2026-10-27 - Police Commission
Summary
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- The agenda was amended by voice vote to move the annual report to the next monthly meeting because of time and attendance, and the previous month's minutes were approved. Public comment drew no speakers.
- The Chief presented monthly police data. Sworn staffing stands at 55 officers, a concern raised repeatedly. August was a busy month, with a homicide and an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon both cleared with arrests within four days.
- Foot and directed patrols were down, which the Chief attributed to staffing. Tickets remain down after the City Circle program ended on June 30 for lack of funding.
- An impact cohort of 64 people accounts for about 19% of incidents year to date, mostly trespass and suspicious-activity calls. The Chief said there is no stable-housing pathway for them and called for more shelter capacity and mental health partners.
- Commissioners discussed the police role in repeat offenses and what police should and should not be sent to respond to.
- Commendations were read, including a Mayor's commendation for a multi-department cleanup of College Street, and the animal control committee reported a decision on a dog case. The complaints committee met after adjournment.
- See Police Chief Hiring Process for the permanent chief search.
Agenda
- Call to order, roll call and quorum, additions or modifications to the agenda
- Adopt minutes of the previous meeting
- Public forum
- Police Department business: Chief's report
- Commission business
- Committee reports: Complaints, Animal Control
- Discussion of the annual report
- Commendations: BPD commendations
- Announcement of next meeting date (11/24/2026)
- Adjournment
Sources
- Agenda: https://burlingtonvt.api.civicclerk.com/v1/Meetings/GetMeetingFileStream(fileId=21432,plainText=false)
- Event page: https://burlingtonvt.portal.civicclerk.com/event/10274/files
- Video: https://www.youtube.com/live/NzGjWBOQrZ0
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Transcript
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Transcript
00:00this meeting of the Burlington Police
00:01Commission. I'm Michaela Fineran. I'm
00:03the chair of the commission. We will
00:05start with roll call and determination
00:06of quorum. Commissioner Jorio
00:10>> here. Commissioner Paul
00:13>> uh here.
00:14>> Commissioner von Herman
00:17>> and Commissioners Fast Deer and
00:19Cummifford are absent. We have a quorum.
00:22I will note for the record that we are
00:24losing our quorum at 7:00. So we are
00:26going to try to get through our agenda
00:28quickly. Um, next item is the agenda. I
00:32would like to move to remove the annual
00:35report from the agenda and add it to
00:37next month's meeting given our numbers
00:38tonight and our time constraint.
00:41Is there a second?
00:43>> Can I make a comment?
00:44>> We discuss after the second.
00:46>> Second.
00:47>> Yes. Thank you.
00:48>> Um, my comment is that I would like to
00:50make sure that we have our planned
00:53meeting next month and that we vote on
00:55this item next month.
00:56>> Great. Any other comments?
01:01Um, all those in favor?
01:04>> I
01:04>> I
01:05>> I
01:06>> I
01:08>> Commissioner Paul,
01:11>> uh, I
01:13>> thank you. Okay, the agenda is amended.
01:17Is there a motion to adopt the agenda?
01:21>> So moved.
01:22>> I second. All those in favor?
01:24>> I
01:25>> I
01:25>> I. Any opposed? The adoption. The agenda
01:29is adopted. I louder than usual. Okay.
01:35Um, next up on our agenda is the minutes
01:37from our previous month. Is there a
01:39motion to approve the previous month's
01:40minutes?
01:42>> So moved.
01:43>> Move that.
01:44>> Great. Uh, all those in favor say I.
01:47>> I.
01:47>> I. Any opposed? The eyes carry. The
01:51previous month's minutes are adopted.
01:54Next up, we have public comment. I don't
01:56think we have anyone in person. Do we
01:58have anyone online who would like to be
02:00heard during public comment?
02:04>> No one online.
02:05>> Great. Thank you. Okay. Next, we have
02:09police department business. So, Chief, I
02:11will turn it over to you.
02:13>> Thank you.
02:15Through the exercise here, sharing my
02:16screen, I hope.
02:36All right. So, as found in the packet,
02:37we have our standard monthly data report
02:39that I use both with the public safety
02:41committee and with the police
02:43commission. The first graph is just
02:44topline incident response data for the
02:47entire organization and it's uh you know
02:49shows the last four years. The next
02:52chart is our staffing which is really of
02:56great deal of concern on the sworn side
02:58of the house. So this shows here on the
03:01chart where we have 55 sworn officers in
03:04total. There's 44 of us currently that
03:07are serviceable. when you remove folks
03:10that are in places like the Vermont
03:12Police Academy training, one officer in
03:14field training, uh, one officer remains
03:17on long-term military leave, two on
03:19administrative leave, and then injuries.
03:22So, uh, the team has been working really
03:24hard, short staffed, especially in the
03:27month of August, which was a tough month
03:29here for the community. Moving along,
03:32this next graph graph is uh one that we
03:37were showing about uh the number of
03:39calls that were remaining stacked in the
03:41dispatch center. We realized that that
03:44require that process requires the
03:46dispatcher to actually change the status
03:47within our records management system and
03:49there may be some human error in that.
03:51So what Jeff has done here is gone back
03:54through and mapped out calls that uh
03:57took us an hour or more to respond to.
04:00And you'll see that that rate was uh
04:03much more dramatic in 2024. And then
04:06against our staffing odds through 25 and
04:0926, we're being much more timely in our
04:12responses to incidents.
04:16Next graph is our our patrols here. The
04:19red line being 2026. This is foot and
04:22directed patrols by all members. So CSL,
04:25CSOS, and sworn officers were down this
04:27year. in that I attribute to our lack of
04:30personnel for assignment, but we're
04:32still uh at or above those same efforts
04:36that were a foot, no pun intended, in 23
04:38and 24.
04:42The next three graphs are the incident
04:45most common incident types for CSOS,
04:48CSLs, and sworn officers. Again, August
04:52uh was a busy month when you look back
04:54over the 12-month trends, but really
04:56nothing out of the norm here that uh I
04:59need to to call out. I just always like
05:01to raise the issue that is effectively
05:04that as we're using our CSOS and CSLs,
05:08of course, there's a limit to what
05:10professional staff can actually attend
05:12to. And a bulk of our work still falls
05:15upon our sworn officers to attend to.
05:17And when you think about um our our
05:20available officers, particularly in
05:21Uniform Service Bureau, it's only about
05:2320 officers to cover 24 hours a day,
05:26seven days a week. They're working
05:27extraordinarily hard.
05:31Moving along here, uh we've been the
05:34police department's had to be very
05:35responsive to conditions in and around
05:38City Hall Park and downtown in general.
05:40uh in in response to uh you know the the
05:43resolution that is being debated now
05:46greater call for presence and
05:49enforcement in the downtown area. This
05:52graph shows incidents in which we're
05:54responding to city hall park. So
05:56extracted from this are all proactive
05:59incidents u outreach foot patrols
06:02directed patrols. These are really calls
06:04from the public into the police
06:06department. And you'll see that although
06:072026 has been uh busy in that regard, it
06:11has not been as busy as it was in 2025.
06:14That's not to say that the conditions
06:15that folks are experiencing in the
06:17downtown are non-existent or aren't as
06:20to what are being reported. It's just
06:22this is the number of calls that we're
06:24actually receiving from the public.
06:27in a similar fashion because we know
06:29when we do enforcement activity or even
06:32have an impresence in a place like city
06:33hall park, we know that we displace a
06:36lot of behavior because folks don't have
06:37other places to go. So we do map this
06:40same uh or chart the same data for the
06:43ambient area around city hall park which
06:45is essentially one one block out and
06:48you'll see similar trend line here again
06:50uh higher than 2023 and 2024 but not at
06:54the rate at which we were uh being
06:56called into the downtown district by by
06:59members of the public in 2025.
07:05violent incidents. And again, these are
07:07categorized a little bit differently
07:09than on the public data portal. What
07:11we're tracking here are acts of
07:13homicide, attempted homicide, reckless
07:14endangerment, robbery, uh misdemeanor
07:17assault, and felony assault. Um although
07:21we are below the rate of these offenses
07:24which was experienced in 2024 in 25
07:27August was an incredibly violent month
07:29particularly one in one uh weekend I
07:33think it was the morning of August 15th
07:35of uh 2026 was very very challenging and
07:39again worked through uh those incidents
07:42between responding officers and
07:44detectives wrapping up a homicide and an
07:47aggravated assault with a de deadly
07:48weapon with two arrests within in 4 days
07:50is really impressive work.
07:56This chart is uh simply the arrest
07:58number that the BPD has been doing over
08:01the last few years. And you'll see that
08:03despite um what we have been criticized
08:05for not enforcing the law, not being
08:08present, our arrest rate is uh is very
08:11high uh in context of what was going on
08:14in 23 and 24 in maintaining pace with uh
08:18what we were up to in 2025. I attribute
08:21this to a few different things. One is
08:25we see a great deal of non-violent
08:27recidivism in those case those uh folks
08:30oftent times will be on conditions of
08:32release or find themselves on arrest
08:34warrant status for not showing up for
08:36status conferences and those type of
08:38things. So we see um you know those
08:41categories arrest on warrant violation
08:43conditions of release retail theft and
08:46uh unlawful trespass high in this data
08:48set.
08:52drug arrests in response to the
08:54conditions downtown and what the
08:56community uh was calling out. We did
08:59spend uh some time assembling our
09:02detectives under the leadership of our
09:04detective sergeant who runs the the uh
09:07drug unit and did some targeted
09:10enforcement in the area of City Hall
09:12Park and City Hall Park itself. The
09:13numbers speak for themselves. We have
09:15been uh responsive to those conditions
09:18and uh making arrests and appropriate
09:20referrals in those cases.
09:24Tickets remain down. I attribute this
09:26largely because the city circle program
09:29ended July on Saturday on June 30th due
09:32to funding. So that program was
09:34discontinued without a lot of
09:36information being shared with the
09:39stakeholders.
09:40What I can tell you is that once city
09:43circle ceased, our officers immediately
09:46realized that there would ultimately be
09:47no accountability again for these uh
09:50city ordinance tickets. And that is not
09:53really an effective use of their time.
09:54We're still intervening in this
09:56behavior, whether it's, you know, public
09:58uh public consumption of alcohol, public
10:01urination, public drug use, and uh
10:04enforcing the ordinance. But there is
10:06little value in issuing a ticket when a
10:08person doesn't ultimately have to be
10:10responsive to it.
10:15uh top ticket types as I've reported in
10:17previous months largely centered around
10:20trespass issues and that's not
10:22surprising given the number of unhoused
10:24folks living in the downtown and really
10:26nothing remarkable in the trend lines
10:28related to tickets and warnings issued
10:31uh in the downtown area for uh you know
10:34the the affformentioned ordinance
10:36violations that I just discussed.
10:40This population grew a little bit. So um
10:43our impact cohort is 64 people now and
10:47again uh they represent about 19% of our
10:50total incidents year to date. We know uh
10:54quite a bit about uh this deidentified
10:56group. We know that 66% of them are are
10:59unhoused and when we walk through kind
11:02of how they present in our data set this
11:04is pretty logical but troubling that we
11:06don't have a solution for this. So our
11:09top 64 they account for 296 incidents of
11:13trespassund
11:15and over 170 incidents of that are
11:18suspicious in nature. And again I've
11:20I've talked about how nebulous that
11:22bucket is and why people perceive
11:24certain behaviors and report that to the
11:26police ordinance violations. And then
11:29most troubling uh you see here drugs,
11:31retail theft, and mental health issues.
11:33It really speaks to the the issues that
11:36this population is uh struggling with in
11:39a way that I wouldn't say is fully
11:41supported in the community. We do the
11:43best that we can with our community uh
11:45service liaison and our partnership with
11:46the street outreach team, but those are
11:48very short-term interventions and there
11:51is kind of lack of a formal runway to
11:54get folks to a more stable place to find
11:56success. What I also know about this
11:58population is that some of some number
12:00of them are completely service resistant
12:03as well. Um but again we don't have a
12:06very co coherent solution I would say
12:09for a lot of the disorder that people
12:11are uncomfortable with when you think
12:13about areas of city hall park, college
12:14street, the upper block of St. Paul
12:16Street.
12:21Moving along here, this is the top 64
12:23just you know their raw numbers. So the
12:26uh number one here is nearly 90
12:29incidents uh thus far this year. That
12:31person is housed and lives quietly in a
12:33neighboring community and when that
12:35person is in the Burlington area is uh
12:38quite a handful. So it's it's
12:39interesting and you'll see that it
12:42tapered down. Jeff was cutting this off
12:44around 15. He found a flat point with 17
12:47incidents and that's what really led to
12:49having 64 individuals in this particular
12:51set.
12:53What do we do with these folks? You've
12:54seen this one before. This just
12:56illustrates who has been referred to the
12:58situation table, who's in state attorney
13:01George's support court, who's been in
13:03both, and who is in treatment court. We
13:05do need to add the other layer. We know
13:07some number of these folks are under the
13:08supervision of the Department of
13:09Corrections, be it probation or parole.
13:14And then officer workload. I just like
13:15to highlight this again because of where
13:17we are with sworn officer staffing.
13:19median sworn officer respon count
13:21response count by month is uh is nearly
13:25was up at 90 is tapering down just
13:28slightly. That's a lot of work. And then
13:30when we look at this next chart here,
13:32the number of sworn officers who respond
13:34to a hundred or more incidents per month
13:38is was upward of 23. We only have 20
13:42assigned to patrol. And I know that I've
13:44got a handful of detectives that
13:46supplement patrol by working overtime.
13:48And that that amount of work is uh it's
13:51it's a lot. It's really tough to
13:52sustain. Proud of what they're doing,
13:55but I'm very very concerned that if
13:57we're not able to rec recruit new
14:00officers and retain the ones that we
14:02have, how we'll be able to handle all
14:04the work that's expected of the
14:06Burlington Police Department. So, uh
14:08with that, I know it's a bit of a
14:09lightning round, but I wanted to be
14:10efficient. I'm happy to answer any
14:12questions.
14:15>> Questions from commissioners?
14:18um where do you see your role in maybe
14:20changing the expectations of um the work
14:23of BPD such that you don't have an
14:27overwhelming number of calls for
14:29suspicious events?
14:31>> Yeah, that's a great question. I
14:32appreciate it, Commissioner Jorio. My
14:34role was unique, right? I'm here as an
14:36interim and the first charge from the
14:39mayor was to better uh synchronize the
14:41response groups that we had. So there
14:43was no plan as to what a CSL could
14:46potentially respond to, what a street
14:48outreach worker could potentially
14:49respond to absent a police officer. So
14:51we we did that. Uh we set up that
14:53protocol and I believe that that's
14:56functioning well. But like when I
14:59glossed over those three charts that
15:01shows like the by employee category
15:04who's responsible for what we know that
15:07like CSLs are very effective in a lot of
15:10these situations, but depending on
15:13danger acuity, there's still a lot of
15:15work for swarm sworn police officers.
15:17And I know that I'm probably um a little
15:21old school in my thought about what you
15:23need a police officer to go to. and uh
15:26you know maybe through the chief's
15:28process someone will have better ideas
15:31about what police don't necessarily need
15:32to respond to but I'm very very
15:35serviceoriented and I also see a lot of
15:37danger acuity a lot of unknown and I
15:40like the co-response as well so although
15:42we have a police officer and say a CSL
15:45go to an incident if the police officer
15:48can be quickly excused and CSL is safe
15:50to be there I think that's another model
15:52that we're using well but Jeff and I
15:55have talked about like how do we measure
15:56that? And it seems as though we'd have
15:58to like go into the records management
16:00system and determine like how long was
16:02the officer on scene versus the CSL to
16:04measure like how many incidents are
16:06actually going to to the CSL. So I I
16:09think there's some uh work to be done in
16:11that space. I also think that
16:14independent of the police department, we
16:16flag a lot of issues and at the end of
16:18the day, we're a referral agency and I
16:22hope that I've been the correct uh
16:25messenger that we need greater support,
16:27especially in the areas of mental
16:29health. I mean, we're a state without a
16:31forensic facility. We have very
16:33antiquated stat statutory framework
16:35about how we can get someone who's not
16:38inclined to seek care at the med center.
16:40When you think about the statutory
16:42construct and likely the legislative
16:44intent of the time at the time about the
16:48ability for us to bring someone to the
16:50hospital for an emergency evaluation, it
16:52was never contemplated that substance
16:54use disorder could could be a part of
16:56that. It has to be mental health
16:57related. So I think there's a lot of
16:59different systems challenges that would
17:02improve conditions in the community for
17:04this population that we've been talking
17:05a lot about which then the police would
17:08be kind of not even relevant for. Um, so
17:12I, you know, I think there's always new
17:14and creative ways to think about other
17:16issues, but unless we have, uh, new
17:18tools, new partners that are going to do
17:21community- based care and figure out
17:23shelter,
17:25that would just figuring out shelter
17:26alone, when you think about the number
17:28of trespass complaints we go to, that
17:30would be a huge decrease. And I know
17:32that the mayor has been uh a very strong
17:36advocate for the placement of this uh
17:38shelter that CVOE intends to run. I
17:41think you can debate the size and scale
17:44of that. Uh but I say CVEO is the
17:47experts and if they say it's 100 beds,
17:49it needs to be one facility. We should
17:51figure that out.
17:55>> On what page is this?
17:59the the page about situation table and
18:02support court, those charts, the I
18:04assume the people the bars that are
18:06white, those are people that are not
18:07involved in any of these programs.
18:10>> That's correct. What what I do know
18:12about those white bars though is that uh
18:15a number of those folks are uh either on
18:18probation or have a docket, a criminal
18:21docket in in regular court.
18:23>> Okay. Do you think that from a police
18:26perspective is situation table and
18:28support court an effective combination?
18:31>> I think they're different animals
18:33actually. So the uh situation table is
18:36really a shortterm intervention with
18:39someone that's at an elevated risk of
18:41harm to themselves or the community and
18:43the appropriate partners then go out
18:44within 24 to 48 hours and have an
18:47intervention. And you know, Burlington
18:49actually found its way uh on the map
18:51with co with uh the uh situation table
18:55engineers because they're collecting
18:58more granular detail as to the longer
19:01term issues, root causes of the behavior
19:05and maybe can then make situation table
19:09think past that 48 hour period. But it
19:12is a short-term solution. Support court.
19:14I think support court is valuable
19:17especially when uh we have got this this
19:19population on the street. They are
19:22committing nonviolent crimes. So they're
19:24not going to have bail imposed by the by
19:26the court and that's by statute. They're
19:28on the they're on the street. They have
19:30a really they have a lot of problems
19:32running their lives daytoday and it's
19:34easy to forget about a court date 30
19:36days out as opposed to you know that
19:38every Friday I have to go to court. And
19:41then within that program are are of
19:43course our uh social service providers
19:46that are there to help support these
19:49folks while they proceed through the
19:51criminal legal system. I think there
19:53could be probably some greater
19:55accountability there, more meaningful
19:57oversight on that part of support court,
19:59but I'd rather have support in this form
20:02as opposed to not have it.
20:04>> Thank you. Any other questions or
20:06comments?
20:07>> Yeah. Um, you know, I'm looking at it in
20:09a couple of couple of ways. This
20:11situation, just based on your life
20:13career experience as a police officer,
20:18uh, all the way to police chief, do you
20:20think we're asking more of our police
20:22department to do and I I know it's kind
20:25of very loaded question because looking
20:28at the charts, there's so many things
20:29that I notice even when I used to work
20:32at the transit center that the police
20:34will respond to almost all the time.
20:37um where do you see just based on your
20:41experience for the entire time that
20:42you've been doing all this?
20:45>> Yeah. No, I appreciate the question and
20:46I like to sum it up like this. So when
20:49when I was a younger police officer, we
20:51were very inexpensive and we were
20:53plentiful. So we were sent to everything
20:56and police officers to include myself,
20:58we complained about that. But because we
21:00didn't close at 4 p.m. and we were
21:02immediately available, we were the
21:05solution for the community. Now, I think
21:08that we still hold a lot of that
21:09expectation, but we've got certain
21:12conditions here in Burlington post
21:14pandemic that are overwhelming not only
21:18our our ability to provide effective
21:21police services, we're overwhelming our
21:23social service providers. you know, you
21:26don't have to read very far below the
21:28headlines to understand that we've got
21:30more people here than we can serve in
21:32Burlington. And again, like the right
21:35people are talking about how do we
21:37figure this out? But I'm concerned as
21:39we're kind of careening towards winter
21:41here, if we don't have shelter op, you
21:43know, if we don't have shelter capacity
21:45and we're going to have this number of
21:46people living on the street upwards of
21:48300, what's that going to mean for
21:50places like our emergency department and
21:52others? are know our trespass rates are
21:54going to go up and uh it doesn't put the
21:57police department in a great spot when
21:59we're moving people that are trespassing
22:01but they have nowhere to go.
22:05>> Thanks Chief. Anything else?
22:07>> Yeah, so if I can just follow up. Thank
22:10you for your very thoughtful answer to
22:12my question. I guess perhaps I'm
22:15wondering if there's something you see
22:16in
22:18um the role of the chief of BPD yourself
22:21or um your replacement soon to come um
22:26or our role as police commissioners in
22:29educating the public about I know that
22:33you know the mayor's administration has
22:35tried to do a lot of work about
22:36educating people of can they put in a
22:40ticket on cclick fix can they all parks
22:43and wreck for for situations that they
22:45have when when somebody sees some
22:47needles on the ground. A lot of
22:48Burlingtononians will pick them up and
22:50throw them away and that's it. Some
22:52people will make a note for some other
22:54agency because they don't have time. And
22:56some people will call the police. And
22:58I'm unsure how it works in dispatch on
23:00your end when somebody calls and they're
23:02like, "That's not a crime." And I I
23:04don't know if because of your extensive
23:07um work experience, as you said, when
23:11policing was different than it is now
23:13and you had fewer and different
23:15expectations than you do now, that you
23:17went to everything. If that has sort of
23:19evolved and that there is some education
23:22on your end to telling people that you
23:24will not respond and not from any place
23:26of malice or that you don't want to but
23:30because it's just simply not the correct
23:32response or if you think that that is
23:34something perhaps we could do if you
23:36think there's another organization that
23:38you think could do that work.
23:41No, that's a that's a great followup.
23:43And I think, you know, we do a better
23:45job of screening those uh those calls
23:48out. I think the uh the communication
23:52um
23:54plan that the mayor put out, I you know,
23:56it's it's like a one pager of who to
23:58call for what. I think that's been very
24:00very effective. I think particularly
24:02residents know when the UC cick fix,
24:05when to call the CSO line as opposed to
24:08when to call the police department. So I
24:10don't necessarily see that as the
24:12challenge. What I do see as the
24:13challenge are of um leading to like
24:17repeat calls are the conditions downtown
24:20where we have maybe someone was living
24:22on College Street. We make some efforts
24:25to address College Street. We know they
24:27displace those folks and just by way of
24:29example now we've got some uh some
24:32friction points on Cherry Street. So
24:34without, you know, a a solution there,
24:37which it's not incumbent on the police
24:39department to figure out the a shelter,
24:41a daytime shelter or a nighttime
24:43shelter, you know, the there's
24:45frustration that comes from the
24:47community, which leads to increased
24:48calls and then increased narrative about
24:51why are you not enforcing the laws? Why,
24:53you know, these these things that aren't
24:56necessarily ripe for arrest, referral,
24:59we're not going to solve it that way.
25:00So, I don't see it as as um we're being
25:04called too often for things that we're
25:07not necessarily the solution for, but
25:09there's definitely
25:12behaviors associated with this
25:14population downtown being be it, you
25:16know, retail theft that is constant
25:20trespass that is constant where we have
25:22to go. we are the right solution, but
25:26ultimately the root cause of the
25:28individuals that's the target of the
25:29police call is not being addressed.
25:32>> So just to be clear, police are the
25:35solution to show up and arrest somebody,
25:38but the solution to the problem is
25:40addressing the root cause. So there's
25:42two solutions. Is that what you're
25:44saying?
25:45>> No, I I think that once someone's
25:47committed a crime, we have a job to do.
25:49But when that crime is because they are
25:53living on the street and they
25:54chronically go and sleep on private
25:57property or hang out on private
26:00property, use drugs on private property,
26:02then you know there's there's something
26:04that we need to get at there. And I know
26:07from my experience in the criminal legal
26:08system that that typically is not going
26:10to happen through a series of
26:12misdemeanor charges. What's going to
26:14happen is usually a plea agreement and
26:16they're sent back out in the street. I
26:18mean, as as effective as the
26:20accountability docket was that the
26:22governor brought to Chittening County in
26:24terms of addressing the backlog of
26:27misdemeanor cases, it really didn't get
26:29at why the people were in that that
26:32position overall. So, I I guess I'm
26:35sorry if I'm not being clear. I think we
26:37have a role in this, but ultimately
26:40sometimes the person's situation is
26:42what's feeding their criminality.
26:45>> Sure. I think I think we're totally in
26:48agreement on that. I think that perhaps
26:51from my viewpoint um the solution to
26:54this criminality is bigger, which you
26:57know you say and and is evident through
26:59all of the data that you present every
27:00month that people will continue um their
27:04criminal behavior when they don't have
27:06any other opportunity. and that the
27:10solution of addressing that criminal
27:13behavior by sending them to court to
27:15take a plea is not a solution. Actually,
27:18it's what you are charged to do and what
27:20you are doing. But to me, that is a way
27:22of addressing something that isn't a
27:24solution. And maybe that's why I was
27:26hoping the discussion could become a
27:28little bit larger and maybe the police
27:30would be willing to take on part of that
27:32role of actually educating the public.
27:34Not just by saying we will always show
27:37up and please call us whenever you see
27:39anything, but that maybe there is a
27:42right time and a wrong time for somebody
27:44to call about something that is in fact
27:46a crime like trespassing on private
27:48property. That's it.
27:53>> Thanks, Chief. Okay.
27:55>> Okay. The next item on our agenda is
27:59commendations. I believe we have a
28:01couple.
28:04>> Okay. This first one is from the mayor.
28:06Hello colleagues. I wanted to take a
28:08moment to express my deep appreciation
28:09for the coordination and work to clean
28:11and clear college street near and abuing
28:13city hall park last week. This was a
28:14true multi- department effort that took
28:16a lot of planning, logistical
28:17coordination, and care related to the
28:19folks who needed to re who we needed to
28:20relocate. Thank you. It had a positive
28:23impact and help us start to disrupt
28:24patterns making the park and sidewalks
28:26unusable by the wider community. This
28:28part this part of our downtown has been
28:30under deep scrutiny by many folks in our
28:32community. And I know that there have
28:33been sentiments expressed that the city
28:35is not doing enough. I want to be clear.
28:37I have deep appreciation for all of the
28:38work you each do every day to help our
28:40city manage these unprecedented times in
28:42our parks and streets. I know how hard
28:45your I know how hard you each work
28:46within DPW, BPRW, BPD, CEDEDO, DPI, and
28:51the city attorney's office to keep our
28:53city operational, clean, safe, and
28:54livable. I also appreciate the extra
28:56work it takes to implement a hotspot
28:58strategy that needs to move quickly at
29:00times, and also includes trying to
29:02trying new creative approaches. Thank
29:04you for the work you Thank you for the
29:06work you collectively did in the last
29:07few weeks, few days, and the continued
29:10work you do to support everyone in our
29:12community. We continue to welcome ideas
29:14as we continue the work of hotspots.
29:17Feel free to reach out to FFL director
29:19Mary Dano if you want to share any
29:21insights or ideas. Thank you again.
29:23Peace, Emma.
29:26Our second commendation, Chief Burke and
29:29Lieutenant Bellivo, [clears throat] as
29:30you have likely heard already, the jury
29:31returned three guilty verdicts in the
29:33Jason Eaton cases this afternoon.
29:35Deliberating for less than two hours,
29:36they rejected Mr. 's claim of insanity
29:38and held him accountable for his actions
29:40on November 25th, 2023. Sarah and I are
29:44so grateful for the partnership between
29:45BPD and her office. This partnership is
29:47on full display in cases like this. Your
29:49team in the DSB has been nothing but
29:51professional, organized, thorough, and
29:53diligent in their investigation of this
29:55case, and it has been a pleasure putting
29:57our trial case together for the jury
29:59with their assistance. We are thankful
30:00for their service. Everyone CCed on this
30:02email is top-notch. BPD is lucky to have
30:05them and we here at the CCSAO are lucky
30:08they're a part of the team as well.
30:10Sally Adams, chief deputy states
30:12attorney.
30:14Okay, number three. Good morning. This
30:17is a picture of the car that redacted
30:20showed up with and flat out told me it
30:22was his new car. This car is now parked
30:24in the garage at night and reg and
30:26regular activity with drugs, cars coming
30:28and going since he came back. The
30:30picture of redacted with two of his
30:32people showed up. went in the house and
30:34came out with a backpack and fanny pack
30:36which he was wearing across his chest.
30:38From what I understand, this man has
30:39criminally has a criminally suspended
30:41license less than a week back in the
30:43drug dealing less than a week back and
30:46the drug dealing resumes. I want to
30:47thank BPD for their quick response to
30:49this residence lately. Officers Phil
30:51Brick and Officer Gonzalez have been
30:52amazing.
30:55Number four. Good morning, Sean. My
30:58father-in-law has dementia. Every day he
30:59takes a short little stroll up the
31:02street and back for about 10 minutes.
31:03Yesterday afternoon his wife called to
31:05say that Jack hadn't returned. I drove
31:07his route a couple of times but couldn't
31:08locate him. He had also left the house
31:10without his identification. About a half
31:12hour later, Anna Wiggling pulled up to
31:15the house and Jack came out and out came
31:17Jack. She introduced herself and said
31:18Jack had showed up at Willard Street
31:21Dental. They were unable to identify
31:23Jack and had called the PD. That's when
31:24Anna Anna entered the scene. Jack could
31:26not say where he lived nor give her his
31:28date of birth. Anna did some pretty
31:30great soouththing and very with very
31:32little info to go on. Eventually came up
31:34with the right address and brought him
31:35to his house. She was delightful, kind,
31:37friendly, and a great representative of
31:39the PD. You could also tell she really
31:41loves her job. So, thanks to Anna and
31:43her investigation skills and caring. All
31:45is well. Best to you, Sean EMTT.
31:48And finally,
31:51Chief, I just wanted to pass along thank
31:53you and offer some appreciation for your
31:54team's help at last night's fatal crash
31:57on Shelurn Road. CSO Young spent about 4
31:59hours managing the congested stretch of
32:01road at the city line between 189 Swift
32:04Street, Queen and Queen City Park Road
32:06by himself. He was entirely
32:07self-sufficient and wellprepared with
32:09plenty of cones. I was most impressed
32:11with his attitude. After I went to help
32:13him break down the scene, CSO Young had
32:15a smile on his face and told me he could
32:17have continued for hours if needed. His
32:19readiness and willing and willingness to
32:21help allowed us to focus our limited
32:23resources on the investigation instead
32:24of traffic. It was a huge help. Thanks
32:26again, Martin Maloney, Sergeant, South
32:29Burlington Police Department.
32:31And that is it for commendations.
32:36>> Oh, I skipped. Thank you.
32:39>> No, I do. I do. I skipped an item on our
32:42agenda uh commission business. We don't
32:44have much to discuss, but on um the
32:47animal control committee, we issued a an
32:51order on the dog moose that was issued,
32:53I believe, last Monday. That is on civic
32:55clerk if folks would like to read it. We
32:57also have our complaints committee
33:00meeting immediately following this
33:01meeting, but is there anything else that
33:02you want to say about complaints?
33:04>> Great. Okay. Then the announcement of
33:08our next meeting date which will be
33:12>> Yeah.
33:12>> Um I just want to say something real
33:14quick and I know it's we do give the
33:16accommodations uh chief but I think it's
33:20hopefully it's a great thing to hear
33:22directly from the commission how
33:23grateful we are for your service and to
33:25the team and I know you guys are super
33:27understaffed
33:28um without getting political or anything
33:31just the way things are in our city. Um,
33:34but I'm hoping that as time goes on and
33:37with your what you are contributing to
33:40the city and what the rest of the team
33:41is contributing that things slowly get
33:43better and that what we do here as time
33:46goes on contributes to more help rather
33:49than uh less. So, I just want to say
33:52just thank you for all that you do.
33:54Really, we appreciate you and your team.
33:56>> Thank you very much.
33:57>> Thanks, Commissioner.
33:59Okay, this brings us to the end of our
34:01agenda. Is there a motion to adjurnn?
34:05>> So moved.
34:06>> I will second. All those in favor say I.
34:08>> Oh.
34:09>> I
34:10>> I
34:11>> I.
34:11>> The eyes carry. We are adjourned.
34:28>> [music]
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