2026-09-28 - City Council

00:44Good evening and welcome to the Rever

00:46City Council meeting of September 28th,

00:492026. All rise and salute the flag,

00:52please. I pledge allegiance to the flag

00:54of the United States of America and to

00:57the republic for which it stands. One

01:00nation under God, indivisible, with

01:03liberty and justice for all.

01:08>> Roll club the members. Councelor Arenzio

01:11>> here.

01:11>> Here. Councelor Cogleandro

01:13>> here.

01:13>> Here. Council Janino

01:14>> here.

01:15>> Here. Councelor Gino SA

01:16>> here.

01:17>> Here. Councelor H

01:18>> here.

01:18>> Here. Councelor Kelly

01:19>> here.

01:20>> Here. Council McKenna

01:21>> here.

01:21>> Here. Council mccurio

01:22>> here.

01:23>> Here. Council novelski

01:24>> here.

01:25>> Here. Council Sylvester

01:26>> here. And council president Zambudo

01:28>> here.

01:28>> Here. Quorum is present.

01:32>> Approval of the minutes of the August

01:3524th and September 14th meetings of the

01:37city council.

01:38>> So move.

01:39>> All in favor? All opposed. So audited.

01:44>> I'm going uh

01:45>> Mr. President, point of personal

01:47privilege, please.

01:48>> Yeah, I have one before you, sir.

01:49>> Okay. Thank you.

01:50>> Okay. Uh, councelor Garina SA.

01:53>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um,

01:56I heard some sad news today. Um, prayers

01:59go out to Craig Castanza um, who

02:02suffered a medical emergency while he

02:04was on vacation. Um, he is out

02:09in um, the Lewisville Hospital right now

02:13in Indiana. And um, luckily he had his

02:16family there when this occurred. and

02:18he's on the mend. Um hopefully within

02:20the next couple of weeks we'll hear some

02:22good good news. Um and prayers go out to

02:25him. Also um another announcement. This

02:28was requested from a river resident. Um

02:31I'd like to highlight the CVI awareness

02:34day on September 29th which is tomorrow

02:36at the Massachusetts State House. Um,

02:39this effort raises awareness for

02:41brainbased

02:43visual impairment and the need for early

02:45diagnosis and support for children and

02:48families. Thank you.

02:50>> Thank you, Council Council Mcurio.

02:52>> Thank you, Mr. President. Uh, I just

02:54want to a big thank you and a big shout

02:56out to a shout out to the DCR uh for

02:59this past storm, the Norrisa that we

03:01had. They worked around the clock from

03:04uh early Friday morning until uh

03:06probably this morning keeping the storm

03:08drains clean on uh Winthrop Parkway. Did

03:10a they did a great job. Joan McKenna and

03:13I were uh monitoring them throughout the

03:15storm. We visit them uh on several

03:17occasions during the high tides. Uh I

03:19just want to say thank you for all the

03:21hard work and it kept all the flooding

03:22down in the Beachmont area. Thank you,

03:25Mr. President.

03:26>> Thank you uh councelor. That's uh great

03:28news because that's not the news we used

03:30to get. So, I'm very pleased to hear

03:32that that uh they were keeping an eye. I

03:35know I saw the mayor out there with

03:37boots on and a and a rake and stuff, but

03:40so he was helping out. Uh

03:42>> Mr. President, Mr. President, like I

03:46>> thank you very much. Um I'd like to

03:48extend that thank you to our own revered

03:51DPW. They did a great job during the

03:53storm. Um I didn't have too much uh

03:55problems in my area, but the problems

03:57that I did have, a few limbs came down.

03:59They responded in minutes. Uh so I want

04:02to say uh thank you to them and a shout

04:04out. Thank you.

04:07>> That's great. We we should be thanking

04:09our own DPW and all the workers. They're

04:12out there and keeping us all safe. Uh

04:14thank you to everybody. Uh you done?

04:18>> You got something else? Council Gorino

04:20Sai. [laughter]

04:21>> I'd like to echo on that and also thank

04:23the DPW and thank them for putting the

04:24sandbags at the top of Harrington

04:26because it really did help. Thank you.

04:29>> Great. Now, and I think we'll move on

04:31here now. Um, did you have something?

04:33No. Council. Okay. Thank you.

04:38Uh, we're going to start off with a

04:39suspension of the rules. All in favor?

04:41All opposed?

04:45That was for the purpose of taking up

04:46calendar item number 15, communication

04:48from the CFO requesting a bond

04:50authorization in the amount of 16

04:52million $500,000 for the Wonderland

04:54eminent domain taking agreement for

04:57judgment.

04:58>> Mr. Mayor,

05:00>> thank you Mr. President, honorable

05:01council. I'm here with the CFO and uh

05:03you can see the appropriation request. I

05:05we gave a brief update uh in the last

05:08council meeting uh to the council in an

05:11executive session to discuss the options

05:13that we had on the table for a

05:15settlement agreement with CVW lending as

05:18as mentioned the following day uh with

05:21with a I guess a straw poll of approval.

05:24we were able to sign that agreement and

05:25uh we're coming for the official bond

05:27authorization so we can execute the

05:29first payment uh effective tomorrow and

05:32then the second payment would be within

05:3360 days uh to fulfill our end of the of

05:36the bargain. Uh but this is um I know

05:39that the CFO gave you some information

05:41on the project and where it stands as

05:42far as the savings and how those will be

05:44applied to the additional costs for the

05:46taking. Uh so we're still under under

05:49the budget and uh and really good

05:51financial standing for the project as a

05:52whole, but most importantly, we're

05:54really past this uh that stage of

05:58worrying about uh a court judgment that

06:01could be um really painful. So we're

06:03happy to to move on and and and continue

06:05building the school and and have it

06:06ready for uh our students and families

06:09in the next couple years.

06:10>> Great. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Appreciate

06:12it. This will be going to a uh

06:16public hearing on October 26th.

06:22Back to the regular order of business.

06:26The city council will award a

06:28certificate of commendation to Anthony

06:29Pio in recognition of his extraordinary

06:32compassion, vigilance, and quickthinking

06:34actions he took on September 4th to

06:36bring aid to a senior resident and in

06:38recognition of his ongoing dedication to

06:40the senior citizens of the city of

06:41Rivier.

06:44>> [applause]

06:52>> Congratulations.

07:08>> Congratulations,

07:11>> Anthony.

07:12It's an honor to present this

07:14commendation to you tonight. What stands

07:16out to me is that you noticed something

07:18wasn't right. You cared enough to act.

07:22for that resident and her loved ones.

07:25Your kindness made all the difference.

07:27And as you can see, she is here in the

07:29audience today. We are grateful to have

07:31you serving our community. And this

07:34recognition is so welld deserved.

07:37Certificate of commendation. In

07:40recognition of your extraordinary

07:42compassion, vigilance, quick thinking,

07:44and unwavering dedication to the senior

07:46citizens of the city of River, special

07:49recognition is hereby accorded to

07:51Anthony Pio. On September 4th, 2026,

07:55while performing your duties with River

07:58Elder Affairs, your attentiveness to

08:00genuine and genuine concern for a senior

08:03resident who was absent from her

08:06regularly scheduled transportation

08:08prompted you to check on her well-being.

08:11>> [snorts]

08:11>> Your actions led to the discovery that

08:14she had fallen inside her home and was

08:17unable

08:19to sum summons help.

08:22Through your immediate response,

08:24emergency services were contacted,

08:26allowing her to receive immediate

08:28medical attention. Your actions went

08:31above and beyond the extraordinary

08:33responsibilities of your position and

08:35exemplify the highest standards of

08:38public service. The city of River,

08:42the city council, I'm sorry, proudly

08:45commends you for treating the members of

08:48your senior community not simply as

08:51residents you serve, but in your own

08:54words, your family.

08:57The certificate accommodation presented

08:58by the city council of the city of

09:00Rivier, Massachusetts on behalf of its

09:02citizens this 28th day of September in

09:05the year of our Lord 2026 and of the

09:08independence of the United States of

09:10America, the 250th.

09:13Congratulations.

09:15[applause]

09:21[applause]

09:25>> [applause]

09:29>> Um,

09:31>> uh, thank you so much. Uh, I'm at a loss

09:34for words. At the end of the day, uh,

09:37every single person that I drive, that I

09:40meet, that I talk to every day is like

09:42family. Um,

09:45Rita, you've helped me so much that I'm

09:48glad to have helped you. Thank you.

09:52>> [applause]

09:56[applause]

11:42>> Public hearings calendar item number

11:43four. Hearing call is ordered on the

11:46application of Clayson Sonalia 52 Fair

11:48View Street, Winthrop, Mass, requesting

11:50a chapter 148 license from the Reier

11:53City Council to operate a special garage

11:55for the purpose of conducting the

11:57business of an auto body shop at 535

11:59Broadway.

12:02This is a public hearing. We'll hear

12:04from proponents.

12:06People in favor.

12:08Proponents.

12:11Nobody's here.

12:15>> That's you. Okay. Name and address for

12:18the record, please.

12:20>> Uh Clay Sanagla, 529 Broadway, Rivia,

12:23Massachusetts.

12:27>> What do you What do you want to do? Oh,

12:29so you tell us about

12:30>> I'm sorry. We apply for a special permit

12:34for this uh portion of a property for

12:36auto body. It just extended uh the

12:38business where we body shop. So we have

12:41an extra space and we're looking for um

12:43a permit for this special um extra

12:47space.

12:47>> So this is a this is an existing auto

12:50body. This is an existing garage that

12:52you're adding an auto body.

12:53>> No, it's existing auto body.

12:55>> It's an auto body now. So you're putting

12:56an addition on it. Okay.

12:58>> Yes. Yes. Well,

12:59>> well, it's kind of that's not what the

13:01That's

13:02>> Well, it's kind of like Well,

13:02>> you're here for the license for the Is

13:04that what it You're just here for the

13:08special week.

13:10>> Yeah. Okay. No, this is just this is

13:12just a gasoline license.

13:14>> Yeah. Okay.

13:14>> Uh All right. Thank you. Any other

13:17proponents? People in favor hearing and

13:20seeing none, we'll close that side of

13:21the hearing. Any opponents?

13:24Hearing and seeing none, we'll close

13:25that side of the hearing. Any councils?

13:27Councelor Cogleandro.

13:29>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um

13:30[clears throat] I believe, and correct

13:32me if I'm wrong, Mr. Smaglia, this is

13:34just housekeeping. When he has two

13:36different types of businesses in there,

13:38>> and it it turned out that he did need

13:40this second one,

13:42>> this second chapter 148 license, if I'm

13:44being correct,

13:45>> or or actually there was never one.

13:48Granted, they allowed him to operate

13:50those. So, this is just kind of

13:51housekeeping for him to get this up and

13:53>> be official. So, I'm favor.

13:55>> I get it. I get it. And I should have

13:56read it more uh closely and to the

13:59people so they knew what we were doing

14:01here. And I apologize for that. But

14:04we're in good shape here. Okay. Uh

14:06anyone else?

14:13Where am I?

14:24Call the role, please.

14:27>> Shall the city council grant a chapter

14:29148 license for the purpose of

14:30conducting a special garage auto body

14:32only, no repair in accordance with the

14:34special permit formerly granted at 535

14:36Broadway. Councelor Aenzio,

14:39>> yes.

14:39>> Yes. Councelor Cogandro,

14:41>> yes.

14:41>> Yes. Councelor Jino,

14:42>> yes.

14:43>> Yes. Council Gino SA.

14:44>> Yes.

14:45>> Yes. Councelor H.

14:46>> Yes.

14:46>> Yes. Councelor Kelly,

14:48>> yes. Yes. Councel McKenna.

14:49>> Yes.

14:50>> Yes. Council Mccario.

14:51>> Yes.

14:51>> Yes. Council Novaski.

14:53>> Yes.

14:53>> Yes. Councel Sylvestri.

14:54>> Yes.

14:55>> Yes. And council president Sambutoo.

14:57>> Yes.

14:57>> Yes. The chapter 148 license for 534 535

15:01Broadway has been approved.

15:03>> Congratulations.

15:04Oh, sir.

15:06>> Calendar [clears throat] item number

15:07five. Hearing call is ordered on an

15:09ordinance further amending section

15:1112.04.280

15:14street closure notice of the river

15:15revised ordinances.

15:18This is a public hearing. Any

15:19proponents?

15:23Hearing and seeing none, we're going to

15:24close that side of the hearing. Any

15:25opponents?

15:28Hearing and seeing none, we'll close

15:29that side of the hearing. Counselors.

15:32Councelor Cleandro.

15:34>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um, this is an

15:36update to this uh this ordinance that

15:39was already in place. Originally, it

15:40was, I believe, 48 hours to the fire

15:43chief only. We are updating it to be 24

15:46hours notice, adding uh the fire chief

15:49is there. We're adding the chief of

15:51police as well as the city council. We

15:53just want to be notified when roads are

15:54being closed so we have answers for our

15:56constituents. Thank you.

15:59>> Anyone else? Council Council

16:03Kelly. Okay. Council McKenna.

16:05>> Thank you, uh, Mr. President. So, I just

16:07want to say that um since we put this

16:09in, uh Cogley, uh Councelor Cogleandro

16:12and I, uh the communication is getting a

16:16little bit better. Uh I've noticed it on

16:18email and I'm sure the other counselors

16:20have noticed it, too. Um so, I just want

16:23to say that it's working. Well, it's

16:26starting to work, so hopefully it will

16:28work 100%. Thank you.

16:30>> Great. Congratulations, Councelor Kelly.

16:34>> Thank you. Um I'm in support of this,

16:36but I just have a question. Um how is

16:39the mechanism identified as to how

16:41exactly the city council will be

16:43notified? Is that going to be a

16:45notification to the city clerk and then

16:47the city clerk will um forward that to

16:49us or will we be notified directly?

16:52>> Councelor Cleandro, you want to answer

16:53that for me?

16:54>> Yeah, that's actually a good question

16:55because it's not specified in the

16:57ordinance. Um, I would assume [snorts]

16:58that the same way that we get notified

17:01for water mane breaks would be

17:04a a good idea. You know, if we could add

17:06that in that they notify us via email.

17:09>> Um, I think that would be sufficient. If

17:11anyone disagrees, let me know. But I

17:13think that's we can make an amendment

17:15now.

17:16>> Good. Thank you.

17:18>> Work out in details out on zoning.

17:22>> Anything else, Council Kelly? No.

17:24>> Thank you. Um,

17:28your fears,

17:35legislative affairs

17:39[snorts]

17:41calendar item number six, hearing called

17:42is ordered on an ordinance furthering

17:44amending the zoning ordinances of the

17:45city of Riviera relative to body art

17:47establishments.

18:06Thank you, Mr. President. Um, this was

18:09something that was missed prior and the

18:12original modification of this ordinance.

18:14We're now removing the necessity to have

18:17to be 500 ft [clears throat] from a

18:19place of worship or a school, etc. So,

18:21thank you.

18:22>> Okay. Anybody else?

18:25This one's going to zoning

18:30>> calendar item number seven. Hearing

18:31called is ordered on an ordinance

18:33further amending the revised ordinances

18:35of the city of River relative to tree

18:36preservation.

18:40>> Public hearing proponents.

18:46Name and address for the record, please.

18:50>> Stephanie Disto 7 Reservoir Avenue. I

18:54have four mature mature trees in my yard

18:57that were already there and growing when

18:59my parents bought the house 67 years

19:01ago. So, I'm in support of having a tree

19:05preservation ordinance because we really

19:08need it in this city. Now, we have a new

19:11wave of homeowners that have come in

19:12over the past six, seven, eight years

19:15and these folks are coming from

19:16communities where they have no green

19:18space. There are no trees. There's no

19:21sideyard, rear yard, there's no street

19:23trees, and there are no driveways.

19:26So, needless to say, the paramount thing

19:29for them when they first move in here is

19:31to get rid of every green space and pave

19:34it over to create driveways for

19:36themselves. And I have even seen some

19:39people um paving over their rear yards

19:43and striping them. So, they have many

19:45parking lots in the rear of their houses

19:49and I can understand why this is

19:52happening. However,

19:56it is out of control.

19:59When I first heard about this ordinance,

20:02I had that initial knee-jerk reaction

20:05that practically everybody probably had.

20:08What? The city's going to tell me what I

20:10can do on my own private property?

20:13I was very skeptical until three things

20:15happened. I saw the images of what those

20:18people did up in Beachmont and left a

20:21blight on their neighborhood.

20:24Second, when I got a copy of the

20:25ordinance and read it for myself to see

20:27what it said and what it didn't say. And

20:30third, when I had to realize that my

20:34knee-jerk response about the city and

20:37private property

20:39was a nonstarter.

20:42Because the reality is is that the city

20:46can and does tell

20:49property owners what they can and cannot

20:52do on their private property. We have

20:55ordinances of every kind

20:58that dictate what property owners can

21:01and can't do. We have zoning. We have we

21:04have building. We have health and safety

21:07vehicle. We have noise ordinances of

21:09every kind that regulate what property

21:12owners can and can't do. For an example,

21:14I have two unregistered vehicles. This

21:16is theoretical. I have two unregistered

21:19vehicles that I want to park on on my

21:23property outside. I cannot do that

21:26because the city tells me you can't turn

21:29your pro private property into a storage

21:33place for unregistered vehicles if

21:35they're outside.

21:37Another thing is if if I want to let my

21:40grass grow five feet tall because I like

21:42the look or I want to leave trash

21:45scattered all around uh in plastic bags

21:49on my yard, the city will tell me, "You

21:52cannot do this even though it's your

21:54private property. If I want to have

21:56parties until 3:00 in the morning and

21:59[clears throat] blast the noise, I can't

22:01do that."

22:01>> All right, Mr. No, I think I think we've

22:04got the point,

22:04>> right? But I I have something else that

22:06I want to share.

22:08>> Make it quick, please. What's that?

22:13>> Listen,

22:15>> you know what? You're out of order.

22:16>> And a tree pres

22:17>> I'm out of order.

22:18>> A tree preservation ordinance is not

22:20going to be any different than that. And

22:23for people who feel as though this is

22:25unconstitutional, don't worry because

22:27multiple communities and towns have

22:29already adopted ordinances. I would only

22:31offer two comments with respect to the

22:34proposed ordinance. The fee schedule for

22:37payment in lie of planting a replacement

22:39tree totally needs to be be it has to be

22:42reasonable and has to be fair and not

22:45punitive and there should be an

22:47incentive for people who opt to pay into

22:51the fund uh an offset on their tax bill

22:55that there could be something to sweeten

22:57this for them and take the sting out of

22:59it.

23:00um because it's mandatory and I think

23:04the ordinance language needs to be very

23:06clear to say that this applies to

23:08property owners who are going to do mega

23:10developments. And in closing, I want to

23:13say this. I hear lots of people in the

23:16city planning department, consultants

23:18that we hire, other groups in re in REI

23:22that have been talking about uh the how

23:26Revier needs to be proactive be to be

23:28climate resilient and one of the big

23:31parts of climate resiliency

23:33is green space and trees and

23:37environmental awareness. So, I'm not I'm

23:40not understanding why people are barking

23:42at this kind of an ordinance just

23:44because people say you cannot throw your

23:46hands up in the air and say we can't do

23:48it because people don't like it or

23:50because it's going to be difficult to

23:52administrate or it's going to be

23:54difficult to enforce since when does the

23:56city ever not incorporate an an

23:58ordinance because of that. So, I just

24:00I'm I'm hoping that this will go back

24:02into committee, be tuned, fine-tuned,

24:06and come back out with the favorable

24:08report from the committee for the

24:09council to vote and approve it.

24:12>> Thank you. I hope you I hope you'll come

24:14back for the committee meeting. And we

24:16appreciate your input.

24:19>> No, no, no, no. You Everybody gets two

24:22minutes. So, we gave you a little more

24:25than two minutes, but we appreciate you

24:27because you do your homework and and

24:29you're always uh uh very uh poignant in

24:32your your message. So, I appreciate you

24:35coming up here.

24:36>> Uh any

24:37>> Thank you, Mr. President, for the

24:38leeway. [clears throat]

24:39>> Any other proponents?

24:41People in favor?

24:44>> Yes, sir.

24:46>> Name and address.

24:47>> Travis Alpert, 19 Cooler Street. Thank

24:49you, Council President. Good evening,

24:50council. Um I'm in favor. This woman

24:52spoke very well, eloquently though long

24:56and I just want to for the constituents

24:59if if there's an opportunity to clarify

25:01that section 8 1160

25:04um with the payment in lie of replanting

25:07a tree um so that you know the public

25:09can really understand that. But I I am

25:12definitely in favor of the trees. They

25:14help create noise insulation you know

25:16between neighbors. Um, obviously they're

25:18good for breathing and oxygen and so

25:21I'll keep it short. That's it.

25:22>> Thank you for your input. Any other

25:25proponents? People in favor

25:28>> hearing and seeing none. I'm going to

25:29close that side of the hearing.

25:30Opponents, people opposed.

25:32>> Mr. President, I have a letter.

25:36>> Excuse me. Who? No, we got to wait.

25:39>> Yeah, I have a letter from a

25:40constituent.

25:41>> A proponent

25:42>> against it. Opponent. Opponent.

25:44>> No. We got opponents now. When she's

25:47when the opponents are finished, you can

25:49add that to the record.

25:54>> Name and address for the record, please.

25:56>> Mary Gandalf from 619 Washington Avenue.

25:58Rea,

25:59>> welcome.

26:00>> Thank you. Um, I am an an opponent, a

26:05severe extreme opponent to this because

26:11um, can you hear me?

26:14because I had an extremely bad

26:17experience with the city trying to get

26:19help for a brand new sidewalk that they

26:22installed for two years. I wrote

26:25letters, I sent emails, I sent certified

26:28mail, I handd delivered letters, I made

26:30phone calls, I had conversations face to

26:33face, I got no help at all. The

26:37contractor came in and did the project

26:39and my sidewalk ended up I was the one

26:42who got the petition for the sidewalks

26:43on Washington Avenue. My sidewalk became

26:46all cracked in one season. I went to the

26:50city. I asked, "Please help me. Someone

26:52has to be able to get them back here,

26:54fix this, whatever." They did nothing of

26:57the sort. They ignored their

26:59responsibilities.

27:01They ignored me. They avoided me. I

27:04asked for help so many times to

27:06everything. I you know I help everybody.

27:09I help people all the time. People I

27:12don't even know. I take care of my

27:14sister. She's old. My my brother I help

27:16him. I'm not that kind of person. I

27:19don't bother people. I am a a homeowner.

27:22I'm a taxpayer.

27:24>> Can Can you give me your opposition to

27:26the trees? Yes, I'm I'm opposed because

27:28if we give the city full reign over our

27:31backyards and our trees, if I they can't

27:34fix a sidewalk that they put I get your

27:38point, but you're you're kind of off

27:39topic.

27:40>> No, I'm

27:40>> I'll help you with your sidewalk, but

27:42you It's not This is not part of the

27:44issue.

27:44>> It's the point that they don't handle

27:45things properly in the city. There's a

27:47lot of stuff being I'm still waiting.

27:51It's not too late

27:53really for the department or the mayor's

27:55office to help me with this. And I do

27:58not want them responsible coming in my h

28:01my yard for my trees. No, you can't

28:03trust them. Please, everybody better

28:05write letters. And you don't want this.

28:07Believe me, after what I've been

28:08through.

28:09>> Thank you for your Thank you.

28:10>> Any other opponents? People opposed.

28:15>> I'm trying to get it. I think this is an

28:18issue of

28:18>> Name and address for the record, please.

28:20Uh, Anthony Cantino, 240 SuffK Avenue

28:24River. I I believe this is about a tree

28:28of trees. Am I correct?

28:30>> It's a tree ordinance. Yes.

28:31>> Well, all you have to do is wash the

28:34northeast yesterday and you saw how many

28:38tree it's the responsibility

28:41of the landlord, the the owner of the

28:43property to decide when he wants a tree

28:46down or a tree up. Okay. Now, the

28:50picture that was shown uh at the last

28:53city council meeting uh you know, beauty

28:56is to be to the beholder. You know, I

28:59thought that was a Picasso to tell you

29:02the truth.

29:04>> God bless you.

29:05>> So, so let let's go.

29:08>> Okay. All right. Let's go to reality,

29:11you know.

29:11>> All right. You get a windstorm like that

29:14yesterday and I don't know how many

29:16trees are knocked down that should have

29:19been cut.

29:20>> Okay.

29:21>> Okay. And it's up to the owner to decide

29:25when and where he washed the plant and

29:28when and where he washed the cut.

29:30>> Thank you.

29:31>> Like I said, beauty is to the beholder.

29:34You know,

29:35>> thank you for your input, sir. I think

29:37that I shall never see a poem as lovely

29:40as a tree. [laughter]

29:42>> Thank you very much. Any other

29:44opponents?

29:46Hearing and seeing none, we're going to

29:47close that side of the hearing.

29:50>> No, we have an opponent letter.

29:52>> Oh, I apologize. We have an opponent

29:54letter. That's correct. Thank you, sir.

29:58>> May I read it?

29:59>> Absolutely. Council,

30:01>> Mr. President. [laughter]

30:03[gasps]

30:03>> Okay. This um letter came from attorney

30:05Christine Kerry. Um on behalf of my

30:08family, I respectfully oppose the

30:10proposed tree preservation or ordinance.

30:13While we support responsible

30:14environmental stewardship in effort to

30:17pre preserve REA's tree canopy, this

30:19ordinance places additional government

30:21regulations, fees, and financial burdens

30:24on homeowners while providing broad

30:26authority to the city over decisions

30:28involving private property. The proposal

30:32would require homeowners to obtain

30:33permits

30:35before removing

30:37certain trees on their own property, pay

30:40permit application fees, replace remove

30:43replace removed trees, or make payments

30:46into a city fund. It also imposes fines

30:49of $300 per treat for violation. I am

30:53particularly concerned about the

30:54qualifications of the individual

30:56empowered to make these decision. The

30:59ordinance defines the tree warden as the

31:02city engineer or their designate.

31:05However,

31:07neither role necess necessarily requires

31:10professional training or certification

31:13in agriculture,

31:17forestry, or tree health. Decisions that

31:19affect private property rights and

31:21potentially impose significant costs on

31:23residents should be made by qualified

31:26tree professionals, not by individuals

31:28whose expertise may lie in other

31:31disciplines. The this ordinance could

31:34also create unintended problems for

31:36homeowners try to comply with insurance

31:38requirements. Insurance companies often

31:40require property owners to remove trees

31:42that are dead, damaged, deceased,

31:44diseased, or pose a risk to structures.

31:47Under this proposal, homeowners may be

31:50forced into a permanent a permit process

31:53before addressing those concerns. Delays

31:56in obtaining approval could make it

31:58difficult to meet insurance sections to

32:01make insurance companies deadlines,

32:04jeopardize coverage, increase liability

32:07exposure, or postpone necessary safety

32:09measures intended to protect homes and

32:12families. Additionally, we a lifetime

32:15residents as lifetime residents of

32:18Rivier are concerned about fairness and

32:20equal enforcement. Homeowners are being

32:23asked to navigate permits, fees,

32:25replacement requirements, and penalties

32:27while developers are often allowed to

32:30clear lots and remove significant amount

32:31of vegetation

32:33as part of development projects. This

32:36creates the perception that ordinary

32:38residents face stricter

32:42restrictions than those undertaking

32:44large-scale development. Property owners

32:46already bear the responsibility and

32:48expense of maintaining their trees,

32:50cleaning up storm damage, repairing

32:53sidewalks and foundations affected by

32:55roots, addressing safety hazard, and

32:57protecting their properties. Additional

32:59adding another layer of municipal

33:01oversight and cost represents an

33:03unnecessary expansion to government

33:06authority into decisions that have

33:08traditionally been the responsibility of

33:11homeowners. We urge the council to

33:13reject this ordinance in its entirety.

33:16If the council does not take this

33:18recommendation, we urge a total revision

33:21to ensure qualified oversight,

33:25equal application of rules, protection

33:28of homeowners rights, and reasonable

33:30accommodation for residents facing

33:32legitimate safety, maintenance, and

33:34insurance related obligations as the

33:36council to this community and public

33:38meetings to hear input from the

33:41residents. Thank you so much and thank

33:43you for listening to the letter. said,

33:46>> "Does the clerk have the name or does

33:48she have a copy of that letter?"

33:51>> Okay, thank you. Any other counselors?

33:56>> Ledger Fas.

34:06Okay,

34:10>> that I thought I already closed the

34:12proponents, but then I opened it again.

34:14Okay.

34:15>> Yeah. Now, city councilors. Okay. Now,

34:18uh the maker of the motion, council me.

34:21>> Thank you. Um so, I talked to a couple

34:23of councilors tonight and I know um many

34:26councilors are getting push back with

34:27this ordinance. Um they feel compelled

34:29to vote this down. Uh the conflict I

34:32believe is the residents feel that the

34:34tree warden coming into their property

34:36or uh getting a permit to have a tree uh

34:40cut down is uh a invasion of privacy.

34:44But just an FYI, the city goes into

34:46resident properties to um to look at

34:49structures uh for permits. If a resident

34:53has high grass, debris, garbage or si

34:56the city can go in and find them. There

34:58are many other cities in Massachusetts

35:00that have this ordinance in place and it

35:03works. Why not revere? Um so I came to

35:08the conclusion with councelor uh mccurio

35:10that we are going to probably table this

35:13and uh revise it and um Mr. Stefano had

35:17some really good uh input. So, we're

35:20going to take your um we're definitely

35:22going to take the input that you put put

35:24out there and and uh just we're going to

35:27table it and maybe revise it so it's a

35:29little bit uh easier for the residents

35:31to swallow. Thank you,

35:40>> Council Muriel.

35:41>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um, council

35:43McKenna and I brought this ordinance

35:45forward because we believe protecting

35:47Re's tree canopy is important and I will

35:51I still believe we need to be need a

35:53reasonable tree preservation ordinance

35:55in our city. However, I've listened to

35:58the concerns raised by my colleagues and

36:00by residents. I understand the concern

36:03about government telling homeowners what

36:05they can and cannot do with trees on

36:06their own property. I also believe we

36:09need to take another look at the

36:10mandatory replacement provisions. the

36:12fees, the penalties, and make sure we

36:15are not replace placing any unreasonable

36:18financial or administrative burden on

36:20our residents. For those reasons, I

36:23would be willing to table this ordinance

36:26and continue working on it. I don't

36:28believe we should abandon this idea.

36:31>> I believe we should take the time to get

36:32it right. Let's work together for an

36:35ordinance that protects our trees,

36:37canopy, respects private property

36:39rights, and is reasonable and fair to

36:42the residents of Revier. If taken a

36:44little more time to get us to the

36:46balance that builds broader support on

36:49this council, then I believe this is the

36:51right thing to do. Thank you, Mr.

36:53President.

36:53>> Thank you, Council. Councelor Sylvestri.

36:55>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um, I want to

36:58thank the counselors for for taking this

37:01back and and rethinking it. I'm all for

37:03the the tree ordinance and and the thing

37:06my my issue um with the and and it is

37:10with the other motion as well tonight in

37:12in this meeting alone we've added or we

37:15were thinking about adding $50 extra

37:16dollars to to residents and and you know

37:20in a time when we're trying to make

37:21things more affordable I don't think

37:23it's our place to be adding fees. So I

37:25appreciate them taking that and

37:26tableabling that. So thank you.

37:29>> Thank you councelor. Any other

37:30counselors?

37:32This is going to legislative affairs.

37:36>> Public comment pursuant to chapter 402

37:39of the acts of 1965.

37:41Reier residents, Reier business owners

37:43or city of Revier employees only. Reier

37:45residents, please provide your name and

37:47residential address. Business owners,

37:49please provide your name, business name,

37:51and business address. Employees, please

37:53provide your name and department. Two

37:55minutes per person and indicate which

37:57council order you will be speaking on.

38:01This is the public comment period.

38:04Anybody has anything to speak on, come

38:06up and give your name and address and uh

38:10>> what's what issue you want to speak on

38:12that's on the calendar

38:16>> except you can't you can't speak on the

38:19thing you just spoke on the public

38:20hearing on.

38:21>> Okay. Come up and name and address and

38:24what you're going to speak on, please.

38:27Is this the song? Mary Gindalfo, 619

38:29Washington Avenue. I wanted to speak on

38:32the motion by councelor Kelly regarding

38:37water meters

38:39for

38:41what's the exact wording.

38:47Council Kelly put in a a motion about

38:50putting

38:52>> senior water meter program to help

38:55seniors water their tomatoes like mine

38:57in the garden. Yeah.

38:59>> Yeah.

38:59>> Okay. So, I think this is a great

39:02motion.

39:02>> Okay.

39:03>> And I fully support it. I talked to many

39:06of my senior friends. They fully support

39:08it. I mean, who doesn't want to have a

39:10little garden in the yard in the summer

39:12and use the water, you know, save a

39:14little bit of extra money? I did have a

39:16water meter long ago that broke and the

39:19city wanted another 200 or whatever for

39:22another meter and I was like why I just

39:24paid for this one. Why did it break

39:26first of all? So this would be a great

39:28motion I think to help seniors

39:30and I'm asking you to vote yes on this.

39:33Thank you.

39:34>> Thank you for your input.

39:36Anybody else in public comment? Hearing

39:39and seeing none, we're going to close

39:40that section of the meeting.

39:44[clears throat]

39:45Unfinished business. Calendar item

39:46number eight. Council President Ziamudo

39:48filed reconsideration on the following

39:50motion on September 15th. This was a

39:52motion that was approved by the city

39:54council on the 14th presented by

39:56councelor Greeno SA that the mayor

39:58request the appropriate city departments

39:59to establish a policy whereby any

40:01resident or applicant seeking to open a

40:04new business in the city of River be

40:06provided with the name and contact

40:07information of the ward counselor

40:09represent representing the ward in which

40:11the proposed business will be located as

40:13part of the initial application process.

40:22uh on on reconsideration.

40:28>> Yeah.

40:32>> It's non-debatable.

40:34>> Shall the city council reconsider this

40:35matter? Councelor

40:37>> Aenzio

40:47can't I can't debate it. I can't tell

40:49you

40:55>> I just told you I can't legally I can't

40:59reason.

41:19Roll call.

41:22>> Shall the motion be reconsidered?

41:24Councelor Aenzio.

41:25>> Yes.

41:26>> Yes. Councelor Cogleandro.

41:27>> Yes.

41:28>> Yes. Councelor Janino.

41:30>> Yes.

41:31>> Yes. Councelor Gino SA.

41:33>> No.

41:33>> No. Councelor Hass.

41:35>> Yes. Yes. Councelor Kelly.

41:36>> Yes.

41:37>> Yes. Council McKenna.

41:38>> Yes.

41:38>> Yes. Council Mccurio.

41:40>> Yes.

41:40>> Yes. Council Nobasi.

41:42>> Yes.

41:42>> Yes. Council Sylvestri.

41:43>> Yes.

41:44>> Yes. And Council President Zimbudo.

41:46>> Yes.

41:47>> Yes. The motion is reconsidered. The

41:50original motion is now on the floor.

41:53>> Okay. Uh first of all,

41:56the the reason I filed for

41:58reconsideration is I had I mistakenly

42:02vote uh approved this motion. and I

42:04intend intended to send it to committee

42:07and my reason for sending it to

42:09committee is the way it's written it's

42:11illegal. So it's as simple as that. I

42:15want discussion on this and and we'll

42:18understand what we can and can't do. We

42:21can't change mass general laws to to do

42:26something like this. So it was a

42:27mistake. I gave it in at the last

42:29meeting by mistake. So that's why I

42:31filed reconsideration and it needs to go

42:34to committee and and be discussed.

42:38>> You made a mistake.

42:39>> Yes.

42:39>> Oh my god.

42:40>> I know I made a mistake and I admitted

42:43it on on TV. I You know, normally I I I

42:48thought I made a mistake. I I I thought

42:50I uh did something wrong, but I was

42:52mistaken. But this time I did make a

42:55mistake.

42:56>> Mr. President,

42:57>> come. Yeah.

42:58>> May I ask a question?

42:59>> Certainly. But I I got to call

43:01>> my I'm sorry Kelly first.

43:03>> That's okay. Thank you. So um are you

43:06saying then that the Massachusetts

43:08general law this would increase the

43:10burden on what is required on an

43:12applicant? So that's is that your

43:14reason?

43:14>> Exactly. Okay. Thank you.

43:15>> Yes.

43:16>> Um

43:19>> okay. Anybody else?

43:22Okay. Uh

43:44economic development.

43:52>> Next up is the legislative affairs

43:54subcommittee report. Chairman Arenzio.

43:58>> Thank you. Uh, Mr. President, we had two

44:00items before us tonight. Uh, one was an

44:03ordinance establishing regulations for

44:05naming city property in the city of

44:07Rivier. We discussed it and we amended

44:10it. Uh, the original um motion was for a

44:14person to be deceased for 10 years. We

44:17amended it to say that a person needed

44:19to be deceased for one year. So, I'd

44:22like a favorable uh roll call on the

44:25ordinance as amended.

44:36>> Can I make an amendment, please?

44:41>> Thank you.

44:41>> Well, no, I I don't think you

44:44>> I

44:46proposed a

44:48>> Oh, okay. Audit audit on on the

44:51amendment.

45:04>> Okay.

45:07>> Okay.

45:08>> On. So am I going to say on the second?

45:15>> Now you can now you can go ahead.

45:18I'd like to amend it to three years

45:20instead of one year.

45:23>> I think three one year is too short.

45:26>> Okay. Anybody else?

45:30>> Council Novasowski.

45:32>> Thank you, Mr. Mr. President.

45:33Unfortunately, I wasn't at the U

45:35committee meeting, but I did watch it on

45:37TV. And um

45:40we have to realize we're talking about

45:42city property. We're not talking about

45:44making a memorial for someone. small a

45:47small item like like a a bench. We're

45:52not I don't think we're talking about a

45:53bench. I We're talking about a building,

45:57>> you know. And but I know in the

45:58committee they talked about getting

45:59permission to do a bench.

46:02>> No, I I think if if I'm correct as I

46:05heard it, this wasn't to affect benches

46:09and stuff. This is just for buildings.

46:11Wasn't that what was discussed in

46:13committee?

46:15Chandler.

46:17>> Uh,

46:19yes, that is correct. Uh, I could once I

46:22find it, I can read it. U, Madame Clerk,

46:25do you have it at your easy disposal

46:28there?

46:29>> The full text of the ordinance or

46:30subsection C?

46:32>> Subsection C, I think, will cover us.

46:34>> Subsection C reads as follows. When

46:36city-owned property is newly acquired,

46:38renovated or constructed, the following

46:41guidelines shall be followed for the

46:43purpose of dedicating a name to the

46:45property. One, if the property is

46:48proposed to be named after an individual

46:50person, the person must have made a

46:52significant positive contribution to the

46:54city of Revier and the person for whom

46:57the property may be named shall have

46:59been deceased for at least currently on

47:01the floor one year so that their

47:03contribution to the city will have stood

47:05the test of time. And two, if property

47:08is not proposed to be named for an

47:10individual person, it shall be named

47:13based on the property's relationship to

47:15any of the following. The neighborhood

47:17or geographic location of the property,

47:19the property's purpose, a natural or

47:22geological feature relevant to the

47:24property, or a historical event or

47:26structure relevant to the property's

47:28address.

47:31>> I understand. Clear.

47:32>> I agree with that. Thank you.

47:33>> Okay,

47:34>> Mr. President

47:36>> can I just

47:37>> Oh, you you got to wait. You have

47:40>> Okay, that's fine.

47:41>> Council,

47:42>> I think the section of this that would

47:44better answer uh in through you to

47:45council Novaski is section B.

47:48>> Uh for purpose of this section, property

47:50shall mean any building, structure, open

47:53space, square

47:55>> or park that is owned, leased or

47:57operated by the city of so it's not just

48:01uh buildings. I that would have changed

48:02my mind as well if it was just building.

48:05So there is more to this.

48:08>> Mr. President, I'd like to read section

48:11D.

48:12>> Chairman Chairman Chio.

48:15Portions of property such as interior

48:18room, entryway, or hall within a

48:22structure may be named for an individual

48:25alive or deceased who has made a

48:28significant positive contribution to the

48:31city of Revier.

48:33Uh e re for the naming of public ways

48:40and revised ordinances did memorial

48:42polls. So I believe this is only

48:46pertinent to the structures. I a room

48:50inside a structure, you know, could be

48:53alive or deceased.

48:56>> Thank you. Uh Council McKenna, one more

48:58minute.

48:59>> Thank you. [clears throat] And I'll do

49:00it very shortly. Um, I just have a

49:03problem because I know um in different

49:06cities and uh they've named uh buildings

49:12after people and then three years later

49:13they find out that the the guy's a

49:16pedophile or the guy's [laughter] uh

49:18that he's he stole $100,000 from the

49:22library. I mean, and then they have to

49:25rename it or they just have to call it,

49:27you know. So I think we need time just

49:30if if a person has done wonderful things

49:33for the city.

49:35We just need time to see if that stands.

49:39>> So you you want to you want to amend it

49:42to three years?

49:42>> I want to amend it to three years.

49:44>> Councelor Kelly. Um to councelor

49:47Novasowsk's point um since we settled

49:51the issue as to whether or not this

49:54would apply to things that like benches

49:57or just property and I think we can

49:59agree that it's just property and

50:00interior rooms of that property. If that

50:02is the case, then is councelor

50:05Novasowski saying then due to that just

50:07being applied to property and larger

50:10structures, it should be a more lengthy

50:13amount of time or a lengthy amount. The

50:17term should be longer than it than one

50:18year. Is that your point, counselor? I

50:20just want to make that clear.

50:22>> Thank you, councelor. Through you, Mr.

50:23President. Uh the the timeline was not

50:27part of my question.

50:28>> Good. It was just defining defining

50:33property, building parks and that's all

50:36in there. So I understand that. Thank

50:38you.

50:38>> Thank you councelor Hash.

50:40>> Thank you Mr. President. I suggested the

50:42amendment change in the subcommittee

50:44just because I thought that a year from

50:46what I have seen online it seemed a few

50:48cities and towns adopted the the year

50:51cooling um cooling uh cooling phase I

50:55think it was called. But um I feel like

50:57anyone that's being suggested for a

51:00memorial like that, you know, have

51:01something named after them. Their

51:03contributions are pretty much known to

51:05the city, known to the residents. I

51:07don't I don't think anyone would be this

51:10wouldn't be taken lightly when naming

51:12something after someone. But I also feel

51:14like 10 years,

51:17>> even five years, you're talking about

51:19five years from after the person passes

51:21away. A lot of the family members could

51:23move away. They could, you know, you

51:26hate to say it, they could pass away

51:27themselves and then by the time the the

51:30um the building's named after someone,

51:32no one's going to be there to see it.

51:35>> Thank you. Thank you, councelor. So So

51:38is there an amendment on the on the

51:40table here to go to three years?

51:42>> Yes.

51:43>> Okay.

51:46>> Yeah. Roll call.

51:48Shall the city council and approve an

51:50amendment as follows to strike one year

51:55in section 1.1030C1

51:59and insert in place thereof three years.

52:02Councelor Aenzio,

52:04>> yes.

52:04>> Yes. Council Cogleandro,

52:06>> no.

52:06>> No. Councelor Jino,

52:09>> yes.

52:09>> Yes. Councelor Gino SA.

52:11>> No.

52:11>> No. Councelor Hass,

52:13>> no.

52:13>> No. Council Kelly,

52:14>> yes.

52:15>> Yes. Council McKenna,

52:16>> yes. Yes. Council mccario.

52:18>> Yes.

52:18>> Yes. Council Vasilski.

52:20>> Yes.

52:21>> Yes. Council Sylvester.

52:22>> Yes.

52:23>> Yes. And council president Sambutoo.

52:25>> Yes.

52:25>> Yes. The amendment has been approved.

52:32>> On the second reading as amended. All in

52:35favor? All oppose.

52:41On the third and final reading as

52:43amended. All in favor. All opposed.

52:48on engrossment and addment.

52:52Roll call. Sorry.

52:54>> Shall the city council approve an

52:55ordinance establishing regulations for

52:57naming city property in the city of

52:58River as amended? Councelor Aenzio.

53:01>> Yes.

53:02>> Yes. Council Kogandro.

53:03>> Yes.

53:03>> Yes. Councelor Jino.

53:05>> Yes.

53:05>> Yes. Councelor Gino SA.

53:07>> Yes.

53:07>> Yes. Councelor Hass.

53:09>> Yes.

53:09>> Yes. Councelor Kelly.

53:10>> Yes.

53:10>> Yes. Council McKenna.

53:12>> Yes.

53:12>> Yes. Council Murio.

53:13>> Yes.

53:14>> Yes. Council Noveski. Yes.

53:16>> Yes. Council Sylvester.

53:17>> Yes.

53:18>> Yes. And council president Sambutoo.

53:20>> Yes.

53:20>> Yes. The ordinance is engrossed and

53:22ordained.

53:29>> Councelor Arenio, Chairman Arenzio,

53:32continue your report.

53:38Um, so the second uh item before us was

53:42the city council order to a public

53:44hearing an ordinance establishing a

53:46unified rental registry and inspection

53:49program and amending and restating the

53:52regulation of short-term rentals. We

53:55discussed this at length and voted

53:56unanimously to move this to a public

53:58hearing. So I'd like an affirmative vote

54:01to move this to a public hearing.

54:10All in favor? All opposed.

54:12>> So voted.

54:15>> It's going to a public hearing on the

54:1826th. Is it going on?

54:20>> 26th of October.

54:25>> Con.

54:27>> Okay. I apologize. We're going to go to

54:29a roll call on this and and and maybe

54:32some recusals.

54:34Roll call.

54:36>> Shall the city council order to a public

54:38hearing an ordinance establishing a

54:40unified rental registry and inspection

54:42program and amending and restating the

54:44regulation of short-term rentals?

54:46Councelor Agenzio,

54:47>> yes.

54:48>> Yes. Council Kaggleandro,

54:50>> recused.

54:50>> Recused. Council Janino,

54:53>> recused.

54:53>> Recused. Council Gino SA.

54:55>> Yes.

54:56>> Yes. Council Hass.

54:58>> Yes.

54:58>> Yes. Council Kelly,

54:59>> yes.

55:00>> Yes. Council McKenna,

55:01>> yes.

55:01>> Yes. Council Mccario,

55:02>> recuse.

55:05recuse. Council Novaski,

55:07>> recuse.

55:08>> Recuse. Councelor Sylvestri.

55:13>> Yes.

55:14>> Yes. And council president Zambudo.

55:17>> I think I'll recuse.

55:21>> Five. Motion will be uh proposed

55:23ordinance will be ordered to a public

55:25hearing on October 26th.

55:35Communications. Calendar item number 11,

55:37communication from the mayor relative to

55:39the reappoint of Mario Gmanis to the

55:41disability commission.

55:45>> Calendar item number 12, communication

55:47from the mayor relative to the reappoint

55:49of Kathleen Savage to the board of

55:51health. appointment.

55:54>> Calendar item number 13, communication

55:56from the mayor relative to the reappoint

55:58of Toby Pearlstein to the library board

55:59of trustees.

56:02>> Calendar item number 14, communication

56:04from the mayor relative to the

56:05reappointment of Deborah Frank to the

56:06affordable housing trust fund board.

56:11Calendar item number 16, communication

56:14from the CFO relative to the memorandum

56:16of agreement for the crossing guards

56:18covering the period of July 1 of 26

56:21through June 30th of 29.

56:24>> Mr. CFO,

56:26>> good evening, councilors. Richard

56:28Visqueke, CFO 281 Broadway. Um before

56:31you this evening is a memorandum of

56:34agreement that was negotiated in good

56:36faith between the city and members of

56:39ASME 93 uh representing the crossing

56:42guard union and um here to answer any

56:46questions on that agreement. Uh but I

56:48encourage favorable action so that we

56:49can um get them on the new current

56:52schedule. Thank you.

56:54>> Thank you. Any councilors?

56:58Councelor Sylvestri. I just think we we

57:01should all be in favor of this. It's um

57:04due time that the crossing guards in the

57:06city get paid a decent wage and and they

57:08take care of the children, keeping them

57:09safe. So, I think it's all plus.

57:11>> Thank you, Council Novaski.

57:13>> Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. President,

57:15I see these folks working every day and

57:20they do a great job, but they're in

57:22danger. The way these people drive

57:24around is crazy. They go through their

57:27stop signs like they go through normal

57:30stop signs, but they put their hearts

57:33and soul into their jobs and they love

57:35it and they love the kids and the kids

57:37love them and I think we ought to

57:39recognize them and give them what they

57:42deserve. Thank you.

57:43>> Any other counselors? Councelor H.

57:46>> Thank you, Mr. President. Agree with

57:48both my fellow counselors that this is

57:50um this is well done. you know, these

57:53men and women are outside in the rain,

57:55the snow, and the in the winter months,

57:57and they develop great relationshipships

57:59with the kids and the parents and even

58:01the the faculty. But I'm happy to see

58:04this get done. They do a great job.

58:05Thank you.

58:07>> Thank you. If I might, I watched uh one

58:11of the crossing guards get hit by a

58:13scooter and uh I'm I'm very uh I just

58:17recently put in a motion about scooters

58:19and uh I watched uh Captain Demoro get

58:22uh almost killed broke his hip and uh

58:26he's was a cross and got uh the Lincoln

58:30school and I happened to be riding by

58:32when it happened. So uh traumatic but my

58:36colleague is correct. It's a dangerous

58:37job and these people put their heart and

58:39soul in it and uh they should be

58:42compensated for that. Okay. Uh roll

58:45call.

58:48Shall the city council approve the

58:49appropriation necessary to fund the

58:51memory end of of agreement between the

58:53city of Rivier and the Crossing Guard

58:54Union covering the period of July 1 of

58:5726 through June 30th of 29. Councelor

58:59Aenzio.

59:01>> Yes.

59:01>> Yes. Council Kogleandro.

59:02>> Yes.

59:03>> Yes. Council Janino.

59:05>> Yes.

59:05>> Yes. Yes. Councelor Gino SA.

59:06>> Yes.

59:07>> Yes. Councelor Hass.

59:08>> Yes.

59:08>> Yes. Councelor Kelly.

59:09>> Yes.

59:10>> Yes. Council McKenna.

59:11>> Yes.

59:11>> Yes. Council Mccurio.

59:12>> Yes.

59:13>> Yes. Council Noveski.

59:14>> Yes.

59:15>> Yes. Council Sylvestri.

59:16>> Yes.

59:16>> Yes. And council president Tamudo.

59:18>> Yes.

59:19>> Yes. The MOA has been approved or the

59:21appropriation necessary to fund the MOA

59:23has been approved. [clears throat]

59:25Calendar item number 17. communication

59:27from the CFO requesting an appropriation

59:30in the amount of $125,000 from the

59:32capital improvement stabilization fund

59:35for the new Garfield School elevator

59:37design.

59:39>> Mr. CFO,

59:41>> thank you. Um, Rich Fiske, CFO on

59:44Broadway. um before you you can see an

59:47estimate on the engineering services

59:51that would allow us to get a design for

59:54the replacement of the three elevators

59:57at the Garfield school. Um once we get

59:59that design, we can put some bid

1:00:01documents together and come before you

1:00:04with an amount to actually replace or

1:00:06repair those elevators. So this is

1:00:08strictly for the um engineering services

1:00:10to design this um these repairs. Happy

1:00:14to answer any questions.

1:00:18>> Cog Leandro.

1:00:19>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um through you

1:00:21to Mr. Biske,

1:00:24why is the school department not paying

1:00:25for this out of their budget?

1:00:31>> I mean, I think uh the capital

1:00:34improvement plan of the city encompasses

1:00:36the entire um city, including the

1:00:39schools. Schools are a department of the

1:00:40city. Um certainly not here to debate

1:00:43who should be paying. I think ultimately

1:00:44the city is uh the authority that pays

1:00:47all the bills but um

1:00:50um again this was uh to try to get this

1:00:53project going and those funds were

1:00:55available uh through the capital

1:00:57improvement fund which we use for

1:00:58capital. So that's uh that's the answer

1:01:01I'll give you. Thank you.

1:01:02>> So it it's taxpayer money that goes to

1:01:06fixing now. So they they don't take this

1:01:08out of their budget. we have to take it

1:01:10out of the city side after we've given

1:01:11them millions of dollars to help them

1:01:13this year.

1:01:15I just I don't So it I guess it's

1:01:17$125,000

1:01:19at the end of the day.

1:01:21>> I this is just a study. I understand.

1:01:23And don't get me wrong, the Garfield

1:01:25School needs new elevators. There's no

1:01:26question. I won't get on one of those.

1:01:28Uh but um I I just I I just I guess I

1:01:32don't understand why it's going to come

1:01:33out of the taxpayer pocket when

1:01:36>> when there's they have there and I won't

1:01:39get into a crazy, you know, talk about

1:01:41this, but I just think the school

1:01:43department should be paying for this,

1:01:44not us. Thank you,

1:01:45>> Council Sylvestri.

1:01:48>> Uh that was going to be my question. Um

1:01:50Council Kaggliano, so thank you for

1:01:52asking it. Um, but I will say that the

1:01:55Garfield uh elevators are in desperate

1:01:57need of repair. So, at least we're

1:01:59getting the ball started there.

1:02:01>> I Anybody else?

1:02:05>> Council M Curio,

1:02:06>> I know that we're going to have to pay

1:02:07for the study on the uh the engineering

1:02:09on this. So, we're going to have to pay

1:02:10for the installation of the new

1:02:11elevators also.

1:02:14>> Yes,

1:02:18>> Council Kelly.

1:02:19>> Thank you. Do we have an estimate yet

1:02:21about the actual work or is this just do

1:02:24do we have to do this first before we

1:02:26can get any estimate on how much the

1:02:27work?

1:02:27>> Yes,

1:02:28>> exactly. I think um again I'm a little

1:02:31nervous to throw a nest out there but

1:02:33engineering cost typically around 10% of

1:02:36actual cost. So probably a million

1:02:38dollar [clears throat] post repair. But

1:02:40again um that's why we do the

1:02:42engineering studies and then we'll put

1:02:44it out to bid and we'll come before you

1:02:45with the cost once we know that. This is

1:02:47this this will get us the documents that

1:02:50we need to put it out to bid.

1:02:52>> Anyone else? Councelor Arenzio.

1:02:54>> Thank you. Uh Mr. Visque I wasn't the um

1:02:59school department sitting on like a

1:03:01little bit of a surplus a four or$5

1:03:02million surplus

1:03:06and and could that money be used for a

1:03:09capital expenditure or or does it have

1:03:11to go towards

1:03:13uh school activities or for lack of a

1:03:16better term? Uh the schools are

1:03:19definitely sitting on some um funds that

1:03:22could otherwise be used for this and you

1:03:24know I'm certainly not here to debate

1:03:27that. Um but the answer short answer is

1:03:29yes there are funds available that could

1:03:32potentially be used at the school

1:03:34department but that would probably be

1:03:36derived through the school committee

1:03:38making some kind of appropriation for

1:03:39that. I know they have bottom line

1:03:41autonomy, but um I'm I'm here just

1:03:44delivering the message on trying to fund

1:03:46this in in the manner in which I was

1:03:48asked to come up here. So um but you you

1:03:50are correct. There's uh there's

1:03:52certainly some healthy debate that

1:03:54happens between the city and schools

1:03:55every year about funds and how they're

1:03:58used and how much we're funding them.

1:03:59But um we do have a new order firm this

1:04:03year that's looking at all of our um uh

1:04:06way we do business and uh coming up with

1:04:08different recommendations on how we

1:04:09should proceed going forward. So there's

1:04:11probably more to follow on on that

1:04:13particular topic.

1:04:14>> Okay. Thank you.

1:04:16>> Thank you councelor.

1:04:18>> Thank you Mr. President. Uh

1:04:22I know the Garfield school needs work.

1:04:24There's no question in my mind. But I

1:04:27agree with councelor Cogleandro.

1:04:30Here we go again with the school

1:04:32department coming to us looking to bail

1:04:36them out.

1:04:38And I'm I'm I'm tired of it. But I want

1:04:41to take care of the school and make sure

1:04:43everybody's safe. But I just object to

1:04:47us having to bail them out on every

1:04:49outstanding project that they have. And

1:04:51they got the money to do it. So, I have

1:04:54a I don't have a problem with this, but

1:04:56I have a problem with the process. Thank

1:04:59you,

1:05:02>> Council McKenna.

1:05:03>> Thank you. We're not trying to beat you

1:05:05up on us, Rich. Um, I just want to say,

1:05:08is it like $600,000 that they have a

1:05:11surplus in something around there? Is I

1:05:14don't Do you know the figure?

1:05:16>> What's the matter,

1:05:18>> Tony?

1:05:20>> A million.

1:05:22>> All right. All

1:05:24right. Well,

1:05:26>> you know, they can make the decision on

1:05:28how to name a building and we have no

1:05:30say in it,

1:05:31>> but we have h have to pay for their

1:05:35elevators.

1:05:36>> So, I mean, I don't I don't get it. If

1:05:39if we should have full range, if we're

1:05:41going to pay um millions of dollars for

1:05:43elevators, then we should have full

1:05:45range of the school committee, the

1:05:46school department. So, that's just how I

1:05:49feel.

1:05:51>> Okay. No.

1:05:53Councelor Carleandro,

1:05:54>> one minute leeway. Thank you very much.

1:05:57>> Can we kick this back to the school

1:05:59committee to see if they can find the

1:06:00money for it?

1:06:03>> And Rich, I'm sorry it's you up here. I

1:06:05apologize.

1:06:06>> I take no offense. I'm I'm just here to

1:06:08try to secure the funds. If this body

1:06:10thinks there's a rather way to fund it,

1:06:13then that is um we propose and you

1:06:16dispose.

1:06:17ju just and just to to make one more

1:06:19point. I mean, we're we're told that we

1:06:21have some financial challenges coming up

1:06:22in future years and and I understand the

1:06:25school committee took excuse me, the

1:06:26school department took a big hit this

1:06:27year. There's no question about it. But

1:06:29knowing that they have this rainy day

1:06:31fund and they're just sitting on it when

1:06:33all these things need to be upgraded and

1:06:35teach and people are losing their jobs

1:06:36from the school department and now

1:06:38they're coming to us asking us for

1:06:39money. It doesn't sit right. I'm voting

1:06:41no on this tonight. Thank you.

1:06:43>> If I might.

1:06:47You know, I I think I need to get an

1:06:49education on net school spending. And

1:06:52how much of our budget do we do we have

1:06:54to send by law to the school department?

1:07:00>> I mean, that number varies every year.

1:07:01>> Give me a just give me a percentage.

1:07:03>> Um half

1:07:04>> 50% of the whole budget goes to the

1:07:08school department. I can't vote yes on

1:07:11this because uh

1:07:14the school department comes up here and

1:07:15tells us that we need a high school.

1:07:18Unfortunately, my colleagues voted to

1:07:20send it to Wonderland. It's a half a

1:07:22billion dollars.

1:07:24>> Uh yeah, great move. Great move. We'll

1:07:26be in receiverhip. Uh bottom line is the

1:07:30bottom line is I think it's ridiculous

1:07:32that we should be paying for

1:07:35improvements. As much as I know the

1:07:37Garfield school's falling apart, it

1:07:39needs it. It needs the elevator which

1:07:41it's going to have to happen. But I

1:07:43think it should come out of their money.

1:07:45If they got a5 million, $6 million

1:07:47surplus and it's a million dollars to

1:07:51fix the elevators, they should pay it

1:07:53and they should pay the consultants

1:07:55125,000. I don't think you're going to

1:07:57get any support up here tonight for

1:07:59this, but I more importantly, I think

1:08:02that uh I'd like I'd like to get an

1:08:04education on how net school spending

1:08:06works. They tell us you got to give them

1:08:09this money. You can't debate their

1:08:11budget. You can't tell them how to spend

1:08:13this money. You got to give them 50% of

1:08:15all the money from the taxpayers. It's

1:08:17it's disgusting. And uh it it's been for

1:08:2125 years I've been saying the same thing

1:08:24when I don't know how many

1:08:25superintendents I've been through. I've

1:08:26been through a few. But when they uh the

1:08:29the the last one before this one

1:08:33wouldn't even come up and talk to us. At

1:08:34least this one comes up and talks to us

1:08:36and smiles at us. In other words, says,

1:08:39"Yeah, but you can't do anything."

1:08:41So So

1:08:44anyways, that's enough from me. But uh I

1:08:47I vented about my displeasure with the

1:08:50laws that make us give 50% of our budget

1:08:53to the school department and then we got

1:08:55to we got to bite the bullet and pay for

1:08:57these things. I I it doesn't sit well

1:08:59with me.

1:09:01>> You want to speak?

1:09:02>> Yes, please.

1:09:03>> Councelor Jess,

1:09:04>> I asked if anybody else had anything

1:09:06[laughter] to say.

1:09:06>> It's my second time around.

1:09:08>> Oh, all right. Go ahead. Uh, so I I

1:09:10don't have any problem u funding this

1:09:12$125,000,

1:09:14but between now and then um once the

1:09:18cost of the elevators come up, some

1:09:20dialogue with the school committee um as

1:09:23to exactly how much surplus they have. I

1:09:26know next year they anticipate another

1:09:28tough year. I would hate to take a

1:09:31million dollars out of their surplus

1:09:33money and then have them say they have

1:09:35to lay more teachers off or uh take

1:09:38drastic measures. So, um I don't have

1:09:41any problem voting for the 125,000, but

1:09:43maybe between now and when they get the

1:09:47actual cost, some dialogue and what they

1:09:50intend on using this surplus money for

1:09:53next year. I mean, if it's to save

1:09:55teachers and save nurses and, you know,

1:09:58I maybe that's what we need to do. So,

1:10:01>> for what it's worth,

1:10:02>> Thank you.

1:10:04>> Matt Cruz, the school business manager,

1:10:05did give a pretty thorough uh

1:10:08presentation last week on the close out

1:10:10of the fiscal year at the school. So,

1:10:12you may want to watch it because I

1:10:13learned a lot watching it as well.

1:10:16>> But those numbers are contemplating.

1:10:18>> I'm looking for an education, but

1:10:20>> check out check out that meeting.

1:10:21>> I'm not going to change my mind. Uh,

1:10:23Council Sylvestri.

1:10:24>> Uh, thank you, Mr. President, for

1:10:26leeway. I I was kind of on the the same

1:10:28page as councelor Jenzio and and wanted

1:10:31to see um a conversation with the school

1:10:33committee on on possibly splitting the

1:10:35costs here or coming up with a a plan

1:10:37that we we can discuss that makes it a

1:10:39little bit fairer than them just coming

1:10:41up and saying, "Hey, you guys willing to

1:10:43pay for this?" Um, so that was just my

1:10:46idea. Thank you.

1:10:51>> Everybody's done. Okay. Uh,

1:10:57>> call the role. Ma, m Madame Clerk,

1:10:59please. [snorts]

1:11:01>> Shall the city council approve an

1:11:02appropriation from the capital

1:11:04improvement stabilization fund in the

1:11:06amount of $125,000 for the Garfield

1:11:08School elevator design? Councelor

1:11:10Aenzio.

1:11:11>> Yes.

1:11:12>> Yes. Councelor Cogleandro.

1:11:13>> No.

1:11:14>> No. Council Janino,

1:11:16>> yes. Yes. Council go SA.

1:11:18>> No.

1:11:19>> No. Councelor Hass.

1:11:20>> Yes.

1:11:21>> Yes. Councelor Kelly.

1:11:22>> Yes.

1:11:22>> Yes. Council McKenna.

1:11:24>> Yes.

1:11:24>> Yes. Council mccurio.

1:11:26>> No.

1:11:26>> No. Council Noelski.

1:11:28>> No.

1:11:28>> No. Council Sylvestri.

1:11:30>> Yes.

1:11:30>> Yes. And council president Sambutoo?

1:11:32>> No.

1:11:34>> No. The appropriation request fails.

1:11:40Calendar item number 18. communication

1:11:42from the CFO requesting an appropriation

1:11:44in the amount of $50,000 from the

1:11:46capital improvement stabilization fund

1:11:48for citywide tree trimming.

1:11:52I realize this might be a couple days

1:11:54too late.

1:11:58However, we were well intended to try

1:12:01and we still want to try to get some of

1:12:04the backlog of tree trimming done before

1:12:06the the winter comes. Uh that was the

1:12:07idea of it before the noraster. But um

1:12:10you this this body typically does

1:12:12supplemental appropriations from the

1:12:1350,000 we put in the operating budget

1:12:15and we thought it was a good idea to try

1:12:18to get this before the council before

1:12:19the winter even though we usually

1:12:21[snorts] typically bring these up um in

1:12:23the spring when this free cash is

1:12:24certified but probably be a good idea to

1:12:26try to get the balance of these trees

1:12:28trimmed before the winter. So happy to

1:12:30answer any questions.

1:12:31>> Councelor McKenna.

1:12:32>> Thank you Mr. President. Yeah I mean

1:12:35this a lot of the city trees really need

1:12:37to be trimmed. They're really out of

1:12:39control and there's a lot of dead ones,

1:12:41too. I hate to say that, but uh because

1:12:43it breaks my heart, but all right. Thank

1:12:45you.

1:12:46>> Anybody else? Councilor Mccurio.

1:12:48>> Uh thank you, Mr. President. Mr.

1:12:50Visqueke, will this fall under the uh

1:12:52tree contract that we have right now, or

1:12:54will this be a separate bid? And I I

1:12:56believe um don't um hold me to it, but I

1:12:59believe the the current tree contract

1:13:01that we have would encompass uh using

1:13:03these funds, it would fall within the

1:13:05scope and the the not to exceed limit on

1:13:07our contract, but um that'd be a better

1:13:09question um for Nick and Chris, but I

1:13:12can certainly follow up with you. I

1:13:14believe it would be with the contract we

1:13:15have right now, though.

1:13:16>> Okay, great. Thank you. And and year to

1:13:18date, how much have we spent on uh tree

1:13:20removal and tree trimming so far?

1:13:23Um, I'm sorry to bring that information

1:13:25with me, but we usually appropriate

1:13:2650,000 and it's probably one of the

1:13:28first lines that gets depleted in the

1:13:29budget every year. So, I would say up to

1:13:3150,000. That's usually the annual

1:13:33appropriation in the operating budget.

1:13:35>> And didn't we appropriate about $50,000

1:13:37for tree installation work for planting

1:13:39of new trees?

1:13:40>> I believe we bifated it this year just

1:13:41to have some clar uh clarification on

1:13:44tree planting versus tree removing. So,

1:13:46we did split that up in a manner. I

1:13:49believe it was maybe 25,000 and 25,000

1:13:5330 and 20 or something to that effect.

1:13:54But

1:13:55>> so uh there's 50,000 in the appropriated

1:13:57money. Then there was another

1:13:59appropriation of an additional 50. 25 to

1:14:02tree removal and trimming and 25 to tree

1:14:05planting. Now I believe this is an

1:14:07additional 50,000.

1:14:08>> Yeah, that was fiscally at 26. This

1:14:10would actually come out of fiscal year

1:14:11at 27. So right typically it's a $50,000

1:14:14appropriation. We usually follow up with

1:14:16another $50,000 assuming the funds are

1:14:18available. So, this is actually kind of

1:14:20moving that appropriation up from the

1:14:22spring to the fall to try to get the

1:14:24trees addressed before the the cold

1:14:25winter and the snow starts hanging on

1:14:27the branches and

1:14:28>> brings it down. So,

1:14:29>> yep.

1:14:30>> And I and and to be clear, I don't we

1:14:32don't necessarily

1:14:34look at it as if you can't plant the

1:14:36tree with this money, but we did say

1:14:38tree trimming because the spirit of this

1:14:39money is to try to prune all the trees

1:14:41before the winter comes. But,

1:14:43>> a type of appropriation could be used

1:14:44either way.

1:14:45>> Okay. Okay. So, we still have $50,000

1:14:47available to plant trees.

1:14:49>> 25

1:14:50>> 25,000 two plant trees. Yes.

1:14:52>> And you think that will happen this

1:14:53fall?

1:14:55>> Um, I didn't really look at the I was

1:14:57more concerned with getting the trees

1:14:58pruned for the winter, so I didn't look

1:15:00at that budget, but I I can follow up

1:15:01with you.

1:15:02>> So, we can carry that over until the

1:15:03spring of next year.

1:15:04>> I can I can answer that.

1:15:06>> Okay. Wait.

1:15:06>> I can answer that. Go ahead.

1:15:07>> I I spoke to uh the guys down at DPW

1:15:10about a couple of weeks ago. They plan

1:15:12to plant this fall. So, I have my few

1:15:14trees requested. So, if you want to

1:15:17request a few trees, get them in there.

1:15:20Unless I I can spend the whole 25.

1:15:21>> Thanks for that information. [laughter]

1:15:23>> Some of us didn't have that information.

1:15:25That's a nice information.

1:15:27>> Mr. President, can I just add

1:15:28>> Thank you, Mr. Visque.

1:15:29>> Sorry.

1:15:29>> Go ahead, Council.

1:15:30>> Thank you. I got $15,000 from Logistics

1:15:34Link just to plant trees. So, I'd like

1:15:36to add that on to um the 25,000.

1:15:42Certainly, we can um talk about where

1:15:44that money is coming from and where

1:15:45where it goes. This is an appropriation

1:15:47from the capital improvement.

1:15:49>> I'd like to I'd like to give you that.

1:15:50Um I'd like to give to the city because

1:15:52it's in my name.

1:15:54>> You're going to have to do that, sir.

1:15:55>> Okay.

1:15:56>> Absolutely. We can talk offline.

1:16:00Okay. On the uh appropriation,

1:16:03roll call.

1:16:05Shall the city council approve an

1:16:06appropriation from the capital

1:16:08improvement stabilization fund in the

1:16:09amount of $50,000 for citywide tree

1:16:12trimming? Councelor Arenzio.

1:16:14>> Yes.

1:16:14>> Yes. Council Kagglandro.

1:16:16>> Yes.

1:16:16>> Yes. Council Jino.

1:16:17>> Yes.

1:16:18>> Yes. Council Gino SA.

1:16:20>> Yes.

1:16:20>> Yes. Council Hass.

1:16:21>> Yes.

1:16:22>> Yes. Council Kelly.

1:16:23>> Yes.

1:16:23>> Yes. Council McKenna.

1:16:24>> Yes.

1:16:25>> Yes. Council mccario.

1:16:27>> Yes.

1:16:27>> Yes. Councils.

1:16:29>> Yes.

1:16:29>> Yes. Councelor Sylvestri.

1:16:31>> Yes.

1:16:31>> Yes. And council president Zamba.

1:16:33>> Yes.

1:16:33>> Yes. The appropriation has been

1:16:34approved.

1:16:36Calendar item number 19, communication

1:16:38from the CFO requesting an appropriation

1:16:40from the ETP fund in the amount of

1:16:42$3,000 for technology upgrades at the

1:16:45public library.

1:16:47>> Thank you. Um this uh appropriation was

1:16:50approved through the ETP committee um

1:16:54last week or the week before. Uh since

1:16:56those funds are subject to appropriation

1:16:58by this body, we are just uh basically

1:17:01uh confirming that that was approved and

1:17:03seeking appropriation from this body for

1:17:04those uh technology upgrades at the

1:17:06library.

1:17:07>> Roll call.

1:17:10>> Council Novasowski.

1:17:11>> Thank you. Very quickly, if I may, um I

1:17:14think this is very important for the

1:17:15library. Of

1:17:15>> course it is.

1:17:16>> Uh unfortunately, it's only $3,000.

1:17:20I would like to see more done for that

1:17:22library down in the long run. I'd like

1:17:24to see an addition built onto the

1:17:26library because it's so small and it's

1:17:29very historic. Uh but you know, I'd like

1:17:32to see more done. I'm I'm father's

1:17:3430,000, but I was hoping that they would

1:17:37ask for more and we could give them

1:17:38more. Thank you.

1:17:39>> Yeah, just to be clear, that's that was

1:17:40the request. It wasn't like the request

1:17:42was reduced. So, they requested 3,000

1:17:44for some smartboards, I believe, in the

1:17:46library. So, um it wasn't it wasn't cut.

1:17:49The 3,000 exactly what they asked for.

1:17:53Roll call.

1:17:56>> Shall the city council approve an

1:17:57appropriation from the ETP funds in the

1:17:59amount of $3,000 for River Public

1:18:01Library technology upgrades? Councelor

1:18:03Aenzio.

1:18:04>> Yes.

1:18:04>> Yes. Council Kaggleandro.

1:18:06>> Yes.

1:18:06>> Yes. Councelor Gino.

1:18:08>> Yes.

1:18:08>> Yes. Council Garino Slaya.

1:18:09>> Yes.

1:18:10>> Yes. Councelor Hass.

1:18:11>> Yes.

1:18:11>> Yes. Councelor Kelly.

1:18:12>> Yes.

1:18:13>> Yes. Councelor McKenna.

1:18:14>> Yes.

1:18:14>> Yes. Councelor Mccurio.

1:18:15>> Yes.

1:18:16>> Yes. Council Bilski.

1:18:17>> Yes.

1:18:18>> Yes. Council Sylvestri.

1:18:19>> Yes.

1:18:20>> Yes. And council president Zambudo.

1:18:22>> Yes.

1:18:22>> Yes. The appropriation has been

1:18:23approved.

1:18:26Calendar item number 20, communication

1:18:28from the CFO requesting an appropriation

1:18:30from the cable access receipt reserve

1:18:32fund in the amount of $83,24244

1:18:36to pay for Reier TV's quarterly invoice.

1:18:41>> Thank you. Um, every quarter we come

1:18:43before you to appropriate these monies.

1:18:45These monies are collected as part of

1:18:47the uh cable agreements in the city and

1:18:49we are just a conduit from those funds

1:18:51to [snorts] uh center TV for their

1:18:54operating. So um pretty standard and uh

1:18:56happy to answer any questions.

1:18:57>> Roll call.

1:19:00>> Shall the city council approve an

1:19:01appropriation from the cable access

1:19:02receipt reserve fund in the amount of

1:19:04$83,24244

1:19:09TV's quarterly invoice. Councelor

1:19:11Aenzio.

1:19:12>> Yes.

1:19:13>> Yes. Councelor Cogleandro. Yes.

1:19:15>> Yes. Councelor Janino.

1:19:16>> Yes.

1:19:16>> Yes. Councelor Go SA.

1:19:18>> Yes.

1:19:18>> Yes. Councelor Hass.

1:19:20>> Yes.

1:19:20>> Yes. Councelor Kelly.

1:19:21>> Yes.

1:19:21>> Yes. Councelor McKenna.

1:19:22>> Yes.

1:19:23>> Yes. Council Mccurio.

1:19:24>> Yes.

1:19:24>> Yes. Council Nasellski.

1:19:26>> Yes.

1:19:26>> Yes. Council Sylvester.

1:19:28>> Yes.

1:19:28>> Yes. And Council President Zambo.

1:19:30>> Yes.

1:19:30>> Yes. The appropriation has been

1:19:32approved.

1:19:36>> Motions. Calendar item number 21. Motion

1:19:39presented by councilors Kaggleandro and

1:19:41Gino Suaya that the mayor request the

1:19:43chief of planning and community

1:19:44development to conduct an intersection

1:19:46configuration study at the intersection

1:19:48of Broadway and Revier Street to include

1:19:51but not limited to lane configuration

1:19:53delineation markings, parking

1:19:55restrictions and crosswalks and curb

1:19:57ramps.

1:19:58>> Councelor Cargleandro.

1:20:02>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um filed this

1:20:05with my colleague councel SA. This is an

1:20:09area that is split between three and

1:20:10five. Um

1:20:13the real issue here is that street is

1:20:16incredibly narrow. The the lights at

1:20:19that intersection have also been called

1:20:20into question multiple times. And the

1:20:23parking issue, I know that citations

1:20:25have been issued, but there's a loading

1:20:27uh loading zone only parking spot right

1:20:29in front of the uh Max restaurant. And

1:20:32what happens is it's used properly and

1:20:34then it's used improperly and then cars

1:20:37park behind that. That street in

1:20:40particular, that portion, if you're

1:20:41driving towards Broadway, there's a bike

1:20:43lane that ends and then it splits into

1:20:45two lanes. And now uh I forgive me, I

1:20:49don't know the number of the bus that

1:20:50takes that turn, but God bless that that

1:20:53person, the 44 411

1:20:56>> 4 something. It's 400 and something. God

1:20:58bless that driver. I don't know how they

1:21:00don't take out cars taking that turn.

1:21:02Um, so I'm just hoping they can take a

1:21:04look at it because it is a very

1:21:06dangerous and uncomfortable

1:21:08intersection. Uh, even speaking of

1:21:10crossing guards, they've also complained

1:21:12about the the traffic over there as

1:21:14well. So, thank you.

1:21:16>> Thank you, Council Councelor Gino Slaya.

1:21:19>> Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you,

1:21:20Council Carandra, for including me in

1:21:22the motion. Um, I'm particularly

1:21:24concerned with what you just mentioned.

1:21:26um on the right side of River Street, if

1:21:28you're taking the turn on to um from

1:21:30Broadway,

1:21:32um when the cars are parked too close to

1:21:33that corner, even though it does say

1:21:35you're not supposed to park there, they

1:21:36there's supposed to be active um

1:21:39unloading, but what happens is cars

1:21:42actually park out there to go into the

1:21:43various establishments that are um in

1:21:45the vicinity. And the trucks and buses

1:21:48do have a hard time going around the

1:21:50corner, taking that turn. um the layout

1:21:52becomes even more challenging where the

1:21:54lane splits into the two lanes on the

1:21:56right side on the opposite side of the

1:21:59street at the traffic light. So um I

1:22:02hope the study will help and um it will

1:22:06help the the residents that in that area

1:22:08and also help with the flow of traffic

1:22:11once it's taken care of. Thank you.

1:22:15>> Anyone else on the motion? All in favor?

1:22:17All opposed? So audited

1:22:22>> calendar item number 22 motion presented

1:22:24by councel McKenna that the mayor be

1:22:26requested to contact the United States

1:22:28Postal Service to investigate as to why

1:22:29rever residents are not receiving mail

1:22:31every day. Residents have been rep

1:22:33reporting that mail delivery only occurs

1:22:35about once per week.

1:22:38>> Thank you, Mr. President.

1:22:41Miss Miss Vice President,

1:22:44um I've talked to a number of uh Revier

1:22:46residents that aren't getting their meal

1:22:48every day, twice a week. One lady said

1:22:51she didn't get her mail for two weeks.

1:22:53Um

1:22:54not everybody that needs meds goes to

1:22:58CVS. Uh what concerns me is if residents

1:23:01get medicine through their meal and it's

1:23:05late and they depend on it, what

1:23:07happens? Um so I'm And I asked friends

1:23:11in Stoneham, Saras, Winthrop, and

1:23:14Medford if they had any problems with

1:23:16the delivery of their meal and they said

1:23:18no. So I'm just wondering if it's is it

1:23:21reve um so I just like an inquiry of

1:23:25what's going on in reveal with the mail.

1:23:27I know for myself I didn't I haven't

1:23:30gotten mail since Thursday and today's

1:23:33Monday. Um we don't we have one um part

1:23:38I think I think he's part-time. I don't

1:23:40know, but he we have one um mailman that

1:23:43he's constant. He always comes, but if

1:23:46he doesn't come, then no one else comes.

1:23:49So, I'm just wondering what's going on.

1:23:51So, thank you,

1:23:55>> Mr. Nolleski.

1:23:57>> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um

1:24:00councelor, I understand exactly what

1:24:02you're going through. I have it in my

1:24:04neighborhood, but I have a regular male

1:24:07person and he tells me they have trouble

1:24:11getting help and some of the roots that

1:24:15they have to bid on are very, very

1:24:18difficult. I don't know where this young

1:24:20person lives that's having a problem,

1:24:22but I remember the 50 Walnut Avenue

1:24:26didn't get me for two weeks.

1:24:29And unfortunately, it was under COVID

1:24:31and they wouldn't go into the CO

1:24:32building for two weeks. They didn't get

1:24:35meals. But finally, they were told they

1:24:37have to wear masks and they went in. So,

1:24:40we finally got that done. But lack of

1:24:43help is a big issue in trying to get

1:24:45people to for carriers. That's why you

1:24:47just recently, for those of you who just

1:24:48got mail, found a little card looking

1:24:51for people to

1:24:53look for jobs for the from the postal

1:24:56service. So, uh they're probably all in

1:24:58her mail right now, but um

1:25:01>> I didn't get mail today.

1:25:02>> It's you know, I did. And uh so that

1:25:05that's the that's the story that I I

1:25:07received from one my mail carrier. Thank

1:25:10you,

1:25:11>> Madam Clerk. If you call the role.

1:25:14Wait, one more. Councelor Aenzio,

1:25:17>> thank you very much. Uh when I first got

1:25:19into office, this was like the first

1:25:20complaint I got and I and you're exactly

1:25:23correct. Uh Council Novaski, um I

1:25:27complained. I went to the headquarters.

1:25:29I called Boston. They said we just don't

1:25:32have the help. Um and the routes are

1:25:35exactly correct up where we live up on

1:25:37Reservoir Avenue. It's not a desirable

1:25:40route. So you get a person, they they

1:25:44start delivering the mail and then you

1:25:47know the point of pine shows up then

1:25:49they bid out on that because there's two

1:25:51or three steps. So it it's a problem.

1:25:54They don't have help. Uh it has improved

1:25:57itself recently up where I live. We we

1:26:00have a permanent person, but it's been

1:26:02going on for years up where I live and

1:26:05it's just a lack of help. So if anyone

1:26:09looking for a job, I guess. So

1:26:12thank you.

1:26:27>> All in favor? All opposed?

1:26:32>> Calendar item number 23. Motion

1:26:34presented by councelor Kelly that the

1:26:36mayor be requested to establish through

1:26:37the CFO and water and sewer department a

1:26:40one season pilot program for residents

1:26:42who do not have a separate exterior

1:26:43water meter and qualify for the city's

1:26:45senior water and sore discount program.

1:26:48Namely [clears throat] residents aed 65

1:26:49and older who are the owner of record

1:26:52and occupy a one, two, or three family

1:26:54property. The city would establish each

1:26:57participating senior's average winter

1:26:58water usage to be used as a baseline for

1:27:01the July and October billing periods.

1:27:03The senior would pay for all water used,

1:27:05but sore charges would be based on the

1:27:07winter baseline, thereby eliminating

1:27:09soore charges on excess seasonal usage,

1:27:12if any. Following the pilot, the water

1:27:14and soore department shall report to the

1:27:16city council the number of participants,

1:27:18total sore credits provided, and its

1:27:20recommendations regarding continuation

1:27:22and/or expansion of the program.

1:27:25>> Councelor Kelly.

1:27:26>> Thank you, Mr. President. So, I know

1:27:28this issue was brought up um maybe a

1:27:31year, two years ago, and it's been a

1:27:34problem for seniors because the city

1:27:37used to allow for exterior water meters

1:27:40um to read water so that sewer charges

1:27:44would not be applied to exterior water

1:27:47usage. Apparently, there was some abuse

1:27:49in that system and we now have an

1:27:52ordinance on the books that does not

1:27:53allow for those exterior meters provided

1:27:56for by the city any longer. So, what

1:27:59seniors are faced with is then to hire a

1:28:03licensed plumber and they're faced with

1:28:06the burden of the cost of installation

1:28:08of these meters. And in some cases, the

1:28:12cost is very costly. So, for everybody's

1:28:15system and and plumbing is different,

1:28:17but someone called me and said he got an

1:28:19estimate it would be about $2,500 if he

1:28:21wanted to put this this exterior water

1:28:23meter in. Since we all know on our water

1:28:26bill the greatest um or the larger

1:28:29amount of the fee has to do with the

1:28:31sewer charge. So, they're forced to

1:28:34either not use exterior water at all or

1:28:37pay this exorbitant amount for exterior

1:28:40um for sewer charges on exterior water.

1:28:42So, if if the council is not in favor of

1:28:45this, I know that it's not a perfect um

1:28:48solution, but it's something. And that's

1:28:50why I'm asking to just try it in a pilot

1:28:52program. There are some other

1:28:54communities that do this. Um I think it

1:28:57was conquered North B North Bridge and

1:28:59Milford use this type of a program.

1:29:02Melrose has a different program where

1:29:03they just use a 90%

1:29:06um and and do a 10% discount. 90% for

1:29:09water and sewer. 10% is not subject to a

1:29:12sewer charge. So again, I know there

1:29:17might be some challenges

1:29:18administratively here, but I think they

1:29:20could be overcome. I think the number

1:29:22that we would be looking at would be

1:29:24low. Um, again, the seniors would be

1:29:27qualifying seniors that already qualify

1:29:30in the tier program that we have. So, I

1:29:33think this is something that we should

1:29:34try um just for this pilot and see how

1:29:37it works because they do need some kind

1:29:39of relief in this regard. Thank you.

1:29:45>> Anybody else? Councelor Mccurial.

1:29:47>> I'd like to take this one step further.

1:29:49The the cost of $2500 is, I believe,

1:29:53$400 for the meter. So, I'd like to see

1:29:56maybe the s the city of River um exempt

1:30:00seniors for paying that $400 fee for the

1:30:03meter or give it at a a reduced rate. Um

1:30:06I'd like to take that one step further

1:30:08and I think it would be a a great

1:30:10program for the seniors to get involved

1:30:12in. Thank you, Mr. President.

1:30:14>> Anybody else? This is going to

1:30:16committee. Um I think it's going to ways

1:30:19and means. Um,

1:30:22if I might, I think I think the cost to

1:30:26the meetings are 400 bucks

1:30:28>> and they don't they don't upcharge that.

1:30:32So, now we're going to have to find a

1:30:34pool of money to pay for if we want to

1:30:36give them to seniors. We got to pay for

1:30:38it. So, uh, that's why this is going to

1:30:41ways and means.

1:30:41>> But wait a minute, my motion's not

1:30:43asking for c for anything to be paid

1:30:46for.

1:30:47>> Okay. My mot So, so why would it go to

1:30:50ways and means? because my motion is

1:30:52asking that a baseline be established

1:30:56for winter water usage. Okay? So, say

1:31:00someone's using 3,000, I don't know,

1:31:013,000 gallons over the winter and then

1:31:04the summer months they use 4,000

1:31:06gallons. The $1,000 overage would not be

1:31:09subject to a sewer charge. They would

1:31:11pay what? So, it's not we're not asking

1:31:14to come up with funds here. We're asking

1:31:17for an adjustment to be made so that

1:31:19exterior water usage is not subjected to

1:31:22sewer charges.

1:31:22>> I'm not going to argue that point. The

1:31:24point is it still affects the budget. It

1:31:28still affects the money that is not

1:31:31going to be in the water and sewer

1:31:33budget because it's we're going to we

1:31:35we've got to find a way to offset that.

1:31:37That's my only point. Uh Council Gino

1:31:41SA.

1:31:42>> Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you,

1:31:43Councelor Kelly, for bringing this

1:31:44motion forward. It's it's a thoughtful

1:31:46and practical proposal. Um I appreciate

1:31:49your attention you're giving to the

1:31:51seniors and you're trying to manage the

1:31:52water and sewer bills especially on a

1:31:54fixed income. Reier already has um it

1:31:58offers a senior water and sewer discount

1:32:01and this motion asks whether we can

1:32:03build on it. Right. That's all it's

1:32:05asking. Right.

1:32:07It's asking that the the the exterior

1:32:11water that they use during the summer

1:32:13months will not be subjected to sewer

1:32:16charges. They would still be paying for

1:32:18a water charge for consumption. It's

1:32:20just that that water does not run

1:32:21through the sewer and yet they're being

1:32:24>> Okay. I

1:32:24>> Okay. So,

1:32:25>> so much for this back and forth.

1:32:27>> No, no, no. It's not back and forth.

1:32:28>> Through the chair.

1:32:29>> Through the chair. So, in the warmer

1:32:31months, water used outdoors may never

1:32:34enter the sewer system. Right. So using

1:32:37winter usage as a baseline is definitely

1:32:41worth exploring because I support a once

1:32:45I definitely uh support the one season

1:32:47pilot to report back to the council. I

1:32:50think it's it would be very very

1:32:52beneficial for us. It's just a pilot

1:32:54program. So I agree with councelor

1:32:56Kelly.

1:32:57>> Good. We're going to discuss it in ways

1:32:59and means.

1:33:00>> Why and means?

1:33:02>> Ways and means.

1:33:03>> I I'm sorry, Mr. President. And I don't

1:33:05understand the reasoning why this would

1:33:06go to Ways and Means.

1:33:07>> It should.

1:33:08>> It's not a cost. The Ways and Means is a

1:33:10cost of over $5,000. Correct.

1:33:12>> That's where I sent it. Councelor

1:33:14Argenzio.

1:33:15>> Oh. Uh I just the why you're sending it

1:33:18to Ways and Means. I because if you give

1:33:21the discount to the seniors, which I'm

1:33:23100% for, the city will be collecting

1:33:26less money. And then there'll be

1:33:29discussion as to how do you make up the

1:33:33money that was reduced from these

1:33:37residents. So I know we all had uh we

1:33:40were pulling our hair out of their head

1:33:42with the u rate that we uh voted in

1:33:45there. Um, so maybe a the water

1:33:49department can do a little bit of

1:33:50analysis to see how much money we won't

1:33:54be collecting and if that could be

1:33:57absorbed some way without it affecting

1:33:59the rate.

1:34:01>> Just my thoughts. Amen.

1:34:02>> Thanks. Bye.

1:34:04>> Thank you. Thank you for that input and

1:34:07thank you for backing me up that it

1:34:09belongs in ways and means. Uh, I I was

1:34:11going to bring up the CFO, but I didn't

1:34:13want to embarrass him. Um,

1:34:18>> council McKenna,

1:34:20>> I So, thank you, Mr. President. I want

1:34:22to know, we had this program with

1:34:25outdoor meters for 10 years. So, how did

1:34:29the city pay for it then

1:34:32>> by raising the rate?

1:34:33>> Raising the rate? No.

1:34:35>> Yes.

1:34:36>> Yeah. Yeah. If if you collect less

1:34:38money, you have to make it up some other

1:34:39way,

1:34:40>> which you know.

1:34:43>> All right.

1:34:46>> All right. I'm let I've given leeway to

1:34:48everybody. So, councelor Cogleandra.

1:34:51>> So, I understand why this is going to

1:34:53ways and means. It's the essentially we

1:34:56need to have a financial impact

1:34:58statement done on it.

1:34:59>> Exactly. [snorts]

1:34:59>> So, it's a great idea. I support this

1:35:02idea. Let's just see what it's going to

1:35:04cost. That's all I wanted to do.

1:35:06>> I know. And I I think you know

1:35:08>> whatever Mr. President,

1:35:10>> ways and means.

1:35:13>> This this issue is over.

1:35:18>> Challenge the ruling of the chair. Mr.

1:35:20President.

1:35:21>> Okay. Challenge the rule of the chair.

1:35:25>> Why?

1:35:25>> I want to say my piece.

1:35:27>> We have we have an ordinance that says

1:35:29we have to do this. Why are we

1:35:30challenging this?

1:35:33I just wanted to have some input. That's

1:35:34all. I wanted my chance to speak like

1:35:37everybody else did.

1:35:38>> Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you spoke. You

1:35:40can you can speak. No, I did not.

1:35:41>> Okay. I apologize. Go ahead. Thank you,

1:35:43>> Council Novaski.

1:35:44>> Mr. President, you know, I I can

1:35:46understand why it's going to ways and

1:35:47means, but I think it's a great great

1:35:49idea. I do.

1:35:50>> Can I make a suggestion that when we ask

1:35:52the committee or someone to come up to

1:35:55have somebody from DPW water to come up

1:35:58here?

1:35:58>> I agree.

1:35:59>> To see if this is really is feasible. I

1:36:01agree with it.

1:36:02>> The the council may feel it's feasible,

1:36:05but we have to look how it

1:36:06>> reacts within the department.

1:36:09>> Perfect.

1:36:09>> So, you know, that's all I ask is that

1:36:11we have someone from water and sewer or

1:36:13someone from finance.

1:36:14>> I agree with you 100%.

1:36:15>> And discuss it. Thank you.

1:36:16>> Yeah. Okay. That's all.

1:36:19>> Is it?

1:36:20>> I hope so.

1:36:23[laughter]

1:36:23>> Just one more.

1:36:24>> I know you are. Just one more thing,

1:36:28>> madame clerk.

1:36:30Challenge item number 24. Motion

1:36:31presented by council goa that the mayor

1:36:33request the appropriate city departments

1:36:35to immediately coordinate with DCR

1:36:37regarding the river beach boulevard

1:36:39milling and paving project scheduled

1:36:40from September 27th through October 23rd

1:36:44and provide the city council with a

1:36:45written traffic and neighborhood impact

1:36:47plan. The plan should identify all

1:36:49detour routes, anticipated impacts on

1:36:51Rea Street, Northshore Road, and

1:36:53surrounding W five neighborhoods,

1:36:55overnight equipment, staging locations,

1:36:56noise and lighting controls, parking

1:36:58restrictions, emergency access

1:37:00arrangements, and the method of timing

1:37:01of notifications to residents and

1:37:03businesses. DCR shall also be requested

1:37:05to provide a designated project contact

1:37:08and telephone number for questions or

1:37:10complaints and to post that information

1:37:12clearly at the work site throughout the

1:37:14project.

1:37:16Councelor Gino SA

1:37:17>> I'm going to pull this motion because

1:37:19they did comply already. Uh we all got a

1:37:22notification today of the work that was

1:37:24being done. Thank you.

1:37:25>> Motion withdrawn.

1:37:31>> Calendar item number 25. Motion

1:37:33presented by councelor Go SA that the

1:37:35mayor request planning and community

1:37:37development in coordination with the

1:37:38department of public works and

1:37:39engineering to identify and submit up to

1:37:42two W 5 coastal resilience project

1:37:45concepts during the FY28 environment and

1:37:47climate one-stop expression of interest

1:37:50period which closes on October 16th. The

1:37:52city should consider flood access and

1:37:54evacuation in Point of Pines, drainage

1:37:56in Oak Island of Riverside, shoreline

1:37:59protection near Gibson Park, and

1:38:01flooding along Reier Beach Boulevard

1:38:02Northshore Road Corridor. The department

1:38:05should report to the city council with

1:38:07concepts they select, the feedback

1:38:09received from the state and their plan

1:38:11for the formal grant application.

1:38:15>> Councelor Green Slaya.

1:38:17>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um, Ward 5

1:38:19knows firsthand what flooding and storm

1:38:21surge can mean for our neighborhoods.

1:38:24Um, this is an opportunity to bring the

1:38:27state

1:38:29two well-developed ideas while there is

1:38:32still time to get feedback. So until we

1:38:35have until October 16th, which is the

1:38:38filing deadline, um this was brought to

1:38:41me from a constituent who is really

1:38:43concerned and um

1:38:45>> I had to bring it to the council. I'm

1:38:48asking our planning

1:38:49>> planning and public works department to

1:38:52look closely at access draining drainage

1:38:56short line protection and evacuation

1:38:59needs and tell the council which

1:39:01projects they recommend moving forward

1:39:03when it comes to storm surge. Thank you.

1:39:09>> Anyone else?

1:39:12All in favor? All opposed. So order

1:39:16>> late motion presented by council

1:39:18president Zambudo that the city council

1:39:20discontinue the practice of utilizing

1:39:21the police department to hand deliver

1:39:23hard copy council packets to counselor's

1:39:25homes. Hard copy packets will remade

1:39:28available for pickup in the city clerk's

1:39:29office for those counselors who still

1:39:31wish to receive a hard copy in addition

1:39:33to receiving the packet via email.

1:39:36>> Anybody mind if I speak on my motion

1:39:38here?

1:39:40>> Thank you.

1:39:42We've we've reached a point of uh

1:39:44ridiculousness here. We we don't need

1:39:48the police delivering the packages to

1:39:50the to the door. It's so we're, you

1:39:53know, I'm I'm a dinosaur when it comes

1:39:56to uh technology, but guess what? I can

1:40:00I can handle electron all electronic.

1:40:03And I think we we got to move into the

1:40:0421st century here. The council packets

1:40:08will still be available in the clerk's

1:40:10office for pickup. So, uh, that's my

1:40:13motion. That's why I put it in. It's

1:40:14we've reached a point of, uh, really

1:40:17ridiculousness. Council Sylvestri.

1:40:20>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um, I

1:40:22completely agree with your your motion.

1:40:24Um, I actually been getting my hard copy

1:40:27in the the clerk's office since, uh,

1:40:29being elected. I I think it removes

1:40:32resources um from the street and uh no

1:40:36need to do it. Continue.

1:40:39>> Councelor Cogleandro.

1:40:43>> Thank you, Mr. President. Full support

1:40:45of this. Couple of things. I received an

1:40:47email from the chief of police and the

1:40:49superintendent of the DPW fully in

1:40:52support of this motion in discontinuing

1:40:54the delivery of these packets. Further,

1:40:57there is an ordinance on the books 2

1:40:59uh.12.030

1:41:01regular meetings. This needs to be

1:41:04repealed completely. This says, I don't

1:41:06even want to say what it says because

1:41:08we're in violation of it, but uh this is

1:41:10the ordinance that we should remove the

1:41:12whole thing. The clerk of the council

1:41:13shall notify the councils of all

1:41:15meetings of the council by notice

1:41:17delivered personally or by an officer or

1:41:19sent by mail. We have to get rid of

1:41:20this. So this was done I think uh madame

1:41:24clerk you said 1985 was when this

1:41:26ordinance was created.

1:41:28So 41 years ago.

1:41:31>> So I'm

1:41:32>> What do they have back then? The iPhone

1:41:332. I have no idea.

1:41:34>> So you got

1:41:36>> there was a Thanks.

1:41:38>> You got to put that mo you got to change

1:41:40that ordinance then.

1:41:41>> Well, could I put it on the floor as a

1:41:42motion?

1:41:43>> I I don't see why not.

1:41:48I'm sorry,

1:41:51>> Council. Wait a minute.

1:41:55>> Okay,

1:41:56>> we can handle this one and I'd like to

1:41:57put this motion to repeal this ordinance

1:41:59on the floor.

1:42:00>> Okay.

1:42:01>> Yeah, let everybody speak and I'll do it

1:42:02after.

1:42:03>> Yeah. Counc.

1:42:04>> Thank you, Mr. President. I might be in

1:42:06the minority up here, but I do

1:42:08appreciate the tradition of it. Um, it's

1:42:11something I saw as a kid. It's something

1:42:13I get to do now. You know, you get to

1:42:15see the police officers. Some of them

1:42:16you know, some of them you don't know.

1:42:19You can say, "Have a good night. Be

1:42:20safe." You ask what's going on in the

1:42:21city. It's a nice nice little gesture. I

1:42:23understand if the the chief and the DPW

1:42:26chief um don't feel that it's it's

1:42:30useful right now. But I will say that I

1:42:32do enjoy the tradition of it. You know,

1:42:34it's one more thing that's going to go

1:42:36um that's going to that's going to go by

1:42:38uh go bye-bye. But, you know,

1:42:41>> I'm strongly uh against it and would

1:42:43love to see it continue. Thanks. I hope

1:42:45you're in the minority. Uh it's a uh

1:42:50concert.

1:42:52>> Thank you, Mr. President. Um I'm sorry.

1:42:55>> Before we eliminate the home delivery

1:42:57alto together,

1:42:58>> we could look at a simpler way to to for

1:43:02this process. My understanding is the

1:43:04DPW

1:43:06is involved in transferring it to trans

1:43:09transferring pick they pick up the

1:43:10packets from city hall. They transfer it

1:43:12to the police station and then the

1:43:15police station in turn brings it to us.

1:43:17Could we remove that extra step alto

1:43:19together and have an officer that's

1:43:21assigned to this area prior to them them

1:43:26starting work come to the clerk's office

1:43:28and pick it up before their shift and

1:43:30then do the deliveries as as usual

1:43:33because I

1:43:34>> I am one of the people that does like

1:43:37when it is hand delivered. I want a

1:43:40paper packet.

1:43:41>> Okay. Um,

1:43:42>> all right.

1:43:43>> Before we discontinue the service,

1:43:45>> uh, Council Novasowski, I I was supposed

1:43:47to call in before you.

1:43:50>> Council,

1:43:50>> thank you, Mr. President. Um, I'm one of

1:43:53the additional minorities on this. U,

1:43:56listen, I'm the oldest guy here. I've

1:43:58been getting packets for 26 years,

1:44:02plus the two years I had before. So, um,

1:44:06>> I like a hard copy, too.

1:44:08>> You know, I like getting it. And it's

1:44:10nothing. nothing for the cops to deliver

1:44:12them to our house. They're in the

1:44:14district anyways. It's their zone.

1:44:17>> So, they're not going out of their way

1:44:19to do it.

1:44:20>> So, I'm And I know my my neighborhood

1:44:22likes seeing a cruiser stop by my house

1:44:25knowing that they're in the area. Thank

1:44:27you,

1:44:32>> Councilor Janino.

1:44:34I can speak for the police department

1:44:35from when I used to deliver them to Ira

1:44:3726 years ago

1:44:39>> and yourself and usually it was the

1:44:41center car

1:44:42>> that would go out and deliver to that

1:44:44area. I never minded deliver delivering

1:44:46the packets because I got to speak to

1:44:47the counselors.

1:44:48>> Yeah.

1:44:49>> Got updated on it. However, since I've

1:44:51been in office, I've got mine delivered

1:44:54once by the police. The rest of the time

1:44:56has been electronically all picked up in

1:44:57the clerk's office. So, it's kind of got

1:45:00>> 50/50 on it.

1:45:02Okay. So, we get a motion on the floor

1:45:05from

1:45:07>> Oh, I'm sorry. Did I cut Did

1:45:10>> Go ahead. No, Council McKenna. Everybody

1:45:12gets a chance here.

1:45:13>> Thank you very much, Mr. President. I

1:45:16love you.

1:45:17>> I love you, too.

1:45:18>> Um, I just want to say that I'm the

1:45:20dinosaur, too. I I really appreciate my

1:45:23um my paper of my package. I have

1:45:27dyslexia which probably I this is the

1:45:30first time I revealed this. It's very

1:45:32easy for me to read uh paper than to be

1:45:36on a computer. And I hate to say that

1:45:39but it's true. I can't read from my

1:45:40phone. I have to get a big computer and

1:45:44it this is very easy for me to um you

1:45:47know do my homework and everything

1:45:48because I it's right there for me. Thank

1:45:51you.

1:45:51>> Thank you. Uh you can't you can't drive

1:45:54to city hall to pick it up.

1:45:55>> I can. Oh, okay. Um,

1:45:58>> you didn't say that to her.

1:46:00>> No, I I I'm saying it to everybody.

1:46:04>> Um,

1:46:06well, first we got to we got to vote on

1:46:08the motion I put on first. Correct. And

1:46:11then you can put your motion.

1:46:13>> This is your Mr. I'm sorry, Mr.

1:46:16President, if I may.

1:46:17>> Yeah. Go ahead.

1:46:18>> I'm just wondering because there's an

1:46:20ordinance if your motion is allowed. Do

1:46:24you know what I'm saying? And if we vote

1:46:25yes on it and we decide to not do it

1:46:27without changing the ordinance, are we

1:46:29in violation somehow?

1:46:32>> Madame clerk, what do you think about

1:46:34that?

1:46:44>> We're going to do both anyway.

1:47:20So that that could be my motion is still

1:47:22legal.

1:47:24>> There's a motion. All in favor? All

1:47:26oppose?

1:47:27>> I don't know. Roll call.

1:47:30>> Okay. Roll call.

1:47:32>> Roll call on the late motion that the

1:47:34city

1:47:35>> roll call on the late motion. Councelor

1:47:37Aenzio.

1:47:38>> Yes.

1:47:38>> Yes. Yes. Council Kogleandro,

1:47:41>> yes.

1:47:41>> Yes. Council Jino,

1:47:44>> yes.

1:47:44>> Yes. Councelor Gino SA.

1:47:46>> No.

1:47:47>> No. Councelor Hass,

1:47:48>> no.

1:47:48>> No. Council Kelly is absent. Council

1:47:51McKenna.

1:47:52>> No.

1:47:52>> No. Council mccurio.

1:47:53>> No.

1:47:54>> No. Council Vaselski.

1:47:55>> No.

1:47:56>> No. Councelor Sylvestri.

1:47:58>> Yes.

1:47:59>> Yes. And Council President Zambo.

1:48:01>> Yes.

1:48:02>> Yes. The motion fails.

1:48:05>> No further.

1:48:06>> Leandro. You have a motion? I did.

1:48:10>> No, I'll put it on.

1:48:11>> Well,

1:48:13shut up.

1:48:14>> There are other portions of this or one

1:48:17other portion specifically that we

1:48:18should pay attention to. Uh unless

1:48:20everybody is wanting to have council

1:48:22meetings every 1st, second, and third

1:48:24Monday. I suggest we repeal this

1:48:26ordinance.

1:48:28Uh motion on the floor by myself

1:48:33to repeal Rever City Ordinance section

1:48:362.12.03. 030 regular meetings in its

1:48:39entirety

1:48:42>> and order it to a public miring.

1:48:47>> Any discussion on this motion?

1:48:50Council Sylvestri second it. Okay.

1:48:54On the on the motion, all in favor

1:48:57I'll Oh, audit. We'll audit this to a

1:48:59public hearing on the what is it? 26th.

1:49:03October 26th.

1:49:07No further business. This council stands

1:49:09adjourned till October 5th. Thank you

1:49:12all.