2026-10-05 - Transportation, Planning & Development Committee

03:31A

03:31SORRY FOR THE SORRY.

03:33I'M SORRY.

03:34ALL RIGHT.

03:35GOOD AFTERNOON.

03:36WELCOME TO THIS OCTOBER 5TH

03:38MEETING OF THE CHARLOTTE CITY

03:39COUNCIL OF TRANSPORTATION.

03:40PLANNING AND.

03:41DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.

03:43WE WILL START AS IS OUR WALKED.

03:44WITH INTRODUCTIONS BEGINNING AT

03:46THAT END OF THE TABLE.

03:48BRAD THOMAS KATZ ATTORNEY.

03:52LORETTA YOUSEF KATZ LEGAL.

03:55GOOD EVENING.

03:56>> LENA JAMES.

03:57DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

04:00ALISON CRAIG, DEPUTY CITY.

04:01MANAGER REBECCA HEFNER, DEPUTY

04:03CITY MANAGER.

04:04DRUGS COMMITTEE CHAIR.

04:06VICTORIA WATLINGTON.

04:07COMMITTEE MEMBER.

04:08DANTE ANDERSON, NONA COMMITTEE

04:10MEMBER.

04:11KIMBERLY OWENS REPRESENTING

04:12DISTRICT SIX NON COMMITTEE

04:13MEMBER.

04:14YOLANDA JONES.

04:15PLANNING STAFF JESSICA BIGELOW

04:17CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

04:18AND WHO DO.

04:20>> WE HAVE ONLINE.

04:21?

04:22>> LUANA MATEO.

04:22COMMITTEE MEMBER.

04:24MALCOLM GRAHAM COMMITTEE.

04:25MEMBER RENEE.

04:26JOHNSON DISTRICT.

04:27FOUR COMMITTEE MEMBER.

04:30AND LET'S FIND OUT WHO ELSE IS

04:31IN THE ROOM.

04:32STARTING BACK THERE.

04:34HEY.

04:35>> JAKE URBAN.

04:36IS BRINGING RESULTS FROM.

04:38>> THE DEPARTMENT.

04:38YEAH.

04:39HI EVERYONE.

04:39DEBBIE SMITH CHARLOTTE.

04:40DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

04:42YOU KNOW BRIAN BURGER STRATEGY

04:44.

04:44>> THAT I KNOW.

04:45WAS PLANNING.

04:47I'M A STUDENT.

04:48JUST HERE TO WATCH.

04:51LOOK AND LEARN.

04:53SORRY LOOK AND LEARN.

04:56POLICY FRAMEWORK PLANNING.

04:58A LITTLE PLANNING.

04:59AND OVER THERE SOME PLANNING.

05:03UH, ROXANA BUCKLE I'M ALSO A

05:06STUDENT ALWAYS LEARNING.

05:07WE'RE ALL STUDENTS.

05:08YOU NEVER STOP LEARNING.

05:10SOA WE HAVE TWO TOPICS TODAY UH,

05:13WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MBTA

05:14.

05:15AND.

05:16>> UH, WE HAVE A POLICY

05:17REFERRAL.

05:18ON DEVELOPMENT AND

05:18TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.

05:20BEFORE WE START ON IN PTA JUST

05:22BY WAY OF PREAMBLE.

05:25UH, AS I.

05:26THINK WE'RE ALL.

05:26AWARE, THE.

05:27PHASE ONE.

05:28OF THE.

05:29>> TRANSITION OF CATS TO.

05:31MBTA ENDS ISN'T SCHEDULED TO

05:33END ON DECEMBER 31ST.

05:36UH, TRANSITION.

05:37TALKS ARE UNDERWAY.

05:39UH, WE'LL HEAR A BIT FROM STAFF

05:40ABOUT WORK THAT IS.

05:41BEING DONE TOWARD THAT.

05:43UH, EVENT THAT GOAL.

05:46UM.

05:46YOU ALSO CAN SEE IN A MEMO FROM

05:48HANNA BAMBERGER KIND OF AN

05:51UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

05:52UH, MBTA HAD A RETREAT THE

05:55SCHEDULE AT THE RETREAT.

05:56>> YOU CAN SEE UH.

05:57ALSO IN YOUR MATERIALS.

05:59UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY

06:01STANDARD BOARD RETREAT.

06:03I DON'T THINK A WHOLE.

06:03BUNCH OF THINGS HAPPENED THAT.

06:05ARE OF.

06:06CRITICAL INTEREST TO THE

06:07COUNCIL.

06:08UM, AAND.

06:10WE DID NOT.

06:11HAVE A.

06:12WORKING GROUP MEETING.

06:13BECAUSE, UH, OF CHICAGO.

06:15BECAUSE A NUMBER OF US WERE OUT

06:16OF TOWN.

06:18UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU.

06:19AND THE MEMO REFERS TO THE FACT

06:20THAT THERE ARE SOME

06:22CONVERSATIONS GOING ON ABOUT

06:23THE CO-MINGLED PROPERTIES.

06:24AND THOSE ISSUES.

06:26>> THAT I THINK YOU'RE AWARE

06:27OF.

06:27THE MANAGER I THINK.

06:28ALSO SPOKE ABOUT THEM AND UH,

06:32BASICALLY THE WHAT'S IN THE

06:33WORKS IS SOME AGREEMENTS ARE

06:34BEING DEVELOPED WHICH ARE A

06:36SERVICE AND USE.

06:37AGREEMENTS MEANING.

06:38>> THAT THEY ARE CONTRACTS.

06:39BETWEEN THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE

06:40AND EMPTY THAT WILL KIND OF

06:43COVER SERVICES THAT THE

06:45CHARLOTTE NEEDS TO.

06:46>> RENDER AND ASSETS THEY NEED

06:47TO MAKE AVAILABLE.

06:48DURING PHASE TWO OF THE

06:51TRANSITION WHICH IF YOU RECALL

06:53STARTS ON JANUARY 1ST AND GOES

06:54THROUGH UNTIL PHASE THREE WHICH

06:56.

06:56IS THE.

06:57>> ULTIMATE ASSUMPTION OF ALL

06:58RESPONSIBILITY.

06:59FOR UH THE TRANSIT ASSETS BY

07:02MPT TO.

07:03SO UH THE COUNCIL IF YOU LOOK

07:05AT YOUR MATERIALS AS WELL WILL

07:08GET UPDATES THE COMMITTEE WILL

07:10ANDA THE COUNCIL WILL ON

07:12PROGRESS OF THAT WORK.

07:13AND THE GOAL THEN IS TO HAVE

07:15THESE MATERIALS IN FRONT OF

07:18COUNCIL FOR EVALUATION AND

07:20ASSESSMENT THAT IS TO SAY THOSE

07:21AGREEMENTS AND THE INTENTION

07:23WOULD THEN BE TO HAVE US VOTE

07:25ON.

07:25THEM IN DECEMBER.

07:27SO THAT'S THE KIND OF WAY WE'RE

07:29MOVING FORWARD.

07:30I THINK THAT'S UNLESS I'VE LEFT

07:32SOMETHING OUT.

07:33UH THAT'S PROBABLY AS MUCH AS I

07:34NEED TO SAY BY WAY OF

07:36INTRODUCTION.

07:36AND SO UH WITH THAT I WILL WE

07:39WILL THEN GET TO OUR FIRST

07:41AGENDA ITEM WHICH IS EMPTY

07:43UPDATES CITY OF CHARLOTTE CODE

07:45OF ORDINANCE REVISIONS.

07:46>> AND FOR THAT I.

07:47>> WOULD LIKE TO HAND OFF TO

07:49MISS JAMES.

07:51THANK YOU, CHAIR DRIGGS, GOOD

07:53EVENING TO UM.

07:54FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

07:55COUNCIL MEMBERS.

07:56THANK YOU.

07:58UH.

07:59>> WHEN YOU SAY THAT.

08:00TITLE THE WAY IT IS, IT JUST

08:01SOUNDS SO RIVETING.

08:02SO WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO KEEP

08:04EVERYBODY AWAKE.

08:06UM, AND BEFORE I BEGIN, LET ME

08:08INTRODUCE MY TEAM MEMBERS HERE.A

08:10UM, I'LL COME.

08:11FOR A LITTLE BIT WITH THE

08:12CITY'S PERSPECTIVE AND AND HAVE

08:14OUR.

08:14COLLEAGUES HERE SHARE.

08:16>> A LITTLE BIT OF OF THE CAT'S

08:18PERSPECTIVE.

08:18LAURITA YUSUF.

08:19ONE OF OUR SENIOR ASSISTANT

08:21CITY.

08:21ATTORNEYS WAS GOING TO DO THE

08:22PRESENTATION WITH ME AND THEN.

08:24BRAD THOMAS, OUR.

08:25LEAD UM, CATS ATTORNEY.

08:26THAT YOU ALL KNOW TO THE EXTENT

08:29WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THERE.

08:30SO THE PURPOSE.

08:32>> OF I THINK WE CAN THANK YOU

08:33.

08:34GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

08:34UM THE PURPOSE.

08:36>> OF THIS DISCUSSION REALLY IS

08:37TO INTRODUCE TO COUNCIL UH TO

08:39THE COMMITTEE AND CERTAINLY TO

08:40COUNCIL HOPEFULLY ON NOVEMBER

08:42THE 9TH.

08:43>> THE.

08:43NEED FOR SOME REVISIONS TO THE

08:44CITY CODE.

08:45THIS IS BEING PROMPTED

08:47OBVIOUSLY BY THE TRANSITION

08:49FROM THE PAYBACK TO THAT WENT

08:50INTO EFFECT UM, LAST YEAR.

08:52AND UH, CHANGES TO TO THE MBTA

08:56THAT THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR

08:57AND CONTINUE AS WE APPROACH

08:59PHASE TWO.

09:00SO UH, IN ORDER FOR THE MBTA,

09:04THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY TO BE

09:05OPERATIONAL AND DO WHAT IT

09:07NEEDS TO DO ON JANUARY THE 1ST

09:09AT A MINIMUMA THERE ARE SOME

09:11REVISIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE

09:12TO OUR CITY CODE TO NECESSITATE

09:14THAT.

09:14SO THAT'S THE FOCUS OF IT.

09:16WE KIND OF HAVE IT IN TWO

09:17CATEGORIES FOR YOU UH,

09:19ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENTS UH,

09:21THINGS THAT YOU KNOW PREVIOUSLY

09:22FOR EXAMPLE THE SEAT DIRECTOR

09:25UH OR SOMEBODY AT THE CITY

09:26MIGHT HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR

09:27SOMETHING AND SO WE MIGHT NEED

09:28TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO

09:30AUTHORIZE THE APPROPRIATE STAFF

09:31AT THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY TO DO

09:33THAT AND THEN ALSO PROBABLY TO

09:35SET SOME NEW PROCESSES AS IT

09:38RELATES TO UM, UH, ENFORCEMENT

09:43APPLICABILITY TRYING TO

09:43IDENTIFY WHEN THERE MIGHT BE

09:45INSTANCES WHEN THE TRANSIT

09:47AUTHORITY SHOULD PROPERLY BE

09:47EXCLUDED FROM SOMETHING, UH,

09:49THE WAY THE CITY IS UNDER OUR

09:51EXISTING ORDINANCES.

09:52SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE THERE.

09:53IT'S BEEN WE'VE HAD A CROSS

09:55SECTIONAL TEAM OF THE CITY

09:56ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT'S BEEN

09:57WORKING WITH CITY STAFF ON

09:59THIS.

09:59UH, WE'VE HAD ATTORNEYS FROM

10:01AVIATION.

10:02,FROM THE.

10:03TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, FROM

10:04POLICE.

10:05SO WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU UH

10:06AND OF COURSE OUR CITY ATTORNEY

10:07INVOLVED IN ALL THESE

10:09DISCUSSIONS.

10:10SO JUSTA A REPRESENTATION OF A

10:11LARGER GROUP AND A LARGER GROUP

10:12EFFORT, PARTICULARLY AS IT

10:14RELATES TO THESE ORDINANCE

10:15REVISIONS.

10:17UM, SO I THINK.

10:19I WILL JUST.

10:19GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES

10:21OF THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE

10:22AND WE WON'T GET INTO ALL OF IT

10:24UM, TODAY BUT ON NOVEMBER THE

10:279TH WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO

10:28BRING TO YOU ARE REALLY BLACK

10:30LINE REVISIONS DUE TO THE

10:33ORDINANCES.

10:33AND SO IT MIGHT BE.

10:35CHANGING LANGUAGE IN THE PUBLIC

10:37TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM ARTICLE

10:39OF THE ORDINANCE UM, ADDING THE

10:42MBTA TO SOME OF THE SECTIONS

10:43THAT RELATE TO FARE EXCLUDING

10:46THE MBTA FROM CERTAIN SECTIONS

10:48INCLUDING THEIR SHARED USE UM

10:51MOBILITY SYSTEM SECTION WHERE

10:52THE CITY IS ALSO EXCLUDED AND

10:54SO COMPARABLY WOULD MAKE SENSE

10:56TO EXCLUDE UM THE MBTA AND SO

10:59THAT'S THAT'S THE INTENT OF IT.

11:02UM REALLY NECESSARY BUT

11:04PROBABLY TEDIOUS BORING LEGAL

11:06WORK.

11:06SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION

11:07.

11:07I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO UH

11:09TO LORETTA TO WALK USA THROUGH

11:10THE REMAINING SLIDES AND I'LL

11:12TAKE THE LAST ONE.

11:13THANK YOU.

11:14>> THANK YOU.

11:15DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

11:16JAMES.

11:18,BY WAY OF REMINDER, THE.

11:19PAYBACK WAS ENACTED.

11:21ON JULY 1ST, 2025.

11:23UM.

11:24>> AUTHORIZING THE CREATION.

11:25OF THE MBTA.

11:26>> AND THEN REQUIRING.

11:27TRANSITION OF CATS OPERATIONS.

11:29TO THE MTA.

11:32IN ORDER TO FACILITATE.

11:33>> THIS TRANSITION AND.

11:35UM.

11:36TO PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK.

11:38>> FOR THE TRANSITION.

11:38CITY COUNCIL SIGNED.

11:40>> UH.

11:40THE PRIMARY INTO.

11:40LOCAL AGREEMENT.

11:42AND AS.

11:43UM CHAIRMAN DRAKE STATED,

11:45WE'RE.

11:45>> WELL.

11:46UNDERWAY WITH.

11:46>> THE TRANSITION.

11:47AND THE MBTA.

11:50>> IS.

11:50SET UM.

11:51TO TO.

11:52TO COMMENCE OPERATIONS AND

11:54CONTROL OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM

11:56ON.

11:56JANUARY 1ST.

11:57>> SO THAT.

11:58LEADS US TO THE NEED.

12:00FOR FOR.

12:01ORDINANCE REVISIONS.

12:03AFTER THE.

12:04>> TRANSITION OF.

12:06>> CATS.

12:06TO THE MBTA.

12:07UM, WELL, ALL CITY.

12:08ORDINANCES WILL.

12:09REMAIN AND CONTINUE INA EFFECT.

12:12AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY CITY.

12:15ORDINANCES ARE.

12:16UM THEY.

12:16>> REFLECT THAT.

12:17>> THE THE TRANSPORTATION.

12:18SYSTEM OF THE PUBLIC.

12:19TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

12:20IS OWNED.

12:20>> AND OPERATED BY THE CITY.

12:22AND SO.

12:23>> IN ORDER.

12:23>> TO.

12:23FULLY EFFECTUATE.

12:25UH THE.

12:25>> OPERATION MTA'S OPERATION.

12:27OF THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

12:28SYSTEM, CITY COUNCIL WILL NEED

12:30TO AMEND SOME OF.

12:32>> THESE ORDINANCES.

12:34.

12:35>> OUT OF THE 23.

12:36CHAPTERS OF THE.

12:37>> CODE OF.

12:38ORDINANCES, WE'VE IDENTIFIED

12:39FOUR CHAPTERS THAT WILL NEED

12:41REVISIONS.

12:42UM, AND THAT'S.

12:43EXCLUDING THE UDO.

12:46WE'VE WE'VE.

12:48CATEGORIZED THESE AMENDMENTS.

12:49INTO TWO MAIN CATEGORIES THE

12:52FIRST BEING ADMINISTRATIVE.

12:53ADJUSTMENTS.

12:54AND THESE UM, AMENDMENTS.

12:56>> ARE SIMPLY.

12:57UPDATING THE TERMS TO REFLECT.

12:58>> THE TRANSITION.

12:59FROM CATS.

13:00>> TO THE MTA.

13:01AND SO.

13:02THROUGHOUT UH, THE CHAPTERS.

13:04>> THAT.

13:04REQUIRE THESE.

13:06ADMINISTRATIVE TYPES OF

13:07AMENDMENTS.

13:07WE WILL.

13:08>> SIMPLY BE.

13:08SUBSTITUTING CATSA OR TRANSIT

13:11AUTHORITY FOR CATS OR ADDING IN

13:13TRANSIT AUTHORITY IN ADDITION.

13:14TO CITY WHERE IT'S NECESSARY.

13:17NOW WHILE IT'S A.

13:18SIMPLE SUBSTITUTION.

13:20IT IS OPERATIONALLY IMPORTANT.

13:22SO IF WE TAKE THE.

13:23EXAMPLE ON.

13:24THE ON THE.

13:26SLIDES I'M SORRY.

13:27CAN WE.

13:27>> GO BACK TO.

13:28>> ONE.

13:28SLIDE OKAY.

13:29IF WE.

13:30>> TAKE THIS EXAMPLE ON THE

13:31SLIDE WE'RE ADDING THE

13:33HIGHLIGHTED.

13:33LANGUAGE AND EMPLOYEE OF

13:34TRANSIT OF THE.

13:36TRANSIT AUTHORITY OR AN.

13:37AUTHORIZED AGENT OF THE TRANSIT

13:38AUTHORITY BECAUSE AS.

13:40>> IT STANDS THIS UM PROVISION

13:42MAKES IT UNLAWFUL.

13:43FOR A.

13:44>> PERSON TO.

13:45FOR A.

13:46>> PERSON TO UH, FAIL TO.

13:47PROVIDE PROOF.

13:48>> OF.

13:48FARE PAYMENT.

13:48WHEN REQUESTED.

13:50>> BY A CITY EMPLOYEE.

13:51OR AN.

13:52AUTHORIZATION OF THE CITY.

13:53WELL ON JANUARY.

13:54>> 1ST AND AFTER.

13:55>> WE WILL WANT TO ENSURE THAT

13:57IT IS ALSO UNLAWFUL FOR.

13:58>> A.

13:58PERSON TO FAIL.

13:59TO PROVIDE.

14:00>> PROOF OF FARE PAYMENT.

14:01IF AN EMPTY EMPLOYEE OR AN.

14:03AUTHORIZED AGENT OF THE MBTA.

14:05WERE TO REQUEST PROOF OF.

14:07FARE PAYMENT.

14:08NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

14:10ATHE SECOND.

14:12CATEGORY OF.

14:12CHANGES ARE UM.

14:15UPDATING PROCESSES OR.

14:17UPDATING THE CODE.

14:17>> TO REFLECT CURRENT PROCESSES

14:19.

14:20AND SO.

14:20>> FOR THE.

14:21>> EXAMPLE THAT'S ON THE.

14:22>> SCREEN.

14:24HERE WE.

14:25HAVE A PROVISION THAT THAT

14:28AUTHORIZES THE.

14:29DIRECTOR OF CDOT.

14:31TO ESTABLISH BUS STOPS.

14:32WELL THIS.

14:33IS A 1988.

14:34THIS WAS ADOPTED IN.

14:361985 AT A.

14:36TIME WHEN.

14:37THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

14:38SYSTEM UM.

14:40WAS NAMED UH.

14:42CHARLOTTE TRANSIT AND AT A TIME

14:43.

14:43WHEN UM.

14:44THE PUBLIC.

14:46TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WAS.

14:47EXCLUSIVELY UH.

14:48MUNICIPAL A.

14:49>> MUNICIPAL BUS NETWORK AND AT

14:51THAT.

14:52TIME CDOT.

14:54>> UM OVERSAW.

14:55>> THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

14:55SYSTEM.

14:56AND SO IT WAS IT MADE SENSE FOR

14:58THE.

14:58DIRECTOR OF CDOT.

15:00TO BE THE.

15:01THE THE PERSON THAT'S

15:03ESTABLISHING BUS STOPS.

15:04BECAUSE THE DIRECTOR WAS ALSO.

15:06OVERSEEING THE PUBLIC

15:07TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

15:08>> SO THIS ACTUALLY PREDATES

15:09KATZ.

15:10AAND SO LOOKING FORWARD TO.

15:12JANUARY 1ST.

15:12>> AND BEYOND.

15:13WHEN THE.

15:14>> ESTABLISHING BUS.

15:15STOPS PURSUANT TO THE.

15:16AUTHORITY IN THE PAYBACK WE.

15:17WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

15:19THE THAT THE CODE REFLECTS THE

15:21.

15:21CURRENT PROCESS.

15:26NOW MOST OF MOST OF THE.

15:28CHANGES ARE.

15:30UM IN.

15:30>> THE FIRST CATEGORY WHICH

15:31ARE.

15:32SIMPLY THEY'RE SIMPLY

15:33SUBSTITUTIONARY SUBSTANTIVELY.

15:35THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT DIFFERENT

15:36BUT WE'RE.

15:36JUST SWAP SUBSTITUTING.

15:39UM KATZ FOR OR.

15:40TRANSIT AUTHORITY FOR KATZ.

15:43IN ADDITION TO THESE.

15:44CHANGES, CITY.

15:44>> PLANNING AND KATZ PLANNING

15:46ARE ALSO REVIEWING.

15:48>> THE UDO.

15:49TO DETERMINE WHETHER UM.

15:51AND WHAT.

15:51TYPES OF CHANGES.

15:52>> ARE REQUIRED THERE.

15:53AND I'LL TURN.

15:54>> IT BACK.

15:55TO DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY JAMES.

15:57.

15:58>> THANK YOU.

15:59UM, SO FAST PRESENTATION JUST.

16:03INFORMATIONAL FOR THE COMMITTEE

16:04TODAY.

16:04UH, A PREVIEW OF WHAT WE WILL

16:07BRING BACK WITH YOU.

16:09BRING BACK IN FRONT OFA THE FULL

16:10COUNCIL AT THE NOVEMBER 9TH

16:12MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE ALL THE

16:15PROPOSED, UH, ORDINANCES WITH

16:16THE REVISIONS IN SOME IT'S FOUR

16:19CHAPTERS CHAPTER 14, 15, 19 AND

16:2322 UM, ONE HAVING TO DO WITH

16:24THE MOTOR VEHICLES CHAPTER I

16:26BELIEVE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS

16:31UM MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES

16:32THAT'S CHAPTER 15 AND THERE'S A

16:33LOT OF MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES

16:35BUT WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING A

16:36COUPLE OF EDITS HERE AND THERE

16:37AND THEN THE PASSENGER VEHICLE

16:38FOR HIRE CHAPTER SO FOUR

16:41CHAPTERS PROBABLY A TOTAL OF 15

16:45OR 16 SUBSTITUTIONS ESSENTIALLY

16:47.

16:47UH, AGAIN AS I SAID AT THE

16:49FRONT END AND AS AS UH LORETTA

16:52UH DESCRIBED UH HAS HAVING TO

16:54DO WITH THE APPLICABILITY

16:55SOMETIMES DEFINITIONS THAT

16:57NECESSARILY NEED TO BE REVISED

17:00UH ENFORCEMENT EXCLUSIONS.

17:01AND THEN UM DEPENDING ON THE

17:04FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVE ON

17:06NOVEMBER THE 9TH, THE PLAN

17:07WOULD BE TO BRING BACK UM THEA

17:10ENTIRE ORDINANCE FOR COUNCIL

17:13ADOPTION ON NOVEMBER THE 23RD

17:15AT THE BUSINESS MEETING AND FOR

17:17THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THOSE

17:18REVISIONS TO BE ON JANUARY THE

17:201ST OF 2027 AND HAPPY TO ANSWER

17:23ANY QUESTIONS.

17:24THANK YOU.

17:25>> COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS.

17:29IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE NINE.

17:31YOU TOLD US EVERYTHING WE NEED

17:32TO DO.

17:33MR. CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION

17:34?

17:36UH.

17:37>> QUESTION FOR YOU.

17:39UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE

17:40PRESENTATION.

17:41UM.

17:45ON SLIDE SIX WHERE YOU HAVE THE

17:48EXAMPLE OF UM THE CROSS OUT OF

17:51THE DIRECTORS AUTHORITY.

17:53I'M JUST WONDERING READING THE

17:56BALANCE OF THAT SENTENCE IS IS

17:58THIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST

18:00MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS

18:03LANGUAGE IS APPROPRIATE FOR

18:062026 GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU

18:07SAID SOME OF IT WAS WRITTEN

18:09BACK INA 85.

18:13I'LL I'LL START THE ANSWER.

18:15SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF I'M

18:17UNDERSTANDING YOU UH.

18:18COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON.

18:19DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION HAS

18:20NOT BEEN STRUCK.

18:21BUT ON THE SECOND ONE UNDER

18:231436 16 BUS.

18:25STOPS IS BEING STRUCK.

18:26SO IT WOULD SAY THE DIRECTOR'S

18:28AUTHORITY REMAINS TO ESTABLISH

18:31TAXI.

18:31CAB STANDS.

18:32>> AND STANDS FOR OTHER

18:33PASSENGERS, NOT BUS STOPS WITH

18:35THE PRESUMPTION THAT THAT GOES

18:36TO THE EMPTY AND.

18:38I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND UH, MY

18:39QUESTION IS THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE

18:42OF SOME OF THESE UH, THAT THAT

18:44ARE IN FRONT OF US AND THAT YOU

18:45GUYS HAVE UM, GONE THROUGH IS

18:49THIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT

18:51THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT

18:53IT REFLECTS THE WAY WE OPERATE

18:56AND THE EXPECTATIONS IN 2026

18:59RELATIVE TO YOU?

19:01YOU REFERENCED 1985 WHEN THE

19:03LANGUAGE WAS FIRST CODIFIED.

19:05YEAH.

19:06>> I MEAN WE WE CERTAINLY HAD

19:07THAT DISCUSSION.

19:08I THINK PART OF IT IS STRIKING

19:09THATA BALANCE BETWEEN TRYING TO

19:11IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE MOST

19:12IMMEDIATE PRIORITIES FOR

19:14PURPOSES OF ENACTMENT BY

19:16JANUARY THE 1ST AND THEN UM,

19:18CERTAINLY WITH MR. THOMAS WE'VE

19:19HAD CONVERSATIONS YOU KNOW, IF

19:21THE MTA IN CONSULTATION WITH

19:22THE CITY NEEDED TO DO

19:24ADDITIONAL REVISIONS, THE CITY

19:25ALWAYS HAS AN OPPORTUNITY AND

19:26WE NEED TO DO CLEAN UPS OF OUR

19:28ORDINANCE BECAUSE A LOT OF IT

19:29DOES DATE BACK TO 1985.

19:31SO CERTAINLY WE COULD DO THAT.

19:32WE WERE UM FOR PURPOSES OF WHAT

19:34WE NEEDED IN THE IMMEDIATE A

19:36COUPLE OF MONTHS TRYING TO

19:37FOCUS ON THESE BUT POINT WE'LL

19:38MAKE.

19:40IT.

19:40THANK YOU CHAIR.

19:42CHERRY DRINKS YES ME SO.

19:43IF I COULD JUST AMPLIFY THAT

19:44JUST BRIEFLY UM, YOU KNOW, ONE

19:46OF THE THINGS THAT JUMPS OUT TO

19:47ME OF COURSE IS HIS DESIGNEES.

19:49YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE APPETITE

19:51TO EVER JUST.

19:52YOU KNOW, PUT IN.

19:53ITS AND ACT LIKE IT'S 2026 AND

19:55SOME OF OUR LANGUAGE.

20:00UM WE.

20:00CERTAINLY HAVE THE APPETITE AND

20:01YOU KNOW WITH SOME DIRECTION

20:03WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT TAKE

20:04THAT ON AT SOME POINT.

20:07I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ISSUE.

20:09UH THE OTHER THINGSA.

20:10>> WE TALKED ABOUT ARE TIME

20:11SENSITIVE LIKE YOU KNOW, THEY

20:13NEED TO BE DONE.

20:13AND THERE'S A NEED FOR WHAT YOU

20:16DESCRIBED ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

20:18UM, SO I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE

20:22AGAIN.

20:22THAT IN THE MATERIALS YOU.

20:24GOT UH, ON THIS SUBJECT.

20:26>> ON IN OUR UH AGENDA YOU'LL.

20:29SEE A.

20:29>> CALENDAR HERE OCTOBER 5TH.

20:31NOVEMBER 2ND YOU'LL SEE DATES.

20:32AND THOSE ARE DATES ON WHICH

20:34THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNCIL.

20:36WILL BE BRIEFED.

20:38ON SOME OF THE ACTIVITY THAT I

20:39JUST DESCRIBED THE.

20:40CREATION OF.

20:41USE AGREEMENTS AND SERVICE

20:43AGREEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN GET

20:45TO A POINT.

20:46IN DECEMBER WHERE WE'RE READY

20:47TO ACT ON THEM.

20:49I ASK THAT EVERYBODY KIND OF

20:50PAY ATTENTION TO THIS SO THAT

20:51WE DON'T ARRIVE IN.

20:52DECEMBER WITH PEOPLE THINKING

20:54WELL, I DIDN'T.

20:54REALIZE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

20:56THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK.

20:58AND UH.

20:58>> WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN

21:00AND THE STAFF WILL TO MAKE.

21:01SURE THAT INFORMATION.

21:03REACHES COUNCIL MEMBERS IN.

21:04GOOD TIME.

21:05UM, BUT THERE WILL BE DURING

21:06NOVEMBER AS YOU SEE IN HERE A.

21:09COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES.

21:10A>> IN WHICH WE CAN GET BRIEFED.

21:11THE ENTIRE COUNCIL CAN GET

21:12BRIEFED ON WHAT THESE

21:13AGREEMENTS LOOK LIKE.

21:15UH, AGAIN.

21:16WITH THE GOAL OF.

21:17>> BEING READY IN DECEMBER TO

21:18ADOPT THEM IN TIME FOR THE

21:20JANUARY COMMENCEMENT OF PHASE

21:22TWO.

21:23SO IF THERE'S.

21:24NOTHING ELSE, UH, LET'S GO ON

21:26TO OUR SECOND AGENDA ITEM.

21:28WHICH IS THE REFERRAL ON.

21:31DEVELOPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION

21:33INFRASTRUCTURE.

21:34UM.

21:35>> AND I GUESS DO WE HAVE A

21:36THIRD ITEM TO UPCOMING.

21:37WHICH IS THE UPCOMING TOPICS?

21:39YEAH.

21:40SO FOR THIS UH, AM I REFERRING

21:43TO MISS SMITH?

21:45UM HELLO.

21:47WELCOME.

21:47>> THANK YOU.

21:50I'M ACTUALLY.

21:51CHAIR GOING TO TURN IT DIRECTLY

21:52OVER TO BRANDON BRAZELL.

21:54UH, TO JUMP RIGHT IN.

21:56ALL RIGHT.

21:57>> BRANDON I.

21:58>> SITTING HERE.

21:58YEAH.

21:59>> OKAY.

21:59>> GOOD.

22:03>> THANK YOU.

22:04UM, BRANDON BRAZIL.

22:05CHARLOTTE DEPARTMENT OF.

22:07TRANSPORTATION HERE BEFORE YOU

22:08AGAIN.

22:09TO CONTINUE THEA CONVERSATION

22:11AND HOPEFULLY BUTTON THIS TOPIC

22:13UP UH.

22:14HERE SHORTLY UH.

22:15AROUND DEVELOPMENT AND

22:16TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.

22:19SO HERE'S A REMINDER OF, UH.

22:21WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR SO URGENTLY

22:23.

22:23UH.

22:24>> WE WANT TO, UH.

22:26AS STAFF PROPOSE.

22:27ENHANCE REPORTING OF OUR

22:28TRANSPORTATION REZONING

22:30REQUIREMENTS.

22:31UH, WE ROLLED THAT OUT, UH, AND

22:33DRAFT FORM LAST.

22:34MONTH AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM

22:36THE COMMITTEE.

22:37WE MADE SOME.

22:38TWEAKS TO THAT.

22:39AND, UH.

22:40ARE GOING TO, UM, PROVIDE THAT

22:42UPDATED, UH, ENHANCED REPORTING

22:44TO YOU ALL TODAY.

22:45NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

22:47SO THIS IS HOW WE GOT HERE.

22:49THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT

22:50WE'VE COME BEFORE THIS.

22:51BODY.

22:52>> UM LAST MEETING.

22:53WE DID.

22:55UPDATE THE PRESENTATION.

22:57TO INCLUDE.

22:57UH.

22:58>> DISCUSSION AROUND.

22:59>> CUMULATIVE IMPACTS, WHAT THE

23:00LAW ALLOWS.

23:01AND HOW OUR ORDINANCE.

23:03UH, ADDRESSES.

23:04THAT AND THEN.

23:05UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE.

23:07HAVE UPDATED OUR ENHANCED

23:08REPORTING UH, FOR TODAY.

23:12ANEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

23:13SO THIS IS WHAT WE REPORT.

23:15TODAY ON THE RIGHT.

23:16>> YOU CAN.

23:16SEE IT'S A MULTI-PAGE.

23:18DOCUMENT UH.

23:19THE THE CDOT.

23:20STAFF UH PROVIDES A FULL

23:22ANALYSIS ON.

23:23UH THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT

23:25ITEMS.

23:25>> THAT.

23:26OUR STAFF REVIEWS WHENEVER

23:27THEY'RE REVIEWING A.

23:28REZONING PETITION.

23:29UH.

23:29>> EXISTING CONDITIONS.

23:30WE HAVE A.

23:31>> REGULATORY REVIEW FOR OUR

23:32ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.

23:33UH, WE DO A SCREENING.

23:34FOR PLANNED PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

23:36>> SO ANY CAPITAL INVESTMENT

23:37PROJECTS.

23:38>> THAT MIGHT OVERLAP A

23:39DEVELOPER PROJECT.

23:40HOW CAN WE.

23:41>> MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE

23:42ACCOMMODATING THAT FUTURE

23:43INVESTMENT OR MAYBE PARTNERING

23:44WITH A DEVELOPER AND THEN WE

23:46HAVE A.

23:46UH A SAFETY.

23:47VISION ZERO REVIEW?

23:49UM, SOMETHING THAT.

23:50COUNCIL SEES YOU.

23:52TYPICALLY DON'T SEE THIS FULL.

23:54ANALYSIS THAT.

23:54>> OUR.

23:55STAFF DOES UH PLANNING WILL

23:56PULL OUT SOME SELECT ITEMS FROM

23:59.

23:59>> THAT.

23:59LIKE UH ANTICIPATED TRIP

24:01GENERATION AS WELL AS OUR UM

24:03TRANSPORTATION SUMMARY.

24:05UH AND SO.

24:06WE'VE WE'VE REALLY RECOGNIZED

24:08THAT WE COULD DO A BETTER.

24:09JOB OF PROVIDINGA MORE

24:10INFORMATION SO THAT YOU ALL CAN

24:11MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.

24:13UH, SO THAT'S.

24:14THE PURPOSE OF US HAVING THIS.

24:16ENHANCED REPORTING.

24:17NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

24:20SO THIS IS ILLUSTRATIVE OF WHAT

24:21THAT LOOKS LIKE.

24:22UH ON THE LEFT.

24:23>> HAND SIDE THAT'S THE.

24:24ENHANCED REPORT.

24:26UH WE REALLY THOUGHT.

24:27>> THAT PROVIDING IT IN A TABLE

24:28FORMAT IS A LOT.

24:29EASIER TO READ.

24:31UM IT'S A LOT MORE CLEAR AND

24:33REALLY WE CAN GET ALL.

24:34>> OF.

24:35OUR.

24:35ANALYSIS IN.

24:36>> A PAGE.

24:37>> AND A HALF OF WHAT WE USED

24:38TO DO IN ABOUT SIX PAGES.

24:39UH, ON THE.

24:40>> RIGHT HAND SIDE IS WHAT.

24:41UH.

24:42>> PLANNING NOW PROVIDES IN

24:43YOUR COUNCIL PACKETS.

24:45SO THIS HAS AREA DEVELOPMENTS.

24:47>> THAT ARE AROUND A.

24:49PROJECT APPROVED REZONINGS UH,

24:51AND WITH THOSE.

24:52REZONINGS ADDITIONAL

24:53INFORMATION SUCH AS HOW MANY

24:55UNITS.

24:55>> UH, WERE APPROVED WITH THE.

24:57UH WHAT THE STATUS OF IT IS

24:59WHETHER IT'S BEEN APPROVED BUT

25:00NOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION, IF IT'S

25:01UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

25:02OR IF CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN

25:04COMPLETED.

25:05NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

25:08THIS IS WHAT.

25:09UH.

25:10>> WEA HAD PROPOSED.

25:11LAST MEETING.

25:12UH, SO THIS IS, UH.

25:13NOTHING NEW FOR Y'ALL.

25:15UM.

25:16>> WE DID HEAR GENERAL SUPPORT

25:17.

25:17FROM THIS BODY ON ON THIS

25:19ENHANCED REPORTING.

25:21UH, AND THIS IS KIND OF A LOT

25:22OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'D

25:23LIKE TO SEE.

25:24SO WE REALLY.

25:24APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK THAT

25:26WE RECEIVED FROM THIS GROUP.

25:28UM, WE'VE.

25:29BEEN DEVELOPING THIS ENHANCED

25:31ANALYSIS BASED ON FEEDBACK.

25:32FROM COUNCIL.

25:33MEMBERS AT ZONING MEETINGS.

25:35UH, WHAT.

25:35WE HEAR IN OTHER MEETINGS AS

25:37WELL AS UH, FROM THIS COMMITTEE

25:39AND.

25:39UH WE'LL CONTINUE TO REFINE.

25:42OUR ENHANCED REPORTING EVEN

25:44AFTER THIS REFERRAL HAS BEEN

25:45CLOSED.

25:45UM, BUT WE'VE BEEN.

25:47GETTING SOME REALLY GREAT

25:48FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL.

25:49UM.

25:50>> AND INCORPORATING IT ON

25:51THINGS.

25:51THAT WE'VE BEEN UH.

25:53THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE FOR

25:55Y'ALL TO SEE AND.

25:57AT LEAST THOSE.

25:58>> IN THE ROOM.

25:59UM, HAVE A COPY OF UH WHAT THAT

26:03FINAL ENHANCED ANALYSIS LOOKS.

26:05LIKE IF I.

26:06COULD IF.

26:06>> YOU.

26:07CAN GO.

26:07TO THAT.

26:07>> IT'S ALL AND.

26:08ONE ONLINE AS WELL.

26:09THANK YOU SO MUCH.

26:10A.

26:11>> STAFF ANALYSIS.

26:12TRANSPORTATION IS THE DOCUMENT

26:14PERFECT.

26:14THANK YOU.

26:15>> AND AFTER, UH, LAST.

26:17MEETING.

26:17>> UH, WE'VE TWEAKED.

26:18UH, THAT ANALYSIS TO INCLUDE.

26:20ALL THE INFORMATION THAT.

26:21>> YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.

26:23UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS JUST TO.

26:25BRING OUT AND.

26:26>> HIGHLIGHT UM.

26:27IF ON.

26:28>> STREET PARKING IS.

26:28IS INCLUDED WITH.

26:29NEARBY STREETS THAT ARE.

26:31EXISTING UM.

26:32WHAT MITIGATION IS NEEDED.

26:34BOTH FROM.

26:35A BASE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT

26:37AS.

26:37WELL AS BASED ON THE.

26:38INCREMENTAL IMPACT OF THE

26:40DEVELOPMENT.

26:41>> SO THAT'S BASED ON HOW MANY

26:42TRIPS THE SITE IS GOING TO

26:43GENERATE AND WHAT ADDITIONAL.

26:44REQUIREMENTS WE'RE GOING TO

26:45HAVE.

26:46WHETHER IT'S ADDRESSING THE

26:47TRAFFIC.

26:47WHETHER IT'S DOING ADDITIONAL

26:49MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS.

26:51OR OTHER MEANS.

26:52>> TO TAKE VEHICLES OFF.

26:53THE ROADWAYS.

26:54UM.

26:55>> WE HEARD THAT TRANSIT IN THE

26:57AREA IS OF INTEREST.

26:59UH, SO.

27:00WE ARE PARTNERING WITH OUR

27:01FRIENDS AND.

27:02CAT SOON TO BE TO UM TO.

27:05RACE FORWARD THIS.

27:07INFORMATION SUCH AS WHAT

27:08NEARBY.

27:08BUS STOPS ARE IN THE AREA.

27:09IS THEA PROJECT.

27:10WITHIN A.

27:11>> MICRO TRANSIT.

27:11ZONE OR IS IT IN A UH BETTER.

27:13>> BUS CORRIDOR.

27:14?

27:15>> AND THEN ALSO OUR STAFF DOES

27:16RECEIVE FEEDBACK.

27:18THROUGHOUT OUR REZONING UH.

27:20PROCESS FOR EACH.

27:21PROJECT UH, FROM CONSTITUENTS

27:23UH.

27:24NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND.

27:26WE DO CAPTURE THAT INTERNALLY.

27:29UM BUT WE COULD ALSO PROVIDE

27:31THAT AND I KNOW THAT WAS A.

27:32>> COMMENT THAT.

27:33>> WE RECEIVED LAST MONTH SO

27:33WE'D BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT ON

27:35OUR ANALYSIS AS WELL AND.

27:37PROVIDE THAT.

27:37>> FOR COUNCIL TO SEE.

27:41SO NEXT UH NEXT STEPS UH

27:43COMMITTEE DISCUSSION TODAY AND

27:44FEEDBACK ON THE STAFF

27:46RECOMMENDATION TO ROLL OUT THIS

27:47ENHANCED ANALYSIS UH IF DESIRED

27:49THE COMMITTEE CAN VOTE TO

27:50ACCEPT THE STAFF

27:51RECOMMENDATION.

27:52AND CLOSE THE REFERRAL TODAY.

27:54UM WE WILL.

27:55SHARE THE.

27:56>> ENHANCED REZONING REPORTING

27:57WITH COUNCIL.

27:57AND UPCOMING COUNCIL PACKETS.

27:59ANOTHER THING THAT UH, STAFF

28:01HAS BEEN WORKING ON.

28:02>> THAT WE'D.

28:03>> LIKE TO PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH

28:04IS KIND OF A, UH.

28:06FAQ FOR UH, TRANSPORTATION.

28:09>> SO IT'S ACRONYMS ANDA

28:10DEFINITIONS THAT WE THINK.

28:11COULD BE HELPFUL FOR Y'ALL.

28:13UM AND.

28:13THEN OF COURSE WE'D LIKE TO

28:15ROLL.

28:15OUT UM, THIS.

28:16ENHANCED REZONING REPORTING.

28:18SO AT THE.

28:19NOVEMBER ZONING.

28:20MEETING ON NOVEMBER.

28:22>> 16TH.

28:22THE NEW TRANSPORTATION STAFF

28:24ANALYSIS, UH.

28:25WOULD ROLL OUT AND.

28:27THEN UM.

28:28EARLY 2027 IS WHENEVER WE'D

28:30LIKE TO.

28:31INCORPORATE SOME.

28:32>> ADDITIONAL AREA CONTEXT IN

28:33OUR FINAL STAFF ANALYSIS AS

28:36WELL.

28:39I CAN.

28:40>> TAKE THIS.

28:41>> SLIDE BRENDAN.

28:41PERFECT.

28:41>> THANK YOU.

28:42SO.

28:42UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, YOU MAY

28:44HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE.

28:45UM.

28:45>> THROUGHOUT THE DAY IN YOUR

28:47OTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

28:49UH, THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT

28:51WE'RE USING NOW.

28:53TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE.

28:54STANDARDIZING ACROSS.

28:55ALL OF.

28:56>> OUR COMMITTEES TO UH TO GET.

28:58GOOD DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL.

29:00>> AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE

29:01KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT YOU'RE

29:02ASKING.

29:02US TO DO.

29:03UH, SO WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD.

29:07A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

29:08UM.

29:09>> THAT, UH.A

29:10YOU REVIEWED.

29:11LAST MONTH.

29:12AND THEN WE.

29:13REFINED BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK

29:14.

29:15SO IF YOU ARE.

29:16READY, UH.

29:17THE YOU COULD TAKE ACTION.

29:19TO NUMBER TWO.

29:20UM, TO.

29:21HAVE STAFF IMPLEMENT THOSE

29:23RECOMMENDATIONS BUT TAKE NO

29:25FURTHER.

29:25COUNCIL ACTION.

29:27IF YOU ARE NOT READY FOR THAT

29:28THEN YOU CAN CHOOSE ITEM UH

29:31OPTION.

29:31DOOR NUMBER.

29:32THREE UM CONTINUED DISCUSSION

29:33WHICH WOULD KEEP THAT REFERRAL

29:35OPEN.

29:36UM THIS PARTICULAR REFERRAL AT

29:38THIS TIME DOES NOT HAVE ANY

29:40RECOMMENDATIONS THAT REQUIRE

29:41FULL COUNCIL ACTION.

29:43SO UM UH DOOR NUMBER ONE IS IS

29:46NOT CURRENTLY UM ON THE ON THE

29:48TABLE.

29:48SO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT

29:50THIS SLIDE AND THOSE OPTIONS

29:52THEY TIE BACK TO YOUR COMMITTEE

29:55TRACKER.

29:56UH SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK

29:57TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING

29:59GOOD TRACK AND KEEPING YOU ALL

30:01UPDATED ON WHERE ALL ALL OF THE

30:03REFERRALS ARE.

30:04SO YOU WILL BE SEEING THIS

30:05SLIDE UH, IN THE REFERRALS TO

30:07COME AND WITH THAT I WILLA UM

30:10HAND IT BACK TO YOU CHAIR

30:11DRINKS UH TO.

30:13HAVE CONVERSATION.

30:15SO DOCTOR WATLINGTON.

30:16THANK YOU SIR.

30:17UM.

30:19I KNOW.

30:19COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON IS ON THE

30:21LINE.

30:21UH, SO.

30:22I'M HAPPY TO.

30:23DEFER TO.

30:24>> HER IF SHE HAD SOMETHING TO

30:25SHARE.

30:25>> BUT I.

30:25DON'T.

30:25SEE ANYTHING IN.

30:26QUEUE SO.

30:28I WILL CONTINUE.

30:29THANK YOU FOR BRINGING.

30:30THIS, UM, QUESTION FOR YOU.

30:33IF I AM LOOKING TO DETERMINE

30:36HOW MUCH MORE CAPACITY AND

30:38AFFECT THAT STREET CAN HANDLE,

30:40WHERE DO I SEE THAT ON THIS.

30:42ENHANCED LIST?

30:44SO THAT'S.

30:44>> A TRICKY QUESTION BECAUSE UM

30:47.

30:48TRANSPORTATION TRAVEL IS PRETTY

30:49FLUID.

30:51SO UM REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH

30:53CAPACITY A THE CAPACITY OF A

30:56ROAD IS THE CAPACITY OF THE

30:57ROAD SO WE.

30:57COULD PROVIDE YOU KNOW WHAT THE

30:59UH.

31:00DAILY TRAFFIC.

31:01IS OF THE.

31:01NEARBY ROADWAY FACILITY.

31:04UM, BUT I THINK IT'S WE DO A

31:06LOT OF THINGS.

31:07WITH OUR.

31:08>> REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS

31:08FLESHING OUT STREET

31:09CONNECTIVITY, AENCOURAGING

31:12MULTIMODAL.

31:12>> AND WORKING TOWARDS OUR

31:135050.

31:13MODE SHIFT.

31:14UM, SO I I GUESS WE COULD

31:18PROVIDE WHAT THE CAPACITY IS OF

31:19THE ROADWAY BUT IN TERMS OF

31:21WHAT'S AVAILABLE IT'S A LITTLE

31:23TRICKY TO PROVIDE THAT FOR.

31:25EVERY PETITION.

31:27YEAH.

31:28>> AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY

31:28WHY THIS ONE HAS BEEN LINGERING

31:31ON.

31:31RIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S THE

31:31FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION RIGHT IS

31:33CAN THIS ROAD OR THESE ROADWAYS

31:35HANDLE MORE VOLUME.

31:38UM AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT

31:39WE'RE ABLE TO BETTER ANSWER

31:40THAT QUESTION THAT'S UM I THINK

31:43THE GOAL UM.

31:48YEAH I THINK THAT THAT IS THE

31:51FOR ME THE TAKE AWAY FROM ANY

31:53TYPE OF ANALYSIS IS ARE WE ARE

31:56WE CHOKING OURSELVES AT THESE

31:59POINTS OR CAN WE HANDLE MORE

32:01VOLUME THERE ABOUT MORE TRIPS,

32:03MORE UNITS ETC. ETC.?

32:05UM SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE FOR

32:08US COLLEAGUES TOA TO CONTINUE

32:12INVESTIGATING WHAT THAT LOOKS

32:13LIKE BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS THE

32:15CRUX OF IT WHEN IT COMES TO HOW

32:17DO WE MAKE A DECISION WHETHER

32:18OR NOT WE SHOULD SUPPORT

32:20ADDITIONAL GROWTH IN A

32:21PARTICULAR AREA?

32:22UM, AND WHILE CERTAINLY I CAN

32:24APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE SOME

32:25THERE'S SOME NUANCE TO IT AND

32:27MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF UM.

32:31TO IT THAT'S THE INFORMATION

32:33REALLY THAT IS NEEDED AND I

32:34WOULD HATE TO SEND YOU DOWN A

32:35PATH OF PROVIDING MORE

32:36INFORMATION IF IT'S NOT

32:37NECESSARILY GOING TO DRIVE, UH

32:38,ANY MORE OF AN INFORMED

32:40DECISION.

32:41UM, I THINK ABOUT DEPUTY CITY

32:44MANAGER HEPNER.

32:45I THINK ABOUT THE WORK UM,

32:46THAT'S GOING ON AND SEE THAT

32:47WITH THE MODELING AND WHATNOT.

32:49AND SO.

32:51IT MAY BE.

32:53THAT THAT.

32:54THAT WORK INFORMS THIS AND IF

32:56SO THEN UM UH I THINK WE WOULD

32:58SERVE OURSELVES WELL TO MARRY

33:01THIS WORK UP WITH THAT.

33:02UM.

33:03>> AND THAT TIMELINE RATHER

33:06THAN CLOSING THIS ONE OUT GIVEN

33:07THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO

33:09HAVE A LITTLE BIT MOREA

33:10HORSEPOWER, IF YOU WILL IN

33:11TERMS OF MODELING SIMULATION,

33:13DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

33:14SO YES.

33:15AND JUST FOR.

33:16FOR UM CONTEXT.

33:17FOR FOLKS WATCHING UH, THE CITY

33:21HAS ENGAGED WITH UMC CHARLOTTE

33:25TO UH MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS

33:27AROUND OUR TRANSPORTATION UH,

33:30MODELING TOOLS AND PROCESSES

33:32AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE

33:34MAY BE ABLE TO DO WITH THAT

33:36WORK IN THE FUTURE IS DO

33:39SMALLER AREA MODELING.

33:42UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY AS IT

33:45RELATES TO THE TIMELINE OF THE

33:47REFERRAL IS I WOULD RECOMMEND

33:50THAT WE UH BECAUSE THAT COULD

33:55BE ANOTHER 12 MONTHS UM, TO GET

33:58THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN

34:00ANOTHER PERIOD OF TIME TO

34:02IMPLEMENT UH NEW MODELING

34:05SOLUTIONS.

34:06UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT

34:08HOLDING THIS PARTICULAR

34:10REFERRALA OPEN IF FOR THAT

34:13SPECIFIC PURPOSE BUT

34:14POTENTIALLY ASKING STAFF TO

34:18REVISIT.

34:19THIS IN WHEN THOSE

34:22RECOMMENDATIONS.

34:22ARE DELIVERED.

34:24I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME SOME

34:26THINGS WE COULD LEARN FROM THIS

34:29PROCESS WITH UH, UMC CHARLOTTE

34:31THAT WILL INFORM ACTUALLY QUITE

34:33A LOT OF THE DECISIONS THAT.

34:34>> YOU ALL MAKE.

34:35UM AND AND WHAT I WOULD WHAT I

34:37WOULD ASK IS IS THE PLACE WHERE

34:40WE ARE NOW INCREMENTALLY.

34:43SUFFICIENT BASED ON WHAT WE CAN

34:45DO NOW.

34:46NOW I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION

34:48FOR ME.

34:49NO, UM, BECAUSE THE THE OUTCOME

34:52REALLY IS ABOUT HOW DO I

34:54IMPROVE MY ABILITY TO MAKE A

34:55BETTER.

34:55DECISION AS.

34:56>> THE DATA INFORMED.

34:58UM AND SO UNLESS AND UNTIL

35:00THAT'S DONE I DON'T KNOW THAT

35:02FROM WELL I DO KNOW THAT FOR

35:03ME, UM, THIS ONE WOULD REMAIN

35:06OPEN WHILE I RECOGNIZE THAT

35:07THERE MAY BE SOME RUNWAY THERE.

35:08SO.

35:09>> DOCTOR WATLINGTON, IF.

35:10A

35:10>> I MAY I'D LIKE TO ASK

35:11BRANDON TO, UH, GO BACK TO PART

35:14OF THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE

35:16THIS IS NOT.

35:17THE ONLY.

35:18PIECE OF THE RECOMMENDATION.

35:20UM, AND SO.

35:21WE DID HAVE QUITE A LOT OF

35:24CONVERSATION LAST MONTH.

35:26UM, ON SLIDE SIX IF.

35:28WE CAN GO BACK TO THE UM.

35:31TO THESE COMPONENTS UNDER AREA.

35:33CONTEXT.

35:34>> I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO UH

35:37ASK BRANDON TO TALK A LITTLE

35:38BIT ABOUT THAT PIECE WHICH UM

35:41WHICH I THINK IS REALLY GETTING

35:43AT THE THE QUESTIONS THAT

35:45YOU'RE ASKING.

35:45BUT WHEN IT'S SPECIFICALLY BE

35:47ANSWERED IN THE TRANSPORTATION

35:49SMART STAFF ANALYSIS BUT ARE

35:51ACTUALLY INCORPORATED THROUGH

35:53PARTNERSHIP WITH PLANNING AND

35:55CDOT INTO THE FINAL STAFF

35:57ANALYSIS.

35:57SO BRANDON, COULD YOU TALK A

35:58LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS?

36:00SURE.

36:00>> YEAH.

36:00AND I'M I'M GLAD THE MODEL CAME

36:02UP BECAUSE THERE.

36:02>> IS MORE TO.

36:04>> TO TALK ABOUT WITH THIS

36:05TOPIC.

36:06UM.

36:06SO WITH THE AREA.

36:07CONTEXT UMA PROVIDING THAT

36:11SNAPSHOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT

36:12THAT'S.

36:12OCCURRING IN THE AREA.

36:14>> I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW HOW

36:15MANY UNITS ARE UNDER

36:16CONSTRUCTION.

36:16>> WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED BUT

36:17UNBUILT OTHER PENDING REZONINGS

36:19.

36:19SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF

36:21WHAT ELSE HAS BEEN APPROVED.

36:22>> IN THE AREA.

36:23UM, ALSO TOTAL DEVELOPMENT

36:25COMPARED WITH THE GROWTH

36:27ASSUMPTIONS.

36:28UNDERLYING THE.

36:29POLICY MAP.

36:30SO OUR MODEL OUR REGIONAL

36:32TRAFFIC.

36:32MODEL UH IS.

36:34ALIGNED WITH.

36:35GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS FROM THE

36:37POLICY MAP.

36:38SO IF A DEVELOPMENT ALIGNS.

36:40WITH OUR POLICY MAP ASSUMPTIONS

36:42THEN THAT MEANS THAT THE

36:45REGIONAL.

36:45MODEL IS ON TRACK SO THAT OUR

36:47CAPITAL INVESTMENT CAN COME

36:48BACK AND MAKE THINGS WHOLE.

36:50AFTER DEVELOPMENT.

36:51UM.

36:52>> IF FOR SOME REASON.

36:53COUNCIL APPROVES A PROJECT THAT

36:55DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE POLICY

36:56MAP.

36:57THEN PLANNING AND CDOT GET

36:59TOGETHER.

37:00WE SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH

37:01THE UPDATED PROJECTS.

37:02>> THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND

37:04WE UPDATE OUR REGIONAL MODEL

37:05AND THE.

37:05GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS IN THAT.

37:07SPECIFIC AREA.

37:09UM AND.

37:09>> THEN OFA COURSE ANY OTHER

37:11INFRASTRUCTURE.

37:12INVESTMENTS THAT.

37:12>> ARE.

37:13UNDERWAY OR PLANNED.

37:14UM.

37:14>> ARE ARE A BIG PART OF.

37:17TELL THEM THE COMPLETE PICTURE.

37:18>> IN ADDITION.

37:19TO WHAT THIS ONE.

37:20DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE.

37:22BEFORE THE.

37:23UH THE COUNCIL UH TO MAKE A

37:25DECISION ON UM SO YEAH, WE TAKE

37:27ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO

37:28ACCOUNT UH, TO DECIDE, YOU

37:31KNOW, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH

37:32CAPACITY NOW OR ARE WE.

37:33PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AND.

37:35>> WE'VE.

37:35GOT THE INFORMATION SUCH THAT

37:36WE CAN COME BACK AND.

37:37INVEST LATER.

37:38AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

37:40UH, FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION

37:41NETWORK.

37:42SO THAT PIECE I NEED A LITTLE

37:43BIT MORE CLARITY ON UM BECAUSE

37:46RIGHT NOW I'M SEEING OTHER

37:48DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OCCURRING

37:48IN THE SURROUNDING AREA

37:50INCLUDING UNITS UNDER

37:51CONSTRUCTION APPROVED BUT

37:52UNBUILT AND OTHER PENDING

37:53REZONING.

37:53SO WE HAVE THAT TODAY TOTAL

37:56DEVELOPMENT COMPARED TO THE

37:57GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS UNDERLYING

37:58THE POLICY MAP.

38:06THAT CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

38:08WELL LET ME LET ME ASK YOUA

38:10TOTAL DEVELOPMENT.

38:11COMPARE IT TO THE GROWTH

38:12ASSUMPTIONS UNDERLYING THE

38:13POLICY MAP.

38:14THE POLICY MAPS GROWTH

38:16ASSUMPTIONS WERE BASED ON WHAT

38:17CAPACITIES.

38:19THE POLICY MAP.

38:21UM I DON'T KNOW IF I

38:23UNDERSTAND.

38:23>> THE QUESTION.

38:23WHAT I'M SAYING IS IN ORDER TO

38:25DEVELOP THE POLICY MAP WE HAD

38:26TO DETERMINE WHAT DENSITY WE

38:28FELT LIKE EACH PARCEL COULD

38:29TAKE BASED ON WHAT.

38:33THE CURRENT.

38:40HI MONICA HOLMES, PLANNING.

38:41DIRECTOR UM.

38:42>> THE.

38:43POLICY MAP THAT.

38:44>> YOU FIRST ADOPTED IN.

38:452022 AND.

38:46>> THEN LATER ADOPTED APRIL

38:4813TH OF THIS PAST YEAR TAKES

38:49EVERY PARCEL IN THE COUNT IN

38:52RED J UM AND ACTUALLY FEEDS

38:55INTO SO IT MAKES A GROWTH

38:57ASSUMPTION TO YOUR POINT AND

38:58HAS PRESCRIBED DENSITY UH

39:01DEVELOPMENT TYPE BASED ON THE

39:04TEN PLACE TYPES THAT WERE

39:05ADOPTED.

39:06SO LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD ACTIVITY

39:07CENTER PLACE TYPE HAS A GROWTHA

39:10ASSUMPTION UM ASSIGNED TO THAT

39:14AND THAT FEEDS INTO THE

39:15REGIONAL MODEL THAT CDOT HAS ON

39:18THEIR MODELING TEAM.

39:19SO THAT BASICALLY WE WORK IN

39:22PARTNERSHIP UM AND IT'S A MULTI

39:24COUNTY.

39:25MODEL BUT.

39:27WE CONVERT OUR TEN PLACE TYPES

39:29WITH DENSITY ASSUMPTIONS INTO

39:31THAT UH TRANSPORTATION MODEL

39:34THAT THEN IS USED TO PLAN

39:37INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS.

39:40SO IF THE COLORS MATCH THE MOST

39:42SIMPLE WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS IF

39:43THE COLORS MATCH THEN BY 2040

39:47IT IS OUR WE ARE WORKING THAT

39:49THE TRANSPORTATION

39:51INFRASTRUCTURE CAN SUPPORT THE

39:55COLORS ON THE MAP.

39:56AND SO.

39:58THANK YOU FOR THAT.

39:59THE COLORS ON THE MAP HOW DO WE

40:01KNOW THAT THE COLORS ON THE MAP

40:02ARE THE APPROPRIATE COLOR FOR

40:03THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE

40:05BECAUSE IN ORDER TO PLAN WHAT

40:09INFRASTRUCTURE NEED IS NEEDEDA

40:10TO CLOSE THE GAP WE NEED TO

40:12UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GAP IS

40:13TODAY, RIGHT?

40:14BECAUSE IF WE'RE ALREADY OVER

40:16CAPACITY THAT'S IMPORTANT

40:19INFORMATION TO KNOW WHETHER OR

40:20NOT WE NEED TO INCREASE

40:23TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE

40:24TO A CERTAIN LEVEL TO ABSORB

40:26NOT ONLY THE DECISIONS THAT WE

40:29MAKE TODAY FORWARD, BUT ANY

40:31KIND OF CAPACITY OVERRUNS THAT

40:34ALREADY EXIST.

40:35SO I'M JUST HOW DID WE

40:36DETERMINE THE FLOOR?

40:38LIKE AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY I

40:40WOULD IMAGINE HAD TO SAY.

40:42THIS IS WHAT THIS ROAD CAN

40:43HANDLE.

40:44>> THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

40:44THEREFORE THIS IS THE RIGHT

40:46COLOR.

40:48IT WELL IT STARTS WITH A 2040

40:50PLAN.

40:51SO THE COLORS ON THE MAP AREN'T

40:53THERE BASED OFF OF WE ARE

40:55GROWING BY X AMOUNT AND WE'RE

40:57USING VERY SOPHISTICATED

40:59MODELING TO SAY THIS IS THE

41:02GROWTH OF OUR CITY AND THE

41:04GROWTH OF OUR REGION.

41:05NOW HOW CAN WE BEST ACCOMMODATE

41:07THAT GROWTH AND SO WE CAN DO IT

41:10INA MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

41:11WE CAN GROW OUT AND CONTINUE

41:15SUBURBAN, YOU KNOW, BECOMING

41:16MORE SUBURBAN WHICH IS

41:19TYPICALLY LESS EFFICIENT ON THE

41:22TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE

41:23SIDE, MEANING THAT YOU'RE THEN

41:25SPENDING MORE DOLLARS TO KIND

41:29OF KEEP UP TO THAT GROWTH OR

41:31THE MODEL THAT WE UH, CHOSE AS

41:34A AS A CITY AS PART OF THE 2040

41:37PLAN WAS BASED ON CENTERS WHERE

41:41THE MAJORITY OF OUR GROWTH IS

41:43OCCURRING PROXIMATE TEN MINUTE

41:45NEIGHBORHOODS PROXIMATE TO

41:47CENTERS AND THEN OUR

41:49INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AGAIN

41:52DONE IN PARTNERSHIP TIES TO THE

41:55STRATEGIC INVESTMENT AREAS,

41:56TIES TO THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY

41:58PLAN AND THAT WE ARE NOW

42:02SINKING UP THE MAJORITY OF OUR

42:04FUTURE TRANSPORTATION

42:05INVESTMENT IN THOSE GROWTH

42:08CENTERS.

42:09SO THAT TOA YOUR POINT, THE

42:11FLOOR YES, THERE'S THERE'S

42:12ALWAYS GOING TO BE.

42:14THEY'RE ALWAYS.

42:15WORKING TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP

42:17RIGHT.

42:17YOU'RE GROWING YOUR.

42:18APOLOGY REAL QUICK IS THAT UH

42:20MY QUESTION IS A LITTLE BIT

42:21MORE SIMPLISTIC THAN WHAT MAYBE

42:23I.

42:25I'LL USE A DIFFERENT EXAMPLE.

42:29I KNOW HOW MUCH HOUSE I CAN

42:32AFFORD BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MUCH

42:34I EARN AND I KNOW WHAT I'M

42:36ALREADY SPENDING MONEY ON.

42:37I KNOW WHAT MY DEBT TO INCOME

42:39RATIO IS.

42:40SO ALL I'M ASKING AT THIS POINT

42:42IS HOW MUCH OF OUR INCOME HAVE

42:44WE ALREADY SPENT SO THAT WE

42:46KNOW HOW MUCH HOUSE WE CAN

42:47AFFORD?

42:48RIGHT?

42:49AND THAT'S THE PIECE THAT I'M

42:51STILL SEARCHING FOR AN ANSWER

42:53FOR.

42:53LIKE WE CAN MATT OKAY I CAN I

42:56CAN GO BUY $50,000 MORE WORTH

42:59OF STAFF IF I EARN $50,000 MORE

43:02WE CAN MATCH THAT ONE FOR ONE

43:03GOING FORWARD.

43:04BUT TODAY I DON'T KNOW THAT I

43:06DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M

43:08ALREADY OVERSPENDING BY 25,000.

43:10DO YOUA FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

43:11I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING

43:12AND I THINK THAT ANSWER IS

43:14THERE'S NOT A SIMPLE ANSWER

43:16BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY

43:18JUST DOESN'T WORK.

43:20IT'S NOT AN ADDITION PROBLEM

43:21WHERE YOU ADD MORE UNITS AND

43:23THEN THEREFORE NOW YOU'VE

43:24REACHED THE CAP BECAUSE PEOPLE

43:26ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING THEIR

43:27HABITS AND ADAPTING TO THE

43:29REALITY OF WHAT.

43:30EXISTS.

43:31>> I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.

43:32I DO THINK THOUGH THAT WHEN IT

43:34COMES TO PLANNING BUILD OUT

43:36THERE IS SOME CAPACITY SOME

43:39SOME VOLUMES OF CAPACITY

43:41UNDERSTANDING UM AND THAT'S THE

43:43PIECE THAT I'M THAT I'M STILL

43:44NOT SEEING HERE.

43:44SO I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE

43:45POINT.

43:45I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS PROBABLY

43:46HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT MY POINT

43:48WITH THAT IS I FEEL LIKE

43:49THERE'S STILL MORE HERE BEFORE

43:50WE CAN CALL THIS DONE.

43:52THAT'S ALL.

43:53THANK YOU.

43:54>> THANK YOU.

43:54UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MAYFIELD.

43:59THANK YOU.

44:00>> CHAIR.

44:01ACTUALLY DOCTOR.

44:02WATLINGTON UH YEAH.

44:03CLARIFICATION THAT I NEED IT.

44:04THANK YOU.

44:06COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

44:10THANKA YOU, MR. DRIGGS.

44:12UM.

44:12>> YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO

44:13BELABOR THE POINT EITHER.

44:15I'M WITH DOCTOR WATLINGTON.

44:17I THINK THAT WE CAN CONSIDER

44:18THIS ONGOING.

44:20I WAS ACTUALLY.

44:21SURPRISED WHEN.

44:22BRANDON SAID LET'S BUTTON THIS

44:23UP.

44:24UM.

44:24>> BECAUSE THIS IS AN ONGOING.

44:26ISSUE.

44:27>> WE'VE BEEN.

44:27ASKING ABOUT.

44:28INFRASTRUCTURE AND CUMULATIVE

44:29IMPACT SINCE AT.

44:30LEAST 2022.

44:32SO I.

44:33FEEL LIKE THERE'S A.

44:35I DON'T KNOW, ALMOST.

44:36A MEASUREMENT.

44:37ON HOW.

44:38LONG REFERRALS.

44:38ARE STAYING OPEN.

44:40SO IF LEAVING THIS.

44:41REFERRAL OPEN HELPS.

44:43>> TO.

44:44PRIORITIZE LOOKING AT THIS.

44:46PROCESS THEN WE.

44:47DEFINITELY NEED.

44:48>> TO LEAVE IT OPEN.

44:49IT'S NOT WE NEED MORE

44:51INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MAKE

44:53INFORMED DECISIONS.

44:54AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

44:55I TALK ABOUT MALAD CREEK ALL OF

44:57THE TIME.

44:58IT WAS A MEETING.

45:00ON SATURDAY AND.

45:01RESIDENTS AND.

45:02AND LEXINGTON COMMUNITY ARE

45:03SAYING THEY CANNOT THEY CAN NO

45:05LONGER GET OUT OF THEIR

45:07SUBDIVISION ON MALAD CREEK.

45:09AND I YOU ALLA KNOW I'VE PULLED

45:11MAPS UM SO YOU KNOW MY VISUAL

45:13AIDS BUT I'VE PULLED MAPS OF

45:15THE DEVELOPMENT ON MALAD CREEK

45:17AND AND LIKE DOCTOR WATLINGTON

45:19SAID IF WE COULD JUST MEASURE

45:21THE TRIPS THE NUMBER OF TRIPS

45:23OR A NUMBER OF APPROVED AND BY

45:25RIDE AND PENDING DEVELOPMENTS

45:27HOW MANY TRIPS O'MALLEY CREEK

45:29WE HAVE SOME NUMBER UM WE KNOW

45:33THAT STREETS LIKE MALLARD CREEK

45:35IN MOUNT HOLLY, HUNTERSVILLE

45:37ROAD, PROVIDENCE UM HIGHWAY 160

45:40WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS

45:42SO WE WE NEED INFORMATION IN

45:45ORDER TO MAKE INFORMED

45:47DECISIONS.

45:48THERE HAS TO BE SOME LOGIC

45:50THERE.

45:50OTHERWISE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS

45:52WE DON'T KNOW THE LOGIC.

45:54WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A

45:55MEASUREMENT ON HOW WE'RE

45:56MEASURING THIS YET WE'RE

45:57CONTINUING TO APPROVE

45:59DEVELOPMENT.

46:01SO UH I'M I'M NOT FOR CLOSING

46:03THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS IS

46:05A TOOL THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED

46:07.

46:08AND AGAIN, IF YOU NEED A PILOT

46:10AREAA YOU KNOW MALLARD CREEK.

46:11THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF UNITS

46:14THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ALL

46:16ALONG THAT AREA BUT AND THERE

46:19WOULD BE A NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT

46:21WE HAVE AND AND DOES THAT

46:23HIGHWAY ACCOMMODATE ACCOMMODATE

46:26THAT WE KNOW THERE'S NOT GOING

46:27TO BE IMPROVEMENT ON THAT STATE

46:28OWNED ROAD FOR, YOU KNOW, A

46:30LONG TIME.

46:32SO WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW?

46:33IS THAT AN AREA THAT IF THERE'S

46:35NO PLAN TO IMPROVE THEN PERHAPS

46:38WE SHOULD.

46:40STOP OR SUSPEND APPROVING

46:44PETITIONS ALONG THAT AREA.

46:46SO UM YEAH I, I WOULD SUPPORT

46:48LEAVING THIS REFERRAL OPEN AS

46:50WELL.

46:51THANK YOU.

46:52IT'S HAFNER.

46:53COUNCIL MEMBER.

46:54JOHNSON THANK YOU I DO WANT.

46:56>> TO I WANT TO, UM, TAKE US

46:59BACK TO LAST MONTH JUST BRIEFLY

47:03BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE

47:04SAYING.

47:05HAS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.

47:07UM, SO WHEN WE.

47:09WHEN WE.

47:09TALKEDA LAST.

47:11MONTH AND THEN WHERE YOU CAN

47:12SEE IN UM INSIDE SIX ABOUT THE

47:16AREA CONTEXT UM LAST MONTH YOU

47:19SHARED THAT THIS WAS EXACTLY A

47:21PIECE OF WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING

47:23FOR, UM, THAT THIS IS THE PART

47:25THAT WILL IDENTIFY UM, THE

47:28NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE UM,

47:31COMING ONLINE IN THE

47:33SURROUNDING AREA WHETHER THEY

47:36ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WHETHER

47:38THEY'RE APPROVED BUT NOT YET

47:40BUILT, WHETHER THERE ARE OTHER

47:41PENDING REZONINGS.

47:43SO I THINK BACK TO SOME UM, YOU

47:45KNOW, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF

47:46EXTRA HOMEWORK WHEN I WHEN I

47:48TOOK THIS NEW ROLE UM, AND AND

47:51I THINK BACK TO SOME OF THE

47:52ZONING MEETINGS WHERE UM, YOU

47:55AND OTHERS AND EVEN SOME OF THE

47:57CONCERNED RESIDENTS HAVE COME

47:59FORWARD WITH KIND OF HAND

48:01GENERATED SOME TOTALS.

48:03UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE,

48:06UM, IS THAT WE WOULD GIVE YOU

48:09THOSE SOME TOTALSA AS A PART OF

48:11THE STAFF ANALYSIS.

48:13UM, SO AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE

48:16SURE THAT THERE'S NOT A

48:19DISCONNECT UM, BECAUSE I, I

48:22WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE

48:24GOING TO KEEP THE REFERRAL OPEN

48:25WHICH IS YOU KNOW, AT AT YOUR

48:27AT YOUR PLEASURE UM, THAT WE'RE

48:30ACTUALLY GETTING THE DIRECTION

48:31FOR STAFF ABOUT WHAT TO BRING

48:34BACK TO YOU UM, BECAUSE THESE

48:37THESE ITEMS THAT I'M HEARING UM

48:39,ARE PART OF THE PROPOSAL UM

48:42FROM STAFF AND ALSO PART OF

48:45WHAT YOU REVIEWED UM, AND THAT

48:48LAST MONTH.

48:51SO IF I COULD JUST.

48:53INTERJECT HERE, UM.

48:55A CRITICAL ISSUE.

48:57IS CAN WE DEFINE.

48:58A CERTAIN THRESHOLD OF

49:00CONGESTION OR TRAFFIC BEYOND

49:01WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO GO?

49:03RIGHT.

49:04AND WHEN YOU.

49:05THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE,

49:06RIGHT.

49:06LIKE HOW.

49:07LONG IS YOUR WAIT.

49:07TIME TO GET IN AN INTERSECTION.

49:09HOW MANY LIGHT CYCLES DOES IT

49:10TAKEA TO GET THROUGH AN

49:11INTERSECTION?

49:12IF YOU LOOK AT BIGGER CITIES.

49:13CHARLOTTE YOU REALIZE THAT AS

49:16THE POPULATION GROWS.

49:17THE TIME IT TAKES TO TRAVEL ON

49:19THE ROADS GETS LONGER.

49:21I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A

49:22WAY WE CAN AVOID THAT.

49:23.

49:24>> AND THE THING THAT WE NEED

49:25TO.

49:25RECOGNIZE IS.

49:26THAT AS WE SCRUTINIZE THE

49:29INFRASTRUCTURE AND.

49:31THEN MODIFY OUR DECISIONS.

49:33>> AS TO DEVELOPMENT.

49:34,THE HOUSING COSTS ARE JUST

49:37GOING TO GO UP.

49:38BECAUSE WE.

49:39IDENTIFIED VERY.

49:40CLEARLY THAT HIGHER DENSITY.

49:42AND MORE HOUSING WAS THE WAY

49:44YOU.

49:44PUSH BACK.

49:45AGAINST THE RISE IN HOUSING

49:47COSTS.

49:47>> SO THAT'S THE TENSION IN

49:48THIS POLICY CONVERSATION AND I

49:51DON'T THINK THERE IS A.

49:53WAY THAT WE CAN.

49:53DRAW A.

49:54>> LINE AND SAY OH YOU'RE ON

49:55THE WRONG SIDE OF.

49:56THAT LINE AND THEREFORE YOU

49:57CAN'T DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO

49:59AND IT'S NOT AN EASY THING.

50:01UH, AND.

50:02CERTAINLY IN MY DISTRICT TWO

50:03PEOPLE HAVE.

50:03>> TOLD ME.

50:05I HAVE.

50:05>> TO WAIT FOR FIVE MINUTES TO

50:06GET OUT OF MY INTERSECTION OR

50:08AGAIN THE LIGHT CYCLES.

50:10AINTERSECTIONS ARE GRADED ON A

50:11SCALE UP TO FIVE I BELIEVE.

50:13SO YOU CAN LOOK AND.

50:14>> SEE WHERE THE F RATED

50:15INTERSECTIONS ARE, WHICH ARE

50:16THE ONES THAT HAVE THE WORST

50:18PROBLEM GETTING THROUGH.

50:20UH.

50:21PERSONALLY I THINK THIS IS

50:23BETTER THAN NOTHING SO.

50:25I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD

50:26IF WE STARTED TO GET THESE

50:28REPORTS.

50:28DID NOT.

50:29>> TREAT IT AS BEING.

50:30>> THE LAST TIME WE WILL.

50:31TALK ABOUT THIS OR DO ANYTHING

50:33WITH THIS, BUT.

50:34THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER AT

50:35THIS POINT IN TIME.

50:37THAN WHAT.

50:38>> WE HAVE.

50:38HERE THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT

50:40OF.

50:41UH JUST.

50:41KEEPING THIS OPEN.

50:42>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE

50:43GOING TO DISCUSS NEXT TIME AND

50:45.

50:45>> UNLESS SOMEBODY.

50:46CAN TELL ME WHAT WE'RE GOING TO

50:49DISCUSS NEXT TIME, IT SEEMS TO

50:50ME THAT.

50:51WE SHOULD START GETTING THIS.

50:53INFORMATION IN OUR.

50:54ZONING MEETINGS.

50:54UH.

50:55>> THIS COMMITTEE CAN.

50:56ALWAYS TALK ABOUT.

50:58WHETHER ANOTHER.

50:59>> UH, REFERRAL IS CALLED FOR.

51:01OR WHETHER WE HAVE.

51:02SOMETHING NOW AS AS FOR

51:03EXAMPLE.

51:04RESULTS COME OUT.

51:05OF THE STUDY THAT'S BEING DONE

51:07.

51:07UH, CERTAINLY WHEN WE.

51:09START TO GET THATA INFORMATION,

51:11THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO WANT

51:12TO LOOK.

51:13>> AND.

51:13SEE OKAY NOW WHAT CAN WE DO?

51:14BUT I THINK WE.

51:16>> NEED TO BE.

51:16CLEAR THAT WITH.

51:18>> THE GROWTH WE'RE

51:18EXPERIENCING.

51:19AND GIVEN.

51:20>> THE TENSION ABOUT.

51:20HOUSING PRICES, WE'RE NOT.

51:22GOING TO BE.

51:23ABLE TO CREATE A SITUATION IN

51:25WHICH.

51:25SOME PEOPLE.

51:27WHO ARE UNHAPPY ABOUT THE

51:28TRAFFIC THEY'RE EXPERIENCING.

51:30UH.

51:31>> CAN BE FULLY SATISFIED.

51:33SO UH.

51:34UH COMMITTEE I GUESS WE CAN UH

51:37UH.

51:38VOTE ON THIS.

51:39>> UH, BUT UH.

51:40MAY I ASK FOR ONE CLARIFICATION

51:42ACTUALLY ON ON THE REPORT

51:44BECAUSE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE

51:46ON THIS THAN WHAT YOU SAW LAST

51:48MONTH AND IT MIGHT BE DRIVING

51:50SOME OF THE.

51:51UM SOME SOME OF THE CONCERNS.

51:53SO BRANDON, WILL YOU WILL YOU

51:55ADDRESS.

51:57UM THE.

51:58THE MISSING TABLE?

52:01OH UM YEAH.

52:02SO UH.

52:02THE AREA CONTEXT TABLE YOU

52:04MEAN.

52:04YOU KNOW AVERAGE.

52:06OH, THE ANNUAL AVERAGE DAILY

52:07TRAFFIC.

52:08UM SO RIGHT SO.

52:10AWE CAN.

52:11>> ADD WE.

52:11>> WERE GOING TO ADD.

52:12>> THAT TO THE EXISTING ROADWAY

52:13DATA TABLE TOWARDS THE TOP OF

52:16THIS UH TO INCLUDE AVERAGE

52:18ANNUAL DAILY TRAFFIC.

52:19SO YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY WHAT

52:20THE CAPACITY IS FOR EACH OF

52:22THOSE EXISTING ROADWAYS.

52:24>> THAT ARE.

52:24NEARBY THE SITES.

52:27SO SO ONE ONE OPTION IS THAT WE

52:31CAN CLEAN CLEAN THAT UP AND

52:36PILOT IT IN UM THE NOVEMBER

52:38MEETING AND THEN COMMITTEE CAN

52:40CONSIDER IF AT THAT POINT.

52:43UH THE.

52:44THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE

52:47HAS MET YOUR.

52:48EXPECTATIONS.

52:50>> WHAT I WOULD SAY COMMITTEE.

52:52IS JUST.

52:52>> RIGHT NOW.

52:53STAFF IS AT A POINT WHERE

52:54THEY'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT TO

52:55DO BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE

52:56HEARING AND THEREFORE IF PEOPLE

52:59WHO DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD

53:01GO FORWARD WITH THIS CAN JUST

53:02SPELL OUT.

53:03HERE'S WHAT I NEED FROM.

53:04>> YOU, I WANT TO.

53:05KNOW THIS INTERSECTIONS

53:08WHATEVER IT IS.

53:09BUT IA CAN TELL YOU THERE IS NO

53:11SINGLE NUMBER.

53:11THAT DEFINES THE CAPACITY OF A

53:13ROAD.

53:14IT'S JUST AS YOU GET MORE CARS

53:15.

53:16>> ON THE.

53:16ROAD THE TRAFFIC MOVES.

53:18>> MORE SLOWLY.

53:18IT'S A PROGRESSION.

53:20UH, SO.

53:21UH TO TRY AND CREATE THAT

53:23STANDARD.

53:24>> ALSO I CAN TELL YOU THAT

53:25DEPENDING ON THE.

53:26LOCATION AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES

53:27FROM.

53:28PLACE TO PLACE.

53:29YOU WOULDN'T.

53:30>> WANT.

53:30TO TRY TO.

53:31APPLY THE SAME STANDARD ANYWAY.

53:33NOW DO YOU HAVE A STANDARD THAT

53:34SAYS IS THERE A WAIT TIME MORE

53:36THAN TEN MINUTES TO COME OUT OF

53:38AN INTERSECTION?

53:39OKAY.

53:40.

53:40IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT THEN WE

53:41HAVE TO ASK WHETHER OR NOT THAT

53:43CAN BE ASCERTAINED AND TASKED

53:46THE STAFF TO DO SOMETHING.

53:48OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO BE

53:49BACK HERE NEXT MONTH HAVING THE

53:50SAME CONVERSATION.

53:54YES MISS ONE DOCTOR.

53:55YOU'RE THANK YOU.

53:57UM, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH

54:01MORE CLEAR I COULD BE ABOUT

54:03WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.

54:04I DON'T WANT TO BE PRESCRIPTIVE

54:07TO YOU ABOUT THE HOW TO GO DO

54:09IT.

54:10THISA I WANT YOU TO GO GIVE ME

54:11THIS METRIC BACK.

54:12UM, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT

54:17IMPOSSIBLE.

54:18RIGHT.

54:19UM, AND SO, UH, IF IF WE NEED

54:21THAT LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY,

54:24PLEASE GO BENCHMARK OTHER

54:27CITIES.

54:27I THINK YOU'VE DONE THOSE

54:28THINGS RIGHT SO I DON'T I DON'T

54:30WANT TO SELL YOU THAT BUT WHAT

54:32I WHAT I DO NEED IS TO BE ABLE

54:36TO SAY WHETHER YOU WANT TO

54:38MEASURE IT IN TERMS OF OF

54:40TRAVEL TIME BECAUSE WE CAN

54:43BUILD MORE HOUSES ARE WE WANT

54:45TO BUT IF YOU'RE SITTING IN

54:46TRAFFIC FOR TWO HOURS TO GET TO

54:47THOSE HOUSES BECAUSE WE'VE

54:49OVERBUILT OUR CAPACITY, THAT'S

54:52A DIFFERENT COST, RIGHT?

54:54AND CERTAINLY A DIFFERENT

54:54QUALITY OF LIFE PIECE.

54:55AND SO I DON'T WANT US TO UM I

54:59DON'T WANT US TO CONFLATE A

55:00NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS

55:01HERE.

55:01WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW

55:03MUCH MORE CAN THE ROAD TAKE ANY

55:05TIME WE HAVE TO HAVE A

55:06CONVERSATION AROUND DO WE NEED

55:07TO ADD A LANE?

55:09IT'S THESE SAMEA TYPES OF

55:10QUESTIONS NOW THE LAST COUPLE

55:11OF THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED

55:13CERTAINLY OPEN TO SEE IT AT THE

55:14VERY LEAST THAT WOULD BE THE

55:16NEXT STEP IS TO SEE IF WHAT YOU

55:17WERE JUST DISCUSSING UM

55:20ADDRESSES THE NEED BUT AT THE

55:21END OF THE DAY WE WE DO NEED

55:23SOME KIND OF METHODOLOGY THAT'S

55:25CLEAR TO TO US AND TO THE

55:26PUBLIC OF HOW WE DECIDE HOW WE

55:28GROW BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE DON'T

55:30EVEN NEED TO BE MANAGING THIS

55:31IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO MANAGE IT

55:33RIGHT.

55:33I AM WE BEING COUNCIL I'M

55:35SAYING UH DETERMINING HOW HOW

55:38MUCH WE WANT TO GROW AND WHERE

55:40AND HOW WE ENABLE THAT GROWTH

55:42IN OTHER PLACES IT'S GOT TO BE

55:43BUILT ON SOMETHING.

55:45UM, SO CERTAINLY I THINK

55:47THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE HERE

55:49BUT THE THE GOAL IS WHERE ARE

55:52WE TODAY?

55:54WHERE ARE WE TRYING TO GO?

55:55HOW DID THESE PARTICULAR

55:58REZONINGS FIT.

55:59WITHIN THAT SPACE?

56:01UH WE JUST NEED THE DATA TO

56:02DRAW THAT CAUSAL LINK.

56:04SO WOULD IT BE HELPFUL IF.

56:06WE REPORTED THE.

56:06AVERAGE ANNUAL DAILY.

56:08TRAFFIC WHICH ARE OUR.

56:10ACOUNTS ON THAT ROAD AND THEN

56:11THE CAPACITY OF THE ROAD TO MR.

56:14DRIGGS POINT?

56:16UM, YOU KNOW SOME ROADWAYS.

56:18DO THEY ARE THEY'RE CAPPED AT

56:19THEIR.

56:19CAPACITY RIGHT NOW AND WHENEVER

56:21THAT HAPPENS YOU KNOW, QUEUES.

56:23FORM UH, DRIVERS.

56:24SHIFT TO OTHER ROUTES OR TIMES

56:26.

56:27UM, SO.

56:30WOULD US PROVIDING THE THE.

56:32THE DAILY.

56:33COUNTS IF WE HAVE THEM BECAUSE

56:35WE USUALLY GET THAT.

56:36>> ON OUR.

56:37MAJOR ROADWAYS EVERY TWO YEARS

56:38.

56:40UM AND THE CAPACITY OF THE

56:42ROADWAY WOULD THAT BE

56:43INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE

56:43HELPFUL FOR YOU ALL TO SEE AT

56:45THE TOP AND THE EXISTING

56:46ROADWAY DATA.

56:46?

56:47>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M

56:48ASKING FOR.

56:48OKAY.

56:49>> WE CAN WE.

56:49>> CAN TAKE.

56:50>> A LOOK FOR PEAK TIMES LIKE

56:51WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO

56:52KNOW THE AVERAGE BECAUSE IT'S

56:54REALLY THE PEAK.

56:55THIS PEAK.

56:55>> MIGHT.

56:56BE CHALLENGING.

56:58WELL YOU KNOW WHAT DATA YOU

56:59HAVE ON WHAT YOU DON'T.

57:00BUT THAT SAID WHAT NEEDS TO BE

57:02TRUE FOR YOU TO GIVE IT BECAUSE

57:03WHILE CERTAINLY I CAN

57:05APPRECIATE THAT HEY, THIS IS

57:06WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IF THAT

57:08MEANS WE NEED TO GO GET NEW

57:09THINGS THEN THAT'SA WHAT WE DO

57:11RIGHT?

57:11AND WE NEED TO WE AS A COUNCIL

57:13NEED TO ENABLE YOU TO GO DO

57:14THAT.

57:14BUT I DON'T WANT US TO BE BOUND

57:15BY TODAY.

57:16WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT NEEDS

57:17TO BE TRUE TO GET WHERE WE'RE

57:19TRYING TO GO AND THEN WE

57:19ORGANIZE OUR RESOURCES AROUND

57:21IT.

57:21>> IT MAKES SENSE.

57:22I DON'T WANT YOU TO TRY TO

57:23CREATE A MIRACLE.

57:24JUST TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE AND

57:25WHAT YOU NEED TO GET US WHERE

57:27WE'RE TRYING TO GO AND WE'LL

57:28WORK BACK.

57:28FROM THERE.

57:29>> LET US JUST I THINK I HAVE A

57:31COUPLE IDEAS TOO, BUT IT'S LIKE

57:32IF WE CAN TALK IT ANYWAYS.

57:34WITH AND.

57:35>> I THINK WHAT I WOULD WHAT

57:36I'M HEARING WHICH I APPRECIATE

57:37DOCTOR WATLINGTON IS THAT YOU

57:40KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

57:42THAT OUR TEAM HAS WORKED WITHIN

57:44FOR THIS REFERRAL IS WHAT DATA

57:46DO WE HAVE AND WHAT STAFF

57:49RESOURCES DO.

57:49>> WE.

57:49HAVE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

57:51?

57:52UM, AND UH AS AS YOU AS YOU

57:56KNOW AND AND WE WILL ALL BE

57:58LEARNING OVER THE NEXT YEAR

57:59WITH THE WORK WITH UMC

58:00CHARLOTTE IT IS BOTH STAFF

58:04INTENSIVE AND RESOURCE

58:06INTENSIVE TO MODEL UM AT AT A

58:09VERY SMALLA SCALE AND SO WHAT

58:12WHAT WE CAN DO IS COME BACK

58:16WITH.

58:17A CLEARER.

58:17PICTURE OF WHAT WE HAVE AND

58:20THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF

58:23WHAT TYPE OF STAFF AND UM, AND

58:28FINANCIAL RESOURCES IT WOULD

58:29TAKE TO DO SOMETHING.

58:31MORE AND THEN AT THAT POINT YOU

58:35COUNSEL COMMITTEE AND AND YOUR

58:37COLLEAGUES THAT AT COUNCIL CAN

58:39MAKE A DETERMINATION IF THE IF

58:41THE.

58:44>> THE RESOURCE.

58:45EXPENDITURE IS WORTH THE

58:46INFORMATION THAT YOU.

58:47>> WILL GET.

58:49UM I THINK WE'VE WE HAVE

58:50ABSOLUTELY WORKED WITHIN THE

58:52CONSTRAINTS OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE

58:54BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT

58:54ARE BEING ASKED FOR UM DO

58:57REQUIRE A PRETTY SOPHISTICATED

59:00UM AND DATA INTENSIVE MODELING

59:03,UM, THAT WE CERTAINLY DON'T

59:05HAVE AND I WOULD I WOULD

59:06VENTURE THAT ALMOST NO CITY.

59:08DOES AT.

59:09>> THIS SCALE BUTA WE CAN BRING

59:11.

59:11BACK A.

59:12>> PICTURE OF WHAT THAT WHAT

59:13THAT WOULD TAKE.

59:15THANK YOU.

59:17SO COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON AND

59:18GRAHAM I SEE YOU I JUST WANTED

59:20TO QUICKLY SAY.

59:21IT WOULD BE GOOD.

59:22>> WHEN YOU DO THIS YOU SAY.

59:24UH CAPACITY.

59:25WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

59:26HOW ARE YOU DEFINING CAPACITY?

59:28LIKE WHAT CONDITIONS EXIST WHEN

59:30.

59:30THAT POINT IS REACHED.

59:32BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE AT CMS

59:34OPERATES A WHOLE BUNCH OF

59:35SCHOOLS THAT ARE HUNDRED AND.

59:3620% AND MORE OF CAPACITY.

59:39UH.

59:40SO WE DON'T JUST.

59:41DECLARE A.

59:41MORATORIUM ON.

59:42>> DEVELOPMENT WHEN A CERTAIN

59:44CAPACITY IS REACHED.

59:45SO I THINK FROM WHAT.

59:46WE'RE HEARING.

59:47TO FOCUS ON THIS.

59:48ISSUE OF THAT PROGRESSION OF UH

59:51,YOU KNOW, INCREASING TRAVEL

59:53TIMES AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, UH

59:55.

59:55I'M JUST UH.

59:57I KEEP REPEATING I'M CONCERNED

59:58THAT IF THIS TRANSLATES INTO

1:00:01DIALING.

1:00:01BACK, UH, CREATION OF HOUSING

1:00:04OR DENSITY.

1:00:04>> OF.

1:00:05HOUSING.

1:00:05>> WE'RE WORKING AGAINST

1:00:07ANOTHER CRITICAL PURPOSE.

1:00:09THIS JOHNSON.

1:00:11ATHANK YOU.

1:00:12>> AND SOME OF US WOULDN'T

1:00:13SUPPORT SLOWING DOWN

1:00:15DEVELOPMENT EVEN IF THE SCHOOLS

1:00:16WERE AT 160 OR 180% YOU KNOW

1:00:20SOMEONE COUNCIL.

1:00:21SO UM BUT I WILL SAY THE UM YOU

1:00:26SAID BRANDON, WE KNOW THAT

1:00:28WE'RE OVER CAPACITY IN SOME

1:00:30AREAS COUNCIL DOESN'T KNOW THAT

1:00:31WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY

1:00:33IS.

1:00:33SO IF WE HAD THAT INFORMATION I

1:00:35THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

1:00:37COUNCIL MEMBER DRAKES UH ALSO

1:00:39MENTIONED THE RATING THE

1:00:41RATINGS OF THE INTERSECTIONS IF

1:00:42WE HAD THAT INFORMATION AS WELL

1:00:45THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

1:00:46SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST TRYING

1:00:48TO GET AN IDEA OR AN ASSESSMENT

1:00:50OF WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE SO

1:00:52THAT WE CAN MAKE THE DECISIONS

1:00:54IF THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ARE A

1:00:57GOOD IDEA IN CERTAIN AREAS.

1:01:01SO UH AND AS FAR AS

1:01:02INFRASTRUCTURE IT'S NOT JUST

1:01:04TRAFFIC.

1:01:04THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE.

1:01:05UH, MISS SMITH DIRECTOR SMITH

1:01:07BUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT

1:01:09INFRASTRUCTURE WE WERE TALKINGA

1:01:10ABOUT SCHOOLS AND SAFETY AND

1:01:12WATER AND INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG

1:01:14WITH TRAFFIC.

1:01:16UM SO SO WE WE REALLY WANT A

1:01:19MEASUREMENT OF WHAT HAS BEEN

1:01:20THE IMPACT OF ALL OF THIS

1:01:22EXPLOSIVE GROWTH AND THAT'S

1:01:23WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO ASSESS

1:01:26RIGHT NOW.

1:01:27THANK YOU.

1:01:28COLLEAGUES I DON'T KNOW IF YOU

1:01:30REMEMBER IN MY DISTRICT.

1:01:31>> THERE WAS A REZONING WHERE

1:01:32THE PETITIONER.

1:01:33SHOWED TRAFFIC ON PINE.

1:01:34VILLE MATTHEW ROAD AND IT WAS

1:01:36ALMOST EMPTY.

1:01:37THE CARS WERE FLOWING FREELY

1:01:39AND THEN THE RESIDENTS CAME

1:01:40BACK.

1:01:40AND THEY HAD.

1:01:41PICTURES DURING RUSH.

1:01:42HOUR OF BUMPER TO BUMPER

1:01:44TRAFFIC.

1:01:45SO UH.

1:01:46THAT THAT'S I THINK WHAT WE'RE

1:01:48UP AGAINST, RIGHT?

1:01:49I MEAN WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS

1:01:50ARE.

1:01:50HAVING TO.

1:01:50RESPOND TO PEOPLE ENDURE THOSE

1:01:53CONDITIONS.

1:01:53MR. GRAHAM.

1:01:56UH THANK YOU MR..

1:01:56UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND I REALLY

1:01:58DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION

1:02:00.

1:02:00I THINK IT'S A RICH

1:02:01CONVERSATION WHEN THAT WE NEED

1:02:03TO HAVE BUT I DON'T WANT TO

1:02:05LEAVE THE IMPRESSION TO THE

1:02:06PUBLIC THAT SOMEHOW WE ARE NOT

1:02:08FOCUSING STUDY AND PLANNING,A

1:02:10UM, FOR GROWTH.

1:02:12THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

1:02:15UH, OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS

1:02:16WE'VE MADE A NUMBER OF

1:02:18INITIATIVES GOING BACK TO THE

1:02:202040 POINT IN THE YOUDO AND UH

1:02:22,THE STRATEGIC AREA PLANS AND

1:02:25UH APPROVING THE ONCE IN SALES

1:02:27TAX FOR BETTER BUSSES AND ROADS

1:02:29AND TRANSIT AND UH, THE THE THE

1:02:32OUR HERE THE FOR THIS YEAR TO

1:02:36INVEST IN UH ROAD CONSTRUCTION

1:02:39UM THE I-77 EXPANSION WHETHER

1:02:41YOU VOTE FOR IT NOW IS GOING TO

1:02:43HELP UM INFRASTRUCTURE AND AND

1:02:45PLANNING FOR GROWTH RIGHT.

1:02:47AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE CAN AGREE

1:02:49THAT WE DISAGREE IN REFERENCE

1:02:51TO UM UM TO WHAT EXTENT RIGHT.

1:02:54UM AND CERTAINLY I LIVE IN THE

1:02:56UNIVERSITY CITY AREA OVER HERE

1:02:57FOR 31 YEARS, 32 YEARS AND OUR

1:03:01INFRASTRUCTURE OUR ACCESS TO.

1:03:03HARRIS BOULEVARD UH 8577 UH UH

1:03:07CERTAINLY WE HAVE SOME UM

1:03:08CHURCH THE MARKET ROADS INA THE

1:03:10BACK CREEK AREA BUT OUR

1:03:11INFRASTRUCTURE IS PRETTY GOOD,

1:03:12RIGHT?

1:03:13UM UM IT'S A PERFECT NO UM UM

1:03:17BUT IT'S A GREAT SYSTEM THAT

1:03:19WORKS, UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY ON

1:03:21OUR SIDE OF TOWN.

1:03:22UH, I THINK IT DOES.

1:03:24UM, AND SO I THINK WE ARE DOING

1:03:26THE RIGHT THINGS IN TERMS OF

1:03:29PLANNING FOR CHARLOTTE GROWTH.

1:03:30UM, CLEANED UP THE, UM THE

1:03:33INVESTMENT IN THE IN THE

1:03:34APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE

1:03:35WHERE IT'S NEEDED.

1:03:36UH, AND CERTAINLY WE ARE TO PAY

1:03:37ATTENTION TO, UH, HOW WHEN AND

1:03:39TO WHAT EXTENT WE APPROVE

1:03:41REZONINGS I THINK THAT'S REALLY

1:03:42CRITICAL.

1:03:43UM, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, I SAY

1:03:45ONCE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN I'M

1:03:47NOT UM I SUPPORT BALANCED

1:03:49GROWTH PLAN FOR GROWTH.

1:03:51UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE WANT

1:03:53TO TURN OFF THE SPIGOT, UM,

1:03:55BECAUSE IT'S THE GROWTH THAT'S

1:03:56PROVIDING THE JOBS FOR OUR

1:03:58COMMUNITY AND AND I THINK THE

1:04:01CHAIRMAN IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

1:04:02IN TERMS OF ANALYSIS IN TERMS

1:04:04OF OF HOW AND TO WHAT EXTENT UM

1:04:07,THAT HELPS AFFORDABILITY UH,

1:04:10ANDA OF HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY

1:04:11AND SO WE CAN HAVE AN HONEST

1:04:14DISAGREEMENT BUT I THINK WE ALL

1:04:16SHOULD AGREE HOPEFULLY THAT

1:04:17SOMEHOW THAT WE ARE PUTTING

1:04:19FORTH OUR BEST EFFORTS UH, TO

1:04:22JUSTIFY TO THE COMMUNITY THAT

1:04:23UH, WE'RE NOT JUST APPROVING

1:04:25REZONINGS BLINDLY AND NOT

1:04:27PUTTING OTHER THINGS IN PLACE

1:04:28THAT IMPACT UM, GROWTH AND

1:04:30DEVELOPMENT.

1:04:31SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT

1:04:32WITH THE ROOM AND I'M NOT SURE

1:04:34WHAT WE DO IN THE MEANTIME LIKE

1:04:37WHAT'S NEXT BY KEEPING IT OPEN

1:04:39BUT UM I'LL KEEP AN OPEN EAR

1:04:41AND KIND OF FIND OUT WHERE WE

1:04:43GO FROM HERE.

1:04:43BUT UM I THINK IT WAS PRESENTED

1:04:46BEFORE US TODAY, UH, THERE'S A

1:04:47GOOD FIRST STEP IN ANSWERING

1:04:49SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

1:04:51UH, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WON'T

1:04:52BE ANSWERED TODAY OR NEXT MONTH

1:04:55OR EVEN NEXT YEAR.

1:04:55AND SO I GUESS WE COULD UH YEAH

1:04:58,AT LEAST THE PRELIMINARY

1:04:59REPORT FROM YOU AND SHOW THAT

1:05:00KIND OF INFORMS US BUT EVEN

1:05:02THAT A YEAR OR A YEAR AND A

1:05:04HALF AS I UNDERSTAND IT AWAY

1:05:05AND SO WE STILL HAVE TO, UH,

1:05:08MAKE CRITICAL DECISIONS ALONG

1:05:09THE WAY ANDA WE CERTAINLY CAN'T

1:05:11STOP MAKING DECISIONS.

1:05:12UH, I THINK WE MAKE INFORMED

1:05:14DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN,

1:05:16UM, PUT BEFORE US AND I THINK

1:05:18STAFF IS CERTAINLY REALLY GOOD

1:05:19JOB TRYING TO ANTICIPATE, UH,

1:05:21OUR NEEDS AS A COUNCIL AND UH,

1:05:23GIVING US THE RIGHT DATA SO

1:05:25THAT WE CAN MAKE INFORMED

1:05:25DECISIONS ON THE WIDE VARIETY

1:05:27OF ISSUES RELATING TO REZONING

1:05:28.

1:05:29SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT

1:05:30WITH THE ROOM.

1:05:30THANK YOU.

1:05:31THANK YOU, MR. GRAHAM HEFNER.

1:05:33YES THANK YOU.

1:05:34SO I I I THINK WE HAVE GOOD

1:05:38FEEDBACK ABOUT UM WHAT

1:05:40ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT

1:05:41YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

1:05:42I DO.

1:05:43WANT TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS

1:05:45JUST.

1:05:45>> A LITTLE.

1:05:46BIT AROUND THAT UH BECAUSE

1:05:48WE'RE WORKING FROM THE POLICY

1:05:51REFERRAL.

1:05:51UM.

1:05:52>> SPECIFICALLY THE POLICY

1:05:54QUESTION THAT THE MAYOR LAID

1:05:55OUT UM MAYOR LY WAS LAID OUT

1:05:57AND THEN UH, MAYOR HARRINGTON

1:05:59REVISED THAT COUNCIL'S REQUEST.

1:06:01SO WE ARE.

1:06:02SPECIFICALLY ANSWERING A

1:06:03QUESTION ABOUT HOW SHOULD

1:06:06TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE

1:06:08REQUIREMENTS BE CLEARLY DEFINED

1:06:10,ADOCUMENTED AND COMMUNICATED

1:06:13INCLUDING CUMULATIVE IMPACTS OF

1:06:15TRAFFIC TO SUPPORT INFORMED

1:06:18REZONING DECISIONS?

1:06:20SO I I WANT TO BRING US BACK TO

1:06:22THE POLICY.

1:06:23QUESTION JUST TO MANAGE

1:06:25EXPECTATIONS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

1:06:27UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT

1:06:29STAFF MIGHT BE BRINGING BACK

1:06:31BECAUSE WE ARE FOCUSED IN THIS

1:06:33REFERRAL ON TRANSPORTATION

1:06:35INFRASTRUCTURE AND.

1:06:37UH AND I.

1:06:38THINK THAT UH WE ARE ALSO

1:06:41FOCUSED ON THE INFORMATION THAT

1:06:43YOU NEED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS

1:06:45AND SOME OF THE DEBATE ABOUT

1:06:48THOSE DECISIONS WILL CONTINUE

1:06:49TO OCCUR AS PART OF THE

1:06:52REZONING.

1:06:53UM, DELIBERATIONS.

1:06:56AND SO WE WON'T BE BRINGING

1:06:57BACK IN A SINGLE ANSWER.

1:07:00BUT WHAT WE CAN BRING BACK IS

1:07:02THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT

1:07:04YOU ARE REQUESTING.

1:07:06SO LET US GIVE THAT UM ANOTHER

1:07:08ANOTHER TRY.

1:07:10UMA AND IF IF IT IF IT'S UM.

1:07:16UM IT PLEASES.

1:07:17THE COMMITTEE WE WOULD LIKE TO

1:07:19ROLL OUT WHAT HAS BEEN

1:07:22DEVELOPED AS A AS A FIRST.

1:07:24STEP SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE

1:07:25THIS INFORMATION IN THE CLEAR

1:07:28REPORTING FORMAT, UM, WHILE

1:07:30WE'RE STILL WORKING TOWARDS UH

1:07:32,MEETING YOUR.

1:07:34EXPECTATIONS UNDER.

1:07:34>> THIS, UM.

1:07:37THE ENHANCED REPORTING.

1:07:39.

1:07:40>> SO YOU WANT TO ROLL IT OUT,

1:07:41ARE YOU SAYING OR.

1:07:42WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH

1:07:43THIS?

1:07:44WE UM IF.

1:07:47IT UH IF YOU WOULD LIKE THIS

1:07:49INSTEAD OF WHAT YOU'RE

1:07:50CURRENTLY RECEIVING IN YOUR

1:07:51ZONING PACKETS AS IT RELATES TO

1:07:54TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS, STAFF

1:07:56CAN START PROVIDING THAT AS

1:07:58EARLY AS YOUR NOVEMBER MEETING.

1:08:00BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WAIT

1:08:02UNTIL THEY HAVE, UH, ADDED.

1:08:06ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE

1:08:07CAN ALSO.

1:08:08>> WAIT.

1:08:09.

1:08:10>> SOA COLLEAGUES THAT'S KIND OF

1:08:11WHAT I THOUGHT.

1:08:11I THINK UH.

1:08:12MY KEEN.

1:08:13INSTINCTS TELL ME THAT THE.

1:08:14ROOM IS AT UH THREE.

1:08:16AND NOT TWO IN TERMS.

1:08:17>> OF OUR NEXT STEPS.

1:08:18UM.

1:08:20SHOULD WE.

1:08:20>> JUST GET THIS.

1:08:21NEW REPORT.

1:08:23AND NOT CLOSE?

1:08:23NOT.

1:08:24>> UH.

1:08:25>> CLOSE IT OFF.

1:08:26LIKE I.

1:08:26>> DON'T PLAN TO KEEP WORKING

1:08:27ON THIS, BUT START LOOKING AT

1:08:28THE REPORT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SO

1:08:31FAR.

1:08:31IT I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN

1:08:32THAT.

1:08:33IT DOESN'T.

1:08:34PRECLUDE ANYTHING.

1:08:36BUT FRANKLY.

1:08:37>> I THINK IT'S A.

1:08:37STEP RIGHT.

1:08:38>> I THINK IT'S A STEP IN THE

1:08:39RIGHT DIRECTION.

1:08:40>> IT'S NOT THE ONLY THING WE

1:08:41NEED TO DO.

1:08:42SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO

1:08:44STARTING.

1:08:45TO SEE THIS INFORMATION WHILE.

1:08:47ALSO PLANNING TO CONTINUE THE

1:08:50CONVERSATION BASED ON.

1:08:52UH, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE

1:08:54HAD TODAY?

1:08:57I SEE ONE OBJECTION.

1:08:59DOES ANYBODY ELSE OH.

1:09:00THAT OH, IS.

1:09:02THAT OKAY?

1:09:02>> I THOUGHT.

1:09:02MAYBE YOU WERE VOTING TO

1:09:03OBJECT.

1:09:04OH NO, WE.

1:09:04DON'T HAVE A MOTION SO OKAY.

1:09:05NO, NO, THIS WAS A KIND OF A

1:09:07WITHOUT.

1:09:08OBJECTION TYPE OF THING.

1:09:09DID YOU WANT.

1:09:09>> TO SPEAK.

1:09:10AI DID, PLEASE DO.

1:09:11YEAH.

1:09:12UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

1:09:14OH.

1:09:15>> FIRST OF ALL, UH, DEPUTY

1:09:17CITY MANAGER, I APPRECIATE WHAT

1:09:18YOU JUST SAID IN THE ROOM IN

1:09:19TERMS OF LEVEL SETTING BECAUSE.

1:09:21I DO.

1:09:22WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN

1:09:24WE'RE HAVING THESE

1:09:25CONVERSATIONS WE ARE NOT WE ARE

1:09:28NOT CONNECTING OR LUMPING IN

1:09:31TOGETHER THE CONCLUSION VERSUS

1:09:32THE DATA AND THE DISCUSSION TO

1:09:35GET TO A CONCLUSION.

1:09:36UM.

1:09:38AND I.

1:09:38>> THINK SOMETIMES WE FOUND

1:09:40OURSELVES NOT WANTING TO LOOK

1:09:41AT THE DATA BECAUSE WE DON'T

1:09:43WANT TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION

1:09:44BECAUSE WE MADE IT TO A.

1:09:45CONCLUSION AND AND SO I I AGREE

1:09:48WITH YOU THAT I HOPE THAT WE

1:09:50ARE ABLE TO TO KEEP AN OPEN

1:09:52MIND LONG ENOUGH TO GET THE

1:09:54INFORMATION AND THEN WE CAN

1:09:55HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT

1:09:56WHATEVER IT IS.

1:09:57BUT LET'S NOT LET'S NOT LIMIT

1:10:00OURSELVES TO WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

1:10:01UM, IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT,

1:10:03CERTAINLY FOR.

1:10:05ME IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST

1:10:06SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT

1:10:07I'VE HEARD SO FAR, IT SOUNDS

1:10:08LIKE SOME THINGS THAT ARE

1:10:10ALREADY EXISTA THAT YOU ALL ARE

1:10:11LEANING ON THAT WE STILL DON'T

1:10:13SEE HERE I WOULD I THINK IT

1:10:15WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT TO JUST

1:10:16DO IT IN ONE.

1:10:19UM NEW THING THAT WAY COUNCIL

1:10:20IS NOT SEEING AN ITERATIVE

1:10:22PROCESS IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT

1:10:24CAN COME FORWARD IN THE NEXT

1:10:25MONTH I WOULD JUST AS SOON HOLD

1:10:27OFF ON IT BUT THAT'S THAT'S

1:10:28JUST ME.

1:10:29I DON'T FEEL SUPER STRONGLY ONE

1:10:30WAY OR THE OTHER.

1:10:33ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

1:10:36SO I DON'T HEAR A LOT OF.

1:10:38OBJECTIONS TO THE IDEA OF

1:10:39SEEING THIS, BUT UNDERSTANDING

1:10:42THAT.

1:10:42>> I HOPE.

1:10:43>> YOU HAVE.

1:10:43>> HAD ACTIONABLE FEEDBACK.

1:10:44UH, IT'S KIND OF CLEARER IN MY

1:10:46MIND FRANKLY THAT UH THERE'S

1:10:48PROBABLY INFORMATION THAT WE

1:10:50HAVE THAT.

1:10:50WOULD HELP.

1:10:51TO JUST GET BACK AT THE.

1:10:52QUESTION WHAT.

1:10:53IS THE PRACTICAL IMPACT ON THE

1:10:55TIME IT TAKES TO TRAVEL ON THE

1:10:57ROADS AS A RESULT THAT.

1:10:59I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S IF I.

1:11:01>> TRIED TO SUMMARIZE IT I.

1:11:02THINK THAT'S THE GIST.

1:11:03RIGHT.

1:11:03>> UH AND WE HAVE A LOT OF

1:11:06INFORMATION.

1:11:06ABOUT THAT.

1:11:07>> LIKE THE EXISTING TRAFFIC

1:11:08CONDITIONS WE CAN SEE PEAKA

1:11:10TRAFFIC UH PATTERNS WE CAN SEE

1:11:12THE IMPACT THE.

1:11:13INCREMENTAL IMPACT BUT IT

1:11:15DOESN'T.

1:11:16FOR US.

1:11:17ON COUNCIL.

1:11:18TRANSLATE INTO.

1:11:20WHAT'S IT.

1:11:20>> GOING TO BE LIKE TO TRY AND.

1:11:21DRIVE ON THAT ROAD IF.

1:11:23THIS DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED?

1:11:26SO UH.

1:11:27AND THAT ALSO IN MY MIND

1:11:29INVOLVES UH TAKING YOUR.

1:11:31CONCEPT OF CAPACITY AND

1:11:33EXPLAINING EXACTLY WHAT THAT

1:11:35MEANS.

1:11:35UH, DOES EVERYTHING STAND STILL

1:11:37WHEN.

1:11:37>> YOU REACH.

1:11:38CAPACITY OR.

1:11:39AT WHERE.

1:11:39>> ARE YOU.

1:11:40AT THAT POINT JUST FOR

1:11:41REFERENCE.

1:11:43SO I THINK UH IS THAT GOOD FOR

1:11:45TODAY EVERYBODY AND IF SO WE

1:11:47HAVE ONE MORE ITEM ON THE

1:11:49AGENDA.

1:11:50WHICH IS.

1:11:51UH, UPCOMING COMMITTEE TOPICS

1:11:52MISS HEPNER.

1:11:54.

1:11:55>> EXCELLENT.

1:11:55THANK YOU.

1:11:56SO THIS WILL BE QUICK.

1:11:58UH.

1:11:58>> IT IS JUST A, UM, PEEK

1:12:01AROUND THE BEND.

1:12:03UH, SOME OF THE WORK THAT YOU.

1:12:04UH.

1:12:05>> WILL BE DOING UH, IN IN

1:12:07NOVEMBER AND UH, IN PARTICULAR

1:12:10BECAUSEA THIS IS WORK THAT.

1:12:13HAS SOME TIME.

1:12:15SENSITIVITY AND WE WE WE KNOW

1:12:18THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING

1:12:20HARD WITH A LOT OF TOPICS AND

1:12:22COMMITTEE AND A LOT OF THINGS

1:12:23THAT HAVE COME OUT OF COMMITTEE

1:12:24AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIT A LOT

1:12:25OF THINGS IN BEFORE THE END OF

1:12:26THE YEAR.

1:12:27SO WE WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE

1:12:28THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU A GOOD

1:12:30IDEA OF WHAT'S UPCOMING.

1:12:32SO THERE'S TWO THINGS IF YOU GO

1:12:33TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

1:12:35UH WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE

1:12:36PREVIOUSLY.

1:12:37MR. DRIGGS NOTED THAT UM THIS

1:12:39IS INCLUDED IN YOUR MEMO UH,

1:12:42AND AND UH, DEPUTY.

1:12:43CITY ATTORNEY.

1:12:44UH, LENA JAMES AND AND HER TEAM

1:12:47SHARED WITH YOU THAT THERE ARE

1:12:49SOME ADDITIONAL UPCOMING

1:12:52ACTIONS RELATED TO THE

1:12:53TRANSITION TO THE MBTA

1:12:54SPECIFICALLY AROUND, UH,

1:12:56PROVISION OF CITY SERVICES.

1:12:59UM, SO LOOKING AT SOME SERVICE

1:13:01AGREEMENTS, UM, AND UH ALSO UM

1:13:05,USE AGREEMENTS.

1:13:07SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER PREVIEW

1:13:09THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT INA

1:13:10NOVEMBER AND AND WE'LL BE

1:13:12MOVING QUICKLY UM TOWARDS UH

1:13:15COUNCIL REVIEW AND ACTION IN

1:13:18DECEMBER NEXT SLIDE.

1:13:21AND THE SECOND.

1:13:22TOPIC THAT IS UM UPCOMING AND

1:13:25TIMELY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE

1:13:26THAT WE'RE UH SHARING WITH YOU

1:13:28.

1:13:29TODAY IS THE.

1:13:30NEXT UDOT TEXT AMENDMENT.

1:13:33UH, SO UH YOU ALL HAVE HAD HAVE

1:13:36HAD MULTIPLE UM TEXT AMENDMENTS

1:13:39AS THE UDO IS CERTAINLY A

1:13:41LIVING DOCUMENT.

1:13:43UM AND THERE ARE A SERIES OF

1:13:46PROPOSED TEXT, UH, AMENDMENTS

1:13:48THAT ARE THAT ARE NECESSARILY

1:13:51NECESSARY SO THAT YOUR UDO WILL

1:13:54COMPLY WITH UH NORTH CAROLINA

1:13:55AND GENERAL ASSEMBLY SESSION

1:13:58LAWS.

1:13:59UH THAT FILING WILL OCCUR ON

1:14:02OCTOBER 15TH.

1:14:03SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT

1:14:04YOU WERE AWARE THAT THAT IS

1:14:06COMING.

1:14:07UH, YOU WILL REVIEW IT AS IS

1:14:09THE TYPICALA PROCESS IN

1:14:11COMMITTEE NOVEMBER 2ND.

1:14:12UM, BUT IN CASE YOU HEAR ABOUT

1:14:14IT AT THE TIME OF FILING OR UM

1:14:17WHEN YOUR UDO ADVISORY

1:14:19COMMITTEE REVIEWS IT AT THE END

1:14:20OF OCTOBER, WE.

1:14:21WANTED YOU.

1:14:22>> ALL TO MAKE SURE UM WE WANT

1:14:23TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNOW

1:14:24THAT'S COMING.

1:14:25SO THAT WILL INCLUDE THINGS

1:14:27AROUND MINIMUM PARKING

1:14:29REQUIREMENTS, UM, DESIGN

1:14:31STANDARDS, VESTING TIMELINES,

1:14:33HOME-BASED BUSINESSES AND THEN

1:14:34AGAIN IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE

1:14:36PREVIOUS TOPIC LANGUAGE CHANGES

1:14:38THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE

1:14:40TRANSITION TO THE TO UH SO YOU

1:14:42WILL YOU WILL HAVE A FULL UH,

1:14:44PRESENTATION FROM MONICA'S TEAM

1:14:47UH ON THAT TOPIC IN NOVEMBER

1:14:49BUT BECAUSE THE FILING IS

1:14:52OCCURRING OCTOBER 15TH WE WANT

1:14:53TO JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE.

1:14:55>> OF.

1:14:55THAT TODAY.

1:14:56SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG THINGS

1:14:57THAT ARE AROUND THE BAND FOR

1:14:59YOUR NOVEMBER MEETING AND

1:15:00DECEMBER COUNCIL ACTION.

1:15:03SO WE CIRCULATE TO.

1:15:05US WHAT YOU FILE ON THE.

1:15:0615TH ACTIVELY SO.

1:15:08>> WE DON'T.

1:15:08>> HAVE TO.

1:15:09GO AND LOOK FOR IT.

1:15:10>> YEAH.A

1:15:10ALL RIGHT.

1:15:12UH COMMITTEE ANYTHING ELSE?

1:15:14I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO

1:15:15ADJOURN.

1:15:16JOHNSON HAD.

1:15:16>> A HAD A I.

1:15:17HAD I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION TO.

1:15:19>> OKAY MISS.

1:15:21>> JOHNSON.

1:15:21IN MY HAND IS THAT.

1:15:22YEAH.

1:15:23OH YEAH.

1:15:23THERE YOU ARE.

1:15:24OKAY.

1:15:24GO AHEAD.

1:15:25THANK YOU.

1:15:26>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1:15:28UM, I WANT TO CLARIFY YOU SAID

1:15:30THE FILING IS GOING TO BE ON

1:15:32OCTOBER 15TH.

1:15:33REBECCA.

1:15:33>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE FILING

1:15:35?

1:15:37UH.

1:15:38>> THE FILING IS THAT'S OUR

1:15:40TYPICAL DEADLINE.

1:15:41SO AS YOU.

1:15:42ARE AWARE, OUR TEXT AMENDMENTS

1:15:44FOLLOW THE REZONING PROCESS SO

1:15:46THEY GET FILED AT THE TIME OF

1:15:48WHEN.

1:15:49SO, UH, ACCORDING TO THIS,

1:15:51THAT'S ALL I NEEDED.

1:15:52I JUST WANTED TO YOU KNOW.

1:15:53WHAT YOU WERE FILING.

1:15:54OKAY, SO I DO HAVE SOME

1:15:55COMMENTS.

1:15:56FIRST I WANT TO THANK

1:15:57COUNCILMEMBER DRAKE FOR

1:15:58ATTENDING THE DISTRICT FOUR

1:15:59COALITION MEETING ON SATURDAY

1:16:01AND HEARING DIRECTLY FROM THE

1:16:03DISTRICT FOUR RESIDENTS AS THE

1:16:04CHAIR OF THE TPD COMMITTEE.

1:16:07UM THE LEXINGTON COMMUNITY

1:16:09ALONG WITH OTHERA COMMUNITY

1:16:10SHARED THEIR CONCERNS AND ONE

1:16:12OF THE THINGS YOU SAID COUNCIL

1:16:14MEMBER DRIGGS WHAT THE WAS THAT

1:16:16THE COMMUNITY AREA PLAN OR THE

1:16:18MODIFICATIONS HAD IMPROVED SOME

1:16:21OF THE POLICIES.

1:16:22SO I HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE

1:16:24STAFF.

1:16:25UM, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO OUT UH

1:16:27TO UM MISS CRAIG EARLIER SO

1:16:29AFTER THE LEXINGTON PROJECT

1:16:32COUNCIL MADE A REFERRAL UM

1:16:34REGARDING BI-RITE DEVELOPMENT.

1:16:36HAS THAT.

1:16:37REFERRAL BEEN FULLY ADDRESSED

1:16:39AND WHAT PROVISIONS OR

1:16:42PROTECTIONS RESULTED.

1:16:43FROM IT?

1:16:44>> YOU MAY BE WONDERING.

1:16:48SO UM I CAN.

1:16:49GO BACK.

1:16:49>> BUT SO THE REFERRAL.

1:16:51UM WAS.

1:16:51>> GENERATED IN MAY.

1:16:53>> OF 2023.

1:16:54>> AND.

1:16:55THE WORDING WAS UM.

1:16:59TO ASK STAFF TO RECOMMEND.

1:17:00ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS INCLUDING A

1:17:02SCHEDULE FOR POTENTIAL.

1:17:03CHANGES TO THE YOUDO ALLOWING.

1:17:05DUPLEXES AND.

1:17:06>> TRIPLEXES AND LARGER.

1:17:07PROJECTS DEVELOPING BY.

1:17:09>> RIGHT.

1:17:09IN RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONSA.

1:17:11SO WE.

1:17:11CAME BACK.

1:17:14TO TBD AND.

1:17:15A NUMBER OF TIMES.

1:17:16TALKING ABOUT.

1:17:18UM WHAT AT THE TIME WAS THERE.

1:17:20WERE A.

1:17:21>> LARGE NUMBER.

1:17:22OF DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

1:17:24USING A.

1:17:25CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT.

1:17:27PROVISION IN THE.

1:17:28>> YOUDO THAT NEEDED SOME.

1:17:30ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE.

1:17:31SURE THAT WE WERE GETTING.

1:17:33UM, THE TYPE OF UH OPEN SPACE.

1:17:35AND WE.

1:17:36>> WERE ALSO.

1:17:37GETTING GOOD ROAD CONNECTIONS.

1:17:39>> AND SO WE MADE THOSE

1:17:40ADJUSTMENTS.

1:17:41WE ALSO.

1:17:41FOUND THAT WE NEEDED.

1:17:43UM, A DEVELOPMENT TYPE THAT UH

1:17:45HELPED IMPROVE.

1:17:46OUR HOUSING STOCK.

1:17:47>> SO THAT WAS OUR COMPACT.

1:17:50>> DEVELOPMENT AND SO THOSE

1:17:51WERE.

1:17:51BOTH APPROVED AND THEN I THINK

1:17:53WE HAD A COMMITTEE DISCUSSION

1:17:54WHERE WE UM WHERE THERE'S A

1:17:56CONVERSATION.

1:17:56THAT REFERRAL UM.

1:17:58HAS CONCLUDED WITH THE ADOPTION

1:18:00OF THOSE TWO TEXT AMENDMENTS.

1:18:03MISS JOHNSON.

1:18:04UH OKAY.

1:18:05THANK YOU.

1:18:06AND CAN STAFF ALSO EXPLAIN WHAT

1:18:08OPTIONS CURRENTLY EXIST FORA

1:18:10NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAYS OR

1:18:12SIMILAR PROTECTIONS FOR FOR.

1:18:16NEIGHBORHOOD?

1:18:17>> MONIE MY UNDERSTANDING IS

1:18:19THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAYS ARE

1:18:20NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED.

1:18:21IS THAT CORRECT.

1:18:23GIVEN THE UH.

1:18:24DOWN ZONING BILL AND THE WAY

1:18:28THAT WE HAVE APPROACHED IT FOR

1:18:32AN OVERLAY TO MOVE FORWARD

1:18:34CURRENTLY WE HAVE ASSESSED THAT

1:18:36THEY WOULD NEED 100% OF THE

1:18:38PROPERTY OWNERS UH, SIGNATURE.

1:18:41SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT

1:18:43DOING THEM, IT'S THAT THAT'S A

1:18:44VERY HIGH HURDLE BECAUSE IF

1:18:46THEY DID NOT HAVE A PROPERTY

1:18:48OWNER SIGNATURE THEN THEY WOULD

1:18:50NOT UH THEY YOU WOULD BE DOWN

1:18:53QUOTE DOWN ZONING SOMEBODY

1:18:55ELSE'S PROPERTY MEANING YOU

1:18:57WOULD BE RESTRICTING HOW THEY

1:18:58MAY DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY.

1:19:00SO IT IS FRONT OF MIND FOR US

1:19:02BUT THAT'S WHERE IT STANDS NOW

1:19:03.

1:19:04OKAY THANK YOU.

1:19:05SO OVER THE WEEKEND THERE WAS A

1:19:06COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE OVER 75

1:19:09RESIDENTS ATTENDED UMA FROM

1:19:11NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS CHARLOTTE.

1:19:12THERE WAS A STRONG

1:19:15DISSATISFACTION WITH THE UDO

1:19:16ALLOWING THE BI-RITE

1:19:18DEVELOPMENT OF DUPLEXES AND

1:19:19TRIPLEXES ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS

1:19:22.

1:19:23RESIDENTS CAN HAVE CONSISTENTLY

1:19:24RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT

1:19:26NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:19:27CHARACTER PRIVACY.

1:19:28AND THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THESE

1:19:29.

1:19:30STRUCTURES AND DURING THE UDL

1:19:33PROCESS, COUNCIL MEMBER WAS

1:19:36TOLD THAT HOA IN DEED.

1:19:38RESTRICTIONS WOULD PROTECT.

1:19:40NEIGHBORHOODS AND I.

1:19:42SPECIFICALLY THOUGHT FOR HIDDEN

1:19:43VALLEY AND OTHER VULNERABLE

1:19:45NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I WAS.

1:19:46CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WOULD

1:19:47HAPPEN IN COMMUNITIES WITHOUT

1:19:49ADEQUATE PROTECTIONS.

1:19:51I RAISED THAT ISSUE PUBLICLY

1:19:53NUMEROUS TIMES AND I EVEN

1:19:56REFERENCED THE MAP YOU KNOW, I

1:19:57HOW I AND WITH MY VISUAL AIDS

1:19:59UM THAT THAT.

1:20:00SHOWED THAT ONLY OR THERE WERE

1:20:0333% OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE

1:20:05VULNERABLE.

1:20:06AREA THAT DID NOT HAVE HOA I

1:20:08BELIEVE IT WAS.

1:20:0933%A AND I DON'T KNOW MISS CRAIG

1:20:11IF YOU CAN PULL THAT MAP AGAIN,

1:20:12I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE VERY

1:20:13HELPFUL AT A TIME LIKE THIS.

1:20:16BUT WHAT COUNCIL WAS NOT

1:20:18ADEQUATELY ADVISED ABOUT WAS

1:20:20THAT EVEN WITH THE DEED

1:20:21RESTRICTIONS THAT EXISTED AT

1:20:23THE BURDEN AND EXPENSE OF

1:20:25ENFORCING THEM COULD FALL ON

1:20:27THE RESIDENTS.

1:20:29SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE

1:20:30SEEING NOW WITH HIDDEN VALLEY

1:20:32RESIDENTS PURSUING LEGAL

1:20:33ACTIONS UH, AGAINST A BUILDER

1:20:36TO ENFORCE THEIR DEED.

1:20:37RESTRICTION WHICH WE WERE

1:20:38VEHEMENTLY TOLD THE

1:20:39NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE.

1:20:41PROTECTED SO RESIDENTS SHOULD

1:20:43NOT HAVE TO BEAR.

1:20:44>> THE COST OF.

1:20:45BURDENED UM OF GOING TO COURT

1:20:47BECAUSE OF CITY POLICIES.

1:20:49THERE IS ALSO SIGNIFICANT

1:20:51DISAPPOINTMENT ABOUT THE

1:20:52AFFORDABILITY OF THOSE DUPLEXES

1:20:54AND TRIPLEXES.

1:20:55THAT'S HOW IT WAS PROMOTED THAT

1:20:56IT WAS GOING TO LEAD TO

1:20:58AFFORDABILITY.

1:20:58UM AND WE KNOW SOME OF THESE UH

1:21:01,DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES ARE UP

1:21:04TO $500,000.

1:21:05SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GET AN

1:21:06AVERAGE OF THE COST OF THESE

1:21:09DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXESA.

1:21:11SO THE QUESTION WE NEED TO

1:21:12ANSWER IF CITY CANNOT.

1:21:14ENFORCE THE PRIVATE DEED.

1:21:16RESTRICTIONS, UM AND

1:21:17NEIGHBORHOODS CANNOT USE

1:21:18NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAYS, WHAT

1:21:20EFFECTIVE TOOLS ARE WE GIVING

1:21:22NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROTECT

1:21:24THEMSELVES?

1:21:25UM AT THE CITY AS MISS CRAIG

1:21:27STATED, THE CITY'S ALREADY

1:21:28MODIFIED.

1:21:29THE POLICY AND THIS IS STILL

1:21:32HAPPENING.

1:21:32UM, AGAIN AND AGAIN WE WERE

1:21:34TOLD THAT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS

1:21:36WOULD PROTECT IT.

1:21:38SO NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER PROBLEM

1:21:39THAT EVEN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE

1:21:42THE RESTRICTIONS MAY HAVE TO GO

1:21:44TO COURT AND SPEND THEIR OWN

1:21:45MONEY TO ENFORCE THE UH, DEED

1:21:48RESTRICTIONS AND OUR POLICY

1:21:50SHOULD NOT PUT RESIDENTS IN

1:21:51THIS POSITION.

1:21:52WE MADE THE MODIFICATIONS WE'VE

1:21:54GIVEN THE POLICY TIME AND

1:21:56RESIDENTS ARE NOW SHOWING US

1:21:57THE CONSEQUENCES IF THE

1:21:59PROTECTIONS WE WERE TOLD

1:22:01COMMUNITIES COULD RELY ON ARE

1:22:02NOT ENOUGH, THEN WE NEED TO

1:22:04TAKE DECISIVE ACTIONS TO

1:22:06PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

1:22:07SO I'M ASKING THAT THE TPDA

1:22:10COMMITTEE REVIEW PROVISION 2.1

1:22:13OF THE UDL.

1:22:15I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT TEXT

1:22:16JOHNSON.

1:22:17JOHNSON YOU ARE WAY OFF THE

1:22:19AGENDA IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT

1:22:21REFERRAL AS A WAY TO DO IT.

1:22:22WE CAN'T HAVE THAT

1:22:23CONVERSATION.

1:22:24>> IT'S JUST NOWHERE NEAR WHAT

1:22:25WAS INTENDED FOR THIS MEETING.

1:22:27SO I THINK YOU MADE.

1:22:28YOUR POINT.

1:22:29>> EVEN ABOUT WE WERE TALKING

1:22:30ABOUT TEXT AMENDMENT.

1:22:32SO YES THAT'S.

1:22:33THAT'S NOT THAT'S A STRETCH

1:22:35PLEASE.

1:22:36THAT'S A STRETCH.

1:22:37WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A.

1:22:38SERIOUS POLICY QUESTION.

1:22:39YOU'RE REVISITING.

1:22:41CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD

1:22:42DURING.

1:22:42>> THE.

1:22:422040 DISCUSSION PROCESS.

1:22:44BUT FOR THIS PURPOSE OF THIS

1:22:46MEETING AND.

1:22:46THIS COMMITTEE.

1:22:47THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT.

1:22:48FORWARD IN A MORE ORDERLY

1:22:50FASHION, WE'RE NOT HERE TO

1:22:51TALK.

1:22:51ABOUT THAT.

1:22:52>> WELL, HERE'S THE THING THERE

1:22:53WAS A MEETING OVER THE WEEKEND.

1:22:54>> IT'S OUR JOB.

1:22:55>> TO.

1:22:56BE RESPONSIVE TO RESIDENTS AND

1:22:57IF WE CANNOT ADEQUATELY PROTECT

1:22:59OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH THE.

1:23:00TOOLS THAT OUR COUNCIL.

1:23:01HAS A.

1:23:02PROCESS FOR BRINGING THESE

1:23:03TOPICS FORWARD.

1:23:05>> MISS JOHNSON.

1:23:06ORDER, PLEASE.

1:23:07YOU DO NOT BULLY THIS COMMITTEE

1:23:09.

1:23:09THAT WAY.

1:23:10ATHIS IS NOT ON THE.

1:23:11AGENDA TODAY.

1:23:12I'M TALKING YOU'RE.

1:23:13JUST TALKING AND TALKING.

1:23:15OVER THE.

1:23:15CHAIR AND THE CHAIR HAS ASKED

1:23:17YOU PLEASE TO STOP.

1:23:19I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD RESPECT

1:23:20THAT.

1:23:21THIS IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TODAY

1:23:22.

1:23:23IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN

1:23:24PERFECTLY LEGITIMATELY BRING

1:23:26FORWARD BUT NOT IN TERMS OF

1:23:27JUST BRINGING.

1:23:28>> IT UP.

1:23:29>> AT.

1:23:29A MEETING.

1:23:30>> WHEN IT WASN'T INTENDED.

1:23:31PEOPLE MAY WANT TO HEAR WHAT WE

1:23:32DISCUSS ABOUT THAT AND THEY

1:23:34WON'T HEAR.

1:23:34>> IT.

1:23:34IF IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA AND

1:23:36THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS.

1:23:37GOING TO.

1:23:38>> BE DISCUSSED.

1:23:38SO THANK YOU.

1:23:39I THINK.

1:23:40>> AT THIS.

1:23:40POINT WE'RE.

1:23:41>> DONE WITH THE AGENDA THAT WE

1:23:42HAVE FOR.

1:23:42>> TODAY AND AGAIN I WOULD

1:23:44ENTERTAIN.

1:23:45>> A MOTION TO.

1:23:45ADJOURN.

1:23:47>> I WANT TO ADJOURN.

1:23:51ALL IN FAVOR?

1:23:58UH, GOODBYE.

1:24:21A