2026-09-08 - Planning and Zoning Committee

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  • The committee approved the minutes of its July 28 and August 25, 2026 meetings.
  • Rezoning at 1259 Huffman Road (Spring Lake neighborhood): about 4.5 acres from D3 single-family residential to C1 neighborhood commercial for a new Boys and Girls Club of Central Alabama, serving middle and high school youth with workforce training, roughly 50 youth at a time and a 1 to 18 staff ratio. See Boys and Girls Club Rezoning on Huffman Road.
  • Staff said the neighborhood association voted 7 to 0 in favor, while the Zoning Advisory Committee voted to not recommend (heard as 1 to 3) after nearby residents raised noise, traffic and past-use environmental concerns.
  • Staff comments on the site plan: move front-yard parking and the dumpster, combine lots, and add landscape buffers (or fencing) where it abuts residential zoning. The architect said an alternate plan with side parking exists, the land was donated, and environmental testing would be done as due diligence.
  • The committee unanimously recommended the rezoning to the full council.
  • The committee unanimously recommended reappointing three members to the Birmingham Planning Commission for six-year terms.
  • The committee unanimously recommended three people to fill vacancies on the Birmingham Historical Commission. See Board and Commission Appointments.

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00:0026, we'll call this meeting to order.

00:03First item

00:05of business is consideration of the

00:07minutes from the July 28th, 2026 and

00:11August 25th, 2026 meetings.

00:19>> Move approval of both of the

00:21aforementioned meeting minutes.

00:24>> All right, all in favor say aye. Aye.

00:26>> Aye.

00:27>> Those minutes are approved. Our next

00:31item is ZAC 2026

00:3408007.

00:41>> Good afternoon.

00:43My name is Kim Spral. I service the

00:45zoning administrator for the city of

00:47Birmingham in planning, engineering, and

00:49permits. Um this is a rezoning case um

00:53located at 1259 Huffman Road in the

00:56Spring Lake neighborhood. The applicant

00:59is requesting to rezone the property

01:01from D3 single-family residential to C1,

01:05which is neighborhood commercial, so

01:07that they can build a new Boys and Girls

01:09Club of Central Alabama. The property is

01:12about 4 and 1/2 acres. It's currently

01:15D3. It's mostly vacant. There's a small

01:18shed on the very back of the property.

01:21You can when you drive by it, all you

01:23can see is the roof of the shed because

01:26of the topo.

01:28Um property to the north is zone D3 city

01:31of Birmingham single-family residential.

01:34To [snorts] the south is a mix of

01:36Jefferson County zoning. There's A1,

01:39which is our agricultural district, and

01:41C1, which is their Jefferson County

01:44commercial district. To the east is zone

01:47D3 city of Birmingham. And then to the

01:50west is a mixture of Jefferson County

01:53and city of Birmingham zoning. Um it's

01:56institutional one for Jefferson County,

01:59R1 Jefferson County, and then D2 City of

02:03Birmingham.

02:04Um, the applicant is here, so I'll let

02:07him explain in more details what they're

02:09proposing, um, but they are planning on

02:12building a new Boys and Girls Club of

02:14Central Alabama at this site. Their

02:17anticipated hours of operation are

02:19Monday through Saturday from 9:00 to

02:228:00. Um, it'll be targeted specifically

02:25for middle and high school youth, and

02:28they'll also have, um, some workforce

02:30skills that will be available to other

02:32students um, and young adults, um, in

02:36the area.

02:37Um, programming is also planned to be

02:39available after school on weekends and

02:42then in the summer when school is not in

02:44session. Um, they will maintain a 1:18

02:49staff to youth ratio.

02:51Um, they plan on having approximately 50

02:54youth at this location, which would

02:56require three staff members, and then

02:59depending on what the activities are,

03:01they may need to increase those numbers

03:03during the day.

03:04Um, the long-range land use plan for

03:06this area does identify the property as

03:09residential low density.

03:12Um, we'll go over a few of the staff

03:14comments. Um, the site plan, and the

03:16applicant is willing to work on the site

03:18plan with some of these zoning comments

03:20just so you guys are aware. Um, there is

03:23parking in a front yard, so they'll have

03:25to move the parking lot to the side or

03:27rear the building to avoid having to go

03:30through the variance process.

03:32Um, then we will verify that they meet

03:34their parking maximum, that they don't

03:37go over their parking requirement. Um,

03:39the dumpster is in the front yard, so

03:42it'll need to be moved back just

03:44slightly so that it's even with the

03:45building. Um, if the property's not

03:48already one lot, it will have to be

03:50re-surveyed into one lot.

03:52And then we do have the fencing

03:54requirement that it cannot be taller

03:56than 4 ft in a front yard because there

03:59are adjacent residential properties.

04:03The landscaping plan does appear to meet

04:05all the city requirements. Um we will

04:07just need to look at if the property is

04:09rezoned to make sure that there is a

04:12buffer along the property lines that

04:16will abut the single-family district. So

04:19an additional landscape buffer will be

04:21required in those portions.

04:24Um before they apply for a building

04:26permit, they will have to get their

04:27solar erosion control permit and civil

04:30construction permit. This property is

04:32not in a special flood hazard area and

04:35the Department of Transportation did not

04:37have any comments related to this site.

04:41Um this is in the northeast framework

04:43plan area, so they have already gone

04:45through their rezoning process. The

04:47applicant met with the Spring Lake

04:49Neighborhood Association on August 13th

04:52of this year and they voted unanimously

04:547 to 0 to approve this rezoning request.

04:59Last week at the Zoning Advisory

05:01Committee meeting, ZAC voted 1 to 3 to

05:05not recommend and I wanted to clarify

05:09where they kind of where that vote came

05:11from.

05:12There were three residents from the area

05:15who attended the meeting. It was a

05:17husband and wife and then there was

05:20another woman who lived behind the site.

05:24Um the husband and wife were concerned

05:26because the husband is um drives tractor

05:29trailers at night and he sleeps during

05:31the day. So he was concerned about the

05:34noise that the children might make if

05:36they're playing outside during the day

05:39on the basketball court or the

05:40pickleball courts.

05:43Um

05:44they also shared some concerns about

05:47traffic in the area. Um Um although our

05:50transportation department did not

05:52require a traffic study for this site.

05:55Um and then the woman who lives behind

05:58the site, um she kind of gave a lengthy

06:01discussion about the history of this

06:03site and said that um she had

06:06environmental concerns with it because

06:08it was her understanding that a gas

06:11company used to own that site years ago

06:14and she was concerned that there might

06:16be environmental issues associated with

06:19the site. Um and and that was pretty

06:22much her concern is just making sure

06:24that the property um was clean and safe

06:27for the children. Um so that was why the

06:30ZAC voted 1 to 3 to not support the

06:35request. Um but the applicant is here.

06:38He can answer any questions that you

06:40guys have or elaborate on any of the

06:42activities that will be occurring at the

06:44site.

06:46And that concludes our staff report.

06:48>> Right. Before you leave, um I have a

06:51question. So in the maps that were

06:53supplied to us, are

06:56all of the areas that are unshaded, are

06:59those

07:00Jefferson County or

07:04some other jurisdiction?

07:07>> Yes, the ones that are unshaded are the

07:09Jefferson County properties. The ones

07:12that are zoned um agriculture,

07:16Jefferson County neighborhood

07:17commercial, um and Jefferson County

07:20institutional.

07:22>> Okay.

07:24So

07:26it looks like there's a

07:29church to the north of the property on

07:32Huffman Road.

07:33>> That's correct. That's

07:35Yeah, that is single-family residential.

07:38>> Okay. And Jefferson County.

07:40>> Mhm.

07:41>> And and to the

07:43the south

07:45there it looks like those are

07:46residential structures.

07:47>> It's a mix of residential and there's a

07:50few commercial structures in there

07:52because it is Jefferson County

07:53commercial and agriculture to the south.

07:58>> Okay.

08:00And then across Huffman Road

08:03>> it's Jefferson County institutional

08:07Jefferson County single-family and then

08:09City of Birmingham single-family.

08:11>> Got you.

08:12>> It's this area is kind of a hodgepodge

08:14of zoning.

08:15>> Right, right, right. Okay, got you.

08:18Okay, that's that's it.

08:20Yep.

08:28Hello.

08:28>> Hi.

08:30I am Jeff Tosh, um the architect for the

08:33project.

08:34Um

08:35I live at 518 47th Street South.

08:39Um

08:40Kim kind of went over all the

08:42the items with the building.

08:44Uh it's typical Boys & Girls Club type

08:47functions. Let's see, you know, I've got

08:49a little list.

08:53Um

08:57Uh there's as as she said, 1 to 18 staff

09:00to youth ratio.

09:02Um

09:03there's a future ready teens program

09:06focus with uh financial literacy, GED

09:09preparation

09:10life skills and goal setting, academic

09:13enrichment, youth leadership and voice.

09:16There's also a um

09:20a few things in place like you can

09:22uh get your CDL driver's license uh

09:25training, work-based learning, skilled

09:27trades, food service industry

09:31and health care training for some of the

09:33a few of the older people. But, um it's

09:36mostly for teenage, middle school to

09:38high school.

09:39Um, they need the space, um, cuz the

09:41other facility fills up.

09:43Um,

09:45the property was donated to them,

09:48uh,

09:49and the property's value is somewhere

09:51around $113,000,

09:53I believe. But, um, this is my fourth

09:56project with the Boys and Girls Club,

09:58the first one with, uh, Central

10:01Alabama. The other three have been with

10:03North Alabama.

10:04Um, but all four projects that I've been

10:06involved with, all the properties have

10:07been donated.

10:08>> Okay.

10:09>> Um,

10:11>> So, um,

10:13the Boys and Girls Club that I'm

10:14familiar with is the AG Gaston, um,

10:18building over in Five Points West.

10:21>> Yeah.

10:21>> Would the, it be a similar type of

10:24layout?

10:25>> The site plan is all that has really

10:28been drawn right now. I've got examples

10:30of the other, the previous three, if

10:32you'd like to see them. Um,

10:35they're generally metal buildings. The

10:36one in Athens is full of four-sided

10:38brick. Um, I haven't, we haven't

10:40discussed budget or anything like that,

10:42but basically the 7,500 square feet is,

10:46um, an open space where we can have all

10:49these training classes. It will have

10:51basketball goals in there. Um,

10:54>> Mhm.

10:54>> there's a space out back for a

10:55pickleball court and basketball goal

10:57also, but the property's 4 and 1/2

10:59acres, so there's

11:01substantial amounts of room out there.

11:04>> Yeah.

11:04>> Um,

11:05the

11:06As far as the environmental concerns,

11:09um, we we haven't gone far enough to,

11:12you know, to test the site or anything

11:14like that yet. We would, you know,

11:15definitely do our due diligence with

11:16anything like that. I haven't been made

11:18aware, we do have a survey. Um, there is

11:21a metal building in the middle of it.

11:22It's very small. It's old and it'll

11:24probably be torn down. And right now

11:26that area is not really even around

11:29where the building location is. Um,

11:32the parking that we discussed

11:34uh that was previously brought up. I

11:36I've already done another site plan with

11:38the parking on the side just as an

11:39option. It just happened to be the one

11:41we submitted had the one uh along the

11:43road just because of uh really just

11:45thinking about economics.

11:47Um,

11:48as far as the noise, I mean, if y'all

11:51been on Huffman Road before, it's a it

11:53is a well-traveled road. Um,

11:55there's a couple of car dealerships,

11:57there's uh a few churches, there's

11:59retail. There is residential, but um

12:02you know,

12:03as far as the location of where the two

12:06people that lived and their concerns

12:09about the noise,

12:11honestly, I don't think that's going to

12:12be an issue because if you're that road

12:14already during the day, if you're there

12:15at noon on a Tuesday,

12:18it would be difficult to have a

12:19conversation back and forth across the

12:20street. And we're talking about another

12:23600-800 ft and then the building and

12:26then the playgrounds in the behind that.

12:29And we would definitely be respectful of

12:30any kind of

12:31residential buffers, you know, that the

12:33zoning requires because you know, that's

12:36it's important, you know.

12:37>> Yeah.

12:39Um,

12:41so yeah, the

12:44looking at the site plan,

12:46um it looks like

12:49the

12:50area to where the buildings and parking

12:53lot and

12:55uh

12:55basketball court would be located is

12:57roughly a quarter to a third of the

13:00piece of property. Um,

13:02and I was just wondering,

13:04you know, what the setback from

13:08say like, you know, in this site plan

13:11that we have,

13:13uh what the setback to the back property

13:15line would be. It looks like, you know,

13:17maybe

13:19couple hundred feet at least.

13:20>> Right. And the required setback is not

13:24very much. I want to say it's like the

13:25max on the back I want to say is 20, and

13:27the sides are five. The back may even be

13:30five.

13:31>> Okay.

13:33Um

13:34>> But we're a good distance, and even

13:35moving the If we move the parking lot to

13:37the side, that's just going to move the

13:39building further away from the

13:40residential area, too.

13:42>> Right.

13:43>> And the playgrounds would be in the back

13:45behind the building.

13:50>> So, I guess this is a question for

13:53staff. Is there a buffer requirement for

13:56for this?

14:02>> Yes, sir. Anywhere the property when if

14:04it's rezoned to C1, any abutting

14:08property that's zoned

14:11less than C1 to any D districts would

14:14require an additional landscape buffer.

14:16>> Okay. And

14:18um

14:18>> And that's on all sides, not just the

14:21side or the rear. That would include

14:23some planting in the front as well along

14:25Huffman Road.

14:27>> Okay. So, a fence and some

14:30landscape plants?

14:32>> It So, there are several options. So, if

14:35you don't do a fence, then you have to

14:37have a denser landscape buffer, or you

14:41can have a more narrower buffer with a

14:43fence and with plantings. So, we do give

14:47them options to choose from.

14:50>> Okay.

14:50>> And I think they're they're totally okay

14:53with adhering to whatever the buffer

14:55requirement. They're okay with choosing

14:57one of our options.

14:59>> Got you.

15:00All right.

15:03Any questions from the committee?

15:05Councilwoman This is your council

15:07district.

15:08>> Yeah. Thank [clears throat] you.

15:09>> Uh

15:10I can what you were refer

15:12what you were describing, that meets the

15:14needs of a B buffer.

15:16Okay.

15:18>> Yes, sir. That's the one that would be

15:19required.

15:21>> All right. And then moving the parking

15:24I guess where where have you in your

15:26mind situated the new location for the

15:28parking?

15:30>> I was thinking we move the building to

15:32the south

15:34um east and turn the

15:36parking 90° where it's in between

15:40whatever landscape buffer for that it's

15:42an abandoned church right now next door

15:44>> Okay.

15:44>> and then the parking and then the

15:46building.

15:47>> All right, so you more so center the

15:49building

15:50>> Yeah, we move a little further south.

15:53>> Okay.

15:57>> I think the one thing that the zoning

15:58wants to do with that too is to make

16:00sure that the parking is separated from

16:02the drop-off area for safety reasons for

16:04the kids.

16:06Which makes sense.

16:09>> Okay, so you would still have a

16:12drive that goes across the face of the

16:14building or front of the building.

16:15>> Right, we would still have some sort of

16:16drop-off.

16:17>> Okay.

16:21>> And the parking that's shown is the

16:22parking that I calculated. Um the zoning

16:25the comments in the zoning that we

16:27received actually requires less parking

16:29than that.

16:31Um

16:33by about eight or nine spaces.

16:38I think now it's showing 36 and I think

16:39the required with what the zoning said

16:41it would be around 27.

16:44>> Okay.

16:47And I think you mentioned this but um

16:54in terms of the usage I guess at the

16:57North Alabama locations

17:00Uh I want to say I saw 10 to 8 but

17:03typically during the daytime hours um

17:07what is actually happening in the

17:09happening in the facility? I think here

17:11we're talking middle school high school.

17:13So do we anticipate

17:16things happening in there before 3 or is

17:18that kind of a summertime thing?

17:20>> I think the it's just the summertime for

17:22the the school age children. Um they can

17:25have some of the programs for the adults

17:26they mentioned in their uh

17:29description the 18-22 year olds where

17:31they can have those classes that I

17:33talked about for your CDL license and

17:34things like that that can be during the

17:36day.

17:37But typically, it's pretty quiet in

17:39there and but come 3:00, it gets pretty

17:43um it gets full.

17:46>> Yeah. So, I've I'm familiar with the

17:48location on uh

17:50Old Springville Road. That's Central

17:52Alabama. That's

17:54You know, it it doesn't typically

17:57give you a feel of like high heavily

17:59traffic but

18:00I think it adds a lot of value. We've

18:02been trying to bring as much as we can

18:04for that age demographic

18:07and that footprint.

18:10But like I said, I did hear about this

18:12was at ZAC.

18:14And I will be um

18:18meeting with the adjacent neighborhood

18:20today

18:21to

18:22talk about this as well.

18:23>> All right.

18:24>> Uh thank you.

18:27>> Okay.

18:30>> Yep. Council Tate.

18:32>> Thank you, Mr. [snorts] Chair. Um will

18:34there be like a membership fee for the

18:36the kids or will this just be free to

18:39the the young people that are in that

18:41area?

18:42>> Um most of the ones that I've dealt with

18:44before do not have a membership fee. And

18:47it's mostly uh but that's mostly for the

18:49kids who do the after school, and

18:51weekends, and summer programs. Some of

18:53the summer programs may have some sort

18:55of fee, but I'm not aware of what that

18:56would be right now.

18:57>> Okay. So, they just have different um

19:00great uh

19:02individuals that have recreational

19:04backgrounds or just backgrounds period

19:07teaching like their summer program and a

19:08programming that's enhancements.

19:11>> Or you can have specialty classes you

19:12know where they have to come in.

19:15>> Okay, so the workforce development, I

19:17did see that you were talking about a um

19:20is it a culinary um

19:23or did I read this right? Like a food

19:25service, talk a little bit about that.

19:27>> I'm sorry, I didn't hear you that well.

19:29>> food service component of the workforce

19:31>> um

19:32for future jobs.

19:35Um there won't There's not going to be

19:37any food service inside the building.

19:39It's just going to be anything that that

19:40bring in will be you know, catered or

19:42pizzas or anything like that, but um

19:44that's more job specialty job training.

19:47>> Okay.

19:48All right, thank you.

19:50>> Thank you.

19:53>> Okay.

19:55I think that's all the questions that I

19:56had. Um

20:01So

20:05>> Uh just so is your intent to use a

20:07fence?

20:09>> The fence is is a requirement

20:12um for zoning.

20:14There's a What is it? 8-ft high fence is

20:17the highest you can go in places and a

20:184-ft high and and then it and it can't

20:20be chain chain link.

20:22There's already a chain link fence up

20:24there on the front of the property uh

20:26with a gate right now.

20:28I would highly

20:30doubt that the Boys & Girls Club would

20:33uh

20:34want to fence it the whole property. I

20:36know it's just a big piece of property,

20:37but if zoning requires it, you know,

20:39they'll have to do it.

20:40I've had to do one before where there

20:41was a 10-ft wooden fence required around

20:44it in between residential area and the

20:46Boys & Girls Club, which was

20:48not cheap.

20:50>> Um

20:51Okay. Well, I think to Kim's point, she

20:53was saying that you there was an option

20:55there, but

20:56so you lean towards

20:58uh a denser buffer versus

21:01installing a fence.

21:03>> Um I I I really don't I I want to do

21:06whatever the zoning requires and

21:08whatever makes the neighborhood happy,

21:09honestly.

21:11We're not you know, we're not there to

21:13upset anybody.

21:17>> All right, we'll get some feedback cuz I

21:18don't remember that coming up at the

21:19last uh

21:21neighborhood meeting.

21:23>> Yeah,

21:23Spurlock said there was an option. So,

21:25if they go with a more heavily planted

21:28buffer, they don't have to do the fence.

21:31Um

21:33>> Right, in the ordinance, the buffer

21:35section, it gives you several options.

21:38So, a fence is not required along the

21:42property lines. You would just have to

21:44have more trees and shrubs. Um or you

21:48can have the fence and then fewer trees

21:51and shrubs on the other side of the

21:52fence. Now, for for zoning purposes, um

21:56around the playground area, a fence

21:59would be required, but that's just to

22:01protect the play the children inside the

22:03playground area.

22:05>> Right. Yeah, and I just kind of want to

22:07nail down

22:08or get a better feel for intent on um

22:14just if you intended to design with a

22:16fence

22:18or without one.

22:29All right. Yeah, looks like you drew

22:31one, I think. Did you draw a fence or a

22:32>> There's a fence around the basketball

22:34court already. I did last last time I

22:36put like a 10

22:38foot fence around it a 10 or 12 feet.

22:40There is a There is an existing fence

22:41around the whole property right now, but

22:43it's it's kind of in disrepair in in

22:45places.

22:46>> Well, I guess it turns like what you

22:48drew on this L1- or point one.

22:51Is this a fence that you sketched or is

22:54this just a property line?

22:57>> Um let me look. I believe it's property

22:59lines, probably.

23:02>> Okay.

23:03>> We'll see.

23:07Well, there's See, you can see um

23:11the X

23:13is the existing fence

23:16on the along the road of the property.

23:22That's the one that it

23:24it's not in very good shape.

23:25>> Right.

23:27Um okay. So, at what point would you

23:28actually design the project? How far

23:31down the road is that?

23:33>> Um well, we'd have to get the

23:36if the zoning isn't approved, we

23:37couldn't build it there. So, we have to

23:39get go through the zoning rezoning phase

23:42and get that approved and then we would

23:44start rezoning is what I'm

23:45understanding.

23:47Schematic design.

23:48>> So, you move right into that.

23:50You will move right into design.

23:52>> Um I hope so. We're We hope so. We've

23:54been talking about it.

23:56Just waiting on the you know, trying to

23:58go through the right process.

24:01>> Okay.

24:04I've seen like I said, I've seen the

24:06buildings that are in Central Alabama

24:08and I would imagine y'all would

24:09stay in line with what has been done uh

24:12to date, but uh I know there would be a

24:15lot of interest in

24:16in that as well.

24:19All right.

24:20Thank you, sir.

24:25Okay.

24:30>> I'll make a recommend uh motion that we

24:33recommend this to the full council for

24:35approval.

24:37>> Second.

24:39>> All right. Motion second. All in favor,

24:41say aye.

24:42>> Aye.

24:42>> Aye.

24:43>> All right. That um will go to the full

24:46council with our recommendation. Thank

24:48you.

24:48>> Thank you very much.

24:50>> All right. Next up, we have

24:53um

24:54Birmingham Planning Commission

24:56uh

24:57appointments.

25:01So

25:02some of these

25:03look we're just before us.

25:09>> Yeah, good afternoon. My name is Michael

25:10Ward. I serve as principal planner in

25:13the city's planning engineering and

25:14permits department. And so I'm just here

25:18to answer any questions on regarding the

25:20Birmingham Planning Commission

25:22appointments.

25:23>> So we

25:24appointed or the council appointed in

25:26Charles Meissner and Ron Hemner

25:30um

25:31just a couple of months ago, I believe.

25:33>> Yes.

25:33>> And Daniel Christiansen has been on the

25:37the Planning Commission for one previous

25:39term or did he fill

25:41uh

25:42a vacancy?

25:45>> Let's see. He

25:48um his original appointment was

25:51well, started in March the 18th of last

25:55year.

25:55>> Right. So he's he's only been there for

25:58a partial

26:00term cuz it's a 6-year appointment,

26:02right?

26:03>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think they've all um

26:06um filled unexpired terms.

26:09>> Right.

26:09>> Yeah.

26:10>> Okay. Um

26:14any questions from the committee?

26:19>> Um

26:20yeah, I think they committed to 6 years,

26:22so we need to give them give them that

26:24opportunity.

26:25>> Yeah. Yeah.

26:26>> Exactly.

26:28>> If they had any

26:29second thoughts, this is their

26:31opportunity to say thank you, but they

26:33haven't done that. So all of them

26:36um

26:37have expressed willingness to continue

26:39to serve.

26:41So uh

26:43I will make a motion that we recommend

26:47reappointment of these Charles Meissner,

26:49Daniel Christiansen, and Ron Hemner

26:53and their

26:56terms

26:58would expire when

27:08Is it

27:08>> Yeah, yeah.

27:10Yeah.

27:11>> 2030.

27:12>> Yeah, it would be 6 years.

27:15>> 2032.

27:16>> 2032, yes.

27:17>> That's a long time from [laughter] now.

27:20>> [snorts]

27:21>> Okay.

27:22So, that's my motion.

27:23>> Second.

27:25>> All right. All in favor say I.

27:27>> I.

27:28>> Um that's approved unanimously. And so,

27:31we also have Birmingham Historical

27:34Commission appointments.

27:35>> Yes.

27:36>> Thank you.

27:43>> Good afternoon. I'm Hannah Garmon. I

27:45serve as the historic preservation

27:47manager for the city. Um so, we have

27:49three vacancies. One due to um someone

27:53moving and then two that need to be

27:54filled. Um so, we're just asking for a

27:57recommendation. The mayor also makes a

27:59recommendation to council for the BHC.

28:03But, since council member Vassus is on

28:05our commission, we wanted to bring it to

28:07the PNC as well.

28:08>> Okay. Uh

28:12So,

28:19It's a

28:21council appointment. The council

28:23approves the appointment, but the mayor

28:25makes a recommendation.

28:27>> Yes, sir.

28:27>> Got it.

28:29All right. Um

28:32And

28:37term expires

28:39>> In a year. These are um one is filling

28:42in. Uh we had someone move, so he's

28:44taking that, but that uh

28:46uh expires next year as well. So, then

28:49we have two that will expire in uh

28:52September of 2027.

28:55>> Right.

28:57Um

29:01These are names that are familiar to me.

29:03I know Stewart Oats. He's the

29:06manages Oak Hill Cemetery. Roy Stoops

29:10works for Urban Impact.

29:13Uh

29:14tell me a little bit about Marjorie

29:15White.

29:16>> She is the president emeritus of the

29:17Birmingham Historical Society and works

29:20still with them. She's been around a

29:22long time.

29:24>> Great.

29:25Sounds like a good person for the uh

29:29Birmingham Historical Commission.

29:31>> We're very excited about these um

29:32individuals willing to join us.

29:35>> Okay. Great.

29:37Any questions from the committee?

29:39>> I'll

29:41recommend these three individuals.

29:44>> Second.

29:46>> All right. All in favor, say aye.

29:47>> Aye.

29:48>> Aye.

29:49That passes

29:50unanimously. Um any new or old business?

29:56Motion to adjourn.

29:59>> Second.

29:59>> All in favor, say aye.

30:01>> Aye.

30:01>> Aye. Meeting adjourned. Thank you.

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