2026-08-10 - Town Council
Summary
Built from the approved minutes first, then the auto-generated video captions for added detail. Caption names and numbers may be misheard; the minutes are the official record.
Official minutes
- Regular meeting at 7:00 PM; Ring was excused (Horn moved, Woodcock seconded, unanimous). The manager recognized Hill, public works director and assistant fire chief, for the "Beyond The Call" award received July 30. One item was added to the agenda (the railroad grant budget amendment) by unanimous vote.
- Public comment: a resident on the manager's staff report; a mayoral candidate said she is running for mayor and referred to the community's "No Data Center" stance; a resident on policing on Academy Street.
- Consent agenda: the July 13 minutes approved unanimously.
- Fire Department mission statement, "Built on P.R.I.D.E.": moved by Horn, seconded by Woodcock, unanimous. See Fire Department Mission Statement.
- Ordinance 913, a $150,000 grant revenue and expense amendment for the NC Railroad Economic Development Grant (OBE Warehousing, Inc. project): moved by Lane, seconded by Horn, unanimous. See NC Railroad Grant Budget Amendment.
- Academy Street: Collins said the street is too small for its traffic; speed bumps and a speed study are NCDOT decisions and a study needs a council request. See Academy Street Speeding and Resurfacing.
- Public works update on NCDOT projects and the Broad Street Pedestrian Project funding approval of July 16. See Broad Street Pedestrian Project and State Road Projects.
- Public Information Officer Combs reported on Splash Day (about 400 attendees) and National Night Out. See Town Events Program.
- At the mayor's request the manager addressed information in his report about statements attributed to the resident. See Public Trust and Transparency.
- Adjourned at 8:04 PM.
Added detail from the video captions
- Captions begin before the call to order at 7:01 p.m.; Councilwoman Anita K. Ring was on vacation and the council voted unanimously to excuse her absence.
- Announcements: the mayor's town hall the next Monday at 6:30, town offices closed September 7 for Labor Day, a business association 5K and Trunk or Treat on October 24, and a Jaycees interest meeting for ages 18 to 40 on August 18.
- Public Works Director and Deputy Fire Chief Jason Hill was recognized with a county sheriff's public service award, presented July 30 at Forsyth Tech, on a nomination from Fire Chief Fire Chief Smith praising his leadership during the fire chief transition and his after-hours service.
- The agenda was amended to add a budget amendment, and the council approved the amended agenda. Consent items were approved with a correction to a resident's name spelling in the July minutes.
- Public comment: one resident criticized the town manager and the handling of old fire station awnings before demolition; a second thanked those who worked against the data center proposal; a third raised speeding and heavy traffic on Academy Street, its resurfacing and the start date of the school year. The mayor announced he is running for mayor and challenged all candidates to a forum or debate.
- The events coordinator recapped the July 31 Splash Day and foam party (3 to 400 attendees, about 400 ice treats, 97 free backpacks from a community group) and National Night Out on August 4 at Covington Park, held under the shelter after a rain shower.
- The council unanimously adopted a Fire Department mission statement built on the values of professionalism, respect, integrity, dedication and excellence, developed by the department's leadership with a firefighter's coursework project.
- The council unanimously approved a time-sensitive budget amendment raising grant revenue and expenditure by $150,000 each for a North Carolina Railroad economic development grant passed through the town to a warehousing company. The funds arrived the previous Friday, but the budget ordinance has no rollover provision; there is no net effect on the general fund or fund balance.
- A sheriff's corporal answered the Academy Street speeding concerns: citations are the only enforcement tool, the road is narrow for traffic from two large developments, and a second night deputy would effectively need two added officers. Staff said the state transportation department maintains the road, the town limit ends about 300 feet past Simmons Road, a traffic study would need a council request, and the town already won a 25 mph limit inside town limits.
- Town manager Homer Dearmin reported: the audit is on track with fieldwork expected in early September; $252,000 in federal reimbursement arrived July 14 for new firefighter breathing apparatus, with another application planned; draft purchasing card and cash management policies are due in September; a five-year review of budget amendments found most dollars were one-time capital and grant items; geotechnical boring at Covington Park this week for the park grant; a certificate of deposit renewed at 3.65%; town staff are helping a neighboring town after an August 1 flood; the county will present the Rural Hall Area Plan update in September. A handout showed investment earnings of about $79,700 for fiscal years 2015 to 2022 versus about $792,500 since January 2023, including roughly $189,500 on fire station grant proceeds held before spending.
- Mr. Hill updated road projects: the US 65 project is about a year into two years and slightly ahead; the Forum Parkway connector has girders across the rail line with about two years left; on the Glade Street to Broad Street project the state wants to widen a railroad bridge that cannot easily be widened, and the town is seeking funding or an answer on replacement timing; the Broad Street pedestrian project funding was approved at the regional committees on July 16, with design in 2027, programming in fiscal year 2028 and construction possible in 2030 lasting about six months.
- At the mayor's request, the manager answered the awnings comments by reading a written statement: the awnings were weathered, were removed as part of the demolition contract, and the town says no formal offer to buy them was received. The statement is attached to his written report.
- The meeting adjourned.
Issues discussed
- Town Budget and Fund Balance
- Covington Memorial Park Improvements
- Public Trust and Transparency
- Town Events Program
- November 2026 Municipal Election
- Fire Department Mission Statement
- Academy Street Speeding and Resurfacing
- Broad Street Pedestrian Project and State Road Projects
Further issues from the minutes
Sources
- Approved minutes: https://www.ruralhall.com/api/blob/gb?gb=CfDJ8FrqSqLo8IxNr9uPO3mLntL3tQcb48pezynOkfxelReUEK4tkk8EqE7XI4i6TRV5jrWRVvOfvMyWTnE1B-lMUeZm6ixgj1qI92C0x_D-Q7COIFNbw-CZz4AuShZiMIypb-f1H8t_yaje3KqVtlk7TZCgTiLeUe2zJ3UFYttJjGvCKX0m4zqJeBM5qcCJbW3iOJL5rsMFxeK0CO4LyvLvfXzscIDwIYFJipw44CX0HJLxarGBDM7kk6GKSTpMVJDNGyX3Kgnk4rBOXoGb__-TxEKGwui0kYMAJ6n6WBVUDfBK
- Video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8PzCqLmKL1w
Video
Transcript
These are auto-generated captions; names and numbers may be misheard.
Transcript
00:00Wait,
00:27>> grant money from the state.
00:30drawing it down from an investment
00:31account. check.
00:33>> Hello.
00:36[laughter]
00:37>> Got so
00:46award.
00:50>> Come on now.
00:58>> Goldbladed.
01:08He was one of my best friends and
01:12>> they were my best friends.
01:14>> And you know what?
01:16I was talking I was used to
01:21>> and I was talking to one
01:24>> and I said
01:27I said what is your name? She said, "I
01:31don't
01:34come."
01:36She said,
01:40"I am not
01:46going to
01:50husband.
01:58Oh my
02:04>> god.
02:32Nice to meet you, K. You too. You too.
02:36>> Small world, isn't it?
03:00If I was like a public servant, I would
03:02like to respond.
03:05Oh yeah.
03:34>> That's
04:01I ran into Philip at Sam's Club Friday.
04:24Like I wish I had
04:40>> any idea what happened to the former
04:43Have you heard anything about
04:53the year?
04:55Everybody seemed to
05:00be a teacher or principal today.
05:24Good to see you.
05:49I don't know.
06:06and stuff like
06:11that.
06:16>> No, I gave you the correct
06:37Oh, really?
06:40>> I got it. I went to the doctor.
06:49And after that,
07:06That's what I
07:18down here.
07:32app.
07:52I'll never be able to thank you enough
07:54for what you
07:59I was trying to show you
08:02[clears throat]
08:04well.
08:35Call this meeting
08:37town council to order at 701.
08:44Ask our town clerk to lead us in the
08:46pledge of allegiance. and remain
08:48standing for a moment of silence.
08:54>> I aliance to the flag of the United
08:57States of America and to the republic
09:00for which it stands. One nation under
09:03God, indivisible, with liberty and
09:06justice for all.
09:23Okay,
09:24you'll be seated.
09:28We'll go over our announcements first. U
09:33our August 2026 yard of the month um
09:37goes to Taylor Holder at 612 Running
09:42Brook Lane. Not here.
09:45Uh we had a um flag purchased um by the
09:50Somerdale Court neighborhood in memory
09:52of Bud and Linda Acres.
09:57Also, starting back next Monday evening
10:00at 6:30, I will have the mayor's town
10:02hall meeting.
10:05It'll be here in the council chambers.
10:10Town offices will be closed on September
10:12the 7th for Labor Day observance.
10:16And the Rule Hall Area Business
10:18Association 5K race is October the 24th
10:22and registration is open now.
10:26Ro Hall trunk or treat is going to be on
10:29uh October the 24th. Um that's at the
10:33park, correct?
10:36>> More information later. Okay. And the
10:39real hall uh uh for Broad Street will be
10:42on the 31st.
10:45Also, one other uh announcement I'd like
10:49to make is also next Tuesday evening,
10:52August 18th at 6:30 p.m. here in the
10:56chambers, we will be having an uh or
10:59they will be having uh the Royal Hall
11:01JC's will u uh have an interest meeting
11:05and it will be here in the chambers at
11:076:30. So, if you know of anyone between
11:10the ages of 18 and 40, that will be a
11:13good civic organization to get involved
11:16with. Uh, the young leaders here in
11:18Rural Hall.
11:24Then we have a big recognition. I'm
11:26probably going to turn this over to town
11:27manager Dearman U to recognize this
11:32beyond the call.
11:34>> Thank you, mayor. Thank you, council. um
11:36really excited and and proud this
11:38evening to share uh that one of our own
11:40has been recognized for going beyond the
11:43call and his service to our community
11:45and that is our public works director
11:46and deputy fire chief Jason Hill. Um
11:49Sheriff Bobby Kimbro established this
11:51award a few years ago to recognize folks
11:54who um do extraordinary things in public
11:57service and Jason is certainly one of
11:59those individuals. He was nominated by
12:01our fire chief, Zach Smith, and I'd like
12:03to take just a moment to share that
12:04nomination uh with everyone. It is my
12:08honor and privilege to write this letter
12:09of recommendation for Jason Hill. Jason
12:12currently serves as the public works
12:13director for the town of Rural Hall and
12:15also as deputy chief of the Rural Hall
12:17Fire Department. In both roles, Jason
12:20consistently demonstrates exceptional
12:22leadership, dedication, and an
12:24unwavering commitment to serving our
12:26community. Jason goes above and beyond
12:28in every aspect of his work. As public
12:31works director, he effectively manages
12:33and leads the public works department,
12:34ensuring the town's infrastructure,
12:36services, and daily operations are
12:38maintained at the highest standard. His
12:40attention to detail, work ethic, and
12:42commitment to quality service are
12:44evident in everything that he does. In
12:46addition to his demanding
12:48responsibilities in public works, Jason
12:50plays a critical leadership role with
12:51the within the Royal Hall Fire
12:53Department. During periods of transition
12:55and in the absence of a fire chief,
12:57Jason has been instrumental in
12:59maintaining continuity of operations and
13:01ensuring the department remained
13:02effective and professional. He provided
13:05valuable support and guidance to the
13:06interim chief and continues to be a
13:08trusted and dependable leader alongside
13:10the current fire chief. Jason's
13:12dedication to public service extends far
13:15beyond normal working hours. He
13:16regularly responds to calls after hours,
13:18during nights, and on weekends. Always
13:21willing to step in wherever needed. His
13:23willingness to serve and his ability to
13:25lead by example have earned him the
13:27respect of his peers, subordinates, and
13:29the citizens he serves. He is also
13:31committed to professional growth and
13:33excellence. Jason frequently attends
13:35training opportunities to enhance his
13:36knowledge and skills and demonstrates
13:39professionalism in all aspects of the
13:41fire service and municipal operations.
13:43His leadership, integrity, and
13:45commitment to excellence make him an
13:46invaluable asset to both the town of Rur
13:48Hall and the Rural Hall Fire Department.
13:50Simply put, our department and the
13:52citizens of Rural Hall are better
13:53because of Jason Hill and his dedication
13:56to serving the public. I couldn't agree
13:59more with that statement. I'm very proud
14:00to see Jason recognized. He was
14:02presented this award formally at a
14:04ceremony on July 30th at Forsight Tech
14:07and we are all very proud of his
14:09leadership and recognition. Jason,
14:11congratulations and thank you.
14:13[applause]
14:25Congratulations,
14:37[applause]
14:40Jason.
14:41>> Congratulations.
14:45>> Okay, moving right along. Uh, council,
14:48you've had an opportunity to look over
14:50your agenda. If there's any additions,
14:53corrections, or anything, would be a
14:56good time to Mayor. I'd like to ask the
14:58council to add one item to tonight's
15:00agenda, and that is a budget amendment
15:02to the current fiscal year budget, and
15:05I'll be glad to explain more about that
15:06shortly.
15:13Mayor, I'll make amen
15:15[clears throat and cough]
15:16I'll make a motion to add amendment
15:18ordinance 913 to the agenda.
15:23Okay, we have a motion. Second
15:27motion made by Mayor Pro Tim Horn,
15:29second
15:31by Councilman Lane. Any questions or
15:35concerns? [snorts]
15:36All right. All those in favor of the
15:38budget as um stated with the amendment
15:42uh added on.
15:44>> I
15:45>> I
15:47sorry the agenda
15:50>> I think the motion should reflect it's
15:52approving the agenda. I I heard you say
15:54approve the budget as amended, but it's
15:55approve approving the agenda as amended.
15:58Yes, sir. Thank you.
16:00>> As and it's a budget amendment that
16:02we're going to Okay. All right. Trying
16:06to think of three things at one time
16:08here. All right.
16:10Okay. Do I need to restate that?
16:12>> That's right.
16:14>> Okay. It's great. All right.
16:16[clears throat]
16:19All right.
16:25Moving right along is our public comment
16:28period. Um,
16:31so I will turn this over to Lynette, our
16:34town clerk.
16:36Call
16:39>> June Cohen
16:56June Cohen, 430 College Street.
17:00I am here in regard to town manager
17:04Homer Durman's comments about me in his
17:07August 3rd, 2026 report as presented to
17:12you on August the 10th, 2026.
17:16I believe town manager Homer Dear is a
17:20psychopath and has been all his life. I
17:24know he is a liar, not ethical, and has
17:27no integrity and is not honest. I
17:31believe his behavior is a reason he was
17:34fired from the town manager position in
17:38King on May the 6, 2022.
17:42I believe he has been a bully, connivor,
17:45denomin.
17:49I believe he thinks he should control
17:52everything and everyone in this town,
17:55even you. This report is full of lies.
17:59He believes you are stupid and cannot
18:02see what he is stating in this report.
18:06Read it. See how it contradicts himself.
18:10You know, I requested from Jason Hill,
18:14public works director, if I could
18:17purchase the awnings on the old fire
18:20department before the building was
18:22demolished. I also contacted Christopher
18:26Var about buying the awnings. When the
18:30awnings disappeared August the 27th, Mr.
18:34Velar told me someone at the town had
18:38taken them. I asked each one of you if
18:41you knew where the awnings were and all
18:44of you said you did not know. In his
18:48report, town manager Homer Dearman
18:52states June Coin never made a [snorts]
18:55formal request to buy the ownings. He
18:58means I never asked him. [snorts] I
19:01could not speak nor ask this town
19:04manager anything because he had called
19:07me crazy and out of my mind at the March
19:113rd, 2025 council meeting. I gave each
19:15of you a copy of this statement and you
19:18did nothing. [snorts] There is no town
19:20resolution or law that states a formal
19:24request must be made
19:27[clears throat]
19:29to purchase surplus property from the
19:32town of Royal Hall. This is some of
19:34Homer Dearman's bull. Read it. I repeat,
19:39I believe town manager Homer Dear is a
19:42psychopath. He should be terminated.
19:46>> [snorts]
19:46>> I believe he is dangerous to me and the
19:49citizens of this town. The ownings are
19:53gone, crushed for spite. I still own
19:56eight buildings in downtown rural hall.
19:59I believe we have a psychopath for town
20:02manager. [snorts] Not anyone on this
20:06council knew he was placing ads in the
20:09Garden Spot newsletter. How much was he
20:12paid to do these ads? Thank you for your
20:15service.
20:24Susie Gordon.
20:33My [snorts] name is Susan Hawks Gordon.
20:35I live at 7430 Broad Street. I would
20:38like to thank everyone who worked on the
20:41no data center.
20:43We do not want to leave anyone out. A
20:45big thank you to all. Your hard work was
20:48greatly appreciated. We all came
20:51together to work for our rural hall and
20:54what accomplishment we had. In November,
20:56I would appreciate your vote for mayor.
20:59Thank you,
21:01[snorts]
21:08>> Dan Barnaby.
21:15Dan Bernabby. Dan Bernabby, 438 Academy
21:18Street. Um, I've talked to this council
21:22on numerous times now about policing of
21:26Academy Street. Every time I'm out in my
21:29front yard watering, doing
21:31[clears throat] yard work or whatever,
21:33and I witness the traffic going by, I
21:36almost see near [clears throat]
21:37accidents because of speeding,
21:40you know, pretty much on a regular
21:42basis.
21:44And it's it's like an accident waiting
21:46to happen, literally.
21:48So, I'm I'm curious as to who decides or
21:53what criteria is used
21:56to go down to one deputy at night time
22:01because the majority of speeding, the
22:04worst cases
22:05seems to be late afternoon, early
22:07evening. And I've talked at length with
22:10um Captain Joiner
22:13of the Sheriff's Department uh a few
22:15phone calls and he Lately, I've
22:18interfaced with Corporal Collins about
22:20the issue
22:22and um it just
22:25not only that policing, but what's the
22:27long-term plan for resurfacing that
22:30street? I mean, it's very heavy traffic
22:34and it's like it was chip sealed what,
22:37three about four years ago and it's all
22:40starting to become undulated, you know,
22:43really uns. But if you make that street
22:46smoother, speeding's going to go up.
22:50It's like a necessary evil almost. So,
22:54I'm curious as to what the long-term
22:56plan is for resurfacing Academy Street.
23:00And I know you guys don't run the cool
23:02uh school system, but um
23:06August 10th seems to be kind of early,
23:09doesn't it?
23:12>> Seems to be for me for sure. [laughter]
23:14Hey, I'd like to know how that decision
23:16was made. I I know I'm not trying to
23:20treat it as a joking matter. Kids
23:22education is very important. I get it.
23:25That will never change. Um but it just
23:29seems kind of early. And with that, you
23:31have extra operating costs. And if
23:34somebody is looking at like conserving
23:38or make stretching every tax dollar,
23:42um, do we really need to have the school
23:45year start so early? I mean, I got
23:50school at least two maybe three school
23:52buses. I know this is a county issue. I
23:55get it. But there are two three school
23:58buses running up and down Academy
24:00Street. They're part of the speeding
24:02problem sometimes. Sometimes they go up
24:05to Foster and they're on two wheels
24:09taking a turn. I'm not exaggerating.
24:14So, um, you know, and most of the time
24:17those school buses, they're running the
24:19same route, but they're always empty or
24:22near empty. Maybe one or two kids on
24:25them. The parents don't seem to want to
24:27trust putting their kids on the school
24:29buses. So then I scratch my head and I
24:32say, "Where's your tax dollars going to,
24:36Dan?" You know, I'm paying $1,000 every
24:40year to you guys and twice that to the
24:43county.
24:44And I'm asking myself, what am I getting
24:46in return?
24:49Thank you for listening tonight.
24:52>> Thank you.
25:18>> [clears throat]
25:22>> Is that it? Okay. [clears throat]
25:30All right, I'm going to move right into
25:33my comments and I'm going to be brief
25:35because
25:36um I'm going to ask the unless the
25:39council um objects, I'm going to ask
25:42Corporal Collins to come up under new
25:45business um to address a couple of the
25:49speeding or what what we're doing
25:52because this has been talked about
25:55numerous times.
25:57Is anybody any objection on this? Okay.
26:02He is still back there, right?
26:03>> Yeah, he's there for now.
26:05>> He's kind of back there now.
26:06>> His head is back there. Okay.
26:10All right. Uh,
26:16one thing I I want to promote again, uh,
26:19under my comments is the mayor's town
26:21hall meeting. Um it is it is an open
26:24meeting. There will be no agenda. Um
26:29so uh hopefully we're going to get back
26:31to uh talking about uh things that
26:34actually are going on inside the town uh
26:37which was speeding and roads and that
26:40kind of stuff. So that will be next
26:42Monday.
26:44Um
26:47and I notice in the public comments it
26:49always keeps coming up about elections.
26:51I hate to talk politics, but I am
26:54running for mayor also. So, if since you
26:58want to uh bring that up, we will start
27:01discussing that. I would challenge I
27:04would like to challenge all candidates
27:06to a candidate forum or preferably a
27:09debate. Uh so, I know one is here. uh
27:13would like uh we will be reaching out
27:15for the other ones and hopefully have
27:18that uh maybe two or three of them
27:20before election.
27:22With that, my comments are done. I would
27:24like to pass it over to any of the other
27:27council if you've got anything you'd
27:29like to say.
27:33Okay, before we move in uh
27:36on with our agenda, uh uh Councilwoman
27:40Ring is on vacation. I'd like to uh uh
27:44entertain a motion to accept her being
27:47absent as an excused absence.
27:51>> I'll make a motion to [clears throat]
27:53accept or as an excused absence since
27:55she's on vacation.
27:56>> Okay, we have a motion from Mayor Proam
28:00Horn.
28:01>> A second
28:02>> and second by Councilman Woodcock.
28:05Any discussion? Seeing none, all those
28:08in favor? I
28:09>> Okay, unanimous.
28:12>> Right. Moving right along. Uh if you've
28:14had an opportunity to look over the
28:16minutes um um under our consent agenda,
28:20if there's any corrections or any any
28:23changes, now's the time.
28:31Mayor, I note there is one um
28:33misspelling in the minutes, and that is
28:35Miss Cohen's name. Uh, it's
28:37inadvertently spelled with an H instead
28:39of a K. So, we do need to correct that
28:41in the minutes under public comment from
28:42the July council meeting.
28:45>> Oh, okay. Did not catch that until after
28:48publication in June. I apologize.
28:52>> Okay.
28:54All right. Seeing that, um, I'd
28:57entertain a motion to accept the agenda
28:59with the typo correction.
29:02>> I'll make a motion to accept the agenda
29:04with a typo correction.
29:05>> All right. Second [clears throat]
29:07>> motion by Mayor Pro Tim Horn, second by
29:11Councilman Lane. Any further discussion?
29:14Seeing none, all those in favor?
29:16>> I
29:16>> I
29:17>> Okay,
29:22under our new business, uh the recap of
29:24Splash Day and National Night Out, um
29:27our public information officer and
29:30events coordinator, Whitney Combmes.
29:33>> Thank you, Mayor. Um just wanted to give
29:35a recap and show a little slideshow of a
29:37couple events that we have had recently.
29:39So the summer splash and foam party on
29:41July 31st. Um we had perfect weather. It
29:44was sunny and warm. Um and it was a
29:46great success. We had 3 to 400 in
29:49attendance. Um our staff gave out around
29:51400 ice creams and ice pops. Uh the rule
29:55rule lifespan group was there giving out
29:58free backpacks. Um and I spoke with them
30:00today. said they gave out 97 free
30:03backpacks. Um, and the Royal Hall
30:05National Women of Achievement and St.
30:07James Church were also in attendance to
30:09help with giving out school supplies.
30:11Um, just a thank you to the town staff,
30:14mayor and town council as well as our
30:16firefighters for making this such a
30:18great community event. Um, this was my
30:20first splash day and just looking out on
30:22that day. Um, lots of smiling faces,
30:26lots of kids having fun. Um and so it
30:29was just a really nice event uh to see
30:31everybody come out and enjoy a summer
30:33day. Um on August 4th we had National
30:36Night Out. Um it started with a heavy
30:39rain shower. Um but we still had a good
30:41turnout. Um we were at Cington Park
30:43under the shelter. Um the Forcy County
30:45Sheriff's Office, Insight Human
30:47Services, and Woodman Life were set up
30:49giving out information about their
30:51services and any goodies that they may
30:53have had. Um, we were able to share a
30:56hot dog meal with our mayor and town
30:58council, town staff, local law
31:00enforcement, firefighters, and our rural
31:02hall neighbors. Sheriff Bobby Kimbro
31:04stopped by and spoke, as well as Chief
31:06Deputy Henry Gray. And this event is
31:09always a great opportunity to come out
31:10and meet your neighbors as well as the
31:12people that serve the community. Um,
31:14again, this was my first national night
31:16out and it this event felt like the
31:18epitome of a community event um with
31:21neighbors, kids, and public figures just
31:24chatting, having a good time. So, thank
31:26you to everyone that came out. And we'll
31:28start with a slideshow.
31:50Let
32:08me turn.
32:45Thank you.
32:47>> Thank you, Whitney.
32:56Turn the next item back over to Town
32:59Manager Dearman. Uh, adoption of fire
33:02department mission statement. That's on
33:04our attachment two. Mayor, if it's all
33:07right, I'd turn this one over to Deputy
33:08Chief Hill. Uh Chief Smith is not with
33:11us tonight. He is at a training just a
33:13couple of blocks over getting his EMS
33:15certification renewed. He may drop in if
33:18he's able to by the end of the meeting,
33:20but he asked Chief Hill to cover this uh
33:22agenda item.
33:24>> Thank you, manager, mayor. Um going back
33:28um just for a little background of um
33:30how this came to be. Um, in Chief
33:32Faulk's time here, um, the leadership
33:35team in the fire department was able to
33:37sit in a training with Chief Alderman,
33:39Chief of Kernel Fire Department, um, and
33:42take advantage of what they do as Cape
33:45Lookout Leadership Solutions. U, between
33:48the two, I don't know how many years of
33:50experience and knowledge they have, but
33:51it it's it's a bunch. It's u it's very
33:55um helpful to our leadership team. Uh
33:59Chief Faulk has come in, hit the ground
34:01running, and um
34:03he's done a lot in his short time here.
34:06Um his plate has definitely been full.
34:08Um and this is one of the things that u
34:11firefighter Goulsby and Chief Smith uh
34:13spearheaded. Um firefighter Goulby is
34:17currently working on a degree in fire
34:18protection technology. Um this is one of
34:21his projects um to develop a mission
34:24statement because essentially we didn't
34:26have a mission statement. um that was up
34:29to date. Um so this is what's been
34:31developed and so I don't take anything
34:33away from Chief Smith and Firefar
34:35Goulby. I'm going to read um of some of
34:38this um in attachment two. The Rule Hall
34:42Fire Department is committed to
34:43providing professional, dependable, and
34:45compassionate service to the citizens
34:47and visitors of Rule Hall. A formally
34:49adopted mission statement will clearly
34:51define the department's purpose,
34:52establish the values that guide its
34:54members, and communicate the standard of
34:57service expected by the town and its
34:59community. The proposed mission
35:01statement is built on the values of
35:03pride. P R I D that stands for
35:08professionalism, respect, integrity,
35:10dedication, and excellence. These values
35:13provide a consistent foundation for de
35:16departmental leadership, training, oper
35:18operations, decision making, and public
35:21service. They also reinforce the
35:23department's commitment to teamwork,
35:25courage, compassion, readiness, and
35:27honorable service. And some of those are
35:29found in our logo on the sign that's on
35:31in on the front of the new building.
35:34Um the mission statement built on PR
35:38is as follows. Our mission is to protect
35:42life, property, and the environment with
35:45professionalism, respect, integrity,
35:48dedication, and excellence. With pride,
35:50we commit to serving our community with
35:52courage and compassion, working together
35:54as one team, and upholding the highest
35:56standards of the fire service. We stand
35:59ready at all times to respond, support,
36:01and lead with honor. And adoption of
36:04this mission, if you decide to adopt it,
36:07um will allow the town to one, establish
36:09a clear and unified purpose for the Rule
36:11Hall Fire Department, provide guiding
36:13values for leadership, training,
36:15operations, and member conduct, and
36:18lastly, communicate the department's
36:20commitment to professional and honorable
36:22service. And at this time, staff is
36:24recommending that the council adopt the
36:26proposed Rule Hall Fire Department
36:28mission statement as presented built on
36:31PR ID Pride as the official mission
36:34statement of the department.
36:39Okay. [clears throat] Thank you, Jason.
36:42Uh, any questions to Jason?
36:46Seeing none, I would entertain a motion
36:48to adopt the fire department mission
36:51statement.
36:53I'll make a motion.
36:54>> Motion by Mayor Pro Tim Horn.
36:58>> I'll second.
36:59>> Second by Councilman Woodcock. Any
37:02further discussion? Seeing none, all
37:05those in favor?
37:06>> I I
37:09Okay,
37:15next item. I'll turn back over to Town
37:18Manager Dearman for the U
37:21budget amendment.
37:23>> Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council. As
37:26you guys know, I I don't like to get
37:27these items in front of you last minute,
37:29but this one is timesensitive. Um, it
37:32did come up uh over the weekend, and
37:35that is a budget amendment concerning
37:36the North Carolina Railroad Invest
37:38project. you adopted a budget amendment
37:41to um take care of the town's
37:43responsibilities in that grant back at
37:45the end of fiscal year 2425.
37:49However, there was turnover through the
37:50North Carolina Railroad office and then
37:54the um OBBE manufacturing um had some
37:57hiccups getting some of their things
37:58together, but all of the paperwork was
38:01completed last week and on Friday
38:03$150,000
38:05was deposited in our account that is now
38:08owed to OBBE Manufacturing. However, we
38:12owe it, but we don't have the legal
38:13means to pay it because we do not have a
38:15rollover provision in our budget
38:17ordinance. So, even though you adopted
38:18this amendment and agreed to this U
38:21proposal two years ago, we need to amend
38:24the current year budget to reflect
38:26$150,000 in revenue and $150,000
38:30in expenditure. Um, this is associated
38:33with the North Carolina Railroad
38:35Economic Development Grant awarded to
38:37OBBE Warehousing Incorporated. Funding
38:39was originally recognized through that
38:412425 budget amendment, but the request
38:44was not submitted until July of this
38:45year after the close of the fiscal year
38:48in which funding had originally been
38:49budgeted. Because that prior budget
38:51authority does not carry forward, this
38:53amendment is necessary to properly
38:55recognize both the revenue and
38:56expenditures. This would increase both
38:59revenues and expenditures by 150,000,
39:01resulting in zero net impact on the
39:04town's general fund or fund balance. The
39:07town is serving as the conduit for the
39:08economic development grant funds with
39:10the revenue received for the project
39:12offset by the corresponding payment to
39:14OBBE Warehousing Incorporated. Staff's
39:17recommendation at this time is to
39:18approve the budget amendment increasing
39:20the grant revenues by $150,000
39:23and grant expenditures by $150,000 to
39:26provide the necessary budgetary
39:28authority to receive and disperse the
39:30North Carolina Railroad Economic
39:32Development Grant funds to OBBE
39:34Warehousing Incorporated. Um, I have
39:37attached the budget amendment there and
39:39also provided for your reference a copy
39:41of the budget amendment that was adopted
39:43for the 202425
39:46budget ordinance back in June of 2025.
39:50Be glad to answer any questions that you
39:52may have.
39:54Does anyone have any questions?
39:59Okay.
40:01I'd entertain a motion to approve a
40:03budget amendment increasing
40:052026 through 27 grant revenues by
40:09150,000 and grant uh expenditures by
40:13150,000.
40:15>> Mayor, I'll make that motion to approve
40:17the budget amendment.
40:18>> Motion by Councilman Lane.
40:21>> I'll second.
40:22>> Second by Mayor Pro Tim Horn. Uh any
40:26further discussion? Seeing none, all
40:28those in favor? I
40:29>> I
40:31>> Okay,
40:33and that moves us right down to I would
40:35like to call up Corporal Collins. Uh I
40:38know you were sitting in and and we've
40:41addressed a lot of this before, but I
40:44give us an update on our nighttime and
40:49>> how you your night time. You still got
40:52one. Um and me and Dan, like Dan said,
40:55we and him's talked. Uh me and the
40:56captain's talked, he's talked to the
40:58captain. And I think maybe my last
41:01conversation with Dan, maybe the one
41:03before that, you know, you can write
41:04them people tickets. If they're fine
41:06with speeding and paying that fine, then
41:08that's that's up to them. You know,
41:09there's nothing I can do that's going to
41:11make them stop other than write them
41:13tickets. If they want to keep doing it,
41:14keep getting tickets, there's no way to
41:17stop that. Um and I've agreed with Dan
41:20that road is too small for the traffic
41:22that comes up and down it. That's two
41:24large developments back in there and I
41:26know it's nothing that the town can do
41:27about it. I don't know. Jason, do you
41:30know if the county will do or DOT will
41:32do a study on traffic amount on that
41:35road?
41:36>> They might if we request it. That needs
41:38to come from uh from the council.
41:41>> Yeah,
41:43>> that might be something to look into
41:44because that is a narrow road for that
41:46traffic and you meet
41:48>> car on there, you've got to be almost
41:50off in the grass. That's a stupid
41:52question because anybody put speed bumps
41:54or something on that road. That's just
41:55[laughter]
41:56>> That would be a question for DOT. Um
41:58they maintain the road. Um we do plow it
42:01just as courtesy to our citizens in the
42:03winter time, but that is the only thing
42:06um that we do with Academy Street
42:09>> and that would include the paving of it
42:11also, right?
42:12>> Yeah. And it was like Mr. Barby said
42:14three possibly four years ago. I don't
42:16know if that's on a seven-year cycle or
42:18not. I'm trying to think back um the
42:21last time previously to that it may be a
42:25sevenyear cycle. Um, I know going years
42:29back, um, even Mayor Williams, um, Frank
42:33James, Steve Wall, um, they rode down
42:36Academy Street with some staff members
42:38of DOT with Pat Ivy at the time. And
42:42basically, u, they were told that they
42:43weren't concerned about the ride quality
42:46as long as the surface was, um, sealed.
42:48That's their main, uh, priority there.
42:51Um, and it hasn't obviously gone beyond
42:55that. Any
43:01questions?
43:02>> Where does our town limits end at on
43:05Academy
43:06>> Simmons Road?
43:07>> Yeah, just past Simmons Road. Um, I'd
43:09say approximately 300 ft beyond Simmons
43:12Road.
43:12>> So, do we have the authority to ask for
43:14a speed evaluation
43:17just before that since it'd be in our
43:19town or can we go further back and just
43:21say, "Hey, can the county
43:22>> So, we did have the speed limit
43:24lowered." Um
43:26it wasn't an easy task, easy feat. Um it
43:30just prior to Pat Ivy leaving when he
43:32retired. Uh they did agree to lower it
43:35in the town limits to 25. Um we don't
43:39have any control over um you know
43:41outside of town limits where it's 35 and
43:44then they come in to 25. I think it's
43:46difficult to get people to slow down to
43:4825.
43:49>> It is and it's a small gap there. That's
43:5135. So in town you're 30 at 25, you go
43:54to a small little area that's 35 and
43:56then go right back into 25 again.
43:58>> Okay.
43:59>> Um and I don't that we probably could
44:01never convince DOT to change that small
44:04little area 35, but it would help most
44:07likely. Okay. Um if we could do that,
44:09but like I said, it's not in town. It's
44:11out in the county, but it is a very
44:12small area. 100 yards maybe that it's
44:1535. Okay.
44:16>> And then it goes right back to 25 start
44:18developments.
44:19>> Okay. So [clears throat] that might
44:22would help. Um, you know, I I've stayed
44:24late on days and because Dan was saying
44:26that some of the speeding was like
44:28around six o'clock. I've stayed late and
44:29wrote people at 6:00. When I still had
44:31the bike, I was sitting over on it
44:33because it would be harder to see. And I
44:35mean, like I said, we have wrote a ton
44:37of citations over there. And you can
44:40only keep writing them citations really.
44:42I mean, unless DOT is going to get
44:44involved and do something to help with
44:46it. Um, if there was another exit for
44:49that development back there, that would
44:51help, but I know DOT is not going to put
44:53another road in, but
44:57>> thank you.
44:59>> Any other questions?
45:03So, there and and there was a question
45:06that was made about and I probably about
45:08answer this. The reason you don't have
45:10more than one is because we won't give
45:12spend another 150,000 for another
45:15officer. Is that would that be the
45:17answer
45:18>> to to get one? You'd about have to get
45:20two. So it was you wouldn't have one
45:22working some kind of crazy days or hours
45:25and at the same time with that then the
45:28sheriff's office would make you promote
45:30my spot to a sergeant spot because they
45:32only let so many people be under
45:34corporal. Then you're not get promoted
45:35to sergeant before you have more people.
45:38So it
45:39>> I could even quote you what the number
45:41would be. I could get it found out for
45:44you and give it to you, but I couldn't
45:45off top of my head.
45:50Any other questions, too? Okay. Thank
45:53you.
45:54>> Thank you.
45:54>> For the spur of the moment.
45:58All right.
46:03All right. We'll move on to the
46:06department reports. Back to uh town
46:09manager home. Thank you, Mayor Council.
46:12We got uh several items that I'd like to
46:13share with you this evening. Of course,
46:15my written report is in your agenda
46:17packet, so I'll highlight a few of the
46:18more significant activities and
46:20accomplishments
46:21um from over the past month and and
46:23things that I think you will be um glad
46:26to hear about. Much of our work during
46:28July and August, early August, is
46:30centered on financial management and
46:32closing out the previous fiscal year
46:34while implementing the new budget. Staff
46:36has continued responding to audit
46:38requests, completed our annual PAL bill
46:40reporting, monitored revenues and
46:43expenditures, and continued
46:44administering several significant grants
46:46and capital projects. Last week, our
46:48finance staff let me know that we have
46:50submitted most of the requested
46:52information to our auditor. And we
46:54expect them to be on site for fieldwork
46:56here at town hall uh possibly later this
46:59month, but more likely in early
47:00September. But we are on track for a
47:02timely audit this year. One particularly
47:05good piece of financial news occurred on
47:07July 14th when the town received
47:09$252,000
47:11in reimbursement from the Federal
47:13Emergency Management Agency through the
47:15assistance to firefighters grant program
47:17for the new SCBA air packs purchased for
47:20the Royal Hall Fire Department. Those
47:22new air packs were received in late
47:24June. They're now in service and are
47:26being used by our firefighters. This
47:28represents a substantial investment in
47:30firefighter safety and emergency
47:31response capabilities with the
47:33overwhelming majority of the costs
47:34supported by federal grant funding. I
47:37want to recognize Chief Jack Chief Zack
47:39Smith, Deputy Chief Hill, our fire
47:42department personnel, finance staff, and
47:44everyone involved in administering the
47:46grant and getting this equipment into
47:48service. Um, I'll give you a little
47:50preview. We are working on another FEMA
47:52grant application and hope to have that
47:53before you for consideration in the
47:56coming months.
47:58We are also continuing our efforts to
47:59strengthen the town's internal financial
48:01controls and administrative practices.
48:03During this period, I drafted new
48:05purchasing card and cash management
48:07policies. Both of those documents are
48:10being circulated among our appropriate
48:11staff members and professional
48:13adviserss, including our auditors for
48:15review and comment. Following that
48:17review, I anticipate bringing both of
48:19those policies to the town council for
48:21consideration in September. These
48:23policies are another step in formalizing
48:25sound financial practices and ensuring
48:27that the town's procedures continue to
48:28meet current standards for
48:30accountability, transparency, and
48:33protection of public funds.
48:35As outlined in the written report, we
48:37also completed several substantial
48:39public records requests over the last
48:41month. One of those was a request
48:43involving all budget amendments adopted
48:45over the previous five years. Reviewing
48:48those records provided an opportunity to
48:50put those amendments into context, and I
48:52hope that you'll read that in the
48:53report. The overwhelming majority of
48:55amended dollars were associated with
48:57one-time capital investments, grants,
48:59and major projects, particularly our new
49:01fire station, and improvements at
49:03Covington Park rather than increases in
49:06recurring operating expenses. I've in
49:09I've included that analysis in the
49:11written report because I think it is
49:13important that you as the council and
49:14the public have a clear understanding of
49:17how the municipal budget amendment
49:18process works.
49:21In response to questions raised during
49:23our most recent council meeting and
49:24prior to that regarding the former fire
49:26to station awnings, I prepared a written
49:28statement documenting the facts
49:30surrounding that demolition project.
49:32Rather than recapitulate all that and
49:34revisit those details tonight, I've
49:36included the statement as an attachment
49:38to my report so that it becomes part of
49:39the public record and is available to
49:42anyone who wishes to review it. Work
49:45also continues on the Covington Park
49:47improvement project in coordination with
49:49Withers Ravenel and the North Carolina
49:51Parks and Recreation Trust Fund. We
49:53continue working through design, grant
49:55administration, compliance requirements,
49:57and the steps necessary to move this
49:59significant recreational investment
50:01forward.
50:02Um, this week geotechnical engineers
50:05will be on site at Covington Park.
50:07They'll be drilling a couple of small
50:08diameter holes uh with a boring rig
50:11attached to an ATV. So, if you see them
50:13down there at Covington Park this week,
50:15uh they are taking care of all of the
50:16geotechnical requirements for that
50:18grant. We also continued the work of
50:20administering the part of economic
50:22development grants and partnering with
50:24regional and state agencies on projects
50:26affecting our town. I've asked Jason
50:28Hill in a few moments to update you on
50:30the transportation project that we
50:32discussed a few months ago. Thanks to
50:34Jason's efforts and those of Councilman
50:36Lane and Councilwoman Ring, we will soon
50:38have more grant funds coming to us to
50:41help beautify Rural Hall and enhance
50:42what most consider to be the main
50:45intersection in our town. We continue to
50:48look for opportunities to make town
50:49funds work harder for our taxpayers.
50:52During July, we renewed one of the town
50:54certifi certificates of deposit at
50:563.65%. 65%
50:58which is expected to generate
50:59approximately $3,700 in additional
51:02interest revenue during the 9-month
51:04investment period. That is part of a
51:06broader effort by you as our council and
51:09our staff to actively manage the town's
51:11available cash while maintaining safety,
51:13liquidity, and compliance with state
51:15law.
51:17I also want to highlight a couple of
51:18examples of our of our employees
51:20stepping up to help a neighboring
51:22community. Following the significant
51:24flooding event in Mount Erie on August
51:261st, which damaged both their public
51:28works facility and license plate agency,
51:31our staff reached out to offer
51:32assistance. Rohal public works director
51:35Jason Hill offered personnel and
51:36resources to assist Mount Ari's public
51:38works department with recovery efforts.
51:41and our LPA has taken on some of Mount
51:43ER's dealer work um on an interim basis.
51:46It's probably going to be at least a
51:48month before they're reopened in Mount
51:49Erie. So, we're not only getting a lot
51:51of their foot traffic, but also a lot of
51:53their dealer work as well, which is is a
51:55lucrative proposition for the town, but
51:57we're also glad to help out our
51:59neighbors. Um I am very proud of our
52:02employees for recognizing a need beyond
52:04our municipal boundaries and asking what
52:06Rural Hall could do to help because god
52:07forbid it could happen to us one day as
52:09well. and we would hope that our
52:11neighbors would do the same. That spirit
52:13of cooperation is one of the strengths
52:14of local government in North Carolina.
52:17Planning for Rural Hall's future also
52:19continues. Council, we are coordinating
52:21with Precise County Planning staff on
52:23the rural hall area plan update. That
52:25plan was last updated about 10 years ago
52:27and it's time to review that. An
52:30overview of that process will be
52:32presented to you by the Forcy County
52:33Planning Department in September and
52:36following that will be a series of
52:38public input and public engagement
52:39opportunities that they will share more
52:41about next month.
52:45There has been considerable public
52:47discussion over the past several years
52:49about the town's finances, management
52:51practices, and operations. I have
52:53generally believed that the most
52:54appropriate response is not rhetoric,
52:56but documentation, measurable results,
52:59and the public record. I've been working
53:02to compile that broader public record,
53:04including the substantial improvements
53:05made by the town over the past three and
53:07a half years, and I anticipate sharing
53:10more about that with the council and the
53:12public in September. When we do, I think
53:14it will be important that the credit
53:16goes to where it belongs, and that is to
53:18the elected officials who are willing to
53:19address difficult issues and
53:22particularly to the staff who have done
53:23the work necessary to implement those
53:25improvements. As a little bit of a
53:27preview to that information that I'll be
53:29sharing in September, I have a handout
53:30to share with you tonight summarizing,
53:33excuse me, the town of Rural Hall's
53:35annual investment earnings over the last
53:37several years. Investment earnings have
53:40increased substantially in recent years
53:42as the town has taken a more active
53:43approach to cash management and the
53:46investment of temporarily idle funds.
53:48From fiscal year 2015 to through fiscal
53:52year 2022,
53:55the town generated approximately $79,732
54:00in investment earnings. That's over an
54:02eight fiscal year period, about $10,000
54:06a year, a little bit less than that.
54:08Since January of 2023, however,
54:10investment earnings have totaled
54:12$792,540.
54:16That is 10 times the amount earned over
54:18eight fiscal years earned in just three
54:21and a half fiscal years with sound
54:23investment practices.
54:25The larger amounts reflected in the
54:27other funds column on your handout for
54:29fiscal year 23,24 and fiscal year 2025
54:33are attributable primarily to the town's
54:34decision to promptly invest grant
54:36proceeds received for the construction
54:39of the new fire station. Those funds
54:41generated approximately $189,539
54:46in additional revenue while waiting
54:48while awaiting expenditure on the
54:50project, allowing us to put otherwise
54:52idle cash to work and helping offset the
54:55local taxpayer cost of this major
54:57capital investment. Collectively,
54:59[snorts] these earnings represent
55:01additional revenue generated through the
55:03responsible investment of existing town
55:05resources. This approach has
55:07strengthened liquidity and provided
55:08additional resources to support our
55:10operations and services and capital
55:12needs without increasing the tax burden
55:15on our taxpayers. I think that is
55:17something that you all can be
55:18exceptionally proud of.
55:21Finally, I want to recognize the broader
55:23team behind all of this work. Whether
55:25it's our firefighters putting new life
55:27safety equipment into service, finance
55:29staff working through audit
55:30documentation and grant reimbursements,
55:34public works staff offering to help
55:36another community, our license plate
55:38agency stepping up with additional
55:40traffic and working to assist our
55:41neighbors in Mount Erie, or any of our
55:44employees who work every day to handle
55:45our services and responsibilities that
55:47the town offers. These accomplishments
55:49are the result of a collective effort. I
55:52appreciate the leadership of our mayor,
55:54our town council, the professionalism of
55:57our staff, and the partnerships that
55:59we've developed with other agencies and
56:00organizations.
56:02There's a lot of work going on in our
56:04organization, folks. And I'm proud of
56:06the town of Rural Hall for continuing to
56:07strengthen its financial practices,
56:10invest in our future, support our
56:11neighbors, and provide quality services
56:14to our citizens. Council, that concludes
56:16my report. I'll be glad to answer any
56:18questions that you may have.
56:24hearing. None. I'll pass the mic over to
56:25Jason.
56:29>> Thank you, manager. Um there's a few
56:31things I wanted to point out in my
56:33report. Um and they all pertain to uh
56:37projects that we have ongoing. Um the
56:41project out on 65 is really ramping up.
56:43Um it continues. I talked to the DOT
56:46inspector last week. it continues to
56:49stay on schedule. Um actually a little
56:52ahead of schedule uh with the dry
56:54conditions through the spring. Um we're
56:57about a year in. It's a two-year
56:59project. So um we've got about a year if
57:02it stays on schedule um remaining on
57:05that one. Um the Forum Parkway
57:08connector, if anyone's been down Forum
57:10Parkway lately, they've got to have one
57:12of the largest cranes in the state,
57:14maybe the country sitting down there. Um
57:16they do have girdters across the Norfolk
57:19Southern Rail Line now. Um they're
57:22working on the approach on the
57:24university side up to the bridge. Uh
57:26that's a three-year project and it's
57:29also been in progress for about a year,
57:31so two years remaining on it if it stays
57:33on schedule. Um our staff here continues
57:37to work with DOT staff on U6190 which is
57:42um the project from Glade Street to
57:44Broad Street and just beyond Broad
57:46Street at this point on Rule Hall
57:48Germanson Road. Um we were notified
57:51several months ago that the initial plan
57:53was to widen the bridge over the
57:55railroad. Um and the design of the
57:58bridge doesn't allow it to be easily
58:01widened. Um so we've gone back to them.
58:04Um uh you know it's considerably more
58:06expensive of course to do a complete um
58:10tear out and um new construction of that
58:13bridge. Um manager Dearman has contacted
58:17um Kyle Hall to see if there's an
58:20opportunity to get financing or um you
58:23know funds for that to assist uh with
58:26with the replacement of it. And our um
58:30thinking is instead of doing this uh the
58:33DOT deems that bridge to be in fair
58:35condition. Um and our question is if
58:37it's in fair condition, how long is it
58:40going to remain in fair condition? And
58:42once it gets to poor condition, when
58:44will it be replaced? Um and they're
58:46going to do some research um amongst the
58:49staff at DOT uh just to see how far out
58:52we could see that bridge replacement
58:54happen and would it make more sense to
58:56do it all in one project. It's going to
58:58be a major disruption to traffic through
59:00town. Um and they're going to get back
59:03to us with that information. Um the
59:06manager asked me to just give a brief
59:09update on the Broad Street pedestrian
59:12project. And I'm going to be honest,
59:13these grants are nice, but it's a
59:16headache. Um, and this is the first one
59:19that I've been associated with with
59:21getting the federal funding. Um, I want
59:23to give credit where credit is due to,
59:26uh, Miss Anita and Mark Lane. Um, I
59:29represent the town on the technical
59:31coordinating committee. Um, they are on
59:34a, um, committee, which is the technical
59:37advisory committee. Uh so we'll meet
59:39first as staff level and then everything
59:42we approve goes to the elected body um
59:46and it's made up um the metropolitan
59:49planning organization is made up of um
59:52Rule Hall, King Louisville,
59:54Kernersville, Winston Salem, that
59:56general area and a few more
59:58municipalities and um you may see a
1:00:01share occasionally um the the NO
1:00:06wants input from the public. So, if you
1:00:08ever see us post um a survey or anything
1:00:12like that, that's your time to uh
1:00:15directly impact the decisions that are
1:00:18being made as far as transportation goes
1:00:20in this area, not just rule hall, but
1:00:22for Scythe County, and I'm sure we all
1:00:25uh travel on the roadways that are
1:00:27affected by that. Um, so our project is,
1:00:31um, as I've talked about in the past,
1:00:33the Broad Street Pedestrian project, um,
1:00:36gives, uh, safe areas, crosswalks along
1:00:39the Broad Street corridor, um, to cross.
1:00:42They're signaled. Um, also some
1:00:46sidewalks around Roy Hall Elementary
1:00:48School to uh, make it safer for the
1:00:50children to cross over, to go to
1:00:52Coington Park and anyone for that
1:00:54matter. Um back back on July 16th
1:00:58funding was approved by the TCC and the
1:01:01Tac.
1:01:03Um and at this point it will go to um NC
1:01:08[clears throat] DOT to the Department of
1:01:10Transportation uh to their board for
1:01:13approval. Um and Hunter with the city of
1:01:16Winston Salem who was here and gave a
1:01:18presentation several months back um is a
1:01:21wizard on all this. I rely heavily on
1:01:23him. I think Mark Lane can say the same.
1:01:26Um, you know, he is, um, if we've got a
1:01:30question, if he's in office, he replies
1:01:33within the hour most of the time. Um,
1:01:35and he talks the engineering lingo that
1:01:38sometimes over my head and I have to
1:01:40say, "Hang on a second. You know, slow
1:01:42down so we can understand this." But,
1:01:44um, he's super in providing information.
1:01:47And we sent an email a couple weeks ago.
1:01:50I didn't know that, um, Councilman Lane
1:01:52was sending an email. He didn't know I
1:01:54was sending one, but I think we about
1:01:55sent one the same day. Um, just
1:01:58inquiring about our next steps and
1:02:00trying to understand the process. And
1:02:03his response was basically um the
1:02:06project construction would could begin
1:02:08in 2030. If everything stays on schedule
1:02:11um with funding, we would go to um into
1:02:14the design phase in 2027.
1:02:18Um funds for the project would be
1:02:20programmed into a state improve uh
1:02:22transportation improvement program uh
1:02:25for fiscal year 28. Um funding
1:02:29authorized for design uh October 1 of
1:02:3227. Um and then our essentially our
1:02:35project is small. Um some of them are
1:02:38larger when you're building bridges and
1:02:40roadways and traffic circles and all
1:02:42this sort of thing. But um construction
1:02:44once it starts should be complete
1:02:47possibly within 6 months. Um it's just a
1:02:50smaller scale project, but this is
1:02:52allowing us to get our feet wet uh with
1:02:55getting federal funding. Um and I'm not
1:02:58going to bore you anymore um with
1:03:00acronyms and um and all the jargon here.
1:03:04Just trying to keep it simple because
1:03:06that's how I understand it. But if you
1:03:08have any questions about this project,
1:03:10we're looking forward to it. It will um
1:03:13the tie in nicely with the timing for um
1:03:17with the broad or the 65 project from
1:03:21Glade Street to Broad Street. It should
1:03:24all come together and wrap up at about
1:03:26the same time. So, the timing, even
1:03:28though I'm ready to start now or, you
1:03:31know, this fall and uh and and push
1:03:33forward and get things done, but that
1:03:35timing will work out nicely with that uh
1:03:38project that's in the stip that uh DOT
1:03:40is doing for us.
1:03:43>> Okay.
1:03:45Any questions?
1:03:51Do you have any more department
1:03:54reports? That is all that I have. Any
1:03:56other staff members have anything?
1:03:58>> Chair and mayor.
1:03:59>> That concludes our department reports.
1:04:01>> Okay. Well, I'm going back to the
1:04:03department reports because I want
1:04:09>> Thank you. I turned it off there for a
1:04:12few minutes. Um, okay. I'm going to go
1:04:15back to the department reports and back
1:04:18to your report. Uh because one of the
1:04:22things that we've said under public
1:04:23comment, the council will only listen
1:04:25and not respond but may decide to place
1:04:27a topic on future agendas. Well,
1:04:32it has been on the agenda uh I mean uh
1:04:35public comment for several months
1:04:39and you have stated that you added
1:04:44a statement regarding the false
1:04:46allegations
1:04:48and and it is public knowledge. I
1:04:52understand that. But we're live and this
1:04:56is probably being listened to all over
1:04:59the state. And I would say with
1:05:02allegations that I just heard that you
1:05:05should be able to respond by answering
1:05:08these allegations by the what you
1:05:10submitted in our report.
1:05:13>> Thank you, mayor. I'll be glad to I'll
1:05:15go ahead and assert from the start that
1:05:16I'm not a psychopath. I'm a professional
1:05:19local government manager. And as a
1:05:21professional local government manager, I
1:05:23understand that uh we have to follow
1:05:26state law and policies and procedures.
1:05:28If you come up and tell me you want a
1:05:29fixture off an old building, that's
1:05:32great, but I need that in writing. I
1:05:33need that in an offer in pursuant to
1:05:35North Carolina General Statute. I never
1:05:37heard that directly from Miss Cohen in
1:05:39any way. And that is why I drafted this
1:05:41statement, which I will share at this
1:05:43time. Questions have been repeatedly
1:05:45raised by Miss June Cohen regarding the
1:05:48disposition of the awnings removed
1:05:49during the demolition of the former
1:05:51Royal Hall Fire Station building. Most
1:05:53recently, Miss Cohen repeated those
1:05:55questions and false allegations during
1:05:57the July 13, 2026 council meeting and
1:06:00again this evening. Although town staff
1:06:03has responded to those concerns on
1:06:05multiple occasions, inaccurate claims
1:06:06regarding the disposition of the awnings
1:06:08continue to be repeated by Miss Cohen.
1:06:11In the interest of providing a clear and
1:06:13complete public record, the following
1:06:14information is provided as part of this
1:06:17monthly report. As part of the
1:06:19demolition project, the contractor was
1:06:21responsible for removing and disposing
1:06:23of materials associated with the
1:06:25structure in accordance with the
1:06:26approved demolition contract. The
1:06:29awnings were among the building
1:06:30components removed during that work.
1:06:32I'll stop there to explain just a little
1:06:34bit further that when a demolition
1:06:36contractor bids on a project, they
1:06:38consider the recyclable value, the
1:06:40resale value, all of those things when
1:06:43they submit a bid. And so all of that
1:06:45was considered when the contractor put
1:06:47together the bid.
1:06:50Like many other materials associated
1:06:51with the former building, the awnings
1:06:53had been exposed to the elements for
1:06:55many years. Indeed, the canvas on the
1:06:57awnings was weathered. Each of the lower
1:06:58level awnings easily tore with the
1:07:00slightest pressure, and the upper level
1:07:01awnings were in worse condition. The
1:07:04removal, transportation, and storage of
1:07:06these awnings would have required
1:07:07additional labor, equipment, and expense
1:07:10for the town of Ro Hall. The town did
1:07:12not identify a practical municipal use
1:07:15for the awnings, nor was there any plan
1:07:16to retain them for future use, and no
1:07:20formal interest or offer was received by
1:07:22anyone, including Miss Cohen. That is
1:07:26something that is put to the council for
1:07:28review. We never received any kind of
1:07:30offer. We never received any kind of
1:07:32written offer. Her assertion is
1:07:34completely false.
1:07:37Miss Cohen also stated to at least one
1:07:39town employee at the time that she was
1:07:41no longer interested in the awnings and
1:07:43to forget about it. I've heard that
1:07:45recording myself. I know that that was
1:07:46said by her.
1:07:48The town's priority throughout the
1:07:50project was to complete the demolition
1:07:52safely, efficiently, and in a manner
1:07:54that supported construction of the new
1:07:55fire station while avoiding unnecessary
1:07:57cost to taxpayers. Similar decisions
1:08:00were made regarding numerous other
1:08:02components of the building, including
1:08:03the exterior steps and various fixtures
1:08:06and hardware. We had a couple of folks
1:08:08that came by and expressed interest in
1:08:09the exterior steps that led to the
1:08:12dwelling uh portion of the building. and
1:08:14the contractor uh asked us about it and
1:08:17we basically discussed that and said,
1:08:19you know, it's part of the demolition
1:08:20contract. They felt it would not be safe
1:08:22to remove and so we urged [snorts] them
1:08:24to go ahead and destroy them.
1:08:27Um
1:08:29items that were practical and
1:08:30economically feasible to salvage were
1:08:32handled accordingly, including those
1:08:33declared surplus, several of which were
1:08:35sold in accordance with town procedures
1:08:37on govdeealss.com.
1:08:39Materials that did not meet those
1:08:41standards, including the former awnings,
1:08:43remain part of the demolition process. I
1:08:46did direct the public works department
1:08:48to remove the awnings from the building
1:08:49once their weathered and worn condition
1:08:51was ascertained to avoid allegations
1:08:53from Miss Cohen, suggesting that the
1:08:55awnings had been improperly removed or
1:08:57stolen. I did photograph and video
1:08:59record much of the demolition process to
1:09:02document that the awnings were in fact
1:09:03crushed and disposed of as part of the
1:09:06contractor's work and as the town
1:09:08contractually agreed. Those photographs
1:09:10were taken primarily to verify the facts
1:09:12and address those allegations. And many
1:09:14of the photos of the process were shared
1:09:15publicly as there was a great deal of
1:09:18public interest and nostalgia with the
1:09:19demolition of the old building. That was
1:09:22the occasion at which I did call Miss
1:09:24Cohen crazy and out of her mind
1:09:26following a discussion right over there
1:09:28um shortly after the demolition of the
1:09:30awnings because she continued to make
1:09:32false allegations. I do regret those
1:09:35comments, but I said what I said.
1:09:39It is important to note that North
1:09:41Carolina law provides a mechanism by
1:09:43which members of the public may submit
1:09:44an offer to purchase government-owned
1:09:47property. Had Miss Cohen or any other
1:09:49interested party submitted a proposal
1:09:51pursuant to North Carolina General
1:09:53Statute 168-269
1:09:56before the demolition occurred, the town
1:09:59could have evaluated that request and
1:10:00determined whether salvaging the awnings
1:10:02was in the public interest. No such
1:10:05proposal was ever submitted, nor was any
1:10:07formal request ever made to preserve or
1:10:09acquire the awnings before they were
1:10:11demolished. Miss Cohen was well aware of
1:10:14this procedure, having argued with the
1:10:15town over a failed attempt to circumvent
1:10:17that legal process with regard to
1:10:20surplus real estate that the town sold
1:10:22on Glade Street earlier in 2025.
1:10:26Following her unfounded complaints at
1:10:27that time, Miss Cohen was given copies
1:10:29of the applicable statute and supporting
1:10:32information from the UNCC School of
1:10:34Government, yet continued to accuse me
1:10:36and our town staff of wrongdoing, even
1:10:38accusing me of taking kickbacks on the
1:10:41sale of the Glade Street property
1:10:43despite the statutory procedure being
1:10:45followed to the letter.
1:10:48I don't have to put up with that as a
1:10:49public employee, and neither should any
1:10:51other public employee. The facts
1:10:53surrounding the disposition of the
1:10:55awnings were straightforward. The
1:10:57awnings were demolished in accordance
1:10:58with the demolition contract. No formal
1:11:01request or offer to require them was
1:11:03submitted before demolition. And there
1:11:05is no factual basis for June Cohen's
1:11:08claims that they were stolen or
1:11:10improperly disposed of. With this
1:11:13information now part of the public
1:11:14record, I believe the pertinent facts
1:11:16surrounding the demolition of the
1:11:17awnings have been fully documented. Town
1:11:19staff remains committed to carrying out
1:11:21all projects transparently, responsibly,
1:11:24and in accordance with North Carolina
1:11:26law. Thank you, mayor.
1:11:29>> Thank you.
1:11:35I'd entertain a motion to adjurnn.
1:11:38>> I'll make a motion to adjurnn.
1:11:40>> Motion has been made. Second.
1:11:42>> Second.
1:11:42>> All those in favor? All right. Bye.
