2026-10-06 - Town Council Special Meeting

00:12Uh Mid Grindelski, chair of the town

00:14council. I'll call this special meeting

00:16to order. Uh see for roll call. Um all

00:22are present and Jared is going to be

00:25online.

00:26Um

00:30>> [snorts]

00:35>> presentation from the historic Kley

00:37Historical Society.

00:40Come on up. [snorts]

00:49>> Oh, okay.

00:51[clears throat]

01:00My name is

01:05>> also the star.

01:08>> Just push that off.

01:10>> Yeah,

01:12>> just one one at a time.

01:16>> Shut yours off.

01:17>> Okay, you talk first.

01:18>> Yeah, but you shut yours.

01:19>> Yeah,

01:20>> he's on it now. My [laughter] name my

01:23name is Bernie Mitchell at 346 Buttonham

01:25Pike uh president of the Kinley

01:28Historical and Genealological Society

01:34>> and I'm in SM Road Davville Connecticut

01:41presentation is to more or less

01:44celebrate the 150th birthday of this

01:46building. We have uh the large picture

01:49is the

01:52the architect's rendition of what the

01:55building was going to look like when it

01:56was built in 1876.

02:02>> The architect's ren at that time

02:05>> and it was going to be the Kinley

02:08Music Hall.

02:10>> It was going Oh yeah.

02:11>> Yeah. When it was built when it was

02:13going to be built. And the uh the other

02:15pictures here is this one here is a

02:18later date after it became the town hall

02:21in 1906.

02:24And you can see the words town hall

02:26engraved in the lentil over the main

02:28door. But there are still businesses up

02:33front shops at that time. And I think to

02:37the best that we've been able to

02:38establish, they lasted till about the

02:411920s.

02:42and then the shops disappeared.

02:45Okay. But it's we felt relevant because

02:51it is, you know, a 150th, you know,

02:56anniversary of this building. Next year

02:58wouldn't have been as appropriate. And

03:01this

03:03>> Yeah. This is a a small history of the

03:07uh the building along with a very small

03:12sampling of the businesses that were

03:13here.

03:16And our hope is that

03:19the town will

03:22hang these worthy pictures somewhere

03:26and everybody can see.

03:28This is your history.

03:32It really is.

03:33>> Nice job.

03:34>> Was it So for the 30 years from um 76

03:37to06, was it a music hall?

03:39>> Yes,

03:40>> it was for 30 years.

03:41>> Yeah.

03:42>> Um

03:42>> the music hall was on the third floor

03:46>> and it was businesses on the in the

03:48basement plus the courthouse and the

03:50jail cell and first and second floor was

03:54businesses.

03:56>> Yeah. Just for sure.

03:58>> Wasn't there a boxing ring or something

04:00here too?

04:02fourth floor. Okay, I knew that's what

04:03they're saying.

04:04>> It seated 800 people

04:07>> inside this music hall. Can you imagine?

04:09>> 800

04:10>> 800 people. That's what the records are

04:14here. Okay.

04:16>> And [laughter]

04:16it says here when a person John Boff

04:19lectured in there, there were a thousand

04:21people in it.

04:23>> Wow.

04:24>> I don't know how they did it, but they

04:26did. And yeah, it's

04:30it's a very interesting history of this

04:33building.

04:34>> Do you have a list of the things that

04:36went on here besides the shops? We know

04:39about the boxing ring, but there was a

04:41basketball hole park here for a

04:44basketball court.

04:45>> There was Okay. In the rear Yep.

04:49>> In the rear of the basement in the court

04:52was a courtroom and a lockup for the

04:54borrower. That's apparently where they

04:56took all the bad people. Okay.

04:58[laughter]

05:00The ground floor in front is occupied by

05:02a post office and on one side is Miss

05:06Law's Millinary Store on the other side.

05:09That's the original when it came in

05:12originally, right? And the stores

05:13changed a little bit after that.

05:16>> Not sure on this one what it was. Uh

05:23we're not quite sure. There are some

05:25signs, you know, you can see

05:27>> there was a meat market for a while and

05:29a

05:30>> Yeah.

05:30>> a casket

05:32salesman.

05:34>> Wow. So, it's

05:37it's a beautiful building.

05:39>> And

05:40>> we we do like reusing our buildings.

05:43>> Yes.

05:44>> I think the uh I came across a little

05:46article in an old uh transcript. I think

05:50there was two or three guys got together

05:54and they were part of the the building

05:57was used as a a gymnasium,

06:00>> right?

06:01>> But I don't remember what floor it was

06:02on.

06:04>> First floor had a dancing studio at one

06:06time,

06:07>> was it? Yeah. Well, about 30 years there

06:10was a lot of businesses. Like I say, the

06:12first basement, first and second floor

06:14was all businesses. There was a bank in

06:16here and everything.

06:18>> Yeah. For a while before we moved, the

06:22historic society was in the basement.

06:25They kept all their stuff there until

06:28finally we got that other building where

06:30we are today. So, it's history, folks.

06:36I give them to you, Brian. Sure.

06:42Thank you.

06:42>> I'll get them hung up tomorrow.

06:44>> Yeah.

06:46>> Thank you.

06:48Thank you for putting that all together.

06:50That that's beautiful.

06:52>> Ideally,

06:54personally, it would be nice to come

06:56along in the section,

06:59>> you know, downstairs to the left because

07:03people look

07:11>> Thank you very much. It was, you know,

07:13[applause]

07:15we got to expose what we had in the past

07:17here. So it's good that this is a

07:19totally different type of building use.

07:20So

07:23>> keep that for another 50 years.

07:29>> Next on the agenda, interviews, board

07:31and commission applicants.

07:33Renee Lalt. Is that how we pronounce it?

07:37>> Yeah, Rainey.

07:39>> Rainey. Okay. [laughter]

07:42>> So we saw you last night sitting over

07:44here.

07:44>> I'm back. You were moved up from an

07:47alternate to a regular member last

07:48night. Now we're looking to make you a

07:51permanent regular member.

07:52>> Yes. An official. Uh yes.

07:54>> So it's a interesting um chain of events

07:59and um but you've been active on the

08:01commission.

08:02>> Yes.

08:03>> Which and we've had some high-end

08:06applications.

08:07>> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] uh since I've

08:09joined it's there's been a few firsts I

08:11want to say or at least uh you know I

08:13joined and immediately went into the

08:14first I think aquaer protection meeting

08:16in a few years so I you know I got my

08:19experience with that but yeah obviously

08:21there's a big one uh we've been going

08:22through for a while now but yeah

08:25>> and we're glad that you are wanting to

08:28stay on and move to a regular we

08:30appreciate that because it's hard to

08:32find people for our boards and

08:34commissions so staying in there that's a

08:37good thing Appreciate that.

08:38>> Yeah.

08:39>> Any comments from the Oh,

08:44y

08:45>> just that you you've already been broken

08:47in. [laughter]

08:49>> Yes.

08:49>> You know what you're walking into.

08:52>> Yeah, I do it for my day job. So, I was

08:54like, I can't get enough. Let me do it.

08:57>> So, thank you for for stepping up. I you

09:00you are doing a good job. I've been

09:02coming to the meetings now since um

09:04January. So,

09:05>> Yep. Thank you.

09:08Well, even as an alternate when you

09:10couldn't vote, you were engaged from the

09:11the meetings that I've been, a few that

09:13I've been on. So, you've been active.

09:16You've been there. Maybe you couldn't

09:17vote, but you've been a very active

09:20participant. So, that's appreciate that.

09:23>> I try to be I hope that's okay, you

09:24know.

09:25>> No, it's fine. That's what we That's

09:26what we need to have that. Yes. Yes.

09:31>> That's how you learn.

09:32>> Yeah.

09:35>> Any other comments? No. Do you have any

09:37questions for us?

09:39>> Nope. Um, you know, like Ed said, I've

09:41I've been in alternate for a little over

09:43a year now. Um, I want to say I think it

09:45was a little over a year now, but um,

09:47yeah, my term for alternate was actually

09:49just just coming up due anyway to renew

09:52and spot opened up. So, um, familiar

09:55enough with the process at this point.

09:57Um, you know, like I said, I my day job

10:00is um in freshwater permitting, so I get

10:03to do this double duty and yeah, it's

10:07hopefully I can help out and be a good

10:09>> Some of the site walks are very helpful.

10:12>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'd do more if

10:16we could just because one, I like

10:17getting out there, but um you know, for

10:20some sites it's it's obviously pretty

10:21straightforward from plans, but it's

10:23it's immensely important for the

10:25difference between looking on a site

10:26plan and and walking it and knowing what

10:28you're looking at.

10:30>> Well, I thank you for stepping up.

10:34>> Is there any ways like can we give more

10:38support to help things out? I don't know

10:40how we can You're sitting here in a

10:42different light. I'm sitting there, you

10:43know, it's a whole different scenario.

10:45Um,

10:48to make things go easier,

10:51I don't know what we can can we do

10:53anything. I don't know.

10:54>> I mean, you know, I think it's um, you

10:56know, obviously in light of the one

10:59we've been re reviewing for the last

11:00almost year now since January. Um,

11:03that's that's a lot of just like a lot

11:04of documents and going through stuff,

11:06but the normal process it's pretty

11:08straightforward. um you know working

11:10with Jonathan and I know he's going to

11:12be shifting soon and stuff like that but

11:14we get our notifications pretty heads up

11:17early on and everything goes pretty

11:19smoothly from what I understand we have

11:20a good crew uh good rapport among the

11:23commission we communicate well I think

11:26it's good and then you know we see some

11:28of you around regularly enough that we

11:30stay in contact I think from from my

11:33limited experience with it all I think

11:35it's working pretty pretty well

11:38Okay.

11:39>> Regular job.

11:41>> Uh so I work uh in Rhode Island uh for

11:44department of environmental management.

11:45So I'm in the freshwater wetlands

11:47program for the state of Rhode Island

11:49>> for preservation.

11:51>> Uh so it's a permitting program for

11:52wetlands. So I do the exact same thing.

11:54Basically people in Rhode Island, we

11:56have one state program as opposed to

11:58killingly having our commission and deep

12:00setting the rules and rags. Uh, in Rhode

12:02Island, DEM sets the rules and regs and

12:05we have one program because Rhode

12:06Island's small enough that we have

12:09myself and I think nine other eight

12:11other people now. Um, we review all the

12:14applications that come in, go out on our

12:16site, walks, walk everywhere and uh and

12:18review and permit these projects. So,

12:20this is literally right in my wheelhouse

12:22as far as

12:22>> So, once you do that, you make a formal

12:24recommendation to who?

12:26>> Uh, it'd be my supervisor at my work. Um

12:29there's three of them and and they'll

12:30sign off on the letters. We'll stamp the

12:32site plans. Very similar to how things

12:34work here.

12:35>> So how are the towns involved

12:38>> in Rhode Island?

12:38>> Yeah.

12:39>> Um we notify them or they'll notify

12:41applicants. Uh so sometimes it's it kind

12:43of works. It kind of works like this

12:45where like if a town in Rhode Island, if

12:47an applicant wants to build something,

12:49>> they'll go to their local town uh

12:51meeting for their planning zoning and

12:53say, "We want to build this subdivision.

12:54We want to do this to our house. We want

12:56to do whatever." And a lot of times the

12:57towns will say there's wetlands close

12:59enough you got to go to dem you know uh

13:02here it's handinand right if someone's

13:04coming to the building for PNZ to say I

13:06want to do this they'll also say you

13:08have wetlands we're slotting you into

13:10wetlands as well

13:12>> so we're just kind of a statewide

13:14program version of what we do here in

13:16the town.

13:17>> Yeah.

13:17>> Thank you.

13:18>> Maybe a comment with being in your

13:20position in Rhode Island. Were you

13:23engaged anything with Old Killingly Pond

13:25from that side?

13:26>> We you know what's funny is not I

13:28haven't heard much uh really for the

13:30Gloucester side of Oakley Pond for a lot

13:32of the management over there. Um

13:34sometimes it depends with Rhode Island

13:36on who manages that pond. Um depends on

13:39where the dam is. Uh there is a dam

13:41safety person in a different program

13:43than I'm in in wetlands over there. Um

13:47but no I oddly enough

13:48>> but it was just funny. you know, you're

13:50sitting here

13:51>> and that's an issue, but you could also

13:53be on your regular job

13:54>> over there. [laughter] Yeah. Uh,

13:56surprisingly, it has not come across my

13:58desk uh in my program, but I'm sure

14:01somebody else has been [laughter]

14:02hearing it.

14:03>> Yeah.

14:05>> Well, thank you for staying on board and

14:07we will ne we will discuss it at next

14:10week's meeting. Thank you.

14:12>> Thank you all very much.

14:20Ken Dietro, come on up.

14:24You could have sat in the front row

14:25seat, but that's okay. A little longer

14:27walk to get up there, but

14:29>> Good evening.

14:33>> We're glad you put your name in for the

14:35WPCA. Uh we've been looking to fill that

14:38position for a while. as you know, uh,

14:41well, you went through one meeting, but

14:43it it's a a long process and, uh,

14:49I'd like to see it moving a little bit

14:50faster, but again, depending on the

14:53people on the board, that's that's

14:55hopefully it'll move along and you will

14:59jump right in there. [laughter]

15:03>> [clears throat]

15:03>> Um,

15:06do you have any questions that we can

15:09help you with or I you know?

15:12>> Well, they were kind enough to even give

15:13me one of the documents they were

15:14talking about that night.

15:16>> Oh,

15:18>> which one?

15:18>> The bottom.

15:19>> Is it on now? I can hear it.

15:21>> So, they were doc uh kind enough to give

15:23me one of the documents, the technicals

15:25in that and trying to understand all the

15:27language. It's going to be a growing

15:28process. Um the big gestalt of it is um

15:33you know interesting and uh my two

15:37months of serving as an interim made me

15:40connect to the town number the police

15:43and everyone else. So when I saw the

15:45sign and I talked to the town manager he

15:48said we could choose people on board. I

15:50said which one would you recommend? He

15:51said well we could always use one on uh

15:54this Christian.

15:54>> So we can blame him if whatever is going

15:57on. Okay. All right. um

16:00>> wanted to go on planning and zoning. But

16:02[laughter]

16:04>> yeah, I I I just think it's fascinating

16:06because even in the short meeting, you

16:08can hear how the the people who are

16:11coming to to speak, they're concerned

16:13because unless you can manage water

16:16waste treatment and allow more

16:18businesses, that's part of the finances

16:20of the district, you know, the growth.

16:22And if people can't build their homes or

16:25have that, it short it creates a

16:27short-sightedness for the development of

16:29your own community. So it's really

16:31integral to everything. It's not the

16:33choice opportunity for people. Oh yeah,

16:35that's my passion. I don't know that

16:37yet. [laughter] But um I usually will if

16:42I get into anything, I usually will

16:43bring my own energy to at least

16:45understand the process, what's going on.

16:47Um, how can we hear everybody's concern

16:51and still move the move it forward to

16:54get the job done? I know that they said

16:55there's almost about two years before

16:57they can realize the new phase that

16:59they're trying to get into and

17:00everybody's anxious. Oh my god, that

17:02seems so long. There's a lot of

17:04technical steps to get

17:06>> to the right decision.

17:08>> Yeah.

17:08>> I mean, you've definitely had your share

17:11of building projects and as your job as

17:14an as a superintendent. I mean from even

17:17from as an assistant super one of the

17:19first jobs I had was when I was in Cland

17:22that was over 30 years ago. But the the

17:25water that would come out of the school

17:27went into a masher before it could get

17:28into the the ground and be so that it

17:30could be dispersed and stuff like that.

17:32And my one of the jobs I had is they had

17:35to I didn't but they had to test the

17:37water. Have to send it to the state. It

17:39came back. You had to see what the

17:40bacteria levels were and I had to make

17:42sure the numbers. I went I didn't I

17:44didn't know this was in the job

17:45description, but you know, it's all part

17:47of the job. You were going to ask

17:48something.

17:49>> Yeah.

17:51>> Well, the probably the most important

17:54thing is to keep the public informed

17:56about what's going on. To that end, we

17:59would really encourage having your

18:01meetings here so they can be televised

18:05and so the the the public at large can

18:07understand where we're going, why it's

18:10so necessary,

18:12and to move it forward. So, you reviewed

18:15the three different uh

18:18opportunities to enlarge the plant.

18:22>> Uh to the first question, I'm really

18:25glad to hear it's going to be here.

18:27Well, no.

18:28>> You've got to make it. Come here.

18:30>> Oh, who has to? I'm on an ultimate,

18:32right? [laughter]

18:34I I don't even

18:36You have to tell everybody not to come

18:37so I could vote. [laughter]

18:39>> It only takes one horse.

18:40>> It would it would be my pleasure to see

18:42it here. But it's a beautiful facility

18:44and you know they're good people. These

18:46were hard working people. You could see

18:48how many years that they brought the the

18:50information that they brought. That's a

18:51great team that much. I have that a lot

18:54of respect for them. five o'clock,

18:56right? During supper time, you're at

18:57that plants. You know what I'm saying?

18:59Town would be nicer to do that. Um I

19:02think anything that you can do to let

19:03people realize

19:05um what is what is being worked on and

19:09how it relates to the other things. If

19:11I'm a businessman, I really care care

19:14about um my relationship with the town,

19:17my my profit, everything else unless I

19:19see its impact and how it's going to

19:21serve me, not, you know, impugn or or

19:24hinder my ability. I I live in Zidora

19:28Heights. I'm on a well and I have my own

19:31septic system. I'm pretty much separated

19:34from you, but everything you do is

19:35either going to affect my taxes or it's

19:37going to affect uh water cleanliness.

19:40Now they're looking at, you know, PAS in

19:41the water. You know, everything affects

19:44everybody. And when people don't know

19:45that and you have a meeting that's in a

19:48a plant, I'm not going to run there to

19:51go and sit in a meeting, I think. But if

19:52you if you think about where you can

19:54make it and how you get the meetings to

19:57be seen and letting people know the

19:59important topics that are being I think

20:01that that would be a great way just to

20:03create the communication to get people

20:05involved. Not so much they want to stop

20:07it, but that they want to support it

20:09when it when their time comes to say

20:10yes. It's a very expensive process

20:12you're getting into. These are plants

20:15are not inexpensive. I mean, that's

20:17right. They're not inexpensive. Double

20:19negative.

20:23>> Any other comments?

20:25>> I'm just going to piggyback off of Mr.

20:27Griffith that um you can still use your

20:30voice to get them to have the the

20:32meeting in the town hall because they

20:34say, "Oh, it's just one meeting." Well,

20:36there's a lot of Oh, just one meetings

20:37that go around on during the month.

20:39[snorts]

20:40And I work on Wednesday, so I was able

20:43to watch the the meeting on um the

20:46YouTube.

20:47>> Yeah.

20:48>> So, that is another way to get more

20:50public participation.

20:52>> Yeah. And I I don't know enough yet. I'

20:54I've been attended one meeting. This is

20:55very new to me. I'm willing to do the

20:57work. I I don't have vast experience.

21:02Uh, Reinie, now that's that's a good I

21:04mean, you're talking to someone who does

21:05it all day and can come in and

21:07contribute. [laughter] That's a catch. I

21:08mean, that's wonderful. Congratulations,

21:10buddy. Um, but I think that, you know,

21:13as long as they're open to just the

21:15ideas like uh I don't know if they tape

21:19all the meetings or if they run them at

21:20off sk off um off schedule. So, someone

21:24when someone might be interested. I

21:26don't know if at 5:00 I want to sit and

21:27watch a meeting. I mean, 7 o'clock I

21:29might stay at home and watch it. 5:00

21:31during supper, might not. So, I don't

21:33know if those options are available. Um,

21:35or if there's any technical ability

21:37where they could streamline it and hit

21:39some high points and just do a summary.

21:41>> Well, if it it was recorded here, you

21:43could watch it at any time.

21:44>> See, that's great. That there's merit to

21:47that. And when you're into the middle of

21:50a lot of work, either you think

21:53everybody knows how hard we're working

21:56or maybe it's not important. But it's

21:57not only those people who learn things

21:59and hear about it eventually get very

22:02interested and they they will know that

22:06every every decision you're making in

22:08the town has to relate to the other

22:10rests of the system. Nothing is in

22:12isolation. Wherever you're going to put

22:13your next dollar has to be able to

22:15affect you know this district moving

22:18forward. And um I think their job is

22:21extremely important. I hear some of the

22:23limitations. They have moratoriums right

22:24now because they feel that they're not

22:26at max but that they're approaching and

22:28they can't just open the floodgates

22:30because they'll over overwhelm the

22:32current system and as much as that went

22:34into make that system effective it's

22:36already looking like there needs to be

22:37something else depending on the growth

22:39depending on the needs and you know so

22:41there's a I learned a lot in just one

22:43meeting. Well, there's a that's why I

22:45say a lot there's a lot going on down

22:47there and there is a lot

22:49>> it's sort of hidden down there because

22:51for the most part there there's been

22:53people citizens have come forward but

22:56normally there's no one from the outside

22:58other than the commission members maybe

23:01the town manager and myself and outside

23:05of that so you were there that was an

23:09anomaly there were that many people

23:10there that night [laughter]

23:12>> I was impressed you know so that's five

23:14people there.

23:15>> I wish we had that that much

23:17participation at every meeting, but I

23:19encourage I I want the public

23:21participation. So, but they have to show

23:24up.

23:25>> Yep.

23:26>> Well, I'm glad uh you came forward.

23:30Appreciate it. And uh we'll discuss your

23:33your um appointment next week.

23:36>> Okay. Um

23:38>> if you have any other comments for us,

23:39you know, throw it. I know there's a

23:41swearing in if if it is done, right?

23:43That has to you have to swear in for the

23:44position, correct?

23:46>> Yes.

23:46>> Okay.

23:47>> And and the next meeting of Listen, they

23:50may not need an alternate for a while.

23:51So, the next meeting is what? The second

23:53Wednesday of the month or

23:54>> the third Wednesday.

23:55>> Third Wednesday.

23:56>> Okay. So, I'm not worried about it when

23:59you let me know what your decision. Um

24:03>> I I will say, you know, thanks even for

24:05the opportunity. I I learned more by

24:07just the process of getting involved and

24:09and um applying just like when you guys

24:13invited the whole school just to meet

24:15informally at the beginning of the

24:16summer. I was the only one who came

24:17there because I was the only one

24:18available and I was brand new but I got

24:20to meet half a dozen of you and your

24:22passion that you bring there and the

24:24stories that you have and the

24:26connections that you have with the

24:27school were great for me. I I was in on

24:30board three weeks and I I was hearing

24:32wow like this much you know has been

24:34happening. So I didn't know that as a as

24:37a resident I didn't know how well some

24:40of you are just really connected. So and

24:43yes I will make pilis.

24:46>> How did you know I was thinking of

24:47>> yeah well well I heard anyways well

24:50listen thank you very much for tonight.

24:53>> Thank you.

24:54>> I'll wait for your call.

24:55>> Okay.

24:57[clears throat]

25:05Nicknus Lenahan

25:13looking to be appointed to the public

25:15safety commission.

25:16>> Yes, sir.

25:17>> We Yeah, we have a lot of vacancies

25:19there. [laughter]

25:20>> Kind of a get in where I fit in kind of

25:22guy. So, I saw there was an opportunity.

25:24you guys obviously need some help there

25:25and so I figured I'd uh

25:27>> So why did you choose that? How or how

25:29did you get to make to put your name in

25:32for that commission? What was your what

25:34was the incentive to come forward?

25:36>> I I was walking down the street and I

25:38saw the the sandwich board out front and

25:41I was like inside. uh we just moved to

25:44the area and you know I'm prior military

25:46you know did five years in Iraq and

25:48Afghanistan and uh you know I always

25:51have wanted to kind of get involved and

25:52this is kind of the first scenario where

25:54I've actually been able to put down some

25:56roots and not have to bounce around so

25:58much. So you know just wanted to kind of

26:02see where I could contribute. So

26:04>> that's good because you know you're

26:05looking at how people see what we're

26:07look because we always have inside the

26:08building we have vacancies on almost

26:10every board and commission. So, we're

26:12trying to How did you you the person the

26:15person that we're talking to, how did

26:17they get that information, you know? So,

26:20the ping outside that was great.

26:22>> Yeah. No, I I I just was walking by and

26:25it caught my eye and I was like, I walk

26:27in, you know, me and Brian talked for a

26:29few minutes and, you know, I was

26:31literally just out to get some gas and

26:33stuff for my I was mowing the grass and

26:35stuff. [laughter]

26:37>> Did you get stuff in here? Yeah, I think

26:40I had to use the ATM or something and I

26:42saw it and I was like, you know, I was

26:44shorts and shirt and I had just been

26:46covered in dirt and, you know, mowing

26:48the grass. So, yeah. No, saw it as an

26:50opportunity.

26:51>> Now, if we can find two more, then we

26:54can have a meeting.

26:55>> Well, I told my wife about it and she

26:58was like, "Oh, you know, ask them about,

27:00you know, civilian police academy and

27:02stuff." We She used to do that back in

27:04uh Texas with us, so you know, she might

27:07be trying to get involved, too. So, who

27:08knows?

27:09>> Because I've been trying for months and

27:12I haven't had very much luck at all.

27:14>> Well, I know a couple people since I've

27:16been here and, you know, I could talk to

27:17some people and see if there's uh, you

27:19know, some interest, right? So,

27:21>> I'd appreciate it.

27:22>> Yeah, no problem.

27:23>> I would, too. I'd love to see some

27:24energy get put behind the uh the safety

27:26of the town. That's a big thing for me.

27:28Yeah, I mean in my current role, you

27:31know, I work for Kenworth uh in the

27:32trucking industry and, you know, common

27:35sense, you know, just solve the problem,

27:39you know, do what we can to be vocal and

27:41and drive impact. That's really all that

27:43that we're going for. And you'd be

27:45surprised at how much that applies to

27:47pretty much any facet of your life,

27:49right? So,

27:51>> we actually have uh openings for a

27:53police officer if you'd rather do that.

27:54[laughter]

27:57>> Not happening. So, you come to the table

27:59and you're going to get more than you

28:01get in, [laughter] but that's not where

28:02I fit in.

28:04>> Actually, there are uh we do have two

28:06other members of the public safety

28:08commission. So, if Nicholas gets

28:09appointed, we'll we will have a quorum

28:11and uh be able to meet, but there are

28:13two more spots. So, if you know other

28:15people that are interested, they can

28:18consider coming on and uh that would

28:19probably be involved. So,

28:21>> great.

28:24>> Any other comments from council members?

28:28Are you the public?

28:33>> Are you the

28:36>> Oh, who's the le liaison? I don't know.

28:39I don't know who that

28:40>> I don't think we have an leazison.

28:42>> Well, we don't have a

28:43>> Well, we don't

28:45met in like five years. So,

28:47>> Oh my goodness.

28:47>> Yeah. So,

28:49>> we're trying to get people to come on

28:51board. We get some and then we still

28:53can't fill that scenario. So, we

28:55appreciate

28:57You're you're coming forward. No

28:59question.

28:59>> Your willingness to entice me is uh

29:02scaring me a lot.

29:05>> Well, you're you're coming on at a at a

29:07good time. Uh the commission hasn't met

29:09in a while, but we recently um received

29:11our certification where we can now

29:13pursue having an independent police

29:15department.

29:16>> Great.

29:16>> So, our current program is we have

29:18constables that are supervised under the

29:20resident state trooper. But now with

29:22that certification, we can pursue, you

29:24know, through budget and adding manpower

29:26and structure um an independent police

29:29department, which would take, you know,

29:30it'll take years to get there from here.

29:32But that commission will be involved in

29:34in doing that work.

29:36>> You guys, uh, the commission also deals

29:37with fire.

29:39>> Well, we have,

29:41>> sorry, my mic went off. Um, we don't

29:43deal directly with fire right now

29:45because there's actually six um,

29:47separate taxing districts for fire

29:49departments in town. So they each kind

29:51of do their own thing and they don't

29:52really um fall under our government

29:54structure directly. So it is primarily

29:56you know the police department.

29:58>> Okay.

30:00>> I would volunteer for liazison for that

30:02if they start meeting

30:04>> the um as as a former member of public

30:07safety before I got on council. Um uh

30:11they they used to have all the different

30:14fire, ambulance, police um just kind of

30:17and then at one point we started working

30:19more towards almost like the the broad

30:22range public safety like car seat cl you

30:25know car seat safety things and and you

30:29know scams and how to help the elderly

30:32avoid you know and and then just

30:36you know people got tired and you you

30:39know, it's it's it can be a lot of work.

30:41I mean, there's a lot of bad people out

30:43there. Um, if you've been in the

30:45military, you you know all probably

30:48better than most

30:49>> familiar

30:50>> that, you know, there's a there's a lot

30:51of people out there looking to take

30:53advantage of people and and you know,

30:57it's nice to be able to have rosecolored

30:59glasses on, but as somebody that grew up

31:02in the fire fire station with my dad and

31:05my grandparents,

31:07um, yeah, I know people are not nice.

31:10And so there there's there's a side of

31:13our society that most people aren't

31:14aware of and that's probably a good

31:16thing, but we have to make sure we keep

31:20public safety is a huge is a huge

31:22factor, particularly if you're looking

31:24to spurn um encourage economic growth.

31:28>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's also another

31:29thing. You know, I saw you guys were

31:30having that uh that new grant uh program

31:34uh with the the corridor uh coming up

31:36for you know economic growth and you

31:39know I see that as a potential you know

31:44way for us to assist each other. I you

31:46know I work in retail um economic growth

31:50is one of the the big things I do for my

31:52work right now. So hopefully, you know,

31:54they kind of blend together and we all

31:55can, you know, kind of work together to

31:57achieve what we're kind of looking

31:59after.

32:02>> Make sure the forgotten the forgotten

32:04quiet corner isn't quite so quiet

32:06anymore.

32:07>> I can use a little chirping. I don't

32:09need I don't need to be [laughter] too

32:10loud. Yeah.

32:12>> No, no loud speakers, but yeah, we're

32:14we're not

32:15>> little buzz, little hum. Yeah.

32:17>> So,

32:18>> any other comments?

32:22Thanks for coming forward and we will

32:24discuss your appointment at next month's

32:27next week's meeting.

32:28>> All right. Thank you, sir.

32:29>> Thank you.

32:38>> Next on the agenda are citizen

32:39statements and petitions. But only

32:42comments can be I don't know what we can

32:45comment on really would be the

32:47historical society presentation and the

32:50members who came forward to be appointed

32:53to boards and commissions. So we're

32:55limited on this month's meeting as to

32:58public participation, but you're welcome

33:01to come up on those subjects.

33:09Let's see if I stick to the [laughter]

33:12script. Um, well, I appreciate folks

33:14coming forward. I know it's uh it's uh,

33:18you know, three capable candidates it

33:19looks like and uh, you know, some of all

33:23important

33:25uh, important work. Um, sometimes, you

33:28know, sometimes might seem a little

33:31thankless, but it is is is very

33:32important. So, appreciate everybody

33:34coming forward on that and and the

33:35historical stuff is is fantastic. Um,

33:41I guess I'll um

33:44there's nothing else here. Okay. Um,

33:48the only thing I'll to Mr. to Petro's,

33:52you know, comment about everything sort

33:54of affecting everything else and, you

33:57know, we've persons and public safety

34:00and and I think um Miss Wakefield's

34:03comment about, you know, you know, we

34:06want some buzz, but not not too much

34:09noise. And and I think that's something

34:12good to, you know, be mindful of in

34:15terms of uh how we're going forward. And

34:18I know you guys have some some uh goal

34:21setting and whatnot. And I think and you

34:24know I think we all have to kind of keep

34:26that in mind and and I appreciate these

34:28candidates uh seem to be sort of

34:31grounded in that. And I hope uh we're

34:34all grounded in that in terms of

34:37and maybe we've all got a little bit of

34:39an education on what that balance looks

34:41like um going forward. So I'll leave it

34:43at that. Thanks.

34:45>> Thank you.

34:50Ida Baris 1123 North Road. I thought we

34:53were going to get to talk about your

34:54goals, but we're not. So, I'm going to

34:58just say

35:00what I heard from you tonight. So, I can

35:02talk about what you spoke about, right?

35:04I was really pleased to hear all the all

35:08of you talk about how um you want all

35:13these committees to be working with each

35:15other. And it was what I was going to

35:16talk about anyway, that um that

35:22each like you're the town council that

35:24the town council supports all the other

35:26commissions and all their efforts. And I

35:28I heard a lot of that and um I was

35:31specifically thinking about the, you

35:33know, the board of ed, how it's really

35:35important that there is that sense that

35:38none of the boards are out there by

35:40themselves, that there's support from

35:43all of you. And that's what I was going

35:45to talk about. But I did want to say to

35:47these folks, thank you so much for that

35:50presentation. That was really cool. And

35:52also there was so many other cool things

35:54that happened in town. And and I know

35:58that there was, you know, the big that

36:00there was a theater in this building and

36:04all kinds of other things in this

36:05building. I don't know how long that

36:07continued, but I know um there was a lot

36:11of um theater in the area. Um and I

36:16think it's possible that my grandfather

36:19and his brother were part of that

36:21theater when they first came from

36:23Greece. And um also the the old Orpheium

36:28Theater also had live performances and

36:32there were operettas and all kinds of

36:34cool stuff. So, thank you to the

36:36historical society for keeping this all

36:38keeping us all informed in that and

36:41honoring it. So, anyway, thank you very

36:42much.

36:44>> Thank you.

36:51>> Any other public comment?

36:54Was there any public comment over in

36:57Okay, I almost forgot about asking that.

37:01>> Can I Sure. Yeah. Just one quick thing.

37:05I'd like to issue an invitation to each

37:08of you and the council. Please come and

37:10take a look at the historic society and

37:14what we have there. Um it's a unique

37:17collection loaded with stuff. It's open

37:21Wednesdays 10 to 4 and Saturdays 10 to

37:244. Please visit and take a look at what

37:28we have there. Thank you.

37:30>> Thank you.

37:36Moving on. Old business, none. New

37:40business, none. Executive session, none.

37:43I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn.

37:45>> Move.

37:45>> Second.

37:47>> All in favor?

37:48>> I.

37:49>> Any opposed?

37:51>> Any abstensions? Smashing.

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