2026-09-29 - City Council

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  • Approved a modified consent agenda, with some items added to it and others withdrawn for separate discussion.
  • Passed an ordinance for a three-year interlocal agreement with Mountain Brook on joint patrol and law enforcement at Alabama Veterans Memorial Park.
  • Passed an ordinance authorizing a quitclaim deed for property at 1220 38th Street North for $7,565.48.
  • Passed a resolution on a second amendment to the Druid Hills residential project agreement (not to exceed $167,245), extending it to Oct. 31, 2026 with no additional funding.
  • Passed urban villages planning contracts: Interface Studio LLC (up to $299,980), TSW (up to $299,575) and Wilborn Industries LLC (up to $99,600).
  • Passed a resolution with the University of Alabama Health Services Foundation PC (not to exceed $93,000) for community paramedicine consulting for Birmingham Fire and Rescue, Oct. 1, 2026 to Sept. 30, 2027; one councilmember recused.
  • Made appointments to the Birmingham Museum of Art Board and reappointed four members to the Design Review Committee.
  • Set an Oct. 20, 2026 public hearing on a zoning text amendment removing D5 from the affordable housing density bonus citywide.
  • Councilmembers announced district events, including a transportation town hall at Boutwell and the Avenue Street Market on Oct. 17.

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00:34Good morning, Birmingham. Today is

00:36Tuesday, September 29th, 2026. The time

00:41is 9:34 a.m. I call to order the regular

00:44meeting of the Birmingham City Council.

00:46Today's invocation will be led by

00:49Reverend Erlene Prince, pastor of the

00:52Church of God, Pratt City in Birmingham,

00:54Alabama. And the pledge of allegiance

00:56will be led by councelor Daryl O'Quinn.

00:58If you're willing and able, please stand

01:00and join us.

01:06>> Good morning.

01:07>> Good morning.

01:07>> Let us pray.

01:10Most holy Lord, the guiding architect of

01:14our destinies,

01:16inspire our city leaders as they convene

01:19today. Grant them the courage to shatter

01:23complacency,

01:25embrace innovation, and pioneer pathways

01:29of progressivism.

01:31Ignite their hearts with the flame of

01:33action and determination to enhance our

01:37communities prosperity.

01:40Let not tradition paralyze potential.

01:45In your divine wisdom, may they stand

01:47resolute in shaping a progressive legacy

01:51for future generations.

01:54Banish favoritism.

01:56Uphold righteousness.

01:58Foster unity. Let justice echo through

02:03each decision. Let no distractions

02:06disrupt, nor laziness loom over this

02:10hallowed assembly. rather empower them

02:14with focused attentiveness and

02:17disciplined action to spearhead

02:20meaningful progress. We pray this in

02:24Jesus's name for enduring diligence and

02:28unwavering commitment. Amen.

02:31>> Amen.

02:35So the flagg

02:38>> to the flag of the United States of

02:40America and to the republic for which it

02:43stands. One nation under God,

02:47indivisible with liberty and justice for

02:50all.

02:51>> Thank you very much. Thank you, Reverend

02:53Prince, for that wonderful message and

02:56it's great to see you again.

02:58>> Thank you, Councelor O'Quinn. At this

03:01time, Mr. Clerk, if you'll call the

03:02role. Council member Dunn,

03:05>> morning, sir. Council member O'Quinn,

03:08>> morning. Council member Smith.

03:11Council member Smitherman,

03:12>> morning.

03:12>> Morning,

03:14>> Council Member Vasa.

03:16>> Morning,

03:18Council Member Williams.

03:20>> Council member Woods,

03:22>> morning.

03:22>> Morning, Council President. Pro Tim

03:23Tate,

03:24>> good morning.

03:25>> Council President Alexander,

03:27>> present. Thank you.

03:29At this time, counselors, the minutes

03:31are not ready from the meetings of July

03:337th, 2026 through September 22nd, 2026.

03:38At this time, we'll entertain

03:39communications from the mayor. Good

03:41morning, Chief.

03:41>> Good morning, Madam President. Good

03:42morning, Madam Pro. To the members of

03:44the council, members of the public, all

03:46those under the sound of my voice. Madam

03:47President, there's no mayor's report

03:49today.

03:49>> Thank you very much. At this time,

03:52counselors, then we'll return uh to our

03:54agenda and reflect on the items that are

03:57to be considered for consent. Before we

03:59go through these items, I'd like to read

04:00the following conduct of business

04:02regarding our consent agenda. All items

04:04designated as consent are routine and

04:07non-controversial and will be approved

04:09by one motion. All items on the consent

04:11agenda will be announced by reading the

04:14item numbers only. No separate

04:16discussion of these items will be

04:18permitted unless a council member or the

04:20mayor requests the item to be removed

04:22from the consent agenda. Additionally, a

04:25citizen interested in addressing the

04:27council with respect to an item on the

04:29consent agenda designated for public

04:32hearing that's a small PH may request

04:34the item be removed from the consent

04:36agenda to hold the hearing on the item.

04:39Any items removed from the consent

04:40agenda agenda will revert to its normal

04:44place on the agenda order of business.

04:47All remaining matters all matters of

04:49permanent operation they're indicated

04:50with a capital P will be read and all

04:53public hearings will be announced. At

04:55this time, Mr. Clerk, if you'll

04:57entertain the items that are to be

04:59considered for consent. Consent

05:01>> agenda starts on page three.

05:04We have items eight and nine on consent.

05:08Then we skip over to page 18

05:12to item 10. Um page 19, items 11, 12,

05:15and 13 are on consent. Page 20, item 16

05:20is on consent. Page 21, items 17, 18,

05:24and 19 are on consent. Page 22, items

05:2820, 21, and 22 are on consent. Page 23,

05:32items 23, 24, and 25 on consent. Page

05:3624, items 26, 27, and 28 are on consent.

05:40Page 25, items 29, 30, 31, and 32 are on

05:44consent. Um, page 26, items 35, 36, and

05:4837 on consent. Page 27, items 38, 39,

05:5340, 41, 42, and 43 are on consent. Page

05:5828, items 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, and 49 are

06:03on consent. Page 29, items 50, 51, 52,

06:0753, 54, and 55 on consent. Page 30, we

06:11have items 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, and 61 on

06:16consent. Page 31, items 62, 63, 64, 65,

06:2366, and 67 are on consent. And page 32,

06:27items 68, and 69 are on consent. Page

06:3033, items 70, 71, 72, and 73 are on

06:35consent. Page 34, items 74, 75, 76, and

06:4177 are on consent. And page 35, items

06:4578, 79, 80, 81, and 82 are on consent.

06:49And that concludes the consent agenda.

06:51>> Thank you very much, counselors. Are

06:53there any items you'd like to have added

06:55or removed from consent? Councelor Prom.

06:59Thank you, Madam President. I want to

07:01add item 1, three, four, five,

07:05six, and seven on consent. No issues

07:08with these applicants doing public

07:10safety. And I also want to withdraw item

07:13number two and send it back to public

07:15safety.

07:18>> Okay. Did you say item six and seven as

07:20well?

07:20>> Yes, ma'am.

07:22>> All right. Council, the request has been

07:24to add the following items to consent.

07:26Item one, item three, item four, number

07:29five on page two, items six and seven on

07:32page three, and withdraw item two on

07:35page one. Thank you. Okay, any other

07:38items? Thank you for councelor

07:40Smitherman.

07:41>> Thank you, Madam President. I would like

07:43to remove item Well, actually, we don't

07:46have to remove item 19. If they can just

07:48tell us what is the amendment to the

07:51agreement.

07:53>> Okay, that's item 19. But I do want to

07:55take off consent um items 20 on page 22,

08:02item 26 on page 24, and item 29 on page

08:0825. Okay, that's item

08:1220 20 on page 22,

08:15>> item 26

08:18on page 24.

08:19>> Yes, ma'am.

08:20>> And the other one, I'm sorry. Item 29 on

08:22page 25.

08:23>> And item 29 on page 25.

08:26>> I just want to know the what's the

08:28amendment for item 19. We don't have to

08:30take off consent.

08:31>> Okay. Is administration at ready at this

08:34time just to um answer councelor

08:36Smitherman's question about

08:39>> Okay. Okay. Keep going. All right. Any

08:41other items?

08:43>> To move item 27, please.

08:44>> All right. Item 20. The request is to

08:47remove item 27.

08:50on page 24 from consent.

08:54Any other items?

09:01>> While we're waiting on that answer, I

09:03may just

09:24Okay, we'll entertain a motion and a

09:27second.

09:27>> So move.

09:29>> All right, before we have the question,

09:33>> we'll just go ahead and pull that one

09:34from consent and just let allow you to

09:37ask the questions. All right, so item 19

09:39is pulled from consent as well and

09:42that's on page 21.

09:45Any other items? All right, we have a

09:49motion and a second. Mr. Clerk, there no

09:51questions.

09:54>> I'm sorry, Mr. Who made the motion. I

09:55got a second.

09:56>> I'm sorry.

09:57>> Uh I motion and a second pro.

10:00>> Okay. Thank you. All right. The voting

10:03should be open about now.

10:12>> And I have you.

10:13>> Okay. Thank you. I mean yeses we have.

10:15>> Okay,

10:16>> that should be up vote.

10:19>> All right, thank you. The consent agenda

10:21passes with uh consent and so we'll now

10:25entertain the rest of the agenda. Mr.

10:28Clerk, the first item.

10:31>> Uh let's see. We're going to we withdrew

10:33three, so should be 14.

10:36>> Yes.

10:39an ordinance authorizing the mayor to

10:42execute a three-year interlocal

10:44cooperation agreement pursuant to

10:46section 11-102-1

10:49code of Alabama between the city of

10:50Birmingham and the city of Mountainbrook

10:53for the joint patrol and enforcement of

10:55laws at the Alabama Veterans Memorial

10:57Park a 22 acre park at 100 over Access

11:01Road Birmingham, Alabama 35243

11:04which is owned and operated by the city

11:06of Mbrook and located partially within

11:09the city limits of the city of

11:10Birmingham. This is an item of permanent

11:12operation. Need UC to pass it today.

11:14>> I look for UC.

11:17>> Council member Gun.

11:18>> Hi.

11:19>> Council member O'Quinn.

11:20>> Hi.

11:21>> Council member Smith.

11:22>> Hi.

11:22>> Council member Smithman.

11:23>> Hi.

11:23>> Council member Vasa.

11:25>> Hi.

11:25>> Council member Woods.

11:27>> Hi.

11:27>> Council President Pro Tim Tate.

11:30>> Hi.

11:30>> Council President Alexander. Motion on

11:32the item please.

11:35>> All right. Thank you councilor. This is

11:37an ordinance authorizing the mayor to

11:39execute a three-year interlocal

11:41cooperation agreement with the city of

11:42Mountain Brook for joint patrol and

11:45enforcement u of the laws covering the

11:48Alabama Veterans Memorial Park. We did

11:51entertain this item. Thought we

11:54entertain this item yesterday on budget

11:55and finance, but I guess not. But um

11:57this is property that is really located

12:00in the city of Birmingham, but Mountain

12:02Brook would like to um have an

12:05opportunity. They would like to patrol

12:07it. Any questions about this item or

12:09Mayor Whippin, did you have anything

12:11about this particular item you'd like to

12:13reiterate?

12:14>> Just thanks for explanation.

12:17This property is owned by the veterans.

12:19>> Okay.

12:20>> Um so it's not owned by the city.

12:23>> It's privately owned. The private owner

12:27um deed this property to another city,

12:31although it's within our city limits.

12:33And so part of that is uh they requested

12:37that they would like to actually uh give

12:39patrol to the area which we are more

12:41than fine with.

12:43>> Short version.

12:44>> Thank you. Any questions regarding this

12:47item? All right, we're ready for the

12:49vote. Thank you for that explanation,

12:50mayor.

13:01>> Okay. Uh, councelor Woo,

13:05>> he's out. Uh,

13:06>> he's he's out.

13:06>> Absolutely.

13:08>> That's us.

13:08>> That vote should be up.

13:09>> All right. Thank you. Item 14 passes.

13:12Next item

13:12>> should be item 15.

13:15An ordinance authorizing the mayor upon

13:17receipt of payment in the amount of

13:19$7,56548

13:22to execute a quick claim deed to ser

13:25Properties LLC for the sale of property

13:27legally described as parts of lots one

13:29and two in blocks 656. According to the

13:32map of Illson Land Company in the city

13:34of Birmingham, Alabama, more

13:35particularly described as follows. Begin

13:37at the intersection of the west line of

13:3930th Street and the north line of 12th

13:40Avenue North. Running fence in westerly

13:43direction along the north line of 12th

13:45Avenue North 198t to 20 ft alley

13:50uh 20ft alley in a northerly direction

13:52along the east line of S alley 60 ft.

13:55Then in easterly direction parallel to

13:5712th Avenue North 190 ft to the west

14:00line of 30th Street. Then in southernly

14:04southerntherly direction along the west

14:05line of 30th Street 60 ft to the point

14:08of beginning. All situated in Jefferson

14:10County, Alabama and located at 1220 38th

14:13Street North Birmingham, Alabama 35234

14:16which is required by the city upon

14:18foreclosure municipal improvement leans

14:19in accordance with section 3-1-4 C of

14:22the general code of the city of

14:23Birmingham. Another item of permanent

14:25operation. I need UC to pass it today.

14:28>> I'm move for UC.

14:30>> Council member Gun.

14:31>> Hi.

14:31>> Council member O'Quinn.

14:32>> Hi.

14:32>> Council member Smith.

14:34>> Hi.

14:34>> Council member Smitherman.

14:35>> Hi.

14:35>> Council member Masa.

14:37>> Hi.

14:38>> Council member

14:40Woods. Woods.

14:41>> Hi.

14:42>> Council prom.

14:43>> Hi.

14:44>> Council president Alexander.

14:45>> I motion.

14:48>> Second.

14:51>> All right. Thank you councilors. This is

14:53an ordinance. Authorizing the mayor upon

14:55receipt of payment in the amount of

14:57$7,56548

15:00to execute a quick claim deed to Sarah

15:03Court properties for the sale of

15:05property that's presented in the item.

15:07Any questions regarding this item? Yes,

15:08councel gun.

15:10>> Yes. Thank you, Madam President. Uh just

15:11a quick question. Uh what's the story

15:13behind the quick claim deed and then

15:15who's behind Sarah Court? Do we know?

15:23Thank you.

15:24Attorney Halt and Attorney Reich,

15:26please.

15:34>> Good morning, sir. Did you understand

15:35the question?

15:37>> Uh, yes, ma'am. Good morning. I'm

15:38Brennon Rutled. I serve as an assistant

15:40city attorney in the office of city

15:42attorney. Um, the question was about uh

15:46who is behind Sarah Properties.

15:49>> Yes.

15:51Um

15:52the information provided to us was that

15:55uh a Miss Helen Provenzano

15:59is uh a member of this company. That's

16:02the only information we had about that.

16:04>> Okay. Uh thank you for that. Uh what's

16:06the story behind the quick claim deed?

16:08Is I know it says that said there was

16:11some leans on the property. Could you go

16:13into the story behind the quick claim

16:15deed? Why the property was quick

16:16claimed? Uh so the city had foreclosed

16:20on a municipal improvement lean back in

16:232005 and the request is by the current

16:25owner to um clear that lean.

16:31>> Thank you.

16:31>> Thank you. Thank you very much. Any

16:33other questions? All right. Thank you,

16:35gentlemen. At this time, then we'll

16:37entertain the vote.

16:45Council President Alexander.

16:48>> Yes.

16:48>> All right. That vote should be up.

16:49>> All right. Thank you. That item 15

16:51passes. Next item

16:53>> should be item 20.

16:55>> N by 19. We had the collection. Are you

16:57ready for that yet or keep going? Okay.

17:00If you'll call up number 19, please.

17:02>> Yeah. Okay. 19.

17:05Item 19, a resolution authorizing the

17:06mayor to execute a second amendment to

17:09the agreement with Green Lining Realy at

17:11USA USA Birmingham LLC in an amount not

17:14to receive $167,245

17:17under which Green Lining Realy of USA

17:19Birmingham LLC will provide services to

17:21the city by implementing a project to

17:24develop a 35 to 40 unit residential

17:26development in the Druid Hills area

17:28which at least 10% of the units to be

17:31reserved for providing housing for the

17:32qualifying residents of the city of

17:34Birmingham at or below 100% of the area

17:37median income to extend the term of the

17:39agreement to a term to end on or before

17:41October the 31st, 2026.

17:48>> All right. Thank you, Councelor

17:49Smithman. You had a question regarding

17:51this.

17:51>> Just what is the amendment to the

17:53agreement?

17:58>> Thank you, Mr. Hatcher.

18:00>> All right. Good morning. My name is

18:01Chris Hatcher. sure if it's uh chief uh

18:04planner in the mayor's office. Um it's

18:08just a one-mon extension for the service

18:10recipient being the remainder of the

18:12fund. So no additional funding, just

18:14extending the term.

18:15>> Okay. Thank you.

18:16>> You're welcome.

18:17>> Any other questions? Everybody clear on

18:19that? Thank you, Mr. Hatcher. We're

18:21ready for the vote.

18:23>> All right.

18:29>> That vote should be up.

18:30>> All right. Thank you. Item 19 passes.

18:32Next item.

18:34>> Item 20.

18:36>> President.

18:37>> Yes, Mr. Mayor.

18:38>> I apologize. The next three items are

18:41all towards urban villages. I'm not sure

18:43if that's something the council wants to

18:45gauge engage as a collective, but the

18:48three poll are all related to urban

18:50villages.

18:51>> And that's item 20. And I'm trying to

18:53look for the other two. Uh

18:56>> 20 26

18:58>> 26 and 29. There we go.

19:02Yes, if we could call all three of those

19:05up together, that's 20,

19:0926,

19:11and 29.

19:13>> And Madame President,

19:14>> yes,

19:15>> I know there before they start, I know

19:17we had a question yesterday at budget

19:18and finance about those six villages

19:21that are mentioned in items. I forgot

19:24which one. Two out of three of the

19:26items. I don't know if they had that

19:27list today. Okay, we'll ask for that

19:29when they get up. You can call those,

19:32Mr. Cler. Thank you. Item 20, a

19:35resolution pursuant to section 11-40-1

19:39and 11-45-1

19:42of the code of Alabama 1975 authorizing

19:44the mayor to enter institute and execute

19:46an agreement with interface studio LLC

19:48under which interface studio LLC will

19:51develop implemental

19:54community supported plans for the

19:55designated urban village areas in

19:57connection with the urban villages

19:58initiative for a period of up to 10

20:00months. The total compensation to be

20:02paid under this agreement shall not

20:04exceed $299,980.

20:07And we're going to 26

20:102 item 26. A resolution pursuant to

20:13section 11-40-1

20:15and 11-45-1 code of Alabama 1975

20:18authorizing the mayor to enter and

20:20execute an agreement with tunnels

20:22Spangler and Associates Incorporated

20:24doing business at T TSW under which TSW

20:28will develop implementable community

20:31supported plans for three designated

20:33urban village areas in connection with

20:35the urban villages initiative for a

20:36period of up to 14 months for the total

20:39compensation to be paid under the United

20:41$299,575.

20:44Item number 29, page 25. A resolution

20:48pursuant to section 11-40-1

20:50and 11-45-1 code of Alabama 1975

20:54authorized the mayor to enter and

20:56execute an agreement with the Wilborn

20:58Industries LLC doing business at

21:00Wilbourne under which Wilurn will

21:02develop community engagement and

21:04strategies project narratives for the

21:07designated urban village areas to

21:08support urban planning efforts in

21:10connection with the urban villages

21:11initiative for a period of up to one

21:13year. The total total compensation to be

21:16paid under this agreement shall be in

21:17the amount not to exceed $8,300 monthly

21:20and shall not exceed a total of $99,600.

21:24Motion on those items.

21:26>> Items. Thank you.

21:28>> All right. Thank you councilors. You

21:30have before us three items that relate

21:32to the concept of the urban villages

21:35initiative. And we did have a discussion

21:38of this during budget and finance, but I

21:40think it's very good that we have this

21:42opportunity for all counselors to just

21:44um get a preview of the plans that are

21:48being taken for this. I know that we did

21:50have some discussion with the mayor

21:52before about urban villages, but I think

21:54it's a good time for us to hear the

21:56whole plan. Mayor Whitman.

22:00>> Yes, ma'am. Madam President, as as we've

22:02discussed um

22:06as we've discussed um in previous

22:09discussions, urban villages are

22:11extremely important um from an outlook

22:13of

22:15there was a question presented to me I

22:17guess um last week around strategic

22:21planning for the city of Birmingham.

22:22This one exists.

22:25Um in essence there are various

22:26departments u that are that have some

22:29strategy around long-term planning um

22:33economic development community

22:34development um from a public safety

22:37standpoint etc.

22:40But holistically, I think, well, not

22:42holistically, historically, we know the

22:43city of Birmingham at at its height, not

22:46only had 340,000 residents within the 99

22:49neighborhoods,

22:51um we had at least 20 areas that had

22:53their own little downtown, if you would,

22:56of um of economic vitality, small

23:01businesses, etc., etc. Um and many of

23:04those are dormant um in today's time.

23:06And so as we go about looking at um the

23:09future direction of the city, uh we've

23:13kind of identified 12 of these areas

23:15where we want to go deeper on what can

23:18the future look like of bringing back

23:21some of the economic vitality and

23:23proximity to where people live, work,

23:25and play. And so [clears throat]

23:28Mr. Fowler actually has a very more

23:31robust um detailed explanation as as it

23:35relates to sharing that vision um as

23:38well as planning out for that um growth.

23:42>> That's right. Yes, sir. Um so something

23:44we've been talking about for a long time

23:46is that citywide we have a a long list

23:49of infrastructure needs. Um, we could

23:52quickly add up across storm water,

23:54across sidewalks, across paving. We

23:56could easily get to a couple billion

23:58dollars of unmet needs, but the reality

24:00is we do not have a couple billion

24:03dollars to fix all the things that need

24:05to be fixed. And Birmingham's not alone

24:06in this. This is a national problem

24:08facing cities, but cities like ours

24:10where the mayor just mentioned where

24:11we've seen population loss, that

24:14problem, that deficiency comes to the

24:16surface. So that means that we're still

24:19going to try to answer residents calls

24:21and fix everything everywhere, but we've

24:23known that we've not been able to do

24:25that to begin with. But so the with the

24:26resources we have with what flexibility

24:29we can find, it will be important to

24:32pick some of those places across the

24:34city that have traditionally been

24:36anchors to the community like Woodlons,

24:39like North Birminghams, like Hinsley's,

24:41like Five Points West, Five Points

24:43South, those kinds of places. and try to

24:44make sure that we're doing a good job of

24:46stabilizing and building up those places

24:48so that they can be resources for the

24:50neighborhoods around them, for the areas

24:52around them so that we're on the one

24:54hand trying to address as many problems

24:56as we can citywide and then at the same

24:58time trying to be strategic with what

25:00flexibility we have. So that is at its

25:02root um what we're trying to do with the

25:04urban villages um initiative. And so

25:07what we have on the agenda today are um

25:11some resources from the recently passed

25:13surplus money to go towards some

25:15strategic planning in uh ultimately

25:17there will be uh contracts for eight of

25:19these areas. We just did a very similar

25:22exercise in Huffman um with Tanel

25:25Spangler Walsh. Um we went through and

25:27did a planning exercise with the

25:28community identified some alignment

25:30around what that shared vision can be

25:32for that area. It was a very healthy

25:34process. Um there was good community

25:36engagement and a really good plan and

25:38vision that came out of that. So we want

25:40to repeat that in um at least eight of

25:42these other areas. Some areas don't need

25:44planning, but about eight of them

25:46probably do need good community

25:48engagement, some engineering, some

25:49visioning, um just some shared

25:51conversation. So that's what we're

25:52trying to do is facilitate uh that

25:54shared visioning and community

25:56engagement uh to develop plans so that

25:58we have a good vision for all 12 of

26:01these areas. Can you share the eight

26:04areas please?

26:05>> Yes sir. So um Tel Spangler Walsh would

26:09be working on Five Points West uh East

26:12Lake and Eastwood.

26:16A firm called Interface would be working

26:19on Eninsley

26:21Five Point South

26:24and Tittisville.

26:27And then also the KPS group would be

26:30working on an area adjacent to Lawson

26:33State.

26:36And then we do have a firm, Lil Brun

26:39Associates, a local DBE firm, very good

26:41with public engagement. They'll be

26:43working across all these initiatives uh

26:45to help make sure that we're getting the

26:46word out, making sure that we get people

26:48out uh to these meetings.

26:51And then um also some areas where we are

26:54not hiring a consultant because planning

26:57is already underway or has recently been

26:59completed. Those are in Woodlon

27:02uh northwest downtown

27:06Huffman

27:08and Smithfield.

27:11And then there's one other area um where

27:15we may hire a consultant and that's in

27:17North Birmingham. Um,

27:22and I believe that company is called

27:23Place Associates.

27:28Madame President and Council, um,

27:32you know, I'm the impatient one. I would

27:34rather those resources you all blessed

27:37and approved in March. I would I would

27:40love to get into one of those areas and

27:42just dump it all in there and just go.

27:44Mhm.

27:45>> But, you know, the team has admonished

27:47me a little bit and said, "Just slow it

27:50down. Let's get this right. Let's get

27:53the community engagement. Um, let's make

27:55sure from a,

27:57you know, strategy standpoint, uh, we're

28:00doing this right.

28:02Um, because it's not necessarily about

28:04the immediate of what we can do um, in

28:06next week or next year, but as as Mr.

28:09Fowler reminded me, this for the next

28:11generation.

28:14Thank you, councelor Smithman. You had

28:16asked this item be pulled. Did you get

28:18all the information? I appreciate you

28:20pulling this.

28:21>> Yes, ma'am. And I'll re ask my question.

28:24What is the timeline for completion for

28:27the urban villages?

28:29>> It's a great question. So, it's kind of

28:30a multi-dimensional answer. So, for

28:32these plans, um it should take about a

28:35year to complete these plans. At the

28:37same time, the remainder of the money

28:38that we currently have allocated will go

28:40towards kind of small projects in some

28:42of these areas. So, that'll be in

28:44parallel. Um, I would expect over the

28:47next uh four and five years, we're going

28:49to continue to make strategic

28:51investments in these areas. We already

28:53do have uh different grant-f funed

28:55projects um and different initiatives

28:57that we're leveraging in some of these

28:59areas. And then I would say um you know

29:02there's not necessarily a completion

29:04point but to move beyond where we are

29:07today in some of these areas where um

29:09some of them have gotten pretty sleepy

29:11um we want to try to revitalize them. It

29:13may take you know 5 10 20 years to

29:16create the kind of vibrant places that

29:18we envision. But we need to start that

29:20today and that starts with a good plan

29:21and vision.

29:23>> Um I really want to say thank you Mr.

29:25Fowler. Um, Mayor Wolf and your

29:27administration because even though I'm a

29:29counselor for one area, I still

29:31represent all of Birmingham at like how

29:33diverse and how it spread all across the

29:35city. Like North Birmingham used to be

29:37really vibrant, you know, back in the

29:40day. And to see um places like that,

29:42Five Points West is it's on its way, but

29:46just especially with the family fund

29:47center, even mine like Five Point South,

29:49I'm sure Josh has sorry, councelor Boss

29:52has heard this a lot. Um, we want Five

29:54Point South to get back to how it used

29:55to be to this field. You know, I talked

29:57about that when I first got in office. I

29:59really wanted that corridor to come

30:00back. Um, my great great-grandfather, I

30:03think, had a business on that area. But

30:05I really do appreciate that because I

30:06think that's something um, I've heard

30:08from residents and business owners to

30:10have a help with like the holistic view.

30:13Um, over the last seven years I've been

30:15on the council because we've been able

30:16to touch everything, neighborhood

30:17revitalization, businesses,

30:20entertainment, um, schools. So, I really

30:22appreciate you guys for this. I think

30:23this is going to be great.

30:27>> Thank you very much. Um, Councelor Woods

30:30did did give us a little preview of the

30:32process you all had gone through in

30:34Huffman. So, I know he was um very

30:36excited about what had taken place so

30:37far

30:39and uh I agree with councelor Smith, the

30:42cross-section of the city, how we've

30:44tried to uh get to various quadrants and

30:48places within the city. So, um, if we

30:50could get this list, I know I wrote it

30:52down, but can you just email it to us so

30:54that we can have future?

30:55>> You'll have it today, Madam President.

30:57You have it this morning, actually.

30:59>> Thank you. And councelor Gunn.

31:01>> Thank you, Madam President. Uh, for

31:02neighbors that don't know what an urban

31:05village uh entails. Uh, could you speak

31:07in layman's terms um what an urban

31:10village entails?

31:12>> Yeah. One of the uh nice things about

31:14Birmingham is we do have these historic

31:16centers around that focused or uh that

31:19served as walkable urban centers and

31:22resources for the neighborhoods around

31:24them. Places where you could walk to get

31:27ice cream, you could walk to a

31:28drugstore, you could walk to even maybe

31:31a doctor's office or a dentist's office.

31:33Um so places that serve community and

31:36families and places that are resources,

31:38the kinds of main streets uh that we

31:41think of in our minds and and that we

31:43idealize. So those are the kinds of

31:45places we like to visit. We need to

31:46recreate and strengthen and stabilize

31:48those. Uh in my mind, you know,

31:51successful places that we like to visit

31:52around the country that are like that.

31:54They tend to have lots of small

31:55buildings with lots of small businesses.

31:57There tends to be residential blended

31:59in. Um, so places that where there's

32:01some gentle density that serves the

32:03neighborhoods around them.

32:05>> Thank you.

32:06>> Thank you. Any other questions?

32:08Councelor Bosa.

32:10>> Thank you, Madam President. I just

32:11wanted to second what uh councelor Smith

32:14said. Um the focus on these 12 areas

32:18that are scattered sort of throughout

32:20and intentional uh in approach I think

32:23will be very good for this. So I just

32:24wanted to thank you again uh Chief and

32:27and mayor. Looks like a good plan. Thank

32:29you.

32:29>> Thank you, councelor Pro Tim.

32:31>> Thank you, Madam President. Uh Chief,

32:33thank you. Thanks. Thanks to the mayor.

32:35I know when myself and councelor Gun had

32:37a meeting uh with the six communities in

32:41um the northern corridor, the mayor

32:43broke it down to, you know, the

32:46constituents saying this village will be

32:49anywhere from age two years old up to 80

32:52can, you know, come and um enjoy. Um as

32:56councelor Smith said growing up in North

32:58Birmingham I you know I can tell some

33:00stories you know how it was very

33:02walkable bargain town errors cleaners

33:06went deep you have fees York's pharmacy

33:10you know just really want to give um you

33:12know these business owners these small

33:14business owners an opportunity you know

33:16to come back into those areas and

33:19revitalize

33:20you know those areas but again thank you

33:22all for um this you know opportunity and

33:28and what you all foresee for the you

33:30know for the city you know traveling we

33:32we see a lot when we travel

33:34>> and so I just think the people um

33:36deserve um this and myself and councelor

33:39gun is doing an activation you know in

33:42that village the avenue street market so

33:44we getting people excited like what this

33:46can really uh look like in that in that

33:49area so we want people to come out to

33:50that and it just won't be a oneoff it'll

33:53be more than one time. So, thank you

33:55all.

33:56>> Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank

33:59you,

34:00Chief Fowler.

34:03>> Thank you, councelor. So, at this time,

34:04there no any questions, we're ready to

34:06entertain the votes on those three

34:08items.

34:15>> Council Williams, how would you like to

34:17vote?

34:18Thank you, sir. That vote should be up.

34:21>> All right. Thank you. So items 20,

34:2726, and 29 have passed. Next item,

34:32>> item 27.

34:34>> Yes.

34:35A resolution to authorize the mayor in

34:37accordance with section 11-43-140

34:40code of Alabama to execute a one-year

34:42agreement with the University of Alabama

34:45Health Services Foundation PC to provide

34:47consultant services professionally

34:49trained medical personnel to assist the

34:51BFRS regarding public health community

34:55parame medicine and other meanings of

34:57improving the health and well-being of

34:59citizens. Determine the agreement should

35:01begin on October the 1st, 2026 and end

35:03on September the 30th, 2027. This is

35:07authorized to the city is authorized to

35:09spend an amount not to receive $93,000

35:11for said consultant services. Motion,

35:14please.

35:17>> All right. Thank you, counselors. This

35:20is an item to authorize the mayor to

35:22execute a one-year agreement with the

35:24University of Alabama Health Services

35:26Foundation to provide consultant work uh

35:29for the health and well-being of our

35:31citizens. Councelor Smithman, you asked

35:32that we remove this from

35:34>> I did.

35:35>> I'm so sorry.

35:38Council Smith.

35:40>> I just wanted to Smith potato

35:44is different. Yes. Council Smith,

35:46>> I just wanted to recuse myself.

35:48>> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions?

35:51All right. Thank you. Now we're ready to

35:52entertain the vote.

36:02>> All right. Thank you. Item 27 passes

36:04with one extension. Thank you. Next

36:06item.

36:08>> We should be down to item 33.

36:10>> Yes.

36:12>> Item 33, a resolution confirming the

36:15appointment of five

36:18uh

36:18regular members for six years expiring

36:21October the 31st, 2032 and five and it

36:25should be advisory members instead of

36:28annual members for one year expiring

36:31August 31st 2027 to the Birmingham

36:33Museum of Art Board.

36:36>> All right, thank you councelor. So we

36:38could entertain a motion a second so we

36:40can hear this list to be considered.

36:44>> All right, thank you councelor Smith.

36:47Yes, thank you. So, the M Birmingham

36:49Museum of Art Board is um

36:52I guess adding people to their board. Um

36:56so, we have four of the open full-term

36:59positions are for regular members and

37:01they're nominating John Montgomery to a

37:04six-year second six-year term. Um

37:07Melanie Bridgefor, Braxton Comr, Mel

37:10Melanie Nichols, and Dr. Melva Tate.

37:14They're also adding five advisory board

37:17members as follows. Greg Utrris, Kyle

37:21Diagustinino,

37:24Lenina,

37:26Po McDonald,

37:27>> Whitney Russell, and Dr. PSN.

37:30>> All right. Thank you, council. Any

37:32questions of these uh nominees for these

37:34board appointments?

37:37>> Right. At this time, we'll entertain the

37:39vote.

37:45That vote should be up.

37:47>> All right. Thank you. Thank you,

37:48Councelor Smith, for bringing these

37:50names to us. And we uh welcome these

37:53members to the Museum of Arts Board.

37:55Thank you very much. Next item. Item 33

37:58passes.

37:59>> Item 34, resolution appointing and it

38:01should be uh four members to the design

38:03review committee for terms expiring July

38:0530th, 2028.

38:09>> Second.

38:10>> All right. Thank you, councilors. This

38:11is a resolution appointing four members

38:13to the design review committee and we'll

38:16have Dr. O'Quinn to announce those.

38:19>> Thank you, Madam President. Um,

38:21[clears throat] so this item will

38:23reappoint uh four members to the design

38:28review committee for a um

38:32term expiring July 30th, 2028. Those

38:36members are Craig Hoskins,

38:39Richard Mock, Cheryl Morgan, and Ben

38:44Whisman.

38:47House is any questions about those names

38:49that have been put before us. We're

38:51ready for [clears throat] the vote.

38:58>> That vote should be.

38:59>> All right. Thank you. Thank you, Dr.

39:01Quinn for bringing these uh pointing

39:03these four members to the design review

39:05committee and we wish them well in their

39:07service. Next item

39:09>> should be item 83.

39:11It's on page 35. um a resolution setting

39:14a public hearing October the 20th, 2026

39:18to consider adoption of proposed text

39:20amendments to the city's zoning

39:22ordinance entitled one chapter 3 article

39:26one section 8 as amended by removing D5

39:28from affordable housing density bonus

39:31that will affect all property within the

39:32corporate boundaries of the city of

39:34Birmingham.

39:38>> All right, thanks councilors. This is a

39:39resolution setting a public hearing for

39:41October 20, 2026 to consider adoption of

39:46a proposed text amendment to the city

39:48zoning ordinance. Any questions about

39:50setting this date?

39:53All right, we're ready for the vote

40:00everybody.

40:04>> That vote should be up.

40:05>> All right. Thank you. We have set that

40:06hearing date for October 20th, 2026.

40:10Any other items, Mr. Clerk?

40:13>> No, ma'am.

40:14>> All right. Thank you. At this time,

40:15councilors, if you would allow, I'd like

40:19to go ahead and read the announcements

40:22for district 7.

40:26I do want to take this opportunity to

40:28recognize some visitors that we have in

40:30the uh room today. and we have the

40:33principal and co-founder of Miracle

40:35Academy and two of their ambassadors.

40:38And if you all would just please welcome

40:39them. Miracle Academy is located in

40:41District 7. They do a wonderful job of

40:43providing services and education for

40:46students who um really benefit from the

40:50services that they provide. And we thank

40:52you so much, Mrs. Mullins, for the work

40:54that you and Bishop do in the school.

40:56And um young ladies, we hope you've had

40:58a great opportunity to see government at

41:00work today. Thank you very much. All

41:02right, at this time for announcements

41:05for District 7. On October 2nd, Friday,

41:08we'll have our first October

41:10neighborhood association meeting. We

41:11always begin the month with the Jones

41:13Valley Neighborhood Association. It'll

41:15be at 400 PM at the Powley Library. And

41:18then on Monday, October 5th, we'll have

41:21the Grasilla Heights Neighborhood

41:22Association. And they'll meet at 6 PM at

41:24Bryant Chapel AM. Doc Doc, not Dr.

41:28Councelor Woods, did you have any

41:30announcements that you wanted to make?

41:34>> Uh, thank you. Quickly, uh, a couple

41:36neighborhood association meetings. The

41:38Spring Lake neighborhood will meet on

41:40Thursday, October 1st at 6:30 p.m. Uh,

41:43that meeting will be at Huffman High

41:44School. There's also a uh, Zoom option

41:46available. The Echo Highlands

41:48Neighborhood Association will meet on

41:50Thursday at 700 p.m. via Zoom. Anyone

41:53interested in obtaining the uh virtual

41:56participation information can email bhm

41:59district1gmail.com

42:01for more information. Also uh save the

42:04date for the District 1 harvest and

42:06garden fest coming up on Sunday, October

42:0811th from 2 p.m. to 400 p.m. We'll be

42:11partnering with the Birmingham Urban

42:13Gardeners for a uh garden open house and

42:16and fall festival. So, I want to say

42:18about six years ago, we we created a um

42:22community garden out at East Pensson

42:24Valley Rec Center and has continued to

42:26grow. Uh you know, the residents and the

42:28Birmingham urban gardeners have really,

42:30uh taken it over and kept it going and

42:32they've had many successful planting and

42:35growing and harvesting seasons. And so,

42:37uh come out and check that out and learn

42:39more. Again, that will be October 11th

42:41from 2 to 4.

42:43>> Thank you very much. This time, I'll

42:45turn the meeting over to Pro Tim. Thank

42:47Thank you, Council Smith. Are you ready,

42:48Council Smith? Thank you, Madam

42:50President.

42:50>> Yes. Thank you. All right. So, the

42:53application for the District 8 capital

42:55improvement award went live yesterday.

42:57District 8 residents can apply now

42:59through November 9th for this matching

43:01funds grant that supports resident le

43:03neighborhood improvements. For more

43:05information, we invite you to attend

43:07information sessions that will be held

43:09throughout the next couple of weeks. The

43:11first one being tomorrow, Wednesday,

43:13September 30th at 6 PM at the West

43:15Precinct. You can also email D8 grants

43:18birmingham.gov.

43:22The second annual Hope Festival

43:24sponsored by District 9 um as well as

43:27the Ensley Neighborhood um collaborative

43:30is hosting their event on Saturday,

43:32October 3rd at Ensley Park and

43:33Recreation Center from 1 to 7:00. Excuse

43:36[clears throat] me. The 6th annual green

43:38mass at Holy Family Catholic Church will

43:40be held on Monday, October 5th at 7 p.m.

43:44And that is 1910 19th Street, Ensley.

43:47And then neighborhood meetings, we have

43:49the following on next Monday, October

43:525th, we have Central Pratt meeting at 6

43:54PM via phone. You can call our office to

43:56get that code. We also have College

43:58Hills meeting on Monday, October 5th at

44:016 PM and that will be in the Legion

44:03Field lobby. Thank you.

44:06Thank you, Council Smith, Council Gun.

44:08>> Thank you, Madam Pro Tim. Uh, these are

44:10my announcements for uh this week. There

44:12will be a community meeting tonight on

44:14Brownsfields in the North Birmingham uh

44:17community. Uh so, meet at the North

44:20Birmingham Library at 5:30 p.m. to learn

44:22more about brownfields in the community

44:24and then how the city of Birmingham will

44:27uh be addressing uh those brownfields.

44:29This Saturday, Woodline United will host

44:31the Woodline Saturday supper. So, I hope

44:33to see all my Woodline neighbors out in

44:35Woodline uh this weekend. Uh the

44:37Birmingham Shuttlesworth International

44:39Airport will host a job fair next

44:41Tuesday from 9:00 a.m. uh to 12:00 p.m.

44:44So, anyone that's looking for a job,

44:46there are opportunities at Birmingham

44:48Shuttlesworth International Airport. So,

44:50show up uh and come ready. Uh also on

44:54October the 17th, Councelor Proim, Madam

44:57Pro and myself, we are hosting the

45:00Avenue Street Market. So we are calling

45:02all vendors that are interested in

45:04participating. So that's Collegeville,

45:06Haramman Park, Norwood, North

45:09Birmingham, Druid Hills, Fountain

45:11Heights, Enan Ridge, [laughter]

45:13all the north side neighborhoods that

45:15are interested in participating. We are

45:16calling on you uh to show up and show

45:19out for the Avenue Street Market. Again,

45:21that is October the 17th, 10:00 a.m. to

45:242 pm. So if you're interested, reach out

45:26to our offices. also neighborhood

45:29association meetings that are coming up.

45:31Uh the first one is Brumit Heights,

45:33which happens this Thursday at 1 p.m. at

45:36the Brownsville Heights Community

45:37Center. Uh next up will be Zion City,

45:40which will be Monday, October the 5th at

45:426:30 p.m. via teleconference. Also on

45:45that same Monday is Brownsville Heights

45:47at 6:30 p.m. at the Brownsville Heights

45:50Community Center. Also that Monday is

45:52Collegeville uh at 6:30 p.m. at the

45:54Greater New Antioch Baptist Church. And

45:57lastly, on m on Tuesday, October the 6

46:00at 6:30 p.m., the Fairmont Neighborhood

46:02Association will meet at the North

46:04Birmingham Library. Uh upcoming

46:06committee meetings, the next community

46:07development meeting is October the 5th

46:09at 3:30 p.m. in the city council

46:12chambers. And that concludes my

46:13announcements.

46:14>> Thank you, Council Council.

46:17>> Thank you, Madam Prom. The Birmingham

46:20Department of Transportation will be

46:22hosting a transportation town hall

46:24meeting tonight at Boutwell Auditorium.

46:27The event features an interactive

46:30openhouse starting at 5:00 p.m.

46:33highlighting proposed transportation

46:36projects. At 6 PM, the event will

46:40transition into a town hall discussion

46:43featuring Mayor Wooden, Chief Fowler,

46:46and Director Shaw from BJCA.

46:50Hope to see you there. Also, this week,

46:53we have Woman Neighborhood Association

46:55that has a meeting on Thursday, October

46:591st at 6 PM at the Southern Museum of

47:02Flight. Uh, the next transportation and

47:05infrastructure committee meeting will

47:07take place on Monday, October 12th at 2

47:10p.m. here in the council chambers.

47:12The next planning and zoning committee

47:15meeting will take place on Tuesday,

47:17October 13th at 300 p.m. here in the

47:21council chambers. And that concludes my

47:23announcements.

47:24>> Thank you, councelor. Councelor Fasa.

47:28>> Thank you, Madam Prom. Uh mark your

47:30calendar for Tuesday, October 6th, 400

47:33pm to 5:00 pm for Time to Read Book

47:36Club, a monthly gathering hosted by the

47:38library at the Birmingham Botanical

47:41Gardens. Um the next neighborhood

47:44association meeting we have is Glenn

47:46Iris. That is Monday

47:49uh at 6:30 p.m. at St. Elias Church. And

47:52also just want to wish my wife a happy

47:54birthday. Thank you, Protown.

47:57Uh, thank you councelor Bosa. Counselor

47:59Smitherman.

48:00>> Thank you ma'am prom. Thank you to

48:02everyone who came out to Legion Field

48:04this past Saturday for sister struck

48:06with Brendan Brown bosom buddies. I had

48:09a wonderful time with my colleagues

48:11madam president and uh councelor Smith

48:14council we miss you but we know you

48:16support every year. So it was a great

48:18event and thank you to Brenda for all

48:19that you do. Also thank you to everyone

48:21who joined us for the uh urban

48:23ministries colline cookoff. I had a good

48:26time judging the cook off. It was a lot

48:28of fun. Um, very interesting. One of

48:30the, um, contestants had cornbread with

48:33her greens. We couldn't have it till

48:34afterwards, but it was really cool. Um,

48:37I forgot his name. He used to Brother

48:39Let's Talk. He actually won second

48:40place, but it was really good. They had

48:42free collard greens and sweet potatoes

48:44to give out, good food, fellowship.

48:46Congrats to all of our winners as well.

48:49Uh, yesterday marked the final class for

48:51our threemon get fit while you sit

48:53series. It's been amazing. Um, thank you

48:56to DJ Maestro for keep us moving. We

48:59will have a one-monlong series class

49:02from October to November. We'll um be

49:05announcing that soon. And then we will

49:08resume those classes at the beginning of

49:102027. So, be on the lookout. And then

49:12join us today. Um, we will have the

49:14grand reopening of Tisville Library. Um

49:17that was something colleagues, you know,

49:19we we passed um the funding to approve

49:22the foundation for the library, but that

49:24will happen today at 300 PM at the

49:27Tisville Library. I look forward to

49:29celebrating this exciting event with the

49:31Tisville community. Thank you.

49:33>> Thank you, Council Smith. I'm Counselor

49:35Williams.

49:37>> Thank you. Economic Development Tourism

49:39Committee will be uh scheduled for

49:41October the 6th at 11:30 in conference

49:43rooms DNE. If you could have all

49:45submissions to india.bailey at

49:47birminghamal.gov by this Thursday, it'd

49:50be appreciated. Thanks.

49:51>> Thank you, Council Williams. Central

49:53Pratt Neighborhood Association meeting

49:54is Monday, October the 5th, 2026 at 6

49:57p.m. at the Howard Sanford Rick Center.

49:59The next public safety committee meeting

50:01is Tuesday, October the 13th at 1 p.m.

50:03in the council chambers. If you have any

50:05questions or concerns, feel free to

50:07contact our office at 254230254296.

50:13The next state of the district is um

50:16Wednesday, September the 30th for every

50:18constituent neighborhood in District 9.

50:21It's going to be 6 p.m. at Protective

50:23Stadium. And also, if you are interested

50:25in Pratt City is welcoming you to

50:27Shadowbrook to the Homegrown Community

50:30Festival and that's going to be Sunday,

50:32October the 4th at 1 p.m. They will have

50:35food trucks, um face painting, pumpkin

50:38decorating, and they want people to come

50:40out and tour the home. So, it's at 1700

50:44Ponetta Drive and that's the new homes

50:47um in the Shadowbrook, the Pratt City

50:49area. As has been mentioned, council gun

50:51mentioned about the Avenue Street

50:52Market. So, please um come out and

50:55support and it's going to be in the

50:56North Birmingham Square at 301227th

50:59Street North and that's from 10:00 a.m.

51:00to 2:00 p.m. So, please vendors if you

51:03live in North Birmingham, Yennon Ridge,

51:05Pacificico Finley, Jur Hill, Found

51:07Heights, uh Herman Park and all of those

51:10areas are in district 4 and nine, please

51:12ma'am and sir, um sign up. Also, uh we

51:16want we're doing a casting call calling

51:18all H.B.CU

51:20H.B.CU students. If you think you got

51:22what it takes to host 205 in park,

51:25please um

51:27um scan the QR code, sign up. It's I

51:30know it's all on social media, but the

51:32deadline is approaching soon by October

51:34the 2nd. So, please get your submission

51:36in so we can cast our next um host and

51:39our 205 crew. That's my announcements

51:42for today. Mr. Clerk, do we have any

51:44community voices for today?

51:50Ralph Gamble.

51:53Ralph Gamble. And that's it.

51:56>> Okay. Seeing none, uh, we want to thank

51:58our officers are on duty. That's officer

52:00Pinker, Officer Wesley, Officer McGee,

52:04and our fire inspectors is Inspector

52:06Griggs. If there any more no more

52:08announcements, I will call for a motion.

52:10>> So move.

52:12Call in favor.

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