2026-09-22 - Pre-Council

00:00Good morning, everyone.

00:00>> Good morning.

00:01>> It's good to see everyone this morning.

00:03Ladies and gentlemen, we're now in the

00:04hands of our capable city clerk, Ms.

00:05Lisa Carol.

00:06>> This is the pre-meeting of the Mobile

00:07City Council, Tuesday, September 22nd.

00:10We have approval of minutes from

00:12September 15th.

00:13>> Any issues, anyone?

00:15Okay.

00:17>> Appeals with request for waiver of the

00:19noise ordinance

00:21on September the 28th from 4:00 p.m.

00:23until 10:00 p.m. on Dauphin Street and

00:25September 26th from 4:00 p.m. until

00:2610:00 p.m. on Dauphin Island Parkway.

00:29>> Any issue, Councilwoman Ingram?

00:30>> Mr. [clears throat] President, if we can

00:32change um

00:34District 2 to 9:00 p.m. Thank you.

00:44>> Public hearings today is a public

00:45hearing to consider the modification of

00:47a previously approved put for a property

00:50located at 1, 3, and 5 Mobile Infirmary

00:53Circle, 166 at Mobile Infirmary Drive,

00:57168, 169, 171, 176, 177, 177,

01:02177, 185, 190, 191, 196 Mobile Infirmary

01:06Boulevard, 1700, 1720, 1740, 1768,

01:12and 1806 Springhill Avenue.

01:17Public hearing

01:18um to consider the proposed rezoning of

01:20property located on the west side of

01:23Winaker Avenue, 150 ft north of Virginia

01:26Street from R-1 to R-2.

01:31Presentation of petitions and other

01:33communications to the council,

01:34Antoinette Bell,

01:36uh providing information regarding the

01:37annual dedicated dental day event in

01:39Mobile.

01:41Ordinances held over 64038, consider the

01:43proposed rezoning of property located at

01:46255 Church Street from

01:48T

01:49dash 5.2 to T-6.

01:52>> Mr. President.

01:53>> Yes, ma'am.

01:54>> Um I'm requesting that we hold this over

01:56for um 30 days. Um, legal along with

01:59city administration, they've discussed

02:01the need for timing um, so that we can

02:05advertise and do this in a manner that

02:07will allow for this great development to

02:09take place, but to ensure that we're

02:11hearing to the DDD [clears throat] uh,

02:12code. And so, I'm asking that um, we lay

02:15it over for 30 days as we address

02:17adjacency issues.

02:20>> Okay. Any issues in the way?

02:22All right.

02:24>> 83-044,

02:26ordinance approving de-annexation of

02:29certain described land and redefining

02:31proposed reduced corporate limits.

02:33>> Mr. President

02:34>> Mr. Woods

02:35>> Um, obviously this uh, was on the agenda

02:37um, last week. It's the second read on

02:39it. Uh, after talking with the

02:41administration, um, been asked to lay

02:43this over a week. Um, I've I've agreed

02:46and I've talked to Mr. Fleming. Uh, he

02:47agrees as well and um, lay it over 1

02:49week and um, for for some further

02:51discussion revolving it. I I think

02:53there's some things that the

02:53administration wants to take a look at.

02:55So, asking to lay this over uh, for 1

02:57week.

02:58>> Okay.

03:00>> [clears throat]

03:01>> Resolutions held over, 09979,

03:04consider adoption of the 2026-2027

03:06general fund and capital improvement

03:08fund budgets.

03:09>> Mr. Woods

03:10>> Uh, yes Mr. President. Um, I know that

03:12uh, I guess over

03:15over the past couple days um, uh,

03:17conversations have happened. I know

03:18there's some amendments that uh, that

03:20want to be all offered on this um, and

03:23um, I did receive um, received some from

03:25Mr. Pan. Uh, received some from Mr.

03:27Reynolds.

03:28And um, I'll let them share if they'd

03:29like to share about their amendments,

03:31but I I think you know, given

03:33everybody's attitude, I I think we're

03:35ready to vote on this today if if y'all

03:36are amenable to it.

03:38>> We need to know exactly what all the

03:39amendments are.

03:41>> I'll explain.

03:42>> It's simple. It's just removing

03:44>> [clears throat]

03:45>> the amount in the civic center

03:46allocation of $1.5 million and returning

03:49it back to

03:51the unallocated fund balance

03:54uh, to reduce the amount of the transfer

03:56in from the unallocated fund balance.

03:58So, that's simple.

04:01>> And that's uh that's the that's the

04:03overarching amendment, Mr. President.

04:05And uh Mr. Vice President, I'll let Mr.

04:08Penn talk about um

04:10I guess obviously

04:12it has to be balanced. Everything has to

04:13balance. So, taking that out of the

04:15Civic Center,

04:17uh putting it back into the into the

04:18plan. I'll let Mr. Penn talk about his.

04:21>> Yeah, thank you um Councilman Woods. Um

04:23my amendment basically

04:25um utilize the money that was planned

04:28for the Civic Center the 1.5

04:30take $400,000, move it back into

04:33Brothers Working Together for the Port

04:35City Classic, um and then move $100,000

04:38to events. I believe the events team is

04:41doing amazing job. We have Amtrak coming

04:43in, and I believe we need to have right

04:46now they're doing two concerts um per

04:48year. I think we need to move to four um

04:51for the year, a concert a quarter. Um

04:53this give us an opportunity to highlight

04:55our tourism. Um we just got back from

04:58DC, great event, Visit Mobile um was

05:01sharing different things um that's

05:03taking place. And one of the feedback

05:05from a lot of the people who are

05:07traveling around um this nation is they

05:09love music, and this give us opportunity

05:12to highlight our music scene as well as

05:15um give people opportunity to shop, go

05:17to our restaurants, and spend money, but

05:18they don't have to buy a ticket. Um and

05:20I think that would bring great exposure.

05:22Thank you, Mr. President.

05:24>> And then uh Mr. President, um those are

05:26the only amendments um that I've

05:27received from council.

05:29Um

05:30with your permission, it would be remiss

05:31to check in with the administration. Is

05:33there any any amendments that that you

05:35need you see that you'd like us to to

05:36recommend or make?

05:40>> You know, one thing

05:43>> Thank you, and I I think all of those

05:44amendments are perfectly

05:46uh palatable and

05:47appreciate them.

05:49Uh looking at that 1.5, I do think

05:52that

05:54with the finances of the library after

05:56talking to them, they're going to need a

05:57little more than we allocated in this

05:59budget.

06:00Uh I don't know that we need to make up

06:01the whole uh 700 that was generally cut,

06:05but if

06:05uh looking at that 1.5, if you would add

06:08at this point another 400 towards the

06:10library, I think that's going to put

06:12them on good footing, and we can

06:14continue to work with them

06:16understanding what that bottom line is.

06:19>> You know, Mr. President, um I I would be

06:22willing after discussion I'd be willing

06:24to make the amendment or offer the

06:25amendment to the library.

06:27>> [clears throat]

06:28>> Okay.

06:29Any other council members?

06:30>> Uh Mr. President, I just want to uh say,

06:32you know, that this has been a

06:34interesting budget process, been good

06:35first budget.

06:37Uh I don't agree on I'm I'm not going to

06:40support the

06:42um

06:43transfer back to the Brothers Working

06:46Together, the 400,000 for the bowl game.

06:49And

06:50um

06:51this is really the ideal year for us not

06:53to put that money over to Brothers

06:56Working Together. For the first time, I

06:58believe

06:59uh the state of Alabama

07:01uh allocated $400,000

07:04to the Mobile Sports Authority to

07:06support Brothers Working Together in

07:07these various bowl games and this

07:09endeavor.

07:11And um you know, since they're getting

07:13400 from them, it's a good opportunity

07:14for us to back out and say the state's

07:17handling it this go round, and you know,

07:19we can they're basically level funded,

07:22uh it seems, and

07:24and look, it I understand that there's

07:27>> [clears throat and cough]

07:27>> you know, you want to expand and grow or

07:29whatever, but I you know, it's it's been

07:30going now for 4 years or so, and

07:33I just think it's time for us to

07:36tighten up our belt a little bit and say

07:38this year is the year that we're going

07:39to sit this one out. So, I won't support

07:42the

07:43the amendment of 400,000 to go to

07:47>> [snorts]

07:48>> uh Brothers Working Together. And also,

07:49I I'm

07:50I really have a desire to

07:54I know it's not detrimental necessarily

07:56to our budget to have to transfer, you

07:58know, money from the unallocated fund

08:00balance, but it's a bad We shouldn't be

08:02in that trend or that rhythm of doing

08:04it.

08:05And so, I think we have an opportunity

08:07to take some money and buy that now

08:10where we can start

08:12setting the stage for next year, saying

08:13we're not making a transfer, you know,

08:15unless some extraordinary situation came

08:16up. So,

08:18um that's where I'm at with it.

08:20>> Mr. President.

08:21>> Uh Mr. Mayor.

08:22>> [clears throat]

08:22>> Um I definitely hear my colleague. Um

08:25and I I think to me, the here the state

08:27is giving the Mobile Sports Authority

08:30the amount to be able to support

08:32different games. It's not just for one

08:34game on this amount, but it's it's their

08:36discretion to support what games and

08:38different amounts. Um when we want to

08:41have the best team, we need more

08:42funding.

08:43And I think the state have recognized

08:45that. Um and they have recognized that

08:48the city of Mobile was already

08:49supported. So, to add this funding, this

08:52just elevates the game so we can get um

08:55quali- um more qualified teams that

08:57people are excited about. It costs more

08:59money to get those type of teams. Um but

09:01when you look at the economic impact

09:04that's already provided without having

09:07the top-notch teams, um we still see um

09:11a reward from that. And I think

09:13elevating and bringing those type of

09:14teams, we'll just see even a bigger

09:16reward. So, this is an opportunity to

09:18highlight the great things that's taking

09:20in the city of Mobile. If we want people

09:22coming to our city spending money, we

09:23got to have events. Um but even at the

09:26same time, I'm excited that we now will

09:28have a real performance

09:30um review for hopefully for all our

09:33nonprofits and performance contracts, so

09:36we can get what we're asking for. And if

09:37not, then it's not emotional decision.

09:40It's based on real data. Thank you, Mr.

09:42President.

09:43>> Mr. President.

09:44>> Uh Madam.

09:46>> Um I want to echo um

09:48Councilman Penn's uh comments in the

09:51sense that um you know, we do need the

09:53evaluation system so that we are making

09:56informed decisions, but more

09:58importantly, um you know, I'm looking

10:00forward to the fact that if we do move

10:02forward this because we do want to

10:04improve our tourism and so forth. We

10:06know that we've given this organization

10:08the ample resources to try to to hit the

10:11mark. So, that when we use the

10:13evaluation, we are comfortable in making

10:15informed decision as to move forward for

10:17the next year. But, I also want to uh

10:19recognize that I'm not making any uh

10:21proposed uh amendments to the 2027

10:25budget. Instead, um my goal

10:28[clears throat] is to support the

10:29decision of the city administration, um

10:32their decision-making process, and hold

10:34the city administration accountable to

10:36the resources that they say are

10:38sufficient, sufficient and enough to

10:39deliver the services our neighbors need.

10:42For District 2, that means uh public

10:44services and municipal enforcement will

10:46be visible, consistent, and responsive.

10:50Quality of life services shouldn't be

10:51occasionally. It It should be something

10:53that's consistent, that they can see it.

10:55And the frequency should be felt so that

10:57they can take pride in where they live.

10:59So, um as we move forward, you know,

11:02administration stated that they have the

11:03resources they need in the budget. Now,

11:06the public is expecting us to deliver. I

11:08want to thank you all for the hard work.

11:09I heard you, Attorney Shreve, when you

11:11said, you know, the hours you all put

11:13into this and the work and so forth. So,

11:15now, you know, the public needs to stand

11:17back and watch you all deliver the

11:19services. So, thank you for the work

11:21that you did in getting us to where we

11:22are. Thank you.

11:24>> Mr. President.

11:25>> Yeah, Mr. Woods.

11:26>> Um just real quick, I I agree with Mr.

11:29with Mr. Reynolds. Obviously, at the end

11:32of the year un-

11:33money uh anything left rolls back in. Do

11:36we do we know Logan again I know it's

11:39kind of like saying

11:40kind of like asking you a

11:42is the cake is [clears throat] the cake

11:43going to turn out when it's halfway

11:45through if it's anything like me baking

11:46a cake it's totally going to fail. But

11:49since we're almost at the end of

11:50September

11:52still kind of got some some insight of

11:54where we at we kind of know projecting

11:55out what we got left to spend for this

11:57budget. What what will we be rolling to

12:00unassigned or or will we be running

12:02anything rolling anything

12:04and not holding you to it but I just you

12:06know in general.

12:09>> I always forget that.

12:11Do not hold me to it. We're comfortable

12:14that we're coming in a few.

12:17We should come in under budget this

12:19year. It's really how much um

12:24There was a resolution earlier this year

12:26where 11.8 million I believe is

12:28transferred from the general fund

12:31to the capital fund to fund arena

12:34furniture fixtures.

12:37In that resolution was that the capital

12:38fund you know reimburses the general

12:40fund when OBG makes their contribution

12:42to the arena 15 million.

12:45They made 7 and a half million of that

12:46which has come back to the general fund

12:49um

12:50There's another four so that's owed but

12:53so depends how if you count that four or

12:56not which should come next year but

12:59um

13:01I mean we we should be coming in under

13:02budget I'd say.

13:06It's just hard to put a number but

13:09>> I know I won't hold you to it.

13:10>> It it'll be a

13:13a few million little more than a few

13:14million.

13:15>> Got you. I appreciate it. Thank you.

13:17>> I just wanted to say

13:19my point being I guess is you know

13:21obviously we're not like the federal

13:23government a lot of times where it comes

13:25how much do you need and they benchmark

13:26budget so you got to go out, and you got

13:28to buy all the pins you can. You might

13:29have 5 years of pins so you don't you

13:31lose your funding and things like that.

13:32I I appreciate the thoughtfulness that

13:34went into this budget, and um obviously

13:37this is the mayor's first budget, and um

13:39that you know had to had to execute the

13:41previous one, but um had to got the

13:43opportunity to plan this one. So, I

13:44really do appreciate that. I just want

13:45to add that in as I appreciate all the

13:47thoughtfulness that went in. Um looking

13:50looking through the budget and asking

13:51questions, and then and then um you

13:53know, having finance committee meetings

13:55and and talking through things and just

13:56seeing the answers to the questions that

13:58that that y'all provided. Um

14:00uh really do does show the

14:01thoughtfulness in the budget. So, I just

14:02want to say thank you to you and your

14:03team. Um this has been very smooth, um

14:06and I know um

14:08leading the uh first first go at the

14:10finance committee, um obviously there

14:11was some criticism, but uh we uh we we

14:14got the ship back on track. So, I

14:15appreciate you guys um helping and uh

14:18everything that y'all did. With that, uh

14:20if there's anything else if there's any

14:21other amendments that we need to make, I

14:22guess we can make them from the floor,

14:24but I think that's all the amendments we

14:25got, Mr. President.

14:26>> Yeah.

14:27>> Mr. President.

14:28>> Yes.

14:28>> I too want to echo what you've heard. Um

14:31this has been one of the least

14:32contentious budgets in my memory. So,

14:35thank you very much for all the work.

14:37We had a lot of questions and concerns

14:39that uh we got the answers to very

14:41quickly. Very much appreciated. And um

14:45just talking about these amendments in

14:47public so that everybody knows what's

14:49going on is really unique sometimes. You

14:52know, I've been involved in budgets

14:53where amendments were offered, and

14:55nobody even knew that it was coming. So,

14:57thank you for all of that and for

14:58working with us and making this happen.

15:02>> Anyone else?

15:04Madam Clark.

15:06>> 01992,

15:08authorize agreement with Mardi Gras

15:09Artists for construction of Mardi Gras

15:12float. 08993,

15:14approve

15:15approve purchase order to VC3 for annual

15:18renewal of Think Guard Network cyber

15:20security and disaster recovery software

15:22services. 08996 approved purchase order

15:25to truck equipment sales for

15:28pickup truck and utility with utility

15:31bodies.

15:3221997

15:34authorized contract with Kimley-Horn

15:36and associates for City of Mobile

15:38material management project for

15:40congestion management.

15:4321998 authorized contract with AECOM

15:46technical services for City of Mobile

15:48material management project congestion

15:50management.

15:5237999 consider the application of

15:54Granberry Executive Transport for a

15:56certificate of public convenience and

15:57necessity to operate a shuttle, sedan,

15:59and limousine service.

16:01451000

16:04resolution to reaffirm previously

16:06accepted streets located in public

16:08low-rent housing project Alabama 2-5.

16:1260 1001 authorized settlement agreement

16:15and release of claims.

16:17>> Mr. President.

16:18>> Yes, Mr. Woods.

16:18>> Um, when ready, can we pull 01992 and

16:22take that separate?

16:25>> Which one?

16:26>> Uh,

16:2701992.

16:29>> Okay.

16:36Ordinance is being introduced. 64045

16:39consider a modification of a previously

16:40approved plan

16:42unit development for property located

16:45Mobile Infirmary Circle, Mobile

16:47Infirmary Drive, Mobile Infirmary

16:49Boulevard, and Springhill Avenue.

16:5264046

16:53considering a proposed rezoning of

16:55property located on the west side of

16:57Weinacker Avenue.

16:5964047

17:00consider the an ordinance to amend the

17:03entertainment district boundaries

17:05established under section 30-13A

17:08of the code of ordinances of the City of

17:09Mobile to expand the entertainment

17:11districts 1 and 3.

17:14>> Mr. President.

17:15>> Yes, Mr.

17:16>> Um, I I I understand maybe some of the

17:18necessity of doing this, obviously with

17:21the arena there. What are the

17:22implications of the expansion of the

17:25entertainment district? So, it it mean

17:27it I know it's that you can have open

17:30container, but what are some of the

17:31other things that are changed

17:36or expanded included?

17:39>> Yes, sir. Good morning. So, um what

17:42these proposed amendments will do is

17:44will allow licensees in the

17:47entertainment district to serve a uh go

17:51cup

17:52in either paper or plastic and it has

17:55either their license establishment their

17:57logo on it or the LODA logo on it. And

18:02that is what this allow allows. This

18:04allows the uh the customer to leave the

18:07licensed establishment with the go cup

18:10and to go

18:11while they're in the district to go to

18:13another

18:14uh establishment. So, the

18:17>> That's not it. I guess that's what my

18:18question is. What else?

18:19>> That is it.

18:21>> Does that affect uh hours of operation?

18:24>> Not of the licensees, no, sir. It is

18:26still within the state and the city.

18:27>> What about noise?

18:28>> The uh noise ordinance is still

18:31applicable in the entertainment

18:33district.

18:33>> So, the only entertainment district

18:35implication is you can walk around with

18:37one of these cups.

18:39>> Yes, sir.

18:40>> Yes, sir.

18:41>> Yeah, but Mr. President

18:44Um

18:45Sir, will you will Alfred will you share

18:47more about what areas were included in

18:49this one give so that they can

18:51understand the landmarks?

18:52>> Yes, absolutely. So, primarily the the

18:55driver of this was the Civic

18:57[clears throat] Center. And if you see

18:59the map there along Malaga Park, it

19:01doubles back because we want to include

19:03the sidewalks but not include the park

19:05because park drinking is illegal in

19:07parks. So, so that is the why behind um

19:10how that kind of doubles back there.

19:12Uh to Dr. Ingram's point,

19:15we've also included Deerfish

19:18at Government Street and and and um

19:20Bayou Street. We've included a

19:23yet-to-be-determined

19:25family hospitality concept being

19:26developed by uh Atchison Real Estate and

19:29Development after the the Folly's

19:31concept. And then third and finally, on

19:33Bayou Street, there is what seems like a

19:36random sidewalk, but that has been at

19:39the request of a property owner, kind of

19:42with conversations with MPD, um as a

19:45protective measure. They wanted to be

19:47included so that it could kind of affirm

19:49that the noise ordinance to to your

19:51point. So, um those that's the totality

19:56of the amendments and kind of how we got

19:58here.

19:59>> What do you mean?

20:00What do you mean

20:01affirm the noise ordinance?

20:04Well, does the ord- noise ordinance I'm

20:06sorry. I I and we'll find we'll get

20:07these answers, but I just want to ask

20:08publicly if

20:10Does the noise Does the noise ordinance

20:12apply to

20:15non-

20:16entertainment districts in the same way

20:18that it does in entertainment districts?

20:20>> Yes.

20:21>> So, what does that mean you have to

20:22affirm the noise ordinance? I don't know

20:24what that

20:25>> So,

20:27there is a an event venue nearby that uh

20:31causes um

20:36a lot of youth.

20:38And it's just affirmation that there's a

20:40noise ordinance, and so when youth come

20:43to this area, the police and neighbors

20:45want to be able to

20:48just solidify and affirm that, you know,

20:51the entertainment district is in effect

20:53I mean, that the noise ordinances are in

20:54effect and want

20:57to make sure that they have um

20:59the tools they think they need.

21:02>> All right, thank you for that.

21:03>> Yes, sir.

21:04>> I have a quick question, too.

21:05>> Yes, ma'am.

21:06>> So, I understand this is really the the

21:08same entertainment district with just

21:10some additions, correct? So, people will

21:12be able to walk from the Civic Center

21:13area on down toward downtown as long as

21:16they have a go cup with an establishment

21:19logo on it.

21:20>> Exactly, yes.

21:21>> Yeah, and the noise ordinance is in

21:23effect. The noise ordinance is the noise

21:25ordinance like everywhere else or is

21:27there something special for it? Okay.

21:30Okay.

21:31Mr. President.

21:33>> I was what in the end

21:35Um thank you, Fred. And I was just going

21:38to reaffirm what

21:39>> [clears throat]

21:39>> what Councilman

21:41Councilwoman Gregory said. But, um I

21:44I don't have a problem personally. I

21:45don't have a problem um expanding the

21:47entertainment district. I remember the I

21:49remember [clears throat] the

21:50conversation when it first when it first

21:53was implemented and I know why we got

21:55the the the break in between all that.

21:58And I know there's there's history

21:59behind that as well.

22:00Um and I I do think that that the

22:02entertainment district has provided very

22:05Excuse me.

22:05>> [clears throat and cough]

22:06>> Very positive things for for downtown.

22:08You know, any given time you you come

22:10down on on an on an evening or or

22:12especially when events are going on, you

22:14know, there's there's that there's that

22:15flow of people that are that are that

22:18are going to and fro events. Um but, I I

22:20would be remiss if I didn't express um

22:24I guess maybe um some enforcement issues

22:26that that that I've been at least in the

22:28past 2 months I've been approached at

22:31least three times about a

22:33I I think I

22:35I understand the concept of concept of

22:37the cup and you know, I definitely want

22:39the want to allow the the restaurant

22:42possibly maybe go out and buy a cheaper

22:43cup than what what could be acquired

22:45from from an entity. Um you know, I

22:48would be remiss to say that I've came

22:49down on Friday evenings, Saturdays, and

22:51Sundays and and um at times uh downtown

22:55in the in the evening hours especially

22:57um has kind of turned more into a block

22:59party style. Um you know, I I see I see

23:03containers um that aren't the cup coming

23:06into the district.

23:07And you know, I I think the whole

23:08purpose of the entertainment district

23:11not only is to make it more easier for

23:13the patron to go to to various

23:14establishment, but also too to to help

23:17the people down here that that built

23:18downtown with their business to to help

23:21them and encourage you that flow of

23:22people from from place to place. So, I

23:25just want to put on the radar that I

23:28understand the cup, I get the cup, I I

23:30get it, but I I think the thing we got

23:31to do something different. We got to

23:32think a little harder about what that

23:34cup looks like or or how we enforce that

23:36cuz like I said, you know, it's kind of

23:39sometimes at times it's like a BYOB

23:41party down here. And that that's just my

23:43only concern. And and again, I I want to

23:45maximize the businesses that are down

23:47here, make sure that they're they're

23:49getting the revenue and benefiting from

23:50the entertainment district, but I just

23:52want to make sure that we're we're

23:53enforcing or we encourage the

23:55enforcement a little little harder. I

23:57just think.

23:57And I know we have a public safety

23:59meeting later, so.

24:00>> [laughter]

24:01>> I guess we can talk about it there, huh?

24:02>> Mr. President.

24:05Um thank you uh Councilman Woods. I

24:07agree with you on that. And Fred, I just

24:09want to say thank you for the work

24:11you've put into this. The fact that, you

24:13know, we were able to talk with uh

24:15residents that might have expressed

24:16concerns, talk with the local businesses

24:18to make sure that the um

24:21individuals that have the potential to

24:23be impacted by this, they have bought

24:25into this. And I think that's so

24:26important that as we expand, as we make

24:28these decisions, we involve the uh

24:31community that's being impacted. So,

24:32thank you.

24:33>> Mr. President.

24:35Just want the public to know when they

24:36read it some people called me and was

24:38asking me about district one. Um this is

24:40this entertainment um district. So, you

24:43have district one, two, and three in in

24:45the entertainment district um

24:47plan. My question is um Fred, just to

24:51clarify. So, you see that I'm looking at

24:53the map right now. District three,

24:56district three is separate from District

24:58two and one. So,

25:01if they buy a cup from a, you know,

25:03restaurant or bar in District three, are

25:06you saying that they only can stay in

25:08that district they can't walk

25:10to District two cuz there's a space

25:12between that?

25:13>> Correct. Yes, sir.

25:15>> How would they know that?

25:16>> There are signs posted there.

25:18>> So, it's going to be on on each

25:21>> [snorts]

25:22>> perimeter that's going to say, "Stop

25:23here with your cup."

25:24>> Yes.

25:25>> I mean, I'm just using that.

25:27>> Okay. So, and and so, if they

25:29>> we have maps here

25:31uh just as an example because this

25:33wasn't yet adopted yet, but these are

25:35maps that we put up uh with

25:37entertainment district requirements,

25:38do's and don'ts in a map and we kind of

25:41put it up selectively

25:43uh downtown so that folks know. Yes,

25:45sir.

25:45>> And so, when they go outside District

25:47three and they're on Lamar Street, MPD

25:53will stop them?

25:53>> They'll drink their cup and yeah, throw

25:55it out and that kind of thing. Yes, sir.

25:56>> Tilman.

25:57>> Yes, sir.

25:58>> Okay.

25:58All right. Thank you.

25:59>> Yes, sir.

26:02>> Anyone else?

26:04>> Okay. Madam Clerk.

26:08>> Consent resolutions being introduced 58,

26:111002 and 1003 are declaring weeds

26:13noxious

26:14and assessing costs for removal of

26:16weeds, weed laying groups 1683 and 106.

26:2061,004 and 1005 are determining

26:23appropriations to the value city

26:25center

26:28center for the arts

26:30and playhouse in the park serve a public

26:32purpose and approve payment. CIP

26:34resolution

26:34>> before we go on,

26:36you guys on the uh consent resolutions,

26:39I think there was some confusion a

26:40couple three weeks ago on consent

26:42resolutions. They are there because we

26:44consent to vote on them, so we don't

26:46have to wave the rules on consent uh

26:48resolutions.

26:50So, Lisa will just call it out, go

26:52through the block of them, and then we

26:54vote.

26:56If you want to hold one over, you can

26:59vote against it or move to lay it over.

27:01But, consent is there for a reason. We

27:03put them there because we all consent to

27:05vote on them

27:07that day.

27:08>> By unanimous consent.

27:09>> By unanimous consent.

27:12>> Yes.

27:14>> Resolutions being introduced, 081000

27:197 through 081016

27:23approving purchase orders to Safe Haven

27:26Company,

27:27Best

27:28Price Services, Games Utility

27:30Construction Company, JJ Quality Homes,

27:33Southern Realty Management Group, Hughes

27:35360 Services, Scott Allen Construction,

27:38Secure Land and Tree,

27:41and Vulcan Construction Materials,

27:44and um A&D Cromwell Concrete and

27:47Construction for storm drainage

27:49vegetation debris removal.

27:53081017

27:55approve purchase order to University of

27:56South Alabama for 2026 fall semester

27:59advanced EMT courses for six

28:01firefighters, $41,000,

28:04$800,

28:05$98.

28:07081018 approve purchase order to Vision

28:10Southeast Companies for building access

28:13control system for 1900 Hurtel Street

28:16for Public Services,

28:17$200, $213.80.

28:22081019 approve purchase order to Truck

28:26Equipment Sales for Chevrolet

28:28Silverado truck

28:30dual rear wheel utility body, $90,984.

28:35081020

28:37approve purchase order to Aaron's

28:38Company for remote controlled mower,

28:41$35,479.86.

28:44081021 approve purchase order to

28:47Invasive Management for a storm drainage

28:49vegetation and debris removal.

28:53$23,848.

28:5608/10/22,

28:57approve purchase order to Rock Robotic

29:00for a light detection and ranging

29:02scanner system for Mount Space Station

29:04software and support.

29:07$33,099.

29:09>> Mr. President.

29:09>> Yeah, Mr. Runnels.

29:10>> What is a light detection and ranging

29:13scanner system?

29:17And hopefully you're not going to say

29:18something top secret for me.

29:20>> I will not today.

29:23I will tell you that it's an attachment

29:25for drones so that we can actually

29:27assess different areas, measure those

29:29areas. It could be used for buildings,

29:31it could be used for roadways,

29:34pretty much anything.

29:37All right.

29:39>> 21/10/23, authorize agreement with

29:42Arrington Curb and Excavation for fire

29:44training center improvements,

29:45$214,284.86.

29:49Call for public hearings, 41/10/24,

29:52call for public hearing to consider the

29:54vacation of a public alleyway adjacent

29:57to property located north of 144

30:00Highland Highland Avenue, scheduled

30:03October 27th.

30:06District 1.

30:0741/10/25,

30:08call for public hearing to consider a

30:10vacation fee

30:12as a condition of the vacation of public

30:15alleyway adjacent to property located

30:18north of 144 Highland Avenue.

30:21Schedule October 27th. Announcements.

30:24>> Mr. President, go ahead and see what we

30:26can wave.

30:26>> Yeah, I will. But before we get to that,

30:29reminder, there is a public safety

30:31committee meeting this afternoon. We

30:33pushed it until 2:30.

30:35Um, we have a list of all of the

30:38questions and concerns that have been

30:40received and they will be on a written

30:42agenda when we get to the meeting. You

30:44still have time if there's anything else

30:46you would like to discuss, please go

30:48ahead and get those in.

30:49If we find that there's just too much to

30:52get through today, you know, we will

30:54schedule a second meeting. So, again, if

30:57you have any other questions, concerns,

30:59please let us know.

31:00In the meantime, let's look at what all

31:02we can wave today.

31:04And there are a bunch.

31:06Resolutions held over.

31:0909

31:11979

31:13And

31:15next page.

31:18Well, I'm missing my page here. Hang on

31:20a second.

31:25Uh then we go all the way down to

31:28Everything's expensive today, so go down

31:30to

31:31uh resolutions

31:3408 1007 08 1008 09

31:411010 1010

31:43uh 1011 1012

31:461013 14 15 16 17 and 20.

31:53Did I miss one?

31:54>> 1021

31:55>> 1021

31:57>> 1022

31:58>> Um

31:59Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. They were there.

32:01Yeah, that's that's right. I

32:03I'm going to wrap it Anything else?

32:05>> Any issues in the way?

32:07Okay. And then

32:09>> Yes, sir.

32:09>> Yeah. Mr. Reynolds

32:10>> I got two things. Um first one is for

32:13the

32:13>> [clears throat]

32:13>> acting city clerk or Mr. President. Uh

32:16ordinarily we

32:18do a resolution to roll over unspent

32:21um

32:23discretionary funds to a capital

32:24account. Will we see that next week?

32:27Okay. Next week.

32:28All right. The other one is uh regarding

32:30this fire training facility that we're

32:33allocating 200 and something thousand

32:34dollars to. Are we still in pursuit of a

32:37regional training center for police and

32:39fire? And if so, where are we at with

32:42that?

32:44Any update? I mean, federal, you know,

32:47grants, you know, we have applications

32:50in. Where do we stand?

32:53>> [clears throat]

32:54>> Um we're still pretty much in the

32:56conceptual phase. We got pretty active

32:59on site trying to find a site location.

33:01We've really not been active on trying

33:03to do that or proceed with that. We do

33:05look for funding opportunities to

33:07support the center similar to what

33:09Dothan and I think some of y'all went

33:10and looked at the Dothan facility. Um

33:13but really from the conceptual stage

33:15that's about all we've gotten.

33:17>> Well, I just want to make sure we don't

33:18lose it in the shuffle as we're talking

33:20about all these other big projects and

33:23you know, entertainment related things

33:25or

33:26transportation and that it doesn't get

33:28lost in the shuffle. I think it would

33:29be,

33:30you know, a

33:31very positive thing for us that as we

33:34plan our capital budget going forward or

33:36our unallocated fund balance that

33:40it's not going to make us money, right?

33:42I get it. Where some of these

33:43entertainment venues and stuff may,

33:46you know, make us money or break even.

33:47That's a necessity for us. That we

33:49really need to prioritize that along

33:52with of course the, you know, new police

33:54station, those sort of things.

33:56Those are just ordinary things I think

33:58we need to not lose [clears throat]

33:59track of.

33:59>> We agree. We agree.

34:00>> Mr. President.

34:01>> Yeah, Ms. West.

34:02>> Along that same line, I know that

34:05maybe this was passed in the previous

34:07administration, but there was a plan for

34:09the unsheltered population where they

34:10were going to build

34:12a facility that would have comprehensive

34:14services and it was done through the

34:15Rain Group. Can we get an update on

34:17where we are with that?

34:20>> What I can't tell you right now is that

34:23we are working with ADEM. ADEM is we've

34:26had some conversation with the Rain

34:27Group and ADEM relative to uh

34:31getting this

34:32facility built. Uh I can give I cannot

34:35give you a timeline at this moment. I

34:37can tell you that federal dollars

34:41through through the state it takes a

34:43while to get them.

34:44So, until we get those dollars, uh we're

34:47waiting until uh we can get that

34:49approval from ADEM and get the funding.

34:51Yeah, okay.

34:53>> Uh ADEM.

34:54>> ADEM.

34:54>> Yeah, ADEM. Um so, this is one of the

34:57disaster-funded projects, uh CDBG-DR

34:59funded projects. Um it's the

35:01former property we had on Shell Beach

35:03Road. So, we're looking at that.

35:04Thompson Engineering is actually

35:05working. We had a a site selected in

35:07that bigger footprint. Um

35:09the topography drops off on the

35:11backside, so we're having to shift where

35:12the building's going to go. So, they're

35:14re-redoing the site plan, and then we'll

35:15get that to ADEM and try to get approval

35:17on it.

35:17>> Okay, thank you.

35:18>> Yeah.

35:19>> And then, my next question, Ms.

35:21President, um I I just can't I'm so

35:23excited about what's happening with the

35:25drainage um and the vegetation and

35:27debris removal. I noticed that Mr.

35:29Reynolds has like four of them on here.

35:31Um

35:32my question is, um in terms of the um

35:37identifying which ones come first, do we

35:39have a schedule on that, or is just like

35:41whichever comes first? And

35:43>> You know, I I can't speak to the

35:45specifics. Uh

35:46Mr. Anderson's out today. He had um

35:49you know, [snorts] a family issue uh

35:51to deal with, and certainly thinking

35:53about him right now. Um you know, to my

35:56knowledge, there there were a few

35:58working plans early on how to best

36:00attack this, whether we start

36:02downstream, upstream, and uh generally,

36:05I think it has been spot treatment at

36:07this point. You know, where where do we

36:09identify the worst issues and and begin

36:12to pick them off one by one.

36:14Uh as soon as he's back, I'll make sure

36:16that we get you

36:17an overview of everything that we've

36:18done and and what the upcoming pieces

36:20are.

36:21>> Thank you, Mayor.

36:24>> Anyone else?

36:26Anything from the administration?

36:28Okay.

36:28We'll see you all downstairs at 10:30.

36:32>> Hey, man.