2026-07-13 - Town Council
Summary
Built from the approved minutes first, then the auto-generated video captions for added detail. Caption names and numbers may be misheard; the minutes are the official record.
Official minutes
- Regular meeting at 7:00 PM in the Council Chambers; Mayor Pro Tem Horn was excused (motion by Ring, seconded by Lane). Three items were added to the agenda by unanimous vote: the June 22 minutes, a Certificate of Satisfaction of Deed of Trust, and a state budget office grant amendment.
- Sixteen residents signed up for public comment. The mayor read a statement that the council's resolution supporting the revised data center proposal was a recommendation and not an approval, because Forsyth County holds zoning authority. Lane described a data center he visited in Maiden, NC; Woodcock asked that the Yadkin Valley Railroad be invited to the next Town Hall meeting. See Project Iron Spur Data Center, Yadkin Valley Railroad Transloading and Public Trust and Transparency.
- Consent agenda: the June 8 regular and June 22 special meeting minutes approved unanimously.
- Certificate of Satisfaction clearing an outdated 1984 deed of trust ($14,225) under the housing rehabilitation program: Woodcock moved, Lane seconded, unanimous. See Housing Rehabilitation Deed of Trust Release.
- State grant agreement amendment (Session Law 2026-1 extends the spending deadline to June 30, 2027): Ring moved, Lane seconded, unanimous. See Fire Station State Grant Extension.
- WithersRavenel presented primary plans for Covington Park; grand opening projected for summer 2027. See Covington Memorial Park Improvements.
- December 14 meeting moved to December 1 for the swearing-in of new officials: Ring moved, Woodcock seconded, unanimous. See 2026 Council Meeting Schedule.
- NCDOT Mowing and Maintenance Agreement for FY 2027: moved by Lane, seconded by Ring (no tally recorded). See NCDOT Mowing and Maintenance Agreement.
- Adjourned at 9:08 PM.
Added detail from the video captions
- Announcements: Splash Day on July 31 and National Night Out on August 4, both at Covington Park; town offices closed September 7 for Labor Day; yard of the month awards. A new sheriff's deputy for the town's day shift was introduced.
- The mayor opened with a statement on the council's June 22 action (Resolution 912) supporting the revised Project Iron Spur data center proposal. He said it was a recommendation, not an approval, because Forsyth County holds zoning authority; the council backed annexation so the town would receive tax revenue and a voice if the county approves the project.
- Public comment ran long and was mostly about the data center. Most speakers opposed it, citing noise, diesel backup generators and air quality, water use during a drought, nearby churches, a cemetery and a school, the nearby fuel depot, and the county Planning Board's recommendation of denial. A few speakers supported it, citing tax revenue and the developer's commitments. Several speakers also criticized the June 22 meeting process, saying Resolution 912 was not made public in advance, and complained of slow responses to public records requests.
- Council members responded: Terry M. Bennett said he and Mark Lane toured data center sites in Maiden, North Carolina, and described them as quiet with little local complaint; he urged residents to watch the county commissioners' briefings on water and to attend the county review. Lane said the county is doing its due diligence and a power briefing was expected at a later county meeting. A council member said the developer was expected to return aiming for a lower noise limit.
- Michael Woodcock asked staff to invite the railroad operators to a future session to answer community safety questions about the transloading facility.
- Consent agenda (minutes of the June 8 regular meeting and June 22 special meeting) approved.
- Authorized the mayor to sign a certificate of satisfaction clearing an obsolete 1984 rehabilitation-loan deed of trust from a property title; the town had no record of a balance and the debt could no longer be collected, so there was no cost to the town.
- Approved an amendment to the state grant agreement for the fire station, extending the expenditure deadline to June 30, 2027 under a 2026 session law; the funds are already spent.
- Consultants presented schematic designs for phase one of the Covington Park playground improvements: an enlarged playground with rope play, a fitness and obstacle challenge course and a family picnic plaza. The total was estimated at about $1.2 to $1.3 million, with a $500,000 Parks and Recreation Trust Fund grant and a town match of about $771,000. Bidding is expected in November or December and construction next spring, possibly finishing by summer 2027. The item was for discussion only.
- Moved the December council meeting to December 1, so it falls in the same week as the tree lighting and parade, and swearing-in is included.
- Renewed the NCDOT mowing and litter agreement, worth $8,005.50, through June 30, 2027.
- Town manager Homer Dearmin reported on year-end audit work, the Covington Park grant, two new local laws (removing the town from the countywide fire service district and setting petition procedures for unaffiliated candidates), moving a $30,000 certificate of deposit into the state capital management trust, and an NCDOT letter on preliminary studies for widening NC 65 between Glade Street and NC 66.
- The mayor thanked the Rural Hall Garden Club for seasonal banners; adjourned.
Issues discussed
- Project Iron Spur Data Center
- Public Trust and Transparency
- Covington Memorial Park Improvements
- Yadkin Valley Railroad Transloading
- Fire Station State Grant Extension
- NCDOT Mowing and Maintenance Agreement
- Broad Street Pedestrian Project and State Road Projects
- November 2026 Municipal Election
- Town Events Program
Further issues from the minutes
Sources
- Approved minutes: https://www.ruralhall.com/api/blob/gb?gb=CfDJ8FrqSqLo8IxNr9uPO3mLntI7s2jDDLMxvI8gTmQTHou-TDOSLi5wFnKEhn_AMyH4FCxvJp80DE2_Chj99ANcqWCP5bNP-qzCf6kScWgdLO6TK_GEuzZsHlLWnm5IArgcqZSB1S_7azQQsJLhWnxNojB8n6vRHYvFUnla8gFqbiW3jP_Mmtfgqzj1L6Pz4_rXwDLzmONeFB66x7A27xoVaIiFDA5Vj8Ylg6AEF_bLltvQPFEjZH9I64ntJDIW_ftXRoCN_qvDvJ8FnxEH63nBIHl_DNF9l5mcLJpRIwoBERn-Fy70fqbqjjrC_lVUM0t2sg
- Video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oB7Q5LYyScU
Video
Transcript
These are auto-generated captions; names and numbers may be misheard.
Transcript
00:10My walker.
00:11I Whitney.
00:12Whitney.
00:16My microphone won't cut off.
00:22Mhm.
00:22I know it won't cut off.
00:26>> How are you, Mark?
00:27>> I'm doing well.
00:28How about yourself?
00:29>> I'm doing good.
00:30>> We got a new folder.
00:31>> Can you use that now? You know, off.
00:34>> It would have been nice having a little
00:35reprieve from the heat the last day or
00:37so.
00:37>> Yeah, and then the rain.
00:38>> Yeah, it was going to do more than that,
00:40but it was a nice steady rain, so that
00:41was nice.
00:48Broke it already.
00:49>> Well, it won't turn off.
00:53>> Same thing you told me.
00:56>> Well, yours go on and off?
00:58>> Yeah, mine works.
00:59>> And on, okay.
01:01>> Well, I'll do
01:01>> Your on and off, cool.
01:03>> Yep, it's good.
01:06Hold your finger on it for a second.
01:11Mhm, both of them.
01:14>> I don't mind.
01:15>> It's on, but it's sensitive.
01:16>> Mhm.
01:16>> They just really want to hear you.
01:20>> I don't like that because I
01:25>> Well, then things you put your hand in
01:26and the nails go up and down.
01:28>> Yeah.
01:29>> You know what I'm talking about?
01:54>> And this sensor is too.
01:56No, it's on, But you can't cut it off.
02:55Let me know.
04:39>> I'd like to call this meeting of the
04:40Rural Hall Town Council to order at 7:00
04:43p.m.
04:46We'll start out with the pledge of
04:47allegiance by clerk Hendrick and please
04:51remain standing
04:53for a moment of silence.
05:00>> I pledge allegiance to the flag
05:02of the United States of America
05:05and to the republic for which it stands,
05:08one nation under God, indivisible, with
05:12liberty and justice for all.
05:34>> You may be seated.
05:40Go over some announcements first. Splash
05:43Day will be July 31st
05:47at 1:00 to 3:00
05:49at Covington Park.
05:53National Night Out is August the 4th at
05:57Covington Park from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m.
06:01Um
06:02Labor Day observance will be September
06:05the 7th.
06:07Uh town offices will be closed.
06:10Yard of the month for June, Ivy Martins,
06:147260
06:16Broad Street.
06:17Uh are you here?
06:19We have a certificate for you.
06:22Um
06:23July 2026 yard of the month, uh Mark and
06:26Diane Ziegler.
06:30And that's at 7320 Foster Street. They
06:33uh Ivy is um
06:35for June was 7260 Broad Street.
06:40Okay.
06:43Council, you had a chance to look over
06:45the agenda. Um
06:47any additions, deletions?
06:53I think town manager, you've got a
06:56couple
06:56>> Thank you, Mayor. I have two items that
06:58I would like to request that you
07:00actually three items that I'd like to
07:01ask that you add to your agenda.
07:03One is under your consent agenda, the
07:05minutes from your special meeting
07:08um from the executive session
07:10and from the special meeting on June
07:1122nd.
07:13The additional two items of new business
07:15are in front of you this evening as a
07:17agenda addendum one
07:19and addendum two.
07:21Addendum one is a contract amendment
07:23with the North Carolina Office of State
07:24Budget and Management.
07:26And the second addendum is the
07:30um
07:31certificate of satisfaction of deed of
07:33trust.
07:35And I will brief council I I briefed you
07:37all on those via email, but I'll brief
07:39those this evening if you'll add those
07:40to the agenda.
07:46All right. Um let's put them under new
07:49business. Let's just go ahead and add
07:51them uh one and two
07:54uh before the Covington Park
07:56presentation.
07:58And
07:59cuz that should be a fairly quickly.
08:04All right.
08:07>> [clears throat]
08:13>> Any other?
08:16I'd entertain a motion to accept the
08:19agenda with the
08:22added additions to it.
08:29>> Mayor, I'll make a motion that we accept
08:31the agenda with the
08:33two additional addendums added to it,
08:35addendum one and two.
08:37>> Motion by Councilman Lane.
08:40>> Second.
08:41>> Second by Councilwoman Ring. Any further
08:43discussion? Seeing none, all those in
08:47favor?
08:48>> I.
08:48>> I.
08:49>> Okay.
08:56>> [clears throat]
08:58>> Corporal Collins uh invites you up to
09:01introduce one of our new employees.
09:04Oh, you're over there. Okay.
09:19>> All right. This is Deputy Vault. He's
09:21been with the sheriff's office for 3
09:22years. He is taking Deputy Holly's
09:26position. Holly took a promotion and
09:28went to night shift as a corporal. So,
09:30he is now filling Holly's position on
09:33day shift.
09:34>> Okay.
09:35>> Thank you.
09:35>> Welcome.
09:36>> Welcome.
09:39>> [applause]
09:52>> Before we move into public comment, I
09:54would like to address a couple of
09:56things.
09:58Uh before we begin the meeting, uh
10:00tonight's meeting, I would like to take
10:01a few moments to address the council's
10:04recent action adopting a resolution
10:07supporting the proposed data center.
10:10Over the past several months, the issue
10:12has generated significant public
10:14interest and unders- understandably
10:17strong opinions.
10:19Many residents have attended meetings,
10:21submitted comments, sent emails, and
10:24shared their perspectives.
10:26Whether you support or oppose the
10:28project, I want to sincerely thank
10:30everyone who participated in the
10:32process.
10:33An engaged community is one of
10:35Rolesville's greatest strengths.
10:38I also recognize that some people are
10:40disappointed by the council's decision
10:42to support the revised proposal.
10:45I respect those feelings, and I
10:47understand why some residents have
10:49questions about how we reached that
10:51decision.
10:53The responsibility of serving on the
10:55town council is all uh not always easy.
10:59Our oath requires us to make decisions
11:02based on what we believe will be the
11:04best s- uh serve best to serve the
11:08long-term interests of the entire
11:10community.
11:12Sometimes those decisions are widely
11:15supported, other times they're not. The
11:18responsibility remains the same
11:20regardless of how difficult the
11:23decisions may be.
11:26Throughout the process, the council
11:28listened carefully to public comments,
11:30reviewed information from multiple
11:32sources,
11:34met with stakeholders, and discussed the
11:36issue over several months.
11:39The proposal that ultimately came before
11:42us reflected numerous revisions
11:45from what was originally presented.
11:47While those changes did not eliminate
11:49every concern, they did influence the
11:52council's evaluation.
11:55The council also had to consider its
11:57fiduciary responsibility to protect the
12:01town's long-term financial interest.
12:04Every year we are entrusted with
12:07management managing public resources,
12:10man- maintaining essential services,
12:13investing in infrastructure, and
12:15planning for the future.
12:18We have a duty not only to meet today's
12:20needs, but also to ensure the future
12:23town councils and future taxpayers are
12:25not left with financial obligations that
12:28could have been avoided through careful
12:30planning and prudent decision-making.
12:34One of the council's most significant
12:36considerations was the financial impact
12:39if a project of this scale were
12:42ultimately approved without being
12:44annexed into the town.
12:47Because Forsyth County has zoning
12:50authority over this property, the
12:52county, not the town, will make the
12:55final land use decision.
12:57If the county were to approve the
13:00project without annexation, Rolesville
13:03could still experience increased demands
13:05associated with growth near our
13:08municipal boundaries while receiving
13:11little or no municipal property tax
13:13revenue
13:15from the development itself.
13:18The council believed that
13:20that outcome would not be in the town's
13:22best financial interest.
13:25By By supporting annexation, the council
13:28sought to ensure that if a project moves
13:30forward,
13:32Rolesville would also receive the tax
13:34base associated with that development.
13:40Those revenues can help fund public
13:42services, maintain infrastructure,
13:45preserve the town's financial stability,
13:48and and reduce future pressure
13:51on existing taxpayers. It's important to
13:55emphasize that the council's action was
13:57not an
13:58not an approval of the project. The town
14:00does not have the legal authority to
14:02make that decision.
14:04Rather, it was a recommendation based on
14:06what the council believes best protects
14:09Rolesville's interests under the
14:11circumstances before us.
14:14Reasonable people can disagree about
14:17whether this project is appropriate.
14:21And I respect those different differing
14:23viewpoints. Healthy debate is part of
14:26our local government. What I ask is that
14:29we continue those discussions with
14:31civility and respect for one another.
14:34We are neighbors first, and regardless
14:37of where we stand on the issue, I
14:39believe we all want what is best for
14:42Rolesville.
14:43The council remains committed to
14:45activate actively actively of for the
14:49this community
14:50throughout the remainder of the county's
14:53review process. If the project proceeds,
14:56we will continue working with county
14:57officials and the developer to encourage
15:01outcomes that protect Rolesville's
15:03quality of life and address the concerns
15:06our residents have expressed.
15:08Thank you for your continued engagement,
15:11your passion for our community, and your
15:13commitment to Rolesville. We may not
15:15always agree, but I hope we can continue
15:18moving together forward or forward
15:20together with mutual respect and shared
15:23commitment to the future of our town.
15:27With that being said, we will move into
15:30our public comment period.
15:32Um
15:36each person will have up to 6 minutes.
15:39It will be timed.
15:41Um if you hear the uh bell go off,
15:44finish as quickly as possible
15:46or I'll have to uh
15:48kind of step in.
15:54All right. Uh
15:56Clerk Hendrick.
16:00>> June Cohen.
16:20Have to put my eyeballs on.
16:24June Cohen,
16:254:30 College Street, Rural Hall.
16:33First, I would like to say good evening
16:35to the council and I would thank them
16:38for them
16:40returning my calls. They have been very
16:42nice to return my calls what I made to
16:45them.
16:47I would like to say the squeaking wheel
16:50gets the grease.
16:51I have lived in this town and paid taxes
16:54longer than any of you. I own several
16:57old buildings in the downtown historical
17:00district of Rural Hall. In 2025,
17:04I asked Jason Hill, public works
17:07director, if I could purchase the
17:10awnings that were attached to the 1988
17:13old fire station. This old fire station
17:16was to be demolished. Terry Bennett
17:19Mayor Terry Bennett and town manager
17:22Homer Dearman ordered Jason Hill to
17:26remove these awnings from the building
17:28on August the 27th, 2025.
17:32This was done during the dark of the
17:35morning sacredly. These awnings were
17:38hidden. I inquired of every council
17:41member of the whereabouts of these
17:44awnings on September the 8th, 2025.
17:48Not one of you knew. On September the
17:5110th, Homer Dearman took pictures of the
17:54awnings being crushed inside of the fire
17:58station.
18:00The crushed awnings were put in the
18:02dump. This was against the law. Jason
18:06Hill told at the October 13th, 2025
18:10council meeting that Homer Dearman had
18:13ordered him to take the awnings down.
18:17Jason said he placed the awnings outside
18:20of the old fire department, not inside.
18:24Upon hearing Jason speak, Homer Dearman
18:27came over and in the presence of others
18:30admitted he had ordered the awnings
18:33removed and he had them crushed for
18:36spite. This was in violation of number
18:40three of his employment contract. The
18:44act of destroying public property Mayor
18:47Bennett was present when the awnings
18:50were crushed. The town council was given
18:53pictures that Homer Dearman took of the
18:56awnings being crushed. Yet, you did not
18:59fire him. These pictures pictures
19:03convicted Homer Dearman of violating
19:06number two of his employment contract.
19:10You [snorts] knew Homer Dearman had been
19:12fired as town manager in King
19:15May 6, 2022 when you hired him. Now,
19:20[snorts] Terry Bennett and Homer Derman
19:22are allowed to use the town newsletter,
19:26the Garden Spot News, for their personal
19:28gain. In the last issue, July, August,
19:32and September, they posted
19:35advertisements for two businesses in
19:37town. This was wrong, unethical, and
19:41more of their devious behavior. There
19:44[snorts] are many places in Rural Hall
19:46that have been here for over 20 years
19:49and have never been acknowledged in the
19:52Garden Spot News.
19:54>> [snorts]
19:54>> Homer Derman should be fired.
19:57He has violated section B, number two,
20:01and number three of his employment
20:03contract. He should be fired with cause.
20:08Terry Bennett should never be the mayor
20:10of this town. Not now, not ever. Terry
20:14[snorts] Bennett and Homer Derman
20:16violated title six of the United States
20:20government non-discrimination law, Civil
20:23Rights Act of 1964.
20:26Both men also broke North Carolina
20:29General Statute 168-270
20:33law. Any questions? If anybody wants me
20:37to prove what I have said here, I have
20:40the proof of everything that I have said
20:42here. Thank you so much for your
20:45service.
20:51>> [applause]
20:58>> Ava Vernon
21:16>> Hello, my name is Eve Vernon and I live
21:18on Broad Street. On June the 22nd, all
21:21of you held a special meeting which I
21:23could not attend because I was out of
21:24town and I was appalled.
21:27Um
21:29after that meeting Carol requested the
21:32emails
21:33for the two-to-one statement that you
21:35made and I noticed that both mine and my
21:37husband's were not included. So, I have
21:39provided for you today the ones that I
21:42sent. I did not send them to everyone. I
21:44only sent them to those I felt were on
21:46the fence about the situation.
21:50Um
21:52in the meeting you told us to get our
21:53facts. If you were more open to speaking
21:56with those of us opposed, you would
21:58clearly see that in fact we have plenty
22:00of facts.
22:01Some I'm sure have been emailed to you.
22:04Also, you were not misrepresented at the
22:06planning board. You chose not to be
22:08there.
22:09For, against, or neutral, you could have
22:10came to see what your community thought,
22:13their concerns, and how many folks
22:15besides us showed up, but you chose not
22:18to show up and that's on you.
22:20Now, on the noise of the data center,
22:22you feel
22:24that 50 or 60 decibels is minor, but if
22:26you listen to it for 24/7, it would
22:29drive anyone crazy. I would like to
22:31close by discussing the aggravation of
22:34constant sound that you cannot control
22:36or turn off.
26:44>> All of those who oppose, please stand.
26:49While that may have been amusing to some
26:51of you, I will have to live across the
26:53street from that. Thank you.
26:57>> [applause]
27:06>> Jane Bodenheimer
27:20Greetings to all of you.
27:23My name is Jane Bodenheimer. I live at
27:26776
27:28Cook Road, Rural Hall,
27:31North Carolina 27045.
27:37I'm here to let you know that I am
27:41opposed to the data center being built
27:45in this very heart
27:48of Rural Hall's town.
27:55If you can
27:57visualize
28:00a graveside service being held at the
28:03Rural Hall Cemetery,
28:06which is probably within 100 to 200 ft
28:11of the property line,
28:15and the noise coming from the data
28:18center,
28:20how disrupting that would be to try to
28:23have a funeral service.
28:26And there are a lot of graveside
28:28services that are held in cemeteries
28:31now.
28:34I am opposed to the noise,
28:37I'm opposed to the air pollution,
28:42the light pollution,
28:45the consumption of water
28:49and I understand we have determined or
28:52it's been determined that possibly
28:56600,000
28:57gallons a day
29:00would be used
29:02by the data center.
29:05Yet Forsyth County just
29:08in the last couple of weeks
29:11have asked us
29:14as ordinary citizens to please cut back
29:19on our water usage.
29:22We were told that
29:26they were only using maybe 50%
29:31of what's available for the county, the
29:34city, wherever the water comes from.
29:38So, what happens when the data center
29:42if the data center is built?
29:45Can they run with that less water?
29:48Can they cut back?
29:51If not, who do you think's going to take
29:54the brunt of that?
29:58It'll be us.
30:00Every one of us.
30:07I'm opposed to the environmental
30:10problems that we could have to the
30:13disturbance of the wildlife
30:18in our
30:20in our town.
30:24And I would like to ask
30:42what will be the total cost for required
30:46water,
30:48electrical,
30:50and infrastructure
30:52upgrades
30:55on the data center?
31:01And will local taxpayers be subsidizing
31:05this?
31:07Will we be asked to update
31:10anything that needs to be done in the
31:13data center?
31:19I'm a member of Nazareth Lutheran
31:21Church.
31:22The property adjoins
31:25the
31:27the farm.
31:31We have a community garden there on the
31:35property.
31:37We have a labyrinth, a walk, prayer walk
31:42labyrinth.
31:43We have a volleyball court that the
31:47youth use. We have a picnic shelter.
31:50And we have outside services there two
31:53or three times a year.
31:57Wonder how disrupting that is going to
31:59be
32:01when
32:02we are trying to have our service there
32:05outside.
32:07We've gotten used to the traffic going
32:09by, so we don't notice that, but that
32:13plus
32:15the hum
32:17of
32:1860s,
32:2070, 80 decibels,
32:31doesn't sound very promising, does it?
32:37And has any thought been given
32:40to
32:42a mandate
32:45for historic preservation
32:48of
32:49our churches our church is getting ready
32:52to celebrate 250 years
32:55of being organized 1778.
33:00Has there been any thought given to
33:03any kind of fund that would be set aside
33:06to
33:08help with the structural maintenance
33:11or
33:12acoustic retrofitting
33:16or any other relief fund?
33:21If those things haven't been talked
33:23about they surely need to be talked
33:25about.
33:27It's not a good fit for rural hall.
33:31We all know that.
33:39And I'm perplexed
33:41as to why we are having to
33:45be subjected to this.
33:49Thank you for your time.
33:53And I hope you will
33:56encourage
33:59the right decision to be made.
34:03Thank you.
34:05>> [applause]
34:14>> Patricia Osborne
34:18>> I feel like I've been called up in
34:19school so
34:21I'll just break it up a little bit here.
34:23Um
34:26I want to talk about several things
34:29uh that are really
34:31on my heart here.
34:33Uh I live on 575 Academy Street in Rural
34:36Hall.
34:38I pay taxes
34:40to this town for several things. Okay?
34:44Um
34:45I would like to say good evening
34:47neighbors and leaders. We are here
34:49because the future of Rural Hall is on
34:52the line. It is on the line.
34:55The proposed 130-acre project Iron Spur
34:59data center
35:00threatens to permanently
35:03destroy our quiet town.
35:07The Drocks Group
35:09while some leaders changed their minds
35:13for tax revenue
35:16the health of our children cannot be
35:20bought.
35:21Okay?
35:23Our children are number one.
35:26And I don't need to go into this part,
35:27but the park over there
35:30I taught school for 33 years. We took
35:34trips to Old Salem.
35:37Okay?
35:39Do you think
35:41that I would think of taking children
35:43over there to that park?
35:46There is no way I would do that.
35:49None whatsoever would I do that.
35:53So, that's one liability that you all
35:56need to deal with tonight. Okay? Because
35:59you're a part of that.
36:00That park.
36:04Each generator
36:06over there, when they talked to the
36:09commissioners meeting
36:11that was uh the 9th of July
36:15they talked about 8 ft wide, 40 ft long
36:19each one of those generators.
36:22Approximately 175 generators is going to
36:26be over there. Those big generators.
36:30You can't feasibly understand how big
36:34that is.
36:35Okay? But, you can understand 8 ft wide
36:39and 40 ft long, right?
36:42The diesel storage over there will be
36:452.5 million
36:47to 8.5 million
36:50depending on the backup hours
36:53uh to continuously have a run in case we
36:58have a system here that breaks down, you
37:02know,
37:03uh the heat
37:05and people have to have the run air
37:07conditioning running more, okay? They're
37:09going to have to run those diesel
37:11generators.
37:13And all of those fumes and those
37:16products that's going to come off of
37:17that is going to be really bad, okay?
37:23And you know, the other thing that
37:24really concerns me is the depot
37:28and those fuel storage down there.
37:31When you drive by there, all of those
37:33tankers and full of ethanol.
37:36That is not away from this data center.
37:39It is a short distance. When you go to
37:42look and they talked about that where
37:44the little
37:46uh place where they're going to have all
37:47the storage of this fuel is going to be,
37:51you're going to be able to go right from
37:52that to that depot. If we have something
37:55go uh wrong over there at the depot,
37:57it's going to affect us.
38:00And it's not going to affect us in a
38:01good way. It's going to be a bad way,
38:04okay?
38:08Getting back to um the children
38:11cuz I I want to I want to talk just a
38:13little bit about that.
38:15Uh the microscopic soot, the diesel
38:18engines em- they will put out fine
38:21particle matters. These particles are so
38:24small that the human nose and upper
38:26respiratory system cannot filter them
38:29out. They travel deep into the lungs
38:33and enter the bloodstream triggering
38:35triggering asthma attacks, bronchitis,
38:38and chronic
38:40uh pulmonary disease. Okay, that that's
38:43true. Nitrogen oxide, these backup
38:47generators emit a bunch of that.
38:50We're not having natural gas over there.
38:52So, we're going to have a whole lot of
38:54diesel and a lot of those fumes are
38:56going to be coming out.
38:59Um
39:01These children are very vulnerable.
39:04Their developing respiratory systems
39:06because the children's lungs are still
39:08growing. Toxic exposure can permanently
39:12impair the lung capacity and function.
39:17Faster breathing rates, kids have that.
39:20The neurological developments
39:22risk
39:24indicate that fossil fuels emission from
39:26data center infrastructures are
39:28associated with the risk of ADHD. Are
39:32you familiar with that?
39:34It's a serious thing, okay?
39:38Not only that, the development delays in
39:41children. In children.
39:44Their their their development is going
39:46to be delayed.
39:48Chronic noise and sleep desperation,
39:51that is another thing. I mean, it is
39:53just one thing right after the other
39:56that that is going to do to this
39:58community. Let alone how it's going to
40:01disturb all of the roads out here.
40:06You know, the traffic, that's another
40:09very very thing that's going to happen.
40:13Um and we've also have the PFAS
40:17chemical contamination.
40:19Forever chemicals,
40:21these persistent pollutions do not break
40:24down in the environment. Any leak or
40:27disposal issues can lead to widespread
40:30contaminant of local drinking water.
40:32This has happened in Fayetteville, North
40:35Carolina. No, it it has happened.
40:38Do your research.
40:40Any leaks or disposal issues can lead to
40:43the drinking water being contaminated,
40:46uh immune system dysfunction, thyroid
40:49disease, and reproduction harm.
40:53Um
40:54in
40:55conclusion,
40:57the Forsyth Planning Board saw the
40:59dangers and voted
41:017 to 1. 7 to 2. 7 to 2, okay?
41:07To recommend denying the rezoning.
41:10The Drax Group, heavy industry with all
41:13of these generators, nonstop noise, and
41:15massive water draining completely
41:18violates
41:19>> Okay, I'm going to have to cut you
41:21short.
41:22>> forward plan.
41:25The only thing else I can say to you
41:27is the town of Rural Hall needs to back
41:31the Planning Board with 100%.
41:34And you all need to reverse your
41:37decision.
41:39Because the town
41:41wants that to happen.
41:43Think about it. Go into your meeting. Go
41:45into your room and do that tonight.
41:49>> [applause]
41:58>> Amber Rohaus.
42:01>> [snorts]
42:11>> You You have to give it to the clerk.
42:23>> All right, good evening.
42:25Um I am providing some emails that were
42:29provided to the town council and the
42:32mayor.
42:33Um and they should have been batched in
42:35with the last FOIA that was provided and
42:37they were not.
42:39Um so I am giving those to you now with
42:43the dates on it.
42:45Um I'm also here on behalf of Allison
42:48Wagner, who is a resident here in town
42:50hall or I'm sorry, in Rural Hall. She
42:53lives on 8000 Glade Street. She wanted
42:55me to read out her email.
42:58Um I do not support a data center in
43:01Rural Hall. In memory of my
43:03grandparents, Gilbert and Jerry
43:05Bodenheimer, I am here to voice my
43:07opposition to this horrible idea of a
43:10project. Iron Spur Prison is not welcome
43:14at 8000 Glade Street. I want the future
43:17of Rural Hall to remain rural and
43:19continue to be known as the garden spot
43:21of the world. There is no place for a
43:24data center here and I say no to a hyper
43:27scale data center in my backyard.
43:30And I also want to represent my mother,
43:33who lives at 8020 Glade Street. She is
43:36300 feet from the proposed site. Just
43:39like this home is, Allison Wagner's.
43:42And we do oppose that at our back door.
43:45Thank you so much.
43:47>> [applause]
43:59>> Matt Sinn.
44:07Good evening. My name is Matt Sinn, 61
44:09Firetruck Road. I was born and raised in
44:13Forsyth County.
44:14Thank you, mayor, council, staff, and
44:18fellow citizens for giving me some time
44:21to speak.
44:23Um first of all, we all gave the Pledge
44:25of Allegiance, one nation under God.
44:29Um Jesus told us
44:31"What you do unto the least of these,
44:33you do unto me." Not what you do for the
44:37corporations and the billionaires, you
44:40do unto Jesus.
44:42Now, you may believe, like several
44:45people, that artificial intelligence is
44:49your salvation.
44:50My salvation
44:52is the almighty intelligence. Okay? So,
44:57>> [applause]
44:58>> that's first of all.
45:00I'm not going to rehash what people
45:01hear, and I know y'all have very little
45:03control. Okay? This is about Don Martin,
45:07the county commissioners, the people in
45:10Raleigh, the people in DC, but it starts
45:14here. It starts with the people. It has
45:17to start somewhere. Okay?
45:20So,
45:21first of all,
45:23data center probably be around for 30
45:25years. Most of y'all be dead
45:28before the end of that. So, who are we
45:30making decisions for? No, seriously. We
45:33aren't making No, stop. Stop. Stop.
45:35[applause] Stop. I will probably be
45:37dead, too. But we are making decisions
45:40for the children who have no voice.
45:43Okay?
45:44Those
45:45under 18 cannot vote, so they have no
45:48voice. So, we as responsible adults have
45:51to consider what is best for them. Okay?
45:54So, we went on about health. Now, I want
45:58to refute a little bit about the money.
46:00Okay? You say you're doing this for
46:03financial reasons. Yes, I know. Um
46:05everybody's going through financial
46:07hardships. We're all paying more for
46:08food, for gas, everything.
46:11So, um what I want to say is
46:13um
46:15people say, "Oh, your property values
46:18are going to go up based on this." Um I
46:21really don't think so. Um plus, if your
46:24property value does go up, your tax uh
46:26bill goes up and um who's going to pay
46:29that price? Your house is only worth as
46:32much as somebody who's going to pay for
46:33it. And good luck finding somebody that
46:35wants to pay um
46:38for your retirement to live um
46:40across from a data center a data center.
46:43Okay, so [applause] we want to talk
46:45about uh electricity. Um
46:49so um it's well known that uh utilities
46:52are regulated. So, their only
46:54opportunity to significantly raise rates
46:57is when they increase infrastructure.
47:00And guess what? They're going to have to
47:01increase their infrastructure
47:04huge to um
47:07to uh allow for a buffer um for this
47:10data center because they don't want to
47:12have brownouts and get sued by these
47:15mega corporations. So, um guess what?
47:19Your your electric bill is going to go
47:22up. Uh no doubt about that.
47:24Um water, okay? We're in a drought.
47:27There's no doubt that. Anybody can see
47:29that we've uh experienced one of the
47:31driest years spring um summer so far. My
47:36garden's trash, okay, because uh even
47:39with me watering it. It it's trash. So,
47:43um the idea that's closed system and you
47:45only have to fill it up once, garbage.
47:47That water is going to evaporate and
47:49they're going to have new water and that
47:51ground water is going to be
47:52contaminated. You have a school right
47:54over there, air pollution. Who's going
47:56to pay when they get developed lung
47:58disease? Who's going to pay for all the
48:00asthma?
48:02Uh is is the corporation going to pay?
48:04Are are they? Are they going to buy out
48:06the whole town? Uh cuz that's the only
48:08way uh to guarantee uh the town's
48:11safety. Okay, so what can we do? We we
48:14got to go to the county commissioner
48:15meeting, express our disapproval. What's
48:18done is done. You all have reversed your
48:20decision. You are most likely not going
48:22to reverse it again. Okay, what's done
48:24is done.
48:25July 30th, 6:00 p.m. Pack that Forsyth
48:29County Commissioners meeting. Get there
48:31early. [applause]
48:32Contact all the press you can and tell
48:36them we oppose, okay? And guess what?
48:38Don Martin's retiring July 31st. Very
48:42convenient that he's retiring after the
48:44vote. So, make sure that you lean on him
48:46and say his legacy is based on this
48:49vote. And he he if he wants a positive
48:51legacy, he'll vote against. Now, okay,
48:54so what else can we do? Hold our
48:56representatives in Raleigh and D.C.
49:00accountable. Since 2016, all I've heard
49:03is it's going to be milk and honey over
49:05here. Manufacturing's coming back. We're
49:08going to have all this. We're going to
49:09have taxes on a postcard. Guess what?
49:12That happen hasn't happened. So, I blame
49:14the people in Raleigh, the people in
49:17Washington D.C. like multimillionaire
49:19Pat Harrigan who has failed to bring
49:22economic development to Forsyth County.
49:26And it's well known that Pat Harrigan
49:28has a distaste for Forsyth County. So,
49:30blame him and get him out of office cuz
49:33that's the first step. Okay, so again,
49:36we appreciate you all looking out and
49:39wanting the tax revenue, but guess what?
49:43The citizens are going to bear a lot.
49:46You say it's going to help the citizens,
49:49put it in writing. Put it in writing
49:51that their taxes are going down. Put it
49:53in writing that their houses are going
49:55to be able to be bought for the price
49:57that they want. Make that corporation
50:00put it in writing before they break
50:03ground. Because once they break ground,
50:06they're going to do everything they can,
50:08violate the EPA,
50:12Thank you.
50:12>> Thank you.
50:13>> [applause]
50:27>> All right. All that there's wanted to
50:28stop. That one won't stop.
50:36>> Carol Newsom.
50:51>> I am Carol Newsom, 8495 Broad Street.
50:56Transparency in government is essential
50:59to ensure public trust, prevent
51:01corruption, and to foster civic
51:04engagement, and to allow the citizens to
51:05hold their elected officials
51:07accountable.
51:08Transparency is essential to our
51:10democracy, a representative democracy,
51:13which can only function properly when
51:15our elected officials listen to the
51:17voices of the people
51:19that have entrusted in them the right to
51:21make decisions on their behalf.
51:23Our elected officials are expected to
51:25make their decisions based on the voice
51:27of the people, who need to be heard
51:29before any decision is made.
51:32The notice for the June 22nd, 2026
51:35special meeting stated that a discussion
51:38on Iron Spur data center would occur.
51:42At the special meeting, the council
51:43called a vote to rescind resolution
51:46number 901, and to replace it with
51:49resolution number 912. This was not made
51:53public in advance. Resolution number 912
51:56was never presented to the people in
51:59advance of the meeting. It was not read
52:02into the record at the meeting. In fact,
52:05just before the start of the meeting, I
52:07asked the clerk for the attachments
52:09listed on an agenda that was only made
52:11available at the meeting once getting
52:14here.
52:15I was denied the attachments and told by
52:17the clerk that the
52:19documents were not made public prior to
52:22the meeting
52:23and would not be made public until after
52:25the meeting. The council voted on
52:27resolution number 912 without presenting
52:30it in its entirety to the public. The
52:33people were not allowed the opportunity
52:35to know what the council was voting on
52:38voting for or against. The people were
52:41never allowed the opportunity to reach
52:44out to their elected officials to state
52:46how they wanted to be represented.
52:49This is a violation to open meetings and
52:52a lack of transparency from the council,
52:54a breach of trust.
52:57The council cannot represent the voice
53:00of the people if they do not allow the
53:02people to be heard.
53:04In addition to this violation to open
53:06meeting laws, the town of Rural Hall has
53:08violated public records laws by not
53:11providing public records in a timely
53:13manner if at all.
53:16I have outstanding public records
53:17requests going back to 2021.
53:21This week I was finally provided a
53:23document I had requested on February
53:2514th, 2025.
53:29A delay of just under 1 and 1/2 years.
53:33This represents a violation to public
53:35records and a lack of transparency from
53:37this government, a breach of trust.
53:41The town of Rural Hall has a history in
53:43violating open meetings laws, public
53:45records laws, as represented in the
53:48state auditor's 2022 findings documented
53:51in that report.
53:54The only way to instill trust in our
53:56government is for the government to do
53:59all of the people's business in an open
54:01and transparent manner.
54:04At this time I am unable to trust this
54:07administration and I have no confidence
54:09in their ability to govern. I thank
54:12Michael Woodcock for his vote with the
54:15resolution 912. Thank you.
54:19>> [applause]
54:28>> Joel Rice.
54:38>> Thank you, Mayor. Council.
54:41I guess y'all have had an interesting
54:42couple of weeks.
54:44Uh my name is Joel Rice and I am a
54:47resident of Rural Hall.
54:49I would like to thank the town council
54:51for your reversal to support the data
54:53center proposed to be built in Rural
54:56Hall.
54:57>> [clears throat and cough]
54:58>> I believe the tax benefits would be a
54:59tremendous boost to the towns and
55:02counties economical growth.
55:05The contractor
55:07has agreed to adhere or exceed the
55:09state's standards for data centers,
55:12which should satisfy any concerns about
55:14water, power usage,
55:17and noise that the data center produces.
55:20And I guarantee you it's not going to be
55:22as loud as that train going through my
55:23backyard every morning at 11:00, 2:00,
55:274:00, and 5:00.
55:30>> [clears throat]
55:30>> This is what I'm talking about.
55:33Yes, I
55:34I've been told that my opinion don't
55:36count because I'm friends with the
55:38sellers.
55:40Yes, the servers are my friends and why
55:43can't they have friends that stay loyal
55:45to them and speak up for them when they
55:48are being attacked by something anybody
55:51else in this room would do under the
55:54same circumstances.
55:56Why can't I have a difference of opinion
56:00without being labeled, "Oh, he is just a
56:02friend of the sellers."
56:04You're exactly right. I am a friend of
56:06the sellers and I respect your right to
56:08have a difference of opinion with me.
56:11Will you respect my right to have a
56:13difference of opinion with you?
56:16I know I am not going to change the mind
56:18of any of the opposition to this
56:20tonight.
56:22But regardless of how this ends up,
56:25can we be civil
56:27and show those watching that the town of
56:29Rural Hall can get along even through
56:32something as controversial as a data
56:35center?
56:37And somebody said something about
56:39property taxes going down. Have you ever
56:41I my taxes went up last year $100,000 in
56:44one pop.
56:46Have you ever heard the
56:47the property taxes going down in Forsyth
56:49County? It ain't never going to happen.
56:52And they want four So, the opposition
56:55wants 400 homes over here.
56:58Uh
57:00affordable homes.
57:02Can you imagine the problems that that
57:05is going to cause with traffic?
57:07And it's already been stated that the
57:09town can't supply
57:11the services it's going to take to have
57:13that done.
57:15So, thank y'all for y'all's reversal.
57:17Thanks for letting me speak.
57:20>> [applause]
57:31>> Jamie.
57:34>> Bishop Albert Sanders.
57:47>> Good evening
57:49to you all today.
57:51My name is Bishop Albert Saunders.
57:53I'm a bishop and a pastor here in the
57:55community.
57:56And I want you to know that I feel that
57:59this is a right move that we are moving
58:01in for the future of our family, our
58:03children, and our churches.
58:05If we look at this right now,
58:08time
58:10time is important.
58:12And we are in the right time and the
58:13right place. I think it's an honor
58:16that someone would choose Rural Hall
58:19to be able to
58:21handle this type of opportunity that's
58:24going to help the Versite County,
58:27uh our children, and our future.
58:30I think it's a blessing, and I support
58:32it.
58:33>> [applause]
58:36>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for this time. Um
58:39first off, my name is Albert O'Neal
58:40Saunders Jr.
58:42And um actually, I'm
58:45North Carolina's only
58:47We made history, by the way. the only
58:49black-owned AI software and robotics
58:52company in North Carolina.
58:58Now,
58:59when it comes down to the data centers,
59:01of course,
59:03with our position, of course, with the
59:04community, we would definitely see the
59:06need on it. But actually,
59:09talk with the developers,
59:12and we actually have a way we can solve
59:14the problems that y'all actually have,
59:17which is water usage,
59:20and power supply,
59:22and air quality.
59:24So, I'm going to work strongly and
59:25directly with the
59:27um
59:27so we can actually
59:29give back to the community and not just
59:31take away.
59:34That's all I got to say.
59:46>> [clears throat]
59:47>> I like to keep the uh, chatter down
59:50while the speakers are speaking. They
59:53uh,
59:56>> Okay, Susie Hawks.
59:59Sorry, Susan.
1:00:02I know I know you as Susie. I'm sorry.
1:00:07Hey everybody.
1:00:12Y'all want my name? Susan Hawks Gordon,
1:00:157430 Broad Street, Rural Hall. That's
1:00:18where I actually live.
1:00:21The data center, a hot topic.
1:00:23Yes.
1:00:24What is best for Rural Hall? We all have
1:00:27our own personal opinions. I know I'm
1:00:30not for the data center. After
1:00:32researching about the data centers from
1:00:35many sources where we have data centers
1:00:38already to people in other states where
1:00:41the data centers just a mile from where
1:00:44they live and going to a lot of
1:00:46meetings.
1:00:52I have researched that the data centers
1:00:54will bring lots of constant hum noise
1:00:58which y'all already got some tonight
1:01:00harmful to the autism community.
1:01:03The data center will use approximately
1:01:05600 gallons of water a day in the closed
1:01:09loop cooling system that is water and a
1:01:12cooling agent.
1:01:14Out of 100% of water
1:01:1670% evaporates and 30% return
1:01:22returns to the water and cooling agent,
1:01:25not able to be consumed.
1:01:30That's a lot of water and a lot of
1:01:31electricity. I hope there's some left
1:01:33over for us.
1:01:35Mayor Bennett, you always talked about
1:01:38keeping small town charm. You and the
1:01:40town council have let us down, not
1:01:43Michael.
1:01:44I am running I am for the small town
1:01:48charm, and I have lived in Rural Hall
1:01:50since I was 5 years old. I am not for
1:01:53the data center, and I will be running
1:01:55for the mayor in November. Thank y'all
1:01:58so much.
1:01:59>> [applause]
1:02:12>> DAPHNE PACE
1:02:14PACE
1:02:24>> HOW ARE YOU EVERYBODY DOING?
1:02:27I'm speaking on behalf cuz I I'm I don't
1:02:29want the data center here.
1:02:31>> Um
1:02:31>> We have
1:02:32>> Name and address.
1:02:33>> Daphne Pace, 520 Heather Town Line. I
1:02:35said right here.
1:02:36>> Uh I couldn't hear you for the record.
1:02:38>> Okay, I don't want the data center here.
1:02:40Number one, we have our older community
1:02:43that's here that's going to affect their
1:02:44health.
1:02:46It's going to affect my health. I'm
1:02:47stage four kidney failure.
1:02:50I don't need all them chemicals around
1:02:51here. It's going to affect the water.
1:02:54It's going to take our light bill up,
1:02:55our water bill up. It's going to take
1:02:57[clears throat] the property taxes up.
1:02:59We don't need that here. We have kids
1:03:01that play around out here that don't
1:03:03need it.
1:03:04These kids need better air quality. I've
1:03:08heard that from this lady here and some
1:03:10other people.
1:03:12Y'all got to understand
1:03:14our health is more important than that
1:03:16over there.
1:03:20I have a a 6-year-old grandson that
1:03:22plays when he come to my house. He don't
1:03:24need that cuz he have asthma and
1:03:26bronchitis like I do, too.
1:03:29Y'all need to think about that very
1:03:31carefully. I don't been doing my
1:03:33research.
1:03:34It's killing people.
1:03:36I seen on TV this morning where they
1:03:38have a data center and the little girl
1:03:40it really messed up her asthma. She
1:03:42died.
1:03:45And she her mom donated her organs and
1:03:47stuff. We don't need that out here.
1:03:50We don't. I'm sorry.
1:03:53Because like I said, I'm stage four
1:03:55kidney failure and I don't need it to
1:03:57affect me any more than what I am.
1:04:00So, would y'all please
1:04:04take that vote off from having that data
1:04:06data center out here?
1:04:08That's why I made this T-shirt, no data
1:04:10center, not in our backyard.
1:04:14>> [applause]
1:04:28>> Brad Watkins
1:04:31or Watson Watkins
1:04:42Sorry.
1:04:43>> Good evening everybody. Thank you for uh
1:04:44taking time to listen to us. Uh
1:04:47I come on behalf of North Forsyth Little
1:04:48League Little League at the uh school
1:04:50here.
1:04:51And basically what I come here tonight
1:04:53for was to see if we could open a
1:04:54dialogue about potentially getting some
1:04:56more resources
1:04:58>> Make sure you speak up.
1:05:01>> Is that better?
1:05:02>> Yes, that's good.
1:05:02>> All right.
1:05:03>> She won't be able to record you if you
1:05:04don't get down
1:05:06>> Um
1:05:07I come on behalf of Little League there
1:05:08at Rural Hall Elementary School North
1:05:09Forsyth Little League and I I come to
1:05:11see if we could maybe open a dialogue
1:05:13for future uh going forward about maybe
1:05:15obtaining some additional resources.
1:05:18Um we do appreciate the resources and
1:05:21everything the town provides to the
1:05:23league. It's a great benefit for the
1:05:24kids.
1:05:26Uh but like everybody else has said
1:05:28tonight, I you know, people are
1:05:30struggling a little bit and we're just
1:05:31seeing if maybe we could talk to the
1:05:33town about maybe
1:05:34getting some more resources for the
1:05:36league and the organization.
1:05:38So, thank you.
1:05:39>> All right.
1:05:40>> [applause]
1:05:45[applause]
1:05:50>> Mitchell Church.
1:05:57>> Good evening, Mr. Mayor, town council.
1:05:59Um
1:06:00my name is Mitchell Church. I live at
1:06:017802 Red Bank Road. That's over in
1:06:03Germanton.
1:06:05Um
1:06:06I I think I stated in my first time I
1:06:08came up here that
1:06:10um I don't live [clears throat] in the
1:06:11town limits of Rural Hall, but basically
1:06:13my family and I worship and do most of
1:06:15our shopping and eating out in Rural
1:06:17Hall. We I've loved Rural Hall all of my
1:06:19life
1:06:20and I am for the data center, much more
1:06:23I'm for the Surber family. Marty Surber
1:06:26has been called, I think, my best friend
1:06:28on the Independent Hall Monitor and I'm
1:06:30not sure everything on there was
1:06:31correct, but that was uh abundantly
1:06:33correct. Um I think the world of him,
1:06:37Julie, the whole crowd never been
1:06:38anything but nice to me
1:06:40and I wish them the very best
1:06:43as the data center moves forward. Um the
1:06:45developer has addressed many concerns.
1:06:47Uh last week we heard uh that
1:06:49Winston-Salem has an abundance of water
1:06:52supply for the data center. I think
1:06:53we're at 40% capacity
1:06:56as it stands, which leaves uh about 60%.
1:06:59Uh that's with the 600 the projected
1:07:02600,000 gallons per day, but I believe,
1:07:04if my memory serves me right, it was
1:07:05late when I was watching it online.
1:07:07But
1:07:08they said that was plenty, but I believe
1:07:10Mr. Fiske said that they were going to
1:07:12use 10% of that in a closed-loop system.
1:07:14I think that's what he said. Um I want
1:07:16to congratulate the town. Uh Rural Hall
1:07:18made a great decision to um change its
1:07:21resolution statement to ensure that if
1:07:24it is uh approved that Rural Hall and
1:07:26its citizens can get the full benefit of
1:07:29the data center. The 17-acre park I
1:07:32think is a great idea. 17 acres is a lot
1:07:34of land for a park. Um I don't know how
1:07:36big um
1:07:38the biggest park in town is, but I think
1:07:39this one's at least twice the size of
1:07:41that one.
1:07:42And I encourage anyone that's opposed to
1:07:44it, maybe take the trip over to Maiden,
1:07:46North Carolina and look at that one and
1:07:48how the town has uh done better since
1:07:50they got the data center. The revenue uh
1:07:53that Forsyth County will gain will
1:07:55significantly improve our public
1:07:56schools,
1:07:58our police departments, and help us
1:07:59overcome current challenges facing
1:08:02Winston-Salem and its surrounding towns.
1:08:04Love this town and um love you guys and
1:08:07thank you very much. Have a great night.
1:08:10>> [applause]
1:08:17[clears throat]
1:08:18>> Dan Barnaby.
1:08:29>> Good evening council, mayor.
1:08:30[clears throat]
1:08:30Thanks for having me.
1:08:32>> Um
1:08:32>> Check your microphone there.
1:08:34>> Dan Barnaby,
1:08:35438 Academy Street.
1:08:38Uh October 1st will be 5 years for me as
1:08:41a resident.
1:08:43Um I've enjoyed it so far.
1:08:46Um I like the small
1:08:49small-town atmosphere
1:08:51and I would hate to see that go away
1:08:53with a data center.
1:08:56Uh
1:08:57one of the things that I learned in my
1:08:58Navy career, 20 years in the sub force.
1:09:03The my customers,
1:09:05the work centers that I supported,
1:09:08all of them talked about proper form,
1:09:10fit, and function
1:09:12to make things work right the first time
1:09:15through.
1:09:21We we didn't like to have to do rework.
1:09:25Rework is expensive. It wastes
1:09:27resources. It wastes time
1:09:30and energy
1:09:32that a lot of organizations cannot
1:09:34afford to go through.
1:09:41Couple of months ago at the meeting
1:09:42here,
1:09:44when this status center was discussed,
1:09:47I didn't really It wasn't at the
1:09:48forefront of my mind.
1:09:51But I've observed events since then.
1:09:54And I have to be honest.
1:09:58It seems like annexation was held up as
1:10:01a carrot
1:10:03for you to bite at
1:10:05to change your minds.
1:10:10And what I'd like to know is what I
1:10:12asked a couple of months ago, is there
1:10:14an independent unbiased impact study
1:10:19for the status center
1:10:22that is made public so we have a high
1:10:26confidence factor
1:10:28and the right decision being made.
1:10:31Is that too much to ask for?
1:10:33I don't think it is.
1:10:38Um
1:10:40and um
1:10:43you know, I I don't want to approach my
1:10:446-minute mark.
1:10:47That's Thank you for letting me speak my
1:10:49peace tonight. Thank you.
1:10:51>> THANK YOU.
1:10:53>> [applause]
1:11:01[clears throat]
1:11:04>> MS. WEEHOUSE?
1:11:05>> THANK YOU.
1:11:06VERY WELL DONE.
1:11:09Good evening.
1:11:10Um it's a pleasure to um be here tonight
1:11:13to ask a question of all of you.
1:11:16confused
1:11:18I I need to just
1:11:19>> mic self
1:11:19>> You turned the mic off.
1:11:20>> But don't touch it cuz it'll cut
1:11:22>> Touch it again. Right there in the in
1:11:23the bottom at the base.
1:11:26Yeah.
1:11:26>> Okay, got it.
1:11:27>> go.
1:11:27>> Thank you. Let me just briefly read to
1:11:30you um two excerpts that lead to my
1:11:33question.
1:11:36So, in the beginning of June the Forsyth
1:11:39County Planning Board
1:11:41um came to the following conclusion. I
1:11:43read this so we are all on the same page
1:11:46literally.
1:11:47Despite the proposed mitigation measured
1:11:50and volunteered conditions, the scale
1:11:54and intensity of the development of the
1:11:57hyperscale data center still presents
1:12:00the potential for significant offsite
1:12:04impacts, which is inconsistent
1:12:07with the goals of Forward 2045
1:12:11related to minimizing impacts of
1:12:13non-residential
1:12:15development on surrounding properties.
1:12:18Staff concerns remain regarding
1:12:21potential operational noise. We heard um
1:12:25that noise earlier today firsthand
1:12:28associated with a facility. The visual
1:12:31impact of multiple buildings reaching
1:12:34heights of approximately 80 ft and we
1:12:37are really talking about 84 to 86 ft in
1:12:41height adjacent to residential areas and
1:12:45broader environmental and infrastructure
1:12:47considerations
1:12:49associated with this high-intensity
1:12:52development.
1:12:53Hyperscale data center, and let me
1:12:55correct um everybody um who spoke in
1:12:59favor of data centers, there's also an
1:13:01issue confusion because we talk about
1:13:04hyperscale data centers. This is a very
1:13:08important but um
1:13:10often neglected difference. So, we're
1:13:13talking about hyperscale data centers
1:13:16and they are known to use significant
1:13:18amounts of electricity and water. And
1:13:21staff also recognizes ongoing public
1:13:23concerns regarding utility demand,
1:13:26infrastructure capacity, and the
1:13:29potential effects of high levels of
1:13:32water and energy consumption. And we
1:13:33heard a lot about this today.
1:13:36Those impacts directly relate to the
1:13:38environmental justice recommendations
1:13:42that fourth
1:13:44in forward 2024.
1:13:46And this paragraph closes.
1:13:48The proposed data center development
1:13:52also represents a substantial change in
1:13:55area character that is not compatible
1:13:59with a low-density scale and small-town
1:14:03rural development pattern of the rural
1:14:05hall community. So, I want to make very
1:14:08clear, we are not against data centers
1:14:11and we are not against hyperscale data
1:14:13centers per se. What we are concerned
1:14:16about is the location.
1:14:19This is very very important. Also to our
1:14:21friends who are speaking for the data
1:14:24center, it's location, location,
1:14:27location. And this paragraph ends,
1:14:30"Based on these considerations,
1:14:32staff recommends denial of this
1:14:35request." Now, all of you have nothing
1:14:37to do with that, you're not the decision
1:14:38makers, but you do represent us and so
1:14:43um very shortly after this document,
1:14:46resolution 912 was born in a surprising
1:14:51way as
1:14:52Carol Newsom
1:14:54outlined in great detail. So, on this
1:14:57resolution, point four
1:15:00um states very clearly there are a lot
1:15:02of ifs and buts in the resolution, I
1:15:05think on purpose.
1:15:06But, point four states
1:15:09that town council reaffirms its
1:15:12commitment to carefully evaluating the
1:15:15potential impacts and benefits
1:15:18associated with a proposed development
1:15:21and to ensuring
1:15:23that the interests of Royal Hall
1:15:25residents remain the paramount
1:15:29consideration
1:15:30in any future deliberations.
1:15:34So, I ask all of you on this council,
1:15:37between the planning board's very
1:15:39carefully thought out and researched
1:15:42denial of the request, what have you
1:15:45learned that we don't know about?
1:15:49What is it? What new information that
1:15:52you have gotten that you don't mention
1:15:54here in any detail
1:15:57that we don't know about, but you know
1:15:58about and felt strongly enough to pass
1:16:01this resolution? That's where my
1:16:03confusion is, and I trust that you have
1:16:06done your homework. I assume something
1:16:09has happened between the planning
1:16:11commission's decision and your
1:16:14resolution that I feel we have a right
1:16:17to know.
1:16:19It's very straightforward, very simple.
1:16:22I know you have
1:16:24us believe that you are doing due
1:16:26diligence, and I'd simply ask you, show
1:16:28us. What do you know that we don't know?
1:16:31Thank you for your time.
1:16:34>> [applause]
1:16:43>> And Sherry Altman.
1:16:50>> Hello.
1:16:52Um I'm Sherry Altman. I live at 853
1:16:54Academy Street, Royal Hall.
1:16:57Um and I'm actually here to speak
1:17:00I'm sorry.
1:17:03>> Just move forward.
1:17:04>> This doesn't move any Oh, this part.
1:17:06Okay. All right.
1:17:07Sorry.
1:17:08Yes, I am short.
1:17:10Um can't do anything about that.
1:17:13So, um I'm following up actually on a
1:17:15similar topic that Carol Newsome uh
1:17:18discussed. Um I had recently sent a FOIA
1:17:21request as well for uh documents
1:17:23regarding to project Iron Spur going
1:17:26back and forth between the council from
1:17:29April 1st
1:17:31through the end of June.
1:17:33Um and actually Linette has been great
1:17:35in responding to my original request and
1:17:38follow-up questions that I had from what
1:17:41I got. So,
1:17:42um that that was very helpful.
1:17:45Um however, I was concerned when what I
1:17:48received, specifically as regards to
1:17:51comments by
1:17:53the public, whether it be people here or
1:17:56have never gone to a town hall meeting
1:17:57and have sent in an email or a letter.
1:18:00Um
1:18:01what I received were emails from two
1:18:04dates, the 20th and the 21st of June.
1:18:08Uh which I found very odd since
1:18:10obviously things going back to April
1:18:13would certainly have been filed sooner
1:18:16than the 20th and the 21st of June.
1:18:19Um
1:18:20and when I asked in a follow-up message
1:18:23to Linette, oh well,
1:18:25um you know, this is is odd and you
1:18:28know, when might might I receive these
1:18:30things,
1:18:31um I was told when they are provided to
1:18:35her.
1:18:36So, my question for everyone on the
1:18:39council,
1:18:41are people not providing to her
1:18:45communication they're receiving? What is
1:18:47the process for that? It seems very odd
1:18:50to me. I find it hard to believe that
1:18:51there's been no communication from
1:18:54citizens from April 1st to June 19th,
1:18:58and no communication from June 22nd to
1:19:00June 30th.
1:19:02But,
1:19:03about 10 or whatever emails on the 20th
1:19:05and the 21st. That just
1:19:08it just belies reality.
1:19:12So,
1:19:14that is my question. Um and again,
1:19:17following up on what Carol said, um
1:19:20transparency is important.
1:19:22And um
1:19:24the result that I received, getting only
1:19:272 days of letters of communications,
1:19:29rather, I think they were probably all
1:19:31emails, and nothing
1:19:33for um
1:19:3589 days worth,
1:19:37most of which were prior to those two
1:19:40dates, um is
1:19:43the to me the lack the epitome of lack
1:19:46of transparency.
1:19:48So,
1:19:49uh it's very hard to trust that I'm
1:19:51getting
1:19:52an honest output, and um
1:19:56I'd like to get some feedback at a later
1:19:59point, if I can, as to why that is. Cuz
1:20:03again, I find it hard to believe that
1:20:04nothing has been sent. That just seems
1:20:07implausible.
1:20:09Thank you.
1:20:12>> [applause]
1:20:19>> Hello.
1:20:21Okay.
1:20:24All right.
1:20:28Before we get into our meeting, uh um
1:20:31I want to um
1:20:33uh one of the uh Mayor Pro Tem Horn is
1:20:37not here tonight. He is on vacation.
1:20:40And I would entertain a motion to excuse
1:20:42him from
1:20:45our meeting tonight.
1:20:48>> I'll make a motion to excuse him from
1:20:50tonight's meeting.
1:20:52Mayor Pro Tem Horn.
1:20:54>> Okay.
1:20:55Uh motion has been made by Councilwoman
1:20:57Ring.
1:20:58>> Second.
1:20:59>> Seconded by Councilman Lane. All those
1:21:01in favor?
1:21:02>> Aye.
1:21:02>> Aye.
1:21:05>> Okay.
1:21:10We have put on here uh for and I went
1:21:13ahead and did this
1:21:14for the mayor's
1:21:16uh mayor and council members comments.
1:21:19And
1:21:21uh a lot of times uh and you know, we
1:21:23don't respond back and forth, but uh
1:21:27I heard a lot uh heard a lot tonight and
1:21:29I've heard a lot, so we always say we
1:21:31like to respond so or we may respond
1:21:34from previous
1:21:36meetings.
1:21:37And I want to highlight a few things.
1:21:41Um
1:21:43I'm going to start out with the facts.
1:21:47Um
1:21:48and I've said all along I like facts.
1:21:52Rumors are rumors.
1:21:54And hearsay is hearsay.
1:21:58And I'm also a show-me type person.
1:22:01Now, I'm going to get uh I will go ahead
1:22:03and tell you as I speak. I've gave I was
1:22:06cordial. I didn't speak out. I didn't
1:22:08get loud. I didn't clap or anything
1:22:12uh and interrupt you. So, I would hope
1:22:15you would uh show this council the same
1:22:18um
1:22:19also.
1:22:23I've heard a lot. I would like to ask
1:22:26the question, but I'm I'm not asking for
1:22:28an answer. It's just a question like
1:22:30when you ask uh who measured the decimal
1:22:33levels on that squalling noise that we
1:22:36got to hear?
1:22:37Um I will tell you it was about 73.
1:22:42Um
1:22:44Yes, I will tell you. I got a one right
1:22:46here.
1:22:48And uh
1:22:49>> [applause]
1:22:53>> I like facts.
1:22:58Oh.
1:23:00Because I knew that was um
1:23:02um
1:23:04would probably come up.
1:23:10I've had a lot of concerns about a dre-
1:23:12uh people contacting me or saying um
1:23:16and I'm I'll be honest with you. You I'm
1:23:18not getting much emails anymore. I
1:23:21wonder why.
1:23:23Would it be because Fox 8 posted them
1:23:26all over their news site?
1:23:29I wouldn't send you an email either.
1:23:32Would it be because the show posted them
1:23:35all over
1:23:36the Facebook page?
1:23:38I wouldn't if I was for it. I wouldn't
1:23:41either.
1:23:42I wouldn't want to be called out either.
1:23:43That's a fact.
1:23:50I have been said it has been said that I
1:23:53sold the town out.
1:23:57When have you seen me vote?
1:24:03The fact is I've never voted since I've
1:24:06been elected. That means we don't have a
1:24:08split board.
1:24:14By saying that I sold you out in this
1:24:16council is uh only did it because of the
1:24:19mayor, you're you're
1:24:21I don't know what the words would be,
1:24:24but I think they have more character
1:24:26than that to set up here and say that I
1:24:29told them how to vote and they voted my
1:24:32way.
1:24:35>> [clears throat]
1:24:36>> Part of my job is is go out and get
1:24:38information.
1:24:39I submit it.
1:24:41This council goes out and gets a lot of
1:24:43their own information.
1:24:47I think I saw or someone sent a
1:24:50a screenshot that um
1:24:54a GoFundMe page for t-shirts and all.
1:24:57Could I challenge y'all maybe
1:25:00to get a tour bus or maybe few, maybe
1:25:04take three in here and go to Maiden,
1:25:07North Carolina.
1:25:11>> [applause]
1:25:11>> You want to see facts? Okay.
1:25:15I see a lot of head shaking because you
1:25:17don't want facts.
1:25:21I told you I will not Hey.
1:25:34It's a hyper scale. Microsoft is hyper
1:25:37scale.
1:25:38Let me Let me say my piece.
1:25:46There's a lot of people that's been
1:25:48there.
1:25:49And it's like checked it out. The news
1:25:51doesn't want to check it out.
1:25:54I brought a newspaper from the town. It
1:25:57just came out actually the day I was
1:25:59there. It tells you about 75 to 80% less
1:26:02water. We're going to present that
1:26:05article after here. You won't see and I
1:26:08don't know why. I would
1:26:11I would uh
1:26:13challenge some of the local news to
1:26:15visit Hickory and see why Catawba County
1:26:19is about data centers. Now, you ask me,
1:26:23how do I know?
1:26:25I went there.
1:26:27I spent all afternoon there. I toured
1:26:29the town.
1:26:31I toured around every one of these
1:26:34sites.
1:26:35I got up out of the car. I walked and it
1:26:38wasn't just me. It was Councilman Lane.
1:26:41We got out of the car. We took the tour
1:26:44around the town escorted around town by
1:26:47the town manager.
1:26:51And I he he can tell you a few things
1:26:54about it. I'm I'm just presenting you
1:26:55facts.
1:26:58I never heard any humming. There is
1:27:00houses. There is a fire station right
1:27:02next door. Probably the fence line is
1:27:06about from here to halfway in the
1:27:09audience there.
1:27:10I walked up to the fence. Once you all
1:27:12the noise of the traffic was down, it
1:27:15was quiet.
1:27:18I encourage you.
1:27:19Why are you getting all this information
1:27:22from Virginia?
1:27:26Texas?
1:27:29Why are we not getting some of this
1:27:30information from North Carolina? If you
1:27:32want want me to listen to a buzzing
1:27:35noise, why don't you go to one in North
1:27:37Carolina? Don't you know you say there's
1:27:39not anything like this.
1:27:44Catawba County has it.
1:27:47They're actually getting their second
1:27:49one. Anybody Apple has been there for 16
1:27:52years.
1:27:54They have added on, getting ready to add
1:27:57more.
1:28:00And
1:28:01I have to I'm a I'm a
1:28:03go and see person.
1:28:08You say I don't present the facts.
1:28:10If I do present the facts, something
1:28:13wrong with the facts.
1:28:15So,
1:28:15I encourage you to go yourself.
1:28:18It's very simple. It's an hour and 29
1:28:21minutes. It's a nice little drive.
1:28:24And I question where we get sometimes we
1:28:28talk about rural. Keep Rural Hall rural.
1:28:34There's nothing rural about Rural Hall.
1:28:38Tell me about it. Let me tell you it
1:28:40Look up the definition rural. We have
1:28:42Interstate
1:28:43Rural Hall Bethany Road and Interstate
1:28:45Broad Street.
1:28:47Two main streets that run through town.
1:28:50They are pretty much bypasses through
1:28:52our town.
1:28:54And when 52 over here is shut down,
1:28:58we are detour.
1:29:01You're going to hear me talk a little a
1:29:03lot about Maiden.
1:29:04You want to see rural?
1:29:06Go to Maiden. How many people live in
1:29:08Maiden? 3,800. It's almost the same size
1:29:11as Rural Hall.
1:29:15That is rural.
1:29:16You get off a uh Interstate 40 and you
1:29:21uh right outside of Hickory and head
1:29:23over,
1:29:24you know you're in the rural part of the
1:29:26country.
1:29:30I have heard about the noise. I've heard
1:29:32about the vibrating.
1:29:35I encourage you. Call the town man Well,
1:29:39I don't know but because he'd probably
1:29:40get flooded. But if you go up there and
1:29:43ask anyone,
1:29:46the cows were walking next to the fence
1:29:48line.
1:29:49A huge church was right there along the
1:29:52fence line. And lo and behold, they
1:29:54built a Hardee's
1:29:56of all things right on the fence line
1:29:59around Microsoft data center.
1:30:04Now, what does that tell me?
1:30:09You can come back and tell me it's
1:30:11different.
1:30:13And I'll agree with you. Virginia is not
1:30:15a central alley. They've got the most uh
1:30:19I could sit here and probably tell Well,
1:30:21I know I could tell you in a few
1:30:22minutes, but y'all may have a lot of
1:30:24this information comes from them.
1:30:27Uh
1:30:28I I get uh I was getting emails that
1:30:31sent me videos. All of them were across
1:30:33the country.
1:30:35None of them were in North Carolina or
1:30:37South Carolina.
1:30:38I visited eight.
1:30:41How many have you visited?
1:30:43Everyone I Every time I visit Oh, it's
1:30:44not the same.
1:30:46It's not the same.
1:30:47>> You have to look at the signs.
1:30:48>> They I I know what I'm looking for. I
1:30:51wasn't born yesterday.
1:30:55I've been here since the early '60s,
1:30:57probably before you could spell
1:30:59transparency.
1:31:06And uh you know what?
1:31:12I'm just telling I'm asking you.
1:31:14If you're going to go, and I said it
1:31:16before, and I was accused of schooling.
1:31:19You go before the county commissioners.
1:31:21I guarantee you they've done their
1:31:22homework.
1:31:24>> Yes, they have.
1:31:24>> Um
1:31:25>> Yes, they have.
1:31:27>> I can tell you for sure. You want to
1:31:30talk about our schools. Let's talk about
1:31:32what a little bit of has happened in
1:31:33Rolesville Hall.
1:31:35Rolesville Hall Elementary School, I
1:31:37went there. I went to Northwest, went to
1:31:39North.
1:31:42Rolesville School is getting ready to go
1:31:44under 400 students. Now, anybody that's
1:31:47lived in this town and was back there in
1:31:49the '60s and '70s know what the
1:31:52enrollment it was.
1:31:54We're losing a lot of our enrollment.
1:31:57Our town was incorporated in 1974.
1:32:02I can tell you the banks have left, the
1:32:04grocery stores have left. I've heard we
1:32:06let's get a shopping center. Nobody
1:32:08wants to hear this because it's not the
1:32:11perfect story.
1:32:14This land across the road is going to be
1:32:16developed.
1:32:19And I know what the planning board said.
1:32:22Be careful what you wish for.
1:32:26And do you really want 350 homes there?
1:32:33I'm sure
1:32:39Well,
1:32:40uh it will be all clear cut and go
1:32:42through. But yes, anything but a data
1:32:44center
1:32:46is what I've heard. Okay.
1:32:52Listen, I'm I'm going to finish.
1:32:58I'm just giving you some suggestions.
1:33:05But I would go to Maiden because they've
1:33:08got data centers and
1:33:11and I would refer some of you to go back
1:33:14and listen to
1:33:16the meeting of the commissioners
1:33:20briefing that they had and get some of
1:33:22the correct information. It's not
1:33:23600,000 gallons a day. That's over a
1:33:272-week period and it would take less
1:33:30than 1% of the water.
1:33:33I just want you to It is all It's right
1:33:37there on YouTube.
1:33:39You can do that.
1:33:42When has how many people in here
1:33:45protested for the Love's truck stop to
1:33:47go in?
1:33:50Oh, okay. I I knew there was some.
1:33:53That was a huge protest. How many of you
1:33:55pro- protested for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco
1:33:57Company in 1983.
1:34:00All the smoke, the pollution, the
1:34:01electricity, and all.
1:34:04Okay?
1:34:05How many of you protested for the
1:34:07Westinghouse is right over here off of
1:34:09Tobacco Road because they had to change
1:34:11the road around some.
1:34:14Um
1:34:18What I'm saying is
1:34:20anything that goes there is going to be
1:34:23protested.
1:34:24Guaranteed.
1:34:26>> Um Maiden is 60% [snorts]
1:34:28solar powered, just so y'all know if you
1:34:30like facts.
1:34:3260%.
1:34:33>> I would encourage you to go up there.
1:34:34They have a 80-acre solar farm. If you
1:34:37don't quit interrupt If you don't quit
1:34:39interrupt me, I will
1:34:41have Corporal Collins take you out. This
1:34:43is not the Independent Hall Monitor.
1:35:04And one of the thing last thing Well, I
1:35:06I see she's got to
1:35:09But I'm going to say and turn it over to
1:35:12uh uh Councilman Lane, uh Councilman
1:35:14Woodcock, and Councilman uh Councilwoman
1:35:18Ring.
1:35:19There's one thing another fact I want to
1:35:21make it
1:35:23pretty darn simple. Homer Dearman did
1:35:26not steal the awnings.
1:35:33>> [applause]
1:35:34>> Okay.
1:35:35>> Attaboy, Homer.
1:35:38Attaboy, Homer.
1:35:41>> All right, any any uh
1:35:44Councilman Lane, you were and uh I'll
1:35:46let you back up a little bit. You You
1:35:48said in the same thing, rode around the
1:35:50town of Maiden. You seen the solar farm.
1:35:54Uh You saw the entrances to all the
1:35:56place.
1:35:58What
1:35:59What did you see?
1:36:04>> Well, I saw an awful lot of
1:36:06benefit
1:36:07from it. But besides the the
1:36:10financial aspect of it.
1:36:13Uh the town manager did mention to us
1:36:16that initially there was
1:36:19controversy and dispute just like we're
1:36:21we're experiencing here.
1:36:23Um
1:36:24>> please.
1:36:24>> They addressed it Apple
1:36:26>> We can't hear
1:36:27>> Apple
1:36:28addressed
1:36:30the the community concerns. They
1:36:32actually acquired a few of the homes
1:36:34that persistent uh question about either
1:36:37traffic or noise.
1:36:40But the interesting thing was after it
1:36:42got implemented
1:36:44there was no further
1:36:46comments to the negative of it.
1:36:49And
1:36:51once Microsoft came and proposed the
1:36:53same thing but on a much grander scale
1:36:56which they're under construction now
1:36:59not hearing a single complaint other
1:37:01than
1:37:02some of the agitators or activists
1:37:04around the country but nobody local.
1:37:09So it tells me
1:37:13it's not as bad
1:37:15as the fear we're all trying to stoke.
1:37:18I'm not going to sit here and say it's
1:37:20100% perfect.
1:37:22No way. Nothing's 100%. But I think
1:37:25we're all taking it a little bit to the
1:37:27extreme.
1:37:29The facts
1:37:30as Mayor Bennett says,
1:37:33I would encourage you once again the
1:37:35YouTube video of the commissioner's
1:37:37briefing recently.
1:37:39They addressed the water issues.
1:37:43Uh they will be addressing the power
1:37:45electrical issues
1:37:47on the next briefing coming up what the
1:37:4827th I believe.
1:37:50>> I think it
1:37:50>> from Duke Energy.
1:37:53Um they've got their ducks in a row.
1:37:55They're addressing the the citizens
1:37:57questions and problems.
1:37:59Uh once again, it's not going to be
1:38:00100%.
1:38:03Uh and I just think once again, we keep
1:38:05hearing people saying let's get our
1:38:06facts and and
1:38:07how true, let's get our facts. They're
1:38:09out there.
1:38:11Uh very good resources and the
1:38:12commissioners for Forsyth County whether
1:38:14they vote yes or no or whoever.
1:38:17I can assure you just like Mayor Bennett
1:38:18said,
1:38:19they preceded us in that visit.
1:38:22They are doing their research as well
1:38:24due diligence. That doesn't mean they're
1:38:26agreement.
1:38:28But you can rest assured you got some
1:38:30good elected officials that they are
1:38:31doing their due diligence
1:38:33um for the constituents of Forsyth
1:38:36County. So feel good about that.
1:38:39Um
1:38:42But some other people have mentioned it.
1:38:43Let's let's come together as community
1:38:45and stop the the hatred that's been
1:38:47erupting around here.
1:38:49>> [applause]
1:38:49>> We're
1:38:50We're all better.
1:38:52We're all better than this.
1:38:56We're all better than this.
1:39:04There was a solar farm there.
1:39:08Well, you're not going to find one
1:39:09completely comparable to
1:39:12Well,
1:39:13and you can rest your case on that
1:39:15you're saying it's going to be a lot of
1:39:16noise and we don't know that.
1:39:20Okay.
1:39:21All right.
1:39:22The
1:39:3350 50 decimals, that's what they're
1:39:35going to have to be. From my
1:39:37understanding, they're going to come
1:39:38back and and um try to meet the 50
1:39:42decimals instead of the 60 at the next
1:39:44meeting. Council
1:39:46uh
1:39:47Woodcock
1:39:48I mean Councilman Woodcock uh
1:39:52Councilman Woodcock, I was thinking of
1:39:54you and looking at Anita, but I was
1:39:55actually looking trying to look at you
1:39:57for a minute. But
1:39:58>> Um just a quick question to see if we
1:40:01could maybe ask staff to reach out to
1:40:04Yadkin Valley Railroad or Hilco or both
1:40:07to see if they'd be interested in coming
1:40:08in in one of these sessions to answer
1:40:10some of the community concerns about
1:40:12safety, security
1:40:14any any any questions the community may
1:40:16have and give them a chance to reach out
1:40:18to us. We can ask
1:40:20um
1:40:23just open up a conversation to
1:40:27>> Okay.
1:40:29Yeah.
1:40:31All right.
1:40:36Any other comments? Any comments?
1:40:40No? Okay. All right. Let's move right
1:40:43along and uh
1:40:46with our
1:40:47actual meeting.
1:40:49You have your consent agenda.
1:40:51Um
1:40:53all of you've had an opportunity to look
1:40:55over the minutes. I would entertain a
1:40:57motion as soon as you're ready.
1:41:01>> Mayor, I make a motion we approve the
1:41:03minutes of the June 8th, 2026 regular
1:41:06council special meeting.
1:41:08And do I need to go ahead and include
1:41:10>> 22nd special meeting
1:41:11>> Yes. Yes.
1:41:13>> So be it. It's included.
1:41:14>> Okay.
1:41:15We have a motion for the consent agenda
1:41:18for the minutes
1:41:20by Councilman Lane.
1:41:23>> Second.
1:41:23>> Second by Councilman Woodcock. Any
1:41:26further discussion? Seeing none, all
1:41:29those in favor?
1:41:30>> I.
1:41:30>> I.
1:41:31>> Okay.
1:41:34Moving right along in our new business,
1:41:36first item coming up um
1:41:39is a uh
1:41:40is it uh well, let's do the certificate
1:41:42of satisfaction deed um
1:41:45uh town manager Dearman.
1:41:47>> Thank you, Mayor.
1:41:48Council, these two items are really
1:41:50administrative in nature and um but they
1:41:52are time sensitive, which is why I asked
1:41:54that they be added to tonight's agenda.
1:41:57The first one is a certificate of
1:41:59satisfaction of deed of trust that our
1:42:01town attorney has adopted or excuse me,
1:42:03drafted um regarding [clears throat] a
1:42:05property
1:42:06um
1:42:07owned by William and Elizabeth Hairston.
1:42:10And we're asking Council tonight to
1:42:11consider authorizing the Mayor to
1:42:13execute a certificate of satisfaction
1:42:16for a deed of trust recorded in Forsyth
1:42:18County by the Hairstons in 1984.
1:42:22This deed of trust secured a
1:42:23rehabilitation loan made by the Town of
1:42:25Rural Hall in the original amount of
1:42:26$14,225
1:42:29to the Hairstons as a part of a program
1:42:31at that time.
1:42:33During a recent title examination, the
1:42:35Hairstons' heirs discovered that the
1:42:37deed of trust remains recorded against
1:42:39the property
1:42:40despite the passage of over 40 years.
1:42:42They were not aware of it at all. Their
1:42:44parents are long since gone
1:42:46but this held up the title.
1:42:48Following a review by our town attorney,
1:42:50the town has no record of any
1:42:52outstanding balance or indebtedness
1:42:55or remaining obligation associated with
1:42:56this loan.
1:42:58Uh but furthermore, any applicable
1:43:00statutes of limitation that govern the
1:43:02collection of this debt or enforcement
1:43:04of the lien have long since expired and
1:43:06you can probably speak more to that than
1:43:09I can if you have particular questions
1:43:10of that, but with a debt that's over 40
1:43:13years old, we can no longer statutorily
1:43:15collect it anyway.
1:43:17Um so, no legally enforceable obligation
1:43:19remains from the homeowner.
1:43:21Approval of this action would authorize
1:43:23the Mayor to execute the certificate of
1:43:25satisfaction so that the deed of trust
1:43:27can be canceled in the Forsyth County
1:43:29Register of Deeds Office.
1:43:31This action will clear the property's
1:43:32title by removing an obsolete
1:43:33encumbrance
1:43:35that no longer has any ill Excuse me, no
1:43:38longer has any legal effect.
1:43:40There is no financial impact to the
1:43:42town. The action does not forgive any
1:43:43existing debt or release any collectible
1:43:45funds. Rather, it acknowledges that no
1:43:48enforceable obligation remains and
1:43:50allows the public record to accurately
1:43:52reflect that fact.
1:43:54So, we are recommending this evening
1:43:55that you authorize the mayor to execute
1:43:57the certificate of satisfaction in
1:43:59accordance with North Carolina law,
1:44:01allowing that outdated deed of trust to
1:44:03be canceled.
1:44:07>> Okay, any questions?
1:44:09Okay, I would entertain a motion for
1:44:14certificate of satisfaction of deed of
1:44:17trust to be
1:44:19waived and signed by me.
1:44:25>> I'll motion.
1:44:27>> Motion made by Councilman Woodcock.
1:44:30>> Second.
1:44:30>> Second by Councilman Lane.
1:44:33Any further discussion?
1:44:36Seeing none, all those in favor?
1:44:38>> Aye.
1:44:38>> Aye.
1:44:40>> Okay, motion carries. Next item um
1:44:44is the contract agreement um
1:44:47the um this is the NC Office of the
1:44:50State Budget and Management Grant
1:44:52Agreement. Again,
1:44:54uh Manager Dearman.
1:44:56>> Thank you, Mayor. Council, this is
1:44:57another um
1:44:59administrative item that is time
1:45:01sensitive. The email uh is attached to
1:45:04the documentation that I provided
1:45:06from Amy Perry, who is the grants
1:45:08administrator with the Office of Budget
1:45:10and um Management uh regarding a
1:45:13contract extension for our grant for the
1:45:16fire station.
1:45:17As the council will recall, we uh
1:45:19received a grant from the state for the
1:45:21construction of the fire station
1:45:23back in 2023.
1:45:26Um the North Carolina General Assembly
1:45:28appropriated grant funding through
1:45:30session law 2023
1:45:32-134
1:45:34for the next two fiscal years.
1:45:37The original grant agreement established
1:45:39a performance period that ended June 30,
1:45:412026.
1:45:43Uh,
1:45:44prior to that there was another
1:45:45extension um, from August, excuse me,
1:45:47October 3rd, 2025.
1:45:50In 2026, the General Assembly adopted
1:45:53session law 2026-1
1:45:57extending the deadline for expenditure
1:45:59of these funds through June 30, 2027.
1:46:02We've already spent the funds. We've
1:46:03already turned in our paperwork. I
1:46:05inquired with the Office of State Budget
1:46:07and Management about that and they said,
1:46:09"Even if you're already done with your
1:46:11grant, we're still requiring an updated
1:46:14grant agreement because
1:46:16the General Assembly changed the law and
1:46:17requires a new agreement." Uh, so that's
1:46:20not something that I would just sign and
1:46:21send back. It does require your
1:46:23approval. And I'm asking that you
1:46:25authorize me to execute the amendment
1:46:27with North Carolina Office of State
1:46:28Budget and Management preserving the
1:46:30town's ability to utilize grant funds
1:46:32through June 30, 2027
1:46:35consistent with the changes enacted by
1:46:36the General Assembly.
1:46:38>> Right then.
1:46:39Entertain a [clears throat] motion.
1:46:47>> I'll make a motion to authorize the town
1:46:49manager to execute a revision to the
1:46:52grant agreement with the North Carolina
1:46:54Office of State Budget and Management.
1:46:57>> We have a motion by
1:46:59Councilwoman Ring.
1:47:00>> Second.
1:47:01>> Seconded by Councilman Lane. Any further
1:47:03discussion?
1:47:05Seeing none, all those in favor?
1:47:07>> Aye.
1:47:07>> Aye.
1:47:07>> Aye.
1:47:08>> Motion carries.
1:47:10Okay, moving right along.
1:47:14Um,
1:47:15Covington Park presentation. Uh, Withers
1:47:19um, um,
1:47:20Revell
1:47:21>> Revenue.
1:47:21>> Revell.
1:47:23>> Thank you, Mayor. We have a couple of
1:47:24>> I was going to say they were here.
1:47:26>> folks here this evening from Withers
1:47:27Ravenel, who is the um
1:47:29firm that we are working with under the
1:47:31Partis grant on the phase one Covington
1:47:34Park improvements. Um as part of the
1:47:38project, Withers has completed the
1:47:40initial schematic design process for the
1:47:42phase one playground improvements.
1:47:44And they are here tonight to share some
1:47:46of their
1:47:47um work with you all and to garner some
1:47:50feedback from you all. So, hopefully you
1:47:51have already taken a look at the
1:47:53information in your packet. But they do
1:47:55have a presentation prepared for you and
1:47:57at this time I'd like to introduce John
1:47:59Courtney,
1:48:00who is the Parks and Recreation Director
1:48:02for Withers Ravenel,
1:48:04and Jen Dolan, who is Withers Ravenel's
1:48:06landscape design guru.
1:48:08Um we are glad to have both of them here
1:48:10and appreciate their time uh spent with
1:48:13us this evening. So, John, thank you.
1:48:14Jen, thank you.
1:48:16>> Thank you, Homer, Mr. Mayor, and council
1:48:18members. Thank you for this opportunity
1:48:19to um present where we are with the
1:48:23conceptual design um and the preliminary
1:48:25design for this uh wonderful project to
1:48:29revitalize uh Memorial Covington
1:48:31Memorial Park for you. Um
1:48:34We have a brief presentation. Um as
1:48:37Homer said, I am the Director of Parks
1:48:39and Recreation for Withers Ravenel, and
1:48:41Jen here is a landscape designer. Um
1:48:44yes, she is a design guru.
1:48:46And uh together we've been working with
1:48:48staff and we've really appreciated the
1:48:49opportunity uh to work with the public's
1:48:52depart- uh public works department and
1:48:53with staff to get us to where we are
1:48:55tonight. Let's go to the next slide. Um
1:48:58briefly we'll um we won't take too much
1:49:00of your time. Uh we'll just show you
1:49:02some of the existing conditions of the
1:49:04site, um and really sort of bring you up
1:49:07to speed with where we are uh on the
1:49:09master planning of the project and all
1:49:12the public engagement. Um so, you can
1:49:14see how the designs that we're going to
1:49:16show you uh reflect the the wants and
1:49:19the needs of the community. Um and then
1:49:22that is translated into a program that
1:49:24you'll see that's that's what will be
1:49:26doing what your folks will be doing in
1:49:28the park. Um and then and then some some
1:49:30color design sketches for the the design
1:49:33of the project. And then I'll follow it
1:49:35up at the end with um
1:49:37where we are on the funding part of it
1:49:39and the costs part of it or the money
1:49:41the money part of it. So we're just here
1:49:43representing a larger team at Withers
1:49:46Ravenel.
1:49:48Um we couldn't all be here tonight but
1:49:50Jen and I have the pleasure of being
1:49:52able to present what we have for you.
1:49:54And so what if you flip to the next
1:49:56slide we'll get to the um
1:49:58existing conditions. There you go Jen.
1:50:00>> Yes so I have been working on this
1:50:02project since 2023 and one really
1:50:06fantastic thing is we know that Memorial
1:50:08Park is beloved by the community. Every
1:50:10time we've come to visit there's been
1:50:12someone walking on the walking trail or
1:50:14a a grandparent pushing their child or
1:50:17grandchild on a swing. So we know that
1:50:20there are a lot of really wonderful
1:50:21things about the existing conditions on
1:50:23site. And when we started our master
1:50:25planning efforts we were just thinking
1:50:27about how can we improve this space in
1:50:29this lovely resource for the community.
1:50:31Next slide please.
1:50:33So as I mentioned the master planning
1:50:35efforts have been going on since fall of
1:50:372023.
1:50:39We spent a lot of the time speaking to
1:50:41the community and working alongside town
1:50:43leadership in order to come up with a
1:50:45design for Memorial Park and a two other
1:50:48sites within Rural Hall.
1:50:51This was the master plan for the revital
1:50:53revitalization. So this is our big
1:50:55vision.
1:50:57And we also worked alongside our grant
1:50:59funding
1:51:01allocation team so that we could help
1:51:04get funds for the project and Part F did
1:51:07approve
1:51:09our project funding. So there is a match
1:51:11and John will talk about that later in
1:51:12the presentation.
1:51:15So, speaking to the public engagement,
1:51:17we had two public meetings, one in this
1:51:20room, and the other just outside this
1:51:22building for the Christmas tree
1:51:23lighting. Um we also had a community
1:51:26advisory board that we met with
1:51:28periodically to make sure that all of
1:51:30the input that we were hearing was
1:51:32actually being applied in a way that
1:51:34makes sense for the community at large.
1:51:36And we also hosted two online surveys
1:51:39throughout this process. So, it was
1:51:41really important to us to include um
1:51:44public input to the design because it's
1:51:47in y'all's back backyard.
1:51:50So, we ultimately ended up with
1:51:52programming that includes an improved
1:51:55and enlarged playground. There would be
1:51:57an upper play plaza, a lower play plaza,
1:52:00and some embankment play.
1:52:02A American Ninja style challenge course
1:52:06and more fitness focused. And then a
1:52:08small plaza for families to picnic and
1:52:11enjoy the space all together.
1:52:15So, this is the design that we have
1:52:17landed on through schematic design. Um
1:52:19as I mentioned, you have a pretty
1:52:21expansive play area with plenty of
1:52:24places to sit, benches, and um really at
1:52:27the end of the day accessibility and
1:52:30having accessible access to the space
1:52:32was really, really key to our design
1:52:33process.
1:52:36So, before we get into all the
1:52:38nitty-gritty about the playground
1:52:40equipment, we're still working alongside
1:52:42our playground designer. So, these are
1:52:44just some examples. We kind of like the
1:52:46idea of like mix and match from these
1:52:49ideas of equipment. We did work with
1:52:52Berliner, and they do more rope play.
1:52:54So, it's less prescriptive play
1:52:56equipment and a little bit more uh
1:52:58engaging and interactive for um members
1:53:01of the community of all ages and all
1:53:03ability levels. So, this is one layout
1:53:05here
1:53:06that is primarily rope play and slides.
1:53:10In the next slide, we have again more
1:53:13rope play, but it's more of a linear
1:53:15feature throughout that connects two
1:53:16towers.
1:53:18And then finally, we also wanted to
1:53:20provide an example of some more
1:53:22traditional play equipment that we're
1:53:23used to seeing. Um, and I also uh wanted
1:53:27to mention that we know that the swing
1:53:28set is one of the most well-loved piece
1:53:31of equipment, so we wanted to make sure
1:53:32that we have swings in every uh
1:53:34iteration.
1:53:38And finally, our challenge course. So,
1:53:40this would be kind of a circuit
1:53:41approach, but um again, you know,
1:53:44children and older folks alike can go
1:53:47use these um pieces of equipment in
1:53:49circuit or, you know, if you really like
1:53:52the frog hop, you can hang out there.
1:53:55And I will pass it on to John to talk
1:53:57about the the numbers.
1:53:58>> Yeah, the um
1:54:00these are how the numbers break down
1:54:01right now. The playground and the
1:54:03associated surfacing underneath it and
1:54:06the footings, um and access to it is is
1:54:09around $425,000.
1:54:12The challenge course and all of its
1:54:13associated uh surfacing and some signage
1:54:17to explain to
1:54:18to the public, you know, how to use it,
1:54:20um you know, kind of the circuits effect
1:54:22of it, uh around $155,000.
1:54:26The site work to be able to grade,
1:54:27there's a lot of topography on this
1:54:28site, so there'll be some earthwork that
1:54:31will need to be done so that we can um
1:54:34get the grades to work and get the
1:54:35access to work and and be able to
1:54:38utilize the parking that's there.
1:54:40Um, and then there's some soft costs and
1:54:43some contingency added in there so that
1:54:45you can be sure that, you know, on bid
1:54:47day you're you're you're having bids
1:54:49that come in at the number that we need
1:54:51it to be at. So, total is around uh 1.2
1:54:54almost 1.3 million. Um, and that's
1:54:57pretty close to on the next slide where
1:54:59our budget is right now. The part of
1:55:01funding um is has been approved by the
1:55:06public the Parks and Recreation
1:55:09Recreation Trust Fund of North Carolina.
1:55:12So that's a half a million dollar
1:55:15total sum of money that comes to the
1:55:17town and to get that the town had to
1:55:19match
1:55:21um the $775,000.
1:55:24So [clears throat]
1:55:25what we're doing is spending you know
1:55:27the town's money wisely and using that
1:55:29grant for the for the benefit of the
1:55:31community
1:55:32and so that's the the presentation that
1:55:35we have. Um
1:55:37I would say you'll probably ask me when
1:55:40would be the grand opening of it right
1:55:41cuz that's usually the first question is
1:55:43okay when can we get this built? And the
1:55:46answer is um
1:55:48we'll be finishing up the the working
1:55:49drawings for this in the summer um and
1:55:53then we'll probably go into permitting
1:55:56towards the in the fall.
1:55:58And then bidding can happen around
1:56:01November December
1:56:03and then award could take about a month
1:56:06and so what we're seeing is what we're
1:56:08expecting is in the spring to be under
1:56:11construction and then possibly by next
1:56:14summer have everything constructed for
1:56:16the community to be able to use it. So
1:56:19um
1:56:20usually you want to tie a grand opening
1:56:22to a big celebration in the community.
1:56:24Maybe it's you know Labor Day or
1:56:27something like that um
1:56:29towards the end of next summer.
1:56:31So
1:56:32we will entertain all your questions. Um
1:56:35we're here to answer whatever you you
1:56:37might ask us.
1:56:38Thank you.
1:56:40>> Thank you.
1:56:41All right. Council um questions?
1:56:47Ask Damon and Homer
1:56:49how does all this tie into the the time
1:56:51constraints that we're needing to
1:56:53[clears throat] spend the money under
1:56:54the grant?
1:56:55>> Um they're well within your time
1:56:57limitations, I believe.
1:57:00We have 3 years to spend the money um
1:57:03and and that's to actually start
1:57:05encumbering it. And then once you start
1:57:06to encumber it, you get another year
1:57:08essentially. So, I Yeah, we're we're
1:57:10well within the window of that of that
1:57:13period.
1:57:13>> Good. Thank you.
1:57:20Uh this may be more for staff. The
1:57:22$500,000 I I spoke with you about it
1:57:25under
1:57:28Uh let's see, where was it?
1:57:34The owner procured playground and stuff.
1:57:36Why why is that included in this budget
1:57:38instead of a separate item? Is it
1:57:40because of the labor cost associated
1:57:42with
1:57:43designing the playground and then
1:57:44installing it?
1:57:46Uh I guess what I'm
1:57:48asking is that's the only owner procured
1:57:50item on there. So, it kind of struck me
1:57:51as odd.
1:57:53>> Well, it's the it's really the largest
1:57:55sum of money um to be spent on any
1:57:57anything in the park. And by the town
1:58:01procuring it directly, you save the
1:58:03markup on it. Um and so, you're not
1:58:07paying that to the contractor.
1:58:09>> Okay.
1:58:10>> So, it helps um
1:58:12it helps you kind of stretch your
1:58:14dollars about as far as we can possibly
1:58:16stretch them legally.
1:58:18>> And the
1:58:20cost we were looking at was $425,000 is
1:58:23where we're somewhere in there.
1:58:24>> Right.
1:58:25>> And
1:58:25when you add [clears throat] the other
1:58:26equipment, you know, it it's actually I
1:58:28mean, you can procure procure all of
1:58:29that equipment through the through that
1:58:31procurement method. So, you know, that's
1:58:34you know, it's almost half of
1:58:35>> struck me as odd is why the challenge
1:58:37course everything wasn't owner procured
1:58:39or not. It It just seemed odd to me.
1:58:42>> It typically would be, yeah. Anything
1:58:44that's manufactured, we can actually
1:58:46have that under the procurement
1:58:47contract.
1:58:48>> Okay.
1:58:49>> Yeah.
1:58:50>> And the $500,000 we have listed there,
1:58:53that's
1:58:54pretty much the part F grant is what
1:58:56we're looking at. How many phases were
1:58:59we talking about total
1:59:01for this project? Three phases?
1:59:03>> Initially it was going to be two phases
1:59:07and this is just phase one.
1:59:09But so for the the funding that we have
1:59:11now and the plans that we're uh drafting
1:59:14right now, that's just phase one.
1:59:16>> Okay. So what we have listed here with
1:59:18the part F grant, that would use be
1:59:20pretty much used for just phase one,
1:59:23meaning if we go to phase two, we will
1:59:24have to probably seek more grant money
1:59:27or other ways to fund the project.
1:59:29>> Correct.
1:59:30>> Okay.
1:59:30>> Yep.
1:59:31>> I just wanted to make that clear to the
1:59:32public that all of the part of grant we
1:59:34are getting now is included in this
1:59:37phase one plan, not phase two.
1:59:40>> Correct. And um
1:59:42the way part F works is you put an
1:59:44application in and you have to list
1:59:46everything that part F will be paying
1:59:49for. And you're obligated to actually
1:59:51build that
1:59:53with the funds. So there's no way to
1:59:55kind of
1:59:56use some of it and save save it for a
1:59:58reserve. Um but you do have the option
2:00:00to be able to go after successive fiscal
2:00:03year grant application.
2:00:06So that's always an option. Um
2:00:09>> Okay. Thank you.
2:00:14Do you
2:00:15Sorry. While we're while I'm asking
2:00:17questions, did you have any examples of
2:00:20items you have it broken down by light
2:00:22item, the trash receptacles, tables with
2:00:25chairs, sun sails, any of that cuz
2:00:28those do add up and I had questioned
2:00:30Homer the other day. I said $15,000 for
2:00:33trash cans sounds like an awful lot to
2:00:35me, but
2:00:37I've not much experience in this. You
2:00:38guys do. I I didn't know if you had any
2:00:40other slides
2:00:42uh just to show the public what what
2:00:44we're working with, what we're looking
2:00:45at.
2:00:46>> We don't have any more slides and that
2:00:47we wanted to keep it brief. Um
2:00:49>> Okay. And we're at the conceptual level
2:00:51right now, so we'll have more details as
2:00:53the project gets more and more detailed.
2:00:56>> I appreciate that. Thank you.
2:01:01Any further questions?
2:01:09Okay.
2:01:10I think we're good.
2:01:12So, I know initially um
2:01:15we we applied for the part F grant and
2:01:17we stipulated what we wanted to see.
2:01:21And everything you're proposing now
2:01:23meets that criteria.
2:01:25>> Yes.
2:01:26>> The guidance, okay.
2:01:31Okay, so
2:01:35thank you.
2:01:38The request is that we amend the
2:01:41ordinance 883.
2:01:43>> Yeah, and that's uh that's my typo
2:01:44there. That was from a previous meeting.
2:01:46I apologize. I was uh
2:01:48using the Covington Park [clears throat]
2:01:49information and left the uh
2:01:52the wrong recommendation in there.
2:01:54>> Okay.
2:01:54>> Actually, all that we wanted you to do
2:01:56tonight was to hear from
2:01:57>> Okay, so we're not moving.
2:02:00Okay.
2:02:02>> If everything sounds good to y'all,
2:02:03we're going to continue pressing
2:02:04forward.
2:02:05>> appreciate that.
2:02:06Um one more quick item. The slide said
2:02:09775 for our match. Is that right? Is it
2:02:11771?
2:02:12>> 771 is our match. 770 The the slide I
2:02:17think comes up to about $4,000 more than
2:02:20the
2:02:21the match, but if you notice that that
2:02:2270,000 is owner contingency.
2:02:25>> Okay.
2:02:25>> So, that's there in case we need it.
2:02:27>> Okay.
2:02:28>> Gotcha. We hopefully hope to not exceed
2:02:31what we've committed to.
2:02:32>> Gotcha. Thank you.
2:02:33Thank you all for answering the
2:02:34questions.
2:02:35>> Thank you. We'll be We'll be back again
2:02:36and we'll
2:02:37We'll have You'll have another chance to
2:02:39see it before you get to approve it.
2:02:41>> Thank you.
2:02:42>> Thank you.
2:02:42>> All right. Thank you.
2:02:49All right. The next item is our 2026
2:02:52Town of [clears throat] Rural Hall
2:02:53Council meeting schedule revision.
2:02:55That's attachment three.
2:03:02Lynette,
2:03:03do you want to or speak on on that or
2:03:05you want me to just talk about it? It's
2:03:08our December meeting.
2:03:11We're recommending that it be changed to
2:03:13December the 1st
2:03:16instead of the second meeting
2:03:19in December. It's always a
2:03:22busy time in December for
2:03:25Christmas and whatever everybody likes
2:03:27to do and parties and stuff. So,
2:03:30recommending that we move our Council
2:03:32meeting to December the 1st. That will
2:03:35also coincide our pre-lighting and the
2:03:40parade all in one week. And then
2:03:42everybody can have a nice holiday.
2:03:46>> Will that meeting also include the
2:03:48swearing in?
2:03:49>> Yes.
2:03:58>> Okay. Any discussion?
2:04:00I entertain a motion to
2:04:03amend our schedule
2:04:06to December the 1st.
2:04:09>> I'll make a motion to amend the schedule
2:04:11to December 1st.
2:04:13>> Okay. The motion's been made by
2:04:15Councilwoman Ring.
2:04:19>> Second.
2:04:19>> Second by Councilman Woodcock. Any
2:04:22further discussion? Seeing none, all
2:04:24those in favor?
2:04:26>> Aye.
2:04:27>> Okay.
2:04:28>> Motion carries.
2:04:30North Carolina Department of
2:04:32Transportation mowing and maintenance
2:04:34agreement, attachment four.
2:04:37I'll move this back over to town manager
2:04:40Dearman.
2:04:41>> Thank you, Mayor.
2:04:43Council, this is one that you've
2:04:44actually technically approved a few
2:04:46years ago
2:04:47when the town initially adopted an
2:04:50agreement with DOT,
2:04:52I believe back in 2023.
2:04:55I was set for four or five years and
2:04:58each year they send us a letter
2:05:00affirming that agreement and making sure
2:05:03that we are still on board with it. So,
2:05:06that is what we have for your
2:05:08consideration this evening.
2:05:10This is a renewal of the agreement that
2:05:12was executed on April 14th, 2024
2:05:16that provides the town with funding in
2:05:18the amount of $8,005.50
2:05:22in exchange for mowing and cleaning up
2:05:25litter on the DOT right-of-ways
2:05:28within the town limits. That amount is
2:05:30included in your budget that was adopted
2:05:32back in June
2:05:33and we're simply asking your
2:05:35authorization to execute the commitment
2:05:38letter with NCDOT
2:05:40that we are going to proceed as planned.
2:05:44>> Okay.
2:05:46Any questions to town manager?
2:05:49>> [clears throat]
2:05:53>> All right, I'd entertain a motion to
2:05:56approve the agreement with North
2:05:58Carolina Department of Transportation
2:06:03for our mowing annual mowing and litter
2:06:05pickup expense.
2:06:08>> So, I make a motion authorize the
2:06:09extension of the agreement with NCDOT
2:06:11through June 30th, 2027.
2:06:15>> I have a motion by Councilman Lane.
2:06:19>> Second.
2:06:20>> Second by Councilwoman Ring. Any
2:06:23[clears throat]
2:06:23Any discussion? Seeing none, all those
2:06:26in favor?
2:06:27>> I.
2:06:28>> I.
2:06:28>> All right, motion approved.
2:06:32All right, we'll move right into the
2:06:33department reports. I'll turn it back
2:06:36over to
2:06:37Town Manager Dearman.
2:06:40>> Thank you, Mayor.
2:06:41Uh Mayor and Council, my written report,
2:06:43as well as the written reports of our
2:06:46department heads, are included in your
2:06:47agenda packet. If you have any questions
2:06:50about those, please direct those to me
2:06:52or to the appropriate department head.
2:06:54Um but in the meantime, I will highlight
2:06:56just a few items from the month of June.
2:06:59June was primarily on wrapping up one
2:07:01fiscal year as we began another.
2:07:04Staff spent a significant amount of time
2:07:06responding to interim audit requests,
2:07:08completing year-end financial
2:07:09activities, preparing budget amendments,
2:07:12and assuring a smooth transition into
2:07:14the new fiscal year.
2:07:16I truly appreciate the tremendous work
2:07:18of our finance staff, uh Lynette, Donna,
2:07:21all of our department heads, um that
2:07:24they have put into these efforts with
2:07:25our 2025-26
2:07:27audit.
2:07:29We also continue working with the North
2:07:30Carolina Parks and Recreation Trust Fund
2:07:32on grant administration requirements for
2:07:35the Covington Park project. And during
2:07:37the month of June, we completed annual
2:07:39employee performance evaluations. I want
2:07:42to thank all of our staff for another
2:07:44outstanding year of service to the Town
2:07:46of Rural Hall
2:07:47and its citizens.
2:07:49On the legislative front, during June, I
2:07:51maintained regular communication with
2:07:53our legislative delegation
2:07:55as two local bills affecting Rural Hall
2:07:57became law.
2:07:59One removed the town from the Forsyth
2:08:01County countywide fire service district
2:08:03beginning with this tax year,
2:08:05providing a more equitable local funding
2:08:07model for fire protection for the town.
2:08:10The second legislative action updates
2:08:12our town charter to establish procedures
2:08:14for unaffiliated candidates to seek
2:08:16municipal office by petition,
2:08:19ensuring that our election procedures
2:08:20remain consistent with state law.
2:08:23From a financial management a
2:08:25we continue to look for opportunities to
2:08:27improve returns on public funds.
2:08:29During the month of June, we closed a
2:08:31$30,000 certificate of deposit and
2:08:33transferred those funds uh to our
2:08:36holdings with the North Carolina Capital
2:08:37Management Trust Fund.
2:08:39And I expect that move to increase the
2:08:41annual interest earnings that we are
2:08:43receiving
2:08:44while maintaining the safety and
2:08:45liquidity of the town of Rural Hall's
2:08:47funds.
2:08:49Uh during June, I attended the North
2:08:51Carolina City and County Management
2:08:52Association Summer Seminar in Asheville.
2:08:55The conference included training uh
2:08:57sessions on organizational leadership,
2:08:59public trust and transparency, ethics,
2:09:02artificial intelligence in local
2:09:03government, data centers in local
2:09:06governments, and other emerging issues
2:09:09that face municipalities.
2:09:11Uh professional opportunities,
2:09:12professional development opportunities
2:09:14like the North Carolina City and County
2:09:16Managers
2:09:17uh Association annual meeting helped to
2:09:19ensure
2:09:20that we here in Rural Hall continue to
2:09:22implement best practices in municipal
2:09:24management.
2:09:26Finally, I want to make the council
2:09:27aware of correspondence that we received
2:09:29last week from North Carolina Department
2:09:31of Transportation
2:09:33regarding the proposed North Carolina 65
2:09:35widening project between Glade Street
2:09:37and North Carolina 66. I've included
2:09:40that correspondence in the manager's
2:09:42report found in your packet. Um NCDOT
2:09:46has begun preliminary environmental
2:09:48studies and property owners within the
2:09:50study area that is outlined in red on
2:09:52the map may see surveyors, engineers,
2:09:56and environmental consultants around
2:09:58town and around those properties
2:10:00over the coming months as part of the
2:10:02planning process with NCDOT.
2:10:05It is important for all of us to
2:10:06remember that this work is preliminary
2:10:08and does not represent a final roadway
2:10:10design. I anticipate that we'll hear
2:10:13more communication from them
2:10:15as their planning efforts move forward.
2:10:18Mayor, that concludes my report. I'll be
2:10:20happy to answer any questions or uh
2:10:22direct any questions that you may have
2:10:24to the appropriate staff member. Thank
2:10:26you.
2:10:28>> Thank you, Homer.
2:10:30Any
2:10:31any questions?
2:10:32Everybody's had a chance to look over
2:10:34all that.
2:10:39Okay.
2:10:42All right.
2:10:44That pretty much concludes. I just want
2:10:46to make a couple more comments. Uh
2:10:49Uh
2:10:50I want to make sure Lynette, you have
2:10:52copies available. I encourage you the
2:10:56the copies of the newspaper article in
2:10:58the Hickory
2:11:00What is that called? The Hickory Daily
2:11:02Record. Those are copies. I do have the
2:11:05original, so it did come from that
2:11:07paper. I would encourage you to read it.
2:11:10It talks a lot about water usage and um
2:11:14what a hyper data center would be like
2:11:16in Maiden.
2:11:18>> Thanks.
2:11:18>> Yes, you were I'm
2:11:20I'll answer that question. They do have
2:11:23an 80-acre uh solar farm. They have a
2:11:27200-acre data center. Uh Apple's just
2:11:31bought an additional 200 acres to it to
2:11:34expand. Uh along with they're expecting
2:11:37Microsoft to be completed by January. Um
2:11:42just want to make sure the records are
2:11:44straight. Another thing um
2:11:47I would like This is kind of a trivia
2:11:49thing. It'll be a
2:11:51If you would like want to just drop me
2:11:53an email.
2:11:55I would like to
2:11:57see how many
2:11:59people know why we are called the garden
2:12:02spot of the world.
2:12:05>> I and
2:12:07with that being said, on Jason's report,
2:12:10um
2:12:11he mentioned that we would like to thank
2:12:13the
2:12:14um
2:12:15Rural Hall Garden Club for the continued
2:12:18support to the community.
2:12:19>> Yes.
2:12:20>> Um they have
2:12:22um
2:12:23provided double pole banners at each
2:12:26welcome sign for us for every season.
2:12:29And also um
2:12:33the new 4th of July
2:12:37red, blue, and white banners for the 4th
2:12:39of July.
2:12:40So,
2:12:41wanted to shout out for the Garden Club.
2:12:44I know it's in his report, but I wanted
2:12:45to make that public.
2:12:47>> Thank you to the Garden Club. Um
2:12:50But yes, if if you just a little trivia,
2:12:53if you would send that to me, maybe
2:12:55we'll announce it, might even give a
2:12:56little plaque for the correct one. I
2:12:58will go ahead and tell you not to Google
2:13:00it because this incorrect. So, I'll give
2:13:03you a little bit of head start. And
2:13:06um
2:13:06it took me a lot of years to find that
2:13:08out. Uh with that being said, I'd enter
2:13:11toast entertain a motion to adjourn.
2:13:15>> I'll motion.
2:13:17>> Motion made by Councilman Woodcock.
2:13:20>> Second.
2:13:20>> Seconded by Councilman Mayne. All those
2:13:22in favor.
2:13:23>> I.
2:13:24>> Thank you.
