2026-09-29 - Planning Board

00:12Good evening and welcome to the meeting

00:14of the planning board. Today is

00:16September 29th, 2026.

00:19Frank, do you want to begin us?

00:23>> Roll call. Um, Mr. Abrams

00:27>> present.

00:28>> Mr. Cassanzer is absent.

00:32Mrs. Hoffman

00:33>> present.

00:34>> Present.

00:36Mr. Rivera

00:37>> here.

00:38>> Present.

00:39Uh, Miss Simmons Hurling

00:41>> here.

00:42>> Present. Mr. Tamatopoulos absent. And

00:46Mr. Sullivan

00:47>> here.

00:47>> Present. Okay.

00:53First order of business is a public

00:55hearing

00:57on a zoning amendment regarding body art

01:00establishments.

01:02If I can pull it out.

01:07It's um this is section uh 176.048A

01:15is is deleted. This section is going to

01:17be deleted in its entirety. And what

01:20that section reads is that uh body

01:23establishment may not be located less

01:25than 500 feet from each other uh 500

01:29feet from schools, playgrounds, and

01:32houses of worship. So uh the board of

01:36health since we're allowed body out

01:38establishments in the general business

01:39district that would preclude any body

01:42establishments getting a certificate of

01:44occupancy because of these strict

01:46regulations. So uh the this hearing is

01:52basically to amend that section to

01:54eliminate it in its entire its entirety

01:56and that's that's all it is simple that

01:58one sentence.

02:00So um

02:04>> thank you. Are there proponents to speak

02:06on this here tonight?

02:10Hearing and seeing none. Are there

02:11opponents here to speak on this tonight?

02:16hearing and seeing none.

02:19Do members of the board have any

02:20questions on the body art change?

02:24>> Do we have any body art or tattoo paras

02:27here presently in rea yet?

02:29>> Not off the top of my head. Frank, do

02:31you know?

02:31>> Yeah, the board of health has had uh

02:34proved a few already that exist,

02:37>> but they're not already developed.

02:39>> They weren't regulated under the

02:40ordinance. Now we have an ordinance that

02:42regulates where they could go. And um

02:46>> what section of rea

02:48>> now? They're allowed in the general

02:49business district, which is basically

02:51Broadway, Shirley Avenue, uh Highway

02:54Business, Squire Road, and those areas.

02:57So,

02:58>> what are the hours of a tattoo or a body

03:00art place?

03:01>> Can't be open later than 11

03:04p.m. And they're regulated by the board

03:06of health. Um

03:09and um a lot of the beauty salons do

03:14tattooing now, which is included in the

03:17body art establishment because they do

03:19the eyebrows and this and that. So

03:22that's all covered now. It's not the old

03:25tattoo days where you go in and get a a

03:29tiger on your shoulder or something like

03:31that.

03:31>> Barbers also or just beauty salons?

03:34>> Uh anybody who undertakes that? Yeah.

03:37could be a barber. Yeah. Hair stylist,

03:40>> butianicians usually. So this so body

03:45art establishments are now kind of equal

03:47to that type of establishment and you're

03:49seeing more and more of those in the

03:51city. So they wanted to make it uh less

03:55difficult for them to start a business

03:57in rever.

04:02>> We don't have one. All right.

04:05>> We

04:07We do [music]

04:08>> the board of health has issued licenses

04:10but only to like buticians to do like

04:13body piercing and uh you know the uh

04:17eyebrow piercing and that sort of thing

04:19but this as a regular

04:21body art establishment allow people to

04:23go in for tattooing of other their body

04:26parts.

04:28>> So there is a a policy already in place.

04:30>> We already have an ordinance that's been

04:32adopted.

04:33>> Okay.

04:33>> Okay. Okay. And this is a small tiny

04:35amendment to that ordinance.

04:44>> Do you want to take roll call on that

04:45one?

04:51>> We have a motion to

04:52>> Yes. Motion to take role on that.

04:55>> Is there a second by anybody? We have a

04:58second.

04:59>> Second.

05:04Okay. Um,

05:07[clears throat]

05:07on the motion to recommend to the city

05:09council uh

05:12the amendment of section 171648A

05:16by deleting it in its entirety.

05:19Mr. Abrams,

05:20>> yes.

05:21>> Mr. Cassan is absent. Miss Hoffman,

05:25>> yes.

05:26>> Mr. Rivera,

05:28>> yes.

05:28>> Miss Simmons Hurley,

05:30>> yes.

05:31>> Mr. Timtopolis is absent and Mr.

05:33Sullivan.

05:33>> Yes.

05:34>> Yes. So audited. So that recommendation

05:36will go to the city council. They have

05:38public hearing I I think was last

05:40evening. So it'll go to the council for

05:42next week.

05:47Okay.

05:50The second public hearing

05:51[clears throat]

05:52is held with respect to

05:55um

05:57the uh overlook ridge drive uh layout to

06:03be adopted as a public way as shown on

06:06the plan uh and Malden dated July 1st

06:102025 prepared by 225 prepared by Hancock

06:14Associates.

06:16So, this is a layout for Overlook Ridge

06:19Drive. Right now, they have uh a

06:22temporary uh curb cut and driveway on

06:25Salem Street. The master plan

06:30provided a uh a new

06:33thoroughfare

06:34uh cutting right through Overlook Ridge

06:36Drive. And it's basically eliminates the

06:39existing curb cut and creates a new curb

06:41cut and driveway entrance right in front

06:43of the fire station. on Salem Street.

06:47So, uh this is important for the city to

06:51uh accept this layout uh as a public way

06:55because Mass Highway Department uh the

06:58city received a $4 million grant from

07:00Mass Highway Department to design and

07:02construct the intersection and in the

07:06layout of that driveway. So, um,

07:12that's the that's a little bit about the

07:14history of it. They've gone through a uh

07:17and and the proponents will probably

07:19explain it thoroughly. Gone through a uh

07:22um an intense environmental review

07:24process and review by Mass Highway

07:27Department. So, I'll I'll leave it up to

07:29any other bonus want to speak on it.

07:32>> Thank you. Let's do the opponents first.

07:34Are there any opponents here to speak on

07:36this this evening? Hearing

07:39seeing none, are there any proponents

07:42here to speak this evening?

07:48>> Feel free to come up and share.

07:58>> Whatever you prefer is okay.

08:1111 by 17.

08:24>> Thank you.

08:29Sure.

08:31[clears throat]

08:37>> Okay.

08:42>> Could you state your name and for

08:45record?

08:45>> Absolutely. My name is Sam Rand.

08:50I'm also joined by Jen Schultz.

08:55>> Sorry.

08:56>> Press that button for the mic. Right

08:58under the base of the microphone there

09:00would be a button.

09:02>> Yes.

09:02>> Thank you. Thank you.

09:03>> Okay, I'll start over. Um, my name is

09:06Sam Randall. I'm representing the

09:08proponent. I'm also joined this evening

09:10by Jen Schultz, our legal counsel, as

09:13well as Wayne Amo. He is our project

09:15engineer, transportation engineer. Um,

09:18so I will need the cord. [clears throat]

09:22>> Yeah.

09:26>> Sorry to make you work.

11:45Okay, great. So, it looks like he's able

11:48to zoom in.

11:49>> Stand to the side. Um, so we have a

11:51brief presentation this evening. Um,

11:55there we go.

11:57As Frank mentioned, we're here tonight

12:00to request the planning board's

12:02recommendation to city council for the

12:04layout of parcel A1, which I'll walk you

12:06through. Um, this project is um has been

12:10in the planning stages and

12:12implementation stages for many years. It

12:15started in 2001

12:17um with the um master planning of the

12:21previous Corey site. Um so since that

12:25time about 2,000 residential units have

12:28been built out at Overlook Ridge Drive

12:31and part of that um initial planning

12:34phase required MEEPA review. So

12:37Environmental Protection Agency review

12:39since 1999. There have been a series of

12:42updates to that permitting. We're

12:45actually at notice of project change

12:46number five at this point which was

12:48issued in January 2024. Um, so the

12:53process to date specifically regarding

12:56this the relocation as Frank mentioned

12:58of Overlook Ridge Drive from its

13:00temporary location into its what will be

13:02its permanent location um started um if

13:06you go back putting Meepa aside for a

13:08minute in 2023

13:11the [clears throat] joint planning task

13:12force which um included representatives

13:15from both River and Malden approved the

13:17new drive location as it's proposed uh

13:20this evening.

13:21Um at the end of that same year, the

13:23city of Revier wrote a letter to Meepa

13:25supporting notice of project change five

13:27as well as the associated roadway

13:29improvements. Um we were also in

13:33parallel working with Mass Dot as Frank

13:35mentioned on permitting. Um because this

13:38requires a new state highway layout.

13:40It's quite an in-depth process with Mass

13:43Dot. So it required a 25% design

13:46submission which occurred in June of

13:492024

13:51followed then by a 75% design submission

13:54to Masdot which was um at the end of

13:57June of this year. Um I should mention

13:59that both of those design milestones

14:01were reviewed by River as well as Malden

14:05um because this project touches both

14:07municipalities. So we we were sure to

14:09have sign off before we submitted to

14:11MASDOT with those designs.

14:14We also held Wayne and I held a fire

14:18chief uh joint meeting um which I

14:20thought was an important milestone here

14:22back in March of 2025 to review the new

14:26design as well. So that all led us to um

14:30last month when we made this

14:32application. One of the requirements as

14:34part of the MASDOT permitting is that

14:37this little stretch of roadway, so

14:39parcel A1, be deemed public, and it's

14:42really because the the infrastructure

14:45that we're putting in that road just it

14:47needs to be in a public way. It requires

14:50um signalization. That's really the main

14:52driver behind it. will have um

14:54signalization for the fire station to

14:56allow them to eress in in a an emergency

15:00situation safely out onto Salem Street.

15:04So, I think I covered this one. I think

15:06the key from this slide is just that

15:08like I mentioned, we're on notice of

15:09project change number five, which did

15:11require this roadway redesign.

15:15The roadway redesign itself. What does

15:17that entail? So, it's essentially

15:19realigning Overlook Bridge Drive to meet

15:21Salem Street on the other side of the

15:23joint fire station. Um, it's the

15:26signalization of that same intersection

15:28with turn lanes widening pedestrian and

15:31bicycle accommodations as well as MBTA

15:33bus stops. Um to reiterate, the location

15:36of the the relocated Overlook Ridge

15:39Drive was approved in 2023 by the joint

15:42planning task force which was actually

15:44established back in 2001 when this

15:46master plan develops development um

15:48begun through the land recla reclamation

15:51agreement. Frank also mentioned this

15:53also relevant is that we do have a $4

15:55million massworks grant to fund the

15:58signalization and these transportation

15:59improvements. So, it's notable that

16:02neither city will have to pay for any of

16:04these improvements um since we have a

16:06grant for it. Um the signalization is

16:10necessary because it unlocks 617

16:13additional residential units on the

16:15remaining to be developed parcels at

16:17Overlook Ridge Drive. Um and it's

16:19notable because there are currently

16:21actually no affordable units out in

16:23Overlook Ridge Drive today. And this

16:24will add a significant number of

16:26affordable home ownership units as well

16:28as rental units. But the signal has to

16:31be done before we can actually build

16:32those.

16:35So the request um so you can see in the

16:38presentation actually on the cover sheet

16:40I highlighted parcel A1. So we are just

16:44asking tonight um that the board

16:46recommend to the city council that this

16:49parcel um be laid out as a public way.

16:53Um it will Oh, the other thing I should

16:56mention is obviously that um

17:00it will result in a safer intersection.

17:02This intersection has been studied

17:04widely and it's not currently very safe

17:07and I think everyone has experienced the

17:09traffic in that area. So the idea here

17:11is a much safer intersection with the

17:14signalization which helps with traffic

17:15queuing as well.

17:17Um, I mentioned the housing that it will

17:19unlock that no city funds will need to

17:21be expended. Um, there are some other

17:24community benefits that we put here just

17:26um that have been as a result of the

17:28master plan community. I don't need to

17:30spend a lot of time on that. Um, so I'll

17:33just flip back to this. This just gives

17:34you um the it's really the ANR plan that

17:38was approved um in both Rivere and in

17:41Molden because you can see the city line

17:42sort of um touches on the corner of

17:44parcel A1. So, it's really just what's

17:47highlighted in yellow that we are asking

17:49for action on tonight.

17:52The proposed intersection, like I

17:53mentioned, we have our transportation

17:55engineer here tonight if there are any

17:57questions, but it's really just a new

17:58signalized intersection, marked

18:00crosswalk, so an improved pedestrian

18:02experience, um bus stops um MBTA bus

18:06stops um on the road as well as um being

18:11coordinated with the Route One

18:12northbound um off-ramp and fire station.

18:15So that was important to make sure that

18:17coordination um happened way well ahead

18:20of the design.

18:23Um, so I don't need to um say this

18:26again, but it's really the layout now is

18:28what we're asking for. So this board to

18:30recommend that the city council layout

18:32parcel A1 is a public way. And that

18:34meeting is scheduled for October 26th.

18:37Um, and that will allow us to really

18:41utilize the Mass Works funds that we've

18:44been granted to improve this area. Um,

18:48this vote does not accept the road or

18:49the easement. just the recommendation to

18:51city council. Um and then ultimately

18:54city council would vote on the layout

18:56acceptance. We would be able to

18:57construct and signalize the new drive

18:59once we have full sign off from Mass DOT

19:01which we're in the process of obtaining

19:04and then we would ultimately return to

19:06the council for acceptance of a public

19:08access easement which would happen over

19:10parcel A1. So that's kind of how the

19:11sequence of events will happen.

19:14And that is it. That is the end of the

19:18presentation. Thank you. Does anybody

19:21have questions?

19:23>> Um, parcel A1, is that right now

19:26currently owned by Overlook Ridge since

19:28it's not a public way or

19:30>> Yes, it's it's owned by an Overlook

19:32Ridge entity.

19:33>> Okay.

19:38So, basically this is alone Salem

19:40Street, right? That's right. Is that

19:42correct?

19:42>> So, this is not the main entrance that

19:44you're talking about.

19:45>> Uh, it will be. So, it's not the current

19:48main entrance. The the current main

19:50entrance is actually like at the top of

19:53the plan. You can kind of see where it

19:54says it says drive. Um, but we are

19:58proposing to relocate it as part of this

20:01process.

20:04So that main entrance will be abandoned

20:06once [clears throat] this new driveway

20:08is driveway is completed and it's new

20:11roadway layout is completed and that

20:14space will now become uh developable for

20:18commercial development. I think what's

20:21proposed there is roughly 10,000 square

20:24feet of of commercial space.

20:27So there'll be a landscape buffer zone

20:29between Salem Street and this

20:30development and it would be accessed by

20:33the Overlook Ridge New Overlook Ridge

20:35Drive.

20:37>> So if you go to part um page seven, it

20:39it might actually identify it a little

20:41bit easier for you. So

20:44um I call it plan right. So all the way

20:47to the right of that plan is the current

20:49Overlook Ridge Drive location that will

20:51be abandoned as Frank just described to

20:54allow additional commercial development

20:56of 10,000 square feet in that area. And

20:59then the new intersection

21:02um is darker. It's kind of like in the

21:03middle of the plan on the other side of

21:05the fire station, if that makes sense.

21:11Uh Sam, a question has been brought up

21:13to me uh regarding the northbound ramp

21:17uh from Route One onto Salem Street and

21:20will that be signalized as part of this

21:23plan?

21:25>> Wayne, do you want to answer?

21:26>> The bottom of Salem Street.

21:31>> Hi guys. Uh Wayne Amo uh from VHB. For

21:34the record, uh yes, to answer Frank's

21:36question, that will be signalized. uh

21:38the intersection as proposed on sheet

21:40seven as Sam noted um there'll be a a

21:43signal uh on Salem Street and there'll

21:45be an emergency signal in front of the

21:47fire station on the new relocated

21:49Overlook Ridge Drive and all of those

21:51approaches would will have signalization

21:53and uh pedestrian uh accommodations. I

21:56bring that up because it removes what's

21:58currently a a severe safety hazard with

22:01traffic that coming off that ramp. Uh

22:03visibility and sight distance is very

22:05low and vehicles coming onto Salem

22:08Street from Route One [clears throat]

22:10conflict with vehicles heading uh west

22:13uh on Salem Street. So, it's a it's it's

22:16a another additional safety feature to

22:19this plan.

22:22Are you going to have railings for the

22:24pedestrians on the ramp?

22:26>> Railings?

22:27>> Yeah.

22:31>> Can you repeat the question?

22:33>> Would there be railings for pedestrian

22:35when they go down the ramp

22:37>> from Overlook Ridge?

22:38>> Yeah.

22:39>> Uh, no.

22:40>> There's no railings necessary based on

22:42the grade of the road.

22:47>> I'm a little confused. Maybe you can

22:49help me out. I always thought in front

22:51of the fire station

22:53it was North Salem Street and then Salem

22:57Street would be adjacent to Bennett

23:02Highway.

23:04That's the way I always thought it was.

23:05>> I think if I if u memory serves me

23:08correctly, North Salem is coming from

23:11Lynn

23:13and then it turns into Salem Street in

23:16this area at the town line.

23:19Does that make sense? Or

23:20>> from Lynn?

23:22>> Yeah,

23:22>> I'm stuck in Maldin. How did you get to

23:24Lynn?

23:25>> Sorry. From from the direction of Lynn.

23:27>> Oh, Lind Street.

23:28>> Lindsald

23:30Street.

23:31>> I thought he was talking about city of

23:32>> L. No, I I didn't say that correctly.

23:36>> All right. So, Lind Street. So, I know

23:40the you're coming out of Sus. You go by

23:43the fire station. That's North Salem.

23:45And then you go underneath the highway.

23:47Isn't that North Salem?

23:50>> No, Salem. Salem ends at the uh

23:53>> at the town line.

23:54>> Town line. Yeah. And then it picks up.

23:56It's Lind Street. So, it's the same

23:58continuous roadway, but it changes names

24:00from Salem to Lind Street as it crosses

24:03the town line.

24:03>> Sorry if I confused you, but I think

24:05>> don't ask me why.

24:09>> This the way it's it's right here. It's

24:11showing

24:13North Salem going to from the fire

24:16station towards Malden. And then if you

24:18want to go on the highway, that's Salem

24:20Street.

24:22>> Yeah. Because you're still in Revier.

24:24>> It's still Salem Street.

24:25>> Yeah. And not in Salem Street. If you go

24:28down Salem Street, you have cars coming.

24:32I believe you have cars coming off the

24:34highway and cars going on the highway.

24:37Is that what you're talking about? beast

24:40traffic controls.

24:42>> You don't have you don't have

24:43>> no

24:44>> Google maps.

24:45>> You familiar with the the site where

24:48where the fire station is now?

24:50>> Yeah. It says it's not Salem Street.

24:52>> Yes. Okay.

24:54>> Google Maps.

24:55>> That fire station driveway would now

24:56become Overlook Ridge Driveway.

25:00>> So, it not only accommodates the fire

25:02apparatus coming in and out of the site,

25:04it it accommodates

25:05>> that's it right there. all traffic going

25:07in and out of uh Overlook Ridge.

25:09>> We're going to try to bring up a map to

25:11go over this a little easier, but what

25:13Frank said is accurate. In essence,

25:16where the existing Overlook Ridge

25:17driveway is, where people are heading

25:19northbound, they take a left to go into

25:22Overlook. Now, that driveway will be

25:25abandoned. It'll be moved about 300 ft

25:27towards Route One.

25:29>> Okay?

25:30>> And there'll be a new intersection

25:31created there. the route one offbound

25:35ramp will be realigned slightly and

25:36there'll be a traffic signal put at that

25:38location.

25:39>> All right. Now,

25:42presently

25:44there is a

25:47there if you go if you're on route one

25:50and you want to go

25:52to overlook there is a down ramp that

25:55takes you more or less in front of the

25:57existing fire station.

25:58>> That's right. If you go further,

26:01probably another 50, 100 yards,

26:04people come on off of I'm calling it uh

26:07well, Salem Street, and you take a right

26:10and you go onto the highway.

26:12>> Correct.

26:13>> What is going to happen at that? That is

26:15also called Salem Street, isn't it?

26:18>> That um I think it's You may be right.

26:22Technically, I think it may actually be

26:24an extension of Salem Street that turns

26:26into Vining Street at the end.

26:28>> Yes. And so that roadway, that section

26:31of roadway and those ramps under this

26:32project will remain as they are.

26:35>> Nothing happening there because there's

26:37no real if you're going on the highway,

26:43people just there is no yellow light,

26:47red light, uh you just go on the

26:49highway,

26:50>> correct?

26:50>> And they there is no stopping there.

26:53Isn't that where most of the accidents

26:55happen that you're talking about? Um I'm

26:58not sure of the actual number of

27:00accidents but as part of this project uh

27:05the mitigation that was mandated by MEPA

27:08was to signalize this location. Um there

27:12is a future phase of the project if the

27:14cities decide to go forward that tries

27:16to alleviate some of the congestion on

27:18Route One and those existing ramps, but

27:20that's not what we hear about tonight.

27:22Tonight it's just the Salem Street at

27:25the re uh at the reoriented Overlook

27:27Ridge entrance.

27:29>> But when Overlook first came, when they

27:31took over Rose Quarry,

27:33if I remember correctly, wasn't there

27:35supposed to be an off-ramp that you had

27:38proposed to build?

27:40>> That's what I just referenced. There's a

27:41second phase of this project.

27:43>> It's now a second phase that was a

27:45primary phase when you first were

27:47looking for

27:48>> I I don't know all the history. Well, I

27:50would I would say it it's evolved

27:52through the MEEPA approvals. So, that

27:54may have been true, you know, back in

27:551999 when the initial MEPA certificate

27:58was issued. I'm not sure. I wasn't I

28:00wasn't working on the project at that

28:01time, but based on what I reviewed, I I

28:04do know that the mitigation has evolved

28:07as the project has evolved. Originally,

28:09Overlook Ridge was going to have more

28:11commercial space as an example. Now,

28:14it's more residential in nature. So,

28:16MEEP always analyzes how the projects

28:19change and and they tell you basically

28:21what the required mitigation is.

28:26>> If I can, the second phase is an a new

28:30interchange at the northern end of

28:32Overlook Ridge Drive in Malden. So, you

28:35know the curve as you come around Route

28:37One just before you hit Cappies

28:39>> where the Soio signs are with little

28:41billboards. There would be a new

28:43interchange there for

28:45>> so residents in Overlook Ridge Drive can

28:48get onto Route One North.

28:50>> When you say interchange, you going on

28:53route one on on off Route One into the

28:56site and onto Route One.

28:58>> So there is entrance and [music] exit.

29:00>> Okay. All right.

29:01>> Two separate ramps

29:02>> and that's on the second phase now.

29:04>> Yes.

29:05>> How how long ago how how long

29:07>> I can sort of speak to that.

29:09>> Okay.

29:10Um,

29:11>> sorry to bring it up.

29:12>> No, that look this is a 25 year and

29:15counting project jet so we understand.

29:18>> Um, so I I think the most relevant um,

29:22you know, piece to what you're asking is

29:25what happened in the most recent uh,

29:28MEEPA updates to the project by a

29:31project no project change followed by a

29:34certificate from MEPA working with DOT

29:36is it ended up splitting. So this came

29:38from MEPA and DOT. It sort of split the

29:40mitigation itself into two pairings with

29:46what would be developed and then the

29:48mitigation that would be tied to that

29:49phase of the development. And so what

29:51happened I think Sam mentioned 617

29:54units. So, in order to unlock this next

29:57phase of housing, the 617 units and then

30:00the 10,000 square feet of retail that

30:03Frank was describing that could

30:05ultimately be, you know, sort of on the

30:07far side of the fire station. The

30:09requirement, Meepa, called it local

30:11roadway improvements, even though it's

30:14actually a state highway layout. We'll

30:16just use their noclature. And so it's

30:18that is the phase that we're talking

30:21about now is in order to unlock the 617

30:25units of housing, the retail um at that

30:28intersection area, the all of this

30:30signalization, widening, reorienting of

30:33the roadways, that's what's required.

30:35And then if a um final or further phase

30:40of the project does come forward because

30:42there is still developable land on sort

30:45of the far end um you know we call it

30:49lot 15 but

30:50>> is that re or I'm sorry excuse me okay

30:53I'm sorry sorry sorry to interrupt you I

30:55just want to know where

30:56>> no no that's fine the the majority of

30:59the future you know final potential

31:02phase is in molden with roadway

31:06crossover into river. And so if the um

31:11developer or future developers of sort

31:14of the final piece that has been master

31:16plan approved comes forward and says I

31:19really do want to build this now then

31:21there is a requirement to do um the

31:25other sort of ramping um and roadway

31:28mitigation. So hopefully I made that

31:31better not worse.

31:33>> We're almost there. Let's go.

31:35>> So, how many units presently are

31:39are underneath the uh corporation real

31:42estate?

31:42>> It's it's about 1,900 units currently.

31:45>> And you're looking for phase two to be

31:48another 650.

31:50>> 617, right?

31:52>> 617.

31:53>> Yes.

31:53>> Okay.

31:54>> That's on three different development.

31:56So when you build

32:01well in order to get into the area for

32:05the 617 proposed units, will this phase

32:092 roadway be built or will it have to

32:13wait again until you finish the 617

32:16units?

32:18>> So we are allowed to build the 617 units

32:22under just the signalization. If we want

32:25to build over and above that 617, it

32:27would require the second phase that Jen

32:30described of the the on andoff ramps.

32:32>> And how many more units would be on the

32:34second phase?

32:36>> That um well, it unlocks a commercial

32:38building, an additional commercial

32:40building that would actually be in

32:41Malden

32:42as well as I want to say it's like I

32:45think 150.

32:47>> I was going to say 150. Let's say give

32:49or take 150 units are master plan

32:52approved at this point. Meepa approved

32:54but are not individually site planned

32:57approved. And then as Sam said there is

32:59a commercial lot uh that cannot be

33:02residential. It's been restricted. Um

33:05but sort of TBD what it might eventually

33:08be. What would it take to get more

33:12concrete answers on the uh signalization

33:17and what we were talking about for phase

33:19two to move it up? Uh right now it's

33:22still

33:25it never was built for over the,900

33:27units and it wasn't it's not going to be

33:30built with the 617 units

33:34and I always thought that was one of the

33:36most important parts of the proposal

33:39from the the beginning when you started

33:41taking over Rose.

33:44How long do we have to wait for that

33:46improvement?

33:49So tough tough question to answer um

33:53because I think it's a combination of

33:56and you probably remember this that this

33:59sort of all began with DOT having very

34:03grandiose visions of all the realignment

34:05of Route One everything that they wanted

34:07to do and then from the DOT

34:10perspective I mean and I can't say what

34:12led into their thinking but what we saw

34:15and experienced was oh no we're not

34:17going to do that we're going to do

34:18something else. And then it became this.

34:21And then DOT over the course of the last

34:24three, four years, they have been solely

34:26focused and will only talk to us about

34:28the Salem Street intersection with what

34:31will be Overlook Ridge Drive. And so I

34:35can't say from do the DOT piece of it of

34:38what it will take for them to even say

34:42if they still would approve

34:45um new on and off ramps [clears throat]

34:46to their highway. I I don't know because

34:49they will not talk to us about anything

34:51other than what is in front of them

34:53right now. uh from the development

34:55perspective it's I am going to presume

34:58it's market driven of when and if a

35:01commercial development can be absorbed

35:03um you know or [snorts] sort of

35:05supported there and whether there is any

35:09desire by a developer and the cities to

35:13want further an additional housing in

35:15the site

35:16>> the last thing I would mention is also

35:19the funding of the roadway improvements

35:21um we as I mentioned we have a grant

35:24um from the state to construct the

35:28roadway improvements [clears throat] at

35:29the intersection of Salem Street, but

35:31this would require a f you know further

35:34significant grant because there is a lot

35:36of ledge in that area where the on

35:39andoff ramps would would occur at the

35:41end of Overlook Ridge Drive. So I think

35:43the funding is another relevant piece to

35:46the p of the puzzle

35:48>> and that will be on on Malden's side,

35:51right?

35:52>> That's right. Yes, that's right. So as

35:54of right now what you're saying is that

35:56first you got to relocate the entrance

36:00and after that you will work on the

36:0210,000 square feet of uh retail.

36:05>> That's right. Yes.

36:05>> And then from there you will go to the

36:08300 something units

36:1115. Is that is that correct?

36:13>> Actually the 10,000 square feet of

36:14retail and the 617 additional units can

36:18happen in tandem. So

36:20>> 1700 is that what you're saying?

36:23>> 67.

36:25Yeah.

36:25>> Where is that going to go exactly?

36:27>> I can show I can actually pull that up.

36:29So there is Is it okay if I

36:31>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

36:32>> Okay. Go ahead.

36:39This is the current

36:45drive the relocite

36:59and then another

37:04which will be 310 units of residential

37:09and then the remaining develop

37:13and this is where the on and off

37:16if it happens.

37:19>> Yeah, but you you're saying 17 I mean

37:21617

37:23>> that will go you're talking about that

37:25on the last part of Rivia is only 310.

37:28So where's the other 37?

37:31So it's three buildings. It would be one

37:34here, one here and then one

37:37approximately here. And those are being

37:39done by wind.

37:48>> So that'll be done by when and this one

37:50will be done by who?

37:51>> So currently it's

37:56that is proposing it.

37:59They may build it. I don't know. I

38:01actually don't know when.

38:05>> All right. And the other thing that now

38:07that you have that open then we can use

38:08it. So what he was talking about

38:10earlier, right, is when you go on route

38:12one and you take that exit to go into

38:15the overlock when you come down the ramp

38:17that's facing maybe directly to the fire

38:20department. And then what is it like

38:23about uh maybe 60 uh feet? That's what

38:26the other entrance is going to be.

38:28Relocated.

38:28>> It's about right here.

38:30>> Yeah. Now, when you go down the ramp,

38:32they're going to put a signal in there

38:33or anything like that.

38:35>> Which exit is this now?

38:37>> So, wait, I don't know if you know it by

38:39sight. So,

38:44>> oh, so overlook is on the right.

38:46>> Yes.

38:46>> And the current entry

38:48>> is right up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

38:52specific question. It's probably easier

38:54to refer to this on

38:58this show.

39:00>> We try to look at it. It's kind of

39:01small.

39:05>> Are your monitors on on your desk?

39:07>> Mine?

39:07>> Yeah,

39:08>> it is on.

39:09>> No, no, I mean your monitor. So, can you

39:11see what I

39:12>> No,

39:16>> I can see on this one.

39:22I don't think it's working. Oh, it just

39:24came up. Thank you.

39:26>> Which button, Chris?

39:28>> The last one to the right.

39:30[clears throat] So, if if you look at

39:32sheet seven,

39:35um to the right part of that plan sheet,

39:40let's call it, you see some dash lines

39:43going up to the left. That's where the

39:45existing Overlook Bridge Drive is now.

39:48>> Right. The proposal is to relocate that

39:51about 300 ft to the left where you see

39:53the vertical lines going straight up

39:55from Salem Street

39:56>> on the other side of the fire

39:57department. Right.

39:57>> On the other side of the fire station.

39:59Correct.

39:59>> Fire station. Yes.

40:00>> Slightly realign the northbound offramp

40:03to Salem Street and put a signal at that

40:05location. So all of those act all of the

40:08approaches will be signalized and the

40:10fire station will have its own emergency

40:12signal and they'll be connected. The two

40:14signals will be connected.

40:17All right,

40:22>> Frank, if you can explain this to them.

40:25This is where I'm interested in. Please,

40:28I'm sorry,

40:31my days are hopping over

40:34>> here is the fire station.

40:38>> Then when you take this right, this is

40:40the area right here. The these

40:45is that going to be redone? Is that

40:46phase two right here? See how you This

40:50is how you get back on the highway.

40:52>> That would be eliminated.

40:54>> That's going to be eliminated

40:55>> once the new interchange is to the north

40:58of the site

40:59>> as part of phase two. As part of phase

41:01two, that would be eliminated.

41:02>> All right. So, how far down is this

41:04inter

41:07the interchange going to be?

41:10>> You mean the new entrance? So, this one

41:12is going to be eliminated

41:13>> as part of the phase two where there's a

41:15new offramp and a new onramp to Route

41:17One Northbound.

41:18>> Okay.

41:18>> Those two ramps will come up.

41:20>> All right.

41:23And you're going to be down here

41:24further.

41:24>> Yeah. If you zoom out a little bit, I

41:26can show you. I don't want to touch the

41:27screen. I'll probably

41:28>> Frank, can you move to to the left or

41:30the right so we can see?

41:31>> Same.

41:33>> So,

41:35the new ramp will come like this.

41:37>> Yeah.

41:38>> To the end of Overlook.

41:39>> Okay. from the end overlook and come up

41:41here right before um

41:43>> the cappies.

41:44>> I got it.

41:45>> Okay. Okay.

41:46>> And then when those are once those are

41:48open, these ramps will be removed. This

41:52road will be maintained because it has

41:54residential access. But that will

41:56basically be a dead end.

41:57>> Okay.

42:00So to go back to her question when she

42:02was our statement

42:04um that there's a lot of ledge in this

42:06area which there is.

42:09Do you presently blast or do you chip

42:12chip away or hammer it?

42:14>> Um,

42:16>> it probably depends on the condition.

42:17Yeah,

42:18>> sometimes the whole ram can take it out.

42:20Others other times there'll be blasting.

42:23Realize that's all next to Route One.

42:25>> If phase two goes forward, that'll all

42:27be removed under Mass D's supervision.

42:30There'll be separate blasting permits

42:32through the state and through the fire

42:34marshall local, you know, in this case

42:36probably Maldiny and Reier. uh fire

42:39chief plus the state fire marshal um

42:42rolling roadblocks etc. if blasting

42:44happens there

42:46>> I can add a lot has already been removed

42:48if you go inside the quarry and see how

42:51low it is compared to what it used to be

42:53it's almost at the same elevation as

42:55route one except for that ledge in front

42:58of it.

42:58>> That's right. [clears throat] What will

43:00happen as as part of those ramps if they

43:02go forward is u based on the the grade

43:05at route one if you're driving up there

43:08you can see that the ledge outcrop that

43:09Sam is referring to and as Frank just

43:12noted the site is much lower than that

43:14basically the proposal would be to like

43:16cut a channel through that where the

43:18ramp is going in both on both the north

43:21northbound off and on ramp

43:26>> and I I think it's something like 25

43:28acres that was donated by uh the

43:31developer for the construction of this

43:33interchange.

43:35So uh that saved a lot of money on the

43:38state level because they wouldn't have

43:39to purchase it to construct this

43:41interchange.

43:42>> Sam has a good picture up here if you

43:43look guys look at the screen. Right. So

43:45this is directly at the end of Overlook

43:47Ridge now to the left.

43:51Is it a touch? No.

43:52>> Molden. All right.

43:53>> Yeah,

43:53>> it's Molden.

43:54>> Yeah. So to the left, that northbound

43:57off-ramp would be coming through that

44:00ledge outcrop that you see there in the

44:02distance, and then it would meet where

44:03we were just standing at the end of

44:05these container boxes. Um,

44:07>> you can see the height differential,

44:08[music]

44:08>> correct? And then the on-ramp to to

44:12route one would come from here and go

44:14through that ledge out crop that Sam is

44:16zooming to now, right where that front

44:18end loader is, and then connect into

44:20route one.

44:20>> And that's in this new proposal, or is

44:22that on the phase two? That's phase two.

44:24>> That's that's phase two.

44:26>> All right. So phase two will mostly be

44:31[clears throat] continued or accelerated

44:33because of economic conditions probably.

44:36>> Well, and I think it's also that MASDOT

44:38is looking at them as like two separate

44:40permit projects. So currently we're just

44:43moving forward with the phase one

44:46permitting. At such time that we decide

44:49we want or we need to move forward with

44:51phase two, we would go through this

44:53whole permitting exercise with MASDOT

44:55again. So submitting the 25% design,

44:58fitting uh submitting the 75% design and

45:01then ultimately the final design prior

45:03to construction.

45:06>> So that will be more than

45:09>> that's right. The majority is

45:11>> the majority of it

45:12>> some of it is in rever because part of

45:14that phase two proposal would be to

45:16slightly widen um Overlook Ridge from

45:19where these improvements stop down near

45:21Salem Street up to these new ramps. So

45:24there'd be a little bit of work in both

45:25in both.

45:26>> And just one uh one other final

45:29point of interest. So with the proposed

45:32you have 1,900 units now and you're uh

45:36looking for with this other

45:39uh change that you 617 not counting

45:42another 150. Where is all the sewer

45:46going? Which way is

45:48>> Malden?

45:49>> This is all going to Malden. It's going

45:50down Salem Street.

45:52>> They have a designated trunk store going

45:55to Malden. Ria system cannot handle.

45:58>> No, there's a lot. The agreement has

46:00been that it goes to Malden which is

46:02closer to the MWR.

46:03>> They can handle this

46:04>> connection.

46:06I can't speak for Malden. It's

46:09>> they have told us that they can.

46:11>> Um we we've undergone site plan approval

46:14with Malden for many of the new units in

46:18question and the sewer capacity is not

46:21an issue.

46:23>> So sewer and water is through Malden.

46:27Does Baldin have a pumping station,

46:29Frank, I think, or does it have some

46:30kind of sewer works?

46:33>> Yeah.

46:36>> Yeah. Our pumping station up there could

46:38not handle the additional

46:40>> flow.

46:42Very good.

46:42>> If you're familiar with the area,

46:45>> you know that our trunk saw goes

46:48up from that area. The saw force man

46:50goes underneath the seplane basin

46:54>> to not you know we have a C plane basin.

47:00So

47:02the the bottom line is that this is

47:05important to to Rever and Malden and to

47:10the development because uh it uh it's a

47:14major improvement over the existing

47:16conditions of that dangerous

47:17intersection that's not unsalized

47:20and moving that driveway entrance

47:23further west or south uh takes it

47:27further away from that nasty curve and

47:29on Salem Street as you're coming from

47:31SUS coming around that curve which is as

47:35soon as you come around the curve you're

47:36right there at the entrance drive right

47:38now. Uh and there's been some accidents

47:41there that have been severe. So now you

47:43have cars slowing down because you have

47:45an intersection that's signalized and

47:48you have an organized driveway entrance

47:50going into the site.

47:54I'd like to thank you for your patience

47:56for this is a new board and we're just

47:58trying to get familiar with some of the

48:00the areas and especially when it's

48:03partly in Saras, partly in Malden,

48:05partly in Ver. But thank you very much

48:08for being patient.

48:10>> When it comes to the retail space, do

48:12you know exactly what's going to go in

48:13there?

48:14>> We don't know yet, but it'll be about

48:1610,000 square feet of retail. It's laid

48:19out um conceptually as two approximately

48:245,000 square foot buildings um you know

48:27more or less side by side which sort of

48:30hits the right size for whether it's a

48:34moderate size convenience store

48:37um or a restaurant cleaner things like

48:41that they when we went through review on

48:44that the commitment was to figure out

48:47what the community needs and

48:49That would be the obvious choice of

48:51built because they would like their

48:52retail to be utilized.

48:55>> Thank you.

48:59>> Okay.

49:00>> Thank you.

49:03>> Are ready to make a motion for roll?

49:10>> So, right now we're looking for a

49:11recommendation to the city council. I I

49:13I can tell you that uh the fire chief,

49:17the TBW superintendent and the city

49:18engineer have reviewed these plans

49:20thoroughly with U BHB and the proponent

49:25and a lot of things have been worked out

49:27and everybody's in agreement now and

49:29this is the plan that they've approved.

49:32>> Great. Okay. Thank you.

49:40So, we have a a motion to favor

49:42recommend this to the city council

49:45public layout.

49:46>> Yes.

49:47>> Second.

49:48>> Motion by Mr. Abrams. Second.

49:50>> Yes.

49:51>> Second,

49:52>> Mr.

49:53Rivera

49:58on the motion. Mr. Abrams.

50:00>> Yes.

50:01>> Yes. Mr. Cassandra is absent. Miss

50:03Hoffman,

50:04>> yes.

50:05>> Yes. Mr. Rivera,

50:07>> yes.

50:08>> Miss Simmons Hurling,

50:09>> yes.

50:10>> Miss Dematopoulos is absent. Mr.

50:12Sullivan,

50:12>> yes.

50:13>> Okay. Vote and so audited. A

50:15recommendation will go to the city

50:16council and you're scheduled to go

50:19before the city council when?

50:20>> October 26.

50:22>> October 26. Okay.

50:25All right.

50:28That ends the public hearing

50:31>> segment. Thank you.

50:34>> We're all set. Motion to adjourn.

50:37>> We're going to regular meeting. We just

50:38need approval of previous meeting

50:40minutes, I think.

50:41>> Perfect.

50:49>> Mr. Rivera can sign them

50:53on the regular meeting minutes.

50:55>> Yeah.

50:57for the was that it the ocean a project

51:00that I I wanted those things inserted

51:04that I forwarded

51:06>> for the meeting meeting minutes.

51:16>> So there was a motion made by myself and

51:18Mr. Sansza that the board grant the uh

51:22and consent to 1290 Northshore Road.

51:26>> Y

51:26>> and we have I think seven things that we

51:30all talked about the proposal on owner

51:32development and if we can have I believe

51:36they did not put their names when they

51:38first came here. We don't really have it

51:40on the minutes

51:42exactly who they were

51:45and the soundproofing to be added.

51:47That's number two. The traffic drop off

51:50plan to be recommended. Front entrance

51:53of Wonderland station plan.

51:56How they get in and out. Parking plan

51:58for the building. What was it? 190. How

52:01many units?

52:03>> 310.

52:04>> 310. I'm sorry.

52:06>> A trash room that we talked about and

52:07trash collection plan.

52:09>> Mechanical.

52:10>> I didn't I didn't have it on there, but

52:12yes, we can put mechanical. We did talk

52:14about it. and the final approval of

52:16occupancy requirements.

52:18>> And the other thing, Frank, have they

52:20had conversations with the T station?

52:24>> Do they have

52:25>> the developer and the T station? Did

52:27they have ongoing conversations?

52:29>> Yes, because they the the parking for

52:33this development is only 90 parking

52:35spaces residents. So, they're going to

52:37have to park at the T-station lot, which

52:40means that it's not going to be free.

52:42they're going to have to pay to park

52:44there.

52:46So if you have a car and you don't have

52:47a parking spot, you either have to pay

52:50for a parking space daily or rely on the

52:54tea and not have a car. And that's the

52:57intent here is a transit oriented

52:58development that more people will use

53:00public transportation have

53:03>> the papers parking spot if it's in the

53:05tad or not.

53:10But there will be valet parking under

53:12the current proposal for the residents

53:14to park underneath the building.

53:16>> So can you include those seven things

53:18that I

53:19>> Absolutely. Well, I I'll add those in.

53:22>> Thank you.

53:23>> Thank you.

53:25>> Oh. Uh just add in mechanical. I I I

53:28forgot I can put that in that you talked

53:29about

53:29>> if you have it here. I'll add uh

53:31>> with the trash room if you could just

53:33write in mechanical.

53:34>> Okay. Sorry about that.

53:38Those

53:43will be added to the minutes.

53:48Um there's no other further business.

53:52We can adjourn the meeting.

53:53>> Okay. Motion to adjourn. Second.

53:56>> Meeting adjourned.