2026-09-08 - Planning and Zoning Committee
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- The committee approved the minutes of its July 28 and August 25, 2026 meetings.
- Rezoning at 1259 Huffman Road (Spring Lake neighborhood): about 4.5 acres from D3 single-family residential to C1 neighborhood commercial for a new Boys and Girls Club of Central Alabama, serving middle and high school youth with workforce training, roughly 50 youth at a time and a 1 to 18 staff ratio. See Boys and Girls Club Rezoning on Huffman Road.
- Staff said the neighborhood association voted 7 to 0 in favor, while the Zoning Advisory Committee voted to not recommend (heard as 1 to 3) after nearby residents raised noise, traffic and past-use environmental concerns.
- Staff comments on the site plan: move front-yard parking and the dumpster, combine lots, and add landscape buffers (or fencing) where it abuts residential zoning. The architect said an alternate plan with side parking exists, the land was donated, and environmental testing would be done as due diligence.
- The committee unanimously recommended the rezoning to the full council.
- The committee unanimously recommended reappointing three members to the Birmingham Planning Commission for six-year terms.
- The committee unanimously recommended three people to fill vacancies on the Birmingham Historical Commission. See Board and Commission Appointments.
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- Council meeting video and agenda archive: https://www.birminghamal.gov/government/city-council/council/city-council-meeting-video-portal-archives
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00:0026, we'll call this meeting to order.
00:03First item
00:05of business is consideration of the
00:07minutes from the July 28th, 2026 and
00:11August 25th, 2026 meetings.
00:19>> Move approval of both of the
00:21aforementioned meeting minutes.
00:24>> All right, all in favor say aye. Aye.
00:26>> Aye.
00:27>> Those minutes are approved. Our next
00:31item is ZAC 2026
00:3408007.
00:41>> Good afternoon.
00:43My name is Kim Spral. I service the
00:45zoning administrator for the city of
00:47Birmingham in planning, engineering, and
00:49permits. Um this is a rezoning case um
00:53located at 1259 Huffman Road in the
00:56Spring Lake neighborhood. The applicant
00:59is requesting to rezone the property
01:01from D3 single-family residential to C1,
01:05which is neighborhood commercial, so
01:07that they can build a new Boys and Girls
01:09Club of Central Alabama. The property is
01:12about 4 and 1/2 acres. It's currently
01:15D3. It's mostly vacant. There's a small
01:18shed on the very back of the property.
01:21You can when you drive by it, all you
01:23can see is the roof of the shed because
01:26of the topo.
01:28Um property to the north is zone D3 city
01:31of Birmingham single-family residential.
01:34To [snorts] the south is a mix of
01:36Jefferson County zoning. There's A1,
01:39which is our agricultural district, and
01:41C1, which is their Jefferson County
01:44commercial district. To the east is zone
01:47D3 city of Birmingham. And then to the
01:50west is a mixture of Jefferson County
01:53and city of Birmingham zoning. Um it's
01:56institutional one for Jefferson County,
01:59R1 Jefferson County, and then D2 City of
02:03Birmingham.
02:04Um, the applicant is here, so I'll let
02:07him explain in more details what they're
02:09proposing, um, but they are planning on
02:12building a new Boys and Girls Club of
02:14Central Alabama at this site. Their
02:17anticipated hours of operation are
02:19Monday through Saturday from 9:00 to
02:228:00. Um, it'll be targeted specifically
02:25for middle and high school youth, and
02:28they'll also have, um, some workforce
02:30skills that will be available to other
02:32students um, and young adults, um, in
02:36the area.
02:37Um, programming is also planned to be
02:39available after school on weekends and
02:42then in the summer when school is not in
02:44session. Um, they will maintain a 1:18
02:49staff to youth ratio.
02:51Um, they plan on having approximately 50
02:54youth at this location, which would
02:56require three staff members, and then
02:59depending on what the activities are,
03:01they may need to increase those numbers
03:03during the day.
03:04Um, the long-range land use plan for
03:06this area does identify the property as
03:09residential low density.
03:12Um, we'll go over a few of the staff
03:14comments. Um, the site plan, and the
03:16applicant is willing to work on the site
03:18plan with some of these zoning comments
03:20just so you guys are aware. Um, there is
03:23parking in a front yard, so they'll have
03:25to move the parking lot to the side or
03:27rear the building to avoid having to go
03:30through the variance process.
03:32Um, then we will verify that they meet
03:34their parking maximum, that they don't
03:37go over their parking requirement. Um,
03:39the dumpster is in the front yard, so
03:42it'll need to be moved back just
03:44slightly so that it's even with the
03:45building. Um, if the property's not
03:48already one lot, it will have to be
03:50re-surveyed into one lot.
03:52And then we do have the fencing
03:54requirement that it cannot be taller
03:56than 4 ft in a front yard because there
03:59are adjacent residential properties.
04:03The landscaping plan does appear to meet
04:05all the city requirements. Um we will
04:07just need to look at if the property is
04:09rezoned to make sure that there is a
04:12buffer along the property lines that
04:16will abut the single-family district. So
04:19an additional landscape buffer will be
04:21required in those portions.
04:24Um before they apply for a building
04:26permit, they will have to get their
04:27solar erosion control permit and civil
04:30construction permit. This property is
04:32not in a special flood hazard area and
04:35the Department of Transportation did not
04:37have any comments related to this site.
04:41Um this is in the northeast framework
04:43plan area, so they have already gone
04:45through their rezoning process. The
04:47applicant met with the Spring Lake
04:49Neighborhood Association on August 13th
04:52of this year and they voted unanimously
04:547 to 0 to approve this rezoning request.
04:59Last week at the Zoning Advisory
05:01Committee meeting, ZAC voted 1 to 3 to
05:05not recommend and I wanted to clarify
05:09where they kind of where that vote came
05:11from.
05:12There were three residents from the area
05:15who attended the meeting. It was a
05:17husband and wife and then there was
05:20another woman who lived behind the site.
05:24Um the husband and wife were concerned
05:26because the husband is um drives tractor
05:29trailers at night and he sleeps during
05:31the day. So he was concerned about the
05:34noise that the children might make if
05:36they're playing outside during the day
05:39on the basketball court or the
05:40pickleball courts.
05:43Um
05:44they also shared some concerns about
05:47traffic in the area. Um Um although our
05:50transportation department did not
05:52require a traffic study for this site.
05:55Um and then the woman who lives behind
05:58the site, um she kind of gave a lengthy
06:01discussion about the history of this
06:03site and said that um she had
06:06environmental concerns with it because
06:08it was her understanding that a gas
06:11company used to own that site years ago
06:14and she was concerned that there might
06:16be environmental issues associated with
06:19the site. Um and and that was pretty
06:22much her concern is just making sure
06:24that the property um was clean and safe
06:27for the children. Um so that was why the
06:30ZAC voted 1 to 3 to not support the
06:35request. Um but the applicant is here.
06:38He can answer any questions that you
06:40guys have or elaborate on any of the
06:42activities that will be occurring at the
06:44site.
06:46And that concludes our staff report.
06:48>> Right. Before you leave, um I have a
06:51question. So in the maps that were
06:53supplied to us, are
06:56all of the areas that are unshaded, are
06:59those
07:00Jefferson County or
07:04some other jurisdiction?
07:07>> Yes, the ones that are unshaded are the
07:09Jefferson County properties. The ones
07:12that are zoned um agriculture,
07:16Jefferson County neighborhood
07:17commercial, um and Jefferson County
07:20institutional.
07:22>> Okay.
07:24So
07:26it looks like there's a
07:29church to the north of the property on
07:32Huffman Road.
07:33>> That's correct. That's
07:35Yeah, that is single-family residential.
07:38>> Okay. And Jefferson County.
07:40>> Mhm.
07:41>> And and to the
07:43the south
07:45there it looks like those are
07:46residential structures.
07:47>> It's a mix of residential and there's a
07:50few commercial structures in there
07:52because it is Jefferson County
07:53commercial and agriculture to the south.
07:58>> Okay.
08:00And then across Huffman Road
08:03>> it's Jefferson County institutional
08:07Jefferson County single-family and then
08:09City of Birmingham single-family.
08:11>> Got you.
08:12>> It's this area is kind of a hodgepodge
08:14of zoning.
08:15>> Right, right, right. Okay, got you.
08:18Okay, that's that's it.
08:20Yep.
08:28Hello.
08:28>> Hi.
08:30I am Jeff Tosh, um the architect for the
08:33project.
08:34Um
08:35I live at 518 47th Street South.
08:39Um
08:40Kim kind of went over all the
08:42the items with the building.
08:44Uh it's typical Boys & Girls Club type
08:47functions. Let's see, you know, I've got
08:49a little list.
08:53Um
08:57Uh there's as as she said, 1 to 18 staff
09:00to youth ratio.
09:02Um
09:03there's a future ready teens program
09:06focus with uh financial literacy, GED
09:09preparation
09:10life skills and goal setting, academic
09:13enrichment, youth leadership and voice.
09:16There's also a um
09:20a few things in place like you can
09:22uh get your CDL driver's license uh
09:25training, work-based learning, skilled
09:27trades, food service industry
09:31and health care training for some of the
09:33a few of the older people. But, um it's
09:36mostly for teenage, middle school to
09:38high school.
09:39Um, they need the space, um, cuz the
09:41other facility fills up.
09:43Um,
09:45the property was donated to them,
09:48uh,
09:49and the property's value is somewhere
09:51around $113,000,
09:53I believe. But, um, this is my fourth
09:56project with the Boys and Girls Club,
09:58the first one with, uh, Central
10:01Alabama. The other three have been with
10:03North Alabama.
10:04Um, but all four projects that I've been
10:06involved with, all the properties have
10:07been donated.
10:08>> Okay.
10:09>> Um,
10:11>> So, um,
10:13the Boys and Girls Club that I'm
10:14familiar with is the AG Gaston, um,
10:18building over in Five Points West.
10:21>> Yeah.
10:21>> Would the, it be a similar type of
10:24layout?
10:25>> The site plan is all that has really
10:28been drawn right now. I've got examples
10:30of the other, the previous three, if
10:32you'd like to see them. Um,
10:35they're generally metal buildings. The
10:36one in Athens is full of four-sided
10:38brick. Um, I haven't, we haven't
10:40discussed budget or anything like that,
10:42but basically the 7,500 square feet is,
10:46um, an open space where we can have all
10:49these training classes. It will have
10:51basketball goals in there. Um,
10:54>> Mhm.
10:54>> there's a space out back for a
10:55pickleball court and basketball goal
10:57also, but the property's 4 and 1/2
10:59acres, so there's
11:01substantial amounts of room out there.
11:04>> Yeah.
11:04>> Um,
11:05the
11:06As far as the environmental concerns,
11:09um, we we haven't gone far enough to,
11:12you know, to test the site or anything
11:14like that yet. We would, you know,
11:15definitely do our due diligence with
11:16anything like that. I haven't been made
11:18aware, we do have a survey. Um, there is
11:21a metal building in the middle of it.
11:22It's very small. It's old and it'll
11:24probably be torn down. And right now
11:26that area is not really even around
11:29where the building location is. Um,
11:32the parking that we discussed
11:34uh that was previously brought up. I
11:36I've already done another site plan with
11:38the parking on the side just as an
11:39option. It just happened to be the one
11:41we submitted had the one uh along the
11:43road just because of uh really just
11:45thinking about economics.
11:47Um,
11:48as far as the noise, I mean, if y'all
11:51been on Huffman Road before, it's a it
11:53is a well-traveled road. Um,
11:55there's a couple of car dealerships,
11:57there's uh a few churches, there's
11:59retail. There is residential, but um
12:02you know,
12:03as far as the location of where the two
12:06people that lived and their concerns
12:09about the noise,
12:11honestly, I don't think that's going to
12:12be an issue because if you're that road
12:14already during the day, if you're there
12:15at noon on a Tuesday,
12:18it would be difficult to have a
12:19conversation back and forth across the
12:20street. And we're talking about another
12:23600-800 ft and then the building and
12:26then the playgrounds in the behind that.
12:29And we would definitely be respectful of
12:30any kind of
12:31residential buffers, you know, that the
12:33zoning requires because you know, that's
12:36it's important, you know.
12:37>> Yeah.
12:39Um,
12:41so yeah, the
12:44looking at the site plan,
12:46um it looks like
12:49the
12:50area to where the buildings and parking
12:53lot and
12:55uh
12:55basketball court would be located is
12:57roughly a quarter to a third of the
13:00piece of property. Um,
13:02and I was just wondering,
13:04you know, what the setback from
13:08say like, you know, in this site plan
13:11that we have,
13:13uh what the setback to the back property
13:15line would be. It looks like, you know,
13:17maybe
13:19couple hundred feet at least.
13:20>> Right. And the required setback is not
13:24very much. I want to say it's like the
13:25max on the back I want to say is 20, and
13:27the sides are five. The back may even be
13:30five.
13:31>> Okay.
13:33Um
13:34>> But we're a good distance, and even
13:35moving the If we move the parking lot to
13:37the side, that's just going to move the
13:39building further away from the
13:40residential area, too.
13:42>> Right.
13:43>> And the playgrounds would be in the back
13:45behind the building.
13:50>> So, I guess this is a question for
13:53staff. Is there a buffer requirement for
13:56for this?
14:02>> Yes, sir. Anywhere the property when if
14:04it's rezoned to C1, any abutting
14:08property that's zoned
14:11less than C1 to any D districts would
14:14require an additional landscape buffer.
14:16>> Okay. And
14:18um
14:18>> And that's on all sides, not just the
14:21side or the rear. That would include
14:23some planting in the front as well along
14:25Huffman Road.
14:27>> Okay. So, a fence and some
14:30landscape plants?
14:32>> It So, there are several options. So, if
14:35you don't do a fence, then you have to
14:37have a denser landscape buffer, or you
14:41can have a more narrower buffer with a
14:43fence and with plantings. So, we do give
14:47them options to choose from.
14:50>> Okay.
14:50>> And I think they're they're totally okay
14:53with adhering to whatever the buffer
14:55requirement. They're okay with choosing
14:57one of our options.
14:59>> Got you.
15:00All right.
15:03Any questions from the committee?
15:05Councilwoman This is your council
15:07district.
15:08>> Yeah. Thank [clears throat] you.
15:09>> Uh
15:10I can what you were refer
15:12what you were describing, that meets the
15:14needs of a B buffer.
15:16Okay.
15:18>> Yes, sir. That's the one that would be
15:19required.
15:21>> All right. And then moving the parking
15:24I guess where where have you in your
15:26mind situated the new location for the
15:28parking?
15:30>> I was thinking we move the building to
15:32the south
15:34um east and turn the
15:36parking 90° where it's in between
15:40whatever landscape buffer for that it's
15:42an abandoned church right now next door
15:44>> Okay.
15:44>> and then the parking and then the
15:46building.
15:47>> All right, so you more so center the
15:49building
15:50>> Yeah, we move a little further south.
15:53>> Okay.
15:57>> I think the one thing that the zoning
15:58wants to do with that too is to make
16:00sure that the parking is separated from
16:02the drop-off area for safety reasons for
16:04the kids.
16:06Which makes sense.
16:09>> Okay, so you would still have a
16:12drive that goes across the face of the
16:14building or front of the building.
16:15>> Right, we would still have some sort of
16:16drop-off.
16:17>> Okay.
16:21>> And the parking that's shown is the
16:22parking that I calculated. Um the zoning
16:25the comments in the zoning that we
16:27received actually requires less parking
16:29than that.
16:31Um
16:33by about eight or nine spaces.
16:38I think now it's showing 36 and I think
16:39the required with what the zoning said
16:41it would be around 27.
16:44>> Okay.
16:47And I think you mentioned this but um
16:54in terms of the usage I guess at the
16:57North Alabama locations
17:00Uh I want to say I saw 10 to 8 but
17:03typically during the daytime hours um
17:07what is actually happening in the
17:09happening in the facility? I think here
17:11we're talking middle school high school.
17:13So do we anticipate
17:16things happening in there before 3 or is
17:18that kind of a summertime thing?
17:20>> I think the it's just the summertime for
17:22the the school age children. Um they can
17:25have some of the programs for the adults
17:26they mentioned in their uh
17:29description the 18-22 year olds where
17:31they can have those classes that I
17:33talked about for your CDL license and
17:34things like that that can be during the
17:36day.
17:37But typically, it's pretty quiet in
17:39there and but come 3:00, it gets pretty
17:43um it gets full.
17:46>> Yeah. So, I've I'm familiar with the
17:48location on uh
17:50Old Springville Road. That's Central
17:52Alabama. That's
17:54You know, it it doesn't typically
17:57give you a feel of like high heavily
17:59traffic but
18:00I think it adds a lot of value. We've
18:02been trying to bring as much as we can
18:04for that age demographic
18:07and that footprint.
18:10But like I said, I did hear about this
18:12was at ZAC.
18:14And I will be um
18:18meeting with the adjacent neighborhood
18:20today
18:21to
18:22talk about this as well.
18:23>> All right.
18:24>> Uh thank you.
18:27>> Okay.
18:30>> Yep. Council Tate.
18:32>> Thank you, Mr. [snorts] Chair. Um will
18:34there be like a membership fee for the
18:36the kids or will this just be free to
18:39the the young people that are in that
18:41area?
18:42>> Um most of the ones that I've dealt with
18:44before do not have a membership fee. And
18:47it's mostly uh but that's mostly for the
18:49kids who do the after school, and
18:51weekends, and summer programs. Some of
18:53the summer programs may have some sort
18:55of fee, but I'm not aware of what that
18:56would be right now.
18:57>> Okay. So, they just have different um
19:00great uh
19:02individuals that have recreational
19:04backgrounds or just backgrounds period
19:07teaching like their summer program and a
19:08programming that's enhancements.
19:11>> Or you can have specialty classes you
19:12know where they have to come in.
19:15>> Okay, so the workforce development, I
19:17did see that you were talking about a um
19:20is it a culinary um
19:23or did I read this right? Like a food
19:25service, talk a little bit about that.
19:27>> I'm sorry, I didn't hear you that well.
19:29>> food service component of the workforce
19:31>> um
19:32for future jobs.
19:35Um there won't There's not going to be
19:37any food service inside the building.
19:39It's just going to be anything that that
19:40bring in will be you know, catered or
19:42pizzas or anything like that, but um
19:44that's more job specialty job training.
19:47>> Okay.
19:48All right, thank you.
19:50>> Thank you.
19:53>> Okay.
19:55I think that's all the questions that I
19:56had. Um
20:01So
20:05>> Uh just so is your intent to use a
20:07fence?
20:09>> The fence is is a requirement
20:12um for zoning.
20:14There's a What is it? 8-ft high fence is
20:17the highest you can go in places and a
20:184-ft high and and then it and it can't
20:20be chain chain link.
20:22There's already a chain link fence up
20:24there on the front of the property uh
20:26with a gate right now.
20:28I would highly
20:30doubt that the Boys & Girls Club would
20:33uh
20:34want to fence it the whole property. I
20:36know it's just a big piece of property,
20:37but if zoning requires it, you know,
20:39they'll have to do it.
20:40I've had to do one before where there
20:41was a 10-ft wooden fence required around
20:44it in between residential area and the
20:46Boys & Girls Club, which was
20:48not cheap.
20:50>> Um
20:51Okay. Well, I think to Kim's point, she
20:53was saying that you there was an option
20:55there, but
20:56so you lean towards
20:58uh a denser buffer versus
21:01installing a fence.
21:03>> Um I I I really don't I I want to do
21:06whatever the zoning requires and
21:08whatever makes the neighborhood happy,
21:09honestly.
21:11We're not you know, we're not there to
21:13upset anybody.
21:17>> All right, we'll get some feedback cuz I
21:18don't remember that coming up at the
21:19last uh
21:21neighborhood meeting.
21:23>> Yeah,
21:23Spurlock said there was an option. So,
21:25if they go with a more heavily planted
21:28buffer, they don't have to do the fence.
21:31Um
21:33>> Right, in the ordinance, the buffer
21:35section, it gives you several options.
21:38So, a fence is not required along the
21:42property lines. You would just have to
21:44have more trees and shrubs. Um or you
21:48can have the fence and then fewer trees
21:51and shrubs on the other side of the
21:52fence. Now, for for zoning purposes, um
21:56around the playground area, a fence
21:59would be required, but that's just to
22:01protect the play the children inside the
22:03playground area.
22:05>> Right. Yeah, and I just kind of want to
22:07nail down
22:08or get a better feel for intent on um
22:14just if you intended to design with a
22:16fence
22:18or without one.
22:29All right. Yeah, looks like you drew
22:31one, I think. Did you draw a fence or a
22:32>> There's a fence around the basketball
22:34court already. I did last last time I
22:36put like a 10
22:38foot fence around it a 10 or 12 feet.
22:40There is a There is an existing fence
22:41around the whole property right now, but
22:43it's it's kind of in disrepair in in
22:45places.
22:46>> Well, I guess it turns like what you
22:48drew on this L1- or point one.
22:51Is this a fence that you sketched or is
22:54this just a property line?
22:57>> Um let me look. I believe it's property
22:59lines, probably.
23:02>> Okay.
23:03>> We'll see.
23:07Well, there's See, you can see um
23:11the X
23:13is the existing fence
23:16on the along the road of the property.
23:22That's the one that it
23:24it's not in very good shape.
23:25>> Right.
23:27Um okay. So, at what point would you
23:28actually design the project? How far
23:31down the road is that?
23:33>> Um well, we'd have to get the
23:36if the zoning isn't approved, we
23:37couldn't build it there. So, we have to
23:39get go through the zoning rezoning phase
23:42and get that approved and then we would
23:44start rezoning is what I'm
23:45understanding.
23:47Schematic design.
23:48>> So, you move right into that.
23:50You will move right into design.
23:52>> Um I hope so. We're We hope so. We've
23:54been talking about it.
23:56Just waiting on the you know, trying to
23:58go through the right process.
24:01>> Okay.
24:04I've seen like I said, I've seen the
24:06buildings that are in Central Alabama
24:08and I would imagine y'all would
24:09stay in line with what has been done uh
24:12to date, but uh I know there would be a
24:15lot of interest in
24:16in that as well.
24:19All right.
24:20Thank you, sir.
24:25Okay.
24:30>> I'll make a recommend uh motion that we
24:33recommend this to the full council for
24:35approval.
24:37>> Second.
24:39>> All right. Motion second. All in favor,
24:41say aye.
24:42>> Aye.
24:42>> Aye.
24:43>> All right. That um will go to the full
24:46council with our recommendation. Thank
24:48you.
24:48>> Thank you very much.
24:50>> All right. Next up, we have
24:53um
24:54Birmingham Planning Commission
24:56uh
24:57appointments.
25:01So
25:02some of these
25:03look we're just before us.
25:09>> Yeah, good afternoon. My name is Michael
25:10Ward. I serve as principal planner in
25:13the city's planning engineering and
25:14permits department. And so I'm just here
25:18to answer any questions on regarding the
25:20Birmingham Planning Commission
25:22appointments.
25:23>> So we
25:24appointed or the council appointed in
25:26Charles Meissner and Ron Hemner
25:30um
25:31just a couple of months ago, I believe.
25:33>> Yes.
25:33>> And Daniel Christiansen has been on the
25:37the Planning Commission for one previous
25:39term or did he fill
25:41uh
25:42a vacancy?
25:45>> Let's see. He
25:48um his original appointment was
25:51well, started in March the 18th of last
25:55year.
25:55>> Right. So he's he's only been there for
25:58a partial
26:00term cuz it's a 6-year appointment,
26:02right?
26:03>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think they've all um
26:06um filled unexpired terms.
26:09>> Right.
26:09>> Yeah.
26:10>> Okay. Um
26:14any questions from the committee?
26:19>> Um
26:20yeah, I think they committed to 6 years,
26:22so we need to give them give them that
26:24opportunity.
26:25>> Yeah. Yeah.
26:26>> Exactly.
26:28>> If they had any
26:29second thoughts, this is their
26:31opportunity to say thank you, but they
26:33haven't done that. So all of them
26:36um
26:37have expressed willingness to continue
26:39to serve.
26:41So uh
26:43I will make a motion that we recommend
26:47reappointment of these Charles Meissner,
26:49Daniel Christiansen, and Ron Hemner
26:53and their
26:56terms
26:58would expire when
27:08Is it
27:08>> Yeah, yeah.
27:10Yeah.
27:11>> 2030.
27:12>> Yeah, it would be 6 years.
27:15>> 2032.
27:16>> 2032, yes.
27:17>> That's a long time from [laughter] now.
27:20>> [snorts]
27:21>> Okay.
27:22So, that's my motion.
27:23>> Second.
27:25>> All right. All in favor say I.
27:27>> I.
27:28>> Um that's approved unanimously. And so,
27:31we also have Birmingham Historical
27:34Commission appointments.
27:35>> Yes.
27:36>> Thank you.
27:43>> Good afternoon. I'm Hannah Garmon. I
27:45serve as the historic preservation
27:47manager for the city. Um so, we have
27:49three vacancies. One due to um someone
27:53moving and then two that need to be
27:54filled. Um so, we're just asking for a
27:57recommendation. The mayor also makes a
27:59recommendation to council for the BHC.
28:03But, since council member Vassus is on
28:05our commission, we wanted to bring it to
28:07the PNC as well.
28:08>> Okay. Uh
28:12So,
28:19It's a
28:21council appointment. The council
28:23approves the appointment, but the mayor
28:25makes a recommendation.
28:27>> Yes, sir.
28:27>> Got it.
28:29All right. Um
28:32And
28:37term expires
28:39>> In a year. These are um one is filling
28:42in. Uh we had someone move, so he's
28:44taking that, but that uh
28:46uh expires next year as well. So, then
28:49we have two that will expire in uh
28:52September of 2027.
28:55>> Right.
28:57Um
29:01These are names that are familiar to me.
29:03I know Stewart Oats. He's the
29:06manages Oak Hill Cemetery. Roy Stoops
29:10works for Urban Impact.
29:13Uh
29:14tell me a little bit about Marjorie
29:15White.
29:16>> She is the president emeritus of the
29:17Birmingham Historical Society and works
29:20still with them. She's been around a
29:22long time.
29:24>> Great.
29:25Sounds like a good person for the uh
29:29Birmingham Historical Commission.
29:31>> We're very excited about these um
29:32individuals willing to join us.
29:35>> Okay. Great.
29:37Any questions from the committee?
29:39>> I'll
29:41recommend these three individuals.
29:44>> Second.
29:46>> All right. All in favor, say aye.
29:47>> Aye.
29:48>> Aye.
29:49That passes
29:50unanimously. Um any new or old business?
29:56Motion to adjourn.
29:59>> Second.
29:59>> All in favor, say aye.
30:01>> Aye.
30:01>> Aye. Meeting adjourned. Thank you.
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