2026-10-14 - Policy Committee

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Based on uploaded (human-made) captions; minor errors are possible. The roll call and some councilmember names are garbled, so speakers outside the named councilmembers are identified by role or organization.

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Topic Minutes Share
Saint Paul Affordability Gap 21 37%
Saint Paul Housing Cost Burden 10 17%
Child Care Affordability 24 43%
Saint Paul Minimum Wage Increase Exploration 2 3%
  • Wednesday, October 14, 2026.
  • The City Council Policy Committee held an informational session on affordability, planned and coordinated by Councilmember Kim, with three outside presentations.
  • The captions say six members were present and one had an excused absence. No votes were taken.
  • The recording runs about 1 hour 5 minutes; the first seven minutes are music only and the last stretch after 1:05 is music again, and neither is counted.

Saint Paul Affordability Gap

7:44-28:52

  • Councilmember Kim framed the session around what a resident would need to earn to live in Saint Paul and said the aim was to ground the council in data and start a conversation.
  • A research director from a policy think tank covered both sides of affordability, prices and wages. A typical Ramsey County family (one full-time worker, one part-time worker, one child) needs a little over $80,000 for basic needs, the seventh highest county cost in the state. At median household earnings the family falls about $5,500 short; a household at the minimum wage with one child falls about $25,000 short, and with more children over $50,000.
  • Price pressures cited: fuel prices up about 57 percent since the start of the Iran war, rising health premiums, expected health coverage losses from Medicaid cuts, and tariffs. On wages: a weak 2025 job market, labor force participation falling in the first half of 2026, flat median real wages, and widening gaps between high and low earners and between CEO and worker pay. Union members were the exception.
  • The presenter argued city hall has few levers on prices and more on wages: easier union organizing, union incentives in city spending, sectoral bargaining, protecting immigrant workers, and raising the local minimum wage, citing California's fast-food wage as an example. These are the presenter's claims and are not verified here.
  • A councilmember asked whether the typical-family assumption is realistic and said the gap would be larger for families with more children; the presenter agreed that more children raise costs sharply.

Saint Paul Housing Cost Burden

28:52-38:22

  • An organizer with a regional housing coalition said the median rent is $1,247 for the city (from 2024 data, probably near $1,300 now), which takes an annual income of about $47,900, or roughly $24 an hour, to avoid being cost burdened.
  • Reported figures: 49 percent of Saint Paul renter households and 20 percent of homeowners are cost burdened, and about 33 percent of households earn $50,000 or less. Rents in affordable developments set at 50 to 60 percent of area median income still require roughly $23.74 to $28.44 an hour.
  • The speaker urged the council to look closely at what counts as "affordable" as more of it is built.
  • Council President Noecker asked (the captions say only "council president") whether the income figures were gross or net, and the presenter said gross.

Child Care Affordability

38:22-1:02:38

  • Three child care advocates (a center director and two parents who also work in the field) made the case for early childhood investment: most brain development happens before age 5, and quality care has strong returns.
  • Cost drivers cited: teacher pay and benefits, licensing and compliance, supplies, meals, administration, facilities and insurance. Average center cost was given as $23,452 a year versus $19,312 for University of Minnesota tuition, and the federal affordability standard would imply a family income of about $335,000 for one child in Saint Paul.
  • Workforce: early educators average about $18 to $20 an hour, many rely on public benefits, and turnover disrupts children. Seven long-standing Saint Paul centers closed last year, which the speakers said was because families cannot pay more and centers cannot pay teachers enough. They cited about $2.1 billion in annual economic losses to Minnesota.
  • The ask: councilmembers should support and testify for a universal child care system at the state level, keep educators of color and immigrants in mind, and fund higher wages without raising family costs, including raising revenue from large businesses.
  • Councilmember Johnson (named in the captions only as "Johnson") said their family pays about $500 a week for child care, more than average rent in many cases, and tied rent, child care and evictions together. Another councilmember said low child care pay and cost push women out of the workforce, and another asked about policies that would redistribute wealth from high earners.

Saint Paul Minimum Wage Increase Exploration

1:02:38-1:04:29

  • Councilmember Kim said next steps are outreach to more groups, including labor groups and families, through engagement sessions with the office.
  • Kim said there is no budget like the roughly $150,000 spent on the prior minimum wage study, so the office will follow a no-cost, people-first approach like the one used for the tree ordinance, and invited residents to reach out.

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07:13>> City Council Policy

07:14Committee to order call

07:14police. Councilmember bully

07:18here. Council president maker

07:20here Councilmember toast

07:24councilmember comment

07:25Councilmember Kym yet

07:26Councilor Yang. Councilor

07:31Johnson here i Councilmember

07:33Ewing has an excused absence,

07:34seeing 6 present.

07:35>> One absent. Wasn't used.

07:44>> bringing to government all

07:46With that, I am. So looking

07:48forward to conversation. Say

07:49thanks to all our guests for

07:50being here. Looking

07:52>> forward to continuing our

07:53conversation. I want to turn

07:54things over to Councilmember

07:54Kim, who has

07:56>> planned and coordinated

07:57this session. Yes, thank you.

07:59Because lot of credit by

08:01legislative a peaceful people

08:02this all together. It was one

08:03of his first meetings that I

08:04had with him when he started

08:06was a big policy meeting. So

08:06today we're going to talk

08:07about we're gonna overview on

08:12affordability in Saint Paul,

08:13where kind of narrowing in on

08:142 key areas. And a good from

08:16Nestor policy. The intent of

08:18us being grounded in the data

08:18and this conversation is to

08:22start the conversation with

08:24says the council and are

08:26millions of viewers at home

08:28around 40 billion sme Paul

08:30that specifically taking a

08:30look at what you would have to

08:32earn as a minimum wage to be

08:33able to live and thrive here

08:34in Saint Paul. So we're going

08:37to have 3 speakers join us.

08:38The first one is going to be

08:41from the North star policy.

08:42Worst our policy research.

08:45Sorry, nurse or policy action.

08:46Oh, my goodness. I will have

08:50the speaker introduce

08:50themselves. They're all aware

08:51of. The timing stated that

08:52about 15 to 20 minutes to get

08:55through each presentation and

08:55will kick it off with Aaron.

08:56Please introduce yourself.

08:59Thank you so Members of the

09:02council. I'm Erin Rose on the

09:03research director at NorthStar

09:06Policy Action.

09:07>> think tank dedicated to

09:07improving the lives of working

09:08Minnesota ease. I'm also a

09:12lifelong Saint Paul resident

09:14born and raised here.

09:16>> And that current Hamlin,

09:16midway resident.

09:20>> So I was told to get

09:22surveyed overview right of

09:23affordability as it.

09:25>> And just in Minnesota and

09:26Saint Paul. Do that by talking

09:31about what we might refer to

09:32as the 2 sides of the

09:32affordability coin. Which is

09:36really a race between prices

09:39and wages. So if we see prices

09:40going up, but wages going up

09:41faster, we can actually

09:42portability is improving. talk

09:46a lot about crisis in

09:49discussing affordability. We

09:50tend talk a lot less about

09:53wages. And I think doing so.

09:55We failed to grounds to in in

09:59the inequality that actually

10:01exists, which is to say that

10:02affordability is an inequality

10:04issue. And we have to

10:05understand that at its roots.

10:08So I'm going talk both sides

10:09of this. The price side and

10:12the wage side and then try to

10:13bring it together at the end.

10:16The price is the stuff that

10:17again, we talk about more. And

10:18so I don't think any of this

10:18will come a surprise. We've

10:22seen changes in inflation

10:23across the U.S. the Midwest,

10:25the Twin Cities is moved

10:26remarkably singly. Peaking in

10:302022. Around 8%. One thing

10:31that I think we often don't

10:32talk enough about is that

10:33inflation came down quite a

10:36bit in following 3 years. 23,

10:3825 then more recently we've

10:40seen an increase as the Iran

10:41war is really driven up fuel

10:44prices. In fact, I was just

10:44seeing that the consumer price

10:48indexes rose again in

10:48September to 3.6%. Well ahead

10:51of expectations. If we see in

10:57to Saint Paul and Ramsey

10:59County and the data is really

11:00much easier Ramsey. So I'm

11:01gonna talk more about Rams,

11:02even saying all that Saint

11:06Paul's obviously makes up a

11:06good portion of a Ramsey

11:07County.

11:09If w look at basic cost of

11:12living for a typical family,

11:13which the Department of

11:17Economic Development refers to

11:19as one full-time worker, one

11:21part-time worker and one

11:21child. For that family to meet

11:26their basic needs Ramsey

11:28County requires $80,000 a

11:30little bit over $80,000. That

11:32makes frenzy the 7th most

11:33expensive county in the state.

11:39So we know that that's the

11:40cost of living. And ten we

11:43can look at a bundle of goods

11:45within that cost of living

11:46right and how things have

11:47changed. So again, not gonna

11:50surprise anybody by talking

11:52about huge increases in fuel

11:53prices up about 57% since the

11:54start of the wrong more in

11:57Minnesota, Ramsey County,

12:00again, sort of in the middle

12:01of the state in terms of our

12:01average fuel price. Just below

12:04U.S. average. If we bring that

12:10out to look at what this is

12:11actually costing families. So

12:13not just what are they paying

12:13at the pump, but how those

12:14fuel prices fow through the

12:15rest of the economy in

12:18Minnesota for a family of 4

12:19with 2 drivers, year-to-date,

12:22those spent about $1000 more

12:24than they would have without

12:24the war due to those costs.

12:26And by the end of 2026, we can

12:30expect them to spend almost

12:31$1800 more because of these

12:32increased fuel prices. Another

12:39important bundle

12:39to understand within rising

12:40cost goods is health care. So

12:43health premiums are up about

12:4575% in the past 12 years. This

12:47is true on both the employee

12:49side of contributions and the

12:50employer side of

12:51contributions, deductibles,

12:53what people are spending out

12:54of pocket. Also up about 84%

12:57over the past 12 years. And as

12:59we'll see, wages have not

12:59grown at nearly that pace.

13:05This, of course, is a problem

13:07that is bad and about to get

13:09substantially worse. So we've

13:10seen the number of people

13:12losing their health insurance

13:14and Minnesota go up by

13:16160,020. 25, expect another

13:18140 to 180,000 to lose their

13:21health care by 2034 due to the

13:24cuts to Medicaid to a billion

13:25dollars in uncompensated care

13:26from Minnesota hospitals.

13:28That, of course will then

13:30filter out the hospital's and

13:31eat some of that cost. But for

13:32the most part, we will al

13:34take on those costs leading to

13:35higher health crisis in the

13:36future. And then one final

13:41place that will touch on is

13:42just the increased cost put on

13:43families by in Minnesota. The

13:46average family has spent about

13:47$1300 more than they would

13:48have because of 2025. that is

13:53likely to get worse in 2026.

13:53With the imposition of new

13:54tariffs on Canada, which will

13:58disproportionately impact

13:58Minnesota with Canada being

13:59are largest foreign trading

14:00partner. And of course, it's

14:06not just those categories, its

14:07food, its housing childcare,

14:08transportation. Some of what

14:09you'll hear more about in the

14:09other presentations. My guess

14:14is that none of this is a new

14:16friend here. We're aware of

14:17the fact that prices are going

14:18up. But again, we spend less

14:19time talking about this other

14:20side, which is wages. And to

14:25start talking about wages. I

14:26want to begin with a

14:27discussion of jobs and I want

14:30to start by talking about jobs

14:31because a softer, weaker labor

14:33market puts more pressure on

14:35wages, right? If people are

14:36finding harder to find work,

14:38it means that employers can

14:39offer them less money. And so

14:40wages are likely to go down.

14:45So 2025 is particularly tough

14:46year for Minnesota's labor

14:48market. We added about 4,000

14:50jobs as you see in the graph.

14:52That's the lowest number of

14:52jobs added in a non-pandemic

14:53year the Great Recession.

14:57Since the end o 2025. Things

15:00have gotten worse. The onset

15:02of metro surge led to a pretty

15:05substantial increase in

15:05Minnesota's unemployment rate

15:06crossing the national rate for

15:07the first time since 2007.

15:13This is not felt equally

15:15across the state. So we've

15:17seen particularly large

15:17increases in unemployment

15:18among black Mnnesotans, other

15:22communities of color as well.

15:23So rise from 4.8% to 7.6% for

15:26black Minnesotans. All of this

15:28making it a particularly

15:29difficult labor market for

15:30people of color in the state.

15:33Now, there are a couple o

15:35ways of understanding why and

15:35unemployment rate can go up.

15:37It may be the case that you've

15:39got more people were trying to

15:41get into the labor market find

15:42jobs that actually can drive

15:43up the unemployment rate.

15:44That's not the case here.

15:46Unfortunately seen exact

15:48opposite at the same time that

15:49unemployment is going up.

15:51We're seeing a huge number of

15:53people leaving the labor

15:54market saying that they're no

15:55longer interested finding

15:57jobs. So Minnesota's labor

15:58force participation rate fell

16:01the from January to July of

16:052026, the largest six-month

16:05decreasing our labor force

16:07participation rate since at

16:07least 2000. So we have people

16:09leaving. The labor market.

16:13People who are losing jobs.

16:16All of this creates a much

16:16softer, much weaker labor

16:17market, which again puts

16:19downward pressure on wages.

16:24just ask. So just understand

16:24that better. So if

16:27unemployment is rising but

16:27labor force, but number of

16:28people seeking work is

16:29falling.

16:31>> Has to mean that the number

16:32of jobs available Is that

16:36okay? That's the only way that

16:37that would be possible. You

16:38have fewer people seeking jobs

16:39but also fewer people in job.

16:40So there's more people

16:41actively seeking jobs and more

16:43people.

16:43>> We're leaving the labor

16:44market completely. So it's a

16:47loss on both sites.

16:59>> 48 minutes and So of

17:00course, he's puts downward

17:00pressure on

17:01>> wages so we can then talk

17:02about wages. The news here is

17:06also not good

17:07inflation-adjusted wages rose

17:08about the median wage for

17:10inflation-adjusted wages rose

17:12about $0.50 for the 2024 to

17:132025 and then fell during the

17:15first 7 months of from the

17:19beginning of 24 to the middle

17:21of 26. We've basically wage

17:22growth at the median level in

17:23Minnesota. Again, this is not

17:28true for all Minnesotans. So

17:30wages have stagnated for the

17:3110th percentile for the 58%

17:33out, but not for the 90th

17:35percentile, not for the

17:36wealthiest Minnesotans were

17:37wages went up 4% over those 2

17:38years. What this means is that

17:42inequality has widened

17:43substantially in the last 2

17:44years. And it's important to

17:45point this out because

17:46contrary to what some of us

17:47might have felt, inequality

17:50actually would do

17:51substantially over the last

17:51decade in Minnesota. So

17:54relative to the 90th

17:56percentile 10th percentile

17:57wages, low wages went up. From

18:002016 to 2024, it's only these

18:04last 2 years that we have

18:04started to see this reversal

18:06again back towards the 90th

18:09percentile, seeing their wages

18:10go up faster than the 10th

18:10percentile. That is in many

18:15ways a return to normal. And

18:19we can best understand this by

18:21understanding how wrkers are

18:23actually taking home the

18:24fruits of their labor. So this

18:26is a graph that shows changes

18:29in productivity and pay since

18:301979. Productivity, basically,

18:33meaning how much are workers

18:34produce? How much of the

18:36creating so since 1979,

18:39Minnesota workers producing

18:40the 6% more almost doubling

18:41how much sure they're putting

18:43out economically. But they're

18:44taking home just 36% more in

18:45wages. Tells us that somebody

18:51else is reaping the rewards of

18:52workers later. So school is

18:56taking this increasingly large

18:57gap between productivity and

18:58pay. You may have already

19:03guessed the answer here, but

19:03this is the So we look at, for

19:07example, the CEO to worker pay

19:07ratio. Has gone up in

19:12Minnesota from around 45 to

19:16The other CEOs making around

19:1840 to 45 more than typical

19:19worker to 325 in 2025, we will

19:24get some select Minnesota

19:25companies Target United Health

19:27Best Buy 3 shows a quite a bit

19:29higher between 550 in 7 800

19:31roughly in target. The other

19:36statistics understanding this

19:36is in the United States is

19:39that the business that labor

19:41share a business income has

19:42hit all time low. Workers are

19:46taking home. Less of what

19:48businesses are taking in than

19:49they ever have in the history

19:50of this country, at least as

19:51as far back as we have the

19:54statistics. So if look back to

19:59for example, pay and

20:00productivity will more closely

20:00intertwined in 2000. W can

20:03see that the labor share of

20:05business income was around. 62

20:0763% today. It's down to 53%.

20:11So all of this is bad news. We

20:13could probably just right line

20:14to that. One bright spot that

20:19I do want to highlight is

20:21unions in Minnesota. So you

20:25need coverage rates rose in

20:292025. Think one can 14.7 to

20:3015.8%. 57.6% increase. We're

20:33also seeing union wages rise.

20:36So when I talked about we just

20:38stagnating, we actually see

20:39here is from 24 to 25 wages

20:41for union members went out.

20:44Wages for their non-union

20:45peers went down. And so that's

20:47where our stagnation comes

20:48from. This from the gap

20:50between union workers and

20:52non-union Workers, of course,

20:54union densities, not high

20:54enough to dag everyone else's

20:56wages up, but it is working

20:58for those people who are part

20:58of unions. So now we can put

21:03these 2 pieces together, wages

21:04and prices. This is what the

21:07affordability gap looks like

21:08Ramsey County. thing that's

21:13important t understand here,

21:14the affordability gap got

21:15substantially better in Ramsey

21:18County during the pandemic.

21:19And that is largely because

21:20wages, even though prices were

21:22going up, we're actually going

21:22up faster. It may not felt

21:24that way. And this was very

21:26difficult campaign talking

21:26point. But it is true that

21:29affordability improved from

21:32many Minnesotans since 2023.

21:34Now starting to see widening

21:35again to the point today where

21:39if you're making median

21:40household earnings and Ramsey

21:41County as a full-time and

21:43part-time worker, you're

21:45making $5500 less than you

21:46need to just your basic cost

21:48of living. Right. So for

21:49things like child care, health

21:51care, none of the extras that

21:52might come on top of that

21:53count number just thanks, here

21:56and Israel's ball.

22:00>> A question so I see a lot

22:01of the data includes the cost

22:03of living for 2 adults. One

22:09child with meat versus median

22:10annual earnings earnings for

22:10full-time and part-time

22:12worker. have 2 questions is

22:15the assumption that a family

22:15has a full-time and part-time

22:16worker? Is that really common?

22:21And then second question, it's

22:21just with one kid. I don't

22:25know what the average number

22:27of children is that a

22:27household has in Ramsey

22:28County, but I would assume

22:30that this gap would be worse.

22:33This cap will be larger for a

22:33lot families because the

22:37income would be saying the

22:38same they would be more

22:39children. But based on the

22:39data that you have. Yeah.

22:43Councilmember Jones, thank you

22:43for the question.

22:47>> So this is based on what

22:48Dede calls the typical family,

22:51OK? So they're understanding

22:52is that this is the most

22:53representative of what a

22:54Minnesota family would look

22:55like. The one full-time

22:55part-time worker. One kit,

22:59whether that's true in Ramsey

23:00County that have to look to

23:01see what family composition

23:03looks like. But it's always

23:04going to be tricky to say that

23:05this is what an average family

23:06looks like right? You are

23:10right that if it's 2 kids and

23:11I'll get into this a little

23:12bit, the affordability gap,

23:16why substantially kids for

23:17anyone who has them are very

23:19expensive. And so it does

23:21create substantially higher

23:21basic costs of living. Yeah.

23:22Thank yu. Yeah. So when we

23:28look at this affordability

23:28gap, Ramsey County does stand

23:30out. Unfortunately, it's the

23:323rd largest affordability gap

23:33of any county in the state.

23:35When we look at the sort of

23:37median earnings to basic cst

23:38of living for a typical

23:39family. also interesting right

23:45interrupt you. But it looks

23:46like it's hard to see each of

23:47the counties that contain 2,

23:48but that Ramsey County is also

23:48an outlier. In terms of the 7

23:50county metro area off and were

23:523rd worst. But we're behind

23:53Winona and race here or not.

23:55>> Our pers, as you might

23:56think about it. I don't know

23:57if that's true with some of

23:58the other data, but it seems

23:59even even worse of an outlier

23:59in

24:00>> that way.

24:01>> Yeah, I have to look back.

24:04But my recollection is that

24:05have been actually features a

24:07similar cost of living. So in

24:08that case, what we'd be

24:09talking about is a distinction

24:11on wages, not on price.

24:11interesting. So again, to

24:16Councilmember Joe's point,

24:18this is looking at a typical

24:21family so we could change some

24:22of the assumptions here. If we

24:24talk about to full-time

24:25workers making the median

24:25wage, for example, you can see

24:28there's now a surplus would

24:29make $8600 more. If you only

24:30have one child. But we could

24:32also look at other ideas. What

24:35if you didn't make the median

24:36wage? What if you made the

24:38minimum wge? So if you made

24:40the minimum wage and you had

24:40to full-time workers and one

24:42child, he would make $25,000

24:44less than you need to meet

24:45your basic costs of living. If

24:48council member just pointed to

24:50kids instead you make over

24:52$50,000 less than what you

24:54need to meet your basic cost

24:56of living. And this is using,

24:58I should say, the same Paul

24:59minimum wage. So what what can

25:02we do about this? I want to

25:06start by talking but

25:06unfortunate asymmetry that

25:07exists. Which is people see

25:11wage gains as their own

25:13achievement in prices is

25:14something that happens to

25:14them. So I don't envy any of

25:16your position to try and

25:17figure out how to deal with

25:18this as a governing body.

25:22People find it difficult to

25:24see that government has

25:26provided or done something to

25:26increase their wages. But they

25:27generally feel like government

25:28is responsible for the prices

25:29that they pay. In some it ways

25:31that actually inversely true

25:33to reality. Which is that

25:37addressing prices pretty hard

25:38for government addressing

25:38wages is much easier. And I

25:43say that because addressing

25:44prices has a couple of tricky

25:45aspects to the first is prices

25:49go inevitably so we our

25:51economy works. So if you're

25:52promising people that prices

25:53are going down are going to go

25:56down, you're basically selling

25:56them a false promise. You

25:58might be able to slow price

26:00growth, but actually bringing

26:02prices down other than

26:03something like gas right now

26:04would be pretty tough. It also

26:07can create bad incentives, the

26:09way that we try to do with

26:09price is often by squishing

26:11labor costs. Well, if you

26:13squish labor cost now would

26:14use people's wages, you've

26:15done nothing to address

26:16affordability. You just

26:17brought down prices and wages

26:18at the same time. The other

26:21thing is that there's just not

26:23a ton that city hall can do to

26:24address prices. A lot of these

26:25are national issues. Sure all

26:27of you would like to try and

26:29stop the run more. But I'm

26:30sure any of you have the

26:31capacity to do so. And if you

26:33do, I really question I

26:35haven't done And the final

26:39thing is it's tough to be

26:40precise, addressing prices. So

26:40if you want to bring down the

26:41price of eggs, for example,

26:43you're impacting the entire

26:44labor supply chain. So that

26:47could be CEO pay. But it could

26:48also be your grocery worker

26:51pay your your farm. Okay. All

26:53of those things come into play

26:54when we're talking about

26:56prices, we just can be much

26:58more targeted. All right. You

27:00can actually address we just

27:02specific parts of that supply

27:03chain entirety it. In terms of

27:06specific ideas. On the price

27:11side. And I think you'll hear

27:11more about this. There are

27:12ways to think about creating

27:13stronger public alternatives

27:15to drive down private costs or

27:17at least create public

27:18alternatives that might. Help

27:21fill gaps left by failing

27:22private markets. So strong

27:25public child care options,

27:26even public grocery stores,

27:28right? Those are where we're

27:29seeing some of these ideas

27:29come in. But on the wage side,

27:31there's a lot more levers to

27:33pull so you can boost worker

27:35power, right? You can make it

27:36easier for people to join

27:37unions. You can create more

27:38union incentives within city

27:42spending. You can create

27:43sectoral bargaining so that

27:44more people have the power

27:45that they need to bargain for

27:49higher wages. Remember the one

27:50place where we're not seeing

27:51wage declines. The on the

27:52wealthy is among union workers

27:52in the state. You can protect

27:56immigrant workers. If we do

27:58not do this, we will hugely

27:59reduce the pwer of the

28:01current labor market and that

28:01will assuredly drive down

28:04wages for everybody. And then

28:05finally, you can raising calls

28:07minimum wage, which is the

28:07most targeted thing to do. And

28:10I will just say this as

28:11clearly as I can. Raising the

28:15minimum wage does not rduce

28:16employment and it does not

28:16mean we raise prices. We can

28:19see this by looking at

28:20examples all over the country,

28:22but ICE site one from

28:23California recently, which

28:25created a $20 minimum wage for

28:28fast-food workers. What we saw

28:30there was a 12% increase in

28:30wages and a 2% increase in

28:33prices. That's the kind of

28:34solution that addresses

28:35affordability and really

28:36meaningful way. Thank you. if

28:41there's time for questions

28:41would be happy to take them.

28:47>> Local for questions and if

28:48that's all right. Thank you.

28:50Thank you so much. I'm going

28:52to invite on on Luis up from

28:53the Alliance.

29:16>> my name had a so you see

29:17him kind I am the housing

29:17coalition organizer with the

29:18Alliance for Metropolitan

29:20Stability. I appreciate the

29:20opportunity to be here to

29:21speak to you I live in

29:26Minneapolis now, but I am the

29:27same color I grew up on the

29:29West side in the east side so

29:30that get to be back home say

29:31point to be speaking to you

29:32up. Yet today. I'm going to

29:35focus in on time, housing and

29:39the impact of housing

29:39cost-burdened households in

29:40Saint Paul before that. Want

29:43to share a little bit more

29:43about who my organization is.

29:46So the alliance is a member

29:47based coalition based

29:48organization that is focused

29:48on. Advancing.

29:54Intersectionality is between

29:55geography, race culture.

29:57Mainly within the Twin Cities

29:58region but are growing to also

29:59expand into Minnesota.

30:00Broccoli. We do this pursuit

30:04of our collective liberation

30:05for all bipoc and racialized

30:06communities in the state of

30:07Minnesota and do this in

30:09partnership with many of our

30:10partner organizations that

30:11located across the So this

30:15kind of focus and that a stand

30:17in the conversation today One,

30:20a kind of ground us on median

30:21rents for residency in the

30:22city of Paul. A-basin housing

30:26links data which they do based

30:28on average highs and shadow

30:31market rents. So rants that

30:32aren't necessarily account it

30:33on the market that folks can

30:35look at traditionally have

30:36accounted that media. Renton

30:38City of Saint Paul is $1247.

30:43For a one-bedroom apartment,

30:45one-bedroom unit. It is $1095

30:49or 2. But Jim, it is $1382 for

30:523 bedrooms $1918. So just name

30:57in what the median rent is. I

30:58also want to focus in on how

31:01how many households people are

31:02already cost burden as it is

31:02today. Currently 20% of Saint

31:07Paul homeowners are cost

31:09burdened that they're paying

31:1030% more of their income on

31:12housing. And 49% of Saint Paul

31:14renter households are also

31:16concentrated. So a majority of

31:18people, households, rental

31:19households are already cost

31:20burden. As have this

31:21conversation today.

31:25>> So going back to what I

31:29medium, medium rent is it

31:30safe? Also starting at $1247.

31:33This would mean someone would

31:34have to make you really just

31:35to pay rent. At least 14,000,

31:39$924 just to py at the median

31:41rate. Using some assumptions

31:46that we before someone to only

31:49be paying 50% of their of

31:49wages or less leaving out that

31:53utilities insurance that are

31:54using now kind of bucket in

31:57with rental outside of this

31:59conversation. So just focus on

31:59the rental cost of the unit.

32:03Assuming that folks are

32:04working 40 hours a week. 52 52

32:05weeks a year. That's our

32:09assumption. That's not

32:09everyone's reality in the

32:10workforce. And then also a

32:13recognition that this data is

32:152 years behind. So really, if

32:16if we want to look at the

32:19median probably should be

32:21looking at $1300 with a

32:22inflation increase from 2024.

32:23To 26. So kind of what I want

32:29to still Littleton For renters

32:32making. The medium medium

32:33rent. 1000 to find at $247,

32:38they would need to yearly may

32:39a yearly salary of $47,879.

32:45That means that this would

32:47this would make up the almost

32:49$50,000 that they would have

32:50to make just to pay their

32:50rent. In addition to the other

32:51costs that we heard from the

32:53presentation before and we'll

32:53hear from the presentation

32:54activity. Which residents will

32:58have to make in the city of

32:59Saint Paul to not because

33:00Britain and to be able to

33:01afford their housing at

33:03minimum. $23.98 almost $24 and

33:06wages an hour. And to not be

33:09considered cost-burdened in

33:10the city of Saint Paul. Even

33:13if we use a little bit more

33:14relaxed math instead of

33:16focusing on 30% and we're

33:17focused 3rd. So 33%, it is

33:19still comes down to $21 or

33:22$21.58 just under $22 an This

33:26is just for folks and not

33:27because spurred anymore. This

33:29isn't this isn't excelling in

33:30any past. And the guys just

33:32that little cap. just question

33:35of

33:39>> Thank Cuncil president

33:42we're the

33:48>> the costs that you are

33:48providing or the.

33:52>> Sorry, the that net or

33:52gross income. If 47 49,000 or

33:58something like that, Get this.

33:59I believe it's gross gross.

34:01It. So that's think I'm just

34:12so for the average apartment

34:12rent think not including

34:13utilities, not icluding

34:15utilities, are insurance costs

34:16into that. renters insurance

34:18and utilities of the unit

34:19itself. so just solely the

34:19price of the unit.

34:26>> So moving into recognizing

34:28where we're at where the level

34:29of cost burden isn't ready for

34:31residents want to focus in on

34:34what what work, whether

34:35Congress isn't is around. What

34:35is affordable housing.

34:37>> Affordable housing usually

34:38tends to be. Developments are

34:42focused on 50 to 60% area.

34:43Median income. Is he will

34:47break down to $1233 per month

34:51in rent that someone would

34:52have to make at 50%. Am Any

34:57properties that are coming

34:58online 50%? Am I? It is a part

34:59the tenant to have to make it

35:01least $1250 a month just to

35:03pay for the rental cost of

35:04that, you get it doesn't. It

35:05doesn't account the utility.

35:06insurance costs. What this

35:11breaks down to a yearly, the

35:13yearly salary would mean that

35:14someone have to would have to

35:15make $49,220 minimum just to

35:16be able to for the unit

35:19accounting to $23 and $0.74 an

35:20hour. As we move to 60% am I

35:26properties this would mean

35:27that a resident would have to

35:27make $1479 or $59,160 a year

35:36accounting to $28. And $0.44

35:36an

35:40>> So with the data, I think

35:42if you make argument could be

35:44made that with the minimum

35:45wage that city people has

35:48presently.

35:48>> It is requiring and it's to

35:49take on the burden of being

35:52cost-burdened making more

35:53wages just to pay the minimum

35:54that they need to pay just in

35:54right.

35:58>> It also has a clear

36:00recognition that as as

36:02production continues in the

36:03city of Paul to to continue to

36:05build more affordable housing

36:07in the the conversation around

36:08what is affordable housing

36:09needs to used go further and

36:13that we truly meeting the

36:14needs of folks that every

36:15because Britain city of of of

36:15Saint Paul at a 50% and my

36:18building at at the data that

36:20it was presented today.

36:20They're already caught. There

36:22concert outside of those units

36:25which forces folks who look

36:26for units at a cheaper rate.

36:27In most cases. Can can be

36:31assumed that are not in the

36:31best conditions are are, you

36:34know, not be maintained at the

36:35at the state that they need to

36:36be to So in summary. The

36:41median right again for the

36:42city of Saint Paul has roughly

36:45$1247. This is based data from

36:492024, this means that it would

36:51have to make just below

36:52$15,000 again, just to pay for

36:53that rent. It would mean that

36:56residents accounts to make at

36:58least $50,000 in annual

37:02salary, recognizing that that

37:04an hour. down to $23 ad $0.90

37:07>> Want to focus in as well.

37:12>> Currently, believe 33% of

37:14Saint Paul households make

37:15$50,000 or less based on the

37:16Minnesota compass so. Although

37:21medium, what our media rental

37:21rates are currently folks, 30%

37:25of the city already cannot

37:25make. The median rental costs

37:30just bsed on salary and wages

37:32have hope bring whole. As we

37:32saw that, issue. Why did you

37:39want to give Thank you to our

37:42friends at the Center of Urban

37:43and Regional Affairs really

37:44compiled data and give us

37:44summer clearance and

37:45understanding of what the data

37:47in Saint Paul means, how how

37:48it ends a kind of moving. And

37:51also wanted to give credit to

37:52the Minnesota Compass Project

37:54how the leak for a public

37:54sources as well. And then

37:56thank you to this body. Thank

37:58you so much. question

38:03>> Yeah, just haven't really,

38:04actually just really quick

38:05when you said what percent of

38:07Saint Paul residents under

38:0850,000.

38:09>> I believe it's 33. Thank

38:14you so much of of simpler

38:15Presidents. Yeah. Thank you.

38:22>> All right. Moving right

38:23along last, but definitely not

38:24the U.S.. We have folks to

38:27come speak from child care for

38:30all so welcome our speakers up

38:31to the podium. Please

38:35introduce yourselves.

38:39>> they stick with Do it?

38:43>> High as consumers think you

38:44so much for having us today.

38:48We're here child care for all

38:50talk about how childcare

38:51access affordability and Saint

38:51Paul. I'm Maria. I the

38:55director of Dream. A Child

38:56Development Center in Saint

38:59Paul. custody. district and I

39:03my mom started rainbow in 1988

39:05because there was a lack of

39:07quality full-time affordable

39:10childcare. Spoiler alert. It

39:10still exists and that they're

39:11going to be talking about

39:12today. The issue. So this. I

39:16want to thank the other

39:17senators to I feel like you're

39:18really TSA because everything

39:19you talked about exactly into

39:20what we're going to be

39:21discussed as well. So that all

39:22it Colleagues here just with

39:28>> Hi, my name Albert Everlane

39:30and I live Frank Simple. You

39:34well, actually live here at

39:34well, their center. a father

39:41of kid who has experience with

39:42child care. And I tell you

39:44about my story.

39:49>> Good afternoon Council. My

39:50name is Mark. They get a I'm

39:53Alexa him. Residents in

39:55district. I and the mother of

39:582 children. I have experience

40:00paying for child care as well

40:01as working in childcare

40:02centers. early intervention

40:03teacher with simple schools.

40:04But I am sure to on my own

40:05accord and not representative

40:08schools with my the

40:10information I share today.

40:11Thank you for having us. Thank

40:12you for being here.

40:17>> so first we're going to

40:18just sort set the stage for

40:20you all about how important

40:21early childhood is. Many of

40:23you that part of why these

40:23conversations already. So I

40:26will take too much of your but

40:27we always have to go back.

40:29Whenever we talk about child

40:30care is super important that

40:31we put the kids at the center,

40:33right. So I think it's really

40:33important that we remember

40:34that 90% of children's brain

40:37develop every person's brain

40:38develops before age 5. So 80%

40:41of a child's brain develops

40:42before age 3. So I know some

40:45as we hear things like, oh, my

40:46gosh. Can you believe child

40:48care is more expensive in

40:48college and that's really

40:50expensive. And that is wild

40:51and their things policies we

40:52can create that could change

40:53that. But shouldn't it because

40:5690% of our brain develops

40:58before were 5. So we should be

41:00investing as much of our

41:01resources as we possibly can

41:02into this stage in life. Some

41:08of these the slide here just

41:09illustrates some different

41:11statistics about the

41:12importance of early cildhood.

41:13So children are more likely to

41:15meet or exceed great double

41:16standards when they have had

41:16access to early learning.

41:18There graduate from high

41:20school. Children are less

41:23likely to be facing the

41:24special education if they

41:25receive early intervention. So

41:25Murtha's fell for it and

41:29high-quality programs from

41:30children birth to 5 can

41:31deliver a 13% per year return

41:32investment. Adverse a 7 to 10%

41:35return from previous

41:36established preschool programs

41:37for 3 to 4 year-olds. So I'm

41:39just really focusing that.

41:42This needs to be comprehensive

41:43from birth to 5, not just Pre

41:44K. And there's a ripple effect

41:49when it comes to both high

41:50quality and poor quality child

41:51care. So it's not just that we

41:54need warehouses for kids

41:55people go to work, right? We

41:56need these to be really rich,

41:57robust environments for

41:57children so their brains can

41:59develop when children are not

42:02given the opportunity to have

42:03those types robust eergence

42:09it can lead to whole slew

42:11issues like we could brain

42:12development, floor,

42:13educational achievement,

42:14family, economic instability.

42:15So many of you probably in

42:18this room have young kids and

42:19know that if you don't have

42:20childcare, you can't go to

42:22work, which means you can't

42:24make money, which means a

42:24whole so things for your

42:27family leaves address health

42:28incomes. And there's an

42:29increased likelihood children

42:31and families, people needing

42:32social safety net dependence,

42:32which it's frightening to me.

42:39With to Albert. He's going to

42:41a little more about the costs

42:42for families. This a fall. So

42:46I think it goes without saying

42:47that we think we know health

42:49care costs are really, really

42:49super expensive.

42:51>> Right. And, you know, part

42:55of the reason why it's so

42:57expensive is one teacher pay

42:59and benefits because one we

42:59have to pay for the healthcare

43:00ensure insurance rate as well

43:03as like competitive wages.

43:04Because if we don't pay our

43:07child care providers, what

43:08they are worth, they will go

43:08to a different take center

43:10where they would get more

43:11money rght, as well as like

43:14an offense and things of that

43:14nature. The second one is

43:16licensing and compliance

43:20because all child care

43:21providers need to licensing

43:23standards as well as like

43:24maintain background checks as

43:25well as training as well as

43:28like ongoing inspections and

43:31nature, including health and

43:32safety requirements on.

43:33There's also like a small type

43:36of 10 15%, which, you know. Is

43:39the supplies and curriculum

43:42that teacher kids like, hey,

43:43this is like what social

43:44skills are or this is how we

43:45can use some scissors to cut

43:47out. Let's start right. Or

43:49this is like a star or

43:51matching shapes for that or

43:51what have you right and then

43:56the next one is because males

43:58because cn't kids lunches to

44:00our kids. And so on the day

44:01care so lunches are provided

44:05and or snacks or dinner depape

44:06on the hours of the day care.

44:08All right. And then

44:11administrative operation costs

44:12like Steph scheduling HR

44:15daycare providers have a

44:17teacher, right? Which some

44:19money, right, as well as talk

44:21technology, communication and

44:23marketing to make sure that

44:24kids get into there, senator

44:26to make them more money as

44:28well as to like give them a

44:30place for the kid to go and

44:34then facility costs like rent

44:36or mortgage or, you know that

44:37utilities can be little bit

44:39more expensive to to the Iran

44:41war, right, as well as

44:43insurance because insurance

44:43premiums are definitely going

44:44up as well too. And then any

44:47maintenance and repairs that

44:48are needed. And I I think set

44:53up fast as it can see. And

44:58average cost fr child care

44:59centers. $23,452. Where is the

45:04Minnesota, you know,

45:05university, Minnesota

45:05tuitions, like $19,312. I went

45:10to a private school and this

45:11is as much as a private

45:12school. But I think it's money

45:13well spent when you get down

45:14to it you know, the from those

45:20that you because of care

45:22because of the cost being so

45:23expensive, you just can't take

45:23out a student loan for self

45:24care and that makes the new

45:27families. You know. Go through

45:29impossible choices right? So

45:32just like leaving the

45:34workforce or giving up your or

45:37refinancing your home or going

45:38thousands of dollars into

45:39credit card debt or just

45:42general to help pay for child

45:43care costs. And I think it's

45:47important to note, too, like

45:48disproportionately, it's women

45:48who are taking you know, who

45:52are forced you stay at home.

45:55Mom, straight where, as you

45:55know, we want them to go out

45:57and get the jobs and make more

45:59money right and the federal

46:06forward ability standard for

46:06childcare is like some percent

46:07of like a family's income in

46:10Saint Paul, a family with one

46:11child. So shes my family would

46:15need $335,000 a year for the

46:18street. True. My wife and I

46:21only make 120,000, right? So

46:22again, that's very you know,

46:25key. So to say, and, you know,

46:29in Saint Paul, Minnesota, we

46:32invest the least of their

46:33families when they have the

46:33least amount of wealth and,

46:36you know, when you know the

46:40know, when they're first to 5,

46:43right? So some stories from

46:48some, you know, moms and

46:49parents and family members

46:50right? One by Kelly, my family

46:52and I struggle to find

46:53available care for our first

46:55child encountering waitlist

46:56set several same poll centers

46:58when I 12 weeks pregnant. Once

47:01we welcomed our second child,

47:04our child care expenses

47:05comprise 90% of my take-home

47:06pay and resorted to

47:07refinancing your mortgage to

47:07help cover. Tese costs. Each

47:09month. And we know. I'm a

47:15licensed teacher. I left the

47:16classroom when I had a baby

47:16planning to stay home for the

47:17first 2 years to avoid the

47:22figure I could either go to

47:23work, take care of other

47:24people's kids and make no

47:26money or stay at home. Take

47:27care of my own kids and make

47:28no money. I haven't enter

47:31enter the classroom despite my

47:31job offer because I have to

47:32have had to put both of my

47:34children in front and

47:38preschooler in childcare. And

47:39I wouldn't make enough to

47:39afford it. And for some time I

47:45can't afford to pay 500 a week

47:48for child care for my son. So

47:49I think my friends and family

47:50to Washington for much less

47:50and wonder every day who will

47:52watch in the it's exhausting.

47:55And if I can share my story

47:56about it. My son was born

48:01during the pandemic. And

48:04during that my wife and I were

48:08on leave from our jobs because

48:08we're both mental health

48:09therapists and luckily I was

48:13able to go to work. She was

48:15able stay with my son until

48:21August September. During that

48:22time we were trying to find

48:24day care center, which we're

48:25very lucky and actually found

48:25a center that said we actually

48:27have a small we must. And

48:29here, you know, we're thinking

48:32maybe October, which we think,

48:33hey, that's great. But we're

48:35only allowed to do 4 days out

48:35of the 5 day work week which

48:38like okay, not ideal, but

48:39that's okay. Right? We send my

48:45son to a Spanish version taker

48:49because of my Mexican heritage

48:50and want them learn the

48:50language. So to say right? And

48:54we find taker program. We send

48:55him to it starting off. It was

48:59around 550 every 2 weeks,

49:03which if you do, the math is

49:04like around like a mortgage

49:05rent teen a spot. Great. And

49:09then at the end when we were

49:10done, it was around $778.

49:12Every 2 weeks ago. It's a

49:16mortgage that we could have

49:16been putting towards our house

49:19and because we were doing work

49:21on or how such as new roof or

49:22new sighting, all that money

49:23had to go to. That. We had go

49:27to pay for new improvements on

49:28their house right and you

49:35know, it was interesting

49:36because like it was it was

49:37good for, you know, the time

49:38like there is organic meals

49:40right? The center teachers are

49:41very nice to my son. However,

49:44towards the end, we started

49:45noticing things changing,

49:47especially in 2025. we noticed

49:50that his teachers that he had

49:52in previous classrooms are no

49:54longer there. And the 2

49:55teachers that were in his

49:56classroom abruptly quits.

50:00Winds chatting with one of his

50:01teachers. You know, she was

50:06very saddened. We communicate

50:07to Lakers. Very sad for her to

50:08leave because my son really

50:11love his daycare teachers,

50:12right? She even asked us like

50:15a win. You know, I'm missing

50:16them. some of us it right. Can

50:16I emailed them cover them? A

50:18letter, right? So it's very

50:20important to recognize like,

50:21hey, like the relationship is

50:22there. M son made and then

50:26also the relationships gone.

50:28It's like, you know, it's it's

50:28a loss when you get down to

50:29us. And one thing that they

50:36said, you know, cause, you

50:37know, a month sentence between

50:38my wife and I right it was

50:43part one of the problems was,

50:44you know, the wage peace

50:45because they were getting paid

50:46enough. So they had to move on

50:49right? Another thing that

50:51inhalation super concerned was

50:57there are no protections for

50:58them to their immigration

50:59status which, you know, mates

51:04sense my wife and I because it

51:08because of the times that

51:09we're living right and the

51:14thing, though, that I kind of

51:15into that, too, is like the.

51:17The thing that my son Bill do.

51:20We have redo it again. Now we

51:22have to build up the trust

51:23again with was a new teacher

51:24that he does not necessarily

51:24know right if his teacher that

51:29left knew how to help him when

51:31he was having a meltdown, the

51:32new teacher doesn't know what

51:32to do. And then all of a

51:33sudden he's refusing to get

51:35out of bed and go to the state

51:36care center. Luckily, we only

51:37had it. Help him through this

51:42for like 5 months, but they

51:43will still not a good thing.

51:45And I think it's important,

51:48you know, to that. When. These

51:56experiences that we've had

51:57read to my family. I've had.

51:59You know, I don't blame

52:01anybody on this. I don't blame

52:04the teachers. I don't blame

52:04what's going on right? Rather.

52:09I think it raises an important

52:10question like are we giving

52:11for child care providers, the

52:15resources, the supports

52:16protections that they need in

52:17order to do their job. Well,

52:20enough freight because it is

52:21stressful when you get down to

52:23it as well as making sure that

52:25they are in distress because

52:26our kids can definitely pick

52:27up on stressors, which if my

52:30kid is, you know, if I pick

52:31him up from like that day care

52:34provider and I feel that he

52:35stressed that shows me that,

52:36hey, there's a lot of stress

52:37going on in the state are

52:38center. And I would encourage

52:43the council to craft policies

52:43for childcare to support. Not

52:47only the centers, but also the

52:48child providers. Thank you.

52:53>> Whenever I hear stories

52:54like Albert's are the ones

52:57that are quoted in our sights

52:57here. It always strikes me how

52:59deeply personal and unique

53:00they are and how and how

53:02universal they are because we

53:04really have a systemic issue

53:06when it comes to child care in

53:07our city, in our state and our

53:07country. And I think like to

53:10share experiences that hours

53:11talking about I really

53:15important for us to name not

53:16his personal problems, but as

53:18systemic problems that we hope

53:19to fix as policymakers. so

53:23tell talk a little bit really

53:23tell educators

53:26>> most of the people that are

53:28doing the hard work of early

53:29child education are part of

53:30the global majority, meaning

53:31that there are people of

53:32color. Just fortunately, women

53:33of color. Many most early

53:40childhood educators are living

53:41in poverty themselves are not

53:42making a thriving weight.

53:44They're more prone to stress,

53:44illness and injury. And many

53:46have up. Up to 90% of early

53:50educators. Report one or more

53:54aces score compared to 57. 55

53:551% of Minnesota residents

53:58which i you're not familiar,

53:59says measures childhood

53:59trauma. The average wage in

54:05Saint Paul, friend in need is

54:0818 to $20 an hour for early

54:08educators. And if you remember

54:10back, I told you all that 90%

54:12of a child's brain happens

54:13before age 5 and we're paying

54:16people just about what the

54:17minimum wage. Is this a little

54:18bit more than that? And we

54:20heard some really compelling

54:21statistics about how this is

54:22not enough to be able to

54:23afford your rent, let alone

54:25bill generational wealth by

54:25getting home. Or even afford

54:29fill up your tank of gas.

54:30Sometimes. So. Most time,

54:34don't have access to benefits

54:37that are robust, like health

54:37insurance paid time off. Take

54:39the case policies. Things like

54:41that because the industry is

54:44so Mr. Stretched for families

54:46can't afford to pay more. And

54:46providers can't afford to.

54:49Make any less. They need to be

54:50became more. So I different

54:55side here, but I wanted to

54:55make sure. Actually work. I

54:58think is you?

55:04>> Okay. I wanted to highlight

55:04with that last slide. So

55:05average wage being 18 to $20

55:08an hour.

55:09>> Even and early childhood

55:10teacher is relying on snap

55:13another county benefits with

55:14that still means is that many

55:16teachers are one car breaking

55:17down or one car accident away.

55:18>> From.

55:22>> Having a stop work breaks,

55:23if you can't get to work, you

55:24can pick up your kids. You

55:25can't. And that really don't

55:27affect that. We all know that

55:28that has. So then when yeah,

55:29and we see children then

55:30wondering what am I to to

55:32leave. And this is a

55:34collective right, like a

55:34failure of will to support and

55:38honor collectively the women

55:40like the value of women of

55:40color.

55:46>> member nw, I know the city

55:47of Saint Paul. We're all

55:48really invested revitalizing

55:50downtown.

55:52>> That type of robust,

55:54revitalization really can't

55:55happen without affordable

55:57accessible childcare. Sesame

55:58of last year in Minnesota lost

55:592.1 billion with a B dollars

56:01in the economy. Just

56:04>> Toddler talker crisis, not

56:05even including preschool or

56:05like after-school cildcare

56:09programs. There are about 6700

56:10children roll the 87 license

56:14facilities. So even a

56:15conservative estimate, that's

56:16like 676 jobs right there,

56:17just from child care centers

56:19along not including how many

56:21parents and found it was that

56:21can then go to work. So the

56:24ripple effect is really huge

56:25on the economy in terms of

56:27childcare.

56:29>> 7 longstanding childcare

56:29centers, close town in Saint

56:30Paul last year. These were

56:34longstanding center, some of

56:35them around for 90 years. 75

56:36years. And all of those 6

56:37stated that the reason that

56:38they close down is because

56:40they can't.

56:41>> Families can afford to pay

56:43more and they can't afford to

56:45pay their teachers enough to

56:48both recruit high-quality

56:49experience. Educators and to

56:53keep them in the field where

56:54we shot of teachers leave the

56:56field is leave the workforce

56:58like leave the center. It's

56:59usually to go to a whole

57:00different field, even if it's

57:01not where they went to school

57:03for, even that's not what they

57:04actually want to do. But

57:04because they have no choice

57:06because the most they can hope

57:07to earn a $20 an hour for the

57:07longevity of their career.

57:13>> I think cruising to be

57:16perfect and time just matter

57:17of about 7 and a left for the

57:18whole conversation. Okay.

57:18Okay. This out.

57:21>> You guys have the site will

57:22let you read through it.

57:24Basically investing in early

57:25adds money to families pockets

57:29not just in the short term,

57:29but over the course of years.

57:30So one study show that after

57:326, 6 years after families had

57:34access to universal childcare,

57:35they were mking $60,000 more

57:36as as a household. Pretty

57:38compelling stuff. So no for

57:38him.

57:42>> So just like we saw the

57:43cost of an infant care

57:44relative to the cost, the U of

57:46M right, Representative Pinto

57:47says a soft and that we invest

57:50the least ad families when in

57:52their lifetime, in the

57:53careers, in their careers,

57:54they have the least amount of

57:54savings to afford it. We don't

57:56have FAFSA fairly care. We

58:00don't have federal and state

58:01grants and loans to pay for

58:02it. And that matters. So So

58:11when we think about where do

58:12we pass the buck? You know,

58:13there's no thank goodness that

58:17as we with inroads and calls

58:19presentation

58:20that has productivity has

58:23increased wages have not kept

58:25up. We also know that there is

58:29no robot that can replace an

58:30early childhood teacher. There

58:31is no productivity increase.

58:32That's going to happen. The

58:34only answer that we have is a

58:36massive public ivestment in

58:39early care. We saw also the

58:40difference between what CEOs

58:42are earning as well as their

58:44workers. so one of our policy

58:46recommendations in addition is

58:49that we can increase the

58:51minimum wage, but we're going

58:51to need something bigger than

58:53that. to really address this

58:54issue. So we need to raise

58:57revenue with specifically big

58:58business reminding them of the

59:03advantage of and really early

59:04childhood. And what we're

59:05asking you to do at the state

59:07Capitol is to collaborate with

59:09their colleagues, testify in

59:10support of universal childcare

59:12system and specifically keep

59:14in mind educators of color as

59:19well as immigrants who are

59:19disproportionately impacted by

59:22lowered wages as well as

59:23families who are seeking child

59:23care and to increase wages for

59:31teachers without increasing

59:32the cost for families who are

59:33already priced out of care. So

59:37we asked people to be a great

59:37race voice for children and

59:40enjoy. Join us in a meshing

59:41for state. Thank you. Thank

59:42you so much. And thank you to

59:46all of our presenters for

59:47giving us a lot of helpful

59:49information

59:53>> We have about 5 minutes

59:54left. looking to my colleagues

59:54to see what questions prime

59:55time for like. One and a half

59:56or 2 questions. As Johnson in

59:59the I don't I don't as

1:00:05actually have a question then

1:00:06I would just share that like

1:00:07and I appreciate.

1:00:08>> Folks are being willing to

1:00:11share their story as my

1:00:13myself, honestly, I can see a

1:00:15lot of my own personal

1:00:17experience in bed when the

1:00:18stories that are

1:00:19transparently, you know, yes,

1:00:22it's hard to accommodate $500

1:00:22a week, but we make it happen

1:00:24because we need to. But still,

1:00:27you know, when you think about

1:00:28the annually in some cases and

1:00:29in many cases, it's more

1:00:30expensive than the average

1:00:31rent costs. As we've seen. So

1:00:34it's all very connected. In

1:00:35some cases you're paying $500

1:00:38week as our family is. It can

1:00:39be even double your markets.

1:00:43And so I know that script for

1:00:44it and I won't take too much

1:00:46other time other than to say,

1:00:46like as we continue to talk

1:00:48about affordability and

1:00:49everything goes out, I think

1:00:50they'll be a lot of questions

1:00:51about the why. And you'll hear

1:00:53things floated because, you

1:00:54know, I would argue that rent

1:00:56control doesn't Saint solve

1:00:57this. Whether it's in place or

1:00:58not that driving court cost of

1:01:03housing child care, the cost

1:01:04to families the growing amount

1:01:07of folks that are being

1:01:08evicted in the city. It's all

1:01:09intertwined in and many ways

1:01:11is growing. And the numbers of

1:01:13those data sets are

1:01:14continuing. a helpful.

1:01:18Informational presentations

1:01:19from author folks that are in

1:01:19front of us today. So thanks.

1:01:25Council for bringing folks.

1:01:26shows the because that's my

1:01:26thing is the stress?

1:01:27>> I was jst gonna wrap it

1:01:28up. Thanks chair. Thank you to

1:01:33tell you for your

1:01:34presentations, everyone. That

1:01:34came think that.

1:01:37>> I'm also a mom of

1:01:39experience. Something similar

1:01:39to some of the stories that

1:01:40were shared. I really

1:01:41appreciate all of you for

1:01:42sharing your stories. I think

1:01:44another thing that stands out

1:01:44to me and when I read through

1:01:45your slides about

1:01:48>> about the economy and about

1:01:50a cure ability to earn income

1:01:53and and like future

1:01:54generational wealth. I think

1:01:55that one thing I want to point

1:01:57out is a lot of this makes it

1:01:58very challenging, especially

1:01:59for women to stay in the

1:02:00workforce.

1:02:01>> And the ways that we one

1:02:06east and workforce also

1:02:06childcare workers being women

1:02:07and women of color just not

1:02:10being valued and in that way

1:02:11and if we wear, you know,

1:02:14being supported as much as we

1:02:15need to sustain the work force

1:02:16that would solve a lot of the

1:02:19problems that we're talking

1:02:20about. So I just want to point

1:02:20that out because it's

1:02:21something that

1:02:23>> it's something that's very,

1:02:27very challenging.

1:02:27>> and I I think that, you

1:02:28know, there's that there's not

1:02:31any easy solutions, but we do

1:02:31have some things that the city

1:02:32that we can do. So thank you

1:02:34for.

1:02:34>> For everything of talk

1:02:35about today.

1:02:38>> And before turning things

1:02:39over to Ms Kehm to close us. I

1:02:40do. I also want to offer my

1:02:42thanks to everyone. Lots of

1:02:43follow-up questions. You're

1:02:44especially talk about how to

1:02:47one of the things I didn't see

1:02:48on the slides was to sort

1:02:50redistribute some of that

1:02:51wealth of this going to the

1:02:53high earners wondering about

1:02:54policy solutions for that

1:02:56because that to me seems like

1:02:57in another very targeted

1:02:59approach. And and to my

1:03:02friends advocating for

1:03:02affordable childcare is just

1:03:06always wonderful to see you.

1:03:07And I want to thank We've

1:03:07worked together on trying to

1:03:11solve this issue at the local

1:03:11level we haven't done it yet

1:03:12and we're going to and hopeful

1:03:16that campaign here is going to

1:03:18one way to do that at the

1:03:18state level. Hopefully so

1:03:21right there with you. And with

1:03:22that has yet is the key word.

1:03:23I think there.

1:03:26>> Yeah, I next steps for You

1:03:28know, we're going to be

1:03:29reaching out to more groups

1:03:30like we were selective in who

1:03:31we wanted to help grounds the

1:03:35council and are millions of

1:03:36viewers at home over what the

1:03:38issue is that we're trying to

1:03:39tackle. And reality is that we

1:03:40know that we feel across Saint

1:03:42Paul the next steps for

1:03:44offices were going to be

1:03:44reaching out to additional

1:03:45folks that might want to be

1:03:48interested and participating

1:03:49engagement sessions with us

1:03:49the last time we raise the

1:03:50minimum wage in Saint Paul, we

1:03:53heard Citizens League. I think

1:03:53you have like $150,000 price

1:03:55tag. We don't have that. So

1:03:57we're going to start with

1:03:58people, people, our greatest

1:04:00assets, and we're ging to

1:04:04start engaging different.

1:04:05Yeah, different groups of

1:04:05stakeholder. So if you're

1:04:07interested and meeting with my

1:04:09office and with labor groups

1:04:09and with families like please

1:04:12reach out to us. But we'll be

1:04:14taking a very similar approach

1:04:14as a Citizen league did. And

1:04:18the tree ordinance with with 0

1:04:21Money, which I think is where

1:04:21it's modeled Morris it the

1:04:22tree ordinance so we just

1:04:26office. We look forward to

1:04:27engaging with all of you.

1:04:27Thank you so much for taking

1:04:28the time and presenting. We

1:04:29really appreciate it.

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