2026-09-24 - City Council

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  • Council President Merkl presided; Councilor Prosniewski was absent.
  • Public comment: one resident said the agenda backup materials are hard to find (Beverly and Peabody offer a one-click package), pointed to repeated duplicate pages in this week's packet, and called the Skipper agenda item too thin on dollars and contract terms. A Harborview Terrace resident asked for gas leaf blower restrictions, a summer break from landscaping noise between Memorial Day and Labor Day, and Sundays off.
  • Hearings, all granted by voice vote: National Grid conduits on Bridge Street at the MBTA station (121 feet), on Naples Road (about 5 feet; a neighbor asked for more information) and on Web Street for new construction at 21 Web Street; and Go Net Speed underground fiber on Jefferson Avenue (about 235 feet, between poles 34 and 32), which said it plans to bring fiber broadband to Salem.
  • Appointments confirmed by roll call, 10-0, to the Bicycling and Shared Path Advisory Committee, Race Equity Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals, plus four board reappointments; a Food Policy Council appointment was also confirmed. Several other appointments and reappointments were held under the rules, and a Zero Waste Salem appointment was received and filed.
  • Prior fiscal year payments approved 10-0 by roll call: $10,768.48 for retroactive pay for three school employees under a union agreement, $900.81 for a delayed National Grid invoice (Parking Department) and $330 for an outstanding police detail invoice (Engineering).
  • Salem Skipper Ride Share Contract: an order authorizing a 5-year contract with Via Transportation for the on-demand Skipper service was adopted by voice vote after debate over how little information was provided. Davis said a MassDOT grant keeps service running until at least June 30, 2027 and the 5-year term allows periodic extensions subject to funding. Holappa and Flynn said they lacked enough information. Varela also introduced an order for the Administration and Finance Committee to discuss the program and contract.
  • The Hazard Mitigation Plan Update was adopted, and a revised mission statement for the sustainability committee was received and filed.
  • A resolution honoring retiring City Clerk Eileen Simons for more than 25 years of city service was adopted 10-0 by roll call.
  • Andrew Smith moved referral of an administrative review process for disability-related Reasonable Accommodations Administrative Review in zoning to committee; carried.
  • Flynn gave notice of a motion to suspend the rules on October 8 to take a vote on reconsidering the September 10 City Seal Task Force decision (City Seal Reconsideration).
  • Committee reports: the living wage requirement matter was discharged from committee (Living Wage Requirement Ordinance Amendment); the camping ordinance review stays in committee (Public Camping Ordinance Amendments).
  • Veterans Agent Kim Emerling's request to name a new veterans square O'Neal Square, at Lafayette Street and College Drive in Ward 7, for an Army captain was adopted. The temporary Dodge Street one-way trial was tabled so businesses and residents could be notified (Dodge Street Temporary Traffic Ordinance), and the order designating taxi and ride share pickup and drop-off locations was adopted by voice vote.
  • Data Centers Zoning Ordinance: the Planning Board report was received and filed. On Varela's motion for first passage, an amendment limiting the definition to uses with an aggregate power demand of 2 megawatts or higher was adopted; Holappa opposed it, and members raised noise, heat and greenhouse gas concerns. The ordinance passed first passage as amended by roll call, 9-1 (Holappa opposed), and was referred to committee.
  • Parking Standards Zoning Amendment: the Planning Board report was received and filed, and the amendment affecting two-family dwelling parking minimums passed first passage by roll call, 9-1 (Flynn opposed).
  • The 2026 state election order from Interim City Clerk Maren Fischer was adopted 10-0 by roll call. A National Grid petition for a pole on Summit Avenue was set for hearing October 8, an Orange Square Halloween block party (October 31, 3 to 9 p.m.) was granted, and taxi, vehicle-for-hire and other licenses were granted by voice vote.
  • Second passage by voice vote: the Noise Control Ordinance, a Lafayette Place and Salem Street traffic ordinance, and fire lanes on Beach Avenue and Sutton Avenue.
  • Gas-Powered Leaf Blower Ordinance: second passage was approved as amended. Varela's amendment to require city departments to comply by 2030 was withdrawn after Smith estimated switching city equipment would cost over $400,000; an amendment adding "to the best of their ability" to the outreach language was adopted. The final vote was a show of hands that the captions render unclearly, and the chair declared it carried.
  • Adjourned at about 2:00.

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00:20A regular meeting of the city council

00:22was held in person on Thursday,

00:25September 24th, 2026 at 7 p.m. for the

00:28purpose of transacting any and all

00:30business. Notice of this meeting was

00:32posted on September 22nd, 2026 at 4:31

00:36p.m. This meeting is being recorded and

00:38is live on SATV and Zoom unless

00:41technological issues interrupt the

00:43transmission. Councilors absent,

00:45councelor Prosnki, Council President

00:48Merkel presiding. Councelor King moves

00:50to dispense with the reading of the

00:51record of the previous meeting. All in

00:53favor? So voted.

00:56I now request that everyone please rise

00:58to recite the pledge of allegiance led

01:00by counselor

01:00>> heard

01:03to the flag of the United States of

01:06America and to the republic for which it

01:08stands one nation under God indivisible

01:12with liberty and justice for all.

01:19The Salem City Council honors that this

01:21land is Namkeg or fishing place where

01:24generation of Namkeg people from the

01:26potucket band of the Massachusett tribe

01:29lived and passed through for centuries.

01:31We acknowledge that this is unseated

01:33indigenous land and also acknowledge the

01:36Massachusett tribe who continued to

01:38honor and hold this land into the

01:41present. Salem City Council is committed

01:43to having ongoing meaningful dialogue

01:46with the indigenous peoples who have

01:48presence in Salem in order to dismantle

01:51the legacies of oppression and

01:52inequities that persist today. Public

01:55comment. Public testimony is not to

01:58exceed 15 minutes. Public testimony is

02:00not a public hearing or question and

02:02answer period. Sign up must occur 30

02:04minutes prior to the meeting. The

02:06president shall, depending on the number

02:08of speakers, set a time limit not to

02:11exceed 3 minutes which each individual

02:13presenting testimony must abide. Tonight

02:16we have two people signed up to speak

02:18and each will receive three minutes to

02:21talk.

02:22And first we have Paulie Wilbert. And if

02:26you like, please state your name and

02:28address for the record.

02:39Can we see Polly?

02:46>> Hi Paulolly. Can you hear us?

02:53>> Please raise your hand if you can.

03:12We're just working on the transmission.

03:14Paulie,

03:17>> go ahead. Paulie.

03:18>> Thank you. Uh, Madame President, I have

03:21three quick comments. One is about the

03:25backup materials package to the agendas

03:29which I believe is too difficult for the

03:31average citizen to find. Um I would

03:35point to you the city council agendas

03:38for both Beverly and Peabody which is a

03:42oneclick open of the package which

03:45includes the agenda and the backup

03:47materials and I would urge us to go to a

03:50similar system. Um there are too many

03:53steps to find the backup materials for

03:56the agenda for the city council. My

03:59second point is tonight

04:02uh in my viewing of the backup package

04:05which I find I did find if you go to

04:08page 74, page 84, page 89, page 94, page

04:1599, page 104, those are all duplications

04:20of the same materials.

04:22Now, in my mind, this says there's

04:24either not been enough training,

04:27the technology is too difficult

04:30or staff is rushing.

04:33Um, I I don't think this is helpful. It

04:37doesn't speak to credibility. Um, and I

04:40think that needs some examination.

04:44And my third point tonight is the agenda

04:46item for the new skipper.

04:49Uh I find this uh candidly to be

04:53insulting. There is not enough data in

04:56the materials that were provided.

04:58There's no dollars and cents. Um there's

05:01no information that details the kind of

05:04contract that you are being asked to

05:07create a 5-year timeline on. Uh my

05:10understanding is that the previous

05:12skipper contract uh may have um created

05:17rides that were $20 a piece. Um it we're

05:21a small city. I find that really

05:25difficult to support. So, um I don't

05:29think these kinds of agenda submissions

05:32where there's so little detail that the

05:35public cannot even get an initial

05:37understanding

05:38of what's actually going to be

05:41considered uh is appropriate and I would

05:45urge the council not to accept these

05:47kinds of agenda items with so little

05:50detail um to be published uh before you

05:54all consider it. and that's even if it's

05:57going to committee. Uh I just don't

05:59think that this is an appropriate way to

06:01start uh a subject trail um and to have

06:06the public understand what h what's

06:08happening. So those are my three

06:10comments and I'm very concerned about

06:13each of the three uh issues that I've

06:16raised here tonight. Thank you.

06:19>> Thank you.

06:23Next we have Carol Kent.

06:28Go ahead.

06:34>> Carol, can you hear us?

06:52Carol, if you're here, if you could

06:54raise your hand.

07:03Do we see her online at all?

07:13Okay. And I'm not sure my mic is working

07:16now because I have it on.

07:24Carol, go ahead and talk.

07:32Carol was still working on the it to see

07:34if we can get you on. Carol, can you

07:37please unmute yourself?

07:52Hello.

07:54>> Hi, Carol. Can you hear us now?

07:56>> I can. I'm sorry.

07:58>> I saw you for a moment.

08:00>> Oh, I just have been trying to get

08:01online. Uh, sorry. I wasn't expected to

08:05talk, so

08:08I'm not sure. signed up to be on the

08:12Zoom.

08:15>> Okay. Thank you. Would you like to give

08:17any public comment?

08:19>> Well, um I had written to um some of the

08:23counselors at large. I live at uh

08:25Harborview Terrace across from Salem

08:28State College and as [snorts] many of

08:30you know that it's been under

08:31construction for several years and this

08:34summer has just been very loud and um

08:38there is supposed to be done with it at

08:40the end of October [snorts] the parking

08:43area. My concern is the noise factor

08:46noise ordinance and I'm not sure what it

08:48is in Salem in [snorts] regard to

08:50residential. Um, I had submitted my

08:54thoughts about uh possibly obviously

08:58restricting the gas leaf blowers and

09:03substituting them obviously for the

09:05electric blowers and sooner the better

09:08and I know that it takes time, but um it

09:11has been just an really loud ward five

09:15here uh especially for folks on uh

09:18Lafayette Street right across from the

09:20college. uh spoke with one of the

09:22residents and she couldn't even open her

09:24windows during the day because the noise

09:26is so loud. This is pretty uh standard

09:30for Salem State. They've been going

09:31under construction, but I do think the

09:33city can do help us in our neighborhoods

09:36for landscaping uh giving them a break

09:39between Memorial Day and Labor Day just

09:42like Marblehead and Swampscott and

09:44Conquered and some of the other

09:46communities in Massachusetts. I would uh

09:49put that up for a a vote to do that for

09:52next year 2027.

09:54Uh while you're trying to get the leaf

09:56blowers uh you know uh changed out. Um

09:59also just the timing of people uh during

10:02the week when they do their landscaping.

10:04It'd be really nice to have Sunday off.

10:07At this time Salem State is working on

10:10Saturday, so we have it on six days a

10:12week right now. and landscapers are free

10:16to blow and use their chainsaws wherever

10:19and whenever. I do think Sunday should

10:21be a day of rest. And that's my comment.

10:24Thank you.

10:26>> Thank you.

10:26>> Thank you.

10:30>> And that concludes our public testimony.

10:34>> Hearings.

10:39We have an order from National Grid to

10:40install conduits on Bridge Street in

10:42front of 252 Bridge Street, MBTA

10:46station.

10:47Is there anyone appearing in favor?

10:51And please state your name and address

10:52for the record.

10:55>> Hi, my name is John Jenkins. Um, I'm

10:59representing National Grid from the 44

11:01River Street office at Beverly.

11:05Um we are petitioning for the

11:08installation of

11:11121 ft of 24in concrete encase PVC

11:16um coming from the property line of 252

11:18Bridge Street to manhole

11:2331 located uh on Bridge Street. Um

11:28there's currently a AT&T cell antenna on

11:33pole 480 um 4849

11:38that is fed from poles located within

11:41252 Bridge Street that need to be

11:44removed for their construction. So this

11:46is the way to refeed it.

11:49>> Great. Thank you.

11:51>> Yep.

11:52>> Anything further you'd like to offer?

11:54Oh, I was going to say that um the

11:57customer will be completing all the

11:58construction for this one besides Oh,

12:02they'll be completing the installation

12:04of the handhole on their property

12:06[snorts]

12:06and the conduit in the street and then

12:10our civil will [snorts] be um stuffing

12:13it in into the existing manhole.

12:16>> Great. Thank you.

12:17>> Yep. Is there anyone else appearing in

12:20favor

12:23in person or on Zoom? Anyone in favor?

12:28Oh, I don't see anyone. Is there anyone

12:30appearing in opposition that would like

12:33to come up?

12:35Is anyone appearing in opposition uh on

12:38Zoom?

12:40Seeing none, uh do any of the counselors

12:43have questions or comments at this time?

12:48Okay, seeing none, councelor Halapa.

12:50>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move to

12:52close the public hearing.

12:54>> All those in favor of closing the public

12:56hearing is so voted. Councelor Halapa.

13:00>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move this

13:01be granted.

13:02>> Council Halapa moves that this be

13:04granted. Under discussion, Council

13:05Halapa.

13:07>> No discussion.

13:08>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

13:11Seeing none on council Halapa's motion

13:14that these conduits on Bridge Street be

13:16granted. All those in favor? All those

13:19opposed. The matter carries.

13:24Further hearings. We have an order from

13:25National Grid to install conduits on

13:27Naple Road Naples Road at the

13:30intersection of Naples Road and

13:32Hemingway Road. Thank you. Is there

13:35anyone appearing in favor? Again, please

13:38state your name and address for the

13:39record. Uh I'm John Jenkins from

13:42National Grid. Um I'm from the 44 River

13:45Street office in Beverly.

13:49Um

13:50we are proposing the installation of

13:53plus or minus 5 ft of conduit um going

13:57from pole 2881

14:01through the sidewalk to the property

14:03line of

14:06sorry one sec.

14:09um 17 Naples Road. Um this is for uh

14:14customer service. Uh they will own the

14:17conduit and complete the trenching.

14:21>> Great. Thank you. Is there anyone else

14:23appearing in favor?

14:28>> Would you like to appear in favor, sir?

14:30Um

14:31>> if if you would please come up so they

14:33can hear you in our in our meeting.

14:35Okay.

14:37>> [snorts]

14:39>> Thank you. And please state your name

14:41and address for the record.

14:47>> Eden Milroy,

14:499 Naples Road.

14:51Um, I'm not here to speak either in

14:55opposition or in support. Uh I would

14:59just like to have uh and and a number of

15:04the people on on Naples Road would like

15:07to have more information about the work

15:10that's actually taking place.

15:14>> Great. Thank you.

15:18>> Would you like to add any additional

15:19information? Um the customer will be

15:24installing conduit from the pole which

15:26is

15:28on the it's sidewalk and then grass in

15:30the street. So they're going to be going

15:33just through the sidewalk to their

15:34property line.

15:35>> So all the work is just right at that

15:39local

15:40>> Yep. It it'll be contained basically to

15:43>> you know the sidewalk entirely.

15:45>> Thank you.

15:46>> Great.

15:46>> Yep.

15:47>> Thank you. Anything further? No. Great.

15:50Thank you. Uh, anyone else appearing in

15:53FA favor either in person or online?

16:02>> Carol Kent, do you have your hands ra

16:04your hand raised uh to speak on the

16:06conduits, the proposed conduits on

16:08Naples Road?

16:10>> Oh, I'm just a neighbor and um it was

16:13just a mistake that my hand rose.

16:16>> Okay, great. Thank you.

16:21Is there anyone appearing in opposition

16:25either in person or online?

16:31Seeing none, do any of the counselors

16:33have questions or comments? Councelor

16:36King.

16:38Thank you, [snorts]

16:38uh, President Merkel. Um, just for the

16:41folks that are uh watching online and

16:43are not as fluent in the language of

16:46conduits, could you describe what you

16:48mean when you say a conduit that is

16:50going from this pole to the to the

16:53customer's house? Can you just like talk

16:55about what that actually physically is

16:57like a is it a cable whatever it is?

17:00Yeah.

17:00>> Um, when I say conduit, I mean it'll be

17:03probably be I don't think it says the

17:05size in this, but it's a PVC pipe that

17:09goes usually 2 ft underground and is um

17:12concrete encased.

17:14And that will be the part going through

17:16the sidewalk. And then there is a metal

17:18riser that goes up the pole, which if

17:21like if you've seen um any electric pole

17:24with the like metal coming up from the

17:26ground, that's what that is. Um, so

17:29that's right on the pole, so it's not

17:31really like a uh it doesn't interfere

17:33with anything.

17:34>> Okay. And then my follow-up question is

17:37because it has to go underneath a

17:39section of the sidewalk. I imagine

17:41you'll be digging up some amount of

17:43sidewalk. Do you have a sense of how

17:45much like how many chunks of sidewalk

17:47you're planning to to pull up this? Um,

17:50this is the customer owns this, so

17:53they'll be the one um completing the

17:56trenching or whoever they contracted out

17:58to. But the sidewalk there is uh

18:04[snorts] like cement slabs. So, it would

18:06be, you know, within one that they're

18:09probably like four 4T or so cuz you only

18:12need per trench maybe 18 in.

18:16>> Okay. Your estimate is probably one slab

18:18of sidewalk. Pretty straightforward.

18:20Okay,

18:20>> great. Thank you. [snorts]

18:22>> Thank you. Do any of the counselors have

18:25any further questions or comments?

18:29>> Seeing none, council Varela.

18:33Oh, I'm sorry, Councelor King.

18:35>> Thank you. I move that the hearing be

18:37closed.

18:41>> Councelor King moves that the hearing be

18:43closed. All those in favor?

18:46It is so voted.

18:49Councelor King.

18:50>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move that

18:52this be granted.

18:53>> Councelor King moves that this be

18:55granted. Under discussion, Councelor

18:56King.

18:57>> No discussion.

18:58>> Any further discussion?

19:00Seeing none on Councelor King's motion

19:03uh that these conduits on Naples Road be

19:06granted. All those in favor?

19:08All those opposed? The matter carries.

19:14>> [snorts]

19:15>> Further hearings.

19:17>> We have an order from National Grid to

19:18install conduits on Web Street at the

19:20intersection of Web Street and Fort

19:22Avenue.

19:26>> Is there anyone appearing in favor?

19:28Again, please state your name and

19:29address for the record.

19:30>> I am John Jenkins. Um, I'm representing

19:34National Grid from the 44 River Street

19:36office in Beverly.

19:38Um, we are proposing the installation of

19:41plus or minus 5 ft of conduit and

19:44customer service cables through the

19:46sidewalk from pole 3005 located on um,

19:52Web Street.

19:54Uh, this is for [snorts]

19:58uh, the customer service for the new

20:00construction at 21 Web Street.

20:03>> Thank you.

20:05Is there anyone else appearing in favor?

20:10Is there anyone appearing in favor

20:11online?

20:14Seeing no one, uh, is there anyone

20:16appearing in opposition?

20:20Seeing no one, does do any of our

20:23counselors have questions or comments?

20:27Seeing none, Council Tr.

20:31>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move to

20:32close the public hearing. Councelor

20:33Trroski moves to close the public

20:36hearing. All those in favor? It is so

20:39voted.

20:41Councelor Trroski.

20:43>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move that

20:44this be granted. Councilor Trosky moves

20:46that these be granted. Under discussion,

20:48councelor Trroski.

20:50>> No discussion.

20:52>> Any further discussion?

20:54Seeing none, on councelor Trrosk's

20:57motion that the conduits on Web Street

21:00be granted. All those in favor, all

21:03those opposed.

21:05Matter carries.

21:07>> Thank you. [snorts]

21:10>> And further hearings. We have an order

21:13from Go Net Speed to install and

21:15maintain underground fiber optic

21:16facilities on Jefferson Avenue.

21:20>> Is there anyone appearing in favor?

21:23>> Please state your name and address for

21:24the record.

21:26>> Hello, my name is John Delahan

21:28representing Go Net Speed. um 25 Campus

21:31Drive, New Glower, Maine.

21:34Um so the purpose of this, well, let's

21:35back up. It's the corner of Jefferson

21:37and Dove. As you stated, this is uh

21:39we'll be starting at pole number 34 and

21:41we will bore approximately 235 ft. Um

21:46and heading northeast and then terminate

21:48at pole number 32. Um we'll have our

21:51fiber optic cables buried in there. The

21:54purpose for this is continuity. So um

21:56maybe a little bit of background go net

21:58speed we are coming in or planning to

22:00come into Salem to provide uh fiber

22:02broadband internet to residents and

22:04commercial folks. Uh we [clears throat]

22:06are now uh serve about 11 we serve 11

22:09states in the northeast. Um we've been a

22:12provider for quite some time. We have we

22:14do everything from construct to then

22:15operate the network. We have our own

22:17customer care, our own techs. Um, we

22:19have active service in Massachusetts,

22:21but it's in the eastern part of the

22:23state right now in Springfield in the

22:24surrounding greater Springfield area.

22:26Um, and the construction for Salem isn't

22:30slated until the fourth quarter of next

22:33year. And of course, we'll work with the

22:34city to figure out timing and all the

22:37um, you know, follow all the proper

22:38ordinances when it comes to that. And

22:40just one other point is we are um, we

22:42build aerally. So, we build and attach

22:44to poles. We license Wood National Grid

22:47to attach our fiber strand to those

22:48poles. We do not go underground except

22:51for this scenario. The reason why we're

22:52looking to go underground is as I said

22:54continuity because in Massachusetts um I

22:57want to get too deep here, but there's

22:58no legislation that's called one-touch

23:00make ready. So it can take up which that

23:03means one contractor can move all the

23:05facilities from one pole to the other.

23:07There won't be all double woods

23:08everywhere. Unfortunately, double poles

23:11um that happens quite a bit in

23:12Massachusetts and it can take a year

23:14plus to get that um new pole set and

23:16facilities switched over. So, as we're

23:18building, we don't want to have one side

23:19of the street have service and the other

23:21side wait a year plus to get that uh

23:23service. So, that's the purpose is to

23:25make sure um we have that continuity

23:27when the build schedule is ready.

23:29>> Thank you.

23:31Is there anyone else appearing in favor?

23:35Is there anyone else online appearing in

23:38favor?

23:40Is there anyone appearing in opposition

23:44in person or online?

23:47Seeing none, uh, do any of the

23:49counselors have questions or comments?

23:53>> Yes, Councelor Sedora.

23:55>> Thank you, President Merkel. Uh, I just

23:56want to, uh, thank you for being able to

23:58do that site visit with you. Um, doing

24:01research into your company. Um, I I I

24:04hear a lot of great things and I'm just

24:06excited to get a lot more competition

24:08and uh opportunities for our residents

24:11here and taking another go at fiber. Um,

24:14you know, Fiverr is pretty great. Thank

24:16you. Thank you, [clears throat]

24:16President Merkel.

24:18>> Thank you.

24:20Seeing no further questions uh from the

24:23counselor, councelor Sedorak,

24:25>> move to close the public hearing.

24:27[snorts]

24:27>> All those in favor of closing the public

24:29hearing, it is so voted. Councelor

24:32Sedorak.

24:33>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

24:34this to be granted.

24:35>> Councelor Soryak moves that these be

24:37granted. Under discussion, Council

24:39Sedorak.

24:40>> No discussion.

24:42>> Any further discussion?

24:45Seeing none on Council Sidorak's motion

24:47that these underground fiber optic

24:51facilities on Jefferson Avenue be

24:55granted. All those in favor? All those

24:58opposed? The matter carries. Thank

25:00>> Thank you.

25:06Appointments and reappointments. We had

25:08held from the last meeting that may

25:10appointment of Alons's right of 23 and a

25:13half Broad Street to the Food Policy

25:15Council with a term to expire November

25:1716th, 2028.

25:20Councelor Smith.

25:21>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

25:23confirmation by roll call vote.

25:25>> Councelor [snorts] Smith moves for

25:26confirmation by roll call vote. Under

25:28discussion, Councelor Smith.

25:30>> Thank you. Uh Mr. Wright has uh had

25:33years uh as an accessibility inclusion

25:36strategist. He's uh collaborated with

25:38disability groups, Department of Labor,

25:40and very impress impressive background.

25:42Previously served on the Food Policy

25:44Council. He's coming back. He's also was

25:46the vice chair of the uh Race Equity

25:49Commission for a year there, the Salem

25:51Human Rights uh Coalition uh for a

25:54number of years. So, he served the city

25:55well, and we're we're happy, I hope, to

25:58uh reappoint him here.

26:01Thank you. Any further discussion?

26:05Seeing none, on Councelor Smith's motion

26:08for confirmation by roll call vote uh

26:10the appointment of Alons Wright to the

26:12Food Policy Council. Madison, Madam City

26:15Clerk, please call the role. Council

26:17Davis,

26:17>> yes.

26:18>> Council Flynn,

26:19>> yes.

26:20>> Council Hapworth,

26:21>> yes.

26:21>> Council Halapa,

26:22>> yes.

26:23>> Council King,

26:24>> yes.

26:25>> Council Smith,

26:26>> yes.

26:27>> Council Sidoriaak,

26:28>> yes.

26:29Council Trouski.

26:30>> Yes.

26:32>> Council Varela.

26:36>> Council Merkel.

26:37>> Yes.

26:49We have nine members voting. Uh one

26:52absent. Uh we have nine in the

26:54affirmative, none in the negative. The

26:57matter carries. Councelor

27:01Smith. Um, yeah, Councelor Smith

27:10[clears throat]

27:11mot. Yeah, a motion to suspend the

27:13rules.

27:14>> Councelor Smith,

27:15>> I may address.

27:17>> Thank you. Councelor Smith motions to

27:20suspend the rules. Seeing no objection.

27:22if uh Alons Wright is online if he would

27:27like to speak.

27:35Okay,

27:37seeing him not present online, uh we

27:39welcome Alance White Wright to the food

27:42policy council.

27:44Further appointments and reappointments.

27:46We have held from the last meeting the

27:48mayor's appointment of Katarina Meyers

27:50Four-Wheel Avenue to the bicycling and

27:52shared path advisory committee with a

27:54term to expire February 10th, 2028.

27:57Councelor King.

27:59>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

28:01confirmation by roll call vote.

28:03>> Councelor King moves for confirmation by

28:04roll call vote. Under discussion,

28:06Councelor King.

28:08>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um, yes. Uh

28:10we are very lucky to have uh Miss Meyer

28:13uh joining the bicycle and shared path

28:16advisory committee. Um she has

28:18experience as a certified planner and an

28:21expert in GIS and has also uh extensive

28:24experience in transportation planning

28:26and uh multimodal uh mobility. So we are

28:29really really lucky to have her here

28:31joining us. Thank you.

28:33>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

28:36Seeing none, on councelor King's motion

28:38for confirmation by roll call vote, the

28:41appointment of Katarina Meyers to the

28:45bicycling and shared path advisory

28:47committee. Madame city clerk, please

28:49call the role.

28:50>> Councelor Davis,

28:51>> yes.

28:52>> Council Flynn,

28:53>> yes.

28:54>> Council Hackworth,

28:55>> yes.

28:56>> Council Halapa,

28:57>> yes.

28:58>> Council King,

28:59>> yes.

29:01>> Council Smith,

29:02>> yes.

29:02>> Council Sedorak,

29:03>> yes. Council Terroski.

29:06>> Yes. Council Varela.

29:08>> Yes.

29:08>> And Council Marco,

29:10>> yes.

29:21We have 10 members voting. We have 10 in

29:24the affirmative, none in the negative.

29:26The matter carries.

29:28Councelor King.

29:30>> I move to suspend the rules to allow uh

29:32Mrs. Myers to speak.

29:34Council King motions to suspend the

29:36rules. Seeing no objection, would and

29:39I'll say it correctly this time. Katrina

29:41Meyers like to come up and speak.

29:43>> Thank you. Yes, Katrina Meyer. Um,

29:45appreciate the opportunity. Looking

29:47forward to serving on the bicycle and

29:48shared use path committee and lending my

29:50perspective and skills and expertise.

29:52Thank you everybody.

29:54>> Thank you.

29:58Further appointments and reappointments.

30:01We have held from the last meeting the

30:03mayor's appointment of Elena Rodriguez

30:05Depal of 26 Lynden Street to the Race

30:08Equity Commission with a term to expire

30:10September 10th, 2029. Councelor King.

30:14>> Thank you, Chair Merkel. I move for

30:16confirmation by roll call vote.

30:18>> Councelor King moves for confirmation by

30:19roll call vote. Under discussion,

30:21Councelor King.

30:22>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um, uh,

30:25Miss Rodriguez Depal has experience as

30:27an anti-racist, trauma-informed educator

30:29in our Salem schools, and we are really

30:31lucky to have her joining our race

30:33equity commission. Thanks.

30:35Thank you. Any further discussion?

30:39Seeing none, on Councelor King's motion

30:42for confirmation by roll call vote, the

30:44appointment of Elena Rodriguez Depal to

30:47the Race Equity Commission. Madame City

30:50Clerk, please call the role.

30:51>> Council Davis,

30:52>> yes. Council Flynn,

30:54>> yes.

30:54>> Council Her,

30:55>> yes.

30:56>> Council Loer,

30:57>> yes.

30:57>> Council King,

30:58>> yes.

30:59>> Council Smith,

31:00>> yes.

31:00>> Council Sedora,

31:01>> yes.

31:02>> Council Terroski,

31:03>> yes.

31:03>> Council Varela,

31:04>> yes.

31:05>> Council Merkel,

31:06>> yes.

31:13>> We have 10 members voting. We have 10 in

31:16the affirmative, none in the negative.

31:18The matter carries.

31:20Councelor King.

31:21>> Thank you, President Merkel.

31:22[clears throat] I move to suspend the

31:23rules to allow uh Miss Rodriguez Depal

31:25to speak. I see her online. [snorts]

31:28Great. Thank you. Councelor King motions

31:31to suspend the rules. Seeing no

31:33objections, would Miss Rodriguez Depal

31:37like to speak if she would raise her

31:39hand?

31:41>> Yes. Thank you so much for this

31:43appointment. It is a great honor to

31:45serve my city.

31:49>> Thank you.

31:53Further appointments and reappointments

31:56we

31:59sorry we have held from the last meeting

32:01the mayor's appointment of Samantha

32:02Stringfellow at 40oot Bay View Zurkel to

32:04the zoning boards of appeals with a term

32:07to expire September 10th 2028.

32:10Councelor Terroski.

32:11>> Thank you President Merkel. I move for

32:12confirmation by roll call vote.

32:14Councelor Trroski moves for confirmation

32:16by roll call vote. Under discussion

32:18councelor Trroski. Thank you, President

32:20Merkel. Um, Miss, uh, Samantha

32:22Stringfellow um, is currently an

32:25engineering manager at Spotify, uh,

32:27where she leads technical strategy and

32:29roadmap execution across multiple

32:31engineering domains. And [snorts] she

32:32previously served as a product owner and

32:34team lead at the Broad Institute of MIT

32:36and Harvard, uh, managing

32:38multi-disiplinary engineering teams and

32:40[snorts] overseeing infrastructure

32:41serving thousands of physical and

32:42virtual systems. Um, we're going to be

32:44really fortunate to have her on our ZBA.

32:48um and we're going to have a really tech

32:50forward uh ZBA uh with her appointment.

32:52So I wanted to thank you for her thank

32:54her for her service and uh really

32:56excited to see what she can bring. Thank

32:58you. Any further discussion?

33:02Seeing none, councelor Trosky's motion

33:04for confirmation by roll call vote the

33:07appointment of Samantha Stringfellow to

33:09the zoning board of appeals. Madame city

33:11clerk.

33:13>> Council Davis.

33:14>> Yes.

33:14>> Council Flynn.

33:15>> Yes.

33:15>> Council Hapworth.

33:16>> Yes. Council Halapa,

33:18>> yes.

33:18>> Council King,

33:19>> yes.

33:19>> Council Smith,

33:20>> yes.

33:22>> Council Sedorak,

33:23>> yes.

33:23>> Council Terroski,

33:24>> yes.

33:25>> Council Varela,

33:26>> yes.

33:26>> And Council Merkel,

33:28>> yes.

33:32>> You have 10 members voting. We have 10

33:35in the affirmative, none in the

33:36negative. The matter carries.

33:39Councelor Terowski.

33:41>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

33:42suspension of the rules to allow Miss

33:44Stringfellow to speak.

33:46Councelor Trroski moves for suspension

33:49of the rules. Seeing no objections,

33:52would Samantha Stringfellow like to come

33:54up and say a few words.

33:59Hi everyone. Thank you so much. Uh thank

34:00you for this appointment. I want to

34:02quickly correct for the record it's for

34:04Bay View Circle. Uh 44 will take you I

34:07think across town. Um I am incredibly

34:10excited to be appointed to this board. I

34:13have the utmost respect for them and

34:14feel very privileged to be among them.

34:16So, thank you all very much.

34:21[applause]

34:23>> Thank you. Further appointments and

34:25reappointments. We have the mayor's

34:27reappoint of the following with terms to

34:29expire. Elena Elmar to the planning

34:31board um September 22nd of 2031.

34:36Mark Mechi to the historical commission

34:38September 13th of 2029. Craig Bilo to

34:42the bicycling and share path advisory

34:44committee September 13th of 2029 and

34:47Steven Laric to the zoning board of

34:49appeals uh September 10th 2031.

34:54Council Trroski.

34:55>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

34:57confirmation by roll call vote.

34:59>> Councelor Trroski moves for confirmation

35:01by roll call vote. Under discussion,

35:03councelor Trroski.

35:05>> Uh thank you to all of these individuals

35:06for your willingness to serve.

35:09>> Thank you. Any further discussion? And

35:11seeing none [clears throat] on councelor

35:14Trosk's motion for confirmation by roll

35:17roll call vote the reappoint of Elenahur

35:21to the planning board. Mark Mitchi to

35:23the historical commission. Greg Bowo to

35:27[clears throat] the bicycling and shared

35:28path advisory committee and Steven Laric

35:31to the zoning board of appeals. Madam

35:33city clerk, please call the role.

35:35>> Councelor Davis,

35:36>> yes.

35:36>> Council Flynn,

35:38>> yes. Council Hab,

35:39>> yes.

35:39>> Council Halapa,

35:40>> yes.

35:41>> Council King,

35:42>> yes.

35:42>> Council Smith,

35:43>> yes.

35:44>> Council Sedora,

35:45>> yes.

35:45>> Council Terowski,

35:46>> yes.

35:47>> Council Varela,

35:48>> yes.

35:48>> Council Merkel,

35:49>> yes.

35:56>> We have 10 members voting. We have 10 in

35:58the affirmative, none in the negative.

36:00The matter carries.

36:03Further appointments and reappointments.

36:06We have the mayor's appointment of the

36:07following to the taxpayer relief

36:09committee with a term to expire

36:10September 24th, 2029. Joe Fenari,

36:14Kathleen Welker, Jill Alaska,

36:20Council Troski.

36:22>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move that

36:23these be held under the rules.

36:24>> Councilor Trosky moves that these be

36:26held under the rules. All those in

36:28favor? All those opposed? The matter

36:30carries. Further appointments and

36:32reappointments. We have the mayor's

36:34reappoint of the following with terms to

36:36expire. Alli Krufeld to the Food Policy

36:39Council September 24th, 2029. Brian

36:42Apedo to the public art commission

36:44September 24th, 2028. And Jim Bostik to

36:48the public arts commission September

36:5024th, 2028. Councilor Troski. Thank you,

36:53President Merkel. I move that these

36:54beheld under the rules. Trroski moves

36:56that these be held under the rules. All

36:58those in favor? All those opposed? The

37:00matter carries. Further appointments and

37:03reappoints. We have the may appointment

37:05of Darien

37:07Morazzo of Harbor Street to the Zeroway

37:10Salem and this is forformational

37:12purposes only. Council Troski. Thank

37:15you, President Merkel. I move that this

37:16be received and filed. Councelor Trroski

37:18moves that this be received and filed.

37:20All those in favor? All those opposed?

37:22The matter carries. Communications from

37:25the mayor. We have per mass general law

37:28chapter 44 section 64 which is allows

37:30for a municipality to pay for prior

37:32fiscal year expenses using current

37:34fiscal year appropriations. We need a

37:372/3 vote for this. The sum is $10,76848

37:42for the school department.

37:45>> Council Davis.

37:46>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

37:47adoption by roll call vote.

37:49>> Suspension of the rules.

37:51>> I'm sorry. I move for suspension of

37:52rules. Councelor Davis moves to the

37:54suspension of the rules. Seeing no

37:57objection, councelor Davis.

37:58>> Thank you, President Merkel. Move for

38:00adoption by roll call vote.

38:02>> Councelor Davis moves for adoption by

38:03roll call vote. Twothirds vote needed.

38:05Under discussion, councelor Davis.

38:07>> Thank you, President Merkel. This order

38:08is necessary to retroactively pay three

38:11individuals um employed by Salem Public

38:13Schools. Uh this is part of a collective

38:16bargaining agreement uh with the Salem

38:18Teachers Union.

38:20>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

38:23Seeing none, and councelor Davis's

38:24motion for adoption by two by roll call

38:26vote, twoth3s vote needed, uh that the

38:29prior fiscal year invoices uh for the

38:32schools be paid in a for a total of

38:35$10,76848.

38:38Madam City clerk, please call the role.

38:40>> Councelor Davis,

38:41>> yes.

38:42>> Council Flynn,

38:43>> yes.

38:43>> Council Halfworth,

38:44>> yes.

38:45>> Council Hilapa,

38:46>> yes.

38:46>> Council King,

38:47>> yes.

38:47>> Council Smith,

38:48>> yes.

38:49>> Council Sedoryak,

38:50>> yes.

38:50>> Council Teroski,

38:51>> yes. Council Varela.

38:52>> Yes.

38:53>> And council Merkel. Yes.

39:03We have 10 members voting. We have 10 in

39:05the affirmative, none in the negative.

39:07The matter carries.

39:11Further communications from the mayor.

39:13Perms general law chapter 44 section 64

39:16which is allows for a municipality to

39:18pay for a prior fiscal year invoice

39:20using current fiscal year appropriations

39:22by 2/3 vote request the sum of

39:27$900 81 to the parking department.

39:31>> Councelor Davis.

39:32>> Thank you, President Mkeley. I move for

39:34suspension of the rules.

39:35>> Councelor Davis moves for suspension of

39:37the rules. Seeing no objections,

39:39Councelor Davis.

39:40>> Thank you, President. I move for

39:41adoption by roll call vote. Councelor

39:43Davis moves for adoption by roll call

39:45vote. Twothirds vote needed. Under

39:47discussion, Councelor Davis.

39:49>> Thank you. So, this is an order uh

39:51that's necessary to pay an invoice uh

39:53from National Grid for electrical

39:55services um for a uh recently received

39:59uh delayed invoice.

40:01>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

40:04Seeing none, on councelor Davis's motion

40:07for adoption by roll call vote,

40:08twothirds vote needed, that the prior

40:11fiscal year invoice for the parking

40:13department national grid in the amount

40:15of $900.81

40:17be paid. Madam city clerk, please call

40:20the role.

40:20>> Council Davis,

40:21>> yes.

40:22>> Council Flynn,

40:23>> yes.

40:23>> Council Hapworth,

40:24>> yes.

40:24>> Council Halapa,

40:25>> yes.

40:26>> Council King,

40:27>> yes.

40:27>> Council Smith,

40:28>> yes.

40:29>> Council Sedora,

40:30>> yes.

40:30>> Council Cherowski,

40:32>> yes. Council Varela.

40:33>> Yes.

40:33>> Council Marco. Yes.

40:44We have 10 members voting. We have 10 in

40:46the affirmative, none in the negative.

40:48The matter carries.

40:50Further communications from the mayor.

40:54We have, excuse me, per master general

40:57law chapter 44 section 64, which allows

41:00for your municipality to pay for a prior

41:02fiscal year invoice using current fiscal

41:04year appropriations with 23 vote

41:06required by the city council for $330

41:10for the engineering department.

41:14>> Councelor Davis.

41:15>> Thank you, President Muro. I move for

41:17suspension the rules.

41:18>> Councelor Davis moves for suspension of

41:19the rules. Seeing no objections,

41:22councelor Davis.

41:23>> Thank you. I move for uh adoption by

41:25roll call vote.

41:26>> Councelor Davis moves for adoption by

41:28roll call vote. Twothirds vote needed.

41:30Under discussion, councelor Davis.

41:32>> Thank you, President Merkel. This order

41:33is necessary to pay an outstanding 2025

41:36invoice from Hart Hollyy uh for a police

41:39detail at a recycling event at the high

41:42school.

41:43>> Any further discussion?

41:46Seeing none on councelor Davis's motion

41:48for adoption by roll call vote

41:50two-thirds vote needed that the prior

41:52fisc year invoice uh for the engineering

41:55department housey LLC in the amount of

41:58$330 be paid. Madame city clerk, please

42:02call the role.

42:03>> Councel Davis,

42:04>> yes.

42:04>> Councel Flynn,

42:05>> yes.

42:06>> Council Her,

42:07>> yes.

42:07>> Council Hilapoa,

42:08>> yes.

42:08>> Council King,

42:09>> yes.

42:10>> Councelor Smith,

42:11>> yes.

42:11>> Council Sedora,

42:13>> yes.

42:13>> Council Teroski,

42:14>> yes. Council Varela.

42:16>> Yes.

42:16>> And Council Merkel.

42:17>> Yes.

42:23>> Thank you.

42:25>> We have 10 members voting. We have 10 in

42:27the affirmative, none in the negative.

42:29The matter carries.

42:31Further communications from the mayor.

42:35We have an order that the city council

42:37hereby authorize the mayor to enter into

42:39a 5-year contract with Via

42:41Transportation Incorporated doing

42:42business as North, excuse me, River

42:45North Transit LLC of New York, New York

42:48for an ondemand ride share program.

42:51>> Councelor Davis.

42:52>> Thank you, President Mkeley. I move for

42:54adoption.

42:54>> Councelor Davis moves for adoption.

42:56Under discussion, Councelor Davis.

42:58>> Thank you, President Merkel. This is an

42:59exciting one. Um, this is the Salem

43:02Skipper. Um, so, uh, most of us probably

43:05know we got a recent, uh, Mass DOT

43:07grant, um, which will enable us to, uh,

43:10maintain the service until at least June

43:1230th, uh, 2027. Um, this being a 5-year

43:16contract, uh, is going to allow, um, for

43:19periodic extensions um, past that uh,

43:22point um, subject to future funding.

43:25>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

43:28Councelor King.

43:30>> Thank you, President Merkel. I'm also

43:32thrilled to see this on here because it

43:34means extending the program through June

43:36of next year. I will note um just the

43:40the city council's voting because

43:42they're extending the contract for 5

43:43years and that's why it's in front of

43:45us. I would love to see the contract in

43:47future cases when the whole point is the

43:49contract is why we're reviewing it. I

43:51think this has happened before where

43:52there's no contract in the backup. So I

43:54I agree. I would love to see the

43:56contract in the future. Thank you. Uh

43:59any further discussion? Councelor Halap.

44:02>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um, I have

44:04a mind to vote against this tonight,

44:06which might sound crazy if you've ever

44:08met me or heard me talk about

44:10transportation and it's because of how

44:12little information the council has

44:14around this. We, as was mentioned, we

44:16have not seen the contract. Um, there is

44:20information in the backup material that

44:22there's a notion to find a more

44:24sustainable funding plan. As was

44:26mentioned by councelor Davis, there's a

44:27grant that is going to extend this until

44:30next year, mid next year. Uh, and I

44:32really would prefer to have this

44:35information so we can make an informed

44:37decision and try to really

44:38collaboratively discuss with the

44:40transportation department how we can

44:42make this critical service work in the

44:44long term and understand how this is

44:47going to be different this time. I swear

44:49from what just happened, which is that

44:51for the last 6 months, people that we

44:53have all heard rely deeply on this

44:56service have had very little

44:58understanding of how long they're going

45:00to be able to use this service because

45:02it kept getting extended and then it was

45:03getting extended again, which is great.

45:06But I hope that we all understand this

45:07is critical transportation

45:08infrastructure and we should not be

45:10playing with people's lives like this.

45:12That said, my understanding, and I have

45:14not had this confirmed that from the

45:16transportation director, but my

45:17understanding is the existing contract

45:19expires next Wednesday.

45:21So, I would like to send this to

45:23committee,

45:25but because it's 6 days before the

45:27expiry of the contract, I'm not

45:29interested in playing with people's

45:30lives like that. So, I would like this

45:32to be granted, but I'm I'm not happy

45:33about the circumstances of this. Thank

45:35you.

45:36>> Thank you. Any further discussion,

45:38councelor Trouski? Um I if we could just

45:41maybe not tonight but before next

45:43Wednesday get some clarity on whether or

45:45not um there's a um an expiration date

45:49associated with that grant. Um because

45:51if we don't want to delay this to the

45:53point where we lose the money that we've

45:54already been promised. Um thank you.

45:59>> Thank you. Uh I'll make the point that

46:01when the agenda is posted um which is

46:05Tuesday evening before the meetings uh

46:08we're all welcome to reach out to the

46:10departments uh with questions uh and

46:14feel free to um direct questions at me

46:16and if if you if the response isn't

46:20there and uh yes um just want to put

46:23that out there that you know we have a

46:25couple of days to reach out with

46:27questions uh any further discussion

46:29Councelor

46:32Smith.

46:33>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um,

46:35I I'll ask the if anybody anybody did

46:38reach out uh and has this information,

46:40but if this is voted down, it still

46:43means that they can enter into 3 years

46:45of contract, but we are only entering

46:47into a contract through June as of now.

46:51So it would mean that there are now they

46:53can still enter into a contract for

46:54three years with VIA still provide the

46:58skipper just they're asking for this

47:00extended term perhaps for negotiations

47:03perhaps so that there's some continuity

47:05in the future I don't think we really

47:07know um and so again do we want to play

47:12with folks lives I'm not sure but if

47:14anybody has that information I would

47:15love to hear it

47:17>> thank you any further discussion council

47:22Thank you, President Merkel. I would

47:23just um offer up that I'm happy to

47:26schedule a ANF meeting about this. Um

47:30maybe maybe not sending this to that

47:32meeting. I I think there's um probably a

47:36um some consequences of not voting this

47:39through, but it it sounds like there's

47:40there's discussion to be had. We've not

47:43had administration finance meeting in a

47:45long time um because most things have

47:47not had a lot of discussion um or or

47:50reason for discussion. So throwing that

47:52out there if that's um the will of the

47:54body. If there's interest in that, happy

47:55to schedule that meeting.

47:57>> Councelor King.

47:59>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um I I

48:01don't have the official answer from the

48:03transportation department. I I will say

48:05I would guess they're not

48:07>> I would guess they're not entering into

48:08a 5-year contract just for fun. like I

48:10would assume that it had something to do

48:12with the RFP that they put out or for

48:14general terms. Um the the the language

48:17in the backup that we have about it

48:19being like conditional upon extensions

48:23has to do with funding and not the

48:24contract. So it's not a contract for 9

48:26months. It's still a contract for 5

48:28years and it's just written into the

48:30language that it's contingent the

48:32contract extending is contingent upon

48:34the city being able to continue to find

48:35money. And the fact that we are 6 days

48:37away. I mean, I'll be voting yes for

48:39this because I think we need to continue

48:40this program and I don't think it's

48:42worth holding it up in committee. I

48:43think it's more of a point that in

48:45general it would be helpful if we

48:46received the contracts when we have

48:49votes like this, but I I don't think it

48:51um I don't think anyone in this room

48:52probably has enough information to put

48:55this at risk to hold it up is my

48:57opinion.

48:59>> Councelor Hworth.

49:00>> Thank you, Madam President. Um I'd just

49:02add that if if if we want to pass this

49:04tonight, that makes a lot of sense. If

49:05someone wants to put in a late file, um

49:07there's paper in your desk, you can

49:08write out a late file, put that in there

49:10just to get get into ANF, um if they

49:12have questions. Um and I'll just second

49:14the the point that these these agendas

49:17come out come out in a bit of a flurry

49:20from the mayor's office. Sometimes the

49:21backup is extensive and it's excellent.

49:23Sometimes we need more. Um reach out,

49:26please. You have we have time to reach

49:28out uh to ask questions, to get clarity

49:30from the mayor's office. Uh you know

49:32hopefully today is not the day where

49:33we're asking those questions uh live in

49:35a meeting. Reach out, ask those

49:37questions. If you want more, then we can

49:39put a late file in and discuss it more

49:40in committee. Thanks.

49:43>> And for clarity, you mean to pass it,

49:46but put in a late file to have

49:50like a a meeting for an update on the

49:52skipper. Yeah. To discuss the Salem

49:54skipper in general. Yeah, we we've done

49:55that previously. Uh, councelor Halapa.

50:01>> Thank you, President Merkel. Just to

50:02clarify the point I was made I made

50:03earlier, I'm going to read a sentence

50:04from the backup here. Uh, the

50:06transportation department is continuing

50:07to pursue additional grant and funding

50:09sources for the service and we are

50:10reviewing options for possible

50:12sustainable funding streams on a more

50:14permanent basis. Once those are more

50:15refined, we expect to propose a plan to

50:17the city council. So, just just

50:19[clears throat] for reference, you know,

50:20I uh I don't think it it does any good

50:23to reach out to the transportation

50:24department, ask for the thing that

50:25they're telling us they don't have ready

50:26yet. Um I think my my main gripe with

50:29this is the fact that this is coming to

50:31us 5 days before the contract is done

50:33and this part hasn't been done. Uh and

50:35that is that is frustrating to to be in

50:38this position where we're not able to

50:39really review these more sustainable

50:42funding streams um as part of this uh

50:45long-term discussion. Thank you. I'm

50:48going to call a point of order for the

50:50rest of this being under discussion.

50:52Please refrain from characterizations of

50:55city departments uh and return to the

50:57matter before that which is voting on

50:59this matter. Thank you. Any further

51:02discussion,

51:03councelor Flyn?

51:05>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um I think

51:08as a council, I have a hard time voting

51:10on something that we don't have all the

51:12information on. I I I think the skipper

51:14is a is a good thing and people need it.

51:17But also as elected officials, I feel a

51:21responsibility not to vote for something

51:23blindly

51:25even though it is a good thing. So I I I

51:27can't support this at this time till we

51:29have all the data. Thank you.

51:33>> Thank you.

51:36Any further discussion?

51:39Seeing none, on councelor Davis's motion

51:41for adoption that the mayor enter into a

51:435-year contract with Via Transportation,

51:46Inc. for an ondemand ride share program,

51:49the skipper. All those in favor?

51:55All those opposed.

51:57The matter carries.

52:00Further communication from the mayor.

52:04We have an order that the city

52:06[clears throat] council hereby approves

52:07and adopts the submittal of the city of

52:09Salem hazard mitigation plan update as

52:13prepared and submitted in accordance

52:14with the requirements of the federal

52:16emergency management agency and the

52:18Massachusetts Emergency Management

52:20Agency.

52:22>> Councelor Trasi.

52:23>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move that

52:24this be adopted.

52:26>> Councelor Trroski moves for adoption.

52:28Under discussion, Councelor Traski.

52:31Um, no discussion. Any [clears throat]

52:33further discussion? Seeing none, on

52:36councelor Trrosky's motion for adoption

52:38that the city of Salem's hazard

52:40mitigation plan update

52:44be adopted. All those in favor? All

52:46those opposed. The matter carries.

52:50Mayor'sformational page.

52:53The city of Salem Sustainability,

52:55Energy, and Resiliency Committee, CIRC,

52:58revised the miss revised their mission

53:00statement. The original statement was

53:03written before the city created and

53:05staffed the sustainability and

53:07resiliency department. This is

53:09forformational purposes only. Councelor

53:12Davis.

53:13>> Thank you, President Mkeley. I move that

53:14this be received and filed.

53:16>> Councelor Davis's motion that this be

53:17received and filed. All those in favor?

53:20All those opposed? The matter carries.

53:24Motions, orders, and resolutions.

53:26Councelor Hapworth.

53:28>> Thank you, President Merkel. uh

53:30resolution honoring Eileen Simons.

53:32Sorry.

53:34Whereas Eileen Simons has devoted more

53:36than 25 years of service to the city of

53:38Salem and its residents, including as

53:40assistant city clerk and since 2018 as

53:42city clerk. And whereas throughout her

53:44career, Eileen has served the people of

53:45Salem with professionalism, integrity,

53:47patience, good humor, [snorts] and an

53:49unwavering dedication to public service.

53:51And whereas as city clerk and Salem's

53:53chief election official, Eileen has

53:55overseen the fair, accurate, and orderly

53:56administration of our elections,

53:58faithfully safeguarding the democratic

54:00process and ensuring that Salem's

54:01residents can exercise their most

54:03fundamental civic right with confidence.

54:05Whereas Eileen has been a trusted

54:07partner, confidant, counselor, and

54:09mentor to council countless city

54:11councilors, providing guidance rooted in

54:13deep institutional knowledge, sound

54:15judgment, and enduring respect for the

54:16responsibilities of public office. And

54:19whereas through decades of service at

54:21the center of municipal government,

54:22Eileen has become a steward of the

54:24city's city council's institutional

54:26memory and a guardian of Salem civic

54:27history, customs traditions, preserving

54:30continuity of an institution that

54:31extends far beyond any individual

54:33elected official. And whereas over those

54:36many years, Eileen has seen the full

54:37range of Salem's famously engaged civic

54:39life and has met it with patience,

54:42steadiness, discretion, and good humor.

54:44And whereas her dedication to the city

54:46council, city government, [snorts]

54:47Salem's residents, and the democratic

54:49institutions we share represents the

54:51very best of public service. Now,

54:54therefore, be it resolved that the Salem

54:56City Council on behalf of the residents

54:57of the city of Salem expresses its

54:59profound gratitude to Eileen Simons for

55:01her extraordinary service and for the

55:03wisdom, integrity, steadiness, and

55:05friendship she has brought to City Hall

55:06throughout her distinguished career. And

55:08be it further resolved, the city of

55:09Salem extends its warmest

55:11congratulations to Eileen upon her

55:12retirement and its sincere wishes for

55:14happiness fulfillment in the years

55:16ahead.

55:19>> And I move for adoption.

55:22>> Council Hapworth moves for adoption by

55:24roll call vote. Under discussion,

55:26Councelor Hapworth.

55:27>> Thank you. Uh just really appreciate

55:29Eileen for all the years of service she

55:30gave to the city council. It is not an

55:32easy job serving 11 bosses um and trying

55:35to figure out what the what the

55:36priorities are while um while serving

55:39the public in a very public facing role

55:40in elections. Um every city clerk we've

55:43had we appreciate uh but Eileen Alen

55:45gave 25 years of service uh to the city.

55:49Um and we just appreciate everything she

55:50did for us and and and everything she

55:52did for us individually. A lot of us

55:54couldn't do it without without a good

55:55city clerk. Um um so just appreciate her

55:58and her uh wish her the best in her

56:00retirement.

56:02>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

56:04Councelor Flynn.

56:07>> Thank you, President Merkel. I want to

56:09thank the good at large counselor for

56:10bringing this in. Uh I wanted to bring

56:12this in next month, but I'm glad you did

56:14it now. Uh this is this is welld

56:16deserved. Um I was very fortunate. I

56:19think I'm I am the only one here um that

56:21was on the council when we appointed

56:23Eileen in 2018

56:26and I have seen her do a really good

56:29job. I've always said that the city

56:31clerk's position is is kind of like the

56:34heartbeat to city hall. Everything seems

56:36to go through the city clerk's position.

56:39It is extremely important. And even

56:41though the clerk does work for us,

56:45she definitely guides us at our meetings

56:48and how things um continue. And I want

56:51to wish her a really really long, happy,

56:54healthy um retirement. She she earned

56:56it. Um I love resolutions like this

56:59where we recognize

57:01our citizens and our city employees that

57:03have really done something spectacular

57:05in Salem and um in my mind, Eileen

57:08Simons is one of them. Um, I've always

57:11kind of followed our city clerks. I got

57:14to know some of them. Um, Josephine

57:16Fusco, Deborah Burkenshaw, Cheryl Le

57:18Point, and now Eileen Simons on and that

57:21that's kind of like my um superstar

57:24all-star list there. Um, there's been a

57:26ton of great city clerks. Um, but I've

57:29got to known these these individuals and

57:32I think the most important thing we

57:34should never forget as a council is that

57:36each one learned from the previous one.

57:40I think that's very important because if

57:42you break that chain um you're losing

57:44tradition and you're losing history and

57:47I don't ever want that to happen. I hope

57:49we can continue with tradition and again

57:52Eileen I wish you the very best. Thank

57:54you and um you did a great job. Well

57:58done. Thank you.

57:59>> Thank you.

58:01Any further discussion?

58:03Seeing none on Council Hop's motion for

58:06adoption by roll call vote, a resolution

58:09honoring Eileen Sim Simons, our retired

58:11city clerk. Madame City Clerk, please

58:14call the role. Council Davis,

58:16>> yes.

58:16>> Council Flynn,

58:17>> yes.

58:18>> Council Hap,

58:18>> yes.

58:19>> Council Halapa,

58:20>> yes.

58:20>> Council King,

58:21>> yes.

58:22>> Council Smith,

58:23>> yes.

58:23>> Council Sedoryak,

58:24>> yes.

58:25>> Council Teroski,

58:26>> yes. Council Varela,

58:27>> yes.

58:27>> And Council Merkel,

58:28>> yes.

58:35>> We have 10 members voting. We have 10 in

58:38the affirmative, none in the negative.

58:39The matter carries.

58:42Further motions, orders, and

58:44resolutions. Councelor Smith.

58:46>> Thank you. President Merkel ordered the

58:48committee on ordinances, licenses, and

58:49legal affairs co-posted with the

58:50committee. the whole meeting to discuss

58:51the to discuss uh administrative review

58:54for reasonable accommodations and their

58:55land use and zoning regulations for

58:57individuals with disabilities.

59:00See attached with full description. Uh

59:02the attached uh will show you sorry I

59:05move that uh this uh be referred to the

59:08committee on ordinances license legal

59:10affairs.

59:13>> Okay. Councelor Smith moves that this be

59:16referred to the committee on ordinances,

59:18license, and legal affairs. Under

59:21discussion, Councelor Smith,

59:22>> thank you. Um, you'll see the attached

59:25has the full ordinance. It's it's quite

59:26long. Uh, essentially, I'll just give a

59:28quick background on this. Uh, when

59:30someone has a disability, they need to

59:32put something in, ramp, elevator, be

59:33what, whatever it may be. Uh, change

59:36something on the outside of their home.

59:38Um, there's a long process. And that

59:41process involves going to eventually the

59:43ZBA, the zoning board of appeals, and

59:46presenting the disability, explaining

59:49it, explaining why you need the thing,

59:50waiting for a decision, finally getting

59:52a building permit, building. Uh

59:55sometimes people don't have that time.

59:56They need the uh use and enjoyment of

1:00:00their home as provided by the fair

1:00:01housing laws uh which are linked in the

1:00:04ordinance.

1:00:05um

1:00:07this would cut that process down to be

1:00:10just an internal administrative view

1:00:11review similar to what we did with

1:00:13handicap plates uh where we took that

1:00:15out of the public realm and put it into

1:00:18um you know a simpler process. So I

1:00:22would like to discuss this further

1:00:24specifically and this is why I want uh

1:00:27in in a committee where we can talk

1:00:29about who would do that within the city

1:00:31as well as any other questions and any

1:00:33other things. But I do want folks to

1:00:34weigh in um because we need to discuss

1:00:37that with various city departments and

1:00:38figure out who can actually do this. But

1:00:40I do think it's very valuable. So I hope

1:00:42we'll send it to committee, have that

1:00:44discussion, get this on their way

1:00:45because there there are people that are

1:00:47waiting in this process and it's it's

1:00:49quite convoluted. Thank you.

1:00:52>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:00:54Councelor King.

1:00:56>> Thank you uh President Merkel. I just

1:00:57wanted to thank the W 2 counselor for

1:00:59bringing this in. I think this is the

1:01:00epitome of what we would refer to as a

1:01:02reasonable accommodation for someone

1:01:04with a disability to be able to um still

1:01:06navigate our often difficult city uh

1:01:10processes but in a way that is um

1:01:14reasonable given given the very personal

1:01:16situation that they're dealing with. So

1:01:17thanks.

1:01:19>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:01:22Seeing none on councelor Smith's motion

1:01:24for adoption that the committee on

1:01:27ordinances licensed and legal affairs

1:01:29co-posted with the committee of the

1:01:30whole meet to discuss administrative

1:01:33administrative review for reasonable

1:01:35accommodations for individuals with

1:01:37disabilities. All those in favor? All

1:01:40those opposed. The matter carries.

1:01:44Are there any further motions, orders,

1:01:46and resolutions? Oh,

1:01:57[laughter]

1:01:57>> yes.

1:02:02>> Councelor Varela.

1:02:04>> Thank you, President Merkel. City of

1:02:06Salem City Council December 2024th

1:02:08ordered that the committee on

1:02:10administration and finance co-post of

1:02:12Kamia Hull be discussed the skipper

1:02:14program and any contracts with the Via

1:02:16Transportation Incorporated DVA River

1:02:19North Street Transit LLC of [snorts] New

1:02:21York for an ondemand ride share program.

1:02:26>> Thank you.

1:02:28>> Do you want to bring it up?

1:02:36Thank you. So, acceptance of the late

1:02:40file that the administration and finance

1:02:42committee meet to discuss uh the um the

1:02:46proposed contract with via uh for the

1:02:49skipper and get an update on the skipper

1:02:51in general. Um so, order.

1:02:59>> Thank you.

1:03:01Are there any further motions, orders,

1:03:03and resolutions? Councelor Flynn.

1:03:06>> Thank you, President Merkel. I want to

1:03:09bring a motion to suspend the rules at

1:03:10the next city council meeting, October

1:03:128th, 2026, to take a reconsideration

1:03:15vote on the motion for reconsideration

1:03:17of the city council September 10th, 2026

1:03:21vote to adopt the recommendation of the

1:03:23city seal task force.

1:03:26>> Thank you. Motion accepted to bring in a

1:03:29motion to suspend the rules at the next

1:03:31meeting to take a reconsideration vote

1:03:33on motion for reconsideration of the

1:03:36city council September 10th, 2026 vote

1:03:39to adopt the recommendation of the city

1:03:41to seal task force. Motion accepted.

1:03:46Committee reports. Councelor Varela.

1:03:49>> Thank you, President Merkel. City of

1:03:50Salem and the city council September

1:03:5124th, 2026. The committee on ordinances,

1:03:54license, and legal affairs co-post with

1:03:56the committee of a whole to whom the

1:03:57matter was referred to the matter

1:03:58relative to ordinance amendment relative

1:04:01I'm sorry wait yep the living wage

1:04:03requirement for the city of Salem has

1:04:05considered said matter and would

1:04:06recommend it be discharged from the

1:04:08committee

1:04:10>> on acceptance of the report. All those

1:04:12in favor all those opposed it is so

1:04:15voted on adoption of the recommendation.

1:04:18under discussion. Council Varela.

1:04:20>> Thank you, Council President Merkel.

1:04:22I'll be brief. I just wanted to thank

1:04:24Councelor Davis for the thoughtful

1:04:26conversation. I think it's it's really

1:04:28important that we all talk about how we

1:04:29can

1:04:31really bolster not only our residents,

1:04:34but the employees here and make sure

1:04:36that we're taking care of everyone here

1:04:38within our capacity as city officials.

1:04:41So, thank you, Councelor Davis, for

1:04:43that. Uh concerning the meeting, uh what

1:04:45we kind of came down to, it seems like,

1:04:48you know, when it comes to either

1:04:50[clears throat] a living wage, this

1:04:52could be done through obviously the

1:04:55budget process, uh reclassification with

1:04:58the mayor's office. I think we had a

1:05:00really good conversation with our

1:05:03administration about how we move forward

1:05:06with a little more transparency as far

1:05:09as making sure we're all on the same

1:05:11page. Um, so I think, you know, this was

1:05:14a very a very productive conversation

1:05:16and I do believe going into budget

1:05:18season next year, I think it kind of

1:05:20changes the dynamic a little bit about

1:05:22about what employees are getting paid

1:05:24and making sure that everyone is is

1:05:26being paid more of a wage and that we're

1:05:28we're we're addressing that and we're

1:05:30not making we're making sure that our

1:05:32wages are not stagnant within our city

1:05:34employees. Thank you.

1:05:36>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:05:40Seeing none on adoption of the

1:05:42recommendation council's motion that the

1:05:45matter of the living wage ordinance be

1:05:48discharged. All those in favor all those

1:05:51opposed the matter carries. Further

1:05:54committee reports.

1:05:56Councelor Hapworth.

1:05:59Thank you. President Merkel. Uh city of

1:06:01Salem and city council December uh

1:06:03September 24th 2026. The committee on

1:06:05ordin uh public health safety and the

1:06:08environment co-posted with the committee

1:06:09of the whole tombs referred the matter

1:06:11of the camping ordinance to review the

1:06:12policy and get updates from the police

1:06:14department has considered said matter

1:06:15and recommended it remain in committee

1:06:18>> on acceptance of the report. All those

1:06:20in favor all those opposed so voted on

1:06:23adoption of the recommendation under

1:06:25discussion. Councelor Hapwart.

1:06:27>> Thank you President Merkel. Um just want

1:06:30to thank everyone in the committee and

1:06:31the committee the whole for the

1:06:32conversation that we had. I thought it

1:06:33was um a thoughtful, respectful, and

1:06:37productive conversation on uh what is a

1:06:40what is a charge topic in many many

1:06:42cities across this country. I want to

1:06:43thank um the police department for a

1:06:47very professional and thorough

1:06:48presentation. Uh also, I just I think

1:06:50that going back to 2024, I think we

1:06:53continue um to discuss this matter even

1:06:57though we may disagree on policy. I

1:06:59think we continue to discuss this matter

1:07:01um in a way that centers our unhoused

1:07:03neighbors. And again, I think that I

1:07:06think we have disagreements on policy

1:07:08and the best way to address them. But

1:07:10going back to 2024, we first started

1:07:12this conversation forward to today. Um I

1:07:16think we're a rare city that that

1:07:18centers [snorts] the most marginalized

1:07:20in our community in that conversation.

1:07:22Um, and there are no easy answers here.

1:07:25And, uh, I think we're lucky to have the

1:07:27Salem CIU and the work that they do,

1:07:29which has been on the ground for almost

1:07:3020 years now. Um, trying to work in an

1:07:34often impossible situation to help every

1:07:37single individual in Salem on an

1:07:39individual basis. Um, so just appreciate

1:07:41the the committee for the conversation,

1:07:43appreciate the tone of the conversation,

1:07:44and appreciate everyone in Salem who's

1:07:47working to make this um um this

1:07:50situation uh better or easier or just um

1:07:54less impossible. Um thank you.

1:07:57>> Thank you. Any further discussion,

1:08:01Councelor Davis?

1:08:02>> Thank you, President Merkel. Yeah, I

1:08:03thought it was a a great meeting. It was

1:08:05great to hear an an update. Um, I'm glad

1:08:08that that kind of we're maintaining that

1:08:11as an annual kind of check-in. Um, the

1:08:13Q&A was really helpful. Um, I just

1:08:17wanted to name I guess a couple things

1:08:19that have kind of been on my mind as we

1:08:21have these conversations um about how to

1:08:24deal with this issue.

1:08:26One of them being I think there's a

1:08:30difficulty in a lot of the conversations

1:08:33happened recently where it's not

1:08:36possible for us to abide by the kind of

1:08:38principle of um nothing about us without

1:08:41us right uh during the the city seal

1:08:43conversation um you know we're not

1:08:46fortunate to have the AAPI uh community

1:08:49representing this council um during this

1:08:51conversation you know we don't have the

1:08:52perspective of someone that's unhoused

1:08:54on this council um it is what it is. I

1:08:57just want to kind of um name that and I

1:09:00think that it gives us uh all more of a

1:09:04responsibility to make sure that we are

1:09:06having conversations with unhoused

1:09:08people and and and advocates of unhoused

1:09:10people. Um I think that's a hard thing

1:09:12to do um when our circles and and the

1:09:14people that tend to reach out to us

1:09:16[snorts]

1:09:17um are people with homes. Um,

1:09:23we saw a lot of I think pictures and and

1:09:27videos at the presentation last night um

1:09:31of people that are unhoused um with with

1:09:35substance abuse disorders um engage in

1:09:38um domestic uh kind of disputes. Um I

1:09:42understand the context of why these

1:09:43things were brought up. I think it's

1:09:45important to I think just contextualize

1:09:48that and remember that these things

1:09:51happen also in the homes of people that

1:09:54are housed. Um we just don't have

1:09:57pictures and videos of it. Um it it it

1:10:00goes on without us knowing um in the

1:10:03private lives of people. Um, I point

1:10:05that out because I think very easily in

1:10:07these conversations we can get to a

1:10:10level unintentionally where we where

1:10:13where dehumanization happens um when

1:10:15we're painting um generalizations in a

1:10:18picture of people. There was a statistic

1:10:21or I guess I'd say more of kind of a

1:10:23guesstimate that was mentioned last

1:10:25night um that perhaps 70% of people that

1:10:28are unhoused suffer from substance

1:10:30abuse. Um

1:10:32the mental health services um

1:10:34administration um statistics show that

1:10:37it's uh more like 38% of unhoused people

1:10:40struggle with um alcohol abuse while 26%

1:10:43um abuse or misuse other drugs which is

1:10:45quite different um number um and that

1:10:48actually 2/3 of those with substance

1:10:51abuse issues develop the problem after

1:10:53they became homeless. Um, so I think

1:10:56that just it kind of speaks to

1:10:58dispelling this kind of notion that that

1:11:02people tend to have that um that either

1:11:05addiction problems lead to homelessness

1:11:07or that the vast majority of people that

1:11:09are are homeless um suffer from those

1:11:12issues. Neither of which are true. Um

1:11:14and it's also really interesting how how

1:11:16few how many people are shocked by the

1:11:18statistic that around 50% of people who

1:11:21are unhoused are employed. Um, so I

1:11:25think just just

1:11:28being accurate and and and

1:11:30contextualizing um that is is very

1:11:34important um to to kind of not give into

1:11:37those kinds of generalizations. So want

1:11:39to put that out there. Thank you.

1:11:40>> Thank [snorts] you. Any further

1:11:41discussion? Councelor Hoff.

1:11:44>> Thank you, President Merkel. I was

1:11:45really grateful to have that

1:11:46conversation last night. You I want to

1:11:48mention for the for the sake of the room

1:11:50uh folks at home who weren't here like

1:11:51you know the room was packed. It was

1:11:53full of folks that uh feel very uh

1:11:55passionately about this complicated

1:11:57topic. Um and one of the takeaways that

1:12:01I had from both the presentation and

1:12:03from talking to some folks afterwards uh

1:12:05is that again folks care a lot about

1:12:07this and to paraphrase one of the slides

1:12:10um from the the police department

1:12:12presentation. Uh there are you know

1:12:14ongoing issues that are still are still

1:12:16persisting. Uh we learned that the

1:12:18number of unhoused folks in the city

1:12:20have probably doubled over the last year

1:12:22or the last two years, excuse me. Um

1:12:24incident reports that they respond to

1:12:26are still on the rise. There are ongoing

1:12:29concerns about um

1:12:32what's the right word for it? Think uh

1:12:35belongings that are left in public

1:12:36spaces uh and whether or not like those

1:12:39are at first glance safe. I had an issue

1:12:41with that in my ward a few weeks ago

1:12:42where there was something that was left

1:12:43in an area that I had heard reports that

1:12:46there was some some drug activity in the

1:12:48area. So, I did call the CIU to come

1:12:50help me with that and I was very

1:12:50grateful for that. Um, and I'm I'm

1:12:54looking forward to the conversation

1:12:55we're going to have about amendments to

1:12:57the camping ordinance, but I also really

1:12:59think that, you know, this is, of

1:13:02course, a large and complicated issue

1:13:03that I don't think anyone has really

1:13:05solved yet. But I'm really open to ideas

1:13:07from um other counselors about how we

1:13:11can try to continue that conversation

1:13:14separate from the camping conversation.

1:13:16How can we have conversations about how

1:13:18to deal with some of the impact that our

1:13:20housed and unhoused residents are

1:13:22facing? Um I my my takeaway from the

1:13:26meeting was that the I think the very

1:13:28clearly the camping ordinance is not

1:13:31fully achieving the hope which I don't

1:13:33think anyone fully believed that it was

1:13:34going to solve homelessness. Right? I

1:13:36remember hearing listening to committee

1:13:37meetings the last session of council

1:13:39that it was acknowledgement that this

1:13:40was not going to solve everything. Uh

1:13:42but I do really want to have those

1:13:44conversations. I think those

1:13:45conversations are probably more valuable

1:13:46than the conversations around this

1:13:49specific ordinance. Uh, and I'm open to

1:13:52thoughts about process and solution.

1:13:55Thank you.

1:13:56>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:13:59Councelor Flynn.

1:14:01>> Thank you, President Merkel. I also I

1:14:03just want to go on the record to say

1:14:05that um it was really an eyeopening

1:14:07meeting last night and the presentation

1:14:09from the police. um you know hearing uh

1:14:13the officers say besides Lynn Salem on

1:14:16the Northshore is one of the most

1:14:18affected with unhoused population. So,

1:14:21um, you know, Chief Miller, Captain

1:14:24Burke, and his staff, I I can't imagine

1:14:27what they go through daily. And, um, I'm

1:14:29glad that the previous council came up

1:14:31with the cap camping ordinance to, uh,

1:14:34give them some tools, um, cuz it seems

1:14:36like they really did make a difference

1:14:39to a lot of people and and placed a lot

1:14:41of people as well. And, um, I can't

1:14:43imagine without that um, how they would

1:14:46be able to do their job. So, um, again,

1:14:48once again, I want to give a shout out

1:14:50to our police department and thank each

1:14:51of the officers for all they do. Thank

1:14:53you.

1:14:54>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:14:58Seeing none on councelor Hworth's motion

1:15:00that the matter of the camping ordinance

1:15:02review remain in committee. All those in

1:15:05favor? All those opposed? The matter

1:15:07carries.

1:15:10Communications from city officials.

1:15:15We have a communication from the

1:15:16veterans agent Kim Emerling requesting

1:15:19council's consideration for naming a new

1:15:21veteran square O'Neal Square which would

1:15:23be located at the corner of Lafayette

1:15:25Street in College Drive in Ward 7. And

1:15:28this is for US Captain Army Captain

1:15:30Walter C. O'Neal.

1:15:32Councelor Varela.

1:15:34>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move that

1:15:36this be adopted.

1:15:37>> Council Varela moves for adoption. Under

1:15:38discussion, Council Varela.

1:15:40>> Thank you, President Merkel. I'll be

1:15:41brief. Just wanted to thank uh our

1:15:43veteran agent Kim Emerly for his

1:15:47consideration and diligence on making

1:15:49sure we're thoughtful about honoring our

1:15:52veterans here in Salem. So, thank you

1:15:54Kim and uh looking forward to the event.

1:15:56>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:16:00Seeing none, I'm council's motion for

1:16:03adoption the naming of the new veteran

1:16:05square O'Neal Square to be located at

1:16:08the corner of Lafayette Street and

1:16:09College Drive. All those in favor? All

1:16:12those opposed. The matter carries.

1:16:15Further communications from city

1:16:16officials. We have ordered per the Salem

1:16:19Salem's traffic ordinance section 28

1:16:22experimental regulations for the propose

1:16:24of a trial. Dodge Street shall be one

1:16:27way in an eastbound direction from Dodge

1:16:30Street Court to Lafayette Street. And

1:16:32this condition will be in effect from

1:16:34October 1st to October 31st of 2026.

1:16:38Councelor King. Thank you, President

1:16:40Merkel. I move that this be tabled.

1:16:43>> Councelor King moves that this be

1:16:45tabled. Under discussion, Councelor

1:16:47King.

1:16:48>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um, so this

1:16:50is related to the next agenda item,

1:16:53which is related to taxi, ride, share,

1:16:54pickup, and drop off activities, which

1:16:56I'm a huge fan of. Very excited about us

1:16:58pursuing that as a city. Um, the issue

1:17:01with this particular street is that

1:17:04turning it one way could possibly impact

1:17:06the businesses. And there's a also a

1:17:08apartment building that's kind of right

1:17:10on the street. And none of the

1:17:11businesses or residents were necessarily

1:17:14informed or consulted about uh this

1:17:16happening. Um and while I understand

1:17:19it's just a one-mon trial, it is also

1:17:20the busiest month of the year for all

1:17:22those businesses. So I spoke with

1:17:24director Kucharski uh earlier today and

1:17:26basically indicated that I would be

1:17:28pushing a table it so we could have a

1:17:30chance to talk to those businesses and

1:17:31warn them about it. um and then we can

1:17:33bring this back at our meeting in the uh

1:17:36middle of October and then they can do

1:17:38the trial for the back half of October

1:17:40essentially and he was fine with that

1:17:41solution. So just wanted to make sure

1:17:43that the businesses have enough time to

1:17:45be aware and prepare for that uh change

1:17:47to the traffic pattern on their street.

1:17:50Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:17:53Seeing none, on Councelor King's motion

1:17:55uh that the trial for Dodge Street to be

1:17:58one way in an eastbound direction uh

1:18:01through October 1st to October 31st be

1:18:04tabled. All those in favor? All those

1:18:07opposed? The matter carries. Further

1:18:10communications from city officials.

1:18:13We have an order that the following

1:18:14locations identified below shall be

1:18:17designated for taxi and ride share

1:18:19pickup drop off activities. North

1:18:21Street,

1:18:22>> wave the reading. I don't know if we can

1:18:24do that on the city clerk or not, but

1:18:29>> okay. Councelor Hapworth.

1:18:33>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

1:18:35adoption.

1:18:36>> Councelor Hapworth moves for adoption.

1:18:38Under discussion, councelor Hapworth.

1:18:40>> Thank you. Uh so this is um this is this

1:18:43could have come out come to us as an

1:18:45ordinance. has come as an order for uh

1:18:46for a trial this October on um Saturdays

1:18:50and Sundays in October. Um this is the

1:18:55issue that we run into with the with uh

1:18:57ride shares and taxis is that we close

1:18:59streets. We're already closing streets

1:19:01uh by midepptember. This is the earliest

1:19:03I think that we've been closing a vast

1:19:05majority of the downtown streets

1:19:06including every single street around my

1:19:08house uh during soccer games. Um but it

1:19:11makes it very very difficult for ride

1:19:12share pickups. Uh so this is

1:19:15establishing set places uh for those to

1:19:17happen. Uh it's uh uh the intersection

1:19:22of it's North Street, the Green Trail,

1:19:24Margin Street, uh Dodge Street we just

1:19:25mentioned, and the Old Salem Jail

1:19:27parking lot. Um the Green Trail, by the

1:19:29way, is the uh at the head of Leslie's

1:19:31Retreat Park. Uh Uber and Lift have

1:19:34already been notified and apparently are

1:19:36able to make that make that adjustment

1:19:38uh for this month of October. Um, and it

1:19:40was it was discussed and adopted by the

1:19:43transportation commission as a as a

1:19:44trial.

1:19:46>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:19:49Councelor Smith.

1:19:50>> Thank you, President Merkel. Just want

1:19:52to say because this is a lot of a lot of

1:19:54my area there. The um uh this is

1:19:56fantastic for downtown. I think it's

1:19:58something that people have been asking

1:19:59for for a long time. similar to an

1:20:01airport or similar to any other any

1:20:03venue and event where there would be set

1:20:05zones people can go there and then the

1:20:07cars aren't thinking they can get

1:20:08downtown and getting stopped at a gate

1:20:10and trying to turn around. Um so I'm so

1:20:13thrilled that they brought this and uh I

1:20:16hope this trial goes well. I'm I'm very

1:20:18hopeful. Thank you.

1:20:19>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:20:22Seeing none on councelor Hapworth's

1:20:25motion that the designated locations for

1:20:27taxi and ride share pickups and drop

1:20:29offs be adopted. All those in favor? All

1:20:32those opposed? The matter carries.

1:20:35Further communications from city

1:20:37officials. We have a report from the

1:20:39planning board regarding zoning proposed

1:20:41amendment to section 3.1 table of uses

1:20:44for data centers. Councelor Terroski.

1:20:47Thank you, President Merkel. I move that

1:20:48this be received and filed. on councelor

1:20:50Trosky's motion that this be received

1:20:52and filed. All those in favor? All those

1:20:54opposed? The matter carries. Further

1:20:57communications from city officials.

1:21:00>> We have number 385 section 1 section

1:21:033.1.

1:21:04>> The reading.

1:21:09>> Uh council Varela.

1:21:12>> Thank you president Merkel. Move for

1:21:14adoption for first passage uh while also

1:21:18referring this to committee on

1:21:19ordinances licensed legal affairs

1:21:21co-post with the committee

1:21:25and I do have some amendments as well.

1:21:36I just want to check it.

1:21:55If you like to read it, that's fine.

1:21:57>> Okay. Councelor Bella moves uh for

1:22:00adoption for first passage and also to

1:22:04refer to the committee on ordinance,

1:22:06license, and legal affairs co-posted

1:22:08with the committee of the whole under

1:22:10discussion. Councelor Varela.

1:22:12>> Thank you, President Merkel. So, uh, we

1:22:15did get our recommendation from the

1:22:17planning board back and I would like to

1:22:20make an amendment to that before we vote

1:22:22on it. So my motion

1:22:26So make a motion to include the addition

1:22:28of

1:22:31and has an aggregate power demand of 2

1:22:33megawws or higher to the end of the

1:22:36first sentence of the definition of data

1:22:38center.

1:22:42>> Can you repeat that

1:22:44slowly?

1:22:45>> Slowly.

1:22:46>> Yeah. The motion is to include the

1:22:48addition of and here we go and has an

1:22:52aggregate power demand

1:22:55of 2 megawws or higher

1:22:59to the end of the first sentence of the

1:23:02definition of data center. So again and

1:23:06has an aggregate power demand of 2

1:23:08megawws or higher.

1:23:16And where does that go at the end of

1:23:18>> that goes the end of the definition of

1:23:20data center

1:23:23>> for clarity this is the exact

1:23:24recommendation of the planning board if

1:23:25if we're worried about catching that

1:23:27exact language.

1:23:28>> Yeah. At the end of definition of

1:23:33the end of definition of what's

1:23:35>> of the data center

1:23:36>> of data center. Okay. Okay. So we have a

1:23:40motion uh by councelor Varela to include

1:23:44addition of NH has an aggravate an

1:23:47aggregate power demand of 2 megawws or

1:23:51higher at the end of the definition of

1:23:54data center.

1:23:56Do we have a second? And then I'll put

1:23:59it under discussion.

1:24:01Seconded by councelor king.

1:24:03>> Yes.

1:24:05Do we have a second? Yes. Okay. Your

1:24:08microphone wasn't on. Okay. Seconded

1:24:12by councelor King.

1:24:15Under discussion. Councelor Varela.

1:24:18>> Thank you, President Merkel. So, this is

1:24:21exactly why we have to have the second

1:24:22meeting. Um, also I do believe that

1:24:25residents want a little more clarity on

1:24:27data centers and I think that we need a

1:24:29little more opportunity to discuss maybe

1:24:31why this works or doesn't work for Salem

1:24:35and and why we've made these amendments.

1:24:37So that's again why we'll be having a

1:24:38committee meeting. Thank you.

1:24:40>> Thank you. Any further discussion on uh

1:24:43the the proposed uh amendment?

1:24:47Councelor Halapa.

1:24:49>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um with

1:24:52regard to the amendment, I am opposed.

1:24:55I'm happy to have this conversation in

1:24:56committee, but if the motion is if if

1:24:58this amendment passes, I will be voting

1:25:00against sending this to committee in

1:25:02first passage. And I'll try to explain

1:25:04why.

1:25:05Picture, if you will, biking to city

1:25:08hall, locking up your bike, and in the

1:25:10summer, an air conditioner blowing in

1:25:12your face all of the heat from, I think,

1:25:14the elections office that is right next

1:25:16to that. Now, picture about 4,000 of

1:25:19those blowing heat out of a 2 megawatt

1:25:23data center.

1:25:25The unique thing with data centers

1:25:26compared to many other uses that we are

1:25:29used to is that nearly 100% of the

1:25:32energy that is consumed is turned

1:25:34directly into heat. Many other things

1:25:37will have some sort of motion or light.

1:25:412 megawatts of heat is an egregious

1:25:43amount of heat to have in a small area.

1:25:47It is I suspect it is probably the most

1:25:49heat output per square foot of any use

1:25:51that we could imagine. Um, I don't think

1:25:53that's appropriate for the city. I'm

1:25:56fairly concerned about it. Um, I have

1:25:58other concerns about the language of how

1:26:00this would work. If the if the amendment

1:26:02passes,

1:26:04this would put a no in our table of acce

1:26:07acceptable uses for data centers of 2

1:26:10megawatt capacity and more. But we still

1:26:13would not have a use for less than that,

1:26:17which means it's still not allowed. So,

1:26:19I'm not really sure that's achieving

1:26:22what we'd like. I would rather put this

1:26:24into committee without the amendment and

1:26:26have this as a full discussion rather

1:26:27than with the amendment. Thank you.

1:26:29>> Thank you, Council King.

1:26:32>> Thank you. Um, and just to just to

1:26:33clarify, um, the amendment as

1:26:36recommended by the planning board was to

1:26:38insert that line at the end of the first

1:26:40sentence of the definition of data

1:26:43center, which is a whole paragraph. So

1:26:44just I don't know if uh the W 7 council

1:26:47wants to amend his motion but um it's it

1:26:50would read data center or facility

1:26:52portion thereof yada yada yada yada yada

1:26:54storage processing management of

1:26:56transmission of electronic data and has

1:26:58an aggregate power demand of two megawws

1:27:00or higher and then it would go into the

1:27:02rest of the definition. So it's inserted

1:27:05there. I have al also thoughts but I

1:27:07just wanted to offer that clarification

1:27:09first. Thank you.

1:27:12Uh I don't know who I saw first. Um

1:27:15actually you haven't spoken so counselor

1:27:18how uh

1:27:18>> just a point of clarity not not on the

1:27:19issue but on the uh on the process. Uh

1:27:22we can amend it here right now if we

1:27:24want to send it to committee change the

1:27:26amendment amend the amendment. We've

1:27:27done that many times. We can bring it

1:27:28back as long as it's within the four

1:27:30corners of the zoning ordinance. That's

1:27:31fine. We could also take what we have

1:27:33right now, uh, send that to committee,

1:27:35[snorts] discuss the amendment, figure

1:27:37out where we want to be on on the

1:27:38megawatts and what that exactly means

1:27:40and talk to somebody who has some more

1:27:42knowledge around that. Um, either one

1:27:44works. Uh, if if, for instance, we amend

1:27:47it tonight and you're opposed to that

1:27:48amendment, you can still vote yes, send

1:27:51it to committee, and then bring it back

1:27:52and hopefully if you want to change it,

1:27:54you're able to change it in committee

1:27:56and and amend it uh, coming back from

1:27:58there.

1:27:59>> Thank you.

1:27:59>> As long as that stays within the four

1:28:00corners. Obviously, we're not changing

1:28:02the ordinance substantively.

1:28:04>> Thank you. Thank you for the clarity.

1:28:08>> Okay, Councelor King.

1:28:10>> Okay. Thank you. Um I just wanted to

1:28:12echo the thoughts of the W 6 counselor.

1:28:14Um I obviously staying within the four

1:28:17corners of the ordinance is uh a little

1:28:19difficult given all the different um

1:28:21items that was discussed during the

1:28:22joint public hearing with the planning

1:28:24board, but we talked a lot about noise

1:28:26and environmental impact and all sorts

1:28:29of other things that aren't really

1:28:30included in this language that I think

1:28:32should be at least discussed in a

1:28:34committee meeting and seeing if there's

1:28:35any way to include that while staying

1:28:36within the four corners of the

1:28:37ordinance. Um, and I'll just make a note

1:28:39that that we could also at any point

1:28:41just do a temporary moratorium on data

1:28:43centers for like a year while we figure

1:28:44this out for a future meeting. So that's

1:28:47another option if we feel rushed.

1:28:50>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:28:52Councelor Smith.

1:28:54>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um, so just

1:28:56to cl I want to clarify that the a the

1:28:58motion right now is for first passage

1:29:01and to send it to committee. So, we

1:29:03would be we we want something that at

1:29:05least I would say goes with with what

1:29:08the planning board has has recommended.

1:29:11It's a good recommendation in some ways,

1:29:13but we definitely need to have this

1:29:14discussion. 2 megawatt is incredibly

1:29:16noisy still. Uh it is a low humming

1:29:20noise that can penetrate through walls

1:29:22to up to a half a mile. [snorts] There

1:29:24is a lot of heat generated potentially,

1:29:26although the cooling is often done air

1:29:28cooled here in our climate. That's

1:29:30probably why people like to be here. Um

1:29:33there are things to consider about land

1:29:35use. There are things to consider.

1:29:36There's so much more beyond this power

1:29:38and water and the things that we think

1:29:40of. Uh I would say that there is a haste

1:29:43around this and that is why it seemed

1:29:46like some kind of a moratorum rather

1:29:48than a full I guess this would be the

1:29:50way to do it may be a good stop gap

1:29:53solution. So we should move this forward

1:29:56while also sending it to committee so

1:29:58that we have a chance to uh work with it

1:30:01a little bit but we are going to have to

1:30:03do this pretty quickly. Uh I am also

1:30:06still concerned if we set this 2

1:30:07megawatt limit. What's happened below is

1:30:10is it could probably be found as an

1:30:13acceptable use through the zoning board

1:30:15of appeals process provided they didn't

1:30:18do something like lie on an application.

1:30:21Uh it would typically go through. So

1:30:24maybe, you know, we just don't know. I

1:30:26think we have so many questions here and

1:30:27we really need to have this discussion

1:30:29soon. I'm willing I want to vote for

1:30:31this, but I am I'm very concerned about

1:30:34that 2 megawatt number not really

1:30:36necessarily reflecting the reality of

1:30:39what will be disturbing to neighbors in

1:30:41our very dense city. At the same time, I

1:30:44do understand edge computing and the

1:30:46need for some of these smaller data

1:30:48centers that we aren't what we think of

1:30:50as a data center in order to facilitate

1:30:53various medical uh operations

1:30:55[clears throat]

1:30:56uh schools. They they need this kind of

1:30:58uh infrastructure, but it is quite a bit

1:31:00smaller than what we're talking about

1:31:02here. Um so there may be a different

1:31:04number. We just need some experts and we

1:31:06just need some folks to weigh in and we

1:31:07need to look into this. this was uh very

1:31:10quick that we got this back from them

1:31:13and then had to kind of decide within

1:31:15two days. So, thank you to the W seven

1:31:17counselor for pushing this towards a

1:31:19committee.

1:31:20>> Thank you. And um just for clarity and

1:31:24correct me if I'm wrong, councelor

1:31:25Varela, uh when it's uh moves for

1:31:27adoption for first passage and referred

1:31:30to uh the OLA committee of the whole, we

1:31:32would have the committee meeting first

1:31:34before we would vote for second passage.

1:31:38So that's how how this would play out

1:31:40for clarity. We would have the committee

1:31:42meeting and then have it before a second

1:31:45passage vote. Councelor Gerowski. Thank

1:31:48you, President Merkel. Um I I did just

1:31:50want to echo the concerns for noise and

1:31:52for greenhouse gas emissions that I

1:31:54think are definitely worth um redising

1:31:58in the light of this 2 megawatt limit.

1:32:01Um, I had a conversation just today with

1:32:03some representatives from the Salem

1:32:05Academy who are quite concerned about

1:32:06background noise um and other

1:32:08environmental conditions affecting the

1:32:10learning environment of of their

1:32:11students. Um, 2 megawws is I think a

1:32:15third of what was in the the proposal

1:32:18that was rejected um from uh Prime the

1:32:21other day. I think that was six megawws.

1:32:22Um, but I think just some time to really

1:32:24look at this closely and consider it as

1:32:26a body um because we really haven't had

1:32:28the time to do that yet. So, I look

1:32:29forward to that discussion. Thank you.

1:32:31Thank you. Any further discussion? And

1:32:34we're still on the amendment. There will

1:32:36be discussion if whether even if it

1:32:40passes or not passes, there will still

1:32:42be opportunity. Uh any more discussion

1:32:44on the proposed uh amendment?

1:32:48Okay. Seeing none, on the proposed

1:32:52amendment uh by councelor Varela,

1:32:54seconded by councelor King,

1:32:57uh to include the addition of and has an

1:33:00aggregate power demand of 2 megawws or

1:33:04higher at the end of the addition uh

1:33:07definition of data center.

1:33:10All those in favor?

1:33:12All those opposed?

1:33:15The amendment carries.

1:33:19Okay, back to uh the the motion by

1:33:22councelor Varela for adoption for first

1:33:25passage as amended and also um to be

1:33:31referred to the committee on ordinances,

1:33:33license and legal affairs co-posted the

1:33:36committee of the whole any further

1:33:38discussion

1:33:42seeing none.

1:33:44So, I'll repeat it just for clarity uh

1:33:46for for on council Varela's motion for

1:33:48adoption for first passage by roll call

1:33:50vote as amended and also referred to the

1:33:53committee and ordinances license and

1:33:55legal affairs co-posted with the

1:33:56committee of the whole a zoning

1:33:58ordinance relative to data centers.

1:34:01Madame city clerk, please call the role.

1:34:05>> Councelor Davis,

1:34:06>> yes.

1:34:06>> And council Flynn,

1:34:08>> yes.

1:34:08>> Council Hapworth,

1:34:09>> yes.

1:34:10>> Council Hapa,

1:34:11>> no.

1:34:13Council King,

1:34:14>> yes.

1:34:15>> Council Smith,

1:34:16>> yes.

1:34:17>> Council Sedorak,

1:34:18>> yes.

1:34:19>> Council Terroski,

1:34:20>> yes.

1:34:20>> Council Varela,

1:34:21>> yes.

1:34:22>> And Council Merkel,

1:34:23>> yes.

1:34:34Thank you. We have 10 members voting. We

1:34:37have nine in the affirmative, one in the

1:34:39negative. The matter carries.

1:34:43Further communications from city

1:34:45officials. We have a report from the

1:34:47planning board regarding zoning

1:34:48amendment for a two family dwelling

1:34:50units parking minimum.

1:34:53Um councelor King.

1:34:55>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move that

1:34:56this be received and filed.

1:34:58>> On Councelor King's motion that this be

1:35:00received and filed. All those in favor?

1:35:03All those opposed? The matter carries.

1:35:06Further communications from city

1:35:08officials. We have amended section 5.1.8

1:35:12table of required parking spaces by

1:35:14deleting the phrase dwellings to family

1:35:17in the first row of the table. B adding

1:35:19the phrase dwellings two family to the

1:35:22second row of the table. So it reads use

1:35:24dwellings two family dwellings multif

1:35:26family required parking none. Section

1:35:30two amends section 6.11.8

1:35:33Eight, parking and loading. A inserting

1:35:36inserting the phrase in two family

1:35:38dwelling units after four multif family

1:35:41dwelling units at the beginning of this

1:35:43section. In section three amending

1:35:46section 8.7.8.4

1:35:49development standards parking standards

1:35:53section B parking ratios section I by

1:35:56inserting the phrase in two family

1:35:58dwellings after four multif family

1:36:01dwellings. Council Varela.

1:36:03>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

1:36:05first passage by roll call vote.

1:36:08>> Council Varela moves for adoption for

1:36:10first passage by roll call vote. Under

1:36:12discussion, Council Varela.

1:36:14>> Thank you, President Merkel, and thank

1:36:16you for council King for bringing this

1:36:17in. I I do believe this is consistent

1:36:19with what uh the planning department is

1:36:22doing with parking minimums. This is

1:36:24just something that I think is a

1:36:26benefit. So, thank you for bringing this

1:36:27in. It's a it's a no-brainer.

1:36:32Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:36:34Councelor King.

1:36:36>> Thank you, President Merkel, and thank

1:36:37you to the uh planning board for their

1:36:39unanimous recommendation that we move

1:36:41forward with this language. Um, we had a

1:36:43great discussion during our joint public

1:36:45hearing uh with the planning board and I

1:36:47was um particularly excited about the

1:36:50the language around and the and the

1:36:53discussion around how this really

1:36:54encourages more variety in our housing

1:36:56in Salem and having um more opportunity

1:36:59for two family dwellings to be built um

1:37:01which is just a such a unique housing

1:37:04opportunity both for um certain styles

1:37:07of families and also a great opportunity

1:37:08for first-time home buyers as well. So,

1:37:10I just am excited that this would

1:37:12encourage that style of housing. There's

1:37:14lots of other arguments for it too that

1:37:16we discussed last year um before I was

1:37:18on the council, but that is the thing I

1:37:20am most excited about. Thanks. Thank

1:37:22you. Any further discussion?

1:37:25Seeing none,

1:37:27councelor,

1:37:29sorry about that. Council's motion for

1:37:32adoption for first passage uh by roll

1:37:34call vote the amendments to parking

1:37:37space requirements for two family

1:37:39dwellings. Madame city clerk, please

1:37:41call the role. Council Davis,

1:37:43>> yes.

1:37:44>> Council Flynn,

1:37:45>> no.

1:37:46>> Council Hwart,

1:37:48>> yes.

1:37:49>> Council Halapa,

1:37:50>> yes.

1:37:50>> Council King,

1:37:52>> yes.

1:37:52>> Council Smith,

1:37:53>> yes.

1:37:54>> Council Sedorak,

1:37:55>> yes.

1:37:55>> Council Terroski,

1:37:56>> yes.

1:37:57>> Council Varela, yes. And council Merkel,

1:37:59>> yes.

1:38:07We have 10 members voting. We have nine

1:38:10in the affirmative, one in the negative.

1:38:12The matter carries.

1:38:16Further communications from city

1:38:18officials. We have communication from

1:38:20the interim city clerk, Maren Fischer,

1:38:23submitting the 2026 state election

1:38:25order. And this goes from page 15 to

1:38:28page 36.

1:38:30>> We have the reading.

1:38:31>> The reading. Thank you.

1:38:34>> Council Horth.

1:38:35>> Councelor Hapworth.

1:38:40>> Believe I'm looking for adoption. But

1:38:42>> I'm sorry.

1:38:43>> Roll scroll

1:38:45>> on the top of page 36.

1:38:47>> Getting there.

1:38:49I'm getting there. Thank you though.

1:38:52>> It's a big uh uh Thank you, President

1:38:54Murv. Move for adoption by roll call

1:38:55vote.

1:38:56>> Councelor Hapworth moves for adoption by

1:38:58roll call vote. Under discussion,

1:39:00councelor Hapworth.

1:39:01>> No discussion.

1:39:02>> Any further discussion?

1:39:05>> Seeing none on council Hapworth's motion

1:39:07for adoption by roll call vote the 2026

1:39:10state election order. Madam city clerk,

1:39:12please call the role. Council Davis,

1:39:15>> yes.

1:39:15>> Council Flynn,

1:39:16>> yes.

1:39:17>> Council Hart,

1:39:18>> yes.

1:39:18>> Council Hapa,

1:39:19>> yes.

1:39:19>> Council King,

1:39:20>> yes.

1:39:21>> Council Smith,

1:39:22>> yes. Council Sedorak,

1:39:23>> yes.

1:39:24>> Council Terroski,

1:39:25>> yes.

1:39:25>> Council Varela,

1:39:26>> yes.

1:39:26>> And council Merkel,

1:39:28>> yes.

1:39:34>> We have 10 members voting. We have 10 in

1:39:36the affirmative, none in the negative.

1:39:38The matter carries.

1:39:40Petitions.

1:39:44We have across from National Grid to

1:39:46locate relocate one jointly owned pole

1:39:48on Summit A at the corner of Summit A in

1:39:50Eden Street.

1:39:52Hearing ordered on October 8th, 2026.

1:39:57Further petitions. We have a request

1:39:59from the residents of Orange Square to

1:40:01hold a block party on Halloween, October

1:40:0331st, 2026 from 3 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.

1:40:06Council Sidoriaak.

1:40:08>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

1:40:09this to be granted.

1:40:11>> Council Doryak moves that this be

1:40:12granted. Under discussion, Council

1:40:14Sidoriaak.

1:40:14>> Uh, if you've not been to Orange Square

1:40:16before, it's the [clears throat] cutest

1:40:18little neighborhood. It's right around

1:40:19the corner from me. It looks like a

1:40:21little English cottage uh neighborhood

1:40:23and they do a fantastic job dressing it

1:40:25up for the October season. So seeing

1:40:27that they're going to do a block party

1:40:29on Halloween is going to be pretty cool.

1:40:31So excited for it.

1:40:33>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:40:35Seeing none on council Sedorak's motion

1:40:38uh that the Orange Street Orange Square

1:40:41block party on October 31st be granted.

1:40:44All those in favor? All those opposed?

1:40:46The matter carries. Further petitions.

1:40:49We have a long list of public guides.

1:40:52Councelor Varela.

1:40:54>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move

1:40:56that's be granted.

1:40:57>> Council Varela moves that these be

1:40:59granted. Under discussion, Council

1:41:00Varela,

1:41:00>> no discussion.

1:41:02>> On Council Varela's motion that these

1:41:04licenses be granted. All those in favor?

1:41:07All those opposed. The matter carries.

1:41:09Further petitions.

1:41:11We have um four taxi operators and two

1:41:15vehicle for hire operators only.

1:41:18Councelor Varela.

1:41:20>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move

1:41:21these be granted.

1:41:22>> Councelor Varela moves that these be

1:41:23granted. Other under discussion.

1:41:25Councelor Varela.

1:41:26>> No discussion.

1:41:28>> On council's motion that these be

1:41:30granted. All those in favor? All those

1:41:32opposed? The matter carries. Further

1:41:35petitions.

1:41:36>> We have two claims.

1:41:38>> Council Varela.

1:41:38>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move

1:41:40these be referred to the committee on

1:41:41ordinances, license, and legal affairs.

1:41:43>> Council Varela moves that these be

1:41:44referred to the committee on ordinances,

1:41:46license, and legal affairs. Under

1:41:48discussion, council.

1:41:49>> No discussion

1:41:49>> on council's motion to refer these

1:41:52claims to the committee on ordinanceless

1:41:54license and legal affairs. All those in

1:41:56favor? All those opposed? The matter

1:41:59carries. Unfinished business. We have an

1:42:02ordinance relative to noise control.

1:42:05Councelor Smith.

1:42:06>> Thank you, President Merkel. I move for

1:42:08adoption for second passage.

1:42:11>> Councelor Smith moves for adoption for

1:42:13second passage. Under discussion,

1:42:14Councelor Smith. No further discussion.

1:42:17>> Any further discussion? Council Halapo.

1:42:21>> Thank you, President Merkel. I'm mostly

1:42:23saying this for the record. Um earlier

1:42:26this year, we uh corrected the uh

1:42:29parking for adjusting earlier September

1:42:32happening. There's a part of this

1:42:34ordinance that we neglected to mention

1:42:35relating to amplification. Uh I was

1:42:38speaking to Chief Miller last night and

1:42:39that's something that we might want to

1:42:41address in the future. It's about to

1:42:43show up now. This is second passage. But

1:42:44I'm not going to put it forward, but I

1:42:45wanted to put that in here for the

1:42:46record. Thank you.

1:42:48>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:42:51Seeing none, on Councelor Smith's motion

1:42:53for adoption for a second passage, an

1:42:55ordinance relative to noise control. All

1:42:57those in favor? All those opposed? The

1:43:00matter carries.

1:43:02Further unfinished business. We have an

1:43:04ordinance relative to traffic

1:43:07on Lafayette Place, Salem Street.

1:43:11>> Councelor King. Thank you, President

1:43:13Merkel. I move for adoption for second

1:43:15passage.

1:43:15>> Councelor King moves for adoption for

1:43:17second passage. Under discussion,

1:43:19Councelor King.

1:43:20>> Um, thank you. Uh, we are just uh

1:43:23cleaning up all of the uh changes that

1:43:25were made to the back of uh the Sarah

1:43:28Parker Ramon, formerly Sult School on

1:43:31Salem Street for um all the kids that

1:43:33are there. Thank you. Any further

1:43:35discussion? Seeing none on council

1:43:38king's motion for adoption for second

1:43:40passage an ordinance relative uh to

1:43:42traffic and parking on Lafayette Place

1:43:44and Salem Street. All those in favor?

1:43:47All those opposed? Matter carries.

1:43:50Further unfinished business. We have an

1:43:52ordinance relative to traffic chapter 42

1:43:55section 13B Fire Lanes Beach Avenue and

1:43:58Sutton Avenue. Councelor Traski.

1:44:01>> Thank you. President Merkel. I move for

1:44:03adoption uh for second passage.

1:44:04Councelor Trosky moves for adoption for

1:44:06second passage. Under discussion,

1:44:08councelor Troski. No discussion. Any

1:44:11further discussion? Seeing none on

1:44:13councils motion for adoption for second

1:44:16passage, an ordinance relative to fire

1:44:18lanes on Beach and Sutton avenues. All

1:44:21those in favor. All those opposed. The

1:44:24matter carries. Further unfinished

1:44:26business. We have an ordinance to amend

1:44:28an ordinance relative to offenses and

1:44:31miscellaneous provisions.

1:44:34um for gas powered leaf blowers.

1:44:38Councelor Hapworth.

1:44:40>> Thank you. President Merkel move for

1:44:41adoption for second passage.

1:44:43>> Councelor Hapworth moves for adoption

1:44:45for second passage. Under discussion,

1:44:47councelor Hapworth.

1:44:48>> Uh no discussion.

1:44:49>> Any further discussion? Council Varela.

1:44:53>> Thank you, President Merkel. I'd like to

1:44:54make a motion.

1:44:58I can make a motion that we add back in.

1:45:01City departments, city of Salem shall

1:45:03comply with the gas power leaf blower

1:45:05provision no later than 2030.

1:45:11>> Repeat that one more time.

1:45:12>> Sure. So, this comes from the original

1:45:15language. City departments hyphen the

1:45:18city of Salem shall comply with the gas

1:45:21powered leaf blower prohibition no later

1:45:24than 2030.

1:45:37>> Do we have I just

1:45:38>> I don't I'm not seconding it. No,

1:45:40>> I second I'll second it.

1:45:41>> Okay.

1:45:43>> Okay.

1:45:48Okay. Seconded by councelor King to add

1:45:51back in a city department shall comply

1:45:54with the leaf blower uh prohibition

1:45:57under discussion.

1:45:59>> I just uh

1:46:01>> Thank you. Thank you, President Merkel.

1:46:02I just would want clarity. There's a

1:46:03there's many It sounds like you're

1:46:05trying to add the city back in. Okay. If

1:46:07you're trying to add the city back in,

1:46:08there's many places that this exists in

1:46:09the ordinance. So, there's many

1:46:10amendments and we're back in the where

1:46:13we were two weeks ago. Uh,

1:46:17so there'll be many many amendments to

1:46:18make. I guess maybe we take that first

1:46:20one first and see how people feel on it

1:46:22and and then maybe not make the rest of

1:46:23them if there's not a will in the body

1:46:25to do it. Um, but it's not just in one

1:46:28place, it's in several places.

1:46:31>> Noted. Thank you.

1:46:34Any further discussion? Councelor

1:46:35Varela.

1:46:37>> Thank you, President Merkel. So, the

1:46:38reason I want to bring this back in is I

1:46:40understand the residents want this. I I

1:46:43do understand the reason we want to ban

1:46:45leaf blowers. I just can't get by the

1:46:49the fact that the city is exempt from

1:46:51this. We've heard from our DPS director

1:46:54that he doesn't believe the technology

1:46:56is there and that that's going to be the

1:47:01same for any landscaper.

1:47:03I I think we need to be cautious about

1:47:05this. if the city says they can do it.

1:47:08And I and I trust Ray in this. Ry is a

1:47:11landscaper. That's what he's done for

1:47:14many many years. He knows the industry.

1:47:16And I just don't think it's it's fair

1:47:19for the city to be exempt and the and

1:47:23businesses and individuals to be privy

1:47:26to this ordinance. So that's the reason

1:47:27I want to bring this in. I think it

1:47:29should be fair all around. If the city

1:47:31doesn't feel they can do it for

1:47:32feasibility reasons, it's going to be

1:47:34the same for residents and businesses

1:47:36here in the Commonwealth. Thank you.

1:47:39>> Thank you, Councelor Smith.

1:47:41>> Thank you, President Merkel. Uh the city

1:47:43would incur a cost of over $400,000 to

1:47:46switch their gear. They can't just go

1:47:48out and buy a leaf blower at Walmart.

1:47:50They have to go to uh set purveyors of

1:47:55leaf blowers and they have to purchase

1:47:57them under Massachusetts state law.

1:47:59There's only certain ones they can get.

1:48:01If you I want you to think about the

1:48:04largest pieces of property that are in

1:48:06this city.

1:48:08They are city property. There's

1:48:10cemeteries, parks. These are huge areas

1:48:14that we would have to add numerous

1:48:16personnel to. We're not talking about

1:48:18private contractors, people who choose

1:48:21to have yards. Instead, we're talking

1:48:24about residents that choose to have

1:48:26parks,

1:48:28cemeteries, people that choose to bury

1:48:29their dead in cemeteries now incurring a

1:48:32cost of $7.50 per person in this city

1:48:36just to keep those spaces clean. And uh

1:48:42and not to mention the fire, right? The

1:48:45fire department has to borrow leaf they

1:48:48have to get leaf blowers from somewhere.

1:48:49They actually get them from DPS. uh they

1:48:51had said in the committee meeting that

1:48:53they do not when I talked to the chief

1:48:54they do and so we want those to be on

1:48:57hand. Switching the city now

1:49:01would be very costly have to add

1:49:04personnel and be dangerous. And so I

1:49:07think that leaving them off until the

1:49:09technology

1:49:11as provided by state law what they can

1:49:13actually buy is where it needs to be. It

1:49:17makes sense to leave them out. there's

1:49:19four years to put them back in. Chances

1:49:22are we go to Ray in two years and maybe

1:49:25he's ready and they can get in even

1:49:26earlier. I just think right now leaving

1:49:29them out is the wisest choice because of

1:49:32those main issues. Thanks.

1:49:34>> Thank you. Any further discussion? Uh,

1:49:38councelor Sedoryak.

1:49:41>> Thank you, President Merkel. I just want

1:49:43to echo the W 2 counselor's comments. I

1:49:45think the scale and the responsibilities

1:49:48of the the city government makes it so

1:49:51distinct that it isn't really a

1:49:53discussion about fairness. Uh it's it's

1:49:55kind of apples to oranges. Like there's

1:49:57two different things happening here of

1:49:59the responsibility

1:50:01and public health and safety that is

1:50:03very distinct from a resident that needs

1:50:06to clear off their um their yard. And I

1:50:10I think giving that scale uh it's

1:50:13important that we do set this aside and

1:50:15maybe give the city some time uh to wait

1:50:19out to see if the technology can meet

1:50:22that scale can become feasible um and

1:50:25they can actually achieve what they can

1:50:28achieve now with that technology. Thank

1:50:30you, President.

1:50:31>> Thank you, Council Halapa.

1:50:33>> Thank you, President Merkel. Um, I've

1:50:36always sort of been in favor of this of

1:50:37this notion of having the city um

1:50:39practice what we preach and and lead on

1:50:42this uh lead by example. Um, I want to

1:50:44just clarify that the new that the old

1:50:47the new old language um does not dictate

1:50:50that DPS replace its entire fleet of gas

1:50:53leaf blowers by 2030. It simply states

1:50:56that they would not be able to use them

1:50:58except under certain conditions. Um, so

1:51:00they would potentially still be

1:51:02available for the fire department to

1:51:03use. it would not necessarily be that

1:51:05giant cost. Um, and again, this is

1:51:08several years from now when this would

1:51:09go into effect. I would be more

1:51:11comfortable 2 years from now effectively

1:51:14granting them an extension rather than

1:51:16saying, "Hey, guess what? Now you only

1:51:18have 2 years because now we're deciding

1:51:20we're going to add you back in later."

1:51:22Um, the downside to that, if we don't

1:51:24want to give them two years and we want

1:51:25to be more reasonable, then we're

1:51:26pushing it out even further. Um, I think

1:51:28this is a reasonable way to get it

1:51:30forward and I think there is a off-ramp

1:51:33if we choose to if we decide that it is

1:51:36necessary later on. Thank you.

1:51:38>> Thank you. Any further discussion?

1:51:40Councelor Hapworth.

1:51:43>> Thank you, President Merkel. Uh, I mean,

1:51:45I would be a no vote on on this both

1:51:47ways. So, I think that the uh if if if

1:51:50you can't untangle that knot, which I I

1:51:52don't feel that I can, that the city

1:51:54needs these. And uh for the time being

1:51:57the technology is not there and

1:51:59procurement is not able to get us

1:52:01something that that makes sense

1:52:02financially. Um this is not an

1:52:05enforcement priority and I I I I

1:52:08shouldn't probably say that but this is

1:52:09not I don't believe this is an

1:52:10enforcement priority for Salem PD. So,

1:52:12this if this is passed applying to

1:52:14commercial businesses and residents

1:52:16only, it feels hypocritical to me. Um, I

1:52:19guess just on a as a as a as a

1:52:21counselor, [snorts] but as a as a

1:52:23practical matter affecting uh the city

1:52:25of Salem, some people will buy electric

1:52:28now that weren't wouldn't otherwise, and

1:52:30that's great. Uh, but if we add the city

1:52:33of Salem back into this, that has an

1:52:35actual effect on Salem's taxpayers, the

1:52:38services Salem receives, and the the the

1:52:40[snorts] work that Salem's uh public

1:52:43safety and uh DPW are able to do. So, I

1:52:45will not vote yes on this amendment uh

1:52:48to to add the city back in, but I also

1:52:50not vote yes to to pass this as is. I

1:52:53would advise anyone who has issues with

1:52:54that sort of that for rules for me and

1:52:57not for thee or rules for thee and not

1:52:59for me just to vote no on the on the

1:53:01full um order but uh but trying to go

1:53:04back through and amend this thing again

1:53:06let's not go down that please.

1:53:09>> Thank you councelor King.

1:53:12>> Thank you. I have a point of

1:53:13clarification and this this could just

1:53:15be we were making so many amendments on

1:53:17the fly and I can't even find um like

1:53:20minutes from the last meeting. Um it

1:53:23looks like we removed

1:53:25any effective date from this ordinance.

1:53:28I'm not seeing anything printed here

1:53:30unless it's not unless it's somewhere

1:53:33else and I don't see anything in the

1:53:34backup but there's no effective date

1:53:36which means if we pass this it would be

1:53:37effective now. Wait,

1:53:39>> 20.

1:53:40>> I don't think the agenda reflected the

1:53:43whole order.

1:53:45>> It's not

1:53:46>> okay. I I understand the agenda is

1:53:48missing the full text. There's also

1:53:50nothing in the backup given all the

1:53:52amendments we took last meeting.

1:53:57I don't know if I feel particularly

1:53:59comfortable voting on it unless I know

1:54:00we're actually voting on to be honest

1:54:02that I'm very sorry to say that but I I

1:54:05not having a clear effective date that I

1:54:07actually know is true is an important

1:54:09piece of information.

1:54:12Any further discussion?

1:54:14Councelor Davis. Thank you, President

1:54:16Merkel. So, we removed the effective

1:54:18date that's at the end of the ordinance

1:54:19just because it was redundant. The

1:54:21effective dates is are laid out in a

1:54:24earlier section. I don't have it in

1:54:25front of me, but uh in an earlier

1:54:27paragraph,

1:54:30section D. [snorts]

1:54:34Council Varela,

1:54:35>> that was a fun exercise. I withdraw my

1:54:38motion. [laughter]

1:54:43>> Motion withdrawn.

1:54:46Councelor King. Thank you. Um, I if

1:54:49anyone has a version of this language

1:54:51that is posted publicly, I would love to

1:54:53see it because I'm also looking back at

1:54:54the original committee meeting we had on

1:54:56it and there's nothing there's no

1:54:57language in that committee meeting.

1:54:59There's no language in the minutes. I

1:55:00know there was language that was brought

1:55:01in by the atlarge counselor, but I I

1:55:05can't find a version of this language

1:55:07that is the final version that we are

1:55:08voting on on anywhere online. And if

1:55:10anyone can point me to it, that would be

1:55:11great. But I that's all. I just don't

1:55:14think it's great to vote on something

1:55:15that we don't know what we're voting on.

1:55:17>> Thank you. Any further disc I just add

1:55:20that we this is exactly what we voted on

1:55:21two weeks ago. So if you're worried

1:55:23about voting on something you haven't

1:55:25seen, you voted on that two weeks ago.

1:55:26This is this was voted on as amended.

1:55:28This is second passage we're voting on

1:55:29right now.

1:55:32>> Thank you, Councelor King. Thank you.

1:55:35Um,

1:55:37when we voted on this two weeks ago,

1:55:38there was a handout on our desks that

1:55:40then people were marking up as we made

1:55:42amendments.

1:55:44I don't know about you, I recycle the

1:55:46amendments on my desk. And I don't think

1:55:48most the people for people who are at

1:55:50home and trying to figure out what we

1:55:51are voting on

1:55:57the paper.

1:55:59>> Ah, okay. The ad that was placed in the

1:56:00paper is the version that is we're

1:56:02voting on. Okay, great. Um,

1:56:06okay. I guess I should just have read

1:56:07the paper. I'll do that next time. Thank

1:56:09you.

1:56:12Thank you.

1:56:14Any further discussion? And uh for

1:56:17clarity, we are back um to the um

1:56:20original emotion without the amendment.

1:56:25Any further discussion?

1:56:27>> Councelor Smith.

1:56:28>> Thank you, President Merkel. I'd like to

1:56:29propose an amendment that we add in

1:56:31section F just to the best of their

1:56:33ability within just for the city of

1:56:35Salem just to clarify this language that

1:56:38they conducting outreach. So it makes it

1:56:40a little bit more palatable uh for a

1:56:43city department that is already overt

1:56:45taxed and overburdened to uh have this

1:56:47on their plates coming down the pike. So

1:56:51after at the end of that I would just

1:56:52say to the best of their ability

1:57:02Second.

1:57:06>> Just give me one second. I'm writing the

1:57:08notes.

1:57:16Okay. We have a a motion for a proposed

1:57:21amendment

1:57:22uh under this section um that requires

1:57:24the city to for to outreach um to

1:57:28landscaping companies that they be

1:57:30notified of our change of rules. And the

1:57:34motion is to add uh to the best of their

1:57:38ability.

1:57:40And this was seconded by councelor

1:57:42Davis. Under discussion,

1:57:45>> self-explanatory. No further discussion.

1:57:47>> Any further discussion?

1:57:50Seeing none on the proposed amendment uh

1:57:54by councelor Smith, seconded by

1:57:55councelor Davis uh under the section

1:57:58that um the city is shall notify

1:58:01landscaping uh companies, entities um to

1:58:05notify them of our of our ordinance uh

1:58:09that it is to the added to the best of

1:58:12their ability. Um,

1:58:15all those in favor,

1:58:18all those opposed.

1:58:21The matter carries.

1:58:26Okay. So, we are back uh to the original

1:58:30uh motion um which would be um councelor

1:58:35Her's motion for adoption for second

1:58:38passage. It would now be as amended.

1:58:42Any further discussion?

1:58:47Seeing none,

1:58:49on Councelor Hapworth's motion for

1:58:51adoption for second passage as amended,

1:58:55an ordinance relative to gas leaf blower

1:58:58restrictions.

1:59:00All those in favor?

1:59:04All those opposed.

1:59:08Just want clarify clarity. Could those

1:59:10that were in favor raise their hands

1:59:12again so I do a clear count.

1:59:21All those opposed.

1:59:29We have six voting in favor for against.

1:59:32Uh the matter carries.

1:59:39Councelor Hapworth.

1:59:49>> I move for and if there's nothing else,

1:59:52uh I [snorts] move for adjournment.

1:59:54>> Council Hapworth moves for adjournment.

1:59:56All those in favor? All those opposed?

2:00:00We are adjourned. Thank you everyone.