2026-09-29 - Pre-Council

00:00Ms. Lisa Carol.

00:01>> This is the pre-meeting of the Mobile

00:02City Council Tuesday, September the

00:0429th. We have approval of minutes from

00:06September 22nd.

00:08>> Any issues, anyone?

00:10Okay.

00:11>> Appeals, request for waiver of the noise

00:13ordinance on October the 4th

00:16at um

00:17Conti Conception and Dauphin Streets

00:21from 2:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m.

00:23October the 10th on Dauphin Street from

00:267:00 p.m. until 11:00.

00:29October the 5th through the 9th on

00:31Dauphin Island Parkway from 7:00 p.m.

00:33until 10:00 p.m. May the 1st from 9:00

00:37a.m. until 12:00 p.m. in Langan Park.

00:40>> Any issues, anyone?

00:42Okay.

00:44>> Presentation of petitions and other

00:45communications to the council.

00:48>> Mr. President.

00:49>> Uh yes.

00:49>> If we could change um

00:52the one on Dauphin Street to 10:00 p.m.

00:56>> October 10th?

00:58>> I'm sorry. Yes, October the 10th.

01:00>> [clears throat]

01:01>> Okay.

01:04>> Presentation of petitions and other

01:05communications to the council, Randy

01:07Reed regarding retiree insurance and the

01:09true cost of being placed on Medicare,

01:11Mary Walker um regarding ambulance

01:14service at Theodore fire station on Old

01:17Military Road, Sabrina Mass, citizen's

01:20concern about a

01:22city council representative asking MPD

01:25or ED public safety to break policy

01:28protocol.

01:29>> [gasps]

01:30>> Dr. Cindy Gibson, Alta Point Health um

01:33providing details of a recent incident

01:35involving MPD.

01:38Ordinances held over 83044,

01:42an ordinance approving de-annexation of

01:44certain described land and redefining

01:47proposed reduced corporate limits.

01:49>> Councilman Woods, anything?

01:50>> Uh yes, I just wanted um thank the

01:52mayor. Obviously, the mayor came on um

01:54on this one as well. Um and again, this

01:56is a weird situation um, where it's just

01:59split jurisdiction. So, that I think

02:01this thing's been flushed out a little

02:02bit over the past couple weeks.

02:04That's it, Mickey.

02:05>> Yeah.

02:0864045

02:10consider a modification of a previously

02:11approved planned unit development for

02:13property located at Mobile Infirmary

02:16Circle, Mobile Infirmary Drive, and

02:19Mobile Infirmary Boulevard, and

02:21Springhill Avenue.

02:2564046 consider proposed rezone of a

02:28property located at the west side of

02:30Weinacker Avenue 150 ft north of

02:33Virginia Street from R1 to R2.

02:3664047

02:38consider an ordinance to amend the

02:40entertainment district boundaries

02:42established under section

02:4430-13A

02:47of the code of ordinances of the city of

02:49Mobile to expand the entertainment

02:50districts 1 and 3.

02:52>> Any comments on number one?

02:55>> Okay.

02:55>> CIP resolutions held over 211006

02:59authorized contract from McQuary

03:01and Williams for CIP Halls Mill

03:04and Demetropolis Roadway.

03:09Resolutions held over 081018 approved

03:12purchase order to Vision Southeast

03:14Companies for building access control

03:16system for Hurtel Street.

03:19081019

03:21approved purchase order to Truck

03:22Equipment Sales for Chevrolet truck

03:25dual rear wheel utility body.

03:29211023

03:31authorize agreement with Arrington Curb

03:33and Invac Excavation

03:35for the fire training center

03:37improvements.

03:40Consent resolutions being introduced

03:42031026

03:45appoint Allison Milton to the Citizens

03:47Park and Recreation Advisory Committee.

03:52371027

03:531028 2020

03:56are recommending approval to the ABC

03:58board for issuance of a retail beer

03:59table wine off premises only license for

04:01Mapco at 29 Mapco 290 at 4126 Moffett

04:07Road Suite C.

04:09With issuance

04:10of a retail beer table wine off premises

04:14only license to Casey's 4818

04:172704

04:20Springhill Avenue.

04:23And for issuance of a special events

04:25retail license for Gulf Coast Challenge

04:28Virginia Street.

04:3158 1030 authorized removal of weeds

04:35group 1682

04:3760 1050

04:40>> [clears throat]

04:41>> approval of water special bonus to

04:42administrative employee of the month

04:4560 1053 determining appropriation to the

04:48National Maritime Museum of Gulf serves

04:51a public purpose and approve payment.

04:54Resolutions being introduced 08 1031

04:57approved purchase orders to Galls LLC

04:59for assorted uniform items.

05:0150

05:02>> Yeah, Mr. Reynolds.

05:03>> Uh

05:04just on this uh

05:06allocation to the National Maritime

05:07Museum. If you might want to do it, this

05:09is your last chance to do it if you want

05:10to use your uh funds from this current

05:13year's budget. So, if you get added to

05:17it, you can make that allocation.

05:20>> I'd like to be added too, if possible.

05:25>> Mr. President, I would also like to be

05:26added.

05:27>> [snorts]

05:29[clears throat]

05:31>> How much are y'all contributing?

05:33>> 5,000.

05:34>> How much?

05:35>> 5,000.

05:35>> 5,000.

05:36>> It's for 5,000 for uh out of

05:38discretionary funds for this year's

05:40discretionary funds instead of getting

05:42in the next.

05:43>> Is it too late to add?

05:45>> Uh

05:45uh anyone else?

05:47>> Go ahead and add me to that too.

05:51Corey?

05:53>> [laughter]

05:56>> We have so many other [laughter] council

05:58members that we haven't responded to.

05:59Corey is

06:01is called out.

06:02>> [laughter]

06:02>> I'm good for right now. Thank you.

06:04>> So amazing.

06:06>> [laughter]

06:08>> Madam Clerk.

06:10>> 081032 approved purchase order to Shay

06:12for Plastics North America for 95 gallon

06:15plastic garbage carts for garbage

06:18collection $46,468.35.

06:21081033 approved purchase order to G.W.

06:24Stewart for installation and 8-month

06:27rental of power supply unit for CBP

06:30screening equipment at the cruise

06:33terminal, $88,200.

06:35>> Mr. President.

06:35>> Yes, Mr. Reynolds.

06:37>> This we're

06:38we're not [snorts] going to be renting

06:39this long-term, are we? I mean, we're

06:42purchasing our own power supply.

06:44>> Yes, just an interrupt because it's

06:46going to be 16 months to get the

06:48continuous power unit

06:50built and then installed.

06:51>> Thank you.

06:52>> Yes.

06:55081034

06:56approved purchase order to Samsara for

06:59setup and subscription for vehicle usage

07:02usage and diagnostic tracking software

07:04and cloud storage services for patrol

07:06vehicles, $84,932.

07:09>> Mr. President.

07:10>> Yeah, Mr. Payne.

07:11>> Um, do we already have a program that we

07:14currently using right now?

07:20>> Good morning. Yes, motor pool does have

07:21Samsara. PD is seeking to do the same

07:24thing so we can monitor the life cycle

07:26of our vehicles.

07:27>> Okay. Thank you.

07:28>> Oh, this is for life cycle, that's

07:30basically what it is. Just Okay.

07:36081035 approved purchase order to Hertz

07:38Rentals for concrete buggy for public

07:42services $23,030.

07:44081036

07:46approved purchase

07:48>> I'm sorry. It's you know, I'm just

07:50confused on that. You know, I'm sure

07:52it's something basic because would you

07:53please describe what it is? It says it's

07:55for storm water on 10

07:5835.

08:00Thank you, Matt.

08:08>> Good morning. Yes, ma'am. It is for

08:09storm water. There are a lot of

08:10locations in our storm water system that

08:12are accessible to a concrete truck. And

08:14rather than have our guys carry the bags

08:16by hand and try to get water to that

08:18location, uh concrete buggy allows you

08:21to mix concrete in the truck or in the

08:24buggy and buggy it to the location.

08:27>> Okay. And and this is something we'll

08:29purchase

08:31or is just rental?

08:32>> This will be purchased.

08:33>> Okay, great. Thank you.

08:34>> Yes, ma'am.

08:36>> Is there

08:37081036,

08:39approved purchase order to Truck

08:40Equipment Sales for articulating aerial

08:42bucket truck

08:44$201,899.

08:47081037, approved purchase order to Power

08:50Sports of Montgomery for two Honda

08:52all-terrain vehicles, $26,752.80.

08:58081038, approved purchase order to Power

09:00Sports of Montgomery

09:03>> [clears throat]

09:03>> for Defender side-by-side utility

09:06vehicle $21,757.49.

09:11081039, approved purchase order to Fleet

09:14Service and Equipment Company, new

09:16business as Fleetco for four-byer

09:18municipal snow plows

09:21for $73,372.36.

09:24>> Mr. President.

09:25>> Mr. Rundle.

09:26>> Are we using those the four-wheelers and

09:28the side-by-side? Those are not just

09:30like used downtown, are they?

09:33>> We do.

09:34>> We've got some pretty wooded areas, you

09:36know, that I think your your four

09:38wheelers are not going to go.

09:39>> We have vehicles now that we currently

09:41>> You're in my title.

09:42>> Those vehicles are for Mardi Gras

09:45troll or the supervisors have to have

09:48those vehicles. We currently have

09:49vehicles now, but they're reaching their

09:50life cycle.

09:52>> So, we have wooded areas throughout my

09:55district

09:56>> Mhm.

09:57>> that I think

10:00I think it would be wise for us to own

10:02and operate ATVs to get to.

10:06Um you know, when there's trespassing

10:08and things like that, access property

10:10with property owners permission and all

10:12that sort of stuff and I know I had we

10:14had some discussions about it a while

10:16back and then there was like, we're not

10:18buying any and

10:20we can't find a place to store them. It

10:22was like the list of things and why we

10:24couldn't.

10:24>> Yeah.

10:25>> But now see you got some on here for

10:26Mardi Gras.

10:27>> Right.

10:28>> I just wonder why why we can't

10:29>> Well, I think to Chief Barber's point,

10:31we do have them.

10:33How many we have, I don't have that

10:34number. I can get that number for you.

10:36But we do have ATVs.

10:38>> I need the number. We'll make sure that

10:40we got what we need out there to fix

10:42problems out there.

10:43>> Sure.

10:45>> Oh, and snow plows.

10:48And it's obviously got some attention.

10:50I understand, right?

10:52>> [clears throat]

10:52>> If if the government doesn't have them,

10:54then who's going to have them, right?

10:55So, I think kind of like we got to buy

10:57the dang snow plows, but can they be

11:00used for something other than snow?

11:05>> What other snow like material would you

11:07suggest?

11:07>> Put some garbage on

11:09Mardi Gras. I I don't know, but you I

11:11don't know. Is there some other use

11:13where we're not just having them sitting

11:14around and we can actually use them.

11:16I I don't know all the various uses of

11:18snow plows. I just know that I don't get

11:19a whole lot of use.

11:21>> Yeah. That's right.

11:23>> Have you ever thought about other uses?

11:25>> We we have we have thought about other

11:27ways to manage debris during Mardi Gras

11:29to be more We have not thought about

11:31using snow plows for that. The reason

11:33the the

11:34>> You can't characterize it like that.

11:36>> The reason

11:37Well, the reason that the the reason

11:38that we use teams of of guys with

11:41backpack blowers is because the spread

11:43of material during our growth so wide

11:45that you have to

11:46>> about mud.

11:46>> Okay.

11:47>> We're talking about snow.

11:47>> Well, you brought it up.

11:49>> [laughter]

11:50>> Well, I'm just saying have you thought

11:51about other uses for snow plows? And and

11:53I guess the answer is no.

11:54>> No, there are no non-weather related

11:56things that we've thought about for snow

11:58plows.

12:00>> Non-weather related. So, you've talked

12:01about other weather related.

12:03>> Yeah, yeah. So, in the in the

12:04in the event of sleet and snow, like

12:06sleet or or freezing rain that's turning

12:08into snow, you still get accumulation

12:10and before it turns into hardened ice,

12:12you would still use the plows for that

12:13purpose. And obviously that's a lot more

12:16common occurrence for us. The issue the

12:18issue at hand is trying to prevent the

12:19situation we found ourselves in in '25

12:22where the snow sat for 3 days and the

12:24bottom foot of it turned into solid ice,

12:26particularly downtown where there were

12:28areas that didn't receive any sunlight

12:30for contiguous days.

12:31>> These these snow plows, they're going to

12:32just attach them to existing equipment,

12:34right? So, like a truck.

12:36>> They're Yeah, they're stand-alone plows.

12:38Uh well, it's we'll have to set up a

12:41an attachment system for the front of

12:42the dump [snorts] trucks and that that

12:44system will remain on the dump trucks,

12:45you know, forever. Uh and then anytime

12:49you need them, you'll be able to attach

12:51the mounting system of the blade.

12:55>> Well, I mean, it's obviously interesting

12:56got to meet you about it, you know, when

12:58Mobile Alabama bought a snow plow. If we

13:00don't have it, then who's going to have

13:01it? And I think we found ourselves on

13:03several occasions

13:04in a situation where we needed them and

13:05then I mean, you can't just call up Herc

13:07Rentals and say, "Give me a snow plow."

13:09They don't they don't keep snow plows.

13:10>> That's right. And and part of this

13:12includes that the dealing with the

13:14attachment component because these are

13:15hydraulic and electric. It's not like

13:17you can take a a special specialized

13:20plow like that and just attach it to the

13:21front of a car or truck. You could take

13:23a rudimentary plow and put it on the

13:25front of a pickup, but it won't do what

13:26we need it to do uh with regard to

13:29volume and you know, dealing with the

13:31slope of the road and everything like

13:32that. So,

13:34you know, the way we view it is that the

13:35time to purchase insurance is before the

13:37incident, not after.

13:39>> Thank you, man.

13:40>> Councilman Woods.

13:41>> Um I just want to say that I want to

13:43concur with Mr. Reynolds and also too, I

13:45had a spirited conversation with my wife

13:47while cooking dinner last night about

13:48snow plows.

13:50Um and my same thing I think, you know,

13:53when the when the great snow of 2025

13:55hit, um obviously it

13:58there was issues downtown, but even in

13:59District 6, I think the people of Wall

14:01Street, uh they weren't able to even

14:03leave their neighborhood for pretty much

14:05a week. Uh it took some time to to to

14:07get that and and then also Providence

14:09Park, you know, our access into the

14:11hospital there and then even on on Grey

14:12Lot, um you know, it's real hilly and it

14:15became uh troublesome and the Cottage

14:17Hill as well. So, I I definitely

14:18appreciate um the forward thinking and

14:20um you know, might not even use the snow

14:22plows for 10 years.

14:24Um but, you know, at least we got them.

14:26We're prepared for it. We won't find

14:27ourselves in that situation. I I think

14:29we had police officers using skid steers

14:31to try to clear streets whenever the

14:33great snow of 2025 happened. But, uh but

14:36again, I do appreciate thanks for the

14:38forward thinking, Matt and um I

14:39appreciate that and

14:41I I think, you know, another use could

14:42have been you could decorate them. Um

14:44maybe you like a trolley. Uh

14:47you know, we could do

14:48So, I mean there's plenty of usage you

14:50can do. Maybe there's an art walk we

14:51could all decorate the snow plows once a

14:53year. There's there's plenty of stuff to

14:54do.

14:58>> Mr. President.

14:59>> Uh thank you, Mr. President. And of

15:00course, like all my colleagues, we've

15:03been receiving phone calls and emails.

15:05And one of the things that I shared is

15:07um five P's that I stand on. Prior

15:09planning and prevents poor performance.

15:11And I think that a lot of times in in my

15:15my daughter is 12. And as her being 12

15:17years old, we experienced some snow two

15:20times that was challenging. Uh where I

15:22had to make phone calls. I had to call

15:24Chief Barber and get assistance the last

15:26time for a neighbor in our district. And

15:28I think that because financially the

15:30city of Mobile is in a great position to

15:33be able to provide this service for our

15:35citizens if a situation like this arise

15:38that we are prepared. So I think it's a

15:40good thing that we're able to to provide

15:42this

15:44get these snow plows. I know it's hard

15:46to think about snow in the in the city

15:47of Mobile, but in 12 years we have

15:51experienced some challenging moments and

15:53I think we need to be prepared. Thank

15:54you, Mr. President.

15:55>> Mr. President.

15:56>> Yes, Councilwoman.

15:57>> I want to echo the same sentiments as my

15:59colleagues. You know, when you think

16:01about the government's role, you know,

16:03public services is at the top. And so

16:05thank you for being proactive in terms

16:07of what we need to ensure quality of

16:09life. So thank you.

16:12>> All right. Madam Clerk,

16:14>> Zero.

16:15081040,

16:17approve purchase order Classic Paint &

16:18Body for collision damage repairs.

16:21$20,673.72.

16:25081041,

16:27approve purchase order to Tri Mark for

16:29assorted serving items and equipment for

16:32Regions Mobile Arena, $800,000.

16:34>> Chief Barber.

16:36>> Yes, sir. On this particular item on

16:371041, we're asking that y'all take that

16:39up today. The main reason being that

16:41when the quote from the supplier, this

16:43is all part of the FF&E for the arena.

16:46This has to do with plates and flatware

16:48and all those accessories we need to

16:49serve people at the arena.

16:52The supplier made the quote. The quote

16:53is only good till the end of this month.

16:55So tomorrow is it. And so that's why we

16:57asked for that y'all take this up. If

16:59you remember last year y'all moved 11.8

17:02million over to FF&E, which was part of

17:05the OBG stuff. And so the money's there.

17:08It's already been allocated. This is

17:09just the bid that came in.

17:11We expect that if we don't execute on

17:13it,

17:14if we get a 3% price increase on the

17:16next bid, you're talking about another

17:1824,000 for the same equipment.

17:21>> Councilman Payne.

17:23>> Uh Ronald

17:24>> I just I

17:25Look, I mean, it's not like we didn't

17:26know we're going to buy FF&E for the

17:28Civic Center. We didn't know we're going

17:30to have to have plates and forks and

17:31knives, and we're spending a lot of

17:33money for these consultants and

17:34everybody else to run the job. We

17:36shouldn't be planning for this to be

17:38taken by consent. I hope y'all had a

17:40discussion with the people that we pay

17:42to manage this stuff to say, "What are

17:44we doing?"

17:45>> It takes 2 weeks to get it through City

17:46Council.

17:47>> I talked to Sam Natani yesterday, and

17:48you'll you'll have to I guess appreciate

17:51the fact that they're they're running

17:53wide open, and so they're trying to get

17:54all of this stuff done. It's not just

17:56FF&E. We've got change orders going on

17:58and trying to stay on schedule. And so,

18:00I do apologize that it came in when it

18:02did, but the the fact is the bid

18:06was only good for till the end of the

18:07month, and so

18:10we'll try to do better. It's just I

18:11didn't know about it until it hit the

18:13agenda, and then I found out that it

18:15would expire. This particular bid will

18:17will expire tomorrow.

18:21>> It's fine.

18:21>> may not go up. We don't know, but we

18:23have to

18:25That's right.

18:27>> Question um

18:28>> Ronald Payne

18:28>> Okay.

18:30>> Um Chief, um I understand the concern of

18:32my colleague. Um of course, it's a a lot

18:34of money, and the great thing we already

18:36have it allocated. We already have it

18:37moved for this purpose.

18:39Um but going forward

18:41uh

18:42Like I I think right now we already know

18:44that we we have arena that's coming

18:46forward, and um can we already get them

18:48to be on on

18:50track to let us know what's coming? Like

18:53I mean, I know we got to put We already

18:54know we're going to have to buy all this

18:55stuff. So, is it a time frame that

18:57they're going to submit any more

18:59requests to utilize that fund?

19:01>> Yeah, you'll you'll see more and more

19:02FF&E stuff come in. And um but what

19:05we'll try to do is make sure we're a

19:06little more timely on it. Again, until

19:08this hit the agenda, I didn't realize it

19:10expired. Well, actually, it was

19:11yesterday when I found out it expires

19:13tomorrow. And so, that's the only

19:15reason, but we'll try to be more timely,

19:17but I do appreciate how hard they're

19:19working trying to keep up with the

19:20schedule. So, they're pretty busy.

19:24>> Vice President.

19:25>> If

19:27If [clears throat] we don't vote on this

19:28today, would you have to go back and

19:30rebid the whole thing?

19:31>> We'd have to go back to the supplier,

19:33and um the supplier uses his suppliers,

19:36and so he'd have to check with his

19:37suppliers to see if there's any price

19:39increase. Uh to

19:40>> To see if we could go another week.

19:43>> Pardon?

19:43>> To find out if we could go another week

19:45without the price skyrocketing or

19:46whatever.

19:48>> Yes, um it you know, I guess

19:51even if y'all chose not to, we can come

19:53back with a price increase. So, the

19:55plates and flatware and all the stuff

19:56that we need, we still have time to get.

19:58It's just we're trying to hold the

20:00supplier to the price that he quoted.

20:04>> Mr. President.

20:05>> Yeah, Councilwoman.

20:06>> Um Chief, I appreciate you saying that

20:08you all will work to to you know, to

20:10improve the process. But as we think

20:12about the project manager that's

20:13managing this project, um my concern

20:16would be that they haven't already

20:18reached out to them to see can you

20:20extend this instead of bringing this to

20:22us today saying, "Yes, you know, we want

20:24to take this under consent." Did the

20:27project manager reach out? Has anyone

20:28reached out because we have someone that

20:30we're paying to manage this project?

20:33>> Well, [clears throat] I don't know.

20:34Again, I I guess I want y'all to

20:36appreciate how busy he is um on this

20:38project and trying to keep the timeline.

20:40So,

20:42if y'all don't want to take it under

20:43consent, we'll work with the supplier.

20:44We'll make whatever amendments we need

20:46to. We can still move forward. I'm just

20:48saying that the part that we are

20:51obligated to on this particular

20:53[clears throat] price is really expires

20:55tomorrow.

20:59>> I [clears throat] I'm not necessarily

21:00going to object

21:02to this one, which is odd that I

21:03typically do,

21:04but I think it's just got to be known

21:06that I know that there's a lot going on.

21:08We know that this is going to be a $300

21:09million project. We knew we were going

21:11to move real fast that as we move

21:13forward and I think Mr. Penn's point was

21:16we don't know what FF&E's being

21:18purchased. We don't know what the plan

21:20is or the schedule is. Y'all are meeting

21:22with these folks daily, I'm sure. I'm

21:24sure Mr. Mayor's getting

21:26at the bare minimum weekly updates of

21:27what's going on. So, you're in the fight

21:29and you understand it. We see it when it

21:31gets on our agenda, right? So, that time

21:34that we set aside is our time to

21:36understand it. We don't have the

21:38the luxury of meeting with them weekly

21:40and knowing what's going on. So, this

21:42puts us at a disadvantage, you know. Mr.

21:45Penn may want a pink couch instead of a

21:47blue one or something, you know, I I

21:48don't know, but but there is no input

21:50into any of

21:52of any of the process, what we're

21:53buying, how we're going about doing it.

21:55I'm sure Mayor you got your finger on

21:57the pulse saying, "Well, you

21:59I've got to do this or that or you know,

22:01change things up or

22:03you know,

22:04>> [clears throat]

22:04>> get no input. And then it's placed in

22:06front of us for $800,000 for thousands

22:09of items and we ask to take it up in a

22:11week's time.

22:12Or

22:133 days now.

22:14>> And I you know,

22:16I can appreciate that. I can tell you

22:17I'm generally

22:19um

22:20we are absolutely paying attention to

22:21everything that's coming up. We are

22:23getting updates

22:24uh about these, you know, this

22:26particular one I appreciate it's a large

22:28number to be asked to take up on consent

22:31and so I certainly appreciate your

22:32position.

22:34You know, it takes them time to get the

22:35quote. Uh

22:37you know,

22:38takes them time to get the quote from

22:40the supplier after the supplier has

22:42gotten quotes from their suppliers and

22:44and so, you know, and these quotes only

22:46last so long, you know how pricing

22:48changes uh

22:49seems like every day with oil and gas

22:52prices and everything else.

22:54Um

22:55but what I think I heard in there is

22:57maybe an interest in

22:59understanding what maybe the next kind

23:01of buys on the horizon are for FF&E and

23:04I we will certainly ask uh if we can get

23:06a list

23:08compiled for that. Um I'm not changing I

23:11to my knowledge we're not buying any

23:12pink couches. I want to put that out

23:14there. Um

23:17No no objection to pink but um

23:20you know I I don't expect you'll see any

23:22pink couches in there but we'll find

23:24out.

23:25We'll we'll get you that list. You know

23:27I do want to just come in. The project

23:29manager at here of late we've had a lot

23:32of conversation about the arena of

23:33course as it affected Mardi Gras as far

23:36as grand opening dates. We've asked

23:39quite a bit from our office of Mr.

23:41Matheny and Volkert over the last two to

23:44three weeks. They've been working

23:45overtime for us.

23:47It wasn't necessarily on this particular

23:49item issue. Um

23:51we've been really trying to nail down

23:52timelines and make sure that everybody

23:54felt comfortable with where we were um

23:56working with Bill Harbert who's really

23:59you know committed to delivering this

24:01arena prior to their contractual

24:04obligation. You know at this point they

24:05have a contractual date uh and we're

24:08looking well before that to to have a

24:10grand opening. So

24:12we put a lot of work on their plates

24:14over the last two to three weeks um

24:16above and beyond just managing the

24:17project.

24:19Uh so I want to give them a little grace

24:21but going forward uh we'll certainly in

24:23our meetings see if we can get our hands

24:25on

24:25>> [snorts]

24:25>> kind of the the projection for FF&E just

24:28so it doesn't come as a surprise.

24:32>> I think I just want to make sure it's

24:33not just FF&E.

24:35And we're sort of riding blind in some

24:38respects. I'm not saying we should be in

24:40every one of your meetings or but just

24:42uh

24:44bring us up to speed on the biggest

24:46project in the history of the city of

24:48Mobile from time to time rather than you

24:51know us finding about things when the

24:54agenda's published. I just you know I

24:56feel like the citizens of District 4

24:59should know a little bit too.

25:01>> Sure.

25:02>> Thank you.

25:03>> Anyone else?

25:05Madam [clears throat] Clerk.

25:11>> [snorts]

25:11>> 131042

25:13authorized change order with asphalt

25:15services for downtown street

25:16optimization resurfacing and striping

25:19$498,107.41

25:22decrease.

25:23251043

25:25granted permanent easement to Alabama

25:27Power to provide underground service to

25:29Tremearne Park

25:32Album Club Road.

25:34011051

25:36authorized lease and service agreement

25:37with Safe Haven Baby Boxes Inc. to

25:41provide safety device and services

25:43$16,500

25:44per year.

25:45091052

25:47transfer funds from general fund to

25:49capital improvements fund.

25:52This is the discretionary.

25:53>> Oh, yeah.

25:54>> Mr. President

25:55>> Yes,

25:55Councilman Woods.

25:56>> Um

25:57So, I know obviously our discretionary

25:59fund rolls into the capital improvements

26:01fund. Is for each of respective district

26:04and then I guess after a certain period

26:06of time, I guess is it 3 years where it

26:08rolls if it's unused it rolls out of the

26:10capital into the general fund. Is that

26:12>> No.

26:12>> No.

26:13>> So, this is a this is a continuous

26:15>> This rolls over.

26:16>> Yes.

26:17>> All of it is capital.

26:18>> That being said, is there a way that at

26:20least for District 6 that I might get

26:22number one, I guess the balance of it.

26:23Number two, how do we access that

26:26capital?

26:28>> It'll actually um whatever residual

26:29[clears throat]

26:30discretionary money you all have will

26:32just go into your contingency your

26:33capital contingency. Um and it there is

26:36a rule of thumb of 3 years, but we would

26:38never move that capital contingency back

26:40to general fund. That requires Council

26:43action.

26:45>> Um and I guess

26:46just over the next week, would it be

26:48possible to get a balance of that? Um

26:50>> Yes.

26:51>> And then also how would we access that I

26:53guess and what qualifiers and we would

26:55access? Cuz I know um, you know,

26:57obviously we have CIP and there's this

27:00capital fund. Um, I know sometimes uh

27:03some of the projects it you know,

27:04wouldn't be as much uh maybe it's

27:06sidewalk repairs some small sidewalk

27:08repairs or maybe a turf field on a

27:10ballpark or something. Um, we'd like to

27:13maybe at least know how we access that

27:14and how we go about doing that I guess.

27:16>> Yeah, so the

27:18the contingency is actually not a pro

27:20not a project, right? And so it's not

27:22like it's going to expire. Whenever you

27:24have a cost overrun or however you want

27:26to spend that money, that's what it

27:27Yeah, and a lot of times Nick Amber or

27:29somebody will reach out to you all

27:31because something a project came in a

27:32maybe a little higher and then they'll

27:34offer to use contingency in order to

27:36fulfill that. I think we ran in with

27:38Gina Ambeau used some contingency money

27:40to help us with the North McGregor

27:41project. And so

27:44that money

27:45historically y'all have always just put

27:47it into the contingency.

27:49>> But yeah, rolling our any discretionary

27:51into contingency would be the easiest

27:53way.

27:54>> Yes.

27:54>> Chances are you'll use it.

27:55>> And it gives you a lot of flexibility to

27:58shore up your pro your projects.

28:00>> Thank you.

28:00>> Mr. President.

28:01>> Uh Councilwoman Neighbor, then

28:03Councilman Woods.

28:04>> [clears throat]

28:04>> Um, Chief, thank you for the

28:05explanation, but I but I want to make

28:07sure I understand what Councilman Woods

28:08is asking. So, for example, like he said

28:12a baseball field. Let's say that he had

28:1320,000 left over. How would he access

28:16that if he if he wanted to resurface

28:19something in his area? What would he do?

28:21Like what are the steps for that?

28:22>> Well, if he's got a program that you

28:25have an overrun to where there's extra

28:27money left in the at you know, the close

28:29of the program or the project, um that

28:31actually goes to contingency.

28:34And so until you decide to use it for

28:36some other project. But that contingency

28:39obviously is a pretty important to shore

28:41up unexpected cost overruns in different

28:44programs that you're doing.

28:47>> I just want to know that.

28:48>> Thank you.

28:49>> I guess driving on that same point is is

28:51it's not discretionary funds any longer.

28:54>> That's right.

28:54>> Once you do you do not spend it in a

28:56year, which this should be an

28:58encouragement not to spend all your

29:00money

29:01in discretionary funds, you roll that

29:02over and say you roll $50,000 a year. If

29:05you do that 4 years, you got $200,000

29:08that you go into capital contingency

29:10account that can then be allocated to

29:12resurface the roads.

29:14Um but it's not it's not based on

29:16discretion. It just goes into the So,

29:18just have to work like any other capital

29:20project when you want to access it.

29:24Uh Logan, you got all that?

29:28>> He's just telling that you wanted it.

29:30>> Madam Clerk.

29:33>> Call for public hearings. 41-10-44

29:36call for public hearing to consider the

29:38proposed rezoning of property located at

29:40the east side of Causeway, 650

29:43ft north of Battleship Park Way from R-1

29:46to I-2 scheduled November the 3rd.

29:4941-10-45 call for public hearing to

29:51consider proposed modification of a

29:53previously approved PUD for property

29:56located at the east side of Hillcrest

29:58Road, 290 ft south of Freeland Road,

30:00scheduled November 3rd.

30:0241-10-46 call for public hearing to

30:05consider the application to rezone

30:06property located at 5070

30:09O'Shell Road from R-1 to B-2 scheduled

30:12November 3rd.

30:1441-10-47

30:16call for public hearing to consider

30:18proposed conditional use permit for

30:20property located at 6455 House Ferry

30:23Road, scheduled November 3rd. 41-10-48

30:27call for public hearing to consider

30:29proposed modification of a previously

30:30approved planning approval for property

30:32located at 53 Foreman Road and 6784 and

30:366788

30:39Dickens Ferry Road, scheduled November

30:413rd. 41-10-49

30:43call for public hearing to consider

30:45proposed modification of a previously

30:47approved put for a property located at

30:5053 Foreman Road and 67 84 67 88 Dickens

30:54Ferry Road, scheduled November 3rd.

30:56Announcements.

30:57>> Uh Council

30:59>> Mr. President

31:00>> Yeah, Councilwoman

31:00>> I would like to remind us that we do

31:02have a committee meeting today, Economic

31:04Culture and Civic Development. Um and

31:06the topic would be with the City of

31:08Mobile Film Office

31:10at 1:00 p.m.

31:12>> And what else?

31:14Vice President

31:16>> Yeah, let's take a look at resolutions

31:20that we can wave on consent. Are there

31:22any under consent that anybody wants to

31:24call out?

31:26Okay.

31:27Uh resolutions being introduced, we have

31:30a number. Let's start with 08 10 31,

31:3410 32,

31:3610 35, 10 37, 10 38,

31:4110 40, 10 41, and 10 51.

31:46Everybody good?

31:47>> And 10 52.

31:48>> And what?

31:48>> 10 52. I'm sorry, that's not on there.

31:51It was added.

31:52>> Oh, the the transfer. Okay, yeah. All

31:54right, and 10 52. Yes.

31:57>> Any objections anyone?

31:59>> Okay.

32:00>> Anything from the administration?

32:01All right.

32:02We'll see you all downstairs at 10:30.

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