2026-10-21 - Budget Committee
Summary
Based on uploaded (human-made) captions; minor errors are possible. Speakers are not labeled and staff names are garbled, so most speakers are identified by role or left unnamed. The recording is only about 10 minutes and starts mid-discussion, so it is likely a clip or the tail of a longer Budget Committee meeting; the opening presentation and any votes are not in it.
Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):
| Topic | Minutes | Share |
|---|---|---|
| 2027 Capital Improvement Budget | 2 | 20% |
| State Infrastructure Funding Advocacy | 8 | 80% |
- Wednesday, October 21, 2026.
- The clip opens during Public Works' answers on the capital budget and runs to 10:13, where the chair appears to thank the presenters and move on.
- No votes were taken in the recording.
2027 Capital Improvement Budget
0:00-2:20
- Staff answered a question on copper wire theft: replacing stolen wire or a light pole is not an eligible capitalized construction expense; the capital funds go to construction projects.
- Asked what changed from the prior plan, staff said the biggest change is West 7th Street. There is not adequate funding for the corridor, so its timeline is uncertain; staff expect it to be a project of roughly 100 million dollars with the state transportation department likely in the driver's seat, and the city has only a small part of the money so far.
- A councilmember asked for a written follow-up listing what changed from the previous plan.
State Infrastructure Funding Advocacy
2:20-10:13
- A councilmember asked how the city is pressing the state for more Local Government Aid and street money, noting Public Works carries the largest budget and keeps budgeting for weather damage and potholes.
- Staff said the city brings a list of projects to the state each year; the Kellogg bridge reconstruction and Church Street work have drawn tens of millions of dollars, and the legislature recently gave 25 million dollars for a street reconstruction from University down toward a river-area stretch (the captions are garbled). Large projects like these cannot be delivered without state bonding or a special appropriation.
- The department director said a new intergovernmental relations lead held a working session with senior leadership, including on copper wire theft and street lights, since the city has no long-term funding source and legislative proposals can take a couple of years to develop.
- Councilmember Kim noted the Senate capital investment committee will have a new chair, since Senator Pappas (per the captions) was instrumental in bringing road reconstruction money to the city, and called that important for the West 7th corridor projects.
- Another speaker added that engineering and consulting-engineer trade groups lobby alongside cities, and that the state infrastructure report card shows no improvement over four years; infrastructure funding is a problem nationwide, partly because of federal funding.
- Councilmembers offered to support the advocacy work, especially with the Saint Paul delegation and incoming legislators, and mentioned an upcoming Kellogg opening ceremony.
- The meeting closed with thanks to the presenters; the chair appears to say the committee was running ahead of time (the captions are unclear who spoke).
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Transcript
00:00be capitalize, double
00:01construction expenditures and
00:02just to address the question
00:04copper wire theft, that that's
00:04not appropriate. Capitalize
00:10construction expense. So it
00:11goes towards the project sort
00:12of thing. But but we can I
00:14identify that so lighting
00:15improvements doesn't.
00:17>> Wouldn't include copper
00:19wire theft like replacing a
00:20light pole because of that
00:21are.
00:24>> Correct. We're using it on
00:25construction projects.
00:30>> And then time, I'm sure any
00:31any changes that noteworthy
00:33for us from previous plan. I
00:36think Madam Chair Council
00:38president, I think the biggest
00:39change is probably West 7th
00:41Street.
00:41>> And there isn't a. It.
00:45Sometimes it's dangerous to
00:46pinpoint exactly what the
00:47timeline us. Because you know,
00:50there's so many moving parts.
00:51There isn't adequate funding
00:52for that corridor. And so I
00:55kind of look at it and think
00:56it's that's the range, you
00:57know, and we're in the process
00:59now. If we go back and 10
01:01minutes in our discussion here
01:03and and talk about timeline,
01:06that's a consideration to just
01:07had a meeting. I think Monday
01:08about how do we deliver
01:09improvements on 7th Street?
01:11It's a corridor that will have
01:12really have impacts the way
01:15that the project is delivered
01:16is really going matter.
01:20There's you know, how is it
01:22delivered and that sort of
01:23thing that comes into play and
01:24we do have we have pittance of
01:25the money right now. We're
01:28reasonably expecting we're
01:28going to get a lot of money
01:29for that. But you know, we
01:31don't have it all yet. So.
01:36Some of those over here
01:37projects they necessarily are
01:38a little bit squishy just
01:39because we don't know whether
01:40we're going to have all the
01:40funds for 7 streets, but that
01:43is probably the single biggest
01:44because even though I dot will
01:47probably be. And the driver
01:47seat for that projects. It
01:51will be significant.
01:52100 million dollars. Well, us.
02:00>> I think it would be really
02:01helpful to like I know that
02:03will conduct its kind of as we
02:04go along. But it's always nice
02:06to know just like what
02:07changed. Maybe coin that out
02:07specifically could be helpful.
02:09So as a fllow-up, if there's
02:11any other changes that you
02:12want to know for us, if you
02:13could be able to provide about
02:14cranes. Council change. thank
02:20you so much. I have a question
02:23particularly around that
02:26budgetary, but more so than
02:27state you approach just
02:30knowing that we are the
02:32capital city and, you know our
02:33roads, are you the last days?
02:34You know?
02:37>> On even more base, I would
02:37say probably in terms of no
02:40thank really serving the
02:44entire state and I'm just
02:45curious to know, I know we're
02:47going to have a belief in
02:47January and December. The IG
02:51our director giving I
02:52legislative agenda. But had
02:55where have you seen maybe
02:55might be a question for the
02:56director as well. We're at the
02:58scenes like public works,
03:02really taking active approach.
03:03You know, for the request for
03:06more LGA and like has that
03:09like has there ever been like
03:10a bill or even a committee
03:13that council members pie to be
03:13made aware of? Because I do
03:16think know, one of the things
03:18that we as we go into the
03:19budget process public works
03:20has like the largest expense
03:22in the largest budget. And it
03:26seems like every year are
03:27trying to budget for what we
03:28know is going come with our
03:32weather potholes and I seasons
03:33and as with like to know, you
03:36know, what is that ask looking
03:39like to the to the state level
03:40and just how are weighing in
03:41on the policy say?
03:44>> So I'll start.
03:48>> And what I'll offer is that
03:50every year we have a list of
03:53projects where we're seeking
03:55something from the state
03:56Kellogg. Church Street is one
03:57example where we've got tens
03:58of millions of dollars from
03:59the state.
03:59>> To reconstruct this bridge,
04:03we've been asking for money to
04:05reconstruct a part of Kellogg
04:05that looks like a street food
04:07as a bridge down here, Jason,
04:08to the science museum.
04:12>> And as you know, that's
04:13that's tens of millions of
04:13dollars.
04:16>> can't deliver things like
04:18that without bond here. Some
04:21special appropriation from
04:22from the legislature. So I
04:24think that's probably that.
04:25And that's that's every year.
04:27That's probably the most clear
04:27cut for me where we're
04:28pushing. We're bonding
04:30tourism. And, you know, just
04:31that there's a whole lot of of
04:33that that trying to sell those
04:35things. Well, that would offer
04:37Actually. We did get
04:4225 million dollars from the
04:43legislature and actually.
04:45Speaker Hartman one. make sure
04:48that this happened that we got
04:5125 million dollars to
04:51reconstruct or a street. From
04:54university down to jobs so.
04:58There's one example where she
04:58was an absolute champion there
04:60actually for the city to get
05:00that it was like, what do you
05:01need? So which is not a
05:04question custom hearing. So
05:07don't know if you have
05:07anything else offer. Director.
05:10>> And thank you, Madam Chair.
05:12I can remember very much
05:14appreciate the question. Don't
05:15have a perfect answer.
05:19Obviously, answer well about
05:20body and insertions, some
05:21specific projects, but we did
05:23have a working session with
05:25our new
05:26intergovernmental relations
05:27lead and where she met with a
05:29bunch of our senior leadership
05:31team. So we're trying to form
05:32some of these ideas of how how
05:33can we look at things
05:35differently? talk a lot about
05:37copper wire, theft and street
05:38lights. And so even looking at
05:41that, is there some way that
05:42the state can help us in that
05:43space? Because we know it's a
05:44challenge is the city and we
05:45don't have a god long-term
05:48funding source. So having
05:51direct conversations with
05:52legislative proposals that
05:53sometimes takes a couple of
05:54years to get fully dvelop. So
05:56I'm glad we're starting those
05:57conversations now. I'm glad to
05:58hear you guys are gonna have
05:58those conversations as well.
06:00But just know that we're
06:01trying to take a little more
06:02proactive approach with some
06:03of that as we look towards
06:06public works investment for
06:07city of Temple. Thank
06:11>> I know I saw a counselor
06:14Kim's hand and I will
06:16councilmember So council Okay.
06:20Count number thinks chair. I
06:21just wanted to add to the
06:22question that comes we
06:26>> the city's role in
06:30advocating for infrastructure
06:31particularly our streets at
06:32the state legislature. We do
06:35have the Capital Investment
06:36Committee will be having a
06:38new. There will be a new chair
06:40of that at the Senate level
06:41because Senator Pappas share
06:42that for such a time. And she
06:44was really instrumental in
06:45getting a lot also in getting
06:46a lot of those investments
06:46into our city. Our road
06:50reconstruction. And that will
06:51be really important. Moving
06:52forward because we still have,
06:54as you can see, a lot of
06:55really big projects,
06:55especially the West, 7th
07:00corridor projects.
07:02>> Also just add that there
07:02are ways that, you know.
07:05>> Public works mentioned we
07:06have our legislative agenda
07:06and that they partner with
07:08multiple levels of government.
07:09We also have. The
07:13organization. I'm part of the
07:14American Society of Civil
07:17Engineers also the American
07:18Council Engineering Companies
07:19also have a lot of lobbying
07:19effort and they partner with
07:22municipality and counties and
07:23states and things like that.
07:26And I'll just say one more
07:27thing every year we do release
07:30the state does release an
07:30infrastructure report card.
07:34Which we see right now. And
07:36that is not an improvement
07:37from what we got 4 years ago.
07:39It is we are also graded
07:41nationwide. So I think we
07:42probably also have to see and
07:46I say that just to also add
07:48that this is this is not an
07:51issue that specific to
07:51Minnesota. We do have our own
07:52challenges here. But
07:56>> there are challenges that
07:57that states are facing across
07:58the country in terms of
07:59getting additional funding for
08:00their infrastructure. And a
08:01lot of that's from because of
08:02the federal government. But I
08:05do agree that the more that we
08:07can that we can partner
08:08together and especially with
08:09our Saint Paul delegation,
08:11that's going to be important
08:13in making sure that customer
08:15point that we're getting the
08:15funding we need direct into to
08:16our city. And I think just
08:23like overall that there's any
08:23follow-ups to those who have
08:24related to the work, too.
08:27>> As her and you know, the
08:28council I can go to office to
08:30pick certain things. Certain
08:31questions that we should also
08:32be asking. Overall, I think
08:35the support and continued
08:36support and what we're doing
08:37around advocacy. I can't say
08:38enough how often sometimes we
08:42aren't as counlmember
08:44sometimes tapped into that
08:45work, too. So if there's
08:46definitely anything that we
08:47should be thinking about
08:47strategically on some of the
08:50projects and being a partner
08:51and advocate for you all to as
08:52we interact with our state and
08:56congressional and local
08:57leaders, especially with this
08:58transition and new folks
08:59coming in to represent our Don
09:01delegation. But also just in
09:02general just think about the
09:09investment goal of investments
09:10across the country always
09:11competing for are bigger
09:13projects and the more that we
09:14can secure funding for we
09:15could have things like Kellogg
09:19come together rather You know,
09:20quickly is subjective. But
09:22still looking forward to being
09:23at the opening ceremony of the
09:31this weekend.
09:31>> But I think to some of
09:34these projects that we haven't
09:35been working on that are
09:36really testaments to the
09:37multiple.
09:38>> Partnerships that it takes
09:39to make some of these happen.
09:41If we can be supportive
09:42anyway, snow. And thank you,
09:50Mr. Peters and thank you.
09:51Director Fiber and the public
09:52were seen for all the We know
09:52that these plans take a lot of
09:56effort and a lot consideration
09:57and just a lot of
09:59collaboration that we don't
10:01get to see. Always just
10:02embedded in those slides and
10:03show the ending product of
10:04what I'm sure was a robust
10:04process. Happened to give us
10:09few minutes back again. I
10:10mean, this is like 2 for 2 for
10:11the Budget Committee on could
10:12be some credit here.
10:13>> With that trend.