2026-10-07 - Arboretum Committee
Summary
Built from the town's posted agenda and minutes (not read in detail) and from the video's YouTube auto-generated captions. Some audio was unclear, so uncertain details are left out.
- The committee approved its minutes. The treasurer reported a mowing bill and a tree-service treatment paid, about $240 in expenses, plus native plants for the wetlands area to be reimbursed from the Garden Club grant.
- Friday workdays continue. Student work sessions are planned for November 3 and November 10, covering moving wood chips onto paths, spreading cardboard, digging out invasives and planting ferns on the bank.
- Swale work was largely completed in two areas south of the main path. The north area was left untouched so equipment can reach it to remove a beech and a black locust and to build the bridge.
- Town staff showed available stone: wall stone similar to the existing arboretum stone and large granite pieces that could support the bridge. Delivery logistics and cost were unclear.
- An arborist's itemized estimate for tree work (full removal versus drop-and-leave per tree) includes cleanup but not stump grinding and has no total; its exact scope needs clarification.
- The committee agreed to proceed with herbicide treatment of Tree-of-Heaven this fall; removal is not included.
- The committee will bring its existing risk assessment to town staff to ask for town help removing priority hazardous trees, including a dead hemlock and the beech near the bridge, called the most critical.
- Members informally favored switching to the newer arborist for responsiveness, after checking the town's process. No formal vote was recorded.
- A tree at the south entrance may be salvageable with treatment; a quote is still needed.
- No grant notifications have arrived yet; one pending application could be decided by the end of October.
- Next steps: meet with town staff about tree work, get the treatment quote, and continue the Friday and Saturday work and walk sessions.
Agenda
Agenda PDF posted; see Sources.
Sources
- Agenda: https://www.woodstockct.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Agenda/_10072026-564
- Minutes: https://www.woodstockct.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Minutes/_10072026-564
- Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOsp_AQFHIA (Town of Woodstock YouTube channel, 42:36)
- Agenda Center: https://www.woodstockct.gov/agendacenter
Video
Transcript
*These are auto-generated captions; names and numbers may be misheard.
Transcript
00:30Hello.
00:31>> Hello.
00:33>> It's dark in here.
00:35>> It's dark.
00:36>> It's just dark.
00:38>> It's dark. Let me see if I can do
00:41I don't think so.
00:45It's just moving
00:48that better.
00:53Thank you.
01:01>> Hi, Moren.
01:03>> Hi.
01:16Uh oh. Where's Philippa?
01:21Hey Sarah, we learned from um one of the
01:24arborists who came through there is a
01:26compound you can put on your skin that
01:29includes clay and you it's pre-exposure
01:32to poison ivy preventative.
01:34>> Oh, that's what I need.
01:36>> Yeah, it is what you need. I've looked
01:37for it. I haven't found it around. You
01:39got a fresh batch
01:41>> right here?
01:41>> Just from lawnmowing?
01:43>> Just from living. [laughter]
01:46>> So, what's the name of it? What's the
01:48name?
01:48>> I can't remember, but it's called pre
01:50free preexposure.
01:52>> Pre-exposure.
01:52>> And there's some with um clay and some
01:55without.
01:57>> Right now, I can't remember the name,
01:58which I
01:58>> Yeah, if you get toys, you send it out
02:00to us. That would be great.
02:04>> The one with clay sounds kind of gross,
02:07but it sounds like it would really work.
02:09You know,
02:10>> you're taking a mud bath.
02:12>> Yeah. And it absorbs the oil. We could
02:15just go down to the arboritum and
02:17[laughter]
02:18dig up some.
02:19>> Those pictures were great.
02:21>> Weren't they beautiful?
02:23>> Yeah, we got a lot done. Um but digging
02:28you go down about I don't know four
02:30inches, five inches and it really is all
02:34clay.
02:34>> Oh yeah, you can use that for your uh
02:37your right.
02:38>> It's I mean it's gray, it's clay. I
02:41mean, any school kid could come down and
02:44>> make with it. It's It's a I couldn't
02:47believe it. No wonder the It's a wetland
02:50because nothing gets through.
02:55>> Yep.
02:55>> Has anyone heard from Philippo?
02:59>> Do you want me to call her?
03:02>> Sure, but I'm sure it's some tech issue.
03:04I'm gonna almost guarantee it's a tech
03:05issue.
03:06>> Okay. I'll give her a ring.
03:09>> Okay.
03:19No heat. Took a treat. So, we're just
03:21freezing. Just got to freeze now.
03:23>> You don't do heat till trick or treat?
03:24>> I'm going to try and go to the veteran's
03:26day.
03:27>> Wow. [laughter]
03:30>> I'm going to try.
03:32>> What's the longest you've gone?
03:34>> Usually I like trick-or- treat. Usually
03:37like that day. I'm like, "Thank God."
03:40[laughter] If I get
03:41>> It's probably okay except if you have to
03:42sit and read or study or type or
03:45>> Well, that's what I tell everybody. I'm
03:46like, "I'm not home for 10 hours a day."
03:48So, like, by the time I get home, it's
03:50warmed up a little bit. And then if it
03:53gets really bad, I'll go in my parents
03:55house because they I know they already
03:56have their heat on. I'll go [laughter]
03:58there.
03:59>> They didn't pick up, so, you know, I I
04:02don't know.
04:03>> Okay. I can run the meeting.
04:05>> Okay.
04:06>> All right. So, let me get everything set
04:08up. Let me get a notebook because I'll
04:09do I'll write instead of um
04:13instead of just type.
04:21All right,
04:24hold on. I just had to pull up the
04:26agenda. [snorts]
04:28Is that her text emailing me? Nope.
04:32Good.
04:36Jeez.
04:44All right. I guess I forget how to do
04:47this one, but we'll call the meeting to
04:49our order at 7:03.
04:53Um, the first thing on the agenda is
04:58recognition of guests. Norine, thank you
05:00for coming. And is there a motion about
05:04the minutes I sent out?
05:06No. All good.
05:08>> All right. So, the motion the notes have
05:11been approved.
05:15>> Great. Treasures report.
05:18>> Well, I sent one out um earlier today.
05:22These reflect the mowing um from August.
05:28Or actually, yes, we paid I think we
05:32paid the July bill. Well, it's one
05:35mowing bill
05:36>> and then a treatment from Bartlett.
05:39There's another $240 odd dollars in
05:42expenses.
05:43Uh Sandra bought some plants and so
05:46[snorts] I we've arranged for her to be
05:48reimbursed for those. That will I'm
05:51going to count those as part of the
05:53spending from the garden club grant
05:56since they're going into the wetlands
05:58area
05:59>> and they're all natives.
06:01>> Okay. Chad, did you get you got my email
06:05about the seed mix reimbursement?
06:09>> I'm going to have to go back and look.
06:12>> Okay. I thought I sent that out. If I
06:14>> If you did, I'll find it. I mean, it's
06:17um I'm a week back from a week away. And
06:21while I was away, I tried not to check
06:24anything. So, I'm digging out.
06:27>> The reason I asked is that Sandra
06:29submitted hers after I submitted mine.
06:32So we
06:33>> So yours is further down my list.
06:36>> Yes. Yes.
06:38>> We'll get it. We'll get it.
06:41>> All right. Are there any questions on
06:43the treasurer report?
06:46Okay. Then review of work days. Are is
06:50everyone still meeting on Fridays?
06:53>> We are.
06:54>> Okay.
06:56the academy. I I don't know what's going
06:57on at Pford School, but I know for
06:59November 3rd, which is election day, the
07:02academy kids will be there from 12:30 to
07:061:45.
07:07And I have 17 signed up so far. And then
07:10we'll be there the next Tuesday,
07:12November 10th, from 2:30 to 3:45. And I
07:16have 12 signed up. So, with two smaller
07:19groups, hopefully it'll be easier to
07:20manage. we can have some really um like
07:24dedicated tasks for them. I will say I'm
07:28not trying to judge. I'm looking at the
07:29names of the list of names. I think my
07:35election day crew might be more into the
07:38heavy lifting than my non-election day
07:41crew. I'm not judging them, just looking
07:43at the names and seeing what I see.
07:46That's what that's the assumption I
07:48would make. Well, one of the things we
07:50really need, Sarah, which Zach crew
07:52could do, is the remainder of all of the
07:54chips at the top of the hill.
07:56>> Okay.
07:57>> Um, we want to put them on the paths. We
08:00got cardboard. I think you saw that.
08:02>> Although Tom's going to speak to about
08:04one of the paths we might not be able to
08:05do it, but if they can at least move it
08:07down and get it into a pile down there
08:09and get that whole area cleaned up,
08:12>> that would be a huge a huge deal for
08:15them that day. And that's probably
08:19I don't know how many trips that would
08:21take, but that would be great.
08:23>> Okay.
08:25>> Has um Philippa heard anything about
08:28getting rocks from Chandler?
08:30>> Oh, Tom.
08:31>> Yeah, Tom's gonna bring up today. He's
08:33still on.
08:34>> So,
08:36>> all right.
08:37>> Thanks for staying with the agenda
08:39because he helps me when I take notes.
08:41Um, all right. Grants, any word or
08:44anything? How about Noren? Anything on
08:47the Jew city work?
08:49>> Uh, no, but I think that Philippa is the
08:53contact. Okay. That uh so she would be
08:56the one to hear and I'm assuming she
08:59would let me know right away.
09:01>> I I texted her this morning about it and
09:04she she didn't say she heard anything
09:06yet because I told I I was going through
09:08some notes, Noren.
09:11and um it's at the end of October and
09:14she said we're thumbs you know thumbs up
09:16we're still hoping so
09:17>> well right I haven't gotten a rejection
09:20so I guess no news is good news in that
09:23extent to that extent so what would we
09:26have like three more weeks
09:28>> yeah today's only the 7th so end of
09:30October is three more weeks so yeah
09:35>> hold on just emailed me and said she
09:37can't get on so I'm going to resend her
09:39the link
09:40Give me one second
09:42>> and then all right we'll see if she pops
09:46in if she has anything if she would have
09:48definitely said something I think by
09:49now. Um all right the update the big
09:53update on the swall.
09:56So, um, we we
10:00you guys the group of you that did it
10:04work on Friday and then, uh, Sand and I
10:08went out and did some more work, uh,
10:11that evening and then we went out again
10:14on Sunday and we got a lot of,
10:16>> you know, did continue work that that
10:20uh, you know, Kristen and Sandra and
10:24Philip had done And so we got
10:27>> I have um Philip on the line. She's
10:30trying to get in. Did you just send her
10:32that she
10:34>> here? I'm sending it to her right now.
10:38>> Email or text?
10:40>> Email.
10:40>> Email.
10:43>> I don't have her number. I know I do,
10:45but I don't see it.
10:45>> All right. I'm going to put you on
10:47speaker until you get on so you can hear
10:48what's going on in that. Okay,
10:52everybody's on. Uh, you're on speaker
10:54now and Tom's giving an update from this
10:57morning.
10:58>> Terrific. I want to hear
11:00>> well I was first doing not this morning.
11:05>> Uh, and so we, you know, got quite a bit
11:08done and uh Sarah Houston and you saw
11:11the pictures. Everybody saw those
11:13pictures.
11:14So, um, we got two areas kind of south
11:20of the main path, uh, seated.
11:24And um in thinking about that, we it's
11:26good that we didn't do the the area
11:29north of the path. that's um
11:33between there and the um
11:36>> trimmulas
11:37because we're going to need a path
11:40through there for equipment to go in and
11:42and take the that beach out and that
11:45other the uh black locust and then and
11:49actually to to build the wall or build
11:51the I'm sorry the uh the bridge
11:53>> bridge. Yeah. So, um
11:57I think you know this Friday it would be
11:59good to focus on other areas besides
12:04that one because we we don't want to do
12:07all that work and then have to have it
12:09all ripped up by equipment.
12:12Um so as far as that goes
12:16I did meet with Chandler this morning.
12:19We went over and looked at at rock. And
12:22so, first he showed me some uh rock that
12:26was um I probably should have snuck
12:28pictures, but
12:30this stuff is corey rock. It's it's kind
12:32of light colored granite,
12:36irregular shapes. [clears throat]
12:39And uh that rock there's there's small
12:43stuff and there's big stuff. There's
12:44some nice big rectangular ones that
12:48would probably be perfect for the
12:50[clears throat] support for the the
12:53bridge.
12:54>> And then we also saw and I picked out
12:58one that would be for the bridge stone
13:01and it's about
13:03>> it's right here.
13:04>> My guess Yeah. My guess is it's probably
13:08six or seven feet
13:11square.
13:12>> Wow. So, first the first thing the
13:17channel is going to do is he's a there's
13:19a guy in the town that has a a truck and
13:21he he thinks he's gonna first of all
13:24he's going to grab the full pile of wall
13:27stone material that's very similar to
13:30all the stuff that's
13:32in in the arboritum now that we've been
13:35using and moving around. And um
13:38>> I think I'm on the screen now.
13:39>> You are. You're on. [clears throat]
13:41Okay. I just I hung you up.
13:43>> Thank you. Thank you, Sandra. Um I don't
13:46know how to switch my phone off. Uh
13:48>> just turn it off.
13:50>> Okay. I'm just gonna hang it down. Okay.
13:52I'm here. Great.
13:54>> So,
13:54>> sorry about that, guys.
13:57>> Sorry. Um, so he's he's gonna first of
14:01we're going to have all all that wall
14:04stone over and we can use that as
14:07material that we can use in the in the
14:10stream channel in the swale channel. A
14:13lot of it is um hand work size. So we'll
14:18get I mean we'll see where he can get it
14:21to. You might be able to get to the top
14:22of the hill. I guess that he's taken
14:25stuff that truck down before to the
14:28bottom. So maybe he can get it down
14:30there in close. We'll have to see. Um
14:34he's channel was going to talk to this
14:36guy today, but I haven't heard back from
14:38him about that.
14:39>> We've had trucks coming down. The one
14:41that David brought down with the
14:43generator on it was a pretty heavy
14:44truck.
14:45>> Yeah.
14:45>> And it had all kinds of stuff that we
14:47piled on top and you know, he unloaded
14:50and then got up fine.
14:52>> Yeah.
14:53So there's there's the wall stone and
14:57then
14:59he's going to you know also you know
15:02look at the other stone as well and see
15:03how much how much of that stuff he can
15:05actually get down there. I mean, I if
15:10what would be nice if is if he can get
15:12all that down there pro bono,
15:16then all [clears throat] we have to deal
15:18with is um finding someone to actually
15:23take the larger stuff and assemble the
15:26the bridge.
15:27>> Yeah. Someone like Ben Young.
15:29>> Yeah. So he mentioned Ben Young and he
15:31said Ben Young has got like, you know, a
15:34lot of got good equipment now. He's been
15:37massing. He's got some good stuff. So um
15:41he might use the contact. He's gonna I
15:44think he's going to talk to him first
15:47because you seem to know him pretty
15:49well.
15:50>> Chandler's going to talk to Ben.
15:52>> No, Chandler. Yeah, Chandler.
15:55>> Okay. Chandler. Not Chandler. Sorry.
15:57Chandler.
15:58>> [laughter]
16:01>> products of communication here. Okay,
16:03terrific. Um, do you think that there
16:06will be any chance there will be any
16:08stones that the kids on November the 2nd
16:10that Sarah is bringing?
16:12>> I have no information.
16:13>> I don't know what the date about time
16:16framing just
16:17>> Okay. First of all, finding out if the
16:19diaper
16:20>> Okay,
16:21>> we do have Chris and his crew coming
16:23down on Friday to clear the whole bank.
16:28So, that that's something that we
16:29certainly can have the kids do is dig up
16:31the invasives.
16:33>> And I have ferns and I believe you have
16:36ferns and anybody else has anything that
16:37we can plant to hold the soil.
16:40>> Yeah, I've had a lot of um of Solomon
16:44seal that would do well there. Right,
16:46>> Philippa. It's November 3rd. It's
16:48election day.
16:49>> Okay. November 3rd, not the second.
16:50Sorry.
16:51>> And then also November 10th. It's the
16:53backtoback Tuesdays.
16:54>> Oh, the 10th as well. I didn't know
16:56about that.
16:57>> Yeah, November because I divided them
16:58up. So, November 13th has 17 and
17:01November 10th has 12.
17:03>> And Sarah, are they both the same times,
17:0512:30?
17:06>> November 3rd is 12:30, 1:45 because we
17:08don't we have a virtual day or
17:10asynchronous day or something that day.
17:12And November 10th is right after school,
17:142:30, 3:45.
17:16>> Okay.
17:18>> Okay. I have that time now.
17:21>> So, I'm sorry. On the ferns, when did
17:23you want those brought in? This Friday
17:25or another day?
17:28>> No, the ferns we would want for for
17:30these work days when the kids are
17:31coming.
17:32>> I see. Okay. All right.
17:36>> Yeah. You know, sorry to come in so
17:37late. Um, how far are we with the
17:39agenda? Did we get through all the stuff
17:41that we needed to do earlier, Sarah?
17:42>> Yep. We we're on we're just on the
17:44update.
17:48>> Okay. Thank you so much, Tom, for going
17:50out there this morning and meeting with
17:51him finally.
17:52>> So, probably the the thing that that is
17:55most important is, you know, to try to
17:57get those trees down. And I don't know
18:00who's tasked with
18:02advancing that. I mean, we've got an
18:05estimate now.
18:07Um,
18:10>> yeah,
18:11>> we do. Um, my understanding from the
18:14estimate, and I just want to clarify
18:17that with people, is that it would cost
18:20us $1,400
18:23for full removal of the marked trees
18:28with no
18:30>> trees.
18:31>> I'm sorry.
18:32>> All the trees that we want done. This is
18:34that's number that's the top of this
18:38particular sheet.
18:40>> Yeah.
18:40>> That I sent you on.
18:43Um
18:45and it says full removal of marked
18:49trees. Everything will be chipped or
18:51removed with a log truck. Cleanup
18:54included, but no stump grinding. The
18:57price includes removing two Tree of
19:00Heaven trees. Am I right about that?
19:04That for this
19:05>> I
19:05>> I didn't read it that way. That's
19:08>> Yeah, I thought they were separately
19:10lined items,
19:12but we'll have to look at it again.
19:14>> Well, it says full removal is the first
19:17item. The second one says drop and
19:20leave.
19:20>> Yeah, that's
19:23what I was hearing. So, so the full
19:26removal is they drop they can drop them.
19:32How much was the drop in leave once?
19:34>> Same price. 1,400.
19:37>> Well, but you So each one So you look
19:40down below there's a there's pictures of
19:42the trees and each picture has a number.
19:46So it's number one full removal, two
19:49dropping leave, three full removal, four
19:51dropping leave. So, it's like it's like
19:54a a
19:57menu and you and then number six is trim
20:00trees, seven is other. So, each one of
20:03those things you've got number one is
20:05$1,400.
20:07Number two is is $1,400.
20:11Number three is $875. I mean, they're
20:13all menu items. You just pick the ones
20:16you want. You know,
20:18>> why would we not want full removal?
20:22price.
20:23>> It's It's more expensive. So, it's
20:25$1,400 for the That's what how I read
20:28it. For the number one tree, which was
20:30number one.
20:31>> Number one is the
20:35Well, number one is tree of heaven. I'm
20:39sorry. No. No. Why?
20:42There's not There isn't a picture for
20:44number one. Number one is
20:46>> of heaven.
20:53It doesn't say that's that's
20:55>> I I find this such confusing and maybe
20:57that's just me
21:03>> actually. Excuse me. The tree of heaven
21:06is is listed as number two. P the number
21:10there's a different the number is in the
21:12middle of the photo. So the number the
21:15item number one is actually tree of
21:17heaven is number two. It's confusing.
21:21So, you got to look at the number in the
21:23photo. It's a yellow number there. So,
21:27basically, if we do all of these,
21:30it's
21:32there's I don't know if you did a total
21:34at the bottom.
21:35>> Maybe that's what she's saying.
21:37>> They don't have it. There's no total.
21:40That's what confuses me.
21:41>> Well, that's because
21:44you're going to pick the ones you want.
21:47John, have you looked at this?
21:49>> Not not in a while. Um, I can certainly
21:52do that. The issue is that's
21:55um a big chunk of change to do all those
21:59things. And if some of them were marked
22:03as a safety concern, we should negotiate
22:06with the town to get the town to do
22:08those. That was my thought was because
22:10he's done the number one risk the level
22:12one risk assessment which talks about
22:15those trees
22:16>> and and I think that the the um the
22:20beach down that we have to take out down
22:22the wetlands and then um the hemlock
22:25which is kind of in the path to get the
22:27pucks down. Those were all on the risk
22:30level. I think the locust was
22:34um not as big a concern, but since
22:38you're taking it down, they're going to
22:40anyway. So, I think those all might be
22:42tree towns.
22:44>> Might be what? Oh, hazards.
22:47>> Yeah. ones that the we should have the
22:49the town take taped out
22:53>> because those are the three that we need
22:56in order to get the um rocks and the
23:00bridge done.
23:02>> Right. And now that Chandler has sort of
23:05got involved with the rocks, I will make
23:09an appointment to take this stuff in
23:10front of him and give him the risk
23:13assessment
23:15and see what we can negotiate with the
23:18town as far as sharing the cost. My
23:21concern is that we want to have it done
23:23PDQ so that we can do the rest of the
23:25stuff with the rocks.
23:27>> And I know the town crew,
23:29>> you know, have all kinds of other
23:30priorities. That's what they've told us
23:32is they have all sorts of other
23:33priorities and we're not high on that
23:34list of priorities.
23:36>> Which means we're never going to get it
23:37done.
23:38>> No, it doesn't, Sandra. [laughter]
23:43We're going to get that $5,000 grant
23:45that Noren says is already is coming on
23:48the way, right? [laughter]
23:51>> I haven't heard anything.
23:53>> Ah, that's so exciting. Sandra told me
23:56about that. I'm so excited, too. We're
23:57all just holding our breath here, hoping
23:59it comes through. Right. Well, I think
24:01you will get the notification because um
24:06>> on it
24:07>> I think that you're the contact though
24:09because they asked for like the official
24:11person. So anyway,
24:14>> so you'll probably hear so watch your
24:16emails.
24:17>> Oh, I will watch my emails like a hawk.
24:21That will be so exciting. So, in terms
24:23of leaving the trees, I see where we
24:27would remove the hemlock and the beach,
24:31uh, because they have some sort of
24:34disease, right? Or potentially would.
24:37And also, the tree of heaven isn't
24:40native, but the locust is is that
24:43diseased as well, because that could
24:45just be left, couldn't it, in an
24:47appropriate place?
24:48>> I think so, Norin. That one's not as
24:52important. It's the really number seven,
24:55the beach and and even the hemlock. I
24:58mean, the truck can probably get around
25:00that no problem, but it's like so if as
25:04far as construction goes, the thing that
25:07is the most important is get that one
25:08beach.
25:09>> But isn't that hemlock um on Isn't the
25:13hemlock though
25:15a risk a high risk though?
25:17>> Yeah. Well, not not not such a high risk
25:21because it's dead. So, apparently a
25:24higher risk is is trees that have leaves
25:26that are more likely, you know, the
25:29hemlock the wind can just blow through
25:31because it doesn't have any leaves on
25:33it,
25:33>> right?
25:34>> Yeah. But can it in in a strong enough
25:37wind, won't it like come down or not?
25:41I would think it would, but that's what
25:44I was told was that that
25:45>> I mean that seems like kind of a risk if
25:47you're having people gu you don't want a
25:49free falling on them.
25:51>> Well, what so we we don't have to do the
25:54risk assessment, right? We already have
25:56some been done. So
25:57>> that's we don't need to debate how what
25:59risky is,
26:00>> right?
26:01>> Just it's like we have the risk
26:03assessment
26:04>> the town you can show it to the town.
26:07I'm gonna take it to the town and me and
26:09John can look at it and decide what
26:10they're going to do about it.
26:11Absolutely.
26:12>> Yeah. I just
26:14>> the right approach to get them as
26:17>> quickly on board and if they when you
26:22talk to them if there's
26:25a particular tree if they can only do so
26:27much right off the bat say we need that
26:30one beach down.
26:34We can wait a little bit.
26:36>> Right. My understanding I guess from the
26:38um quote from Arbor, the Arbor active
26:42people was that they would do the
26:44poisoning of the um the tree of heaven
26:48for $28183.
26:52That would not include taking it down,
26:54but it would include getting the poison
26:57into it this this fall.
27:00Am I wrong about that or am I right?
27:02>> Well, number one says full removal. So I
27:05think it's it's a it
27:06>> it's on a separate sheet. It's on this
27:08sheet here
27:12>> which talks about
27:14um apply herbicide to three large tree
27:19of heaven and several small sprouts at
27:24the Palmer arboratum to prevent
27:26respouting after removal.
27:31So, does that mean that they could
27:33poison them now and we wouldn't have to
27:35take the tree down yet?
27:36>> We We shouldn't have to take the tree
27:38down till next spring anymore,
27:40>> right?
27:41>> If they poison I did find another tree
27:43of heaven down by the um shed.
27:47>> Well, it's a little weird.
27:49>> Yeah, but they'll poison that one, too.
27:50>> Yeah.
27:52>> But my thinking is if that if if that's
27:54all they're going to charge to poison
27:56this tree of heaven, we should have them
27:58do it.
27:58>> Do it. Yeah. Well, not like you said
28:01that now is the time to do it. It's the
28:03right told it's the right time to do it.
28:05So, at least get it poisoned,
28:07>> right? So, everybody agrees on that that
28:08we should go if that's what if that's
28:10what it is, we should go ahead and do
28:11it. Okay.
28:12>> Um bringing down
28:14>> the ashes, the beach and the hickory. I
28:18need to go and talk to the town and take
28:20in the risk assessment and say,
28:24"Will you work with us?"
28:25>> Yes.
28:26>> Right. One one point of clarification
28:28though. I'm sorry.
28:30>> I had a point of clarification. We have
28:32we have a proposal for taking down
28:36certain trees. If the town gets
28:38involved, are they going to simply pay
28:42for this guy to remove it or are they
28:45going to want are they going to have
28:47someone else do it or the town or the
28:50town crew doing it?
28:52>> I think that's that that would have to
28:54be sort of part of the discussion, Tom.
28:57you know this is this is what we we've
28:59got from this these guys as what it
29:03would cost
29:04>> right
29:04>> you can you do it for less fast
29:08you know because they can certainly if
29:11they can find a a cheaper group to do
29:13the same business
29:15>> within the timeline I'm happy with that
29:17as long as long as it gets done
29:19>> good well as long as that's that's part
29:21of discussion that's all I
29:22>> right that's I think it should be part
29:24of the discussion that's perfect
29:25>> um my other thought is do we want to
29:28replace Bartlett with this
29:32group? This arborist.
29:36>> I vote yes.
29:37>> I vote yes.
29:37>> I vote yes.
29:40[clears throat]
29:41>> Sarah, what do you think?
29:42>> No. I I think so, too. Yeah.
29:45>> Oh, yes. John,
29:48>> when do we think they're um
29:54>> Well, Bartlett hadn't been very
29:55responsive, so they wouldn't be hard to
29:57be more responsive.
29:58>> The Bartlett representative seemed so
30:02poorly informed and the Arbor active guy
30:06seemed so aware of our needs, our cost
30:09restraints. He's been to the arboritum.
30:12He seemed much smarter.
30:15He brings he brings uh students there
30:18and they he uses it at the arburetum as
30:22a training ground for his his students
30:26and
30:26>> so he knows it intimately.
30:27>> He knows it very well. Um that to me
30:31said a lot. The other thing that said a
30:34lot is that he said he could have his
30:36students take on like the Carolina
30:38Silver Bell which is kind of fumbling
30:41and and floundering and they would take
30:43it on as a proono. So they're willing to
30:46work with us on a few things. He's
30:49local. That's why I say yes. I mean I
30:53liked I liked his demeanor and how he
30:56talked about the Arborita
31:00and I thought he was very knowledgeable.
31:03I would agree. Um I'm not sure if we
31:07have to check this through Chandler and
31:09I will run it by Chandler when I have
31:10the meeting because you know I think you
31:13mean the [clears throat] town in a sense
31:14hires Bartlett because we are a town
31:17park.
31:19>> I have sure that we have the right to
31:22>> um terminate Bartlett and and try these
31:25people who are and I agree. I loved his
31:27enthusiasm.
31:28>> Well, I don't think we're terminating
31:29Bartlett. I think we're I think we're
31:31doing a price assessment that this makes
31:33more sense for us and and I think
31:35Barllet's not willing to work with us.
31:37Like we
31:39think if you go to the town and like
31:41look we need we know we need help. We
31:42made a presentation. We found this
31:44person who's certified who has all the
31:46credentials who's willing to work with
31:48us who's willing to do some stuff pro
31:50bono. It's not that we're firing Barllet
31:52just so we have a bar. It's not a
31:55commentary on whether or not Barlet's
31:56good for us. It's a commentary that we
31:57just can't afford them.
31:58>> Right. But I mean at some point we have
32:00to let Barta know that because we have a
32:01contract with Bartlett for a period of
32:03time and we've had them for years. So I
32:05think it's polite to let them know that
32:06we're not going to be renewing the
32:08contract.
32:10>> Well, the other thing I like about Arbor
32:12Active too, uh, Philippa is that they're
32:15not willing just they're not willing
32:17just to scrap all the trees and kill,
32:19you know, they're gone. They're going to
32:21die. What I liked about these guys is
32:24well, yeah, I think, you know, um, we
32:27can we can certainly take down some of
32:30the beach. It's definitely going to die,
32:32but it doesn't have to come down all
32:34cadet, you know, type of approach. And I
32:37kind of like that willingness to work
32:40with us a little bit more rather than,
32:43you know, $20,000, it's got to come out
32:46type of
32:48um, I like that about them. A little
32:50more
32:52um kind of easy on
32:55>> on it.
32:56>> Okay, Kristen, do you have any thoughts?
33:00>> You liked it. Okay. Okay. Let me discuss
33:03that also with Chandra. That would be
33:04our cha just to make sure that we don't
33:06have to do anything through the town in
33:08order to make those switches. And I like
33:10the way you expressed it, Sarah.
33:12>> So that Yeah. I mean, just makes sense.
33:14>> Yep.
33:14>> Trying to save money for the town.
33:17>> Sarah
33:19are indeed. Santa communicated to me
33:22that while you guys were out there, I'm
33:23not sure who heard it, how many people
33:25heard it, but um she said that the the U
33:29that's at the
33:31south entrance, that one that looks
33:34completely dead. She said that he told
33:38her or you guys that it's not it's
33:42salvageable, but
33:43>> yes, he did.
33:44>> So, that didn't seem to get addressed in
33:46either of these uh letters.
33:50And that seems like that's important. If
33:53if if it's salvageable, then something
33:55needs to be done sooner,
33:58>> right?
33:59>> So, I don't know if we just need to ask
34:00them for an additional quote
34:03or what.
34:07>> Yeah, I'm not sure.
34:10But he did say he did say that it it
34:12needed I mean there was a chemical that
34:14it was that it ought to be being fed
34:16with and that it should be sal you know
34:18salvageable. Who knows? I mean we still
34:22are looking for that border for the town
34:25to put down to get the water running
34:27into the rain garden
34:29um and to protect those trees that just
34:31seem to get whatever the runoff is. It
34:34makes them very unhappy.
34:37And they and they this group said that
34:39they would do all kinds of testing to
34:41see what was in the soil, what was
34:42coming down, what was happening. So they
34:44have the ability to do the things that
34:47Bartlett
34:49has said they did or could do or would
34:52do, but haven't come up with any
34:56solutions for any testing that they said
34:59they had done,
35:01which is somewhat frustrating.
35:02>> Philippa, did Bartlett not give you an
35:04analysis of their testing? No,
35:08>> I think you paid for it.
35:12>> No, I didn't get any analysis from them
35:16and it and I the response that I got
35:18from from the young man was sort of
35:20vague about what what it was. Um,
35:24yeah.
35:26So, I don't
35:29Okay, so I need to go make an
35:31appointment with Chandler as soon as I
35:32can. Um, any other thoughts about this?
35:37On Friday, we have Chris and his crew
35:39coming to work on the bank. We have I've
35:44dumped a load of cardboard there today
35:46by the wood chips, and I can probably
35:48pick up more cardboard tomorrow because
35:50I'll be down in that area. Um, and I'm
35:54doing an LGB walk or I've offered an LGB
35:57walk at 10:00 on Friday and another one
36:00on 10:00 on Saturday. Um, anybody who
36:03wants to come is welcome, but I'll be
36:04down there working from 9 to 11 and
36:08maybe walk from 10 to 11 if people come.
36:11But you
36:12>> I'll come both days and work. Um, and if
36:15you need me for walking, I'll be walk
36:17I'll walk, but I'll be there. I'll I'll
36:20come and at least work.
36:22>> Okay.
36:23>> And what do you want the the cardboard
36:25to do? Where does it need to go? We have
36:27to take it all the way the rest of that
36:30uh lower end. Um Kristen of the slope we
36:33and the other side by the beam.
36:35>> Okay.
36:35>> We have to we have to clear all of that
36:37and some of that some of the kids uh
36:40that Sarah's going to bring help dig out
36:43some of the stuff that's in there too.
36:44You know, maybe I'll bring my um mark
36:48and my tape and if we see a lot of stuff
36:50we can't dig out or can't pull out, we
36:53can mark it and they can leave it for
36:55them to do.
36:57And and you guys can also, you know, we
36:59we can all monitor what Chris and his
37:01guys are up to so that we make sure that
37:03they are, you know, getting it down
37:05where we want them to get it down.
37:07>> Chris, are you are you gonna be there on
37:09Friday?
37:10>> I'm What's that?
37:12>> Is Kristen, are you gonna be there on
37:14Friday?
37:19>> You're still on mute.
37:20>> Still on mute. Sorry. Yes, I plan to be
37:22there.
37:24>> Terrific.
37:25>> What time is the walk? at 11
37:27or 10.
37:29>> What's that?
37:30>> What time is the walks at? 11 or 10?
37:31>> 10 o'clock. 10 o'clock. 10 to 11.
37:34>> 10 to 11 on Friday, 10 to 11 on
37:37Saturday. Um I offered both times
37:40because sometimes people, you know, work
37:42during the week and I would like to come
37:43on a weekend. So I I will be there to to
37:45walk both those two times. Anybody wants
37:48to come walk with me, terrific. Um,
37:50otherwise, you know, I can I can do it
37:52because sometimes it's only like one
37:54person or no people or three people or
37:57who knows how many.
37:59>> We'll uh we'll rake out the black walnut
38:02so nobody kills himself. It's like a
38:04little uh ball bearing thing down there.
38:07>> Oh, you don't have to rake the black
38:09walnut.
38:09>> Oh man, it's like walnuts and bake with
38:12them and make goodies out of them.
38:18I do have to say that David Petroski was
38:20amazing last week. Yeah.
38:22>> He came down on Friday with in his
38:25pickup truck with a generator and a
38:28roatiller
38:30>> and he worked for two hours roatilling
38:33that whole area. He helped plant trees.
38:36He was just just incredible.
38:40Really a very a wonderful volunteer for
38:44our our area.
38:46Right.
38:47>> I agree.
38:48>> Yeah, he was terrific.
38:50>> Very energetic.
38:52>> And maybe we'll have more volunteers
38:53this Friday. Who knows?
38:56>> You never know. [laughter]
38:58They can be queuing up, begging us for
39:00work.
39:02Okay. Um,
39:04>> that's the agenda. That's it. We did
39:06everything.
39:09>> Are you sure?
39:10>> 100%.
39:11>> Anybody else? Any other issues?
39:16Norin, are you back in Wood?
39:18>> Just I guess again about the U is that
39:22need to require a followup to uh talk to
39:25him
39:26actually arbor.
39:29>> Um so the the treatment of the U to
39:33switch um arborist is that what you're
39:35saying Tom?
39:36>> Well he's if if he's suggesting
39:39something that he can save it
39:40>> right I I I'll give him a talk. I'll
39:43give him a call.
39:44>> Great. Thank you for reminding me.
39:45Norin, are you in Woodstock now?
39:47>> Uh, for this month I am. Uh, so I will I
39:51do plan to be there on Friday. This
39:53Friday.
39:54>> Oh, I I [laughter] was I was trying to
39:57harass you to be there, but that would
39:58be wonderful. That would be great. And I
40:01want to say that um Kristen and Sandra
40:05and I all have taken some of the peony
40:07tree seeds and we're trying to get them
40:10to sprout. So, if you want any pe
40:12anybody want peony tree seeds, they are
40:15ripe and ready to go. And
40:17>> mine are just still sitting in the bowl
40:19that I put them in when I came home. So,
40:21I I need a another lesson uh this Friday
40:25on what I do with them.
40:26>> Where do you plant them? Outside?
40:29>> No, you put them you put them in they
40:31have to be in in warm a warm temperature
40:34for a couple of months. And you say
40:36>> months,
40:37>> scrub them and soak them. And then you
40:40can put them in a plastic bag with
40:41planting stuff or you can put them in a
40:44a pot or something and you keep them
40:46warm for two months and then you stick
40:48them out in the garage for two months.
40:50>> And that I'm out because I'm no heat
40:52till trick-or- treat so they'll die in 5
40:54seconds in this house.
40:55>> I have no idea [laughter] what happened.
40:57I'm hoping that Kristen figures it out
40:59because she is our big seed planter.
41:01>> So Kristen, um I need instructions
41:04because that would sounds even for me
41:07daunting.
41:08>> [laughter]
41:09>> You can do it.
41:12>> Put them in a baggie for now with a wet
41:14paper towel and
41:16>> throw it on top of the refrigerator.
41:17>> Yeah.
41:18>> For two or three months. Then they need
41:20to be cold stratified.
41:23>> Okay.
41:23>> Even syrup.
41:26>> Okay. Um Sandre, did you put in the
41:29price of the the cost of the trees to
41:31John?
41:32>> I did.
41:33>> Okay.
41:33>> Yep. And put in for the seed. So,
41:37>> and the seeds too, Tom. Okay, great.
41:39Just want to make sure we're we're
41:40covering our expenses here.
41:42>> Tom, I see I found your email. There's
41:45no attachment. All All there are is a
41:48funny string of numbers and letters. The
41:50attachment didn't come.
41:51>> I'll try again.
41:54>> Okay.
41:56>> Oh, I love to hear that. I'm not the
41:57only person who's an absolute
41:59>> I did say when you weren't here, I'm
42:01like, it's a tech issue. [laughter]
42:04>> It's definitely a tech issue.
42:06You should start trying to get on at
42:07like 6:30.
42:08>> Yeah.
42:10>> Okay. Um I would entertain a motion to
42:12adjurnn.
42:13>> So moved.
42:15>> I'll see you on Friday.
42:18>> Good night everybody. I'll see you
42:20possible on Friday. And Sarah, I owe you
42:22$10, I think, for your Teague calendar.
42:24>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna
42:26try and get there on Saturday, but I'll
42:27be at the boys soccer game on Saturday,
42:29too.
42:30>> Okay.
42:31>> All right. Bye. Good night, everybody.
42:34Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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