2026-09-30 - Public Infrastructure and Utilities Committee

Summary

  • Michael Browning chaired, with Anne Schweitzer as vice chair, and Pamela Boyd, Shameem Clark Hubbard and Matthew Devoti present, plus Jami Cox Antwi. The September 23 minutes were approved 6-0 by roll call.
  • Board Bill 85: a donation letter and quitclaim deed moving about 1,300 square feet of land owned by the St. Louis water division, at the edge of a county park beside Olive Boulevard (State Route 340), to the Missouri Department of Transportation for a sidewalk accessibility project; most of the strip is already in the state right-of-way, so the city would give up only about 250 square feet. A city counselor's office attorney presented. Jami Cox Antwi asked whether the city charter's rule requiring a public vote to dispose of park land applied, and the chair held the bill so the legal question can be checked first. All members voiced support for the project itself. One public speaker used the comment time to ask about expediting train crossing repairs rather than the bill, and the chair offered to follow up by phone (Board Bill 85 MoDOT Land Donation).
  • Board Bill 64: sponsored by Alisha Sonnier, it directs the permanent closure with planters of the 2600 block of Oregon Avenue at Pestalozzi Street, near Gravois Avenue and a gas station. She said the location was chosen with the Streets Department after a walkthrough, signage is requested, the fire department and the director of public safety were asked about emergency access, and she had not yet spoken with the police district captain. Members discussed Gravois traffic and the risk of drivers turning in and reversing. A neighborhood association president's letter read into the record said residents have sought the closure since 2018 and described wrong-way traffic and safety concerns. The committee voted 6-0 to pass it with a do-pass recommendation (Oregon Avenue Street Closure (BB 64)).
  • Announcement: the chair will ask the sheriff's department, on October 7, to address the committee on resolving the train horn issue caused by non-compliant crossings (Railroad Quiet Zone Suspension and Train Horn Compliance). The meeting adjourned without objection.

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00:08Good afternoon. This is the public

00:09infrastructure and utilities committee

00:11meeting. It is Wednesday, September

00:1330th, the last day of September. Um,

00:16Madame Clerk, would you please call

00:18roll?

00:19>> Alderwoman Alderwoman Boyd,

00:22>> present.

00:23>> Alderwoman Clark Hubard,

00:26Vice Chair Schwitzer,

00:27>> present. Alderman Devote

00:31>> present.

00:32>> Alderwoman Cox Anti

00:36Chair Browning

00:37>> present.

00:39>> Alderwoman Clark Huard. Alderwoman Cox

00:41Anti. We have four present. We have a

00:43quorum.

00:44>> Thank you so much. Uh with that, uh

00:47we'll move on to approval of the

00:49minutes. I'll accept a motion to approve

00:51the minutes from September 23rd, 2026.

00:58I I do need

00:59>> I move to I move to approve the minutes

01:03from what' you say September the 26th

01:07>> minutes were from the 23rd

01:08>> 23rd from September 23rd 2026

01:14>> second.

01:16>> Thank you. It was moved by the

01:17alderwoman uh from the 13th and seconded

01:21by the alder woman or the alder man from

01:23the 5th. Um, Madame Clerk, please call a

01:26roll.

01:26>> Alderwoman Boyd,

01:28>> I.

01:29>> Alderwoman Clark Hubard,

01:31>> I.

01:31>> Vice Chair Schwitzer,

01:33>> I.

01:34>> Alderman Devote,

01:37>> I.

01:37>> Alderwoman Cox Santo,

01:40>> I.

01:41>> Chair Brownie,

01:42>> I.

01:42>> We have six eye votes.

01:44>> Excellent.

01:46Uh, with that, we're going to move on to

01:47the next item on our agenda, which is

01:48board bills for review. Uh, we have two

01:51board bills for today. not seeing the

01:53sponsor for board bill 64 uh yet. I will

01:57go ahead and skip down to item number

01:58two uh which is board bill number 85.

02:02With that, I'm going to pass the

02:03chairmanship to my vice chair, Alder One

02:06Schweitzer, and uh we'll go from there.

02:10>> Thank you, Chairman Browning. You are

02:11recognized on board bill 85.

02:30Thank you so much. Um, so board bill 85

02:34is a simple uh donation letter and quick

02:39claim deed uh which is moving a piece of

02:42property that is currently owned by our

02:44St. Louis water division over to the

02:47Missouri Department of Transportation.

02:49Uh the Missouri Department of

02:50Transportation has a project on this

02:52land. Uh but it is currently owned by

02:54the city and uh it is not a piece of

02:56land to my understanding that the city

02:58needs anymore. Uh but to speak on this

03:01more, we do have somebody from the city

03:03council's office. Uh and um I invite

03:06them up to speak as my speaker at this

03:08time. Please introduce yourself and your

03:10title and uh say what you

03:13>> Thank you for coming.

03:14>> Thank you, Chair Browning. My name is

03:16Patrick Patterson. I'm a an attorney

03:17with the city councelor's office. Um uh

03:21thank you to the members of this

03:22committee for the opportunity to speak

03:23on this bill. Um essentially the city

03:26owns a piece of land in the county um

03:29that's known as Stacy Park. Uh most of

03:32that we lease to the city of Alvette to

03:34use actually as a park. Um, but the

03:37water division also has a large

03:39reservoir there that, pardon me, it has

03:42about a hund00 million dollars of

03:43treated water that's used uh in

03:46conjunction with the uh Howard Ben

03:47treatment plant. And um

03:51the north edge of that park is uh Olive

03:54Boulevard, which is also State Route

03:56340. So it's owned and operated by uh

04:00the Missouri Department of

04:01Transportation, MDOT. and MDOT reached

04:04out to us about a project they wanted to

04:06do on the very northeast corner of Stacy

04:08Park um to essentially improve the

04:12sidewalks to make it more accessible to

04:14wheelchair users uh which is something I

04:16think we can all support um and uh the

04:20water division reviewed this determined

04:22that they don't actually use that piece

04:24of the land um it would be about the

04:27total amount of deed that we'd be doing

04:29would be about 1,300 square ft But much

04:32of that is already in the MoDOT ride

04:35ofway, so we'd really only be giving up

04:37about 250 ft. Um, and so they asked if

04:41they could have an easement. We said,

04:43you know what, we'd rather just not own

04:44this at all. Um, let's go ahead and do

04:47this as a deed. They said, great, let's

04:49do that. Uh, they first suggested a

04:50warranty deed. Uh, we suggested a quick

04:53claim deed, which sort of limits the

04:55city's liability more. They were fine

04:56with that. Uh, and so that's how we got

04:58here. Basically, um we're donating a

05:01very small piece of land to a government

05:03entity for the purpose of improving we

05:06accessibility and um taking very little

05:10risk on for the city. I'm happy to

05:11answer questions if that is something

05:13y'all do here.

05:14>> Uh thank you very much. I will move

05:16through members of the committee for

05:18questions starting with Alderman Clark

05:20Hubard or Alderman Boyd. I apologize.

05:25>> Uh thank you. Uh this seems like a very

05:29simple process.

05:31While you were explaining it seemed

05:33complicated, but after you went through

05:36after you went through the lawyer jogle,

05:39it it became really simple. So I think

05:43this would be a good thing, you know,

05:45and to help the city too. Thank you so

05:47much for being here.

05:51>> Thank you, Alderman Clark Hubard.

05:53>> No questions. Thank you for being here

05:54and thank you for the ex really helped.

05:58>> Alderman Devote,

06:03>> I don't have any questions, but

06:05Alderwoman Boyd, thank you for the

06:06chuckle. Uh the I forgot what the

06:10language was, but but the lawyer jumble.

06:13Uh I'm going to adopt that. So, just so

06:15you know, but but uh Mr. Patterson,

06:17thank you for the presentation.

06:21>> Thank you, Alderman Cox. An entry.

06:25Thank you, Vice Chairwoman. Um, I'll

06:27echo my colleagues. I really appreciate

06:29the thorough explanation and overview,

06:30Mr. Patterson. I think you explained it

06:32very well and this does seem like it

06:34makes a lot of sense for the city. So,

06:35no question for me as well.

06:38>> Thank you. Um, I actually do have a

06:40question. You know, I read through the

06:42the bill and it wasn't clear to me that

06:44there was a park involved. We have a

06:46city charter that says we can't sell or

06:49do anything with the park. That's not a

06:50park uh without a city vote. Um, how

06:53does this relate to that?

06:55>> So, this isn't a park within the city

06:58limits. This is a park existing in the

07:00county. Uh, I don't have the text of

07:03article 27 on me. Is that 27 says we

07:06can't do parks

07:07>> article? I'm fairly confident that it's

07:09it's within the city. I can verify that

07:11and uh confirm to you by the end of this

07:13meeting.

07:13>> Yeah, I would I would appreciate that

07:15information. We've had some uh

07:16controvers controversial um bill uh

07:20related to that in the past and I just

07:23want to have a consistent voting record

07:24on this topic. Um and um I would like to

07:29to have the answer to to that whether

07:31this would have technically required a

07:33vote. Um all right, any any further um

07:39any any is there any public comment?

07:43>> We have none. Okay. I would like that

07:47information before I vote. It's

07:49>> Sorry, someone just raised their hand.

07:50>> Okay, fantastic. Um, if you are a member

07:53of the public here to testify,

07:56please turn your camera on.

08:05>> Can't see you quite yet. Let's see.

08:08>> Hello. Can you guys hear me?

08:09>> We can hear you, but not see you.

08:11Fantastic. Do you mind raising your

08:13hand?

08:14Hi. Hi. You guys can hear me?

08:16>> Yes. Raise your right hand. Do you swear

08:18to tell the truth, the whole truth, and

08:19nothing but the truth?

08:21>> Absolutely.

08:22>> Okay. You have three minutes. Please

08:24proceed.

08:25>> And state your whole name, please.

08:27>> Thank you.

08:27>> Tommy Oanasi.

08:29>> All right. Please proceed.

08:31>> Thank you for having me in a meeting

08:33about public infrastructure to discuss

08:35the most important issues impacting St.

08:38Louis's public infrastructure. And I

08:40just want to summarize the two bills

08:41that you guys have been bringing up here

08:43to make sure I'm staying on topic. And I

08:45know, you know, this is an important

08:46meeting, so I want to kind of make sure

08:48I stay on topic. Um, one is about

08:50closing a random street in the city. And

08:53the other is about executing a donation

08:55letter and a quick claim deed in St.

08:57Louis County. These seem like super

08:59important bills, like the most important

09:02issues that everyone in the city is

09:03talking about. Like there's one public

09:05relations issue going on right now the

09:07committee for public public

09:09infrastructure should care about. It's

09:10absolutely these two bills. So can any

09:13of you tell me why these bills are more

09:14important than passing a bill to

09:16expedite the train crossing repairs,

09:18getting additional funding, and cutting

09:19red tape?

09:28>> Are you finished with your comments?

09:32Yeah, I mean I'd just like to hear from

09:33from you guys.

09:34>> Thank you. I appreciate that. Um this is

09:37a time for a comment on board bill

09:39number 85. We generally don't do back

09:42and forth question and answer. Um but

09:44I'm happy to if you want to provide your

09:47your phone number to the clerk to give

09:48you a call after this meeting and uh

09:50answer any questions I can about about

09:52that and provide you any information

09:54that I can. I appreciate you coming to

09:56comment today.

09:58No, I mean I just really like to hear

10:00from you guys like obviously these bills

10:01are really important. You know there it

10:04seems like um you know my real question

10:06here is will you cut red tape to make it

10:08easier for contractors to bid permit and

10:10work on these crossings? Will you

10:11expedite the timeline? So this has been

10:13done mid December but much sooner and

10:15will you hold yourselves accountable to

10:16that timeline? Is anybody here willing

10:19to do that?

10:19>> As I as I said this is a time for

10:21commenting on specific bills. I

10:23completely understand the frustration

10:25and why you've come to speak on this

10:27today, but it is not uh the appropriate

10:29time to do so. So, if you would like to

10:30put your phone number in the chat for

10:32the clerk, I'm happy to give you a call

10:33after the meeting. Thank you for your

10:35comments.

10:36>> All right. Also, Chairman Browning, you

10:38are recognized again on board Bill 85.

10:43>> Uh thank you. So, um, while we try to

10:46figure this out, uh, I was going to

10:48recommend that maybe we go into a short

10:50recess while we're looking into issue.

10:53Plus, we have another bill on the

10:54calendar. Sponsor isn't here yet. So,

10:57>> sure.

10:57>> If uh the committee members don't mind,

10:59is a 10-minute recess okay with

11:01everybody or do we all have that on our

11:03>> We need a a motion. So, Oh, we have our

11:06alderwoman. Look at that timing.

11:08>> We'll we'll put this on the calendar and

11:10then we'll uh let the other uh alder

11:12woman go. So,

11:12>> thank you. I appreciate you taking my

11:14question so seriously, Alderman. Um, all

11:16right. I'll pass the chairmanship back

11:18to you.

11:29>> Okay.

11:31Alan, Sier, you are recognized on board

11:34bill number 64.

11:36>> Thank you, chairman, members of the

11:39committee. Um, board bill 64 is

11:42something that many of the residents on

11:44this street are awaiting. Um, it is, um,

11:48an ordinance that is directing the the

11:50streets to permanently close, barricade,

11:52or otherwise impede the flow of traffic

11:54on the 2600 block of Oregon Avenue by

11:58blocking the traffic flow from the PLO

12:00street about 124th north, 120 ft north

12:04of the curb um, of line on Oregon. Um

12:07the goal is really if maybe folks are

12:11not as familiar but it's a very busy

12:13intersection very much near Gravo. Um it

12:17has been just an ongoing issue for quite

12:19some time uh for those uh residents and

12:23the president of the Fox Park

12:25Neighborhood Association, Sarah 11,

12:26actually uh sent in some testimony that

12:29I am happy to read for folks just kind

12:32of explaining the busyiness of the

12:34street and why street closure is the way

12:37to go. I have also taken the time to

12:39kind of do an initial assessment with

12:40the streets department. I always go to

12:42the professionals and say, "Hey, like

12:43what do you think is recommended here?"

12:45Um, we explored several options, but

12:47they did deem that street closure was a

12:49viable pathway forward.

12:54>> Thank you. Um, appreciate that

12:56introduction. Uh, we'll go through the

12:59committee real quick to see if anybody

13:01has any questions. Starting with Alder

13:02Boyd.

13:06>> Uh,

13:08>> I have no questions.

13:11>> Thank you. Uh, Alderwoman

13:14uh car covered.

13:16>> No questions. Thank you.

13:18>> Alderwoman Schwitzer.

13:20>> Uh, thank you for bringing this forward.

13:22So, is it the plan to put planters of

13:25some sort or what's the actual closure

13:27plan?

13:28>> Um, well, we preliminary assessment. I

13:30can show you the design. Um, yeah.

13:32Basically like planters without any

13:34vegetation and then we have some artists

13:36that are like paint them and make them

13:38cute.

13:39>> Okay. And it's a two-way street already.

13:41Yes.

13:41>> Okay. And the the neighbor, you said the

13:43neighborhood association was involved,

13:44but how about people on the direct

13:46street?

13:47>> Yes. And I have a letter from and I

13:49think it's in the testimony. I think I

13:50believe I sent it to the clerk from her

13:52from the neighborhood president. Um I

13:54myself and my David went to the street.

13:57Sorry, Mr. Steel. My LA went to the

13:58street to talk to the residents there.

14:00They've been asking for it for a while,

14:02but I wanted to make sure that the

14:03streets department thought it was a good

14:05idea. And so that part took a bit longer

14:07just to make sure that they they wanted

14:08to kind of do a walk through, explore

14:10all the pathways and make closure was

14:12the best. So once we landed there, then

14:14I found the bill. But honestly, the

14:15residents on the street probably have

14:16been asking me since I originally got

14:18elected three.

14:19>> This is something that the the fire

14:21department has already looked at as

14:23well. Is there any concern for three

14:24traffic or anything?

14:25>> Um, yes. Because there's like the way

14:27that the streets angle, there's tons of

14:28other ways that they can go that are

14:30right directly there. Um and I think too

14:32even the fire department obviously most

14:34people who move in a city are aware of

14:35the way that any streets that are near

14:36Grava just deal with a high amount of

14:38like traffic intensious issues in this

14:41particular street. They basically

14:42accelerate down gravel and sometimes

14:45continue to accelerate through this

14:46street but it's in a residential

14:48neighborhood as opposed to gravitate is

14:49much more through main thorough affairs.

14:51>> Sure. It'll be really interesting to see

14:54the amount of street closures that are

14:57recommended as the Gravo plan continues

14:59to come out. Yeah. you know, um with how

15:02many streets end up turning onto Gravo

15:05or where um where these intersections

15:08are, we have so many of those kind of

15:10angled intersections that are so

15:12dangerous. Um and I wonder, it's

15:14interesting to hear you talk about

15:16closing this one because it's just

15:18interesting to think about how much

15:19that's going to either happen or whether

15:21or not people are going to be for it or

15:23against it depending how often they use

15:24the streets to get to Graphway.

15:26>> Yeah. And I I mean I would say it needs

15:29to be a conversation because you know

15:31you know we've had tons of conversations

15:33about Gravaway and the issues and like

15:35in this one what's interesting too is

15:36it's by Gravaway it's also near Quick

15:38Trip. So in addition to dealing with

15:40that like all the traffic and speeding

15:42that happens on Gravaway they have the

15:43little neighborhood street but then you

15:44got a quick trip that's right there. So

15:46that's basically what barricading

15:47through is there be a separation between

15:50this like kind of residential street and

15:52the quick trip because essentially right

15:54now people just speed all the way

15:55through.

15:56>> Sort of envisioning barriers already at

15:58that quick trip. Are there other other

16:00parts of the street blocked off?

16:01>> The barriers are not positioned that

16:03kind of close off the street.

16:04>> Okay. Just to for visibility or

16:07something.

16:07>> Yeah. And to slow down traffic.

16:08>> Okay. But it hasn't worked as well as

16:10you've wanted. So Okay. All right. Well,

16:12thank you and I appreciate the uh

16:14answering my questions. Alderman

16:17Devote.

16:20>> Yes. Thank you, Chair. Alderman, thank

16:23you. Uh thank you for bringing this

16:24bill. Uh you all are much more familiar

16:28with the the study that's going on on

16:30Gravo, but is this I I guess I have an

16:35understanding and this is I I need

16:36education. I have an understanding that

16:39that there is a bunch of development

16:42work going on. Is this premature? Should

16:45we wait for that work to be completed?

16:48>> Um, I would say if this street was a

16:50little bit more closer to the main

16:51thorough of Gravo perhaps, but this is

16:54really a residential street that's more

16:56adjacent to the Quick Trip than as

16:57opposed to Gravoy itself. So like I'm,

16:59you know, obviously Gravo runs a lot

17:01through the seventh floor. So I talked

17:02to them a lot. I've given them a lot of

17:03input. A lot of my residents engage in

17:06that process. Um, I don't think this NP

17:08with anything any Gravo, you know,

17:10anything that's planned with Gravo. I

17:12have talked to the police department. I

17:14talked to the folks at MODOT. Um, they

17:16weren't really even really interested in

17:17this part of the conversation because

17:18it's a residential street. They didn't

17:20feel like it interfered enough with a

17:22fair to really have a role or a feeling

17:24one way or another.

17:27>> Sure. And public safety does come to

17:29mind. Uh, I know that that you mentioned

17:31a discussion with local fire department

17:34or the the the local uh uh engine house.

17:38Uh, what about the the the district

17:40folks? What do the do the police have a

17:43thought with respect to this closure?

17:45>> Um, honestly, I have not talked to

17:47SLMPD. Um, the only conversation that I

17:50had was relevant to SLMPD was just

17:52making sure like it wouldn't stop any

17:53first responder activity. So, I didn't

17:55have any direct communication with SLMPD

17:57outside of just one check-in with our

17:59director of public safety to make sure

18:00that it would not interfere with whether

18:02it's a police car or a EMS truck, you

18:05know, that it wouldn't interfere with

18:06any first responder, you know, transit.

18:09Is is that a a conversation that that

18:13should happen? That is a conversation

18:14with the local captain.

18:16>> I wouldn't mind it. We do talk all the

18:18time and are in communication. So, I

18:20wouldn't I wouldn't mind it. And

18:21honestly, like our police captain in Fox

18:23Park, uh, Mr. Captain Dickerson is very

18:26involved. I'm sure she's like heard of

18:28just the issues. And what I know she's

18:30familiar with as a police officer

18:31honestly is the amount of act the amount

18:32of cars that have been hit on the street

18:34because of people speeding through. You

18:35know, SLMPD unfortunately is very

18:38familiar with a lot of the issues that

18:39come because obviously they enforce the

18:41issues and so a lot of times SLMPD has

18:43been engaged in terms of issues that

18:45come from it being just such horrible

18:47driving on the street. So they are

18:49familiar with that, but I certainly

18:50wouldn't mind like having a conversation

18:51with her specifically about the street

18:53closure.

18:55>> Great. Thank you, ma'am.

18:58>> Thank you, Alderman. Alderwoman Cox.

19:04>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you,

19:05Alderwoman Sonier, for bringing this

19:07bill forward. Um, I know you and I share

19:09Gravoy as well, and we we both share

19:11some of the challenges with residents

19:12speeding and and getting onto the

19:15thoroughare. Um, so I do always

19:16appreciate your work and trying to bring

19:18these types of safety measures forward.

19:20Um, and looking at the board bill, I did

19:23just have a clarification question on

19:24how far up uh the barrier would be from

19:28the exhibit that you attached. It looks

19:30like the barrier is going to be sort of

19:32on Oregon Street and um I believe the

19:36intersection is Oregon and Pestallozi.

19:38So can you just explain maybe more on

19:40sort of where and why you're

19:41strategically positioning the barrier

19:43where you are?

19:44>> Um so Oregon and Pesto Lozi was my ask

19:46and then the specific location was the

19:48streets department suggestion. So I just

19:50had a bunch of constituents like we want

19:52the street clothes, we want to close

19:53here. I went to I said hey we want the

19:55street closed and this was their point

19:57that they pinpoint it. So I can ask them

19:58more specific are I really didn't

20:01challenge them or ask any follow-up

20:02questions. I just said okay works for me

20:04and kind of move forward. Um but I would

20:06imagine that for them I'm sure whatever

20:08assessment they did they just want to

20:09make sure it doesn't interfere. Like I

20:11think the conversation I had with them

20:13they were very interested in making sure

20:14that the residential goal of separating

20:16kind of the commercial part which is the

20:18quick trip and the other activity that

20:19happens separate from the residential

20:21street. And so I think they picked that

20:23location because maybe they think that's

20:24where it's best. Um but it was kind of

20:26picked by the streets department. I just

20:27made a general ask and I let them pick

20:29the point honestly.

20:32>> Okay. Thank you for for that. I I think

20:34that is good to know that they did have

20:36some discretion in that because it does

20:38look like it's kind of not right at the

20:40end of the street, just a little bit

20:41farther up. And I think that street

20:43looking at the map is a oneway. So, I

20:45just wanted to make sure you know all of

20:46that conversation have been coordinated

20:48um and talked through um just because it

20:51is a little bit of a weird end of street

20:53barrier versus kind of what we normally

20:55see. Um, but as always, I appreciate

20:57your thorough um, you know, research and

21:00coordination with the streets

21:01department. So, I have no further

21:02questions on that.

21:03>> Thank you.

21:06>> Thank you. Um, although like the rest of

21:09my colleagues, I'm just trying to get an

21:11understanding of this. Uh, Gravo is a

21:15beast and it is, in my opinion, the

21:18worst road in St. Louis. Um, it is

21:21deadly. it is uh dangerous and uh part

21:25of the problem is is that it is cutting

21:27diagonally through our street grid as if

21:29it doesn't acknowledge that there's a

21:30city around it.

21:32>> Um I totally understand your residents

21:35desire to calm this and the issue at

21:38hand of people zooming off of what is

21:40essentially a highway uh onto their

21:43neighborhood streets. And so I'm uh very

21:46supportive of closing this and uh making

21:49sure that we can um really protect our

21:52neighborhood streets uh from reckless

21:54driving. You also just have a

21:56complicated situation there with a gas

21:57station and all sorts of other kind of

21:59anti-pedestrian um anti- people types of

22:03uses. And so this hopefully will help

22:06you take a step closer. Um, so

22:11in closing the street, um,

22:15is there going to be more of an

22:17indication that that turn won't be

22:19available like or is it just that

22:21because I'm a little worried about where

22:22the barricad's going to be placed that

22:24people might start to turn down and

22:25realize it's closed and then have to do

22:27a dangerous maneuver to reverse course.

22:30>> I've asked for some signage to go along

22:33with this. Now, we know we don't we do

22:35the legislation for the planters and not

22:36the signage. So my hope would be that

22:38that relationship between the signage

22:39just to it because technically the

22:41street is supposed to be a oneway but it

22:42does not operate that way at all because

22:44there's no signage. It honestly does

22:45basically operate as a two-way people

22:47whichever way they feel fit. Um but it

22:50would be my hope that we can get up some

22:51signage on the street to also indicate

22:53that there's you know there's not a

22:54thoroughare here. There's a dead end at

22:56block. Um and I've asked for that to be

22:58in coordination with once you know this

22:59is installed that that signage will go

23:01up quickly. Fingers crossed we know how

23:03that goes in.

23:05>> Oh thank you. That that's helpful. And

23:07um I also just want to say thank you for

23:08working with the streets department on

23:10how to best do this. I do not think all

23:12the people should be in the business of

23:14closing streets. I think that should be

23:16left up to people who really know the

23:18traffic flows how to direct traffic. Um

23:22but in this situation and really all

23:24down gravo, there are a number of

23:26streets I think need to be closed in

23:28order to improve the safety of that uh

23:31street and really restore our street

23:33grid. Uh, but this seems to be very much

23:37in the interest of safety for your

23:38residents and I just really want to

23:40shout that out and say thank you for

23:42looking out for people's safety and

23:44being responsive to their needs.

23:45>> Thank you. And I completely agree with

23:47you. I don't think that these are

23:48decisionly. I don't like being the

23:50person that has to decide on a street

23:51closure. It's taken me some time to

23:53officially file the legislation and I

23:55think I probably got on some of my

23:57constituents nerves with delaying to

23:59department so much and saying, "Hey, I

24:00want to make sure this is good with

24:01them." I know um when I originally did

24:03the walkthrough with streets department,

24:04they were like, "Well, don't you have

24:05the authority to just file a bill? Why

24:07do we have to even do a walkthrough with

24:08the department?" I'm like, "Well, yeah,

24:09I have the authority to file a bill, but

24:10I don't have the expertise to really

24:12know like what greater impacts might

24:13be." And obviously, we're a whole

24:14neighborhood. So, as we make decisions

24:16on street, I want to talk to the

24:17professionals who can make that

24:19determination. So, I completely agree

24:20with you that this is not, you know, I

24:22wouldn't be proposing street closures

24:23willy-nilly. I would never do it without

24:25talking streets department. I really, it

24:27feels a little weird that this is even

24:28kind of under my decision- making

24:30umbrella. So I just tried to work with

24:31the streets department as much as

24:33possible and I think even my

24:34constituents are adjusting to you know

24:36having an alter person that leans so

24:38much on departments and really wants the

24:39expertise and doesn't you know I'm not

24:41going to go around a department unless I

24:43feel like I have a moral reason and in

24:45this case I think they are the right

24:46people to make the determination and

24:48make sure it could go. My initial

24:49concern was actually about paramedics

24:51and like would it impact their flow?

24:53Like I I was kind of concerned about

24:54those things. So I I totally agree with

24:56you.

24:57>> Well well thank you. Thank you. I really

24:58appreciate that. And um with that uh I'm

25:02going to see if there's any public

25:04comment. Madam clerk, anyone signed up

25:06for public comment?

25:07>> We have none.

25:08>> Okay. And uh with that, Alder one,

25:10you're recognized to close.

25:12>> Thank you for closing. Um uh Sarah, if

25:14you're reading, President Leven, um I'm

25:16going to go ahead and read your letter.

25:18She did indicate like she wrote this

25:19letter. She would like it read on

25:20record. Understood. Yes, ma'am. Um, the

25:23residents of the 2600 block of Oregon

25:26Avenue and Avenue requested the

25:28permanent closure of our block at the

25:31intersection with Pestoi Street. This

25:33request stems from years of persistent

25:35traffic and safety concerns that remain

25:37unressed despite prior outreach dating

25:40back to 2018, including a petition and

25:42ongoing pleading with city officials.

25:44Our block is a southbound one-way street

25:47that unfortunately continues to serve as

25:50an informal northbound cutthrough,

25:51frequently used illegally by everyday

25:54drivers, city service vehicles, utility

25:56of trucks, quick trip customers, and

25:58more disturbingly by individuals fleeing

26:00criminal activity. A petition signed by

26:03residents nearly six years ago

26:05documented the following ongoing issues.

26:07Regular illegal northbound traffic

26:09endangering drivers, cyclists, and

26:11pedestrians. frequent near miss

26:13accidents and driver confusion at the

26:15intersection of Oregon and Magnolia. Use

26:18of the street for illicit activities um

26:20including criminal flights and drug use,

26:23drug deals, ineffective traffic calming

26:25measures, shame pots and concrete

26:27barriers that have created additional

26:29confusion without resolving the

26:30underlying issue. While the prior

26:32installation of barriers and signage

26:34were appreciated, these efforts failed

26:36to meaningfully deter wrongway traffic

26:38or improve safety. In fact, the current

26:41street layout often misleads drivers

26:44into believing the street is already a

26:45dead end, promoting prompting a sudden

26:48U-turn that creates further hazards on

26:50Magnolia Avenue. Block in Oregon just

26:52north of Pestoi with a permanent barrier

26:54and adding a stop sign at Magnolia

26:56Avenue would accomplish the following.

26:58Eliminate the ability for drivers to

27:00enter the block illegally from the

27:02south. Prevent high-speed cutthroughs

27:05and reduce the risk of criminal activity

27:07using our street as an escape route.

27:09Improve safety for residents, guests,

27:12and pedestrians, including children and

27:14elderly neighbors. Reduce confusion and

27:16conflict amongst drivers on our block.

27:19Deter criminal activity. Produce a

27:22barrier between the commercial

27:24industrial properties and residential

27:26homes, creating a safer and more

27:28peaceful neighborhood. Thank you for

27:30your time, continued support, and

27:32consideration. We hope that the

27:33committee will vote this forward and

27:35prioritize the project. We have been on

27:37a mission to block the street for nearly

27:39a decade and it can't come soon enough

27:41for our safety. Respectfully, President

27:44Levan.

27:47>> Thank you. With that, I will take a

27:49motion, accept a motion uh to pass board

27:52bill number 64 out of committee with

27:54fast recommend.

27:56>> I'll move second. It's

27:58>> moved by the other one from the 10th,

27:59seconded by the other one from the

28:01first. Madame clerk, please call roll.

28:04Alderwoman Boyd.

28:07I

28:11>> Alderwoman Clark Hubard

28:13>> I

28:14>> Vice Chair Schwitzer

28:16>> I

28:17>> Alderman Devote

28:21>> I

28:24>> Alderwoman Coxentui

28:26>> I

28:28>> chair Brownie

28:29>> I

28:29>> we have six I votes

28:31>> congratulations alder one

28:33>> thank you

28:34>> with that um I'm going to go ahead and

28:38uh just announce that we're going to be

28:39holding board bill 85 for now. Uh and

28:42just in the uh in the interest of

28:46transparency,

28:47uh I'll explain that in the course of

28:50today's hearing, it came up that this

28:52land is part of a public park or

28:55potentially part of a public park that

28:57exists in the county. Uh but

28:59nonetheless, the wording of our charter

29:01references real estate owned by the

29:03city. And so we want to double check

29:05that this is something that we can

29:07legally sell uh and do this necessary

29:11work. Um we we definitely support every

29:14part of the increasing accessibility and

29:17uh the project in general, but we got to

29:19make sure we're doing this right. So in

29:21the interest of being uh consistent and

29:24transparent, we're going to hold this

29:25bill today uh and come back to it at

29:29another date. Uh so with that, we'll

29:32move on to uh resolutions for review. We

29:35have none of those. Not to committee

29:38discussions.

29:39Um Madame Clerk, was there any written

29:41testimony today?

29:45>> There was one written testimony in

29:47support of Bill 64. It's in the Google

29:50Drive

29:51>> and I believe the Alder one read that.

29:53So, we're uh appreciative of that and we

29:56went ahead and did take action on that

29:57today and we're excited to see the

29:59results. Um

30:02do any members of the committee have any

30:04announcements?

30:07Seeing none, I do have one announcement.

30:09Uh I'm going to reach out and sorry to

30:13surprise them but uh on October 7th I'm

30:16going to ask that uh the someone from

30:19the sheriff's department come and

30:20address uh this committee on the action

30:24that's being taken towards resolving the

30:27train horn issue. Um, those of us who

30:30represent wards next to the train tracks

30:33know well that they have been sounding

30:35their horns at all hours of the night.

30:37And this is because uh we have

30:40non-compliant train crossings that the

30:42FTA warned us about years

30:46perhaps decades ago uh but were not

30:48updated until recently when they said

30:51they were going to stop being silent

30:52coming through city and start blowing

30:54their horns at every non-complant

30:55intersection. Uh so this has been a

30:58quality of life issue for residents in

31:01several different wards in the city and

31:03while there is a website and I do want

31:05to make people aware that there is a

31:06website uh that the city hosts that

31:09provides updates on the progress towards

31:11resolving this issue. I'd like to give

31:13the department a chance to come and talk

31:14about uh what is being done and provide

31:19uh estimated timelines for people

31:20because uh people are are literally

31:23losing sleep over this. So thank you

31:25all. Uh really appreciate your time

31:28today and uh all members are present so

31:30there's no need to excuse anybody. If

31:33that I'll take a motion to adjourn.

31:35>> So moved.

31:36>> Second.

31:37>> Moved by the alder one from the first

31:39seconded by the alder one from the 10th.

31:40A call for previous role from the alder

31:42woman from the first. And hearing no

31:45objection we are adjourned.