2026-08-10 - Council Briefing
Summary
Written from auto-captions. Source: the August 10, 2026 Council Briefing upload.
Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):
| Topic | Minutes | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Other business | 11 | 58% |
| 30 Salem Street Enforcement | 7 | 37% |
| FY2027 Hiring Freeze | 1 | 5% |
- Doug Hunt was excused; the agenda and adjournment each passed 6-0.
- Jacquelyn Johnson gave the invocation, and the mayor recognized Piedmont-area animal rescue volunteers who helped free Miss Kitty, a donkey stuck in mud in Fairgrove.
30 Salem Street Enforcement
7:36-14:37
- The city attorney (unnamed in the captions) briefed council: owner Mr. Leake has not provided an engineer's certification that the building is sound.
- She recommended a zoning compliance hearing and condemnation proceedings.
- A code official added that the former barber shop behind it is now used for storage and could draw a second zoning violation.
- Council voiced agreement and the attorney said she would try to schedule the hearing quickly.
FY2027 Hiring Freeze
14:45-15:47
- For the August 17 meeting, budget amendment 2027-P2-01 (staff hiring) was placed on the regular agenda.
- The revised capitalization and depreciation policy and the July minutes went on consent.
Other business
0:40-7:36, 14:37-14:45, 15:47-19:12
- The attorney warned council about a fundraising letter from a Texas police association that mentions a council resolution on quality-of-life policing and is not connected to the city or its police department.
- Members were reminded of an Employer Support of the Guard and Reserve luncheon.
Sources
- Video: https://youtu.be/o5HoTghXKMc
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Transcript
These are auto-generated YouTube captions, so names and numbers are likely misheard.
Transcript
00:04If I could have your attention, please.
00:06I'm going to recognize Mayor Pro Tem
00:07Jacquelyn Johnson for invocation.
00:10>> Thank you so much, Mayor. If we can all
00:11bow.
00:12Heavenly Father, we thank you for
00:14allowing us to gather today once again
00:16in service to our community.
00:17We ask you to give us wisdom in our
00:19discussions, patience in our
00:20differences, and clarity in every
00:22decision before us. Help us to remember
00:24the people we are here to call to serve.
00:27And let the work we do here this
00:28afternoon strengthen our city and move
00:31our community forward. Guide us, protect
00:33us, and keep our hearts centered on
00:35service. In your name we pray. Amen.
00:40>> I call to order the Thomasville City
00:42Council briefing meeting
00:44for Monday, August 10th, 2026. Welcome
00:47everybody in the chambers here this
00:48evening. We have some guests with us
00:50that we'll be recognizing shortly. And
00:53uh and our staff as well. Welcome.
00:56Our first order of business will be
00:57additions or deletions to our agenda.
00:59Mr. City Manager.
01:05>> Good afternoon, Mayor
01:06and Council.
01:08Uh I do not have any additions or
01:11deletions from the agenda that I
01:13remember.
01:14>> Okay, what's the pleasure of Council
01:16with regards to the agenda?
01:17>> Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve
01:19the agenda.
01:20>> Is there a second?
01:21>> Second.
01:24>> Okay, you may
01:26record your vote.
01:36Okay, I have six votes in the
01:38affirmative. And uh that is a unanimous
01:42decision. And I'll just mention here
01:44that uh Council Member Doug Hunt is
01:46absent with an excused absence this
01:48evening.
01:49>> [snorts]
01:51>> Our next item for our meeting next week
01:53will be the public forum. It'll be for a
01:552-minute time limit uh the subject of
01:57the uh speaker's choice at that time.
02:00Uh this evening we'll have a recognition
02:02that we're going to do and some
02:03presentations
02:05uh regarding uh the uh Piedmont Large
02:08Animal Rescue Association for helping
02:11rescue Miss Kitty, the donkey that was
02:13down in Fairgrove stuck in the mud
02:16here a few weeks ago. So, I'm going to
02:19come down front and we're going to
02:20recognize those folks at this time.
02:51>> Okay.
02:52>> Okay.
02:54Okay, we uh we're going to call you up
02:56one at a time and we'll present you with
02:58a little token of our appreciation, give
03:00you recognition for the service you gave
03:02to our city. Uh for those of you that's
03:04joining us uh
03:06on
03:07social media or YouTube, uh
03:11this donkey was stuck in the mud several
03:13month or weeks ago. Uh a lot of our
03:15first responders went down there. It's
03:17in the Fairgrove area. Uh
03:20uh they they couldn't do much with the
03:21situation. They called out a wrecker
03:23company. They called these folks that
03:25we're going to recognize here tonight
03:27from the rescue animal rescue
03:29association.
03:30And with a collaborative effort of all,
03:33they finally got the uh donkey out of
03:35the mud.
03:36Uh far as I know, the donkey's recovered
03:38well and back to health and
03:40doing fine. So, I got a thumbs up from
03:43Denise, so.
03:44So, that's very good. So, we would uh
03:48city manager will call your name and
03:49when he does, just please come up front
03:51and remain front, and and after we get
03:54everybody recognized, then we'll have a
03:55picture together.
03:57Thank y'all.
03:59>> Okay, thank you, Mayor. Uh
04:01the members I'm about to name are from
04:04the Piedmont Triad uh
04:06large I believe large animal rescue, is
04:08it?
04:09>> Piedmont Emergency Animal
04:10>> Emergency Animal Rescue. Thank you.
04:12Uh
04:12>> [snorts]
04:13>> Sandy Mayberry.
04:25Ann Slayton.
04:34Bruce
04:35Bruce Buttner.
04:46Tara Stebens.
04:55Kelly Emerson.
04:58She's not here. Okay.
05:00Uh and Michelle Brock from the Forsyth
05:02County Emergency Management.
05:06>> Michelle's over every time.
05:09>> I didn't respond. It was
05:11the volunteers with big hearts that that
05:14did that.
05:15So, she keeps us all together.
05:17>> [laughter]
05:19>> Is Alyssa Is Dr. Alyssa Cole here?
05:23She was going to try to make it. She was
05:25uh from the uh
05:27the vet that serviced the animal for
05:30many weeks, I think.
05:31Uh unfortunately, she doesn't look like
05:34she's here in the audience.
05:36>> [snorts]
05:37>> Okay, thank y'all for the service you
05:39rendered to our city through the help of
05:41this rescue, and uh we're going to
05:43recognize that. We're going to get a
05:44picture. Couple of you come on this
05:46side, if you would, with me and then
05:48I'll get in the middle and we'll
05:50we'll get a picture taken here.
05:56Look at
06:04>> [applause]
06:24>> Thank you all. As a donkey mom, that was
06:27probably the most
06:27>> [laughter]
06:28>> serious time of my
06:30life. I can't thank these folks enough.
06:32Thank you.
06:33>> You're welcome. Have a good day.
06:38>> Appreciate you.
06:39>> Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you.
06:41>> Thank you all.
06:52>> Okay, we're now down to recognitions and
06:54presentations for our meeting next week.
06:57Uh we'll have a recognition of Piedmont
06:59Crossing fire heroes and I'll do that
07:01one.
07:03Uh proclamation for National Overdose
07:05Awareness Day, uh
07:07I'll ask Council member Hunter Three if
07:08he'll do that one and proclamation for
07:11Suicide Awareness Month for September,
07:14Mayor Pro Tem Blackwell Johnson, he'll
07:16take care of that one for us at that
07:17time.
07:18Um also at that meeting we will have an
07:21a a consent agenda. We may have more to
07:23add to it.
07:24Uh but right now it'll be the the
07:26minutes of the meeting of July 13th,
07:282026
07:30and the meeting of July 20th, 2026 will
07:33be on the consent agenda.
07:36Uh we have one item, item seven, which
07:38is a regular agenda for this meeting
07:40this evening
07:41and it's discussion regarding 30 Salem
07:44Street enforcement status.
07:47Uh
07:47so, it's our our county attorney's going
07:50to take that one, I think.
07:51>> Yes, I am.
07:52>> Okay.
07:53>> Good afternoon. I never take time off.
07:55You can see what happens when I do.
07:58Um
07:59so, I'll be paying for it for at least a
08:01week and a half. Um
08:04so, 38 Salem or 30 Salem Street is owned
08:07by Mr. Leake. And there's a couple of
08:09issues going on simultaneously with this
08:12at the same with this property.
08:15The concern is
08:17twofold. There is
08:19it is in a district that does not allow
08:21a warehouse operation. As you know, Mr.
08:24Leake owns one property that's in that
08:25district that is a prior non-conforming
08:27use, so it is a warehouse and we cannot
08:31do anything about it being a warehouse.
08:33This property, though, was not opened as
08:35a warehouse. It was opened as an
08:37operating storefront.
08:41To our knowledge, it doesn't appear it's
08:43had store hours in quite some time. So,
08:46there needs to be a zoning hearing for
08:49zoning violation regarding that.
08:53Um where he'll have an opportunity to
08:54present evidence that he is operating it
08:56as a storefront. Um and if not, then
08:59it will cease to be allowed to be
09:02operating in its current capacity.
09:05The second issue we have is that the as
09:08you know, um
09:10it was deemed to be unsafe for the
09:13amount of property that was in it. And
09:16there were fire code violations. Um he
09:19did have dumpsters on site for quite
09:21some time. When they went in and did the
09:23fire inspection,
09:24they found that the second floor had
09:26collapsed.
09:27And so, our fire chief um and code
09:31enforcement officials went in, made the
09:32determination what had to be removed. He
09:35did remove all of the property that was
09:38on the second floor. There is still
09:41property on the first floor
09:44that is still deemed not safe from a
09:47fire code standpoint.
09:49The other issue is in the order he was
09:51instructed to obtain a engineer's
09:55certification that the building was
09:57structurally sound without the second
10:00floor.
10:02When I had spoken with Mr. Leak, he had
10:04indicated that he had retained the
10:07services of an engineer and that the
10:09engineer had not yet been able to
10:11provide him what he needed.
10:13I have not heard back from that. So at
10:16this point, I think it would be
10:17appropriate to proceed forward with a
10:19condemnation proceeding on the building
10:22due to it being deemed unsafe from our
10:24standpoint. At that time, he would have
10:27the ability to obtain an engineer certi-
10:30certification or make the repairs to
10:32deem it safe.
10:33Otherwise, we need to proceed forward
10:35with the condemnation and then at the
10:37same time,
10:39we can collect any liens that have been
10:42not excuse me, not liens, penalties that
10:44have been assessed. Civil penalties are
10:46different than liens. Civil penalties,
10:49in order to actually collect them,
10:51you're going to either they have to
10:53voluntarily pay or you have to sue on
10:55those civil penalties to make them
10:57become a lien that then they become a
10:59lien on the property. So it's better to
11:02resolve the issue so then you know what
11:05the outstanding penalties are and do it
11:06all in one swoop so you're not
11:08duplicating efforts. But something's
11:10going to have to be done to move it
11:12forward. It's not moving forward.
11:14So if council is of the opinion that
11:17they would like us to proceed forward
11:19with the zoning compliance hearing and
11:22the condemnation, then we can move
11:24forward on that.
11:27>> Yes.
11:28>> Okay.
11:30>> And I checked with Glenn and with Chuck.
11:33They've all followed through all their
11:34steps that they needed to thus far. So,
11:36I think they're ready for that point.
11:38>> Do either of you have any
11:40thing that you would like to add?
11:43Yeah, come come forward to the
11:45podium, please.
11:47>> And please correct me, Glenn, if
11:48anything I said was incorrect.
11:51>> Um [bell]
11:51this
11:53this actually started
11:55back in
11:582024
12:00that I first reached out to Francis
12:03and spoke with him about, you know,
12:05wanting to do an inspection in his
12:07buildings.
12:08Um
12:10he kind of gave me the runaround for 3
12:12months.
12:13And in January of '25
12:16uh that's when I actually got an
12:18opportunity to go out there
12:20with
12:21search warrants or administrative
12:23warrants so I could do the inspections.
12:25That's when I found
12:27the collapse.
12:28And
12:30you know, we've been working on that
12:31ever since.
12:33But I can say that he owns a building
12:35right directly behind it.
12:37Used to be the barber shop, which is now
12:39storage for him now.
12:41So, apparently most of his stuff he took
12:43out there, he's putting in that building
12:46as well.
12:47So, I know that's an actual business,
12:49not a warehouse.
12:51So, I just wanted to
12:53give y'all an update of what we found
12:56um with that. But there's no no movement
12:59on the other building on Guilford. He
13:01put a dumpster out there
13:04and it's just sitting there.
13:05Um
13:07but
13:09yeah, no other movement on the 500
13:11Carolina as well.
13:13So,
13:15yeah, that one.
13:16>> So, the barber shop turned storage, we
13:19can do the zoning violation on that one
13:21as well, right?
13:23>> Is it operating as a barber shop now or
13:24is he just using it
13:25>> No, it was closed, but now he's got
13:27storage in it.
13:28>> So, if it's being used as a warehouse,
13:30then there's a zoning on that as well.
13:32>> So, we've got two zonings
13:34and a condemnation
13:36that we can move on like now.
13:39>> And Glenn, I will tell you Mr. Leaks,
13:42the last thing you said to me about
13:43Guilford
13:45was that he was waiting on you to
13:46contact him and tell him what he needed
13:48to remove at Guilford.
13:51>> [clears throat]
13:55>> So, would you like to reach back out to
13:57him one more time and tell him that
13:58again while we're doing all of this
14:00other?
14:02>> I can't. After 2 years, I can do that
14:03again.
14:04>> Okay. I thought so.
14:05I thought so.
14:08>> Appreciate it.
14:08>> Thank you.
14:10>> Thank you.
14:13>> And the follow up on the zoning and the
14:14condemnation letter, I'll try to get a
14:16hearing scheduled in the next 25 days.
14:19And um well, 60 to 90 days is what by
14:22the ordinance to get this creative not,
14:24then we'll bring it before you.
14:25All right, thank you.
14:26>> Thank you.
14:29>> All right, everybody knows what
14:30presentation is, so we'll
14:32do that.
14:34Thank you, guys.
14:37All right, I'm going to turn it over to
14:39our city manager now to talk about the
14:42next couple of hours.
14:45>> Thank you. We have a very light overall
14:48agenda, so I just need to know whether
14:50you want them on consent agenda or
14:52regular agenda.
14:54Uh item A on regular agenda is
14:56consideration of budget amendment 2027
14:59P2-01,
15:01which is transferring funds to allow for
15:04uh hiring of
15:06staff.
15:07>> Regular.
15:09>> Regular? Okay.
15:14And item B is consideration of revised
15:17capitalization depreciation policy.
15:21>> How about it?
15:22>> Consent. Okay.
15:26>> Okay, so you consent agenda
15:28Monday will consist of items 6A and 6B
15:33and item 8C. Excuse me, 8B on this
15:38agenda. And then your regular agenda
15:40will be one item at this time, which
15:42will be consideration budget amendment
15:442020-2027.
15:47>> All right, thank you very much.
15:49I have a number of items for our for our
15:51meeting tonight.
15:52We have our council report and
15:55the former budget there are any of those
15:56that I'm sure everybody will be ready
15:58and
15:59make their report at the proper time.
16:03Now, do we have any additions or updates
16:05from anybody this evening?
16:07>> I just want to give an
16:09an update to council regarding a letter
16:12that you may or may not have received
16:14from a police association out of Texas
16:19that is basically soliciting funds from
16:21your residents regarding a attempt to um
16:27uh
16:28bring before you a resolution that
16:31supports policing, specifically quality
16:34of life policing.
16:36It basically accuses the ACLU and others
16:39of trying to prevent police from
16:43enforcing what we consider quality of
16:45life, which is homelessness, violations,
16:48or
16:49vagrancy, or um
16:52graffiti, things of that nature.
16:54This is not something put out by the
16:56city of Thomasville. It does reference
16:59city council
17:00uh
17:01because what they're proposing to do is
17:04send a resolution to you all to vote on,
17:07uh but really it's a fundraising effort
17:09by a nonprofit
17:11that is not associated with the city or
17:13the Thomasville Police Department. I
17:15just want to make you aware of it in
17:16case you get a contact about it.
17:19It it went out over the weekend and
17:22people are probably getting it in their
17:23mail right now.
17:25It is It is not related to us at all and
17:27quite honestly
17:29it's not even accurate because in this
17:31city at least we do enforce those types
17:33of ordinances and and take
17:36great pride in and our efforts to
17:40address quality of life whether it's
17:42through the police department, code
17:43enforcement, fire marshal's office
17:45whatever it may take.
17:47So, just want to make you aware of that.
17:50>> Thank you.
17:51>> Thank you.
17:52Uh and I asked a few of you when you
17:54came in earlier the
17:57luncheon that will be next Monday at
17:59Four Rivers Community Center
18:02uh for the
18:04uh
18:05employers support for the Guard and
18:07Reserve.
18:08I'd like for all of you that can to be
18:10there. So, if you would just let the
18:12city manager know I think
18:14I think Lisa said that she was coming. I
18:15think Diane is coming.
18:17Anybody else can let the mayor's office
18:20and uh
18:21let her
18:23All right.
18:24Talk with Bobby then. Okay.
18:26So, we'll we'll make reservations for
18:28y'all. So, appreciate that. Are there
18:31any other additions or corrections?
18:34Okay, we're down to the adjournment. Do
18:36I have a motion to adjourn?
18:37>> So moved.
18:39>> Second?
18:40>> Second.
18:42>> Okay, may I vote?
18:46Yes, six zero.
18:48And your turn.
19:00>> Yes, I got
19:01>> Is it 11:00 or 11:30?
19:02>> I think it's at 11:00. I had that's when
19:04I thought
19:04>> It will be you know shortly after 11:00
19:08And lunch is at Lunch is at noon.
19:10>> Okay, so
19:11>> Lunch is at noon but there's a
19:12presentation
