2026-10-06 - Disability Commission

00:00Hey, this is Michelle Wman Williams

00:03calling to order the Lind Disability

00:05Commission meeting scheduled for

00:07Tuesday, October 6th. Um,

00:11Secretary would roll.

00:13>> Yes, thank you. Michelle Waterman

00:16Williams

00:16>> present.

00:17>> Tracy Lindsay,

00:18>> present.

00:20Present. Danny Aosta,

00:22>> present.

00:24>> I see. Present. Louise.

00:27Louise.

00:28No. Right. No. No. Absent. Okay.

00:31Christopher Gator.

00:33>> Megan Cole

00:36and Jeff Lana Hernandez.

00:41>> We do. How cool. Excellent. Thank you.

00:44And um

00:47mid last week we sent out the uh agenda

00:51and then also the September uh minutes.

00:53Hopefully everyone had a chance to

00:55review those. What is the wish of the

00:56commission?

00:58Motion to accept the minutes as

00:59presented.

01:02>> And roll call. Um because we have

01:05someone also via camera. Roll call. Uh

01:08roll call, please.

01:10>> Okay. Um Michelle Waterman Williams.

01:12>> Yes.

01:13>> Tracy Lindsay.

01:14>> Yes.

01:15>> Gapano. Yes. Danny Aosta.

01:18>> Yes.

01:20>> Chris Gator.

01:20>> Yes.

01:21>> And Jeff Leaf Hernandez.

01:23>> Yes.

01:24>> Majority accepted.

01:26>> Excellent. Thank you. Third item on the

01:29agenda, it's that time of the year when

01:31we have LIN disability commission's

01:34officers election where we will

01:38by member vote elect a chairperson, a

01:42vice chair, and a secretary.

01:46So, we're looking for

01:49um motions or nominations by name.

01:53I'd like to start off with nominating

01:55Michelle Waterman Williams as our

01:57chairperson. I second that.

02:01Motion made second.

02:03>> Wish the commission

02:06sit out and I'll help you out.

02:12>> Each person has to go around and vote

02:14for the chairperson. They have to state

02:16their choice.

02:18>> Okay. So Tracy Lindsay I vote for

02:21Michelle Williams Carson

02:24Michelle Danny

02:26>> Michelle as well

02:29>> Chris Gadaman

02:31Williams

02:32>> and Jeff Leard Hernandez Waterman

02:34Williams

02:35>> congratulations Michelle Waterman

02:37Williams

02:39fabulous chairperson thank you for the

02:42the the trust and support in this role

02:50And um

02:57I would like to put forward a motion to

03:01have Tracy Lindsay continue as our vice

03:04chair.

03:06>> Second that motion.

03:12You can if you take it to a vote. You

03:14can actually vote for yourself. Michelle

03:16Waterman Williams. Uh uh Tracy Lindsay.

03:20Tracy Tracy

03:23is Tracy.

03:24>> Danny.

03:25>> Tracy.

03:27>> Chris.

03:28>> Tracy.

03:29>> And Jeff.

03:30>> Tracy.

03:30>> Terrific. Tracy. Congratulations

03:34>> once again.

03:41So, do we put do we put you up now? All

03:44right. So, I nominate Patricia Kapano as

03:47clerk.

03:50>> We'll second that motion.

03:54Michelle Maran Williams Patty Kapano

03:58Tracy Lindsay Patty Patty

04:03>> Patty Capano

04:08>> and Jeff

04:11we are we are a roll ladies and

04:14gentlemen. Okay,

04:17>> a great job and we're gonna [laughter]

04:20audience everyone and thank you all for

04:23continuing to serve in these roles. It

04:25is certainly not underappreciated. You

04:28don't know how many times I am fully

04:31thankful and over there saying, geez, we

04:33got a great team um this year. So um all

04:36right,

04:38next um item on the agenda, we have Nick

04:40Alonzo from um Department of Public

04:43Health here. he's going to give us an

04:45update on Lynn's ADA self-evaluation and

04:48transition planning. I'm going to turn

04:51it over to you if you could present to

04:52the commission.

04:53>> Sure, of course. Um, thank you for

04:55having me. Um, so the ADA

04:59self-evaluation and transition plan has

05:01been going very smoothly. We're working

05:02with consulting KMA

05:05um who has been leading the project with

05:08myself and Lauren Drago at the planning

05:10office. Um we met with them yesterday to

05:13do a kind of update on where they're at.

05:15The they're in progress on building

05:18audits which have been going well. They

05:19came over and did the fire department

05:21headquarters and the police department

05:23headquarters last week. Next week I

05:26believe they're coming to do the Ganon

05:29Golf Course and then they're going to go

05:30and look at the rest of the um fire

05:32department buildings. They've already

05:34done um city hall, the senior center,

05:37the library, and um a handful of other

05:39city um facilities. Um and so they're

05:44wrapping up all the auditing by the the

05:47goal is the end of October so that they

05:49can start working on the actual report

05:52and transition plan um heading into

05:55January. Um, we've also have wrapped up

05:58the staff survey for city hall staff and

06:02department heads. Um, and now they are

06:05going to be launching the public survey

06:08in a couple of weeks. Um, or actually in

06:12one week, I apologize. Next week we will

06:14we will be launching the public survey

06:16which will be open until the end of

06:18November. Um, and the point of this

06:20survey is to get members of the public

06:23to give their input on what their

06:26priorities are for accessibility within

06:28the city. Um, to kind of help guide um,

06:31KMA as they put together this report and

06:33this transition plan. Um, and so it's

06:36going to be available in six languages

06:38in English, Spanish, Portuguese, Kami,

06:41Russian, and Haitian Creole. And it's a

06:44short survey. It's only six questions.

06:46Um, the questions are pretty simple. Um

06:48I'll read them out quickly. The first

06:50one is um asking about city facilities

06:53that one has had difficulty using. Um

06:57the second question is difficulty

06:58finding clear upto-date access

07:01accessibility info for city programs and

07:04events. The third question is do you

07:06know how to request city materials and

07:08alternate formats? The fourth question

07:10is do you know how to request an

07:12accommodation for city events or

07:14programs? Um the fifth question is what

07:18additional assistance would help you

07:19better access city programs and events?

07:22And then the final question is just any

07:24other comments. So again, this will just

07:26be something that helps give a clearer

07:29sense of what the community's priorities

07:31are. Um, and so Lauren and I have been

07:34um, working to gear up to launch this

07:36survey, to um, put it in newsletters, to

07:40have the mayor's office eventually post

07:41about it, to um, do in-person physical

07:45surveys at places like the Lin Senior

07:47Center or at different events in the

07:50next couple of months. Um, and so

07:53Michelle, I know you had mentioned that

07:55there's the uh, Lin Disability

07:56Commission website that this could

07:58potentially be posted on. And if anyone

08:00else has any other ideas for how to get

08:02big word out on this survey over the

08:04next couple of months um just to get as

08:06many people to fill that out as possible

08:08to give us some more comprehensive

08:10um result base. Um please if you have

08:13the ideas now if you want to let me know

08:14or reach out to me um via email as well.

08:18Um so that's that's where we're working

08:20on now. And then bigger picture updates.

08:24Uh we received funding to complete the

08:26second phase of the project which is

08:28really exciting and wouldn't be possible

08:29without the Lindability Commission's

08:31first phase funding. So thank you very

08:33much for that. And we're excited that

08:35we'll be able to include um all

08:38city-owned parking lots and parks in the

08:40project now because of this um

08:43additional funding. And so we haven't

08:45worked out how that will impact the

08:47schedule. Um obviously it will extend

08:49the project's deadline. Um, but it's all

08:53good news and it's all more

08:55comprehensive and we're very excited

08:57about it.

08:59So, I think that's that's all the big

09:02news regarding the ADA self-evaluation

09:04and transition plan.

09:08Thank you for that information. Um, I

09:11know that I'm going to I'm going to um

09:13piggy back on to your statement here.

09:16Earlier, was it August 17th or 25th? One

09:20of those days, Patty and I also met with

09:22the mayor's office to talk about

09:24accessibility specifically here at city

09:27hall. Just going on the record with with

09:29this explanation. And um the members of

09:32city hall um we were able to sit down

09:35and talk with one another about the

09:37inaccessibility of the foyer out there.

09:40And because we were able to hire KMA for

09:43their consultant services, um we are

09:46also trying to while we have them think

09:48about or have them give us some

09:49recommendations for op accessible

09:52options for either the city that's

09:54hosting an event or if um an

09:56organization or another um or one of the

10:00departments are coming in to use that

10:02space, what accessible options can we

10:05offer them? And so I'm looking forward

10:06to working with or hearing more about

10:08how we could definitely do that. Um the

10:12other part of it is if you don't mind me

10:14saying we mentioned possibly putting a

10:16link for the public on our website, but

10:20I'm curious to know you did send a

10:22couple examples of like what town did

10:24with theirs and ways for them to kind of

10:26generate interest. I know that the

10:28mayor's office has been doing a and

10:32I'll say it's a this is my personal

10:34opinion a pretty good job with his

10:36social media and making videos and

10:38getting an engagement from the community

10:39and using their social media presence to

10:42kind of generate interest in things. I'm

10:44wondering it's short timeline. I think

10:47it's going out next week but is there

10:48anything that the commission can do if

10:50they're thinking about social media

10:52presence or thinking about doing a

10:54video? is the mayor interested in um I

10:58think it I'm not I don't want it to fall

11:00heavily all on the commission to be the

11:03one to champion it because I think it's

11:04something that should come from the city

11:06that's saying this is important to the

11:08city. It's not just being driven by the

11:11commission to do this work and that the

11:13city is vested and they're interested

11:15and we're ptoring together. So, um, you

11:17know, if there's any way, whether it's

11:19in brochures that are used or social

11:22media campaigns for the city to take the

11:26lead, but definitely the commission to

11:27support. And I'd be curious to hear if

11:30anyone else has opinions on that, too.

11:34>> Something I should mention quick is that

11:36although it's launching next week,

11:37announcements and any engagement with it

11:40can happen at any point over the next

11:42two months. So, it's not something that

11:43we would need to wrap up by next week.

11:46And it's an ongoing process of spreading

11:48the word essentially.

11:49>> That's good to know.

11:50>> Where has this survey gone so far except

11:54only city hall?

11:55>> Um so the survey for city hall staff was

11:58a separate survey that was specifically

11:59um geared towards department heads as

12:01well as our 88 coordinator um Jim Mala.

12:04And so the public survey is intended for

12:07everyone else pretty much. So um this

12:11has not gone out yet. It's included in

12:12the planning department's newsletter and

12:15it's going to also be in the public

12:16health newsletter that are going out um

12:18this week. Um and beyond that,

12:21>> would it go excuse would it go to

12:23schools and libraries and public

12:25buildings of that sort? Um, that's the

12:28idea is that we could print out

12:30something like a QR code to leave there

12:31and also physical copies that we can

12:33hand out to places like the library so

12:35they can have them and then, you know,

12:37hold on to them and me and Lauren go

12:38collect them as the as the months came

12:41to an end.

12:43>> So, what is your target audience right

12:45now? Just social media.

12:46>> Um, right now we're going to be doing a

12:48few physical um inerson surveys at the

12:51senior center. We'll be dropping some

12:53off at the library. Um, schools. I I I

12:56haven't gotten in touch with anyone yet

12:58about schools, but I think that's that's

12:59a great point to get in touch and see if

13:01we can leave copies at schools for kids

13:03to fill out or at least QR code and

13:04posters. Um, and then social media will

13:08definitely be a part of it. I'm meeting

13:09with uh the mayor's office to figure out

13:12our strategy for how to go about um

13:14announcing it more publicly. Yeah.

13:17>> And what about businesses around town?

13:20>> Businesses? Not sure yet. Yeah, that's

13:21not something that we we've gotten in

13:23touch with. I know Lauren has has

13:25communication with some of them and so

13:26that's something that we'll be figuring

13:28out the next couple weeks.

13:30>> Okay.

13:31>> Would also be great. I think it I know

13:33the city councilors all individually

13:36have newsletters and community meetings.

13:38We're going to be asking them to include

13:40it in there. And then I think with the

13:42posting it at city property, city hall,

13:44the library and stuff, both having it

13:47public at like the front entrance or the

13:49circulation desk at the library, but

13:51also if we can be strategic and be

13:54placing them at the accessible entrances

13:56because I think that will be a cue for a

13:57lot of folks who are seeking that

13:59accessibility when they come in to see

14:01that cure.

14:02>> And then they might have something to

14:03say about it. Yeah,

14:07>> it's great. And you said there would be

14:09physical as well for those who might

14:13online.

14:13>> Yeah, if they leave QR codes, but also

14:16definitely give people stashes of

14:17physical surveys for them to hand out

14:19and build out

14:22which TMA should be able to provide us

14:24in the coming weeks that we can start

14:26distributing.

14:27>> Is there like an advertised poster

14:28that's been made out so when you put it

14:30at the door it's not just words?

14:31>> Um, not made yet, but that's something

14:32that I'm working on this week to get

14:34that right. Yeah.

14:35>> Yeah, it's a good idea. I appreciate

14:36that as well.

14:38>> Would it be possible, especially during

14:40early voting at city hall, to have

14:42something up like right near where

14:43people are doing early voting?

14:45>> Yeah, that's a great idea. Voting, take

14:48advantage of that. Yeah. Any any things

14:49like that that come to mind of events

14:51that you know that are happening that we

14:52might not have on our radar. Take

14:54advantage. That's great.

15:02>> I see any early voting. a lot of people

15:04that come to early look at the tables

15:06and the flyers, you know, having that

15:07out for the flyers.

15:08>> Yeah, I feel about that. So,

15:11>> and early morning at NC all

15:13>> Yes. October 17th through October 30th.

15:17>> So, I know we also have our flyers that

15:20were created

15:21>> at the beginning of the summer to have

15:22one of those in front desk just so that

15:25we're here for people. I think that'd be

15:27great.

15:27>> Okay. I have um I still have a whole

15:30pile of them so I can And are there any

15:33rules around like dropping stuff, flyers

15:37and stuff there? I mean, we're the

15:39commission, but

15:40>> um at the early voting

15:41>> right out Yeah, right outside the

15:43auditorium. There's like a table of

15:45resources and stuff like that. We left a

15:47couple the last time that we were here,

15:48like a small stack, but I'll double

15:50check before.

15:50>> Yeah, I think there's like a formal

15:52approach to it. I'm not sure yet who

15:54precisely asked, but I imagine once we

15:56ask them it's pretty straightforward.

15:57process.

15:59>> So, I can look into that and let you

16:01know about that.

16:04>> So, so if I can just chime in, I'm sorry

16:06about that for a minute. Um, so

16:07Community Development manages that table

16:09and they also have volunteers that work

16:12most days of the week in addition to the

16:14folks that provide translation services.

16:17I I think this could be a great

16:18opportunity to engage them, give them

16:21something a little bit more to do that

16:23when you know um citizens come into city

16:26hall looking to do business, you know,

16:28we can more proactively encourage them

16:30to um to fill out the survey. And I

16:34think that's something that Jamie Marsh,

16:35the community development director,

16:36would be very open to.

16:39>> Amy Marsh.

16:41>> Great.

16:44>> Thank you, Drew. Yeah, I'll write that

16:46down. You can shoot me a marsh email. I

16:48can CC me if you'd like and I can touch.

16:53>> Yeah, sure. Absolutely.

17:00>> Yeah, the commission at this time

17:02doesn't really have an official

17:04newsletter or social media presence. So,

17:08offering you up other suggestions on our

17:10we're not mature like that yet, but

17:11we're we're we're on we're we're headed

17:14in that direction. We're we're we're

17:15trying. So hopefully uh um hopefully you

17:19got a couple of ideas that you can use

17:21and certainly you know circle back to us

17:23if you need any other input or have any

17:26questions too.

17:27>> And I also should mention that um next

17:29month

17:31LCTV definitely.

17:32>> Oh yeah.

17:36But next month, um, Emanuel Andrade, the

17:39project manager from KMA, our consultant

17:41for the project, should be joining us

17:43for the next the disability commission

17:45meeting and will give a bit more of a

17:47detailed analysis on what they've been

17:49up to. And um, that way you can also

17:52bring a little bit on working on how

17:54they're thinking about the project and

17:56should be fun. And it should be in

17:57person as well, but we'll get more

17:59details on that in a couple weeks.

18:02>> Great. Looking forward to that.

18:05And I'm trying to think when I watch um

18:07like government TV, is there a um a

18:12board that a running board that

18:14advertises below

18:16>> like the ticker like a

18:18>> I know what you mean

18:21thing, but there's also, you know, a

18:23headline.

18:25>> Yeah.

18:26>> Is it on any of those? Because that

18:28would be another place just,

18:30you know, to keep it just to keep it

18:33going like that.

18:34>> I'm not sure. LCTV might have something.

18:35>> I don't know if they have it.

18:37>> Yeah.

18:38>> Sometimes you just It's on but you don't

18:40really pay attention to what's

18:42>> Yeah, that's the whole point of it, I

18:44guess.

18:45>> Okay. [clears throat]

18:46>> Yeah, I'll ask about that when I imagine

18:47how CT

18:50was.

18:56>> Would it be possible on the Lin City

19:00website when there's not something big

19:02going on? because I know if there's

19:04something like the the water stuff

19:07it pops up right away telling you is

19:10there a way

19:11>> would it be possible that when there's

19:13not another notification that clearly

19:15should be done first that to pop up of

19:18>> yeah that's a great question yeah if

19:20there's ever a slow week hopefully steal

19:24that spot and even if not maybe there's

19:26like a subspot that they have moves for

19:28so yeah

19:29>> go forth

19:32>> after you get the vote you know,

19:34>> on publishing the QR code and maybe

19:36doing like a little article in the L

19:38item and publishing the QR code there.

19:44>> I did invite them tonight to to join our

19:47meeting just as another method of

19:49getting the word out there. And for

19:51those that may be watching this recorded

19:53um meeting, you know, we're trying to

19:55get the word out for this survey, this

19:59self ADA self evaluation and transition

20:02planning survey for the public to be

20:05able to provide their input on, you

20:07know, how do you think Lynn is doing in

20:09terms of accessibility? Um, and it can

20:11be f positive stuff can come through

20:13that survey as well, but I have a pretty

20:16good feeling that we'll get some of the

20:18the things that are challenges and and

20:19that's what we want. So, that's the

20:21thing we're trying to do. So, you'll

20:22find that on our website and other um

20:24mayor's office social media um

20:26campaigning for this. So, please

20:28participate in the survey.

20:33>> Okay. [clears throat]

20:34>> Thank you.

20:35>> Thank you for your time, Nick. And we'll

20:37see Emanuel next month. Um, speaking of

20:41next month, next on the agenda is the

20:44November meeting has been moved from

20:46November 3rd to November 10th because of

20:49election day. And so, um, I don't know

20:53that we need a vote on that. I think we

20:55can make an executive decision to just

20:57do that. Correct.

20:58>> We need a motion to move.

20:59>> Oh, so what was the miss wish of the

21:01commission?

21:02>> Motion to move the first Monday of the

21:04month meeting to the second Tuesday.

21:09Sorry. First Tuesday of the month

21:11meeting to the second Tuesday for

21:13November, which would be November 10th.

21:16>> Second

21:23call, please. Sure.

21:26[laughter]

21:28>> Thank you.

21:29>> Yes. Roll call vote. Yes. Michelle.

21:32Michelle.

21:33>> Yes.

21:34>> Tracy.

21:34>> Yes. Yes. Danny.

21:38>> Yes.

21:40Chris.

21:40>> Yes.

21:42>> And

21:42>> yes.

21:51>> Meeting up. So

21:56>> um yeah, no more votes going to be

21:58taken. Well, no. I think the one old

22:01business may be tabled

22:04one.

22:06Okay. Danny's still here. Great.

22:09>> We have a couple of members that um have

22:11to leave, but we still have a quorum.

22:13So, we will continue with the meeting.

22:16>> Um the next portion of the meeting is

22:20the open forum.

22:22>> Open forum. That's me.

22:26>> Open forum. We have Bob. Uh please state

22:29your name and address, please.

22:31>> Robert Glento, 13 Willer Street,

22:33Department 104.

22:36Last month's meeting, Michelle was

22:38inspired

22:40unescribably

22:42she talked about possibly having an

22:44outreach subcommittee

22:47and a couple of things brought to come

22:50to mind. I want to talk about it.

22:53First of just I try to give you an exact

22:56example where it would have been

22:58helpful. It was kind of a muddled

22:59example. Fortunately, the next week was

23:01live out and it's a different example

23:05and they made a big attempt to be

23:08handicap friendly at that place. My wife

23:11got into trouble with her wheelchair

23:12they put roll out boardwalk on the grass

23:16>> and the wheelchair was trying to go over

23:18it. The the boardwalk got wrapped up

23:21around the wheels. She was stuck. She

23:23couldn't get up. She couldn't move

23:24forward. She couldn't move backward.

23:26Instantly, somebody working for city

23:28hall showed over, came over and helped

23:30him, got her out of the chair, picked up

23:33the chair, moved saw the the artificial

23:35boardwalk, and it was terrific.

23:39But my question that raised in school is

23:42if there's some person at any public

23:45event who is the point person for

23:48handicap access, maybe not a specialist,

23:50but knows the resources, knows whom to

23:53call.

23:54Another thought would be, do was anybody

23:59using a wheelchair that tested this

24:02system for wheelchair access to find out

24:05how well it works? It obviously doesn't

24:07work. Okay. Gay for pedestrians, but it

24:10wasn't so. So that's that's it was

24:12another thought that came to mind. Maybe

24:15think about something along the lines of

24:17I don't know what the legal format would

24:19be but there is a friends of the Lynn

24:21senior KJ Council on aging right could

24:25there be a friends of the Lynn

24:27disability commission

24:30and people who aren't on the commission

24:32but are active could help provide

24:35feedback somehow or another I don't

24:39I used to live in is part of their

24:41annual population survey would ask is

24:45there anyone in this residence who would

24:47want assistance special assistance in

24:49the event of an emergency and that's

24:51what you would put down we have two

24:52people here use wheelchair wide or

24:55whatever it is if we wanted Lisa Tobin

24:57to tell us who in town uses a wheelchair

25:00we I don't think we can ask her right

25:01now I don't think she knows does she

25:04does she have that kind of data so

25:07that's it we keep a million of wild

25:09thoughts I don't know what to do with

25:10them all but I just figured that I'd use

25:12today to to point them

25:14U and um

25:18uh you already talked about public

25:20relations for the right so I won't be

25:22related to that point. However, I

25:23noticed the city had a bit an RFP on the

25:27street recently

25:29for public relations.

25:32We have money to spend. Could some of

25:34your money be allocated to fund the

25:38public relations agency that the city I

25:40don't know if they hired anybody through

25:42that RFP or it was just a dream

25:45to fund some of the things that you were

25:47talking about doing today. Those are all

25:49great ideas but takes manpower.

25:52>> The outrage friends of the outrage of

25:54the committee could help with some of

25:56the manpower or maybe the PR agency

26:00could or give advice to guide everybody.

26:02That was just another thought that you

26:04stimulated all things. I'm sorry about

26:06this.

26:07>> And then the last and I guess this comes

26:10under the same rubric as the um

26:16PR which is education in general. I've

26:19heard the CHI study mentioned a few

26:22times

26:23and one of the things it points out that

26:25is normally

26:28and it's often overlooked is there's an

26:31education compliment was one of the

26:33three or four major I I'm going to give

26:35people a sad story at this time here

26:38story uh [clears throat] I was crossing

26:42state street where there's some

26:44construction going on a construction

26:46crew had the ramps blocked off. So I had

26:51to go to the curb, you know, down the

26:53street for across the street where

26:54there's no ramp. You try going down a a

26:58curb with one of these walkers. I landed

27:00on my nose.

27:02>> Okay. Well, that's that's that was

27:05that's my contrast. I was in Burlington

27:08once by the big mall and they had huge

27:11construction going on. The constructions

27:13workers saw me coming. They stopped the

27:16traffic in both directions. They send a

27:18guy to escort me across the street.

27:21After subse a few weeks later, I was at

27:23the same intersection and I noticed the

27:25big improvement. They have now temporary

27:28wheelchair ramps set up at some of the

27:32ramps, not all of them. Still, you

27:35couldn't plan a clear path by wheelchair

27:39from say the uh Lacopa restaurant

27:45to the YMCA.

27:47or it's Elliot only two of the ramps

27:49that you have to negotiate because this

27:51this construction crew had that one

27:53blocked off and the other one had that

27:55one blocked where there people are just

27:58aren't educated the minute you let

28:00people realize this I think that person

28:03might want to need this so I think this

28:05is there's more to be said about the

28:07education part of all this

28:10said nipping it

28:13>> all as always we appreciate your input

28:15your feedback back that you provide for

28:17us. And in most cases, there's things

28:19that are actionable that we can kind of

28:21move forward and and at least

28:23communicate with either department

28:25members or even explore like what path

28:28that we need to take with those next.

28:30So, thank you for for always for

28:32sharing.

28:35Uh any other public comment? Any other

28:37public comments? We'll close the portion

28:40of the public comment. Now, on to old

28:43business.

28:49old business. So, um I also included a

28:54proposal for

28:58the establishment of a subcommittee

29:02and um

29:05if you hopefully you had a chance to

29:07review that. The purpose of this

29:09committee would be to um the engagement

29:13and outreach subcommittee will be

29:15responsible for identifying events and

29:17resources, materials and methods for

29:19increasing engagement and awareness and

29:22connecting disabled in residents with

29:23city departments program services and

29:25organizations that assist um address

29:28andor support accessibility issues. So

29:31the goal of this committee um would be

29:34to start during its first year we'll

29:36work on the operational tasks tasks that

29:39support um becoming mature in that area.

29:43It's not easy and it does take a lot of

29:45commitment and time resources and the

29:49ability to kind of network and come up

29:52with solutions. So I don't want to

29:54diminish it in any way. There's a huge

29:55undertaking to to establish this type of

29:58committee. You'd be doing things like

29:59establishing a method for these are just

30:01a couple of the goals uh or possible

30:04goals, but doing things like

30:05establishing a method for collecting

30:07contact information for people that are

30:10interested to opt into either messaging

30:13or communications from the commission.

30:16Um establishing an online social media

30:19presence is something that we've talked

30:20about. identifying uh events that LDC

30:23can participate in whether it's a public

30:25health event, resource fairs, special

30:27events. I can tell you that on the 26th

30:30I went to Swam Scots Lind disability I

30:33mean Lynn Swamcott's disability

30:35commission fair that they have there and

30:37they had the room was filled with

30:40services um all kinds of services and so

30:43not just one specific not just physical

30:45disabilities, mental disabilities,

30:47visually impaired folks, um folks that

30:50have mobility issues, supporting folks

30:52that have mobility issues and and it was

30:54it was it was good to see that. Um I

30:57think that the Lind disability network

31:00at uh when we participated in theirs

31:02they were it was kind of like a similar

31:04fair just bringing together those

31:06resources for folks. Um it was down at

31:08the um Frederick Douglas Park and um so

31:14so they kind of like have a they started

31:16it off but we haven't done anything that

31:18I'm aware of like this before might be

31:20something we want to consider um

31:24estab building a network of partners

31:27identify and collecting additional

31:28resources

31:30um

31:32finalizing our mission statement we have

31:34one that's there is that really is that

31:36who we are committing to that and then

31:38also defining and finalizing a process

31:40for future sponsorship requests. We have

31:43one kind of in place that we follow as

31:45far as how we receive and make decisions

31:49on denial or approval. I don't think

31:50we've denied anything but um but really

31:53to kind of get that finalized this would

31:56be a membership of three people right so

31:58it's a chair it's a vice chair and it's

32:01a member and they would in terms of

32:03meeting pattern would probably meet at

32:06least 15 minutes either 5:00 from 5 5 to

32:105:15 or 15 minutes prior to the

32:13scheduled meeting here but it would be

32:14on the same Zoom meeting link and so um

32:18members u voted into Those positions

32:21would be responsible for that meet

32:24attending that meeting pattern and it

32:26would be strictly to related to um

32:29events, engagement, outreach activities

32:32and a quorum would be required to vote

32:35on those agenda items that happen in

32:37that subcommittee and then move that to

32:39the whole committee where the old

32:40committee would make decisions about

32:42that. And so that's what the the option

32:44one proposal outlines. Option two that's

32:49here is if the commission is not able to

32:51seat a full subcommittee um considering

32:54in the short term um adding a recurring

32:58engagement and outreach agenda item

33:01where the whole the committee as a whole

33:02could address that. Um it would be on a

33:05regular scheduled meeting agenda until a

33:07time comes that the commission has the

33:09capacity to establish a full

33:11subcommittee. Um,

33:15option three is not on here, but that

33:17other option three would be the take no

33:19action at this time.

33:21>> Uh, which is not something I'd like to

33:23do. I'd like us to be able to to do

33:26something if you know we had, you know,

33:27I want to do something. Um, and so I put

33:31forth this proposal. Um, maybe maybe a

33:34motion to discuss could be made in a

33:38form of a motion. Motion to discuss the

33:41subcommittee options as presented by our

33:44chair.

33:49>> Second, sir.

33:52>> Okay.

33:54>> For discussion.

33:55>> For discussion.

33:57think it's incredibly lofty and almost

34:00honorable. We can we can establish a

34:04subcommittee to begin

34:08to do a piece of this on an annual

34:10basis. Um I like the direction, but I

34:14know my personal commitment.

34:17As you can see, I've highlighted option

34:18two, but I've highlighted option two

34:21with an idea that we do put it on the

34:24agenda and we pick a goal. out of this

34:28that we see that the full committee can

34:32focus on and then take pieces to make

34:35that happen. Um versus

34:40I I can see a subcommittee for the first

34:42several almost getting overwhelmed with

34:45where do we start and what do you think

34:46we can do and we did a little of this

34:48and a little of that and then at the end

34:51of several meetings a little bit of this

34:54and that has been done. But I I I I look

34:56at the way this commission has

34:59functioned in the last six, eight, nine

35:01months and a goal set is equals success

35:07that I see in this commission. So what

35:09I'd like to see if we do go with option

35:12two is to really establish

35:15what a majority would like to see to

35:17move forward as a whole.

35:20That was my thought. Okay. Thank you.

35:26I don't I like establishing option one.

35:29Um

35:30I know I unfortunately wouldn't be the

35:34one to put forward my time on it because

35:35I know I wouldn't be able to give that

35:37amount of time. Um if people are willing

35:39to if we do have a member who is willing

35:42to I think it would I mean from reading

35:45this it seems like they would establish

35:48kind of the events and then bring that

35:50to the entire committee commission. Is

35:52that how it would work

35:54>> for votes or you kind of get through

35:57some of the initial details before

35:59bringing it to the commission?

36:01>> Right. Maybe maybe that subcommittee

36:04would come up with you know an event per

36:07month or six identified events that

36:09they're interested in to participate in

36:11through the year and then they would run

36:13with um making the contact setting

36:16things up and then bring it before the

36:18whole committee saying these are the

36:19things ones we identified and agreed to.

36:21Sometimes I get a lot of invitations

36:24last minute. Um, sometimes just the week

36:27before, do you want to come and do

36:28something? And so that can be a little

36:30bit challenging. I think when you have

36:32a, you know, sometimes you can do it,

36:34sometimes you can't. when you have a

36:35process or planning process in place, it

36:37makes it not easier to say no, but um

36:41being intentional about what you're

36:43participating in and um so yeah, I mean

36:48and that's one of the things like we

36:49need someone who maybe has some

36:52experience in that area and can say yes,

36:55here are some of the events that the

36:56commission should be focused on

36:58throughout the year and then making

37:00decisions on how what what our partic

37:02participation looks like.

37:04that

37:06um but it does take someone to have

37:09leadership with that like I I the

37:11commission this committee would need

37:13that type of leadership um and then

37:17there's the administrative tasks that

37:18are associated with that. So it is work.

37:20It is you're right it's a lofty um

37:23undertaking and we're down one

37:24commission member. So I mean I'm putting

37:26it all out on the table. Um

37:30personally I feel like um

37:35pie in the sky is to establish the sub

37:37the subcommittee. Um realistically

37:40option two with a commitment to address

37:42this as a regular agenda item and then

37:45taking small small pieces that we can

37:47along the way is is is not um it's not a

37:51no we won't do it. It's a we're actively

37:53still working on it. So um I definitely

37:58wanted to fulfill my commitment to bring

37:59before the commission some options if

38:01they wanted to explore them other so I'm

38:06not doing all this hogging I can hog up

38:08some time you know that uh Danny did you

38:10Danny did you have anything that you

38:12wanted to add about um a subcommittee uh

38:17engagement and outreach subcommittee

38:19>> yeah know I'm for it I just personally

38:22wouldn't be able to commit time to it

38:24but I think it would be very important

38:25for us to have it. And um as you know,

38:28I'm an interpreter. So every time I go

38:29to different events, I usually run into

38:32a situation where um you know, the most

38:35recent event I did was the Guatemalan

38:37Independence Day, and they had the same

38:39issue where they couldn't get um some

38:43folks up the stairs, people in

38:45wheelchairs,

38:47um you know, like around the area where

38:50the flag pole is and just stuff like

38:52that where it gets very challenging. Um,

38:55and often when I get called, you know,

38:58because I have a disability, but also

39:00I'm part of LDC and I'm an interpreter,

39:03when I get called to interpret at an

39:04event, they often ask me, hey, so what

39:07are some things I should keep in mind

39:08that to make, you know, our event

39:10accessible. So I I do think it would be

39:12valuable. It's just the time commitment

39:15right now would be challenging for me

39:16personally.

39:18>> Understood. Understood.

39:21Um, I like everyone else love the idea

39:24of the subcommittee, but it seems like I

39:27mean I was gonna say it seems like a lot

39:28of people are saying is the time

39:30commitment because [clears throat] even

39:31it's a double-edged sword because you're

39:33only talking about 15 minutes here, but

39:35when I read that I was like, is 15

39:37minutes enough time before a meeting and

39:38then even I had to leave work early

39:41already to get here? So like leaving

39:43work even earlier to get here for a pre

39:45meeting

39:46>> would be difficult. Uh, but I do love

39:50the idea of until maybe we're able to

39:53get there. But I do think part of this

39:56committee should also be doing outreach

39:58to get more members which could then

40:01open up our to have subcommittees.

40:04>> Uh, but in the meantime, is it possible

40:07for us to yes have it as a standing

40:10item, but us split up some of these

40:13tasks? All right. Like I I will openly

40:15say I'm willing to set up social media

40:17accounts for the disability commission

40:18and make posts.

40:20I'll take that on. You know, if someone

40:22else is willing to just start a Google

40:25calendar that we share of events, you

40:28know, like there could be a way to make

40:30this more manageable if we're all taking

40:32a piece of it

40:34>> and then bringing it to the meetings as

40:36a standing thing.

40:42>> My question

40:44Where did the fall for social media

40:48happen?

40:50because there was a disability

40:52commission Facebook page that Yes, there

40:55was. And there was an administrator

40:58and um I don't and I know it changed

41:04hands

41:06because it was Lori

41:08that had Lori.

41:14>> Yeah, it was a while ago. And then I'm

41:16trying to think who followed Li. There

41:17was one person that followed and then I

41:20don't know what happened. I would say co

41:22happened.

41:23>> Okay.

41:24>> Um and I don't so I don't know the lack

41:29of is is there is there a reason that

41:32there's not social media an Instagram a

41:36Facebook the the quick ones out there.

41:40Is it do we need to be an administrator

41:44appointed administrative through the

41:46city website?

41:48What is the step to get a

41:50>> I don't know the step but I'm guessing

41:51we would have to get something clear

41:54>> using you know city logo and posting on

41:58>> because it could come on behalf of the

42:00city.

42:01>> I don't know that I can find that out if

42:03you'd like me to reach out.

42:05>> Okay. Um or you could whatever you want.

42:08>> If I had a name of who I could reach at

42:10city hall to inquire that that's a great

42:12start for me. I can certainly at city

42:15hall

42:16>> besides

42:17more

42:20person

42:22>> I would think would John be the first

42:25point of contact there.

42:28Drew on on on which piece of it

42:31>> just to get any type of clearance to

42:33actually operate like a city of Lynn

42:36disability social media.

42:38>> Yeah, I would I would go through John

42:40Tibo or Ronnie Jacobson who's the

42:43mayor's new communications manager

42:47because she's taken over the website and

42:48the social the city social media. So I

42:50think if you reach out to the two of

42:52them that would be

42:55>> if you I will reach out to Marie if you

42:57want. I know her personally. I just saw

43:00her in the hallway on the way here. So

43:01if you want I'm reach out to her and

43:02I'll just see

43:03>> just l disability con. Yep.

43:06>> Okay. Thank you Jeff.

43:08>> Of course.

43:10>> So we'll explore I mean if there was an

43:12existing one it's probably dormant now.

43:17>> It's not.

43:18>> No. So

43:20>> I'm getting other cities

43:25>> and I'm getting other lin commissions

43:26like lin human rights commission comes

43:28up as a Facebook page.

43:34>> So I'm wondering if it was deleted

43:38>> through via the administrator. I bet

43:43>> especially if they would only if they

43:45only had like one administrator and

43:47maybe they deleted their

43:48>> That's what I'm thinking.

43:50>> You know, maybe they decided to delete

43:51it. I'm not sure. That would make sense.

44:01>> Okay. So,

44:06it sounds like we're we're leaning a

44:08little bit more towards option two.

44:09We're not leaning towards option three,

44:11which I'm happy because that means we'll

44:12be doing nothing. So, option option two

44:16would be that um if we're not able to to

44:18fully seat a full subcommittee, consider

44:21adding it as a recurring item, agenda

44:24item. And so, I would say what is the

44:27wish of the commission at that in that

44:29regard? I would put that forward as a

44:32motion to adopt the option two in the

44:36LIN disability subcommittee options for

44:39engagement with outreach.

44:42>> I will second that motion.

44:45>> And so the motion has been accepted or

44:48passes. Well, no, it doesn't pass yet.

44:51Not yet.

44:53Voice. Um Michelle, yes.

44:58Tracy left. Patty, yes.

45:02>> Danny,

45:05>> yes.

45:06>> Thank you.

45:07>> Yep.

45:08>> Chris,

45:09>> yes.

45:10>> And yes,

45:11>> yes.

45:12>> Motion passes.

45:16>> Okay. And I think so with that agenda

45:19that newly added agenda item when uh a

45:22couple weeks before our next scheduled

45:25meeting throughout we can identify some

45:28of the things that were either like

45:29we'll find a way to communicate and make

45:31the work happen outside of the meeting

45:33even though it's not an official like

45:35meeting committee work but we'll find a

45:37way to continue to continue the work and

45:39then bring it on as an agenda item or

45:42add it to the agenda item of engagement

45:45and outreach.

45:50Um, okay. So, that was the first old

45:53business. The next old business is two

45:56life communities variance request.

46:00So, this one here, so this variance

46:03request was submitted on Labor Day

46:06weekend. Was it Labor Day weekend? It

46:08was on a Friday and unfortunately it did

46:11not make the agenda for the Tuesday

46:13meeting that was scheduled. So there was

46:15a variance request submitted by two life

46:17communities. They had four variance

46:19request types and um

46:23when I circled back to them to let them

46:24know they had missed a deadline for the

46:26September 1st date um we proposed an

46:30October 6th date. they were not able to

46:32come to this meeting date and so we um

46:37um offered a possible November 10th

46:39assuming the meeting would be moved from

46:41the 3rd to the 10th for which they had

46:43agreed that they would come and present

46:45to the commission on those four

46:47variances.

46:48Um about a week and a half ago we got a

46:52copy from the architectural assessment

46:55board.

46:57um they sent us a copy of the approved

46:59for variance requests and so I reached

47:03out to our uh [clears throat] legal

47:05regarding this because obviously they it

47:09it seems like a bypass of the Lind

47:11disability commission. Um

47:14but it turns out that the um AAB our

47:19architectural access board does not

47:22require the approval for L or the

47:25disability commission in order to move

47:28forward or approve those requests.

47:31And so um even though it may seem like

47:33there was some movement around in the

47:35process um they are the authority on

47:38approval of tile. And so um

47:43legal has informed us that um so so

47:47nothing bad nothing wrong has happened

47:49here. However uh if you looked at the

47:51variance request they seemed like they

47:54were proactive

47:56requests in terms of um making the units

48:00accessible. And those requests were

48:03based off of um experience with um the

48:09challenges they may have had during

48:10development when they're installing like

48:12sinks and

48:13>> coming to talks and depth. Yeah. So it

48:16looked like they were trying to go above

48:18and beyond cons what the regulation

48:21requires to make it better. So it seems

48:24like a positive thing is my point. Um my

48:26my concern was that well what if a

48:29variance request comes through that the

48:33commission feels like is a possible

48:35barrier wants to speak on behalf of

48:37people that may be disabled and then but

48:40if it goes right to the board you know

48:42they've approved it you know what is our

48:45purpose here um and so I'm going to um

48:49reach out to I think the name is Molly

48:52yeah and just um let her know that we're

48:55still inviting them to come and speak on

48:58the temp because I think it'll be

48:59helpful for us to understand

49:02and in that process whether it's a

49:04positive or negative to understand why

49:06they're making the request and how it

49:09impacts whether it's on a positive or a

49:10negative the a disabled resident and so

49:14um they're uh unless they back out

49:16they're still going to be here on the

49:1810th to kind of go over these requests

49:20with us um like I said if you read them

49:22you'll probably notice that they do seem

49:24no red flags came up. Um um at least in

49:27my opinion, no red real red flags came

49:29up for me. Although I did have a couple

49:31of questions that I hope you answer.

49:34>> Copy. I outlined something, but I hope

49:36it

49:38No, I have a copy of it, but not the one

49:40I used.

49:42>> Hey, Michelle.

49:44>> Hi. Yes.

49:45>> Sorry, I just had a quick question. Are

49:46we talking about the one where the

49:48development will be finishing next uh

49:50fall in 2027?

49:53Um I don't know the exact timeline for

49:56when it it's going to be done. It sounds

49:58like it, but it's the um two life

50:00communities. It's on um Solomini House

50:03that's going to be on Lynfield Street.

50:05>> It's for folks over 60some, right?

50:08>> It is for an elderly population. Yeah,

50:11senior population. Yeah.

50:12>> Okay. My only concern with this one,

50:15I'll be honest, um just kind of being

50:17mindful of the pulse in the community

50:19from different people that I've been

50:21interpreting for and so forth. Um

50:24I I want to be mindful that the project

50:29they have going is a multi multi

50:31multi-million dollar project. Um,

50:35so if we were to go forward, we'd be

50:37putting money into something that on one

50:39hand, yes, it would be providing

50:43accessible I think one of them was like

50:45sinks and then a control center and and

50:47other among other things. Um,

50:51on the other hand, um,

50:55I [clears throat] think when there's a

50:56multi-million dollar project in play, I,

51:00you know, thinking of people in the

51:01community, it kind of leaves a bad taste

51:03when it's like, so they're already have

51:05investors and blah blah blah with

51:07millions going in and they're still

51:09seeking um, free money to get sinks when

51:13they should already be able to provide

51:15those sinks. you know, I I just want to

51:17be mindful of that facet of the

51:20situation. I'm not opposed to it, but I

51:23do want to consider that um that that is

51:26a reality that that's on the table with

51:28them.

51:31>> Thank you for your input, Danny. Yeah, I

51:33think the the what what I've seen in the

51:36application is it's mostly about um

51:39appliances and placement of things,

51:41right? So, the shower shower valve was

51:43one. Um, the depth of the sinks was

51:46another one. Um, the refrigerator

51:49drawers I believe was another one. So,

51:51it sounds like it's more specific to

51:53appliances and stuff like that. As far

51:55as the money that's going into it, like

51:58yeah, I don't think there's any

52:00financial

52:01>> I was going to say I feel like this is

52:02giving the approval to not make these

52:04accessible

52:06features right away. And then if people

52:09need them, they refer a lot to their 504

52:12policy and reasonable accommodation

52:14request policy. So this is my first time

52:17looking at one of these, but that was my

52:18assumption looking at this was they're

52:20essentially saying this is a thing that

52:22would make it accessible. However, it

52:25doesn't fit

52:26what we want or able to. I'm not going

52:28to put words in their mouth on that

52:30part. But so, we're looking for an okay

52:32to move forward with what we want to do,

52:35but when a resident requests it through

52:37our policy, we'll make it. That's what I

52:40took away from this because my question

52:42was going to be again, I'm the new guy,

52:44so I don't know how much we have in

52:45this, but was going to be can we see

52:48this policy? if I want to make sure

52:49you're not making rest jump through 40

52:52hoops

52:53>> to get an accessible refrigerator. Uh

52:56but that's what I took from this.

52:59>> Okay.

53:01>> Um well, it' be good to hear from Two

53:03Life Communities to address it and it

53:05looks like it's already be been approved

53:08and there's no action that we could take

53:10at this time. from what legal said, we

53:13wouldn't even be able to be um we

53:17wouldn't meet the criteria to be a p

53:21person in in the position to appeal it

53:24at this point. I don't know. I don't

53:25think I feel comfortable about that part

53:27of it, but we don't have any legal

53:29course that we could take as a

53:30commission. Um there was a mention of

53:33timelines within 10 days um to

53:3910 days to appeal

53:42but I don't know that it is our body

53:44that can do that appeal and so um

53:47>> I don't know I think definitely worth

53:51looking more into

53:55what is our core like what is our course

53:57of action what is our what is our

53:58purpose here like what can we I don't

54:00know I almost feel like what are we here

54:03for then?

54:05>> It does feel like that's our role is

54:10paperwork was shuffled in approval

54:13is not mandatory. So why is it shuffled

54:15over

54:22we read this differently like we

54:24interpret it differently. I might be

54:25wrong, but that's the way I I took it.

54:28>> But that's enlightening if that's the

54:31way

54:31>> I know one of them was controls. They're

54:35talking about a couple inches. I believe

54:37that's the way the control should be

54:39located because they should be in the

54:42center,

54:44>> but I thought it was their go their

54:46to-do list, not their policy if needed

54:49list.

54:53Maybe

55:01Something's being off centered on

55:03controls.

55:05>> I have two blank applications. I'm so

55:08lucky.

55:11>> Yeah. So like the syncs, it's saying the

55:14sink required depth is 6 and 12 in.

55:16We're requesting permission to install

55:18syncs at the next available depth which

55:21is 8 in. and then says, "Two life has

55:26the A504 policy and reasonable

55:28accommodation request policy included in

55:30the lease. If any users find the 8 in

55:33deep sink challenging, Two Life will

55:35replace the sink within 30 days at no

55:37cost to the tent."

55:39So, the wordings like that in it make me

55:42think they're saying this is what it

55:43should be to be peak accessibility,

55:46but for whatever reason, we're asking

55:49for this instead. But we have this

55:51policy in case everyone's going to need

55:55it and requests it

56:02seems a little more important.

56:08So what I would encourage members to do

56:12is to

56:15read the requests, formulate your

56:17questions, send your questions to me so

56:20that we have them um for when we invite

56:23them in. I mean there may not be no

56:25action that we can take in this

56:26particular instance, but at least we'll

56:29be we'll have the questions get the

56:31questions answered and be informed when

56:33if such another request comes before the

56:35commission again. Um, and then maybe I

56:39mean I don't know, maybe it's maybe that

56:42exchange or interaction that we have

56:43with two life communities can

56:47make a difference or make a change. Um,

56:50maybe we can make a recommendation at

56:51that time and they'd be willing to hear

56:52that. I think that it'll be important to

56:55hear from them and answer questions that

56:56we may have to start.

57:00>> So, as of right now, it is planned for

57:03them to come. They have agreed to come

57:05on November 10th. Yeah.

57:08>> Because it's not it today is an um two

57:12life issue, but the next request. So

57:17really our questions and considerations

57:20are to the ABA board, what our

57:22relationship is, what is our role when a

57:25variance request comes to us. If they're

57:28saying

57:30thank you for reading the soul book and

57:33that's it.

57:34>> I think True Life correct is just the

57:39person at this present at this project.

57:43>> Right. So I don't want to intimidate two

57:45life with questions that they're really

57:48answering to our question our our

57:50questions to the ADA board versus this

57:53individual that's building on this

57:55property because there'll be another

57:56individual building on another property

57:58and they're going to give us the same

58:00answer because is that what they can

58:02follow?

58:05>> Okay. So, we need to connect with the

58:07architectural assessment board and maybe

58:10even invite them to have a conversation

58:13with us or into a future meeting to one

58:18um

58:20discuss what the expectations are of

58:22this commission. This commission's

58:25office of the disability commission

58:26might have.

58:27>> So, they're they're state organizations

58:30develop and enforce regulations make

58:32public buildings accessible. All

58:34municipal commissions advise local

58:37governments on accessibility and

58:38compliance.

58:42>> So they should be the experts there.

58:46>> I don't

58:51>> Yeah.

58:51>> Yeah. Okay. I was like you meant to like

58:55>> it's my understanding was that they

58:58because then we had a school project at

59:01one point that we

59:03>> maybe that was because the city of Linds

59:06developer at the time and we were able

59:08to make some changes to their request.

59:10>> Right.

59:11>> But that was a little different

59:12situation because

59:13>> the building was already built. It's

59:15very old. They had some

59:17>> Yeah. It was the bathrooms and the

59:19kindergartens and

59:21>> so on so on.

59:22>> We were able to negotiate for addition

59:25but I'm not sure that even got done.

59:27>> I think there was

59:28>> they asked for our signature ahead of

59:31their application. Wasn't that what it

59:33was?

59:34>> To the

59:38>> um two life

59:40>> not two life the city of Lynn. Wasn't

59:42that before it even got to this point?

59:45>> Which one? the four the school

59:48>> when we add in the bathroom.

59:51>> Um

59:55>> I don't recall.

59:56>> Guess we need to see more of the the

59:58process because I know we did something

1:00:00at the armory

1:00:01>> committee came to us before they went to

1:00:06>> the armory. Remember we signed off on

1:00:08something they were doing, but was that

1:00:10just a letter of support? That's a

1:00:12letter of support before the

1:00:14installation of

1:00:16>> we would sign a letter of support for

1:00:17the school until they

1:00:23>> Yeah.

1:00:24>> I remember one was with the historical

1:00:26commission at the armory and it was like

1:00:28a tread height or something

1:00:30>> in a rail

1:00:30>> and they had wrote up like as to like

1:00:36was it the feas that they weren't able

1:00:37to make it peaceful the project? Yes,

1:00:40they had the elevator at the opposite

1:00:42end of the ramps and yeah,

1:00:49>> but that worked. And again, another city

1:00:52project,

1:00:53>> right?

1:00:53>> Looking for us as the city as a whole to

1:00:56meet the letter a letter of support.

1:00:58>> Yeah.

1:00:59>> So, I don't know what a non because this

1:01:01is a nonprofit. I don't know what's in

1:01:03the Yeah.

1:01:05Um

1:01:08so yeah maybe um I'll reach out to AAB

1:01:13and then also extend an invitation to

1:01:15maybe come and join us at a future

1:01:17meeting meeting to discuss

1:01:20um some of those processes and

1:01:22expectations so that we have a a little

1:01:24bit of a clearer picture on our role and

1:01:27what their role is.

1:01:36Um,

1:01:39okay. Now that we've almost thoroughly

1:01:42beat that to death, um, any new

1:01:45business?

1:01:51Any new business?

1:01:57Okay. None. What is the wish of the

1:01:59commission?

1:02:00>> Motion to adjourn.

1:02:03>> Second.

1:02:04>> Not available. Okay.

1:02:06>> All in favor? All

1:02:07>> in favor?

1:02:09I I

1:02:11>> Thank you, Danny.

1:02:12>> Thank you guys. Have a good one and

1:02:14congratulations.

1:02:16>> Thank you.