2026-10-29 - Veterans Affairs Task Force

That's all right. >> Yeah. See >> you like a juke box should be back. >> I know. This is great. >> All right. I guess we're live. Um Oh, we do have a flag. Excellent. We'll start We'll start with the

pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. Live

from the small conference room. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. So, right off the right off the rip, um, well, we'll we'll go we'll go to Rick first. So, go ahead. >> While Rick is here, he's got an idea

of putting the information that we have and on our war memorials. And I thought he came to me. So, I said, "Well, you better check with the task force to see if they would agree to let him get

started." and then he would bring the project to us. Okay. >> So, I know I had a conversation with Rick also um before he left the schools um about the same thing. Um so getting the information I

think was my biggest thing. Um I thought Mary might have a lot of that. Um but why don't you uh Yeah, why don't you go ahead Keith and Sue >> for all of our viewers. >> Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm

Rick Badard. In case you don't know, I was the assistant superintendent for finance for the school department um till July. Um and and I just recently retired. Um during my last few years, um as kind

of a hobby um I looked at the veteran monuments in the city of Worcester and I told Stu this one time when I talked to him. Um, and I actually visited, they have online, they they show you on a map

all the individual monuments for the soldiers and the service members in Worcester on a map. Um, and I went to look at all 237 of them individually. I I brought a book I could show you them. Um, so I

I like the hike, I like the walk, and I like I like the history to learn about those folks because when you see the monument, that's only showing you part of it. Um, so I did a little bit more

research into each individual. Um, so that's one of the things I did just to give you a little background of what I did the last few years on my spare time. Now that I'm a little ret now that I'm

retired and I have a little bit more time, um, I never realized until kind of my end end of my tenure here in Milbury how many of these individual monuments you have in town. Um, and just doing a

little research myself with Keith and Stuart and and also your wife that let me into the historical museum. Um, there's there's between 26 and 31 individ individual monuments around town um that we

have. So, I it gave me the idea I wanted to visit all them. You can see my my circle marks how many I've already visited. Um, but it also gave me an idea, and I'm going to pass this out. I got one for

everybody. I had kind of an idea and a proposal for the town of Milbury. I wanted to kind of talk to you about tonight and see if you could give me the the approval to do that. >> If you could pass

it. >> Sure. I think I got enough I got I got one more. Yep. Got another. >> Thank you. >> So again, my contact information is is up above, but my proposal is to document and post on a new town of

Milbury web page. It would be connected to the official town web page. This would be in, you know, would still have the same website, but there would be one layer, one page that would have this

information. um which would locate all the Milbury veterans monuments including the detailed background information that I found out at Asia Waters at the historical museum. Um so that's the idea. Do

similar to what the city of Worcester has, but do it for Milbury. And you can see at the bottom of the page, the goal of that would be to have a permanent resource that is available to the public

anytime that they could look at and they would know more about each service member. um they would know where they're located. I mean, you can see I took I took pictures of the one over at the library

across the street and you know, uh Russell um square, you know, may maybe people don't know about that. Maybe people don't know what that means. Um so I thought it would help the local community

become more aware of the Milbury veterans and their service and their ultimate sacrifice. So that was the idea behind it. Um, but on on the next couple pages, the second page, this is what you can

find if if you go to the city of Worcester web website and you drill down. I think if you just Google search Worcester war memorials, this is what you'll see. This is a Google map that I think it's

somebody in the police department at Worcester did this years ago um on the side, but they made um a map, a Google map that when you touch those links, it sends you to um that individual service

member that has a monument at that corner. So like for instance, Kelly Square, people call it Kelly Square, that's Cornelius Kelly Square died in World War I. You know, that's more information that

you would find here. Um, and even if you didn't want to necessarily visit that, you would know what Rosnan Square means, what Kelly Square means, all these sort of things. So this I just took a

screenshot, but you could make this larger and then you get to see more of the 237 because that's how many are on here. um you'll get to see each one of them and what it what each icon represents. And

if you go to the last page when you when you um like I just I just went to Curtis Square. It's on Lincoln Street. Um so when you go hover over one of the icons or you go to that, it shows you what's

on there. So that's what comes up. So, the one I chose is at 618 Lincoln Street, right at the beginning of of Lincoln Street. Uh, Curtis Square and and World War II. Um, you know, in memory of and

then down below, probably most importantly, u there's a hyperlink that sends you to either information about Robert Curtis or it sends you to a Worester Telegram gazette article of when that monument

was dedicated. Um either way, it it it kind of opens it up to more information about that service member. >> So, we're lucky because when I researched with your wife um over at Asia Waters years ago,

um Milbury students did this. They looked they >> That's what I have. >> Yeah, that's what you read. >> Yeah, that's what I have in my >> fold up here on my computer. My computer. >> So, like it was

like in the late 90s, I think it was. Yeah. >> But those are the things that you read on Memorial Day like one of those similar to what you do. >> Yeah, that's exactly what I do. That's where I got it

from students. >> So, so I went there. I saw it. That's where she helped me find all those for each one of these Milbury service members. >> Hamilton had it. He gave me a subscribe that I gave to

somebody else. >> Yeah. It's pretty cool because it it actually it's an interview with the family in some cases. >> Yeah. And that's what I read on Memorial Day. >> Yeah. on a different one. >> Yep.

>> So, back to the first page. So, what what I would like to do with the with this committee's permission is um continue. I'm going to do this anyway. I'm going to visit all the sites, but I I'm

taking pictures, documenting that, and I'm using the background information. Um, and then I would like to set up a web page for the town of Milbury that people can look and we could have Milbury on as

a map with all the icons to find out more information about each service member uh for the town of Milbury. So that's my idea. Yeah. >> Just one came in late. I must uh are these going to be

distributed to people, mailed to people, or just go on a website? >> Just solely on the website. just tone. >> We We can talk about it so people know it's on the website. U but it'll just just be on

the website. It'll take like I was like she probably told you I was there for like the whole afternoon when I went to Asia Waters. It's tremendous information. >> Do you want me to send it to you? >>

Well, I I took pictures of it. I might They're all on an 8 and 1 half by 11 um interview of the family or sometimes it's the dedication. >> I took pictures. I'm not sure how that will show up on the

website. I might need to scan those documents instead of taking pictures of them. But my idea is to take like, you know, I have Russell Veo. So, you take the pictures with either a picture or a scan

of the reflection of the background information and put that as a link to officer to Russell Veale on the website. So that'd be the idea to link the background information onto the map and put it on

the town's website. >> Now, is Worers on their website? >> Yeah, it's on their official city of Worcester website. So if if you go to the city of Worcester website, you know, and then you go up above

where they have a search engine, you can put in war memorials. Um, I stumbled into it. I didn't know this existed. I was actually I was actually just walking around the city of Worcester and I didn't

even know it existed, just looking for these things. Um, and then I realized when I if you just Google like Worcester war monuments, you'll you'll you'll come to there. That's part of the search. So,

you you'll get there. >> Um, and then that's where you find that. But, um, I I didn't find any other town that had something like this. But, I I >> I feel that we Milbury, we have enough to make this

worthwhile. And I feel that we should make this public. That information we have at Asia Waters from the historical museum. >> Definitely. Mhm. >> How do you know there's such a website? I mean, how

would >> Well, we're going to we He stumbled into Wisters and now he wants to do the same thing for us for >> Milbury. How How would I know that there's such a website? >> Well, we we'll put it on the

town website and then we'll once it's all set up, we can we can publicize it. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Different ones. So, >> and when we first release it, we can put it on the front page, too, I

think. >> Sure. you know, like new news type of thing. Okay. >> And I would think you'd want to have it prominently on the front page >> during the like Memorial Day week. Sure. >> Veterans Day Week

like around this time. Things like that. You can make it more prominent. But >> I'm sorry. Something like that. We could use the the board up in the center of town. >> Oh, absolutely. The board in the

center of town. We can share it on all the all the all the town social media accounts and stuff. We can we can share it um and get that information out there. So, I think that that's uh I think

digitizing all of this stuff is >> a great idea. >> Yeah, it's a great idea. It's fantastic. >> Now, is there any other board he needs approval of to put it on? >> I might find out. I'll talk to

Amanda tomorrow or Mark. >> I will definitely >> It's a good thing we have the boss of the whole town here. [laughter] >> I will definitely put it on my agenda. Okay. >> You know, whether you want to

come and talk or I can talk on it. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. I think it's a fantastic idea and I mean I think getting it onto some kind of hyperlink to begin with is easy enough and then having that you know

added to the town website that that might just be one additional hurdle. >> Yeah, I don't think there'll be an issue. >> I wouldn't think so. >> No. >> All right. Well, thanks Rick for coming in and

uh sharing this stuff with us. I think it's >> super job >> fantastic. Make a motion to further. >> I think that's what we should >> motion that we move we're okay to further it and do >> I have a

second >> the right words. >> Second. Yep. All in favor? >> I unanimous. >> Thank you. Thank you. So, and what I will do is >> Mr. Havalotti. >> Big Bill. >> Big Bill. >> Little Bill. [laughter] >>

That's better. Look at me. My little Bob. >> Yeah, you'll find out electronically. The ones I saw with Mrs. Mo. That was great. >> I learned how to do that. >> All right. Probably show [laughter] off

that. I took pictures of them, but I think like it was a great idea. Just >> you were saved to the desktop kind of person. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Then all of a sudden the whole desktop's full. >> I

was deleting emails. I'm like, "No, [laughter] >> you got to figure going forward if things like this aren't done, it's going eventually it'll just be information that'll be lost to history, >>

right?" >> You know, it's it's a great idea. I think >> just for the future, I think we need to do the same thing for the graves, especially the weird cemeteries with all the revolutionary and civil

war guys. >> Sure. >> You know, those things are just falling apart. >> Mhm. >> And eventually, I think, you know, we need to find out where all these guys are buried. And I don't know if we can

replace, you know, stones or not. We have a few. >> We went down that road. >> Yeah, we went down that road before, but unfortunately like the families have to >> be notified, >> be notified, be okay

with it. It be a whole >> They probably died out and moved to California or what the heck, you know, >> even getting information on some of that stuff might find difficult. You might find difficult. I

>> mean, Civil War people are going to be what? >> There's no record to come across know that far. But it it the reflections are great. I think that's going to be helpful. But I I also know like when

I went around into the Wister ones and even in the Milbury ones, it's interesting how much you can see just with the plaque. >> Sure. >> Um and just to give you an example, you know, people that died

on their birthday or they died on Christmas or they died after the war was over and maybe they didn't know the war was over. And then I had one in Worcester that they died December 7th in 41. Um and

it it wasn't um >> right. And and I didn't realize there were there was conflict with Japan and in the Philippines theaters. >> Right. So I mean I I didn't know that till I discovered so it's it's

like I was reading a lot into just that plaque on the lower right. Um you know a lot were states side accidents things like that. Um, so I think that's worth sharing. I really do. It's uh >> I might

have to do this on my computer at home because it's not taking the attachment. So, >> okay. >> I'll send it to you. >> That's fine. Yep. >> And and what I'll do to the for the committee before

anything even with the town's approval and I put it on here before anything goes public, we'll have this committee review it first. >> Perfect. >> Before we release anything. Um, so there's probably

a way I got a tech guy helping me with this because you know Keith, I'm not [laughter] >> neither is the rest of this room. [laughter] >> Technology is still trying to figure out trying to figure out

what a link is. [laughter] >> Oh, thank you. >> All right. Oh, you're welcome. >> All right. We appreciate it. >> Yep. I I did this is the kind of thing that I've already t I brought it. I didn't know

if you want to see it, but that's the type of thing that I've already started to do. I put this together for myself. Um, so this is all the milky ones that I have so far. I I try to do the plaque. I

try to do the location so people can see the whole thing. Um, and then um, you know, I feel Mr. my hand like maybe when I'm done with this I could give this to the historical museum if if they would

want that you know >> absolutely >> you know so I I I haven't finished yet but that's the type of thing that I did for Worcester Worcester I needed three books [laughter] it's unreal work >> three

books >> how many wars >> you heard the man you retired two >> well there was there was Grenada there was we lost lost one guy in Grenada >> um um Korea. >> Yeah. >> World War I, World War II. Um they

didn't really do these individual monuments earlier than that. Civil War, anything like that, but um there was, you know, some Afghanistan and Worcester, stuff like that. So, so this this was and

these are chronological. I didn't know how to sort them. Um so I finally decided on chronologically. Um and you can kind of you can almost see how the war goes just by thumbming through here. you

know, when you see a lot Anzio Beach in Italy and things like that, you kind of get a sense of how things happen, too. Um, so, and here's this is just what I did on this one. Um, then I just put in

there just things that I noted when there were particular battles. Oh, that's the only I noticed how young people were, 18, 19 years old. >> Um, brothers, one was a father and son. um um died on the

4th of July. So, these are just things I I you know, I just made little notations on things that I noticed. Um >> there's a lot of those squares in Worcester where there's like four family members on

them. >> Yeah. And you go down um only because I know you go down like Hamilton Street, Shbury Street, it's it's like a cemetery because every block >> has one of these. >> The park at Shbury has

like four brothers that are on there. >> Yeah. Yeah. I should say the uh Vietnam Veterans Group I belong to. It's been about >> nine 10 years now. We actually our project is We actually went around

and cleaned them all. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. It took us like three months. Don't have three months, but that was a project that Yeah. >> Yep. And and I don't I'm not sure if you know, but the one at

our roundabout, one of them got knocked over. >> I don't know if you know that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The one on >> Elm Elm. >> We got to talk about that. >> And it knocked over. >> Okay. Only because I

noticed. >> I didn't know that. >> It got knocked over again. >> Yeah, it's not there. It did get knocked over. It got snapped right off. >> Really? We fixed it once, I think. Didn't we? >> No, the

state didn't care. >> Well, I mean, the state did. I think they fixed it once. >> When we when we get to that point, I would talk to the highway department about that. They were going to get it done.

because they have to order another piece of granite and they have to order another plaque because the plaque itself got >> destroyed. >> All right. Well, >> thank you, Rick. Appreciate it. >> All

right. All right. >> And I'll send those to you tonight when I get >> All right. So, I figure I'll keep working on this >> and then come back to you probably early spring. Um, you know, once I have

everything computer done and and and have all the pictures taken, too. I want to make sure I get all of them, too. So, I'll go around. >> Do you have a list of them all? >> I I do. Um I >> Here's what

I I had 24 just just by me roaming around town. And I think um >> there it's definitely in the 30s. It's 31 31. >> So then I added these when I went to visit your wife on the historic. So So I got

these. So I I got a few more. Um, >> I'll give you a NASA list if you want. >> Perfect. Perfect. >> So, that's the other one before we release it. I want to make sure we get everybody, too. >> Yeah.

So, yeah, I think it's like 31 or And, you know, and then eventually, you know, I'm taking pictures of the bigger war memorials that you have, not just for individuals. You know, we could eventually

put that on the website, too. Um, but I I was keying in on the individual service members first. >> Maybe that project could have cooled down. Yeah, >> because we only know one one major location. >>

We can always add to it at any time, too, >> right? >> You know. >> Yep. >> So, >> all right. Well, >> thanks, Rick. I appreciate it. Thanks for coming in. >> All right. >> Thank you for doing that.

>> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yep. >> All right. That's pretty cool. So, my first item on new business tonight was to reorganize the board. Um, obviously every year we have to reorg um give the

officers to the clerk, make sure everything's good to go. Does anybody have any interest in being the chair, the vice chair, secretary? Anybody? I'll be the secretary and see you and I get Well, just

it's easier because I got Amy, too. [laughter] >> Fair enough. >> Sorry, Amy, but >> All right. So, Mary Mary wants to be nominated for the secretary. I think that that's perfect. >> Well, if you hold

opposition now, you can be reappointed. >> Yeah, sure. Are you interested? >> Uh, yeah. What? Whatever you guys >> Okay with that or >> All right. [laughter] >> Does Steve want to be the chair? Yeah.

>> Live from a truck >> live from national >> somewhere in Ohio. [laughter] >> Yeah. I think it should be the next generation. You you you >> old time. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Somebody got to make a

motion and >> All right. So, do we have to do it individually or do you want to do it as a group? >> Well, what offices are there? is >> chair, vice chair, >> secretary, clerk, and >> it's

secretary/clerk, right? >> Clerk. >> No, I thought it was >> Oh, it's just clerk. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, was that a secretary and a clerk or just the clerk is >> is the secretary? >> Well, I make a

motion that the president, vice president, I guess, or what your title is stay the same. >> Sign with me. >> Just the vice president's good. J. >> Okay. It's you, RJ, Jay. >> Yeah. >> That way I'll

keep him in line still. Wait. [snorts and laughter] >> Somebody's got going to have to teach me now that my my main person's gone. Cry. >> Cry emoji. >> I'm not sure, but I think we need a second. >>

Yeah. Second. >> All right. All in favor? What do we have? All right. It's unanimous. >> I make another motion that Mary is a court slash whatever. >> Second. >> Third. >> And all in favor? >>

Perfect. All right. Now for our favorite part of the night where these two gentlemen to my right and left get to talk about the schools. >> Okay. Well, I took it upon myself. Jane took care of this

last year, but I did take care of them myself. Hope you don't mind. >> Absolutely not. Stuart, anything you want to do? You just go for >> because we don't want to scare them and show up here and have

no programs. So, I got it all set and I got a copy for each of you. So, why don't we pass them? >> All right. >> I can go this year. >> I got more. >> Yep. One more. >> All right. So, on the pamphlet

that Stuart just handed out, Elwood Street School on Monday, November 9th at 9 immediately followed by Shaw. Then the high schools the following day. Uh light breakfast and the panel go into the media

center entrance in the back. That's where he is meeting. >> Um, care one, >> that's something that the VFW >> It's a VFW. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> But, uh, >> they meet down there to give certificates to

the veterans that are in the nursing home. >> Okay. So, that's later on the 9th. >> Uh, 2:00. >> So, it would be >> it's really 2:30, but >> put down 2:00. Meet in the front. >> Okay. And then removal

of the flags from the veterans graves in St. Bridget's and Central on November 14th. Is that that Saturday? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> First Saturday after Veterans Day. >> Okay. >> Grandson and I uh are

going to do the uh since Jim Muso's passed away, West Milbury and uh we'll do Providence and Dwel. So, >> so we'll just have to do the two cemeteries that are listed. >> Will the Boy Scouts be

available? >> Chris, I spoke to Chris. He's going to he he's going to contact them tonight to see uh if they can be there. I'll have it put on the web page like we did before, too. But >> since it's

a Monday this year, Monday and Tuesday, I can make both those days. last year I believe was on a Friday and I work on it's the only day I'm committed during the week is Friday so that can be available

demanded to put the the removal on >> now we'll take the flag off too this a metal stand put a new one up in the spring >> and after Veterans Day we're going to take the wreath down right >> they're

looking that's a separate item so we got to >> that's something to talk about in budget too cuz >> Yeah, we have to redo those threes. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Sorry if I didn't mean to jump ahead. >> Nope.

>> But is everybody all set with this? Now, it's important for any veterans that you can contact to be here to be at these locations. The one thing I'm talking you know last year when we did um the

high school and I don't know if you fellas have any idea the students I mean you look out over the students [laughter] >> and the year but my contrary though the year before we get all the football

players they were fantastic >> they were great yeah I was going to say I didn't go last year but two years ago it was pretty good >> last year was kind was done. >> See, years ago, the Veterans

Council with the help of the VFW members and the Legion members, got the schools to do these programs. They never had anything at the schools, nothing. So, we got started with it and it's worked out

fine. Uh and the we when we went out to the high school and they had the program of the uh you know veterans speaking about what they did and things like this. At first it was so enthusiastically

involved that they had to have another another class >> to do it to finish it up. But I think it's lost its I don't know if the >> I would wait and you know to see how this year goes. Yeah. >> Okay.

>> Because like I said the year before it was unlone at the Legion to maybe get people through them. I don't know. I I don't know. >> Yeah. There's only six of us still. >> Yeah. No, we want to >>

Well, I'm talking about you could always go down to S. What's that? What the one down there? >> What do you mean? Yeah. thing. >> Oh, do they? I don't know. That's I don't know if you want to. >> I'm

a legis. >> One thing I found out we found out with the Vietnam Veterans Group that we belonged with our main thing is education. We take care of the monument up in Green Hill Pack. A lot of tours

come in from other towns. It's a class day and they bust them in from LOL or whatever. And in the bad weather, we actually go into the schools. And most of the schools, we actually go into a

classroom. And there you can uh talk about something besides the boilerplate stuff, you know what I mean? Because nothing's off limits with us. And uh you know it seemed to we found out that the the

older students don't necessarily care why we went in or when we went in but they care a lot about well you have this because we went in and you have that because we went in and you know something that

they can relate to you know cuz I mean let's face it they think this is the way it is you know all over the world except what they see on channel 7 at 6:00, >> right? >> So, we we found it to be more

effective that way. But that's like one year at Shaw School, they let us go into the classrooms and I thought that was one of the best. >> I think Shaw still does that. That that's still Yeah. Like

you'll get paired up with somebody and go into a classroom. The problem is I think is with the high school like they're trying to, >> you know, they're trying to keep it to like I know S had been

doing it for a while. Is he still the contact at the high school? Yeah. So, I mean, he's doing it with his history classes and stuff like that as opposed to, you know, us going into an English class

or a math class. Like, they're they're they're doing it specifically with a set of, you know, specific students, >> history, law, what whatever it may be. Um, you know, I think being able to go into

all the classes at the high school would be a a tall task. I don't think we'd have enough people to do it. No. you know, and how disruptive that would be comparatively to, you know, having the small

assembly that, you know, we typically do. >> Um, but yeah, I mean, I think year to year, it's just going to depend on whether there's a kid that comes ready to ask things and, you know, stuff stuff

like that as oppo, you know, like like um, you know, Mr. Murphy said about the football team that year. you know, Rey kind of probed them to come in and not just sit there and shut up, you know, and

they asked a ton of questions. I know that, you know, you were there and and you were there, Bob, answering a ton of stuff. So, >> it was one year, maybe about five years ago, Roland Chance was still

with us and Roland started talking about flying a spotter plane from a cruiser, you know, he used a gunner and flying around Eio, you know, calling artillery evil gunfire in Euima. I'm sure that got a

lot of >> that same cruiser going into Tokyo Bay, you know, for the surrender. >> Sure. >> You know, that was just what you know. >> You know, in retrospect talking about not telling when you went to

service, last time we were there, one of them asked me when I went to service and I said 196, you know, you little girls said to me, "What is 19?" >> So that's about >> You're right. It was a half a

century. >> Well, we can encourage them to ask questions. >> Oh, 100%. 100%. All right. So, we're all set as far as our Veterans Day obligations. Uh, making sure that we show up so that they have

somebody um >> getting that out to the other organizations. Uh, the VFW, I'm sure, knows about it. Um, >> well, they're going to know about >> they're going to know about Wednesday next Wednesday. So,

>> yeah, >> fair enough. Um, all right. So, we're all set with that. What are we doing with the wreaths? And we obviously the flag removal we have on on Stu's thing. What are we doing with the

wreaths? And what do we want the What is the consensus of the board as far as when those should be going up and when they should be coming down? Because I've heard different things. You just said

Veterans Day. Um >> Yeah, they should be on. >> Yeah. So like should it be the 4th of July? Should it be like what are we what are we looking for for optimal if we're going to buy new ones to take

care of. >> I think what we got to uh discuss first is uh we should take the re that are on there off. >> Okay. >> They're going to be taken off some time. >> Okay. >> And they're going to be

discarded. >> They're going to be tossed. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Because they're they don't look good. So, uh we got to decide. First of all, we got to now I have audited you know the s the silver

stand. >> Yeah. >> It's hard to get it takes a long time to order them. So I talked to the veterans agent down in Oxbridge and they ordered 50 for us. I think we got about 50 bought down at the VFW.

>> What's that? Markers. >> The st the flag stands. >> Right. >> The markers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, we're all set there and they just build the town. I don't know where they go, >> where it goes, but

it's paid. And when we order flags in the spring, okay, we order about probably about 15 well, 1500 products around that area. They send a bill to the town and that's paid. So, what we got to find out

is the REITs. Should they be in a budget of ours or can we order them and they'll send the bills to the town? But that's got to either be put in our budget or >> or in the veterans agents budget. >>

Yeah. Either way, somebody at the town needs to know that that money is coming out. >> So, we need to, you know, >> new town manager comes in, we need to approach him on this. Is that how it goes? >>

Now, who pays for it? >> That's what I'm saying. I don't know. >> It used to be when we had the veterans agent, he paid for it. >> Well, he he probably had >> he has a budget, right? Yeah. >> And do

we have a budget with >> with Oxbridge? >> Yeah, >> I'm sure that we do. So trying to figure out >> we got to find out because >> No, he has a budget. He has a >> a decent budget. >> Yeah, because it

doesn't like >> salaries and all that come out of that. >> So we share the veterans agent with Oxbridge. Correct. >> Oxbridge. >> So do we need someone to contact him and is that what we're getting

at? >> Well, I think it's just uh we need to figure out what we're doing. Are we are we going to town meeting and putting money in our in our account or you know as like a revolving account or are we

>> just going to order through him and >> we don't need to probably better not to ask right if we already have an access to it why why double dip right >> well if it it really comes down to whether

the veterans agent can handle something that big like the 50 markers I don't know how much that costs but I'm assuming >> I know we have a line item of 1300 I Okay, let's see. >> But now on a year

that we're going to redo all of the flags, that's probably going to be a little >> We do that every year. >> A little higher. >> How much was the last year on every year? >> We ref No, I'm sorry. Not

the flags. The wreaths. I meant the wreaths. >> Do you know what it costs for the re? >> I'm going to say I I had it written down at home, but I I'm going to figure 2500 >> for all of them. >> Yeah.

Even the big ones. >> We uh budgeted 3500 last year. And that's for other stuff too, right? >> Well, that's what we got to find out. We got what we got to put now. But >> so say we should probably >>

What we've been doing is taking them off and see if we can refurbish them and that's not working. >> So I mean sudden they just start new ones every year and it's not that big of a difference as far

as an expense. Trying to look at old emails quick and see. >> I am too. I'm trying to find >> what we I I have a ton regarding the re >> leaving these re out. >> Well, once once we replace them,

that's why I'm saying once we replace them and if we put them up, you know, a couple weeks before Memorial Day and we're taking them down on the, you know, the 8th of July or whatever, >> the

longevity of these things, you know, hopefully can last, >> you know, a handful. >> Somebody has to do it. Whether it's whether it's sustenance >> or do we want to leave them up till after Veterans

Day which we've been doing. >> But then that to that point they get faded. I'd almost rather >> you're going to have to you're going to have to re >> we want to just order every year all new ones. >>

Well I would say yes myself personally but I also think after 4th of July for Memorial Day they come down go back up for Veterans Day. So they're not looking like they look now. the sun the summer

heat's not banging down on them, you know, through July and August and September, >> northeasters and all that good stuff. >> Well, you know, there's there's a way and we look at it too and Ste and I

have talked about this before. Memorial Day is about the names on the monuments, >> right? >> Veterans Day is about us, >> right? >> So, we have to put them back up. We want to put them back up. >>

That's a question. I guess that's what I'm trying to get out. How do you guys feel? >> I I think that I think twofold. I think that leaving him out makes it so that we have to replace him every other

year, you know, and fiscally that probably doesn't that probably doesn't make a lot of sense. >> Taking him down. To Bob's point, I think he makes a good point about what the two days, you know, mean.

um having them out for you know Memorial Day and taking them down after the 4th of July. I think it would take you know not to say that we can't do it but like again I know we haven't been the best

and myself is probably the worst of everybody but making sure that they're getting out on time and they're getting taken back in when we want them taken back in to preserve them. you know that if we

only leave them out, which is for the intended, like you're saying, Memorial Day is meant for the individual who gave, you know, sacrificed his life for us or hers. Um, you know, we do that and that's

their day. Take them down to the 4th of July and those could last a handful of years. I think that's the play. I think that that's >> I'd be okay with that myself. I I would vote for that, >> you

know. So, I think that that's just moving forward. I think that that should just be our, you know, SOP. Like that's that's what we're doing. We're putting them out a couple weeks before Memorial Day.

We're taking them down, you know, the fourth the week after Fourth of July and [snorts and clears throat] trying to get, you know, five years out of them. >> I will say like taking them down. Steve

and I did it one year. And if you don't know every road in this town, the GPS, it's like, how long does this freaking take you guys to do it? >> But GPS doesn't get you to a lot of those. And if you

don't know some of these hidden little streets, he's calling us. He wants to watch the Patriots. >> Well, see, the best part is is once Rick gets his thing off and you can pull the thing up on your

dash now, you could just hit the damn thing and say, "Navigate and it'll just go right to the monument." >> Yeah, it was kind of I was waiting for him. >> He's said, "What are you doing?" He says, "I

don't know. We can't find it on the GPS." Well, that's cuz Bob that's cuz Bob took Bob took uh from the from the Rotaries through the center of town and he picked up 15 of them and was sending sending

you out to Davis Road, [laughter] you know. >> Exactly. >> Smart man. >> There's one particular one down there near Wheelock. >> Yeah. >> That is in that neighborhood. >> Doesn't come up on anything.

Yeah. >> And if you don't know where it is, you write a range. >> You don't know. You don't know. >> Right. Right. A ring right there. >> Want to push that one up. >> Well, there's two. There's two

right there. And right before but at will just interrupt you. >> There's one right at the first of Willock Cav one about 50 yards up and someone else has >> authority to take the one at the beginning

of three lock but I take the one the next up so we're going to kind of rearrange how that goes. No. >> Now, just for your information, when we did leave them up for a full year, >> okay, it took about

$1,000 to refurbish them so we could use them again. >> Okay. >> And I don't know if that lady's still around that does that. >> She does. >> She does. Okay. >> But that's what you got to figure in at

some point. >> Oh, you have the thing that I was looking for. >> Well, this is my notes from uh [laughter] >> I'm like searching in my email. George is like, I got it. Don't worry about it. Okay, I

got you. That was when they >> You're going to have to figure some refurbishing if you're going to reuse them even for a year. >> Well, I'm just thinking if they only stay up for a month and a half,

you know, let's call it 7 weeks between, you know, the 14th of May and, you know, the 8th or whatever of July. Let's say 7 weeks. is does that get more longevity out of them or or do or are we worried

about still they're going to need keep it up? >> Well, that's the thing. We don't know until we try. >> I think we have >> So, I think that we >> go for at least for the first year go refurbish. >> As

Mary stated, we do have a line item of $1,300. So, I mean, if if you know a few of them need to be redone, we've got the money ourselves that we can take care of that >> because some are going to be

in worse conditions, others of course, >> some are going to be exposed to the sun, some are going to be under a tree, >> of course, >> you know, and not everyone is going to take the level of

refurbishing that one down the road does, >> right? >> One thing as far as taking them down, I I don't see any reason why we can't take them down on the 14th, the same time the flags are coming down.

Oh, you talked about you're talking about fires out now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because when the flies come down the kitchen, it's like a race. >> Yeah. >> You know, God b, you know, God bless them.

They save us from running around. >> There's only two or three guys ripping them off the sticks and the rest of us are kind of standing around. You know, you get three guys that know their way around

town and you could probably get it done in a half an hour. >> Oh, 100%. >> About a half an hour. >> Yeah. [laughter] Oh, yeah. >> A few guy a few guys going in a couple different directions. It's

really not that. I was going to say like when when I put them up a couple years ago like a team of six me now I know what you're talking >> did on the rounds. We are going to need new >> what's the

word? Bungee cords for those as well. >> Like that's going to have to be >> some of them are those are those are ready to be >> snap. >> They're ready to be done. I think we should just this year we

should commit to a whole new setup for those in my opinion. >> That could be the project we're looking forward to. You know, we do one thing every year, right? So, if we don't have the budget for

that, I'm saying with the with the Reese, >> if we don't get the budget from the >> Yeah. >> veterans agent, that's going to be a lot on the >> I'd say that's about a 36 inch budget call. I think I

measured from my foot to my waist. That's >> okay. [laughter] >> So, uh, and you just pick them up at the regular hardware store. So, okay. >> Yeah. >> I was talking more towards the Reese if that if

they become that expensive, you know, because if what they if you can do, they're going to be close to four grand when they're brand new. >> No, about 2500. >> That's it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. cuz to know

about how much inflation has hit us, >> right? >> Okay. >> I still can't see it being 3,000. >> Is it worth the labor for we refurbished for a thousand, you know, two years ago? >> Yeah. >> Is it

worth the labor, you know, to uh you know, uh do that, you know, and uh you know, take them down or just leave them up all you know, until Veterans Day and then just get new ones. That's why Sutton

Sutton does that. >> I I think I think that we should I think that we should leave these ones up past Veterans Day because they're already up. There's no point in getting them before then. We'll leave

them up past Veterans Day and then when we take those ones down, we'll dispose of those ones, >> right? >> And we'll get a whole new whole new setup for next year. And then, like I said, moving

forward, we'll do sometime in the middle of May till a couple days past the Fourth of July, depending on where Fourth of July falls in the week. We'll pull them down that that next weekend and try and

now the VFW can still house these. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Now, I tend to be with what Bob brought up earlier about what day means for one thing and one thing only the other. If I tend to think

that's why I initially said maybe bring them up, put them down, bring them up, put them down again. If you leave them out during the summer, that might I mean I don't like the way they've been looking

in town for Steu and I had this conversation. They haven't looked good for a month and a half. >> You know, there's no weather >> being there. Sun faded and weather. >> That's a long time in this this

>> this part of the country with, you know, rain and it's half the year. >> Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, but now we're talking about lowering that down to seven weeks. Like, we might get more. >> Might

get two years out of them. We don't know until we do it. >> Well, I mean, we've gotten three years out of these ones, >> right? >> You know, maybe even more than that. Now granted, we refurbished

them, >> but >> but I think we all came to the conclusion at the end of our meetings last year that this was going to be we this was coming up. >> We knew this was a a thing that was going to have to

be done >> 100% >> for for Memorial Day. So >> now, one other thing we got to figure on the wreath, you know, the large wreath at the Mo Memorial, >> they do not make that size foam anymore. So we

got to figure out what we're going to do with that unless we can How big? How big is it? Do you know? >> I'd say I don't know. Cool. Bet you can find it on Amazon. >> Bet you might get right. >> You

better look to because they can't find it in stock. They've been reusing that one and they said that's about the last time we can reuse that. I don't know the size. You have to measure. So, we're >>

we're going to go back going forward till now and until the holidays, of course, but we're going to go back to meeting once a month, right? >> Yeah. >> I really don't want to be like relying on Stu to

do everything on Memorial Day and like you you took the initiative to go to schools. That's great. >> But I I do think we need at least a once a month commit. >> So, my question is what I have that

sheet to >> what sheet is that how often we're meeting. >> Yeah. So my question is is when do we need to meet? Like does it have to be every month? Are we going to take a summer hiatus? Like are we

going to like is it going to be just once a month even if it's just to come say hi and leave? Like what are we >> I think we should meet January, February, March, April, May. >> I agree. >> I agree.

>> And then have a >> the summer off. >> See? Yeah. Summer >> and then come back in September. >> Okay. cuz we have another >> that way September October September September October after Veterans Day

in November meeting two weeks before Veterans Day we have a certain amount of meetings we have >> now >> so if we do go ahead still >> losing my thought >> I'm sorry >> what are we what are we going

to do about the budget we got to make that decision now >> I think >> next month, one of the two. >> No, we can always put an article in. >> Yeah, >> cuz we're a town committee. >> You want to make

January our January? Yeah. For budget. >> When's the town meeting? >> May. >> Right. >> So, in other words, >> well, we're going to have to >> How are we going to pay for the >> Yeah, that's my next

question. >> Well, you you're not going to be able to you can't get any money right now because it's too late. You already you have $1,300 in your budget, your line item. That's all she gave us. >>

Wait a minute. Does the veterans agent have any of money left in he has a budget of $142,000? >> We can talk to the veterans agent and if he's if he can't come up with the whole sum, we can use our

line item toward it. If that falls through, then we'll figure out another way to replace him. I we will we will >> we will take care of getting new wreaths one way or the other. >> And you know

correct me if I have to donate. >> We give x amount of dollars every year to the veterans agent. >> Yeah. So he get he has line items >> district services 39,000 supplies 3,000 and veteran benefits

is 100,000. I don't know what veteran benefits. I think if we meet at the beginning of February for budget every every year, right? We meet at the beginning of February for a budget. We put a we put

uh because we're a town committee, we can put um for town meeting, right? We meet in March and April to make sure that we're all set for May. Do we want to meet in June and have like a postmemorial

day, you know, kind of like a afteraction type thing? >> Say yes. >> Then we take >> September. >> Then we take July and August off, right? >> Yeah. >> Maybe we meet we meet midepptember for to start

talking about this kind of stuff. September, October, we do November, then we take December, January off. So we take July, we take July, August, December, January, the summer, and the holidays. We

take those off. We meet every other month. >> Yeah. I'm a big fan of I know you just said you'd rather wait till September giving out I just think we want a good performance for the town. I I think if

we wait till September, it's going to fade in our mind. I think we almost have to meet in June >> just to >> Well, we had said that. >> I'm saying we'll meet in June as an after action. >> I I Yeah.

>> So, what what I'm proposing is we meet eight out of the 12 I'm I'm proposing we meet eight out of the 12 months. We take July and August and December and uh January off. >> I think that's a good

plan. >> We come in on February from Chris, you know, from our Christmas break, from our holiday break, and we we go over the budgeting and whatever we need to get that to town meeting. Um, we can

also talk to the new town manager about just giving us a line item like the last one did. >> I was trying to find a line item and I can't. >> I I >> Is everybody scheduling wise? Does that work for

everybody? That way we can, you know, the buildup to Memorial Day, the buildup to Veterans Day, like those are the big things and then any other projects we have in between. Sorry, George. [laughter]

>> The question is why what day and of the month do you want? Well, why don't we keep it the first Thursday of the month like we got it now and that would make it easier to remember. >> All right. So,

I'll skip >> because we'll skip we'll >> cuz we already meeting right now. So, we'll just wait and meet in February or >> skip January. Do we need? >> No. What I'm thinking is >> somehow we're gonna

have to all get the word of what's happening with the REITs. If he's banned, what we got for money? Do we have to come up with money? You know what I'm saying? >> So, do we need to contact him first

ASAP? That's we need to do, right? >> Yeah, >> I'll do that. >> That's what I would do. >> I'll do that tomorrow if you unless you want to do it. I know you're busy. If they got if they got the I mean

the veterans agent always had the re in his budget >> and they're paying for the stands and they're paying for $1,500. >> This might be a mute point, but we need to have a conversation with him. >>

Yeah. Anybody have a contact for him? >> Yeah, we'll get we'll get you on. >> All right. So >> talking about Carl Bradshaw. >> Yeah, I guess that >> he's very busy. His assistant is not >> Okay. She's

going to talk to him. >> Air Force enlisted. So she knows what she's talking about. >> Yeah. So >> I I deal with >> I saw him today. >> I mean, we're not in a We're not in a rush for this either. This

isn't until we don't need this stuff until May, >> right? But I don't know how how long did it take to get them made. Is that something they can put together in a month or? >> Oh, >> it doesn't take

that long. But I don't like to wait till the last minute. >> No, no, no, no, no. All I'm saying is we don't have to This isn't something that like tomorrow we need to pull the trigger on. >> No, no.

Just start the conversation. >> Well, I think I think he's a busy guy. I think Jay, if you're going to talk to him and see if it's in his budget to provide us with 31 of these wreaths, I think >> if

you give him a a $2,500 figure, you should be okay. >> That's not conservative. You think that's enough to get it done, right? >> Yeah, it's more it's more inflation. >> I got the figures at home

because I asked her this fall what it would be. >> Just put see if you can get 2500 out of MJ. >> Okay. All right. And then if he wants to start the damn thing right away and order him right away,

great. >> Right. >> And if he doesn't, then you know, obviously we need him for the sake of, you know, Steu's health, I think, you know, we we want him here. We want him here by February at the

latest. >> All right. >> But I just think like even if he is, like Phil said, if he's a busy guy, at least if we contact him now, >> after us, at least it's in his radar. I just like >> nominated >>

anybody that's busy. Sure. Like we don't even need him to to appropriate this for four more months. You know what I mean? Like so like it's not >> we need a yes or no. >> But yeah, but like once he

appropriates it, we can you know reach back out. >> Does everybody get their email? >> I do. Yeah. >> So why don't we just be a little myself included? Why don't we just be a little more

communicative via that when you talk to him tomorrow? Whatever answers you have. Like I don't think we all have to show up here and talk about just the REITs, you know what I mean? Like send an email

to everybody and say, "Hey, this is where we're at." And if we need to if we do need to discuss anything or vote on anything, you know, because of the conversation that you have, then we'll make a

meeting. >> I'm fine with that. The one question I do have is that that meeting you and I went to and I know Mary was there. Is that if we send an email doing that, is that violating the open meeting

law? >> As long as it goes to everybody. Do you know that, Mary? >> As long as when it's something vote on, we can send it through Amy. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Cuz I know that there was some stuff that

if you meet with three or more people, it's considered a meeting that should be open, >> right? But as long as we're not voting on anything, if it's justformational, like it should not be it should

not be a violation. But you live with the freaking um the thesaurus. [laughter] So, uh, >> you know, you just, you know, she can she can let us know what [laughter] what laws were violated. [laughter]

>> Bob's looking at the eye in this cop. One other thing about the monuments, Bob, you can fill us in. How are they doing down there about replacing that monument? the highway superintendent was

getting a hold of that lady where we got the big monument was name place >> and uh to get another piece of granite and have a plaque made >> cuz he showed me the plaque I mean the brass plaque was

mangled as bad as the granite was and the guy cut the coner he didn't only bend it he snapped it right off at the base >> one of those tractor the trailer guys >> well you know you you know you off.

But an hour or two hours later, they stopped them and there was a guy changing a flat tire down on how app on a trailer. However, the one had anything to do with the other, that was after the fact by

then. >> So, they didn't find the stone in the middle of the road until after they had seen the guy with a flat tire. >> I did have one other thing on old business that I was asked to bring up by the

While we're still on that subject now. It snapped off pretty clean. I took and I took it upon myself. Pour concrete and level it right there. Well, you got to move that monument. >> Yeah. I can't see.

>> That's been whacked twice since it's been put back. And well, the third time it just got snapped right off. There's a grass area if you're looking at Elm Court to the right there where they don't

have to because that corner they just cut that corner too sharp and it just drags. They drag this rail. >> Is there any room on >> Well, when you're coming down the ramp from 146, >> I would assume we

have to >> M court will be on the right. >> Sure. >> There's a grass area right there. >> But I I don't know who owns that grass area. That's my question. Yeah. >> So, like I think because it's going

to have to go on town property. >> My my thought process would be obviously we want to stay in the area. Clearly he's got ties to Elm Court. That's why it's there. >> Um you know, but even even going

as far as the senior center or the fire department, like if there's somewhere close adjacent. >> Well, the last time I looked, they say here's the end of the bridge. >> Sure. You're going down Elm

Court. I think there's enough grass where you could butt it like this instead of putting >> My only my only concern is do we own that piece of land to be able to do it? >> Well, it's across the street

from any house or anything. So, I Well, the only one that own DOT. >> Okay. >> That's DOT. >> Okay. >> Fair enough. >> But you'll keep up on that. >> I will. >> Now, they they got the funds to pay for

that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Because it's going in on the insurance or something. Yeah. Yeah. >> Perfect. >> The other thing I was asked to bring up, um, the flag depository boxes >> are still down to DPW. Do

you guys want me to try and contact them? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's what I was told. They made their way to >> out back. >> I don't know. >> I have to stop down here tomorrow morning and I'll just >>

And yeah, >> check it out >> and I I'll talk. >> I think that was on the agenda. Was it >> was it on the agenda? I know. It's the last item. >> Yep. >> So, >> status on the flag retirement. >> So,

you'll you'll tomorrow >> I would uh I would check it out. >> I think they made the way to Melbury. So, I think they're sitting as we speak down there >> because the last time I talked to him or

asked about it and it was probably about a month and a half ago and it they didn't know anything about it. >> So, I'll look into my end and I'll call you tomorrow before you'll call me I'll be out and

about tomorrow morning. So, I could probably get a better answer when I talk to her. And then once they come in, it's a matter we got to get them >> painted. Yeah. And figure out where we're going to

put them. I don't know if we ever came to a conclusion on that. >> Well, I was talking to the Mark at the transfer station. Mark thought it was an excellent idea to put one down there. >> I had I

actually brought that up and we talked about it. >> Put one of them down there. You know, >> you'll see a ton of eyes will see those things. >> Everyone goes there every Saturday, you know, for the

most part. And you know, as it is now, people give them to him and when he sees me come in, he gives them to me and I bring them to the BFW. So that's how we've been doing it. >> All right. So we got

that nailed down. Anything else? >> One other thing about flags. We got the flags at the center on telephone poles. >> Now it they were very sparse this year. If you're gonna do it, we should have one

on every pole. Okay? That's the only way it looks good. All those new poles in the town in the U descent are the black poles. We're going to if if we can't put them on there, that's where they that's

where they belong. And u we got to figure out how many we're going to need if we could put them up there. What are we considering the center >> the fire department to the to the actual center the

center down to windle the center down to what? Puffins. >> Not that far. >> Not that far the funeral home. Okay. >> And then south main to the VF. >> Okay. >> But that's >> Do you go down all the way

down past the drought house >> going down that way? >> Oh yes. So you come from >> that goes all the way down to like >> to where to Mclofflin. >> We got about 32 polls, >> but I don't know how many

we got in town now. I'd have to recount them. >> Are we going to do that or we just going to leave them all? >> Well, in the past we got a whole year to worry about that. >> I know, but we should be

thinking about it because and I know we had looked into how you're going to get some money for them, too. And we had looked into it a couple years ago, maybe on this committee, and about putting them

on black lamps. >> That's the thing. I mean, >> uh, that you send those. >> See, the town's got those banners up. >> So, right where those banners are is where the flag should be. So, >> that's the

problem. >> We got to put it up higher. You can't put it lower. >> Yeah. No, we can't. >> What do the banners say right now? >> God, I don't pay attention to any of this stuff while I'm driving

around. Go ahead. >> It lives seasonally. It lists the business that sponsors >> donations and sponsors, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, maybe for something in the future, we can maybe it won't help for

this year, but maybe we can get some kind of we can have something made up. We can have a company make us specific. Now, is this for Veterans Day for Memorial Day? Like, what are we >> Oh, they put

them up in season. >> No, the American flags, right? >> What I'm saying? >> Oh, the flags. What would is that what you're talking about? >> What I'm saying is maybe we can talk to the town about

substituting in during a period of time a patriotic type flag to take that flag space. >> You understand what I'm saying? We can have something made. Now granted, we're going to need the money for it,

>> but that way it'll just be in the rotation. We'll put a patriotic type one into the rotation. >> Now, I know that those flags, are they for the 250th this year? Because normally they're the chain

of lights, right? The chain of lights will be coming up. >> No, they're the chain of lights and they're for different businesses, >> right? But don't I thought they had the chain of lights with the

sponsors. >> They're seasonal, >> right? Seasonal. Yeah. >> You know, they they're up most of the year. The seasonal banners, >> right? >> They must have a committee in charge of those flags, too. >>

Well, some committee gets what is it? Uh $23 $300 to sponsor a banner. Could be like Rotary Club or something like that. >> Oh, the town. >> Yeah, >> local businesses. >> They got local businesses. If

you want it, you I don't know. I think it was 150 bucks. >> Well, it's more than that. >> Yeah, it's 300. >> And then uh you know, they make a flag, you know, >> he would know. >> Just on a just on a

[laughter] just on another another note. >> I got to go. I got to go back to work. I just realized how late it is. >> Wait. Ice cream. >> I can't believe you didn't bring any. You got time to stop all

>> just on a >> Yeah, we do have time. >> Just on a just on a side note, when they first come out with them banners, I was working still with the highway then crew went out on the highway department

to put him up. My father, God rest, was at 95 Elm. I went to see him and I walk in there and he's up one side of me and down here and said, "What the heck wrong with you?" He said, "Come here." So I

look out the window and there it is. ball ain't true no long. [laughter] >> It's a good spot. >> The [laughter] following day they swapped them out. >> But that's something we got to consider because

they should be put up for the morning. >> Let Let Yeah, I'll talk to Mary off camera. We'll figure something out as far as the flags go. >> You would like to do I forget what town. Maybe it was I

don't know it was somewhere up north >> up that way >> and they have maybe it's Pittsburgh. >> You're talking about Lemonster with the the uh like the people I've been for years myself. >> You could

have families pay for them. >> Yeah. Lemonster has it >> Douglas has memory of >> Yeah. Yeah. like about the >> service whoever was in this. >> Sure. >> Jane had actually looked into that because we

we had talked about it at home. >> I think that might be the play. >> I like that. >> But what now? How does the town feel about replacing and doing it a banner type one that's very similar to the

seasonal ones? >> Well, that's what it like. Yeah, that would be way better. That way we don't have to figure out getting the American flag over the other banner. It's also over in >> they have them

all over the place down in uh Douglas. >> I think it's Dudley used to have the flea market down there. [laughter] >> That whole road that goes >> past the district court. It must be Dudley then,

right? >> That whole road has has what you're talking about. >> Okay. >> I think they look good, but that's a conversation for another time. He's got to go back and make >> whatever we do on every

poll. You can't have the black poles and not have the other. >> Are the flags the season are the seasonal flags on all the polls that you want American flags on for the veterans? >> Or you think at

least close? It's close. >> See, I can't. >> What do you mean? Those seasonal flags that you were talking about, are those on all of the polls that you want these flags on? >> Very few. >> Very few of

them. Okay. >> Okay. Fair enough. >> They should be at every poll. >> All right. Let's do some behind the scenes work on figuring out what all that would take, how many, all that stuff. And then we'll

we'll check back in. We'll we'll have that as old business on the next meeting. >> I know it's a 3x5. >> Okay. >> So, when do you want to have the next meeting? >> So, Why don't we >> if this can to

be considered a November meeting, >> why don't we plan on even though I just said let's not do a December, why don't we do a December so we can get back with Jay about the veterans agent. We can maybe

do some digging in the next month or so about the flag situation and we'll have a couple things that we can address and then we'll go into the winter break and we'll come back in February with the

budget. >> All right. >> I would like to make one more notion about the scheduling. Maybe just do an after make make the November meeting if that's going to be our last one. Make it after Veterans Day

instead of >> We're going to do December the first the first first Thursday in December. >> We're going forward. Okay. >> No, no, just just right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got what you're saying. I

understand what you're saying. But yes, like going forward. Yes. For this year, we're going to skip November and go right to December. >> Okay. I thought I thought we were talking just the timing. >>

That way we can after action that and we can get >> You can always change your meeting day, right? Yeah. >> For right now, we're just going to go first Thursday in December. All right. >> All right.

Can I get uh my favorite my favorite motion? I'm second. >> All right.