2026-10-21 - City Council

16:39Right.

16:42[snorts] Good morning.

16:44Wow, it's nice to see so many familiar

16:47faces.

16:49Madame clerk, are you

16:52[clears throat]

16:53are you ready? [cough]

16:56You are.

16:57>> Okay. Are we online?

17:00Yes.

17:00>> Okay.

17:01>> And we do have council member Eert on

17:02there.

17:03>> We're okay then.

17:04>> Uh I can't see anything though.

17:07>> Oh. Um

17:11okay.

17:13>> Just give us one second. We're waiting

17:15to get another one connected. Good

17:17morning.

17:25You're so cute.

17:30All right. Are you are we ready or you

17:33want to give it a

17:34>> We're just waiting for the feed to

17:35start.

17:36>> Oh, okay. Give us one second. We've been

17:39going in and out of technical

17:40difficulty.

17:46Okay, we can begin.

17:53All right. Um, good morning everyone.

17:57Thank you so much for being here. We are

17:59going to actually start with a brief

18:01moment of silence.

18:04Oh, I guess that wasn't okay for Reno.

18:08He didn't like that that plan or he's

18:11giving a nod. Um,

18:14the community lost a a very very dear

18:18friend and supporter who many of you

18:21probably um have known for decades who

18:24came across um our morning radio every

18:28morning in the city and his name was

18:31Panama and he was just a wonderful

18:33wonderful human being and he championed

18:36so many causes and I we're all just

18:40really really devastated excited to hear

18:42of his passing. Um he championed so many

18:46initiatives for Evelyn and Mount and

18:49community organizations. And so I would

18:51like to start with a moment of silence

18:54for our dear friend Panama. So please

18:57join me.

19:19All right. Thank you everyone.

19:26Okay.

19:28Uh we also I I want to

19:31um sort of outline the day because we do

19:36have a really really full agenda

19:40and um I think madame clerk you have

19:44taken in all the public comments

19:46correct? I would like to um

19:51before we begin that process and then

19:53I'll outline it so that everyone knows

19:56because we want to make sure that the

19:58meeting runs smoothly and get to

20:02everyone's items. That's really really

20:03important because um I know that all of

20:06these other items are important to many

20:09of you in this room this morning.

20:12So, I would like to start out with a

20:16very special guest.

20:19Are you excited?

20:20>> Yes.

20:21>> All right, everyone. This is the mayor

20:23for the day. So, if you have any issues,

20:26there you go. [laughter]

20:30Anyway, this is um I am so impressed, by

20:33the way. I am so impressed. Angel Amore,

20:37how do I pronounce your last name?

20:38>> Sabria.

20:39>> Senria. Sanabria.

20:41>> Sanabria. That's beautiful. And her

20:44father is right there. Proud papa right

20:47there. Tell us a little bit about

20:48yourself before we begin. And we're

20:50going to have you lead us in the pledge

20:52of allegiance. Okay. So, tell me, where

20:54do you go to school? How old are you?

20:56What do you love to do? What do you hate

20:58to do? What do you eat? What do you tell

21:00me the things that make you happy?

21:03>> Um, [clears throat]

21:04my name is Angel. I go to Kora Academy

21:07of Science Middle School. Uh, my

21:10favorite thing to do is to hang out with

21:13my friends.

21:14>> Good.

21:15>> And my least favorite thing to do is

21:19do nothing.

21:20>> Oh, okay. There you go. I love that. So,

21:22you're a doer. Like this one over here.

21:24>> A

21:25>> right. Uh, tell me, do you get good

21:28grades?

21:29>> Yeah.

21:29>> What? What? That seemed a little

21:31hesitant.

21:32>> Yeah.

21:32>> You get good grades, right?

21:34>> All right. Well, we're very happy to

21:36have you here this morning. And so we're

21:37all going to stand and you get to lead

21:39us in the pledge.

21:40>> Okay.

21:41>> Okay.

21:43>> We're going to look right here.

21:50>> I pledge aliance to the flag of the

21:54United States of America and to the

21:57republic for which it stands, one nation

22:00under God, indivisible, for liberty and

22:04justice for all.

22:06Very well done. Impressed. Impressive.

22:10Angel.

22:14>> All right, Madam Clerk, I'm going to

22:15send it to you for roll call.

22:18>> Thank you. We are calling ro for the

22:19Wednesday, October 21st, 2026 Reno City

22:22Council meeting. Council member Taylor

22:24>> here.

22:25>> Council member Derer

22:26>> here.

22:27>> Vice Mayor Martinez

22:28>> here.

22:29>> Council member Eert

22:31>> here.

22:31>> Present on Zoom. Council member Reese

22:33>> here. Council member Anderson

22:35>> here

22:35>> and Mayor Sheibi

22:36>> here.

22:37>> You do have a quorum.

22:38>> Okay. Thank you so much. We we do have a

22:41couple proclamations and then um we I

22:46I'm going to ask because I know we have

22:48a lot of public comment. Madame Clerk,

22:51um I think you have 14 general public

22:53comments.

22:55>> Uh we have I think 23 now.

22:57>> Okay.

22:59So with that being said, good morning.

23:03Um, with that being said, so I want to

23:06outline sort of how this will work. Um,

23:10let's see. So, general public comment

23:13will be typically uh for an item um that

23:18really isn't agenda related. So, uh so I

23:22would ask that general public comment

23:24stay to that and if you're here for

23:26specific items that you speak um when we

23:29do have that item. We are going to move

23:32the agenda around just a little bit

23:34today. Uh I want to get to some of the

23:37most pressing items first so that all of

23:39you can get back to work. Does that

23:41sound good? Unless you don't want to go

23:43to work. I don't know. Right. Okay. Um

23:47All right. So,

23:49Madame Clerk, sound good. Okay. And I'm

23:53going to um remind everyone you have

23:56three minutes. And after that 3 minutes,

23:59because we want to make sure everyone

24:01gets the same amount of time and same

24:03comments on the record. So, uh, after 3

24:06minutes, um, Madame Clerk will cut you

24:10off. So, it's not personal. It's just

24:12that we want to get everyone's comments

24:13on the record because it's really

24:15important. So, okay, Madame Clerk, I'm

24:19going to send it back to you. Madame

24:21Mayor, our first item today is public

24:23comment. It should be noted for those in

24:25attendance that comments are to be

24:26addressed to the mayor and council as a

24:27whole. Comments heard under this item

24:29will be limited to three minutes per

24:31person and may pertain to matters both

24:32on and off the council's agenda. Council

24:35may not take action upon any matter not

24:36agendaized on today's agenda. When you

24:39are called on for public comment, please

24:40state your name for the record and begin

24:42speaking. The timer will begin when you

24:43say your name and you will be afforded

24:45three minutes. For those participating

24:47in chambers in accordance with council

24:49rules 6.3.11

24:51while in this room, please be

24:52respectful. Disruptive behavior from

24:54audience members like clapping, yelling,

24:56whistling, etc. which impede the meeting

24:58may result in a warning issued by the

24:59presiding officer. If the behavior

25:02continues, you may be removed from

25:03chambers. If you are an attendee in the

25:05Zoom meeting and would like to make

25:06public comment, please raise your hand

25:07at this time. Did you want to do the

25:09proclamations first or

25:11>> Yes. So, we're going to start with

25:12proclamations. Which one would you like

25:14us to do first?

25:18I'm I'm sorry. Can you repeat that?

25:20>> Oh, which one would you like us to do

25:21first?

25:22>> Oh, Liberty Dogs since Reno's here.

25:25>> All right. So, we have a very special

25:27proclamation and a very special dog.

25:30Reno, where are you? Look at this baby.

25:34Look at this.

25:41All right.

25:46and our dear friend who always motivates

25:49the room. Good morning.

25:50>> Good morning.

25:53>> This is great. Okay.

26:04>> You didn't want me to read it, did you?

26:05>> Oh, yes. It's all you. You You're the

26:08motivator.

26:10>> I love it. Take it away.

26:12>> Okay, I will read it then. Uh

26:14>> good morning.

26:16>> All right. It's going to be a good

26:18meeting.

26:18>> Tell them a little bit though about who

26:20you are and what he is impressive man.

26:23Many of you probably I you don't need an

26:26introduction.

26:26>> I [clears throat] am Andre Barry. I'm

26:28the CEO of Liberty Dogs. Liberty Dogs is

26:30uh comes from the David Foundation and

26:33this is where we pair disabled veterans

26:35up with service dogs and we also provide

26:36wellness. We really work on the

26:38independence and the transformation of

26:40our veterans. So I like to say we take

26:43care of those who've taken care of this

26:44great nation. So and if anybody here has

26:47a desire to volunteer or be a part of

26:49learn more about please see us at

26:51liberty dogs libertydogs.org. All right

26:54everybody who wants to volunteer.

26:56[laughter]

26:57>> Do not give me the mic.

26:59>> You got a lot of takers. And he has an

27:01impressive background. General Andre

27:04Barry and many of you have known him for

27:07decades in this community doing

27:08incredible work and serving our nation.

27:11And how long were you um with the

27:14governor?

27:15>> I was with uh I was 5 years as the agent

27:18general, 38 years in the military, 25

27:20years with Reno Police Department, but

27:21other than that I haven't done a lot.

27:23>> Oh, right. Right. [laughter] All right,

27:24my friend. Take it away.

27:26>> Okay. This is for it says office of the

27:28mayor, city of Reno, Nevada

27:29proclamation. Whereas Liberty Dogs is a

27:32national nonprofit organization based in

27:34Reno dedicated to serving US military

27:36veterans by training and providing

27:38service dogs at no cost to veterans to

27:40restore in independence, confidence,

27:42connection, and hope. And whereas

27:44Liberty Dogs is the flagship initiative

27:46of the Dave Shaw Duffield Foundation,

27:48whose generous funding and commitment to

27:49US veterans and animal welfare make it

27:52possible to provide highly trained

27:53service dogs and comprehensive support

27:56to veterans at no cost. And whereas in

27:582022, Liberty Dogs broke ground on his

28:01Reno campus, marking the beginning of an

28:04incredible vision to create a

28:05state-of-the-art home for service dog

28:07training, veteran support, education,

28:10wellness, and community engagement. And

28:11whereas today, Liberty Dogs has brought

28:13that vision to life with a purpose-built

28:16campus dedicated to preparing service

28:18dogs and supporting veterans as they

28:19build lifechanging partnerships

28:22together. And whereas, Liberty Dog

28:24serves veterans through a service dog

28:26training and placement program and

28:28warrior wellness programs while engaging

28:31in parks in the [laughter] community

28:32through puppy raising, puppy sitting,

28:35volunteerism, and partnerships. And

28:37whereas the city of Reno, the city of

28:39Reno, the city of Reno has proudly

28:42partnered with Liberty Dogs to support

28:44service dogs and training, including

28:45Welcome Reno, the city's official

28:49Liberty Dog.

28:50>> A

28:51>> that deserves a round of applause.

28:58>> Serve as an ambassador for the mission

29:01while preparing for the possibility of

29:02one day being paired with a veteran. And

29:05now therefore, I in lie of the mayor

29:08Hillary El Shivi, mayor of the city of

29:11Reno, Nevada, do hereby declare October

29:1413th, 2026 Liberty Dogs Day in and for

29:18the city of Reno. I encourage the

29:20community, that's all of you out there,

29:22to support Liberty Dogs. to support

29:24Liberty Dogs. To support Liberty Dogs

29:27and their mission for veterans as they

29:29demonstrate the compassion, service, and

29:32community spirit, community spirit that

29:34defines the biggest little city in the

29:38world. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you

29:40for what you have done for us. Thank

29:42you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

29:43Thank [applause] you. And uh this is

29:47Reno's razor right here. Puppy razor

29:49right here. So, you got to introduce

29:51yourself and tell everybody about you.

29:53I'm not taking over the meeting, but

29:54they should charisma.

29:55>> Does he not have the best charisma? This

29:57is [laughter] how you start out a day.

30:00>> I really do.

30:00>> All right. Tell us how it's going.

30:02>> Yes. Uh Jennifer Alvarez, council

30:04leazison for the record. Uh we're

30:06actually co-raising with Tristan, as you

30:08know.

30:08>> Co-arenting.

30:09>> So Tristan and I are Yes. We're

30:11co-parents. We have a parenting

30:13agreement, the whole [laughter] ordeal.

30:15>> Yes.

30:16>> And we exchange Reno every Friday. Um

30:18it's going really well. It's been great

30:20to work with Liberty Dogs. We go to

30:22training every week. He's a very bright

30:25puppy and brings so much joy to city

30:26hall.

30:27>> Very smart.

30:28>> Reno is so loving. I've never He'll just

30:30like lay on you.

30:32>> Yes.

30:32>> He is amazing. Amazing. Which parent is

30:36a little more lenient with the treats?

30:39[laughter]

30:40>> You I'm a softy. I love him.

30:42>> We knew it. Thank you so much. And

30:44congratulations, Reno. And thank you so

30:48much, General. You're just you're just

30:51amazing. Thank you for everything you do

30:52for our community and our veterans.

30:55>> Thank you for all that you do for

30:57supporting us, being a part of this this

30:59partnership. Uh we couldn't do it

31:01without volunteers and we couldn't do it

31:02without support. We couldn't do it

31:03behind without people having our backs

31:05and it takes a great community and the

31:07collaboration is going to be phenomenal.

31:09Call it the eighth wonder of the world.

31:10So thank each and every one of you.

31:12>> How do people get involved? Just tell

31:13us.

31:14>> Just go to libertydogs.org. You can

31:16volunteer. If you know a veteran that

31:17would like to put in for our wellness

31:18class or potentially be paired, they can

31:21just sign up right there online. There's

31:22a number there, too, to reach out to us.

31:24We want to make a difference and change

31:27this world for the better. I like to say

31:29we are going to be the dispensers of

31:30hope to make this a better world. So,

31:32>> wow. And your campus is absolutely

31:34phenomenal.

31:36>> Well, thank you so so much.

31:38>> Thank you. Thank you, mayor, for the

31:39day.

31:41[laughter]

31:42>> All right. Appreciate.

31:42>> All right. Thank you. Sure.

31:47>> Yes. Quick photo.

31:54>> Angel, how did this happen? You got

31:56taller than You're taller than me.

31:58[laughter]

31:59>> You can stay right there.

32:00>> Yeah, right there. You're the picture.

32:01[clears throat]

32:03Everybody in.

32:03>> Okay, here we go.

32:15One more.

32:18>> The number of the day.

32:19>> One, two, three. Second in.

32:26>> Yeah. Right.

32:27>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

32:42All right. Uh, which one is that?

32:47>> Okay. Uh, this is a proclamation uh

32:50requested by Councilwoman Dor. Go ahead.

32:58All

33:08right.

33:12Yeah.

33:13Good morning.

33:14>> Good morning. If you'd like to stand

33:16over here, I'd like to introduce Colton

33:18Michael. He is a very proud

33:20percussionist, right, with the Reno Pops

33:23Orchestra. And they are doing a and we

33:26have other members as well. Paul, would

33:28you like to introduce yourselves?

33:31>> I am Amy Willoughby. I am uh the

33:34president of the board of the Reno Pops

33:36Orchestra. Y

33:37>> and I play the viola.

33:38>> Oh, I love that. I love your earrings,

33:40too, by the way.

33:43I

33:43>> am Alice Rashel. I am the publicity

33:45chair for the Prio Pops board of

33:47directors and I also play the flute.

33:49>> Wow. Wow.

33:51>> Thank you.

33:52>> Your instruments.

33:53>> I know. I would have loved to hear a

33:54like a two minute.

33:55>> We've got many musicians in the room. I

33:57can see back there. Annie,

33:58>> I know. Well, um, and I'm going to I'm

34:01uh lucky to be able to attend their

34:03upcoming performance of the Reno Pops

34:06Orchestra. Um, Colton will just tell us

34:08a bit about that after, but let me just

34:10read this proclamation. They are a

34:12volunteer orchestra. They've served the

34:14community since 1982, bringing people

34:17together through the gift of music and

34:20enriching the cultural life of Reno and

34:22Northern Nevada. And whereas their

34:24mission is to bring great music from a

34:26wide variety of genres, periods, and

34:29cultures to the widest possible audience

34:31in the region through free concerts,

34:33including family and children's

34:34performances. And whereas the orchestra

34:37educates, excites, and connects our

34:39community through entertaining

34:41performances that share a love of music

34:43with the audience of all ages and

34:45backgrounds and are presented by

34:47volunteer musicians from diverse

34:49backgrounds performing professional

34:52level literature and music under an

34:54accomplished conductor. And whereas the

34:57orchestra rehearses on Wednesdays and

35:00welcomes anyone regardless of their

35:01background to join their community days,

35:04open rehearsals and experience making

35:06music with the orchestra. How fun would

35:07that be if we could only play and sing?

35:11But anyway, and whereas the orchestra

35:13supports lifelong musical learning and

35:16provides students with opportunities to

35:18play along ex experience alongside

35:21experienced musicians, develop their

35:23skills and learn orchestral literature

35:25under the guidance of artistic director

35:28and conductor Dr. Jane K. Brown. And

35:31finally, whereas the orchestra

35:33encourages young talent through

35:34scholarships, guest artist

35:36opportunities, and other quality

35:38outreach programs, inspiring future

35:40generations of music and music lovers.

35:43So therefore, I Naomi Derer, on behalf

35:45of Hillary Elshibi, mayor of the city of

35:48Reno, uh do hereby declare October 24th,

35:522026 Reno Pops Orchestra Day, and

35:56Naomi's anniversary as well.

35:57>> Oh, okay. Um, [laughter]

35:59and so would you like to tell us a few

36:01things about the performance?

36:03>> Tell us how everyone can get involved

36:04and how we can find those community

36:06days.

36:07>> Yes, thank you. Uh, once again, my name

36:08is Colton Michael. I serve on the board

36:11of directors as well as the marketing

36:13and publicity uh, chair. But we are

36:16really excited to be here and be

36:17recognized by Miss Naomi and and you as

36:20well uh, Mayor Shivi. Our orchestra,

36:23like I said, is a community orchestra.

36:25we have from teachers, professionals,

36:28retired professionals, students that

36:29play with us to bring the gift of music.

36:32And our concerts, we keep it at a at a

36:34very very low cost, free. I think you

36:36can't beat that.

36:38>> Um, and we invite everyone to come and

36:41listen and enjoy the gift of music with

36:43us. Uh, alongside that, we have many

36:45different programs to support

36:47independent artists. And like this

36:49upcoming concert this Saturday, uh,

36:51we're going to be having Firebird Light

36:53Opera join us. and we love to

36:54collaborate with different organizations

36:57to make sure that we bring the best

36:58quality quality of music to our

37:00community. So, we thank the city of Reno

37:02for this, for this recognization. It's

37:04really an honor for us.

37:05>> And it's going to be where?

37:06>> Oh, thank you. Caught me. It's going to

37:08be at Night and Gale Concert Hall at

37:10UNR. Uh concert starts at 7:00. Doors

37:13open at 6:30. Um and it's going to be we

37:16have music from all over. We're doing

37:18stuff from classical opera to even

37:21Phantom of the Opera. Um, so we're it's

37:24going to be exciting.

37:25>> I'm looking forward to it. Thank you so

37:27much for everything that you all do and

37:29the rest of the orchestra. It looks like

37:31Rebecca's thinking of pictures in order.

37:33So, [laughter]

37:35>> wow. Thank you so much.

37:37>> Impressive.

37:40>> Okay.

37:43>> Yes. Let's

37:46get this.

37:49[clears throat]

38:01>> You got it.

38:03>> Did you make us taller?

38:08>> Don't do it.

38:09>> Don't do it.

38:11>> Thank you.

38:13Thank [clears throat] you.

38:13>> Young impressive. I love it.

38:16>> Congratulations.

38:21>> Okay, we have one more. And we had to do

38:24this one because of the timing. And

38:28are you do you like to read?

38:31>> Are you going to be nervous?

38:34>> No. No. You're going to be great.

38:37Councilman Ree, will you help kick it

38:39off with Megan over here?

38:41>> That would be great. And I I this is

38:43actually very special. Come on up. And

38:46you want to go with her?

38:47>> Oh, do you want to come?

38:47>> Yeah.

39:00All right, raise your hand. How many of

39:03you

39:05know that the arch is turning 100? Raise

39:09your hand. I want to know. Be honest.

39:12be honest.

39:14>> All right.

39:17>> Here, you're going to start up at the

39:19top and we're going to just read the

39:20word and what follows it.

39:22>> Okay.

39:23>> Okay.

39:25warehouse. Uh the Reno Arch, first

39:29dedicated

39:31uh on October 23rd, 1926,

39:36has been a symbol representing the city

39:38of Reno for the entire century. And

39:42whereas

39:44100 years ago, the landmark Reno Arch

39:47was built to celebrate Nevada's

39:50transental

39:53>> transcontinental

39:55highway.

39:56>> It's okay. expose and the comp

40:00completion

40:02of the Lincoln and Victory Highways and

40:07whereas the arch and it's a comp

40:12company moto

40:15the biggest little city in the world

40:18have become internationally

40:22known

40:25contributing ing the city is renown

40:28across the globe often used as a symbol

40:32representing the city on screens large

40:35and small. And whereas today we

40:40celebrate the recent designation

40:43of the Reno Orange on Lake Street to the

40:46city of Reno register of historical

40:50places recognations

40:52recognizing its

40:55>> significance

40:56>> significance

40:58in our shared history. And whereas the

41:01arch itself represents a meth

41:06metaphorical

41:07>> metaphorical bridge that connects the

41:10city's the city's illustrationist

41:13uh past to its exciting future. Now

41:17therefore,

41:19>> I, Angel,

41:20>> I, Angel,

41:21>> on behalf of

41:22>> on behalf of Hillary

41:24>> Shibi,

41:24>> Shibi, mayor of the city of Reno,

41:27Nevada, due to hereby declare October

41:3023rd, 2026, original Reno Arch Central

41:35Day. And in for the city of Reno, we

41:38proudly celebrate the 100th birthday of

41:41this iconic symbol of the biggest little

41:44city in the world.

41:45>> Wow, good job. Those

41:48[applause]

41:52were big words. They were tough and a

41:54lot of pressure in the room, right? I

41:56thought you did a phenomenal job. Megan,

41:58would you like to introduce your guests

42:00and talk about the Historical Resources

42:02Commission? They do a and do incredible

42:05work. So, tell us what you got planned.

42:08>> Megan Burner. I'm the arts and culture

42:09manager. I'm actually going to introduce

42:10Joy Orch who is the president of

42:13historical Reno Preservation Society.

42:16Hi.

42:16>> She's going to tell you about what they

42:17have planned for.

42:18>> I love it. I love it. Tell us.

42:20>> Okay. Well, um, yes. I'm Joy Orlich,

42:23president of Historic Reno Preservation

42:24Society. Arch turns 100 um on Friday,

42:28literally that and so we've got a

42:29birthday party planned and um I have one

42:32with me, but there's little postcards

42:33out there, right? And the public is

42:35invited. Uh Melissa, who is also on our

42:38board, um has one of these. But it'll

42:40just be a short ceremony from 5 to 6:00

42:43and um we'll be meeting on the plaza at

42:46the National Automobile Museum and um

42:49we've invited various council members

42:51and especially Naomi Der who's liazison

42:53to the uh historical resources

42:55commission um and Kathleen Taylor whose

42:58ward this is and and mayor to perhaps

43:00read this proclamation there as well. We

43:03will have um Christine Fay who was with

43:05the city and um who was the city planner

43:08who helped um arrange the uh placement

43:11of the arch in its present location,

43:13right? Because it was in storage before

43:15it was used as a movie prop. And then um

43:17people liked it and said we need to keep

43:19this alive. And so you'll hear a little

43:22bit more about that. And we'll have cake

43:23and cider for everyone. It's free and

43:24open to the public 5:00 the plaza of the

43:27National Automobile Museum. So we hope

43:29you can join us.

43:30>> Wow, that's so cool. And does the

43:34original arch

43:36was that purchased by another city?

43:38>> Nope.

43:38>> No,

43:39>> this is the original arch.

43:40>> This is the 1964 arch, the structure

43:43went to Willlets, California. Okay,

43:45that's what I was saying.

43:46>> And then this one went uh back to um I

43:49think Idle Wild Park. It was at Paradise

43:51Park for a while, then it was in storage

43:53um until it was used as a movie prop in

43:55mid1 1980s, I believe.

43:57>> Okay. So, everyone, that is the

43:59[clears throat] original arch on Lake

44:00Street. It is

44:01>> the the OG

44:02>> and it has a great history and if you

44:03pick up one of these postcards, there's

44:05a QR code and the uh city has prepared a

44:08a little history of the arch with some

44:11great photos and things. So, it's worth

44:12taking a look at or go what's the what's

44:14the web link?

44:16>> Go to renoculture.com.

44:18>> renoculture.com.

44:19>> renoculture.com.

44:20>> Yeah.

44:20>> Okay, perfect.

44:22>> I want to recognize Miss Fay over here.

44:25She is responsible for so many

44:28initiatives in this city pertaining to

44:30arts and culture and history. You served

44:34the city for how long?

44:35>> 30 years.

44:36>> 30 years. And Megan and I, we were

44:40fortunate enough to serve with you at

44:42the beginning of our careers, remember?

44:45Uh, phenomenal work. You should be very,

44:47very proud. I'm so happy that you stayed

44:49engaged and continue to give back. But

44:52this is really historical and very very

44:55special. I'm glad we're celebrating it

44:56and recognizing it because of all of

44:58your efforts. Really makes a huge

45:00difference.

45:01>> Thank you.

45:01>> Thank you so much. All right.

45:06>> Come on up.

45:08Okay. One more time. Time.

45:11>> Friday.

45:12>> Friday, October 23rd.

45:15National Automobile Museum Plaza. You

45:17need to enter from the back the

45:21Okay, great. Perfect. Okay, here we go.

45:31>> Okay.

45:36>> Oh, good job.

46:02Madame clerk, before we begin, do you

46:05have anything you would like to add on

46:06the agenda? No, it is um in the order in

46:10which it is other than an attorney

46:12client for lunch.

46:16>> Item is that

46:17>> B14?

46:17>> B14. Okay. Uh just to let everyone know

46:21uh we are going to take item B14 first

46:24after public comment and then we are

46:27going to take item C1.

46:30Okay. So um take it away madam clerk.

46:34Terry Brooks, followed by Stephen White,

46:37followed by Jamie Vaughn.

46:45>> Good morning. It's me, Mark Twain again.

46:47No,

46:48>> no, Terry Brooks. My name is Terry

46:50Brooks, not Mark Twain. And today, I'd

46:52like to share with you my thoughts on

46:54coping with age and what seniors go

46:57through. As we grow older, there are

47:00several changes we go through and we

47:03have to learn how to deal with all of

47:05them, too. We soon realize that we are

47:08not as strong as we used to be. And that

47:11we are not quite as energetic as we used

47:13to be. We also find that we are not as

47:17physically able as we used to be. We may

47:20have trouble with body movement since

47:21we're not as limber as we used to be. I

47:25have trouble bending over and trying to

47:27tie my shoes. Every time I try to do so,

47:30I get another case of the blues. And we

47:33might find it harder to try to fake take

47:37a deep

47:39to try to take a deep breath, which

47:41makes it more often that we often find

47:44ourselves out of breath.

47:47Or we might have trouble keeping our

47:49balance and wind up falling on the

47:51floor. And the older that we are, it

47:53happens even more. or as time goes by,

47:57it seems to impair our vision, so we

48:00have to get better glasses to prevent a

48:03a potential collision. Or we find in

48:06later life that our hearing is impaired,

48:09so we might need a hearing aid to try to

48:11be better prepared. And as we get older,

48:15we might discover that we've been

48:17gaining a lot of weight because of less

48:20physical activity and because of how

48:22much we ate. And we suspect that our

48:25memory is not as good as it used to be.

48:28That is, if we can even remember how

48:31good it used to be. We all have to cope

48:34with all of these aging problems and

48:37we'll think of all kinds of ways to try

48:39to lessen our problems. It's hard enough

48:42to deal with them if we do just one at a

48:45time, but dealing with several of them

48:48at once is what inspired me to write

48:50this rhyme. I would like to thank you

48:53all for listening to me today and I look

48:55forward to coming back if I'm able to

48:57remember which day. Thank you.

49:01>> Isn't that the truth? Well, thank you so

49:03much, Terry. What are we on? How many?

49:06>> This is chapter 43. And just so you

49:09know, I've only got three more chapters

49:12to go.

49:12>> There you go. Love it. All right. Hello,

49:15my friend.

49:16>> Good morning, mayor and little Miss

49:18Mayor and the city council members.

49:22You know, I got to ask you to start this

49:25out again. What are you going to do to

49:26make everything better in the city?

49:34>> I haven't really thought about that.

49:35>> If you had a magic wand, what would you

49:37do today? Well, you got to think about

49:39it because that's going to be your job.

49:41[laughter] Okay. So, tell us if you had

49:43a magic wand, what would you change

49:45today?

49:47>> If you had any power?

49:49I would change

49:52for less paperwork.

49:55>> Oh, less people to work. Okay.

49:57>> Well, not less people to work, like less

49:59paperwork.

50:00>> Oh, I thought you said less pay. Oh,

50:02okay. I got it. I thought you said

50:04everyone can have the day off of work.

50:07>> No. Okay. Less paperwork. So, you you

50:10want to make sure that you get rid of

50:12red tape. Streamline the process. All

50:15right. That's a great start, Mayor.

50:17Okay. We We all like that. All right.

50:21Okay. Go right ahead.

50:22>> You're doing a good job of recruiting

50:24your replacement. [laughter]

50:28>> You know, I hesitate with a young person

50:30here to mention this, but had another

50:33incident up there in Bend, Oregon over

50:35the week. You know,

50:37I'm just going to say this. You know, as

50:39a witness to the massacre at Coline, I

50:44art saved kids lives.

50:46Art saves a lot of people's lives. It

50:48can save a lot of seniors lives. And I

50:51came here in 2002 to deliver a little

50:54gift of art back to the children of your

50:56city. And after all these years working

50:58with the mayor and all we finally have

51:00done that wonderful thing that you've

51:02all done, opening all your public parks

51:05up for the arts. Maybe I hope it will

51:08grow and we'll spread the gift of art

51:11back to children all over this country

51:14and save a lot of lives.

51:16Anyway, I just wanted to mention that

51:17today and I wanted to thank you and this

51:20your last one, huh? Your last council

51:22meeting.

51:22>> No, a couple more.

51:23>> I'm going to miss you. [laughter]

51:25[gasps] Anyway, thank you all very much

51:27and God bless. Oh, and one more thing,

51:28Mr. Martinez. I noticed in the agenda

51:31you're supporting two more of the art

51:32programs and I wanted to thank you for

51:34that. You are one of the people I think

51:37that understands that the greatest tool

51:39that we have for building bridges of

51:41understanding in this country between

51:43all the people that make up this melting

51:45part of humanity that we call America is

51:48the fine arts and that's why we need to

51:51do that more than ever in my lifetime.

51:53We need to be doing that a lot more.

51:55>> God bless you all and thank you very

51:57much.

51:57>> Thank you so much. Thank you for

51:59everything. Thank you. And you should

52:00meet this wonderful woman over here,

52:02Christine Fay, because she huge champion

52:06for the arts. And so you would have a

52:07lot in common. And I hope you've been

52:09following what he was able to accomplish

52:11here in the city to make sure that we

52:14are, you know, fostering the arts and

52:17giving everyone an opportunity.

52:19>> It's a remarkable thing. I mean, I tell

52:21I tell artists about how the city of

52:23Reno is actually inviting artists to

52:25come to the art to the parks and display

52:28and sell their work and they don't even

52:29believe it. It's just mindboggling. So,

52:31it's a wonderful thing. I don't want to

52:33take up more time. God bless you all.

52:34Thank you. Thank you, Mayor.

52:40>> Jamie Vaughn followed by David Shakar

52:42followed by Ursen Whitten.

52:51Good morning, Jamie. Good morning,

52:53Mayor. You guys may amazing. I've known

52:56her for a very, very long time. You are

52:58doing incredible, incredible work. Thank

53:01you. Thank you so much.

53:02>> This is my first time. So,

53:03>> is it your first time?

53:05>> Yes.

53:05>> Okay. Well, you're going to do great.

53:07Just take your time and um we're excited

53:10to have you. So, go ahead.

53:11>> Thank you. Um, my name is Jamie Allen

53:14Vaughn and I am a retired teacher, a

53:17breast cancer survivor and the founder

53:20and president of Test Those Breasts, a

53:22Reno based nonprofit.

53:24And yes, the name gets a lot of

53:27attention and that's where the

53:29conversation begins. In June of 2022, I

53:32was diagnosed with stage 2 breast cancer

53:36one week after I retired. Nothing

53:39prepares you for hearing those words.

53:41But that experience gave me a new

53:43purpose helping people have information

53:46and the confidence to act on it. And

53:49they fa um before they actually even

53:52face a diagnosis. For over 20 years, my

53:55job as a teacher was to help people

53:57understand something and recognize what

53:59they can do with that knowledge. Today,

54:01my classroom looks different, but that

54:04purpose still remains.

54:07Through test those breasts, we bring

54:08accessible breast health education into

54:10community spaces. We help people

54:13recognize warning signs, understand

54:15their risk, and feel more confident

54:18about advocating for themselves. We make

54:20room for questions people may have been

54:22too embarrassed, overwhelmed, or afraid

54:25to ask. Because breast health education

54:28shouldn't begin with the words, "You

54:30have cancer." And it shouldn't wait

54:33until someone reaches screening age. The

54:35American Cancer Society reported that

54:37breast cancer diagnosis rates among

54:39women under 50 increased by 1.4%

54:43annually from 2012 to 2021, faster than

54:48among women 50 or older. Young adults

54:51deserve information they can use now.

54:54Know your body, learn your family

54:56history, pay attention to changes, and

54:59speak up when something doesn't feel

55:00right. That's why we created the MBA

55:03program. my best act. It's our

55:06peer-to-peer education initiative

55:08through our studentled uh through our

55:11studentled test those breast club at the

55:14University of Nevada Reno. Students are

55:16practicing how to bring those

55:17conversations to their peers. They're

55:20learning that they have a voice and that

55:22their voice can help someone else take

55:25action. As a former teacher, watching

55:27that confidence grow is incredibly

55:29meaningful. those students can bring

55:32what they learn to their friends, their

55:34families, and their communities. They'll

55:36actually serve one day. Now, we need

55:39help turning that momentum into sustain

55:42a sustainable community resource. We are

55:45seeking partnerships.

55:48We are seeking partnerships and

55:49financial support to train more

55:51educators, offer more classes, and reach

55:54more people throughout Reno. May um may

55:57I my ask is straightforward. Help us

56:00open doors, connect us to city staff,

56:02potential funding resources, and

56:04community partners who can help bring

56:05this education to more people you serve.

56:08I know what it feels like to receive a

56:10diagnosis. And as an educator and an

56:12advocate, I also know the value of

56:14giving someone the confidence and ask

56:16one more question, making making an

56:18appointment and concerned uh get your

56:20concerns checked. Thank you for helping.

56:23Our tagline is find it early, change the

56:25outcome, and people can get involved by

56:27testes.org. or emailing me jvon or at

56:32excuse me teslas breast.org.

56:34>> Uh thank you. Thank you for what you are

56:37doing. It's incredibly personal for me

56:40as you know. I've known you probably I

56:42don't know 15 20 years.

56:43>> Long time.

56:44>> You are an amazing amazing woman and

56:47educator. Are you still doing the

56:49podcast?

56:50>> I'm still doing the podcast. Episode 133

56:53uh released yesterday.

56:54>> Tune into that. It's f fantastic. How do

56:58we get in touch with you?

56:59>> Uh test those breasts.org you can go to

57:01or you can email me at

57:02jvvonestesospreast.org

57:04and I have cards and you guys all have

57:06stuff.

57:06>> All right. And this is something that

57:07it's affecting way way way too many

57:10women. Men too.

57:12>> Yes. Men don't talk about you get breast

57:14cancer.

57:15>> Don't talk about that enough. But it's

57:18affecting a lot of women. I I would

57:20imagine raise your hand in this room if

57:22you know someone that has had breast

57:24cancer.

57:25>> A lot.

57:25>> Look at this.

57:28horrible. So, I just um I thank you for

57:31your advocacy. Amazing work. Please

57:33don't stop. It saves lives.

57:35>> Thank you.

57:36>> Madame Mayor,

57:37>> I'll go one better because I've known

57:39Jamie for almost 40 years.

57:41>> What?

57:41>> Um and so we went to high school

57:43together. Um I want to say that um I'll

57:47um have council directed funds. We'll

57:48make a donation to the nonprofit in the

57:51coming agenda items.

57:52>> Thank you. I really Yeah, we do need

57:54funding in order to fly the plane. We

57:56need funding. So,

57:57>> and I'm glad the university has embraced

57:59this. Fantastic. They're an official

58:00club up on

58:01>> Fantastic. So, good.

58:03>> Thank you.

58:04>> All right. Thank you so much,

58:08>> David Shakar. Followed by Ursen Whitten,

58:10followed by Kristen Kennedy.

58:14>> I have to get to

58:19>> Good morning, Madame Mayor.

58:20>> Good morning.

58:21>> And mayor for the day. Welcome. My name

58:24is David Shakar. I'm a independent

58:26artist and uh Mayor, I'm not usually

58:30used to uh public speaking, but I

58:32realize I don't need any notes today

58:35because I am so grateful for you, Mayor

58:38Shivy, uh and council members for making

58:42art legal in Reno, Nevada, Reno

58:44Municipal Code, chapter 5.14 and Reno

58:48Municipal Code 8.13. An artist [snorts]

58:51has a right to exhibit and sell their

58:54own self-created nonutilitarian art in

58:58the public forum. And what also helped

59:01get that going was uh Steve White right

59:04here, this big burly mountain guy who's

59:06a uh an artist and also the winning

59:10plaintiff in the landmark civil rights

59:12of artist case, White versus City of

59:15Sparks. Um so, mayor, I really thank you

59:18for doing that. has benefited my life,

59:21has kept me healthy, has kept uh the

59:24wolf away from the door, so to speak. Uh

59:27and when I looked around here, I saw

59:29there were uh at least three people

59:31whose portraits I have done, and I hope

59:33when I come back again, I could uh make

59:36sure that there's a lot more. Uh so,

59:38mayor, just wanted to thank you. Uh I

59:41noticed that there's been so much

59:42advocacy for the arts today. I think

59:45that's one of the reasons that makes

59:47Reno not just the biggest little city in

59:50all the world, but the best little city

59:53in all the world. The advocacy for the

59:55arts. There's so many people whose lives

59:58have been improved and enhanced. Uh it

1:00:02benefits the city. It benefits

1:00:04everybody. and uh mayor. So, thank you

1:00:07so much

1:00:11>> that we have an amazing arts community

1:00:14and artists from performing arts to

1:00:18visual arts to the, you know, the

1:00:20musical arts, all these incredible

1:00:23initiatives. I just get to ch I just get

1:00:25to root everyone on. So, thank you so

1:00:27much.

1:00:28>> And everyone, you should see his work.

1:00:30He does like are [clears throat]

1:00:32are they caricatures? Is that what they

1:00:34>> um actually they're no formal realistic

1:00:36and I forgot I wanted to mention this as

1:00:39a way to uh express my thankfulness to

1:00:41you. I would love to draw your portrait.

1:00:43I know I've done that before but that

1:00:45was only from photographs and that

1:00:48leaves a lot to be desired and mayor

1:00:52consider having a portrait done in the

1:00:54upcoming year between January 15th and

1:00:57the end of January after the holidays

1:00:59are done. I could contact you. You can

1:01:02contact me. We'll take it from there.

1:01:03>> Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Only

1:01:05if you can make me taller.

1:01:07>> Okay.

1:01:10>> Ursen Whitten followed by Kristen

1:01:12Kennedy, followed by Jeff Hurlbert.

1:01:21Good morning. Uh, thank you for allowing

1:01:24me to be here. Uh, as you probably know,

1:01:27I am one of the co-founders of Soulful

1:01:29Seeds with my wife D, who happens to be

1:01:31working today. We are actually

1:01:34approaching our 10-year anniversary of

1:01:36providing healthy food to people in this

1:01:39community.

1:01:42Part of the value that we add is to give

1:01:44others the opportunity to improve their

1:01:47lives. For example, we work with uh

1:01:50Crossroads participants. Step two,

1:01:53individuals who are in uh the justice

1:01:56court as well and many others who come

1:01:58to our site. I am speaking on behalf of

1:02:01item B23.

1:02:03Councilman Martinez is providing funds

1:02:07to us, something that we can appreciate

1:02:09from each and every one of you. And I'd

1:02:12like to acknowledge uh uh Kathleen

1:02:14Taylor, Councilwoman Taylor, and

1:02:16Anderson as well who have come out to

1:02:18the site and actually supported us as as

1:02:22well. One of the things we provide to

1:02:25the community is same day work and pay.

1:02:28Individuals come out, they work for 6 to

1:02:32eight hours, and they leave with a debit

1:02:34card with $100 on it. There is no

1:02:37shortage of individuals when we announce

1:02:40the opportunity for people to come and

1:02:42they literally do work in the garden

1:02:45associate with individuals they do not

1:02:47know or did not know and I think it's

1:02:49good for the for the community. One of

1:02:51the programs we have is called uh

1:02:54soulful seniors on Friday morning these

1:02:56individuals who are of a certain age

1:02:59which I won't mention actually come and

1:03:01work together. It's not limited to that

1:03:04population but primarily that is what

1:03:06what it's about. So giving giving

1:03:08seniors the opportunity to congregate

1:03:10with each other away from their normal

1:03:13environment.

1:03:15Additionally, we have an arborist

1:03:17program where arborists are trained in a

1:03:20two-year program from a certified

1:03:22national organization to actually

1:03:25provide tree services to the community.

1:03:28And once they go through this program,

1:03:30they are available to the community to

1:03:33in fact support the arborist needs in in

1:03:37this community. As I said, it's a

1:03:39two-year program. We pay them salary as

1:03:42well as benefit as they go through this

1:03:44uh program.

1:03:47As you know, we our our primary focus

1:03:50focus has always been to grow food, give

1:03:53it to others at no cost, and to teach

1:03:56them how to prepare that that food. We

1:03:59deliver food to the uh pantries here

1:04:01locally. We have mobile markets,

1:04:04including the caris campus, our place,

1:04:06and the women and children's center of

1:04:08of the Sierra. So even though we are

1:04:11approaching 10 years, we plan on being

1:04:14here for a while and this is an

1:04:16opportunity for me to come and share

1:04:18with you who who where we are, who we

1:04:20are and what we planned on doing uh

1:04:23planning on doing. 3 minutes is not

1:04:25sufficient time to do that, but I'll

1:04:27take whatever time you give me and I

1:04:29appreciate the opportunity to be here.

1:04:32Thank you.

1:04:32>> Okay. Tell everyone how they can get

1:04:33involved

1:04:34>> by me.

1:04:36>> Oh, tell everyone how they can find you.

1:04:39soulful seasnavvada.org.

1:04:42Go there and uh sign up for our

1:04:44newsletter which will give you access to

1:04:47a lot of information. For example, we

1:04:49just had a volunteer uh activity this

1:04:52Saturday, this past Saturday with the

1:04:53Second Baptist Church where they brought

1:04:55their congregation out and just had a

1:04:57real really good time. So, if you want

1:04:59to volunteer, donate, whatever, go to

1:05:02that location and send a message to

1:05:05hello soulfulseas.org.

1:05:07Fantastic work. Fantastic. I love it.

1:05:11There are a few other initiatives in

1:05:13town and I would ask everyone to please

1:05:15look them up. And the reason being is

1:05:17it's very very helpful especially in

1:05:19this time when you go to the grocery

1:05:21store and you're just taken back by the

1:05:24cost of food. And so this really helps

1:05:26when we get involved in these

1:05:27initiatives. It really helps keep the

1:05:29cost down. There are some remarkable

1:05:32things that you can actually buy so much

1:05:34more. It's actually much healthier for

1:05:37you and uh much more affordable when you

1:05:40support these initiatives.

1:05:42>> I'd like to just share one more thing if

1:05:44I can. I know I'm over time, but we are

1:05:46associated with the care chest, the

1:05:48women, the the um

1:05:52the notable music therapy and other

1:05:55organizations who are also doing things

1:05:58to help the community. So, we're working

1:06:00together to for success and not out

1:06:03there just doing things by ourselves.

1:06:05>> Yeah.

1:06:05>> Thank you so much.

1:06:06>> Great job. Great job. Thank you,

1:06:10>> Vice Mayor Martinez. I'm going to have

1:06:11you step in for a minute.

1:06:16>> Kristen Kennedy, followed by Jeff

1:06:17Herbert, followed by Richard Jay.

1:06:23>> Morning. Good morning, Mayor Shei and

1:06:25Mayor for the Day Angel and members of

1:06:27the council. My name is Kristen Kennedy.

1:06:29I'm the executive director of the

1:06:30domestic violence resource center and on

1:06:33behalf of our board of directors and

1:06:35staff, I just want to express our

1:06:36gratitude to Vice Mayor Martinez uh for

1:06:39identifying the domestic violence

1:06:40resource center as one of the recipients

1:06:42of support from discretionary funds.

1:06:44Vice Mayor Martinez, um we're so

1:06:46thankful for your confidence in the work

1:06:48that we do and especially that it's

1:06:50domestic violence awareness month and um

1:06:53you've chosen to invest in survivors and

1:06:56their children and providing safety for

1:06:58them in our community. We recognize that

1:07:01the city's process for approving these

1:07:02funds and we're grateful um to Mayor

1:07:04Shivi and the rest of the council for

1:07:06their consideration of this request. U

1:07:09most of you were with us about a year

1:07:10ago actually when we broke ground on our

1:07:12new building and I'm excited to share

1:07:15with you today that we are at the 50%

1:07:18construction completion milestone. So we

1:07:21have installed 972

1:07:24pieces of steel. Excuse me. Our concrete

1:07:28decks are getting poured this week and

1:07:30we've started the exterior framing.

1:07:32We're super excited to be at this point

1:07:34and in August of 2027, we'll be opening

1:07:37our doors to a brand new 43,000 square

1:07:40foot resource center which will include

1:07:4342 shelter rooms for victims of domestic

1:07:47violence. And I could not be more proud

1:07:50of this community. Um, not only did

1:07:53people listen when we shared the data

1:07:55and we told the stories about the

1:07:56incredible need for this purpose-built

1:07:59safe refuge for people to have the time

1:08:01and the resources to start rebuilding

1:08:02their lives. But this community really

1:08:05just took on our vision as a

1:08:07communitywide vision and the outpouring

1:08:09of support has been so tremendous. We

1:08:12are so close to our fundraising goal.

1:08:15So, I stand here today to say thank you

1:08:17to Reno. Thank you to this council for

1:08:19your leadership, to the Reno Police

1:08:22Department and the Reno Ambassadors for

1:08:24their partnership. I actually just a

1:08:26couple days ago took a hotline call from

1:08:28a Reno city ambassador who was helping a

1:08:31woman in distress. And that warm handoff

1:08:34meant the world to that individual at

1:08:36that moment because she was feeling

1:08:38overwhelmed and didn't know where to go.

1:08:40And that is exactly why this building

1:08:42that we're that we're constructing

1:08:44matters because it will create more

1:08:46opportunities for those moments of

1:08:48connection and safety and hope. And

1:08:50while the steel and the concrete and the

1:08:53square footage and that's very exciting

1:08:54to celebrate, it's really about the

1:08:56people and the new possibilities ahead

1:08:58for people of this community who deserve

1:09:01dignity and a path forward. So, Vice

1:09:04Mayor Martinez, thank you again for your

1:09:06generosity, for believing in our

1:09:07mission, and thank you to the city

1:09:09council for your leadership and your

1:09:11continued um partnership. We appreciate

1:09:14it. Thank you.

1:09:16>> Thank you,

1:09:19>> Jeff Hurlebert, followed by Richard Jay,

1:09:21followed by Valerie Truce.

1:09:25[clears throat]

1:09:30Good morning, [clears throat]

1:09:30Vice Mayor Martinez, city council

1:09:32members, and city manager. Uh, my name

1:09:35is Jeff Herbert, and I'm here today to

1:09:37discuss again the proposed dog park at

1:09:39Demani Ranch Park. I want to give you an

1:09:41update on where things stand with the

1:09:43park. As I mentioned before, I was told

1:09:45by the parks department that the

1:09:46contract to build the park has been

1:09:48cancelled. As of today, there are still

1:09:50over 100 steel fence posts concreted in

1:09:52the ground. I'm still waiting for

1:09:54answers about how much the original

1:09:56contractor has been paid or is owed and

1:09:59how much remains of the original not to

1:10:00exceed $28,000 contract. Whatever funds

1:10:04remain should be directed toward

1:10:05restoring the park. Since the start of

1:10:08the dog park construction and especially

1:10:09since the work has stopped, the

1:10:11condition of the grass has severely

1:10:13deteriorated. So, what's next? I

1:10:16understand the city is redesigning the

1:10:18dog park, moving it away from adjacent

1:10:20homes and significantly reducing its

1:10:22size.

1:10:23>> [snorts]

1:10:23>> The new layout would also place the

1:10:25entrance next to the children's play

1:10:26structure. That raises many concerns

1:10:28that won't fit into my three minutes

1:10:30today. Along with the smaller footprint,

1:10:32the redesign will include vinylcoated

1:10:34chainlink fence in the conditional

1:10:37approval letter received by the city

1:10:39from the Demani Ranch Architectural

1:10:40Landscape Committee dated September

1:10:4217th, 2026. It states, and I quote,

1:10:45"Chainlink fence is encouraged for

1:10:47sports fields and courts, but dog dog

1:10:50parks are not mentioned in the PUB

1:10:53section B common open space standards,

1:10:56page 122 of the Demani Ranch phase 2

1:10:59residential design standards handbook."

1:11:01It also states, and I quote, "We

1:11:03recognize a vinyl coated chain link

1:11:05fence is permitted under section 3.14.7

1:11:09of the non-residential design standards

1:11:11in the PUB handbook. However,

1:11:14vinylcoated chain link or vinylcoated

1:11:17chain link with plastic slats may be

1:11:19used in limited discretet areas subject

1:11:21to ALC approval. Nothing about this dog

1:11:24park is limited or discreet. It is

1:11:26literally in the middle of the park.

1:11:29So, my questions for you today are, why

1:11:32is the city resubmitting plans to the

1:11:34ALC with fencing material that has

1:11:37already been denied by the ALC? Is there

1:11:40a lobbying effort going on with the ALC

1:11:42to get them to approve the fencing this

1:11:43time around? Are they hoping the ALC

1:11:46overlooks it? Even if the ALC were to

1:11:50give a stamp of approval on the

1:11:51resubmitt, is the city required to

1:11:54follow the city approved PUD handbooks

1:11:57regulations. These are legitimate

1:11:59questions and they do deserve answers.

1:12:02I believe it's time to scrap this

1:12:03project, remove the steel post, stop

1:12:07spending additional money on redesign,

1:12:09and put the time, money, and resources

1:12:12into repairing Demani Ranch Park and

1:12:15restoring the grass for the entire

1:12:17community to enjoy. Thank you for your

1:12:19time.

1:12:20>> Thank you.

1:12:22>> And I also have a submitti

1:12:25Ranch Architectural Landscape Review

1:12:27Committee uh dated September 17th, 2026.

1:12:31Yeah, if you'd like to give it to clerk,

1:12:32we can make it part of the public

1:12:33record. Thank you.

1:12:38>> Richard J, followed by Valerie Truce,

1:12:40followed by Greg Bachelder.

1:12:44>> Good morning, Richard [clears throat] J.

1:12:46for the record. Morning, Madame Mayor,

1:12:49Vice Mayor, council members, and city

1:12:52manager. For several of you, this will

1:12:55be my final time I'm in front of you. I

1:12:58want to sincerely thank you for all the

1:12:59support you've shown over the years to

1:13:02our committee and look forward to

1:13:04working with the new incoming mayor and

1:13:06council members. When reviewing my past

1:13:08notes, I realized I first addressed this

1:13:11council back in 2011 regarding critical

1:13:14needs for athletic fields in our city.

1:13:16In 2012, with the invaluable assistance

1:13:19of council members Farza and Ayazi, we

1:13:22secured funding to demolish the old

1:13:25baseball fields and swimming pool at

1:13:27Moana Stadium. Through combined public

1:13:29and private efforts, we were able to

1:13:31successfully build new fields. The Mayor

1:13:34Colon Grass soccer tournament in June of

1:13:362012 remains a cherished memory for many

1:13:39of us. And unfortunately, Mayor Hillary

1:13:41can't be here because I was going to

1:13:42talk about how watching her dribble

1:13:45through the little kids was absolutely

1:13:46amazing. Those kids are now young

1:13:49adults. For 12 years, Moana has served

1:13:52our community well. However, as we

1:13:54anticipated from the start, we were

1:13:56going to lose 30% of those fields to the

1:13:58badly needed swimming pool there. While

1:14:00we have developed Cyan Park and a little

1:14:03uh retrofitting some other parks, we

1:14:05have yet to build any major complex.

1:14:07Today, Wo County lacks a single major

1:14:10soccer complex, lacrosse complex with

1:14:13more than three full-size fields. We are

1:14:15missing out on large tournaments that

1:14:17bring out of state teams in. For

1:14:19example, we recently hosted a 50 team

1:14:24tournament from California for NorCal US

1:14:26friendly games. Because we lacked a

1:14:29centralized complex, every one of those

1:14:32games had to be held in Carson City.

1:14:34that represents a direct loss of gaming

1:14:37tax, sales tax, lodging tax, and

1:14:40economic business for our activity and

1:14:43community. We have long advocated for

1:14:45new fields and the fact that we need 50.

1:14:48Every day we wait is another day of

1:14:50wasted revenue and tax revenue that we

1:14:52need. Fortunately, this has been a

1:14:55landmark year for new field development.

1:14:58The Jay Resorts are already proving

1:15:01successful. Pembrook Flatfields are

1:15:04fully designed now. Mil Street is 50%

1:15:07design. When designing these fields, we

1:15:10account for

1:15:12120 by 80 fields, 10 fields. But when we

1:15:15reconfigure for smaller fields, we can

1:15:18get 18 fields. We can apply this

1:15:21strategy to both complexes and host

1:15:23between 35 and 40 fields out there

1:15:26providing room tax, sales tax, gas tax.

1:15:30To wrap it up, to ensure these fields

1:15:33are managed properly, I strongly

1:15:35recommend that we allow Reno Sports

1:15:37Association to manage the permitting of

1:15:39these fields. Thank you very much and

1:15:41have a great day.

1:15:43>> Thank you.

1:15:46>> Valerie Truce, followed by Greg

1:15:47Bachelder, followed by Nicole Flangis.

1:15:58Gosh, I haven't done this in a long

1:16:00time. Good morning, vice mayor and city

1:16:03council. My name is Valerie Truce. I'm

1:16:06here to comment on the current plan for

1:16:07changes to Demani Park in South Reno.

1:16:10Years ago, I and several others from my

1:16:13neighborhood spoke in front of this DAS

1:16:15many times, voicing concerns for the

1:16:18Dolan and Daybreak and Talis Valley East

1:16:21subdivisions or developments in South

1:16:24Reno. While others voiced concerns about

1:16:27traffic, environmental issues, and

1:16:30horses, my concern was always for

1:16:32families and where they would play. I

1:16:35have repeated that question many times

1:16:38over the last 10 years. I began by

1:16:40asking Reno Direct for information on

1:16:42future parks. I've spoken with folks in

1:16:45the parks department about the poor

1:16:46quality of our existing facilities. I've

1:16:50met privately with Devon Ree to voice my

1:16:53concerns. I've messaged with Naomi Der

1:16:56about our parks only to be told there

1:16:58was no money for parks,

1:17:01but the city had granted the wild horse

1:17:03folks about a million dollars for the

1:17:06protection of wild horses.

1:17:08I've spoken with Brandy Anderson

1:17:10countless times about my concerns for

1:17:12parks with shade, water features, and

1:17:15appropriate play equipment.

1:17:17Can you imagine my surprise to hear

1:17:20there was money for parks, but it was

1:17:22going to be spent on a dog park?

1:17:26I have always had dogs, but have been

1:17:28cautioned by vets to not take my fur

1:17:30babies to dog parks. According to our

1:17:33vet, dog parks are unsafe due to huge

1:17:36concerns for dogs who are unvaccinated

1:17:39and poorly socialized. Besides, we have

1:17:42a double dog park, places for both small

1:17:45and large dogs to play at Cyan Park just

1:17:49one mile away that is lightly used.

1:17:53Meanwhile, let's take a look at what we

1:17:56currently have at Deonti Park, an

1:17:59eyesore and rarely used work center from

1:18:03Renown for adults only.

1:18:07large bunches of tall grasses where

1:18:09wasps love to nest instead of equipment

1:18:12for children to play with. We have four

1:18:15swings. One piece of equipment that is

1:18:19completely inappropriate for children of

1:18:21any age and a play structure that

1:18:23registers over 100 degrees in the summer

1:18:27and one, count them, one shade structure

1:18:31for families to party.

1:18:34This is what we have for the thousands

1:18:36of families who live south of Simbo

1:18:38Parkway. My neighborhood alone just east

1:18:41of Rio Wrangler on the hillside has

1:18:43almost 600 homes. The Monty Park is our

1:18:47only public place to play. As with many

1:18:50neighborhoods, we deal with motorized

1:18:51cycles ridden by children who have no

1:18:53idea what the rules of the road are,

1:18:55endangering themselves and others.

1:18:57children who have taken to the roads

1:18:59because there are no recreational

1:19:01facilities to keep them otherwise

1:19:03occupied.

1:19:04And we're going to fix the situation by

1:19:06adding a dog park. Thank you so much,

1:19:11Greg Bachelder, followed by Nicole

1:19:13Flangis, followed by Lisa Hill via Zoom.

1:19:22Thank you for your uh time and

1:19:23attention. I'm uh Greg Bachelder. Uh I'm

1:19:26a volunteer professional ski instructor

1:19:28at Sky Tavern. I'm here to urge you on

1:19:31behalf of uh Sky Tavern's lease

1:19:33extension uh agenda item B14.

1:19:37I learned to ski at at Sky Tavern many

1:19:40decades ago. Um back then it was a city

1:19:43program. I rode the the school buses up

1:19:45there and the city ran the the program.

1:19:49Um

1:19:50I moved away uh joined the military and

1:19:53was gone for about 25 years.

1:19:56When I came back, wife, two girls,

1:19:59couldn't find a job and all that, but we

1:20:02we decided to put our our girls into Sky

1:20:05Tavern. I volunteered for the program

1:20:07and was urged to become a professional

1:20:09instructor. Getting out of the military,

1:20:12sometimes we lack a purpose and Sky

1:20:15Tavern provided that for me um with it.

1:20:19My girls went on to to be very

1:20:21successful. They joined their race team.

1:20:23They then uh each captained Reno High's

1:20:27ski team and both made the regional

1:20:29all-star team. Um I myself uh as a

1:20:32professional instructor

1:20:34continued on and had opportunities

1:20:36because of the training that Sky Tavern

1:20:39uh gave me. My story is not unique.

1:20:41There are many veterans that I know uh

1:20:43up at Sky Tavern who have that exact

1:20:45same story. um getting out of the

1:20:48military, needing something to do, and

1:20:50Sky Tavern provides a community for

1:20:53that. There's a select group of of of

1:20:57volunteers who give their time to make

1:21:00those programs successful.

1:21:02Uh that that community uh really uh has

1:21:06grown over the years. Sky Tavern now has

1:21:09a mountain bike program and there's room

1:21:11for future expansion. Just a huge

1:21:14success story. Sky Tavern. It's in and

1:21:17the junior ski program have been around

1:21:19for over 75 years. The the ski area

1:21:22itself is closer to a hundred if you

1:21:25look at at the history and I'm sure some

1:21:27others can uh relate the exact expansion

1:21:30to you. Uh I'd like to urge your support

1:21:33of the lease extension item B14 for you.

1:21:36I would also suggest that this council

1:21:38consider in the future uh use of their

1:21:41discretionary funds or even maybe a

1:21:43budget line in the parks and wreck to

1:21:46help support this community asset. Thank

1:21:48you.

1:21:48>> Thank you so much. Can we see you up

1:21:51there?

1:21:51>> I'll be up there.

1:21:52>> Okay, good.

1:21:55>> Nicole Flangis, followed by Lisa Hill

1:21:57via Zoom, followed by Casey Maderas.

1:22:04Good morning, Mayor and Council members.

1:22:06Um, my name is Nicole Flangis and I am

1:22:08here today representing the Nevada

1:22:09Outdoor Business Coalition in support of

1:22:12agenda item B14, the proposed lease

1:22:14amendment extending Sky Tavern's

1:22:16allowable lease to a maximum of 99

1:22:18years. The Nevada Outdoor Business

1:22:20Coalition brings together businesses,

1:22:22recreation user groups, and partners

1:22:24across Nevada's outdoor recreation

1:22:25industry. We work to strengthen the

1:22:27outdoor economy, expand access to

1:22:29recreation, and support stewardship of

1:22:31places that make these experiences

1:22:33possible. And we do that through

1:22:34advocacy. We do it through programming.

1:22:36We do it through events all throughout

1:22:37the state of Nevada. Um, one of our core

1:22:40priorities though is protecting

1:22:41recreation areas because the value they

1:22:43bring to our communities and to our

1:22:45economy. Sky Tavern demonstrates that

1:22:47value by introducing young people and

1:22:48families to outdoor activities year

1:22:50round. Um, while building confidence,

1:22:52practical skills, and a lasting

1:22:54connection to the outdoors. Its impact

1:22:56extends to education programs

1:22:58coordinated through Wo County School

1:23:00District that help students learn beyond

1:23:01the classroom. And the reason I know

1:23:03this is because I was one of those

1:23:04students. I experienced one of those

1:23:06programs myself as a sixth grader here

1:23:08um in Wo County. I learned snow survival

1:23:12skills directly after learning about the

1:23:14Donner party, which was really

1:23:15something. Um but we got to go up

1:23:17[laughter] um and we got to do snow

1:23:19survival hands-on learning at Sky

1:23:21Tavern. And opportunities like that help

1:23:23young people to feel more capable

1:23:24outdoors and they leave a lasting

1:23:26impression well beyond a single field

1:23:28trip. Extending the lease supports

1:23:30long-term planning and investment in Sky

1:23:32Tavern facilities and programs and

1:23:34ensures future generations can access

1:23:35outdoor experiences like I did that

1:23:37inspire stewardship, create skills, and

1:23:40strengthen our communities. I appreciate

1:23:42the community's continued partnership

1:23:44and I respectfully urge you to um

1:23:47approve item B14 so future generations

1:23:49can benefit from the same opportunities

1:23:51that help shape my connection to the

1:23:52outdoors. Thank you.

1:23:53>> I love that. Nicole, right?

1:23:55>> Yeah. Um, quickly tell us one thing that

1:23:57you learned about the Donner party that

1:23:58surprised you the most.

1:24:00>> Oh my gosh. Well, I mean, I didn't know

1:24:01the story of the Donner party. It wasn't

1:24:03a classic thing talked about in my

1:24:04household, but we went up and we went to

1:24:06where the Donner party was. Um, and so

1:24:09that was like very much a learning

1:24:10process. But then what was fun is we

1:24:12came back and the whole thing was about,

1:24:14okay, what skills can you learn as a

1:24:16Nevada resident so this never happens to

1:24:18you? Um, so we went up to Sky Tavern,

1:24:20built snow enclosures, learned how to

1:24:22build a fire um, in a snowy environment

1:24:25and how you put air holes so you don't

1:24:26accidentally suffocate. It was a very

1:24:29comprehensive program. Um, but I

1:24:31remember it and it's my two truths and a

1:24:32lie when I'm outside of the state is to

1:24:33tell people about that. So, um, it's

1:24:35very fun.

1:24:36>> Well, next time I'm in the mountains,

1:24:37I'm bringing you.

1:24:38>> Okay.

1:24:38>> Thank you.

1:24:39>> Thank you.

1:24:40>> Thank you.

1:24:42>> Lisa Hill via Zoom followed by Casey

1:24:44Maderas, followed by Ian Anderson.

1:24:46>> Okay. Hi, Lisa. Can you hear us?

1:24:49>> Um, can you hear me?

1:24:51>> I can hear you.

1:24:52>> Oh, good. Lisa Hill, for the record, I

1:24:55my comment today and mayor and uh all

1:24:58the council members, my comment today is

1:25:01we need to formalize a better process

1:25:03for solving the many complex problems

1:25:05that we face such as climate change,

1:25:08land use development, use of AI, such as

1:25:13largecale surveillance technology. We

1:25:17need a process that's rooted in the

1:25:19local community with the involvement of

1:25:21the local community that includes

1:25:24ethical behavior, accountability, and

1:25:27transparency free of influence from

1:25:30people and money that come from

1:25:31elsewhere. For example, there are two

1:25:34items today in particular, items C1 and

1:25:38D1 regarding the approval of a 22

1:25:40million8-year Axon contractor

1:25:42surveillance technology and the use of

1:25:45skyways in downtown. Both of these items

1:25:48are wildly unpopular with the local

1:25:51community. Before any money or decisions

1:25:53are made about these two items, we me

1:25:57and what we want to hear today from you

1:26:00is what is the problem you are trying to

1:26:03solve?

1:26:05What are the alternatives that you

1:26:07considered?

1:26:09[snorts] What is the evidence that said

1:26:11proposal will actually solve the

1:26:14problem? And what independent

1:26:17accountability,

1:26:18monitoring, and consequences for lack of

1:26:22deliverance will be built into the

1:26:24approval process rather than added as an

1:26:28afterthought or even absent. And then

1:26:32what are the ethics of the said vendors?

1:26:34For example, in 2022, Axon, their own

1:26:39AI, their own ethics board resigned

1:26:41after they pursued taser equipped drones

1:26:44without without their consultation and

1:26:47the questionable use of facial

1:26:49recognition.

1:26:51Um, I'd also like to know uh what is the

1:26:54track record of the J Resort developer

1:26:56in terms of following through on some of

1:26:58the promises that they've made to our

1:27:00community.

1:27:02And so we, the people who live here,

1:27:04want to be a part of the process. And my

1:27:06request is that you address these

1:27:08questions today clearly,

1:27:11transparently, and hold the decision

1:27:14until better involvement of the local

1:27:17community, residents, civil rights

1:27:19organizations,

1:27:20um, and others have had a chance to

1:27:23weigh in on these very complex and, um,

1:27:28life-changing decisions. Thank you for

1:27:30your attention and time.

1:27:32>> All right. Thanks, Lisa.

1:27:36>> Casey Maderos, followed by Ian Anderson,

1:27:39followed by Joanna Draos.

1:27:43>> Good morning, Madame Mayor and Council

1:27:45members. My name is Casey Maderos and I

1:27:47am representing Jaywood Raw Elementary

1:27:49School PTO. We are raising funds as of

1:27:53the 20. I'm begging you to approve. Um,

1:27:56we're trying to raise funds for our

1:27:57shave structure for our prek

1:27:59kindergarten area. This is not only for

1:28:02our students but for our staff members

1:28:04and teachers as well who help our

1:28:06children through their life expecties

1:28:10especially learning. Um, unfortunately

1:28:14this we are lacking a lot of shade in

1:28:16this area. We have 150 students

1:28:19including three strategies classes.

1:28:22Unfortunately, a lot of people do not

1:28:23know what strategies is. It's kids with

1:28:26autism, learning disabilities, sensory

1:28:28seeking disabilities, and needs. Um,

1:28:32unfortunately, one of my children is

1:28:34autistic. So, this is hard.

1:28:37>> You're okay. Just take your time. Take

1:28:40your time. You got this.

1:28:47>> They're not able to communicate when

1:28:48they're hot. They're not able to

1:28:50communicate when they're over

1:28:52stimulated. They're not able to tell

1:28:54you, "I'm overheating. I'm sick because

1:28:57of the heat." So, what they're doing is

1:28:59they're hiding under slides, which is

1:29:01the only shade that they have,

1:29:05because they can't communicate like a

1:29:07normal child does.

1:29:10So, I'm here to represent these children

1:29:12who do not have a voice, especially the

1:29:16little ones, even kindergarteners, who

1:29:18are still learning. Not just the three

1:29:20strategies classes. We're asking you to

1:29:22approve B20 because it will make a huge

1:29:26difference in their lives. It'll make

1:29:27them excited to come and learn and be

1:29:29able to play and spend time with their

1:29:31peers outside without worrying about

1:29:34being overheated, over censored,

1:29:36everything. It'll help the teachers pro

1:29:39protect them as well from one of our

1:29:41teachers had melanoma removed a year

1:29:44ago.

1:29:45>> So, it's not only our students. This is

1:29:48a big need in a lot of schools. I'm only

1:29:50unfortunately representing Jaywood Raw

1:29:52Elementary School because my two boys do

1:29:54go to this school. Um it is strongly

1:30:00strongly needed. Um not only for them,

1:30:04but we really appreciate you and

1:30:07appreciate your understanding of our

1:30:08kids and our future because they are our

1:30:11future. And we if without their voices,

1:30:14we're parents and teachers. where their

1:30:17voice is. So, I'm here on behalf of the

1:30:20school and not only them but my kids.

1:30:23>> Well, they would be very, very proud of

1:30:25you. Great job. Fantastic.

1:30:27>> Madame Mayor.

1:30:29>> Yes.

1:30:29>> If I may, um, first of all, I wanted to

1:30:31commend um, Council Member Anderson

1:30:33because on our agenda, she has money for

1:30:36the shade structure. But going beyond

1:30:38that, you know, trying to build

1:30:40something like that with thousand dollar

1:30:42donations is so difficult. And given

1:30:45that the legislature adopted a new law

1:30:48uh requiring shade, shade structures,

1:30:51trees, heat mitigation, I think that I

1:30:54would love to see the council uh a

1:30:56letter um be prepared with a resolution

1:30:58from the council to the school district.

1:31:01They just built JW Raw School. They

1:31:05adopted bonds. They could have built

1:31:07>> Did that get missed?

1:31:08>> No, it wasn't missed. They made

1:31:10conscious decisions not to do it just

1:31:12like they made conscious decisions not

1:31:14to put in the pedestrian safety stuff

1:31:16which then the city had to step up and

1:31:18work with them to get in all the

1:31:20pedestrian safety stuff. So, um I really

1:31:23think that it's time I went and

1:31:25testified already at the school district

1:31:27in support of a couple of the members

1:31:29had initiatives to install trees and

1:31:31playground equipment. And I just think

1:31:33it's time that the council took a stand

1:31:36and encouraged the school district to

1:31:38incorporate that. They're already

1:31:40building multi-million dollar

1:31:42structures. They can certainly add trees

1:31:44and shade structure while they're doing

1:31:45it. So, I'd love to see that on a future

1:31:47agenda item. I'll bring it up later, but

1:31:49I thank you for being here.

1:31:50>> Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you.

1:31:52>> We appreciate it.

1:31:53>> Thank you,

1:31:54>> Council Member Dur. will be happy to

1:31:55know that at the capital Funds

1:31:57Protection Committee, which Vice Mayor

1:31:58Martinez and I serve on, we've asked for

1:32:02them to come back to us with a

1:32:03presentation about sort of why the

1:32:05budgetary process has not allowed that

1:32:07and for us to maybe rep prioritize our

1:32:10capital fund so that we can do an

1:32:12evaluation of every school and its needs

1:32:14for shade and playground equipment. And

1:32:16so that will be on our agenda in uh late

1:32:20November. And so I'll update you uh

1:32:22after that. But that the goal is to not

1:32:25build schools that have incomplete um

1:32:27you know playgrounds. You need those

1:32:29things. And so it's been a strange thing

1:32:31to find that they haven't been done. And

1:32:32so we're kind of working behind the

1:32:34scenes and through that um committee to

1:32:37rep prioritize our capital projects

1:32:40committee to make allocations to that

1:32:43>> and maybe we can support you as a whole

1:32:45council in that because I know it's a

1:32:46multi- uh organizational committee and

1:32:49I'd love to help you get that message

1:32:51out. So thank you. just one mom, so I

1:32:53can only do so much.

1:32:54>> You're one big brave mom speaking on

1:32:56behalf of all the other moms. So,

1:32:59fantastic job. I'm going to put you in

1:33:00touch also with our access board.

1:33:02>> That would be a really great recess uh

1:33:05resource for you.

1:33:06>> Okay.

1:33:06>> And I think um provide a lot of

1:33:09emotional support too because we could

1:33:11all use it.

1:33:12>> Especially these little ones who have no

1:33:15voice.

1:33:15>> Oh, bless you.

1:33:17>> Perfect. Thank you so much. Thank you

1:33:18for being here today.

1:33:19>> Great job.

1:33:22Ian Anderson, followed by Joanna Draos,

1:33:24followed by Thomas Powell.

1:33:28>> Good morning, Madame Mayor and City

1:33:30Council members. Thank you for your

1:33:32time.

1:33:33>> Uh, I wanted to just speak briefly about

1:33:35the Reno uh Pembroke Fields project on

1:33:38the corner of uh Pemroke and Veterans.

1:33:41There's 95 acres there that the city

1:33:42identified several years ago as a

1:33:44potential place for fields, playing

1:33:46fields to go, flat fields for soccer,

1:33:48flag football, lacrosse, and things like

1:33:50that. Um, it's gone through a series of

1:33:52iterations about how to to start that

1:33:54project. Uh, Reno Youth Sports

1:33:56Association, which is a nonprofit made

1:33:58up of, uh, all of the youth sports uh,

1:34:01groups in town, um, allocated $350,000

1:34:05to, uh, hire a consultant to develop a

1:34:08plan for both the development of 10

1:34:11fields, an appropriate number of parking

1:34:12spots at that location, and also a

1:34:14budget so that we would know the cost of

1:34:16that. Um this is a public private

1:34:18partnership that we've done with the

1:34:19city of Reno to advance this and try and

1:34:21move this project forward and we look

1:34:23forward to continuing to work with the

1:34:25city of Reno um as community members to

1:34:28figure out how to fund this once we get

1:34:29all this information. We'll come back

1:34:30when that plan is finalized and we look

1:34:32forward to that. Um uh Mr. Jay spoke

1:34:35earlier about uh sort of the economic

1:34:38impact that this group of fields, 10

1:34:40fields and the 10 fields that are part

1:34:41of the Rock McCarron Park project would

1:34:44allow us in terms of entering into the

1:34:4644 billion dollar youth sports industry

1:34:48by bringing tournaments, both regional

1:34:50and national tournaments to here. Um so

1:34:52I wanted to pivot and sort of speak a

1:34:54little bit about uh sort of the impact

1:34:56on the community and families. Uh I've

1:34:58been a youth lacrosse coach for 15

1:35:00years. I've seen the challenges of uh

1:35:04not only being able to expand your

1:35:06programming enough to meet the needs and

1:35:08the demands that families have for youth

1:35:10sports, but also the impact of traveling

1:35:12to those practices, high stress times

1:35:15after work, trying to get from work and

1:35:17then get all the way across town. So,

1:35:19bringing these these 20 fields 10 at

1:35:21Pembroke and 10 at Rock Creek Park, what

1:35:23that'll do is that'll bring a lot of

1:35:24existing program there and it will open

1:35:26up all of the programming at the local

1:35:28parks and the neighborhoods. So kids

1:35:30that want to enter into and learn about

1:35:32sports can try several sports very

1:35:35easily through their local parks as we

1:35:37backfill into those existing fields with

1:35:40uh programming for especially young

1:35:42kids. So I just wanted to thank you. I

1:35:45look forward to coming back with more

1:35:46information we have and I want to thank

1:35:48both the buildings department and the

1:35:49parks department and their staff working

1:35:51with us to uh get this to get this done

1:35:53and uh I look forward to continued

1:35:55support of the Penroke Field Project.

1:35:57>> All right. Fantastic.

1:35:58>> Thank you very much. Great.

1:36:02>> Joanna Draos, followed by Thomas Powell,

1:36:04and then we have an individual on Zoom

1:36:06with the last four digits of their phone

1:36:08number 4206.

1:36:10>> Good morning, Mayor and City Council. My

1:36:13name is Joanna Dracos. I am the uh city

1:36:16of Reno artist for 2026.

1:36:18>> Yay. Congratulations.

1:36:20I love it. I love it.

1:36:21>> It's such an honor. Um, my solo

1:36:23exhibition, uh, The Audacity of

1:36:25Daydreaming was on display this summer

1:36:27in the Metro Gallery, uh, during the

1:36:29months of July and August. I hope you

1:36:32all got a chance to catch a glimpse of

1:36:34it. The current show on view is my

1:36:36curated group show um, featuring four

1:36:39artists and the title is uh, the first

1:36:41street show abstract painting in Reno,

1:36:44Nevada. I would like to invite all of

1:36:46you and the public to our reception

1:36:48tomorrow night in the Metro Gallery from

1:36:505 to 7:00 p.m. And you'll get a chance

1:36:53to meet me and the artists. Um,

1:36:57thank you to the Arts and Culture

1:36:59Advisory Board and the Reno City Council

1:37:02for my appointment as re Reno City

1:37:04artist. It's been an incredible year

1:37:08and thank you for your support of the

1:37:10arts in Reno. A thriving art scene makes

1:37:13our town a better place to live.

1:37:16>> All right. Thank you so much and

1:37:17congratulations.

1:37:20I hope you're very proud.

1:37:21>> I am very proud as is my family and um

1:37:25everybody. [laughter]

1:37:26Um it it's just I've had the most

1:37:29amazing opportunities this year that

1:37:31would have never came about. But thanks

1:37:34to the city of Reno for supporting

1:37:36individual artists and giving this

1:37:38opportunity um for anyone to apply and

1:37:42and serve for a year.

1:37:44>> Yeah. Fantastic. Um what is the website

1:37:47if you're an artist and you're looking

1:37:49to get involved or projects? What is it?

1:37:53Biggest little arts.

1:37:54>> It's renoculture.com. But Reno, but but

1:37:57online because we've been promoting

1:37:59grants and um different initiatives for

1:38:02artists that they can get paid. Um so I

1:38:05think that that's really important. Just

1:38:07tell everyone how to get involved.

1:38:08>> It's renoculture.com

1:38:10is our website and if you go to that

1:38:12there's a call for artist section that

1:38:13has all kinds of information. We also

1:38:15have a resource page for artists. So, we

1:38:17promote opportunities that we have for

1:38:19artists varying from things like public

1:38:22art projects, city artists, um, murals,

1:38:26etc. And we also promote all of the

1:38:28regional opportunities around here.

1:38:30>> Okay. Love that. But there is something

1:38:31on social media that I've seen.

1:38:33>> Social media. Our social media handle is

1:38:36Reno Big Arts Little City.

1:38:38>> There you go. Reno Big Arts Little City.

1:38:40So, go there, see all of the programs,

1:38:43but there are a lot of grants I noticed

1:38:45right now. So there's money out there to

1:38:48continue to do the arts in our

1:38:50community. So thank you so much.

1:38:52Congratulations. We can't wait to

1:38:54attend.

1:38:57>> Thomas Powell followed by 4206 via Zoom

1:39:01followed by Mario Del Roza.

1:39:04>> Madame Mayor, uh fellow council members,

1:39:06uh if it would Good morning if you'd

1:39:08please. I' I'd prefer to make my

1:39:09comments at B14 as would Fran Weber.

1:39:12>> Okay.

1:39:12>> Is that okay?

1:39:13>> Perfect. Glad you're here. Thank you.

1:39:16>> Um, on Zoom, we have an individual at

1:39:18the last four digits of their phone

1:39:20number 4206.

1:39:22We have allowed you to speak.

1:39:30>> Hello. Um, can you hear me?

1:39:33>> Yes. Can you please state your name for

1:39:34the record?

1:39:36>> Yes. My name is Iris Land

1:39:40and I'm asking for Thank you for having

1:39:42me. Um, I'm asking for a total ban on

1:39:46all the AR ALPR systems.

1:39:50A federal judge recently ruled that the

1:39:52search on an ALPR database is

1:39:55unconstitutional. It is illegal. If

1:39:58police can't search it, then it serves

1:40:00zero stated function logically.

1:40:03I don't understand why a city or county

1:40:06would knowingly enter into contract to

1:40:08do something potentially illegal, but

1:40:10that's exactly what Reno would be doing

1:40:12if we enter into a contract with any

1:40:14ALPR company. This clearly violates our

1:40:18fourth constitutional rights, and it has

1:40:20already been ruled on by a federal

1:40:22judge. Are we wanting to set an example

1:40:25of that to our children and to all the

1:40:27visitors that come to Reno, which we

1:40:29really rely on? Are we wanting to put

1:40:31our city into a vulnerable place of

1:40:33being sued for illegally using and

1:40:36accessing this data? Um, speaking of

1:40:39illegal acts, there have been hundreds

1:40:41of cases already of stalking and

1:40:43harassment by people who have access to

1:40:45these databases. corrupt beliefs, but

1:40:48also the lack of transparency and

1:40:50regulations and who can access these

1:40:52databases nationwide makes it so that

1:40:55any number of entities and people can

1:40:57use it for nefarious reasons and we

1:40:59would not even know that personally does

1:41:01not make me feel any safer. Speaking of

1:41:04lack of transparency, who owns this

1:41:07data? It's not the people owning their

1:41:09own data. By the way, data is the most

1:41:13valuable commodity in the world today.

1:41:15often compared to the 20th century

1:41:17equivalent to oil. Our data is not even

1:41:20owned by the police departments who

1:41:22claim they need this anti-forth

1:41:24amendment right system. It's not

1:41:26[clears throat] the city who pays for

1:41:28for it. It is actually we the people who

1:41:30are paying for it. And yet we are not

1:41:33going to own this data. [clears throat]

1:41:34The companies that you pay for this

1:41:36faulty service will own it. So now we

1:41:39are paying a company to collect their

1:41:40data, one of our most valuable

1:41:42possessions if we still owned it. And we

1:41:45are paying them instead of them paying

1:41:47us. And on top of that, anyone can now

1:41:49access this data very easily, which

1:41:52again is a violation of a fourth

1:41:53amendment constitutional right. These

1:41:55systems have been proven to be very

1:41:57easily hacked into.

1:42:00Um they can utilize it for any reason

1:42:02they want and not any of us would have

1:42:05control over that. I feel like these

1:42:07companies are duping a lot of cities and

1:42:10counties, which is why a lot of

1:42:11contracts are being ended.

1:42:14What else has this been used for?

1:42:16Falsely identifying people, plates, and

1:42:18or car info, they are notoriously

1:42:20inaccurate. Studies show that with

1:42:23plates, it's inaccurate 37% of the time.

1:42:26And a recent study done in Roseville,

1:42:28California, showed inaccuracies 70% of

1:42:31the time. If it was only 5% of the time,

1:42:34that would have equal to millions of

1:42:36times wrong daily nationwide. If you do

1:42:39the math, 70% of the time is billions of

1:42:42inaccuracies. It's even more egregiously

1:42:45inaccurate when it comes to identifying

1:42:46people. While the companies claim the

1:42:49systems do not track people,

1:42:51investigative

1:42:53have shown

1:42:54>> Okay.

1:42:57Mario Delar Roza followed by Deian

1:42:59Radcliffe followed by Joshua Kasakowski

1:43:02via Zoom.

1:43:06>> Good morning, Mayor City Manager,

1:43:09Vice Mayor Martinez, and council

1:43:11members. My name is Mario Dear Rosa,

1:43:14executive director of Latino Arte and

1:43:17Culture. I want to sincerely thank Vice

1:43:19Mayor Miguel Martinez for proposing this

1:43:21donation from his discretionary funds.

1:43:25Thank you for recognizing our work and

1:43:27supporting the families we serve.

1:43:30This contribution will support several

1:43:32of our programs and help cover the cost

1:43:34of presenting cultural events on South

1:43:36Wales Avenue and East Pueblo Street.

1:43:40Sufiest Wales. Our Day of the Dead

1:43:43festival, our bilingual theater and

1:43:46community workshops. We bring people

1:43:49together, celebrate Latino culture, and

1:43:51create opportunities for local artists

1:43:54and small businesses. I also want to

1:43:57share a concern about growing cost of

1:43:59keeping these events accessible. For

1:44:02Feiststone Wales, the maintenance and

1:44:04operation star charge increased from

1:44:07approximately 3,3205

1:44:11to 6,300

1:44:13in 2022, an increase of 91% in that

1:44:17category alone. Meanwhile, our city

1:44:20sponsorship credit decreased from 3,00

1:44:23to 22 2200, a 24%

1:44:28reduction.

1:44:30These chair changes place a substantial

1:44:32burden on our small nonprofit with

1:44:35limited staff and resources. We

1:44:37appreciate the city's investment in

1:44:39protecting barriers. Keeping everyone

1:44:42safe is essential. However, the

1:44:44additional cost of deploying these

1:44:46barriers can threaten the very community

1:44:49events they are intended to protect.

1:44:53Public safety benefits the entire

1:44:55community. We ask the city to consider

1:44:58sharing more of these costs. increasing

1:45:00services service credits or establishing

1:45:03additional assistance for nonprofit

1:45:05cultural events. When our city services

1:45:08bills

1:45:09rise and our credit shrink, we had fewer

1:45:12resources for artists, cultural

1:45:14programs, and community services.

1:45:17Over time, this puts every events like

1:45:20Fest and Wells at risk. We respectfully

1:45:24ask the city council to work with

1:45:26nonprofit organizers and special events

1:45:28staff on a sustainable approach that

1:45:31protects both public safety and access

1:45:33to cultural celebrations.

1:45:36Vice Mayor Martinez, thank you again.

1:45:38Your support makes a meaningful

1:45:39difference. We hope to build on that

1:45:41partnership so these traditions can

1:45:44continue serving Reno for years to come.

1:45:46Thank you.

1:45:51>> Deianne Radcliffe, followed by Joshua

1:45:53Kasakowski via Zoom, followed by Amanda

1:45:55Perch via Zoom.

1:45:58>> Good morning, council members and mayor.

1:46:00Thank you for being here and having this

1:46:02oneway experience called public comment.

1:46:04So, I am Dian Radcliffe. I live in

1:46:06Verdai. We're going to talk about water

1:46:07and the Meridian 12 project. I think

1:46:10this is my third appearance here, so we

1:46:12have some familiar slides. So, we're

1:46:13going to start with irrigation. Um, the

1:46:16submitted documents for the project are

1:46:18on your left. On the upper right is a

1:46:20steamboat with the lateral coming off.

1:46:23And then that's what the steamboat water

1:46:26looks like at different times. So, I'm

1:46:28here because we have met with city staff

1:46:30members. We've met with developer

1:46:32representatives. I've been to every

1:46:34meeting about this for almost the last

1:46:3610 years. So, I have been incredibly

1:46:38engaged. When we met with the developer

1:46:41representatives, they wanted to put one

1:46:42manhole in for literally an 800 foot

1:46:45run, one manhole. I reached out to the

1:46:48city of Reno. They provided this from

1:46:52the public works design manual. So, I'm

1:46:55really asking that the developers for

1:46:58this project do the right thing for the

1:47:01residents. I'm not asking them to build

1:47:03me a house, buy me a house, come clean

1:47:06up my house. I'm asking for them to do

1:47:08the right thing for the residents and

1:47:11for you to make sure that that happens.

1:47:14So, please make developers do this the

1:47:16right way. Okay. So, now we're going to

1:47:18go on to drainage. So, county

1:47:21properties, the spillway, please

1:47:23remember they're going to create a

1:47:25spillway. They're going to have a 36 in

1:47:27pipe that will take that flow that

1:47:30currently comes to their property that

1:47:32will neck up to 42 in. It will go to a 1

1:47:35acre lot which will hold all that water.

1:47:38They will have two 36 inch outlet pipes

1:47:41that will go through a I'll bring

1:47:43pictures next time. This micro little

1:47:45thing onto county drainage that has 18

1:47:48in. That's not the right thing. Again,

1:47:51residents are not asking anything from

1:47:54this developer other than to do the

1:47:56right thing. That is the ask every step

1:48:00of the way. And because you are the

1:48:03entity that will be approving this, my

1:48:05ask to all of you and your staff members

1:48:07is to make them do the right thing. So

1:48:11here's the Truckucky Meadows Regional

1:48:12Drainage Manual. As I said before, water

1:48:15doesn't levitate from the steamboat and

1:48:16truck all the way to the county

1:48:17properties. Nope. We know that's an

1:48:19impossibility. So my ask again is that

1:48:22the right thing happens. Hold developers

1:48:25accountable. Make them do the right

1:48:27thing for residents. Please don't let

1:48:29them put their problem of water onto

1:48:31existing residents. That is not the

1:48:33right thing. I'm here. I've been to

1:48:36every meeting and maybe you see me more

1:48:38than you want to, but my dad worked for

1:48:40the city of Reno. He showed up every

1:48:42single day. Every single day. Again, my

1:48:45ass are small. The company that owns the

1:48:47property is called Taylor Derek Capital.

1:48:50Apparently, they have an office in

1:48:52Henderson or Salt Lake, but Reno's not

1:48:54really on their website. Anyway, thank

1:48:56you so much for your time. Please have

1:48:59the right thing happen for the residents

1:49:01who are here every single day. Thank

1:49:03you.

1:49:04>> I'm gonna send them a letter.

1:49:06>> Great.

1:49:06>> And then I'm gonna uh put you on it.

1:49:09>> Great. That would be wonderful. Thank

1:49:10you.

1:49:10>> Thank you very much.

1:49:12>> Joshua Kos Kasakowski via Zoom followed

1:49:15by Amanda Perch via Zoom followed by

1:49:17Valerie Bishop.

1:49:23>> Thank you. Uh good morning, council

1:49:25members, mayor. Um, and thank you for

1:49:28getting the name right. That was a tough

1:49:29one. Um, I wanted to speak on the topic

1:49:32of Flock, Axen, and ALPRS.

1:49:35Um, I think that I'm with a majority of

1:49:38people when I kind of celebrated when we

1:49:40said, oh, well, Flock is out and that's

1:49:42great. And then, you know, briefly

1:49:46realized like, oh, we're going to be

1:49:47talking about Absson in a couple of

1:49:49days. And here we are. Um,

1:49:52I'd love for this to be just, hey, maybe

1:49:54we shouldn't go with the taser company.

1:49:57Um, which if you don't know, um, Ax's

1:50:00made, uh, a a business out of tasing

1:50:04citizens,

1:50:06but I I feel like then we'd be here in a

1:50:08month having this conversation about

1:50:11Motorola or another company.

1:50:13We're at a place in time where we can't

1:50:15trust AI to take our drive-thru orders.

1:50:18Um, and I'm just unsure what makes it

1:50:22thinks that what makes us think that it

1:50:25can police us. Um,

1:50:29what are we trying to accomplish here? I

1:50:30think I heard earlier in the session and

1:50:32I think that that's an important

1:50:34question to ask. Um, we've seen patterns

1:50:37of abuse through this technology, the

1:50:39use and engagement in this technology.

1:50:42Those things are not limited to flock

1:50:44um, but ALPRs in general. seen ample

1:50:47evidence of them being used outside of

1:50:49their intended purpose and I think that

1:50:51there's a lot to be discussed about uh

1:50:53their intended purpose uh being a

1:50:56significant overstep.

1:50:58I saw lots of people in the room with

1:51:01those lovely yellow shirts and I suspect

1:51:03that they will be speaking more

1:51:04eloquently than mine. Um but I think

1:51:07that it's clear and I just wanted to add

1:51:08my voice to say we don't want more

1:51:10surveillance. We don't want AI policing

1:51:13and I don't think that we will want AOPs

1:51:16in our city. Thank you.

1:51:18>> Oh, thank you very much.

1:51:22>> Amanda Perch via Zoom followed by

1:51:23Valerie Bishop followed by Eddie Lorton.

1:51:28>> And how many do we have to

1:51:29>> Hello. Can you hear me?

1:51:33>> Amanda, we're having trouble hearing

1:51:35you.

1:51:36>> How about now? It's pretty quiet.

1:51:41>> Is that our end?

1:51:43>> No.

1:51:43>> No. Okay.

1:51:44>> It might be my I can talk loud. Can you

1:51:48hear me now?

1:51:49>> No,

1:51:50>> not really.

1:51:53>> Maybe she could call back in a in a

1:51:56different line or something. Maybe.

1:51:59>> Uh,

1:51:59>> okay.

1:52:02>> Amanda,

1:52:03>> I we cannot hear you.

1:52:05>> I'm so sorry. I can't hear you, but

1:52:07we'll keep you in the queue and then try

1:52:10adjusting maybe the volume on your phone

1:52:13or

1:52:15>> Yes, I can come back to you.

1:52:16>> Okay.

1:52:20Uh Valerie Bishop followed by Eddie

1:52:22Lorton followed by a phone number ending

1:52:25in 5620 via Zoom.

1:52:27>> Okay. And I just want to remind everyone

1:52:29if you are here for item C1 um just hold

1:52:32your comments until we get on to that

1:52:35item so that we can continue to move

1:52:38forward and get to the items that you

1:52:40all are here for. So go ahead. Good

1:52:42morning

1:52:43>> mayor and council. I was here on subject

1:52:47the LBC.

1:52:49>> Ma'am, you'll have to move just over.

1:52:51Yeah, there you go. Keep going. Keep

1:52:53going.

1:52:53>> There you go. Now we can hear you.

1:52:54>> All right. Good morning again everyone.

1:52:57I'm Valerie Bishop and for the record I

1:52:59am here regarding the LDC26

1:53:02uh triple019 the hillside 4quare church

1:53:06building.

1:53:08I've attended two other meetings

1:53:09regarding this and I'm sticking to my

1:53:11same story.

1:53:16The physical safety

1:53:19is the biggest concern for me. There's

1:53:22no escape route. Sutro would be the main

1:53:25road or clearacre. Sutro is a dead end

1:53:29with no backup.

1:53:32This build is across from the Sun Villa

1:53:34mobile home park. 300 homes, two gates

1:53:38only for entrance and exit again to

1:53:41Sutra. A two-lane road.

1:53:46Emergency could be anything. Fire,

1:53:48flood, earthquake, hazmat.

1:53:53395 North has built a sound barrier wall

1:53:57completely

1:53:59pinning part of the Sun Villa Park in

1:54:03Before it was a fence. If you had to

1:54:05escape the park, you could at least go

1:54:06to the freeway. Now you can't. Not even

1:54:09a snake can crawl under because this

1:54:10concrete cr bar barrier wall is to the

1:54:13ground. So everybody would still have to

1:54:15be fleeting endlessly to this sutro

1:54:17street which needs to be

1:54:21maybe infrastructure built. The

1:54:24endangerment and well-being of the human

1:54:28life is at risk. I don't think the tax

1:54:31dollars will buy quality of life having

1:54:34this build with residents. I think it's

1:54:37up to 10 parcels per acre. It's a 10

1:54:40acre site. I understand 3.5 of an acre

1:54:45is not under construction.

1:54:48Again, it's the quality of life that

1:54:50this build will impact.

1:54:53That's all I have to say.

1:54:55>> All right. Thank you very, very much.

1:54:57And I believe that's D2, correct?

1:54:59>> Yes.

1:54:59>> Yes. Okay. Thank you,

1:55:03>> Eddie Lorton, followed by 5620 via Zoom.

1:55:07And then we will try Amanda again.

1:55:10>> Good morning. First off, I'd like to say

1:55:14good morning, Miss Shivy.

1:55:15>> Good morning,

1:55:15>> Mrs. Manager. And I would like to get

1:55:18into something and the rest of the

1:55:20council.

1:55:21>> I would like to thank Naomi Der for her

1:55:24service all these years coming up. We're

1:55:26getting close and Hillary. And I wish

1:55:28good luck for Miss Eert and you, Miss

1:55:31Taylor, for the up andcoming election.

1:55:33So, it'll be a new day. And I thank you

1:55:37for your service so much. So, now there

1:55:39was a few things on the agenda that I

1:55:41wanted to talk about. And uh right here,

1:55:45I like the fact that we're extending the

1:55:47lease or hoping to gain the vote on that

1:55:50for the Sky Tavern Ski Lodge. It's great

1:55:53for kids to be out instead of on their

1:55:54phones. I think it's a great thing.

1:55:56>> Isn't that true?

1:55:57>> And you know, there was someone that was

1:55:59supposed to do a commitment for like a

1:56:00hund00 million. So, I hope that gets in

1:56:03the lease, too, so we can check on these

1:56:05things to make sure they're putting the

1:56:07money in. Since we're stepping up doing

1:56:09the 100red-year lease, it'd be great if

1:56:10we could do that. So, it'd be great to

1:56:13see improvements on city-owned property

1:56:16so that the kids can have a great thing

1:56:18in the coming future. So, I appreciate

1:56:20you considering that. I think it's a

1:56:22great thing. Quality of life costs

1:56:24money. And then I'm also glad to see the

1:56:27property disposal program starting to

1:56:29come to light. It's great to see that.

1:56:32It's great to sell city- owned

1:56:33properties. I've been saying it since

1:56:3513, but you know, considering selling

1:56:38off city pieces of property and the

1:56:41execution is where the money's made. So,

1:56:43I hope we get in there and look at every

1:56:45aspect of it and see where the money's

1:56:48at. So, you know, you have an

1:56:49opportunity the city of Sparks doesn't

1:56:51have, the county doesn't have. They

1:56:53don't have all these excess properties

1:56:56that could be sold off, put on the tax

1:56:59roles, pay down high debt. It's just

1:57:02it's a home run for the city. So, I hope

1:57:04you consider that. And there's a few

1:57:06pieces I haven't seen on there for a

1:57:07while that I'm hoping you'll consider

1:57:09that's the biggest ones of all that's

1:57:11not on the tax roles. That is the

1:57:13bowling stadium, the event center, and

1:57:16the ballroom. You know, they keep

1:57:18pulling out bonds and bond debt on these

1:57:20things. In 19 they took a bond out and

1:57:23in 24 they took a bond out and now we're

1:57:26paying giant bond servicing debts. So I

1:57:29think a bad deal was like letting the

1:57:31casinos use the ballroom over there and

1:57:34they get to control all the revenue from

1:57:36there. They don't pay a dime on rent and

1:57:40we're paying the bond servicing debt. So

1:57:41they get to use this gigantic 50 $60

1:57:44million building for free on the citizen

1:57:47while we're footing the bill and they

1:57:48pay the power bill and change out the

1:57:50carpet. That's not right. It's a

1:57:52terrible deal. So in the future, I hope

1:57:54they consider selling these off, putting

1:57:56them on the tax rolls so you can do what

1:57:59you can do for your future. And the

1:58:01thing is this too is, you know, I know a

1:58:04lot of the past decisions haven't been

1:58:06that great from way before and you guys

1:58:08are stuck with this. So, it's hard

1:58:10digging your way out, but here's an

1:58:12opportunity to do some of that. And I

1:58:14think you have a great city manager

1:58:16here. Good lady. She works hard. I know

1:58:19you're going to put your mind to it and

1:58:20get good things done. So, I thank all of

1:58:23you. Good luck in the up andcoming

1:58:24election. And I thank you for your time.

1:58:27Have a great day.

1:58:28>> Well, thank you for the positivity.

1:58:29>> Oh, yes.

1:58:30>> Appreciate it.

1:58:32>> All right. Have a good day.

1:58:33>> All right. You too.

1:58:34>> Thank you.

1:58:34>> Thanks, Eddie.

1:58:365620 via Zoom followed by Darren

1:58:39Galloway. We're still trying to get

1:58:40Amanda on the phone.

1:58:42>> Okay.

1:58:45>> Good morning. Can you all hear me?

1:58:47>> Yes. Please state your name for the

1:58:48record.

1:58:50>> Yeah. My name is Jeff Burroughs for the

1:58:52record. Um, and I'm calling to, um,

1:58:55state my opposition to item P1 for the

1:58:58approval of the Axon contract for $21

1:59:01million,

1:59:03um, to fund ALPRs

1:59:06being installed. Um, you all just

1:59:08cancelled the SWAT contract and I

1:59:11literally heard about this a week ago.

1:59:14Really, really happy that that happened.

1:59:17Really excited. and not even a week

1:59:19passes and we're already discussing

1:59:22whether you all want to approve another

1:59:25contract for AI surveillance technology

1:59:28and we do not want it here. Um the

1:59:32people in the city of Reno do not want

1:59:34to be surveiled. It violates our fourth

1:59:37amendment constitutional rights and

1:59:40we've already seen it go so wrong. The

1:59:42RFPD is already facing a high-profile

1:59:45lawsuit where 170 people were wrongfully

1:59:49arrested by RPD using AI surveillance

1:59:52technology. We do not want our money

1:59:56going towards a surveillance technology

1:59:58that is errorprone that does not reduce

2:00:01crime. And we want our money to be going

2:00:05towards funding housing, food, schools,

2:00:09health care, things that are actually

2:00:11going to reduce crime and prevent crime

2:00:15and not be reactionary and yeah, be

2:00:19violating the 14th amendment rights of

2:00:22your constituents here. So, please do

2:00:25not approve this contract with Axen and

2:00:29do not continue this um train of

2:00:33surveilling your [clears throat]

2:00:33citizens. Thank you.

2:00:36>> Okay. Thank you so much. Um and again,

2:00:38I'm just going to reiterate item C1,

2:00:41Madame Clerk.

2:00:45>> Okay. Thank you.

2:00:45>> Yes, we don't have the ability to ask

2:00:47them which item. Um Darren Galloway

2:00:51followed by Amanda Perch via Zoom

2:00:53followed by Casey Kadik via Zoom.

2:00:56>> Okay. Good morning.

2:00:58>> Good morning.

2:01:00For the record, my name is Darren

2:01:02Galloway.

2:01:04Two weeks ago on October 7th, I stood at

2:01:06this podium and placed 48 copies of a

2:01:08verified financial audit onto the public

2:01:10record. Okay.

2:01:13documenting First Amendment rights and

2:01:14policy 102 violations to which I've

2:01:17received no response of accountability

2:01:19and an indefensible $2.9 million TIFF

2:01:23diversion to Valio.

2:01:27To verify how this body and

2:01:28administrative leadership handled those

2:01:30facts, I filed a targeted public records

2:01:33request under NRS chapter 239 for just

2:01:3672 hours of internal communications.

2:01:40Two days ago, the city clerk's office

2:01:42handed me their official answer. They

2:01:44cited staffing constraints and a

2:01:46backlog. They declared that the public

2:01:48record cannot the public cannot see

2:01:50those emails until November 6th.

2:01:52November 6th. Okay, that's 3 days after

2:01:55the polls close.

2:01:58Do not insult the intelligence of the

2:02:00people of Reno by calling this a

2:02:01clerical backlog. This is an election

2:02:04protection racket. A basic search across

2:02:07five email accounts for a three-day

2:02:09window does not take a month. You kicked

2:02:12this release past November 3rd because

2:02:14you know that if the t taxpayers read

2:02:16what was said behind closed doors when

2:02:18the re receipts hit the deis, the

2:02:20council's political viability evaporates

2:02:23before the polls close.

2:02:26On official city podcast, city manager

2:02:28Jackie Bryant sits comfortable pleading

2:02:30financial poverty to our citizens,

2:02:33whining about state sales tax formulas

2:02:35and falsely claiming that they you have

2:02:37no levers to pull and only control

2:02:40expenses. You threaten budgets of our

2:02:42police officers and firefighters and you

2:02:45hit workingclass families with sewer

2:02:47utility rate increases. Yet at this

2:02:49exact same day as you wear a second hat

2:02:52as the redevelopment agency and

2:02:54effortlessly siphon $2.9 million in

2:02:57local property taxes and to hand

2:03:00corporate welfare to to private luxury

2:03:03developers. You preach sacrifice to the

2:03:06taxpayers while serving a banquet to

2:03:08your favorite favored donors.

2:03:12Public office in this republic is a

2:03:14sacred public trust, not a cartel for

2:03:17developer subsidies. Public records do

2:03:19not belong to the city manager, the

2:03:21redevelopment agency, or the city

2:03:23council. They belong to the sovereign

2:03:25citizens of Nevada.

2:03:28If your integrity cannot survive the

2:03:31electorate reviewing your official

2:03:32communications before they cast their

2:03:34ballots, then you have no moral or

2:03:36constitutional authority to represent

2:03:38them.

2:03:40You can attempt to bury the emails until

2:03:43until November 6th, but the financial

2:03:45record is already public and the voters

2:03:48are going to wake up to this. And on

2:03:50November 3rd, the people of Reno will

2:03:51hold this administration fully

2:03:53accountable.

2:03:55I yield the rest of my time.

2:03:57>> All right. Thank you. And um just from

2:04:00our city attorney's office, I believe

2:04:01there is a law and a timeline that those

2:04:04need to be turned over. Correct.

2:04:06>> We're at nine days.

2:04:09Okay. All right. Um Darren,

2:04:13>> correct? Okay. So, I will

2:04:17because I think is it what's the

2:04:19timeline by law?

2:04:20>> Generally, there's a uh and for the

2:04:22record, John Shipman City attorney's

2:04:23office, there's a a period of time like

2:04:25a 5day we have to get back to the

2:04:27requester in terms of what it's going to

2:04:29take to um gen generate the return on

2:04:33the request. Um and then some records

2:04:36are online and are easy to do and then

2:04:39other records require more you know

2:04:41searching or the volume or that. So

2:04:44those estimates are based upon the

2:04:46clerk's um best estimate given the

2:04:49volume of all the records requests that

2:04:51people are asking for. Um and there's a

2:04:54there is a cue from what I understand

2:04:56too in terms of how they get answered.

2:04:57So, um, there's not a hard date until,

2:05:01you know, we know we have the records

2:05:03and then we can deliver them. So,

2:05:06>> I requested a rolling release of those

2:05:08documents as well because there's no

2:05:10reason to wait.

2:05:11>> They can produce them or they can submit

2:05:13them as they produce them. I also expect

2:05:16a formal response to the First Amendment

2:05:19violations and the policy 102 violations

2:05:22that I outlined on the 7th.

2:05:24>> Okay. All right. I will look into it

2:05:26because I believe by law they have to

2:05:27get back to you in a certain time.

2:05:29>> Law prevails.

2:05:31>> Thank you. All right, madame clerk.

2:05:35>> Okay, I believe we have Amanda Perch on

2:05:37the phone. Amanda, can you hear us?

2:05:41>> Amanda?

2:05:42>> Yes. Can you hear me

2:05:43>> better?

2:05:44>> Yes, we can hear you a little bit

2:05:46better.

2:05:47>> Okay. Sorry about that before. Um, good

2:05:50morning everyone. My name's Amanda Per.

2:05:54Um, I'm a resident within walking

2:05:57distance of Demani Ranch Park and I go

2:06:01there a few times a week. Um, I noticed

2:06:04a fence being built and after

2:06:06construction had been ongoing for a

2:06:09couple weeks, I found out from a

2:06:11neighbor that it was going to be a dog

2:06:12park. I was really disappointed to hear

2:06:15this because I was really looking

2:06:17forward to using those hills to go

2:06:19sledding with my family.

2:06:22The park as it now is is useful to

2:06:25everyone, including dogs, and plenty of

2:06:28dogs enjoy playing in the park without

2:06:30the need to fence them in. Fencing a

2:06:33huge area of the park to section it all

2:06:36for single use purposes will detract

2:06:39from our enjoyment of the park. I

2:06:42request that the location of this dog

2:06:44park be moved somewhere else or

2:06:47cancelled entirely. Please don't take

2:06:49away our sledding hills.

2:06:52On another note, I want to thank you for

2:06:55taking the concern of the shade at

2:06:58Jaywood Raw Elementary School seriously

2:07:00since my son will be attending that

2:07:02school in the future and that's another

2:07:05issue. So, thank you for that. And

2:07:07that's all.

2:07:08>> All right. Good job, Amanda. Thank you.

2:07:10>> Thank you, Amanda.

2:07:16Casey Kadik via Zoom, followed by Martha

2:07:18Washington via Zoom, followed by Damen

2:07:20Cole

2:07:27Casey.

2:07:34Okay. Martha Washington via Zoom

2:07:36followed by Damen Cole.

2:07:39>> Hello.

2:07:41>> Is that uh case?

2:07:44[laughter]

2:07:45We'll start with Casey.

2:07:55>> Casey, you need to unmute, please.

2:08:03>> Can you hear me?

2:08:04>> Yes.

2:08:06>> Good morning, council member.

2:08:12>> Casey, you're cutting out.

2:08:28Casey, you're cutting out. Um, I'm going

2:08:30to move on to Martha, but uh, we'll come

2:08:32back to you.

2:08:36>> Martha Washington via Zoom.

2:08:47Martha, you need to unmute, please.

2:08:56Damian Cole.

2:08:59Damian.

2:09:10>> Hello. Good morning, city council.

2:09:12Madame Mayor Damen Cole for the record.

2:09:13So, 3 minutes. Going to try to get a lot

2:09:15done. Haven't heard anything about Shank

2:09:17or the walkway or anything there yet.

2:09:20Um, however, public records request

2:09:23revealed that the two gates on the AT&T

2:09:27portion of the building were

2:09:28unpermitted, meaning that between 2021

2:09:31to 2024, they shouldn't have been there.

2:09:34We don't even know who built those two

2:09:36fences that have the gates after the

2:09:38city saw them, they went ahead and

2:09:40retroactively permitted them, which kind

2:09:42of breaks the point. Um, that's

2:09:45according to uh uh Chris uh who told

2:09:48Phil Corbett this. So, but the problem

2:09:51is that the gates themselves are against

2:09:53code. The gates are only four feet wide.

2:09:56Code says that they need to be 12. So,

2:09:58that means that they still are against

2:10:00code and they were unpermitted for four

2:10:02years. So, uh still have my signatures.

2:10:05Still waiting for word. Haven't heard

2:10:07anything. I want to get to the the

2:10:09camera problem. Um you remember in

2:10:11August we were talking about uh you know

2:10:14people were thinking that the cameras

2:10:16were being brought down by humans

2:10:17shaking the poles, things like that. And

2:10:19I had uncovered I was looking at

2:10:22information. I was trying to find out

2:10:24how come it was happening. And I looked

2:10:27at the descriptions, the details of the

2:10:30documents that Flock used to uh to to

2:10:34market them. Found out a lot of details.

2:10:36They're called breakaway poles. They are

2:10:39prohibited for being used in dense urban

2:10:42environments. They're only supposed to

2:10:43be used for

2:10:45uh for rural highways. And this is

2:10:48because they are built at the bottom

2:10:49with a breakaway point. So if a car

2:10:51smashes into them, the car the pole will

2:10:54fall down and collapse rather than

2:10:56damaging the car. In an urban

2:10:59environment, you're not supposed to do

2:11:00that. That's why it's actually against

2:11:02engineering st standards. So, and the

2:11:05other thing too is in other words that

2:11:08led to one of the reasons how come the

2:11:10poles were shaking which was then

2:11:12causing the screws to slowly unturn

2:11:16which then meant that there was nothing

2:11:17holding the top portion of the pole up

2:11:19which meant that the pole started

2:11:21leaning this way because of the sail

2:11:23because all the wind were in a high wind

2:11:25environment and then eventually the pole

2:11:27would collapse onto this the public

2:11:29street.

2:11:31So, it's like, no, it's not humans that

2:11:33were taking down the poles. So, uh the

2:11:35other thing, too, is that they were

2:11:36placed further in than 4 in from the

2:11:39curb.

2:11:41People were complaining about that the

2:11:43poles were taking up the space for a

2:11:46public walkway. Not only are they

2:11:48contributing to clutter, which is also

2:11:50against the public design manual, uh,

2:11:55[snorts] but they were placed in a place

2:11:58that, uh, they shouldn't be put. In

2:12:01other words, they're not supposed to be

2:12:02taken up the walkway area. Uh, this was

2:12:05specifically I'm thinking about in the

2:12:06case of the one that was on Island and

2:12:09Sierra Street before it collapsed. So,

2:12:12but everyone knows about the data,

2:12:13Fourth Amendment rights,

2:12:16things like that. I'm not repeating

2:12:17others words. I was talking about

2:12:21specifically those things that people

2:12:23really don't think about, which is the

2:12:24the physical dangers of the polls

2:12:26themselves. Anyway, thank you.

2:12:28>> All right. Thank you, Daniel.

2:12:32>> Leslie Eisenberg, followed by Martha

2:12:34Washington via Zoom, followed by Casey

2:12:36Kadik via Zoom.

2:12:43Good afternoon, council. Leslie

2:12:45Eisenberg, board six. Uh, after five

2:12:48years of researching cities where we

2:12:50could retire, my husband took me on

2:12:53vacation to Reno in April 2025.

2:12:56My best memory was our first stop

2:12:57walking the Damonte Ranch Trail and

2:13:00within six months we bought a home on

2:13:02the trail where we now walk daily.

2:13:04Uh, we love the majestic views, the

2:13:07endless wildlife, most of all the quiet,

2:13:09transcendent beauty that makes us feel

2:13:12at peace. So, imagine our surprise the

2:13:15day we saw the rolling hills of Deonte

2:13:16Ranch Park covered by a hideous chain

2:13:20lake fence. This is a park for children

2:13:23uh with a play structure and hills for

2:13:25them to roll down in the summer and sled

2:13:27down in the winter. So, now the kids get

2:13:30their hills taken away. They may be

2:13:32fearful or in danger from the many dogs

2:13:34entering the nearby dog park gate all

2:13:37while the parents have to fight traffic

2:13:39to park their cars. Nobody asked for

2:13:42this. Uh nobody consulted the nearby

2:13:44neighbors uh who will have parking

2:13:46issues in front of their homes.

2:13:49Neighbors who paid a premium for

2:13:50proximity to this park and the stunning

2:13:53views and the peace and quiet.

2:13:56Nobody asked neighbors like me who live

2:13:58on the trail

2:14:00uh and walk on it if we want a noisy,

2:14:02messy dog park. I do not understand why

2:14:06the majority of an open use park is

2:14:10is being converted to a fence

2:14:13singlepurpose use, especially when it's

2:14:15mere feet away from protected wetlands.

2:14:18Uh, from what I understand, it will cost

2:14:19the city much more than planned to

2:14:21resume construction, remove the current

2:14:23incorrect fe fence, and build a new one.

2:14:26Is a dog park that nobody asked for

2:14:29and is now over budget a good use of our

2:14:32city funds. Um, Reno and the Damonte

2:14:36Ranch Trail are my forever home, and I

2:14:38want to keep it pristine and beautiful

2:14:41and peaceful. So, I ask you to consider

2:14:43the next time it comes up to further

2:14:45halt construction and restore the area

2:14:48to its original beauty and redirect

2:14:50funds to a better location. Thank you.

2:14:52>> All right. Thank you so much. Where did

2:14:53you move from?

2:14:54>> Um, Bay Area, Richmond, California.

2:14:57>> Welcome.

2:14:58>> Thank you.

2:15:02>> Uh, Casey Kadic via Zoom.

2:15:12Hello.

2:15:14A little bit better.

2:15:15>> It's still cutting out a bit.

2:15:22>> Okay.

2:15:25>> I oppose the contract C1 for police

2:15:29uh acts on surveillance tools.

2:15:33I'm not going to give my long statement

2:15:35since I'm cutting out, but I just wanted

2:15:38to say I oppose it very strongly.

2:15:41>> Thank you, Casey.

2:15:43>> All right. Thanks, Casey.

2:15:46>> And with that, we have no one else

2:15:48registered to speak for opening public

2:15:49comment. Uh, for the record, we received

2:15:5115 comments which were general in nature

2:15:53or not directly associated with an

2:15:55agenda item prior to 4 p.m. yesterday,

2:15:57Tuesday, October 20th. These comments

2:15:59were written correspondents received via

2:16:01our reno.gov online public comment form

2:16:03or by email to our office. Copies of

2:16:05these comments have been distributed to

2:16:07the Reno City Council and are available

2:16:08to the public on the reno.gov meeting

2:16:10portal.

2:16:11>> Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Uh

2:16:14any comments you want to put on the

2:16:15record?

2:16:16>> Yes. I want to move one thing out of the

2:16:18normal order. After the approval of the

2:16:20minutes, item A5, we're going to do item

2:16:22B14. I'll pull that from the consent

2:16:25agenda now and we'll do that first. Then

2:16:27we'll move on to consent poll and hear

2:16:29any poll consent items. After that,

2:16:31we'll hear the agenda in the order

2:16:33presented.

2:16:34>> Okay. Thank you so much. So, actually,

2:16:36just to be clear, we will pull uh agenda

2:16:40um consent agenda items and I we'll hear

2:16:42them after B14.

2:16:44>> Correct.

2:16:44>> Okay, perfect. Um

2:16:46>> move to approve the agenda.

2:16:48>> I need approval. So, I have a motion and

2:16:50a second. All those in favor say I.

2:16:51>> I.

2:16:52>> All those opposed? Motion carries. I

2:16:54need approval of the minutes.

2:16:56>> So, moved. I have a motion.

2:16:57>> I have a second. All those in favor say

2:16:59I. I.

2:17:00>> All those opposed.

2:17:02>> Motion carries. Madame clerk, any public

2:17:04comment on uh consent poll?

2:17:07>> Yes. Chris Brown, followed by France

2:17:10Weber, followed by Thomas Powell.

2:17:12>> Okay. I believe um Okay. So, that will

2:17:14be item uh B14. So, at this time, I'm

2:17:18going to ask council members or do you

2:17:21have any other items besides B14?

2:17:26I just wanted to pull B13 if you don't

2:17:28mind.

2:17:28>> Oh, I just One second, Madam Clerk.

2:17:32>> Sorry, I just couldn't hear that. Was it

2:17:33B5?

2:17:34>> I I just wanted to know if you have

2:17:36other items.

2:17:37>> Oh, no.

2:17:37>> Okay. I don't I didn't want to skip

2:17:39anyone.

2:17:40>> No. Okay. Perfect. Okay. Thank you so

2:17:42much. Okay. At this time, I'm going to

2:17:43ask council members to please pull your

2:17:45agenda items. Going to start with you,

2:17:47Councilwoman Anderson. Go ahead.

2:17:49>> B13, please.

2:17:50>> B13.

2:17:52Vice Mayor Martinez. Um B6

2:17:56>> B6 Councilwoman Taylor

2:17:58>> none.

2:18:00>> Counciloman Reese.

2:18:00>> Nothing. Madam Mayor,

2:18:01>> Councilwoman Der,

2:18:02>> nothing today. Councilwoman I

2:18:05>> nothing today.

2:18:06>> Okay. All right. Thanks everyone. At

2:18:07this time, I'm going to ask uh for

2:18:10approval of the consent items.

2:18:13>> Move to approve.

2:18:14>> Second. I have a motion. I have a

2:18:15second. All those in favor say I.

2:18:17>> All those opposed

2:18:19motion carries unanimously.

2:18:22Okay, we are going to start with item

2:18:24B14 and we're going to take it into

2:18:27public comment.

2:18:36>> Chris Brown followed by France Weber

2:18:38followed by Thomas Powell.

2:18:39>> Okay. Well, we are excited to have you

2:18:43here today and um this is approval of

2:18:48the lease amendment to extend existing

2:18:50allowable lease term an additional 49

2:18:53years to a maximum total of 99 years

2:18:56expiring on October 31st, 2118 for the

2:19:00cityowned property identified um located

2:19:04at 21130

2:19:07Mount Rose Highway, Reno, Nevada lease

2:19:09released by Sky Tavern, uh, a nonprofit

2:19:14corporation. Hello. We are we are glad

2:19:17that you are here today. So, go ahead

2:19:19and put your comments on the record.

2:19:21>> Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, council.

2:19:23Um, for the record, Chris Brown.

2:19:27Sky Tavern has been a staple of the

2:19:28outdoor community for nearly 90 years,

2:19:31as you guys are aware. It's adapted and

2:19:33changed a great deal through that time,

2:19:37but it has become so important to the

2:19:39community. I drive the Sky Tavern truck

2:19:42and am often stopped by people I don't

2:19:44know

2:19:45>> simply so they can tell me about the

2:19:47stories of the history at Sky Tavern. I

2:19:50am not a Reno native, but I totally

2:19:53understand this feeling because I came

2:19:54from a mountain very similar to Sky

2:19:57Tavern.

2:19:59Over time, Sky Tavern has provided

2:20:01affordable recreation and education to

2:20:04the community and has adapted and

2:20:06evolved. At one point, we were an 8-week

2:20:09only program and we've developed into

2:20:12having a greater impact on the community

2:20:15through both summer and winter.

2:20:18We provide opportunities for members in

2:20:21a in a total of about nearly 20,000

2:20:24volunteer hours per year. That's both

2:20:27summer and winter.

2:20:28We provide the opportunity to have an

2:20:30affordable entrance into this outdoor

2:20:33outdoor recreation in this community. We

2:20:37provide these people a chance to

2:20:39experience something and choose if they

2:20:41want to continue to experience it. An

2:20:44interesting statistic that we should all

2:20:46know is that children that experience

2:20:48outdoor recreation before the age of 18

2:20:51are 74% more likely to continue doing

2:20:54outdoor recreation in their adulthood.

2:20:59Extending our lease to 99 years gives

2:21:02Sky Sky Sky Tavern more opportunity to

2:21:04partner with industry partners,

2:21:06foundations, and pursue larger grants

2:21:08and capture impactful opportunities. It

2:21:11helps us not live so hand-to-mouth.

2:21:14continuing these programs.

2:21:17We are also taking it upon ourselves as

2:21:20as an organization to provide

2:21:21educational opportunities and started

2:21:24two programs last year to develop career

2:21:26pathways into the outdoor recreation

2:21:28community.

2:21:30As I mentioned before, I am not a member

2:21:33of a native to Reno,

2:21:36but it is Sky Tavern that I fell in love

2:21:38with.

2:21:40When my friend Steve told me I needed to

2:21:42come out here and interview for a

2:21:44position as a CEO of Sky Tavern, I told

2:21:47him, "No one's moving to Reno, bud."

2:21:50[laughter] Right. I was pretty in love

2:21:52with the Rockies.

2:21:54But being able to come out to Sky Tavern

2:21:56and see the operations and see how

2:21:59dedicated the volunteers and the

2:22:01community were to this was what saved

2:22:04it.

2:22:06I want to stop. I want to close my

2:22:09comments with a quote from Jonas Sulk.

2:22:12The greatest reward for doing is the

2:22:15opportunity to do it again.

2:22:17>> I love that. I love that. And I have had

2:22:21the pleasure to um visit Sky Tavern and

2:22:25see your enthusiasm and your love for

2:22:29the outdoors, but all the people that

2:22:31recreate there and the children. You're

2:22:33doing a remarkable job. I I think you

2:22:35are absolutely um the right person for

2:22:38the job. So, thank you for everything

2:22:40you do and you've got a really funny

2:22:42sense of humor.

2:22:43>> I like it. Am I right?

2:22:47>> I feel like Yes. See? Okay. Love it.

2:22:50Okay, Madam Clerk.

2:22:52>> France Weber followed by Thomas Powell

2:22:54followed by Kamal Abuhan via Zoom.

2:22:57>> Okay, everyone. This is a very special

2:22:59guest that's in the house today. This is

2:23:02Olympian France Weber. He's extremely

2:23:06famous. I get the pleasure to you travel

2:23:10um you know for this job here and there

2:23:13and people know you from around the

2:23:16world and he chooses to live right here

2:23:19in Reno. He um has an impressive Olympic

2:23:24career and uh he is also a resident of

2:23:28the city of Reno. It is really an honor

2:23:30to have you here. Anyone that um is a

2:23:32skier or knows outdoor recreation knows

2:23:35your name. I mean, if I I've been in

2:23:38rooms with this gentleman and people

2:23:40swarm to get your autograph, your

2:23:43picture. You are a big big big deal in

2:23:47uh the skiing community and you have

2:23:49like all these Olympic friends. That's

2:23:51the other thing. All these friends

2:23:53around you that are all Olympians and

2:23:55but you have done so much in this

2:23:57community uh quite honestly and you've

2:23:59done it very quietly. you you're very

2:24:01humble, humble man, but I just want to

2:24:03say thank you for how much you've loved

2:24:05this community, loved Reno, loved that

2:24:08mountain, and wanted to save it, um, you

2:24:11know, for its eternity. So, uh, the

2:24:14floor is yours, Mr. Fran Weber.

2:24:18>> Oh. Uh, good afternoon, Mayor. Good

2:24:21afternoon, council. Thanks for giving me

2:24:24the opportunity. As you can hear from my

2:24:26accent, I'm not from here. I was born in

2:24:28Austria. Well, that sounds like a Reno

2:24:30accent. [laughter]

2:24:31>> Well, I have lived in Reno since 1984

2:24:34and love this area and through by living

2:24:37here became aware of Sky Dev and I saw a

2:24:40lot of parallels where I grew up.

2:24:42>> [snorts]

2:24:42>> I uh uh grew up in a city which had

2:24:46twice the Olympics in 1964 and in 1976

2:24:50and as a young kid you expired inspired

2:24:52by the athletic opportunities and we had

2:24:56a similar system like uh Sky Devron

2:25:00where we had to walk to a bus station a

2:25:03bus came picked us up we got the train

2:25:05and it got me to win six world

2:25:07championships and Olympics uh uh uh race

2:25:11in 192 last time was where I raised an

2:25:15Olympics. What I I want to uh say with

2:25:18that we live in a town where a lot of

2:25:20kids uh come out where we have a lot of

2:25:23hotels and children usually of people

2:25:25who work in housekeeping uh could not

2:25:28afford an opportunity to go and ski or

2:25:30go mountain bike and by providing this

2:25:34opportunity I think they already dream

2:25:37of uh the 1930 uh the 2035 Olympics

2:25:42which uh when you look back in in sky

2:25:45dev

2:25:46We developed Tamron McKini. Uh the

2:25:49mountain was the babysitter for her

2:25:51while her mom was coaching. She became a

2:25:54multiple world cup champion and world

2:25:56champion. We had David Weiss. Same

2:25:59thing. Grew up on the mountain, learned

2:26:00to ski and inspired him and then he won

2:26:04three uh two Olympic uh golds and uh

2:26:07what one silver in three consecutive

2:26:10Olympics. And when you look other

2:26:13example, the greatest uh uh skier in the

2:26:16US, Bodie Miller grew up without running

2:26:18water. And the same thing, the mountain

2:26:20was his babysitter and he become the

2:26:22most successful skier. And I just hope

2:26:25that uh by extending that lease to the

2:26:28maximum possible, it will help us to

2:26:32invest make it the best possibly can be

2:26:35and uh other things probably will take

2:26:38care of themselves potentially

2:26:40collaborating with Mount Rose which can

2:26:43uh help with the operation. And the only

2:26:46thing I want to add to that uh I

2:26:48encourage that with the only exception

2:26:50long as they stay private and don't sell

2:26:53right

2:26:53>> to a place like Vale or another company

2:26:56because it will take the the heart and

2:26:59the soul or the vibe away.

2:27:01>> But uh I appreciate your time listening

2:27:03to me and uh I hope you're moving

2:27:05forward and I'm sure our chairman Tom

2:27:09Powell has more to say to it. Thank you

2:27:11very much [clears throat] for the

2:27:12opportunity. Well, thank you for

2:27:14everything that you do in this

2:27:15community. Everything. Bronze has also

2:27:18been really instrumental in the Pyramid

2:27:22Tahoe uh trail.

2:27:24>> Yeah.

2:27:25>> You raised a lot of money for it. You

2:27:27made sure that that was happening. He's

2:27:29a big um believer in preservation of

2:27:32open space and you've just fought for

2:27:34this community and raised millions of

2:27:37dollars for a lot of these nonprofits.

2:27:39You are an impressive man. I hope you

2:27:42know that.

2:27:43>> I appreciate that. And when you're no

2:27:45longer the mayor, I may consider hiring

2:27:46you as a marketing director.

2:27:48>> No. No, I'm good. [laughter] I know. I'm

2:27:51just kidding. I'm going to hire you as

2:27:53the marketing director [laughter]

2:27:56for Reno Tahoe. Okay, come on up, Mr.

2:27:59Powell. He is currently the CEO of Sky

2:28:03Tavern

2:28:04>> chair. Toe is the CEO.

2:28:05>> Toe is the ch CEO. And you are the

2:28:08chair.

2:28:09>> You are the chair. So you get to bring

2:28:10as hard as everyone in. This gentleman

2:28:12is also another powerhouse who raises a

2:28:15lot of money for um nonprofits and uh

2:28:18you have done remarkable work. You're

2:28:20>> I believe you also teach skiing.

2:28:22>> I do.

2:28:23>> You do. Okay. I I knew it. And your wife

2:28:26does and her family does. They're

2:28:27amazing. Okay. Take it away.

2:28:29>> Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council

2:28:31members and city manager. It is a

2:28:33pleasure to be here today. I just want

2:28:35to tell you and start with you. In 1975,

2:28:38a little kid got to go up and learn how

2:28:40to ski. And that's parents couldn't

2:28:43afford it. We had a bus system here. So

2:28:44when Fron and I talk about our paths,

2:28:46and we have the similar paths, and he

2:28:48and I get to ski all over the world with

2:28:49some of the most amazing skiers, himself

2:28:51included. But he also brings those

2:28:53people here to our mountain. Last year

2:28:56we had 12 Olympic and World Cup skiers

2:28:58at Sky Tavern. We skied five peaks

2:29:01before that, bringing people into the

2:29:02RCVA, our bed, you know, heads and beds

2:29:05type scenario. And we do that for the

2:29:07capital raising that we do here at Sky.

2:29:08We'll be doing another one this year. I

2:29:10think we have 40 guests that were

2:29:11allowed to have this year, uh, which

2:29:12we're going to be putting out to market.

2:29:14So, uh, today I have the honor of

2:29:16serving as chair, uh, as the mayor said,

2:29:18and carrying that opportunity forward.

2:29:20We stand on the shoulders of giants.

2:29:22Marcy Hers, the uh volunteers who built

2:29:25the junior ski program, Bill Henderson

2:29:27who ran it for 20 years, Yale Spina for

2:29:29the last seven, and our current CEO

2:29:31Chris Brown, uh World Cup champion, as

2:29:34Fron mentioned, Tamara McKini, and

2:29:35threetime Olympian David Weiss remind us

2:29:37of the extraordinary people who carry

2:29:39this mountain spirit forward. To our

2:29:42staff, volunteers, families, and

2:29:43supporters, I thank you for continuing

2:29:46that work. And thank you to the mayor,

2:29:48the council, and city staff for helping

2:29:49make this next chapter possible. Our

2:29:51community mountain teaches more than

2:29:53skiing and snowboarding. Children fall,

2:29:55get back up, and try again. They build

2:29:58confidence, friendships, and resilience.

2:30:00People of all ages find a place to

2:30:02connect with the outdoors and with one

2:30:04another. In 2034, Utah will host the

2:30:07Winter Olympics. A child learning on our

2:30:09mountain this season could compete in

2:30:12that Olympic. But every child deserves a

2:30:14place to begin, whether they go to the

2:30:16Olympics or not, wherever that uh

2:30:18beginning leads. This 99-year lease

2:30:20gives us a foundation for lasting

2:30:21investment, infrastructure, gifts,

2:30:24financing for expanded facilities, and

2:30:25opportunity to serve more people. It

2:30:27gives us the planning horizon to build a

2:30:29recurring revenue that can sustain this

2:30:31mountain for generations. That certainty

2:30:34depends on our responsibility to care

2:30:36for it. And as the mayor has emphasized,

2:30:38this is a major step toward securing our

2:30:40mountain heritage for Northern Nevada

2:30:42and for the people of Reno. The people

2:30:44who came before us could not know all

2:30:45the lives their work would touch.

2:30:48Neither can we. But we can honor them by

2:30:50carrying what they entrusted to us and

2:30:52passing it forward. I respectfully ask

2:30:55you to approve this lease so that

2:30:56decades from now another child can stand

2:30:58here and say, "This mountain gave me the

2:31:00opportunity."

2:31:01>> Thank you.

2:31:02>> All right. Fantastic job.

2:31:04>> Thank you.

2:31:04>> Love it.

2:31:07>> Kamal Abuhan via Zoom.

2:31:12>> Hi everybody. to speak to you again, all

2:31:16of you, uh, mayor and, uh, the gang. Uh,

2:31:20I'm a W five resident. Uh, and let me

2:31:22tell you the power of of, uh, Sky

2:31:25Tavern. Uh, we we discovered Sky Tavern

2:31:29two years ago. Uh, and, uh, we we

2:31:32mountain biked there. So, I'm on the on

2:31:33the Yang side. We're the we're the dirt

2:31:35side of the skiers. Um, and it's

2:31:38completely enjoyable. Uh this so what I

2:31:42do is I come from Arrow Creek Park and

2:31:44I'll roll up Arrow Creek this trail

2:31:46system that links us to Thomas Creek

2:31:48trail head and from Thomas Creek there's

2:31:50a linkage to White then we take Mount

2:31:53Old Mount Rose Highway which runs us

2:31:55right through Sky Tavern and then what

2:31:57I'll do is I'll connect this I'll sky

2:31:59Tavern Sky Taverns has a trail network

2:32:02that takes you to the top of Mount Rose

2:32:04that links you right to TRT. I uh uh I I

2:32:08do the rose toads ride with uh with uh

2:32:10Tampa and uh and I can say that the the

2:32:14Sky Tavern area for the downhilling and

2:32:17the and then the cross country um riding

2:32:19has prepared me for all the races that

2:32:21I've done this year. I have to say it's

2:32:23an absolute gem and it's wellkept. So

2:32:26the volunteers are been doing some trail

2:32:27networking stuff there. I once ran into

2:32:30a rider that was I think he was an

2:32:32American Indian. He was so fast, so

2:32:35fluid with air flowing through his head

2:32:38and he was cruising up that mountain and

2:32:41I was trying to follow him because it's

2:32:43part of my workout and and I we he went

2:32:45all the way to the top. I couldn't make

2:32:46it. I got to the lake and that was it. I

2:32:48just died. That was where I couldn't go

2:32:51any farther. But I can say that Sky

2:32:54Tavern and it keeps ringing in my ears.

2:32:56Sky Timer in the age of tomorrow. The

2:32:58greatness of what could tomorrow could

2:33:00be is that um is that that area that

2:33:04that great gem that we have and I'm so

2:33:06glad that you guys are involved with it.

2:33:08That's why I just know we're thinking

2:33:09[clears throat] on the same page here.

2:33:10We're just so together on this. So,

2:33:13thank you.

2:33:14>> All right. Well, thank you so much. We

2:33:16appreciate your comment. [clears throat]

2:33:19>> There's no one else registered to speak

2:33:20on this item.

2:33:21>> Right. Thank you very much. And I love

2:33:22that you're on the mountain side because

2:33:25I I'm not a mountain biker. Um but I

2:33:29would tell you this. I met a gentleman

2:33:31who's ranked nationally. He's a big deal

2:33:34and he said that the mountain biking is

2:33:37some of the best he he's ever

2:33:39experienced in the country. So don't let

2:33:41that secret get out there. But um

2:33:45Nathan uh you're going to give us a

2:33:48presentation, correct?

2:33:50Just just for questions, relatively

2:33:51simple. Um the contract remains exactly

2:33:54the same except for the term of the

2:33:56lease. So okay, um this as they've

2:33:59>> really well articulated, uh this is this

2:34:03is why I'm in parks and wreck. The the

2:34:04opportunities like Sky Tavern where

2:34:06people can connect, discover whatever it

2:34:08is they're going to discover, whether

2:34:10it's in the river, on the mountain. Um

2:34:13those opportunities are why we do this.

2:34:14So, thank thank you for pushing this and

2:34:16thank you to the community and to Sky

2:34:18Tavern to Chris and Ato um for all the

2:34:21work they do up there to to provide

2:34:22discovery opportunities for kids and

2:34:24>> I just want to give people a little bit

2:34:26of background how we got here across the

2:34:29country right now. big corporations are

2:34:31buying up um mountains like this and

2:34:33there is big big big interest and uh

2:34:37someone approached me and this has

2:34:40happened several times and in order to

2:34:42make sure that this mountain is

2:34:44preserved for this open space for this

2:34:46community for those kids. That's why we

2:34:49wanted to make sure there was a

2:34:50long-term lease and we will be bringing

2:34:52a deed restriction so that this mountain

2:34:54can stay in the city for the community

2:34:57forever. our open space should be

2:34:59protected. Big corporations should not

2:35:01be buying up these mountains. This is

2:35:02where children um literally I I think

2:35:06it's one of the biggest things you can

2:35:08do to protect their mental health. So

2:35:10before uh we all move on to the next

2:35:13chapter of Reno, I wanted to make sure

2:35:15that no one will ever get their hands on

2:35:18this mountain um for other any other

2:35:22purpose than what it is absolutely

2:35:24intended to do for those children and

2:35:26for this community. I will tell you if

2:35:29you have not been I had no idea until

2:35:32several years ago. if you um you really

2:35:36have got to go see it. It will warm your

2:35:39heart, but honestly, there's nothing

2:35:41like it. I' I've never seen and the I

2:35:44just want to give a shout out to April

2:35:45Wolf with the access um community and

2:35:49what she's doing up there. That access

2:35:52program is phenomenal. It is phenomenal

2:35:56to see those kids that would never get

2:35:58an opportunity to be able to participate

2:36:01in snow sports. And so I would just

2:36:04encourage this community, please,

2:36:05please, please support this mountain so

2:36:08it can be ours forever and continue to

2:36:10protect our open space. So, thank you.

2:36:12Thank you, um, Nathan. Really, thank you

2:36:15for your advocacy on this. Thank you.

2:36:18>> All right, I'm going to take questions

2:36:19or, uh, comments from council Councilman

2:36:21Ree, and then I'll head over there.

2:36:23>> Thank you so much. Um, and Mr. Juliet,

2:36:25you may not be able to answer this. I

2:36:26probably one of the Sky Tavern folks who

2:36:28want to come back up. Um, but I'm very

2:36:30grateful for all of you being here. Uh,

2:36:32Sky Tavern is an important uh sort of

2:36:35touchstone both from my own childhood

2:36:36and my children's uh childhood who

2:36:39learned to ski there uh and continue to

2:36:41enjoy skiing uh as a result of being

2:36:43able to go there. Um I wanted to know we

2:36:46have had periodic updates about what's

2:36:48going on at Sky Tavern and it's been a

2:36:50little bit since we had one, but there

2:36:51were a couple things going on at Sky

2:36:53Tavern that I just wanted to know if

2:36:54anyone could give us an update on. One

2:36:57was the status of um like improvements

2:37:00at the lodge. They were working on that.

2:37:02Uh, one was about, uh, some purchase

2:37:04water rights that were important to

2:37:06maybe advanced snow making um,

2:37:08capabilities. Um, and so who who wants

2:37:11to speak to that?

2:37:14>> To all you.

2:37:16>> I got you.

2:37:17>> And please understand, um, the the point

2:37:19is is that this council has always

2:37:21shared the vision that you have. Um, we

2:37:24have a a small role because we have been

2:37:26the stewards and owners of the under the

2:37:28dirt, but we know that you're the one

2:37:30who's actually doing the work. Um, I

2:37:32think Madame Mayor has um in the 12

2:37:35years that she's been on this council

2:37:36done everything she could to ensure uh

2:37:39Sky Tavern's success in the future. And

2:37:41this is one example of that, right? And

2:37:43so I think it's a a no-brainer that we

2:37:46should extend the lease and give you

2:37:47that um ability to be able to fund raise

2:37:49on that larger uh commitment from the

2:37:52city about locking it up. But just help

2:37:54us understand what's going on up there.

2:37:56It's been a years. I mean, I was a hill

2:37:58monitor and I was terrible at it because

2:38:00I was cold. And so then they moved me

2:38:02over to parking. That was easier. But,

2:38:04you know, I just got to hang out with

2:38:06our dads and hang out and talk about our

2:38:07kids. So, it was fun.

2:38:09>> Let me start by saying as a volunteer,

2:38:10it doesn't matter how good you are.

2:38:12>> You haven't seen me.

2:38:14>> I promise.

2:38:15>> Yeah. Um, so I've been with Sky Tavern

2:38:18now for two years. Um, when I took over

2:38:20at Sky Tavern, we had a laundry list of

2:38:23things that needed to be completed.

2:38:25property beautifification, things like

2:38:27that. And if you've been up to Sky

2:38:28Tavern recently, you can see some of the

2:38:30things we've done to the external,

2:38:32specifically the property. Um, as it

2:38:35applies to the lodge, snow making, etc.

2:38:39It would have been remiss of me to not

2:38:42employ others, third parties to create a

2:38:46general master plan, which we are

2:38:48currently working on. Last summer, we

2:38:51completed our strategic master plan and

2:38:53it gave us four pillars to focus on. The

2:38:56first being financial resilience.

2:38:58We needed to shore up the finances so

2:39:01that we could accomplish the goals of

2:39:02the team. Um, with that being done

2:39:05though, we have now engaged a third

2:39:07party that's helping us with a general

2:39:09master plan that will be completed in

2:39:12the spring and I plan to present where

2:39:14we're headed. Um then I am aware that we

2:39:18uh have missed some of our updates. Um

2:39:21but I have been giving them to the parks

2:39:23and wreck crew. Um

2:39:27the lodge we have done some uh some

2:39:30internal stuff, paint, carpet. We

2:39:32remodeled the kitchen last year. Huge

2:39:34things. But we were doing them we're

2:39:37doing them differently now. We're doing

2:39:39them based on how we can affect and give

2:39:42a better product without changing how

2:39:45harsh the affordability is

2:39:48that everyone's experiencing, not just

2:39:50in the ski industry, just life, right?

2:39:53So, we're focusing on processes, not

2:39:55just focusing on what money we can scrge

2:39:59together kind of deal. And that will

2:40:01delay some of those things, but they'll

2:40:03be done right and we won't have to redo

2:40:04them. Mhm. So

2:40:07>> yeah, sure. Come on up.

2:40:09>> If I can just add to that. So from the

2:40:11chair, a couple things that we've done.

2:40:13Uh council member is the board has

2:40:16expanded uh the number on our board and

2:40:18we are presently looking for additional

2:40:21board members that understand the

2:40:23capital raising needs of that. Uh what

2:40:25this 99-year lease affords us is the

2:40:27ability to have the right type of

2:40:30donors. And for example, I'm also an

2:40:32ambassador to the US ski team. The uh

2:40:35Steamboat just recently had a 12.5

2:40:37million dollar gift with a matching gift

2:40:39to the US ski team. And so we're in

2:40:41conversations that there are donors that

2:40:43have potential. I'm not saying that it

2:40:45is. It's not done yet, but this is where

2:40:47we can go. When we were a almost

2:40:49year-to-year 5-year lease type scenario,

2:40:51those were impossible to get. When we

2:40:53moved to a 30 and a 20, so 50-year

2:40:56lease, that became more probable. And a

2:40:5899-year lease says we've got some

2:41:00perpetuity. So it allows for that on

2:41:02there where a building is not out of the

2:41:04question. New improvements to the

2:41:06building when you see the photos back in

2:41:081945

2:41:09I think it was the building's the same

2:41:11building and we're still using it and

2:41:12functional which has been great but it's

2:41:14time for us to move on and say where can

2:41:16we go? The water is a big question. We

2:41:19don't need specifically water rights

2:41:21although we can definitely use

2:41:22groundwater rights. Uh if somebody wants

2:41:24to assign those to us we'd be glad to

2:41:26take them on. Uh but the surface water

2:41:28rights needs retention. So that's one of

2:41:30our primary capital raises that we will

2:41:31be out to market for. Uh as Toe

2:41:33mentioned, we are actively working

2:41:36towards sustainable repeatable uh

2:41:39revenue models and this gives us again

2:41:41that uh and we ask the mayor's been so

2:41:44great about it's a community mountain.

2:41:46It's our community mountain. How do we

2:41:48all take care of it? And a membership

2:41:49program is going to be something you'll

2:41:50see coming forth on that. We'll be glad

2:41:52to present that to the council as well.

2:41:54>> And to how long have you been there now?

2:41:57>> Two years.

2:41:58>> Okay. years. It is night and day. Um

2:42:01what you've been able to accomplish. It

2:42:03is impressive.

2:42:04>> Thank you.

2:42:05>> Impressive.

2:42:05>> You just came out for the wider sky why

2:42:07we sky and we for next year's event.

2:42:09Well, we we've got the date for it. We'd

2:42:11love to have all the council members

2:42:12come out and see it. You get to ride the

2:42:13chairs up to the top of the lift. You

2:42:15get to, you know, investigate what's

2:42:17going on. We welcome all of you. Of

2:42:18course, you can all come out and ski or

2:42:20bike with us anytime. Yeah,

2:42:22>> we're a nonprofit and we don't take that

2:42:24lightly and that's how we're going to

2:42:27stay.

2:42:29With that being said, we just have to be

2:42:30a little more clever doing it.

2:42:32>> Well, you've done that. I see a huge

2:42:35huge huge upside in what you've been

2:42:38able to accomplish.

2:42:40>> Thank you. because I try to go every

2:42:42year and hang out there a little bit

2:42:44more whenever you you need some mental

2:42:47clarity and you need to be outdoors and

2:42:49you just need to be around really good

2:42:51people that share, you know, the same

2:42:53love for open space and all those great

2:42:56things. But I ju I see a huge huge

2:42:59difference. It's amazing.

2:43:00>> Well, thank you guys and thank you for

2:43:02allowing us to speak. Thanks.

2:43:04>> All right, council members, any further

2:43:06questions?

2:43:08>> No. Yes. I just had something very

2:43:10quickly. Um, I just want to show my

2:43:13gratitude and appreciation for Sky Tower

2:43:15for you all taking on the programs that

2:43:17you do. I know a lot of youth in our

2:43:19communities have experienced what you

2:43:22all offer and are very their families

2:43:23are very grateful to have the

2:43:25opportunities not just to explore the

2:43:27outdoors and engage in outdoor

2:43:29recreation, but learn to, you know, ski

2:43:32and snowboard and all the offerings that

2:43:34you have with the bike trails as well

2:43:35that you do in the summer. I only had

2:43:37one question for Mr. Weber since we have

2:43:39him here today. And I just wondering how

2:43:41it feels to go 125 miles per hour on

2:43:44skis.

2:43:47>> Good for you, Miguel.

2:43:50>> That's fast.

2:43:51>> Come over [laughter] here. I want to

2:43:52hear. We want to hear a lot of probably

2:43:55men and women in this room that are like

2:43:58that.

2:43:59>> Having gone 140 miles an hour

2:44:01disqualifies me to talk. [snorts] Dude,

2:44:03you could probably think I have a screw

2:44:04loose. But

2:44:06no, it's um a lot of people think it's

2:44:09extremely dangerous and I skied downhill

2:44:11slam all events and in a downhill you

2:44:14ski 80 tops 90 miles an hour but you

2:44:17have to negotiate uh terrain turns uh

2:44:20jumps and you have obstacles you can hit

2:44:23when you ski at that speed of 140 m an

2:44:25hour. It's actually a lot safer. First

2:44:27you only go straight. You don't make

2:44:29turns because you couldn't make turns at

2:44:32that speed.

2:44:32>> Don't make turns at that speed. He says

2:44:35>> if you do fall, there is no more

2:44:36dumbling. It's like when you take a rock

2:44:38and skip it in the water, it skips

2:44:40across the water. So all your gear stays

2:44:43behind you and you have rubberized suits

2:44:45on.

2:44:46>> So I crashed unfortunately a couple

2:44:48times at over 130 mph and I had 30°

2:44:52friction burns just from the sliding on

2:44:54the snow. And to get a little bit more

2:44:58technical. So when um how would I

2:45:01explain it? When you drive a car and no

2:45:04police officer here and you go

2:45:06[laughter]

2:45:0750, if you go 100 miles an hour, you

2:45:09open the window and you stick your hand

2:45:11out the window, you will see how your

2:45:13hand is unstable. And if you tighten it

2:45:15really like a rock, you see how you

2:45:17stabilize and you cut safely to the

2:45:19wind. And it's the same thing when you

2:45:20ski. When you go, I would say about up

2:45:24to 100 miles an hour, uh, gliding,

2:45:27riding a flat ski, being supple is more

2:45:30important. Over 100 miles an hour,

2:45:32aerodynamics become more important. So

2:45:34what do you do? you interlock your your

2:45:36arms uh your hands and you it's

2:45:40depending what angle of attack you have

2:45:42because more you lower your shoulders

2:45:44more downforce you get more you have up

2:45:47less downforce less friction but the

2:45:51interesting thing is once you go let's

2:45:53say around depending on altitude and air

2:45:55temperature higher you are warmer the

2:45:58the air is less uh resistance you have

2:46:01so that comes a point somewhere between

2:46:03I would say 150 15 125 miles an hour

2:46:07where I'm sure the people who ski have

2:46:09that sensation when they ski too fast in

2:46:11the back seat they think they're losing

2:46:13control. That's a similar way where you

2:46:16the ski start to to bounce and there

2:46:18comes a point where the wind pressure

2:46:20gets so strong on your ski tips that you

2:46:22actually go on a cushion of air. So once

2:46:25you have no more snow contact if you get

2:46:27a crosswind you know you can shift but

2:46:29you have no more uh control. You could

2:46:32adjust it by hand movements, but we have

2:46:34special helmets with a fin on the back.

2:46:36So, you have your directional uh thing

2:46:40by by just a head movement adjustment.

2:46:43So, there's I could go on there.

2:46:45>> A lot of people didn't know that.

2:46:46There's a lot that goes into it.

2:46:48>> Like I said, once you're going off the

2:46:50ground to stop. So, usually the course

2:46:52is flagged out with different colors.

2:46:55And usually when you see the red flags

2:46:57disappear, you know, you got to prepare

2:46:58to stop. So you just lower your arm, you

2:47:00get back to that snow contact and

2:47:02progressively stand up because if you

2:47:04would just stand up abruptly, it would

2:47:06rip you out of your binding. So it's a

2:47:08matter of uh mileage experience, but I'm

2:47:12still around here to tell you about it.

2:47:14>> Well, you're you're amazing.

2:47:16>> Did I answer your question? Wonderful.

2:47:18[laughter]

2:47:19Thank you.

2:47:21>> Now everyone knows how to go 120 miles

2:47:23an hour. So, uh, safely,

2:47:27but I would say don't try that at home.

2:47:29All right. Um,

2:47:30>> but, uh, sorry, I don't want to take

2:47:32everyone's time, but on,

2:47:35uh, March the 10th, which is a

2:47:38Wednesday, if anyone wants to come up

2:47:41from the still members, we have done it

2:47:42last year, which is a fund raise and

2:47:44awareness program for Sky De. And I

2:47:48appreciate all the volunteers and also

2:47:50the champions. We even had France Clemer

2:47:51who is coming again this year again

2:47:54where we skiing six resorts in one day

2:47:57and uh I I'm sure the team will inform

2:48:00you where it is if you can participate

2:48:03or have local uh contributors who want

2:48:06us by buy a five person team.

2:48:10>> Those are possibilities.

2:48:12>> Where where can you do it? Is that on

2:48:14their website?

2:48:15>> It's on the website.

2:48:17>> Bronze for Sky Tavern.

2:48:18>> Bronze for Sky Tavern. Oh, you have your

2:48:21own

2:48:22>> URL. Wow. Okay. I love that. Well,

2:48:25Olympic medalist everyone and Reno

2:48:28resident

2:48:29Fron and um your friends um Fron Weber,

2:48:35but your friend Fron Clommer, we need to

2:48:38recognize him because he has done a lot

2:48:40of advocacy for uh Sky Tavern too. So,

2:48:44and also we should mention Tamara

2:48:46McKini, Olympic gold medalist. Um, David

2:48:50Weiss, Olympic gold medalist. Uh, Wayne

2:48:53Wong. Um, Wayne Wong was like the

2:48:56godfather of hot dogging what they

2:48:58called ballet skiing.

2:49:00They all live here. It's amazing how

2:49:03much talent that lives here. But I want

2:49:05to recognize them because they've had

2:49:06tremendous advocacy um and love and

2:49:09they've raised tons of money for that

2:49:12mountain. And um I'm just really

2:49:14grateful is I did I miss anyone?

2:49:18>> Lane Spina.

2:49:19>> Lane Spina.

2:49:21>> Yes. Lane Spina,

2:49:23>> JT Holmes, Darren Ross, all locals all

2:49:26supported. Uh there is

2:49:29>> Yeah. Anyway, just so everyone knows,

2:49:32you live in one of the best environments

2:49:34um for this sport and a lot of people

2:49:37don't even know that it exists, but go

2:49:39up there. Just even walk around. It's

2:49:41phenomenal. So, uh, great job. I also do

2:49:44want to recognize, um, Congressman

2:49:47Ammedday. He is, uh, looking at, um,

2:49:51funding or actually he is going to

2:49:54secure funding for, um, fire mitigation

2:49:57and other, um, open space initiatives.

2:50:00So, I really want to recognize him and

2:50:03and his support uh, for this project.

2:50:06And then, um, manager Bryant, thank you.

2:50:09Thank you very very very much. You're

2:50:11welcome. It's good stuff. It's

2:50:13>> hard to get something done without her

2:50:15support. So, I appreciate you very, very

2:50:17much. Anyway, with that being said, I

2:50:19would like to make a motion.

2:50:21>> Council member Eert does have her hand

2:50:22raised.

2:50:23>> Oh, she does. Oh, there. Okay. I didn't

2:50:25see it on Zoom. Go ahead.

2:50:30>> Hi. Yeah, thanks. I also just wanted to

2:50:32say thank you for um you know, the

2:50:35service you provide for the community

2:50:37and the experiences you provide for

2:50:39kids. I know my kids love to ski, but to

2:50:43be honest, we could not afford to ski um

2:50:46at uh the other uh lodges, even though

2:50:50we'd love to. They're beautiful. Um but

2:50:53uh Sky Tavern has made it so that um

2:50:56more people can experience uh some of

2:50:59the best skiing in the world around

2:51:01Aaho. So, just wanted to thank you for

2:51:03that. in the the dirt biking um in the

2:51:06summertime or when there's no snow. And

2:51:09uh it's just a great um opportunity for

2:51:13kids and and people of all ages. And I

2:51:16just wanted to say thank you for that.

2:51:18And um happy to support Sky Tavern. Um

2:51:22and also just kind of in that vein want

2:51:24to um hopefully maybe someday we can

2:51:28have some type of situation

2:51:31uh where we also support um the Sierra

2:51:35Sage Golf Course um in the same fashion.

2:51:39They also provide a lot of services and

2:51:41and outdoor activities for children and

2:51:46veterans and seniors. But, um, I'm not

2:51:49trying to, um, you know, divert

2:51:53attention, but, uh, just had to throw

2:51:55that in there. But thank you again for

2:51:57everything that you do, um, with Sky

2:51:59Tavern. It's, it's just really

2:52:01incredible. So, thank you.

2:52:04>> Okay, I seconded your motion.

2:52:06>> All right. So, I did make a motion to

2:52:08approve item B14, and I have a second

2:52:11from Councilwoman Der. All those in

2:52:12favor say I. I.

2:52:14>> All those opposed?

2:52:16Motion carries unanimously.

2:52:18Congratulations.

2:52:21[applause]

2:52:22Thank you, Nathan. Thank you. Thank you

2:52:25very very much. Thank you. Um and there

2:52:29you will be available for press outside

2:52:31the room. Okay. All right. Thank you

2:52:33very very much. Okay. We are moving on

2:52:38um to item hold on B6.

2:52:48Did you?

2:52:48>> Yeah.

2:52:49>> Okay.

2:52:50>> Hey, um,

2:52:50>> Councilman Martinez,

2:52:51>> thank you so much. Yeah. During, um, the

2:52:53briefing, I know we had already approved

2:52:56the additional funds in the last item,

2:52:57but I just wanted to see if you could on

2:52:59the record just give us the same

2:53:00explanation that you gave me during the

2:53:02briefing about the numbers just to make

2:53:04sure that it's all crystal clear on how

2:53:06much the total cost for this for

2:53:08Paradise Park. And I think just also

2:53:10using this time to highlight all the

2:53:13investments that the city has made at

2:53:15Paradise Park, which includes, you know,

2:53:17the playground equipment, new restrooms,

2:53:21uh, gated areas along with this bridge

2:53:24that will make sure that folks have

2:53:25access to use the trail system at

2:53:28Paradise Park. So, I just wanted to see

2:53:29if you could put that on the record for

2:53:30me. And other than that, I didn't have

2:53:32any additional questions unless any

2:53:34other council members do.

2:53:35>> Yeah, for sure. uh Jonathan Smith,

2:53:37senior civil engineer, public works for

2:53:39the record. I'll answer the first part

2:53:41of this and then I'll turn it over to

2:53:42Matt to kind of talk about the the whole

2:53:44overview of the park and what we've done

2:53:46there and accomplished over the years.

2:53:48So, yeah, this project came in a little

2:53:50bit over budget. It's hard to to use

2:53:52comps on for a bridge project like this.

2:53:55We used one that was maybe 10 years ago

2:53:58um and then used, you know, um

2:54:03>> we inflated the the cost for the the

2:54:0510-year gap that we had, it did come in

2:54:07higher because we didn't have

2:54:08geotechnical investigations for that

2:54:10project. So once we had everything in

2:54:12place, the span of the bridge was

2:54:13slightly larger, the digging was

2:54:15slightly tougher, construction costs

2:54:17have gone gone up, and um all those

2:54:19factors put into one built the project

2:54:22cost up. So that's that's the request

2:54:24for the additional funds on this agenda.

2:54:27>> Does that answer that?

2:54:29>> That does answer that first question

2:54:30>> and I'll I'm going to turn it over to

2:54:32Matt maybe talk about the the park. So

2:54:36>> welcome Mr. Brazina.

2:54:38>> Hey good afternoon I believe now. Yes.

2:54:40>> Um Matt Brazina, parks manager uh for

2:54:42the parks and recreation department. Um

2:54:45I would so to answer your question about

2:54:47improvements I would say over the last

2:54:49six or seven years um we've made quite a

2:54:52few strides. Um we started in I believe

2:54:552020 or 2021 with the installation of

2:54:58lighted football courts uh in the east

2:55:00parking lot u that really brought a lot

2:55:02of um soccer style athletics to the to

2:55:06the park. Um, after that, we improved

2:55:09the the playground and restroom area in

2:55:12the northwest corner of the park. Uh, I

2:55:15believe that project was roughly $2.1

2:55:18million. Um, a very expansive uh

2:55:23interactive and inclusive playground,

2:55:26um, Ninja Warrior style fitness course,

2:55:28and then a two-sided singleuse park

2:55:31restroom. Uh after that uh this year we

2:55:34just completed the the resurfacing and

2:55:37reconstruction of the parking lot at the

2:55:40activity center. Um and I believe that's

2:55:45on top of that we we also completed a

2:55:47park master plan uh to kind of get a

2:55:50comprehensive look at what we need to

2:55:51complete in the future years.

2:55:53>> Awesome. Thanks so much. Yeah, I just

2:55:55wanted to put all those on the record

2:55:57and highlight all the work that we've

2:55:58done to make sure our seniors and

2:56:00families have a great place to recreate.

2:56:03If nobody has any other questions, I'll

2:56:05move to approve that consent item.

2:56:08>> Okay, we have a motion and a second. All

2:56:09those in favor say I.

2:56:10>> I.

2:56:11>> I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Thank you

2:56:13both so much. We'll move on to agenda

2:56:15item B13, I believe.

2:56:19>> Yes. Thank you, Council Member or Vice

2:56:21Mayor Martinez. I was just going to have

2:56:23Miss Burner come up and talk to us about

2:56:26this art project in Cyan Park.

2:56:30And Miss Burner, if you could just tell

2:56:31us where the budget comes from, the

2:56:33background on that. And this is just a

2:56:35really exciting um pair of artists that

2:56:39I think is they're going to bring

2:56:40something really unique and beautiful to

2:56:42this park. So, I just wanted to

2:56:43highlight it a little bit.

2:56:45>> Absolutely. Good afternoon, Megan

2:56:47Burner, arts and culture manager. For

2:56:49the record, um, this item is for

2:56:52approval of Riley Mosaics LLC. This

2:56:55consists of artists Robin Riley and

2:56:57Jason Butler for the Cyan Park Public

2:56:59Art Project. Uh, the funding for this

2:57:02project is coming from residential

2:57:03construction tax. It's part of our 2%

2:57:06for public art ordinance. Um so the arts

2:57:10and culture advisory board assembled a

2:57:12task force uh that consisted of arts and

2:57:15culture advisory board members,

2:57:17community members. Uh they helped

2:57:20develop a call for artists. We did an

2:57:22initial survey of the community to see

2:57:25what kind of art they would like. We

2:57:27hung flyers in the park with QR codes um

2:57:30and got some feedback that way. and we

2:57:32put that information into the call and

2:57:34the community specifically said that

2:57:36they would like to see things like

2:57:39functional art such as shade structures,

2:57:43something they could sit on or interact

2:57:45with like benches. Um, and so these two

2:57:49artists

2:57:51um in their finalist presentation, they

2:57:53were narrowed down to three finalists.

2:57:54These two artists submitted a propo an

2:57:57initial proposal. So, the artwork has

2:57:59not been designed or created yet. Um,

2:58:01but they are a team of artists. One of

2:58:04them works in glass, which I know sounds

2:58:08scary for public art, but um, [laughter]

2:58:11she does mosaics and also they've been

2:58:14exploring this thicker glass that is

2:58:17very unbreakable. Um, and she has teamed

2:58:20up with the uh, like a metal artist who

2:58:23does more structural things. They've

2:58:26worked together on projects before and

2:58:28they are proposing to create functional

2:58:31artworks that combine seating with shade

2:58:33structures um that will be playful and

2:58:36have these canopies that could take the

2:58:39form of flora, local flora and things

2:58:42like that. But they will have the glass

2:58:45in the shade canopy that will create

2:58:48these beautiful patterns of light that

2:58:50will reflect on the ground and things

2:58:53like that. So, um

2:58:56I'm happy to answer any further

2:58:57questions.

2:58:58>> I don't have another question. Thank you

2:59:00for that overview. I just wanted to make

2:59:01sure that um the public knows that there

2:59:05will be a community engagement by these

2:59:07artists in the neighborhood in the park.

2:59:11And so, I want to make sure I mean it

2:59:12was hard to get people to volunteer to

2:59:15be on the the task force. So, I want to

2:59:18make sure that we're talking about it

2:59:19and encouraging people that want to be

2:59:21involved in the community engagement on

2:59:23this artwork to please follow the

2:59:26project, stay in touch with me, and I

2:59:28will um share as much information as I

2:59:30can on social media so we can follow

2:59:32along.

2:59:32>> Wonderful. Thank you. Yes, I forgot to

2:59:34mention that, but there is community

2:59:35engagement that will take place before

2:59:38the final design of this artwork. And

2:59:40yes, we will make sure that we get as

2:59:43many folks involved as we can.

2:59:45>> Thank you, Miss Burner. I'd like to make

2:59:47a motion to approve unless somebody else

2:59:49has comments.

2:59:50>> Oh, I'll second and just say it sounds

2:59:52absolutely beautiful.

2:59:54>> Great. We have a motion to second. All

2:59:56those in favor say I.

2:59:57>> I.

2:59:57>> I. Any opposed?

2:59:59>> Motion passes unanimously.

3:00:02Okay. I believe those are all our pulled

3:00:03consent items. Perfect. With that, we

3:00:06will close out all our B items and move

3:00:08on to C1.

3:00:10>> Um um excuse me. Vice Mayor. Yeah. I

3:00:13think um the mayor said that we have a

3:00:16um attorney client.

3:00:17>> We do.

3:00:18>> And um she asked if we could take a

3:00:19break at this point.

3:00:21>> Is that so? We

3:00:23>> It's only I think 20 minutes or so, 30.

3:00:25>> We we have an attorney client agendaized

3:00:27uh for earlier. It took a little bit

3:00:29longer to get here. So, if we could go

3:00:31ahead and and

3:00:33take a break and then handle that and

3:00:35then come back for

3:00:36>> 30 minutes enough time.

3:00:38>> 30 minutes should be plenty.

3:00:39>> Okay. We will reconvene in 30 minutes.

3:00:41Thank you.

3:01:05>> [music]

3:01:14>> What home means Nevada to me is is just

3:01:16that it's always a place that I find

3:01:19comfort [music] and soulless. We travel

3:01:21a lot. We camp a lot and I just love

3:01:24coming home. Home means Nevada for so

3:01:27many reasons. My name is Scott Dunce and

3:01:29I'm the owner of the Home Means Nevada

3:01:31company which was formerly Reno Envy. I

3:01:34grew up in the Bay Area and I went to

3:01:36school at UNR and my thought was that I

3:01:39would spend two years in Reno and then I

3:01:42would go back home. But after the two

3:01:44years I just fell in love with the

3:01:45place. I love the people, the community.

3:01:47It's just been awesome. I was talking to

3:01:50a friend. I was giving him my address

3:01:52and so I told him Scott Dunya D Reno

3:01:55Envy 89523 and he's like Reno Envy. I'm

3:01:58like Reno Envy. So, it was kind of at

3:02:00that [music] moment, that was our aha

3:02:02moment where I realized that the state

3:02:04abbreviation for Nevada, envy, sounded

3:02:07like the word envy. So, [music] that's

3:02:09where it all started from. What's great

3:02:12about the downtown Reno [music]

3:02:14community is that, you know, people

3:02:16believe in Reno. You know, we have

3:02:18something here. People really love this

3:02:20community as much as I do and and people

3:02:22really resonated with the idea of having

3:02:24like a local brand. Uh downtown Reno

3:02:26honestly has has been a challenge, but

3:02:28we're a small business and we've been

3:02:29down here since 2008. And honestly, if

3:02:32we can do it, you know, there's a lot of

3:02:34opportunity out there and we kind of

3:02:35wanted to prove to people that retail

3:02:37works. In 2012, rebranded ourselves and

3:02:40we went from Reno Envy and renamed our

3:02:43our brand the Home Meats Nevada Company.

3:02:45Kind of try to support the local artists

3:02:47in the community [music] by bringing

3:02:48their products in and selling them on on

3:02:50their behalf. We have all sorts of great

3:02:53stuff. We have coffee from Glory Cloud.

3:02:55We have local honey. It's important for

3:02:57us to collaborate too with local

3:02:59celebrities. Christa Palmer is an

3:03:01Olympic athlete [music] and we have the

3:03:02opportunity to partner with her and

3:03:04create her own authentic Christa Palmer

3:03:07Battlebborne t-shirt.

3:03:09>> My name is Christa Palmer, Nevada's

3:03:11Olympic diver. This is a really special

3:03:13company to me because my roots are in

3:03:16Nevada. I grew up down in Carson City. I

3:03:19truly feel this connection between home

3:03:21meanings Nevada and my story. This has

3:03:24been a really cool partnership that I've

3:03:26been able to develop over the years with

3:03:28Scott projection of Reno downtown. I

3:03:31really see it opening up more doors for

3:03:33people [music] to continue to get

3:03:35outside, continue to take their dogs for

3:03:37a walk and enjoy the Reno River Walk to

3:03:41be able to have space to enjoy those

3:03:44lovely afternoons. I think that's where

3:03:46I kind of see the progression of Reno

3:03:48going and for more people to enjoy what

3:03:50Reno is. It's truly a treasure here.

3:03:53>> People believe in Reno and we believe in

3:03:55Reno. There's so much opportunity in so

3:03:57many different types of people in

3:03:58[music] downtown Reno. And the city of

3:04:00Reno has been great with this

3:04:01partnership with the visitor center. The

3:04:03RSCVA has been great. [music]

3:04:05The collaborations that we do with the

3:04:07community, with the university, with

3:04:10Christa Palmer, Olympic athlete. It

3:04:12really is about a community that kind of

3:04:14binds us together. [music] If we didn't

3:04:16have that support, we wouldn't be able

3:04:18to survive in downtown Reno. I've always

3:04:20felt like Reno's been kind of our little

3:04:22secret, and we love to share that

3:04:23secret. We'd love to see Reno grow and

3:04:25prosper. Great [music] for shopping for

3:04:27friends, great for gift giving. So, come

3:04:30on down, visit us, check it out. It's

3:04:31been a while.

3:04:32>> Come visit downtown Reno and see what

3:04:35you're missing. [music]

3:04:49>> [music]

3:04:56>> My name is Par tools and I am the CEO

3:04:58and founder of Tools Development.

3:05:03>> I grew up in the Bay Area, Middle Park

3:05:05and I moved to Reno in 1994. met a

3:05:08pretty girl and chased her down and uh

3:05:11got married and decided to put down

3:05:12roots here and uh ended up being a

3:05:14really vibrant place for us to not only

3:05:16do business but grow a family and it's

3:05:18been a a [music] wonderful decision.

3:05:20But always had the desire to start my

3:05:22own business and in 2016 started Tulsa

3:05:25development company with the goal to

3:05:27focus on all product types of real

3:05:29estate but with extra effort downtown.

3:05:31We bought a portfolio of office

3:05:33buildings with the uh goal to redevelop

3:05:35those buildings and really try to push

3:05:37downtown Reno into its next level. We

3:05:40also did that with Midtown. We bought a

3:05:41portfolio of retail buildings turned

3:05:43that into what is now a very vibrant

3:05:45area.

3:05:47People always ask me, "Is Reno the next

3:05:49Portland? Is it the next Austin?" My

3:05:51response has always been, "We're Rita.

3:05:53We have this really interesting quilt."

3:05:55I love the fact we're not trying to turn

3:05:56it into somewhere else, but that we're

3:05:58allowing it to evolve in its own really

3:06:00unique way. Private investment in

3:06:02downtown's hard, but it's also

3:06:05incredible

3:06:14mixeduse development. We have a good

3:06:16foundation of retail, good foundation of

3:06:18office, good residential arts and

3:06:20culture. We have a river that runs

3:06:22through it. It's important for us to

3:06:24move where the market is telling us to

3:06:26go, but also to be more than just

3:06:28financially worth it. I think it's

3:06:30important to take a longerterm view when

3:06:32you're redeveloping and trying to

3:06:34obviously not only making returns for

3:06:36your investors, but also making more

3:06:38social returns for the community itself.

3:06:41I think we have a collaborative culture

3:06:43here. We're part of the fabric of this

3:06:45community. These businesses are our

3:06:46friends. You know, we don't have big

3:06:48commutes. People want to be together.

3:06:50We'll never leave Raiden. [music]

3:06:54This office portfolio and the Midtown

3:06:56portfolio right before co I've seen the

3:06:59vibrancy of downtown. It hasn't been as

3:07:02bad as it could. And now we're prepared

3:07:03to continue to move it forward with with

3:07:05good development.

3:07:09It's easy to stay in suburbia, but

3:07:11certainly not as fun. and you haven't

3:07:13come to downtown Reno yet, please come

3:07:16visit us. [music] I promise you, you

3:07:17will make it your Friday night date

3:07:19night. It is one of the most vibrant,

3:07:21special cities on the west. I can't wait

3:07:24for you to experience it if you [music]

3:07:25haven't done it yet.

3:07:30[music]

3:07:46The Pioneer Center is a nonprofit

3:07:48performing arts center located in the

3:07:50heart of downtown Reno. We are in an

3:07:52absolutely gorgeous, one-of-a-kind

3:07:54historic building right on the banks of

3:07:56the Truckucky River. Our building was

3:07:58constructed in the 1960s, so we have

3:08:00been open and operating as a nonprofit

3:08:02performing arts center for over 56 years

3:08:05now. I'm Denise Su. I'm the CEO of the

3:08:07Pioneer Center for the Performing Arts.

3:08:09One of the amazing things about being a

3:08:11community performing arts center is our

3:08:12historic stage is the very first

3:08:14performance opportunity for so many

3:08:16young children in the area. Aspiring

3:08:18young musicians and dancers will perform

3:08:20their first recitals here on our stage.

3:08:22There is an incredible magic when all of

3:08:25those children come into this

3:08:26professional theater for the first time.

3:08:28The feedback we get from those children

3:08:30and from their parents is that it's

3:08:31literally life-changing for them to have

3:08:33those first experiences on our stage.

3:08:35And we know that many of those people

3:08:37choose to stay in this community and

3:08:38build their lives here in Reno as they

3:08:40grow. [music] And they remember those

3:08:42first experiences and what it meant to

3:08:43them. We are quite literally in the

3:08:45bedrock of downtown [music] Reno and

3:08:47we're not going anywhere. And we really

3:08:48have seen and felt a tremendous

3:08:50improvement since the business district

3:08:52has created the downtown Reno

3:08:53partnership. The work of the ambassadors

3:08:56to uh provide casual folks on the street

3:08:59with directions, with assistance. Uh

3:09:02they are the friendliest, most helpful

3:09:04people out in the community. The name is

3:09:06well-earned, Downtown Reno Partnership.

3:09:08We really do feel that they are partners

3:09:10in helping to make downtown the place

3:09:12that we all see in our hearts, that we

3:09:14really know it is. They've just been an

3:09:15incredible asset to downtown and we've

3:09:17been really grateful to work with them.

3:09:19[music]

3:09:19>> My name is Adam Kates and I am the

3:09:21director of community engagement for the

3:09:23Pioneer Center for the Performing Arts.

3:09:25The Pioneer Center is the hub of the

3:09:27performing arts in our region right here

3:09:29in downtown Reno. We are the home to

3:09:32some incredible organizations from the

3:09:34worldclass Reno Philarmonic Orchestra to

3:09:37Arttown who brings in incredible

3:09:39performances from across the world and

3:09:41AVA Ballet Theater who present the

3:09:43annual Nutcracker, a tradition for so

3:09:45many families in Northern Nevada. The

3:09:47Pioneer Center is the place to come for

3:09:50the best of worldclass performances. One

3:09:53thing that I love is the way that the

3:09:55bar and restaurant scene has just

3:09:57[music] exploded over the past decade or

3:10:00so. And many of those incredible

3:10:02restaurants and bars and establishments

3:10:04are right here in downtown Reno. They're

3:10:06right across the street. They're right

3:10:07down the block from us. [music] And it's

3:10:09been really wonderful to have a central

3:10:12gathering place like the Pioneer Center

3:10:14that is also able to engage with many of

3:10:16the restaurants and bars in our region.

3:10:18[music] As the footprint of the city

3:10:20continues to push outward and more

3:10:21incredible folks learn about and want to

3:10:23be part of and want to live here, the

3:10:25heart of Reno remains right here along

3:10:27the river in the core of downtown. This

3:10:30is that unique identity of the city and

3:10:33arts and culture have that unbelievable

3:10:35ability to weave into the fabric of the

3:10:38identity of a city. It's through

3:10:40bringing so many different folks

3:10:42together for so many different kinds of

3:10:44experiences. All authentic, all genuine,

3:10:46all designed to bring you together and

3:10:48uplift each other and to explore what it

3:10:51means to be human together through the

3:10:53arts. There is no limit to what that can

3:10:55do to change people's lives and to

3:10:57enrich a city well into the future. So,

3:10:59whatever the future has in store for

3:11:01Reno, arts and culture are a critical

3:11:03part of our identity. They always have

3:11:05been and they always will be. We at the

3:11:07Pioneer Center, together with all of our

3:11:09friends throughout the arts and culture

3:11:10community here, we will continue to

3:11:12evolve and adapt and explore new ways of

3:11:15making connections. And all of that will

3:11:17continue to happen right here [music] in

3:11:18the heart of downtown along with the

3:11:20other amazing organizations that make up

3:11:22this area with us.

3:11:24>> Downtown Reno is where the best of the

3:11:26performing arts live.

3:11:27>> Downtown Reno is alive with arts,

3:11:29culture, and entertainment. [music]

3:11:48We're the unexpected [music] in a city

3:11:50that never ceases to reinvent itself.

3:11:53It's been a while. Downtown Reno invites

3:11:56you to rise with us again. What's your

3:11:58story?

3:12:03Grab a slice, catch a ride, get a rush,

3:12:06and roll the dice. [music] Step into a

3:12:08world where Nevada's northern lights

3:12:10shine bright and last calls are rare in

3:12:13the city [music] that never sleeps.

3:12:14Where the spirit of the Wild West lives

3:12:16on through daring rapids and rocking out

3:12:19goes beyond the crowds. We are the

3:12:21unexpected in a city that never ceases

3:12:23to reinvent itself. [music] Been a

3:12:25while? Downtown Reno invites you to rise

3:12:28with us again. What's your story?

3:12:37Hi, I'm Reno Fire Chief Dave Cochran.

3:12:39It's an honor to connect with you as we

3:12:41look back on 2024. A year of innovation,

3:12:45strong work, and unwavering dedication

3:12:47to protecting our community. The Reno

3:12:49Fire Department reached incredible

3:12:50milestones, overcame challenges, and

3:12:53made a real impact on the biggest little

3:12:54city. Let's look back at 2024 and the

3:12:57achievements and highlights of the Reno

3:12:59Fire Department.

3:13:00>> 2024's wildland season tested our region

3:13:03with incidents like the Gold Ranch,

3:13:05Davis, and Callahan fires, straining

3:13:08resources from across the West. Although

3:13:10these fires happened [music] just

3:13:12outside Reno city limits, our

3:13:14firefighters stepped up to assist while

3:13:16ensuring our Reno community remained

3:13:18well protected. In 2024, RFD deployed

3:13:22264 resources to more than 100 wildland

3:13:26fires, contributing over 65,000 hours

3:13:29[music] of work. These efforts brought

3:13:31nearly $2 million in reimbursements back

3:13:34to the department. Right here at home,

3:13:36we responded to 51,737

3:13:39calls for service, [music]

3:13:41an increase of over 2,000 from the

3:13:43previous year. Our commitment to service

3:13:45continues to grow along with our

3:13:47community. The safety and training

3:13:49division saw impressive growth in 2024,

3:13:51paving the way for a stronger, more

3:13:53skilled team. We proudly promoted 11

3:13:56captains and eight operators, hired 25

3:13:59new firefighters, and welcome five

3:14:01single roll EMS personnel.

3:14:04This year we ran two three-week fire

3:14:07equipment operator enginemies,

3:14:10one two-eek fire equipment operator

3:14:12truck academy,

3:14:14and a two-week acting captain's academy.

3:14:18These intensive programs help sharpen

3:14:20our skills and prepare our teams for any

3:14:22situation. We also expanded our monthly

3:14:25company level training sessions, [music]

3:14:27introducing specialized active shooter

3:14:29training and wide area search exercises.

3:14:32And through partnerships with

3:14:33surrounding fire departments, [music] we

3:14:35enhanced our response capabilities for

3:14:37wildland fires and hazmat operations.

3:14:40Additionally, we upgraded the training

3:14:42[music] facilities at station 11 with

3:14:44new technology to improve the delivery

3:14:46of our programs, ensuring our team is

3:14:48always ready to meet [music] the demands

3:14:50of our city. The Reno Fire Prevention

3:14:52Bureau experienced significant strides

3:14:54[music] this year in 2024, starting with

3:14:57the appointment of a new fire marshal,

3:14:59three fire captains, and [music] three

3:15:00new fire inspectors.

3:15:02Our team saw great success in our arson

3:15:04investigations, achieving an impressive

3:15:0680% conviction [music] rate, and

3:15:08completed over 6,000 building

3:15:10inspections to help keep Reno safe. For

3:15:12the fourth consecutive year, we hosted

3:15:13our [music] dumpster program thanks to a

3:15:15grant from State Farm. This program

3:15:17helps neighborhoods in the wildland

3:15:19urban interface [music] clear dry

3:15:20vegetation and debris, creating

3:15:22defensible space. Thank you to everyone

3:15:24who participated and helped reduce

3:15:26wildfire risk in our community. In 2024,

3:15:29we were also thrilled to receive nearly

3:15:31245,000 from FEMA's fire prevention and

3:15:34safety grant to develop a community

3:15:36wildfire protection plan. This

3:15:38comprehensive framework will prioritize

3:15:40wildfire mitigation efforts, improve

3:15:42emergency preparedness, and ensure

3:15:44long-term safety for Reno's residents

3:15:46and infrastructure. Keep an eye out in

3:15:48the coming months for ways to get

3:15:49involved. We're excited to collaborate

3:15:51with you in 2024. [music] We work

3:15:54closely with our community partners to

3:15:56update the regional hazard mitigation

3:15:58plan. The plan assesses the potential

3:16:01impact of all prioritized hazards to the

3:16:04region and provides mitigation

3:16:06strategies and actions to reduce such

3:16:08risk. The update ensures the plan

3:16:11remains effective in addressing the

3:16:13evolving needs of our communities. We

3:16:15also prioritized [music] firefighter

3:16:17health with initiatives like our fourth

3:16:19annual cancer screenings and the

3:16:21introduction of the coronary calcium

3:16:24scan. These proactive prevention

3:16:26programs are vital in detecting early

3:16:28markers of heart disease and cancer.

3:16:30Critical steps for firefighters facing

3:16:32heightened [music] risks associated with

3:16:34their profession. Additionally, we

3:16:36launched a groundbreaking pilot program

3:16:38with the Epic Brain Center exploring

3:16:41[music] enhanced mindbody performance

3:16:43treatments. This innovative approach

3:16:45supports firefighters dealing with PTSD

3:16:48and other mental health challenges while

3:16:51empowering them with improved executive

3:16:53function to perform at their best.

3:16:55>> 2024 was a landmark year for the Reno

3:16:58Fire Department Emergency Medical

3:17:00Services Division with 30,649

3:17:04calls for service. Collaboration played

3:17:06a key role in 2024 as we joined forces

3:17:10with regional partners to strengthen our

3:17:12unified response to medical emergencies.

3:17:15We were excited to welcome our new EMS

3:17:18management assistant and expand [music]

3:17:20our specialized training for our single

3:17:22role program. Ensuring our EMS team is

3:17:24always prepared to meet our community's

3:17:26high demand for advanced emergency

3:17:28medical services. We conducted division

3:17:31level training on new medical equipment,

3:17:33including cutting edge video

3:17:34luringoscope blades that are vital in

3:17:36life-saving situations and [music] new

3:17:38medications that can be used to treat

3:17:40various patient presentations by our mid

3:17:43and advanced level providers. We also

3:17:45implemented a new medical charting

3:17:47platform, further enhancing patient

3:17:49care.

3:17:49>> Reno Fire Department's support services

3:17:51division achieved significant milestones

3:17:53in 2024.

3:17:55enhanced vehicle maintenance and repair,

3:17:57increased apparatus safety, and

3:18:00equipment modernization. Through our

3:18:02apparatus replacement program, we added

3:18:04two new brush trucks designed for

3:18:05firefighting in rugged terrain and a

3:18:07state-of-the-art ambulance, ensuring our

3:18:09fleet meets the diverse needs of our

3:18:11community. We also enhanced operations

3:18:14by refining the use of fleet cameras

3:18:16throughout our vehicles. These systems

3:18:17capture critical moments during

3:18:19incidents, training, and daily

3:18:20operations, providing insights that

3:18:22improve safety and support crew

3:18:24education. Our logistics team continues

3:18:26to push innovation forward, adopting

3:18:28advanced [music] battery powered tools

3:18:30on our fire engines and ladder trucks,

3:18:32and improve personal protective

3:18:34equipment. These enhancements extend

3:18:36equipment [music] lifespan, improve

3:18:38functionality, and prioritize

3:18:39firefighter safety. Looking ahead, we're

3:18:42excited to [music] introduce a new heavy

3:18:43rescue apparatus in 2025. The first of

3:18:46its kind for our department since 1986.

3:18:49As an all-risk [music] fire department

3:18:51supporting many different types of

3:18:52incidents, this addition ensures our

3:18:54crews are ready to respond to any

3:18:56emergency, no matter the challenge.

3:18:58>> As we reflect on 2024, Reno Fire

3:19:01Department has much to celebrate. from

3:19:03our interlocal agreement with the Reno

3:19:05Tahoe airport authority enabling us to

3:19:07assume [music] firefighting services

3:19:09across all airport properties and our

3:19:11partnership with Truckucky Meadows Fire

3:19:13and Rescue which now provides automatic

3:19:15aid to ensure the closest resource

3:19:16response to emergencies no matter the

3:19:19jurisdiction. We're building the

3:19:20foundation for continued growth and

3:19:22excellence. I'm pleased to share that we

3:19:25also received the keys to 455 East Sega

3:19:28Street, our future central fire station.

3:19:31We're excited to begin serving you from

3:19:33this state-of-the-art facility in 2027.

3:19:36At RFD, we believe that being part of

3:19:38the community is just as important as

3:19:40responding to emergencies. Whether it's

3:19:42hosting fire safety programs,

3:19:44participating in local events, or

3:19:46building relationships with residents,

3:19:48we strive to be more than the first

3:19:49responders, we're your neighbors,

3:19:51partners, and advocates for a safer

3:19:53region. None of our work would be

3:19:55possible without the dedication of

3:19:57[music] our team and the unwavering

3:19:58support of our Reno City Council, state,

3:20:01and federal representatives. Their

3:20:03commitment ensures RFD is always ready

3:20:05to serve and protect our community. On

3:20:08behalf of the Reno Fire Department,

3:20:10thank you for your trust and support.

3:20:12Together, we accomplished so much in

3:20:132024, and we look forward to an even

3:20:16brighter and safer year ahead. Thank you

3:20:18for standing with us.

3:20:25In an emergency, calling 911 may be

3:20:27necessary. Here are a few things you

3:20:29should know. Call 911 immediately for

3:20:31life-threatening emergencies [music]

3:20:33such as cardiac issues, breathing

3:20:35difficulties, uncontrollable bleeding,

3:20:37or neurological concerns. These can be

3:20:40severe allergic reactions, suspected

3:20:42heart attack or stroke, broken bones, or

3:20:44seizures. The 911 operator will [music]

3:20:47ask you questions. Always stay calm,

3:20:49speak clearly, and provide critical

3:20:51details like location. Do not hang up

3:20:54until [music] you're told to do so.

3:20:56Misuse of 911 can delay help for someone

3:20:58in real danger. Do not call 911 unless

3:21:01it is an emergency. Text 911 is

3:21:03available. Call if you can, text if you

3:21:06can't. Call the non-emergency number for

3:21:08noise complaints, minor issues, or

3:21:10general questions. These are not for

3:21:12911. Calling 911 in an emergency can be

3:21:15stressful. But now you have the

3:21:16knowledge of how to get help quickly and

3:21:18[music] calmly. Stay safe, Reno.

3:21:25Wildfires can [music] spread fast and

3:21:27without warning. They can happen any

3:21:28time of the year in our region, and

3:21:30preparation is essential. Start with an

3:21:32evacuation plan. Know where you'll go,

3:21:35how you'll get there, and how you'll

3:21:36stay in touch with members of your

3:21:38household. Draw a floor plan of your

3:21:40home and identify two exits per room.

3:21:42Choose a safe outside meeting spot and

3:21:45plan for pets or special needs. Sign up

3:21:47for emergency alerts. These real-time

3:21:49updates keep you informed when it

3:21:51matters most. Prepare a go bag with

3:21:54water, non-p perishable food,

3:21:56medications, important documents,

3:21:58[music] and other crucial items that you

3:22:00can't easily replace. To greatly reduce

3:22:02your wildfire risk, harden your home.

3:22:05Clear debris and combustibles within 5

3:22:07ft. Choose multi-pane windows and use

3:22:10fireresistant materials. Creating

3:22:12defensible space is another great way to

3:22:14reduce wildfire [music] risk. Keep

3:22:16vegetation trimmed and maintain a safe

3:22:18buffer around your home. Protect your

3:22:20home. Protect your community. Fire

3:22:23safety starts with you.

3:22:25>> Reno is a beautiful place to live, but

3:22:27we also experience wildfires that can

3:22:28spread fast and without [music] warning.

3:22:30Do you know what to do if you have to

3:22:31evacuate? Do you know where to go? Does

3:22:34everyone in your household know what to

3:22:35do? Let's start with a clear evacuation

3:22:37plan. Create a [music] floor plan of

3:22:39your home, labeling each window and door

3:22:41in every room. Next, identify two ways

3:22:43out of every room, drawing a path

3:22:44[music] for each. It helps to color

3:22:46coordinate, especially for kids. These

3:22:48should point to an outside meeting place

3:22:50like a mailbox, tree, [music] or

3:22:51neighbors house. You don't want the

3:22:53first time you run through your plan to

3:22:55be during an active emergency. Practice

3:22:57this evacuation plan with everyone in

3:22:58your household, [music] including pets.

3:23:00Run through the plan both during the day

3:23:02and at night. Plan for communication if

3:23:04you and your household members are

3:23:05separated. Is it through a text, a phone

3:23:07call? [music] What if they don't have a

3:23:08phone or they lose it during the

3:23:10evacuation? Consider an out of area

3:23:12contact person. Be proactive. Get out

3:23:14early. Don't wait for an [music]

3:23:15evacuation order. If there is a

3:23:17mandatory evacuation order, you must

3:23:19follow it. These orders are issued to

3:23:20keep [music] everyone safe. Protect your

3:23:22home. Protect your community. Fire

3:23:23safety starts with you.

3:23:32As we move into [music] the next budget

3:23:34year, we're excited to share some of the

3:23:36key accomplishments this past year in

3:23:38the biggest little city.

3:23:39>> Whether working to ensure a safe and

3:23:41welcoming [music] community, planning

3:23:42for responsible growth, or maintaining

3:23:44strong fiscal accountability to our

3:23:46residents, our team is dedicated to

3:23:47building a community that people are

3:23:49proud to call home.

3:23:50>> Running a city is no small feat. It

3:23:52takes seven dedicated council members

3:23:54and over 1,700 committed employees to

3:23:56make this city thrive. While you see

3:23:58some of them every day, many are behind

3:24:00the scenes.

3:24:01>> But we all have one thing in common. We

3:24:04make Reno more than just livable.

3:24:06>> We make it lovable.

3:24:13>> Ensuring the infrastructure in our

3:24:15community stands the test of time is

3:24:17critical to obtaining a vibrant and

3:24:19resilient city. The utility services

3:24:21team oversees storm water, waste water,

3:24:24and recycled water throughout the city,

3:24:26including the sanitary sewer system. I

3:24:29know sewer is one of those things that

3:24:31people don't often talk about, but sewer

3:24:33systems play a crucial role in

3:24:34protecting public health [music] and our

3:24:36environment. One important element in

3:24:38the sanitary sewer system is lift

3:24:39stations, which are needed in low-lying

3:24:42areas to pump sewage up to a gravity

3:24:44sewer line. All of our sewer lines

3:24:46convey sewage and ultimately end up at

3:24:48our wastewater treatment facilities.

3:24:50Over the last 5 years, our team

3:24:52evaluated 27 public lift stations in our

3:24:55community and determined that some

3:24:56needed major rehabilitation. Since the

3:24:59evaluation, the city has successfully

3:25:01[music] rehabilitated five lift stations

3:25:03and completed the design improvements

3:25:05for those seven remaining stations in

3:25:07need of rehabilitation. These remaining

3:25:10lift stations will be constructed in the

3:25:12next two years to ensure the

3:25:14sustainability of the systems for years

3:25:16to come. Since 1995, City Reno Council

3:25:19has made street maintenance and

3:25:20rehabilitation a major priority. The

3:25:23public works team maintains a pavement

3:25:25management system to evaluate the

3:25:26condition [music] and serviceable life

3:25:28of over 755 miles of streets. This

3:25:31system allows [music] us to plan for

3:25:33preventative maintenance and major

3:25:35rehabilitation projects based on

3:25:36priority. Maintaining infrastructure

3:25:38such as roads is the job of the

3:25:40maintenance and operations team. This

3:25:42last year, the streets division

3:25:44maintained 755 miles of paved roads.

3:25:47That includes 37,000 mi of road being

3:25:50plowed, over 6,000 potholes repaired,

3:25:53and over 12 million square ft of cracks

3:25:55sealed or filled. Our teams work round

3:25:57the clock when needed to ensure that

3:25:59residents can get where they need to go

3:26:00safely, rain, snow, or shine. at the

3:26:03city of Reno in our sewer and storm

3:26:05drain division. There's 50 of us that

3:26:07take care of just over 800 miles of

3:26:09[music] sanitary sewer that includes 35

3:26:12lift stations. Our sewer and storm drain

3:26:14division in the city of Reno ensures

3:26:16safe maintenance for over 600 miles

3:26:18[music] of storm water lines. It's our

3:26:20aggressive preventative maintenance

3:26:21program that ensures that your system

3:26:23will respond properly to prevent

3:26:24overflows and flooding, keeping our

3:26:26residents and our environment safe and

3:26:28sound.

3:26:31The fleet management team maintains over

3:26:33850 pieces of equipment, including

3:26:36police cars and other emergency response

3:26:38equipment. This year, the fleet

3:26:40management team was ranked in the top

3:26:42100 best fleets in the Americas. And

3:26:44doing work in-house saves the city

3:26:47millions of dollars each and every year.

3:26:49>> And our final areas of responsibility is

3:26:51facility maintenance. We perform a wide

3:26:54variety of repairs and remodels and

3:26:56preventative maintenance on over 200

3:26:57city-owned buildings. And just this last

3:26:59year, we completed a seismic retrofit of

3:27:02city hall, which ensures the safety of

3:27:04both staff and the public during

3:27:05earthquakes.

3:27:06>> Parks, recreation, and open space are

3:27:08vital [music] for creating healthy,

3:27:10sustainable, and vibrant communities.

3:27:12Last November, the Reno City Council

3:27:14adopted the parks, recreation, and open

3:27:17space master plan. The plan identifies

3:27:19top priorities and an implementation

3:27:21strategy to improve existing parks,

3:27:23[music] trails, and recreational

3:27:25facilities, identifying and acquiring

3:27:28land for new parks [music] and

3:27:29recreational spaces, activating the

3:27:31Truckucky River Corridor and downtown

3:27:33spaces, and expanding recreational

3:27:35programming.

3:27:37>> But the crowning achievement this year

3:27:38for the parks team is the Moana Springs

3:27:40Community Aquatics and Fitness Center.

3:27:43Opening in August, this 52,000 square

3:27:45foot facility will include a 50 meter

3:27:48indoor competition pool, multi-use

3:27:50indoor recreation pool, an outdoor

3:27:53[music] soaking pool, 5,000 ft² fitness

3:27:56facility, and more. This project

3:27:58represents a vital investment in the

3:28:00health and well-being of our community

3:28:02for generations to come. As we approach

3:28:05the completion of two major projects in

3:28:06our community, the public safety center

3:28:08and the Moana Springs Aquatic [music]

3:28:10Center, it's important to highlight the

3:28:11clean energy components of both

3:28:13projects. At Moana Springs, the city

3:28:15received a community project funding

3:28:17award to install solar and was selected

3:28:19by Envy Energy to be a community-based

3:28:22solar resource host site at the same

3:28:24location. [music] The Moana Springs

3:28:25parking lot features solar covered

3:28:27parking to support this project. and the

3:28:29public safety center will include

3:28:31rooftop solar as well as battery storage

3:28:33to provide energy savings. By investing

3:28:35in clean energy, we are moving towards a

3:28:37cleaner, [music] more resilient and

3:28:38equitable energy future for our

3:28:40community.

3:28:46Reno is one of the best places to live,

3:28:48work, and play. So, we know that growth

3:28:50in our community is inevitable. At the

3:28:52city, we are focused on responsible

3:28:54growth to achieve balanced and long-term

3:28:57development that benefits all residents.

3:28:58[music]

3:28:59Last year, the city of Reno completed

3:29:01the ward redistricting process that

3:29:03transitioned our community from five to

3:29:05six wards. Redistricting ensures that

3:29:08each elected official represents

3:29:10approximately the same number of

3:29:11residents. Final maps for the new wards

3:29:14were voted on by the Reno City Council

3:29:16following a community engagement process

3:29:18that spanned across four months and

3:29:20included 17 opportunities for residents

3:29:22to participate. The new ward maps will

3:29:25go into effect following the 2024

3:29:27election cycle. We encourage you to

3:29:29visit our online mapping tool to learn

3:29:31more about the new wards.

3:29:33>> Responsible growth means long-term

3:29:34planning. In January of 2021, the city

3:29:37adopted a new zoning code. And in June

3:29:39of 2022, the city initiated an amendment

3:29:42[music] to address outstanding cleanup

3:29:44items. This includes everything from

3:29:46grammatical errors to accounting for

3:29:48updates [music] in state law.

3:29:49Development services has spent the past

3:29:51year working through these changes and

3:29:53seeking public input. Final adoption of

3:29:56an updated zoning code is anticipated

3:29:58early next year.

3:29:59>> The city of Reno is working with our

3:30:01regional partners to manage water

3:30:02resources sustainably for future

3:30:04generations through the One Water Nevada

3:30:07initiative. This program is working to

3:30:09ensure there is enough water available

3:30:11to meet the needs of all users while

3:30:13protecting and even improving the

3:30:14region's water quality and environmental

3:30:17integrity. A key element of this project

3:30:19[music] is the advanced purified water

3:30:21facility at American Flats. With

3:30:23construction expected to begin in the

3:30:25near future, this facility will apply

3:30:27state-of-the-art water purification

3:30:28processes and provide the region with

3:30:30the potential for over 2 million gallons

3:30:32of highquality drinking water daily.

3:30:39At the City of Reno, we are focused on

3:30:41ensuring that everyone has access to

3:30:43safe and affordable housing. The city of

3:30:46Reno helps to improve housing stability

3:30:48by providing rental and deposit

3:30:50assistance for all residents, including

3:30:53seniors and veterans. In the past six

3:30:55months, [music] the team has assisted

3:30:57584 households with rent, supported 175

3:31:02costburdened seniors, and dispersed

3:31:03[music] $1.5 million in rental

3:31:06assistance. The city of Reno is a leader

3:31:08on the affordable housing front. Back in

3:31:102019, the state law changed and since

3:31:13then, the city has been allowed to enact

3:31:15an ordinance that has given us the right

3:31:17to wave or reduce fees for sewer

3:31:20connection fees and building permit fees

3:31:22as long as the project is associated

3:31:24with an affordable housing development.

3:31:26And to date, [music] Reno has approved

3:31:28rejections and waiverss totaling almost

3:31:308 million. This has contributed to 1,800

3:31:34new affordable housing units that are

3:31:36moving forward. City Council has also

3:31:39added conditional requirements for

3:31:40certain development projects and those

3:31:42are to help pay for affordable housing.

3:31:45This has been triggered on five

3:31:46development projects. This is estimated

3:31:48to generate over $4 million in funds

3:31:51which will support affordable housing.

3:31:53Last year, the city of Reno supported

3:31:56the development of 492 affordable

3:31:58[music] units through funding programs

3:32:01and city incentives, including federal

3:32:04home funds, volume cap allocation, and

3:32:07sewer [music] fee reductions.

3:32:09Developments that were supported include

3:32:11the Marval Way Apartments, Copper Mesa

3:32:14[music] Apartments, Oravada Street

3:32:16Senior Apartments, and the Ridge at Sun

3:32:18Valley. And while increasing the number

3:32:21of affordable housing units is a

3:32:22priority, the team is also working to

3:32:24invest in low to moderate income

3:32:26neighborhoods. In the past year, the

3:32:28city funded $1 million in park and

3:32:30pedestrian safety renovations and

3:32:32supported key projects including park

3:32:35improvements at Robin Hood, Dick Taylor,

3:32:38Paradise, and Mayor's Parks.

3:32:45Downtown Reno is evolving as our

3:32:47community transition from a region

3:32:49focused on tourism to a more

3:32:50economically diverse city that supports

3:32:53urban living, transportation, social

3:32:55gathering, and [music] small businesses.

3:32:57>> Many consider Virginia Street to be the

3:32:58heart of our downtown and the Virginia

3:33:00Street placemaking study reinforced

3:33:02that. Gil design firm over three phases

3:33:04of community engagement developed a

3:33:06strategy and a long-term plan of what

3:33:08our Virginia street and our downtown

3:33:09could look like. City Council approved

3:33:11the placemaking study last fall and

3:33:13identified $2.5 million in state and

3:33:16local fiscal recovery funds to implement

3:33:18phase one of the study. This year, state

3:33:20and local fiscal recovery funds were

3:33:22also utilized to create the Restore Reno

3:33:24facade and tenant improvement program.

3:33:27The program provided matching funds to

3:33:29property owners and tenants for facade

3:33:30improvements and interior upgrades. 39

3:33:33businesses were awarded matching grants

3:33:35with the total economic improvement

3:33:36value of the combined projects being

3:33:38$5.7 million.

3:33:40>> At the same time, the team partnered

3:33:42with the regional transportation

3:33:43commission to develop the downtown

3:33:45microobility plan, enhancing downtown

3:33:48roadway networks to improve safety for

3:33:50all users and create a more welcoming

3:33:52environment for pedestrians, bicyclists,

3:33:54and other micro modes of transportation.

3:33:56Design is currently underway for this

3:33:58project and construction is anticipated

3:34:00in 2026. And no discussion of the

3:34:03downtown area is complete without

3:34:05addressing the Truckucky River corridor.

3:34:07This year, city council approved the use

3:34:10of state and local fiscal recovery funds

3:34:12to make improvements along the Truckucky

3:34:14River path, including activation

3:34:16efforts, enhanced safety with better

3:34:18lighting, paint refresh, path

3:34:20improvements, and more.

3:34:26Reno is committed to building a

3:34:28community where all residents feel

3:34:30welcome, safe, and able to fully

3:34:31participate in their government.

3:34:33Providing access to city programs and

3:34:35services [music] is critical to building

3:34:37a strong community. From improving ramp

3:34:40access to city hall to the addition of

3:34:42UBO3 and listen everywhere devices, we

3:34:45are working to make government more

3:34:47accessible for everyone. Throughout the

3:34:49year, our team works with community

3:34:51partners [music]

3:34:51to host celebrations that embrace,

3:34:54honor, and recognize the diverse

3:34:56cultures represented in the biggest

3:34:58little city. This includes the Black

3:35:00History Month celebration in City Plaza

3:35:03and the Asian-American, Native Hawaiian,

3:35:05and Pacific Islander Heritage Month

3:35:07celebration at Wingfield Park. Building

3:35:09a welcoming community requires

3:35:11intentional efforts to embrace

3:35:13diversity, inclusivity, and create

3:35:15opportunities for all residents to

3:35:17thrive.

3:35:23The safety, health, and well-being of

3:35:25all residents is our number one priority

3:35:27as we work to build a community we are

3:35:29proud to call home.

3:35:30>> The Reno Fire Department provides all

3:35:32risk service to the citizens and

3:35:33visitors of the biggest little city.

3:35:36Last year, the team ran almost 50,000

3:35:38calls, a record high for the department.

3:35:40This includes everything from emergency

3:35:42medical response and water rescue

3:35:43missions to all types of fires,

3:35:45including structure, brush, and vehicle,

3:35:47to name a few. The team continues to

3:35:49meet the needs of our growing community

3:35:51by increasing staffing and resources for

3:35:52the department, maintain the strongest

3:35:54training program in the region,

3:35:56upgrading equipment through the fire

3:35:57apparatus replacement program, and

3:35:59investing in proactive fire prevention

3:36:01measures. We are excited to announce

3:36:03that plans are already underway for

3:36:04construction of a new central fire

3:36:06station that will be located in the

3:36:08heart of downtown. The 70,000 foot

3:36:10facility will house administrative and

3:36:12fire personnel with the ability to

3:36:13respond with up to five separate crews

3:36:16to serve the busiest part of our city.

3:36:18We look forward to its completion in

3:36:192027.

3:36:20>> The Reno Police Department boasts 354

3:36:23sworn staff members. To meet the growing

3:36:25needs of our community, we added 43 new

3:36:28and dedicated officers to the ranks

3:36:31along with the hiring of seven lateral

3:36:32officers from other departments

3:36:34throughout the country. Last year, our

3:36:36patrol teams responded to over 72,000

3:36:39calls for service. The traffic team

3:36:42responded to 2,971

3:36:44accidents. Victim services served over

3:36:482,300 victims and the investigation

3:36:51section was assigned 3,762

3:36:54cases. These cases covered offenses from

3:36:57property crimes to crimes against

3:36:58persons. In September, the department

3:37:00launched a new data-driven initiative to

3:37:02improve crime and blight in downtown.

3:37:04The directed engagement, enforcement,

3:37:06and deployment strategy, affectionately

3:37:08known as deeds, has been in operation

3:37:10for just over six months. In that time,

3:37:12we have seen a 12% decrease in the

3:37:14citizen initiated calls for service, a

3:37:1755% decrease in vehicle versus

3:37:19pedestrian crashes and a 29% decrease in

3:37:22commercial burglaries. We excited to

3:37:24announce in August of this year, we will

3:37:25celebrate the opening of our new public

3:37:27safety center in downtown Reno.

3:37:29>> The public safety center will serve as

3:37:30the headquarters for the Reno Police

3:37:32Department. Located in the former Reno

3:37:34Gazette Journal Building, this facility

3:37:36will be able to provide a swift

3:37:37emergency response to our community.

3:37:39This state-of-the-art facility is double

3:37:41the size of the existing station and

3:37:43provides exciting new features such as

3:37:45expanded public parking, private

3:37:47interview areas, community engagement,

3:37:49meeting space, and improved safety and

3:37:52security features to ensure the building

3:37:53will stand the test of time.

3:37:55>> A fast emergency response would be

3:37:57impossible without the crucial work of

3:37:59our Reno dispatchers. Last year, our

3:38:01dispatch team answered over 500,000

3:38:04calls, serving as the vital link between

3:38:06individuals in need of assistance and

3:38:08emergency service providers. And this

3:38:10last year, the cities of Reno and Sparks

3:38:13along with Wo County and REMA came

3:38:15together to identify a unified computer

3:38:17aided dispatch program that will deploy

3:38:20the nearest and most appropriate

3:38:21resources to an emergency. The

3:38:24technology will be launched in 2025,

3:38:26improving emergency response for the

3:38:28entire region. Our

3:38:35staff is made up of talented [music] and

3:38:38dedicated people who are passionate

3:38:41about the biggest little city. We've

3:38:44built a workplace filled with integrity,

3:38:47positivity, collaboration, [music] and

3:38:50diversity. an organization that has been

3:38:53nominated as one of the [music] best

3:38:55places to work in Northern Nevada for

3:38:58three years running and was the first

3:39:00organization in Northern Nevada to be

3:39:02recognized [music] as one of the best

3:39:04places for working parents. Our

3:39:07employees have endless opportunities to

3:39:10make a positive [music] impact in our

3:39:12community. The people and stories behind

3:39:15our programs are why we take [music]

3:39:17pride in our jobs and why we love this

3:39:20city. When we proudly look at the

3:39:22community we've built, we know we are

3:39:25just getting started.

3:39:34We've had a lot of great accomplishments

3:39:36this last year, but the work isn't done.

3:39:39As we begin the next fiscal year, be on

3:39:41the lookout for some major projects.

3:39:43>> Soon, we'll be opening the new public

3:39:45safety center and the Moana Springs

3:39:47Community Aquatics and Fitness Center.

3:39:49These landmark projects will serve

3:39:50generations of Renoites for years to

3:39:52come. We hope you'll join us for both

3:39:54celebrations.

3:39:55>> And keep an eye on downtown as we

3:39:56continue to focus on revitalization

3:39:58using the input and feedback we receive

3:40:00[music] from our community. You'll see

3:40:02improvements to the Riverwalk,

3:40:03activation of Virginia Street, and

3:40:05improvements for pedestrians and

3:40:06microobility users alike. [music]

3:40:08>> To keep up to date on everything that's

3:40:10happening at the city, check out our

3:40:11website at reno.gov and follow us on X,

3:40:14[music] Facebook, or Instagram at City

3:40:16of Reno. until next year.

3:40:32>> Every day you see something new, you

3:40:34meet somebody new. My wife sometimes is

3:40:36like, "How do all these people know

3:40:38you?" You know, I talk to them every

3:40:40single day.

3:40:42>> Playing a role in the community has

3:40:43always been something that's close to

3:40:45home. We exist to create a safer,

3:40:48friendlier, and cleaner downtown.

3:40:50>> It's all about helping others. Anybody

3:40:52that I can help, I love helping them.

3:40:54>> I'm a helpful person. I like to help

3:40:56people if I can, just like I like people

3:40:58to help me if I needed it.

3:41:00>> I always go to bed thinking we did

3:41:02something good today.

3:41:03>> It's very rewarding work.

3:41:06There's so much that downtown has to

3:41:08offer the city of Reno. It kind of has a

3:41:10little bit of everything here, which is

3:41:11what I like.

3:41:12>> People fall in love with it. The river

3:41:14is beautiful. You could fly fish it. You

3:41:17could swim it. You could float it. It's

3:41:19just beautiful. It's really special.

3:41:21>> People are nice down [music] here. I

3:41:22mean, to be able to bring our families

3:41:24down here feels good.

3:41:26>> I like my team. I like the people. I

3:41:29like the community. I think we all on

3:41:32one page help others.

3:41:38>> Do you want to make a difference in your

3:41:40neighborhood? The city of Reno's [music]

3:41:41six neighborhood advisory boards are

3:41:44your chance to shape the future of your

3:41:46community. From parks and public safety

3:41:48to development projects, your voice

3:41:50matters. [music] Joining an AB is easy

3:41:53and it's a great way to connect with

3:41:54neighbors and city leaders while making

3:41:56Reno an even

3:41:57>> Good afternoon. I was going to say good

3:41:58morning.

3:41:59>> Applications are open.

3:42:00>> Not any longer. Um,

3:42:03okay. Madame clerk,

3:42:08uh we are going to resume the meeting

3:42:11for the record.

3:42:13And um I would like to request that we

3:42:17take your presentation first and then

3:42:20take public comment so that they can

3:42:22comment on your presentation.

3:42:24>> Perfect. Okay. Um

3:42:27Okay.

3:42:29Go right ahead. Take it away.

3:42:31>> Madame Mayor, thank you for the

3:42:33opportunity. Madam manager,

3:42:34distinguished counsel Cory Srino for the

3:42:36record, chief of your Reno Police

3:42:37Department. Uh it's an opportunity today

3:42:40to slow things down, to have a

3:42:42conversation, to talk about fact, to

3:42:44talk about fiction, to talk about what

3:42:46this is and what this isn't. And I

3:42:48appreciate the opportunity to uh conduct

3:42:50this presentation in front of all of

3:42:52you. I know your time is precious. I

3:42:53know that this is a political uh

3:42:55sensitive topic. and I want to make sure

3:42:57that we are making good decisions based

3:42:58upon intelligence, based upon best

3:43:00practices, and based upon what's

3:43:02happening in our respective communities.

3:43:04With that, we'll go ahead and get this

3:43:06kicked off. Uh when we look at our

3:43:07alignment with our 2027 2029 strategic

3:43:10priorities for the city of Reno, I would

3:43:12submit to each and every one of you that

3:43:14this contract embraces every single one

3:43:16of those core competencies. Uh when I

3:43:19first came here as your uh interim

3:43:20police chief and then ultimately was

3:43:22retained as your uh current sitting

3:43:25police chief uh I had the opportunity uh

3:43:28while working with another agency to

3:43:29look at inequities in different

3:43:31contracts. Uh when I came here, I had

3:43:33Lieutenant Ryan Connley, who's a

3:43:34director of my real-time intelligence

3:43:36center, have the opportunity to look at

3:43:38our current Axon contract. And because I

3:43:42had the opportunity to negotiate a

3:43:43previous Axon contract with my prior

3:43:45employer, I saw that the city of Reno

3:43:47didn't have a lot of things that our

3:43:49other regional partners had. Uh so I

3:43:51asked him, a lot of people have said in

3:43:53opinion and in public comment that this

3:43:54is a rush decision. We've been working

3:43:56on this for seven months. uh we've had

3:43:58the opportunity to slow things down to

3:44:00look at equities and to truly leverage

3:44:03the return on investment for the city of

3:44:05Reno and the buying power for the city

3:44:06of Reno. With that said, when we were

3:44:09bringing in systems and platforms

3:44:11together and treating it like evidence,

3:44:13we have an opportunity to save several

3:44:15million dollars in this project

3:44:17proposal. So, initially you'll look at

3:44:19on the staff report, we have over $21

3:44:22million in discounts uh because of the

3:44:25package that we're going with. Legal

3:44:27obligations. I [snorts] had the

3:44:28opportunity to be the government affairs

3:44:30director for my previous employer. So, I

3:44:32spent several sessions down in Carson

3:44:33City lobbying on these very topics. I

3:44:36also had the opportunity uh with then

3:44:38Majority Leader Ford, who is now

3:44:39Attorney General Ford uh and also on the

3:44:42ballot for governor uh to bring to the

3:44:44table, bring to the Senate a

3:44:46controversial bill in SB 176 that

3:44:48authorized mandated rather state law

3:44:51bodywn cameras for every officer who has

3:44:53routine contact with the public. Some of

3:44:55those community concerns were addressed

3:44:57when we brought that bill forward in

3:44:582017 based upon the surveillance of a

3:45:02bodywn camera. What was it going to say?

3:45:04What was it going to see? what level of

3:45:05intrusion would that look like? And I

3:45:07think all of us today would definitively

3:45:09say that we can't police without it.

3:45:11That it has become a trusted tool in law

3:45:13enforcement. That it has helped keep our

3:45:15community safe. That it's helped keep

3:45:17our off our officers accountable for

3:45:19their actions. That it helps tell a

3:45:21specific story of what happens when

3:45:23there is no independent witnesses. It's

3:45:25not the end- all beall, but that

3:45:27technology when it was brought forward

3:45:29was highly contested as well. with that

3:45:31became a provision that was part of

3:45:34SB176 in the funding mechanism for

3:45:37bodywn cameras for fleet video. And when

3:45:39I say fleet video, fleet video is our,

3:45:41for lack of a better term, our dash

3:45:42cameras, that forward- facing camera

3:45:44that sits within the vehicle that shows

3:45:46you that bird's eye view of what's

3:45:48happening, what the officer seeing while

3:45:49they're responding to calls for service

3:45:51or while they're responding to um or

3:45:53conducting a traffic stop, rather. So,

3:45:56there was a provision that was put in

3:45:57that bill that allowed for

3:45:58reimbursements to cities and counties

3:46:00for those necessary tools uh to be

3:46:03provided for. We're going to talk about

3:46:04those today. We're going to talk about

3:46:07our safe community. This last weekend, I

3:46:09had the opportunity to work with uh our

3:46:11men and women in the street as uh we had

3:46:13our zombie crawl and that was probably

3:46:15the most individuals I've seen out for a

3:46:17Reno event pre-COVID.

3:46:20Pre-COVID, we had over 12,000

3:46:22pre-registered individuals, and we

3:46:24probably have some, we haven't gotten

3:46:25the final numbers yet, between two and

3:46:265,000 additional same day sales.

3:46:28Downtown Reno was hopping. And from a

3:46:31community safety standpoint, if people

3:46:32don't feel safe in our community,

3:46:34they're not going to come downtown.

3:46:35[clears throat]

3:46:36Uh, I have also the distinct honor and

3:46:37privilege of teaching a criminal justice

3:46:39course on Monday nights at the

3:46:40University of Nevada, Reno, because I

3:46:42believe in paying it back to our

3:46:43university. Um, I'm an alma moater. I'm

3:46:45a homegrown kid. I may not been born in

3:46:47Reno, Nevada. Uh but I'm a project of

3:46:49Galina High School and I'm a project of

3:46:51the University of Nevada Reno. And a lot

3:46:54of my mentors uh that were in the

3:46:56department of criminal justice were

3:46:57influential in my career still to this

3:46:59day. Some of them serve on my chief's

3:47:01advisory board. And I think it's

3:47:03important that we pay back to our

3:47:04community. So, in talking to our

3:47:06students at the university, a lot of

3:47:08them don't want to leave the campus

3:47:09because they feel about some of the

3:47:11issues that are happening in our

3:47:12downtown corridor that this body is

3:47:14collectively addressing that we are

3:47:15addressing as a community when we're

3:47:17traveling to uh different areas across

3:47:20the country to look at the intercept

3:47:21model and what Miami date is doing with

3:47:23the unsheltered population. We cannot

3:47:25arrest our way out of our problems. We

3:47:27have to use a community wraparound

3:47:29service. We have to have diversion

3:47:31programs. We have to have opportunities

3:47:33where our officers don't have to make

3:47:35that arrest. But there's not a whole lot

3:47:37of help for us in those spaces when

3:47:40there no diversion programs available.

3:47:42And continually to this day, the Clark

3:47:44County Detention Facility in Southern

3:47:46Nevada and the Wo County Detention

3:47:48Facility in Northern Nevada continue to

3:47:50be the largest mental health

3:47:51institutions in our state.

3:47:54>> [snorts]

3:47:54>> We want to work on that safe community

3:47:56and this technology, these systems, this

3:47:59trusted vendor provides that security.

3:48:02We're not just talking about ALPRs.

3:48:04We're not just talking about bodywn

3:48:05cameras. We're not just talking about

3:48:07the efficiency tools that we're going to

3:48:09identify in the scope of this contract.

3:48:11We're talking about some of those lethal

3:48:13options, too. We know that mental health

3:48:15crisis is growing in our community. We

3:48:17know that we have a ton of co-occurring

3:48:20disorders in this community from

3:48:22substance abuse to mental health

3:48:23disorders. And the more tools that we

3:48:25have at our disposal, the more tools

3:48:27that we have to deescalate situations,

3:48:29the more tools that we have to be able

3:48:32to slow things down and not have to take

3:48:34a life based upon a deadly force uh

3:48:36situation are valuable for us. So, I've

3:48:39been in law enforcement for almost 27

3:48:41years now. I'm coming in my 27th year in

3:48:43December and Axon was relatively new in

3:48:47the infancy of my career and the

3:48:48evolution of the technology through the

3:48:50taser and its capabilities have been a

3:48:53trusted tool and they've continued on

3:48:55that pathway with bodywn cameras with

3:48:57fleet v with fleet video. They

3:48:59understand the policing business. Over

3:49:0290% of law enforcement agencies in the

3:49:05entire country use Axon as a trusted

3:49:07vendor. And one of the things that we'll

3:49:09get into deeper in the program that I

3:49:11really want to speak to is the way that

3:49:13evidence is treated through Axon.

3:49:16Even when we had early warning uh

3:49:19systems with our taser development, the

3:49:21M26, the X26, the X3, all of these

3:49:25tasers or what we would call

3:49:26neuromuscular incapacitation devices,

3:49:28they had evidentiary value for

3:49:30deployment. You could download the

3:49:32taser. It said when it was initiated,

3:49:34when it was spark tested, when it was

3:49:36deployed, for how long it was deployed,

3:49:38what volts it sent down range. All of

3:49:40that was used after every use of force

3:49:43as a documented piece of evidence in a

3:49:45chain of custody. Similarly, when we

3:49:47came out with body cameras and with

3:49:48fleet video, that evidence too that

3:49:51corresponded to calls for service calls

3:49:53out in our community was treated as

3:49:55evidence and is retained within our

3:49:57evidence.com account and cloud as

3:49:59evidence. So every time you log into

3:50:01that database, every time that you

3:50:04search that database, every time that

3:50:05that's shared for discovery for the

3:50:07public defender's office, for an

3:50:08alternate public defender, for the

3:50:10district attorney, there's a categorical

3:50:13uh correlation to who signed in for how

3:50:15long and what they were viewing. Because

3:50:18Axon has always been about the people.

3:50:20It's always been about documentation.

3:50:22It's always been about chain of custody.

3:50:24I want us to really remember that point

3:50:26while we start going through this

3:50:28well-maintained city infrastructure hits

3:50:30that point. Our access to natural

3:50:32spaces. I heard a couple of people uh

3:50:35over the course of my seven months up

3:50:36here that talk about the beauty that we

3:50:39have in Northern Nevada and it truly is

3:50:40remarkable. We have four seasons. We

3:50:43have the ability to celebrate outdoors.

3:50:44It's very different from our southern

3:50:46Nevada counterparts and I don't want to

3:50:48hit and discourage people from visiting

3:50:50southern Nevada, but it's drastically

3:50:52different in the north. Uh, and I always

3:50:55talk to people when we travel outside

3:50:56our state, our beautiful state. They

3:50:58always think that Reno and Las Vegas are

3:50:59like right next door. I'm like, that's a

3:51:017-hour trip. It's an hour hour and a

3:51:02half flight. They're two different

3:51:04economies. They're two different

3:51:05communities. We have a beautiful um

3:51:09truly city where we have the ability to

3:51:10celebrate the outdoors. And I really

3:51:12like what the RCVSA has done with live,

3:51:15work, and play in Reno. And we really

3:51:16want to make sure that we embody that.

3:51:18And if our parks are filled with crime,

3:51:20if our downtown corridor is filled with

3:51:22blight, if we have the inability to work

3:51:25with our redevelopment agency to bring

3:51:27in business, to bring in retail, to

3:51:29bring in commercial assets, our

3:51:30community will fail. And I understand

3:51:32what you guys have entrusted me to do

3:51:34with this job as being your chief of

3:51:36police. At the end of the day, the

3:51:37decisions that we make in this council

3:51:39chamber, the decisions that we make down

3:51:41the street at the public safety center

3:51:43impact all of that. impact community

3:51:45safety, impact whether or not my

3:51:47University of Nevada students feel like

3:51:49they're safe to walk literally eight

3:51:50blocks downtown to come down to the

3:51:52downtown corridor. I don't want to give

3:51:54that up. I take this responsibility

3:51:56seriously. But with that, I also

3:51:58understand the sensitivity of this topic

3:52:00and the power that we're afforded by

3:52:02going through some of these technologies

3:52:04and some of the tools that we have. Law

3:52:06enforcement has been controversial since

3:52:08the existence of time. Once we've always

3:52:10tried to police our public, there's

3:52:12always been, I don't want to say, an

3:52:14adversarial relationship, but there

3:52:15needs to be a mutual respect and

3:52:17understanding. One of the things that

3:52:18we're really focusing on at the Reno

3:52:19Police Department is education, is that

3:52:22community outreach, is making sure that

3:52:24we're taking the time to explain what

3:52:26we're doing and what we're not doing.

3:52:29And ultimately, as we start talking

3:52:31about our government effectiveness, this

3:52:32is something that I've asked in my

3:52:33supervisor pull out training. We had the

3:52:35opportunity last month to get all of our

3:52:37supervisors in the same room and truly

3:52:39explain from Chief Garlocks and my point

3:52:41of view our command intent, what we want

3:52:44our public to understand, what we want

3:52:46our rank and file to understand and

3:52:48looking for efficiencies top down,

3:52:49bottom up. We understand that Cax is

3:52:52flattening. We understand that we're not

3:52:54getting additional officers. And I want

3:52:55to take this opportunity because I

3:52:57apologize I missed the last council

3:52:58meeting to thank each and every one of

3:53:00you for unfreezing those six positions

3:53:02because that's an entire patrol team.

3:53:04That's an entire patrol team, those six

3:53:06positions to get back to our 361

3:53:10uh sworn staff. I I understand when we

3:53:13have competing interests and we have

3:53:15public safety issues and we have

3:53:16cultural issues and we have housing

3:53:18issues. I understand

3:53:21the difficult decision that was there to

3:53:23make that. And I applaud each and every

3:53:24one of you for doing that because that

3:53:26tells me that you understand the

3:53:28importance of what we're trying to

3:53:29accomplish. and we're still far beyond

3:53:32our pre208 recession level numbers. We

3:53:35still haven't over 20 years later and

3:53:37we're still not getting back to those

3:53:39pre-recession numbers. So, what this

3:53:41contract allows us to do is look for

3:53:43efficiencies top down, bottom up, and

3:53:45where technology can replace personnel.

3:53:47It will never replace all of the boots

3:53:49on the ground, but it can leverage our

3:53:50footprint. It can allow our officers to

3:53:53respond safer. It can allow us through

3:53:55drone as a first responder to get eyes

3:53:57on the scene first and either escalate

3:54:00our response or deescalate our response

3:54:02based upon what our drone pilots are

3:54:04seeing as they're approaching there. So,

3:54:06these efficiency tools, uh, we'll get

3:54:08into those as far as what the add-ons

3:54:09are and what we're looking at truly

3:54:11create a government effectiveness across

3:54:14the board for everything that we're

3:54:15trying to do in our community.

3:54:18We talked about the growing demand in

3:54:19our limited officers. So, as we're

3:54:21sitting at 361 sworn staff, it's still

3:54:23below our 2007208

3:54:26level of 373. So, we understand economic

3:54:29downturns. We understand the flattening

3:54:31of the sea tax. We understand that it

3:54:33takes a long time to train, to mentor,

3:54:36to hire uh to recruit officers. And

3:54:40we're fortunate again to be in a

3:54:41beautiful place where our team that's in

3:54:44here today and our community is a warm

3:54:46and inviting place. Officers want to

3:54:48work here. I can't say that across the

3:54:50country. [clears throat] For some of my

3:54:51friends that work in major metropolitan

3:54:53areas across this United States, they

3:54:55have difficult time trying to find

3:54:58qualified candidates and are continually

3:55:00looking to lower their standards,

3:55:02whatever they may be, whether it's

3:55:03physical fitness standards, entry

3:55:05requirements for testing. Your police

3:55:07department refuses to do that. We

3:55:10continue to use our department as a

3:55:12model uh agency that people want to come

3:55:14and be a part of that people want to go

3:55:17out and whenever we experience good

3:55:19service. We talk about this in our

3:55:21command staff meetings once a week. Our

3:55:24team is our best recruiters. When you go

3:55:26to Costco on the weekend and you get

3:55:27excellent customer service or you attend

3:55:29a a dinner or a show and there's

3:55:31excellent service and there's somebody

3:55:33we have those conversations, we have

3:55:34those cards. We get people to come in

3:55:36and work for us. So, we don't have those

3:55:37issues. But as I told you guys during my

3:55:4090day uh first 90 days in office last

3:55:43month presentation, it takes a long time

3:55:45to fill those billets. It takes us about

3:55:4718 months from the time that somebody

3:55:49fills out an application, goes through

3:55:51the background process, takes the

3:55:53written test, takes the physical

3:55:54abilities test, gets selected for an

3:55:56academy, graduates the academy, and then

3:55:58goes to their patrol training officer

3:56:00phase, and then successfully completes

3:56:02that. That is 18 months worth of

3:56:04training time, blood, sweat, and tears

3:56:06put into those officers before they

3:56:07equate to that officer that's responding

3:56:09to calls for service in that beat.

3:56:12As our community continues to grow and

3:56:14our police department is still behind

3:56:16the times of where we were in 2008, our

3:56:18calls for service are going up at a

3:56:19cadence of almost 20,000 year-over-year.

3:56:22That's not our officers going out doing

3:56:24proactive enforcement. That's the

3:56:26community calling us and telling us, "I

3:56:28need an officer. I need help." Uh,

3:56:31additionally, you heard some of my

3:56:32anecdotal retorts uh from some of my

3:56:34education because I kind of like geeking

3:56:36out on um education and one of the first

3:56:40things that you read when you go to law

3:56:41school and criminal laws, Donald Black's

3:56:44uh article on mobilization of crime and

3:56:47how crimes reported and that crime can

3:56:49only happen in two things. Officers see

3:56:51it and respond to it or the public or a

3:56:53victim observe it and call us for a time

3:56:55for service. We know we're not capturing

3:56:56all of the crime out there. That's why

3:56:58I've really taken a concerted effort

3:57:00throughout my career to work with our

3:57:02community, to work with all those

3:57:03stakeholders. Uh I really learned that

3:57:05down in Carson City when we were sitting

3:57:07in the Senate Judiciary Committee,

3:57:08whether it was on the Assembly side or

3:57:10the Senate side, and there was no better

3:57:12feeling than when you could go to the

3:57:13table in support of agenda item, and you

3:57:15had all the stakeholders there. You had

3:57:17the public defenders office, you had the

3:57:18ACLU, you had law enforcement, you had

3:57:20the district attorneys association, and

3:57:22then you had the outside interest groups

3:57:24that impacted certain areas that you

3:57:25were talking through. So I understand

3:57:28what it takes to have that community

3:57:30input uh that community uh safety mind

3:57:33and then having courageous

3:57:35conversations. Dr. Dri and he and I have

3:57:37had conversations over the course of my

3:57:39career. Uh when things get uncomfortable

3:57:41in the public realm, we have those

3:57:43conversations and we conduct education.

3:57:45Uh and I think we continue to do that on

3:57:47this front. But as these calls for

3:57:48service continue to explode, uh we

3:57:52continue to ask our officers to do more

3:57:53with less. At some point, we're going to

3:57:55reach a reach a critical mass or a

3:57:57tipping point where we can't answer all

3:57:59those calls for service. And these

3:58:00efficiency tools that are part of this

3:58:02program are going to free up our

3:58:04officers because I've heard it as your

3:58:06chief of police. I've heard it as a

3:58:07husband. I've heard it as a friend in

3:58:08this community for over 27 years.

3:58:10Where's the police when you need them?

3:58:12Something happens and a police officer

3:58:15isn't there. Maybe they're writing too

3:58:17much paper. They have to do their state

3:58:19manage uh their statemandated training.

3:58:21uh they're not out on the street being

3:58:22available, conducting that proactive

3:58:24enforcement, playing uh in the park with

3:58:27kids, making those community engagement

3:58:29outreaches because we do request and

3:58:32demand a lot of our law enforcement

3:58:33officers. Uh we want to be able to free

3:58:36up their time so they are available for

3:58:37our public so our response times are

3:58:39down and so that they're not paying them

3:58:41a police officer's salary to do data

3:58:43entry that can be done through automatic

3:58:46tools. These days, 100% of our cases

3:58:49include video or digital evidence. Since

3:58:51the advent of body cameras, uh there is

3:58:54through Axon uh and evidence.com and

3:58:57Axon capture, we have opportunities for

3:59:00the public to send video evidence. Uh I

3:59:03would say I would submit to each and

3:59:04every one of you, most residences and

3:59:06apartments in this day and age have some

3:59:09sort of video surveillance. Whether it's

3:59:10a doorbell camera, whether it's an

3:59:12exterior motion camera, they have the

3:59:14ability when they are victims of crime.

3:59:16We're going into the holiday season, so

3:59:18you will shortly see us put out some

3:59:20public service safety announcements for

3:59:22uh theft of packages on doorsteps. A lot

3:59:24of the opportunity for us to be able to

3:59:26solve these crimes is from the victim's

3:59:29point of view when they're providing

3:59:30video evidence of the individual that

3:59:32was stealing packages upon their

3:59:34doorstep. And sometimes we don't have

3:59:36the ability to identify who that

3:59:37individual is. and we just have to fill

3:59:40out a case number, give them that

3:59:41opportunity and tell them, "I'm sorry.

3:59:43We can't solve your crime. There's no

3:59:44evidence left on scene. We can't

3:59:45identify this person. Go file a claim

3:59:47with your insurance provider." And

3:59:49there's nothing more demoralizing

3:59:50[clears throat]

3:59:51for law enforcement to be able to reach

3:59:53out to a victim in their time of need

3:59:54and say, "There's nothing I can do to

3:59:56help you." Technology extends the reach

3:59:59of every officer we have. It allows us

4:00:01to be a force multiplier. It allows us

4:00:03to leverage that footprint, make our

4:00:05community safer, and make our law

4:00:07enforcement officers safer.

4:00:09Keeping up with public safety and modern

4:00:11public safety strategies, every call for

4:00:13service, like I talked about, is

4:00:14somebody's worst nightmare. They usually

4:00:16don't call us when things are happening

4:00:18well. Usually, those are the community

4:00:20engagement things that we're doing

4:00:21behind the scenes, but when somebody

4:00:23needs us, it's usually because they're

4:00:24the victim of a crime or they want to

4:00:25report something. Ultimately, we want to

4:00:28keep our community safe. That's how

4:00:29we're using these tools. And we have

4:00:31several examples today that we're going

4:00:32to explain on how we do that and what

4:00:35the technology is. Ultimately, I kind of

4:00:37spoke to the point that unless there's

4:00:39evidence left on scene, unless there's

4:00:42an opportunity for an eyewitness to give

4:00:43us an accurate an accurate description

4:00:46of what happened, and because of our

4:00:47work with the Innocence Project, we know

4:00:49that lineups aren't always uh successful

4:00:52in properly determining who the violator

4:00:54of a specific crime was or the suspect

4:00:56in a crime. And people understand that

4:00:58through trauma see and observe things

4:01:00that weren't there. They might see

4:01:02something. They might say something that

4:01:04actually didn't happen because they were

4:01:05experiencing trauma themselves. And we

4:01:08know through accelerated heart rates. We

4:01:09know that we'll have tunnel vision. We

4:01:11can't see out of our periphery that we

4:01:13have increased respiration. It distorts

4:01:15time in real time. So, the opportunity

4:01:17to have eyewitness testimony coupled

4:01:19with

4:01:21a picture,

4:01:23drone footage,

4:01:25surveillance institutions. It allows us

4:01:28to put all of that case together and

4:01:30maybe have a lead to potentially give a

4:01:33victim some closure to increase that

4:01:35solvability uh of a case that we

4:01:37wouldn't been able to previously solve

4:01:39and truly truly truly bring closure to

4:01:42victims. in law enforcement as it's

4:01:45evolved, a lot of people will talk

4:01:47about, I haven't seen an officer in my

4:01:48beat. What's happening? Why are why do I

4:01:51have more police officers in our beat?

4:01:52Well, because simply we don't have

4:01:53enough police officers to deploy

4:01:55citywide for every single beat that we

4:01:57possess. So, we have to be very

4:01:59strategic with our examples. We have to

4:02:01be very strategic with our deployment

4:02:03methodologies. And we have to make sure

4:02:05that we're deploying our officers where

4:02:07the crime's at. So, we're being most

4:02:09efficient with that. Unfortunately,

4:02:15we've got a lot of work to do. We have

4:02:18crime in our city. We develop crime

4:02:20trends. We have crime analysts because

4:02:24at the end of the day, what we want to

4:02:25be able to do is to identify these

4:02:27patterns of these perpetrators. It goes

4:02:30back to the old 8020 rule. About 80% of

4:02:32our crime is committed by about 20% of

4:02:34the population. So, if we can find these

4:02:37individuals and develop these crime

4:02:38trends before

4:02:41future victims are subject to these

4:02:43crimes. We can bring closure to these

4:02:45victims. We can prevent victimology. We

4:02:47can keep our community safer. We can

4:02:49understand our [snorts] footprint in our

4:02:51city and what we're trying to accomplish

4:02:53and ultimately bring closure to victims.

4:02:56[snorts]

4:02:57The scope of this agreement, I think a

4:02:59lot of people are misinformed that they

4:03:00think that this is a new contract. This

4:03:02is not a new contract. This is an

4:03:04extension of a previous one that was

4:03:06already in the works. Uh, as I said

4:03:09previously, when I had the opportunity

4:03:10to negotiate a new contract with my

4:03:12previous employer, I saw that our

4:03:14replacement for cameras, for tasers, uh,

4:03:17for a lot of the uh, key items that

4:03:19we're dealing with within the Reno

4:03:21Police Department were behind our

4:03:23regional partners, and that wasn't fair.

4:03:25uh as we run uh concurrent calls, as we

4:03:29have memorandums of understanding, as

4:03:30we're reintegrating the regional teams,

4:03:33uh Sheriff Balum, myself, and Chief

4:03:35Crawford of the Sparks Police Department

4:03:37have recently uh executed aou that

4:03:40brings the regional teams back together

4:03:41and allows us to partner with our

4:03:44regional narcotics unit, to partner with

4:03:46our human exploitation and trafficking

4:03:48unit, to partner with our regional gang

4:03:51unit because we understand that

4:03:52criminals don't respect jurisdictional

4:03:54boundaries. countries. So, we want to

4:03:56leverage the entire footprint of our law

4:03:59enforcement efforts to work on crime

4:04:00regionally because that makes sense. Uh,

4:04:03in addition to that, we run the Northern

4:04:05Nevada Law Enforcement Academy together.

4:04:07So, as we're running those twice a year,

4:04:10we're looking at potentially increasing

4:04:12a third in between the two uh because we

4:04:15have a growing demand for officers on

4:04:16the street. We want to make sure that

4:04:18we're training the same weapon systems,

4:04:20that we're training the same platforms,

4:04:21that we're introducing the same

4:04:22technology to our regional partners. Not

4:04:24only is that important from a community

4:04:26safety standpoint and a teaching

4:04:28standpoint, but it's also important for

4:04:31prosecution. As we have incoming new

4:04:33city attorneys and district attorneys in

4:04:35discovery, we want to make sure that

4:04:37we're giving them the entire arsenal of

4:04:39what they need to prosecute and/or

4:04:41defend a case. So, having all of the

4:04:43systems under one platform is efficiency

4:04:45at its finest.

4:04:47>> [snorts]

4:04:47>> What this adds, and I wouldn't even say

4:04:50it adds because we currently have ALPRs.

4:04:52We currently have drones. This adds a

4:04:55bunch of efficiency tools. This adds AI

4:04:57report drafting. And I've heard a lot of

4:05:01misinformation about the report

4:05:03drafting. We've had this technology for

4:05:05years. We used to call it transcription.

4:05:07So, as we have the ability to narrate

4:05:10what we're seeing, our senses as we're

4:05:12walking up to a car, as we're walking up

4:05:14to a residence, it's going to take some

4:05:15training on the part of our officers.

4:05:17They're narrating to their body camera

4:05:19as they're walking up to that call for

4:05:20service. This is what I see. This is

4:05:23what I smell. As I identify witnesses,

4:05:25as I identify victims, I'm identifying

4:05:27them by name. I'm spelling out their

4:05:29names. I've got their date of birth,

4:05:30their identifying information, their

4:05:32contact information. Tell me what

4:05:34happened. We get those retorts back. We

4:05:36ask our pointed questions. Whether it's

4:05:38a DUI arrest, whether it's a domestic

4:05:40battery, whether it's a BDW, whether

4:05:42it's a stalking harassment claim,

4:05:44whether it's a simple traffic stop, we

4:05:46go through the cadence of our questions

4:05:48and we ask those definitive questions.

4:05:50When we go back in to write our reports,

4:05:52sometimes our officers make three, four,

4:05:54five arrests a shift. I spend a 10-hour

4:05:56shift out there. Now I got to go write

4:05:58five hours of paper. Not efficiency. It

4:06:00was a dark and stormy night as I start

4:06:02typing my, you know, word processing. We

4:06:04don't have to act or respond that way

4:06:07anymore. We have technology to be able

4:06:09to help us and write a draft. Um, most

4:06:12of us that have gone on to secondary

4:06:14education or worked on our dissertation

4:06:17or we've worked on a thesis, we write

4:06:19multiple drafts as we're work working

4:06:21through our reports. Our officers are

4:06:23trying to recall all of the facts that

4:06:25happened, review their body cam footage,

4:06:27go back through their notebook, add all

4:06:29that in there at the end of their shift

4:06:31when they're tired. And if they made an

4:06:32arrest, all of that's required to be

4:06:34completed before they leave. You don't

4:06:36get to hold that over until the next

4:06:37shift. So what draft one does and

4:06:40enables is an opportunity to write a

4:06:44visual record of what happened of what

4:06:47was talked about during that time. The

4:06:48officer still has to go back in there.

4:06:50They still have to put the finite

4:06:51details. They still have to complete

4:06:53that draft review, but it's going to

4:06:55free up a ton of time. Translation for

4:06:58residents. We talked about the

4:07:00mobilization of crime and people's

4:07:02ability to be able to report crime or if

4:07:04an officer didn't see it in front of

4:07:05them, they can't act on that.

4:07:08[clears throat]

4:07:08We've worked extensively, especially

4:07:10with the current administration in

4:07:12Washington DC, on bringing our um our

4:07:16immigrant population at ease. That the

4:07:18law enforcement's job is not immigration

4:07:19enforcement. That is a arm of the

4:07:21federal government. And what we want to

4:07:23do is make sure that if our people are

4:07:25in our community and they are victims of

4:07:27crime, we have worked with Claudia

4:07:29Castanita. We've worked with Maria

4:07:30Davis. We have worked with our Latino

4:07:32stakeholders council to understand and

4:07:34put out that messaging of what we're

4:07:36trying to do. And if our community

4:07:38doesn't trust us to report crimes to the

4:07:41police department and make sure that

4:07:43they're getting out of human trafficking

4:07:44type environments or they're getting out

4:07:46of being leveraged or assaulted, hurt.

4:07:50They have to be able to trust us to do

4:07:52that. So public and police legitimacy is

4:07:55number one. If they don't trust us to

4:07:57call us, they're never going to call us.

4:07:58And one of the things that I love about

4:08:00this technology,

4:08:02my wife is an immigrant who became a US

4:08:04citizen, later became a law enforcement

4:08:06officer. She works with me on my Spanish

4:08:09every day and I'm still horrible at it.

4:08:11And what happened when I was out on the

4:08:13street a lot of times I'd have to pick

4:08:15up the phone, call my wife, whether she

4:08:16was working and also in a law

4:08:18enforcement capacity or off. and we

4:08:19played the translate game. Hey, how do I

4:08:22say this? What do they say? How do I say

4:08:24this? What do they say? If we don't have

4:08:26a Spanish- speaking officer or if we

4:08:28don't have a linguist on staff, yes, the

4:08:29language bank is great, but it's not

4:08:31practical for law enforcement

4:08:32applications through translation for

4:08:35residents, our body cameras. We have the

4:08:37ability to translate 60 different

4:08:38languages and communicate with our

4:08:41public on scene. That is a gamecher.

4:08:44We've never had that technology before.

4:08:46We've never had the ability to

4:08:47communicate with our public that way.

4:08:49And that is an ability for a crime

4:08:51victim to come forward to tell their

4:08:53story and for us to be able to start

4:08:55digesting what's going on before we can

4:08:58get a language bank person there, before

4:09:00we can get somebody from the community

4:09:02to help translate for us. And we don't

4:09:03know if they're truly translating what

4:09:05they're telling us. There's some

4:09:07[clears throat] issues in court that

4:09:08bring that piece up. So, uh, this I'm

4:09:11really really excited about for the

4:09:12ability to communicate with our affluent

4:09:14population and for a lot of our

4:09:16population out there that, um, may not

4:09:19be English as a first language and are

4:09:21looking for those barriers to break

4:09:22through to get out of their cycle of

4:09:24violence. [snorts] Public record

4:09:26redaction. One of the things also that I

4:09:28looked at when I came into the Reno

4:09:30Police Department was the the mountain

4:09:31of paperwork that we have as far as

4:09:33public records request. And the more

4:09:35that we delay that because we don't have

4:09:38an entire team or department dedicated

4:09:40to that. It's my record staff. It's an

4:09:42ancillary duty. It takes a lot of time

4:09:45for them to be able to do that by the

4:09:46law. So, we're not out letting victim

4:09:49information. We're not getting the city

4:09:51sued. We're protecting the rights of

4:09:52victims and the identity of victims uh

4:09:55and suspects for that matter, too. So,

4:09:56there's a lot of redaction that goes

4:09:58into that. That is timely. with some of

4:10:00the public record redaction tools that

4:10:02are part of this overall contract.

4:10:04That'll allow the public when they start

4:10:06going into GovQa uh to file a request

4:10:09for service for Axon and evidence.com to

4:10:13already start pulling that data and

4:10:15redacting it before it even comes to our

4:10:19records people to be able to give it

4:10:21that final look for approval.

4:10:24That's efficiency.

4:10:27I know we're not going to get additional

4:10:28personnel, at least not right now with

4:10:30the budget outlook. So, the ability for

4:10:32us to use and leverage technology to the

4:10:34advantage to be more transparent with

4:10:37our public to get cases out quicker, to

4:10:40be able to fulfill the voluminous work

4:10:42that is going into the records

4:10:44department. Those poor people, they work

4:10:4624/7. They work tirelessly uh for the

4:10:48amount of arrests and calls for service

4:10:50and records checks and uh sex offenders

4:10:53that have to register in our community

4:10:55and our jurisdiction. All that work

4:10:58falls on Shauna Allen and her team and

4:11:00they have done a wonderful job of trying

4:11:02to answer that call and just stay

4:11:03afloat. I want to be able to give them

4:11:05another set of tools that takes that

4:11:07anxiety away of coming in and just

4:11:10having more work dumped on them each and

4:11:11every day. Cold case file search. This

4:11:14is something that's great, too, because

4:11:16Axon

4:11:18has the ability to import all of our old

4:11:21data from old case files from cold cases

4:11:24that haven't been resolved that sit in

4:11:26perpetuity. And when we have time to get

4:11:28to them, I don't have a dedicated cold

4:11:30case detective. So, in addition to

4:11:32everybody else's daily responsibilities,

4:11:34when we have an opportunity to go back

4:11:35or maybe we get a cotus hit from a DNA

4:11:38match later down the road that we didn't

4:11:40have, we have the ability to upload our

4:11:42data files into our old cold case ones

4:11:45to look for similarities to have them

4:11:47look through this inward-f facing data,

4:11:49not outward facing data. We own the

4:11:51environment. It's housed in the United

4:11:53States. We're uploading it. We have the

4:11:55ability through this to look for

4:11:57similarities in cases or maybe

4:11:59opportunities where we missed it. We

4:12:01always talk about in law enforcement

4:12:02looking through things through a

4:12:04different lens. Ryan and I can work

4:12:06together yearbyear. He's going to have a

4:12:08different fact pattern than I have. He's

4:12:09going to see something that I don't. So

4:12:11that's why collectively we make better

4:12:13decisions together than we do

4:12:15individually because hey, I never

4:12:16thought about that. This gives us just

4:12:19another tool to be able to bring some

4:12:20resolution and closure to victims of

4:12:22crime that we haven't had in decades.

4:12:27Additionally, I want to talk a little

4:12:28bit about the VR deescalation training.

4:12:31Uh this is huge. Um through a virtual

4:12:35reality environment, we have the ability

4:12:37to go through several different

4:12:38scenarios. We understand when we're

4:12:40doing our force on force or our

4:12:42constitutional policing, uh, it's

4:12:44invaluable for our officers to be able

4:12:46to go out and simulate an active shooter

4:12:49environment, to be able to simulate an

4:12:50armed robbery in progress, to be able to

4:12:52assimilate somebody in distress and make

4:12:54sure that they're making the right core

4:12:56legal transaction, that they're using

4:12:58the tools on their tool belt, that

4:12:59they're communicating to command their

4:13:01intent, what they're doing in dispatch,

4:13:03coordinating with their officers. But

4:13:05being able to do that requires strict

4:13:06safety standards. And there is some

4:13:08downtime while we're running those

4:13:09scenarios because we have our safety

4:13:11team to make sure that no weapons have

4:13:13made it into that training environment

4:13:15so no one can get shot or killed because

4:13:17we are using platforms that display

4:13:19simunitions that look like firearms. So

4:13:21we want to make sure that no live

4:13:23ammunition is introduced into that

4:13:24environment that our role players are

4:13:26safe that our officers are safe. When

4:13:28we're running those scenarios there's

4:13:30opportunity for downtime. We don't want

4:13:32downtime. We want to maximize the

4:13:34limited training hours that we have to

4:13:36give our officers those mental

4:13:37rehearsals so when they see it on the

4:13:39street and it's real,

4:13:42they make the right decision. We want

4:13:43our failures to accompan training. We

4:13:45don't want our failures to come on the

4:13:46street. So that training is invaluable.

4:13:49This VR deescalation training allows us

4:13:51to have the opportunity when they're

4:13:53setting up those other scenarios. Now

4:13:55there's not dead time. Now I'm not just

4:13:56sitting around talking waiting for the

4:13:58next scenario to pop up. Now we're over

4:14:00here and we're using other tools to be

4:14:02able to fill in that gap to give our

4:14:04officers again more training, more

4:14:07visual acuity. So when they see that

4:14:09happen in real life, when they see that

4:14:10happen, they know how to react. Building

4:14:12that muscle memory from the ground up.

4:14:16Cost and value of the agreement.

4:14:18Currently, this agreement goes over the

4:14:20course of eight years. These are our

4:14:22financial obligations. You'll see three

4:14:24different colors on the slide. Yellow

4:14:26indicates money that's reimburseable

4:14:28from the E911 fund. Those are ones that

4:14:30we were constitutionally enabled through

4:14:32Nevada Revised Statutes through SB1 176

4:14:35in 2017 and allow the department to be

4:14:38reimbursed into the general fund for

4:14:40those initial outgoing expenses.

4:14:4312.9 [clears throat]

4:14:43million will come from over the course

4:14:45of eight years from the general fund and

4:14:47we receive because we still have a

4:14:49existing credit and contract with Axon a

4:14:51$2.7 million credit. Uh what the

4:14:54existing contract covers is $15.1

4:14:57million covers our body cameras, our

4:14:59taser upgrades, our in-car video

4:15:01systems, uh evidence, our plate readers,

4:15:05and four drones. Our efficiency tools

4:15:08are some of those things that I talked

4:15:09about. Draft one, narration to your body

4:15:12camera, translation, be able to connect

4:15:14with our community, our record

4:15:15redaction, and our cold case search.

4:15:17Those are those efficiency tools over

4:15:19the course of the eight-year contract.

4:15:22drone as a first responder. Uh $1.9

4:15:24million and then an additional 14 plate

4:15:27readers for $.3 million. So literally

4:15:3021.78 million over eight years, which

4:15:32with our officer safety package that we

4:15:35purchased is 51% below the list price

4:15:38because we do have leverage in our

4:15:40contract. We do have return on

4:15:42investment. We do have a larger city

4:15:44buying power with the entire package at

4:15:47our disposal.

4:15:48>> [snorts]

4:15:48>> Uh also want to uh point out the caveat

4:15:51that the city may end this agreement in

4:15:53any year by choosing not to fund it or

4:15:55if Axon fails to meet its contractual

4:15:57obligations. That's something a

4:15:58constitutional uh rather a contractual

4:16:02uh agreement that we have with this

4:16:04vendor uh because we don't know the

4:16:06financial future. We don't know what the

4:16:08city of Reno is going to look like in

4:16:10eight years. We're still almost 20 years

4:16:12removed from the great recession of 2008

4:16:14and we're still not back to our line

4:16:17level officers where we were in 2008.

4:16:19Yet our city continues to grow at over

4:16:226% growth rate over the last 5 years.

4:16:25Those are important uh strategic

4:16:27initiatives for the city if we hard if

4:16:29we fall on hard financial times. Uh,

4:16:32additionally though, there are some

4:16:34statutoily mandated things that we will

4:16:36have to figure out as far as the bodywn

4:16:38camera piece and the fleet video. Those

4:16:41are becoming commonplace in law

4:16:42enforcement and we would be neglect and

4:16:44derelict in our duties uh if we didn't

4:16:46have those moving forward. Additionally,

4:16:48I think we've proven time and time again

4:16:50what has happened with uh taser as a

4:16:53less lethal option to be able to save

4:16:54lives and deescalate issues from

4:16:56occurring and reaching that critical

4:16:58mass point.

4:17:00Why? Why Axon? [snorts] Uh, one of the

4:17:03things that since I've been your police

4:17:05chief that I've heard, uh, we've had

4:17:07conversations with the media, we've had

4:17:09conversations with UNR, we've had

4:17:11conversations with, uh, my class and in

4:17:14general with the community and the

4:17:15public and talking about it. They're

4:17:16worried about the record retention.

4:17:18They're worried about who has access.

4:17:20They're worried about safeguards for

4:17:21things that haven't even been documented

4:17:23in our city, but understanding that it's

4:17:25happened within law enforcement and that

4:17:28if somebody does something 2200 miles

4:17:30away from us, we're still wearing that

4:17:32here today. So, we want to make sure

4:17:34that the public understands the

4:17:36responsibility that goes with

4:17:37technology, how we're treating it, how

4:17:39we're investigating it, how we're

4:17:41auditing it, and how those safeguards

4:17:43that we put in place to make sure that

4:17:44it is not manipul that is not

4:17:46manipulated, that it's not used

4:17:48nefariously. We want to make sure

4:17:50because we believe that strongly in this

4:17:52product and being closure to victims and

4:17:54being able to solve crimes prevents

4:17:57future victimology and brings closure to

4:17:59victims of crime. We want to make sure

4:18:01that we have the safeguards, that we

4:18:02have the community trust, that they

4:18:04understand how it's being used in our

4:18:06community. I can't help what's happening

4:18:08outside our community, but I can happen

4:18:10I can help what's happening within our

4:18:12community. And we will continue to push

4:18:14that forward. Federal access under our

4:18:17Axon proposed contract. There is no

4:18:18federal access because they don't have

4:18:20access to our database. We own the data.

4:18:23We control who we share with on a

4:18:25onetoone record. So there is no daisy

4:18:27train of people that if we decide to

4:18:29share with a regional partner up here

4:18:31and they share with an outside entity

4:18:33that we don't share with. Our data is

4:18:34not compromised. We based upon a act of

4:18:38investigation based upon a request. We

4:18:40can choose to share or we can choose not

4:18:43to share. We can choose to for how long

4:18:45we share and what we share. Then it's

4:18:47also revocable. It's not in perpetuity.

4:18:49So once we turn it on, it's not like we

4:18:51can ever turn it off. We have that

4:18:52ability under this current provider. And

4:18:55I think this is really important too.

4:18:56The city owns the data. Ax Axon cannot

4:19:00uh disclose it. If they find something

4:19:02wrong with our server, they find

4:19:04something wrong with evidence.com, they

4:19:06have to seek our permission to go into

4:19:07our environment to even fix that. And

4:19:10that is tracked for evidence that is

4:19:12tracked for chain of custody that's

4:19:14reportable later down the road. [snorts]

4:19:17Every single inquiry, and this is where

4:19:19it's important to distinguish between a

4:19:21query and evidence. If I'm talking about

4:19:24a query that makes me think that I can

4:19:26just go into Google and type in anything

4:19:27with no parameters. I can search myself.

4:19:30I can search where I went to school. I

4:19:31can search what's Corey Sulfino done in

4:19:34his career. Right? And we can do that

4:19:35with all of our people up here. There's

4:19:36no permissions that we need to be able

4:19:38to Google search somebody. I think in a

4:19:41lot of environments that this is how

4:19:43this tool has been misused that there

4:19:44weren't safeguards or parameters of on

4:19:46to what could be queried. Under Axon, a

4:19:49definitive case number has to be

4:19:51affiliated with the search query. And

4:19:53additionally, it has to be categorized.

4:19:55What are we investigating? Are we

4:19:56investigating a serial sexual assault

4:19:58suspect? Are we investigating a vehicle

4:20:01burglar? Are we investigating a domestic

4:20:03violence? The category and the case

4:20:05number are synonymous and they have to

4:20:07be part of that record. [snorts] It's a

4:20:09single system with a chain of custody

4:20:11scheduled audit. So under our current

4:20:13technology policy uh ALPR technology

4:20:16would be audited twice annually. So

4:20:19through the uh Reno Police Department we

4:20:21would look for infrequent loginins. We

4:20:24would look for a cadence in a change of

4:20:26login. If Cory Sulfuro in the course of

4:20:28his duties while assigned to patrol runs

4:20:3010 plates one month but then runs 35

4:20:32next month that's going to send a flag

4:20:34of the standard deviation. If I'm

4:20:36running more than the uh same plate

4:20:39multiple times, well, why am I running

4:20:41that same plate? That's another flag.

4:20:43That gives us the opportunity to

4:20:44safeguard and make sure that some of

4:20:45these stories that we've heard outside

4:20:47our jurisdiction aren't happening in our

4:20:49community because we do believe in using

4:20:51it responsibly.

4:20:53[snorts]

4:20:54[clears throat]

4:20:56I think it's important to talk about

4:20:57what license plate recognition is and

4:20:59how it works. So, really, really slowed

4:21:01down. a crime occurs, an associated

4:21:04license plate or a partial license plate

4:21:05is identified by either an eyewitness or

4:21:09uh as we're arriving on scene, somebody

4:21:11the reporting party tells us they saw a

4:21:13white Toyota Celica with ABC123 Nevada

4:21:16leaving the scene. We have the ability

4:21:18to run that plate for a law enforcement

4:21:21purpose with it categorized through that

4:21:23system. The system identifies if the

4:21:25vehicle was seen within our network of

4:21:27cameras that individuals that are

4:21:29sharing with us. If it doesn't see it,

4:21:32there is no further inquiry.

4:21:34[snorts] Officer investigates any leads.

4:21:36So, if it was seen at a specific

4:21:38location, time, it tells us where. The

4:21:40officer follows up on that. It's not an

4:21:42automatic like a uh traffic stop camera

4:21:45where you automatically get a ticket in

4:21:47the mail because you ran a red light or

4:21:48a speeding infraction where you were

4:21:50speeding too fast on the New Jersey

4:21:51Turnpike and they mail you a ticket. It

4:21:54gives the officer a flag for an

4:21:55investigative lead and then our officers

4:21:58verify those leads and use it to narrow

4:22:00down suspects. It's not probable cause.

4:22:02It's not reasonable suspicion. It's an

4:22:04investigatory tool. It captures a plate.

4:22:06It captures a time. It captures a

4:22:09location. It doesn't capture faces. It

4:22:11doesn't capture who is driving. And it

4:22:14requires a case number and a validity

4:22:16search regarding the categorization of

4:22:18crime on every single inquiry.

4:22:23>> [snorts]

4:22:24>> I want to take this opportunity because

4:22:26I believe um it's an important tool and

4:22:29I believe it's important for our

4:22:31officers to talk about its success

4:22:33stories and how it is used. I'm 10 years

4:22:36removed from being a real police cop.

4:22:38Despite my best efforts to go out and uh

4:22:40work the crawl and support our men and

4:22:43women out there, I'm not doing the job

4:22:44day in and day out like they are. But I

4:22:46need to be able to understand uh truly

4:22:49so I can give the information to each

4:22:51and every one of you so we can make

4:22:53informed decisions together as a city

4:22:55about what this does. So I'd like at

4:22:57this opportunity to invite Lieutenant

4:22:58Ryan Connley up to the podium to talk

4:23:00about these cases. Ryan,

4:23:03[clears throat]

4:23:09thank you, Chief. Thank you, Madame

4:23:11Mayor, council members, and Madam

4:23:13Manager. Uh, Lieutenant Ryan Conley, for

4:23:15the record, I currently oversee our Reno

4:23:18Police Department real-time information

4:23:19center. Like the chief discussed, I want

4:23:21to take a moment to uh to thank you for

4:23:23the opportunity to come before this body

4:23:24and provide some important context to a

4:23:26lot of these cases um and show you how

4:23:29these tools are being utilized by the

4:23:30men and women of the Reno Police

4:23:31Department uh with a focus on bringing

4:23:34closure to the victims um and a high

4:23:36level of service to our community. I

4:23:38also want to take a moment to thank

4:23:39those community members who have come

4:23:40out here today uh to express their

4:23:42thoughts and concerns on the matter at

4:23:44hand. As the chief said, this is an

4:23:46important topic that deserves thoughtful

4:23:48and thorough discourse. So, I appreciate

4:23:49them coming out here and participating.

4:23:53We've selected six cases for uh summary

4:23:56today. Uh I feel like it has a broad

4:24:00spectrum of what the technology is used

4:24:02for uh covering both violent felonies as

4:24:05well as uh traffic and well and the

4:24:08caretaker community caretaker function

4:24:10of the Reno Police Department. First I

4:24:13want to discuss a fatal hit and run

4:24:15investigation in August of 2025.

4:24:19In the early morning hours, uh, officers

4:24:21receive a call of a vehicle bicyclist

4:24:23who had been struck by, excuse me, a

4:24:26bicyclist that was been struck by a

4:24:27vehicle in the area of Wells and Sadler.

4:24:29Unfortunately, due to the injuries

4:24:31suffered, the bicyclist uh was unable to

4:24:34survive their their incident. Um, due to

4:24:38the time and the location of this

4:24:41incident, there was no eyewitnesses. It

4:24:44was extremely early in the morning in an

4:24:46extremely desolate area of town. There

4:24:48was nothing to go on but a vague vehicle

4:24:53description of a light colored passenger

4:24:54car that was seen on video from the um

4:24:58livestock event center.

4:25:00Using that vague description as well as

4:25:02direction of travel, uh, within one

4:25:04hour, my crime analyst working in the

4:25:07real-time information center were able

4:25:09to identify the vehicle plate on a a

4:25:12nearby ALPR that was in the path of the

4:25:16vehicle fleeing the scene. They were

4:25:19able to pass that that plate on to

4:25:21detectives who were over at the

4:25:23suspect's house and were able to make an

4:25:25arrest again within hours on a case that

4:25:28prior to the existence of the technology

4:25:30being discussed here would have been

4:25:32extremely difficult if not near

4:25:34impossible to solve with no eyewitnesses

4:25:36and a vague vehicle description.

4:25:39They were able to utilize this

4:25:40technology to bring closure to that

4:25:42victim and their family in a case, like

4:25:45I said, that would have been extremely

4:25:46difficult in years past.

4:25:51On June 18th of this year, officers

4:25:53responded, officers responded to a

4:25:55suspect or a a a fight in which a

4:25:58suspect had battered a victim with a

4:26:00large wooden stick, causing extreme

4:26:02facial trauma to that victim, and they

4:26:03were transported to Renown uh for

4:26:05life-threatening injuries. The victim

4:26:08survived in that case. Officers were

4:26:10able to get a vehicle suspect

4:26:13description again and enter that into

4:26:16the ALPR system and located within 48

4:26:21hours where the suspect vehicle had been

4:26:23seen, checked the area and were able to

4:26:25affect arrest uh within two days,

4:26:27bringing closure to that victim. The

4:26:30victim was no longer or the suspect was

4:26:31no longer in our community posing a

4:26:33threat to our community members and they

4:26:35were taken off the street.

4:26:37On September 17th, a Door Dash driver

4:26:41working their job, how they provide for

4:26:44themselves, was making a delivery and

4:26:47their vehicle was stolen while they're

4:26:48on scene of their delivery. There was no

4:26:51eyewitnesses. They came out from

4:26:52dropping off the food and their car was

4:26:54gone.

4:26:55The officers were able to enter that

4:26:57vehicle into the NCIC database, the

4:26:58national the national crime database,

4:27:01and within 24 hours, it hit on an ALPR

4:27:05in downtown Reno. That location, the

4:27:07alert was passed on to the officers.

4:27:08They were able to get into the area

4:27:09immediately and locate that victim's

4:27:12vehicle and return it back to them. This

4:27:14was the the driver's only means of

4:27:17income, and without their vehicle, they

4:27:18were unable to support themselves. So,

4:27:20I'm happy to say that within 24 hours,

4:27:22we were able to get their vehicle back

4:27:23to them. In cases like this, this

4:27:25vehicle is typically found abandoned

4:27:27days later. We were able to get back to

4:27:29them in almost immediate fashion. On

4:27:33September 24th,

4:27:35we received a report. Dispatch received

4:27:37a call of a female screaming that she

4:27:40was being attacked with by a male with a

4:27:42knife. They could hear her screaming in

4:27:44the background, but she wasn't providing

4:27:46any other details. A drone as a first

4:27:48responder was launched and arrived on

4:27:50scene before any other assets from the

4:27:53Reno Police Department were able to get

4:27:54there. As the drone arrived on scene and

4:27:56the officers were still coming in the

4:27:57area, the suspect attempted to flee on

4:27:59foot, but was followed by the drone and

4:28:01arrested a short time later. In years

4:28:03past, if the suspect had fled before the

4:28:06drone had gotten there, been able to

4:28:07follow them, there's a high likelihood

4:28:09that they they may have gotten away and

4:28:11been able to return and revictimize that

4:28:12that that victim uh until we can get

4:28:16them into custody.

4:28:19On October 1st, we received a call from

4:28:22citizens in the area of Virginia Street

4:28:23of a 14-year-old autistic juvenile that

4:28:26was running in and out of traffic.

4:28:28Officers were responding and the drone

4:28:30was was launched immediately and was

4:28:32able to locate the the juvenile running

4:28:35down Virginia Street in and out of

4:28:36traffic. They were able to quickly

4:28:38direct officers to that area to block

4:28:41traffic to stop the other vehicles and

4:28:43get the juvenile out of the street and

4:28:44return them back to home. The the

4:28:47child's mother uh had left the home to

4:28:51go get food for the child because they

4:28:53didn't have any inside their inside

4:28:54their home at the time. So, with the

4:28:57drone being there first on scene and

4:28:58able to get that child the help they

4:29:01needed right away, we avoided an

4:29:03extremely tragic situation um of that

4:29:06child being injured. On October 4th,

4:29:08officers responded to a shooting with

4:29:11four victims struck by gunfire.

4:29:13Officers were checked a camera and again

4:29:16got a vague description of the suspect

4:29:18vehicle and direction of travel. By

4:29:21checking ALPRs along that path with

4:29:23direction of travel, they were able to

4:29:24positively identify a plate that was

4:29:27passed on to detectives and the

4:29:29detectives were able to affect the

4:29:30arrest of the suspect in that case,

4:29:32bringing closure to those four victims

4:29:34without further victimizing our

4:29:36community.

4:29:40As you can see by these examples,

4:29:43this technology is utilized across all

4:29:45facets of modern policing

4:29:48from investigating violent felonies,

4:29:50tragic vehicle accidents, and assisting

4:29:52with the community caretaking function.

4:29:54It touches every aspect of our policing

4:29:56profession.

4:29:59Justice delayed is justice denied. And

4:30:01prior to the implementation of these

4:30:03technologies, many of these victims up

4:30:05here would have had delayed justice.

4:30:10This would have suffered unwarranted

4:30:12delays in justice and closure which to

4:30:15me is unacceptable and not in keeping

4:30:18with our department's core values, the

4:30:20expectations of this body of the police

4:30:22department and the expectations of our

4:30:24community. I appreciate you giving me a

4:30:27moment to come up here and talk about

4:30:28the good work being done by our men and

4:30:30women of our police department utilizing

4:30:32this technology for the greater good.

4:30:35Thank you.

4:30:36All right. Thank you.

4:30:39>> Thank you, Ryan. Thank you, council, for

4:30:41indulging me for just a moment because I

4:30:42do think it is important that the

4:30:46community and this council, this body

4:30:47understands how this is being used in

4:30:49our community. I can't stop what's

4:30:50happening in other communities. I can't

4:30:52regulate how they use it in other

4:30:53communities. Um, but this is how we're

4:30:55using it in our community. This isn't

4:30:58new technology. This is technology that

4:31:00currently exists. We're making a

4:31:02concerted effort to continue this

4:31:04platform moving forward under specific

4:31:06guard rails so it's not misused, so it's

4:31:09not lost. So we are giving the

4:31:11opportunity for closure for victims. And

4:31:13that if we can truly identify crime

4:31:15patterns faster and we can identify

4:31:16these individuals committing and victing

4:31:18vict victimizing and praising on our on

4:31:21our community, we can stop other

4:31:23tragedies from occurring. Uh this

4:31:26morning we were able to submit a press

4:31:27release uh for a serial sexual assault

4:31:30suspect that was arrested yesterday with

4:31:34the advancement of this technology.

4:31:37Another potential victim saved because

4:31:39we were able to piece together through

4:31:41DNA, through good old traditional police

4:31:43work, investigatory leads, eyewitness

4:31:45testimony, and ALPR technology to bring

4:31:48a sexual predator under arrest.

4:31:51That's why we do this. That's why we

4:31:53continue to make sure that those

4:31:54safeguards are in place so it's not

4:31:56misused because I don't know how many

4:31:58other victims that individual would have

4:31:59been able to go after if we weren't able

4:32:02to capture them. During my 90-day

4:32:04presentation, I gave you the um

4:32:06disclosure that we had solved two

4:32:08homicides in this community through the

4:32:10use of ALPR technology just since I've

4:32:12been your police chief. That's seven

4:32:14months.

4:32:16This technology is not being misused in

4:32:18our community. And I will make that

4:32:21claim to each and every one of you and

4:32:23to our community because I believe in it

4:32:24that much. And I believe in the

4:32:26guardrails and I believe in the safety

4:32:27parameters that we put in place through

4:32:29the Reno Police Department because it is

4:32:32a model policy. And I think that we have

4:32:34the opportunity here to be a trends

4:32:37setter. Uh because of my time down in

4:32:39government affairs in Carson City, I

4:32:41don't think that we have to wait to

4:32:42determine what is or isn't going to

4:32:44happen during a legislative session. We

4:32:45have the opportunity right now to be

4:32:47bold. We have the opportunity now to

4:32:49make sure that we have a model policy

4:32:51moving forward that protects the

4:32:53community's interest, that protects the

4:32:54public safety interest, and keeps our

4:32:56community safer. And that's exactly what

4:32:58we've done. [snorts]

4:32:59I want to take a moment to address some

4:33:01of the national concerns that we've

4:33:02heard.

4:33:04[clears throat] Again, how Reno prevents

4:33:06it. the stalking or misuse of 26

4:33:08officers that have been documented

4:33:10nationwide uh or a police chief who was

4:33:13running an inordinate amount of searches

4:33:16based upon their login. As your police

4:33:18chief, I will not be running any plates

4:33:20in the system. That is not my job. That

4:33:22is not my function. If I'm out there

4:33:24doing that, then I'm not doing what

4:33:25you're paying me to do to make sure that

4:33:27we're looking for the efficiencies in

4:33:29our department and we're leading. That

4:33:30is for the boots on the ground. Our case

4:33:32numbers are required. Every search is

4:33:34logged. Name officer is audited. Misuses

4:33:36means discipline and criminal

4:33:37investigation. Our policy if our policy

4:33:40is misused that is subject to internal

4:33:43discipline where they would be routed

4:33:45through internal affairs. An

4:33:47investigated inquiry will be conducted

4:33:49and any guilty finding would result in

4:33:51progressive discipline up to and

4:33:52including termination. If there is a

4:33:55criminal matter, that individual will be

4:33:57placed on administrative leave pending

4:33:59the outcome of a criminal investigation.

4:34:01And then furthermore, once the criminal

4:34:02investigation was completed, then an

4:34:05independent

4:34:07internal investigation would be

4:34:08completed. That's how strongly we

4:34:10believe in this technology. There is no

4:34:12nationwide lookup. State law and RPD

4:34:14policy prohibits searches for

4:34:15reproductive health care. So, we don't

4:34:17have the ability to go target people who

4:34:19are going out to different political

4:34:21entities or going to reproductive care

4:34:23centers. That's within that's not within

4:34:25our purview. That's not something that

4:34:27we will allow. We don't allow any

4:34:28federal access. Sharing is invite only.

4:34:30It's revocable and it's on a onetoone

4:34:33issue. We don't have the ability to

4:34:35share it with the feds. We did find that

4:34:37there's a narrative out there that

4:34:39through the daisy chain even some of our

4:34:41data could potentially be compromised if

4:34:43there was an outside user. That function

4:34:45isn't even fathomable with this current

4:34:49vendor. That's not something that can

4:34:51happen.

4:34:53Required not optional. We literally have

4:34:55to have a policy that mandates the

4:34:56justification training before it's used

4:34:58and tiered audits based upon the

4:35:00technology within our department. As I

4:35:02indicated previously, this is a twice a

4:35:04year audit audited uh system. So, one of

4:35:08the things that uh my team behind me has

4:35:12been working on this feverishly since I

4:35:13came in. I I really have to give a shout

4:35:15out to to Ashlin and to Kayla who've

4:35:18been working because we don't do a good

4:35:20job of telling our story. we don't do a

4:35:22good job of reporting the data to the

4:35:24public. So, one of the first things I

4:35:26came in that they've been helping me do

4:35:27is grab all of that data so we can make

4:35:29informed decisions as they collect the

4:35:31body as a community as to what's

4:35:33important. uh that annual report will be

4:35:36inclusive of our audits to include our

4:35:39use of force data to include how many

4:35:41times that we've audited the system any

4:35:43irre I can't talk I apologize any

4:35:46irregularities that we've determined or

4:35:48deciphered as we're going through there

4:35:50gives us the opportunity to hold our

4:35:53people accountable and tell our story to

4:35:55the public. I think that goes extremely

4:35:59handinhand with the mutual respect and

4:36:01understanding of what's happening in our

4:36:02community. To Ryan's point, policy

4:36:05safeguards and accountability. Here's

4:36:06the two systems based upon what we would

4:36:09do is twice a year, our plate readers,

4:36:11our live cameras, and our drone

4:36:12detection would be audited for

4:36:13compliance. Again, through this system,

4:36:16through the evidence.com vault, it is

4:36:18treated as evidence, as a chain of

4:36:19custody record. You see who logged on

4:36:22for how long, what they viewed, and what

4:36:23they did. And if there's not a directed

4:36:25nexus to that,

4:36:28then we need to intervene.

4:36:31We want to make sure that this is used.

4:36:33This isn't a query. This is a criminal

4:36:35justice information system and it will

4:36:37be treated and governed as such.

4:36:41Our new policy was adopted earlier this

4:36:43month. Training before any access. Our

4:36:46case type and number for every search.

4:36:48Every action is tiered to a named user.

4:36:51You have to log in. You have to have a

4:36:52login. You have to have a password.

4:36:55Every action uh is tiered to that named

4:36:58user. I apologize. No immigration or

4:37:00reproductive health searches. No sharing

4:37:02just because the vendor off offers it.

4:37:04It's turned off. We on a onetoone basis

4:37:06determine who we do and who we don't

4:37:08share with. And misuse leads up to

4:37:11discipline up to and including

4:37:12termination.

4:37:14I want to take an opportunity again just

4:37:16one more time to invite Marisol uh Perez

4:37:19and Jenna Rabber up here, two of our

4:37:21victim advocates to talk about in their

4:37:23space how this technology is helping

4:37:25them bring case closure and resolution

4:37:28to victims of violent crime. Nurs,

4:37:33>> good afternoon madame mayor, city

4:37:36manager, and everyone on the council.

4:37:38We're excited to be here and I know that

4:37:40this is a very uh delicate topic, but I

4:37:44want to bring some light into the aspect

4:37:47of we do advocacy within our community.

4:37:49We're a civilian unit that works within

4:37:50the Reno Police Department. We see and

4:37:53meet people at their worst every single

4:37:55day after hours. We are on call and I've

4:37:59been with the department for 17 years.

4:38:01And I can uh proudly say that within the

4:38:0417 years of doing this kind of work, I

4:38:07can proudly say that our officers are

4:38:09doing an amazing job when it comes down

4:38:11to gathering evidence and helping be

4:38:14more proactive and efficient when it

4:38:16comes down to gathering evidence. Years

4:38:18ago, 5 10 years ago, we didn't have this

4:38:21technology. We didn't have this ability.

4:38:22So, the issues that we were running into

4:38:24when we were dealing with our victims of

4:38:26crime was that one, gathering evidence

4:38:29and having the right appropriate

4:38:32evidence to be able to prove in order to

4:38:34make an arrest or submit for a warrant

4:38:36delayed the process for our victims to

4:38:39be able to see any justice. With these

4:38:42programs put into place, with this

4:38:43technology, this ability, this has now

4:38:46allowed us to be able to see how

4:38:48proactive we've become as a police

4:38:50department in our community. Have we

4:38:52been able to serve our victims of crime

4:38:54and help validate their voices and what

4:38:57the circumstances they're dealing with

4:38:58on a daily basis? This gave us a tool

4:39:01that we were able to use to be able to

4:39:04share and now confirm locations of

4:39:07individuals in certain locations,

4:39:08especially on stalking aggravated

4:39:10stalking situations on cases with

4:39:13domestic violence partners. Um, I could

4:39:16be here all day long to share cases that

4:39:18we have experienced where there's been

4:39:20such a huge delay and a gap because we

4:39:23didn't have this technology available.

4:39:25Like I said, I know that this is a very

4:39:27sensitive topic, but I want to shed a

4:39:30positive side to how this has actually

4:39:32been a positive improvement and it has

4:39:34helped our cases because again, when

4:39:37you're meeting someone at their worst

4:39:38and they're having the worst day of

4:39:40their life, they are not thinking of how

4:39:42long this process can take. And really,

4:39:44justice looks different for every single

4:39:46person. And crime does not discriminate.

4:39:49Race, gender, color. No one, anyone in

4:39:52this room could be a victim of a crime.

4:39:54The reality is, wouldn't we all want to

4:39:57be able to have the ability to be able

4:39:59to have these tools in place for our

4:40:01officers so that they can use these

4:40:03tools in case we needed them to be able

4:40:05to access and be able to confirm and

4:40:07help bring a stronger point of evidence

4:40:09to be able to prove these cases in court

4:40:11and have a great outcome. As much as we

4:40:14would wish for crime to be able to go

4:40:17down and for our crime rates to decline,

4:40:20sadly that is not the reality. Our

4:40:22population has grown. Therefore, our

4:40:24crime rates have gone up. So because of

4:40:26that, we have seen so many different

4:40:28situations and circumstances, and it has

4:40:31been such a a a great opportunity for us

4:40:34to see that we're building that gap

4:40:36within our community, and we're being

4:40:38able to show our victims in our

4:40:40community, that they have a voice, and

4:40:42they have an opportunity to bring

4:40:44closure to their cases. they're able to

4:40:46not only see that the result of these

4:40:49tools were used in a positive way, that

4:40:52they were not misused, and that they

4:40:54were able to be able to see the outcome

4:40:56of their case in a positive way. So, as

4:40:59much as we try to believe that, you

4:41:01know, v victimization is very limited in

4:41:04our community. Unfortunately, it's not.

4:41:07But it's a great opportunity for us to

4:41:09be able to share and bring awareness to

4:41:10our community that if we didn't have

4:41:12these situations arise or uh

4:41:15circumstances come up, then our unit

4:41:18would be non-existent. We would not even

4:41:20have a job. But the the reality is that

4:41:24with all of these tools and with all of

4:41:26the situations that we have seen, we

4:41:28have seen improvements. um our case

4:41:30loads have been able to you know come to

4:41:33a quicker and more prompt closure when

4:41:36it comes down to making arrests to

4:41:38submitting for warrant requests to

4:41:40seeing cases being you know going

4:41:42through trial at court. So for us that

4:41:44is a big huge improvement in the sense

4:41:46of that the tool is being used in a

4:41:49great way. I want to bring Jenna up here

4:41:51so that she can share a little bit more

4:41:53as a direct services and how that's

4:41:55brought so much improvement into our

4:41:56unit and how we've been able to be uh

4:41:59firsthand to see how this stuff has been

4:42:01such a positive impact on our community.

4:42:03But again, these tools allow us to help

4:42:05build our cases and to fill those gaps

4:42:07between the experiences that our

4:42:09community members are facing. And we

4:42:11need these tools in order to be

4:42:13proactive. Personally, I would think

4:42:15that if we took the ability to have

4:42:16these tools in place, we would be

4:42:18basically moving backwards instead of

4:42:20forward. Jenn

4:42:26>> Hi, thank you for having me today. I'm

4:42:28Jenna. I'm one of the victim advocates

4:42:30with the Reno Police Department. Um, so

4:42:33really what I would like to say is as a

4:42:34victim advocate, our role is to support

4:42:36the victims throughout the entire

4:42:38process. Um, a lot of these are going to

4:42:41be the most difficult times of their

4:42:42lives and the most frightening days. Um,

4:42:46often they're feeling scared and like

4:42:48they don't have a voice.

4:42:50One of these cases I'm going to provide

4:42:52you is a young female who went on two

4:42:54casual dates um with a male and ended

4:42:58communication shortly after. She began

4:43:01being stalked and he was texting her on

4:43:05social media and began showing up at her

4:43:08workplace in her home. She had not

4:43:09provided him any of that information. As

4:43:12advocates, we safety planned with her.

4:43:15Um, we helped her get a protection order

4:43:18and spoke with her about what it could

4:43:20look like moving forward. With

4:43:22technology, detectives were able to get

4:43:25additional information about him and

4:43:28were able to arrest this individual.

4:43:30Without that, she wouldn't have had any

4:43:33sense of safety. Um, she was able to

4:43:37leave the home without looking over her

4:43:39shoulder and to sleep at night knowing

4:43:41that this person was in jail.

4:43:44The second case I'd like to talk to you

4:43:45about

4:43:47was a female. She was at a bar. She met

4:43:50a male. They began talking. They shared

4:43:52contact information. They became

4:43:54friends. She got a feeling that this

4:43:56wasn't going where she wanted it to. She

4:43:58ended communication. Within a month

4:44:01period, she got over 2,000

4:44:04emails, phone calls, and texts from

4:44:07different numbers threatening her life

4:44:10and her pet's life. This individual then

4:44:13started stating that he knew where she

4:44:15lived. This created an extreme sense of

4:44:18fear for her which I think all of us

4:44:21would feel the same exact way. Um if

4:44:24you're if your body is you know being

4:44:26threatened in your beloved pet as well.

4:44:29She ended up not having her family come

4:44:32and visit her at her home because she

4:44:34was concerned for their safety as well.

4:44:36As advocates we provided her with ex,

4:44:39you know, extensive safety planning

4:44:41around her home, around her work, around

4:44:43technology. Um we spoke about we she was

4:44:47able to get a protection order as well.

4:44:50Um but that can only do so much. That is

4:44:52a piece of paper essentially. um when

4:44:54your life is being threatened. And with

4:44:57technology, she was able to um you know

4:45:01get that sense of security because

4:45:02detectives were on top of it and they

4:45:04were assisting her through this process

4:45:07and she was able to sleep restfully for

4:45:10the first time in a month because of

4:45:12these tools that we have available at

4:45:15the police department. Another case I

4:45:17would like to speak to you about is a

4:45:19pretty sensitive case. Um, it's about a

4:45:21family that experienced um a murder.

4:45:25This family experienced a unimaginable

4:45:28sense of loss of their loved one who was

4:45:30murdered outside of their home. The

4:45:32suspect had been reportedly following

4:45:34the victim for multiple days and he was

4:45:38following her from her work to this

4:45:40residence. Tragically, her mother and

4:45:42her son were the ones who found her.

4:45:45And this

4:45:47sudden sense of loss and trauma

4:45:51associated what with what they had

4:45:53experienced. With that, he had also

4:45:55threatened their lives as well. Victim

4:45:58advocates stepped in and provided them

4:46:01with a safe place to stay um and safety

4:46:05planned extensively with this family.

4:46:08With that, detectives were able to use

4:46:10technology to find this person and take

4:46:13them into custody. This family

4:46:15experienced such trauma with what they,

4:46:18you know, had just seen, but also that

4:46:21sense that they were unsafe themselves

4:46:24and this could happen to them. So with

4:46:27them being able to tuck take him into

4:46:29custody so quickly, they were able to

4:46:31start going through that grief process

4:46:34and get some sense of peace knowing that

4:46:37he cannot come after them anymore. So

4:46:40with these cases, we just want to

4:46:42provide you some information from the

4:46:44victim's standpoint because a lot of

4:46:46times that gets forgotten about when

4:46:48we're talking about law enforcement and

4:46:49civilians. There are so many victims in

4:46:52this community who have to work with us,

4:46:54have to experience all of this and we

4:46:57just wanted to give them a voice in this

4:46:58as well. So, thank you for having me.

4:47:01>> Thank you so much. [snorts]

4:47:04>> Thank you, Jenna. Thank you, Mayor Saul,

4:47:06for

4:47:08really highlighting what it is behind

4:47:09the scenes that happens in these in

4:47:11these cases and the fact that we have so

4:47:13many passionate

4:47:15uh

4:47:17volunteers and grants and now staffed

4:47:21positions and interns through the

4:47:22university for our victim advocacy

4:47:24group. It's truly amazing the work that

4:47:27Mayor Saul and her team do on a daily

4:47:28basis to make sure that case management

4:47:30that when the officer leaves the scene

4:47:32that that family is still cared for,

4:47:34that family is still seen, that family

4:47:35is still followed up on. So, thank you

4:47:37both ladies for your work and what you

4:47:39do in your in your daily jobs. At the

4:47:41end of the day, I know we have a

4:47:42difficult decision ahead of us. I know

4:47:45that it's politically sensitive. Um, Sir

4:47:48Robert Peele said it best. Uh, the

4:47:50founder of the Metropolitan Police

4:47:52Department, "The police are the people

4:47:54and the people are the police. We want

4:47:56our community grown from those

4:47:57individuals that come from our

4:47:59community. We want them to be homegrown.

4:48:01They want we want them to understand and

4:48:04be a part of this community. While I may

4:48:06not have been born here, I was raised

4:48:08here. I've raised my family here. My

4:48:10three children, my wife, my parents, my

4:48:13brother. Our families live here. We have

4:48:16vested interest. We have skin in the

4:48:18game as to what our community looks like

4:48:20moving forward. The challenge is how do

4:48:22we do that while facing the increased

4:48:24demand with limited surfaces.

4:48:27[snorts]

4:48:28I've showed you the efficiency tools

4:48:29that we have as part of this package

4:48:31that will be a gamecher for law

4:48:32enforcement. It will never never replace

4:48:35boots on the ground, but it allows us

4:48:37the opportunity to deploy our resources

4:48:40smarter and safer.

4:48:42We have taken a different look at social

4:48:44media and the story that the Reno Police

4:48:46Department is telling to our community

4:48:48through the use of that technology. And

4:48:50I know we didn't provide it today. Uh I

4:48:52did provide it during my my 90-day

4:48:54update of with our success stories with

4:48:56drone as a first responder. We're able

4:48:58to get and clear over 50% of our PO

4:49:01patrol calls by getting an eye on the

4:49:03sky and putting those resources where

4:49:05they need to be back in the community

4:49:08just by having a bird's eye view. We're

4:49:10also able to beat patrol almost 70% of

4:49:12the time to the call. So then depending

4:49:15upon what the call is, a lot of times as

4:49:17a law enforcement officer, I can tell

4:49:18you what you're dispatched to and what

4:49:19you arrive at are two different things.

4:49:21So it gives our opportunities for our

4:49:23pilots to either calm that situation

4:49:25down and say, "No, this isn't what

4:49:27you're responding to." Or, "Hey, there's

4:49:29a lot of times when I was dispatched to

4:49:30something and by the time you got there,

4:49:32the suspect description was gone and

4:49:33you're like, I I've got nothing. So I'm

4:49:35going to be checking the area." and then

4:49:36you clear the call, I'm unable to

4:49:38locate. What type of community service

4:49:40is that? We're able to bring more

4:49:41resolution to calls for service. We're

4:49:45able to do a safer response. And

4:49:47additionally, too, we're limiting the

4:49:49amount of pursuits that we have to

4:49:50engage in which endanger our public, not

4:49:52our police driving, but the way the

4:49:53violator drives for the for the safety

4:49:56of the citizens in the community. We

4:49:58wait until that car lands at a location

4:49:59and then we send the resources to bear.

4:50:01We don't have to chase it anymore. Our

4:50:04approach is we use the available

4:50:05technology with a strong policy that

4:50:07puts our safeguards in place. I've

4:50:09listened to this council. I've listened

4:50:11to the community. I feel that we've

4:50:13addressed a majority of the concerns

4:50:15versus just getting rid of it and

4:50:16throwing it away. This is an opportunity

4:50:18for us to continue this pathway forward

4:50:21because we have shown it is successful.

4:50:23We haven't shown that it's been misused

4:50:25in our community. We have an opportunity

4:50:27to be responsible with this technology

4:50:29to put these safeguards in place and to

4:50:30hold our people accountable if there are

4:50:32misuses within our policy or within our

4:50:35department that haven't been documented

4:50:37here that have been documented

4:50:38elsewhere. Again, we can't control what

4:50:40happens in other jurisdictions, but we

4:50:41have the opportunity to do that here

4:50:42today for us. And it does improve case

4:50:45solvability. It does bring resolution to

4:50:47victims and families. and I am here to

4:50:50entertain any questions that this uh

4:50:52council may have uh with my team and or

4:50:55I if I can't answer myself.

4:50:58>> All right. Thank you very much.

4:51:03Okay, Madame Clerk. Um Chief, we do um

4:51:07Chief Fino.

4:51:09>> Yes, ma'am.

4:51:09>> You you don't have any other

4:51:11presentations?

4:51:13>> No, ma'am.

4:51:13>> From the uh provider?

4:51:17>> No. Are they here?

4:51:18>> They are here, ma'am. So, if we have any

4:51:20questions, we are we are prepared to

4:51:21answer them collectively.

4:51:23>> Thank you. Appreciate that. All right.

4:51:25I'm going to send it um to Madame Clerk.

4:51:30>> Okay. For public comment, uh Logan Folk

4:51:34followed by Anthony Postman, followed by

4:51:36Leslie Eisenberg.

4:51:52>> [clears throat]

4:51:52>> Hello, mayor, council members.

4:51:54>> Uh, my name is Logan Faulk. I am a

4:51:57lifetime resident of the Reno and Sparks

4:52:00area. [clears throat]

4:52:02I'm here to express fervent opposition

4:52:05to item C1 and encourage a no vote from

4:52:08all of you on the over $21 million

4:52:117-year contract with Axon that includes

4:52:14installation and use of ALPRs and drones

4:52:17in Reno.

4:52:19I will echo the concerns expressed

4:52:21earlier and say that AOPRs are a deeply

4:52:23inefficient and ineffective use of

4:52:26taxpayer dollars for the stated purpose

4:52:28of community safety and security.

4:52:31I used to work in corporate America, so

4:52:34I'm well accustomed to seeing lightly

4:52:36rebranded corporate decks like these.

4:52:39Um, what I'm unaccustomed to is a lack

4:52:42of actual success criteria at scale,

4:52:45which I'm sure if there were, we would

4:52:47have seen. Uh, we saw a handful of, uh,

4:52:52anecdotes. I think I counted about 10.

4:52:55Um, loaded with some rather emotionally

4:52:57charged language. I applaud the

4:53:00restraint to not say super predator out

4:53:02loud, but I'm sure we all heard it.

4:53:04[sighs]

4:53:06Um,

4:53:10with those I did not see like actual

4:53:12hard numbers justifying what the return

4:53:14on investment is for the technology

4:53:16currently in use. Um, it's not new

4:53:19technology as we were repeatedly

4:53:21reassured. And if we were seeing a

4:53:23return on investment at scale, I have to

4:53:25imagine that would have been front and

4:53:26center in such a presentation given the

4:53:30concerns expressed here today.

4:53:33Um those 10 anecdotes,

4:53:36um while certainly compelling, are out

4:53:39of the average 13,000 violent crime

4:53:41cases in Reno annually, which represents

4:53:44a fraction of percent of criminal

4:53:46investigations. And given that fact, I

4:53:48am not convinced the pros outweigh the

4:53:50cons here. There are additional hidden

4:53:53costs to such contracts in the form of

4:53:55legal fees over lawsuits on civil rights

4:53:59violations, wrongful arrests,

4:54:01warrantless searches which AOPRs and

4:54:04such technologies are notorious for

4:54:06causing. RPD is currently embroiled in

4:54:09such a lawsuit alleging 170 such

4:54:12wrongful arrests, the legal proceedings

4:54:14for which I am sure the taxpayer dollars

4:54:16will also be feeling. This compounds

4:54:19with the well doumented abuses enabled

4:54:21by AOPRs such as the as mentioned before

4:54:24stalking and harassment of current and

4:54:26ex partners by police. I'm not uh

4:54:30comforted by more administrative leave

4:54:32again paid by taxpayers addressing that.

4:54:34I'm not comforted by Axon's claims that

4:54:38they do not share this data with the

4:54:39federal government. The federal

4:54:41government is still able to requisition

4:54:42data from Flock, from Motorola, and from

4:54:44Axon via provisions like HIDA regardless

4:54:48of whatever their company policies are.

4:54:52AL PRS and such technologies do not

4:54:54provide safety or security. They are

4:54:56wasteful, ineffective, and harmful to

4:54:58the communities they purport to protect.

4:55:01>> All right, thank you.

4:55:05>> Anthony Postman, followed by Leslie

4:55:07Eisenberg, followed by Paul Leonard.

4:55:15Mayor.

4:55:16>> Hi, Anthony.

4:55:17>> Um, I'm Anthony Postman, A Reno

4:55:20resident, and I'm here to ask if um,

4:55:23this is the Halloween special where all

4:55:25the eyes on the walls follow us. Um, so

4:55:29bit of a weird deja vu after the seven

4:55:31uh the July 22nd meeting when madame

4:55:34mayor and uh council member door stated

4:55:37that there would be an agenda item to

4:55:38discuss flock cameras, their use in the

4:55:40city, how data is managed, um the

4:55:43protocols and safety that are in place

4:55:45within 3 months. And then now with the

4:55:49non-renewal flock, there's suddenly this

4:55:51contract up for consolidation for Axon.

4:55:55Um, it's not that we collectively don't

4:55:57favor Flock or Vigilant or Motorola or

4:55:59Axon. Um, we don't. But it's not the

4:56:03brand as much as the technology. Um, the

4:56:06water, heat, energy intensive AI based

4:56:09technology that sweeps and mines all

4:56:12people in public and private spaces. Um,

4:56:16a violation

4:56:18of our fourth amendment rights.

4:56:20Uh, Mayor Shivi and council members, you

4:56:24and your children, uh, your families are

4:56:27mined and swept as well. Um, this is the

4:56:31street level view to the tech that is so

4:56:33seemingly covert and [clears throat] yet

4:56:36blatantly invasive.

4:56:39Um, now I I'd seen this. I'm not sure if

4:56:41this stat is right, especially after the

4:56:43presentation just now from RPD, but I

4:56:45had looked up um this year's crime

4:56:47stats. Um, and this is from nevada

4:56:51crimestats.nv.gov.

4:56:54And they had reported, now this may be

4:56:57erroneous, so I'm not sure, but that was

4:56:58reported there on that website that this

4:57:01year 2026 shows a a decrease in violent

4:57:04crimes. And on that website, it said um

4:57:06- 61%. So I don't know if that's

4:57:09accurate, if that could indeed be

4:57:10accurate. Um, but that's that's what I

4:57:12saw. So that was alarming. And and for

4:57:13me to see that, then I had to ask, is

4:57:15this a time that we need to feed Axon um

4:57:1821 million for ALPRs? And I recognize

4:57:21that's not the entire amount on the

4:57:23cameras.

4:57:25Um but is this the time to you know feed

4:57:27the company that much more especially

4:57:30given um the rise in budget for RPD from

4:57:33year 2026 from um 123 almost 123 um uh

4:57:40sorry from 114 to almost 124 million. So

4:57:44that's a sizable increase already in the

4:57:46police budget. Um, what if that 21

4:57:50million plus um for Axon plus the 9

4:57:53million million increase in RPD for the

4:57:55coming year went to develop affordable

4:57:57housing or to pay our teachers what they

4:57:59are truly worth, a salary at least

4:58:01comparable to that of a police officer

4:58:04um or maybe more community engagement.

4:58:07Um so this tracks weirdly right now to

4:58:10be uh here so close to an election. It

4:58:13feels like there's a rush to push the

4:58:15contract through. Um big profit for a

4:58:18tech company at the price of our

4:58:19personal sovereignty, our freedom to

4:58:21move a

4:58:29thank you Anthony

4:58:33Leslie Eisenberg, followed by Paul

4:58:34Lonard, followed by Greg Nuttle.

4:58:37>> Leslie Eisenberg, Ward Six.

4:58:40Uh when I moved to Reno one year ago, um

4:58:44it was because it's beautiful here and

4:58:45there's so many fun things to do and the

4:58:47people are so kind and welcoming.

4:58:50Now I'm concerned that Renu could join

4:58:51the many cities around this country that

4:58:53are turning into a surveillance state.

4:58:55I'm glad you cancelled the flock

4:58:57contract, but terrified you're

4:58:59considering switching to Axon, which

4:59:01provides an all-in-one system combining

4:59:03ALPR detections with body cameras, fixed

4:59:06cameras, sensors, office locations,

4:59:10tasers, drones, and AI reporting.

4:59:12According to deflocktheusa.com,

4:59:16when one vendor's software touches every

4:59:18stage of an encounter, from the moment a

4:59:20car is flagged to the moment a report

4:59:22lands on a prosecutor's desk, you get a

4:59:24closed loop system

4:59:27where the same company profits from

4:59:28surveillance, use of force,

4:59:30documentation, and the legal outcome.

4:59:33That's not a conspiracy theory. It's

4:59:35just vertical integration.

4:59:38Mayor [clears throat] mentioned, you

4:59:39mentioned that Sky with Sky Tavern, we

4:59:41should keep big companies uh from taking

4:59:45over our land. Um I don't want big AI

4:59:48companies taking over our local policing

4:59:53um to watch our every move from on the

4:59:56street in the sky.

4:59:59I feel like I'm in that Tom Cruz movie,

5:00:02Minority Report, where sensient beings

5:00:04solve pre-rime. Um, except AI is not

5:00:07sensient and it makes mistakes. ALPRs do

5:00:11not improve public safety. We've got

5:00:13nationwide reporting of inaccuracies,

5:00:15wrongful accusations, stalking, and

5:00:17abuse. And in Reno, we already have the

5:00:19Killinger lawsuit claiming 170 unlawful

5:00:24wrongful arrests by RPD. And I'll also

5:00:27remind you what powers the AI

5:00:29surveillance systems. the city will pay

5:00:32for the very hyperscale data centers

5:00:36that you put a moratorum on.

5:00:39There is no ROI because there's no real

5:00:42proof that ALPRs reduce crime. You know

5:00:45what does? Redirecting tax dollars from

5:00:48mass surveillance to housing, feeding,

5:00:52and educating our citizens.

5:00:56Vote no on the Axon contract and set an

5:00:59agenda item to discuss the use of AI

5:01:01surveillance technology like you're

5:01:03promised back in July.

5:01:05Canceling flock is not good enough.

5:01:09Let's keep Reno beautiful, safe, and

5:01:12welcoming. When it comes to AI

5:01:14surveillance systems, let's join the

5:01:16growing list of cities that have done

5:01:18the right thing. Deactivate. Remove.

5:01:22Thank you.

5:01:26Paul Lonard, followed by Greg Nuttle,

5:01:28followed by Lisa Lee.

5:01:37Hi. It's been a while since uh I've

5:01:41spoken here.

5:01:43That's a joke. Um,

5:01:48>> that was a very nice presentation by the

5:01:50new uh chief of police and uh you know I

5:01:55am sympathetic to victim concerns about

5:01:57chain of evidence and so forth. My late

5:02:01wife Yolanda was a victim of an assault.

5:02:05It would not have been helped by having

5:02:09any drones or other forms of

5:02:13surveillance around since like many

5:02:16assaults, it was in an outofthe-way

5:02:19place in the portico of our apartment

5:02:22building.

5:02:25That said,

5:02:28the good faith of the new chief of

5:02:32police

5:02:35is assumed.

5:02:37I will give him credit. I will assume

5:02:40that

5:02:43his asurances

5:02:45that what happens in Reno stays within

5:02:48Reno

5:02:50sounds good.

5:02:52However, we have seen throughout the

5:02:55country

5:02:56cases where local authorities have been

5:03:01superseded

5:03:02by an increasingly authoritarian

5:03:06federal government.

5:03:09a federal government which is currently

5:03:12violating

5:03:14parliamentary immunity.

5:03:17In the case of one of our Congress

5:03:19people,

5:03:21[clears throat]

5:03:23a federal government which has set its

5:03:27attack dogs on citizens as well as

5:03:30non-citizens.

5:03:32Many of us warned you that if it would

5:03:34start with non-citizens, but it would

5:03:37not end there.

5:03:40I have no assurance

5:03:43that a for-profit corporation

5:03:48will keep the data that it has access to

5:03:53confidential.

5:03:56I was born a free man.

5:04:00I intend to die a free man.

5:04:04We had a nice presentation about the

5:04:07arts and recreation activities of this

5:04:10area and I applaud those who go ahead

5:04:13and further that. However,

5:04:16arts and recreation

5:04:21well that can be just another gilded

5:04:25cage with a good weight room.

5:04:30Sometimes I think that this whole world

5:04:32is one big prison yard. Some of us are

5:04:36prisoners and some of us are guards.

5:04:39Thank you.

5:04:40>> All right. Thank you,

5:04:44>> Greg Nuttle. Followed by Lisa Lee,

5:04:46followed by Christian D. Brown.

5:04:53>> Hi, Greg Nuttle. For the record, good

5:04:55morning, Mayor Shivy and members of the

5:04:56council. Um, I had a very nice, concise

5:05:012 minute 40 second statement to read

5:05:03here for you today. But after the past

5:05:05hour of listening to the litany of

5:05:09increasingly audacious claims from the

5:05:12Reno Police Department, I uh spent that

5:05:16time writing down

5:05:18five pages of comments and questions

5:05:20until I ran out of paper. So, I'm

5:05:23changing my spiel here. [laughter]

5:05:26>> Okay. I'm going to ask you a very simple

5:05:27thing. Um, I'm asking this council to do

5:05:32the only responsible thing here and we

5:05:35need we need a motion to continue on

5:05:38agenda item C1. There are too many

5:05:40questions. There are too many unanswered

5:05:43concerns that have just multiplied for

5:05:46me over the course of the past hour. Um,

5:05:51Council Member Taylor, as my Ward One

5:05:53representative, please make a motion to

5:05:56continue item C1 until you've listened

5:05:58to your constituents and examined this

5:06:01contract. The city council is supposed

5:06:03to oversee the Reno Police Department,

5:06:07not simply approve whatever it puts in

5:06:09front of you. Approving an eight-year

5:06:11contract with unanswered questions about

5:06:14surveillance would tell the public that

5:06:16the priorities of this police department

5:06:18matter more than the rights of the

5:06:20people that you represent. That is not

5:06:23leadership. That is an abdication of

5:06:25your responsibility to this community.

5:06:28Thank you. Please have the courage to do

5:06:30what's right. That's all.

5:06:31>> Thank you, Greg.

5:06:34>> Lisa Lee, followed by Christian D.

5:06:36Brown, followed by Darlin Reick.

5:06:40I'm going to stick to my spiel.

5:06:43[clears throat] My name is Lisa Lee.

5:06:44Thank you for the opportunity to speak

5:06:45in opposition to item C1. I'm here today

5:06:48because I believe in something simple

5:06:50and profoundly American. The government

5:06:52should not monitor innocent people and

5:06:54it should not silence them when they

5:06:56speak up about that monitoring. I'll

5:06:58start with mass surveillance. From a

5:07:00public health perspective, mass

5:07:02surveillance is not neutral. It changes

5:07:04how people behave. When people feel

5:07:06watched, they withdraw. and isolation is

5:07:08a silent killer. Eroding trust in social

5:07:11networks causes measurable harm and

5:07:14undermines community well-being. Mass

5:07:16surveillance systems like ALPR networks

5:07:19raise serious constitutional concerns

5:07:21because higher courts have repeatedly

5:07:23held that aggregated long-term tracking

5:07:25of a person's movements is a fourth

5:07:27amendment search. Federal judges

5:07:29applying these principles have begun to

5:07:31rule that warrantless ALPR databases

5:07:34constitute indiscriminate mass

5:07:36surveillance while others have disagreed

5:07:39creating an emerging emerging judicial

5:07:41split. But across the higher court

5:07:43presidents the line is clear when

5:07:46government compiles detailed location

5:07:49data on ordinary people it triggers

5:07:50heightened Fourth Amendment

5:07:53scrutiny. Government exists to protect

5:07:55rights not to catalog citizens

5:07:57movements. ALPRs don't target criminals.

5:08:00They track everyone. They build a

5:08:03searchable log of daily life. Where you

5:08:04worship, where you seek medical care,

5:08:06who you visit, what meetings you attend.

5:08:08That's not public safety. It's mass data

5:08:11collection on innocent people. And it is

5:08:14incompatible with a free society. When

5:08:16residents raise concerns about

5:08:18surveillance, we deserve to be heard,

5:08:20not silenced. Recently, I commented on

5:08:23my council members official government

5:08:25social media account asking why the city

5:08:27was switching ALPR vendors without

5:08:29addressing the underlying issue of mass

5:08:31surveillance. Instead of answering, the

5:08:34council member blocked me, a

5:08:36constituent. Let me be clear, public

5:08:38officials cannot block constituents from

5:08:40official government accounts because

5:08:42they dislike the viewpoint being

5:08:44expressed. Federal courts have

5:08:46repeatedly affirmed this through two

5:08:47major 2019 cases. If a public official

5:08:51uses the account to communicate

5:08:52government information, they can't

5:08:54exclude constituents because of their

5:08:56criticism.

5:08:57And that's the irony here. The same

5:08:59impulse that drives mass surveillance,

5:09:01the desire to control the narrative, to

5:09:03monitor, to manage disscent, shows up

5:09:05again when officials silence

5:09:07constituents instead of engaging them.

5:09:10We deserve better. We deserve a

5:09:12government that respects privacy,

5:09:14respects dissent, and upholds the

5:09:16Constitution. We deserve safety that

5:09:18comes from strong community, not

5:09:20tracking everyone's movements. And we

5:09:22deserve elected officials who respond to

5:09:25concerns instead of blocking people.

5:09:27Mass surveillance is a threat to

5:09:28liberty. Silencing constituents is a

5:09:31threat to democracy. And both must be

5:09:33rejected. Thank you.

5:09:37>> Christian D. Brown followed by Darlin

5:09:39Vretic, followed by Steven Zipkin.

5:09:44[clears throat] Morning,

5:09:46council members.

5:09:48So, yeah, it's tough. Um, I see the pros

5:09:50and what this technology could do in the

5:09:52right hands and how it could be used to

5:09:54help victims and, you know,

5:09:56bring about a sense of safety to people.

5:09:59But, you know, simply said, "Y'all

5:10:02should know better. You should know

5:10:04better." I expect you guys at this point

5:10:07to know about the larger systems at play

5:10:10and what Axon and these systems of mass

5:10:12surveillance really mean at their core

5:10:14control. This is much more than local

5:10:17law enforcement.

5:10:18People have gotten by without ALPRs and

5:10:20mass surveillance for hundreds of

5:10:22thousands of years. We don't need it

5:10:24now. You shall not build this cage

5:10:26around us. For we will eventually break

5:10:28free and we will remember.

5:10:31and you will have nothing left but a def

5:10:33deficit and a tarnished legacy. The

5:10:35children of tomorrow will remember the

5:10:37decisions you are making today. Think

5:10:40bigger.

5:10:41$22 million is a lot of money. A lot of

5:10:44money that could be invested in building

5:10:46up the bottom level of our community and

5:10:48actually helping people who need it.

5:10:50With the loss of SNAP benefits coming

5:10:52next year and other social systems soon

5:10:53to follow, there's a question that

5:10:55should be asked. Do we want to help

5:10:56people or do we want to police them?

5:10:59While I appreciate the cancellation of

5:11:01the flock contract, Axon is far worse.

5:11:04Having deeper ties to a state that puts

5:11:06private property over human lives and is

5:11:08actively investing in a genocide and

5:11:10oppression of people overseas. Axon is

5:11:13not to be trusted. The police state is

5:11:15not to be trusted. Many of us feel more

5:11:18unsafe with police officers around than

5:11:20we do with our unhoused neighbors.

5:11:22Something to be said about that. They

5:11:24systematically have shown us that they

5:11:26are not trustworthy with the power they

5:11:27wield. and if you must surveil us, do

5:11:30not use this company.

5:11:33While the police chief says that they

5:11:35won't abuse this and use it for terrible

5:11:36things, it only takes a change of law or

5:11:39a change of leadership to completely

5:11:41turn this against the people. People are

5:11:43not infallible, and it is only a matter

5:11:45of time. Listen to the people, the

5:11:48people who do the work, the research,

5:11:50and come here to speak without being

5:11:52paid because they care. We say no. No.

5:11:58Thank you.

5:12:03>> Darlin Vretic followed by Steven Zipkin

5:12:05followed by Samuel Sheridan.

5:12:10>> Okay. Steven Zipkin.

5:12:13>> What happened to the Who was before me?

5:12:18>> Okay.

5:12:18>> Um, how many do you have, Madam Clerk?

5:12:23>> I have 41 in the queue, including Zoom.

5:12:25>> Okay. So, we still have a long way to

5:12:28go. So, I'm going to ask everyone.

5:12:30I can't see that far.

5:12:33>> I think um so if you are second next to

5:12:38uh the person speaking, would you please

5:12:40come and sit over here so we can just

5:12:43keep going and then if if you aren't

5:12:45here, then we'll just put you in the

5:12:46back and make sure you get your turn on

5:12:49the back end. So,

5:12:51>> yeah.

5:12:51>> Okay. Go go go for it.

5:12:53>> Um happy Halloween.

5:12:55>> Happy Halloween. Um, so I I you're

5:12:57right, we do have a long way to go. So I

5:12:59want to question why RPD was given over

5:13:02an hour to make their comments. Um, you

5:13:05know, th this is this is the public

5:13:07comment section, right? And it shows

5:13:10clear favoritism that one side of the

5:13:12argument was given unlimited time to

5:13:14present their argument and one side is

5:13:16limited to three minutes per person. Um,

5:13:18it's absolutely unacceptable and it's a

5:13:19gross miscarriage of democratic

5:13:21standards. You know, like there are

5:13:24plenty of people here who have done tons

5:13:25and tons of research. You had someone

5:13:27saying he had five pages of notes he

5:13:29wrote on top of what he had prepared

5:13:32before today. And if all of us were

5:13:35given an hour, we have evidence on

5:13:37evidence. We have anecdotes on

5:13:39anecdotes. And to give one side of an

5:13:42argument unlimited time to present and

5:13:45let them have a PowerPoint and this and

5:13:47that and the other and give the other

5:13:48side three minutes a piece tips the

5:13:50scales. It gives us less opportunity to

5:13:53present our evidence. And so I do have

5:13:55to say I I second the motion to

5:13:58continue. I know I'm not a city

5:13:59councelor, but I second the motion to

5:14:01continue and delay this vote because the

5:14:04the this item has not been handled

5:14:07properly today. This is this is really

5:14:09inappropriate. The fact that one side of

5:14:12this argument was given more leeway to

5:14:14make their argument than the other. It's

5:14:16it's absolutely unfair and it is going

5:14:18to result in a tilted perception by you

5:14:21all um who are not immune to bias. A

5:14:24tilted perception by you all as to what

5:14:26the right side you know of this argument

5:14:28is. Um with that I want to say that this

5:14:32is unconstitutional to surveil a

5:14:34civilian population right and this is a

5:14:37big tech company. Big tech is an

5:14:39industry that has come up entirely in an

5:14:42era of American politics where no

5:14:44serious regulation is considered on any

5:14:46big business. And they've used their

5:14:49immunity from regulation

5:14:52to um to advance disinformation

5:14:56campaigns about things like vaccines

5:14:58leading to a resurgence in measles. They

5:15:00have faced no obstacles as they trained

5:15:02body dysmorphia and eating disorders

5:15:04into children through social media. Um,

5:15:07they have sold personal information to

5:15:10advertisers, to our government, to other

5:15:13governments.

5:15:14And in doing so, big tech is the

5:15:18venomous pest that has butchered civil

5:15:20society. Today, we have the power to

5:15:22decide if we will allow them to also be

5:15:24the vulture picking at its corpse.

5:15:27Since its publishing, the book 1984 has

5:15:30been used as a point of comparison for

5:15:32many policies, sometimes hyperbolically.

5:15:35Today I ask emphatically that we avoid

5:15:37the literal implementation of the ills

5:15:39presented in this novel.

5:15:42I yield my time.

5:15:43>> All right. Thank you. Samuel Sheridan,

5:15:46followed by Alex Nay, followed by John

5:15:48Helmrike.

5:15:51>> Hi. Uh my name is Samuel Sheridan. Um,

5:15:54I've been a resident of Reno for most of

5:15:56my life and I love it here, but um, this

5:15:59certainly any, uh, extension of a

5:16:02contract with an ALPR would make me like

5:16:05it here a lot less. Um, [snorts]

5:16:07so the presentation given us to to us by

5:16:11RPD uh, involved a lot of guard rails.

5:16:14Um, however, what [snorts] happens when

5:16:17these guard rails uh are proven

5:16:19obsolete? What happens when these guard

5:16:21rails are averted by someone with mal

5:16:23intentions?

5:16:25Um, and the answer is we don't really

5:16:26know. However, um, the Institute of

5:16:29Justice has cataloged cataloged more

5:16:31than 200 incidents of ALPR abuse where

5:16:34people have gone [snorts] around these

5:16:37uh, guard rails to do really bad stuff.

5:16:40Um, so this includes romantic stalkings,

5:16:43wrongful stops and detentions, non-law

5:16:46enforcement use among other types. Uh

5:16:48this does not include just wrongful

5:16:50arrest which many people have brought up

5:16:52already is a big issue we're

5:16:53experiencing with the current ALPR

5:16:55system um which is flock. So [snorts]

5:16:58I'm speaking against um any ALPR system

5:17:00in any contract. Um so

5:17:06um additionally we can apply these kind

5:17:08of abuses here in Reno. So [snorts]

5:17:13um what might that look like? Well, um,

5:17:16just a couple years ago, former Reno

5:17:19Police Department Deputy Chief Thomas

5:17:20Robinson was arrested [snorts] for, uh,

5:17:23attempting to pay for sex with a

5:17:2517-year-old girl. Turned out that was a

5:17:28police officer. However, what happened

5:17:30if this technology was available to him,

5:17:33or what would have happened if this

5:17:34technology was available to him when he

5:17:37was in service? [snorts] And we don't

5:17:39know. Would he be able to track

5:17:4117-year-old girls as they drive home

5:17:42from high school?

5:17:44Um I have family and friends and loved

5:17:46ones here who

5:17:49um would be susceptible to this kind of

5:17:52abuses when it comes to surveillance

5:17:54technology.

5:17:56Um, and although this is just one

5:17:58example and this happened after um,

5:18:02[snorts]

5:18:03police officer Robinson retired, I am

5:18:05concerned that it could happen or be

5:18:07abused. Furthermore, with this

5:18:10technology by an officer who has access

5:18:12to this um, and yet alone someone who

5:18:14might gain access to it after Axon might

5:18:17be sold to another company after these

5:18:20guardrails are dropped for whatever

5:18:21reason or averted. Um, thank you for

5:18:24your time.

5:18:25>> All right. Thank you.

5:18:28>> John Helmrich followed by Lynden Jamie

5:18:31followed by Josh Haybear.

5:18:35>> All right. Hi, John.

5:18:39>> Good afternoon. Good afternoon. My name

5:18:42is John Helmrich. Uh I moved with my

5:18:45family here about 40 years ago. A little

5:18:49over.

5:18:49>> Four years ago.

5:18:50>> 40.

5:18:51>> Oh, 40 years ago. So I [laughter] count.

5:18:53Okay.

5:18:54I was going to say welcome.

5:18:56>> I am retired. Uh, and I appreciate the

5:18:58opportunity to make a comment here.

5:19:00Thank you. Okay, you guys have a tough

5:19:02job. I recognize that. You know, I'm

5:19:05also throwing away my prepared comments

5:19:08and going to try to respond to what I've

5:19:11seen this morning. And I think what I'd

5:19:14like you to focus on is not whether

5:19:17the AON

5:19:19programs are good or bad. Okay? But I'd

5:19:22like you to focus on timing. One of the

5:19:25things that I heard in the police

5:19:27report, which was very informative, was

5:19:30that uh they've been working on this for

5:19:33seven months.

5:19:35I think that's great. Okay. I consider

5:19:39myself sort of an average citizen. Maybe

5:19:42Garrison Keeler would think I'm slightly

5:19:44above average. I don't know. but to stay

5:19:47informed and the first that I'm hearing

5:19:50about it is within this week. Okay? And

5:19:53if your intent as council is to try to

5:19:56bring along the public to support a good

5:20:00decision, you have to bring that public

5:20:02along. And I don't think today you've

5:20:07done that. And I don't think you have

5:20:09time today to do that. Okay. The second

5:20:13thing on timing I'd like you to consider

5:20:15is that in a very short period of time,

5:20:17there's going to be different players on

5:20:18this council.

5:20:20Okay? It's not long. Okay? So, it's not

5:20:24asking you to delay it a long period of

5:20:26time, but I don't know why you'd want to

5:20:29deny those guys the pleasure of having

5:20:32to deal [laughter]

5:20:33>> with this issue.

5:20:34>> Exactly.

5:20:35>> Okay. So, you know, for those reasons, I

5:20:38really do support the suggestion that

5:20:41you continue this, that you not make a

5:20:44decision today. I recognize also that

5:20:47the police have a very tough job. You

5:20:50know, there's a lot of stuff going on.

5:20:52You know, it was a little confusing to

5:20:54me in their presentation because so many

5:20:57of the things that they advocated for

5:21:00are things that people don't have an

5:21:01issue with. I mean, we fought to get,

5:21:05you know, body cameras in place, okay?

5:21:08Because of the issues when they weren't

5:21:10there, camera issues. Drones are a

5:21:13technology that's great. [bell]

5:21:17>> You know, the issue is this issue of

5:21:19plate readers and and uh

5:21:23over surveillance. And it's an issue of

5:21:26what kind of a world people want to have

5:21:30>> and what kind of a world they think

5:21:32they're living in.

5:21:34>> And that's not an easy issue.

5:21:38>> Okay.

5:21:39>> Okay. You have five seconds.

5:21:41>> 5 second. You know, I want you to know

5:21:43that we have someone on the council who

5:21:45has actually experienced having their

5:21:48vehicle and their and their movements

5:21:51tracked.

5:21:53>> Okay. And I can tell you that when I

5:21:56talk to Neadans, they think it's

5:21:58terrible

5:22:00and you thought it was bad and they are

5:22:02sorry that that happened to you.

5:22:04>> Thank you, sir.

5:22:05>> Okay. And now you can say this is a

5:22:07different thing. It's not parallel, but

5:22:09there are elements of surveillance of

5:22:11data collection of data retention that

5:22:14exist with what happened to you.

5:22:18>> Thank you very much.

5:22:19>> Okay.

5:22:21>> And you're correct. I think Lynden Jamie

5:22:24may have left.

5:22:26So Josh Haybear followed by Lauren Laura

5:22:29Fallon followed by Dennis Vader.

5:22:32Hello. Uh Josh Abear for the record.

5:22:34Marina resident. I'm in Devon's ward.

5:22:37I'm also an active member of the NAACP

5:22:39and uh Pat Gallammore has authorized me

5:22:42to speak on behalf of the local chapter.

5:22:45Uh, I'd like to echo uh, Greg Nuttle

5:22:48saying that I think that it's wise to

5:22:50continue this because not enough time

5:22:51has been given to consider it. So, I

5:22:53agree with the chief that we need to

5:22:54slow things down. Uh, and he was

5:22:56recently at the NAACP Freedom Fund

5:22:58banquet and he did a great job mcing it

5:23:00and he said some things that really

5:23:02resonated with me. One is that he values

5:23:04transparency and he doesn't just like to

5:23:06say it, he thinks that's too easy, he

5:23:07wants to show it. I agree with that. I

5:23:10don't I don't think there's been enough

5:23:11transparency around this contract for

5:23:13the public and for all of you in order

5:23:15to be able to consider it. I don't know

5:23:17if you've been able to see it up to this

5:23:18point, but if it's been negotiated for 7

5:23:20months up to this point and now we're

5:23:22being given a week in order to consider

5:23:24it, I don't think that's a sign a

5:23:25sufficient length of time. And he also

5:23:28said that without public trust, there

5:23:30can be no public safety. And I think

5:23:32giving us a week in order to consider

5:23:34this contract is not a way to build that

5:23:37public trust in order so that we can

5:23:39have that public safety. Now,

5:23:41personally, I object to these ALPR

5:23:43readers as warrantless mass

5:23:45surveillance, but I know that not

5:23:47everybody agrees with that. Um, what I

5:23:49would like to focus on is the issue of

5:23:51data retention because ultimately what

5:23:53it comes down to is how long this

5:23:55information is kept. We're going to have

5:23:5650 of these outpost cameras, 136 of

5:23:59these ALPR readers in the dash cams and

5:24:01the cars. Are they on all the time? Are

5:24:03they always recording? Do we know

5:24:06answers to these questions? Are we

5:24:07having a rolling 30-day basically window

5:24:11of people are being tracked all over the

5:24:13city? I don't think that's something

5:24:15that we want the government to have. And

5:24:18if you look at the examples that the

5:24:19police gave uh in terms of how these

5:24:21systems are used, it's almost always

5:24:24instantaneous.

5:24:26They start tracking immediately. They

5:24:28find somebody within 24 hours. They find

5:24:30somebody within 48 hours. Why do we need

5:24:33to have 30 days of data in these

5:24:35systems? Now, I looked on Axon and 30

5:24:39days is the minimum that they offer, but

5:24:40I'm sure it's technologically possible

5:24:43for them to hold that data for a shorter

5:24:45amount of time. Uh, I also don't believe

5:24:47enough time has been given to consider

5:24:49the technology policy that the police

5:24:52recently put up like literally just on

5:24:54the 16th. I think there's a lot of good

5:24:56principles in there, but I think it's

5:24:57sorely lacking in specifics. For

5:25:00example, they talk about validated

5:25:02automated results. It's not defined

5:25:04anywhere. What is a validated automated

5:25:07result? How is it validated? How many

5:25:09people are involved in that validation

5:25:11for the different tiers of the

5:25:12technology? Do we require different

5:25:14tiers of of validation? And the auditing

5:25:17is all internal. I think they they

5:25:19describe a technology governance board.

5:25:21I think some of that auditing needs to

5:25:23be reported to the city so that we know

5:25:25what's going on and we know how this

5:25:27technology is being used. There are

5:25:29simply too many questions about this

5:25:30contract at this point for there to be a

5:25:33reasonable vote taken at this time. So,

5:25:34please continue this item.

5:25:37>> Great. Thank you.

5:25:41>> Laura Fallon followed by Dennis Vader.

5:25:43followed by Sean Sullivan.

5:25:44>> Okay, Dennis, are you here? Is Dennis

5:25:47here?

5:25:49All right, so whoever is after Dennis?

5:25:53Okay, go ahead. Afternoon.

5:25:56Former under sheriff Chief Sulfurino,

5:25:59former Sheriff Governor Joe Lombardo,

5:26:01for that matter, the majority of police

5:26:04are straight white men.

5:26:07Not a single one of you on this council

5:26:10have that same trifecta of privilege.

5:26:14A handful of you as little girls could

5:26:17sense that for some reason the boys were

5:26:19treated differently than we were before

5:26:22we knew words like the patriarchy.

5:26:25As gay people before any overt

5:26:28silencing, shaming, or teasing, we could

5:26:31sense that how people reacted to people

5:26:33quote like that wasn't quite the same as

5:26:36for other kids. For people of color, a

5:26:40knowing at a very young age that for

5:26:42some reason for them, safety and justice

5:26:46cuts differently. In such a world, it is

5:26:49so understandable that a young mind

5:26:52would come up with the seemingly

5:26:54self-protective tactic of sidling up to

5:26:57power for security, acting like a quote

5:27:00guy's girl, masking or code switching.

5:27:03But as adults, we also see and then know

5:27:07that proximity to violence does not in

5:27:10fact keep us safe. It just makes us the

5:27:13nearest person when the violence turns.

5:27:16We've all seen it in movies a hundred

5:27:18times. The mob boss spurned by another

5:27:21head turning and taking it out on his

5:27:24wife or a second in command. We see the

5:27:27same thing in politics.

5:27:29Even if you are marked down as having

5:27:32voted in favor, even if you were the one

5:27:35to spearhead the agenda item coming

5:27:37forward,

5:27:39sidling up to power over others will not

5:27:42ultimately keep you safe. Maybe

5:27:44Sulfurino and Lombardo, the old boys

5:27:47club, are happy at the moment because

5:27:50they believe things are on track with

5:27:52their interests here in Reno. But when

5:27:54the tide and their mood turns, there is

5:27:57no guarantee you will remain in their

5:27:59good graces. Even if you are chummy with

5:28:02them, even if you would take that bet,

5:28:05do you think their boss and their boss's

5:28:08boss in their sexist, racist, bigoted

5:28:11chain of command will remember and care

5:28:14about you in particular when you when

5:28:19the unfasilitated surveillance feed

5:28:22comes through, when the monitoring

5:28:24system analyzes the data based off its

5:28:27cold calculating algorithmic condition

5:28:30and flags you simply as a female, a gay

5:28:34person, a person of color. You may be

5:28:37sitting up there now, but you are one of

5:28:39us, a member of the oppressed majority.

5:28:43So vote like it. Vote no on the log

5:28:47rolled C1 proposal. Request a revision

5:28:50without surveillance, without the

5:28:52surveillance technology add-ons, i.e.

5:28:55the automated license plate readers,

5:28:58drones, etc. to come forward for a

5:29:00presentation and discussion after the

5:29:03new mayor and council.

5:29:11>> Okay,

5:29:12>> thank you.

5:29:13>> Sean Sullivan, followed by Bill Sims,

5:29:15followed by Alexander Milum.

5:29:22>> Uh, I have a pretty heavy comment

5:29:23prepared for y'all today. I want to

5:29:25start off by saying, um, thank you for

5:29:27cancing flock. That's a good step.

5:29:29They're pretty much an evil corporation

5:29:31based on their CEO's comments and

5:29:32everything. Uh it's kind of concerning,

5:29:34but anyways, uh and I do support

5:29:37costsaving, the consolidation of all

5:29:39these contracts. I support less than

5:29:40lethal means of policing. Um however,

5:29:44when there when faced with a an item

5:29:48that has something bad in it, you have

5:29:50to vote no or make a new motion perhaps

5:29:53to reconsider these mass surveillance

5:29:55technologies at a later date. It sounds

5:29:57like the contract can be modified. I

5:30:00didn't read all the details of it. Um,

5:30:03and I want to also get on public record

5:30:04that uh I do not feel safe leaving my

5:30:08house with my kids, especially because I

5:30:10know I'm being tracked and I know how

5:30:11insecure computer systems always are.

5:30:15Um, and I will go into this a little

5:30:18more soon, but I want to address the

5:30:20claims about oversight. Uh, we currently

5:30:22have uh no oversight because the police

5:30:25investigate themselves. There's ne my

5:30:27understanding is there's never been a

5:30:28conviction of wrongful death at hands of

5:30:32police although we have seen plenty of

5:30:34body cam that is deeply concerning.

5:30:37Um so yeah I would like to at least see

5:30:39a denial or a continuence or maybe a new

5:30:41motion to strip the this uh contract of

5:30:44all mass surveillance. And I'm also

5:30:46curious if y'all are exempt. I mean

5:30:48there's a safety argument that you guys

5:30:50are high value targets. Maybe you all

5:30:52are exempt. I've heard of or read about

5:30:54that happening in other places. And then

5:30:56I mean what's the difference? I mean we

5:30:59we deserve the equal equal treatment. Uh

5:31:03the institute institute of justice has a

5:31:06an extensive database that's only the

5:31:07most documented cases of abuse and

5:31:11surely there are more. Um so you can re

5:31:13review that.

5:31:16Um we I I submitted uh some pictures

5:31:20beforehand. This is a records request

5:31:22with the Sparks police. Uh I was

5:31:25requesting some public street footage.

5:31:27Supposedly this is public information

5:31:29that uh anyone can view these streets,

5:31:32but you can see no records were were

5:31:33released. Next slide, please.

5:31:36With with uh with that, I got on

5:31:41evidence.com. This is Axon's website,

5:31:43and you can see I'm watching a video of

5:31:44the Spark City Council right there. So

5:31:47uh that's how secure these systems are.

5:31:52Um next slide, please. This is just a

5:31:54report that Axon gave me. It had the

5:31:56names of the officers that were working

5:31:57on these files. And this records request

5:31:59took more months. It was delayed because

5:32:02of redactions and short staffing for

5:32:05months. This is the 5-day rule. And then

5:32:07ultimately, I got zero records. Anyways,

5:32:10clearly they were working on some

5:32:12records and chose not to release them.

5:32:14Maybe because I'm an activist

5:32:17and normally this wouldn't get reported,

5:32:18but I had the decency to report it to

5:32:20Axon and be ignored for two weeks. I

5:32:22reported it to the chief of Sparks

5:32:23police. He replied, but uh nothing's

5:32:26happened. Um

5:32:31>> thank you,

5:32:33>> Bill Sims, followed by Alexander Milum,

5:32:36followed by Deborah Gle.

5:32:43>> Um hi, St. Canelo, Mayor Shibi. Um, of

5:32:47course, my name is Bill Sims and I'm

5:32:50also here to uh ask that you guys do

5:32:54continuence on this because um and

5:32:57listening to the police chief uh talk

5:33:01about other parts of the US and

5:33:03everything. Um I just find it kind of

5:33:06interesting that he said, "Well, that's

5:33:09something that we don't do here in Reno.

5:33:13uh because we track everything, make

5:33:15sure nothing is being misused. However,

5:33:18I would venture to bet never being able

5:33:20to use my left hand again that there

5:33:23were policies in place whether

5:33:26internally or externally that the public

5:33:29knew about that actually said you can't

5:33:31do this, you can't do that. And yet

5:33:34people were still being stopped. Um, so

5:33:37I just think to say, well, because we

5:33:40have these policies in place doesn't

5:33:42mean that people can't remember license

5:33:45plate numbers. I mean, typically they're

5:33:47coming out of Nevada because we only

5:33:49have typical six numbers and letters for

5:33:52the most part. So, it's not that hard to

5:33:54remember. And um I also just wanted to

5:33:58point out um because of a case out of I

5:34:02believe Charlotte, North Carolina that

5:34:04just came out not too long ago about an

5:34:08officer who was using allegedly flaw

5:34:12cameras to track AfricanAmerican license

5:34:16plates to go harass them. uh and

5:34:20basically started a group uh chat with

5:34:23his fellow co-workers that basically

5:34:27were saying how can we do these to these

5:34:30you know what people typically would

5:34:33call people of white who are black and

5:34:37so knowing that that can happen sure he

5:34:41can say well none of my officers would

5:34:43ever do that but if I want to use that

5:34:46logic then that's like saying well

5:34:48doctors told my mom more than 42 years

5:34:50ago I was going to be a stillborn and

5:34:52I'm still here. So while I understand

5:34:55what he's saying that well we wouldn't

5:34:58do anything in regards to tracking

5:35:00people because they get abortions or

5:35:02because they're stalking their exes like

5:35:05it's already been set. policies can

5:35:07change um not on a whim, but of course

5:35:10they can change. And who knows what uh

5:35:14future police chiefs will put in place

5:35:17that actually could make uh tracking

5:35:21people using license platers

5:35:24uh even more dangerous because we

5:35:26already know it is dangerous. People are

5:35:29being tracked. uh they're being stopped

5:35:31and I just think that you guys really

5:35:34should do a continuence because um yeah,

5:35:38it definitely hasn't been discussed

5:35:40enough in my opinion to say that you

5:35:44guys should vote yes or no on this.

5:35:46Thanks.

5:35:46>> All right, thank you. V

5:35:50>> Alexander Milum followed by Deborah Gle

5:35:52followed by Katherine Olsen.

5:35:55>> Good afternoon, mayor and council

5:35:56members. My name is Alex Milum. I'm here

5:35:58with the Flockoff Coalition consisting

5:36:00of Northern Nevada DSA, Biggest Little

5:36:03Action Group, and Code Pink Reno.

5:36:06We urge you not to approve this contract

5:36:08today. I echo the call that you've

5:36:11already heard for continuence. Your

5:36:13constituents had have made it abundantly

5:36:15clear that we do not want ALPRs in the

5:36:18city, and we will not be mllified by a

5:36:20different brand name on the cameras.

5:36:23Pushing a seven-year contract for

5:36:25technology your constituents do not want

5:36:28right before an election would be a

5:36:30massive betrayal of public trust.

5:36:33Furthermore, this contract is a

5:36:35financial nightmare waiting to happen

5:36:36for the city of Reno. A nightmare that

5:36:38you would be dumping on the incoming

5:36:41mayor and counselors.

5:36:43Over the next few years, there will be

5:36:45legislation introduced to ban ALPRs.

5:36:47There will be continued court rulings

5:36:49around this technology that can affect

5:36:51how it's used and there will be

5:36:54unrelenting opposition from your

5:36:56constituents if this contract is passed.

5:36:59But if the city decides to stop using

5:37:01ALPRs and end this contract, we could be

5:37:03on the hook for a huge bill.

5:37:06per section 16

5:37:08of the master services agreement

5:37:12um included in agenda item 1 C. If the

5:37:16city terminates the contract, we're

5:37:17responsible for the MSRP of these

5:37:19products minus what has already been

5:37:21paid already. The only exception is in

5:37:23the case of nonappropriation

5:37:25if we return all the devices within 30

5:37:28days.

5:37:30As the chief said, this is part a of an

5:37:32existing contract. new technologies been

5:37:34added on. The actual MSRP on this

5:37:37contract is $44 million, not 21 million.

5:37:40Uh, with all the vehicle mounted

5:37:42technology, the odds of being able to

5:37:44remove it all and get it sent back in 30

5:37:47days might be iffy. We would be on the

5:37:50hook for the difference.

5:37:52Um, and it's not clear if you can

5:37:55separate out just one piece from the

5:37:57language in there.

5:37:59We acknowledge that the city council

5:38:01bears a responsibility for public

5:38:02safety, but mass surveillance does not

5:38:04make us safe. There are experts on these

5:38:07topics in the city. You should be

5:38:09consulting with them, not just with the

5:38:10police and vendors.

5:38:12This is why we asked you to agendaize

5:38:14the discussion on this topic, something

5:38:16you agreed to do in July.

5:38:19Instead, you've dropped a 75page

5:38:21contract on the people of Reno and given

5:38:24us just six days to review it. We tried

5:38:27to set up meetings with you to discuss

5:38:29this contract, but you require 21 days

5:38:31notice to meet with constituents. Since

5:38:34public contentment is the only avenue

5:38:36you've given us to discuss this, the

5:38:38next five kilometers will be following

5:38:39me back to back to elaborate on the

5:38:41issues of this contract. Again, I ask

5:38:44you not to approve the contract today

5:38:46and make a motion to continue.

5:38:50All right.

5:38:52Deborah Galet followed by Chris Moreno

5:38:55followed by Katherine Olsen.

5:38:57>> Good afternoon mayor and members of city

5:39:00council. My name is Deborah Galet and

5:39:02I'm here with the Flockoff Coalition and

5:39:04I'm continuing from the last comment. So

5:39:07for my part of our comment, I'll be

5:39:09discussing the three main components of

5:39:11the technology at issue in this

5:39:12contract. First, Axon Air with Skyo X10

5:39:16and R10 platforms. Second, Axon AI.

5:39:20Third, Fus. First, with respect to Axon

5:39:23Air, our comments here are pretty

5:39:25limited. We still have a pending public

5:39:28records request with Reno PD regarding

5:39:30the SkyO X10 with the same attachment

5:39:32configuration described in this contract

5:39:34that flew over us ahead of the July 22nd

5:39:37city hall. We shared photos of that

5:39:40drone during the public comment period

5:39:42that same day. If you look at the

5:39:44recording on the City of Reno YouTube

5:39:45from that meeting, this occurs at 1 hour

5:39:4745 minutes and 40 seconds. The request

5:39:50has now been pending for 88 days. It

5:39:54doesn't take two months to build or to

5:39:57use the built-in filter option on the

5:39:59flight page and select the relevant

5:40:01flights. We know this because we have a

5:40:03former SkyO employee in our coalition.

5:40:07Moving to Axon AI, this is effectively a

5:40:09chatbot to help the police automate

5:40:11portions of their tasking. According to

5:40:13Axon's own website, this technology will

5:40:15be used to quote, "cut report writing in

5:40:17half and breeze through the evidence

5:40:19review and redaction.

5:40:21City council should be familiar with the

5:40:23fact that AI tools are generally not

5:40:25reliable or accurate. A lesson Jason

5:40:28Kllinger exposed very clearly. What this

5:40:31means in practice is that officers

5:40:33instead of writing their own reports

5:40:35will click a button that will engage the

5:40:36AI tool to draft the report. Axon will

5:40:40certainly say that there is an accept an

5:40:42expectation that officers review and

5:40:44edit for accuracy. That covers Axon's

5:40:47liability, but we live in the real

5:40:49world. So, we know stuff happens.

5:40:51Officers will be rushed. Things will

5:40:53come up. Mistakes will be made. Those

5:40:55mistakes then become a sworn part of

5:40:57legal matters. So, what happens when a

5:41:00prosecutor realizes that Axon AI

5:41:02hallucinated a piece of evidence in a

5:41:04police report? Are you signing the

5:41:06prosecutor up to take the fall for that

5:41:07or the officer themselves? Did anyone at

5:41:10the police department consider this when

5:41:12looking at this deal? Or did they just

5:41:13like the sales pitch? For all the

5:41:16statements on how you need these

5:41:17technologies to c to catch the bad guys,

5:41:19you've never discussed what happens when

5:41:21this technology allows a bad guy to go

5:41:22free because an officer got distracted

5:41:25or short staffed and clicked the easy

5:41:26button. Fus is something that our group

5:41:29has talked about before. It's the brain

5:41:31that ties all this technology together.

5:41:34That software is facing its own class

5:41:35action lawsuit in California for

5:41:37violating privacy laws.

5:41:40Please do not approve the agreement with

5:41:42Axon as it stands that contains an

5:41:44abundance of surveillance technology.

5:41:46Please do your due diligence for your

5:41:47constituents and renegotiate this

5:41:49contract and allow the new mayor and

5:41:51council members to take office so that

5:41:53they can be the arbittors of this

5:41:54contract. Thank you.

5:41:59Chris Moreno, followed by Katherine

5:42:01Olsen, followed by Daniel Jenkins.

5:42:09>> Good afternoon. So, I'm Chris Marino.

5:42:11I'm here with the Flock Off campaign and

5:42:13I'm here to continue on from the last

5:42:14commentator. I'm here to discuss Axon

5:42:17Outpost and Fleet, the ALPR systems

5:42:19provided by Axon. First, let's look at

5:42:22Fleet 3. It is a patrolmounted version

5:42:24of the ALPR. Most folks would think of

5:42:26this as a dash cam, but this is one also

5:42:29includes ALPR technology. According to

5:42:32the manufacturer, this is capable of

5:42:33scanning three lanes of traffic at up to

5:42:35140 mph. Our Olympic skier we had here

5:42:38early would still be caught on this

5:42:40camera. Here's a photo from the Axon

5:42:42website covering the ALPR functionality

5:42:44of this system.

5:42:46Notice on the Axon's website, this item

5:42:49indicates it is a car video system

5:42:51designed to boost safety, transparency,

5:42:52and efficiency with mobile ALPR.

5:42:57Outpost is a device that we can think of

5:42:59as most similar to flot cameras. These

5:43:01are the polemounted standalone cameras

5:43:02that require solar power and provide the

5:43:04same basic functionality as flot does.

5:43:08So now when we look at this new contract

5:43:09proposed by Axon, we see uh on page 21

5:43:13of 31 that the hardware number 102032

5:43:16item Axon outpost camera quantity is at

5:43:1951. We look again at the same uh co

5:43:23contract and we see for item hardware

5:43:25number 72036

5:43:27item Axon fleet 3 standard 2 camera kit

5:43:30with a quantity of 138. So let's do some

5:43:33math and we see this is a total of 189

5:43:35ALPR cameras. This is way more than we

5:43:39currently have in flock and we want

5:43:40none.

5:43:42Now something that will be mentioned

5:43:44several times is that these technologies

5:43:45do not run facial recognition. So let's

5:43:47dive into that. Facial recognition is a

5:43:49subset of image recognition. So let's

5:43:51use that term. We agree the devices

5:43:54themselves don't run image recognition.

5:43:57To run image recognition software, you

5:43:59just need the image and the software on

5:44:00a machine. These devices take a picture

5:44:03and send it back to a database. The

5:44:05machine with the image recognition

5:44:06software then processes the image. That

5:44:09is how the system identifies plate

5:44:11numbers by using image recognition

5:44:12software. Facial recognition is just a

5:44:15different form of that same software. So

5:44:17does Axon use image recognition software

5:44:19beyond just reading license plate

5:44:21numbers? From their site, Axon Vision

5:44:23alerts teams the moment critical

5:44:25activity appears in camera feeds so they

5:44:27can access and act before situations

5:44:29escalate.

5:44:31That is an image recognition running on

5:44:33the video feeds. The camera that

5:44:35generates the feed does not matter. The

5:44:37feed just needs to exist to run image

5:44:39recognition software.

5:44:41Section 9 of the mass services and

5:44:42purchases agreement states Axon may make

5:44:44design or feature changes to any Axon

5:44:46device or service without notifying

5:44:48customer or making the same change to

5:44:50Axon devices and services previously

5:44:52purchased by the customer. So when does

5:44:54the public find out these changes are

5:44:55made? How can you guarantee our safety

5:44:57when Axon cannot be transparent?

5:45:00Do not pass this agenda. We encourage

5:45:02you to vote a continuing and keep these

5:45:05surveillance systems out of our

5:45:06community.

5:45:10>> Katherine Olsen, followed by Harrison

5:45:13Emory, followed by Daniel Jenkins.

5:45:19>> Does that just show up? Okay, thank you.

5:45:22>> Um, hello Mayor and members of city

5:45:24council. My name is Cat Olsen. I'm

5:45:26continuing off of the last comment

5:45:28today. Um, folks following local ALPR

5:45:30news will remember that Reno Police

5:45:32Chief Cory Sulfur Rino presented his

5:45:3490-day report to city council on

5:45:36September 9th. He shared a slide that

5:45:38presented surveillance technology

5:45:40currently in RPD's inventory, which you

5:45:43can see here. Specifically, his slide

5:45:45says ALPR cameras 29. At the bottom of

5:45:49that list, another block says fleet

5:45:51cameras 134. As a reminder, fleet

5:45:54cameras are a version of an ALPR camera.

5:45:57Sulfurino knew what fleet cameras were

5:45:59when he stated this falsity then and uh

5:46:02just a few minutes ago when he was

5:46:04presenting here. After presenting his

5:46:07slide, Sulfurino went on to say, quote,

5:46:09"We've had this technology in our area

5:46:10for over 25 years. I had it on my

5:46:13vehicle." He knew RPD had well over 100

5:46:17ALPR cameras total in their inventory.

5:46:19Chief Sulfurino lied to you and the

5:46:22people of Reno with a straight face in

5:46:25stating that he only had 29, then made

5:46:28the conscious decision to stand here and

5:46:30downplay and misrepresent the

5:46:32capabilities of RPD's ALPR cameras.

5:46:35Sulfurino could have chosen to talk

5:46:37about this technology factually with

5:46:39integrity. Instead, he talked about

5:46:42ALPRs in a way that straddles the line

5:46:44between painting the picture he wants

5:46:46and just enough of the truth where he

5:46:48can't easily get in trouble. That's some

5:46:51incredible political maneuvering and not

5:46:53a good trait in a police chief that was

5:46:55appointed to rebuild the trust the last

5:46:57police chief destroyed. Sulfurino also

5:47:00stated, "Identifying and dealing with

5:47:02misuse is important, then swears RPD's

5:47:05technology is not being misused." Well,

5:47:07how would the public know? This axon

5:47:10contract that you're considering places

5:47:12auditing control in the hands of RPD

5:47:14itself. Surely RPD will announce when

5:47:17they've identified misuse, investigate

5:47:19themselves truthfully, and be honest

5:47:21when they've done something wrong. Well,

5:47:23we know that's not likely to happen. And

5:47:25when the public uses their tool of

5:47:27accountability, public records requests,

5:47:29will we be able to identify abuse of

5:47:31ALPR systems? We know that's not likely

5:47:34either. The public has been repeatedly

5:47:37denied information about ALPRs in

5:47:39previous public records requests.

5:47:41Lastly, Sulfurino suggested we should

5:47:43not consider ALPR abuse seen in other

5:47:45police departments around the country.

5:47:47When assessing the risk of ALPRs, why

5:47:50can't we learn lessons from other

5:47:51places? Sulfurino touted a whopping four

5:47:54crimes in September and now an

5:47:56additional four crimes with this

5:47:57presentation today. Um, solved with the

5:47:59assistance of surveillance technology as

5:48:01proof that this technology is justified.

5:48:03But after seeing the issues with this

5:48:05tech elsewhere, there are way too many

5:48:07unanswered questions here. Do we know

5:48:09the misidentification rate of RPD's

5:48:11ALPRs? Do we know whether there have

5:48:13been any erroneous stops or wrongful

5:48:15arrests made by RPD due to this

5:48:17misidentification of plates? And do we

5:48:20know whether the data RPD collects on

5:48:22innocent people's locations is funneled

5:48:24to ICE through a

5:48:30You work for us.

5:48:36>> Harrison Emery followed by Daniel

5:48:38Jenkins followed by Karen Bolandorf.

5:48:43Good afternoon, Mayor and members of

5:48:45city council. My name is Harrison Emery

5:48:47and we'll be continuing from the last

5:48:48commenter. To start with, we will look

5:48:51at the flock transparency portal that

5:48:52has been used to defend the use of these

5:48:54ALPR systems so far in Reno. We were all

5:48:57here when you defended these systems

5:48:59back before Flock became a bad partner.

5:49:02By which you mean they attracted too

5:49:03much bad PR. We can use the Flock

5:49:06transparency portal as a way to assess

5:49:08the use of these systems in Reno, even

5:49:11with a different vendor. The police plan

5:49:13to use the technology the same way

5:49:15regardless of the vendor. It is still an

5:49:17ALPR and an ALPR network. And many of

5:49:21the claims are the same between the

5:49:22vendors. No unauthorized sharing. You

5:49:25own the data and you control the data.

5:49:27Both the Flock and Axon websites agree

5:49:30on this. This means that all the data

5:49:32contained on the site is accurate to the

5:49:34policies of the Reno Police Department

5:49:36as they currently are. Those policies

5:49:38will not change just because the vendor

5:49:40has changed. So, we will walk through

5:49:42the claims that matter. The [snorts]

5:49:44portal claims that it is a myth that our

5:49:46data is fed into a national database.

5:49:49The same portal has a list of all the

5:49:51agencies we share data with. uh there

5:49:54are over 500 organizations in that list

5:49:57and that is what this map is showing. Uh

5:50:00uh the map you're seeing is missing 150

5:50:02of those 500 data points. Personally, I

5:50:06feel comfortable calling this a

5:50:07nationwide database. The flock

5:50:09transparency portal also claims that

5:50:11there were approximately 440,000 unique

5:50:14plate reads over the past 30 days. As

5:50:17this is the flock dashboard, this would

5:50:19only include flock cameras or only 29 of

5:50:22the 163 ALPRs present within the city.

5:50:26Our population is less than 300,000 and

5:50:29fewer than that many drive.

5:50:31Additionally, there were over 9,000 hot

5:50:34list hits in the past 30 days and 750

5:50:37searches of the flock system in the last

5:50:3930 days. It is unclear how many of those

5:50:42searches resulted in action, but based

5:50:45on the chief reported numbers, we can

5:50:47credit two homicides and two hit and

5:50:49runs to that technology over the year.

5:50:52As this statement was in September, that

5:50:54is 9 months worth of surveillance. If we

5:50:57assume the average stats are roughly

5:50:59similar monthtomonth, then we would

5:51:01expect over 4,500 searches and 3.6 6

5:51:05million plate reads to result in four

5:51:08unresolved violent crimes. Do not pass

5:51:11this agenda item today. Do not saddle

5:51:14the city with another seven years of

5:51:16technology that we've been telling you

5:51:18for over a year that we do not want.

5:51:20Please take some time in exploring other

5:51:22options before committing an entire

5:51:24year's worth of the fire department's

5:51:27wages and benefits to a single vendor

5:51:29for a single department. Thank you.

5:51:34Daniel Jenkins, followed by Kurin

5:51:37Bolandorf, followed by Rachel Foot.

5:51:44Good morning, mayor, uh, members of city

5:51:46council. Before I dig in, there is one

5:51:49thing that stood out in what Chief

5:51:51Selfrino said that I wanted to

5:51:52highlight. He mentioned that policing a

5:51:55sad issue since the beginning. Uh, I

5:51:57know that this isn't history in Nevada,

5:51:59but as somebody that grew up in Georgia,

5:52:02I'd like to remind him that that's

5:52:03because they started as slave patrols.

5:52:06So, I'm here with the Flockoff

5:52:08Coalition. I'm the last comment in our

5:52:10series, and I'm talking about agenda

5:52:12item C1 regarding the Axon contract. To

5:52:16start, I have an equity stake in one of

5:52:18the companies listed on this contract. I

5:52:21would personally benefit if you signed

5:52:23it today.

5:52:25I am in opposition to this contract,

5:52:27though, even though I had to fill up my

5:52:29gas tank to get here. The ask today is

5:52:32simple. Don't accept this contract

5:52:34today. Let the next city council decide

5:52:36if they want to risk $44 million on this

5:52:39and let the voters tell you their

5:52:41thoughts through this election.

5:52:43We all know this election is a

5:52:45referendum. Data centers, surveillance,

5:52:48immigrant rights, affordability,

5:52:50all of that is on the table. And to

5:52:54quote the famous socialist radical Mitch

5:52:56McConnell, I think we need to respect

5:52:59the wishes of the voters.

5:53:01Voting on this today rejects the wishes

5:53:03of the voters that are at the polls

5:53:05right now.

5:53:07I want to offer one last chance to do

5:53:08the thing that we asked for and that you

5:53:10all agreed to.

5:53:12I want to have a conversation on this

5:53:14that isn't just three minutes of

5:53:17monologuing.

5:53:18I've been hearing so much about folks

5:53:20who are ready and willing to have

5:53:22conversations like this. So, I would

5:53:23love to start doing that.

5:53:26There are really two critical questions

5:53:28that until these are answered clearly,

5:53:31there is no way that you should

5:53:34reasonably vote on this. The first, as

5:53:38uh Alex mentioned,

5:53:40that early termination clause in the

5:53:43contract, we need to know if this is all

5:53:45or nothing. if that discount is impacted

5:53:49if the order is modified.

5:53:52And we need to know if we could even

5:53:54reasonably comply with that 30-day

5:53:56return policy. If that's something that

5:53:59we are not equipped to rip all of that

5:54:01gear out and send it back to Amazon, we

5:54:03should be operating under the assumption

5:54:04that any cancellation will result in

5:54:06full MSRP.

5:54:09The second question, that's

5:54:11severability. you know, are each of

5:54:14these components of this contract

5:54:16severable? Do we jeopardize the entire

5:54:18discount if we were to remove the ALPRs

5:54:21from this contract?

5:54:24By placing all of this equipment,

5:54:26basically the nerve center of our entire

5:54:28police department into a single

5:54:29contract. If this is all or nothing,

5:54:32this contract holds the police

5:54:34department and the city hostage.

5:54:37I strongly urge you to continue on this

5:54:41matter. Do not let this be the final act

5:54:44of the legacy of this city council.

5:54:48Take the time read the

5:54:57Kurin Bolandorf followed by Rachel Foot

5:55:00followed by Justin Haggi.

5:55:07My name is Karen and I am a citizen of

5:55:10Ward 3. And before I get started, I do

5:55:12just want to say um before I get into

5:55:14it, um that this master service

5:55:16agreement needs to be really really

5:55:19looked at because according to the

5:55:21police department's presentation,

5:55:23there's a lot of contradictions in that

5:55:25master service agreement. Okay. Um I'm

5:55:28extremely in strong opposition for item

5:55:30C1. If Reno were to approve this aborant

5:55:34contract with Axon, instead of Reno

5:55:36being called the biggest little city in

5:55:37the world, our new motto would become

5:55:39the biggest little mass surveillance

5:55:40city in the world. There are so many

5:55:43incredibly illegal, ethically

5:55:45questionable, and downright bloated

5:55:47waste of resources in the Axon contract

5:55:50currently proposed that it's not even

5:55:52possible to address it all in just one

5:55:54public comment. One person, three

5:55:56minutes. We need more. This contract

5:55:58does not improve policing in Reno. It

5:56:00gives the police full-blown access and

5:56:02permission to infringe on every

5:56:03citizen's ci civil liberties. Not to

5:56:06mention, there is no meaningful

5:56:07transparency or true accountability for

5:56:09real Reno law enforcement. It is my

5:56:12understanding that the Reno police will

5:56:14audit themselves when it comes to

5:56:15ensuring that AI assisted surveillance

5:56:17will be done in a careful way. Um,

5:56:19that's like letting bears be in charge

5:56:22of a honey store. Absolutely not. Even

5:56:25with that laughable policy, let's just

5:56:27look at the technology itself. The

5:56:29contract is going to have ALPRs

5:56:31installed in every police vehicle. Are

5:56:33you kidding? In the AI assisted

5:56:36recognition and report compiling. Have

5:56:38we lost our minds? Is the city prepared

5:56:40to also shell out millions of more

5:56:42dollars from all the civil lawsuits to

5:56:44come when the police misidentified

5:56:47people and jail them? I have no faith

5:56:49that the Reno Police Department will

5:56:50receive enough training to keep this

5:56:52from happening as we've already seen it

5:56:54all over the country that innocent

5:56:55people have had their lives upended

5:56:57because the police put their faith in a

5:56:59powerful faulty technology that they

5:57:01don't even understand.

5:57:03Why are we deploying technology invasive

5:57:05technology that is so flawed? It seems

5:57:07like the only argument the city and the

5:57:09police department have is, well, the

5:57:11good outweighs the bad. But does it

5:57:12really though? Does every citizen

5:57:14deserve to be falsely accused are

5:57:16predestined to be a suspicious person at

5:57:18all times?

5:57:20Instead of communitydriven policing,

5:57:23this contract will completely put the

5:57:25Reno department at odds with its own

5:57:27community. Is that what we want? Do we

5:57:30want gross overreach that hurts its

5:57:31citizens and takes away community money

5:57:33that could be used elsewhere? We need

5:57:35this 22 million for future wildfires and

5:57:38natural disaster mitigation. Reno was

5:57:40literally on fire just a few months ago.

5:57:44I looked through the master service

5:57:46agreement and no businessminded person

5:57:48would agree to these terms. What is

5:57:50outlined in the master service agreement

5:57:52contradicts what the department just

5:57:54presented. I urge the city council to

5:57:56actually look through it and to

5:57:58understand the betrayal of rights they

5:58:00are signing our citizens and victims of

5:58:02crime up for. No mass surveillance

5:58:06surveillance of uh surveillance of

5:58:08private cities citizens. No ALPRs. No,

5:58:20Rachel Foot followed by Justin Haggihi

5:58:23followed by Bla1 Jorgensson.

5:58:28Hello, my name is Rachel Foot and I will

5:58:30be reading this letter from Selen Laroo

5:58:32Hatch, Assembly Member uh district

5:58:34number 25.

5:58:36To my esteemed esteemed colleagues in

5:58:39government service, I'm writing today to

5:58:40express my deep concern over the

5:58:42proposed contract you are considering

5:58:44with Axon Enterprise Incorporated, most

5:58:46especially the portion of the contract

5:58:48pertaining to automated license plate

5:58:49readers. As I have expressed publicly

5:58:51and personally to many of you, I have

5:58:53deep concerns about the use of tech this

5:58:55technology in our community. These

5:58:57include these include concerns ranging

5:58:59from violations of our most fundamental

5:59:01rights and abuses and misuses of the

5:59:03system to mistakes leading to false

5:59:05arrests across the country. In the

5:59:07United States of America, we have

5:59:08constitutional protections against

5:59:10unreasonable searches and seizures, the

5:59:12right to privacy, and the freedom of

5:59:14movement. ALPRs represent a threat to

5:59:16all of these basic rights. You may view

5:59:18them as just a few cameras, but with

5:59:20over 200 flock and axon cameras in the

5:59:22Reno Sparks area alone, we are quickly

5:59:24creating a system of mass surveillance

5:59:26of our people. These cameras are

5:59:28creating a profile of the movements of

5:59:29our citizens and they are always

5:59:31watching. A malicious actor could easily

5:59:33use this system to track everything

5:59:35about a p a person, where they live,

5:59:37what malicious actor could easily use

5:59:39the sorry where they work, where they

5:59:42worship, what protests they visit, and

5:59:44the groups with whom they choose to

5:59:45associate. These technologies can be and

5:59:48have been used to punish women seeking

5:59:49reproductive health care and detain

5:59:51immigrants as they try to live their

5:59:53lives. Moreover, we have seen the

5:59:55widespread abuses of this technology

5:59:56across the country. These misuses

5:59:58include stalking ex partners and

6:00:00romantic interests, harass harassing

6:00:02citizens who are critical of the

6:00:04development or local government

6:00:06department or local government, giving

6:00:07unapproved access to of the database to

6:00:09fund federal immigration officers and

6:00:11more including here in Wo County. This

6:00:14is on top of the numerous cases in which

6:00:16individuals were wrongly accused and

6:00:18even jailed based on entirely inaccurate

6:00:20information from AI AI powered ALPRs.

6:00:22These incidents are not simply mistakes.

6:00:25They have caused real harm to innocent

6:00:27members of the public, including

6:00:28children, who have been handcuffed and

6:00:30forced to lay on the ground at gunpoint

6:00:31for no other reason than the computer

6:00:33misread a family member's license plate.

6:00:35I understand the arguments you have

6:00:37heard about the benefits of this

6:00:38technology for our community safety. You

6:00:40may feel that you must approve this

6:00:41request in the interest of solving crime

6:00:43or protecting our citizens, but that's a

6:00:45false choice. We can have a safe

6:00:47community guarded by diligent officers

6:00:49who are engaging in true community

6:00:50policing. TR crime has been trending

6:00:53downward long before you or anyone else

6:00:54started installing ALPRs. We can enjoy a

6:00:57safe, vibrant community without giving

6:00:58up our basic freedoms. Don't just take

6:01:00my word for it. It was Benjamin Franklin

6:01:02himself who said, "Those who would give

6:01:04up essential liberty to purchase a

6:01:05little temporary safety deserve neither

6:01:08liberty nor safety. Forcing our citizens

6:01:10to live under the system of mass

6:01:12surveillance will not make us safer and

6:01:14more importantly, it enjoys the very

6:01:15destroys the very liberties that make

6:01:17the United States such an incredible

6:01:18place to live. I know I'm not the only

6:01:20community member reaching out on this

6:01:22issue. There is but a huge outcry from

6:01:24our citizenry about this issue and I'm

6:01:27sure you are facing several hours of

6:01:28public comment on this agenda item. Our

6:01:30people do not want to be spied on and

6:01:32there is no amount of

6:01:47Thank you.

6:01:50>> Thank you, Rachel.

6:01:50>> Thank you so much,

6:01:52>> Justin Hagi, followed by Bla1

6:01:54Jorgensson, followed by Chelsea G via

6:01:56Zoom.

6:01:58>> Good afternoon, Mr. Vice Mayor, Madame

6:02:00Manager, and members of the council. I

6:02:03hope you're having as much fun as I am

6:02:04today. My name is Justin and I'm here to

6:02:06talk about C1, the Electronic Frontier

6:02:09Foundation, and the American Civil

6:02:10Liberties Union have it right. the

6:02:13public and you should trust them because

6:02:15you don't want to be on their bad side.

6:02:18The public doesn't just want to see an

6:02:20end to flock. We don't want to see

6:02:22ambient surveillance from interconnected

6:02:24automated license plate readers, period.

6:02:27And I want to bring up an example that

6:02:29was originally brought up by Chief

6:02:30Sulfurino about automated traffic

6:02:32enforcement from speed cameras and red

6:02:34light cameras. Those technologies have a

6:02:36well- definfined specific mission and

6:02:39clear guard rails. If you're not

6:02:40speeding, it doesn't take a picture. If

6:02:42you're not running a red light, it

6:02:43doesn't take a picture. Yet, those

6:02:45technologies are banned in Nevada.

6:02:48This technology is an indiscriminate

6:02:51open-ended interconnected surveillance

6:02:53network with a nebulous public safety

6:02:55outcome that is permitted to exist. And

6:02:59there's a clear juxtaposition of values

6:03:00here in this state that we would allow

6:03:02that and that you would purchase such a

6:03:05system.

6:03:06And I say Nebula safe public safety

6:03:08outcome because as we heard earlier

6:03:10despite this technology being helpful in

6:03:12certain cases and I'm grateful that

6:03:14those victims have closure. It is there

6:03:18have been 200 over 200,000 calls for

6:03:20service. You know we saw between six and

6:03:2310 cases. There are 500,000 people who

6:03:25live here as people have talked about.

6:03:27There's not there's no measurable way to

6:03:30come up with a return on investment for

6:03:32this technology at scale. and

6:03:36the technology shouldn't be allowed to

6:03:37proceed, but should it go ahead, the

6:03:39city hasn't really demonstrated it'll be

6:03:41used responsibly and transparently.

6:03:43There's, as I said, no objective measure

6:03:45proposed to figure out the return on

6:03:47investment in reducing crime or

6:03:48increasing resolution rates. How do we

6:03:51attribute those things to outpost

6:03:53cameras or to fleet cameras that are

6:03:54ALPRs? And finally, while I'm grateful

6:03:57to see a technology policy, that

6:03:59technology policy is brand new. And that

6:04:02means that there's already an existing

6:04:03culture of not having that policy and

6:04:06people are already using this technology

6:04:08as we've heard multiple times. And I'm

6:04:10skeptical that a good culture exists.

6:04:13And I would challenge the council to

6:04:17let to through its city manager and the

6:04:19chief of police figure out a way to

6:04:23prove that that policy is being followed

6:04:25and create a feedback loop so that we

6:04:27know that it is being followed. I've

6:04:29been a technologist for 10 years and I

6:04:31can tell you that the policies that are

6:04:34come up with in organizations do not

6:04:36match what the technology users are

6:04:39doing on a day-to-day basis. And that

6:04:42clear and transparent feedback loop is

6:04:45critical to making sure that it's

6:04:46successful. Excuse me. Thank you.

6:04:51>> Bla1 Jorgensson followed by Chelsea G

6:04:54via Zoom followed by Danielle Valancort.

6:04:59Hello everybody.

6:05:01Uh, so I was excited to hear the city

6:05:03was dropping the contract with uh with

6:05:05Flock. Unfortunately, my excitement was

6:05:07shortlived. Um, when did we grow a

6:05:10desire to become a surveillance state? I

6:05:12say not in my Nevada. Flock was a bad

6:05:14partner. We cannot exchange one bad

6:05:16partner for another. Wo county currently

6:05:18has more ALPR cameras per capita than

6:05:21Clark County. about 36 cameras per

6:05:23100,000 in WA in Wo and about eight

6:05:26cameras per 100,000 in Clark considering

6:05:29uh our violent crime rates are lower 4.6

6:05:32per thousand people in Wo versus 5.7 per

6:05:36100,000 in Clark County um

6:05:38[clears throat] uh our and our crime

6:05:40rates are dropping. So why do we need

6:05:42these systems? I want to make it clear

6:05:44that I do not have a problem with

6:05:46cameras in general. In fact, I have

6:05:48cameras at my home. CCTV is important

6:05:50but also generally requires proper court

6:05:52approval for release. We don't need

6:05:54these cameras, the AI cameras, nor do we

6:05:57uh want them. So what is the problem

6:06:00here? It's not the cameras, it's not the

6:06:02hardware, it's not the LEOs, it's the AI

6:06:04and the big tech corporation behind it.

6:06:06People use AI to write emails. Grade

6:06:09school students use it to do their

6:06:10homework. Police need to be held to a

6:06:12higher standard. This $21 million

6:06:14contract can write police reports as

6:06:16well as automate other police duties.

6:06:18With how inaccurate we have seen AI be,

6:06:21how can we trust it to automate such

6:06:23[clears throat] sensitive materials? AI

6:06:25can't correctly identify how many Rs are

6:06:27in the word strawberry. Also, it cannot

6:06:30know that 3/8 is bigger than 516 or a

6:06:33more recent example of Mr. Jason

6:06:35Killeran. So, how can we trust these AI

6:06:38systems in our justice system? We heard

6:06:40today that the city owns the data, but

6:06:42how do we trust the corporation? There

6:06:44isn't much stopping the corporation from

6:06:46selling our data to the highest bidder,

6:06:47even if we have laws that say otherwise.

6:06:50These companies have shown that they

6:06:51won't be held accountable to our wishes

6:06:52or our legislation. They know they can

6:06:55get away with it because nobody is

6:06:56stopping them. Uh these companies

6:06:58consider a hundred,000 or even a hundred

6:07:00million fine a drop in the bucket. In

6:07:02fact, they consider it a cost of doing

6:07:04business. I have lived here my entire

6:07:06life and one thing I know about Neadans

6:07:08is we are generally keep to our own

6:07:09business. We have a don't bother me and

6:07:11I won't bother you attitude. These

6:07:13cameras bother me and they bother many

6:07:15other people here today. Uh they build a

6:07:18database that extremely easy to access.

6:07:20They invade our data. They invade our

6:07:22privacy. Um and also half the cars I see

6:07:25in this town don't have a plate. So what

6:07:27are we tracking?

6:07:29Neadans um like our privacy. Do the

6:07:33Nevada thing. Reject Axon. Reject ALPRs.

6:07:36Don't let another AI surveillance

6:07:37company get into our business where they

6:07:39don't belong. Thank you.

6:07:43>> Chelsea G via Zoom, followed by Danielle

6:07:46Valancort, followed by Lisa Hill via

6:07:48Zoom.

6:07:50>> Hi, my name is Chelsea and I'm a

6:07:52resident of Ward 4.

6:07:54um the fact that this topic since it's

6:07:58such a hot topic, it hasn't been given

6:08:01its own specific special meeting for it.

6:08:03This is a slap in the face to concerned

6:08:05residents. It should not have been

6:08:07tacked on to a regular city agenda and

6:08:10y'all know that because of previous

6:08:12comments that we have submitted to y'all

6:08:15on this topic. Um, [clears throat] most

6:08:18notably with RPD complaining about a

6:08:21problem with retaining members who are

6:08:24hired either through the candidate

6:08:26program or months after that. People do

6:08:30not leave good work environments. They

6:08:33do not leave good managers. They do not

6:08:36leave good co-workers. They leave toxic

6:08:40work environments. They leave toxic

6:08:43managers. They leave toxic co-workers.

6:08:46So, what is wrong with RPD's internal

6:08:49atmosphere that is causing a loss of

6:08:52staff? They can complain all they want

6:08:55that they're not having enough staff

6:08:56members be retained, but they have a

6:08:58problem and they're not willing to admit

6:09:00it. How many other issues have they been

6:09:03sitting on with what previous behaviors

6:09:07of staff members that also the city

6:09:09council knows and is also sitting on to

6:09:12keep quiet?

6:09:14Um I have made mention of this in the

6:09:16past but to reduce crime you need to

6:09:18invest in the community education things

6:09:21for after school activities that are

6:09:23free and available for everyone. Most

6:09:27interestingly enough, the Department of

6:09:30Sentencing Policy here in the state of

6:09:32Nevada in 2022,

6:09:34June of 2022, issued a white paper

6:09:37titled, "What really lowers crime?" And

6:09:40on the second page, it explicitly

6:09:43states, "Employment and stable income

6:09:46prevent crime." And yet here we have

6:09:50reactive policy by RPD claiming we can

6:09:53keep our streets safe instead of having

6:09:56preventative policy to keep people in

6:10:01jobs to allow them to have an income to

6:10:04give them a place of stable living. I

6:10:07have heard many candidates complain of

6:10:09we're going to clean up downtown. How

6:10:11many years have you been on the city

6:10:13council and done nothing? There's

6:10:16another member for uh candidate who

6:10:18recently was exposed in an investigative

6:10:21report for having two different women go

6:10:25on file for restraining orders against

6:10:27him because he stalked them at their

6:10:30homes and he left items on their

6:10:32doorstep. And we have the RPD coming up

6:10:36and giving domestic violence as examples

6:10:38of ways that this technology can be

6:10:41effective. Absolutely not. That is

6:10:44insane.

6:10:47Y'all are not doing your homework. You

6:10:49are bending over believing that RPD is

6:10:51being truthful when historically they

6:10:53have not been. Thank you.

6:10:57>> Danielle Valancort, followed by Lisa

6:10:59Hill via Zoom, followed by Anna Mihi.

6:11:06Thank you for having us here today. Um,

6:11:08as we know, the fourth amendment

6:11:09prohibits unreasonable search and

6:11:11seizures unless how uh law enforcement

6:11:13obtains a warrant that is supported by

6:11:15probable cause and describes in detail

6:11:17the places to be searched and persons to

6:11:19be seized. If some of you did not also

6:11:21know, there is a third-party doctrine

6:11:24stating that ini individuals have no

6:11:26reasonable expectation of privacy under

6:11:28the fourth amendment in information

6:11:29voluntarily shared with third parties

6:11:31such as businesses like banks, phone

6:11:34companies, cloud providers, Flock or

6:11:36other automated license plate reader

6:11:38providers. With this in mind, it is

6:11:41known that ALPR providers Flock and Axon

6:11:44have become two of the most criticized

6:11:46technologies in policing. Many of these

6:11:49concerns include who can search the data

6:11:52and for what purpose, how long it is

6:11:53kept, whether an officer has to give a

6:11:55reason to search, what happens when a

6:11:57misread plate triggers a stop, and

6:11:59whether anyone is checking any of it.

6:12:02Several of these concerns rest on

6:12:04documented events rather than

6:12:05speculation. We all know that agencies

6:12:08have used ALPR tools for years. Multiple

6:12:11companies sought comparable systems and

6:12:13by 2020 roughly 65% of the municipal

6:12:16departments with 100 or more sworn

6:12:18officers reported using ALPRs of some

6:12:21kind. With [snorts] this information and

6:12:24other data collected, we know that the

6:12:26evidence on ALPR effectiveness is not

6:12:29where it needs to be. There is limited

6:12:32research to prove that it works as well

6:12:34as the vendors claim. Most of what has

6:12:36been tested does not match what agencies

6:12:38are deploying right now per the National

6:12:41Policing Institute.

6:12:43Now, [snorts] the governance record is a

6:12:44different matter. It is specific,

6:12:46documented, and mostly about the

6:12:48decisions agencies make or fail to make,

6:12:51how long to keep the data for, who to

6:12:53share it with, whether an inquiry

6:12:55requires a reason. This is a little

6:12:57different, whether an officer confirms a

6:12:58hit before drawing a weapon, and whether

6:13:00anyone checked.

6:13:03These distinctions are why swooping or

6:13:06sorry swapping vendors flock versus Axon

6:13:10resolves less than it appears to. Major

6:13:12[snorts] cities have ended ALPR

6:13:14contracts and competitor providers have

6:13:16been positioning for that business

6:13:18because data is key now. Data is the new

6:13:20oil. Correct. But what about retention,

6:13:23sharing, verification, and oversight?

6:13:25That responsibility must be handed to

6:13:28the agency level, not the thirdparty

6:13:29vendor that uses a third-party doctrine

6:13:32on selling information.

6:13:34The [snorts] National Policing Institute

6:13:36is a trusted independent research and

6:13:38training organization dedicated to

6:13:39helping law enforcement agencies solving

6:13:41complex uh challenges through practical

6:13:45evidence-based solutions and

6:13:46forward-inking strategies. They will

6:13:48have more information for you if you'd

6:13:50like to look into that a little bit more

6:13:51based off of your decision from today.

6:13:53Um, the least thing that I'm going to

6:13:55ask is to please put this on pause so

6:13:57you guys can actually talk about it and

6:13:59do your due diligence as you're expected

6:14:02to. Thank you.

6:14:06Lisa Hill via Zoom followed by Anna Mihi

6:14:08followed by Preston Matson.

6:14:17Lisa, can you unmute?

6:14:25Okay, we'll come back to you. Anna Mihi

6:14:42start.

6:14:45>> Okay. Hi, my name is Anna Mihi. Um,

6:14:50okay. So, couple of questions for you

6:14:52guys is do you fully understand the

6:14:54police chief's motivation in wanting

6:14:56this technology?

6:14:58It seems like his statements are kind of

6:15:00a little bit all over the place. Um,

6:15:03seems like he wants the ease and

6:15:04efficiency of this technology, but it

6:15:06seems really likely that you're going to

6:15:08get officers who then become dependent

6:15:10on the AI writing their reports. And

6:15:12it's really easy to just click a button

6:15:14that says done and not check it. And

6:15:16that's kind of just heading straight

6:15:18toward a lawsuit. Um, some of the other

6:15:21stuff is that if you get this AI

6:15:24technology, then what happens to all the

6:15:26attention that should have gone to

6:15:27solving his staffing and staff retention

6:15:30problems that the last person just

6:15:32brought up? Um, and then the other

6:15:34question is, do you really understand

6:15:36Axon's motivation for wanting to push

6:15:39this technology, the any government, you

6:15:42know, help they're getting in that? The

6:15:43fact that somebody mentioned they might

6:15:45be funding genocide in other countries.

6:15:48Um, they make tasers. I interviewed a

6:15:51couple of my friends, a couple of my my

6:15:53black friends. Do you trust the body

6:15:56cams? And they said, "No, a lot of times

6:15:58the footage isn't even reachable." So,

6:15:59they're already losing trust with this

6:16:01company. Um, and that was interestingly

6:16:04a big part of his statement of repeating

6:16:06this phrase of it's a trusted vendor.

6:16:08It's a trusted vendor. We trust it. Um,

6:16:12I'm not sure if we do.

6:16:14I'm not sure if Axon is a trusted vendor

6:16:17and all those regulations that seem nice

6:16:19on paper are actually going to be a

6:16:21reality if like the right public records

6:16:25can actually be accessed. Um

6:16:30I had one more point. I'm not sure if I

6:16:32remember it.

6:16:33Oh yeah. Um, my last question was, how

6:16:36comfortable are you seating city control

6:16:39to all of these outside corporations,

6:16:42big powerful corporations, AI? Like, do

6:16:45you really think you maintain control of

6:16:47the city if we're so locked in to all of

6:16:51this technology?

6:16:53And that was pretty much it.

6:16:56Thank you.

6:17:00>> Preston Matson, followed by Lisa Hill

6:17:02via Zoom, followed by Matthew Casa via

6:17:04Zoom.

6:17:08>> Hey guys, how's it going?

6:17:12So, my name is Preston Matson. Uh, I was

6:17:14born and raised here in Nevada and, uh,

6:17:16I'm also an enrolled member of the

6:17:17Premier League PY tribe. I'm here today

6:17:19speaking alongside Northern Nevada DSA

6:17:21and the other action groups. Um, they're

6:17:23actually the ones who let me know about

6:17:24this vote a few days ago, so I want to

6:17:26make sure they get their flowers to get

6:17:27us out of here. So, uh, and I'm here

6:17:30speaking uh, in opposition to item C1.

6:17:34So, this contract includes two types of

6:17:36license plate readers, 136 mounted on

6:17:38police cars and can build a movement

6:17:40history and 50 solar powered Axon

6:17:43outpost cameras that combine plate

6:17:45reading, live video, and vehicle

6:17:48recognition and can be mounted anywhere.

6:17:50You've heard from us many times before

6:17:51about RPD's flock cameras, and we've

6:17:53been very clear that we do not want a

6:17:55new ALPR contract with any company.

6:17:58Ending Flock was the right move, but

6:18:00replacing with Axon just changes the

6:18:02logo on the camera.

6:18:05These cameras log every car that passes

6:18:07by, and overwhelmingly people suspected

6:18:09of doing nothing, and the people with

6:18:11access to that data continue to misuse

6:18:14it time and time again.

6:18:17This year alone, a Savannah officer was

6:18:19fired for giving her login to her

6:18:20husband, an ICE federal agent who used

6:18:22it to run nearly 10,000 license plate

6:18:24reader searches across six states

6:18:26despite a local policy barring that kind

6:18:28of data sharing. In Indianapolis, five

6:18:30officers were criminally charged for

6:18:32misusing the city's license plate

6:18:33readers, and one is accused of using

6:18:35that play data to track his ex-wife and

6:18:37other women. In Creve Court, Illinois,

6:18:39the former police chief resigned in his

6:18:41under state investigation for allegedly

6:18:43using the town's license plate cameras

6:18:45to track his ex-wife. None of this

6:18:47happens without a network of cameras

6:18:48that watch where we drive and what we

6:18:50do.

6:18:52I know upon hearing this that we're

6:18:54going to hear that these are just a few

6:18:55bad apples, [snorts] but I think what we

6:18:56forget is that the rest of the quote

6:18:58goes that a few bad apples spoil the

6:19:01barrel. These are not isolated

6:19:03incidents. This is what happens when

6:19:05hundreds of people hold a tool that can

6:19:06track anyone and the only check is an

6:19:08audit after the harm is already done.

6:19:13Reno's proposed policy audits plate

6:19:15readers twice a year. However, Savannah

6:19:18had a policy similar to that, and that

6:19:20didn't stop a local officer and a

6:19:21federal agent from searching people's

6:19:23movements across six states, which is

6:19:25exactly the kind of unchecked government

6:19:26surveillance the Fourth Amendment was

6:19:28written to protect. Flocker Axon is the

6:19:31same technology, mass suspicionless,

6:19:34mass suspicionless tracking in the hands

6:19:36of people who had shown time and time

6:19:37again that they will misuse it. So, my

6:19:40speech did look a little bit different

6:19:41today in terms of asking for a

6:19:43continuence as well, but um I also work

6:19:47in the tech field and I come from a

6:19:49pretty corporate background. I know I

6:19:50probably don't look like it, but uh

6:19:52after seeing uh the presentation with

6:19:55the buzzwords, my mind immediately knew

6:19:57to look for the data to make a

6:19:58data-driven decision. And I think I

6:20:01didn't see any of that. I mean, I seen

6:20:04that there were six victims who were

6:20:05helped because of ALPRs that they shown,

6:20:07but honestly, outside of that, I don't

6:20:09know what the continuence would be for I

6:20:12I don't I really don't know what. So, my

6:20:14So, my ask here is to please vote no.

6:20:16Thank you.

6:20:18>> Lisa Hill via Zoom, followed by Adrien

6:20:21Lowry, followed by Mel Stites via Zoom.

6:20:26>> Lisa Hill, for the record, can you hear

6:20:28me?

6:20:29>> Yes, we can.

6:20:30>> Okay, thank you. I'm back. I had many

6:20:33questions coming into today's meeting

6:20:35having to do with this agenda item,

6:20:37having to do with the specific problem

6:20:40that you were trying to solve, the

6:20:42evidence that this would solve the

6:20:45problem, what alternatives would be

6:20:47considered, the costs and the benefits,

6:20:50and how you would hear and respond to

6:20:52the community's concerns. I was also

6:20:55concerned about civil rights protections

6:20:58being baked into the approval process

6:21:00and not added later. And then specific

6:21:03questions about limits on data retention

6:21:06and sharing, warrants required for data

6:21:09use, limits on non-inforcement uses,

6:21:12clear consequences for misuse, public

6:21:14and press access under the open records

6:21:17laws with use of non-disclosure

6:21:20agreements and so on. I was also

6:21:22concerned about independent oversight

6:21:24and information on who would be

6:21:26monitoring compliance on an ongoing

6:21:29basis and what happens when these

6:21:31standards are violated. Violations need

6:21:34public reporting and real consequences.

6:21:36And I was also concerned about uh vendor

6:21:39records and ethics. Um, after hearing

6:21:42all the testimony today and listening to

6:21:45the public comment, I think it's pretty

6:21:47clear that we need to extend the

6:21:49discussion on this topic. Trust is built

6:21:52by addressing the community's concerns

6:21:54before the vote, not afterwards. Um,

6:21:57there's been so many issues and I have

6:21:59so many more questions about the use of

6:22:01this technology in our community and I

6:22:04believe that meaningful governance um,

6:22:07addresses community concerns in a

6:22:09thoughtful way.

6:22:11and addresses accountability and

6:22:14monitoring not by the company or not by

6:22:16the police department but independent

6:22:18accountability and monitoring for the

6:22:20approval process. So I'm asking and I

6:22:23agree with the sentiment that we need to

6:22:25continue this conversation and include

6:22:28[snorts] community standards. I also

6:22:30find it fascinating that not all public

6:22:33commenters are confined to the three

6:22:36minute rule and some people are cut off

6:22:38and some people are allowed to talk

6:22:40longer. So if you have a rule on three

6:22:42minutes, enforce it for everybody and

6:22:44not just selectively. Thank you for

6:22:46listening.

6:22:50>> Adrien Lowry followed by Mel Stites via

6:22:52Zoom followed by Matthew Casa via Zoom.

6:22:58>> Hello. Uh my name is Adrien Lowry. I'm

6:23:00here to speak in opposition to

6:23:03um an opposition to this item and any

6:23:08any contract that includes ALPRs.

6:23:11Um we have seen that the Supreme Court

6:23:14whenever they come to this uh discussion

6:23:17of you know is the government allowed to

6:23:21uh surveil somebody for an extended

6:23:23amount of time without any evidence of

6:23:25wrongdoing or any warrant to justify it.

6:23:29They say that no that is not a

6:23:31constitutional uh use of surveillance.

6:23:34Um, and that's what we're talking about

6:23:37with ALPR. This is a technology that

6:23:40records everybody as if they are a

6:23:43criminal, puts their information to a

6:23:45database. I do not think it's a criminal

6:23:49act to live in Reno or to visit Reno.

6:23:51So, uh, that, you know, doesn't add up

6:23:54to me. Uh, and this is basically

6:23:59it basically boils down to mass

6:24:01surveillance. You know, the history of

6:24:03mass surveillance in this country is not

6:24:06a very good history. There's not a lot

6:24:08of great like shining examples of of it

6:24:11being used for good. It's usually used

6:24:14primarily for attacking communities that

6:24:17are minority communities, black

6:24:19communities, gay communities. Um, you

6:24:23know, there have been instances of

6:24:24police departments recording public

6:24:27restrooms to capture gay men in those

6:24:30restrooms having sex and then using that

6:24:32information either to charge them with a

6:24:35crime or to basically blackmail them

6:24:37into becoming informants. And this is

6:24:40something that has recurred throughout

6:24:43our history. Um, I mean, one of the

6:24:45major major infamous instances is the

6:24:49first director of the FBI, uh, Jay Edgar

6:24:52Hoover, also known as the king of

6:24:53blackmail, sent a letter to Martin

6:24:56Luther King Jr. saying, you know, if you

6:24:59do not kill yourself, then I'm going to

6:25:01expose all of this information we've

6:25:03gathered on your extrammarital affairs

6:25:05or whatever. Um after the uh 911 attacks

6:25:11uh in the US, this shifted onto Muslim

6:25:14communities, uh law enforcement would go

6:25:17into Muslim communities and track uh you

6:25:21know people within the community,

6:25:23determine if they're gay and then try to

6:25:25use that to undermine their position in

6:25:27that community and also turn them into

6:25:29informants. There have been instances

6:25:31where they go to a mosque and they say,

6:25:33"Okay, a terrorist visited this mosque.

6:25:35Now, everyone else who visits this

6:25:37mosque is uh subject to increased

6:25:41scrutiny, increased surveillance. It's a

6:25:44terrible history. Um,

6:25:47in Sparks, I don't know, they've said

6:25:49that they don't share their information

6:25:52with ICE. However, through a foyer

6:25:54request, it was revealed that they did

6:25:56have the option enabled to share data

6:25:58from their ALPR cameras with ICE. And uh

6:26:02I I ask you to either

6:26:04>> Thank you, Adrian.

6:26:09>> Mel Stites via Zoom uh followed by

6:26:12Matthew Casa via Zoom followed by Damen

6:26:14Cole.

6:26:16>> Hello.

6:26:17>> Yes, we can hear you.

6:26:19>> Okay, perfect. Um hello, my name is Mel

6:26:21Stites and I've been a Reno resident for

6:26:23almost 30 years. I'm asking that Reno

6:26:26City Council not approve any contract

6:26:28with any ALPR or any other surveillance

6:26:30technology vendors, including the

6:26:32contract with Axon, which is being

6:26:34discussed today. These cameras are being

6:26:37used for warrantless mass surveillance,

6:26:39which is a violation of our Fourth

6:26:40Amendment rights. Studies have shown

6:26:42that these technologies are ineffective

6:26:45at best and dangerous at worst.

6:26:48Um data has shown that there have been

6:26:50hundreds of instances of misuse and

6:26:52abuse including stalking of these

6:26:55surveillance technologies. Appro

6:26:57approving contracts signed with ALPR

6:27:00vendors does not keep our community

6:27:02safer. In fact, it does the exact

6:27:04opposite by putting all of us at risk.

6:27:07Approving this contract shows that

6:27:08you're willing to put our community

6:27:10members and their data at risk. It also

6:27:13shows that you're willing to throw away

6:27:15$21 million of taxpayers money. There

6:27:18are far better ways to spend $21 million

6:27:20of our money throughout our community.

6:27:23Many of which have been brought up in

6:27:25just today's meeting alone. Providing

6:27:27shade, usable playgrounds, and parks is

6:27:30where we want our money to go. It's kind

6:27:32of a bare minimum ask. Your constituents

6:27:35have repeatedly asked you not to approve

6:27:37any contracts with APLR vendors. We told

6:27:40you we didn't want these cameras in our

6:27:42community, but you decided to ignore

6:27:44your constituents and sign contracts

6:27:46with Flock. Anyway, we are asking you

6:27:49again, do not sign any contracts with

6:27:51any APLR vendors, including Axon. Stop

6:27:54treating our community like your enemy.

6:27:56Please listen to your constituents this

6:27:58time around, and do not pass this agenda

6:28:00item. Thank you.

6:28:04Matthew Casa via Zoom, followed by Damen

6:28:07Cole, followed by Steve Reia.

6:28:11>> Hello, Mayor Shivy. Um, city manager,

6:28:14um, I think our assistant mayor or vice

6:28:16mayor is, uh, is gone right now. Um, my

6:28:19council members, um, Mr. Council Member

6:28:21Ree, uh, I'm in your ward five. Uh, my

6:28:24name is Matthew Quesa. I am fortunate

6:28:26enough to have been a homeowner in the

6:28:27city of Reno for about 10 years now, and

6:28:30I work as a staff software engineer. I'm

6:28:32here to ask you to vote no on staff item

6:28:34C1. I work with AI on a daily basis and

6:28:37I am qualified to say this is not

6:28:39technology that we want watching you or

6:28:42me or our neighbors. Misidentifying us,

6:28:44grouping us with people we walk by,

6:28:46tracking us by our devices and the way

6:28:47we walk, flagging us for investigation

6:28:50by facial expression, tone of voice or

6:28:52body language. Data from numerous

6:28:54studies proves these systems are

6:28:55ineffective at best and [laughter] a

6:28:56disastrous [clears throat] liability

6:28:58when they go wrong. The contract in

6:29:00question, item C1, totals over $21

6:29:02million. 7.2 million of that for Axon AI

6:29:05alone. 1.8 million for drones, 180,000

6:29:09for fuses, 300,000 for Axon outpost.

6:29:12That's about $9.5 million we could use

6:29:14to build shade for children, fund

6:29:16soulful seeds and liberty dogs and the

6:29:18arts, and keep people from dying from

6:29:19exposure over this coming winter while

6:29:22still giving our police plenty of

6:29:23resources for training, paperwork, and

6:29:26officer safety. I would also call your

6:29:28attention to page 46 of the packet which

6:29:31states that customer grants Axon the

6:29:32right to install and maintain Axon

6:29:34outpost at location sites approved by

6:29:37Axon and that Axon reserves the right to

6:29:39invoice customer for the additional cost

6:29:41of installation. So for 8 years they get

6:29:43to call the shots and we have to pay.

6:29:45This is a terrible contract and 21.7

6:29:48million is just the base cost not the

6:29:50ceiling. The people of the city of Reno

6:29:53have made their wishes known to you

6:29:54about mass surveillance programs like

6:29:56Flock. Axon is just another vendor

6:29:58selling the same thing with the same

6:30:00problems, the same legal liability, the

6:30:03same violations of my Fourth Amendment

6:30:04rights. Playing a shell game of vendors

6:30:07is directly betraying the public trust.

6:30:09Enough is enough. And Chief of Police

6:30:12Sulfurino, Assistant Chief of Police

6:30:14Garlock, whose name is on this contract,

6:30:16you've officially had your jobs for five

6:30:18and four months, respectively. If you

6:30:20cannot identify a more useful thing on

6:30:22which to spend $21 million of our money,

6:30:25I suggest you attend some city council

6:30:27meetings and listen to our community or

6:30:29find a different job. Stop treating my

6:30:32community like your enemy.

6:30:34Uh thank you, mayor, council members for

6:30:36serving. Thank you for listening today.

6:30:39Uh please honor our wishes and vote no

6:30:41on C1. Um to go back to uh Chief of

6:30:45Police Sulfurino's presentation, uh they

6:30:48were scraping the bottom of the barrel

6:30:50to find five anecdotes from uh from the

6:30:53year to date. Uh in this packet, it says

6:30:55year-to- date RPD has reserve received

6:30:58164,573

6:31:00calls for service. That five cases that

6:31:03they could come up with that this

6:31:05technology helped with is 0.003%.

6:31:10I don't think that justifies $21.7

6:31:13million. Thank you so much.

6:31:17>> Thank you so much.

6:31:19>> Damian Cole, followed by Steve Reia

6:31:21followed by Kamal Abuhan via Zoom.

6:31:23>> What was that last speaker's name?

6:31:26>> Uh that just spoke. Matthew Quesa.

6:31:29>> What? That's

6:31:30>> Matthew Quesa.

6:31:31>> Okay, perfect.

6:31:34>> All right, Damen.

6:31:35>> Good afternoon.

6:31:36>> It's all you.

6:31:37>> Damen Cole for the record. Um,

6:31:40if you've done nothing wrong, you've got

6:31:43nothing to fear. If you've something to

6:31:45hide, you shouldn't even be here. Long

6:31:48live us, the persuaded we, integral

6:31:51collectively, to the whole project. It's

6:31:55brand new, conceived solely to protect

6:31:58you. Those were the opening words to his

6:32:01song written by Neil Tenant 20 years ago

6:32:04from the Pet Shop Boys regarding the

6:32:06rise of surveillance in the United

6:32:09Kingdom. [sighs]

6:32:11Took 20 years, but it's here. It's very

6:32:13sad.

6:32:15This whole thing is sad. I The one of

6:32:17the best things that I love about Reno

6:32:19is how open and inviting it is.

6:32:23I was I still remember when I was denied

6:32:27a public sidewalk at the public safety

6:32:31center to reach a park, a 50-year-old

6:32:34park

6:32:36to go to the entry point for the public

6:32:38safety center. One of the reasons why

6:32:40that request was denied among several

6:32:43others that were all fabricated was uh

6:32:47we don't want people hanging around the

6:32:49fence to the public safety center.

6:32:52That struck me as very odd. When I first

6:32:55came here, there were so few fences.

6:32:59There was so little in hostile

6:33:02landscaping.

6:33:04Um

6:33:06it's changed. I feel it. There's a

6:33:09difference going on. [snorts] This is

6:33:12just one more step. And to say that the

6:33:15data or the information is owned by the

6:33:18city, we're talking about text. This is

6:33:21going on the internet. It's a worldwide

6:33:24network. If it's accessible by one

6:33:27party, it can be accessible by other

6:33:29parties, either through nefarious means

6:33:32or through an administrative decision by

6:33:36someone behind a computer screen that

6:33:38has to just click on a on a check mark

6:33:41box. We're we're going the wrong path.

6:33:44This is this is horrible. and uh you

6:33:46know all of the details [clears throat]

6:33:47about you know brand names and contracts

6:33:50and everything it completely circumvents

6:33:53and undermines our entire principle of a

6:33:55free nation. So that's all I wanted to

6:33:58say. Thank you.

6:33:59>> All right. Thanks Damian.

6:34:02>> Steve Reia followed by Kamal Obahan via

6:34:04Zoom followed by Issa King.

6:34:10>> My name is Steve Reia. I live in Ward 2.

6:34:13I've [clears throat] lived in Reno for

6:34:1435 years.

6:34:16I'm here to comment on agenda item C1

6:34:19just like everybody else we've been

6:34:21hearing lately.

6:34:24And I'm also like the rest of them

6:34:26concerned about mass surveillance

6:34:28cameras.

6:34:30You all read the news and you've heard

6:34:33what people here have said today.

6:34:36You know that someone placed a tracking

6:34:38device on our mayor's car a while back.

6:34:42You may be interested to know that

6:34:45YouTubers have recorded and tracked the

6:34:48ALPR installation crews, police

6:34:51officers, and ICE agents.

6:34:55Guess what? None of these people liked

6:34:57it.

6:35:01Yet, our police chief wants to record

6:35:04and track all of us. [snorts]

6:35:08We're here to tell you that we don't

6:35:10want it.

6:35:12ALPRs are mass surveillance cameras.

6:35:16There are other problems with ALPRs.

6:35:19One of the police staffers who was kind

6:35:23enough to arrive here today told us that

6:35:26anyone could be the victim of crime.

6:35:30Exactly. Anyone whose Fourth Amendment

6:35:32rights are denied them is the victim of

6:35:36a state sponsored or maybe city

6:35:38sponsored crime.

6:35:41Innocent people are being pulled from

6:35:43cars at gunpoint, thrown to the ground,

6:35:46and put in jail due to misreading of

6:35:48their license plates.

6:35:52They forgot to mention how often these

6:35:54things happen. They've got the info. Why

6:35:58didn't we hear it? Numerous police

6:36:00officers across the country have been

6:36:02stalking former spouses, neighbors,

6:36:05unknown women they thought were hot.

6:36:06We've heard about that.

6:36:10Vandalism is rampant. Cities are on the

6:36:13hook when these surveillance cameras are

6:36:16vandalized. You've heard all that.

6:36:18Here's something maybe you haven't

6:36:19heard. The Wall Street Journal on

6:36:22October 10th of this year had an article

6:36:25called video cameras are everywhere and

6:36:28now they're being hacked for war. Iran

6:36:31and Israel are hacking each other's

6:36:32surveillance cameras for precise

6:36:34targeting of drones. So are Russia and

6:36:37Ukraine. and all they need is AI hackers

6:36:39and they get control of their enemy's

6:36:41cameras for precise targeting of their

6:36:43own drones. We're now at war with Iran.

6:36:48Are we immune from such hacking of

6:36:51surveillance cameras to precisely target

6:36:54their drones against us? Current

6:36:57technology can make 9/11 terrorists seem

6:36:59like amateurs by comparison. We bombed

6:37:02one of their schools. Maybe they'd like

6:37:04to get some of ours. We're an early

6:37:07voting state. Maybe we get presidents

6:37:09and presidential candidates here. Are we

6:37:11supposed to believe we're immune to such

6:37:13attacks here in Reno?

6:37:16>> No.

6:37:16>> Thank you.

6:37:17>> Automatic license.

6:37:19>> Thank you. Kamal Abuhan via Zoom

6:37:22followed by Issa King followed by Max

6:37:24Mcomes.

6:37:26>> Oh, hi again everybody. Uh I'm W five.

6:37:29For the record, the name is Kamal

6:37:30Abuhan.

6:37:31I would be interested in a continuence

6:37:34uh of this particular of of C1.

6:37:38Um my position here, I'm going to zoom

6:37:40out a little bit. I'm gonna go off of

6:37:41what our previous speaker or our our

6:37:44previous speaker has spoke about. So I

6:37:48can appreciate Chiefs Chief uh

6:37:50Sulfurino, if I pronounced that

6:37:52correctly. If I haven't, I apologize. I

6:37:54I appreciate his position. I I

6:37:57appreciate the scope in which he's

6:37:59working. Uh but I'm going to I'm going

6:38:02to zoom us out of his scope and what I

6:38:04would like to request if we could ask

6:38:05him this question. Is this network

6:38:07completely isolated one from the

6:38:10internet? I.e. there's no uniform

6:38:14resource locating uh ability to access

6:38:16the network. Is the ability is there any

6:38:20ability for um for both the state and

6:38:24the federal government to gain access to

6:38:26the system through some sort of

6:38:27agreement?

6:38:29uh based on our previous speaker, these

6:38:32are the avenues in which foreign

6:38:34governments and our and and federal

6:38:36could gain access to our systems. I I I

6:38:38am completely opposed this. I know I

6:38:41made this request to our W five

6:38:43representative, sir. And and the

6:38:46response I got was of course not. And I

6:38:49agree, of course not. But we need to

6:38:51help our chief and the police if they're

6:38:54going to govern correctly, if we're

6:38:56going to allow for this to happen, we

6:38:58need to present or create the guidelines

6:39:01in which that the work that they do will

6:39:03actually have an effect. So the way I

6:39:06see this kind of like the sci-fi show

6:39:08Battlestar Galactica, the reason why the

6:39:09Battlestar Galactica survived was

6:39:12because it was outside the network that

6:39:14was hacked. that when they finally

6:39:16confronted the enemy, they had the

6:39:18firewalls that were in place to allow

6:39:20for the enemy not to gain access to

6:39:22their networks. Same story here. We got

6:39:24to think about the future now. We have

6:39:26our sovereignty. We have our union, but

6:39:28our union could be compromised as our

6:39:30previous speaker has heard at a future

6:39:32date. I'm with the Larouche Foundation

6:39:35and I can tell you that we are uh we are

6:39:38specifically speaking to collaboration

6:39:41with foreign governments and AI is has

6:39:44happens to be one of the and you know I

6:39:45talked about the the firewall the issue

6:39:47with the AI and the data centers that I

6:39:50just want to let everyone know that it's

6:39:52all related they all are interconnected.

6:39:55So, if we could give our chief of police

6:39:58the tools, let's make sure these

6:40:01networks are isolated and outside uh a

6:40:06public domain. Thank you,

6:40:10>> Issa King followed by uh Max Mcomes,

6:40:13followed by Michael Wararez via Zoom.

6:40:18>> So, I am the I am I am for the cameras.

6:40:22Okay, that's why I'm standing here. My

6:40:24name is Issa King and I manage the

6:40:25Ferris Apartments located at 1752 East

6:40:284th Street which is located directly

6:40:30across the street from the Washington

6:40:31County Caris campus. Um, as a woman who

6:40:34lives and works in this area, crime is a

6:40:36daily concern for me. I believe these

6:40:39cameras can be a valuable public safety

6:40:41tool and they have been not only for law

6:40:43enforcement but also for property

6:40:44managers, tenants, businesses and

6:40:46residents who are working to keep their

6:40:47neighborhoods safe. I understand

6:40:50concerns about privacy and potential

6:40:51misuse of surveillance technology and

6:40:53camera pro camera programs should

6:40:55include clear rules, appropriate

6:40:58oversight, transparency, and

6:40:59accountability. At the same time, when

6:41:01these cameras are used for their

6:41:02intended purpose that can provide timely

6:41:04evidence, help officers understand what

6:41:06is happening in real time, identify

6:41:08suspects, recover stolen property, and

6:41:10prevent serious crimes from going

6:41:12unsolved.

6:41:14Um, at my property I regularly see and

6:41:16deal with the effects of narcotics

6:41:18activity, domestic assaults, theft, and

6:41:20sometimes violent offenses. Up to this

6:41:22point, I have received uh little

6:41:23assistance from outreach organizations.

6:41:26But the Reno Police Department has been

6:41:28available and when they are not, the

6:41:30drones have been available, which has

6:41:32been a remarkable thing for me, has been

6:41:34very helpful to me in my personal

6:41:37my personal life. Um, this technology

6:41:39could benefit every Reno neighborhood

6:41:41whether it currently experiences high

6:41:42crime or not. Crime does not remain

6:41:44confined to one street or one part of

6:41:46the city regardless of where we all call

6:41:48home. It's it affects can eventually

6:41:50reach us all. And I want to say instead

6:41:53of continuing to read that, you know,

6:41:54everyone can talk about statistics and

6:41:57tracking somebody across six states

6:41:59unless it's your daughter that's in the

6:42:00back of a car that you need to track.

6:42:03Okay? So those things need nobody's

6:42:05going to be laying on the ground taking

6:42:06their last breath wondering if their

6:42:08technology if if they're being tracked.

6:42:10They're going to be thankful that the

6:42:11drone was there to see them in danger.

6:42:14And I've been in the position where I've

6:42:15seen where the drone has helped officers

6:42:18and citizens alike. And I can't tell you

6:42:20how my life is worth $21 million. I

6:42:23don't know about you.

6:42:25Thank you.

6:42:25>> Thank you.

6:42:28Max Mcomes, followed by Michael Wararez

6:42:31via Zoom, followed by Martha Washington

6:42:33via Zoom.

6:42:35>> Madame Mayor, city manager, members of

6:42:38the city council, good afternoon or

6:42:42almost good evening. My um my name is

6:42:45Max Mcomes. I've lived in Reno for about

6:42:4874 years.

6:42:50I've raised my children here. We have

6:42:53four generations of our family here. I

6:42:56um I'm the owner operator of the Ferris

6:42:59Apartments

6:43:01located at 1752 East Fourth Street. I've

6:43:04owned this property for approximately 45

6:43:07years.

6:43:09And it uh it's been um it's been a

6:43:13lovehate relationship,

6:43:16more love than hate. Uh even though we

6:43:19we've had problems with various things,

6:43:23uh the property has been interesting

6:43:26from historical aspects

6:43:29and and helping those in the community

6:43:32that that need and try to have a safe

6:43:35place to live.

6:43:37I am in favor of this proposal.

6:43:41I think uh I think the community not

6:43:45only the um would be best served as a

6:43:49result of having this technology in

6:43:51place. I am in full support of the Reno

6:43:54Police Department, their officers, the

6:43:58chief, and all those associated with the

6:44:00police department, as well as staff and

6:44:04others within the city that have an

6:44:06insurmountable job to do as they try

6:44:11to keep people safe with the tools that

6:44:14they have.

6:44:16This is um

6:44:19this is an interesting situation. I

6:44:22think that um these police officers as

6:44:26we've uh dealt with them on a very

6:44:29positive basis, they are

6:44:33they're burning the candles candle at

6:44:36both ends. They need this technology

6:44:40not only for their own safety but for

6:44:43the safety of all the local businesses

6:44:46up and down Fourth Street and throughout

6:44:48the city as well as those that citizens

6:44:53within the city I I understand the

6:44:56complaints the opposition

6:44:59I understand their arguments but it's my

6:45:04understanding that the city attorney's

6:45:06office has gone over the agreements with

6:45:10uh the vendor in this process and has

6:45:12approved it. I don't know if anybody

6:45:14else on the opposition has read the uh

6:45:18the contractual agreements like the city

6:45:21attorney's office. I've done a lot of

6:45:24litigation in my or been involved in a

6:45:27lot of litigation throughout my career

6:45:30and you learn to trust your attorneys

6:45:34and the council that you have before

6:45:37you. So, on behalf of myself and all the

6:45:40other managers and owners of businesses,

6:45:47>> thank you, Max. [snorts]

6:45:51>> Okay. Thank you.

6:45:53>> Michael War via Zoom, followed by Martha

6:45:56Washington via Zoom, followed by Brian

6:45:58Christensen.

6:46:01>> Hello. Can you hear me?

6:46:03>> Yes, we can.

6:46:04>> Okay, great. Uh, good afternoon, mayor

6:46:07and council members. My name is Michael

6:46:10Wararez and uh I'm resident in WA 4. I'm

6:46:15asking you to reject any new contract

6:46:18for automatic license plate readers,

6:46:21including a replacement contract with

6:46:24Axon. My concern goes beyond which

6:46:28company supplies the cameras. It is

6:46:30whether our city should collect and

6:46:33store information about the movements of

6:46:35people who are not suspected of any

6:46:38crime. Residents deserve clear answers.

6:46:43what information is collected, how long

6:46:45is it kept and who can access it, which

6:46:49and uh which outside agencies can search

6:46:52it

6:46:53um and what happens when that technology

6:46:56makes a mistake or someone misuses that

6:46:59access. So I believe that these

6:47:02questions deserve a public discussion

6:47:04before the city makes another

6:47:06commitment. Changing vendors doesn't

6:47:09resolve the underlying concerns about

6:47:11privacy, accountability, and the

6:47:13responsible use of taxpayer money. If

6:47:16the police department believes these

6:47:18cameras are essential, it should present

6:47:21independently verified evidence showing

6:47:23their effectiveness. That evidence

6:47:26should distinguish between a camera

6:47:28being used during an investigation and

6:47:30information from that camera actually

6:47:32helping solve the case. The public also

6:47:36deserves a full accounting of costs,

6:47:38errors, and safeguards against misuse. I

6:47:41support effective public safety. I also

6:47:44believe protecting our privacy and civil

6:47:47liberties is part of keeping our

6:47:49communities safe. Residents should not

6:47:52have to surrender one to receive the

6:47:54other.

6:47:55Please reject new license plate reader

6:47:58contracts and hold a dedicated public

6:48:00hearing where residents can get answers

6:48:02before any further decision. Our tax

6:48:05dollars should support approaches that

6:48:08demonstrate a clear public benefit and

6:48:10respect the people who live here. Thank

6:48:12you.

6:48:15Martha Washington via Zoom, followed by

6:48:17Brian Christensen, followed by Brandon

6:48:19Carney.

6:48:26>> Hi, can you hear me?

6:48:27>> Yes, we can.

6:48:28>> Perfect. First of all, what a long day.

6:48:32And I'd appreciate everybody looking up

6:48:34from their um screens. Um, I'm a former

6:48:38teacher and I used to say all eyes on me

6:48:41because that's the only way you can give

6:48:43somebody 100% uh respect and attention.

6:48:47Um, I'm neutral on uh the cameras. I

6:48:52remember a Reno in the 60s where you

6:48:55could go down there as a small child and

6:48:59feel very safe and um I don't feel that

6:49:04anymore. It's downtown Reno is a place

6:49:06where you remove your jewelry and you

6:49:10don't get gussied up as my grandmother

6:49:13would say. Um because you are fearful

6:49:16you're going to get knocked over the

6:49:18head. So I'm on the one hand I I'm sad

6:49:23that we don't feel safe in downtown

6:49:25Reno. But then on the other hand I have

6:49:29deep concerns about how this technology

6:49:31is going to be used. In fact, um there

6:49:35are two council members that have

6:49:37endorsed uh a city uh award for

6:49:42candidate who has had um two TPO

6:49:46allegations just in the last year. Um

6:49:49I'm going to read you some of his um

6:49:52this gentleman's um text to his victims.

6:49:57Eat, sleep, scare the hose, repeat. I

6:50:01want a Glock with an A-beam and an

6:50:04extended clip for Christmas.

6:50:08Um, she makes me feel like a feral blank

6:50:12animal, like she fed me once and I'm at

6:50:15her door every night. Wake up and stalk

6:50:19my hoe and start my day. This is the

6:50:23ward for candidate that two gentlemen on

6:50:28this dis have uh endorsed. I am afraid

6:50:32if he wins he may be using this type of

6:50:36technology

6:50:37not for the greater good. Thank you very

6:50:40much.

6:50:41>> Thank you Beth Dory.

6:50:45>> Brian Christensen followed by Brandon

6:50:47Carney followed by Brie Casper.

6:50:55All right. Good evening, Madam Mayor.

6:50:57>> Good evening.

6:50:57>> Good evening, uh, esteemed council

6:50:59members, manager Bryant, and of course

6:51:01all of those in attendance today to

6:51:03discuss this very important topic. Um,

6:51:06I'm going to try and bring in uh explain

6:51:09the police perspective in 3 minutes or

6:51:11less. My name is Officer Brian

6:51:13Christensen. I am the RPPA president. I

6:51:15represent the fine people that serve as

6:51:17police officers and detectives for the

6:51:19great this great city. Normally, I stand

6:51:21here to discuss how an issue does or

6:51:22does not benefit my members. Today, I'm

6:51:25actually here to speak how this

6:51:27technology benefits the people that need

6:51:28it most, the victims of crime in Reno.

6:51:30In the winter of 2017, I was a very new

6:51:33officer and was sent to a person's home

6:51:34to investigate a domestic battery. There

6:51:37were very little details from dispatch

6:51:38before I got there, so I had no idea

6:51:40what I was walking into. I found a young

6:51:42lady at home. She had been up late

6:51:44tonight waiting for her husband, whom

6:51:46she loves very much, to return home from

6:51:48the bar after a well-deserved night with

6:51:50his friends. She secretly dreaded his

6:51:52return, though. When he drank too much,

6:51:54he became angry. That night, he became

6:51:56very angry, angrier than she has ever

6:51:58seen him. He stated the same argument at

6:52:01he started the same argument as as past

6:52:03nights, accusing her of cheating on him.

6:52:05She did her best to calm him and

6:52:07reassure him, but that night, something

6:52:09snapped inside of the man. The female

6:52:12victim was punched, thrown over the

6:52:13couch, and strangled to the point that

6:52:15she lost control of her bladder. It

6:52:17[snorts] was the worst thing that has

6:52:18ever happened to her.

6:52:20My job, our job is to stabilize these

6:52:23situations.

6:52:25Restore order and security. How do you

6:52:27restore security when the suspect has a

6:52:30key to the front door and controls all

6:52:32the finances? Back then, we would do our

6:52:35best. We would present one of these nice

6:52:38yellow pieces of paper. It describes

6:52:41domestic violence, which she just

6:52:43experienced, and how to obtain a

6:52:44temporary protection order, maybe

6:52:46connect her with a BSU employee to help

6:52:49her find a place for the night. My

6:52:51partners and I would drive around until

6:52:53the next call for help would come in

6:52:55from dispatch. In our free time over the

6:52:56coming weeks and months, we would look

6:52:59for the suspect to try and bring them to

6:53:00justice so the victim could live in

6:53:02peace. Once again, we usually only found

6:53:05someone on a chance encounter or when

6:53:06they return to victimize the loved ones

6:53:08again.

6:53:10In 1943, Abraham Maslo proposed human

6:53:14humans basic needs fall into a simple

6:53:15hierarchy. The theory states a person

6:53:18needs needs on each level must be

6:53:20completely fulfilled before moving up to

6:53:21the next need. If they cannot fill that

6:53:23need, it will be foremost in their mind

6:53:25and their primary goal until it is

6:53:27filled. Safety is only one above the

6:53:29bottom. In the example above, the

6:53:32suspect is gone. And this is this is all

6:53:33the victim can think about. How can I be

6:53:35safe? When is he coming back? Will I

6:53:37ever be scared again? As I said, finding

6:53:39suspect, which sometimes takes months.

6:53:41Now, we can restore a person's sense of

6:53:42safety in days and sometimes hours. A

6:53:44suspect leaves after finding and

6:53:46verifying their vehicle license plate. I

6:53:47can see if they are in the immediate

6:53:48area. Uh, running out of time, so I'll

6:53:51skip forward. Uh, I wish I could sit

6:53:54here and talk all day. We have so many

6:53:56different cases that we have had

6:53:57positive outcomes in that there is not

6:54:00enough time in the day to even discuss

6:54:01them here in this 3minut setting.

6:54:04[laughter]

6:54:05>> Thank you.

6:54:06>> Thanks so much

6:54:07>> Brandon Carney followed by Brie Casper

6:54:10followed by Tara Webster via Zoom.

6:54:15>> Mayor, members of council, my name is

6:54:17Lieutenant Brandon Carney. I am the

6:54:19political affairs officer for the Reno

6:54:20Police Supervisors and Administrative

6:54:22Employee Association. I'm here today to

6:54:24speak in support of funding the Axon

6:54:25ecosystem for our local police

6:54:27department. I want to acknowledge an

6:54:28important truth. We must guard against

6:54:30over surveillance and protect our civil

6:54:32liberties. Government transparency is

6:54:34non-negotiable. Our goal must be to

6:54:36balance public safety with privacy

6:54:38protections and accountability. Axon's

6:54:40automated license plate record uh reader

6:54:42technology or ALPR helps officers

6:54:44identify vehicles connected to specific

6:54:46investigations and alerts can be

6:54:48triggered by matches to designated

6:54:49databases such as stolen vehicles,

6:54:51suspects wanted in violent crimes or

6:54:53vehicles connected to an active Amber

6:54:54Alert. This allows officers to focus on

6:54:56relevant leads rather than unnecessarily

6:54:59expanding uh police interactions with

6:55:01law-abiding citizens. With our current

6:55:03staffing shortages, officers are

6:55:05stretched thin. This technology can help

6:55:07them prioritize urgent calls, use

6:55:09limited resources more effectively, and

6:55:11respond to situations where lives may be

6:55:12at risk. But this is more about than

6:55:15this is about more than staffing and

6:55:18efficiency. It is also about victims.

6:55:20When a crime occurs, victims and their

6:55:22families are often left with painful

6:55:24questions. Who is responsible? Will the

6:55:26person be found? Will there ever be

6:55:27answers? APR data can provide

6:55:29investigative leads that help officers

6:55:31locate stolen vehicles and identify

6:55:33vehicles potentially connected to

6:55:34crimes. Combined with bodywn cameras and

6:55:37secure digital evidence management,

6:55:38relevant evidence can help investigators

6:55:40build cases and pursue accountability.

6:55:43For victims and their families, progress

6:55:44in investigation can mean answers, a

6:55:46greater sense of justice, and the

6:55:48possibility of moving forward after a

6:55:49traumatic experience. Technology cannot

6:55:52erase what happened or guarantee

6:55:53closure, but can help law enforcement

6:55:55pursue the evidence that brings victims

6:55:56closer to it. Equally important are the

6:55:58safeguards protecting our community.

6:56:00Every time an officer accesses the

6:56:02system, an uneditable audit trail

6:56:04records that activity. This creates

6:56:06accountability by allowing authorized

6:56:07reviewers to examine this the system

6:56:09access and help identify potential

6:56:11misuse. Access controls, appropriate

6:56:14data retention limits, and meaningful

6:56:16oversight are essential to ensuring this

6:56:17technology is used for legitimate law

6:56:19enforcement purposes, not indiscriminate

6:56:21surveillance.

6:56:23By funding Axon's ecosystem contract,

6:56:27this council has an opportunity to

6:56:28support a police department that works

6:56:29more effectively while respecting

6:56:30residents rights, public safety, and

6:56:32civil liberties must go hand in hand. I

6:56:34urge you to consider both the

6:56:36protections that this technology must

6:56:37uphold and the people that may help. Our

6:56:39officers, our community, and the victims

6:56:42and families who deserve answers. Thank

6:56:44you for your time. And I want to stress

6:56:45that during chief's presentation,

6:56:46everybody else, we only it's a very

6:56:48brief moment and uh on highlights of

6:56:51some of the crimes that were helped.

6:56:53It's not by far not the only crimes that

6:56:55were helped solved by ALPR Technologies.

6:56:57Thank you.

6:56:58>> Thank you,

6:57:00>> Bri Casper, followed by Tara Webster via

6:57:03Zoom, followed by Matthew Wilkkey.

6:57:08>> Good evening, Mayor and all the council

6:57:10members. Thank you so much for being

6:57:11here. Um I had prepared this great

6:57:15comment that most of it's been covered.

6:57:17You know ultimately

6:57:21you know being surveiled does not mean

6:57:23safety. Um and you know I can sit here

6:57:26and talk to you about the 200 towns

6:57:28across the country that are eliminating

6:57:30flock safety because of its warrantless

6:57:32and discriminating mass surveillance.

6:57:34But I'd like to talk to you about a

6:57:36little bit of a personal matter. Um, my

6:57:39first time being here, I had a box of

6:57:41signs out front that I was told had to

6:57:44stay out front. And when I got out of

6:57:46the meeting, a lot of my signs were

6:57:48missing and they were made of cardboard,

6:57:50so I didn't really think much of it. And

6:57:52yeah, we spent lots of time doing it.

6:57:54Um, but I wasn't going to make a big

6:57:56fuss, right? The second time or weeks

6:57:58later, I was here again. Um, and this

6:58:01time I had some food, what I was not

6:58:03allowed to bring in with me, and I was

6:58:05told to leave it outside. And when I

6:58:07came out, all of my food was gone. And

6:58:09now we're going to fast forward to

6:58:11Thursday when I was here for the

6:58:12planning commission meeting. We were

6:58:14here until midnight30

6:58:16um talking about the stadium and the

6:58:19skyways. And when I left, my water

6:58:21bottle was missing. Now I just pay $50

6:58:24on a new water bottle and now it's gone.

6:58:26Right? So I go to the security officer

6:58:29and he says, "Oh, give me your name and

6:58:31number. We'll follow up on this. We'll

6:58:32look at the footage." And I felt really

6:58:35confident that something would happen,

6:58:36right? Because you guys have footage

6:58:38that has facial recognition, right? Um,

6:58:42but instead, I got a call that said that

6:58:43they had identified the person who took

6:58:45my water bottle and wanted me to know

6:58:48what I wanted done. So, I called back

6:58:50the number and left a message. Didn't

6:58:52hear anything back. Monday, I came in to

6:58:54talk to security and was gas lit and

6:58:57told that I needed to fill out a police

6:58:59report, even though that was never told

6:59:00to me on Thursday. So, I said, "Okay,

6:59:02fine. and I'll fill out a police report.

6:59:04And they're like, "Oh, no, it's okay.

6:59:05We'll do it for you." So, they filled

6:59:06out a police report for me and I waited

6:59:09and it's been two days. Haven't heard

6:59:10anything back. So, when I'm coming here

6:59:12today, I thought I'll follow up. I asked

6:59:14and yet again, there's no information

6:59:16[clears throat] or actually it's

6:59:17different information this time from the

6:59:20actual supervisor of the security of

6:59:22this building. So, the audacity of

6:59:24somebody to steal some private property

6:59:27of someone in a government building

6:59:29under surveillance in front of a

6:59:31security guard and yet these ALPRs

6:59:35haven't apprehended the suspect. my case

6:59:37is still open and now it's in the

6:59:40police's hands and I'm waiting for it to

6:59:43it's clogging up the system when in fact

6:59:45like this could have been resolved a lot

6:59:47quicker, a lot simpler and it's not

6:59:49technically even considered the amount

6:59:51of crime that we need to be utilizing

6:59:53this force of technology. Like we just

6:59:55need people to do their jobs that we've

6:59:57been doing for centuries before this. I

7:00:00feel like police have most of our budget

7:00:02for the city and more than half of that

7:00:04is going to practice ammunition. So, I

7:00:06think that we could just look at

7:00:08reallocating funds so that things like

7:00:10this don't happen where people don't

7:00:11have their private property, personal

7:00:13property stolen.

7:00:15>> Thank you, Tara Webster via Zoom.

7:00:18>> Thank you.

7:00:19>> Followed by Matthew Wilkkey, followed by

7:00:21Michael Browitt.

7:00:24>> Hello, this is Tara Webster. Um, my

7:00:27let's see, I am a ward by resident. I'm

7:00:29the policy manager for the Progressive

7:00:31Leadership Alliance of Nevada. And just

7:00:33like everyone else, um, calling in

7:00:35opposition to this agenda item, you

7:00:37know, there isn't any meaning meaningful

7:00:38benefit to our community for AI

7:00:39surveillance and that this technology as

7:00:41a whole is holistically flawed. There is

7:00:43documented error rates that exceed 30%.

7:00:46We've seen wrongful stops and arrests

7:00:48and a lot of serious abuses by law

7:00:49enforcement, you know, who are stalking

7:00:51romantic partners and exes. We've seen

7:00:53this recently in Carson City where a

7:00:55deputy abused AI surveillance to track a

7:00:57man she was having an affair with.

7:00:59Another uh case in Carson, a police

7:01:01officer abused his camera access to

7:01:03track his aranged wife over 700 times.

7:01:06These aren't isolated incidents there.

7:01:09The these abuses are happening across

7:01:10the country. Recently in Georgia, a

7:01:12police officer gave her husband who was

7:01:15a federal ICE agent her login

7:01:17information to access the city

7:01:18surveillance data where he conducted

7:01:20searches across six different states.

7:01:23So, appreciate the presentation by the

7:01:25chief, but um really disagree with the

7:01:28fact that uh the system is as secure as

7:01:31he says that it is. And some of you on

7:01:34city council have personally experienced

7:01:36harm when your privacy was invaded. And

7:01:37just as you know, I don't believe that

7:01:39our mayor deserve to be surveiled,

7:01:40neither do members of the community. And

7:01:42so, please don't subject our community

7:01:44to unwanted and unregulated surveillance

7:01:46that has a $22 million price tag. We

7:01:49want real investments that help people

7:01:51feel safe and supported. Access to

7:01:53public transit, walkable neighborhoods,

7:01:55clean parks, child care centers,

7:01:57affordable housing, warming and cooling

7:01:58centers for people who are experiencing

7:02:00homelessness. And right now, we're in

7:02:02the middle of this early voting for the

7:02:04midterm election and rushing this

7:02:06contract um is really fiscally

7:02:07irresponsible and is eroding the public

7:02:09trust where we really should be waiting

7:02:12for our incoming uh mayor and city

7:02:15council members to have a say in this.

7:02:17Thank you.

7:02:20Matthew Wilkkey followed by Michael

7:02:22Browett followed by Kayla Mays via Zoom.

7:02:28>> Uh mayor, council members, city manager.

7:02:32Um good evening at this point. Uh my

7:02:33name is Matthew Wilkkey for the record.

7:02:35I'm going to read off my phone because

7:02:36ADHD. Um let's be honest about what's

7:02:39happening here today. The public raised

7:02:41concerns about the technology, the

7:02:43tracking of the tracking of innocent

7:02:45people and the lack of meaningful

7:02:46transparency. And you canled Flock,

7:02:48which was cool. But these concerns did

7:02:51not magically disappear. Um, but here is

7:02:54an important question. Why are we

7:02:56rushing to commit Reno to a long-term

7:02:58surveillance system when the Nevada

7:03:00legislature is preparing to address this

7:03:02very issue? Assembly member Selena Lur

7:03:04Hatch is bringing forward legislation

7:03:06this coming session to ban ALPRs

7:03:08statewide. I know this the police union

7:03:11will be there to oppose this bill. I'll

7:03:13see you at the capital. Um, [snorts]

7:03:14however, this is serious policy debate

7:03:17and it deserves to happen before local

7:03:19governments lock themselves into years

7:03:21of contracts that could become

7:03:23incompatible with the direction the

7:03:24legislature ultimately chooses to go.

7:03:27When residents raised concerns about

7:03:28data centers, we heard from this dis

7:03:32let's wait for the legislature. We were

7:03:34told by the city and members of this dis

7:03:36like I said let's wait the state needs

7:03:37to address this issue that local action

7:03:39may be premature and that we should let

7:03:41the legislature the legislative process

7:03:43play out. I agree let's do that with

7:03:46ALPRs too. Um if waiting for the

7:03:49legislature is a reasonable position on

7:03:51data centers it is reasonable on ALPRs

7:03:53as well. Do not bind the city into this

7:03:55contract before it has had a fair

7:03:58opportunity to determine whether this

7:03:59technology will even be permitted at

7:04:01all. um spares the argument that these

7:04:04systems are harmless if you have nothing

7:04:05to hide. Um we're talking about ordinary

7:04:08people driving to work, visiting

7:04:09doctors, attending protests, going to

7:04:12religious events, seeking reproductive

7:04:14health care, um and other medical cares,

7:04:16visiting people that they love on a

7:04:17daily basis. The government does not

7:04:19need to know everywhere somebody goes to

7:04:21keep the community safe. Um, [snorts]

7:04:24and how these few outliers were given

7:04:27makes me wonder how much of that was so

7:04:29solved solely due to tech and how much

7:04:30of them was just them doing their jobs.

7:04:32Um, Benjamin Franklin pre uh warned

7:04:35famously warned that sacrificing

7:04:37essential liberty for temporary safety.

7:04:39And apparently some of you believe that

7:04:41lessons become optional when the

7:04:43technology company arrives with a very

7:04:45impressive presentation. Um, and while

7:04:47we're talking about transparency, I want

7:04:48to talk briefly about council member

7:04:50Der. Um, council member Derer asked

7:04:52about a specific agenda item addressing

7:04:54ALPRS and surveillance technology in

7:04:56general um, months ago and have it

7:04:59written in code and that request has yet

7:05:02to be um, received and had the public

7:05:05um, to talk about. Um, if [snorts] the

7:05:07senior most member of this council

7:05:09cannot get a requested item brought

7:05:10forth um, by this this staff, what

7:05:13chances do we ordinary citizens have of

7:05:15legitimately having our questions

7:05:17concerned? This problem is way bigger

7:05:19than any single vendor. This is a

7:05:20failure of transparency from the very

7:05:22top all the way down to the bottom. If

7:05:25do not [snorts] approve this, please um

7:05:27ask for a continuence and uh see you at

7:05:29the legislature.

7:05:31[snorts]

7:05:33>> Michael Browitt followed by Kayla Mays

7:05:35followed by Adam Blount.

7:05:40>> Good evening, mayor, city manager,

7:05:42council. Um for the record, my name is

7:05:44Michael Brown. I'm a lieutenant with the

7:05:45Reno Police Department. Um, I have, uh,

7:05:48been in emergency services for over 30

7:05:50years and 27 of that in law enforcement.

7:05:53Um, I just wanted to address a couple

7:05:56things. Uh, like everyone has mentioned,

7:05:58so many things have been covered and,

7:06:00uh, I'm altering what I have to say, uh,

7:06:02because of that. I don't want to be too

7:06:04repetitive, but, um, firearms, tasers,

7:06:07less lethal equipment, everything that

7:06:09we have in law enforcement was once new.

7:06:13Um, and those new things came with

7:06:16unintended consequences and they always

7:06:18will. Um, and the way that we address

7:06:22that in this field is through policy,

7:06:24through training, through procedure,

7:06:26through legislative decisions, through

7:06:28court decisions and we adapt and we

7:06:30change our practices and we do all those

7:06:32things. Um, this technology is no

7:06:35different. It is not going to lend

7:06:38itself to a perfect one-time solution.

7:06:40And you've heard today that there are

7:06:42certainly um advantages to the

7:06:45technology. There are disadvantages. Uh

7:06:48I had the pleasure of working with you

7:06:50know over 30 people throughout the city

7:06:52to uh develop our policy and procedure

7:06:57uh related to this. Uh I have to tell

7:06:58you that uh when we started I expected

7:07:00to just steal everybody else's. Right?

7:07:02That's what we do. um there are no

7:07:04policies uh really in existence that

7:07:07cover these technologies to the level

7:07:11that they need to be covered. I do not

7:07:13disagree with what a lot of the

7:07:14opposition has said about the dangers of

7:07:17these technologies and that's why I I do

7:07:20firmly believe in my personal heart of

7:07:21hearts that we have crafted a policy

7:07:23that that meets and exceeds what's being

7:07:26discussed out there as far as the risks

7:07:28of these technology. Um there is the

7:07:31human factor. There will always be bad

7:07:33actors. There's bad actors in law

7:07:35enforcement. There's bad actors in

7:07:36healthcare. There's bad actors in

7:07:37banking. There's bad actors in every

7:07:39industry

7:07:41that we encounter as human beings. Um,

7:07:44we have to have ways of addressing those

7:07:47bad actors. This policy accounts for

7:07:49that up to and including termination.

7:07:51And I think it's very serious. I liken

7:07:53it to uh the systems we use, NCIC, um,

7:07:56and criminal records and stuff like

7:07:58that. Everybody knows in law

7:08:00enforcement, you ask any law enforcement

7:08:01officer, if you you misuse NCIC, what's

7:08:04going to happen to you? The answer will

7:08:05unequivocally be you're going to be

7:08:07fired and you may be charged with a

7:08:08federal crime. It's well known. I don't

7:08:10see these technologies being any

7:08:12different. Um there will be changes.

7:08:15There will be things that need to be

7:08:17addressed. Um but as you heard on the

7:08:19victim side of it, we have to balance

7:08:21the good that these tools are doing and

7:08:23the lives that are being even saved um

7:08:26with these tools along with the privacy

7:08:28rights. I would just ask that you give

7:08:30the police department to do that. I

7:08:31think we're well equipped to. You have a

7:08:33lot of passionate people, a lot of smart

7:08:35people who who do understand these

7:08:37issues uh and are are willing to take on

7:08:39this battle and and truly be that model

7:08:41of excellence that we hope to be um and

7:08:44not only lead the state but perhaps even

7:08:45the country in our use of this

7:08:47technology.

7:08:48>> Thank you. Thank you.

7:08:51We're trying to get extra points over

7:08:52here.

7:08:53>> Of course.

7:08:55[laughter]

7:08:56>> Good move. That's smart.

7:08:59Kayla Mays via Zoom, followed by Adam

7:09:01Blount, followed by Steve Mayfield.

7:09:07>> We go.

7:09:09>> Kayla, if you could unmute.

7:09:12>> Oh, can you hear me?

7:09:13>> Yes.

7:09:14>> Okay, thank you. Um, good afternoon,

7:09:16mayor, members of the council. My name

7:09:17is Kayla Messe, and I serve as the

7:09:20policy manager at the ACLU of Nevada.

7:09:22The ending of the contract should not

7:09:24have been celebrated when this council

7:09:26is simply shifting the surveillance

7:09:27power to axon technology. Members of

7:09:30this community were given false hope

7:09:31that this council was finally voting

7:09:33with what the people want just to place

7:09:35this on an agenda with 5-day notice to

7:09:37divert $22 million from the public to

7:09:40surveil the very people it's supposed to

7:09:41serve. To vote on this a few weeks

7:09:43before an election in which some members

7:09:45will no longer be sitting on this

7:09:46council does not serve the best interest

7:09:48of the people of Reno. You may hear

7:09:49commentary about different guardrails

7:09:51can be put into place, including

7:09:53guardrails once specified by ACLU

7:09:55surrounding ALPR technology. Those

7:09:57guardrails were provided before the

7:09:59existence of mass surveillance networks

7:10:01that have been created by ALPR

7:10:03operators, including a dangerous mass

7:10:05surveillance network that you are

7:10:06currently considering approving. Make no

7:10:08mistake, the ACLU is unequivocal in our

7:10:10positions. We support a total and

7:10:12complete ban on ALPRs. You should at

7:10:14minimum reject this agreement and wait

7:10:16until new members of this council are

7:10:17brought on rather than entering into

7:10:19this type of agreement right now. And in

7:10:20the meantime, hear the concerns of your

7:10:22constituents. Thank you so much.

7:10:25Adam Blount, followed by Steve Mayfield.

7:10:31>> Good evening, Madame Mayor, City

7:10:33Manager, Council.

7:10:35>> I'm Sergeant Adam Blount and I'm with

7:10:37the Reno Police Department traffic

7:10:39division. My team handles all fatal

7:10:42vehicle crashes within the city. I want

7:10:44to take you back to 2023 when I took

7:10:46over in traffic. My first fatal vehicle

7:10:49crash was a female in her 30s. She was

7:10:52crossing North McCarron and was struck

7:10:55by a vehicle. This was witnessed by an

7:10:58uninvolved party who called the police.

7:11:01This is the information we received. I

7:11:04believe it was a truck. That's all we

7:11:06had to go on.

7:11:08Vehicle evidence left on scene led us to

7:11:11find that it was a a Chevy. Still

7:11:13believing it was a truck. We checked

7:11:15ALPR with no hits.

7:11:18To date, we haven't been able to tell

7:11:20her family who killed their daughter.

7:11:24Fast forward to this morning. With this

7:11:27technology in place, my detectives

7:11:30received a crash on Sunday of a couple

7:11:34that was filling their uh tires with air

7:11:36on the side of the road. They were hit

7:11:38by a driver. Again, very limited vehicle

7:11:41information. With the use of ALPR, they

7:11:44were able to track that vehicle. They

7:11:46contacted the owner and got a confession

7:11:49this afternoon from the driver of that

7:11:51vehicle, and that person is in custody.

7:11:54So, with that, that's where AOP cameras

7:11:58come into play. Investigators are able

7:12:00to look for a vehicle matching in the

7:12:02description and greatly enhance our

7:12:04chances locating the vehicle quickly.

7:12:07With the use of these cameras, locating

7:12:09a vehicle involved in hit and run

7:12:10crashes could take months or without,

7:12:13excuse me, could take months or may

7:12:15never happen. Due to the time-sensitive

7:12:18nature of evidence, the longer it takes

7:12:20to find a vehicle, the greater risk to

7:12:22evidence being lost or destroyed. These

7:12:25types of investigation take months to

7:12:27put together, even when there's no

7:12:29hiccups or delays. As we wait for things

7:12:31like data reports on cell phones, uh the

7:12:34vehicle and toxicology, the first thing

7:12:36we need is that vehicle.

7:12:39Our goal is to find the vehicle

7:12:41involved, interview the owner or the

7:12:43driver of the vehicle, put together a

7:12:45clear report of what caused the crash,

7:12:47and if there's a prosecutable violation,

7:12:51be able to present that to the city

7:12:52attorneys or district attorney's office

7:12:54in the clearest manner possible.

7:12:57Being able to say where a vehicle was

7:12:58prior, during, and after a crash helps

7:13:02us do that.

7:13:06The traffic division wants to bring

7:13:08justice to the victim and closure to the

7:13:10family. Being able to provide evidence

7:13:12using drone footage, mapping of a scene,

7:13:15and ALPR information of a vehicle

7:13:17involved may help limit a family from

7:13:19having to go through a longer process

7:13:20for justice. With the availability of

7:13:23the Axon system, our investigators are

7:13:25quickly able to collect evidence that is

7:13:27identifiable and allows us uh allows the

7:13:31investigator to share the news that the

7:13:32vehicle and the driver has been

7:13:34identified just like today with that uh

7:13:38and overseeing.

7:13:41>> Thank you. Um and this officer is one of

7:13:43the nicest.

7:13:45I just have to say [laughter]

7:13:53>> good evening council. Steve Mayfield.

7:13:55I'm with the Reno Police Department. Uh

7:13:57I'm a sergeant uh in charge of our real

7:14:00time or real time information

7:14:02intelligence center as long as well as

7:14:03two other supervisors that are in there

7:14:05with us. Uh, I came here today just to

7:14:07talk about a case that's not a it's not

7:14:09a high-profile case, nothing like that,

7:14:12but rather it just demonstrates the

7:14:13day-to-day use that we use the system

7:14:15for and all these different technologies

7:14:16that we're asking you to approve. Um,

7:14:20this case started last Monday. It was a

7:14:23at the regional transportation committee

7:14:26uh commission uh building on at 200 East

7:14:29Street where a guy was asked just to

7:14:31leave the property. There's about six of

7:14:33them there, two of them together. One is

7:14:36asked or the whole group is asked to

7:14:38leave, but one of them decides to stick

7:14:39around and challenge the security.

7:14:41Ultimately, he ends up pulling up his

7:14:42shirt, displaying a firearm under a

7:14:44shirt, and then they call 911. Within

7:14:48about a minute and a half, the the

7:14:50drones are deployed and are on scene and

7:14:52can start following these individuals

7:14:54involved in this case. Uh for reference,

7:14:57the patrol response to that call was

7:14:59about 14 minutes before the first patrol

7:15:01officer got there in a marked black and

7:15:02white car. Um what this allowed was for

7:15:05us to follow the the folks away from

7:15:07there using the drones the drone video

7:15:10and then as well as bus video and video

7:15:12from the center because we do partner

7:15:14with the RTC through Fus and we do have

7:15:17access to their video. So that allows us

7:15:20immediate access to start grabbing

7:15:21photos of these individuals and pushing

7:15:23them out to the patrol officers that are

7:15:24responding to it.

7:15:25What ends up happening is they walk down

7:15:27the street. They get on a bus. We can

7:15:29see them on on the bus itself. They get

7:15:32off the bus about a mile down the road

7:15:35and start walking away. As they're

7:15:37walking away, they see the first patrol

7:15:39unit. This is now 14 minutes later

7:15:42approaching and the one who has the gun

7:15:44and and committed the crimes hands the

7:15:46gun off to another one. And he sticks it

7:15:49down in his waistband. We can see all

7:15:50that. We can pro we provide that to the

7:15:52officers that are responding which

7:15:53allows a them to respond more safely as

7:15:56well as the community and the other and

7:15:58the individuals involved. We know who's

7:15:59got what. We know what we're going up

7:16:01against, what we're dealing with.

7:16:03Ultimately, they're able to get these

7:16:04guys in the incident without any problem

7:16:07um and take them into custody. We're

7:16:09able to identify both people involved

7:16:11and take both of them into custody. It

7:16:13turns out in the end it's a BB gun. Um

7:16:16but neither here nor there. was

7:16:18displayed as a gun used with the intent

7:16:20to intimidate the people that were

7:16:22trying to just get them off the

7:16:23property. If this if we hadn't had these

7:16:26technologies, what would have happened

7:16:28was these folks would have been on their

7:16:29way. We would have probably never found

7:16:31them, likely never found them. The

7:16:32patrol officers would have gone a

7:16:33saturated immediate area where they were

7:16:35walking, not only to miss them now that

7:16:37they're a mile down the road, and then

7:16:40[clears throat]

7:16:40these folks would have been able to

7:16:42continue to act the way they were and

7:16:43intimidate other members of the

7:16:45community. So I think this just shows

7:16:48and this is just one of hundreds of

7:16:49cases that we could demonstrate where

7:16:51the technology has been used to solve

7:16:53the case immediately so that we don't

7:16:56tie up a ton of resources for hours

7:16:58trying to re research it.

7:17:00>> All right, thank you so much.

7:17:04>> And with that, we have no one else

7:17:06registered to speak on this item. We did

7:17:08receive se 79 written comments prior to

7:17:114 p.m. yesterday. They have been

7:17:12distributed as five letters in support,

7:17:1571 in opposition, and three of neutral

7:17:18or concern.

7:17:19>> Okay,

7:17:22how's everyone doing?

7:17:25I should make everyone get up and

7:17:26stretch for a minute.

7:17:30All right. Um, okay.

7:17:34We are now going to bring it back to the

7:17:36body and get into some um discussion.

7:17:39So, I'm going to ask council members um

7:17:42if you have any questions for our police

7:17:44chief and his team. Um

7:17:48this is the time to chime in. Uh I'm

7:17:52going to start to my right. Uh

7:17:54Councilman Taylor. Thank you, Madam

7:17:56Mayor. Um

7:17:58I I'll start by saying I I hear the

7:18:00concerns of privacy, trust, misuse,

7:18:04abuse, and power. I believe that we can

7:18:07and we will balance that with what you

7:18:09have brought forward. Um, I will

7:18:11probably need another round, but I will

7:18:13say that I stand by the men and the

7:18:15women of law enforcement. I stand by our

7:18:17police chief. I will be supporting this

7:18:20contract. I do have questions. Um,

7:18:23they're going to have to do with the

7:18:24audit and the process.

7:18:28I'm really disturbed

7:18:30um by the dismissiveness of the serious

7:18:34crimes that have been solved and

7:18:36continue to be solved.

7:18:39If you or your family member have been a

7:18:40victim of a crime or violent crime, you

7:18:42know that one is too much.

7:18:45And to say that we only solved six

7:18:47crimes,

7:18:49I think isn't really giving an accurate

7:18:52picture. Just this morning, we got a

7:18:54police report that says

7:18:58the police department arrested a

7:19:0035-year-old in connection with four

7:19:02separate sexual assault investigations

7:19:06involving incidents that occurred in

7:19:07downtown Reno.

7:19:11The result was a rest of collaborative

7:19:13investigation and the real-time

7:19:15intelligence center and using

7:19:17technology.

7:19:20I believe that this council

7:19:23will make sure that we are protecting

7:19:25the citizens

7:19:27with this contract.

7:19:30When we talk about an audit, what you

7:19:32had in your report, I would like to

7:19:33actually see a quarterly report, an

7:19:37audit, something by a third party

7:19:39independent outside of RPD.

7:19:43Um, I also wanted to talk a little bit

7:19:45about the process in your slide. A lot

7:19:48of the comments I heard um I think it

7:19:50was slide eight. I'm not sure which one

7:19:52it was, but it talked about there has to

7:19:54be a crime before this is it. The first

7:19:57thing that happens is a crime is

7:19:59committed.

7:20:00The next step is looking at the

7:20:02resources. It doesn't happen the other

7:20:04way around. Is that correct?

7:20:06>> Yes, ma'am. And I just want to thank Cy

7:20:08Salo for the record. Thank you for the

7:20:10question, ma'am. Uh, I think that's

7:20:12where a lot of the misnomer comes from,

7:20:14that there's this li there's this large

7:20:16surveillance database that exists that

7:20:18is prioritizing individuals. We don't

7:20:22know if you're not the identified party

7:20:26of a vehicle that we're searching for.

7:20:27If you're not a missing person, if

7:20:28you're not a stolen vehicle, if you're

7:20:30not a silver alert for an individual

7:20:32that walked away from their home or an

7:20:34Amber Alert, heaven forbid, for a child,

7:20:36if that plate isn't entered in the

7:20:37system, if there isn't a crime

7:20:38associated with it for a law enforcement

7:20:40function to do an inquiry, we don't see

7:20:43that data.

7:20:44>> Okay? And then I'll probably on my

7:20:45second round ask a little bit more about

7:20:46the audit process if that's something

7:20:48that we can put into place. But I'm

7:20:50interested in hearing my other

7:20:51colleagues. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

7:20:55Okay, I'm going to head over here.

7:20:57Councilman Door, I see your light on.

7:20:58>> Yeah. Um, thank you. Um, wow. We've had

7:21:02hours of conversation from you, Chief,

7:21:05and then from the public. And, um, it's

7:21:09raised a lot of questions for me and

7:21:12what I'm concerned about is the lateness

7:21:14of the hour and our ability to process

7:21:16and a certain level of exhaustion over

7:21:19the topic. And it's raised within me. I

7:21:22have here at least 12 questions. I don't

7:21:24really think they'd be welcomed by the

7:21:25whole body at this moment in time. Uh

7:21:28they range from questions about just

7:21:31data uh the co cost of our current flock

7:21:34agreement. I've heard about the cost of

7:21:36the new agreement. I don't know the

7:21:37difference. They cover different things.

7:21:40Um I've heard different numbers of the

7:21:42equipment such as we have 29 cameras

7:21:44installed but we could install 36 but

7:21:47the new contract has 50. I've heard that

7:21:50um we have four drones, but the new

7:21:53contract has 12. Um and there's probably

7:21:56lots of numbers that I don't know. Um

7:21:59the things and I could go on. I mean,

7:22:01I've heard about tasers on drones,

7:22:03whether those would right, but it's

7:22:06still part of Axon, right? I've heard

7:22:08about um you know there's discussion

7:22:10about public records requests but it's

7:22:14already difficult for the public to get

7:22:16public records requests from the police

7:22:18never mind about these uses and I'm

7:22:21that's going to be a question I have um

7:22:24the we've [snorts] heard about judges

7:22:27finding that uh there's some instances

7:22:30where these have been declared illegal

7:22:32based on a fourth amendment. I don't

7:22:34know if that's one judge, a judge in

7:22:36Nevada. I I don't know enough about it.

7:22:39Um I've heard that it reduces crime or

7:22:42maybe it helps us uh arrest people

7:22:45quicker and have better results, you

7:22:47know, in court when we prosecute those

7:22:49cases, which I tend to probably agree

7:22:51with. Um, I wondered if we have

7:22:55disciplined anyone so far in our police

7:22:57department about misuse of technology

7:23:00generally, not necessarily Axon or

7:23:02ALPRs.

7:23:04Um, I know that, you know, it was

7:23:06already stated by folks that all of us

7:23:09were imperfect human beings and mistakes

7:23:11happen. Uh, there's bad actors in every

7:23:14profession. We heard that from some

7:23:15police officers and I agree that that is

7:23:18true. So, we just have to have proper

7:23:20safeguards. Um, and I'm unclear

7:23:24um I was unclear when we had the

7:23:26discussion of the victim advocates

7:23:28whether it was unclear to me whether the

7:23:31tech tools were used to solve these. So

7:23:33I have a variety I I wanted to share my

7:23:35personal perspective but also my council

7:23:37perspective. As a person a person that

7:23:40is not wearing a city council hat I do

7:23:43not want surveillance. Okay. I just I

7:23:45don't want to live in that kind of

7:23:46community where it's assumed that we got

7:23:48to watch everybody because they might be

7:23:50guilty of something. So that's like the

7:23:53inverse where we're watching people to

7:23:54solve a crime. In this case, we're

7:23:56watching people to make sure that it's

7:23:59almost like guilty until proven

7:24:01innocent.

7:24:02>> Um and I don't know, Madam Mayor, should

7:24:04I just go on? Please.

7:24:05>> Um so I have researched has Axon ever

7:24:10been accused of misuse of their

7:24:11equipment? And yes, uh, misuse of

7:24:14tasers, body cam manipulation, failure

7:24:16to record, um, internal corporation

7:24:20misuse, things like that. But I I am not

7:24:22a judge of Axon. I I am not in a

7:24:25position to know whether they're good

7:24:26company, bad company. We we already

7:24:28discussed that everyone makes mistakes

7:24:31and there there are issues. So that's

7:24:33why since we began this conversation

7:24:36going back a year and a half, I have

7:24:37asked for development of policies. The

7:24:39very day that I voted yes to do the

7:24:42flock cameras, it was about a year and a

7:24:44half ago, I said, I'm going to say yes.

7:24:46I want to support our police. And I

7:24:48think every single council member is in

7:24:50that position. And I said that to

7:24:52Lieutenant Connley as well, that we are

7:24:55very supportive of our police. However,

7:24:58that doesn't mean we support every

7:24:59single thing that you do or every single

7:25:01idea. And that is why I've asked for a

7:25:04preliminary conversation about the

7:25:06policies. When this came on our agenda,

7:25:08I was like surprised. I'm like,

7:25:10"Somebody has already decided that we're

7:25:13doing away with flock." And I I thought

7:25:15about posting, but I was cautious. And I

7:25:17think I was right to be cautious because

7:25:20um I then found out it just said to be

7:25:22replaced with another provider. I

7:25:24wondered, well, who is that? What's

7:25:26their track record? And that kind of

7:25:27thing. I didn't want to jump to

7:25:28conclusions. So where I want to just end

7:25:31this first public comment or that my

7:25:33first council comment is I also brought

7:25:35up to Lieutenant Connley that in general

7:25:38we have a challenge in front of us and

7:25:40that is that too many people do not

7:25:42trust our police. I don't care if it's

7:25:45um here and now and it's based on things

7:25:47that happened before. We're in a

7:25:49process, it seems like we always will

7:25:51be, of rebuilding or cementing trust in

7:25:54our police. And unfortunately,

7:25:57things that have happened in the last

7:25:58six months, last year, have exacerbated

7:26:01that problem. And so, we're asking

7:26:02people to trust us and allow us to

7:26:05implement this newer technology. And I

7:26:08guess to go forward, what I would like

7:26:10to see is that if we do move forward,

7:26:13um, I did a lot of research since the

7:26:16one week. Council member, I'm going to

7:26:17cut you off. Yeah, that's okay. Second.

7:26:19Okay. And then I'm going to go to

7:26:21Councilwoman Eert.

7:26:22>> I did a lot of research in this last

7:26:24week. I found as many unanswered

7:26:26questions, but I did find

7:26:27recommendations on policies that are not

7:26:29included in our backup material, and I

7:26:32would love to see some if we move

7:26:34forward, additional policies put in

7:26:36place. So, I'll leave it at that. Thank

7:26:37you.

7:26:38>> Okay. Thank you so much, Councilwoman

7:26:40Eber. I see your hand up.

7:26:45>> Yeah. Um, I did have some questions. Um,

7:26:48just bear with me one second here. I

7:26:50have my notes. Um,

7:26:54one of them being, um, the retention

7:27:00policy on the recordings.

7:27:03Um

7:27:07what

7:27:10what are the retention policy laws

7:27:12regarding recordings versus like um

7:27:16emails and things like that? Is it the

7:27:18same time period?

7:27:22>> Thank you for the question and Corey

7:27:23Sulfrino. For the record, I don't know

7:27:25what email you would have to talk to

7:27:27internet uh services on that. I'm I'm

7:27:29not sure what the retention period for

7:27:30emails would be, but as far as our data

7:27:33is concerned, if it's not treated as

7:27:35evidence, evidence is uh essentially

7:27:38categorized based upon Nevada Revised

7:27:40statute and what the retention

7:27:41requirements are for certain crimes. Uh

7:27:44as far as any unprocessed data, it is

7:27:47held for 30 days and then it is gone.

7:27:50>> Okay. Um and then

7:27:54uh

7:27:57what would happen if

7:28:00um

7:28:03if the state outlaws ALPS or I'm sorry

7:28:07um ALPS um cameras and um

7:28:13and then we can't use them and we've

7:28:16signed a contract. What would happen in

7:28:17in that situation? Then we would do a

7:28:20contract amendment with our current

7:28:21vendor indicating that it was now

7:28:23against the law. I'm sorry, Cory

7:28:25Sulfrino for the record.

7:28:26>> So would [snorts] it just turn into just

7:28:28the body cameras and the um

7:28:32uh dash cams?

7:28:34>> Similar to what we're doing here today,

7:28:36we we currently have an existing

7:28:38contract with Axon. We currently have

7:28:40this technology through various vendors.

7:28:42Uh the body cameras are statutoily

7:28:45mandated. They would need to require um

7:28:48they would need to continue in

7:28:49perpetuity. We would have to do an

7:28:50amendment to this const to this const to

7:28:53this contract. I'm getting very

7:28:54theatrical today with the constitution.

7:28:56Uh [laughter]

7:28:57we would have to do an amendment as we

7:28:59are doing here today uh to modify the

7:29:02contract based upon Nevada indicating if

7:29:04they were to vote something like that

7:29:06and the governor signs it that they are

7:29:08now an illegal form of technology that

7:29:10we could no longer use.

7:29:12>> Okay. Okay. So, would that also

7:29:15potentially change the um cost of the

7:29:19contract?

7:29:21>> It would change the cost of the

7:29:22contract. Yes, ma'am. And then we would

7:29:24have to look at how that affects our

7:29:25officer safety package with the grouping

7:29:27deals that we have and what that would

7:29:29ultimately mean. It would it would open

7:29:31up the contract on a year-to-year basis.

7:29:33What we've done right here with this

7:29:35extension is we've locked in our price

7:29:37for eight years.

7:29:38>> We have opportunities to terminate our

7:29:41contract. uh with 30 days notice on

7:29:44either side. There's actual uh if you

7:29:46look at the asterric on this slide, I'm

7:29:47not sure if you're watching online,

7:29:48ma'am, but the city may end this

7:29:50agreement in any year by choosing not to

7:29:51fund it or if Axon fails to meet its

7:29:53contractual obligations. Additionally,

7:29:55if either party were choosing to notify

7:29:58and terminate within 30 days. So, we

7:30:00have opportunities. What this does is it

7:30:03leverages the city's buying power. It

7:30:04leverages our return on investment. It

7:30:07puts the officer safety package to great

7:30:08use and it gives us over a 51% below

7:30:11list price on all of the technology at

7:30:13our disposal. If we were to

7:30:16>> I'm so sorry. Uh the the slide wasn't

7:30:19actually showing um when you were uh

7:30:22going over that part. Is it possible for

7:30:24the clerk to show that?

7:30:27>> Yes, we're working on it.

7:30:28>> Okay. Thank you.

7:30:31So it gives us the opportunity and the

7:30:33flexibility ma'am to leverage our buying

7:30:36power and yeah grouping power and then

7:30:39we would ultimately have to go into a

7:30:41another amendment if we were going to e

7:30:44terminate services or amend moving

7:30:46further if we were going for different

7:30:47technology. This locks us in and doesn't

7:30:51uh allow the opportunity for additional

7:30:53inflation to occur over the course of

7:30:54the next eight years.

7:30:56>> Okay. And how if we decided to go a

7:30:59different route, how many officers could

7:31:02we potentially employ for this amount of

7:31:05money?

7:31:08>> An officer routine salary with salary

7:31:10and benefits is approximately $133,000

7:31:14per person, I believe. I think that

7:31:15number is a little bit low.

7:31:18I would have to look at salary and

7:31:20benefits. It's been a while since I did

7:31:22the my project budget proposal.

7:31:24>> Okay. Um,

7:31:27I'm not sure. I can't hear if any timers

7:31:29gone off. I do have more questions, but

7:31:31I don't want to go over.

7:31:33>> Okay. Uh, Councilwoman, you're 145, so

7:31:37I'll cut you off in 10 seconds.

7:31:40>> Yeah. So, I do I do like the um kind of

7:31:45the automated redacting of things, but

7:31:49uh I I really am not a fan of the um

7:31:54surveillance for the the just in case. I

7:31:57do like having body cams and uh cameras

7:32:02on on the police vehicles, but I just am

7:32:05not comfortable um keeping tabs on on

7:32:10people coming and going. And I don't

7:32:13know if

7:32:16if it's if the cost is worth the

7:32:21benefit, you know, the loss of privacy

7:32:23is worth that. like I I don't know

7:32:27statistically how many crimes are being

7:32:30solved by keeping tabs on everybody's

7:32:33license plate. And um you know, we've

7:32:36talked about um registration, people not

7:32:39paying a registration, driving without

7:32:41insurance or license plates. And um

7:32:44that's a problem in in all of the city

7:32:46of Reno. I do understand it's it's

7:32:49likely because um not registration was

7:32:53um changed to a a fine um so people just

7:32:58are [snorts] willing to pay the fine

7:33:00rather than the registration if they get

7:33:02a ticket. But um if we're not going to

7:33:05use

7:33:07this system to actually enforce some of

7:33:11our rules and we're just going to keep

7:33:13this data for whatever amount of time.

7:33:16I'm just not comfortable with that.

7:33:18>> Okay, Councilman, I'm gonna I'm gonna

7:33:20cut you off.

7:33:21>> Okay,

7:33:22>> I'll come right back to you, though,

7:33:24because we're at 3:30 over. So, I'll

7:33:26come back to you. Just hold on to that.

7:33:28>> Oh, I didn't realize. I thought you were

7:33:29telling me I had a minute and 20 left.

7:33:31Thank you.

7:33:32>> Okay. It's It's all good. It's fine.

7:33:34I'll come back to you though. Uh but I

7:33:36have green lights over to my right, so I

7:33:38want to make sure um that we get your

7:33:41comments. Go ahead, Councilman Anderson.

7:33:43>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Thank you,

7:33:44Chief, for the presentation today. Um, I

7:33:48said this once before. I've said it in

7:33:50every one of the conversations that I've

7:33:52had with people in the public, people in

7:33:54my family

7:33:56about

7:33:58not only body cameras, incar cameras,

7:34:03automatic license plate readers. This is

7:34:06about evidence. It's about evidence. If

7:34:09a crime has been committed against

7:34:11anybody in the community, the very first

7:34:14question anyone that describes to you

7:34:16[clears throat]

7:34:16that a crime that has been committed

7:34:18against them is, "Were there cameras? Do

7:34:21you have evidence?" So, this isn't a

7:34:25technology that is in search of stalking

7:34:29the public. This is a technology that is

7:34:32used to provide evidence when a crime

7:34:35has been committed or solve a crime.

7:34:37Correct. Yes, ma'am.

7:34:38>> Okay. So, as it relates to the auditing,

7:34:44I personally don't think that two times

7:34:46a year is enough for auditing. I wanted

7:34:48to ask you, Chief, um, say, you know,

7:34:52the automatic pinging, somebody has run

7:34:54a license plate 30 times in the city of

7:34:57Reno.

7:34:58Are we not going to know about that for

7:35:00six months if we're only auditing it two

7:35:02times a year or are there safeguards in

7:35:04place that somebody within the

7:35:05department will be pinged like we have a

7:35:08problem over here?

7:35:09>> So thank you for the question ma'am Cory

7:35:11Sulfrino for the record. I think that's

7:35:13important to distinguish right it's that

7:35:14building that community trust and not

7:35:16allowing something to happen for 6

7:35:18months before we took action because our

7:35:19audit date wasn't up. So what Axon is

7:35:22doing is building in additional

7:35:23safeguards or andor triggers/ alerts for

7:35:26people that are having increases in

7:35:28their frequency searches. So even if

7:35:31it's documented, even if it's

7:35:33categorized, if somebody went from 12

7:35:35searches a month to 34, that would send

7:35:38an alert to the administrator, the

7:35:40program administrator. If there was a

7:35:43discrepancy in the case number was

7:35:45averted, it wouldn't allow you to search

7:35:46for that data. So, if there was a case

7:35:48number arbitrarily, let's just say RPD

7:35:512026 1 2 3 4, right? To try to bypass

7:35:55some of the safeguards that we've put in

7:35:56there, that would send an additional

7:35:58alert. So, we have that opportunity. I

7:36:00don't have a lot of experience with

7:36:01hiring an an outside auditing firm.

7:36:04Obviously, we've hired and contracted

7:36:05with consulting groups from across this

7:36:07country to do staffing studies, to do

7:36:09similar types of internal looks within

7:36:11our department for efficiencies and

7:36:13procedures. I would be willing to look

7:36:15at that to have another set of eyes look

7:36:16at that. I just don't have any data to

7:36:18present to this board today of what that

7:36:20looks like.

7:36:21>> Okay. Thank you. Um

7:36:26the policy I mean I've said it another

7:36:29time. You have all but formidable tools.

7:36:33There's nothing that a police officer is

7:36:35walking around with on their body that

7:36:37is going to make somebody's day easier

7:36:39or more gentle. If you have to pull a

7:36:41tool out of your tool belt, it's because

7:36:44somebody is breaking the law and you

7:36:45need to either disarm or, you know,

7:36:48settle them down. Let's just say keep

7:36:49the peace. The policies and procedures

7:36:53are on our shoulders and your shoulders,

7:36:56chief. And I've had this conversation

7:36:58with you. I've asked you to

7:37:03consider every one of the people that is

7:37:05being pulled over or being investigated

7:37:07as your own daughter or my own son and

7:37:11hire the police officers in the

7:37:13department that you know will treat your

7:37:15daughter or my son with the utmost

7:37:17respect and the to the letter of the law

7:37:20and then hold them accountable. I

7:37:22believe that you will do that. I believe

7:37:24in you and I believe in our department.

7:37:26I have one question.

7:37:28If anyone in our department is found to

7:37:33be misusing this tool, how are we going

7:37:35to know about it?

7:37:38>> That's a great question. Uh I think

7:37:40criminally, obviously, if something were

7:37:41to happen out of a criminal nature and

7:37:43that there would be an uh an

7:37:44administrative investigation, the

7:37:45individual would be placed on

7:37:46administrative leave as I talked about

7:37:48previously and that a crime would be

7:37:50reported, right? And then that would be

7:37:52investigated. previous to um any

7:37:56administrative investigation. There's

7:37:57certain peace officers bill of rights

7:37:59inherited through our Nevada Revised

7:38:01Statutes in 289 that wouldn't allow for

7:38:04me to conduct an administrative

7:38:06interview until the criminal

7:38:07investigation had been completed. As we

7:38:09move through that administrative

7:38:10investigation, looking at the totality

7:38:12of the circumstances, was it sustained?

7:38:14Was it was it not founded? Was it

7:38:16unfounded? Uh we would have to look at

7:38:18the totality of the circumstances to

7:38:20determine what their discipline is. We

7:38:22have certain inalable rights depending

7:38:24upon what the misuse was. Right. I mean,

7:38:25I think we've explained some cases, none

7:38:27of which have happened here, but have

7:38:29been alleged to have occurred across the

7:38:31country where there's a maybe ex who's

7:38:34looking to see where their significant

7:38:36other may be or where they're at. Those

7:38:39types of misuses. I think the great

7:38:41thing about our internal affairs

7:38:42division is we have the opportunity in

7:38:44conjunction with our command staff to

7:38:46look at those cases and to see the

7:38:48severity of them to determine is this a

7:38:50terminable offense? Is this a

7:38:52suspension? Is this a demotion? We have

7:38:55that authority to look at those cases on

7:38:57a case-byase basis and make that

7:38:59determination and negotiate that through

7:39:01the process. There's contractual

7:39:04obligations that we have to meet while

7:39:05we go through that because there is a

7:39:07collective bargaining unit agreement

7:39:08that works with all of the respective

7:39:10associations and members represented by

7:39:12that contract and we have to respect

7:39:14that process. It doesn't give me the

7:39:16ability to negate the process, but we

7:39:19will manifest that process. We will move

7:39:21it forward and we will get rid of the

7:39:23bad actors because I do listen to

7:39:24everybody that has come up here today. I

7:39:26do have the opportunity to work with a

7:39:28lot of these individuals in Carson City

7:39:30when they give public testimony and I I

7:39:31recognize their time and their

7:39:32commitment and their passion for this

7:39:34cause. So when Lieutenant Brow came up

7:39:36and talked to this council about what

7:39:39we're trying to accomplish with this

7:39:41policy, we're trying to address

7:39:42everyone's concerns. That's how

7:39:43passionate we believe in this

7:39:45technology. That's how passionate we

7:39:47believe in preventing future

7:39:49victimology. That's how passionate we

7:39:51are about bringing resolve to victims of

7:39:53crime. And I know it was said

7:39:55anecdotally and I know it wasn't said as

7:39:57insulting towards me. U but the fact

7:40:00that people think the five cases that we

7:40:01highlighted are the only five cases that

7:40:03we've used is absolutely insulting.

7:40:06Those were ones that we were trying to

7:40:07highlight to explain how the technology

7:40:09is used across different crimes against

7:40:11different regions. It's not that the

7:40:13Reno Police Department took 2008 calls

7:40:15for service and we solved five crimes

7:40:16for technology. We solved thousands. And

7:40:19with our new um RMS system that's coming

7:40:22to bear through Hexagon and its rebrand

7:40:25and even our own internal processing

7:40:27systems, Lieutenant Colony and I have

7:40:29failed you in the sense that we don't

7:40:30document to a degree that uh for

7:40:33tracking moving forward about how many

7:40:35times our technology is solving crimes,

7:40:37period. Crimes that wouldn't have been

7:40:39solved before. Maybe they assisted and

7:40:41we would have ultimately gotten there.

7:40:42But specific to what uh Councilwoman

7:40:44Taylor addressed this morning, when we

7:40:46were able to arrest a serial sexual

7:40:48assault subject who had four different

7:40:50cases in downtown Reno over the course

7:40:52of two weeks, we were able to prevent

7:40:54another future victimology by using the

7:40:56use of AOPR data. Period. Without that,

7:40:59we don't catch him yesterday. How many

7:41:02more times does it happen before a

7:41:03victim has the courage to come forward

7:41:05to call us or we're in the right place

7:41:06at the right time to be able to do that?

7:41:08I don't know that you can put a price

7:41:09tag on that, but because I am

7:41:11responsible for the city's [snorts]

7:41:12budget and for the police department's

7:41:14budget and coming at at or under budget,

7:41:16I'm mindful of that. This is the next

7:41:18great generational thing in law

7:41:19enforcement. I've been around for 27

7:41:22years this year and this is by far the

7:41:25most effective mode when used with the

7:41:28proper guard rails when addressed the

7:41:30public's concerns in here about how it

7:41:32is used because it isn't this big Google

7:41:34search where I wish that people could

7:41:37understand what the day in the life of

7:41:38an officer or what the day in the life

7:41:40of a person working in the real time

7:41:42intelligence center looks like. We don't

7:41:44have time to pick out people and follow

7:41:46them throughout their day. If there's no

7:41:48reason, if there's no crime that's been

7:41:50reported, if they're not part of a

7:41:51subject where their vehicle was seen at

7:41:53the scene of a crime, that doesn't

7:41:56trigger an investigatory search or lead

7:41:58for us. It doesn't amount to probable

7:41:59cause. It doesn't amount to illegal

7:42:01arrests. Those might be things that are

7:42:03happening in other jurisdictions. It's

7:42:04an investigatory tool here. And I want

7:42:07to make sure that the public really

7:42:08understands how passionate we feel about

7:42:10this and how passionate we want to treat

7:42:11this because I don't want it misused

7:42:13because if it's not moving forward, our

7:42:15communities collectively will be less

7:42:17safe. That's why we pulled in resources

7:42:19from Nevada Sheriff's and Chiefs. That's

7:42:21why we pulled in resources from IAP.

7:42:23That's why we sat down with the city

7:42:25attorney's office, all of our labor

7:42:27groups, all of our rank and file and go,

7:42:29how can we bring a model policy forward

7:42:31that prevents this technology from

7:42:33misuse and holds our people accountable?

7:42:35I will tell this council unequivocally

7:42:37that nobody hates a bad cop more than a

7:42:39good cop. And when somebody does it

7:42:41outside our jurisdiction, let alone in

7:42:43our own jurisdiction, that takes away

7:42:45tools that help bring

7:42:48compassion back to victims and closure

7:42:50to victims and a sense of restorative

7:42:53justice. Those are the types of things

7:42:54that we want to bring it in. So, I'm I'm

7:42:57a passionate I'm appreciative of

7:42:58everybody who came here tonight to talk

7:43:00about it because these are difficult

7:43:01conversations

7:43:03and I want to make sure that we're doing

7:43:04it right.

7:43:07>> All right. Thank you very much. Um, Vice

7:43:10Mayor Martinez,

7:43:12>> thanks so much, Madame Mayor, and thank

7:43:14you, Chief, for the presentation,

7:43:15everybody that showed up today and all

7:43:16my colleagues for the questions that

7:43:18have been asked so far. Um, I've had a

7:43:21few questions and concerns throughout my

7:43:23time in the briefings that I've had with

7:43:24you and some of the representatives from

7:43:26Axon. And so I want to make sure we just

7:43:28have that conversation um, also on the

7:43:30record and make sure that we're getting

7:43:32all of our questions answered. I think

7:43:34the first one is over to our city

7:43:35manager if I can. A lot of the

7:43:38necessities to implement this new

7:43:40technology require

7:43:42access to our information technology

7:43:45systems within the city. And I just

7:43:47wanted to see if you can tell us who the

7:43:49point of contact is within the city of

7:43:52Reno for information technology for

7:43:54Axon. I know Mr. Mr. Gerlock, I think is

7:43:57listed as a point of contact for the

7:43:58contract, but I wanted to see if you

7:44:00could tell me who's responsible on the

7:44:02IT side to ensuring that the city of

7:44:05Reno's policies are being implemented

7:44:07with this new technology.

7:44:09>> Well, Angela Phelps, sorry, I'm losing

7:44:10my voice. Angela Phelps with our

7:44:13director of IT would be our overarching

7:44:17person who in it who would be

7:44:19responsible for that.

7:44:21>> Great. Sorry. I'm sorry you're losing

7:44:22[clears throat] your voice. Um, but I

7:44:24appreciate the the clarification on

7:44:27that. Um, and I think I'll jump and echo

7:44:29some of the things that my colleagues

7:44:31have said in ensuring that the auditing

7:44:33process includes a third party. Um, and

7:44:36making sure that we're getting any

7:44:40irregularities that may be experienced

7:44:42by any end users of this system that are

7:44:45reported and

7:44:47conveyed to our public um, on an on a

7:44:50quarterly basis would be my preference.

7:44:53Um, but I wanted to sort of give you

7:44:56some time to

7:44:58think about that or respond to that if

7:45:00you have any comments on it. And then

7:45:01the other question that I had, and you

7:45:04can take up the rest of my time if you'd

7:45:05like to answer these two, is um what uh

7:45:10impacts would happen if the council

7:45:13decided to remove the Axon outpost

7:45:18cameras while maybe including the rest

7:45:20of the technology that is in this

7:45:22agreement.

7:45:24>> Cory Salrano for the record. Thank you,

7:45:26Council Member Martinez, for the for the

7:45:28question. uh first off to talk about the

7:45:30audits. That's how much I believe in

7:45:32this technology is we'd be willing to

7:45:35look at those additional opportunities

7:45:37for transparency. Uh because to the

7:45:40gentleman's point, I did have the

7:45:41opportunity to be the MC at the NAACP

7:45:44gala this weekend and I did talk about

7:45:46it. I hate the word transparency because

7:45:47I think people misuse it. I think people

7:45:49say it and don't believe it. So if

7:45:51that's what it takes to give that olive

7:45:53branch to get the community support

7:45:55back, that's something I'm willing to

7:45:56look at. I need to be able to understand

7:45:58who that third party entity is because

7:46:00this is so new. I don't know that we

7:46:03would be able to identify a person to

7:46:05meet that quarterly to start like

7:46:07tomorrow. Uh but that's absolutely

7:46:09something that I will investigate and

7:46:10that I will look back and and bring to

7:46:11the council. Currently that internal

7:46:13audit is conducted twice annually based

7:46:15upon the tiered of the service and I

7:46:17apologize. I will wrap up my comments.

7:46:19Um, additionally,

7:46:23I don't know what that contract looks

7:46:24like if they remove this because we have

7:46:26been so successful because we have been

7:46:28able to identify people of u violent

7:46:32crimes because we have been able to

7:46:33bring closure to victims. I don't know

7:46:35what that price tag looks like when we

7:46:37remove this from here. I can tell you

7:46:39monetarily it's $300,000 for the fixed

7:46:4214 ALPRS. It's part of the $15.1 million

7:46:46for the 36 current ones that we have

7:46:49within our existing contract that

7:46:51already authorized already out on the

7:46:52street that we're currently using with a

7:46:54previous vendor that we gave a notice of

7:46:57intent to last week that we're not going

7:46:58to extend our contract moving forward.

7:47:01that leveraged the city's buying power,

7:47:02that leveraged our ability to bring this

7:47:04contract before this board today and

7:47:06keep everything under one system from a

7:47:09vendor that has been treated as evidence

7:47:11from the get-go, from the inception that

7:47:14people uh Lieutenant Bout spoke to it

7:47:16when he started talking about people

7:47:17misusing criminal justice information

7:47:19systems.

7:47:20>> There's heavy pin of these. The people

7:47:22understand you can't just go in there

7:47:23and run anybody. You have to have a

7:47:24criminal justice purpose to be able to

7:47:26do that. There are safeguards in there.

7:47:27There audits that are conducted by the

7:47:29state routinely. They come up and they

7:47:31look at our compliance and people can

7:47:33have not just the users access removed

7:47:35for non-compliance, the entire

7:47:37department's uses pulled for

7:47:39non-compliance by the FBI. That's not

7:47:41something that I would stand before you

7:47:43and say that we weren't going to treat

7:47:45seriously. So, we treat this piece just

7:47:48like we do criminal justice information

7:47:49sharing to the highest standard for that

7:47:51single sign log in to make sure that

7:47:53it's not being misused. Uh, but as far

7:47:56as what the dollar amount looks like,

7:47:57sir, I'd have to talk to our vendor to

7:47:58see what that will look like if we

7:48:00remove that from the system. Uh, but I

7:48:02think that would be a mistake on our

7:48:04part.

7:48:09>> Um, I don't see any more green over

7:48:11here.

7:48:12>> No,

7:48:13>> you said you wanted to put more

7:48:15questions on.

7:48:16>> Oh, I'm I'm mad.

7:48:17>> All right, go right ahead.

7:48:18>> Okay. Thank you so much. Um, I do have

7:48:20some questions. I I will say just a few

7:48:22things at the start. Um I um think that

7:48:25the range of opinions on this topic are

7:48:29multiaceted. Right? We've seen um folks

7:48:31on one side of the um continuum oral

7:48:34spectrum because I don't want to

7:48:36identify anyone's political persuasion.

7:48:38I'm just saying on one side of it is ban

7:48:40all license plate readers. Right? On the

7:48:42other one other side of it is says use

7:48:44all technology. Right? And I do not find

7:48:47myself in either of those camps. Right?

7:48:49I am someone who believes that with

7:48:51reasonable balance and approach and

7:48:53control and with the right leadership

7:48:56that we can achieve what most people

7:48:58want across the entire spectrum which is

7:49:01they desire a safe community one in

7:49:03which we are able to all flourish and

7:49:06that people who become the victims of

7:49:08crimes are are find justice in that and

7:49:11so I I don't want to demonize either

7:49:13side of the the spectrum. Um I think

7:49:16some of the speakers today spent a lot

7:49:18of time doing that about people on the

7:49:19other side and then then what happens is

7:49:21people on the other side go back the

7:49:22other way. I think people can have

7:49:24reasonable conversations about it. I

7:49:26will reveal that over the last two years

7:49:28as we have been grappling with this

7:49:30issue as a city. Um and some of that

7:49:32predates you being here. I have spent

7:49:34hundreds of hours talking with people

7:49:36from other communities. Um our assembly

7:49:38member Selena Laru Hatch and I have had

7:49:41um some great conversations. Um, I've

7:49:43talked with police chiefs in other

7:49:44communities. I've read everything I can

7:49:46get my hands on. I've had conversations

7:49:48with the ACLU. I had a coffee with Mr.

7:49:51Abear this week. People can in

7:49:54reasonable good conscience disagree on

7:49:56things. And and the truth is um that's

7:49:58kind of the beauty of the US

7:49:59Constitution. It is a not a fixed

7:50:02document. It is a document that has a

7:50:05lot of changes over time based on

7:50:08application of it. It's a living

7:50:09breathing document. Um, I do not find

7:50:11persuasive like quoting Ben Franklin at

7:50:14me and saying that I should believe what

7:50:16Ben Franklin believed before we had

7:50:17ALPRs. I I just don't find that

7:50:19persuasive. I'm a lawyer of 30 years and

7:50:22in those 30 years I of course have had

7:50:23to go to law school and read all the

7:50:26cases about um, you know, wiretapping

7:50:29and surveillance by airplanes. And every

7:50:31time a surveillance modality has

7:50:34changed, we have these conversations and

7:50:37we can do that with grace. I think um I

7:50:39want to ask a couple of questions. The

7:50:41first one is with regard to license

7:50:44plate readers specifically. They were

7:50:45developed in 1976.

7:50:48I I not well you were probably born just

7:50:50somewhere near there but nonetheless

7:50:52>> a good year sir. I just turned 50. So

7:50:54>> I I I know the answer to that part of

7:50:56it. Um tell me this with regard to uh

7:50:59license plate readers. How long have you

7:51:01personally been using them in the

7:51:03practice of um law enforcement? Uh

7:51:06personally I've known of our use uh when

7:51:09I was with my previous employer since

7:51:112001.

7:51:12>> Okay. So 25 years um that you have been

7:51:15using some version of it. Now the the

7:51:18what's happened is we are now dealing

7:51:20with the AI data center boon and a lot

7:51:23of these people who are here today were

7:51:24also folks who came and opposed data

7:51:26centers. Right. And so it's the layering

7:51:29on of a general distrust in the system

7:51:31that's been fermented by what I think is

7:51:34an authoritarian um administration that

7:51:37exists in Washington DC. It's the pains

7:51:39that we've felt as ICE has raided our

7:51:42communities and murdered people. Um it

7:51:44is the pain that happens when people do

7:51:46not trust as Miss Der said some element

7:51:49of law enforcement. I will tell you that

7:51:51I have a great deal of trust for the men

7:51:53and women of Reno Police Department. I

7:51:55feel um very confident in their ability

7:51:58to serve and protect and that every day

7:52:00they get in um their car and leave their

7:52:03homes not knowing if they'll come back.

7:52:05Right? So when someone stands in front

7:52:06of me and says they have 25 years of

7:52:08history of using license plate readers

7:52:10now we're just asking what changes and

7:52:12advancement in technologies matter. Um

7:52:15in your 25 years have you seen an abuse

7:52:17of license plate readers by a colleague

7:52:20another agency? just tell me about your

7:52:23lived experience as the police chief

7:52:26that we have hired to represent this

7:52:27department.

7:52:28>> Yes, sir. Uh I've obviously been your

7:52:30interimm and permanent police chief

7:52:32since March 9th of this year, so going

7:52:35on seven months now in my previous 26

7:52:37years at my other employer. Uh I've

7:52:40never identified a misuse that I'm aware

7:52:43of. And I'm belong to the Nevada

7:52:44Sheriff's and Chiefs Association. I've

7:52:46been a member since 2015. Uh, I've

7:52:49worked collectively with Las Vegas Metro

7:52:51PD and their government affairs director

7:52:52and their under sheriff uh, collectively

7:52:55across the state since 2015. I've been

7:52:57extensively involved in government

7:52:58affairs. We premiately have been used

7:53:01this technology when it first started. A

7:53:03lot of the ALPRs were purchased with

7:53:05money to fight terrorism after the 911

7:53:08attacks. We got a lot of money that were

7:53:10dedicated. Uh, you used to see them. In

7:53:12fact, I remember even when I wasn't with

7:53:13the Reno Police Department, we had ALPRs

7:53:16on a Chevy Luminina driving through

7:53:17Meadowwood Mall looking for missing

7:53:19persons, looking for stolen vehicles as

7:53:21part of that hot list. So, while I don't

7:53:23know the definitive date of which ALPR

7:53:25technology introduced itself into the

7:53:27Reno Police Department, I know that it's

7:53:29been here and a lot of it was purchased

7:53:30with federal funds since right after

7:53:312001 and 911 to fight the global war on

7:53:34terror. Uh, [snorts] additionally, uh, I

7:53:37have no documented misuse cases in the

7:53:39state that I'm aware of. Now, I'm not

7:53:41saying that that is absolute. That's

7:53:43just my personal knowledge and what I've

7:53:45been aware of. But in 25 years, most of

7:53:48these have been used for specialty

7:53:50teams. They've been used to fight human

7:53:52trafficking. They've been used to fight

7:53:55uh high-intensity drug trafficking area

7:53:57through a lot of our different teams to

7:53:59make sure that drugs and issues coming

7:54:02into our community were identified and

7:54:04that those people uh were brought to

7:54:07justice. I have not had an opportunity

7:54:10to uh expand upon that. That's just my

7:54:12limited knowledge. And even in 2001, I

7:54:15wasn't in those roles. I didn't get into

7:54:16those roles where I was using them as

7:54:18part of my daily duties and

7:54:20responsibilities until 2010 when I was

7:54:22part of a formal task force.

7:54:24>> Well, look, I'll I'll end my time by

7:54:26saying two things. One is that I have

7:54:28essentially six things that I think are

7:54:30important. Um, they may be because I'm a

7:54:33lawyer and um because I look at

7:54:35contracts differently than maybe a

7:54:37police chief does. And what I will say

7:54:39to you is the same thing I said to you

7:54:41when we were looking at hiring you. I

7:54:43will not substitute my judgment for

7:54:44yours. I am not a police officer. I do

7:54:47not run into the firefight when it

7:54:50happens. Right? That's what the men and

7:54:52women of Reno Police Department do. And

7:54:54similarly, it would be no different if I

7:54:56asked Miss Der a question about water.

7:54:57Right? I believe she's an expert on the

7:54:59subject. I believe you're an expert on

7:55:00the subject of policing. What I want to

7:55:02do is see if there are things about this

7:55:04and I've heard some comments from my

7:55:06colleagues that may be concerns that are

7:55:09large concerns, things that will allow

7:55:12us to get into that middle place, which

7:55:14is a balance between people who wish to

7:55:16eliminate license plate readers and

7:55:18people who wish no restrictions on them.

7:55:20So, I'll save that for round two. You

7:55:21sir,

7:55:22>> thank you.

7:55:24>> Um, councilor.

7:55:25>> Oh, you want me to

7:55:27>> and then I'll go to council neighbor.

7:55:28We'll do one round and then we'll

7:55:30>> Okay. All right. So, I asked a lot of

7:55:33questions, but could you at least answer

7:55:35one or two of them? So, my first

7:55:36question is the cost of our current

7:55:39agreements that would be flock and axon

7:55:41together versus just having axon and of

7:55:44course keeping apples and apples 10

7:55:46years 10 years or 8 years 8 years or I'm

7:55:48just trying to understand is this going

7:55:50up down and the reason I'm asking is

7:55:52according to the reports the numbers are

7:55:54going up. So, you know, it's hard for us

7:55:57to evaluate. Are we

7:56:00>> got any numbers?

7:56:02>> Yes, ma'am. So, initially, and I'm just

7:56:04going to give some ballpark numbers. I'd

7:56:05have to pull up a different resource

7:56:06unless we have that here to look at what

7:56:09the current value of our current

7:56:11contracts were with Flock and with uh

7:56:13Brink. Believe it was one was $330,000.

7:56:18>> Or Ryan, can you come up and address

7:56:20that? Sorry. Thank you.

7:56:21>> Yes, ma'am. Uh, Lieutenant Ryan Klein

7:56:23with the Police Department. Um, so our

7:56:25current existing uh contract with Flock

7:56:28was for $225,000

7:56:30per year and that was on an autorenewal

7:56:32for the next several years and which is

7:56:35what the letter was sent out.

7:56:36>> Isn't it a 10-year contract

7:56:38>> for Flock? No, ma'am. That was a I

7:56:40believe it was initially a two-year uh

7:56:42contract with the two-year auto renewal.

7:56:44>> Okay.

7:56:44>> Um so a four-year contract for that. Um

7:56:47for the drones, our our current contract

7:56:50with um the vendor was for the same the

7:56:531.9 million that was over 5 years. Um so

7:56:58>> so it sounds like we are increasing

7:57:01>> so

7:57:01>> the cost going to Axon. I I just trying

7:57:03to get a ballpark. I

7:57:05>> Yeah. So what we did when when we first

7:57:07began looking at this is we went to um

7:57:10to Axon and got quotes for what we have.

7:57:13What would it cost? And it came out

7:57:15extremely comparable. So essentially

7:57:17we're going from the 225 for flock to

7:57:20the 300 for um the axon um 14 initial

7:57:24ALPRs.

7:57:25>> Is that per year roughly? Is that what

7:57:26you're saying?

7:57:28>> That's over the cost.

7:57:29>> Okay. So what I understood it was 21

7:57:31million 22 million over eight years.

7:57:35>> Yes ma'am.

7:57:36>> Okay. Well I still don't really feel

7:57:38like I do understand but but anyway let

7:57:40me ask this. Um,

7:57:44I'll just jump right to some policies

7:57:45I'd like to see. Uh, Mr. Reese

7:57:48referenced some. He wants to see. Um,

7:57:50what I would like to see is you told us

7:57:52that in briefings that we have 29

7:57:56ALPRs right now and four drones and that

7:57:59we would be going from what I read to 50

7:58:01APLRs and um 12 drones. And so my

7:58:06question is what I'd like to see this is

7:58:08me personally. I don't know that anyone

7:58:10else agrees, but if we do make this

7:58:12change, I'd like to keep it status quo

7:58:15and even if your contract says you can

7:58:17go to 50, that you would come to council

7:58:19before you would increase the number on

7:58:21the street. I mean, is 29 good? Is 50

7:58:24good? Should we have 150? In other

7:58:26words, if some is good, is a lot more

7:58:29better, and where's that cut off? So, I

7:58:31don't want to do something that's

7:58:33totally open-ended and you can get as

7:58:35many as you think you need. I think the

7:58:37council needs to be involved in those

7:58:38decisions. So that would be a policy I'm

7:58:41looking for the data sharing. So I

7:58:44really I I think this is one of the most

7:58:46dangerous things uh truly and I think

7:58:49that that should be at this point call

7:58:51it your your first year uh a council

7:58:54decision about other than let's say Reno

7:58:57Sparks Wo County maybe Nevada Highway

7:59:00Patrol I'm not sure or the state police

7:59:02but whatever it is we should agree on

7:59:05some basket of data sharers should it

7:59:07just be case by case when you need help

7:59:10on a case or we going to broadly share

7:59:13data. What is your plan?

7:59:15>> Thank you for the There's a couple

7:59:16questions in there, so I'll try to get

7:59:17both of them wrapped up. The first one

7:59:19with respect to where are we going to

7:59:21deploy these cameras? Uh I came to this

7:59:24body several months ago to do my uh

7:59:27initial report and assessment of the

7:59:28Reno Police Department. We wanted to a

7:59:30get back to basics, two uh garner that

7:59:33public trust and that transparency

7:59:35piece, three make good business

7:59:36decisions, and four let evidence drive

7:59:38our decisions. And that's what we've

7:59:40done with our criminal analysts. When

7:59:42they go out there and they look at where

7:59:43the crime's happening right now, our 29

7:59:45AOPRs that are actually deployed, right,

7:59:48there's six additional that we haven't

7:59:49deployed. Right. I know.

7:59:50>> So, that was part of that current

7:59:51contract. So, we've deployed them in

7:59:53high crime areas where our analysts tell

7:59:55us that's where our crimes at. That's

7:59:56where they can be most effective.

7:59:58>> In respect for your time, we didn't want

8:00:00to have to have an opportunity to come

8:00:01back if we have an additional crime

8:00:03trend to get council approval to put up

8:00:04a camera in a park where there's been

8:00:06violent crime. I know in war

8:00:08>> I don't mind you moving them just to be

8:00:10clear I'm I'm talking about expanding

8:00:12the number. So I agree you should not

8:00:15have to come to council on a particular

8:00:16case or go to a park. I totally agree.

8:00:18What I'm talking about is data sharing

8:00:21with other groups more broadly or are

8:00:24you going to do it case by case? That

8:00:26was really

8:00:27>> I think it's case by case ma'am to

8:00:28start. Thank you for the question. I

8:00:29think it would be um incumbent upon us

8:00:32to look internally at our state and see

8:00:35how that can be a force multiplier.

8:00:37You've got Las Vegas Metropolitan Police

8:00:39Department is probably one of the most

8:00:40progressive agencies in the country with

8:00:42strict safeguards in there. So, are

8:00:44there opportunities for us to look

8:00:46internally within our state to share

8:00:47that data? Obviously, we've just entered

8:00:49into a memorandum of understanding with

8:00:51our uh city police department.

8:00:54>> I was saying I there's enough policies

8:00:56here that we should discuss that my

8:00:58recommendation would be that you

8:01:01whatever policies anybody wants to see

8:01:03the auditing has been mentioned. I've

8:01:05mentioned data s uh data retention I

8:01:09think was mentioned by uh Mr. Reese

8:01:11there I've got about six more um just

8:01:14having access through public records. I

8:01:16would like to know what our set of

8:01:18policies is when we assuming that we

8:01:21move forward with this. This is what

8:01:22I've been asking for the whole darn time

8:01:24and this is what I'm interested in and

8:01:27I'd like if we're going to move forward

8:01:29I want us to move forward with the

8:01:30policies attached and that's why I think

8:01:34we should we've had amazing conversation

8:01:36today got learned a lot from our law

8:01:38enforcement officers. I would like to

8:01:41continue the decision till we have the

8:01:43policies just like I asked for the first

8:01:45time with the flock decision. I asked

8:01:47for it at that time. I thought it'd be

8:01:49coming quickly, but it has been a year

8:01:51and a half. You weren't here then. But

8:01:54>> thank you for the grace.

8:01:55>> The [laughter] point is

8:01:56>> I'm going to cut you off.

8:01:57>> Okay, but let me just finish this last

8:01:58thing. Like one of the policies could be

8:02:01no cameras in sensitive locations such

8:02:03as it's been mentioned abortion clinics

8:02:05or whatever or

8:02:06>> that's already in our policy.

8:02:08>> Okay. But I don't know that because I

8:02:10didn't see that in this policies. And

8:02:12that's what I'm saying is council should

8:02:13understand what these policies are. And

8:02:16I I'll leave it at that. I just that's

8:02:18my concern is I want them to go side by

8:02:21side.

8:02:21>> Okay.

8:02:22>> Thank you.

8:02:24>> Okay. Um Councilwoman Eert.

8:02:33>> Yeah. Thank you. [clears throat]

8:02:35Yeah. Um, I I think I just fundamentally

8:02:40have a problem with having cameras um

8:02:44surrounding people that um

8:02:48haven't done anything wrong. I think

8:02:49that's a territory that I just don't

8:02:50want to get into. Um I felt the same way

8:02:54about the cameras down by the river. Um,

8:02:57even though I know the um the discussion

8:03:01around that was to be able to find

8:03:04debris down by the river faster to clean

8:03:06it out, I just I don't like the idea of

8:03:10just having cameras around and um

8:03:15you know potentially

8:03:18um just watching all of us and um I know

8:03:21that I get notices a couple times a year

8:03:23about data breaches at different places

8:03:26where my information was hacked

8:03:28somewhere. And I I just don't think um

8:03:33you can really promise that there won't

8:03:35be any abuse of this information. Um and

8:03:39I I'm just not comfortable with the risk

8:03:42of of um

8:03:45the abuse of of the the data that would

8:03:47be collected. Um and uh to Council

8:03:51Member Reese's point about things that

8:03:53have gone on with uh the uh federal

8:03:57administration

8:03:59and ICE raids and and things of that

8:04:02nature. Um the data that's collected by

8:04:06these uh cameras, who knows what they

8:04:09could be used for. I mean, it could

8:04:11depend on who's who's in office at the

8:04:15time. Um, so I um I just I I can't

8:04:20support it. I'm sorry. And also, you

8:04:22know, just a reminder that we're the

8:04:24representatives of the people and

8:04:27they've showed up in force today to tell

8:04:29us that they don't want it. Um, and I've

8:04:32really um felt a sense of of people

8:04:36being just feeling disenfranchised in a

8:04:40lot of areas um in the city of Reno. And

8:04:44I think that uh we have an opportunity

8:04:46here to respond to um

8:04:50the um comments that they've given us

8:04:53today and um represent their wishes. I

8:04:58again am fine with body cameras. I think

8:05:01that's great. I think dash cameras are

8:05:04fine. I just don't like uh the cameras

8:05:08just keeping track of of everyone's

8:05:10license plates. So, uh, those are my

8:05:12final comments. Thank you.

8:05:14>> I I appreciate the sentiment, ma'am. I

8:05:16just wanted to clarify one thing for the

8:05:17record. And we do have representatives

8:05:19here from Axon, too. Uh, and I did say

8:05:21trusted vendor because I've been working

8:05:24personally with them for over 25 years

8:05:26and because of how they treat their less

8:05:27lethal systems from tasers to body

8:05:30cameras when they became online. Uh, we

8:05:32have not had a documented data breach

8:05:34through Axon. Uh, I know you weren't

8:05:36here, ma'am, for the presentation, but

8:05:38online it also indicates that our own

8:05:41data is what we own. The feds do not

8:05:43have an account to access our data. So,

8:05:45there is no opportunity for us to share

8:05:47that data with a federal entity. It's

8:05:50our data. We control it. We own it. And

8:05:52it is housed state side.

8:05:54>> Yeah. It's housed in what was it AWS? Is

8:05:57that Amazon

8:06:00services? It is housed according to CJS

8:06:04standards which is the highest level of

8:06:06government encryption.

8:06:07>> Yeah. I'm just saying that there is

8:06:10always that potential. I know that the

8:06:12Nevada state government was hacked last

8:06:15year. So it's not out of the realm and

8:06:18uh information like that is sought

8:06:21after. So um you know and and it isn't

8:06:25um stored completely um in uh

8:06:30you know in in Axon's uh sole

8:06:34possession. It's stored on on Amazon's

8:06:37servers. So again I just I'm just not

8:06:40comfortable with it. So thank you.

8:06:43>> Thanks so much. Okay, Councilman

8:06:45Anderson, I see you have got you got

8:06:46green over there.

8:06:47>> I do. Oh, I just wanted to thank

8:06:49Councilman Ree for bringing up Mr.

8:06:52Franklin. He was a patriarchal

8:06:54misogynist jerk and I take no [laughter]

8:06:58advice from Benjamin Franklin. Anyway,

8:07:03>> Chief,

8:07:04>> ma'am,

8:07:04>> what is the average cost to

8:07:07recruit, test, qualify, hire, train,

8:07:11equip

8:07:12one police officer? When I did these

8:07:15numbers for my former employer, uh it

8:07:18was close to $200,000

8:07:20>> in salary and training and retention in

8:07:23that's not [clears throat] even

8:07:24including recruitment costs, the cost of

8:07:26administering the test, the cost of

8:07:27overtime for our officers to go out and

8:07:29administer the test for the ability for

8:07:31our team to conduct continuous

8:07:34recruiting. When I first started

8:07:35testing, we tested up at Dawn Melo. You

8:07:38did your PFT in the morning, your

8:07:40physical fitness test. you got a card to

8:07:42take that afternoon to go to the

8:07:43convention center and you tested in a

8:07:45room with a thousand people.

8:07:47>> We don't have those numbers anymore. Uh

8:07:49but our department, I'm proud of the men

8:07:51and women of the Reno Police Department

8:07:52because we're our own best advocates.

8:07:54People love what we're doing. The energy

8:07:56is infectious. They're recruiting their

8:07:59friends. They're recruiting their

8:08:00colleagues. They're recruiting everybody

8:08:02that wants to be a part of what we're

8:08:03doing here right now. Um I would make

8:08:06this disclaimer to the council. I I love

8:08:09stealing talent. So there's

8:08:11opportunities for people that I've

8:08:12worked with at my former employer and

8:08:14elsewhere throughout the state that are

8:08:16currently looking at potentially coming

8:08:18over here because they want to be a part

8:08:20of what we're doing. So I know I went a

8:08:22little over that question, but it costs

8:08:23a lot of money to recruit, retain, to

8:08:25train our individuals just to get them

8:08:28off the street and into a police car

8:08:30where they're on their own.

8:08:32>> Okay. Well, in 2010, thank you for that

8:08:34answer, but in 2010, when we laid off an

8:08:36entire

8:08:38um Academy of Police Officers, it was

8:08:41reported that the cost to do all of the

8:08:43things that I just requested was on

8:08:45average $1.5 million per officer.

8:08:49>> So, with that point, and thank you for

8:08:51your explanation, and thank you for your

8:08:54incredible officers that are doing the

8:08:55recruiting,

8:08:57these tools are critical. These tools

8:09:00are a fraction of the cost to give an

8:09:03officer. I mean, being able in W 6

8:09:06alone,

8:09:07>> a lot of the concerns that I think a lot

8:09:09of the people in the community and that

8:09:11have been talking here today are around

8:09:14downtown and constant surveillance of

8:09:16downtown. But if you live in a

8:09:18neighborhood like ours in Ward 6, it is

8:09:21very rare that you get to see an

8:09:23officer. And most officers that we do

8:09:25see, we celebrate because we know that

8:09:27they're, you know, focusing on traffic.

8:09:29They're focusing on speeders. They're

8:09:31focusing on nuisance crimes that we're

8:09:33dealing with in our communities. But we

8:09:35have areas in our community that takes a

8:09:37very long time to get an officer to. So,

8:09:40I am stoked about the drone the drone

8:09:42project. I am stoked about the ability

8:09:45for an officer to basically have another

8:09:47officer on scene with tools to start

8:09:50collecting evidence and communicating

8:09:54with the rest of your officers about

8:09:56what's really going on in that, you

8:09:58know, at that call. My husband is a

8:10:01retired fireman. He drove a fire truck

8:10:03for 18 years.

8:10:07When he started at the fire department

8:10:09and he started as a driver, he had a

8:10:12recipe box that had index cards in the

8:10:16fire truck that had directions to every

8:10:19street in Reno that he would have to put

8:10:22on his glasses in the middle of the

8:10:23night, pull it out, look it up, and find

8:10:25his way to that call. technology is

8:10:28incredibly helpful in public safety when

8:10:31it's has good policy, good public, you

8:10:35know, servants and great oversight. And

8:10:38so I I'm entrusting you to bring the

8:10:41policy and the oversight. And um I thank

8:10:44you and your officers for enduring all

8:10:47of the questions that we deserve to be

8:10:50asked and they deserve to be asked in

8:10:51terms of whether or not the public is

8:10:53safe. and um I intend to support this

8:10:56contract.

8:10:57>> Okay. Uh Councilwoman or

8:11:01Vice Mayor Martinez,

8:11:02>> thank you. Sorry, it was a little slow

8:11:04on the draw.

8:11:05>> That's all right.

8:11:06>> I appreciate that. Um I wanted to see if

8:11:09um maybe we can get somebody from Axon

8:11:13to talk specifically about the IT

8:11:15security and the storage. I think no one

8:11:17at least from my perspective I'll speak

8:11:19and say I don't I'm not doubting

8:11:21>> the usefulness of the tool that is

8:11:24available for our PD but a lot of the

8:11:27comments that we've been hearing from

8:11:28the community and posted on social media

8:11:30and other places is all about protecting

8:11:32the data and ensuring that there isn't

8:11:34misuse or abuse of that and I do see

8:11:37some

8:11:39you know um warranties I guess um within

8:11:42the agreement to ensure that there are

8:11:43proper technologies in place to protect

8:11:46from Axon's perspective and from the

8:11:48city's perspective. But I did want to

8:11:50ask about specifically uh Fed ramp high

8:11:54um and getting those protections for the

8:11:57data that the customer data that is

8:11:59produced from these cameras and seeing

8:12:01if that is something where our data is

8:12:04going to sit behind on Fed ramp and that

8:12:06we're getting the protections that are

8:12:08provided by that technology.

8:12:10>> Perfect. Thank you for the question

8:12:12council. I'm going to invite Tierney up

8:12:13here to explain.

8:12:15>> Thank you, Madame Mayor and Council

8:12:18members. Thanks for having me. Uh, Vice

8:12:20Mayor Martinez, great questions. I think

8:12:23it's really important to cover

8:12:24>> Sorry. Name and title for the record.

8:12:26>> Oh, Tyrion Stewart, the account

8:12:28executive at Daxon. Uh, I think it's

8:12:30really important that we talk about how

8:12:31the data is stored because I I don't

8:12:33think it maybe was covered fully today.

8:12:36So I have a little visual here for you

8:12:39guys, but uh from from the start all of

8:12:42our devices, body camera, incar camera,

8:12:44license plate readers, all of the data

8:12:47is con uh encrypted on the device itself

8:12:50and then [snorts] that data moves into

8:12:52the cloud which uh council member Eert

8:12:55mentioned AWS and also Microsoft uh

8:12:58Azure. So it's encrypted as it moves to

8:13:01the cloud and then when it's stored in

8:13:03the cloud it's encrypted uh as well and

8:13:07as chief has mentioned the only people

8:13:09who have access to that data is Reno PD.

8:13:12So each individual agency that we

8:13:14support so sparks and wo they have their

8:13:16own cloud instance where all of their

8:13:19data is stored. Uh in addition to that

8:13:22our federal customers are stored in a

8:13:24completely separate cloud instance. So

8:13:27uh there is no built-in connection for

8:13:31any agencies but even more specifically

8:13:33for federal agencies. It's not possible

8:13:36for RPD to share with a federal agency.

8:13:40In terms of your question on Fed ramp

8:13:42high that is a level of security that we

8:13:46have for our federal customers. Uh the

8:13:49equivalent to that would be gov ramp

8:13:51which we are uh through all the

8:13:55paperwork and should be adopting here

8:13:57shortly. Um but all of our

8:13:59certifications sus compliant sacu

8:14:02everything's listed at trust.axon.com.

8:14:04So you can see all of the levels of

8:14:05security. Uh Axon hosts the most

8:14:08sensitive digital evidence for all

8:14:10police agencies. You can imagine photos,

8:14:12videos. We've never had a data breach.

8:14:15Um, not to say that that's not possible,

8:14:18but it has never happened in over a

8:14:20decade of us storing all this

8:14:21information.

8:14:22>> Thank you for putting on the record. And

8:14:24I do have trust.x on the come up here on

8:14:26my own personal computer and whoever has

8:14:28questions. I think some of that

8:14:29compliance information that you're

8:14:30talking about is listed on there. Happy

8:14:32to see GDPR um compliance on there as

8:14:35well to ensure that we have that. My

8:14:37next round is going to deal more about

8:14:39termination of the contract um and some

8:14:41of that, but I know I'm out of time, so

8:14:42I'll leave that for my next round.

8:14:44>> Okay.

8:14:46Um, quickly let me just ask you. Does

8:14:49the is that connected through the

8:14:51internet?

8:14:54>> Uh, what do you mean by that?

8:14:57>> Connected through the internet?

8:14:58>> Yes, it does. Is it?

8:15:00>> So, evidence.com

8:15:02because if you're hosting it, correct?

8:15:04And then

8:15:05>> we're accessing it, it's through the

8:15:07internet.

8:15:07>> Yeah. Evidence.com is a web- based

8:15:09>> Okay. Yes.

8:15:10>> Okay. Point of clarification. This is

8:15:13not the same like AWS and Azure

8:15:15environments that we use for our

8:15:17personal Gmail accounts, right? This is

8:15:19GovCloud, so it's different level of

8:15:21security.

8:15:21>> Okay. All right. Uh, Council Taylor,

8:15:24>> thank you. I Chief, you're going to have

8:15:26to bear with me here. I need you to

8:15:28simplify something for me. I think uh

8:15:30Councilwoman Anderson asked the question

8:15:32and I heard about the process and the

8:15:34discipline but um I just need a real

8:15:38simple answer of how do we know if there

8:15:41is a problem and I think I might

8:15:43understand that there will be parameters

8:15:46set like I don't know how many

8:15:47keystrokes or how many times somebody

8:15:49when does it become a problem if it's

8:15:51five times that somebody logs in 20

8:15:53times that somebody logs in when do we

8:15:56know that there is a breach or a misuse

8:15:59or mistrust and who is going to be

8:16:04checking that and I don't I mean we

8:16:06don't want to wait through

8:16:08um I you know an IIA or anything like

8:16:11that. What are what are the checks and

8:16:13balances of

8:16:15what how do we know when there's a

8:16:17problem?

8:16:18>> Thank you for the question. Cory

8:16:19Sulfrino for the record. Uh we have the

8:16:21ability to set those safeguards in

8:16:23place. So if we want that trigger to be

8:16:26five subsequent searches of the same

8:16:29vehicle, it

8:16:30>> so somebody a lot smarter than me that

8:16:32has done

8:16:34>> for us. I [laughter] mean we don't want

8:16:36to have that data mining uh opportunity,

8:16:39right? We want to be able to comb

8:16:41through the data, but we also want to be

8:16:43alerted to potential misuse. So if it's

8:16:45happening, we want to know about it. We

8:16:46can set those parameters just like we

8:16:48would on any type of environment where

8:16:51our officers were subject to successive

8:16:54complaints or pursuits or uses of force.

8:16:57There's flags on there as an early

8:16:58warning detection system that indicate

8:17:00in systems that we already have.

8:17:02Furthermore, part of this enhanced

8:17:04package is our Axon standards package

8:17:06for IIA that will additionally tell us

8:17:09when the system's being misused.

8:17:11>> So, we have standards already in place

8:17:13that we use on other technology and

8:17:16processes that we're going to be able to

8:17:18apply to this. So, we're not going to

8:17:20have to wait 6 months, 4 months, 2

8:17:22months. if there's if there's something

8:17:24happening, if we have a problem, if this

8:17:27is not working out or if there's a

8:17:29misuse or abuse, we're going to be able

8:17:31to know immediately.

8:17:33>> Yes, ma'am. It's it's similarly to what

8:17:35I would equate it to our officers,

8:17:37right? We have a chain of command. We

8:17:38have our sergeants, our lieutenants, our

8:17:40captains, our chiefs, myself that are

8:17:41looking at these things. When our

8:17:43sergeants are out on the dayto-day, and

8:17:45we see our officer who's been involved

8:17:48in three uses of force in three days,

8:17:49okay, well, they work downtown. Are they

8:17:51working in a K9 unit? I work in in a

8:17:52high-risisk unit. We have the ability to

8:17:55look at those and decipher similarly to

8:17:56this whatever parameters that we set the

8:17:59subsequent search of the same plate

8:18:01multiple times or if their cadence is

8:18:03going up within a standard deviation. We

8:18:06have the ability to have our sergeants

8:18:08look into that conduct a quick inquiry

8:18:10and then see if we need to send it to

8:18:12IIA for formal documentation for

8:18:14discipline or explain the anomaly.

8:18:16>> Okay. Thank you very much. Yes,

8:18:18>> ma'am.

8:18:19>> Okay. Um,

8:18:22since I haven't gone yet, I just want to

8:18:24ask uh some questions.

8:18:26>> Yes, ma'am.

8:18:27>> And I have about 50 questions.

8:18:29>> 50.

8:18:29>> But I'm I'm not going to I want to make

8:18:32sure everyone else gets an opportunity

8:18:34to go. Um, so explain to me exactly who

8:18:38has access

8:18:40to this system.

8:18:42>> Great question. To what? to uh your axon

8:18:46cameras, your data, your everything

8:18:50pertaining to this whole. So, if we're

8:18:52talking about taser deployments in that

8:18:54download, if we're talking about incar

8:18:56video in those subsequent downloads, if

8:18:57we're talking about body warn camera in

8:18:59those subsequent downloads and ALPR data

8:19:02and

8:19:03what else we drone data,

8:19:05>> and I'm glad you mentioned that, Chief,

8:19:07because

8:19:09there is one area where I do feel

8:19:12>> like this really sort of became a

8:19:17blanket and myriad of things.

8:19:20So there could be some things where

8:19:23people are like, "Yes, that makes sense.

8:19:26I get that because I read that the

8:19:29technology or um the you know the

8:19:33physical like hardware and pieces like

8:19:35that need to be um replaced. Correct. Is

8:19:38that correct?"

8:19:39>> Correct.

8:19:40>> And that's different than the technology

8:19:41itself.

8:19:43>> Is that correct?

8:19:44>> It depends. Some some equipment's at end

8:19:46of life and needs to be replaced.

8:19:48>> Right. And additionally, some are

8:19:49statutoily mandated that we have to

8:19:51replace.

8:19:52>> Okay. But that's different than the

8:19:54technology as well, what it can do

8:19:57versus and this is sort of broad because

8:20:00you have different um

8:20:01>> different platforms.

8:20:02>> Yes, different platforms. Yes, ma'am.

8:20:04>> So, it makes it really difficult to kind

8:20:06of pin down one. This is just sort of a

8:20:09myriad of that. And then um who audits

8:20:15um

8:20:17let's say so who does have access

8:20:20exactly tell me like

8:20:21>> to the auditing or to viewing we have

8:20:23rules and permissions

8:20:24>> who can view this information.

8:20:26>> Well I I guess that was uh

8:20:30it's an interesting question because I'm

8:20:31going to have to answer it about six not

8:20:33different ways but six different

8:20:35platforms. Right. That's what I was

8:20:37saying because it gets confusing because

8:20:38we don't have this isn't just one

8:20:40platform. This is six different

8:20:42platforms. Correct.

8:20:43>> Well, it it's all within the

8:20:44evidence.com vault.

8:20:46>> So, when you're going in to query this

8:20:48individual, whether it's body cam

8:20:50footage, drone footage, fleet camera,

8:20:52video footage, taser downloads, and

8:20:54deployment, all of that exists within

8:20:56the evidence.com vault. So, every time

8:20:59you log into that, whether or not

8:21:02>> You got a question?

8:21:03>> Yeah. [bell]

8:21:03>> Okay. U Lieutenant Colin for the record.

8:21:07Um if I think you're understanding your

8:21:08question is based off the in the

8:21:10ecosystem we can set roles and

8:21:12permissions. So we have officers have

8:21:15certain roles and permissions they can

8:21:17see certain things. My drone pilots have

8:21:19certain roles and permissions they can

8:21:20see certain things and we set that. So

8:21:22our our redaction specialists have roles

8:21:23in certain things. Our admins have roles

8:21:26in certain things. So we set that based

8:21:27off your uh a lieutenant or a sergeant

8:21:29may have additional roles where they can

8:21:31maybe do some warranty requests. If

8:21:33something's broken, they can send it

8:21:34back.

8:21:34>> Okay. So, there are some guidelines

8:21:36>> there. There there there's guidelines

8:21:37and it's it's it's extensively thorough.

8:21:40>> Um, so if I have a unit in a let's say

8:21:45they're uh a a Sparks detective in one

8:21:48of our regional units, and I want them

8:21:49to be able to see in Fus where their

8:21:52partners are working, where their body

8:21:53cam is located, I can say that's the

8:21:55only permission you have. You can't view

8:21:57any of our evidence. You can't download

8:21:58any evidence. You can't do any of our

8:22:00ALPR searches. you can't do anything but

8:22:01go into a map and see my partner is

8:22:04working right there. Or for our

8:22:05redaction specialists, they can download

8:22:07video, but maybe our officers can't. So,

8:22:09it's very customizable based off of your

8:22:12rank, your assignment, your duties, um,

8:22:14and what job you need to do. We can give

8:22:17you certain permissions to access

8:22:19certain data or not access certain data.

8:22:21>> Okay. So, are you saying that not all

8:22:24um, RPD employees have access? So we ba

8:22:28we we have a license for every employee

8:22:30based off your job duties. You have a

8:22:32it's get in the weeds. It's a basic a

8:22:35pro license. So a basic license is you

8:22:37can do certain things. Pro you can do

8:22:38certain things. Admin license you can do

8:22:40other things. I can I can assign roles.

8:22:42I can remove roles. I can remove suspend

8:22:44I can suspend people's accounts as an

8:22:45admin. An officer obviously can't do

8:22:47that. They have a very basic license

8:22:49where they can download evidence. Um

8:22:51they can edit their their case number in

8:22:54their evidence, things like that.

8:22:56>> Okay. Okay. And then who audits your

8:22:58internal department? Are you saying um

8:23:01internal affairs?

8:23:03Is that who's going to audit?

8:23:04>> If we found a violation of policy, that

8:23:06would be our current policy is that if

8:23:08we found a policy violation pursuant to

8:23:10the technology policy, we would write up

8:23:12a formal internal affairs investigation

8:23:15and send it to IIA. Correct, ma'am. And

8:23:16then it would go through the CBA

8:23:18process.

8:23:18>> Okay.

8:23:20Um and then how long is the information

8:23:23retained? because I've heard different

8:23:27time frames.

8:23:27>> Again, what information? Because it

8:23:29depends, right? Once it's been made

8:23:30evidence, it's held pursuant to those

8:23:32retention schedules based upon Nevada

8:23:34revised statutes. If it's just stale

8:23:37data, it's captures. It's not used

8:23:40evidentiary. It's not searched. It is

8:23:42dismissed after 30 days.

8:23:44>> Okay. And you can share that information

8:23:45wherever you want. Correct. Like you as

8:23:49the or whoever has access, they have a

8:23:52controlled access.

8:23:55like let's say another

8:23:58it was someone from a different state

8:24:01and you needed to share that with

8:24:02Arizona or how how does that work? We

8:24:06would basically send them if they had

8:24:08the same system and they had a link, we

8:24:09would send them a link specific to the

8:24:11body cam footage or the dash cam footage

8:24:13of the vehicle that they were looking

8:24:14for that was implemented in type of

8:24:16crime in their area and we would share

8:24:18that with them which would also be

8:24:20documented within the evidence.com vault

8:24:22uh through the chain of custody that we

8:24:23shared it with them and that link would

8:24:25be forwarded to their government

8:24:27account.

8:24:27>> But it sounds like Reno could prohibit

8:24:29outside sharing if we wanted to.

8:24:32Correct.

8:24:32>> Correct. It's that one to one. We

8:24:34determine who we're going to share with.

8:24:36>> Okay.

8:24:36>> And for how long and it's revocable at

8:24:38any time.

8:24:39>> Okay. Perfect.

8:24:40>> And similarly, I apologize, ma'am.

8:24:41Similar to what Lieutenant Connley said.

8:24:43He said a very important thing. We can

8:24:45limit the permissions of what we're

8:24:46sharing with them. It's not an all or

8:24:48nothing thing. We can curtail that to

8:24:50what they need to see or what they don't

8:24:51need to see pursuant to their

8:24:52investigation.

8:24:54>> Okay. Thank you so much. Okay. Go ahead,

8:24:58Councilman Reese.

8:24:59>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. I I have some

8:25:00questions for our legal counsel. Um, I

8:25:03assume that legal counsel has read the

8:25:05master services and purchasing agreement

8:25:07or is that a question through the city

8:25:09manager?

8:25:11>> Sir, I have Brian Sudi coming up.

8:25:13>> Oh, perfect. Mr. Sudi, I'm focusing on

8:25:15section 16, the termination clause. Uh,

8:25:1816.1 is for breach. I want to understand

8:25:21whether sharing data with an

8:25:22unauthorized government agency would

8:25:24constitute a breach, which then would

8:25:26allow us to terminate the contract.

8:25:30Deputy City Attorney Brian City for the

8:25:32record. Uh, good a good evening, Mayor,

8:25:35City Council. Um, thank you. I have not

8:25:37looked at this in a couple weeks, so

8:25:39bear with me.

8:25:40>> The answer is yes. I'm trying to confirm

8:25:43with you, our legal counsel, that I have

8:25:44read it correctly that if we find an

8:25:47unauthorized breach of the system

8:25:49because it's been shared with someone we

8:25:51did not authorize it to, that would be a

8:25:53breach of the contract. Correct. Axon

8:25:55shares the So if you're the question is

8:25:58if Axon is sharing the information that

8:26:02would be a breach of the contract.

8:26:03Correct.

8:26:04>> Right. If we did not permit the sharing

8:26:07of our data to another agency that would

8:26:10be a breach. Right. We control our own

8:26:11data. So if someone internally controls

8:26:14the data as chief indicated and

8:26:16improperly shares it that will go

8:26:18through the IIA investigation and

8:26:20process that would not violate an

8:26:22individual employee who improperly

8:26:25shares information would not violate

8:26:27this contract. The to terminate the

8:26:29contract a violation of contract is

8:26:31between the city of Reno and Axon. So if

8:26:33Axon shares the information somehow

8:26:36which they don't have access

8:26:37>> you got to be very specific because I

8:26:39don't think you're understanding the

8:26:40question. I'm not understanding your

8:26:41question.

8:26:41>> That's okay. I maybe I answer asked the

8:26:43question poorly. If um the Department of

8:26:46Homeland Security showed up in city hall

8:26:49next week and said, "Hand over the

8:26:51data." If we gave it to him, that's kind

8:26:54of on us, right? But if they show up in

8:26:56the offices of Axon, wherever Axon's

8:26:58home is, and Axon said, "It's yours.

8:27:01Take it. Go use it for the ill purposes

8:27:03of this tyrannical administration." Is

8:27:06that a breach?

8:27:07>> That would be a breach.

8:27:07>> Perfect. Would that breach justify our

8:27:09con cancellation of the contract?

8:27:11>> As the attorney that has dealt with this

8:27:14contract, I would fight that 100% as a

8:27:16breach of contract.

8:27:16>> Thank you so much. Item 18 in the

8:27:18contract says compliance with the laws.

8:27:21Um, one of our um, assembly members and

8:27:23I had a conversation and that assembly

8:27:25member uh, hopes to bring legislation in

8:27:28the next legislative cycle about license

8:27:30plate readers. Um, if the law changes

8:27:33after we've contracted, does the change

8:27:36in the law mean that we cannot comply

8:27:38with our obligations on their contract?

8:27:42>> For the particular LPR question, yes.

8:27:46>> Perfect. Thank you so much. That's all I

8:27:48have for you, Mr. Sudi. Um I wanted to

8:27:50ask a question of um uh madame manager

8:27:55um that has to do with um

8:28:00the technology policy. So this is

8:28:02technology policy 900.02

8:28:06um which is the technology policy that

8:28:07we had been asking for for some time

8:28:09which did take some time to get.

8:28:11understand that um do city council do we

8:28:16write these policies the departmental

8:28:18policies? Okay. Do we um approve their

8:28:21um existence?

8:28:23>> No.

8:28:24>> Okay. So, I just want to make sure I

8:28:25understood because I I have some ideas

8:28:28about things that I need to see in the

8:28:30agreement changed and I'm talking like

8:28:32global large about the contract. Some of

8:28:35them some of it's about data retention.

8:28:37Um, and so I want to make sure that if

8:28:39those changes are made that those can

8:28:41then be translated through you who are

8:28:44responsible for overseeing the police

8:28:46department into the policy level

8:28:47agreement.

8:28:48>> Correct.

8:28:48>> Okay, I understand. Thank you so much.

8:28:50That's all I have for uh my time is up.

8:28:53>> Okay, thank you. I believe um are we

8:28:56>> I think we're at three.

8:28:58>> I Yeah, I think I'm at my one minute.

8:29:00>> Okay, go right ahead.

8:29:01>> What I I don't want to go into the

8:29:02detail. I think it sounds like um

8:29:05Council Member Ree has some proposed

8:29:07policies is what I was hearing you say.

8:29:10So, I'm really interested to see what

8:29:11they say. My preference would be um to

8:29:16aggregate the changes that each of us

8:29:18were interested in or the asurances into

8:29:21the policy so we can read them and it's

8:29:23not five months from now or five years

8:29:27from now being interpreted based on this

8:29:29meeting. somebody listening to the

8:29:31video, I'd like to see it written down

8:29:34and that's what's going to give me

8:29:35comfort. I do think that the Axon right

8:29:38now based on what I know is better than

8:29:40Flock and I always think that, you know,

8:29:42we're in a betterment stage. I want to

8:29:43do something better. And then the

8:29:45policies, we seem to not have any with

8:29:48Flock or they have their own whatever.

8:29:50We're not comfortable with them. And I'm

8:29:52not comfortable with all the ones that

8:29:53you've described. For example, 30 days

8:29:55for data retention. I think that should

8:29:57be seven or 14 days. um because the

8:30:00shorter we retain it, the less it can be

8:30:03hacked by someone else. So, I'm really

8:30:04interested to hear what everyone would

8:30:06like to see. And I'd really like to see

8:30:09him written down so we all know what

8:30:10we're voting on. That's that's where I'm

8:30:12at. Okay.

8:30:14>> Okay. Uh Councilwoman Eert, you get one.

8:30:23>> Yeah. Um, just wanted to reiterate those

8:30:26council member Reese's questions just

8:30:28now were some of the first questions I

8:30:29asked at the beginning that what is the

8:30:32document retention policy on this

8:30:34information? Um,

8:30:38and what would happen if there was

8:30:39something that happened at the state

8:30:40level that allow took away the um, uh,

8:30:46right to have these kind of cameras out

8:30:48here. So, um, I do hope we get

8:30:51information on that. Um,

8:30:54and you know, it might not even be an

8:30:56issue. Maybe it won't be allowed after

8:30:58next legislative session, but I would

8:31:00just kind of echo that I would like to

8:31:03get that information.

8:31:05>> Okay. Thank you. All right. Anyone else?

8:31:09No. Anyone else?

8:31:11>> I just want to add I I didn't really

8:31:13spend any time on this, but this public

8:31:15record response time, it's been very

8:31:17frustrating. We've gotten a lot of

8:31:18criticism about it just on general

8:31:21policing.

8:31:22>> It would be important since this is such

8:31:24a hot topic that if there is something

8:31:26requested and it is legal to release, in

8:31:29other words, it's not in um in a deep

8:31:33investigation on something and and it's

8:31:35releasable that we should release it in

8:31:37a timely manner. And that's something

8:31:38I'd like to see in the policy. Okay.

8:31:42Thanks.

8:31:43>> Okay.

8:31:45Councilman Ree, are you going going to

8:31:48>> Madame Mayor? I have a motion. It's

8:31:50rather lengthy, so I have um asked Tyler

8:31:53to print it off for me and he has

8:31:55provided it to me. I what I'd like to do

8:31:56is maybe give a copy to the clerk so it

8:31:58can be put up on the screen and then

8:32:00I'll read it. I I I provided I had

8:32:03enough copies for each of you, but um I

8:32:06suppose we could make more. What what is

8:32:07the will of the body, madame clerk? If I

8:32:09give it to you and I'll read it in the

8:32:11record because of course it is just a

8:32:14motion until I receive a second and then

8:32:16I have some comment before that. So I

8:32:18don't know what's best. I'm going to

8:32:20give it to um you and you can distribute

8:32:22that as needed and we'll wait till we

8:32:24can get up on the screen. Um

8:32:50and so for my colleagues benefit, what I

8:32:52did is I tried to take each of your

8:32:53comments Um, and I understood comments

8:32:56were made that were substantive by um,

8:32:58Miss Taylor, Miss Der, Miss Eert, uh,

8:33:01Miss Anderson, and Mr. Martinez, and and

8:33:04Madame Mayor, I had yours, but I had it

8:33:05was duplicative of someone else's, so I

8:33:08will include it in that way. So, I'm

8:33:09going to make the motion. So, my motion

8:33:11is I move to approve the agreement with

8:33:13Axon Enterprise, Inc. as presented by

8:33:15staff subject to the following

8:33:16conditions consistent with Reno Police

8:33:18Department policy 9.02, technology and

8:33:21technology assisted policing. First,

8:33:22data retention. ALPR data not associated

8:33:25with a documented lawful investigation

8:33:27shall be automatically deleted within 14

8:33:29days of collection. Retention beyond 14

8:33:32days shall be permitted only for

8:33:33documented investigative purposes or

8:33:35legally required preservation. These

8:33:37restrictions shall apply to all copies

8:33:39and exports of ALPR data under city

8:33:41control and no transfer or export shall

8:33:43be used to circumvent these

8:33:44requirements. Two, local control and

8:33:47data sharing. The city shall maintain

8:33:48control over its data, prohibiting

8:33:50automatic or unauthorized direct or

8:33:52indirect sharing with outside agencies.

8:33:54All access and sharing shall comply with

8:33:56policy 9.02, including its privacy,

8:33:59civil liberties, and accountability

8:34:00protections. Three, quarterly audits.

8:34:03The Reno Police Department shall conduct

8:34:04compliance audits of all surveillance

8:34:06technologies covered by policy 9.02, at

8:34:08least quarterly, or more frequently

8:34:10where required by policy. Audit shall

8:34:12include access logs, data retention,

8:34:14outside agency sharing, policy

8:34:16compliance, and identified misuse. Four

8:34:18is public reporting. Every three months,

8:34:20the chief of police shall report to the

8:34:21city council either in writing or

8:34:23through public presentation addressing

8:34:25technology uses, effectiveness, the

8:34:27number of searches, and outside agency

8:34:28access requests, data sharing, audit

8:34:31findings, policy violations, and

8:34:32corrective actions subject to the

8:34:34appropriate confidentiality protections.

8:34:36These reports shall be made publicly

8:34:38available. Five, council oversight. Any

8:34:41new surveillance technology or material

8:34:43expansion of existing surveillance

8:34:44capabilities outside the scope of this

8:34:46agreement shall require city council

8:34:48approval before implementation. Six is

8:34:51termination with or without cause. The

8:34:52city of Reno shall have the unilateral

8:34:54right to terminate this agreement with

8:34:55or without cause upon 30 days written

8:34:57notice to acts on without penalty or

8:34:59additional financial obligation arising

8:35:01from such termination including any

8:35:03repayment recapture or adjustment of

8:35:05previously negotiate discounts or the

8:35:07difference between MSP MSRP and

8:35:10contracted pricing. The city shall

8:35:12remain responsible only for amounts

8:35:13properly due for goods and services

8:35:15received before the effective date of

8:35:16the termination at the agreed

8:35:17contractual rates. I further move to

8:35:20direct the city manager, city attorney,

8:35:21and the chief of police to implement

8:35:22these conditions through the appropriate

8:35:24contractual provisions, departmental

8:35:26policies, and system configurations

8:35:27before the effective technology become

8:35:29operational. And finally, these

8:35:31conditions may be modified only by a

8:35:33subsequent action of the city council.

8:35:35>> I will second for discussion.

8:35:37>> I have a question.

8:35:38>> Madam Mayor, I have a

8:35:39>> Okay, so I have a motion and a second.

8:35:41We have discussion and um before that, I

8:35:45just want to go for some comments on the

8:35:47record. Um, a few things. I have very

8:35:51similar comments to

8:35:53What are you doing there?

8:35:54>> Oh, I was just moving the

8:35:56>> Oh, okay. [laughter]

8:35:58Hello. Um,

8:36:02okay. So, I got to tell you,

8:36:05here's the thing. I have a lot of

8:36:06thoughts about this. And I have a lot of

8:36:09thoughts about this because I have

8:36:11thought about this over and over and

8:36:13over and over again.

8:36:16And the reason I have thought about this

8:36:18over and over again is because

8:36:24I am probably the only one in this room

8:36:26that h has this job unless some of these

8:36:29officers in this room and and I

8:36:31shouldn't say that. Maybe some of you

8:36:33have had this. Um but my job is to

8:36:36protect the public. And it's also um

8:36:40and I've also had the very unfortunate

8:36:43experience of being stalked and tracked.

8:36:48And I will tell you um that

8:36:51experience changed my life um forever.

8:36:54Forever.

8:36:56And I also thought I was going to have a

8:36:58heart attack the minute um that was

8:37:00found on my car. I literally thought I

8:37:02was going to fall down and have a heart

8:37:03attack.

8:37:05So, I'm speaking from two different

8:37:07sides of I I'm frustrated that we quite

8:37:11honestly put protection and uh privacy

8:37:15against each other because I've heard

8:37:17two different

8:37:19situations over here where um our

8:37:23officers are very passionate about it

8:37:26and I don't think anyone would ever want

8:37:29to deny the fact that technology

8:37:32and these tools can be phenomenal to

8:37:35catching criminals or people that have

8:37:37wronged someone that we love. I think

8:37:39about that like when like when when I

8:37:41see drunk drivers, I always think like

8:37:43what if that was my mom? What if that

8:37:45was my sister? What you know, when you

8:37:48put yourself into someone else's other

8:37:50people's shoes, it's a very different

8:37:54situation.

8:37:56And and I don't think this is about Axon

8:37:59or Flock. Let's be honest people, this

8:38:03is about trusting your government with

8:38:05the technology.

8:38:08And so I I will tell you

8:38:12that um and and why this is so important

8:38:15and we had the opportunity to get this

8:38:17so so right. And I think we stepped in

8:38:19this and and I'm going to tell you why.

8:38:22Because I get a different view and lens

8:38:26into the great work that the Reno Police

8:38:29Department does. And I want to make this

8:38:30very clear. So if I ever hear this from

8:38:33anyone in the department, I will

8:38:35probably lose my mind. And the reason

8:38:37why is because you have not had a

8:38:39council in the last decade

8:38:42invest more in the Reno Police

8:38:44Department and believe in the Reno

8:38:46Police Department and protect the blue.

8:38:48And I think that that is really

8:38:49important. But it also comes with a huge

8:38:52responsibility of having the trust of

8:38:56the public.

8:38:58And

8:39:00I it wasn't long ago

8:39:04sadly was and will be one of probably my

8:39:07toughest

8:39:10situations that we have ever ever had to

8:39:13probably deal with um is letting our

8:39:16police chief go and other officers. This

8:39:20is your highest of the high. These are

8:39:22the people that you're supposed to trust

8:39:23the most. I felt sick to my stomach

8:39:27coming in to work that day. I will never

8:39:29forget it. I don't think I slept for

8:39:32four or five days. And when we have

8:39:35those incidences, they do erode the

8:39:37public trust.

8:39:40I am so impressed by you on so many

8:39:45levels. And I've gone through um I've

8:39:48gone through a lot of city managers,

8:39:49probably five or six. I've g I've gone

8:39:52through um police chiefs. And

8:39:56I just can't tell you how impressed I am

8:39:59with your integrity and your love for

8:40:01people because it can be really easy to

8:40:04lose whenever you're in these scenarios

8:40:07of where it's just constant flight and

8:40:10fight or flight, things like that.

8:40:13But I my hope was that we would listen

8:40:15to the public and we would hear exactly

8:40:17what they needed to know about the

8:40:19situation whenever I said I have 50

8:40:22questions and the public has those same

8:40:24same questions

8:40:26and that is a missed opportunity for us

8:40:30to gain the public's trust back. We

8:40:32could have gained it back by doing more

8:40:35outreach, more initiatives, listening to

8:40:37them. The other piece of that is I think

8:40:39there's a question why didn't we go out

8:40:41to RFP? Why did we handle it this way?

8:40:44we should have done a series of

8:40:47community engagement sessions because

8:40:49what I heard today too which I want to

8:40:50thank the public who was here many of

8:40:52you had very um

8:40:56very clear and I thought

8:41:00very levelheaded questions and I heard

8:41:03people say we agree that we don't think

8:41:06that people should be out there wanting

8:41:07to harm each other or or deny that that

8:41:10access is or that those tools are

8:41:13important Right? All of us probably have

8:41:16know and love someone that's been a

8:41:18victim of a crime. And you you know that

8:41:20you want to be able to have justice.

8:41:23There's nothing worse sitting in a

8:41:25courtroom and I've done it where we're

8:41:27just balling because we feel like

8:41:30justice has not been served. But I have

8:41:33a very difficult um two sides because I

8:41:37can feel it. And I do think we we got

8:41:39this incredibly wrong and we should have

8:41:41um done much much more outreach and ni

8:41:45Naomi and I had talked about it from the

8:41:47get-go. So I think we missed a great

8:41:50opportunity to highlight the amazing

8:41:52work that the Reno Police Department

8:41:54does and build the trust with the

8:41:57public. And that's what really makes me

8:41:59sad is we pitted the police department

8:42:01with our public and that should never

8:42:04ever ever happen. Um, but like I said, I

8:42:08this is just my

8:42:10this is just my these are just my

8:42:13feelings because um like I said, I've

8:42:14been through the other side of having,

8:42:18you know, my rights violated

8:42:21and I I can't even explain how it

8:42:25limited my life for the rest of my life.

8:42:28How it keeps me

8:42:30just I had to modify my life. You know,

8:42:34I'm very I'm very probably like a lot of

8:42:37victims would be very angry that it it

8:42:41really took away something that I never

8:42:43thought I had no idea. No idea. And I

8:42:46probably and I'm going to be honest, I

8:42:48probably would have had no idea until

8:42:49that happened to me. No idea how women

8:42:54are fearful of the things that others

8:42:57can do to them. And so that's why I on

8:43:00both sides. So, as much as I'm

8:43:02supportive of this, I think we missed a

8:43:05huge opportunity to do whatever we

8:43:07possibly could to gain the trust of the

8:43:10public, answer all the questions, be as

8:43:12transparent, and I love what you said

8:43:13that the transparent word has just been

8:43:15so overused. And Councilwoman, you said

8:43:19it too. I heard a lot today about our

8:43:20public records. That's got to get

8:43:22cleaned up. Public records is

8:43:24something's got to change. That is

8:43:26unacceptable to the public. And that's

8:43:28another reason why the public doesn't

8:43:31trust us.

8:43:33That sucks. It makes my job so hard. I

8:43:37know all of you guys when we when we

8:43:39hate to see something that we know that

8:43:42we can fix and get better. And so I

8:43:46don't know what that looks like. That's

8:43:47a whole other animal. Lauren, I don't

8:43:49mean to even look at you. It's not like

8:43:50that. It's a it's a ton of other broken

8:43:53things that need to be put back

8:43:55together. But today was really stark

8:43:57about um and that was way before you.

8:43:59Just know that. Um so I'm not blaming,

8:44:03you know, anyone here. I just think

8:44:04there are a lot of things that we could

8:44:05work on to gain the public's trust. And

8:44:08I want them to know you like I know you.

8:44:11When I see you, I smile. I'm excited to

8:44:14be around you. You're so talented. And

8:44:17I, you know, I can't wait to support

8:44:18your future. But this one, I think we

8:44:21stepped in and we could have gotten this

8:44:22right. So, I just I I'm going to have a

8:44:25hard time with this one.

8:44:26>> Mayor, I I appreciate your comments if I

8:44:28have an opportunity to to retort. It's

8:44:30um I've had a storyried career. I've

8:44:32been blessed. I've been able to do some

8:44:33amazing things. Uh being the chief and

8:44:38your faith, our community's faith in me

8:44:40has been the honor of a lifetime. I wear

8:44:43the weight of the world on my shoulders

8:44:45for my department, for the men and

8:44:46women.

8:44:47>> Uh when they get hurt, I've got an adage

8:44:50that I tell everybody, and they're

8:44:51probably getting sick of hearing it. If

8:44:52you're up, I'm up.

8:44:53>> Yeah.

8:44:53>> I want you to make that call. If you've

8:44:55got a question on a notification, if you

8:44:57got a question about what's happening,

8:44:59if you're struggling with a decision,

8:45:00then I've told my entire command staff,

8:45:02my lieutenants, my sergeants, you you're

8:45:04up. I'm up. Call me. Uh I hear all the

8:45:07public comments. I understand that, you

8:45:10know, we're not perfect, that we have

8:45:12made mistakes. Uh but I think that we

8:45:13are absolutely trending in an infectious

8:45:16direction where people want to jump on

8:45:17board our train. They want to be part of

8:45:19what we're doing. They want to be part

8:45:21of what we're doing in our community,

8:45:22not only technology, but what we're

8:45:24doing with our community engagement, how

8:45:26we're redefining systems, how we're

8:45:27bringing people and community together.

8:45:29Uh, and I know that everyone behind me

8:45:32has very strong opinions both for and

8:45:35against this. And I respect that.

8:45:38>> And I just want you to know that

8:45:41I feel all of everyone's concerns.

8:45:44>> Yeah. my department's concerns, my

8:45:46community's concerns, my council's

8:45:47concerns, my city manager's concerns. Uh

8:45:51I can sit up here and promise you that

8:45:53all day long that we will hold people

8:45:55accountable, that we won't allow misuse,

8:45:57that we will use this for good because I

8:45:59truly believe in this. I would not lie

8:46:01to each and every one of you. This is

8:46:02the next evolution of law enforcement.

8:46:04This is 21 for 21st century policing.

8:46:06This is a force multiplier. This is

8:46:08giving us opportunity to make sure that

8:46:11our men and women are safe. So I don't

8:46:14have to send officers in harm's way

8:46:16immediately. They always talk about

8:46:18what's the difference between the public

8:46:19and law enforcement. Public runs away

8:46:20from gunfire. Law enforcement runs

8:46:22towards it.

8:46:23>> And I want to be able to give our team,

8:46:26our community, our men and women every

8:46:28fighting opportunity. I know when that

8:46:30call comes out, they're going to do it

8:46:31because they've done it. I've watched

8:46:33them do it. We want to give them the

8:46:35tools that they need to make our

8:46:36community safe. And I appreciate your

8:46:38comments and I can't even imagine what

8:46:40you went through with that. Uh, so I

8:46:43appreciate where you're coming from and

8:46:44I understand it's a difficult decision

8:46:46for everybody. It's difficult for me to

8:46:48talk about it, but I think that

8:46:51>> the privileges far outweigh the

8:46:52negatives and I'm wearing the weight of

8:46:55everybody for anything that happens with

8:46:57this that is used counter intuitive

8:47:00>> and I and you know I would just say

8:47:02moving forward

8:47:05the public process is so important. RFP

8:47:08public process listening to the feedback

8:47:11having every single question and then

8:47:13that's how um they they do trust you and

8:47:16also I think when they see that we

8:47:18really want to listen and we go through

8:47:20you know some of those workshops and

8:47:22things that you know what is the most

8:47:24important thing to you there were a lot

8:47:26of people said I totally support having

8:47:29you know this type of technology it's

8:47:31the parameters and that I think people

8:47:36absolutely absolutely would not disagree

8:47:38with. Right. So, I think we could have

8:47:40had both. I think we missed an

8:47:42opportunity to build the public trust.

8:47:44And like I said, I'm super sensitive to

8:47:46it because I will couple of my worst

8:47:49days ever in public office or whenever I

8:47:52found a tracker on my car and also um

8:47:54the day that uh Jack and I had to come

8:47:57to work and let the police chief exit.

8:48:04So,

8:48:07>> yeah.

8:48:07>> Anyway, so um just know that I I believe

8:48:11in both, but um I think we could

8:48:15>> comments on the motion, Madam Mayor.

8:48:17>> Sorry, I'm making that comment.

8:48:18>> I know, but I have comments on the

8:48:20motion I've made.

8:48:21>> Yes.

8:48:21>> Would you like to go before me?

8:48:23>> If I may.

8:48:24>> Absolutely.

8:48:24>> Okay. Um I wanted to explain to So, I

8:48:28haven't gone public on this either. When

8:48:30I got this job, I had never been stocked

8:48:32in my life, but I was stocked on this

8:48:35job because I became a council member. I

8:48:36had to get the Reno police involved. I

8:48:39had to get a TPO, which Carl helped me

8:48:41obtain. And [snorts] then I had to

8:48:44consider whether I wanted to extend it

8:48:45past a year, you know, or whatever. I I

8:48:48mean, this is tough. And when the Reno

8:48:51police came to my home and they looked

8:48:54at my security system, which was zero,

8:48:58other than they said after they

8:49:00surveiled the property and they said,

8:49:01"You know what? You have the best

8:49:03surveillance system, the best

8:49:04protection. You have giant dog one and

8:49:07giant dog two and a gated property."

8:49:10Okay. But I also have a walkthrough

8:49:11gate. So it's not like, you know, I just

8:49:13have the gate that's with the clicker.

8:49:15And they said, "We can't recommend

8:49:16anything." I mean, and and I installed

8:49:18one camera on the gate. You know, it's

8:49:21not helping me with the current bear

8:49:23situation, but you know, I got the gate

8:49:25covered. But but the thing is that, you

8:49:27know, these jobs, just like the mayor,

8:49:29this comes with, you know, unexpected

8:49:32issues and responsibilities. I didn't

8:49:34sign up for that. I didn't know that

8:49:36that's what I was engaging with, and I

8:49:38don't know how many other of my

8:49:39colleagues are going to have to go

8:49:40through this. So, I really get what

8:49:42you're trying to do. Um, and I

8:49:44appreciate Mr. Reese's given us some

8:49:46written policies. So that is something I

8:49:48asked for. There's a few ones that I

8:49:51think that I want to understand better.

8:49:53This talks about an audit and what I

8:49:56want to understand and I don't really

8:49:58understand policy 900.02 because that's

8:50:00an internal policy that the council has

8:50:02nothing to do with. I mean that's up to

8:50:04Jackie and the IT person. But the thing

8:50:07is I mean when you report a lot of times

8:50:09you give us a PowerPoint, right? That

8:50:11doesn't have detail. Will there be a

8:50:13detailed report? Will there be detail if

8:50:15the if the public wants to look at that

8:50:18that they can understand that where's

8:50:19this breach and that breach this person

8:50:21was disciplined they did unauthorized

8:50:24search or whatever use of the the

8:50:27technology um I really want to answer on

8:50:29this public records I mean the by law

8:50:32it's 5 days right but then we can get an

8:50:35extension and you guys have I think 30

8:50:37people in your records department it's

8:50:39not up to Lauren the police reports are

8:50:42done by your department Right. The

8:50:44camera, the body cam requests, etc.,

8:50:46etc. The data, right? It's done by you.

8:50:50So, what do you think you can commit to?

8:50:52And I'll ask two more things. You have

8:50:5429 cameras. We've asked for stuff on

8:50:57McCarron, but I not to my knowledge,

8:50:59none of these cameras have been put on

8:51:00McCarron to help with the speeding, the

8:51:02accidents, and so on. And I guess I'm

8:51:04wondering, you know, I understand the

8:51:07focus on downtown, but to council member

8:51:09Anderson thinking that we're going to

8:51:10have cameras in South Reno, we don't

8:51:12even have them 10 minutes from downtown

8:51:14on McCarron, you know, so I'm struggling

8:51:17with that. And then these sensitive

8:51:18locations, I don't see them mentioned

8:51:20here. And I don't I can't imagine what

8:51:22they are. I I got abortion clinics. I

8:51:24don't know if there's a you know, they

8:51:27shouldn't be at the front door of the

8:51:28police department office. I I don't know

8:51:30what all the sensitive locations are. I

8:51:32get that they shouldn't be in a

8:51:33bathroom. I mean, I don't know and I

8:51:35would just like to get it filled out.

8:51:36So, what will the report will it be

8:51:39detailed enough that people can really

8:51:40understand? What is the public records

8:51:43turnaround time? Are there sensitive

8:51:45locations? And what about South Reno or

8:51:47McCarron? M

8:51:49>> Mr. or Chief Sulfurino, if I may please,

8:51:52only because it's my motion. So, you I

8:51:54don't want you to have to justify what

8:51:56I've written. So, the first you can

8:51:57answer.

8:51:58>> I I know. So, I want to just say a

8:51:59couple things. One is that as to

8:52:01sensitive locations, those are covered

8:52:03by policy 900.02. Okay.

8:52:06>> Right. And so I I had not included in

8:52:08the motion because I've said that they

8:52:09must rely upon it for the provisions.

8:52:12>> Do we know even one example of a

8:52:14>> I think the chief could speak to that

8:52:16because I didn't write the policy, but I

8:52:17read the policy.

8:52:19>> Um and so that's one answer. The second

8:52:21thing you asked about is how what type

8:52:23of reporting. Look, I I as I said

8:52:25earlier, I don't want to substitute my

8:52:27judgment for the police chiefs. What my

8:52:29motion says is it has to be is it all

8:52:33these things a lot of data and

8:52:35information and and just so you know

8:52:36where I got that was from the ACLU's

8:52:39white papers regarding ALPRs. Now it

8:52:42sounds like from today's speaker the ALP

8:52:45the ACLU's position has changed. I I'm

8:52:48I'm not sure if I um understand that to

8:52:50be just in Nevada or just their

8:52:52position, but nonetheless, I tried to

8:52:55glean from it the things which it said

8:52:57were the best practices and implement

8:52:59them here. I I want Reno to have the

8:53:01best practices as between banning them

8:53:03or having them unrestricted. I'm looking

8:53:05for best practices.

8:53:06>> Yeah.

8:53:07>> And then other locations like are you

8:53:09going to move beyond downtown or what's

8:53:12>> I think that I apologize. Thank you for

8:53:14the question. Cory Sulfrino for the

8:53:15record. I want our data and our analysts

8:53:17to tell us where we need to deploy them

8:53:19based upon where we're having our

8:53:20vehicle versus pedestrian accidents.

8:53:21I've been working with the mayor with

8:53:23some uh grieving family members for a

8:53:26pedestrian by basically a bicyclist

8:53:29versus a vehicle that we haven't been

8:53:31able to solve because we don't have

8:53:32cameras in that space. They're not speed

8:53:35related. They're not traffic cameras.

8:53:37So, I it doesn't really help for me to

8:53:38put this type of technology for an ALPR

8:53:41to enforce speed limits or to enforce

8:53:43people running red lights. It will help

8:53:45with our street racing where we did an

8:53:47extensive campaign this summer to try to

8:53:49bring that under control because that

8:53:50was getting out of control with barrier

8:53:52and local influencers that would come in

8:53:54and try to do side s sideesides shows

8:53:57and takeovers. So it doesn't help in

8:53:59those types of crime methodology, but I

8:54:01want to do evidence-based practices. I

8:54:03want the intelligenceled policing to

8:54:05drive where we need to do this. We won't

8:54:07put them in private places. They are in

8:54:09public places. Our policy prohibits

8:54:11their use to be in type of any type of

8:54:13church and or um fertil fertility clinic

8:54:18and or abortion type clinic. It it it's

8:54:21explicitly says those uses. So, we're

8:54:23going to let the data drive where we're

8:54:24going to place them.

8:54:25>> So, I'll just wrap up by saying this. I

8:54:28like the mayor wish that we could have

8:54:30done a best practice with public

8:54:32engagement. Like we we asked for the

8:54:34policies. I didn't ask for you to change

8:54:36vendors, right? I just said, "Could you

8:54:38come and have a conversation?" The

8:54:40public could have been involved. They

8:54:41could have been heard. We could have

8:54:42said, "We heard you and therefore here's

8:54:45a policy that commit, you know, council

8:54:47member Reese recommended to address the

8:54:49issue. We they could have told us what

8:54:52they'd like to see. We could have added

8:54:54our own brain, you know, our own

8:54:55thoughts and it's just a much more

8:54:57rewarding process where we engage the

8:54:59pro public in a very hot topic, you

8:55:02know, very hot topic. And I think it's a

8:55:04little I don't know if the word is

8:55:07patronizing or we think we're better

8:55:09than everybody. I know we'll take you

8:55:11know we hear we heard Naomi she wants

8:55:12some policies. We'll we'll adopt some

8:55:14policies and we'll change vendors and

8:55:16we'll do all these things. I'm just

8:55:18asking for future councils to be

8:55:20involved in in those discussions in a

8:55:22step-wise manner where they can have

8:55:24legitimate input, not be here's our

8:55:26thing, yes or no.

8:55:28>> Okay.

8:55:28>> Okay. Councilman Ree,

8:55:30>> thank you so much. I I also wanted to

8:55:31make sure I read into the record so that

8:55:33Miss Der you had it. But our technology

8:55:36um policy prohib prohibits using that

8:55:38technology or accessing it for

8:55:40searching, monitoring, sharing

8:55:42information out of pure personal

8:55:43curiosity, personal benefit,

8:55:45retaliation, harassment, impermissible

8:55:47bias, political interest, media

8:55:49interest, romantic or family interest,

8:55:51or any purpose outside of official

8:55:53duties. Right, which should cover the

8:55:55areas. Um, and so I I I suppose I wanted

8:55:58to explain to my colleagues why I have

8:56:00taken the opportunity to do the work and

8:56:03put together this very detailed motion.

8:56:05Certainly in the time that I've been in

8:56:07the uh office, which is eight years, I

8:56:09have never taken the approach. But one

8:56:11is because I have had those deep

8:56:13conversations with members of our

8:56:15community who are very much in the um

8:56:19camp of saying this technology is a

8:56:22problem, right? and and you know where I

8:56:25started is not where I've ended up,

8:56:26right? And and sometimes that's uh

8:56:28thankful to my children who are three of

8:56:31the most intelligent people who are um

8:56:33much further on the political spectrum

8:56:35and to the left of me uh probably find

8:56:37themselves aligning with some of the

8:56:39very speakers that were here and to have

8:56:41to justify what I do to my children I

8:56:44think makes me a better human. But I

8:56:46want to explain why I've supported the

8:56:48agreement. It's based on the listening

8:56:49that I have done, not only to my

8:56:51colleagues, but also the public. Um,

8:56:53Madame Mayor and Miss Der who have um

8:56:56substantially more experience on the

8:56:57body than I do. Um, also um approach

8:57:01problem solving differently and that's

8:57:02what we bring to the table as

8:57:04difference. I oftentimes find myself

8:57:05being the lawyer and just want to fix

8:57:07and rush to do a thing and I've been

8:57:09told I don't like process, right? And so

8:57:12to the extent I'm guilty of that, I

8:57:13apologize to both of my colleagues and

8:57:15certainly to Madame Mayor. Um I think

8:57:17that we have spent a lot of time talking

8:57:19about this over the last two years. Um

8:57:21our police officers need modern tools.

8:57:23Uh Reno is a growing our public safety

8:57:25challenges I think are very real and our

8:57:27resources are limited. Right. This

8:57:29agreement is about much more than

8:57:31license plate readers although they may

8:57:32have been the focus today and and may be

8:57:34the butt of the issues that people have.

8:57:36It includes bodywn cameras, in-car

8:57:39video, digital digital evidence

8:57:40management technology that helps

8:57:42officers with investigations. um the

8:57:45translation things that we we didn't

8:57:46even talk about um in room cameras in

8:57:50our new public safety center. It's a

8:57:52substantial investment obviously. It's

8:57:53$2.7 million a year and we of course

8:57:56will need to measure whether it will

8:57:57deliver those results. I also know

8:57:59people are certainly and they've

8:58:00expressed today that they're worried

8:58:02about surveillance. Some of those fears

8:58:04come from very real examples of misuse

8:58:06and also about the loss of trust in

8:58:07government. And I've heard that from a

8:58:09lot of the folks who I spoke to, not

8:58:10only heard from today, but also spoke

8:58:12with in the community. We've had our own

8:58:14difficult conversations of course here

8:58:16in this um body about police leadership

8:58:18and accountability. I take those

8:58:20concerns very seriously and I think

8:58:21trust is earned. Um we have rules. We

8:58:24need not just platitudes or assurances

8:58:27but we have to um not ask people to

8:58:29accept it just because we said so. And I

8:58:31of course just because government has

8:58:32the ability to collect information does

8:58:34not mean it should have unlimited

8:58:35authority to keep it. That's why I've

8:58:37said there should be a 14-day limit.

8:58:39Now, I will tell you, two weeks ago, I

8:58:41was at 30 days. And I thought, well,

8:58:42that's just great. 30 days, that's great

8:58:44for you. Um, but, um, several

8:58:46conversations today and several that I

8:58:48had earlier in the week, um, thank you,

8:58:50Josh, have led me to believe that it

8:58:52should be significantly lower. Uh,

8:58:53routine, uh, license plate reader

8:58:55information that is not tied to

8:58:57documented lawful investigations should

8:58:59be deleted within 14 days of collection

8:59:02unless it requires a valid reason for

8:59:04uh, preservation, and that would be

8:59:06something that your department has to

8:59:07identify. I think local control matters

8:59:10too. Uh Reno's information should not be

8:59:12shared automatically or accessed

8:59:13indirectly in ways that bypass our

8:59:15rules. Uh we need to know who's using

8:59:17the system, why, and whether those

8:59:19restrictions are being followed. Um the

8:59:20Reno Police Department policy, which

8:59:22I've referred to and have spent some

8:59:24time reviewing over the last two weeks,

8:59:26is really about setting important

8:59:28standards for constitutional uh

8:59:29policing, authorized use, controlled

8:59:31sharing, collaborations, automated

8:59:33alerts, all those things. We are going

8:59:35to require if this motion passes

8:59:37quarterly audits of those technologies

8:59:39that are covered by that policy, every 3

8:59:41months, the police chief is going to

8:59:42report to the city council uh either in

8:59:44writing or through a presentation with

8:59:46that report available to the public and

8:59:48appropriate protections of course for

8:59:50your sensitive information. Um and of

8:59:52course if a new council should choose to

8:59:54do something different, it'll have that

8:59:56ability to do so and we'll take our

8:59:58direction from that body. I think our

9:00:00responsibilities don't end with this

9:00:01vote, right? I want to see how the

9:00:02technology is being used, whether it's

9:00:04helping to solve crimes, what the audits

9:00:06find, what happens when problems arise.

9:00:09If we need to change course, of course,

9:00:10we can because my motion has included a

9:00:1330-day clause. And of course, I have no

9:00:16belief or knowledge as to whether the

9:00:18oppo other party on the side of the

9:00:19contract is going to agree to that. But

9:00:21without it, I will not be supporting it.

9:00:23Right? I respect residents who would

9:00:25make a different decision than I would.

9:00:26I hear also from people, we had many of

9:00:29them today, who want to give officers

9:00:30every reasonable tool in neighborhoods

9:00:32to keep families safe. Uh both concerns

9:00:35deserve serious attention and I don't

9:00:36think either person who has made those

9:00:39arguments does so um out of malice or of

9:00:42ill heart. I think um everyone does want

9:00:45fundamentally the same thing. Sometimes

9:00:46how we get there is very different. I

9:00:48also don't believe like Madame Mayor

9:00:49said that we have to choose between

9:00:50public safety and personal freedom. I

9:00:53think we can equip our officers with the

9:00:55to protect constitutional rights to hold

9:00:57government accountable and those

9:00:58protections we establish should last

9:01:00beyond one chief, one council or even

9:01:02one vendor. And so that's why I have

9:01:04made these conditions important part of

9:01:06it and and I hope that folks who have

9:01:09stayed in tune and have been watching

9:01:10all day long because we're now going on

9:01:12seven eight nine hours some of this

9:01:14conversation would see that this is a

9:01:16movement to answer those questions. So

9:01:19that's what I would say on it and thank

9:01:20you madam mayor for the indulgence.

9:01:23Okay. Any other comments?

9:01:26>> No.

9:01:28>> Sorry.

9:01:29>> Council neighbor, did you have any

9:01:30comments?

9:01:31>> Yeah, I I did.

9:01:32>> Okay. Go ahead.

9:01:32>> Um I just wanted to say I'm I'm

9:01:34concerned that the 14day

9:01:38um expiration for uh data on that's been

9:01:44requested might not be allowed by NRS.

9:01:47Um, that's why I asked if if they have

9:01:51information about what is the document

9:01:53retention policy by state law. Um,

9:01:57regardless, I'm not I'm not supporting

9:02:00uh the contract, but I just wanted to

9:02:02get that on the record that we might not

9:02:04be able to promise that uh 14-day um

9:02:08[clears throat] record deletion.

9:02:13Um, and you know that is one thing I do

9:02:16want to point out. We have been here for

9:02:19a long time today and that goes to show

9:02:21you the level of engagement that the

9:02:24community really wants to see cuz they

9:02:26want to have the trust. And I still have

9:02:28like so many more um questions because

9:02:31technology changes every single day like

9:02:34so quickly and what happens when that

9:02:37becomes obsolete and is there an

9:02:39opportunity for a pilot of a year and

9:02:42why would we lock in this price? and

9:02:44what are the other things that we might

9:02:45have to pay for upgrades because you

9:02:49know how often is that technology

9:02:51um obsolete just so many things that I

9:02:54think even the public today will walk

9:02:56away and say I I didn't quite understand

9:02:58that or could have understood this

9:03:01better or that better but um anyway so

9:03:05okay uh so no more comments

9:03:08>> just I just want to know do you have an

9:03:10answer on the public records can you

9:03:11make a commitment that if there's a

9:03:14request for information that is

9:03:16legitimately allowed to be released. I

9:03:19mean, is is all of this data private or

9:03:22is this to be shared with the public?

9:03:24I'm unclear.

9:03:27>> The amount of records request, thank you

9:03:29for the question, ma'am. Cory Sino, for

9:03:31the record. The amount of requests

9:03:32coming into our department, we're taking

9:03:34over 30,000 cases a year. Some of those

9:03:36cases have crime reports. Some of them

9:03:38have evidentiary photos. Some of them

9:03:40have body warn camera footage. Some of

9:03:41them have fleet video camera footage.

9:03:44Depending upon the scope and scale of

9:03:46the request, some of them are multiple

9:03:48incidents, multiple officers, multiple

9:03:50days. You can't redact that. You can't

9:03:52give that out. So, what our team does is

9:03:54statutoily we're required to respond,

9:03:56and I'll defer to legal within 5 days of

9:03:58that initial request to talk about how

9:04:00long it's going to take, right? some of

9:04:02the associated cost affiliated with that

9:04:04request because of the volumes of data

9:04:06that we have to comb through to make

9:04:08sure that we're protecting victims, that

9:04:09we're protecting juveniles, that we're

9:04:10protecting everybody in there.

9:04:12>> But you did say that this uh this should

9:04:14make that process easier. I thought this

9:04:16can do

9:04:17>> there's an opportunity correct in there

9:04:19with that software to automatically

9:04:21start combing through that data. So when

9:04:23the request comes through, yes, we do

9:04:25believe that this will help us

9:04:26streamline that process. But when I came

9:04:28in uh we had we had a and some requests

9:04:31we had a four and a half year fiveyear

9:04:33waiting for for records request and a

9:04:36lot of that is narrowing the scope right

9:04:37we want to get those things out there

9:04:39we're trying to eliminate the fishing

9:04:41expeditions that's what takes

9:04:43>> exorbitant amount of resources and time

9:04:45to be able to do I once had a request

9:04:47because I worked in a drug interdiction

9:04:48unit for every single traffic stop every

9:04:51single traffic uh related incident that

9:04:53I'd ever done every dog deployment every

9:04:54record I carried six 8 inch binders with

9:04:58me everywhere I went because when my

9:05:00qualifications came into question, it

9:05:02was like here's my binder. It's all in

9:05:04there.

9:05:04>> I hear you. Wow. Um just if we're going

9:05:07to um

9:05:10what is the word? Delete the data in 14

9:05:12days. Um somebody's going to have to be

9:05:14pretty quick with their request. And I

9:05:17guess you're going to have to retain

9:05:18that data till you can answer their

9:05:19public record request, [clears throat]

9:05:21right? I mean,

9:05:22>> I guess we're kind of confusing what

9:05:23public what record they're requesting.

9:05:26>> Yeah. Can I interject for a moment on

9:05:28this point? Uh, madame mayor, uh, Mark

9:05:30Dunigan, city attorney's office. With

9:05:32with respect to council member Eert's

9:05:34comment, uh, there is some basis in the

9:05:37statute. Um, body warn cameras are

9:05:40governed by chapter 289 and the

9:05:42provision for the footage that is

9:05:43captured on bodywn camera uh, must be

9:05:46retained by the law enforcement agency

9:05:48for not less than 15 days. Now, this

9:05:50wasn't written with a view toward ALPR

9:05:53video, but there is at least some

9:05:55rational basis in the statute. So, I

9:05:57might suggest changing uh that motion

9:06:00language to 15 days instead of 14 might

9:06:03be more defensible.

9:06:05>> Okay.

9:06:07>> Yeah, certainly. Um if that's the advice

9:06:10of the city uh attorney's office to go

9:06:12from 14 days to 15 days. Yeah. No

9:06:15objection to me or by me to that. uh we

9:06:18can't do anything that would be contrary

9:06:20to state law right so if if some

9:06:22provision of any of these things is

9:06:24contrary to state law it would be um

9:06:26removed or it would be uh interineated

9:06:29you know certain through so obviously I

9:06:30don't want to be the test case for that

9:06:32so if it's 15 days rather than 14 that

9:06:35the goal is that these a lot of the

9:06:37crimes that were described chief by your

9:06:39team were things where we knew in a very

9:06:41immediate time right the other thing is

9:06:44I think there's some I I don't know how

9:06:46to explain it but it's like you take

9:06:48something and it becomes evidence once

9:06:49you know it's evidence it's going to get

9:06:50moved to a different part of the

9:06:52evidentiary chain right and then that is

9:06:55re is saved right and so to the extent

9:06:58we have to comply with any state laws we

9:07:00would that if that's 15 days and the

9:07:02advice of the attorney is that then

9:07:03certainly my motion is amended uh which

9:07:06would require a second to include the u

9:07:0915 days

9:07:10>> okay so I have a new motion from council

9:07:12ree second by council Taylor

9:07:17um Okay. So, I have a motion.

9:07:18>> Oh, I think Mr. Martinez

9:07:20>> and a second.

9:07:21>> I just had a quick comment.

9:07:22>> You what?

9:07:23>> I had a quick question comment. Yeah,

9:07:25it's going to be fast. I just wanted to

9:07:26see um as was mentioned during the

9:07:29comment for the last motion if the

9:07:33provider doesn't agree to the terms that

9:07:36we as customers are sending back. what

9:07:38happens if I can ask our legal counsel

9:07:40in that process and would it come back

9:07:42to us or what would what's the process

9:07:45or the timeline if that were to occur?

9:07:49>> Uh the timeline uh Mark Dunigan for the

9:07:51record the timeline is going to depend

9:07:53on the interactions between uh the city

9:07:56and the vendor. Um but this if the

9:08:00vendor were to not accept these terms

9:08:02then there would be no deal and what

9:08:04we'd be looking at is bringing another

9:08:06item forward with uh some other language

9:08:09potentially.

9:08:10>> Thank you for putting on the record and

9:08:11I'll just mention and I think it's been

9:08:13spread throughout but we're putting a

9:08:14lot of trust and faith in you um and all

9:08:16of the folks in the Rena Police

9:08:18Department to ensure that we're using

9:08:20this technology safely and we're looking

9:08:22forward to how you're going to implement

9:08:24these tools. Thank you.

9:08:28Okay. Thank you so much. Okay.

9:08:30>> Did you have a comment?

9:08:31>> No. No. I'm vote.

9:08:33>> All right. Uh I have a motion. I have a

9:08:35second. All those in favor say I.

9:08:37>> I.

9:08:38>> All those opposed?

9:08:39>> Opposed.

9:08:40>> Um so I think

9:08:43uh Madame Clerk, a roll call vote.

9:08:46>> Sure. Uh Council Member Taylor,

9:08:48>> I. Council member Derer,

9:08:50>> I.

9:08:52>> Vice Mayor Martinez,

9:08:53>> I. Council member Eert

9:08:56>> opposed.

9:08:57>> Council member Ree

9:08:58>> I.

9:09:00>> Council member Anderson

9:09:01>> I.

9:09:02>> And Mayor Sheibi

9:09:03>> opposed.

9:09:05Uh motion passes 52.

9:09:07>> Okay.

9:09:08All right. Um that being said, what

9:09:12else? Um

9:09:14>> thank you, Madam Mayor.

9:09:15>> We are going to push items C2 and C4,

9:09:18that's Charlie 2, Charlie 4 to another

9:09:21time. and we're going to go ahead and

9:09:23move into item C3.

9:09:26>> Yes. So, we are actually I'm going to

9:09:28make everyone get up

9:09:30>> and um for 15 minutes.

9:09:32>> Okay.

9:09:32>> I need everyone to get up, get something

9:09:34to eat, and then come back. And then I

9:09:37think we are we going to modify Jackie?

9:09:39>> Did it.

9:09:39>> You did.

9:09:40>> 23.

9:09:43We eliminated two.

9:09:46We're going to keep

9:09:50>> C34

9:09:53and four gone. Okay.

9:09:56>> I said I was staying

9:10:02until

9:10:15>> Are we in break? Can I get a motion?

9:10:18Hang on. I got

9:10:44Hello and welcome to the Reno Minute.

9:10:46I'm Chris Payne. We're here this week

9:10:48with Reno Public Safety Dispatch to

9:10:50discuss calling 911. Erin, what tips do

9:10:52you have for the community?

9:10:53>> Well, definitely it's a life-saving

9:10:55life-threatening emergency. You need to

9:10:57call 911. Things for immediate police,

9:10:59fire, medical response. Make sure you

9:11:01know your location to give the call

9:11:02taker and only use text to 911 if you

9:11:05can't make a voice call.

9:11:06>> This is good information to know. And

9:11:08what should the residents also know

9:11:09about dispatch?

9:11:10>> We do have a non-emergency number for

9:11:12all the rest of the calls that aren't

9:11:14emergencies. 334 cops. Those are things

9:11:16for like a parking problems or graffiti.

9:11:19It's also important to know that our

9:11:20call takers take over a half a million

9:11:22calls a year. So, we get pretty busy,

9:11:24but we're always looking for more

9:11:25dispatchers. If you're interested, go to

9:11:27reno.gov/dispatch for a job description.

9:11:29Outstanding information. Thank you,

9:11:31Erin. And don't forget to follow the

9:11:32city of Reno on all of your favorite

9:11:34social media platforms. So now you know

9:11:36with Reno. I'm Chris Payne for the Reno

9:11:39Minute.

9:11:42Hello, I'm Chris Payne and it's time for

9:11:44the Reno Minute.

9:11:46From lap swimming and dropin sports to

9:11:48fitness equipment, the city of Reno

9:11:50offers many opportunities to get active

9:11:52and have fun. You may even be able to

9:11:54access these offerings at no cost.

9:11:57Kayla, what should residents know about

9:11:59insurance reimbursement?

9:12:00>> Thanks, Chris. Our parks and recreation

9:12:03department recently expanded their

9:12:04offerings with insurance companies,

9:12:06offering memberships to them at no cost.

9:12:08>> Well, this is exciting. How does it work

9:12:10and who qualifies?

9:12:12>> Yeah, the program offers memberships

9:12:13through their individual insurance

9:12:15company. The intern company then

9:12:17reimburse the city of Reno for each

9:12:18visit that they come and use our

9:12:20facilities. The expansion of this

9:12:22program is especially beneficial to our

9:12:25seniors. However, it qualifies anyone 18

9:12:27or older. You just need to contact your

9:12:29insurance company.

9:12:30>> Thank you, Kayla. And don't forget to

9:12:32contact your insurance company to learn

9:12:33more. Visit reno.gov/parksandre

9:12:36for more information. So now you know

9:12:38with Reno. I'm Chris [music] Payne for

9:12:40the Reno Minute. Hello, I'm Chris Payne

9:12:43and it's time for the Reno Minute.

9:12:46Today we're excited [music] to spotlight

9:12:48the city's new rolling recreation

9:12:50center. a mobile recreation center

9:12:52designed to bring fun [music] and

9:12:53activities to communities across the

9:12:54city. Here's Kayla Snow to tell us more.

9:12:57>> Thanks, Chris. Our rolling recreation

9:12:58center is all about making accessible

9:13:00recreation for everyone in our

9:13:02community. Our mobile recreation center

9:13:04travels to various parks following the

9:13:06schedule of the Food Bank of Northern

9:13:08Nevada Kids Cafe Summer Meals Program.

9:13:10This means that not only do kids get

9:13:12free recreational activities, but also a

9:13:14free meal. Our program offers a wide

9:13:17range of activities for people of all

9:13:19ages, including sports, games, arts and

9:13:22crafts, and so much more. The Rolling

9:13:24Recreation Center is free and open to

9:13:26the public. We welcome everyone of all

9:13:28ages to come out, have fun, and enjoy

9:13:30our city parks.

9:13:31>> Thank you, Kayla. Visit reno.gov/parks

9:13:34[music] andre to find out when the

9:13:35rolling recreation trailer rolls through

9:13:37a park near you. So now you know with

9:13:40Reno. Thank you for watching the [music]

9:13:41Reno Minute. Hello, I'm Chris Payne and

9:13:44it's time for the Reno Minute.

9:13:48It's back to school time and we're here

9:13:50with Officer [music] Johnson from the

9:13:51Reno Police Department to discuss some

9:13:53great reminders on how to keep our

9:13:55students safe.

9:13:57>> Hey, thanks Chris. Here at the Reno

9:13:59Police Department, we want to ensure a

9:14:00safe school year for every child in our

9:14:02community. And so, we have some

9:14:04important tips and reminders for

9:14:05drivers. Slow down in school zones.

9:14:08Always adhere to posted speed limits.

9:14:10Stop for school buses. It's illegal to

9:14:12pass a school bus that is stopped to

9:14:14unload or load children. Yield to

9:14:16pedestrians, especially in school zones

9:14:19and residential areas. Avoid

9:14:21distractions such as using your phone

9:14:23while driving. The Reno Police

9:14:25Department will be increasing

9:14:26enforcement in and around schools this

9:14:28summer and fall to help keep all of our

9:14:30students and pedestrians safe. Thank

9:14:32you, Officer Johnson. [music] And don't

9:14:34forget to follow City of Reno and RPD on

9:14:36all of your favorite social media

9:14:37platforms. [music] So now you know we're

9:14:39with Reno. Thank you for watching the

9:14:41Reno Minute. Hello, I'm Chris Payne and

9:14:43it's time for the Reno Minute.

9:14:46Today, we're excited to spotlight the

9:14:48city's new rolling recreation center, a

9:14:50mobile recreation center designed to

9:14:52bring fun and activities to communities

9:14:54across the city. Here's Kayla Snow to

9:14:56tell us more.

9:14:57>> Thanks, Chris. Our Rolling Recreation

9:14:58Center is all about making accessible

9:15:00recreation for everyone in our

9:15:02community. Our mobile recreation center

9:15:04travels to various parks following the

9:15:06schedule of the Food Bank of Northern

9:15:08Nevada Kids Cafe summer meals program.

9:15:10This means that not only do kids get

9:15:12free recreational activities, but also a

9:15:14free meal. Our program offers a wide

9:15:17range of activities for people of all

9:15:19ages, including sports, games, arts, and

9:15:22crafts, and so much more. The Rolling

9:15:24Recreation Center is free and open to

9:15:26the public. We welcome everyone of all

9:15:28ages to come out, have fun, and enjoy

9:15:30our city parks. Thank you, Kayla. Visit

9:15:33reno.gov/parksrec [music]

9:15:35to find out when the rolling recreation

9:15:36trailer rolls through a park near you.

9:15:38So now you know with Reno. Thank you for

9:15:41watching [music] the Reno Minute.

9:16:31Hello, I'm Chris Payne and it's time for

9:16:33the Reno Minute.

9:16:36If you're looking for a career in a

9:16:38fast-paced environment, perhaps [music]

9:16:39becoming a Reno Police Officer could be

9:16:42for you. Let's go inside and speak with

9:16:44Officer Hunter Mccurio and find out

9:16:46more.

9:16:47>> Thanks, Chris. The Reno Police

9:16:48Department is on a continuous hiring

9:16:50basis. If you're interested in finding a

9:16:52career in law enforcement and finding a

9:16:53job with purpose, come join us today.

9:16:56Also, being a Reno police officer in

9:16:58Reno makes my city not just livable, but

9:16:59lovable. Every day looks completely

9:17:02different and you're normally going to

9:17:03somebody's worst day. But you get to be

9:17:05that opportunity to make a change in

9:17:06their life and hopefully better their

9:17:08day. If you're interested in becoming a

9:17:10police officer, go to the city of Reno

9:17:12jobs page and apply for the police

9:17:13officer recruit position. If you have

9:17:15any questions about becoming a police

9:17:16[music] officer, want to come do a ride

9:17:18along with us, you can reach me at

9:17:19recruiter reno.gov or you can reach me

9:17:22at my phone number [music] 775-4370043.

9:17:26Thanks.

9:17:32I'm Corey. I'm a housing manager with

9:17:34the city of Reno and we are here at our

9:17:36second Love Your Block project pop-up

9:17:38nursery for Yori [music] Avenue

9:17:39residents. We had residents of this

9:17:42neighborhood apply and we've got about

9:17:4475 plants and trees here to give out to

9:17:47the neighbors to beautify the

9:17:49neighborhood, get a little more green

9:17:51here. One day of planting and a lifetime

9:17:53of shade and and beautiful greenery in

9:17:55the neighborhood. The Yori Papa nursery

9:17:58is project that my neighbor and I kind

9:18:00of came up with. People get to beautify

9:18:02their yards. Sometimes landscaping is

9:18:03intimidating due to the cost. this

9:18:05initiative, this project helps kind of

9:18:08eliminate that obstacle for a lot of

9:18:09people. And so it'll be nice to see more

9:18:12plants in more people's yards and just

9:18:14make more of a beautiful neighborhood.

9:18:16Uh [music] secondarily, I'm a huge fan

9:18:18of pollinators and native plants. And so

9:18:20getting more of those in the ground is

9:18:22just going to help the environment

9:18:23overall.

9:18:25It's super exciting. I love this

9:18:27project. [music] I started the bee

9:18:28friendly campaign, which was created to

9:18:31help people talk to their neighbors. So,

9:18:33a lot of times when you start a

9:18:34pollinator garden in your front yard, it

9:18:36doesn't look like a traditional yard.

9:18:38So, I created these signs to kind of

9:18:39help with communication. It's a great

9:18:42neighborhood [music] gathering, and I'm

9:18:44super proud to be a part of it. We're

9:18:46just so excited to be here in

9:18:47partnership with Reno Food Systems, Be

9:18:49Friendly Nevada, and the Nevada Division

9:18:51of Forestry alongside all these

9:18:53neighbors to to get in the neighborhood

9:18:55and get planting.

9:19:12For me, I I've been president for four

9:19:14years. I've really made a commitment to

9:19:17work very closely with the city of Reno,

9:19:20with the Wo County Commission, with the

9:19:22city of Sparks, with all of Northern

9:19:25Nevada to really emphasize what we have

9:19:29here. I grew up in Northern Nevada. I

9:19:31grew up actually in Sparks and went to

9:19:34grade school, high school, and this

9:19:35incredible university. It was an

9:19:38incredible place to grow up and I'm

9:19:40really part proud of this community. I

9:19:42truly believe that a great university

9:19:44needs a great city and a great city

9:19:46needs a great university. And it's very

9:19:48rare to have the proximity of a

9:19:51university to a to a downtown Reno and

9:19:55then also essentially have the two grow

9:19:57up together. This university was founded

9:20:00in 1874 at Elco, moved to Reno in 1885,

9:20:05not too far from where I'm sitting. It

9:20:07was this university that grew up on a

9:20:10hill overlooking the city for everyone

9:20:13to admire and just an example of what we

9:20:16can aspire to. I personally believe, you

9:20:19know, this should be a university town

9:20:22that people are really proud of this

9:20:24campus and what it is and the

9:20:27opportunity for their sons and daughters

9:20:28to come here and get an incredible

9:20:31education. This is a destination where

9:20:34students can become whatever it is they

9:20:36dream about [music] being and have an

9:20:38incredible experience, feel safe, make

9:20:41lifetime friends, [music]

9:20:42get mentored by some of the best faculty

9:20:44in in the United States of America. This

9:20:47is an incredible place. And I've said

9:20:49over and over again, it shouldn't be a

9:20:51secret anymore, a well-kept secret. It's

9:20:54my personal belief that the future of

9:20:55this university is growing south to down

9:20:58into downtown [music] Reno. If I had a

9:21:00magic wand, um I would create a

9:21:02university district. You know, we we

9:21:05renamed working with [music] the city,

9:21:07we renamed Center Street from the

9:21:09Truckucky River forward to the

9:21:11University Way. And I would love to see

9:21:13on both sides uh east and west of that

9:21:16street, restaurants,

9:21:19uh student housing, faculty housing,

9:21:21graduate student housing, where all the

9:21:24community comes. This is something

9:21:26you'll see in a lot of great cities

9:21:28where there are these these districts.

9:21:30The city has made a lot of investments

9:21:32through um through the years to make it

9:21:34a beautiful place where people again can

9:21:36recreate and and eat and just go for a

9:21:39walk [music] and and what have you. When

9:21:41we were in high school, everyone used to

9:21:43cruise Maine and there was all this

9:21:46activity and I can see that happening

9:21:49again. Laurelyn and I, my wife, um we

9:21:52really enjoy coming downtown to to go to

9:21:55the restaurants, go to the special

9:21:57events, the hot August nights and

9:21:59everything that that's happening. And if

9:22:01you haven't been downtown for a for a

9:22:04long time, [music] I would really

9:22:05encourage people to give it another

9:22:07opportunity to come because I think

9:22:09they'll be pleasantly surprised.

9:22:24>> [music]

9:22:28>> Grab a slice, hit a ride, get a rush,

9:22:30and roll the dice. Step into a world

9:22:32where Nevada's northern lights shine

9:22:34bright and [music] last calls are rare

9:22:36in a city that never sleeps. Where the

9:22:38spirit of the Wild West lives on [music]

9:22:40through daring rapids and rocking out

9:22:42goes beyond the crowds. Founded on the

9:22:44rebels of resilience, we aren't what you

9:22:46expected. [music] We're what's coming.

9:22:49We don't just embrace downtown. We

9:22:51infuse it with life. We are a [music]

9:22:52convergence of adventure, art, and

9:22:54taste. It's not just our city. It's our

9:22:57identity. The mighty Truckucky, our

9:22:58lifeline, and the [music] Nevada sky as

9:23:00our backdrop. Downtown Reno is a tribute

9:23:02to our roots and a leap into the future.

9:23:04Discover 110 blocks of stories of

9:23:07residents, entrepreneurs, creators, and

9:23:09masters of their craft coming together

9:23:11in the spirit [music] of discovery and

9:23:12progress in a city that never ceases to

9:23:15reinvent itself. We are the unexpected.

9:23:17Been a while. [music] Downtown Reno

9:23:19invites you to rise with us again.

9:23:21What's your story?

9:23:34I used to come for the station. I used

9:23:36to come here and enjoy the hotels and go

9:23:38down to the river and and I was familiar

9:23:40with the automobile museum, but I never

9:23:42in a million years thought I'd be

9:23:44working [music] here. My name is Philip

9:23:46McDougall. I'm the president of the

9:23:47National Automobile Museum. The history

9:23:50of the National Automobile Museum goes

9:23:51way, way back. So, most people know the

9:23:53name Hera from the casinos, but they

9:23:55don't know the story behind it. Mr.

9:23:57Hera, he had a collection of 1,400 of

9:24:00the most unbelievable cars. And [music]

9:24:02when he passed, he didn't have a will.

9:24:04The community got together and they

9:24:05said, "You can't sell all these things.

9:24:07This is part of our community. It's part

9:24:09of our identity. We need to keep them

9:24:11here." They raised money to build the

9:24:13museum. The city said, "We're going to

9:24:14contribute the land. If you get the

9:24:16money to build it, and then the Holiday

9:24:18Inn, who purchased all the assets of Mr.

9:24:21Harris collection and said if you do all

9:24:22that then we're going to throw in 175

9:24:25cars of the total collection of400. So

9:24:28all those things came together because

9:24:29the community thought it was important

9:24:31and in 1989 the museum was opened up. We

9:24:35want to be a community partner and we

9:24:37are right. We have events we have older

9:24:39cars, newer cars. Elvis's car, Jurassic

9:24:42Park, Back to the Future. We have a

9:24:44brand new children's educational

9:24:45activity center. 3,000 square ft [music]

9:24:48of technology for those kids and adults

9:24:51to get hands-on experience on how cars

9:24:54work, how next generation of technology

9:24:56was created. We wanted to be different.

9:24:59We wanted to embrace the community, be a

9:25:01community partner. We did a complete

9:25:03renovation and then we went out with an

9:25:04active campaign, not in that car mode,

9:25:07not museum mode, but outdoor concerts,

9:25:09speakers, parties, birthdays, and a

9:25:12whole new selection of cars. I think the

9:25:15biggest change is that we have a new

9:25:17exhibit every 60 days. It really is fun

9:25:20to watch how a family can come in and

9:25:22they'll just go in five different

9:25:24directions because we have something for

9:25:26every generation. It's not just a

9:25:27building. It's not just the cars that

9:25:29are in there. It's the people. It's the

9:25:30livelihoods of everybody that's around

9:25:32this town that keeps us going. The

9:25:34downtown partnership has been a

9:25:36lifesaver for us. Just helping us

9:25:38overall in the day-to-day challenges we

9:25:40have. Like any business downtown, we

9:25:42can't make it without the security

9:25:44issues addressed, without the

9:25:45communication addressed, [music] and

9:25:47it's all one big team down here. So, the

9:25:49restaurants help us, the uh businesses

9:25:52help us, everyone here. We all kind of

9:25:54depend on each other. And that's what

9:25:56we're trying to bring to the equation is

9:25:58another partner who can help us all be a

9:26:00little bit stronger and a bigger

9:26:01community partner. Uh, I see a greater

9:26:03emphasis from the downtown partnership,

9:26:06from the elected officials, than the

9:26:08community [music] leaders to get

9:26:09together and say, "If we really want to

9:26:11succeed, we have to succeed as a group.

9:26:14No silos, the restaurants, the

9:26:16businesses, [music]

9:26:17uh, the the gas stations, everybody

9:26:20that's here has to get a common bond.

9:26:22Otherwise, we're not going to succeed.

9:26:24It's the storytelling. It's the

9:26:25camaraderie. And we had that not only

9:26:27with us in the museum, but all the local

9:26:29businesses downtown here. We have the

9:26:31same common bond and passion. Downtown

9:26:34Reno is the place to be. It's a family

9:26:37place. It has something for everybody.

9:26:39Come to the museum. Go to a local

9:26:41restaurant. You're going to feel safe.

9:26:43You're going to have fun. And you're

9:26:44going to be 15 minutes away from

9:26:46wherever you live.

9:27:01>> [music]

9:27:10>> What home means Nevada to me is is

9:27:12[music] just that it's always a place

9:27:14that I find comfort and soulless. We

9:27:17travel a lot. We camp a lot. And I just

9:27:20love coming home. Home Means Nevada for

9:27:22so many reasons. My name is Scott Dunith

9:27:25and I'm the owner of the Home Means

9:27:27Nevada company which was formerly Reno

9:27:29Envy. I grew up in the Bay Area and I

9:27:32went to school at UNR and my thought was

9:27:34that I would spend 2 years in Reno and

9:27:37then I would go back home. But after

9:27:39[music] the two years, I just fell in

9:27:41love with the place. I love the people,

9:27:42the community. It's just been awesome. I

9:27:45[music] was talking to a friend. I was

9:27:47giving him my address and so I told him

9:27:49Scott Dunya D Reno Envy 89523 and he's

9:27:53like Reno Envy. I'm like Reno Envy. So

9:27:56it was kind of at that moment that was

9:27:57our aha moment [music] where I realized

9:28:00that the state abbreviation for Nevada

9:28:02envy sounded like the word envy. [music]

9:28:04So that's where it all started from.

9:28:07What's great about the downtown Reno

9:28:10community is that you know people

9:28:12believe in Reno. You know we have

9:28:14something here. people really love this

9:28:16community as much as I do and and people

9:28:18really resonated with the idea of having

9:28:20like a local brand. Uh downtown Reno

9:28:22honestly has has been a challenge, but

9:28:24we're a small business and we've been

9:28:26down here since 2008 and honestly if we

9:28:28can do it, you know, there's a lot of

9:28:30opportunity out there and we kind of

9:28:31wanted to prove to people that retail

9:28:33works. In 2012, rebranded ourselves and

9:28:37we went from Reno Envy and renamed our

9:28:39our brand the Home Meets Nevada Company.

9:28:41kind of try to support the local artists

9:28:43in the community by bringing their

9:28:45products in and selling them on on their

9:28:47behalf. We have all sorts of great

9:28:49stuff. We have coffee from Glory Cloud.

9:28:51We have local honey. It's important for

9:28:53us to collaborate too with local

9:28:55celebrities. Christa Palmer is an

9:28:57Olympic athlete and [music] we have the

9:28:58opportunity to partner with her and

9:29:00create her own authentic Christa Palmer

9:29:03Battlebborne t-shirt.

9:29:05>> My name is Christa [music] Palmer,

9:29:07Nevada's Olympic diver. This is a really

9:29:09special company to me because my roots

9:29:12are in Nevada. I grew up down in Carson

9:29:14City. I truly feel this connection

9:29:17between Homes Nevada and my story. This

9:29:20has been a really cool partnership that

9:29:22I've been able to develop over the years

9:29:24with Scott projection of Reno downtown.

9:29:27And I really see it opening up more

9:29:29doors for people to continue to get

9:29:31outside, continue to take their dogs for

9:29:34a walk and enjoy the Reno River Walk to

9:29:37be able to have space to enjoy those

9:29:40lovely afternoons. I think that's where

9:29:42I kind of see the progression of Reno

9:29:44going and for more people to enjoy what

9:29:47Reno is. It's truly a treasure here.

9:29:49>> People [music] believe in Reno and we

9:29:50believe in Reno. There's so much

9:29:52opportunity and so many different types

9:29:54of people in downtown Reno. And the city

9:29:56of Reno has been great with this

9:29:57partnership with the visitor center, the

9:29:59RSCVA has been great. [music] The

9:30:01collaborations that we do with the

9:30:03community, with the university, with

9:30:06Crystal Palmer Olympic athlete, it

9:30:08really is about a community that kind of

9:30:10binds us together. If we [music] didn't

9:30:12have that support, we wouldn't be able

9:30:14to survive in downtown Reno. I've always

9:30:16felt like Reno's been kind of our little

9:30:18secret, and we love to share that

9:30:20secret. We'd love to see Reno grow and

9:30:21prosper. Great for shopping [music] for

9:30:23friends, great for gift giving. So, come

9:30:26on down, visit us, check it out. It's

9:30:28been a while. Come visit [music]

9:30:29downtown Reno and see what you're

9:30:31missing.

9:30:46[music]

9:30:52My name is Par tools and I am the CEO

9:30:54and founder of Tools Development.

9:30:58[music]

9:31:00I grew up in the Bay Area in Middle Park

9:31:02and I moved to Reno in 1994. Met a

9:31:05pretty girl and chased her down and uh

9:31:07got married and decided to put down

9:31:08roots here and uh ended up being a

9:31:10really vibrant place for us to not only

9:31:12do business but grow a family and it's

9:31:14been a a wonderful decision.

9:31:16But always had the desire to start my

9:31:18own business and in 2016 started Tuls

9:31:21development company with the goal to

9:31:23focus on all product types of real

9:31:25estate but with extra effort downtown.

9:31:27We bought a portfolio of office

9:31:29buildings with the uh goal to redevelop

9:31:31those buildings and really try to push

9:31:33downtown Reno into its next level. We

9:31:36also did that with Midtown. We bought a

9:31:37portfolio of retail buildings. Turn that

9:31:39into what is now a very vibrant area.

9:31:43[music] People always ask me the next

9:31:45Portland. is next Austin. My response

9:31:47has always been, we're Rita. We have

9:31:49this really interesting quilt. I love

9:31:51the fact we're not trying to turn it

9:31:53into somewhere else, but that we're

9:31:54allowing it to evolve in its own really

9:31:56unique way. Private investment in

9:31:58downtowns. It's hard, but it's also

9:32:01incredibly rewarding.

9:32:07Downtown Reno's really got a nice

9:32:09platform for additional mixed use

9:32:11development. We have a good foundation

9:32:13of retail, good foundation of office,

9:32:15good residential, arts and culture. We

9:32:17have a river that runs through it. It's

9:32:19important for us to move where the

9:32:21market is telling us to go, but also to

9:32:23be more than just financially worthy. I

9:32:26think it's important to take a

9:32:27longerterm view when you're redeveloping

9:32:29and trying to obviously not only making

9:32:32returns for your investors, but also

9:32:34making more social returns for the

9:32:36community itself. I think we have a

9:32:38collaborative culture here. We're part

9:32:40of the fabric of this community. These

9:32:42businesses are our friends. You know, we

9:32:44don't have big commutes. People want to

9:32:45be together. We'll never leave Raiden.

9:32:49[music]

9:32:50This office portfolio and the Midtown

9:32:52portfolio wanted it right before co I've

9:32:55seen the vibrancy of downtown. It hasn't

9:32:57been hot as bad as it could. And now

9:32:59we're prepared to continue to move it

9:33:01forward with with good development.

9:33:05It's easy to stay in suburbia, but

9:33:07certainly not as fun. and you haven't

9:33:09come to downtown Reno yet, please come

9:33:12visit us, I promise you, you will make

9:33:14it your Friday night date night. It is

9:33:16one of the most vibrant, [music] special

9:33:18cities on the west. I can't wait for you

9:33:20to experience it if you haven't done it

9:33:21yet.

9:33:26[music]

9:33:32[music]

9:33:40>> [music]

9:33:42>> The Pioneer Center is a nonprofit

9:33:45performing arts center located in the

9:33:46heart of downtown Reno. We are in an

9:33:48absolutely gorgeous one-of-a-kind

9:33:50historic building right on the banks of

9:33:52the Truckucky River. Our building was

9:33:54constructed in the 1960s, so we have

9:33:56been open and operating as a nonprofit

9:33:58performing arts center for over 56 years

9:34:01now. I'm Denise Su. I'm the CEO of the

9:34:03Pioneer Center for the Performing Arts.

9:34:05One of the amazing things about being a

9:34:07community performing arts center is that

9:34:08our historic stage is the very first

9:34:10performance opportunity for so many

9:34:12young children in the area. Aspiring

9:34:14young musicians and dancers will perform

9:34:16their first recitals here on our stage.

9:34:18There is an incredible magic when all of

9:34:21those children come into this

9:34:22professional theater for the first time.

9:34:24The feedback we get from those children

9:34:26and from their parents is that it's

9:34:27literally life-changing for them to have

9:34:29those first experiences on our stage.

9:34:31And we know that many of those people

9:34:33choose to stay in this community and

9:34:34build their lives.

9:34:35>> Madam clerk, I think we're going to

9:34:36reconvene those council meeting

9:34:40>> if you're ready to go.

9:34:41>> Absolutely.

9:34:42>> Awesome. Thank you so much. And I think

9:34:44before we went on the break, the plan

9:34:45from the city manager was to continue

9:34:48[clears throat] items C 2 and C3.

9:34:51>> Uh C2 and C4.

9:34:53>> C2 and C4.

9:34:56Okay. With that, I'll just look for a

9:34:57motion from anybody to continue those

9:34:59two items.

9:35:00>> Move to continue. Second.

9:35:02>> Okay, we have a motion and a second. All

9:35:03those in favor say I.

9:35:04>> I. Any opposed? Motion passes

9:35:07unanimously. Thank you. With that, we'll

9:35:09open up item C3, special activity

9:35:11permitting process discussion.

9:35:13>> Mr. Vice Mayor, this is I think a item

9:35:16from the mayor that we've talked about

9:35:18several times. I don't know. Do you

9:35:20>> hear for that? Can I just go check and

9:35:22see if she's

9:35:23>> Yeah, but I'm I'm think we're all in

9:35:25support of it. I don't know how much

9:35:26information we need.

9:35:27>> Um I think she wanted to be present for

9:35:29it. So, give me just one second.

9:35:37>> Sorry for the delay. We're just waiting

9:35:38for confirmation. [clears throat]

9:35:41>> No worries.

9:35:50>> I got you.

9:35:52>> Mr. Vice Mayor, could we just trail for

9:35:54a minute? I wasn't able to locate the

9:35:56Madame Mayor, so I might be

9:35:57>> Oh, good. Yeah, we'll move over to C5 if

9:35:59that's okay with our attorney's office

9:36:01and I'll send it over to you, Mr.

9:36:02Shipman.

9:36:06>> Uh, thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. We're

9:36:07just looking for a vote up or down on

9:36:09C5.

9:36:10>> Motion to approve.

9:36:11>> Second.

9:36:12>> We have a motion, a second. All those in

9:36:13favor say I.

9:36:14>> I.

9:36:14>> I. Any opposed? Motion passes

9:36:18unanimously.

9:36:20Thank you. With that, we will head over

9:36:22to

9:36:24D1, the Neon Line District Pedestrian

9:36:27Walkways, CUP, and come back to C3

9:36:33after that.

9:36:41>> Thank you for your flexibility.

9:36:49>> Hello. Hi, welcome.

9:36:51>> Thank you.

9:36:52>> Real quick, did we want to open the

9:36:53public hearing for this one or

9:36:54>> Yes, we'll open the public hearing. Was

9:36:55proper notice given and was any

9:36:58correspondence received?

9:36:59>> Proper notice was given and we did

9:37:01receive eight comments. Uh, seven in

9:37:03opposition and one neutral and

9:37:04concerned.

9:37:06>> Thank you.

9:37:10>> With that, um, good evening, council

9:37:12members.

9:37:14For the record, my name is Leah Picotti

9:37:16and I'm an associate planner with the

9:37:18city of Reno Development Services. This

9:37:21evening I am presenting the application

9:37:23for the Reno's Neon Line District

9:37:25pedestrian walkways.

9:37:28The subject site is located um to the

9:37:31north and to the west of J Resort, south

9:37:35of Fourth Street, generally on the

9:37:37corner of Rston and Fourth. The site is

9:37:40comprised of three parcels which total

9:37:42nine acres. Today's request is a

9:37:46conditional use permit for two elevated

9:37:48pedestrian walkways.

9:37:51Subject site is located in the mixeduse

9:37:54downtown entertainment district and the

9:37:56mixeduse downtown northwest quadrant

9:37:58also within the downtown gaming overlay.

9:38:02Key issues related to this request were

9:38:05uh compliance with the Reno municipal

9:38:07code skyway design guidelines,

9:38:09pedestrian and traffic safety, street

9:38:12level experience, and architectural

9:38:14compatibility.

9:38:16Now, we don't see conditional use

9:38:18permits come before council very often.

9:38:20They are unique in nature unless it's an

9:38:22appeal. In this particular case, uh we

9:38:26have a process outlined within Reno

9:38:28Municipal Code to go through this whole

9:38:31process for the request for a skyway

9:38:33where it goes through a design committee

9:38:35review, then it goes to the planning

9:38:37commission, and then it goes to the city

9:38:39council for final decision. So, this

9:38:43particular um request is within the J

9:38:47the J Resort within the Reno's Neon Line

9:38:49District. There's they did talk about

9:38:53the potential for a skyway or a

9:38:55pedestrian elevated pedestrian walkway

9:38:58in that 2021 development agreement.

9:39:02Today's current request is proposing two

9:39:04skyways across West 4th and Rston

9:39:07Street, which I'll show you here in a

9:39:08second. So, Reno Municipal Code Appendix

9:39:11B requires that it go through the Skyway

9:39:13Design Committee, which was completed on

9:39:15October 1st. planning commission which

9:39:17was done uh last week on October 14th

9:39:20and then tonight we are before the city

9:39:22council. The planning commission did

9:39:24recommend approval of this with a vote

9:39:26of 4 to3.

9:39:30So the proposed skyways extend out of

9:39:32the J Resort. If you look at the picture

9:39:34on the top of that page, you can kind of

9:39:37see those circles. That main big parcel

9:39:40outlined in orange there is the J

9:39:43Resort. So, the first skyway that they

9:39:46are requesting is one that connects the

9:39:49J Resort to uh 411 West 4th Street or

9:39:53just north right there. The reason that

9:39:55they want to put this in there is

9:39:56because they plan to build a future

9:39:58pool, spa, and fitness center and other

9:40:01amenities on that side of the road. So,

9:40:03this pedestrian walkway would allow

9:40:05people in their bathing suits to walk

9:40:07over there and walk back over to the Jay

9:40:09Resort without actually having to go

9:40:11outside and cross Fourth Street. The

9:40:13second uh skyway that they are

9:40:15requesting is across Rston Street right

9:40:18here and that would connect to a future

9:40:20parking structure. Same idea. It would

9:40:22go from the inside of the J Resort to

9:40:24the inside of the parking structure. Uh

9:40:28both are planned to be enclosed climate

9:40:30controlled glazed walkways with 24-hour

9:40:32public access. the photo on your screen

9:40:35on the bottom there, not photo

9:40:36rendering. Um, that shows what it's

9:40:40going to look like from Fourth and

9:40:42Rston. So, the skyway that's on the left

9:40:46of that picture kind of above the

9:40:48proposed pool is the one that would

9:40:50cross Fourth Street and the other one

9:40:51would go over to that parking garage you

9:40:53can see on the right hand side of the

9:40:54screen. Regarding design and dimensional

9:40:57standards, um, these comply with all of

9:41:01our standards. they meet and exceed all

9:41:03of our standards. Uh some examples of

9:41:05that are that we have a 30 foot

9:41:08guideline uh maximum. These are 15 feet

9:41:12wide crossing Fourth Street and 20t wide

9:41:15crossing um Rston. There's plenty of

9:41:19roadway clearance. Um the building mass

9:41:22is actually fairly limited for uh for

9:41:24what it is. It's approximately 20 ft. Um

9:41:28they are doing extensive glazing to

9:41:30reduce that tunnel effect. It's going to

9:41:32be insulated aluminum framing, accent

9:41:35bands, programmable LED architectural

9:41:38lighting, which is consistent with

9:41:39everything else in the Milan line

9:41:41district. So, regarding code standards,

9:41:43they are meeting and exceeding all of

9:41:45those code standards. Here's some uh

9:41:47architectural renderings. These kind of

9:41:49show what I showed before. the one up on

9:41:52the top right hand side is that Fourth

9:41:54and Rston looking down Fourth Street

9:41:57toward downtown. Uh right below that you

9:42:00can see that proposed parking garage on

9:42:02the left hand side and that walkway

9:42:04across Rston and then the image on the

9:42:07left that's by itself there is kind of

9:42:10showing that parking garage on the left

9:42:12hand side and the pool in that

9:42:14background.

9:42:16Um we did have a bit of public

9:42:19opposition to this. It wasn't too much,

9:42:20but there were a few people who were

9:42:22concerned and some of those concerns

9:42:25were also expressed during the Skyway

9:42:27review committee. So, I kind of want to

9:42:29go through those one at a time. I'm not

9:42:31going to spend too much time on them

9:42:32because I spend an excessive amount of

9:42:34time on them at planning commission. So,

9:42:36I'll just kind of go through them and

9:42:37then if anybody has any questions, we

9:42:39can go back to it. So the primary

9:42:41concerns that were raised were street

9:42:42street level activation that the skyways

9:42:45might may divert pedestrians from the

9:42:47sidewalk and discourage activity at

9:42:50streetf facing businesses. Uh public

9:42:52versus private benefit concerns that the

9:42:54connections will primarily serve Jesort

9:42:56patrons rather than the broader public.

9:42:59Timing of future development. Questions

9:43:01about approving skyways before the

9:43:03parking structure and the recreational

9:43:04amenities are constructed. Uh pedestrian

9:43:07safety and necessity. Do we really need

9:43:10these or do we have existing crosswalks

9:43:12and street improvements that can get

9:43:13people in their wet bathing suits back

9:43:15and forth across Fourth Street? Uh

9:43:17visual and historic character, potential

9:43:19lands streetscape impacts, including

9:43:21concerns about the proposed replica uh

9:43:25sign that would be on the side that's

9:43:26from the old Reno arch and then a master

9:43:30plan consistency. So, regarding that

9:43:33street level activation, um I just have

9:43:36uh fourth street is an urban corridor.

9:43:38So, I I threw this up there. This talks

9:43:41about street level interest and how we

9:43:43really want to design those streets. Uh

9:43:45high level of architectural detail,

9:43:47canopies, awning, street trees. And what

9:43:50I'm showing in these photos there is

9:43:52that we have um a lot of that has been

9:43:54implemented in this area. We have street

9:43:56we have a lot of uh street art. We have

9:43:58landscape parkways. We have lighting. We

9:44:01have landscaping. We have crosswalks. Um

9:44:05here's just another one looking at those

9:44:07down toward the Jay Resort there with

9:44:09the street art. This is a good example

9:44:11of those landscape parkways and the

9:44:13street trees that have been installed

9:44:16there. We have wayfinding signs. Um this

9:44:20is Glow Plaza. Of course, you can see

9:44:21some of those uh replicas of historic

9:44:25signage that have been put at the Glow

9:44:27Plaza. You can also see our pedestrian

9:44:29crossing area that we have here. And for

9:44:31anyone who hasn't seen it, the Jay

9:44:33Resort recently redid their entrance uh

9:44:36with some landscaping and some artwork

9:44:38there as well. Kind of opening that area

9:44:40up to the public and creating a more

9:44:41inviting environment. Um

9:44:45public versus private benefit. Uh

9:44:47basically we have several master plan

9:44:50policies that uh guide us and tell us to

9:44:54continue to support casinos. uh continue

9:44:57to support our tourism industry,

9:44:59continue to support the downtown

9:45:00entertainment district, broaden the

9:45:02range of tourism, reinvest in

9:45:04established casinos,

9:45:07um create Reno as a tourism and

9:45:09entertainment destination, improve

9:45:12existing parking, put parking where we

9:45:15want it to be in create that pedestrian

9:45:18realm with realm with public spaces and

9:45:20comfort and the enjoyment of pedestrians

9:45:23in mind. So there are several master

9:45:25plan policies that kind of talk about

9:45:26that public versus private benefit and

9:45:29we definitely want to support our

9:45:30existing business businesses and support

9:45:33our tourism industry.

9:45:35Uh the timing of future development

9:45:37there seems to be some concern that uh

9:45:40potentially these amenities the parking

9:45:42garage might not be constructed and then

9:45:45we just would have walkways to nowhere.

9:45:46We have a couple of conditions of

9:45:48approval. number one condition uh on

9:45:51every conditional use permit with the

9:45:53city is that they have to comply with

9:45:56what they have submitted. So they can't

9:45:58change that. If they change that and

9:46:00they have an entirely different plan,

9:46:02we'll be back here and you guys will be

9:46:04looking at it again. Uh we also have

9:46:06condition six on there which says that

9:46:08prior to issuance of a building permit

9:46:10for either of the pedestrian walkways

9:46:12that we have to have a building permit

9:46:14issued for each building or development

9:46:16to which the pedestrian walkways will

9:46:18connect. Um that all has to all of that

9:46:21development needs to occur at the same

9:46:22time. So we just put that on there to

9:46:25make sure that we don't end up with

9:46:27walkways to nowhere.

9:46:29Uh, regarding the historic signage, um,

9:46:32the primary concern was that uh was that

9:46:37somehow this is going to blur the line

9:46:39between what's actually historic and

9:46:41what is new. The neon line district has

9:46:45um implemented uh lots of our old neon

9:46:49signs, replicas of those signs. I think

9:46:51they have nine signs along the Globe

9:46:53Plaza. Eight of those are historic

9:46:56replicas. one was actually able to be

9:46:58restored and placed there. So from

9:47:00staff's perspective, uh putting another

9:47:03historic sign in that area is not

9:47:07problematic for us. We support that.

9:47:10Conditional use permit recommended

9:47:12findings are on the board. Basically,

9:47:13it's got to uh comply with Reno

9:47:16municipal code, which it does. It

9:47:18supports downtown connectivity and it

9:47:20complies with all of the Skyway design

9:47:22guidelines. Is it compatible and

9:47:24consistent with surrounding development?

9:47:26Well, we have an existing resort there

9:47:28that wants to expand. We have the neon

9:47:30line district. This architecture would

9:47:32be compleimentary to that and serve

9:47:34those existing uses. Do we have public

9:47:37services and utilities? Yes, we have uh

9:47:39existing infrastructure, engineering and

9:47:41fire have both reviewed this. Are the

9:47:43characteristics compatible with the

9:47:45types of surrounding development? Yes.

9:47:47Uh putting add additional pedestrian

9:47:50connections, transparency, architectural

9:47:52compatibility.

9:47:54um staff finds that that finding has

9:47:56been made and that it's not going to be

9:47:58materially detrimental to the public

9:47:59health and safety and welfare. Having

9:48:02grade separated crossings with the

9:48:04required clearance meets all the safety

9:48:06standards and improves the safety for

9:48:08pedestrians crossing fourth street and

9:48:10rston in the area. We also have uh

9:48:14skyway recommended findings. Is it

9:48:16consistent with the skyway design

9:48:17guidelines? Yes, it is. Does it impair

9:48:20scenic resources? No, there's no

9:48:22significant obstruction of recognized

9:48:23scenic resources. Is it consistent with

9:48:26orderly development? Yes, it supports

9:48:28the planned resort expansion and the

9:48:30connectivity to those expanded areas.

9:48:33And do we have the required property

9:48:34owner consent? Yes. Uh it's all owned by

9:48:38the same person and they have consented.

9:48:42Planning commission. Okay. So, planning

9:48:44commission was held last week. Um at

9:48:46planning commission, the applicant asked

9:48:49to extend the time frame that's normal

9:48:51for a conditional use permit from 18

9:48:53months to 36 months. Staff supported

9:48:56that request because there's quite a bit

9:48:57that has to go into developing two

9:49:00separate areas that are going to go with

9:49:02these. So staff did support that

9:49:04modification to condition number two

9:49:06from 18 to 36 months. Therefore, the

9:49:09motion that is on your board is the

9:49:12recommendation from the planning

9:49:13commission with that modification to

9:49:15condition number two. That concludes my

9:49:18presentation. I'm available for

9:49:20questions. And the applicant's

9:49:21representative is here and has a

9:49:22presentation as well.

9:49:25>> All right. Thank you so much, Leah. Good

9:49:27to see you.

9:49:28>> Good to see you.

9:49:30>> You're always so positive and sometimes

9:49:32I think your job is just way too hard.

9:49:35>> Thank you, Madam Mayor.

9:49:36[laughter]

9:49:37I'm not talking to you. No, just

9:49:40kidding. All right. Uh, Mr. Gordon, take

9:49:42it away.

9:49:42>> Hi, Mayor. Nice to see you. Good

9:49:44evening, uh, city council. Nice to see

9:49:45all of you. Appreciate the opportunity

9:49:47tonight. Um, Leah did a great job on her

9:49:49presentation. I will try not to be

9:49:51redundant, but hit a couple uh key

9:49:53points once uh the clerk pulls it up.

9:49:57>> It doesn't look like we have a present

9:49:58an applicant presentation for this one

9:50:00in the system, but I'll take a look at

9:50:02my email.

9:50:05Yeah, we we've got it on ours.

9:50:07>> I'm just checking to see if it just

9:50:09>> Yeah, if there was a disconnect.

9:50:13>> Oh, it's being downloaded right now.

9:50:14>> Yeah, I completely forgot.

9:50:18>> Thank you very much. Have a good

9:50:19evening.

9:50:22>> Mayor, if I could ask a question.

9:50:27>> Madam Mayor.

9:50:29>> Okay. Um, is that you, Naomi?

9:50:32>> Yeah. Can you hear me?

9:50:34>> Yeah. Got it.

9:50:37>> Yes, we can hear you.

9:50:38>> Can you hear me?

9:50:38>> We can hear you.

9:50:39>> I just had a question from Leah while

9:50:41you're getting that loaded.

9:50:44>> Okay.

9:50:49>> Is that a Y?

9:50:51>> Yeah.

9:50:53>> Okay.

9:50:54For Leah, I I was curious. you made a

9:50:58comment about the historic resources and

9:51:02one of the things you said was there is

9:51:04a restored sign and then this is a

9:51:07replica sign. So I really just had two

9:51:10questions. One is um because there is

9:51:15not a building and in fact it was said

9:51:17that there's to be a pool on the other

9:51:19side of this walkway. So, what I didn't

9:51:22understand is you said if they don't do

9:51:24what's in the application, they have to

9:51:26come back. Is that a poll or something

9:51:30else?

9:51:33>> Um, thank you for the question, council

9:51:35member. Um, Leah Picotti for the record.

9:51:38Uh, essentially it's going to be

9:51:40amenities. Uh, there was some things

9:51:43listed in the application that could be

9:51:45a pool, it could be a fitness center, it

9:51:46could be a spa, it could be any of the

9:51:48above. So there will be a development on

9:51:51that side of the street that this will

9:51:52connect to and uh per condition one and

9:51:55per condition six uh the skyways cannot

9:51:59be built before whatever that

9:52:01development is.

9:52:03>> Okay. So what I would have thought in

9:52:05order was is to bring the project

9:52:07whatever it is and the skyway is like an

9:52:10amenity to the main thing which is like

9:52:12the building or the pool or you said a

9:52:15fitness center. So, I I just don't know

9:52:18how to evaluate it without the missing

9:52:21piece, I guess.

9:52:22>> Um, Council Member Door, I'm I'm going

9:52:25to defer to the applicant and let him

9:52:27give his presentation because I think

9:52:28some of that what you're asking is going

9:52:30to be answered in his presentation.

9:52:32>> Okay. All right. Thank you.

9:52:40>> All right, Madam Mayor, whenever you're

9:52:42ready. I think uh presentation's ready.

9:52:45>> Great. Thank you. Uh good evening again.

9:52:47For the record, Garrett Gordon on behalf

9:52:48of J Resort. Uh tonight, as Leah

9:52:51mentioned, uh two requests for two

9:52:53pedestrian walkways. Um this is a great

9:52:55enhancement to currently a $500 million

9:52:59investment into this area. Let me say

9:53:01that to date, we're at $500 million

9:53:03invested in into Reno's Leon line

9:53:06district, and this is the next step as

9:53:08we continue to build out the area. Uh as

9:53:11Leah pointed out, two pedestrian

9:53:13walkways. Uh, and I stress pedestrian

9:53:14walkways because there's some other

9:53:16skyways around town, right? Some may

9:53:18have a restaurant, uh, or maybe

9:53:20hypothetically a sushi restaurant.

9:53:22Others may have cover a whole block uh,

9:53:25downtown. Um, this is not a restaurant.

9:53:28This is not putting people and keeping

9:53:30them on the walkway. It is just a

9:53:32pedestrian walkway to move people in a

9:53:34safe, effective manner across Fourth

9:53:36Street and across Rston.

9:53:39You can see here as Leah mentioned um

9:53:42and showed is a rendering of what shows

9:53:45these two pedestrian walkways.

9:53:47Councilwoman Der to address your

9:53:49question. So if approved tonight um it

9:53:53is not conditioned on what exactly is

9:53:55built on the other side of the walkway.

9:53:58Uh as we show tonight uh we propose uh

9:54:01in our thinking a parking garage as well

9:54:04as some spa and pool amenities uh north

9:54:06of Four Street. uh those if there's a

9:54:10change in that use and it's requires a

9:54:12use permit or some discretionary

9:54:14approval, I'll be back before you. If

9:54:16it's permitted by right, it goes right

9:54:18to building permit just like any other

9:54:19development. But what does hold our feet

9:54:22to the fire are these skyway design

9:54:25review guidelines. And so if and when we

9:54:28build the connecting portions of the

9:54:31walkway on the north side of Fort or on

9:54:33the west side of Rston, those still have

9:54:36to comply. They have to be compatible

9:54:38with the skyway. They have to be

9:54:39compatible with the design. They have to

9:54:41be compatible with the architecture. And

9:54:43as I put on the record at the design

9:54:44review committee as well as at the

9:54:47planning commission that city staff also

9:54:49put on the record that if for whatever

9:54:51reason what it's connecting to is not

9:54:54compatible with the design, we would

9:54:55have to come back through this process

9:54:57uh design review committee, planning

9:54:59commission, and council to make sure it

9:55:01in fact is. Another question that's come

9:55:04up is um as council member Dur mentioned

9:55:07well why do this now? So I've been

9:55:10before this body many times and you

9:55:12always get your entitlements before you

9:55:15move forward right you're not going to

9:55:17invest in an architect to design a

9:55:19skyway unless it's in fact approved by

9:55:21this body. You're not going to design a

9:55:23parking garage with and without a

9:55:25skyway. Right? Obviously, if a skyway is

9:55:28connecting into the third floor of a

9:55:29parking garage, the loads, the

9:55:31engineering, the design is one thing or

9:55:34if for whatever reason this is denied

9:55:36tonight, that would have to be

9:55:37completely redesigned a different way if

9:55:39built at all. So, first is the

9:55:41entitlements. If these are approved,

9:55:43then we go to the architectural

9:55:44renderings, then we go to construction

9:55:45drawings, and not only for the two

9:55:47skyways, but what happens on either side

9:55:50uh as well. So, hopefully answers your

9:55:52question, Council Member Der, but happy

9:55:53to address it um later if necessary. As

9:55:56Leah mentioned, um here's an overhead

9:55:58showing the the start and end of the

9:56:00locations.

9:56:01What's around this and why are we doing

9:56:03this there? Thank goodness. When I came

9:56:06and proposed to all of you a development

9:56:08agreement, I promised you outdoor

9:56:10entertainment. I promised you

9:56:12activation. I promised you a shift in

9:56:17not only tourists, but locals wanting to

9:56:20come down and enjoy Reno's neon line

9:56:23district. And at the time, I didn't even

9:56:25know we were going to have soccer

9:56:26fields, right? That was a great pivot in

9:56:29response to what we heard from the

9:56:31community, what we've heard from the

9:56:33study that said we were missing four

9:56:35flat uh 60 flat fields. We're starting

9:56:37with four here. And also a history of

9:56:40our uh our city. When the volleyball

9:56:43tournament comes to the convention

9:56:44center, every hotel room is sold out.

9:56:48What a great idea to bring that energy

9:56:50and that youth sports and those families

9:56:53over the hill this way. I'm a soccer

9:56:55dad. I've been going over the hill a lot

9:56:57of time, spending a lot of money with

9:56:58hotels and restaurants over in

9:57:00California. It's pretty cool to see all

9:57:03these families from California now

9:57:05coming here. You can see on the right

9:57:07hand side the festival grounds. We can

9:57:09get up to 15,000 people there. We've had

9:57:11thousands and thousands over the last

9:57:13couple years. It's continuing to grow.

9:57:15We need to move those people efficiently

9:57:17over Rston from the J Resort to a uh

9:57:20parking garage or over Fourth Street

9:57:22into some more amenities. These soccer

9:57:25fields are bringing families with

9:57:26strollers with kids of all ages. A lot

9:57:29of activity going on here. Having these

9:57:31pedestrian walkways to help in inclement

9:57:34weather, to help with families, to help

9:57:37late at night after a festival ground

9:57:39concert bleeds out is just moving people

9:57:42effectively and efficiently over Rston

9:57:44and over four street, which is in direct

9:57:47response to all the energy and

9:57:49excitement and activation that Jay has

9:57:51created over the last few years.

9:57:54As as Leah mentioned, we've went through

9:57:56each step of of the process that's

9:57:59required by uh by code. Let me just say

9:58:02that the Skyway design review committee

9:58:03was great. You had two architects on

9:58:06there, you had a RAB member on there,

9:58:09you had a planning commissioner on

9:58:11there, and you had RTC former director,

9:58:15Bill Thomas. And it was important that

9:58:17Bill Thomas was on there. I'm going to

9:58:18skip around just for a sec

9:58:21because Bill said, uh, gosh, RTC is

9:58:24investing a lot of money into four

9:58:27street multimodal

9:58:29um, sidewalks. You can see Keystone and

9:58:33West Four Street is torn up. That's all

9:58:34RTC. Of course, you guys know who sits

9:58:36on RTC. But the question came up from a

9:58:39architect an architect of well is this

9:58:43walkway and the tribute art attached to

9:58:46it does that in fact compatible with RTC

9:58:49is doing and Mr. Thomas said not only is

9:58:52it compatible but it enhances it. We put

9:58:55these brand new lights in along along

9:58:57Fourth Street that now have a new design

9:59:00thanks to the development agreement and

9:59:02these lights they can change colors for

9:59:03Halloween maybe they're orange for St.

9:59:05Patrick's Day maybe they're green. Mr.

9:59:07Thomas said, "How great would it be to

9:59:09connect your skyway and your tribute art

9:59:11with the biggest little city piece of

9:59:13artwork up there to be able to

9:59:14coordinate with those lights so it all

9:59:16can turn green. It all can turn orange.

9:59:18It all can coexist together." And we

9:59:20said, "Amazing, great comment, Mr.

9:59:22Thomas. We have in fact do that." So the

9:59:24question of is this in conflict or

9:59:26inconsistent with what RTC did?

9:59:28Absolutely not. It's enhancing it and

9:59:30implementing it according to the

9:59:32director um himself.

9:59:35Let me touch on this piece. So, left

9:59:38hand side, skyway map in your

9:59:41development code. It shows where skyways

9:59:43are prohibited. City council decades ago

9:59:45made a decision where skyway should and

9:59:47should not go. This area, they're

9:59:50allowed. On the right hand side are your

9:59:52design review guidelines, which uh staff

9:59:55has concluded we comply with. But I this

9:59:58language again is not my language. It

10:00:00comes right from your design review

10:00:01guidelines. Skyways provide an

10:00:04opportunity to increase the econom

10:00:07economic viability of a project. The

10:00:10short block lengths that exist in

10:00:12downtown Reno make it difficult to

10:00:15provide large-scale projects to

10:00:17strengthen Reno's economy. In addition,

10:00:20properly designed skyways may provide

10:00:22for improved traffic flow, increase

10:00:25pedestrian safety, and increase

10:00:26pedestrian comfort. I could not have

10:00:29said it better. That is exactly from

10:00:31your guidelines. This is obviously a

10:00:33large-scale project. You approved a

10:00:35development agreement that includes a

10:00:3710b block radius. They are very small

10:00:40blocks and in order to continue to build

10:00:42this large-scale project out, we need

10:00:44some connectivity to do what? Increase

10:00:46pedestrian safety, increase pedestrian

10:00:48comfort, and again have improved traffic

10:00:50flow. So, I thought that was very

10:00:52evident when I read that of what we're

10:00:54proposing is absolutely the purpose and

10:00:56intent of a pedestrian walkway or

10:00:59skyway. Uh, I won't believe the point

10:01:02about your master plan policies. Leah

10:01:04did a great job. This absolutely checks

10:01:06the box for your master plan policy of

10:01:08safety, espec specifically pedestrian

10:01:10safety. It absolutely checks the box of

10:01:12growth of downtown development. This

10:01:14continues to provide construction jobs,

10:01:16hospitality jobs, downtown foot traffic,

10:01:19and diversity of of downtown activation,

10:01:22tourism, entertainment. I mean, I think

10:01:24we've done a pretty good job uh of the

10:01:27Glow Plaza, the festival grounds, the

10:01:30soccer fields, and now connecting this

10:01:32all in compliance with your downtown

10:01:34action plan, which says continue to

10:01:36invest in tourism, entertainment, arts,

10:01:40and your existing gaming properties,

10:01:42which this is. And of course, and

10:01:44certainly not least, inclusion and

10:01:45accessibility. This does provide that

10:01:48ADA compliant weatherprotected

10:01:50connectivity for all users especially

10:01:52with anyone who has mobility challenges

10:01:54moving them across and over the street

10:01:56in a safe and coherent manner. So

10:01:58safety, growth, placemaking, inclusion

10:02:01uh we believe we check all all those

10:02:03boxes. Um I am running out of time but

10:02:07let me just close with this. We meet

10:02:09every single skyway um finding as Leah

10:02:13mentioned, but let me focus on number

10:02:14four because there was a question at

10:02:15planning commission that said, "Well,

10:02:17are you really taking pedestrians off

10:02:19the street and how does that impact

10:02:21activation and pedestrian movement? How

10:02:24is that analyzed?" One of the planning

10:02:26commissioners correctly said and pointed

10:02:28out this policy, you need 75% of the

10:02:32property owners to consent to a skyway.

10:02:34So, if I was proposing this over in

10:02:37Midtown, you're going to have a lot of

10:02:38property owners maybe having different

10:02:40opinions, but here we own the frontage.

10:02:43We own both sides of the street, and we

10:02:46believe that this is not going to

10:02:47negatively impact pedestrian activity

10:02:49for all of our properties. Um, given uh

10:02:52it's our proposal in order to do so. So,

10:02:55we do check that box and meet that

10:02:56finding. And I'm out of time. Um, Madame

10:02:59Mayor, and I'm happy to answer any

10:03:00questions. Thank you.

10:03:03Thank you so much.

10:03:06Okay, any questions? Um, nope. I'm going

10:03:09to look

10:03:10>> Mayor.

10:03:10>> Yes. Hold on one second. I'm looking for

10:03:12Councilwoman Eert's hand.

10:03:15>> I don't see it up, so I'm going to go to

10:03:17you first.

10:03:18>> Oh, wait. Hold on a second.

10:03:20>> Sorry. Sorry. Do you have any public

10:03:21comment?

10:03:23>> Yes, we do have public comment on this.

10:03:24>> So, I just want to let everyone know we

10:03:26need to take that before we vote.

10:03:28>> Yes.

10:03:28>> Okay.

10:03:30All right. Uh, Councilwoman Der, go

10:03:34ahead.

10:03:34>> Yeah, I just assume um hear the public

10:03:37comment, but my question was really in

10:03:40the planning commission because I tried

10:03:42to watch that whole thing. It looked

10:03:45like I want to ask Leah. It looked like

10:03:47it was a three four vote. So, is that

10:03:50correct? Did I hear that right?

10:03:55>> Leah Picotti, for the record, it was

10:03:57four in favor and three opposed.

10:04:01Yeah. Can you just explain what what

10:04:04they were concerned about so we can

10:04:05better understand their perspective?

10:04:09>> Yes. Um their primary concern was that

10:04:14uh there is language in our Skyway

10:04:19design guidelines that some of the Reno

10:04:23planning commissioners interpreted one

10:04:25way and some interpreted another way.

10:04:28And the wording says that the project

10:04:30has to be essential.

10:04:33>> And

10:04:33>> what project? The swimming pool or spa

10:04:36or parking garage.

10:04:37>> I'm sorry. That the skyway has to be

10:04:39essential to the project.

10:04:42>> Okay. Well, this was where I was kind of

10:04:44getting um stumped because we have been

10:04:47doing everything we could to enhance um

10:04:51activation at the street level. and you

10:04:53pointed out earlier all of the things

10:04:56that um you know the Jacob's Resort has

10:05:00done in terms of putting in statuary and

10:05:02trees and so on, but the idea is to get

10:05:04people on the ground, right? Walking

10:05:06around participating in their city and

10:05:08whatever, even if that's looking at

10:05:10other residents saying hello. Um and

10:05:12where I was struggling was you can

10:05:15easily walk across the street. I mean

10:05:17RTC has improved it. We have a divider

10:05:20if I recall, unless I might have that

10:05:23wrong on the street. But my my

10:05:26understanding is I mean that's why we

10:05:27have stop lights so pedestrians can

10:05:29cross the street. And I guess I was just

10:05:31wondering I mean if skyways are

10:05:33essential is the argument then that we

10:05:35should have skyways all up and down this

10:05:37section of fourth street uh because

10:05:40they're better, they're safer. I I guess

10:05:42there's competing policies. I get that

10:05:44getting off the street is safer, but I

10:05:47also get that then it looks dead and

10:05:49that's what we've been struggling with

10:05:50on Virginia and Sierra and and I

10:05:53understand this is a horse of a

10:05:54different color so to speak. It's not a

10:05:56very big fat skyway. But my other

10:05:59challenge just so I had two challenges.

10:06:01One was the street activation. The

10:06:04second was like where does this go? Like

10:06:06why are we approving a skyway? And I

10:06:08just would have thought we would have

10:06:09brought them together. I understand Mr.

10:06:11Gordon's point about getting your

10:06:13permits, but the thing is that we

10:06:16require people when they're getting

10:06:17different kind of permits to apply for

10:06:20the whatever they're going to build and

10:06:22then any ancillary structures to come

10:06:24along with it. And then I guess my third

10:06:27question or or issue has to do with this

10:06:30signage. Um, without a building, it

10:06:33looks to me like the skyway is really

10:06:35like an arch, right? because it has a

10:06:37replica of this arch and it covers up

10:06:40the glass which was required if I recall

10:06:43that it was required to be light and

10:06:45glass filled but yet we're covering over

10:06:48with this signage. So um the other thing

10:06:51is you know I've served on historic

10:06:53resources for a number of years and I've

10:06:54learned the difference between

10:06:56restoration of a historical let's say

10:06:59building or artifact or feature and

10:07:02replication. And while some may disagree

10:07:05with me have made a study of this um in

10:07:08terms of being part of this commission

10:07:10listening to all their discussions

10:07:12learning about it. They've gone to

10:07:14several seminars that we've gone to and

10:07:16it it's really important even at the

10:07:18national level that we not be

10:07:20replicating. And so what I was worried

10:07:22about is we have two arches. We're going

10:07:23to celebrate one with a 100th birthday

10:07:26on Friday sounds like and then we have

10:07:29the main arch. And what I I didn't want

10:07:31to give off the wrong opinion that this

10:07:32is somehow Reno's official arch, you

10:07:35know. Now am I fine with people taking

10:07:38pictures with whatever? Sure. But is

10:07:41this just a it it almost seemed like to

10:07:44call it out in the room that it was a

10:07:46way of having more signage and more

10:07:49arches, I guess. So that was my thoughts

10:07:52based on what I listened to the planning

10:07:54commission and interpreted from the

10:07:57things I was reading. So thanks for

10:07:58allowing me to express my thoughts.

10:08:03[laughter]

10:08:04>> Sorry, was that a question?

10:08:06>> Right. It started out as a question, but

10:08:09you answered it, which was what the

10:08:11planning commission what their take on

10:08:13it and why did three of the seven feel a

10:08:16different way and you answered that and

10:08:17then I was adding my thoughts building

10:08:19on that. So, thank you.

10:08:20>> Okay. Wait, wait. How long was that,

10:08:23Lauren?

10:08:24>> It was just over three minutes.

10:08:26>> Over three minutes. Okay. All right.

10:08:27Well, then she's had one round. So, I'm

10:08:29gonna go um actually I'd like to go to

10:08:32you and go to public comment.

10:08:33>> Yes, absolutely. And then just a quick

10:08:35reminder for those on Zoom, if you could

10:08:37please lower your hand if you're not

10:08:39here to speak on item D1. Um, and then

10:08:42if you are wanting to speak on item D1,

10:08:45now is your chance to raise your hand.

10:08:46Uh, Josh Hey Bear followed by Justin

10:08:49Hegi followed by Damen Cole via Zoom.

10:08:52>> Josh Abe Bear. Are you French?

10:08:55>> Isn't that a French? I mean, I'm

10:08:56American. I'm like, all kinds of French

10:08:58name.

10:08:59>> Is it?

10:09:00>> It's a bear.

10:09:00>> A bear.

10:09:01>> Abear. Like a bear. That's French,

10:09:02right?

10:09:02>> Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Okay, got it. I

10:09:05like it.

10:09:06>> Okay, so again, Josh Abear for the

10:09:07record.

10:09:08>> So, I'm taking French. That's why I

10:09:09noticed.

10:09:10>> Okay. Well, that that makes one of us.

10:09:12>> Okay, go ahead.

10:09:13>> Um, so I've been following this

10:09:15completely through the planning process.

10:09:16Uh, I want to stress first that the

10:09:18development agreement for the Skyway uh

10:09:20I mean the development agreement with

10:09:22Jacobs, the skyway was over the rail

10:09:24corridor. It's completely irrelevant to

10:09:25the skyways we're discussing right now.

10:09:27Uh [snorts] and one of the findings of

10:09:29the the planning commission what they

10:09:31were arguing over was that these skyways

10:09:33are not essential to this project to the

10:09:36point that I would like to make. There

10:09:37is no project here. There is no pool.

10:09:40There is no parking garage. There are

10:09:42some pretty pictures. There's the

10:09:44prospect of things. But what is being

10:09:46asked for right now is for approval for

10:09:49skyways to nowhere to promises to

10:09:52phantoms. We these things do not exist.

10:09:55So the condition of being essential to a

10:09:58project is not met for the Skyway design

10:10:02guidelines. And then the other question

10:10:04is connectivity to what? Uh Leah talked

10:10:07about we have I mean not Leah but uh

10:10:09Garrett talked about the the playing

10:10:11fields and the festival grounds. None of

10:10:14those people are going to use the

10:10:15skyway. They don't use the skyway right

10:10:18now. They're using street parking. I've

10:10:20talked to all the businesses in these

10:10:21areas like and that the the the building

10:10:23down there, the apartment building down

10:10:25by one of the soccer fields, they plan

10:10:26to have people towed because of the of

10:10:28the fields. So, those have nothing to do

10:10:31with the skyways whatsoever. Unless

10:10:33Jacobs is hoping that people are going

10:10:34to use the skyways to get to other

10:10:36Jacob's properties. Another issue is

10:10:38that this has to do with activation on

10:10:40the street, having people on street

10:10:41level. Skyways remove people from the

10:10:44street and keep them inside the resort

10:10:46ecosystem. It's what they're designed to

10:10:48do. It's what they see we see them do

10:10:50downtown. It's what they will do for

10:10:52Jacobs. That's what Jacobs wants. Wants

10:10:54to keep people inside off the street

10:10:56which is going to prevent nearby

10:10:57development. So this is not conducive to

10:11:00orderly development of this area. And

10:11:02also we're talking about an area that is

10:11:04an urban corridor. It's the

10:11:06entertainment district. It's the

10:11:08northwest quadrant. This is supposed to

10:11:10be dense, multi-use, lively urban

10:11:14development, not just with casinos, but

10:11:16with businesses and restaurants and

10:11:18plazas and people outside. We want

10:11:20people to come downtown, not just for

10:11:23the occasional festival. And I would

10:11:25invite you to go look on the festival

10:11:28ground schedule. They have one event at

10:11:30the end of this month and they have the

10:11:31Temptations coming next June. That's

10:11:34hardly a lot of activation. So

10:11:38these uh and there there are some also

10:11:40technical elements of the skyway design

10:11:42lines that are not being met. We don't

10:11:44they're supposed to be they're supposed

10:11:46to be look nice from the street. If we

10:11:48have an entrance on street level like

10:11:49the one on four street I looked at all

10:11:51these pictures I can't see where any

10:11:53entrance is anywhere. If you look at the

10:11:55plan view there's no entrance indicated

10:11:57on there anywhere. So they have there

10:11:59are technical aspects of these design

10:12:01guidelines that have not been met. They

10:12:03are in my written comments. I've given

10:12:05extensive written comments throughout

10:12:06this process shown all of the ways that

10:12:08these skyways actually violate both the

10:12:11letter and the spirit of the master plan

10:12:13regardless of the hand waving towards

10:12:15the master plan that Jeff Jacobs has

10:12:17done. So, thank you for your time.

10:12:18>> Hey, thanks so much

10:12:21Justin Haggihi followed by Damen Cole

10:12:23via Zoom followed by Matthew Quesa via

10:12:25Zoom.

10:12:30>> Good evening madame mayor and council

10:12:32members. My name is Justin Higi. I'm

10:12:34here to give a comment along the similar

10:12:36lines to the previous commenter that

10:12:40this, you know, I care a lot about

10:12:42downtown and I care a lot about its

10:12:44activation and revitalization. And I'm

10:12:46not a planner or anything like that, but

10:12:48what I will say is skywalks like this

10:12:52generally don't aren't conducive to

10:12:55street activity as people have already

10:12:57talked about and discussed. And you

10:13:01know, Fort Street's just been recently

10:13:03improved. And skywalks are particularly

10:13:06inconvenient to people. You know, for

10:13:07example, if you're in a wheelchair, you

10:13:08need to use a mobility device. Depending

10:13:10on how tall the skyway is going to be,

10:13:13it could be more inconvenient than

10:13:14simply crossing the street at the next

10:13:16safe crossing. And I also agree that as

10:13:21we've heard from the applicant that

10:13:23we're not certain what is even going to

10:13:25be built. So, we don't know what the

10:13:27other end looks like. One of them looks

10:13:28like it goes into a parking garage and

10:13:31but we don't know if that's going to

10:13:32exist and we don't know when that will

10:13:34exist and a parking garage is not really

10:13:38a suitable use I think in this part of

10:13:40downtown. It's mixeduse downtown which

10:13:42means there's no off- streetet parking

10:13:43minimum. So building a parking garage is

10:13:45not exactly what we would want to see

10:13:47anyway in this part of downtown in terms

10:13:50of [snorts]

10:13:50revitalizing it and getting people on

10:13:52foot. And I've walked down this

10:13:55corridor. I've used RTC Route 11 along

10:13:57Fourth Street and it's not very active

10:14:00and I think that this would

10:14:02unfortunately make it worse because now

10:14:05we're asking people who are using these

10:14:08facilities with the resort to stay out

10:14:11of the street to stay contained in a

10:14:14sort of controlled ecosystem, a bubble

10:14:17that lets the, you know, the owner of

10:14:20the properties decide how their

10:14:22experience should be as opposed to the

10:14:25city and so the city's policies and

10:14:27everything that we do becomes irrelevant

10:14:29because now people aren't experiencing

10:14:32our city and so that's all I wanted to

10:14:34say. Thank you for your time and have a

10:14:36good evening.

10:14:37>> All right. Thank you so much.

10:14:40>> Damen Cole via Zoom followed by Matthew

10:14:42Quesa via Zoom followed by Maya Johnson

10:14:45via Zoom.

10:14:47>> Hello. Can everyone hear me?

10:14:49>> Yes, we can.

10:14:50>> Excellent. Is there any possible way

10:14:52that I can share my screen? If not, I

10:14:55understand, but it would help.

10:14:56>> I would think you can.

10:14:58>> No, we don't have that ability,

10:14:59unfortunately.

10:14:59>> Oh, shoot.

10:15:01>> They turned off that feature from Zoom.

10:15:03Okay, so

10:15:04>> I think that happened when in co,

10:15:07>> did it?

10:15:07>> Got it.

10:15:08>> Well, we had bad pictures.

10:15:10>> Yeah.

10:15:11>> Okay, go ahead.

10:15:12>> Okay, so thank you very much, Damian

10:15:15Cole, for the record. So, in order to we

10:15:17have to go back into your mind's eye to

10:15:20the plans that were presented in 2019,

10:15:24and they showed

10:15:26multi-story use with ample street level

10:15:31activation. We're talking about a hotel,

10:15:34a 10-story hotel on top of a five-story

10:15:37parking lot with cars parked on the

10:15:41surface, more cars parked in that

10:15:43fivetory thing. The next slide that I'm

10:15:46going to shows at least a hundred maybe

10:15:5075 to 100 feet setback with

10:15:54signs probably recreations of neon signs

10:15:58we don't know the gold room dining

10:16:00dancing gambling etc etc with

10:16:02silhouettes of people standing on the

10:16:04street. Then the next one shows what is

10:16:07now the most similar looking

10:16:10design, which is a building that has

10:16:13kind of like a a a skylight, kind of

10:16:16like the Shields building. You know how

10:16:17you could look up into the to the top of

10:16:19Shields and see the sky, right? And you

10:16:22have a multi-story what looks like a

10:16:23multi-story parking lot with additional

10:16:26it looks like condominiums or or

10:16:28apartments or something on top of that.

10:16:31But then at the the the street level,

10:16:33you have

10:16:35dining. You have entrances on

10:16:38practically every single angle of the

10:16:40street. You have a crosswalk here. You

10:16:43have probably like 200 people showing in

10:16:46this picture uh with a looks like a

10:16:49replica of the the space whale with a

10:16:52fountain. I don't know how that would

10:16:53deal with electricity, but okay. If you

10:16:55want to spray electricity with fountain,

10:16:57I guess, sure. the point that I'm trying

10:16:59to make and they show crosswalks, zebra

10:17:01crossings, and they show what looks like

10:17:03to be Fourth Street. Nowhere in that

10:17:06design is a skyway. And this was the

10:17:10these were the renderings that Jacobs

10:17:13showed in 2019 prior to the agreement of

10:17:19the the development agreement. So what

10:17:22Jacobs is now proposing completely

10:17:25contradicts the designs and the proposal

10:17:28of all of this street level activation

10:17:30of people standing there enjoying

10:17:33themselves

10:17:34and it's completely changed to now where

10:17:36you have completely walled off. You have

10:17:39to be inside the Jacob's complex in

10:17:41order to access all of these amenities.

10:17:43So it's 180 degrees from what was

10:17:46originally proposed. And so that's

10:17:48that's and there are

10:17:51you know, rearranging the decks on the

10:17:52on the deck chairs of the Titanic, but

10:17:55as far as like the design proposal and

10:17:57my my concerns for bikeways and all

10:17:59that. But that was the the stark

10:18:00contrast that I noticed is that

10:18:02everything has completely changed from

10:18:04the setbacks to the street level

10:18:06activation to the street level

10:18:08crossings.

10:18:09Everything has changed from the original

10:18:11renderings by which the city council

10:18:14approved the development agreement

10:18:18>> to Thank you, Damian.

10:18:19>> Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you.

10:18:22>> Matthew Quesa via Zoom, followed by Maya

10:18:24Johnson via Zoom, followed by Adrien

10:18:26Lowry via Zoom.

10:18:29>> Hello again, Mayor, Council Lumblers,

10:18:31uh, Council Member Ree. Again, I'm in

10:18:33your W five. My name is Matthew Quesa.

10:18:35I'm still here with you. I've been

10:18:36hanging in here with you all day. Uh, if

10:18:39you're going to continue ignoring the

10:18:40public's wishes, I'm going to have to be

10:18:41here a lot more. Um, I have three

10:18:44concerns on agenda item D1 that lead me

10:18:46to oppose it. Uh, one, Jacobs has been

10:18:48given an incredible amount of leeway in

10:18:50changing this area. This council

10:18:52practically rubber stamps their

10:18:53proposals and Jacobs has a very poor

10:18:56track record of following through on

10:18:57what they have committed to in front of

10:18:59this city council. I don't think we

10:19:01should continue down that road, giving

10:19:02them even more leeway with our city.

10:19:05Second, the application the applicants

10:19:06materials claim these skyways meet the

10:19:08requirement that they be ADA accessible.

10:19:10They also claim they are compliant with

10:19:11the requirement that two-way access

10:19:13should not exceed 50 ft of travel to the

10:19:15point of entry to the skyway vertical

10:19:16access. How is this going to work for

10:19:19ADA access? Where are the details on

10:19:21street level entry, proximity to an

10:19:22elevator in skyway vertical access? Uh

10:19:25the third concern is exterior lighting.

10:19:28Uh my uh very small residential

10:19:30neighborhood is just a few blocks away

10:19:32from this place. Um, I can hear the the

10:19:35music festivals and I can see the glow

10:19:37plaza and I can see the J the Jay's uh

10:19:40architectural LED lighting. Um, the

10:19:43applicants renderings show glaring blue

10:19:45LED lighting on the exterior. The skyway

10:19:47design requirements 14B covering

10:19:49exterior lighting do not allow for

10:19:51glaring LED architectural lighting as

10:19:53pictured in the renderings. So, it is my

10:19:56belief that this project cannot proceed

10:19:58as proposed. Uh, thank you for

10:20:00listening. Uh, it's been a long day. Uh

10:20:04I would love it if you would all would

10:20:05listen to the uh the public a little bit

10:20:07more. Uh when you count the number of uh

10:20:09comments that you have in opposition to

10:20:11things, uh it would be lovely if uh if

10:20:14you honored those people's wishes. Have

10:20:16a great night.

10:20:17>> Thanks so much.

10:20:18>> Thank you.

10:20:18>> I yield the rest of my time.

10:20:20>> Thank you.

10:20:21>> Maya Johnson via Zoom followed by Adrien

10:20:23Lowry via Zoom.

10:20:26>> Good evening. Can you hear me?

10:20:28>> Yes, we can.

10:20:29>> Okay. Hey, Maya Johnson. For the record,

10:20:31I've offered extensive comments at the

10:20:33NAB and the planning commission already,

10:20:34so I'll keep this short. I just want to

10:20:37reiterate that this project's stated

10:20:38goal in the application is to remove

10:20:40pedestrians from the street to

10:20:41prioritize automobile traffic. Arguing

10:20:44that building a sky here skyway here

10:20:46meets activation criteria because the

10:20:47applicant happens to own over 75% of the

10:20:49property in the area is disingenuous.

10:20:52Jacobs is building yet another

10:20:53integrated resort like the Row or the

10:20:55Atlantis oriented toward automobile

10:20:57tourism and they are clearly not

10:20:58interested in traditional urban

10:21:00pedestrian activity. Examples given to

10:21:02promote the project during the planning

10:21:03commission meeting last week almost

10:21:05entirely revolved around the alleged

10:21:06benefit of enabling resort and event

10:21:08patrons to travel between their parked

10:21:10cars and Jacob's properties without

10:21:11interacting with the street. We know

10:21:13that many of Reno's current problems are

10:21:15the legacy of over reliance on cars and

10:21:17large self-contained resorts. That's why

10:21:19we have a master plan that aims to

10:21:20densify, diversify, and pedestrianize

10:21:22the city and its economy. Why are we now

10:21:24talking about going backwards? That's

10:21:26all.

10:21:28>> Okay. Thank you. Adrien Lowry via Zoom.

10:21:36>> Hello, my name is Adrien Lowry. I'm

10:21:38speaking in opposition to this item. Um,

10:21:41I agree with a lot of what other people

10:21:43have said that it does not uh benefit

10:21:46the community as as a whole and

10:21:48primarily benefits Jacob's

10:21:50Entertainment. Um, it causes issues for

10:21:53pedestrian traffic. Um,

10:21:57thank you.

10:21:59>> Okay. Thanks so much. And there's no one

10:22:02else registered to speak. Okay. Thank

10:22:04you. All right. Um any further questions

10:22:07from councel to the applicant to

10:22:11is there um anything that you want to

10:22:13get up and address? Leah see you over

10:22:15there. No. Mr. Gordon,

10:22:19anything you want to get up and put on

10:22:21the record?

10:22:21>> Respond to your questions, but no.

10:22:23>> Okay. Um yeah, actually I have a couple

10:22:25of questions for you. Uh when were you

10:22:28thinking about starting this?

10:22:31>> Thank you, Madam Mayor, for the question

10:22:32uh for the question. So uh immediately

10:22:35uh the planning commission gave us an

10:22:37extension for 36 months and that's how

10:22:39much much time it'll take to design the

10:22:42walkways, design what the walkways

10:22:44connect to, uh consult all architects

10:22:46into final design, construction

10:22:48drawings, hire a general contractor. So

10:22:51in order to hit that 36-month deadline,

10:22:53we need to start right away.

10:22:55>> Okay. Um and then there were some public

10:22:58comments saying there's nothing on the

10:23:00other side. Why don't we talk about

10:23:01that? Because I think, you know, I I

10:23:05have to say, um,

10:23:08sometimes I I think whenever they say,

10:23:10"Oh, he he hasn't delivered." When you

10:23:13do have such a large large space, it can

10:23:17be incredibly difficult, I think, um, to

10:23:21just,

10:23:23you know, one piece at a time and things

10:23:25like that. And so to be someone that has

10:23:28really invested in downtown and turned

10:23:31on the lights, I mean, it's looking

10:23:33phenomenal. The parade down there was

10:23:36absolutely amazing. So, I get really

10:23:38frustrated. I think I take it really

10:23:40personal when we start to see these big

10:23:43improvements

10:23:45and then, you know, there's like this

10:23:51I just think that I don't know. I'm

10:23:53concerned that

10:23:56we say we want these things downtown,

10:23:58but then it becomes

10:24:01like a fight

10:24:03and and it really shouldn't be. And then

10:24:05the other thing is I've been walking

10:24:07downtown all the last I don't know 3

10:24:10months like consistently. It's

10:24:12absolutely phenomenal. Now Virginia

10:24:14Street might not be where we want it,

10:24:16but it is phenomenal. I have absolutely

10:24:19loved it and enjoyed it and I took

10:24:21people that were sitting here and you

10:24:23know downtown but I want you to talk a

10:24:25little bit about that what his plans are

10:24:27what what the vision is because I can

10:24:29understand the concern when there isn't

10:24:32something but I want to hear from you

10:24:35what that vision is what's happening

10:24:37>> yeah absolutely no thank you for the

10:24:39opportunity so the old saying Rome

10:24:41wasn't built in the day I think applies

10:24:43here um I remember there was public

10:24:45concern about Parklane Mall being demoed

10:24:48and what's coming. What's coming? What's

10:24:49coming? Look at red. Now, there was

10:24:52concern with the freight house district

10:24:54after the ballpark was built. What's

10:24:56coming? What's coming? What's coming?

10:24:57Those ballpark apartments finally

10:24:59penciled and now you have the multif

10:25:01family around the ballpark district.

10:25:03Same here. I think folks forget that

10:25:05development agreement was just approved

10:25:06less than 5 years ago and it's a 20-year

10:25:09agreement. And so, let's just look at a

10:25:11couple items that we've already fully

10:25:13complied with. the lights. We wanted to

10:25:15create kind of like I use the example of

10:25:17San Diego, the gas light gas lamp

10:25:19district. When you come into a district,

10:25:21you know you're there. We worked closely

10:25:23with the city and RTC to put in those

10:25:25lights that just came in, which were the

10:25:26design standard in the development

10:25:28agreement.

10:25:28>> Yeah.

10:25:28>> We also promised art and enter art and

10:25:31entertainment. I think you can see all

10:25:33of that Burning Man art and we also

10:25:35promised local art. Mr. Jacobs has

10:25:37invested in Burning Man, local art. All

10:25:39those most of those pieces have came

10:25:41right off the Playa into uh West Four

10:25:44Street uh in order to build that arts

10:25:46and entertainment district. And of

10:25:47course, arts and entertainment. Um I

10:25:49heard uh the public mention keeping

10:25:51everyone indoors. I think we're doing

10:25:53the exact opposite. The Glow Plaza,

10:25:56outdoor entertainment, outdoor

10:25:58activation. I know the Phil Harmonic was

10:26:00there a couple years ago. I know there's

10:26:02charities there. I know we've welcomed

10:26:04anyone and everyone from cultural events

10:26:07to nonprofits to concerts to come and

10:26:09use that space. The festival grounds

10:26:11actual in our little concrete jungle of

10:26:14that area of town, you have real grass

10:26:16for the festival grounds and now

10:26:18welcoming thousands of people there. And

10:26:20I just I wanted to confirm there's a lot

10:26:22more than one event coming up. We have

10:26:2310 events coming uh as we continue to

10:26:25build the momentum for downtown. Um, I

10:26:28stood before you and and promised some

10:26:31um u market rate housing uh with some

10:26:34senior components as well. We built

10:26:36those apartments on Second Street and um

10:26:39and Arlington along with the Renova

10:26:41Flats that got rid of the old uh gas

10:26:44station and let's not forget that was

10:26:46the number one calls for service

10:26:47downtown Reno. It was bad

10:26:50>> and certainly number one calls for

10:26:52service in regards to other horrific

10:26:55crimes like human trafficking

10:26:56trafficking in that motel behind it that

10:26:58was uh replaced with now some great

10:27:01Renova housing with artwork in the

10:27:02front. So I could continue going I know

10:27:05it's been a long day for all of you but

10:27:06I know we continue to again here's

10:27:08another example we pay money money money

10:27:10each year to the Reno Housing Authority.

10:27:12we have an option with them on a piece

10:27:14of property to hopefully do some

10:27:16convention space and some uh more

10:27:18activation and they continue to get an

10:27:21annual payment um from us. So uh yeah, I

10:27:25have been here with different renderings

10:27:27and different ideas and moving this

10:27:29development forward, but we're a quarter

10:27:31of the way through this development

10:27:33agreement. I got to say, I think we did

10:27:35a pretty good job of turning what used

10:27:37to be the sands and everything around it

10:27:40uh to what it looks like today. and this

10:27:42is just the next step and I'm very very

10:27:44optimistic and excited on behalf of

10:27:45Jacobs to see what happens in the next

10:27:4715 years.

10:27:49>> Okay, Councilman,

10:27:51>> thanks so much. Yeah, Lee, I'm wondering

10:27:53if you can come up just to make sure I

10:27:54understand this correctly because we got

10:27:56a couple public comments whether written

10:27:58or in person today about the skyways

10:28:01leading to nowhere basically and having

10:28:03these vertical structures that don't go

10:28:06anywhere. And so I'm just wondering if

10:28:08you can reiterate for us again. I know

10:28:10it was in slide in your slides, slide

10:28:13number eight. I'm looking at it right

10:28:14now the conditions of approval. I think

10:28:17it's number six, but if you can just

10:28:19reiterate that for all of us again and

10:28:21tell us that what that states.

10:28:24>> I can do that. Thank you, Vice Mayor

10:28:26Martinez. For the [clears throat]

10:28:27record, Leo Picati. So I'm just going to

10:28:29go back to it again. Um,

10:28:33we we heard the concerns

10:28:36and

10:28:38um I'm sorry, I don't know which slide

10:28:40is here. Um,

10:28:43and we put these conditions of approval

10:28:45on there. Condition number one is on

10:28:48everything, all conditional use permit

10:28:50applications. But condition six says

10:28:52that prior to issuance of a building

10:28:53permit for either pedestrian walkway, a

10:28:56building permit shall be issued for the

10:28:58building or development to which the

10:28:59pedestrian walkway will connect.

10:29:01Construction of each pedestrian walkway

10:29:04shall occur in conjunction with the

10:29:06development it is intended to serve and

10:29:09the pedestrian walkway shall not receive

10:29:11final inspection until a functional

10:29:13connection to the associated building or

10:29:16development has been established. That

10:29:19means that you have to have something on

10:29:22the other side of the street for this to

10:29:23connect to. And as the applicant has

10:29:26stated at the planning commission and

10:29:28here, I I I know that people think that

10:29:33they're just going to have all these

10:29:34plans done and they're just going to

10:29:36submit everything to us. I don't know if

10:29:38anybody has gone through uh the process

10:29:40of having, you know, architectural

10:29:43renderings done and going through all of

10:29:44that. It is not common in planning that

10:29:47somebody would come in with full plans

10:29:50for something prior to getting an

10:29:52entitlement for it. We're talking a lot

10:29:55of money for something like that. So, it

10:29:58is this is definitely normally how we

10:30:01process conditional use permits and

10:30:03entitlements. It's normal that we would

10:30:05put conditions of approval like this on

10:30:08something if there was a concern that

10:30:09nothing would be built. And it is normal

10:30:12that this will all be final within that

10:30:16specified time period. and when it comes

10:30:18in for building permit review, we will

10:30:20look at it in connection to these

10:30:23conditions of approval and make sure

10:30:24that all of the conditions have been

10:30:26satisfied.

10:30:27>> Thanks so much for explaining that and

10:30:28especially for those of us that aren't

10:30:30planners and don't understand, you know,

10:30:32maybe some of that language. My only

10:30:33other question and I'm pretty sure I

10:30:36know the answer to this, but I was just

10:30:37want to make sure that it's true. RTC,

10:30:39you mentioned um some of the comments

10:30:40that the director um already made about

10:30:43the design in and of itself, but I was

10:30:46curious about the construction when this

10:30:49is all taking place. There's been a lot

10:30:50of investment by RTC um in this council

10:30:54to improve multimodal ways of

10:30:56transportation in this area. And so I'm

10:30:58just wondering if you can help me

10:30:59understand that those spaces will still

10:31:02be protected and provided for our

10:31:04community to use even while construction

10:31:07is going on at these sites or if there

10:31:08will be ways to move around that

10:31:11neighborhood and get around through the

10:31:12areas as well.

10:31:14>> And know thanks for the question u Vice

10:31:15Mayor Martinez. Absolutely. So, we're

10:31:17required to have a construction

10:31:18management plan and that would make sure

10:31:20you not only you worrying about um uh

10:31:23traffic controls, but making sure that

10:31:25those investments by RTC, you know,

10:31:27remain and can be used and we're not

10:31:29tearing out improvements that have been

10:31:31invested in by RTC. So, we'll have a

10:31:34construction management plan. We'll work

10:31:35with our local partners, city of Reno,

10:31:37RTC, um NDOT, to the extent they have

10:31:40any involvement uh to make sure

10:31:41everything is pro protected and

10:31:43cohesive.

10:31:44>> Thank you.

10:31:45>> Thank you. Great,

10:31:47>> Madame Mayor.

10:31:48>> Um, hold on a second.

10:31:50>> Oh, sorry. I was going to make emotions.

10:31:51>> Okay, go ahead.

10:31:52>> Thank you so much. Um, Miss Picotti, I

10:31:54wanted to ask a couple of questions. One

10:31:56was you said that the primary concern

10:31:58that happened at the planning commission

10:32:00was over the sort of divergence of

10:32:02opinions about whether something was

10:32:04necessary to the importance of the

10:32:07skyway. And there was like one set of

10:32:09people believe one thing, one set of

10:32:10people believe other thing. What do you

10:32:12believe? And then also I need to ask our

10:32:14city attorney what they believe, right?

10:32:17Because it is not particularly relevant

10:32:19to what I believe about it. I'm trying

10:32:21to understand what is believed about it

10:32:22from a planner and from our legal

10:32:24counsel.

10:32:25>> Yes, that makes perfect sense. Um, thank

10:32:27you council member Reese and Leo Picotti

10:32:30for the record. So the way that the way

10:32:33that I read it is that essential to the

10:32:35project means that we are providing safe

10:32:38access to the project. So, the way that

10:32:40I looked at that is that if I came into

10:32:43town and I was staying at Jay Resort and

10:32:45I wanted to take my kids over to the

10:32:48pool, do I want to

10:32:52put my children into bathing suits, take

10:32:54them outside of the parking lot, walk

10:32:56through the parking lot, go up to the

10:32:58corner, c wait for it to be safe, cross

10:33:01the intersection, and then go over to

10:33:02the pool. And then when my child gets

10:33:05out of the pool, I'm gonna take him wet

10:33:07back uh outside of there down the

10:33:09sidewalk across the street.

10:33:12To me, this is essential if you're going

10:33:14to provide those amenities on the other

10:33:16side of the road because people aren't

10:33:18going to utilize those amenities if you

10:33:21don't have safe access to them.

10:33:23>> And so, let me understand and then I'll

10:33:25turn to our city attorney. So your

10:33:27position is that the skyway that is seen

10:33:29here in this picture which goes from the

10:33:31resort across to the pool is essential

10:33:34because it's essential for people to get

10:33:35back and forth from the pool.

10:33:37>> Exactly.

10:33:38>> If they don't build a pool, let's say

10:33:40they build a strip club, um a weed

10:33:42dispensary, um I I guess I'm trying to

10:33:45understand, you know, I I think that

10:33:48Jacob's Entertainment has has done what

10:33:51they said they were going to do. And um

10:33:54lots of projects go through evolutions.

10:33:56I I have no problem with that, but I

10:33:58want to make sure that it's not some

10:34:00really attenuated thing that they build

10:34:02something on that side, but for which

10:34:05you know people aren't running back and

10:34:06forth wet or whatever it is. I I'm

10:34:08trying to understand what is the nexus

10:34:09to what is being built on the other

10:34:11side.

10:34:12>> Um for staff, when we looked at this, we

10:34:14looked at it as resort amenities. The J

10:34:17Resort wants to expand and provide

10:34:19additional amenities to their guests and

10:34:21these pedestrian walkways provide safe

10:34:24access for their guests to their

10:34:25amenities.

10:34:26>> Okay, understand. Now I I'll turn now to

10:34:29Mr. Shipman. Mr. Shipman, has anyone

10:34:31either at the planning commission or

10:34:32would we be voting if we so choose to

10:34:35vote to approve it? Would we be

10:34:37misapplying the standard in some way?

10:34:39Would we be uh acting in contravention

10:34:41to your advice as our lawyer?

10:34:44>> No. Um, city attorney's office agrees

10:34:47with staff on the interpretation and

10:34:50it's city code. So, yes.

10:34:53>> Thank you so much. Um, let me ask Mr.

10:34:55Gordon. Oh, I guess I can I go for my

10:34:57second round? I'll try to be quick.

10:34:58>> Yeah, go ahead.

10:34:59>> Mr. Gordon, I wanted to ask um you've

10:35:02indicated that the timing of getting

10:35:04going is very quick, very soon. Um, on

10:35:06one side we have uh resort amenities

10:35:08that it looks like a pool and then on

10:35:10the other side it looks like um a

10:35:12parking structure.

10:35:14>> Yes, sir. Yes, Mr.

10:35:15>> And and is it is that what is intended

10:35:18today to be built there? Is that the

10:35:20position that you all have taken?

10:35:22>> Uh that's correct. Um that's accurate.

10:35:25>> Okay. Just want to make sure.

10:35:26>> Yeah. Thank you.

10:35:41I also I I do want to say it's the

10:35:44throwback, correct? That that arch is

10:35:47the throwback or the It's not the arch,

10:35:50it's the um

10:35:51>> 1960

10:35:52>> like an homage to the arch.

10:35:54>> Are we talking about the biggest little

10:35:55city?

10:35:56>> Uhhuh.

10:35:57>> Absolutely. I mean, if you've seen Well,

10:35:59the Belvel agreement talks about arts

10:36:01and culture, and you've seen the Glow

10:36:04Plaza. Well, there's plenty of replica

10:36:06tribute art along there. From the old

10:36:08motel signs to the Burning Man art, this

10:36:11is absolutely some tribute art that we

10:36:14think accentuates the the retro neon

10:36:18line entertainment look. I thought the

10:36:20architects did a really great job.

10:36:22provides a great um you know visual

10:36:26entry as you head from Keystone into

10:36:28downtown. And let me just say this, I

10:36:30put this on the record of planning

10:36:31commission. If there was any intent to

10:36:34replace our downtown arch with this

10:36:38replica artwork, you'd probably have

10:36:40every business in downtown standing

10:36:43behind me going, "We don't want this

10:36:45because you're moving the center of

10:36:47downtown to someplace else." That's not

10:36:48the intent. Love the downtown arch.

10:36:50It'll always be the historic arch. This

10:36:52is just a tribute to it and adds a nice

10:36:54little um element that's consistent with

10:36:57our art and entertainment theme.

10:36:59>> Yeah. Well, I absolutely love it because

10:37:01everyone probably knows that I'm a big

10:37:02fan of that R. We brought that R back.

10:37:05Uh and I believe that was from the 60s,

10:37:07right? And um it was very iconic and I

10:37:12think it would be cool especially for

10:37:13people that could visit that did visit

10:37:16Reno back in the day and then there's

10:37:18some tribute to it. I actually think

10:37:21it's it's very very cool when there it

10:37:24could have been like some crazy art

10:37:28avenuard thing or whatever. So I I I

10:37:32just think it's really really cool to

10:37:34rem, you know, remember sort of a lot of

10:37:37the history of the arch.

10:37:39>> And for the record, it's not cheap and

10:37:41it's something we thought we'd give back

10:37:42to the community to have that, you know,

10:37:45replica artwork. And it's not as if I'm

10:37:49standing here saying I wanted to say J

10:37:51Resorts corridor or J Resort. Like it's

10:37:53mentioning our city and our city

10:37:56tagline, the biggest little city in the

10:37:57world. I mean it it's perfect for what's

10:37:59going on in downtown.

10:38:01>> Okay. I Yeah, I like it a lot. I think

10:38:04it's a it's amazing. I really do. I I

10:38:08And there are cities that have um like I

10:38:10think there's a city what what is it?

10:38:12City the Arches. City of Arches.

10:38:16>> There's St. Louis, I think, city of

10:38:18arches.

10:38:19>> Yeah. And for the record, let's not

10:38:20forget like there's the arch in front of

10:38:22the Renaissance over here as well,

10:38:24automobile museum, right? That gives

10:38:26kind of a tribute to where that that

10:38:28arch. So, yeah, I think our city likes

10:38:31arches. We're the biggest little city in

10:38:33the world. Like, we're adding a little

10:38:34flavor to this one. It It's pretty cool.

10:38:36>> Yeah, I love that. Okay. All right.

10:38:41>> Um, Madame Mayor,

10:38:42>> go ahead.

10:38:43>> Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to

10:38:45clarify something that I think may have

10:38:47got lost in this conversation and that

10:38:49is I'm very impressed with what Jacobs

10:38:52has done and the investment that's been

10:38:54made and that is not what is at issue. I

10:38:57don't even have a qual about uh Mr.

10:38:59Gordon's point about taking 20 years.

10:39:02Lots of big projects take a a period of

10:39:04time. What we're here today is not a

10:39:07referendum on the Jacobs project or

10:39:10whether they did it well or whether the

10:39:12art is perfect. We're here to evaluate

10:39:15an arch and I find that the arch is

10:39:19inappropriate and that's my opinion

10:39:22based on a number you know years of

10:39:24experience on the council based on the

10:39:27fact that we have worked so hard to get

10:39:31street level activation and I I do think

10:39:34that it might not be a perfect

10:39:36appropriate to put a pool across the

10:39:39street like the pool was initially

10:39:42showed on on the on the piece of land

10:39:44that the hotel is on in several

10:39:46different configurations. I've seen it

10:39:48probably in three places. And I think

10:39:50that if you want your guests to enjoy a

10:39:52pool, you're going to put it somewhat

10:39:54near the rooms. And um so I don't think

10:39:57that I I think they'd save themselves a

10:39:59lot of money um and building in an arch

10:40:02to get to a pool that's very far away.

10:40:05Um and that's just my perspective. I

10:40:07don't even if a arch is allowed it's

10:40:09kind of one of those famous sayings that

10:40:11just because you can doesn't mean you

10:40:13should and I think we should as a

10:40:15council be working towards every aspect

10:40:18of um in activating the street and

10:40:21having people on the street and we have

10:40:24been so concerned about the arches on

10:40:26Virginia Street and Sierra Street and I

10:40:28understand they're large but regardless

10:40:30they transfer people from one side of

10:40:32the street to the other without the

10:40:34people being on the ground and it's

10:40:36problematic. And uh to the earlier

10:40:38point, one of the commenters talked

10:40:40about the fact that the early rendition

10:40:43showed activation on the street with not

10:40:45with parking garages, but with stores or

10:40:49uh places to go. And I think that's

10:40:51really what we should be shooting for.

10:40:54Um neither a private pool um that is for

10:40:57the casino nor a necessarily a parking

10:41:01garage. I I you know, I'm buying my

10:41:02garages. You know, one of the first

10:41:04things I did was buy the parking garage

10:41:06so we could all park at Reno City Hall.

10:41:08Um, kind of essential. There is no

10:41:10parking. I don't know where we'd put

10:41:11hundreds of staff cars. But just I just

10:41:15want to be clear that this is not a

10:41:17referendum on the Jacob's plan, the

10:41:20amount of money that they've invested,

10:41:21the beautiful art that they've brought

10:41:23both within and without. This is really

10:41:25just about the arch. And I I just don't

10:41:28believe that it it is appropriate to

10:41:31have one and sort of go in the opposite

10:41:33direction of where our goals have been.

10:41:35So I won't be supporting this, but it is

10:41:37not a vote against the casino or the

10:41:41effort or the whole neon line at all. It

10:41:44is just about this element. Thank you.

10:41:49>> All right,

10:41:52>> Councilwoman Eber, I don't see your hand

10:41:54up, so I'm just calling on you. Is she

10:41:57there?

10:41:57>> I don't right now. Thank you. Perfect.

10:41:59>> Okay, I'm gonna send it to um

10:42:01>> Madame Mayor, can I just I just wanted

10:42:03to offer another perspective. I don't

10:42:05have any questions.

10:42:06>> Go ahead.

10:42:07>> But um it's just so interesting people's

10:42:10perspectives and view on life based on

10:42:14where you're from and what you value and

10:42:15what you spend time, you know, in your

10:42:18personal life doing. Because from my

10:42:20perspective, being a retired travel

10:42:23ball, travel sport mom

10:42:27and being so committed over the course

10:42:29of my career of rebranding Reno and

10:42:32getting more butts and beds and more

10:42:35butts and seats and,

10:42:37>> you know, on flights and whatnot. More

10:42:39people for our, you know, ski resorts,

10:42:42more people for all of our resorts. I

10:42:45see this resort plan in this area that

10:42:49Mr. Jacobs owns as a drive market travel

10:42:52sports tourism dream. This is a family

10:42:56travel dream. Whether you're coming to

10:42:59go to an outdoor concert, I see teams

10:43:02booking Reno constantly because they can

10:43:06do familyfriendly things within a

10:43:09walkable space of the place that they

10:43:11stay, the place that their their kids

10:43:14are playing their sport where they the

10:43:18the younger kids can go to the pool.

10:43:20This has been this people spend five,

10:43:23six, seven, eight years of their lives

10:43:26year round traveling to places. And Mr.

10:43:30Gordon is right, we send all of our

10:43:32dollars to California. This is a tourism

10:43:35dream. And so I hope that this is the

10:43:39plan that actually gets executed. And I

10:43:42just I just wanted to offer that other

10:43:44perspective because I have been

10:43:46committed my entire career to helping

10:43:49Reno rebrand so that we can build our

10:43:51tourism dollars because that's how we

10:43:53survive. If we can't grow, we have to

10:43:55grow our visitation. This is incredible.

10:43:59$ 36 billion a year is spent on travel

10:44:02sports, youth travel sports a year. Why

10:44:05shouldn't Reno be capitalizing on this?

10:44:07This is a real gift. And that's just my

10:44:09perspective. Thank you.

10:44:11>> It seems to be very subjective, too,

10:44:13which I think is really interesting.

10:44:15It's like art in some ways is kind of

10:44:17how I'm looking at it that it seems to

10:44:19be pretty subjective. However, um you

10:44:22know, when we did have the parade, how

10:44:25cool would that have been? People can go

10:44:27that way and go this way. And so, I

10:44:29don't look at it as like where you're,

10:44:30you know, stopping access. As a matter

10:44:32of fact, I spent a lot of time in

10:44:34Minneapolis and they connect that whole

10:44:36entire downtown with um walkways because

10:44:40it's very cold and but you never hear

10:44:43someone say, "Oh, that's a terrible

10:44:44place. They have all these walkways, you

10:44:46know." But I also I really love love

10:44:48love that arch so much. I love that

10:44:51arch. Everyone knows if you've seen the

10:44:54the pin, the biggest little city pin,

10:44:56the R from the throwback, it's actually

10:44:59tribute to to that arch. But it does

10:45:02seem like it's a little subjective. Um,

10:45:05and I do think for tourism purposes that

10:45:09it is really attractive and a nice

10:45:12amenity. So again, subjective, I think.

10:45:17Okay. Uh, that's it. Okay. Okay, I'm

10:45:21going to hand it to you. Ward one,

10:45:23council one.

10:45:25>> Thank you. I move to pull the

10:45:26recommendation of the planning

10:45:27commission with the modification the

10:45:29condition number two to extend the time

10:45:30frame to obtain building permits from 18

10:45:33to 36 months.

10:45:35>> All right. So, I have a motion.

10:45:36>> Second.

10:45:36>> I have a second. Any discussion?

10:45:38>> Madame Mayor, I can make all findings

10:45:40related to item D1 under the general

10:45:42review criteria. I find that the

10:45:44development supports the master plan

10:45:45policies related to active activity and

10:45:48generating uses. Secondarily, I find it

10:45:51complies with title 18 and the skyway

10:45:54design guidelines contained in appendix

10:45:55B of the re municipal code. And finally,

10:45:58that it reduces the pedestrian walkway

10:46:00um mitigation of traffic impacts across

10:46:02fourth and

10:46:06um okay, any other Councilwoman Der,

10:46:11Councilwoman Eert, I see your hand up.

10:46:16No,

10:46:17>> my hand's not up.

10:46:20>> Oh, it went on my end.

10:46:21>> Oh, it just went down. Okay. Uh, all

10:46:23those in favor say yes.

10:46:25>> All those in favor say I.

10:46:26>> I. All those opposed?

10:46:29>> No.

10:46:30>> Motion carries. Okay.

10:46:33All right. Six one. Um,

10:46:39>> we are ready to

10:46:41>> go into item C3.

10:46:44This is the special activity permitting

10:46:46process discussion.

10:46:48I'm excited about this. L's was like, I

10:46:51want to go home. We're going to get at

10:46:53that point where we're all getting

10:46:54really loopy and tired and giddy and I

10:46:58know I get like that. [laughter]

10:47:00>> You ready?

10:47:01>> I'm ready.

10:47:02>> Okay, you got this.

10:47:03>> Thank you. Hello, mayor and council

10:47:04members. Alex Taylor, management analyst

10:47:06for business licensing. Today, I am here

10:47:09to go over the special activity

10:47:11permitting process. I'll go over the

10:47:13background, application requirements,

10:47:15permits issued, um, and the fee

10:47:17collections, as well as some recent

10:47:18updates and a recommendation.

10:47:21For background, earlier this July, the

10:47:23mayor had requested an overview of the

10:47:26special activity permitting process.

10:47:29So, what is a special activity? Um, in

10:47:322008, the definition of a special

10:47:34activity was added into Reno Municipal

10:47:37Code section 5.13, and it has remained

10:47:40unchanged since then. You may all be

10:47:42familiar with what a special event is

10:47:44where it takes place on city parks, um

10:47:47streets or a sidewalk. However, a

10:47:50special activity is the same premise. It

10:47:52is just held on commercial private

10:47:54property or a licensed business

10:47:56location.

10:47:58Um I've included the definition of a

10:48:00special activity per of a special

10:48:02activity here, but to summarize, a

10:48:04special activity is an event that is

10:48:06held on commercial private property such

10:48:08as a business or a parking lot. Um, it

10:48:11is temporary in nature and is not a part

10:48:13of the normal business activities at

10:48:15that licensed location. It is not a

10:48:18private event. It is open to the public

10:48:20by either being ticketed or free to the

10:48:22public. Um, it has vendors or

10:48:24exhibitors. It has alcohol or secondhand

10:48:27sales which we deem as privileged

10:48:28activity and or it may have live

10:48:30entertainment at that location.

10:48:34Examples of these um special activities

10:48:36that our permit office permits are

10:48:38pop-up tableabling events, um sip and

10:48:41shop events, gun shows, antique shows,

10:48:44circuses, carnivals, or food truck

10:48:46series in a parking lot.

10:48:49Why do we require the city permits? Um

10:48:51this oversight helps protect the

10:48:53community, maintain orderly operations

10:48:55within the city, and support successful

10:48:57and compliant events. The fire

10:49:00department reviews and make

10:49:01determination if a fire inspection is

10:49:03required for an activity. The Northern

10:49:05Nevada Public Health reviews food and

10:49:07beverage operations occurring at an

10:49:09activity. And the business licensing

10:49:11department reviews vendor activity,

10:49:13assesses tempor temporary vendor permit

10:49:15fees, and also reviews alcohol

10:49:17regulations at that activity.

10:49:21Um, these are the application

10:49:23requirements. is a fairly standard

10:49:24process. If it is a privileged

10:49:26application, which again means that it

10:49:28has alcohol or secondhand sales there,

10:49:31um the application needs to be submitted

10:49:3330 days in advance to allow for a proper

10:49:35background check in the event that that

10:49:37event promoter requires one. If it is a

10:49:40standard event that does not have any

10:49:42alcohol or secondhand sales, it needs to

10:49:44be submitted 15 days in advance. And

10:49:46during the process of review, we request

10:49:48for a vendor list. And what this vendor

10:49:50list provi when um the event promoter

10:49:54provides a vendor list to us, our office

10:49:56reviews it to make determination if

10:49:58there are any unlicensed um vendors and

10:50:02they require a temporary vendor permit.

10:50:04If there are any food or beverage sales

10:50:07at this activity, then we route this

10:50:09over to the Northern Nevada Public

10:50:10Health team so that they can review it

10:50:12and make determination if that food

10:50:14vendor has its own permits or if it

10:50:16needs to apply for temporary food

10:50:18permits. Lastly, we also request that a

10:50:20a site map be provided and the fire

10:50:23department will review this um site map

10:50:25in conjunction with the with the

10:50:27activity description and make sure that

10:50:30um an inspection would need to occur.

10:50:33The fire department also reviews any

10:50:35additional fire permits that may be

10:50:37required at the activity. And some of

10:50:39those um additional permits may be

10:50:42related to pyrochnics or cold sparks or

10:50:45vehicle displays um or tents in excess

10:50:47of 400 square feet.

10:50:52[sighs and gasps] These are the permit

10:50:53fees um that are outlined here of what

10:50:56an event promoter can expect to pay um

10:50:58based on the adopted fiscal year 27 fee

10:51:01schedule.

10:51:03An application fee is $163.60.

10:51:06A temporary vendor permit fee is $20.60.

10:51:09An alcohol permit fee is $71 unless you

10:51:12already have that um approved alcohol

10:51:14catering license. And fire inspection

10:51:16fees range from $15 to $410. Um there is

10:51:20a range here because of additional

10:51:22permitting that may be required. I

10:51:24mentioned earlier before and also it

10:51:26depends on the timing of the event. If

10:51:29the event occurs at a standard Monday

10:51:31through Friday, 8 am to 5:00 pm

10:51:33operating hours, um normal fire

10:51:35inspection fees are assessed. However,

10:51:37if it's outside of um those operating

10:51:40hours, then an overtime inspection fee

10:51:43is assessed. Northern Nevada Public

10:51:45Health also has fees ranging from $189

10:51:49to $584 depending on the type of food

10:51:52that's being sold and the length of the

10:51:55event.

10:51:59So, tying all this in together, um I

10:52:01wanted to provide all of you with a real

10:52:03world example that we receive up here.

10:52:05You'll see a flyer for a fifth

10:52:07anniversary parking lot. Um this is a

10:52:10furniture store that is celebrating

10:52:12their fifth year and just wants to bring

10:52:14in a bunch of people here. Um you will

10:52:16see through this site plan that they are

10:52:18going to have a bounce house, um a tent

10:52:21and alcohol. This application meets all

10:52:25of the requirements for a special

10:52:26activity permit. We have deemed that is

10:52:28necessary to apply for a permit. Um the

10:52:31fire department is going to review this

10:52:32bounce house. They're going to permit

10:52:34this um 400 foot tent and they're also

10:52:36going to make sure that the egress is

10:52:38maintained appropriately.

10:52:40The fire department, I'm sorry, the um

10:52:42Northern Northern Nevada public health

10:52:44team will be reviewing all of the food

10:52:45vendors here and the alcohol um truck

10:52:48that is going to be at this event. And

10:52:50then the business licensing office will

10:52:51be making sure that all of the um

10:52:54vendors here do have licenses or pay for

10:52:56their temporary permit fee and that they

10:52:59are complying with all of the alcohol

10:53:00guidelines and the DJ making sure that

10:53:03the sound is off by a certain time.

10:53:06Based on this application, an um

10:53:08applicant would expect to pay

10:53:10approximately $678 for this activity.

10:53:15Uh these are some figures for the last

10:53:17three fiscal years of uh special

10:53:19activity. We have issued in fiscal year

10:53:2224 we have issued 298 permits. In fiscal

10:53:26year 2025 we issued 309 and in fiscal

10:53:29year 2026 we issued 280.

10:53:32As you can see um we issued a little bit

10:53:35less than we did in less this past year

10:53:38than in fiscal year 2025. And in large

10:53:40part of it has to do with some changes

10:53:41that we've made. Um our office has

10:53:45worked with event promoters to identify

10:53:47some challenges within the city's

10:53:49special activity permitting

10:53:50requirements. Reno municipal code has

10:53:52not been changed since 2008 in in

10:53:55relation to special activities and the

10:53:56definition of special activities. as um

10:53:59special activities have evolved where

10:54:01there's a rise of widely advertised

10:54:03pop-up shops and more creative business

10:54:05promotions where small business ventures

10:54:08um are trying to gain in more activity

10:54:10and more revenue or more um foot traffic

10:54:12into their businesses. We have really

10:54:14worked with our um

10:54:17event promoters and businesses to help

10:54:19support them while still maintaining the

10:54:22framework of Reno Municipal Code. Um, we

10:54:26have made some in improvements and these

10:54:29are the three main ones that I'd like to

10:54:30point out today. The first one is a

10:54:32blanket permit or a recurring permit.

10:54:35And what this says is that if your event

10:54:38is recurring, and I apologize, if your

10:54:41activity is recurring on a regular basis

10:54:43and there's no change to the footprint

10:54:45of your of your event, then you only

10:54:49need to submit one activity permit with

10:54:51us and then notify the office prior to

10:54:54each activity with any changes to your

10:54:56vendor list.

10:54:58Um to give you an example,

10:55:01we have a couple of farmers markets here

10:55:03that are on commercial property. And

10:55:05these farmers markets were held

10:55:07seasonally from June all the way until

10:55:09September. That's approximately 17 weeks

10:55:12of permitting. Prior to us putting in

10:55:15place this blanket permit policy, they

10:55:17were required to pay $2,700 in

10:55:20application fees alone for that entire

10:55:22span. With this new policy that we have

10:55:25put in place, the applicant is now only

10:55:27spending approximately $163 plus any

10:55:30additional vendor fees um for each week

10:55:33that they have. This has greatly helped

10:55:35out the food truck series um farmers

10:55:38markets and other sip and shop events

10:55:39and has also helped out with um with

10:55:43event venues that are licensed to be

10:55:45event venues but hold different types of

10:55:49events at their locations. And some of

10:55:51those examples are Village at Ranchera

10:55:53or Reno Public Market.

10:55:55Secondly, um this council has approved

10:55:58amendments to title 18 regarding live

10:56:00entertainment. By reducing restrictions,

10:56:03businesses can now obtain a cabaret

10:56:05license without the need for additional

10:56:07conditional use permits. As a result,

10:56:09businesses um offering live

10:56:11entertainment or amplified sound no

10:56:14longer need that special activity

10:56:15permit.

10:56:17Um, lastly, we addressed concerns from

10:56:20event promoters regarding fire

10:56:21inspections at established business

10:56:23locations. Previously, all event and

10:56:26activity permits were required to pay a

10:56:29fire inspection fee and have to go

10:56:31through that entire inspection fee. Um,

10:56:33with recent updates to the fire

10:56:35department's procedures, their team now

10:56:36reviews the site plan first prior to

10:56:38determining if an inspection is

10:56:40required. That review consists of the

10:56:42location, the history at that location,

10:56:45the type of the event, and the type of

10:56:47vendors that are going to be at that

10:56:48activity. Um, they will review this and

10:56:51then make determination if an inspection

10:56:52is required, and if so, the promoter is

10:56:55now notified prior to the permit being

10:56:57issued.

10:56:59The special activity per permitting

10:57:01process has been going very smoothly,

10:57:03especially with these new changes. Um,

10:57:05however, it could always be a little bit

10:57:07better, right? Um, so we would request

10:57:10that we would want to revise Reno

10:57:12Municipal Code section 5.13. Um, special

10:57:15activities is just a definition in there

10:57:17and it's kind of lumped together with

10:57:18all of the special events that occur

10:57:21here. So, we would like to codify some

10:57:22of these policies that we've put in

10:57:24place. Um, we'd also like to review some

10:57:26of the existing exemptions in here. Um,

10:57:29currently the only exemptions that for

10:57:32not having to get a special activity

10:57:34permit are when they're closed

10:57:36conventions such as a trade show or if

10:57:38it's a private event such as a wedding

10:57:39or a birthday party. Um, or if it's a

10:57:42fundraiser and it's just a fundraiser

10:57:45with no other privileged element to it.

10:57:48Um, we'd also like to include the

10:57:50definition of temporary. We don't have

10:57:52what we truly the city truly deems as

10:57:55temporary. We've worked with the

10:57:56planning division um to make that

10:57:58determination and at this time we state

10:58:00that if a business is going to be

10:58:02hosting these activities that they can

10:58:04only apply for six in a year. Um

10:58:07anything outside of the at anything more

10:58:09than six would be considered part of

10:58:10their normal business activities and

10:58:12then we would request that they come in

10:58:14to compliance and um change their

10:58:16license to reflect those activities.

10:58:19With that, um, that was my presentation

10:58:21and I am available for any questions and

10:58:23I also have the fire department here if

10:58:25you'd have any questions for them.

10:58:26>> Okay, good. That's fantastic. Anyone

10:58:29have any questions?

10:58:30>> No. Okay, I have some questions.

10:58:32>> Okay, first of all, good job, Lance. I'm

10:58:35so happy.

10:58:37>> Impressive.

10:58:39>> Thank you.

10:58:40>> My goodness. I Very, very good job well

10:58:43done. She's She gets business. I love

10:58:46it. Um, okay. Tell me what

10:58:50what um you said what what does trigger

10:58:53a privilege

10:58:54>> when there is alcohol on site that is

10:58:57not already licensed there?

10:58:59>> Well, let me ask you this because I see

10:59:01businesses do it all the time. Like they

10:59:03might be having like a I don't know like

10:59:07a

10:59:10like an event for girls. They like do

10:59:12this divas night out whatever they do.

10:59:14Um, and then there'll be like 15 people

10:59:16there and they'll serve like everyone a

10:59:18glass of champagne. Are you saying that

10:59:20they have to get a license for that? So

10:59:23depending on where the activity is

10:59:26occurring

10:59:27um in using like a diva's night out or a

10:59:30girls night out type of activity where

10:59:32they're where they are advertising this

10:59:34to the public

10:59:36in means of gaining revenue or changing

10:59:40the overall um business activity at that

10:59:44location then it would require a permit.

10:59:46So if it's just a bunch of girls going

10:59:48out, then no, we wouldn't require

10:59:50>> talking about like businesses. You see

10:59:52them do it all the time if they have a

10:59:53certain promotion in their business. So

10:59:55I'm trying to figure out what exactly

10:59:58triggers like you said that privilege

11:00:01license.

11:00:02>> Yes. So, um, if if at that location a

11:00:07licensed alcohol caterer is going to be

11:00:09serving the alcohol, we would request

11:00:11that a special activity permit be pulled

11:00:14because the location

11:00:15>> could be a caterer.

11:00:16>> It could be an it could be a bar. Um,

11:00:18the alcohol they just have to have a

11:00:20privileged alcohol license with the city

11:00:22of Reno. But if it's an alcohol caterer,

11:00:25then they bypass having to pay the

11:00:26additional alcohol fee that we assess.

11:00:29>> Okay. So, what else triggers that? What

11:00:32else are would make us need to get this

11:00:35permit?

11:00:36>> Um, if any vendors are going to be

11:00:37present, whether they're selling,

11:00:39serving, or displaying, or advertising

11:00:41themselves out of

11:00:42>> So, if I own a business and I say, and

11:00:45Brandy makes um bikinis, and I say,

11:00:48"Hey, Brandy, I'd love for you to come

11:00:50and show your bikinis inside my store."

11:00:52>> We wouldn't require a permit for that,

11:00:53assuming that um, Council Member

11:00:55Anderson had her own business license

11:00:57because she is operating her own

11:00:58business as well. So, she's okay to come

11:01:00into my store and promote her bikinis.

11:01:03>> Correct.

11:01:03>> Okay.

11:01:04>> Right.

11:01:05>> Awesome. [laughter]

11:01:06>> Because I understand that that changed.

11:01:09Correct. So, that was not a thing you

11:01:12and which I think is really hard on a

11:01:13lot of these cottage industry

11:01:16um small businesses for them to, you

11:01:19know, kind of have and they're not

11:01:20making a lot of money. It's, you know,

11:01:23they're just sort of these startups and

11:01:24sometimes businesses will host them.

11:01:26Good job, Lance. very proud of you.

11:01:30[laughter]

11:01:31>> Bry's like, I don't make bikinis.

11:01:35I could see Brandy making a great

11:01:36bikini. Why are you laughing?

11:01:43I'm thinking though of strange bikinis

11:01:45like people in town, local companies.

11:01:51>> So, it really is a thing. It's a thing.

11:01:54Uh, what else? Any what else would

11:01:56trigger that? I think you've done a

11:01:58really good job, Lance. There is one

11:02:00more thing I want to really I want to

11:02:01put on here. Here's where sometimes I

11:02:03get a little I'm I'm a little curious. I

11:02:08can understand over certain and you're

11:02:10going to understand this, especially

11:02:12like tents because those can pose a fire

11:02:15risk, right? The bounce houses, those

11:02:17can pose a safety risk. Um, and what I'm

11:02:21talking about is that

11:02:24I did you say there was a certain amount

11:02:26of people or it triggers a um 400. Did

11:02:30you

11:02:30>> if the tent the tent is 400 square feet

11:02:32where it would require a permit, but if

11:02:35it's just like um those easy up pop-up

11:02:37tents, there's no permitting required

11:02:39behind that.

11:02:39>> Because here's what I'm just curious

11:02:41about. you have a business, it's their

11:02:43property, not on the city street and

11:02:46they have other stores in that obviously

11:02:49location.

11:02:51>> If it's a private property and it is

11:02:53falls under a certain maybe like number

11:02:56of people occ you know occupied

11:02:59>> something like that.

11:03:00>> There's nothing in code reflecting

11:03:02number of attendees. Um, we do request

11:03:05that when we have our when we when an

11:03:08applicant submits their special activity

11:03:10permit because then it helps the fire

11:03:12department determine how many exits um

11:03:15the activity is going to need and it

11:03:17also helps the health department

11:03:19understand what triggers they may have

11:03:22on.

11:03:22>> And what's a popup? a popup event. Um,

11:03:25it could be anywhere from at the

11:03:28convention center where there's just a

11:03:30huge craft show or it could be using

11:03:33your example, you own a clothing store

11:03:36and you want to bring in other vendors

11:03:38who have that. But once you start

11:03:40advertising it as bringing in more

11:03:42people and changing the entire layout of

11:03:44your business to bring in these

11:03:48additional people is when we start to

11:03:50really analyze a permit a license. Then

11:03:54do I need a special activities license

11:03:56if I want to bring in five vendors like

11:03:59Brandy for a night? [clears throat]

11:04:01>> It I think it would really depend on the

11:04:03general layout and what you were doing

11:04:06there and how you're bringing people in.

11:04:08If you were just saying you're a

11:04:10clothing store and you are licensed to

11:04:12sell clothes and you are bringing in

11:04:14other people who are also selling

11:04:15clothing or general merchandise, we

11:04:18wouldn't require a permit for that. But

11:04:19if you were bringing in food and

11:04:22advertising this activity as I am having

11:04:27five additional vendors and I also want

11:04:29you to come and have a tasting menu.

11:04:31Then that would require a permit because

11:04:33food is not a part of your normal

11:04:35business activity.

11:04:36>> What about shoelaces?

11:04:38>> It's general merchandise. Would all be

11:04:40classified under the same?

11:04:41>> It would be okay.

11:04:42>> So I don't have to come and get a

11:04:44license.

11:04:45>> You don't have to come and get a special

11:04:46activity permit.

11:04:47>> Okay. Okay. Um, I'm not going to I I

11:04:49have a million more questions. I don't

11:04:50want to like belabor this. We have still

11:04:53so much that we've got to do. Um, so

11:04:56what I'd love is to request to um, city

11:04:59manager over here, Norma Santoo. Um, I

11:05:03would love to bring it back to the next

11:05:06um, council meeting and maybe I will

11:05:09work with you and we'll dial it in so it

11:05:11will we'll get it pretty streamlined. I

11:05:14don't want to continue to on. And then

11:05:16one more thing I do want to bring up,

11:05:18Lance, because I want to get you guys

11:05:20home. Um, if you could bring it back at

11:05:23the same time. And it happened to me and

11:05:25it just happened to someone else and

11:05:27they reached out to me and they said, I

11:05:29this doesn't make any sense. I didn't

11:05:31really bring it up because it happened

11:05:32to me and whenever you change things

11:05:34whenever it happened to someone within

11:05:36council, it doesn't make any sense. But

11:05:38when other businesses start to say this,

11:05:40what happens is if you and and I think

11:05:43it's a special, you'll have to tell me

11:05:46what it is. I forgot what they call it.

11:05:48But it would trigger a second

11:05:51um what is it? Background check. When

11:05:55you move, it triggers a second

11:05:57background check. And you already have

11:05:59one for this five-year window. It seems

11:06:02really redundant to have two background

11:06:04checks only because you're moving.

11:06:07So, are you changing this? I could see

11:06:09she's like, "So,

11:06:10>> I think this is related to a business

11:06:12license question and that Reno municipal

11:06:16code states that if you haven't had a

11:06:17background check with your business in

11:06:20over 24 months, then you have to go

11:06:22through a new background check."

11:06:23>> Okay. Well, I the how I understood it is

11:06:25that you'd have to get a second one in

11:06:28um if you have not in the last five

11:06:31years.

11:06:32>> It's it's two years for the city.

11:06:34>> Is it two years? Correct. So after two

11:06:36years we have to go get another one.

11:06:37>> If you make any changes to your business

11:06:40license. So in this case in

11:06:42>> what do you mean make changes to the

11:06:43business license?

11:06:44>> Because this business is moving to

11:06:46another location that is effectively

11:06:48changing their license and now we're

11:06:50reviewing that

11:06:51>> just because they're moving

11:06:52>> only because they moved location. Same

11:06:55business same everything.

11:06:56>> Yes. And it'll also go through the

11:06:57standard instruction.

11:06:58>> Would you um put that on the agenda?

11:07:01>> Yes. We will agenda just to elaborate

11:07:03real quick. Lance for auto for record.

11:07:05Go ahead. Um I looking back at the

11:07:06history of that of how that was put into

11:07:08code that was actually brought forward

11:07:09by RPD

11:07:10>> in I think 2012

11:07:132015 something like in that window um

11:07:16>> many uh regulatory agencies across the

11:07:20country anytime they get a chance to

11:07:22look at a privileged activity um

11:07:24including gaming, cannabis, um

11:07:27privileged license like alcohol in the

11:07:28city, they will open that up and take

11:07:30that opportunity to do another

11:07:31background check. didn't used to be the

11:07:33case, but it was a request from the PD

11:07:36about 10 this year ago. So, but we're

11:07:37happy to revisit it and take a look and

11:07:39and speak with

11:07:40>> chief. People have brought that up to me

11:07:42a lot or look at which businesses are

11:07:44required to do that because it was

11:07:46clothing store.

11:07:47>> Sure.

11:07:47>> Weird.

11:07:48>> I get like alcohol and things like that.

11:07:53>> We can look into it.

11:07:54>> Go ahead. Go ahead.

11:07:55>> Thank you so much. Um Miss Taylor, I

11:07:57wanted to ask a couple things. Um,

11:07:59number one, I don't know that um, I've

11:08:01recall you presenting before. Is this

11:08:03your first time presenting?

11:08:04>> My first time.

11:08:05>> Fantastic.

11:08:06>> Um, not only is it fantastic, you did an

11:08:09amazing job. We're all punchy either

11:08:12way. But let me ask and say it this way,

11:08:14and maybe this will help to understand

11:08:16um, what I am hoping in the next

11:08:18iteration of this. Um, I do not own a

11:08:21small business. Madame Mayor owns a

11:08:24small business. I mean, I am a small

11:08:25business person, but mine is a law firm.

11:08:27I don't do this type of stuff. And so

11:08:30what strikes me about this conversation

11:08:31is just the idea that um it's

11:08:34complicated, right? you you both started

11:08:36talking another language and I didn't

11:08:38totally understand who was doing the

11:08:40popup and who was required to pull the

11:08:42permit and and what I'm hoping is that a

11:08:45you think about that as you figure out

11:08:48how to share what we do here at the city

11:08:50with others and then also that somehow

11:08:53through business licensing there might

11:08:55be some I I don't know we we're doing

11:08:57this at um Northern Nevada Public Health

11:09:00where we're we open it up to people to

11:09:02come and have like a roundt discussion

11:09:04or some way to like explain to the

11:09:06community. You want to do a I don't know

11:09:10a bingo thing at your event at your

11:09:15store and you want to get uh swimsuit

11:09:18models with

11:09:19>> Bry's bikinis there and you also want to

11:09:22have water and and a pop-up tent because

11:09:25you showed the one about the furniture

11:09:26store.

11:09:27>> I don't know how we would know that.

11:09:29Like you know it but some small business

11:09:31owner might not. And so I just want to

11:09:33make sure that we're doing everything we

11:09:34can because we want all those

11:09:35activations. Uh we don't want to be

11:09:38running around bopping people on the

11:09:39nose because they didn't know they had

11:09:40to do a thing. We want them to come into

11:09:42compliance and we're doing it because

11:09:44it's safety and fire and we all want all

11:09:45those things. But just somehow we got to

11:09:47be communicating with the business

11:09:48community that we are um progressive and

11:09:51forward thinking and we want to do all

11:09:52those things and I just wonder how to

11:09:54communicate that to others

11:09:56>> effectively. Okay. Well, I want us to

11:09:58move on because we have still a lot to

11:10:00get done. But let's bring it back

11:10:03>> um

11:10:04>> city manager

11:10:05>> to our agenda next week which already

11:10:07has two items that we are also already

11:10:09bringing back next time.

11:10:11>> So that meeting is getting longer and

11:10:13longer and so if you're going to be here

11:10:16on that day

11:10:16>> and we can do a special meeting.

11:10:18>> Yeah, even better. We love special

11:10:20meetings.

11:10:21>> We could do that.

11:10:22>> I'm just saying make sure that we have

11:10:24what you need there. I would I want it

11:10:25on there. Or else we're going to sit

11:10:27here and talk about it, which I don't

11:10:28want to do.

11:10:28>> We want it on there. I'm saying just

11:10:30remember we've got uh you have we had to

11:10:32move two things also off this agenda on

11:10:34>> That's all I'm saying.

11:10:35>> Right. Okay. I see what you're saying.

11:10:36Now we're piling it on, but we could do

11:10:38a special just to get everything done.

11:10:40>> But I think we're going to get there cuz

11:10:41it's it's not we're not that far off.

11:10:43But you're going to fine-tune it, the

11:10:44two of you, and then you'll [laughter]

11:10:45present it to us and we'll be ready to

11:10:47bed. That's what's happening. I think

11:10:50Okay. Great job. Great job. Okay. Thanks

11:10:53so much. All right. Go home. Go to bed.

11:10:55We're going to have you in bed by 10:00.

11:10:57>> Um, before you close this out, I just

11:10:59wanted to note that we did receive uh

11:11:01one written comment in favor of the

11:11:02item.

11:11:03>> We did?

11:11:03>> Yes.

11:11:04>> Okay. I'm so sorry.

11:11:05>> No, that's okay. No, no one registered

11:11:06to speak, but we did receive a comment.

11:11:08>> All right. Good job, Lance.

11:11:09>> Sorry, just to uh interject, Lance for

11:11:11the Do you need to take a vote on that

11:11:12at all? Was it It wasn't proposed for

11:11:15continuing it till next.

11:11:16>> Okay, continue.

11:11:17>> Good job. You You did a really really

11:11:20good job.

11:11:20>> She did it all.

11:11:21>> I'm impressed. Okay, bye you guys. Okay,

11:11:26we are moving on. Madame clerk, we're

11:11:28where where are we at?

11:11:30>> Uh D2 through D4, I think.

11:11:36>> Okay. Yeah, perfect. So, we're opening

11:11:39up D2, D3, and D4 together.

11:11:48>> I don't know what What did I do with

11:11:50this? All right, madam clerk, do you

11:11:52have any public comment on this item?

11:11:53>> Uh, there's no public comment. Uh, did

11:11:55you want to open the public hearing for

11:11:56these?

11:11:57>> Oh, yes. Sorry. No.

11:11:58>> We will now open the public hearing.

11:12:00Perfect.

11:12:00>> Um, has has proper notice been given and

11:12:04any correspondence received?

11:12:05>> Uh, proper notice was given and there's

11:12:07no correspondence.

11:12:08>> You made it back.

11:12:10>> How was your vacay?

11:12:11>> It was It was wonderful. Thank you.

11:12:13>> Was it good? Were you so happy you went?

11:12:14>> I am.

11:12:16>> That's awesome. Now you're so bummed

11:12:18you're back.

11:12:19All right, we'll take it away. Mike,

11:12:21>> just just real quick if the if Jonathan

11:12:24Chipman Yeah, we'll read in the title.

11:12:26>> Where is my

11:12:28the

11:12:31bill number 7346, case number LDC260019,

11:12:37ordinance to amend title 18, chapter

11:12:4018.02 of the Reno Municipal Code,

11:12:42entitled zoning reszoning an

11:12:44approximately 7.6.78 6.78 acre site

11:12:49consisting of two parcels located at the

11:12:51northern terminus of Sutro Street

11:12:52approximately 660 feet north of Seli

11:12:55Drive south of US Highway 395 from

11:12:58single family residential three units

11:13:00per acre to mixeduse suburban together

11:13:02with matters which pertain to or are

11:13:04necessarily connected therewith.

11:13:18Okay. Motion

11:13:21or do you have any questions? No,

11:13:25>> this is W four.

11:13:28Miss Eert,

11:13:31>> I was wondering if she was jumping on.

11:13:35>> No, no, no questions.

11:13:37>> Okay, go ahead. Will you please give us

11:13:39a motion?

11:13:47I'm sorry. You're asking me to do the M

11:13:51motion.

11:13:52>> It's um your word.

11:13:55>> I have the motion. If you

11:13:57>> I I didn't know if there was going to be

11:13:58any other like presentation or questions

11:14:01or anything like that.

11:14:04>> I'm I'm happy for the record, Mikey,

11:14:06county maners. I'm happy to give a a

11:14:08brief presentation if you'd like one,

11:14:10but I know everybody's had a long day.

11:14:12>> Yeah, if you could just go over briefly.

11:14:14I know it's super long, but if we could

11:14:16just show the map real quick, talk about

11:14:19what they want to do. I know that there

11:14:20was some people that are um

11:14:24there's been some comment that people

11:14:26are um unhappy with the proposed

11:14:29changes. So, I just like to be able to

11:14:30ask a couple questions about it, too.

11:14:33>> Sure. So once again for the record,

11:14:35Mikey, planning manager uh with

11:14:37development services. Uh the site is

11:14:39consists of 6.78 acres. It's uh two

11:14:43parcels located at the northern terminus

11:14:45of Suture Street. Uh the request is for

11:14:47a master plan amendment from single

11:14:49family neighborhood to suburban mixed

11:14:50use along with a zoning map amendment

11:14:53from single family three units per acre

11:14:55to uh suburban mixed use or excuse me

11:14:58mixeduse suburban. and that would

11:15:00include a regional tier amendment from

11:15:02tier 2 to tier one. Um, essentially this

11:15:04is the exact same request as the

11:15:06Clearacre Commons project that you heard

11:15:08a couple of months ago, which is located

11:15:10directly east across the freeway.

11:15:15Um, the parcel that you see highlighted

11:15:18is the southern parcel that's included

11:15:20is actually developed with the Four

11:15:21Square Church that was constructed in

11:15:231987. Um, as you can see there, Sutro

11:15:26Street originally was planned to extend

11:15:29and go under the freeway. Um, when the

11:15:31NDOT modified the freeway plans, that is

11:15:34no longer going to happen. There's

11:15:35actually a sound wall there now. So, the

11:15:37applicant anticipates requesting an

11:15:39abandonment in the future of that excess

11:15:41rideway that bisects the parcels

11:15:43currently.

11:15:45Um, in terms of compatibility, it's it's

11:15:47really a mix of uses. The Sun uh Villa

11:15:51Mobile Home Park is directly to the

11:15:52west. To the south, there's a mix of

11:15:54multifamily, light industrial, and

11:15:56commercial. Um, when we looked at this

11:15:58for mixeduse suburban, we felt it was

11:16:00appropriate given that it's within

11:16:01walking distance to neighborhood

11:16:03services and transit, as well as his

11:16:05proximity to UNR employment centers and

11:16:07the freeway.

11:16:09Um, this gives an overview of the master

11:16:13plan amendment request. As you can see,

11:16:15suburban mixed use exists to the south.

11:16:17Um, and it is supported by uh the

11:16:19policies that are included on this

11:16:21slide.

11:16:23uh the zoning map amendment as you can

11:16:25see um the recently approved Clearacre

11:16:28Commons project directly on the other

11:16:30side of the freeway. Um

11:16:33I think it is is noteworthy that the

11:16:35size of the site itself really limits uh

11:16:38future development in terms of the scale

11:16:40of any future project but any

11:16:42nonresidential project will have a

11:16:44discretionary review uh for at a minimum

11:16:47for residential agencies standards. So

11:16:49that would go through a site plan review

11:16:50process at a minimum.

11:16:54There's a comparison of development

11:16:55standards between SF3 and MS.

11:17:01Staff can make all the findings. The

11:17:03planning commission recommended

11:17:04unanimous approval of the project and

11:17:06I'm happy to answer any questions that

11:17:08you might have.

11:17:09>> Okay. Thank you so much, Councilwoman

11:17:12Megan.

11:17:14>> Yeah. Great. And I just want to ask a

11:17:16couple questions. Not because I haven't

11:17:19read the paperwork or had a meeting with

11:17:20you specifically about this, but just to

11:17:23get on the record, has there been any

11:17:25plans currently submitted for this um

11:17:28parcel if this um zone change goes

11:17:31through?

11:17:32>> No, currently the the applicant has not

11:17:34and the applicant is here may be able to

11:17:36speak more to this. Um they indicated in

11:17:38the materials that were submitted that

11:17:40they may be looking at an expansion of

11:17:42the church, potentially the addition of

11:17:44a daycare or school. Um, but nothing

11:17:46formal has been submitted to the city to

11:17:48date.

11:17:50>> Okay. Has there been any requests to

11:17:54abandon that last little strip of um

11:17:58sutro there to potentially um include

11:18:02into those parcels?

11:18:04>> The applicant has indicated that would

11:18:06be their intent if this uh if these

11:18:08changes are granted. Um I essentially

11:18:11it's my understanding that they are

11:18:13waiting to see if this is approved

11:18:15before they would pursue the abandonment

11:18:16request.

11:18:19>> Okay. And this area

11:18:21>> I have to

11:18:22>> with the change to um suburban mixuse

11:18:26could industrial go into this area.

11:18:28>> Yeah. Next

11:18:28>> there are industrial uses that would be

11:18:30permitted. However, as I mentioned in my

11:18:32presentation, the site is is essentially

11:18:35less than 2 acres left of developable

11:18:37area. So, in terms of, you know,

11:18:39warehousing and distribution, that sort

11:18:41of thing, the site would not support

11:18:42that use. It's just simply not large

11:18:44enough. Um, in terms of commercial uses,

11:18:47um, even though the site's right along

11:18:48the freeway, it's not visible from the

11:18:50freeway due to that soundwall. So, it's

11:18:52really not an appealing commercial site.

11:18:55Um, I think realistically, as the

11:18:57applicant has indicated, it would be an

11:18:59expansion of the church and potentially

11:19:00some multifamily uses would be the

11:19:02highest and best use. Um, but regard but

11:19:05regardless of what goes in the future,

11:19:06anything non-residential would have a

11:19:08discretionary review associated with it.

11:19:12>> Great. Thank you for answering those

11:19:13questions. I just want people to know

11:19:15that that that those are considerations

11:19:18in things that we've discussed and

11:19:20reviewed and that there is a process

11:19:22going forward if there is to be drastic

11:19:25changes uh to uh what's developed there.

11:19:28So, thank you very much. Um, I don't

11:19:30have any further questions if anyone

11:19:32else does.

11:19:33>> No.

11:19:35>> Nope. Go ahead. Give us a motion.

11:19:38>> Okay. Can I get on the screen? Yeah. Uh,

11:19:41okay. Am I just picking one or do we do

11:19:45we do all three here? I'm sorry.

11:19:47>> Oh, we do need three different motions.

11:19:49>> Okay. Um,

11:19:50>> open them all up.

11:19:53>> Yeah. Um Oops. Shoot. Hold on. Um,

11:19:57council member the matter of or G2

11:20:00general item in the matter of case

11:20:02number LDC26-000019

11:20:06based on uh or based upon compliance

11:20:10with acceptable findings. I move to

11:20:12uphold the recommendations of the

11:20:13planning commission.

11:20:14>> Second

11:20:15>> um on item D3 master plan amendment.

11:20:18>> These are these are three separate

11:20:20motions. Okay. We'll go through each

11:20:21one. Okay. So I have a motion and a

11:20:23second. All those in favor say I. I.

11:20:25Those opposed. Motion carries. Okay,

11:20:27back at you.

11:20:28>> D3.

11:20:29>> Uh um Councilwoman Eert, go ahead.

11:20:31>> Great. Um D3, master plan amendment. I

11:20:35move to uphold the planning commission's

11:20:37recommendation and initiate a regional

11:20:40land designation tier change subject to

11:20:42master plan conformance review and

11:20:45associated regional land designation

11:20:47tier amendment by the Truckucky Meadows

11:20:49Regional Planning Governing Board. Okay.

11:20:50with the master plan amendment

11:20:52contingent upon approval of the tier

11:20:55change.

11:20:56>> Second.

11:20:56>> Okay, I've got a motion and a second.

11:20:58All those in favor say I. I.

11:21:00>> All those opposed. Motion carries

11:21:02unanimously. Okay, back at you,

11:21:04Councilwoman Eert.

11:21:07>> Okay, one second. I just lost it. Hold

11:21:10on. Um,

11:21:13okay. D4.

11:21:17Hold on. I don't know why my screen has

11:21:19changed. Okay, here um I'm zoning map

11:21:24amendment. I move to hold the

11:21:26recommendation of the planning

11:21:28commission and refer to bill number 7346

11:21:35>> for a second reading and adoption.

11:21:38>> Second.

11:21:38>> All right, I have a motion and a second.

11:21:40All those in favor say I.

11:21:42>> All those opposed. Motion carries

11:21:44unanimously. Okay, thank you so much.

11:21:46Okay, madame clerk, we are now going to

11:21:49head into item E1 uh through E4. Do you

11:21:52have any public comment on this item?

11:21:55>> There is none.

11:21:56>> Okay. I need to make a disclosure at

11:21:58this time. Madame clerk, fellow city

11:22:00council members, um on item E one

11:22:04through four, Josh Hicks, an attorney

11:22:05from McDonald Toronto, um is

11:22:08representing

11:22:10um this this applicant. In my private

11:22:14life, I have retained Adam Hosmer

11:22:16Henner, a partner at McDonald Corano, on

11:22:18a civil matter unrelated to item E4.

11:22:21Um, and Mr. Hicks, I have sought

11:22:23guidance from the city attorney's office

11:22:25and have been advised that I may have a

11:22:28commitment in a private capa capacity to

11:22:30the interest of McDonald Coronado person

11:22:32to NRS281A.065.

11:22:37That said, this item has nothing to do

11:22:39with my civil case. Uh to the best of my

11:22:42knowledge, any action I take today on

11:22:44this item will not have any impact on me

11:22:47or McDonald Corano. I will be

11:22:50participating in this item. Madame

11:22:52clerk, please accept this disclosure um

11:22:55and place it on the record for this

11:22:57meeting.

11:22:57>> Thank you.

11:22:58>> Thank you. And my apologies. We don't

11:23:00have anyone registered to speak, but we

11:23:01did receive three comments. Two in favor

11:23:03and one in opposition.

11:23:04>> Okay. Thank you so much. I'm going to

11:23:06send it to you.

11:23:07>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. And Mr. Taylor,

11:23:09may I ask, can you put up the res uh the

11:23:11motions for each of the items? And then

11:23:14uh we'll I and the reason why I say is

11:23:17because I I don't require a presentation

11:23:19if unless my colleagues require one. And

11:23:21then I'll ask the city attorney to read

11:23:23what is appropriate for each one.

11:23:26>> Mhm.

11:23:27>> Because we've opened them all together,

11:23:29E1 through 4. I assume the ordinance and

11:23:32directions will need readings.

11:23:34>> Yes.

11:23:36E2 is bill number 7347, an ordinance

11:23:39creating the city of Reno, Nevada 2026

11:23:41special assessment district number one,

11:23:44ordering a sanitary sewer project, storm

11:23:46sewer project, and water project within

11:23:48the city of Reno, Nevada, and providing

11:23:50other matters related thereto related to

11:23:52the district for the project, which

11:23:54includes approximately 66.66 acres

11:23:57located within the city of Reno, located

11:23:59in South Reno along the north side of

11:24:01South Meadows Parkway and west of

11:24:03Veterans Parkway.

11:24:06E3

11:24:07bill number 7348, an ordinance

11:24:09concerning the city of Reno, Nevada,

11:24:112026 special assessment district number

11:24:14one and assessing the cost of local

11:24:16improvements

11:24:17against the accessible property

11:24:19benefited by the local improvements and

11:24:21providing other matters related there

11:24:23too related to the district for the

11:24:24project which includes approximately

11:24:2666.66 66 acres located within the city

11:24:28of Reno, located in South Reno along the

11:24:31north side of South Meadows Parkway and

11:24:33west of Veterans Parkway.

11:24:35Bill number 7349, an ordinance

11:24:37authorizing the issuance and sale by the

11:24:39city of Reno of its 2026 special

11:24:42assessment district number one local

11:24:44improvement bonds series 2026 in

11:24:46aggregate principal amount of not to

11:24:48exceed $9,515,000.

11:24:51approving the form of certain documents

11:24:53with respect to such bonds, ratifying

11:24:55action taken by the city officers toward

11:24:58the issuance of such bonds and providing

11:25:00other matters related there too.

11:25:02>> Thank you so much to the city attorney's

11:25:03office for those um ordinance

11:25:05introductions on item E1. Unless anyone

11:25:08requires um a presentation of any kind,

11:25:10I'm prepared. Okay. I'll move to adopt

11:25:13the resolution approving a development

11:25:14and financing agreement and owner

11:25:16agreements for the district between the

11:25:17city and the developer on E1. Second.

11:25:20>> Second. Oh, [laughter] all those in

11:25:22favor say I. I.

11:25:23>> All those opposed.

11:25:24>> Motion carries unanimously.

11:25:26>> On item E2, I'll move to um refer for a

11:25:31second reading. Uh I'm sorry. Move to

11:25:33approve the first reading of the

11:25:34creation ordinance.

11:25:36>> All right, I have a motion.

11:25:37>> Second.

11:25:37>> Second. All those in favor say I. I.

11:25:39>> All those opposed.

11:25:40>> I. Motion carries.

11:25:41>> No.

11:25:43>> Sorry, I didn't I wasn't fast enough on

11:25:45the last one. I was a no on the last

11:25:46one, too.

11:25:48>> Thank you. I'll correct the record. I

11:25:50item E3 is I move to approve the first

11:25:52reading of the assessment ordinance.

11:25:53>> Second.

11:25:54>> I have a motion and a second. All those

11:25:57in favor say I.

11:25:58>> All those opposed.

11:26:00>> Motion carries.

11:26:03>> Item E4. I move to approve the first

11:26:05reading of the bond ordinance.

11:26:06>> Second.

11:26:07>> We have a motion and a second. All those

11:26:08in favor say I.

11:26:09>> I.

11:26:10>> I.

11:26:10>> I.

11:26:11>> Motion carries.

11:26:14Okay. Okay, Madam Clerk, just uh do me a

11:26:16favor and just make sure that your

11:26:18minutes are correct for the next

11:26:20meeting. Thank you.

11:26:20>> Yes. Okay,

11:26:23>> Madam Mayor, on item F1, which is an

11:26:25ordinate adoption, I'll move to adopt.

11:26:27>> Okay. Thank you. I have a motion and a

11:26:29second. All those in favor say I.

11:26:31>> I've got to read it in.

11:26:32>> Excuse me.

11:26:33>> Read it. Sorry.

11:26:33>> May I read it in?

11:26:34>> Go back. We're We're running [laughter]

11:26:36all over you. Sorry about that.

11:26:37>> Please do. I know we're tired, but we

11:26:39need to like do our job.

11:26:43By the way, I wanted to say we don't get

11:26:45to see you that much and um I like the

11:26:48way you're reading these. They're very

11:26:50vibey.

11:26:52>> I [laughter] think it's cool.

11:26:53>> Thanks so much. This is

11:26:55>> I think ship is the m news edition.

11:27:01>> Ordinance number 6753 case number

11:27:04LDC27-000014.

11:27:08Ordinance to amend title 18, chapter

11:27:101802 of the Reno Municipal Code entitled

11:27:12zoning, reszoning the footprint and

11:27:14location of the original Reno Exposition

11:27:16Arch from no zoning adjacent to mixeduse

11:27:19downtown Riverwalk District to NZ with

11:27:23the historic landmark overlay zoning

11:27:25district. The arch is located on Lake

11:27:27Street between 1 South Lake Street and

11:27:29one Museum Drive approximately 190 ft

11:27:31north of Mil Street and has a master

11:27:33plan use designation of downtown mixed

11:27:35use.

11:27:37>> Maybe I can make

11:27:38>> everyone this is a this is the second

11:27:40reading. I just want to remind everyone.

11:27:42Okay. Uh Councilman Der, is that you?

11:27:45>> Yeah. Okay,

11:27:46>> that was me. I was just uh offering a

11:27:48motion for approval for ordinance

11:27:51adoption.

11:27:52>> Okay, perfect.

11:27:52>> F1.

11:27:53>> Okay. Uh, I have a motion from

11:27:55Councilwoman Doris, second by Council

11:27:57Member Reese. All those in favor say I.

11:27:59All those opposed.

11:28:01>> Motion carries unanimously. Okay. Item

11:28:03G1. Any public comment on this item,

11:28:06Madam Clerk?

11:28:07>> There is none.

11:28:08>> Okay. I'm going to send it to

11:28:09Councilwoman Der.

11:28:10>> Yep. I'd like to recommend Bill Buckley

11:28:14and uh Michael Rockwell for the urban

11:28:17forestry commission.

11:28:18>> Second.

11:28:18>> I have a motion and a second. All those

11:28:20in favor say I.

11:28:21>> I. All those opposed. Motion carries

11:28:23unanimously. All right, back at you

11:28:25again. Council Dur, historical resources

11:28:28>> for G2 for Historic Resources

11:28:30Commission. Like to recommend Brett

11:28:33Banks.

11:28:34>> All right, I have a motion and a second.

11:28:36All those in favor say I. All those

11:28:38opposed. Motion carries unanimously.

11:28:41Item G3, sending it to Councilwoman

11:28:44Anderson for

11:28:46>> That's me, Madam Mayor.

11:28:48>> Yes.

11:28:48>> Go ahead. Um, Miss Sierra Scott will be

11:28:52reappointed and we would like the

11:28:54architect designer position. Um, we're

11:28:58appointing Danielle Dolan. And by we, I

11:29:00mean the arts and culture board.

11:29:02>> Okay, [laughter] I have a motion and a

11:29:04second. All those in favor say I. I. All

11:29:06those opposed.

11:29:07>> Motion carries unanimously. Okay, good

11:29:10job. Uh, council comments, item H1. Any

11:29:13council comments,

11:29:14>> Madame Mayor?

11:29:15>> Go ahead.

11:29:16>> Yep. Um, earlier today I requested that

11:29:19the city consider preparing a resolution

11:29:22for us to send to the Wo County School

11:29:25Board to recommend that they um move

11:29:30forward with implementing the

11:29:32legislaturator's

11:29:33new law to install shade structures,

11:29:36trees, and heat mitigation.

11:29:40as well as I'd like to add to that that

11:29:43they install playgrounds and pedestrian

11:29:46safety activities all as part of either

11:29:49building new buildings or remodeling old

11:29:52buildings, old schools.

11:29:55And so if we could get that on the

11:29:57agenda, that would be great.

11:29:58>> Okay, that's great. And then

11:30:02um

11:30:04see manager Santoyo.

11:30:06Uh

11:30:06>> yes, we have

11:30:07>> special activities permit and it was the

11:30:10um background checks.

11:30:11>> The background checks.

11:30:12>> Business license.

11:30:13>> Yes. And then council member Der's uh

11:30:14current request. I've got that.

11:30:16>> Perfect. Anyone else?

11:30:18>> No.

11:30:19>> No.

11:30:20>> That's just comments, correct?

11:30:22>> Pardon?

11:30:23>> I said this is just ending comments,

11:30:25correct?

11:30:26>> Yes.

11:30:27>> You want to

11:30:27>> Okay. I just wanted to make sure

11:30:28everyone was aware I was on the entire

11:30:30meeting. I know that there's been some

11:30:32confusion, so just wanted to make sure

11:30:35that my colleagues are aware that I was

11:30:38on the meeting. Um, even if you can't

11:30:40see me, I am on the meeting. Thank you.

11:30:44>> Okay. Um, Madame Clerk, do you have any

11:30:47closing public comment?

11:30:49>> Um, we do have some people on Zoom.

11:30:53Okay.

11:30:53>> Uh, Daniel Jenkins via Zoom.

11:30:55>> All right.

11:31:02Daniel,

11:31:08>> I don't think they're there. Okay, next.

11:31:10>> Okay, we'll come we'll go back to him.

11:31:12Um, I think Sean Sullivan as well.

11:31:21>> Hey there, Sean Sullivan again. I'll

11:31:23keep it short. Uh, I know it's getting

11:31:25late. I trust you all read my comment

11:31:27and uh understand it a little better

11:31:29after today. I don't consider this

11:31:31discussion over. Um there was one

11:31:34striking theme to me today and it was

11:31:36that all the commenters called not all

11:31:38of them but all the commenters that were

11:31:39com calling out uh the narrative control

11:31:42with all the hard registering stories

11:31:43and uh long presentations and whatnot uh

11:31:47while actively dismissing all

11:31:50accusations of abuse without really any

11:31:52evidence. I mean, I come from

11:31:54engineering where there's KPIs and uh

11:31:57you got to prove it with numbers and uh

11:32:01cuz uh yeah, the heart-wrenching stories

11:32:03have to be attached to a qualitative uh

11:32:06analysis. Uh the founding fathers

11:32:08included the fourth amendment because

11:32:09they had watched England use every arm

11:32:12of government against them. With modern

11:32:14tech, cellular connected cameras on

11:32:17cars, for example, will eventually and

11:32:19inevitably be compromised by foreign

11:32:21governments. So uh I really hope uh you

11:32:24all understand how serious the the uh

11:32:27cyber security risk is. Thank you. Have

11:32:30a good evening.

11:32:30>> Thanks so much.

11:32:33>> We will try Daniel one more time.

11:32:35>> Okay.

11:32:39>> Daniel, are you there?

11:32:45>> All right. He's unmuted, but he might

11:32:47just be having difficulty. So

11:32:49>> Okay. Um, and then I do see council

11:32:51member Eert's hand raised, so I wasn't

11:32:53sure if she wanted to make public

11:32:54comment or if that was an accident.

11:32:56>> Counciloman Eert.

11:32:57>> Oh, just hadn't brought my hand down

11:32:59yet. Sorry about that.

11:33:00>> No worries. Just wanted to check.

11:33:01>> And I'm going to ask for council for an

11:33:02adjournment.

11:33:03>> Oh, sorry. We don't have anyone else

11:33:05registered to speak, but for the record,

11:33:07we did receive 74 comments after 4 p.m.

11:33:10yesterday. Uh, which will be distributed

11:33:12and made available on the public meeting

11:33:13portal.

11:33:14>> Okay. Thank you so much. All right. Um,

11:33:16Vice Mayor, go ahead.

11:33:17>> Move to adjurnn. Second. I have a motion

11:33:19and a second. All those in favor say I.

11:33:21I.

11:33:22>> All those post.

11:33:23>> Motion carries unanimously.