2026-10-28 - Community Center Committee
Summary
Built from the video's auto-generated captions only; no agenda or minutes were read. The date is the video listing date and is not independently confirmed. Names and figures may be misheard, and private individuals are not named.
- Opening: called to order at 5:17 PM; one member was absent and another expected late. No guests were online, and a Select Board member attended. No agenda changes or committee role updates.
- Town staff update: staff time was limited, so work on legislative changes tied to a tax increment financing program took priority ahead of the election; attention returns to the RFP afterward. A sample RFP from the design firm was received, so that item was removed from the updates list.
- Fact sheet: the updated committee timeline fact sheet was reviewed. Three small corrections were agreed (remove the bold highlighting in the mission statement, add a missing parenthesis after 2019, add a space before 2022 in part two), after which it goes to the town webmaster for posting. Months were kept in the timeline because charges do not follow the calendar year.
- Select Board presentation deck: the committee walked through a deck built from the phase two deck, adding images from the building conceptual design report dated October 2025. The Select Board may include newer members, so an abridged recap of phases two and three is planned. Community Center Project
- Charge focus one, fairgrounds access: the access agreement with the agricultural and horticultural society that runs the fairgrounds is signed and recorded; wording was changed to say the May 2026 town meeting authorized the Select Board to enter the agreement, and to call the counterpart the fair association or board rather than the fairgrounds board. The land itself remains the fairgrounds.
- Charge focus two, fundraising: activities listed were a capital campaign proposal from a consulting firm in November of last year, meetings with an events firm, an AI-assisted fundraising presentation at Bowdoin College and a Zoom follow-up, a special meeting inviting community members to discuss a fundraising group, identification of potential grant writers, and a list of local businesses. Over July, August and September the committee built a 2026 pre-campaign planning document (case for support, leadership structure, gift range chart, donor naming opportunities).
- Capital campaign manager: next steps could be a feasibility study, a campaign manager or both, but the committee is holding off until the Select Board decides on the next design stage. Quotes were around 100,000 dollars or more (one about 10,000 dollars a month), and the committee's own summer work was meant to avoid that cost. The slide wording will say the information goes back to the Select Board alongside the decision on releasing an RFP.
- Charge focus three, RFP for the next design phase: the sample RFP will not be sent to the Select Board, to avoid the impression that a potential bidder wrote it. The RFP needs Select Board authorization before release; the goal is the second Select Board meeting in November, not the same night as the transfer station engineering presentation. Terms will be spelled out (request for proposals) for the public.
- Charge focus four, community engagement: wording settled on attending the May town meeting, updates to the online committee timeline fact sheet, and ongoing community conversations. The official annual town meeting is the November election, so the May meeting should be called the May town meeting.
- Pending-items slide: dropped, since so much is undecided; a prior options slide tied to pre-planning will be revisited. The deck and fact sheet go out for committee review by Sunday night, with edits Monday and materials due the following Wednesday for the November 5 Select Board meeting. No new slides are expected.
- Minutes: the September 28 minutes were approved on a motion and second.
- Action items: the deck owner updates the slideshow; the fact sheet owner updates the fact sheet; the chair gives the final okay before posting.
- Next meeting: set for Monday, November 10 at 5:15 PM downstairs, after the November 5 Select Board meeting; the RFP is expected to be available for review by then. A Select Board member noted a school facility study presentation the next evening.
- Adjournment: on a motion and second, adjourned at 6:22 PM.
Related meetings: 2026-09-28 - Community Center Committee and 2026-11-10 - Community Center Committee.
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Sources
- Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCkaNBjUAAI (town YouTube channel; auto-generated captions; date taken from the video listing)
- Meetings pages: https://www.topshammaine.com/bosmeetings (Select Board) and https://www.topshammaine.com/planning-meetings (Planning Board); other boards list meetings on their own Meetings pages
- Town: Topsham
- Issue: Community Center Project
Video
Transcript
These are auto-generated captions; names and numbers may be misheard. Private names are redacted.
Transcript
I haven't gotten there. I was pulling up
the
>> Do you want to start? You want me to do?
>> I can start and then you can take over.
>> Sure.
>> What time?
So, um, Tubson Community Center
committee called the meeting to order at
5:17.
We have, uh, [name] is absent. I
believe [name] is coming
in late to the meeting.
And just an FYI, [name] has mentioned
she needs to leave a little early
tonight.
>> Of course.
Invitation to guest present to introduce
anyone online work.
>> So the link is there on the calendar.
>> Yeah. Okay. I'm doing it now.
>> Uh no one is online.
>> No one's online. And in the audience we
have uh select board member [name]
with us tonight.
Would you like to make any comments or
anything before we get started or Okay.
Right. I have
>> questions for you.
>> Okay. Sure.
>> Uh any changes to this agenda tonight?
>> Okay.
On that
any individual committee roles to update
or roll updates to share?
I don't believe anybody has anything. At
least I don't. Anyone else? Nope. All
right. We're zooming right along here.
[name] town updates.
Um,
I don't know if this is the last
meeting's minutes or if this is I guess
it's the last meeting minutes, but
actually it's probably what I was going
to update. Um, is I unfortunately my
time's more limit than I thought it was
going to be because of a couple
different things going on, but um I've
decided it's more important right now
for me to get the tiff changes to the
right people in the legislature so that
[clears throat] as soon as the
election's done, it's in their hands.
So, I've been focusing more on that than
on the looking at the RFP. So, my goal
is to get the tip stuff.
Um, compare things to [name] next
week and then so that I can give it to
these types. Those will have it right
after the election,
>> right? Because that's more stringent
timelines
>> because they have to get all their
legislation, right?
>> Right. Okay.
>> So, then after that, I will turn my
attention to the RFP.
>> Okay.
>> I think that's all I got.
>> Okay. Anyone
any questions for [name]
on that very brief presentation?
All right. Great.
Um, so number six, Haramman updates.
Unless [name] gave you any info, I think
we'll just uh,
>> um, she did send the only Haramman
update I think we were going to have was
whether or not [name] sent back the sample
RFP.
>> Yeah,
>> he did send one.
>> And he did send one.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> So, I think that that's all we needed
from that piece because now it's in your
hands, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> So, that was the only reason it was
still on there. So, I think we can now
officially take it off because we have
the report.
>> We got the consensus to use the pictures
>> and
it's not showing me up there no matter
which way I try to go. And it keeps
telling me, oh, waiting for host
to start the webinar.
It's definitely started because we're in
it. Let's see.
Put the wrong one.
>> So, as soon as it says 1021 Community
Center Committee,
>> so as soon as um [name] and [name] can
figure that out, we'll go right to what
we've put together so far for the
presentation. Before we do that, do we
want to have a quick chat about the
updated fact sheet or do we want to do
that when we get to that part of the
doesn't matter to me?
higher road. How long that will take you
to
Has everyone had a chance to review the
updated fact sheet?
So the only thing we or the only thing I
did was to
consolidate some of the earlier bullets
into one. So like under part two it had
four bullets. I consolidated it down to
two to save some space and
um added some more dates so that we
could expand a little bit more on part
four.
Um, and I tried to stage it from each
time we had a um
a task from
>> from our charge
>> from our charge from the select board.
>> I thought it sounded great when I didn't
have any
>> I read it through. It looks great.
>> Yeah, I like the format.
[laughter]
>> I don't know if it's the same link or
different link, but the sign with a
meeting. So,
>> so so so minor under part one. I just
noticed that we're missing a parenthesy.
>> Okay.
>> Started 2019.
>> Yep. [clears throat]
>> Nice catch.
>> [name], I count on you for these.
[laughter]
It's really nice to see it because I
didn't print it. Nice to see it this
way. I'm noticing the bolded parts of
the mission.
>> Yeah.
>> I just wanted to see
I just I don't remember those being
bolded.
Do we want them to be bolded? I mean,
desires, affordable, and
multigenerational are the things we've
chosen to highlight by bolding them.
>> Yeah.
>> But there's [clears throat] other
things, too, that are equally important,
I think. I don't know. I don't know that
it needs to be. It just keeps dropping
me in this.
>> I wonder if I opened the wrong meeting.
>> I just went to the link you sent me.
>> Right. But maybe I open my energy
committee meeting link instead of my
community.
>> I just noticed one more thing on the
>> Can you send me your slide without my
screen
>> for documentation or website? I think it
makes sense to be
>> I think some people might argue that
accessible is just as important as
affordable.
>> Yeah. And so, do we really want to bring
that argument,
you know, up?
>> Need more icons there.
>> Um, just a quick note on part two where
it says started in 2022, there needs to
be a space between started and 2022.
>> I'm just
teamwork, [name]. [laughter]
>> [clears throat]
>> Um, so back to what they were saying
with the uh the mission of the community
center.
>> Yeah.
>> They're questioning particular words
being bolded or not.
>> Oh, this is multitasking.
>> We can give you a [clears throat]
minute.
>> Is it going to let you open it or do I
have to download the whole thing and
then send it to you? It's going to be a
link.
Just wait for the There we go. Now it's
up here.
>> Scroll down.
>> Open.
>> Yep.
>> Hallelujah. Thank you.
>> Now go back to Zoom and share screens.
>> We are smarter than technology.
What do you think about bolded?
>> Um, I probably did that a while ago when
we were trying to do it, but we can we
can take the bold off. It's fine.
>> I was going to say bold all of it.
Personally, [laughter]
>> I think either all needs to be bolded or
none of it needs.
>> Yeah.
>> So, none of it bolded.
>> I did not get all the notes on
everything you guys just said. There are
two other super small formatting like
there's a space needed after or before
2022 in part two
>> and then start and then yeah parentheses
after 2019.
>> Yep.
>> And then that was it so far.
>> Okay.
I gave some thought to whether or not
the months were needed, but I think it's
great. I don't didn't land on they're
not needed, but I gave some thought to
that.
>> Yeah, I think I think we did that to
help show um because our charges don't
go calendar year, right?
>> You know, so it kind of gives us a a
time frame.
>> Y
>> as to when things occurred. So
>> I think there's reasons for it for sure.
So if so we just have those three
corrections then to not have any bold
wording in the mission statement um the
parentheses and then the space and once
those corrections are made then send it
to [name]
>> and then I will send it to [name] to put an
updated copy on the website.
>> Excellent.
>> Great.
>> Thank you.
>> All right. Wonderful.
>> Okay. So
[name] and I got together
at some point
>> recently. I don't remember.
>> I don't know.
>> It was a Saturday.
>> Um and so basically what we did is we
took the deck of what we used for phase
two.
um and added in uh in a couple of places
we added in the pictures from the
herabin report and we took the actual
charge that was given to us and then we
started to build out this deck. There
are a couple of slides that are missing
some information and I think how we want
to word that and what we want to say
when we present it. I think both [name]
and I felt like it needed the whole
committee's input on it before we made
those decisions. Yeah.
>> Um but let's go ahead and walk through
what we have so far. So [name], if you
want to go to the next slide.
>> Um this is exactly the same. This is our
mission. We always like to have it at
the beginning, but I did change out the
picture to the draft picture from the
Haramman report because I think it just
looks cool. So um it's the same mission.
I didn't change anything else, but I did
add image from Haramman building
conceptual design report dated 10 to
2025. So, we're giving them credit for
the report. Should there be a period at
the end of citizens?
>> Oh, yes.
Got it.
Or you've got it.
>> Yep.
>> Or you've got it. I don't know. One of
you's got it. I was hoping to edit in
it, but
>> Will make the change if I put the
period.
Yeah, if you
let
I see a blue box blue box at the top
right something about edit to edit.
>> Oh,
>> permission to edit
access.
>> Oh, all right. Well, we'll do it. That's
it. Okay.
>> You don't want to trust me with that.
[laughter]
>> All right. So, next one.
Um this is just giving once again just
to align for um presenting to the select
board and we are at this point going to
be potentially presenting to some newer
select board members. Um it would be
great to just give a quick overview of a
really a bridged version of what we have
here that we you know is this phase two
was this and then phase three um is what
we're working on right now. So we'll go
over that.
The next one is the charge itself
um in a different order than how the
uh how it was given to us because and
it's not showing I think there's some
might be some design elements in there.
Um but
we wanted to put it in the order that we
want to talk about it. So we started
with the town to coordinate efforts to
finalize agreement on fairgrounds for
access. Check. Um manage fundraising
associated activities,
retain and work with a capital manager,
develop and release RFP and TCC to
continue to engage with community
members. Um and that's kind of where we
realized we hadn't updated this in a
while. So that's kind of where that
stemmed from.
So this one focus number one fairgrounds
access point. The charge is the town
will coordinate efforts to finalize an
access agreement with the fairgrounds.
The topsome town manager met with the
fairgrounds board to negotiate and
finalize an agreement ensuring access
through the fairgrounds if the town
develops the site. Both parties have
completed and signed the legal
documents. You might want to see who the
parties are town meeting as well as the
um board of directors of the second
agriculture horicultural sorry
do you want to or I can I don't know you
so tell me how you want
>> saying both parties
>> y
>> say the town meeting and the board of
directors
Baytown meeting.
>> So at the May at the annual meeting in
May, they we voted on it.
>> Yep.
>> And
>> or actually it gave this the town
meeting gave the select board the
approval to finalize the details, but I
think it's important that say who was
involved. So
>> So the May town the Maytown meeting
authorized.
>> Yeah. The select board. the select board
>> to enter into an agreement.
>> I used to know short hand when I was in
high school.
>> I change it every other word.
>> I'm such a silly or or just to enter
>> into an agreement with the
Sangok
Agricultural
and Horicultural Society. Right. Did I
get that right, [name]?
>> You did correct?
Sagot [snorts]
>> agricultural
>> agricultural and horicultural
>> society
society.
>> Okay. [snorts]
>> So that means we're changing that.
Should we send should we then say
something afterwards that the
documents were [snorts]
>> the documents have finalized or
something?
>> The documents have been final signed and
finalized.
>> Oh, look at that. Live. [clears throat]
I didn't realize I I was should say at
the May 2026 town meeting.
>> Oh,
see
because the town meeting is a body.
>> You read my
>> say the May town meeting.
>> He's saying no to that.
>> Look at what I wrote. [laughter]
>> May town meeting or do we want to say
May 2026? Town meeting 2026. Town
meeting authorize the select board
to enter
an agreement
>> into enter into an agreement
with the Saga Hawk
agricultural.
We have a saga.
>> I do the same thing.
[laughter]
>> Agricultural
and horicultural society. Period.
>> May I have one tiny piece?
>> Yeah. I never saw the legal paper that
both sides signed. So I don't know what
words they use, but nobody calls it the
fairgrounds board.
>> Nobody.
>> So what are they called?
>> Topsome fair board.
>> Okay.
>> Oh, okay.
>> It's never ever fairs.
>> Okay.
>> That that means the the
grass.
>> Okay.
>> Top some referred to as fair ground.
>> Yeah. I'm sorry.
>> The board association.
>> It's a board.
>> And [name] is saying not to have at the
May town meeting. Just have the mate
[snorts] 2026
without at
>> because the group that are assembled
there were a body. [clears throat]
>> Okay.
>> The May 2026 town meeting authorized the
select board. Should I always ask this
should select board be capitalized?
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. because you're referring to a
specific one.
>> Yeah.
>> So when you go back up to the charge, it
says some fair too. Yeah.
>> Not with the fair grounds.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> And also in your major focus one.
>> Okay.
>> This town meeting.
>> Yes.
the other ones.
>> So after society period
>> and then say the documents have been
signed and formalized
>> signed executed and recorded
>> and recorded for that
don't know if it's
appropriate but
Okay.
Change that to some higher board. And
then
>> so [name], you're saying under the
charge.
>> Yeah.
>> Change it to change take out fair
grounds.
>> Well, on you know on this slide
specifically under the word charge and
then under the focus.
>> The focus I think would say fair
grounds. That's
>> town to coordinate efforts to finalize
agreements with
>> the top fair
>> heard it being referred to in so many
>> various
nobody ever calls it fairgrounds.
>> That's funny. I didn't know that.
>> So the fairgrounds is the space but when
you're talking about anything else
>> because he's got to he would have to
change it.
>> I have to change it.
>> Oh because I'm editing this. See how
it's all red? I'm editing the slide
above it.
>> So, should I go?
>> Yeah, go up one.
>> Town to coordinate efforts to finalize
agreement with Thompson Fair
>> for access
>> for access. I don't know if I like the
way that sounds. with the tops of
should we say should we say tops of fair
board there
[name]
>> uh
>> no
>> I don't know I I didn't see the legal
word
>> the legal document actually says psychic
agriculture society
>> I think just the tops of sufficient.
>> Okay.
>> Is that the only two places you hear
that so far?
>> There was one more on this page under
the charge.
>> Oh,
thank you.
>> And then are we still going to care
access point? the ground.
>> Do we still want to call
>> That's the actual land. So, is that
okay?
>> I I missed your question.
>> Under where it says focus one
fairgrounds access point. Is that still
okay to call it fairgrounds there, do
you think?
>> Yeah, it's the actual land, right? The
ground. Okay. All right.
>> Wow.
>> Going once, going twice.
>> Interesting.
>> Is fairgrounds one word or two? I always
get that one mixed up.
>> I don't know.
I've seen it both ways.
>> That'd be really
>> I would lean towards one as well.
>> Yes.
>> Great.
>> Okay,
>> moving on. Next slide.
>> All right,
>> so sure everybody's going to have
thoughts on this one. Focus number two,
fundraising activities. We tried to keep
it general because while the charge
talked more about actually hiring, we
wanted to instead list out the
activities that we did. Um, so we did a
lot of searching in our calendars to
make this happen because I don't know if
you guys remember [clears throat] all
the dates that we did everything. So we
met with [name] in November. So we
bet [name] of Canning
Consulting presented a capital campaign
proposal to the committee in November of
last year. Committee members also met
with [name] events. Uh committee
members attended project evidence AI
presentation at Bowden College to
explore its use in capital campaign
planning. The committee met with project
evidence via Zoom to discuss the group's
uh current fundraising focus. That
sentence isn't right to discuss groups.
>> The groups.
>> Are you trying to do this
chronologically? Because CC is before
nine is before 11.
>> No. No. We just listed it all out and
then went back and put the dates in
>> and then we said, "Oh, right. We did
that." Oh. Oh, yeah. And we did that.
[laughter]
I did not in I did not intentionally try
to do them in chronological order.
>> So if the committee went with project
evident via Zoom to discuss
>> the groups
>> the groups
that would be wouldn't it be apostrophe?
Yes.
the group's current fundraising focus.
You're
>> right.
>> The current discuss the current
fundraising
>> the committee.
>> Oh, that would be another option.
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Just take [clears throat]
the whole word.
I think under committee members the
second one does not need also.
There's a little bit of discounting the
other maybe.
Okay.
The committee invited community members
interested in fundraising to a special
meeting to discuss forming a fundraising
group. I don't know if group is the
right word there.
>> Oh, that
we call it.
>> As you can see, that one was actually
happened before our charge, but it was
still part of what we did as far as
fundraising activities. Um, the
committee has begun identifying
potential grant writers and future
submission opportunities
and the committee has begun creating a
comprehensive list of topome businesses
for future engagement.
>> Okay. Did we forget anything
>> on the second one? just needs a period
after events because all the other ones
have a period before the date.
>> If you don't like the word group, what
if we put team?
>> Something adjunct, you know, like
>> we've talked about how it would be us
overseeing another group or
>> subcommittee to Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I think we'll just leave it as group for
now. Um,
but is there anything we forgot or do we
think this captures the activities we've
done over the last year or so in regards
to fundraising?
>> I'm looking here, sorry, at the capital
campaign leadership structure that we
came up with this one.
>> And here we have it as finance team
maybe. So just heads up. It doesn't
matter for maybe for this thing, right?
>> But that you just said finance team,
this is fundraising.
>> Oh yeah, that's true. So this is the
cabinet. If this all happened,
>> all of this would be included in this
fundraising,
>> right?
>> Cabinet. Okay. Yeah, got it. You're
right.
>> I think cabinet and subcommittee is all
too formal if we haven't even gotten
into that yet. [clears throat]
>> So, fundraising activities
continued. After project evidence
presentation, the committee recognized
an opportunity to use existing data,
feedback, and AI to develop pre-ampaign
materials. The pre- campaign planning
document helps to establish a structured
framework, define objectives, and assess
organizational readiness before
fundraising and marketing initiatives
begin. During the committee's July,
August, and September meetings, the team
created a 2026 pre-ampa planning
document. This document includes case
for support, campaign leadership
structure, gift range chart, and donor
naming opportunities.
edits changes.
>> Nice rock.
>> Next.
>> Um I think my only comment on that one
is the picture.
>> I know.
>> Okay. [laughter]
>> It's tried so many times. But my thought
was is if we're including this in the
documents we're sending, then at least
they'll know what we're talking about.
>> Okay. [clears throat]
And I'm also happy to try to help if you
want me to if you want to give me access
to the file.
>> You already do. It's in the
>> Is it in there?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> Just I'm the only one that love it.
[laughter]
>> Um Okay. So, going back focus, I think
one thing I have struggled with is
I don't know that we can say that we've
necessarily met the second charge, but
we are able to present what we have done
towards the second charge. So there's no
finalization on it.
>> So then we move into the capital
campaign manager. The charge was for TCC
to retain and work with a capital
campaign manager. Period. Period. Based
Well, this one all needs to be changed.
Based on the pre-planning document,
potential next steps include conducting
a feasibility study, engaging with a
campaign manager, or both.
TCC is presenting this information back
to the board for review alongside
current town initiatives to determine
the appropriate next steps. Do we feel
that that captures what we're trying to
say in regards to our fundraising
efforts?
>> Are you presenting this to the board
select
>> to the board? A board.
>> Okay. [clears throat]
>> If the public's reading it, what board
you talking about?
>> Great. Good point. My thought I think it
is I think it does a good job at a high
level. Um
I just wonder how much detail how much
detail do we want to get into at all and
then how much detail needs to go on the
slide versus just being presented
verbally.
Great questions.
>> Great thoughts
>> because I think we feel like we're at a
point and maybe you have thoughts on
this where we have these pre- campaign
planning documents, but does it really
make sense to spend money on a capital
campaign manager if we don't know that
any of the aspects are going to move
forward? or do are we just holding on to
the documents and waiting till it is the
right time?
I think it's worthwhile and maybe it's
been a slide but orally to point out
because I think you guys were actually
quite price conscious and you actually
did a lot of work that you you got some
prices that you I wouldn't have driven
in particular people but say you were
looking at about $100,000
um would be gone quickly just planning
for the campaign and that as you learned
more information about the steps and
what it involved you thought that you as
a group could pursue a lot of this or at
least the initial stuff yourself and you
spent your summer developing material.
>> Okay.
>> So, I think it's good to show that
you're um being
approval, you know, and fiscally minded
there. Um, as far as chicken and the
egg, I personally I don't think it's
time to hire a campaign manager until
the decisions made on the next design
>> because you're not going to be able to
get people to contribute if this the
design isn't proceeding,
>> right? Um, so I think
you could certainly say this that you're
holding off on working further on the
fundraising part until my decisions made
on the
>> That's what I was trying to say with the
last sentence to say we're taking this
information back to the select board for
review alongside town initiatives and
and for
>> I almost leave about town initiatives
because that's vague and I think no one
probably know what you're talking about.
Well, what was our way of saying like
>> taking it all into consideration tools
and everything?
>> I'd say refer you along with a
determination of whether an RFP is going
to be released for the next design
rather than just say county initiatives.
Get specific about what it is.
So, how would you say presenting this
information back to the select board for
review alongside
>> the determination
of whether to release an RFP for the
next stage of this All right.
And I do think that that's good call
out, but I think that we would want to
note that on our page before as a
talking point. Well, I was looking back
and if we have phase three in the brief
overview, which is focused on
identifying fiscally responsible options
and plans,
>> but I do think it's a call out
>> on the one that talks about what we did
with our summer.
>> Um, we could make a statement there that
says after doing all of these
initiatives, we found it would cost
upwards of $100,000 to hire a capital
campaign manager. And so we explored
other options and we that is why we
spent the summer.
>> Can you do like you did last time? So
when we're doing the presentation to
have it in notes and so it's not
>> Yeah.
>> Because one of the quotes was 10,000 a
month. So quickly I don't
>> Yeah.
>> Might be more than 100,000.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Anything else anybody wants to say about
fundraising?
Because that's pretty much all we have.
I mean, I'll make this page pretty, of
course, but this was kind of like a I
don't know what to say about this yet.
>> I think you did a great job.
>> Great. Thank you.
>> All right. There's a lot of red
questions for [name] in here. Develop and
release an RFP to further the building
design. And so, we know that the sample
RFP has been received from Herman. And I
believe, are we including that sample
RFP in what we send to the select board?
>> No.
>> Okay.
>> Um because two reasons.
>> Um one is it was nice for [name] to give
us a sample, but I don't think I want to
we're certainly going to make it our own
>> and I don't want other contractors to
have the impression that we let one of
the potential biders write the RFP.
>> So take that take this out all together.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
Um and then because we have to have that
the agenda done by like next Wednesday
that for the this meeting that will not
be ready.
>> Okay.
>> So what do we want to say
to the board about the RFP?
I
>> think you'll say we'll be bringing in a
future meeting.
>> Okay.
>> So
>> um
just be will be presented in a future.
>> Yeah. We'd like this to be included in
our exchange. I guess just
>> no because they're not giving we're just
>> we haven't completed this charge. So
we're just going to give them an update
>> and then make decisions from there. So
it's
>> so not
>> but we have we have to bring that RFP
for approval
>> to the select board before it can be
sent out. So that's what we need to to
do. We need to come back to the select
board with the RFP to be authorized
>> and it could be as soon as
the second meeting in November that it
would be ready to go for them and their
big decision isn't necessarily I think
going to be on whether to release the
RFP. It's going to be once the numbers
correct.
So
>> I know the select board knows what RFP
means like request for proposal but are
we trying to explain this to the late
person? So on focus 4 you could say what
RFP stands for and then abbreviate it
later.
[name], do you think people know what that
means?
>> I think you have a good point. I think
it's Yeah. I actually made more notes on
our
total blanking on what we're calling
this fact sheet. Um the same I said the
same thing here because if this is
something that we're giving out to the
general public they might not know the
RFP.
>> Look at all those crossover
busy over there.
>> So
>> I would change in the blue font at the
blue top.
>> [snorts]
>> The first time it shows up in a
document, you want to spell it out with
the abbreviation in parenthesis.
>> Great. What is this?
>> Rest
for proposal.
>> Was that a sneeze or a laugh?
>> Both. [laughter]
>> Bless you.
>> Thank you. [laughter]
>> So, and I think I I'm don't like that
second sentence. The RFB RFP will be
reviewed at a future date.
>> Presented at a future date.
>> Presented would you say, [name]? Presented
to the select board at a future.
>> Right. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you. Um,
if you think
that it could be ready as early as the
second meeting in November, should we be
presenting this at the second meeting in
November
>> versus the
>> Here's why I think I wouldn't do that.
[clears throat] It's because we already
have um the engineering firm has just
done a review of the transfer station
and the things that should be done to
upgrade or adjust that. They're the
engineering firm's coming on the
[snorts]
second of November. So, I think it would
be too much to have two big
presentations in one night. Um
>> because I wonder after we present this
then we're going to be
we're going to be at a little bit of a
standstill until the RFP.
>> My goal will be to have the RFP ready
for this because the the second meeting
in November, I don't think it's that
much to put on the agenda. Shall we
release the RFP or not?
>> Okay.
>> Because you have already done your
presentation at the first meeting.
>> Okay. Um, and I'm going to be in
Virginia the first meeting in December.
So, I don't really want this to have to
wait till the second meeting in
December. So, my goal is to have it
ready for the second meeting in
November.
>> Okay.
Makes us later.
>> Okay. So, we
>> like I said, I don't think the hard
decision is going to be released.
>> Okay. So, we'll leave it like that for
now. I'll make it pretty and we'll say
more to come.
>> So the charge say the RFP
develop and release the RFP.
>> See this is why we're doing this. Okay.
Period.
[clears throat and laughter]
>> Sorry.
[laughter]
>> Okay. So and then the last one was
engage with community members that we
were to continue to engage with
community members for feedback regarding
the potential project. We continue to
engage with community members regarding
the status of planning.
Uh we said that we were present at the
annual meeting in May. We've updated the
fact sheet. What other things can we
think of that we have done to continue
to engage with the community? I was
trying to remember this year we did not
have a table at the the the meeting we
did it last year
>> meeting
>> if you've got annual capitalized meeting
>> actually we don't want to call that the
annual meeting there couple things
>> this is just notes so I'm going to this
is just notes to get us to think about
so this is not edited yet like what do
we want to say here is kind of my thing
do we like
>> go ahead [name],
>> just if you decide to refer to the May
meeting, you want to either call it the
May town meeting or the May special town
meeting. Our official annual town
meeting is actually November election.
>> I think May Town meet
special versus
>> capital T.
>> No, for what?
>> It's a was a particular meeting, so I
think you probably would
Um, I think we need to change present
because people might read that present.
We should say attended,
don't you think?
>> Sure.
>> Yeah.
>> I didn't have an informationational
table or was that last? No, that was
prior.
>> Town of Toppsum meeting.
>> [name], this is really nit nitpicking.
Sorry. I don't like the way the rest of
that sounds. Town of May town meeting.
>> I don't either.
>> What if we said like the May town of
Toppsum meeting or town of Toppsum May
meeting?
>> I think you leave out Topsum. I mean,
what other
Yeah.
And I think this is one of the things we
talked about, you know, we talked a lot
about this like how do how do we engage
with community members? So, um I think
that the first one that says continues
to engage with community regarding
status of planning were available to the
community,
but I'm not sure actively.
>> You had your meetings recorded online?
>> Yes. So,
>> public agendas. Part of the reason we
left that in there was the way I look at
it is we're always available. Exactly.
And if I have the opportunity to talk to
someone, I'm talking to someone. So
that's still engaging. It may not be a
formal meeting, right? But it's still
talking about it and informing people.
So that's kind of like a constant even
though it's more of an individual basis,
it's still part of what we should be
doing as community
um members, committee members. So that's
why we left it there.
>> I I get I understand that's fine with
me.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, I I'm hold the thought. Yeah, hold
the thought.
>> Go, go, go.
>> No, hold on. I'm coming back.
Oh, that's not
[clears throat]
>> I didn't have to pop out. Is there
anything anyone needs for me before I
go?
>> I think we're good, [name]. Um,
>> we'll just update you afterwards.
>> Thank you. I appreciate that.
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah.
>> And I'll try to finish taking any notes.
>> Appreciate it.
>> All right.
So, I asked u my good friend AI to take
the three bullets and put it into one
statement. TCCCC continues to engage
with the community on the status of
planning, including attending the May
town meeting and keeping the Thompson
Community Center committee timeline fact
sheet updated and available for
visibility.
What else? Do you not like that? Do you
want me to go back to the three bullets?
Um,
status of planning. That's what's
catching.
>> And you could be nitpicking now.
[name], I'm looking at you. I know. Let me
read it. Okay. They don't
>> I would take out on the status of
planning and just say engage with the
community including attending the Mtown
meeting keeping the community center
committee timeline fact sheet updated
and available online for visibility and
maybe say something like you said [name]
about the recording of meetings but that
might be obvious and not need to be
stupid
>> probably it just feels like a really
long sentence
through
attending the May town meeting community
through attending.
What if we said committee members
continue to engage with the community
and
uh
>> well I think the problem is you have
that in the charge and then you're
saying exactly the same thing with the
first several words.
>> Okay.
>> So I think we need to condense that even
more.
um like engagement
continues in the form of attending the
Maytown meeting. Um
>> do we think it looks better
>> like this as the three bullets?
>> Not necessarily. I just I just think
that it needs to be edited.
>> No, I Yeah, that first bullet needs to
go away, right?
>> Yeah.
I don't think it says what we want it to
say. Yeah. What if we said instead of
having TCC every time here we say
>> committee continues to update
>> the committee members
>> no
>> and maintenance of the fact the timeline
fact
>> the hungry
>> a
>> and do we need for visibility at the end
could we just end it at online
>> thank you
>> I'm going back I'm getting back
>> okay [laughter]
>> um Wait a whole pizza.
>> Didn't know they were sex, did they?
[laughter]
[clears throat]
>> Why the TCC continuing update TCC's
committee? You're already doing it.
>> And why you put Senator Committee got
TCC? It should be TCC,
>> right? Well, that's what we actually
call the document. It's called the
Topppsum Community Center Committee
timeline fact sheet. That's what we have
it called. That's what it is on the
SharePoint. That's why or on the
website.
>> How How about if you take out TCC
continues and then just put
continuation? What if we say maintain
the Thompson Community Center committee
timeline fact sheet
>> updates? Doesn't make sense.
>> Updates to the community.
>> Yeah. So just do updates.
You don't need a period after meeting.
>> So we have action action words at the
start
>> two
attended the May.
[laughter]
anything else that you can think of
specifically that we did that we would
want to call out here that we've
>> I think what [name] is saying is valid
that ongoing you know conversations in
the community
>> how do you want to say it
>> just that
ongoing communicate conversations in the
community
>> yeah okay Perfect.
>> I think maybe not that a lot of people
read the paper anymore, but maybe I and
oh uh the website
maybe what what the way we get our
information out is
through the website, updates to the
website and recordings or something like
that. Or my initial thought was what
about the newspaper? Something to think
about moving forward.
What newspaper?
>> The crier.
>> Exactly. Yeah, the crier is probably
gut.
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> Yeah. I think we have to just focus
right now though on exactly what we have
done.
>> Yes. [snorts]
>> Because that's what we're trying to
update and tell them what we have done
so far. So, I think those three things
sum it up for now.
>> Perfect.
>> Why is the bullet on the last one
smaller?
>> Because it's how I copied and pasted it
before.
It'll all be prettied up. [laughter]
>> So,
how about going back one more second?
Three bullets. First one says
attended the main town meeting. The
second one says,
uh, updates to the online Toppson
Community Center committee timeline fact
sheet. You like that better?
>> Yes.
>> Colon available online. Why are we
saying that?
>> Oh, we took that out.
>> Oh.
>> Oh, we're on the wrong slide, maybe.
>> Uh, I'm going to go put it there if we
like the sounds of it. I'm reading you
what it says when I put it through. So,
attended the town meeting, updated the
online Thompson Community Center.
>> Okay, you just said updated, but that
says updates. Attended is prior. Do we
want to match it and say updated?
>> It's on my computer, not on the screen.
>> Okay.
>> So, I'm just reading it out. If we like
it, then I'll put it up there.
>> Yeah.
>> I think I think in this case, you don't
need to say Thompson Community Center
committee. Again, you could use TCC
there because you've already already
used it in the charge.
But that's what the document's called.
>> Okay.
>> That's why that's why I'm doing that. So
the second one would be
>> could we italicize it so that that's
more
>> sure
>> obvious that it's the title rather than
right you know what I mean
>> updates
>> underline or italicize
>> to
the online.
So moving online before
Thompson Community Center committee
timeline faction.
>> Perfection. Sure.
>> Third bullet,
continued community engagement
>> or continued community conversations.
>> I think I like conversations.
>> I like ongoing [clears throat] instead
of continued
personally, but
>> ongoing.
So you like it the way that it is? It's
casual. I like it, too. Okay. I may
suggest that we change the title of our
document here because it's got a line
and it's got parentheses and all of
that.
Just saying.
We don't have fact sheet on here.
What it's called on the website.
>> That's the um and this one I have not
uploaded just to be clear because I felt
like you guys had to accept it here
tonight.
>> We do have some changes. So yeah.
>> Okay.
>> But thank you. Yep.
>> Yep. So we have some changes and then
>> then probably some more. So
>> got it.
>> All right. Are we good with this one?
>> Yes.
>> Great. Next one.
>> So if we're not asking for
recommendations, [name], I'm back to you.
Is this just a This is where we're at.
Questions [clears throat] and answers.
>> Yes. I think it's just where I posted
the answers.
>> This is what we came up with when we
were trying to brainstorm ideas when we
were talking,
>> but we can scrap this whole slide and
just do it Q&A.
>> Well, it's sort of pending items,
I guess, would be a way to
identify this
slide
just to say what what is ending.
and then reward it.
RFP to be released
visibility.
I guess that would maybe bullet the next
one would bullet in
if it's accepted, right?
I don't
>> I don't know. I don't I don't want this
whole slide personally. All right, we
could do
>> I think Yeah, I think I leave it out.
I would leave it out too
>> because [clears throat] so much is in
the air up in the air. So if we do Q&A
>> and you don't want all those decisions
made at once anyway. So the most
important decision is the next one
whether the RFP gets released.
>> Right. We gave this last time but it
does tie in to
what we did as far as number one. Oh
[name], can you go down?
So this is in there. We gave it to the
board last time we met with them. It
does tie in for what we did for our
pre-planning which is highlighted on
option number one there. Do we want to
include it again or because we've
already talked about it, you think take
it up.
>> Did that come from [name]?
>> Yes, we can't use that.
>> No, we showed him once.
>> We used it. We used a different one in
the document we created. You want me to
email that to you?
>> No, that's okay. We'll just delete it.
Well, I think it's an okay. The
information is helpful, I think. But I
think it should be the not [name].
>> Okay.
Anything we forgot? Anything anybody
wants to add?
I think we need to do these changes and
then send it out to everybody and review
it like ASAP so they can see it fixed.
And
>> okay,
>> changes.
So, ideally, we would have written
materials, meaning this or whatever you
want to um by like next Wednesday so we
can go and work.
>> Well, uh I fly to Seattle on Saturday.
I have one more day of work and so I
will work on it on Friday morning. Try
to get it off to everybody and then if
there are more changes after that, I
would leave it to you guys to make any
final edits and then submit it.
>> [name], can you do these changes?
Everybody is on board for the fifth.
>> Yes.
[clears throat]
>> And if for some reason, you know, let's
say you give this and you decide you
want to add a slide to it on next
Friday, we can always supplement it. But
>> okay,
>> I don't think we're going to want to add
a slide. I think
>> definitely not.
>> I think good to know.
>> Yeah, I'll be
>> I guess my point is be locked in stone,
right? But basically,
>> I think that I can fix pretty quickly
even
>> with all the circles and edits and
stuff. Um,
>> do we want to talk them through or is it
pretty?
>> That's pretty straightforward. [snorts]
>> So, if you can send out say Friday
morning or Friday afternoon or what time
Friday do you want to do or do you not
want to do or do you just want to say
Friday?
>> I'm gonna say Friday.
>> Okay. So [name] to send out Friday
>> the updated deck and the updated fact
sheet for everybody to do a final
review.
>> And then
>> if everybody's okay with the fact sheet
just a thumbs up or something and then
[name], can you just forward it to [name]
and she can update it on the site once
we know everybody's in agreement on
this?
>> I mean [laughter]
who's on first?
>> Um just back up for a second. So if you
send that out on Friday, I want to give
the committee a very specific like
review this ASAP
for any other by Wednesday.
>> It needs to be in by Wednesday by Sunday
morning.
>> So by
>> is it PowerPoint?
>> Yeah,
>> I can if there's changes that need to
happen, I can do them for the group if
you need.
>> It's on a shared site, so I'll make sure
you have access to it.
>> Yeah,
>> I'm not allowed.
I said we're editing. He just can't seem
to edit it while he's presenting.
>> So, committee
>> committee review by
um
>> Sunday
>> by Sunday
>> 900 p.m.
[laughter]
>> Sunday night.
>> That way Monday any changes boom boom
boom and it'll be definitely be ready by
Wednesday.
And it would be good actually if we gave
the timeline sheet too.
>> Right. So
>> do you want to
>> happy to make those changes too?
>> That's fine. If you
>> I will I will put it in the I will put
it in the shared space that we're using
and I will forward a link to you so you
can edit it so you have access.
>> Okay. Everybody but [name] can have
access. [laughter]
>> He's done.
building itself.
>> Yes.
>> Uh I don't think cuz [name] and I
started a separate space for all of our
meetings, minutes, and agendas when I
was starting to
Yeah.
>> And we didn't want to bog that down with
edits and stuff like that. So, we put it
in a different space, but I can share it
with everybody.
He called it a 15%
basically figure out site work.
>> You're the one that's going to get the
official
and they could give a better estimate.
>> Okay.
>> The other one.
>> Okay. I'm just writing stuff down so I
can [clears throat] make sure [name]
has it for those minutes.
>> You want to build the building it? Okay.
>> So, I think um
>> so I had that you're going to update it
and then [name] will update the fact sheet
>> and then I'll
okay to [name].
>> I know what that means.
Okay. Are we good with all of that then?
>> Thank you. Um, so I think the only other
thing to do is review.
>> Um, yeah, I just need to back up um to
make a notation that [name] did not make
the meeting.
>> I did talk to him this afternoon.
>> Yeah.
>> He had a concern that he wouldn't get
here because it was the last game of the
season.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I figured it was something
like that. So, um, yeah,
>> but I threatened him if he doesn't show
up tomorrow night for the intro.
Okay. So, yes, I would say that we're
good to review the minutes from
September 28th.
Any changes, comments?
>> None being.
>> None.
>> Any motions to accept the minutes from
the September 28th meeting?
>> Motion to accept.
>> Second.
>> Seconded. All right. Meetings minutes
from September 28th accepted.
Followup action steps. I have [name] to
update um the proposal or or the the
slideshow for the um
slideboard meeting. Uh [name] to update the
fact sheet. And then once all of that is
done, I will do the final okay for [name]
to post and to get it to [name] for or or
to you for the
>> it goes to [name]
>> to [name].
>> She'll be looking.
>> She'll be waiting. So we'll try to get
it to her ASAP.
>> Still trying to find everything else
that she's waiting for.
>> So for the town of Thompson Drive that
we have been dumping this stuff into,
>> you have access.
>> I believe so.
>> Okay. Yeah. I'm gonna send it again. You
want access,
>> please.
>> You want I'm sending that. [laughter]
>> Uh, I sent it I'm gonna send it to you.
>> Thank you,
>> [name]. Do you want access to this
folder?
>> Probably not. [laughter]
>> But thank you.
>> Okay. So, [name], I already sent you a
separate email that's the direct link to
the fact sheet.
>> Okay.
>> I will leave that for you.
>> Okay.
>> And
um Yeah.
and I will work on the presentation.
>> Okay.
>> All right. And I think we had already uh
so I think that's it for action sets
and I think we had already set the date
for our next meeting. Correct.
>> No.
>> No.
>> Because we were going to wait to see on
the select board.
>> Oh, okay.
>> So, it was going to be after the select
board meeting.
>> So, we're not going to set that date
then.
>> We can
We wait for any RFP action. [snorts]
>> What's that? I'm sorry. I don't really
any RFP action
>> because I really don't
know exactly what we would be discussing
besides recapping
thoughts.
>> I I think Mike's point, why don't you
schedule a meeting and then if after the
5th you decide you don't need it, you
can always cancel the video.
>> Yeah. That way we'd have the space on
the books and have it on our schedules
and surprise we don't need it. No, I
don't know.
>> So, what does November look for pe like
for people? [clears throat]
Uh,
wait. We have
>> Yeah.
11.
>> And is that when the town office will be
close?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> So, do we do we want to do it like
>> that that first week, the beginning of
the first week after the 5th?
>> The 9th.
>> The 9th. Back to our Monday.
>> I don't even know what a regular day.
>> Monday was the regular day, but which
one in the month? I don't remember.
>> Here's the advantage. If you met on the
9th or the 10th.
>> Yep. um is I will commit that you will
have the RFP by then so you could look
at it
>> so you could look at it okay in advance
of it getting in the select board's
agenda
>> okay
>> I like that
so um
>> I can do the ninth
>> I can do the ninth I can do either
>> [name] good [name]
>> all right
>> I I am not I'm out of town I'm actually
not going to be here on the 5th either
I'll be out of town that night Okay. Do
you know what [name]'s schedule is?
>> Um
the only thing on the 9th is the bike
head committee and that's over at the
other building.
[clears throat]
[laughter]
>> So this room should be available. I can
book it tomorrow morning.
>> Okay. So November 9th, 5:15.
>> Do we think [name] might be available?
[name] will probably be doing tryyouts at
the middle school that night just
because I have a sense of his schedule
once November kicks in.
>> I escaped from that two meetings. Would
a Tuesday be any better for him?
>> No, those two they do the girls one part
and they do the boys the other part and
I don't know the schedule has been set
specifically yet.
Mon Monday, November 9th at 5:15
upstairs.
>> Actually, I hate to say this, but now
that I think about it,
bike pedestrian committee has come up
with a plan that they want to bring to
the select board and staff's reviewing
it next week and then I have to go back
to them probably with suggested changes.
So, I might have to go to the bike
pedestrian committee meeting that week.
>> So, should we shoot the 10th?
>> So, the 10th would be better for me. The
tent
>> building's empty on the tent.
>> Great. We'll take downstairs.
>> Are you going to have enough time with
the election and everything to get the
RFP done?
>> You like a dead
>> I need a dead blood.
>> You need a dead mark.
[laughter]
>> My blood.
>> I just texted [name] just give her a
heads up.
>> All right. So,
>> 10 to 5 downstairs. downstairs.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
[name], did you have any questions,
comments, or anything before?
>> No, you're going the right pace. I just
worried
this should have happened 10 years ago,
but it's wor.
>> Well, the school is going to be with
that big budget and all.
>> It's going to be a fun time.
>> I've always said when they built the
library, we should have done it. Yes,
>> tomorrow night is the school's they just
informed this a couple days ago. They
got a big presentation on the results of
their facility study tomorrow night.
>> The last one last year was $150 million
this time.
>> Did Did M do complete the traffic study
over by Woodside?
>> Do you know?
>> I don't know.
>> Don't know. I'm just curious.
>> We'll do that tomorrow.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. If there is nothing else, is there
any motion to adjurnn? Motion to
adjurnn.
>> Second.
>> Second.
>> I don't but meeting adjourned. 6:22.
>> I'm texting [name].
>> Okay. I texted [name]. I don't know
what she had going
