2026-10-27 - Planning Board

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00:02.66] Okay, good evening. This is the Tuesday, October 27th meeting of the Stamford Planning Board regular

00:13.21] meeting and capital budget. Before we dive into our agenda, I would like to note that we have had

00:23.96] some shifts and additions among our ranks on the Planning Board. So I'd like to first welcome

00:33.08] Peter Janoff, who has joined as an alternate member of the board and also acknowledged that

00:39.72] Drew McKay, who has been serving as an alternate member, was actually a couple months ago approved

00:46.68] by the Board of Representatives to now have a full member role. So with that, I want to go ahead and

00:56.44] first, Peter, if you want to introduce yourself a little bit and kind of what brought you to the

01:01.61] board and then we can do just kind of a go around of our board members so that you can hear a bit

01:06.41] from each of us. Well, thank you very much. Good afternoon. Good evening, all. It's a pleasure to be

01:13.14] part of this process and part of this board. I was, as you know, nominated by the mayor and

01:21.27] I had requested of the mayor about a year ago to get involved in city activities. I presented my

01:28.76] credentials, my qualifications to Mayor Simmons and invited a meeting. There was no particular

01:35.46] agenda, but just the desire to participate in government and to, you know, work towards making

01:43.75] Stanford a better place, if that's possible. And I love the city. I wanted to, since I'm semi-retired,

01:52.47] I have a lot of free time on my hands. I wanted to dedicate some of my background and experience to

02:00.18] the city and to the mission, to the mission of the comp plan. And I was fortunate enough to be

02:08.22] processed through the system and ultimately selected as an alternate. So I'm looking very

02:15.86] much forward to learning how this process works, getting involved in the brainstorming of this

02:24.41] committee, and hopefully I'll be able to make some sort of modest contribution to the betterment of

02:30.92] our board. Right. Thank you very much. We really appreciate your energy and your commitment to the

02:37.43] city. So I'll kind of start with the round of introductions. I'm Jennifer Gudsenow. I am now

02:44.31] the chair of the planning board. I joined first as an alternate back in 2014, 2015. The months

02:53.87] blur together a little bit and then became a full member about a year after that and have now and

03:01.63] am now the most senior member of this group. My background is as an urban planner and I work as

03:09.95] a nonprofit director here in Stanford. So I'll hand it over to Jeremy as our vice chair. Great.

03:18.41] Thanks, Jennifer. Jeremy Linder, vice chair of the planning board here. I've been in Stanford

03:25.68] for just under 14 years, live downtown. And my professional background, I work for a national

03:35.44] construction management firm as a project manager. So I believe that is a good fit in reviewing

03:43.75] some of the plans and continuing to learn about the budgetary side of this board. And happy to

03:53.67] be able to give back to the city of Stanford. Thank you. Thanks, Jeremy. Chet, do you want to

03:59.53] go next? Oh, you're on mute. Always forget. Sorry. I'm Chet salad. I was nominated and

04:15.02] appointed by the mayor in 2024, I believe. So this is technically the well, July 1st was

04:24.96] technically the start of my third year. And I up until I think it was this past April, I was

04:34.66] serving as an alternate. And then like you drew, I was nominated to to fill a member seat. So

04:43.10] that's the current role that I'm playing. Okay, next to true. Good evening, Drew Micaiah,

04:55.66] Stanford resident for just about 12 years now. I live in the North Stanford section of the city,

05:05.21] been a member here almost a year now, coming up on it, just now becoming a full, full member

05:15.85] background. Similar to Jeremy, I work for a national construction management company,

05:23.98] specializing in regional developments, local to, you know, Connecticut area. So definitely well

05:32.62] suited for, you know, looking at all these different things that the planning board has

05:38.10] going on. Okay. And Ashley. Hi, I'm Ashley Lye. I also have a background as an urban planner.

05:47.04] I work for a consulting company doing planning consulting throughout the Hudson Valley in

05:51.84] Connecticut. I previously served on the environmental protection board for the city of

05:56.64] Stanford for about six years. And then I served as a representative on the board of

06:02.25] representatives for four years representing district 20. I was appointed to the planning

06:06.47] board the earlier part of this year as an alternate. Great. And I'm very glad to have

06:15.02] this esteemed and dedicated group to bring in this capacity. Last, before we dive in,

06:21.93] I do want to just acknowledge that representative Zachary for the board of representatives has

06:28.89] joined us. We have a standing invitation when we're doing these capital budget meetings to

06:36.27] invite members of the board of representatives fiscal committee and the board of finance to

06:41.79] listen into the presentations. And so thank you for joining us again. So first on our agenda

06:52.94] is the planning board meeting minutes from our October 13th, 2026 meeting.

07:00.42] And we do have quorum to vote on that. Do I have any amendments or questions about the minutes?

07:13.92] Seeing none. And actually, sorry, let me do well. So just as a matter of procedure, so you know, Peter,

07:19.32] so only people who are present for the meeting can vote on the minutes. And our alternates vote

07:25.73] when so we have five full members. And so if any of our full members is absent or we've had some

07:32.11] vacancies as well, then I assign alternates to each vote. So that's how we'll work through

07:39.63] procedurally. But for October 13, do I have a motion on the minutes for October 13?

07:52.00] So moved.

07:53.82] Okay, I think I saw both Chad and Drew at the same time. So

07:58.67] move for approval from Chad. Second from Drew. All in favor, raise your hand.

08:03.19] And it passes. Thank you very much. All right. Next on our agenda is requests for

08:17.54] authorization supplemental capital project appropriation requests. The first is for

08:25.79] CEMS Vine Road trailer project CP400040. Total amount requested $33,913. This is for replacement

08:40.18] of CEMS Medic 4 trailer on Vine Road. This unit is manned 24 hours per day. The current trailer

08:47.17] isn't severe repair, disrepair, and the project would involve purchasing a new trailer, removing

08:52.61] the old trailer, and replacing the substructure concrete piers and utility connections.

08:59.13] So presenting on this item will be...

09:06.22] Did we end up adding Ed Brown?

09:10.84] Yes, Eddie's here and Lou as well will probably kick off.

09:14.62] Got it. Okay, so if you want to introduce yourself for the record and walk through

09:18.81] this supplemental request. Good evening, everyone. My name is Lou Durovus,

09:23.35] Director of Public Safety for the City of Stanford. I appreciate all your time tonight.

09:29.12] The first item here is for $33,913. As Jennifer already summarized, it is for replacement of the

09:39.37] trailer for our Medic 4 station off of Vine Road. This project began back in 2018 in which

09:48.73] they were soliciting funds so that they could replace the trailer. However, COVID then hit in

09:55.44] 2020 and it derailed the whole project. During that time, it just continually deteriorated to a

10:04.32] point where it's barely operational at this point. We were able to secure some funding back, I believe,

10:11.65] in 2024 or 2025 to rebuild that site into a fixed structure. We had put that out to RFP

10:21.98] and the bids were coming in way higher than we had anticipated. So we had to go to plan B and

10:29.59] we had priced out replacing the trailer that's there with another trailer rather than doing

10:37.20] what we initially had planned to do with a new facility. With that said, it had gone out to bid

10:50.41] and we had come back a little short with the funding and we were able to get a donation,

10:57.71] I believe, of $33,913 so that we could fund the entire project, which was $287,000, which is what

11:06.30] is needed and that's what we're here to present to you all. So hopefully we can get that funding

11:12.42] and get this project that is long overdue underway and Chief Brown, I don't know if I missed anything.

11:20.61] No, you got it perfectly. Yeah, there was a shortfall in funds and SAMS, Stanford EMS,

11:26.49] we were able to make up the shortfall so that we could fund the entire project.

11:30.33] Are there any questions from the board on this project? Seeing none, this is very straightforward.

11:43.36] I'm glad that you were able to come up with the balance of funds needed. So for this item,

11:55.45] we'll go ahead and have Ashley vote and Peter Feer, and we are missing one of our full members

12:02.01] today, Ravi Subramanian, who is our secretary. So again, I'll be rotating between you and Ashley

12:08.81] for, I guess, actually just these two voting items today because the bulk of our agenda is

12:13.88] capital budget presentations, which do not require any voting action from our members.

12:19.29] So with Ashley on this item, I do have a motion for the SAMS Vine Road trailer appropriation.

12:29.15] So first from Jeremy, do I have a second? Second from Drew, all in favor,

12:34.09] raise your hand and it passes. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Thank you.

12:43.77] Thank you very much. Next on our supplemental capital project docket is Micro Transit Program

12:53.03] Project CP 400030. Total amount requested $2,314,195.34. Additional state funding for the city's

13:07.09] stand forward micro transit service to continue with the existing service area and operations.

13:13.50] And Luke, I presume you're presenting if you want to introduce yourself for the record.

13:17.97] Sure. Good evening board. Luke Buttonweiser, senior transportation planner in the transportation

13:23.11] department. Before tonight, as the chair mentioned, it's additional appropriation of

13:27.23] state grant monies of a little north of $2.3 million to fund our micro transit service

13:36.20] called stamp forward. This is a state funded service that since launching in November of

13:41.94] 2024, has completed about 145,000 rides within the city of Stanford, which is essentially kind

13:48.31] of like, you know, Bulls head south, more or less, it's Monday through Sunday, 6am through 8pm.

13:55.19] I always kind of like to describe it as a mix between a bus and an Uber, where it is shared

13:59.24] vans that go around the city. But you do have, you know, you can order on demand, on demand,

14:04.05] basically on an app. It's been very successful, very popular. And this is additional money from

14:12.23] the state to continue the program moving forward. Happy to take any questions. Thank you.

14:20.83] Any questions from the board? I have a, this doesn't bear on accepting the additional state

14:32.05] funds, but I am curious. So this is described as continuing in the existing service area. I'm

14:38.45] curious if there's any in any exploration of expanding the service area in the future with

14:44.33] additional funds. Yeah, no, we have we set up scenarios to be able to expand to, you know,

14:49.93] Glenbrook and Springdale or maybe expand the service hours, expand up the mid ridges area,

14:56.09] Long Ridge and High Ridge to maybe up to the merit, for instance, it's, you know, bearing scales of

15:01.85] funding, that increased funding that would be available, there was a, a, not, you know,

15:07.94] a significant effort within the state to have the state pass and the recent budget additional

15:13.09] funding for this. So it based on that effort, it looks like we weren't really in a position to

15:19.30] ask for more money to expand the service, but we were just happy to be able to keep the existing

15:22.82] service as is, and we are looking for private contributions maybe from, you know, corporations

15:29.01] that want to take advantage of the service instead of running their own shuttle service.

15:32.94] It is, there is a fair that's associated with it, but it's, you know, it's a dollar 75 fair,

15:37.73] which helps a little bit for the overall operating costs, but, you know, it's not enough to be able

15:43.32] to significantly expand service operations. Okay, that's interesting to know that there is

15:49.01] that option for, for private contributions into the funding model to, for the same period.

15:56.57] Oh, again, just a curiosity. So for this item, Peter, you are able to vote on this

16:06.95] approval as to if there are no further questions. And again, noting the source of state grant

16:14.34] funding, I do have a motion on this item. Drew, move for approval. Second from Chet, all in favor.

16:25.07] Trace your hand, and it passes. All right, thank you very much. I'll be back in hopefully

16:31.83] less than an hour, I'll see. Yes, we'll try to keep it moving. There you go. Thank you.

16:37.89] Okay, all right. So now we are on to our capital budget presentations. First is

16:49.23] Office of Public Safety, Health and Welfare. Lee, if you want to come on back and walk us through.

16:56.40] Yes. Hello. This is for the Public Safety Complex. I know I presented this the last few years.

17:08.89] This is on behalf of the mayor. As you know, one of our main priorities is focusing on critical

17:16.01] infrastructure for the city and making sure that we're set up for success moving into the future.

17:22.46] This particular request is phase two out of a three-phase project. Phase one was a needs

17:31.42] assessment that was conducted in a site feasibility study, which we've been working on for almost four

17:38.11] years now with all the public safety departments, along with a contracted architect service.

17:45.96] Phase one cleared all the obstacles that we had to make sure that the site, which is actually

17:52.70] city-owned, would be able to house everything that we're trying to accomplish with that site

17:57.50] in regards to this Public Safety Complex. We're here in regards to this request for funding,

18:06.59] which is for $1.469 million. The request total is $2.5 million. However, we were able to secure

18:18.41] $1,031,000 from a federal earmark from Congressman Himes, who was in support of this project.

18:26.45] This $2.5 million is going to be requested for architectural and engineering fees to keep this

18:32.61] project moving forward. As you could see on this particular form, the future capital forecasts have

18:43.05] been left blank accidentally. We have to add in there. We specifically tried to keep this

18:51.33] from conflicting with what we're trying to do as a city with our large investment on the

18:59.94] school buildings. What we would do is last year we were requesting the funding, and that would have

19:05.31] put us in the time frame of being able to move forward with this project in 2930, and we would

19:14.10] request the cost of the entire site, the hard cost and the remaining of the soft cost of $66

19:21.61] million. That would be getting pushed out in this particular budget request to 3031. We specifically

19:31.69] did that so that we wouldn't conflict with the school budget projects. By then, all the school

19:38.91] funding should be completed, and we'd be able to focus on this piece of infrastructure. I just

19:45.12] want to point out that this has been supported by the Mayor in a letter to both boards, the Board

19:51.39] of Representative, Board of Finance back in May, and she goes into detail and why it's such a

19:58.65] priority. I think that was submitted in the package. I'm not sure. If not, I can get that to

20:04.17] you. Basically, what this facility will do, we're looking to consolidate two of our fire facilities,

20:11.86] which is main headquarters down on Main Street and Station 5, which is in a flood zone. These

20:19.99] buildings are in severe need of a lot of capital dollars that need to go in to make them operational

20:28.66] again. What we're looking to do is consolidate them into this facility. We'd be adding a cyber

20:39.35] crime facility, as well as a digital forensic and fusion center for the police department,

20:45.45] so we could focus more on technology. It'd be a heavy focus on technology in this particular

20:50.63] building. It would house a footprint for our SINS, our Emergency Medical Response, in the downtown

20:56.67] area. It would provide us with an opportunity to establish a new primary 911 center. Our current

21:04.95] one is over 50 years old, and our secondary location isn't really where we want it to be,

21:14.08] so this would become our primary location. Then that would automatically give us a pretty decent

21:19.93] backup for our city, our size that continues to grow. It would also provide us with, in regards

21:28.54] to emergency management and expanding our footprint in Region 1 here in Southern Fairfield County,

21:34.71] it would allow us to have a new state-of-the-art emergency operation center to go along with that

21:41.53] fusion center, so we could make sure that our first responders have the most up-to-date information

21:49.56] and resources at their disposal to make sure that we're keeping our city safe. I would also like

21:57.67] to point out that in regards to this, the mayor is completely in support of this, as I stated.

22:04.81] There was a board resolution. The Board of Reps put forward a board resolution 4112

22:12.28] to explore this possibility, which is one of the reasons why this project started several years

22:20.49] ago. Also, this project is directly in line with our comprehensive plan. It will have a

22:31.04] traditional design. It will have public neighborhood services, improving operational coordination,

22:37.13] and it's designed to be fiscally responsible. If you have any questions or anything else on this,

22:44.59] I'd be more than willing to try and address them. We have any questions from the board?

22:52.58] Chad, I see your hand. Yeah. Lou, last year, when this first came up,

23:02.98] you had just, I think, had started the feasibility study, but it had not been completed at that point,

23:09.06] where the cost analysis had not been completed. I personally have not seen any of that

23:17.08] documentation. I don't know if it was ultimate, if it in fact was distributed to the planning

23:23.40] board in any fashion, but might you be able to make some of that information available to us?

23:29.98] Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So, Chad, we're in a much better position. Each year, we've continued to

23:35.20] evolve this, and now we're basically at a position where we need to move on to phase two and have

23:40.96] those engineering and architectural designs done. But we had submitted a full packet, which included

23:47.34] the project cost worksheet, the conceptual designs, the feasibility study, and all this

23:54.52] other documentation, which laid out the vision for this particular project. So, I could definitely

23:59.89] get you that packet in a timely fashion, because we already have all that put together.

24:07.15] Very good. I personally would like to see it. Yeah, no, absolutely. Perhaps other board members

24:11.51] may as well, but I'd like to see it. Thank you. Member Senator Zachary, you are on mute.

24:25.85] Sorry about that. Lou, thank you. Now that you've pushed the construction schedule out by,

24:32.71] have you adjusted the construction cost at all? So, yeah, we did get an updated

24:38.13] project cost worksheet, and it had increased by 6% over last year's projected cost sheet.

24:46.18] That could be presented in the packet as well. All right. Okay, thank you. I'd like to see that

24:52.56] packet as well, obviously. Yeah, no, absolutely. I know the board of reps had gotten it in last

24:58.72] year's budget presentations, but I can make sure that everybody gives this particular board gets

25:03.80] it again. And I just wanted to point out one more thing in regards to how are we going to

25:09.30] come up with this? Because I know this is not a small capital request for the city,

25:15.18] and we try and do as much as we can as fiscally responsible as we can, but we're making sure that

25:19.98] we put ourselves in a good position. We're very confident based on the grant opportunities that

25:25.94] are out there and speaking with OPM, that we'd be able to come up with approximately a third of the

25:32.71] cost of this facility through grant funding. Then we're pretty confident that we would be able to

25:39.19] offset the cost by not investing in some of the current facilities, which is station one and

25:48.06] station five, with some of the major capital expenses that we're looking to put into those

25:53.91] facilities. We were estimating about 10 to 15 million in savings there. And then depending

26:00.80] on what the city wants to do with those sites, once we complete this site, we'll have that

26:06.68] property available to us at the two locations. So that's something that could be up for discussion

26:12.60] with the boards if they pursue selling that real estate or doing other projects at those sites.

26:19.49] But that's a path where we've put together where we believe that we'd have to come up with a third

26:27.37] of the cost of the estimated on this project cost worksheet. Thank you very much for walking

26:40.10] through the kind of broader financial roadmap for the capital expenses to come on this.

26:48.66] So I think the only things that I would just kind of note that aren't questions, but I think

26:56.21] just in the justification for inclusion, you've noted the kind of the way that there are like

27:04.65] some cost savings, like future cost savings that this would offset. So I think that is something

27:10.54] that can be included in here, continues ongoing project, the leverages other funds. I'm glad that

27:17.88] you've been able to get this congressional earmark for the design phase and plan related as well.

27:26.76] So I'm just kind of making sure that we have that assembled on our sheet. And I do see in

27:32.20] the capital forecast history, that's 66 million, but again, just making sure that it's also set

27:39.40] in the Sears request. But there being no other questions. Thank you very much. Thank you for

27:49.30] your time. And I'll make sure I get that packet out to you guys. So you guys could review that

27:52.98] information. Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you. Next on our agenda is operations short term

28:02.00] financing capital. And here you want to introduce yourself for the record, please.

28:12.66] Yes. My name is Jason Thurman. I'm the current fleet manager for the operations fleet department.

28:18.57] And tonight we're going to be talking about the up and coming hopefully added on units to our

28:28.50] fleet. So the first one is we're in vehicle right 65? Yes, first is citywide vehicle replacement

28:40.01] upgrade. And we've now got the specs up on screen. Thanks, Tony. Cool. All right. So the first one

28:47.46] would be an ODB leaf vac over an Azuzu NRR or something close to that. I had a little slideshow,

28:55.54] but it doesn't look like I can share it on the screen. So just a quick overview, this this

29:02.42] vehicle unlike the current vac trucks that we hold on Jason, Jason, if you if you want to share

29:08.82] your screen, you can, Tony can pull down the the CP sheet, you can share it for now. And then

29:16.68] we can pull back up the CP sheet when they do discussion. Sure. Okay. Yeah, because I it's

29:22.57] it's easier for me to show you what these trucks are, of course, because otherwise it's just a

29:26.97] long explanation. So just run it really quick. So this number one is the leaf vac. Now this is

29:40.60] operated by one person probably followed by one other person and perhaps a pickup truck behind

29:47.74] or we put enough lighting on it so it can go by itself. This is this works a lot better for

29:54.26] people that don't have like a CDLA to some most of the good portion of the backs that we have now

30:01.92] have to be operated by a person with a certain amount of qualifications. This reduces that it

30:06.89] also reduces manpower. We already have one that works really well. It looks like we probably need

30:12.55] to get another one because we're getting a little behind every year. That's the second one is HD

30:21.35] plow trucks. I'm sure we've all heard this before this fleet is very old. And because of a lot of

30:30.13] spending clustered together, followed by excuse me one sec, followed by a 10 year gap between

30:42.39] spending for the for this fleet, it has left it very hard to correct. So I'm going to start

30:49.17] requesting two to three every year. And this would probably cut down on the amount of trucks we have

30:57.25] to buy in one shot 15 years down the road. So that's 55628 stormwater. We used to have two of

31:06.77] these stekos and they are really hard to find and they're a sole source vendor that makes them.

31:16.06] So this is a kind of like a mini bucket truck that kind of goes in the storm drains and it

31:22.05] cleans out all the hard debris and leaves and gunk and stuff like that. We usually have two,

31:27.49] one of them kind of doesn't work anymore. Let's just put it that way. So we need another one.

31:34.90] It's really important for for flooding. It goes along with the 2035 plan. That's all for that.

31:42.96] And then we have the Ford F-250s with plows and lift gates. So this these would be the new

31:52.56] supervisor trucks for highway department and the three that are currently with the highway

31:56.95] department supervisors would be going to the day to day operations. And the reason why we do that

32:05.41] is because the first four or five years of life with the supervisors, they're kept really well

32:10.43] and we get good time out of them. And then we send them over to to do the hard work and replace

32:15.90] the supervisor vehicles. It kind of extends. It's been something that the city has apparently done

32:19.50] for quite some time where the department takes care of them the best, has their time with it,

32:24.55] then passes it on for the next. Next up is the Freightliner 114 SD hooklift. So we have a

32:35.29] LEAFVAC container. We have a LEAFVAC trailer. We do not have the hooklift that drives this

32:41.03] thing down the road. So this would be the replacement workhorse for another vehicle

32:47.98] that we don't have anymore. I just want to note, I think that the slides are not advancing

32:53.70] for us. Oh, I don't have a hooklift already yet. I don't have one for a hooklift because it's just

32:59.92] it's simply a truck with a, it looks like a roll off that you would see dumpsters get pulled

33:05.95] onto. It's exactly that. There's no picture here for it. So it's just a standard hooklift truck.

33:15.23] And the next would be the Marina needs a utility body pickup truck. The one that it currently has

33:23.46] is blowing oil, creating oil, smoking. It's time for it to go. It's rotted out. The body's rotted

33:29.53] out. So this it's a 65 grand, but it looks like they'll be doing a lot more work coming up soon.

33:38.08] So the longer we wait on this, the worse off it's going to get. And that's for short term vehicle.

33:48.92] And I'll just note to occur pre-meetings that the current balance in the account is expended to be

33:56.48] pretty much completely depleted by the end of the fiscal year. So all those funds are earmarked.

34:02.37] Everything but eight 8k. I have a note that for the freight liners that the cost of repairs

34:16.18] annually is quite high currently. So there's a kind of cost offset and savings for actually

34:21.58] replacing these. Yes. So there's eight Mac trucks that we currently own and fixing eight of them

34:28.71] every year is costing us a new truck at 250, 260,000. We're doing some work to get that down,

34:36.20] but we're not going to take too much out of it, especially with costs only going up every year.

34:41.01] Okay. Are there any questions from the board on the set of items for vehicle

34:53.06] replacement upgrade? Jason, I'm curious to know, are the order of these

35:11.75] vehicles expressed in order of priority in your comment section?

35:16.83] Correct. I think both the Excel sheet and the other requests are both, they should be the same.

35:26.78] And they Excel actually is more accurate, if any. I think I saw when Tony had up the spreadsheet,

35:38.71] I think we still need to, some of us who are receiving hard copies still need to get the

35:43.12] hard copy of it, but I appreciate you laying that. I can get you whatever you want, whatever you need.

35:53.21] So that's how it's broken out. That's the one. And then just there are no other questions on

36:02.78] vehicles. Should we shift to citywide equipment replacement and upgrade?

36:11.59] Right. So the first line item will be the OSHA regulated safety equipment. We did a full vehicle

36:19.70] safety audit when I first sat in the chair and we are in disrepair. So pretty much every heavy

36:28.82] duty truck is supposed to have certain items in them. So wheel chocks to keep the vehicle stable,

36:34.37] drip pans, which is more of a deep thing, the Department of Environment. Fire extinguishers

36:40.42] is another OSHA. Triangles is an OSHA. And first aid kits is for the health and safety

36:46.91] of the drivers and everybody's around them. So I did a full audit, came up with all the numbers,

36:55.41] got the lowest bids, went through Syntas, which is the company we currently use for so very many

37:00.93] other things, and came up with something very close to the 71, 882. And this is mandated stuff,

37:08.44] a good percentage of it's mandated. The second one is the cab heaters for HD plow trucks.

37:16.45] So this is going to go, and during the winter, I believe our hours were 9,017 across the highway

37:26.48] department fleet for just snowstorms. And that is quite a bit of fuel and price, but it's way more

37:35.43] in the amount of money we lose when we go to sell these trucks and the time that we have to sell them

37:39.75] when the hours have gone beyond the time where we would keep the truck. So it's not a bad thing

37:51.78] to put into them. What this would do is it would, when the drivers are out plowing, when they finish

37:58.30] their route, rather than sitting in their truck and idling and running hours up and causing

38:03.14] potential leaks, etc. They can shut the truck off, these heaters stay running off of the truck's

38:10.10] fuel, and instead of one gallon per hour, it runs on, I think, 0.01 gallons per hour. And it keeps

38:17.61] everything warm while the guys are inside, and when they come back out, the truck's ready to go.

38:22.62] So that's a hundred trucks. That includes collections and a couple other departments

38:30.46] for the heavy duty trucks. The next is for parks. Now, this is an interesting one. So we have,

38:42.97] I believe, this legislation saying that we must go to EV, both municipalities of public

38:50.13] and commercial, by a certain date. It's, I believe, it's chapter 211-3.3. This is for,

39:02.65] we have about a year left until the back pack blowers and gas trimmers, which are the line

39:09.23] items, four and five. We legally have to change over, I think, within the next year or so.

39:16.45] The mowers we should be getting into as soon as possible, so we can have a routine place to

39:23.74] charge them and stuff like that. It takes quite a while to come up with all this stuff. They're

39:28.68] not limited to sitting where they are. They can go pretty much anywhere, but we have to have a

39:33.99] plan. The batteries and banks, that just goes with the echo backpacks and the grass trimmers.

39:46.92] The hedge trimmer is the same in the battery banks. So then we have highway wheel loader

39:55.09] bucket replacements. We're losing about 13 yards, I think, per snowstorm across three different salt

40:02.23] domes. And this is because the current buckets we have on the wheel loaders are falling apart.

40:09.09] They're bent, and they're no longer creating a seal. So by the time the loader goes into the salt

40:16.36] dome, comes out, turns around with what would have been a full bucket of salt, we're losing

40:22.47] quite a bit between the dome and the truck. So this is for three of them. And then the last

40:30.16] thing is the enclosed leaf fat catch containers. The ones that we have are outdated in disrepair.

40:38.32] We can't get parts from so we resort to putting screens that you'd find in windows and houses

40:44.83] to keep the filtering together. And that's pretty much all we got. So we need to get those

40:50.65] changed over as soon as possible. That's it for short term equipment.

40:57.84] And if maybe it might come up in the questions, but if there are any pictures,

41:01.82] let's see my instructor, feel free to share those. Andrew saw your hand and then shut.

41:09.30] Thank you. Item it looks like line 20, battery banks. The number doesn't add up at six times

41:18.18] 900 is 5,400 not 54,000. Why is that like that? Could it be 9,000? Yes, yes, it should be 9,000.

41:40.26] Okay, thank you. And while you're correcting, it looks like line 22, two times 44,000 should be

41:55.96] 88,000 not 132,000. Why do these numbers change? That's supposed to be three of them. Okay. Yeah,

42:09.76] I don't need to have a cat. So that's the those those two. If there's any questions,

42:17.75] I'd be more than happy to send you guys more information on all this stuff, including the

42:22.23] legislation that comes with it and how the stuff ties to the 2035 plan. And I would just check

42:34.34] your math on some of those other cells to check them all. Yeah, they're not like 15,

42:41.33] bro, 15 isn't right either. So 16. Correct. Yeah, just I would just double check all these numbers.

42:49.60] The math isn't nothing. No, it's not happens. And I triple checked it. So I'm not wondering

42:55.96] if this is like an old, old Excel sheet. Well, I'll leave you to wrangle with that and,

43:03.45] and cross reference with Tony to make sure that everything's reflected properly in the sheets.

43:08.72] Here. This account, again, is expected to be spent down by the end of the fiscal year.

43:18.23] I do want to encourage if you can add into the capital forecast for the out years, as

43:26.91] as you've had already for vehicle replacement upgrades. That's also just helpful to give

43:33.63] some perspective on this investment like we should be planning for for the future.

43:39.26] Okay. Oh, so like I did with the plow trucks. If the formula of how we're going to keep it

43:45.20] moving without. Yeah, that's an estimate of the capital forecast is helpful. And, you know,

43:50.38] especially if you know that some of these are going to be kind of multi year face investments.

43:56.48] All right. And Tracy, your hand is still up. Do you have a follow up question?

44:02.28] Yeah, I did have a follow up question, which is you're looking at buying

44:08.34] these backpack blowers and grass trimmers, which will be gas powered. There's a city ordinance

44:14.00] to move everything over to EV, you know, electric powered or battery powered in two years.

44:22.01] Yes. These are all actually battery powered. Oh, I'll make sure to add that in because I see what

44:28.71] you're talking about now. So yes, everything here and all the battery banks, this is all

44:34.58] for onsite charging for every single one of these. They're all everything's going to go electric.

44:40.23] Great. Thank you. Thank you for the clarification. So sorry for the mix up.

44:44.19] And again, so this is the that's related to the state ordinance you had noted. There's a

44:48.93] requirement for us to convert our equipment to EV, which also sits with our city ordinance as well.

44:56.70] All right. I think that that is it then for short term financing. So we want to go ahead

45:06.41] then to switch to the set under operations fleet management. All right. And again, if it's helpful

45:16.24] to have your slides up rather than the sheet. Yeah, leave that to your discretion. Yeah,

45:23.50] these slides, I'm just going to stop sharing. Alright, stop sharing already. Got it. So yeah,

45:29.65] there's no slides for this stuff because it's, it's, it's complicated and it would get boring.

45:35.86] It's, it's just basically we have to, for the first line is the hydraulic room tooling. We

45:43.16] are spending a lot of money outsourcing our, our hydraulics, our pumps, our pistons, our valves,

45:51.52] everything like that. So we just need to tool a room so that the guys, the guys are going to

46:00.66] learn how to do it. There's two guys here that already know how to do it. Just rebuild everything

46:05.10] onsite in house. Last year we had a PO issue and the only hydraulic company that we were using

46:13.95] decided to shut us off because of a payment issue. So in the middle of the winter, in the

46:20.14] middle of snowstorms, we were down 14 cloud trucks because we had no pistons. And I never

46:26.23] want to see that happen again. And it's a pretty low, I'm not saying every dollar counts, but this

46:31.11] is a pretty low investment for a pretty large return. We have one hydraulic press here that

46:38.78] has probably been here since the building was built and it's still working. And a lot of the

46:43.45] tooling that you use to redo hydraulic stuff, aside from just replacing small blades and homes

46:48.97] and stuff like that, most of this stuff is built to last 30, 40 years. And doing some math from

46:57.42] what we paid one stop and, and the other companies that we use. If one company charges

47:06.64] an astronomical amount of labor, another company charges basically no labor. But if you look up

47:11.52] the parts, he's charging it four times the parts. So in order to get that taken care of, I could

47:17.26] probably get you guys a nice round number if I had a little time, but I could see the return on

47:23.31] investment being way higher than, than some other stuff that, that you'll see in at least in my

47:30.07] stuff. The second thing is the North Bay tooling. Right now we have kind of the, let's say in a

47:40.57] terrible way, but we have the kids running around the parents. So we have heavy truck mechanics

47:46.50] that are working on, you know, large trucks, bodies in the air, cranes moving around. And then we have

47:52.17] equipment mechanics that are working on little stuff. And right now as they're sharing bays,

47:56.93] it's creating kind of a hazard and a little bit of a backup as far as, as far as production and

48:03.12] as far as safety. You know, people sharing tools, you got air hoses draped over lifts, you have

48:09.20] hydraulic hoses where you don't belong. It's becoming kind of a little bit of an OSHA thing.

48:13.60] So this money would be paying to get all the tooling, the equipment mechanics need for

48:20.26] lawnmowers, for cars, trucks, and then the smaller like komotas and stuff like that

48:26.80] over to their shop. And we have a whole area already there. It's pretty much ready to go

48:32.19] as a, as a facility, but we need to add some extra stuff there. Again, Tony, that's the,

48:40.42] the vehicle maintenance equipment. Okay. Do we have questions from our members

48:57.19] on either the fuel islands or the vehicle maintenance equipment? I have a note here

49:11.57] from the pre-meetings about the, it might be helpful if you could explain what diesel exhaust

49:18.50] fuel is and the kind of requirement element of it there related to the fuel project.

49:24.00] And that's in what, this is the fuel island? On your fuel islands? Oh, okay. Yeah, let me,

49:30.21] so DEF is diesel exhaust fluid. It's something that the EPA put out, I believe was EPA and the

49:37.97] highway traffic association. I believe a little while back, it's kind of like an additive to the

49:44.51] catalytic converter and you would call for a diesel. It's a, it's called the diesel particular

49:49.71] filter. The DEF sprayed onto it while it's at a really high heat, lowers emissions. Every truck

49:57.74] that has a DEF system requires it. If you run out of the DEF while you're driving, you run out

50:02.38] of driving. The vehicle will go into limp mode and shut down and or just idle on the side of

50:08.33] the road until it's picked up by a tow truck. So this stuff is very caustic. It's acidic,

50:15.87] it leaves a mess, it corrodes metal. It's starting to become quite expensive and we have no way of

50:22.88] monitoring it, keeping it in one place or anything. So part of this money is to centralize the DEF

50:31.65] system the way that we centralized our fuel. So you have one key to your truck and you have one

50:37.58] key that goes to the fuel island. You go to the fuel island, get your fuel, move to the next

50:42.01] station, put your fuel key in, enter the mileage and it'll dispense DEF into your truck. And we're

50:48.13] going to, that'll be for a fire department to EMS, pretty much anybody that has a diesel that

50:54.88] gets fuel from us. But it'll cut down on safety issues and help us with inventory. If you want,

51:04.96] I can go to the fuel pumps and bases and sensor upgrade if you want. Sure. All right. The fuel

51:14.72] pumps, I can probably share my screen again because I have some stuff for that. You know

51:21.77] mine? So currently we have issues with our fire suppression system and we've been told it's not

51:43.91] going to go off. We promise, but this, the alarm bell goes off at least twice or three times a day.

51:51.71] Nobody actually knows why. So we probably have to run all new electrical. This is a full halon

51:57.02] system if I recall correctly. But they promise it's all operational and fine. I don't believe

52:03.61] that, but they keep testing it. So there's that part of it. There's the fuel pumps themselves

52:12.77] as new as they are. If you look at the rot, this is at the base of the fire, the fuel pumps. You

52:21.02] see in one picture, we have some water. I think that's diesel. This one, I think it's some water

52:26.22] to the right and they're all rounded out. So we need to replace the pumps. Mostly we have to

52:33.46] replace a little bit of the footing, a little bit of the curb, a couple of pipes. But once you get

52:38.80] into that, the dispensers themselves are running away. So they're going to have to replace with

52:43.55] the pumps. So then the sensor upgrade is for whatever sensors that are in here that are failing

52:49.41] and anything else that they find on the way. Okay. Well, there are no other questions on

53:05.20] these items. Thank you very much for your first year in this position running through this.

53:11.32] Oh, sorry. Jason, just one question for these, the fuel island in the vehicle maintenance

53:22.46] equipment. We have right now is the fuel islands is priority one and the vehicle maintenance

53:30.97] equipment is two. I just want to confirm that's accurate since we presented them in the opposite

53:36.20] order. Yes, that's correct. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much for your expertise and

53:49.55] looking at all of our systems. Thank you so much. Have a good night. You too. Okay. Next is special

53:58.75] revenue, Terry Connors rink. Yes. Good evening. My name is Kevin Murray, director of parks and

54:06.07] recreation. Tonight, I'll be going through two special revenue capital budgets. The first one

54:13.48] is for Terry Connors ice rink. The request here for our department is $105,000. I must add that

54:24.95] the unfunded balance will be going towards the completion of the cooling tower that is currently

54:32.40] being done and oversaw by our engineering department. So the request this year for

54:38.56] $105,000 is intended for our upgrade of our low E high ceiling reflective ceiling system

54:47.89] within our ice rink. The previous replacement of this happened in 2011. And this low E thermal

54:59.37] ceiling has a lifespan of 15 to 20 years. So we projected this in our out years the past couple

55:07.18] years from our previous ice rink manager. And this year we would like to ask for that $105,000.

55:18.92] And so for this item, so this is a special revenue fund. And so though this counts against

55:24.82] our bond limit, the expectation is that this would be repaid over time by the operating

55:33.49] funding for the rink. Correct. That is correct. Okay. Any other questions from the board on this

55:41.20] one? Okay. We can go to the Marina fund. Yes. Same situation. We are planning the request here

55:54.32] is for a million dollars. Again, the unfunded balance is for Marina dock upgrades. We are

56:01.80] targeting CZIC Marina for the replacements of the docks. Kind of similar what we just did

56:09.87] the year before with Kovalent Marina. The leg span of that Marina obviously is the deterioration

56:17.45] of the pilings and the decking needs to be upgraded. So we are looking to start the process

56:23.85] of working with our engineering department again, and see if we could apply for some state grants

56:34.16] and move forward with upgraded CZIC Marina as well. Any questions on this from the board?

56:48.73] I have a quick question, if I may. Sure. You checked off mandated legal on your spreadsheet.

56:57.52] What does that relate to? I would just maybe just for safety purposes for the docks,

57:15.71] for legality, for safety, for people using the dock for the slips, for the permits, for their

57:22.88] boats. The process for obviously obtaining a permit is kind of your spot for the season.

57:34.49] And obviously, you're renting that space. So obviously, with renting that space, your boat

57:41.50] is stored there for the season. So obviously, if anything deteriorates or anything goes wrong,

57:48.25] I would think it would be mandated. Thank you. I think on that note, we can, maybe we can,

58:03.45] I think mandated legal, we've typically kind of used in like a more narrow sense that there is

58:10.23] some sort of kind of specific external mandate for a specific kind of improvement or request,

58:20.02] like in the last set of presentations or requirement around the use of the DEP

58:26.75] requirement for use of a certain fuel additive. So I think there's certainly like a public safety

58:33.15] and health benefit, but the mandated legal part might be maybe not precisely right. That said,

58:40.93] I do want to cite for everyone, just noting the funding source is marina bonds. Again,

58:47.51] this does not count against our overall general bond limit and is paid for by the marina revenue

59:00.05] that comes in over time. I saw someone's hand. I raised mine briefly, then you answered it.

59:09.85] Thank you. Okay, well, there you go. Okay, so if there are no further questions,

59:19.42] we can move next to operations maintenance parks. Okay, the first project is Cascasco Park.

59:28.13] The request here is $500,000. Again, a combination of departments here, engineering, land use,

59:38.34] we would like to start the process of coming up with a game plan, design concept plan to upgrade

59:47.21] many amenities throughout the park. One is obviously the parking lot, the pedestrian

59:52.77] pathways, and also the park lighting throughout the park. So therefore, obviously, because the

59:59.29] Park is...

60:00.00] There are certain guidelines we must follow and approvals, deep approvals that must be generated in regards to any work, any obviously digging within the park.

60:17.12] So with that said, there's some unhidden costs that must be estimated to get a true accounting of how much this project is truly going to cost.

60:28.61] So the theory here is to start the process, the $500,000 would go for design concept plans for the parking lot, the drainage upgrades designs, the pedestrian pathways designs, and also the park lighting designs.

60:48.70] This would be a game plan, obviously, to come up with the true costs and a harder number in which we would have to probably come back in regards to coming years or any special appropriations or funding that we could seek in regards to fulfilling and going forward with this project.

61:12.12] This is obviously my priority one for this coming year because of the current conditions of the park, deterioration of the parking lots, many resident complaints.

61:28.33] This park is a true jewel to the city of Stanford, and obviously with the ongoing development down there, the development of housing, the people that visit that park, just the conditions is not up to par in my opinion.

61:44.37] So with that said, the concerns of obviously the lighting is a big concern to me as well, the safety. There's also a safety hazard in regards to incoming boaters into the harbor, which are blinded and confused of the channel markers with the upward lighting.

62:02.71] So therefore, part of the park lighting plan is to have downward LED fixtures fixated to the park, not blinding the boaters coming in. When this park was designed, it was designed with solar lights.

62:19.30] Very soon after, I would say two or three years after the project was completed, a lot of these lights did not work with the solar came out, did not work.

62:35.36] So therefore, throughout the years, the past 10, 15 years, we've been working on a plan to hardwire, and every time we have to hardwire, there's digging involved, which approval obviously is needed, which is a process.

62:53.25] Therefore, it's very extensive. So at this point, you know, we just want to come up with this very strong game plan with design concept plan that is obviously the plan is to come up with a firmer number to come back for, you know, later

63:09.68] submissions or obviously come up with another plan of special appropriations to come up with the funding to support this project.

63:21.17] Right. Um, so you mentioned you're going to be adding more downward lighting, will that be fully dark sky compliant will be 3000 Kelvin or less. Can you say that again I'm sorry Ashley.

63:34.81] All right. You mentioned you're going to be adding or replacing the lighting with downward lighting and I'm wondering if it's going to be fully dark sky compliant.

63:42.84] So it'll be under 3000 Kelvin. Yeah, I don't know the exact parameters of the downward lighting so I apologize I would have, I would lean on my engineering department to obviously spec spec that out for me of the appropriate lighting for downward lighting.

63:59.13] So I would have to investigate that to get you that correct answer, but I, I would definitely anticipate the correct, you know, standard, because right now obviously we have a lot of, you know, black areas within the park, and the lights that are working are confusing the

64:17.81] incoming voters. Right. So, I guess the question I'm asking is more about, not that there is more the love the color temperature of the light, and so the light in terms of the natural resources within the area.

64:29.70] It's more of a warm light. Yes, it's better for residential areas and it's less impactful to the migrating birds. Yeah, I would definitely include that obviously working with the engineering department to include that.

64:45.05] Once we get to that stage. Thank you. And then I know we got some public comments about some trash in the park and is part of this capital request to improve some of those areas and to clean up the debris.

65:03.36] In regards to trash in the park. And we got we received some photos that had some looks like old debris, not just regular garbage but more dumping.

65:15.15] Yeah, I can answer that I mean that that's not a capital expense Ashley so that would have to be done to heaven's operating account. Thank you.

65:28.20] Yep. And just to give this board a kind of example of the issues at hand so we had a water main break that obviously controls our bathrooms last early last summer.

65:42.30] And with the requirements that are needed. This bathroom was shut down for three months.

65:47.58] And the cost that repair water main was extremely high upwards to $75,000 just to just to repair a water main. So just to give you an idea of the length of the time that is needed.

66:00.86] Once digging has to start, and obviously, the approvals needed to to start digging.

66:09.43] And then where soils have to end up. So this is kind of the eyes and ears that are needed to.

66:17.97] Fill in regards to the commitment of the landfill on that we're required to follow.

66:29.16] Yeah, thank you. Kevin you may not have seen the, the specific photographs that Ashley was alluding to, but a citizen had sent us some presumably recently taken photos.

66:58.00] Because those that kind of citizen input would not necessarily go to you directly, but it would be useful to you to see and then presumably followed up with a, an onsite inspection of something.

67:12.27] Yes, we will. And I feel I know who that is. So I will, I will follow up with that. Great. Thank you.

67:19.45] Yeah, and I'm just looking at the message we received so it was, it was sent by a resident to planning board members and the representatives for the district, but was not, it wasn't sent to the staff so I can actually take a second to just forward that along.

67:36.73] Now so it's part of the record it generally was in support of making sure that improvements to the park happen period and I think the, the trash referenced was specifically on the, the old, an old iron bridge, just as an example of kind of the general

67:58.83] state of disrepair. Also citing the issues with the solar lights that were mentioned as well as the potholes and all the things so supportive of, of, of making sure that there's investment in this part.

68:16.53] Very good. Okay.

68:19.13] Alright, next on our parks jacket.

68:21.05] Yes, next project is coming spark. So the request here is in total $2.5 million so we're asking for 1.25 1 million $250,000 from bonds.

68:38.77] The other 1.250 will be federal grant. This request is to fund on the basketball court and playground scope of work to design and completion.

68:55.03] The city is requesting an amendment for the or lip federal grant to fund the 50% of the cost, which we already have funding from the city side of it from the balance questions on this item, Andrew.

69:20.46] The, I want to confirm just make sure that the, that the grant is in hand already, or it is still in the you've applied for it and it's supposed to be on its way. What's the status of that grant.

69:38.67] We're anticipating the grant. We don't have it in hand. Okay. And if it doesn't come in. Do you have a fallback for it.

69:50.52] We're looking for, obviously contributions as well with our administration to fund this playground as well.

70:00.64] We generated a standard park partnership and hopes to fund some contributions to go towards projects, such as, as this example.

70:12.34] Our, our administration is, you know, working with the partnership to, you know, hopefully in kind assist with these kind of efforts to fund these, these projects.

70:26.82] Okay. Thank you.

70:32.37] Just actually took to clarify the funding so the second you're saying that the what's listed under the unfunded balance represents the NPS grant. Is that correct.

70:52.02] Um, I was the or look grant or a federal grant that we approved for. Yep. Yes. Yes.

71:00.94] And that based on the kind of existing agreement on that.

71:08.07] That that has to be spent down by by 2027, or is that just the design funds piece of it. I believe it's the designs funds of it has to start.

71:20.88] But, um, right. Next. Yes.

71:30.71] Next project is all seasonal accessible part bathrooms.

71:35.51] Again we have a sizable unfunded balance that is airmarked for the continuation of the program, which is the co violin red brick building.

71:49.50] This bathroom facility needs to be constructed in regards to accessibility accessibility requirements.

72:01.17] Also obviously the utilities have to be included within the site. So there's extensive designed work that needs to is being investigated by our facilities department, also our engineering department, which is currently being done.

72:19.04] The anticipation of the balance will goes towards this, this, the coal violin site.

72:25.44] Any other about any balance after that would go towards the next bathroom in line.

72:31.70] So the request here is for $500,000 this is to keep the momentum in the administration idea of the 365 bathrooms.

72:41.97] This year, we are looking to start the program in regards to scales the park and the only park to have these bathrooms, open 365.

72:52.92] And again the momentum with the coordination with our facilities department in our, our, our staff will be to airmark the plan accordingly.

73:07.67] So we're going to kind of jot it down the next few bathrooms locations that we would like to go after, after co violin, which include K park, Portland Avenue bathroom, and then on to, you know, other areas such as bear park coming civilian West Beach

73:30.38] Pavilion.

73:31.38] And again, other city facilities district wide.

73:40.92] Right now in the, in the out your capital forecast, you'd have it in for 2829 and 2930, but no further. It sounds like this is part of a multi year ongoing effort.

73:55.94] Yes, I could. It would be an obviously a continuation. I would just like to get firmer numbers as we, as we proceed. I feel more comfortable getting better numbers.

74:10.01] Later on. That's okay. Better numbers next year.

74:16.12] Yeah, I mean I, I, I can't speak for the other boards but I think just, even if the numbers aren't completely precise just kind of having that indication of an intention for an ongoing capital.

74:31.24] Like a kind of multi part multiple capital project can be helpful per perspective and prioritization.

74:39.59] Understand. Yeah, I see your hand. Yes, thank you.

74:43.84] Kevin the, while, you know, I certainly endorse the, the concept and and the objectives that you're trying to achieve through this. I'm just curious, has any analysis been done of the ones on a per bathroom basis let's call it.

75:04.35] What the annual operating maintenance of this facility might might be above and beyond what we're currently doing.

75:13.73] Well there's, there's definitely been an operating increase chat to be honest with you because obviously you have the, you know, obviously the staffing in regards to the upkeep, the, you know, the paper goods, you know, for the bathroom.

75:35.61] Our facilities is also looking at self locking devices to assist with closing park park curfew hours. So, the game plan would be obviously for us to maintain these bathrooms have have curfew hours on these bathrooms so per se like

75:57.56] the park curfew hours at Scalsy Park would be the, the bathrooms are open at 7am, and they would close at 8pm per se, and they will self lock on at 8pm.

76:11.09] They would obviously lock from the outside not from the inside.

76:15.74] And obviously our park police park Rangers would obviously check those, those, those sites, but there hasn't been obviously a calculation of how much, you know, there could be,

76:28.58] you know, I can give an estimation of our increase of operating, but, but I definitely would have to look at that for this coming year, as these bathrooms come online.

76:41.36] Perhaps in conjunction with the completion of the first one, we want to establish, you know, across a, it's probably seasonally affected, you know, across that first year, try to collect that data, assuming it might be able to be extrapolated, you know, to the others.

77:03.39] The only good news is we'll be saving money on Porter Johns. If we could get this around district wide because we spent a significant amount of money on extra cleanings, as you can imagine, and just units throughout our park system for, for park sites with

77:22.94] bathrooms during the shoulder seasons and up to the new year, because these parks really never close, you know, when the weather's nice people are out and about and we provide these bathrooms, Porter Johns at this point but once the season 365 bathrooms are open,

77:41.19] we could take away those Porter Johns, you know, once we are able to get most of these bathrooms open.

77:47.21] Yeah, good, good. That'll be an interesting data to have. Thank you. Yes, yep, you're welcome. All right.

77:58.77] Yes, next item is park many's upgrade the request here $75,000. I did follow your lead in regards to the capital forecast on continuation of what I've been continuing to ask every year and been granted.

78:15.72] Thank you. So this, this budget is primarily for amenity items such as benches sport bleachers signage picnic tables, etc. In our city wide parks.

78:35.73] Next request is park fencing, similar to the park is many accounts parks many requests. This is $100,000 this is a for any unforeseen damage to fencing within our within our in our city parks.

78:53.32] Again, this is very common and very used count annually throughout our park system. Okay.

79:05.27] Next account is playground rehabilitation on the request here $75,000. Again, these city parts playgrounds parts for our playgrounds are very expensive.

79:18.52] We do an annual inspection on our by an outside contractor every year, which indicates any upgrades we might need these parts are significantly high so therefore this account supports those reports.

79:36.29] Next, next submission is paving and drainage.

79:43.40] The request here is for $100,000.

79:46.72] This is for any upgrades and apart properties for access and parking lot upgrades doors, or our city park system. The balance here is a tent for a new catch basin at Co violin between Terry Connors and Troy field that will be done the next couple weeks.

80:06.84] We have airmarking our parks department parking lot and our in our office space to be upgraded as well.

80:18.96] But this count is also used annually.

80:25.22] So for the next item to just want to know where the members that these is kind of revolving accounts that the, the expectation is that the current balances across the board will be close to if not completely zeroed out by the end of the fiscal year.

80:41.65] That is correct. Thank you. Next request is Northrop Park.

80:47.70] The $75,000 request, the unfunded amount is 125. So therefore, we would need around $200,000 for the design and concept plan for the relocation of the basketball court and the playground for Northrop Park.

81:05.40] And this is adjacent to Stark school.

81:08.98] So we are also applying for a $2 million state grant, which we will get word on at some point to, to fund to help fund this playground. Next request is Rosa Hartman.

81:33.16] I should change the title say phase two but Rosa Hartman park on the request here is $150,000.

81:40.44] This is the installation of walking paths that connect to the grand side of the park with landscaping and amenities, many upgrades, Greenwich, Greenwich, Town of Greenwich has done a nice upgrade to their side of the park on a few years back we'd like to connect to them.

81:59.11] I request this in the past but it did not go through.

82:02.14] So I'm trying again.

82:10.30] My final request here, I believe, is baseball and softball field upgrades.

82:20.52] It's a, believe it's an out year request is if I'm not mistaken. It's a fiscal year 2829 requests. It's for $250,000.

82:30.69] The balance is going towards Rotterfield at Springdale school that is in motion in regards to our engineering department will be going out to bid and the work probably done after the summer season next year.

82:49.88] The request here is for 250 to move forward with the same game plan in regards to terfing and infield, most likely would be a softball field the girl softball field next time.

83:06.65] Okay.

83:10.41] That is, that's our whole parks.

83:13.54] Yeah.

83:15.01] Okay, I think it's any questions if you guys have any.

83:18.52] Hey, Jen.

83:19.52] Yeah.

83:20.52] For the benefit of the new members, since there's obviously zero dollars being requested as a part of this, this capital budget. Could you explain to the new members, you know, the, what this is aimed at achieving this information.

83:34.93] Sure, yes, thanks for prompting that procedural piece. So, um, so we are charged annually is to put together the capital budget for this year and also we are to be to put out a five year capital forecast for the for the years ahead.

83:56.01] So whenever, possibly do encourage that apartments to be able to also list out expected major projects to be part of that out your forecast even if there isn't a request for this year.

84:12.42] In this case, it also serves to just share the information about how the, the balance, which currently exists within this revolving account, how it's how it's currently being spent.

84:29.18] Thank you. All right. Well thank you very much. Thank you off on the good evening. Next on our list is operation solid waste. You can introduce yourself for the record please.

84:52.65] You're on mute Josie. Still can't hear you. Oh, um, I see yes you got to your, we've got two people on one is your video one is your audio, but we seem not to be hearing any audio.

85:22.17] Okay, sometimes calling in helps or is an easy way to resolve the issue.

85:37.88] Maybe then if that's going to take a minute, if we have to be able to land use and then come back to solid waste. That's up to the board. I'm not going to answer that.

85:58.75] Can you hear me now. Yes.

86:03.76] All right, apologies. My name is Josie carpentano I'm heading up solid waste at this time. So what we have here for presentation error the safety upgrades that are necessary at the transfer station.

86:20.25] Some of the items here in description are generally I think I still have last year's which was the missing system which we should be able to complete within the next month we had some missing systems that we need to upgrade and some

86:36.11] barriers but that's what the current funding. What we're hoping to do with the upcoming funding is to replace the hallway scale, the hallway scale is used to hallway or our solid municipal solid waste replacement for that has been proposed

86:56.35] for over $110,000. And also we would like to make some safety repairs to the inbound scale which is a smaller scale that residents and small commercial construction companies come across when they come into the scale house there's some concrete

87:16.84] information on the barrier that needs to be fixed. We'd like to install some safety lighting. So drivers that come in know when they can move forward up the ramp, and when they should not move forward up the ramp to ensure that we're keeping the transfer

87:34.80] station safe. We are also interested in installing cameras, especially on our hallway scales to ensure that the hallway contractors are abiding by all the deep regulations for the transfer station.

87:54.17] We're hoping to also implement some speakers, so that way residents don't have to come into the scale house. They can speak to us right from their vehicle, and it can move the process along quicker.

88:07.13] We have a perimeter fence that abides the adjacent property which is a gym, and it's starting to fail so we're hoping to make some repairs to that fence as well.

88:19.50] That totals here at $560,000 for this request on this year, pending your questions. Now, any questions on these. Okay, to the next set. The next request is for 200 pedestrian receptacles.

88:46.05] If you've been in veterans park you've seen our big belly receptacles. There are weighted receptacles that allow you to one user, your foot to open the receptacles on their limited space, and they're not open the way our current receptacles

89:03.23] are in public spaces that includes our parks and Bedford Street Atlantic Street. So the current setup is either a toter or an open metal framed public receptacle for garbage, and we run into a lot of issues with that on daily collection, because what

89:21.23] we're seeing is that commercial businesses are using these to dump their garbage.

89:29.39] We have an immense amount of tonnage coming from these public receptacles and we have a lot of reason to believe that the majority of it is not from daily pedestrian garbage but rather overnight garbage.

89:41.39] So one of the things we want to propose here is to use these potbelly receptacles, not only for their software enhancements that allow us to be smart about how we're collecting and allow us to make more efficient collection routes rather

89:59.39] than having these on overtime in the summer. So we're trying to reduce the overtime by having these types of receptacles. The other piece for me is that this is a cleaner format to ensure that we're keeping garbage tidy, and that we're reducing

90:15.35] the ability of rodents to be able to get into garbage in our parks. I think this would really help us out. So this is a proposal for 200 that's what we estimate we would need based off the current receptacles that we have on our street.

90:28.35] And in our parks. This would also include a software service to be able to be more predictable and to kind of create an optimization to the way we're collecting, especially with the rate of garbage changing by the seasons.

90:47.94] So, you know, we have to run more routes in the summer in our parks because it is on any given weekend if there's good weather, there's going to be three times more garbage. Yes.

91:03.58] Thank you.

91:06.91] Josie is there, while the benefits of these potbelly units are big belly not potbelly excuse me, units are speak for themselves. Will they have any impact on the unauthorized use of our, of the, that you're currently experiencing.

91:30.85] Yeah, I believe they will because the openings are very small so the openings really only allow for less than 12 inches. So you would have to take that garbage and put each individual piece in there, you wouldn't be able to put a big bag into this.

91:44.85] Okay, okay good. Good. Thank you that that answers my question. Thanks so much.

91:50.11] Great. And, though, it would be great to be able to implement this all at once I understand this is also something where we could do a partial implementation if we needed to.

92:02.95] Yes. And so, the, the software is just kind of embedded in each unit there isn't like sort of an upfront across the system software cost. Okay, right and it's per unit, and it's a flexible program.

92:19.96] Great. I think that as this gets implemented it would be great to be able to I think per Chuck's question be able to have some future sense of like the extent to which there is that reduction in the dumping I think just to illustrate your assumption about

92:42.32] the reduction those costs for the city. Yes, I actually pulled some information from the city of Philadelphia and when they moved to big bellies they reduce their public receptacle tonnage by 70%, which is a really large number.

92:58.99] I well I can't predict that today I do have current numbers of tonnages over the years so we stand to be able to have some pretty good metrics out of this type of implementation.

93:09.99] Okay, great. Um, and I think it might end up just being like a supplemental thing I think being able to note that example from from Philly about the impact.

93:25.38] Right.

93:27.48] I can provide that for the other boards.

93:37.01] So for this, this request is for us to be postured and prepared for a lot of the sustainable initiatives that we're working on currently across the city, when it comes to waste reduction.

93:52.33] I know that hallway is one of our largest increasing costs, and the costs with fuel is really an unknown for this fiscal year so it's very concerning so one of the things that we wanted to look at was to prepare ourselves for smarter ways

94:13.39] to ensure that we are taking things out of the waste stream and out of the landfills, and one of the things we would like to do is purchase some roll off containers.

94:23.36] Or transfer station, you won't just be dumping all your, your debris from whatever it is your junk or your landscaping from your yard in one location, the idea would be that we would have different locate different separated bins and we would start to implement

94:42.89] a way where we're incentivizing residents to dispose of things by product so say glass or clean wood versus construction debris. And this will help us be able to partner with we're putting out an RFP to get some proposals, based off the different types

95:07.07] of waste streams to be able to ensure that we are receiving the best pricing for whatever it is that we're going to haul away different vendors will pay us different prices for whatever it is that we're we're providing as long as it's clean, and it's

95:28.31] designed and they can come and pick it up easily so these containers would allow us to separate the things on the ground, rather than have everything going to the municipal solid waste landfill.

95:45.75] So this is expected to pay itself off over time as an investment for the city, right and I think between between RFP for multi recycling hallway options and then we also have an RFP going out for a waste characterization study to really understand

96:05.38] how we can bring into our transfer station, and how we can better streamline our routes and streamline our curb services. I think that having these containers ready and available will help us once we're ready to make that move.

96:21.69] One of the other items on here that I didn't mention was a magnet to separate metals.

96:26.69] That would be a quick win for us get get all those metals out of the municipal stream and be able to sell that back. Any questions. Okay.

96:44.55] And then if I recall correctly I think you had one of the items that was on the land you stuck it as well. Yes, yes, and I can share a slide for that. So, this request is for the implementation of

97:04.40] the whole revitalization of our GIS systems for the city as we know GIS isn't just fancy mapping.

97:13.39] GIS is really what connects our city across all of our departments. And currently we have an outdated GIS platform we need to migrate to the enterprise platform.

97:24.39] So, what we did this year was conduct a detailed roadmap with all the city agencies, and as regi is to really understand the needs of the city today, but the needs of the city in the future for strategic planning purposes.

97:42.61] And what we did with the company was establish how we get from our current solutions to be able to be on an online as re platform that allows us to really have the efficiencies and the, the collaborative environments necessary to create a lot

98:02.76] of the tools that as re offers that we can't do today because we're on an outdated platform.

98:10.99] We went through a three month assessment with all the departments and this is our breakdown of all of our departments, what our high level needs are, and what the solutions that as re provides.

98:26.14] So this is a big ask, but it is something that the city has not been able to do before so we really believe that we're in the position to be able to do this today.

98:35.14] And we really know that, you know, we're on borrowed time with our current platform which is set to sunset by the end of the year. So this would enable us to start to do that put us on a fully online platform and allow us to start leveraging the

98:52.59] tools that GIS offers to be able to make sound decisions collaborative environments for public safety and operating departments, and really be able to have the city in a place where all of our information is speaking to the as re platform

99:11.90] and we're not in a bunch of disparaging systems.

99:15.90] So you guys are the planning board and you understand as read better than most, and it is a big ask but this is the overall high level. Look at how this implementation will work and the costs associated with it.

99:34.64] And the current balance on this account is expected to be zeroed out by the end of the fiscal year sooner it should be able to move on to the system would require these funds, I, my recollection from our pre meetings was that.

99:53.00] Historically, GIS investments have lived under land use with this lecture be moved to another departmental designation given that it's at the anticipation as for it to be used across departments, right, we anticipate that the best place for the GIS team

[100:10.84] for the platform is under ops administration, to be able to ensure that it receives the attention that it needs but it also is able to reach across into the public safety environment as well.

[100:24.84] And the current funding in this budget is covering the lidar scans that are supportive of this future project that more than just gives us an aerial but really gives us the ability to have the four dimensional data for the city, not only its topography

[100:41.84] but also for the existing buildings, actually, are there going to be any network upgrades associated with this because the GIS takes a lot of effort to run on computer systems and really bog things down.

[101:00.62] Right, currently, we're actually, it ends up being more costly in the long run it's just broken out across departments, the way we're set up today because we are running this off of servers and really trying to push tools that

[101:17.44] in the old model are solely for developers on the GIS team and what the future state would allow us to do is to give everyone that isn't really building out the tables, an online tool that gives them the same accessibility,

[101:36.08] the same use but it isn't like, it isn't a bear to download and it doesn't take forever to zoom in and out and use the functionalities, so it'll be all hosted online.

[101:51.45] Thank you.

[101:56.61] So this, this is a significant investment so does this need to be done kind of in one tranche at this amount, can it be part is a partial allocation useful or is, or does it really just kind of need to be done in this full phase.

[102:15.14] I mean we're hoping to be able to do this all in one phase, but we are prepared and we've prepared a few different courses of action should we not be able to do that successfully with the vendor.

[102:27.23] That would take us a longer amount of time to get the city to where it really needs to be if we couldn't do it all at once.

[102:35.27] It sounds like there, that would put us into having a system that would no longer be supported by the software vendor. Right. We are at the end of our at the end of this fiscal year at the end of the fiscal year we will no longer be supported.

[102:54.41] So that's all kinds of libraries and if we have an unsupported software system. Yes. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Now on to ladies. Good evening, everyone.

[103:17.93] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

[103:39.20] Courtland Park, but there's more work to be done. And this request is to develop a master plan for Courtland Park. You might have heard about ideas to put a library branch there.

[104:01.53] So this would support those efforts to come up with a comprehensive plan for Courtland Park. Once again, this is not for this year. This is an anticipated budget item for next year's capital budget.

[104:19.69] The next one is for invasive species for the citywide invasive species plan. The plan actually was completed last year and looked at 32 city parks, one acre and larger, and it found multiple problems with invasive species.

[104:42.15] And it also sort of prioritized where work should begin. So work already has begun with regard to invasive species management.

[104:58.61] For example, in Cove, Mayor Agnes River Park, Scalsy Park, Kay Park.

[105:04.96] And this funding is really requested to continue the work that's already been done. Part of it would go to professionals, to companies, to vendors.

[105:21.36] Other funds would go and support neighborhood groups who are involved in the management of invasive species. So, for example, for Agnes River Park, the city has supported local groups with buying new plant material to be planted and replace invasive species.

[105:51.65] In other situations, you need a more radical approach. You may need to apply herbicides, things like that, which obviously needs to be done by professionals.

[106:06.71] So this would continue an ongoing project, and this is for $200,000.

[106:26.58] Could you speak to the land that's been reclaimed so far through this program, just to underline the tangible impact of this?

[106:29.53] I think some work has been done at Cummings Park. There were also issues with neighboring properties and the invasive species from city parks going into neighboring properties.

[106:50.65] A lot of it in Kay Park is, if you recall, just like a meadow area that was overtaken by invasive plants. So that's in the process of being restored.

[107:10.72] So those are the kinds of things that are done with those types of funds.

[107:20.99] Next item is the Housing Growth Plan. This is actually a legal mandate under Public Act 25-01,

[107:38.59] and it requires every municipality by June of 2029 to submit a housing growth plan that identifies areas where new housing can be created within a municipality.

[107:58.01] This is continuing the work that we've done with our first housing plan that we did, I believe, in 2023.

[108:09.62] You might recall that the comprehensive plan updated that plan a little bit. But as I said, this is slightly different in that it requires the cities to identify areas in town where we can grow and how we want to grow.

[108:34.50] Obviously, housing, housing affordability, housing diversity was a big topic in the comprehensive plan.

[108:45.07] So in addition to meeting the state mandate, it would, of course, also be a big step into implementing the comprehensive plan.

[108:59.29] And the timing of this is important because our next state-mandated plan is due in, sorry, so this, by putting it into the 27-28 plan, this would be complete by 2029.

[109:22.20] Yes.

[109:25.45] And the last full housing plan was done in 2022.

[109:33.02] Yeah, we did some updates to the housing plan in the comprehensive plan.

[109:44.45] But as I said, this is slightly different than the housing plan we did in the past.

[109:55.43] The next item?

[109:56.43] The next item is the East Main Street Land Use and Zoning Study for $200,000. The city or Land Use Bureau has conducted a neighborhood study for the Cove neighborhood.

[110:13.22] There have been a lot of complaints from the neighborhood about traffic congestion, traffic safety, fear of overcrowding.

[110:22.37] So we did a very detailed look at the Cove neighborhood together with the Transportation Department.

[110:33.81] This one is to basically continue this project and look at East Main Street.

[110:41.48] We've seen some development activity ongoing on East Main Street. The old WWE building is being converted to residential units.

[110:57.05] The Lafayette apartment building was recently completed.

[111:00.05] At the moment, there is a zoning map change request before the zoning board for the McDonald's site.

[111:12.53] So there's a lot of stuff going on.

[111:14.53] And rather than dealing with those changes piecemeal, the idea is to come up with a comprehensive zoning concept for the whole corridor.

[111:28.29] This would also support a project that the Transportation Department is currently undertaking, which looks at traffic safety at East Main Street and traffic movement on East Main Street.

[111:44.79] So the idea would really be to support what's going on or what the Transportation Department is already doing.

[111:58.61] Are you anticipating doing detailed traffic modeling as part of this city?

[112:04.28] This would be a question for the Transportation Department. We are not doing this. This would only be a land use study.

[112:13.07] So it would look at land uses and zoning scenarios, what we want East Main Street to look like moving forward.

[112:35.17] My initial thought then is I think the cost here is a little high if you're not doing any transportation modeling, especially since we're coming out of having done the planet conservation and development.

[112:39.61] And it can be built off of that. I think you can get more competitive pricing than this.

[112:43.58] I mean, it's a pretty long corridor, but we hear you.

[112:52.08] And Luke actually is here and he could provide information.

[112:59.35] Yeah, no, I can. We are. Hold on. There's my camera.

[113:04.24] As part of our state funded design and construction project, it does include a full traffic study along the corridor and obviously grown out many years out. So that's included.

[113:17.20] So that's part of this cost that's up here or is that separate?

[113:20.20] No, separate. OK, transportation project. Yep.

[113:23.16] So once again, this is only land use zoning analysis, land use analysis.

[113:31.44] Obviously, I mean, what we're seeing with the code study, there was a lot of public engagement.

[113:42.27] And so that would be part of that as well.

[113:46.27] And it's also I mean, what what the code study really also showed us is that, yeah, everything ends up in on East Main Street somehow.

[113:58.83] And so this seems to be the natural progression of looking into things on on the east side of town.

[114:09.23] I support the study. I'm just I think we could do better on the budget.

[114:13.89] But it sounds like this is inclusive of the consultant costs and the public engagement costs that be associated with this.

[114:24.35] Yes. All right. Next item probably all of us remember the recent flooding that occurred in the city.

[114:46.38] And obviously, that is just a symptom of things to come.

[114:57.37] So we wanted to start putting money aside for open space acquisition and flood control.

[115:09.97] The city is currently undertaking three store or three studies that have to do with flood resiliency.

[115:20.06] We're doing a coastal resiliency study that is almost finished.

[115:24.25] It will actually come to you for your review and approval within the next couple of weeks.

[115:33.14] We're also doing a tourism Brooke flooding study and looking at flooding in Springdale.

[115:44.49] Those are just some of the areas or the worst areas is experienced flooding in the city.

[115:51.61] Obviously, there will be and there are different tools proposed to address the flooding.

[116:00.93] But one very effective tool is acquisition of frequent loss properties and basically turning them into Parkland and creating additional storage area for for floodwater.

[116:21.88] Obviously, that is a very expensive undertaking. And so the request for one million dollars won't get us very far.

[116:32.36] But the idea is to start coming up with a strategy to acquire those properties.

[116:40.67] And as I said, the studies that we're currently undertaking, they help us identify those properties that would be very important to acquire for the city.

[116:58.43] Once again, this will not be the only measure to take to address flooding, but it's one very important piece. And we should also keep in mind that.

[117:15.03] Yes, property acquisition is expensive, but building new culverts and in ground storage systems and things like that is equally if not more expensive in the long run.

[117:32.63] And I think a lot of folks in the city had sort of a wake up call when when we had those floods recently.

[117:50.90] I'm just curious if you've identified the selection criteria for choosing which pieces of land you'd like to conserve or would those be publicly available that you decided on this already?

[118:07.82] We don't get a list of properties that the city wants to acquire. But as I mentioned, the studies that we're proposing, they are, or currently conducting, they will help us identify sort of the properties that would be most valuable to acquire for the city.

[118:40.66] I just want to build off of, Ralph, what you're saying about it kind of offsetting the cost of other kind of flood control measures like culverts and other kinds of hard infrastructure.

[118:52.55] I think if I could be cited more explicitly in here to go along with what you've already checked off around the cost savings.

[119:05.16] I can certainly revise the description.

[119:10.16] Yeah, Ralph, just quickly. These acquisition targets, these real estate targets, are these to be acquired through eminent domain or arm's length transactions?

[119:22.78] How do you envision these transactions take place?

[119:25.78] I don't expect them to be happening through eminent domain, but I mean, the city has been approached by property owners.

[119:40.15] So I think, I mean, eminent domain is sort of the means of last resort. I think no one wants to use that.

[119:50.91] I think it's more of like a collaborative process to...

[120:00.00] Also to help people to get out of difficult situations. And obviously there is also frustration on parts of people who are affected by this that we hope that, as I said, it's going to be a very collaborative process and not based on eminent domain.

[120:26.14] All right, there are no other questions on this one. Next to Historic Preservation Trust Fund.

[120:39.45] Yes, the Historic Preservation Trust Fund, that's a request for $50,000. As you all know, the

[120:52.88] comprehensive plan puts a very strong focus on historic preservation. And actually, we have been

[121:01.46] working, the Land Use Bureau has been working with the Board of Representatives to create a Historic

[121:08.17] Preservation Trust Fund. Problem is, there's no money in this trust fund. So it has not been

[121:15.67] operating. So the idea here is that the $50,000 would allow the trust fund to start operating.

[121:28.34] The monies would be used for historic signage. It would be used to get properties voluntarily

[121:38.91] on the city's cultural resources inventory. The cultural resources inventory is also something

[121:44.78] that the Land Use Bureau created a couple of years ago that is basically provides protection

[121:51.65] for historic structures. If you are on that property, in order to get on the property, you need

[122:00.07] a report from a qualified historic expert, because obviously we want to make sure that it's not just

[122:07.20] an old property that's on the list, but a property that has some value architecturally

[122:16.50] whatsoever. So that has been a barrier for people who actually reached out to us

[122:22.84] and asked how can we protect my property better once I have to sell it or want to sell it,

[122:31.86] that it stays the historic property it is. We do have a mechanism for bringing money into the fund

[122:46.63] when the city has a historic zoning bonus program, when an owner applies for that historic bonus,

[122:58.28] they have to pay a fee, and that fee goes into the historic preservation trust fund.

[123:04.60] That fee is probably too low, so we have to go back to the Board of Representatives to work

[123:09.56] with them. But the idea is really that this funding is sort of the jumpstart of the historic

[123:17.33] preservation trust fund, and once the trust fund is going and operational, that there will be a

[123:25.41] more established funding stream that is not dependent on city bond funding moving forward.

[123:43.07] Next item is the Sleepy Hollow Park Master Plan. So Sleepy Hollow Park is in the Springdale

[123:57.41] section of the city. It is actually mostly wetlands, but nonetheless a very important

[124:09.62] neighborhood amenity. And there's also a very active friends group, neighborhood group,

[124:21.07] that has approached the city, is working with the city on making upgrades to the park. So

[124:29.48] this would support those efforts and hopefully also direct and support that neighborhood group

[124:41.11] to make improvements to the park. So this is not going to be a park with ball fields

[124:47.09] or things like that. This is really more a conservation area, and the focus will really

[124:52.67] be on walking trails and maybe some interpretive signage, explaining to people what's going on

[125:03.93] there and the importance and value of wetlands and their role in flood protection.

[125:12.39] So yeah, that's what this proposal is about. Last one?

[125:26.57] Yes. Last but least, we have the overall needs assessment for city fields. This is in addition

[125:34.91] to the funds that were already approved in last fiscal year. So the city has an immense amount

[125:48.09] of softball fields, soccer fields, basketball courts, et cetera. So a huge system of parks.

[126:00.36] And the problem, as has been identified by the park strategic plan, is that the city doesn't

[126:10.71] really have a good understanding of the conditions of a lot of those facilities that we have,

[126:18.79] and also how to best manage them and how to manage them cost effectively. So this would

[126:27.49] really be for taking a holistic approach at all the parks facilities, but also the facilities

[126:37.36] that the Board of Ed operates. So all the ball fields, athletic fields that the Board of Ed

[126:48.29] maintains, trying to come up hopefully with a strategy to manage them jointly or at least

[126:56.55] create some synergies here to maintain them more cost effectively. And I think when you

[127:05.53] listen to Kevin Murray's presentation, obviously we're working very closely with the Parks and

[127:10.89] Recreation Department here, it's really trying to get away from sort of the one offs and having

[127:20.11] a long-term strategy for capital investments in those facilities. The other thing what the study

[127:30.40] would do is also assessing the need for those facilities. The demographics change, different

[127:48.37] sports become more popular, others become less popular. I mean, who knew what pickle ball is a

[127:55.22] couple of years ago and now everyone is playing pickle ball and wants pickle ball fields.

[128:00.37] So this would also look into sort of the needs assessment and what people, what residents are

[128:07.25] looking for. It's also trying to think about we have an aging population, how do we have to

[128:14.05] adjust our park system to address a changing population. So this is really a quite ambitious

[128:24.90] plan and this assessment of the cost we have done together with the Engineering Department.

[128:39.04] And once again, it's not just looking at the fields themselves, it's looking at the parks,

[128:45.55] the lighting in the parks, the drainage in the parks, the bathrooms and all those things and

[128:54.00] what can be done to manage them as efficiently as possible and also to have a timeline for

[129:01.29] regular upgrades for those facilities. I do want to note on this one. So

[129:11.76] last year the full request of 500,000 had come before us, moved through the various boards and

[129:18.75] then was cut in half when it got to the Board of Finance. And so the 250 that's sitting there

[129:24.19] right now, you can't actually spend it till you get the other half of this. You can actually do

[129:28.99] the full study. Is that correct? Yes. And just especially for members who are newer, I'm just

[129:38.51] kind of looking at the top of the sheet here, the distinctions between the balance amount available

[129:43.90] and unfunded. When it sits in unfunded as this one does, that means it's been authorized for

[129:49.81] bonds but hasn't actually been put into the bond, hasn't been put out for bond. And that's typically

[129:55.33] done when we know that we can't actually spend it yet because we don't have the full amount. And so

[130:01.82] I think whenever possible we like to be able to fully fund projects so they don't sit in that

[130:07.58] limbo. All right. And I believe that's it. Thank you very much and good luck with your deliberations.

[130:17.53] Thank you. All right, next we have Operations Engineering. Lou, if you want to introduce

[130:25.10] yourself for the record. Good evening, Lou Casalo, City Engineer. I have my own presentation

[130:32.34] that I'd like to share with you. If that's okay? Sure. Yes, please. Can you see that? Yes. Okay.

[130:50.29] Good evening. I'm going to review the engineering capital budget request. I'll do this as quickly

[130:55.01] as I can. There's a lot of information here, but it boils down to nine projects within the

[131:01.37] 27-28 funding request, the total $7.9 million of which 3.4 are grants. It's about 43 percent of

[131:09.66] the request. As the Director of Land Use just mentioned, I've been spending a significant

[131:18.82] amount of my time overseeing the management of the three drainage studies that have been done,

[131:26.18] or flooding studies. And as Ralph mentioned, that includes a citywide drainage assessment,

[131:33.86] which includes Springdale Brook, a separate study for Toilsum Brook, and a coastal resiliency plan.

[131:42.59] These are basically screening assessments to define where all the problem locations are. One

[131:47.79] of the things that came out of an idea that I had as part of the study was to map a lot of

[131:53.66] the flooding areas in GIS. That way, the administration, the city staff, everybody has

[132:00.48] sort of a clear view on where the problem areas are located, and capital projects can be planned

[132:05.74] around those areas based on the significance of them. The out-year requests for the three flooding

[132:12.72] projects are subject to change as the projects have not been designed and the grants have not

[132:17.64] all been obtained. One other thing that's important is the grants noted herein are anticipated or

[132:25.51] there are grants where I've submitted them, but they have not been fully confirmed at this point.

[132:32.51] So with that, I'm going to get right into it. Okay, I'm going to move my people's screen.

[132:48.51] So here's just a snapshot of the requests at hand. The first, well, 10 are current year

[132:57.83] requests, and then there's some out-year requests broken down by bond and federal grants. And as

[133:02.95] you can see, I've either anticipated the grants or submitted the grants, but not yet been approved.

[133:09.29] The first one is the Municipal Bridge Replacement and Rehabilitation Program. The request is for

[133:15.48] about $1.1 million. This is broken out in terms of city share and state local bridge program share.

[133:23.88] One of the things that we did differently this year, because the state has a limited amount of

[133:29.24] state aid for the statewide bridge program, I normally go in with four or five applications

[133:34.60] and I'll end up with only one. It's difficult to determine which ones are going to be funded.

[133:39.47] So I'm asking for the overall amounts for design, and then I'll come back to you

[133:48.47] when the specific application gets approved for the funding for the construction balance.

[133:54.66] And I've highlighted that at the bottom of the comments section. Just to give you an idea of

[133:58.73] what we're dealing with here, the bridges that I've selected are Cascade Road, which is 100

[134:02.97] years old, Farms Road, 76 years old, Bridge Street, which is I believe around 76 years old.

[134:12.40] This is Cascade Road, just to give you an idea of what the conditions look like in North

[134:16.92] Stanford. It's a small span, but there's pretty significant deterioration here that is eligible

[134:23.52] for state aid. So I'm pursuing a grant application for the replacement of Cascade Farms Road,

[134:31.08] very similar. Although it's 24 years younger, still not a spring chicken. There's a lot of

[134:37.56] deterioration here in the wing walls and other parts of the structure. There's many bridges on

[134:43.08] Farms Road. This is one of three. Just gives you a little more viewpoints of what the structure

[134:50.53] looks like currently. So it's definitely in need of rehabilitation. And that's why I've selected

[134:57.49] this one. Bridge Street. Bridge Street came to me this year. The state did a, the state bridge

[135:04.46] safety unit did an inspection and they were concerned about a couple of the beam, the girder

[135:09.90] ends. Here's a picture in the middle showing some of the deterioration on the girder ends. It's lost

[135:14.22] some of its load carrying capacity. I've been under there many times recently. And as you can see,

[135:21.75] there's several components of the structure that are deteriorated, including the deck,

[135:26.69] the bearings, the pedestals that support the bearings, the abutment walls have cracks.

[135:31.86] So this is a pretty significant structure. So I'm going to propose that this be put in for a

[135:37.50] rehabilitation grant. When the grant applications are due, which is the beginning of spring of 2027.

[135:48.71] Next project. Sorry if I could just intercept for a second just to clarify kind of procedurally how

[135:54.39] this works. So in prior years, we've gotten, we would have gotten like one submission for each

[136:02.25] of the bridge projects, not knowing of the three, which one might be the most likely to actually

[136:07.90] receive the grant funds from the state. And so procedurally, this account, the municipal bridge

[136:15.95] replacement and rehabilitation program has been set up to kind of receive the design funds,

[136:24.02] regardless of kind of which of the three projects gets approved. Right. And then once that happens,

[136:30.24] that's when our finance staff will go in and create a separate specific account

[136:36.88] for the approved project, which happens through this board. So I just wanted to clarify kind of

[136:44.00] why this is a little bit different procedurally from prior years of the capital budget.

[136:50.85] Yeah, I think this will make it a little more simple for your board to evaluate because

[136:56.65] it's not all tied to separate projects. It's just one until the state applications come in.

[137:01.93] And then once those applications are selected and approved, then I'll come back to you with

[137:06.09] individual projects, depending on what comes out of that. I think we have another question.

[137:11.93] And I, I had a little question. Sorry, I wasn't sure you'd call me.

[137:21.47] Thanks. Yes. Either my son is breaking up yours. So apologies. The question was if you do not get

[137:29.38] the grants, do you have a fallback plan? Yeah, you know, I make may make good arguments to the

[137:36.77] state of Connecticut and advocate for as much money as I can possibly get. I'll continue to

[137:40.77] look for other grant opportunities, but they're limited. And the only other position I really

[137:47.22] can take is to either take traffic off the structure or reduce lane width or do interim

[137:53.73] repair projects. But, you know, those are the most efficient ways to move forward. But, you know,

[138:00.23] right now with like Bridge Street, one of the lanes is closed. So I've nicked it. It's a four

[138:05.97] lane bridge and now it's down to three lanes. Seems to be operating pretty well. The highway

[138:10.77] department was able to put out some barricades and signage. So we're, we're, we're necking

[138:17.18] traffic down and we're managing. But those are the kind of techniques we would use if,

[138:22.35] if for some reason the funding didn't come along when we anticipated it.

[138:26.43] With any of the two bridges that need to be replaced, if they weren't replaced this year,

[138:31.61] would they survive till next year? Is it how urgent is the replacement?

[138:36.19] It's urgent. They're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're safe to a degree,

[138:40.34] but they're in poor condition. So they're deteriorating every year. And as you,

[138:44.97] as you can tell from the periods that I've told you about, they're pretty old.

[138:50.43] So they're well past their useful life. Okay. Thanks.

[138:57.42] The next capital project is the citywide seawall replacement project.

[139:02.72] This is a project at Cove Island. One of the revetments that's, that's a seawall on an angle

[139:08.72] with, with rubble has failed. And this is a project where we received some funding last year.

[139:16.07] And then we're asking for the balance of it this year. The project is currently in design and

[139:23.99] we're anticipated bidding this out next summer, just to give you an idea of what it looks like.

[139:30.05] This is supposed to be armored. The shoreline, this is basically parallel to the parking lot.

[139:34.97] Same picture here. The, you know, everything is eroded or deteriorated.

[139:40.05] It's exposing, you know, utility conduits and there are steel plates over the

[139:46.00] access ways to the, to the new marina that I, that the department just put online.

[139:51.89] So we've come up with a strategy to basically, we can't really change the angle of repose of

[139:58.60] the material because it'll be like removing parking spaces, but we're going to tow it in

[140:03.48] with larger material at the base so that it reduces the amount of slough on this shallow

[140:10.04] angle. And so, but, but it's over, you know, a fairly long length of about a thousand feet.

[140:16.67] That's why it's pretty costly, but it's a pretty simple construction to do.

[140:20.75] It's just a matter of, you know, getting the funding to put this in motion.

[140:24.32] If you're not familiar with covalent marina, the, the entire marina has been recently dredged.

[140:31.21] It was dredged in two phases. The docks and the piers were all recently replaced. All the

[140:37.28] utilities to the, to the marina are brand new. And really the only thing left to covalent is

[140:42.57] this revetment wall repair. So that's priority number two. Priority number three is, as you can

[140:51.34] see here, the top right corner, is the completion of John McCarthy Park phase two. As you may

[140:58.85] recall, we'll show you a few pictures in a minute, but we've, we're finished with phase one.

[141:04.51] There is basically, this is an old industrial site, now a city park. So with old urban properties,

[141:13.53] there is contamination and soil. So every time we're doing earthwork and excavation,

[141:20.53] we have to manage the soil. It's not, it's very expensive. So we know a lot more about

[141:26.78] the site than we did when we started phase, phase one. So just getting into it, this is the,

[141:36.49] this is phase one. We're looking at an aerial of phase one where the, it started with the

[141:41.96] Sound Waters Education Building. Then we built a parking lot to service the building and the park.

[141:48.63] We provided an access road with a cul-de-sac. There used to be a parking lot back here.

[141:55.13] This is all tidal wetlands. So now it's just a series of green space and walking trails to the

[142:01.06] marine, to the pier. Heavily used, really well received park. We also took the

[142:09.02] access road into Bacuzzi and we aligned it with Congress Street. It used to be over here before,

[142:13.74] so it was a disjointed intersection. So everything runs a little bit more smoothly now.

[142:19.13] That's phase one completed. Phase two is just the other side. So we just talked about phase one,

[142:29.26] which was in this location here. Phase two is the other half and phase two is made up basically of

[142:35.56] new baseball fields, new tennis courts, basketball courts, splash pad, all, you know,

[142:42.62] upgrades in a, and the community is very adamant about putting a protective fence along the private

[142:49.34] property lines between the city property and the park. So, and all the soil remediation that goes

[142:56.61] along with this. So that's what the request is for. The request is going to yield, you know,

[143:03.25] something that looks basically like this rendering here, which is the second phase of

[143:08.76] Bacuzzi, which will complete the project in the south end. That's our third request.

[143:17.05] I guess it goes along with the federal grant and so the bond request is to be able to meet the

[143:23.94] requirements of that. Yes, thank you very much for that, Jen. The National Park Service has

[143:32.01] supported the city in the past with phase one and they're going to do that in phase two. So

[143:36.25] this is a National Park Service grant as making a part of the request. Priority number four.

[143:47.96] One last question is, is there a timeline on that grant that it needs to be spent by

[143:52.51] or no? There always is. I don't know what it is tonight, but I can find out and get you an answer.

[144:00.61] That'd be great. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. They're pretty, they're, they've been pretty good with us,

[144:06.30] but, but, but that's important to know. I know our timeline for the design, we haven't designed,

[144:12.38] we're in design now, but the design completion of phase two will be probably about July when the

[144:17.94] funding becomes available. We're going to bid this thing over the winter and then we're going

[144:21.30] to get started in the, in the early part of 2028 with the construction. So it's, it's probably

[144:26.48] going to coincide very closely with when this thing is going to expire. Sure. Citywide storm

[144:37.00] drains, we have some balance. The balance is allocated to a project we designed at Mead Farm

[144:42.36] off of June road. We've, we're at APB now getting regulatory permits. There's some pipe repair over

[144:49.37] in Pheasant Lane that we've finished designing. So the balance is going for that. The 2728 request

[144:57.61] continues to support drainage complaints that we get through fix it, but it also builds on,

[145:03.65] and I want to emphasize this, the ARPA funded citywide drainage assessment that we recently,

[145:09.57] that we are about to complete. Everything is sort of convert coming in at once. The, the,

[145:15.75] the citywide drainage assessment, the Tulsa and Brooke Springdale, Brooke, and the coastal

[145:19.98] resiliency plan are all kind of coming to completion now. And which is good for me because,

[145:25.18] because I have a really good sense of what the alternative treatments and mitigation strategies

[145:31.33] are with some costing around it still in flux a little bit. But what we do know is that we did

[145:38.27] submit just a couple of weeks ago, a fairly large grant to the USDOT for about $5.9 million.

[145:46.75] Not all the money is shown in this year's request, but if we do get the grant,

[145:51.95] you know, these projects are, are included within grant applications. So we have some,

[145:57.98] some allocations of, of, of grant money for these requests. We're going to basically,

[146:05.33] the request before you tonight is to utilize $600,000 to continue doing compound flood

[146:13.34] modeling within, within the, the analysis we've done. And that's what these, these

[146:19.23] graphics are showing. So the imagery on the right is all computer generated based on

[146:26.50] actual flooding that's occurring in these neighborhoods. We're modeling the city.

[146:30.72] And these are great tools to help us evaluate where the problematic conditions are,

[146:35.09] what the solutions are. It gets highly technical, but this is where the money's being spent.

[146:40.24] So this is an ongoing project and we do get a lot of complaints about flooding in the city.

[146:46.31] There are a lot of people that are impacted. What's challenging about the work is that

[146:51.97] the work is some of the properties are flood hazard zones. So they're close to water bodies

[146:58.40] and, and that's difficult to deal with. And also some of the properties are private,

[147:04.26] many of the properties are private properties. So, you know, when you have a river and you have two

[147:08.75] abutting property owners, the property line's in the middle. So what's the city's involvement?

[147:13.25] But we, you know, these people don't have the resources to, to, to hold back flood waters or

[147:18.75] to come up with creative strategies that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. So they're

[147:23.15] looking to the city for support. So we're factoring all of that into our, our evaluation

[147:29.14] and our assessment. As part of the solutions that we're talking about, if you haven't

[147:34.11] been participating in some of these meetings is the ability to, as Ralph was saying before,

[147:40.91] store water, looking for opportunities to store water, also increasing culvert sizes, things like

[147:47.68] this to reduce backwater effects onto, onto properties. So, you know, the lion's share of

[147:54.10] the request for this year, for this project is, is dealing with hydraulic and hydraulic modeling.

[147:59.86] The next part is to start implementing some of the projects that came out of the drainage

[148:05.97] assessment. We learned a great deal on Springdale Brook, for example. Here's, here's the, the

[148:11.85] Sterling Farms Golf Course. And we didn't really know prior to the studies, we've had many public

[148:17.19] meetings. We've, we've met in neighborhoods. I've walked many streets with many different

[148:21.84] residents all throughout the city. And we learned what they're, what they're seeing,

[148:26.20] what they're being impacted by. And we were really kind of surprised to know that Sterling

[148:30.79] Farms is a contributor to the neighborhood flooding on some of the streets, mainly Old

[148:36.10] Colony and Minnievale. The Springdale Brook runs over here. So this request is also to help us

[148:43.93] further evaluate what we can do at Sterling Farms to help reduce flood waters from getting

[148:52.22] onto private property. We could increase pond storage. We could create other sources of storage.

[148:57.60] We could potentially do some, you know, manipulating with grading, but all of these

[149:02.57] things would be done, you know, carefully so that we don't, you know, impact the operation

[149:08.81] of the golf course in any way. You know, we want to kind of keep things the way they are,

[149:12.76] but maybe the ponds just need to be dredged. Maybe the ponds need to be burned. All of these

[149:17.16] things are being evaluated as part of the ongoing drainage work we've been undertaking.

[149:22.21] So that's the drainage request. Next priority is a special project priority.

[149:29.77] Hang on just a second. I'm just checking the numbers on this. So this, the 600 of the state

[149:38.10] grant was for the modeling. And then you've consolidated what currently in the project

[149:48.44] description are listed as number two, number three, and number four. And the total of those

[149:53.55] together is 450, correct? And then another 200 for the fix-it requests that come in frequently.

[150:02.58] You know, people call in with different issues that we try to remediate with the highway

[150:07.82] departments, stormwater control people. We actually do the larger infrastructure projects

[150:14.37] that come in through fix-it. So we added $200,000 onto that. So the total is 650.

[150:21.44] Okay. So I think if you could just, in the description, I think in consolidating as you

[150:29.68] read it on the slide, what's currently numbered as two, three, and four, and then moving,

[150:38.85] making sure that in the project description, I guess you can list it as item three, the

[150:46.66] fund to address drainage complaints from fix-it. Just so it's clear how that's broken out.

[150:53.63] I know what you're looking for. Thank you. Okay. Moving on to priority five,

[151:02.14] Briarwood and Fessant Lane. This is a prior year request that was zeroed out.

[151:06.76] It's basically the same number. We're still getting the same complaints by the same four

[151:11.77] butters. You can see here, there's a significant amount of runoff from Briarwood Lane coming down.

[151:20.93] What's important here is these contours from one road to another are very steep. So when it rains,

[151:26.29] this water is coming through private property very quickly and it is impacting four properties.

[151:32.82] And not only that, it's having an effect on the drainage system of the road itself.

[151:37.37] So this is a very real flooding problem that impacts, yes, mainly four people,

[151:43.87] but as you can see, it's always the case. So every time it rains to any significant amount,

[151:50.01] these are the complaints coming in. So you can see here when the lines are very close together,

[151:55.78] these are very steep. So water is basically collecting along this road up here and just

[152:01.56] cascading all the way down the hill and finding the path of least resistance to affect these

[152:07.48] homeowners. This little insert here in the middle is the proposed design that'll help alleviate a

[152:14.01] lot of this and also repair some of the drainage that's on the road networks itself. Again, just

[152:21.62] another graphic showing the same type of impact to the properties downstream on the steep embankment

[152:28.75] slope. Priority six is to finish the design that we started in the drainage assessment. We don't

[152:40.15] have enough money in our ARPA funds to finish this design, but with another $100,000 we can,

[152:46.39] and then we can put it out to bid in an out year request for construction. And that project is as

[152:53.70] follows. So this is Stillwater and Hollywell. Here's an example of what it could look, what

[152:59.58] it has looked like during flooding events, but there's some new pipe networks that we could put

[153:06.94] in, drain into the golf course pond, helping improve the access way to some of the catch

[153:13.65] basins that are off the road line. So it makes it difficult for the highway people to get in and

[153:19.60] clean. So these improvements can make a big difference here. And this request is just to

[153:25.92] finish the design for that project we started as part of the drainage assessment.

[153:35.02] So I understand. So the funds that were appropriated for the start of this project

[153:43.86] live in a different account or are they just not reflected in the history?

[153:48.71] Yeah, they live in an account for ARPA funding of a citywide drainage assessment. There were

[153:53.89] $500,000 that we're spending down by December of 2026 to finish that project. What came out

[154:02.22] of that project were two designs. This was one of them. We actually went before the state DEP for

[154:11.31] some additional funding, but this one didn't make it past the bond commission. So we're hopeful

[154:17.31] that we can finish the design and then we'll continue to look for grant opportunities

[154:22.68] to be able to go into construction here. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Resiliency and climate

[154:31.12] adaptation implementation. This is basically the coastal, Stanford's coastal flood hazard

[154:38.53] evaluation and what's come out of this. There's been a lot of things that have come out of this.

[154:44.30] We've had many public meetings and we've submitted many grants. The two primary things that the

[154:50.64] funding is being requested for is to fund, I think to my own notes here, to fund backflow

[155:04.83] preventers and storm lines that outfall into the sound and also to create a flood network

[155:16.54] early flood detection systems within Stanford. Those are two of the things that came out of the

[155:22.13] coastal resiliency study that we are prioritizing is priority number seven here. When storm pipes

[155:33.62] discharge into the sound and the tide is flooding, the tidal waters are filling up the pipes and if

[155:40.31] there's a precipitation event, the water can't get out. So by putting in backflow preventers

[155:46.43] and key areas, we can reduce the amount of coastal flooding in some of the low line areas.

[155:52.96] So that's one of the items that we have here under the federal grant. The other one is the

[156:00.41] real-time flood sensor network. There's a multi-phase approach to this. So I have some

[156:06.38] graphics that I can show you. So here's an excerpt from the study which basically is

[156:13.16] identifying the outfall protection measures and where they're potentially going to be located.

[156:18.44] The next slide shows the adaptation of flood sensor locations throughout the coastal areas.

[156:26.46] So these are two early action projects that we've actually put in our federal grant and we're

[156:33.39] hopeful that if you were to authorize this money, once the federal grants become approved,

[156:40.06] then we can just roll into implementation. The outfalls will take some design work,

[156:48.19] but the projects are pretty well defined now through the study. So that's priority number

[156:56.77] seven. So the funding source on this is listed as federal grant? Yes. Okay, so you're listing out

[157:05.14] how you anticipate allocating those two studies? Basically, the priority for fiscal year 27-28 is

[157:15.84] for those two projects to finish, to continue the work we started, which is the outfall protection

[157:21.92] and also the flood sensors. Those are two components of multiple components of the

[157:26.96] coastal flood resiliency plan. There are others, but those are out year requests. And they're a

[157:31.80] function of whether we get, if we get the DOT, I'm sorry, if we get the Protect grant, which is

[157:38.18] a $5.9 million grant, I'll be back before you to talk about other projects that we're going to

[157:42.78] potentially work on at that time. Okay. I told some Brooke, again, there's a state grant request

[157:54.00] for $650,000 here. The main thing that we're trying to do here, we've already submitted for

[157:59.44] one deep grant, and we didn't get it because it didn't get through the state bond commission.

[158:05.48] So the grant was pulled back on the state level, but we're going to continue pursuing other

[158:09.24] opportunities. And that's why I have it listed under state grant. And last week, I had a public

[158:14.27] meeting to talk about this to the community. And if I can get my slide to advance here,

[158:19.39] okay, there it is. We've done an in-depth study of the upper watershed area of Toilsum.

[158:31.97] That's basically all the riverine flooding associated with river flooding and overtopping.

[158:38.05] The lower part is the more urbanized section of the Toilsum Brook,

[158:41.95] which is all basically pipe network and an underground river. So we didn't have enough

[158:48.90] funding with the ARPA money to do this work. But our next step with any type of grant money

[158:55.62] is to pursue this. That way, the Toilsum Brook evaluation is complete. So this request is just

[159:04.70] to request the grant money to do just that. By the way, just for your information, if anybody's

[159:12.24] interested to doing more about what we've accomplished in the study, there's a QR code,

[159:17.80] there's a website. There's also a website for the Stanford Coastal Resiliency Plan. It's a very

[159:23.08] comprehensive plan with a lot of information. So if that is of interest to you, I would urge you

[159:27.32] to take a look at that. Priority number nine. I will also add, Lou, the planning board will

[159:36.26] be getting a presentation on the Coastal Flood Resiliency Plan by the consultant team and the

[159:44.24] city staff in November, December time. Okay, yeah, I heard that earlier. Yeah.

[159:50.72] Looks like Chet has a question. Yeah, Lou, just on the Toilsum again, it looks like the only box,

[159:58.26] or one of two boxes that is not checked under justification, is that it is a continuation of

[160:05.34] an ongoing project. So perhaps we should check that box. Yeah, thanks for pointing that out.

[160:17.47] Bridge safety repairs and designs. So this is a small amount of money when it goes towards bridge

[160:23.16] projects, but it's enough for me to be able to do things when problems occur. What I'm always

[160:28.36] struggling with is whenever there's a state safety person calling me about a concern or

[160:36.47] could be reported and fix it, I don't really have an account that I can go to for small

[160:41.82] emergency type evaluations, assessments for evaluation. So that's what this is for. It's

[160:49.14] just a small account to allow the department to be able to look into repairs that are urgent,

[160:56.67] that need to be corrected immediately and not allowed to manifest themselves into something

[161:02.03] bigger. So that's what differentiates this from the other ones. There's no imagery that goes with

[161:10.03] that. Environmental assessments. It's a similar project where the state of Connecticut has adopted

[161:20.17] a new release-based soil regulations. This replaces the transfer act.

[161:29.07] So we have very regimented protocols we have to follow when we encounter polluted material.

[161:37.01] Sometimes we're doing small projects where we just need to get a sense of what we're dealing

[161:42.37] with. Sometimes we're planning on a project, so this account would enable us to do some soil

[161:46.61] testing and evaluation before getting too deep into the project. A lot of board members want

[161:51.98] to know why is it so expensive and you know why didn't you why didn't you discover this earlier.

[161:57.22] So this account will help us do some initial assessments so that when we start developing

[162:03.64] budgets and for projects we have a better sense of what we're dealing with. This is a test but

[162:11.88] I have it in here. We're working on advancing a design which is underway for Cummings Marina

[162:17.56] that we lost during Hurricane Sandy. You can kind of see that that the outline of the design right

[162:23.17] now but this is something that's coming in the future. Stillwater and Progress Drive also another

[162:32.57] area of known flooding. We've advanced the design of this project pretty far in our ARPA project.

[162:40.96] You can see some of the concepts we've got here. This is Leonie Park so here's an area where you

[162:46.64] know we we're trying to minimize the upgrade of infrastructure in the street network because it's

[162:52.84] such an urban area. There's utilities all over the place. It's very costly, very time consuming

[162:58.51] and disruptive to start tearing up streets. So here we we have a plan where we have a lot of

[163:04.09] underground. We have we have open space you know and we we are trying to create detention as much

[163:11.59] detention as possible. We already have detention for the ball fields but this is detention to

[163:16.28] really hold the peak before the you know the storms have an ability to flood our local roads

[163:23.71] and flow overland. We hold it in underground first and this is another concept with a small

[163:28.78] little detention basin. So these are projects that have been designed but we're you know we're

[163:35.52] going to request these for out-ear funding and we're going to continue to look for grant

[163:38.96] opportunities at in that time. That's why it's a low priority and it's an out-ear request.

[163:44.09] So here's here's kind of what it looks like under some storm events. There's surcharging in the

[163:50.22] road. You know we can do some basic storage and some reconfiguration of the pipe network to

[163:55.54] control all of this. Citywide roadway correction we have funds in the account so we're just holding

[164:05.69] this as a placeholder for the future. Some of the things we've done recently with the roadway

[164:10.33] correction is we've done we've had a couple of walls retaining walls that that supports city

[164:15.45] streets that are starting to be of concern. And so we've done geotechnical testing stability

[164:22.73] analysis so we have a better sense of you know how to approach some of these repair projects

[164:28.20] going forward. So that's where some of the money's been spent recently. And that's the end of the

[164:33.38] presentation. I'll stop this here. Any further questions? Okay thanks very much. I know that's

[164:48.08] a significant portfolio to walk through. Right thank you for your time. Feel free to ask me

[164:53.93] any questions as they come to mind. I do want to acknowledge that we are now we're past nine

[165:01.53] and we have four items left on the docket. I do want to just kind of check in with numbers and

[165:08.12] see if folks want like a couple minute stretch break or if we just keep plowing onward. All right

[165:17.65] onward. I'll go quickly. Sorry. I'll go quickly. Okay thank you. Yeah so operations maintenance

[165:26.99] facilities. Have you got to introduce yourself for the record. Hi everybody Scott Butch director

[165:30.93] facilities and sustainability for the city of Samford. So I think I don't know if you have

[165:36.36] the updated one. So we have we have a different kind of priority number one which I think was

[165:41.81] party number six. I'm not sure if you guys got the updated one. So I'm gonna I'll do the do that

[165:45.65] one first. You could scroll down to the last one whoever's leading the presentation. So citywide

[165:51.91] facilities life cycle planning and assessment. So we bumped this up to our department priority

[165:56.15] number one. This was our priority number one last year as well when we submitted it. So this is to

[166:02.05] develop a long term strategic facilities and life cycle cost plan. So this is in line with

[166:07.08] what the schools did about five or six years ago which has then led into a lot of the decision

[166:12.36] making in terms of what schools to close expand consolidate etc. So we really need to do the same

[166:19.10] thing on the city facility side. So I'm entering you know my fourth year here the first couple

[166:23.97] years really has been about you know putting out fires you know trying to make sure that we're

[166:28.03] getting our facilities up to a higher standard and now we really need to start embarking on a

[166:33.18] 10-year capital planning cycle where we have a 10-year waterfall and we're making decisions kind

[166:38.05] of in a more strategic and holistic way. So last year we put in it was cut by the board finance.

[166:45.29] We are seeking to ask for the money again. We do have an RFP out currently. We have an active RFP

[166:51.90] out for this work. So we are seeking the the money for that for for this next fiscal year.

[166:59.39] So if you pop back up to the top of the presentation for me. Yep thank you.

[167:04.45] So next is heating system replacement. So this is CP 3805. This is for replacing end of life

[167:11.59] cycle units with high efficiency replacements helps meet our sustainability goals. So this

[167:16.82] is a combination of proactive you know designed replacements of end of cycle units as well as

[167:23.03] you know really emergency reactive use. We've used this account a combination of both.

[167:29.69] So we're seeking you know additional funding. So you know right now I don't have enough to do an

[167:34.21] entire building. I do have some opportunities to do an entire building an entire fire department.

[167:39.45] I do have some additional incentives from Eversource that are still available up to

[167:45.12] $200,000. So I'm looking to fund this account so we can both do an entire building potentially

[167:50.80] south end fire department number two. That's out the fire department number two which is the south

[167:54.24] end as well as making sure that we have money in this account for reactive as well as keeping an

[167:59.66] eye on you know longer term replacements. You know boilers we use this for the boiler control

[168:04.94] replacement of government center this fiscal year. So this is a really key critical account for us.

[168:10.99] And the the current balance again what's the expectation there? Yeah so like I said it's a

[168:17.15] combination you know it's a combination of making sure that we have this account funded for you know

[168:22.63] we've replaced upwards of 30 units in three years you know. So we're you can see with our expenditures

[168:28.01] we're highly active in this account. However if we want to do an entire building it's upwards of

[168:31.85] $500,000, $600,000. You know boiler could be upwards of $400,000. So you know these these are

[168:37.34] pretty significant expenses. So we need to make sure that we have these you know a significant

[168:41.50] amount in these accounts ready to go. Yeah okay. Next is city-wide building and energy

[168:50.58] management systems. This has been a really key item that we introduced three years ago and when

[168:55.30] I started. So this was to both expand and upgrade our building management systems. City-wise we've

[169:03.01] been working really closely with Siemens on upgrading our systems. We've upgraded government

[169:08.07] center, the police department, central fire department. We have units up at Lathan Wider.

[169:13.53] We're working on getting units up at Yearwood Center. We also a lot of this money could

[169:19.45] potentially be used towards the historical center as a historical society center. I know there's

[169:24.24] been a lot of interest from the community and from the historical society about that building

[169:29.77] that also has some deficiency. So it's a combination of both installing and upgrading

[169:34.50] a BMS system as well as upgrading deficiencies and HVAC systems. They kind of go hand in hand

[169:40.29] when we do this work together. So this would be to continue with the the great progress we've

[169:45.97] made city-wide on building a city-wide platform. Next government center renovations. Again you

[169:55.09] can see that we've been highly active with you know expenditures in this account. You know the

[169:59.91] government center which was built I think it opened 1986 I believe. You know a lot of the spaces

[170:05.50] again haven't been touched or renovated in over 40 years. So a couple of things at the top of the

[170:11.18] list for the money that we're requesting. One is for magnetometers essentially touchless weapons

[170:17.77] detection systems for the main entry doors and the garage entry doors into the government center

[170:23.25] which is kind of a really key component of our security. As you've seen you know adding in the

[170:27.75] turnstiles at the front desk and really starting to secure that building the way it needs to be

[170:32.23] secured. This would be another step in doing that. MEP upgrades for cashiering and permitting

[170:37.86] so on the first floor and town clerk. So those first floor areas were not designed to be office

[170:43.29] spaces. They were designed as essentially back of house storage when the building was originally built.

[170:48.05] So all of the mechanical systems in those spaces are not what they need to be to have people you

[170:54.76] know living and working in those areas. You know we have a lot of issues with heating and cooling

[170:59.84] and cashiering. We really need to go to more of a front of house back of house you know kind of

[171:05.80] operation in the town clerk for safety and security reasons. So that's one item. The other one is the

[171:11.82] fourth floor board chambers and the multi-purpose space which is really kind of on the old cafeteria

[171:17.00] side. So looking at renovating those spaces we already have money for design which we're looking

[171:22.90] to begin utilizing this year and then some of this money would be used for actual construction

[171:27.78] of upgrading those spaces and providing a real great multi-purpose space for community events

[171:33.52] on the on the fourth floor government side. The next city-wide floor replacement again this was

[171:42.61] one that we again a couple years ago we we've utilized you know what we've had we absolutely

[171:47.47] haven't touched yet this fiscal year but but we will again you know government center a lot of

[171:52.46] the flooring is 40 years old you can only imagine kind of you know what's you know kind of in some

[171:57.00] of the carpeting in those areas. So this is just about slowly and surely trying to upgrade flooring

[172:01.70] services city-wide but really with a focus on government center and we're looking to expand

[172:07.25] that to Old Town Hall and Lathan Wider and a lot of other facilities that just kind of need some

[172:11.61] some TLC and some upgrades. Last one is the buildings and utilities capital line items so

[172:20.03] this is really focused on CCTV installation at some of the outer buildings particularly

[172:25.47] Highways, Fleet, Scofield, and Haightown Yard. Again this is just about safety security reducing

[172:31.84] you know reducing liabilities you know kind of typical risk management liability you know

[172:36.96] management. So we're looking to you know get some CCTV at those at some of those outer buildings

[172:42.33] and that's that's it for me for this fiscal year so I'm glad to take any questions.

[172:47.90] Questions uh no questions um and I will just uh for the record just so in my notes the

[173:03.36] so the for the flooring replacement the expectation is that the current balance will be zeroed out

[173:07.60] by the end of the fiscal year. Yeah we've been using correct we've been using the fiscal year

[173:12.56] in the fiscal year we just haven't you know we're only like I said two three months in we just

[173:16.24] haven't touched yet this fiscal year. Right and then the same for um the building and

[173:21.26] energy management systems the expectation is to spend down the balance. Yeah you're yeah we have

[173:25.66] POs going in for your word we have upgrades at Central Fire um you know that's that that

[173:30.30] fund those funds will be used and the expectation of historical society is uh you know a pretty

[173:35.34] significant number so that's what the you know the balance that we're requesting would be

[173:39.73] utilized probably most most for it historically. All right thank you very much. Thank you. We are

[173:50.28] now on to operation stormwater management. Good evening I'll be short and sweet with everything.

[173:59.97] Okay just quickly introduce yourself for the record. Hello my name is Thomas Turk I am the

[174:07.55] director of transportation which includes highways traffic engineering signs and lines

[174:14.14] and the parking fund so and and stormwater management uh so this is the environmental

[174:24.76] compliance account uh we're asking for $100,000 this year and $50,000 in the out years. The reason

[174:32.62] for the additional monies this year is the state has issued new permits for our five regulated

[174:40.02] sites with those new permits comes registration fees uh I spoke with Tyler theater who runs that

[174:48.70] stuff he says it's about 15,000 each that's 75 grand plus a couple other things to be in compliance

[174:57.93] so that's why there's a raise for this year and then back to 50 grand in the out years. Any

[175:10.61] questions? Uh no questions um so if you want to move now to um traffic and road maintenance.

[175:24.27] Yes so this is city-wide manhole and basin what that means is any catch basin or manhole or

[175:34.33] drainage system that is failing this is the emergency repair account and currently there's

[175:41.94] about 200 outstanding issues throughout the city some are higher priority than others usually we

[175:49.51] focus on anything with high traffic so because of all the you know obvious reasons it's higher

[175:56.42] traffic bigger traffic like trucks and then we get to the dead end roads and smaller traffic

[176:03.26] areas as soon as we can but this is very critical that's why it's priority number one it's real

[176:10.68] holes in the ground that need to be fixed next. Okay next street patch and resurfacing. Street

[176:21.22] patch and resurfacing is a long way to say paving this is for the roads that we do the top 200 list

[176:28.51] we try to get as much done as we can each year uh the funding was a little less last year mainly

[176:36.28] due to the school work which I understand but we asked for the 10 million we usually did for this

[176:41.96] year and the simple equation the more we get the more roads we can pave. Um and the balance right

[176:49.83] now you're expecting to be expended in the spring once we're back in paving season. Yes we're

[176:55.62] currently paving 10 roads right now so that'll eat into it and then whatever we pave in the

[177:01.17] spring we'll eat into it. Citywide sidewalks is for sidewalks similar to paving this lets us do

[177:12.51] sidewalks throughout the city they are a little more expensive because there's a lot more labor

[177:18.17] involved but again the more funds we get the more sidewalks we can produce. Utility paving

[177:29.95] this is our newer paving program that coordinates with all the utilities around town I'm sure most

[177:37.37] of you have seen the trenching that happens the goal of this account is to coordinate with the

[177:43.28] utilities and we either push them to have them pave it faster with a little more permit pressure

[177:50.66] or in cases where they only owe half the road and the other half is in disrepair but it's

[177:57.06] not on our paving list we will uh take a check from them to do their half and then we'll complete

[178:05.48] the road curb to curb so that residents aren't stuck with a nice commute one way out and a rough

[178:12.62] commute one way back in so it's just a way to complete bad roads curb to curb whenever utility

[178:19.96] touches it. And again this one is expected to be spent down by the end of the fiscal year.

[178:25.57] Yes it's been a very productive account. All right guardrails we ask for the minimum but

[178:35.87] the balance is getting low this is for guardrails throughout the city sometimes we get hit and runs

[178:43.11] that we can't chase anybody for their insurance but they're critical to get repaired right of way

[178:49.63] or right away because they are a safety issue and it also covers some fencing and stuff

[178:56.40] throughout the city as needed so we just need the minimum balance here to refund the project.

[179:04.29] Okay um any questions these are all pretty routine so uh thank you very much. Yeah I'll

[179:15.52] let Luke speak to the traffic engineering stuff. Okay yes last but not least traffic engineering.

[179:22.14] Hello again I'm really bookending the meeting tonight um so good evening uh CP 1281 roadway

[179:28.27] design and reconstruction uh the majority of our transportation planning engineering

[179:32.48] projects are state funded um however the normal kind of formula process is that the city

[179:36.96] undertakes the design um of these projects and then the state funds and then sometimes

[179:41.45] there's also a little bit of state match to those so this is basically our design for various

[179:46.97] projects throughout the city or state funded um such as city-wide pedestrian circle upgrades

[179:52.13] about upgrading 40 signals signalized intersections in the city for pedestrian safety um upgrading uh

[179:59.18] new.

[180:00.10] We have six intersections with brand new traffic signals, that's CMAQ Phase H. We are Guillain Avenue Design, three million dollar lots of grant, Lockwood Avenue safety improvements, or six million dollar state grant supporting a new elementary school that's getting built over there.

[180:17.46] It is actually the site of a recent fatality and also upgrades to Portland Avenue and construction support services.

[180:25.55] We do actually have a pretty low balance in this account and then, yeah, this will definitely be spent down at the end of this fiscal year. So this is really the city's kind of priming the pump, so to speak, for all these state grants which roughly supports I want to say in the range of $50 million in state infrastructure investments.

[180:45.39] So, 2.5 or 50 million. And then of course a balance you can see down below as well for Birch Street and Third Street as I mentioned that we'll be spending those down.

[180:59.78] Yeah, thank you. Luke, under comments you're indicating the comprehensive plan strategies that you believe that this project and these funds will address.

[181:15.56] Can you help me understand better your last Strategy 20? Because in your project description, I don't believe I see anything that affects intermodal mobility.

[181:30.10] Sure. So the city is a complete streets ordinance. So any transportation project within the city of Stanford is supposed to be a complete street or multimodal. So that's supporting bicycles, pedestrians, transit users, drivers as needed on the road.

[181:46.90] So, for instance, that first project is where you signalize intersection upgrades for pedestrians, right? So all of our projects are inherently multimodal and then supporting reduced car dependency for that Strategy 20 right there.

[181:58.92] Thank you. I appreciate the clarification.

[182:07.20] We'll go to C56174, Citywide Signals. This is our second department priority over here. So requesting a million dollars. This specific ask broken down is $800,000 from Lafayette Street signal replacement. ADA upgrades signals for $100,000 and communication upgrades $100,000. So, you know, our traffic signals are connected by a fiber optic network.

[182:32.87] You know, you'll see a big box kind of on the side of each signalize intersection. That's our traffic signal cabinet that has various controllers in there connecting to our camera systems that allow for signals to talk to each other.

[182:44.93] As well as go back to our Central Traffic Operations Center here, as well as be more adaptive to changing traffic patterns. The balance I do just want to point out, as I kind of outlined everything here, but $3 million of the balance is a state grant that's in the project.

[183:00.68] And then there's also, as you know, I come to the board every month or so with private contributions that are kind of earmarked for those specific intersections.

[183:08.68] So that balance is not as copious and citywide reaching as you may think. So I just want to kind of outline those needs over there.

[183:18.99] We do have the second largest traffic signal system in the state. We have 211 traffic signals. We own and operate every signal in the city with the exception of two with our very dedicated team of traffic signal maintenance personnel.

[183:31.98] And then go into that support and construction of that system. So if you cut this, you can never complain about being stuck in a red light. I'm just going to say that now.

[183:44.42] Okay, Andrew.

[183:45.44] Yeah, quick question, Luke.

[183:48.56] The $3 million that's in the amount available, is that dedicated for specific intersections or specific set of lights?

[183:58.27] Yes.

[183:59.76] Okay, thanks. Just wanted to make sure I understood that. Thank you.

[184:02.85] Yeah, those are separate earmarked kind of standalone projects.

[184:06.43] Okay, next Vision Zero Action Plan.

[184:12.70] Yes, so as you know, the city adopted the Vision Zero program, actually the first city in the state to do so, eliminating serious and fatal traffic fatalities by the year 2032.

[184:24.02] We've been working diligently through our implementation of this action plan.

[184:31.26] This is, you know, I kind of have this, I don't want to call it a gripe, but it's a note that the budgeting process calendar doesn't line up nicely with the construction calendar.

[184:41.70] So this $800,000 does get spent down prior to the fiscal year in this 500 basic. This $500,000 is really for spring of 2028.

[184:51.99] And we're going to spend on the $800,000 spring of 2027, summer of 2027. This is really focusing on the city's high injury network to, you know, basically implement the recommendations from the plan.

[185:10.93] The 8705, most of this existing balance is a state grant. And then this is really focusing on more of the recommendations the bicycle pedestrian master plan a little more focus on bike facilities and requesting $250,000 for this.

[185:29.33] We are working actually on a citywide bike parking plan right now, doing that all completely in house, a lot of some of that, this funding will actually go towards implementation that bike parking plan to.

[185:42.77] The 8704 the city is working on wrapping up the transition plan, which kind of going to outline upgrades to the sidewalks and pedestrian ramps for compliance for transportation network legally mandated.

[185:55.87] So we want to start working on a cycle of upgrading pedestrian ramps and ADA compliance issues across the city with this account.

[186:05.07] And then again, that 750 would get drawn down. We are looking to take advantage of a state contract for pedestrian ramp upgrades to kind of make the biggest bang for our buck.

[186:17.32] And then we'll have our ADA transition plan, which will kind of very easily outline, you know, path forwards and budgeting for us and how much we can get done in each year, etc.

[186:25.32] So, you know, once that plan is done in a month or so, we'll really be up and running and we'll use a 750 spring summer 27 and then 1469 is a new project transportation facility.

[186:43.08] So the transportation department is a few different divisions, right? So Thomas mentioned, you know, transmission planning and engineering traffic maintenance parking as well as road maintenance.

[186:52.27] So we have about six facilities within our department, including a lot of our salt sheds.

[186:58.37] A key part of this project here is going to be upgrades to like the Hague Avenue town yard facility.

[187:05.42] So the salt shed has passed its useful life. The garages at Hague Avenue are WPA era construction.

[187:13.47] I'm a nerd and I found the WPA report in the library about this actually.

[187:18.56] It's actually kind of cool, but essentially the buildings were not built for modern road maintenance equipment that Jason mentioned earlier, for instance, we just can't fit in there.

[187:29.52] And then again, the salt shed is beginning to really have significant maintenance costs.

[187:34.49] It's usable now, but if it is not usable, you'll lose about a third of our salt capacity, which last winter we basically, you know, had one grain of salt left in the salt sheds at the end of the winter.

[187:48.66] So it's really important to have our salt shed capacity to be able to handle these storms that we're having.

[187:55.66] So in large part and also just some that's so monies for drawings as well as some upgrades to our facilities as well.

[188:02.72] And then last but not least, just a quick question.

[188:08.09] So in the description on the salt shed, it says that there is significant maintenance costs.

[188:14.24] Are you able to quantify currently what those costs are?

[188:17.24] I don't have the exact number, but I do know that Thomas probably has actually a little more background on the maintenance requirements.

[188:23.24] But I think the outer skin is beginning to fail.

[188:26.24] The inner wall is beginning to fail.

[188:28.24] We have to routinely patch the roof and wall of the salt shed.

[188:33.78] Okay, just having a sense of kind of what the ongoing cost is to maintain in the absence of this would be helpful.

[188:41.09] Facilities would have more numbers and I just complain to them and then they fix it.

[188:47.37] They would have more numbers.

[188:49.37] We'll reach out to them and try to get that for you.

[188:54.21] Yeah, that will be helpful.

[188:56.96] I will just say in the last decade, I've seen a lot of requests right around this price point that languish for a long time.

[189:02.96] And like over the course of like five years, we've spent the amount in repairs that we could have spent five years ago just replacing the thing.

[189:11.10] So those numbers are very helpful.

[189:13.10] And then CP four zero three zero three zero three eleven transit upgrades.

[189:24.28] So we have a three million bus rides and CT transit every year.

[189:27.68] I don't think people really fully grasp that to be frank with you.

[189:31.68] Seventy six percent of all parcels are then having a walk to a bus stop.

[189:34.68] This comprehensive plan had a lot of great deep dive into our bus network in the city.

[189:42.03] We do collect ad revenue from our bus shelters.

[189:46.50] We used to collect a lot more ad revenue from our bus shelters back when print advertising was really a thing.

[189:53.59] But at this point, revenue can really only cover the cost and maintenance of our bus shelters,

[189:58.55] which is things such as snow removal, graffiti removal, general cleaning, minor glass replacement, things like that.

[190:04.55] We really are not in a position to be able to do full shelter replacements with ad revenue funds anymore,

[190:10.80] which means you just have to start using capital funds.

[190:14.63] You may have read recently in the advocate that we are partnering with the state on upgrading our bus shelters.

[190:20.85] We are trying to use a lot of that state money to do bus shelter upgrades on state roads and permitting process a lot easier for us.

[190:28.94] And then, you know, state can use its money on the state property.

[190:32.94] So, you know, this funding we're going to go towards kind of some city projects, for instance, new bus shelters at Old Town Hall, things of that nature.

[190:41.11] And also, you know, the state process isn't the fastest thing. So, you know, if we need to do larger capital repairs, some of our bus shelters,

[190:49.07] this is where that money is going towards. So, yes, I'm happy to take any questions on the last seven.

[190:59.26] Sure. No one is tired. And so here we have plenty of questions.

[191:07.63] All right. Well, thank you very much. Okay. Thank you very much. I think that concludes our agenda.

[191:22.07] Then our next regularly scheduled meeting is on November 4th.

[191:27.07] Again, that will be a Wednesday next week because election day is Tuesday, followed by meetings on November 10 and 17 for a capital budget and regular meeting.

[191:39.30] If any members kind of in the meantime, after having reviewed things, have questions of the departments, we can send those along.

[191:48.72] And if we require further clarification, what's labeled as the November 17 meeting capital budget callback.

[191:55.72] That's usually kind of when we call back various presenters if there are things that can't be kind of easily answered by email for us to better understand the projects.

[192:07.24] All right. Well, thank you very much. And we can go ahead and adjourn.

[192:15.81] Thank you. Thank you. The time is 9 48.