2026-10-15 - Orleans Parish Board of Review
Summary
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- Thursday, October 15, 2026, Orleans Parish Board of Review (the City Council sitting on property assessment appeals; see 2026-10-15 - Orleans Parish Board of Review).
- Captions run from 1:22 to adjournment at about 30:38; the first 1:22 has no captioned speech and is not counted. There was no recess.
Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate):
| Topic | Minutes | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Board of Review 2026 assessment appeal recommendations | 12 | 41% |
| Senior and disabled homeowner age-freeze assessment overcharges | 11 | 38% |
| Assessor's challenge to 41 appeal recommendations | 6 | 21% |
Board of Review 2026 assessment appeal recommendations
1:22-7:53, 14:39-16:31, 22:12-25:03, 29:33-30:38
- The hearing-officer firm Hammerman & Gainer (CEO Lou Rascoever and colleagues) reported on 531 appeals, down from 716 last year: agreement with the Assessor's Office on 238, source valuations of about 87.5 million dollars versus 70.5 million recommended (11.8% from last year's certified values).
- Councilmember Green asked how a property can be reduced twice in one reappraisal period; HGI cited changed condition, damage, a campus slated for demolition, or new information.
- Councilmember Hughes questioned reductions for vacancies at District E apartment complexes; HGI explained the income approach and said owner figures are taken at face value, which Hughes said gave him little comfort.
- Resolution R-26-1 (exhibit amended for the vote below) and a second resolution certifying to the Louisiana Tax Commission each passed seven to none; the board then adjourned.
Senior and disabled homeowner age-freeze assessment overcharges
7:55-14:37, 17:52-22:10
- Pounds of Housing NOLA asked for corrections for over 2,700 seniors and homeowners with disabilities, a lower-of rule, an extended appeals process and a legislative fix.
- Council counsel and members said state law (R.S. 47:1992) limits the council to hearing appeals, bars retroactive refunds and filing for owners, and that the hearing-request deadline passed August 20, 2026.
- Clevenger said she was turned away quickly at her hearing and asked for a better process; members urged her to press state legislators.
Assessor's challenge to 41 appeal recommendations
16:31-17:50, 25:07-29:33
- Councilmember Brogdon asked about the conflict raised in Assessor Williams' October 8 letter; HGI said the former assessor and Tax Commission staffer did not hear any related property.
- Councilmember Karen (per captions) moved to change the report to no change for the 41 properties; it passed seven to none. A member asked for better assessor-HGI communication and noted the 2027 appeal window (July 15 to August 17, also online).
- HGI said not all 41 properties involved that reviewer.
Issues discussed: Board of Review 2026 assessment appeal recommendations, Senior and disabled homeowner age-freeze assessment overcharges, Assessor's challenge to 41 appeal recommendations
Agenda
Board of Review meeting (agenda not retrieved).
Sources
- Official minutes (Granicus): https://cityofno.granicus.com/MinutesViewer.php?view_id=42&clip_id=5618&doc_id=e6a79b57-c8ef-11f1-89ef-005056a84798
- Video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QUnIeU96cq8
Video
Transcript
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Transcript
01:22All right, thank you very much. We are
01:24going to get started on the board of
01:28review for property tax appeals. I
01:30believe we have HGI here, correct? All
01:33right, so you guys want to go over your
01:35presentation
01:37and I will recognize Miss
01:39McCarron at the appropriate time.
01:50All right.
01:50>> Well, good morning. My name is Lou
01:52Rascoever and I'm the CEO of Hammerman &
01:54Gainer, HGI. We're a 98-year-old,
01:57locally owned, locally operated,
01:58minority-owned company.
02:00Recognizing that your time is very, very
02:02valuable, I'm going to be as very brief
02:04as possible.
02:05Quickly want to introduce this is Dylan
02:06Trueax, one of our vice presidents. This
02:09is Andrew Beekler,
02:10an attorney with experience in real
02:12estate. And Mr. Arthur Laughlin, a
02:14public official with experience in real
02:15estate.
02:17As you probably know, we've been
02:19performing this third-party property tax
02:22assessment appeals services for the past
02:2414 years. And I'm here today just to
02:26briefly
02:28um
02:29um
02:30I'll give you our findings.
02:34Our firm is responsible for one of only
02:36only one of the many steps in this
02:38multi-stage process, all of which is
02:40designed to protect both the property
02:42owners and the city.
02:44The process starts with the office of
02:45the assessor establishing the original
02:47assessments and providing the appeals
02:49records. The property owners then have a
02:5130-day window called the open rolls
02:54process
02:55to which they can come. That's usually
02:57held in a public venue at Lakeview
02:59Christian Center on Fleur de Lis Drive.
03:01Once the open rolls is completed, that's
03:03when Hammerman and Gainer steps in to
03:06have the open appeals process. We also
03:09have that a public venue. It's usually
03:10at Delgado Community College.
03:13These appraisals are reviewed along with
03:16the office of the assessor's
03:17information. We
03:19We review the appraisals, the
03:21comparables, the photographs, and any
03:22other documentation provided by the
03:24property owner. And then after all that,
03:27we simply make a recommendation
03:29to the Board of Review of the
03:31the City Council acting as the Board of
03:33Review. Again, we don't make a final
03:35determination.
03:37We don't make a final decision.
03:39We don't set the tax
03:41rates. We simply make a recommendation.
03:48This particular year, after the initial
03:50assessments were determined and the
03:5230-day open rolls process was completed,
03:55we looked at 531 files. This compares
04:01very much to the prior years of 716
04:042026,
04:05618 2023, and of course that aberration
04:09on that chart
04:10is the annual I mean the every 4-year
04:13quadrennial period when there was 6,227.
04:18Of the 531 appeals managed by Hammerman
04:21& Gainer,
04:22our hearing officers
04:25agreed with the Assessor's Office on 238
04:28of those cases. That's the second column
04:30there, or about 44.5%
04:34of the total.
04:36We also recommended no change
04:37[clears throat] in the Assessor's Office
04:39initial assessment of 15 per personal uh
04:44personal claims, property claims. Next.
04:48The valuation of the the
04:51HDO HGI source files was 87.5 million.
04:55Our recommended valuation was 70.5
04:58million, and the differential is about
05:0017 million on valuation to valuation.
05:05However,
05:06if you look at the situation from where
05:09the certified assessments were last
05:11year,
05:12the percentage difference comes down to
05:1411.8%, which is very consistent with
05:18what we've seen over the 14 years that
05:19we've been of service to the city uh
05:22performing this role.
05:26Of the Of the ones that I'm we're all
05:28aware there was a a group of uh
05:30properties that the Assessor had some
05:33issue with, um and we welcome an
05:35opportunity to meet with the Assessor.
05:37Uh the first we heard about the problem,
05:39even though there was
05:4012 members of the Assessor's Office
05:42there at Delgado with us the entire 2
05:44weeks, and we were interacting with
05:45them,
05:46but we understand there was 41
05:48properties
05:49uh that were questioned
05:51um
05:53and the different breakdowns of those
05:54properties. We, of course, would welcome
05:56the opportunity to sit down with the
05:58assessor, and indeed we've reached out
06:00to Assessor Williams, and he has agreed
06:02to meet with us.
06:05Going through the whole quality control
06:08process, our hearing officers hear the
06:10appellant as well as the assessor's
06:12representative, who's generally present
06:15at most of these hearings. Again, the
06:17assessor's uh staff is in the next room,
06:19and they're invited over to listen in.
06:22They're open to participate in each and
06:24every one of the hearings.
06:25Um we then document our findings. We
06:28recommend the assessed values for the
06:29program review.
06:31The program staff checks off the
06:32calculation, identifies any missing
06:34evidence,
06:36and then the board uh considers these
06:38recommendations. Last but not least,
06:41even if there's an issue beyond that,
06:43remember there's yet another appeals
06:45process to the Louisiana Tax Commission.
06:48Um
06:50our recommendation today is that, you
06:53know, we consider
06:55approval of the whole group of 531,
06:59minus perhaps the 41 that there was some
07:01questions on, and we'd be happy to sit
07:03down and meet with the assessor. Again,
07:04we just saw this letter the same time
07:06you did.
07:07Um
07:08It was turned over to us by the
07:09Times-Picayune, but we'd be happy to sit
07:12down and meet with the assessor and
07:13discuss these particular properties. One
07:15of which, for instance, one that
07:16represented about 25% of the
07:18differential
07:20was simply one that was a procedural
07:22error.
07:23This particular property owner was not
07:24sent notice, was not given uh
07:27notification that their assessment had
07:29been changed within 30 days of the open
07:31rolls period. So, the hearing officer on
07:34that particular one
07:36really didn't have a judgment call to
07:37make. It wasn't uh so much of an
07:39analysis as the the protocols weren't um
07:42met, and so we had to revert back to the
07:45prior assessment.
07:47That's basically our overview of our
07:49presentation, uh but Mr. Beekler, Mr.
07:51Laughlin, Mr. Trueax, and myself are
07:53here to answer any questions.
07:55>> Well, we have uh one comment card from
07:58Tiffany Pounds.
08:03>> [cough and clears throat]
08:11>> Okay.
08:13Good morning, Council.
08:14Um my name is Tiffany Pounds, and I'm
08:18representing Housing NOLA. Uh so,
08:20Housing NOLA calls for immediate action
08:23to address inequitable property tax
08:24assessments affecting seniors and home
08:27homeowners with disabilities across New
08:29Orleans.
08:30These residents deserve fair assessments
08:32and the protections guaranteed to them
08:34under Louisiana law. We urge the City
08:37Council to take four critical actions.
08:40First, to correct the assessments of
08:42over 2,700 seniors and homeowners with
08:45disabilities who were overcharged,
08:47ensuring they receive appropriate relief
08:49for the 2027 tax year.
08:51Second, direct the Assessor's Office to
08:54apply the lower of the frozen assessment
08:56or current assessed value, consistent
08:59with practices across Louisiana. The
09:01special assessment freeze should serve
09:03as a ceiling, not a floor.
09:06Third, establish a special extended
09:09appeals process so affected homeowners
09:11are not penalized for missing deadlines
09:14they were never adequately informed
09:16about.
09:17And finally, to pursue a permanent
09:19legislative solution that ensures these
09:21protections are applied fairly and
09:24consistently moving forward.
09:26For seniors and residents with
09:27disabilities living on fixed incomes,
09:30every dollar matters. These protections
09:33were established to help people remain
09:35in their homes, not to create additional
09:37financial burdens.
09:39Housing NOLA urges immediate action to
09:42correct these inequities and ensure that
09:45no homeowner pays more than the law
09:47requires. Thank you so much.
09:49>> Ms. Pounds, can you stay there for a
09:50second? Ms. Beckner, can you please
09:51explain to Ms. Pounds why many of the
09:54things they're saying are contrary to
09:55law and the charter?
09:57>> Uh certainly. So, this process uh is
09:59established by state law. That's LARS 47
10:041992.
10:06It establishes the process for appeals
10:08of assessments to the Board of Review
10:09and the City Council has no authority to
10:11amend state law processes.
10:14Um the law provides that the Board of
10:15Review shall conduct public hearings for
10:17all persons or their representatives
10:19desiring to be heard on the assessments.
10:22Requests for these hearings must be made
10:24to the Board of Review no later than
10:25three business days after the last date
10:27upon which the lists are exposed by the
10:29assessor. So, in this case, that
10:31deadline expired on August 20th, 2026.
10:35Um the Council has no authority to
10:37submit a request for hearing at this
10:38point because number one, the deadline
10:40is passed, but number two, they are
10:41neither the taxpayer nor their bona fide
10:43representative.
10:45Um
10:46in this case, the law specifically
10:47provides that nothing contained in the
10:49law shall be construed to authorize a
10:51tax recipient body to challenge the
10:53assessment of all property within its
10:55taxing jurisdiction in a single
10:56complaint.
10:58>> Thank you. To be more specific, and this
11:00is I want to express how frustrating
11:02this process has because the reality is
11:05had Housing NOLA used its platform to
11:07actually tell those individuals when the
11:10rolls open and appeal them, we would
11:12have authority to help them. What you're
11:14requesting us to do effectively as an
11:17appeals court is to file a lawsuit for
11:19homeowners. We can't do that. It is
11:21literally prohibited by the charter and
11:23by law.
11:24So,
11:25what would have been helpful because
11:28both Housing NOLA and other groups have
11:29been complaining and telling people to
11:31call the council since August is had you
11:34simply educated homeowners under the law
11:37to go file a an appeal regarding an
11:40incorrect assessment which would have
11:42included HGI if their age at for age
11:45freeze had not been in place, correct?
11:47>> Mhm.
11:47>> So had those individuals filed that
11:49appeal, we could grant relief.
11:52And so what's frustrating is that rather
11:55than do that, you're asking the council
11:57to do something that had you done a
11:59cursory examination of the law and the
12:01charter, you know we can't do. We
12:04literally cannot do the things you're
12:06asking us to do. It is prohibited by law
12:08and by the charter.
12:10So what I would ask you to do, which
12:12would be helpful to those homeowners, is
12:14to make sure that when the rolls open,
12:16that they file those appeals because at
12:18that time, we can grant relief.
12:21Regularly, the council grants almost all
12:24the appeals that come before us for
12:26people challenging their assessments.
12:28That is the process.
12:30So simply put, not to beat a horse which
12:33is already dead,
12:35if you want to help, research the law
12:37and use the law.
12:39Don't just ask for demands that
12:41functionally, legally, we cannot grant.
12:46>> Okay.
12:47So question. So for since this process
12:50is closed, for next year, since we do
12:52know that there are over 2700
12:55uh taxpayers that have been overcharged,
12:57for next year when the process comes
12:59around, if they do appeal, will they be
13:00refunded the money that they were
13:01overcharged?
13:03>> grant money retroactively. We cannot
13:05grant money for the past year, but we
13:07can correct it going forward. That's the
13:08power we have. We can't retroactively
13:10give people money that may or may not be
13:13done if it has the timeline for an
13:15appeal has passed.
13:16>> So even though the assessor actually
13:18made mention in Verity back in May that
13:20he would give the money back to the
13:22residents, we still wouldn't be able to.
13:24>> that's a question for the assessor
13:25because our role is limited as HGI said
13:28and as you heard from the law,
13:30when an appeal is made to us, we can
13:32act. If no appeal is made, that is the
13:34limitation of our authority. Uh I'm not
13:37aware of the assessor having any ability
13:38to do so, but if back in May he made
13:42that argument, I would have hoped that
13:44organizations like yours would have
13:46notified homeowners to go file appeals.
13:49Because had they filed an appeal based
13:51on age or anything else, HGI, which is
13:54our our part party party that does the
13:57appeals, would have heard that
13:59complaint, would have made a
14:00recommendation based on it. And based
14:01upon what you're saying, I'm not saying
14:03you're incorrect. It could It's very It
14:05could be It could be and might be very
14:08likely that people are not being
14:10correctly given the information to
14:12freeze their assessments. At that point,
14:14HGI as our representative, the hearing
14:16officer, can go, "You're right." or
14:18"You're wrong."
14:19And even at that point, they would have
14:21the ability to come to us over HGI's
14:24recommendation and say, "We still
14:26disagree with HGI. We need relief." Then
14:28we as a council can act. That's the only
14:30role we have in this process.
14:33>> Okay. So, yes, I will bring that
14:34information back
14:36to our supporters and our partners.
14:37>> Okay. Thank you.
14:39Uh Council member, do you have some
14:41questions, anyone?
14:42>> Just one question.
14:42>> Okay. Go ahead.
14:44>> Good morning, guys. Uh just a general
14:46question. How could a property um have a
14:50reduction more than once during a 4-year
14:53uh reappraisal period?
14:56Because in the the assessor's letter, he
14:58flagged that a couple of the properties
15:00already had previous reductions during
15:02this 4-year period. And so, I was
15:04wondering how a property could receive
15:06more than one reduction during this
15:084-year period.
15:09>> Uh
15:10some of them
15:11may have a a change in character. They
15:13could have renovation, the fire.
15:15>> in his letter, he specifically said they
15:17didn't have any changes to the property.
15:20>> Um I mean, I'm not sure which one you he
15:22was referring to [clears throat]
15:23offhand, but there we could have gotten
15:26it wrong before.
15:28Um or there could be things that they
15:30they didn't bring to our attention. You
15:32know, there were several properties that
15:33they
15:34had added damage that still hadn't been
15:35fixed and while we're, you know,
15:37>> when you reduced it the first time you
15:39didn't encapture you didn't cover
15:41everything and so
15:42>> Exactly.
15:44>> Um one particular uh property, well,
15:46actually two, um are related to the old
15:49Mercy Hospital, the Lindy Boggs Center.
15:52That's actually slated for demolition.
15:54We already we had a ceremonial
15:56demolition of it. So, the the nature of
15:59that property
16:00basically it won't be there anymore next
16:03year. So, that's how it received that it
16:05might have received the change mid uh
16:07quadrennial.
16:08>> Understood. Okay. But but
16:11basically something has to change to the
16:13structure to the property for that
16:16reduction to occur.
16:17>> Or some new information is brought to
16:19us.
16:19>> Something that wasn't you didn't have
16:21beforehand.
16:22>> Which is which is why we have it every
16:24every year, not just every 4 years,
16:25because things change. Buildings get
16:27demolished or gutted, etc.
16:29>> Okay. All right. Thank you.
16:31Thank you. Councilman Brogdon.
16:33>> Good morning. Good morning, gentlemen.
16:35The uh the assessor's letter
16:37made a mention of a possible conflict.
16:41Can you flush that out? Um I'm not
16:43saying there is or is not a conflict,
16:44but just explain to us and the audience
16:47um what that potential conflict may be
16:49and how that person relates to this.
16:51>> Sure. So, the the the individual uh that
16:53was referenced is a professional that
16:55actually worked for the assessor's
16:58office in the past, uh worked for more
17:00than a decade at the Louisiana Tax
17:02Commission. So, somebody who's highly
17:03highly qualified. That particular
17:05individual did not sit in on or did not
17:09uh hear any of the properties that she
17:11might that person may have been in in
17:13the least bit affiliated with. So, I
17:15think simply the information um the
17:18Assessor's Office got on that one was
17:20erroneous. Uh moreover, again, the
17:22Assessor's Office has
17:249 8 10 11 12 people there at with us at
17:28Delgado who interacted with this
17:30individual, who knows this individual
17:32cuz again, she's worked in this area for
17:34years both at the Assessor's Office and
17:36at the Tax Commission. So, uh
17:38we as a protocol made sure that there
17:40was absolutely she this person was not
17:44involved at all in any of the
17:45assessments that she would have any
17:47affiliation with whatsoever.
17:50>> Thank you.
17:50>> Thank you.
17:52>> Ms. Clavenger.
18:00>> Good morning. Morgan Clavenger.
18:02Um I'm very concerned because uh
18:05you know, as deep of a dive as I have
18:08done personally over the years into the
18:10mysteries of the Assessor's Office,
18:12um in my recent foray into the Board of
18:15Review process, um the gentleman came in
18:19and in less under 2 minutes told me,
18:22"No, we I don't know who we was, but we
18:25cannot do anything for you. We're not
18:27changing anything." And the fact of the
18:29matter is is that
18:31all of our citizens who have lived
18:34through multiple storms and multiple
18:36snow storms, hurricanes, tropical
18:38storms, water main breaks, we have
18:40damage to our homes, unmitigated losses.
18:43And a roof
18:45a compromised roof continues to
18:46deteriorate if it's not replaced. So,
18:49yes, change has happened. It gets worse.
18:52And the fact of the matter is, our
18:54seniors are up against it. We are very
18:58very concerned about the overpayment uh
19:01that 2,500 seniors have overpaid on
19:03their age freeze. But at the end of the
19:05day, what this does is it hollows out
19:08the city. It forces people to sell at a
19:11loss and forces them to go into
19:14apartments or perhaps become homeless.
19:17This is a crisis and at this point the
19:20mysteries of the Board of Review are
19:22[snorts] not serving the citizens of New
19:25Orleans and I beg you all, beg you to
19:28create a better process. We need tax
19:31property tax reform all the way around
19:33and we cannot just
19:35go in these offices and sit and wait and
19:38be dismissed and not even heard because
19:41people are suffering. So, I'm begging
19:44y'all, please fix this process. Thank
19:46you.
19:47>> Ms. Clavenger, I know you might have
19:48missed the earlier part, but
19:51the the process for doing Board of
19:53Review is established by state law. So,
19:55I would really encourage you to talk to
19:56our legislators because I'm not There's
19:59certainly parts of what you're saying
20:01that I think are worthwhile, but I think
20:03you have to get that Well, I don't
20:04think. Sorry, Ashley, it's wrong. I know
20:06that we can't fix it here. So, the Board
20:08of Review process is set up under state
20:10law. If you want to change that process,
20:12that has to be done in state statute.
20:14>> need your help. I mean, what we were
20:15told is that the Board of Review
20:17represents the City Council.
20:19>> I know you were late, but you and you
20:22didn't you did miss the presentation.
20:24The Board of Review is the Council. All
20:26we can do is hear appeals that have
20:28reached the end of that process. We
20:30can't do anything
20:31up until the point that we get the
20:33appeals to us. We cannot file appeals on
20:36behalf of people. It's literally
20:38prohibited in the law.
20:38>> Oh, I understand that. Yeah.
20:40>> And we can't
20:41interfere in the process other than when
20:43it comes to us for final review. We're
20:45basically the appellate court. So,
20:48there is a lot of protections in place
20:51for the appellate court not to interfere
20:54with the appeals that are being filed
20:56and the appeals that are being
20:57processed. Some of the things you're
20:59suggesting that were suggested by
21:01Housing NOLA like extending the process
21:03or giving broader consideration of
21:05appeals, that has to be done in state
21:07law. So, I certainly appreciate that we
21:10are happy to advocate with you,
21:12but I would also appreciate if you would
21:14advocate as much to those legislators as
21:17you do to us.
21:17>> We will. And And you know, I mean, this
21:19is a crisis, as I said, but um you know,
21:23one of the concerns is also
21:25as the appellate court, it's in your
21:27court to approve the Board of Reviews
21:31a final
21:33>> Which
21:33>> recommendations. Is that correct?
21:35>> That is correct, which we're about to
21:36do.
21:37>> Okay. And so, within that, when you're
21:40looking at, obviously, tens of thousands
21:42of properties
21:43>> That's not how that works. You have to
21:45go We have 500 properties that went
21:48through the appeals process. So, if you
21:50don't file an appeal, there's no appeal.
21:52>> Right. And I did. And several of our
21:54neighbors did. I helped a lot of people
21:56file appeals.
21:56>> Then I think the separate question needs
21:58to be to talk to your legislator about
22:01your compliance with that appeals
22:02process that we don't have control over,
22:05because until your appeal goes through
22:06that process and comes to us, we can't
22:08do anything.
22:10>> Okay.
22:10>> All right.
22:11>> you.
22:12>> Mr. Hughes.
22:14>> Uh thank you. Um good morning. I do have
22:16a question, clarifying question for you
22:18all. I was a little perplexed that um
22:21there were um some apartment complexes
22:23in District E
22:25um where you all um recommended granting
22:27the appeal due to vacancies. So, so tell
22:31me how you arrive at that. Why Why would
22:33that
22:34What does vacancies have to do with
22:36the value of a property?
22:38>> Yes, sir. So,
22:40>> [clears throat]
22:40>> traditionally, there's three kind of
22:44modalities to value uh a a property. So,
22:48for example, I'll start with like
22:49residential property. You have just the
22:52the sales approach, which is how much
22:54would this house sell compared to
22:56another house in the neighborhood. And
22:57with small single-family homes, that's
22:59very easy to do.
23:01When it comes to commercial property and
23:03multi-family property, so anything
23:04that's above five units and above, that
23:07qualifies as commercial. Then you get
23:09into the income approach, and you also
23:12have another approach, which is the cost
23:14approach, which would be the cost to
23:16replace the building if it was
23:17demolished or destroyed by fire.
23:20So, when it comes to multi-family
23:22apartment buildings, like the one in
23:23question, the income approach is the one
23:26that's most considered. So, we take the
23:29presentation of what the appellant gave
23:32us, which is the rent roll, the the um
23:36expenses minus the property taxes, and
23:39you determine what the net operating
23:41income is, and then there's formulas
23:44used to to determine what the value of
23:46the property is compared to that. So,
23:50in our analysis, it's just surely just a
23:52recommendation. We're documenting that
23:55at the hearing, the the assessor's
23:57office was present or not, what
24:00documents the the appellant provided,
24:02and then what the conclusion is based
24:04off of that. So, in certain times,
24:08you'll have situations where the vacancy
24:11has increased in certain multi-family
24:13properties, so that each year the kind
24:15of the value of the property is going
24:17down because it's actually not producing
24:19anything. So, when it's an
24:21income-producing property, you cannot
24:24ignore the income approach to valuation
24:28of property.
24:28>> let me let me interrupt. I'm sorry. Um
24:31So, just for my knowledge, when when you
24:33all have these hearings or whatever, and
24:36folks are presenting you, these
24:37landlords are presenting you these
24:39figures, I mean, are these folks under
24:41oath? How do we know this information is
24:43accurate? How do we know we're not
24:45they're not making it up and trying to
24:47game the system?
24:48>> Um so, in our capacity, we are we're
24:51we're taking them at face value, and
24:53then we put that in the recommendation
24:55to you to
24:57>> and it it it appeared to be in order at
25:00the time.
25:01>> All right. Well, that doesn't give me
25:02much comfort. Thank you very much for
25:03that clarity, though.
25:06>> Councilmember Karen.
25:07>> Thank you. Thank you all for presenting
25:09today.
25:10It So, it's incredibly important that we
25:12have a process, obviously, that has
25:13integrity, fairness, and accountability.
25:16And here we have a situation where we
25:19have a
25:20elected official and his team
25:23points pointing out considerable
25:24concerns on a small number of specific
25:27properties, which you all have
25:28discussed. And while we can't
25:29independently verify these concerns at
25:31this time, I believe at this time it's
25:34wise for the council to take heed of
25:36these issues and the perceived conflict
25:38of interest without penalizing those
25:41that have gone through the the process
25:43to get relief. And as you noted in your
25:45presentation, you know, these properties
25:48that are not approved can go through
25:50appeals to the Louisiana Tax Commission.
25:52So, with that, members, I'm going to
25:54make a motion to change HDI's report to
25:58modify the recommendations to no change
26:01for the 41 unique properties mentioned
26:05in your report and as contained in
26:07Assessor Williams' letter dated October
26:108th, 2026. Can I get a second?
26:13>> Second.
26:14>> All those in favor?
26:16>> Aye. I'd like to comment, though.
26:19>> Seven yes, no nays.
26:21>> I'd like to
26:21>> comment, though. My button was pressed,
26:22but I just want to make your comment. I
26:24just want to make it clear. My button
26:25was pressed, and I've had that happen,
26:27unfortunately, before. But I just want
26:30to say that I would hope that in the
26:31future there'll be enhanced
26:33communication with the assessor's office
26:36and your firm. You're put in a position
26:38where you have to do certain work based
26:40on things that have gone on for multiple
26:42years, and I understand that
26:44disagreements can take place. But I'm
26:46going to certainly just ask publicly
26:48that there be enhanced communication. I
26:50don't like to read in the paper, to be
26:53very honest with you, something that is
26:55involving correspondence that is sent to
26:57me when the party that is being
27:00addressed hasn't been notified.
27:02So, I'm just asking that there be
27:04enhanced communications without using
27:05names. The second thing that I want to
27:07say is where where as I hear concerns, I
27:10want to say now in advance next year in
27:132027 from July 15th to August 17th
27:18those who paid taxes in the city of New
27:20Orleans can go to the assessor's office
27:23and appeal your assessment. Anyone who
27:26is an advocate for people in our city
27:30who feel that they've been aggrieved can
27:32share that information starting now
27:33because it's not going to change. There
27:35was a lot that went on because in the
27:37past it was only one week and you have
27:39to go and stand in a long line to get
27:41your assessment readdressed. Anybody
27:43who's been watching this process knows
27:45that there has been work and it has
27:47changed the process. So, now it's a
27:49month. July 15th to August 17th of next
27:52year, Housing NOLA and advocates, please
27:55you can start the process now. I
27:57publicize in my newsletter when the
27:59appeals process is open. You can also
28:02appeal online. So, you don't even have
28:04to come and stand in line as it was
28:06years ago. So, many changes have taken
28:08place but it's up to advocates to also
28:10share the the facts and information and
28:13if you want to see changes take place,
28:15use the state because for some reason
28:18some people can't seem to find their way
28:20to Baton Rouge and can't comment online.
28:23A lot of what the city of New Orleans is
28:25obliged to do is created in Baton Rouge
28:27through certain processes. I watch them
28:30and others watch them too, especially if
28:32you're an advocate. I encourage that.
28:33So, that's all. July 15th through August
28:3617th next year and let's have enhanced
28:38communications by all parties involved.
28:41>> Thank Thank you, Councilman. I agree I
28:43agree that that that the process has
28:45been adjusted to make it more accessible
28:47to the public in that that 30-day open
28:50date. And we also agree we we were
28:52blindsided by that letter. We we had no
28:54idea cuz we're working with the
28:56assessor's office on site through the
28:58whole process.
28:59Um so uh yeah, I think there's a better
29:01way to communicate.
29:02>> Yes.
29:02>> Okay.
29:04I believe with that we have completed
29:06all items before the Sorry, go ahead,
29:08sir.
29:08>> Your honor, sir. Um
29:09not all of those properties on that list
29:12were have that person involved.
29:14>> Okay.
29:15>> For the record. There are several
29:16residential properties that were just
29:19chosen.
29:20We don't know how they came up with
29:21those.
29:22>> Okay. Well, I I I look forward to you
29:23guys communicating with the assessor's
29:25office and look forward to what happens
29:27with tax commissioner regarding those
29:28properties. So with that, um that clears
29:30our docket.
29:31>> No, no, sir.
29:32>> All right, sir.
29:33>> the actual resolution
29:34>> Oh, I apologize.
29:36Okay, then. I'm jumping ahead of the
29:37process.
29:37>> And for the members' information, the
29:39exhibit that's referenced in resolution
29:4126-1 will be amended to include um what
29:44the council voted on via Councilwoman
29:46Karen's motion.
29:49>> Councilman Green has moved.
29:52Get a second.
29:53Seconded by Councilwoman Karen.
29:55All in favor? Aye.
29:57Any opposed?
29:59Here we should vote. There you go.
30:01Seven ayes, no [snorts] nays.
30:04Thank you.
30:06Councilman Hughes moves we adjourn.
30:08>> There's resolution R-2.
30:09>> Second.
30:11It's right there.
30:12>> The second one.
30:13And this just says that this will be
30:15certified to the tax commission.
30:26>> All right.
30:28Seven ayes, no nays.
30:29>> And now you can move.
30:30>> All right. Councilman Hughes moves we
30:31adjourn. Seconded by Councilwoman Green.
30:33All in favor, say aye.
30:35Opposed? Hearing none, we are adjourned.
30:37Thank you.
30:38We need to reset now for the next
30:41meeting.