2026-08-03 - City Council

00:09Yeah, I love you.

00:28Now that

00:52is quiet.

00:55[laughter]

01:06>> [clears throat]

01:07>> Well, we did all

01:13better.

01:33Good evening.

01:34>> Good evening.

01:35>> I better back that up a little bit. H

01:38[laughter]

01:39>> that better.

01:41>> Thank you. Yeah. Uh as you probably

01:44figured out by now, I'm not Mayor Ed

01:46Hooks. He's he could he's unavailable

01:48tonight. So I'll be as mayor pro Tim.

01:50I'll be filling in for him. And we have

01:52h a guest tonight, guest pastor Craig

01:54Hammond from the Cross Link Church uh to

01:57do our uh invocation. Pastor,

02:01>> the mic's yours. Yes, sir.

02:04>> Thank you so much for being here.

02:06>> Thank you.

02:07>> Let's pray.

02:10Heavenly Father, we love you, Lord. We

02:11thank you for such a beautiful day that

02:13you've given to us and just for the

02:15honor of be able being able to to come

02:18here and uh to be a part of um of this

02:21city government. And we thank you for

02:23allowing us to move back to North

02:25Carolina uh to this great city and to

02:28serve alongside Cross Link Church and

02:31all the people that are there. Uh Lord,

02:33thank you for all of the council members

02:35that are here and the business that

02:37they're doing. We ask that you'd give

02:38them guidance, wisdom in all that they

02:40do. And uh Lord, we just thank you for

02:42the citizens of Mebban. And just ask God

02:45that this meeting would uh be uh

02:49conducted in a way that might honor and

02:51glorify you and and just progress the

02:53people here in this city uh to be uh an

02:57absolute light throughout North

02:59Carolina. We love you, Lord, and thank

03:00you for this time in Jesus name. Amen.

03:02>> Amen.

03:04>> Thank you so much.

03:07uh as we uh do on occasion, we have a

03:09couple of proclamations. But before we

03:11start get into the proclamations, I have

03:13just I'm going to just take just a

03:14moment of special privilege. This is my

03:1746th wedding anniversary. Vicki, my wife

03:20Vicki sitting on the back [applause]

03:23[laughter]

03:25and you're spending it with us.

03:27>> Anybody can put up with me for 46 years

03:29is a good one.

03:31and and what a wonderful anniversary day

03:34to come to a city council meeting.

03:36[laughter]

03:37But I have a proclamation here of uh

03:41Meban farmers market week. Uh whereas

03:44the city of Meban is extremely proud of

03:46our downtown Meban farmers market now 18

03:49years old. And whereas farmers market

03:51promotes healthy communities by

03:53increasing access to nutritious locally

03:56grown foods, encouraging healthy eating

03:58habits and serving as vibrant community

04:01gathering places. And whereas farmers

04:03markets play a key role in strengthening

04:05our food system and fostering

04:07sustainability, resilience, and food

04:10security in our region. can whereas

04:13farmers market contribute to the local

04:15economy by supporting agricultural

04:17entrepreneurs for both youth and adults

04:20and small businesses while helping to

04:22preserve farmland and rural livelihoods.

04:25And whereas farmers market offers ways

04:28for new farmers to enter the marketplace

04:29and connect farmers directly to

04:31consumers.

04:33And whereas the economic impact of

04:35farmers markets not only include direct

04:37benefits to farmers and affiliated

04:39businesses, but also benefits the

04:41community by stimulating downtown

04:43revitalization and enhancing community

04:46engagement. And whereas the Meban City

04:48Council recognizes the important

04:51importance of expanding agricultural

04:53marketing opportunities that ex assist

04:55and encourage the next generation of

04:57farmers and ranchers, generate farm

04:59income to help stimulate business

05:01development and job creation and build

05:04community connections. And whereas

05:06farmers markets offer a vibrant and

05:09inclusive space for education and

05:11engagement where individuals can learn

05:13about food production, nutrition, and

05:15community. Now therefore, to further

05:18awareness of farmers market

05:19contributions to Meban Life, I reading

05:22for Mayor Ed Hooks do hereby proclaim

05:24the week of August 2nd through 8, 2026

05:28as National Farmers Market Week in Meban

05:31in in conjunction with the observance of

05:33National Farmers Market Week. I call

05:35upon our citizens to celebrate the

05:37important contributions of farmers

05:40markets and the hardworking farmers,

05:42vendors, organizers and volunteers who

05:45make them possible with appropriate

05:46observance and activities in witness

05:49thereof August 26.

05:53Congratulations. We've already presented

05:54the uh proclamation.

06:00We have another one uh

06:04a proclamation on the national recovery

06:07month which is September 2026.

06:11Whereas national recovery month

06:13established in 1989 is observed each

06:16September to celebrate the millions of

06:17people whose lives have been transformed

06:19through recovery. promote evidence-based

06:22treatments and recovery practices and

06:24recognize the dedicated individuals,

06:26organizations, and communities that make

06:28recoverable recovery possible. And

06:31whereas the 2026 National Recovery Month

06:34theme, recovery is real, restoring every

06:36aspect of life, highlights that recovery

06:39is possible when individuals have access

06:41to effective treatment, supportive

06:44services, and com compassionate

06:46communities. And whereas substance use

06:48and overdose prevention remains critical

06:51priorities in Alamance counties and

06:53throughout North Carolina, underscoring

06:55the importance of prevention, treatment

06:57and recovery, support and education. And

07:01whereas local data continues to

07:03demonstrate the need to strengthen

07:04access to treatment, recovery resources,

07:08and harm reduction services to better

07:10support individuals, families, and

07:12communities affected by sub substance

07:14abuse disorders. And whereas during the

07:1737th observance of National Recovery

07:20Month, community partners across

07:21Alamance County and neighboring counties

07:23are working collaboratively to expand

07:26awareness, reduce stigma, and ensure

07:28that recovery support ex is accessible

07:31to all who need it because recovery

07:33truly restores every aspect of life. Now

07:37therefore, I reading for Ed Hooks, mayor

07:39of the city of Meban, do hereby proclaim

07:41September 26, 2026 as National Recovery

07:46Month in the city of Meban and encourage

07:48all residents recognize the importance

07:50of recovery, support those on their

07:52recovery journey journey, and join in

07:55efforts to build healthier, stronger,

07:57and more resilient communities. Let's

08:00give both of those uh groups a hand.

08:02[applause]

08:04Before

08:10we get into uh public comments um and

08:14prior to the consent agenda, uh we've

08:16had quite a bit of email um and uh

08:20conversation about the issues involving

08:23Evolve uh the road road stub uh and the

08:27connections to Arbor Creek and to just

08:30to make sure that we're we all have the

08:32most recent information publicly which

08:35our staff has researched through the

08:37minutes and and videos. I've asked staff

08:40if they would to to uh give us an update

08:43on what they found in reviewing uh the

08:46issue concerning the stub out road and

08:49between Arbor Creek and Evolved

08:51Communities and I think you each have a

08:52packet on it as well. Uh who's going to

08:56do that?

08:58>> Are you going to start? The attorney

09:00will kick it off.

09:01>> Dawson, you're recognized. Thank you,

09:03mayor. Uh, mayor, members of the

09:05council, and for the benefit of the

09:06public, we've had an opportunity since

09:09that issue has been raised to go back

09:11and review the minutes and the motion

09:14and the approval letter regarding this

09:18particular development. And in fact, the

09:21uh uh plat for phase two of evolve is on

09:24your agenda for tonight. Based on our

09:29review of the record, we are of the

09:31opinion that it was a stubout road and

09:34not a cold desc. Uh even though there

09:38was discussion of both ways. U you may

09:42have been provided by a citizen some

09:44information relative to that. uh that

09:48memo did not reveal or state the entire

09:53uh records. Miss Miss Owen had done an

09:57excellent job going back through the

09:59records and her conclusion supported by

10:02myself and other staff is that it was a

10:04stubout and not a culde-sac.

10:09There is a a

10:12stubout and there are se several

10:14stubouts in the city and the at present

10:19the road that evolve has uh extended

10:23westward toward Manorfield. There are

10:26two concrete barriers there that they

10:28have installed during construction that

10:31prevent construction traffic from

10:33entering or exiting Manorfield. And at

10:37the conclusion of their uh construction

10:40i.e. the uh building of the road there

10:43will be signs put on both sides the

10:47stubout road from Manorfield going to

10:49the east and stubout road from the

10:51evolve going to the west. Uh and that is

10:54similar to the signage that's uh on the

10:59subdivision just west of Mannerfield

11:01that Manorfield connects with. They have

11:04a stubout street as well that is marked

11:07prominently by signage. Uh so that is

11:11the conclusion of staff. as to the uh

11:15final plat approval on evolve. uh that

11:18shows the stub out uh the rule of law in

11:22North Carolina as you as you will

11:24remember from our discussion uh and

11:28debate uh having to do with the

11:31subdivision out at Kate's Farm is that

11:35if a plat complies with the uh

11:39requirements of the

11:42statute which we have concluded that it

11:44does that uh the council has no

11:47discretion session other than to approve

11:48it. So those are my comments. I'm happy

11:51to answer any questions and I'm sure

11:53that other staff is able to answer

11:56anything that I cannot

11:59a question and you said that research

12:01showed

12:02a stub out or culdeac but when I voted I

12:06I was my thinking was called a sac.

12:12not what the motion and words say. And

12:15in fact, the developer offered a

12:17culde-sac and y'all voted uh it from the

12:20record on on a um uh stub out and not a

12:25culdeac.

12:32>> Yeah, if you read through the minutes

12:33and I think you have you have a packet.

12:35If you read through the minutes, um it

12:37it [clears throat] went back and forth

12:38between culde-sac and sub. I think the

12:40final the final conclusion was um and

12:43the final comment was uh just connected

12:48stub out not a

12:49>> and then right here it says Montana says

12:51that's with the road culde-sac I asked

12:53that question mayor said yes then

12:55Montrina said okay yes I vote for it so

12:59that was why I stated that's why I said

13:02culde-sac because that's what I was

13:03thinking

13:06>> yeah I think the after a question from a

13:08reporter Um

13:11the uh just cl

13:13the he asked for clarification. Uh I

13:17said stub out, the mayor said culde-sac,

13:20you said who said culde-sac? And then uh

13:23attorney Lawson Brown said I thought it

13:25was a stubout and Jonathan said not

13:28connected and the mayor said right. So

13:31it's just not connected. Uh and then

13:33attorney Lawson Brown two last sentences

13:36were a stub out just not connected. Uh

13:39that was the final that was the final

13:42result.

13:44The reason I wanted to make sure we had

13:45this discussion I think we all

13:47remembered it differently. I remembered

13:49it as a stubout. Uh you remembered it as

13:52sac. But the final the final word from

13:54the final decision on that night was

13:57just not connected stub out.

14:01>> For what it's worth my my intent with

14:03the motion was a stubout.

14:08there was confusion in the meeting and I

14:10think that's one of the reasons someone

14:12asked for clarification

14:15uh and uh that was the final I think

14:19what final dec comments by the attorney

14:23that night and and they've done the

14:25review of the of the uh notes and

14:28minutes as well and videos. Any other

14:32questions for Lawson?

14:38Okay, we have a couple of public

14:39comments before we get to the consent

14:41agenda. Peggy Morel, is that right? Uh

14:43Peggy, uh

14:47come you can come on up to the mic and

14:48just state your name and address and uh

14:50have you have three minutes

14:53and welcome.

14:54>> Welcome. Thank you. Um

14:58thank you for allowing me to speak

15:00tonight. My name is Peggy Morurell and

15:03my husband and I live in Phillis on

15:05Fifth here in Meban. Um I am here on

15:10behalf of Mebban in Motion which is a

15:14breast cancer awareness walk for October

15:1710th. Um this is in honor of our

15:20daughter who we lost to breast cancer.

15:24And this fundraiser has been organized

15:27to raise awareness to honor survivors

15:30and remember all those that we have lost

15:32to this disease.

15:34We plan to provide all financial help to

15:38UNCC Lineberger's Comprehensive Cancer

15:41Center to benefit individuals and

15:44families affected by breast cancer. Our

15:47goal is to bring our community together

15:50around a cause that touches so many

15:52lives.

15:53We're asking for Meban support by

15:56helping us to promote the event and to

15:59encourage community participation.

16:02We believe we will not only raise funds

16:05but also strengthen our compassion and

16:07unity within Meban.

16:10Thank you for your time, your service to

16:12Meban, and your consideration. I'd be

16:16happy to answer any questions you may

16:17have. Ma'am, could you share a digital

16:20flyer with us via

16:22>> I have flyers if you would like.

16:24>> Yes, I would appreciate one. Thank you.

16:31>> Nice. Nice.

16:35>> Thank you.

16:37>> Also, if you'll get up with Kelly, she

16:39can assist by putting something on the

16:41website.

16:44>> I was going to ask what what time and

16:46where. So this is at the

16:48>> Mac

16:50[clears throat]

16:50>> at 9:00.

16:51>> Perfect. Thank you.

16:52>> Yeah. Thank you.

16:55>> Thank you so much.

16:58>> Uh next we have Carl Bradley.

17:01>> Carl.

17:04Name and address.

17:06>> Got three minutes.

17:08>> My name is Carl Bradley. 4610 Mevin

17:11Rogers Road. Uh here for a couple

17:15things.

17:16Uh

17:18the I keep getting a lot of questions

17:21about that light that's on Fifth Street

17:23that is been covered up for I don't know

17:26how long since it went up if there was

17:29any date on when that was going to

17:31become active.

17:33And then my second thing is uh the

17:36people from the dog park both the

17:38morning and the evening group would like

17:41to thank you for getting us the table

17:44the P the new picnic table. It's It's

17:48big. It's heavy, but it's it's great.

17:52Everybody likes it. And the dogs like

17:55it. They've been up on it, around it,

17:57under it. It's it's just a fun time for

18:01all. And uh I just came from there and I

18:04was sitting on it, but on the bench, but

18:07I was sitting there. Uh other than that,

18:11you know, we always need mulch. Always.

18:14Uh then I'm I'm talking to uh

18:19I can't think of his name, the parks

18:22guy. Uh

18:25and I may be coming up with something

18:27for the small side, a table chair kind

18:30of kind of thing. I have some stuff at

18:33the house that was left over from when

18:36McDonald's had remodeled years ago and

18:39it's just taking up room in my garage.

18:41So, I may may be able to come up with

18:44something to put in there because that's

18:46the other thing everybody's been asking

18:48me about is another chair or bench

18:52across from the Hello.

18:56across from the one that's already

18:57there. But, uh, we'll work on that and

19:01he can work on that as well. But, uh, I

19:04appreciate your time. Thank you all.

19:07It's always fun coming here. Well,

19:09almost always funny coming here. And

19:12thank you for letting Stella arrive. All

19:14right, Stella. Back to the

19:21>> Stan Ker.

19:25>> Come on up.

19:28>> Good evening.

19:30>> Hi there.

19:32Do I need to give my name and address?

19:33>> Name and address. Yes, just for the

19:35record.

19:36>> Stan Kesler, 912 Palm Court. Min, North

19:39Carolina 27302.

19:41All right. So, um, first of all, I want

19:44to say hello, uh, city council members.

19:47I'm really missing seeing Ed Hooks here,

19:51uh, because, um, uh, last month in July,

19:54I met with Mayor Hooks, and I met to

19:56discuss the city council's vote to

19:59approve the evolved development

20:01[clears throat] with the condition of

20:02Culdeac. And uh so in that meeting in

20:06his office, we carefully looked at the

20:08video uh of the meeting and we looked at

20:11the council meeting minutes and we saw

20:14there that the developer voluntarily

20:16offered to put in a culde-sac and not

20:19connect the very last words out of the

20:22mouth of the developer. His very last

20:25words were,

20:28let me read it here.

20:36He said, "If you would rather that we

20:38cult, we'd be more than happy to."

20:42That was his offer. Now, we saw that

20:45when the final vote for approval and the

20:47condition was made that Montrina Hadley

20:49asked a great clarifying question and

20:52she said uh that's with the road culdeac

20:55and the mayor said yes

20:58and there was no other discussion at

21:00that [clears throat] time and the v the

21:02vote went down the voice vote and passed

21:06and so I asked the mayor what does this

21:08mean and at that meeting I had with him

21:10last month he uh agreed with me that the

21:14vote was for a culde-sac. I checked

21:17later on with Montrina Hadley and she

21:20said, "Yeah, that was the intent of my

21:22question when we were voting to see that

21:24that was the case."

21:26It's not ambiguous or vague. Uh I have

21:30heard from uh the attorney um that he

21:33and staff have uh let me know today that

21:37they've looked at it and don't see it

21:39the same way and that all they see the

21:41vote calling for was a stubout. Stub out

21:44wasn't really part of the um main

21:47discussion

21:48at the present time. That's what it

21:50looks like. At the present time the

21:52curbing has been done and it doesn't

21:54look like a culde-sac. And so now the

21:56staff is proposing a new site plan.

22:01Interestingly enough, it's almost

22:02identical to the very first site plan

22:06that Evolve presented,

22:08which the community opposed and urged

22:12against. And uh you take a look at it at

22:17the proposed site plan. It looks like a

22:21road that's going to connect.

22:24Yes, I know. at the moment. At the

22:26moment, right now, the curbing uh has

22:29stopped about 20 ft short of our

22:31property and there's a little pile of

22:33dirt across the road

22:38for

22:40Okay. What I wanted to say is that the

22:44the little pile of dirt doesn't mean a

22:46thing because the proposed site plan is

22:50everything. The plan is everything and

22:53it looks like a road that will connect.

22:56It looks like the original plan that was

22:59proposed. It looks like a road that will

23:01connect. It shows no unpaved areas

23:04separating the two developments. And so

23:07in a matter of days, the developer could

23:08come through with concrete curbing and

23:11black top and hook right up to our

23:14development and no one would be able to

23:15stop them. So, I'm urging the council

23:18tonight um to um not approve the

23:22proposed site plan because it looks like

23:27a connecting road and that needs to

23:29change. And thank you very much.

23:31>> Thank you for your time.

23:35>> I think that's all on the public

23:37comments.

23:38Uh next on our agenda we have the

23:41consent agenda

23:43approval of minutes uh for our June 1st

23:46meeting and our July 6th meeting. Final

23:48plat approval for Mal run uh plan final

23:52plat approval for evolve phase two final

23:55plat approval Cambridge Park phase 4A

23:58and the downtown meban quarterly report

24:03fourth quarter report for fiscal year

24:052526. Just had one quick question about

24:07the evolve and or do we want to pull

24:09that out or pull it out?

24:11>> Okay.

24:12>> Request to pull that out of the consent

24:13agenda.

24:14>> Sure.

24:14>> Okay. And

24:16>> Okay. We need a motion to uh approve the

24:18consent agenda without the u item number

24:21uh C.

24:22>> So move.

24:23>> Second.

24:25>> Any discussion?

24:27Hearing none. All in favor say I. I.

24:30Nay. Motion carries. So we're back to

24:34item C.

24:38the uh final plat approved for evolve

24:40phase two.

24:41>> Definitely wanted to get clarification

24:44on the constituents uh concern about the

24:46developer just being able to um pave

24:49that 10, 15, 20 foot section. Can staff

24:52clarify that?

24:54>> Yeah, I think it's important to

24:55distinguish what we have on the consent

24:57agenda. This is a plat, not a site plan.

25:01So briefly what happens with a

25:03conditional resoning request is there's

25:05a sight specific plan reviewed by staff.

25:08It's presented to planning board and

25:10considered by the city council. That

25:12happened three years ago in August for

25:13evolve. After that they come back to our

25:16technical review committee with

25:18construction plans. The construction

25:20plans are approved before a plat. Um the

25:25developer is required to do a minimum

25:27bit of improvements before they can get

25:29a plat. So they have to install anything

25:32that's underground. They have to pave

25:34streets, do all this work before a plat

25:37gets recorded because once a plat is

25:39recorded, homes can be built.

25:41So the construction plans for Evolve

25:44were approved in September 2025. And on

25:46those construction plans are the details

25:49that the developer is bound to follow

25:51unless they come back to staff and

25:52revise. We have not received a revision.

25:55Those construction plans show that the

25:57two streets will not connect. There will

25:59be 10 to 15 feet of nothing between the

26:02pavement. There will be signs installed

26:05in order to indicate that the streets

26:07are not connected. You'll notice on the

26:09plat that the street is named Shady Park

26:13Drive. It's not Longleaf Pine Place.

26:15That's required by Alamance County

26:16Emergency Services because they're not

26:18connected. They have to have different

26:20names. So everything um that we've

26:24approved so far shows no connection. The

26:27plat that's before you is meant to show

26:30the dedication of rideofway, the

26:31boundaries of lots of easements. And so

26:34what's shown is the ride ofway

26:36dedication and that is needed because of

26:39public utilities that are in that area

26:42and storm water.

26:46Lawson, Newton, if if you don't mind

26:47weighing in on this. I guess my my uh

26:50understanding would be that since we

26:53have determined that the road is not to

26:55be connected, uh in order for that to

26:57ever change, that'd have to be a a

27:00public hearing.

27:01>> There would have to be a public hearing.

27:03They would need someone would have to

27:06come back to you and ask for connection

27:09of those two roads and it would have to

27:11be considered by you because you voted

27:15in our opinion for a stub out. If it had

27:17been a culde-sac, it would not have been

27:18connected either. So there should be no

27:21connection without y'all's approval or a

27:24future council's approval after a public

27:27hearing since it is a matter of real

27:29estate.

27:30>> I have another question. So on the uh

27:32final plat is not showing

27:35um you stated there was going to be

27:37signs put there where um it's where

27:40people can't um squeeze through there

27:43because the email that we got from the

27:45citizens said if you do not uh space

27:47them properly, a vehicle could get

27:49through there. Shouldn't that be shown

27:52as a note on this final plant

27:55uh like we used to do? So, yeah, I've

27:59emailed with the developer today and

28:00they have agreed to a note which I can

28:04read aloud. Um, but a surveyor isn't

28:07going to certify to something that

28:08doesn't physically exist on the ground.

28:11So, the sign locations are not expected

28:14to be shown on a plat. I don't think

28:16professionally a surveyor would show

28:18signs that haven't been installed yet on

28:20the plat to be recorded with registered

28:22deeds.

28:23>> Okay. Now, at one point we used to put

28:25that on the final plat. We had the notes

28:27that stated the road would not be

28:28connected and all these different

28:30details. So, what I'm saying is it needs

28:34to show on that final plaque. It can be

28:37done and if we take it off the agenda

28:41tonight and have the what's in front of

28:44us showing us what's going to be on the

28:46ground, you can put it back on the

28:47agenda next month and we vote for it.

28:49You don't have to do it because what's

28:51going to happen is if you don't if you

28:52don't say it now, it won't be done. And

28:54then once folks start easing through

28:56there and taking those ATBs and

28:58motorcycles and all that and easing

29:00through there, we're going to have a

29:01problem. That's why it was very very

29:03important to have it uh documented

29:06anyway. So, we have the approval letter

29:08and you said it says either or. We we we

29:10understand that. And you said stub out,

29:12although I meant culde-sac, but it's

29:14very critical to me that it says it in

29:17those notes that I think it was on the

29:20original plan. you have it where they

29:23cannot squeeze through there. You know

29:24what I'm talking about because I wrote

29:25out there today and it looks like

29:27somebody might try to ease and open it

29:29up at some point not knowing, you know,

29:31it could be somebody new to the city and

29:33I said somebody would do it. But that's

29:35that's the way I see it. And when when I

29:38was planning director, I had to put all

29:40these notes on that final plaque. It had

29:42to be done. So I'm asking you, Lawson,

29:44can we do that?

29:47>> Yes. And I think Ashley has got the

29:49language that u she is suggesting and

29:53the developer has agreed to on the

29:55non-connection.

29:56>> Yes. Um the language reads development

29:59of the site is subject to conditions of

30:01the zoning district detailed in the

30:02letter from the city of Meban dated

30:04April 4th, 2024. And the construction

30:06plan stamped approved by the city of

30:08Meban in September 2025. specifically

30:11Shady Park Drive is to remain

30:12disconnected from Longleaf Pine Place

30:15with appropriate signage placed between

30:17the two streets.

30:18>> Right. To be placed on the final plat

30:20that we're looking at tonight.

30:21>> And that'll be

30:22>> that is a note to be a note to be added

30:24on the plat. Yes.

30:26>> But it's not on the one we're looking at

30:27now,

30:28>> but it could be approved with the note

30:31being added.

30:32>> That's right. And we need to see it on

30:33there is what I'm saying. Not that staff

30:35is going to do it. We take staff word

30:36for it. So you can put it back on the

30:38agenda next month and we sit and vote

30:40for it is what I'm saying. So we gonna

30:42have something to protect the the

30:45neighborhood.

30:46>> Well, I'm confirming that I will follow

30:48through and make sure that the note is

30:50on there and the city clerk also has to

30:53sign and affirm that it matches what

30:55council has approved. So I think there

30:57are two layers to ensuring that the note

31:00is included on the plat.

31:07So uh we [clears throat] have before

31:09final final approver for the evolve

31:12phase 2 plat and with a motion or to

31:16approve or not approve or the table. Um

31:20then approval should state that the note

31:22read by by Ashley would be added to the

31:26to the um final plat prints.

31:30So what's your pleasure?

31:35>> I make a motion to approve the final

31:37plat for evolve phase 2 with the note

31:40that Ashley uh read attached to that a

31:44plat word for word exactly as she read

31:46it. Second.

31:50>> Have a motion and a second on the floor

31:52to approve the final plat for evolve

31:54phase two with the note uh that add

31:57Ashley read added to the note uh to the

32:00final prints. Uh any any any further

32:03discussion?

32:04>> No further discussion. I'm just going to

32:06say no because I want to see it on

32:07there. I don't want to assume that it's

32:10going to be done and it's not. I want to

32:12I wanted to see it. So my vote is no.

32:14Okay.

32:15>> All in favor say I. I

32:17>> oppos nay.

32:19>> Are you voting nay council?

32:22>> Yes.

32:22>> Okay, the eyes have it. Motion carries.

32:26They'll

32:28add the note to the uh phase two plans.

32:36Also, I

32:38uh as Lawson said, someone would have to

32:41come before the city and ask us to open

32:42it. And I can't

32:45imagine unless all the neighbors in both

32:47neighborhoods got together and decided

32:48it was advantageous that anyone

32:51certainly um I certainly can't see the

32:54contractors wanting to open it because

32:56it will cost them money to do that. But

32:58uh it should stay closed.

33:00>> Will stay closed.

33:01>> Yes.

33:03>> All right. We have a North Carolina

33:05Department of Transportation

33:05[clears throat]

33:07uh excess property grant to us. Boston.

33:10Um, mayor, members of the council, the

33:15parcel shown in blue on that plat uh or

33:20the GIS system is a large area, 2 acres

33:24plus. uh the city staff in redoing the

33:32uh Fieldstone pump station right there

33:36at the corner of Fieldstone Drive-I

33:38which you've approved the purchase of

33:40that property from the Fieldstone Farms

33:44Homeowners Association. Uh we needed

33:47about city needed about 200 ft of uh DOT

33:52land. uh do he said fine but you've got

33:55to take the whole uh excess parcel and

33:59so that's why uh it is shown as it's

34:03shown on the GIS um it's a surplus

34:06parcel we give the DOT $1 and the city

34:10takes title to it uh having gone out

34:13there this afternoon there is a fence

34:16it's limited access on 119 as you know

34:19and there is a fence that runs along the

34:21property

34:23lines uh between the property along the

34:27property uh as it faces the uh highway

34:32119

34:36>> and the purchase price is a whopping $1.

34:39>> Yes, sir.

34:43>> Any discussion? What's your pleasure?

34:47I move that the city purchase a parcel

34:49of real property Alamance County PIN1

34:51175305 from the North Carolina

34:53Department of Transportation for the

34:55purchase price of $1 and authorize the

34:56city manager and finance officer to

34:58execute the negotiated sale of residue

35:00on behalf of the city and take all other

35:03appropriate action on behalf of the city

35:04to acquire the parcel.

35:06>> Second.

35:07>> Have a motion and second to purchase

35:09that property from DOT for a dollar. Any

35:12further discussion?

35:14Wish we could get more land, more acres

35:17for a dollar.

35:20>> All All in favor say I. I. Nay. A motion

35:24carries.

35:26Next on the agenda, moving right along,

35:30is the uh the opportunity for us to add

35:33a logo to the uh new bridge there on at

35:37the exit 152.

35:40Richard,

35:41>> thank you. Mayor Pro Tim and council

35:43members staff was looking for an

35:45opportunity to place an instate monument

35:47sign on the west side that would

35:48complement the one that you see here on

35:50the eastern side of our city um to ex

35:53enhance our visibility and our community

35:55identity. We were not able to find a

35:56suitable location and so an opportunity

35:58with NCOD presented itself as an

36:00alternative u to install the city's logo

36:03or seal on the Trlingwood Hallfields

36:05Road I4085 interchange bridge incaps.

36:08You can see example of that on the right

36:10side that's showing um the labeled

36:13bridge endcap example western welcome

36:15sign. NCDOT supports this concept and

36:18they'll allow two circular medallions on

36:20each side of the bridge. We initially uh

36:23was told that they couldn't provide a

36:24cost for installation, but we did reach

36:26out to them and they did give us a rough

36:28estimate of $17,500 for each medallion,

36:32one on each side of the bridge for a

36:33total of about $37,000

36:36to do this work. And that would include

36:38the fabrication, installation, and

36:39traffic control uh to install the logos

36:41on both side of the bridge. And so

36:43tonight, we're asking council if you'd

36:45like to proceed that you select one of

36:46the options, which we labeled A, B, and

36:48C. And we'll submit this to NCDOT, and

36:51they'll come back with a final cost to

36:52do this. Um I will note they did say

36:55with option C, they thought it might be

36:57difficult uh for passengers to drivers

37:00to truly uh decipher what the logo is in

37:03option C as folks pass by doing 65 miles

37:05an hour.

37:07You can delay this if you still want to

37:09do it and don't want to do it right now.

37:10We could delay it, but that might mean

37:11additional cost for the city and that we

37:13would probably end up paying the cost to

37:15um manage traffic if we had to close the

37:16road to put up at a later time. But if

37:18you're interested in doing this tonight,

37:19we do ask you to choose one of the

37:20options A, B, and C. And we'll submit

37:23this to NCDT tomorrow.

37:26>> Mr. White, your comments earlier, I

37:28thought you had said two in each

37:29direction, but then when you did the

37:31price, you sounded like two total. Can

37:33you clarify that? Yes, it would be two

37:35total as you can see be one on as you

37:37see there on that side of the bridge and

37:38then one on the opposite side.

37:40>> Okay.

37:40>> Yes.

37:40>> Because it be in the center.

37:42>> Okay. If you ever if you ever travel 52

37:45uh highway 52 north of Winston Salem,

37:49Walkertown and Lewisville uh both have

37:52these on the bridge abutments in in

37:54three or four places. They're they're

37:57really pretty pretty impressive. they

37:59catch your attention because uh they're

38:01not your normal Burlington Meaven sign.

38:04It's

38:06uh I when we were when they were doing

38:08the redoing the 119 bridge, exit 153, I

38:12suggested we look into it uh while

38:16they're doing it. And once they finish

38:17the bridge, it gets a lot more expensive

38:19because they have to close lanes to put

38:21them up. But uh so what's your uh what's

38:24your

38:26favor on this?

38:28>> I love the idea. I' I'd even be

38:31interested on one on the left and right

38:33of the you know two on each side so that

38:35people in the left lane could see it and

38:37people in the right lane could see it.

38:38But I don't know how the support

38:40structures look. But if it only makes

38:42sense to do it in the middle I would

38:44fully support doing it in both

38:45directions. I think that would be money

38:47very well spent.

38:50>> Any preference ABC? I would choose

38:52option B. I'm concerned about C because

38:54of the size and I'm concerned that out

38:57of town people wouldn't really at first

38:59glance know what an M means.

39:04>> That was my concern for option A as well

39:06was

39:08um they may not understand an M.

39:13>> Any objections to uh option B? Do you

39:16need a motion? Applause. We need a

39:18motion just to

39:19>> Absolutely.

39:22So

39:24>> make a motion for option B. I mean I

39:26have to read it. [laughter]

39:30>> Have a motion for option B. Is there a

39:32second?

39:32>> Second.

39:33>> I have a motion and a second. U

39:36>> and I assume Richard

39:38if once vote is made do you'll pursue

39:41the getting up with DOT and finding out

39:44what cost?

39:44>> Yes, we'll submit the ND10 follow

39:46through.

39:46>> All right. Okay. We have a motion second

39:49for option B. All in favor say I. I

39:51>> I nay.

39:53Motion carries. Look forward to this. I

39:56think this will be great.

39:58>> Um

39:59we have a downtown exterior improvement

40:02grant award. Ashley Omi, you'll go over

40:06this one.

40:14>> It ain't so. [laughter]

40:19>> [clears throat]

40:20>> All right. Measure.

40:43>> Well, I think we're

40:46reason.

40:49While they're looking for that, I would

40:51remind everybody that the city of Meban

40:53has nothing to do with the railroad

40:55crossing closure. Yeah.

40:57>> So, if you come downtown and they're all

40:59closed at the same time,

41:02that's the railroad.

41:03>> How long is that going to be the case?

41:05Do we have any idea?

41:06>> Just three or four days, I think.

41:08>> Yes. We think they'll be working through

41:09the rest of this week, but

41:11>> on third, fourth, and fifth,

41:12>> we've been asking them to leave uh yeah

41:15section open is what we've been asking

41:16for and to our police chief is here.

41:18He's been out there making sure that

41:19that's being done. So,

41:20>> yeah. Really,

41:21>> but if you get any complaints, it's not

41:23our we're not doing it, [laughter]

41:26>> Ashley.

41:28>> We received an application for a

41:29downtown exterior improvements grant

41:31award. It's a bit of an amendment to an

41:33application or grant award that was

41:35approved in June. Um, but it is for a

41:38different type of improvement. So, I

41:40wanted to get it before council.

41:43Um, so you all had $50,000 allocated

41:46when you approved the budget in June.

41:48Um, and this is for a program you

41:49adopted in November 2021. You'll find

41:52two quotes in your packet. Uh, this is

41:55the property owner. They are asking to

41:57do some outdoor seating. Um so we'll

41:59review that impact in the city rideway

42:01and sidewalk and if they make any

42:03changes um we'll have to preapprove it

42:06um [clears throat] at a staff level.

42:08This is for 106 North Fourth Street

42:09which is in the downtown vision plan.

42:12It'd be a 50/50 match and we are still

42:15welcoming applications of course. Um as

42:18I mentioned this will be for outdoor

42:19seating at Marcola Coffee House. Um, as

42:23you may remember in June, you approved

42:24the awning, which has been installed and

42:26they've submitted for reimbursement.

42:28They had some difficulties with the

42:30install to where it reduced the price

42:32for them. So, they came way under budget

42:34from what was approved. So, they were

42:36asking if they could, you know, add some

42:38more improvements. So, we have the small

42:40dollar amount, $144.

42:42Uh they may come back and do some more

42:44comprehensive improvements to perhaps

42:47the um rear of the building, but I told

42:50them to go ahead and get this ahead of

42:52you. I'm excited for it to open, so I'd

42:54like for them to have some outdoor

42:55seating. [laughter]

43:01>> I make a motion to approve this uh grant

43:05from our uh downtown improvement for the

43:07amount of $144.

43:10>> Second. Have a motion to second. Any

43:12more discussion? All in favor say I.

43:16>> I. Nay.

43:18>> Motion carries.

43:24>> Did we beat the mayor's meeting last

43:26month on time? [laughter]

43:30[snorts and clears throat]

43:32[laughter]

43:34>> So, we have a couple upcoming

43:35announcements. Obviously, the farmers

43:37market. We talked about the downtown at

43:40dusk back to school bash uh music on the

43:434th uh twice the 21st and 18th and then

43:48uh adventure race that's is that a new

43:52one

43:54>> done this a couple of years with parks

43:57>> cool downtown meban uh autumnfest that's

44:00a big one downtown meban Halloween

44:04spooktacular and then of course uh

44:07Santa's arrival in Meban coming up. Are

44:09we doing the snow again this year?

44:12>> Yeah, we'll have snow.

44:14Anything

44:16else to come for the uh Oh, National

44:20Night Out, Tuesday, August 4th from 6:00

44:22to 8. Six locations. Ashby Square,

44:25Keystone, Fieldstone Apartments, Grace

44:28Outreach Ministry, 119 South Apartments,

44:32and Supper Club Mobile Home Parks, which

44:35is just off Supper Club Road. Supper

44:37Club Road. and city offices will be

44:40closed September 8 7th and we'll be

44:43having the uh council meeting the

44:45following day on September 8th which is

44:47a huge a little unusual but uh

44:51better put it on your calendar so you

44:53don't it doesn't slip by any any further

44:56anything further to come before the

44:58council. Thank you so much. We're

45:00>> adjourned.

45:13What time you pick it up?

45:17of your ven.