2026-09-23 - Sustainability Integration Board

00:00Okay. What is that?

00:01>> It's 6:15 guys, you know, our time for

00:03set good book. We'd like to say thank

00:05you so much for joining us today uh

00:07virtually and in person.

00:09And I believe uh as I said it's coming

00:11to the end of 2026. So, this September

00:14meeting we do have one more October, you

00:16know. And I appreciate everyone's time

00:19and efforts for the previous meetings.

00:21Our main focus was mainly to develop

00:23like a frame for the waste reduction

00:25consideration.

00:27Uh you did a great job, you know, for

00:29collecting information and interacting

00:31with the residents of Wichita.

00:33Uh we invited people here to listen. So,

00:36so so far so good.

00:38Um so,

00:40we have like a few uh agenda items for

00:42today.

00:44We'll start with the staff updates from

00:46Liz.

00:47And also after that we'll move to the

00:48any updates from other force.

00:50I wish for my own update and um

00:53initially we had uh two items for the

00:56meeting today. Um

00:58one about about 2026 goal. And the other

01:01one from the city but uh Julie will not

01:03be here today.

01:05So, we'll allocate all the times for our

01:072026 goal. So, Liz, the floor is yours.

01:11>> Yeah. Um so, the past couple weeks or

01:13for uh Kelly on vacation we were doing

01:16our committee meetings. We tried to use

01:18a um

01:20consultant uh to work with for the E

01:22ramp um grant that we were given by

01:24KDHE. That's a $200,000 grant to further

01:28um develop the community resiliency plan

01:30but I cost-benefit analysis other things

01:32like that. Um that was a grant passed on

01:34from the EPA to KDHE and then it was

01:36given to the top five cities. We were

01:38able to accept it last summer um and we

01:40finally got someone chosen. Um so, work

01:42should begin on that very soon.

01:44Um all the candidates were really great.

01:47We ended up interviewing four of them um

01:49and it was a really difficult choice.

01:51So, we do think um it's going to work

01:52really well. Um we'll keep you guys

01:54updated as that moves along. Right now

01:56we're waiting for the final contract to

01:58come in and then get that signed um and

01:59sent it away and then work should begin.

02:02Um and we do anticipate everything

02:03should be done within a year.

02:05So.

02:06>> Can I ask a question on that?

02:07>> Yes.

02:08>> In terms of the you said community

02:09resiliency,

02:11can you get I maybe I missed the

02:13details. Can you get a little more

02:14specific about what the uh contract or

02:16the request for proposal contains?

02:18>> Yeah, yeah, of course. So, there are

02:19certain requirements for this grant. So,

02:21they gave us $200,000 to um

02:24create or if you already have a

02:27community resiliency plan, which we did

02:28already develop one. Um it gave us money

02:31to further develop it basically um but

02:33not actually to work on projects from

02:35the community resiliency plan. Um so,

02:37within the confines of this grant, what

02:39we asked from uh from the consultants in

02:41the RFP was uh do a cost benefit

02:45cost benefit analysis, uh community

02:47engagement, we asked for a dashboard uh

02:49for public transparency and to mark

02:51progress as well um to choose I think

02:53like a few top

02:55projects/measures

02:57to really kind of hone in how are you

02:59going to do this step by step to help us

03:00really um achieve some of the goals in

03:02there.

03:03Um so, just really kind of help us get

03:05it into a final form where hopefully we

03:06can get it passed um through council.

03:09>> And is that transparency board something

03:11that's meant to be public facing?

03:12>> Yep, of course, yes. So, the plan is to

03:15as we're progressing on certain measures

03:17that are outlined in the community

03:18resiliency plan that board or that um

03:21uh that

03:22outward facing um

03:24database will be um

03:26updated and so you so people can

03:28actually see the progress, kind of see

03:30what's being done. Um it will also give

03:32us a new greenhouse gas emissions um

03:35update. So, a new one from the one that

03:38used 2021 data, greenhouse gas emissions

03:40inventory.

03:41>> What's the time frame on that greenhouse

03:43gas update? I mean, if everything goes

03:44according to plan, is that going to be a

03:466-month thing, a year-long thing or

03:48>> So, all of the deliverables should end

03:50within the year because that's when the

03:52grant we have to use up all the money.

03:53So, they said they can do it. We're

03:54using 2025 data, so we shouldn't have

03:56any trouble starting.

03:58Um and they a lot from the one that we

04:00chose, whose name is escaping me at this

04:02moment. Um

04:04they want the greenhouse gas emissions

04:06done first so they can use that as a

04:08basis um to kind of

04:10develop everything else um based on the

04:13emissions data and maybe what um targets

04:16we can hit more and how we can tackle

04:18more of that emissions data.

04:19>> But but how long will it take them to

04:21compile the report? I mean, is it just a

04:23matter of putting together existing data

04:24or do they need to do

04:26>> It's existing data. So, it's not going

04:27to take them too long to do it.

04:28>> like beginning of 2027.

04:30>> I think so. Yeah.

04:32>> Is there any money left in the grant uh

04:36allocation that has an outreach or an

04:39awareness component or or even an

04:42execution component if uh the metrics of

04:44certain things are, you know, off track

04:48in terms of the city?

04:49>> I mean, it's a

04:50So, within the confines of the grant, we

04:51can't use anything as far like once the

04:55contract we are basically using all the

04:57money with this contractor. So, once

04:58that is like done, that's all the money

05:00we have. But within that scope that the

05:03RFP requested was community engagement

05:05and so there's a few steps of community

05:07engagement not only at the beginning as

05:09it's putting being put together, but

05:10also um after some of this data has come

05:13out. So, after the emissions inventory,

05:14after um performance measures have been

05:16added, after um it just kind of depends

05:18how we want they're very open to

05:20tailoring it how we want it to be

05:21tailored um and then the types of

05:23community engagement can vary based on

05:25um you know, what we choose, whether we

05:26choose to kind of do um you know, like

05:29town hall style, if we want to do more

05:31surveys, um but it will vary. But yes,

05:34community engagement is going to be a

05:35large part of it.

05:36>> That's great. Has the city talked about

05:38um

05:39aligning with or with our board to share

05:41both maybe the final uh I don't know if

05:44we've if we've you seen a copy of the

05:46final contracts and kind of the intent

05:49of what's the prototype of what's being

05:51built?

05:52>> Uh not for the contract portion of it,

05:54no. Um

05:55that wouldn't involve the board, but for

05:57community engagement and as they're

05:59going along the board will be included.

06:00>> Okay.

06:02That's great. Maybe we can plan some of

06:04that into our early 2027 goals in terms

06:07of initiatives or ways that we can

06:09magnify or you know, amplify it.

06:11>> That's a good idea.

06:14>> Um and I do apologize. I'm not sure what

06:17um Kelly meant with the KDHE grant

06:19update. Um I do know she is currently

06:21working um for composting sites to do a

06:24composting pilot with that KDHE. That

06:26was a solid waste grant one. Um I don't

06:28really have any more updates on that. I

06:30forgot to ask her before she left. I

06:31didn't um see that part on the agenda.

06:34So I am so sorry. She might have to

06:35update you guys more if there's anything

06:36else to be updated. I know she was

06:38looking at the Advanced Learning Library

06:40as a potential site. I think we're

06:42talking with libraries about that. Um so

06:44it'll be a good place to be able to

06:45target kind of those downtown apartments

06:46that might not have that option to be

06:48able to locally do composting here. Um

06:51and forget who the composter was. She

06:53was

06:53>> Nudge.

06:54>> Yes, Nudge Composting.

06:55>> Yes.

06:57>> Yes. So

06:58>> a question?

07:00Your hand's up.

07:03Try again. Maybe she can't hear you.

07:07>> Lori, did you have a question?

07:09>> Well, I mean I thought that there might

07:12be some community members there wanting

07:14to know where the trees stand right now.

07:17Has it all been given away? Is there any

07:19money left?

07:21>> Okay. Uh there is still money left. It

07:23has not all been given away. I've only

07:25received maybe 10 applications so far.

07:28Um

07:29so it has not all been given away yet.

07:33>> Okay, thank you. I know that they are

07:35going that ICT Trees was hoping to help

07:39with this somehow. So I hope that y'all

07:42have heard from them.

07:43>> Yeah, they did uh and I could not be

07:46there but

07:47we parks worked with them to do an event

07:49at the Maya Angelou Community Garden

07:52event on Saturday. So, they were there

07:53doing demonstration with parks. We also

07:55have a tree like planting guidance that

07:57went along with it and so they had

07:59flyers

08:00with the information about how to apply

08:01for the tree rebate.

08:04>> Oh, perfect. Great. Thank you.

08:19>> presentation of the

08:22Um and it looks like we'll move on to

08:25board updates.

08:29>> Do you have any updates for us on that

08:30for you?

08:30>> Unfortunately, I was unable to attend

08:33the bike ped

08:35um advisory board meeting yesterday and

08:38I haven't received any notification

08:40about what they discussed. I know that

08:44there was a um

08:47a conversation taking place amongst

08:50bike ped board members pertaining to

08:54complaints or possibly just a single

08:57complaint. It's not clear that was

09:00received

09:02by the parks department in connection

09:04with

09:05bicycle and pedestrian use of the

09:09walkways at Sedgwick County Park and uh

09:14there was

09:15>> [snorts]

09:16>> a conversation going on about whether it

09:18might be useful to post speed limits to

09:22alert cyclists, to restrict cyclists to

09:26only the outer perimeter of the pathways

09:29in Sedgwick County rather than the

09:31interior pathways.

09:33Um

09:35Uh I I mean I could share

09:38with people on the board emails that

09:41have gone back and forth and draft

09:42letters that were sent to the Parks

09:45Department, but I don't know if

09:48um you know, the the conversation had

09:50gone beyond that. There's nothing so far

09:53as I know that is imminent in terms of

09:57changes in the infrastructure at Central

09:59County Park. And that may not have been,

10:01you know,

10:03a major conversation at the bike ped

10:06meeting. I'm just aware that that's

10:07something that attracted a a fair amount

10:10of conversation over the past month. And

10:14it's, you know, I I I assume a reality.

10:17It's on the the radar screen of

10:21decision-makers in Parks and Rec. Um but

10:25yeah, that's Sorry I didn't make it to

10:27the meeting, so I don't have anything

10:28else to share.

10:29>> Just had a minute to Is this like a

10:31safety concern about people like a

10:32seating?

10:33>> Well, the original complaint was

10:37voiced as a safety concern. It did not

10:39make reference to any actual incident,

10:43but rather suggested that there's going

10:45to be an incident. And then things kind

10:47of got to snowball and several of the

10:50people involved started asking, "Wait a

10:53minute, is there just this one person

10:56who spoke out to the Parks and Rec? Have

10:58there been multiple people?" And

11:01uh

11:02the answers that we've gotten from Parks

11:04and Rec, at least on the basis of the

11:06communications I'm aware of, are not

11:08especially clear as to whether or not

11:11there's actually some kind of

11:12groundswell

11:15from users at Central County Park. So

11:17>> Can I have a question?

11:18>> Sure.

11:19>> Uh, yeah. Are the pathways only for

11:22walkers? They're not

11:23>> No, they're all multi-use.

11:24>> Okay, that's what I thought.

11:26>> There's not even any restrictions on

11:27North Shore Boulevard, the the the road

11:30through there. I mean, they they could

11:32stick restrictions on there, but if

11:33there are restrictions right now saying

11:36that that pedestrians and cyclists can't

11:38use North Shore Road Boulevard, there's

11:41no signage to say that. And everything

11:44else is multi-use. And so So, the

11:47question is like maybe we want to change

11:49that, maybe we want to put in speed

11:51limits, maybe we want to create some

11:53kind of infrastructure or education, or

11:56maybe it's not actually a problem.

11:58>> Yeah, yeah. I And this is something that

12:00allows the golf carts on the sidewalk.

12:02Some regulation can apply. Yeah, that's

12:04something different.

12:05>> Yeah, that's that's something different.

12:07>> to see like something they're trying to

12:08translate it to the cyclist. That's why

12:10I'm trying to see

12:11analogy between the both dots, you know.

12:14Okay.

12:16Okay, thanks, nothing.

12:17>> Sure.

12:18>> Is there any connection to the emergency

12:20room visits that have escalated recently

12:23from

12:24children

12:26who have been on

12:29e-bikes or whatever, um who have been in

12:31accidents?

12:32>> I have not heard anything about that.

12:35I mean, that could be the case, but if

12:36so, I haven't heard any conversation

12:38about that. In fact, I don't even know

12:40about that data. Is that in fact the

12:42case? Has there actually been

12:43>> if there's three or 30 cases this past

12:46summer where children were going 20 plus

12:4917 plus miles an hour on their e-things?

12:52Um

12:54And I think it's just on

12:56in neighborhoods. I don't think they're

12:57on trails.

12:58>> I don't know anything about that.

13:00>> That's been reported or whatnot.

13:02>> In neighborhoods, I don't think they're

13:03on necessarily on biking trails.

13:06>> I have an update.

13:08>> Yeah, yeah, you're up next.

13:09>> Yeah, I'm done.

13:09>> Okay. Um

13:11I So, this was kind of maybe a little

13:14bit preemptive, but I was trying to

13:15apply for the KLC Common Good Grant

13:19Partnership

13:20because that grant money is going

13:22towards 2027.

13:24Um I tried to work with I had met with

13:27somebody from KLC that does the

13:28programming.

13:29Um

13:30it was it's Rainy Summers. Do you know

13:32Rainy? And is it Rainy? Am I saying it

13:35right? Rainy?

13:36>> Rainy.

13:36>> Rainy. Rainy.

13:37And uh so she said, "Look, we will

13:40accommodate as many seats as the city of

13:42Wichita wants us to use and we don't

13:44determine where those seats go." So my

13:46avenue was

13:48could we could we access some of these

13:50licensed seats for funding from Wichita

13:53city committees rather than just

13:55employees.

13:57Uh well, I went and reached out to Betty

14:00Schrader and I got shot down right away.

14:03Uh but they do not guarantee spots and

14:05that our target audience is only city

14:07employees. But I was hoping we could use

14:09some of that money for leadership

14:10training in terms of the everyone can

14:13lead and the leaders leadership edge

14:15workshops next year for the committee,

14:16but

14:18it didn't work out. So

14:19>> Yeah.

14:20>> Um

14:21and then the other update which we can

14:22get into later in the meeting, but I did

14:24get back I did meet with Kelly before

14:27she broke away on the data sets from the

14:29public survey site

14:31for waste collection, which is all

14:33self-reported

14:35and there's a data set there that's

14:37quarterly and probably won't surprise

14:40you guys, but it's not a very large data

14:41set.

14:42Um

14:43the good news is it is address specific

14:46um which is a little different structure

14:49to the data than how Lori your your

14:51survey on improving trash and ICT

14:55which is only district specific. So I'm

14:59I'm working on that piece of it, but

15:01there's there's some public data there

15:02and then I thank thank you everybody who

15:05contributed to the new trash hauler

15:06pricing service data. You guys that were

15:09able to reach out, I really appreciate

15:10that. Um so that's in process. We can

15:13talk about that more.

15:14>> Yeah, thanks for sharing that with us.

15:23Um

15:24we can move on to the next item.

15:26Uh

15:27I would like to share my screen as if

15:28you can allow me from the access.

15:38Um

15:41to the participants

15:43and people.

15:44Um

15:45uh my name's Lucia. Make a presenter.

15:50I do the same in my work when I invite

15:51people, you know.

15:54>> [laughter]

15:54>> It was said [clears throat] Did it

15:55another way at another time. Anyway,

15:57whatever.

15:57>> be. Might be. Yeah.

15:59>> You just wanted to make sure to keep

16:00your talk muted otherwise we'll get that

16:01weird feedback again.

16:15>> This is fancy building.

16:18>> What are you going to share it, Brian?

16:20>> I'm trying to share my screen but looks

16:22like I have some technical issues here

16:23but

16:24>> Uh okay.

16:31>> I'm just curious who on the board has

16:33completed the KLC training.

16:35>> Your leadership edge. Have you all

16:37completed those Russell?

16:41>> Is that

16:43I did everyone can lead the half-day

16:45workshop but not leadership edge is a

16:47little longer, more intensive training.

16:50>> I took it as a class in undergrad.

16:53>> I've completed all three but that's when

16:55it was in three and it was through We

16:58had grants through libraries.

17:00Those scholarships for librarians across

17:02the state.

17:03>> third one? You said all three?

17:04>> Return the lead for change.

17:06>> Okay.

17:07>> It is It's I have some security reason

17:09with my laptop doesn't allow me to share

17:11screen. Can I share my slide with you?

17:13>> Yeah.

17:14>> Okay.

17:15>> So I think that'd be worth it.

17:16>> Your laptop's not allowing or is it? Do

17:18you do the workbook? My laptop Oh,

17:20weird. I have to go some settings, you

17:21know. I'm not sure why I'm doing the

17:23workbook. I'm new to this one. This was

17:25a long time ago. Feel free to Yeah,

17:26yeah, I will do that right now.

17:28Oh, so it's probably been revised since

17:30then. Yeah, the workbook I thought was

17:32helpful. What did you use for your

17:34>> Um,

17:35I think I went through it in 2018.

17:39And it was a three-step.

17:44>> I think they

17:45They framed a lot more depth in my tiers

17:47to it now.

17:48Cuz the Leadership Edge has a

17:50facilitator aspect. It's a two-day

17:51workshop.

17:53It's pretty pricey. So I'm doing it on

17:55my own without a grant.

17:57Usually they give now.

18:21>> Is it a big presentation?

18:23>> Is it a big presentation?

18:24>> I want to slide things and slides.

18:26>> [laughter]

18:27>> We're

18:28We're small enough that we could

18:29probably just stand up and share it.

18:31Yeah, I can do that.

18:33>> Yeah, I haven't received anything yet.

18:34>> That's okay.

18:35>> Should we get my email, Ibrahim? I go

18:37away for a few months and you forget

18:38about me.

18:39>> This is all on the webpage.

18:44>> What copy should we get?

18:47Personally, yeah.

18:49Because

18:52>> Is this new?

18:53>> Yeah. Well, the update on the website I

18:56think happened last winter.

18:58So it's relatively new, yes.

19:00>> Oh, I have another update while we're

19:02waiting for Ibrahim's computer.

19:04Um,

19:05I also met with Kelly about the

19:07infographic on all the wind energy and

19:09the the large power agreement that we

19:11have with Evergy and the wind savings

19:14and

19:15it's kind of at a dead it's a kind of at

19:18a stalling point because Kelly was

19:20instructed that she could just put it up

19:22on the website.

19:23She doesn't have access to any

19:26additional resources to like a webmaster

19:28that's going to reconfigure, you know,

19:30the sustainability page today

19:32for the board for the city doesn't

19:34really have a there's not really a place

19:37um for it to go. So, it would it would

19:39really require some redesign. It's not

19:41like they can put posts or anything.

19:44Um so, it's kind of at a dead

19:46dead standstill. And I was going to post

19:49it on my LinkedIn network. And

19:52at-mention, you know, see which all I

19:53can at-mention those of you that I can

19:55find on LinkedIn. I think I think I can

19:57find everybody in this room. Yeah. I

19:59think you're all on LinkedIn. But, um

20:02some of the board members are not don't

20:03all have like accessible LinkedIn

20:05profiles. And we can share it that way,

20:07but that's that is actually a kind of an

20:10interesting maybe talking point because

20:12there are limitations to what

20:15the board can post since we don't have

20:17social media presence.

20:18>> Yeah, we don't

20:19>> Uh and and we could talk about that, but

20:21there seem to be limitations on what

20:24what kind of um

20:25the voice of the board can be in a

20:27public-facing way without the city and

20:30the website's not going to be revised,

20:32she said, anytime soon. So, it's kind of

20:34a moot point

20:36>> Mhm.

20:36>> in terms of them putting it up. So.

20:38>> What's We agreed last time to get access

20:41to the same website and allow your

20:44infographic to be on the same website.

20:46This is should be settled, right?

20:49>> But, it isn't. That's kind of what I'm

20:51getting at is, you know, the board

20:52website today, it's a large infographic,

20:55right? So, to structure it on the board

20:57website would require some rework.

21:00>> Mhm.

21:01>> Because it's not text. It's not

21:03formatted that way.

21:05Um so, she said that it sounds like

21:07there's like

21:08I don't know if it's a a bureaucratic

21:10thing or if it's just a lack of

21:12resources thing, but there doesn't seem

21:14to be

21:14>> straightforward to

21:15>> a direct way for the website to be

21:17revised.

21:18>> is yes and yes.

21:20>> I mean, it can be, but

21:22>> We did get approval in that email there.

21:23We did get approval to put it on there.

21:25That wasn't the issue. I think it's just

21:27like the lack of resources to rework the

21:28website to make it visible and

21:30accessible because that is a requirement

21:32for us. Everything we put on there has

21:33to be accessible. Um, so

21:36wasn't I wasn't aware of that, but my

21:39assumption is going to be that Kelly

21:41probably doesn't have I don't have the

21:42technical skills to rework the website

21:44either and our website person probably

21:46doesn't have the time to do it and is

21:47probably putting her on hold.

21:49>> Well, I understand you only have one

21:51website person.

21:53>> Yeah, as far as like so I can edit the

21:56website.

21:56>> city?

21:57>> So I can edit the website, Kelly can

21:59edit the website, we can, but only one

22:01person is like I guess designing it all.

22:04>> Right.

22:04>> So as far as like I She updates, puts up

22:07the minutes now and stuff like that we

22:09can do on our own. Like I built the tree

22:11rebate website. It's pretty simple stuff

22:13to do, but reworking it for something

22:15that's not meant to be on a website like

22:17that is pretty difficult for us um, to

22:19do. So.

22:21>> It's almost like it needs a new

22:22subsection with, you know, these menus

22:24over here on the left-hand side. It

22:25needs to be a a panel that comes out

22:28with like board updates or something.

22:30It's not just this text page. So it's

22:32like a template template issue,

22:34functionality issue.

22:35>> Yeah.

22:36>> Um, so that's why it's tabled. I just

22:38wanted you all to know. I still plan on

22:40posting about it and putting some

22:41thought into like, you know, a kind of a

22:43thought leadership piece on it.

22:45Um, but maybe that's also something we

22:47can think about yeah. Prioritizing as

22:49far as what voice and role can the board

22:52play

22:53on its own or have a voice that's

22:56separate from the limitations of this

22:58site since there are clearly there are

22:59some limitations. Like if we wanted to

23:01do future work, like for instance, Susan

23:04has a ton of great data on Sedgwick

23:05County's waste management, all those

23:07analytics, all that all that statistical

23:09information would be really helpful to

23:11put out there.

23:12>> I don't know.

23:13>> Where can we put that out? What what

23:14kind of venue do we have access to?

23:17Um, and what would the process look

23:19like? Those are things that I've been

23:20thinking about.

23:22>> Yeah, yeah. Good ideas and then

23:23>> are worth discussing and trying to

23:25understand what to make of our goals.

23:28>> What's that? To our goals, you mean?

23:30>> Yes.

23:31>> Towards our the publicity?

23:32>> Yeah.

23:33>> Yeah.

23:33>> All right.

23:33>> Yeah, just awareness so to the community

23:36of

23:37all this information

23:38would people start to make

23:42different, even if it's little

23:44incremental decisions, would they start

23:46to do things differently with access to

23:48this information?

23:50>> Yeah.

23:50>> I'm sure it's

23:52simple for me to say, can we just at

23:54least link your information?

23:57Because a webmaster should be able to

23:59link without going into great HTML

24:03detail.

24:04>> Mhm.

24:05>> You know, how you add a link.

24:07>> Yeah.

24:07>> It depends on where, you know, the

24:09infographic can be hosted in different

24:11cloud services.

24:13Um, so to Carmen's point, could it be a

24:15link, a hyperlink with some text?

24:17>> Yeah, so we can definitely update. Um,

24:19so I do this regularly. We just upload

24:21the document and then have it just link

24:23there. The only issue is that if you

24:25guys, I mean, it's a really nice

24:26graphic, so that's what's going to pull

24:27people to it. I think as a link, you're

24:29not really going to get the traffic you

24:31want. Um, I'm going to be honest, that

24:33the website already probably doesn't get

24:34a lot of traffic. Um, and so then adding

24:37on having people find a link

24:39>> Right. It doesn't matter.

24:40>> We can definitely do that. That's no

24:41problem. We can do that.

24:42>> more friction to what the whole purpose

24:45of an infographic is.

24:46You see the visual and that's what pulls

24:48you in.

24:48>> Mhm.

24:49But we could do that and then in

24:52posts

24:53show that direct link to it, perhaps, as

24:56a backfill.

24:58>> But if it's a But if it's a hosted text

25:00link on the board site that goes to a

25:02new tab that launches open

25:04>> So you won't be able to

25:05>> The link you're providing, right, from

25:07like a social media standpoint isn't

25:08even going to take them to the board

25:09site. It's going to take them to that

25:11hosted link site, which is kind of a

25:12dead

25:13>> Call to action, do you know what I

25:14>> Yeah, but they're digital page, where

25:15where do they go from there? And then it

25:17doesn't correlate to anything that's

25:18related to the board because they're

25:20kind of in this one entry way room.

25:24>> my bad analogy.

25:25>> Yeah.

25:26>> You know, so I I think

25:29What Do any other boards do anything

25:32when it comes to efficacy or, you know,

25:35education awareness

25:37with when it comes to city city

25:40resources, city digital resources?

25:42>> Not really. Um I think probably DABs are

25:45probably the ones who keep them most

25:46up-to-date. Um and for them it's really

25:48factual. I would say maybe the park

25:51board has a pretty good website. Well, I

25:53think that was only when they were doing

25:54the bike plan. They had a whole separate

25:56website. Um those are kind of the only

25:57times when something separate is created

25:59and that's something

26:01um

26:01I don't know

26:03bike head board had funding or if it was

26:05like I'm assuming it was parks funding

26:07um that they were able to build that

26:08website outside of the city server.

26:10>> See, like I'm curious. So parks and rec

26:12has this these tiles, these visual

26:14tiles.

26:15>> Mhm.

26:16>> So

26:17why couldn't that be something that the

26:19infographic would be how nested as a

26:21tile with description below?

26:24>> I'm sure a website person could do it. I

26:25can't do it.

26:27>> What would you suggest

26:28and I'm I'm Brennan, I'm not trying to

26:29pick on you or anything, but what would

26:31you suggest as an action item we could

26:33take, who we should reach out to,

26:36what what we could cuz I can frame the

26:37this the the messaging and you guys can

26:40look at it and see if that makes sense.

26:42But I would like to from the outside be

26:44able to reference like a page like this

26:45and say, could we set up and adjust the

26:48the SID page landing page to also have a

26:51capability.

26:53>> Email that to Kelly and I'm sure once

26:55since it's already something that's been

26:57built, it shouldn't be too difficult to

26:59copy over.

27:01Um, I don't know what type of image was

27:04put on there or how that was built or

27:05anything. Um, but I'm sure if we have a

27:07visual to work off, maybe that's

27:08something we can work on. Um, but

27:10externally I don't think there's

27:11anything you guys can do. It would be us

27:13having to reach out to like our website

27:14website.

27:14>> That's fine. I can do that. I'll take

27:16that as my takeaway from this meeting.

27:18Kelly's back in town.

27:19>> She'll be back Monday, I believe.

27:21>> Okay. Yeah, I'll I'll take that as a

27:22takeaway.

27:24Cuz then, you know, if we can rebuild

27:26that, then we have the option for now a

27:28new paved path for future work where we

27:30want to add more down the down the road,

27:32you know.

27:33>> I bet she'll be back next Thursday.

27:34>> That's okay.

27:35>> A week from tomorrow.

27:36>> I I

27:37I can wait. I'm going to schedule the

27:39the follow-up.

27:40>> A small recommendation, you know. Every

27:42meeting here is recorded and this is

27:43supposed to be on YouTube, you know.

27:45And if you have your infographic with

27:47kind of background music, kind of

27:49animation,

27:50like 30 seconds,

27:52you can work with the city to upload it

27:53to the YouTube. People can click it and

27:56you can see it, you know.

27:58>> I see what you're saying.

27:59>> Like kind of AI animation, you know what

28:01I mean? Something can

28:03give dynamic for your infographic. I

28:04like it. So attractive. But this is

28:07another channel, you know, to

28:09kind of

28:10uh, reach out to the audience, you know,

28:12having this video on YouTube.

28:15Like 15 seconds, 20 seconds, like short

28:17reel, whatever you call it, you know.

28:19Yeah.

28:20>> Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I I appreciate that. I

28:22think I think there's lots of other

28:24things that we could probably be

28:25tackling.

28:27I could also just do it as a standstill

28:28as a still frame and still have,

28:30you know, a description, the information

28:32about it, and then a link to the

28:34to the SIP. But, um, is that something

28:37that we can

28:38that we can request be posted under the

28:41city's YouTube channel?

28:43>> Um, usually we only do like official

28:45like recordings of meetings and stuff

28:47and like stuff like that. Um if you guys

28:50have seen the city's YouTube channel,

28:52it's pretty full of stuff as is their

28:53social media. So, our comms team is kind

28:56of picky about what they do and don't

28:57post on there.

28:58>> That's what I thought. Good to know.

29:00>> Okay. [laughter] Okay. Sorry for that.

29:01Thank you.

29:01>> No, that's fine.

29:03>> Okay, so good ideas.

29:05So, let's move on to my update today.

29:07So, I tried to have my update is to be

29:10connected with what we are doing for

29:11this year, 2026.

29:13We all agreed that we need to have a

29:15move, right? From the open market

29:17collection system for our trash

29:20or our waste to be like a strategic

29:23waste collection to minimize emissions,

29:25to give

29:26options for recycling and all this

29:28stuff. And they found this example from

29:30LA, California.

29:31Uh before 2016, they had around 144

29:36hauler taking care for the entire city.

29:39So, maybe for 1 week, you can see seven

29:42or 10 trucks serving the same same zone

29:45or the same neighborhood, you know? You

29:47can imagine how much emissions coming

29:49from the gas emissions, how much damage

29:52to the infrastructure, and all this

29:54messy stuff, you know?

29:55And they decided in 2016 to have kind of

29:58program is called Zero Waste LA.

30:01And this program or this system is

30:03reducing the number of haulers in city

30:06from 144 to seven haulers. And they're

30:09giving that they have also like

30:12kind of have a like a strategic

30:13structure for the city having as you can

30:15see here like 11 zones. For every zone,

30:17there is one hauler taking care of this

30:19entire zone, you know? And they're

30:21giving that they have like optimization

30:23efforts to minimize the trips, to

30:25minimize the gas emissions. And you can

30:27see all the positive points behind that.

30:30And also they allowed the haulers to

30:32have two uh bins like with two different

30:35colors. One for the recyclables, one for

30:38the organics. So, encourage the people

30:40to

30:41uh

30:41kind of taking care of the waste not

30:44only like in one bin collecting

30:45everything. And this is helped it a lot

30:47the city, you know? And I believe what

30:49we are doing now

30:51for the previous meetings and it will be

30:53ongoing activity, ongoing goal.

30:56I'm not expecting to end it by October.

30:58We have to have a very very solid

31:00framework when we convey to the city.

31:02So, I believe

31:04the work came from Qusai and from Lori

31:06and from the other to have this kind of

31:08uh, online forms.

31:10They should go to our residents, fill it

31:12up and start to get this information.

31:14This can help us, you know? As waste

31:16right now is running under open market,

31:18right?

31:19But if you go to the news, like I was

31:20trying to see what is the historical

31:22information which the city

31:24The city is started in 2010

31:27to have kind of a flat rate

31:29for um, the waste collection from the

31:32haulers, like $20.

31:34And um,

31:35the city did receive like assistance

31:37from the residents.

31:39>> They used to have resistance.

31:40>> resistance

31:40>> resistance

31:41>> Meaning that they need to beg their own

31:43hauler, you know?

31:45Um, this is you can go to that 2010. Um,

31:49and they ended up that in 2011.

31:52>> [clears throat]

31:52>> And right now we came back to the same

31:56uh,

31:56block, block number one, right? We need

31:58to

32:00see how we can navigate and move away

32:02from the open market collection system

32:05to a strategic way for collecting the

32:07waste, you know? Um, and I see a lot of

32:09examples cities, you know, have been

32:11successful to move away and reduce the

32:14emissions, reduce the waste, and um,

32:17protecting the infrastructure, you know?

32:19I know we have a discussion today about

32:20that goal, but just

32:22um, update, you know? We are not the

32:24only people doing this, but yeah. We can

32:27do something.

32:29Okay?

32:30Uh, so this is my update for this month.

32:32So, um,

32:34Eddie, you did a great job for uh,

32:36summarizing the meeting minutes.

32:37>> I think Lori had a question.

32:39>> Oh, go ahead, Lori.

32:43>> Yeah, um I'm trying not to talk into the

32:45mic too close. Um

32:49There you're right. I I did I lived

32:51through that in 2010.

32:53Um and there was some resistance, but it

32:55was not massive.

32:58Um but I also at about that time also

33:01heard a uh city council member speaking

33:04to a group of middle school boys.

33:06And he said it was James Clendenin,

33:09sorry. Um and he said,

33:12"You know, we have to do what's best for

33:14the city of Wichita."

33:16And some times not everyone likes that,

33:20but we still have to do what's going to

33:22work best for the needs of the city.

33:27And I have never forgotten him saying

33:29that out loud to this group of of young

33:31people.

33:32Um just because there's some resistance,

33:36doesn't mean that the resistance has to

33:38win.

33:40Um if half of the population is

33:42resistant to it,

33:45maybe the other half wins.

33:46>> [snorts]

33:47>> Um

33:48if

33:5020 people are resistant out of what?

33:54500,000 in the metro area, that's

33:57minuscule number. But that's what

33:59happened in 2010.

34:01It was just 20 people, is all.

34:03So,

34:05>> [snorts]

34:05>> the resistance is not really

34:09a barrier

34:12compared to any of the other cities that

34:13have ever done this.

34:15Resistance is going to always be there,

34:16but it doesn't have to be

34:18that it have to be the decision-making

34:21part of what the city council does.

34:25>> I agree with you, Lori, and this why is

34:27our main job here

34:29to frame this work correctly.

34:31And we have to highlight all the

34:32positive points behind why we need to

34:35move away from the open market.

34:38And then I believe from 2010 till 2026,

34:43uh we did see a lot of successful cities

34:46to move away from open market to have a

34:48strategic zones for collections of

34:51the waste. So,

34:52so as I mentioned, this will be like

34:54ongoing goal.

34:55We started this one this year and um we

34:58need to make sure before we convey

34:59something to the city, we have very very

35:01solid framework. We need to get back to

35:042010 and

35:06evaluate all the resistance at that time

35:09and how we can

35:10take care of that in the our proposal.

35:13And also what is the positive points

35:14behind that. So, this is our main job,

35:16you know.

35:17Um yeah.

35:19Any other questions or feedback?

35:22>> Yeah, and and when you share this from

35:24the Zero Waste LA,

35:26so I have a couple of thoughts on that.

35:28Thanks for pulling up the details in the

35:30graphic. I would I would be curious to

35:31know what's the time frame in which

35:35the initial like catalyst for change

35:37occurred and how long did it take to

35:39kind of roll out and execute. LA is a

35:41huge, you know, huge metropolis.

35:44Um and I'm also curious cuz this was

35:46something that was brought up by I don't

35:47think you were able to attend the

35:48September I mean the August meeting, but

35:51when you were leading Russell, this

35:52concept that we talked about at length

35:54about the affordability factor. And I

35:57think while emissions and road damage

36:00and road use may have may be value

36:04points for some,

36:06noise reduction for sure I think would

36:08be an elevated point

36:09and traffic annoyance. But the really I

36:11think the highest thing that was we all

36:13talked about would resonate with people

36:15here is the affordability factor and

36:17this idea of the unfairness, the lack of

36:18equanimity where somebody's paying 110,

36:21a quarter, and somebody's paying 83, and

36:24someone's paying 65, right? For the same

36:27service.