2026-10-29 - Board of Police Commissioners

00:00We'd like to welcome everyone to the

00:03board of police commissioners meeting

00:04for Thursday, October the 29th. It is

00:07good to see everyone and we'd like to

00:10thank you for coming. Uh at this time,

00:12we will have the invocation and that

00:15will be given to us by Commander

00:18Chaplain Darren Pinson.

00:24>> Amen. May we all bow our heads in a word

00:27of prayer.

00:30God, we come before you

00:34today to intercede on the board of

00:36police commissioners behalf.

00:39God, you've been the same God yesterday,

00:42today, and forever.

00:45When this board was established in 1974,

00:50when KA Young established this

00:52department, you then blessed us with one

00:55chief after another chief. one

00:58commissioner after another commissioner,

01:01one officer after another officer to

01:04curtail and combat the crime for the

01:07city of Detroit. And for that we say

01:10thankful. We're so thankful for what you

01:13continuously do. And now God, we just

01:16ask your blessings upon this meeting.

01:19Continuously bless these commissioners

01:21with the wisdom and the insight that

01:24carry the task lies before them. But

01:27once again, God, we are reminded that

01:30you are the same one yesterday, today,

01:32and forever.

01:33Every time, God, we've been through a

01:35storm, you brought us up. And every time

01:38you made a way out of nowhere, so

01:40continuously to do what you do best. So

01:43we bless you and we glorify you. It's in

01:47the name of the Father, the Son, and the

01:50Holy Spirit. And we all say, "Amen."

01:53>> Amen. God,

01:54>> thank you, Commander Pinson. You're

01:56>> seven. Which one? I'm seven.

01:58>> Do you have seven?

02:00>> I don't know.

02:03>> Did you want to read the res

02:08>> first clause and last clause?

02:10>> Okay.

02:14>> Okay. Thank you. So, at this time,

02:15fellow commissioners, uh, I will be, uh,

02:20bringing up and if you can all join me,

02:22we'd like to welcome our new

02:24commissioner, Commissioner Harvey

02:26Santana. So, please join me in the

02:28middle of the floor so we can make a

02:30picture.

03:06Hallelujah.

03:42And commissioners, while you're here, I

03:44will be presenting Commissioner Har,

03:57we welcome you. My longtime friend

04:00commissioner

04:22That's right.

04:28I know

04:37>> I hope this is

04:38>> Yeah.

04:39>> I don't know.

04:40>> Yeah. Through the chair.

04:41>> Yes, sir.

04:42>> Yep. Um I I do also uh would like to uh

04:47put on the record that I am appreciative

04:50of the leadership of uh Commissioner

04:52Harvey Santana. Uh are you No, he's he's

04:58just did this and so we're doing that.

05:00Yeah. Uh so I I definitely appreciate

05:05the uh leadership of Commissioner Harvey

05:09Santana and his leadership uh to this

05:12board I think is going to be very very

05:14valuable.

05:16um uh his legislative experience uh with

05:19policy and um just a communitydriven

05:24uh leader uh and I I deeply appreciate

05:28uh his sacrifice to come on this board.

05:30So again, welcome uh Commissioner

05:32Santana.

05:33>> Thank you.

05:34>> Thank you, Commissioner Woods. Any other

05:36comments from the commissioners? I will

05:39uh want to join in and at least say I've

05:41already said welcome to uh Commissioner

05:43Har uh Santana who I have known for

05:46several years. Uh we spent a lot of time

05:48together in Lancing. He was a pleasure

05:50to work with and I am looking forward to

05:52working with you on this board. And once

05:54again, congratulations and uh it's going

05:58to be a ball.

05:59>> Thank you so much.

06:02Seeing no other hands, uh I'm going to

06:04ask that the uh board secretary uh give

06:08us the introduction of the

06:09commissioners.

06:11>> Good afternoon. To through the chair,

06:13Commissioner Robert Jones,

06:15>> present, sir.

06:16>> Commissioner Beverly Watts,

06:17>> here.

06:18>> Commissioner Scott Bowman,

06:19>> present.

06:20>> Commissioner Victoria Camille,

06:22>> present.

06:22>> Commissioner Lisa Carter.

06:25>> Commissioner Eva DeWalsh.

06:27>> Commissioner Henrietta Ivy,

06:29>> present. Commissioner Darius Morris

06:31>> here.

06:32>> Commissioner Lavish T. Williams

06:34>> present.

06:35>> Commissioner Daryl Woods

06:36>> present.

06:36>> Commissioner Harvey Santana

06:38>> present.

06:39>> Sir, you have a quorum.

06:40>> Thank you very much, sir. At this time,

06:42I will ask for the approval of the

06:44October 29th agenda which is for today.

06:47>> So moved.

06:48>> Support.

06:48>> Thank you. It has been moved by

06:50Commissioner Williams and supported by

06:53Commissioner Ivy that we for the

06:55approval of the uh agenda for today. Is

06:57there any uh discussion on the motion?

07:00Looking around, seeing no hands. All in

07:02favor of the motion, please indicate by

07:04I.

07:04>> I.

07:05>> Any oppose?

07:07>> Motion does carry. Thank you. And now we

07:10the chair will entertain a motion for

07:11the uh minutes from our last Thursday,

07:14October 22nd meeting.

07:17>> So moved.

07:18>> Thank you, Commissioner Williams. Is

07:20there support?

07:21>> Support.

07:22>> Thank you. We do have a motion that has

07:24been uh moved by Commissioner Williams

07:26and supported by Commissioner Ivy for

07:30the approval of the minutes from last

07:31Thursday, October the 22nd. Is there any

07:34discussion on the motion?

07:36>> Hearing none, all in favor of the

07:37motion, please indicate by saying I

07:39>> oppose. Motion does carry. Now we will

07:42chair will entertain a motion for the

07:44approval of the closed session minutes

07:46from last Thursday October the uh 22nd

07:49and that was for applicant appeal for

07:51Deonte Wllo Wllo I'm sorry

07:55>> so moved

07:55>> support

07:56>> it has been uh moved by uh Commissioner

07:59Williams and supported by Vice Chair

08:01Watts. Uh is there any I'm thank you

08:06and supported by Vice Chair Watts. Is

08:08there any discussion on the motion

08:11hearing? None. All in favor of the

08:12motion, please indicate by saying I.

08:14>> I.

08:14>> Motion does carry.

08:17And also uh the chair will entertain an

08:20motion for the approval uh from our

08:22closed session last Thursday for the

08:25administrative leave without pay for

08:27police officer Dea Kegler.

08:30>> So moved.

08:31>> Support.

08:32>> It has been moved by Commissioner Bowman

08:34and supported by Vice Chair Watts. Uh is

08:37there any discussion on this motion?

08:40Hearing none. All in favor of the

08:41motion, please indicate by saying I.

08:43>> I.

08:44>> Any opposed? Motion does carry. And the

08:47chair will now uh entertain approval of

08:51a close session minutes from last

08:52Thursday, October the 22nd. And it says

08:55to review video footage. Is there any

08:58support for that motion?

08:59>> Support.

09:01>> Thank you.

09:03Is there a second?

09:05>> Second.

09:05>> Thank you. Uh we do have a motion on the

09:07floor that has been approved uh by

09:09Commissioner Ivy and supported by uh

09:12Commissioner uh Woods. Is any discussion

09:14on the motion?

09:16Hearing none, all in favor of the

09:18motion, please indicate by saying I.

09:20>> I.

09:20>> I.

09:20>> Thank you. Any opposed? The motion does

09:23carry. Thank you, commissioners. Now we

09:25will have the introduction of the BOPC

09:27staff, chief of police, elected

09:29officials, andor their representatives,

09:31and community leaders. vote.

09:34>> You're the chair. We have with us

09:36Chaplain Darren Penins, the BOPC staff,

09:40Miss Ja Unwood Underwood, Mr. Dior

09:42Matthysse, Miss Artameisia Joshua, Miss

09:46Mary Barber, Miss Felicia Tyson, Mr.

09:49Drew Freeze, Corporation Council, Conrad

09:52Mallet,

09:54supervising investigator from the office

09:56of the chief investigator, uh, Hyenel

09:59Hiller, and, uh, director from DPD, HR

10:02director from DPD, uh, Director Patillo

10:05is online. Also in our audience today,

10:08the a uh, the interpreters are Miss

10:10Stephanie Bey and Miss Angelique Taylor.

10:14Our court reporting system is from

10:16Hansen Court Reporting. The audio is

10:18being done by Sergeant Jackson. Media

10:20services are being handled by Mr.

10:23Charles Henry. Special recognitions, uh,

10:26Miss Marie Overall, administrative

10:29assistant to state representative Tyrone

10:31Carter and president of the fourth

10:34precinct, uh, CRC. Nicole Fischer,

10:37secretary for the fourth precinct

10:39community relations councils on Zoom.

10:42Miss Freda Butler, second precinct

10:44community activist. uh JG G Love uh

10:48representative from Council Member

10:50Reinetta Miller's office. Don't see Mr.

10:53Young uh or Mr. Thomas.

10:56Uh former police commissioner uh Tamron

10:59Smith, former police commissioner

11:01William Davis and former police

11:02commissioner Ricardo Moore on Zoom.

11:05That's your attendance, sir.

11:07>> Uh thank you very much, Chief

11:08Investigator uh Jerome Warfield, who is

11:11also serving as the interim board

11:13secretary. Thank you very much, sir. Uh

11:15at this time uh we will have two

11:18resolutions. Uh the first one

11:23first one is a resolution honoring uh

11:26Master Sergeant Patrick Neil.

11:30>> Commissioner Woods.

11:32>> Commissioner

11:34do the first and last clause.

11:37>> All right. Uh this is a resolution

11:39honoring Master Sergeant Patrick Neil.

11:41Whereas Master Sergeant Patrick Neil was

11:44appointed as a Detroit police officer on

11:47May 6th, 1996.

11:50Master Sergeant Neil began his career in

11:53the fifth precinct and subsequently

11:56served in numerous assignments including

11:59headquarters surveillance unit, fifth

12:02precinct poss

12:10response team, vice enforcement, Eastern

12:13District downtown services, chief

12:16neighborhood liaison and tactical

12:19operations.

12:20demonstrating versatility,

12:22professionalism, and a commitment to

12:25public safety.

12:27And

12:29therefore, it be resolved that the

12:32Detroit Board of Police Commissioners

12:34hereby honor and recognizes Master

12:37Sergeant Patrick Neil for his 30 years

12:40of dedicated service to the Detroit

12:42Police Department and the citizens of

12:44Detroit. The board expresses its sincere

12:48gratitude for his contributions to

12:51public safety, his commitment to

12:53strengthening community relationships

12:56and his distinguished service and wishes

13:00him continued success and happiness in

13:03his retirement. Um, I move that the

13:08board um

13:11passes this resolution. Adopt

13:14resolution.

13:15>> You need a support.

13:17>> Thank you. Commissioner Bowman supported

13:19it.

13:20>> Thank you uh Commissioner Williams for

13:22your uh support. And thank you uh

13:25Commissioner Bowman for uh seconding the

13:27motion. Is there any discussion on the

13:29motion?

13:31>> Hearing none. All in favor of the

13:32motion, please indicate by saying I. I

13:35>> opposed. Motion does carry and at this

13:37time we will uh go over to Vice Chair

13:40Watts uh reading the resolution honoring

13:43Lieutenant Andre Walker.

13:45>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. The board of

13:47police commissioners resolution honoring

13:49Lieutenant Andre Walker. Whereas

13:51appointed on October 9th, 2000,

13:54Lieutenant Walker began his career in

13:56patrol at the 11th precinct following

13:58graduation from the Detroit Metropolitan

14:01Police Academy. Throughout his career,

14:03he served in the northeastern district

14:06gaming section, Eastern District, and

14:08fifth precinct, contributing to public

14:10safety in effective police operations.

14:13Whereas, Lieutenant Walker was promoted

14:16to sergeant on June 14th, 2006, and

14:19assigned to the gaming unit and

14:21subsequently promoted to lieutenant on

14:23August 1st, 2014, serving at the fifth

14:27precinct until his retirement. Whereas

14:30Lieutenant Walker received numerous

14:32awards and accommodations, including

14:35recognition for the Rosa Parks funeral,

14:37NLB All-Star game, Super Bowl 40, 2024

14:41NF NFL draft, and 2014 fireworks, as

14:45well as the COVID 19 ribbon, 2023 crime

14:49reduction ribbon, and 2026 summer surge

14:53ribbon. He also received numerous

14:55citations, meritous accommodations, and

14:58letters of appreciation from Detroit

15:00residents in recognition of his service

15:03and des dedication.

15:06Now, let it be resolved that the Detroit

15:08Board of Police Commissioners hereby

15:10recognize and commend Lieutenant Andre

15:12Walker for his 26 years of exemplary

15:16service, professionalism, and commitment

15:18to the Detroit Police Department and the

15:20citizens of Detroit and extends his

15:23sincere appreciation and best wishes for

15:26a fulfilling, rewarding retirement with

15:29gratitude for his lasting contributions

15:31to the city of Detroit. Mr. Chair, I

15:35make a motion that the board of police

15:37commissioners adopt this resolution.

15:39>> Support.

15:40>> Thank you. Uh, this resolution has been

15:44uh moved by Vice Chair Watts and

15:47supported by uh, Commissioner Dewal. Is

15:50there any discussion on the motion?

15:52Hearing none, all in favor of the

15:53motion, please indicate by saying I.

15:56>> Those opposed? Motion does carry. Let me

15:58just ask before we move on. Are either

16:00one of these uh individuals present,

16:04Master Sergeant Patrick Neil or

16:06Lieutenant Andre Walker?

16:10All right, we will make sure that these

16:12resolutions are uh given to them. Thank

16:15you. Uh and maybe I missed it. Did we

16:17acknowledge that corporate council uh

16:19Conrad Mallet is with us? Yes, sir.

16:22>> Okay. Thank you, sir.

16:23>> And Eva.

16:24>> Oh, I'm sorry. And Commissioner Eva

16:25DeWash. Thank you.

16:28All right. At this time, we will move to

16:30oral communications and public comments.

16:33Please let me say this is each speaker

16:35will have two uninterrupted minutes to

16:39speak. Inappropriate language and

16:42comments may delay broadcast and video

16:44post. Governor,

16:46>> please help protect your privacy during

16:49this public meeting. While speaking, do

16:52not state your address or any phone

16:55numbers. Thank you. At this time we will

16:58begin with the oral uh communications.

17:05>> Mr. Our

17:13first speaker will be

17:16followed by

17:21>> huh.

17:23>> Sir, sir.

17:27>> Oh, well here. Let me step right up here

17:29the mic.

17:32>> How's it,

17:33>> sir? Through the tear. You may be heard.

17:36>> Okay. Where the comrade go?

17:40Wait a minute. Hold on. Woods and

17:41comrade and get up out of here that

17:44quick. Okay. Warfield, it's on you then.

17:46Listen. Uh, Bill William Davis, Mr.

17:49Davis, Tama Liberty Smith,

17:54Ricardo Moore,

17:57Janice is busted. The Fed's gonna run up

18:00into the KAC.

18:02Absentee ballot fraud is real than an

18:06Mfer in Detroit, Michigan. And the very

18:09first case I've ever heard of of

18:12international

18:14absentee ballot fraud.

18:17If you vote in Detroit, your vote don't

18:20mean sugar honey iced tea. They put in

18:24who they want to put in so they can

18:27control the purse strings.

18:30The tax pot, the biggest pot of money

18:33here in Detroit is $2.5

18:37billion dollar annually.

18:40Only 300 to 400 million touches black

18:43hands in a majority black city with a

18:46majority black council that approved the

18:48money. 2.1 billion 2.1 billion goes to

18:53nine black hands.

18:55Did y'all hear what I said?

18:57>> Through the chair, sir.

18:59>> Through the chair. 2.1 billion.

19:02>> Uh, thank you, sir.

19:04>> Now,

19:06you

19:08and all the rest of y'all, Dennis is

19:09busted. Gina Avery Walker is busted and

19:12Daniel Baxter is busted. They going to

19:14get 039s like mine. But I wear my felony

19:18like a badge of honor. Pull it out

19:20anywhere, anytime, on anybody.

19:24I earned it.

19:27Did my time. was since she was stepped

19:30back in now.

19:33Comrade and got up and left. I was going

19:35to talk about Dodo

19:38>> and Bill

19:40>> and sir, your time is up, unfortunately.

19:42Thank you very much, sir.

19:49>> Next, next speaker.

19:52>> Good afternoon, Sher.

19:53>> Good afternoon. I'm relent my minutes

19:56over to Miss Butler. And you can do it.

20:00>> That means she has two minutes.

20:01>> She has two of my minutes and her two

20:04minutes.

20:04>> She can only have two minutes.

20:06>> Well, as I stated before,

20:09>> are we clear on that? Don't start the

20:11clock. You've got two minutes. She can't

20:13give you her two minutes.

20:16As I said before that um

20:22>> I've listened to too many congre

20:24congressional

20:26meetings and they yield their time to

20:30another speaker and I stated before that

20:32I will not obey that rule especially

20:36with what I have to say and I will not

20:39abuse that time either. Thank you.

20:48Wake up, sleeping giants,

20:50and think. This is our time.

20:54We must work together and have and

20:58maintain health care, education,

21:02housing, and jobs. We must vote for

21:05candidates that we believe all represent

21:08our concerns and hold them accountable.

21:12Slavery

21:13has done a job on us by physically

21:17removing the shackles from our bodies

21:20and placing them on our brains.

21:24Too many of us are going uh acting like

21:27the crabs.

21:28>> Excuse me.

21:29>> Sleeping giants.

21:30>> Excuse you one second. I'm Is there a

21:31phone? Okay, thank you. I'm sorry for

21:33taking a couple seconds away.

21:35>> Sorry, brother.

21:37>> Sleeping giants, let us work together.

21:40love, listen and learn. We are great

21:43people and have achieved and more than

21:47any other people I believe who have come

21:50from such dire circumstances.

21:53Giants more than 40 were called to

21:56register people to vote and seven

21:59responded. One gave up after the first

22:02day during registration but a gentleman

22:05saw what we were doing and asked to join

22:09us. The work was hard. Some of our signs

22:12with the message register to vote were

22:15stolen and the wire was taken from one.

22:20Two candidates signs were removed from

22:24their spot and placed on the ground. It

22:26was my error in placing them in their

22:29flower bed. Yet we registered 132 people

22:34returning the application to laser

22:36village.

22:38131 applications were given to the city

22:42clerk's office on October the 19th.

22:44>> All right, ma'am. Unfortunately,

22:46>> Ma'am, unfortunately, your time is up.

22:48>> The date given to us, we distributed

22:52>> Your time is up, ma'am. Uh, Mr. Chair,

22:56Mr. Chair, I would like a motion to make

22:58a motion to suspend the rules. this this

23:01time to um give uh the speaker um

23:08at least a minute and a half.

23:10>> Second.

23:12>> We have a motion on the floor uh that

23:14looks to give the speaker uh an

23:16additional minute and a half with her

23:18presentation. Is there any discussion on

23:20the motion?

23:20>> Yes, Mr. Chair.

23:21>> Yes, ma'am.

23:22>> Well, I do respect uh everyone's right

23:24and and and and this is very important.

23:26I see the signs here to say voter

23:28registration. My concern is with every

23:31other citizen uh of Detroit who comes

23:33here with public comment because their

23:35message may be equally important uh by

23:38allowing extra time um to to one

23:41individual. Even though this topic is

23:43very important, I'm concerned about the

23:44others who also have vital information

23:47that they need to uh express, but

23:49they're held to the two-minute uh time

23:51frame. That's my question.

23:53>> Thank you. uh Commissioner uh Woods,

23:56then Commissioner uh Morris, then

23:58Commissioner Camille.

23:59>> Uh I would I I hear your sentiments

24:02there, but these are r rare occasions

24:04that we would do that and and those rare

24:07occasions when

24:10um the to to make a motion to do that. I

24:13would do that for any important message

24:17that need to you know a citizen trying

24:20to convey whether it be this issue or

24:23maybe a homicide victim up there uh

24:26speaking we have given grace uh this is

24:29not the first time we have given grace

24:32uh to people to be able to go a little

24:34extra. So this is not a situation

24:38uh where it be a normal practice uh you

24:41know and just you know commissioners can

24:44make a motion and we can accept it or

24:45reject it.

24:46>> Thank you Commissioner Morris.

24:49>> Um I would just say that you know uh we

24:53probably should in that case if you're

24:55going to let one do it you might as well

24:57let everybody's because we don't have

24:59the leverage to determine

25:01>> who whose comment is important and who's

25:04not. we can't make that. I believe

25:06everyone who's making a comment um

25:08believes that their concerns are just as

25:10important as the next individual. So

25:12that would be I believe the only way we

25:14would do that would be universal. Other

25:16than that, I would not support that.

25:19>> Thank you, Commissioner Camille.

25:20>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I'd like to

25:22speak a little bit to this idea of

25:25yielding the time because that was the

25:27original request. And while I understand

25:29that Robert's rules of order um governs

25:32the amount of time, if there are rules

25:35around the amount of time that members

25:37of a body speak. Um, it's my

25:40understanding that that doesn't actually

25:41apply to public commenters. And so I

25:44know this was spoken to at a previous

25:47meeting um on the spot, but I I would

25:52really like to get a parliamentarian as

25:54well as a legal opinion on this because

25:57our bylaws currently do not say that a

26:01person cannot yield their time to

26:04another person and it has been done in

26:06the past. please in the gallery. We need

26:09to hear her speak.

26:11>> And the um you know, last week the board

26:15voted to cancel a community meeting on

26:19the basis that every year we do this.

26:21And so if tradition is going to inform

26:24how we move forward, then I'm not sure

26:27why tradition isn't informing that time

26:30can be yielded from one public commenter

26:32to another because this body has done

26:34that in the past. And I would um be in

26:38support of allowing that time that Miss

26:40Parnell yielded to Miss Butler to be

26:42granted.

26:44>> Next,

26:46>> Vice Chair Watts.

26:47>> Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to

26:49my colleagues for their comments. Again,

26:50I think this message here is very

26:52important. I also agree uh as it relates

26:55to yielding time. Uh I definitely would

26:57support a motion uh having our

27:00parliamentarian getting some legal

27:01advice from our council and having

27:03discussion uh to delay this to make sure

27:05that we get clarity on this. Uh then I

27:08would be in support of yielding time. Uh

27:11in in in essence, I don't think we're

27:12going to be able to do that right now in

27:14absence of our parliamentarian and our

27:16legal counsel getting together to advise

27:18us in this moment. Um so again, I

27:22understand this topic here. I'm looking

27:23at your signs is very important. is

27:26vital to everyone not only in this

27:28region but around the country of your

27:29message very important however at the

27:32same time I have to support you know

27:34even with this exception I agree with my

27:36colleague commissioner Morris that

27:39everyone's topic that comes to public

27:41speaking may feel that theirs is vital

27:42right now in this moment so again I

27:45understand and I appreciate the motion

27:47but unfortunately today I cannot support

27:50that motion uh if it's not for all thank

27:52you Mr. Chair.

27:53>> Thank you, Commissioner uh Woods. And

27:56then Commissioner Bowman,

27:57>> the chairman.

27:58>> Uh yes, ma'am. Madam Parliamentarian.

28:01>> Yeah, this whole discussion is out of

28:03order. The motion to suspend the rules

28:05is non-debatable.

28:07So the whole debate about whether to the

28:09rules is out of order. You cannot debate

28:12the motion to suspend the rules. In

28:14addition, the issue about yielding time

28:18is nature to the motion to extend time.

28:21Those are two different issues. So the

28:24motion to suspend the rules is

28:25non-debatable. It requires twothirds

28:28vote to be adopted. There cannot be

28:31debate on this motion.

28:36>> So I'm sorry, Commissioner Bowman, and

28:38then I'll come back. You can't. It's not

28:40debatable.

28:40>> It's not debatable.

28:41>> It's not debatable.

28:44Motion to suspend the rules.

28:46>> I'm making a motion. You voted up or

28:48down and it requires twothirds to be

28:50adopted.

28:52>> Thank you, madam parliamentarian.

28:54>> So I'm sorry, Commissioner Bowman. No,

28:58>> I move to amend by substitution

29:01with the substitution.

29:03>> It's non-debatable.

29:05>> I wasn't debating it. I was amending it

29:06by substitution.

29:08>> You got to vote it up or down. Vote it

29:10up or down. So

29:11>> let's I'm sorry, Madam Parliamentarian.

29:13Were you saying something else? I'm

29:14sorry. No, I'm just frustrated.

29:20>> Okay, thank you for that, Madam

29:22Parliamentarian.

29:23All right, so on this non-debatable

29:26motion, let's do a roll call vote.

29:28>> Okay.

29:29>> Uh, some crazy.

29:31>> We're going to do a roll call vote. We'

29:33have been done.

29:34>> Commissioner Robert Jones,

29:36>> I'm a no.

29:38>> Commissioner Beverly Watts,

29:39>> no.

29:40>> Commissioner Scotty Bowman,

29:42>> nay. Commissioner Victoria Camille,

29:45>> yes.

29:46>> Commissioner Lisa Carter is absent. Uh,

29:48Commissioner Eva DeWalsh,

29:50>> no.

29:51>> Commissioner Henrietta Ivy,

29:54>> no.

29:55>> Commissioner Darius Moore,

29:57>> no.

29:58>> Commissioner Lavis T. Williams,

30:00>> no.

30:01>> Commissioner Daryl Woods,

30:02>> enthusiastically, yes.

30:04>> Commissioner Harvey Santana,

30:06>> no.

30:07>> The motion fails, sir.

30:09>> Thank you. So the extension for the

30:12additional minute and 30 seconds uh does

30:15not pass.

30:17>> It doesn't matter. I speak the same as

30:20Dr. King would do the same thing.

30:23>> I must because this ma'am, you are out

30:26of order. You cannot do this.

30:28>> This is our people.

30:30>> You cannot do this, ma'am. You are out

30:31of order.

30:32>> We are still back in slavery time and I

30:34refuse.

30:36>> You are done. That was the day. You are

30:40done, ma'am.

30:41>> We distributed 1,700 buttons and had

30:45requests for more. We ask people to take

30:48pictures of the signs and put them on.

30:51>> Okay. Let me ask, can we please have her

30:54remove

30:54>> registration and to vote?

30:58>> Butler. Butler, please don't. Please

31:02don't force officers.

31:04>> Please don't do that. Please, Miss

31:06Butler. Please, Miss Butler. Please,

31:10Miss Butler, please don't do that.

31:14>> Ma'am, from the gallery, please.

31:16>> Thank you, Miss Butler.

31:17>> Thank you, ma'am.

31:18>> Very much.

31:19>> Thank you very much.

31:21>> Thank you, ma'am.

31:23>> Our next speaker is Cuttingham, followed

31:26by Miss Williams and Telicia Johnson.

31:32>> At the end. At the end. I'm sorry. Next

31:36speaker, please.

31:40>> Excuse me before you speak. I did

31:43Commissioner Bowman.

31:45>> Yeah.

31:46>> Is it

31:47Thank you, sir.

31:49Is this regarding the matter that we

31:51just finished up with

31:53>> a different one?

31:56>> Let's go to the speaker.

31:58>> Um, but it is timely as the last one

32:00was.

32:03Go ahead, Commissioner Bowman.

32:05>> Yes. I would like to move that for the

32:09duration of this meeting

32:12that we recognize

32:14um members of the community willing to

32:18yield their time to other speakers

32:22>> and the gallery, please,

32:27>> including a motion. I second it.

32:31>> There is a motion. It has just been

32:33presented by Commissioner Bowman.

32:35Commissioner Bowman, can you repeat that

32:36motion?

32:38>> A motion to recognize

32:41um members of the community's wish to

32:44yield their time to other speakers for

32:47the duration of this meeting.

32:49>> Thank you. It's been

32:50>> Mr. Chairman.

32:51>> Yes, Madame Parliamentarian.

32:53>> This is the parliamentarian.

32:54>> Yes, ma'am.

32:55>> We know it. the the board can in fact

32:59enact a special rule of order to do what

33:05the motion wants to do. A special rule

33:08of order requires 2/3 to be adopted.

33:13>> Thank you. So, uh we do have a motion on

33:16the floor and according to Madame

33:18Parliamentarian, we can't entertain this

33:20motion. Correct?

33:21>> Yes.

33:21>> Thank you. All right. Is there any

33:23discussion on the motion

33:25>> hearing? None. Let's have a

33:27>> Oh, yes.

33:28>> Is there any discussion on the motion?

33:29Go ahead.

33:29>> Well, no. We can go to roll call.

33:31>> Okay. Let's have a roll Let's have a

33:33roll call vote.

33:34>> Commissioner Robert Jones,

33:35>> I am a no.

33:37>> Commissioner Beverly Watts.

33:38>> No.

33:39>> Commissioner Scotty Bowman.

33:40>> I.

33:41>> Commissioner Victoria Camille.

33:43>> Yes.

33:43>> Commissioner Eva DeWash.

33:45>> No.

33:46>> I'm sorry, ma'am.

33:48>> No.

33:48>> Commissioner Henrietta Ivy.

33:50>> Nay.

33:51>> Commissioner Darius Moore.

33:53>> No.

33:54>> Commissioner Lavish T. Williams.

33:56>> No.

33:56>> Commissioner Daryl Woods.

33:59>> Um, yes.

34:00>> And Commissioner Harvey Santana.

34:02>> No.

34:03>> The motion fails, sir.

34:05>> Thank you very much. With that, let us

34:07move on to the uh next individuals for

34:10the oral comments.

34:12Sir, you have the floor.

34:14>> Right behind me are two good people that

34:16take the bus and go to the bus meetings

34:18and I give out bus tickets and they're

34:20in the community and they want to thank

34:21DPD for protecting DOT. They think that

34:24DPD is doing an excellent job because

34:26they ride the bus every day and so they

34:28wanted to say thank you. They're a

34:30couple and they like I said they come to

34:32all the DOT hybrid meetings where we

34:34provide pizza raffles and and input

34:38about the bus system. So thank you DPD.

34:40Um 3134449114

34:433134449114

34:45313 444 9114. That number was made so

34:48you can remember it. I have done 10 free

34:52rides to the polls. I hope it's legal,

34:55but I've been taking them. If they flag

34:57me down, listening to my bullhorn,

34:59wherever I get them, take them to vote

35:02and take them back where I got them

35:03from. Uh so, uh we've done 10 and call

35:07that number and or send a text and then

35:12um I'll refer you to register.

35:16I'll refer you to register and it should

35:18be done like 30 minutes or less. Um

35:20there's a group called Warriors on

35:22Wheels Metro Detroit and uh they're

35:25providing free rides to the polls. Early

35:27voting, early voting and so please uh do

35:31so. The police have been harassing me

35:33all over town. They're saying I'm

35:36soliciting because I'm giving out free

35:38rides. I've got hand warmers, bus

35:40tickets, etc. I need y'all to pray about

35:42it. I don't know why they're bothering

35:44me everywhere I'm going since I changed

35:46the the bullhorn to talk about early

35:49voting since I'm talking about early

35:51voting now there's an issue or a

35:53problem. So I don't know only God's in

35:57control. I have a recorder I've been

35:58using and I've taken pictures and put it

36:01on my social media and they usually will

36:03back away once I do that. But uh I'm not

36:06doing any harm. We black, we poor, and

36:10we gots to vote.

36:12>> All right. And so pray for me, I'll pray

36:14for you. And they both were they they

36:17signed up. So just going to say thank

36:19you to you. Thank you.

36:20>> Thank you.

36:22>> Thank you very much. Thank you for your

36:24comments.

36:26>> Ma'am, are you you I'm sorry. Did I get

36:29this right that both of them have signed

36:31up? Is have they've been acknowledged or

36:33they're just here with you as your

36:34guest?

36:35>> State your name for the record. Please

36:37state your name for the record.

36:38>> I'm Stisha Johnson. I appreciate y'all

36:41for helping the DPP and thank y'all. I

36:44appreciate it.

36:46>> Thank you.

36:49>> Yes, sir.

36:50>> Yeah. My name is Chad Perry and I just

36:52want to give appreciation too for

36:55Detroit Police Department for protecting

36:58uh DOT and the rats and everything. Just

37:03keep it up. Thank you.

37:04>> Thank you, sir.

37:07>> Next speaker, please. Our next speakers

37:10will be Miss Williams, Mr. Dana Lung,

37:14and Miss Bernie Smith. Then we'll go

37:17into Zoom.

37:18>> Thank you.

37:22>> Hello through the chair. Um, I like to

37:24speak about housing. So, I was in the

37:28system for what 14 14 months, but the

37:33bottom line is I I never have been in

37:35the system. Thank the Lord Jesus Christ

37:36for that. But see, it's very unfortunate

37:39because the people a lot of people

37:42that's on DPD are receiving a housing

37:45voucher with their alias name. So my

37:48thing is you on the force with a alias

37:52in the same housing voucher that you

37:54receive with your alias name. I'm well

37:59my name is Charita Williams and I've

38:01been complaining about this woman. She's

38:03not in a system, but she's on a Detroit

38:05Police Department. And it's very

38:08unfortunate. Housing, property

38:11management,

38:13everything is connected with the city.

38:15So this is how they are stealing and

38:17committing fraud,

38:19low income. Absolutely, we all need

38:22help. But say at the end of the day,

38:24it's un it's illegal. You have to show

38:28your identification, your social

38:29security card, your birth certificate,

38:32and a license or state ID. So, what I'm

38:37saying is this is how they get on the

38:39force with these alias names. And we

38:42have nine Americans that work here also.

38:46And I don't have a problem helping

38:49anyone, but the people that's here in

38:51the United States legally need to have

38:54first choice. is not acceptable

38:58at all in transporting these weapons.

39:00Like I say, I don't care how you do it

39:02cuz guess what? That pictures is on the

39:05website with that alias name. You signed

39:08off on that weapon with that fake name

39:10and that's how you going to be going

39:12back to prison because of what you did.

39:14And if you are a non-American citizen,

39:17they going to deport you from this

39:19country. And that's the bottom line cuz

39:21I shouldn't have to live like this for

39:2318 months where I live at. and fake cops

39:25to stay.

39:26>> Thank you, ma'am. Your time is up.

39:30>> Next speaker, please.

39:32>> Mr. L.

39:34Um, first of all, uh, are you guys up

39:37for voting this November

39:41>> to vote you guys back in? When is your

39:43turn to be voted uh up the plate?

39:46>> I'm asking the question. I don't know

39:48what's so funny to you.

39:50>> I just asked a question. Sir, this is

39:52your two-minute time, so please continue

39:54with

39:55>> That's my question. Are you guys up for

39:56voting? Uh, is it time to vote you guys

40:00uh someone else back in your position?

40:02>> Are there any other comments after this?

40:04>> Yeah, there's plenty of other comments

40:05because what you what you guys just did

40:08to that young lady that was here, that

40:10was very disrespectful

40:12because that's a citizen of Detroit.

40:15What y'all did was what they did back in

40:171940, 1950, 1960. Why didn't y'all bring

40:21some dogs in? Why didn't you spray her

40:24down with something?

40:25>> Because she's a citizen of Detroit. Why

40:29didn't y'all knock the woman down?

40:31>> Because she had the right to speak.

40:33Y'all had to vote on that.

40:36What's a few minutes? You talk more than

40:38what y'all could have gave her that

40:39minute and a half.

40:41>> Why don't you just let the lady talk?

40:43You talk more than what that little time

40:45was.

40:46That's That's so ridiculous. You got to

40:49vote to let the lady say what she had to

40:51say.

40:53Somebody else said, "Let me let her have

40:55my time." That little time wasn't

40:58nothing. A time and something else.

41:02Y'all act like that's something. Y the

41:05the people of Detroit gave you the time

41:06to talk. Gave you the time to let us

41:09talk.

41:11You people y'all forget Coleman A. Young

41:14said 25 years always let a person of

41:17color run the city of Detroit

41:20>> since he died. But you guys don't know.

41:23Y'all don't have sense God gave a

41:25chicken.

41:26>> Y'all just like a box of rocks. The only

41:28way you move if you shake you.

41:32>> Your people ain't got I don't know

41:34what's wrong with y'all. The people of

41:36color. Y'all y'all lose everything. You

41:38want to go back to slavery.

41:40And if I was an officer, I would be I

41:43would feel like crap to touch that woman

41:45like that.

41:46>> Thank you, sir.

41:47>> Full of

41:48>> sir. Next speaker, please.

41:51>> Boy,

41:54>> next speaker, please.

41:59>> Can y'all help her out, please?

42:01>> Me and the good Lord are good friends.

42:04>> Thanks, baby.

42:06>> I got good news.

42:10Good afternoon.

42:11>> Good afternoon, Mother.

42:12>> You guys in trouble, but I'm going to

42:15bring you some good news. Look at this.

42:18You see who's on the cover.

42:22>> What does that tell you?

42:25I bring good news. I was there Saturday.

42:29It was beautiful. I let all of you know

42:33I had a good seat. And I was right about

42:35as far as you were close to him. And I

42:39said when he said good evening and so

42:42forth and greeted us and I said I worked

42:44with you on Chicago in 1908, he looked

42:48over there and he threw a kiss at me

42:50y'all and he said good luck. So, I'm I'm

42:54I'm Hey, I want I just want to let you

42:56know at my age, 94, you you'll be

43:00surprised

43:01how you you feel when somebody recognize

43:04you for the work that you've done

43:06because I did come from Chicago, born

43:08and raised there, and I worked in

43:09politics, and I worked for police and

43:12also the mayor there, just like I've

43:14done here in the city of Detroit. I love

43:17my city here. You have done good work.

43:20you're doing good work, but sometimes

43:22you do get off balance, you know, and

43:24they got to give you a trouble. And I

43:26just want to let you know, I got my

43:28autograph from him and he said, "Come

43:31back to Chicago whenever you feel like

43:34it." And I I felt good, y'all. You just

43:37don't know. I felt really good that I

43:39have been recognized by the president of

43:41the United States and a black man at

43:43that. So, I just want all of you to

43:46know, be good to each other, respect

43:49each other, and let us know that you

43:52care for each other. I was number one on

43:55this board n in 1973. I say it all the

43:59time because I'm proud of it. I was the

44:01first black woman on there. There was

44:04four other persons that was on there, a

44:07woman that was from a Latino, a Latino

44:09woman, president of the league. Then

44:12there was uh grosser uh association.

44:17So I'm proud.

44:18>> Thank you, Mother Smith.

44:21>> You always cut me off when I get good.

44:23>> I'm sorry.

44:23>> Well, thank you anyway. I appreciate you

44:25talking to for me.

44:26>> Thank you, babe.

44:27>> Thank you, ma'am.

44:28>> Thank you, dear.

44:29>> Mr. Chair, now we're going to Zoom.

44:31>> Yes, ma'am.

44:32>> Our first three speakers will be Zoom

44:35user

44:36uh Mr. Terron Hayes and former

44:40commissioner William Davis.

44:44>> Are you there, sir?

44:46>> Uh, yes I am.

44:47>> You may be heard.

44:49>> Perfect. I want to say uh Verdia Bowler,

44:52I'm very very sad you got put out, but

44:53uh you you you defended bad behavior a

44:56few weeks ago and those same officers

44:57who you defended their chief uh put you

44:59out. Also too, when you pick you pick

45:01the wrong side, you pay the

45:02consequences. Also, Daryl Woods is a

45:04city council. They cooning for Dan

45:06Gilbert. Maurice Hardawick who lives in

45:08Southfield uh and has a city of Detroit

45:10contract from CVI whether he has it

45:12right now or in the past he had a city

45:13of Detroit contract also uh was cooling

45:16for Dan Gilbert and he filed a false

45:18police report against myself August 5th

45:20at the request of his friend I will go

45:22on record to say they are friends the

45:24chief um and so Mr. Mallet, as

45:27corporation council, will you prosecute

45:29a person for filing a false police

45:31report? As you can look through the

45:33camera footage and show July 20th, 2026,

45:36there was a city council meeting with 40

45:38uniform police officers, including every

45:40assistant chief, Euing, Hayes, and Sloan

45:44in attendance for uh and there was

45:46supposed to be some alleged threats or

45:48whatever. There was nobody who reported

45:50any threats of any nature to any of the

45:5340 plus uniformed officers who sat

45:55there. And also there were two actually

45:57there were three border police

45:57commissioners meet. There were Daryl

45:58Woods, there was uh Darius Morris and

46:01there was uh Victoria Camille which

46:03Maurice Hardawick never went to any of

46:05those people and made any report. Also

46:08too um I just want to say uh so

46:11corporation council I emailed you uh I

46:14think a week ago about a matter. I like

46:15to have an email about that matter. And

46:17also corporation council I'mma pop it a

46:18little bit. Uh I'mma email you as I know

46:21you've seen because you went through my

46:22phone as well. I'mma email you my call

46:24log with your informant that you got

46:26this uh this fraudulent uh obtained

46:30um search warrant for I'mma email you

46:33the call log just so you got it on

46:34record beforehand. I'm get a little bit

46:36of discovery and also too I think that

46:38this board is uh just running terribly

46:41unfortunately. I think some people are

46:42are just I don't know purposely making

46:45this board not run so well. Thank you.

46:47>> Thank you sir. Next speaker please.

46:53Speaker, are you there?

46:55>> Yes. May I be heard?

46:56>> Yes, you may.

46:58>> Thank you. Terron Haynes, District 5.

47:00Hey, I'm just back again asking for the

47:02same things I've asked before. I want to

47:04make sure that I'm very clear. Y'all DPD

47:09need to make them calls and get them uh

47:13charges dropped against Alonzo. Uh he

47:15ran from y'all. True. But he had every

47:19reason to because y'all tried to kill

47:20him.

47:21>> And I said that and I know the

47:23commissioners can't say it. Y'all tried

47:25to kill him. So, drop those charges.

47:28Second off, um again, I'm asking, can

47:31somebody request from DPD? What is the

47:34status on this uh this this shot spotter

47:38study that has already been done, but

47:40DPD needs to do it again? What's going

47:42on with that? Has there any been any

47:44updates or are we still waiting and

47:46waiting and waiting until March when the

47:49contract comes back up for reevaluation

47:51by city council just for DPD to tell us

47:54that they didn't get the study done?

47:56Although this study was part of the

47:58reason why this contract got approved

48:01this past uh spring. Thank you. Have a

48:03good day.

48:04>> Thank you.

48:06Next speaker, please.

48:11>> Speaker, are you there? Good afternoon.

48:12Can I be heard?

48:13>> Yes, sir. You can.

48:15>> Well, I'd like to start out by strongly

48:18encouraging everyone who has not vote to

48:21vote. You can vote do early voting um up

48:24until Sunday and then you can vote on

48:27Tuesday. I'm personally voting on on

48:29Tuesday walking in voting. But we need a

48:33strong voter turnout. We need to improve

48:35our numbers. Our numbers look dismal and

48:38it varies from parts of Detroit has

48:41decent to some parts of Detroit has very

48:44very very low. So we need to work on

48:46getting our numbers up. We need to make

48:48sure that when people go to vote on

48:51election day and the ones who's going to

48:54the voting centers prior to that are

48:57protected and feel protected. Uh we want

48:59to make sure that Detroit is a model cit

49:02a model city for the nation and we need

49:05to do that by making sure more of us

49:08vote. Y'all have a great day and be

49:11safe.

49:13>> Thank you sir.

49:15>> Our next speaker is Jaylen Harris

49:18followed by Tanya Jackson and that'll be

49:20our last speaker.

49:22>> Thank you.

49:24Are you there

49:26speaker?

49:27>> Yes. You may be heard.

49:30>> Oh, yes. My name is Jaylen Harris. I'm

49:32calling because on two separate

49:34occasion, one was yesterday and one was

49:36August 20th, I was at a gas station on

49:39Finku and Meyers pumping my gas,

49:41drinking pop, and officers came up and

49:44detained me and illegally disfired me

49:49and also threatened to give me a

49:51citation. Um, the officers refused to

49:54give their names and badge number. Um,

49:56and then the officer threw my gun and my

49:59clip and threw it in the back of my car.

50:02Yesterday I was at the same gas station

50:05on Figo and Meyers uh, paying for gas. I

50:09hear a voice behind me says, "Where's

50:11your CPL?" I turned around, pulled out

50:13my phone, and started recording these

50:15officers. It was three officers.

50:17>> Um, I provided my CPL license. One of

50:21the officers snatched the CPO and my

50:23drug's license out of my hand. I said,

50:24"Hey, why you snatching?" The other

50:27officer says, "Put your hands behind

50:28your back." I said, "Well, I'm being

50:29detained."

50:30>> He said, "Yes." So, they detain me. He

50:33disassembled my gun completely, which is

50:36illegal to do.

50:38>> And also took my phone out of my hand

50:41while I was recording, while my hands

50:43was behind my back and pressed stopped

50:47stopped the recording, which is also

50:49illegal to do.

50:51Uh

50:54this is getting out of control. This is

50:55the second time a pending lawsuit

50:58against Detroit Police Department and uh

51:01the city of Detroit. Carwell uh

51:04Cardinal, you know, because again, I've

51:07been in contact with you.

51:10Something needs to happen and I expect

51:13this board to investigate. already filed

51:15a complaint uh for the August 20th

51:18incident and still haven't heard

51:19anything regarding uh my complaint. I'm

51:21here at the second precinct currently

51:24um to file the other complaint from

51:27yesterday.

51:29So again, thank you.

51:31>> Thank you, sir.

51:36>> Chief Warfield.

51:36>> Chief Warfield

51:38>> through the chair. Our staff is

51:40currently uh checking on his complaint

51:43status right now and the investigation

51:45the status of the investigation. So I

51:47should be able to give you update.

51:49>> Thank you sir. Next speaker please.

51:53>> Can I be heard?

51:54>> Yes ma'am. You may.

51:56>> So what I was really calling in to talk

51:59about I'mma save that for another time.

52:03I want to speak on how disrespectful

52:05y'all is on this board. very

52:08disrespectful.

52:10The fact that that lady was removed like

52:14that is unacceptable. She probably older

52:18than y'all mama's or might be y'all

52:20grandma's age or something. That's

52:21disrespectful. Student chair, Mr. Woods,

52:24you are very disrespectful. The fact

52:26that you sit on that board on this hot

52:29horse laughing when people say something

52:31or anytime somebody speak stuff as a

52:33joke. It's not funny. You're too old for

52:36that. It's not funny at all. Every time

52:38somebody say something, you gotta laugh.

52:41What's funny about it?

52:43>> What's funny? Can you answer that? A lot

52:46of y'all on that board will really be a

52:47nobody. Do y'all know the people voted

52:50y'all in Darius? You telling this man,

52:53boy, by you. How old? That was

52:56disrespectful. Y'all are disrespectful.

52:59Y'all want people to talk to y'all with

53:01the respect. Respect y'all like y'all

53:03humans. Y'all don't do that to people.

53:05It's not right at all. But then again,

53:08y'all don't even take up for women.

53:10Y'all just sit there cowards just

53:13sitting there just laughing. It's not

53:15funny. I cannot wait until it's time to

53:18replace all y'all except Camille. She

53:20the only one and Scotty with sex and

53:23respect people and want people to be

53:25heard. Y'all sitting on this high horse

53:27as y'all on the board when a lot of

53:29y'all shouldn't even be up there. Ivy,

53:31you know you suck. I wonder when it's

53:33time for your daughter if she ever get

53:35in some trouble. When she come to the

53:37board, I think she a a sergeant,

53:39lieutenant, whatever she is. When when

53:40it's time for your daughter to come to

53:42the board, are you going to be biased?

53:43Would you have to have a close session

53:45on your daughter? Y'all suck. All y'all

53:48y'all need to respect people. Y'all

53:50disgusting. Y'all too old for that.

53:52Y'all men are disgusting. Y'all cowards.

53:55Y'all don't Y'all feel like somebody cuz

53:56y'all on the board. Y'all probably was

53:58laying y'all.

54:00>> Thank you, ma'am. Is that the last

54:02speaker?

54:03>> Should be.

54:04>> Thank you. Please let the uh records

54:06reflect that we have been joined by

54:08Commissioner Lisa Carter.

54:11>> At this time, we will move to uh the

54:14report.

54:14>> Mr. Chair,

54:15>> I'm sorry. I forgot that. Uh questions.

54:17I am so sorry, Commissioner Camille.

54:19>> I was first.

54:20>> Oh, I'm sorry. Vice Chair Watson, then

54:23Commissioner Camille.

54:25>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh I just have two

54:27comments and and uh one comment and one

54:30question for the deputy chief. Uh first

54:32of all just for myself I just want to

54:33make clear uh my comments earlier about

54:36the motion that was presented to make uh

54:39uh extend an exception this time during

54:41public comment. Uh my comments were not

54:44to suppress anyone's voice uh from

54:47talking. My comment was to make sure it

54:49was equally uh offered to everyone uh

54:52because I feel everyone uh message is

54:54important and so if we're going to make

54:56an exception for any individual with an

54:59important message I feel that should be

55:01extended this day this time for everyone

55:04in the room and on the line. Uh my next

55:06question is to deputy chief going back

55:08to the shot spotter that's a good

55:10comment. Do you have any update of where

55:12we are with that process

55:15>> through through the uh through the

55:18chair? So I am aware that that project

55:20is still being worked on. Um I can get

55:22an update on the status of it. Um but

55:24there were uh several different areas um

55:26that we are working on and exploring. So

55:28I'll get an update for the board.

55:30>> Okay. Thank you. Because I do recall the

55:32timeline you were speaking about six

55:33months and and again we going into

55:35November uh this weekend. So that is a

55:38good point. where are we in that process

55:40of doing your research for that very

55:42important issue. So, as soon as you can

55:43get us a status update, hopefully by uh

55:46our next meeting next week or sooner, uh

55:48we'll be thankful for that

55:49>> through the chair. Absolutely.

55:51>> Thank you, Commissioner Camille.

55:54>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

55:56Um I just in regards to the public

55:59comments that were shared today, I just

56:01um want to address something to my

56:03colleagues because we have just over

56:06three more years left of our terms

56:08together. And I would just ask us to be

56:11mindful of our tendency to not yield to

56:14the community.

56:16Our reason for existence is them. And we

56:20sometimes spend more time debating how

56:23to restrict the community's voice than

56:25the time it would take to just let them

56:26talk.

56:28Between debates about not wanting to

56:30hold public meeting, public hearings,

56:32cancelling community meetings, and not

56:35letting somebody transfer a minute and a

56:37half is senseless and oppressive, and I

56:40will continue to vote against actions

56:42like this. The trend I'm seeing is not

56:45good.

56:47>> Thank you, Commissioner. Camille,

56:48Commissioner Bowman.

56:51>> Okay. First, um there's a couple things.

56:53Um

56:54>> Yes, sir.

56:54>> the chair. And um first of all, I just

56:57wanted to address the general um and

56:59this is been a recurring thing, but I

57:01just want to address again that um for

57:05in case anyone in the public is

57:07concerned when they're hearing certain

57:08issues brought up,

57:11I I believe the department has made it

57:14quite clear that they do thoroughly

57:17investigate

57:19um their new members to ensure that they

57:23are citizens, United States citizen.

57:25citens as well as verifying their

57:27identities. Uh they're probably as good

57:31as anybody at doing that.

57:34So I'll take them at their word on that

57:36unless I'm have another re a reason not

57:38to and I haven't been given a reason not

57:40to. Um furthermore, now regarding that

57:44other discussion, uh I would be making

57:47and I would have made a motion earlier

57:49to um allow the granting the yielding of

57:53time.

57:54Um had it been clear that it was an

57:57order, but I heard a commissioner

57:59mention that, in other words, as a

58:01general rule moving forward, I heard a

58:04commissioner mention concern about

58:06whether or not there was any rule

58:09preventing us from doing that. and

58:11seeking to find out. So, I would be

58:13interested in um by the next meeting

58:15hearing from the parliamentarian

58:18with um a conclusion as to whether or

58:20not if we wish

58:23we can change the policy to allow for

58:26members of the community to yield time

58:28to other members. Um the chairman.

58:31>> Yes.

58:32>> Uh madame parliamentarian.

58:34>> Yeah. I I I want to respond about this

58:37issue. Parliamentarian has no position

58:39on it. That's not my business. What I do

58:42want the part the board to understand is

58:44Roberts is very clear that uh a member

58:47cannot

58:49um assign their time to someone else.

58:52Now, what the parliamentarian would

58:55advise that if the board wants to have a

58:59special order, special rule of order

59:02that will allow the public to yield its

59:05time that you consider putting a limit

59:08on that or you could end up with enough

59:10people coming up to yield time to

59:12somebody for an hour,

59:15somebody for 40 minutes. Now, if that's

59:17not a problem, then parliamentarian's

59:19fine with that. But I just want to point

59:22out that just having a special rule of

59:25order that says a a person can yield

59:28their time, if you don't put a limit on

59:30it, it could end up being an hour and a

59:32half that that people yield their time

59:35to one person.

59:36>> And and based on my experience with the

59:38board, I'm not sure that's what you

59:40would want. So, with a special rule of

59:43order, the special rule of order would

59:45be to allow the the public to yield a

59:49time and then you would need to think

59:51about if you want to put a limit on that

59:54or not. So, I'll be at the meeting next

59:57week. That's my normal time to be at the

59:59meeting. I'm just as a citizen today,

1:00:02but uh if someone wants help crafting

1:00:04that language, I would be u more than um

1:00:07welcome to um I'd be more than happy to

1:00:10assist.

1:00:12Uh, thank you, Madam Parliamentarian.

1:00:14Commissioner Bowman, were you through?

1:00:15I'm sorry.

1:00:16>> Um, I guess there was just one more

1:00:18thing I was going to add is meanwhile

1:00:20there is um a way to accomplish that

1:00:24without changing any rules and without

1:00:26any special votes. And that is if you're

1:00:29a community member and you are

1:00:31supporting another community member and

1:00:33you know the person, you can always talk

1:00:36ahead and split the message up between

1:00:39you. So when one person's done, the

1:00:42other person can step up. Um, and that

1:00:47is a way to do it without yielding any

1:00:50time other than using the time you

1:00:52already have by our current rules to

1:00:54speak for two minutes.

1:00:57Thank you, Commissioner. Anything else?

1:00:59>> No, I'm I'm on that now.

1:01:00>> Thank you, sir. Commissioner Woods.

1:01:03>> Uh, yes. Uh, I just the reason I made

1:01:06the motion because that we have done it

1:01:09uh numerous times and allow people to go

1:01:12over their time, you know. So it was not

1:01:16a a a big deal in the sense that it has

1:01:22has happened on a number of occasion

1:01:24where people go over their time whether

1:01:26they went 1 second, 2 seconds, 10

1:01:28seconds or whatever. Uh uh and and some

1:01:32went longer than that you know uh we

1:01:35have also have made accommodations uh

1:01:38with those who have uh handicaps and

1:01:41things of that nature. And so that's,

1:01:43you know, I I didn't see a problem um

1:01:46with that. And uh and it is, you could

1:01:50be very judicious with it, you know, and

1:01:52so but you know, I I would bel. But this

1:01:55uh Miss Butler uh did address this to

1:01:59the board of police commissioners and

1:02:01and did submit it. And so I I would like

1:02:05a motion make a motion to uh receive

1:02:09this as uh you know uh incoming mail and

1:02:15um public comment you know cuz you can

1:02:17submit public comment in writing uh as

1:02:21well. And so I I'll make a motion to

1:02:24accept this as uh a public comment in

1:02:27writing and that it'll be posted on our

1:02:30Facebook page as well and or our website

1:02:34as all other public comment is.

1:02:39>> I'll second that motion so we can go

1:02:41into discussion.

1:02:44>> We all see

1:02:46she just gave it she got it addressed.

1:02:50So, we do have a motion on the floor uh

1:02:52that's been introduced I'm sorry. I'm

1:02:55sorry. That's been introduced

1:02:58by uh Commissioner Woods and it has been

1:03:01supported by uh Commissioner Camille. Is

1:03:04there any discussion on the motion or

1:03:07Vice Chair Watts?

1:03:09>> Yes. Thank you, uh Mr. Chair. And also

1:03:11like to say this, this is just not for

1:03:13this occurrence, but if anyone and and

1:03:15and maybe I don't know, I'm sure the

1:03:16parliamentarian don't have to speak on

1:03:18this one, but if anyone wants to make a

1:03:20presentation to the board opposed to

1:03:22coming through an oral comment, can they

1:03:24just uh be under presentation? Just ask

1:03:26the board and say, "Hey, I want to come

1:03:28and I want to make a presentation about

1:03:30any particular item

1:03:31>> for sure." and still that way and move

1:03:33it from under oral communications where

1:03:35the rule is two minutes unless the chair

1:03:37amends that based upon the topic and the

1:03:39number of people want to speak during

1:03:41oral comments. I would recommend that

1:03:43they just make a ask and add it to the

1:03:45agenda as a presentation.

1:03:47>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1:03:49>> Uh, Commissioner Camille.

1:03:51>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have a question

1:03:53for Commissioner Woods. Can you just

1:03:55clarify? I believe you mentioned that it

1:03:58will be posted on Facebook or the

1:04:00website where we typically post public

1:04:04comments. I haven't seen where that is.

1:04:06So, can we get clarification from staff

1:04:08if we have an established location for

1:04:10that or if that would be new?

1:04:13>> Yes. Uh, excuse me. I'm I'm sorry.

1:04:17um all public comment is made public,

1:04:21you know, and so when you have um

1:04:25written public comment, that must be

1:04:27made public as well from my

1:04:29understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.

1:04:30Uh corporation council. Yeah. So if this

1:04:34is accepted on as written public

1:04:39comment, you know, then it could be

1:04:40posted as all other public comment is.

1:04:44Um um Chief Warfield.

1:04:48>> Yes, sir.

1:04:49>> Through the chair. We can uh get back to

1:04:51the board to find out where that

1:04:53information is kept and let you know

1:04:55next week.

1:04:56>> Okay. Um but we'll have this posted. If

1:05:00we move on this motion, it'll be posted

1:05:03forth with Okay. Yeah. Anything else,

1:05:07Commissioner Camille?

1:05:08>> No, that's all, Mr. Chair.

1:05:09>> Commissioner Morris.

1:05:09>> Yeah. Like I said, I just have a uh

1:05:11issue with the preferential treatment.

1:05:14>> You know, a lot of times there people

1:05:16come up here and get comments, you know,

1:05:18even against us that we don't like, but

1:05:20we still have to be nonbiased. So, in

1:05:22the event that that does happen, and

1:05:24that's going to happen, then I would uh

1:05:27make the same motion um that the

1:05:30extension in time be granted to Mr.

1:05:32Jante Smith. Uh, the time should be

1:05:35granted, the additional time to Miss

1:05:37Williams. The additional time should be

1:05:39granted to Miss Bernese Smith. And I'll

1:05:41make those motions for the for them to

1:05:43have the extended amount of time, too,

1:05:45because they come down here regularly.

1:05:47They take time out their schedule

1:05:49regularly. Um, you know, it it it cost

1:05:53them gas to get here. And they are

1:05:55regulars. And so, um, I I believe that

1:05:59they should be allowed the same respect

1:06:01as well. So I think it should be all

1:06:03across the board. We shouldn't be just

1:06:05giving granting time to people who we

1:06:07agree with and want to hear from. It

1:06:09should be granted to people who uh may

1:06:12say some things that we we we don't want

1:06:14to hear. So it's either it goes across

1:06:16the board or if it's not given to one

1:06:19person should if it's not given to

1:06:21everyone everyone and shouldn't be given

1:06:23to just one person. And that's just

1:06:25where I'm at with that.

1:06:27Uh, thank you, Commissioner Morris,

1:06:30Commissioner Bowman, and then

1:06:31Commissioner.

1:06:32>> Yeah, if it's in order for me to get

1:06:34called on again, I'm not sure, but um I

1:06:37just I guess couple things. First of

1:06:38all, I noticed um informationwise.

1:06:42Um Facebook, I'm looking at it. There

1:06:44isn't any posting of the incoming public

1:06:48comments. And I know I had brought this

1:06:49up and asked about it before when we

1:06:51were having the discussion on um having

1:06:55comments via Zoom um a while back. So

1:06:59yeah, I don't see it anywhere. That's

1:07:01one thing. Um, another is just, and I

1:07:05know we'll I'm not going to make a

1:07:07motion about this till next week, but

1:07:09um,

1:07:11my thought about the yielding idea is if

1:07:16an idea, if someone has content that is

1:07:19interesting enough to get that

1:07:21exception, then it should be interesting

1:07:23enough to attract the support of another

1:07:25community member. And as far as

1:07:28absorption of time, if you got a dozen

1:07:31community members who are willing to

1:07:33yield the time, those same dozen

1:07:35community members could take up two

1:07:37minutes a piece anyway if they didn't

1:07:40yield the time. So anyway, that's all

1:07:42I'm going to say about it.

1:07:44>> Thank you, Commissioner Bowman. Did I

1:07:46miss anybody's hand?

1:07:50>> That's what I thought.

1:07:52>> Praise the Lord.

1:07:57I will say this in terms of it was a

1:08:00comment about me smiling or uh laughing.

1:08:03I be smiling when people be uh talking

1:08:07terrible about me cuz I think it's a

1:08:08joke, you know. Uh so uh I I don't smile

1:08:14at no one pain or no one issue. I help

1:08:17in those regards. I minister to people

1:08:20pain and help people in their suffering.

1:08:23And so I absolutely

1:08:26uh smile uh uh when people may call me

1:08:30out my name uh or say negative things

1:08:34about me. Uh I keep a smile on my face

1:08:37cuz I don't allow nobody to steal my

1:08:39joy.

1:08:39>> There you go. All right.

1:08:41>> Thank you, Commissioner Williams.

1:08:42>> Yeah. I just want to um echo and agree

1:08:45with everything Commissioner Moore said

1:08:48as as far as um if you're going to give

1:08:51time to some, you got to give it to all.

1:08:53>> Mhm.

1:08:54>> And that's that's just that's just how I

1:08:56feel about it, you know. Um

1:08:59>> I don't want to sit up here and, you

1:09:02know, people on the left,

1:09:05they get the they get the special

1:09:06treatment, but then when the people on

1:09:08the right come along, we shoot them

1:09:10down. It got to be fair across the

1:09:13board.

1:09:15>> That's all I really got to say. I'm just

1:09:17agreeing with what, you know, what he

1:09:18said. I strongly believe in that.

1:09:21>> Thank you, dude. I hear

1:09:22>> and I I don't want to take away from

1:09:23people being able to speak, but if you

1:09:25can if if one can speak, we all should

1:09:27speak.

1:09:29>> Thank you. Uh, Commissioner Camille.

1:09:31>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I you know I do I

1:09:34agree that routinely or or

1:09:39you know um selectively giving people

1:09:43extra time is risky. I know sometimes

1:09:45the chair will if someone's in the

1:09:47middle of a sentence or especially for

1:09:49those who are sharing a story that's

1:09:51very challenging allow that extra time.

1:09:54I don't have a problem with that. And

1:09:55that's why I am an advocate for the

1:09:59yielding of time process because as

1:10:02Commissioner Bowman mentioned, if a

1:10:05person's information is important enough

1:10:08that they have other support from

1:10:10community members to talk longer and

1:10:12they're willing to come yield their

1:10:13time, that's a way for them to get

1:10:16additional time without being given any

1:10:19preferential treatment because they're

1:10:21getting the time of another person. And

1:10:23for us, it's it's no different. If we

1:10:26let five people speak for two minutes

1:10:28each or we let one person speak for 10

1:10:30minutes, it's the same amount of time

1:10:32for us either way. And so to restrict

1:10:35that

1:10:37just it just it seems like it devalues

1:10:40what the person is trying to say just

1:10:43because they're using the 10 minutes

1:10:45instead of the 10 minutes being split up

1:10:47between five different people. And so I

1:10:50know the parliamentarian is going to

1:10:52assist with some language for a special

1:10:54rule. Again, we don't have a special

1:10:56rule on the books. There's nothing in

1:10:58the bylaws that prevents that right now.

1:11:00I believe it's very inappropriate

1:11:03um that we don't consider and we act

1:11:06like we have to go through all these

1:11:08changes to allow for it. Um but I will

1:11:11be an advocate for allowing for the

1:11:12yielding of time.

1:11:14>> Mr. Chairman,

1:11:15>> thank you, Commissioner Camille. Uh,

1:11:17madame parliamentarian.

1:11:20>> Yeah. The the board of the board of

1:11:22police commissioners bylaw states that

1:11:24Robert rules of order um is your

1:11:27parliamentary authority. And your

1:11:28parliamentary authority says very

1:11:29clearly that uh rights in regards to

1:11:32debate are not transferable. So where

1:11:35your bylaws or rules are silent, your

1:11:37parliamentary authority kicks in and

1:11:39that's why you cannot yield time.

1:11:41However, the motion on the floor is to

1:11:44post the statement by the member to the

1:11:48Facebook page. All of this discussion

1:11:51about yielding and so forth is not

1:11:54gerine to the motion. The motion is

1:11:57about posting that u statement that she

1:12:00submitted and all comments should be on

1:12:03posting the statement not the issue of

1:12:06yielding. That's not germaine to the

1:12:08motion that is pending.

1:12:10Thank you, Madam Parliamentarian.

1:12:13Vice Chair Watts.

1:12:14>> Yes. And I'm just going to uh this is my

1:12:16final comment on this topic. Again, uh I

1:12:19will continue to advocate, of course,

1:12:21for everyone's voice to be heard. I just

1:12:23want to make sure it's consistent among

1:12:25everyone in the room or on the line. I

1:12:28reject any sentiment by any, especially

1:12:31fellow commissioners, that will make a

1:12:33reference that the trend is trying to

1:12:35stifle the public's voice to be heard.

1:12:38That is not true from my perspective and

1:12:41I was elected. So there will never be a

1:12:43time when I am trying to get policies go

1:12:47down a rabbit hole on trying to suppress

1:12:51the public's voice because even while I

1:12:54sit here and on my off time I am in my

1:12:57community and that's what I'm doing

1:12:59listening to the public online in person

1:13:02let them call me anything. So, there was

1:13:05a reference made and I don't see where

1:13:07we're going down a rabbit hole to stifen

1:13:09the public's voice. That's very

1:13:11dangerous to state that because that's

1:13:13simply not true. A lot of us do a lot of

1:13:15work in a lot of different ways to

1:13:17really engage our constituents every

1:13:19day. You may not like all the times of

1:13:22our opinion of where we land on, but you

1:13:24can always, and I can definitely say

1:13:26some of my colleagues, they fight very

1:13:28hard for their constituents, and it's

1:13:30not to stifle anyone's voice. So that's

1:13:32not a rabbit hole or a trend that I feel

1:13:35that we've been going down completely.

1:13:37That's the opposite. But again, I will

1:13:39always be standing on the side for not

1:13:41only District Five members across this

1:13:43city of Detroit because I am the vice

1:13:45chair, but I also will make sure any

1:13:47rule that we have is equal to everyone

1:13:50whether they're in this room or online.

1:13:52Thank you.

1:13:53>> Uh thank you, Vice Chair Watts.

1:13:55Commissioner Morris.

1:13:57>> Yes. as it relates to that document

1:13:59being published uh to Facebook. Um I

1:14:03would ask that um we refer that matter

1:14:08to corporation council um due to the

1:14:11fact that if if that is being published

1:14:14to the board of police commissioners

1:14:15Facebook page, I do not want it to give

1:14:18an appearance as though the entire board

1:14:21agrees with the contents of what's being

1:14:24said in that document. And I don't even

1:14:26I didn't even get that. So I don't even

1:14:28know what it says. So I think it should

1:14:30be referred over to corporation council

1:14:32so we can get guidance on how to uh

1:14:35publish that and and and do it in a way

1:14:39so that it doesn't get the appearance

1:14:41that the board endorses or agrees

1:14:43>> to what the contents of it.

1:14:45>> Thank you, Commissioner Morris.

1:14:47Commissioner Ivy.

1:14:48>> Thank you, Chair. I'm standing in 100%

1:14:50agreeance with my colleague uh Vice

1:14:52Chair uh Watts. Let me be clear.

1:14:56When we make statements in front of the

1:14:59public that shows division amongst this

1:15:01board, this is why we get a lot of the

1:15:03rhetoric and a lot of the the insults

1:15:05that we get. No one on this board, and

1:15:07I've said it before and I'll say it

1:15:08again, is trying to stifle anybody's

1:15:11voice ever. There are rules that need to

1:15:13be followed and that's it. And once we

1:15:16can make some amendment to those rules

1:15:18to allow these additional amendments to

1:15:20be given over to another citizen, that

1:15:22will happen. But to say that we're here

1:15:24to stop a voice or everyone's running

1:15:26around talking about what this and that,

1:15:28it's just it's just poor appearance. And

1:15:31I don't feel like we need to have poor

1:15:33appearance on all the work that we're

1:15:36actually doing. So, let's be careful of

1:15:38how we address and say what we say in

1:15:41front of our our constituents and

1:15:43communities because I'm one on that

1:15:45board who's busting my behind every day.

1:15:47Everybody's out here in their

1:15:49communities doing their jobs. No one is

1:15:51telling no one they can come up and not

1:15:53give their minutes. We just have to

1:15:54figure out a way to let it happen and

1:15:56that's it. And we can all stand in

1:15:58agreeance of saying, "Hey, let's figure

1:15:59out a way to make this happen so

1:16:01everyone can be heard additionally or

1:16:03however." But never to say that we're

1:16:05here stifling voices and trying to tell

1:16:07people they can't speak and we're

1:16:08talking about civil rights in 1964 this

1:16:11and that. We got nowhere trying to do

1:16:13that to anyone.

1:16:15>> Thank you, Commissioner Ivy. Did I see

1:16:17one more?

1:16:20Commissioner Bowman.

1:16:22>> Oh Jesus.

1:16:24>> Like to amend by substitution

1:16:28that the that all

1:16:31written public comments

1:16:34be posted to the BOPC Facebook page.

1:16:41Is there uh support for that motion?

1:16:46Is there support for that motion?

1:16:49Is there support for that motion

1:16:52>> hearing? None. The motion dies.

1:16:54>> We

1:16:55>> I ain't supporting it, but I'm just the

1:16:58Let me clarify

1:17:01uh this clearly.

1:17:03This whether it goes on the website, I

1:17:06said wherever they receive it at, we

1:17:09receive

1:17:11uh written public. when we do re receive

1:17:14written public uh comment that is for

1:17:18public consumption

1:17:20and so whether it go on the website or

1:17:22wherever the BOBC puts it at that's the

1:17:26intent intention of this and so this is

1:17:29all about doing what is by law to be

1:17:34done you know is to publish uh the

1:17:37public comment because it's a part of

1:17:39the record and that's all

1:17:42>> Mr. Mr. Chair,

1:17:43>> Commissioner Camille.

1:17:44>> Motion to amend the current um motion on

1:17:48the floor. I'd like to amend the motion

1:17:52to specify where it'll be published.

1:17:55>> Mhm.

1:17:56>> Um and that will be to publish it under

1:18:00the meeting documents for today's

1:18:02meeting

1:18:03where all the other documents are.

1:18:06>> Second.

1:18:09>> Thank you. So, uh, Commissioner Camille,

1:18:10can you make that motion again, please?

1:18:12I'm sorry.

1:18:12>> I move to amend the motion to have the

1:18:18public comment received by Miss Butler

1:18:20published under the

1:18:23documents for today's meeting on our

1:18:26website.

1:18:27>> Thank you. And it been it's been

1:18:28supported by uh, Commissioner Woods.

1:18:31Discussion.

1:18:32>> Yes,

1:18:33>> Morris. Yes, Chair. Uh, I want clarity.

1:18:36Would this apply to anyone who's making

1:18:40public?

1:18:40>> Absolutely.

1:18:41>> Regardless of it's inappropriate if they

1:18:43offering per their body parts as you

1:18:44said.

1:18:45>> Well, they can't do that. That's

1:18:46illegal. So, what are the what are the

1:18:48what are the the perimeters and and and

1:18:51like I said, I would like before we do

1:18:53something like that, uh some wording or

1:18:56something that can be added in there

1:18:57from corporation council that pretty

1:18:59much says that what's being published to

1:19:02the social media and the platforms are

1:19:05not endorsed by the this board and that

1:19:10is that it does not have our blessings.

1:19:12Let me just before if I'm not mistaken

1:19:16and uh commission

1:19:18>> if I'm not mistaken uh Commissioner

1:19:20Camille your uh subsequent motion was

1:19:23that this document uh be on the posting

1:19:26for today's meeting. Is that correct?

1:19:29>> That's correct, Mr. Chair. Not on not on

1:19:31any social media, but

1:19:34>> So, if I can just clarify the location,

1:19:36please?

1:19:37>> Yes, ma'am.

1:19:37>> Thank you. So, um, on the city of

1:19:40Detroit website, there's an events page

1:19:43where we find our actual meetings. And

1:19:45when you go into today's meeting,

1:19:47there's a list of documents. There's the

1:19:48agenda, the minutes from last week, um,

1:19:52incoming correspondence that the board

1:19:54is making public. And this is basically

1:19:57an incoming correspondence for today's

1:19:59meeting. And that's why I recommended

1:20:01that that's the appropriate place for

1:20:03it. to Commissioner Morris's um point

1:20:07because I do want this to be fair for

1:20:10all community members that sent in

1:20:11written public comment. However, we have

1:20:13to be mindful that not every person that

1:20:16emails us or hands us a document is

1:20:20asking for it to be public,

1:20:22>> right? And so we need to make sure that

1:20:24we're confirming, is this a public

1:20:27comment or are you sending something for

1:20:30the board to address amongst ourselves?

1:20:34And clearly we know Miss Butler's is

1:20:36public because she was reading it. Um,

1:20:39but there may be other cases that we

1:20:41have that we need staff to ask those

1:20:43questions and make sure that we are

1:20:46following the wishes of the person who's

1:20:48submitting the correspondence. Thank

1:20:51you, Commissioner Camille. Commissioner

1:20:52Woods.

1:20:54>> Oh, I'm sorry.

1:20:55>> Yep. Uh,

1:20:56>> Commissioner Santana.

1:20:59>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I promised myself

1:21:01I wasn't going to say anything or ask

1:21:03any questions today because I'm the new

1:21:04guy.

1:21:06>> However, we have gone down a very deep

1:21:09rabbit hole,

1:21:10>> big time.

1:21:10>> And I there's a difference between

1:21:13reactionary and responsive. I would

1:21:16prefer for this body to lay this motion

1:21:18on the table maybe till next week until

1:21:20this issue is a better thought out and

1:21:23we can work through the parliamentarian

1:21:25to figure out exactly what the language

1:21:26and emotion would be in order to show uh

1:21:30respect to the community who would like

1:21:32to come here and say something um and

1:21:35and not be reactionary because uh we

1:21:38think we owe a debt right now to make an

1:21:40immediate response.

1:21:42>> Support I will support Taylor. support.

1:21:45The proper motion is not to lay on the

1:21:47table,

1:21:48>> right?

1:21:48>> The proper motion would be to postpone.

1:21:51>> Sorry, new guy.

1:21:55>> Thank you. Uh, so thank you. Uh,

1:22:00>> postpone,

1:22:01>> she said.

1:22:01>> Yeah, you're going to amend it to

1:22:03postpone. Correct.

1:22:03>> Yes, Mr. Chair. I would amend to

1:22:05postpone this uh until the next meeting.

1:22:08Support.

1:22:08>> It is not a motion to amend.

1:22:11>> It's a promotion motion to postpone. It

1:22:13is a motion to postpone which takes

1:22:15higher proceedings over the pending

1:22:18motion

1:22:19>> to to um in fact what would happen is

1:22:23the main motion which was to post it and

1:22:26the amendment proposed by Commissioner

1:22:28Camille would all be under the motion to

1:22:31postpone.

1:22:33And so you would postpone the main

1:22:36motion and the pending amendment because

1:22:39you do have a pending amendment would be

1:22:41postponed to next week.

1:22:44Motion to postpone

1:22:46an amendment and the pending amendment

1:22:49>> support.

1:22:50>> Thank you. We do have a motion on the

1:22:53floor to postpone uh until next week. Uh

1:22:57is there any discussion on the motion?

1:22:59>> Yes, it is.

1:23:00>> Commissioner Woods.

1:23:01>> Yes. Uh what what I'm afraid of and we

1:23:04can get clarification from corporation

1:23:06council is is that if this is a um

1:23:10public comment,

1:23:12>> you know, uh uh it is subject to the

1:23:15record. And so really a motion ain't

1:23:18really needed uh uh in no shape, form or

1:23:21fashion. Uh because this is public

1:23:25comment and and and it's it's by law. we

1:23:29have to um post it and you know and yeah

1:23:34by law is if I'm correct uh corporation

1:23:37council correct me if I'm wrong

1:23:40>> corporate council

1:23:41>> through the chair

1:23:44>> through the chair commissioner is

1:23:46correct you've got a written document

1:23:48here submitted under public comment

1:23:50which needs to be published where it's

1:23:52published commissioner Camille I think

1:23:54gave you a reasonable place where uh uh

1:23:58it could be published. Uh the bottom

1:24:01line is the Commissioner Morris, your

1:24:03concern that everybody be treated

1:24:05fairly. if they submit something in

1:24:08writing

1:24:09>> that they are not repeating for the uh

1:24:13uh uh recorded record and they just want

1:24:16it to be to to be published here. And it

1:24:19is and and remember just because you

1:24:22have a first amendment right doesn't

1:24:24mean that you have the opportunity to be

1:24:26offensive and to use curse words and

1:24:28everything else like that. And so you

1:24:31can be critical, but you have to also of

1:24:34course be courteous and careful.

1:24:36>> So the the if if if someone wants to

1:24:39attack me, have at it. Uh but they they

1:24:42they need to they need to manage their

1:24:45use of the language appropriately.

1:24:47That's all I'm saying. So in this

1:24:49particular instance,

1:24:51uh uh there should be a place, Mr.

1:24:54Chair, where written public comments are

1:24:57published.

1:24:59Commissioner Camille has given you a

1:25:01place where they could be published.

1:25:03>> The board needs to make a decision. Uh I

1:25:06do think that Commissioner Santana's

1:25:08observation that we have really beat

1:25:11this to death.

1:25:12>> Yeah.

1:25:12>> Uh is is is

1:25:16>> is is

1:25:17quite correct. The other thing that I'll

1:25:19say is is that

1:25:22uh vice chair watch's suggestion about

1:25:24presentations

1:25:26the that's going to be let's be clear

1:25:29it's going to be a board decision.

1:25:31>> Yes.

1:25:32>> John Jones Sally Smith wants to make a

1:25:35presentation they need to submit. Now

1:25:38we've had that before.

1:25:39>> Right.

1:25:40>> Uh let me speak to it directly so that

1:25:42there's no confusion. We had some towers

1:25:44who wanted to come

1:25:46>> uh and submit and I indicated uh that

1:25:49that would be inappropriate under the

1:25:51circumstances because at the time you

1:25:54all were considering whatever it is the

1:25:57towing commission working with the

1:25:59auditor general that would have been

1:26:01inappropriate but uh if if what they

1:26:04were doing was a general presentation on

1:26:07how towing works is completely different

1:26:10but it's up to the board

1:26:11>> right BOPC C acts as a board. You get

1:26:15enough votes, you can you can uh make a

1:26:17presentation. So that's that's that's

1:26:20where we are.

1:26:21>> Thank you. Corporate council

1:26:24making sure I am not overlooking anyone.

1:26:27>> Now you now be before the

1:26:30parliamentarian speech, Mr. Chairman,

1:26:32you've got

1:26:34uh Commissioner Santana's motion on the

1:26:36floor.

1:26:37>> Correct. Yes, sir. You can't just move

1:26:39past it just because a rational thought

1:26:41has been voiced.

1:26:43>> Yeah, I'm not overlooking his motion.

1:26:44His will be the first to be considered.

1:26:47>> Is there any other discussion on uh

1:26:50Commissioner Santana's motion? His

1:26:52motion is to postpone

1:26:55uh until next week what we are

1:26:57discussing now and it has received

1:26:59support. Is there any discussion on

1:27:00Commissioner Santana's motion?

1:27:03Hearing none, let us do a roll call

1:27:05vote.

1:27:11No,

1:27:12>> Commissioner Watts.

1:27:15>> Huh?

1:27:17>> Commissioner Watts.

1:27:18>> Yes. But I mean, um, based upon what

1:27:21Corp counsel just said, I'm not even

1:27:22sure.

1:27:23>> So, just vote no.

1:27:25>> No, because it's already out there and I

1:27:28I think you're going to read something.

1:27:29So, no.

1:27:30>> But I support you,

1:27:33>> Commissioner. Doesn't make sense. It

1:27:34doesn't make sense. listen to what court

1:27:36counsel said, but I know we got to

1:27:38recognize because you have you have the

1:27:40motion.

1:27:40>> Debate during a vote is out of order.

1:27:43>> Correct.

1:27:43>> Right. We're not debating.

1:27:45>> Uh I'm sorry.

1:27:48>> Continue.

1:27:48>> Commissioner Camille.

1:27:50>> No.

1:27:52>> Commissioner Carter?

1:27:53>> No.

1:27:54>> Commissioner Dewalsh?

1:27:56>> No.

1:27:56>> Commissioner Ivy,

1:27:58>> yes.

1:27:59>> Commissioner De Moore,

1:28:01>> yes.

1:28:01>> Morris, I'm sorry.

1:28:02>> Yes. Commissioner Williams,

1:28:05>> yes.

1:28:06>> Commissioner Woods,

1:28:07>> no.

1:28:09>> And Commissioner Santana,

1:28:11>> yes.

1:28:12>> Is this supposed to be a three two/3

1:28:15vote?

1:28:16>> No, it's majority.

1:28:17>> Majority.

1:28:18>> I'm going to charge y'all for today.

1:28:21>> Please do. You earned it. What do we

1:28:23have there?

1:28:24>> 55.

1:28:25>> What is it?

1:28:25>> Five. Five.

1:28:27>> Okay. So, we've got a tie.

1:28:28>> Is it somewhere? Someone missing?

1:28:30>> I can switch. Fails.

1:28:31>> How you get five? Wait a minute. Let me

1:28:34Hold on one second.

1:28:35>> We got 11 members here.

1:28:37>> All right.

1:28:40>> I missed somebody. Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

1:28:42No, no, no. I'm sorry. This interim

1:28:45secretary's fault. Um I did not record

1:28:48um Commissioner Dewash vote. Could you

1:28:50say it again, ma'am, please?

1:28:52>> It was a no.

1:28:52>> I think I said I I said no.

1:28:54>> Okay, it fails.

1:28:56>> It fails.

1:28:57>> So, the the motion fails.

1:29:00Thank you. And now it goes back to the

1:29:03>> Oh

1:29:04>> it was a uh

1:29:05>> it's over

1:29:05>> to the amendment.

1:29:06>> To the amendment

1:29:07>> to the amendment.

1:29:09>> I'd like to withdraw the motion.

1:29:13>> The commissioner cannot withdraw his

1:29:14motion once it's been stated by the

1:29:16chair and debated.

1:29:17>> Okay.

1:29:18>> The the board can he can ask unanimous

1:29:21consent to have it withdrawn, but he

1:29:23cannot withdraw it. Mr. Post.

1:29:26>> So

1:29:28I agree with that.

1:29:29>> I'm sorry.

1:29:31So is there and madame parliamentarian

1:29:34stop me if what I'm saying is incorrect

1:29:37about uh a motion to uh withdraw.

1:29:40>> What you would say Mr. Chair is the

1:29:43maker has asked permission to withdraw

1:29:45his motion. Is there any objection?

1:29:48>> If there's no objection then the motion

1:29:49is withdrawn by unanimous consent. If

1:29:52there is um if there is an objection

1:29:56then you have to vote on the motion to

1:29:58withdraw.

1:29:59And I I I did that based through the

1:30:02chair based upon the legal opinion of

1:30:04corporation council and that we have to

1:30:06follow the law and make sure we put it

1:30:08out there anyway, you know. So

1:30:11>> through through the chair.

1:30:13>> Yes, Commissioner Camille.

1:30:14>> Thank you. Um, based on what corporation

1:30:17council did say,

1:30:19so just can we just clarify what's on

1:30:22the floor right now is the amendment to

1:30:25have the document posted to today's

1:30:28meeting documents.

1:30:30>> Right.

1:30:31>> So, if we

1:30:34withdraw or um

1:30:37if we don't vote on that, then that

1:30:39document won't get posted. And so,

1:30:42>> okay. I just wanted to clarify that

1:30:44that's that's what we're working on

1:30:45right now.

1:30:47>> That's the motion we're working on.

1:30:48>> Thank you, Commissioner Camille.

1:30:49Corporate Council.

1:30:50>> Mr. Chair, I I I am wildly out of order,

1:30:53but the suggestion made by Commissioner

1:30:56Camille will solve the entire problem.

1:30:58The the document will be posted

1:31:00appropriately and we can figure out

1:31:02going forward how it is where it is that

1:31:05we're going to publish documents that

1:31:07come to us for public comment in the

1:31:09future. this will solve today's

1:31:12immediate issue.

1:31:13>> Thank you, sir.

1:31:16>> Thank you, Commissioner Camille.

1:31:18>> Uh, no, I just agree. I agree with uh

1:31:21Commissioner Camille and what corporate

1:31:24council just said. Just we just spoke on

1:31:28it so much that I really forgot what the

1:31:30motion is really about.

1:31:32>> So, are we clear on the motion? Yes. All

1:31:34right. No more discussion?

1:31:37>> No.

1:31:37>> All in favor of the motion? We'll do a

1:31:39roll.

1:31:40>> Now you're voting on the amendment.

1:31:42>> Yeah. Correct.

1:31:44>> Okay. And then once if the amendment is

1:31:46adopted, then you got to go back and

1:31:48vote on the motion as amended.

1:31:50>> Jesus, I know.

1:31:52>> So, all right. So, I am clear. What is

1:31:55the amended motion? So, I'm clear.

1:31:58The amendment is to post the public

1:32:01comment, the written public comment that

1:32:03we have on the website under today's

1:32:07meeting under documents.

1:32:10>> Thank you, Commissioner.

1:32:11>> That's what you're voting on is the

1:32:12amendment.

1:32:12>> Correct.

1:32:13>> If that amendment is adopted, then you

1:32:15go back and vote on the motion as

1:32:17amended.

1:32:18>> Yes.

1:32:19>> Y Thank you.

1:32:20>> Let's go.

1:32:21>> Uh all right, let's have the vote here.

1:32:23We'll do roll call. Commissioner Morris.

1:32:26>> Um yes. So, in that case, I'm going to

1:32:28have a follow-up motion

1:32:30>> that if any of the people who spoke

1:32:33prior to

1:32:34>> Sorry, Mr. Chairman, but it is out of

1:32:36order to have a motion made while you're

1:32:38doing a vote.

1:32:39>> No, I'm not making a motion. I'm I'm in

1:32:41discussion, but I think that

1:32:42>> have discussion while you're doing a

1:32:44vote.

1:32:46>> All right, let's go ahead and have the

1:32:48vote. We'll do a roll call vote.

1:32:50>> Uh,

1:32:51>> Commissioner Jones,

1:32:52>> yes.

1:32:53>> Commissioner Watts,

1:32:55>> yes. Commissioner Bowman,

1:32:58>> yes.

1:32:59>> Commissioner Camille,

1:33:00>> yes.

1:33:01>> Commissioner Carter,

1:33:02>> yes.

1:33:02>> Commissioner DeWalsh,

1:33:04>> yes.

1:33:04>> Commissioner Ivy,

1:33:06>> yes.

1:33:06>> Commissioner Morris,

1:33:07>> no.

1:33:08>> Commissioner Williams,

1:33:10>> yes.

1:33:11>> Commissioner Woods,

1:33:12>> yes.

1:33:12>> Commissioner Santana,

1:33:14>> yes.

1:33:14>> The motion passes.

1:33:15>> Thank you. So, the motion that passed is

1:33:18for the document that we receive will be

1:33:20posted on the U is it BOPC, am I saying?

1:33:25Yeah. Okay. Thank you for today's

1:33:27meeting.

1:33:28>> Now you got to vote on the motion as

1:33:29amended.

1:33:32>> Which is

1:33:33>> I've been making this clear.

1:33:35>> You made it clear.

1:33:37>> What you voted on was where to put it.

1:33:40>> Now you've got to vote on posting it

1:33:43with the amended motion.

1:33:45>> You've you've decided where to put it.

1:33:47So the motion before the board right now

1:33:50is to post this document submitted by

1:33:53the lady

1:33:54>> and to put it wherever it was that

1:33:57motion was to amend said.

1:34:01>> So that's what's before you at this time

1:34:04is to vote on the motion as amended.

1:34:07>> Um m Mr. Chair, I vote uh I mean

1:34:13>> the motion on the floor.

1:34:15>> Okay. What's the mot?

1:34:18>> All in favor? I guess you're going to

1:34:20say all in favor.

1:34:21>> No.

1:34:22>> Of the motion as amended. That's all you

1:34:24got to vote on is the motion.

1:34:25>> All in favor of the motion as amended.

1:34:27>> All in favor of the motion as it has

1:34:29been amended. Please indicate by saying

1:34:31I.

1:34:32>> I.

1:34:32>> I.

1:34:33>> Any opposed?

1:34:35>> Motion carries. Thank you very much.

1:34:41>> All right. Yeah.

1:34:43>> Next item.

1:34:47Chief of Police report

1:34:51>> and we will hear from Deputy Chief Sonia

1:34:54Russell.

1:34:56Give her two minutes.

1:35:02>> Man,

1:35:02>> Deputy Chief, the floor is yours.

1:35:06>> Uh through the chair. Good afternoon. Uh

1:35:08I'm Deputy Chief Senia Russell uh

1:35:10represent Western Operations and I'm

1:35:12going to be the chief representative for

1:35:13today. Um I want to first start by

1:35:15welcoming uh Commissioner Santana uh to

1:35:18the team. So welcome sir. Um I want to

1:35:20start talking about uh the crime stats

1:35:23for this week. Um we are going to start

1:35:25with homicides. Uh we are at a 14%

1:35:28change which means we are 19 less

1:35:31homicides than we were last year. the

1:35:33same time. Uh non-fatal shootings, we

1:35:36are at 11% change, which means we are 41

1:35:40less non-fatal shootings this time last

1:35:43year. With our robberies, we are at a 5%

1:35:47change, which means we are 42

1:35:49>> I know

1:35:50>> robberies less this time last year. As

1:35:53far as total one part one violent crime,

1:35:55we are 3% less, which is 303

1:35:59violent crimes less than we were this

1:36:01time last year. Property crime, 7% less

1:36:05this time last year, 1,537

1:36:08less. Carjackings, we are at a 24%

1:36:11decrease, which means we are 17 less

1:36:14than we were this time last year.

1:36:19Um, we had some significant incidents

1:36:20that occurred this week. Uh we had a

1:36:22barricaded incident uh which resulted in

1:36:25an officer involved shooting on Tuesday,

1:36:27October 27, 2026. Detroit police

1:36:29officers responded to a report of an

1:36:31assault at a gas station in the 700

1:36:33block of East Warren Avenue. A

1:36:3550-year-old suspect got into an

1:36:37altercation with employees at the gas

1:36:38station. He brandished a weapon,

1:36:40released his dog to attack them. When

1:36:42officers responded, the suspect was

1:36:43gone. Police were able to locate him at

1:36:45his home in the 18,400 block of Griggs.

1:36:49Outside of the home, officers carried

1:36:50gun rats and saw the man enter the home.

1:36:53At that time, a barricaded situation was

1:36:55declared. Negotiators worked to get the

1:36:57man to surrender peacefully.

1:36:58Unfortunately, the suspect exited a home

1:37:00armed with several weapons. Uh the

1:37:02suspect pointed a weapon in the

1:37:03direction of the officers. Officers

1:37:05fired at the suspect. The suspect also

1:37:08returned fire. Uh the suspect was

1:37:10pronounced deceased. Uh it appears the

1:37:12suspect was suffering from a mental

1:37:14health crisis. Uh and this is currently

1:37:16under investigation.

1:37:20We had another significant incident, uh,

1:37:22a double shooting which occurred on the

1:37:24east side of Detroit in 19,000 block of

1:37:26Goldburn. Earlier today at approxy 4

1:37:294:38 a.m., Detroit police responded to

1:37:32the 19,000 block of Goldburn Avenue

1:37:34following a 911 call reporting

1:37:36individuals suffering from gunshot

1:37:38wounds. Upon arrival, officers located a

1:37:40vehicle with two males suffering from

1:37:42apparent gunshot wounds. Uh both victims

1:37:45were transported to a local hospital

1:37:47when they are listed in stable

1:37:48condition. A third occupant sustained an

1:37:51apparent laceration during the incident

1:37:53but declined medical attention.

1:37:54Preliminary information indicates the

1:37:57shooting occurred in the 8000 block of

1:37:59Yolanda Street which is located in 11

1:38:01precinct. Following the incident, the

1:38:02occupants drove to the 19,000 block of

1:38:04Goldburn uh where the incident was

1:38:07reported to police. The Detroit Police

1:38:08Department has identified a person of

1:38:10interest who is currently in custody.

1:38:13This remains an active and ongoing

1:38:14investigation. No additional information

1:38:16is available at this time. Uh, anyone

1:38:19with information regarding this incident

1:38:20is encouraged to contact Detroit Police

1:38:23Department's 11 precinct detective unit

1:38:25at 3135961100

1:38:28or Crimestoppers at 1800 Speak Up.

1:38:33On Friday, October 30th, 23 student

1:38:36police officers will take the oath and

1:38:38become sworn members of Detroit Police

1:38:39Department. They have spent the past six

1:38:41months undergoing training to ensure

1:38:43they are prepared to serve the

1:38:44community. Congratulations to the new

1:38:46officers of the Detroit Police

1:38:47Department.

1:38:50Community updates. On Saturday, October

1:38:5231st, every Detroit Police Department

1:38:54precinct will be hosting a free and safe

1:38:56trunk or treat for community leaders.

1:38:58Times and locations will vary. Please

1:39:00check with your local precinct or go to

1:39:02the Halloween and the D.org

1:39:04website to find out the time and

1:39:06location of their trunk or treat.

1:39:10We want to thank our community for

1:39:11participating in our national takeback

1:39:13the day uh event last Saturday. Our

1:39:15partners at the DEA uh reported that we

1:39:18collected a record of more than a

1:39:19thousand pounds of pills across the city

1:39:21of Detroit. This will help keep everyone

1:39:23in our community safe with these pills

1:39:25off the street and out of the hands of

1:39:26residents.

1:39:29On Tuesday, November 10th, 2026 from 4

1:39:32to 8 at the Adams Buso Complex, meet

1:39:35recruits, learn about hiring

1:39:37requirements, and begin fulfilling a

1:39:39career with the Detroit Police

1:39:40Department. Career opportunities include

1:39:42911 police officer, police officers, 911

1:39:45communications, uh, crime analysts,

1:39:48Detroit facility officers, and much

1:39:49more. Attendees can expectational

1:39:52conversations, giveaways from Detroit

1:39:54Pistons, and more. Please register

1:39:55today. More information is available on

1:39:58the department's Facebook page

1:40:05as it relates to traffic enforcement. Um

1:40:07from October 18th 20 through October

1:40:1018th through uh the 24th of 2026. The

1:40:13traffic enforcement unit conducted

1:40:15operations in the 5th, 7th, 9th, and 11

1:40:17precincts. Officers made 455 traffic

1:40:20stops, issued 955 tickets for moving

1:40:22violations, and 142 citations for

1:40:25speeding.

1:40:27The 10th and 12th precinct restore

1:40:29order. On October 28th, 2026, the 10th

1:40:32and 12th precinct conducted a restore

1:40:34order. Officers executed one search

1:40:36warrant, made 20 arrests, detained two

1:40:38juveniles for possession of stolen motor

1:40:40vehicle, recovered six firearms, and

1:40:43issued 732 moving violations uh and

1:40:46narcotic pills.

1:40:49This will conclude uh the chief report

1:40:51and I will take any questions at this

1:40:53time.

1:40:53>> Thank you, Deputy Chief. I'm sorry.

1:40:56Thank you.

1:40:56>> Thank you, Deputy Chief Russell. Do we

1:40:58have any uh questions, comments for

1:41:01Deputy Chief Russell?

1:41:03>> Thank you, Mr. Mr. Chair, and thank you

1:41:05DC for your report today. Um, the only

1:41:08question I have is a followup on a

1:41:10matter we've been following for quite a

1:41:12while. Monday, we reached the one-year

1:41:14anniversary of Tracy Allen being shot

1:41:16six times by officer Melvin. Has the

1:41:18department heard anything back from

1:41:20prosecutor Kim Worthy on charges against

1:41:22this officer? And can you also confirm

1:41:25if officer Melvin is back to work and

1:41:29serving in any public facing capacity

1:41:33>> through the chair? I'm going to have to

1:41:34get an update for you, ma'am. And I will

1:41:36have that information for you next week.

1:41:38>> Thank you. That's all for me, Mr. Chair.

1:41:41>> Thank you, Commissioner Camille. Any uh

1:41:43looking around the table, any other

1:41:45questions? Commissioner Bowman.

1:41:46>> Yeah. Um hello, um Deputy Chief Russell.

1:41:50Um I'm concerned about that. um as many

1:41:53of are about that um officer involved

1:41:56shooting where um we we've described

1:41:59here that and what I've heard reported I

1:42:01think a press conference in which I even

1:42:03think I saw you on the TV um where there

1:42:07was a um all right where there is you

1:42:12you read there a dog was released

1:42:15um and the person um had at least racked

1:42:19what did he rack the gun only or did he

1:42:22actually point it as well? Did anyone

1:42:25see him pointing the gun?

1:42:27>> So, through the chair, this is an active

1:42:28investigation. Uh, as the officers were

1:42:30approaching, they heard uh what they

1:42:32believed to be a gun rack when they were

1:42:34approaching him as he was in the crisis.

1:42:38>> Okay. Um, and what happened? Um, and so

1:42:42when they he must have been within

1:42:46visibility though when they um when they

1:42:48discharged their weapons, correct? Was

1:42:50he did he open the door or something?

1:42:52Step out

1:42:54>> through the chair. Uh this is an active

1:42:56investigation. Um and we will bring we

1:42:58will update the board with more

1:42:59information at a later date.

1:43:02>> Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner

1:43:05Bowman.

1:43:06Anyone else?

1:43:09Thank you, Deputy Chief Russell.

1:43:11>> Thank you.

1:43:13>> Uh in I'm sorry. I thought you were

1:43:15moving your hand. No,

1:43:17>> I'm sorry. uh Corporal Batterdsby

1:43:20>> through the chair, sir. Um we'll be

1:43:22prepared to show you guys that video

1:43:23fairly soon uh from the officer involved

1:43:26shooting. Um so, uh I already spoke to a

1:43:30couple of uh the commissioners. Uh we

1:43:32just got to get a date lined up and

1:43:33we'll get that to you uh so you guys can

1:43:36view that. Uh also uh BOPC Camille. Um

1:43:40no there hasn't been decision made at

1:43:43this point for that officer that you

1:43:45named but he is not serving in a

1:43:48capacity with the public at this point

1:43:51>> through the chair. Thank you Mr.

1:43:52Batterdsby.

1:43:55No I'm all set.

1:43:55>> Okay. Thank you.

1:43:58At this time,

1:44:02no presentation. Uh, interim secretary

1:44:06Chief Warfield

1:44:08through the chair. Uh, commissioners, in

1:44:10your binders, you have a few reports

1:44:12there. Your weekly facial recognition

1:44:14report as well as the shot spotter

1:44:17weekly report. In addition to that, uh,

1:44:19the DPD responses to the BOPC inquiries

1:44:23in your, uh, folders concerning the

1:44:26building 500 met metrics at the Detroit

1:44:29Detention Center. Also in your binder is

1:44:32the opinion letter from corporation

1:44:35counsel regarding the chief investigator

1:44:37serving as inim secretary. Uh we also

1:44:41had an update that the department is

1:44:43working on a revision of the suspension

1:44:46uh without pay report in order to

1:44:48include the items uh that the

1:44:50commissioner brought commissioners

1:44:51brought up at the last meeting. And so

1:44:54they gave the preliminary report today

1:44:57and uh we'll keep uh recording the

1:44:59updates as they happen as relates to the

1:45:02next board meeting. Our next board

1:45:04meeting will be Thursday, november the

1:45:065th, 2026 at 3:00 p.m. Detroit Public

1:45:09Safety Headquarters, 1301 3rd Street,

1:45:12Detroit, Michigan 48226.

1:45:15Our next um community meeting will be

1:45:18Thursday, December the 10th, 2026 at

1:45:206:30 p.m. at Wayne County Community

1:45:23College District, Curtis Ivy Campus.

1:45:26That address is 10001 West Fort Street,

1:45:29Detroit, Michigan 48226.

1:45:32Our next policy, our next committee

1:45:34meeting will be the policy committee

1:45:36meeting that will be held on Tuesday,

1:45:39November the 17th, 2026 at 3 o'clock

1:45:42p.m. All committee meetings are held

1:45:44here at the Detroit Public Safety

1:45:46Headquarters, 13013rd Street, Detroit,

1:45:48Michigan 48226. That is the interim

1:45:51secretary's report, sir.

1:45:52>> Thank you very much.

1:45:56We'll move on to uh the unfinished

1:45:59business and we do I'll uh turn it over

1:46:02to Commissioner Woods for a motion from

1:46:06the personnel committee.

1:46:08>> Uh yes. Um um my understanding that

1:46:12there was a motion made for staff to ask

1:46:15the candidates to be here on last week.

1:46:18Um we conferred with HR and um saying

1:46:23that you know that was not permissible

1:46:26um based upon the fact that you know you

1:46:29have to make an offer and if you brought

1:46:32someone into this partic two people into

1:46:35this setting it would be highly

1:46:37embarrassing for you know the candidate

1:46:40you know. So um I just want to uh say uh

1:46:44thank you uh uh Commissioner Bowman for

1:46:46you know representing this. I was in

1:46:48Memphis on last week uh when uh he made

1:46:51the motion and I got a little

1:46:53disconnected. So I say by direction of

1:46:56the personnel and training committee, I

1:46:57move that the Detroit Board of Police

1:46:59Commissioners appoint uh Jerome or make

1:47:02a offer to Jerome Jackson to the

1:47:05position of administrative assistant to

1:47:07the Board of Police Commissioners. In

1:47:09the event that Mr. objection declines um

1:47:12the offer. I further move that Monica

1:47:15Weathers be appointed as a alternate

1:47:17candidate for the position.

1:47:19>> Support if necessary.

1:47:21>> It's not.

1:47:21>> It's not.

1:47:23>> Thank you. So on that motion, um any any

1:47:26discussion?

1:47:28>> That motion can be divided.

1:47:33>> I thought I saw your hand. All right.

1:47:34>> I got no hands.

1:47:35>> Discussion,

1:47:37>> Commissioner Williams. I haven't got any

1:47:39information about either one of these

1:47:40candidates.

1:47:42>> Um,

1:47:44did you you emailed it, right?

1:47:46>> The the candidates's information was

1:47:48emailed out. We'll reailed.

1:47:50>> Was it me since last meeting?

1:47:53>> Since last meeting. Yes, sir.

1:47:55>> Yeah. Did you read the email?

1:47:56>> I definitely didn't read the email if I

1:47:58didn't see it in there cuz it definitely

1:48:00didn't pop up. But I would uh see if

1:48:03it's connected to a forward email or

1:48:05whatnot.

1:48:05>> Okay. Thank you, sir.

1:48:07You're good. Okay. All in favor of the

1:48:10motion, please indicate by I. I

1:48:13>> I oppose. Motion does carry.

1:48:16>> And um uh I will also say that the

1:48:20secretary position will be posted uh any

1:48:24day now. um HR is finishing up that the

1:48:29Rex has been completed and so I would

1:48:33say no later than um early next week

1:48:36it'll be posted as soon as it get posted

1:48:39uh we have uh talked to uh Chief

1:48:42Warfield as well as Drew to put together

1:48:44a flyer to be able to share with all

1:48:47other board members and that's what we

1:48:49did with the uh investigator positions

1:48:52that's closing out. I want to make sure

1:48:53that all the board members got those

1:48:56flyers and to be able to uh promote it

1:48:58uh in your circles and so uh we are

1:49:01moving full speed ahead as relates to

1:49:03that aspect of things as well. So thank

1:49:05you very kindly.

1:49:07>> Thank you Commissioner Woods.

1:49:10Nothing under new business. There's

1:49:13nothing else to come before this board.

1:49:15The chair will entertain a motion to

1:49:16adjurnn.

1:49:17>> So move

1:49:18>> support.

1:49:18>> Thank you. came in just in time.

1:49:21>> Uh move moved and supported that we

1:49:24adjourn. Any discussion on the motion?

1:49:26Hearing none. All in favor indicate by

1:49:28playing uh saying I.

1:49:29>> I.

1:49:30>> I.

1:49:30>> Any nays?

1:49:31>> Wait. Oh shoot.

1:49:36>> Motion does carry.

1:49:37>> Can I skip next week's meeting?

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