2026-10-22 - Board of Police Commissioners

00:00Good afternoon.

00:03Like to welcome every uh one to the um

00:06today's being Thursday, October the

00:0922nd, 2026 to the board of policing uh

00:13commission meeting. And at this time, we

00:16will open up with invocation by Chaplain

00:20David Boyd.

00:23>> Mr. Chairman.

00:24>> Yes, ma'am.

00:24>> He's announced that there is not a

00:25quorum.

00:26>> Yes, ma'am.

00:27>> Thank you.

00:27>> Thank you.

00:28>> Thank you. Uh, madame parliamentarian,

00:31right now we do not have a quorum to

00:34conduct business, so we will open up.

00:37>> Okay.

00:38>> All right.

00:41Retract that. We do have a quorum.

00:43>> Recognize commissioner.

00:46>> Thank you. So, at this time, we will

00:47have the invocation led by Chaplain

00:49David Boyd.

00:55>> Okay.

00:56Father in the name of Jesus

01:00glory

01:04father

01:06we invite your pres at

01:10love

01:15and make praise right now

01:20that's here

01:22in the name of Jesus

01:24everything.

01:26>> Amen.

01:26>> Amen. Thank you very much.

01:29>> Um, now we will have the introduction of

01:32commissioners and we will turn it over

01:34to

01:36Chief Warfield

01:38through the chair. Uh, Commissioner

01:41Jones,

01:41>> present, sir.

01:42>> Commissioner Watts

01:43>> here.

01:44>> Commissioner Bowman,

01:45>> present.

01:46>> Commissioner Camille,

01:47>> present.

01:48>> Commissioner Carter,

01:50>> Commissioner Williams,

01:51>> present.

01:52>> Commissioner DeWalsh,

01:53>> present.

01:55Commissioner Ivy,

01:57Commissioner Morris, Commissioner Woods.

02:00Sir, you have a quorum.

02:01>> Thank you very much, sir. Uh, the chair

02:04will now entertain a motion for the

02:06approval of today's agenda.

02:10>> So, move.

02:10>> Thank you. Is there support?

02:12>> Support.

02:13>> Second.

02:14>> Thank you. Um, it is, is there any

02:16discussion on the motion?

02:19>> Hearing none, all in favor of the

02:20motion, please indicate by saying I.

02:22Those opposed? Thank you. The motion to

02:25approve today's agenda has been adopted.

02:29The chair will now entertain a motion to

02:32approve the minutes from the last

02:33Thursday's meeting, October the 15th.

02:36>> So moved.

02:39>> Is there support?

02:42>> Support.

02:43>> Thank you. It has been moved by

02:46Commissioner Williams and supported by

02:48Commissioner DeWalt that we approve the

02:51meeting minutes from last Thursday,

02:52October the 15, 2026. Is there any

02:55discussion on the motion?

02:57Hearing none. All in favor, please

02:59indicate by I.

03:00>> I.

03:00>> Opposed.

03:02Motion does carry. Uh we will the chair

03:05will now entertain a motion for the

03:07approval of the closed session minutes

03:10from last Thursday's meeting October the

03:1215 2026.

03:15>> So moved.

03:16>> Thank you Commissioner Williams. Is

03:18there support for the motion?

03:20>> Support.

03:21>> Thank you. It has been moved by

03:22Commissioner Williams and supported by

03:25Vice Chair Watts. Is there any

03:26discussion on the motion?

03:29>> Hearing none. All in favor of the

03:30motion, please indicate by saying I.

03:32>> I. opposed.

03:34Motion does carry. Thank you,

03:39Chief Warfield. Uh we will now have the

03:42introduction of the BOPC staff, uh chief

03:45of police and elected officials or their

03:47representatives.

03:48>> Thank you. Through the chair.

03:49>> Yes, sir.

03:50>> Attending the meeting this afternoon

03:52from the BOPC staff, Miss Ja Underwood

03:55is absent. Mr. uh Dior Matthysse, Mr.

03:58Artameisia Josh Joshua, Miss Mary

04:01Barbara, Miss Felicia Tyson, Mr. Drew

04:04Freeze, uh Dr. Francis Jackson, our

04:08parliamentarian is present. From the

04:11office of the chief investigator, senior

04:12investigator Giana Coulter is present

04:15and uh we are expecting director uh

04:18Katrina Patillo from the chief's office.

04:21Sitting in for the chief today is deputy

04:24chief Sonia Russell. We also have

04:26assistant chief uh Carrie Sloan sitting

04:30in as well. Interpreters are Stephanie

04:33Bey and Angelique Taylor, court reporter

04:36from Hansen Court Reporting. Our audio

04:39and media services coming from Mr. Jason

04:41Gant. Special recognition goes to who

04:45are attending the meeting, Miss Marie

04:47Overhaul. overall, I'm sorry,

04:49administrative assistant to State

04:50Representative Tyrone Carter and

04:52President of the Fourth Precinct

04:54Community Relations Council. Nicole

04:57Fischer, secretary for fourth precinct

04:59community relation council on Zoom. Miss

05:02um I'm sorry, Mr. JG Love,

05:05representative of city council member

05:09Rinada Miller, Ron Thomas, vice

05:12president for the Detroit Police

05:13Officers Association,

05:15former police commissioner William Davis

05:17on Zoom, and former police commissioner

05:19Ricardo Moore on Zoom. Sir, those are

05:21your attendees.

05:22>> Thank you very much, sir.

05:25>> All right. At this time, it calls for

05:27the uh BOPC officers report. I only have

05:32one thing that I would like to report

05:33out and I'll be looking for a motion. Uh

05:36we've got a meeting scheduled for the

05:39Thursday of November the 12th. That week

05:44is also the Niko conference which most

05:47of the commissioners will be attending.

05:50Chair is seeking a motion that that

05:52meeting on Thursday uh December the 12th

05:55that that meeting uh be cancelled

05:58because

05:58>> November 12th.

05:59>> What did I say? December,

06:01>> November the 12th, please excuse me.

06:03That that meeting uh be cancelled

06:05because uh we will not be here

06:09>> support.

06:10>> Thank you, Commissioner Williams.

06:11>> Point of order.

06:15>> Yes, sir.

06:16>> Um I believe it would be out of order to

06:18do that because it would violate the

06:20charter.

06:22>> Does not violate the uh charter, but

06:24somebody can correct me if I'm wrong.

06:27It does not violate the charter, but

06:29some please correct me if I'm wrong,

06:31>> Mr. Chair.

06:33>> The parliamentarian doesn't want to

06:34correct about the charter. What the

06:36parliamentarian is advising is that when

06:38someone raises a point of order, the

06:40chair needs to state whether it's well

06:42taken or not well taken.

06:43>> Okay?

06:44>> And so what given your response, Mr.

06:46Chairman, your statement would be that

06:48the point of order is not well taken.

06:50>> Okay?

06:51>> And then and then give your reasons why.

06:53>> Okay?

06:55Thank you. Do I need to do that now?

06:56>> Yes, sir.

06:57>> Okay. So, to Commissioner Bowman, uh you

07:01had asked for point of order and your

07:03point of order that uh on the motion

07:05that was made, you believe that it was

07:07not in accordance with the uh would you

07:09say charter or bylaws?

07:12>> With the charter of the city of Detroit.

07:20>> Okay. At this time, I'm going to say

07:23that and I have not looked at the

07:25charter for the city of Detroit. Does

07:28anybody uh have any information on that?

07:31>> Mr. Chair,

07:34>> Commissioner Camille.

07:35>> Thank you. I had a charter in front of

07:36me. I can quote it if you like.

07:37>> Sure.

07:38>> Thank you. Um, and so in section

07:43article 7, chapter 8, police, this is

07:47section 7-

07:49802.

07:51In the second paragraph, it does

07:53indicate that the board shall meet at

07:56the call of his chairperson, but shall

07:57meet at least once each week and may

08:00recess during Thanksgiving, Christmas,

08:02and New Year holidays.

08:07>> Thank you, Commissioner Camille. Now go

08:08back to uh what you had read about at

08:11the call of the chairperson. I missed

08:12that one.

08:14>> The board shall meet at the call of its

08:16chairperson but shall meet at least once

08:19each week and may recess during

08:21Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year

08:24holidays.

08:25And Mr. Chair, I have additional

08:27discussion.

08:28>> All right. Thank you, Commissioner

08:30Camille. I will get right back to you.

08:32Uh let me defer right now to Madame

08:35>> Mr. Chairman. Yes. Um the the charter

08:39notwithstanding

08:40the the board of police commissioners

08:42been attending this Nikole conference

08:44and it has always included cancelling

08:47the meeting because you know there's not

08:50going to be a quorum present.

08:51>> Correct.

08:52>> And so one could in fact say okay we're

08:55going to schedule the meeting and have

08:58the public show up and staff show up and

09:01nobody from the commission show up.

09:03>> Right. And so while the parliamentarian

09:06is not the lawyer and I see corp counsel

09:09is not here if if there's not going to

09:12be a quorum present there's not much

09:15point in having a meeting except for the

09:18technicality which is accurate that

09:20you're supposed to meet every week but

09:22you know you're not going to have a

09:23quorum.

09:24>> Yes ma'am.

09:24>> So the the important thing is to provide

09:27notice. Now, when corporation council

09:30gets here or if he's not here, if you

09:32want to get a legal opinion, the

09:33parliamentarian would strongly advise

09:35that. But this is not new. This has been

09:38happening. I've been here six years.

09:40>> And all the six years I've been here,

09:42the meeting has been cancelled because,

09:43you know, there's not going to be a

09:44quorum.

09:45>> Yes, ma'am. Uh, Commissioner, Vice Chair

09:47Watts.

09:48>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh while I do

09:50respect uh no one knowingly wants to

09:53violate the charter, uh I wholeheartedly

09:56understand what our parliamentarian is

09:58saying. In addition to that, everyone

10:01knows the second Thursday of each month,

10:03the border police commissioners hold

10:05their meeting in the community, which is

10:07generally from 6:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. So

10:10in addition to that, not only will you

10:12not have a quorum, that's a meeting

10:14that's in the community. And so you'd

10:16have to have notice because then you're

10:18going to have the public coming to a

10:19meeting in the evening that you will not

10:21have a quorum. So to me I think that is

10:24problematic because that's our community

10:26meeting on that day. Um so again no one

10:30wants to violate the charter but I

10:32understand what the parliamentarian is

10:33saying when most majority of the board

10:36of police commissioners will be out of

10:37town attending that conference and

10:40that's the Thursday where our community

10:42meeting falls on.

10:43>> Mr. Chair, I had additional discussion.

10:46>> Thank Thank you, Vice Chair Watts. Hold

10:48on one second. Uh, Commissioner Bowman.

10:51>> Yeah. Um, what I was going to say is

10:54that the um fact that we will not be

10:58present on Thursday

11:02the um 12th in November is not um

11:06pertinent to whether or not we can meet

11:09in that week in November. I move that we

11:12postpone

11:14the meeting um that it would normally

11:17take place on Thursday, November 12th to

11:20be held at 400 p.m. on Friday the 13th

11:25>> second

11:26>> of November.

11:31We do have a motion on the floor uh

11:33looking to change the meeting from

11:35Thursday uh November the 12th to Friday,

11:40November the 13th at 4:30. Is there any

11:43discussion on the motion?

11:45>> Mr. Chair, discussion.

11:46>> What is the discussion? Commissioner.

11:48>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um I am in support

11:51of having the meeting on Friday if that

11:53would work. Um, I do also just want to

11:56share that based on my understanding of

11:58the Niko schedule, um, there are some

12:01commissioners that, at least myself for

12:04sure, that would be back by that

12:06Thursday evening. Um, and I know that

12:09there are some commissioners that are

12:11not going. And so I would like for staff

12:13to make an assessment of based on the

12:15travel arrangements, how many actually

12:18would be here by Thursday evening. um

12:21understanding that that would make for a

12:23busy day. Um certainly I do agree that

12:26the board has traditionally canled

12:29during the week of the Nicole

12:30conference, but in light of the language

12:31of the charter, um I think that we

12:34should make all efforts whether having

12:36it on Thursday with low participation or

12:40having it on Friday. Uh we should make

12:42all effort to follow the charter and

12:44have a meeting during that week.

12:47>> Thank you, Commissioner Camille.

12:49Commissioner Watts, Vice Chair Watts.

12:50>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, again, no one

12:53willingly wants to violate the charter.

12:55These meetings are very important. I do

12:58think it would still would not be um

13:02prudent for the public who attends our

13:04meeting to try to have it on a Thursday

13:07when some of our flights are arriving,

13:09leaving uh where we're going to be in

13:11Kentucky at 3 p.m. Getting back here.

13:14You never know. Planes could be delayed,

13:15flights can be delayed. We don't even

13:17know what the weather would be. Now,

13:19while I'm not opposed to having the

13:21meeting on a different day, I do not

13:23think it's responsible for the public to

13:25try to still hold this meeting where a

13:28lot of commissioners are coming back on

13:29various times that day. Some are not

13:32getting back to after 5:00 p.m. to have

13:34the public try to attend a community

13:36meeting where anything can happen. So

13:39again, I am opposed to trying to host

13:41that meeting for that very reason on the

13:44same day that most of us are traveling

13:46back in town and we have no control on

13:49getting back here on time as stated by

13:51the airlines. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

13:53>> Thank you, Vice Chair. Um to the

13:55parliamentarian question, I know you've

13:59got institutional knowledge about these

14:01conference. I'm sorry to the

14:03parliamentarian and thank you for

14:04sharing your institutional knowledge for

14:06the time that you've been here. When the

14:08meetings have been postponed or

14:10cancelled rather during the Niko

14:13conference, has anything uh come up as

14:17in terms of violation of the charter?

14:20>> Not while I've been parliamentarian uh

14:22Mr. chairman and the parliament chairman

14:24also point out that because this is the

14:28second meeting of the month where

14:30traditionally is in the community there

14:32has always been since I've been

14:34parliamentarian

14:36u deliberate effort to limit what

14:39happens at that meeting to the focus on

14:41the community. So, as a general rule,

14:44you're not handling

14:46um there no closed sessions because

14:48you're not going to have the public

14:50running in and out and and important

14:53reports have always been delayed to the

14:56the next meeting so that the focus be on

14:58the community. Now, all that

15:00withstanding

15:02um the the the knowledge that it is in

15:05fact a violation of the charter because

15:07you're supposed to meet every week, the

15:10parliamentarian would still point out

15:12that perhaps getting a legal opinion

15:16might be prudent. Um so that we legally

15:20you legally know how it can be handled.

15:24Speaking from a parliamentary point of

15:26view, if you know you're not going to

15:28have a quorum,

15:31it would be irresponsible

15:33to give notice of a meeting that you're

15:3699% sure is not going to happen. That's

15:39just common sense. Mhm.

15:41>> Uh and and and because it is the second

15:44week where you traditionally meet in the

15:47community,

15:48um it it it's a disservice to the

15:50community to give the impression that

15:52that meeting is going to occur as it

15:54traditionally does. Now,

15:57>> I'm not speaking legally.

15:58>> Sure. Sure.

15:59>> I'm not a lawyer,

16:01>> but as the parliamentarian, if you know

16:03the meeting's not going to occur to

16:05schedule a meeting that you know you I'm

16:08going to be here and nobody else,

16:09>> right? I don't even think that

16:11Warfield's going to show up. He said

16:12there not going to be a court on my

16:16So I I I think that getting legal opin

16:18You have time to get a legal opinion.

16:21>> Understood,

16:23>> Mr. Chair.

16:24>> Uh, Commissioner Bowman.

16:26>> Um, yes. I just um wanted to kind of um

16:30if don't object um ask that we to get a

16:33temperature here of the situation. Um,

16:37how many commissioners have flights with

16:39an arrival time later than 5:30 p.m. on

16:42Thursday?

16:43>> I believe I know it's a late flight.

16:48>> Okay.

16:50>> I'm not

16:52>> It does seem like a significant number

16:54could make it to a 6:30 meeting,

16:59>> but again, we could just move it to

17:01Friday.

17:03There's a motion.

17:05>> Yeah, Commissioner Camille has her hand

17:06up. We still have discussion going.

17:08Commissioner Camille.

17:09>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um the only other

17:11thing I wanted to add was that um since

17:13the focus of our community meetings are

17:16on the public, I believe according to

17:18parliamentarian procedures, we can still

17:20take public comment if we even if we

17:22don't have a quorum. Um and I'll just

17:24reiterate that I am um

17:28I do agree that um scheduling on Friday

17:31will be fine as well.

17:35Any other discussion on the motion?

17:39Uh hearing none. Uh all in favor of the

17:42motion, please indicate by raising your

17:43hand.

17:44>> Mr. Chairman, it would be important to

17:45make sure the commissioners know which

17:46motion they're voting on.

17:47>> Uh right now we are voting on the uh

17:49subsequent motion which was dealing with

17:52uh was it changing the uh the date?

17:55>> Friday.

17:55>> Am I correct?

17:56>> Friday at 400 p.m.

17:57>> Yes, ma'am.

17:58>> Thank you.

17:59>> Thank you, Madam Parliamentarian. So, at

18:02this time, all in favor of the motion,

18:04please indicate by raising your hands.

18:09We've got two that are in favor. All

18:10against the motion, please indicate by

18:12raising your hands.

18:18The motion dies.

18:22>> Thank you.

18:25So now, uh, Madam Parliamentary, you can

18:27correct me if I'm wrong. We can go back

18:28to the original motion. Is that correct?

18:31And the original motion uh was to cancel

18:34the uh meeting on Thursday, November the

18:3712th.

18:39Uh has that was there support on that

18:41motion?

18:42>> Support

18:44has it been seconded?

18:50>> Okay, it doesn't.

18:52Is there is there a second for the

18:54motion?

18:57>> A second.

18:58>> Okay, thank you. So, we do have a motion

19:01that's been uh supported and seconded.

19:04Is there any discussion on that motion?

19:05>> Discussion.

19:07>> Commissioner Bowman,

19:08>> I move that this vote be postponed

19:11pending a legal opinion.

19:15>> Second.

19:16>> Pending legal opinion.

19:20Uh, okay. That is a motion that was made

19:23by Commissioner Bowman and supported by

19:26Commissioner uh I'm sorry, Camille. I

19:29had to look down. I'm sorry,

19:30Commissioner.

19:31>> Is there any discussion on that motion?

19:34Hearing none. All in favor of the

19:35motion, please indicate by raising your

19:37hands. One,

19:40two. All against the motion, please

19:43indicate by raising your hands. One,

19:46two, three, four, five. Motion dies for

19:49lack of support.

19:54It's lost.

19:55>> It's lost. Okay. I'm sorry. Thank you,

19:57madam parliamentarian. It's lost. So,

20:00now we'll go back to the original motion

20:02which is cancelling the uh board of

20:07police commissioners meeting for

20:08Thursday, November the 12th.

20:12And that motion. Do we need to get

20:13support and second again, madam

20:15parliamentarian?

20:17>> Okay. Thank you. So all in favor of that

20:20motion, please indicate by raising your

20:23hands.

20:26One, two,

20:29three, four.

20:32All oppose.

20:37So the motion

20:39carries. Thank you. We will look to have

20:42the meeting for November the 12th

20:45council. That is a community meeting.

20:47So, we will look to get that meeting

20:49cancelled.

20:52Commissioner Bowman,

20:53>> um just um a bit of information. I will

20:57be making a complaint with the inspector

20:58general.

21:01>> Okay.

21:03Anything else?

21:05Thank you, commissioners. We will now

21:08move on to the oral communications and

21:11public comments. Please note that each

21:13speaker will be allowed two minutes.

21:16Inappropriate language and comments may

21:18delay broadcast and video post. Please

21:21help protect your privacy during this

21:24public meeting. While speaking, do not

21:28state your address or any phone numbers.

21:31So, at this time, can we first uh have

21:34the first speaker come up

21:38>> in the room? The first speaker would be

21:40Lisa Davis.

21:43>> Miss Davis.

21:45You may come forward there to the mic.

21:58>> Good afternoon, ma'am. You may be heard.

22:00>> Good afternoon. I'm speaking on behalf

22:02of my aunt, Artist K. I wanted to read

22:05something that um was written.

22:10So, it says, "A plea for justice for

22:12Lawrence Harvey Morris Jr.

22:15um is this letter is from their the

22:18parents of uh Lawrence Jr. We are

22:22Lawrence Harvey Morris senior and artist

22:25Morris the grieving parents of Lawrence

22:27Harvey Morris Jr. a 35-year-old working

22:30man loving father

22:33of two children and a beloved son.

22:37Our son was a working man with a future

22:39ahead of him. He was a father whose

22:42children deserve the opportunity to

22:44continue growing up with uh him in their

22:46lives.

22:48Um he his life was taken by gun violence

22:52and the pain of losing him is something

22:54no parent should ever have to

22:56experience. Yet, in addition to the

22:58devastating loss of our son, we have

23:00been left with serious questions and

23:02concerns about the investigation, the

23:05testimony presented at trial and the

23:08handling of p uh of the prosecution.

23:12The individual identified in the case um

23:15his name was Dart Dartanian Woodford. He

23:19was tried um he was found not guilty,

23:22but he lied on the stand twice. Um the

23:28prosecutor knew it and didn't

23:31intend on doing anything about it. Um

23:34one of their greatest concerns involves

23:37the surveillance cameras in the area in

23:41which he was killed. The city of Detroit

23:43told them that the cameras, I guess it

23:45was only one camera working or

23:47something. Um and they still haven't

23:51been given any resolve as to what's

23:53going on.

23:55Um they believe that uh

24:03>> Okay. We also Oh, is it two minutes

24:06already?

24:07>> Uh yes, ma'am.

24:08>> Okay. Well, again, they just want to get

24:11some kind of resolve with the

24:12prosecution and they need to know which

24:15way to go.

24:18>> Thank you. Uh

24:20Corporal Battersby, did you

24:25Thank you. Thank you. I was just making

24:28sure.

24:29Next speaker, please.

24:31>> I have Sandra Kendall

24:35>> in the room.

24:36>> Miss Kendall, are you here?

24:39>> Good afternoon, ma'am.

24:41>> Hey, how are you?

24:42>> Good. How are you?

24:43>> How is everybody? Thank you for allowing

24:46me to speak.

24:46>> Yes, ma'am.

24:47>> I'm a mother plead for justice

24:49accountability for my son that was

24:52murdered in the Martin Luther King.

24:53October 27, 2005. My son was 23 years

24:57old. He had his whole life in front of

24:58him. It would have been five years. He

25:00belonged to Lua Local 1191 as a labor.

25:04He had a lot of things um in life to

25:08accomplish. Um I want to let y'all know

25:11my son's murder is not only a tragic

25:14effect in the Martin Luther King Holmes

25:15community. According to information,

25:17there's been over 15 unsolved murders

25:19within the last 10 years. when so many

25:22murders reported remain unsolved in the

25:24same community over such long period. I

25:27am especially concerned about reports of

25:29security cameras in and outside the

25:31premises that's not functioning um

25:34properly

25:36and for me to go to court to over seven

25:40times they had the people let them go

25:43because it wasn't enough to bound over

25:46for me to actually sit in the court and

25:48witness these guys run up and murder my

25:51son and then listen to all the tapes

25:54that they said in the in the jail call

25:57how they're paying somebody and they

25:59know what to do in court. Where is the

26:02help for me to get these people off the

26:05street? That's to murder my son. So now

26:08I just want to let y'all know I'm

26:10contacting murder I mean mayor the mayor

26:14the corporate office Fox 2 news the

26:17prosecutor office the attorney grievance

26:20the chief investigator the Detroit

26:23police department attorney general

26:25office WDIV Charlie uh leuff lieutenant

26:29governor whoever I have to contact I

26:33will I send letters out I have a four

26:36page letter I only got two minutes mean

26:38two minutes to read it. So therefore, I

26:41didn't sent this all out to these people

26:43and I have much more. I will not stop

26:46until I get these people off the street

26:49that has taken my baby son away for no

26:52apparent reason. Where's the justice

26:55with Detroit police?

26:58>> Thank you.

26:58>> Thank you, ma'am.

27:01>> Next speaker, please. It is not directed

27:04to my

27:06>> Miss Charita Williams

27:20until after.

27:21>> Hello through the chair. Um

27:23first of all my heart go off to you

27:25ma'am concerning your son. anyone who

27:27lose a loved one. Um, I have empathy for

27:30that. But, um, go with retain a great

27:34lawyer,

27:34>> ma'am. Through the chair.

27:35>> Through Oh, I forgot. Through the chair.

27:37Okay, let's talk about what's really

27:39going on. Okay. You all been seeing

27:41what's going on in the news. So, as I've

27:44been coming here for the last four

27:45years, but the last 18 months, I've been

27:49complaining about non-Americans on the

27:52Detroit Police Department using illegal

27:54names, fake names in exoffenders. So, I

27:58live four blocks from the third. I'm

28:00constantly speaking about the man to

28:02rape me that's on the fourth. So, like I

28:06said, he didn't been moved four times.

28:09and

28:12her mother.

28:18At the end of the day, these are facts.

28:21I'm not going to come up here and be

28:22disrespectful. Whatever you done in your

28:25personal life, that's your personal

28:26life. But when you took an oath and you

28:28disrespect that, you need to be held

28:30accountable for all the illegal

28:33activities that's going on in this city.

28:35Period.

28:37It's unacceptable when this woman did

28:41all this to me

28:43and live right underneath me and they

28:45continue to cover up. But like I said,

28:47the baddest attorney in this country is

28:49going to be representing Miss Williams.

28:51At the end of the day, it's going to be

28:53consequences because this shouldn't have

28:56never took place. Her name is not even

28:58in a database. Her real name, she used

29:02the alias and she's on the force in it.

29:05People make it make sense. You walked

29:07across the stage either at Grey Grace or

29:09the other church. You are a Detroit

29:11Police Department. You signed off on

29:13that weapon in the alias name. Make that

29:16make sense. These are facts. I'm not

29:19making up anything I have not been

29:20speaking about. Have a great day.

29:23>> Thank you, ma'am. Next speaker, please.

29:25>> Mr. Cunningham.

29:42Good afternoon, sir.

29:44>> Hello, brother. Mr. Chair, 3134449114.

29:503134449114.

29:53313 4449114.

29:55That number was made so you can remember

29:56it. Shouting out Danny again for getting

29:59my vehicle out of the shop. It was

30:01$3,600. I ended up paying $1,000.

30:05And I've been giving out bus tickets out

30:07in the community, east, west, north, and

30:09south. You pray for me, I pray for you.

30:12I'm talking to you under the sound of my

30:14voice. The definition of insanity is

30:16doing the same thing over and over

30:17again, expecting a new or different

30:19result. I I don't attend any church and

30:22probably never will again unless it's

30:23like a meeting or something. But I do

30:25pray. I do uh uh read my word etc. And I

30:29believe prayer is very powerful and an

30:32observation. I I the prayer has kept me

30:34strengthened and I do believe um that as

30:38a city I remember back in the day

30:40Evangel under pastor Bogle they used to

30:42have uh uh midnight prayer also at Word

30:46of Faith. My other church I was a part

30:47of they had prayer. So my point is that

30:51under the sound of my voice, those

30:52listening daily, pray for our officers,

30:56pray for our youth, pray for our uh

30:59parents. There's too much killing.

31:01There's too much going on. And the

31:04fervent, effectual prayers of the

31:05righteous of much folks aren't praying.

31:08Notice, look around. Notice, look

31:10around, they're not praying. So why not

31:12do something a little different and

31:14start praying? And I do pray in the Holy

31:16Spirit. It's not voodoo. Uh, I don't

31:18know voodoo. I know it's touch not God's

31:20anointed. Neither his servants

31:22Cunningham no harm. I don't know voodoo.

31:25And this is this armband which I've had

31:27comments online. This is just like the

31:30currency that they used to use shells

31:32seashells in Africa. It's just nothing

31:35voodoo about it. All I know is the Holy

31:37Spirit and touch not. That's what I

31:39know. And let's pray for our leadership.

31:42pray for all those that are in authority

31:44that we might lead a quiet and peaceable

31:46life. Thank you for your time. Thank

31:50you.

31:51>> Thank you, sir.

31:53>> Uh, next speaker, please.

31:54>> Minister Eric Blunt.

32:01>> Good afternoon, Minister Blunt.

32:03>> Good afternoon, board and those under

32:05the sound of my voice. I'm Minister Eric

32:07Blunt from Sacred Heart Catholic Church

32:09right here in Detroit. Uh, as people

32:12talk about unsolved murders, we must

32:14talk about

32:16the unsolved or unresolved murders

32:19perpetrated by the Detroit Police

32:21Department.

32:23>> For for far too long,

32:26reasonable people have said something

32:28other than the truth in the murder of

32:31Alonzo Lee Perkins, and the fact that

32:34the bodywn camera footage was delayed

32:36for four months

32:38says it all. Uh, Commissioner Camille, I

32:42thank you for your kind and soft words

32:44in the interview you took time out to

32:47make this week about um what really

32:51amounted to a lie. Somebody lied to us

32:54about why OCI could not see the body

32:57worn camera footage.

33:00It was just way way too much. So somehow

33:04it was perpetrated. It was passed on. it

33:08was accepted.

33:10But then last week, Comrade Mallet kind

33:13of backtracked and said, "Well, I have a

33:15legal opinion and it's okay to see it."

33:18But then the reporters got involved and

33:21the reporters contradicted everything

33:23that people had said in this meeting.

33:25The FBI said, "No, we had no part of OCI

33:30not seeing that body warrant camera

33:31footage." They went to the Michigan

33:33State Police and they said, "No, we had

33:35no part in preventing OCI from seeing

33:38that body wararm camera footage." So,

33:41Commissioner Camille was very soft in

33:43her words. But it was really a lie

33:44perpetrated by so many people at so many

33:47levels. And I'm glad finally it comes

33:49out, but still Alonzo Lee Perkins for

33:54all accounts was murdered. And yet it

33:56took four months to see the body warn

33:58camera footage

34:01uh for Niko. All this talk just cancel

34:03your your your trip to Nico. Nico's

34:07number one principle is independence.

34:10And for the past 12 years, I've seen

34:12virtually no independence of this board.

34:14So why why waste our money and and your

34:18time?

34:19>> Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you,

34:20Minister Blunt.

34:24Mother Bernice.

34:27Mother

34:27>> Mother Smith.

34:49>> Why y'all got this so far away?

34:59Good afternoon to my

35:01police department and to my committee.

35:05>> Good afternoon.

35:07>> You know, we we're living in a sad state

35:10of uh situation now.

35:13Detroit is in a Let me look see what I

35:17have my notes. Detroit is in a

35:20demoralized state today. I have watched

35:23more crime run rapidly today.

35:28Oh, I thought you was coming here to

35:30show me up.

35:34There is need for more voices that will

35:37be raised with concerns.

35:42The community is with res uh with the

35:44residents will be involved should be

35:46involved

35:48and we cannot allow crime to continue to

35:52perpetrate our city

35:56to also when are the board when the

35:59board is going to protect

36:02our our children that's what I want let

36:04let me forget this I don't need that

36:07what I want to say is today we have

36:10crime running rapid

36:13in our city. I get tired of looking at

36:16it on TV every 11:00 at night and doing

36:2012:00 in the day.

36:23We have to do something. Parents, I

36:26address you right now. Your children has

36:30to be under control. I used to go

36:33downtown and sit on Monroe and I would

36:35see what's going on at night after 7

36:39o'clock up until 11 11 o'clock and I saw

36:41how the kids were running rapidly up and

36:45down the street. I even had to stop some

36:47of them to pull their pants up and they

36:49tell me yes grandmama but the fact is we

36:53have to take control of our children.

36:56We are not paying attention to what

36:58they're doing. Half of us don't know

37:00where they're going at night and they

37:03just ripping and running the streets. I

37:05know what I'm talking about because I

37:07see it every night on TV where the crime

37:11is.

37:13>> Time up.

37:14>> How you get up here?

37:17Thank you very much for your time.

37:19>> Thanks, baby.

37:27>> Next speaker, please. I'm sorry.

37:30>> Next speaker, please.

37:31>> We're moving to Zoom. We have six

37:33callers in Zoom. The first one is Zoom

37:37user.

37:40>> Zoom. Uh Zoom user, are you there?

37:43>> Loud and clear.

37:45>> May I be?

37:45>> You may be heard. Yes.

37:48>> So, I want to start off I want to start

37:49off by saying Kenneth Bradley uh his

37:51mother requested a meeting with the

37:53chief of police. Her son was killed uh

37:55February 28th, 2021. It's been five long

37:58years. She has not got any answers from

37:59any justice from Detroit Police

38:01Department. I sent an email October

38:0319th. As of today, there has been no

38:05response. Uh there have been a couple

38:08there have been a couple there have been

38:09a couple mothers today who have called

38:11who have come in and said about their

38:12children's uh murder and things like

38:14that. I think that the murdered uh

38:17people who have been lost their lives to

38:18gun violence or just been murdered in

38:19the city of Detroit deserve answers.

38:21There was a press conference held for

38:22Alonzo Lee Perkins recently. uh should

38:24have been a joint mention of uh Tracy

38:26Allen who also was incorrectly shot by

38:28Detroit police officers. Um and those

38:31neither one of those officers seem to be

38:32fired. Zachary Melvin is working on

38:34death duty. He still has his job. He's

38:35on a second chance agreement perpetrated

38:37by uh Assistant Chief Fisure who's

38:40extremely racist allegedly.

38:43Um also speaking of body cam footage, is

38:45there any update to the complaint I

38:47filed into Sergeant Michael Jackson S314

38:50about my legal phone seizure uh in my

38:52detainment? I want to know because I

38:54requested that footage and I have to sue

38:56to get the footage. The footage is not

38:57being released. Also, when it comes to

38:59the FBI, it seems like somebody uh

39:02between the border police commissioners

39:03and Detroit Police Department leadership

39:05specifically has been lying on the name

39:07of the Federal Bureau of Investigations

39:09and the Michigan State Police because

39:10neither one of those entities have

39:12agreed to what has been alleged by this

39:14board and Conrad Mallet and others. I

39:17think that there are a lot of unanswered

39:19questions that civilians have. We come

39:21here all the time to ask for

39:22transparency. We ask for investigations

39:24officers and we get met with people like

39:26Daryl Woods who tell us, "Oh, we got

39:28confidence in this. We got faith in

39:29that." And he's a convicted felon. I

39:31hope his jail cell is still warm because

39:33I plan to put him right back in it

39:34because he is a convicted felon who

39:36killed somebody, ran away, and pretends

39:39to be a person who is innocent and uh

39:42has been perpetrated like he hasn't

39:44been. You killed somebody, Darl Woods,

39:46and you're going back to prison as soon

39:47as I can put you there. Thank you.

39:49>> Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

39:52>> Next speaker is Tana.

39:57>> Miss Tana, are you there?

40:01>> Yes. Can you hear me?

40:02>> Oh, yes, we can. You may be heard.

40:05>> Okay. Do I got to push play to start the

40:07minutes or Okay. Hi, greetings. This is

40:10Tana. Um I am letting you all know I

40:14have called upon divine judgment against

40:16you all because we the people are not

40:19getting justice and I have been having

40:22many dreams on how to get justice is

40:25through the people because we are the

40:27ones who

40:29you are all to service and I have had

40:33very hard times here in Detroit. Um,

40:36three police officers beat on me, took

40:38my truck. Um, all because I represent

40:42the most high and sovereign God, not a

40:46citizen. And

40:48I just want y'all to know that's why I

40:50called upon and judgment, divine

40:53judgment on y'all because I declare I

40:56declare and decree no one has authority

40:59over me or the rights to the God's

41:01children on this land. This is a free

41:02land and you all need to follow

41:05executive orders of 13813 that was given

41:09on December 20th, 2017 as well as the

41:12executive orders to cease to decease and

41:16cease and desist as well as I have

41:19noticed that when I went and came to one

41:22of these hearings before with Mark Mike

41:24Dugen or Mark Mike Dugen, he uh promised

41:27me a home because my home was taken from

41:29me at that time because I was in jail

41:32for eight months for falsely accusing

41:35me. And I have eight children. And if

41:37you go on Facebook, all types of

41:40different websites, they have me

41:42plastered like I'm just this criminal.

41:44And I am a good mother. I am a great

41:47mother. And I have called upon divine

41:50judgment on you all because we know

41:52y'all corrupt. We the people need to

41:53stick together and come together and end

41:55this corruption because y'all all are

41:57acting upon act acting as judges, acting

42:00as police officers. You have no legal

42:03right to enforce your illegal laws upon

42:05us and I want you to cease and desist

42:08now.

42:09>> Thank you, ma'am.

42:11Next speaker, please.

42:13>> Next speaker is former Commissioner

42:14William Davis.

42:18>> Uh, good afternoon. Can I be heard?

42:20>> Yes, you may, sir.

42:22Okay. I was just wondering, had y'all

42:24explored the possibility it happened uh

42:26in the community meeting on the third

42:28Thursday of the month? Uh since the

42:31fourth Thursday is going to be

42:33Thanksgiving and not no meeting. Uh also

42:36I I think it should be greater effort to

42:38make sure that people feel safe voting.

42:42Um you know like say I was on the board

42:45in 2020 and things got chaotic then uh

42:48because what was going on, you know. So

42:51hopefully we want to make sure everybody

42:52feels safe voting. Want to make sure

42:54that Detroit is a more welcoming city.

42:57Make sure that we do more to help each

42:59other.

43:01>> And I don't have nothing else to say.

43:03Y'all have a great day.

43:05>> Thank you, Commissioner Davis. Next

43:06speaker, please.

43:08>> Next speaker is Den L.

43:13>> Good afternoon, honorable body. My name

43:15is Denise Li. Uh, I just want to

43:18encourage everyone to make sure they do

43:20get out and vote because this is very

43:22important for all of our citizens. I

43:25want to take an opportunity to thank

43:27Commissioner Watts. I'm a District 5

43:29resident. I just want to take the

43:31opportunity to thank Commissioner Watts

43:34for for always showing up and being out

43:36here for district five and to

43:40acknowledge and thank the 10th precinct

43:42that they have ped up uh well picked up

43:46on their ride throughs because we were

43:49having some problems in this area and

43:52they have become uh we took them to the

43:55commander Commander Rodriguez and we see

43:58the police riding through more often

44:00now. Visibility is a big deterrent in

44:04crime. So, I'd like to thank them and to

44:07thank Commissioner Watson, all of you

44:09for what you do. Thank you.

44:11>> Thank you, ma'am. Next speaker, please.

44:14>> Next speaker is Michelle,

44:19>> Michelle, are you there?

44:25>> Miss Michelle, are you there?

44:27>> We're waiting for Michelle to unmute.

44:29>> Okay.

44:32Yes. Can you hear me?

44:33>> Uh, yes. You may be heard.

44:36>> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I wanted to

44:38make a comment. First of all, I would

44:40like to say um with a lot of the gun

44:43violence and one thing I would the

44:45police is dealing with a lot. There is

44:47so I've never there's so much gun

44:49violence. But I want as the uh speaker

44:51was speaking before me, what people need

44:53to realize is that the United States

44:56Justice Department under this

44:57administration cut $800 million in

45:01community violence prevention. So that

45:03was in 48 states, 530 organizations. So

45:07the reason there has also been a there

45:09has been a lot of money lost dealing

45:11with violence as we I was listening to

45:13mother Bernice as we deal with a lot of

45:16violence now. And I do want to thank the

45:19police department for um they have a lot

45:22on their hands with it is a it's a

45:24dangerous job and they have a lot on

45:26their hands because they never know

45:27where bullet is going to and I'm always

45:29in support where bullet is going to be.

45:31Now I do want to segue into Alonzo

45:34watching a video the other day because

45:36as I made comments about

45:39um young people, you know, Chief

45:41Bettison gave that warning not to bring

45:43guns. Now, however, at this after seeing

45:45this video with the officer uh running

45:48after him, calling him a be shooting

45:50him, what is going to I just curious

45:53with that situation because I'm sure he

45:55did not follow protocol with that. He

45:57should have just let him go and catch

45:58him on the other side, but to to shoot

46:00him like that, um that's that's just my

46:03concern in terms of protocol. We do try

46:05to speak to young people with that

46:07warning. Bettison did put out a warning

46:08about that, but on the flip side, the

46:10officer did not follow that protocol.

46:12But I do want to let the Detroit police

46:14know I see the work that you two are

46:16doing on the other side for the officers

46:18that are putting their lives on the line

46:20every day. So that's my uh comment.

46:22>> Thank you.

46:22>> Thank you very much, ma'am. Next

46:24speaker, please.

46:26>> Miss Tanya Jackson.

46:29>> Good afternoon. Can I be heard?

46:30>> Yes, you may.

46:33>> Through the chair to Mr. Warfield, I

46:35filed a complaint with your office back

46:37in September. I spoke with Investigator

46:39White. Um, I haven't heard anything else

46:42from her. I try to reach out to her

46:45email, phone calls. I came up there.

46:49She's not replying or anything. I want

46:52to know what's the update with my

46:53complaint. And also, it makes a lot of

46:56sense to me as I've been coming speaking

46:58on Officer Dion Dawson badge number 389,

47:01a woman beater. It makes a lot of sense

47:05why the board went to bat for him. He

47:09assaulted me. This man who swore under

47:12oath to protect and serve to shoot me in

47:16the head with his service gun.

47:19It makes a lot of sense why the officer

47:21that shot Alonzo is still on death duty.

47:25It makes a lot of sense why the officer

47:27that shot Tracy Allen is still on the

47:29force because y'all go to bat for them.

47:31DPD have great officers. They have some

47:34great officers. that y'all don't hold

47:37these bad officers accountable. What is

47:39it going to take? Is Dion going to have

47:41to pull what the officer did to Alonzo?

47:44If he ever come across me, would y'all

47:46justify that? And y'all know I've been

47:48saying what this man did to me. What

47:50this man kid did to me? His mama just

47:53approached me at the market a couple of

47:55days ago. Like y'all trying to say it's

47:57not him. He was removed. He have people

47:59doing his work and it's falling back on

48:01him. It don't make no sense that y'all

48:04sit there and listen to the same stuff.

48:06It don't make no sense that y'all got so

48:09much confident in Chief Todd Bettison, a

48:12very disrespectful man when all y'all

48:14sat up there and heard how he had that

48:16man disrespect me. It don't make sense.

48:19It don't make sense at all that all this

48:21stuff that's being done to these black

48:22men and black women is being justified.

48:25Y'all sitting them down still paying

48:27them for doing bad jobs.

48:29>> Everybody just need to go. We need a new

48:31leadership.

48:34>> Thank you, ma'am. Next speaker, please.

48:36>> This is the last speaker in Zoom and

48:38then we have one more in the room and it

48:41just says Zoom user.

48:43>> Zoom user, are you there?

48:47>> I am here, chair. Thank you for having

48:50me. Thank you. Um, new secretary, you're

48:52doing real good. Um, I would like to say

48:55district 7 Jamaima also Littlefield

48:57eaten block club president

49:00along with the weed collaborative

49:02member. I would like to say I really

49:05like how you all have been coming

49:07together these last few weeks, maybe a

49:09month, coming together as um a team

49:13working together getting things done.

49:16I'm also hoping that y'all are coming

49:18together to try to get the uh camera

49:21footage back. Um, that's a that's a

49:24great tool to have

49:27to protect, you know, our the citizens

49:30as well as the police by seeing video

49:33footage in real time. So, I'm hoping

49:36that you all are working together to get

49:38this back. We need that tool. Um, I

49:42can't stress it enough. So, I'm hope you

49:44all working on that. And that's all I

49:46have to say. Continue to keep up the

49:47good work. Y'all have a nice day after

49:49y'all get done.

49:52Thank you, ma'am.

49:55>> Last public comment. Artist Morris.

50:04>> Good afternoon.

50:05>> Good afternoon. Thank y'all for um

50:07hearing me today. I was I was always

50:11told to keep coming to this meeting, but

50:13this is my first time coming. My son was

50:15murdered. He the killer that killed him

50:19took a jury trial. Now I was with my son

50:23James Kho the prosecutor. I'm trying to

50:25find out who could help me. Sergeant

50:29Flanders. He in this building. I've been

50:32calling him and everything. He he got

50:35the testimony of the mama. The mama was

50:38never there. The boy got on the stand

50:40and said the mama was there that he

50:43killed my son because my son choked his

50:46mother. It's a whole witness. The mother

50:47was there and what's in there. And I'm

50:50just trying to find out. I'm sorry for

50:52my voice. I'm trying to find who can

50:55help me. I'm not going nowhere until I

51:00get justice for my son, Lawrence Morris.

51:03He was with me, killed for no reason.

51:07And I need help. I know there's some

51:09good cops out here. Please, somebody

51:12give me some resource. Tell me

51:14something. Sergeant Flanders got the

51:17video of the mama. It was 16 cameras,

51:22not one camera. Green light. That's a

51:24joke.

51:26So, I'm just asking.

51:29Duh. Woods told me to come to this meet.

51:32I never been here. I need help. I need

51:36some type of resource. Please, I'm

51:39begging y'all. This is y'all job or

51:42whatever. Whoever in this room could

51:45help me. Mr. Boy, I heard that you the

51:48police commissioner in my in my

51:50district. I need to contact. We need

51:53some I need help. Please help me.

52:06>> Thank you, ma'am.

52:07>> Thank you.

52:09Uh,

52:11>> Deputy Chief Russell,

52:15>> uh, through the chair, we do have

52:16somebody from homicide who could come

52:18down and assist the citizen, so we'll

52:20have them come down right now.

52:21>> Thank you.

52:23>> Thank you. Thank you, Deputy Chief and

52:27uh, Commissioner Bulma, you had your

52:29hand up and I said I would recognize you

52:32after the comments.

52:33>> Thank you very much. Um, I've I've heard

52:35now um of at least um three cases um

52:39today of

52:42people um mentioning

52:44there being um cameras that from the

52:48context of the conversation sound like

52:51they were the responsibility of the city

52:53of Detroit

52:55not being on or not functioning or being

52:58people being told anyway that they there

53:01was no content available on those

53:03cameras. And I guess what I'm wondering,

53:07I mean, we're civilian oversight.

53:08Normally, we're dealing with complaints

53:09against individuals

53:12um who can be identified. In this case,

53:15we have, it's not quite so clear, but it

53:18seems like there is someone accountable

53:20for making sure that um cameras such as

53:25greenlight cameras and other cityowned

53:28cameras are working properly.

53:31Um

53:33who may I ask and I don't know if the

53:35chief has an answer if there's another

53:37official um within the department that

53:39can answer exactly who's responsible for

53:42Thank you. who's responsible for um

53:46monitoring those cameras and verifying

53:50the existence of video or verifying the

53:53working of those cameras.

53:57Yes, Deputy Chief

54:00>> through the chair. Uh it really just

54:01depends on the circumstances. Uh just

54:03because someone has a project green

54:06light camera, the cameras, uh a lot goes

54:08into that. There's an assessment that's

54:10done as far as clamor replacement, it

54:12depends on the number of cameras. Um we

54:15also have other cameras that's through

54:16anou with different entities throughout

54:19the city. So just because it may be

54:21video available through project

54:22greenlight, it depends on what the

54:25placement of those cameras are. Uh there

54:27is an audit check that is done for

54:29project greenlight locations uh every

54:31day uh through the crime intelligence

54:33unit. Those are speak those are

54:35generally speaking only for project

54:37greenlight locations. This does not

54:38include city assets. Uh does not include

54:41private own cameras. This does not

54:43include ring video. So it really just

54:45depends upon the circumstances of what

54:48we're talking about. um if we had

54:50cameras in view, were they out of view?

54:52Did it focus on the alley? So, there's a

54:54lot that goes into it.

54:56>> Um through the chair.

54:58>> Yes, sir.

54:58>> Yeah. Um, could I have a um, you know,

55:03in in fact every board member should

55:05probably have a copy of something

55:07identifying which circumstances

55:10are

55:12um, attributed

55:14to which part of the department or part

55:17of the city government so that we have a

55:19sense of where to direct people when

55:22they have questions about these matters.

55:25>> So, uh, through the chair. Yes, ma'am.

55:27as far as direct incences would have had

55:29come, it will be based upon whoever the

55:31investigative entity is for that

55:33department. So if there was an issue,

55:34let's say it was a non-fatal shooting

55:36for example, uh whatever precinct that

55:38occurred in, that will be up to that

55:40investigative entity to share that

55:42information with them. So they had they

55:44will have an officer in charge of that

55:46case who will be available to discuss

55:48different things as far as what the case

55:51status is in regards to video evidence

55:53as well.

55:55um

55:57>> through the chair.

55:58>> Yes, sir.

55:59>> I don't feel like I got a satisfactory

56:02answer. There must be a basis upon which

56:04people make a decision as to who is

56:07accountable

56:08for um the functioning of which device

56:13and different people then being such.

56:16So, I I really think we're entitled to

56:19know how that process works

56:22>> through the chair. So, we will put it

56:24together a process and we'll provide

56:25that information to you.

56:26>> Thank you.

56:28>> Excuse me. Uh, Commissioner Camille.

56:31>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I have a

56:33couple follow-up questions for the

56:35department as well as for chief

56:37investigator in response to public

56:39comments. The first one, um, I do just

56:42want to, uh, through the chair extend my

56:44heartfelt sympathy to I think we had the

56:47family here of Mr. Harvey as well as,

56:49um, Miss Morris is here as well. um as

56:52you all continue to grieve your losses.

56:55Um a question for the department on

56:58this. So I mean this isn't the first

57:01time we've heard of families and victims

57:03being dissatisfied either with the

57:05investigation or with the outcome of the

57:07court cases.

57:09So can the department explain what your

57:12your handoff process is? because I know

57:15at c at a certain point it kind of moves

57:18from DPD into the hands of Wayne County

57:21prosecutors. So what does that handoff

57:23look like, you know, in a way that's

57:26compassionate as well as clear to the

57:29victims and the families that now, you

57:32know, you've been talking with DPD, but

57:33now it's time for you to be dealing with

57:36the Wayne County prosecutor victim

57:38services or whatever area there would be

57:41their point of contact

57:43through the chair. I'm going to defer to

57:45assistant chief song.

57:47>> Yes, sir.

57:57>> Thank you, Assistant Chief Sloan.

58:01>> Good afternoon, board through the chair.

58:03Uh, so there is a process in place for

58:07the so-called handoff. We present

58:09information to the prosecutor's office

58:12and once that warrant is signed, the

58:14prosecutor's office takes over lead. So

58:16if there's issues regarding

58:20the outcome of a court case, there are

58:23appeal processes and I can probably get

58:25you some contact information for the

58:28prosecutor's office to file a complaint

58:30against somebody that is employed there.

58:33But through the court process, the

58:34officer in charge of the case from DPD

58:36will support the case and support the

58:39prosecutor's office. They often sit in

58:40the courtroom during the entire trial.

58:43Um, so if that would be helpful, I also

58:46have a lieutenant from the homicide unit

58:48coming down to speak with both families.

58:50Uh, if there's any additional support

58:52that we can offer. Uh, as far as

58:55specifics about camera information, I

58:58don't have that as as it relates to each

59:00of their cases, but I will be happy to

59:03look into that to see if there's

59:04anything more that we can do.

59:09>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have a couple

59:11more items here regarding public

59:13comment.

59:14>> Go ahead, ma'am.

59:14>> Okay. Thank you. Um, these are for chief

59:18investigator. We have a few people that

59:21mentioned um complaints. Just want to

59:24confirm if you have complaints in the

59:26system active for Mr. Jante Smith. We

59:30also have um Miss Jackson, I believe,

59:34indicated that she should still have a

59:36complaint in system.

59:39And then there was a um I think her name

59:42was Tana who called. She mentioned um

59:45being beat up by the police and and um

59:48her truck being taken. Do you know if we

59:50have a complainting system for her or if

59:52we need to let her know how to file one

59:56>> through through the chair? Uh we we are

59:59uh we have active investigations

1:00:01uh in our system for Mr. Smith and for

1:00:04Miss Jackson. Um

1:00:07Miss Tana, I'm not sure. I can check on

1:00:10that and get back with you. However, if

1:00:12she has not filed a complaint, she can

1:00:14call our office at 3135962499.

1:00:21Between the hours of 8 a.m. and 400 p.m.

1:00:24Monday through Friday, even if she call

1:00:26after those hours, she can leave a

1:00:28message and one of our investigators

1:00:31will get in contact with her

1:00:32immediately. She can also come to our

1:00:34office if she wish. Uh our address is

1:00:37900 Melo Plants right in the Palmer Park

1:00:40area or she can go to any police

1:00:43precinct and make a complaint as well

1:00:47>> through the chair. Yes, ma'am.

1:00:48>> Thank you, chief investigator. Um and

1:00:50Mr. Chair, my last item here, I just

1:00:52want to there was a concern raised about

1:00:54safety at the polls. So I so I do want

1:00:57to encourage everyone to make sure to

1:00:59vote in this election. You can vote

1:01:01absentee at this point. you need to be

1:01:03dropping off your um ballot at a dropbox

1:01:07or at the clerk's office or you can do

1:01:09early voting on election day. Um if you

1:01:13are experiencing any type of

1:01:14intimidation or voter suppression, there

1:01:16is a nonpartisan hotline which is 866

1:01:20our vote. That's 8666878683.

1:01:27And if at the polls, if there's an

1:01:29emergency, just like anywhere else,

1:01:31there's a safety concern, please dial

1:01:34911 and DPD will respond.

1:01:38>> Thank you, Commissioner Camille.

1:01:40Commissioner Watts.

1:01:41>> Yes, thank you, sir. Um, question to um

1:01:45AC Russell, just going back to the audit

1:01:47of the greens lights. I know you said

1:01:49that there's kind of routine every day

1:01:50there's audits.

1:01:52>> Okay. Okay. Is it possible and even if

1:01:54um quarterly or even maybe quarterly

1:01:56that we can get a copy uh the board of

1:01:59police commissioners can get a copy of

1:02:00those audit results?

1:02:02>> So uh yeah, let me get with uh deputy

1:02:04chief through the chair. Let me get with

1:02:06deputy chief bliss and we'll be happy to

1:02:07put something together for you.

1:02:08>> Thank you so much.

1:02:09>> Yes, ma'am.

1:02:10>> That's it, Mr. Chair.

1:02:11>> Thank you,

1:02:15>> Commissioner Bowman.

1:02:16>> Yeah. Um it was really a quest for

1:02:18information from you, the chair. Um what

1:02:22we have I have a um a dis decision from

1:02:27the personnel and training committee and

1:02:30um that would lead to a motion on

1:02:32hiring. Would unfinished business be the

1:02:35correct place to put that motion

1:02:39>> uh to make that?

1:02:40>> Yes. Unfinished business would be the

1:02:42place because right now we are just

1:02:44responding to the uh chief's report.

1:02:47>> Mr. Chairman.

1:02:48>> Okay. Thank you. Unfinished business

1:02:50reflects something that was on the

1:02:52agenda last week that you did not get to

1:02:56or that you did not complete.

1:02:58>> So, was this on the agenda last week?

1:03:00>> I believe it was and we I believe we um

1:03:04postponed it because we didn't have it

1:03:06together, but

1:03:07>> not that I recall.

1:03:08>> Be corrected.

1:03:11>> Maybe it wasn't.

1:03:12>> If if it's not unfinished business, it

1:03:14can be new business. Okay.

1:03:15>> I'm not saying it can't be entertained.

1:03:18>> Okay. Okay. But if it's if if it's

1:03:20unfinished business, that mean you

1:03:21either started it and did not complete

1:03:23it or it was on the agenda and you did

1:03:26not get to it.

1:03:28That's what that's that's what

1:03:30unfinished business reflects.

1:03:32>> Thank you, Madam Parliamentarian. We

1:03:34will look uh under for new business for

1:03:36this.

1:03:36>> Thank you.

1:03:39>> Uh

1:03:40>> I have a question.

1:03:41>> Yes, ma'am.

1:03:42>> Thank you through the chair. Um, with

1:03:44regards to Greenlight, who actually owns

1:03:46the video that is collected through

1:03:50Greenlight?

1:03:51>> Through the chair. Uh, that would be the

1:03:52business owner. Ma'am,

1:03:53>> the business owner.

1:03:54>> Yes, ma'am.

1:03:55>> And then through aou

1:03:57the department receives any video that

1:04:00they might need,

1:04:02>> ma'am.

1:04:02>> Okay. And so then when the cameras are

1:04:06actually out, how do you how does the

1:04:08department know that the cameras are

1:04:09actually out?

1:04:11>> That's where through the chair that's

1:04:12where the audit check is done. So the

1:04:13audit check will reveal whether the

1:04:15cameras are at every day. So if the

1:04:17cameras are out, uh you would do a soft

1:04:20pull to see if you could do them from

1:04:22here with it. If we can't do it from

1:04:24here, then we send our team out. So we

1:04:25have a team of four individuals who work

1:04:27daily uh if there's an issue with camera

1:04:28outages.

1:04:30>> And when um I'm sorry, through the

1:04:32chair.

1:04:32>> Yes, ma'am. When the cameras are out,

1:04:37who pays for any cameras that might be

1:04:41have to be replaced or anything like

1:04:43that?

1:04:44>> Through the chair, that would be on a

1:04:45business owner. Okay. Thank you.

1:04:47>> Thank you.

1:04:50I'm just looking to see if there's any

1:04:51other comments from the commissioners.

1:04:55>> Thank you very much.

1:04:58>> Uh, uh, Chief Warfield. uh through the

1:05:02chair. Uh we uh have received message

1:05:04that Commissioner Woods is on the line

1:05:07and wish to make a comment.

1:05:13Board, you have heard uh

1:05:17that Commissioner Woods is on the line

1:05:19and wishes to speak.

1:05:26Commissioner Bowman, I

1:05:28>> I move that we hear his comment, though

1:05:31of course he can't vote or make any

1:05:33motions online.

1:05:36>> Support. Is it a motion?

1:05:38>> You had a motion. Yes.

1:05:39>> Yes.

1:05:40>> Support.

1:05:40>> All right. It has been motioned that we

1:05:43do hear from uh Commissioner Woods,

1:05:46although he cannot vote, but we will

1:05:49listen. Is any discussion on that

1:05:50motion?

1:05:53Hearing none, all in favor say I. I

1:05:56>> I

1:05:56>> opposed.

1:05:59Commissioner Woods, he can be heard.

1:06:05>> Commissioner Woods, are you there?

1:06:11>> Commissioner Woods, are you there?

1:06:16>> He needs to unmute.

1:06:24>> I'm here. Yeah.

1:06:25>> All right, sir. Go ahead. You may be

1:06:27heard.

1:06:28>> Yes, sir. And for the record, you don't

1:06:30need a vote for that. I'm present at the

1:06:32meeting. I'm just online. I just can't

1:06:34vote as uh Commissioner Bowman said. Uh

1:06:38uh but I would just emphatically uh

1:06:41remind uh uh the public uh that we do

1:06:45not do criminal investigations

1:06:47uh and that those investigations are

1:06:50solely up to uh investigative agencies.

1:06:54We do uh uh uh uh complaints from

1:06:57citizens, citizen complaints and and

1:07:00that is a sacred process and where we do

1:07:02not interfere

1:07:04in no shape, form or fashion with a

1:07:06citizen complaint, you know, and so as

1:07:10Chief Warfield has uh articulated

1:07:13uh is best for folks to have that

1:07:17conversation and uh with uh the uh

1:07:21investigative body which OCI and no

1:07:26commissioners uh should be interfering

1:07:28and I'm not suggesting that any do

1:07:31interfere with that citizen complaint

1:07:33because it's an unbiased uh uh process.

1:07:37Uh we have to be fair to all sides when

1:07:40we allow that uh uh body to do their

1:07:45job. And so if you have an issue not

1:07:47getting anything uh back from OCI, which

1:07:51I've seen time and time again that they

1:07:55have responded uh to many uh complaints,

1:07:58but we're not putting complaints in

1:08:00front of the line, in the back of the

1:08:01line, and the middle of the line. Those

1:08:04complaints uh go through the uh regular

1:08:06process, and there's no uh preferential

1:08:09treatment as relates to any of these

1:08:11complaints. And I just want that to be

1:08:13absolutely made clear. You know, that is

1:08:16a sacred process that we do not

1:08:17interfere in. We sign off on them,

1:08:20review them if we have some problems

1:08:22with them and then we send them back.

1:08:24But they are unbiased

1:08:26uh uh uh on our end. And so we can't

1:08:29take a side from one uh uh person to the

1:08:33next, you know. So I just want to make

1:08:35the record clear on that.

1:08:38>> Thank you, Commissioner Woods.

1:08:43around. All right. Thank you. We will

1:08:46now move on to the chief of police

1:08:48report and that will be given by newly

1:08:51promoted deputy chief Russell.

1:08:57>> Through the chair, good afternoon

1:08:58everyone.

1:08:59>> Good afternoon.

1:09:00>> Uh so we'll start with the crime

1:09:02statistics. Uh

1:09:03>> is your mic on? I'm sorry.

1:09:04>> Yeah, it's on. Okay. Closer.

1:09:08>> So we'll start with the crime

1:09:09statistics. Um, so for homicides, this

1:09:12time last year we had 132. Uh, this time

1:09:16this year we're at 113, which is a 14%

1:09:19decrease. Uh, which is 19 less. Uh, this

1:09:22time last year we had 383 non-fatal

1:09:25shootings. This year we are at 344,

1:09:28which is a 10% reduction, which is 39

1:09:30non-fatal shootings less.

1:09:33This time last year, we were at 778

1:09:36robberies. Today we are at 739 which is

1:09:39a 5% decrease. 39 robberies less. Total

1:09:44part one violent crime. This time last

1:09:46year we were at 8,897.

1:09:49This time this year 8,571

1:09:52which is 320%

1:09:5526% less which is a 4% reduction. And

1:09:58total part one property crime this time

1:10:01last year 20,930.

1:10:04this year 19,363

1:10:06which is a 8% reduction and 1567

1:10:11uh part one property crime less. Um this

1:10:14time last year for carjackings we were

1:10:17at 70. This year we are at 54 which is a

1:10:2023 uh% reduction which is 16 uh

1:10:23carjackings less.

1:10:29There's a couple of uh major incidents

1:10:31that occurred last week. um charges in a

1:10:34homicide of a 16-year-old. Uh we're

1:10:36following an investigation that was led

1:10:38by DPD. The Wayne County Prosecutor's

1:10:40Office has charged 8-year-old Jer

1:10:4318-year-old Jerick Sneed of O Park in

1:10:45connection with the fatal shooting of

1:10:4716-year-old Kayla Embry in the non-fatal

1:10:50shooting of a 19-year-old male. On

1:10:51October 13th, 2026, officers from the

1:10:54Detroit Police Department responded to

1:10:56the 4700 block of Charmers for a

1:10:58shooting. DPD homicide investigator

1:11:01responded, began to speak to witnesses,

1:11:03and process the scene. Homicide

1:11:05investigators follow leads and tips

1:11:07which led to the identification of a

1:11:09suspect in the suspect's vehicle. On

1:11:11October the 14th, 2026, Jerick Sneeed

1:11:14was arrested for the fatal shooting of

1:11:16Miss Embry. Jerickne has been charged

1:11:19with homicide murder first-degree

1:11:20premeditated, four counts of assault

1:11:22when intent to murder, weapons firearm

1:11:25discharge from a vehicle causing death,

1:11:27weapons firearm discharge from a vehicle

1:11:28causing injury, and seven counts of

1:11:31weapons felony firearm.

1:11:33Snee was arraigned on Saturday, October

1:11:3617th, and the bond was denied.

1:11:40There's another case where a juvenile

1:11:42suspect was arrested in a non-fatal

1:11:43shooting of a woman. It occurred on

1:11:45October the 14th at approximately 12:40

1:11:47a.m. in the area of Brush and Pquet. The

1:11:50suspects were observed checking vehicle

1:11:52door handles in the area. After a

1:11:54vehicle alarm went off, the victim and

1:11:55her husband went out to investigate. The

1:11:57complainant observed three young males

1:11:58and begin to follow them in her vehicle.

1:12:00One of the suspects produced a

1:12:01semi-automatic handgun and fired two

1:12:04shots in the direction of the

1:12:05complainant's vehicle. One round struck

1:12:07the vehicle's windshield and entered the

1:12:08vehicle, striking the victim in the

1:12:10chest. The victim was treated and

1:12:12released from the hospital. Images of

1:12:14the suspects were shared with news media

1:12:15and online in which on October 20th uh

1:12:18this led us to tips to which our

1:12:20officers were able to uh arrest the

1:12:22suspected shooter and we were able to

1:12:24identify the other individuals involved.

1:12:27We also had a kidnapping uh that

1:12:30occurred on the west side of Detroit. Uh

1:12:32the kidnapped woman rescued suspects

1:12:34arrested on October 20th, 2026 in the

1:12:378,000 block of Greenfield and Second

1:12:39Precinct. Officers responded to a

1:12:41kidnapping. With further information

1:12:42gathered, officers were led to the 9,000

1:12:45block of Whittier in the Night Precinct.

1:12:47The victim was located by officers. The

1:12:49suspect was arrested and taken into

1:12:50custody. The victim was transported by

1:12:52medis to a local area hospital for

1:12:54treatment. Uh this is an ongoing uh

1:12:57investigation as well.

1:13:00Last week, uh the west side did a

1:13:02enforcement operation on October the 7th

1:13:04and October 8th. Uh we conducted an

1:13:06enforcement operation on the city's west

1:13:07side focusing on criminal gang related

1:13:09behavior and areas which led uh

1:13:11different areas throughout the west side

1:13:13which have been occurring um not

1:13:15necessarily gang related per se but

1:13:16group or gangs involving uh young

1:13:18juveniles. Um our officer made 49 felony

1:13:22arrests for misdemeanor arrest and

1:13:24recovered 32 firearms.

1:13:27Traffic enforcement continues uh to do

1:13:29good work. Uh from October 12th to

1:13:31October 16th, the traffic enforcement

1:13:33unit conducted operations in the third,

1:13:35fifth, and sixth precincts. Officers

1:13:37made 353 traffic stops. They issue 737

1:13:41tickets for moving violations and 107

1:13:43tickets for speeding.

1:13:48We continue with our narcotics

1:13:50enforcement for the week of October

1:13:5118th. Our narcotics unit executed six

1:13:54search warrants, making five felony

1:13:56arrests, recovering 10 firearms and

1:13:58various amounts of fentanyl, meth,

1:14:00cocaine, and pills.

1:14:02Updating community events that's coming

1:14:04up. Uh we have a graduating class on

1:14:06Friday, October the 30th. Uh we will be

1:14:08having a graduation ceremony for class

1:14:102026G. We look forward to welcoming our

1:14:12new officers to the department. The

1:14:14graduation ceremony will be streamed

1:14:15live on the department's Facebook page.

1:14:19On Saturday, October 31st, every Detroit

1:14:21Police Department precinct will be

1:14:22hosting a free and safe trunk or treat

1:14:24event for community members. Times and

1:14:26locations will vary. Please check with

1:14:28your local precinct to find out the

1:14:29times of all the events.

1:14:38I also have um a couple of follow-ups

1:14:40from last week. Uh, one of the

1:14:42follow-ups was involving Commissioner

1:14:44Morris and Commissioner uh Camille uh

1:14:47regarding the Alonzo Lee Perkins

1:14:48shooting investigation. Um, the open

1:14:51administrative investigation is underway

1:14:53by force investigation. The involved

1:14:55member who used daily force is scheduled

1:14:56for a Gity interview.

1:15:00Unauthorized uh license plate reader

1:15:02system for use. Uh this is also an open

1:15:04internal affairs investigation in which

1:15:06the report is not yet completed and

1:15:08that's in response to commissioner

1:15:10Camille.

1:15:15Also in response to Commissioner Camille

1:15:17is your report for the flock system

1:15:18audit. Uh that flock has been submitted

1:15:20to the chief's office. So you should

1:15:22have it made available to you. You

1:15:23should be receiving it. So it was

1:15:25submitted today.

1:15:28Incident involving a 50-year-old girl

1:15:30that was struck by a patrol vehicle. Uh,

1:15:32Commissioner Camille, uh, you posed this

1:15:34question last week. Uh, Commander Thurko

1:15:36and Fatal Squad are working on this. The

1:15:38decision to show the video to the mom,

1:15:40uh, was re reversed by major crimes.

1:15:42However, today, uh, the chief's

1:15:44authorized to show the video to the

1:15:46board of police commissioners. Uh, this

1:15:47could be done in a a closed session or a

1:15:49single purpose. Uh, so if the board

1:15:51could provide me a date or let me know

1:15:53you guys would like to review the video,

1:15:54then of course we will share that video

1:15:56with you.

1:16:00In response to Commissioner Williams um

1:16:03sassy cop detective Terrence Baron, uh

1:16:05internal affairs has opened a case on

1:16:07this incident. The sergeant was

1:16:08interviewed by internal affairs. Uh he

1:16:10did admit that he made the derogatory

1:16:12comment. He indicated that he was under

1:16:14a lot of stress at the time due to it

1:16:16being over 200 people at the disturbance

1:16:18and four officers. He also indicated

1:16:20that he responded with the inappropriate

1:16:21comments after the citizen made a

1:16:23derogatory statement about his

1:16:24sexuality. The sergeant was remorseful

1:16:27about his actions. investigation is

1:16:29ongoing.

1:16:32And in regards to Commissioner Ivy, uh

1:16:35she also asked for some data, uh

1:16:38statistical data, and that report will

1:16:39also be uh provided to the board from

1:16:41the chief's office. It was submitted

1:16:42today. And that's it for uh the chief's

1:16:45report, unless you have any questions

1:16:46for me.

1:16:47>> Thank you, uh Deputy Chief Russell. Uh

1:16:50are there any questions for the deputy

1:16:52chief? Commissioner Williams.

1:16:54>> Yeah.

1:16:55>> Question um

1:16:56>> through the chair. I just want to know

1:16:58pending the investigation, what is this

1:17:00officer status?

1:17:04>> Through the chair, I have to get back to

1:17:05you about that.

1:17:06>> Thank you.

1:17:08>> That it, sir?

1:17:10>> Commissioner Camille.

1:17:11>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, couple

1:17:13questions for the chief.

1:17:14>> I'm I'm sorry.

1:17:15>> I'm sorry. Through the chair. Uh, he is

1:17:17currently for duty. The investigation is

1:17:19ongoing.

1:17:21>> Thank you. I'm sorry, Commissioner

1:17:22Camille.

1:17:23>> No problem. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And

1:17:25congratulations again DC Russell. Um and

1:17:29thank you for the updates that you

1:17:30provided on the questions that we had

1:17:32last week. That is definitely helpful.

1:17:34Um, I would uh like to know through the

1:17:38chair if um we'll just schedule a close

1:17:42session to view the video that the chief

1:17:45mentioned or if we need to take a vote

1:17:48for that

1:17:51or is that something that you'll just

1:17:53direct staff to to schedule

1:17:55>> the schedule? Yes, ma'am.

1:17:56>> Okay. Thank you so much. Um I have one

1:17:59question for the chief.

1:18:02So,

1:18:03>> chair.

1:18:04>> Yes, ma'am.

1:18:04>> In response to Commissioner Camille's uh

1:18:06question, uh Commander McInness is

1:18:08prepared to show that video today if you

1:18:10would like to see it in a closed

1:18:11session.

1:18:16>> Your pleasure.

1:18:17>> I would like to if if we have time

1:18:18today. We have two other closed sessions

1:18:20scheduled. So, let's just stay all

1:18:22night.

1:18:24>> Madam Parliamentarian,

1:18:25>> you'd have to have a motion to amend the

1:18:27agenda.

1:18:28There's been no notice of this

1:18:31>> and the agenda has been approved without

1:18:33that. So we'd have to have a motion to

1:18:35amend the agenda and since the agenda

1:18:37has already been adopted it would

1:18:38require 2/3.

1:18:42>> Thank you madam parliamentarian.

1:18:47Is someone willing is there a motion or

1:18:49someone's willing to make a motion on

1:18:51this?

1:18:52>> Mr. Mr. Chair, I move that we add an

1:18:56additional close session to the agenda

1:18:59today to view the body worn camera um

1:19:02video of this incident.

1:19:05>> Mr. Chairman.

1:19:06>> Yes, ma'am.

1:19:06>> The commissioner's motion is fine except

1:19:09that she needs to say exactly where

1:19:12that's going to be. Oh,

1:19:14>> since there are two other items on

1:19:16>> the agenda already for close session, uh

1:19:19we would need to know where that's going

1:19:22to uh where she wants that done

1:19:25>> through the chair. Point of information.

1:19:28>> Yes, ma'am.

1:19:29>> Um question for the parliamentarian. Um

1:19:32since this if this is approved, that

1:19:34would have us with three close sessions

1:19:36on the agenda. Um, in the past we've

1:19:40taken the opportunity to just go into

1:19:43close session at one time and then

1:19:46instead of going in and out. So, um, so

1:19:50I I do want to make my motion to add

1:19:54after item 8B

1:19:58to add a close session as item 8 C.

1:20:02>> Very, thank you very much. Um and then

1:20:05also just with the recommendation that

1:20:07we just go out into close session and

1:20:09handle all three items.

1:20:11>> Yes. The current uh attorney for the

1:20:14board has um identified that you don't

1:20:17have to go in and out. We have one close

1:20:19session and then we have those three

1:20:22issues with people who are not

1:20:24appropriate having to leave for

1:20:26subsequent sessions.

1:20:29>> Okay.

1:20:30>> That's my motion, Mr. Chair.

1:20:31>> Yeah. But it would be HC.

1:20:33>> It was the motion. That's appropriate.

1:20:37>> I'll second.

1:20:39>> Uh

1:20:41under discussion.

1:20:43Uh I know that Commissioner Bowman, we

1:20:45had moved because those closed sessions

1:20:47are under new business.

1:20:49>> Yeah.

1:20:49>> So, and we had Commissioner Bowman had

1:20:52had uh some information that he wanted

1:20:54to share is his eighth C. and this

1:20:58becomes

1:20:59>> well if you adopt Commissioner Camille's

1:21:02motion that would be 8C. Uh Commissioner

1:21:05Bowman

1:21:07wants to do something with a personnel

1:21:10report.

1:21:12>> Yes.

1:21:13>> Yeah. It doesn't require closed in fact

1:21:15this should not be in closed session.

1:21:16It's simply a vote on um supporting the

1:21:19recommendations of the personnel and

1:21:21training.

1:21:21>> Mr. Chairman, as the parliamentarian

1:21:22recalls, the issue was whether or not it

1:21:24was unfinished business.

1:21:25>> Correct. or whether it was new business.

1:21:27And I'm not clear whether or not that

1:21:30question was answered. If it's if if it

1:21:32was I told you what unfinished business

1:21:34is,

1:21:34>> correct?

1:21:35>> So you could have new business that's

1:21:37not a closed session.

1:21:40>> Correct. And I had

1:21:42>> better where it goes,

1:21:43>> right? And I had put it under new

1:21:44business. Uh

1:21:47what he was requesting. Commissioner

1:21:49Bowman,

1:21:50>> you were speaking in terms of you said

1:21:52the uh

1:21:56>> human resources,

1:21:57>> right? We we made a decision here. Um if

1:21:59I may elaborate, we made a decision

1:22:03regarding um the appointment of an

1:22:06administrative assistant and it's just a

1:22:09ma a motion regarding that appointment.

1:22:12That's what it is. And for simp, if I

1:22:16may add, um, in my opinion, it might be

1:22:19good just so the public um, doesn't need

1:22:21to wait around to hear that, just to put

1:22:23that right before close session.

1:22:28>> Round.

1:22:28>> So, it could be inserted prior to A. You

1:22:31could make it a new A.

1:22:33>> Okay.

1:22:33>> Take care of it in open session and then

1:22:36go into close session. that would make

1:22:38the most sense based on what

1:22:39Commissioner Bowman is saying rather

1:22:41than go to close session and then have

1:22:43this

1:22:44>> which means the public would be in here

1:22:45for that.

1:22:46>> Yeah. Yeah. There's no objection. You

1:22:48don't have to have a motion if there's

1:22:49no objection right

1:22:50>> to moving it to precede 8A the closed

1:22:54new 8A.

1:22:56>> Thank you.

1:22:57Uh Commissioner Bowman, you have heard

1:22:59that. Do you have any objections? I

1:23:01>> have no objection.

1:23:02>> Thank you, sir. And so now we'll be

1:23:04voting on the um motion which is a

1:23:10letter C regarding the viewing of the uh

1:23:16the viewing of the issue that is at on

1:23:19hand.

1:23:21Commissioner Camille, if you can state

1:23:22that motion one more time. I'm sorry.

1:23:25>> No problem, Mr. Chair. The motion is to

1:23:29amend the agenda to add item 8 C to

1:23:35new business to go into close session

1:23:37and view the body warn camera footage of

1:23:39the incident under discussion.

1:23:41>> Thank you, Commissioner. I think it

1:23:42would been supported by Commissioner

1:23:44Bowman. Did I get that right?

1:23:46>> Yes, sir.

1:23:47>> Thank you. Uh, is there any discussion

1:23:49on the motion,

1:23:50>> Mr. Chair?

1:23:50>> Yes.

1:23:51>> Just clarification. Are we talking about

1:23:52discussing it in the close session today

1:23:54or just having one scheduled for the

1:23:56future?

1:23:56>> Today,

1:23:59if I'm not mistaken, that

1:24:01>> is for today.

1:24:02>> That's the motion, Mr. Chair.

1:24:03>> Thank you.

1:24:05>> Uh, Deputy Chief Russell.

1:24:07>> Yeah, that through the chair. I just

1:24:08want to be clear that this is um incar

1:24:10video. This is not body warn camera

1:24:12video. This is incar video.

1:24:13>> Okay,

1:24:14>> that makes sense.

1:24:15>> Does that Okay.

1:24:16>> Thank you. Any any other discussion?

1:24:19>> Thank you. Hearing none. All in favor of

1:24:20the motion, please indicate by I.

1:24:22>> I.

1:24:22>> I. Opposed. Thank you. The motion does

1:24:25carry. Thank you, commissioners.

1:24:28At this time,

1:24:29>> the chair.

1:24:30>> Yes, ma'am.

1:24:30>> I'm sorry. I do have a question for the

1:24:33chief, though, that we didn't get to.

1:24:34>> Oh, yes, ma'am.

1:24:35>> I'm sorry about that. Um,

1:24:41looking for it. Okay. Uh so in regards

1:24:44to wrongfully incarcerated individuals,

1:24:47um when does the department get any type

1:24:49of report or notification

1:24:52when the courts determine make a

1:24:54determine to exonerate someone for

1:24:56wrongful conviction? Are you all

1:24:58notified of that? If you're if DPD did

1:25:02the investigation

1:25:07through the chair, I'm going to defer to

1:25:08AC Sloan.

1:25:10Thank you,

1:25:12Assistant Chief Sloan.

1:25:17>> Yes. Good afternoon again and through

1:25:19the chair. We do work with the Wayne

1:25:21County Prosecutor's Office Community,

1:25:24I'm sorry, conviction integrity unit. Uh

1:25:26we work closely with them and anytime

1:25:28there is a conviction that's overturned,

1:25:29we are notified of that information.

1:25:32>> Thank you. Through the chair, um to

1:25:34deputy uh AC, I'm sorry, AC Sloan. So

1:25:38when that happens, does DPD routinely go

1:25:41back to look at that investigation to

1:25:43determine if any DPD members involved

1:25:45violated any policy um which led to that

1:25:48wrongful conviction

1:25:51through the chair. It depends on the

1:25:54circumstance and the reason for the

1:25:55convictions. The conviction can be

1:25:58overturned. It can be vacated. There's

1:25:59several different categories that that

1:26:01falls into. If there is an allegation of

1:26:06wrongdoing on DPD members, we certainly

1:26:08look at that. Okay.

1:26:10>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1:26:11>> Yes. Corporate council mallet.

1:26:13>> Yeah. So, the I think uh through the

1:26:15chair commissioner Camilo, it's

1:26:17critically important to understand

1:26:20that just because the the conviction

1:26:22integrity unit has recommended in fact

1:26:26that a conviction be overturned.

1:26:29uh the that is their recommendation that

1:26:31has to go through should go through an

1:26:34adversary court proceeding. The

1:26:37corporation council's office has

1:26:39presented and at this point it's going

1:26:40to have to go to the Michigan Supreme

1:26:42Court where we are saying that the Wayne

1:26:45County prosecutor's office is not

1:26:47following the correct procedure because

1:26:50it should be an adversarial hearing

1:26:53where right now what's going on is a

1:26:55stipulated order. uh that is there is no

1:26:58hearing and that the judge is simply

1:27:00accepting the uh uh uh decision

1:27:05recommended by the conviction integrity

1:27:07unit. City of Detroit is is literally uh

1:27:12then subject to uh damages in the

1:27:16multi-millions

1:27:17of dollars. And so the the we we find

1:27:22ourselves in the absence of information

1:27:26in a critically important defensive uh

1:27:29position. So the the what we are

1:27:34strongly recommending DPD yes needs to

1:27:37examine their procedures to be sure that

1:27:40what is alleged doesn't occur again. But

1:27:44the uh uh there I just want the board to

1:27:47know that we continue to resist the

1:27:51finding because it has not been arrived

1:27:53at pursuant to an adversarial

1:27:56proceeding. Not necessarily one

1:27:58commissioner that we would participate

1:28:00in, but simply because someone says we

1:28:04think that conviction should be

1:28:05overturned. Upon what basis? What are

1:28:08you saying? And aren't you going to

1:28:10share with the city of Detroit the

1:28:13circumstances how you reach that

1:28:15conclusion? It's just the the to suggest

1:28:18automatically

1:28:20that DPD did something wrong without

1:28:23some examination of the facts that

1:28:26support what the conviction integrity

1:28:28unit is recommending is is is what so I

1:28:32just putting the board on notice that

1:28:34we're concerned about that. So it's not

1:28:36automatic. I I'm not suggesting that

1:28:39that DPD and and and Assistant Chief

1:28:42Sloan should not look at it and say if

1:28:46the allegations are true,

1:28:49we need to make sure we're not doing X,

1:28:51Y, and Z. But I just don't want there to

1:28:53be an implication that the truth has

1:28:57been arrived at because that ain't what

1:28:59that's not necessarily

1:29:01uh the outcome.

1:29:04>> Mr.

1:29:04>> Mr. Chair, thank you. Um, and thank you

1:29:06for that, uh, corporation and council.

1:29:09Um, and most certainly I'm not

1:29:10suggesting that in in every case there

1:29:13was something that fought on on DPD's

1:29:15part. I mean, there a lot of

1:29:17participants in a case and a lot of

1:29:20reasons why um, someone could be uh,

1:29:24wrongfully convicted. Um, I just want to

1:29:27be sure that if indeed

1:29:29>> Yes, ma'am. DPD played a part in that

1:29:32that that is being corrected either

1:29:33through policy procedure or if an

1:29:36individual or group of individuals are

1:29:38personally

1:29:40um at fault for that that they're held.

1:29:42I mean these wrongful convictions have

1:29:46just extreme consequences to people's

1:29:49lives. So, um, just want to make sure

1:29:51that at least on our part that we're,

1:29:54um, as a board, we're asking the

1:29:57questions and making sure DPD

1:30:00understands our expectation is that they

1:30:02are, um, ensuring that if at all

1:30:05possible, these things don't happen

1:30:06again.

1:30:06>> Yes, ma'am.

1:30:08>> Thank you, Commissioner Williams.

1:30:11>> Uh, yeah, through the chair, I want to

1:30:12talk about that integrity unit um, as

1:30:15well. There was a commissioner meeting

1:30:17that I have brought up, a similar uh

1:30:19incident as well from a retired

1:30:21detective, Barbara Simon, and she has

1:30:25cases that uh people were actually

1:30:29wrongfully convicted and they were

1:30:32actually overturned. Not that they said

1:30:35they should overturn them, but they were

1:30:37actually overturned. I mentioned that. I

1:30:40don't know if DPD has uh did any due

1:30:43diligence and research in any of her

1:30:45past cases, but there was a article that

1:30:49stated that there were multiple cases

1:30:52that that detective worked on and other

1:30:55people were also wrongfully convicted as

1:30:59well. So, when DPD do find out about

1:31:02these overturned cases by their own

1:31:05officers, are they really looking into

1:31:07it and are they doing something about

1:31:10it? Um, I would like to have some

1:31:13information on cases from the retired

1:31:15detective because these cases that she

1:31:19worked on were in fact overturned. It

1:31:22wasn't speculated or uh a thought that

1:31:25they should be overturned. they actually

1:31:27were overturned because of wrongdoings

1:31:30that the detective was doing times

1:31:32however other many people cases and

1:31:35files that she had.

1:31:37>> So, uh, through the chair.

1:31:38>> Yes, sir.

1:31:39>> Commissioner, the the the law department

1:31:42will work with DPD because I don't know

1:31:44where these lawsuits all are, but I

1:31:47guarantee you that if the if the cases

1:31:50were brought, time was served, and the

1:31:53cases were overturned, lawsuits are in

1:31:55process. So, I don't want DPD to

1:31:58overpromise because if they're in

1:31:59litigation, then it's likely that uh uh

1:32:03there may not be information that can be

1:32:05shared. So, we'll check uh uh and we

1:32:08will have a written report back to you.

1:32:14>> Yeah, I just, you know, I'm finished. Uh

1:32:18>> yeah, that's it.

1:32:21>> I understand. Uh Commissioner Woods, are

1:32:23you there?

1:32:27Commissioner Woods.

1:32:28>> Uh yes, I'm here. Uh I think it's uh uh

1:32:33is very very dangerous to attack uh uh

1:32:37conviction integrity units. This is

1:32:38something that is going on around the

1:32:41country. Uh the conviction integrity

1:32:44units have saved uh numerous lives from

1:32:48wrongful conviction whether it be from

1:32:51police misconduct, prosecutor

1:32:53misconduct, and every other misconduct.

1:32:56And that you know that it's dangerous to

1:32:59uh uh you know uh attack these units.

1:33:03You know what I'm saying? These units

1:33:04are doing a powerful job. and also the

1:33:08the University of Michigan Innocent

1:33:11Project, the National Innocent Project.

1:33:14Those are institutions and entities that

1:33:17has uncovered

1:33:19um you know some atrocious things that

1:33:22has happened in our criminal legal

1:33:24system. Uh the thing is is that many of

1:33:27these cases are decades old. Uh and a

1:33:30lot of people uh you can scrutinize it,

1:33:34look at it. I was actually sitting in a

1:33:36federal court house doing uh uh watching

1:33:39cases and seeing some things come out

1:33:41from a very conservative judge that was

1:33:45appalled by some of the things that has

1:33:47happened you know so I think that we

1:33:49need to be very very careful in our

1:33:51language and in terms of you know

1:33:54speaking against uh this particular

1:33:57process and I'm I'm sure that uh uh that

1:34:01the corporation council is not going

1:34:03there you know what I'm saying But these

1:34:04these these this is something that's

1:34:07going on around the entire country

1:34:09that's writing some of the grave

1:34:11injustice that's happened in this system

1:34:14when you come from Starski and Hutch and

1:34:17all a lot of these uh officers uh uh

1:34:20some who have been sent to prison uh

1:34:23some uh who have uh have

1:34:27had many challenges themselves. You know

1:34:30what I'm saying? So I think uh uh for

1:34:32those who have been impacted uh by

1:34:35wrongful convictions and stuff that we

1:34:37need to be very very sensitive to that

1:34:39and which I know uh uh justice mallet

1:34:42would be that.

1:34:45>> Thank you.

1:35:05I know.

1:35:08>> Good afternoon.

1:35:12>> Good afternoon through the chair. I will

1:35:14be presenting the HR report for the

1:35:16month of September. So the department at

1:35:19the time was filled at 94%. For sworn,

1:35:22we were filled at 95% had 138 vacancies,

1:35:265% vacancy rate. And for for our

1:35:29civilian professional staff, we were

1:35:30filled at 91 uh% with 79 vacancies and

1:35:349% vacancy rate. For sworn recruiting,

1:35:37beginning of the fiscal year, there was

1:35:39a total of 1,415

1:35:41applications. In process was 737

1:35:45withdrew was 19 archive was 260 hired 25

1:35:50temporary disqualified 181 permanently

1:35:52disqualified 66 and awaiting M codes at

1:35:55that time was 152 for our M codes

1:35:58testing for schedule for the written

1:36:00test we had a total of 102 um for the

1:36:03month of September 48 appeared we had 29

1:36:06that passed 60% passing rate we had 19

1:36:09that fail uh 40% failure rate and 54

1:36:13no-shows. For the physical agility, it

1:36:15was a total of 114 scheduled, 59

1:36:18appeared, 25 pass, which was uh 42% and

1:36:22then 34 failed, 58% failure rate, and 55

1:36:26no shows. For the academy class

1:36:28graduation, it was total of 22. For

1:36:31total new hires for September, it was 13

1:36:33civilian professional staff. for the

1:36:36Detroit residency information that was

1:36:38pulled as of September 30th. For

1:36:40Detroititers, total sworn, we had 575.

1:36:44And then eight police assistants. For

1:36:46the non-D Detroititers, 1,963

1:36:48sworn, eight police assistant. And for

1:36:51our civilian professional staff, we had

1:36:53374 Detroititers, 433 non Detroititers.

1:36:57And of the new hires, we had a total of

1:36:59eight of the 13 um civilian professional

1:37:02staff that are Detroit residents. For

1:37:04our student intern program, we have a

1:37:06total of 18 as of right now. Um, for

1:37:09attrition, we had sworn, 18 separations,

1:37:1320 civilian professional staff, a total

1:37:15of 39. And then for our leave of

1:37:18absences for FMLA continuous, we have

1:37:21eight sworn, one civilian. For FMLA

1:37:24intermittent, 91 sworn, 77 civilians.

1:37:27Paid parental leave, 17 sworn, four

1:37:29civilian professional staff. Medical

1:37:31leave, one sworn, two professional

1:37:34staff. Military leave, we have seven

1:37:37sworn. Restricted is down to 41 sworn,

1:37:41seven civilian professional staff.

1:37:43Disabled, 32 sworn, two civilian

1:37:45professional staff, and sick. We have 25

1:37:48sworn and five civilian professional

1:37:50staff. For suspensions, we had a total

1:37:52of 17, 14 police officers, one

1:37:54detective, one sergeant, and one

1:37:57lieutenant.

1:37:58And for the separations, um, total of

1:38:0118, 16 police officers, one lieutenant,

1:38:04one detective for the 18. And then for

1:38:06our deferred, uh, drop program, we have

1:38:09a total of 422

1:38:11as of September. And then finally, uh,

1:38:14we will be starting our next academy

1:38:16class next week. Pending any questions?

1:38:18That's all I have.

1:38:19>> Thank you, Director Patillo. Do we have

1:38:21any questions for director Patillo?

1:38:24Miss Eva Dew.

1:38:29Thank you.

1:38:30>> Thank you, director, for that report.

1:38:32Uh, just real quick, I just wanted to

1:38:34get some clarification on some of the

1:38:36numbers. And I may have asked this

1:38:39before, but I just need my memory to be

1:38:41refreshed. the um leave of absence

1:38:44number, the numbers that you quoted just

1:38:47just a few minutes ago. Um do do you add

1:38:51the total column all the way across to

1:38:55get the number of officers that are on

1:38:58leave of absence or are some of them

1:39:00duplicates?

1:39:03>> They should not be duplicates. And

1:39:06there's different categories for those

1:39:08absences. So like your FMA continuous

1:39:10those are like consecutive days.

1:39:12Intermittent could be different days.

1:39:14Paid parental leave is um for like

1:39:17maternity uh use. Then you have your

1:39:20medical military. So these are separate

1:39:23numbers for each one of those

1:39:25categories.

1:39:26>> Okay. I understand that. I guess what

1:39:27I'm trying to find out is if I were to

1:39:29add them all across, we're looking at

1:39:32probably over 200

1:39:34>> correct

1:39:34>> that are not working.

1:39:38Incorrect.

1:39:39>> Okay.

1:39:39>> So, some of these categories are

1:39:41working. So, like you're restricted,

1:39:42they are working. You're disabled,

1:39:44they're not working. So, that's

1:39:46>> they're different populations.

1:39:48>> Okay. All right. That helps. Thank you.

1:39:51And then just uh through the chair, just

1:39:52one more real quick.

1:39:53>> Yes, ma'am.

1:39:54>> Uh the DRAP program

1:39:56again uh you have a total of 422

1:40:00officers within all the different ranks.

1:40:03>> Correct. Does that mean those officers

1:40:07are no longer with us?

1:40:09>> That that is incorrect. They are

1:40:11actually with us.

1:40:13>> Okay. Then what does it mean to be in

1:40:15the drop program? Could you clarify that

1:40:17please?

1:40:18>> Assistant Chief Sloan, would you like to

1:40:20answer that one? So that's basically

1:40:22mean that they're they have the ability

1:40:24um for retirement. So they are actually

1:40:27working

1:40:29but they paid into the they the drop

1:40:32program which means they were retirement

1:40:34eligible.

1:40:35>> Oh okay. So they're retire. Okay. I'll

1:40:39let GC or AC Sloan

1:40:42>> through the chair. So the the drop

1:40:43program is an option when you become

1:40:45retirement eligible. So after depending

1:40:48on which union you're in. Uh DPOA is 20

1:40:52years. um LSA, I believe, and DPCOA,

1:40:56they're 25. So, once you reach the

1:40:59mandated time for retirement, you have

1:41:01the option to

1:41:03uh begin to collect your pension, but it

1:41:06goes into a retirement fund.

1:41:07>> Okay?

1:41:08>> So, you're allowed, depending on which

1:41:10union you're in, to stay into that

1:41:12program for a certain amount of time.

1:41:13So, um your pension doesn't continue to

1:41:16increase. You receive those payments

1:41:18into a retirement fund and you continue

1:41:20to work.

1:41:21>> Okay. Thank you very much both of you.

1:41:24Thank you.

1:41:25>> That's it. Commissioner Dwash,

1:41:27>> Commissioner Williams.

1:41:29>> Yes. Uh through the chair on the

1:41:33suspension report.

1:41:35I don't see why they're suspended. And I

1:41:39thought that they put the reason why

1:41:41they're suspended on these reports.

1:41:44>> Give me one sec. It might be in your

1:41:46packet, but hold on.

1:41:48Yes. No, your suspension or the

1:41:51separations

1:41:52>> suspension.

1:41:53>> The suspensions um I don't know if you

1:41:56received that from somewhere else, but

1:41:58in your packet um we just actually have

1:42:00the suspension report, but it is the

1:42:03reason is not on there and

1:42:07we have commander um

1:42:08>> cuz I believe last month's report had it

1:42:11on there.

1:42:12>> We have this we have the reasons for the

1:42:14separations. You might have received the

1:42:16report from someone else but not in the

1:42:18HR packet.

1:42:21>> But I can

1:42:22>> I want to say that I want to say that it

1:42:23was but is is this are these for this

1:42:28month?

1:42:29>> September.

1:42:30>> September only.

1:42:31>> Correct.

1:42:32>> It wouldn't reflect the other suspended

1:42:34officers from another time. This is just

1:42:36from September.

1:42:38>> So these are the ones they have listed

1:42:40on there for the month. So that doesn't

1:42:42necessarily mean that they they could

1:42:44have been August as well, but they're on

1:42:46there still as of September, but we do

1:42:48have um Commander McInness here who

1:42:51oversees the suspension report and um he

1:42:55could probably answer your question a

1:42:56little bit better.

1:42:58So they're on the report every month

1:43:00until they fall off the report.

1:43:02>> Okay.

1:43:12Commander McInness professional

1:43:14standards through the chair. Yes, that

1:43:15is that is accurate. The if a member

1:43:18gets suspended that goes on the the

1:43:19report, let's say that happened in July,

1:43:21they'll maintain on that report every

1:43:24month thereafter until their duty status

1:43:25changes.

1:43:27>> All right. I just want to probably look

1:43:30at um the last month's report as well,

1:43:34but I just

1:43:36I know and I could be mistaken, but

1:43:38because I pointed out something before

1:43:41and what I pointed out was the reason

1:43:44why they were suspended on this same

1:43:46type of page and paper and I don't see

1:43:48it.

1:43:49>> It's an automated report. Um, I have not

1:43:52made any adjustments to the report other

1:43:54than uh the last request for an

1:43:57adjustment was to include the duration

1:43:59of the duty status change. Uh, so that

1:44:02should be on the next month's report,

1:44:05but beyond that, that's that's been the

1:44:07standard report that that we've

1:44:08provided. I don't know if there's some

1:44:10other report maybe that you've been

1:44:11receiving.

1:44:13>> Okay.

1:44:14>> Is is the question that you're asking

1:44:16can the reason be added to the

1:44:18suspension report? Um I would if it's

1:44:20not I would like it to be. So while I'm

1:44:22looking at you know their names and

1:44:25seeing that they're suspended with pay

1:44:27or whatever the reason why um but I can

1:44:30ask uh I can take a deeper dive you know

1:44:34outside of a meeting um about that

1:44:36information.

1:44:41>> You all done Commissioner Williams?

1:44:43>> Yes.

1:44:43>> Commissioner Camille.

1:44:44>> Thank you Mr. Chair. And uh before

1:44:47Commander McGinness gets all the way

1:44:49back to his seat,

1:44:52um I have a question about the same

1:44:54report and um thank you Director Patillo

1:44:56for your report today. So on this

1:45:00suspension report, I know we've been

1:45:02having some conversations about the

1:45:04dates that are listed on here. So, the

1:45:07changes that you made is that to bring

1:45:09in the date when those are that are on

1:45:12suspended with pay where we're going to

1:45:15actually be able to see how long they've

1:45:17been on suspended with pay. I'm I'm

1:45:22really trying to understand how long

1:45:24taxpayer dollars are being spent for

1:45:26somebody to sit at home on the couch.

1:45:29>> Yeah. No, the report will indicate when

1:45:31their initial duty status occurred and

1:45:34that uh sometimes when we have the need

1:45:38to change someone's duty status, it

1:45:40might start with an admin no gun. And as

1:45:43the investigation progresses, more

1:45:45information is learned and a decision is

1:45:47made that we need to suspend the

1:45:49officer, then it transitions to

1:45:51suspended with pay. Uh and then

1:45:53eventually ultimately maybe coming

1:45:55before you for administrative leave

1:45:56without pay. the the the program we have

1:45:59only captures the initial duty status

1:46:01change

1:46:03>> through the chair.

1:46:04>> Yes, ma'am.

1:46:05>> Okay. So, that initial duty status

1:46:09change date has been added to the

1:46:10report. It's on here

1:46:12>> and this and this was and that was on

1:46:14here before. So, just to kind of recap

1:46:16the conversation for the last several

1:46:18months on this, we were getting the date

1:46:22of initial duty status change before and

1:46:26um I had raised concerns. I think

1:46:28Commissioner Morris might have raised

1:46:30concerns as well about that not telling

1:46:34us the full story. So, for example, we

1:46:37have someone on here that has an initial

1:46:41duty status change back to November of

1:46:452025.

1:46:46And so, when I look at that, I'm

1:46:48wondering, so they've been suspended

1:46:51with pay for going on a year now. And

1:46:55that may be true, but that may not be

1:46:56true because like you said, they might

1:46:58have gone into like a admin no gun first

1:47:00and and on and on. So, it's

1:47:05what I'm asking for and and and when I

1:47:07asked for it before this date got

1:47:09dropped off of the report. We weren't

1:47:11getting any date and now this date has

1:47:13been put back on here which this date is

1:47:15fine to be here. I think it helps to

1:47:16tell the story. But for those that are

1:47:19suspended with pay,

1:47:21it is important that we understand

1:47:24how long they've been in that duty

1:47:27status because this is what that's

1:47:29what's costing money and they're not

1:47:31producing work for the city.

1:47:34Uh respectfully, I would I would ask

1:47:35that the board collectively make that

1:47:37request to the chief's office and maybe

1:47:39do it through uh an individual basis

1:47:42because the logistics for me to change

1:47:45that on my end is is quite significant

1:47:48and would open us up for a lot of errors

1:47:51and mistakes is which is something in

1:47:53this system that I really don't want to

1:47:55make us vulnerable at. So, uh, it would

1:47:58be much easier if if the board made the

1:48:02request when they received this report,

1:48:04if there's a new name on it, what that

1:48:06was, and then through the chief's

1:48:08office, we can comply.

1:48:10>> Mr. Chair.

1:48:11>> Yes, ma'am. I just I want to put my

1:48:14concerns on the record that I've asked

1:48:16for this week after week after week and

1:48:20have been told that it's coming and then

1:48:24and for some reason there continues to

1:48:26be a misunderstanding of what's being

1:48:27asked and to my understanding you as

1:48:30well as a few other commissioners had a

1:48:32meeting with the chief and his

1:48:35leadership team to talk about this very

1:48:38request and now we're here at the table

1:48:40again and there's this misunderstanding

1:48:43of what was being asked before and now

1:48:46indicating that it's not possible.

1:48:49We have an issue with um not

1:48:51understanding what the requests are. And

1:48:54this isn't a long list. Like we don't

1:48:55have 30 names on here. There's like what

1:48:58is this 10 11 names in the status of

1:49:01suspended with pay. So even if it was a

1:49:03manual effort to put the date on here, I

1:49:07don't see why this should be a problem.

1:49:09It does not look like a heavy lift of

1:49:10work. Let me let me address that please.

1:49:12It it actually is what you're getting is

1:49:14an automated report from a different

1:49:16database that has a lot more names in it

1:49:18than just the 11 on this report. And in

1:49:21order to track it, we have our system

1:49:23for entering it when the duty status

1:49:25occurs. And we make adjustments based on

1:49:28uh additions or moving it on that

1:49:31individual person. What you're asking is

1:49:33for us to change how we how we do our

1:49:36our process completely which for like

1:49:40you just said only so few names it would

1:49:43be much easier for the department and I

1:49:45think the board if the request came for

1:49:48those so few names separate and apart

1:49:50from this report and through the chief's

1:49:53office if we can comply but to change

1:49:56how we process there's hundreds

1:49:59thousands maybe even names in this

1:50:01database

1:50:02to change how we process everything for

1:50:04so few names on this report would be

1:50:06very disruptive for us,

1:50:08>> Mr. Chair.

1:50:09>> Yes.

1:50:10>> Thank you. So, I appreciate that. I

1:50:12don't mind if it's in a separate report.

1:50:15I mean, I it's just the the information.

1:50:19>> Like I said, there's like 10 11 names

1:50:22here. Even if I mean, director Patillo,

1:50:25even if she was able to go into a system

1:50:28just to see the date, I mean, I don't

1:50:30think that date is is changing every

1:50:32week or every month, right? Like once

1:50:33someone goes on suspension with pay,

1:50:36they're on that until they either come

1:50:39back to full duty status or they go to

1:50:42admin leave without pay. So once that

1:50:45that um date is put on there, it's

1:50:47there. So I I'm just struggling with

1:50:52that this is difficult to do understood

1:50:55if it's difficult to get it into the

1:50:56automated report but I don't think this

1:50:59is something that would be should be

1:51:00challenging for us to receive

1:51:04>> through the chair I think officer

1:51:05banners has some additional information.

1:51:08Yes sir.

1:51:08>> Through the chair. Um BOPC Camille, I

1:51:11understand your frustration with this.

1:51:13So I took this on as a challenge about

1:51:15two weeks ago. Uh I think I will have

1:51:18some examples for you next week in

1:51:21regards to this report to where it all

1:51:23would make sense. Uh that would give you

1:51:25your answer. Uh but I do understand what

1:51:28the commander is talking about because

1:51:30it comes from so many different places.

1:51:32It's just somebody getting all that

1:51:34information and putting it onto one

1:51:36sheet. So, I'm trying to simplify that

1:51:38now, but I should be able to give you an

1:51:40example by next week and then we can

1:51:43maybe discuss how to fine-tune it from

1:51:45there.

1:51:47>> Thank you, Mr. Battersby. Through the

1:51:48chair.

1:51:49>> Yeah, through the chair. To add to what

1:51:51he said, he he just requested from us

1:51:54information on these cases and my office

1:51:56just supplied it to him on Monday. So,

1:51:57he's working on it.

1:51:59>> Okay. I'm all set, Mr. Chair. Thank you,

1:52:02>> Commissioner Williams.

1:52:03>> Yeah. I just through the chair with with

1:52:06all this

1:52:07high technology that we talk about

1:52:10having.

1:52:12I think that it would be kind of simple

1:52:14just to input the necessary data that

1:52:17we're searching for and it pops up like

1:52:20any other thing. I mean that's just me

1:52:23just just thinking. I could be wrong but

1:52:26with with you know the way the world is

1:52:28with again high technology

1:52:31expensive technology it shouldn't be

1:52:33that hard.

1:52:38Sorry batters me

1:52:40>> through the chair uh BOPC Williams. I

1:52:43understand what you're saying. You have

1:52:44to understand though there's so many

1:52:46different units that involves this. You

1:52:49have internal affairs, you have HR, you

1:52:52have disciplinary. So, and each unit

1:52:55does its own piece. So, like I said, by

1:52:58next week, I should have a somewhat

1:53:02comprehensive report for you guys that

1:53:04it'll make sense to you. And if it does,

1:53:06moving forward, this is what we'll

1:53:07utilize

1:53:09>> uh through the chair. I just use uh you

1:53:11know, simple spreadsheet that if I type

1:53:13in a a name, it's going to pull up all

1:53:16of the names. If I type in a street,

1:53:19it's going to pull up all of the

1:53:21streets. So, if you get my drift, if you

1:53:24type something in, all that information

1:53:26should be able to be there uh at your

1:53:29fingertips.

1:53:30>> Sir, I wish it was that easy.

1:53:32>> Um, you know, I I'm not in your shoes to

1:53:35see what you're looking at, but I'm just

1:53:37trying to use common sense when we talk

1:53:39about all of this. Again, high

1:53:42technology that we're supposed to be

1:53:44having, supposed to make the job a lot

1:53:46easier and quicker for everybody to

1:53:48access. And if we can't access that,

1:53:52then

1:53:54you know, it just makes me think other

1:53:56things could be altered, it doesn't give

1:53:59me a piece of mind when I want to be

1:54:01able to quickly access something. I can

1:54:03quickly go on Google and I can say,

1:54:05"Hey, um, how deep is the Detroit

1:54:08River?" And it just pops up within

1:54:11seconds and we can't get the same report

1:54:16and response in seconds. That's just

1:54:19>> understood. But this is a new request.

1:54:21So give us like I said, give me a week

1:54:23and let me give you an example of what I

1:54:25think will uh satisfy your needs and

1:54:29then we can go from there. That's

1:54:30>> and then I mean I feel like even with

1:54:32with the suspensions, all of the

1:54:33officers, the information should already

1:54:36be just there at the top. Um, and as

1:54:38they're loaded in the dates, you know,

1:54:40if they're going in order, the dates

1:54:42will be back to back to back as far as

1:54:44the date of suspension, so forth and so

1:54:47on.

1:54:48>> Sir, again, I wish it was that simple.

1:54:51>> Okay,

1:54:53>> you're all done, Commissioner. We

1:54:55>> I'm as done as I'm going to get right

1:54:57now.

1:54:58>> Thank you. Looking to my left, I don't

1:55:00see any hands. Uh, HR Director Patillo,

1:55:03thank you for your report, ma'am.

1:55:04>> Thank you.

1:55:07Now we'll move to the uh interim

1:55:11secretary report and that will be given

1:55:13by chief investigator Jerome Warfield

1:55:17>> through the chair. Thank you Mr. Chair

1:55:18and to the board members in your binders

1:55:20this week. You certainly have a number

1:55:23of correspondence that's in your binders

1:55:25and it's listed on the agenda, but the

1:55:27facial recognition report, shot spotted

1:55:29weekly report, DPD responses to BOPC

1:55:33inquiries regarding building 500 at the

1:55:36DDC, those metrics are in your report.

1:55:39October the 13, 2026 budget committee

1:55:42memorandum is also in your report in

1:55:45your binders as well as administration

1:55:47leave without pay uh information is in

1:55:50there. In the folder of your binders,

1:55:52you have two reports from the office of

1:55:54the chief of investigator. They are the

1:55:56August and the September case load

1:55:58reports and the progress that our office

1:56:00have been making as relates to uh

1:56:03investigating these cases. As deputy

1:56:06chief commander communicated to you

1:56:08earlier, um today we see we received in

1:56:11our office a number of responses from

1:56:14the questions that were made last

1:56:17meeting. We will all of those responses

1:56:20will be in your binder uh next week. The

1:56:23full reports will be there next week for

1:56:25you as well. But I do want you to know

1:56:26that the office of the the uh board of

1:56:28police commissioners office they uh we

1:56:31are in receipt of those items and

1:56:33certainly we thank uh the department for

1:56:35the swiftness in supplying those uh

1:56:37items with us. Additionally,

1:56:40you'll have in your binders for next

1:56:42week uh the question I believe that came

1:56:44up from Commissioner Carter regarding um

1:56:49the chief investigator's ability to

1:56:52serve as interim into a new secretary is

1:56:55uh picked. Uh that report has been given

1:56:59by the uh corporation council and uh

1:57:02that I believe it was emailed to

1:57:04everyone today and it will be in your

1:57:06binder for next week as well. As it

1:57:09relates to the next board meeting, next

1:57:11board meeting will be Thursday, October

1:57:13the 29th, 2026 at 3:00 p.m. right here

1:57:16at Detroit Public Safety Headquarters,

1:57:1913013rd

1:57:21Detroit, Michigan. Um and our next

1:57:24community meeting uh by the actions of

1:57:27this board today has been cancelled for

1:57:30November the 12th, 2026. Thank you.

1:57:35>> Thank you, sir.

1:57:36>> Any questions,

1:57:38>> Mr. Chairfield?

1:57:41>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um and thank you,

1:57:43chief investigator, for your thorough

1:57:46report. Um, in our binders, we have this

1:57:49flyer here regarding um the

1:57:51investigators posting. I like this. Um,

1:57:56I wanted to know if is there an

1:57:57electronic version of this? Is it being

1:58:00circulated on um the board social media

1:58:04channels

1:58:05>> through the chair? Um, all of you were

1:58:08emailed that um, flyer to in your email

1:58:12and um, we have to go through the city

1:58:14of Detroit in order for it to be posted

1:58:17to the board's website, but I believe it

1:58:19has been um, requested to be posted to

1:58:22the board's website, but you all have

1:58:24copies of it again in your electronic

1:58:27mailboxes.

1:58:29>> Thank you. Um, through the chair to

1:58:31chief investigator. And so will will

1:58:33this type of flyer be made for every

1:58:35time we have a posting

1:58:37>> as long as I'm in.

1:58:40>> All right.

1:58:45>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1:58:47>> Yes, ma'am.

1:58:49Looking to my left, I see no other

1:58:51hands. Thank you, Chief Warfield.

1:58:57I have nothing.

1:59:05unfinished business.

1:59:27>> Mr. Chairman, you can call a recess if

1:59:29you have information that Commissioner

1:59:32Watts and Commissioner Carter are going

1:59:34to return, but you can't go on to new

1:59:37business, which is the next section.

1:59:43>> For how long?

1:59:45>> Thank you, sir.

1:59:53You know what?

2:00:25All right. Thank you for the

2:00:27>> get to be 94. You all right?

2:00:29>> Are you all right?

2:00:30>> Thank you.

2:00:31>> All right. Thank you. We're back from

2:00:34recess. Thank you, Commissioner Bowman.

2:00:37>> Yeah. Um just a point of information

2:00:39prior to going into close session. I

2:00:40just um need to pass along um that a

2:00:44community member um Minister Eric Blunt

2:00:48has um confirmed that he made an error

2:00:50and that Alonzo Lee Perkins is alive.

2:00:54>> Thank you for that information, sir. And

2:00:56before I'm sorry, Madam Parliamentary,

2:00:58>> we had an issue before we go into close

2:01:00session.

2:01:01>> Correct.

2:01:01>> Personnel committee administrative

2:01:03assistant. So that after that then we go

2:01:06into close session.

2:01:07>> Right. And I know was that with you,

2:01:10Commissioner Bowman?

2:01:11>> Yeah.

2:01:11>> All right, sir.

2:01:16>> Okay. So, now I'd like to make a motion.

2:01:18This is on behalf of the personnel and

2:01:19training committee. Um, myself being the

2:01:22only member present, um, have been

2:01:24tasked with this motion. Um, by

2:01:27direction of the personnel and training

2:01:29committee, I move that the Detroit Board

2:01:31of Police Commissioners appoint Jerome

2:01:34Jackson to the position of

2:01:36administrative assistant to the board of

2:01:38police commissioners. In the event that

2:01:41Mr. Jackson declines the appointment, I

2:01:44further move that Monica Weathers be

2:01:46appointed as the alternate candidate for

2:01:49the position.

2:01:54the police commission.

2:01:58>> Okay. Uh there's a motion on the floor.

2:02:02I understand no second is needed.

2:02:05>> No second is required since it's a

2:02:06motion coming from a committee composed

2:02:08of more than one person.

2:02:10>> Is there any discussion on the motion?

2:02:12>> Yes, Mr. Chair.

2:02:13>> Yes, ma'am.

2:02:14>> Uh through you to Commissioner Bowman.

2:02:16Is this for the administrative assistant

2:02:18position?

2:02:20>> Correct. It's a motion to appoint

2:02:21administrative assistant to the board.

2:02:26We get the

2:02:28>> Yes, Commissioner Williams.

2:02:30>> Isn't that a hiring process?

2:02:34>> Um, excuse me.

2:02:36>> Isn't that

2:02:36>> It went through the committee personnel

2:02:38committee.

2:02:38>> Okay. Sorry.

2:02:39>> I assume uh again, Mr. Chair, through

2:02:42Commissioner Bowman, this is uh the

2:02:43result of the personnel committee making

2:02:45this moving the candidate forward for

2:02:47final approval.

2:02:49>> That is correct. Um, Vice Chair Watts,

2:02:52>> thank you.

2:02:54Looking to my right. No other hands.

2:02:56Looking to my left.

2:02:58>> Question. Mr. Chair.

2:03:00>> Yes.

2:03:01>> To the other committee. I see

2:03:02Commissioner Williams and maybe others

2:03:04still confused. Did you receive uh the

2:03:06write up or any background information

2:03:07on this candidate?

2:03:09>> I have not

2:03:13>> through the chair.

2:03:14>> Uh Commissioner Camille.

2:03:16>> Yeah, I that's what I was going to say.

2:03:18I don't unless I missed it. I don't

2:03:20recall seeing anything previously. Um,

2:03:23are the candidates here today by chance?

2:03:27>> To the best of my knowledge, no. We did

2:03:30interview all of the candidates in

2:03:32person. There were two candid the

2:03:34process was delayed because there were

2:03:35two candidates that um were interviewed

2:03:39by um Commissioner Ivy um and

2:03:44um Commissioner Woods and Vice

2:03:48um Chair Watts um in my absence. And I

2:03:52did review the recordings of those

2:03:54video, those two um interviews

2:03:56afterwards so we could make an informed

2:03:58decision on the entirety of the

2:04:00applicants.

2:04:02And we had a consensus

2:04:04>> with this motion

2:04:06>> uh through the chair. Can we delay this

2:04:08um for for more information?

2:04:10>> One week

2:04:14to postpone.

2:04:15>> Yeah. Can I uh make a motion to postpone

2:04:17this for one week,

2:04:19>> Mr. Chairman?

2:04:21Uh if the commissioner is making that

2:04:23motion for specific information, that

2:04:27should be included in the motion to

2:04:29postpone so that the committee will know

2:04:32what it is that the the board wants you

2:04:36to report back. Just by saying postpone,

2:04:39it does not provide direction to the

2:04:42committee. So if if that if you just

2:04:45want it postponed, that's one thing. But

2:04:47if you want it postponed because you

2:04:49want bios, resumes, whatever, that

2:04:54should be included in the motion so that

2:04:55the committee knows what it is the board

2:04:58wants by postponing this.

2:05:01>> Okay. Well, I'd like to postpone it for

2:05:03the application packet to review the

2:05:04application packet.

2:05:08>> Second.

2:05:10>> Thank you. So, we do have a motion on

2:05:12the floor that has been moved and

2:05:14supported uh by Commissioner Williams

2:05:16and seconded by uh Commissioner Camille.

2:05:20The motion is to postpone uh this action

2:05:23for say one week.

2:05:25>> Yes,

2:05:25>> one week. Is there any

2:05:29>> package? Thank you. Thank you, Madam

2:05:31Parliamentarian. And is there any

2:05:32discussion on the motion?

2:05:33>> Discussion, Mr. Chair?

2:05:35>> Yes, ma'am. Um, I would also recommend

2:05:39that the staff reach out to at least the

2:05:42primary applicant and ask if they will

2:05:45be willing to be present in the room um

2:05:49when we take this up next. Not for an

2:05:53interview. No, they've already been

2:05:54interviewed by the committee, but it

2:05:56will be good for them to be present.

2:06:00>> Request for clarification

2:06:03in the motion.

2:06:04>> Hold on, Commissioner Bowman. I'm sorry.

2:06:06I want to hear from the parliamentarian.

2:06:08>> Yeah. I'm trying to

2:06:11decide if that needs to be a second. I

2:06:13believe that should be a second motion.

2:06:14>> Okay.

2:06:16>> So, you need to vote on this. If this is

2:06:18adopted,

2:06:19>> the postponement,

2:06:21>> right? Then there can be another main

2:06:23motion that the staff be asked to ask

2:06:27the two individuals, Jerome Jackson and

2:06:31Monica Weathers, to attend next week's

2:06:34meeting. But that doesn't make sense if

2:06:36this motion does not pass.

2:06:39>> Okay.

2:06:39>> Thank you. So,

2:06:42we have the motion. We've had

2:06:43discussion. Uh all in favor of the

2:06:46motion, please indicate by saying I.

2:06:48>> I.

2:06:48>> I.

2:06:49>> I.

2:06:50>> Opposed.

2:06:52Motion does carry.

2:06:54>> The motion to postpone.

2:06:56>> Yes. The motion to postpone does carry.

2:06:58Right now, if commissioner uh wants to

2:07:01make the motion that the staff be asked,

2:07:04that would be in order at this time.

2:07:07>> Motion, Mr. Chair.

2:07:09>> Commissioner Camille.

2:07:10>> Thank you. I move that we direct the

2:07:13staff to reach out to Jerome Jackson and

2:07:16Monica Weathers and request their

2:07:18presence at the next meeting.

2:07:22>> Support.

2:07:24>> Thank you. Is there any discussion on

2:07:25the motion?

2:07:27hearing none. All in favor of the

2:07:29motion, please indicate by saying I. I.

2:07:31I.

2:07:32>> Any oppose?

2:07:33>> That motion does carry.

2:07:37>> Thank you.

2:07:39At this time, we will be uh entering

2:07:42into close session.

2:07:47>> Need a motion.

2:07:48>> Shar will entertain a motion to enter uh

2:07:50enter into close session.

2:07:52>> Support. Thank you. It has been moved

2:07:54and supported uh that the uh board now

2:07:57move into close session. Is there any

2:07:59discussion on the motion?

2:08:01Hearing none. All in favor?

2:08:03>> I.

2:08:04>> Any oppose?

2:08:06>> Motion does carry to go into close

2:08:07session. 2 minutes.

2:08:13All right, we are back to order.

2:08:18>> Roll call vote. I'm sorry. Roll call.

2:08:21I'm sorry. Chief Warfield

2:08:24>> through the chair. Uh, Commissioner

2:08:26Jones

2:08:27>> parent present.

2:08:28>> Commissioner Watts

2:08:28>> here.

2:08:29>> Commissioner Bowman

2:08:30>> present.

2:08:31>> Commissioner Camille

2:08:32>> present.

2:08:33>> Commissioner DeWalsh

2:08:34>> present.

2:08:35>> Commissioner Williams

2:08:36>> present.

2:08:36>> So you have a quorum.

2:08:38>> Thank you, sir.

2:08:41Do we need to ask or we're good with the

2:08:43people in the room from the staff?

2:08:46>> Thank you very much.

2:08:48>> All right.

2:08:49>> We need them.

2:08:51need.

2:08:56>> All right. So,

2:08:56>> so the first item would be a motion

2:08:59>> for the first

2:09:00>> to approve or deny the appeal

2:09:02>> of the first case

2:09:03>> uh on Deontay Wllo.

2:09:05>> Um Mr. Chair, I make the motion that we

2:09:10uh accept the recommendation of the

2:09:14chief and deny the um appeal of Deontay

2:09:19Woodllo. Second.

2:09:22>> It has been um moved and supported uh

2:09:25that we accept the report of the police

2:09:28chief regarding Deonte Wardlow. Is there

2:09:31any discussion on the motion?

2:09:34Hearing none. All in favor of the

2:09:35motion, please indicate by saying I.

2:09:37>> I.

2:09:39>> Any nos?

2:09:40>> No.

2:09:41>> Motion does carry. Thank you.

2:09:45>> Next. Next case.

2:09:51>> There's a hand, Mr. Chair.

2:09:54>> Is this pertinent to

2:09:57>> I I believe we're on item B.

2:09:59>> We're not on item B yet. We're getting

2:10:02to item B.

2:10:03>> Oh.

2:10:10Okay.

2:10:12So, this is the one regarding uh Kegler.

2:10:17>> Now, his hands up.

2:10:18>> Yes, sir.

2:10:20>> Yeah. I move that we um the department

2:10:25um put um Disha Kegler on administrative

2:10:30leave with pay but with medical benefits

2:10:34pending the outcome outcome of the court

2:10:38case.

2:10:39>> You mean pay I'm sorry.

2:10:40>> Isn't that her current status?

2:10:42>> Yes.

2:10:42>> Yes.

2:10:43>> So there would be no need for a motion

2:10:45to continue her current status.

2:10:46>> Correct.

2:10:48>> Do you mean without pay? Commissioner,

2:10:50>> she's she on paid

2:10:53>> currently getting paid.

2:10:54>> Yeah.

2:10:54>> Yes.

2:10:55>> Okay.

2:10:56>> Oh,

2:10:57>> okay. Well, I guess um a motion to deny

2:11:01the request to suspend without pay.

2:11:07>> Wait, say that again, sir.

2:11:09Then I I then I suppose a better wording

2:11:11would be to say that I move to um

2:11:17reject the um chief's request to put the

2:11:22um put Disha Kegler on administrative

2:11:25leave without pay but with medical

2:11:27benefits.

2:11:27>> So So the motion is to deny the request

2:11:31to change her status from with pay and

2:11:36that she be suspended without pay.

2:11:38Right.

2:11:38>> But with medical benefits.

2:11:40>> Correct.

2:11:41>> Is

2:11:41>> that what you're trying to say?

2:11:42>> Yes.

2:11:43>> Okay.

2:11:44>> Is there support for the motion?

2:11:48>> Is there support for the motion?

2:11:51>> Motion's lost for one of a second.

2:11:53>> Right. All right.

2:11:56Thank you.

2:11:57>> Yes, ma'am.

2:11:57>> I need a motion to approve the request.

2:11:59>> The recommendation. Yes. Is there a

2:12:03motion to approve the recommendation?

2:12:05May I make a motion to uh approve the

2:12:07recommendation?

2:12:08>> I support.

2:12:09>> All right. It has been moved and

2:12:10supported that we approve the

2:12:12recommendation

2:12:13>> that is before us. Is there any

2:12:15discussion on the motion?

2:12:18>> Hearing none. All in favor of the

2:12:19motion, please.

2:12:20>> By I

2:12:21>> I

2:12:21>> I.

2:12:22>> Any oppose?

2:12:23>> Nay.

2:12:24>> Motion does carry. Thank you.

2:12:28Looking I see nothing else

2:12:32that requires this board attention. Move

2:12:34for adjournment. Support.

2:12:36>> I'm sorry, Deputy Chief.

2:12:43>> Use the mic.

2:12:44>> Oh, your mic.

2:12:47>> I did have opportunity to talk to uh

2:12:48Deputy Chief Bliss about the temperature

2:12:50report. It might be an error. Uh so

2:12:52we're going to make sure to take a look

2:12:53at it and then get you more of an

2:12:55explanation so you can understand what

2:12:56the building 500 temperature report is.

2:12:58But this is in regards to the uh Detroit

2:13:00Detention Center building 500 report.

2:13:02>> Thank you so much. Yes, ma'am.

2:13:04>> Thank you. Anything else?

2:13:06>> We do have a motion to adjurnn.

2:13:08>> All in favor?

2:13:09>> I oppose. Motion carries.

2:13:13>> Thank you.

2:13:16>> Thank you.

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