2026-10-01 - Board of Police Commissioners

00:00uh board of police commissioners meeting

00:02and today being Thursday, October the

00:061st. How about that?

00:09Uh with that, I would like to have and

00:11madam secretary, you can let me know who

00:13is giving the invocation.

00:22We will have the invocation given to us

00:24by Chief Jerome Warfield. Thank you,

00:27Chief.

00:28>> Thank you, chair. Let us pray.

00:31Most holy and righteous father, we come

00:33before your presence this afternoon

00:35thanking you for the opportunity to

00:37serve and to be of service to your

00:39people. We thank you for anointing this

00:42leadership team, these commissioners,

00:45these commanders, chief of police to be

00:47able to serve and super serve your

00:49people. We ask now, Lord, that as we

00:52discuss and debate the issues that you

00:54be in our midst. Bless us Lord and let

00:56us get sound resolution for issues that

00:58are outstanding. In Jesus Christ's name

01:01we pray. Amen.

01:02>> Amen. Thank you.

01:04>> Madam Secretary, at this time we'll have

01:07an roll call for the introduction of the

01:10commissioners.

01:12>> Commissioner Jones,

01:14>> present.

01:16>> Commissioner Watts,

01:17>> here.

01:18>> Commissioner Bowman,

01:19>> present.

01:20>> Commissioner Camille,

01:22>> present. Commissioner Carter.

01:26>> Commissioner Dewash,

01:27>> present.

01:28>> Commissioner Ivy,

01:30>> present.

01:31>> Commissioner Morris,

01:32>> present.

01:33>> Commissioner Williams,

01:35>> present.

01:36>> Commissioner Woods,

01:38>> present.

01:39>> Nine present, sir.

01:41>> Thank you, Madam Secretary. The chair

01:44will now entertain a motion for the

01:46approval of today's agenda.

01:48>> So moved.

01:49>> Second. It has been moved by Vice Chair

01:52Watts and seconded by Commissioner

01:55Williams. Is there any discussion on the

01:57motion?

01:59Hearing none. All in favor of the

02:00motion, please indicate by I.

02:02>> I.

02:03>> Opposed. Motion does carry. Thank you.

02:06Moving on to item number D. Is the

02:08approval of the minutes for last

02:10Thursday's meeting

02:11>> to be moved.

02:12>> September 24th, 2026.

02:15>> Support.

02:17>> Second.

02:18>> Thank you.

02:20The motion has been moved by Madame Vice

02:23Chair Watts and supported by

02:25Commissioner Williams. Is there any

02:28discussion on the motion?

02:30Hearing none. All in favor of the

02:32motion, please indicate by I.

02:34>> I.

02:34>> Opposed?

02:36>> Motion does carry.

02:40At this time, we will have the

02:42introduction of the BOPC staff, chief of

02:44police, elected officials, andor

02:46representatives, and community leaders

02:49by the board secretary.

02:52>> Mr.

02:55BOPC staff present JA Underwood

02:59Dior Matthysse Armsia Joshua Mary Barber

03:04BOPC chief investigator Jerome Warfield

03:08senior I'll see corporate counselor yet

03:14Dr. Francis Jackson, parliamentarian,

03:18OCI supervising investigator Hiller,

03:22DPD HR Director Katrina Patillo,

03:26and Assistant Chief Carrie Sloan is here

03:28for the office of the chief of police.

03:31Our interpreters today are Richard

03:33Islesworth and Angelique Taylor. Court

03:36reporter Hansen Court Reporting, audio,

03:39Sergeant Enrique Jackson, and media

03:41services Jason Gant. Marie Overwall,

03:46administrative assistant to state

03:48representative Tyrone Carter and VP of

03:50fourth precinct community relations

03:52council. Nicole Fiser, secretary for

03:55fourth precinct community relations

03:57council is present via Zoom.

04:00[clears throat]

04:02Miss Fria Butler, second precinct

04:04community activist. JG Love is here from

04:07city council member Miller's office.

04:10Mark Young, President Lieutenant and

04:12Sergeant Association.

04:15And online, we have former police

04:18commissioner William Davis on Zoom. And

04:21those are the registered persons at this

04:23time, Mr. Chair.

04:25>> Thank you, Madam Secretary.

04:29Am I hearing some discussion out there?

04:32Oh, okay. Uh, we will now move on to the

04:36BOPC officers report. And at this time

04:39we have two resolutions that will be

04:42presented. The first one is a resolution

04:44honoring Mr. Michael Anderson.

04:47>> Thank you, Chair.

04:48>> Yes, sir.

04:49>> Um resolution of the Detroit Board of

04:52Police Commissioners honoring uh

04:54community activist Michael Anderson.

04:57Whereas Michael Anderson has dedicated

04:59years of his life to serving the people

05:01of Detroit, standing beside victims and

05:03families during some of the most

05:05difficult and painful moments of their

05:07lives. And whereas he has tirelessly

05:10advocated for victims of sexual assault

05:12and human trafficking, helped mobilize

05:15searches for missing women and children,

05:18connected victims with vital resources,

05:20and used his voice and social media

05:23platform to bring urgent attention to

05:26those in need. And whereas his efforts

05:28have helped generate critical tips and

05:31information that have assisted law

05:32enforcement investigations and in

05:35numerous instances helped bring answers

05:38and justice to victims and their

05:39families. And whereas Mr. Anderson has

05:42performed this work without

05:44compensation, without substantial back

05:46financial backing, and without

05:50expectation of reward, given freely his

05:53time, resources, and energy simply

05:55because he believes that his community

05:58deserves someone willing to stand up and

06:00help. And now therefore, be it resolved

06:03that the Detroit Board of Police

06:04Commissioners proudly recognizes and

06:07honors Michael Anderson for his

06:09extraordinary dedication, courage,

06:11compassion, and selfless service to the

06:14people of Detroit, and for his

06:16unwavering commitment to protecting the

06:18vulnerable, supporting victims, and help

06:21bringing hope, answers, and justice to

06:24those who need it most. Chair, I move

06:27that the board adopt this resolution.

06:30Second.

06:32>> Thank you, Commissioner Morris. Who uh

06:34supported the motion?

06:36>> Um I did. I think someone else was

06:37saying at the same time I was.

06:39>> Okay. Uh so it has been moved by

06:42Commissioner uh Morris and supported by

06:45Commissioner DeWalt. Is there any

06:46discussion on the motion?

06:49Hearing none, all in favor of the

06:50motion, please indicate by saying I.

06:52>> I.

06:52>> Those opposed? Motion does carry. Thank

06:55you.

06:56>> Yes. Thank you.

06:56>> Yes, sir. Now we have a resolution

06:58honoring police officer Steven Rouser

07:01and hopefully I'm uh saying the last

07:04name right and it's postumously

07:08who will be reading that uh motion I'm

07:11sorry that resolution

07:16>> I can do it sir

07:19>> thank you

07:20>> um the Detroit Board of Police

07:21Commissioners pass the resolution

07:24honoring police officer Steven Rouser

07:27Whereas the police uh officer Steven

07:30Rouser faithfully served the citizens of

07:32the city of Detroit and the Detroit

07:34Police Department with honor, courage,

07:36and dedication for more than 22 years.

07:39Appointed to the department on April

07:4119th, 2004, and following graduation

07:44from the Detroit Metropolitan Police

07:46Academy, he served with the distinction

07:48in the tactical services section and

07:51southwestern district and the fourth

07:53precinct. And whereas throughout his

07:55career, Officer Rouser remained

07:57steadfast in his commitment to

08:00protecting and serving the people of

08:01Detroit, dedicating himself to ensuring

08:04the safety and well-being of the

08:06community until his untimely passing on

08:09September 29th, 2026.

08:13Officer Rouseer leaves a legacy of

08:15service, professionalism, and dedication

08:18that will be remembered by his fellow

08:20officers, the Detroit Police Department,

08:23and the citizens he faithfully served.

08:26And now, therefore, be it resolved that

08:28the Detroit Board of Police

08:29Commissioners honors the life and legacy

08:31of Police Officer Steven Rouser,

08:33remembering with gratitude his more than

08:36two decades of faithful service to the

08:38people of Detroit, and extends its

08:40deepest sympathy and heartfelt

08:42condolences to his family, friends, and

08:44loved ones, and fellow members of the

08:47Detroit Police Department. I move that

08:50this resolution be adopted.

08:52>> Second.

08:54It has been moved by Commissioner

08:55DeWalsh and supported by uh Commissioner

08:58Bowman that we accept this resolution.

09:02Uh is there any discussion on the

09:03motion?

09:05>> Hearing none, all in favor, please say

09:07I.

09:08>> I. Oppos.

09:09>> The motion does carry. Thank you,

09:11Commissioner De Walsh.

09:14>> At this time, we will move on to oral

09:16communications and public comments. Uh

09:19please keep in mind uh for the speakers

09:22that any inappropriate language and

09:24comments may delay the TV broadcast and

09:27video post. And also please help protect

09:31your privacy during this public meeting.

09:34While speaking, do not state your

09:37address or any phone numbers.

09:40So at this time we will move to the oral

09:43communications and public comments.

09:47>> Thank you, Mr. Chair, we're just

09:49bringing the clock up.

09:56>> Our first speaker will be Mr. Josh Man,

10:00followed by Miss Padilla Butler.

10:08>> Good afternoon, sir.

10:09>> Good afternoon. Happy first day of

10:10October to everybody.

10:12>> Thank you, sir. In 1974, the Honorable

10:15Coleman Young created this board as a

10:18civilian oversight group. I don't feel

10:21Harvey Santana is a good choice for this

10:25group due to his background of on the uh

10:28House of Representatives, also Wayne

10:30County Sheriff. I urge you all to

10:33communicate with city council if it's if

10:36you feel fit. But him sitting on this

10:39board, I don't feel uh is good thing

10:42that they were talking about it this

10:43week at city council. Also, uh DPD has

10:46done an excellent job on dismantling the

10:48drifting and dragg drag racing uh

10:51groups, seized many people's cars, but a

10:56lot of people in this room have been on

10:58French road.

11:00Those people aren't criminals. They're

11:02car enthusiasts. And as much as we're

11:05going to put in the effort to dismantle

11:08and potentially ruin their futures, we

11:11should also do a positive resolution.

11:13Contact city council to figure out

11:15designated areas. Officers have more

11:18stuff to deal with over kids drag racing

11:21or doing donuts in the middle of the

11:22night.

11:24Chief Craig had been out there. I'm sure

11:27many of you have been out there. Those

11:29people become police officers, become

11:30city workers and politicians within the

11:33city. There's a difference between

11:35racers and criminals. Detroit's got some

11:37of the most talented dirt bike riders

11:39that are soon going to lose their

11:40futures due to criminals and instead

11:42they should be celebrated for their

11:44talents. They can dance on their

11:45motorcycles, do wheelies down the road,

11:47and most of these guys have never even

11:49rode on a dirt bike track yet. The

11:51potential that we're stripping of these

11:54kids by not offering them space. I hope

11:57we can come together and find positive

11:59resolutions instead of ruining these

12:01kids' futures. Thank you.

12:03Thank you, sir.

12:04>> Miss Sharon Panel, followed by Miss

12:06Padilla Butler.

12:14>> Good afternoon.

12:15>> Good afternoon,

12:16>> Sharon Panel. I'm I'm giving my two

12:18minutes to Miss Butler.

12:20>> Good afternoon, Miss Butler.

12:22>> Thank you. Afternoon.

12:25>> Wake up, sleeping giants, and think.

12:29Wow, the lights.

12:39We are at a critical stage in our

12:42history. What happened from 19 1619 to

12:472026

12:49by people who enslaved us cannot be our

12:54history cannot be erased.

12:57We have the power to be in control of

13:01our destiny and make decisions that are

13:06that demonstrate

13:09that we will not accept negative

13:12decisions made by others. The exercise

13:16we participated in last week by looking

13:19in the mirror and evaluating change must

13:23start now. There is a team of us working

13:27to make changes that will affect all of

13:30us. We are working in stores registering

13:33people to vote. We have the power to use

13:38our votes to bring about change in our

13:42lives. We know our needs, educate

13:45ourselves on the issues, and vote for

13:48the best candidate we believe will work

13:52for the people. No one is perfect, but

13:56we don't need to sell us for false

14:00promises or money given in the past.

14:05Know your history and vote. Stop tell

14:17Jesus is going to make the change. I'm

14:21I'm good. And do your and do

14:26and do you believe in Jesus?" unquote.

14:30Just vote.

14:31>> Thank you, ma'am. Your time is up.

14:33>> I've spoken for four minutes already.

14:35>> Two minutes.

14:38>> Oh,

14:39>> Mr. Chairman.

14:41>> A person cannot give their two minutes

14:43to someone else. That's not allowable.

14:45>> Okay. So, your two minutes is up, ma'am.

14:46>> Okay.

14:47>> Thank you, Madam Parliamentarian.

14:52Next speaker, please.

14:53>> Our next three speakers are Cingham,

14:57Miss Bernice Smith, Minister Eric Blunt.

15:09>> Good afternoon, sir.

15:12>> Good afternoon, everyone. Our brother

15:14Cunningham 3134444 9114 3134449114

15:20313 444 9114 that number was made so you

15:23can remember it. Every Friday I have

15:26free fair Fridays at the Rosa Parks

15:30Trans Center and at Hargo to explain

15:33their blue tickets they say they have

15:35the number four on them and that last

15:38for four hours and they cost $2. We give

15:40those away for free uh at the bus stops

15:44and at the terminals. Uh we all, you

15:48know, most of us drive um but and we are

15:51so busy we we're focused on our day. We

15:53don't see the people waiting at the bus

15:55stops. I want to commend the uh DPD uh

15:58division for um transit. They are doing

16:02a good job. and the in fact they noticed

16:04me every Friday giving out the ice water

16:06and the bus tickets and uh and um the

16:10rapport that the people have with me.

16:12And if anybody in this room would like a

16:14a different experience like to pray with

16:16the people, uh give the bus tickets out

16:19with me, um that number I gave you, the

16:22313449114,

16:24you can put that in Google and it'll

16:26come up with my Facebook page, my

16:29Patreon, which is a fundraising

16:31mechanism, and cash app. Instead of

16:33putting the cash tag, you can put uh

16:353134449114.

16:39Um, it is really good to talk to the

16:41people and help the people. Things are

16:43getting rough. The big beautiful bill

16:45effects are going to go into full

16:46effect. Folks are already talking to

16:48themselves like ever before, digging in

16:49the garbage, hungry for food more than

16:51I've ever seen. So, we got to love on

16:53each other this winter season. I think

16:55it's going to be a little a little

16:58harsh. Um, but if you can help somebody

17:02at the bus stops, help somebody who's

17:04unhoused, those are two different

17:05demographics, and just be a blessing and

17:08love on

17:09and I'm still trying to get my vehicle

17:11fixed. So pray. Thank you. Thank you so

17:15much.

17:15>> Thank you, sir. Before we move on to the

17:17next speaker, please let the record show

17:19that we have been joined by a corporate

17:21council, Conrad Ballard. Thank you.

17:27Next speaker, please.

17:31>> Mother Bernice.

17:39>> [laughter]

17:40>> That's why you sitting there.

17:43>> Mother Benise.

17:46>> Mother Bernice.

17:47>> Yes, sir.

17:49>> Wait a minute.

17:50>> No. Two minutes.

17:52>> Yeah. You must think I forget.

17:54[laughter]

17:55Good afternoon. I don't know who decided

17:58to put us like this, but whatever. You

18:00sure messed up. [laughter]

18:02Uh

18:04>> don't take that off my two minutes now

18:07[laughter]

18:09everyone to that young man that had the

18:12>> the date of uh the crime commission.

18:14It's 73 baby cuz I was number one on it.

18:18One of them.

18:20>> My children told me said, "Mama, don't

18:22you dare say what you're going to say."

18:23But I can't help it. This is our city.

18:27Remember I said our city. What happened

18:30this week? I am upset about it and I'm

18:33really mad. Even though I didn't I don't

18:36live in that neighborhood. How in the

18:38world you going to live in a

18:39neighborhood and you got a after hour

18:40joint 24 hours in your neighborhood and

18:44you live there.

18:46So I'm not happy about it and I think

18:50somebody should do something about it in

18:52that neighborhood. Where's the block

18:54clubs? We don't have block clubs

18:55anymore. And and it's just upsetting to

18:59think that we live in a good city. This

19:01not a good city. We just have people

19:03that wants to make it bad. That's all. I

19:06remember when I came here in 60. It was

19:08beautiful. Kman Young didn't allow none

19:10of this what's going on h to happen. He

19:13even ran the dope dealers to eight mile

19:16and they used to always say don't be

19:18sending them out eight mile. But anyway,

19:20what I want to say is let's be co cons

19:24kind of, you know what I'm trying to

19:26say, conscious of who's around us and to

19:29talk to the people. We don't need them

19:31to be having open houses so we can't

19:34sleep at night and we got to worry about

19:36the shooting and going on. It's it's

19:39sad. I'm 94 years old. I want to see

19:42another two or three years around here

19:44for a good city and for us to live

19:47decently.

19:49I'm going to shut up now cuz I'm about

19:50to cry. Take care.

19:53>> Thank you, Mother Bernice.

19:56Next speaker, please.

20:09>> Good afternoon, sir. Good afternoon. I'm

20:11Minister Eric Blunt from Sacred Heart

20:13Catholic Church right here in Detroit.

20:14And Mother Bernice, we pray for another

20:1620 years, not two or three. Amen.

20:20>> Amen.

20:20>> I knew I could get some of y'all to say

20:22amen about something. [laughter]

20:24Um,

20:26>> the last time I was here was at a public

20:28meeting and we had some unfinished

20:30conversations with Commissioner uh

20:33Lavish Williams.

20:36The continued deceit that you show is

20:39just

20:41>> an example of this boards.

20:45Uh, no one can trust or believe someone

20:48who changed their name right before they

20:51run for public office. Yeah, but that's

20:54fine.

20:55>> No, you choose to pick on another item I

20:59brought up and uh that true that too was

21:04not truth.

21:07The 12th precinct towing problem this

21:10year was on the agenda for this meeting,

21:14April 16th of this year.

21:17It did not list any other issue besides

21:21towing.

21:24So, please know that I am not taking

21:26shots at you personally. I try to

21:30improve this community by talking

21:33the truth and to eliminate any type of

21:37police officer misconduct.

21:40Who do you need to ask? The Right

21:43Reverend Jim Holly was not excluded from

21:46my comments. The previous District 2

21:50Commissioner Linda Bernard when she sold

21:54herself to these police officers that

21:58she had just voted to promote. So no,

22:03my comments, my concerns are never

22:06personal. They are always situational.

22:12And

22:14if you need receipts, I will bring

22:17copies of the April 16th,

22:202026

22:23agenda. Thank you, Minister Blunt.

22:29>> Michael Anderson,

22:32and then we'll go into Zoom.

22:40U Mr. Anderson, give me a second,

22:41please. I'm g No, you can stay right

22:44there. Uh, Commissioner Morris, this is

22:46the gentleman that you read the

22:48resolution for.

22:49>> That is correct.

22:49>> And that we approve. So, please give us

22:52a few words and then we'll follow the

22:55directions of Commissioner Morris and

22:56making a photo with you.

22:58>> All right. Thank you'all for uh the

23:00honors. Uh like I said, uh I just I just

23:03do what I feel is best. I've been doing

23:04it for a while now as far as uh social

23:06media in the community. Um trying to be

23:09kind of the bridge for the community and

23:11the police department. Um being a former

23:13gang member. Um basically letting

23:16everybody know like every bad cop I mean

23:18every cop is not bad.

23:20Every kid y'all see with a with a mask

23:22on is not a bad kid. You know what I'm

23:24saying? Basically trying to be build the

23:26bridge. You know what I'm saying?

23:26Protect start protecting the women

23:27again. Uh start protecting our children

23:30again. showing them that you don't have

23:32to turn your blind eye when you see

23:34something wrong. Like everybody want to

23:36mind their business. Minding your

23:37business is not helping the community.

23:38So, I'm just showing everybody, you know

23:40what I'm saying? It don't matter what

23:41your face is, what you've been through,

23:42what you what you going through, we can

23:44do it together. We can take a walk

23:45together. So, I'm just trying to do my

23:47best and uh play my part um any way I

23:49can using my platform uh and in the

23:52streets. Uh so, I like I said, I

23:54appreciate the honors that y'all gave me

23:56today. Had to go pick my kids up, so I

23:57missed it. I apologize.

24:00Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. Uh

24:03commissioners and we can uh

24:04>> Yes, sir. Chair, I just want to follow

24:06up and say Mr. Yes, sir.

24:07>> Mr. Anderson um have um

24:13>> traveled a long ways on the road of

24:14redemption and he's come from the the

24:17rough side of the community. Um, now he

24:20leads a road of integrity and honor and

24:23the things that he've learned on this

24:25journey. He is spreading it uh to the

24:29next generation

24:31to prevent them from going down the same

24:33path.

24:35And he is a true example of uh what it

24:39means to be redeemed.

24:41and the department has benefited from

24:44his advocacy

24:47um bringing awareness to situations that

24:50we ordinary wouldn't have known about

24:53and have led to uh missing people,

24:57missing children, missing kids uh being

25:00found safely in a timely manner. And you

25:04know, I felt it was appropriate that we

25:05do honor, especially in today's society

25:08with things that are happening u with

25:10the women in the community so much as

25:12recently the stabbing of uh Miss Wixs

25:15outside of Chipotle. And so when we have

25:18individuals that are willing to step up

25:20and do what they can um to help the

25:23community um and even after people have

25:26experienced crisis to help them heal and

25:28get resources and comfort and I've seen

25:31him go live multiple times on social

25:33media, you know, and get in this

25:36vehicle, burn his own gas, go to

25:38locations to help people just to be by

25:41their side. And you know, um we thank

25:44him for his service.

25:46Thank you, sir. Commissioners, we can

25:48assemble and uh make a photo uh with Mr.

25:52Anderson quickly.

25:58[laughter]

26:04Sharon Panel,

26:05>> hold on, ma'am. No.

26:07>> Oh, give me a second. Let's make this

26:10photo

26:14this way. Can they go around and then go

26:17here?

27:25that I saw. Oh, that was

27:38Yeah, that's good.

27:40>> Thank you, sir.

27:41>> I got to wear me some things.

27:42>> Hey, there you go. There you go.

27:46>> All right, ma'am. I am sorry. I

27:48understand.

27:48>> You want the two minutes?

27:50>> Yes, I want my two minutes since I

27:51couldn't give them over to Miss Butler.

27:53We always have been able to do that. I

27:56don't know when to

27:56>> we're losing minutes. Go ahead.

27:58>> Anyway, I'm complaining about the

28:00speeding. Joy Road Schaefer Meyers

28:04>> the clock.

28:07>> I'm not going to do two minutes. No way.

28:08It don't matter. And we still don't have

28:11a sergeant in second precinct. I I'm

28:13I've been asking Connors about it. He

28:16keep telling me the captain is doing the

28:18work. She ain't supposed to be doing the

28:20work. We need a sergeant.

28:22Simple as that.

28:24Oh, thank you, ma'am.

28:27Next speaker, please.

28:30>> I think that was our last speaker in the

28:33room. So, now we'll go to Zoom.

28:39Our first speaker will be former

28:41Commissioner William Davis, followed by

28:43Mr. Smith.

28:45>> Commissioner Davis, you may be heard,

28:48sir.

28:49>> Uh, good afternoon. Can I be heard?

28:51>> Yes, you may, sir.

28:53>> Okay. I'd like to start off by saying uh

28:54yesterday I enjoyed attending the um

28:58walking mile with the chief. It was a

29:00nice crowd especially concerning the

29:02weather. Um [snorts]

29:04also uh the the second precinct is still

29:07missing a sergeant for the neighbor

29:09police officers.

29:11Um and we hope to get one soon because

29:14that have been a concern for some

29:16people. Uh, also,

29:20you know, we need to be doing more

29:21things that engage the community. Uh, we

29:24need more community engagement. We need

29:26more people understanding what's going

29:28on with the Detroit Police Department. I

29:31enjoy seeing the chief stop and talk to

29:34different people on the on the walk. Uh

29:37also I'm disappointed the fact that u

29:41normally I shared the agenda for the

29:43board of police commissioners uh so the

29:45other people could see their agenda and

29:48what have you. It's usually it used to

29:50be posted on the board of police

29:52commissioner Facebook page

29:55but for the past two weeks that that

29:57hasn't happened. Hopefully, um, I know

29:59Miss Blossom is gone, but hopefully

30:01somebody could take up some of her

30:02responsibilities and make sure that

30:05communication is available and I can

30:08help continue to share it. Um,

30:12y'all have a nice day.

30:13>> Thank you, Commissioner Davis. Next

30:16speaker, please.

30:17>> Miss Tanya Jackson, followed by Patricia

30:20Montgomery.

30:24>> Miss Jackson, are you there?

30:26>> Yes, I'm here. Good afternoon. Can I be

30:28heard?

30:28>> Yes, ma'am. You may.

30:30>> Okay. Y'all been hearing me talk about

30:33Officer Dion Dawson. I'mma say this on

30:36the record. Thank you, Camille, for

30:39actually inboxing me back about my

30:42concern. I'll let Morris know what was

30:44going on. This officer that a lot of

30:47y'all chose to keep on on the board or

30:49keep on the force. Couple of nights ago,

30:52his kid's mom came to my house 2 3:00 in

30:56the morning. came to my house while I

30:58was sleep, vandalized my car. Y'all know

31:01what she did? That woman threw black

31:02paint all over my car. I have a white

31:05car. What is y'all going to do about it?

31:08I had to file a PO out against this

31:10woman and I made a police report and I

31:13also made a report with the OCI officer.

31:16What is y'all what what are y'all gonna

31:18do about it? Y'all sit on that board and

31:21just listen to the same old stuff. Now

31:23it's a problem because this woman is

31:25coming to my house vandalizing my

31:27property. What are y'all going to do?

31:29It's so sad that the man up there just

31:32sit and think that this cool that the

31:35women up there I don't even I she don't

31:37even got to know nothing what's going

31:39on. Actually, none of y'all really need

31:41to investigate. But I wanted to give

31:42Camille her flowers. What is y'all going

31:44to do until this woman lose her life or

31:47this officer lose his life? Y'all think

31:49that's cool that this woman coming and

31:50vandalizing my my my car? a white car

31:53with black paint. Do y'all not

31:55understand how serious this going to

31:57get? It's going to be bigger than the

31:59board. It's going to be bigger than all

32:00y'all. Y'all not hearing me talk about

32:02Dion. You know why? Because he got his

32:04baby mama doing his dirty work. Y'all

32:06better fix this problem because y'all

32:08going to be in trouble. If that woman

32:11come to my house, y'all going y'all

32:13going to see it on the news. It ain't no

32:15way that y'all just sit there with the

32:17dumb Let me Let me not say what I was

32:20about to say cuz y'all going to hang up

32:21on me. Y'all terrible. Y'all disgust me.

32:23All y'all really need to go. Y'all

32:25useless. Y'all support and and give

32:28people they credit when it's due, but

32:29y'all don't fix the problem. All y'all

32:32need to go. Point blank. Period.

32:34>> Thank you, ma'am.

32:36Next speaker, please.

32:45>> Miss Montgomery.

32:47>> Hi. Can everybody hear me?

32:49>> Yes, ma'am.

32:50>> Okay. Good afternoon. Um, I live in the

32:53Ninth Precinct area and um, I bought my

32:57house in the city of Detroit. I was so

32:59excited and I once moving into the

33:03house, I realized that I'm I'm near um,

33:06a lot of drug activity. Um, I've um, had

33:11to come to the home to my home. Um,

33:15there's people blocking my driveway. I

33:17have a curved driveway. It runs into the

33:20alley. There's people blocking my

33:22driveway. I can't leave. I can't come

33:25home. I call 911. They're listening to

33:28dispatches. And soon as they hear

33:32someone being dispatched to my home,

33:34they all leave. Um I I finally got a PO

33:40against one of the people. And just to

33:44hear the prosecutor say, "It's a beef

33:47between neighbors. There's no beef. Um,

33:51I've been stalked. I've been harassed.

33:55Um, it's a conspiracy. I've been

33:57intimidated.

33:59And I don't know what else to do. I've

34:01called the Office of Chief Investigator.

34:05Um, I can't make reports. Um, they've

34:09trespassed on my property. I wasn't able

34:11to make a report because I don't have a

34:13trust no trespassing sign. So, the only

34:16thing I want to know now is just what

34:20are my options? Because it's not a beef.

34:23I'm being um harassed and intimidated.

34:26I've sent a cease and desist. Nothing is

34:30happening. I talked to Lieutenant White

34:32at the ninth precinct who told me

34:34there's not much he can do. It's been

34:37going on consistently for a whole year.

34:40I made my business take trying to take

34:44care of the public. So I just want to

34:46know what are my options.

34:54>> Thank you ma'am. Um to Chief Warfield

34:57and uh Assistant Chief Sloan.

35:02Are you familiar with anything involved

35:05in this case?

35:11through the chair. Uh first, good

35:12afternoon, sir. I'm not aware of the

35:14specifics, but I did take some notes. If

35:16anybody

35:17>> uh has Miss Montgomery's contact

35:19information, I will have somebody reach

35:21out and help to attempt her deal with

35:23the situation she has there.

35:25>> Thank you very much.

35:27>> And through the chair, I'm checking the

35:29system now. Um if the report was made

35:31today or yesterday, it's not in the

35:33system yet. So, we'll continue to check

35:35and I'm checking back with the

35:37investigators still at our office to see

35:39if any information is there. So, we'll

35:41get back with you.

35:43>> Thank you, Chief.

35:51>> Next, next speaker, please.

35:54>> That was your last speaker.

35:55>> Thank you very much.

35:56>> Oh. Oh, excuse me, sir. Mr. Smith is

35:59back.

36:01Thank you.

36:03>> Go ahead. You said, are you saying

36:06>> I'd like to say that uh to Ruben Cwley,

36:08you got a few more times to continue to

36:10say my name before I start exposing the

36:11things that you've done uh with your

36:13your shady business partner. I'm going

36:15to make sure you get a cozy sale in in

36:17jail somewhere. Also, uh very sad the

36:20chief isn't there to listen. Very

36:22disappointed in a lot of the

36:23commissioners, every all of the ones who

36:24voted um to have faith and confidence in

36:28the chief. uh to you chair. The fact

36:30that you through the chair hung up on me

36:32with 40 seconds left uh the last time I

36:35spoke is very disappointing.

36:38>> The fact that you guys are messing up my

36:39my speaking time is terrible. Also, uh

36:43there going to be some indictments

36:44coming through. I do want to apologize

36:45to AC uh Hayes and I want to apologize

36:48to DC Starks. AC Hayes, we don't had a

36:50best relationship, but DC Starks, we

36:53we've always had a good relationship and

36:54I appreciate you. I know that you guys

36:56are dealing with a rogue chief who is

36:58doing what he wants. The fact that he's

36:59taking officer cell phones, officers

37:03laptops, ridiculous. The fact that you

37:05guys are voting confidence in somebody

37:06who is using their first using trying to

37:09take away activist first amendment.

37:11Also, there's a lady named Danielle

37:12Williams who the chief of police on July

37:1523rd agreed to have a meeting with. She

37:17is the mother of Matthew Ethingington

37:19II, a fallen Detroit police officer. and

37:22Todd Bettison agreed to have a meeting

37:24with her, not just to myself, but also

37:25to Danielle over the phone. I would love

37:28for you to honor this meeting that you

37:30you set up. You agreed to with this uh

37:33grieving mother. You seem to be a liar.

37:36You seem to not hold truthful to your

37:37word, but this is one molehill I'm going

37:39to die on. So, I'm going make sure that

37:41you have this meeting. Also to you,

37:43Conrad Mallet, you need to do a better

37:45job at advising these commissioners,

37:47advising this chief, advising this mayor

37:49on what they can legally and cannot

37:51legally do. Also, you should talk to

37:53Jerry Ashford about him trying to reach

37:55out to me. That is going to be another

37:57count because it seems like that is

37:59meddling. That is possibly intimidation.

38:01I don't care how much of my page you

38:02watch. I don't care how much you look at

38:04me. You guys do not scare me. You do not

38:06intimidate me. And you'll be seeing me

38:07soon. Thank you.

38:08>> Thank you, sir.

38:12next speaker or was that the last

38:14speaker?

38:17>> Hold on, ma'am.

38:23>> Ma'am.

38:24>> Yes, sir.

38:26>> At some point, you have to cut off.

38:28>> Yes, sir. Through the chair.

38:30>> We will give you two minutes

38:33>> through the chair. So today I was on a

38:36bus and I seen the man who raped me

38:39that's on the Detroit Police Department

38:41with a fake name. I don't know if he's

38:43been transferred again because he they

38:44didn't transferred him three times.

38:46That's not acceptable. Like I told Chief

38:48Warfield a long time ago. He have a bad

38:51eye. You cannot confuse him. His real

38:54name is to force N. Let me see. So you

38:58all have these cameras on the bus. It's

39:00real time.

39:02and it shouldn't be a problem. But see,

39:04the problem is to start from the top.

39:07You don't want to admit that he's on the

39:09force just like was on the Detroit

39:11Police Department and all these other

39:13ex-offenders and non-American citizens.

39:15Because if you admit it, that means that

39:18you did not do your job properly.

39:20Period. From the top to the bottom, from

39:22the mayor all the way down. And like the

39:25last caller said, it's okay to exercise

39:28your first amendment long as you don't

39:30be disrespectful or threaten anyone. So

39:33it was a need for him to respect her

39:36pride or dignity dignity or what was it.

39:40I mean cuz at the end of the day it

39:41didn't have nothing to do with him. He's

39:44the chief of police. That's the bottom

39:46line. His job is to he should be making

39:49sure exoffenders and non-Americans are

39:51not on the Detroit Police Department.

39:53And this is how they voting illegally

39:55through the Detroit Police Department.

39:59I

40:01continue to talk about this, but you all

40:02act like you don't hear me. The bottom

40:05line is it's going to be a lot of

40:07different changes going around in this

40:09city cuz you already see who's being

40:11investigated. And at the end of the day,

40:13tell the truth and shame the devil

40:15everything you do. And when you conspire

40:17to cover up anything illegally, it is

40:20conspiracy. and that can get you more

40:21time than what your actually crime is.

40:24Thank you and have a good day through

40:25the chair.

40:27>> Thank you, ma'am.

40:28>> Any other speakers?

40:30>> Thank you very much,

40:34>> Mr. Chair.

40:34>> Went that way.

40:35>> Commissioner Camille.

40:37>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just had a

40:38follow-up question for chief

40:39investigator um in regards to Miss Tanya

40:42Jackson's concern that she brought

40:44today. Do you know if that additional

40:47incident was added to her complaint? I

40:49asked her to have that additional

40:52information forwarded to you all

40:55>> through the chair.

40:55>> Yes, sir.

40:56>> Because it came in today, if it came in

40:58today, it's not in our system yet, but I

41:00can check and see once I get back to the

41:02office.

41:02>> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

41:04>> Yes, Commissioner Woods.

41:06>> Yeah. Uh let me make it absolutely clear

41:08to the public uh that we do not

41:11investigate criminal matters and we're

41:13going to continue to emphasize that so

41:16that the public can understand

41:19uh what is our uh duties as a police

41:22commission. Uh that's not the purview of

41:26the Detroit Police Commission. Uh we

41:29don't we we're

41:31>> uh we we uh don't try to interfere in

41:36investigations.

41:38We don't uh interfere in no shape, form

41:41or fashion. We don't try to put charges

41:43on people and try to get charges off of

41:45people. That is a criminal process that

41:49is not in the purview of the board of

41:53police commission. Uh if we if some of

41:56these commissioners uh some of us had

41:58that type of power, everybody probably

42:00be in jail or out of jail, you know. So

42:03ain't nowhere in the world that I'm a

42:05cop and ain't no cop up here. There's no

42:08police officers or who have police

42:11powers that is on this board in any

42:16shape, form or fashion.

42:19uh if uh citizens are not getting the

42:21proper services from the police

42:24department then that is something that

42:26the office of chief investigator

42:29investigate. We have investigators for

42:31that and they go through that particular

42:34process and we review those and we sign

42:38off on those uh if they are right if

42:41they we feel that it need more

42:42investigation some other things need to

42:44be done then we'll send it back for

42:46further investigation

42:48you know but we are not the police we

42:51are oversight board that oversee citizen

42:56complaints my heart breaks for some of

42:58the citizens that all in on uh because

43:02you know I wish I could do something to

43:04help them. Uh and some cases we can be

43:08able to bridge that gap. Uh and when we

43:11able to do that, that's that's a a good

43:14thing. You know, uh sometimes uh if you

43:17think uh that the Detroit police

43:19officers are so corrupt and doing it

43:21that bad, go to the state police or go

43:23to any other agency, go to the attorney

43:26general, go to whoever you want to go

43:27to. uh and we can help point you in the

43:30right directions in some cases, you

43:32know, but we are not crime fighters.

43:36[clears throat]

43:38>> Thank you, Commissioner Woods. I just

43:40have one question. I know when the lady

43:42was talking, she had mentioned the names

43:44of Commissioner Camille and Commissioner

43:46Morris. What district

43:50uh was this complaint out of?

43:51>> Uh through the chair, that complaint is

43:53out of uh Commissioner Ivy's district.

43:56Uh my district is district three. Okay.

43:59>> Um also real quick I would like to add

44:01that you know what people see here at

44:03the table is not all we do. There's a

44:06lot of things that we get done and

44:07problems we solve behind the scenes. We

44:10don't have to wait till we get to the

44:12table. You you don't see the funerals

44:15that commissioners up here pay for. You

44:18don't see the jails and the prisons that

44:21commissioners visit to give people hope.

44:24You don't see last week, two days in a

44:27row, a woman who's a domestic violence

44:30victim who had a PO out against somebody

44:32and I had to park and sit outside her

44:36door from 10:00 p.m. to 4:00 a.m. in the

44:39morning just so she can get a good

44:41night's sleep. There's a lot of things

44:43that we do behind the scenes to help our

44:46community that we don't bring to the

44:48table in the forefront because we not

44:50trying to get no spotlight for it. So

44:53what you see here being a commissioner

44:56isn't what you do for two to three hours

44:58on Thursday. It's what you do between

45:00each Thursday. And we do the best we

45:03can, you know, and we and and and we we

45:07do over the amount of hours and work

45:09than what we're supposed to do according

45:11to the charter. We we really do. And

45:14then we have to sit up here and and and

45:17in the midst of the service that we're

45:19providing to the citizens, we have to

45:21sit up here and deal with false

45:23allegations, people that are upset over

45:28things that we have no control over. We

45:30have the chief's office, which we have

45:32right now sitting here AC Salone. She

45:35represents the Detroit Police

45:36Department. We have Chief Warfield who

45:39represent the office of chief

45:41investigator. The only thing we do is we

45:44oversee their operations to make sure

45:46that they're doing what they're supposed

45:48to do. We sit up here. We try to make

45:51sure that when officers come before us

45:54that have been investigated by OCI and

45:58they found to have done something wrong,

46:00we hold them accountable. We do not let

46:03them off the hook. If officers have a

46:06bad record and a bad track record, when

46:08they come up here to try to be promoted

46:11in rank, we stop it. We shut it down.

46:15So, we we we we do the best we can and

46:18nobody's perfect,

46:21you know, but the the situation it

46:23incurred in is Commissioner Ivy's

46:26district and I know that she was already

46:28dealing with that. I wanted to help her

46:32because I I you know I'm human and my

46:34mother was a domestic violence victim.

46:36She had her jaw broke. So I understand

46:39what Miss Jackson is going through and I

46:42understand that she has a desire to want

46:44to be heard. Um but there are certain

46:47things that are outside of our control

46:51and we have to go through the process

46:53like anybody else. If we start melaning

46:56in processes, see it comes up the

46:58ladder. We're here. If we start coming

47:01down here interfering with the process

47:03of what they're doing, then now we land

47:05up in front of the office of inspector

47:08general for overststepping our our

47:10bounds and for abusing our power. I've

47:13been there, done that. We we went a a

47:17young man 18 years old downtown at the

47:21fireworks who was running away from the

47:23officer and was shot in the back.

47:28and me and another commissioner went and

47:31visit him in the hospital because his

47:34people is out of town. They didn't even

47:36know if he was still alive. But we went

47:39ahead and visited him and in the midst

47:41of visited him, you know, he started to

47:45talk about the situation and tell us

47:48that he never put that officer life in

47:51uh life in jeopardy and in danger. And

47:54we just when the media asked us about

47:56our visit, we told them about our visit

47:58and told what was told to us and that it

48:01was a second side of the story. The

48:04police unions, the police union got

48:06upset and tried to say that we were

48:08interfering in their investigation.

48:10Y'all have seen me in the media where

48:12the union have tried to conspire with

48:15different people and different reporters

48:17to try to the the to make me look bad

48:20and make commissioners look bad because

48:22we won't sell out. We stand for we we I

48:26don't call myself a police commissioner.

48:27I call myself the people's commissioner.

48:30We are your union. We're here. We're

48:32going to do the best we can. We've been

48:34doing the best we can. We'll continue.

48:36That's all I have to say. Thank you.

48:38>> Thank you, Commissioner Morris. through

48:39the chair

48:40>> on the table

48:41>> through the chair.

48:44>> Commissioner Ivy.

48:45>> Yes. I you know again thank you chair. I

48:47just want to reflect on Miss Jackson's

48:49question and her concern. When I

48:52initially helped Miss Jackson her

48:53original complaint that complaint was

48:55follow through and it was resolved and

48:58she understood that. Now she made her

49:00own claim today. She does not want my

49:03help in this situation

49:05>> for whatever reason. That's fine. But

49:06let me be clear to the public and to

49:08this board and to the people in the

49:09audience today. I stand by the decisions

49:12that this board make and I stand by the

49:14decisions that the police department

49:16make when we're investigating

49:17noncriminal complaints. As Commissioner

49:19Wood said, we do not we do not

49:24investigate criminal complaints. And

49:28when we get them, we advocate on behalf

49:30of citizens who have criminal

49:32complaints, trying to navigate them

49:34through the right persons to have their

49:37voices heard. Now, if a citizen does not

49:40want Commissioner Ivy's help, I'm going

49:42to oblige that. I have no problem with

49:44that. But the job that she originally

49:46asked me to do, it was done. And so

49:49therefore, anything else moving forward,

49:52she does not want my help. And so at the

49:54end of the day, I will not be concerning

49:56myself with that because it's a criminal

49:58complaint. So I can't do anything with

50:00it anyway. So just let everybody else

50:03know in district one, I'm doing the job

50:05that I was hired to do and I'm going

50:07continue to do the work that I'm hired

50:09to do as a commissioner on behalf of

50:12this board and my district that I serve.

50:17>> Thank you, Commissioner Ivy.

50:18Commissioner Camille.

50:19>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to

50:21clarify um and thank you to my colleague

50:24Commissioner Woods for clarifying the

50:27role of the BOPC. Um and I believe that

50:30all of us as commissioners understand

50:31that

50:33Miss Jackson only had two minutes and

50:36did not express everything regarding

50:39that incident. There are components of

50:41that incident that have to do with

50:43concerns about um members of the police

50:47department. And so she has been properly

50:49advised on which components need to go

50:52to OCI and which components need to go

50:54to the police department. I'm trusting

50:56that she'll follow through on those

50:58actions. And I'm also trusting that OCI

51:01will receive on those complaints as they

51:03are mandated by the charter um triage

51:07those and then determine if there are

51:09any um components of that that are

51:11criminal in nature. They will forward

51:14those over to the appropriate

51:16authorities. And so I think that um with

51:19this additional um situation that Miss

51:22Jackson has um experienced and I'm I'm

51:26very saddened that she continues to

51:29experience things that is our

51:31responsibility um and our staff's

51:33responsibility to receive on those

51:35complaints and handle them appropriately

51:37according to the charter. Thank you, Mr.

51:39Chair.

51:40>> You're welcome. Commissioner Camille,

51:41Commissioner Woods.

51:42>> Yeah, through the chair. Uh yeah, I was

51:44speaking in a general sense in terms of

51:46all public comments, but you know, the

51:49the fact the fact of the matter is is

51:51that um like you said, you know, people,

51:55you know, a a citizen complaint is a

51:58citizen complaint. And I have confidence

52:01in OCI abilities to

52:06send those that are criminal to the

52:09right places. you know, uh, Chief

52:11Warfield has done a phenomenal job and

52:13the team over there in OCI has done a

52:16phenomenal job and and contrary to

52:18popular belief, you know, the our

52:21backlog is all we will be able to uh

52:24have some great announcements very very

52:26soon as it relates to the so-called

52:28backlog that people think that we are

52:30plagued with, you know, so I have

52:32confidence in OCI ability to do that.

52:35you know, I I don't try to

52:40uh involve myself into uh a complaint.

52:45I'm a neutral arbiter.

52:48>> I'm not here to take complaints. Uh I

52:51would send and refer your complaint over

52:54to the uh OCI because I'm neutral. I

53:00have to be neutral in the process. I

53:03cannot uh take the police side. I can't

53:07take the citizen side. I got to take the

53:09truth. I got and and that's how OCI is a

53:12sacred entity uh within the city of

53:15Detroit that it has to remain neutral.

53:19And I'm not trying to uh uh sway an

53:23investigation one way or another. If a a

53:26a citizen has a complaint, they have a

53:29complaint,

53:31you know. uh and uh I think it's we need

53:35to continue to keep it sacred and which

53:37I know uh the colleagues understand that

53:40you know this is for public consumption

53:42you know that we cannot interfere

53:45uh in these type of matters you know uh

53:48and let me say this I continue to have

53:51confidence in the chief of police

53:54>> I continue to have confidence in him uh

53:57uh that was talked about in uh public

54:01comment. I continue to see this man

54:04sacrifice much uh people who were

54:07victimized out in the community uh by

54:10homicide and by murder and things of

54:12that nature. I watched this man on

54:14yesterday uh uh give $1,000 to a a a

54:18father who have been grieving who I have

54:20met with uh months and months ago about

54:24uh his suffering and what he went

54:26through. He he compelled me so much that

54:28I matched that $1,000. I don't say that

54:30for that, but I have seen the chief give

54:33thousands of dollars

54:35>> to people that's suffering, that's

54:37hurting, been in homes with people uh

54:41where uh they have been uh violated by

54:45homicide and the children didn't have

54:48Christmas presents and things of that

54:49nature. You know, that's what I have

54:51confidence in, you know, and so uh

54:54that's just in a general sense since we

54:56talking about public comment.

54:58Thank you, Commissioner Woods. Vice

55:00Chair Watts.

55:01>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to say

55:03I appreciate all the colleagues comments

55:04and I'm looking forward to item number

55:06four, DC.

55:08>> That's a [laughter] good one.

55:11>> Thank you, Vice Chair Watts.

55:14Commissioner Bowman.

55:15>> Yeah. Yeah, I just wanted to briefly say

55:16while we're on the matter of criminal

55:18and noncriminal complaints, um if there

55:21the one case where there may be a

55:24connect is if there is a case where a

55:27criminal complaint that has been put to

55:31the um Detroit Police Department and if

55:34you've repeatedly tried to get a

55:37complaint investigated and have not had

55:39something happen, then lack of service

55:44could be a non noncriminal complaint.

55:47>> Absolutely.

55:47>> So, that would be a connection between

55:49them and maybe in some cases that would

55:52um at least possibly apply and be

55:55something to think about. So, I just

55:56wanted to throw that in there. Um

55:59>> but still the you the first course of

56:02action is to go to your law enforcement

56:05agency um with the complaint about um a

56:08specific criminal behavior.

56:10>> It Thank you, Commissioner Bowman.

56:13looking around the table. Seeing no more

56:16hands, we will move on to item number

56:18four on the agenda and Assistant Chief

56:21Sloan, we will turn it over to you,

56:23ma'am.

56:24>> The chair, thank you very much. Uh, just

56:26want to start off by saying thank you

56:28for allowing me to be here in place of

56:29the chief. It's always an honor and I

56:31wanted to thank the board personally for

56:33the resolution for police officer Steven

56:36Rouser. Um, on behalf of his family and

56:39the fourth precinct, I know that they

56:40would appreciate that. He was an

56:41outstanding officer. I had the pleasure

56:43of working with at the fourth precinct

56:45and uh his personality and love for this

56:47city will be missed.

56:49Um second of all, I wanted to take a

56:52moment to introduce Lieutenant Robert

56:54Snyder who was unable to make it to the

56:57board meeting last week during the

56:59conversations for the promotions. Uh I

57:02don't know if you'd like to say a couple

57:04of words.

57:08>> Step up to

57:09>> you can come to the microphone.

57:11>> [laughter]

57:14>> to meet.

57:15>> Yeah,

57:19>> ma'am. For the record, please state your

57:21name.

57:22>> Currently, Sergeant Lauren Robert

57:24Snyder. Uh, thank you, honorable. I

57:26understand that that motion for my

57:28promotion was approved uh during the

57:30last meeting due to uh a technical

57:33error. I wasn't notified to be present,

57:35and I'd like to apologize for that.

57:38>> Thank you. And congratulations,

57:43>> [applause]

57:46>> and she looked like she could fight too.

57:48[laughter]

57:52>> Thank you.

57:54>> Okay. And then moving on through the

57:55chair.

57:56>> Yes, ma'am.

57:57>> Some of the current stats, our crime

57:59stats are still trending in the right

58:01direction. Uh today we have 105

58:04homicides, which is down 23 or 18% over

58:08last year. We are down 35 non-fatal

58:12shootings, which is 10% over last year.

58:15We're down 42 robberies, which

58:17calculates to 6% reduction. Overall

58:20total part one violent crime, we're down

58:233%, which is 259 less incidents from

58:27last year. Our carjackings

58:28[clears throat]

58:29continue to trend in the right

58:30direction. Today, we have 51 compared to

58:3365 last year for a reduction of 20%. A

58:36couple of major arrests to notify the

58:39board about was the arrest made in the

58:41mass shooting that occurred on September

58:4327th approximately 7 a.m. that was

58:46mentioned earlier on Press Street near

58:48Eaton where seven people were shot,

58:50three fatally. Very unfortunate event

58:53that occurred. Uh, but I'm happy to

58:55report that the Detroit Police

58:56Department's homicide task force uh

58:59worked day and night on this case and

59:00was able to identify and apprehend the

59:03individual responsible with the

59:04assistant the assistance, excuse me, of

59:07the second precinct and the officers at

59:08the vice unit. A warrant has been

59:11submitted to the Wayne County

59:12Prosecutor's Office and we anticipate

59:13charges soon.

59:16There were also charges filed in a fatal

59:18crash that occurred on September 26th uh

59:21that occurred near crash near Whitorn.

59:25Allegedly, the defendant was driving

59:27while under the influence when he caused

59:29a crash hitting multiple vehicles

59:31including the victim's vehicle and a

59:33motorcycle. The victim who was on a

59:35motorcycle was a woman in her 50s. She

59:38succumbed to her injuries. On September

59:4029th, following an investigation by DPD

59:42officers, charges were filed against

59:44Eric Third Thurkhead in connection with

59:47a fatal crash. The defendant was taken

59:49into custody and charged with operating

59:52while intoxicated, causing death, and a

59:54moving violation for causing death. Our

59:57traffic enforcement continues to be a

59:59priority. Um from September 20th through

1:00:02the 26th of this year, the traffic

1:00:04enforcement unit conducted operations in

1:00:06the second, fourth, 10th, and 11th pre

1:00:09precincts. Officers made 325 traffic

1:00:12stops, issued 705 moving violations, and

1:00:1676 tickets for speeding.

1:00:19A couple of community updates. Uh

1:00:21yesterday, uh Chief Bettison along with

1:00:23members of the Detroit Police Department

1:00:25and members of the community walked a

1:00:27mile throughout the second precinct. The

1:00:29last walk a mile Wednesday of the season

1:00:31will take place in the third precinct at

1:00:33Alternatives for Girls located at 9003

1:00:36West Graham Boulevard. Assembly is to

1:00:39start at 5:30 and the walk will take off

1:00:42around 6:00 p.m. We also wanted to

1:00:45report on the Citizens of Police

1:00:47Academy. [snorts] On October 6, 2026, we

1:00:50are starting another session of our

1:00:52Citizens Police Academy. This is a

1:00:5410-week course that teaches members of

1:00:56our community about law enforcement and

1:00:58what the DPD does on a daily basis. If

1:01:01anyone is interested in joining, please

1:01:03contact coral corporal Robinson at

1:01:06313-810-6621.

1:01:10That's 313-810-6621.

1:01:14And that concludes my report.

1:01:16>> Thank you, Assistant Chief Sloan. Madame

1:01:19Vice Chair,

1:01:21>> thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh thank you for

1:01:22the report uh related to the the mass

1:01:25shooting. Thank you for your guys

1:01:26expeditious uh on on apprehending

1:01:28someone uh with a terrible terrible

1:01:31tragedy. Um I know I received and and

1:01:33have talked to some community

1:01:35organizations uh because it was reported

1:01:37that seven calls had been made regarding

1:01:39that location this year. Was that

1:01:42correct in this calendar year

1:01:43>> through the chair? Yes, ma'am. Uh there

1:01:45were several calls that had been made.

1:01:47Not all of them were necessarily related

1:01:49to the uh activities that were reported

1:01:53there. Uh but there was an ongoing

1:01:55investigation that I can't go into too

1:01:56much detail on, but there was something

1:01:58that we were working on.

1:01:59>> Thank you. And my comments is not to

1:02:01particularly related to this incident

1:02:02because I know it's an ongoing

1:02:04investigation, but just overall uh as we

1:02:06go crisscross across the city and some

1:02:08individuals indicated similar homes on

1:02:11their block, they've identified that

1:02:12maybe have this activity. Uh so I'm just

1:02:15suggesting that as we continue to engage

1:02:17the community, stay in touch, uh with

1:02:19our associations, uh black club

1:02:21captains, maybe we can have our captains

1:02:23or NPOs really really engage those so

1:02:25that way as a clear line of

1:02:27communication. So uh if if a neighbor or

1:02:30association suspects of activity, they

1:02:33don't have to call seven times. We could

1:02:35all bridge that gap and work together to

1:02:37rid these activities out of our

1:02:38neighborhoods. Thank you.

1:02:41>> Thank you, Vice Chair Watts.

1:02:44Commissioner Woods.

1:02:45>> Um, I I'd like to really uh shout out uh

1:02:49the department as well as uh uh the

1:02:52mayor uh for their rapid response to the

1:02:56community over there. I was able to go

1:02:58out the other day and canvas that uh

1:03:01whole neighborhood uh entire the entire

1:03:04block uh and they have mental health

1:03:07services. They had a number of uh uh

1:03:11organizations out there knocking on

1:03:13every door on the block to check on the

1:03:16neighbors and to connect them to

1:03:18community-based resources. And um uh the

1:03:21new uh um uh deputy chief uh Russell,

1:03:25she was out there along with the

1:03:27commander uh NPOS's and uh a number of

1:03:32people from the mayor's office. and um

1:03:35is it was a restorative process and they

1:03:37having a uh a meeting. Uh I would get

1:03:41that information and make sure that we

1:03:44get it on our website or on our uh

1:03:46Facebook page. Uh but it's a flyer uh

1:03:49with a a community meeting at Detroit uh

1:03:52300 uh location on uh I believe that's

1:03:56Grand River,

1:03:58>> you know, and so uh

1:04:00>> uh powerful response.

1:04:02That's what uh community looks like. And

1:04:06um so very very thankful and grateful of

1:04:08that, you know, and um just was able BC

1:04:12was going down the street with them.

1:04:14They was picking up abandoned cars and

1:04:16things of that nature trying to

1:04:19>> [snorts]

1:04:19>> um do some things in that community. But

1:04:21as a rapid response from the mayor's

1:04:24office, I think that's powerful and it

1:04:26looks something that's going to be real

1:04:27good for, you know, even when these

1:04:30tragedies are not happening, um they

1:04:33standing up a um to make community

1:04:36restorative communities. And so I would

1:04:39encourage people to tap into uh the

1:04:42mayor's office for more information

1:04:44about that. uh and uh council president

1:04:47um folks were out there to uh to be able

1:04:50to um unleash the city resources and the

1:04:54department resources on that community.

1:04:59>> Thank you, Commissioner Woods.

1:05:01Commissioner Camille.

1:05:02>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Chief,

1:05:04for your report today. Um couple

1:05:05questions here. um also um was very

1:05:09concerned about um the mass shooting

1:05:12that's been discussed already and um in

1:05:16light of that there is a block club in

1:05:19the second precinct that has been asking

1:05:21for and I've been asking on their behalf

1:05:24um because this is what the neighbors

1:05:25over there want is um increased patrol

1:05:29um due to several incidents that have

1:05:31happened in the area. certainly do not

1:05:34want that to escalate. Um, and so they

1:05:37haven't received that increased patrol.

1:05:39So, I have a couple questions in light

1:05:41of that. First of all, when will the no

1:05:45and the patrol teams be fully staffed so

1:05:47that community members see DPD as often

1:05:50and as they're expecting to? And then

1:05:52also for locations where neighbors are

1:05:55indicating there's, you know, a location

1:05:57that is high risk, what are the

1:05:59resources that DPD is reaching out to

1:06:02outside of DPD um to get ahead of those

1:06:05matters, you know, in a situation where

1:06:07maybe it's not at the level of law

1:06:09enforcement yet. Um, but something that

1:06:11could be deescalated and and ensure that

1:06:13it doesn't escalate to that point

1:06:17>> through [clears throat] the chair. Yes,

1:06:18ma'am. So, uh, I am aware of a

1:06:21supervisor shortage at the second

1:06:23precinct, including the MO supervisor.

1:06:25So, with this current promotion ceremony

1:06:29upcoming in the assignments, we are

1:06:30paying special attention to those

1:06:32shortages and attempting to fill them.

1:06:34Uh, as far as resources outside of DPD,

1:06:37uh, we have a lot of, uh, avenues that

1:06:40can be explored for situations that

1:06:42don't quite

1:06:44>> [clears throat]

1:06:44>> um, criminal or criminality. Um, some of

1:06:48those connections are through the city,

1:06:50some are through outside agencies to

1:06:51bring resources in. Uh, but it's it's

1:06:54always ongoing and it's very situational

1:06:56depending on what the needs in the

1:06:57community are.

1:07:00Thank you, Chief, through the chair. Um,

1:07:02and then my last question is, you know,

1:07:06I'm concerned about the number of

1:07:07situations we're seeing both that hit

1:07:10the news and some of them come across

1:07:11our desk and don't actually hit the news

1:07:14in regards to substance abuse. violent

1:07:17behavior

1:07:18um of individuals within the department.

1:07:21And the chief mentioned a new program

1:07:23that you all are working on to better

1:07:26support the officers in mental health

1:07:28and substance abuse. Can we get a

1:07:31timeline on when we expect to have that

1:07:33rolled out to us um so we can have an

1:07:35idea of of when we can start seeing

1:07:37impacts from it

1:07:39>> through the chair? Yes, ma'am. I don't

1:07:40know the timeline at this point, but I

1:07:42can definitely get that for you.

1:07:44>> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. You're

1:07:46welcome. Uh,

1:07:49>> Commissioner Morris.

1:07:51>> Yes. Uh, through the chair, uh, AC, we

1:07:54had dealt with, um, the heat wave over

1:07:57the summertime over at the Detroit

1:08:00Detention Center and and dealing with

1:08:02those 100 degree days and there not

1:08:05being any air conditioning inside the

1:08:07jail. So, what is your plan of action?

1:08:12Um because we know, you know, sometimes

1:08:15if you if you know if you're going to uh

1:08:17do work at the facility, you got to go

1:08:20through a bidding process. Someone has

1:08:23to be selected, then it takes months,

1:08:25you know, for the installation process.

1:08:27So, we'll be back around to the to the

1:08:30summer before you know it. What is your

1:08:31plan of action um before th those days

1:08:35get here to address that the heat wave

1:08:39>> through the chair? The Yes, ma'am. The

1:08:41plan is to uh procure air conditioning

1:08:45systems for the DDC. I know that it is

1:08:48in progress the purchase of those items

1:08:52and I'm noticing that the temperatures

1:08:55in the DDC that are documented in the

1:08:57report that's provided to the board are

1:08:59pretty stable at this point. But I

1:09:00understand your concern that once it

1:09:02gets hot again, will we be to a position

1:09:05where we solve that issue? I anticipate

1:09:07that within the next uh several months

1:09:10we will make some progress on that and

1:09:12there will be purchase orders and

1:09:13purchases made to install the air

1:09:15conditioning units.

1:09:16>> So you've already started that process.

1:09:18You've already spoken with companies.

1:09:20You have some documentation you can

1:09:22provide the board with who you spoke

1:09:24with and what bids you've been given so

1:09:26far

1:09:27>> through the chair. No, I don't know if

1:09:29the procurement process has gotten as

1:09:32far as vendor selection or vendor

1:09:34submissions. Uh, but we can certainly

1:09:37find out a little more detail about

1:09:39where all of that process stands.

1:09:41>> Please do. Thank you. Thank you, Chair.

1:09:43>> You're welcome.

1:09:45>> Commissioner Bowman.

1:09:47>> Yeah. Hi. Um, just a couple short

1:09:49things. First of all, thank you for

1:09:51mentioning the um, Citizens Academy. I'm

1:09:54glad they're doing that again. and I

1:09:55participated in that myself a few years

1:09:57back and um it definitely gives a person

1:10:00um some insight into um the experience

1:10:04of police officers and some of the

1:10:07standard operating procedures and some

1:10:08good ideas for your own safety. Um, I

1:10:13really just curious about something and

1:10:15I don't know if you have an answer to

1:10:16this or you know if the DPW or whoever

1:10:20is responsible um, you know, explains

1:10:23things to police when they close off

1:10:26lanes of traffic, but I noticed

1:10:28something peculiar on Southbound Lodge

1:10:32um, right over, you know, that goes past

1:10:34this building where it terminates and

1:10:36then one um, exit goes to West Jefferson

1:10:41and the other one goes underneath Coobo

1:10:43Hall. I've noticed for a couple weeks

1:10:46now that there has been a bottleneck

1:10:49created by the closure of a lane so that

1:10:53effectively the traffic going to both

1:10:55exits is for a distance of a few hundred

1:10:58feet forced to be in one lane before

1:11:01they can then split up again to go to

1:11:03the two exits. Um, this causes a lot of

1:11:06tie-ups and backups all the way back

1:11:08past the Howard Street exit. And there's

1:11:11no construction going on there. I don't

1:11:12see anything going on there at all, just

1:11:16closed lane. And I'm just wondering

1:11:18what's going on there.

1:11:19>> Excuse me, M. Let me just say something

1:11:21here. If I'm not mistaken, that's an M

1:11:22DOT.

1:11:23>> Thank you,

1:11:24>> the chair. Yes, sir. That's a state

1:11:26interstate.

1:11:26>> Yeah. So, that would be an M dot

1:11:28situation.

1:11:29>> Okay.

1:11:33>> Thank you. Anything else, Commissioner

1:11:34Bowman?

1:11:35>> Oh, um, that's all.

1:11:36>> Thank you, sir. Uh I would just like to

1:11:39say I was had it at the um unfortunate

1:11:43incident that took place this weekend.

1:11:46Uh I was uh there and one of the things

1:11:50that was mentioned is that before any

1:11:52911 calls were received is that shot

1:11:56spotter first picked up the shots and it

1:12:00allowed the police to get there earlier

1:12:03than uh in responding to the 911 call.

1:12:07So I it is my understanding that that

1:12:10shot spotter did pick up the shots. So

1:12:13just wanted to make that make the

1:12:15community and aware. Thank you very

1:12:18much.

1:12:20Anything else?

1:12:22>> Thank you. [laughter]

1:12:24All right. I will move on to the report

1:12:28from the board secretary. Madame Garnia.

1:12:32>> Mr. chair through the chair. Um for the

1:12:35commissioners in your binders today

1:12:38under tab six, a number of reports and

1:12:42responses to inquiries are included

1:12:45there that would have you would have

1:12:47received electronically and today for

1:12:50the most part in your binders. The

1:12:52announcements for today are, excuse

1:12:55[clears throat] me, the next board

1:12:56meeting occurring next Thursday. October

1:13:008th is the October community meeting

1:13:03will be in the third precinct located

1:13:06next week at Considine Center, 8904

1:13:10Woodward Avenue in Detroit. The November

1:13:13community meeting presently scheduled is

1:13:16Thursday, November 12th, 6:30 p.m.

1:13:19Second Precinct Adam Butzel located on

1:13:22Lynen Street in Detroit. And those are

1:13:25the announcements for today.

1:13:28>> Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:13:30>> Mr. Chair.

1:13:32>> Yes.

1:13:32>> Question for the staff. Thank you. Um,

1:13:35so through the through the chair to

1:13:37Madam Secretary, when the reports are

1:13:40coming in from DPD, is is the staff

1:13:43making sure that any updates that we

1:13:45requested are applied to those before we

1:13:48get them? We got the AI, I'm sorry, the

1:13:51IIA, internal affairs

1:13:54and force reports in last week and I did

1:13:57send an email over to Mr. Bad Battersby

1:14:00as well as yourself because those were

1:14:02not updated with the disposition of the

1:14:04closed cases as was requested and I know

1:14:07we only get those once a month. I would

1:14:09hate for us to get around again to

1:14:11another month and that still not be

1:14:13there. So I'd really like the report

1:14:16that we got the reports we got last week

1:14:18to be updated with what was requested

1:14:20and then to make sure that that's on

1:14:21there going forward.

1:14:26>> Yes, Madam Secretary,

1:14:27>> Mr. chair. Um the staff does its best,

1:14:31its due diligence to review the reports

1:14:34compared to the requests in detail that

1:14:38have been made at the table as well as

1:14:40if we receive information that

1:14:43additional requests are made not

1:14:44necessarily through the board um BOPC

1:14:48inbox, but possibly through DPD or some

1:14:51other area to compare the reports and

1:14:54provide as much detail as has been

1:14:57requested. requested. It's my

1:14:59understanding

1:15:00um that with the IIA report, the

1:15:05information that has been requested

1:15:08is not cannot be made available because

1:15:11of certain restrictions is prohibited

1:15:13from being put back on that report. Uh

1:15:17I'm not certain and if D uh AC Sloan uh

1:15:22permits someone from DPD to respond to

1:15:25that now or we can bring it back uh next

1:15:28week as far as that information that can

1:15:30no longer be cited on that report.

1:15:34>> Corporal Battersby

1:15:41>> excuse me.

1:15:43Oh, please

1:15:46>> through the chair. Yes, sir. The the

1:15:49request that uh BOPC Camille requested

1:15:52uh is unable to do to be added to that

1:15:54report. Due to the nature of that

1:15:56report, it turns over every 30 days. So,

1:15:59we would have to create a new report.

1:16:01So, basically when you're looking at

1:16:03that report, that is the last 30 days

1:16:06worth of data. The next report you get

1:16:08is that current month's

1:16:12use of data. So it it's not talking hand

1:16:15in hand. So we couldn't put what the

1:16:18outcome of that was because we've

1:16:19already moved on to the next set of

1:16:21cases on that particular report.

1:16:25Now if you want a disposition for those

1:16:28cases that's going to come down the road

1:16:30because it takes time for those to

1:16:32happen. That's not the final outcome

1:16:36>> through the chair.

1:16:39>> Ma'am,

1:16:39>> thank you. Um, thank you uh, Mr.

1:16:42Batterdsby. So, one, I just want to make

1:16:45sure like when we have requests, if

1:16:47there's something that can't be

1:16:48fulfilled, that should be communicated

1:16:51so we're not wondering why it's not

1:16:54there. Um, thank you for this

1:16:56explanation. So, I I have the report up

1:16:59in front of me, the force report just

1:17:01for um, an example. So, we have on here

1:17:06like the incident number, the date, the

1:17:09um incident type, the precinct agency,

1:17:12and case status, which on this part of

1:17:15it, all of them say closed. So, what

1:17:18you're saying is that even though those

1:17:20are closed, there's some things that are

1:17:22still going on where you don't know the

1:17:24disposition just yet, at least at the

1:17:26time that we're getting this report. Am

1:17:28I understanding?

1:17:29>> Correct. because the next report you're

1:17:31going to get is going to be the next

1:17:32report, the next month's worth of data

1:17:36for that ro for that month.

1:17:38>> Okay. So, do we just need a separate

1:17:40report to get the dispositions on these

1:17:43even if it happens down the road

1:17:45>> through the chair? That would be my

1:17:46recommendation.

1:17:48>> Okay. I'm I'm completely fine with that.

1:17:50I'm just looking for the information and

1:17:52if that's how it has to be set up, I'm

1:17:54accepting of that.

1:17:55>> And then through the chair, I just got

1:17:57this answer yesterday. That's why you

1:17:59weren't notified any sooner and I talked

1:18:01to uh the secretary lady about it. I was

1:18:04still trying to work on getting the

1:18:07appropriate answer that we were looking

1:18:09for.

1:18:09>> Understood. Thank you so much. Thank

1:18:11you, Mr. Chair.

1:18:12>> Thank you, Commissioner Camille. Thank

1:18:14you, Corporal Batterdsby,

1:18:18Assistant Chief. So, anything else?

1:18:20>> Yeah, you found the secretary.

1:18:22>> Secretary,

1:18:24>> Madam Secretary,

1:18:26>> is that it? I know you were responding.

1:18:28>> She done.

1:18:29>> Okay, you're done.

1:18:30>> Great.

1:18:31>> Okay.

1:18:33>> Thank you, Assistant Chief Slo.

1:18:35>> No problem,

1:18:36>> Secretary.

1:18:38[laughter]

1:18:38>> Thank you, Madam Secretary. Thank you,

1:18:41Assistant Chief Sloan.

1:18:42>> You're welcome, sir.

1:18:43>> Thank you. All right.

1:18:48Nothing under I think we're looking

1:18:50under new business and we're looking to

1:18:52go into a close session. Uh if if Oh, I

1:18:55do it after or if I can. I go after the

1:18:58uh close session. I was just gonna make

1:19:02a motion to uh uh post uh Blossom

1:19:05position.

1:19:10>> Yeah.

1:19:12>> They said I already Minister Blunt said

1:19:15I did. So I did. [laughter] Yeah. Um,

1:19:18I'd like to make a motion um that we

1:19:21post the uh uh the community um relation

1:19:27position

1:19:28uh with the necessary

1:19:30uh changes that need to be made through

1:19:33HR uh for posting

1:19:35>> support.

1:19:37>> It has been moved by Commissioner Woods

1:19:39and supported by uh Vice Chair

1:19:43>> Watts.

1:19:44>> Watts that we accept the motion. Is

1:19:47there any discussion on this motion?

1:19:49>> Discussion, Mr. Chair.

1:19:50>> Yes.

1:19:51>> So, I know that that position has been

1:19:54filled for a long time and I, you know,

1:19:56I trust that the the personnel and

1:19:58training committee is reviewing it with

1:20:00HR to make the updates before it's

1:20:02posted. Will all the commissioners get a

1:20:04chance to see the new job description

1:20:05before it goes up?

1:20:06>> Yeah. Uh, through the chair, absolutely.

1:20:09and um we can send it out and if folks

1:20:12any other commissioner has any thoughts

1:20:14uh to add something in there or take

1:20:16something out uh have at it.

1:20:19>> Thank you.

1:20:20>> Yep. Thank you. Thank you.

1:20:24Seeing no other hands, uh all in favor

1:20:27of this motion, please indicate by

1:20:28saying I.

1:20:29>> I opposed. Motion does carry. Thank you,

1:20:33commissioners.

1:20:34At this point we are looking to go into

1:20:37a close session and the chair will

1:20:39entertain a motion for that.

1:20:40>> So moved

1:20:41>> support.

1:20:43>> It has been moved by uh Commissioner

1:20:46>> Dwash.

1:20:47>> Dewash and supported by Commissioner

1:20:49Morris. Any is there any discussion on

1:20:52the motion?

1:20:53Hearing none. All in favor of the motion

1:20:55please indicate by saying I.

1:20:56>> I.

1:20:57>> I.

1:20:57>> We will adjourn for five minutes and

1:21:00reconvene for the close session.

1:21:02>> Three minutes. Three minutes. I've been

1:21:04told three minutes. [laughter]

1:21:09>> They going to be off.

1:21:18>> We'd like to call the uh meeting back to

1:21:20order. Madame Secretary, can you call

1:21:22the role, please?

1:21:28>> Commissioner Jones,

1:21:29>> present.

1:21:30>> Commissioner Watts. here.

1:21:35[laughter]

1:21:35>> I'm sorry. Commissioner Bowman

1:21:37>> present.

1:21:38>> Commissioner Camille

1:21:39>> present.

1:21:40>> Commissioner Carter

1:21:41>> here. Commissioner Dewash

1:21:43>> present.

1:21:43>> Commissioner Ivy

1:21:45>> present.

1:21:45>> Commissioner Morris

1:21:46>> present.

1:21:47>> Commissioner Williams

1:21:49>> present.

1:21:50>> Commissioner Woods

1:21:51>> present.

1:21:53>> 10 present. Sir,

1:21:55>> thank you.

1:21:55>> Mr. Chairman,

1:21:57>> it's the parliamentarian.

1:21:58>> Yes, ma'am. Um, I just wanted to make

1:22:01sure that the board, maybe you don't

1:22:03need this, but I just want to make sure

1:22:05you fully understand the options. The

1:22:07motion to uh accept the recommendation

1:22:10of permanent disqualification

1:22:13would need to be made and you can vote

1:22:15it up or down.

1:22:17>> But the other option is to make the

1:22:19motion for temporary disqualification

1:22:22and you can vote that up or down. But

1:22:24those two motions can't be made, but

1:22:26you're going to have to make a motion.

1:22:28You can't not do anything. I've seen

1:22:30this board on occasion

1:22:34not do anything, but you've got to make

1:22:36a motion. If the motion to adopt the

1:22:40recommendation is made and voted down,

1:22:44then that then eliminates the permanent

1:22:47disqualification.

1:22:49But if you want the other option of

1:22:52temporary disqualification,

1:22:54even if the motion to adopt the

1:22:56recommendation is made, you can make an

1:22:59amendment to change that to temporary.

1:23:03So, I just want to make sure the board

1:23:05we're all on the same page about which

1:23:06motions can be made.

1:23:08>> Thank you, Madam Parliamentarian. Now,

1:23:10I'm sorry. Give me

1:23:13somebody correct me. Don't we still have

1:23:16to acknowledge the people that are in

1:23:18the room? No, no.

1:23:19>> Thank you.

1:23:21>> Thank you very much, Commissioner Woods.

1:23:23>> Uh, I'd like to make a motion to deny

1:23:28um the permanent uh disqualification of

1:23:31the uh candidate. Um,

1:23:35and I'm trying to find her name.

1:23:38>> Ana Davidson.

1:23:39>> Ana Davidson. Um, I second that support.

1:23:42>> I'm sorry that motion

1:23:43>> we have to make.

1:23:43>> The motion is not in order,

1:23:45>> right? negative motion and it is rare.

1:23:48There are occasions where a negative

1:23:50motion can be in order. This is not one

1:23:51of them. I gave you two options.

1:23:55Make the motion to to accept the

1:23:58recommendation and vote it down.

1:24:00>> Correct.

1:24:01>> Or you can make the motion to um that

1:24:04that there be a temporary

1:24:07disqualification.

1:24:08But the motion to deny is not in order.

1:24:11>> Okay. So, I have to make the motion to

1:24:13accept it. You have to make the motion

1:24:15to accept the recommendation of

1:24:16permanent disqualification and those who

1:24:19are not in favor of that will say no.

1:24:22And if the motion is lost then that gets

1:24:25rid of the permanent disqualification.

1:24:27Okay? So

1:24:28>> or you can make the motion for temporary

1:24:31disqualification. Those are the two

1:24:33motions that you can make. You could

1:24:35even make one motion

1:24:37>> for to accept the recommendation for uh

1:24:41permanent and make an amendment

1:24:44>> to change that from permanent to

1:24:46temporary.

1:24:48>> You got two doors.

1:24:50>> I will make a motion to accept uh the u

1:24:55recommendation uh from the department

1:24:59>> for permanent disqualification.

1:25:02support.

1:25:03>> Supported.

1:25:04>> Point of order.

1:25:06>> Excuse me. We haven't uh [laughter] we

1:25:08haven't even moved to discussion yet.

1:25:10>> You have a point of order. That's an

1:25:11interrupting motion.

1:25:13>> Thank you, Commissioner Bowman.

1:25:15>> Um to be clear, if the motion to

1:25:19accept is passed, can there then be an

1:25:23amendment afterwards or does the

1:25:25amendment need to be made beforehand?

1:25:27>> Amendment would have to be made before.

1:25:29Oh, so make it not

1:25:30>> so during debate, let's say that you

1:25:32have you have a motion to accept the the

1:25:36recommendation for permanent

1:25:37disqualification.

1:25:38During that debate, anyone can say, "I

1:25:42move to amend to change permanent

1:25:45[clears throat] to temporary."

1:25:47>> Mhm.

1:25:48>> So you can make that amendment during

1:25:51debate on this current motion.

1:25:55>> Thank you, madam parliamentarian.

1:25:57>> Vote me down.

1:26:00looking around.

1:26:01>> We need you to state the motion and then

1:26:04the floor is open for debate. Mr.

1:26:06Chairman,

1:26:07>> thank you, Madam Parliamentarian.

1:26:09>> Speak into the speaker, please.

1:26:12[laughter]

1:26:13>> Thank you, Madam Parliamentarian.

1:26:16Commissioner Bowman.

1:26:18>> Um, yes. I would like to amend the

1:26:21motion to be from permanent

1:26:24disqualification to disqualification for

1:26:27two years.

1:26:32He just made a amendment to the motion.

1:26:35There's no second to it.

1:26:36>> There's no second.

1:26:39>> All right. So, we do have

1:26:40>> Mr. Chairman, you need to say lost for

1:26:42one of a second.

1:26:44>> I'm sorry. Say that again, Madam

1:26:45Parliamentary.

1:26:46>> Lost for want of a second.

1:26:49>> Lost.

1:26:51>> Lost from

1:26:52>> in want of a second.

1:26:53>> For want of a second. The motion was not

1:26:55seconded.

1:26:58Okay.

1:27:00And that that would be the second the

1:27:03motion that I'm sorry Commissioner

1:27:04Bowman Hold on one second. That would be

1:27:06the commission

1:27:07>> support the I want to support the motion

1:27:09>> that Commissioner Bowman made.

1:27:11>> Yes.

1:27:12>> Okay.

1:27:15>> Yeah. All right.

1:27:16>> Need you to state the amendment.

1:27:18>> Commissioner Bowman, please state the

1:27:21amendment to the motion.

1:27:22>> Yes. I would like to amend the motion to

1:27:27um support the recommendation to in um

1:27:31of permanent disqualification to instead

1:27:34be um that we support temporary

1:27:38disqualification for the period of two

1:27:40years

1:27:42>> support.

1:27:43>> Thank you. It has been moved and

1:27:46supported and you have heard the uh the

1:27:49motion. Is there any discussion on the

1:27:51motion?

1:27:51>> Yes. Yeah,

1:27:53>> Commissioner Morris.

1:27:55>> Um, I was just say that

1:27:57>> I'm sorry again, Mr. Chairman. The maker

1:27:59of the motion has the one time um

1:28:02priority to speak to the motion first.

1:28:04So, the question would be, does

1:28:06Commissioner Bowman wish to speak to his

1:28:08motion?

1:28:09>> Commissioner uh Bowman, would you like

1:28:12to speak to the motion? Um, we was in

1:28:13close session.

1:28:14>> Yes. While there were some um

1:28:16>> close session,

1:28:18>> I'm not going to repeat anything from

1:28:19close session, of course. Um,

1:28:22in my opinion, based on on looking at

1:28:25this case, I believe that we should

1:28:27grant the um

1:28:30repellent an opportunity to demonstrate

1:28:36um improvement over those two years

1:28:39rather um as opposed to um comparing to

1:28:43the most recent um more recent

1:28:46employment.

1:28:50Thank you. Uh any any other discussion?

1:28:53>> Yes,

1:28:54>> Commissioner Morris. Uh

1:28:56>> I would just want to say that um I

1:28:59believe in Miss Anika Davidson's ability

1:29:04to be rehabilitated. I believe in

1:29:06redemption and um therefore, you know, I

1:29:10am not going to be in agreements with

1:29:12that. I think she should be allowed to

1:29:14move forward uh right away without

1:29:17delay.

1:29:19Thank you.

1:29:19>> Thank you, sir. Commissioner Williams.

1:29:21>> Yeah, I echo uh everything Commissioner

1:29:23Moore said.

1:29:27>> Any other discussion on this motion?

1:29:32>> Seeing none, all in favor of the motion,

1:29:34please indicate by saying I.

1:29:36>> I.

1:29:37>> I.

1:29:37>> Any opposed?

1:29:38>> No.

1:29:39>> No.

1:29:41>> Let's go ahead.

1:29:42>> You don't have to have roll call. You

1:29:43can have raised hands.

1:29:45>> Okay. We'll do a roll call vote. Madam

1:29:47Secretary,

1:29:50>> please call

1:29:52for the uh roll call.

1:29:54>> Raise hands. She said

1:29:55>> raise hand.

1:29:55>> It's a point of order.

1:29:57>> No.

1:30:00>> Yeah.

1:30:00>> Yeah.

1:30:01>> Commissioner Watts.

1:30:03Do they understand the motion?

1:30:06>> Yeah, we understand the motion.

1:30:08[laughter]

1:30:10>> Watts.

1:30:12>> Yes.

1:30:14>> Point of order. Come on, man.

1:30:17>> Commissioner Bowman.

1:30:18>> Um, I'm I my inquiry is whether or not

1:30:23we are voting on the amendment to the

1:30:25motion or the motion.

1:30:26>> We are voting on the amendment to the

1:30:28motion.

1:30:29>> Thank you. Um, yes.

1:30:36>> Commissioner Camille,

1:30:37>> no.

1:30:39>> Commissioner Carter, yes.

1:30:42Commissioner DeWash,

1:30:44>> yes.

1:30:45>> Yes.

1:30:46>> Commissioner Ivy,

1:30:48>> yes.

1:30:49>> Commissioner Morris,

1:30:51>> no.

1:30:52>> Commissioner Williams,

1:30:53>> no.

1:30:54>> Commissioner Woods,

1:30:55>> no.

1:30:59>> Five yay votes.

1:31:00>> Forgot the chair.

1:31:01>> Oh, I'm sorry.

1:31:01>> Chair.

1:31:02>> Chair.

1:31:03>> Chair votes. Yes.

1:31:08Car six yay votes

1:31:11four no votes.

1:31:15>> Mr. Chairman, you have to announce that

1:31:16the motion is the amendment is adopted.

1:31:19>> Thank you, Madam Parliamentarian.

1:31:20>> I'm sorry, sir.

1:31:21>> No,

1:31:22>> you have to say that, Mr.

1:31:23>> No, I'm getting ready to say that now.

1:31:24>> Okay. Thank you.

1:31:25>> Thank you, Madam Parliamentarian.

1:31:28The motion is adopted.

1:31:32>> Thank you. Thank you.

1:31:35>> Point order. Yes, sir. Now do we have to

1:31:38vote on the amendment now?

1:31:41>> Amendment.

1:31:42>> You just voted on the amendment and what

1:31:44I am sitting here saying is

1:31:47the amendment as such operated more as a

1:31:50substitute.

1:31:51>> As a substitute. Okay. All right. Motion

1:31:54to adjourn. Support

1:31:57discussion. Meeting is adjourned.

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