2026-10-21 - Budget Committee

Summary

Based on uploaded (human-made) captions; minor errors are possible. Speakers are not labeled and staff names are garbled, so most speakers are identified by role or left unnamed. The recording is only about 10 minutes and starts mid-discussion, so it is likely a clip or the tail of a longer Budget Committee meeting; the opening presentation and any votes are not in it.

Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):

Topic Minutes Share
2027 Capital Improvement Budget 2 20%
State Infrastructure Funding Advocacy 8 80%
  • Wednesday, October 21, 2026.
  • The clip opens during Public Works' answers on the capital budget and runs to 10:13, where the chair appears to thank the presenters and move on.
  • No votes were taken in the recording.

2027 Capital Improvement Budget

0:00-2:20

  • Staff answered a question on copper wire theft: replacing stolen wire or a light pole is not an eligible capitalized construction expense; the capital funds go to construction projects.
  • Asked what changed from the prior plan, staff said the biggest change is West 7th Street. There is not adequate funding for the corridor, so its timeline is uncertain; staff expect it to be a project of roughly 100 million dollars with the state transportation department likely in the driver's seat, and the city has only a small part of the money so far.
  • A councilmember asked for a written follow-up listing what changed from the previous plan.

State Infrastructure Funding Advocacy

2:20-10:13

  • A councilmember asked how the city is pressing the state for more Local Government Aid and street money, noting Public Works carries the largest budget and keeps budgeting for weather damage and potholes.
  • Staff said the city brings a list of projects to the state each year; the Kellogg bridge reconstruction and Church Street work have drawn tens of millions of dollars, and the legislature recently gave 25 million dollars for a street reconstruction from University down toward a river-area stretch (the captions are garbled). Large projects like these cannot be delivered without state bonding or a special appropriation.
  • The department director said a new intergovernmental relations lead held a working session with senior leadership, including on copper wire theft and street lights, since the city has no long-term funding source and legislative proposals can take a couple of years to develop.
  • Councilmember Kim noted the Senate capital investment committee will have a new chair, since Senator Pappas (per the captions) was instrumental in bringing road reconstruction money to the city, and called that important for the West 7th corridor projects.
  • Another speaker added that engineering and consulting-engineer trade groups lobby alongside cities, and that the state infrastructure report card shows no improvement over four years; infrastructure funding is a problem nationwide, partly because of federal funding.
  • Councilmembers offered to support the advocacy work, especially with the Saint Paul delegation and incoming legislators, and mentioned an upcoming Kellogg opening ceremony.
  • The meeting closed with thanks to the presenters; the chair appears to say the committee was running ahead of time (the captions are unclear who spoke).

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00:00be capitalize, double

00:01construction expenditures and

00:02just to address the question

00:04copper wire theft, that that's

00:04not appropriate. Capitalize

00:10construction expense. So it

00:11goes towards the project sort

00:12of thing. But but we can I

00:14identify that so lighting

00:15improvements doesn't.

00:17>> Wouldn't include copper

00:19wire theft like replacing a

00:20light pole because of that

00:21are.

00:24>> Correct. We're using it on

00:25construction projects.

00:30>> And then time, I'm sure any

00:31any changes that noteworthy

00:33for us from previous plan. I

00:36think Madam Chair Council

00:38president, I think the biggest

00:39change is probably West 7th

00:41Street.

00:41>> And there isn't a. It.

00:45Sometimes it's dangerous to

00:46pinpoint exactly what the

00:47timeline us. Because you know,

00:50there's so many moving parts.

00:51There isn't adequate funding

00:52for that corridor. And so I

00:55kind of look at it and think

00:56it's that's the range, you

00:57know, and we're in the process

00:59now. If we go back and 10

01:01minutes in our discussion here

01:03and and talk about timeline,

01:06that's a consideration to just

01:07had a meeting. I think Monday

01:08about how do we deliver

01:09improvements on 7th Street?

01:11It's a corridor that will have

01:12really have impacts the way

01:15that the project is delivered

01:16is really going matter.

01:20There's you know, how is it

01:22delivered and that sort of

01:23thing that comes into play and

01:24we do have we have pittance of

01:25the money right now. We're

01:28reasonably expecting we're

01:28going to get a lot of money

01:29for that. But you know, we

01:31don't have it all yet. So.

01:36Some of those over here

01:37projects they necessarily are

01:38a little bit squishy just

01:39because we don't know whether

01:40we're going to have all the

01:40funds for 7 streets, but that

01:43is probably the single biggest

01:44because even though I dot will

01:47probably be. And the driver

01:47seat for that projects. It

01:51will be significant.

01:52100 million dollars. Well, us.

02:00>> I think it would be really

02:01helpful to like I know that

02:03will conduct its kind of as we

02:04go along. But it's always nice

02:06to know just like what

02:07changed. Maybe coin that out

02:07specifically could be helpful.

02:09So as a fllow-up, if there's

02:11any other changes that you

02:12want to know for us, if you

02:13could be able to provide about

02:14cranes. Council change. thank

02:20you so much. I have a question

02:23particularly around that

02:26budgetary, but more so than

02:27state you approach just

02:30knowing that we are the

02:32capital city and, you know our

02:33roads, are you the last days?

02:34You know?

02:37>> On even more base, I would

02:37say probably in terms of no

02:40thank really serving the

02:44entire state and I'm just

02:45curious to know, I know we're

02:47going to have a belief in

02:47January and December. The IG

02:51our director giving I

02:52legislative agenda. But had

02:55where have you seen maybe

02:55might be a question for the

02:56director as well. We're at the

02:58scenes like public works,

03:02really taking active approach.

03:03You know, for the request for

03:06more LGA and like has that

03:09like has there ever been like

03:10a bill or even a committee

03:13that council members pie to be

03:13made aware of? Because I do

03:16think know, one of the things

03:18that we as we go into the

03:19budget process public works

03:20has like the largest expense

03:22in the largest budget. And it

03:26seems like every year are

03:27trying to budget for what we

03:28know is going come with our

03:32weather potholes and I seasons

03:33and as with like to know, you

03:36know, what is that ask looking

03:39like to the to the state level

03:40and just how are weighing in

03:41on the policy say?

03:44>> So I'll start.

03:48>> And what I'll offer is that

03:50every year we have a list of

03:53projects where we're seeking

03:55something from the state

03:56Kellogg. Church Street is one

03:57example where we've got tens

03:58of millions of dollars from

03:59the state.

03:59>> To reconstruct this bridge,

04:03we've been asking for money to

04:05reconstruct a part of Kellogg

04:05that looks like a street food

04:07as a bridge down here, Jason,

04:08to the science museum.

04:12>> And as you know, that's

04:13that's tens of millions of

04:13dollars.

04:16>> can't deliver things like

04:18that without bond here. Some

04:21special appropriation from

04:22from the legislature. So I

04:24think that's probably that.

04:25And that's that's every year.

04:27That's probably the most clear

04:27cut for me where we're

04:28pushing. We're bonding

04:30tourism. And, you know, just

04:31that there's a whole lot of of

04:33that that trying to sell those

04:35things. Well, that would offer

04:37Actually. We did get

04:4225 million dollars from the

04:43legislature and actually.

04:45Speaker Hartman one. make sure

04:48that this happened that we got

04:5125 million dollars to

04:51reconstruct or a street. From

04:54university down to jobs so.

04:58There's one example where she

04:58was an absolute champion there

04:60actually for the city to get

05:00that it was like, what do you

05:01need? So which is not a

05:04question custom hearing. So

05:07don't know if you have

05:07anything else offer. Director.

05:10>> And thank you, Madam Chair.

05:12I can remember very much

05:14appreciate the question. Don't

05:15have a perfect answer.

05:19Obviously, answer well about

05:20body and insertions, some

05:21specific projects, but we did

05:23have a working session with

05:25our new

05:26intergovernmental relations

05:27lead and where she met with a

05:29bunch of our senior leadership

05:31team. So we're trying to form

05:32some of these ideas of how how

05:33can we look at things

05:35differently? talk a lot about

05:37copper wire, theft and street

05:38lights. And so even looking at

05:41that, is there some way that

05:42the state can help us in that

05:43space? Because we know it's a

05:44challenge is the city and we

05:45don't have a god long-term

05:48funding source. So having

05:51direct conversations with

05:52legislative proposals that

05:53sometimes takes a couple of

05:54years to get fully dvelop. So

05:56I'm glad we're starting those

05:57conversations now. I'm glad to

05:58hear you guys are gonna have

05:58those conversations as well.

06:00But just know that we're

06:01trying to take a little more

06:02proactive approach with some

06:03of that as we look towards

06:06public works investment for

06:07city of Temple. Thank

06:11>> I know I saw a counselor

06:14Kim's hand and I will

06:16councilmember So council Okay.

06:20Count number thinks chair. I

06:21just wanted to add to the

06:22question that comes we

06:26>> the city's role in

06:30advocating for infrastructure

06:31particularly our streets at

06:32the state legislature. We do

06:35have the Capital Investment

06:36Committee will be having a

06:38new. There will be a new chair

06:40of that at the Senate level

06:41because Senator Pappas share

06:42that for such a time. And she

06:44was really instrumental in

06:45getting a lot also in getting

06:46a lot of those investments

06:46into our city. Our road

06:50reconstruction. And that will

06:51be really important. Moving

06:52forward because we still have,

06:54as you can see, a lot of

06:55really big projects,

06:55especially the West, 7th

07:00corridor projects.

07:02>> Also just add that there

07:02are ways that, you know.

07:05>> Public works mentioned we

07:06have our legislative agenda

07:06and that they partner with

07:08multiple levels of government.

07:09We also have. The

07:13organization. I'm part of the

07:14American Society of Civil

07:17Engineers also the American

07:18Council Engineering Companies

07:19also have a lot of lobbying

07:19effort and they partner with

07:22municipality and counties and

07:23states and things like that.

07:26And I'll just say one more

07:27thing every year we do release

07:30the state does release an

07:30infrastructure report card.

07:34Which we see right now. And

07:36that is not an improvement

07:37from what we got 4 years ago.

07:39It is we are also graded

07:41nationwide. So I think we

07:42probably also have to see and

07:46I say that just to also add

07:48that this is this is not an

07:51issue that specific to

07:51Minnesota. We do have our own

07:52challenges here. But

07:56>> there are challenges that

07:57that states are facing across

07:58the country in terms of

07:59getting additional funding for

08:00their infrastructure. And a

08:01lot of that's from because of

08:02the federal government. But I

08:05do agree that the more that we

08:07can that we can partner

08:08together and especially with

08:09our Saint Paul delegation,

08:11that's going to be important

08:13in making sure that customer

08:15point that we're getting the

08:15funding we need direct into to

08:16our city. And I think just

08:23like overall that there's any

08:23follow-ups to those who have

08:24related to the work, too.

08:27>> As her and you know, the

08:28council I can go to office to

08:30pick certain things. Certain

08:31questions that we should also

08:32be asking. Overall, I think

08:35the support and continued

08:36support and what we're doing

08:37around advocacy. I can't say

08:38enough how often sometimes we

08:42aren't as counlmember

08:44sometimes tapped into that

08:45work, too. So if there's

08:46definitely anything that we

08:47should be thinking about

08:47strategically on some of the

08:50projects and being a partner

08:51and advocate for you all to as

08:52we interact with our state and

08:56congressional and local

08:57leaders, especially with this

08:58transition and new folks

08:59coming in to represent our Don

09:01delegation. But also just in

09:02general just think about the

09:09investment goal of investments

09:10across the country always

09:11competing for are bigger

09:13projects and the more that we

09:14can secure funding for we

09:15could have things like Kellogg

09:19come together rather You know,

09:20quickly is subjective. But

09:22still looking forward to being

09:23at the opening ceremony of the

09:31this weekend.

09:31>> But I think to some of

09:34these projects that we haven't

09:35been working on that are

09:36really testaments to the

09:37multiple.

09:38>> Partnerships that it takes

09:39to make some of these happen.

09:41If we can be supportive

09:42anyway, snow. And thank you,

09:50Mr. Peters and thank you.

09:51Director Fiber and the public

09:52were seen for all the We know

09:52that these plans take a lot of

09:56effort and a lot consideration

09:57and just a lot of

09:59collaboration that we don't

10:01get to see. Always just

10:02embedded in those slides and

10:03show the ending product of

10:04what I'm sure was a robust

10:04process. Happened to give us

10:09few minutes back again. I

10:10mean, this is like 2 for 2 for

10:11the Budget Committee on could

10:12be some credit here.

10:13>> With that trend.