2026-09-14 - Board of Commissioners

0:01:58Heat. Heat.

0:02:20Heat. Heat.

0:12:29Good evening everyone.

0:12:32[clears throat]

0:12:32>> I think we have too many people for our

0:12:35room. So I think the sheriff and some of

0:12:38the deputies might ask several of you to

0:12:40if you'll just go out and we've got

0:12:42another room you can go into. And a lot

0:12:44of times these first couple of things

0:12:46that that people are not staying for,

0:12:49they'll get up and leave and then those

0:12:51people can have it have the opportunity

0:12:54to come back in. So

0:12:56>> I think there's some empty seats right

0:12:58back in there as well.

0:12:59>> Okay. Might be two or three in there.

0:13:07>> There [clears throat]

0:13:12we got everything set up.

0:13:15Yeah. Yes. The

0:13:16>> Yes, you'll be able to hear

0:13:20>> silence phone.

0:13:32>> So, you are here to speak at public

0:13:33addresses, not about one of the public

0:13:35hearings.

0:13:38>> Are you here to speak for one of the

0:13:40public hearings or a public address?

0:13:42The public hearings are the reasoning

0:13:44matters. The one for Eller Road or

0:13:46Belmont Road. Okay. Okay. You're

0:13:49perfect. Thank you.

0:13:55[clears throat]

0:14:14Ma'am, are you here to speak in one of

0:14:15the public hearings or a public address?

0:14:18>> I know. I know.

0:14:28>> Okay, ma'am. I'm going to let you go

0:14:30ahead and sign in, but I'm going to get

0:14:32started.

0:14:35Welcome to the Monday, September 14th,

0:14:392026 Davidson County Board of

0:14:41Commissioners meeting. We're glad to

0:14:43have you here with us tonight. Um I'm

0:14:46calling the meeting to order. Um I'll

0:14:49I'll take care of the invocation and the

0:14:51pledge tonight. So, if you will bow with

0:14:54me if you if you care to. Dear heavenly

0:14:57father, remind us that pride is a

0:15:00stumbling block to reconciliation.

0:15:03Help us to approach conflicts with

0:15:05humility. May we listen more than we

0:15:08speak and seek to understand before

0:15:10being understood. May we strive to view

0:15:14situations from multiple perspectives,

0:15:16finding common ground while dispelling

0:15:19animosity.

0:15:20In moments of heated exchanges, grant us

0:15:23the serenity to pause and reflect,

0:15:26choosing words with care. Let your

0:15:29spirit guide our responses so that they

0:15:31may be seasoned with grace. For in you,

0:15:34Lord, we find the strength to bridge the

0:15:37divides and illuminate the path to

0:15:40resolution and harmony. In your name we

0:15:43pray. Amen.

0:15:44>> Amen.

0:15:51I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

0:15:55United States of America and to the

0:15:58republic for which it stands. One nation

0:16:01under God, indivisible, with liberty and

0:16:05justice for all.

0:16:10>> For recognition, I would like to uh

0:16:13thank Mike McCalpine and Robin Moon.

0:16:17Councilman from Midway for being here

0:16:19tonight. Thank you for coming.

0:16:22And I'll turn it over to um Sheriff

0:16:26Simmons um to recognize Captain Mark

0:16:29Barnes and detention officer Connie

0:16:31Lleier.

0:16:40Good evening. It's that happy sad

0:16:42occasion. And I'm very happy for these

0:16:45two that have made it to the finish

0:16:47line. Very sad for us because we're

0:16:48losing two very good ones. Um Mark

0:16:52Barnes and Connie Lleier. Uh Connie

0:16:55started in 2003 and Mark in 2005.

0:16:59Um they Connie I mean she she about runs

0:17:03the jail. She's really sharp and all she

0:17:06does and uh we're going to miss her

0:17:08greatly. and Mark, he's been in about

0:17:11anything in the enforcement side of it

0:17:13as well. So, we're going to miss him.

0:17:14Um, he's captain of civil right now and

0:17:18uh and uh very happy for him. I think he

0:17:20he likes to cruise a little bit, so I

0:17:23think he's probably on the way, but love

0:17:25to give them a second to to say anything

0:17:28they'd like to.

0:17:32>> I just want to say I have been truly

0:17:33blessed. Um, I was a waitress and

0:17:39[clears throat] my shift I was working

0:17:41at Backcountry Barbecue in Lynwood. Um,

0:17:44it ended and I needed a job. And some of

0:17:47the guys from the sheriff's department

0:17:48was in there and said, uh, you know,

0:17:52they said, "What are you going to do

0:17:53now?" I said, "Well, I guess I'll go to

0:17:55the unemployment line for the first time

0:17:56in my life." They said, "Well, we've got

0:17:58an opening at the jail. Why don't you

0:18:00come tour it and, you know, see what you

0:18:03think?" Well, I felt special. I thought,

0:18:04man, they're offering me a job in the

0:18:06sheriff's office at the jail. What I

0:18:08really didn't know was there's really a

0:18:10turnover at the jail. And there's a lot

0:18:12of people come and go at the jail. But,

0:18:14you know, it must have been meant for me

0:18:16because I went in December of 03 and u

0:18:21here I am today. Amen. All these years

0:18:23later, and I've been very blessed.

0:18:25>> Um I wouldn't had it no other way. Thank

0:18:29you.

0:18:30>> Very proud, man. Amen. [applause]

0:18:39Good evening. Um, like I said, I've been

0:18:43here since

0:18:45late ' 05, early ' 06. Um, done about

0:18:49everything that you can do here. Work

0:18:51patrol. I've worked uh uh all the task

0:18:55force. I've worked uh in in learn

0:18:57affairs personnel, civil, I've worked in

0:19:00the courtrooms. Uh, I've done it all but

0:19:04the jail. [laughter]

0:19:06I've been there a lot.

0:19:08Uh, you know, and and in the school

0:19:11system, my my family works, uh, in the

0:19:13school system. Uh, wife and daughter.

0:19:16Uh, my other daughter works at the

0:19:17hospital. So, I tried to stay away from

0:19:19there because I didn't want to seem

0:19:21partial to them if I had to go there and

0:19:23deal with something because I'm going to

0:19:24I'm going to they're going to be my

0:19:27protection first and I didn't ever

0:19:28wanted that. So, I stayed away from

0:19:30there over the years. But I do

0:19:32appreciate my time. I've talked to many

0:19:35of you out of this room and into this

0:19:38room and you know we've uh we've seen

0:19:40eye to eye on a lot of things and and

0:19:42not some on others and but we've always

0:19:44had discussions about it and I all I can

0:19:46say is I appreciate it. I thank you for

0:19:48my time and letting me be here through

0:19:50these years. Thank you, man.

0:19:53[applause]

0:20:00>> Madam Chair, could I say something?

0:20:02Sure.

0:20:02>> Just to to both of y'all. I know uh uh

0:20:06Miss Lair, when when I was in the jail,

0:20:08I was a teenager and uh I started with

0:20:11Davidson County in 2000 and uh and I've

0:20:15seen both of y'all around. I've seen you

0:20:16in the garage with my dad and

0:20:18everything. And I just want to tell you,

0:20:20anybody that puts the badge on, y'all

0:20:21are heroes. Doesn't matter if you're

0:20:24working at the jail and trying to get

0:20:25people back into the community or if

0:20:27you're out working patrol or working at

0:20:29the courthouse. Y'all, [clears throat]

0:20:30y'all made a difference. And uh to be

0:20:33here today to walk away from the county

0:20:35after you've given your life to this

0:20:37county, I wish you the very best and I

0:20:40thank you for always being a

0:20:41professional and thank you for being a

0:20:43hero. God bless you.

0:20:47>> [applause]

0:20:52>> Mark, you've always been the epitome of

0:20:55professionalism,

0:20:56and I appreciate that, and I know the

0:20:58public appreciates that.

0:21:01Um,

0:21:04I I don't know what to say about you,

0:21:06Miss Lleair. You are excellent at what

0:21:10you do,

0:21:12>> and you going to have a hard time

0:21:13replacing her sheriff. I can tell you

0:21:15right now, uh, she's one of these people

0:21:18that most of you never hear or never

0:21:21see, but when you have to have contact

0:21:24with her, she is so nice and

0:21:27professional, and I've always

0:21:29appreciated that, and we're going to

0:21:31miss you.

0:21:31>> Amen. [clears throat]

0:21:33>> Thank you, Connie.

0:21:34>> Thank you.

0:21:35>> I take it what Commissioner Shale says.

0:21:37Thank you. I couldn't have done

0:21:38[clears throat] it any better.

0:21:42>> Okay. Thank you all. We'd like to take a

0:21:44picture and we'd like to

0:21:46>> shake your family back here.

0:21:48>> I know some of them are back here. Yeah.

0:21:50[laughter]

0:21:51>> Amen. Well, thank y'all for giving him

0:21:53to us for that long.

0:21:57[applause]

0:22:01>> Thank you, Mark.

0:22:05>> Dad, you didn't ask me if you could

0:22:06retire.

0:22:08>> I'm going to tell you, girl. We're going

0:22:10to miss you.

0:22:12There you go.

0:22:14>> Congratulations.

0:22:15>> Congratulations.

0:22:22>> Yes, ma'am.

0:22:29>> Okay.

0:22:38>> And one, two, three.

0:22:51Big fan.

0:22:52>> I love it.

0:22:53>> I love [laughter] it.

0:22:54>> This is why I work.

0:22:56>> Great.

0:23:02[laughter]

0:23:15Debbie,

0:23:16>> I think you need to get one with the

0:23:18sheriff and the two retirees.

0:23:28>> And then we'll bring everyone up.

0:23:38Tell me if I'm in your way.

0:23:39>> Oh, that's perfect right there. One,

0:23:42[clears throat] two, three. One, two,

0:23:44three. And one, two, three. And I'll get

0:23:48everything else up there.

0:23:55>> Amen.

0:23:57>> No. Yes. Come on.

0:24:00All of y'all that work with us

0:24:06go. There we go. [laughter]

0:24:13>> Amen.

0:24:15>> Some five people in there.

0:24:17>> Okay. We all ready? [clears throat]

0:24:19One, two, three. One, two, three. And

0:24:24one, two, three. Thank [clears throat]

0:24:26you. We'll get all these sent out

0:24:27tomorrow.

0:24:28>> Amen. Good job, y'all. [applause]

0:24:37>> Hey, man. Doing well. You

0:24:42>> Debbie, I'm sorry.

0:24:45>> About point for the sheriff. I thought

0:24:47you through.

0:24:51>> Major Louis asked me to do some flights.

0:24:53>> Yeah, I love it. Okay, Commissioner

0:24:55Shell, would you recognize our veterans

0:24:58tonight?

0:24:58>> Sure. Thank you, Madam Chair. Do we have

0:25:01any veterans in the office? If you would

0:25:03please stand,

0:25:09[applause]

0:25:15>> if you if you have not received the

0:25:17County Veterans P, if you'd come up and

0:25:20allow us to present you with one,

0:25:22please.

0:25:26Okay.

0:25:27One coming up here.

0:25:33>> Amen.

0:25:35>> Thank you for your service.

0:25:39>> Thank you, sir. Thank you for your

0:25:40service,

0:25:41>> man.

0:25:42Thank you for your service, brother.

0:25:44Give you a fish. How you doing? Good to

0:25:46see you. You look like that guy on on

0:25:48America's Got Talent. You ever seen him?

0:25:52That's such a scene like talking to my

0:25:55wife.

0:25:55>> It is really safe.

0:25:56>> Thank you, sir. Thank you. Appreciate

0:25:58it. Thank you.

0:26:03>> Okay. If you have not registered and are

0:26:06interested in speaking at public

0:26:08address, the paper is on the front

0:26:11table. We'll go on to the adoption of

0:26:13the agenda.

0:26:16Due to the anticipated length of the

0:26:18public hearings, I'm requesting that we

0:26:20be moved to follow the deliberation

0:26:23agenda. Also, Mr. Jones has asked that a

0:26:26closed session for Attorney Clump be

0:26:28added to the agenda.

0:26:30>> Oh, I'm sorry. My husband fusses at me

0:26:34about this all the time. I apologize.

0:26:36I'm going to start over. Okay. We're um

0:26:39because of the public hearing length,

0:26:41I'm requesting that they be moved to

0:26:43follow the deliberation agenda. And Mr.

0:26:45Jones has asked that a close session for

0:26:47attorney client privilege be added to

0:26:50the agenda. Are there any other changes?

0:26:53No other changes. May I have a motion

0:26:55and a second to adopt the amended

0:26:57agenda?

0:26:58>> Motion to adopt.

0:26:59>> Have a motion to adopt and a second. All

0:27:02in favor say I.

0:27:03>> I. Thank you,

0:27:07Mr. Mayus. Thank you. We do have a few

0:27:10people here for

0:27:12public address.

0:27:15Call on Jackie Taylor.

0:27:20>> Good evening everyone. I'm Jackie

0:27:22Taylor. I live in Davidson County and

0:27:24I've got great news for you guys

0:27:26tonight.

0:27:27I'm sure y'all are sick of hearing me

0:27:29talk about how I want to go back to

0:27:31senior services. And I want an apology

0:27:33from them. Well, I no longer want that.

0:27:37I want to go to a place where I feel

0:27:39safe, where I feel respected, and where

0:27:41I feel welcome. At one time when they

0:27:43were doing love bombing, I felt that at

0:27:45senior services, but in the end I did

0:27:46not. So I've also come to realize that

0:27:50I'm getting nowhere on my own through

0:27:53Davidson County locally. Therefore, I

0:27:56went to the website with um the North

0:27:59Carolina Division of Health and Human

0:28:01Services and I filed an official

0:28:04complaint about not the all the things

0:28:08that I've been talking to you about of

0:28:10the discrepancies with Tesa. This is

0:28:13solely about um the DAS

0:28:17paper registration.

0:28:20Tisha had written in that chronological

0:28:22documentation of issues Jackie Taylor an

0:28:25entry July 2019

0:28:28that I was having issues with Martha

0:28:30Cranthium. Well, this is a copy of my

0:28:34registration. My contract expired the

0:28:37end of May and so I was required to

0:28:40submit this June the 1st to renew my

0:28:43contract. Well, I didn't do that because

0:28:45when Tisha came down there to the South

0:28:47Mountain Nutrition site with Sabrina

0:28:49Orman and we talked about everything was

0:28:50going on and I told her that Martha was

0:28:53tampering with my food. I felt like she

0:28:54was going to poison me and I just wasn't

0:28:57going to renew it. And so I sent her an

0:28:59email and I told her that I forwarded

0:29:02that to Commissioner Matt Miselle and

0:29:05you know all of y'all know that. And so

0:29:08[clears throat] the point of all this is

0:29:10I did not renew the contract in June. So

0:29:13therefore, I was not there in July. And

0:29:16they've had almost six years to admit,

0:29:19no, you weren't there and apologize to

0:29:21me for the mistake. But they would not

0:29:23do that. And also on this form, it's got

0:29:25a place here other. You know, you're

0:29:27supposed to list when you become in

0:29:29inactive or, you know, not there or

0:29:31whatever. They give you choices, but

0:29:33other and they should have put down that

0:29:36I claimed that I was afraid that I was

0:29:38gonna they were tampering with my food.

0:29:41So, you don't put down anything else

0:29:43other than what I said and I wrote. I'm

0:29:46not renewing it because I'm afraid to

0:29:48eat the food. Well, they all they have

0:29:51to do is produce the paper and then we

0:29:53know. Well, they wouldn't do that. So,

0:29:56because they wouldn't do that, I filed

0:29:58the official complaint. They sent me a

0:30:00confirmation to my email, submitted on

0:30:02Sunday, September 13, 2026 at 10:04 in

0:30:06the morning. I will be giving these

0:30:08papers to our clerk to put in the the

0:30:11minutes for to be, you know, preserved

0:30:13forever

0:30:15and when they start the um audit

0:30:20might take some time. So, it's probably

0:30:22going to end up when you have your new

0:30:24commissioners. Ma'am,

0:30:26>> anyway, I don't have time to finish

0:30:27this. So I am giving this paper to the

0:30:31DASS,

0:30:33my nutrition program thing for May to

0:30:35show what I was doing,

0:30:37my handwritten notes showing how

0:30:40dissatisfied I was, what I wrote to the

0:30:42editor wrong on

0:30:45many levels, and where I didn't like our

0:30:48um volunteer coordinator putting Donald

0:30:51Trump's face as a funeral and spring

0:30:55ruled in my favor with These are given

0:30:58to Debbie to go into the permanent file.

0:31:00Thank you.

0:31:02>> Thank you.

0:31:05>> All right. Tyler Tyrie.

0:31:10>> Good evening, everyone.

0:31:13[clears throat] My name is Tyler Tyrie.

0:31:15I have originally planned to come up

0:31:17here and be in support of moving forward

0:31:19with the regulations rather than a

0:31:21moratorum on the data centers in this

0:31:23county. However, over the past few days,

0:31:26I have found many examples of other

0:31:28counties in North Carolina enacting

0:31:29these moratoriums and even completely

0:31:32pushing out large data centers from

0:31:34their county. For example, Edgecom

0:31:36County, North Carolina. In July 2026,

0:31:39the developer Energy Storage Solutions

0:31:42officially withdrew its proposal to

0:31:44build a massive 19.2 billion artificial

0:31:47intelligence data center campus at

0:31:50Kingsboro mega site near Tarbor.

0:31:53>> [clears throat]

0:31:54>> The cancellation happened directly

0:31:56because of intense intense public push

0:31:58back. Local residents packed meetings,

0:32:00gathered over,300 petition signatures

0:32:04raising flags about immense water

0:32:05consumption,

0:32:07massive electricity demands, and up to

0:32:09900 megawws, backup generator noise, and

0:32:12hikes in local utility bills. In

0:32:14response, the citizen to citizen

0:32:16pressure, county commissioners began

0:32:18aggressively pursuing a 24-month

0:32:20mortorium. Is that what Davidson County

0:32:23needs to do? I am more than willing to

0:32:25start a petition if that's what it takes

0:32:27to show you guys how serious this is.

0:32:31[clears throat] A six-month mortorium is

0:32:32nothing. Personally, I think that our

0:32:34county needs a 12-month mortorium for

0:32:36data centers. Thank you for your time.

0:32:40[applause]

0:32:46Tim Bumgardner

0:32:59Hello everybody. [clears throat] Hello.

0:33:01Uh I'm going to go off topic for just a

0:33:04minute. I don't I don't want to speak on

0:33:05the AI yet or the data centers yet

0:33:08because I'm actually uh I think a short

0:33:11term is a good thing, but uh I'm leaning

0:33:14towards bringing them on in and I'm very

0:33:16careful about anything that my county

0:33:17spends money on or at least I watch it.

0:33:20But I want to go back to the mines that

0:33:22I've discussed two times up here before.

0:33:25The the one over here at Silver Hill and

0:33:26the bird mine over here right on the

0:33:28edge of uh Randolph County.

0:33:31I handed everybody up here that was up

0:33:33here before

0:33:35six pages proving that those reserves

0:33:38were on that land

0:33:41and I was told once by you that they did

0:33:44not exist that no that you did a survey

0:33:47and they did not exist. I showed you the

0:33:49survey. I proved it and I hope that

0:33:51everybody in here that wants to learn

0:33:53wants the county to start producing

0:33:55revenue.

0:33:58If you want proof as to as to whether

0:34:00though there has been proven reserves

0:34:02out there, I I invite you to go to metal

0:34:05source

0:34:07and gold gold stake minerals

0:34:10metalsourcemining.com

0:34:12out of Canada and gold source gold

0:34:15strike

0:34:17minerals out of North Carolina. [snorts]

0:34:20Both of those have their website.

0:34:21They've got the proof on there that

0:34:23they've got proof so that we we settled

0:34:25for somebody on this board settled for

0:34:27$200,000 in paving materials. That's

0:34:300.00005%

0:34:33of the three billion reserves out there.

0:34:35And it's proven out there. I looked at

0:34:37it before I walked left home. Their

0:34:39stocks already rose 300% in one year

0:34:41since I brought this up. Why isn't the

0:34:43county

0:34:45getting something out of this?

0:34:47Alaska demands 5% for any oil is taken

0:34:50out of the ground. There are ways to get

0:34:52revenue off of these $3 billion of

0:34:54mines, not $200,000 peddly dollars.

0:34:57That's nothing. That's not even a piece

0:34:59of land down here at the at the lake.

0:35:03Something's going on. We can invest that

0:35:05in so many ways. The stocks already

0:35:07tripled. And I believe some of you

0:35:09probably already know that. In fact, I'm

0:35:10certain of it. I have all of that

0:35:13documents to prove this. I don't I don't

0:35:14need to debate it back and forth. The

0:35:16reserves are out there. We need to start

0:35:18looking into it and figure out how this

0:35:19county can make some money

0:35:22legitimately lawful. I don't like being

0:35:25shut down by your attorney when I go up

0:35:27here to the register deed to do my

0:35:28research. Public information is public

0:35:31information.

0:35:33I think we ought to all start looking

0:35:34into that. The AI, look, I'm good with

0:35:36that. I believe it's going to bring in

0:35:37some serious revenue, but only when the

0:35:39county starts doing things right. You

0:35:41don't take it off the homeowners. You

0:35:44produce the revenue. It's your fudiciary

0:35:46of responsibility.

0:35:48Number one, that's your oath.

0:35:51Do what's best for the county.

0:35:55[applause]

0:35:57Madam Madam Chair, I got a question for

0:35:59the board. Um, it was my recollection

0:36:03that the owner of this property came and

0:36:06told us out of his own mouth that he

0:36:08wished that this this would have been

0:36:10full of silver and gold. He's he's went

0:36:13through, he's dug, he's tried, he's had

0:36:15surveys. They dug uh 300 400 holes. They

0:36:18couldn't find any ore at all. And uh he

0:36:22said that's why he decided to start

0:36:23building houses on this area and uh to

0:36:27regulate it or to try to do something

0:36:29else with it. But it is that correct? Am

0:36:33I Am I thinking about something? Okay.

0:36:35He didn't

0:36:36>> because we heard it straight from the

0:36:37horse's mouth. Straight from the owner

0:36:39that owns the property that he wished he

0:36:41could be a billionaire that it had all

0:36:43this on here,

0:36:45>> but it's not. No, it's privately

0:36:46privately owned property and we would be

0:36:49more like a socialist country to steal

0:36:51that from somebody who owned it even if

0:36:54there was silver or gold on it. But I I

0:36:57just I thought that's what he told us.

0:37:01>> Okay. Thank you. I want to make sure I

0:37:04heard that correctly.

0:37:05>> Janine Purdo.

0:37:22Hello.

0:37:24Tonight I want to speak plainly about

0:37:26what is at stake for Davidson County.

0:37:28Duke Energy says massive new gas

0:37:31infrastructure is needed because

0:37:33electricity demand is growing. But let's

0:37:36talk about what is driving the growth.

0:37:38Duke has said data centers represent

0:37:40more than 85% of the projected load

0:37:43growth from new economic development

0:37:45projects seeking electrical service.

0:37:4885%.

0:37:50And communities like ours are being

0:37:51asked to bear the consequences.

0:37:54industrial development, air pollution,

0:37:56pipeline expansion, loss of farmland,

0:37:58threats to water, and increased demands

0:38:01on firefighters and emergency services.

0:38:05Now, there is another reason for

0:38:06urgency. The Trump administration is

0:38:08moving to roll back federal pollution

0:38:10protections affecting fossil fuel power

0:38:13plants. Regardless of your politics, ask

0:38:17yourself, does weakening pollution

0:38:19protections make Davidson County safer?

0:38:22Of course it doesn't. Building massive

0:38:24new fossil fuel infrastructure while

0:38:26weakening the safeguards meant to

0:38:28protect the public isn't common sense.

0:38:30It's reckless. And commissioners, that

0:38:33makes your responsibility greater than

0:38:35ever. We've been told state and federal

0:38:38agencies will protect us. But what if

0:38:40Washington weakens those protections?

0:38:43Who protects Davidson County? You do. If

0:38:47Washington lowers the bar, Davidson

0:38:49County must raise it. demand independent

0:38:51air and water monitoring, comprehensive

0:38:54environmental studies, emergency

0:38:56response plans, and use every lawful

0:38:59zoning and land use authority available

0:39:01to protect the county. Because Duke

0:39:03Energy, well, they'll protect Duke

0:39:05Energy. Data Center developers will

0:39:08protect their own interests. Your job is

0:39:10to protect ours. You weren't elected to

0:39:13protect corporations that may arrive

0:39:15tomorrow. You were elected to protect

0:39:18the people who are already here. And

0:39:20it's bigger than one gas plant or data

0:39:22center. It's about what Davidson County

0:39:24will become. [clears throat] We will pro

0:39:26will we protect our farms, our forests,

0:39:29our rural communities, and our

0:39:30waterways. Or will Davidson County

0:39:33become the utility corridor powering

0:39:35someone else's industrial expansion?

0:39:38Once farmland is industrialized, we

0:39:41don't get it back. And if we damage the

0:39:43Yadkin River, our drinking water source,

0:39:47there is no acceptable apology for that.

0:39:50Commissioners, years from now, people

0:39:52will look back at this decision being

0:39:54made right now. They will either say,

0:39:56"They saw what was coming and they

0:39:58protected us." Or will they ask, "Why

0:40:01didn't they stop it when they had the

0:40:02chance?" You have the chance now. Duke

0:40:06will protect Duke. The data centers will

0:40:08protect themselves. We need you to

0:40:10protect us. our air, our water, and the

0:40:13Yakan River, and send one unmistakable

0:40:16message. Davidson County is our home,

0:40:19and it will not become the sacrifice

0:40:21zone for America's data center boom.

0:40:25[applause]

0:40:32Gary or or excuse me, Oroli

0:40:39>> [clears throat]

0:40:44>> I'm here to pick up my $5,000 check

0:40:46today.

0:40:48Anyway,

0:40:49I'm tired. I come here tonight

0:40:52exhausted. I'm tired of talking to a

0:40:54group of individuals who put themselves

0:40:57before they put the people of this

0:40:58county. I'm tired of doing homework. I'm

0:41:01tired of going to visit water treatment

0:41:03plants. I'm tired of going to board of

0:41:05election meetings. I'm tired of going to

0:41:07Duke energy meetings. I'm tired.

0:41:11Knowledge is power. You people have the

0:41:14power, but very little knowledge. That's

0:41:17the problem. You are in the process of

0:41:19building a sports complex that nobody

0:41:22wants. You sign NDAs behind the backs of

0:41:25the public. It's shady and it smells

0:41:28bad. You don't believe in climate

0:41:31change. Imagine that. You all think that

0:41:34data centers are going to be the solve

0:41:36to they're going to come and solve all

0:41:38of our problems and issues. That's

0:41:40shortsighted.

0:41:42A data center is obsolete in four years

0:41:44tops. If you don't know why, ask me

0:41:47later and I'll be happy to explain it to

0:41:49you. Enough about my issues with this

0:41:52board. Even though we do have two

0:41:54responsible candidates up on this board

0:41:57here tonight, I would like to focus on

0:41:59your replacements in the upcoming

0:42:02election. If you want clean drinking

0:42:04water, air you can breathe, responsible

0:42:08leadership, a man you can trust, a man

0:42:11without a personal agenda to enrich

0:42:13himself, a person who is smart, a good

0:42:17listener, and a Marine veteran. That man

0:42:21is my friend Chuck

0:42:23Scalp Slipketsky. I knew I was going to

0:42:27[ __ ] it up. Chuck, he called out He

0:42:30calls out injustice when he sees it. He

0:42:32stands up for the people and he is more

0:42:34willing to fight back against corporate

0:42:36interests. He believes in climate change

0:42:39because he believes in science. Chuck

0:42:41was a teacher of electronics. Chuck is a

0:42:44mechanic. Chuck is a leader. Chuck is

0:42:46our best hope for a clean yet prosperous

0:42:49future. Chuck will not leave anyone

0:42:51behind. Chuck will grow our economy

0:42:54without destroying our natural resources

0:42:56and farmland.

0:42:58Chuck will listen to the public opinion.

0:43:01After all, Chuck understands that he

0:43:03will work for us and not against us. If

0:43:07you are tired of being disrespected by

0:43:09the elected officials, it's time to vote

0:43:12for Chuck. If you are tired of the lies

0:43:15from your elected officials, it's time

0:43:18for the truth. It's time for Chuck. If

0:43:22you want to know your future health and

0:43:24environment will be protected, it's time

0:43:27for Chuck. Do you know what? Do you want

0:43:31to know why it's time for Chuck? Because

0:43:34unlike people, Unlike you people, Chuck

0:43:38gives a [ __ ] Vote, vote, vote, vote for

0:43:42Chuck. Thank you. Have a good night.

0:43:45[applause]

0:43:55>> Jessica Bruff.

0:44:02Good evening. My name is Jessica Bruff.

0:44:05I'm standing before you today with

0:44:07concerns that we have been dealing with

0:44:08for quite some time. And that concern is

0:44:10transparency. For the past several

0:44:13months, I've done nothing but fight for

0:44:14my peace and tranquility. Unfortunately,

0:44:16it has not been very peaceful. In

0:44:19February 2025, a podcast aired with

0:44:21Mayor Hayes, Todd Yates, and Johnny

0:44:23Taylor. The topic was the EDC. And

0:44:25during that discussion, Todd and Mayor

0:44:27Hayes talked about transparency.

0:44:29Then in May of 2026, the county

0:44:31commissioners had a meeting concerning

0:44:33NDAs, EDC, and once again, transparency.

0:44:37Maybe we have a different idea of what

0:44:39transparency actually means. In May of

0:44:422026, Front Street Capital petitioned to

0:44:45be annexed into the city of Lexington.

0:44:47Because of this area's contagious with

0:44:50the surrounding city limits, only a

0:44:5210-day notice needed to be given to the

0:44:54county commissioners. But during those

0:44:5610 days, nothing was communicated to us,

0:44:58your citizens. I found out through a

0:45:01Facebook video, and even that video gave

0:45:03us very little information to go on. I

0:45:06was heartbroken and I was scared about

0:45:08what this could mean for our not so

0:45:10distant future. We had no one to help

0:45:13guide us. We had no explaining on what

0:45:15was to happen or what this could mean

0:45:17for our community. And I truly believe

0:45:20that if that Facebook video had never

0:45:21been posted, this may have gone under

0:45:24the radar as well. Now that the city

0:45:26limits are moving further down Highway 8

0:45:28and Lynwood Southmont Road, I have to

0:45:30ask, who's to say that when other land

0:45:33owners decide to sell their land, they

0:45:35cannot petition to be annexed into the

0:45:37city? Remember, it's not necessarily

0:45:39homes and the people. It's the land. And

0:45:42if that land continues to be annexed,

0:45:44little by little, our community can

0:45:46change. We cannot run for city council.

0:45:48We cannot even join the Lexington

0:45:51Academy because we are county citizens.

0:45:54So when the decisions are being made

0:45:56that can affect our homes, our families,

0:45:58our community, and our future, we

0:46:00deserve to know what is happening. We

0:46:02deserve to be informed. We deserve to

0:46:05have a voice and we deserve

0:46:06transparency. So speaking of

0:46:08transparency, I have a few questions I

0:46:10would like answered. Can you enlighten

0:46:12us about Project Tom Machine or Rugula

0:46:16Sunday and Atlantis B? What are these

0:46:18projects? Where will they be located in

0:46:21our county? Now, I'm not standing here

0:46:23tonight because I want to create

0:46:24conflict. I'm standing here because I

0:46:26care about my community and I care about

0:46:28what's happening to our future. All I'm

0:46:31asking is for communication, honesty,

0:46:33and transparency. We should not have to

0:46:35find out about major changes to our

0:46:38community through Facebook. We should

0:46:40not have to wonder what is happening

0:46:41around us. We deserve answers. And thank

0:46:45you for listening.

0:46:48[applause]

0:46:57Pam

0:47:00McAfey.

0:47:14>> Hello.

0:47:17Um, I'm here today as president of Revup

0:47:21NC, which stands for register, educate,

0:47:23vote, use your power North Carolina. And

0:47:26I appreciate the opportunity to speak

0:47:28before our representatives today. We,

0:47:30persons with disabilities, are the

0:47:33largest, most diverse, marginalized

0:47:35community in

0:47:37in our country, in our county. Yet, we

0:47:41continue to remain an afterthought. I

0:47:43also serve on the Davidson County

0:47:45Transportation Advisory Board and I want

0:47:48to say I'm so proud of our

0:47:49transportation system here in Davidson

0:47:52County. But I and I love it. It's very

0:47:55accessible to get on and off when you

0:47:56have a wheelchair mobility devices, but

0:47:59I'm extremely disappointed in the fact

0:48:02that the bus stops are very

0:48:04inaccessible. If you can get to a bus

0:48:06stop, great. But getting to the bus stop

0:48:09when you have a mo mobility device here

0:48:11in Thomasville or in Lexington is

0:48:13ridiculous. A lot of people have to go

0:48:15in the roads. There's no place for us.

0:48:18So I also serve on the human relations

0:48:20board and recently participated in a

0:48:22walk audit in neighborhoods in Lexington

0:48:25and seeing the disrepair. I mean I know

0:48:27that's Lexington and not the county but

0:48:30still we remain an afterthought. So my

0:48:33question is,

0:48:35oh, I've also visited some uh public

0:48:37housing.

0:48:39It's deplorable. It's falling down

0:48:41around the people who have to stay there

0:48:43and a lot of times that's the only place

0:48:44that they can't afford to stay. A lot of

0:48:46prisons with disabilities, a lot of

0:48:48seniors, that's their only option. I'm

0:48:50lucky enough to have a nice house. I'm

0:48:53lucky enough that I have a nice

0:48:55wheelchair.

0:48:56>> [gasps]

0:48:57>> My question to you is with all the

0:49:00things that are going on here in

0:49:01Davidson County that need our attention

0:49:03like our schools, like the bus stops,

0:49:06why are we investing in a sports plex?

0:49:08Why are we investing in a data center?

0:49:11you know, regardless of the the public

0:49:13outcry, regardless regardless of how

0:49:15people are concerned about these, we're

0:49:18putting band-aids on all the problems

0:49:21here and investing in things without

0:49:23listening to the people who you work

0:49:26for.

0:49:28I don't think any of my concerns are

0:49:30going to be addressed anytime soon, but

0:49:32an accessible place for me to attend

0:49:34this meeting or anyone with mobility

0:49:37device. I would love for that to be done

0:49:39at least by next time I show up here.

0:49:41That should be addressed because it's

0:49:43the ADA. It's federal law.

0:49:45In conclusion, please make sure that the

0:49:47people with disabilities in your life

0:49:49are able to vote and have a voting plan.

0:49:52Like I said, it is disability awareness,

0:49:54disability voting rights week, and our

0:49:57vote is the one thing that we all hold.

0:50:01You work for us, and I take my job as a

0:50:03voter seriously, and [snorts] it's time

0:50:05you take your job as our representative

0:50:08as seriously.

0:50:12Thank you, [applause]

0:50:20>> Kimberly Title Bomb.

0:50:35>> Can I be Am I heard?

0:50:37>> Yes, ma'am.

0:50:38>> Excellent. Uh, I'm Kimberly Tatbomb. I

0:50:41live in uh Thomasville. Do you all need

0:50:43my address or not?

0:50:45>> Nope. Okay. Um, I'm here to talk about,

0:50:49believe it or not, big surprise, data

0:50:51centers. Um,

0:50:54I think my questions are sort of

0:50:58ordinary and it's just simply why should

0:51:00we allow them here here in Davidson

0:51:03County? I mean, let's face it, if it

0:51:06happens, we're the ones that are going

0:51:08to have to deal with the noise

0:51:10pollution. The owners won't, will they?

0:51:13We're the ones who are going to possibly

0:51:15see our property taxes go up, but our

0:51:18property value go down. We're going to

0:51:21we're the ones who are going to see the

0:51:23destruction of farmland when once it's

0:51:25destroyed, we can't get it back. And

0:51:28same thing with wildlife habitats.

0:51:31Uh the owners won't have to deal with

0:51:33that. They live far, far away.

0:51:36We'll have our waterways imperiled, not

0:51:39the owners. Our electric bills are

0:51:42likely to increase to pay for the power

0:51:44plants and the transmission lines that

0:51:46these data centers are going to need.

0:51:50But are we going to reap the profits?

0:51:52No. That that goes to the owners. Um, we

0:51:57are asked to show her all of the

0:51:59burdens, but we're not going to get any

0:52:01of the benefits.

0:52:03You know, I'm reminded of what happened

0:52:06in Kentucky coal country. My first my

0:52:08late husband was from Edmonton County,

0:52:11Kentucky.

0:52:13And when the coal mines came in

0:52:15promising that they were going to strip

0:52:18mine, but they promised parks and they

0:52:20promised schools and they said that they

0:52:22were going to give good jobs to people.

0:52:25And when the when the coal was gone,

0:52:27that they were going to put it all back

0:52:28the way it was, the way God created it.

0:52:31And you know what happened? There was no

0:52:34parks. There were no schools funded by

0:52:36the coal companies. Yep. The coal miners

0:52:39got pretty good jobs for a while until

0:52:42the black lung got them.

0:52:45And then when all the coal was gone, you

0:52:48know what happened with the coal

0:52:49companies? They declared bankruptcy and

0:52:53they shut their doors. And then they

0:52:55opened them the very next week, the very

0:52:57same companies, but under new

0:52:59reorganization.

0:53:01And then the court said that they

0:53:02weren't going to be liable for what the

0:53:05previous company had promised. So if you

0:53:08want to see what big companies can do to

0:53:11a small rural community when all they

0:53:14want is profit,

0:53:16go to Edmonton County, Kentucky.

0:53:20We don't want that happening here. We

0:53:22have a beautiful county. We have good

0:53:23people here. And they most of us are

0:53:26here because we chose to be here. So

0:53:30with that in mind, I think we need to

0:53:33put the brakes on any development of

0:53:36data centers until we've had at least a

0:53:39year to study to talk to places to talk

0:53:43to people who've already have have had

0:53:45them and are dealing with problems with

0:53:47water pressure, with the so-called

0:53:50closed loop water systems, which are

0:53:52nothing of the kind, with all the

0:53:54problems that go along with it. We owe

0:53:57it to ourselves. We owe it for our

0:54:00children and to this beautiful county.

0:54:03Thank you for listening to me. But for

0:54:05God's sakes, let's slow down till we can

0:54:07get some regulation and guard rails up.

0:54:10[applause]

0:54:21All right, we're move on to item number

0:54:24eight, the consent agenda. Are there any

0:54:26items to remove from the cons? I'm on

0:54:29the list to talk.

0:54:33>> Chuck,

0:54:34>> come on up, Chuck.

0:54:35>> Come on up. I don't I don't

0:54:37>> Yeah, there.

0:54:38>> I just skip. I apologize.

0:54:40Apologize. Come on up.

0:54:43>> Well,

0:54:44I've been here a number of times before

0:54:47>> and I really would like to say something

0:54:50good about this board and there's

0:54:53actually two things I can say. Number

0:54:56one, I really appreciate the time when

0:55:00uh you guys asked for uh more time

0:55:04dealing with the um um the trans park

0:55:08and the uh environment. I appreciate

0:55:10that. And the second thing you you uh

0:55:14this board did was when you brought down

0:55:17the the flock cameras, you voted for

0:55:19that. Those are the only two things I

0:55:22can appreciate and thank you for, and I

0:55:25honestly do. Now, what in the world were

0:55:29you doing with the flock cameras anyway?

0:55:32Number one, all of us didn't want it and

0:55:35put so much pressure on you that you had

0:55:37to pull them down. Meanwhile, you wasted

0:55:40a lot of money. According to one source,

0:55:44$85,000.

0:55:46I don't know if that's accurate, but I

0:55:48know you spent some money. Money that

0:55:50could have been used elsewhere on so

0:55:53many other projects. I've been asking

0:55:56for month after month after month, where

0:55:59are you driving this bus? What do you

0:56:02see as the future of Davidson County?

0:56:05Cuz my wife and I moved here recently,

0:56:08about 3 years ago, because we fell in

0:56:10love with the place. and you're

0:56:12destroying it by I don't know what

0:56:16either incompetence or corruption

0:56:18because I can't come up with any other

0:56:20terms that would explain what you're

0:56:23doing. Nothing seems to make any rhythm

0:56:26or rhyme. Nothing seems to get into your

0:56:30heads what we want as a county. Now, one

0:56:35individual on this board, and I

0:56:37certainly appreciate his efforts, sent

0:56:39me some information as to what the

0:56:42county proposed they wanted to do for

0:56:45the future. Exactly what I was asking.

0:56:48Now, this was from 2009.

0:56:53And in that, the people then wanted

0:56:56clean air. They wanted clean water. They

0:56:59wanted to help the farmers. That's

0:57:02exactly what we want. Now, it didn't say

0:57:06anything about trans parks. It didn't

0:57:09say anything about um data centers. It

0:57:12didn't say anything about uh Duke

0:57:15Energy. It did say that it wanted some

0:57:18um and it was kind of unclear, but it

0:57:21wanted some tech jobs. It did say that

0:57:25it wanted some automotive uh industry

0:57:28here, which I assume was probably

0:57:30Toyota, which that thing fell through

0:57:33from my understanding. This before I was

0:57:35here. But in any case, everyone is mad

0:57:40at you and they're mad at you because

0:57:43there's no transparency. There's no

0:57:46plan. You don't seem to have anything uh

0:57:51planned. You don't seem to have anything

0:57:53planned for the future and you don't

0:57:56seem to listen to what the people want.

0:57:59Hence, you don't represent us. And

0:58:02that's why I'm running. I'm running for

0:58:05one of your seats. And I don't want to

0:58:08run, but I don't trust any of you. Thank

0:58:12you.

0:58:13[applause]

0:58:23I didn't skip anybody else, did I?

0:58:25>> Yeah. Sorry about his name.

0:58:27>> I apologize.

0:58:30>> I didn't mean to do that.

0:58:33>> All right. Now, we're going to the

0:58:35consent agenda. Um, are there any items

0:58:38to remove?

0:58:40>> Seeing none, Madam Chair, I make

0:58:42[clears throat] a motion that we approve

0:58:43the consent agenda is read.

0:58:45>> Thank you, sir. Do I have a second?

0:58:47>> A second.

0:58:48>> A second. All in favor say I.

0:58:51>> I.

0:58:52>> Thank you very much.

0:58:56>> Okay. Item number nine, items for the

0:58:59decision information deliberation.

0:59:03First of all, um, Mr. Mayus and Dr.

0:59:06Slate will lead this off. Approval of

0:59:09Davidson County School's capital funding

0:59:11request.

0:59:14Mr. Dr. Slate here. Here he is.

0:59:16>> Yes, Dr. Slate's [laughter] here. Um,

0:59:19I'll get started. We have Dr. Slate and

0:59:21Mr. Chris Johnson here that can explain

0:59:23this uh request a little further, but

0:59:25you all are, you know, fully aware of

0:59:28the

0:59:31you all are fully aware of the capital

0:59:32improvement plan we have and they

0:59:34they've had um um over the next five

0:59:38years 12, you know, $8 million give or

0:59:42take available or or upcoming. Right

0:59:45now, we have $8.1 million available for

0:59:47them that they plan on doing some major

0:59:49capital renovations as far as HVACs are

0:59:51concerned. And today, they're just here

0:59:54to make that formal request. And I have

0:59:57a budget amendment queued up and I'll

0:59:58let them explain their plans.

1:00:02>> Good evening, Madam Chair, Mr. Vice

1:00:04Chair, Commissioners. Thank you for your

1:00:06time today and for your continued

1:00:07partnership and support of Davidson

1:00:09County Schools. Your commitment to our

1:00:11capital projects, particularly the

1:00:13critical HVAC updates to our kitchens

1:00:16and gymnasiums, is making a direct

1:00:19positive impact on the daily environment

1:00:22for our students and staff. To give you

1:00:24a clear picture of how your investment

1:00:26is being deployed, I'd like to share an

1:00:28update on the progress of the expenses

1:00:30thus far. Um, in our storage and kitchen

1:00:34areas uh since the spring, Davis County

1:00:37Schools has worked with contractors on

1:00:39split systems that have been

1:00:41successfully installed and are

1:00:43operational across five schools. Those

1:00:46being South Davidson, Brown Middle,

1:00:48Northwest Elementary, Southwood

1:00:50Elementary, and East Davidson High

1:00:52School. The total cost of these projects

1:00:54is $273,700.

1:00:58These projects are now nearly ready for

1:01:00bidding. The installation of outdoor

1:01:02large equipment for duck work uh to

1:01:06support larger changes to the kitchens

1:01:08due to the fact that they have

1:01:09significantly large hoods that pull a

1:01:12lot of air out. and our major kitchen

1:01:15HVAC projects. We have four major

1:01:17kitchen projects underway totaling

1:01:201,788,726

1:01:24at North Davidson Middle School. The

1:01:26kitchen now has a split system and duck

1:01:28work has been installed. A concrete pad

1:01:32has been poured and the outdoor unit has

1:01:34been delivered. The cost for this major

1:01:37project is $377,653.

1:01:41at Central Davidson High School. A split

1:01:44system, duck work, a new outdoor unit,

1:01:46and both supply and return return duck

1:01:50work are fully installed at a cost of

1:01:52$468,600.

1:01:55At Leadford High School, a split system,

1:01:59duck work, new lighting, and outdoor

1:02:01units with the supply and return return

1:02:03duck work are installed at a cost of

1:02:06$444,520.

1:02:09Lastly, at West Davidson High School, a

1:02:12split system and duct work are

1:02:13installed. A concrete pad has been

1:02:15poured, and the outdoor unit arrived

1:02:18today. Um, all for a cost of $497,953.

1:02:24Shifting to some updates regarding our

1:02:26gyms. Work is commenced on the North

1:02:28Davidson High School gym project with

1:02:30Matthews Mechanical starting replacement

1:02:33efforts designed to proceed without

1:02:35impacting school operations. The cost of

1:02:38this project is $1,631,900.

1:02:42As noted, we have spent a grand total of

1:02:44$3 million 694,326

1:02:49on these projects, which the county

1:02:51graciously has funded 3.5 so far.

1:02:54Tonight, we are seeking the additional

1:02:564.667

1:02:58million uh to continue the work on the

1:03:00next phase of kitchens and gyms. Despite

1:03:03recent administrative changes elsewhere,

1:03:05Davidson County Schools remain steadfast

1:03:07in sticking to the plan established in

1:03:09August of 2025.

1:03:11DCS is fully committed to staying the

1:03:13course, seeing these projects through to

1:03:15completion, and responsibly utilizing

1:03:18our tier 1, 2, and three capital budget

1:03:20allocations that you give us to maintain

1:03:23and repair existing HVAC infrastructure

1:03:26as well as other major operational and

1:03:28maintenance task. Once we have completed

1:03:31all of the major projects in this fiscal

1:03:33year and into the coming fiscal years,

1:03:36we are excited about how this will help

1:03:38our students and staff. We understand

1:03:40that looking ahead, our ultimate goal

1:03:42will have to transition.

1:03:45Davis County Schools is looking at ways

1:03:47to move from reactive repairs to a

1:03:50proactive preventative maintenance model

1:03:52for all HVAC systems. However, achieving

1:03:55true preventive maintenance requires

1:03:57additional personnel and adequate

1:03:59personnel. Currently, we lack the

1:04:02manpower necessary to sustain that level

1:04:05of ongoing care. And down the road, we

1:04:08will continue to need your support to

1:04:10make this goal a reality.

1:04:12We firmly believe that over the next

1:04:14several years, the strong collaboration

1:04:16between county government and Davis

1:04:19County Schools will help support the

1:04:20physical plan of our facilities and

1:04:23continue to create learning environments

1:04:24in our schools that foster excellence in

1:04:27student achievement. Thank you once

1:04:29again for your unwavering commitment to

1:04:32our schools and to the well-being of our

1:04:34students and staff.

1:04:37>> Any questions?

1:04:39Any questions

1:04:41>> from anybody?

1:04:42>> Okay. Thank you very much.

1:04:44>> Thank y'all.

1:04:44>> Yeah. Thank you.

1:04:48>> So,

1:04:50what's your position on?

1:04:52>> Oh, it's in the plan. It's I just need

1:04:55needs a budget amendment to approve the

1:04:57the appropriation and we have the the

1:04:59project set up. The the budget

1:05:00amendments laid out here in the agenda

1:05:02item.

1:05:03>> So, we're appropriating a 4 million or

1:05:05the whole

1:05:06>> appropriating 8.167. So the three and a

1:05:08half million that he referenced was in

1:05:10the in the capital plan last year. We

1:05:12didn't quite get it appropriated into a

1:05:14project yet. So that's that's going to

1:05:16get appropriated as well with another

1:05:184.667. So the total I ask is

1:05:20>> okay

1:05:21>> 8.167 million which is in in the CIP.

1:05:25>> Okay.

1:05:26>> I make a motion that we approve the

1:05:278.167 million for the needed repairs at

1:05:31the school facilities. And I'd like to

1:05:33also offer I know you've went out there

1:05:36multiple times yourself and fixed

1:05:38problems. I thank you for that for our

1:05:40kids. Thank you.

1:05:41>> So we have a motion. Do I have a second?

1:05:43>> Second.

1:05:44>> I have a second. All in favor say I.

1:05:46>> I.

1:05:48>> Thank you, Dr. SL.

1:05:49>> Thank you for your report.

1:05:52[applause]

1:05:56>> Okay. Miss Hurley, I'll call on her.

1:05:58Davidson Medical Ministries permission

1:06:00to apply for COSUP grant with support

1:06:03letter Sharon is also here with our

1:06:07grant to the sheriff's department.

1:06:09>> Okay.

1:06:13>> Good evening. We're here to ask tonight

1:06:16to apply for a COUP grant and um Sharon

1:06:19Pope has graciously um accepted to help

1:06:23us apply for that grant and so I'd like

1:06:24her to share that information.

1:06:26>> Okay. Good evening. Um the COUP grant uh

1:06:29some of you may be wondering uh again

1:06:31what COP stands for. This is a

1:06:33comprehensive opioid stimul stimulant

1:06:36substance use program. This is a federal

1:06:38grant through the Bureau of Justice

1:06:40Assistance. You may recall u back in the

1:06:42spring we came before you and this board

1:06:45approved uh another grant that is still

1:06:48under deliberations. is called the

1:06:50bridge project with substance misuse uh

1:06:54whether that be opioids, stimulants, any

1:06:57uh drugs within our community. Uh those

1:07:00problems are on a continuum. Uh at any

1:07:03point in that continuum, there is uh

1:07:06issues that result for our communities.

1:07:08This the original bridge project

1:07:11addressed what happens when the person's

1:07:13in jail and they're getting out. Um this

1:07:16project is called before the bridge

1:07:18because that same person that had has

1:07:21end up in jail, his case is adjudicated.

1:07:24There was a point in his or her journey

1:07:27that there were probably multiple uh

1:07:30interactions with law enforcement or

1:07:32other community people. This person may

1:07:34have been homeless. They may have been

1:07:36panhandling. They may have been involved

1:07:38in a fight in front of [clears throat]

1:07:40those kind of things. This grant we hope

1:07:43to basically address the prevention and

1:07:46treatment and recovery and support of

1:07:48this person before they get inside the

1:07:50jail. This could be a general referral

1:07:53in the community. It could be a referral

1:07:55from law enforcement and would serve as

1:07:58a diversion. So instead of taking that

1:08:00person to jail, this would give other

1:08:03options for that working through

1:08:05Davidson Medical Ministries. So, we're

1:08:07here to answer any questions you might

1:08:09have on that and hopefully garner

1:08:10support for this valuable program. This

1:08:13grant does not require any match. So,

1:08:16there is nothing that's to being asked

1:08:18of Davidson County. Um, further, it

1:08:21actually even provides uh indirect cost

1:08:23that helps the county administer this.

1:08:26Uh I'm a very frugal taxpayer and I want

1:08:29to see uh as much assistance brought to

1:08:32the county as possible and uh if there's

1:08:35a way to uh do that uh not on the local

1:08:38taxpayers's dime at the federal level uh

1:08:41I think it's a wonderful idea.

1:08:43>> What's the value of the grant?

1:08:45>> Uh it can be up to 1.3 million.

1:08:48>> Okay.

1:08:49>> Wow.

1:08:51>> Okay. Any questions from anyone?

1:08:55Is that what we're seeking is the 1.3

1:08:57>> the budget? It would be right at that

1:08:59that threshold. Maybe not exactly 1.3,

1:09:02maybe just a hair under. There's still

1:09:03some. We're still It's not due until

1:09:05October 1st. We're still creating that.

1:09:07Yeah.

1:09:08>> You're asking for letters of support.

1:09:10That's all

1:09:11>> a letter of support. And there is a

1:09:12formal letter that the uh grant

1:09:14requires. It's a a formal form. So, it

1:09:17would just be that the county uh

1:09:18supports that because the county is the

1:09:20one accepting the grant. Uh, it has to

1:09:22go it has to go to municipalities. It's

1:09:25not available to nonprofits. Okay.

1:09:28>> You say this is before the jail. So,

1:09:30will you be working closely with law

1:09:32enforcement on

1:09:34biggest problem I've got, not with your

1:09:36what you're doing, but where are you

1:09:38going to put these people?

1:09:40>> This is hopefully a diversion type

1:09:43program that would also incorporate

1:09:45working with uh the judges. There's

1:09:47always been there has been agreements

1:09:48and support written uh from them that

1:09:51they're going to do this in lie of

1:09:53putting them in jail. This these are

1:09:55this is a diversion activity hopefully

1:09:57before they get to that point that we're

1:09:59going to try to reach them on the front

1:10:01end versus the bridge project which

1:10:03addresses it after they're in

1:10:05>> again. Where are you going to put these

1:10:07people?

1:10:10>> Can you explain that? Where as where are

1:10:13you going to put

1:10:13>> you said other than jail. So, what are

1:10:15you what are you going to do with them?

1:10:16>> So, we would connect with them when they

1:10:18say that they're um having substance use

1:10:21issues and they're looking for help. And

1:10:23so, if they can't find some place right

1:10:25here in Davidson County, then we're

1:10:27going to connect them to resources to

1:10:29help them move from crisis to hope to

1:10:32long-term sustainability. So, we have a

1:10:35list of over 14 different places that if

1:10:37someone's looking to get treatment that

1:10:39we can help them to get to that place.

1:10:41And so it's breaking down all the

1:10:43barriers that they say are here so they

1:10:46can get there.

1:10:48>> Yeah. I don't have any problem with

1:10:49that. But I'm just concerned about

1:10:52there's no place to put these people

1:10:55there. I mean you got to send them I got

1:10:57people in Hendersonville

1:11:01because you can't find anywhere local to

1:11:03put them. And so that's for what my

1:11:06concern is. I weren't you going to spend

1:11:07some of that money and trying to prepare

1:11:11a place to put these people, but if

1:11:13you're not going to send them to jail,

1:11:15you're going to send them somewhere. So,

1:11:17what are you going to do with

1:11:18>> So, we'd like to help them to get to a

1:11:20long-term treatment and to get to the

1:11:23appropriate treatment. If they can't get

1:11:25it here locally, then take them to a

1:11:27place where they can get

1:11:28>> that going through court order.

1:11:30>> We'd like to get to them before they get

1:11:32to the court order. And so, um, the

1:11:35opportunity is when people drop off,

1:11:37we'll just say narcotics or scheduled

1:11:39two substances to put them in a, um, a

1:11:42dropbox at our office or in other places

1:11:44we have them in the county. Then we have

1:11:46the opportunity to make a connection

1:11:48then to say here are the resources

1:11:51available to you and to connect them

1:11:54with over 60 partners,

1:11:56>> that information to the person, the

1:11:57individual. And so you depend on a

1:12:00person that's an opioid addict to go

1:12:02find these places.

1:12:04>> No. Once we connect with them, then

1:12:06we're going to walk with them and show

1:12:09them, tell them where they can go. And

1:12:13as much as they'd like us to walk with

1:12:15them, we're going to continue until they

1:12:17get to a place where they're no longer

1:12:19in crisis.

1:12:20>> You know, those people that at that

1:12:21stage are going to need some help. Yes.

1:12:23>> Can't just hand them a letter and say,

1:12:24"Go here." You know, that's not going to

1:12:26work. and you know it's in our health

1:12:28work.

1:12:28>> So we have community health workers and

1:12:30then peer support specialists that we

1:12:32would connect them with to help them to

1:12:34walk alongside them from crisis to hope

1:12:37to long-term sustainability.

1:12:39>> Could you tell me what it cost uh on

1:12:41average to treat somebody?

1:12:45>> It depends on if they're going to a

1:12:4628-day program or if they're going to a

1:12:49two-year program. And it depends. I

1:12:51mean, frankly, it depends on what level

1:12:54of care and if they're working with them

1:12:56to get to a job, if they've already

1:12:58detoxed, it depends on what space

1:13:00they're in. We know that for a 28-day

1:13:02program, traditionally, it costs right

1:13:04around $30,000.

1:13:06>> Okay. For a two-year program,

1:13:09>> well, a lot of the two-year programs

1:13:11that we are seeing the people that we're

1:13:13serving going to are work program. And

1:13:16so they start 60 days without working.

1:13:20They start in programs and then they pay

1:13:22for their program the rest of the time.

1:13:24>> So what is a 60-day program?

1:13:27>> Right around

1:13:29I believe it's right around $47,000.

1:13:31>> 47.

1:13:33>> So about a,000 bucks a day. I guess kind

1:13:37of sounds like the average on what time

1:13:39they spent. Okay. Thank you very much.

1:13:41>> I'd just like to tell you I think this

1:13:43is a no-brainer. I think anything that

1:13:45would not require a county match and any

1:13:48any organization that can bring money

1:13:51into our county to fight abuse and and

1:13:54can give people a chance to stay out of

1:13:56jail and to making new life for

1:13:58themselves, we need to be doing. I

1:14:00commend both of y'all for coming before

1:14:01us and doing that. And I think it's a

1:14:03no-brainer and you have my support.

1:14:07>> Any other comments?

1:14:09>> Let's hope it's we get very positive

1:14:11results. Is there the possibility for

1:14:13any kind of renewal or is it like a lump

1:14:16sum one time only? [clears throat]

1:14:18>> This is a three-year grant. So, the uh

1:14:20the process of this would be three

1:14:22years. The great thing and the thing

1:14:24we're really going to be um hoping for

1:14:27is that both of the grants would get

1:14:29approved so that we could have sort of a

1:14:31dual approach, a double-headed spear, so

1:14:34to speak, to do that. That both of those

1:14:36are uh within three years. Uh COUP does

1:14:39offer renewal grants. We just can't say

1:14:42we're doing the exact same thing. We

1:14:43would have to be innovative and expand

1:14:45uh create a program that walks in lock

1:14:48step with it, but has has different uh

1:14:50goals and objectives in the future.

1:14:52>> Well, and I'll echo Commissioner Elliot,

1:14:54you you have my support on this as well.

1:14:57>> Do we need to go ahead and make a motion

1:14:58to

1:14:59>> I got one other question, please. One

1:15:01point. It's a three-year grant. Is that

1:15:031.3 million per year or is this for the

1:15:05total?

1:15:06>> Yeah.

1:15:07>> Okay.

1:15:10Any other questions?

1:15:12>> All right. I think I'm I think we're

1:15:13ready for a motion.

1:15:14>> Make a motion we get them the letter

1:15:16they need to proceed with the grant.

1:15:18>> Do I have a second?

1:15:20>> I'll second.

1:15:20>> Okay. All in favor say I.

1:15:22>> I.

1:15:22>> I.

1:15:25>> Thank y'all.

1:15:26>> I'll let you know when I've got it

1:15:27ready. [clears throat and cough]

1:15:33>> All right. Next, we have an appointment

1:15:35to the board of adjustment. Mr. Rickard

1:15:37and [snorts] Mr. Jones.

1:15:39>> Madam Chair, um if you've got your

1:15:43agenda item on August 10th, you

1:15:44appointed Christian Jones as an

1:15:46alternate to the board of adjustment.

1:15:49Uh he is we've determined he can't serve

1:15:52on both boards. So we need an individual

1:15:54or uh to serve as an alternate on the

1:15:56board of adjustment.

1:15:58>> That's the two applicants we have on our

1:16:01>> We have Doug Hunt and Bobby.

1:16:04>> Yeah. Great.

1:16:06I'm not sure.

1:16:10Do any of you all know this gentleman?

1:16:12And Doug?

1:16:13>> I don't know either one. Doug. Huh?

1:16:15>> Yeah, we know Doug.

1:16:17>> Doug serves on the DSS.

1:16:18>> DSS board.

1:16:19>> DSS board. You like Doug?

1:16:21>> I do.

1:16:22>> Mhm.

1:16:23>> I'll make a motion we approve Doug.

1:16:24>> Second.

1:16:25>> Okay. Have a motion, a second. All in

1:16:27favor say I.

1:16:28>> I.

1:16:28>> Thank you very much.

1:16:32>> All right. We'll begin the public

1:16:34hearing. Here comes Mr. Crook.

1:16:49Welcome back.

1:16:54The first one's been withdrawn.

1:16:55>> Mhm.

1:16:56>> While he's getting ready, I'll go ahead

1:16:58and The reasoning request for number A

1:17:01has been withdrawn. So, there's nothing

1:17:04to hear there. So, we're going to move

1:17:06on to item B. Uh, while he gets ready.

1:17:10>> I'm ready when you are, Madam Chair.

1:17:11>> Okay.

1:17:12>> All right. Um, thank you. Good

1:17:15afternoon, Madam Chair, fellow

1:17:16commissioners. Um, our first resoning

1:17:19item of the night is a request by

1:17:21Deborah B. Lewis to reszone property

1:17:23located in Abs Creek Township, tax map

1:17:2616, lots 3C, and a portion of lot three

1:17:29containing 1 acre, more or less. said

1:17:31property is located on the west on

1:17:33excuse me on the north claudefelter road

1:17:35approximately 045 miles north of the

1:17:38from the Willie Boingheimer road uh

1:17:40intersection reszoning is requested to

1:17:42change from that of CZRC conditional

1:17:44zoning rural commercial to that of RA3

1:17:47rural agricultural district if the board

1:17:49will recall about a year ago um

1:17:53Mrs. Lewis's husband came before the

1:17:56board and successfully reszoned the

1:18:00property highlighted in yellow. If you

1:18:01please divert your attention to the uh

1:18:03overhead for a small automotive sales

1:18:07lot.

1:18:08>> And apparently that that has not panned

1:18:11out. And now they hope to reszone it

1:18:13back to RA3 for agricultural purposes.

1:18:16Um Miss Lewis is uh in the audience and

1:18:20um I'll let her explain the rest of her

1:18:22application. going back down.

1:18:24>> Thank you, love.

1:18:29>> Hey, I'm Debbie Lewis. Um, like you

1:18:31said,

1:18:32>> you want to open the public hearing?

1:18:33>> Yes, let me open the public hearing,

1:18:35please. No, you [clears throat] can

1:18:36tell.

1:18:37>> Okay. Um, like you said, the car lot

1:18:40didn't go very far. Waste of time. But

1:18:43anyway, uh, so I would just want it to

1:18:45return back into the original 44 acres,

1:18:49I think it was. That 44 acres has been

1:18:52in my home as farmland for over a

1:18:56hundred years.

1:18:57>> Okay.

1:18:58>> Okay.

1:19:00Any questions by the board?

1:19:01>> I don't have any.

1:19:03>> I think this is

1:19:04>> I think

1:19:05>> I think this is great. Is there anyone

1:19:08in the audience who wishes to speak

1:19:10either in favor of or opposition to this

1:19:12request?

1:19:15>> Hearing none. I think I can declare the

1:19:18public hearing closed. Yes, ma'am.

1:19:20>> Mr. Crook, what is your recommendation?

1:19:22>> Uh staff's going to support the the uh

1:19:24application citing contiguous uh the

1:19:28fact that the properties contiguous on

1:19:30all sides to RA3, which uh complies with

1:19:33article 7, administration of our zoning

1:19:35regulations. And I'd like to site

1:19:37policies 116, 5.1, 53, 54, 555, 56, 57,

1:19:4258, 510, and 73 of our adopted land

1:19:46development plan, which will support the

1:19:49applications. staff would recommend

1:19:50approval.

1:19:51>> Okay.

1:19:52>> Motion to approve.

1:19:53>> I've got a motion

1:19:54>> on statement of consistency and I second

1:19:56that. Amen. [laughter]

1:19:57>> Thank you, gentlemen. I have a motion

1:19:59and a second. All in favor say I.

1:20:01>> I.

1:20:02>> Thank you.

1:20:03>> Thank you.

1:20:04>> Congratulations.

1:20:06>> All right. Item [clears throat] number C

1:20:09is reszoning request. Mr. Crook.

1:20:11>> Thank you.

1:20:12>> Before Before you get started, I want to

1:20:14discuss something with uh our county

1:20:17attorney here. Uh my business does some

1:20:21business with group 21.

1:20:23>> Okay.

1:20:24>> Uh I just want to make that known to the

1:20:26public. I don't have any financial

1:20:28interest

1:20:29in this particular zoning.

1:20:32Um I do serve on the airport uh board

1:20:35with uh Mr. Cochran.

1:20:38That has no direct conflict with this u

1:20:43zoning request.

1:20:45Uh just to give my fellow board members

1:20:48an example of how much business maybe I

1:20:51do with Mr. Cochran, we probably do the

1:20:54equivalent of maybe 20 loads of stone a

1:20:57year.

1:20:58Uh and I haul about 20 to 40 loads of

1:21:01stone a day in asphalt in my business.

1:21:04So I think I had my girl to pull it up

1:21:06today and we've hauled the equivalent of

1:21:09like 20 loads of stone.

1:21:11I want to get your opinion on the

1:21:13recusal because we have a duty up here

1:21:15to do

1:21:16>> as a voting member. But so

1:21:20>> Sure. Yes. Um so this is governed

1:21:24recusal for zoning matters is governed

1:21:28under the um North Carolina general

1:21:31statute 160D-109A

1:21:35and recusal

1:21:37um is appropriate um if the board member

1:21:43has a close familiar familial like being

1:21:46related

1:21:48business or other associational

1:21:50relationship. ship um with the the party

1:21:53making the application.

1:21:55Um

1:21:57so it's

1:22:00in in this in this matter I I mean it's

1:22:02would be up to the board to decide

1:22:05whether whether

1:22:08[clears throat] Mr. Yates's

1:22:10um business relationship as he's relayed

1:22:14um you know has would would rise to the

1:22:17level of a close business relationship

1:22:21um that would that would require

1:22:24recusal.

1:22:25>> What's your legal opinion?

1:22:27>> Um because it well Mr. I I guess I'm

1:22:32going to ask you is it is is there any

1:22:36do you have any expectation that this is

1:22:38that that if this is approved that

1:22:40you're going to be doing any of the work

1:22:42on this part on this particular project

1:22:44or or the other project that's going to

1:22:46be heard in just a minute.

1:22:48>> I don't know anything about either one

1:22:49of these projects. So um Mr. Cochran

1:22:52does his own grading from my

1:22:54understanding.

1:22:56Um so we wouldn't be doing any grading.

1:22:59We haven't done any grading for him in

1:23:00the past. Uh I know him for for years.

1:23:04Okay. Like I know a lot of people for

1:23:06years in this county. So

1:23:07>> Okay.

1:23:08>> But no, I have no intentions of doing

1:23:10any work for it on it or any of them. So

1:23:14>> Okay. Either either this project or the

1:23:17next one that we'll be hearing. So, so

1:23:19it doesn't, you know, this does not

1:23:20sound like the kind of direct and

1:23:23substantial, you know, financial impact

1:23:26that would require recusal. I mean,

1:23:29that's I I read that the um I read the

1:23:33the uh the standard

1:23:36um that it would be a a close familial

1:23:40business or other relationship that

1:23:42would be appropriate for recusal. And so

1:23:46it would if um you know I I would

1:23:50recommend that the the board um

1:23:55go ahead and vote on on whether on on

1:23:57whether based on that standard Mr. Yates

1:24:00should be recused from this vote and

1:24:02this vote and the next one.

1:24:04>> Yeah.

1:24:04>> So here can I make a point to you and

1:24:07tell me because

1:24:08>> I don't want to get caught up in

1:24:10anything. If you increase the the zoning

1:24:13from RA3, RA 1, RA2 to commercial, does

1:24:19not that also increase his ability to

1:24:23improve his business?

1:24:26>> Yes.

1:24:26>> Excuse me.

1:24:30>> I don't think I I don't think I

1:24:31understood. Are you talking about

1:24:33>> can he not

1:24:35elevate the level of business he does

1:24:38under commercials?

1:24:40Well, yeah. I mean, if so, if this I

1:24:42mean, if the reasoning is granted, then

1:24:44then he would be able to do

1:24:46>> more

1:24:47>> more on the property. Yes. I mean,

1:24:49>> he's and if Commissioner Yates is

1:24:51selling if you're selling him gravel, I

1:24:53I recuse myself. I'm I would

1:24:58>> I mean, that's fine with me, but I'm

1:25:00saying I have no direct benefit to this

1:25:02job or any other job, you know.

1:25:04>> But I thought you sold him every year.

1:25:07No, I said I sold him probably

1:25:09equivalent of 20 loads this year, but it

1:25:11could be I mean

1:25:13>> Oh, you don't you're not on continuous

1:25:16>> He's got his He's got he's got his own

1:25:18dump trucks and every now and then he'll

1:25:20call. So, I guess

1:25:22I in a in a reference I haul 30 or 40

1:25:25loads of asphalt and rock a day. So, you

1:25:28know, I have multiple people out here in

1:25:30this county that may call and get five

1:25:32loads of rock or

1:25:33>> 10 loads and

1:25:35>> here and there. Well, I was wanting a a

1:25:37legal representation of that because you

1:25:39know this isn't trivial like that they

1:25:42commissioners could recuse themselves of

1:25:44voting on unpopular things all the time

1:25:47just to say facing the community but it

1:25:49is a requirement that you vote on things

1:25:52that you have to vote on that you are

1:25:54not legally recused of. So that's why I

1:25:56wanted the illegal opinion before we

1:25:59vote on this because legally he is

1:26:01required to vote on things that is not

1:26:04up to a legal recusal. So right that's

1:26:07why we need the legal opinion as a

1:26:09board.

1:26:10>> How do you feel?

1:26:11>> Well, that's so that's that's correct.

1:26:13So if there's I mean you're you're all

1:26:15required to vote on any business that

1:26:17comes up.

1:26:17>> Yes. um unless unless there's you know

1:26:20an impermissible interest that's stated

1:26:23in the statute and one of that you know

1:26:26one of those is the one I just read. Um

1:26:29you know as I said I don't this this

1:26:32does not seem to be the the kind of

1:26:34direct and substantial you know

1:26:38financial interest in this in this

1:26:40particular

1:26:42matter that's before the board that

1:26:44would um that would require recusal. I

1:26:47mean, but that's I you know, this is

1:26:50this is something that there there's

1:26:52very little case law on on,

1:26:54you know, where I I can't throw you an

1:26:56example and say, "Oh, this happened, you

1:26:58know, this happened 10 other times and

1:27:00and this is how it worked out." It just

1:27:01there's just not that kind of case law.

1:27:04So,

1:27:04>> I mean, you you have to just apply that

1:27:07the standard from the

1:27:09>> Okay.

1:27:09>> And and you know, and and um you know,

1:27:12and decide whether you think recusal is

1:27:14required or not. That's why I wanted

1:27:16legal opinion. Okay. Because

1:27:18>> That's right.

1:27:18>> I' I've been hailed to vote for things

1:27:20before just like just like this, you

1:27:22know? I mean, because I mean I my

1:27:24family's lived in this county since

1:27:261820. So, we do business for people in

1:27:28this county.

1:27:29>> Just to explain what my question was.

1:27:32Initially, I misunderstood

1:27:35what he if I correct me if I'm wrong,

1:27:37Commissioner, he done a prior sale.

1:27:41>> It's not anything as continuous or

1:27:43ongoing. So, I think I I withdraw my

1:27:46request for them.

1:27:47>> Again, I want to explain it. It's not

1:27:48like I do grading for them on every

1:27:50project they do or any project they do.

1:27:52I've never done any grading on any

1:27:54project. So, uh we're in the grading

1:27:56business. We're in the paving business.

1:27:57I've never paved a project for this

1:27:59gentleman. So, I just want y'all to know

1:28:02so y'all can decide whatever you want.

1:28:04But, uh

1:28:06>> there's no standing contract.

1:28:07>> No,

1:28:10>> I misunderstood. I thought he had a

1:28:12normal one.

1:28:12>> No.

1:28:13>> Any other questions? Anybody from

1:28:15anybody?

1:28:16>> Madam Chair,

1:28:16>> so y'all y'all do as y'all see fit.

1:28:18>> Do you have any questions?

1:28:19>> I don't.

1:28:20>> Okay. So, are are we okay with allowing

1:28:25>> Can you can you just vote Can I Can I

1:28:27just get a motion?

1:28:28>> I have a motion. Do I have a motion on

1:28:29whether whether [clears throat] to

1:28:31recuse

1:28:32>> to recuse him or or or not?

1:28:34>> Right.

1:28:35>> Okay. So, do I have a motion?

1:28:37>> Hold on. Are you wanting to be recused

1:28:40or you're not wanting to be recused that

1:28:43>> I want to follow the law whatever the

1:28:45law is. So

1:28:46>> I was just curious where where your

1:28:48feelings were on that too.

1:28:49>> I want again I I've voted for a lot of

1:28:52things

1:28:53>> in the past. I would love to been

1:28:55recused of but I have an obligation up

1:28:57here to vote

1:28:58>> on it. So

1:28:59>> now I think you do now.

1:29:00>> Right. So again I have no financial

1:29:02interest in this project or this project

1:29:05the other. So

1:29:07>> our vote to explain this is he is

1:29:09required to vote

1:29:11>> not a choice to recuse himself. If

1:29:14there's no legal president to deny him

1:29:16from voting, you are required to vote.

1:29:18And I think if you cannot provide that,

1:29:20then our vote has to be yes to let him

1:29:22vote because he is required.

1:29:26>> Mr. Sh, do you have a question?

1:29:28>> No, I'm good.

1:29:29>> You're good, everybody. Okay. Okay. So,

1:29:32we're we're seeking a motion

1:29:33>> motion to allow Commissioner Yates to

1:29:36vote on this zoning report.

1:29:38>> I have a motion to approve

1:29:39>> I would say on this this one and the

1:29:40next

1:29:41>> and the next one. Yeah. And the next

1:29:42one.

1:29:43>> Yeah.

1:29:43>> I would just add to the minutes per the

1:29:45attorney's explanation of the law. He's

1:29:48required to vote and and I'll second

1:29:50that.

1:29:50>> Okay. So, we have a a motion and a

1:29:53second. All in favor say I.

1:29:54>> I. I.

1:29:57>> Opposed.

1:29:57>> I recuse myself from that vote. Okay.

1:30:00[laughter]

1:30:02Okay. So,

1:30:06>> who's talking out there?

1:30:08>> I I don't know. There seems to be

1:30:11>> quite I don't think they really

1:30:12understand the law, but we

1:30:15>> Erin, would you consider, you know,

1:30:18making giving them the eye or something

1:30:20to, you know, we're we're trying to

1:30:23carry out business. It's

1:30:26this is not this is not a place for you

1:30:29to be talking during our business. Okay.

1:30:32>> Well, and for for just for context, too,

1:30:34it it'd be different if there was an

1:30:37ongoing contract that he had with this

1:30:40company.

1:30:40>> Amen.

1:30:41>> There's previous work that had been

1:30:43done. So, there's I don't think any

1:30:45precedent where he should recuse

1:30:47himself. That's the standard that we

1:30:49used.

1:30:50>> Amen.

1:30:51>> Okay.

1:30:53>> All right. So, I think we're ready, Mr.

1:30:55Group.

1:30:55>> All right. Thank you.

1:30:56>> Are we ready? [clears throat]

1:30:57>> I think we're ready.

1:30:58>> Okay. [laughter]

1:30:59>> I declare Well, um, you introduce and

1:31:01then I'll declare the public hearing.

1:31:03>> Our our second request of the night is

1:31:04by Group 21 LLC to reszone property

1:31:07located in Cotton Grove Township, tax

1:31:10map 13, lot 26, containing 7.33 acres

1:31:14more or less. said property is located

1:31:16on the north side of Belmont Road

1:31:19approximately 8,500s of a mile west of

1:31:21the Lynwood Southmont Road intersection.

1:31:24Reszoning is requested to change from

1:31:26that of RA1 and RA2 rural agricultural

1:31:29districts to that of CZRC

1:31:32conditional zoning rural commercial

1:31:34district. If you would briefly divert

1:31:36your attention to the overhead to get

1:31:38you acclimated with where this property

1:31:40is located. This this is Belmont Road.

1:31:42These are the eastern lots of the I85

1:31:45corporate center. Edgars is just off the

1:31:47map to the left. Um the property

1:31:51highlighted in yellow is the property in

1:31:53question tonight. If you move off to the

1:31:55east, then you've got Lynwood Southmont

1:31:58Road just off the map on this side. Um

1:32:01this application is represented by

1:32:03attorney Leedra Matthews. And uh once

1:32:06Madame Chair opens the public hearing,

1:32:09invite her up to explain the

1:32:10application. I declare the public

1:32:12hearing open. Will the representative

1:32:14come forward and explain the request?

1:32:16>> While she's walking up with Lee, will

1:32:18you show me uh where Edgar's at?

1:32:21>> Edgar is just if like

1:32:24right here is the roundabout

1:32:28>> just to the west of this and Edgar would

1:32:30kind of be

1:32:32just the same.

1:32:34>> Pardon? [clears throat]

1:32:34>> Same side.

1:32:35>> It's on the opposite side of the road.

1:32:36Yes, sir. It's on the It's on the north

1:32:38side of Belmont Road where Edgar and the

1:32:40corporate centers to the south.

1:32:44>> We're ready. Go ahead.

1:32:48>> Good evening, chair and commissioners.

1:32:51>> My name is Ludra Matthews. I am an

1:32:53associate attorney with Box Rosschild

1:32:55office address 101 South Triion Street

1:32:59in Charlotte, North Carolina. Again, I'm

1:33:01here on behalf of the applicant group

1:33:0321. Jonathan Cochran is also here on

1:33:06behalf of group 21 to answer any

1:33:08questions you might have after our brief

1:33:11uh presentation.

1:33:28[clears throat]

1:33:30[sighs]

1:33:32>> Mr. Crypt did a great job of um

1:33:35explaining the request overview. So I'll

1:33:37try to be brief. Uh the parcel is um a

1:33:42split jur a split jurisdiction, not

1:33:44jurisdiction, split zoning, RA1 and RA2

1:33:47towards the back of the property or

1:33:49towards the east. We're asking for

1:33:50conditional zoning um residential

1:33:53commercial. It's about a little under an

1:33:548 acre property to allow for the

1:33:57construction and use of a self storage

1:33:59facility.

1:34:04These are the parcels. This is a a

1:34:06screenshot of the zoning map. As you can

1:34:09see, the blue and red um on your screen

1:34:12uh shows you residential zoning. Um you

1:34:16also have that red um that shows some of

1:34:20your heavy industrial and um even more

1:34:23residential commercial in the area. And

1:34:25I had this slide up just to show you

1:34:27that it is a largely residential area,

1:34:29but there is several there are several

1:34:31industrial and commercial uses and they

1:34:33all um operate in harmony in this area.

1:34:36And I think that that mix of uses uh is

1:34:39well I know that that mix of uses is due

1:34:41to proximity to Highway 85, Highway 47.

1:34:46uh self- storage would allow um an added

1:34:49service to these surrounding residential

1:34:51uses, but for reasons that I will um

1:34:54explain in just a few slides, it's more

1:34:57it's compatible with this area um and at

1:35:00a an appropriate intensity.

1:35:04Here's another slide. This is an aerial

1:35:06that shows you some of those surrounding

1:35:08areas Mr. Crook Croh pointed out. Um,

1:35:11our site is shown here with that yellow

1:35:14star and around you see to the south we

1:35:17have Norfolk Southern. You also have um,

1:35:20Edgar as Mr. Crook pointed out as well

1:35:22as the I85 corporate center to name a

1:35:25few.

1:35:32This is a concept map. You'll see the uh

1:35:35warning there or um caveat qualification

1:35:38that this is conceptual in nature

1:35:41intended to illustrate the plan for uh

1:35:44this area but is not offered as a

1:35:47condition. The site plan or the

1:35:48condition concept plan itself is not

1:35:50offered as a condition. Um but you see

1:35:52the idea or vision that group 21 has a

1:35:56series of about five buildings laid out

1:35:5824 ft drive aisles in between each

1:36:02building. You'll see towards the uh

1:36:04southern portion um areas designated for

1:36:07Amazon parcel. Um I think those might be

1:36:10lockers or pickup for Amazon parcels as

1:36:14well as a ice and vending machine.

1:36:16Again, this site plan is not um set in

1:36:20stone and the applicant has included

1:36:22these uses, specifically the Amazon

1:36:24parcel and the ice vending machine

1:36:26because if they are not um presented to

1:36:29you during the resoning and we were to

1:36:31add them later, we would have to come

1:36:33through the process again.

1:36:37Also, there will be gated access here

1:36:39and all of the storage uh storage

1:36:41buildings are singlestory.

1:36:50This is a rendering of what the

1:36:52buildings will look like from Belmont

1:36:54Road. Again, uh it's to depict the

1:36:57elevations or the division now, but this

1:36:59is again not a uh condition

1:37:03offered with the application

1:37:08following the planning board meeting or

1:37:10at during the planning board meeting. an

1:37:12additional condition um was profered due

1:37:16to planning board comments and concerns

1:37:18or feedback um and that is um about the

1:37:22lighting in the area. Again, it does it

1:37:24is adjacent to a residential area and

1:37:27planning board members were concerned

1:37:29about light pollution on Belmont Avenue

1:37:32as well as to uh nearby residents

1:37:35residences. So, this is the um the

1:37:38language that we have worked with

1:37:39planning staff um to mitigate the the

1:37:43light impact.

1:37:46I'll leave it there for a second so you

1:37:47can read it and I won't be reading it to

1:37:49you, but

1:37:53the lighting will comply with NC DOT and

1:37:56North Carolina state building code. Um

1:37:58but where possible and adjacent to the

1:38:00roads or adjacent to the road or

1:38:02residential properties there will be

1:38:05house side shields equivalent shielding

1:38:07to again mitigate that pollution.

1:38:16These are the various factors um

1:38:18mandated by North Carolina statute 160D

1:38:22as well as your zoning ordinance. the

1:38:25specific factors you are to consider

1:38:26when considering a resoning. So, I'll

1:38:29take each of those in turn briefly. So,

1:38:32with regard to size and physical

1:38:33location, this site was um evaluated by

1:38:38a professional and found that there were

1:38:41no suitable soil in the area um in order

1:38:44to perk or to support a conventional

1:38:46septic system uh needed for residential

1:38:49development. Again, this is a

1:38:50residential existing residential zoned.

1:38:53Um, but it will not perk for residential

1:38:55use.

1:38:59With regard to number two, the impacts

1:39:02on neighbors and the surrounding

1:39:03community. As I've alluded to, it's a

1:39:05low impact commercial use. It doesn't

1:39:08generate much if at all traffic noise um

1:39:11in places virtually no burden on public

1:39:13services. Um, we'll use very little

1:39:16water here. And Mr. Cochran can talk to

1:39:19you about the specific water usage on

1:39:22the site. Um but it will not constrain

1:39:25or add um add more impact to the traffic

1:39:29in the area.

1:39:32On the other hand, it is self- storage

1:39:33and we did see that map of residential

1:39:35residential uses in the area and is

1:39:37adding a service to those um to the

1:39:40residential areas in the community. With

1:39:43regard to number three, permitted versus

1:39:45requested uses. Again, we're talking

1:39:47about what not only was permitted, but

1:39:48was practical. Again, the the soil did

1:39:51not perk, so it's not suitable for uses

1:39:53in the residentially zoned district.

1:39:57With regard to factor number four,

1:39:58public interest, we talked about the the

1:40:01potential benefit of a self storage in a

1:40:03in this area. Um, and on the other hand,

1:40:06well, I'll stay here for a minute and

1:40:08talk about the public interest. It would

1:40:10also be providing infill development in

1:40:12an otherwise underutilized tract. Um the

1:40:15tract is currently vacant and again we

1:40:17know it cannot be used for residential

1:40:19use that it is um existingly zoned for.

1:40:23And number five, change conditions. I

1:40:25won't spend too much time on there. I'm

1:40:26preaching to the choir. Thanks to your

1:40:28efforts and the county efforts, there

1:40:30has been a significant industrial boom.

1:40:32People are coming to Davidson County um

1:40:35at unprecedented unprecedented rates.

1:40:38Um, and this is a unique um, resoning

1:40:42that again will have very minimal

1:40:44impact, very minimal strain if at all on

1:40:47existing infrastructure. Um, but make

1:40:49good use of of the property um, at again

1:40:53a low intensity that will be in harmony

1:40:56with the the surrounding uses.

1:41:05You and I know that you do plan for the

1:41:07future and one of the pieces of evidence

1:41:10of that planning for the future is the

1:41:11Davidson County Land Development Plan.

1:41:14Um the plan promotes orderly growth and

1:41:16the coordination of land uses with

1:41:18existing infrastructure.

1:41:20We've talked about the location of the

1:41:22site. It sits near Interstate 85. It is

1:41:24bordered to the south by Northick

1:41:26Southern Railroad surrounded by that mix

1:41:29of vacant farmland and further east

1:41:31chemical and manufacturing operations

1:41:33that we pointed out.

1:41:37we be locating a quiet low impact

1:41:39commercial use like self- storage and a

1:41:41transitional area. So you see towards if

1:41:43you look at this map that is also from

1:41:45the development plan and I don't know if

1:41:47you're able to to see the colors too

1:41:49well but again our site is shown by the

1:41:52yellow star

1:41:55clo uh further north you have more

1:41:57intense uses um and they slow down a

1:41:59little bit or at least in this area in a

1:42:01residential area. So, we think that self

1:42:03storage strikes a good balance and

1:42:04serves as a transitional area from the

1:42:07heavier, more industrial uses to the

1:42:09south. Um, and it's also, as noted on

1:42:12here, this is an approximate location.

1:42:15So I can't say with 100% confidence that

1:42:17the site is actually within the

1:42:19commercial and industrial center but

1:42:21based on my eyeball of the site plan or

1:42:24of this map and the site it is there if

1:42:29not in close proximity to a commercial

1:42:31industrial um corridor.

1:42:34You also have several um policies from

1:42:38the economic development portion of the

1:42:40land development plan uh that would

1:42:42support this resoning. Those are listed

1:42:45there. Mr. Crook um and staff do a great

1:42:48job of compiling those for you and he'll

1:42:50read those to you later. So again, I

1:42:52will not bore you with reading from the

1:42:53the slide.

1:42:57[clears throat]

1:43:02This was uh the reszoning request uh

1:43:05received a recommendation of approval

1:43:07from planning board uh support from

1:43:09planning staff and so this evening we're

1:43:11asking for uh a vote to approve it.

1:43:13We're happy to answer any questions that

1:43:15you have.

1:43:17>> Any questions?

1:43:18>> Madam Chair, I don't have a question

1:43:19necessarily for y'all, but for Mr.

1:43:21Crook, uh, this past the this this

1:43:25passed the board by 50 at the planning

1:43:27board meeting. Nobody spoke with it. I

1:43:30know there was an extensive talk in the

1:43:31lighting and y'all handled that. I'd

1:43:33just like to give a shout out to the

1:43:35planning board for that. And I would

1:43:36also like to give a shout out to y'all

1:43:38for handling those lighting discussions

1:43:40prior to you coming before us. I was

1:43:43reading the notes and I appreciate your

1:43:44willingness to address those. That's all

1:43:47I had, madam chair.

1:43:48>> Thank you.

1:43:48>> Thanks, sir.

1:43:49>> Anyone else?

1:43:50>> Two questions. One, uh, Lee, based on

1:43:54that map, and I I would agree it looked

1:43:56like the star the location is in the

1:43:58commercial and industrial center. Can

1:44:00you verify that?

1:44:01>> I I can uh that that's actually not the

1:44:06right location. Yeah, if we can if we

1:44:08can go back to my PowerPoint show,

1:44:10that's actually in the Carolina corridor

1:44:12now site. So, um,

1:44:15>> didn't do a great job eyeballing.

1:44:17>> No, that Yeah, it our our and and to

1:44:20Miss Matthews defense, our our land

1:44:22development plan is not a parcel

1:44:24specific plan. It identifies features

1:44:26and if the requested application is

1:44:29within the influence of that feature,

1:44:32you have to make a judgment call as to

1:44:33whether it's subject to the feature like

1:44:35the I 8564 intersection. If it's within

1:44:38a certain distance of that, you know,

1:44:41our plan says it should probably be

1:44:43commercial. So, it's it's not parcel

1:44:45specific, but um

1:44:47>> with uh go on one more, please keep

1:44:51going. Keep going. Right there. Right

1:44:54there. This um this this is actually

1:44:57that big yellow area is actually where

1:45:00the property is located. And if I can

1:45:03reach in my pocket and get my

1:45:05dump everything out on the We've got

1:45:08Belmont Road right here. The Edgars is

1:45:11located right here. The site's right

1:45:12there. So this whole area is cited in a

1:45:17industrial development corridor. So to

1:45:20answer your first question, that that's

1:45:22accurate. Okay. Thank you.

1:45:24Where's our box site at compared? We got

1:45:27a box site out there as well.

1:45:28>> The the box site is a little bit to the

1:45:31U. If we can go backwards. Um I don't

1:45:33have the

1:45:35>> Can we go back a slide or two? Because

1:45:37it's actually on the zoning map.

1:45:41>> Go back one right there. Box sightes

1:45:44right there.

1:45:44>> Okay.

1:45:47>> Seen the box site out there at our

1:45:49industrial park.

1:45:51There's a little small business located

1:45:53right here. There's our box site. These

1:45:55are both parcels that are part of the

1:45:57I85 corporate center.

1:45:59>> I think there's a new trucking company

1:46:00coming right there in one of those.

1:46:02Right. Right there.

1:46:03>> Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

1:46:05>> That track right there is also owned by

1:46:06Davidson County. I don't know if that

1:46:08was part of the

1:46:09>> It owned by Davidson County. It's zon

1:46:11residential, but it was on the initial

1:46:14purchase for the corporate center, but

1:46:16it hasn't been reszoned.

1:46:21Okay. If there are no other questions,

1:46:24um, is there anyone in the audience uh

1:46:27who wishes to speak either in favor of

1:46:30or in opposition to this request?

1:46:35>> And Chair Wer, I'm sorry. Before we are

1:46:37seated, I just um would ask for a

1:46:40reservation of brief rebuttal time to

1:46:42address any concerns or feedback brought

1:46:44up during the public hearing. Thank you.

1:46:51Can Can these questions be Can

1:46:54>> please come forward.

1:46:55>> Yeah, come on up.

1:46:59>> Is she in adjacent land?

1:47:00>> Another thing that's happening around my

1:47:02house. Um, your name?

1:47:04>> Oh, my name's Jessica Bruff. And um, the

1:47:08lighting, is it going to be LED or is it

1:47:10going to be soft lighting?

1:47:15>> Can you tell us where you live here

1:47:17compared? Well, I live a little bit more

1:47:18on Oldwood Road, but we travel this area

1:47:21and with Carolina corridor coming and

1:47:24you guys are fixing to plow down a whole

1:47:27mess of woods. This is yet another spot

1:47:30that's going to be paved and more

1:47:33animals are going to be dispersed into

1:47:35our neighborhoods. So, it's kind of, you

1:47:39know, there's that factor, too. Um,

1:47:42>> so you don't live adjacent to this? I

1:47:43don't live adjacent to it, but I live in

1:47:45this area. And there's a lot of people I

1:47:47know that live in this area. Um, but so

1:47:51whenever all these trees start getting

1:47:52tear down and everything else that's

1:47:55going to happen, the skunks are going to

1:47:57start coming out, the foxes are going to

1:47:59start coming out, the deer start to come

1:48:00out, and they're all in our yards, and

1:48:03they're all missing out places to go.

1:48:06But I was just asking about the

1:48:07lighting. That's that's really is it

1:48:10going to be soft lighting or LED?

1:48:12We're going to comply with the energy

1:48:14code, our electrical engineer that

1:48:16designed it if there is without

1:48:18>> because the soft lighting would help

1:48:19with the animals.

1:48:22>> Okay,

1:48:23>> that's I mean it's just kind of I mean

1:48:25we're fixing to get bombarded with a

1:48:27industrial site in in our front yards

1:48:30and then this is another thing that's

1:48:32going to be plowed down for more animals

1:48:35to not have a place to go.

1:48:38>> It's going to be tearing down.

1:48:39>> It's just the soft lighting would

1:48:41actually help. It's a I can discuss it

1:48:43with you after this, but it's that would

1:48:45help.

1:48:46>> And just just think about the wildlife

1:48:49and when you're doing this when you put

1:48:51the plants and things up. I know

1:48:53>> use natural plants for like the

1:48:55butterflies and the other animals in

1:48:58this area because we're fixing to really

1:49:01decimate a whole lot of wildlife and

1:49:04their natural habitats in the next 10

1:49:06years

1:49:08>> for profit.

1:49:09>> For profit. I mean, just I we can I I

1:49:13can I can give you my phone number. We

1:49:15can just discuss some stuff, but this is

1:49:17I mean, I know this is something small.

1:49:19This is a storage unit. It's when we got

1:49:21those houses coming up on Lynwood

1:49:23Southmont Road. We got those houses

1:49:24coming up on Junior Order Home Road. We

1:49:26got houses coming up on Brown Street. We

1:49:28got houses coming more houses coming up

1:49:30on Lynwood Road. I understand that these

1:49:32houses are small and we do they are

1:49:34going to need storage places. I do get

1:49:36that. But we have got to really start

1:49:38thinking about just growing. If we're

1:49:42going to do this, we need to do this

1:49:44right and we need to protect our green

1:49:47spaces and protect these animals that

1:49:50we're doing. Okay? I mean, I know it's a

1:49:53very small

1:49:54thing, but I'm just saying I appreciate

1:49:58it. Thank you for letting me speak. Yes,

1:49:59>> we're not allowed to engage.

1:50:01[clears throat] We're not supposed to. I

1:50:02will give you my card.

1:50:03>> Thank you. I appreciate it. Oh, we can

1:50:06get together and talk about things.

1:50:08>> Okay.

1:50:10>> Yes, sir.

1:50:12>> What I'm concerned about is this is an 8

1:50:16acre property. So, we're going to go

1:50:18from 8 acres of wooded area to 8 acres

1:50:21of tar. Okay. So, that's going to be

1:50:23like a heat dome right there. The bu the

1:50:27buildings have black roofs. Could we

1:50:29maybe change the roofs to be white to

1:50:31reflect the heat? We need to think like

1:50:34in advance of climate problems that

1:50:36we're going to have in this county

1:50:37because at the rate we're going, the

1:50:40more things we cut down, the worse it's

1:50:42going to get. So, if we could alleviate

1:50:44some of the heat, what are we going to

1:50:46do with the rain the rain runoff when it

1:50:49when it rains on 8 acres of tar, where

1:50:51is all that water going to go? Where did

1:50:53it where did the gutters going to take

1:50:54the water? Do you have guys have a plan

1:50:56for that? How come you guys didn't ask

1:50:59them about this stuff before we got to

1:51:00this point? That's another question I

1:51:02have. Like, why don't you guys come in

1:51:04with environmental questions before

1:51:07these people get their hopes up and come

1:51:09here and ask for changes of rules and

1:51:11regulations? Why aren't there a set of

1:51:14Davidson County environmental rules that

1:51:18everybody has to comply with?

1:51:22>> I'm sure I'm sure they wouldn't mind.

1:51:23>> Planning board. Did you go to planning

1:51:25board meeting and ask these questions of

1:51:27pimp?

1:51:28>> No, because I'm never invited to a

1:51:29planning board meeting.

1:51:30>> It's open. I mean, is it online? Yeah.

1:51:33>> Okay.

1:51:33>> It's open.

1:51:35>> Okay. Next time I will

1:51:36>> I I can I can maybe speak to that a

1:51:38little bit that the the zoning

1:51:40regulations will only allow for 30 or

1:51:4340% building coverage on the property.

1:51:46So, we can't we don't have a regulation

1:51:48speaking to your point of can Mr.

1:51:52Cochran if he purchases this property go

1:51:54in and clear the whole thing. We don't

1:51:56have anything in our our laws that state

1:51:58that. But with respect to how much

1:52:02building he can build on it, that would

1:52:03be limited to 30 or 40% depending on

1:52:06certain circumstances.

1:52:07>> Is there any stipulations where he'd

1:52:09have to plant some extra trees or extra

1:52:11bushes into the property to help

1:52:13alleviate some of the heat and some of

1:52:15the, you know, water runoff and

1:52:17everything else that we're worried

1:52:18about?

1:52:18>> We do have we do have buffering

1:52:20requirements uh in the ordinance.

1:52:22They're they're not they're not very

1:52:24substantial, but he would have to have a

1:52:26buffer between his non-residential use

1:52:28and any occupied residential property.

1:52:32>> Okay. [clears throat] But how do we get

1:52:34these things

1:52:36healthier and bigger and and make them

1:52:38more of a of a of a standard, a better

1:52:41standard instead of just minimal things?

1:52:43You know what I'm saying?

1:52:44>> Well, and this is a sales pitch for the

1:52:45future and it doesn't it's not relevant

1:52:47for anything tonight. Okay. our 2009

1:52:50land development plan um is basically

1:52:53we're going to have a review of that and

1:52:55an update this coming year and these

1:52:58concerns that everybody here is voicing.

1:53:01We need to hear about that. We want to

1:53:02hear about that during that process.

1:53:04It'll be a year-long process where we'll

1:53:06have advertised meetings. There'll be

1:53:09surveys and the concerns that rise to

1:53:12the top with the most people asking

1:53:15about those. You hear me reference land

1:53:17development plans. That's what happened

1:53:19in 2009. These were all issues that

1:53:22people wanted to see addressed. So, they

1:53:25addressed it. They put it in the form of

1:53:26a policy statement and we adopted it in

1:53:28the land development plan. That's

1:53:30getting ready to happen this year. So,

1:53:33we would welcome input. There'll be some

1:53:35surveys. There'll be all kinds of things

1:53:37that that uh several open meetings that

1:53:40folks can come to and we'd love

1:53:42>> they'll be here or at the board. They'll

1:53:43be advertised probably in different

1:53:45locations, I would imagine.

1:53:46>> I would just like to tell the public

1:53:49that if we have those meetings that they

1:53:53should come up because we're traveling

1:53:55down a very slippery slope where we have

1:53:58individuals telling you what type of

1:53:59roof you can have, what type of lights

1:54:02you can have on your property. And and I

1:54:04do not agree with that. I think that's

1:54:06more of a communistic socialistic view.

1:54:09And I don't like that. Well, I believe

1:54:11if you own your land and you build your

1:54:14house, there's no way I should be able

1:54:16to tell Trip what side what what kind of

1:54:19lights you put on the outside of your

1:54:21house or what kind of siding you put on

1:54:23it or what type of roof. Uh I think I

1:54:26think that's traveling into a place

1:54:28where you talk about rights.

1:54:30>> Chris, I know you have a hot for

1:54:32socialists and communists and all the

1:54:34isms and I know you're you're big you're

1:54:36a big

1:54:37>> flag waving American, which I love about

1:54:39you, but You're a little foxified

1:54:41>> about us when we

1:54:43>> you're you're a little foxified. All

1:54:45we're trying to do is protect the

1:54:46environment basically.

1:54:48>> And a corporation could do they could do

1:54:51minor changes to help the environment.

1:54:53We're not telling them to, you know,

1:54:54change the world. We're just telling

1:54:56them to be smart developing that piece

1:54:58of property. That's all.

1:55:00>> Okay.

1:55:00>> It's not socialist. It's not communist.

1:55:03It's just environmentalist.

1:55:05>> Okay. Is there anything else? Anyone

1:55:07else that would like to speak?

1:55:10>> Yes, I would.

1:55:12>> Um, you mentioned the uh study from

1:55:152009.

1:55:16>> Yes, sir.

1:55:17>> We haven't been practicing what we said

1:55:19we were going to do. In that study, we

1:55:22said we were going to have clean water.

1:55:25We said [clears throat] we were going to

1:55:26have clean air. And we haven't been

1:55:28doing all that good.

1:55:31>> Now, our citizens are concerned about

1:55:34this. Some of you may not believe in

1:55:37global warming, but a majority, I

1:55:40shouldn't say a majority, but there's a

1:55:41number of people here that do because

1:55:44science backs that that is happening.

1:55:48Now, what we want, what we want is for

1:55:52some kind of common sense rules when

1:55:56people want to develop the land. That's

1:55:59not unreasonable.

1:56:02>> Yeah. And it's not communist. In fact,

1:56:05it is de democratic as you can get. So,

1:56:09in any case, all we're asking is there's

1:56:13some benefits for the companies when

1:56:16they do put a a a lighter colored roof

1:56:19on their on their buildings because it

1:56:22reflects the heat and cuts down on their

1:56:25electric bills when it's hot as hell

1:56:29like it's been in the past few months.

1:56:32Although it's not global warming, it's

1:56:35still hot

1:56:37and they're paying electricity. And now

1:56:40you're saying, "Well, geez, since they

1:56:43got to pay a lot of electricity, we need

1:56:45to do power plant. We need pipelines."

1:56:49No, that's not it. Listen to what the

1:56:53people want. That's all we're asking.

1:56:56And if we're coming up with common sense

1:56:59solutions, it helps you, it helps us, it

1:57:03helps them.

1:57:05>> Thank you.

1:57:06>> Are you saying that you would require

1:57:08light colored roofs?

1:57:10>> No, I wouldn't make it a law. I wouldn't

1:57:13make it a law, but I'll tell you this.

1:57:16Number one, it makes sense. Number two,

1:57:18we could encourage them. Number three,

1:57:21are we giving them any tax incentives?

1:57:24>> Huh?

1:57:25>> Not that I know of. Not that you know

1:57:26of.

1:57:28>> Well, if you do decide to give them a

1:57:30tax incentive, in some cases it makes

1:57:33sense to do that. If you are going to

1:57:36give them a tax incentive, say, "Listen,

1:57:38do what you can to reduce your

1:57:40footprint. Do what you can to help the

1:57:43environment. Do what you can to cut down

1:57:46your electrical

1:57:48use."

1:57:49>> I think you already do that, don't you,

1:57:50Mr. Crook? When you meet with these

1:57:52these applicants, you already point

1:57:54those things out to them, don't you?

1:57:56>> We point out what's been adopted in the

1:57:58land development plan and the in the

1:58:00zoning regulations.

1:58:01>> But that's not enough. And I don't want

1:58:03to waste your time. And then I'm not

1:58:05here to beat you up either. What I'm

1:58:08just saying is listen to us. We have we

1:58:12don't have all these terrible plans that

1:58:15involve communism.

1:58:17We want to do the right things. and we

1:58:20elected you to do the right things.

1:58:24That's all we're saying. Thank you.

1:58:29>> Okay. Is there anyone else in the

1:58:31audience who wishes to speak either in

1:58:32favor of or opposition to this request?

1:58:36>> Yes,

1:58:38>> and I'm not here about the sports this

1:58:40time, y'all.

1:58:42My name's Ma Shook and I actually live

1:58:45at 414 Riverview Road and I'm not kin to

1:58:48him, but I work with them for a lot of

1:58:49years. Congratulations, Steve. Anyway,

1:58:53I'm here. I have three a little over

1:58:55three acres that the whole back of my

1:58:58property is going to be on that. Right

1:58:59now, there's nothing on it, but I've

1:59:01always held on to it because as we're

1:59:04aging out, we thought about downsizing

1:59:06and and living there. So, it's going to

1:59:08affect me more than likely. Um

1:59:12I want what's the difference between RA1

1:59:14and 2 and RA3 and all that.

1:59:18>> Um the RA1 and RA2. Can we go back to

1:59:21the zoning map please?

1:59:24Both of them stand for rural

1:59:25agricultural district. The RA1 or let me

1:59:28start with RA2. RA2 is the least

1:59:30restrictive residential classification

1:59:32that we have. It will allow for single

1:59:34wide manufactured homes, double wides,

1:59:36modulars, stickuilt homes. You can do

1:59:38duplexes on 40,000 square ft. The RA1 is

1:59:41very similar. Stands for the same thing,

1:59:43RA1. And it basically allows everything

1:59:47except for the single wide. And a double

1:59:49wide has to have a masonry foundation.

1:59:52>> Okay. That's was my question.

1:59:54>> Okay.

1:59:54>> I know a a lady from our church fought

1:59:57before Edgar even thought about being

1:59:59here.

1:59:59>> Yes, ma'am.

2:00:00>> And they had all this changed. And I

2:00:02thought maybe it would be under

2:00:05Edgar and all that's on the other side

2:00:07of the road. Yes, ma'am. But this would

2:00:09be the first thing on that side of the

2:00:10road. Am I not right?

2:00:12>> Uh it would be the first non-residential

2:00:14use on that side of the pro on that side

2:00:16of Bel.

2:00:16>> I had the understanding that that

2:00:18wouldn't have us because at the time the

2:00:20county had offered us a good bit of

2:00:23money for that. So I would have sort of

2:00:24been in favor of it. But now with us,

2:00:28like I said, either my son or I one

2:00:30thought about of moving there, and I

2:00:33didn't know if that was under protected

2:00:36or anything, but I guess not.

2:00:38>> Well, the the the land development plan

2:00:40classifies that whole region as an

2:00:43economic development corridor, even on

2:00:44the north side of Belmont Road.

2:00:46>> Did you say it was in the Carolina

2:00:48corridor?

2:00:49>> No, no, no. The the

2:00:50>> I thought it's on up.

2:00:51>> Yeah, it's it's further to the east.

2:00:53It's further to the east.

2:00:55>> All right. That answers my question

2:00:56then. Hopefully the lights will not be

2:00:58bad if in the event that we do, but I

2:01:01just wanted to make sure.

2:01:04>> Well, that that was a concern of the

2:01:05planning board and they they wanted to

2:01:07address that.

2:01:08>> All right. Miss Shook, is your property

2:01:1063 or

2:01:12>> 33? Okay.

2:01:14>> Miss Shook is 33 according to our

2:01:16records.

2:01:17>> All right. Thank you.

2:01:19>> Thank y'all.

2:01:20>> Thank you.

2:01:23So I don't see anyone else. Um

2:01:27>> maybe

2:01:31>> Okay.

2:01:33>> Thank you. We um heard a bit about a

2:01:36couple of different topics. Duke Energy

2:01:38Data Centers. I want to make sure that

2:01:40we um remember what the charges say and

2:01:43it's actually pretty simple. it is this

2:01:45site that is shown on your screen and

2:01:48whether it um whether the resulting

2:01:51request is reasonable in light of the

2:01:53factors and the considerations that we

2:01:55talked about earlier. I won't go through

2:01:57all of those. Um I'll just take a minute

2:01:59to briefly address some um of the

2:02:02questions and comments. So whether we

2:02:04can choose a specific type of lighting

2:02:06right now, um I like to say that

2:02:09Arizona's permission to try as you know

2:02:12this will go through TRC process and

2:02:15we'll have that legally binding

2:02:17commitment that lighting will not uh be

2:02:19polluted and shined or shown into um

2:02:23adjacent properties as well as Belmont

2:02:25Road. Um there is one condition that I

2:02:28did not mention um but there is a

2:02:31condition to preserve um tree save where

2:02:35feasible on the site. Again that's

2:02:36another legally binding

2:02:39condition.

2:02:41We heard that we're asking for changes

2:02:43to the development regulations and

2:02:46ordinances. We're asking for a

2:02:48reasonzoning change, but there are no

2:02:50variances or relief sought from the

2:02:53regulations of the zoning ordinance.

2:02:56Currently, it will be built according to

2:02:58the regulations that the county has in

2:03:01place to protect public safety and

2:03:03welfare in this area. We're not asking

2:03:05for any relief from that.

2:03:11Um, as far as the roofs and the building

2:03:14standards, we're going to comply with

2:03:16North Carolina building codes, energy

2:03:17codes, local codes, North Carolina DEQ,

2:03:21storm water. Um, anything that's

2:03:23applicable to the site will be in

2:03:24compliance with our engineers will

2:03:27handle the design of that. Then the

2:03:28county has to approve it, including the

2:03:31zoning uh staff.

2:03:33>> And then just one more piece there. the

2:03:35concept plans were concept plans just

2:03:37that there is no dedication or

2:03:38commitment to a black roof and I don't

2:03:40know that that's what you contemplate

2:03:42but um we've heard the concerns and the

2:03:44feedback we take them serious we don't

2:03:47take them lightly and Jonathan um we

2:03:49heard corporations yes this technically

2:03:51is an LLC but these are local born and

2:03:54raised Davidson County developers who

2:03:56take pride and have integrity in the

2:03:58area and will no doubt um build this

2:04:01development according to those values

2:04:04Again, we are are happy to answer any

2:04:06further questions that you have, but we

2:04:08are requesting a a vote of approval. And

2:04:11again,

2:04:13would love to answer any other

2:04:15questions, but I think we've adequately

2:04:16addressed at least what uh we've heard

2:04:18from the community this evening.

2:04:20>> I got a question for Lee and maybe back

2:04:23at y'all. I don't know. We don't require

2:04:25anybody to asphalt or concrete their

2:04:28parking lot, do we?

2:04:29>> We do not. This this would be just a

2:04:32simple all-weather surface of gravel

2:04:33would be adequate for this unless

2:04:35there's some type of building code

2:04:37requirement for ADA accessibility where

2:04:40that would have to be paved or concreted

2:04:43>> for the gentleman talking about you know

2:04:45the whole parking lot or do y'all plan

2:04:47to pave it or anything or that's not in

2:04:49the existing plans concrete or pavement.

2:04:53I know it's nicer if you do, but it's

2:04:54not

2:04:55>> um we'll have hard services on entry and

2:05:00uh but where the uh larger parking spot

2:05:02spaces be for access um as long as

2:05:05budget allows, we plan to do that. Okay.

2:05:08>> And subject to the build upon area

2:05:10restrictions and limitations and the

2:05:11environmental um aspects of the

2:05:13ordinance that Mr. Crook uh briefly

2:05:16discussed earlier

2:05:18>> the NC DOT driveway permit which is a

2:05:21submitted condition that

2:05:22>> they're required to do it on D. I get

2:05:24that the first 50 foot would be uh paid.

2:05:27I didn't think there was anything. I

2:05:29know in some of the cities they that's

2:05:30why when you go to Walmart, you see all

2:05:32these or some of the shopping centers,

2:05:35all these parking spots that nobody uses

2:05:37is because the cities mandate that they

2:05:40have so many parking places per square

2:05:42foot, which I think they need to shrink

2:05:44that so we don't have so much parking.

2:05:46But you go to some of these shopping

2:05:49centers and half of them's uh parking

2:05:51spots are empty, you know. So, okay.

2:05:54That's neither here nor there, but there

2:05:56was a recent No, there was a I have some

2:05:58happy news to report to you possibly.

2:05:59There was a recent change to 160D, the

2:06:02land use laws to eliminate parking

2:06:04requirements for commercial uh

2:06:06development. So,

2:06:08>> state state level

2:06:09>> statewide. Awesome.

2:06:10>> Isn't that effective 1 to 27 though?

2:06:12>> I think that's correct.

2:06:13>> January 1 of 27, we will no longer be

2:06:16able to regulate parking requirements at

2:06:18the local level.

2:06:18>> Oh, wow. What's that uh what's that

2:06:20law's uh number?

2:06:22>> I can get you the session law. Um, I'll

2:06:24I'll write it down or follow up with

2:06:25you. I don't want to tell you wrong.

2:06:27>> Give it to We'll be doing a text change.

2:06:29>> He can forward it to us.

2:06:30>> Lots of changes coming.

2:06:31>> Yes.

2:06:32>> Okay.

2:06:33>> It's [clears throat] all the questions I

2:06:35have

2:06:35>> if if we're finished. Um, anything else

2:06:39you want to add at the end here?

2:06:42>> Happy to [clears throat] answer any

2:06:43questions you you all may have.

2:06:44>> Okay, I think we're good. I declare the

2:06:47public hearing closed. Mr. Crook, what's

2:06:50the staff recommendation?

2:06:52>> Thank you. As Miss Matthews alluded to,

2:06:54the planning board did approve this

2:06:55unanimously on at their August 18th

2:06:57meeting 5 to zero. Um, like to briefly

2:07:00go over the conditions that have been

2:07:02submitted. Obtain all required NC DOT

2:07:05driveway access permits. Pave for

2:07:06concrete the first 50 ft of the driveway

2:07:08entrance. Cover all drive issable areas

2:07:12with an all-weather hard surface

2:07:13material. Uh, maintain all setbacks

2:07:16required by Davidson County zoning

2:07:17ordinance. retain as many existing trees

2:07:20as is reasonably possible to provide

2:07:22natural screening, install and maintain

2:07:25all landscaping and screening required

2:07:26by the Davis County zoning ordinance.

2:07:28And you've also heard Miss Matthews

2:07:30alluded to the uh concerns being

2:07:32addressed by the planning board subject

2:07:34to applicable NC DOT and North Carolina

2:07:36state building code standards.

2:07:38regulations, fixtures located along or

2:07:40oriented towards an adjacent property

2:07:42line or Belmont Road shall include house

2:07:46side shields or equivalent shielding on

2:07:48the side facing the adjoining property

2:07:50or road. So those are the conditions

2:07:53that are offered as part of the

2:07:54application. Um the applicant wishes to

2:07:57reszone lot 26 to construct several

2:07:59compartmentalized storage buildings on

2:08:01the property. The subject track is

2:08:03completely surrounded by RA1 or RA2 rule

2:08:05agricultural zoning. Properties to the

2:08:07west are vacant and wooded. One of the

2:08:10properties to the north is vacant and

2:08:11the other has a dwelling located on

2:08:13site. The property to the south has a

2:08:16dwelling on it as well. The property to

2:08:18the east is vacant and wooded and

2:08:20belongs to and is a remnant of the

2:08:22Davidson County's I85 corporate center.

2:08:25That's the property that Mr. Cochran

2:08:27alluded to that was part of Davidson

2:08:30County but still zone residential. Um

2:08:33while this portion of Belmont Road is

2:08:35still vacant, Wooder residential, other

2:08:37uses are in very close proximity to this

2:08:39site, 700 ft to the southwest is the

2:08:42county's box site and the eastern edge

2:08:45of the county's I 85 corporate center

2:08:48industrial park. Um LI limited

2:08:50industrial zoning is to the east of this

2:08:53property as well, 1500 ft east on

2:08:55Belmont Road. And then again at the

2:08:57intersection of Lynwood Southmont Road

2:09:00um our industrially zone properties.

2:09:02Davidson County has extended public

2:09:04sewer to the area to accommodate the

2:09:06corporate center indicating change or

2:09:09changing conditions. Uh the Belmont Road

2:09:11interchange with I 85 has been

2:09:14substantially reworked resulting in much

2:09:17more traffic volume on said road.

2:09:19Davidson County's land development plan

2:09:21designates this area as an economic

2:09:22development corridor and therefore

2:09:24promotes non-residential development uh

2:09:27on site. Continued economic growth is

2:09:29anticipated in this area. Policies 1.2,

2:09:331.3, 1.5, 1.8, 1.16, 5.6, and 7.3

2:09:38of said land development plan uh support

2:09:41the applicant's request. The Davis

2:09:43County Zoning Ordinance Article 7

2:09:45administration section 7.10 10

2:09:48amendments offer support to the request

2:09:50of district expansion due to change or

2:09:52change conditions generally in the

2:09:55county and specifically in the area. As

2:09:57they were alluded to earlier, all of the

2:10:00new houses, nobody wants a basement

2:10:02anymore. The garages are, you know,

2:10:05garages and they're used for storage. We

2:10:07see these things, these types of uses

2:10:09going up all over the places and they're

2:10:11normally in close proximity to

2:10:13residential district. Um because the

2:10:16property will not perk, this is

2:10:17potentially the highest and best use of

2:10:20the property and staff would recommend

2:10:22approval uh of the application and asked

2:10:24you to adopt a resolution and statement

2:10:27of consistency.

2:10:29>> Do I have a motion and a second to

2:10:30either approve or deny the resing

2:10:33request? So move, madam chair, I make a

2:10:35motion that we approve the request and

2:10:37adopt this adopt the statement of

2:10:39consistency.

2:10:40>> Thank you, sir. Do we have a second?

2:10:43>> Second. Who's that?

2:10:44>> No, you can have a second. Go

2:10:45>> ahead. You [laughter] have I just I was

2:10:48waiting for you.

2:10:49>> Commissioner Male. Um,

2:10:52>> do I have a vote? All

2:10:55>> in favor? All in favor say I.

2:10:57>> I.

2:10:59>> Okay.

2:11:00>> Thank you, sir. All right. Item number

2:11:05D, resoning request in the Midway

2:11:07Township. Mr. Crook will introduce the

2:11:10application.

2:11:12>> All right. Uh before we get into this,

2:11:15Miss Matthews may have something to say.

2:11:17She approached me right during the

2:11:19meeting and and may have a request for

2:11:21the board.

2:11:23Again, Ladra Matthews on behalf of the

2:11:26applicant group 21, very respectful of

2:11:28your time and everyone's in the audience

2:11:30who presumably are here for this agenda

2:11:33item since they are still here. Um, so

2:11:36with that, I am regrettably making a

2:11:38request before you. As Mr. Crook said, I

2:11:40let him know as soon as we found out.

2:11:42The property owner intended to be uh a

2:11:45part of the presentation this evening.

2:11:48He was traveling or is traveling from

2:11:51out of town. We thought he was going to

2:11:52be here on time and he is not. So I'm

2:11:54asking or we are requesting a

2:11:56continuence until your October meeting

2:11:59to allow him to be here.

2:12:02>> I've said no.

2:12:03>> Separately, but relatedly, um we've been

2:12:06given specific instructions presumably

2:12:09because of the contentious nature of the

2:12:12case. Um Chairman Elliott or

2:12:16Commissioner Elliot, excuse me. Um, you

2:12:18alluded to some conditions that were

2:12:20offered for Belmont Avenue or

2:12:22contemplated during the hearing. There

2:12:24were also several contemplated during

2:12:26the planning board hearing. I think

2:12:28again rubbing my crystal ball and um

2:12:30speculating

2:12:32uh the planning board did not wish to um

2:12:36further develop or contemplate those um

2:12:40profered conditions at that meeting

2:12:41because I think they had in mind what

2:12:43their vote would be. Um the applicant is

2:12:47prepared to offer some of those

2:12:48conditions today, but we have been given

2:12:50specific instructions from the property

2:12:52owner um to not concede to any of those

2:12:55without his consent or present. So

2:12:57again, because of those two reasons,

2:12:58we're requesting a continuence until

2:13:00your October meeting.

2:13:02>> I don't have an issue with himself.

2:13:04>> I don't

2:13:11I'd say we can

2:13:12>> you had an opportunity to be here. just

2:13:14like all these people have.

2:13:16>> If he if he couldn't make it tough,

2:13:20>> he had an opportunity to be here just

2:13:21like all these people did.

2:13:26[applause]

2:13:28>> May I say one thing? He was local 18

2:13:30hours.

2:13:33Public hearing is not open.

2:13:38>> They knew this was here today.

2:13:43>> I think we need to go on with the

2:13:45hearing.

2:13:45>> Madam, we we continue them all the time

2:13:48though, Steve. This ain't nothing out of

2:13:49order.

2:13:52>> I just think it's obvious to me. I mean,

2:13:55we've all gotten the motion that their

2:13:56own town council passed. Overwhelmingly,

2:13:58they don't want this. These people have

2:14:00been sitting here all night. Obviously,

2:14:02this other guy's had a chance to be

2:14:04here. They've been sitting here all

2:14:05night. I said we go ahead with it. Wait

2:14:06a minute. This is not [applause]

2:14:13>> This is not in the town council here.

2:14:15This is not in the town. This piece of

2:14:17property.

2:14:17>> I'm talking the Midway Town Council

2:14:19passed a resolution not wanting this

2:14:21thing reszone.

2:14:27>> Postpone it. When when did y'all agree?

2:14:29>> When did y'all want to continue to the

2:14:31next meeting?

2:14:32>> Just until October.

2:14:35>> We continue.

2:14:42>> So, we can't continue it tonight though.

2:14:43Just get it done.

2:14:44>> Are they saying the property owner wants

2:14:46to be here

2:14:48>> for like the concessions or discussion?

2:14:51>> Discussion. Yeah.

2:14:54>> I mean, the area it can't handle the

2:14:57apartments. I know Eller I played

2:14:58paintball off the paint road.

2:15:00>> Madam Madam Chair, I I make a motion we

2:15:02vote to deny the the continuence.

2:15:05>> I second it.

2:15:06>> I have a motion in a second. All in

2:15:08favor say I.

2:15:10>> I.

2:15:12>> Thank you. [applause]

2:15:14>> Opposition

2:15:16>> I

2:15:16>> I

2:15:19>> Okay.

2:15:20>> Okay.

2:15:20>> Okay.

2:15:21>> Did you vote I or no, Chris? I didn't

2:15:23hear you down there. uh to go a way just

2:15:26to hear them.

2:15:29>> Okay.

2:15:29>> Chair Waterford, I know that we

2:15:31typically go into the staff um report,

2:15:34but having not been granted the

2:15:36continuence, we are left with

2:15:38withdrawing the application with the

2:15:40intent to refile with those additional

2:15:42conditions after receiving the property

2:15:44owner's blessing.

2:15:50>> Thank you. I appreciate it and again

2:15:52apologize. We are respectful of

2:15:54everyone's time. Thank you.

2:15:57>> Motion to go into

2:15:58>> Motion to go in close session.

2:16:00>> Okay.

2:16:01>> Second.

2:16:03>> All in favor?

2:16:04>> I just Madam Chair, you

2:16:18All

2:16:34right.

2:16:37Heat.

2:17:11Heat. Heat.

2:18:48Heat. Heat.

2:21:19Heat. Heat.

2:21:23Heat. Heat.

2:22:34Heat. Heat.

2:37:12Heat. Heat.

2:39:40back into close open session.

2:39:42>> Motion to come back in session.

2:39:44>> Okay. Second.

2:39:45>> Second.

2:39:46>> All in favor?

2:39:47>> I.

2:39:48>> Mr. Jones.

2:39:49>> Yes. The board um met in close session

2:39:52to discuss a um an outstanding legal

2:39:55issue and staff were given instructions

2:39:57on um how the board would like uh staff

2:39:59to proceed on that. That's it. Okay.

2:40:02Thank you. Motion

2:40:04second. All

2:40:05>> in favor say I. I.