2026-10-21 - Budget and Public Employees Committee
Summary
Based on auto-generated captions (831 segments for a video of about 2h21m, so captions are sparse in places; names, ward numbers and figures may be misheard). Captions begin at 07:11 (call to order) and end at 2:20:37. Gap: the committee recessed at 23:07 and resumed at 2:03:36; there is no captioned speech in between (about 1h40m, a working session held off the record with a quorum deliberately not present, per the chair), so it is not counted as discussion.
Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk; the recess is excluded):
| Topic | Minutes | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Bus Rapid Transit Sales Tax Ballot Measure (BB 59) | 30 | 91% |
| Other business | 3 | 9% |
- Wednesday, October 21, 2026, Budget and Public Employees Committee, called to order at about 10:03 a.m. with Alderman Aldridge (14th Ward) as chair and Alderman Browning (9th Ward) as vice chair, who ran the bill hearing.
- Present: Alderwoman Sonnier, Alderwoman Velasquez, Alderman Devote (captioned "Dvote"), Browning and Aldridge.
- Adjourned at about 2:20:37 by voice with no objection.
Bus Rapid Transit Sales Tax Ballot Measure (BB 59)
8:49-23:07, 2:03:36-2:19:15
- Board Bill 59, sponsored by Alderman Aldridge with President Green, would put a question to city voters letting the 2017 half-cent economic development sales tax, whose 60 percent transit share is limited to the north-south MetroLink line, also fund bus rapid transit (BRT). The other shares (neighborhood revitalization, workforce development, public safety, infrastructure) are untouched.
- First committee substitute: replaced "other mass transit initiatives" with "other bus, rail, paratransit services and enhancements", a change prompted by concerns from Sonnier and Velasquez at the earlier hearing. Adopted 5 yes, then three exhibit amendments making the same wording change were adopted 5 yes.
- The head of the regional transit agency (captioned "Mr. Roach", unverified) asked the committee to keep the ballot language short and direct, saying voters may not understand terms like paratransit. Aldridge then moved to recess to simplify the language; the recess passed 5 yes. Sponsor, chair, transit agency and city planning staff met during the recess.
- Back from recess, the chair explained the group had focused on brevity and clarity. A new committee substitute drops the bus, rail and paratransit wording and says only that the transit portion of the tax may also fund BRT, covering construction and operation. Ballot text as read: the city collects a half-cent sales tax for economic development, 60 percent funds north-south MetroLink transit, and the question asks whether that portion may also fund BRT. It creates no new tax, applies to funds already collected and future revenue, and requires an annual public audit.
- Sponsor's rationale: the money is being collected but cannot be used because the north-south MetroLink line is far more expensive and federal partners are uncertain; BRT is faster to start. Browning described BRT as dedicated lanes, signal priority and distinct vehicles, "a rail line on wheels", and said a public education effort will run over the coming months.
- Because the new substitute appeared less than 24 hours before the meeting, the rules were suspended (5 yes) to take it up. Velasquez, Devote and Browning asked to be added as co-sponsors. No members of the public had signed up to testify.
- The new committee substitute (not "as amended") was passed out of committee with a do-pass recommendation by prevailing-side voice vote with no objection. The sponsor thanked Metro, city planning staff and legislative staff. The bill is on the October 23 full Board agenda.
Other business
7:11-8:49, 2:19:15-2:20:37
- Quorum established; minutes of October 8 approved, 3 yes and 1 present (one member's response was unclear in the captions).
- No resolutions for review and no written testimony. Announcement from the chair: a BRT open house on Thursday, October 22, 5 to 7 p.m. at the Polish Heritage Center in the 14th Ward, to gather design feedback.
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Transcript
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Transcript
07:11Good morning. This is a budget and
07:13public employees committee. Today is
07:16Wednesday the 21st. It is 10:03. Madame
07:20clerk, please call the role.
07:22>> Alderwoman Sier.
07:26>> Vice Chair Brownie
07:28>> present. Alderwoman Velasquez
07:31>> present.
07:32>> Alderman Devote
07:34>> present.
07:35>> Chair Aldrich
07:36>> present.
07:37>> Alderwoman Sier
07:40present we have quum.
07:46>> Thank you madame clerk. With that we
07:49have established a quorum. Uh next item
07:51of the agenda is approval of minutes
07:54from Thursday October 8th 2026. And I'll
07:57take a motion to approve the minutes.
08:04>> So moved.
08:05>> Second.
08:06>> It was moved by the alderman from the
08:07ninth, seconded by the alderwoman from
08:09the 6th. And we approve the minutes from
08:10October 8th, 2026. Madam clerk, please.
08:14>> Alderwoman Sier,
08:17Vice Chair Browning,
08:19>> I.
08:20>> Alderwoman Velasquez,
08:22>> I.
08:23>> Alderman Dvote,
08:24>> present. Chair Aldrich
08:28>> Ilderwoman
08:33Sonier.
08:38>> Three I votes, one present.
08:40>> All right. Thank you, Madam Clerk. With
08:41that, we have approved the minutes from
08:43or yeah, we approved the minutes from
08:45October 8th, 2026. Uh the next item on
08:49the agenda will be board bills for
08:50review which is board bill 59 sponsored
08:53by myself and co-sponsor President
08:55Green. And I will turn it over to the
08:57vice chair of the budget committee,
08:58Alman Browning.
09:04>> Thank you, Alderman Aldridge. You are
09:06recognized on board bill 59.
09:21All right. Thank you, Vice Chair
09:23Browning, and members of the budget and
09:25public employees committee. Um today I
09:28bring back in front of the committee uh
09:30board bill 59
09:33uh which is putting the question in
09:35front of voters to expand the language
09:38uh for the halfsent sales tax that was
09:41originally in front of the voters back
09:42in 2017 to be able to um expand part of
09:47that. Um there was multiple things on
09:49that ballot measure um from north south
09:52metro expansion which was 60% of that
09:55tax. Uh neighborhood revitalization
09:58which is 10% of that tax, workforce
10:00development which is 10, public safety
10:03initiatives which was 10 and
10:04infrastructure improvements. Um we are
10:07not touching um any of the other items
10:10outside of the North South Metro Link
10:13expansion uh to put in front of voters
10:15the ability to be able to use that tax
10:18for uh North South Metro Link expansion
10:21or uh BRT bus rapid transit. Um, I do
10:26want to thank my colleagues, uh, well,
10:28there's a lot of thanks, but I do want
10:30to thank my colleagues, uh, from the
10:32budget and public employees committee
10:34that raised, I think, some concerns of,
10:37um, some language that was in the
10:40original bill around mass transit. um
10:43mainly Aldwoman Sier and Aldo Velasquez
10:46to um figure out how do we get to a more
10:51detailed and not so broad uh language
10:55especially as voters go hopefully vote
10:57on this. Um so after working with all
11:01these amazing people to the left I do
11:03want to thank uh by state or metro
11:05bystate um the the city of St. Louis, uh
11:09Scott Oggovie mainly was a huge help as
11:11well as advocates um from the
11:14transportation community from CMT and
11:16the realators uh to kind of take those
11:19concerns into consideration.
11:22So in front of us I do have a committee
11:24sub that I know I've shared with uh all
11:26the committee members um on that concern
11:29that was brought by uh all the woman
11:32Alaska and Sier which in the committee
11:34sub what we're doing is we're striking
11:36out other mass transit initiatives and
11:40inserting that with other bus rail
11:43paratransit services and enhancements
11:46um in the committee sub everywhere where
11:48there is that language it is stried out
11:51there is um additional amendments that I
11:54also have that we need to adopt because
11:58u when we changed it in the bill uh we
12:01didn't do it in the exhibit and of
12:03course due to our timeline I wasn't able
12:05to include in the committee sub so the
12:08amendments that we uh that's also in
12:10front of us is the same thing in the
12:12exhibit of the bill where it say mass
12:13transit initiative we strike it out to
12:15make sure all the language is clean with
12:17other bus rail paratransit services
12:20enhancements ments. So before adopting
12:22the committee sub, Mr. Vice Chair, I'm
12:24open up or open to any questions that
12:27committee members may have.
12:30>> Thank you. We'll go to the committee and
12:32see if anyone has any questions. Uh
12:34starting with uh Alderwoman Velasquez.
12:39>> Thank you, Vice Chair. I have no
12:41questions. I just want to uh on the
12:43committee substitute. I just want to
12:44thank the bill sponsor. I know this is
12:47uh complicated and very important piece
12:49of legislation and I know we're all busy
12:52so sometimes we get feedback to you late
12:54and I appreciate your flexibility in um
12:57addressing our concerns a couple weeks
12:59ago and also today so I have no
13:01questions
13:02>> and I do appreciate uh I think uh I
13:05don't I don't think there's no question
13:07anybody want to make sure that this go
13:08to the ballot but want to get it right.
13:09So, know we've talked about this
13:11language and um late night calls
13:15conversations, but I appreciate your
13:17leadership and uh bringing the concerns
13:19and always willing to work to try to get
13:21it correct. So, thank you.
13:22>> Thank you,
13:24>> Alman Devote.
13:26>> No questions.
13:29Um having no other members present I'll
13:31just ask so the intention of this is
13:34simply clarify instead of mass transit
13:37which types of transit will uh eligible
13:40and um let me see you're nodding yes but
13:43just
13:44>> yes so u instead of um just saying mass
13:47transit like you said vice chair is
13:48being a little bit more descriptive of
13:50where what uh other type of
13:53transportation between bus rail pair
13:55transit I've been practiced that word a
13:58million times today and um the how that
14:01can be used for that and the
14:02enhancements around those.
14:04>> Okay, that is my only question. Um with
14:07that, you're uh recognized to proceed.
14:11>> Thank you. Uh with that, I would um just
14:14ask that the committee would make a
14:16motion to adopt the committee substitute
14:18to board bill 15.
14:21>> So moved.
14:26Second. Okay.
14:28>> Moved by the alderman from the fifth,
14:29seconded by the other one from sixth.
14:31Madame clerk, please call a role to
14:33adopt the amendment number one to
14:36committee substitute.
14:37>> No, we're adopting. Sorry, we're
14:39adopting the committee sub, right?
14:40>> It's a committee sub, not an amendment.
14:42Okay. To commit to adopt board bill 59,
14:45committee substitute.
14:48>> Alderwoman Sier.
14:53>> vice chair Browning.
14:54>> I
14:55>> Alderwoman Velasquez.
14:57>> I
14:58>> Alderman Devote.
14:59>> I
15:00>> chair Aldrich.
15:01>> I
15:02>> Five I votes.
15:05>> Thank you. With that, we've adopted the
15:07committee substitute. You're now
15:08recognized on board bill number nine,
15:10committee substitute.
15:11>> Thank you, Vice Chair Browning. Um if
15:13it's okay with you, uh Mr. chairman,
15:16unless you want to do individually. Um I
15:19can wrap these up in one motion, but
15:21amendment number one, amendment number
15:22two, and amendment number three. Um
15:25again, in exhibit of the board bill, um
15:27on the first page of the exhibit, the
15:29summary, again, it had mass transit that
15:32didn't uh take that out. So, we're
15:35placing that language with the language
15:36we just adopted, trying to be
15:37consistent. as well as amendment number
15:40two. Um in exhibit two, uh it mentions
15:44man mass transit in the section of
15:46transit as well as um it mentions mass
15:50transit twice uh in the section of where
15:52we did change the title or originally
15:54said mass transit to other where it
15:56originally said mass transit. We changed
15:58the title to that to make sure it's
16:00consistent with other bus rail
16:02paratransit service enhancements. But in
16:04that uh section it would mention mass
16:07transit twice. So the goal of these
16:09three amendments again is to make sure
16:11that everything is in sync where there
16:13was mass transit mentioned outside of
16:15the board bill um where was mentioned in
16:18exhibit that is cleaned up and I know I
16:20already said thank you to the old woman
16:22from the seven six but I know the old
16:24woman from seven got here. This is I
16:26think some of the concern that uh you
16:29and the old woman brought up and
16:30appreciate you guys working to be clear
16:33on that language. So with that I'm open
16:35up for any questions.
16:37We'll see if the committee has any
16:39questions. Uh starting with Alder one
16:41Sier.
16:43>> I don't have any questions. I would just
16:45thank the alderman for working with me.
16:47My concerns.
16:49>> Alder one Vasquez.
16:52>> I don't have any questions. I know that
16:53we're uh we're going to go back and look
16:56at the ballot language. Uh and I do
16:58think uh why having the paratransit
17:01piece is important. Obviously u many
17:03folks may not know what it means on the
17:05ballot, but we're going to talk about
17:06that. So, I have no questions. I will I
17:08will I'm in favor of adopting all these
17:09amendments today.
17:11>> Alman Devote,
17:13>> no questions.
17:14>> I also do not have any questions. Um,
17:17all three of these amendments are really
17:20the same thing just in different parts
17:22of the bill. Uh, so I'll accept a motion
17:25to adopt amendments one, two, and three.
17:29>> So moved
17:31>> to board bill 59, committee substitute.
17:33It's moved by the other one from the
17:34seventh. Uh seconded by the other from
17:36the sixth. Um madam clerk, please call
17:39roll.
17:41>> Alderwoman Sier
17:43>> I.
17:44>> Vice Chair Browning
17:46>> I.
17:46>> Alderwoman Velasquez
17:48>> I.
17:49>> Alderman Devote
17:51>> I.
17:52>> Chair Aldrich
17:53>> I.
17:54>> Five I votes.
17:56>> Right. With that, we have in front of us
17:58now board bill number 59, committee
18:00substitute as a
18:03>> thank you uh vice chairman and members
18:05of the committee. Um I am going to allow
18:07uh Tolby from Metro to come up and just
18:11say a few words.
18:13>> Okay, Mr. Roach, you're recognized.
18:18>> Thank you chairman, members of the
18:19committee. In regards to board bill 59
18:22and the amendment, what's very important
18:24is that uh to try to be respective of
18:27the committee's wishes, just to rehash
18:30uh what we went through this um this
18:32committee asked uh to go out to the
18:35voters specifically for that. I I think
18:37universally at that committee meeting we
18:40had great support from transit from this
18:42entire uh board and uh that was
18:45reflected in that. The support then has
18:48to move to the public. If we're asking
18:50to the public, we I I do want to ask
18:53respectfully of the of the committee to
18:55consider that we have to pass the bill.
18:58Um and simplicity as far as that's
19:01concerned is important. um something
19:03that's very direct and not too wordy is
19:05important for our citizens, seen in
19:08balance with the um policy and
19:11initiatives that were articulated by
19:13several of you uh last week uh to be
19:16sure that we're giving the public what
19:17they've asked for. Um I I agree uh
19:21entirely with that. I also would move to
19:24just as a matter of course um there's
19:26never a time that I will not show up to
19:28this committee or anything and discuss
19:30transit. I think we've been able to
19:33partner and be sure that we have great
19:35transit support. Part of federal funding
19:38is a requirement that I demonstrate that
19:41I am working with the local elected
19:43body. That is literally a scoring
19:46criteria in any green line project
19:48whether it is rail, bus, anything. I
19:52have to do it. So I have to show up to
19:55this um podium in order to get any
19:58federal dollars whatsoever. So there are
20:00some very interesting embedded breaks
20:03associated with that when it gets to
20:05specifics and we do have a problem of
20:08translating to the public exactly what
20:10some of these products are. Um
20:12Alderwoman Velasquez
20:14mentioned look paratransit is absolutely
20:17critical to my operation though all of
20:20the public understand what that is. I
20:21would unquestionably the answer is no. I
20:24wish it I wish it were a yes but it is
20:26not. So, um, we're trying, we're
20:28challenged as policy makers and
20:30obviously an operator of transit to move
20:32forward on something that is precise.
20:34So, I would really appreciate the
20:36committee's consideration of brevity um
20:39so that so that we give our partners the
20:42opportunity to pass this bill. I really
20:45appreciate the support and the very
20:47realistic discussions on what we want to
20:50move forward for public policy.
20:52Respectfully, u uh thank you for that.
20:54I'm available for any questions if
20:56there's any specifics. Uh uh thank you,
20:59Vice Chair Brown.
21:01>> Thank you.
21:02>> Uh does any of the committee have any
21:04questions for Mr. Roach? Just please
21:06indicate if you do. Seeing none, um
21:10Alderman Aldridge, you are recognized
21:12again on board bill number 59, committee
21:14substitute as amended in committee.
21:16>> Thank you, Vice Chair Browning. Uh with
21:18that, I think one of the things that uh
21:22president, our CEO, Mr. approach set for
21:24Metro is I think the importance of one
21:27getting this bill passed but giving the
21:28voters opportunity to vote on it um if
21:31they're you know we uh need to make sure
21:34that it is uh language that uh voters
21:38will be able to understand um because we
21:40definitely want to
21:43um we definitely want to make sure that
21:47um
21:49once it get to the ballot that
21:50ultimately it it does pass. Um, so with
21:55that,
21:56uh,
21:58Mr. Chair, uh, if it's okay with you,
22:02could we take a motion to recess, um,
22:06to,
22:08uh,
22:10as a committee, um, potentially figure
22:12out how to make that language simpler?
22:15>> Uh, yes. So, um, just so people know, it
22:19the committee structure doesn't allow
22:21for, uh, the kind of conversation we
22:23need to have to be able to hash this
22:25out. So, we're going to take a quick
22:27recess, uh, figure this out, and then
22:29when we come back, we'll provide update
22:31on what was discussed and why uh, what
22:34was decided so that we can uh, continue
22:36to be transparent for everybody in this
22:38process. Uh, so with that, uh, I'll
22:41accept a motion to move to recess.
22:44>> Move. Second. It's moved by the alderman
22:47from the 7th, seconded by the honor from
22:49the sixth. Madame clerk, please call
22:51roll.
22:53>> Alderwoman Sier
22:55>> I.
22:56>> Vice chair Brownie
22:58>> I.
22:58>> Alderwoman Vellesquez
23:00>> I.
23:01>> Alderman Devote
23:02>> I.
23:03>> Chair Aldrich
23:04>> I.
23:05>> Five I votes.
23:07>> Thank you. We are now recessed.
2:03:36All right. Good afternoon. Uh we are now
2:03:40uh resuming from recess. Uh Madame Cork,
2:03:43I think we need to call roll again.
2:03:51Alderwoman Sier
2:03:54present.
2:04:02>> Vice Chair Brownie
2:04:03>> present.
2:04:06>> Alderwoman Velasquez
2:04:07>> here.
2:04:09>> Alderman Devote
2:04:11>> present.
2:04:12>> Chair Aldrich
2:04:14>> present.
2:04:16>> Five present.
2:04:18>> With that we have a quorum. Um, I'm just
2:04:21going to take a brief moment to explain
2:04:24what we did while we were in our recess.
2:04:27We sat down uh with uh bystate and metro
2:04:33uh with our uh city planning uh
2:04:36department uh with Scott Olgvby and uh
2:04:39with representatives from CMT and uh we
2:04:42and a couple alders uh so as not to um
2:04:47not to not to have quorum but to make
2:04:48sure that we have enough people in the
2:04:50room to figure out the how the language
2:04:51should be phrased. Uh after some
2:04:54discussion, we decided to focus on
2:04:57brevity and clarity uh and try to make
2:05:00sure that the language was as direct as
2:05:02possible so that we were not uh
2:05:05confusing anyone but also making as
2:05:08clear as possible that we are intending
2:05:09to switch the uh funding source that
2:05:13currently is allocated in this half cent
2:05:15sales tax. 60% of that goes uh north
2:05:18south metro link transit. And now we are
2:05:21going to shift the language over to
2:05:24describe that funding to go to bus rapid
2:05:27transit or BRT. Uh so that's what we
2:05:31were doing is figuring out exactly the
2:05:33language. The focus was really on what
2:05:35was going to go on the ballot so that we
2:05:37could be as clear as possible and now uh
2:05:40we're going to be taking some steps to
2:05:42get the rest of the bill to match that.
2:05:44Uh which Alderman Aldridge will describe
2:05:46those changes. Uh thank you vice chair
2:05:49Browning and I think you um covered kind
2:05:54of the basis why I went on recess. I do
2:05:56want to thank uh you Aldwoman Velasquez,
2:06:00Aldwoman Sier and Alderman Devote as
2:06:03well as partners from CMT um partners
2:06:06from our uh city department um for I
2:06:10think as you mentioned trying to make
2:06:12sure that uh at the end of the day that
2:06:14the language is uh clear of what we're
2:06:17asking voters to vote on um to be able
2:06:20to use funds that it's already collected
2:06:22to uh shift to BRT and the committee sub
2:06:26that we adopted earlier. Uh there was
2:06:28language that said that this could be
2:06:30used um for BRT or bus rail transit um
2:06:36paratransit uh enhancements. And I think
2:06:40the goal of the legislation is
2:06:43ultimately um ask voters if they want to
2:06:47um allow this fund to go to BRT. uh
2:06:50understanding that's a little bit more
2:06:52uh easier process to be able to get
2:06:54across the finish line and start to make
2:06:56transit a little bit more accessible. Um
2:06:59so I think with clearing up the language
2:07:01in front of everybody is a new committee
2:07:04sub uh that gets rid of um the language
2:07:08that we adopted earlier around bus rail
2:07:11and paratransit enhancement and keeps it
2:07:13very simple um to uh north south metro
2:07:17link to also include bus rapid trans
2:07:20period and I do want to read the ballot
2:07:23language um so it's it's clear of what
2:07:26we're asking voters to and then we'll
2:07:29take any questions from uh committee
2:07:31members. So, the new language is just a
2:07:33lot more clear and straight to the point
2:07:35of how this tax would go to funding uh
2:07:38bus rapid transit. So, it states that
2:07:40the city of St. Louis currently collects
2:07:42a halfsent sales tax for the economic
2:07:45development or economic development. 60%
2:07:48of this sales tax is to fund North South
2:07:50Metro Link transit. Shall the city allow
2:07:55the transit portion of this tax to also
2:07:57fund BRT? This portion would not create
2:08:01a new tax. This is a tax that has
2:08:03already uh been in front of the voters
2:08:05and voted on in 2017. So, it's not
2:08:08additional tax. This change would apply
2:08:10to funds already collected and future
2:08:13tax revenue. And an annual public audit
2:08:16is also required uh of how these funds
2:08:18are being used um on top of Metro
2:08:21currently already comes in front of
2:08:23transportation and commerce where we
2:08:24have to vote on their budget. Um, so I
2:08:27think uh I think as you stated,
2:08:29Alderman, and and some of my colleagues
2:08:31like Ald Velasquez, uh it's important to
2:08:34make it very clear to what we're asking
2:08:37voters to vote on um to be able to use
2:08:39these funds for BRT and not some of the
2:08:42additional things that uh we currently
2:08:44adopted. So, uh I really appreciate this
2:08:47committee for working to simplify the
2:08:50language as possible and put it in front
2:08:51of the voters for them to either decide
2:08:54yes or no. um if we do not do anything,
2:08:57what's currently happening is the fund
2:08:59is still being collected and uh we're
2:09:02not able to use it because of the north
2:09:03south metro. So being able to uh pivot
2:09:07to be able to use it to upgrade our
2:09:09transit uh in the city of St. Louis to
2:09:11bus rapid transit is what we're asking
2:09:13voters to do. So before I adopt the
2:09:15committee substitute, I will take any
2:09:17questions uh from the committee or
2:09:20comments.
2:09:21>> Thank you. I think because the committee
2:09:23substitute is appearing and this is a
2:09:25new committee substitute that's
2:09:26appearing today. We do need to move to
2:09:29suspend the rules in order to put that
2:09:30in front of us and then we can move to
2:09:32adopt the committee substitute. So I
2:09:34will accept a motion at this time to
2:09:37suspend the rules.
2:09:38>> Actually first you have to have voting
2:09:40on the prevailing side to reconsider.
2:09:42You don't you don't want to you're not
2:09:43doing it.
2:09:43>> I don't know that we're going to go that
2:09:45route. Okay. Uh I think we're just going
2:09:47to adopt the new committee substitute
2:09:48which will then replace the previous
2:09:51committee substitute. Uh so but because
2:09:53this is a new committee substitute
2:09:54coming less than 24 hours uh before the
2:09:57meeting I think we need the rules do
2:10:00that. So um at this time I'd take a
2:10:02motion to suspend the rules uh to adopt
2:10:06uh committee substitute for board bill
2:10:0859.
2:10:09>> So moved.
2:10:10>> Second.
2:10:12>> Madam clerk. All right. It's moved by
2:10:13the alder one from the seventh. Seconded
2:10:15by the alderman from the six. Madam
2:10:17clerk, would you please call?
2:10:19>> Alderwoman Sier
2:10:21>> I.
2:10:22>> Vice Chair Browning.
2:10:24>> I.
2:10:24>> Alderwoman Velasquez.
2:10:26>> I.
2:10:27>> Alderman Devote.
2:10:29>> I.
2:10:30>> Chair Aldrich.
2:10:31>> I.
2:10:32>> Five I votes.
2:10:34>> Now with the rules being suspended, I'll
2:10:36accept a motion to adopt the committee
2:10:38substitute for board bill 59.
2:10:41>> So moved.
2:10:42>> Second.
2:10:43>> Okay. Moved by the alderman from the 7th
2:10:46uh seconded by the alderman from the
2:10:48sixth.
2:10:49>> Previous role
2:10:50>> call previous role from the alderman
2:10:52from the 14th hearing. No objection. The
2:10:55committee substitute for board bill 59
2:10:57is now in front of us.
2:10:59>> Thank you. Uh Mr. Chairman, make sure
2:11:01that we're down eyes and crossing our
2:11:03tees and doing it right. And I open up
2:11:05for any question. Uh committee
2:11:07substitute to board bill 59.
2:11:09>> Thank you. We'll go through the
2:11:10committee. Aldo one s
2:11:12>> I don't have any questions. I just
2:11:13really would like to thank uh you know
2:11:15the folks from CMT, Mr. Oggov, um all of
2:11:19the folks who have just participated in
2:11:20this process and helped us to get this
2:11:23far and the committee for participating.
2:11:26I think it's um you know really
2:11:27important that we get this moving and
2:11:29get this going so we can start the other
2:11:31part of the process which is making that
2:11:33we about what this is. So no questions
2:11:36just thank you for your work alderman
2:11:38and thank you for everybody for their
2:11:39work.
2:11:41>> Thank you. Although one Vasquez,
2:11:44>> thank you. I have no questions. I just
2:11:45want to echo my thanks uh for the
2:11:47sponsor for um being, you know, willing
2:11:50to make these changes because it is
2:11:52important and obviously it's something
2:11:53that affects every city resident. And
2:11:55madam clerk, I would like add it as a
2:11:56co-sponsor.
2:11:59>> So noted alderman devote
2:12:03>> I don't have any questions. Uh I would
2:12:05uh also join and I think uh the work
2:12:08that was done today is excellent
2:12:11evidence of partnership and what can be
2:12:13achieved when folks listen for the
2:12:16betterment of putting a fair question
2:12:17before the voters uh very very soon. And
2:12:21madame clerk if you would also add me as
2:12:23co-sponsor.
2:12:24>> So not
2:12:27>> thank you. Um I I'll ask a couple
2:12:29questions just for clarity so that
2:12:30everyone can know um why these changes
2:12:33are are being made. Uh so the the new
2:12:37language that's now in front of us uh
2:12:39leaves open the opportunity for these
2:12:43funds that have been collected via this
2:12:45economic development tax. The half cent
2:12:48sales tax 60% of it goes towards
2:12:51Metroink transit. Uh in the original
2:12:54language back in 2017, that language
2:12:56said north south Metroink. It was not
2:12:59clear that it was able to be applied to
2:13:01bus rapid transit. Uh this new language
2:13:05is asking the voters for authorization
2:13:08to be able to use uh that previous
2:13:12amount that was collected towards
2:13:14Metroink transit and use it for bus
2:13:17rapid transit. not just the construction
2:13:20of it but also the operation of it to
2:13:23make sure that it is successful. Uh
2:13:25we're not asking at this time to fund
2:13:27other metro services uh or other transit
2:13:31services. This is really oriented
2:13:33towards authorizing the taxes already
2:13:37collected and any future tax being
2:13:39collected uh to be able to go towards
2:13:41bus rapid transit. Does that sound
2:13:43accurate? Alderman,
2:13:44>> you're 100% correct. And I think uh
2:13:47that's why this language is a little
2:13:50better than the language that we adopted
2:13:51earlier that it's very clear that this
2:13:54goes to BRT, not to any other services
2:13:57um that Metro may operate, but this is
2:14:00for the construction and operation for
2:14:01BRT. Yes, sir.
2:14:03>> Thank you. And I also having been part
2:14:05of that discussion want to emphasize
2:14:07that the changes were made so that this
2:14:09question could be made as clear as
2:14:11possible to voters. Uh this is not
2:14:13intended to confuse anybody or pull one
2:14:16over on anybody. We certainly want
2:14:18people to know what they're voting for.
2:14:20And so the effort over the next several
2:14:22months is going to be to educate people
2:14:24about what BRT or bus rapid transit is,
2:14:28how it is beneficial to our city. I've
2:14:30talked about it before uh at this
2:14:33committee of of what a fan I am. I've
2:14:35ridden it in other cities. It is not
2:14:38like a regular bus. It has dedicated
2:14:40lanes, signal prioritization, a
2:14:42different bus vehicle. Uh it very much
2:14:45is like a rail line on wheels. And so it
2:14:49is uh much cheaper to build in the way
2:14:52that we will be able to offer a premium
2:14:55transit service for our residents that
2:14:58will connect our city like it has never
2:15:00been connected before. uh and allowing
2:15:02people to traverse north south across
2:15:05our city and connect to the existing
2:15:07metro link line that goes east west. So
2:15:10this is a huge step forward for our
2:15:12city. Uh it's something I believe in
2:15:14doing because it is better to have some
2:15:16transit than no transit at all and I
2:15:20would also like to be added as a
2:15:21co-sponsor.
2:15:22>> So not with that uh we'll now see if we
2:15:26have any public comment on this bill. Uh
2:15:29so uh madam clerks, is there anyone from
2:15:32the public signed up to testify on this
2:15:33bill?
2:15:34>> We have not.
2:15:35>> Thank you. And with that, alderman, you
2:15:37are recognized to close.
2:15:40>> Thank you. Um
2:15:43uh ultimately I want to first say uh I
2:15:46think uh Vice Chair Browning you kind of
2:15:48hit uh the nail on the head of how this
2:15:51is an opportunity uh to bring a transit
2:15:54service uh to the city that we currently
2:15:56don't have and really be able to move
2:15:58people quicker throughout the city. Um
2:16:00being able to have rapid buses to get
2:16:02them to work or from home or wherever
2:16:04they're trying to go. Um, and it's very
2:16:06clear what this tax is used for and that
2:16:09was due to the work of this committee. I
2:16:11take a playbook out of alderwoman Clark
2:16:13Hubert's uh saying you know the
2:16:14committee is where it happens and um due
2:16:17to uh the alwoman from the sixth
2:16:20alderman from the ninth alderoman from
2:16:22the seventh and alderman from the fifth
2:16:24as well as advocates I think we have a
2:16:26much better stronger clear and precise
2:16:29bill that uh we can put in front of
2:16:31voters. Currently right now we are
2:16:33collecting uh this uh this sales tax um
2:16:37and we know with uh the makeup of the
2:16:40metro link it would be uh the north
2:16:42south metro line it's a lot more
2:16:43expensive. We don't have the players in
2:16:46the federal government right now, but we
2:16:47do know um this BRT is very similar. I
2:16:50think said it's like a bus on rail. Uh
2:16:53and being able to uh start with this one
2:16:56line and expand out to make sure that we
2:16:59have more uh rapid buses throughout the
2:17:01city, I think is a good start. So, um I
2:17:04I'm very grateful and thankful for the
2:17:06work that was put in and the
2:17:07collaboration that was today uh to get
2:17:10the language as simple as possible to
2:17:12put in front of the voters uh to
2:17:13hopefully that they vote yes u and and
2:17:16be able to start to bring an additional
2:17:19uh major uh upgrade to our transit
2:17:21system in the city of St. Louis. So, uh
2:17:23thank you all. With that, uh I would
2:17:26just ask for a due pass recommendation
2:17:27on board bill 59 committee substitute.
2:17:31Thank you. I'll accept a motion at this
2:17:33time to pass board bill 59 committee
2:17:36substitute out of committee with a pass
2:17:37recommendation.
2:17:38>> So moved.
2:17:39>> Second.
2:17:40>> It's moved by the other one from the
2:17:42seventh. Uh seconded by the alderoman
2:17:44from the sixth.
2:17:46>> Previous role.
2:17:47>> Hearing a call for previous role from
2:17:49the other one from the sixth. And
2:17:51hearing no objection. Board bill 59
2:17:53committee substitute has now been passed
2:17:55out of committee with a due pass
2:17:56recommendation. Congratulations,
2:17:58Alderman, and thank you all to have
2:17:59worked uh with us on this. I want to
2:18:02echo my colleagues and appreciating the
2:18:05uh collaborative teamwork today to make
2:18:07sure that we could get this right and
2:18:09ready to send to voters.
2:18:16>> I don't know. Did you say board bill 59
2:18:19committee substitute as amended?
2:18:22>> It's just board bill 59 committee
2:18:24substitute, not as amended.
2:18:27Committee substitute too.
2:18:29>> It just board bill 59 committee
2:18:31substitute.
2:18:32>> Okay. Thank you.
2:18:34>> It's a new committee. It's not the same
2:18:36committee substitute at from the
2:18:37beginning of the meeting.
2:18:38>> Yes. The new committee substitute uh
2:18:40replaces aute and the amendments that we
2:18:43adopted. Um so this is the new committee
2:18:47substitute.
2:18:48>> Thank you. And also I do want to thank
2:18:50uh if I didn't say thank you to Metro
2:18:52but also to staff members of Alders who
2:18:56also um was pulling this together. Huge
2:18:58shout out to Dominic Lewis for my office
2:19:01uh that made this happen of the language
2:19:04uh make sure it was correct and also to
2:19:07uh Gindia and the president office.
2:19:10There's been a lot of players to get us
2:19:12here. So huge thank you to everybody. Um
2:19:15next item on the agenda is resolutions
2:19:17for review. We do not have any. We do
2:19:19have any committee discussion. Madam
2:19:21clerk, do we have any acknowledgement or
2:19:23written testimony?
2:19:24>> We have none.
2:19:25>> Uh announcements. I do have one
2:19:28announcement. This Thursday, tomorrow,
2:19:32uh there will be an open house uh at the
2:19:34Polish Heritage Center, which is 1413
2:19:38North 20th Street, um where they will be
2:19:41talking about um uh BRT, another
2:19:44opportunity that they're out in the
2:19:45community. It'll be from 5:00 to 7:00 uh
2:19:48for people to show up to be able to
2:19:50learn about what uh BRT is and to get
2:19:53input uh on how this is potentially uh
2:19:57or what it will look like from the
2:19:59design phase and provide feedback um to
2:20:02the team on the BRT process. So again,
2:20:05that is uh tomorrow at the Polish
2:20:08Heritage Center, 1413 North 20th Street.
2:20:10I'll be there because it's great or the
2:20:12mighty 14th ward from 5 to 7. Is there
2:20:15any other announcements?
2:20:18Seeing none, all members was present.
2:20:20I'll make a motion to adjurnn.
2:20:23>> A second.
2:20:25>> Uh all in roll.
2:20:27>> It was made by the chair of the 14th to
2:20:30adjurnn. Second by the alderman of the
2:20:32ninth call for previous row. See no
2:20:34objection. We are journ.
2:20:37>> We did it.