2026-10-07 - Arboretum Committee

Summary

Built from the town's posted agenda and minutes (not read in detail) and from the video's YouTube auto-generated captions. Some audio was unclear, so uncertain details are left out.

  • The committee approved its minutes. The treasurer reported a mowing bill and a tree-service treatment paid, about $240 in expenses, plus native plants for the wetlands area to be reimbursed from the Garden Club grant.
  • Friday workdays continue. Student work sessions are planned for November 3 and November 10, covering moving wood chips onto paths, spreading cardboard, digging out invasives and planting ferns on the bank.
  • Swale work was largely completed in two areas south of the main path. The north area was left untouched so equipment can reach it to remove a beech and a black locust and to build the bridge.
  • Town staff showed available stone: wall stone similar to the existing arboretum stone and large granite pieces that could support the bridge. Delivery logistics and cost were unclear.
  • An arborist's itemized estimate for tree work (full removal versus drop-and-leave per tree) includes cleanup but not stump grinding and has no total; its exact scope needs clarification.
  • The committee agreed to proceed with herbicide treatment of Tree-of-Heaven this fall; removal is not included.
  • The committee will bring its existing risk assessment to town staff to ask for town help removing priority hazardous trees, including a dead hemlock and the beech near the bridge, called the most critical.
  • Members informally favored switching to the newer arborist for responsiveness, after checking the town's process. No formal vote was recorded.
  • A tree at the south entrance may be salvageable with treatment; a quote is still needed.
  • No grant notifications have arrived yet; one pending application could be decided by the end of October.
  • Next steps: meet with town staff about tree work, get the treatment quote, and continue the Friday and Saturday work and walk sessions.

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00:30Hello.

00:31>> Hello.

00:33>> It's dark in here.

00:35>> It's dark.

00:36>> It's just dark.

00:38>> It's dark. Let me see if I can do

00:41I don't think so.

00:45It's just moving

00:48that better.

00:53Thank you.

01:01>> Hi, Moren.

01:03>> Hi.

01:16Uh oh. Where's Philippa?

01:21Hey Sarah, we learned from um one of the

01:24arborists who came through there is a

01:26compound you can put on your skin that

01:29includes clay and you it's pre-exposure

01:32to poison ivy preventative.

01:34>> Oh, that's what I need.

01:36>> Yeah, it is what you need. I've looked

01:37for it. I haven't found it around. You

01:39got a fresh batch

01:41>> right here?

01:41>> Just from lawnmowing?

01:43>> Just from living. [laughter]

01:46>> So, what's the name of it? What's the

01:48name?

01:48>> I can't remember, but it's called pre

01:50free preexposure.

01:52>> Pre-exposure.

01:52>> And there's some with um clay and some

01:55without.

01:57>> Right now, I can't remember the name,

01:58which I

01:58>> Yeah, if you get toys, you send it out

02:00to us. That would be great.

02:04>> The one with clay sounds kind of gross,

02:07but it sounds like it would really work.

02:09You know,

02:10>> you're taking a mud bath.

02:12>> Yeah. And it absorbs the oil. We could

02:15just go down to the arboritum and

02:17[laughter]

02:18dig up some.

02:19>> Those pictures were great.

02:21>> Weren't they beautiful?

02:23>> Yeah, we got a lot done. Um but digging

02:28you go down about I don't know four

02:30inches, five inches and it really is all

02:34clay.

02:34>> Oh yeah, you can use that for your uh

02:37your right.

02:38>> It's I mean it's gray, it's clay. I

02:41mean, any school kid could come down and

02:44>> make with it. It's It's a I couldn't

02:47believe it. No wonder the It's a wetland

02:50because nothing gets through.

02:55>> Yep.

02:55>> Has anyone heard from Philippo?

02:59>> Do you want me to call her?

03:02>> Sure, but I'm sure it's some tech issue.

03:04I'm gonna almost guarantee it's a tech

03:05issue.

03:06>> Okay. I'll give her a ring.

03:09>> Okay.

03:19No heat. Took a treat. So, we're just

03:21freezing. Just got to freeze now.

03:23>> You don't do heat till trick or treat?

03:24>> I'm going to try and go to the veteran's

03:26day.

03:27>> Wow. [laughter]

03:30>> I'm going to try.

03:32>> What's the longest you've gone?

03:34>> Usually I like trick-or- treat. Usually

03:37like that day. I'm like, "Thank God."

03:40[laughter] If I get

03:41>> It's probably okay except if you have to

03:42sit and read or study or type or

03:45>> Well, that's what I tell everybody. I'm

03:46like, "I'm not home for 10 hours a day."

03:48So, like, by the time I get home, it's

03:50warmed up a little bit. And then if it

03:53gets really bad, I'll go in my parents

03:55house because they I know they already

03:56have their heat on. I'll go [laughter]

03:58there.

03:59>> They didn't pick up, so, you know, I I

04:02don't know.

04:03>> Okay. I can run the meeting.

04:05>> Okay.

04:06>> All right. So, let me get everything set

04:08up. Let me get a notebook because I'll

04:09do I'll write instead of um

04:13instead of just type.

04:21All right,

04:24hold on. I just had to pull up the

04:26agenda. [snorts]

04:28Is that her text emailing me? Nope.

04:32Good.

04:36Jeez.

04:44All right. I guess I forget how to do

04:47this one, but we'll call the meeting to

04:49our order at 7:03.

04:53Um, the first thing on the agenda is

04:58recognition of guests. Norine, thank you

05:00for coming. And is there a motion about

05:04the minutes I sent out?

05:06No. All good.

05:08>> All right. So, the motion the notes have

05:11been approved.

05:15>> Great. Treasures report.

05:18>> Well, I sent one out um earlier today.

05:22These reflect the mowing um from August.

05:28Or actually, yes, we paid I think we

05:32paid the July bill. Well, it's one

05:35mowing bill

05:36>> and then a treatment from Bartlett.

05:39There's another $240 odd dollars in

05:42expenses.

05:43Uh Sandra bought some plants and so

05:46[snorts] I we've arranged for her to be

05:48reimbursed for those. That will I'm

05:51going to count those as part of the

05:53spending from the garden club grant

05:56since they're going into the wetlands

05:58area

05:59>> and they're all natives.

06:01>> Okay. Chad, did you get you got my email

06:05about the seed mix reimbursement?

06:09>> I'm going to have to go back and look.

06:12>> Okay. I thought I sent that out. If I

06:14>> If you did, I'll find it. I mean, it's

06:17um I'm a week back from a week away. And

06:21while I was away, I tried not to check

06:24anything. So, I'm digging out.

06:27>> The reason I asked is that Sandra

06:29submitted hers after I submitted mine.

06:32So we

06:33>> So yours is further down my list.

06:36>> Yes. Yes.

06:38>> We'll get it. We'll get it.

06:41>> All right. Are there any questions on

06:43the treasurer report?

06:46Okay. Then review of work days. Are is

06:50everyone still meeting on Fridays?

06:53>> We are.

06:54>> Okay.

06:56the academy. I I don't know what's going

06:57on at Pford School, but I know for

06:59November 3rd, which is election day, the

07:02academy kids will be there from 12:30 to

07:061:45.

07:07And I have 17 signed up so far. And then

07:10we'll be there the next Tuesday,

07:12November 10th, from 2:30 to 3:45. And I

07:16have 12 signed up. So, with two smaller

07:19groups, hopefully it'll be easier to

07:20manage. we can have some really um like

07:24dedicated tasks for them. I will say I'm

07:28not trying to judge. I'm looking at the

07:29names of the list of names. I think my

07:35election day crew might be more into the

07:38heavy lifting than my non-election day

07:41crew. I'm not judging them, just looking

07:43at the names and seeing what I see.

07:46That's what that's the assumption I

07:48would make. Well, one of the things we

07:50really need, Sarah, which Zach crew

07:52could do, is the remainder of all of the

07:54chips at the top of the hill.

07:56>> Okay.

07:57>> Um, we want to put them on the paths. We

08:00got cardboard. I think you saw that.

08:02>> Although Tom's going to speak to about

08:04one of the paths we might not be able to

08:05do it, but if they can at least move it

08:07down and get it into a pile down there

08:09and get that whole area cleaned up,

08:12>> that would be a huge a huge deal for

08:15them that day. And that's probably

08:19I don't know how many trips that would

08:21take, but that would be great.

08:23>> Okay.

08:25>> Has um Philippa heard anything about

08:28getting rocks from Chandler?

08:30>> Oh, Tom.

08:31>> Yeah, Tom's gonna bring up today. He's

08:33still on.

08:34>> So,

08:36>> all right.

08:37>> Thanks for staying with the agenda

08:39because he helps me when I take notes.

08:41Um, all right. Grants, any word or

08:44anything? How about Noren? Anything on

08:47the Jew city work?

08:49>> Uh, no, but I think that Philippa is the

08:53contact. Okay. That uh so she would be

08:56the one to hear and I'm assuming she

08:59would let me know right away.

09:01>> I I texted her this morning about it and

09:04she she didn't say she heard anything

09:06yet because I told I I was going through

09:08some notes, Noren.

09:11and um it's at the end of October and

09:14she said we're thumbs you know thumbs up

09:16we're still hoping so

09:17>> well right I haven't gotten a rejection

09:20so I guess no news is good news in that

09:23extent to that extent so what would we

09:26have like three more weeks

09:28>> yeah today's only the 7th so end of

09:30October is three more weeks so yeah

09:35>> hold on just emailed me and said she

09:37can't get on so I'm going to resend her

09:39the link

09:40Give me one second

09:42>> and then all right we'll see if she pops

09:46in if she has anything if she would have

09:48definitely said something I think by

09:49now. Um all right the update the big

09:53update on the swall.

09:56So, um, we we

10:00you guys the group of you that did it

10:04work on Friday and then, uh, Sand and I

10:08went out and did some more work, uh,

10:11that evening and then we went out again

10:14on Sunday and we got a lot of,

10:16>> you know, did continue work that that

10:20uh, you know, Kristen and Sandra and

10:24Philip had done And so we got

10:27>> I have um Philip on the line. She's

10:30trying to get in. Did you just send her

10:32that she

10:34>> here? I'm sending it to her right now.

10:38>> Email or text?

10:40>> Email.

10:40>> Email.

10:43>> I don't have her number. I know I do,

10:45but I don't see it.

10:45>> All right. I'm going to put you on

10:47speaker until you get on so you can hear

10:48what's going on in that. Okay,

10:52everybody's on. Uh, you're on speaker

10:54now and Tom's giving an update from this

10:57morning.

10:58>> Terrific. I want to hear

11:00>> well I was first doing not this morning.

11:05>> Uh, and so we, you know, got quite a bit

11:08done and uh Sarah Houston and you saw

11:11the pictures. Everybody saw those

11:13pictures.

11:14So, um, we got two areas kind of south

11:20of the main path, uh, seated.

11:24And um in thinking about that, we it's

11:26good that we didn't do the the area

11:29north of the path. that's um

11:33between there and the um

11:36>> trimmulas

11:37because we're going to need a path

11:40through there for equipment to go in and

11:42and take the that beach out and that

11:45other the uh black locust and then and

11:49actually to to build the wall or build

11:51the I'm sorry the uh the bridge

11:53>> bridge. Yeah. So, um

11:57I think you know this Friday it would be

11:59good to focus on other areas besides

12:04that one because we we don't want to do

12:07all that work and then have to have it

12:09all ripped up by equipment.

12:12Um so as far as that goes

12:16I did meet with Chandler this morning.

12:19We went over and looked at at rock. And

12:22so, first he showed me some uh rock that

12:26was um I probably should have snuck

12:28pictures, but

12:30this stuff is corey rock. It's it's kind

12:32of light colored granite,

12:36irregular shapes. [clears throat]

12:39And uh that rock there's there's small

12:43stuff and there's big stuff. There's

12:44some nice big rectangular ones that

12:48would probably be perfect for the

12:50[clears throat] support for the the

12:53bridge.

12:54>> And then we also saw and I picked out

12:58one that would be for the bridge stone

13:01and it's about

13:03>> it's right here.

13:04>> My guess Yeah. My guess is it's probably

13:08six or seven feet

13:11square.

13:12>> Wow. So, first the first thing the

13:17channel is going to do is he's a there's

13:19a guy in the town that has a a truck and

13:21he he thinks he's gonna first of all

13:24he's going to grab the full pile of wall

13:27stone material that's very similar to

13:30all the stuff that's

13:32in in the arboritum now that we've been

13:35using and moving around. And um

13:38>> I think I'm on the screen now.

13:39>> You are. You're on. [clears throat]

13:41Okay. I just I hung you up.

13:43>> Thank you. Thank you, Sandra. Um I don't

13:46know how to switch my phone off. Uh

13:48>> just turn it off.

13:50>> Okay. I'm just gonna hang it down. Okay.

13:52I'm here. Great.

13:54>> So,

13:54>> sorry about that, guys.

13:57>> Sorry. Um, so he's he's gonna first of

14:01we're going to have all all that wall

14:04stone over and we can use that as

14:07material that we can use in the in the

14:10stream channel in the swale channel. A

14:13lot of it is um hand work size. So we'll

14:18get I mean we'll see where he can get it

14:21to. You might be able to get to the top

14:22of the hill. I guess that he's taken

14:25stuff that truck down before to the

14:28bottom. So maybe he can get it down

14:30there in close. We'll have to see. Um

14:34he's channel was going to talk to this

14:36guy today, but I haven't heard back from

14:38him about that.

14:39>> We've had trucks coming down. The one

14:41that David brought down with the

14:43generator on it was a pretty heavy

14:44truck.

14:45>> Yeah.

14:45>> And it had all kinds of stuff that we

14:47piled on top and you know, he unloaded

14:50and then got up fine.

14:52>> Yeah.

14:53So there's there's the wall stone and

14:57then

14:59he's going to you know also you know

15:02look at the other stone as well and see

15:03how much how much of that stuff he can

15:05actually get down there. I mean, I if

15:10what would be nice if is if he can get

15:12all that down there pro bono,

15:16then all [clears throat] we have to deal

15:18with is um finding someone to actually

15:23take the larger stuff and assemble the

15:26the bridge.

15:27>> Yeah. Someone like Ben Young.

15:29>> Yeah. So he mentioned Ben Young and he

15:31said Ben Young has got like, you know, a

15:34lot of got good equipment now. He's been

15:37massing. He's got some good stuff. So um

15:41he might use the contact. He's gonna I

15:44think he's going to talk to him first

15:47because you seem to know him pretty

15:49well.

15:50>> Chandler's going to talk to Ben.

15:52>> No, Chandler. Yeah, Chandler.

15:55>> Okay. Chandler. Not Chandler. Sorry.

15:57Chandler.

15:58>> [laughter]

16:01>> products of communication here. Okay,

16:03terrific. Um, do you think that there

16:06will be any chance there will be any

16:08stones that the kids on November the 2nd

16:10that Sarah is bringing?

16:12>> I have no information.

16:13>> I don't know what the date about time

16:16framing just

16:17>> Okay. First of all, finding out if the

16:19diaper

16:20>> Okay,

16:21>> we do have Chris and his crew coming

16:23down on Friday to clear the whole bank.

16:28So, that that's something that we

16:29certainly can have the kids do is dig up

16:31the invasives.

16:33>> And I have ferns and I believe you have

16:36ferns and anybody else has anything that

16:37we can plant to hold the soil.

16:40>> Yeah, I've had a lot of um of Solomon

16:44seal that would do well there. Right,

16:46>> Philippa. It's November 3rd. It's

16:48election day.

16:49>> Okay. November 3rd, not the second.

16:50Sorry.

16:51>> And then also November 10th. It's the

16:53backtoback Tuesdays.

16:54>> Oh, the 10th as well. I didn't know

16:56about that.

16:57>> Yeah, November because I divided them

16:58up. So, November 13th has 17 and

17:01November 10th has 12.

17:03>> And Sarah, are they both the same times,

17:0512:30?

17:06>> November 3rd is 12:30, 1:45 because we

17:08don't we have a virtual day or

17:10asynchronous day or something that day.

17:12And November 10th is right after school,

17:142:30, 3:45.

17:16>> Okay.

17:18>> Okay. I have that time now.

17:21>> So, I'm sorry. On the ferns, when did

17:23you want those brought in? This Friday

17:25or another day?

17:28>> No, the ferns we would want for for

17:30these work days when the kids are

17:31coming.

17:32>> I see. Okay. All right.

17:36>> Yeah. You know, sorry to come in so

17:37late. Um, how far are we with the

17:39agenda? Did we get through all the stuff

17:41that we needed to do earlier, Sarah?

17:42>> Yep. We we're on we're just on the

17:44update.

17:48>> Okay. Thank you so much, Tom, for going

17:50out there this morning and meeting with

17:51him finally.

17:52>> So, probably the the thing that that is

17:55most important is, you know, to try to

17:57get those trees down. And I don't know

18:00who's tasked with

18:02advancing that. I mean, we've got an

18:05estimate now.

18:07Um,

18:10>> yeah,

18:11>> we do. Um, my understanding from the

18:14estimate, and I just want to clarify

18:17that with people, is that it would cost

18:20us $1,400

18:23for full removal of the marked trees

18:28with no

18:30>> trees.

18:31>> I'm sorry.

18:32>> All the trees that we want done. This is

18:34that's number that's the top of this

18:38particular sheet.

18:40>> Yeah.

18:40>> That I sent you on.

18:43Um

18:45and it says full removal of marked

18:49trees. Everything will be chipped or

18:51removed with a log truck. Cleanup

18:54included, but no stump grinding. The

18:57price includes removing two Tree of

19:00Heaven trees. Am I right about that?

19:04That for this

19:05>> I

19:05>> I didn't read it that way. That's

19:08>> Yeah, I thought they were separately

19:10lined items,

19:12but we'll have to look at it again.

19:14>> Well, it says full removal is the first

19:17item. The second one says drop and

19:20leave.

19:20>> Yeah, that's

19:23what I was hearing. So, so the full

19:26removal is they drop they can drop them.

19:32How much was the drop in leave once?

19:34>> Same price. 1,400.

19:37>> Well, but you So each one So you look

19:40down below there's a there's pictures of

19:42the trees and each picture has a number.

19:46So it's number one full removal, two

19:49dropping leave, three full removal, four

19:51dropping leave. So, it's like it's like

19:54a a

19:57menu and you and then number six is trim

20:00trees, seven is other. So, each one of

20:03those things you've got number one is

20:05$1,400.

20:07Number two is is $1,400.

20:11Number three is $875. I mean, they're

20:13all menu items. You just pick the ones

20:16you want. You know,

20:18>> why would we not want full removal?

20:22price.

20:23>> It's It's more expensive. So, it's

20:25$1,400 for the That's what how I read

20:28it. For the number one tree, which was

20:30number one.

20:31>> Number one is the

20:35Well, number one is tree of heaven. I'm

20:39sorry. No. No. Why?

20:42There's not There isn't a picture for

20:44number one. Number one is

20:46>> of heaven.

20:53It doesn't say that's that's

20:55>> I I find this such confusing and maybe

20:57that's just me

21:03>> actually. Excuse me. The tree of heaven

21:06is is listed as number two. P the number

21:10there's a different the number is in the

21:12middle of the photo. So the number the

21:15item number one is actually tree of

21:17heaven is number two. It's confusing.

21:21So, you got to look at the number in the

21:23photo. It's a yellow number there. So,

21:27basically, if we do all of these,

21:30it's

21:32there's I don't know if you did a total

21:34at the bottom.

21:35>> Maybe that's what she's saying.

21:37>> They don't have it. There's no total.

21:40That's what confuses me.

21:41>> Well, that's because

21:44you're going to pick the ones you want.

21:47John, have you looked at this?

21:49>> Not not in a while. Um, I can certainly

21:52do that. The issue is that's

21:55um a big chunk of change to do all those

21:59things. And if some of them were marked

22:03as a safety concern, we should negotiate

22:06with the town to get the town to do

22:08those. That was my thought was because

22:10he's done the number one risk the level

22:12one risk assessment which talks about

22:15those trees

22:16>> and and I think that the the um the

22:20beach down that we have to take out down

22:22the wetlands and then um the hemlock

22:25which is kind of in the path to get the

22:27pucks down. Those were all on the risk

22:30level. I think the locust was

22:34um not as big a concern, but since

22:38you're taking it down, they're going to

22:40anyway. So, I think those all might be

22:42tree towns.

22:44>> Might be what? Oh, hazards.

22:47>> Yeah. ones that the we should have the

22:49the town take taped out

22:53>> because those are the three that we need

22:56in order to get the um rocks and the

23:00bridge done.

23:02>> Right. And now that Chandler has sort of

23:05got involved with the rocks, I will make

23:09an appointment to take this stuff in

23:10front of him and give him the risk

23:13assessment

23:15and see what we can negotiate with the

23:18town as far as sharing the cost. My

23:21concern is that we want to have it done

23:23PDQ so that we can do the rest of the

23:25stuff with the rocks.

23:27>> And I know the town crew,

23:29>> you know, have all kinds of other

23:30priorities. That's what they've told us

23:32is they have all sorts of other

23:33priorities and we're not high on that

23:34list of priorities.

23:36>> Which means we're never going to get it

23:37done.

23:38>> No, it doesn't, Sandra. [laughter]

23:43We're going to get that $5,000 grant

23:45that Noren says is already is coming on

23:48the way, right? [laughter]

23:51>> I haven't heard anything.

23:53>> Ah, that's so exciting. Sandra told me

23:56about that. I'm so excited, too. We're

23:57all just holding our breath here, hoping

23:59it comes through. Right. Well, I think

24:01you will get the notification because um

24:06>> on it

24:07>> I think that you're the contact though

24:09because they asked for like the official

24:11person. So anyway,

24:14>> so you'll probably hear so watch your

24:16emails.

24:17>> Oh, I will watch my emails like a hawk.

24:21That will be so exciting. So, in terms

24:23of leaving the trees, I see where we

24:27would remove the hemlock and the beach,

24:31uh, because they have some sort of

24:34disease, right? Or potentially would.

24:37And also, the tree of heaven isn't

24:40native, but the locust is is that

24:43diseased as well, because that could

24:45just be left, couldn't it, in an

24:47appropriate place?

24:48>> I think so, Norin. That one's not as

24:52important. It's the really number seven,

24:55the beach and and even the hemlock. I

24:58mean, the truck can probably get around

25:00that no problem, but it's like so if as

25:04far as construction goes, the thing that

25:07is the most important is get that one

25:08beach.

25:09>> But isn't that hemlock um on Isn't the

25:13hemlock though

25:15a risk a high risk though?

25:17>> Yeah. Well, not not not such a high risk

25:21because it's dead. So, apparently a

25:24higher risk is is trees that have leaves

25:26that are more likely, you know, the

25:29hemlock the wind can just blow through

25:31because it doesn't have any leaves on

25:33it,

25:33>> right?

25:34>> Yeah. But can it in in a strong enough

25:37wind, won't it like come down or not?

25:41I would think it would, but that's what

25:44I was told was that that

25:45>> I mean that seems like kind of a risk if

25:47you're having people gu you don't want a

25:49free falling on them.

25:51>> Well, what so we we don't have to do the

25:54risk assessment, right? We already have

25:56some been done. So

25:57>> that's we don't need to debate how what

25:59risky is,

26:00>> right?

26:01>> Just it's like we have the risk

26:03assessment

26:04>> the town you can show it to the town.

26:07I'm gonna take it to the town and me and

26:09John can look at it and decide what

26:10they're going to do about it.

26:11Absolutely.

26:12>> Yeah. I just

26:14>> the right approach to get them as

26:17>> quickly on board and if they when you

26:22talk to them if there's

26:25a particular tree if they can only do so

26:27much right off the bat say we need that

26:30one beach down.

26:34We can wait a little bit.

26:36>> Right. My understanding I guess from the

26:38um quote from Arbor, the Arbor active

26:42people was that they would do the

26:44poisoning of the um the tree of heaven

26:48for $28183.

26:52That would not include taking it down,

26:54but it would include getting the poison

26:57into it this this fall.

27:00Am I wrong about that or am I right?

27:02>> Well, number one says full removal. So I

27:05think it's it's a it

27:06>> it's on a separate sheet. It's on this

27:08sheet here

27:12>> which talks about

27:14um apply herbicide to three large tree

27:19of heaven and several small sprouts at

27:24the Palmer arboratum to prevent

27:26respouting after removal.

27:31So, does that mean that they could

27:33poison them now and we wouldn't have to

27:35take the tree down yet?

27:36>> We We shouldn't have to take the tree

27:38down till next spring anymore,

27:40>> right?

27:41>> If they poison I did find another tree

27:43of heaven down by the um shed.

27:47>> Well, it's a little weird.

27:49>> Yeah, but they'll poison that one, too.

27:50>> Yeah.

27:52>> But my thinking is if that if if that's

27:54all they're going to charge to poison

27:56this tree of heaven, we should have them

27:58do it.

27:58>> Do it. Yeah. Well, not like you said

28:01that now is the time to do it. It's the

28:03right told it's the right time to do it.

28:05So, at least get it poisoned,

28:07>> right? So, everybody agrees on that that

28:08we should go if that's what if that's

28:10what it is, we should go ahead and do

28:11it. Okay.

28:12>> Um bringing down

28:14>> the ashes, the beach and the hickory. I

28:18need to go and talk to the town and take

28:20in the risk assessment and say,

28:24"Will you work with us?"

28:25>> Yes.

28:26>> Right. One one point of clarification

28:28though. I'm sorry.

28:30>> I had a point of clarification. We have

28:32we have a proposal for taking down

28:36certain trees. If the town gets

28:38involved, are they going to simply pay

28:42for this guy to remove it or are they

28:45going to want are they going to have

28:47someone else do it or the town or the

28:50town crew doing it?

28:52>> I think that's that that would have to

28:54be sort of part of the discussion, Tom.

28:57you know this is this is what we we've

28:59got from this these guys as what it

29:03would cost

29:04>> right

29:04>> you can you do it for less fast

29:08you know because they can certainly if

29:11they can find a a cheaper group to do

29:13the same business

29:15>> within the timeline I'm happy with that

29:17as long as long as it gets done

29:19>> good well as long as that's that's part

29:21of discussion that's all I

29:22>> right that's I think it should be part

29:24of the discussion that's perfect

29:25>> um my other thought is do we want to

29:28replace Bartlett with this

29:32group? This arborist.

29:36>> I vote yes.

29:37>> I vote yes.

29:37>> I vote yes.

29:40[clears throat]

29:41>> Sarah, what do you think?

29:42>> No. I I think so, too. Yeah.

29:45>> Oh, yes. John,

29:48>> when do we think they're um

29:54>> Well, Bartlett hadn't been very

29:55responsive, so they wouldn't be hard to

29:57be more responsive.

29:58>> The Bartlett representative seemed so

30:02poorly informed and the Arbor active guy

30:06seemed so aware of our needs, our cost

30:09restraints. He's been to the arboritum.

30:12He seemed much smarter.

30:15He brings he brings uh students there

30:18and they he uses it at the arburetum as

30:22a training ground for his his students

30:26and

30:26>> so he knows it intimately.

30:27>> He knows it very well. Um that to me

30:31said a lot. The other thing that said a

30:34lot is that he said he could have his

30:36students take on like the Carolina

30:38Silver Bell which is kind of fumbling

30:41and and floundering and they would take

30:43it on as a proono. So they're willing to

30:46work with us on a few things. He's

30:49local. That's why I say yes. I mean I

30:53liked I liked his demeanor and how he

30:56talked about the Arborita

31:00and I thought he was very knowledgeable.

31:03I would agree. Um I'm not sure if we

31:07have to check this through Chandler and

31:09I will run it by Chandler when I have

31:10the meeting because you know I think you

31:13mean the [clears throat] town in a sense

31:14hires Bartlett because we are a town

31:17park.

31:19>> I have sure that we have the right to

31:22>> um terminate Bartlett and and try these

31:25people who are and I agree. I loved his

31:27enthusiasm.

31:28>> Well, I don't think we're terminating

31:29Bartlett. I think we're I think we're

31:31doing a price assessment that this makes

31:33more sense for us and and I think

31:35Barllet's not willing to work with us.

31:37Like we

31:39think if you go to the town and like

31:41look we need we know we need help. We

31:42made a presentation. We found this

31:44person who's certified who has all the

31:46credentials who's willing to work with

31:48us who's willing to do some stuff pro

31:50bono. It's not that we're firing Barllet

31:52just so we have a bar. It's not a

31:55commentary on whether or not Barlet's

31:56good for us. It's a commentary that we

31:57just can't afford them.

31:58>> Right. But I mean at some point we have

32:00to let Barta know that because we have a

32:01contract with Bartlett for a period of

32:03time and we've had them for years. So I

32:05think it's polite to let them know that

32:06we're not going to be renewing the

32:08contract.

32:10>> Well, the other thing I like about Arbor

32:12Active too, uh, Philippa is that they're

32:15not willing just they're not willing

32:17just to scrap all the trees and kill,

32:19you know, they're gone. They're going to

32:21die. What I liked about these guys is

32:24well, yeah, I think, you know, um, we

32:27can we can certainly take down some of

32:30the beach. It's definitely going to die,

32:32but it doesn't have to come down all

32:34cadet, you know, type of approach. And I

32:37kind of like that willingness to work

32:40with us a little bit more rather than,

32:43you know, $20,000, it's got to come out

32:46type of

32:48um, I like that about them. A little

32:50more

32:52um kind of easy on

32:55>> on it.

32:56>> Okay, Kristen, do you have any thoughts?

33:00>> You liked it. Okay. Okay. Let me discuss

33:03that also with Chandra. That would be

33:04our cha just to make sure that we don't

33:06have to do anything through the town in

33:08order to make those switches. And I like

33:10the way you expressed it, Sarah.

33:12>> So that Yeah. I mean, just makes sense.

33:14>> Yep.

33:14>> Trying to save money for the town.

33:17>> Sarah

33:19are indeed. Santa communicated to me

33:22that while you guys were out there, I'm

33:23not sure who heard it, how many people

33:25heard it, but um she said that the the U

33:29that's at the

33:31south entrance, that one that looks

33:34completely dead. She said that he told

33:38her or you guys that it's not it's

33:42salvageable, but

33:43>> yes, he did.

33:44>> So, that didn't seem to get addressed in

33:46either of these uh letters.

33:50And that seems like that's important. If

33:53if if it's salvageable, then something

33:55needs to be done sooner,

33:58>> right?

33:59>> So, I don't know if we just need to ask

34:00them for an additional quote

34:03or what.

34:07>> Yeah, I'm not sure.

34:10But he did say he did say that it it

34:12needed I mean there was a chemical that

34:14it was that it ought to be being fed

34:16with and that it should be sal you know

34:18salvageable. Who knows? I mean we still

34:22are looking for that border for the town

34:25to put down to get the water running

34:27into the rain garden

34:29um and to protect those trees that just

34:31seem to get whatever the runoff is. It

34:34makes them very unhappy.

34:37And they and they this group said that

34:39they would do all kinds of testing to

34:41see what was in the soil, what was

34:42coming down, what was happening. So they

34:44have the ability to do the things that

34:47Bartlett

34:49has said they did or could do or would

34:52do, but haven't come up with any

34:56solutions for any testing that they said

34:59they had done,

35:01which is somewhat frustrating.

35:02>> Philippa, did Bartlett not give you an

35:04analysis of their testing? No,

35:08>> I think you paid for it.

35:12>> No, I didn't get any analysis from them

35:16and it and I the response that I got

35:18from from the young man was sort of

35:20vague about what what it was. Um,

35:24yeah.

35:26So, I don't

35:29Okay, so I need to go make an

35:31appointment with Chandler as soon as I

35:32can. Um, any other thoughts about this?

35:37On Friday, we have Chris and his crew

35:39coming to work on the bank. We have I've

35:44dumped a load of cardboard there today

35:46by the wood chips, and I can probably

35:48pick up more cardboard tomorrow because

35:50I'll be down in that area. Um, and I'm

35:54doing an LGB walk or I've offered an LGB

35:57walk at 10:00 on Friday and another one

36:00on 10:00 on Saturday. Um, anybody who

36:03wants to come is welcome, but I'll be

36:04down there working from 9 to 11 and

36:08maybe walk from 10 to 11 if people come.

36:11But you

36:12>> I'll come both days and work. Um, and if

36:15you need me for walking, I'll be walk

36:17I'll walk, but I'll be there. I'll I'll

36:20come and at least work.

36:22>> Okay.

36:23>> And what do you want the the cardboard

36:25to do? Where does it need to go? We have

36:27to take it all the way the rest of that

36:30uh lower end. Um Kristen of the slope we

36:33and the other side by the beam.

36:35>> Okay.

36:35>> We have to we have to clear all of that

36:37and some of that some of the kids uh

36:40that Sarah's going to bring help dig out

36:43some of the stuff that's in there too.

36:44You know, maybe I'll bring my um mark

36:48and my tape and if we see a lot of stuff

36:50we can't dig out or can't pull out, we

36:53can mark it and they can leave it for

36:55them to do.

36:57And and you guys can also, you know, we

36:59we can all monitor what Chris and his

37:01guys are up to so that we make sure that

37:03they are, you know, getting it down

37:05where we want them to get it down.

37:07>> Chris, are you are you gonna be there on

37:09Friday?

37:10>> I'm What's that?

37:12>> Is Kristen, are you gonna be there on

37:14Friday?

37:19>> You're still on mute.

37:20>> Still on mute. Sorry. Yes, I plan to be

37:22there.

37:24>> Terrific.

37:25>> What time is the walk? at 11

37:27or 10.

37:29>> What's that?

37:30>> What time is the walks at? 11 or 10?

37:31>> 10 o'clock. 10 o'clock. 10 to 11.

37:34>> 10 to 11 on Friday, 10 to 11 on

37:37Saturday. Um I offered both times

37:40because sometimes people, you know, work

37:42during the week and I would like to come

37:43on a weekend. So I I will be there to to

37:45walk both those two times. Anybody wants

37:48to come walk with me, terrific. Um,

37:50otherwise, you know, I can I can do it

37:52because sometimes it's only like one

37:54person or no people or three people or

37:57who knows how many.

37:59>> We'll uh we'll rake out the black walnut

38:02so nobody kills himself. It's like a

38:04little uh ball bearing thing down there.

38:07>> Oh, you don't have to rake the black

38:09walnut.

38:09>> Oh man, it's like walnuts and bake with

38:12them and make goodies out of them.

38:18I do have to say that David Petroski was

38:20amazing last week. Yeah.

38:22>> He came down on Friday with in his

38:25pickup truck with a generator and a

38:28roatiller

38:30>> and he worked for two hours roatilling

38:33that whole area. He helped plant trees.

38:36He was just just incredible.

38:40Really a very a wonderful volunteer for

38:44our our area.

38:46Right.

38:47>> I agree.

38:48>> Yeah, he was terrific.

38:50>> Very energetic.

38:52>> And maybe we'll have more volunteers

38:53this Friday. Who knows?

38:56>> You never know. [laughter]

38:58They can be queuing up, begging us for

39:00work.

39:02Okay. Um,

39:04>> that's the agenda. That's it. We did

39:06everything.

39:09>> Are you sure?

39:10>> 100%.

39:11>> Anybody else? Any other issues?

39:16Norin, are you back in Wood?

39:18>> Just I guess again about the U is that

39:22need to require a followup to uh talk to

39:25him

39:26actually arbor.

39:29>> Um so the the treatment of the U to

39:33switch um arborist is that what you're

39:35saying Tom?

39:36>> Well he's if if he's suggesting

39:39something that he can save it

39:40>> right I I I'll give him a talk. I'll

39:43give him a call.

39:44>> Great. Thank you for reminding me.

39:45Norin, are you in Woodstock now?

39:47>> Uh, for this month I am. Uh, so I will I

39:51do plan to be there on Friday. This

39:53Friday.

39:54>> Oh, I I [laughter] was I was trying to

39:57harass you to be there, but that would

39:58be wonderful. That would be great. And I

40:01want to say that um Kristen and Sandra

40:05and I all have taken some of the peony

40:07tree seeds and we're trying to get them

40:10to sprout. So, if you want any pe

40:12anybody want peony tree seeds, they are

40:15ripe and ready to go. And

40:17>> mine are just still sitting in the bowl

40:19that I put them in when I came home. So,

40:21I I need a another lesson uh this Friday

40:25on what I do with them.

40:26>> Where do you plant them? Outside?

40:29>> No, you put them you put them in they

40:31have to be in in warm a warm temperature

40:34for a couple of months. And you say

40:36>> months,

40:37>> scrub them and soak them. And then you

40:40can put them in a plastic bag with

40:41planting stuff or you can put them in a

40:44a pot or something and you keep them

40:46warm for two months and then you stick

40:48them out in the garage for two months.

40:50>> And that I'm out because I'm no heat

40:52till trick-or- treat so they'll die in 5

40:54seconds in this house.

40:55>> I have no idea [laughter] what happened.

40:57I'm hoping that Kristen figures it out

40:59because she is our big seed planter.

41:01>> So Kristen, um I need instructions

41:04because that would sounds even for me

41:07daunting.

41:08>> [laughter]

41:09>> You can do it.

41:12>> Put them in a baggie for now with a wet

41:14paper towel and

41:16>> throw it on top of the refrigerator.

41:17>> Yeah.

41:18>> For two or three months. Then they need

41:20to be cold stratified.

41:23>> Okay.

41:23>> Even syrup.

41:26>> Okay. Um Sandre, did you put in the

41:29price of the the cost of the trees to

41:31John?

41:32>> I did.

41:33>> Okay.

41:33>> Yep. And put in for the seed. So,

41:37>> and the seeds too, Tom. Okay, great.

41:39Just want to make sure we're we're

41:40covering our expenses here.

41:42>> Tom, I see I found your email. There's

41:45no attachment. All All there are is a

41:48funny string of numbers and letters. The

41:50attachment didn't come.

41:51>> I'll try again.

41:54>> Okay.

41:56>> Oh, I love to hear that. I'm not the

41:57only person who's an absolute

41:59>> I did say when you weren't here, I'm

42:01like, it's a tech issue. [laughter]

42:04>> It's definitely a tech issue.

42:06You should start trying to get on at

42:07like 6:30.

42:08>> Yeah.

42:10>> Okay. Um I would entertain a motion to

42:12adjurnn.

42:13>> So moved.

42:15>> I'll see you on Friday.

42:18>> Good night everybody. I'll see you

42:20possible on Friday. And Sarah, I owe you

42:22$10, I think, for your Teague calendar.

42:24>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna

42:26try and get there on Saturday, but I'll

42:27be at the boys soccer game on Saturday,

42:29too.

42:30>> Okay.

42:31>> All right. Bye. Good night, everybody.

42:34Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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