2026-10-21 - Planning Board

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  • Opening: The Chair called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. and took a motion on prior minutes; the dates are garbled.
  • Pet boarding definition: Staff and members worked on a zoning definition for pet boarding, daycare, overnight stays, training and grooming, and whether it should cover cats as well as dogs. See Kennel and Pet Boarding Zoning Definition.
  • Cattle on a small lot: At a public hearing, the Board considered adding cattle to an existing livestock special permit and agreed on up to three, then walked through its findings. See Livestock Special Permit Cattle Amendment.
  • Zoning bylaw review: Members compared the residential district text with sections borrowed from a neighboring town's bylaw, and discussed which sections to keep, where to place definitions, and which boards should review projects. Large parts of this stretch are crosstalk and cannot be summarized reliably.
  • The recording ends in static, so any later business, final votes and the adjournment are not captured.

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00:00Okay, 8 being 6.30, I'll call this meeting to order and open for a motion to approve the minutes of November 1st, October 7th, October 7th, October 7th, October 7th, I'll call the motion for that.

00:31I'll second.

00:36I'll second.

00:37I'll second.

01:08So, staff updates, by speeding, changes, and then suddenly again, you have this company, right?

01:43I've got a few comments and I don't know.

01:46Okay, cut.

01:49What was the specific one?

01:54What was the specific one when it comes to definition of the county?

01:58It's limited to dogs, to those in Worcester. There's plenty of lots of people. Dogs and cats. People with domestic cats, domestic pets.

02:14And they did also send the rule language picked on, got there forever to be updated.

02:21Yeah, well I'll just like to pick that up today.

02:26Yeah, people.

02:28I'll just go get that.

02:30That would be, that would raise some eyebrows and somebody would send them out something.

02:42What are you doing about that storage stuff that you're doing?

02:46Yeah.

02:47The grooming is a big part of selling.

02:53It's how you make your money sometimes.

02:56I did the addition to the barcode in through 20.

03:02Oh, did you?

03:03Yeah.

03:04And they put the back in there for each group. Each, these, not all of these rooms, they have closer to TV that their owners could look at, watch their dogs through today.

03:16They got regular TV, they could put TV shows on, and they could talk to their dogs through the large screen TVs in every room.

03:24They do grooming, they'll do training, some training stuff.

03:30It's a double spot.

03:32It's a double spot.

03:34And it's just a spot for the dogs.

03:36Well, it's day-cuted.

03:38Nothing you want to say, but we'll get back to you next week after we go on to the public.

03:43So it says overnight stay, some training of dogs, domestic pets.

03:51Yes.

03:53Yes, and it could be like any parent.

04:04Very, yeah.

04:06Certainly cats, because lots of people who have dogs also have cats.

04:11And it's like the campus of the owner of any such dog or, I would say, any such pet.

04:17How do you say domestic pets, because if you need family, you'll get domestic pets in it.

04:22Yeah.

05:13Yes, it's under soil reports report by boarding.

05:21The sun hurts.

05:28What?

05:34It's over.

05:36So food, there's more definitions.

05:37I agree.

05:38Food boarding, if you put away for the weekend, you leave your dog for something for two days.

05:42Yeah.

05:43You know, but it's suddenly going to belong.

05:44Are they important?

05:45Right, I mean, so I can't find the definitions.

05:51Okay.

05:52I think it should be one of the first things in the table.

05:57Yeah.

05:59That's where we're moving the definitions to.

06:00So here we go.

06:01So it says, establishing use of boarding, holding, here we're on stage for training.

06:02Pets, property of the owner of the establishment.

06:03Of such services.

06:04Okay.

06:05Okay.

06:06Okay.

06:07Okay.

06:08I think it should be one of the first things in the table.

06:09Yeah.

06:11That's where we're moving the definitions to.

06:12Okay.

06:15So here we go.

06:17So it says, establishing use of boarding, holding, here we're on stage for training.

06:21Pets, property of the owner of the establishment.

06:22Of such services.

06:23Okay.

06:24Okay.

06:25Okay.

06:26Okay.

06:28So here we go.

06:49Okay.

07:13Okay.

07:31Okay.

08:03You can never define that as a single use. It's a multi-use thing. So I think we didn't say we'd like to put that in.

08:11Yeah, and that's why I don't understand. It's an establishment use for boarding, faulting, taking, and all the night studies.

08:36Breathing, training, grooming, all those things. They're all things they do.

08:43Yeah, some do something, some don't. A lot of them don't do breeding, but the other one doesn't.

08:51They can. And you're going to breed you into training. You go to the pest store, the harps program, and you go to Petco.

09:06Also, the Petco's got a grooming component. Yeah, but if someone came in and it was allowed in a channel, it was allowed so,

09:17someone came in, just wants to do grooming, just to groom. So that's fine. It would be considered a kennel.

09:24It's a kennel definition. The way we're going to write it, it will be. And I think that's the way it should be.

09:33Or you can add a certain definition for it. Basically, the only thing we can establish, we'll determine the head risk.

09:40Right. But I think a kennel, a grooming is what I always think a kennel would have.

09:49They don't always. I used to go to Lex parents. I boarded my pants there. But also, that's where they just go and add a little shelf to the floor.

10:06Yeah, but I mean, you could bring a cat and you'd want to get to bed. A lot of people don't want to go to a dense cause. And you go and you start to kennel, and they get to crosslet.

10:16Well, they did that, but I also think some of them have a retail component, too. But they certainly, if they're a kennel, one thing they definitely do is breed.

10:31And then you sell your dogs or cats.

10:36By the way, I think there's a retail component that's generally going to be rolled up behind them.

10:44But like I said, you can always use, if it's a multifaceted thing, so it's different and unique, you can always use something like 5-0-9-1.

10:54Well, we've got with them, we've also got in here, you know, the special equipment.

11:01Yeah. If it's not listed in the new Jennifer permanent.

11:06Because some things are unique, and they'll never fit into one little category.

11:13I know what I'm going to ask you after. I have something for you guys that you'll do with all the instances out there. You're already done, so don't forget.

11:28But I might throw a mic around if you might do it.

11:31So that is simple, you can say.

11:34And I don't care if they're the property of the owner.

11:39Because one of them would be a home-based business owner.

11:47It says property at a home.

11:48It says if the status for you is reporting, holding, daycare, overnight, two stays, retraining of dogs that are not the property of the owner of the establishment.

11:57Why do we care? It's got to be. Who cares?

12:00Well, see, he's got the client there.

12:04If you train it, you can always be a breeder. If you train it in your own dogs, if only a three-year-old wants you to hold on to patients.

12:12So you can do this job.

12:13Where a county is coming out, you can define where you're going to have a capital.

12:20Then we're saying that they can breed.

12:21So, they're pretty safe, he's done.

12:25This will breed, and so, yeah.

12:27It's okay because it's just one of the uses that you can do at that location.

12:31That's the thing, Mike.

12:36Nothing such as you can't bring in.

12:39Someone else is calling you to breed them, yeah.

12:43Generally, that's what you're going to do.

12:45Yes. Otherwise, you'll make the assist.

12:48Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't have to do that.

13:03Ken, I was going to be this straight forward.

13:10You should be a contestant.

13:12I mean, yeah. This wording, we had to take it from somewhere.

13:18So thank you.

13:41So if someone's going to take them out to be in the absence of your review,

13:46yes, you're going to train them.

13:48You've got to be there.

13:49You've got to be there.

13:50Yeah.

13:52Okay, so, the purpose of this person, the purpose of hearing, of course, is to pull forward.

14:04So in May 645, I'm in court to provision Master General Law, Chapter 48, Section 11,

14:11the Self-Defining Board will hold a public hearing on Wednesday, October 1st.

14:19It takes at 6.50 p.m. Powerball for an out-of-the-street Selfish Mass.

14:25For self-defining public hearing, it's considered an amendment.

14:28Your special permit application is called on Kate Johnson.

14:31You will offer high stock property under five acres per table of one's scheduled uses.

14:36So, Self-Defining By-law located at 16 Ellis Road Map, 12 o'clock, London G, K, J.

14:44The application will be reviewed to a number of hours at the time of the work.

14:49For a self-departure majority, they have a view of WWE, we're done.

14:53California's gotten help, and on mass, public notices don't work.

14:56If you are in the application, it should appear at the tire and dust, that's it.

15:01Sure.

15:03It's the HR case.

15:05Okay, what you're going to do?

15:07Yes, and I'm sorry that I'm Mr. Les.

15:11Here's Les, so, sorry, I'm losing this time.

15:14Okay, so the plan is to get a cow-calf care, raise that for me, actually.

15:24That's it.

15:27Yeah, I think there was already a cow.

15:31I haven't said it's been there for a long time.

15:33I didn't even say I'm here.

15:35I wasn't part of the original plan.

15:38No, no, I don't think I'm for you.

15:40Right.

15:41The creative side of him, she raised.

15:44Yeah, it's kind of now in confidence, and that's the thing, I figured everything should be good.

15:48So, you should go--

15:49We've got to go get this the whole time.

15:51The thing is, it was a little different because--

15:53It's nothing to do with you, but I love goats.

16:02Yeah, I know goats. They're eating grass.

16:06Yeah, they're running.

16:09Go take them out.

16:10You have goats also?

16:11Yes.

16:12Yeah, I remember how to go there.

16:19That's what she wants.

16:20That's what Amy wants.

16:21She wants to do exactly what she's doing.

16:23You want to say it for you?

16:26For you?

16:27For you?

16:28For you?

16:29Okay.

16:32So, what else do you have besides goats and cows?

16:35Just chickens.

16:36Your whole area is to extend and take care of a little shelter.

16:40Yeah.

16:41You have your legs up and running.

16:44I have a thought there.

16:45Well, don't you think that we should include all of the animals?

16:49I think we already did in the last anyway.

16:53If we did, we wouldn't be in this position.

16:55I don't know if we did.

16:56I think we should be in the standards.

16:58How many people potentially--

16:59Everything that you think you're thinking about and that you do.

17:02But I don't think you're allowed to get it for some reason, right?

17:07No, but we didn't want the goats, no pigs.

17:09You didn't want them, but we--

17:11In a five-acre parcel, we're more.

17:15I don't think we could say--

17:16No, I can't.

17:17--persistence up here.

17:18Right.

17:20Probably you wouldn't want pigs.

17:21She lived, of course.

17:22Yeah, I would.

17:23But not probably ever, of course.

17:27I was considering asking about donkeys.

17:30Can we have donkeys on there?

17:32To probably--

17:33I don't see what happens.

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17:39Who did?

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18:00Right.

18:01That's funny.

18:02The thing of it is they're small.

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18:06They're small, and they're lovely, but they are lovely.

18:09So I don't know how close your neighbors are,

18:13but that would be a concern.

18:16They can be very loud.

18:17So thank you all.

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19:05And the other things we're saying are already allowed because it was last.

19:16So we're amending the existing special permit to add cows.

19:21To allow out the form.

19:27I mean, permission would be great.

19:28I don't see myself having more than two, but permission would be great.

19:32I'll just, I'll just, I'll take my daughter and it goes.

19:37They take quite a bit of risk.

19:39Yeah, they do.

19:41Okay, so if we do it, she's actually four feet.

19:45And then the special permit, make a motion to any public area, any public area.

19:51No results, no comment.

19:53Any other comments here?

19:55Okay, we're going to stick with two.

19:57Yeah, I'll take it.

19:59Close to two and three.

20:03We could get through a three.

20:04Okay, three.

20:05We could actually get through a three.

20:07Up to three.

20:08Up to three.

20:09To allow up to three cattle.

20:12So we have to close the public.

20:18We close it.

20:20We close it.

20:22We close it.

20:28I make a motion to close the public.

20:31Second.

20:33Discussion.

20:34We're in non-public favor.

20:36Close.

20:39I make a motion to amend the special permit for 16 endless road.

20:45To allow for up to three cattle.

20:49Both lines.

20:51Up to three both lines.

20:54Three both lines on the existing block.

21:01In addition to the previous animals that are in the block.

21:07I'll take that motion to send it.

21:11Okay, this is going to be boring, so we have to make findings more to improvement.

21:22So first of all, the users at Harmony with a general purpose and intent of the Bible.

21:28And what is the Bible?

21:32Whatever it is.

21:34The last group.

21:37It's a table.

21:40Table one.

21:41Table uses.

21:42Politics.

21:45It's under a certain number.

21:52It's five acres.

21:55Yes.

21:56Okay, I'll just say that.

21:58To allow five livestock under five acres.

22:01Yep.

22:03And we have the Bible.

22:05We have the Bible.

22:06You apply it into the Bible.

22:07The use is an appropriate location and is not detrimental to the neighborhood.

22:13It does not significantly alter the character of the zoning district.

22:19Livestock has previously existed on the property.

22:25No neighbors were present for this.

22:27And no neighbors were present to argue against.

22:32Three, adequate and appropriate facilities will be provided.

22:35You have a firing.

22:38Yep.

22:40Four, the proposed use will not be detrimental or otherwise offensive

22:45to the adjoining zoning districts,

22:48neighboring properties due to the effects of lighting, odor, smoke,

22:52noise, sewage, refuse materials or visual or other nuisances.

22:59So I think that sounds right.

23:03In addition to the up to three, both items is activated.

23:06Yes.

23:07They'll move.

23:09The proposed use will not cause undue traffic congestion.

23:14No traffic is involved.

23:16The other two centers that go second house.

23:21So when do you have a little trailer or don't do people deliver?

23:25Undeliverable.

23:26The proposed use is consistent with the Southbridge Master Plan.

23:32Yes.

23:33Because the Southbridge Master Plan encourages single family use.

23:40And this is a single school.

23:42I don't know what else to say.

23:46Because I don't think we actually listed that.

23:49And the Northbridge Master Plan also addresses indicating an agriculture

23:56that exists in the area.

23:58Yes.

23:59And these cards are going to be for milk.

24:01Beef.

24:04Beef, okay, for meat.

24:08Good.

24:10And you also have eggs.

24:12And it's a huge one.

24:13Yes, it does.

24:14And the final one is, any other finding expressly required,

24:20but I don't think there is one.

24:22No, they're not.

24:26Those are the findings.

24:33No, they're not.

24:34No.

24:35They will write it off.

24:36They sign it.

24:37They post it.

24:39They raise.

24:41That's a case in your name.

24:44Is there one in time?

24:45Big comments.

24:46Go ahead.

24:47No, it wouldn't, right?

24:51It's not from Massachusetts.

24:52Not from Massachusetts.

24:54No, I don't think it is.

24:56[LAUGHTER]

24:57[INTERPOSING VOICES]

24:58What do you want to talk about, though, is they're not setting it up.

25:00Can I just set one in with a return envelope?

25:03It hasn't been set back.

25:04Good.

25:07It was recorded probably for a reason.

25:09Well, so keep the coffee.

25:15Okay.

25:17Yeah, we keep the coffee, so.

25:18Yeah.

25:20We keep the coffee.

25:21Yeah, we keep the coffee.

25:22Yeah, because here, this just said it.

25:23We took off the lotion.

25:24We got it.

25:25The paper said it didn't sink out.

25:27And it was the rock.

25:30Okay.

25:32They're very-- go ahead.

25:35Good.

25:37Go ahead.

25:38My daughter used to-- she would have a-- she would have a little--

25:45They're no heifers there.

25:52Oh.

25:53No.

25:55So Jess, there's these.

25:57She used to--

25:58They're the cutest things, though.

26:00She used to.

26:01Once she had one of those in four months, they would be--

26:08And she sold, because she raised them on really good feed.

26:15So what she had was called Rosefield, an expensive restaurant.

26:22Yeah, I mean, pretty much the British kind of thing.

26:28You'd want to let the--

26:29I could tell.

26:30You'd want to let the little guy nurse for those four months.

26:33Oh, yeah, you'd have to buy paint those, too.

26:37Then she used to.

26:38I guess.

26:39Very cutest cats.

26:40She lived near New York City.

26:42Oh, yeah.

26:43Rosefield.

26:44She lived in Overland, too.

26:45Yeah.

26:46She was part of that location.

26:50Also, you got the entry courses at the restaurant field today.

26:55Today?

26:56Crossroads and--

26:57Oh, that's great.

26:58What do you think, Bernie?

27:02Well, we've never heard of Crossroads.

27:05We've driven by one program.

27:07It's not the natural one.

27:08So you're going to finish that.

27:13Oh, we do want to go.

27:15Go ahead.

27:17Thank you.

27:18Thank you.

27:19Yeah.

27:21Well, the next day is reading, reading, or training of domestic pets at which sub-services

27:30are granted in exchange for consideration.

27:32Whoever count will should not include an animal control facility or a pet shop license under

27:37national laws for 20, or September 29, Section 39A.

27:42Very good.

27:43Perfect.

27:44So I'm going to give that to Amy.

27:48And then what else do we have that your--

27:52Well, guys, this is the bi-actical, because we're working through it.

27:57And this is the lady gave us a couple of weeks ago that I was doing.

28:02What confused me was that this is the silver as a bracelet.

28:05Right.

28:06It was the home of the state's presidential development, where I aged seven or something.

28:16Eight.

28:17So I should have made eight.

28:19I don't know.

28:20The state's presidential development.

28:21And what 80 gave us didn't match up with what I had in my working lunch.

28:32We had this at some point in time.

28:40I didn't read this, but I'm almost out of the reading.

29:05Residential, suburban, residential, special-use districts, if you don't have them.

29:10Yeah.

29:12In our stuff.

29:13They just make it totally different.

29:17That did get changed.

29:18I remember-- I remember modifying that to this.

29:21Yeah.

29:26So let me take copies of that to insert in our package.

29:34And you could probably-- you could probably--

29:40So very grateful.

29:43Yeah, I remember doing this.

29:46Which one is that?

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30:54Just in a killer forest.

31:42And, you know, just one other thing.

31:45So I had this residential single family as a business.

32:01You still have-- this is a-- do you know who I know?

32:05Where is this one?

32:06It's me.

32:17It's in Utah.

32:20Don't worry.

32:22We'll do a family district.

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33:05In any residential district, you can't see the old one.

33:08And suburban residential, the one over there, has--

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33:20Yes.

33:21So this is the one--

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33:37How far does that go?

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33:40Oh, yes.

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34:34Well, this one here, we're going to just--

34:36I know we changed originally, and it might not have been caught.

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34:44We started--

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34:47We started a few.

34:49The first part of it.

34:50But then we went into the actual--

34:53in other words, this part was how we were going to do it.

34:56But then the beat of the actual one was allowed and not allowed.

34:59We went to certain reach.

35:01So it was a combination of two, is what I remember.

35:03And we modified this right here to do this.

35:06Then we went into the-- we only went a few sections then.

35:12And then we said, wait a minute.

35:14This obviously makes sense.

35:16And then we went and modified the Sturbridge one.

35:19That's what I remember.

35:20[INTERPOSING VOICES]

35:23Because I think we went until we started getting into that meeting.

35:27It was allowed.

35:28It wasn't allowed.

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35:34Because we had a whole section of Sturbridge,

35:36a separate document, that we added by accident.

35:40I want to know that.

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35:47I think we did the beginning.

35:49If you look at section one, go into the beginning here.

35:52Look at what Mike had.

35:54And then when it started getting into--

35:58right after that, after the first paragraph and stuff like that--

36:04because I remember changing this out to the residential systems.

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36:10I remember changing that.

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36:26Yeah.

36:28We went there.

36:29We went down there.

36:30And I keep scrolling down a little bit.

36:31And then we jumped from there to, I think, right after that beginning.

36:39And then we started editing.

36:41And then we said, wait a minute.

36:43Let's look at Sturbridge.

36:44And we went back.

36:45And right after that initial front page right there, we went to Sturbridge's.

36:49Not a fight Sturbridge.

36:59Because Sturbridge one was a little bit more than a fact.

37:04But they didn't have a lot of them.

37:06The changes that we were looking at doing, it was more direct.

37:21[INTERPOSING VOICES]

37:27Scroll down a little bit here.

37:39Yeah.

37:40Right there.

37:42Because I remember making these changes here.

37:48So there's--

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37:50--the residential--

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37:52Oh, yeah.

37:54This is-- that is the one--

37:56That's the one where they've got to get changed right there,

37:59this beginning part.

38:03Up of it, too, with everything else.

38:05That's all goes with what Michael has.

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38:56Well, the thing is, on a design process,

39:00we really want to go through, on a development point of view,

39:05we would say, OK, hey, what is going to be in a design that's

39:09going to be able to get approved?

39:11Is this a special part to me?

39:13And we have the authority.

39:14So it is nice to have that up front,

39:16because then you can make your--

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39:21Yeah, I agree.

39:22But they can also argue the fact that design process, hey,

39:25I can't afford this.

39:27And that's where you can have that conversation.

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39:50And then--

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39:56Yeah, we started going through here.

39:58And then we jumped out of this at one point.

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40:04We jumped out of this.

40:06I think we jumped out of it right here.

40:08I see this one right here.

40:11Observation analysis and findings.

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40:17There's not an end because I was looking at distance.

40:19I was, wait a minute.

40:22It's too much.

40:23And that's when we jumped over to the surface one,

40:27the discussion regulations.

40:29So I think it's the first--

40:31Yeah.

40:35I think it's the first section from, I think it's section seven, 7.12.

40:43>> Okay. >> Special regulations.

40:47>> Right into, I don't think we had the analysis, any of this, because we took it out, took it out.

40:53So, right to this point, we didn't include 7.14.

40:57I think it's only 7.1, 7.1 to 7.2.

41:13There are the two from this one right here, I think.

41:18And that we went from there, because I know we didn't like the concept.

41:23We promised all the software, and then we took that out.

41:26Then we went to basic requirements, and that's where we went to start.

41:29We went to basic requirements, and we went through the concepts.

41:33>> Yeah, I remember that now.

41:35>> I remember getting through here.

41:37We did start, we went farther, but then we said, wait a minute.

41:41We're just, none of this really makes sense to us at the end, and we brought certain things.

41:49>> Okay, you're including, just one or two, you're not including conservation analysis findings.

42:06>> I think you're losing 8.14, I think that's true.

42:10>> Yeah, I think so, you just take it out, 7.1 and 7.2 from here, and insert, insert it in, and you want me to-

42:19>> [INAUDIBLE]

42:36>> It must take a long time, we're working to help you.

42:40>> Yeah, this next video, the best.

42:51>> Yeah, so we're making a little bit of a mess.

42:53>> [INAUDIBLE]

44:49>> My thing is, this building's got to ultimately give the building this argument for us, so it's almost decent.

45:07>> And it couldn't be a little bit of a conflict type of thing.

45:15If you're facilitating it in an issue, what's up to this?

45:19>> [INAUDIBLE]

45:25>> Front page, right side, right here, with the blue.

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46:39>> This office right here, so why can't we just say the whole, yeah, I don't know about it again.

46:51>> I would say I could develop it in planning.

46:54>> Because it can involve the conservation, but it mostly is land use.

46:59>> And it could be zoning, and it could be-

47:01>> And zoning, so it would be-

47:02>> And the thing is, this office could facilitate more for the boards versus the building inspectors.

47:11>> And that would be the fair thing to do.

47:18>> And then notice that it's just the zoning, it solves it, so that it makes sense.

47:43>> Okay, so I just want to be honest, I thought we were going to get this accepted.

47:52>> Okay, okay, all right, I don't think that they send out suggested bylaws after their deadline, and I wouldn't know more about getting their deadline.

47:59>> The whole idea is that all these things start at the same time, all the boards and their boards start again.

48:10>> Yes, right.

48:12>> There isn't one after the other, it's like, you all do it.

48:15>> So, I think so, it's like, okay, we're just going to do it.

48:29>> We've never gone more than that, and you don't, even with anything.

48:34So, I mean, I don't even think-

48:36>> That's actually not true.

48:40When for quite a few years, we would interface with the historical commission, and it's to remember we wanted to make sure that project that we were working on didn't have historical significance that would make a difference in how we moved forward on it.

49:11>> I don't think we'd ever have a bunch of weight on it, but it didn't mean that we took long enough, it doesn't mean I'll put it this way.

49:20I permitted the biggest, some of the biggest sites in Eastern Pass, and it never took over a year during the dollar process.

49:29>> There's only one that was long, and that was the coffee one, because it was just such a good taste.

49:41>> Yeah, so we're going to just change this to the new zones, the chart here, section four chart, because we're going to incorporate this separately.

50:01>> Did we send this on operating?

50:03>> We did, so we really got to keep this in separate deadline, right?

50:10We already discussed this, it's probably the public hearing.

50:13>> We can change it.

50:16>> We can change it, we're going to put it in the practice together, yeah.

50:22>> We can do that.

50:24>> After we're receiving, are you saying?

50:29>> After Russia is through.

50:31>> Yeah, Russia is the same included.

50:34>> Yeah, I think so, it's B1, B2, and I think so, yeah.

50:44We already used to change it once on twice.

50:48Companies are going to be wanting to hear from our group cats, and can't take the ball.

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51:03>> Yes, we've got it in, we've got it in, we've got it in, and it's actually in each other.

51:12>> So this is the same annual one, but so they're very preliminary, they're not as many.

51:23>> Three trees, where?

51:28>> Three, so I'm going to compare it here.

51:35>> Well, it's just, it may, it's not, definitely, it's your name.

51:40>> It's your name?

51:41>> Definitely full extent.

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51:53>> Yeah, it's right next to the floor.

51:54>> Pull this cup.

51:56>> It's only piece of land, it could be.

51:58>> Yeah, I think, okay.

52:01>> I sent the order.

52:03>> I'm going to check this against what we have done before.

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52:24>> The main focus, again, is back on this, get this right, have that included, bring that to life.

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53:07>> So what you added in here was more state things, you said?

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