2026-10-15 - Finance & Personnel Committee

if a meeting of the finance and personnel committee. I'm holding the Peter goalless share to meet. We choose on her way and will be joining us shortly. We're also joined by Alderman Scott Spiker to my

left. My far left Alderman Charlotte Moore Alderwoman Coggs will be joining virtually joining us shortly as well. Thank you. Also to our stepson, Chris Lee and our legislative liaison Captain Greg

knows. Charlie, good turtles from the comptroller's office is here as well. The only item on our agenda is item number one filed to 6, 0, 0, 0, 1, communication from the mayor relating to the proposed

2027 budget up first today. This is our Department of Public Works Day up. First, the water Department waterworks. Welcome. Budget director called Back. Good Morning Chair and committee members.

Nicole, back director of the Budget Management Division. Great win. Last night, we'll finish off overnight. Go Brewers commissioner across key will be by my side the whole day which test and before

introduce, but we have 6 divisions within the b w we're going to start with the Enterprise Fund. Water Works. And Tyler, Callie Carroll go through those slides. And before we start naked just from the

department has obviously we have 6 different decision units in the Department of Public Works obviously of water, infrastructure Operations, sewer transportation fund. And so I just wanted to put

team. This is not an easy feat. We are very large Department of 2000. Ft says a lot of decisions that have to be made it a lot of difficult ones with a lot of folks that don't sit at this table that

put a lot of work in for numerous months. I just want to just praise them for the job they've done this year and making some difficult decisions, but just want to give them some kudos before we

started. Tyler Cowen Hero, Budget Management Division here today to present the 2027 budget for Milwaukee. Water works starting off with the 27 budget summary. The overall, as you can see, there's a

10% increase across the board of for 17.3 million. I'll go into more details on those numbers in the upcoming slides. Starting off with salaries and positions as you probably heard 100 times, there's

there was some increases across the board to salaries, mostly due to last year's cola and residency increases. So overall, there was a 2.4 million dollar increase to salaries and already 8% increase.

Moving into operating equipment, operating equipment, expenses, reflect the ongoing expansion of lead service line replacement, increasing from 5,000 to 5500. Overall, there's a 11% increase in

operating in 20% and equipment. The breakdown for those increases are below. There's about 6 and a half million due to infrastructure services. 1.9 related to professional services. 1.2 to

construction supplies just a little under million just to the property insurance equipment also shows that there's going to be some replacements to some utility vehicles and some replacing some

equipment at the plants. Moving on to special funds. How much of a change here from 2026. Just a small reduction in the contingency fund for debt service. Moving on to budget by service. Just 2 give

the department as much time as possible. I'm going to kind of just fly through this as you can see the breakdown of their budget is Providing Inc person and call customer service, maintaining the

water meters, maintaining the water distribution system operating the treatment plants, providing water quality. Providing internal engineer services and providing administrative and operational

support. Moving on to revenues. Revenues are also increasing slightly about 5% or 11.8 million dollars. Most of that change there can be seen in the. Operating that category. There. And then lastly,

capital expenses. So the capital program continues. Major investment in the city's water infrastructure. The breakdown below shows that there's going to be continue 14 miles of distribution, main

replacement said about 1.9 miles per my a 1.9 million dollars per mile. Is also money for planned improvements, including for the Linwood filter bed. We have a also the Linwood Water Quality Lab or

Tater Laboratory operates the flow meter replacement and the Howard And lastly pumping and storage facility projects. Florist pumping station upgrades North Pointe pumping station Val of rehab and

then the tunnel and storage facility. Inspection. And with that, I'd like to hand off the Morning Patrick Poly Waterworks Superintendent Tyler told me to work through slides in 4 minutes. I told him

there's no way that's updates here, but I'll go quickly as well. Save time for questions. The court services, you're all very familiar with our core services. We do have 6 full sections within the

utility or planned their 7 services here because but our customer service and meter services. But wait multi units in our engineering section. Our plant section operates the 2 treatment plans and the

distribution system, our distribution. Section is responsible for maintaining all of the facilities are in the public right of way. Waterman Services hydrants vows other apartment says customer

service located in the nba in 4th floor. Water quality is also stationed at our plants. We have labs treatment plants. And so they are continuously monitoring the water treatment process and the water

quality throughout the distribution system collecting hundreds of samples on a monthly basis and then meter services. It's located on the northwest side near dpw Field headquarters and they're

responsible for maintaining and installing and exchanging all of the 160,000 plus water meters that are in our system. So service highlights. You can see that. Most importantly, percentage of days in

full compliance with safe Drinking Water Act 100%. That has. Has traditionally been the case and we intend for it to be the case. Moving forward, our rate of return, you will notice is increasing

significantly in 2027. That is because of the conventional Rick case that we're engaged in. And I have more information on that later in the slide, you can see that. Within the 7 county metro area is

going up due to that rate case as well. Breaks. We've experienced more main breaks the last 2 years. And we have of water main replaced. That is a public service commission requirement that we replace

14 miles a year. We did not accomplish that in 2025, we are struggling, I guess is the best word. And it's not just we are struggling. We are working very hard to meet 14 miles this year as well. But

it's it's going to be very close where we'll be working late into the year, whether allowing lead service lines replaced. We. Replace 3,329 last year, which is by far the most. We are on pace for

5,000 this year. We have a little less than 1000 remaining hydrants maintaining flush that he's Wisconsin dnr hydrant used to be maintained, flushed operated every other year. So we have about 20,000

hydrants in the system. So the goal is 10,000 and then the water meters installed. We try to maintain a cycle of less than 20 years replacement for water meters. So major updates. I mentioned the lead

service line replacement. This is as of SEPTEMBER 30th 3,982 completed with 1000 to go. We are averaging about 100 a week which puts us right up to 5,000. Hopefully a little more than 5,000 we need as

we do every winter, it seems we need the winter to be delayed a little and cooperate so we can work through DECEMBER. But all the contracts are in place. We have the inventory of locations to assigned

to contractors and the contractors have done a better job this year of completing the work in a more uniform manner throughout the throughout the year. The last 2 years as we are ramping up, there was

a lot of some of the water main replacement program. A lot of work being conducted in NOVEMBER and DECEMBER. And this mentioned the conventional rate case we have received authorization in JULY of

2025 and made applications SEPTEMBER, anticipating that the rate case would take less than a year and in consultation with the Public Service commission, they also anticipated it would take less than

a year. It has not taken less than a year. We only received the final schedule. A couple of weeks ago. And we are we engaged in a very long back and forth the process of making data requests. A number

of topics related to our financials related to lead service line replacement related to water main replacement related and non-revenue water our late fee billing process. It was a little much longer

back and forth process than we anticipated. I think that the psc anticipated. So that was just completed a little over a month ago. And then they issued the final schedule, which involves some written

testimony, written testimony process that will take us most of NOVEMBER and DECEMBER. They're anticipating a final decision. JANUARY early FEBRUARY, which means the rate increase would take effect

likely APRIL. 1st, I don't think we would be able to make it by MARCH. 1st. Howard Filter, better remediation project. This has been an ongoing project for. 2 years. We had 3 filter bed under dream

failures. To have so effectively at 16 filter beds at Howard. But we have. Experience 3 filter but and urbane train failures and determined that we needed to be replaced all of the year. 100 rain and

the filter media and had been in service sense. Middle mid-nineties post Cryptosporidium was one the completely remediated. So we've been working on that for over 2 years. 2 beds are in service and

performing very, very well. We are anticipating 2 more will be in service by early next year. And then we are hopeful that with all the lessons we learned through the first 2 years that the last 4

bats go much, much quicker and we can complete the rest of them by the end of 2027. And then you notice in the capital budget. Requesting authorization to move forward with the Linwood filter, bad

remediation project sometime completed division, demographics. You can see that breakdown and the 70 a little over 72% of our staff are residents of Milwaukee. Our vacancy. I wouldn't put this on a

slider vacancy rate is right around 11%, much, much better than it had been. And 72%. Residents. You'll see a common thread with dpw of 70 to 80% are folks live within the cne 20 sections which we're

proud of that folks are not moving away but to live you very much for that. Before I move it around for questions and all start on the far left. But I did want to ask about capital costs. So

waterworks has expanded and customers, some neighbors to our West. And is it fair to say that those new customers have paid and are paying for all of the capital needs associated with delivering water

up the Hill to walk a shot. Capital needs associated with providing them water. Yes, in theory, the Public Service Commission as part of the rate case, doesn't. And we assist. Assists us with provoked

performing the evaluation. But all of the assets throughout our system are retail customer related for wholesale customer related and then the value of those assets and the cost to maintain those

assets, which we keep track of Adam mind daily basis when we use is then split out. For the cost of service study is what it's called. So. The cost of service to provide water to the wholesale.

Customers is determined by the psc in consultation with us and then their their rates are set at a level that allows us to recover that cost to service. So just for for the public at home of Vincent

concerns are spending a look. Milwaukee spending so much on infrastructure to deliver water to our neighbors. I don't want my municipal my my municipal fear, my water bill to help subsidize the cost

of delivering water to our neighbors. Can we is it? Is it clear from the multiple audits from the Public Service commission that of our current Milwaukee resident rate payers are not subsidizing the

cost to expand service out to the suburbs. Yes, it is. It is the guy, our whole sale customers. Make up about. 25 believe it's about 25% of our revenue comes from those wholesale customers. So. There

is confidence that the analysis is very and dot com. There is confidence that those homes sell customers are paying 2. Obtain. The service. Now are we? I guess just to be clear, we don't set that

rate. The public service commission sets that rate. They use data that they acquired from Austin. System with interpreting and evaluate that data. But they then establish the rate for the wholesale

customers. So we don't not have a lot of control to say that they're also paying their fair share to maintain current infrastructure like the beds that have to be replaced because of the higher use in

the higher delivery needs for the department. We're not subsidizing anything. They're actually helping us with our capital long-term capital costs that Milwaukee repairs would have to pay any way to

replace. That's that is correct. That is absolutely correct. Yes, they are. Those treatment plants are pro are part of the infrastructure that provides the water too. The wholesale customers they are

sharing and those costs. And if we didn't have those wholesale customers, then almost lucky ratepayers would have to share that cost. Correct? And our slice of the pie would be much bigger, correct?

All right. I appreciate that. For my first question. Wrapped up now and bring it over to Alderwoman more. Thank you. Thank you so much, MISTER Chair. Good to see you, on the about shout out because I

you know, I love working with our many departments. We didn't get to this and we didn't get a chance to come see you as far turns. We saw you all last summer, but we didn't get a chance this year to

visit the water plant. That's too bad. Yes, well, we'll put it on the docket for next summer was one of the young people's out most coveted visit if they loved it, absolutely loved it. Just a few.

Just a few quick questions. Just in regards to probably start off with. I know the flooding that happened back in APRIL of 2026. Lots of calls that came in. It was probably record number of calls that

came in in regards to water. That was backed up been, you know, folks, basement, you know, over 1000 calls that came in in regards to, you know, ponding in a different places all over the city. Talk

to me a little bit about and I know yesterday we had this conversation as well where some of the elders were talk talking about just different areas of the city flooding. And we know that's an issue

talk to us a little bit about. How do you anticipate mitigating those issues moving forward? So we will save that for the sewer department because that is what deals with the flooding issues. So water

is providing fresh water too citizens of southeast. It's different sections. So we'll go through water right now. Sewer. We can start addressing some of those issues because So maybe this question is

probably should've read it. What would be the solution to sewer? That will be still Correct? Okay. Yeah. Think of this group is you're getting fresh water. This is what it This is what comes to. Well,

there's a water main break the media back off of that. So for water main breaks to our postal customers, specifically some suburban customers. We still have to maintain that water main break in and

fix there diligent accounting to make sure that when a water breaks, we dig up the street or contractor digs up the street. We put in a temporary patch. If we can't get the street from right away. And

then a city crew comes back later, dpw streets to put it in for final restoration for the asphalt in the curb and Lyft Inc. And what people seeing what I've gotten some calls on in the past is we see

a city of Milwaukee crew. Fixing green Fields, Street. Is greenfield paying for that? Why or It's not a water works through but it's a city walk. The streets department. A crew. Are we getting

reimbursed for all those needs? Well, so so you're referring to retail customers, which is city of Greenfield, City of Saint City of Hale's Village of Hale's. Cornell, I some of the municipalities are

also now there's 2 separate of yeah, it's ok. We have our they pay a higher. Water rate than our city of Milwaukee customers. And I forget offhand. I want to say it's approximately 25% higher, but

they do pay as a retail customer and were responsible for maintaining. Facilities. They pay a slightly higher rate than the urban customers. So all those costs of restoration are being absorbed by the

water utility. And so when. Street maintenance is deployed. And I think they were they are still doing some restoration in Greenfield, but they're not doing any restoration. And Saint Francis or Hales

Corners. Because of the fact that there's a backlog in the city of Milwaukee and they would prefer to Beaver starring. But when they're deployed, those costs are accrued to the waterworks. We receive.

Waterworks receives an in or position in Boise for street maintenance costs and then those same crews are the ones that would otherwise be doing the same work in the city of Milwaukee or filling

potholes. Correct. By having the Milwaukee streets. Crews in the suburbs fix this restoring water problems, its reducing Milwaukee is capacity to fix our own roads. Yeah, I think that's what you

heard. And a superintendent police's we've started to pull back and that makes we don't do in his car as you do. We don't do that. And Saint more. So that's part of our changes. We kind of move

forward is do we want our folks to continue to do these patches for retail customers? So it's very valuable for the water utility itself because they are an extension of us like a whole sale customer.

But those are strategic things that we've been working on to try to just pull our folks back just because of the issue should contractors? Do the work Corps? Corners doing that themselves. That's

contractors. And it's this is a different. It's complicated because waterworks far preferred these dpw street maintenance because they're far less costly than direct private contractor to restore

cars, payment cuts. Yes. When you look at the water utility itself, the Water Utilities Enterprise Fund so than the Enterprise Fund will pay basically dpw infrastructure becomes the contractor and

it's about half the cost for the utility to actually get repaired by us that it's going to contract. What would it be cheaper to use us because we are have less labor costs in overhead costs like a

contractor. Does. But the opportunity cost of having a city crew do. That means that we're fixing fewer of the problems in our own there's that. Yes, but overall some with higher costs, using

contractors for these retail customers. Costs caps worn by the municipality by those customers. Or is that just? Part of the cost of maintaining for retail customer that the water where that water

works is absorbing. So are we paying more to not have our people do it? Ourselves in the foot? Well, I think what think it using a contractor is more expensive. Yes, this is why I think when the

superintendent said we charge the retail customer a higher rate to offset those costs, now we can get into the details down to the penny of what that comes into its coming out of our bottom line,

correct. I mean, it's revenue coming in from the retail customers in that we're paying from a nuts and that so it should be pause those final restorations until our crews are available, like we're

doing for the city of Milwaukee. Those those repairs would wait longer and not cost the bottom line for water works. Instead, the suburbs are getting new streets and final restoration is wild.

Milwaukee's, so waiting for for the work to be done. They're not getting it done any faster than we are. We're not prioritizing the suburbs over, but we're not going to work with contracting it out.

That's getting done before are potholes get fixed? Before our own restorations and the city of Milwaukee are getting attended to because we're not using contractors in Milwaukee. No, we're trying to

get our staff to take care of the stuff we have internally. MARCH air on this point. Police link is there any possibility of the utility paying for staffing of dpw in terms of additional positions

with that be valid of the Enterprise Fund because I'm kind of thinking of of the comeback idea with the sewer maintenance fund money going towards forestry. I guess the utility is. As it were paying

Elsa's point about staffing being in different places? Would that be possible? For the waterworks to basically pay for dpw staff, which does restoration work purely on water works in private in

minutes. It's a similar mechanism but an enterprise fund with the Public Service Commission regulated fees, little different than a user charge like a storm, water fees. So pay, you could have water

works. Employees do the work. But then the water works employees and they you know it. So I think we have to reimburse them for actual work done. Mean effectively, that's what word doing. Now. We are

reimbursing street maintenance for all costs associated with water restoration, right? I'm trying to figure out if there's enough work being done on water works projects for restoration that it could

end up with extra positions and dpw to vote. Yeah, I think we can look at that. I think it's interesting. A great now. The utility versus street maintenance or ask the question to be clear is that

you're asking, can the water pay for more positions to basically address the backlog? Yeah, as we kinda before address the concern which that chair pointed out, which is a fair one, him. But then it

also be logistics of. If you do for the rotation, something that I don't know something to explore? But effectively, that's basically Patrick said, you know, we're we're paying for the work done and

that we're paying for sellers infringes of treatments work while they're doing water works project to the one that you now what physicians? Is there enough work being done on waterworks restoration?

Only that we could have left. He's devoted to that entirely. And then. That supplement the ftc's we have for everything will look dedicated. I don't know. I understand you're saying, well, we'll look

into that for sure. MISTER Chair on that point and pass it back to no, thank you so much. I'm just in reference to that art, when we talk about, you know, vacancies they've gone down. But these are

sort of like specialized positions. I'm I'm assuming. So if we're talking about increasing Ft, ease can we find folks with the talent to be able to do this type of work that we're referencing. So

you're talking about if we have to increase for street repairs is increasing the talent base for street maintenance. So the challenge is there. I mean, we've been continually filling these positions

and so it really just comes down to numbers, a number of crews that we would have to add. So, but yes, we can recruit the to to restoration. This is your cement finishers. Your infrastructure,

infrastructure, repair workers. Those are the ones who do this type of work. Okay. Excellent And going back on the vacancy. How have you been getting these positions filled again? More specialized and

and you would think, but you know, how is the work? You know, what has been the work being done to get the positions filled? I would say that our recruitment, its overall have been far more robust

than they were previously. We have 2 positions that we are struggling. One we're struggling mightily to to fill industrial machine repair, which is our mechanics who work at the plant, said he's a

very specialized position and they're very they're in short supply and the gap in the market, something and the other one that we're we also struggle with is engineering technician, which is primarily

performing field during a construction project. What are other recruitment have been very robust. We have been able to find very strong candidates. We have we still have a lot of I would say turn in

our biggest area and distribution where we have people coming and going into very challenging job, especially in the winter. Yeah, I'm so and and we try forced to do. Really develop our training

program. So we are now bringing aboard people who have no previous underground construction experience and training them to work in the field on our facilities. So it's been it's been we wish our

vacancy rate is a little lower than 10%, but it's so much better than it was 3 years ago. Yeah, I would say from a department wide and 2023, the department had 1756 employees which we had a vacancy

rate which is extremely high today. We have The department has gained 180 positions That's and that's water operations, infrastructure. And so as a group, they have done a good job of. Obviously the

market study said help out. So if you pay people properly compare to neighboring communities, that has been a big plus. What are folks have also been going to a lot of job basically promoting

ourselves, telling our story more, which is getting more exposure to the public. So people are more interested. And so the candidate pool has increased. So part of the candidate pool and that

knowledge base increasing the quality of employee has been there. So the turnovers less, which is helping them stay longer, although I will tell you that right now we have over 50%, the department

that has less than 10 years of experience. And so that also is a challenge to filling spots as one. The talent base and knowledge to do the job is the second superintendent said we're investing now in

a lot of training because just because of the warm by doesn't mean, knowledge is a remarkably So the public and we heard this from Dr that one of the toughest vacancies to fill as the industry

mechanic has there and the department has had a broad husband had brought success, expanding or introducing apprenticeship programs for various other positions that are difficult to fill. Has there

been conversation atc or will? We take a step that were to industry mechanics that we have come from. The pope's them from the private sector. Do they come up through schooling? Most recently we have

that come from the private sector. We do have some sick. We have some success stories in the joined us in other distribution as a repair worker meter services. As a meter technician and have some

inclination because and the industry machine repair hasn't the title series. So it goes from one to 5. So there's an entry level all the way up to effectively a journey journeyman machine repair

person. We have had some success with bringing people in the entry level and scaling them up. 2 pretty far along that passed. We have found rarely we find people housing industry who are willing to

come join us. But and we we had a partnership with employ Milwaukee that atc where we had some internship. Interns placed and our plants and they were allowed to attend classes. I mean, to see to try

to gain some of the skills necessary we had this atc, education or and so we education every tcm 80's. It was a specific cohort of classes that we selected in consultation with them. I am atc that we

thought would best translate to success at that machine repair. We MAY have had one or 2 people that went through those classes and then stayed with us. But we still have. To get staff are 21 and we

have increasing the tuition reimbursement rate for this particular position? Help with recruiting or help develop skills from others already in the department that want to move in. Or are we are we is

the department able to fully pay for the skill set and the education staff, these people. We have. I guess that's what where I was going to go. I don't know if tuition reimbursement increasing

certainly wouldn't hurt. But when we've seen in need with staff to go to a particular class, we have sent time on work time and paid for They get paid to go to school. If the yes, to learn have fun?

And that's what it And we have been recruiting for 3 years. And as I said, we've been recruiting it off 5 levels throughout that period we started. We thought we'd hire people at the bank, turn it

into a career for them. And we had limited success so that the current went for recruiting at the 3, 4, 5, level and still not getting a lot of interest. One recognize all the macaques Thank you. A

little more. I just wanted to end with. Laterals. I know that we're about 80 4%. I think I think that's the look ad 84 for that. I think it's 80 for the Syria this year, 80%, which is against still

astonishing feat. Where do we think will land by the end of the year? 5,000 we are faced with Yeah. Wow. Take a look at the target that I think that's where the superintendent mentioned before is

we've It's probably over 4,000 right now because this was at the end of SEPTEMBER. Wow. And so the goal, I mean, this has been a huge feat for the water utility I we used to do 1000. That was the

goal. Before we start the prayers station program to get to. 2500 was a huge jump to go to 3500 with huge. And so the goal, the utility to fold basically federal regulations is we're gonna have to do

5500 year all the way until 2037. And so I give a lot of kudos to not only Super 10 appalling, but a lot of staff to get this up and running and it it's going well right now. But it's a lot of impact

to the community. So when there's will 5,000 cuts impact. Yes, but there's been a lot of cost savings related to the privatization program as well because we're not throwing contractors all over the

city, but the concentrated one neighborhood in the moving of nervousness probably 3 years talking about it's going in the definitely want to share congratulations on that. That's a definitely a huge,

a feat to accomplish. So excellent. Thank you, MISTER Chair. I'll pass it. All right. Thank you all. Do more. Cold inspector. Thank you, MR. Chair. So about the repair costs projected. I know we're

not done with that it is anticipated might be the increase. In water charges. It's. Cute, right? It's very large. So like 30%. I think the overall increase in revenue needed is. Between 27 and 28. But

that 30% increase for the average residential customer to single family home residential. It's likely to see north of 30% increase in their water. And that's yeah. And that's 22 to translate to about

$22 a quarter. Yeah, yes. The one thing we do want to be clear with this because this is really confusing. We want to make sure that we're saying that what you're asking all the monies. So that's $20

a quarter because when people see the municipal bill, which is not their water bill, there's a bunch of other charges on there. And so the only one we're targeting is actually the lowest amount there.

So it's not as hugely impactful cause. I think people nervous when you say 30% and they see a bill. Yeah, it's not their municipal service. Bill because that goes up 30% but a specific portion of it.

But still, you're looking at 90 bucks. The year increase is anything going to be done to message out this increase before it happens before people start bringing APRIL or whenever this happens, we are

having conversations. There will be it's not publicly noticed yet, but there will be a public. Meeting that the psc holds in coordination with us in early DECEMBER. We are debating and but leaning

toward issuing a press release associated with that to try to be very transparent about why this is occurring and what the impacts are so that there is. And potentially less confusion about the

process and when this commissioner crushed his point about the fact that it's waters, not a decision of the council or the mayor. This is pfc. Deciding what the utility. Given its needs and given its

costs. Okay. Yeah. Just I would encourage usta message message out so we don't have to message it out, especially when we have no control over with respect to contractors. I Superintendent Poly. I

think it was you or maybe it was. The commissioner said the timing is a little better. This year. Not everybody is doing everything so late in the year. We had a couple of years ago where people were

doing it deep into DECEMBER and JANUARY so I I have been getting more way more calls than usual about water main projects this year and certain parts. My district, the 20th and college southern

locations, location very near where I'm gonna have a town sure that you're able to join me at the town hall. Can we say anything about what we do with respect to contractors, both ensuring their

communication logging the complaints we get to see. Is there any thing other than just the supervisors feel of how good the contractors doing. Is there anything more logistically? We're not

logistically systematic about how we log those complaints and whether we see. A is, you know, above what we would expect in terms of complaints and how do we follow up to ensure communication? I know

I think fares from your office has been very communicative when I've reached out to him, you have been as China's low, but what can we do to hold our contractors accountable for doing the work in a

timely way and communicating with constituents, especially so that they're not some caught unawares. And Ben, what are the penalties if they don't do it? And my reference to more uniformity and were

completed was primarily to the lead service line replacements. Those have been the water main replacement, as you are, an older member gallons are where have not been done uniformly or I would say

efficiently and a number of cases. And there's a lot to unpack with that question. We have. We have obviously some sticks. We have the ability. They're are working days to sign 2 contracts. They're

working days assigned to each particular project. Big contractors supposed to work from start to finish. As you know, there are periods where no work can be done when the pipe is being pressure tested

to ensure it doesn't The word is escaping mean chlorinated, I guess is the word is not the right word but close enough that is there any communication done when that happens? Because what happens is

people call and say, hey, nobody's around and they say, well, the water is being tested. Oh, I wish somebody would've told me that. Is there a way to communicate their have the contractor communicate

that probably we should do. Probably is the wrong word. We should be doing better. Job of first communicating during the prop during the project. That particular part of it. We send the notice.

Industry or the project starting that kind of lays out that they MAY see. But I in a lot of instances that notices sent too far ahead of projects started. And if even if people read it. They forget

necessarily what was gonna happen because I don't see anything going on right in with a week or 2. And I think you're you're also where we've had a number of instance, and this is. Unfortunately

because of contractor installation. But that's where the pipe hasn't passed the safe weeks too. The process because the pipe needs to be re chlorinated. We sampled and then rescheduled for. The

connection to the system. And then all the river goes pointed out earlier in the year that delay between completion of piping. Also gotten to be far too long where the project is sitting. So there's 2

when you get 5 simple as that, something also where there's a touch point just looking for more touch points with the constituency. It isn't right now. The touch point, Ms Meehan, they call angry,

wondering what's happened. I have to ask you guys what's happening and then I community that's a very inefficient way to do it. And only a fraction of people we're really mad about it are calling for

it because it's impacting everybody. I realize we can't have the contractors can be on speed dial with all the residents. But are there other ways to communicate with them more effectively? Closer to

its time when this stuff happens so that they're not just kept in the dark because I think there would be some grace. If people just knew what to expect and that this was coming up. I agree. And I

think potentially the notice was mailed to every one we probably should hand deliver a second copy of that because we do provide. Notice of construction start with and I think a week of the

construction starting fights so we can hand deliver a second notice. We there is contact information on that. Some people are perfectly comfortable reaching out to us. Some people. Frustrated they

are. They're more comfortable reaching out to the elders is so way that they could because it's not 1982 anymore as their way we could put a qr code on citizen sign up you. Market where you would

think residents, you know, might want some sort of e-mail notification or qr code they could get they could for a public facing project updates. We get the e-mails once a week right? But the emails

have 3 Status Inc started. Nearing completion completed. Mean, it's great to have that reminder that the projects going on, but it's not helpful to give us a real life update on where the project is.

But for the constituents, if there's something that they could have in the notice that lets them sign-ups because not everybody. Some MAY just be a will what they can when they can. But others would

like some sort of. Greater touch and maybe putting something on that notice for them to sign up for that greater touch would be guys, are tensions. Use a qr code to connect them receive weekly. We

also post on the website so weekend and it's I don't know. That's easy road convenient for people to navigate their by just going project to and certainly those updates we can. We can put more

granular information on them. I think it's a matter of the constituents knowing how to get those updates. And if there's something on the notice that says this is happening, especially if you're going

out a second time closer to when you're actually doing the work is actually being done and out something that has the information, ok, this is how you can keep abreast of of changes. I think they

would appreciate that. At least the folks who are calling in and want that level of. And when something bad happens, it seems like everybody that does want additional delays like why is the sitting

reasons why it's not like because we don't want to finish a project. But just like we had said, there's issues that we have to go back as long as they know it might be some of that lot of work in

explaining all this to everyone. So. All right, moving right along I saw that old rule in Tibet ravaged join us. Virtually. It's not available right now. So I'll pass it further to Alderwoman Cox.

Thank you. MISTER Chair. How do you want to ensure that when? Water works, projects aren't to 9 and the neighborhood that contractor and or staff that has done the And one finished it and 2, like

taking all of their equipment and their signage and everything with them. That's a conversation. So there's a lot of aspects to that when it comes to water main replacement projects. Lead service line

replacement projects. We have inspection staff that are on site. Dirt throughout the project and in conversation with other member concern up earlier this year related Waterman projects. We are we

should be having an inspector go back to that project. A week after less than 2 weeks after and make sure that after the pavement restored that the for lack of a better word punch list items are room

are taken care of witches, long restoration. If there needs to be any cleanup are sweeping removing the barricades, removing any signs, getting the no parking signs removed that should be occurring on

water. Main replacements projects as part of the process. A similar plea lead service line replacement projects with the private contractor. The contractors responsible for cleaning up that site and

removing Annie of the signage or traffic control. And those are much shorter duration projects. Obviously, although we're working in neighborhoods now. So there's a tendency for to be a lot of big

footprint for those contractors. I think that the locations that have been the most challenging for us, unfortunately, are locations where water works is performing the work either main break. We do

some service replacements. We developed replacement and we have not. We haven't taken down a process. 2, we turn to those locations and make sure that they're being attended to. And the other thing is

we have a unfortunately we have a backlog of hydrant repairs that are necessary. And so sometimes it gets hit and we don't get to the repair for many months and we go out and mark that location with a

barricade. We're a cone to make everybody aware and it sits in. It gets disturbed and gets moved and it looks like nobody's paying any attention to it. And so we have started to deploy people to go

back out to open work order locations and make sure that whatever equipment we placed out there is still where it should be and doing what it means to be doing. But there's. There's a lot to that

question. Jen. But we are where we get. I mean, I get can I don't if I get all the concerns that come in related to material is not being picked up for cleaned up. So it sounds like for the work order

piece. You have that set earlier. The inspectors is a part of their committee and make sure to staff has done How do you make sure it one of the positions were had staffing challenges. So we have. In

order to get the 14 miles of Waterman replaced. We have nearly 100 locations of water main replacement projects ongoing. And we are until recently were short. 5 engineering technicians. I think we

just made too hires. It's something that we we need to follow up on. It's it's something that we have to put on our calendar list to have the and the inspector returned out to the site. Within 2 weeks

of it being restored and make a list of everything that they see and share it with the contractor and then instruct the contractor to remedy the situation. So when does that happen? Joking. I'm gonna

tell you like public works before. Not just but also for other dpw Project. To your attention. Several months You yourself comes to you when this when this has happened. And I know I've had some

issues, I'm in my own district over time. With this. So I guess the you just suggested as a remedy actually going to go into place. Well, I will go back and I can certainly circle back to this. But I

will return and talk to services unit manager and confirm that it's occurring replacement projects. As I said, and our footprint is We have 1000 internal locations that we're at any given year. We're

at 5,000 lead service line locations. And as I said, we're at 100 different water main replacement location. So the water main replacement is the most straightforward to solve other than the staffing

issues because we are monitoring and making payment on those projects. And there are 95 of them, but their long-term and they're in in specific locations to lead service line replacement projects. We

having owners repping Gage who has their own inspections staffing that. Tries to make sure that they are monitoring the cleanup of those sites. And quite honestly, I don't and I don't know that I see

all of them. I'm sure I'm not saying all of them. The concerns, but it seems to me that was icy are related to their water 100 question projects are our internal activities, which is something that

we've talked about internally, that we have some staff, unfortunately who were on light duty. They can be assigned to go to these locations and a check to make sure that that things are cleaned up.

Occasion, pardon my. Had a situation in my district Pictures, I got all these things are out here on the street. Good neighbor. While it was still out down the street. Handle months later, I get a

text message with a picture from a scientific to it. Out there. So then I have a And the townies it will you now is because it's a lot of words they were waiting on something we didn't want to let you

know, I can send somebody out there if you want, but honestly, Ottawa me, this happens all the time with water, words. They do this all the time. I don't think you should ever become acceptable as a

standard of doing business. So leave neighborhoods. I'm in a way. Wework looking as if it's and hand or barricades and stuff in neighborhoods that should never become acceptable. Mission never become

the standard. And so I'm just lifting it up. As the issue. Because I do think at least we We just have to make it a priority. So I just I do agree. And I think working on q a qc related to

construction it will be a priority in 2027. And so I think this story you heard is it is coming because we'll have street minutes, folks that will take care of their kids in a regular basis, but they

won't pull it from a particular project unless they know there's an issue because obviously they want to create a safety hazard. And so part of it is going to be building the communication line

between the 2 different sections as well, which will help with some of this. So if it's just a quick, can this be picked up or not to? They can grab it without being concerned for the safety issue. It

yes, we've talked a lot internally just like, uh, you see in general and then how do we titan the boot straps and a lot of that. And so we will continue to look at ways. And if their suggestions were

more than willing to take them, it's just clean up in his 2 things with that is 2 things. One is he's just got to get out. But who is is it and on just leave me all is like a Macon mess around Allen,

which I think could be a test of the proper process. Is are put into are there. I know when a project comes up, they're often a no parking sign there off team. Other types of signs that go up and I'm

now in a larger. Construction road projects. We have started putting the huge signs that say sponsored by the mayor and members honor for the area and on and on. How given some thought to win. It's

water main. There be some more descriptive or water main work being done and maybe you can have a qr code on the air as well. Some people you more somebody didn't open the latter or when they knocked

on doors on, didn't answer somewhere around the block or in the neighborhood. There are signs that clearly say what's going on and there is a way to access more information if they if we've started

this kind of program a few years ago and we've identified as long-term projects. We've been doing that for there for like 2 days like we will never do for high make today. So just makes sense to

reduce a sign but longer projects or and I can talk with Patrick later on, especially if you're in a neighborhood for a look at the privatization program, it might. It might be in your block. We could

be there for 3 days, but there I think that's something we can explore. Just to educate people. So as we use, that seems like the qr code is the. Just inform people. I think that's what we can

explore. For the. We made, our decision is made to shut off water. What are the criteria under which? A specific property. For a specific property for nonpayment. What are all of the conditions under

which you have a right you shut off water for non payment? We have if we are unable to access the building to exchange of water meters, that is we are unable to obtain a read. That water meter or the

water meter is. Past its useful life. We do send water service disconnection notices to. The property, alerting them that they have. And it's a long process. There's multiple notices signed prior to

actually telling them that unless you got us into access our water meter next, change it. We are going to be turning the water off on this date. Is there any other instance? Well, I think there's a

water and let's see if there's a water main break. Obviously, there be a water softener does have resiliency within a system. So it's not like we can't produce. But it's a different year. Residents

are something you might be impacted for a short period time which is communicated, but for most, but we don't shut off water individuals shut offs. If there's a service leak that is severe. That is on

the. Privates. So if it's severe and it's on that it's severe and it's on them part owned by the utility. We send our crews out to replace that. It's severe and it's on the private side. We do turn

their water off, but we very much trying to them get them an alternate source of water from either a neighbor or preferably a fire hydrant. As through a hose which is not okay. Potable water source.

But it does allow the residents to remain in the building. The I think part of the reason I'm struggling as I don't know how many instances there are where we have shot off water. I suspect you do.

Legal ways that you shop on it. On and have an ability of the building took the Knesset Herman's. It's not if there is a risk that the leaving the water on will result in a frozen service and built

property damage. We have Ben shutting off water services. And habitability specifically. I can think of one instance where that has. Has come up. Commissioner, you said the ms so foreign and

habitability, the annex will have to determine that it sometimes. Yeah, I think this comes into a lot of, you know, when there's an uninhabited building or there's an issue structurally they'd have to

face the shock, you the utility we would. They would notify us if a particular situation happened and go under that Rome, which is not frequent by any means. But, you know, if they're determined like,

hey, this is unsafe or something that we don't instantly turned out, that they would contact us and we would. Yes. So somewhere like if we do the Rays, do anything with the raising the picture. That's

clear before company set out. Have we done this year? How many shut offs? I will have to return to if you Pierre, and then if you could put the reasons why. Just to be clear about. And a constituent

who we thought was mine but ended up about this issue in my office to receive an email from you. And habitability was the reason that it was shut off in further conversations with ems. There was no

ordinance. There was no plaque Harding. There was no communication to your office So later, find out whether my But know, water is essential and And what we cut water off 4 or not. So I just wanted to

know situation? And I had a whole lot of other complications or is is something that does happen. Because I just think flatter the important and we shouldn't just be kind talk about. The more we give

want to make sure. So that's where that line of questioning. The commissioner the and that's because like I said, I thought it was my district. So he spent hours on this situation and reading e-mails

and looking at not comments that and it kind of blew me that the water was. That that communication did not seem to have happened at least back all of what evidence was presented to me. So it made me

think about how many advances my cousin happened. Was this endeavor or is this how we do all of these things that we That's the one instance I was recollect ing in. The city attorney's office is

involved in that situation that has been Yeah, years we could talk offline on that particular one. What your sport complications Yes, you would like the data for 2026. Yeah. That's a good That's the

trigger after talk a little more Alderwoman with what situation? Yes, well aware tonight. Thank you very Passed Thank you so much, MISTER Chair. Thanks for starting the meeting to appreciate I did

want to thank the You've been really responsive. Usually when we bring a constituent issue to you almost the same day, and I really know we've had like of its normal, but it felt like an abnormal

amount of like water main breaks. And then we had. But you call it when like the yes, something about it. When the like water won't stop running, they call that went to the break. But it's the.

Hydrants like we keep having that, where it's just on non stop and waters pouring everywhere on the streets. We've called. We've even out of like on the weekend, I feel like I've reached out to your I

want to say I appreciate that because he's a pretty emergency situations and along with what we share with the mayor's office yesterday. I do want to find a better math. I appreciate that. But I feel

like organization like that's probably not the best method. So we're going to encourage in all commissioner and especially with so many different divisions our contact people. And, you know, I know we

can go to you and we can go to Kevin. But like we would like in addition to the requested we are seeing an overall increase. So just please, I'm using example, but that's worked well, but I just don't

think it's sustainable. Yeah, I think that's something we're working on. The vaccine is 3rd last year. Is it like to get you guys a binder? First of all, quick references to certain things that is

easy for the constituents to do. But who is who is your point of contact and the backup for that? 76 people take vacations, all the Eli's. And so as we to educate. Obviously, your guys is much like

assistance, but also your cell. So we're we're going to build something like that because I think you're right. I mean, I don't I have folks that can do the job. I mean, it gets to me and we'll like a

new less phone calls totally. Absolutely. Yeah. You didn't get a lot of will say that later. But you got like 50 leaf emails no to a when we made some of the changes. But back to water, I came in a

time when Alderman the lake construction zones. We get that too. It's just very this leaves mixed messaging because even some potholes that have been and such bad shape, I guess it's better than

nothing. But like I'm assuming it's workers. I hope it's not because it runs are putting up cones. So like it's just I know we can lose a little bit of pride in our city. We've do a little better job,

but and that's happened with water projects to and figuring it out. I still struggle. We kind of almost always go to Kevin. We think it's a road project and then sometimes it ends up being waters. Is

online tool still working up to date your time of the infrastructure with pia Week. Unlike type in your head, just what's going on in maybe not working perfectly. It's working. The problem is we don't

have the water projects actually get the water and see infrastructure roadway projects high impact traffic calming sewer stuff. So that's where we started as a which is hosting the infrastructure

section. So then that second faces to get the water projects and corporate as well. So that map will get a little more full, but then and this comes down to almost the qr code discussion is, you know,

constricted dot and click on that. What's in front my it's no pressurization. So that's something that we will be working on to add. That's why it's important doesn't work. But it's just not there.

Okay and last but not least if it was covered the time we can talk about it to talk about fluoride. I'm confused about like why we keep changing that. I'm sure there's a chemical situation. There can

talk about that like it went up and down and back up like, is that just what was going with that? We so we do scored at the recommended level by the and we are following a resolution. I remember the

year the resolution we've been adding fluoride to the water since 1950's 3, 2 or 3, much our contract for fluoride expired in early AUGUST and it was the first year of a newly established contract

with a vendor. And there was the opportunity for the vendor to extend another year marked by extended multiple years, which is traditionally been the case. But there is a shortage of attention. So

they told us they did not want to extend the contract. There was too much uncertainty. Strange to get us fluoride. We then utilize purchasing to issue an advertisement in a new vendor. Retain. We

received no bids. So at that point in time, the current vendor, this is that at the end of JULY told us that he would get us to more shipments, wanted each plant. We? Plants and we decided that no

rather than discontinue Florida altogether. We would reduce we did a number on that. I was just confused, ok? Yeah. So we reduce Florida all the way down to 3.1, 2 of which is naturally occurring a

lake. So very low doses sense. Then we have been able to secure informally a vendor without a contract was told us that they can get us a load of months. And so we have been able to increase the

dosage and we did not issue a press release about this or do we have been able to increase the dosage to a little over points for? And we have received 3 lows from that fund or informally. So we're

ok, we're just emailing them and saying, can you give us a load? And they've they have been able to do that. There is some hope that the mark it will improve at the end of the year. That's when a

member of the vendors have told us that they lock down there contracts and then they'll know if they have additional capacity so we can hold 10, 2 go out to Ed bid. This year or early next. And we

need a formal contract We cannot continue on with the unique situation, ok, I know it's important to have in the water. That really helps. Situation. I didn't think it was like, values or financial

things. So it's just a commodity. That's another one. That is a part of finding us strand. There's uncertainty administration are. It's like a tariff on Anderson. Well, no, they're reviewing the book.

The rig reviewing the guidance, ongoing. And so there's that what we heard from the suppliers manufacturers is there on certain how Long Beach municipal fluoride market I see We'll get lucky. Thank

you so I do have a few short questions before we wrap up water, a fire hydrant standards as their uniform a distance. The hydrant should be from the curb. We've seen some older neighborhoods there

right next to the curb. And you're all set to turn this hydrant sideways so that a bus doesn't hit it in other neighborhoods in my district. It might be 15 feet away from the curb from a very wide

terrace. Is there anything is there? Is there a best practice right now? This is an incredible memory test. Been a long time. Well, the problem me is that it's so far back from the curb that cars

don't see it. And they park in front of the the hybrid, not even realizing that there's a meter interesting. We we should have very few of them that it is follow-up question is should we be painting

the curbs there so that cars do know that there's a need. I would love to do that, but I did not have the asking for everyone. Yeah, I'm saying where there's a there's hybrid that exceeds our normal

standards. I guess we can investigate able to do something. I think we I think we have to figure how many of Patrick, because it's a small plane alderman, Brooke Ellis, with the help of blue and a pal

of yellow paint the side of I was doing last weekend, right? Thank you for that. And then Milwaukee. Water is it tested on a regular basis? better quality than a lot of the things in the plastic

bottles of people carry around with them all all the time has more. He water works as an enterprise fund. Is it able to or has it ever explored branding and bottling Milwaukee water too, because

Milwaukee water is so much better than what you by the plastic jug. It's been talked about on and off over the years. I don't know that it's ever really. And pushed forward all that far. We would have

to find. About a lure me would have to we have a couple breweries. We found that and I think it's Tucson. Has there water in Cannes really sharp looking cans that It has been discussed that we should

try to do. We need approval, though, from the compact based on selling Great Lakes water think that some of because it's not a lot of water as long as we don't sell it outside of the Great Lakes get

those other communities. So it has been explored. But yet and some of things is impacts us more the the canning of it because it's more of a recyclable. Perhaps waterworks can license the brand of

Milwaukee water works to laterals. Is there a concerted effort to make sure that lead lateral to replace before certainly local road reconstruction? But what about painting is only 10 or 15 year

expectancy. Should we be looking at making sure that lead laterals are replaced was this is a great question. We have a lot of internal meetings related to the type of infrastructure projects and we

should replace lead service lines. And so. High impact has always been high impact has always been determined. It is a maintenance, not a replacement. And so we've always prayer to prioritize the

entire removal of the pavement and not just the high impact. There's so many more high impacts that are going on. And I'm not sure that we would hit the capacity of actually getting it done outside

the prayer station and explore. But really it's we have not even touch the base of impact at all. It's always local, paving and the major construction ones like you can going to have, if we if we know

we have a neighborhood that has a lot of lead service lines and we know that we're going to be doing. I impacts can't we coordinate and say, well, these high impacts are coming up in the next 2 years.

Let's get those lead laterals done before that we do. So if we have scheduled high-impact, that's where discussion happens with the water utility going. Oh, you guys are gonna come in there and do a

part of the privatization program. We will high impact that that court nation does happen, but just not never built all over the this discussion. I think we just had a meeting to us potentially be

delayed a year some reason, just because the lab that also come in. And then a municipal bills thankyou water works for sending out the municipal bills on behalf of all the other parts of the city of

do you receive any support or revenue urker cautions that cautioning spread across those other sources? Yes, okay. And then when you get a return mail, when you send a bill out and it comes back,

Anderson owner moved or something. But how does the department process that we talk about this in the past? But do you investigate those last or MISS Directed bills were the mailing address is an

where you just wait for the next bill to come out with another leafy and with someone to reach out, we do go through all of the returned where premise based meaning the bill is supposed to go to.

Building. That's being served last. The owner directs us to send it elsewhere. So I think what we've been doing most recently because we did have a return mail challenge is we've been if it's not

going to the promise we've been reverting it back to the present premise when it's written return comes back. Return if so, if the premises and the address that you just bring it back, got it. Do you

reach out to the assessor's office or the treasurer's office to share hackers updates that you have in your database or do you ask them for their address? Updates to Stan same page and have the and

use the most. We sent a relevant data is if you're sending the bill to the to the location. And the property tax bill is going somewhere else. That would be a good clue as to where the water bill

should be redirected to and the opposite would be the same if the water bill is getting paid. But the treasurer's office has past taxes going to the famous and not a different address. They probably

want to get your information, your mailing address as well. 2 systems don't talk to each other right? But there has to be some sort of way to share the most relevant data so that our constituents

don't keep getting past. Due notice is in late fees and late fee after a late fee. What we do. I'm trying to recall because we did have a long conversation about this 6 months ago because of all of

the return mail are getting and what we needed to be doing. In order to be compliant with pfc. We do waterworks does check with the assessor's office on the address. It's being used for the tax bill

and it s# different than the address we had. I think we were changing into that. But the psc. Doesn't allow us to make that decision on our own. As I said, the owner has to to tell us, too direct the

bill elsewhere. So I think what we just determined is if it's different, then we are reverting it back to the premise. But we did. We are in contact with the assessor's office. I don't we know that

they. I would have to check in on customer service and billing a notice saying your water bills 3 months late. Would you like to change your mailing forecast. I think that's probably the avenue we

would have to go down because just because the property tax is going somewhere doesn't necessarily mean the water. The municipal bills going separately could be more of that. The occupant was paid for

it. So that's I think that's where the psc kind of holds back in there because they don't know who is actually paying. But I think that's the question. If you get to link what you know, there's a

difference between where your tax bills going. Hey, by the way, and you can they can make a decision. I think that's probably the better route to go. Anything we can do to help avoid unintended late

fees and late billing I think would be I didn't want to acknowledge Alderwoman Pratt did join us briefly of any other questions for the water works. Dpw. Thank you so much. Thank you for joining us.

And we're our agenda to dpw infrastructure and I'll pass which you have to. Thank you so much based CHAIRMAN. All are in. Pierre goes free. She ate them. Dpw. Infrastructures up. Come on up. Looking

to do one. 2, 1, half hour on that and one hour or less on sewer maintenance fund. What we can work through lunch and then get through the other 3 self. We got a whole game plan like But I am thinking

about what we allocate each one death. So. Up. Joke. The whole they like. And who's the designated so much what we're reading her Department of Public Works And like I said, I'm trying to keep it

around an hour hour and a half in an hour or less on sewer maintenance fund that will help us get our. Schedule ready for the afternoon, too. So with that, we will begin with Director Nicole back.

Thanks. We have Mason here and then we'll head to the commissioner. And I think the Dodgers are starting a writing night. So it's probably yelling should blast. There we go. Budget Management

division, whereas the chair said we're moving on to tp w infrastructure and Mason Levy will present those but his fight before turning it over to Cherryland. Kevin. Good morning. MADAM Chair members

slate from Belgium and even division plan does give you a quick overview of deep to be infrastructures budget and I'll hand over to commissioner his team will provide you more detail on a key

services. Okay. Infrastructures operating budget totals just over. 54.4 million dollars, which is an increase of one point 9 million dollars or 4%. Sergeant Opry budgets increase minimally while

equipment increases by 1.4 million dollars with key investments in street lighting and street maintenance equipment. Overall positions and on and that he's decreased by 38 20.7, 8, 9, ftc, an increase

of just about over 5. Okay. Budget by service from all sources w infrastructure budget is a 187.0 5 million dollars. Grants include 14.4 million dollars for the state and federal paid him program in

6.7 million dollars to the major bridge program of that. Of their total budget. About 112 million dollars capital related that 120 12 million dollars about 20 million is related to water Department's

lead lateral line replacement program. All right. Moving on to salaries and positions. Salaries for 2027 total. 24.9 million dollars, which is an increase of $114,000 or increases can be mainly

attributed to the human is classification and 4%. General City increased in 2026. Positions. And on that ftc, a significant decrease as the department moves to Right-size on consular positions and

meet budget reduction targets. For the next 3 slides. Some detail on position changes by decision unit, transportation infrastructure sees the addition of 3 civil engineers engineer. And this is to

address to higher design in do projects. These positions are all reimbursable and a charge of capital grant projects. In addition, the plant and equipment sections. He's a reduction of the mechanic.

Any yard attendant. Both of these are vacant and a reduced to meet budget targets. Transportation operations. He's a reduction of 8 positions in the signal on this machine shop, 5 electrical services

labors. The machine is a welder and mechanic positions are vacant and reductions lock in existing service levels and reduce future future flexibility to staff up to meet service demands. Additionally

the street lane section season reduction of 19 unfunded auxiliary positions as well as 9 funded electrical positions and a cat and gis technician. Proposed reductions achieved reductions achieved

budget expenditure targets while limiting service impacts that has all the positions are vacant. Alright, bridges and buildings season increase in the information security section and reductions in

both the custodial and bridge maintenance Operations. Section 8, a new security met a new security manager position address a citywide security and safety needs at all. Dpw managed facilities,

custodial services reduces to baking custodial positions with manageable impact. Internal service delivery. Bridge, maintenance and operation trades to bridge operators for to bridge maintenance leads

and reduces to a concrete repair crew leaders to meet budget reductions. The newly doesn't mean it's because uses positions are expected to streamline movable bridge maintenance at lower costs. All

right. Moving on to operating equipment and special funds. Operate fund's total 16.6 million dollars, which is an increase of $329 or 2% operating allocations are adjusted annually with experience and

generally increase with inflationary equipment fund's total 1.7 million dollars, which is an increase of 1.4 million dollars. And this is mainly due to targeted investments in special equipment aimed

at reducing costs and boost efficiency in key service areas. All right. Moving on to revenues. Total revenues for dpw. Infrastructure are 17.3 million dollars, which is an increase of 2.5 million

dollars. We're 17 per cent charge for services excluding the street like fee decreased slightly to just over 4 million dollars. While miscellaneous revenues increased by 2 million, this increase can

be attributed to the sewer and water. Red River is moving from the debt service fund to the General Fund and that's to after debt service was fully pay down on the deed to be headquarters, building.

The street lady fee increases by 4% to 10.7 million dollars in this covers about 42% of all street lane costs. And with that, I'll hand it over to the commission. His team will be more information

progress. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Chair and committee members Commissioner Public works to request a key. I will hand it over to come. You see him here to go through the details of

asking members of the committee, Kevin News City engineer, which makes me the director of the Infrastructure Services Division. I'm happy to review the next slides here. So I'm going to each of the

major programs, particularly the the units that use a lot of capital funding to deliver infrastructure across the city. Start with the bridge program. So major bridge program. You can see the totals

there. 7, 7 million borrowing with a 7 million in borrowing in a little under 7 million in grant aid. Then the local program about 3.8 million in borrowing. There's a list here of the projects that we

are planning to do under each category happy to shape CHAIRMAN Citation that should just keep moving. And then keep solace here. And I'm happy to answer questions about those health plan. Just a note

in case the vice chairperson that mention us because you guys have so many divisions and staff here. What we're doing is just having them come up. Give. Thanks. Streets on to the next looking at

paving. So this includes this line includes our major program, which is any project that has state or federal aid attached to it as well as the local reconstruction, local high impact. You can see the

totals for each there. Generally speaking, the city maintains in the neighborhood of about 5,000 lane miles of streets across the city. The arterial system, the busiest roads is what elgible for those

stead, state and federal grant programs. Collectors and local roads or not. And therefore, the local reconstruction, local high impact is generally focused on those roadways. We have average costs on

the slide for each of those 2 types of local per Lane Mile 170,000 pretty lame mile and 1.4 million per Lane Mile for Reconstruction. We use the Lane Mile language within dpw because the list of roads

can vary across the city. But if you're thinking of a general residential street, that's probably going to be between 3.2 to 3.6 lane miles wide. So because the default is roughly 9 feet as an average

lean laden with so that necessary totals plans for the funding in 2027 as about 5 lane miles of local road reconstruction resurfacing. 74 lane miles of high-impact, paving and 12.3, Les Miles of major

road work. Category, which covers a whole swath of of capital programs at the top there, Ali reconstruction. We are expecting 6 or 7 alleys will be funded with the proposed capital budget this year.

Sidewalks just want to highlight that. This continues the capital funding for the new in-house sidewalk crew that was amended into the budget and 2026. So they are focusing primarily on the scattered

say program, which were allocated roughly a million of the sidewalk program, too. And our Quarter Section program, which is also called the area Wide Sidewalk replacement program. My staff sometimes

it's being allocated a little under 900,000 moving down the list, traffic control facilities. Those are primarily signals are going to use the the lion share of those funds. So updating signals

replacing them as part of any local paving projects, maintaining them and generally keeping them in good operation and making investments in them. Multi-modal transportation. Just want to note if

you've got an earlier version, the slides that was an error, that it should be 1.4 million, which 3 Million. That's consistent with the amount allocated last questions about that goes to but things

like our safe routes to school program and other things of mentor, multi modal transportation, 2 programs in our electoral services, sections of kind of investment, the city's underground kind of a

communication system that one and a half million here is largely driven by coordinating with paving projects. So when a paving project is coming through, we review our underground kind of

infrastructure and determine if investment is in that infrastructure. And that's what we budget for electrical manholes as both paving projects in the same way and also proactive maintenance on some

of our oldest electrical manholes underground. That those of you who have been on the council little bit longer MAY remember, we're I'm struggling to stay in good conditions on this program was

created several years ago to help that situation. And then finally, 750,000 same as last year for protected bikeway infrastructure projects throughout the city. Street lighting street lighting 14 and

a half million or so. 15 million with the cash revenue there from energy savings. So street lighting itself about 12 million in investments. You can see on the right in the chart and that bar chart

how we just how we distribute the cost of that capital program and what it's going to if you're thinking about circuit replacements, that is the neighborhood lighting program primarily so that 4.1, 1

million and some of the engineering costs go to that circuit replacements as well. Planning for about 380 fixtures are placed in 2027 through this funding did want to note that we are on target to

complete our led conversion for circuits that can accept led lights at the end of 2026, which was the original committed to time frame for that knockdowns proposing 3 million several years ago. Now

where we're charged the reimbursable fun, but we were not being reimbursed to the full amount. So that fund's balance was continuing to grow and grow and the negative. And so this PRESIDENT's proposed

a few years back now and included in the budget regularly now on an annual basis to cover those costs. Mason did at a note here just because we do get this question. Sometimes the street lighting feet

compared to all of the costs that come into our street lighting system. So that's the bottom left. There. The fee is proposed to generate 10.3 million in 2027. If you include all in the capital cost

going into the street lighting system, we spent about 25.3 million in 2025. Facilities and buildings. So this is a again to a laundry list of our standard capital programs to invest in our facilities.

A couple highlights to mention here center next. Who's we are? There's an investment needed in the 809, building just over my left shoulder, which is going to replace do some of the side working,

replace windows on that buildings. That one highlight one for for that. I'll just jump quickly to the biggest item on this list, which is the municipal Services building. The 10 million because I

realize the next slide touches on that. Some will all get back to that and key plays. I did want to highlight this one just because it's a little unusual compared to what you've seen in the past. So

there's 415,791 and borrowing and about 770,000 in cash revenues. Those cash revenues are more of a technical situation that additional money for part Mke plays for the parks program. Now, Biden Park,

which at least the first phase is nearing completion. Now up near Century City. My mind a park included a lot of green infrastructure, which is great. That green infrastructure was partially funded by

mst by a grant when that was set up. Essentially our staff made an error and how they set up those funds. And so the repayment from msd is coming back to the parks program as cash revenue, but

normally would be a reimbursement that occurred. So it's just kind of an and accounting issue. So that is not $770,000 that we didn't to allocate to other projects going forward at the foreign 15,000.

We are not proposing new parks with this budget. Some of you are We did hire a coordinator this year. He's been doing it, frankly, a bang-up job doing an excellent job and moving projects forward. So

we are catching up on all of our projects in the mk Perks initiative. As we've gone through the public outreach and developed those projects. A couple things inflationary costs have hit our parks,

infrastructure costs just like anything else. But more importantly is we've gone to the outreach. We've gotten scope increases, scope improvements, additional things the public would like. And the

parks that we think are worthwhile as well. And so that 4 15,000 is to complete previously committed to projects. And we're not proposing at this point to take on additional projects for 2027, we're

focused on getting the last of our backlog done and completed by by the end of the year. We just will services because I touched on just momentarily. So this is probably the most facilities ask we've

been making. We started this ask last year. Some feedback was given around needing more details behind the ask at that time before the council is willing to commit capital dollars to this project

going forward. So we spent some time working on that one. We identified a site and secure that site. So 32 82 North 35th Street, which is just a few blocks south of field headquarters and we think

there'll be some nice efficiencies with the co-location that occur. There but the secondly, we took a more rigorous look at collecting the data and asked us for so looking at what it would take to

stay in our current location at 16th and can now operationally we knew we didn't want to be there just because of the size of the site. It's a little under 7 acre site. But analysis back in 2019

actually indicated that electrical services at that point, which was a higher staffing level at that point. But at that point, I needed something more like 15 to 17 acres. So we knew we didn't want to

stay where because of that. But we also knew that there was a mounting pressure to invest in our current facility to keep it operational. And so that had been ongoing and the council had approved many

smaller asks between one to 2 million annually for that. But the structural issues in particular continuing to pose challenges that that site, the main thing going on is that the building, the

different parts of the building are settling. Differentially. So it's right on the Menominee River we actually I read a line. I don't recall personally reading before in a consultant's report on the

analysis of this, which is the building has never stabilized. It was built more than 100 years ago and apparently has never reached its settling point as those geotechnical issues can to end the week.

Soils attorneys continue to cause problems, but those issues are now accelerates. We've got different parts of the building that are sinking differently. A staircase is starting to peel away from one

portion of the building and we expect those costs are just going to continue to pose challenges. So we do have an estimate of staying in our current location of about 73 million in today's dollars

compared to an estimate of about 44 million or so to move to our new location, which is also larger. And with more efficiently as well. So that's what's shown described here. We do have more details

behind that we can share with the committee upon request. Some others had previously requested it during the Capitol Improvement budget with those. You can see in the chart on the right, the planned

ask for additional borrowing and future in. 28. And 29 to complete the funding staff for a new municipal services building location. With that, I'm I'm nearly done here. So key performance I don't

think there's too much to highlight here. Just noting that we do have obviously a relatively high amount of lane miles of street that we're proposing to improve with this. The investment in this

budget, particularly the high impact caving in investment as well as a relatively of miles of protected bikeway lanes or trails that we're expecting to add in 2027. Those are both of those are. Plan

for it to be contracted out 2027. Answer questions on those as we presented these in the way that they were asked in the last year. We didn't present them in the way the committee wanted. So we we did

make sure manager of Arsenal manager across the categories that I know the commissioner highlighted this during the waterworks discussion. But in general, the pw remains proud our staff within city

choose to We covered a lot of ground there. It was like he doesn't breathe. Waters started with all the women more so infrastructure will start with Alderwoman hand. If you're a to go model a kite

estimate for the total cent, this city facilities? Across all city facilities. We can see what we can get you. It's a large number, but but I that would. That probably universal. But we do have

estimates for several larger facilities so we can get that to you. And then some of the department's to them. So we want to coordinate with police fire and library who have if you want total citywide,

we have to what we It wants citywide Rd. Just one And this year it was true with. We heard yesterday. But in the past of the we talked about the need for more space. And a Florida has often come up.

Paying, we'll plan to pay and properties and the amount of square footage. You need it by various departments. Maybe is for you. And maybe combination. Have we done some kind of analysis for, you

know, the money. We know it take to the money. We know that these leases will take on an annual basis to kind of figure out an excess of Wayne. Floor instead of pan out as Ernst and Young a few years

ago on that. And they're strong recommendation was to do them enough U.S. Municipal Service building first based on all those factors. Yeah, that was the initial start. But we had done a another

analysis and so multiple phases here so we can analyze the city hall complex. One, the other one had services building where obviously we're look at the long-term savings, the city and just looks like

today because of disrepair. You'll see in the transportation fund as well. There's the idea of getting out of the least building there to go into existing. So we're in the process of evaluating with

hundreds of buildings across the city. So what we're trying to go through is this is like step one to talk about the missile services, but all the other things and what that price tag is today. And so

it's a lot. And so what we're trying to do is evaluate are there parcels that we can get the tax roll and get rid of? Can we consolidate also taking the considerations of the deeds of every other

department because we don't just make the decision. I am the superintendent buildings per ordinance. But you do have to take everyone's opinions as what they want in their functionality, although that

is very difficult because I think it's a game of risk. In my opinion, everyone wants more room. And so our job is to ask why, as we move technology over advancing technology, white, any more room. And

so those things are all going on. We do have other phases of building analysis. We want to go through. But the first 2 was a city hall complex and this will services building. But we have other ones

that will follow just just to add to the commissioner said there that that second analysis that identified the path we're now on actually for the municipal Services building actually looked at several

industrial facilities that the city owns of a similar type and looked at. Should be repackage. And we look at all of these together. Should we look at various permutations and and that's the

conclusion of that was the most cost-effective approach was municipal services. But that analysis is what identified that there was an opportunity to repurpose existing city facilities with

renovations, which is part of the Transportation Fund budget to get out of one leased facility, which was that the tire shop down in 2015 come out. So so there are opportunities we're looking at for

that. The 8th floor itself ballpark is a 5 million dollar renovation. Well, that was the estimate 15 years It was like 4 years ago. But yeah, well, no, there was because this was in still 5 Million?

We've read it look that properties that we foreclosed on. Keeping up for a something we can use. We ever take that kind of approach. It's a great question. And I don't know if we've had particular

parcels so we. I don't know that we've done it as Yes, I think you're probably asking other women. We did ask again as part of looking for sites for municipal with that. I think the the first place to

look, was there anything the city-owned? But there wasn't anything that made sense really, of that size You know, prior to the stand-up of the internal team. You are estimating we're about 5 years

behind for that individual repairs would gate with this year's investment. If you're given that has been proposed. Doesn't move in at all yet. We believe it will, but I don't have firm answers for you

yet because that team just started operations actually a few weeks ago. So we still need to measure efficiency to see if it matches what was forecast when year. But this will enable us to continue

down that path. That will certainly, you know, at the Public Works Committee be updating the committee as we Street repairs in that. Street repairs West, a process of inspection. So make sure So we

have inspectors just as mentioned for water works. We have inspectors that are assigned to the project. We also have construction supervisors who are sometimes the ones who interact with other medical

offices. If there's questions about a specific managing several projects across the city. Probably the most important concept is the punch list concept, which is where we do go and walk with the

contractor, our inspectors. In some cases, the supervisors will walk through into the punch list process to make sure that everything was done to city standards. Everything is cleaned up. Everything

is complete before we close out the contract. So that's that's the stage in which we're certainly doing that. One thing that, you know, we've received feedback from other medical offices, including

yours in the recent past that I think we are. Trying to think about how we can do better is substantial completion, which is not the end of a project, but it's the end of what the public sees. And so

there MAY be some additional elements that where we come back. I'm an example, would be coming back in spring to plant the trees and put the side down and those types of things. Right? So there MAY be

some elements of the project like barrels and those sorts of things that get left in preparation for that. So we're what we're trying to do. It's down a little bit better is to make sure that we're

being thoughtful about traffic control that gets left behind. But then also thinking about how we communicate to the public. Why that's there. That is more efficient and some cases for us to leave it

there. Even though we recognize it's plastic for us to leave it there so that when the contractor does come back to do that work, they don't have to re mobilize the traffic control subcontractor,

bring that equipment back out so we're open to that. I will say. When I do respond specifically to all the men and offices on bike, these barrels were left here. This signage was left here. Fairly

frequently. It actually private utility work that left behind. And so what tends to happen as we spend a little bit of time trying to figure if we can figure out whose it is because it's owned by some

traffic control subcontractor that works in the metro area. And if we can't figure that out, our street maintenance staff actually the one to go and pick up that traffic control. It added to the city

stockpile basically so that's that's the. I'm not going to say. That's even 90%. But I would say the majority of the ones that reach my desk are actually left behind through permit private work. Which

we are exploring, you know, with recent ordinance changes how we can do a better job of. Discouraging that. We don't inspect going private We do do that isn't even more. So I discussed the how many

they like supervisors usually have several projects they're watching at any given moment. We have 5 utility cut inspectors for the entire city. And they MAY be watching dozens of sites at 100 and

across the years. Hundreds per per staff person. So there are things that, yes, don't go perfectly with the private work because of the number of sites that they're watching. Even around understaffed.

I just think over time. Because some of these isis that private work and we have a suspect, is that going to look at some point if they see and they can be? Written up or removed or whatever needs

that people could be fined or whatever our knees as a line of the on demand Westmoreland is working But I just think I literally could take you to some areas Monday. Some right now is that right. Some

of it is private. Had their names on is not a is a private contractor. Whatever. But I just think of. That it should be taken care of The other thing is for work with that is asked, for example, an

awesome time that you might you contract is worth. I put that tarnished stuff. The term rock stuff. On the street for whatever reason. But the point is to come back later, once that I'm like this is

Hormuz levees that and then we come back. Who make sure they MAY come So it it depends what you're probably seeing actually is more likely public work in that case. So that is probably so. It's always

possible that yes, a private contractor didn't do the final step of the current restoration. I don't I haven't seen that is a widespread issue. What is more common is actually our own utility

waterworks cuts and sewer cuts and some electrical services cuts, although that's less common in the roadway itself that are then restored by our our street maintenance staff. So with our own backlog

of of getting that that is a challenge on that. That being said, the degree to which it settles and causes the lump in this and all of that. It's a thing that we are talking about internally as far as

the practice like the actual doing that work of the temporary patch and whether or not there are ways that we can do it better to decrease settling over time. We're also looking at other. Ways to

catch up on those utility cuts to. So we haven't identify solutions that so. It's a good time talking about it to. I think it's important too. Because you guys have come before public works before

we've had these crowds about on of the actual workers when do the work were present and I've had conversations with them public and privately. And a lot of thought cost that they had about what could

help. We're beyond what you want to discuss, what s and public works and calm. Everything from equipment failures and maybe having more mechanics to help with that quicker to having more people who

are trained well on the equipment to be are you on talking with the staff who do the work to figure out how to do because maybe is not just that we need more workers kind of thing. Maybe there are

things that we could be doing that could help us improve the timeliness packed So are you are working to figure out solutions to. Yes, absolutely. So I think actually the budget does include some

emphasis on equipment partially based on the feedback we've gotten from staff and to Pfizer's management as well. So 2 things you mentioned. So yes, if the city's fiscal picture was different, some

additional staff would be helpful, right? We have more in the past. It would be nice to have more. But given the city's fiscal picture, we are are focused on the equipment piece of that. I want to

talk first about equipment, reliability that you mentioned. That's a real challenge across several parts of the city operations and infrastructure. Certainly I'm sure there's other parts as well. That

units that use fleets of vehicles and therefore have some reliability challenges. It's it's purely based on again, not having enough money to re. New our fleet as well as we should. Our fleet is just

too old. The this is shifting gears away from potholes, but I want to use it as an example. So electoral services, Mason highlighted that we were asking for quite a bit more in equipment this year in

our budget that we usually do electrical services is at the point where we are renting several pieces of equipment because our existing equipment is so unreliable been sold. So in the electrical

services budget, there's and ask for roughly a million dollars and replacement equipment, which is unusual thing. We haven't done that recently. And that's because of the issue that you're talking

about for street maintenance, 2 separate things that we are requesting someone is are proposing. One is to additional asphalt recycler. Hot box trailers or or or machines certainly remembers the

discussion with the Brewers that pay for half of of the one we do have early reviews on that have been pretty not every staffer, some of that, but some do. And it's enough where we think that having

one per street maintenance district. We have a North Central and South district. It makes sense to help us be more efficient services just as a quick reminder for those who aren't aware, maybe don't

remember Allow us to use hot mix in additional time periods beyond mix is available from the plants because we can actually recover mix throughout the year store it and then recycle that we warm it up

and use. It's a battle a little bit lengthen our window of hot mix, which is great. It's also safer for staff because all the equipment on the trailer is at a lower level than it is on the back of a

truck bed. So it's easier to the movers they might make weather with the shovel or crabbing other pieces equipment. It's just a little bit more efficient. The final piece is that it does maintain the

hot mix, asphalt at the right temperature throughout the day, which will give us a better product on the because in our current state, when we load up the back of a truck with asphalt as you get

towards the end the use of that truck bed full of asphalt. It has started to cool and therefore doesn't onto the roadway as well. And we're patching and patching potholes. So those are the types of

things we are looking at. The other big task for the 2 Quitman isn't additional road catcher we still we believe we ask for because we believe that the road catchers are going to be very beneficial

thing for us going forward. You talked about training and that is is very real. When it comes to the road patches we have right now. So we have 4 road that the city owns currently and we have ban.

We've had a number of challenges this related to their use that they did not get out much at all. Actually, the biggest thing, though, that and we are determined to address this over the winter is

it's clear that the training that we offered our staff that to operate those patches was was inadequate. And so we need a more robust training program working with fleet in the manufacturer to develop

that more robust training program, trained several of our of our higher level field staff within street to work on that to deploy them properly during during 2027 to help address The road pictures are

extremely efficient based on our understanding from other cities when they are used to their full capability. 2 Roth estimate is about 1800 potholes. A season per road pattern that only one staff

member that's behind the wheel there as opposed to 4 in a typical crew and can be more on a busy road and that efficiency about 1800 is actually more efficient for the whole crew. So we do continue to

think that makes sense to make the investment in addition, additional road into fleet this afternoon will describe some of the other things we're doing really to fleet as a whole. Obviously, we're

talking street maintenance, but the overall picture things that we have done in the past. They're doing the future. And some of the concerns that we do have moving forward because that is something

that is probably the keeps me up at night. The most we're seeing positive numbers and recruitment and our numbers are going up as an organization like I had mentioned earlier. And now we get to the

point where I don't have vehicles to put them in and how do we solve the problems? We do have some of those answers and we'll go through some of that this mechanic see have. The U.S. She's trying to

think as a 54 door vehicle service technicians and we had and what we're proposing, adding one in this budget titles lubricant to. Yeah. So in in last year in the budget which we added 2, which is one

of the water, which is sewer to basically located over dpw headquarters to reduce the city fed of maintenance items over there, which is in the process as well. So so one of the scenarios that was

given to me by a staff person was. Say a driver. There's Tony d'Amato challenges. One is we when they come. You know, it even able to do the route because it too tired to whatever whatever they have

to make. That judgment is sensitive equipment above the because if you time to go home, that might be around, the anything crazy. But so that's one scenario that Megan are my 2 overtime is a concern

about scenario was because their air brake seconds every style work. So the person hi sums wrong with the air bring them over to the mechanic thing and they're not where the mechanic is and it's told

you the air brakes are not functioning. If I don't bring gave and I'm not doing what my manager told me to do. Plus, we're taking something sectioning it done? And that about an hour and people get in

trouble for not great. So it was just like a home want to concern and or fear by If I don't make them do this and this doesn't get done because honors in the city of family guy, do these. But there

are real things like them out functions like people being to at greater risk or whatever. I'm not expecting this. I've been at this table here today, but I hope as you develop with employees that

solutions for all the days the child are aspects, too. Also help. I know we're dealing with the mayor's proposed budget. But I also hope that if you guys can really turn us around way. Kabul, a Mormon

cancer whatever, whatever that you are taking because I know you MAY not get all of what you want. We do have an ability to do amendment center helped to send me some the knees above and beyond what

the mayor's office mayor proposed in. But we wouldn't know what to do. Last we heard from you all about what really, really help. My hope is that the one mechanic and whatever equipment being granted

by the mayor is is enough. But if it is something more that could help us deal with this pothole issue because I don't see it going the kind of liabilities on the city went to other things. So if

there's a way that we can get a reasonable how we MAY never going to 72 hours. But we gotta get it to less Okeechobee. And perfect. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Is hit everything that you've

talked about. So every section, everything's on the table. Other street light bridges, pothole. So that's I'm good at bat. All right. Street Bridge reopened? So the plan is for the bridge to be open

by the end of this year. To begin any tariff refunds for the steel that we have to overpay for. Consumers don't get tariff refunds where the importer. So I do want to say So primarily and I think we

talk about this previously alderman the the driver of increased costs on the bridge when it came to materials was buy America requirements which aren't necessarily related to additions or removals.

And actually it yes, the still matters. Certainly, but actually a number of the mechanical and electrical pieces. We do know cost quite a bit more to me to buy American requirements knows have been

around for a long time for questions. How many up parks are funded designed are in process and waiting for of reconstruction rebuilding. Except do we accept donations good things? Good press event We

the parks that we have in the pipeline right now that are part of this. This budget proposal are 12 tonight in District 15 97 thirst in district 2 73 p Prince District. 5 13th and weapon District 12

during Kylie District. One Rice key in district, 8 31st 31st in Galena District. 15 and then we once that part of the budget proposal. So those are the ones that we are trying to get out the door by

the end of 2027 person Stack 50 person. Staff is already already past perfect sense that we're trying to catch up on things that we've already paid for and authorized. So I appreciate the diligence

and getting through that backlog sentiments. But the parks team a very effective neighborhood engagement, which is exactly what residents expect. Thank you the city Hall of Plaza proposal has been his

hit. Additional funding that was identified is the city Hall Plaza going to raise the street level so that city hall and tree would be very are free. Spending. Millions million dollars for that Plaza.

One of the bigger concerns I get from constituents about access and city Hall is that there are stairs and there's a very point. If we were to raise the street level outside those 6 Because the

money's there. Use and and it making city People's House yet accessible a priority. Yeah, I definitely appreciate that. I think that's what else will settle them. And I think so that wasn't in the

current scope. We can look at what might be possible to make certainly more very different than it is right now. The biggest challenge is that the current scope is focused on the market street side of

the building. And I don't know with with the door is on the market street portion of the building that we would be able to actually feasibly raise that level that high as as the whole street given

where the the across the street comes from. Right. So the parking garage that the market street as the market street entrance for zeiler those types of things. But we will look into and see talk about

that is it's an internal stairwell. So you Ada, accessibility into City Hall. I think that's what we want to get to it that we can look into. All right. And then space planning of $900,000 budgeted

for that. What space is does that include is that mpd facilities? The fire department facilities is that just dpw? Insisted Pw facility just dpw facilities. Over the last decade. There have been

statue includes the whole complex from over the last decade. We've of staff reductions incident in the city service. We have a lot fewer people working in. An 809, in city Hall. Is there room

somewhere in dpw floor plan? For a small office of 12 to 15 people. And he's and he's consolidating your footprint. Part of that space planning. So if the floors to expensive, you have have a floor

quarter floor somewhere else that can accommodate another. Not all together. That's that's the big challenge. Is that you're correct that there are some spaces struck the whole complex rain, all 3

buildings that that MAY be available, the challenges that they are not concentrated. And so you have to move departments and other groups around and that process of moving has costs tied to it right

to make renovations to different places, to make them ready to accept the new staff. We did have the budget director mentions that Ernst and young study. So we did have you. I look at the whole

complex that primary target of that review was actually seen if Essentially vacate the 809, building for from city staff and determine another use for that land or whatever. At some point in the

future, what was determined is that it probably is technically possible, but it requires renovations to every floor of both city Hall and cyber. And so the cost of all those renovations that are

building. And we can share that report if anyone is interested so specific to finding a place for a dozen 15 people. As as back. But I cannot think of one other than the 8th floor right now with her

so that many offices vacant near each other. Well, I mean, you don't need an office door necessarily. You don't need. We don't have document retention and office space cabinet requirements for able to

do their jobs in the right? Yeah. Some of the staff reductions we've had this unnecessary is in this complex. That's more than some of the field staff, which is a little different. So what's happened

in the city hall complex is really to have been stable over the past few years. Had asked for that $350,000 Patch or I don't see it in the requested budget. It's just in the proposed budget that's for

friends following along at home Page 3.40, to 13. Line. 25. It was not in the requested budget, but it's in the proposed budget. Yes. And so the public involvement that occurred between the requested

budget and the proposed budget is is what led to that discussion. It also led to a proposed increase in the high impact paving program that, you And I appreciate the brief answer, but that I just kind

of ties into the reductions in staff. Electrical services. So did we have the same public outcry for a street light repairs before you considered the cuts to electrical services. Sure. I think the to

my understanding was that the feedback that was received overwhelmingly during the budget open houses was related to potholes and road condition. That being said. We did look and talk about that with

the budget office in General Street Maintenance. Electric service is obviously a lot of, as you said, positions. We move from electoral services. None of the positions route from electrical services

were recently filled. These are long-term vacancies so we shouldn't see an immediate yes, so we're not expecting or with suction from current in street it and so the feedback week. So we're not

cutting streetlight services. We're an funding vacant positions. And we're adding the patch or and the high impact paving and that ad be on request was in response to public feedback which was road

specific as the top line from the service right We've turned into 2 or 3 week turned time for a dark neighborhood. And I have neighborhoods in my district that have been out for 2 weeks. They can text

their out first there on for 3 days and they're out again for another 10 days. And then they're on for another 2. Absolutely. Even if these positions that electrical services has vacant right now.

Heartbreaking. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to fill Understood the need additional piece I wanted to add to that is that. Part of the challenge with an electrical services was also the

equipment related line item. And so we are did you We got about half of what we asked for. Would you rather have more electrical services equipment, then the pothole filling machine that's going to

take 2 years to get. Well, we're we have 4 that are sitting idle. I think we would. It's a tough call because it's, decisions. And so one thing I do want to emphasize, I mean, we're talking a street

lighting and outages. And so one of the things that has thrown a curve ball. Which is different than that and so longer outages are occurring not necessary from a circuits age, but it's because that's

related to that, which has increased our numbers, which the response time has changed yet. But it's but it's the repeated problems on the cbs hit show because they're they're they're there and they

believe in if you fix one particular area, there could be trouble down there. That's that's what's occurring. And so those lead times and they could get on that circuit a lot more if we didn't have to

deal with a lot of the spread and trucks that were not renting. If we had more staff that aren't, they can't. See that every single section within dpw. It's it's true. I mean, I mean, I'm not going to

put one of section over another. It's the entire department. And it's been that this is the fiscal challenge. I think it's a city that we have and prioritizing basic city services is exactly what our

residents are asking us to correct it. Thank you very much. MADAM Chair. Thank you so much. Okay. Let's stand lighting here. So. Wasn't the And I would like to recognize Alderman the under Jackson.

Thank you for being here. We're gonna come to you as well. What we do is we complete finance and personnel. One round we go to colleagues when we come back street lights that I see a 4% increase. Is

that what that was for on the municipal bill for street lighting? Much revenue will that produced? A 10.7 million. 386,000? It might be implied. Quest question from your earlier questions. There is

room on it's a question about for anyone residents. But yes, because there's room there for pushing that? Just slightly Alderman Burgos. Nice book about this little bit is. We were not the ones to

decide necessarily what's progressive. I think I can say what's repressive, but the way to the municipal bill is applied to everyone, including nonprofits. Now, if you're a government agency, I guess

is for director called back who? It is. We don't charge them right here because we find out like throughout my questions at like 30% of the nonprofit buildings were government owned. They don't they

could charge a street light. I think but we do charge of the And Ps because that's the bigger us questioning of the assessor's office. Well, it's interesting. The fees, definitely it's less of a

burden meant. Depending on your overall, it's less. It's less additional costs for residents. Do fees worst Texas, but somewhat mimics, if you will. The trajectory of property tax, which other than

income taxes are only other progressive tool. In my opinion, because it's based on square basin linear footage of the bill are I thought about an street lighting fee. So those are tied to the other

ones are actually use it when we're looking at solid waste and stormwater okay to street late frontage and it doesn't matter if you have a 40 foot lot with a $50,000 home on it. We're $500,000 home

grown to more of a 50 million Dollar hospital. He made the exact same amount per foot for her flight for foot, the hospital and storm water fee. You do pay based on that equivalent. What based on area

roughly not beyond known provable area that repay usage. What I thought the r# , right. But those you do Yes, yes. So that in the home or every homeowner pays the same, the are you will. Residents

unit. But then if you're not just a home in your big surface lot or big roof without drainage or without of calculation and how many areas you are right? It's a roughly its square footage per know.

Yeah. Well, that's where Wouldn't that be the same when your square footage if we were to do a similar type of assessment for like traffic coming in front of a house like that. Same way that street

lighting replacement on know if you are a house like assessment for us, same similar formula that, yes, your footage of the operator. Okay. All right. So on the lights, I realize now that the end of

2026, we're going to complete the anything that could 2 led will, but we're still going to have those outstanding circuits crack that could not be converted. District have an abnormal amount of those

who cannot be converted to led. Yes, yes, the public or older can look gov. Slash street lights. Will that direct links to a page that has a map and on there, the green areas are serious circuitry

which cannot distribution across the city. Okay. Okay. So then with that being said now that we will have completed the conversion from what I understood waiting patiently in line, it will per like

now for the non led try to outrageous. But is that true, though, that then will be kind of bumped up because we'll have a move that off. We won't have that program ongoing anymore, right? So yes,

we'll be able to dedicate resources to certain convictions. Can you feel like in the past we've had like a supplemental and you're pretty good at these occasional reports. I would want to know then

where some of the circus in my district are. If they're being bumped up to one, not with the non led or or whatever they are, because we are having repeated circa trouble and made working directly

with Mark and shout out to him, of course, because he's been amazing, stood with me, the baby Bash as well. So I guess where I'm going with this and want to connect it to potholes. I brought this up

with the mayor's office yesterday, but I'm really interested in a public facing dashboard. I think if you see me struggling, I do think people like other woman caught just saying it used to be 72

hours or, you know, at some point I found only through talking to my colleague that we were like at a 3 weeks waiting period understandable. But we need to explain that. The only reason only way it's

coming to the public. Is like, I don't think they're getting an estimate when they make their complaint right. Like a shipping estimate or something. So then they just know that it's not getting taken

care of. And then they're calling a summer-like. You know, we're like a ad hoc dashboard right? And so I just I think and I where I'm going with this is, you know, that I've been asking questions to

Kevin and I was looking a little bit or at our friends in New York and they had this kind of pothole blitz so what they did was like 5 or 6 weekends. And mandated overtime and we're really able to

work on the backlog. It sounds like we're already kind of doing But I do know that we're telling our story. And I think because I have no idea where where where we are in this officer and I'm not able

to communicate it. Okay. And I think what ends up happening is one tell you from the user experience is it's the same thing almost with like long wait times on police. People are just gonna stop

reporting because they feel like why would I reported if it doesn't ever get taken care of and it doesn't matter. And these are important ambassadors in our community and then that throws off all of

our data. So she fits like kind of complaint because the way you kind of get to the top is complete based right? So we've got to really reexamine this. And that's why I think this kind of public

facing dashboard. Like anything, you know, like You're like, oh, okay. I ended up meeting one of the tough time. So at least have an idea. Ran a red green or yellow type of a situation. Okay, because

I'm telling all my constituents to report. I think my district kind of over reports, but then they're not seeing the feedback or the impact and they feel like they're kind of lost in this oblivion of

service requests. And I guess that's where I also inquired about. I don't are you going back there in closing? The case is out number. I asked about this, this is where I think there's a particular

are to 2 years ago. I think we made this transitions of potholes are a little bit different than several other types of service requests within dpw said they are entirely native within a cell up. So

we use this l a not only is the way we receive requests. That's actually how we dispatch and to deploy staff order system and puddles were the first at least an infrastructure. The first service

requests that was from that way. So yes, there, actually, when they're close, they're closed by our staff in the field. Other types of dpw work order requests have different workflows so it can differ

but closed means and when they get close and who closes them, unfortunately due to the way the back end, it. Works or doesn't but yeah, potholes. Is it pretty live feedback. So if those are closed and

not, you know, the constituent, which does happen on occasion, right to constituent indicates this is close. But it wasn't done 2 things that that could have happened. So one. We did this and then

realize we have made a mistake back in late MAY when things were getting particularly challenging for potholes or had been for a little while. We actually went through an identified or supervisor

Dana, 5 duplicates and they were closing out the duplicates. But we're still doing the original. That was not good customer service. So we stopped doing that because obviously people were complaining

saying this is closed. It hasn't been done and we were like, yeah, we know we're going to get to it. But there's no way the public we're not doing that anymore. So that did happen at one point this

year, which was which was the wrong call, the the other thing that can occur is simply that our staff found a pothole nearby and MAY not have understood what request the resident have, because it's

it's personal based right? And so photos are very helpful. Photos that show context like Not tuned in just on a pothole that can be very helpful to our staff to identify which one has been requested

by the residents. And so particularly people using the app. Please take photos if you can. Why government saying is they sometimes, though, if you see some in the area, they're surprising just doing

the one So we should be doing what's nearby. The challenge we face a few different challenges. They MAY MISS Something it the so proud of these often these are really related to these are different

scenarios. So one, particularly in the denser parts of town. People will request potholes that are then under a parked car. When we get there. So we MAY not realize that that's the pothole they

requested. If it wasn't specifically described or there wasn't a fumble, So that definitely happens. I've witnessed that myself as a user of the system. Do crews have a no parking sign to come back

the next day? I don't think the evidence comes in to what regulations parking regulations of 24 or 48 hour notice and some of this stuff. So that's where that comes to the markets. We can look into

that. Train of thought here a little bit that the other one that is it pretty typical? Is that to the resident? It MAY look like it's obvious like if you just keep going down this street, the pothole

is right there. But the staff MAY have been routed to turn left to head towards their next designated locations. So they MAY not have actually seen it even though, again, to a resident. If you're

heading in a straight line, it seems obvious. So that does happen as well. But yeah, they are asked to look around and try to identify nearby requests that could also be filled. We have are considered

a pot hole fee on the municipal bill. Have we collect? I think right now really to street maintenance treatment is cause I funded through that. We'll pack so 10% of the wheel, Texaco Street attended a

separate fee that's agreed. Want to make sure not double counting correctly would increases proposed in his At some point the money was in its way to go and don't freak every I'm just saying that it

seems what we're doing isn't meeting the needs of people's demands. So I that's why I had looked at other cities. That idea that I found out we were doing our own pothole blitz in my gosh. Are we ever

going to get caught up? I see that the overall that's a symptom of a larger issue, which is the high impact paving and street repairs. But even that is kind of a drop in what we need. Well, it's an

increase, but a drop in the bucket. So we need to communicate carefully to the public, especially when like even in change gears and street lighting the like, how is this going to impact things that

are in your neighborhood? They're just not seeing that. They feel they're paying more and they're not seeing the or will we? Actually we have a couple people, but go ahead. Really quick honor and west

morning. Happy. I'm here. In chambers. So please very I got a question in relation to pothole filler actually just any projects. How come it? I'm sure this has come up in a probably just missed that.

How come we don't do any second shift? Pothole filling or second share for paving projects, cause I see other municipality doing it. They bring up these big bright lights and not a lot of traffic

since APRIL we've been doing we do over 7 additional 3 hours after crews usually complete. But that isn't in the dark side after nightfall it's probably several reasons. One is safety of staff making

sure cause it's harder to make sure that they are saying safe on roadways around drivers who we MAY or MAY not care about as they later at night when it comes to contracted work. There is sometimes

our projects to actually include overnight work. And I know you know this because of all he's been project where the most common thing that others will certainly receive complaints about. So we do a

concrete project and there's pavement cutting. Well, because that has to be done a certain number of our like the whole war after hours were correct or 2 about is the calm, I think in general might

work straight and simple. To complete the same out of addition to that, I mean, treat and noise violations and the interruption like that people are sleeping at night. There's a lot of complaints that

usually relate to that. So even if we do work at night in some situations like water main breaks, we do because those are emergency. There's always complaints like why are you here? So that kind of

folds into it. So in some other communities where they are not as dense as we're. That does after we go through finds that but feel free to get in line. It. The municipal building. So is that a

complete so ok, you'll see eventually sell the site. That's kind of the rains it's a complete brand-new construction on the new place on 35 to the new place currently is planned to be a mix. So there

is a structure on site out there about half of that structure we plan to renovate and that there will perhaps my colleague, isis are ready. Have you spoken cws for complaints engagement that are

currently renting spaces? About some of the rental areas to that. We to put them there. We can. Yeah, there's no room with a new place. Yeah. I mean, well, if you're in the building mode and you're

renovating, we would have to add additional I think it's more if it's less than what we're paying for private rental to I, 100% agree with you CHAIRWOMAN At this location. It's still tight for the

operation now, other locations. I think that's where this could come into play as we start looking at space planning. But where we're at right now, it is still tight. And as it exists, moving out

there than you and I mean, removing a 10 and a half acres from are increasing the space. Modernizing. There's a lot of positives related to this. But then yet it's still we could actually have a

bigger parcel. And so to accommodate what we actually need. So that, yes, those 2 departments were in front of us yesterday. They both have. Lease agreements with private entities in the community or

other looking to. And we're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars. So I'm just interested interesting out. It's rare that we like building or remodeling a new facility done that and a lot a long

time. So I think it is an opportunity we should cost it out. And just if it's a if it doesn't work, that we did the spike or more Jackson chambers us what we're going to let Thank you. MADAM Try to

keep to fewer questions. So can get a chance for the colleagues to get in with respect, I guess as long as we're on potholes and Which promoted we have any timeline on when the new street maintenance

manager will going? Out to all of your offices yesterday about this. So about 2 weeks ago, we did fill that position. Elliott Smith, who is a construction management here street services manager also

okay. Gotcha. With respect to. So you said in a solo when it to you when something is marked is completed in the public facing. Version, folks can see this marks complete. That means the just that

it's been assigned, correct. And that's maybe not the case for other. Not for every workflow rights. And so that that transition yesterday ball to drop. And so I will give time later. He spent a lot

of time in this one. He was the treatments manager. The next is to get the rest of those services moved over to the same platform. So that is in process. And might I suggest for privatization that

street lighting would be one of the ones that get up there because that is the one we get the call text saying that, you know, it's marked is completed. It's not done what's going on with respect to

funding for streets for the can and I guess lied 11. We have. Paving split into 3 batches there. State and a local reconstruction, which is the the reconstruction of the mill and fill. But the actual

where you do curb gutter and such and then the local high impact, which is the provided on Page one. 29 of the request for you all to work larvae. It shows the funding for local streets program and

high-impact program by dollar amounts over the years. It would be good to have on a graph that shows Lane Miles. For those dollars because obviously we're looking at I impact. In 2025. It was funded

at than what you can buy for the 12 million proposed under this budget. So we're not trying to do anything other than make clear that even though it's a commitment and funding here, it's a management

and the number of Lane Miles were able to do so if we do want to keep the number of Lehman Miles at historic high and historic high, we will need to increase the funding yet further. Still I did

notice also on Page 11 of the slides that you have 6 million in borrowing for local high impact and then 6 million of the cash revenues. That's the transferred from the Transportation Fund which will

discuss later this afternoon. But the 6 million is, I think historically, maybe a little might be a question for the budget office that they they can answer at this time. But what I'd hate to see is

whatever happens with the 6 Million. If we come back next transfer. We come back next year and high impact is only at 6 million or something like that. So especially when we see this chart that says

you get less bang for your buck as time moves on. We know that portion of the high impact money goes to ada compliance So it's just you can get lost during a dollar figure here. And I want to make

sure that we have clear indication of you brought up a tha so I think the lane miles on hip will change drastically when that change kicked in like the first 2 years of hip. We're getting a lot of

lane miles an hour. Getting there be a shift there. You're asked. I mean, I'm not I'm not ready to make amendments on the 2020 budget. Obviously. Roads are priority now. We expect them to continue to

be a priority given all the deferred maintenance going back decades. But will there be enough money to go around? And 28 is an open question. And I can predict your town hall will tell you that will

be the number one every year since I've been an okay. So yeah. That data request relatively clear. Kathy for working with dpw. Okay. Then with respect to this street lighting if I pulled up the graph

and the dpw Street lighting page that shows for the map that shows in green and purple. What is series, what cereal? What remains to be converted. So there was an allocation years ago. You know, as

part of where I put for 10 million sponsor to filed to to get fix the worst of the worst. And then my colleague spearheaded adding more money couldn't get out those contracts. There wasn't capacity

and the market for it. So we switched gears to the led route. So what we in effect did was make the best circuits better. And we kind of left the worst circuits. To their lot in life. There has been

savings from the led is being switched and that is supposedly plowed into dealing with the worst of the worst. How much of an impact are we going to see is that the $500,000 in cash revenues? And we

have to. Guess we'll have to see what those increases. And I mean, decreases in overall. Electricity costs are and what we're currently putting into circuit and street lighting replacements to see

what we that one of the challenges is it's it's your counter factual situation, right where the rates are going up and the rates are going up. And so that is that's one we know we're saving money

compared to what it actually decrease year-over-year, right, donating steeply than we would have otherwise. So so the nation be saying to the constituents, merrily that, hey, don't worry all this

money. We're saving by converting ladies means we're doing more circus than ever before. That's that still accurate. But it's that every of impact or of that stuff that we're doing, maybe not weigh

more a little more that we mean if you look at previous budgets, we had the 2 programs, which is one, which is the led and one, which was the second replacements s led light commercial. Now that

dollars is going to be solely focused on circuit. So it's still true. But yes, you're right. The impact is different. So is there a way to measure how well that I know there's a way to how many

circuits, but also how many fixtures you're impacting each year and kind of what the historical trends have been in the last 5 years. And then what we think we're going to be able to do now that that

one program is going away. How much? How many more replacements are we gonna? More. And then I'm assuming when you're deciding which circuits to replace, are you basing it on what the number of

outages in the last 5 years it's yeah, more art than science here. But somebody could have a a pretty bleak trend. That's not the worst of the worst. But then the last year some lake readings have

gone off the rails. Yes, and that that absolutely does happen. So actually, one of the things that we need to have a discussion with the council about is we have that prioritize list with the arpa

funding was originally designated, which is a very public list that at least some You are aware that was because You're correct. That that list is no longer a list of the worst least reliable circuits

in the city. And so we do need to have a conversation about whether we shift some from that list. So but that is something want to have that conversation. So please with respect to the electrical

service positions that are limited in this budget. I know saying longstanding vacancies, you know, funded but not fields for years. So at some point we cut bait. But that does mean that even if we're

preserving service levels and electrical for next year, there's no no possibility from proving them, right? Correct. Because we don't have those positions. Is the reason that we haven't been able to

fill them. Financial there just were not paying enough. I know we increase. We did the classification for the market studies to kind of try to catch up to who was out poaching us. And we sort of did

for a millisecond. And then they kept going so what is there consideration since since street lights are an ongoing, huge. Complaint base. We get of looking at, you know, just seeing those rates again

based trying to figure out, is it? Pay a loan that's causing those to be unfilled perpetually or is. It's just not enough. That isn't that passed. I mean, that's yes. Partially leads into our studio

then the electors, if we cut off our pipeline, are we? Pitching for trouble? Couple a few years down the road. Easiest question answer. Don't believe we are because we still see significant demand at

our current level. Right. This is our current level of staff. We see significant demand for apprenticeship positions from our existing electrical worker pool, which is the position that most I from

that pool. So I don't think we're in any danger of not having enough apprentices for the future our current electricians to work with those folks? And we are and so many of those to correct. Yeah. So

I don't think that that would be the limiting factor. I think. Wire the position's vacant. So there's the kind of a confluence of factors. Someone is some of these positions actually require a certain

amount of experience, generally experience that people get at the city, an intellectual services before you can move up. And so they are vacant. Some of them are vacant purely because. The amount of

time it takes to move to meet the minimum requirements to get up to the experience you need to qualify for. That position has not happened since the market study occurred. So that's that's one piece

the other is we probably have to defer Dr on whether or not additional salary adjustments were here. And if you know, Andrea, we've been saying for months that, you know, that hiv is ups, one was the

last one. And then from now, you know, we're looking and then Dr is planning on a company. And, you know, coming forward with the compensation policy so far other than the market studies and the other

reclassifications that happened over the past 3 and-a-half years into this summer. You know, he's been across the board proposals for the last couple, 3 raises there. We would like to do more than

that in a city hot citywide way. And so they'll be a proposal coming forward, future budgets at the council agrees. In the spring, I think was the timeline outlined now. Have we have we reached a

point where we have a crisis in hiring a particular position again. I don't think what I'm hearing them. So I don't I don't I think that. The answer is that's not our current intent. If that to do a

market r-class of that of the politicians. But I'm not tied to protect the future. What we're hoping that those adjustments made will not open adjustments made of improve the vacancy rate. If that's

where we are now. And just for clarity, the positions were not funding. We're not eliminating position authority for in the budget or we are then. What's what's the I guess could is the thought there

is? Filling of these positions have to be before we take that dramatic? Want to be fair? I'm not sure it was that we so much as we were trying to close 100 million dollar gap. And this is one way to

do it and it wouldn't reduce current the service levels, right? But you can do that without funding and you don't have to eliminate the position that I think that's why I'm asking. Have we basically

said these are positions were not be able few different philosophies on that over the past years. Other men on the remove the funding versus removed the authority. It actually ends up. Keeping the

authority, but not having the funding ends up causing a lot of internal confusion and inefficiency, actually, because people aren't aware of managers aren't aware of what they have. And it's, you

know, it's a it's a regular conversations or maybe this is a bad risk. But our assumption was that the fiscal picture does improve in the future. The budget office, the mayor, the council with

support, you know, adding that position of authority back to a funding. It's clean unless it's a very temporary maneuver. It's cleaner to remove the authorities. Yeah, no. And I I mean, in general, I

agree with that. I mean, I'm sure in trying to be arguing for keeping paper anything. But I'm yeah. The roll back the tape. But Israel confusing because when Peter brought it up earlier. The

conversation was that it was just the funding was being When Sam Authority and the Correct them separately. win with Peter asked about the much of a position. But maybe I just missed it. A mistake was

that it was just the funding because it had been so hard to place people anyway. Play somebody anyway. It took the funding about the position now authority was still there. And now you're saying it

took both the authority and the the funding. So Curt, correct? 19 unfunded amount to a positions at the department chose to clean up because they just weren't being used. So that's just those are just

unfunded. Auxiliary positions at the department could use in the past to hire a hit they needed to. But they there's no fun and 19 positions never had funding and they're just being removed to clean

up, I guess operations on paper right? 9 electrical workers in labor's that are funded are being reduced because the department. Could not be higher up to that level in 21, but it into. Learn how to

read these and now you're going to change again. You're saying. Director might is cleaner to do it this way. And a moment when I know my district on a hard hit with the hard for me to sail. Maybe I

they're so if we get a chance that we could get it in the net. But to that in that moment where eliminating electricians, when I'm literally sitting at neighborhood meetings that the in areas that are

blacked out and I've been blacked out for a while, followed by a year where we had the worst circuitry situation in the whole city. And that's difficult for me to explain to my constituents. To get

things moving. So alderman's bikers, stills the to be a little more something. I mean, it's cleaner on paper to eliminate the paper cups. But politically, it is a very tough. Thank you to say at a

time when. The last question and we'll get into some of this with the transportation fund. But it looks like half the funding for the increase in. Or have We have the funding for the local high impact

program. Is this transfer from the Transportation Fund that done? I guess I'll just warn members next year. Will be an election year. And it will be a year where potholes are still terrible. Maybe not

as terrible as this year, but pretty terrible. And so we'll be in the position of saying, hey, we want to fund help as much as we did last year. Sure would like to but the funding source identified

here is a transfer from the transportation is. Is the budget office and like this is an ongoing thing or again, I can ask you to do 2028, but I don't want to step into as it were a trap that he and

I'll take I mean. But the at but the Lane Mile Asterisk on this. But we in in a budget which with an unusual actions and with that persistently high overall gap, we increased funding in this area, not

Les Miles, but funding. I think it's fair to say that if we didn't and Warren will talk, probably we can talk now of the funding in the train station. But if we didn't raise the permits the meters and

the tickets, we wouldn't have that money to transfer. So I think if then we would actually given all the other constraints we probably be proposing a slight reduction. In hip and local roads combined

versus previous highs. So that allowed us to hold that up. You know, Tony, is that make? Yeah, but my question is more like is the robustness of the funding source. There so that we can expect to be

able to do this and then that will really get into the transportation fund because if if half of the funding for hip, this coming from this transfer, then if we don't expect it to happen next year,

that's going to be a shot. We are confident that it is where we'll talk more about where we talk now. But but that confident that that funding sources robust, we think our cause. Assumptions or even a

bit conservative and because we learned some lessons from Pryor revenue assumption, the Transportation fund going back 5 years and more. So to me the more the open question is not will that funding

towards be looks like feel confident it will be. It's what we spend on hip. We spend on closing other gaps. That's what I'm concerned about. Yeah, so I won't get into that for the transportation fund.

But this is something tough like for colleagues given the funding source for help this year. It's an open question whether we'll have anything like this funding source next year. Just given all the

other constraints in the budget. Yes, all of it's an open question that I've been highlighting that. Yeah, but it's the substance of the large structural gap makes everything uncertain. Yeah. And it's

a difference that we could be facing next year funding transportation from. Thank you, MADAM Chair, for your indulgence. I hope we can get some relief from the state that's from hoping Alderwoman more

aldermen. Jackson aldermen chambers is what we're going in here. Thank you so much. MADAM Chair. Kevin, I'm gonna stick on this street light outage issue just because I'm getting e-mails and as we all

are, is there anything that we can do in the interim I don't so 2 things when they're out in certain areas, it's pitch dark and it's just a safety issue there. Some neighborhoods are at some places

where people just take advantage of the issue and they're breaking into cars, garages, etc. So, you know, are there any best practices? I've been telling my neighbors, my residents, hey, please tell

your porch light to figure out ways to just eliminate, you know, the area. So number one, is there anything that we can, you know, share with people tell people to do in the interim. The second thing

is, is there any way that, you know, folks know where they are on the list, you know, to say, hey, you know, you will be up in 3 days or you'll be up in 3 weeks like. And it's it's really, you know, I

mean, you all service this sort of go to, you know, we're like, ok, you know, and then people always threatened me. Hey, let's go to the media. And it's just like, you know, history like come on fast

or, you know, yes, it brings light to the situation by there's all other people in line as well that have not gotten their street lights on at all, right. So I want to be fair and equitable at the

same time. So is there anything that we can also do to so that people can, you know, look on the dashboard to say, yeah, we know you're out. You know, we are where we get it. Where are you on the

list? You know, this is where you are on the list or this is the estimate time frame to get it addressed and thank you all the women. So we do in the short Turner in we have spent time thinking about

this. We talked with other partners about this, talked with other all there's about this as well. I think first when you went to is the first time we go to, which is. But, you know, private property

turned on if you can. If you've I think there MAY be. And I want to say MAY because I'm not MAY be some. And these nonprofits out there that are that are working with neighborhood time deploying solar

lighting and those types of things, again, on poor choice, those types of private things. I think actually them and stand for recent mentioned that to me most recently. So I can dig into that and

follow up with you on it. As far things we can do at dpw. We have explored what it might take to do. Some sort of deployment of temporary lighting. And the basic conclusion is. It will slow us down of

repairing the circuits and it will cost money. We basically where we are. Unfortunately on that when it comes to giving proactive updates to the public and hearing echoes of what all the root of what

the CHAIRWOMAN Said regarding potholes. And so. Our back and write the backend technology right now doesn't allow that. But there. This is something I will chew to communicate proactively. I think it

is reasonable to to come up with a way to just proactively communicate. This is about how long it will take for us to get to you, which is just a week and it's been a rough average, right? There's

also things that could be done which would which would require tech investments. But ones were interested in many ways like we talked about getting street lighting into Acela, which might allow us to

provide more live updates to the public. So will we'll think about that and see if we can get that. I'm not even sure will be able to get it done this year but will start. Some issues were really

technical than others. For example, you know, like my neighborhood that we were out for about where for about 3 weeks. And then I came back on once and then went back off again. are there certain

things that are like, oh, this must be more complex in this area versus someone else were area where you can go in out the lights yeah. That they're absolutely can be what probably is most common as I

understand it is on our old the circuitry of the series circuitry there can be multiple problems. Sure. And fixing one MAY not actually bring the lights back on, but we MAY not know there's an

additional problem down the line until we fix the first right? Yeah. The other one I will say which I'm not. I will just say I've only a couple recently which is good. It's getting better. But I have

a couple of directions recently where people have sent to a saint. The lie to that out for 2 weeks. And we do not have a report from that area. And so that's still an important thing to echo to the

public. Like about it. So so that does happen still as well. But probably the most common one is on again and the worst circuit and the oldest circuitry on that series circuitry where there might be

multiple sites where staff are taking up rewiring spy scene running your cable and so they MAY have completed a repair. But then immediately, you know, causes the tissue further down the line as it as

the electricity identifies another flaw. Can I look like what kind of circuitry my sewing by the There is a map. You can zoom in on it. And that will tell you whether you're on series or multiple

circuitry. Interesting. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you so much for that. And I'll end by What should we tell people when, you know they want reimbursement for their fee? I just want to know what

to mark more times and I would like to discuss. But what do you want us to tell them when they want to be reimbursed for the number of times that their lights have been out. Yeah. I mean, it.

Obviously I'm sympathetic to that is a concentrated as a consumer. I think the biggest challenge to that is it for first of all, figured out how to reimburse people would probably p a a significant

challenge just from That means there's less resources to improve the pretty simple. It will only get And the public use is more than just what they see at their door too. So I mean, we talk about

street lights in itself. There's a street light. That's its own front of your residents are on your block. Yeah. When you leave that block, they're still there. Streetlights that exist. The city that

year. Empathy for that's it's not great. But, you know, the more funny we take away, the less we have street lights on your block or in your neighborhood, do you still get a street like use the street

lights on Oklahoma Avenue. Yes. So that's something to flag again for the of the lack of progress in us and the currently in your foot of the neighborhoods, including many in my district that don't

have street lights. Don't have street lights have some of the highest think it other than I would say, I'm I'm I'm not expert in this, but I would say that it might be good to kind of the city

attorney's office about that because I think that's what the original justification that passed muster for the street waiting fee was somewhat reliant on the relationship of having streetlights

directly up the home to the city attorney that we have today is much different. It's traditional suggesting that I'm not the attorney or the experts think start know you are all good. I'm going to

switch gears a little bit to talk a little bit about our bike infrastructure. I know that I have residents that love that we're increasing our bike infrastructure and that's amazing. My question

really is centered around our existing infrastructure and keeping up think we've had this conversation before bike, you know, how do we? Due to fold? Yes, we want to increase that, you know, bike

safety and having protected lanes and all of that beautiful infrastructure. But at the same time, how do we also keep up with the maintenance of the existing infrastructure because, you know, there

are times where it's they're not swept out or they're plowed out again, building beautiful Talk to us a little bit about how do we how do we do both? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. So I think when you're

talking about sleeping and plowing. So one thing I would say is that dpw has invested in a sweeper that fits in the bike lanes. So if there are lanes that, you know, you're getting complaints about,

please let us know, let operations know. And we can look at whether or not we need to enhance our schedule in sleep by flames on a regular schedule. I can defer to them to describe that a little bit

more when it comes to plowing the standard currently in the bike lanes is the same as has the rest of the city. So we are going to be getting those done basically within a few hours when we're doing

the road right next to it, the driving lanes right next to it. So that is the standard. The challenge is that some of what gets us to bare pavement in the vehicular lanes doesn't apply to a bike lane

because one of the big things that gets us to peer payment is actual heat and pressure and the weight of the way to the vehicles causing the tires, tts and melt the ice and snow and mix in with the

salt to make that happen depending on temperatures. Bikes to not do that. And so it can be it can be a challenge to make sure we get to complete their payment. It MAY not be I would say we've had this

discussion internally with our colleagues in operations MAY not be reasonable to expect their payment in the bike lanes. And in fact, I know some of our most rated advocates around the bike lanes will

often point to different countries in Europe as best cases that are as examples that we should follow. There are several places known for biking that have snowy climates that do not seek for bare

pavement expectation is people have good tires on their bikes to be able to adapt to the conditions. We want the snow to be low enough, but bare pavement MAY not be a reality. That expectation gap.

That makes sense. I just hope that we continue to just continue the efforts as we're continuing to build out, because I just get a lot of comments around that in the same sort of with our play spaces

as well. I know that additional dollars have been allocated where those funds that were coming coming back. We're gonna just beautiful will be able to use those that the planned for 2027 is too,

because I know there was another staffer that was hired. Of a list that out plan, Kevin, as far as what are the ones that are really, really tough shape that need to and you don't need to have a

little bit more maintenance. Is there a plan that we can look at to see what's going to be the focus for If yes, so I can e-mail rattled off already. But so. 12, 10, right and 15, 97 Thurston into

70's and Fiebrantz and 5 13th in Latham in District 12 Darien and Kylie in District. One Rice, Ken District, 8 and 35th study first in Galena District 15. That is the plan for the 2027 funding which

is completing all those projects that have previously been committed to. I don't have it with me, but I tend saddened a tentative plan for the coming years of. And that would be what you're talking

about, which is the upcoming investments we hope to be able to make pending. Obviously future budget decisions. And I apologize if it. Thank you. Thank you so much for that. And then I just wanted to

clarity on Page 13 for I just want to make sure I'm reading this right works as street lighting. And then it says 12 Million. The last bullet point circuit serving 380 fixtures replaced in 2027 is

that is that will be replaced. The Twenty-twenty said, okay. That's what the budget is. The 4.1 million in the neighborhood lighting All right. Thank you, MR. Chair. I am done with my first term and

that's about $11,000 per fixture. That includes the whole not just the light and with it. How does that compare with what we've done in the past? More of these street circuits? So this year is not

particularly We did have a bump up 2 years ago and investment. And so we're trying to keep that same rough level of investment. I'm actually a few of those contractors doing the work or is that our

own crews almost entirely contractors. We do. We are targeting one circuit in-house per year, but we haven't gotten to yet this year because of the delay in that area Darks. All right. Thank you very

much. We'll move it over to Alderman Jackson. Have any penalties or warranties on concrete that out their parties. I have a spot on 51st in Taos and it's less than a year but is already cracking. That

would be good for us to know about because that MAY be that MAY be a warranty So so is years, correct? 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, years. So I'm less than a year and it's already quick. Yeah, that would be good

for us to look at look at it and see if we need to follow up with the contractor entire. So most that was put out by a dog Walker. Les is no concrete sort probably area and try to find One thing to

note country does crack. It just depends on the severity of the Kraken. There's other means to mitigate that besides replacements. So we should be cracking a little. I mean, the cracks and put in

there to relieve joins. But just to have the normal precedent within the well and we'll see what it looks like. Crack is what determines that? Coming for sure we'd have to look at and see if it's it's

have the specific performance expectations behind them. And so we have to see that violates those expectations and spoke with technical question. Diesel mechanic. So I heard the chief say. They're

going to point as far as construction on the fire trucks. Isn't just working on truck is working on a truck. Could dpw that work. We've had this conversation many times that we can bring up impaired

services. And then conversations relate to that. And so there is there's some differences. I mean, he's a mechanic, is that the type of specialty equipment related to that is a little different.

Sometimes. But I think if we had the discussion this afternoon, I can bring in Brian and kind of explain some of those the history of the conversations because it's not just straightforward and

simple. And so there's always a fear. And I know that, you prioritize and do we put all efforts into one over another? So there's there's some don't really right now in are. Current location have the

space to accommodate those vehicles right now as well. Tomorrow, 35th Street, no space. We're in canal. Well, that's that's canals where we have our century early as far city-owned properties and will

release ago as you to 35th Street. Is there everything out there. And I know that was talked about parts, another area as well. Yeah. So the proposal that part of the path of apartments on right now

is it's a separate personal. So there's 35th just south of capital rate, which is our current dpw field headquarters. 32 82 North 35th, which is just south of Townsend is the is the person that has

been purchased by the city and the planned future location for an electrical services. So they will be nearby. And actually we are working through what sort of efficiencies that's going allow us to

do. There's definitely some specialty things at both locations that we hope to merge. And we're going to talk about what that might mean from a shop perspective. It I don't think there's any plans for

additional. Erie us to move to over the hurdle. This one first before evaluate the just one percent of the question by any means we have because if we don't do it and we build on checkbook. You

virtual number. He's joining us Alderman Mark Chambers of death of his move. But I want to go back to the street light in the last of say I want to give a special thanks to Mark Graham and I know your

job is to I know the response is that we are getting from constituents and you know, so it's going to come in on the eu is not the easiest, I don't I believe that that the record go back. How much

money we have in this budget going towards the waste of money, food. Check on that. It's I think it's around 11 Million. And was currently underway. The they out some of that is for the general city

across the board wage, the proposed and some of it. As for we don't expect week, much less of it for re classes than in prior years because like I say, we expect those to debate and then there's some

for. You know, the negotiations were Public safety unions. And I'd rather discuss the details of that in closed session. If that still I'm still struggling to understand the logic of couldn't of the

electricians positions when we are. I mean, many of my colleagues stated. Getting hammered by constituents about they might about and circuits that without literally around the Capitol Heights

neighborhood and they don't have enough people to do it. So I just I'm just a little baffled why we are. Even remotely thinking about raise a very valid point here. The law to mean to the extent that

there was logic to it, it was that. By an funding vacant positions are not reducing service levels beyond current state. Your point is the current state is not acceptable. And to increase the current

state, we would have needed to provide more funding. However, had we provide more funding for these? I'm not sure that we got hired anyway. Where's the money? Felt like was more likely to be tangible

immediately. Not funded. And I guess that's the question for Commissioner Coming out. Why they're not why doing media. So just be clear position. These are electrical worker, labor positions. And so

the department has put in an extreme effort into hiring. So over the past 3 years, we've increased our workforce MAY 180. And so there's just there's many needs. Has it been as attractive as a

position as others do? I think I've stated this in some previous budget hearings in front of committee members that doing this type of work is not is appealing as it is in the private industry. So if

you're doing electrical work inside of someone's private residence or into commercial buildings, you're more in a controlled environment. The stuff we do in the public right away is difficult. So it

is more of a challenging position, too. It's not like we have not But it's just been a challenge for, I think a number of years is probably going on nearly a decade. Labors to help them along the way

and help get them the We had on finding a I guess what circus do we have getting per year yet the proposal for 2027 includes force or cuts worth of work. And I will follow up with the details of which

targets the time. I mean, every place this year. As the other 4 or 5. Total? How many total need to answers we person. Yeah, it's not. It's not a simple answer. Alderman, I apologize because couple

things. So one. A circuit is a difficult way to measure it because circuits coming very different sizes we have about actually down to about 29% of our street lighting, which is a decrease. But it's

been going down bit by bit. 29% of our street lighting is still in series circuitry, but not all of those are unreliable. We also have some multiple city circa tree that is now 18 to the point where

it needs its beef being unreliable as well. So in the universe of replacement, this is quite large. So I guess I guess where I'm going with this is speaking from my district, right? 90% ish of the

district is covered by the surges that did not qualify. Philly, correct circuits. How many have been replaced or how many need to replace Mike percent. So that equates to how many if you do, if you

give me a rough to follow up with that information to look at district 2 in and determined that both look at the reliability metrics and the number of circuits and fixtures. I'm going to I want to

make a request to to get for follow-up about the amount of my actual circuits need to be replaced in order to qualify for led, I would say do it per district. You know, because we have to have those

answers. We have to have those so we can. Try our best to talk to our positions about it because going try to hear that because rely fee. But right Bill, with Matt Streets that are out. And I keep

telling him that, you know, we're working toward some working but essentially. You know, there's no light at of the tunnel. You know, I honestly. So it I guess, you know, I guess I say to I guess I

say all this to say. You know, we should be doubling down just a wee double down the road. We should be doubling down and trying to figure out the money for street light because I think is just as

important because you are reading this need to feel safe. And I know everyone is this and isn't that you already have not heard from me nor my colleagues, but I really want to stress that. And I just

Kate Phantom, even if it's a labor position that is being cut. I just can't stand for That being said, I want to follow the no question about Obama. Westmoreland you know, the second ship far as

pothole, Phyllis and things of that nature far as paying a Kern. I know we have a look into. You know, doing going over time. Where are we at on finding external partners Aiea possibly dlc lie. Low

level boc. You know, inmates or people who need to serve community service think outside the box to help with that. Apologize, aldermen. If I misunderstood a previous request, I wasn't actually oc. We

would have to explore that a little bit more. What we did doing. There was a resolution. You MAY have been the sponsor. I apologize. Okay. I was there was a resolution that we're working on a report

for a related Senate resolution that will summarize what we have done. But now hearing you say that to see peaceful will have to explore a little bit more. We did talk to other municipalities. We

talked to the county. We talked to one that. Will bear fruit into the future but is not allowed right now, actually is a potential partnership with the county. The county actually has too have the

county board the authorized the county dot to provide services to municipalities that the state statute and so they are working to the process of authorizing that. That being said that will be a

future year thing given when it will happen. Relative to an asphalt plants are going to close. Think we can avail yourself with. They do have limited capacity just as we do. The county runs their

operation slightly differently than we do. But they do pothole filling when we asked them much earlier in the year they had no extra capacity because they were in the same situation. We were in what

they offered more recently. It as a possibility was some a handful of their crews who MAY be available if the city wants to pay for it, who MAY be available on Saturdays. Their crews are doing other

things. The crews that pothole filling are doing other things for the county during the week. So this would be a voluntary thing that they MAY offer to their staff. And we're working through the

process necessary to make that possible for next year. That we're facing right now in The problem we're facing right now, manpower. And if we are, are taking too long to hire employees. And I think

right now to the point, you know, I think Adam Berg Ellis put out a bit of file and move some funding for some things. I think we got I think we're at the point where, you know, we got to start

thinking outside the box because I know all of get worse. And instead of again worse. I feel that we have to turn over every stone that we you know, possible. So I will I will ask another request to

be sent out to sea. What type of cost saving is. Should we engage in external partnerships with and you know, whether that the oc or any other know doing some with the municipal court far as even

community service for Muni court. Maybe we can sign them up for, you know, the hours of community service and help train them where we can start workforce with the city of Milwaukee. So if I can

request information on that and see what we can do far, that would be great. I'm not going go over more. I love that. Go. Thank you, MISTER Chair for giving the brink you very much. Thank you for

those insights and the we have the data request recorded and Wolf will move on with that. Any other questions from committee members or are other members, PRESIDENT Ford, dpw, infrastructure? I have a

another. A quick round of questions. I watched. One of the street light crews come and fix the street light and right in front of my house a couple weeks ago. And I notice that the white truck and I

thought, well, maybe what they did just that, maybe they just didn't have time to pay that was one of those rented trucks, not necessarily so we can go into more clear explanation. So what we're

trying like, my question is, how much is it going? How much is the cost us to rent those aerial lifts? So that's average in 2026 electrical services. We're spending about $25,000 a month and vehicle

rentals a month. Correct? Correct. How many vehicles every renting. It varies a but that is what we are prioritizing with. The equipment request is so that we don't have to rent vehicles once those

come in. So $300,000 a year, roughly force, which is almost the costs of a pothole filler. Alright wreck told my. budget amendments ready for later on in the month. All right. Any other questions for

infrastructure? Thank you very much. Engineer news 4, your patience and your diligent answers. We appreciate you. And I'll pass the gavel back. So that we can move on with our agenda. Thank you. We

will actually take a five-minute break because we have a mem members that need to break. We do have a quorum. So 5 minutes. Also, anyone that's been hearing will be here for the whole day. We have a

couple Finance and Personnel Committee and item one to 6 o '01, communication from the mayor relating to the proposed 2027 budget. We've completed dpw water. We've also completed dpw infrastructure.

What remains for us is dpw, sewer maintenance funds, administrative services operations and transportation fund. So will now begin with dpw, Sewer maintenance fund director Budget director Nick Novak.

Thank you. MADAM Chair Committee members, Nicole Beck, director of Budget Management Division. Nathaniel Hackett go through the sewer maintenance fund slides before turning it over. Commissioners

team. Good afternoon. MADAM Chair, annual Hack Budget Management division here present the proposed budget for sewer maintenance fund. Overall. The budget is proposed to increase by 4% or just over

3.5 million dollars and will go over the causes fat and coming slides. Department are increased by This includes right-sizing over time. Cutting for city labor's remain with the fun for 12 months of

the year. Both the cola, some residents increases in 2026. And because their enterprise fund we actually have. But should the 2% of the Post cola for 27 within the Enterprise, but they don't use the

way to support the funding The operating budget is post increased by 6%. This is largely driven by construction station and an increase to reimbursable expenses are tied to races elsewhere in tp w.

The equipment budget season increase 141,000 which will allow the department to purchase 10 new large vehicles. The tension behind this is to love the fun to do more of their own equipment. Reduce

maintenance costs, would operational delays and get ahead of long procurement times. The fun maintain 6 different special funds, including one that is new as of 2026, which is for green infrastructure

maintenance. That services anticipates increased slightly over 2026. Of those larger increases. The funds transfer both to the General Fund and the Capital Fund. General Fund transfers tied to race is

an inflationary impacts in Fore street and the capital trance first increase to stand up a new program to utilize contractors to expect recruiting. The fund is for primary services. Officer

construction, cleaning maintenance and stormwater management. And on the revenue side, the ledger, we anticipate 4% increase in revenues. This is driven by $0.06 increase per 100 cubic feet of sewer

feet. And $0.81 increase the stormwater fee. And then given actuals on this year in the past couple years, That's for charges for service and interest income. Proposed budget includes the largest

location ever for green infrastructure. Construction installation. 3 million dollars. Some 1.7 million dollar increase from 26 is allocation. Investment. Other capital projects does remain the same

But you see a slight change due to a slight decrease. Decrease in the city's allocation. With that, I'm going to turn over to city engineer coming years. Good afternoon afternoon, CHAIRMAN Members of

the Kevin use a city engineer. Thanks, Danielle. So moving on to slide number 9 here, the core services for. Repair and replace defective sanitary storm sewer in combined sewer mains. We're

anticipating 11 miles of relay and mining in 2027 clean and examined sewer mains with the goal of 90 miles examined in 2027. We've been slowly increasing that goal over time. Over the past few years.

Constructing green infrastructure projects and coordinate with other departments and divisions on adding green infrastructure to their projects. We have some more detail on that as we go. And then

reducing Ian, I influence filtration into the sanitary sewer system. Next slide has that kpi of the miles of sewer examined or under contract. Some of you MAY remember that this side, the Klein

essentially after covid, we had staff retirements and also vehicle reliability issues. We do now have 3 working vehicles, which is allowing you can see that uptick in 2025. We expect 2026 to come in a

little bit better than 2025. And then we're going to keep inching that go higher as we get back to work. We hope is this more stable goal of around 100 miles a year. Both the staff expertise that

we've got more reliable equipment. Green infrastructure, construction has been a significant focus of the department over the past few years. Obviously, it's a program that's been going on for a while

now in the city. But we've been trying to push ourselves further and further each year. You can see that green infrastructure projects bar in 2025. The number of projects being quite high, either

record or close to This has been what is representative here, though, is generally more complex projects. One of the things that we do tend to talk about is that the bio swells in the middle of the

median or a boulevard, many of those locations across the city that are where it makes sense to do that are done. They're completed, not everywhere, but many of them. And so what was kind of alluded

to in the bullet and will be explained better on succeeding slides here is that we are now coordinating across the units in sections to make room for green infrastructure with our road redesign

projects, our traffic calming that's that's something that's continuing to grow each year as those capabilities expand so flipping on the slide. 12 is a some basically pictorial examples of what we've

done recently. So one of the picture on the right there is in the 3rd ward on Jefferson Street. There's a two-way bikeway that was installed this year and some very beefy bios wells that were placed

next to it within the right away and pull water away from the curb and into that storage area and water quality improvement area. Another half of the she came there and I believe in 30. So bias well

and storage area included. Other road projects include significant repay beings. All of these pictures are from Lisbon, which is our road project that's city led this year and left are permeable

pavers in the parking the water before it goes into or prevents it going into the storm system. That's it for him to the largest events and then swell example, shown in the 2 pictures on the right as

well. We also reduced the amount of impervious surface quite a bit with that project from a roadway design perspective. And then another example that's worth highlighting, particularly because it

shows how creative we're trying to be. So the harbor the bid in the South First street near the kk river on the South side, the bid in the area, the harbor district actually pursued both an amnesty

grant and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services grants for this project. And then dpw put in some funding as well. And we removed half of the road. So the eastern half of the road, which is along the

river, he's that's on the left. The before photo has been replaced by a trail and some still under construction swells on the right there of the planting to look a little better over the next couple

years right along the river again for storage and to improve water quality in that location. This is a really significant project because of the length the removal. So we're estimating 200,000 gallons

of additional storm. Water capture capacity with that project. In 2020 seven's. Those are things we have done and are nearing completion. As they noted. We've got a significant increase in city

funding, the largest amount of city funding ever for the Green Infrastructure program. That should say 7 alleys and that for some people there. But so we've got projects coordinated with Ali projects

and other paving projects for permeable, pavers. We've got a number of pio. Retention beds planned throughout the city there's an example here again from Burton Park neighborhood on the right of how

we can talk a green infrastructure into bump outs in some locations and really adds obviously a stormwater benefit. Water quality benefit, but also an aesthetic benefit for the public. One of the

reasons, though, that last set of bullets, one of the reasons for the very large increase in 2027 is actually a project that is going to construction in 2028, but it's scheduled to be bid late in

2027, which is the Sherman Boulevard Reconstruction, which is a 2 mile project between North Avenue and Capitol Drive and districts 7.15 so that is that will be the largest Shiite project within a

road that we've done as a city. And the concept there is actually to essentially replace the median with a dry creek manage the water and obviously will not be dry during during rain events. We're

going to tilt the roadway rather than draining out tilted in towards the median. One of the challenges we have throughout the neighborhoods around Sherman Boulevard is water getting in to private

property. And so that will push the drainage more into the public right away and away from the private property. So during large events, it really should be managed within the public right away as

well. So we're very excited about that. There's a lot of static improvements and benefits for that project, too. Other major updates. Work that I think again, some council members are familiar with,

but I'm working with community partners in the grass, a manner area to do private property work. Private property sewer lateral replacement program, replacing 40 private sanitary sewer laterals that

have been identified as defective. There's a grant from Misty that's helping to fund this work. We're also doing foundation drained disconnections those benefits both for the sanitary sewer system and

the storm, water management in this area and listed here as one projects. But it's actually several working next to each other. I think I should mention that said a recent Baby Public Works Committee

meeting so we are mmsd is building the West Basin right now, which is a large storm, water management pond. That's going to go north of 35th and Hopkins west of the railroad tracks on 35th. We are

going to be connecting our sewer system into that base over the next couple years as that project progresses, there, do an earthwork now on that project. So that is started. We also own a basin near

31st and capital. In the east side, the railroad tracks the former nuts pizza site and that has been completed for a little while has been vegetated and this coming year, we're going to connect it to

the system. We're hopeful that that will significantly reduce the amount of surface flooding that we see underneath the 30 Street viaduct on Capitol Drive. So that's a real key investment that we're

excited too, to move forward. It looks like it's training a small area, but actually many of the roads in the area flow downhill, including Hopkins from the southeast flow downhill towards that point.

So during large rain events, a lot of water is trying to get to that low point. And that's why we have a relatively large basin relatively small area of road. That's going to bring to it. We're also

gonna be doing additional projects on 35th Street. And later later, years as well on the west side of the tracks. Another site here, major St the city and the county have a joint technical task It.

We're looking at AUGUST 2025. In APRIL Twenty-twenty 6 storm events and and trying to determine next steps for immediate actions and also the next generation of investments in our infrastructure,

which are long-term. A lot of the investments that I just talked about around 30th in capital came out of engineering programs that we're a developed, a plan following the 22,008 2010 storms. So it's

kind of our next generation of planning. We're developing a framework that I think will be released publicly relatively of citizens that has and of this but somewhat self to get engaged on this issue

around community resiliency related to large flood events. And so the task force, the next meeting of the task force to actually be a joint meeting between the task force and some leaders of that

citizen group to discuss how we can work collaboratively and move forward together. Related to the task force, but not task force, our sewer staff are managing staff are investigating potential major

storm sewer investments in the city. One not related to the green infrastructure is talked about in Sherman Boulevard, but another potential benefit there's the potential for significant storm sewer

extension north of 10 million dollar project, 15 million Dollar Project too, again improve the storm system's capacity. And Ernie Sherman Boulevard essentially from North a little south of North

Avenue for for a couple miles to the And so we're we're continuing to pursue the engineering on that and eventually move towards construction. We're looking at Deer Creek down in the southeast corner

of the city near District 14. And whether or not there's anything we can do there, too divert stormwater away from the combined sewer system to reduce the burden on the combined sewer system during

large storm events and northwest side, just he's tonight's park and then threw it. There MAY also be some possibilities for improvements there that we're exploring as well. And once we have concepts

will be reviewing those with the dnr and other appropriate entities to see if that's something we can pull off. There's been a discussion recently at the committee so I won't spend too much time on

this, but we are to continuing to revamp. There's been a resolution sponsored element causing alone Pratt to formalize our hot spot for flash flooding, locations, process and procedure and make it a

little bit more resilient. So we are going through the process of implementing essentially the request in that resolution and moving forward with that as well. Final slide is his department

demographics. Again, this information is available. I believe we present that the many questions we p happy to talk about it. So. One quick trend I saw in this one and then infrastructure is just a

really kind of lopsided male, the female. What can we do to change that? It was like almost 80 20 years. 75 25? Yeah. So this is an effort to the department's been going through for quite some time

and a lot of positions we have. They're really labor intensive. And so getting more women into our workforce has been a priority. And so those numbers have increased, believe it or not over the past,

you know, 5 to 6 years, but it's still a challenge. It's it's tough jobs. But that doesn't mean we haven't been trying to continually work with the community and getting more females into these more

laboring type job. So it's it's been an effort and we continue. We'll work forward to try to get more and more in there yeah, because I saw that in infrastructure as well. So think about that. A

little bit some kind of similar. I was their chief had some really bold ways of looking at things. I thought the other day, maybe to see that change. Slightly managers 10 to 2. And that's Exactly.

Well with we check my notes starting with Alderman Charlie Moore. If you're ready to roll on sewer maintenance. Yeah. Okay. It's so funny because I started out with sewer maintenance questions as of

Kevin, you talked about we did 7 green alleys. This in 2026. 2027 is proposed to have 7, 7, It's ok, but you did. How many do we do? And I believe we have But let me make sure. But I believe all of

the alleys that are being reconstruction 2026 are green alleys. The only time we don't do green alleys is if there's a specific. Basically a technical reason that prevents it in those are pretty rare.

So I can double Okay. Thank you. And where they're located are some very specific, too. You know where they need that infrastructure place like you can't just I'm assuming you can't just do a green

alley anywhere, right weekend in almost all Probably the biggest limitation is just if the overall drainage of the alley doesn't make it conducive for us to collect that storm water in the centre

trench and that is there but otherwise. Yeah, we we generally Cam. Okay. Yeah. And then how do you all decide where their where their place so the default is again, unless there's a specific

limitation on the site, a default is that all the alleys or Green Alley. So they all have that permeable paver up and running down the center. So it's more a question of how do we prioritize alleys

for a construction. Okay. Okay. Okay. Which is that? Which is a you know, obviously not to go too far back into the other. A conversation overall fiscal picture dedication to the choice of

prioritizing alleys and how much we want to put into alleys each year and that it's a conversation with aldermanic offices when it when it is time for Ali to happen in the district. Got it. Okay. And

I again, I started off with this question the last time in regards to. In regards to the flooding that have happened in particular areas of the of the city. You talked a lot about you know, some of

the things that are going to structurally that are going to be, you know, put in place to help mitigate this. What how do you anticipate? How long will it take for us out of flooding like based on the

infrastructure that we're putting in its just like, you know what, over the next 5 years, we're going to see very minimal or I don't even know that I'm just throwing something out there. And just with

what would we get to a point even with some of the heavy rainfalls that we have seen? When can we see us getting to a point where a lot of this is mitigated? So that's a very challenging question

answer primarily because of what climate change is doing to our storm know, we keep same 1000 year storm, which is really should be discussed a different way. But it's the probability of a storm given

a crane in a given year I have now lived through I think 4,000 year storms unknown, not quite 40. So that's yeah. So so obviously those are occurring just with a much greater a likelihood that whether

we will. I think it would be a question whether we'll ever be ready for that part of the of rain to have no impacts radar was showing. And what we've been doing really for the past 15 years now, it's

not longer is it's continuing to build more resilience in the face of those storms. As an example. Last AUGUST. Last AUGUST was very bad for for for the whole city and for specific parts of the city,

right? There was a lot of damage. There's a lot of very challenging if we hadn't done what we had done with the deep tunnel in the 80's and infrastructure and other store management at work that

amnesty and others have been doing. And we've been doing at the city for the 15 to 30 years before that, it would have been so much worse. And so I think that's the challenge, right? As we recognize

the public's desire for this not to be a problem at all. Right. But but we also know that the work we have done and are going to continue to do. We'll continue to make the community more resilient

going forward and we just need to redouble our efforts to to make that happen. How do we still support those residents that, you know, still experience flooding issues and didn't get help from?

Insurance companies with socks. Some got very little from fema, right? Yeah, I'd you know, is there anything mechanism, resources, whatever I don't know, is there anything put in place that we can you

know, that we should be sharing out to constituents experiencing such heavy loss. Yeah. So when they there are a couple folks in the health department that work on that element of that. The community

resiliency, part of it less on the infrastructure side, which yes, we are our valley with. But so I. I think there's they might be able to speak to a little better than I And I'd be happy to connect

you with them. But I do think that's one of the things that we're excited about with a citizen and resident group, which is about the title frame, the acronym frame. So we're excited with the frame

group is one of the things they've talked a lot about. He's building. That connectivity of support among neighborhoods support that could occur that might make the community quicker to bounce back

from challenges like this in the future. And so we're excited to work with them on those types of things and figure out what awesome. Thank you. I yield ok? Thank you. Thank you so much. Alderman

Scott Spiker just a couple of quick ones. With respect to green infrastructure and bios wells, we were early adopters of them in the Garden district. We have some areas I'm thinking of Parnell west of

27th slipping down towards Ramsey where we have super white terraces. But I think that's been looked at in the past. It are there areas that seem like prime candidates just looking from, you know,

driving down the street, walking down the street, but they have so much underneath them in terms of you don't want to dig out. That makes them not so good candidates because just driving through my

district, it seems like there's a lot more opportunity. I think we're whilst starting to open to hearing those ideas and thoughts again, because I think what we feel like we've taken in from AUGUST in

APRIL is again, that kind of redoubling of welcome to every nook and cranny looking at every opportunity in getting more creative that being said, you're right, that there's often utility conflicts

which could very, very expensive or there's contaminated soils, which can also be a challenge. But I don't know if, you know, putting with that specific location, nothing specific locations up. Chris

Myers engine charges here in its hunt. We do track everything that we look at so we can we get an idea of maybe a member of several years ago we did look at all the white opportunities summer. We do

track all those. But as the senator mentioned, yeah, we would always take some if you see something that looks like a potential, please send it over. We're happy to take a look at a further. Okay.

Have to be a little bit careful because if you put in a big bow swell and people can't get out upsets because it's a challenge With respect to the coordination with St I know watershed There is

culverts place and 6th Street down near Layton. Are we basically I want to make sure to get my residents plenty of notice it if something is even coming up a year out. But I haven't heard anything for

a while. So don't have to answer here because it's, I guess more individual question. But if you could just check on that and see if anything's coming down the and nasty. We actually just met

recently. I'm kk River as a whole. And of course, that section is part of Wilson Park Creek, which is tributary to kk River I would expect to hear something soon, actually. Okay. All right. Good to

hear just one. Make sure that folks know about. And there's the business down there. That's very successful. That would be impacted by taking up that area. So we want to make sure to give them plenty

of notice sometimes you're in advance for some other stuff. Cook thanks. Thank you. Sue or maintenance funneling into Alderman Peter. Very Alice, thank you very much. MADAM Chair. On the spot. But

these are pretty easy questions to answer. How many alleys were reconstructed in the 11th of the Mac district in 2026. Not in 2026. How many reconstruction? 2025? Believe it is not how many will be

reconstruction. 2027. I can check and get back to would be that each other medic district gets one every other year. We're not even doing that. There is certainly a there's no expectation or sumption

that a medic districts haven't even district to district. But still. Residents are very frustrated. I would love to have the city of Milwaukee taxpayers pay for half of the reconstruction cost to

replace my driveway. Right now, these are a little bit different, but this is a incredibly a sensitive topic for a lot of homeowners because they have limited. They have the struggle to get fair

access to their property. And right now we're on about a 400 year replacement cycle for alleys. Where is where is the light at the end of the alley? On this? Yeah. Them into all of that is correct.

The unit will certainly follow up with the big picture. It's resources question much like the local road program, right? We we would need more resources to move forward at the rate we would like to in

terms of an equity perspective the what I've gotten from the department is that we do want, Ali. It doesn't matter of the alley is 10 feet long were 1000 feet right. And I happen to have a number of

smaller, shorter alleys that are long past reconstruction needs and they get the same privatization is something that's 3 or 4, 5, times as long. That is concerning. So I really want to start at the

longest alleys, which MAY not be in the worship because that would be the biggest impact. My district. But that's not fair to the people that have really, really bad conditions. That's that's a fair

point. Will take that into consideration. Yeah, I do want to give a special shout-out. We talks in years past about. Stop grinding and the long delays for that. I have noticed with Cully, enjoy

driving through my district that many recently stumped trees have already been ground and restoration is underway. So I am very happy that on the progress we've made on that the flooded by the tsunami

that as part of the storm in al It's all good. I was just in alleys where infrastructure anything else on the run? But now those good. Good to point out, though. I think I'm has something exceptional

so you know, we're now on Alderwoman, Millie, like Alex, thank you. MADAM Chair. No question. This suggestion. Morris question of you on about. How to demonstrate the impact relief? I sit on the

sewage district and I know many of our projects are in combination the things are going right to the commission. But I thought was interesting was an e mapping. Floods from 2030, years ago. So

flooding now. And where projects have been visually see the impact. The last 2 decades of work, although it MAY not feel like you only get not a cause. And so you could really see the areas of that a

city that because of the projects that have been done, we're giving great relief from flooding. I wouldn't again, a song that project says that's what it might be. A few that are a little different.

But the ability to use the maps like that. I think in my video, communication, Fowler, something I think would be informative to members and to the public. Outstanding. I to think what about the sub

recently? I think on the Common Council floor, my office did and information pull out of the center as we continue our struggle with the challenges between flooding in my district, the responsibility

between the city St. And really constituents who are very frustrated feeling like they're being pointed in many directions when really there to try to figure out what they had water in their basement.

And and they're so scared about the future. Like a day like today, you know, we have rain all day. Can be really unsettling and I see them and taking a toll on them. Unfortunately, the impact was

larger than we had imagined. Because, again, this is what I'm talking about. Systems and a nasty had their own system. And I don't know that people are immediately call on the nasty. I think I feel

like it was call us, but they even our own office who had I think then reported it out. We didn't realize until we pulled it from a cilla that there are many that bypassed all of those and just one

right there and reported things like what basement is the subject line. And it was many, many more than we thought. And I feel like I had emailed you about this. How can we like like I just like we

can't be on the road to solve the problem. If we don't even understand the extent of it. And I'm not gonna drag everybody into what has been a pretty public dispute. I'm with my district St. I'm going

back and forth of, you know, people just seems like they didn't want to take responsibility because and with responsibility comes some kind of action that could cost money. But I'm very disturbed by

the different sets of data. So can you speak to that a little bit when where are you all looking at people reporting what basements? Like every calling that a flooding event. How are we looking at

that? Sure. So. Just at a high level, we are most definitely interested in we are the 3 most interested in interested in art is so we definitely want to be talking to each other. We've had these

conversations about making sure that cause it go to the embassies. What basement do get forwarded to us. They often do it sometimes is after the fact of the storm event. They MAY not necessarily make

it into the Acela system. It MAY just really become a paper record. So I think there's a gap there that needs to be closed for sure. I can in a year or 2 and we go back to look at that storm event.

We're most likely going to pull from your developed over 2. You're using that some of the stuff for these 30's areas of high. Yeah, that's a combination of a lot of things. Is the cell to the requests

that I get from the alders. It is kind of relations with residents. You know, attending some of these neighborhood meetings and talking to people saying, oh, yeah, that needs to be added to our list.

Okay. And then on that, can you remind me who's on the flood task force? Sure. Just likes not people like, yeah, Errol appointments or I'm sorry, I'm missing something. No, it's just technical staff.

So there's staff from dpw from and then county and county includes up parks, maintenance and and yeah, road maintenance consider when you're through some residents from the highly impacted areas could

be beneficial. And some point, I mean, it could understand why you're starting that way as well. So I think I do not have anything more this time. Anything else on sewer maintenance, ok? Others like

her super quickly just wanted Centers and Corey Tipton, Johnny, some spot always super responsive. Super quick. Any time the day or night and just appreciate their work day to a lot of good work in my

district and I'm sure the And the other outstanding questions or comments on sewer maintenance fund. Hearing none. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful day will now move on to dpw Administrative

Services Okay. Coming up, Department of Public Works Ministry of Services followed by operations and then Transportation fund. We'll begin with a budget director, Nicolle, that people kind of settle

and stuff. But we saw, but it's tough to like. You never left. Nicole, of the Budget Management Division commissioners still here. Like I said, it would be all day. And Mason Levy is back to present.

The slides for Public Works. Administration MADAM Chair members committee that Budget Amendment division Administration. 27 budget. All right. Total budget for the coming administration is just over

4.1 million dollars, which is an increase of $83,000 or 2% for 2027 total fte positions remain the same at 45. Budget by service. Again, total budget is 4.1 million dollars are 45. Here is our

financial and budget oversight. Human resources, services, administrative and admit it ministering contracts, including small this enterprise program in residential preference program process. Respond

to open records, request process permits and conduct safety training. So there's and positions total salary for 2026. Are just over 2.6 million Dodgers again as a increase of 2% or $57,000. The did

reorder reorganize some payroll staff financial services director classified to dw administration director after using positions remain the same and sellers increase again due to general see raises

and business operations classification. Operating operating equipment. A special funds on total is $345,000 which is the same as 2026. Professional services can continue to be their largest operating

spent. Sure the 157.5 thousand dollars. Some of that includes Atlantic training, drug and alcohol testing and temporary services staffing. Revenues. Total revenues for 2027 is 4.8 million dollars,

which is actually down $212,000 or 6%. Charged for service remain the same. And to anticipate you, sir, permit revenues decreased due to fewer new construction projects. With that, I'll hand it over

to commissioner and he can get more details on the main services. Okay. All right. Good afternoon, CHAIRMAN And committee members. So this is the administration department, the smallest of the 6

budget units within dpw. We were a small but mighty group and a lot of the core services. Right. And here are a lot of the back of the House. This is where we deal with payrolls. This is how we do

invoicing for all of our contracts. To contract administration get involved in a small business in our ppr price. And then also this gets into our media realm and then our special event permits and

then public right of way permit. So it's a lot of stuff going on there with a small group. So summer key performance indicators that we kind of go through his work days lost due to injury. And so

we've been trending in a positive direction over the past few years. One right now are about 5,000 workdays lost, which is still a high number. If you see kind of the lighter in the middle in 2020,

that was related to covid so that we had people offer multiple reasons, not necessarily injury, but they are out of work base and, you know, covid so a lot of this is due to a lot of the safety trip,

a train platforms we have implemented. You have just heard Atlantic train platform its an on-demand training system to get our employees knowledge of what to do and what not to do in the workplace.

And also our safety crews working with those individuals on a daily basis and also going through what we do is training with our management to actually give them the tools to succeed their jobs. The

other key performance indicator and the dpw admin is this is where we kind of track are spe in rpp goals of those 2 goals are usually set at 25 40%. That's why you see the 2026 school. I will tell you

that we will achieve and exceed that goal. If you look at 2025, actuals, we had 49% a small business enterprise program participants which was over the 25% as a goal and similar. We had a 54% of our

hours related to contracts that were rpp. So those are all positive numbers. I think that's do too us educating our contractors. But the contractor doing work on themselves to supply folks that live

in work in the city of Milwaukee to related to the jobs are doing in our city limits. I don't have any update because we are small. Lot of stuff is procedural. I did want to announce. I mean, we went

through budget last year. We had a financial services director. So what does that mean? I mean, for me, it comes into almost like a c f o for a large organization. The department does 500 million

dollars worth of work. And so we're trying to do is to try to streamline business operations work with the controller's office to figure out ways that we can generate revenue, streamline processes. So

Terry and Koski, who is behind me in the brown jacket there, she has come on board. Now we're in week 5, we think carries so it was a process. We interviewed the outside. So it's been a relief on my

behalf because I know a lot of accounting, but I wanted to be some one and a special field to do that. And there's been a lot of changes and hopefully as we can move forward, we'll see efficiencies in

the financial backbone as we go forward. Board. And then. The last one is our department demographics. You know, here we have a Brooks, a fifty-fifty. We look at females versus males are department. I

will tell you that most of the females in my department basically I run my shop and keep me alive. But that is for sure. So it's a very strong group and I appreciate all the work they do. They don't

get a lot of accolades because you don't see them up here in front of committee meetings. You don't see them out in public much. They do a lot of the dirty work behind the scenes. And we have 73% of

that still live in the gonna start with all the ruling cause. I just had fairly quick question. Special. There fee increases for some of the permits at all? I can tell. We're not are these are the

reflection of what we did in 2026. With some special event values that we increased this year that had went through counsel ready. Ok? So anything from like block parties to street closures to any of

that stuff. It's the same. We have right now. Yes, a block parties are still free. So we're not charging for those other events that we had tightened to yet closures. Special vans, parades and direct.

That correct? It's the same like not even a increase in 2027 cause. He made the adjustment to 26 to handle the easements to. What sort of these and slake for. I don't know like a power company. Dpw

U.S. We do you sense as well that we have are those increasing? That's a whole. I think the usually negotiation between whatever the property is and we get the city attorney's invoke involve with that

and the rental. James, Washington, I dpw coordination manager. So when process begins. That starts Development. So you're talking about these. Are you talk about the fees for acquiring an easement or

yes, we energies yet? So that that the did increase last year from I believe was 13, 50 don't call me at to about 2000. But again, departments in development. Here. If you recall last year, we had

kind of that sidewalk fee increase. I think it was sidewalk dining. I think the guess. And that number was like a little larger than we had expected. Is there anything like that here that we need no

fee increases for getting up Millie, like Cox them. It's not really didn't have questions There have been times where easements, particularly for utility comes have come before us when the wreck with

the recommendation of no fee. And generally speaking through conversations with the council members they've often come back to us with a fee might be minimal, but it's still the fee. I would just

suggest that on the easements, at least what utility companies that we always start from a fee perspective. And if by some reason we shouldn't do that, come to the table. Ready to explain that to us.

But it's just what same time and energy. If you're in a second from a position. Right. Thank you. Alderman. Backing on that when we do have a utility easement. Is it for the with the pipe? Where is

there? What is the minimum with for what? Because it because frankly, if we do grant an easement that makes that entire that limits entire parcels future develop ability, right? Yeah. So it depends on

what utilities going to run. Usually the easements are tied to. How can you maintain that utility within their? So let's say if you had a 5 inch pipe you might need 36 inches of any sense. You can

actually get someone physically down there to replace or repair that particular utility. And so that's kind of what judges that and it's usually set by, you know, whatever safety codes are tied to

that particular utility. So it's kind of generally how it is now. Not all most utilities that you are correct. If you put a utility within the public right away or even a parcel that the city owns

that restricts it doesn't restrict putting a parking lot or surface things like that. But actual physical structure there is restrictions tied to that. So that might be more than just adjustment or

cost Valley. I want a cost but value for the easement. We could be. Yes. So if that means that we need to put a easement in right in front of. Of the museum. For example, the changing the design of

the new Easy. We're going to build could cost many more times, whatever that. That easement fee was. Yeah, I do want to express a little caution because the city has utilities to so we have sewer

water underground conduit that we get easements for that are outside of city property as well. So it's you know, if we think about trying to increase fees that could come back at us But you are

correct. Charging, fair for fair value is something that everyone want to ask a little bit about knocked down, pull knockdowns. It does administrative services manage that? Yes. So our shop is the one

who processes all knocked onto the back side. Yes. So do we have a team of investigators that look at police report the blue car not not to pull down the blue car is responsible for the damage to city

infrastructure. And we're going after that person's insurance company or that property owner that was responsible for the accident. Yes, so we get police reports. And so what our job is to do is one.

What insurance is it having insurance pays for some of these and something? There's a delay in getting the 2 is if they're not sure, can we still go after the individuals and 3, we actually retain Co

lost service to basically try to recuperate some of those dollars. And that percentage is not as high as we want it by any means. And so this is where we get some of those line items to sit within the

street lighting fee to offset those costs to where we don't have information on lockdown. But anyone that we know of police report or identified, we recoup those dollars. What's the success rate on

that? Department explored other methods or other ways are hiring an outside company to pursue that on a fee basis so that they're motivated to find more of these were be successful and be successful

in recovering more of these damages. I sun just what we get for information and knocked down so I could hire someone else. But that doesn't mean they're gonna have the information of who actually did

the work. And so we need the police report and proof that this individual did it. So if I was driving on the road, I impacted a street light pole and no one finds in the evidence. How do I get my

responsible for the ones we That's that's a whole nother round. Yes, that discussing cameras in the public right away. I don't know if that's obviously, we look at any sort of crime in the public

right of way. All right. Thank you very much. Make it a crime one. I have to label it as a. Sensitive Kremlin. Okay. Alderman Scott Spiker. Thank you, MADAM Chair. So you had mentioned something about

the new I know the title changed for your financial person who was just brought on board. You mentioned how useful it would be to you. What are like one or 2 things that. Either have to be distributed

throughout the department. Responsibility was that are now centralized or something that now the new person can take on that wasn't being done for. Yes. So I really I made we created this position

last budget had used pieces of infrastructure operations to offset the sellers. There's no increase in the budget. And so the long-term goal of this position is to be the overall housing of all

financial stuff that goes through dpw. The relationship between the budget office and helping make budget decisions to come to his office and how to get, you know, basically uncollected debt that was

there, but also to centralize business operations. So right now we're broke up into multiple different areas. So I have administration, I have folks, the infrastructure of folks getting into

operations, the transportation for their everywhere. And so the goal, long term, which is going to take, it's not going to happen overnight is a silly bring those into one central unit. And so there

can be cross training and overlap and we'll see what that looks like for positions long term and basically deficiencies. A lot of the things we're doing right now is evaluating and we kind of had a

discussion this morning terrorizes, you know, is required by federal law state statute or city ordinance. Those are things we have to abide by. But are there other things that we have put on ourselves

that slow the process down? And so that's what we have to evaluate and entire thing because we're not getting more people. We talk about this all the time. We have to create efficiencies and use

technology to do that. And that's kind of what this petition was created for. Actually feeds into my next question, which is we heard the new director of say that, you know, shes a million would be

efficiencies ready to go once somebody leaves. And there's an opportunity to exercises efficiencies that might, you know, some weird for people coming from outside government that you wait for that in

your department's. Is that how things work as well? And I charitable interpretation of what was said yesterday. But I have heard that before and director Kovacs said when we were losing folks by the

bunch is before salaries were You're losing positions kind of non strategically because you lose people as opposed to doing something more intentional. So for department as big as yours, are there any

strategic you're not getting more bodies generally over time. Diminishment of services unless Discover efficiencies. So some of them might be technological. But our is there. An approach is looking

for where dpw asked incur as a commissioner have to seeking out these reforms. As you know, the 3rd biggest department. That that's the that's the biggest thing that I actually get to do. And so I

don't wait until decisions like making a financial service start. I don't wait for folks to retire or leave you to move on from the city to make a decision. Those are kind of incorporate on a daily

basis. Department. We are so large. I wish I could look at every single section every single day, but that's not feasible. And so what we've done in the past and you know, and this is one, obviously

director for us was and dpw. We would focus on groups within operations and then we'll focus on groups within infrastructure to create efficiencies because we are so large. We're trying to basically

attack these and subgroups. But the one thing that I'm excited about and that and bring the financial services director cause that affects the whole entire unit, you know, and I know I won't call

Bill, but he's sitting here, too. We've had many budget analyst. We're trying to make efficiency some make the books correct. Long term. And for Bella said that this is the one I'm focusing on this

year is the finance is because I think it's the most important. It's probably the most overlooked and our department because it's just passed through. And so I think this is where we can see a lot of

efficiencies are things that we haven't been getting paid for in the past. And last question so started or who is way up here going to come way down here for the special events permit system. We're

coming into Halloween season. We want to encourage folks to do anything they can for community building. That's an asset to our districts in our cities to have people coming established those bonds

and it makes for a stronger neighborhood. We had the discussion a year or 2 ago fees associated with that. So nighttime trick-or-treating is a big deal, not just in bay view, but in other areas of the

city as well. Folks like to shut down the street sometimes to to keep things safe. That's not technically a block party, although it can kinda, we need to block party Ish 5 things. If somebody wants

to do that over an area, what I've been told is you kind of have to have each street signed up. So it's kind like brush piles. You can't put out too much at once, but you can keep some by your crash

and put out a little bit of time. That's kind of the approach we seem to be taking with these neighborhood while trick or treats that if everybody does there Street, basically you can do it for free.

Otherwise there's a cost. So is there any and this is rationale for that. I know you don't want to, you know, if there is a really big event that requires a lot of dpw work. Then you want to recover

your costs. But this is a trick or treating. Yeah, this is. I think we've talked in the past related to the trick or treating is probably the one that comes up the most and it's expanding more and

more into neighborhoods that want to do it at night or a different times in the regular schedule. Time. And so, you know, we've had a block party, you know, 47 place. If you want a block party, we

want people to get together. We want neighbors to do this. But a lot of these requests coming have been getting larger. So we're talking about entire neighborhoods. And so for me, I don't mind waiting

a lot of the stuff. It just depends on the impact is if I have to pull out hundreds of their kids to do that, that's where the cost comes in. So it just depends on Rick Cooper eating those costs and

that's what we've stuck with in the past. So what you're saying if you have 5 different neighbors and 5 party. That's how we visualize it. If they do it as one, it's more fun event. That's kind of how

we're separating them. I think it's a discussion long term. What we want to subsidize for the community when it comes into and Halloween parties. And so that we just look at it from how much is coming

out of our budget? Really the some of the stuff it's we're not talking millions of dollars by any means. But it is a cost. Yeah. And I mean, it is a cost. But if if it does get to the decision point

where folks are like, well, scratch working with the city's too hard, I'm just going to give it up that that would be a cost for the something I just want to keep on the front burner. Ok? Thank you.

MADAM Chair. Any or anything from history along those lines. Commissioner have their big conversations in the past about because in my district we do a ton of block parties. And again, we want the

community I I want every block into a block party. We want those sort of community building things. But have we ever thought about to something nominal? I'm like a $10 app. You know with it, it's a

it's a test. It's 10 bucks right? Most people do this once a year. I have very few groups that do you know, a couple during the summer in very few. But most people do their annual, you know, block

party as a way to again support. I don't know if this is something that's been talked about in the past hasn't been something nominal still doesn't cover cost because, you know, you're talking about

staff time. You're talking about, dropping off, picking up that sort of thing. So we were there will never be a time where we're like, oh, yeah, we're just gonna recover costs because we know that's

going to eliminate people from participating. But something nominal has that ever been thought about? You know, it has been discussed in some previous budgets and it's always been in the interest of I

think the administration, even elected officials just to continue to promote just like you had sessions to get the community have these block parties. You know, I be interesting for us to do a little

deep dive and the number we've had over the been the same, it's fine because I just don't think we want to discourage from him at fee on to that, I think that still could discourage. I mean, from a

revenue perspective, Obviously, I think as a municipality want to offset any cost they can, but from a compete community engagement portion, that's where it is always stopped. I think there's been no

appetite to kind of had it even a small fee to that party. Would you be able to JANUARY or well? No wind or block parties typically. Of winter parties and okay, so JANUARY. I would love to know what

number sure we had for block parties for the year 2026. And then if we can also have it for 2025 just so that we have some kick, something comparative literally went up and it went down. It flat lined

whatever. But that would be awesome to know. I think it would be interesting as well for us to ask some of our neighborhood groups and those folks that participate, you know, everybody that sense and

their block party application hasn't email address. I would love to maybe even do a survey to ask them, hey, if we, you know, charge a $10 just, you know, throwing out a number, you know, would

preclude you from, you know, hosting your block party just again. It's just to a temperature just so that we have something to, you know, some something to work with. And the last question that I have

is centered around payments for come when caught lower paying How does it and I know different contractors MAY be paid in different ways. I'm assuming, right? So before they start the work, they need

20% down in the middle that like how to how those payments work for contractors. Yes, so there's a couple there's does south. We're talking about infrastructure projects. This is a country because

obviously we have service orders of the city uses small things under $50,000. We have authority but a normal sewer water, anything else? Yes. So the city does basically open did process to do that, we

can just pick who we want. And so we are a little bit community. So we pick the lowest bidder that will win that award. They are required to put a 10% big Biden to basically solidified themselves. As

part of that, we documentation that's in a big package. I won't go into details, but it's pretty thick that they have to go through things are tied to the. So once they're worried the contract with

their items in the contract that are front and depending what they are so could be like a mobilization costs. That could be certain things that just generalized. And then what happens is as

construction project, they get paid on items as they are installed. So our construction inspectors will monitor that going. Okay. Here's paper and one if completed Exa mountain so that countries pay,

does it go through the challenge he has is when it gets to the end of the contract and close out. And so that's something that's one of the biggest tests were working on for the financial side. And

it's a two-way street. Sometimes we have delays on our side. There's other times we will have a prime contractor that won't submit the proper paperwork and we have to follow up. So we do have spe rpp

requirements at their school system. It to us. We have tangible data that is sometimes a delayed and it's a challenge for them as well. Prime contractors do a great job. But when you hire a bunch of

sub, sometimes there. Lauren, don't get a lot of that information over. So there's always a delay in payment there. We also hold payments sometimes related to the completion of work that could be

punch items. I think we mentioned that an infrastructure that we want to make sure that they're finishing the job before And so a lot some of these clothes out and they're smaller amounts of project.

We can hold a $25,000 for a period of time. So we get all of the actual information that we need to close it out. And so it's something we've been working for some time. And this is one of the areas

that we're focused on right now. Is this the efficiency of project I have met with many contractors over the past year. There has been a delay and this is what we're trying to figure out is to speed

up the process related to that one. And I think one of the reasons why I'm asking in regards to that close out process is so that those items that final inspection or however it's looked at right

items are still left there or that the site needs to be cleaned up for, you know, just some of those tangible things that we could tie into. I'm presenting them with that final payment on to, you

know, those sort of the punch unless the punch items or do we do not release that even into contracts to go through that process? So that's part of that negotiation between our construction staff and

the contractor. Once that is settled, then it goes into payment apps which starts another process, which is all the other And those items are typically later helped write like a Republican pollution.

Yep, correct. It. Thank you. Thanks, MADAM Chair. Okay. Anything else from Ministers Services. Anything else? And I don't see one on. MADAM Chair, you have the more the ministry extra carte fees or

the extra carts. 400 more households have requested extra carts. I think Department public works okay. Seeing no more requests to speak on that item. All we're down to our final 2 sections. Injured

Department of Public Works operations. That's sanitation services and for stream. Thank you. MADAM Chair will be no personal changes on our end. Terrell has team member. Then they come up. But Mason

Levy will be presenting these slides for Mason, get ok, thank you. Chair members committee misled Management Division, a plan to operations budget and I'll turn over to jail for commissioner and his

team. We need more you could be operations. Budget totals just over 113.7 million dollars, which isn't in which is an increase of 5.4 million dollars or 5% sellers increase minimally. And while

operating income increases with experience need an inflationary pressure, a special funds increased with additional costs related to telematics demolition, salt and lot maintenance overall positions

and increased by 12 while own own nfts decreased by 21.4 But by service from all sources, twa operations, budget is a 130.2 million dollars with 14.5 million source from Capitol for fleet replacements

for for for Capital Service services. In addition to 1.9 million dollars in grants and recycling ground. So he's in positions. So as for 20 to 27 total, 46.5 million dollars, which is an increase of

$271,000. 271,000 or 0.6% So as increase sellers, salary increases can be attributed to the human resources and business operations classification as well as a 4% increase from 2026. Again that he

decreased by 21 and positions increased by 12 changes include new positions to support them, went in the implementation and use of telematics and field supervisors in each quarter district equipment,

operators for raising revive program, increased by 5 as the in-house demolition program increases the removals to about 100 fleet transit repair tech for vehicle services. Tech and sanitation reduces

funny person. 26 equipment operators, moving on to operating. Total operating budget for the puppy operations is 18.7 million dollars, which again, is an increase of 2.7 million dollars or 17%

operating locations are adjusted annually with experience and general increase with inflation, tools and parts for vehicle repair increases by $172,000 to 6 million vehicle repair services, which is

outsourced repair increases by 1.1 million dollars to 2.8 fuel increases by 1 million to 4.8 million dollars and vehicle rentals remains the same at $780,000. All right. Equipment, total equipment.

Budget for operations is 3.6 million dollars, which is an increase of one percent or sorry, increase 1 million dollars or 38% fleet legalize these funds to replace garbage and recycling Packers that

will shop equipment and ev Chargers Funding for sanitation will replace approximately 24,000 garbage and recycling carts and 4th, we will continue the replacement of Moore's and trailers. Moving on to

special funds, a total special funds for 2027 just over 24 million dollars, which is increase of about 1.3 million or 5%. Allocations are again, are based on need. And we adjust those quarterly we

just those annually, according to what Derby operations does including new special fund for 2027, which is for which hold vehicle telematics funding, which is $850,000. And this is an annual cost.

Some of the ones here going to be. Our small budget, which is 2.7 million dollars, which pays for about 28.4 thousand tons which is 16.4 million dollars, which is about the same as it was last year,

which pays for about 242,000 tons of waste at fifty-two dollars and $0.14 per time. It also houses recycling processing cost the ways costs higher costs and other smaller sanitation related items.

Demolition, which is raising revive. We do have a special fund for that which totals about $550,000 which is an increase of about $280,000 for 2027. And this is the special fund that houses tonnage

for demolition feel equipment items like that. All Revenues. Revenues for 2027 total. 105.6 million dollars, which is an increase of 4.5 million dollars. We're 5%. The high. The drivers of these

revenues are mainly driven by increases in the major fees like stormwater fee and solid waste fee sideways fee increases by 3% to 52 million dollars. Snow and ice be increased by 3%. 12.1 million in

the storm. Water transfer will increase by 4% to 28.2 million. These at the self-help centers also increased to 3.1 million dollars in this is to help recover rising costs at those facilities. Total

capital allocation for dwi operations is 14.5 million dollars split between borrowing 6.1 million dollars in cash revenues of 8.4 million Forster utilities utilizes funding from the sewer fund to

replace 3,500 trees removed 2,500 storms and treat about one 3rd of the 25,000 ash trees annually. In addition, in addition, 40 will be standing up a new contract that recruiting program to addressed

pretty backlogs. This new program is funded at $400,000. And we will again see an allocation of 10 million dollars, which is split between the sewer fund and borrowing and this is to replace.

Vehicles, dpw related vehicles. With that, I'll hand over to. A mission is to. Good afternoon again. Commissioner Public Works truck rescue. What we'll do here handed off to time later. Who's the

director of operations who go through the quick slides of each one of those separate units. And then as we kind of finish or slides because the questions we can bring up the subject matter, it kind of

like to speed the process up. So with that, I will hand it over to Tom to go through the quick up slides. Thank you. Tumbling and director of operations. So starting with the services for sanitation,

additional services, we are leveraging technology to enhance our core services that is primarily and implementation so the the route where not only optimize is the the route, the garbage collection

and recycling is going on. But they also allow for more service on those additional services picking up, like, for example, picking up more brush and doing so more efficiently. Excuse me. It works off

a resident request similar to a service request for a driver marked requests that would make it back to management to be able to rout. The the new resident leave pick begging option continues this

year. Again, that's an option. So residents can rake to the curb as they had in the past where there's an option to bag their leaves in a paper bag and placed it on the curb. First 2 items that we've

seen come to fruition already. There's there's a district 13 requests that come through the other day and it was a resident that had some in a service request and 25 or so minutes later, there's a

sanitation staff. They're picking up their bags, leaves. And it's just what route where has allowed our staff to do is handle these things live. And he was in the area number one, but assign those

requests live in the moment during the day like that. The drop-off center fuel increases. So they'll see an increase of approximately 35% to account for operating cost increases. This is moving

towards cost recovery and also to keep services. As with the monitor, keeping services as affordable as possible. Continuing to subsidize costs of the smallest loads of what would be the household

drop-offs. Next on 2 fleet. So work force development. We have hired a Milwaukee Fire Department. You Fleet Fleet Apprentice. They have been in place for, I believe about a year. The fleet

electrification. So we have continued with electric vehicle Fully electric vehicles in service. We have a total of 57 and an increase of 17 as it in 2025. We also have increase our level 2 ev Chargers

by 20 in 2022. 5 to a total of 37. This is all a collaboration between the mpd dpw in the Eco office. The installed. So it started with the pilot and snow related routes or vehicles only and now it's

expanded to all of the vw vehicles. I could use a our company. Yeah, we'll go into details and some of that. Purchased to try to get into vehicle usage. And so this is where we start analyzing or

vehicles. It does have other tangible. Plus is related to this. This offer allows us to tell where the vehicle was if they're actually dispatching salt or not one, that's where it started from. But

now with the rest of the vehicles got stuck, a front-facing camera. It's got us out of a lot of. Legal situations where we get blame for certain things. It also tells of the vehicle is disabled. It

helps with for the maintenance of the fleet. So what we're really trying to do here is it's helping us right-size our fleet. We've had many instances. We're stuck going to tell us will be only was at

5% and to start pulling these and then also locating where there aren't any time of the day. Sorry, MADAM Chair, So starting with community engagement, the Milwaukee Urban Forestry Fund has allowed or

produce 180 new trees planted in 2 years. The career of educational outreach. So we visit high schools, colleges and other been 6 events in Twenty-twenty 6, including 2 city Hall events. Arbor Day

Programs. Big Truck Day doors open Milwaukee, lot of community engagement. A lot of energy there. Everybody knows big Truck day. And that's a that's a major hit in especially with forestry equipment,

the climate and Equity Plan initiative. So the 12 Million Dollar I Re Urban and Community Forestry Grant it covers multiple government, cbo partners 100% work is in disadvantaged communities. And some

of the the sources of the funding goes to contract a street tree pruning, a street tree stopping and planting the painting and tree planting and then public education and outreach. It also workforce

development, which is obviously very big to us. We have a green through the eco office. I want to shout out a for employee Recognition Award for emerging leader. So Cole and he just got married as

well. So Next with our performance indicators, as you see that much anticipated change, pretty expected for that. And if there are any specific questions about these, we can handle it afterwards. I

sections managers. Department demographics and too much change from the usual and you see a vacancy rate of 12%. We have around, I believe 50. The 57 total equipment, I wish we can discuss more in

detail. Yeah, that's it for the slides. Okay. Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you for keeping that. Very succinct. So you can maximize questions do up to start this. We get this section and transportation

fund next is Alderman Charles and more. You're going to start this up for us. If you read either has to go back to I am okay. Forestry. I think trying to just understand logistically how it works. I

think it's one of for particularly for our district to sort of get it services that we feel are sort of low hanging fruit. I need to sort of understand. How it works with the department when it comes

to just some basic things such as just tree trimming and, you know, when residents reach out to us, it takes a it just takes an extremely long time for things to get done. And I don't even know if

there's like a dashboard to say, ok, this not, you know, this neighborhood is going to have their tree trimming very similar to how we did the leaf collection. You know, people knew people were able

to go into this dashboard to see when the service was going to take place. How do we sort of help mitigate with our residents when things are going to be done, especially that those low hanging fruit

as just simply just trimming, you know, our trees, not even removing a tree. You know, they call us for that, too. But but the other, you know, things that should be service more regularly. And so

have Aaron, who is Yasser Urban Forestry manager, explains some of things. And there's a lot of historical conversations related to the urban Forest as itself and many different through the details of

like the printing process. What we're trying to do in the future to try to to mitigate some of these things. But it's we know it's there. But I think the transparency, transparency, as we've talked

about, it's going to be, I think something that's crucial in the beginning. Like when is someone to expect to see something in to Cau Forestry services manager. So questions. We just actually were

reviewing some of our service timelines to see like just updated. Wonder what's the the latest someone can expect to wait for any one of our services based on the last 3 years and pretty, especially

when it comes to service request, meaning somebody said there is like, you know, branch robbing the roof of my house or, you know, there's soccer's growing up and lacking whatever, not what everybody

that need to be addressed but don't rise to the level of it's going to fall. There's an imminent hazard that's going to cause a lot of harm. So has mentioned already and we went through the

presentation. There is a new capital account this year for about $400,000 for capital printing. And that specifically targeted to decreasing the wait time that people have for service requests related

to valid printing concerns. So that is the branches are actively touching the roof there, you know, blocking or obscuring the parking lane or whatever, that there's valid concerns. But right now, our

average is about 3 to 6 months on average, meaning that can skew longer than 3 to 6 months for the average. It's 3 to 6 months before a request could be completed. Yes, for one for I would. I would

call like a 9 requests for printing. Okay. Printing would go into places their service requests that we did for, you know, come look at it today, please. And then there's our cycle pruning. Got it.

Cycle pruning is once every 6 years we inspect all the trees in the city are and one tree. Any given tree would be inspected once every 6 years. Okay. It's 12 inches in diameter or smaller. It'll be

it's larger than 12 inches, then that Mike on another list to be like to be a dress, maybe once every 15 years. And that the pretty cycle is something that I'm reviewing that our department is

reviewing to see really what is the best way we can apply resources. But in the meantime, and also recognizing that 3 to 6 months maybe operates every year is a long time to wait for a valid service

request. The capital printing would cut that time in a little more. A little more than half in like some set of 3 to six-month average would be like one and a half to 2, 2, and a half month average.

Wait time. For 400,000 and that MAY be more than that because we might not just cutting are completely. We're also testing with the market capacity is for this because that would be done by a

contracted And with that, Ari Grant, we have a lot of companies are already engaged in other large scale pruning or removal or something operations. And so I don't want to get too far ahead. And then

now it's we're in worse shape, that's what we're looking at because of the contracted work, we don't necessarily have to work force to be able to accommodate, you know, looking at how we support the

entire city, right? Not another current. We can't really scalp under current level. Yeah. With internally, ok, and you will have in turns as well. I mean, how many interns to you all typically? The

interns are college and turns and that's, you know, 5 or maybe 4 to 6 a summer. I thought that really does make a dent in production. That's more of an employment score. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Okay.

And that's the that's all the capacity. The the department is able to support 5 to 6 in terms of summer I wouldn't say that, but I would you're looking if you're looking for production, that that

wouldn't be the area that I would we're recommending to increase really like her. In your boots on the ground. The people are making it happen We're not. I'm just thinking about, you know, providing

more opportunities to officer get people into the party line. I know we do college students. I don't know if there's any do we have one for high school students? We And forestry program. Yeah, we do.

We have youth are bres as well. And I also want to point out, too, that the we have a number of apprenticeship. The others, Urban Forestry Service, apprenticeship. And then there's the pre

apprenticeship and has this year happy to share that we're able to actually hire someone from the first pre apprenticeship cohorts. A market finally got a little bit different from that labor. That's

awesome and happy cohorts been going on. So we do is we actually partner with all of our external folks. And so service. Some of the other ones. It's a very but a very successful programming thing for

sure. Is that a great job and workforce development and create a pipeline and some of those models as we're trying to go outside of forestry into Google service technicians and other realms, where we

see that that we got to create a better our local schools as well. But it's a great model to go by for the youth Many young people are typically in that program. It's similar monas. The interns maybe

like, you know, 5 on average. And these are also positions that are currently funded through the ira Grant We're going to be looking to bring those into our operating budget. When one is there a way

for us to begin to get data you know, and again, this is over based on starting the program this year, 3 years later, you know, we're able to hire bike. Yeah. I think if we can figure out how to start

right scene because again, we want to see is this is it successful? Is it not? Do we need to agree front? So if we can start to get some data points, I can tell you even just this year, the first time

it was possible to of our youth, our bus apprentices were promoted and are performing well in our Come on. Let's go again. City is such a great place to have these spaces to provide these

opportunities for young people to really go into So I love that I would love to do continue to see how that how that works. I just wanted to make sure that, you know, know, are ways that I think it's

just information. If if we're able to say, hey, you know, Bill, you know, take care that within 60 days. I think it makes them feel a lot better because it's like, you know, they they wait a couple

weeks and they think, oh, well, this is this is simple. They just need to come in, cut a few leaves or could a few branches, right? Yeah. So you know, figuring out a way for us to be able to

effectively communicate, you know, with them to say, you know, here's the dashboard or hears the way that you can find out what your current you when your tree and to be pruned eccentric. Yes, so that

we can sort of, you know, cut out the middle person to provide because a lot of times our residents there just simply looking for information. You know, when how how can this one can this be done? How

can it be best be done? You know, that sort of thing and we try to be that go between person. But if their systems that we can put in place to help mitigate that, that would be awesome. That's all I

have one for street. But I wanted to also we're back into. They're I say Crossing my fingers this year. I'm just what are what are we going to do to help? Talk to commissioner, please talk to me what

it because now, you know, folks are I'm already getting earlier about, you know, now you want to buy Alex, like, Hey, do we have any extra bags left over? So how are we looking to to leaf collection

season this year. Yeah. So I know there's some ptsd from last season. I would there's been a lot of conversations even in the middle of JULY. So as we noticed, the trees are starting to change. And

they're starting to change quickly. Yeah, I think as time had mentioned, we've already started collecting. And so the process this year is one. We want folks to malt because that's the number one

thing. If they can mulch. That is fantastic. That takes it over the right away. That keeps it within their property limits. But I know everyone doesn't want to do that. So the second option is the

mechanical option which we've been doing for years. And commissioner, when you say most people can simply we know that remote right over it, Correct? It's a spokes that don't have a lot of leaves.

It's a great option. Some people that have many, many trees, it MAY be burdensome. So the second option is the mechanical which we've been doing for years, allowing folks to basically rake their

leaves out into the roadway, a foot off the curb line. I want to emphasize that because that really is what lets water flow behind the piles. You. We then come by many times during the season and

basically consolidate those polls and remove them. The new option is obviously the big option. And so, you know, we had lots of conversations of mandating bags, not we're not mandating bigs. Many

meetings were giving folks options to pay. And so there's been kind of it's been mixed feelings on this. And so some folks want to do it. They don't want the leave city in the roadway. They want to

get them rid of them and have this option. A lot of other communities have done this in the past. And so this year's me a lot of data grabbing. So he piloted this in spring after we had the snow that

had occurred earlier in 2025. And so we're extending that process as it was quite successful. It's still allow this begging option. And at the end of the season will evaluate what percentage of

households are begging, which ones are not and what the impact the overall operation is. But we do want to emphasize there's all 3 options. I will say, though. If the if the city of Milwaukee does

have a significant snowstorm prior to the lease coming down, it will be an issue. Yeah. Some of the things we're doing this year's because we have telematics we have cameras and vehicles. We're going

to be doing time. Shots 3, you're going. This is what it looks like. OCTOBER first, all the trees are airlines on. Here's what looks like maybe midway through the month because it's just a show. We

can't just go in, shake the trees and have leaves come off and it's for the issue. So we are at the mercy of Mother Nature all things point to that were supposed to have a leader snowfall. But you

never know. Last year, Mother Nature was not kind to us. In many ways. Early snowfalls, flooding, et cetera. But this year, we're just trying provide that extra option and we'll see how it goes. And

obviously, if people are questions, you know, we do have a Web page set up and within dpw operations that go in and see the different methods. And I say, bay, if you want to one thing clear, we are

not accepting plastic bags. Paper bags of people see, we just want to make sure that we're more an environmentally bags can be most in with the lease is we process that them and leaves are picked up

in a separate operation. You might see a packer out there picking up the least, but they're only putting that in there. They're not having mixing that with the city. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. Thank

you so much for that. And one of the residents share that the portal from last year. As far as the areas where you all will go for leaf collection. Is that up Okay. Perfect. Thank you so much for

that. Will make sure to relay relay that information back to our constituents. Probably maybe end on this one illegal dumping. So we do have a legal dumping task force. It's going ok, but I did. And

the only reason why I say it's going ok is because there are things that there are recommendations from the from an external advocacy group that put some really great recommendations together. Some of

them had budgetary impacts such as you know, one free day a month, right, that you can go and dumb things at our. Centers are dropped. Thank you. Are like something at a drop-off centers what I see

that the budget has had gone up a little bit because of to to support that we're continuously trying to figure out ways to mitigate illegal dumping with cameras to try to catch perpetrators there,

certain areas that are just prone to them. Quite a few of us have experienced this in our in our districts is there anything that you all are looking to support us with when it comes to illegal

dumping and how do we addressed a lot of those concerns that, you know, our constituents have been having. Yeah, I think we're open to any suggestions that I think, you know, we have the same pain

that obviously the community does and so does elected officials because it's extra work that our folks have to know, I'm curious to see some of the recommendations out of the task force itself. I

would love to send it to you so that you can say yes, no, maybe at, you know, just to see how we can address it or make it a part of our budget yet. I think it's a yes or no thing. It's like what is

the impact yet? It as we discuss it here, going that we can do that or low hanging fruit that they go don't impact the budget is much like 3 days. And I think that's been discussed a couple of times

now, I think which we've talked about it internally, but I would be curious because I just want to I like to hear what the task force has or what they've heard from the communities that helps us out

as well. We have ideas internally that we've discussed and to touch base to say what can we do? We just don't want illegal dumping either. I that there's been a great partnership with the nsa in. I

know there has some, you know, infractions and some folks that have been caught. But that's just a small what's dumping and littering as a whole impacts. Not only what we standpoint. It also affects,

you know, regional flooding and surface flooding when garbage just kind of goes into a catch basins. It's all tied into one. But we're open to a discussion and see what those pros and cards are really

to each one of the suggestions. Perfect. And let me go back really quick for the drop-off center. One of my residents shared that their only to drop off leaves. There's only 2 spaces like you pull up.

And then there's only 2 spaces where you can don't believes they were asking. Is there any way to increase that were more than 2 vehicles can calm just to the Because, again, it's just it's seasonal.

Is there a way to add more, you know, maybe pull up area so that more vehicles can come and drop off. Drop-off leaves. Require sanitation services manager. What dropping off leaves is not something we

typically have had a high brush certainly in. And so we do have a much larger number of boxes that are dedicated for brush, ok? And so if we had over if we had a demand out that the areas are

directing for leaves, technically we could move into a brush box because it's it. It's it's all going to get Com posted. Could order and keep things. Yes, separate. And then we get the kind of

separate waits on this is brush. This is that. But we have know, move people around a kit folks want to take their abuse of the center that helps the entire city. Then they're not they're not in a bag

or not. Nothing in there are folks need arises that the department would make those alternatives. MADAM Chair, I will stop there. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Alright. Aldermen Scott Speicher operations

here. Thank you, MADAM Chair. Out with respect, I guess as long as we have sensation at the table and we're talking about self-help center, I think about this up. During the revenues part. So for

raising these fees, understand, first of all, the intent is not to raise it on your average homeowners coming in with a load in that car. That's not going to be affected. I had a concern much as when

we introduced a fee a few years ago. I think Laura Daniel Swiss have ops pectin for waste tires. And then there was the concern that people are just going to start dumping waste tires. So do we have

similar concerns about how to deal with the contractor space and do you have any way to work with our partners and ems and other places to see if there is an uptick in illegal dumping, especially near

the areas of the self-help center of people. If this does go through and prices ramp-up of people see it and then drive as far away as is close to dump it and a quiet spot. Yeah, I think as we go

through posts, fee increases to evaluate if we've seen that we had. We first implemented fees. We didn't see the difference was it was the same, unfortunately. So even with the fear not fear, the

illegal dumping is still rampant. But yes, as we go through, we can evaluate the volumes that are getting dropped off at the drop-off centers or you don't have workers. We have related to illegal

dumping as we move through 27. Okay. Mentioned tires. I just want to clarify for the public to that. We do not charge. We accept up to 5 tires and we don't charge for that item. There were we had a

charge on that for a brief period and 2019 or 2020 and then with with, you know, just council feedback and so on. We subsidize that completely. And we still have a lot of tire dumping, right? Yeah,

yeah. I just wanted to flag that because that was something the out most of the because was right when I came in and told her and had that concern. So yeah, we discontinued that church with respect

to. Constant thing I get especially in the summer as concerns about a liquid waste from sanitation but you get to a certain point in the alley and then it seems like it's always the same constituents

who gets a big pile of smelly stuff and they talk about. I had one, I think sanitation worker who lived in the city but worked for Greenfield and have a different experience with what they do. I know

that's been a challenging one over the years. We haven't come up with really great solution. One is that caused by folks basically putting liquids in their garbage that they should be putting in there

and then it just accumulating till the truck says one and dumps it out 2, are we able to do anything with constituents there? How bad would have to be before we would send somebody out to do something

about it? And 3. So what's the cause? Could we remedy after the fact and then 3 is what can we do before the fact to know dpw has gone out there in some circumstances and passed out fires, folks,

reminding people trash. But I wonder how successful it's been. So those 3 connected questions. So the far as the cause, it's tighten mean, the design element is relief. Get the rain, water out of the

loan. So you which is incorporated both, you know, from the open hopper in the back, but also just as residents carts of their lives opener of the. For that matter. We, you know, Kurtz and budgets

that don't support him to be brand new for everyone. So there are some holes and things like that that or noise fix. So there is some intrusion of just natural precipitation and the trucks are

designed to released from the Hopper and avoid the, you know, splashing and then saw one of the employees as well as release that water weight. So that's probably the the primary piece of that. I know

where I know we've had some that where you mentioned where we sentence more inspection resource to try to identify when because another source is the garbage is self It's particularly, you know, some

of the food waste and produce and things that will generate liquids or some people literally throwing out liquids and their trash. So that's that is larger obviously identify where you know exactly

where that would be coming from when we've had reasons to, you know, suspect in certain areas, you and done a little bit of edge. The extreme education on a little trickier to identify and know where

exactly it came from serves. There's another Let me pursue that one just for the concern over the years about the teeth of dpw inspections. We can go in and we can try to educate. But as far as you

know, writing a citation rating, Deanna style inspection reinspection fee, it seems like we're somewhat limited. And I know there was talk few years back. Samara don't oppose this for the previous one

about inspector us that kind of crossed dpw Indian U.S. Is the wrist to one is my impression, correct? That it's really hard for dpw and specter to write an effective ticket or any ticket because they

don't go to Munich court. Unlike the nsa inspectors. Things going on. So obviously sanitation and forestry inspectors, they've right for Tony egress, another sanitation violations. The rest of dpw is

something that word working right now. And James Washington was here. We do have a pathway forward as we see going to 27, which is probably some we haven't discussed is the ability to do that from

just violations in the right of way that we've been working on because it has been a long-term discussion. I can go to Rick and go into details related to sanitation violations, which is a little

different in the 2. The ordinance to provides for us to the issues in special charges for us, the certain conditions that are prescribed. So when we talk about like a municipal citation, you're right.

We don't write those. That's either dns for mpd that would write those. So in terms of like, you know, we don't have as broad of a scope within the scope that we enforce our mechanism by the ordinance

is to issue charges, special charges. And can you issue special charges? So I have some folks who just repeatedly won't take their garbage or will repeatedly Mixon, recyclables and several key blowing

all around the Ali. And I have the neighbors complained about the same property again send out inspector and they do. But it almost always ends with and education attempt and sometimes a failed one

because of a language barrier in you have? The code authority to write. Some sort of special charges in that instance. If could there be more of an effort to exercise that in these repeat cases? Yeah,

I mean, I think could it really depends on the particulars of what situation and we could look at the ordinance if there are things that, you know, because it could be that maybe there's some tweaks

that would enable something that we currently never want to hear from a department as well. The code something that's perennially a problem, if there is something some tweets of the code, then we'll

work with lr. Be. We'll work with you all to try to get that. But it does seem like I'm getting and maybe I'm the only Alder he's getting this. But repeat trash issues with folks who are begging

aren't following the rules have overflowing and it just seems like it's burning up on morning instead of actually what might change behavior, which the charge. So if you're saying it can't be a

citation, but you can church a special charge. Well. Make sure we are using that tool. Have questions for other departments pen for now with sanitation. Thanks. Transportation fund. I'm gonna pass

just for the sake of time. Much. A low-end titian's of the table. Second cart fee. It is up a little bit this year million in revenue. $21 or so each we have 93,977 0nd carts out in the city. 1.9

million in revenue. We charge $20 and $0.92 each. Well. That's for the extra garbage curb. Stated to see as a second car for refuse 93,000nd carts. Is that charge a year for him? It's broken. It's $20

quarterly or is a $20 annually for its per quarter. So, yeah, there's So 22,000 you pay $21 a quarter. The solid waste fee per dwelling unit, though, for the first part. $70, a quarter. We're really

giving people a discount to generate more trash. For one. The scientists come the solid waste fee is for the whole scope of services. So in terms of the garbage collector, recycling garbage

collection, recycling Collection, Brush Collection. The bulky waste. So the solid waste fee is is that full scope? The extra garbage card is is is for the service of an additional card beyond your one

per housing. Yes. So if you thought of it like we already mobilized to pick up one Curtis over picking up to a teller, mobilizing twice. Efficiencies and cost savings if you had to really directly to

what we're paying, it will be the tonnage that would be that second coverage her to go to the landfill. Is there any data that can be collected? Are those second carts being used? So I have a second

car. I will admit that. I don't use it all the time. There's once in a while when have larger, we've been suspending 2 million dollars to buy new carts, right? Right. And we're charging 2 million

dollars to pick up. Understood. Tickets. Can we evaluate the usage of those? I think we looked into it, but let's parse are not cause a new additional wants people. Someone with placements were bind

carts with because to just not the card itself. Weekly pickup. You have to pay for the truck to get as long as it's there. You might as well for a second car. Are there is there an opportunity for a

lot of properties don't use even one cart full of garbage if there's a duplex or multifamily, can they elect to not pay as much? Did not know how it's currently structured with the way we pay

structure. That's what I'm asking. But is there an opportunity if someone doesn't generate as much trash? So you're saying relate to call it a duplex? Yeah. Well, even relating. Tonnage to how much

and household pay. So if they're producing places much, they're paying twice as much. Well, if they're not producing it to reduce that is very difficult thing to buy. We have the cart fee. So if you

if you generate more, you pay a little bit more for the second, correct? Opposite now. So if you don't generate a full cart and you live in a duplex, so each bowling unit pays $280 a year. If you're

only using one cart, should you be paying for both of them? Well, there's their separate unit. I think it's a lot more complex and I don't know if the impact that you be looking for is as large

because we only we do. We don't do like what major part of complex. You're saying is you have 2 different residents living in MAY townhome, a duplex and those 2 news one card so that we are going so

than they would per residential units. And so not broken. Don't like you and your neighbor and sharing a nothing outside the car and then you and then you get into what what's you're right? Size the

card because you do the I think it would be less technology changes really cumbersome to weigh each heart to get into the ring, but you could give different sized cards. That's they do incident. Most

cities that that pays you throw. It's the size of the Carthage paying being asked for a smaller car. But just the we live is because for years the pw came before us and budget trying to get us to move

to that. Yes, and it frankly, if there are households that are maximizing recycling and minimizing their could be some sort of incentive of benefit to them, not generating the trash that we allow them

to. But they have to pick up recycling bill. I recycle recycle more than I do garbage. I can get my garbage taking out every other week. I don't need my GOD. Week. But my recycling, I absolutely have

to have my taxes and I have a son and I time. What friends at home. We do not charge for a second recycling cart that you so much. But and so we're trying to promote recycling, which is a good thing,

which keeps a lot of this material out of the landfill. And so just to basically pay for the recycling, there is the cost to come into solid waste collection. So that's sharing here, which is awesome.

Last the last couple years we've had lately for drops where the Le Freak out has been extended last year. That was extended to the 30th of NOVEMBER, which is when the snow fell in the snow on top of

leaves. And we all know what happened there the last couple years. I've asked about that long NOVEMBER weekend after Thanksgiving when we have all of the leaves out on the street, we don't have anyone

collecting them. Is there an opportunity? Take care of some of those leaves, especially if there's another late really free to be free breakout before the snow falls, especially if we see if we get

reports that there's a snowstorm coming. Should we be able to activate and call people in that extra city holiday to get ahead of the storm. So to answer your question, we can do a lot of things. And

so this comes into timing related to when things occur. And so you are correct. I mean, I will say that all the leaves are not off the trees by that Thanksgiving weekend. We are very we pay attention

to our workforce as a whole. And so once we get in the snow and ice operations, there is a heavy workload that exists. And so we're really cautious on putting those folks in overtime earlier. And just

like we've this year with potholes. I mean, the do snow and ice there to be put in overtime know, 12 months, it's something we can look at and lot of his timing. So if we know we're getting snow on

Sunday, there is a prep that goes into snow operations the day before. If it's a couple of days before like, you know, this could be a snow. There's things that we can modify about Santa of the round

by any means. But it just depends on timing. So like if could we have to pick up as much as we can on a Saturday that can occur? And so it just depends on timing. The menu since 200 talk about

operator equipment operator vacancies. To be my transition. We your eliminating a number of positions that are that are funded. 27 equipment operator positions but we can't fill them. But we still

need them. But we're going to not need them anymore, even though we're we have year-round over time, people are going to leave. So what we have done here is because we have 54 think as of today,

vacancies that exists in there. This is a concert recruitment that relates to covid operators. These ones are a little different. The conversation we just had infrastructure. We are just we're keeping

the position of to basically hit budget targets. If it comes to the point where we feel the other 30 that we have in place, the discussion will be held with the budget Office and Council and

administration to fill those positions that are sitting there. But it already at that point where we need to fill these positions that we still have, even with the 20, we still have 30 vacancies. And

we have never got to the point where they've been 100%. If we actually if we actually of 57 vacancies. And we're just reading off 27, correct? Yeah, we still 30 to go. So if I got to the point where I

feel I have every position will be discussion for everyone to go. Do we have more rights? A little different than the electrical services occurring on the parking and parking enforcement there's a

goal to move the transportation to question of of all parking enforcement is going to be in put a pin in that parking lot of for now. In the game. Cars and then we're just in time for one more each

panels. Baker, you had a couple more one or 2. If I'm think I'm good, I guess is that now, for often their current. What are you, what you budget cycles a year I can run-up to the table to talk about

the exact budget in the specifics, but there's 10 mowing cycles. saying pitches Anthony could to do that? So we were working right now on another like kind of technological solutions so that there's

something I mean, it's something that we've been trying to get down and my entire time here, honestly, like a live feed back of like, okay, here's your assignment. Dispensing an application. The

challenges that we're doing over like 4,000 assignments at a time. But long story short. We're looking at that again over this last year and it would give us the capacity or it would it would allow us

to require contractors to do an would be particularly helpful when it comes to like shredded the time you get there is second thing is there are so calls from. They want to purchase a city on my who

say I've been cutting it for you, correct? Write in the essay here in Milan, Cunningham, who Technology. So you talked about the lease and we want to make paper bags is my last question or point. Last

budget town hall meeting. The representative from the pw actually say you are do take place. They MAY. He's a take it but he didn't say we don't so what I would encourage you to do is make sure that

your staff missing for me, the public about the plastic bag. I thought he said not to take. Yeah, we prefer paper for will put it the town of where to put yeah, we have a one pager that was actually

put out. It was in the municipal bill to inform residents of the options. I mean, we can continue now Tiffany's here, which apl and to continue put more message out, what that actually means because

we had we did some creative content like what are the options for residents by do it? No, we put it in the missile bill. Not everyone reads every piece of content and there but no plastic things. We

are not accepting just to be very clear. That their attack. That inspector. Yeah, that's what we're talking introduce of someone. Does that just put a notice going? Okay. We don't accept plastic.

Other options. Yes, that's what we're gonna try to do as we a 35% increase on self. Place. Rent. Articulated we're not trying to get the individual homeowner who brings the one truckload. And so we

try to navigate to the really large dumps which gets in the conductor, Sir, This is going to track this year. So this is what kind of articulated before we had no fees versus fees. We see no

difference to voters in legal dumping. So here is the increase happens because our exists. That's what we're going to monitor. And it really targets contractors, Nasir the to that when when we

implemented in the fall of 2019, the fee schedule that we haven't modified until now is. That was coming from. We were only charging. Construction, demolition loads. And then we went to a broader. So

at that time there, you know, we had the same concerns and questions about dumping and we did we did have an increase for one month and as like people objecting. But then it came right back down to

baseline and it stayed at baseline until the pandemic. And then to illegal dumping spiked again. Okay. Thank you so much. All are in speaker and will begin to conclude all the room or did you have

anything else on this going to get the Transportation fund? My thing was just just center around efficiency that and I know that we're using technology more and more. It's going, you know, it's going

to get more and more sophisticated, but that were not. It goes back to the whole thing. You know, it can lead to a neighborhood instead of just based on what's on the list, right? It's just thinking

about more efficient ways because coming out to a neighborhood 5 times in one block. And then it just is just a waste of gas and staff time. All of those things. So I'm looking to see more efficiency

as we, you know, process people's request things of that nature. Second invention is that our folks can identify that quickly? No which actually helped us open AUGUST. 25 identifying flood victims. So

this has been a looks like we'll be wrapping anything else outstanding Alderman's I guess from is still cool. I was like myself and alter kayaks to get an update on the wildflower thing. It doesn't

have to be now that could that's very specific. Hearings that are you here? Side for a long time. So that for the dot the day wasted on us and now we have to send out to contractors. We do that with 3

times. Hear something like that. I think it's 4. Okay. Yeah. For them. So 3 for those. Those get pretty bad there and very visible parts. Sometimes when the contractor goes over them, they missed

portions. And sometimes there's areas where it's very confusing because some of that is handled by other property owners. Is there a is there any way? I know we're talking about before and after

pictures with a vacant lot. Is there some way to kind of get a handle on what has been moved out there. Other than me going out and trying to figure out Cruz. This is isn't sending it your way. And I

know that's something I do over and over again. It to just so something less cumbersome, a less cumbersome procedure. We could follow their we kind of stuck with I mean, we so we do have someone

inspect the proper. That they're motivate. Like you say it gets complicated because there's multiple agencies are. And the people responsible. So even if we see something and refer it might. Might be

the county or the d a two-year might be prime anyway. I mean, we can talk about that more. But right now it's just a like a forestry inspector technician who stayed just Are they as a contractor

punished severely if they just know everything that's there because they've gone beyond what was or, you know, I mean, if like the wild for her just out and there on one of the dot right away is

they're technically responsible for. But then there's a section of land. They're not, but is that yeah, I mean, they wouldn't be penalized if they did something that someone else's sticky one and the

last thing kind of picks up on. So I know creative to and not not one of those department division had to use a frightened of technology or and stuff. So so happy to see if there's any ideas you have

there with not the route where software, but the cameras. The same Sarah sums center could use a little bit about what the impact has been with that tax. Oj Simpson r Technology. Simsir. We serve a

couple years ago and a pilot and was really related to snow and ice control so we can actually visit physically see on a map. Where is the thing to pick man? So we see our trucks where they are. We

can also see where the disabled this is where it had foster from. So that's when we started this but as migrated into the entire fleet, though. And so this is every dpw vehicle, even if in elected

official wants to take one of our pool cars. We know where you're at or if you're disabled, etc. So a lot of the purchase was his age to start with snow and ice. But we have navigated going. It's

going to full telematics center vehicles, the vehicle usage where they're at and to right-size our fleet. I mean, think every person goes why twa collided this and then what we're going to do over the

just started to think we just finished installation mid-year this year is to figure out what the actual right size of the fleet is. So we have the sweet discussions. What does the department need

instead of what was requested by folks is the valuable to we have here. It also helps out with preventative agents in vehicles and triggers fleet. Want to take vehicles in to do the work, but also

into from a safety perspective and vehicles like when someone's disabled instead of someone calling in are where it is like we know if there's a particular location for an extended period of time. The

other thing that has been beneficial is the actual front facing camera. We've had numerous incidents of folks that will try to sue the city for like you hit me and things like that. I have great

examples of life ahead of the parking structure that was stopped at a controlled intersection and a vehicle that rammed into a slick back up and physically handed or vehicle put a claim in to the city

says will dpw vehicle hit us. And so a lot of these things is sitting a time in litigation. The backside providing safety for employees that we're not spending a lot of time going. They did this

actually happen. Could we find a camera? We have tangible dead in front of us which has been a benefit to our employees, but also records. You know, it also ties into other things like what is the

vehicle doing? How fast is it going? Exit row, which has been a big positive. The last question just I don't break the 100 year tradition of finance has been of use of technology is allowing you to be

more efficient with your snow routes and with especially maybe have the ending the need for snow chasers and pledges are seeing such to make sure their routes. They say they've done over. They have

been over main part of the tell us stuff relates to important to understand we don't want to just only you have a computer looking at the routes. It's a good supplement. 2 looking at what's been

what's been covered, whether it's salting and plowing the and it's it's also, you know, we it measures this all folks are following the exact directions we've been given because we obviously have

sought cover conservation in mind. We want to solve appropriate to the storm, to the weather, to the pavement service. So it says part about compliance, too. So we're using look at it. So it's

interesting with the with sincere when the Salt Hopper is running, it's telling what vehicles are going down. There's that means could trigger stuff that they're on that street instead of stuff that's

missed. And so in the old days, but still chasers, I was one of those men first to hit the city long hours of just reporting in. They can see the visual that and we can see it from instead of saying,

hey, we're 20% and 40% done except for but also the driver cannot see if there's an mistreated. You know, that's their hope. This isn't sure. And colors from blue to orange, whatever college we member

the scheme of the top my head. So it's been routing like you're saying no, the department, the past 3 years has went through the entire city instead of we said it broken up between Arterials and then

obviously the residential streets. We try to keep those more in a box of their own. That same district which has been huge as well. And then I know is an item that was discussed last year of the just

gonna and you're right. It was it was going through as we last year. We had a trial. And actually I believe there is a MARCH storm that we had launched it. And we have found since that said, I'm sorry

itself. It inherently has a better public mapping tool. That's more direct us more accurate. So that will be put okay. And again, we want to, you know, put out there that it's it's talking about

vehicle coverage is not going to necessarily talk about, you know, the condition of the have it live. And we there is a delay in that because we don't want people just chasing are in place all over

the city. So there is a delay, but we should be of the snow by Sunday online for the OCTOBER But it will great here. Thank you. I think we've hit everything in operations. Anyone else have anything

outstanding that can be handled on their own Isom, this accolade to the commissioner. But having a city tree planted, it's such a cool experience and the information that is delivered and if that

happens, many young people in the home. I thought it was just a really cool experience. I think people maybe don't know about it and we should even promoted even more. And so it was a really positive

experience. Many neighbors reached out to me, too. So I think that can foster some future careers to like it's kind of exciting. So could get that little special known everything. So it was just okay.

So operations has concluded will now conclude with our last division here, Department of Public Works Transportation Fund. So Transportation Fund come on. We're ready to go. Yes, we're okay. And the

Covax Budget Management division is our last item of the day. The 6 budget unit within Department Public Works and Enterprise Fund. The Transportation fund, Sarah Osborne will go through the slides.

Got that. We have a pitching update. A change on a starting. Yes, I can mail probably come in time. No one I'd like to see everybody get a break. Finally tonight got a straight Appeals out. But a lot

the end. Great good afternoon chair as MADAM Chair, members of the Finance and Personnel a budget and fiscal policy Administration here to present the mayors 2027 proposed budget for the Department of

Public Works. Transportation Fund. So overall at the department, just I'm sort of their department operating budget is up about 9% from last year's budget. More notably this year would reinstate

transfers this time to the capital Fund rather than the general fund has in years past and anticipate an increase in deposit to retained earnings. Only a very minor change on salaries and positions

that majority of the cost increase positions. They to couple positions in the hr pre-op study. There's one increase position here at as a tow lot assistant. That is today. Just an increase in work

volume resulted from some I'm so they need more support to schedule court cases and provide customer service. I'm operating equipment. So the operating budget is increased by 2.6 5 million from last

year's budget. So there's a few items that are specific and that increase some of the maintenance needs on their own pr and upgrade to Duncan Solutions which handles some technology am. The other

thing I would just note here is that the 26 budget was quite a bit lower than actual expenses ended up coming in. And 25 and should probably have made clear last year. Just to note here as well that

the operating budget, the Transportation Fund actually funds the majority of expenses at the United Call Center for temporary staff since most of those costs are for the kind of night permit parking.

So just to note that decrease, there will probably budget. Hear about the 24.0 2. And then the equipment line here. This is for a lot of equipment at the tow lot. So chair needs handheld devices as

they're going around at cameras. Shuttle vehicles to it, people to their cars and then the meat budget as well. So special funds and purpose accounts. They don't have any special purpose counts. I'm

but the special funds, the so there's one that's a payment to debt service. That number comes from the comptroller's office. It's based on their prior capital expenses, the payment in lieu of taxes as

a pilot came into the city, which sort of index that to inflation and then the dockless scooter line here is offset by an equivalent revenue line that's mostly spent on multi-modal transportation

efforts and dpw. In revenues. So we're expecting a lot of increases here. So. Reminders from your past, we've always tried to be pretty conservative here given the funds keeping pretty negative

condition. We are observing so far in 2026. Quite a bit of increase compared to the 26 adopted budget and compared to years past additionally, we are proposing through a separate pile that will come

before the council resolution. That resolution that will come before the council. Some increases to permits and citation fees and would not come before the council. Some increases to meter rates in

downtown locations and that specific chunk of revenue is what we're counting here as the basis for the transfer. So that adds up to 6 million, 2 and a half million of that would come from the parking

permits. 3 million of that would come from citation fees. 500,000 of that would come from the meters and then just to know that the rest of this increase is again, just sort of based on trends that

we're seeing today in 26 and how 25 ended up closing So the kind of biggest new line item here is for parking services consolidation Parking enforcement in the past several many years has been located

at a leased facility that had pretty unfavorable terms. For several years to try and get out of that facility. And there were some barriers given other needs within dpw. So we're finally in a position

where we can get out of that facility where we've had very expensive maintenance costs that the city had to pay. This would be a move to consolidate all parking operations at a facility on that whole

lot. That is already owned by the city. I'm currently being used by the police department for their fleet used. They will continue to use that space, but that space will need to be outfitted to be

usable for the for the Transportation Fund. A lot of the increases and items here are just needed repairs for the most part and maintenance work on a lot of our parking structures. The department has

continued to look into opportunities to, you know, the kind of costs and benefits of keeping those structures, but being able to make any moves with that anytime soon. And in the meantime, just from

safety buildings just have had really increased maintenance needs to be operational. There's also parking fleet and license plate readers in order. You know, they we've made an effort to increase

parking enforcement staff over the past several years. A lot of their fleet is quite old. And so at present when they are fully staffed, a lot of the staff of in ship meeting to double up in cars. So

people, you know, anticipate that will be. Long-term savings from having a up-to-date fleet sunset both decreases long-term maintenance costs. And the fleet also means that you have more parking

enforcement officers that can be out on their own. I'm issuing citations. There's also an increase here on streetcar Capital Improvement. I'm there was a line item a couple years ago. I'm to do. And 5

year a mandatory five-year overhaul of the streetcar. I'm there just expenses for that. Have have turned out to be more expensive than was originally budgeted. So they need more money to kind of

finish that out as well as a couple other maintenance needs on the on the street car. Going to a budget by service. So in the largest line item here is, of parking enforcement. There are the next

highest item. It's all came into the city. The transfer the plan or the proposed transfer, I should say to the capital fund to pay for road repair and the pilot debt service. And with that, I will

hand the presentation of to the department. Okay. Fantastic. Last one here. This is the last Commissioner public works here. I will end up having this over to Peter Max, who is our parking services

manager who's been in the position for a little over a year, do so. Storage of the release of over 25,000 vehicles annually. We provide both on and off-street parking options. The support is that we

provide operational information support and pardon services with an almost communities. Rpo Zahn are pockets of staff is in the field. 24 7 with the public. So we are there to assist and a lot of

situations, emergency situations. We've authored first aid. So we are very involved within the community. We also promote up a town hall meetings. We give citizens why we're in the field and that

whole lot as well. So we have a core belief that education is a vital component of parking compliance throughout the city and the system. Throughout Milwaukee. Streetcar, which is the free public

transportation option that we've discussed many times that service the dental community and looking for future expansion of in the future. In a row to 466 reported. 24 citations this year, we are

projected to write 550,000 citations. We anticipate about 535,000 citations next year. The reason for that is we will see a full year of accept increase part of out of 12 officers. But I'm their heart

rate was APRIL. Saw him doing his projected out our current performance and what that would equate to next year towing of vehicles. And that has also been up. We are projecting a 27,000 that could all

kind of ties together, the more enforce when you have the more vehicles that make it towed things like that. And, you know, same thing with we have seen an increase in is parking permits. We have one

39 last year. One 60's actually climb a little higher than that right months ago. So it's hard to predict what those 2 months old. Some major we continue to use technology and parking services. One

thing that we've added to that whole lot, we do have online options first citizens. We've also added the utilization qr codes. The lobby, this helps streamline processes to reduce probably some

vehicles quicker. We've been given an opportunity to reimagined are basically on-street metered parking program. So we'll be exploring all options with that. And I think I view this is a great

opportunity. We were thinking about this all along before our vendor walked away through ready to the plans. So we are excited about that. We will be piloted in ai to help streamline telephone volume.

Call volume. And we will also hopefully at that point goes well, trance that over to parking services which would have a significant cost savings and efficiencies across the board. We've been very

Kirsten, what this could do for parking services. We are also enhancing our utilization of let's play Raiders, camaraderie in the vehicles that unregistered vehicles. This cute creates efficiencies

and compliance also helps you recover stolen vehicles. Quicker. And then one of the things that which has been very effective is we've sifted our entire on training program for new p o's. We used to

do it the first set in the classroom. But most Pio started 3rd system. We do it in real time. The to turn 3rd shift, even a hands-on approach in the field. And this will now they do. They're walking

into that. I think we're seeing some summer out of that area that we're seeing better retention. They're not leaving that so many people are tired early. By the way. What I think the last 2 slides

subtle. The this is some key performance indicators are that the streetcar? We have seen a increase in ridership and 2026 compared to 2025, I think we had a record number of he went to the festival

season and a lot as a tribute to, you know, obviously a number of scheduled trips. If you look at 99.3% of being on time, which actually promotes of folks are looking for reliable, consistent system,

we start to turn a corner in a positive way. There. And then you'll see plant in 2027. We have to prevent accidents. We're just this is based on averages and we say preventable accidents. These are

folks that are running red lights and impacting the streetcar when it's going through. You know, since 2024, we had a lot of those instances just an average. We're hoping that number is 0. And the one

thing I do want to note is we've had 3.7 million riders through AUGUST, the 26th that have written the half, which is a great statistics. I still remember the first million and now we've almost

quadruple that to date. And then the last slide we have here is that the department demographics and I know we've talked about this in residents. I think the fascinating thing to point out here and I

think all during the retreat, as you pointed out earlier, is this is more female dummy than any other one, which is an amazing statistic considering it's one of the hardest jobs to do in the city. So

parking enforcement officers. But I I give them a lot of praise because it is not an easy job dealing with the public related to parking violation. So it's just that that roams better than probably

all rest. A little bit of people are happy to see you. Be the flexibility with schedule. Maybe over some of it is. Yeah. I mean, first interesting. Evaluate those when they're working or when Okay.

Anything else that concludes Transportation River questions. Okay. Thank you so much. We'll start with Alderman Scott Spiker. Thank you. MADAM Chair, out quickly on the street Kerr Avenue, I noticed

there was a pretty large ship. Their 1.4 million. My to pass me by kind of quickly. But what was grandstanding? There is still some grant revenue anticipated the one thing we do have out there just

related to revenue, we did put an rfp for advertising. So which we don't, it's an unknown. So we didn't want to put in the budget without knowing what the potential would be there. So as we go through

that we can should also note that while it's not a huge source of revenue, we have been seeing advertising revenue increase this year compared to last streetcar do annually? And just in the hole? In

terms of the cost to the revenue And that's like 7 and a half. 7 and a half in the hole. Yes, some half-million, correct. Okay. Plus, mice. And, you know, we discussed it last year. What would happen

if we did something radical letter to discontinue and there would be significant cross from the Department of Transportation. And the Commissioners Point With respect. So I guess the main thing I want

to focus on is there's a transfer from the transportation fund to the capital funding. This. Proposed budget to the tune of 6 million dollars last year. There a very forceful presentation given by the

budget office that talked me out of trying to do a transfer think from last to to members and and folks on the other side, the table that kind of was trying to lay out why it would have been a good

idea to do the transfer. So kind of what a difference a year makes. So now it's being suggested we do a 6 million dollar transfer and I'm all about the funding for for roads and, you know, might be

willing to borrow for that reduce other capital expenses to make room for that additional borrowing for roads. But given the health of the fund. It seems like. Well, one that assumes that all of the

few increases stuff through the citation, increases $10 across the board. This 47 categories doubling overnight parking and then there's this. A very robust idea about how many traffic citations

parking citations were going to write. So if you look at parking citation, revenue. 2026 adopted was 14 Million. 27 proposed is 21 million that's a 50% increase and projected revenue from parking

citations alone. And just so I'm clear these are numbers that the comptroller doesn't did not recognize does not recognize right, because and I know there's a very helpful memo from his eyes burn the

kind of lays out some of the rationale for for how y'all can to that number. But I guess I'd asked my first question to the comptroller like if if you are GOD and you could and you are in charge of

whether we did this the fund isn't a healthy enough state to do it? Why or why not? Well understanding will we'll get the budget office a chance neutral in this. You don't have a dog in this fight. So

is a sound financial action here. Given the state of the fun, good or bad. Familiar, it's because it's the same comments that I gave on this topic last year, which is I like to see years as and

multiple years of audited financial statements reflecting revenues, exceeding expenditures before I think any transfer out of the transportation fund would be wise or prudent. And the last audit id

numbers we have are for the Cafferty from 25, correct? Yeah. And those showed a growth in the cash deficit of about over 3 million dollars. That includes a six-month transfer. So route that there was

growth, right? Not for the transfer, the U.S. That it would have its all too. So that sounds it's not helping your Okay. So. Given that the the accumulated cash deficit is significant. There's cash

advances that have been made by the general fund to the Transportation fund. I think 32 million something. Like, yes, a 2. Plus that yeah. So I guess Mr Controllers and that what you like to see is

something other than projections based on. Part of 2026, you'd like to see some at least one year, maybe 3 years of audited numbers before you felt confident that we have a trend here that were.

Diminishing, that I think that's that's where some of the demonstrates a pattern. And what happens if that pattern? Is projected but overly rosy, like what if it comes in like a MR. Knox spend doing a

great job. I watched the hearing from last year. Any budget me with the point at which I I'm happy to have the budget because I'd Thanking something falls. But the parking citation revenue. That's a

lagging citations and then people take some time later, when we when we turned a parking is well, given that way again, citations. Are we as confident as we are that the the revenues really got a

comment so hot. So I guess the question to my colleagues minds might be after hearing from the comptroller given the strong case budget made last year for not doing the transfer. Why are we suggesting

it for this year and I'm sure you're going to say, well, things are looking really good and parking, could he just say a little bit Ly you acknowledge why it might sound initially like a really? While

the idea to go from word, it's going to be no transfer last year said no transfer. And and the question was asked, well, what about in future years and like that for a few years and then to turn

around the next year into a 6 million dollar check transfer. So could use a little bit about what what's changed. And I'm sure that overland MR. Knox and his maybe lead it off and they can win with

details. I don't disagree. Then they come to us said, I think I think it makes sense to have a pattern of a few years of growth. 25 was left over from the 25 budget. We really raise the alarm last

year last year. We did not do one. We don't know yet. A full year of no transfer how much growth will get. We feel confident it's going to be multi millions, but we don't know for sure yet. And I

would say if if it were not for the major changes in permits meters and tickets, then I would co-signed questions and answer, same co-signing those answers in that in that environment. But what

changes were proposing significant increases in revenue which we were conservative about. Will significantly increase the revenue by at least 6 Million. So the parking citation revenue going from 14

to 21 Million. How much of that is just due to the that 4 million of it was good trends here. But and so the department is on track this year toward to 18 Million. So the rest of that would just be

from the increase. But they are tracking pretty well so far this year and that 3 million does assume a 75% Romans rate. So it is, you know, as you mentioned, it's a lagging indicator. It's not

assuming that all of that everyone's going to be paying right away, right? So MR. Next who worked with the council very well on on that. That whole parking offender patrol ship called you know, one

thing that was reported to public safety recently is that seems to be driving people into getting there overnight permits instead of getting over and over again. These tickets so I think 1.5 million

has been collected thus far. Thereabouts as a result of that ordinance. But if we're driving people to get the overnight permits and then we double the permits, that is that going to create a problem

where people go back to playing a cynic might say that's not a bug. That's a feature. If the goal is to raise revenue, that's I guess tickets cost more than overnight for months. But that's not I

don't think that this council wants to do if you if we are. It was. So what is is the plan just to write a whole bunch more tickets and use that to subsidize? This year. Capital other years. The

general fund through. The Transportation Fund and we've already been writing more tickets. The plan is to continue the current pace going to charge more for each ticket. And also we want them to get

the permit. But we're the lottery if they pay for the permit. The permit cost more. Now it's still going to cost more to get the tickets. Better off getting from it. It would be. And what we haven't

done yet is seeing where these extra tickets of come from, like I don't I don't know. I assume there might be some data on that. But there were some concerns. And, you know, I was the primary sponsor

for the virtual parking offender ordinance. But there were concerns raised by my colleagues, some of whom are at the table about the equity of the citations and now that they've exploded again.

Number, it would be good if we took a deep dive on where there where the shaking out because some of them are in areas that are, you know, economically better off. But guns and then some are in areas

that are so economically like Alderman Presence District has huge parking densities some of this, but just to be clear, you know. Before. Pre 2015 area, the partners reading nearly over 700,000

citations. So we're not even close to what it used to be. You know, in the early 2, thousands. And so I mean, ice point for us is around 500 because we do have a lot of citizens asking for enforcement

cetera, and were analyzed, has come from and appear go into detail. But we're still not even a huge tree. Where was, you know, 2 decades ago because that was that even I would consider that 700 plus

1000. A lot. And so I think as the covid cassette is we're just trying to maintain what we have now because we've increased the number of parking fortune officers and just maintaining that which has

been a positive. Yeah, I do want to make clear there are 2 separate issues. I've lighted them here intent is to lead them. There's the question of whether we should raise citation cost. That's a

policy decision. And then there's the question of whether we make a transfer out of this transportation fund that has accumulated cash deficit. That is significant like if you look at the tables that

doesn't look good, you are. Independent auditor and you looked at that. You're like you transfer money out of that thing. So that's a separate issue. I just want make sure we keep those clear and our

own your roll. Okay. So I want to citation Inc. Prior to in 2024, we pro less than 40,000 citations 3.96 you are correct. There is a leg in the delay of Pima citations. So it's kind of important news

in order to do projections accurately any consistency in operations k when you consistency in operations. Now you can kind of see trends. What happens in your seat? You can better project revenue

trends when I kind of stepped in last year when the first things we did is we streamlined compliance and using technology just to do. High-density areas and just kind of just noticed to support

different approach and pretty consistently since I'd say AUGUST on, we trends pretty close every month on the number of citations issued. We do not here. Is by district. It's actually matzie. That

does include the last year. What we presented a sweet issue. Towed. So we say you don't target areas, you don't go to there's there's what we don't like say we're going just like were set to go to

your district every single night, the same street every single night. But we do go with our compliance issues where we go more in certain districts that parking as Morris of the scarcity. And so you

would expect more trials to correct. And and so now if you look at from a revenue standpoint, you know, we're going on a close to a year where we've been kind of trending right around that Haitian

issuance of a lot of that, too. As we remember last year we put in Tokyo's. So some things that we've seen as we track is ok. So now on average throughout the course of the year, we're averaging, you

know, people leaving people come and go over average about 71 p o. So that's a jump of 10 from last year. So that's more staff in there. So I'm confident more now is that we're going to year. We have

a consensus for years far as moving forward to that sweet spot is right around that 5.50 So I will say that now. The other thing is we are about compliance and there's some measures that exposed to

public safety that you're referring to is that when you have compliance enforcement, people do take notes and we're seeing some trends we are seeing, you know, close to 35,000 more permits we also are

seeing and part of the hpo I think is I always been tracking data. Rights, you know, just from last year, what ice Center last you know, 2024 citizens got from 71.6% paid to 74.5% paid, 25. So keeps

going up. So once again, when you stabilize that and we can make that assumption, Hayward say 75% of people pay citations 550,000 citations. I'm a lot more confident if I'm recommending a projection

to the department first, as if it's all over the map. So for me, yes, it has not been a long time. It's you know, just signed a year. The trend is I'm trying to get consistency across the board and so

that we could be in front of you giving, you know, budget projections. And so far, so pass on that So if the goal, the goal isn't to get money, it's to get compliance how if you if you achieve your

goal, you go broke. What's going to places around successful and messaging out parking violators, funders, then when to expect a drop in at least the growth in citations you've had this year as you

get more traction and people are where the city's charging more and they're serious about it because look, in these dense areas, parking checkers are everywhere so I guess is that incorporated into

the memo that we are actually successful and what we state we're doing. If we're not doing what we say, we're doing an argument falls apart, but it's something we're honest and we're trying to get

people not to offend. Then if we're successful, we shouldn't be raising. Maybe the rosy amounts a city the size, it takes us a long time to get to the entire city. You know, so, you know, going to be

citations. You know, that's just part of it. My goal is you are going to a compliance. And I think working is I don't want to see says others 150 citations. You know, it's like we want to know, bring

that that we do track like average citations. You know, if you look at people patients that we see in people, things like that so it's not a we still have a relatively small team. You know, when you

when you think of the size, the city of the population. So I don't see that, you know, we're not trying to go out right and millions of patients. That's that's not our goal. Our goal is just to do try

to get to the areas where we time and you know, and you know where I come to see that right now to see notice of that whole lot of perspective. I kind of what we've done in the past us and so forth.

So I do think right now we're at right now. It's a distance. I see that being something be very stable, that that would just be kind of a you know what we can kind of expect based off staffing based

off the city base of trains, abc and still have compliance and still have that 75% that's going to be my take on, you know, as Fars, you know, as we move last question and then I prime the pump enough

and happy to going to colleagues and maybe come back to me later. But expenses have also been growing in the parking fund to. I mean, I've heard a lot said about her revenue increases. We're going to

see these health here. But expenses streaker duckett's greater every year with parking checkers. Don't do it for free. The parking enforcement officers. We have increased expenses as well. Yeah. And I

would say one of the things that, you know, there's obviously a limit to the talks. We look at net revenue until things that the goal is to say. We're trying to create more our compliance, but it is

about having to say what are some ways that we can, you know, reduce expenses. I do look at technology. I look at the ice project and phone calls. If you look at and we appeal to later. But we look

at, you know, doing to body parking services. The efficiencies recreate that when you have multiple 24 7 operations working to independently night come together all the cross training. Yes, I think

technology can do a lot to help lower costs. We have a couple good on the road. You know, some major, our piece coming It's changing so fast without the other ways that we can save money. That

process. Where are you talking about services that we have for you out of a contract or so? I do not disturb you. I think expenses, you know. That is an area that we are focused on trying to find

efficiencies took, took to reduce that yet. So just to helpful to have to pull some demographics. I guess both for violators offenders and citation careers and economic demographics because obviously

we're in tough economic times and we're talking about raising these in a non progressive manner. So that MAY hit those who are least able to afford. It was something that seems insignificant to us.

But Mason, very significant to them. So I'm happy to discuss that. Happy to discuss whether it's wise fiscal policy to be transferring out of the fund. That is. This much in a cash deficit. But I

think of taking up enough Speicher. The order will go in as a member goalless alderman and we'll check online with other link hogs. And Peter got us. Thank you. MADAM Chair. Thank It's like for that

brief introduction for my comments a few inches thick we had previous budget footnotes about increasing the rates and a resolution to increase the rates and increasing number of variable rate meters

in a high city are in downtown. Are all of those variable rate meters in of those new rates, in effect. Okay. So yes, that's thatSo we do have a base done in OCTOBER of 2 to 2024. So that's been in

play that accounts for 233 parking spots that are you We also have the landmark venue down there. So we're seeing more action. We work with the Bucs beat me with a monthly they saw as the band. So we

see those events. That's when we will trigger a change in the rates we did this year per year resolution. We did open with summer festivals. Meyer Park starting with Summerfest moving forward. We have

did 563 parking spots have did have Numbers are approxime just because the way our system But I would say the summfest, we're looking at $0,000 that summerfestn we are planning to continue to go

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what we've noticed ishere hasn't been an increasen. We're talk about nomil fees if they were been increes of 3% over a period of time, weave been ne because not everye sees a llar too, but just kw

those ings that happen in lot of tse fees that we've had reted to and the The transportaon fund just haven't been touch. So expling. That is what's en going onSo and partially has to answer question

iare Sure. I think that'shat we set this table to look. But ts seems like the mt obvious because I mean, we sayouble digits, feful, but it's reallyike absolutelyoes. So there's no cle answer here. And

it it'se're trying to accommodate whate have heard from the plic consuently, if if you dot fix a poole and have a burst a ti that's more expensi than whawe're trying to do are toh decisions, but thi

was the cleapath that made the most sense. Ah, I unrstand. I think we'r definitely gng to have to look at a diffent path forward because I st I I mean, wh folks saw the fee, I began toet the e-mails

and the calls and, younow, and ain, those folks thajust don't have any oer choice. There are some that ready ve to walk a block o2. You know, just forarking just because of, u know, just because

ofensity. So I know that will denitely have to figure outome things around that. Thother issue is if if someoncan help me really ick, how do we? Capte ridershifor the streetcar? Is there something

tt's capturing the peoplehat come there's all paenger trackers on the vicles themselves and thenets uploaded to the system. It'sot let that easy. There's moreomplex, not that makes sense. D then

revee. I know that we ge some funds froPotawatomi. Wh of the other revenu sources for the stre car? Yeah. So what we dis we have we have obviouy have the title. Sponsorship w part of at I mean. We

have tt through 20. The other ways we genate revenue is we do wraps and a stetcar. Other advertising oprtunities we ops that they can puon. And part of what wre doing gog to 27. It's what wput itself

becse obviously us sitting on this de, we're not marketing profesonals. And so to gout there and figure out is therare other opportunities toarket the streetcar or have vertising last. That's what

we'r looking at.. So it all comes that number.O when we look at Page 6 for theevenue in its that decreas that's from grants that somerant funding t it. All Ongoing grts, but they h a significant arpa

grt that ended MR. Tha you. Catch that. Sohank you for thank you for clarying clarying that. And then far asust eveland the upke on it is that so at is point, do we have tget enough like advertisg

grants and things like that to keep. Because ain, we don't chargenything for e for the streetcar. And I knowhere's been some conversaon of, you know, again, do we crge a nominal fee like what ist that

will make sen to help offset cost I thk that's where go wi the vertising itself so can gonto a vehicle maintenance in t street. Rs are very similar everyone'sassenger vehicle. You know, you'reoing for

oil changes. You're ing for intenance. It's the me thing th we have with with largtransportation optio, too. So we'vbeen overhauling thisnd you can see in th budget. At's why there's a line im.

Therefore, 1.5 million for e 5 cars because we do have to keep tm up-to-date and bfda relations. And so whate're trying tdo, that's why the later from n, we'll have a better clearer pture of what the

increase coulde related to advertising itselbecause at's where we have ttap. And we did. Weid the research study and hired a coultant evaluate what the bnd is say thatublicly because yeah we couldee a

much more and w do have great oppounities to produce more revenueelated to that im. And that's why we rfp for adrtising itself. Got a ways to t like Mcts know the other dsn't same kind of comes up.

Wee looking as well. Excellent.Kay. Ank you for that. And MrChairs just a bit of it reference to our flt as we purchase newnd again cause of technology, cars and vicles are just being built dierently.

Right? And y know, the older uff it's like now li I have I can't imagine my hicle wiout a backup camera cause I'just like man out ofhe park. Befo I look behind me. But, you kno but again, the

technology rig in the from going too fast cs coming. You know, m coming up to a vehicle. My car star to be n. If I don't do anying immeately to pump the bres for meright? And so there' technology

that's beg added to ls of our vehicles. When wtalk about our fleet the goal to move tord like know that we talked out like moving toward ectricity and things like thats is the goal to haveore of our

vehicles, our of ourleet, especily those that like wt that the goal to helreduce costs to me toward that rection? Yeah. So it because I mean erything to the enterprise fundsHave they pay for this a

try to do that? You are correcin what 're trying to do is to an industry standd. So we're not going to hh costs repairs on vehicles thacost more than a some of the stuflike you just mentioned, new

vicles, obously less wear and ar into prentative maintenance and then bically trying to process this vehic, sell themSo there is a value that to get somee in a new vehicle.Eah, there's a huge sht that

we have to dond th obviously you've prably seen in our budgetequest reest of the 32 milliojust and this has bn going on for quite some time.Nd o'Brien who sits here is o fleet nager. We're trying

think basicallturn the corner on th. And so you'll see some ofhese operating thinglike eltrical services, there requesti vehicles to try to ra that up. The first ing wee targeting honest enterprise

fds himself becae that actually has cash revenuehat is separate fr the tax levy. And swe go in that realm ther And so to stabilize those takethe prsure off of fleet asell that the gl would be to get a

regulacycle. That is indusy standard so weave the proper technology, a ner vehicles th exist and all the bls and whistles thacome with that and 2s that it's also recruiting tlike if someone comes and

says I got a 15 year old gbage truck, this isrutal compared to sothing that's new. That hel as well. So it's an uphilbattle. But I thinwe've heard that not only deparpublic works with a lot of

othedepartments as well. It'a tough call. And as the increasedrice of vecles as a whole is ppening. It is becomg more and mo of a challenge becae we've en the price double someehicles than others. I

mean in house, I wl pride a lot of cdit is we're trying to figure strategic ys to basically streamlinehat types of vehicles wereuying as wellInstead of customize vehicle. So rst of all, we can get

them faste And that's more standardized.So for emoyee want something. Hey, we cagive you 80% of at you want and we c put it time but not wait lger for hicles. There's all nds of tngs go in the

backgrnd. There. All Everyone has sken ones. I just want to mtion it came t maybe a day or 2 a. And thank you to Pet Knox are putting gether the where the parking permits ar I know it wasn't a kind

perfect. Was a little over 1,430 1000ut 30,000. We didn'tave data fornd he did break it down per I tnk Aldermanic district. It wast actually what I prected. But that's what you're dog. The job But

that's why we wa the data site. Create tha Look at it. I agine perhaps those at are hid will probably get w more phone calls. Do want toention, please on th permits d for anybody listening, we'reoing

to counicate that out carully Weave huge density on e south side. I uld just hate that someoneue to different language doesn realize that doesn't rchase said and then get stucin this massive cycl of

like cketing. I'm just ry nervous about tha So pleasfairly often. And in mtilingual, I think, really important. Soveryone haspoken once except f the check on Aerwoman Lake hogs on the Transrtation

Fund. Hello. Just e question. Okay. The stetcar. And looking towardadvertisement. I've discuss as a form, the upcoming negiations with summer fast and ju looking at. Peaks hiest usage. For the

streetcar and whatvents or things they MAY beonnected to have given some ought 02:00am. Deang with some of those entitieshat benefit most. Fr the street car and t the mostou live a shot from r them to

become spoors. Yeah. And I think at's mething we're expandg internally. Like lasyear we ded it communication position to the reetcar which we have just hir, which was a long process to get t and

that's whathis individual's starting to exore as well because you're notrong. I meana major event that kd comes to that as a rgeant Hey Maier Festival, obviously. Ithere somewhere partnership there?

Tse are thin that we're talking out on aegular basis, a meetg with tm actually, I think tomoow or next week. Butes, those are things wwant to ve this communicatio person d marketing person aually get

engagewith us. Do you eveforesee a day when visit become sponsorand or investors in it as wl. I wod like anybody. So is like aong line of investor thg to have data that denstrates how he rectly

benefits partular companies, businesseor enties so that they haven invested intert and want to wi my question is, yea no, I think can meet with, you know, even Pgy who is kind of in both roleat this

point and discuss at topic. Thk you. Alderman Cox. We're downo our final commentsere. So Alderman's Baker foyear less one ish, please. So picking uon the chair is questionsbout the rking permits. That

s an informative aphic and I would underscore wt you said about the near South side.O of the double digipercent holds of permits. My disict other pressinghe 12th strict is highest atlmost

Zemurrayerson far behind at 10% or so.F course, all these changes would ha to be ssage out and Spanisas well. Going to t point about thpossible disparate iact. That's are where. Folks in those

districts wille it woulbe experiencing the doubling of the overght citatis. So that is possib disparit And and the application of theseees, I wod note, I guess for e citaons. Prected revenue. 26 adted

r parking citations s 14 for 27. It's 21. That waas I was anted just continuincurrent trends. We're lookg at Rose Lee. At least 18 milon are conservatily. I guess 18illion in 2026. And en if yoadd in

the $10 incree, you gethe extra 3 Million. So if you did to theransfer, that's Million. That would be vered. And then the increa in permits. That's also 2.Million over. So between the 2ou got 5.5

milln and the argument a well. Wee got to raise these fees or elsee can't to the transferWell, if you don't do the trafer, those are 2 reasons says y don't want to increase the perts, perhaps just

barely. And y don't want to increase the cition prices that you juscheck them up a coupleears ago. Was that a couple yea ago or so last so thawould be one way you uld keep things flatnd then u don't

do the transr. Then, course, you have to say, well,he transfer didn't just going tair. It went to the capital acunt. So then you wod have to find anoth way to fund thatnd perhaps the way we usually

fded is throh borrowing and thenhat would create issues r other pital expenses wouldave to cuback on or else. We increase ourorrowing. But there is an arraof choices. 's not either you rae the fe are

you don't get seets. You could.Ot raise the fees. Help out the cstituents and also hp out the health of the fu. You just have to fd an altnative source for fuing the roads. If yowant of the about

andhat source has traditiolly been borrowing. I not saying we should, but no of these things are automaticThis is a I don't think peoplehould be alertnd that this is policy decisio That's kind of been

baked in e cake already. We don't have raise these fees iwe don't want and we probably should dohe transfer anyway because the fd is not 's a good summary ani think you did a go job of separating it

in theense of you could ise the fees no trsfer that made contrling I certainly would norecommend going in the oth direction. Don't ise the permits and stl make the transfer. T you also could. Noraise

the permits, ler the ansfer and find an alternate fuing source. You suggested borring. There's other ssibilities you're not in a bohere. The's a lot of options We've plained. Why we chos the options.

We di And the ball's in your cou now. Also, you could inease by a differt amount than what's before youAnd that's part of calculing revenue for thats prorated I know a meer goes has some morintricate

ideas, the uncomplicad spreadsheet to invest. But yh, I mean, rougy, I would say if crease of $55 annual or 20 p trimester or 10 per month or 5er week or one per day. If you nt to reduce that, you

shouldeduce the 2.5 million dollar tnsfer proportionately. It uld recommendation. Yeahbecause if y make the argument t all is money, then you'r going somebody tsay well as I don'know that we've hit

Goldieocks even under your So it sounds le. Budget director and I agreebout the ssibilities here. Ank you for bringinghis to Well, thank Thatas the budget really convincing se last just like e last

time we had is talk with the bate of e graphs in the memo Remember, anyby member that the paing chart. He has or the graphere. You know, one thing I wa to point out as we continue tossess this, there

is a way 2 a I'll talk with or b. You know, the assessor's offe actually does calculate rage spaces and parkinspaces into the valu ofour home when they aess itSo there is a databa if we wanteto see if

there was a eper possible dense what I've called like parng desert And if we kind of ce to look at that, so ey they do take that into consideration. And is someing we might want toook at. If we

reallyant to wonder how this is rely can actually calculate possib how where the paing spaces are They n nsor knows kind of le, but thassessor's office wh they calcate their assessment they lk at

parking spaces d garage te or not. So we have somewhat oa feel of those onhat just residentialasis. So somethingo consider, i guess I'll sharehat with the Office of Complian Engagement has asked them

to ok at it too. Sour last comments of sudden ty also standing woul be Aldern Burgos more you pretty good ere. Anything. Just quick follow-up. Ok. Let me go fit. And then that and then you cou wrap us

up. Just wanted to ask aut out of the ke or asked about th Demographicsor a vigil parking offeers what h do how can we captu th low? What informati were u when you said demoaphics? At like what are

youooking to cture? Do that, thoh, like what I mean, if Iave a vehicle, is it connectedo all of those ings? Do I know maleemale age group, its ecomics. Do I know all ofhat? So for city perspectiveit's

a tow lot kn we because now peop the on avenue to have for thatould be the end of I I would like to ssent of courcases through the cots and th might have been for a second speh of what they would have

a bill torovide. T the tow lot wouldn be provided the rk is a bright again,oo. We do break it dn by Aldermac district. We have cars repeat fenders, number citions, anything that relates the citations,

the car locati, any debt you want. I n provide that, but not the not what y're looking for. I just wanted t understandou could for rtain districts. I mn, there are certain raal patter, ethnic patterns

in the city tt if you get aumatic today, you wilget District. There's very strong Latino representatn and that's it's going be impact. But personally, I think that's best r complains of engagemt. I

mean, that seems beyo you provide the data, but that kinof possible degraphics, racial racl, if the was an equity is ipart of their msion. So I think that is you can pride the databut it's beyond your

scope. I tnk also it would be kind of wed because they need be alleginthat your departments doing something asked that actlly requested and requested e parking permitstuff. So let's we a want it cause

of the last thing we want. The aa legiator last the want tdo make a decision thahas disparate impact. It a terrib feeling. So we real ne to go in and share e same dat Same metrics, etc. Don't ha to

park in for your house to be towed ound. We hava lot of vehicles th that we ve a nurse or issues that don'telong. The person that gets towed. So don't really know a loof things until the action com. A

toll on not s it's not possible. It's it'it's a little bit understa that. But we get th exacopposite of how it's literally upended meone's lifend it's all about thr liveand not the vehicle,ow they

cldn't take their kid to schoothe next 6 or a so it's tough not so tt was that. So thank you so mh for that. And then the other qution was, I know this probably s come up since my time on theouncil

would, you ow, told folks have lked toldort of and I don't en know how it would wo as far in and out of the cy as far as fol that live outside of the city thatre comg into the city. H would that has

there beenny coersations about that Never know. I I'm suming have been brought up atne time, but I don't ow if you've ever explored tolling cy limits at all. And usual when you look at that whole

syem, those are uslly e state state freewa people drive on locastreets d even lge community s that I don't tnk we've I'm not su if you want tgo down th path and I apprecia on that lastment of the

meant thlast section of comments. Absolutelye baing on tt. Can we charge different rates? City residen cpared to non ci residents. Wauk Couy is kkinground the idea o charging ofor rking at the

lakefront. Depenng oif yore aesident or not. A resint. Ere's a lot of tught he. Myear just my kn-jerk reaction iwe want fos to paonize the ntral busiss injury, e city, Miaukee fromhe outsidend bring

tt revee in. Coulwe possibl do it? Ihink there a potentia I don't kw the u're sayinwe can do, leaders caread the yh and tigh Whoever t person is because if y're it bause if you regier in the ci more

you pay, that ll taxBut if you rister ur your truck to the to yo cotta up North. Andtill dve in the ty of lwaukee, you'r skirtingtate l and that ll tax that yore nothen you're notng. All righ So ani

am kicking ound tthe spreadsheethe numberfor ofstimated for the ineased ernight parkin fees. Tal 6.9 milliodollar or s But we have 6illionn the budg. That more just nd of a consertive eimate so that

we're t over bueting. We mighhave aew fewer ople. I think at was aid by 2ain factors. Onis thehart. That wasur chart toe or gto still verify its vacity.Ou know th the fund it'setter be conrvative than

oerwise Kuzmstakesn the wrong directn willeally put us I Yeah, d thenut the other thing is it even ough the commission mada greapoint thatf we had just en keeping with I would be he anywa but we

didn't And this ia drasc change. Could have chges in conser behavior. Pple might.Nd we nt to predict it. Bu you know, it uld changeho prodes permits when a how and so weust we didn't wanto. We nt to

bud in some sensivity nce u want to talkbout kping up wh cpi. One thi that didn changin the revenue seion ofhe budget is t dockle scooter free. Sohat's are we able t helpWhat's the pross to chan the

revenue tt the st so at is one thin We just had meetinat we go into8 wille black or t we're going rough e ocess putting out aew RFfor thnext round. Anas we gthrough that pcess, what wve see what other

fees cane addeor adstments. And sjust bed many cversations we' had and puic Wor committee, otr platforms, stryingo ild th. And that's w right now 's theame. But ase go into 28, at's I co out wh the

better? Flexibity to renegotte tha coractednytime. Yeah, something th's sepate from yet e larger thingBut ye so ithere. So it snded le there was anppetitto negotie. The contrac includes se serv

provisions foallowi for the compa allong use to operate on sidewalk. Whent espeally there rrible impactshat we've en. Haened. Companieare fiing this. The uss themselves f not followg city ordinans.

And theye keepg the venue.E should not b tting them keeall ofhat venue. We coulhave fther discussis. We' been talking with the citattorn's office what we can a can'to. We havsome? Ah. With tt. But it

all ils down to the reementhat we have that the ty thathe Departnt of Public Wks has signedith Li. And one of thprovisns that contra is that wre allowed to negotie that contracand any time, coect? Tre

are a loof members of e council' I thi it's time. Thank you. Tnk youFor the MADAM Air, the last estion have voluntary feetor e streetcar th usersould moy to t city voluntary. If they' enjoyhe service,

they like theiair condioning think that's aossibity. Rectly to the ansportion fund, t somether benevolen city purpo, homess outreach pond osomething likehat. Th peoplcan just keep e change. Ye for t

change. All ght. Tnk you very mu. Ank yovery much, Mad Chr. Tha you all arounon the doless scooters.Hen you'repproacng the new rfp onhe discussionscan yo please rea out f feedback for ose ofs who have

a hh use inur disict, you know, ke some I meanwe justhe numberlike Iowa fromumber sony decions on that wl, ain, y know, in a wa I do think 's ovell a positive ing. Iike that. Thers some treats w

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types thato in t past, the sec s been the poi perso fothe multi-moda We ha hired new invidual gets into lot of multi-dal na is To Mattingly. Sos you go thrgh, hetarted to be wh somell there's new Anso

just be a n point pers. I kn Mike and so kd reachut as we can me thin to know. You tually wanto hireomeone who has been doing ts arou the gentlen, buto start tohing bases in ur offes know. Scott. I

juswantedo add on to what othememberallus wasayingi mean, to hav an optional, Iould en bring as faas having justhe devi on the where u can st tap. You cawrap wtever pay.T just happene You know, it

crges y a book or whateverAnd th again, it righ But ill it'll go towards lping ntinue, you know, or help th our inrests e keep up with hey,ou being able write moreype of thing, t I wod lo to sewhat

somethingike that, you ow, inalled on oustreet car wou cost d mebodynd again, I ju tap Ye, thiss a question me for supeaccounat home unless anybodyhares e. E curis thing that Iuess the stetcar

scussion is king me think is, y kn, the arts as well. It's not gralar engh. There's likef. 47 million dolr unrericted fund balce defit buusually when y look th positn, you're lookg at what asse over

liabities. These a kind weirassetsecause even if all h## r stakor assets witht curring that palty fm the feral governmentSo as 's eir ilquid, but theye alst fron and that way So tt's just sometng

curious that notic on the tstanding toda Fantaic. Weill not see torrow n next week. Sbasic mmer, I'm st a reminder.Lease reh out.Ou know, now t alde are gng to be worki diligentlyn any ssible

amenents. I just a you a usual,esponds respond to o bees. We can g thingmoving. Wel try to fit. Ll tryo she out what we n. We appriate that. We t informion pretty ear to, at t time id we don't

reallyave mu to share this putting sohank y to evybody. We triesomethg w in doing thiall inne day was, I'llet you back later. But Io wanto thank alof you for youwork. People ithe ci of Milwaue. So l

the river do, but we're ju don'the sectio But I still nhing comptrolr budg division. Mean, you're pt of tse presentatis are w done or intoigh ge. Chris Lee, w is dng a wderful job keeping us gng to

lf. We had I think we'vesked mamum qutions more tha ever befor We hano Gatling ich was kind ointereing. So I havmy ownook is a man on Ce. He t I do want to thk I wa to thank my colleagu who'vasked so

many questions rely prered in advance th we camaximize it anthank l of you for responding to ose. Swalk arou her neck Let'get througtonigh Definitely go brewer I think it's r goalle item e is going to

be held to cl the air to 6 o '01 anhearinno objection.