2026-09-01 - Pre-Council

00:00Planning Commission about the Center

00:02Drive property.

00:03>> [clears throat]

00:04>> I'm going to stick with the Planning

00:05Commission's recommendation to um

00:08for denial on this rezoning

00:10um based on some infrastructure

00:12concerns, some compatibility

00:14uh concerns, and um how it would

00:17advertly affect [laughter] affect some

00:19of the surrounding neighborhoods. So,

00:20I'm going to recommend I'm going to

00:21stick with what the Planning Commission

00:23recommended and um recommend denial.

00:25>> Okay. Anyone else?

00:28All right. Madam Clerk. [clears throat]

00:30>> Presentation of petitions and other

00:31communications to the council, Deborah

00:33Cooper. Um dog breed reclassification

00:37as dangerous and the lack of enforcement

00:40of current animal cruelty laws, Sabrina

00:42Mass to support the mayor in cutting

00:44funds to support City Classic.

00:47Reggie Hill request of various

00:49investigations rules and procedures in

00:51fiscal year 27 budget, Michael

00:54Standerfer Mobile Pops Band

00:57enhance high performance contract

00:58amount.

00:59Um Chad

01:02Sutonu.

01:05Um requesting that 920 Dolphin Street be

01:09zoned for office use and not social

01:11assistance, welfare, charitable

01:12services.

01:15Ordinances held over 07033

01:19ordinance to amend

01:20and reinstate Chapter 7 of the Mobile

01:22City Code and the City of Mobile

01:24schedule of fines.

01:25>> Mr. President.

01:26>> Uh Mr. Parnell.

01:27>> My suggestion is we hold this over till

01:30October 6th for a vote.

01:32>> Okay. Any issues anyone?

01:34Okay. Madam Clerk.

01:36>> Consent resolutions held over 37903.

01:42Recommend approval to the ABC board for

01:43issuance of a special retail more than

01:4530 days license to Sweet Dreams Haunted

01:47Attraction on St. Francis Street.

01:50>> Okay. Councilman Ingram.

01:51>> No issues.

01:52>> Okay.

01:54>> Resolutions held over 01920 authorize

01:57agreement with North American Fire

01:59Equipment Company for uniforms.

02:0201921

02:04authorized renewal of independent

02:05contractor services agreement with

02:07Thompson Engineering

02:10>> [clears throat]

02:11>> for embedded engineering and project

02:13management support. 08927

02:16approved purchase order to Capital

02:19Tractor for skid steer loader with

02:21attachments. 08928 approved purchase

02:24order to Covington Civil and

02:26Environmental for public marina or

02:29docking facilities feasibility study.

02:31>> Mr. President.

02:32>> Mr. Ronald.

02:33>> I didn't see a a contract that y'all

02:35just decide we're not going to do a

02:37contract on this one.

02:38I guess that's y'all's position.

02:40>> Yeah, I think just so we can clarify.

02:44>> Okay.

02:45Um

02:46>> [clears throat]

02:46>> So, you know, I I I think this is a

02:48departure from the way we ordinary

02:50conduct these sort of contracts, uh

02:53performance contracts, where we

02:55generally have a

02:57you know, a contract in place. Although,

02:59I understand this does represent a

03:01contract, but it

03:03it's not the sort of typical contract

03:05that we see.

03:07I mean, for example, you know, they they

03:08say, "Well, we

03:10we should have this done in 90 days." I

03:12mean,

03:13I we don't need to be getting into these

03:15situations where we're just sort of

03:18working on trust. I don't think that's a

03:20good public policy. I think we should

03:22have it spelled out line for line what

03:25the expectation is. There's no ambiguity

03:27about it. There's, you know, completion

03:29times that we know and we're sure about.

03:32There's ways to resolve disputes, so on

03:34and so forth. I know this is a small

03:36amount of money, but, you know,

03:39if if we're going to use it for this,

03:41why wouldn't we use it for big

03:42contracts, you know? So,

03:44I I I just I think we should execute a

03:48more detailed contract versus just

03:50accepting their proposal and [snorts]

03:51giving them a purchase order for their

03:53proposal. So, I mean I I think there's

03:56widespread support for doing this sort

03:58of thing. That

04:01I think majority of folks would love for

04:02us to explore the opportunity to create

04:04a marina

04:06uh in our city, downtown, wherever. I

04:09just don't think this is the right way

04:10to do it. I mean a feasibility study

04:12shouldn't certainly should be done. It's

04:13just let's do a contract for it instead

04:15of just issuing a PO.

04:27>> Anyone else?

04:28Madam Clerk.

04:29>> [laughter]

04:30>> 08932

04:33approve purchase order to

04:35>> [clears throat]

04:35>> Recon View Recon View for camera

04:39trailers with power camera mast storage

04:42upgrades. 08933 approve purchase order

04:45to Safeware for bomb suit with helmet.

04:4808936

04:50approve purchase order Sunbelt Fire for

04:52coats and pants with thermal liners and

04:54vapor barriers. 08937

04:58approve purchase order SunSouth for

05:00tractor with boom mower.

05:0209938

05:04appropriate funds

05:06in the municipal government capital

05:08improvement fund to various capital

05:09projects. 09939

05:12appropriate funds to fiscal year 2027

05:15Rebuild Alabama allocation to Tiger

05:18South Broad Street project.

05:2109940

05:23transfer funds from general fund to

05:24capital project North McGregor

05:26reconstruction.

05:2813940

05:301 authorize change order number five

05:32with PL Russell for Cooper Riverside

05:34Park Great Lawn upgrades.

05:3721 942 authorize contract with

05:41McCollough & Company construction for

05:43North McGregor Avenue reconstruction

05:45roundabout to Springhill Avenue.

05:4721943

05:49authorized contract with Watermark

05:51Construct Consulting for Africa Town

05:54Welcome Center Museum contents.

05:5731944

05:58authorized the mayor to apply, accept,

06:00and receive a grant from the National

06:01Park Service Land and Water Conservation

06:03Fund for the Outdoor Recreation Legacy

06:05Partnership Grant for phase two of

06:08Brooklyn by the Bay.

06:1037945 consider the application of Elite

06:13One Stop Services for certificate of

06:15public convenience and necessity to

06:17operate a shuttle service.

06:19Ordinance is being introduced. 64034

06:22consider the proposed rezoning of

06:24property located at 1509 Navco Road.

06:2764035

06:29is the proposed rezoning of property

06:30located 4600 A Hamilton Boulevard.

06:3464036 is the proposed rezoning of

06:38property located 97 Central Drive.

06:41Consent resolutions being introduced.

06:4437946 and 947 are recommending approvals

06:47to the ABC Board for issuance of a beer

06:51retail beer, table wine off-premises

06:53only license to Great Day La Te on South

06:56Conception Street and for issuance of a

06:59retail beer, table wine off-premises

07:01only license to Shop and Save on Dolphin

07:03Island Parkway.

07:054948, 949, 950

07:09are the clearing of structures, public

07:10nuisances, and ordering them to

07:12demolish. 58951

07:15authorize removal of weeds, weed lean

07:17group 1680.

07:1960952

07:22953 are the terminal appropriations to

07:24Bright Academy and Holland Courtyard

07:27Homeowners Association serve a public

07:29purpose and approve payment.

07:31Resolutions being introduced. 01

07:36954

07:38authorize agreement with Richard Cooney

07:40to provide tennis teaching pro services

07:45for parks and recreation 80,000 per

07:47year. 08955

07:50approved purchase order to secure land

07:52and tree for storm drainage vegetation

07:55and debris removal.

07:5708956

07:59approved purchase order to cone to

08:01rebuild

08:02convention center exhibit hall

08:04escalators

08:0593

08:07154,397

08:10dollars and 20 cents.

08:12>> Mr. President, uh Ms. Graham, um are

08:14these the [clears throat]

08:16escalators that's on the bottom floor?

08:20Um when they call the exhibit hall, is

08:21that that?

08:22>> Yes, sir.

08:23>> Okay. Um the reason why it kind of

08:25brought back to my attention, the space

08:27that when we enter the convention center

08:30>> [snorts]

08:30>> um

08:32from the this parking lot right here

08:33that we're looking out on, um I remember

08:36at one time we was talking about like

08:37repurposing that space.

08:39Um is that still in conversation? I'm

08:42I'm that was like about a year and a

08:44half ago.

08:45>> It was. We We haven't addressed it.

08:47>> Okay, you get to the close to the mic,

08:49yeah, and turn it on.

08:51>> [laughter]

08:51>> Thank you.

08:53>> We We need to revisit that with the

08:55overall plan for the Water Street

08:58frontage with the administration.

09:00>> Okay. Um the reason why I was just

09:02thinking about, of course, we see the

09:04numbers are up at Amtrak and when it

09:07rains, we only have that little tent.

09:08Just seeing that space, I went that

09:10other day. I don't know if that's part

09:11of looking at the opportunity to utilize

09:14that space where people can come in, but

09:16>> Yes, sir.

09:17>> Um I don't know when that time comes,

09:19I'd love to get some information about

09:21it.

09:21>> Okay. All right.

09:27There's alternate plans being worked on.

09:29We've actually met with a group this

09:31week um with some projections that will

09:34come to y'all soon.

09:35>> Okay. Thank you. All right, thank you.

09:37Madam Clerk.

09:40>> 08957,

09:43approved purchase order to Thompson

09:44Tractor Company for 5,000 lb diesel

09:48forklift, $57,304.28.

09:5208958, approved purchase order to MCCI

09:55for annual renewal of Laserfiche

09:57document management software,

09:58$44,151.98.

10:01>> Mr. President.

10:02>> Uh Councilwoman.

10:03>> If administration could share, this

10:06talks about uh renewal related to the

10:09cloud protection um in terms of storage.

10:13And I just want to know what's the

10:15extent of that. Is it just for certain

10:17type of or is it, you know,

10:20comprehensive for all of our storage?

10:33>> [cough and clears throat]

10:38>> Yes, sir.

10:54>> Come on, turn your microphone on.

10:56>> Yes.

10:57>> [gasps]

10:58>> The Laserfiche that we implemented that

11:01in this past year and absolutely it's an

11:03enterprise-wide. Uh right now it's

11:05focused on about four or five

11:06departments,

11:08uh archives being one of those. Um

11:11and uh so we're we're we're kind of

11:13phasing them in coming off of our old

11:15system and getting the records in. But

11:17it is cloud-based. It is a hosted

11:19system. It's also CJIS compliant so we

11:22can store court records, police records.

11:25So,

11:26am I answering your question?

11:27>> You are. So, there So, this only

11:29represents four to five departments?

11:31>> Right now. Right now. It it There was an

11:33immediate need because those departments

11:36were already using

11:37a a record manager a cloud system. But

11:41it was really

11:43we needed to get them more on

11:44enterprise. It has a lot more features

11:46where archives can do

11:48different policies, you know, for the

11:51retention on the documents. Make sure

11:52we're in compliance with state laws and

11:54so forth. Whereas we couldn't really do

11:56that with the old system.

11:58>> Okay. And that's that's great that we

12:00are, you know, moving forward and

12:01improving our technology. But my

12:03question goes back to what Councilman

12:05Reynolds

12:06shared last week. So if we're doing this

12:09with a purchase order, I guess my

12:11concern you talked about, you know, you

12:14would think that there would be an

12:15agreement that would lay out to ensure

12:17that we are

12:20have certain protocols in our

12:23to adhere to. So I guess my question my

12:25follow-up question would

12:28this manner, how are you ensuring that

12:31those

12:32departments are that they're adhering to

12:35that and they've agreed to that?

12:36>> Right. That's a good question.

12:38You know, and with the purchase order,

12:41and that is the approach we did take

12:43with this. And and

12:45sometimes cuz at the end of the day this

12:47is a SaaS software as a service. It's

12:50being hosted for us and provided for us.

12:53And keep in mind too that like with this

12:56one Laserfiche, it's on a procurement

12:59contract. And I can't remember on this

13:01one particular if it's on the NASPO or

13:05which one it's on. But

13:06so as far as pricing, the pricing's are

13:09pretty fixed being on the being on the

13:11government procurement contract

13:12pre-bidded. And even within the purchase

13:15order, we still have agreements and

13:18terms that they have to meet.

13:20And you know,

13:23>> [clears throat]

13:23>> so everything as far as protecting in

13:25city,

13:26you know, as far as what, you know,

13:28what's required of that software system

13:30and the provider that's providing it.

13:32It's in the terms of the purchase order

13:35agreement. And the difference is it's

13:37just not a multi-year term agreement. We

13:40just have to renew it each year.

13:42>> But that's not included in our packet.

13:44Like we we don't have access to that so

13:47that we can be a part of that and make

13:48sure that we're making an informed

13:50decision.

13:50>> Right.

13:51>> So

13:52>> We can get you that.

13:53Absolutely.

13:54Yeah.

13:55>> Yeah, I'd love to see that.

13:57>> I mean, every purchase order I we see on

13:59our end

14:00doesn't have any terms in the purchase.

14:03That could possibly resolve all these

14:05issues. The terms that, you know, when

14:06somebody receives a purchase order, are

14:08they agreeing to some terms and what are

14:10those terms?

14:11>> Yeah, and and we're happy to get you

14:13those and I'll also just note that I

14:16mean, the vast majority of commercial

14:17transactions that are completed every

14:19day are done via purchase order. And

14:21when we're talking about goods, we're

14:23also dealing with the Uniform Commercial

14:25Code. And so there are standard terms

14:26that are included both in these personal

14:28purchase orders and they're included by

14:30law. Um but

14:32we're happy to provide you any

14:33documentation related to this particular

14:36acquisition.

14:38>> Mr. [clears throat] President.

14:39>> Yes, Mr. Penn.

14:40>> Um I I know this this is a renewal. How

14:44long have we been working with MCCI

14:46Corporation?

14:49>> Uh let's see. This is the second

14:52renewal, the second year. So this would

14:54this would be the second year. So over a

14:55year.

14:56>> Over a year. Okay.

14:57>> Now, we use MCCI also provides um

15:03just for you.

15:04Yeah, for the public records requests.

15:06>> Okay.

15:08And where they located?

15:11>> MCCI is based out of Tallahassee,

15:14Florida. They also have offices in

15:15Atlanta.

15:17>> Okay.

15:19And again, because this is software,

15:21this doesn't have to be big. Correct?

15:23>> Doesn't have to be what?

15:25>> Big.

15:26>> Yeah, okay. Yeah.

15:27>> Not a big deal.

15:29>> So, what is normal the you know for you

15:31all when you consider this is the second

15:33year? What is the process of trying to

15:34look at other opportunity that provide

15:37these type of services?

15:38Is it a process or you just

15:40automatically just

15:42Since it's not a bid.

15:44>> Right. Well,

15:46you know, again and we talked about this

15:47last week. We have to be careful cuz

15:50when we do make that selection

15:52and and you know, on the product itself,

15:54the solution.

15:56This is an enterprise document

15:57management solution. So, that's not

15:59something every year you'd want to be

16:00going to another solution. That you'd be

16:03spending way too much time just

16:05transferring, you know, migrating

16:06[snorts] data.

16:08And it would be very disruptive to the

16:09department. So, we we try to, you know,

16:12realistically it's something that you're

16:14going to be committed to for at least 5

16:16years. And then you [snorts] start if

16:18it's not performing the way you want or

16:19there's other products out there that

16:21may be better, that's reasonable. Then

16:23you can start looking at maybe doing a

16:25migration to another solution.

16:27>> Yeah, that's I guess that you answered

16:28the question

16:30because of course this is the second

16:31year that means we were using 3 years

16:33ago another software

16:36and it was a reason for that transition.

16:38>> Yes.

16:38>> And so I guess my question that you

16:40answered was what is that reason? When

16:42do we look at other opportunities to

16:44work with other companies?

16:46And so thank you for sharing that

16:47information.

16:48>> Absolutely.

16:50>> All right, anyone else?

16:52All right, Madam Clerk.

16:55>> 21959

16:56authorized contract renewal with

16:58Southern Earth Sciences for annual

17:00landfill sampling requirements for Bates

17:02C&D Landfill and Hickory Street

17:04Landfill, $68,745.

17:0921960

17:10authorized contract with Geotechnical

17:12Engineering Testing for North McGregor

17:15Reconstruction Roundabout to Springhill

17:17Avenue 30,000.

17:22Call for public

17:24hearings.

17:2641961 call for public hearing to

17:28consider the application to rezone

17:29property located at 1451 Cedar Crest

17:32Drive from R3 to R3 to remove a

17:35previously approved rezoning condition

17:37schedule October 6th.

17:3941962

17:41call for public hearing to consider the

17:43modification of a previously approved

17:45plan unit development for property

17:46located at 1891 and 1901 Hurtel Street.

17:50Schedule October 6th. 41963

17:54call for public hearing to consider the

17:55application

17:56of Granbury Executive Transport for

17:58certificate certificate of public

18:00convenience and necessity to operate a

18:02shuttle sedan and limousine service

18:04schedule October September 15th.

18:07Announcements.

18:09>> Uh Council, we can possibly if y'all

18:11desire

18:13to waive the rules on 08955.

18:17Also 21-960.

18:20But I'm not too sure what the desire of

18:22resolution

18:2308-958

18:25that y'all want to hold it over or

18:28>> I would prefer that we get the

18:30information the agreement that comes

18:32with the sale so we can hold it up.

18:33>> they are looking at 08-955

18:36and

18:3721-960.

18:39Are we in agreement?

18:41Any issues?

18:44Any announcements?

18:46>> Uh Mr. President. Mr. Penn.

18:48>> I might have a question for [snorts] the

18:49administration. I have seen that another

18:52I know that as a city we want to grow

18:54our housing uh opportunities um and I

18:56saw another municipality was a recent

19:00recently purchased property from the

19:01state. Um I'm wondering is that

19:03something that we're working on or we

19:05already doing that?

19:08Um I saw another my

19:10purchase purchased property housing from

19:14the state of Alabama. Is that something

19:16that we have started that process

19:19of doing

19:20to help redevelop properties

19:23and it's dealing with blighted homes and

19:25that's something that I think could be a

19:27a big part of creating change in in the

19:29city of Mobile. We were able to do that.

19:35>> You know, I think that's a good

19:36question.

19:37Our housing issues are not going to be

19:39solved with any one particular solution,

19:41but if the question is are we going to

19:44take a look at opportunities to either

19:46buy foreclosed on property that the

19:49state is foreclosed on or are we going

19:51to consider foreclosing on our own liens

19:54in certain situations? I promise you

19:55that we are.

19:57Um in the end uh

19:59you know, we want it to be part of the

20:01concerted effort and so

20:03we're not going to blanketly go execute

20:05every single lien we have out there. Um

20:08all all

20:09housing situations are different, but

20:11where there's a case where a property is

20:14particularly dilapidated that it is

20:16increasing the blight of a neighborhood,

20:18we're absolutely going to look at that

20:19option of foreclosing our liens or

20:22getting out there and purchasing any tax

20:24sales at the state level.

20:26>> Okay. Thank you.

20:28>> Mr. President.

20:29>> Uh Councilwoman.

20:30>> Yes, thank you. Over the last few days

20:33um I've received concerns from residents

20:37and business owners regarding a video

20:39that is circulating through the

20:40community. I'm not sure I think you

20:43well, they copied a couple of us on the

20:45video. But more concerning, the

20:48questions have ranged from you know,

20:51what defines excessive use of force to

20:53being concerned about the level of

20:55support needed for our officers. You

20:57know, what is the ratio? How many

20:59officers should we have, you know, in an

21:01area to patrol?

21:04Um I believe that it's critical that the

21:06city council receives timely and and

21:08clear communication with incidents that

21:11have the potential to

21:13cause significant public concern. We're

21:15still waiting on the last report about

21:18the last video, a follow-up regarding

21:19the last video, as well as we discussed

21:22the protocol that we would, you know,

21:25that you all would use to keep the city

21:27council informed so that we are able to

21:32address concerns by our citizens.

21:34Um my intent is not to draw conclusions

21:37until we have all the facts, but it's to

21:40ensure that we do have transparency and

21:42accountability and clear communication

21:45um

21:46as it relates to concerns by our

21:48citizens. Um and so what I would like to

21:51ask uh Mr. President, if we can have a

21:54public safety committee so that we can

21:56get abreast of the current status of the

21:59protocol, uh the last two two videos,

22:03you know, and understanding. I want to

22:05make sure I say this part. When we talk

22:08about accountability, that's

22:09accountability for all. That's

22:11accountability for the people involved,

22:15you know, if it's youth, it's

22:16accountability for parents, you know,

22:18that accountability is not just at one

22:20level. And so if we could, you know,

22:23again have a public safety committee to

22:25address and get some type of update.

22:30>> And if I could ask

22:32if the councilwoman would share those

22:34videos that you're specifically

22:35referencing so that we know what we're

22:38talking about. I know that

22:39that, you know, if I'll say one thing,

22:41every incident of, you know, an

22:43accusation of excessive force is

22:46investigated and taken very seriously. I

22:49don't know the video that you're

22:50speaking of specifically, but um

22:53happy if you'll share those, we'll be

22:55happy to give you an update.

22:57>> The first video was the mayor. Was he in

23:00place or was this St. St. Stenson?

23:02>> The mayor was in place.

23:04>> a person

23:05>> Yes. Uh as a matter of fact, that's

23:06Ricardo was

23:08um the attorney at that time and he was

23:10sharing that, you know, that they would

23:12work on a protocol to bring back to us,

23:14you know, so that we have some kind of

23:16way of having an idea of where we are.

23:19Understanding we got to protect, you

23:20know, it's it's you know, human uh

23:23personnel issues and so forth. But, um

23:26yes, he was the mayor at that time.

23:28>> Yeah, Councilwoman Yeger had also shared

23:30that video with me and it was full of

23:32youth. Um and I think the time frame was

23:35like around like 1:00 a.m.

23:38Um the question that I do have is uh are

23:40we in for enforcing the curfew?

23:43And how is that going? So, um I will get

23:46with Vice President Gregory. She should

23:48be here at 10:30 for her to work with

23:50the public safety director and see if we

23:51can get a committee meeting from there,

23:53okay?

23:54>> Thank you.

23:54>> Anyone else?

23:56Anything for

23:57Yes, sir.

23:58>> What what

23:58>> I do want to recognize Ms. Pico and Ms.

24:01McElroy. Um last uh week I had the

24:04opportunity to meet with them along with

24:06the consultant that we've secured um to

24:09facilitate the um the

24:11downtown development district code

24:13workshop, which is coming up on tomorrow

24:16at 6:00 p.m. And I just want to thank uh

24:19the administrators, the the team for the

24:22work that they're doing because it truly

24:23allowed uh a collaborative conversation

24:26so that I was able to share concerns uh

24:29from the constituents and they're able

24:31to use that information to move forward

24:33in developing their presentation. So,

24:35just shout out to the collaborative

24:37spirit from that department. Thank you.

24:40>> Okay.

24:41Anything from administration?

24:43Okay. We'll see each other downstairs at

24:4510:30.

24:45>> Thank you.

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