2026-10-20 - City Council Formal Meeting

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Topic Minutes Share
Other business 29 36%
HF Sinclair Westline Connect pipeline expansion 17 21%
HUD Community Development Needs Public Hearing 13 16%
Wasatch Assembly housing demands 8 10%
Sugar House Business District special assessment area 5 6%
Hardage upzone at Linden Avenue and 800 East 4 5%
Ballpark rezoning follow-up 2 3%
Tree preservation legislative action 1 1%
Right-of-way construction signage requirement 1 1%
  • Tuesday, October 20, 2026.
  • The recording is music until about 6:35, the meeting opens at about 6:49 and was adjourned at about 1:28:30; the video ends with music at about 1:29.
  • The captions have no gaps in the meeting itself.
  • Every vote was unanimous.

Ballpark rezoning follow-up

40:36-42:16

  • Item C2: ordinances for the Ballpark zoning map and text amendments, moved by Council Member Carlsen and seconded by Dugan.
  • Carlsen thanked colleagues for adding open space, naming green space as a priority with a 5-acre minimum, and for tree protections.
  • Adopted unanimously.

Sugar House Business District special assessment area

42:16-47:39

  • Items D1 and D2 (designating the area and appointing a Board of Equalization) were both postponed on motions by Council Member Young.
  • Young said property-owner buy-in is not there given business costs and recent construction, but it is "not a never".
  • Both votes were unanimous; Dugan and Napier-Pearce seconded.

HUD Community Development Needs Public Hearing

27:33-40:07

  • Item B6: annual hearing on 2027-2028 HUD needs (CDBG, ESG, HOME, HOPWA), introduced by policy analyst Allison Rowland.
  • Speakers: Jennifer Madrigal, MJ Powell, Abby Feinstein (captioned Feenstra), a resident describing a neighbor's housing struggle, and Bernie Hart.
  • Themes: deeply affordable housing, case management funding, land trusts, and provider accountability for outcomes.
  • Napier-Pearce moved to close and Carlsen seconded; unanimous. The chair urged residents to contact federal representatives to protect CDBG.

Tree preservation legislative action

48:37-49:55

  • Item E2: Carlsen moved to ask the administration to review tree code with emphasis on preservation during development.
  • Seconded by Dugan; unanimous.

Right-of-way construction signage requirement

49:55-51:14

  • Item E3: Council Member Petro moved a request for informational signage at right-of-way construction projects.
  • The chair said constituents had asked who owns road projects; unanimous.

HF Sinclair Westline Connect pipeline expansion

54:04-55:54, 58:12-59:56, 1:04:23-1:12:25, 1:23:10-1:28:25

  • Not on the agenda; raised in general comment by Nicholas Glenn, Kate Groesinger, Lexi Tuddenham, Brooke Smith, Jack Strauss, Brian Minch, Olivia Juarez and others, all opposed.
  • Concerns: leaks, fire and earthquake risk, drinking water in the watershed, and construction disruption. Strauss said his group collected almost 1,300 signatures.
  • Speakers referred to the council's briefing with HF Sinclair at the October 13 work session. The captions render Emigration as "immigration".
  • The chair asked staff to invite Sinclair back for the November 10 work session; a council member said Sinclair had not yet confirmed.

Wasatch Assembly housing demands

1:12:25-1:20:44

  • Four speakers, including Kylie Akina, asked for no homelessness sweeps, adoption of the expanding housing options plan, property tax for affordable housing, deposit and junk fee rules and a ban on RealPage.
  • They asked for eviction protections and thanked Chris Wharton for completing the group's survey.

Hardage upzone at Linden Avenue and 800 East

1:00:08-1:04:10

  • Cindy Cromer and Deborah Rothol opposed the up-zone request; Rothol said the Planning Commission voted 6 to 1 against the general plan amendment (speaker claim, unverified).

Other business

  • Opening and meeting rules (6:49-11:00); minutes for September 8 and October 6 approved, moved by Council Member Wharton and seconded by Dugan.
  • Joint resolution with Mayor Mendenhall declaring November 2026 Native American Heritage Month (11:00-18:10): moved by Dugan, seconded by Petro, unanimous. Carlsen shared her own Native heritage, and Samantha Eldridge accepted the resolution.
  • Grant application hearings for items B1 to B5 (18:10-27:33), introduced by Sylvia Richards: older adults home modification, Allen Park all-abilities recreation and creek rehabilitation, a financial empowerment blueprint (START), a BLM fuels management water source, and a youth outdoor recreation grant. Jennifer Madrigal and MJ Powell spoke in support. Closed and referred to a future consent agenda, unanimous.
  • Item C1, community correction facilities and jail tax ordinance (40:07-40:38): adopted unanimously.
  • Item E1, a request that the administration review risk management coverage levels (47:41-48:37): moved by Young, unanimous.
  • Consent agenda approved (51:14-51:43; the mover is captioned "Warren", apparently Wharton). The mayor had no questions from the council.
  • General comment (from 52:02, about 17 registered): also included a tribute by MJ Powell to a late firefighter union leader (55:56-58:04) and a request from Bernie Hart for outcome data on homeless services (1:20:46-1:23:02).

Agenda

Native American Heritage Month resolution and public hearings on three grant applications (Older Adults Home Modification, Allen Park recreation, CityStart).

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06:49>> 1 2 today's meeting

06:52we are happy to have you

06:54whether you are joining us in person or

06:56online.

06:57Um

06:58we hope you continue to participate in

07:00whichever manner you feel the most

07:01comfortable. Uh

07:04let's do the pledge of allegiance now.

07:06Join me.

07:09>> I pledge allegiance to the flag

07:12of the United States of America and to

07:15the republic for which it stands, one

07:17nation under God, indivisible, with

07:20liberty and justice for all.

07:26>> Before we move through the agenda, I

07:27want to quickly go through the

07:29registration information and share some

07:31the reasoning

07:33on how and why we chair these meetings

07:35the way we do.

07:37We welcome everyone regardless of your

07:39opinion or for side of an issue because

07:41we will have a people with varying

07:43opinions on important issues, the

07:45council's goal is to make the meeting a

07:47place where there where people feel safe

07:50and comfortable participating.

07:52This is the most local level of

07:54government and it is a key value of ours

07:56to ensure that we have created a created

07:58a respectful

08:00and safe environment so no one is

08:02intimidated out of free participation.

08:06This also allows us to ensure that the

08:08meeting can continue and that we can

08:10conduct the scheduled city business.

08:12We invite each of you to contribute to

08:14this space, to speak your mind and to

08:17welcome others to do the same.

08:19In order to create this welcoming and

08:21safe space, we will pause the meeting at

08:24any action that causes a disruption to

08:26our ability to conduct the meeting.

08:29Or any safety concern involving threats

08:31or unprotected speech.

08:34Either a repeated actions or comments,

08:36it may result in removal from the

08:38meeting.

08:39To avoid intimidating others, please

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08:52orientation, or physical ability.

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08:56someone's comment, clapping, cheering,

08:59showering, booing, snapping, gesturing,

09:03obstructing, or discouraging others from

09:05commenting is not allowed.

09:08As a reminder, as council members, we

09:10refrain from reaching

09:12from reacting or responding to allow

09:15everyone to share their opinions freely.

09:18This is to keep our reactions from

09:20affecting your ability to share your

09:22opinion freely.

09:24If you would like to follow up with any

09:26of us, please see council staff

09:29uh or in the room here or you can

09:32message uh Zoom uh and start a chat with

09:35our council staff uh for information or

09:37contact information.

09:39When making your comments, please

09:41address the body and not the individual

09:43elected official.

09:45If you have a handout for the council,

09:47please you raise your hand and council

09:48staff will assist you.

09:50Council staff are also available during

09:53and after the meeting to help you with

09:54any questions or information sharing.

09:57The full meeting rules are listed at the

09:58door

09:59and our staff will post the link in

10:01Zoom.

10:03As a reminder of our public comment

10:05registration process, individuals may

10:08register to comment on scheduled public

10:10hearing items until the hearing is

10:12closed.

10:14For the general comment section, we will

10:16accept sign-ups until 7:30 p.m. The

10:19general comment section is limited to a

10:21maximum of 1 hour and will only include

10:24commentors who register before 7:30.

10:27So, if you're here to give general

10:29comment, please sign up and remember

10:32that it is possible not everyone who

10:33signed up may be able to speak.

10:36This brings us to item A4, which is

10:39approval of the minutes for September

10:428th and October 6th, 2026. I need a

10:45motion.

10:46>> Second.

10:47>> Motion by Council Member Wharton and

10:48seconded by Council Member Dugan. Any

10:50discussion?

10:51All of those in favor say I.

10:53>> I.

10:53>> I.

10:54>> Any opposed or abstentions?

10:56This motion carries unanimously. Our

10:58next item is A5.

11:00The council will consider adopting a

11:02joint ceremonial resolution

11:05with Mayor Mendenhall declaring November

11:07as Native American Heritage Month in

11:10Salt Lake City. I will now read the

11:11resolution.

11:14Joint resolution declaring November 2026

11:17as Native American Heritage Month in

11:19Salt Lake City.

11:21Whereas Salt Lake City stands on the

11:22ancestral homelands of many indigenous

11:25nations, including including the Utes,

11:28Paiute,

11:29Goshute, Diné, Navajo, Shoshone,

11:32Arapaho,

11:33Agala, Sioux, Cheyenne, River Sioux,

11:36Wind River Shoshone, Cherokee, uh

11:39Rosebud Sioux Sioux tribes, uh or other

11:43respected bands, and whereas

11:46Native American Heritage Month is an

11:48opportunity not only to celebrate the

11:50histories, cultures, and contributions

11:52of indigenous people, but also to

11:55reflect in our shared responsibilities

11:57to to ensure native voices are heard,

12:00respected, and represented through the

12:02year, and whereas

12:05meaningful recognition of Native

12:07American Heritage requires an honest

12:09understanding of our shared history,

12:12including the displacement,

12:14discrimination, and injustices

12:16experienced by indigenous people, as

12:19well as the commitment to learning from

12:21that history and building a more

12:24inclusive future,

12:26and

12:27whereas Native American residents,

12:30artists, educators, leaders, and

12:33families continue to shape Salt Lake

12:34City's economic, cultural, and social

12:37development, and their voices and

12:39contributions are essential to our

12:41city's future,

12:42and whereas recognizing Native American

12:45Heritage also means making space for

12:48indigenous voices in conversations about

12:51our shared future,

12:52as demonstrated by Salt Lake City's

12:54recent support of

12:57diverted indigenous stewardship and

13:00Saving the Great Salt Lake, a

13:02documentary exploring the role of

13:04indigenous knowledge and leadership in

13:06addressing the lake's decline,

13:09and whereas Salt Lake City remains

13:12committed to strengthening relationships

13:13with Native American residents and

13:15tribal nations through meaningful

13:17dialogue, improved services, and

13:20partnerships built on justice, equity,

13:23mutual respect, and shared prosperity,

13:26and now, therefore, be it resolved that

13:29the Salt Lake City Council and the mayor

13:30of Salt Lake City hereby declare the the

13:33month of November of 2026 as Native

13:36American Heritage Month

13:38in recognition of the enduring presence,

13:41contributions, and legacy of Native

13:43American communities.

13:46I will look for a motion.

13:48>> Mr. Chair, I move that the council adopt

13:50a joint ceremonial resolution with Mayor

13:52Mendenhall

13:53November as Native American Heritage

13:55Month in Salt Lake City.

13:57>> Second.

14:00>> I have a motion by Council Member Dugan

14:01and seconded by Council Member Petro. Is

14:03there any discussion?

14:07Council Member Carlson.

14:08>> Uh

14:09I uh I wanted to like mention something

14:11that I mentioned a few years back

14:14on the heels of this resolution. Um

14:17it's um

14:19as a person that grew up uh being

14:22ashamed of um

14:24you know, my my roots, and it took me a

14:27lifetime to get to a place where I was

14:29acceptance of myself and my own heritage

14:31and my own native roots. It's been a

14:34process uh of loving myself and loving

14:36my my uh my background. Um my community

14:41growing up tried to squash and squish

14:43that um out of me. Um and it is uh

14:48it happens a lot even today

14:50uh where we uh try to melt in uh and

14:55hide uh ourselves

14:57uh to not shine in our differences. Um

15:01it took took a lot of work uh to be able

15:04to accept my native heritage.

15:07Um and uh I I can say now that I'm very

15:10proud of that. Um so, thank you.

15:12I have a question on the table. I'm

15:14going to call that.

15:15Um all those in favor say I.

15:17>> I.

15:18>> I.

15:20>> That carries unanimously. Um I would

15:23like to welcome Samantha Eldridge,

15:26tribal liaison at the University of

15:28Utah,

15:29and director of the Center for Native

15:31Excellence and Tribal Engagement here

15:33with us today to receive the resolution.

15:35Uh, thank you for being here. You have

15:37the time.

15:38>> Thank you. Uh, thank you, Salt Lake City

15:40Council, Mayor Mendenhall, for the

15:41public proclamation to recognize

15:44November as Native American Heritage

15:46Month. I have been in community with

15:48many of you, and many of you know I'm a

15:50product of Salt Lake City. My family's

15:52from Rose Park. I graduated from East

15:54High School.

15:55And as a first-generation college

15:57student, I'm excited to share with you

15:58today that I will be graduating next

16:00semester with my doctorate in education.

16:09My journey is just one of many stories

16:11of Native Excellence within our

16:13community. Too often, conversations

16:15around indigenous and native communities

16:18come from a deficit lens. While those

16:20conversations are important, Native

16:21American Heritage Month gives us an

16:23opportunity to shift that narrative and

16:26celebrate our strengths,

16:28accomplishments, and contributions.

16:31Native Excellence is not the exception.

16:33It is all around us, and it deserves to

16:35be seen, recognized, and celebrated. I

16:38hope this month reminds us not only of

16:40the importance of preserving our

16:42cultures, our histories,

16:44and the legacy of our people, but also

16:47of celebrating who we are today and the

16:49futures we are creating for the next

16:51generation. Thank you for this

16:53recognition and for celebrating Native

16:55American Heritage Month with with us.

16:57Okay, hat and it's all good.

16:59>> Thank you. Will you come here with us

17:01and receive the resolution photo?

18:10>> Thank you. Um thank you

18:13uh

18:17Samantha for receiving that resolution.

18:19I uh this brings us uh to the public

18:22hearing section of our agenda.

18:24These are specific proposals before the

18:26council that require a public uh

18:27hearing. Your comments should pertain to

18:30the public hearing, and if you go off

18:32topic, we'll ask you to stop your

18:34comment. In order to create this

18:36welcoming and safe space, we'll pause

18:38the meeting at any disruption to our

18:40ability to conduct the meeting, or any

18:42safety concern involving threats or

18:44unprotected speech.

18:46If you have there are repeated actions

18:47or comments, it may result in removal

18:49from the meeting.

18:50Um if

18:52you are on Zoom, please unmute your

18:55microphone uh when your name is called.

18:58Each person will have 2 minutes. If you

19:00reach the 2-minute mark, the host will

19:02announce time, and your microphone will

19:05be muted.

19:06We'll be calling the names in order of

19:08sign-ups. If you need staff assistance

19:11in the room, please raise your hand and

19:12someone will be with you.

19:14>> [snorts]

19:15>> If you have technical issues in Zoom or

19:17you need assistance here in the room,

19:19you can message staff support or reach

19:21out to staff here in the room. Uh if

19:24you're unable to finish your comment,

19:26you can uh send the rest of your comment

19:29via email, mail, or calling our office.

19:33Contact information is at

19:34slc.gov/council.

19:38If you do have a handout, please reach

19:40out to staff to make the handout

19:43available to us.

19:44Um the public hearing that we're going

19:46to hear first

19:48uh is a group of public hearings and

19:50it's B uh 1 through B5 and these are

19:54grant applications and will be heard as

19:56one. Uh before we begin taking comments,

19:59I will turn the time over to Sylvia

20:01Richards, Council Policy Analyst, to

20:04give us a short introduction. Sylvia.

20:07>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Periodically, the

20:10city receives applies for and receives

20:13grants which fund some city programs.

20:16Each grant receives a public hearing to

20:19provide additional information for the

20:21council and the public.

20:24The first grant tonight is the Older

20:26Adults Home Modification Program Grant

20:29which would fund home assessments by

20:31licensed occupational

20:33therapists and licensed contractors to

20:35install low-cost home modifications

20:39which would increase the safety and

20:41accessibility allowing older adults to

20:44stay in their homes rather than moving

20:47to nursing homes or assisted care

20:49facilities. Second is the fiscal year 27

20:53Outdoor Recreation Initiative for Allen

20:56Park All Abilities Recreation Access and

21:00Creek Rehabilitation Project. The grant

21:03would fund the construction of several

21:06ADA project projects as well as a

21:08riparian viewing platform, the

21:11restoration of the front meadow

21:13development of a nature play area and

21:16exploration area,

21:18gazebo and pavilion rehabilitation.

21:21Also included is the construction of the

21:24Emigration Creek stormwater

21:26infrastructure, flood plain

21:29reconnection, riparian habitat and

21:31restoration and phase one design and

21:35construction documents.

21:37Third is the 2026 Salt Lake City START

21:41program grant. A portion of the funding

21:44would be used to hire a student intern

21:46at the University of Utah Department of

21:48City and Metropolitan Planning to assist

21:51with the project. Deliverables include a

21:53municipal financial empowerment

21:56blueprint focusing on neighborhoods in

21:59the city's high poverty census tracts.

22:02The blueprint will outline former

22:04residents strategies strategies such as

22:08financial education, counseling, and

22:11access to banking.

22:13Fourth is the fiscal year 2026 Bureau of

22:16Land Management Fuels Management and

22:18Community Fire Assistance Grant. It

22:21would fund the purchase and placement of

22:23Utah Street and I Street Hallowell, a

22:263,775

22:29gallon capacity portable water dip

22:32source

22:34for larger helicopters used by the US

22:36Forest Service and as a field station

22:39for tankers during prescribed burns,

22:42firebreaks, and reducing fuel sources in

22:45interagency aerial wildfire suppression.

22:49And last fifth is the Utah's

22:52Children's Outdoor Recreation Education

22:55Grant. It would fund the promising youth

22:57summer opportunity outdoor recreation

23:00activities.

23:0110 school resource officers and four

23:03youth advocates would provide outdoor

23:06programming and activities to help youth

23:09ages 12 to 18 to build skills,

23:12competence, and healthy relationships.

23:14Funds will also cover recreation entry

23:17fees, food, and recreation equipment.

23:20Thank you.

23:21>> Thank you, Silvia. Taylor,

23:23you begin with our first public comment.

23:26>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have two people

23:28registered to speak to these items. The

23:30first will be Jennifer Madrigal,

23:32followed by MJ Powell. Jennifer, you may

23:34now unmute.

23:36Hi. Um this is Jennifer Madrigal. I am

23:39the Glendale Neighborhood Council Chair,

23:41and I just wanted to speak to the older

23:43adults home modification program.

23:45Um I really support this initiative. Um

23:49and I would also love if it would be

23:51possible to do things like including

23:53chair lifts for multi-story units.

23:56Um we've got a lot of three-floor

23:57townhomes coming up in our um in our

24:00neighborhood, and and this is not

24:02necessarily low-cost, um but it would be

24:05a boon for

24:07um

24:08people to be able to age in place in

24:09these units. Um I would also love if we

24:12could potentially use a portion of the

24:14grant funds or maybe some additional

24:16city funds to advertise this opportunity

24:19specifically to low-income and

24:22historically marginalized communities.

24:25Um and this um I would especially

24:27appreciate if this could include some of

24:29these relevant communities, such as

24:31those on the west side, um but also all

24:34immigrant and minority populations that

24:36may not necessarily have English as a

24:39first language. Um so I I really

24:42appreciate this effort, and I greatly

24:44support it.

24:49>> And next is MJ Powell. MJ, you may now

24:51unmute.

24:57>> Good evening, city council members,

24:59mayor, and Salt Lake City residents. I

25:02want to express my strong support for

25:05item B5 in the Salt Lake City Police

25:08Department's application for fiscal year

25:112026 Utah Children's Outdoor Recreation

25:14and Education Grant.

25:16Too often when we talk about public

25:18safety, we focus only on responding to

25:21problems

25:22after they occur. Problems like the

25:25Promising Youth Project represents

25:27something different. They all focus on

25:29prevention, restoration, mentorship, and

25:32opportunity. They invest in young people

25:34before they become involved in the

25:37justice system and help those who may

25:39already be struggling to find a better

25:41path forward.

25:43What I especially appreciate about this

25:45initiative is it restorative justice

25:47approach. Restorative justice recognizes

25:50that young people are more than their

25:52mistakes.

25:53It creates opportunities for

25:55accountability, healing, growth, and

25:58reconnection with their communities.

26:01Those values are not only good for

26:02individual youth, they are good for

26:05public safety as a whole.

26:07Outdoor education and recreation can

26:09also be transformative.

26:11For many young people, access to

26:13positive experiences

26:15leadership development and healthy

26:17activities can be life-changing.

26:20These opportunities can help build

26:22confidence, strengthen relationships,

26:26and provide a sense of belonging that

26:28every young person deserves.

26:30I commend the police department for

26:31pursuing innovative partnerships and

26:34community-based solutions.

26:36Whether or not every grant application

26:38is ultimately funded, I believe this

26:40proposal reflects the kind of investment

26:42we should be making in our youth and the

26:44future of our city.

26:46I respectfully encourage the council to

26:48support this grant application and

26:50continue prioritizing prioritizing

26:52programs that lift up young people and

26:55help them thrive. Thank you.

26:58>> That was the final registered commenter

27:00for this item.

27:02>> Thank you, Jennifer and and MJ for your

27:05comments. I will look for a motion.

27:07>> Mr. Chair, I move the council close the

27:09public hearing and refer items B1

27:10through B5 for a future consent agenda

27:12for action.

27:13>> Second.

27:15>> I have a motion by council member Dugan

27:17and and seconded by council member

27:19Carlson.

27:20Any discussion?

27:23I'm going to call the question. All

27:24those in favor say I.

27:25>> I.

27:26>> I.

27:26>> Any opposed or abstentions?

27:30This was a unanimous vote.

27:33We're moving on on the agenda to item

27:36B6, which is the 2027-2028

27:41US Housing and Urban Development General

27:44Community Development Needs Annual

27:47Public Hearing.

27:49I'm going to turn the time to Allison

27:51Rowland to give us a brief Council

27:53Policy Analyst to give us a brief update

27:55on this.

27:55>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. This hearing is

27:57designed to receive public comment for

27:59the 2027-2028

28:01US Housing Urban Housing and Urban

28:04Development Department or HUD General

28:06Community Development Needs. Each year

28:09Salt Lake City receives several million

28:10dollars in grants from HUD through four

28:12programs: Community Development Block

28:15Grants or CDBG, Emergency Solutions

28:18Grant or ESG, the Home Investment

28:21Partnership, and Housing Opportunities

28:24for Persons with HIV/AIDS or HOPWA. This

28:27public feedback helps the city

28:29prioritize grant funds among the many

28:31competing needs.

28:33>> Thank you, Allison.

28:35I will need

28:38I will open the time for public comment,

28:41Taylor.

28:44>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have four

28:45people registered to speak to this item.

28:47The first will be a Jennifer Madrigal,

28:49followed by MJ Powell, and then Abby

28:51Feenstra. Jennifer, you may now unmute.

28:55>> Thanks. Again, sorry. This is Jennifer

28:57Madrigal. Um happen to be the chair of

28:59the Glendale Neighborhood Council. Um I

29:01was going to list the programs for the

29:05CDBG Community Development Block Grant

29:07that I know have personally um touched

29:10the Glendale community, but I quickly

29:12realized this would be probably over 30

29:15of the 38 applicants listed. Um so I

29:18just want to give thanks

29:20um for for funding for these

29:22organizations that are they're active in

29:25the community in so many different ways,

29:27um not just with housing, but in other

29:29ways that really benefit um the Glendale

29:31community.

29:33Um and then I would also I I I don't

29:36know if this is possible, but I would

29:37love to shout out to um the Salt Lake

29:40City Community Land Trust Project. I

29:43don't know if there's any way in the

29:44future to try to expand this um

29:47this pathway to home ownership, um but

29:50this would be an excellent way to allow

29:53families to afford

29:55homes that they couldn't necessarily

29:57afford having to pay for the home and

29:59the land. Um that's all I have to say

30:02for now.

30:03>> [laughter]

30:03>> Thanks.

30:06>> Next is MJ Powell, followed by Abby

30:08Feenstra, and then Royal Arred. MJ, you

30:11may now unmute.

30:13>> Hello again.

30:14Thank you for the opportunity to provide

30:16public input regarding the city's use of

30:18federal housing and community

30:20development funding.

30:22Each year Salt Lake City receives

30:24millions of dollars through programs

30:26like Community Development Block Grants,

30:29acronyms HOME, ESG, HOPWA.

30:34These are significant investments, and I

30:36believe they should be focused on

30:37helping the residents who are

30:38increasingly being left behind

30:41by our housing market.

30:43One concern I continue to hear across

30:45our community is that what government

30:47and developers often define as {quote}

30:50affordable housing is still completely

30:53out of reach for many people who already

30:55live and work here.

30:57Too many renters are struggling to save

30:59for a home and too many first-time home

31:01buyers find that dream of ownership

31:03grows further

31:05away from them every year.

31:07Housing built for people earning $40 per

31:10hour is not affordable to many existing

31:12residents like people such as myself.

31:17At full-time hours, $40 per hour is

31:20approximately

31:2183,200

31:2383,200

31:25per year before taxes and I'm not even

31:27making half of that.

31:29That benchmark excludes many hospitality

31:32workers, service workers, seniors, young

31:35adults, and families whose wages have

31:37not kept pace with housing costs.

31:40Affordability should not exist only on

31:42paper. It should reflect whether the

31:44people who already live and work in Salt

31:46Lake City can realistically afford to

31:48remain here.

31:50So, with that being said, I please

31:52encourage the council and the mayor's

31:54administration to prioritize investments

31:56that actually expand deeply affordable

31:59housing, rentals, and create attainable

32:02sustainable pathways to first home

32:05ownership.

32:06Home ownership. Thank you for your time

32:08and have a good evening.

32:11>> And next is Abby Feinstein followed by

32:14Sarah Jolly.

32:16Abby is here in person.

32:23>> Can everybody hear me? Okay.

32:25Good evening, council members. My name

32:27is Abby Feinstein. I'm a resident of

32:28District 5 and I'm the grants manager at

32:31First Step House, which is a housing and

32:33homelessness services nonprofit in

32:35Districts 1, 2, and 4.

32:38I want to thank you for your time

32:39tonight and for your commitment to

32:40stable housing for our most vulnerable

32:42neighbors.

32:43I'm here to urge you to increase funding

32:46for case management. The best way to

32:48show why is a story about one of our

32:49clients who I'll call Mark.

32:51Mark had experienced homelessness and

32:53instability for quite some time before

32:54coming to First Step House.

32:56He had been through treatment He had

32:58been through treatment before and used

32:59up his county sober living voucher, but

33:01then unfortunately he relapsed as about

33:0340 to 60% of people experiencing an

33:05addiction do.

33:06So when he graduated from First Step

33:07House this time, sober and ready to

33:09rebuild his life, he had nowhere to go

33:11except straight back onto the street.

33:13That's where case management made the

33:14difference. Case management staff got

33:16Mark connected to tenant-based rental

33:18assistance or TBRA funding. That got him

33:20into one of our recovery residences.

33:22They worked with him to connect him to

33:24our employment program. That got him a

33:25job at a national pharmacy chain. He

33:27started making so much money that he

33:29actually was no longer eligible for his

33:30subsidized housing voucher, and even

33:32though at this point it had been months

33:34since he had graduated from First Step

33:35House, his case manager stepped up again

33:37and got him last-minute market-rate

33:39housing through relationships she built

33:41with local landlords.

33:43Today Mark is sober, employed, and

33:44paying his own rent. He doesn't require

33:46any assistance from us or from the city.

33:48His treatment bed and housing placement

33:50are now open for the next person who

33:51needs them.

33:53Mark's story is not unique to First Step

33:54House. Case managers in shelters and

33:56housing programs all over the city do

33:58this work every day.

33:59The rental assistance that the city

34:00funds is a big part of what got Mark

34:02housed, but it didn't work all on its

34:04own. Someone had to find it, help him

34:06apply, manage it, and then step in when

34:08his situation changed. The city has

34:10invested in that work before. Mark is

34:12proof that it pays off, and we would

34:13love to see that investment grow.

34:16As you're considering how to use this

34:17funding, I hope you'll keep case

34:18management among your top priorities,

34:20not just at First Step House, but across

34:22the whole system. It's what makes the

34:23rest of this funding work.

34:25>> Hi.

34:28Next is Sarah Jolly, followed by Bernie

34:30Hart. Sarah's here in person.

34:50>> Hi council. My name is Sarah Jolly and

34:52I'm here with my neighbor and friend. Do

34:54you say your name?

34:56Royal Allred.

34:58Um

34:59Royal was recently on the news on

35:01October 9th by

35:03uh Jordan Tracy talking about his

35:05struggle to

35:06uh

35:07secure safe, stable housing and the

35:10report highlights the barriers that

35:12people like Royal um

35:15are facing in accessing housing and the

35:18urgent need for support while navigating

35:20an overwhelmed system.

35:22Um

35:23we had taken to a GoFundMe which we're

35:26not here to highlight but I'm going to

35:27read you part because it talks about our

35:29my experience supporting Royal in this.

35:32So, Royal's 66 years old, a double

35:35amputee who uses an electric wheelchair.

35:37Additional medical diagnoses include

35:39diabetes, progressive loss of vision in

35:41both eyes, and a serious blood clotting

35:42disorder that has already taken both of

35:45his legs.

35:46Um Royal's also a friend and a

35:48consistent presence in our community.

35:50He's reliable, approachable, and widely

35:52known and respected.

35:54After experiencing homelessness off and

35:56on for the last 5 years, he's worked to

35:57stay in a motel for the past year but it

36:00costs continue to rise. He's no longer

36:03able to manage the cost of his room.

36:06Um motel management has been working

36:07with him but his funds are depleted and

36:09so we went to the community for support.

36:12Um so he uh has completed his intake and

36:16assessment through the Salt Lake Valley

36:18Coalition to End Homelessness

36:19Coordinated Entry and CT

36:22He was assessed as having high housing

36:24needs. He receives SSDI and has all the

36:27documentation needed to move into

36:29housing. We made sure that we did

36:31everything. We got birth certificates,

36:33their social security card. Um and he

36:37has Medicare, Medicaid. What he does not

36:39have and is an available housing

36:41placement, access to case management um

36:45to assist him in the process or any

36:47clear timeline of when that will become

36:49available. So, over the past several

36:51weeks, we pursued one

36:53>> Time.

36:55>> Thank you.

36:56>> Will you be able to

36:57provide the rest of it?

36:58>> Yes. No, but we'll we'll take the rest

37:00of you know, staff can help you with

37:02that. So, thank you. Thank you so much.

37:04>> All right. Thank you.

37:07>> And next is Bernie Hart who is here in

37:09person.

37:24>> I'd feel much more comfortable if was

37:27people that were actually home with

37:29dealing with mental health and addiction

37:30issues that were up here advocating for

37:33more money for current programs.

37:37The city and the county and the state

37:40are involved in programs and they don't

37:43have a clue as to how well the programs

37:45work.

37:47SAMHSA who provides a lot of money to

37:49the state of Utah for mental health and

37:51addiction issues does not hold agencies

37:55that spend their money accountable for

37:57outcomes. They do not know if those the

38:00money spent is actually helping people.

38:04If you want to save money and help more

38:06people

38:08achieve success in our community, I

38:11would think it might be a good time for

38:13the homeless homeless services board and

38:16the people that are behind the homeless

38:19services board start holding service by

38:21providers.

38:23Every service provider accountable for

38:26outcome

38:27managing outcomes and reporting

38:29outcomes. Help the homeless by holding

38:32people accountable. Thank you.

38:38>> That was the final registered commenter

38:39for this item.

38:42>> Thank you,

38:43Jennifer, MJ, Abby, we all Roy and

38:45Bernie. I will look for a motion.

38:48>> Mr. Chair.

38:50>> Mr. Chair, I move that the council close

38:51the public hearing.

38:52>> Second.

38:54>> Motion by Jennifer and Napier Pierce and

38:56Council member Carlson. Any discussion?

39:01I would like to quickly mention that

39:03CDBG as

39:05uh

39:06as

39:07in the last few years has been on the

39:08chopping block from the federal

39:10government. Um this is uh

39:14there's been threats to cities about

39:16cutting this funding.

39:18Uh very legitimate threats and every

39:20time that we as a city raise the flag

39:22about how important these funds are

39:25uh

39:25many times the answer is like, "Yeah,

39:27but we're on the hole on on the federal

39:29budget."

39:31Um

39:31I just want to highlight that these

39:33funds are key to the success of our city

39:37um and I would like to invite all of you

39:39to contact your

39:42federal representative to make sure that

39:43they know the value of these funds uh

39:46for our city. Um it's very important uh

39:50that we don't lose these funds um that

39:52go directly to to service providers. So,

39:56I have a motion by Council member

39:58Jennifer Napier Pierce seconded by

40:00Council member Carlson.

40:02Uh all of those in favor say I.

40:03>> I.

40:04>> I.

40:05>> Any opposed or abstentions?

40:07This motion carries unanimously. We're

40:09moving on to item uh C1, which is an

40:13ordinance for a community correction

40:15facilities and jail tax amendments and I

40:18need a motion.

40:20>> I move that council adopt the ordinance.

40:23>> Second.

40:24>> Council member Pietro made the motion

40:26and Council member Dugan made the

40:28second. All of those in favor

40:30say I.

40:31>> I.

40:32>> Any opposed, abstentions, or comments?

40:36No? We're moving on. That motion was

40:38unanimous.

40:40Item C2 is an ordinance for the ballpark

40:42zoning map amendment map and text

40:44amendments.

40:46I need a motion.

40:47>> Mr. Chair, I move that the council adopt

40:49the ballpark zoning map and text

40:51amendment ordinances.

40:53>> Second.

40:54>> Council member Carlson and Council

40:56member made the motion and Council

40:58member Dugan seconded it. Any

41:00discussion? Council member Carlson.

41:02>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to

41:04express my gratitude to

41:07my fellow colleagues up here who when

41:09had the opportunity to incorporate

41:11community feedback into this proposal

41:15took that opportunity to increase in

41:18the amount of open space and explicitly

41:22name green space as a priority in that

41:24open space plan establishing a minimum

41:27of 5 acres. Also appreciative of the

41:29ways in which this ordinance helps to

41:31protect mature trees and mitigate their

41:34loss during the redevelopment of this

41:36property and also grateful that um

41:39throughout the process I feel that you

41:41all have colleagues and other city

41:43departments have really heard voices

41:46about the redevelopment of this site and

41:49I'm grateful for that

41:50willingness to give and take in that

41:52process and I'm looking forward to

41:55continuing to implement the ballpark

41:57next plan that was adopted in 2025.

41:59Thank you.

42:01>> Thank you, Council member Carlson. Any

42:03other comments, thoughts? I have a

42:05motion on the table by Council member

42:07Carlson seconded by Council member

42:09Dugan. All of those in favor say I.

42:11>> I.

42:12>> Any opposed? Abstentions? This motion

42:15carries unanimously.

42:16This brings us to item D1,

42:19a resolution designating the Sugar House

42:22special assessment area, and I need a

42:23motion.

42:25>> Mr. Chair, I move that the Council

42:26postpone action on the resolution to

42:29designate the Sugar House Business

42:30District 2027 Special Assessment Area

42:34and proceed to the next agenda item.

42:37>> Second.

42:39>> All right.

42:41Council Member Young made the motion and

42:42Council Member Petro, sorry, Council

42:44Member Dugan

42:45uh seconded.

42:46Um any discussion?

42:49Um I'm going to call the question. All

42:51those in favor say I.

42:53>> I.

42:54>> Any opposed? Any abstentions?

42:57Okay. Any comments on this?

43:00Okay.

43:01Um moving on to item D2. This is a

43:04resolution appointing the Board of

43:06Equalization for the Sugar House Special

43:08Assessment Area, and I need a motion.

43:10>> Mr. Chair, I move that the Council

43:12postpone action on the resolution to

43:14appoint a Board of Equalization for the

43:16Sugar House Business District 2027

43:19Special Assessment Area and proceed to

43:21the next agenda item.

43:24>> Second.

43:26>> I have a motion by Council Member Young

43:28seconded by Council Member Jennifer

43:30Nipper-Pearce.

43:32Any discussion? Council Member Young.

43:33>> Yeah, thank you. So, these two items

43:36obviously go together for the community,

43:38and I think it's important to make sure

43:40that we're clear on the background

43:42related to today's conversation. So, the

43:46Sugar House Special Assessment Area is

43:49unique in the fact that it is a tool

43:52that the community is the sponsor for in

43:55terms of creating a Special Assessment

43:57Area or SAA. Um different than many of

44:01our tools here in the city, this tool is

44:04actually sponsored by the community in

44:07terms of bringing it forward to create

44:09an additional tax specific to an area to

44:12create revenue for specific needs that

44:15are identified by that community. So, to

44:18be clear, it was originally the

44:19community's request that we began this

44:22process to be able to measure the amount

44:24of buy-in we had from local property

44:27owners, which is required before the

44:29city or council would take action to be

44:31able to bring this to reality.

44:34In the case today, it's clear the buy-in

44:36just isn't there. It's understandable

44:39given the current economic challenges

44:41that are being faced by small businesses

44:43from increasing costs across labor,

44:46supplies, and rent. Additionally, we

44:48know that Sugar House has survived

44:50several large-scale road and utility

44:52improvement projects, and that it's

44:54still something that many of our

44:56business owners are still recovering

44:58from. Now, just because it's not moving

45:01forward today, doesn't mean it's a never

45:04for Sugar House. Um as a representative

45:07for the area, I believe that there will

45:09be a future date where this action may

45:11have more community support um for

45:14services and solutions that we see

45:17already happening in our downtown

45:19business district uh specifically

45:21calling out the downtown ambassadors

45:23that help with cleaning, safety, and

45:25hospitality.

45:27I want to quickly express my gratitude

45:28to the local business owners and

45:30operators who have reached out to share

45:33their input related to the current

45:35conversation about the proposed SAA.

45:38Your voices have been heard, and we hope

45:40that you continue to be involved in the

45:42discussions about the business district

45:44through our Sugar House Chamber and

45:46Community Council. I also want to thank

45:48the mayor and her team, especially uh

45:51including our economic development

45:53leaders. Your time and expertise to help

45:56scope and support the Sugar House

45:58leaders who brought this initiative

46:00forward is much appreciated. If you are

46:03operating in a business here in Salt

46:06Lake City, you should know our economic

46:08development team. They have enthusiasm

46:11for building the city's economy

46:13stretching from major employers to

46:15aspiring new business owners, and they

46:17have always impressed me with their

46:19attitudes and their professionalism.

46:21Sugar House appreciates all of the staff

46:24and team members who gave to this

46:25project. Finally, I want to give my

46:28appreciation to the Sugar House

46:30Community Council and Chamber leaders

46:32that brought this idea forward to the

46:34city. I know it's been a decade of

46:37discussion amongst our community and

46:39really appreciate the leadership of

46:41Landon, Judy, James, and Scott among

46:43many others who have helped translate

46:45that discussion into the action for

46:47consideration. These volunteers have

46:50given from their traditional day jobs to

46:52help create a more connected community

46:54across Sugar House businesses, and that

46:57connected community extends well beyond

47:00this SAA discussion. The Sugar House

47:02Chamber is an important organization if

47:04our for our community, and I encourage

47:07all of our Sugar House businesses, both

47:09renters and landowners alike, to get

47:11involved. We can do really great things

47:14together as a community, and that is the

47:17future that I look forward to for

47:19District 7. So, thank you for the

47:21opportunity to share those comments

47:23ahead of the final vote.

47:26>> Thank you, Council member Young. The

47:27motion was yours and seconded by Council

47:29member Jennifer and Peer Peers.

47:32Uh I'm going to call the question. All

47:34those in favor say I.

47:36Any opposed? Abstentions? This motion

47:39carries unanimously.

47:41Um the unfinished business section of

47:45the agenda is uh item E1, which is a

47:49legislative action requesting review of

47:52risk management policies.

47:54I uh will look for a motion.

47:56>> Mr. Chair, I move that the council adopt

47:58a legislative action requesting the

48:00administration to evaluate the current

48:02levels of coverage administered by risk

48:05management and assess whether those

48:07levels should be updated to reflect

48:09current costs and economic conditions.

48:13>> Second.

48:17>> I couldn't second that one, but I would

48:19have loved to.

48:20Uh, thank you.

48:21Um, is there any discussion?

48:23Council member Young made the motion.

48:25Council member Carlson seconded. Um,

48:28I I'm going to call the question. All of

48:30those in favor say I.

48:31>> I.

48:32>> I.

48:33>> Any opposed or abstentions? This motion

48:36carries unanimously.

48:37Uh, there is

48:39item E2, which is a legislative action,

48:42tree preservation amendment. I will look

48:44for a motion.

48:46>> Mr. Chair, I move that the council adopt

48:48a legislative action requesting that the

48:50administration review and eval-

48:53city code regarding tree policies with

48:55an emphasis on preservation during new

48:57development throughout Salt Lake City

48:59and return to the council with

49:01recommendations for potential amendments

49:03that support the community's

49:04environmental health.

49:06>> Second.

49:06>> Second.

49:09>> Motion by Council member Carlson,

49:11seconded by Council member Dugan.

49:14Uh, any discussion?

49:16Council member Carlson.

49:17>> Um,

49:19this uh, legislative action really is

49:22um, in response to thinking about as we

49:25continue to grow as a city, how can we

49:27continue to care for and protect and

49:30preserve our um, urban forestry,

49:33recognizing the tremendous benefit that

49:35mature trees bring to our communities.

49:37And so I'm looking forward to hearing

49:39from the administration ideas about how

49:41to strengthen those protections.

49:44>> Thank you. I'm going to call the

49:46question. All of those in favor say I.

49:48>> I.

49:49>> I.

49:50>> Any opposed or abstentions? This motion

49:53carries unanimously.

49:55Our final item is E3. It's a legislative

49:58action for construction in the

49:59right-of-way project signage

50:02requirement. I need a motion.

50:04>> Mr. Chair, I move that the council adopt

50:06a legislative action requesting that the

50:08administration review and prepare

50:09recommendations that would require

50:11informational signage to be posted at

50:13construction progress projects affecting

50:16the public right-of-way throughout Salt

50:18Lake City.

50:19>> Second.

50:19>> Second.

50:21>> I uh have a motion by Council member

50:23Petro and seconded by Council member

50:25Warren. It's not against anybody here. I

50:27just heard it first. I uh Is there any

50:30discussion?

50:32>> Uh

50:33just say I appreciate uh Mr. Chair, you

50:36I think you were the originator of this

50:39um request and

50:41um I think this makes a lot of sense and

50:43um I hope it's something that we can

50:45add.

50:47>> Thank you. I I even today I got a few

50:49messages from constituents about some

50:51road projects that they didn't know who

50:53was owning it and we're still trying to

50:55find out who is doing what. I think this

50:58will be a big uh improvement for

51:00transparency with our constituents. So,

51:03thank you for supporting that. Soon,

51:05well, I I'm going to call the question.

51:06All those in favor say I.

51:08>> I.

51:09>> Any opposed?

51:11Any abstentions? So, thank you for

51:13supporting that. This motion was

51:14unanimous. Um

51:16Uh now I have the portion of consent. Um

51:20I need a motion to approve.

51:22>> Move for approval.

51:25>> Second.

51:27>> I

51:28uh

51:28uh

51:29Council member Warren made the motion.

51:31Council member Jennifer Napier Pierce

51:33made the second. All of those in favor

51:35say I.

51:36>> I.

51:36>> I.

51:37>> Any opposed?

51:39Any abstentions?

51:40Uh motion carries unanimously.

51:43Um

51:44I

51:46um

51:46Now we are in the section G of the

51:50agenda.

51:51Are there any questions for the mayor?

51:56Thank you, mayor, for being here today.

51:58Um,

51:59I there are no questions. So, now we are

52:02going to the section G2, which is

52:06the

52:08the general comment section of the

52:09agenda.

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53:40If you have issues on Zoom, you can

53:43contact staff support. Or if you have uh

53:45needs here, you can reach out to staff

53:48member.

53:49Um,

53:50Taylor, let's begin with our first

53:52general comment.

53:56>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have about 17

53:58people registered to speak. The first

53:59will be Nicholas Glenn, followed by MJ

54:01Powell, and then Kate Groesinger.

54:04Nicholas, you may now unmute.

54:08>> Hello. My name is Nicholas Glenn. Can

54:10you all hear me?

54:12>> Yes, we can hear you.

54:13>> Okay. Awesome. I'm a resident of

54:15District 6 living on the East Bench. And

54:18I am extremely concerned about the

54:21Sinclair pipeline that is being proposed

54:24by HF Sinclair. I am worried about the

54:26risk that it presents to me and my

54:29neighbors over on the eastern side of

54:31the city near where

54:33Emigration Canyon is, about the concerns

54:36of a leak in the pipeline, and also

54:37about the construction, the disruptions

54:39to the community, to our neighbors, to

54:42our ability to drive down our roads, and

54:45our quality of life living in the area.

54:47I would love to hear from the council. I

54:50know I appreciate you guys taking the

54:52meeting

54:53last week to meet with Sinclair to get

54:55facts and information about the

54:57pipeline. I would love to hear from the

54:59council about what your thoughts are on

55:03future steps regarding the pipeline as

55:06far as like what the city can do to

55:07potentially prevent the pipeline, or

55:11if the city is speaking with the state

55:14about the state's thoughts on the

55:15pipeline, where they are at for

55:17transparency for the residents on what's

55:19happening here. I am, you know,

55:21concerned about the health risks and the

55:23safety risks long-term to our

55:25communities, and I want to know what the

55:28city is doing beyond the fact-finding

55:30missions, what the next steps are, what

55:33are your guys' goals and plans as far as

55:35potentially stopping the pipeline. I am

55:37encouraged that many of our city council

55:39members appear to at least be

55:40tentatively against the pipeline and are

55:43interested in

55:46finding alternative routes or preventing

55:48the pipeline from being in our

55:49community. So, I appreciate that and

55:51thank you.

55:52Thank you for the time to speak to you

55:54today.

55:56>> And next will be MJ Powell followed by

55:59Kate Groesinger and then Cindy Cromer.

56:02MJ, you may now unmute.

56:06>> Good evening, city council, Mayor

56:08Mendenhall,

56:10Chief Leeb and Salt Lake City Fire

56:12Department.

56:14I would like to take a moment to honor

56:16the life and service

56:18Johnny Stevens.

56:21Many people knew Johnny as a

56:22firefighter, a union leader,

56:27and the president of Local 81.

56:30I was fortunate enough to know him in

56:32another way as well.

56:34I had the opportunity to knock doors

56:36with Johnny on the west side of Salt

56:38Lake City.

56:39What always stood out to me was how

56:41genuinely interested he was in hearing

56:43from people.

56:45He was not simply going through the

56:47motions of having conversations.

56:50He listened.

56:51Whether someone had concerns about their

56:53neighborhood,

56:55questions about city services, or simply

56:57wanted to share their perspective,

57:00Johnny made them feel heard.

57:03Just as importantly, he was always

57:04prepared to connect with people with

57:06useful information,

57:08the resources and possible solutions

57:10they might have been looking for.

57:13He understood that public service was

57:14not just about showing up. It was about

57:17making a meaningful difference in

57:19people's lives.

57:21Johnny led by example. He demonstrated

57:23what servant leadership looks like

57:26through his humility, compassion, and

57:28commitment to both his profession and

57:30his community, as well as those he

57:32loved.

57:35Through that leadership and example, he

57:37influenced an entire generation of

57:39firefighters, public servants, labor

57:41leaders, and community members.

57:43His impact extends far beyond the fire

57:46stations where he served.

57:49May he rest in peace, and my condolences

57:52to all of fire,

57:54as well as local 81,

57:57and his wife and family.

57:59See you on the other side, brother.

58:04>> Next will be Kate Grotsinger, followed

58:07by Cindy Cromer, and then Deborah

58:09Worthen. Kate, you may now unmute.

58:12>> Hi there, can you hear me?

58:15>> Yes, we can.

58:15>> Great. Hi. So, um I'm here, and I don't

58:19know how to turn on my video, um but I

58:21am here to comment on the Sinclair

58:23pipeline.

58:24Um I work for a group called the Center

58:27for Western Priorities. We're public

58:29lands conservation group, and every

58:31year, for work, I study oil and gas

58:33leaks that are um reported to states,

58:36including Colorado, Wyoming, and New

58:38Mexico.

58:39Um these are the top oil and gas

58:40producing states in the West, and um

58:43basically what my report finds every

58:45year is that there is no safe way to

58:47build oil and gas infrastructure. There

58:49are always leaks. It is not a matter of

58:52if, it's a matter of when. In fact,

58:54Colorado um is finding that when

58:56operators go to close in oil and gas

58:59wells, um a lot of the

59:01related infrastructure has actually been

59:03leaking for for years.

59:05Um my concern with this pipeline is that

59:07I live in the Avenues. Um I recreate in

59:09the Wasatch. I drink water that comes

59:11from this watershed.

59:13Um and I am really concerned that that

59:15about the impact pipeline

59:17Um the Dakota Access Pipeline, which

59:19many of you may remember, built on the

59:21um

59:22the reservation up in North Dakota. Um

59:24when they constructed that pipeline, it

59:26spilled over a million gallons of waste

59:28and it there have been at least four

59:30leaks

59:32since that pipeline was finished. So, in

59:34closing, I I oppose this pipeline. I

59:37really I know that you guys are on our

59:38side, but I really want you to fight for

59:40it. Um

59:41I'm vital linking my report in the chat

59:43so you can see it. Um there's no safe

59:45way to build this pipeline and it

59:47absolutely threatens our clean water and

59:50um our watershed and you know, the

59:52wildlife and everything that relies on

59:54this watershed. So, please oppose the

59:56pipeline. Thank you so much.

1:00:00>> And next is Cindy

1:00:02Albatross

1:00:03Wasatch

1:00:04Lexington

1:00:06Cindy is here on Zoom.

1:00:08>> Hi, my name is Cindy Cromer. I avoid

1:00:10repeating my comments to this council.

1:00:13The one tonight is admittedly a re-tread

1:00:15of a comment that I made about the

1:00:16Silverado proposal next to St. Mark's

1:00:19Cathedral.

1:00:20The Silverado proposal was one of three

1:00:23up-zonings that the East Downtown

1:00:24community had to deal with at the same

1:00:26time.

1:00:27Now there are two proposed up-zones in

1:00:30East Central, Hardage and Trolley.

1:00:33I'm speaking with 50 years of experience

1:00:35in investment real estate. Nothing is

1:00:38more important than location. It is

1:00:40location, location, location.

1:00:43If you rezone properties east of State

1:00:45Street, developers will continue to

1:00:47petition for up-zonings there. And the

1:00:50city will see less or no development

1:00:53occur on State Street, downtown, and the

1:00:56west side.

1:00:57State Street is currently the city's

1:00:59armpit with a few bright spots like

1:01:02Astra and Sky.

1:01:04Our downtown has a smile marred by

1:01:06missing teeth where there are surface

1:01:08parking lots.

1:01:09Property owners will hold on to those

1:01:11parking lots for another generation

1:01:14unless you provide a reason for them to

1:01:15change.

1:01:17You are in charge of where development

1:01:19occurs. The seven of you move um more

1:01:22than anybody else, other any other

1:01:25group, other than perhaps the LDS Church

1:01:27and State, you're in charge of where

1:01:29things happen.

1:01:31You can upzone east of State Street.

1:01:33That will occur at the expense of plans

1:01:36you have approved for life on State,

1:01:38Ballpark next, and the Power District.

1:01:41And I want to digress, if I have a few

1:01:43more seconds, to give Soren Simonsen

1:01:45credit, because it was many, many years

1:01:47ago, across the hall, when he was on the

1:01:49council, that he said, when things were

1:01:51quite slow in the city,

1:01:53"If you build a building this big here,

1:01:55it will drain all the development

1:01:57potential out of the surrounding area."

1:02:00And that's when I got it. It's a

1:02:02hydraulic model.

1:02:04Thanks.

1:02:06>> Next will be Deborah Rothol, followed by

1:02:09Lexi Tuodenham, and then Brooke Smith.

1:02:12Deborah's here in person.

1:02:14>> My name is Deborah Rothol. I've

1:02:16lived in District 4 for 28 years. I'm

1:02:20here about the upcoming vote on the

1:02:22Hardage upzone request for three plots

1:02:25at the corner of Linden Avenue and 800

1:02:28East, between 3rd and 4th South.

1:02:31It's unfortunate that the Hardage Hotel

1:02:34Development Company has let

1:02:36medium-density properties, which provide

1:02:38naturally affordable housing,

1:02:40deteriorate

1:02:42over the 20 years that they've owned

1:02:43them.

1:02:46The buildings hold wonderful historic

1:02:49value. One is on the National Historic

1:02:51Registry, and they house valued

1:02:53neighbors.

1:02:57Hardage will make plenty with the

1:02:58existing zoning on the adjoining lots

1:03:01toward 400 South, and by building even

1:03:04at the proper scale, plenty.

1:03:07Three things from the city's record.

1:03:09First, our Planning Commission voted 6

1:03:11to 1 to deny the general plan amendment.

1:03:15They found no evidence that it meets

1:03:17consideration three, consistency with

1:03:20adopted plans. That's not a close call.

1:03:23Six commission commissioners said no.

1:03:26Second, the only reason staff gave for

1:03:29amending the plan is that tracks has

1:03:31expanded since 2005.

1:03:34The line on 400 South opened in 2001,

1:03:38four years before the plan was adopted.

1:03:40The plan was written with rail already

1:03:43in place. Nothing has changed, so the

1:03:45basis to amend the plan

1:03:48isn't there.

1:03:50Third, in 2012, this council adopted the

1:03:53400 South Livable Communities project

1:03:55and deliberately left these three

1:03:57parcels out of the transit station area.

1:04:01The council drew that line on purpose.

1:04:04Please deny the general plan amendment.

1:04:07Hold the line the council drew in 2012.

1:04:10Thanks.

1:04:13>> Next is Lexi Tuddenham, followed by

1:04:16Brooke Smith, and then Cindy McDonald.

1:04:18Lexi, you may now unmute.

1:04:23>> Hi there. Lexi Tuddenham. I am the

1:04:26executive director of the Healthy

1:04:27Environment Alliance of Utah.

1:04:29Thank you for the opportunity to speak

1:04:31tonight. I speak on behalf of our 22,000

1:04:34or more members and supporters of the

1:04:36cause of the state, but most especially

1:04:38the ones who live in the pathway and

1:04:40along

1:04:41the watershed that will be affected if

1:04:44the S- H- of Sinclair pipeline is

1:04:46constructed. We have a lot of members

1:04:48and I've been hearing stories for years

1:04:50about

1:04:51folks who were affected by the Red Butte

1:04:54oil spill

1:04:55back in the day. I think it the Chevron

1:04:57spill really speaks to

1:05:01the health effects that we can see out

1:05:03of the polluted gasoline. So, there are

1:05:04a lot of differences that we've have

1:05:06already been discussed. I won't

1:05:08replicate any of what's already been

1:05:09said, and I know that the council is

1:05:11taking a good hard look at this, but I

1:05:12want to emphasize that from the

1:05:15perspective of an organization that

1:05:16speaks for a healthier future for the

1:05:18state,

1:05:19we vigorously oppose this and and hope

1:05:22that the council will do the same. Thank

1:05:24you.

1:05:26>> Next is Brooke Smith, followed by Sandy

1:05:29McDonald, and then Jack Strauss. Brooke,

1:05:33you may now unmute.

1:05:37>> Thank you. I appreciate the time.

1:05:39Again, not to be redundant, but

1:05:41further comments on the immigration

1:05:43pipeline as others have

1:05:45stated

1:05:47earlier this evening.

1:05:49So, allow me to pose a few, you know,

1:05:51hypothetical questions to ask ourselves.

1:05:54And some of these

1:05:56questions we, you know, we may or may

1:05:58not know the answer to, but again, given

1:06:00the massive negative impact impact on

1:06:02citizens that are both upfront, right? I

1:06:06e.

1:06:07You know,

1:06:08moving through our community, but

1:06:10potentially downstream as others have

1:06:12have indicated. Is it truly necessary as

1:06:15a as a municipality to accept these type

1:06:18of things? So, again, a few hypothetical

1:06:20questions. Number one, what do we get

1:06:22out of this deal?

1:06:24Is it quantifiable? In business

1:06:26terminology, one might ask, what is our

1:06:28return on investment?

1:06:30What does Sinclair get out of the deal?

1:06:32I think we know the answer to that is

1:06:34profits. They, you know, they want to

1:06:36make money, naturally. What do city

1:06:37leaders, the council, and administrators

1:06:40get?

1:06:41Is it really worth it?

1:06:44What does the risk-reward equation look

1:06:46like?

1:06:49You know, and again, if if we think in

1:06:52in more general terms, you know, we

1:06:54we've seen this issue recently with the

1:06:55Parleys Canyon

1:06:57gravel

1:06:59pit issue.

1:07:00You know, again, I ask I ask, you know,

1:07:03a hypothetical question, why Why it seem

1:07:05like corporate interests continue to be

1:07:07a priority?

1:07:08Is it

1:07:10you know, does

1:07:11does enough of the tax revenue that is

1:07:12generated from these projects really

1:07:14trickle down as we saw back in

1:07:17in the Reagan era to the benefit of of

1:07:19our fellow constituents?

1:07:20Right? You know, so benefits being fire,

1:07:22police, libraries, park services, you

1:07:25know, that type of thing. Is that really

1:07:26enough to offset the negative effects

1:07:29um on on health and well-being of

1:07:31everyone on these type of projects?

1:07:35Thank you.

1:07:39>> And next is Cindy McDonald followed by

1:07:42Jack Strauss and then Brian Mutch. Cindy

1:07:46Mutch is here in person.

1:07:48>> Mayor, Council, thank you so much for

1:07:50this evening. We appreciate all of your

1:07:53efforts.

1:07:55Sinclair already has a pipeline that

1:07:58runs through a rural area. So, if there

1:08:01is a calamity, it would be much easier

1:08:05to clean up

1:08:07rather than a highly populated area.

1:08:11Thank you.

1:08:15>> And next is Jack Strauss followed by

1:08:18Brian Mutch and then Ed Canada. Jack is

1:08:20here in person.

1:08:22>> Hello Council, uh Mayor. Thank you so

1:08:23much for taking comments tonight. My

1:08:24name is Jack Strauss and I'm the

1:08:26Executive Director of Save Our Canyons,

1:08:28a local nonprofit here in Salt Lake

1:08:30that represents 15,000 people across the

1:08:32valley and Wasatch Front. Uh the mission

1:08:35of our organization is to protect the

1:08:36beauty and wildness of the mountain

1:08:38range. So, you can imagine when I

1:08:39learned about a

1:08:41refined fuel pipeline crossing the

1:08:43Summit County, Parleys Watershed,

1:08:45Emigration Canyon, the foothills, and

1:08:46wrapping around the bench into our city,

1:08:48I was quite concerned. And the more

1:08:50information we gathered, the more

1:08:51concerned I got. I'm I'm very worried

1:08:54about public and environmental health

1:08:55that could come out of this pipeline if

1:08:57we had a spill,

1:08:59if we had [clears throat] a earthquake,

1:09:00and God forbid a fire. Um even a leak

1:09:03would pollute

1:09:05the headwaters of the

1:09:06headwaters of our drinking water for um

1:09:08thousands of people downstream.

1:09:10So, I came to the meeting last week, and

1:09:13I listened to your questions of HF

1:09:16Sinclair, and I want to say thank you

1:09:18very much for your

1:09:20uh strong opinions on this issue, and I

1:09:22want you to know that we have your

1:09:23support, and we'll help you if we can

1:09:25work on this. Um

1:09:28I think there's a lot of levers that we

1:09:29can pull, and I hope we can see this

1:09:31through to help um fight this really bad

1:09:34project that's I think really dangerous

1:09:35for our for our city and for our

1:09:37mountains. Um one of the things that our

1:09:39organization is really good at is

1:09:41organizing people um from across the

1:09:43valley, uh and people that love and rely

1:09:45on these mountains. So, we've been doing

1:09:47that since we learned about this

1:09:48pipeline as we continue to educate

1:09:49people. Um we've had probably the

1:09:51biggest outpouring of support uh in

1:09:54opposition to an to an issue that we've

1:09:55had since the gondola. In about 2 weeks,

1:09:57we've compiled almost 1,300 signatures

1:10:01that I will leave for you here tonight.

1:10:02So, know that people from across the

1:10:04valley have your back as you work to

1:10:05find tools to fight this bad project.

1:10:07Thank you.

1:10:11>> And next is Brian Minch, followed by Ann

1:10:13Canada, and then Don L.

1:10:15Brian's here in person.

1:10:18>> At last week's Sinclair presentation, I

1:10:20was very impressed with questions the

1:10:22council asked and your preparation.

1:10:25You did your homework.

1:10:26But there is still more important

1:10:28information.

1:10:29Time and again, Sinclair made vague

1:10:32claims about commitments to highest

1:10:34standards, industry's tightly regulated,

1:10:36they don't want a catastrophic leak,

1:10:37they live here, too, blah blah blah.

1:10:40Chevron would have said the same thing

1:10:42before their pipeline ruptured twice in

1:10:442010.

1:10:46In fact, they did say the same thing in

1:10:48multiple meetings we had with them when

1:10:50I was

1:10:51part of a community working group formed

1:10:52to design a longitudinal health

1:10:54surveillance on behalf of the harmed

1:10:56residents.

1:10:58But according to the US Pipeline and

1:11:00Hazardous Material Safety

1:11:01Administration, there were at least

1:11:039,329

1:11:06fossil fuel pipeline leaks nationwide

1:11:08from 2010 to 2024.

1:11:11That's an average of 1.7 a day. But the

1:11:14real number is even much higher than

1:11:15that because Texas alone reports on

1:11:18average 30 pipeline leaks per day.

1:11:23No doubt every one of them involves a

1:11:25company that makes the same promises

1:11:27Sinclair does.

1:11:29I was an expert witness for a Red Butte

1:11:30Creek plaintiff.

1:11:32His teenage son woke up early that

1:11:34morning blind.

1:11:36And that lasted for several hours.

1:11:39The father was a healthy middle-aged

1:11:40male who died of pulmonary fibrosis 5

1:11:43years later.

1:11:44Likely caused by hazardous VOCs. Lung,

1:11:48bone marrow, brain, and chromosomal

1:11:50toxicity are known consequences of

1:11:52benzene exposure.

1:11:5413 months after the spill, we measured

1:11:57carcinogenic chemicals in the creek 400

1:12:01times higher than what the EPA

1:12:04considered safe.

1:12:06Many residents continue to have various

1:12:08symptoms years later.

1:12:10So, in many ways a gasoline spill is

1:12:12even more hazardous hazardous than crude

1:12:14oil.

1:12:15Salt Lake's future does not depend on

1:12:18more gasoline. It

1:12:23Thank you.

1:12:25>> Next is N. Canada followed by Don L. and

1:12:28then Kai Barrera. N. is here in person.

1:12:33>> Hello, Salt Lake City Council and Mayor.

1:12:35My name is N. Canada, District 2, and I

1:12:37am a housing lobby leader for the

1:12:38Wasatch Assembly. We are joining public

1:12:40comment today to advocate for our

1:12:42housing policies in the Wasatch

1:12:43Assembly's 2026 policy agenda.

1:12:45Based on KUTV Based on a KUTV article,

1:12:48only 16% of homes in in the Salt Lake

1:12:51City market are considered affordable.

1:12:53This is a crisis and we need bold

1:12:55solutions to meet our community's needs.

1:12:58More money needs to go towards building

1:12:59housing and less money needs to go to a

1:13:02a bloated police budget.

1:13:04The city is making strides with thriving

1:13:05in place and housing SLC. The only

1:13:08housing SLC goal that has been completed

1:13:10is the 30 to 80% AMI units with 6,080

1:13:13either completed, under construction, or

1:13:15planned.

1:13:17The goal for deeply affordable

1:13:19um deeply wealth building units is not

1:13:21even close to the goal.

1:13:23We do not discount these accomplishments

1:13:25towards affordability, but it's not

1:13:26enough nor bold enough.

1:13:28We need to build community land trust

1:13:30apartments where rents will not be

1:13:31significantly raised over time by

1:13:33landlords. We need at cost condos that

1:13:36can build community ownership within the

1:13:37city.

1:13:38Below are our policies to help our

1:13:40community with both homelessness and

1:13:41chronic renting.

1:13:43No homelessness sweeps, passing

1:13:44expanding housing option plan, we

1:13:47endorse Walks approach.

1:13:49Property tax for at costs and CLT

1:13:51affordable housing and expanding housing

1:13:53homelessness services.

1:13:55You can see the other policies on our

1:13:56pamphlets which you've gotten in the

1:13:57past or on our website

1:13:59wasatchassembly.org. We thank Chris

1:14:01Wharton for filling out the survey. We

1:14:02hope to hear from the rest of city

1:14:04council so we can find alignment to

1:14:06solve this housing crisis. You can

1:14:08always reach out to us at

1:14:09[email protected] for questions.

1:14:11And additionally, we of course are

1:14:13against the pipeline and thankful for

1:14:15community members

1:14:16that community members are commenting on

1:14:17this important topic. I assume the

1:14:20council is aligned and thank you Chris

1:14:21Wharton for getting ahead of this by

1:14:24stating his opposition. No more fossil

1:14:26fuel infrastructure, more green energy.

1:14:28Thank you.

1:14:31>> Next will be Don L followed by Kai

1:14:34Barrera and then Kylie and Kena. Don,

1:14:36you may now unmute.

1:14:39>> I thank you council for giving us a

1:14:41chance to speak. I want to actually

1:14:43start off with the pipeline and thank

1:14:46you

1:14:47to my district council member Chris for

1:14:50being against this. This is actually the

1:14:52first thing I've heard of this

1:14:55and so that in itself is concerning.

1:14:58The one thing that I just want to

1:15:01quickly state that is so ironic to me.

1:15:03You guys started the meeting out

1:15:06acknowledging and recognizing the need

1:15:09to

1:15:10recognize Native Americans for the month

1:15:13of November

1:15:14and then now we're talking about a

1:15:16pipeline and somebody's already

1:15:18acknowledged Dakota Access. Like I just

1:15:21wonder how those two actions or thoughts

1:15:24can actually take place

1:15:26without it being so obvious. The

1:15:28pipeline should be like a hell no. But

1:15:30my original comments are to say that my

1:15:33name is Don. I'm the community organizer

1:15:35of powerful moms who care. We're a

1:15:37project of Crossroads Urban Center. We

1:15:41look forward to meeting with council

1:15:42members, talking about the ineffective

1:15:45housing systems in Salt Lake City.

1:15:48We know as mothers that even if we work,

1:15:52even if we have disabilities,

1:15:55the current housing

1:15:57often times leaves us in inadequate

1:15:59shelters or even without shelter access

1:16:01because they're full. So we urge the

1:16:04council to have a mindset of housing

1:16:06first. That is not a dirty concept. It's

1:16:10not a dirty word. Housing first and

1:16:13family supported of housing really has

1:16:17to come in place in your budget before

1:16:19you're allowing four unit properties

1:16:22here and there. Those are important as

1:16:23well, but there's been a lot of

1:16:26negligence in making sure that there's

1:16:28accessibility to the most vulnerable.

1:16:31Thank you.

1:16:37>> Next is Cabrera followed by Kylie Aquino

1:16:40and then Bernie Hart. Kai is here in

1:16:42person.

1:16:44>> Hello, long time no see you.

1:16:46My name is Kai and I am now a resident

1:16:49of Taylorsville.

1:16:51And I'm here today because I have been

1:16:53forced out of the city where I work and

1:16:55spend most of my time

1:16:57due to a lack of readily available and

1:16:59affordable housing.

1:17:02The Wasatch Assembly has brought you a

1:17:03clear set of demands developed by people

1:17:06in our community and these are one, no

1:17:09homelessness sweeps.

1:17:12Two,

1:17:13adopting WALC's expanding housing

1:17:16options plan.

1:17:17Three, property tax used for affordable

1:17:20housing and homelessness services.

1:17:25While affordable housing is a focal

1:17:27point in development in our city,

1:17:30I don't believe the interests of those

1:17:31of us who need affordable housing are

1:17:34being prioritized.

1:17:35However, the interests of real estate

1:17:37and development agencies and their

1:17:39priorities need to be more consistently

1:17:41heard.

1:17:42My top priority policies of Wasatch

1:17:44Agenda's

1:17:45Wasatch Assembly's agenda are one,

1:17:48security deposit regulation

1:17:50to make it easier for people to move

1:17:52into housing because like people who

1:17:56previously commented, we can't save for

1:17:59actually owning a home.

1:18:01People can hardly save for the deposit

1:18:03on their next place

1:18:05because we know that deposits are not

1:18:06being returned.

1:18:08No junk fees for apartment complexes.

1:18:10Lots of complexes now

1:18:13have you pay for parking, have you pay

1:18:14for garbage, have you pay for internet

1:18:16that is mandatory because the developers

1:18:18also include that in packages when they

1:18:20are constructing these housing options.

1:18:24And third would be banning RealPage.

1:18:27AI market pricing for housing should

1:18:32never be allowed.

1:18:34You were elected to represent the people

1:18:36who live here. Um unfortunately, I do

1:18:38not live here anymore, and so I'm asking

1:18:41that you listen and hear us and use

1:18:43these comments in

1:18:45>> Thank you.

1:18:48Next is Kylie Akina, followed by Bernie

1:18:51Hart, and then John Arias.

1:18:54Kylie, you may now unmute.

1:18:56>> Good evening, council members. My name

1:18:58is Kylie Akina, District 5 resident and

1:19:00member of Wasatch Assembly.

1:19:02In light of rapid rent increases from

1:19:042020 to 2026, and um evictions included

1:19:08in that increase, I'm commenting to

1:19:10advocate to add agenda items concerning

1:19:12tenant protections against evictions for

1:19:14vulnerable community members, including

1:19:16immigrants, asylum seekers, and disabled

1:19:18individuals. A- um agenda items can

1:19:20include appropriation towards universal

1:19:22rights to counsel, multilingual tenants'

1:19:25rights education and advocacy, eviction

1:19:27diversion programs, accessibility grants

1:19:29to landlords, medical crisis diversion,

1:19:32a stop to abatements throughout Salt

1:19:33Lake City, and long-term housing

1:19:36solutions with on-site health care

1:19:38and social services. Living near uh

1:19:41Liberty Park, I'm quite tired of seeing

1:19:43unhoused neighbors berated by SLCPD

1:19:45almost daily or nightly. So, any of

1:19:47these agenda items um put on the um

1:19:50um proposed by the council would help

1:19:52prevent sudden homelessness to already

1:19:54at-risk communities facing hardships due

1:19:56to removal of federal funding of

1:19:58life-saving programs. I would also like

1:20:00to echo the need for transparency on

1:20:02next steps for preventing the proposed

1:20:04immigration pipeline, and what residents

1:20:06can expect following your decisions as

1:20:08any potential leaks could lead to severe

1:20:09fire risk or displacement.

1:20:12Um in light of Indigenous Heritage

1:20:13Month, a large portion of Indigenous

1:20:15peoples are often made up of immigrants

1:20:17and asylum seekers who continue to face

1:20:20extreme ongoing cruelty at this time in

1:20:22our country. So, I encourage all council

1:20:24members not to just acknowledge

1:20:25Indigenous lands and peoples locally and

1:20:27globally, but to move toward policy that

1:20:29shapes our well-being by way of legal

1:20:31protections, as well as a distri-

1:20:33redistribution of wealth and power. That

1:20:35would include disavowing any current or

1:20:37potential partnerships with genocide

1:20:39supporting super PACs as we approach

1:20:41elections. Thank you.

1:20:46>> And next is Bernie Hart followed by John

1:20:49Arias and then Olivia Harris. Bernie is

1:20:52here in person.

1:20:59>> It's time

1:21:03for the a different dance. Time for a

1:21:05little different dance, a little form of

1:21:07different music.

1:21:09Cuz the old dance steps just

1:21:11didn't get me anywhere.

1:21:13The homeless and people that are at risk

1:21:16in the and mentally ill and addicted in

1:21:18the community are not being helped by

1:21:20current services and there's no proof

1:21:23that the services actually work. But the

1:21:26homeless services board and the governor

1:21:28and uh the UDA partnership and whoever

1:21:31else is in Mr. Shumway involved in this

1:21:34new plan

1:21:35uh is going to put more and more of them

1:21:37in jail without having provided me or

1:21:40anybody with information that the system

1:21:42worked or helped people. Nobody, no

1:21:45information. The mental health courts

1:21:47and the district attorney's office when

1:21:49I asked said the information did not

1:21:52exist.

1:21:54I'm going to start pretending

1:21:57that this is not intentional

1:21:59institutional ignorance.

1:22:02I'm just getting to going to start

1:22:04believing that there is a few people out

1:22:06there that will have a reasonable

1:22:09data-driven conversation about what is

1:22:12or is not working. I can't believe our

1:22:15entire government structure

1:22:17doesn't have some information on for a

1:22:19basis to make informed decisions on how

1:22:22they deal with the mental health and

1:22:24addiction

1:22:25in the community. I will be formal

1:22:28filing formal grammar requests with any

1:22:31organization I can think of

1:22:33and I'll be returning the results to the

1:22:35mayor's office because she is a member

1:22:37of the Homeless Services Board and I

1:22:40will be sitting back, not dancing, just

1:22:43quietly waiting for her to respond.

1:22:46And if she doesn't respond and I get no

1:22:48response, I will come back here and let

1:22:50you know that nobody that I've asked is

1:22:53providing me with information that I

1:22:55think is required to make informed

1:22:57decisions. So, thank you.

1:23:02>> Next is John Arias followed by Olivia

1:23:05Horas. John is here in person.

1:23:10>> Can you all hear me?

1:23:11Can you [clears throat] hear me?

1:23:13Good evening. Thank you guys. Um

1:23:15I uh

1:23:16I never speak it. I never

1:23:19come here, so so this is a first, so I

1:23:21feel very strongly. Um I'm

1:23:24here talking about the Sinclair oil

1:23:26project. I'm very happy to hear

1:23:28uh a lot of people against it and I I

1:23:32would urge y'all to pull no stops in

1:23:35opposing this pipeline. Uh it is

1:23:39uh first of all, let's cut to the chase

1:23:42and see it for what it actually is. This

1:23:44is a private for-profit pipeline

1:23:47that benefits

1:23:49uh Sinclair. It benefits their

1:23:51shareholders.

1:23:53Presumably it benefits some state

1:23:55legislators along the way.

1:23:57Um the legislature may be giving it a

1:23:59veneer of

1:24:01of of of

1:24:03of doing some good for the community,

1:24:07but someone asked a really good question

1:24:09about what benefit does it bring

1:24:13the communities uh up up in Summit

1:24:15County, down here in the valley. I don't

1:24:18think it brings anything any benefit.

1:24:20It's a purely for-private venture with

1:24:22all the profits going to Sinclair. All

1:24:26Sinclair is doing with this is

1:24:28socializing the risk. So, the risk is

1:24:31going to fall on the on Salt Lake

1:24:33community, on Parleys, on immigration,

1:24:35on Summit County.

1:24:37And

1:24:38so, I mean, this is a form of corporate

1:24:40welfare as presented, just plain and

1:24:43simple.

1:24:44Uh

1:24:45people have commented on the the

1:24:47environmental hazards.

1:24:49Uh I I'm on a well

1:24:52and and and little anecdote, seen them

1:24:55come through. If you see the Sinclair

1:24:59SWAT team of surveyors,

1:25:02they're Oklahoma tags, Louisiana tags,

1:25:05Texas tags, Colorado tags. There are no

1:25:07locals involved. So, my time's up.

1:25:15>> Next is Olivia Juarez, who is here in

1:25:18person.

1:25:21>> Hello council. Hello mayor. My name is

1:25:22Olivia Juarez. I am a Salt Lake City

1:25:25resident in Council District 6, and I'm

1:25:28here to speak on behalf of Green

1:25:30Latinos, a 501c3 nonprofit climate

1:25:33conservation and environmental justice

1:25:35organization with 132 members in Salt

1:25:38Lake City. And like many today in

1:25:40response to your October 13 work

1:25:42session, I've come to ask each of you

1:25:44respectfully to reject HF Sinclair's

1:25:47proposed Westline Connect project. It

1:25:50was encouraging to hear so many of you

1:25:52on the Zoom recording. Thank you for

1:25:53providing that, uh raising concern about

1:25:56the consequences of a leak, of a spill,

1:25:58or fire ignition, any other catastrophe

1:26:01that could be caused in association with

1:26:03the construction, maintenance, and

1:26:05straight-up existence of the um

1:26:08gasoline, jet fuel, and diesel pipeline.

1:26:11It's a concern shared by Green Latinos

1:26:13for two main reasons that I want to

1:26:14highlight. Uh first, many of us have

1:26:18recalled the Red Butte Creek crude oil

1:26:21spill that contaminated our wild water,

1:26:24soil, and wildlife. And as a reminder,

1:26:26it drove people literally outside of

1:26:28their homes because of their fumes.

1:26:31History tells us that pipelines owned by

1:26:34major fossil fuel companies are

1:26:36vulnerable to risk. They do not get an

1:26:38exception, and no risk is acceptable,

1:26:41especially as this presidential

1:26:43administration continues to eviscerate

1:26:45every bedrock environmental law and

1:26:47program that would protect us after a

1:26:50catastrophe. Second, I want to highlight

1:26:53that Rose Park, Federal Heights, and the

1:26:54University of Utah, areas nearby the

1:26:56pipeline,

1:26:58are really high in the EPA's

1:27:01environmental justice score EJ screen

1:27:03mapping tool for burdens to exposure to

1:27:07toxic air releases and burden with

1:27:10drinking water non-compliance.

1:27:12I will be submitting more information on

1:27:15that to you all for the record

1:27:17electronically. It's in the best

1:27:19interest of our community to reject it,

1:27:21so please

1:27:22>> Time.

1:27:26And that was the final registered

1:27:27commenter.

1:27:28>> Thank you all of you that shared your

1:27:30comment

1:27:32to today.

1:27:35Just a quick update

1:27:37to everybody here, but also to to our

1:27:39council colleagues, they I I uh

1:27:43I I'm asking

1:27:45uh the the our council staff to uh ask

1:27:48Sinclair to come back on November 10th

1:27:51uh to our work session to answer the

1:27:54questions that we

1:27:55uh we brought up in the meeting. So, uh

1:27:58we are going to be waiting for a

1:28:00response on that.

1:28:02>> Yeah, thanks, Mr. Chair. Just for anyone

1:28:04who might be listening, we have not um

1:28:05heard confirmation from Sinclair yet

1:28:07that they can make that day work, but we

1:28:09will make sure to put that out on all

1:28:11our social media channels as soon as we

1:28:13confirm that.

1:28:14>> Yeah, I I I I appreciate that and I

1:28:16think that's

1:28:17that's something important to us is to

1:28:19get answers to the questions that we

1:28:21propose.

1:28:22So,

1:28:24thank you all of you.

1:28:25Thank you everybody for your comments.

1:28:27This concludes our Salt City Council

1:28:29meeting.

1:28:30This meeting stands adjourned.

1:28:36>> Yes, excellent.

1:28:37>> Hope you feel better.

1:28:39>> Yes.

1:28:41Uh

1:28:42yes.

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