2026-10-15 - Board of Education

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Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):

Topic Minutes Share
Elementary facilities referendum 28 39%
Other business 17 24%
Career pathways and workforce readiness 13 19%
State education funding commission 4 6%
Agriculture facilities assistant job description 4 5%
Student personal technology policy 4 5%
High school tennis court renovation 1 2%
Food service meal debt policy 1 1%
  • Thursday, October 15, 2026.
  • Recording runs about 1 hour 13 minutes with no recesses or closed sessions; adjourned about 1:12:50.
  • Members are named in the captions by surname only, so most are shown as "Board Member" plus surname (spellings approximate).

Other business

0:00-9:57, 55:08-58:03, 59:24-1:01:19, 1:07:04-1:09:41, 1:12:36-1:12:54

  • Moment of silence for two former district staff members and for a school shooting elsewhere that day.
  • September 24 minutes approved by voice vote (the date is garbled in the captions). September 30 special meeting minutes approved 3-0, with five abstentions from members who were not at that meeting.
  • Student expulsion item added to the agenda by voice vote.
  • Student representatives reported on school events, the high school and sports.
  • Board Member Brown: the high school sports Hall of Fame is being restarted; the Wall of Honor celebration is December 8 with five new inductees.
  • Chair noted the superintendent was away at a Principal of the Year celebration honoring the DePaolo Middle School principal.
  • Policy and Personnel Committee also reviewed policies 4215 (athletic emergency action plan, new), 5114 (student discipline), 5123 (promotion and retention), 5132 (dress and grooming), 5141.8 (students with special health care needs, new), 5144.1 (restraint and seclusion), 6163 (live animals and service animals), and job descriptions for high school department facilitator and supervisor of deaf education and audiology.
  • Board Member Clark questioned the new "members tardy" wording in the minutes; the Chair will look into it.
  • Personnel report approved unanimously (moved by Board Member Carmody).
  • First reads: policies 3542.1, 4215, 5114, 5123 and 5141.8.
  • Job descriptions for the department facilitator role, supervisor of deaf education and audiology, and agriculture facilities assistant each approved by voice vote with no opposition.
  • Student expulsion approved, 8-0 with one abstention (moved by Board Member Clark).

Elementary facilities referendum

9:57-35:07, 1:10:05-1:12:36

  • Chair Oshana read a fact sheet, saying he was not advocating either way: ballot authorization of up to $86,675,560; estimated local cost about $39.7 million, or about $33.9 million with added state funding; no tax increase until 2029; Flanders to close no earlier than fall 2030.
  • Board Member Carson asked why 65% state reimbursement does not give a lower local share; the Chair said some costs are ineligible.
  • Board Member Wright asked what happens if it fails; the Chair said repairs would still be needed and could cost taxpayers more.
  • A resident said at public comment that families still lack a clear alternative plan and evidence for claims about school disrepair.
  • No vote.

Career pathways and workforce readiness

35:15-41:03, 46:09-48:02, 48:16-51:27, 51:50-54:17

  • Superintendent reported on a state forum on career pathways and workforce statistics tied to AI.
  • Board Member Brown asked what the district is doing; the answer pointed to industry credentials such as the high school EMT course and OSHA certifications.
  • Board members debated whether the changes are worrying or an opportunity and asked for curriculum review and feedback.

State education funding commission

41:03-45:08

  • Superintendent summarized the Governor's commission focus groups on cost sharing, special education, school choice and accountability. Target to wrap up by January 17.

High school tennis court renovation

45:25-46:07, 48:02-48:16, 51:27-51:50

  • About 95% complete. Board Member Anastasia asked about budget and the delay from mid to late September; the superintendent will follow up.

Food service meal debt policy

54:34-55:08

  • Policy and Personnel Committee report: revisions to policy 3542.1 allow sending unpaid meal charge information to a collection agency after June 30. First read held.

Student personal technology policy

58:22-59:21, 1:04:01-1:06:43

  • Committee reviewed current phone practices and model policy 5131.81; members said it is working well. Reevaluation planned in six to eight months.

Agriculture facilities assistant job description

58:03-58:22, 1:01:21-1:04:00, 1:06:45-1:07:03, 1:08:45-1:09:00

  • Board Member Carson asked about funding and pay for the new barn position. Answer: hourly, 15 to 20 hours a week at $20 to $25, grant-funded. Approved by voice vote with no opposition.

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00:00Southington Board of Education meeting

00:01for Thursday, October 15th, 2026. If we

00:05could all stand for the Pledge of

00:06Allegiance, then I'd like to ask our

00:07scouts to lead us in the pledge this

00:09evening.

00:13>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

00:15United States of America, and to the

00:18republic for which it stands, one nation

00:21under God, indivisible, with liberty and

00:24justice for all.

00:26>> Thank you.

00:32Okay, before we get started this

00:34evening, I'd like to

00:36ask for a moment of silence. We lost two

00:38more members of our Southington district

00:40uh family.

00:42Uh Mr. Gary Thompson passed away on

00:44September 14th. Mr. Thompson was hired

00:47in July of 2025 as a full-time custodian

00:50at Plantsville Elementary School.

00:53He moved to Southington High School as a

00:54full-time custodian in September 2013.

00:58Mr. Thompson was promoted to full-time

01:00assistant head custodian in August of

01:032015

01:04and served in this role until his

01:05well-deserved retirement in January

01:082016.

01:10We also lost Catherine Reeves, Katie

01:12Reeves. Mrs. Reeves was the beloved

01:14principal at Thalberg Elementary School

01:17from July 2018 until her resignation in

01:20June 2022.

01:22During her tenure as principal, her

01:24motto was consistently, "Kids come

01:26first." And she embodied that motto in

01:29everything she did.

01:31And in addition, I'd like to ask also uh

01:33for a moment of silence um

01:36for another

01:38I'd call it a tragic event, but it's

01:39it's more than that. There was another

01:40school shooting today, elementary school

01:43shooting in Oregon.

01:45Um may we all please keep those people

01:47in our thoughts and prayers as well. A

01:49moment of silence, please.

01:58Thank you very much.

02:01>> Okay, we're looking for approval Excuse

02:03me, the minutes from our September

02:052024th meeting.

02:06>> So moved.

02:07>> Motion Mrs. Carmody, second Mrs. Clark.

02:10Any discussion?

02:12All in favor?

02:13>> I.

02:13>> I.

02:13>> Opposed? That motion passes. Then we

02:15have a

02:17meeting meeting minutes from September

02:1930th, 2026. This was a special meeting

02:22in which Mrs. Carmody,

02:25Mrs.

02:27Clark, and Mrs. Anastasia were

02:29attending. So, those three would be able

02:30to vote on this. The rest of us would be

02:32abstaining since we were not part of

02:33that meeting.

02:34>> Motion to accept.

02:36>> Second. [clears throat]

02:36>> A motion and a second. Any discussion

02:38for you guys? No? All in favor?

02:41>> I.

02:41>> Any opposed?

02:42>> No.

02:42>> All right, and I'll abstain.

02:44>> Abstain.

02:44>> Any abstentions? Bob.

02:47So, one Motion passes

02:503-0.

02:52Five abstentions. Thank you.

02:55>> Uh Mr. Chair,

02:56>> Yes, ma'am.

02:56>> I'd like to add a

02:58um an item

02:5911 uh I'm sorry, 10G to our agenda

03:04for a student expulsion

03:082026

03:09-27-1.

03:12>> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a

03:13second?

03:14>> I second.

03:14>> Okay, motion and a second. All in favor?

03:16>> I.

03:16>> Opposed? Okay, that is added to the

03:18agenda, item 10

03:20>> G.

03:20>> G. Okay.

03:22Um we will start now with public

03:24communications. We'll look for

03:25communications from our student board

03:27representatives.

03:29>> Good evening everyone. So, to begin with

03:31the district report, Southington will

03:33host its annual Halloween Carnival with

03:36games thanks to high school volunteers

03:38from Key Club and National Honor

03:40Society.

03:41Uh Karen Smith Academy took a field trip

03:43to Southington Bread for Life today and

03:45met

03:46Missy Carpiano, who spoke about what

03:48Bread for Life offers and for our

03:50community and building a partnership

03:52with Bread for Life. So, the students

03:54will volunteer there throughout the

03:55school year.

03:56Uh Southington fifth graders are off to

03:58Sturbridge Village where they're going

04:00to participate in a day of hands-on

04:02learning at the Old Sturbridge Village

04:04where they will walk through historic

04:06homes, a house, and farms, as well as

04:08other historical events with the period.

04:12The JFK eighth graders participated in

04:14Grit and Wit last Friday, a

04:15team-building activity with mental and

04:18physical challenges from September 15th

04:20to October 13th. The morning

04:22announcements also highlighted

04:24influential

04:26Sorry. Influential Hispanic Americans in

04:28honor of National Hispanic Heritage

04:30Month. And unity will be recognized on

04:33October 21st for National Bullying

04:35Prevention Month where students and

04:36staff will wear orange to stand up

04:38against bullying.

04:40Flanders students are looking forward to

04:41the annual PTO Trunk or Treat event

04:44scheduled on Friday, October 23rd, and

04:46the Flanders staff has a surprise in

04:48store for our students on Halloween day.

04:51Students at DePaolo began volunteering

04:53at the Calendar House serving lunch to

04:55senior citizens and enjoying

04:56conversations. And two students each day

04:59are assist as part of the leadership

05:01program.

05:02Students at DePaolo were also busy at

05:04the Apple Harvest Festival. If you know,

05:06you saw them doing the little cheer. And

05:09um they did great job with um donating

05:12and creating money for the Pediatric

05:14Cancer Research. And thank you for

05:16everyone who visited and supported them.

05:18And students from DePaolo were also busy

05:20at Bread for Life with their annual Soup

05:22Night fundraiser. And they had a lot of

05:25attendees, so they're very grateful for

05:26everyone who came. And the community

05:28service volunteers at DePaolo had their

05:30first meeting last week where students

05:32will be completing various projects

05:34throughout the years to support the

05:35Southington Community Services.

05:39>> All right. Hello, everyone. So, I'll be

05:41reporting on Southington High School

05:42tonight. Today, we had juniors and

05:45sophomores take the PSAT. A lot of the

05:48transitions went really smoothly and

05:50kids made sure to get to their rooms on

05:51time. The pep rally was held on October

05:549th, last Friday, and it went very well.

05:56The student body was very involved and

05:58excited. The unified sports teams

06:00received incredible support and immense

06:02cheers as well.

06:03This upcoming Tuesday, October 20th, SHS

06:06will hold its annual fall concert

06:08featuring symphonic band, chamber

06:09singers, and orchestra.

06:11Next Wednesday, the math team will be

06:13competing at Avon High School.

06:15To conclude the more academic based

06:16portion, the first quarter is ending on

06:18October 29th. For more extracurricular

06:20focused events, National Honor Society

06:22and World Language Honor Society have

06:24inductions on the 22nd. There will also

06:27be a first-generation college info

06:29session on how to navigate through the

06:31college process for students to be the

06:33first in their family to attend college.

06:36There is also a robotics competition,

06:38the CyberKnight Invitational, being

06:40hosted at Southington High this weekend

06:41with teams from all over New England

06:44combining with STEM for all with free

06:47activities for kids.

06:50>> Um I will be reporting on the sports.

06:52The Blue Knights are continuing the

06:54continuing their very successful fall

06:56season with wins and achievements across

06:57the board. Last week, the track teams

06:59held their senior meet celebrating their

07:01seniors alongside their families. The

07:03girls volleyball team hosted a pink out

07:05game in support of breast cancer

07:06awareness and came away with a great win

07:08against Maloney. Also, the marching band

07:11continues to impress earning outstanding

07:12results across multiple competitions

07:15these last few weeks. The girl's swim

07:17team also had a successful week

07:18defeating Conard yesterday while

07:20demonstrating their support for breast

07:21cancer survivors. On the soccer field,

07:23the girls team battled to a tie against

07:25Berlin on Tuesday and will look to build

07:27on that performance as they take on

07:29Wethersfield today.

07:31Looking ahead, the boys golf team is

07:32preparing to compete in the CCC

07:34Championship tomorrow and coach Mac Loom

07:37won CCC Golf Coach of the Year.

07:39And finally, the undefeated football

07:41team had another win to their season,

07:43defeating Manchester in their Pink Out

07:45game last Friday. Overall, it's been a

07:47fantastic week for the sports.

07:49>> Awesome. Nice.

07:50>> Thank you very much. Does anybody have

07:51any questions for our student reps?

07:53>> No. Can I just add though, last night at

07:55the soup night, awesome job by the

07:58waiters and waitresses.

08:01Their service was a

08:03You couldn't sit there for 2 seconds

08:05without somebody Can I get you some? Can

08:07I get you some? The kids were amazing.

08:08Absolutely incredible. So Yeah, they

08:10were fabulous.

08:11>> All right.

08:13Thank you guys very much. Thank you for

08:14the information.

08:15>> Thank you.

08:15>> All right. Communications from members

08:18of the Board of Education. Does anybody

08:19like to speak?

08:21Mr. Brown?

08:22>> Yeah, a couple things.

08:23We had a meeting yesterday. We are

08:26forming a new There was a sports Hall of

08:29Fame at the high school, which

08:31stopped in 2015. We have a committee

08:34now. We're restarting that. We're going

08:36to probably go public with it in

08:38December with applications and

08:40bylaws and all that stuff, but we had

08:42another meeting yesterday very

08:43successfully.

08:44Also, the Wall of Honor, again, we're

08:46having a celebration on December 8th.

08:49We're inducting five new people,

08:51terrific class this year, and we're also

08:54honoring because it's our 20th year,

08:56past inductees.

08:58Tickets are on sale. They're $60. That

09:00includes roughly $10 to pay for a free

09:03ticket for those who are being inducted.

09:05And also, we're taking donations. If

09:08you're interested in either one of

09:09those, contact K and I will send you

09:11tickets or whatever it is you need for

09:13donations. We just got a couple of great

09:16donations today, in fact, in the mail.

09:18So, that's December 8th. Great event at

09:21the Aquaturf.

09:23>> Thank you, Mr. Brown. Anybody else?

09:27>> No.

09:28>> All right. I have I have a couple of

09:28things I'd like to to mention. First of

09:30all,

09:31Mr. Peppy is not here this evening

09:33because he is at the Principal of the

09:36Year celebration, which is celebrating

09:38our principal of the year, Mr. Chris

09:40Palmieri, principal at DePaolo Middle

09:42School. So, their timing of when they

09:44planned this, we didn't do it. Another

09:46organization did it. We would have all

09:47loved to have been there this evening to

09:48celebrate Chris,

09:50but we're here instead. So, Mr. Peppy

09:52and some other administrators are there

09:55representing the town of Southington.

09:57I want [clears throat] to take a couple

09:58minutes regarding the upcoming

10:01elementary facilities referendum.

10:03There's a lot of information out there

10:05online in the public domain.

10:09Some of it true, some of it not true,

10:10some of it partially true.

10:12So, what I wanted to do was just take a

10:14few minutes. There's a lot of questions

10:15that I've been asked, that I've heard,

10:17that others have heard. And I want to

10:18put some information out there. I'm not

10:20advocating in favor of or

10:22[clears throat] against, but I think

10:24putting fact out there right now is

10:25really, really important. So, I'm going

10:27to take a few minutes and go through

10:29these. I I took

10:30the documentation that we've had. I've

10:33been going through a whole bunch of

10:34materials,

10:36drafted information from that, and

10:37created these along with some of the

10:39questions and answers that have gone in

10:41front of this board and other boards.

10:42So,

10:43first question I want to talk about is

10:45how many meetings has the facilities

10:46committee held on this issue?

10:48So, the

10:50the facilities committee started as an

10:53education the

10:55education committee, and then it turned

10:56into a district-wide facilities

10:58committee. We had 20 meetings

11:01since the beginning of this discussion

11:02regarding the elementary schools.

11:04All these meetings were open to the

11:05public. Some of them were during COVID

11:07time. They were some of them were

11:10virtual, so people could get in.

11:13There were people that were there.

11:14Members of the public were visiting us

11:16during those meetings and observing. We

11:18also had meetings that were in person,

11:21but there were 20 of them held where

11:23members of the community could observe,

11:24and then the members of the community

11:25also had opportunities during

11:27Board of Education meetings to actually

11:29come and speak in favor or against, or

11:32ask questions during the presentations

11:34[clears throat] that were given to us by

11:35the parties that created some of the

11:37information for us, the researchers, and

11:39then during regular board

11:40communications. So, what are the voters

11:42being actually asked to authorize?

11:45The voters are being asked asked whether

11:47the town should appropriate and

11:49authorize up to 86 million 675,560

11:54in bonds and notes

11:56for the elementary facilities plan. And

11:58this authorization covers a new Kelly

12:01Elementary School, completion of the

12:03lower level of South End Elementary

12:04School,

12:06where there are five classrooms that

12:07were roughed out when South End was

12:09built. This would finish those five, and

12:12then the closing and repurposing of

12:14Flanders Elementary School property for

12:16municipal and community use.

12:20Is the ballot authorization the same as

12:23the current project estimate? And the

12:25answer there is not exactly. The ballot

12:27question authorizes 86 million 675,560.

12:32Phase 1 project estimate right now is

12:368

12:37I said 800. It's 86 million 675,560.

12:42Bear with me with my numbers. The

12:44estimate is 86 million 400,000.

12:48So, there's a little bit of a variance

12:50there.

12:51And what does the work include if this

12:53referendum passes? It includes a new

12:55Kelly Elementary School, which will be a

12:57little bit larger than the one that's

12:58there now and have four sections per

13:00grade with approximately 494 students.

13:04South End Elementary School would

13:05complete the lower level with the

13:07addition of five classrooms. Those

13:09classrooms are not underground. Those

13:12classrooms will have windows to the

13:14outside.

13:15Flanders Elementary School, there would

13:18be a closure of Flanders no earlier than

13:20fall of 2030, followed by a repurposing

13:23of the building for the purposes of

13:24municipal and community use.

13:27And then attendance zones,

13:28redistricting. Redistricting associated

13:30with the consolidation with final zones

13:33expected in the fall of 2029 because we

13:36can't do them before the schools are

13:37done and ready to go and we know what

13:39other building is taking a place in town

13:41and the layout of our our community. So

13:44approximately 1 year before

13:45implementation the redistricting would

13:47be done.

13:49How would the referendum affect the

13:51number of elementary classrooms?

13:54So if the referendum passes, the

13:56district net net when it's all over with

13:58would net an increase of three available

14:01elementary school classrooms from where

14:02we are now.

14:04Additionally, we currently have based on

14:07the budget that we completed last year

14:09and the consolidation, there are

14:11currently 10 open classrooms elementary

14:14classrooms in the district right now.

14:16So Flanders currently has 15 classrooms

14:19that would no longer be used as

14:21elementary classrooms and the plan would

14:22be to add six

14:24classrooms additionally at the new Kelly

14:27Elementary School,

14:28five at South End,

14:30and then we would be moving students

14:33children from the childhood centers

14:36to the childhood center at Kelly from

14:38Hatton

14:39and Strong and that would open up seven

14:42more classrooms between Hatton

14:44and Strong Elementary School for a total

14:46gain of 18 classrooms. So when those

14:49classrooms, those 18 are combined with

14:51the 10 open classrooms currently across

14:54the district, and then you subtract the

14:5614 classrooms that Flanders would have,

14:59the district would net 13 more available

15:01classrooms.

15:03Six at Kelly,

15:04five at South End, seven between Strong

15:07and Hatton.

15:09Okay?

15:09>> Yes, sir, Shana. Um you just you said

15:1114. I just want to make sure it's 15

15:14classrooms.

15:15>> I said I'm sorry. I It's 15. I give me a

15:18beer with me with the numbers. It is 15.

15:20Okay?

15:23Let me fix that.

15:25Uh cost

15:26reimbursement and tax impact. How much

15:30is the town currently expected to pay

15:32after state reimbursement? So, the

15:35current estimate, again, the the the the

15:38budget is 86 million sum odd dollars,

15:41the estimated local cost would be 39.7

15:44million after state funds would come in.

15:47However,

15:48if the state approves the full space

15:50standard variance waivers and the

15:53applicable pre-kindergarten

15:54reimbursement, the estimate to the local

15:57town would decline to approximately

15:5933,900,000.

16:02That would be because we're getting

16:03additional funding from the state. The

16:04funding we receive would go up because

16:06of the early childhood center at the new

16:08Kelly Elementary School.

16:10When would taxpayers see an estimated

16:12increase? Well, there would be no

16:14referendum-related tax increase in 2027,

16:17no increase in 2028. The estimated

16:20impact would begin in 2029

16:23and increase in 2030 as borrowing is

16:25phased in.

16:27So, just as an estimate, if you have a

16:29home with a fair market value of

16:31$400,000,

16:33the tax increase in 2029 would be $9.14

16:36a month.

16:38Okay?

16:40There's a $900,000 annual savings

16:43number that's been thrown around. What

16:44does the $900,000 annual savings

16:47estimate mean?

16:49Well,

16:50the approximate $900,000 per year figure

16:53has been described uh

16:55based on estimates in a reduction of the

16:57annual board operating costs if

16:59consolidations occur.

17:01It should be understood that an

17:03estimated gross school district

17:05operating savings, not a verified

17:08taxpayer savings after future costs uh

17:11cost to retain, maintain, or repurpose

17:14Flanders. So, there's a difference

17:16between the school and the overall town.

17:20Flanders Elementary School has a final

17:22use been for Flanders been selected and

17:24the answer is no. Uh, the referendum

17:27states that the building and the

17:28property would be repurposed for

17:30municipal and community use, but no

17:32final program design, operating plan, or

17:35budget has been adopted yet. Preliminary

17:38ideas have been floated and discussed in

17:39correspondence including community

17:41services moving from where they are now

17:44into that building. Election services

17:46moving from town hall into that

17:47building, some storage, recreational

17:50use, temporary swing space for the town,

17:53or uh, limited occupancy, but these are

17:55possibilities. There has not been a

17:56commitment yet. That would not be from

17:58us. That would be something that would

18:00be done by the town council once this

18:02would be completed.

18:05Are the costs of retaining and

18:07repurposing Flanders known?

18:09The answer there is not yet.

18:11Future costs could include utilities,

18:14insurance, security, custodial services,

18:17routine maintenance, repairs,

18:18accessibility and code work, and any

18:21renovations required by uh, what would

18:23be needed for the selected use of that

18:25facility.

18:26These costs will depend heavily on

18:28whether the building is actively

18:29occupied, partially occupied, or kept

18:32largely dormant.

18:34A final net savings calculation cannot

18:36be made until the reuse concept, scope,

18:38and budgets are actually developed. So,

18:41the next question would be, what happens

18:42to the property um, if the referendum is

18:45passed?

18:46The ballot language says

18:48that the building and the property would

18:50be repurposed for municipal and

18:52community use.

18:53It will be used for municipal use, not

18:56for sale for residential development as

18:59part of a referendum plan.

19:01Decisions about the specific municipal

19:03or community use would occur later when

19:05the uh, town goes through their process

19:07of what they want to do with that

19:08building.

19:11Needs, alternatives, and processes. What

19:14is the project Why is the project being

19:16proposed now?

19:18So, the planning process was intended to

19:20modernize the remaining three older

19:23schools

19:24while considering enrollment, capacity,

19:27educational needs, existing building

19:29conditions, state reimbursement, and the

19:32town's ability to schedule major capital

19:35projects and debt.

19:37The reviewed materials

19:39identify prior enrollment studies,

19:42capacity and utilization analysis,

19:45planning options, site due diligence,

19:48facility conditions assessments, cost

19:50estimates, and these selections were

19:53used in the preferred scenario

19:54selection. All of those were done by

19:58outside firms that were contracted to

20:00come in. They were not done by the Board

20:01of Education. They were not done by the

20:03facilities group here for the for the

20:05district or for the town. It was an

20:07impartial third group that came in and

20:09did those analyses.

20:11So,

20:12>> [clears throat]

20:12>> what do the district materials say would

20:14occur if the rent referendum does not

20:17pass?

20:18The district sites, and we've said this

20:20a few times, that the approximate

20:23105.8 million to 116.4

20:26million of identified capital

20:28improvements would need to be done for

20:30Kelly, Flanders, and Darenosky. And that

20:33is based on the 2025

20:35facilities conditions assessment report.

20:38This would be repair work alone. It

20:40would not resolve educational programmal

20:42pro- programmatic needs, low

20:45district-wide utilization, enrollment

20:46imbalances, satellite attendance zones,

20:49or large differences in the schools'

20:52capacities. And this range represents

20:55um identified capital needs across the

20:57three schools. It is not presented as a

21:00direct like-for-like price quote for the

21:02referendum project.

21:05Does the proposal address every

21:07elementary school need? The answer is

21:09no.

21:10The referendum is described as phase one

21:13and focuses on Kelly, South End, and the

21:15consolidation associated with Flanders.

21:18There are other long-term capital needs

21:20including Darenosky and future work at

21:23other town and school facilities.

21:26Approval would be

21:27uh would not eliminate the need to move

21:29forward on some of these other things. I

21:30mean, just a reminder, our high school's

21:3250 years old

21:33this year.

21:34So, work is going to be needed there at

21:36some point as well.

21:38If the referendum does not pass, would

21:41the district still move forward with

21:42redistricting or closing an elementary

21:45school?

21:46The board would need to address the

21:48question at the time and determine the

21:50timing and format through formal action

21:52at public meetings. To date, the only

21:55redistricting approved by the board is

21:58tied to the current project proposal.

22:01And that redistricting, what it's going

22:03to actually be, we would not know until

22:05a year out before the the the new school

22:08would open and Flanders would close.

22:10However, the imbalance in school

22:12utilization rates would continue if the

22:14referendum does not pass. And we would

22:17need to uh address that at some point.

22:19Rebalancing of students among schools

22:22would also result in transportation

22:23savings. And currently, each bus

22:26that runs in the district costs us

22:28approximately $80,000 a year. By putting

22:30students closer to the schools in which

22:32they would be going to and living at,

22:34that would be a cost savings to the

22:36district.

22:37So,

22:38there's a few more to go. Why was

22:40Flanders chosen as the school to close?

22:44So, among the three remaining elementary

22:46buildings identified as needing

22:48significant capital work, Flanders,

22:50Kelly, and Darenosky, Flanders was the

22:53most underutilized based on the

22:54facilities and enrollment studies.

22:57Flanders is geographically close to

22:59Hatton. Kelly

23:00uh Kelly is on the west side of town and

23:03is not close to another elementary

23:04school while Dziarnoski is centrally

23:06located in an area with high population

23:08density.

23:10The Kelly parcel was determined to be

23:12highly suitable for new construction

23:15because it would allow the existing

23:16Kelly building to remain open and

23:19operating as an elementary school while

23:20the new building was being built on

23:22another part of that property. Would not

23:24impact the students at Kelly

23:27during construction.

23:29If the town still plans to use Flanders,

23:32how does closing it lead to capital

23:35improvement savings?

23:37So, beyond addressing underutilization

23:40across the elementary schools,

23:42completing a new or fully renovated

23:44Flanders as a school would require major

23:46work at once and could cause debt

23:49services to exceed the town's 9.5 policy

23:52limit, 9.5% policy limit.

23:55If Flanders is used as a municipal

23:57building, capital improvements could be

23:59phased in over several years.

24:01And some of the work agency, work

24:03required for the school modernization

24:05may not be necessary because they would

24:08if they were going to be putting

24:10pieces in there, they could do it

24:11bit-by-bit for renovation versus if it

24:13were a school, you'd have to do it all

24:15at once.

24:16The town could also consolidate agencies

24:18now located in other buildings

24:20in the town, potentially taking those

24:21properties offline, potentially selling

24:23them, and avoiding future capital needs

24:26for those buildings. Any proceeds or

24:28savings would depend on future

24:30decisions, costs, and the property

24:32sales.

24:34Are class sizes in the district going to

24:36increase if Flanders closes?

24:40Class sizes are expected to remain

24:42within the Board of Education's

24:43guidelines as they are now.

24:45Flanders currently houses 15 sections

24:47across K through 5.

24:49The proposal would add six classrooms at

24:51Kelly and five at South End, relocating

24:54preschool classes to the new pre-K wing

24:56at Kelly.

24:58Uh we would also uh make five additional

25:00classrooms at uh

25:03uh that would make five additional

25:04classrooms available at Strong and two

25:06at Hatton for a total of seven.

25:08So, a total of 18 classrooms.

25:11Will taxes increase if the project is

25:14approved?

25:16Uh there will be no project-related, I

25:17mentioned earlier, tax increases in '27

25:19or '28 while the project remains in

25:22design and development phase. The first

25:24estimated tax increase would be in 2029.

25:30Is there enough capacity in the

25:32remaining schools to close one without

25:35the proposed additions to Kelly and

25:37South End?

25:39Well, that answer is not uh

25:41definite yet.

25:43The enrollment projections used peak

25:45enrollment assumptions. While current

25:48enrollment is

25:492,599

25:51students, 164 fewer than the projected

25:552,763.

25:58At 25 students per classroom, that

26:00difference is equivalent to at least six

26:03classrooms.

26:05In addition, 10 elementary classrooms

26:07were eliminated through last spring's

26:09budget, meaning there are theoretically

26:1110 open classrooms across the district

26:13without new construction.

26:16The actual ability to close a school

26:18would still depend on grade level

26:20distribution, school locations, program

26:22needs, attendance boundaries, and formal

26:25Board of Education action.

26:28Timeline and accountability. So, what is

26:31the expected timeline if voters approve

26:33the referendum?

26:35In 2027 through 2028, the project

26:38development and construction period,

26:39there would be no estimated

26:41referendum-related tax increases because

26:43the planning and development would be

26:45going into place at that point.

26:472029, estimated tax impact begins.

26:51The attendance zones expected to be

26:54finalized by fall of 2029. Attendance

26:57zones is the redistricting process.

26:59In the fall of 2030, anticipated opening

27:02of the new Kelly facility,

27:04the completion of South ends additional

27:06five classrooms,

27:08and Flanders would close no earlier than

27:10this point and consolidation would then

27:12be implemented.

27:14>> [clears throat]

27:15>> Two more.

27:16What facts are settled and which still

27:20remain

27:21uh as estimates or future decisions? So,

27:23there's there's a bunch of things,

27:24right? But settled by the ballot

27:26question, the maximum appropriation is

27:29is settled. That's a decision that the

27:31town council made when they drafted that

27:34uh referendum question. The amount and

27:37the borrowing authorization. The

27:38inclusion of a new Kelly, South end fill

27:40out, and the Flanders closure and reuse

27:43of the Flanders property as municipal

27:45and community purposes. That is what the

27:48referendum question is asking.

27:50Current estimates, the total project

27:52cost, state reimbursement, local share,

27:56tax impact, opening dates, capital needs

27:59under the status quo, and annual school

28:02operating savings. We know those

28:05estimates. The future decisions are

28:07final design and eligible costs,

28:11final attendance boundaries,

28:13the specific use of Flanders to be

28:15determined by the town council,

28:17renovations and operating costs for that

28:19reuse, and the resulting

28:21net taxpayer savings.

28:25So, last lastly, is the what information

28:27should be updated publicly as the

28:29project advances? We need to keep people

28:31informed on the final state

28:32reimbursement and cost

28:34uh eligible cost determinations as this

28:37thing goes forward.

28:39Updated total and local share estimates

28:41after design milestones and bidding is

28:44done.

28:45Changes to the borrowing schedule and

28:47taxpayer impact, that is a finance

28:49department issue for the town of

28:51Southington.

28:52Uh the public process and criteria for

28:54final attendance boundaries, how would

28:56we go about doing redistricting?

29:00Um the documented Flanders reuse plan,

29:04one-time capital costs, annual operating

29:07costs, and expected offsets or savings,

29:10that is a plan that the town council

29:12would be putting together and voting on.

29:15And a reconciliation of estimated gross

29:18school savings with municipal costs to

29:21show projected and net taxpayer savings.

29:26So that's a lot and I I apologize for

29:27talking for that long and thank you for

29:29picking up on on an error that I made in

29:32in reading my my own document here. The

29:35purpose of doing that is I you see a lot

29:38of facts being put out there, but not

29:40all of them are true.

29:41So by putting out some of this stuff, I

29:44I'm going to I'm going to publicize this

29:46just so people can see it and read it

29:47and and if there's questions cuz just

29:49hearing it is hard to

29:51to digest. I wanted to put the facts out

29:53there.

29:55People need to make an educated

29:56decision. You can't make an educated

29:58decision without the facts.

30:00The actual facts. So, thank you for

30:03giving me more than an allotted amount

30:05of time, but I thought that was a very

30:06important thing to do.

30:08>> Thank you.

30:08>> Thank you for doing that.

30:09>> Thank you.

30:10>> And Mr. Carson?

30:11>> Yeah, if

30:13just just a little bit of clarification.

30:16Um

30:18So the numbers the numbers I heard

30:21um

30:22as far as the the borrowing

30:24authorization, which is what the

30:26referendum is, correct? Um is just over

30:2986 million.

30:31Um

30:33reimbursement

30:35rate through the state

30:38um provided that

30:41um our early childhood

30:43um um reimbursement comes through.

30:47Um you quoted a figure of 33.9

30:51million as the local share.

30:54>> Yes.

30:54>> Right? And that's

30:56the maximum reimbursement rate

30:59through the state. And um [snorts]

31:01superintendent, correct me if I'm wrong.

31:05That maximum reimbursement rate, as we

31:08know it today, is 65%, correct?

31:12>> Yes.

31:12>> It's a combination of it's 50

31:14>> Right.

31:15>> plus 15.

31:16>> Correct.

31:17>> 65.

31:17>> Right. So,

31:18right. So, 65 total. So,

31:22unless [clears throat] my math is

31:24incorrect,

31:2765%

31:28of just over 86 million is 56 million.

31:37>> That the state pays.

31:39>> Yeah.

31:39>> Yeah.

31:40>> It would be

31:42>> That's what we would

31:43>> 56 million. So,

31:4656 million minus 86 million is 30

31:50million, not 34 million.

31:54>> So, there are some There are

31:56There are some ineligible costs when

31:58you're doing

31:58>> Okay.

31:59>> school construction projects. So, you

32:01don't Not every single part of the

32:03project is eligible for reimbursement.

32:06>> Okay. Perfect.

32:07>> and Mr. Chairman, that's why we hire

32:09these outside firms to come in and do

32:10this. This is their thing. They

32:12understand which parts are, which is why

32:13we quote the numbers.

32:15We would not want to quote a lower

32:17number, right? And say it's it's it's 30

32:19when it's actually higher than that,

32:21because that would be wrong.

32:22>> Right. I just I just don't want people

32:24at home

32:25>> Okay. Yeah. Well, that's a good point.

32:27That's a very good point.

32:28>> doing the math and being like, where is

32:29that $4 million going? Or

32:32are we not getting it? Et cetera, et

32:34cetera. So,

32:35>> Thank you.

32:36>> Yeah. Thanks.

32:36>> good point.

32:37>> Yep.

32:38>> Mr. Chair.

32:38>> Mr. Wright.

32:39>> Um thank you very much for that very

32:41concise um

32:43articulation of the facts. We really

32:45appreciate that.

32:48A question or maybe just for uh us to

32:51speak about a little bit. So,

32:54if we don't if the referendum doesn't

32:56pass, and I see that number out there

32:59that's 110 million to let's say to fix

33:03everything.

33:06What does that actually really look like

33:09because if in essence

33:12we we wouldn't have the money to fix

33:15everything, so to speak.

33:17>> Well, I think so

33:20and out on the website there's the the

33:22the documents that these people did the

33:242025 the the facilities assessment for

33:26those three schools, and it shows you

33:27the capital assessments, the capital

33:29needs. The problem is is that we may not

33:31have the money, but we'd have to find

33:32the money. We'd have to tax We'd have to

33:33get that money from the community.

33:35And that's a that's a that's an

33:36interesting point because if And again,

33:38this is this is this is factual. This is

33:41not pro

33:43con anything, but we would have a 100

33:45and

33:4610 I'm picking that cuz it's kind of in

33:48the middle million dollars that we'd

33:49have to find. And that would come from I

33:52mean, it's not like a company where if

33:54in my company if we needed 110 million,

33:55we go out there and sell more. Right?

33:57Here we would have to get that from the

33:59community, and that's a a tax issue.

34:01>> And so, in reality

34:04we wouldn't get that. And we would be

34:05left with

34:07Derenovsky still with issues,

34:11Kelly still with issues,

34:13and Flanders still with issues just just

34:15based on the capital expenditures that

34:18are are needed that we wouldn't be able

34:20to re- resolve.

34:22>> Well, the problem is in in some of these

34:23cases if these are

34:25catastrophic capital failures

34:27we have to. Like if we don't have a

34:29boiler to to put heat in our schools

34:32If

34:32>> our electrical system fails, we can't

34:35not do that. So, we would have to find a

34:37way to get that money. And there's

34:39there's there's there's really one way a

34:41municipality to get that is to is to get

34:44>> There there there could be an instance

34:46could be an instance where

34:49if the referendum doesn't pass

34:52this could effectuate an increase

34:55greater than

34:56what the referendum is asking for.

34:59>> Correct.

35:00Correct.

35:00>> Thank you.

35:03>> Anybody else?

35:06Good?

35:07>> I'm good.

35:07>> Thank you.

35:07>> Good. Okay. All right. Um

35:12Communications from the administration.

35:15>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh a few

35:17announcements this evening. Last

35:18Thursday, I had an an opportunity to go

35:21to up to the Connecticut Science Center

35:24and the governor's uh

35:26Blue Ribbon Commission on Connecticut

35:28Career Way Pathway Connecticut Career

35:31Pathways um brought in a very dynamic

35:34speaker. Um

35:35what they're doing right now is they're

35:37trying to connect college and career and

35:39get kids workforce ready based on

35:40occupations that we know in Connecticut

35:42will be extreme shortage areas in the

35:44next several years. Um some already are.

35:47And so, a lot of the the presentation

35:50wasn't only geared to educators. Um

35:52although there were educators in the

35:53room, there was higher ed in the room as

35:55well in terms of college and what kids

35:57are leaving with in terms of in the

35:58return on investment. There were a lot

36:00of trades uh associations that were

36:03there. The Department of Labor was

36:04there. And it was kind of a uh

36:06a wake-up call, if you will, about, you

36:08know, what the current state of things

36:09versus where we need to start shifting

36:11to. In many ways, we've started to

36:13develop our pathways, but they're not

36:15necessarily as articulated as a formal

36:17pathway process that leads to um

36:20institutional

36:21credentials or industry credentials.

36:24Couple stats that he shared that I just

36:25took that I figure I would share

36:27tonight. Um

36:29around the smart machine age, right? AI.

36:31Gen Z unemployment rate is 8.3% right

36:35now. It's double the national average.

36:38Only 30% of 2025's college graduates

36:42have landed a full-time employment.

36:45Among HR respondents concerned about

36:47AI's impact on early career positions,

36:5076 76% believe it will significantly

36:54reduce hiring.

36:5768% of Gen Z says AI has made the job

37:00search more competitive.

37:03He talked about ghost jobs.

37:05There are companies that are using bots

37:07and posting jobs that don't actually

37:09exist, but it gives the appearance that

37:11their company is highly competitive if

37:13they're always looking for more people.

37:14>> Mhm.

37:15>> [clears throat]

37:15>> Um

37:1740% of employees are aiming to reduce

37:19their staff by 40%.

37:22Around 60%, possibly up to 80% of jobs

37:26are expected to be automated or

37:27significantly transformed by AI by 2050.

37:33Oxford predicts that 20 million

37:34manufacturing jobs will be lost by 2030.

37:39According to the World Economic Forum,

37:4175% of companies globally are predict

37:43are projected to adopt AI usage by 2027.

37:49That's I mean that's right there.

37:51From Georgetown University Center for

37:52Education Workforce,

37:54it's an estimate of 1/3 of the nation's

37:56top performing high school students,

37:58students that score over 1,000 on the

37:59SAT, do not obtain a college degree.

38:03And yet nearly all of them attempt

38:05college.

38:07The future of skills, up to 40% of core

38:10job skills are expected to change and

38:1250% of employees will need to learn new

38:15skills.

38:17375 million workers globally might have

38:20to change occupations in the next decade

38:22to meet companies' needs.

38:2466% of workers in Australia, UK, and US

38:28said L&D opportunities make or break

38:31their decision to take a job or stay at

38:33a company.

38:38The Gallup education survey, only 34% of

38:41students believe they will will graduate

38:43with the skills and knowledge to be

38:45successful in the job market workplace.

38:49Only 50% believe their major will lead

38:51to a good job.

38:54So,

38:55eye-opening in terms of what do we do?

38:56The The The central message is what are

38:59we doing to give our kids a competitive

39:01advantage?

39:02Um in ways that they're going to be able

39:05to pivot and be flexible because the

39:08world will be changing as fast as their

39:09occupations are. And so, it was It was a

39:13an eye-opener on college right now, and

39:14I've been saying this forever. Um you

39:17know, return on investment with the cost

39:19of higher education and the amount of

39:22kids that are getting full-time

39:23employment, you can see where that's

39:24becoming a real uh friction point for

39:27for kids right now.

39:28And so, that's an area that they're

39:31looking at very closely. But, at the end

39:32of this commission, I'm I'll be

39:33following them closely. I'm not a member

39:35of this commission. I just happened to

39:36be invited because I'm a part of a

39:37different career pathways community of

39:39practice, so we were invited to go up

39:41and listen. Very dynamic speaker, his

39:43name is Mark Perna. Uh he he wrote a

39:46book called Asking Why.

39:48Um I was able to get a copy of the book.

39:50Haven't read it. Started to read it yet,

39:51but um really just uh writes He's

39:54written

39:56literally thousands of articles for

39:57Forbes magazine and has is, you know,

40:00many shows, public TV appearances,

40:01things like that. He's He's one of the

40:03few people that that is at the

40:05intersection of economics and and

40:06education. Usually, it's one or the

40:08other, and I think that's where That was

40:11a unique um presentation.

40:13So, I will keep following that and keep

40:15you updated. Also, uh

40:17just happy but randomly I was invited to

40:20serve the State Department of Education

40:21reached out and asked if I would serve

40:23for an engagement focus group for the

40:25Connecticut Seal for Civics Education.

40:27[clears throat]

40:28So, we have the Seal of Biliteracy and a

40:29couple years ago they also endorsed that

40:32kids can get a seal for civics

40:33education. And it's if you're taking

40:35certain civics course or in a certain

40:36civics grade and then you do the civic

40:38engagement work associated with the

40:40class. As you know, we have our CIA

40:42class at the high school which is

40:43already longer than the half your state

40:45requirement. We require a year. And the

40:47students are always engaging in their

40:50citizenship in action projects. I know

40:52every year when they're doing them cuz I

40:53start to get letters about various

40:55things. Um

40:57and so I'll keep you

40:59up to date on that but I'm excited to to

41:00learn more about that work. Um also

41:03following very closely as we head into

41:05the education set session, the

41:06Governor's Blue Ribbon Commission on

41:08Education Funding and Accountability. Um

41:11we've all had this conversation now for

41:13several years that the state needs to

41:15contribute more than they currently do.

41:18Um something something as simple as the

41:19base aid formula uh that they use to

41:22calculate the per pupil expenditures

41:25that are coming to towns hasn't changed

41:27in over a decade and yet we know costs

41:28haven't stayed the same in a decade. And

41:30so I've always said that they right now

41:32the burden continually gets passed on to

41:34the local taxpayer because the state

41:36isn't funding its share. It's not It's

41:39not um It's not keeping up with the rate

41:41of inflation and the cost of of of doing

41:44education. So right now they have four

41:46focus groups. They have an education

41:47cost share focus group which is our

41:49largest grant. Um Are the components of

41:52the formula working as we intend to

41:54direct resources to the communities who

41:55need it most? I would argue that's

41:58debatable.

41:59Um

42:01Some wealthy communities get very little

42:03ECS and some not so wealthy communities

42:05get a lot of ECS and then there are many

42:07in between.

42:09Um Is the total set of education revenue

42:11and formulas directing resources to the

42:13communities who need it most and I would

42:15say absolutely not. The formula they use

42:17if you have students if you have a high

42:19multilingual population high free

42:21reduced lunch population high special

42:23needs population

42:24there should be weight associated to in

42:26the formula to those students to carry

42:28more funding with it. There's a special

42:30education working group

42:32through what approach and mechanism

42:33should the state fund special special

42:35education right now we know excess cost

42:38isn't the answer they've were

42:39underfunded consistently regardless of

42:42the legislation we're supposed to be

42:44getting 88%

42:46we've never got more than 74%

42:49and and even there it's based on four

42:52and a half times the per pupil

42:53expenditure so you think if you think

42:54about it like just how broken of a

42:56structural system it is if our

42:59per pupil expenditure goes up every year

43:01then the cost that it

43:03to get to reach that threshold of four

43:05and a half times per pupil expenditure

43:07goes up that much higher

43:09you get that much less reimbursement.

43:11So it's just just doesn't makes any

43:13sense. Can how can the state support

43:15districts in creative creating effective

43:17and efficient service delivery models

43:19and I think you know that high quality

43:20special ed grant that is one of the

43:22steps that they're doing trying to see

43:23what districts can stand up

43:26for special services and can see where

43:28it can be duplicated if it's effective.

43:31Choice who should bear the different

43:33costs and responsibilities of the choice

43:35system

43:36across sending school systems receiving

43:38school systems and the state. So things

43:41like magnet schools you know right now

43:42they're capped at 58%

43:45and then the towns get built 42% and

43:48there's no increase allowed by statute

43:50so since 20 for 24 they've not been able

43:52to raise their tuition even though

43:54they're not public schools as magnet

43:55schools

43:56they still have increased cost year over

43:57year too and so they're struggling and

44:00yet they can't increase the tuition

44:02to the local as

44:04you know or

44:05they don't get more than the 58% doesn't

44:07go up either. Lastly, the

44:09accountability. How can the state

44:11support districts to create operational

44:12efficiencies that free up resources?

44:15Stop passing mandates. Maybe just an

44:17idea.

44:18How can the state support and hold

44:20districts accountable for using

44:22resources in highest impact ways? And I

44:24think that's a very fair question and I

44:26feel like for example, they have the

44:27next generation accountability index

44:30where states are you know you are

44:32formulas that are associated to student

44:34performance, chronic absenteeism, access

44:36to arts courses,

44:38dual enrollment, ECE, AP credits, things

44:41like that. I think that's an area that

44:43they can put together something that's

44:44comprehensive that districts can you

44:46know, respond to. To show where the

44:48funds are going

44:49and how they're working. So, definitely

44:52going to keep following that. They have

44:53several more meetings over the next

44:54couple months. The goal is to have it

44:55wrapped up by January 17th. I'm sure

44:58it's to bring a set of recommendations

45:00to the governor's budget team so that he

45:02can consider what that may cost in the

45:04development and roll out of his budget

45:06in February.

45:08Next Saturday, we have music of the

45:10night. It's always a great time. I'm

45:12excited to see if it flows a little more

45:14smoothly with the additional parking

45:15now. And

45:17you know, I will be giving awards there

45:19at 4:45 and I know several of you signed

45:21up for the late evening awards around

45:228:30 I believe. So, thank you for that.

45:25And then lastly, the tennis court

45:26update. We're getting very close. The

45:28light poles are in. They Now we have to

45:30connect to the electrical system if you

45:32will to get that all activated. The top

45:34coat has been poured, the new fencing is

45:36down. A lot is fully finished. Just some

45:39cleanup areas around the drainage

45:41ravines and whatnot and then we should

45:42be just about complete. So, I would say

45:44we're probably about 95% there, but very

45:47excited about that project. It's really

45:48helped as you can you can tell the lot's

45:51already half full.

45:53>> [clears throat]

45:53>> And it only will fill up more as the

45:54juniors get their licenses throughout

45:56the course of the year. In fact,

45:57somebody got a license today I believe.

46:01>> [laughter]

46:02>> So, there may be another car coming to

46:04the high school.

46:05And she has a spot.

46:07>> [laughter]

46:07>> That concludes my report for this

46:09evening. Thank you.

46:09>> Any questions for the administration,

46:10Mr. Brown?

46:11>> Yeah, um I think one of our jobs is to

46:13be forward-thinking.

46:15And and this numbers you gave us about

46:18jobs in the future are frightening.

46:21Is

46:22have you had discussions about what we

46:24can do about that?

46:26>> So, that community of prac uh practice

46:28that I'm a

46:29uh part of with CAPS, that's the group

46:31we're working with right now. Um that's

46:33why I was able to get invited to this uh

46:35forum. And so, it is very much about

46:37that. One of the words right now, like

46:39the it's a buzzword, but it's an actual

46:40thing in industry-recognized

46:42credentials. So, what can kids come get

46:44out with that make them employable right

46:46away? The EMT course that we're offering

46:48at the high school right now, kids

46:49graduate and can be an EMT. You know,

46:52employable right out of school.

46:53>> Right.

46:53>> Uh that's an in-demand position. So,

46:55that's kind of what we've been trying to

46:57do is tee up certain avenues for kids.

47:00Um in the tech advisory group, they've

47:02talked about certain levels of OSHA

47:03certifications that the kids can earn

47:05and and uh test for so that when they're

47:07able to go right out onto job sites,

47:08they have some of that already in place.

47:11That makes them, you know, more

47:12appealing as well to uh to to employers

47:15and versus somebody just, you know, that

47:16they got to bring on board and

47:17apprentice for. Um obviously, there is

47:19college route and there there can be

47:21productive avenues for college. It's

47:23just I think it's a caution to not just

47:25enter be to enter, um

47:27given what we're starting to learn about

47:28the job force, the cost, the

47:29>> student debt associated with it and all

47:31that.

47:33>> Can I just follow up? I, you know, as

47:35the curriculum chair,

47:36um

47:37I think our teachers do a terrific job

47:39of being forward-looking in the

47:41curriculum. However,

47:43I think we need to do more of that. Take

47:45a look at overall to curriculum. Are

47:46there things that are not useful anymore

47:49and are there things we don't offer?

47:51And that's a huge thing to do, but

47:54the world's changing rapidly,

47:55>> Yeah.

47:56>> Yep.

47:56>> and our job is to get them ready for

47:58that world, so.

47:59>> I agree.

47:59>> Yeah.

48:00>> Mr. Bashewski.

48:01>> Um so,

48:02two points I want to make. Um

48:04it looks great. The tennis courts and

48:06everything else, like it's

48:08I'm I'm

48:10I wish it had been finished sooner, but

48:12it's I was driving by the other day,

48:14like it it looks awesome.

48:16Um

48:17my other comment that I wanted to say,

48:20and I I literally just had this

48:21conversation with my son, and

48:24I I don't think this is scary.

48:27You know, it's it's staggering

48:29as far as hiring and and what's coming,

48:32but um one of the things that I was

48:34talking about with my son, again,

48:36loving to look at history. So, the labor

48:39force in the United States was 52%

48:42agriculture in 1870,

48:4540% in 1900, 21% in 1930.

48:50Today in the 2000s, it's less than 2%.

48:53Now,

48:54that look at where

48:57we were,

48:58look at where we've come. Look at the

49:01what a car looks like from 1906 to 2026.

49:06Look at the fact that we can call people

49:09and immediately connect with them.

49:12>> [clears throat]

49:13>> This is going to be such a huge

49:14opportunity for our students, especially

49:17you know, from the DECA perspective,

49:19FBLA.

49:21>> All that.

49:21>> You're you're getting away from it

49:26All right, this is sort of a weird

49:28likeness, but um again, 30 years ago it

49:31was

49:32Anheuser-Busch, Budweiser, you know,

49:35like all these big

49:37beer brands. And then all of a sudden,

49:38now it turned into these like smaller

49:41smaller companies, right?

49:44That's what's going to happen to the

49:45corporate landscape pretty soon. And and

49:48I I really do believe that, because now

49:51one person, a kid could a business and

49:54now they have six employees and their

49:57little AI module that is doing the work

50:00of those six employees and now they're

50:02they're running a business. They're able

50:04to sell something. They're able to

50:05potentially then start manufacturing

50:07something by using CNC and programming

50:11things into

50:12how to build something out. So,

50:14>> One of the stats he gave was 84% of Gen

50:16Z students plan to own their own

50:18business.

50:19>> Yeah.

50:19>> Wow.

50:19>> Wow.

50:20>> And

50:21And And this is where, you know, again,

50:22like

50:23we have to change, guys. Like, the

50:26setting up a bunch of

50:28And again, I I relish in the amazing

50:31work that our teachers do, but again,

50:34like, we're going to be moving away

50:36from,

50:37you know, just desks in front of a

50:38classroom. Like, there's

50:42We have to get the kids out there. We

50:43have to get these experiences. You know,

50:45again, like, this is where I

50:47I am really excited

50:50>> Mhm.

50:50>> over the next decade. Like,

50:52these kids are going to have

50:53opportunities that

50:56I I I got my I'm excited for you guys.

50:59Just stay positive. You're going to get

51:01through it. There's a lot of people to

51:04to be able to help you along the way.

51:06So, this is

51:07>> for us is how do we help the students?

51:10>> And that's where we need the feedback.

51:11>> Yeah.

51:12>> You know, what are you guys seeing out

51:13in the real world? What are you guys

51:15starting to see in the high school

51:16setting? You know, what could be useful

51:18for curriculum?

51:20So, not to go off on a tangent, but, you

51:23know, this is

51:24>> Exciting time.

51:25>> It's a lot.

51:26>> Mr. Anastasia?

51:27>> I too had a question about the tennis

51:28courts. Are we on budget

51:30for the tennis courts?

51:32>> I believe so.

51:32>> You do?

51:33Is there a way

51:34>> I'd have to follow up to make sure.

51:36>> following up? Yeah, I'm just curious cuz

51:37we're How much we were supposed to be

51:38done how long ago?

51:40>> [clears throat]

51:40>> Uh it was we we would thought it would

51:42be mid to late September.

51:44>> Mid to late. And we're at almost mid

51:46October. So, could you get back to the

51:48board and find out for me there? Thank

51:49you.

51:50>> Can I just I just want to pick up on

51:52what what Joe said? I So, I'm one of

51:54those HR guys, right? I've been doing HR

51:56for a really, really long time.

51:59And watching, it seems like every few

52:01years the jobs that

52:03people are moving into didn't exist a

52:05few years before that. And I think it is

52:07an exciting time. It's So, don't get

52:09nervous, but be prepared. Think about

52:12what it is you want to do

52:13and long-term. One of the advantages of

52:15AI, and it is it it does take away you

52:18know there's there's risks of taking

52:19away some of the jobs, but it also does

52:21it takes away some of the stuff that

52:23takes a lot of time to get done and is

52:25not all that value-added, which gives

52:27people more time to do more creative,

52:29more exciting

52:31things. So, it is a little scary, um but

52:35but I also think it's not much different

52:37than every generation where every few

52:39years the jobs that are out there didn't

52:40exist

52:41just a few years before that. And and

52:44you talked about manufacturing.

52:46Manufacturing is not what manufacturing

52:47was. I I work for a company that has a

52:50ton of manufacturing sites, which is why

52:52I travel all the time. We have a lot of

52:53manufacturing sites around the US,

52:55Canada, Mexico, and will be around the

52:57world. And manufacturing is exciting,

53:00it's technological, it's high-tech. Uh

53:04people visualize manufacturing

53:05facilities as dark and dirty and oily

53:07and greasy. And there's still some of

53:08that, which is actually fun cuz that's

53:10where I started cuz it's kind of neat to

53:11actually walk in there and see that. But

53:13you're also now seeing guys that are

53:14running the machines and women that are

53:16running the machines, they're running

53:17programs. They're programming and

53:18they're putting out some really exciting

53:20technology in manufacturing, advanced

53:22manufacturing. So, exciting times,

53:25really exciting times. Take advantage of

53:27it, stay on top of it, and I think

53:28you'll go far.

53:30>> Yeah.

53:30>> Mrs. Carmody?

53:31>> Yes. Joe, I just would like to mention

53:34um

53:36being on curriculum for 100 years, okay?

53:39Uh

53:40And Bob can tell you and Don and Colleen

53:42[clears throat]

53:43>> Yeah. what they do at the high school.

53:45What they are offering

53:47>> I know you're not criticizing that. I

53:48know you weren't. I cuz I understand

53:50that. But the courses that they are

53:53offering these kids are

53:55as you know, unbelievable. Trying to

53:57meet the needs of society like the

54:00medical field.

54:02And I mean, cuz think of all the courses

54:04that they've come since we've been

54:05there.

54:06Unbelievable. So, they are really

54:09I think they are attuned to what the

54:11needs of the kids are.

54:12They're doing a great job at the high

54:14school. Trust me. They really are.

54:16>> All right.

54:17All right. We'll move on now to

54:19communications from the public on items

54:21that are agenda related. Is there

54:23anybody who'd like to speak on an agenda

54:24item this evening?

54:28Okay, seeing none, we will move on to

54:31committee reports. Mrs. Anastasia, you

54:32have the policy and personnel committee

54:34meeting.

54:34>> I think I'm the filling. Yeah, okay. Um

54:36revisions policy 3542.1,

54:40purposes and facilities food service

54:42were reviewed. Language was added to

54:44allow the board the right to send

54:45parental information information of any

54:48bad debt to a debt collection agency

54:49after June 30th

54:51of the current school year to collect

54:52any unpaid meal changes charges.

54:55In addition,

54:56all this language is in response to as

54:58of July 1st of this year 2026, the food

55:00service department can no longer cover

55:02bad debt and instead any negative

55:04balance must be paid by the Board of

55:06Education.

55:08Policy 4215, emergency action plan for

55:10athletic events was presented as a new

55:12policy. This plan delineates roles and

55:14responsibilities if a student sustains a

55:16serious injury or illness while

55:18participating in an interscholastic or

55:20intramural athletic event.

55:22Revisions to policy 5114,

55:26student discipline was reviewed.

55:28Two changes were

55:31uh additions of language. The first was

55:33found on page four and the word serious

55:35is in reference to physical harm. The

55:37second is found on page 18

55:39and is the addition of the words or

55:41second. This qualifier prompts the board

55:43to provide tutoring for a student

55:45expelled twice. This is historically

55:47consistent with Board of Ed practice.

55:51Revisions to policy 5123 and R 5123

55:54promotion and retention were reviewed.

55:56Adjustments to the policy [snorts]

55:58sustained collaboration with parents

56:00regarding placement or retention of a

56:01student. Um the final decision of a

56:03teacher grade and/or team lies with the

56:05principal. Associated regulations were

56:07updated to reflect the 25 credit

56:09requirement for graduation.

56:11Policy 5132 dress and grooming was

56:13reviewed with no changes noted. However,

56:15the regulations were updated based on

56:17work conducted by the high school

56:19administration

56:20and established constituent groups which

56:22began last year. New regulations clearly

56:24define acceptable attire for students.

56:28Policy 5141.8

56:30students with special health care needs

56:32was presented as a new policy.

56:35Although practices captured within are

56:36not new.

56:38This evidenced um was reviewed with

56:40regulation which is current working form

56:42used by nurses across the district at

56:44each level. No changes were made.

56:47Policy 5144.1

56:50physical restraint and seclusion of

56:51students and use of exclusionary timeout

56:54was reviewed and no changes were

56:55offered.

56:56The associated regulations were updated

56:58with slight language modification

57:00because of current legislation. The

57:02change shifts the attempt to contact a

57:04parent because of student restraint or

57:06seclusion from within 24 hours to an

57:08attempt immediately on the same day.

57:12Policy 6163 instructional resources for

57:14teachers live animals in classrooms was

57:17reviewed with no suggested changes.

57:19However, associated regulations are all

57:21new and define the role of service

57:23animals and service animal handlers

57:25within the school setting.

57:27An updated job description for high

57:29school department facilitator was

57:31reviewed. This role already exists in

57:33the teacher contract and is restricted

57:34to three departments, special education,

57:36math, and English. The descriptions

57:38offered accurately capture the current

57:40roles and responsibilities.

57:42Supervisor of deaf and education and

57:45audiology services were presented as a

57:47new job description. This is a role of a

57:50shift to contracted services, which

57:51created a gap in calibrating equipment,

57:53and it is more cost-effective to perform

57:56with related tasks in-house. The new job

57:58description captures the role and

58:00responsibilities which have evolved.

58:03The new job description for ag

58:05agriculture facilities assistant was

58:06presented. This additional position is

58:09directly linked to the new barn on

58:10Pleasant Street. The associated costs

58:12for the position were funded directly

58:14through the ag science grant. The

58:16committee also introduced to shipments

58:17policy model the use of private

58:19technology devices by student cab's

58:22model policy 5131.81

58:25personal technology use in schools.

58:27Joshua public school sample policy and

58:30Wallingford public school policy use the

58:32same 5131.81

58:34cellular phones electronic communication

58:36devices.

58:37The common thread for all these policies

58:39is to aim to mitigate the negative

58:40impact of unrestricted access to

58:42personal technology in school. The

58:45current practice including expectations

58:46process and associated discipline for

58:48each level in Southington was presented

58:50and discussed. The middle level practice

58:52has been in place for the last 3 years

58:54and the high school began a pilot

58:56program last year with full

58:58implementation this year.

59:00Essentially students cell phones pre-K

59:01through 8 are powered down during the

59:04entire school day including lunch and

59:05are out of sight. The high school allows

59:08cell phone usage during passing time,

59:10the second half of an 88-minute study

59:12hall block, and during lunch. Otherwise,

59:14cell phones are completely restricted.

59:16And the committee agreed to forward all

59:18of the agenda items to the full BOA for

59:20review.

59:21>> Okay. Thank you. Is there any Mrs.

59:24Clark?

59:24>> Yeah, I I just have a a question. I have

59:27a comment and a question.

59:29Um and

59:31thank you for the report.

59:32>> You're welcome.

59:32>> Um as Mrs. Carmody indicated earlier,

59:35she and I have been on the board you

59:36said 100 years?

59:38>> 100 about.

59:38>> Okay.

59:39>> Give or take.

59:40>> 80 years, but that's besides the point.

59:43Um

59:44and

59:45all the time that I have been on the

59:46board, there have been committees that

59:50people have been assigned to

59:52and we all have jobs or some of us work

59:55full-time, some of us own businesses and

59:57whatnot.

59:58And sometimes we can't get to meetings

1:00:02at a particular time. So, we show up.

1:00:04When we have a regular board meeting, it

1:00:06shows when we've arrived. So, or if we

1:00:10left early, it's noted in the minutes.

1:00:12So, I was just a little surprised when I

1:00:16saw these minutes and we have a new

1:00:19practice that I was unaware of. And it

1:00:22says members tardy.

1:00:24So, what got me thinking? Are we going

1:00:27to get

1:00:29a tardy notice? Are we going to get sent

1:00:32to the superintendent's office?

1:00:35I to me it sound a little uh I don't

1:00:38know, pejorative and I was just curious.

1:00:40Are we changing our practice? Are we

1:00:42showing tardies now? Is this what we're

1:00:44doing? Cuz I've never seen this on any

1:00:47in the 100 years I've been on the well,

1:00:4920 years. Yeah, that I've been on the

1:00:51board 100 years. I've never seen member

1:00:54tardy. And it just brought me back to

1:00:56high school and when I saw my children's

1:00:58report cards and there was, you know, if

1:01:00you get x amount of tardies, you get

1:01:02something. So, I'm just asking, is this

1:01:04a new practice that we have?

1:01:06>> Let me take a look at this, all right?

1:01:07And I'll get back to you on that.

1:01:08>> it just sounded a little bit, you know,

1:01:10we're all adults. We're all trying to do

1:01:12the best we can and it just it struck me

1:01:14as odd. So,

1:01:15>> Yeah.

1:01:15>> I just thought I'd bring it to your

1:01:16attention.

1:01:16>> look at that.

1:01:17>> Thank you. Appreciate that.

1:01:19>> Anybody else have any questions?

1:01:21Oh, Mr. Carson.

1:01:24>> I just have a question about the new

1:01:27agricultural facilities assistant. Um,

1:01:31obviously that's a brand new job

1:01:33description based on the barn.

1:01:36Um, the building of the barn over at

1:01:39DePalo.

1:01:40Um, on the agenda reporting form, um,

1:01:45the funding source

1:01:47is blank.

1:01:49And you indicated that it's part of

1:01:53that's being funded by the grant.

1:01:56>> Perkins is yes. Perkins.

1:01:58>> Okay. Okay. And then the second part of

1:02:00that question would be it's a non-union

1:02:03position. So do we have an assigned pay

1:02:07rate as part of that job description?

1:02:12>> Mr. Madancy, do you

1:02:14>> Grant source?

1:02:17>> The grant source, I believe maybe you

1:02:19said Perkins grant, but it's actually

1:02:21the agriculture science grant.

1:02:22>> AST, yeah.

1:02:23>> Science and technology grant, the AST

1:02:24grant.

1:02:25>> Okay. Okay. And

1:02:27And so do we know, um, a

1:02:31an FTE or a pay rate for

1:02:35that new role?

1:02:39>> It's not here.

1:02:40>> And for the job description that's going

1:02:42to be

1:02:42>> Oh, okay. Job description. Hang on. Let

1:02:44me get that.

1:02:45>> Because I don't see it as part of the

1:02:48reporting form. That's why I'm asking.

1:02:52>> No.

1:02:52>> Yeah.

1:02:52>> It is actually not. Approval of job

1:02:54description agriculture facility

1:02:55assistant.

1:02:56>> Yeah.

1:02:57>> on. Maybe it's on the second page.

1:02:59Whoops.

1:03:04It is a new position. It's a non-union

1:03:07>> Right.

1:03:08>> most likely hourly position. I It's

1:03:11mainly to work on the weekends and,

1:03:14um, after hours when the, um, teachers

1:03:18are not around and it would be targeting

1:03:21somebody who is interested in getting

1:03:23into that type of employment and like a

1:03:27stepping

1:03:28stepping stone.

1:03:29>> Yeah, I'm

1:03:30>> I can talk to Mr. McLaughlin to get that

1:03:31for you.

1:03:32>> Okay. Yeah, my concern is just kind of

1:03:34especially you know, one to to make sure

1:03:38that it's secured by grant funding and

1:03:41then obviously if we don't know the

1:03:45amount of hours or the hourly pay rate,

1:03:47how do we know that we have that funding

1:03:50secured by the grant?

1:03:53Thank you.

1:03:56>> All right, we'll get you that

1:03:57information.

1:04:00Anything else?

1:04:01>> Mr. Pischelsky?

1:04:02>> I just had a quick comment about the um

1:04:05the cell phone use and everything else.

1:04:06It was great to hear from the

1:04:08administration. Um as far as what

1:04:11they've been sort of in the lab testing

1:04:13out. Um

1:04:14and it's also been interesting to hear

1:04:17at this point the kids that have been uh

1:04:22having some level of uh I guess

1:04:24controlled use if you will um at the

1:04:27middle school levels and now that

1:04:28they're getting to high school um

1:04:30it was kind of neat to hear

1:04:33uh Mr. Arroyo and sort of weigh in on

1:04:35how that is. Well, you were at the

1:04:36meeting of course.

1:04:37Um but it was

1:04:39it was kind of nice. You know,

1:04:41even though

1:04:43it's

1:04:44there's a sort of like this demand for

1:04:46like well, you have to have like

1:04:47something in place just like anything

1:04:49else. It's changing, right? So, it's um

1:04:52I'm very pleased with the reports from

1:04:54them what we're currently doing.

1:04:57Interested to see how it continues to

1:04:59evolve.

1:04:59>> Yeah, I I thought it was a really good

1:05:00thing. The reason I wanted it on the

1:05:02agenda was so that the committee could

1:05:03talk. It's a it's a it's a big deal.

1:05:05>> Mhm.

1:05:05>> Right now, cell phones, technology, it's

1:05:07a big deal. Um but our district has been

1:05:10dealing with the big deal and I think

1:05:12it's really exciting that in elementary,

1:05:13they're gone.

1:05:14>> Mhm. In middle school, they're gone. But

1:05:16as you're getting into high school,

1:05:17you're now

1:05:19young adults. You're getting into that

1:05:20and it's that learning the progressive

1:05:22learning, as you said. Right? So, I know

1:05:24that in middle school I can't have it,

1:05:25but in high school, I have to learn how

1:05:27to use it. I I

1:05:28We're teaching

1:05:29>> responsibly.

1:05:30>> young adults to become responsible

1:05:32adults. So, I think that the way that

1:05:34Sue McCavage and then into Richard

1:05:35Royan, it they feed each other and it

1:05:37was it was a I thought it was a very

1:05:39good meeting and we agreed we were going

1:05:40to look at it, let it reevaluate it 6

1:05:43months, 8 months, see how it works. But

1:05:45so far, knock on wood, it's been working

1:05:47really well.

1:05:47>> Yeah, it has been working well, right?

1:05:50>> Yeah.

1:05:50>> And I'd like to thank Mr. O'Shaughnessy,

1:05:52who I invited to attend the meeting cuz,

1:05:53you know, it was a little bit of a

1:05:54controversial topic and I wanted to make

1:05:56sure we were all

1:05:57comfortable with it. And it went very

1:05:59nice. I think, you know, we all had very

1:06:00open and honest

1:06:01>> of great discussion.

1:06:02>> And it was a lot of great discussion.

1:06:03And it was it was nice hearing from Mr.

1:06:04Royan that it's not an issue and you

1:06:06guys can speak to it. It's not an issue

1:06:07at the high school.

1:06:08And everyone you know, pays attention to

1:06:10teachers, they listen to what they're

1:06:12being told. It's not an issue. And he

1:06:14said even at lunchtime, when you can

1:06:15have it, a lot of kids are intermingling

1:06:17with each other and you're not even on

1:06:19your cell phones, he was saying,

1:06:20correct? You guys are all catching up

1:06:22with the day and not on your phones. Is

1:06:24that that's the that's correct?

1:06:26>> And it's like nice that it's not bell to

1:06:28bell because then kids aren't tempted to

1:06:30think about it all class. So, even if

1:06:33like some kids aren't turning in,

1:06:34there's no there hasn't been any issues

1:06:36with kids going on their phone. So, it's

1:06:38virtually like good so far. Like what

1:06:40Mr. Royan was saying, there were no

1:06:41issues, so yeah.

1:06:43Good.

1:06:43>> Excellent. All right.

1:06:45>> Just one follow-up. We do have some

1:06:47numbers. It It is an hourly job, 15 to

1:06:4920 hours and the pay range is 20 to 25

1:06:52dollars per hour.

1:06:53>> Thank you, Mr. O'Shaughnessy.

1:06:54>> Thank you. That's what we have right

1:06:56now, even though it's not there. So, if

1:06:57for some reason it's different than what

1:06:59we have, then I'll follow up with you

1:07:00and let you know. But if not, then

1:07:01that's what it is.

1:07:03>> Thank you.

1:07:04>> All All Uh next we move on to the

1:07:06superintendent's report, the personnel

1:07:07report.

1:07:08>> Move to recommend the Board of Education

1:07:11approve the personnel report as uh

1:07:14submitted by the Human Resources

1:07:16Department.

1:07:16>> Second.

1:07:17>> Motion Mrs. Carmody, second by Mr.

1:07:19Rzepczynski. Any discussion?

1:07:21All in favor?

1:07:22>> Aye.

1:07:22>> Opposed? The motion passes unanimously.

1:07:25Old business, town government

1:07:26communications.

1:07:27>> I've none.

1:07:28>> Okay, neither do I. So, we will move on

1:07:29to new business. So, we have a couple of

1:07:32first reads.

1:07:33>> Mhm.

1:07:33>> Uh review of policy 35 42.1, purpose and

1:07:36facilities, uh food services. It's a

1:07:39revised first read. Review policy 4215,

1:07:43emergency action plan for athletic

1:07:44events. This is a new first read.

1:07:47Um review of policy 5114, student

1:07:50discipline, revised first read.

1:07:53Policy 5123, promotion and retention,

1:07:55revised first read.

1:07:57Revise uh review policy 5141.8,

1:08:00students with special health care needs.

1:08:01This is a new first read. So, if there's

1:08:04any as you're reading them, if there's

1:08:05any questions, reach out to Mrs.

1:08:06Anastasio and we will get some answers.

1:08:09And then we have some uh job

1:08:10descriptions for action this evening.

1:08:12>> Yes. Move that the Board of Education

1:08:13approve the job description presented by

1:08:15the administration as presented by the

1:08:17Policy and Personnel Committee.

1:08:19>> Second.

1:08:20>> Motion and a second, Mr. Rzepczynski.

1:08:21All in favor?

1:08:22>> Aye.

1:08:23>> Opposed?

1:08:24Motion passes.

1:08:26>> Move that the Board of Education approve

1:08:28job description for this um I messed up

1:08:31the first one, sorry. Uh supervisor of

1:08:32uh deaf education and audiology

1:08:34services.

1:08:35>> Second.

1:08:35>> As presented by the Policy and Personnel

1:08:37Committee.

1:08:38>> Second.

1:08:38>> Motion second by Mr. Brown. Um any

1:08:41discussion?

1:08:42All in favor?

1:08:43>> Aye.

1:08:43>> Opposed? Motion passes.

1:08:45>> Move that the Board of Education approve

1:08:47job description agriculture facilities

1:08:48assistant as presented by the Policy and

1:08:50Personnel Committee.

1:08:51>> Second.

1:08:52>> Motion second by Mr. Rzepczynski. Any

1:08:54discussion? All in favor?

1:08:56>> Aye.

1:08:57>> Opposed? Motion passes.

1:09:01>> We have a motion

1:09:02>> Motion added to the

1:09:03>> added to the agenda.

1:09:04>> Yeah, it was added to the agenda. Um

1:09:07>> student

1:09:07>> move uh

1:09:10for the expulsion of student 26 uh

1:09:132026-27-1

1:09:17uh

1:09:18for the calendar for the school year.

1:09:21>> Second.

1:09:22>> Can we have a motion uh for the student

1:09:24expulsion? Second by Mrs. uh motion by

1:09:27Mrs. Clark, second by Mrs. Carberry. Any

1:09:29discussion?

1:09:30All in favor?

1:09:31>> Aye.

1:09:32>> Opposed? The motion passes.

1:09:34>> Yeah.

1:09:34>> Um

1:09:368

1:09:370 with one abstention.

1:09:39Do the math in my head. All right, then

1:09:41we have public communications from the

1:09:43public on any item that is not agenda

1:09:45related. Is there anybody like to speak

1:09:47this evening on non-agenda related

1:09:49items?

1:09:50If you would come forward, state your

1:09:51name and address for the record.

1:10:05>> Hi.

1:10:06Um good evening. My name is Sheema Green

1:10:08and I live at 67 Memorial Drive.

1:10:11Um I want to begin by acknowledging the

1:10:13Board of Education member who publicly

1:10:15clarified his comments that were at the

1:10:17Flanders PTO meeting last week. I

1:10:19appreciate him taking the time to do

1:10:20that.

1:10:21However, a parent left that meeting with

1:10:23the understanding that Flanders had to

1:10:24close and that tells me there was a

1:10:26disconnect between what was communicated

1:10:28and what was understood. My concern is

1:10:30about the message families are taking

1:10:31away from those discussions.

1:10:33I'm also concerned about a statement

1:10:34another board member made on social

1:10:36media about the potential for a school

1:10:37to fall in such disrepair that the

1:10:39school closes with or without a new

1:10:41school. And that's a serious statement

1:10:43and I've not seen evidence presented to

1:10:44the community in any elementary school

1:10:46that any elementary school is at risk of

1:10:48closing

1:10:49due to disrepair regardless of this

1:10:51referendum.

1:10:52If that's a legitimate concern, the

1:10:54community needs to see the evidence.

1:10:55Statements like this can create fear and

1:10:57uncertainty when we what we are trying

1:10:59to look for are facts.

1:11:01I've not seen a clearly defined

1:11:02alternative plan with specific details,

1:11:04a timeline, an explanation of what

1:11:06happens if voters reject this proposal.

1:11:08I've seen numbers and financial

1:11:09projections, but those are not the same

1:11:11as a clear plan.

1:11:12The sheer number of unanswered questions

1:11:14in our community is concerning.

1:11:16Questions are expected with a decision

1:11:17this important, but families should not

1:11:18be left wondering what the future of

1:11:20their schools will look like under

1:11:21different scenarios. We need a clear

1:11:23comparison between what we have today

1:11:25and what our schools would look like if

1:11:26this referendum passes versus if it

1:11:27fails, including alternatives and the

1:11:29consequences of each outcome.

1:11:31Unfortunately, right now I don't feel

1:11:32that's happening.

1:11:34What's been most disappointing to me is

1:11:35not simply that we may disagree about

1:11:37the best plan for our schools.

1:11:38Disagreement is part of the process.

1:11:40What concerns me is that families still

1:11:42have important unanswered questions

1:11:44about the future of our schools. I

1:11:46support improving our school buildings,

1:11:47but supporting improvements does not

1:11:49mean we should stop questioning the

1:11:50plan.

1:11:51Until my questions remain unanswered

1:11:52about the future of our elementary

1:11:53schools, I believe we have a

1:11:55responsibility to keep asking until we

1:11:56understand the choices before us and

1:11:58their long-term consequences.

1:12:00As stated many times, I don't spend my

1:12:02evenings at these meetings because I

1:12:03have nothing else to do.

1:12:05I have a job and other responsibilities.

1:12:06I'm here because I do I do care about

1:12:08our schools and our children. Our

1:12:09elected officials have a responsibility

1:12:11to do more than present a plan and move

1:12:13forward. They must be willing to listen

1:12:15to the concerns of the families they

1:12:16represent, take those concerns

1:12:18seriously, and be open to considering

1:12:20whether there is a better way forward

1:12:21that truly serves the entire Southington

1:12:23community. We're watching and we're

1:12:25paying attention. We're listening,

1:12:26asking questions, and remembering how

1:12:28this process is being handled. And when

1:12:30it comes time to vote next year, we're

1:12:31going to remember who we believe truly

1:12:33put the best interests of our children

1:12:34first. Thank you.

1:12:36>> Thank you.

1:12:37Is there anybody else that would like to

1:12:38speak this evening?

1:12:42Okay, hearing none. Um we're looking for

1:12:44a motion to adjourn.

1:12:45>> So moved.

1:12:46>> Second.

1:12:47>> Motion and a second to adjourn. All in

1:12:48favor?

1:12:48>> Aye.

1:12:49>> Opposed? Motion passes.

1:12:54Um

1:13:00So