2026-09-24 - Transportation and Commerce Committee
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- The meeting started about 9:24 a.m. with three members present at roll call (Aldermen Schweitzer and Cox Antwi, and the Chair), and a quorum; two others joined later. Minutes of the July 24, 2026 meeting were approved by roll call, 3-0.
- The only agenda item was Board Bill 51 (committee substitute), presented by the Comptroller's office: it authorizes up to about $500 million in airport revenue bonds and a third amendment to the airport's restated indenture of trust. The airport's financial advisor and co-bond counsel presented.
- Projects: about $375 million of projects, including roughly $91 million for airfield work (such as demolition of a terminal-area structure and runway reconstruction), about $240 million for Terminal 1 and 2 infrastructure enabling the planned consolidated terminal, and about $33 to $34 million for parking and roads. Amounts are tentative. The advisor said about 85 percent of the airline-approved third approval program will have been financed after this issue.
- Financing: the issue is estimated at about $434 million, possibly $450 to $460 million, with about $300 million for new projects and about $75 million to reimburse a subordinate line of credit. Posting of the offering documents was set for October 14, pricing for October 21 and closing for November 4. Figures are preliminary given rate volatility.
- Indenture changes (worked on for about two and a half years): convert the debt service stabilization fund into a rolling coverage account, allow a common debt service reserve fund (or none) instead of one per series, and add flexibility to issue other types of securities. Bond insurers consented two days earlier. The 2026 bonds will be issued under the existing structure via a supplemental indenture; the amended indenture covers later bonds.
- Questions: Alderwoman Schweitzer asked about energy efficiency, alternative energy and drainage in the terminal and road projects, and whether skipping a reserve fund could raise costs for customers; the advisor will report back on efficiency components and costs. Alderwoman Cox Antwi asked about the two exhibits and the supplemental indenture.
- Vote: the committee adopted the committee substitute and then passed it out with a "do pass" recommendation by voice (previous roll).
- The chair noted that bills on the airport director's salary are pending at the Civil Service Commission, whose next meeting is in October. The committee excused an absent alderman and adjourned.
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00:12the Transportation and Commerce
00:13Committee will now come to order. Madame
00:15Clerk, please call the role.
00:19>> Alderman Odenberg,
00:22Alderman Orion,
00:25Alderwoman Schwitzer,
00:27>> present. Alderwoman Coxi
00:30>> present.
00:31>> Chair Conn
00:32>> present.
00:33>> Alderman Odenberg, Alderman Orion, three
00:36present. We have quorum.
00:38>> Thank you, Madame Clerk. And I'll uh
00:40note that we started at 9:24 with a
00:43slight delay. Appreciate everyone's
00:45patience uh while we waited to get the
00:48meeting started here. Um this morning we
00:51have a couple things on the agenda. The
00:54first item on the agenda is the approval
00:55of our meeting minutes from Friday, July
00:5724th, 2026. I'll entertain a motion on
01:01approval of the meeting minutes.
01:03>> I move to approve the meeting minutes
01:04from Friday, July 24th, 2020.
01:07>> Second.
01:08>> It was moved by the alderwoman from the
01:10first, seconded by the alderwoman from
01:11the 8th. That we approve our meeting
01:13minutes from Friday, July 24th. Madame
01:15clerk, please call the role. Alderman
01:17Odenberg,
01:19Alderman Orion, Alderwoman Schwitzer,
01:22>> I.
01:23>> Alderwoman Coxantu,
01:25>> I.
01:26>> Chair Conn,
01:27>> I.
01:28>> Alderman Odenberg, Alderman Ryan,
01:32three I votes.
01:34>> By your vote, you have sustained the
01:35motion of the alderwoman from the first
01:36to approve our meeting minutes. And uh
01:39the next item that we have on the agenda
01:41and the only other item that we have on
01:43the agenda uh for discussion today is
01:46board bill 51. Um board bill 51 is uh
01:50being presented today by the
01:52comprollers's office, Mr. Gavaglia.
01:55Um these are related to bond dentures
01:57for the airport. And so without further
02:01ado, I'll turn it over to Mr. Gavaglia.
02:04>> Okay. Well, thank you Mr. Chairman,
02:06members of the committee. Good morning.
02:08Um, a little bit of housekeeping. We
02:10have co-bound council Karen Jordan,
02:14madame clerk, who is trying to get in as
02:17a presenter. If you see her,
02:22>> Mr. Stinfield.
02:23>> Uh, no, we have actually co-bound
02:25council Karen Jordan is
02:28um I've gotten text message that she is
02:30trying to come in as a presenter.
02:34No, I don't show see her here trying to
02:37get in on the attendee side.
02:39>> Okay. Um then um if you do see her,
02:42would you mind letting her come in at at
02:44some point? Uh but uh this morning um
02:49Mr. Chairman, members of committee, we
02:51have for your consideration board bill
02:5351, committee sub, which is um
02:58authorizes uh the issuance of
03:00approximately up to $500 million in
03:05airport revenue bonds. Uh we also this
03:08bill will also seek to authorize and the
03:11execution of at the third amendment to
03:15the restated indenture of trust which
03:17governs um the airport's indebtedness.
03:21Um we have with us today the airport's
03:26financial advisor Mr. David Senfield
03:29virtually as you can see. Um we also
03:33have with us um in person we have
03:37co-bond council for the proposed bond
03:40sale um Mr. Charles Salsbury with
03:43Salsbury and Associates and if she is
03:45able to make the meeting um our other
03:48co-bond council um Miss Karen Jordan and
03:52she's with the law firm called Dentons.
03:54Um
03:56Mr. Chairman, uh, with your permission,
03:59uh, I'd like to ask Mr. Stenfill to walk
04:03us through a very short presentation
04:05which will go a long way to explaining
04:07the bill.
04:09>> Yeah, please.
04:13>> Is he going to be showing this online
04:15for the
04:16>> He will be sharing his watching.
04:19>> Good morning, Alderman Con, and
04:20distinguished members of the
04:23>> morning and thank you for joining us
04:24remotely. I I know that we had a prior
04:27scheduled meeting that uh ended up not
04:30being heard. Uh and so I I appreciate
04:34your flexibility and being able to be
04:35here.
04:37>> I appreciate you saying that, Alderman
04:40Cohen. And no worries. I enjoyed a uh a
04:43nice evening in St. Louis um on the
04:4615th, which was low pressure because I
04:50didn't have to uh present. So, no
04:53problem at all. Um, I'm just going to
04:55figure out how to make this full screen.
04:58Bear with me one second. I think it's
05:00few
05:02full screen load.
05:05Um,
05:07Alderman Cohen, if you could just let me
05:09know if you can see this.
05:10>> We're able to see it. Thank you.
05:13>> Okay, perfect. So, I'll with no further
05:16ado, I'll jump right in. Again, good
05:17morning, Alderman Cohen and other
05:19distinguished um members of the
05:20committee. Um as well as uh those in the
05:25the crowd today. Um thank you so much
05:27for taking the time this morning for
05:30this presentation. My name is David
05:32Stinfel. I serve as um Mr. Gelia said as
05:35the lead financial adviser for the
05:39airport and I've been in this role for
05:41about 11 years now. My firm, SE William
05:44Shank, uh, covers airports around the
05:47country, um, in the Midwest. Some of the
05:50airport clients that we cover outside of
05:52St. Louis include, um, Kansas City
05:55International, Detroit, um, metropolitan
05:58Wayne County, O'Hare, Midway, uh,
06:02Indianapolis International, um,
06:05Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky, and many
06:07more. We also um own and operate some
06:11airport terminals through an affiliate
06:13of my firm, for example, JFK Terminal
06:15One, which is currently under
06:16construction.
06:18With respect to St. Louis, uh this
06:20upcoming transaction, as you know, will
06:22be the largest transaction in um recent
06:27times for the airport within the past 20
06:29years. It's scheduled to price in mid
06:33October and close in November. Here on
06:36this page, page one, we have just a
06:38highle overview of some of the projects
06:41that the airport are contemplating
06:43completing with the proceeds of the
06:46upcoming issuance.
06:48Um there's estimated to be approximately
06:50about 375 million of projects that are
06:53completed with 91 million being for
06:56airfield projects about 240 million
06:58being for terminal one and two
07:00infrastructure and then about 33 to 34
07:03million for parking and roads and
07:04parking and roads projects. I should
07:07note here that these project amounts are
07:10tentative. As the airlines continue to
07:13operate with the city's airport, there
07:15could be adjustments to project sizes um
07:19particularly as there's inflation and
07:21cost inflation, service inflation across
07:23the country.
07:25So these are indicative numbers.
07:28Turning to page two as part of the
07:32upcoming issuance, an important
07:34component is the modernization of the
07:37senior lean general airport revenue bond
07:39indenture. This page here describes some
07:42of the major changes that are
07:44anticipated
07:45with the modernization of the indenture.
07:48And the indenture is a document that
07:50describes exactly the relationship
07:51between the city/ airport, the trustee
07:56and bond holders.
07:58The changes that we have been working on
08:00for the past two and a half years are
08:02primarily designed to, as you can see at
08:03the top left, lower capital costs for
08:06the airport and the airlines, increase
08:08future financial flexibility,
08:11and to modernize the provisions
08:13throughout the indenture such that they
08:14are consistent with current market
08:16standards across airports of similar
08:18size and scope. The three major
08:21components that are being modernized,
08:22and I won't go through them exactly
08:24today, are um starting on the left of
08:27this table,
08:29changing the debt service stabilization
08:31fund into a rolling coverage account in
08:34the middle of the table, changing the
08:36debt service reserve requirement from an
08:37individual seriesbased requirement to
08:39what's called a common debt service
08:41reserve fund. And then on the far right,
08:45the additional big picture changes
08:46include clarifying technical amendments,
08:49increasing flexibility to issue
08:52different types of securities such as
08:54verb debt or um shorter structures or
08:58sort of federally linked structures and
09:00such and to just modernize terms
09:03throughout the indenture. Moving to the
09:05bottom of the slide, the next steps that
09:07we anticipate
09:09are to um achieve the legislative action
09:12such as today's presentation to the
09:14transportation and commerce committee to
09:16allow for the indenture amendments to
09:17pass. We've uh just two days ago
09:21received also consent from the bond
09:23insurers to move forward with these
09:25indenture amendments
09:27and then finally to effectuate the
09:29actual oper operization of these
09:32indenture amendments uh through a
09:34multi-step process postclosing with the
09:36city and the controllers's office in the
09:38airport.
09:40Turning to page three, we have a highle
09:42overview of the financial results for
09:46the transaction. And I should note here
09:48that there's been a tremendous amount of
09:50volatility since we've started working
09:52on this transaction. As many of you have
09:53seen, the Federal Reserve recently
09:56increased interest rates just last week
09:59and that's been along a long line of
10:02other market moving changes that we
10:04antic that have happened and that we
10:06anticipate to continue happening all the
10:08way through pricing. Saying that, just
10:10to note that these numbers are certainly
10:11preliminary and subject to change. Um,
10:15as you can see here, currently the
10:17transactions estimate to be around 434
10:20million. I anticipate it probably be a
10:22little higher around maybe 450 to 460
10:24million when all said and done based on
10:26changes to rates and project sizes.
10:28Um, most of the proceeds you can see on
10:31the upper right table under the blue row
10:34that's called uses. Most of the uses are
10:36going to the project fund. Those
10:39proceeds will about 300 million will be
10:40used for new projects and then about 75
10:43million will be used to reimburse the
10:45subordinate junior lean PNC line of
10:47credit.
10:49There will be some amount of capitalized
10:51interest as well as funding reserve fund
10:54in the transaction. And on the bottom
10:56graph you can see the actual proforma
10:59impact of the new debt service on the
11:02city's existing debts. The city's
11:04existing debt is shown in light blue and
11:06the new debt is layered on across the
11:09three series in the colors orange,
11:10purple, and blue. You can see that most
11:14of the debt advertises on the long end
11:17and medium-term.
11:19There is some small amount that
11:20advertises between 29 and 31, which is
11:23the peak debt service years of the
11:25city's general airport revenue bonds.
11:29And then finally, just quickly going
11:32through the calendar and participating
11:34firms that are serving the city and the
11:36airport. We're anticipating pricing or
11:39excuse me, posting the preliminary
11:40official statement and the investor
11:42presentation on October 14th.
11:47Shortly thereafter, we anticipate
11:48pricing the bonds on October 21st in St.
11:51Louis
11:53and then uh closing shortly after
11:55election day on November 4th.
11:58And again, the firms that are serving
12:00the airport, many of whom have um worked
12:03with the city and the airport on various
12:07transactions over the year are described
12:09below.
12:11Thank you again for taking the time for
12:13this presentation. I'll pause there to
12:16see if there are any questions or
12:17clarifications that I can provide or
12:19that um my fellow team members that are
12:22serving the city on this transaction or
12:24in the room or on the line can provide.
12:27Thank you.
12:29>> All right. Uh any questions from the
12:32committee?
12:33Alderwoman
12:34>> Schwitzer's
12:36here.
12:37>> Oh, al Ald alderman Oldenberg has joined
12:40us uh virtually. Alderman Oldenberg.
12:43>> Thank you, Chairman. No questions at
12:45this time.
12:46>> Is Alderman Norion online? No. Okay. Uh
12:51Alderwoman Schwitzer,
12:53>> thank you so much. I appreciate the
12:54presentation. Um I'm always really
12:56interested to hear more about the
12:57projects uh that that this is um that
13:01this will be funded. So if we could go
13:03over that page, I believe page one just
13:05a little bit more about what we're
13:06talking about and any difference between
13:08this and bonds that had been issued uh
13:11in 2024 2025 and I believe there were
13:15bonds issued last.
13:20>> That's that's a great question. Thank
13:21you for the question.
13:24Um at a high level what I can describe
13:28is that these projects are part of the
13:31continuum from the 2024 issuance in that
13:35a large portion of them are for enabling
13:38projects for the anticipated
13:40consolidated terminal plan. Um, I can
13:44also note that they're in the same
13:45continuum as the 2024 projects in that
13:48they're part of the third
13:51uh uh approval process with the airlines
13:54that has been negotiated. I think after
13:57this issuance probably about 85% of the
14:01third approval process has been will
14:03have been financed. Um, and there'll be
14:05a small amount remaining that hasn't
14:07been financed. Um, as you can see on
14:10this page, most of the projects that
14:12line share are going to be for both the
14:16terminal one and two again enabling
14:18projects preparing for the CTP. And then
14:21there's a number of airflow projects. I
14:24think the probably the biggest of them
14:26is the demolition of the mowing as well
14:29as the um design and reconstruction of
14:32runway 12 L30R and runway 624.
14:38Okay. Regarding um electrical, power
14:41equipment, lighting, climate control,
14:43plumbing, and um these sound like
14:45incredibly costly projects. Are those
14:48the the most costly in that terminal one
14:50and two infrastructure
14:53>> update?
14:54>> It's a good question, Alman. I'd have to
14:57um do some additional research to come
15:00back to you on the specific
15:03uh amount that's associated with those
15:06components within that project.
15:08>> I'd be very interested in the the
15:09efficiencies of those systems too. um
15:12just with making those sort of upgrades,
15:14wanting to see the airport, you know,
15:16doing this in a way that is um you know,
15:19taking into account uh just efficiency
15:22um the any sort of alternative energy
15:25systems that can be put on with a new
15:28roof. That's something that I would be
15:29very interested in in knowing um in
15:32terms of what the airport plans to do
15:33there for if there such a big investment
15:36is being made wanting it to be the most
15:37efficient and um you know up-to-date
15:40technology possible.
15:44Um, that's a great question, Alderman.
15:45If the committee would allow for it, I'd
15:47love to be able to come back to you with
15:49a report that details the specific um,
15:54you know, power, lighting, climate
15:56control, energy efficiency components
15:59and cost associated with uh, the
16:02terminal project.
16:03>> Yeah, I appreciate that. I think people,
16:06you know, really want to see our
16:09government, you know, owned buildings
16:11and the um when we do these major
16:14upgrades that we're really thinking not
16:16just about the status quo and replacing
16:18it as is, but thinking about making our
16:22our airport, you know, one of the
16:23future. Um so with even in the parking
16:26and roads project um you know if there
16:30if there's work already happening what
16:32kind of work with with MSD with drainage
16:35and um different flooding uh controls
16:38and um just the type of uh
16:41infrastructure that's available now that
16:44could not only make our airport look
16:46better and and be a better uh airport
16:48but also uh just um one that is is
16:52taking into account the you know changes
16:54we need to be prepared for. Um so I'd
16:56love more information about about that.
16:59Um
17:03then regarding um the additional big
17:06picture changes of the indenture says
17:09clarifying and technical amendments. Um
17:13can you go over a little bit more about
17:15what that would mean?
17:18Page two.
17:20>> Yes. I think that's probably a good time
17:22for me to defer perhaps to my colleague
17:25who's in the room, Mr. Charles Salsbury,
17:29who can maybe talk through some of those
17:31changes. Um, and there's there's
17:34numerous ones throughout the indenture.
17:36>> Sure.
17:38>> It's a big thing to to change.
17:41>> Good morning. It's a pleasure to share
17:43this meeting with you all. Um as um
17:47David mentioned earlier, we've been
17:49working on updating the indenture for
17:52about two and a half years.
17:54>> Uh and what we've done is this. We've
17:56taken a look at not only our our
17:59existing indenture, but we've also
18:01surveyed indentures from around the
18:04country so that we could have have at
18:06our fingertips the best models for us to
18:10guide us through this process. Because
18:13what we're trying to do is to create a
18:15document that can look toward the future
18:18and and put the city in a position to
18:21where it can take full advantage of
18:23changes that might occur down the line
18:25in terms of financing techniques. And so
18:28in terms of technical type of of
18:31improvements that we've tried to put
18:33into the into the document, uh for
18:36example, when you issue new bonds, you
18:39have to satisfy certain tests in order
18:41to be able to move forward. Tests that
18:43would include additional bonds tests
18:45that would uh satisfy certain financial
18:49uh covenant compliance and also project
18:52the ability to actually service that new
18:55debt. Uh we have put in place with the
18:58new indenture uh some streamline
19:01approaches that will make it easier for
19:04the airport to be able to finance future
19:06projects but at the same time providing
19:10a great deal of comfort to the rating
19:13agencies and to uh prospective
19:16purchasers of bonds that in fact the new
19:19new bonds will be issued in in a way
19:22that's going to be affordable for the
19:24city and the airport. Uh so uh rest
19:27assured that the indenture that we're
19:29asking you to approve today is one that
19:32is modern that that has been challenged
19:35in other areas of the country. Um uh for
19:38example, we we leaned heavily on on the
19:41the new indenture that's in place in
19:44Atlanta uh that allows the Atlanta
19:47airport to expand and to grow in in a
19:50mean meaningful ways. Um, so, uh, we're
19:53very proud of the product that we've put
19:55out there and, uh, we still have a few
19:58tweaks to make to it before it's it's ab
20:00absolutely finalized, but it is a
20:02document that I think you all will be
20:04proud of and a document that will be
20:06able to move into the future as as as we
20:11propel ourselves forward with this
20:12project and look toward the potential
20:15for the uh, unified terminal.
20:19>> That's that's very interesting. I
20:21thought the the piece also in the the
20:23second column debt service reserve fund
20:25requirement um that a series can be
20:28included the common reserve account to
20:29be secured by its own individual reserve
20:31or have no reserve at all. I thought
20:33that was very interesting. No reserve at
20:35all. Is that unusual?
20:37>> That's a very good question. Um the
20:40short answer is that um we're trying to
20:44come up with flexibility.
20:46>> Okay. Um when you market bonds uh
20:49dependent upon a project uh there are
20:52instances in which the uh the the
20:55prospective purchasers want to see a
20:58debt service reserve fund. There are
21:00instances when purchasers are not as
21:02concerned about that. And what we want
21:04to be able to do is have the flexibility
21:06to put in place a standalone deb reserve
21:10fund or uh if if market conditions allow
21:14not to even have a death service reserve
21:15fund. Uh currently we are with with our
21:19current indenture we can only put in a
21:21series debt service reserve fund. So
21:23each series that we issue will have a
21:25debt service reserve fund for that
21:27series. The other thing about this
21:29common debt service reserve fund that
21:31we're now allowing for going forward is
21:33that it permits us to a to actually size
21:37that debt service reserve fund as bonds
21:39are paid off paid down and and to and to
21:42uh limit the size of of the best debt
21:44service reserve fund which once again
21:46puts the city in a position to where it
21:48will not necessarily have to put uh keep
21:52as as much money in in that fund as it
21:55as it currently does. Uh so uh again
21:58what we're trying to do with the new
22:00indenture is to allow for uh flexibility
22:03and to permit us ourselves to be in a
22:06position to where uh we can take
22:08advantage of of of limiting the amount
22:10of money that the city needs to put into
22:12that. David, did you want to also
22:13comment on that?
22:16>> Yes, thank you so much Charl Charles and
22:18thank you for your question. um
22:20regarding the reserve fund. Um
22:25right, specifically around the uh the
22:29notion of potentially not funding a
22:32reserve fund. uh funding a reserve fund
22:35for revenue bond type issuers like
22:37airports, water, sewer, utilities for
22:39example, enterprise type credits as you
22:42know we call them in the financial
22:43documents
22:45over the long course of history has been
22:48ordinarily a practice that was
22:51considered to be sacrosan which was if
22:54you were going to issue a revenue bond
22:56to fund a project in a city you would
23:00have to fund some sort of reserve fund.
23:03to protect bond holders.
23:06About 15 years ago, the utility space,
23:10which issues a lot more bonds than the
23:12airport space because they're just more
23:14utilities, started to reduce the
23:18requirement to have a reserve fund
23:21associated with the issuance of bonds.
23:24And the reason being is that
23:27utilities like many airports are often
23:30times monopolies and they control their
23:33rate making ability
23:35>> usually through a a a um a board that's
23:39associated not with a municipality but
23:41only with that particular utility. And
23:43the rating agencies came around to say
23:46you know what these utilities haven't
23:48defaulted in mass ever
23:52even for the lower rate utilities and as
23:54such we agree with the notion that a
23:59utility shouldn't need to necessarily
24:00fund a debt service reserve fund and for
24:04utilities debt service reserve fund
24:08uh funding of that utility I mean
24:10funding of that reserve fund came out of
24:12the rate base so rate payers, you know,
24:14mom and pop are paying for it.
24:17That change happened about 15 years ago
24:19and since then utilities have stopped
24:21issuing with reserve funds. The
24:23conversation that's been happening now
24:25with respect to airports is very similar
24:27to the conversation that happened about
24:2815 years ago with utilities in that
24:32large airports that have tremendous O&D
24:36demand or origin and destination demand
24:39meaning they're not primarily serving
24:40connecting passengers
24:43uh that have a strong diversity of
24:45airlines
24:47have started to have this conversation
24:48about the fact that they're rated very
24:51highly. They have extremely strong
24:53liquid liquidity and have extremely
24:56strong demand from passengers.
24:59So who are those airports specifically?
25:02Atlanta Hartsville Jackson International
25:04Airport which is the busiest airport in
25:06the world is now actively having
25:08discussions about eliminating the
25:10reserve fund requirement.
25:13Los Angeles International Airport is
25:14another client of mine who's actively
25:16having discussions currently about
25:17eliminating the debt service reserve
25:20requirement because the thought is that
25:22these airports are so strong in terms of
25:25their passenger demand, their ability to
25:27raise prices
25:29that they may need to they can obate
25:31potentially the need to have a reserve
25:32fund. And typically when I've seen these
25:35changes happen, they happen at the
25:37strongest
25:38issuers and municipal bonds and then it
25:40kind of rolls down through the rankings.
25:43So there could be a we anticipate that
25:46there could be a world in the future
25:49where St. Louis and other airports of
25:51similar size, scope, and mix of airlines
25:56may not need to issue with reserve fund.
25:58It may become antiquated.
26:00and including this provision in the
26:01indenture allows for that to happen
26:03without having to go through another
26:05mandatory a mandatory process. Excuse
26:07me.
26:08>> Sorry for the long explanation, but
26:10that's
26:11>> you you answered my next question within
26:13your answer because my concern was how
26:15how credit rating
26:18view that um and so it seems like it's
26:20becoming more you answered that that
26:22question and I appreciate that. I guess
26:25um whether that's recessionp proof um
26:29you know in terms of the answer then
26:31becomes raising rates and potentially
26:34charging our customers here in St. Louis
26:36more which I don't want to see. Um so
26:38that's that's interesting and I'll be
26:39following that that as it as it moves
26:41through the the the market. So um I'll
26:45yield the rest of my time. I appreciate
26:46all the time you took to answer my
26:47questions both of you. It really means a
26:49lot. Thank you.
26:52Alderwoman Cox.
26:55>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Um, and thank
26:57you both for both the presentation today
26:59and for that additional clarity there,
27:01Mr. Charles, as it relates to the
27:03indenture structures. Um, I do have, if
27:05you don't mind, one quick additional
27:07question though, you a lot of my
27:08questions. Um, in response to Alderwoman
27:11Schweitzer's comments, um, speaking
27:13specifically to the mechanics of the
27:15bill, I know you spoke to, um, the
27:17necessity for the third, I believe it's
27:19the third amendment to the indenture,
27:21which you explained, but I also noticed
27:23that there is a supplemental indenture.
27:25I think there's two exhibits. Exhibit
27:27one relates to that that is specific to
27:29the series 26 bonds issuance. So could
27:31you just maybe explain um the function
27:33of that supplemental indicure and sort
27:36of uh the difference between the two
27:37exhibits we see attached here?
27:40>> Uh thank you for that question. Um we
27:43intend to issue the 2026 bonds under the
27:46existing structure. Uh so uh the amended
27:51and restated indenture that you're also
27:53asked to approve is going to be
27:55something that will cover bonds issued
27:57after the 2026 bonds.
27:59>> Okay. So uh under the existing structure
28:02uh we are required by the existing uh
28:06indenture to uh put forth a supplemental
28:09indenture and that supplemental
28:11indenture will have all the details as
28:14to the bonds the 2026 bonds. uh it will
28:18will have its interest rates, its
28:20maturity schedule uh the uh debt service
28:23reserve fund being created um and would
28:26have a mechanism for drawing down the
28:29funds uh that are uh raised through the
28:31bond issuance. Uh so typically when we
28:35have brought before you uh in the past
28:38bond deals, we've only brought the
28:41supplemental inenture in for approval to
28:44to take care of the the bonds that we're
28:45issuing. The difference here is that
28:47we're not only doing that having a
28:49supplemental indenture for the 2026
28:51bonds, but we're also saying, by the
28:53way, in the future, we'd like to issue
28:55bonds under the uh new structure, which
28:57by the way will also require a
28:59supplemental indenture. So um so in
29:02essence what you're what you're asked to
29:03do is to approve the uh supplemental
29:06indenture to issue the bonds uh for the
29:092026 proceeds uh the discussion that
29:11David took you all through and and then
29:14the uh the amended and restated
29:15indentures is a separate matter that
29:17that is going to be looking toward the
29:19future.
29:20>> Okay. Thank you for clarifying that
29:22distinction and that difference. I think
29:24it's really important just understanding
29:25mechanically how the different two will
29:27function. Um and then also as you shared
29:29the reason for having that third amended
29:32and restated mechanism to make all the
29:34improvements that um you guys shared
29:36with us. So I appreciate that. And I'll
29:37just say for the record too, I echo the
29:39the alderwoman's comments as it relates
29:41to the necessity um and the importance I
29:43think the community feels for all these
29:45improvements and upgrades that the
29:46airport is looking to make. Uh we
29:48certainly look forward to hearing more
29:50about um how we'll utilize these funds
29:52and this flexibility in the future. So,
29:54I appreciate you guys being willing to
29:55take the time to come and speak with us
29:57today and explain it all. So, thank you.
29:59And no further questions, chairman.
30:01>> Thank you very much.
30:02>> Great.
30:04Excellent questions. Uh, and thank you
30:06for the responses as well. Feel like
30:09we're having a bit of a more robust
30:10conversation than we had at the airport
30:12commission around this uh particular
30:14presentation. So, um, thank you very
30:16much. Um, we do have a committee
30:19substitute for board bill 51 that is in
30:22the uh drive and uh I'm sure my
30:27colleagues have already reviewed it. Um,
30:30but would entertain a motion that we
30:33adopt the committee substitute to board
30:36bill 51.
30:37>> I move that we adopt board bill 51 with
30:40the committee substitute.
30:42>> Second.
30:45Madame clerk, please call the role.
30:48>> Alderman Oldenberg.
30:50>> I.
30:52>> Alderman Norion.
30:54>> Alderwoman Schwitzer.
30:56>> I.
30:56>> Alderwoman Coxantu.
30:58>> I.
30:59>> Chair Conn.
31:00>> I.
31:01>> Alderman Norion. Four I votes.
31:05>> Thank you. With your vote, you sustain
31:07the motion of the alderwoman from the
31:08ETH uh which was seconded by the
31:10alderman from the first. Madam clerk, I
31:12forgot to reference that in my earlier
31:14remarks. Um,
31:16and we have now before us board bill 51,
31:19committee substitute.
31:21Um, is anyone from the controllers's
31:24office wanting to testify uh regarding
31:28the committee substitute?
31:31>> No, Mr. Chairman, all we uh will pledge
31:33to do is get back to you as can
31:36regarding the questions um and the
31:39answers. We'll have to go to the airport
31:40to get the details from Alderman
31:43Schwitzer's questions, but we pledge to
31:44get that to you as soon as possible.
31:46>> Thank you.
31:47>> Wonderful.
31:49Any further discussion or questions
31:52regarding board bill 51 committee
31:54substitute? Alderman Oldenberg.
32:00>> No questions. Thank you, Chairman.
32:01Thanks for everyone's time today.
32:04>> Alderwoman, is Alderman Nyan on yet? No.
32:08Uh, Alderwoman Schwitzer,
32:10>> no further questions. Thank you.
32:12>> Alderwoman Coxantu.
32:14>> No questions. Chairman, thank you.
32:16>> All right. Uh, if there's no further
32:18discussion on board bill 51, committee
32:20substitute, I'll entertain a motion on
32:22board bill 51, committee substitute.
32:24>> I move that we pass board bill 51,
32:26committee substitute, with the due pass
32:27recommendation.
32:28>> Second previous role. It's been moved by
32:30the alderwoman, seconded by the
32:33alderwoman from the first uh that we
32:35pass board bill 51 out 51 committee
32:38substitute out with a due pass
32:39recommendation. There's been a request
32:40for previous role. Any objection to
32:43previous role
32:45hearing and seeing none board bill 51
32:48committee substitute passes out of
32:49committee with a due pass recommend.
32:51>> Thank you Mr. Chairman, members
32:52committee. Appreciate your time today.
32:54>> Thank you.
32:58look forward to the responses. Um,
33:01we don't have any further items for
33:05review on the agenda. I do want to just
33:08make note that um
33:12there are a couple board bills that were
33:14introduced related to the salary for the
33:16airport director. Those are currently
33:19pending over with the civil service
33:20commission. So, we are waiting for their
33:24review and um approval before moving
33:27forward with a hearing on those. Um
33:30their next meeting is in October, so I
33:32don't anticipate any movement on those
33:34until then. Um but we'll keep everyone
33:37apprised uh once we do get uh word from
33:40the personnel director, civil service
33:42commission with respect to those. Um and
33:45then I know we have a few other bills
33:47that are out there. So, I'll be meeting
33:48with the sponsor of the bills to uh see
33:51if they have any interest in having
33:52hearings on those. Other than that, it
33:55looks like we need to excuse the
33:56alderman from the fourth for necessary
33:58absence.
34:00And we'll entertain a motion to adjurnn.
34:05>> I move that we adjourn.
34:07>> Second role.
34:08>> It's been moved by the alderwoman from
34:10the eth, seconded by the alderwoman the
34:12first that we adjourn. There's been a
34:14request for previous role. Is there any
34:15objection to previous role?
34:18hearing and seeing none we stand
34:20adjourn. Thank you everyone.
34:22>> You
34:23>> Thank you.