2026-10-05 - Housing Committee

00:05.

00:16THIS.

00:40AIS.

01:02THIS IS.

01:05THIS.

01:11IS.

01:22THIS.

01:34AIS THIS.

01:42IS ME.

02:46A

02:46GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

02:48THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR

02:50THIS MORNING'S HOUSING AND

02:52NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES COMMITTEE

02:54MEETING.

02:55WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA

02:57WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM

02:58.

02:59YET I WANT TO START WITH

03:01INTRODUCTIONS SO I'M GOING TO

03:02START WITH MY COLLEAGUE ONLINE

03:04AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK

03:05INTO THE ROOM AND THEY ARE JUST

03:07ENOUGH PEOPLE WITH YEAH I COULD

03:08ACTUALLY GO AROUND THE ENTIRE

03:09ROOM NOW.

03:11GOOD MORNING.

03:12GOOD MORNING I'M RENEE JOHNSON

03:14AND I'M HONORED TO REPRESENT

03:16DISTRICT FOUR AND I'M A

03:17COMMITTEE MEMBER.

03:18THANK YOU.

03:19THE BEAUTIFUL YOUNG LADY ALL

03:21THE WAY IN THE BACK.

03:23I MEAN PETERSON THE THE

03:25PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

03:25GOOD MORNING.

03:26MORNING.

03:27I'M ROB REINER.

03:29KEITH KELLYA GREATER CHARLOTTE

03:30PARHAM ASSOCIATION.

03:34GAIL WELCOME HOUSING AND

03:35NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

03:36HAROLD THOMPSON HOUSING AND

03:38NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

03:39JANINE SIMMONS HOUSING AND

03:40NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

03:41KIMBERLY OWENS REPRESENTING

03:42DISTRICT SIX.

03:44SHAWN HEATH CITY MANAGER'S

03:45OFFICE.

03:47SHEILA STEWART HOUSING AND

03:48NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

03:50KIRK YOUNG HOUSING,

03:50NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES GOOD.

03:53SOMEBODY WANT TO SLIDE A MY

03:54BACK?

03:59TID FOR LUNCH WAS ONE MIC KEN

04:03SZYMANSKI.

04:04UH I GUESS I'M WITH UH, CRISIS

04:06ASSISTANCE MINISTER.

04:07WHO'S MY COMMUNITY RELATIONS

04:09DEPARTMENT FOR HOUSING.

04:11WE SHOULD THANK YOU.

04:12WONDERFUL.

04:12>> AND I AM THE ONE OF MAYFIELD

04:14I SERVE AS CHAIR OF HOUSING

04:16COMMITTEE AS WELL AS SERVE YOU

04:18AT LARGE.

04:19WE ARE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN

04:21ON OUR POLICY REFERRAL

04:23REGARDING OUR MINIMUM HOUSING

04:24CODE, AND I AM TURNING IT OVER

04:26TO ADOPT TO SORT.

04:29GOOD MORNING.

04:30>>A AND HAPPY MONDAY.

04:32WE'LL GO TO OUR FIRST SLIDE.

04:38NEXT SLIDE AS CHAIR MAYFIELD

04:40MENTIONED WE ARE HERE TO

04:42CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON A

04:43MINIMUM HOUSING CODE REFERRAL

04:45AS IT RELATES TO COOLING.

04:49UM WITHIN OUR PROPERTIES ACROSS

04:50CHARLOTTE.

04:51NEXT SLIDE.

04:53AND IN JUST A REMINDER THIS

04:54FALLS INTO COUNCIL'S PRIORITY

04:56ALIGNMENT AS IT RELATES TO

04:58GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND SAFE

05:00COMMUNITIES.

05:02SO TODAY WITH ME I HAVE KIRK

05:04YOUNG.

05:05HE IS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT

05:07OPERATIONS MANAGER AND BEFORE I

05:09PASS IT ON TO HIM I JUST WANT

05:11TO SHARE AS WE GO THROUGH THE

05:12PRESENTATION WE PRETTY MUCH

05:13HAVE TWO POSSIBLE OPTIONS.

05:15SO I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE

05:16OPTIONS AT A HIGH LEVEL FOR US

05:19AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO

05:21KIRK TO GO INTO MORE DETAILS.

05:24SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT OUR

05:25POSSIBLE OPTIONS THERE IS TO

05:27AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE

05:29AC IN ALL DWELLINGSA.

05:30SOME OF THE PROS THAT WE'VE

05:32TALKED ABOUT UM IN THE PAST FEW

05:34MEETINGS ARE HEALTH AND SAFETY

05:36UM, CREATING A CLEAR AND

05:37ENFORCEABLE COOLING STANDARD

05:38WITH A 48 HOUR REPAIR WHICH IS

05:41CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE DO WITH

05:42HEATING AND THEN COST IMPACTS.

05:45UH, SOME OF THE CONS WE THINK

05:46ABOUT ARE AFFORDABILITY BECAUSE

05:48WE HAVE NO CONTROL IF LANDLORDS

05:50ATTEMPT TO PASS OFF THE

05:51INSTALLATION COSTS TO THEIR

05:54TENANTS UM, IT COULD BE A

05:56UTILITY COST BURDEN AS IT

05:57INCREASED COSTS FOR TENANTS AND

05:59THEN JUST ADDITIONAL RESOURCES

06:01MAY BE NEEDED FROM THE CITY TO

06:03ENFORCE THAT NEW ORDINANCE.

06:06AND THE OTHER OPTION IS TO

06:08BASICALLY CONTINUE TO DO WHAT

06:11WE'RE DOING NOW WITH THE

06:12VARIOUS PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE

06:14AND TO UM, RECEIVE UPDATED

06:18EVALUATION ON THEM FREQUENTLY.

06:20UM SOME OF THE PROS TO THAT

06:21AGAIN, AFFORDABILITY, NO IMPACT

06:23TO CURRENT RENTS OR HOUSING

06:25AFFORDABILITY, UM STANDARDS WE

06:27MAINTAIN OUR EXISTING

06:28COMPLIANCE NO NEW RESOURCESA

06:30REQUIRED FROM THE CITY.

06:32SOME OF THE CONS WE DO THINK

06:33ABOUT AGAIN WHAT WE TALKED

06:35ABOUT IN PAST MEETINGS AS FAR

06:37AS HEALTH AND SAFETY AND

06:39HOUSEHOLDS AT RISK.

06:41IT DOES NOT ESTABLISH A

06:42UNIVERSAL COOLING LANDLORDS AND

06:45HOMEOWNERS THAT ACT IN THE CITY

06:47COOLING SUPPORT PROGRAMS MAY

06:48EXPERIENCE INCREASE UTILITY

06:50COSTS AND THEN POTENTIALLY

06:52DEFERS AN ORDINANCE UPDATE TO A

06:53FUTURE COUNCIL TO ADDRESS.

06:55SO AGAIN THE FIRST OPTION WOULD

06:57BE TO MAKE CHANGES.

06:59THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO

07:01CONTINUE WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW

07:02WHICH WOULD WHICH WOULD UM

07:05BASICALLY CLOSE OUT THE

07:06REFERRAL THAT IS STILL A.

07:08>> BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD I

07:09WOULD.

07:09LOVE TO GIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR MY

07:11COLLEAGUE TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF

07:12AS WELL AS OUR ATTORNEY.

07:14THANK YOU CHAIR MAYFIELD JD MY

07:16SWEATER AREAS DISTRICT FIVE

07:18CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND

07:19COMMITTEE MEMBER.

07:24OH HONEST LOAN AND CITY

07:25ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

07:26THANK YOU FOR.

07:28THANK YOU.

07:29>> SO I'M GOING TO TURN ITA OVER

07:30TO UH, KIRK YOUNG CODE

07:33ENFORCEMENT OPERATIONS.

07:33>> MANAGER NEXT.

07:37THANK YOU, DOCTOR STEWART.

07:38UH THANK YOU COMMITTEE.

07:39UM, I WILL NOTE, UH, BEFORE.

07:40>> WE GET TO THIS.

07:41INFORMATION THAT UH, WINDOW

07:42UNIT DISTRIBUTION, UH.

07:44AN OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB

07:45PROGRAMS AND LANDLORD HVAC

07:46PILOT PROGRAMS WOULD STILL BE

07:48AVAILABLE REGARDLESS IN EITHER

07:49DIRECTION THAT WE GO.

07:51UM.

07:52>> SO SOME ADDITIONAL

07:53INFORMATION UH, ESPECIALLY BACK

07:55IN SEPTEMBER.

07:55>> THERE WERE A LOT OF

07:56QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED UM.

07:57TO US.

07:58>> AND SO WE PROVIDED.

07:59UH, A MEMO A.

08:00DOCUMENTATION FOR YOU ALL.

08:01UM, I THINK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE

08:03UH, A DO OVER.

08:04,UH, CONCERNS ABOUT DATA

08:06LIMITATIONS.

08:06UH, WE TRY TO ANSWER THOSE

08:07QUESTIONS DETERMINING.

08:08WHO'S IN VIOLATION.

08:09UH, THE WEEKEND AC ISSUES AND

08:12CONCERNS.

08:13UM, THE CITY'S AUTHORITY TO, UH

08:15,CONTROL THESE COSTS UH,

08:17SUPPORT FOR HOMEOWNERS.

08:18TENANTS AND LANDLORDS.

08:20UH, CONTRACTOR COSTS.

08:21>> AND ESTIMATES.

08:22UH, AND THEN ALSO THE.

08:23RESEARCH THAT WE FOUND.

08:24>> FROM OTHER.

08:24CITIES THAT WE PROVIDED NEXT

08:27SLIDE.

08:29SO THESE ARE THE TWOA UM

08:30SECTIONS UH THAT WE WOULD LOOK

08:32TO AMEND.

08:32UM AND SO.

08:33>> THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE 1145.

08:35E UH, WHICH.

08:36WOULD ADD AN OPERABLE.

08:37COOLING EQUIPMENT AS AN

08:38IMMEDIATE DANGEROUS CONDITION

08:40DURING THE MONTH OF MAY THROUGH

08:42SEPTEMBER.

08:42UH, THE.

08:43>> SECOND EDITION WOULD BE THAT

08:44FOR SECTION 11.

08:46UH 81.

08:47R WHICH WOULD REQUIRE EVERY

08:49RESIDENTIAL DWELLING TO PROVIDE

08:49.

08:50COOLING EQUIPMENT THAT IS UH,

08:52CAPABLE OF MAINTAINING

08:53TEMPERATURES AT A MAXIMUM 80°F

08:55AND AT LEAST TWO HABITABLE

08:57ROOMS DURING.

08:58MAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

09:00NEXT SLIDE.

09:03SO OVERALL FOR THE.

09:04REVISION, UH, YOU'D HAVE THE

09:06MAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER UH

09:07DESIGNATION.

09:08UH, YOU WOULD HAVE THE

09:09IMMEDIATELY DANGEROUS VIOLATION

09:10FOR A 48.

09:11>> HOUR REPAIR WINDOW.

09:12SOME EXCEPTIONS.

09:13COULD BE THAT IF THERE'S A

09:14SCHEDULE.

09:14REPAIR ALREADY IN THE WORKS OR

09:16WORK ORDER THAT WAS ALREADY

09:17THERE.

09:17IF YOU HAD A FAILURE TO REPAIR

09:19WITHIN.

09:19>> THE 48.

09:20>> HOURS, UH, WE HAD TO

09:21EVALUATE AN IMMEDIATE REPAIR OR

09:23REPLACEMENT.

09:23AND THIS IS PART OF OUR CITY

09:25HOUSING SERVICES.

09:25WE COULD.

09:26REFER A TENANT TO RELOCATION.

09:28SERVICES IF A REPAIR.

09:29>> OR REPLACEMENT IS NOT ANA

09:30OPTION.

09:31AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO PROCEED

09:32WITH STANDARD ENFORCEMENT.

09:33PROCESS INCLUDING THE ISSUANCE

09:35OF OUR.

09:35>> CIVIL PENALTIES.

09:36NOTE OBVIOUSLY ADDITIONAL

09:38RESOURCES WILL BE NECESSARY TO

09:39IMPLEMENT THIS UH.

09:40RESPONSIVE ENFORCEMENT TIME.

09:42NEXT SLIDE.

09:45SO OVERALL SOME.

09:46>> UH.

09:46SUPPORTS THAT WILL STILL

09:47CONTINUE UH FOR THE RESIDENTS

09:48FOR WINDOW UNITS UM WE WILL

09:50STILL CONTINUE TO BUY WINDOW

09:51UNITS TO HOUSEHOLDS LACKING.

09:53AC FROM.

09:54MAY TO SEPTEMBER.

09:55THIS ENABLES OUR STAFF.

09:57>> TO RESPOND QUICKLY.

09:58TO RESIDENT.

09:58RESIDENTS NEEDS.

10:00EXCUSE ME.

10:01UH, ONE WINDOW UNIT PER

10:02HOUSEHOLD MAY BE INCREASED TO

10:03MEET THE NEEDS OF A HOUSEHOLD.

10:05OR A.

10:05DWELLING AND.

10:06>> THEIR DESIGN AND.

10:06SIZE STAFF WILL EXPLORE.

10:08PARTNERSHIPS UH, OPPORTUNITIES

10:10UH, SUCH.

10:10AS MECKLENBURG COUNTY AND DUKE

10:11.

10:12ENERGY.

10:13>> SO THE HEBREW REHAB PROGRAMS

10:14LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER UH,

10:16THIS.

10:16ENABLES OWNER.

10:17OCCUPIED HOUSEHOLDS THAT.

10:18CAN APPLY FOR THE CITY REHAB.

10:20PROGRAMS AND THEN ON OUR SMALL.

10:23LANDLORDS.

10:23>> UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE.

10:24UH, KIND OF COMBINE, BUT WE'RE

10:26GOING TO HAVE A MULTIFAMILY AND

10:27SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PROPERTIES

10:28.

10:28FROM 1 TOA 49 UNITS, UH, WITHIN

10:31THE CITY LIMITS.

10:33UM, THIS WOULD HELP WITH THE

10:35ENERGY EFFICIENCY AC IN UNITS,

10:37UH, THAT NEVER PREVIOUSLY HAD

10:38IT.

10:39IT WOULD.

10:39HAVE THE REIMBURSES THE 75%.

10:42ELIGIBLE INSTALLATION COSTS UP

10:44TO $10,000.

10:45PER UNIT.

10:46AND A MAXIMUM OF TEN UNITS OR

10:49$100,000.

10:49PER OWNER OR AFFILIATE.

10:52THERE'S A 60% AMI.

10:53AFFORDABILITY, PROPERTY.

10:54STANDARDS AND HVAC SYSTEMS THAT

10:56ARE MAINTAINED FOR THREE YEARS

10:57.

10:58UH LANDLORDS THAT PARTICIPATE

10:58IN THIS PROGRAM WOULD STILL

11:00AGREE TO AFFORDABILITY

11:01REQUIREMENTS AND THEN PASSCODE

11:04VIOLATIONS.

11:04HISTORY IS NOT GOING TO

11:05PROHIBIT PROPERTIES FROM.

11:06BEING CONSIDERED.

11:08UH THE FINAL NOTE DOWN HERE

11:09WOULD BE.

11:10>> THE EXISTING.

11:10SUPPORTS WILL BE AVAILABLE

11:11REGARDLESS.

11:12>> OF ANY.

11:12ORDINANCE CHANGES.

11:13.

11:13>> STAFF WILL EVALUATE

11:14EFFECTIVENESS AND ADJUST

11:15PROGRAMS BASED ON THE LEARNING

11:17THAT WE'VE PROVIDED THROUGH

11:18PEER AND PROVIDE.

11:20PERIODIC UPDATES TO COUNCIL.

11:22NEXT SLIDE.

11:25>> AND I'LL HAND IT BACK OVER

11:26TO.

11:26DOCTOR AND THEN GAIL YOU CAN GO

11:27TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

11:28SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A

11:29FEW THINGSA UM FROM KIRK

11:32PRESENTATION.

11:33SO THE FIRST THING IS I WANT

11:34YOU TO KNOW UM.

11:38WE HEARD WHAT YOU SAID AND WE

11:40LOOKED AT WHAT IMMINENTLY

11:42DANGER LOOKS LIKE SO WE CHANGED

11:44IT FROM 72 HOURS TO 48 HOURS.

11:46SO IT LINES UP WITH WHAT IS

11:47CONSIDERED IMMINENTLY

11:49DANGEROUS.

11:49UM, WE ALSO HEARD YOU AND YOU

11:51TALKED ABOUT ONE ROOM SO WE

11:53CHANGED IT TO TWO ROOMS.

11:54TWO HABITABLE ROOMS.

11:56UM, WE ALSO HEARD YOU WHEN WE

11:58WERE TALKING ABOUT 5 TO 49

12:00UNITS.

12:00SO WARREN WAS ABLE TO GO BACK

12:03AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO

12:06THE UM PROGRAM AND WE'RE DOING

12:08FROM 1 TO 49 AND ALSO UH,

12:12RECOMMENDING THAT.

12:13>> WE.

12:13WILL NOW BE ABLE TO SUPPORT.

12:14SINGLE FAMILY RENTALS BECAUSE

12:16INITIALLY IT WAS JUST

12:17MULTIFAMILY.

12:21SO AT THIS POINT, UM, AGAIN

12:24NEXT STEPS AND THERE ARE TWO

12:26OPTIONS OUT HERE I'M AT A HIGH

12:29LEVEL AGAINA, UM, IF YOU CHOOSE

12:32TO PUSH THIS TO FULL COUNCIL

12:34THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO AMEND

12:35THE MINIMUM HOUSING CODE TO

12:37REQUIRE COOLING EQUIPMENT AND

12:38ALL DWELLINGS CAPABLE OF

12:40MAINTAINING A MAXIMUM OF 80°F

12:43AND TWO HABITABLE ROOMS.

12:45THAT'S FROM MAY TO SEPTEMBER.

12:47WE DID MENTION THAT ADDITIONAL

12:49RESOURCES WOULD BE NEEDED.

12:50HOWEVER WE ARE, UM, ABLE TO

12:55ATTEMPT TO ABSORB THE WORK

12:56AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S JUST MAY

12:58THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

12:59>> AND THEN JUST CONTINUE.

13:00TO WORK WITH OUR STAFF AS WE

13:01CONTINUE.

13:02TO DEVELOP THEIR SKILLS AND ALL

13:04OF THOSE GOOD THINGS.

13:05AND THEN THE SECOND UM OPTION

13:07AGAIN WAS TO TAKE NO ACTION.

13:09CONTINUE WHAT UH, THE PROGRAMS

13:11THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING

13:13AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY BUT

13:14THAT WOULD UH, CLOSE THE

13:16REFERRAL.

13:17WE THANK.

13:17YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AS WE

13:20GET STARTED BECAUSE I KNOW HE.

13:22DOES NOT REALLY.

13:23>> KNOW HOW TO TAKE TIME OFF.

13:24I WANT TO SEND A BIG.

13:26CONGRATULATIONS TO WARREN

13:27WOOTEN WHO IS NOT WITH US

13:28BECAUSE HE IS, UH, GETTINGA

13:30READY TO PROBABLY WALK HIS BABY

13:32GIRL DOWN THE AISLE AND PASS A.

13:34HAND OFF.

13:37SO HOPEFULLY YOU'RE GOING TO BE

13:38ABLE TO STAY STRONG THROUGH

13:39THAT.

13:39WARREN UH, BECAUSE I KNOW

13:41YOU'RE PROBABLY STILL SEEING

13:42THAT 3 OR 4 YEAR OLD RUNNING UP

13:44TO YOU AND YOU'RE GETTING READY

13:45TO HAND.

13:45HER OFF, BUT I WANT TO OPEN IT

13:47UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH

13:49COMMITTEE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER

13:50JOHNSON HAVE A HAND UP.

13:52OKAY.

13:52COMMITTEE MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER

13:54OWENS.

13:55I DO DO WE WANT TO PUT A MOTION

13:57ON THE TABLE OR ANYTHING FASTER

13:58?

14:00I WOULD LOVE TO ENTERTAIN A

14:02MOTION.

14:02I'D LIKE.

14:03TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND THIS TO

14:04FULL.

14:04COUNCIL.

14:05>> SECOND THIS HAS BEEN

14:07PROPERLY MOTION AND SECOND ALL

14:09IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

14:10AYE AYE.

14:17UH MY COLLEAGUE CAN WE ARE WE

14:20GOING TO DISCUSS FOR YES YES

14:21RIGHT NOW OKAY OKAY SO THE

14:25MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW

14:27IS TO RECOMMEND MOVING TO FULL

14:29COUNCIL.

14:30ACAN WE PULL COUNCILMEMBER

14:32JOHNSON'S PICTURE UP SO THAT WE

14:34CAN YEAH SURE.

14:35SO I WILL START SORRY I'LL MAKE

14:36THE MOTION UM VERY CONFIDENT

14:38THAT THIS IS A GOOD DIRECTION

14:40FOR US TO GO.

14:41I FEEL LIKE THE REALITIES OF OF

14:43OUR CLIMATE, THE REALITIES OF

14:44THE SUMMERS THAT WE'VE

14:45EXPERIENCED, THE REALITIES OF

14:47WHAT WE'RE SEEING OUT OF OTHER

14:48COUNTRIES THAT HAVE HAD

14:49FATALITIES DURING THEIR

14:50SUMMERS.

14:51I DON'T NEED US TO WAIT TO HAVE

14:52FATALITIES HERE DURING OUR

14:54SUMMERS AMONG SOME OF OUR MOST

14:56VULNERABLE RESIDENTS BEFORE WE

14:57TAKE ACTION.

14:57AND SO I'M VERY PLEASED I'M

14:59PLEASED TO SEE THE MOVEMENT

15:01THAT'S BEEN MADE WITH RESPECT

15:02TO THE TIMING.

15:03I WISH THAT IT WERE ALL

15:04HABITABLE AREAS.

15:05I I'M COMFORTABLE THOUGH THAT

15:07WE ARE TAKING AN ITERATIVE

15:08APPROACH PERHAPS TO THE TO THE

15:10TO ROOMS AND THAT'S BETTER THAN

15:11ONE.

15:12UM I JUST I REALLY DO THINK

15:14THAT PART OF WHAT OUR

15:17RESPONSIBILITY AS AS A

15:18GOVERNING BODY IS TO BE

15:21RESPONSIVE AND ALSO TO BE

15:24FORWARD THINKING AROUND THE

15:25RESILIENCY OF OUR SYSTEMS AND I

15:28DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE

15:30AA COOLER SUMMER IN OUR

15:32LIFETIMES.

15:32AND SO TO TAKE ACTION NOW FEELS

15:35,UM, NECESSARY.

15:37I APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE

15:38GOING TO BE COSTS ATTENDANT TO

15:39THIS.

15:39I APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S GOING

15:40TO BE THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS TO

15:42BE PASSED ON TO TO RESIDENTS.

15:43I THINK THAT THOSE ARE ALL

15:45THINGS THAT WE TAKE INTO

15:45ACCOUNT.

15:46I DON'T TAKE THEM LIGHTLY.

15:47THAT SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, I

15:50THINK THAT THE HEALTH RISKS THE

15:52THE UM INABILITY TO SLEEP AT

15:55NIGHT, THE INABILITY TO TO

15:56REALLY FULLY FUNCTION WITHIN

15:59YOUR YOUR JOBS OR YOUR FAMILIES

16:00WHEN YOU.

16:01WHEN YOU.

16:02>> REALLY CANNOT GET THAT

16:03RESTORATIVE REST AT NIGHT

16:04BECAUSE OF THE HEAT IS

16:05SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY

16:07KEENLY FOCUSED ON.

16:08SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS

16:10PROGRESS AND UM I JUST I LOOK

16:11FORWARD TO SUPPORTING IT IN

16:12FULL COUNCIL.

16:13THANK YOU.

16:14THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER OWENS.

16:15I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADD TO

16:16THAT THAT WE THERE ARE STUDIES

16:19OUT THERE THAT IDENTIFY NOT

16:22BEING ABLE TO SLEEP THAT IMPACT

16:26UH THE HEAT STROKES OR OTHER

16:29HEALTH RELATEDA ISSUES.

16:31SO I UM PROUD OF WHAT STAFF HAS

16:35DONE WITH HEARING FROM

16:36COMMUNITY FROM COMMUNITY AS

16:38WELL AS COUNCIL THE CONCERNS

16:39AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT

16:41THAT IN OUR MORE DETAILED LIST

16:43WE ACTUALLY BREAK DOWN HOW

16:45OTHER CITIES HANDLE THE AC

16:48MANDATES AND THEIR ORDINANCES.

16:49SO LOOKING AT PHOENIX AND

16:52DALLAS, NEW ORLEANS, LAS VEGAS

16:53,HOUSTON, OTHER AREAS THAT ARE

16:55EXTREMELY WARM AND HOW THEY'VE

16:57BEEN ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

16:58BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE

17:00ARE THE LEADER ON A LOT OF

17:02THINGS.

17:02SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE

17:03WE'RE WE'RE CATCHING UP A

17:04LITTLE BIT SAYS SOME OF THESE

17:07GO BACK TO THE EARLY 2000.

17:10COUNCILMEMBER SWEATER IDEAS.

17:12THANK YOU CHAIR.

17:13MAYFIELD UM THANK YOU DOCTOR

17:15STEWART YOUR TEAM EVERYBODY

17:17HERE FOR PRESENTING THIS IS.

17:19UM THIS IS GREAT.

17:21I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR CODE

17:22ENFORCEMENT.

17:23UM, WHAT WHAT DOES THE CAPACITY

17:24CURRENTLY LOOK LIKE AND WHAT

17:26ARE Y'ALL'S HOURS OF OPERATION

17:28UM, IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU GUYSA

17:30ARE OPERATING.

17:32?

17:32>> UM.

17:32APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.

17:33THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

17:34UM, SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW UM,

17:36OUR ALL OF OUR STAFF UH THEIR

17:38INSPECTORS ARE ALL NEW.

17:39SINCE INSPECTORS FIRST.

17:40UM.

17:41>> WE DO WORK A NORMAL UH, KIND

17:42OF HOURS IN.

17:43>> THE.

17:448 TO 5 KIND OF OUR TIME FRAME.

17:46BUT, UH, IF SPECIAL PROJECTS DO

17:47COME UP, UH, THERE ARE TIMES

17:49WHERE WE MAY, UH, GO EXTENDED

17:50HOURS IF WE NEED TO.

17:52UM, AND.

17:53>> THEN WITH THOSE INSPECTORS

17:54THEY ALSO ARE ARE SPLIT BETWEEN

17:55TWO OTHER TRADES WHICH IS THE

17:57HOUSING AND THEN THE.

17:58ZONING.

17:59AND DO YOU GUYS UH, OPERATE

18:01DURING THE WEEKENDS?

18:02WE CAN IF NEEDED.

18:05BUT TYPICALLY TYPICALLY NOT.

18:08GOT IT.

18:08>> THANK YOU SO MUCH I ONLY

18:10BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK

18:12IT IS UM, WOULD IT BE WISE OF

18:14US TO CONSIDER THIS FOR NEXT

18:16YEAR'S BUDGET ON HOW DO WE

18:17PROVIDE FURTHER RESOURCES TO

18:19CODE ENFORCEMENT?

18:20UM, AS THE MEMO UM READS HERE,

18:23RIGHT.

18:23CHARLOTTE HAS GROWN

18:24SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE 2018 BUT

18:26CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFFING HAS

18:27NOT GROWN PROPORTIONATELY.

18:29AND SO AS WE DISCUSSEDA THIS

18:30MANDATE, I THINK IT WOULD BE

18:32WISE OF US TO DISCUSS HOW DO WE

18:34BETTER SUPPORT OUR CODE

18:35ENFORCEMENT?

18:36UM, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE A LOT

18:37OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE TEXTED

18:39ME UH.

18:40THROUGHOUT THE.

18:40LAST SEVERAL MONTHS ABOUT DOES

18:42CODE ENFORCEMENT OPERATE DURING

18:43THE WEEKENDS?

18:44OTHER THAN THAT I

18:46WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS UM

18:48THIS ORDINANCE UH, I THINK THIS

18:51IS THE RIGHT.

18:51THING TO DO.

18:52UM.

18:53>> IT IS HELPING OUR RESIDENTS

18:54.

18:54I'M LOOKING AT THIS MAP RIGHT

18:56HERE AND YOU ALL KNOW I LOVE

18:57DATA AND MAPS.

18:58UM, AND YOU SEE DISTRICT FIVE,

19:01DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO,

19:02DISTRICT THREE, UH, SEVERELY

19:05IMPACTED BY UM HOUSEHOLDS WITH

19:07NO.

19:08AC PARTICULARLY.

19:09DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTING

19:11BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOODS

19:12AND WHAT WE IN CHARLOTTE CALLED

19:14ACROSS CRESCENT AREA.

19:15UM AND SO THIS JUST SEEMS.

19:17TO FEEL LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO

19:18DO.

19:18IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT IS THE

19:20RIGHT THING TO DO AND.

19:21>> THIS IS JUST ANOTHER.

19:23EXTENSION OF HOW DO WE EXPAND

19:26TENANT RIGHTS BUT WITHOUT BEING

19:29PREEMPTIVE AGAINST STATE LAW.

19:30RIGHT.A

19:30UH WITHOUT UH TRIGGERING UH

19:33PREEMPTION UH, IN RALEIGH AND

19:34SO I THINK THIS.

19:36IS VERY MUCH NEEDED I FULLY.

19:38SUPPORT THIS AS UM MY COLLEAGUE

19:40COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN SAYS UH, WE

19:42ARE JUST GETTING HOTTER AND

19:43HOTTER AND HOTTER BY THE YEAR

19:45AND THAT'S REALLY IMPACTING

19:47INDIVIDUALS.

19:48>> AND THERE IS.

19:49SUCH THING THE RESEARCH THE

19:51DATA SUPPORTS IT WHERE CLIMATE

19:52CHANGE DISPROPORTIONATELY

19:54IMPACTS.

19:54COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

19:56AND I THINK THIS AND WORKING

19:57CLASS COMMUNITIES I THINK THIS

19:59IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND I

20:00LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING IT.

20:02THANK YOU.

20:02>> COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

20:06THANK YOU.

20:06GOOD MORNING.

20:07I JUST.

20:07HAVE A.

20:08>> FEW QUESTIONS.

20:09ONE OF.

20:09THE SLIDES.

20:11UM, REFERENCED THE CITY'S.

20:13POOLING UNIT OR CAN YOU GO BACK

20:15TO THE SLIDE?

20:16IT REFERENCED THE CITY'S

20:17COOLING UNIT PROGRAM OR.

20:29THREE OF.

20:31AOH SEVEN.

20:33THAT WORKS OUT TO BE UP SEVEN.

20:45IS IT THIS ONE.

20:47IS IT TO SLOT THIS UP NOW THAT

20:49YOU'RE.

20:49REFERRING TO.

20:49>> TO.

20:50HOLD IT UP ON FACEBOOK BECAUSE

20:51IT'S A LOT LARGER.

20:52SO LET ME SAY UM.

20:56IT'S THAT WOULD IT SAY THE

20:58BOTTOM ON THE RIGHT IT WAS THE

21:00IT WAS THE PROGRAMS.

21:03REHAB PROGRAM.

21:06MAYBE.

21:06>> WHAT DOES THAT SAY.

21:07SAYS ELIGIBLE OWNER OCCUPIED

21:09HOUSEHOLDS MAY APPLY FOR THE

21:10CITY'S REHAB PROGRAMS INCLUDING

21:12EMERGENCY REPAIR TO ADDRESS

21:14COOLING EQUIPMENT NEEDS.

21:16AND THAT WAS 60% AM I AND BELOW

21:18IS THAT WHAT I HEARD?

21:20THE 60% IS UNDER THE HVAC PILOT

21:23PROGRAM THAT'S ON THE OTHER

21:24SIDE.

21:24IT SAYS 60% AM I AFFORDABILITY

21:26PROPERTY STANDARDS AND HVAC

21:28SYSTEMS MAINTAINED FOR THREE

21:29YEARS.

21:29IT'S PART OF THEA COMMITMENT

21:30THAT IS MADE IF ONE GOES INTO

21:33THE HVAC PILOT PROGRAM.

21:35DO WE HAVE THE DATA OF HOW MANY

21:39OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES UM DON'T

21:42HAVE AIR CONDITIONING?

21:44HAVE WE COLLECTED THAT OR

21:46SOUGHT TO COLLECT THAT

21:47INFORMATION ANY TIME ANY KIND

21:49OF WAY?

21:49SO WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT

21:51FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS.

21:52THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS IS YOU

21:54NEED TO SELF-REPORT.

21:55THERE'S NO WAY FOR STAFF TO

21:59IDENTIFY WHAT THE NUMBER OF

22:00HOMES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY,

22:03WHICH ONES MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE

22:06AN ACTIVE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT

22:07.

22:08THERE HAS BEEN A TIME AS THAT.

22:10PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I GET ANY

22:11OF THIS INACCURATELY WHERE WE

22:14HAVE UTILIZED DRONES SO JOHN

22:16CAN GO OVER AND IT MAY SEE A

22:18UNIT ON THAT'S ESTABLISHED ON

22:22THAT HOME, BUT THAT DOESN'T

22:23MEAN THAT IT'S A WORKING UNIT.

22:25SO IT'S REALLY SELF-REPORTED

22:27THAT HAS GOTTEN US TO THIS

22:29POINT ANDA ALSO TRACKING THE

22:31NUMBER OF WINDOW UNITS THAT WE

22:33HAVE SUPPLIED IN PARTNERSHIP

22:34WITH MECKLENBURG COUNTY.

22:36THAT'S WHAT HELPED US GET TO

22:39REALIZING A NUMBER OF THE OLDER

22:41HOMES THAT WE STILL HAVE IN THE

22:43COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE

22:45ACTIVE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS.

22:47.

22:48>> AND WHAT'S THAT NUMBER?

22:48HOW MANY HOW MANY WINDOW UNITS

22:50HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED?

22:52SO WE'VE DISTRIBUTED ABOUT 200

22:54.

22:54AND UM AS STATED IN PREVIOUS

22:56MEETINGS THE GOAL IS TO

22:57CONTINUE TO DO 100 PER YEAR.

23:00AND IF WE DETERMINED THAT WE

23:01NEED TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER,

23:02UH, WE COMMIT TO DOING THAT.

23:06SO DO.

23:06>> YOU HAVE AN IDEA A GUESS OF

23:09HOW MANY OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES

23:11DON'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING?

23:13I DON'T AND WE HAVE EVEN WORKED

23:16WITH OUR IT WITH THE IT TEAM TO

23:18ASK THEM TO HELP US.

23:19BUT AS CHAIR MAYFIELD SAID WE

23:21WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING UM

23:23WHO MAY HAVE A WINDOW UNIT WHO

23:25MAY HAVE A MINI SPLIT AT ONE

23:27POINT WE COULD SEE HOW MANY

23:29PERMITS MAY HAVE BEENA PULLED

23:30FOR AN H VAC BUT WE HAVE NO WE

23:33HAVE NO IDEA.

23:35WE HAVE NO WAY TO COLLECT THAT

23:36DATA.

23:37SELF-REPORTING WOULD BE THE

23:38ONLY WAY.

23:38OKAY, SO I TALKED TO UM COUNCIL

23:42MEMBER OWEN WHO I, I I SENT AN

23:45EMAIL WE HEARD FROM UM, ONE OF

23:47OUR RESIDENTS AND THIS IS AND I

23:48THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS

23:50BEFORE, COUNCIL MEMBER MAYFIELD

23:52ABOUT PUTTING INFORMATION INTO

23:53WATER BILLS AND THE RESIDENT

23:56REACHED OUT AND SAID, HEY, WE

23:57DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS DATA

23:58CENTER SURVEY.

23:59CAN CAN WE CAN YOU ALL SEND

24:01INFORMATION OUT IN WATER IN THE

24:04WATER BILL I THINK THIS WOULD

24:05BE A GREAT.

24:08PROJECT TO SEND THE INFORMATION

24:10OUT AND WATER BILLS I WOULD

24:12GUESS THAT MANY FOLKS WHO MIGHT

24:15NOT HAVE AIR CONDITION MAY NOT

24:17BE ACCESSING THE WEB OR

24:18WATCHING THESE MEETINGS ON

24:19YOUTUBE AND FACEBOOK.

24:21SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A

24:22GREAT.

24:24PROJECT FOR COMMUNICATION TO

24:26SEND IN WATER BILLS.

24:28I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST OF

24:29THAT BUT WE NEED TO WEA NEED TO

24:30REACH OUT TO OUR MOST

24:32VULNERABLE RESIDENTS.

24:33I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A CODE

24:37VIOLATION OR REQUIRING SOMEONE

24:39TO UPGRADE THEIR EIGHT VAC

24:41SYSTEM OR HAVE AIR WHO CAN'T

24:44AFFORD IT.

24:44YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT IT BEING

24:46UNCOMFORTABLE YOU KNOW,

24:48SLEEPING WHILE IT'S HOT.

24:49WELL IT'S YOU KNOW IF IF IF UH,

24:53YOU KNOW, A PERSON IS IF THEY

24:55GET UM IF THEY LOSE THEIR HOME

24:57OR IT'S IT'S REALLY

24:58UNCOMFORTABLE SLEEPING IN YOUR

24:59CAR OR SLEEPING OUTSIDE SO I'M

25:01JUST I'M CONCERNED WITH THE

25:03COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE

25:05PUSHED DOWN TO THE THE THE THE

25:08RESIDENT UM WHO OWN THEIR HOME

25:10NOW LANDLORDS I KNOW THAT IT

25:12MAY INCREASE THE RENT AND

25:14THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN ALSO

25:17BUT MOSTLY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT

25:19THE INDIVIDUAL WHO DOESN'T HAVE

25:20AIR.

25:21WE HAVE TO GET THIS INFORMATION

25:22OUT TO THEM, ESPECIALLY IF

25:24WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO REPAIR

25:25IT WITHIN 48 HOURS.

25:28IF THERE'S A CODE VIOLATION FORA

25:30SOMETHING IN THE YARD OR SOME

25:32OTHER DISREPAIR OF THE HOME AND

25:34THEY'RE CITED FOR THIS, THEN WE

25:38WANT TO DO ALL WE CAN TO ENSURE

25:39THAT THEY RECEIVE THAT

25:41INFORMATION.

25:42THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT

25:45EXCEPTIONS IF OR EXCUSE ME UH,

25:47THERE WAS ALSO SOME INFORMATION

25:49ABOUT EXCEPTIONS IF THERE'S A

25:51WORK ORDER OR UM A REPAIR IN

25:55PROGRESS.

25:55CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME

25:56INFORMATION ON THAT PLEASE?

25:57DOCTOR STEWART.

25:59I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO

26:01THE PERSON WHO DEALS WITH CODE

26:02ENFORCEMENT EVERY DAY.

26:04OKAY.

26:05>> THANK YOU, DOCTOR STEWART.

26:06UH, YEAH.

26:07>> SO THAT WAS JUST IF WE GET

26:08TO A CASE, WE GET A CASE THAT

26:10WE GO OUT TO AN INSPECTOR GOES

26:11OUT TO UH AND SAY WE.

26:13>> GET THERE AND THEY'RE

26:13ACTUALLY ACTIVELY ACTIVELY.

26:14WORKING ON THAT UNIT AT THAT

26:16TIME WE WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHAT

26:18THAT SITUATION IS, UH.

26:20WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT

26:21OWNER IN THAT AC UNIT.

26:22>> AT THAT TIME?

26:27AND CAN'T I'M SORRY THAT'S NOT

26:29THAT'S NOT CLEARA.

26:31>> NOW.

26:32SO OH.

26:33>> DO.

26:33YOU WANT ME TO YES PLEASE.

26:35GOOD MORNING, MISS JOHNSON.

26:36JUST TO MAKE.

26:37>> IT CLEAR THAT.

26:38BECAUSE YOU CAN'T.

26:41CODIFY A ONE SIZE FITS ALL,

26:44IT'S A CASE BY CASE BASIS THAT

26:46CAN BE DETERMINED BY THE CODE

26:47INSPECTOR WHEN THEY GO OUT.

26:48UM, IT MIGHT BE A SITUATION

26:50WHERE REPAIR IS IN PROCESS, BUT

26:52IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER

26:54THAN IS SAFE FOR THE RESIDENT.

26:55THEN THE OPTIONS MIGHT BE THAT

26:58WE COULD PROVIDE TEMPORARY

26:59COOLING EQUIPMENT DURING THE

27:01REPAIR PERIOD.

27:02IT'S IT'S JUST A SITUATION

27:04WHERE YOU NEED CODE TO HAVE A

27:06LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO

27:08ADDRESS THE VIOLATION WITH THE

27:11SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS IN.

27:12MIND AS THEY'RE DOING IT.

27:15DOES THAT HELP THOUGH?

27:17SO A BUILDING LIKE UH UH IN

27:20LIVING AND BUILDING THAT HAS,

27:22YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED UNITS IN IT

27:25OR NOT EVEN JUST IN LIVING IN

27:27ANY HIGH RISE BUILDING IF THERE

27:29WERE UMA A PROBLEM IN THE AND I

27:32BELIEVE WITH TARIFFS AND AND

27:35EQUIPMENT IT'S THERE'S A DELAY

27:37IN GETTING PARTS WE WE TALKED

27:39ABOUT THAT IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS

27:40SO IF THERE'S A REPAIR IN

27:42PROGRESS I THINK WE NEED TO BE

27:44MORE CLEAR OR DEFINITE.

27:48UM IF IF THERE IS A WORK ORDER

27:50THAT THE UM LANDLORD OR WHAT

27:53THE STEPS ARE.

27:55SO I, I MAKE I.

27:57LOOK AT THIS SIMILAR TO A

27:59HEATING VIOLATION WHICH IS ALSO

28:01PART OF THIS EMERGENCY REPAIR

28:0448 HOUR WINDOW.

28:06UM HOPEFULLY THAT SITUATION

28:07DOESN'T COME UP VERY OFTEN BUT

28:08I THINK THAT WOULD BE AND CITY

28:11MANAGER'S OFFICE I WOULD ASK

28:12YOU TO WEIGH IN AS WELL.

28:13THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE SORT

28:15OF EXCEPTIONAL SITUATIONS WHERE

28:17WE WOULD.

28:18KIND OF NEED TO MOBILIZE IN A

28:20DIFFERENT WAY THAN JUST WHAT'S

28:23CODIFIED IN THE MINIMUM HOUSING

28:24CODE.

28:25OKAY.

28:27>> OKAY.

28:29>> ALL RIGHT.

28:30ATHANK YOU.

28:30I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR THAT I

28:31THINK IT WAS UNDER THE PROS AND

28:32CONS.

28:33UM ONE OF THE CITY RESOURCES.

28:36SO I'LL LOOK FOR THAT AND IF I

28:37FIND IT UM UH UM ASK THE

28:40QUESTION LATER.

28:41THANK YOU.

28:41THANK YOU.

28:42COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON.

28:43SO ALSO STAFF PRESENT IT, UH,

28:45SENT THE ATTACHMENT PRIOR TO

28:48TODAY'S MEETING.

28:49THAT ACTUALLY.

28:52DETAILS A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS

28:54THAT YOU'VE ASKED.

28:55ONE.

28:56>> THEY DID IDENTIFY THAT THE

28:57US CENSUS BUREAU PREDICTS THAT

28:59THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 3100

29:01HOUSEHOLDS IN THE CITY AS

29:03HAVING NO AIR CONDITIONER.

29:04THE CHALLENGE.

29:05WITH THAT IS IT DOES NOT

29:06DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE

29:08DWELLING TYPE OR THE TENANCY.

29:12SO THAT NUMBER IS NOT TO BE

29:14CONSIDERED A DEFINITIVE MEASURE

29:17OF ACCESS.

29:18THE MAPPING THE DATA BY THE

29:19CENSUS TRACK DOES HELP US

29:21IDENTIFY WHERE WHERE THE AC

29:22MANDATE COULD BE MOST

29:25BENEFICIAL BUT AGAIN THAT IN

29:26ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS UH

29:29TEXT AND WHAT WAS SENTA TO US I

29:30BELIEVE LAST THURSDAY.

29:32ALSO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

29:35NOT ONLY ALL OF THE COMMITTEE

29:38MEMBERS BUT COMMUNITY AS WELL

29:40UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE

29:41BETWEEN YOU BEING A PRIVATE

29:43LAND OWNER OWNER OCCUPIED WHICH

29:46WE CLARIFIED AS WELL AS BEING A

29:49LANDLORD AS A.

29:52INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER IF I

29:54CHOOSE.

29:54>> NOT TO RUN MY.

29:55AC, I AM NOT IN FEAR OF CODE

29:58ENFORCEMENT KNOCKING ON MY DOOR

29:59IF I AM A LANDLORD AND I HAVE A

30:02TENANT AND THAT TENANT WHEN

30:05WE'RE LOOKING AT MAY TO

30:07SEPTEMBER AND WE'RE LOOKING AT

30:10THE INCREASE HEAT BECAUSE WE

30:12HIT UP I BELIEVE AS HIGH AS.

30:14108 OVER THIS SUMMER, THOSE

30:17INDIVIDUALS ARE THE ONES THAT

30:20IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS

30:22DECISION SHOULD HAVE

30:24COMFORTABILITY AND KNOWING THAT

30:25WE HAVE MINIMUM CO REGULATION

30:28THAT WILL BE ABLE TOA BENEFIT

30:30THEM.

30:30BUT THIS IS NOT A CHARGE ON TO

30:36INDIVIDUAL OWNER OCCUPIED

30:38HOMEOWNERS.

30:39YOU CAN CHOOSE TO DO WHAT YOU

30:41WANT TO DO.

30:41INSIDE YOUR HOUSE.

30:43YET WE HAVE CREATED THROUGH OUR

30:47REHAB PROGRAM SOME FUNDING

30:51AVAILABLE TO ASSIST WHICH WHEN

30:53WE CREATED TLC BY CLT IN 2017

30:56THE WHOLE GOAL IN PARTNERSHIP

30:57WITH BOTH REBUILDING TOGETHER

30:59SPECTRUM AS WELL AS HABITAT FOR

31:01HUMANITY WAS TO GO IN AND DO

31:04REPAIRS SO THERE IS OPTIONS

31:05AVAILABLE AND I ALSO BELIEVE IN

31:08MY INTERPRETATION OF READING

31:09THROUGH THE 21ST CENTURY ROAD

31:11TO HOUSING BILL.

31:12WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CDBG FUNDS

31:14,THERE ALSO MAY BE ADDITIONAL

31:16FUNDS THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE

31:18TO US.

31:19BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO

31:20ONE HAS THE MISUNDERSTANDING

31:23THAT AS A OWNER OCCUPIED

31:26HOMEOWNER THAT YOU ARE GOING TO

31:28BE FORCED TOA INCLUDE UH HVAC

31:31UNIT INTO YOUR HOME.

31:33BUT AS A LANDLORD THESE MINIMUM

31:37CO REQUIREMENTS IF THIS

31:38COMMITTEE MOVES THIS FORWARD TO

31:40FOR COUNCIL AND FOR COUNCIL

31:42SUPPORTS IT WILL PROTECT THOSE

31:44RESIDENTS TO HELP THEM BE.

31:47IN A HOME THAT IS GOING TO HAVE

31:50A MINIMUM OF EXCESS OF 80

31:52DEGREES WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY

31:54HELP BENEFIT THEIR QUALITY OF

31:56LIFE, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

31:59THANK YOU THAT THAT'S THE POINT

32:01THAT I'M MAKING.

32:02YOU SAID IF AN OWNER CHOOSES

32:04NOT TO RUN THEIR THEIR AIR

32:06CONDITIONING I'M NOT TALKING

32:07ABOUT ANYONE WHO HAS A CHOICE.

32:09I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONES WHO

32:11HAVE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE

32:12AN AIR CONDITIONING SO THERE'S

32:16NO EXCEPTION FOR OR IS THERE?

32:18AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE

32:21IMPORTANT OR INSTEAD OF THEM

32:22GETTING A VIOLATION WITH 48

32:24HOURS TO COMPLY AND A FINE IF

32:26THEY DON'T COMPLY IF THEY ARE

32:28AUTOMATICALLY REFERRED FORA

32:31ASSISTANCE WILL THERE BE AN

32:32EXCEPTION FOR OWNER OCCUPANTS

32:33IN THIS POLICY?

32:35COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

32:36JUST FOR CLARIFICATION I

32:38SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT THAT OWNER

32:40OCCUPIED RESIDENT IS GOING TO

32:41CALL AND REPORT THEMSELVES BUT

32:43NOT HAVING A UNIT WELL THEY

32:44WILL SO THAT'S THE DID BUT I

32:46WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE

32:47NOT CONFUSED IN THE

32:49CONVERSATION.

32:49YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE

32:51OWNER UNLESS YOU CALL AND REACH

32:54OUT TO TIM.

32:57TO APPLY FOR OUR REHAB

33:00ASSISTANCE, THERE'S.

33:01NO WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO.

33:03KNOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AN AC

33:05UNIT BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR

33:06PERSONAL CHOICE WHETHER YOU

33:07CHOOSE TO RUN IT OR NOT.

33:08THE CLARIFICATION IN THIS IS

33:12SPECIFICALLY AND REALLY FOR

33:13LANDLORDS AND TO MAKE SURE

33:15TENANTS HAVE A HOME THAT WOULD

33:19BE A SAFE HOME FOR THEM

33:21ESPECIALLY DURING OUR HIGH AS

33:22MONTHS.

33:23SO I THINK THERE'S A CONFUSION

33:26OF WHAT MAY HAPPEN TO AN OWNER

33:28OCCUPIED RESIDENCE.

33:30AI SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT IF I

33:32CHOOSE NOT TO RUN MY AIR

33:33CONDITIONING THAT I'M GOING TO

33:34CALL AND REPORT MYSELF FOR A

33:36CODE VIOLATION.

33:38COUNCIL MEMBER MAY FEEL WHAT IF

33:40A CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES OUT

33:40FOR ANOTHER REASON?

33:42WE CAN'T PREDICT EVERY

33:45SITUATION WE SHOULD HAVE IN THE

33:47POLICY.

33:47WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR

33:48OWNER OCCUPANTS?

33:50SO IF CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES

33:52OUT FOR ANOTHER REASON AND THEY

33:54FIND UH THAT THE PERSON DOESN'T

33:57HAVE AIR CONDITIONING WHICH I'M

33:58SURE HAPPENS ALL THE TIME WHEN

34:00THEY GO OUT FOR ONE THING THEY

34:01FIND MULTIPLE ISSUES WHAT WILL

34:04HAPPEN ODOR SO IS THERE AN

34:06EXCEPTION FOR OWNER OCCUPANTS?

34:07CAN WE HAVE A MORE GRACEFUL

34:10POLICY FOR OWNER OCCUPANTS WHO

34:11MAY NOT HAVE AIR CONDITIONING

34:13OR CAN'T AFFORD THE REPAIR OR

34:15WHATEVER THAT IS?

34:16WE KNOW THE COST OF EVERYTHING

34:18IS GOING UP IN THIS CITY IN OUR

34:20COUNTRY.

34:21SO THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE

34:22WHO DON'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF

34:24BEING ABLE TO AFFORD TO TO PAY

34:26FOR THEIR HVAC SYSTEM RIGHT

34:28NOW.

34:30SOA ARE WE GOING TO HAVE UM ANY

34:34POLICY OR ANY REFERRAL PROCESS

34:36SO THAT THAT PERSON IS NOT

34:37FINED IF THEY DON'T REPAY

34:39REPAIRED WITHIN TWO DAYS?

34:41SO I DO NOT SEE A NEED TO ADD

34:44ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THERE YET.

34:45I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO

34:47OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT LEE.

34:49TO SHARE.

34:49WHAT THE ACTUAL PROCESS IS.

34:52IF YOU GO OUT FOR A CODE

34:55COMPLAINT FROM A NEIGHBOR OR

34:57SOMEBODY ELSE.

34:59SURE I DID.

35:00>> WHEN TO.

35:01ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCIL MEMBER

35:02ELIGIBLE FAST.

35:02YEAH I JUST I WANT THE I IT'S

35:04THE SAME LINE OF QUESTIONING

35:05BUT IF YOU CAN JUST LEVEL SET

35:06FOR ME WHAT WOULD BE A

35:08CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE IN SOMEONE

35:09WHO IS AN OWNER OCCUPIED HOME

35:11YOU WOULD BE THERE TO DO A CODE

35:13ENFORCEMENT?

35:13I CAN'T FOLLOW THE LOGIC.

35:14>> OF THAT.

35:15>> CAN YOU HELP ME GET THERE.

35:16THAT WAS ON HERE OKAY.

35:18>> YEAH.

35:19CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION.

35:20WHAT PERCENTAGE OF CODE

35:22ENFORCEMENT ARE YOU DOING ON

35:23OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES?

35:26UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

35:27I'D HAVE TO.

35:28>> GET YOU SOME NUMBERS AND

35:28STATS ON WHAT THE PERCENTAGE

35:29IS.

35:29I DON'T HAVEA THAT ON ME RIGHT

35:30NOW.

35:31WHAT WOULD BE A CIRCUMSTANCE I

35:32GUESS I'M NOT SURE IT'S A

35:33MEMBER, MAYFIELD SUGGESTED.

35:33LIKE A NEIGHBOR?

35:35SURE.

35:36>> UH, ONE OF THE COME TO.

35:38MIND IS HOUSE FIRES.

35:39UH, THAT'S ONE THAT WE WOULD

35:40HAVE.

35:40AND THEN UNDER THE.

35:41CURRENT MINIMUM CODE THEY WOULD

35:42JUST IF WE GO IN THERE THEY GO

35:43FOR DO A FULL INSPECTION ON THE

35:44PROPERTY IN THE HOUSE AND THEN.

35:46AS I FIND THOSE VIOLATIONS THEY

35:47WOULD WRITE UP WHICH EACH

35:49VIOLATION THAT UH THAT THEY'RE

35:50SEEING AT THAT TIME UH AND.

35:51THEN IF IT'S.

35:53>> A REQUIREMENT OF DEPENDING

35:53ON WHERE THE HALF HOUR IS

35:55WHAT'S A DAMAGE OR THINGS LIKE

35:56THAT, THAT'S WHAT WOULD GO IN

35:57THAT REPORT FOR THE HOMEOWNER

35:58AT THAT TIME.

35:59SO WOULD LACK OF.

36:00HAVING A WORKING HVAC UNIT IN

36:04THAT HOME THAT EXAMPLE YOU JUST

36:08UTILIZE A HOUSE FIRE.

36:09WOULD THAT BE ADDED TO THE LIST

36:11OF CODE INFECTIOUS.

36:12I THINK IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS

36:14DAMAGED AT THE TIME LIKE THERE

36:15WAS DAMAGE TO THAT THEN YES.

36:16THAT WOULD BE.

36:17>> SOMETHING THAT WOULD JUST

36:18NEED TO.

36:18BE FIXED AT THAT TIME.

36:19YEAH.

36:21IF I MAY THOUGH MY GUESS WOULD

36:23BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S

36:24A HOUSE FIRE THERE GOING TO BE

36:25OTHER OF THE EMERGENCY REPAIR

36:28ISSUES UM PRESENTA AND SO THERE

36:31MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE A SITUATION

36:33WHERE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY

36:34FOR A REFERRAL OR THERE'D BE

36:36SOME OTHER CITY RESOURCES THAT

36:37COULD POSSIBLY BE DEPLOYED TO

36:40ADDRESS THAT.

36:43DOES THAT HELP GIVE YOU

36:45CLARIFICATION, COUNCILMAN?

36:45>> I THINK FIRE IS A GREAT

36:47EXTREME.

36:47I THINK THERE ARE OTHER

36:48SITUATIONS WHERE A NEIGHBOR

36:49MIGHT CALL AND I DON'T KNOW

36:51HANGING GOT OUR CARS IN THE

36:52YARD OR OR SOME OTHER VIOLATION

36:55THAT WE KNOW THAT WE THAT WE

36:57GET HIGH GRASS OR OR SOMETHING

36:59IF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS AT

37:01YOUR DOOR AND WE KNOW THAT THEY

37:03GO OUT TO RESIDENTS HOMES I

37:06MEAN I THINK WE AS COUNCIL

37:07MEMBERS MIGHT HAVE CALLED AND

37:09YOU KNOW, FOR IF THERE'S

37:10SOMETHING GOING ON IN OUR IN

37:11OUR DISTRICT SO CODE

37:14ENFORCEMENT DOES GO TO HOMES

37:15WHERE PEOPLE OWN THEIR HOMES.

37:18SO IF THEY'RE OUT THERE AND

37:19THEY FIND THAT CODE I JUST I

37:21WOULD THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARY

37:24TO HAVE A PROCESS WHERE THERE'S

37:26AN EXCEPTION FOR OWNER

37:28OCCUPANTS OR A DIFFERENT

37:29PROCESSA INSTEAD OF PENALIZING

37:32IMMEDIATELY.

37:33THANK YOU FOR YOUR.

37:34ANALYSIS ON THAT.

37:34COUNCIL MEMBER JONES I BELIEVE

37:36STAFF DID WRITE THAT DOWN RIGHT

37:38NOW WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING AND

37:41WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A

37:43SECOND ON THE FLOOR AND THAT IS

37:46FOR THE RECOMMEND THAT MOVING

37:47TO FULL COUNCIL AMEND ORDINANCE

37:49TO REQUIRE AC AND ALL DWELLINGS

37:51AND AIR COOLING TO EMINENTLY

37:53DANGEROUS VIOLATIONS.

37:56WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

37:57ALL IN FAVOR ANY OPPOSED?

38:04HI THERE.

38:06HELLO.

38:06>> OKAY.

38:07>> WE JUST WE JUST DID THE BOAT

38:10ALL OF THE RECOMMEND THE MOTION

38:12THAT WAS SECONDED.

38:14I JUST TOOK THE VOTE BUT I

38:15THINK THERE WAS A.

38:16DELAY ON YOUR USING OKAY, SO

38:18YOU'RE WITHOUT THAT EXCEPTION.

38:20THANK YOU.

38:20SO THAT THE VOTE IS THREE AND

38:23FAVOR ONE IN OPPOSITION AND WE

38:25WILL MOVE THIS FORWARD TO FOUR

38:26COUNCIL STAFF DO YOU HAVE ANY

38:30DO. A

38:30>> YOU WANT TO GIVE AN.

38:31UPDATE FOR NEXT MONTH IN

38:33PREPARATION.

38:35OTHERWISE I WOULD ACCEPT THE

38:36MOTION TO.

38:37OKAY THAT DOCTOR SORT.

38:40HOLD ON COUNCIL MEMBER ALL.

38:44I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY SAY SO

38:46MONDAY WAS A LONG NIGHT BUT I

38:47DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO

38:49JUST SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR THE

38:51WORK AND.

38:51>> THE.

38:52CHARGE THAT YOU GAVE STAFF AS

38:53IT RELATES TO THE HOUSING

38:55POLICY.

38:55I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE

38:56ON IT NEXT MONTH AND WE HAD

38:58SEVERAL MEETINGS AND SEVERAL

39:00DISCUSSIONS, BUT JUST HAVING

39:01THAT PRETTY MUCH BE THE FIRST

39:03ITEM THAT I'VE HAD TO WORK ON

39:05AS DIRECTOR.

39:05I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE

39:06Y'ALL'S PASSION Y'ALL'S THAT'S

39:08NOT CORRECT.

39:09GRAMMAR IS SOUTHERN OKAY.

39:11I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION AND

39:12YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE

39:13COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE THE

39:15CHARGE AND THE CHALLENGE THAT

39:16YOU GAVE STAFF.

39:17AND I THINK WE STEPPED UP TO

39:18THE CHALLENGE.

39:18SO I JUST WANTED TO HAVE AN

39:20OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU

39:21BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE

39:22TO SAY IT MONDAY NIGHT.

39:23THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT

39:24YOU ALL DO.

39:25I RECEIVED A MOTION.

39:26TO ADJOURN.

39:27SECOND MOTION AND SECOND.

39:29ALL IN FAVOR. A

39:31I THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

39:33>> THIS IS PROBABLY BE OUR

39:34SHORTEST MEETING OF THE YEAR.

40:41A