2026-10-13 - City Council

00:01:25.95] >> Good

00:01:27.18] >> morning and welcome to the

00:01:28.65] city of Cars. Springs City

00:01:30.15] Council meeting for Tuesday,

00:01:32.55] OCTOBER 13th 2026. Well, the

00:01:36.62] clerk please call the roll.

00:01:39.29] >> Councilmember Casey here,

00:01:39.99] Councilmember Crow Anderson,

00:01:40.70] here, Councilmember Donelson

00:01:42.34] councilmember gold. Here. I

00:01:44.70] am. Councilmember engine

00:01:45.87] present councilmember lines

00:01:47.74] over here, councilmember rainy

00:01:49.74] here, Councilmember Risley

00:01:53.11] here, Councilmember Williams.

00:01:57.28] 9 PRESIDENT.

00:01:58.38] >> We will now stand for the

00:02:00.12] invocation and the Pledge of

00:02:01.75] Allegiance. Today. We are

00:02:02.65] joined by Pastor Alan Paterson

00:02:13.50] from Victory Life Church.

00:02:15.15] >> What we want to just first

00:02:16.37] by giving you thanks for this

00:02:17.73] day. We thank you, Lord, GOD,

00:02:19.80] for your grace upon us. We

00:02:20.84] pray over toward got today's

00:02:21.67] proceedings that you would

00:02:22.51] give the mind of Christ in the

00:02:24.61] wisdom of the Lord to those

00:02:26.48] that want gun, you have placed

00:02:29.45] as leaders in our community.

00:02:30.15] We ask you, Lord GOD that you

00:02:33.22] give them divine wisdom that

00:02:33.92] you would bless the Morgan as

00:02:34.62] you bless our city and those

00:02:37.42] that serve in our city. We ask

00:02:38.96] you, Lord today that you're

00:02:39.16] going would be up on this

00:02:40.29] proceedings today. We pray for

00:02:44.13] peace, a bar city lord in our

00:02:44.80] community. We thank you or

00:02:46.77] that. You bless us with unity.

00:02:48.74] More new blessing us with

00:02:49.67] peace that your blessing this

00:02:51.81] Lord GOD, with respect for one

00:02:53.84] another, we pray over Colorado

00:02:54.48] Springs right now for the

00:02:57.78] blessing of Unity. Morgan

00:02:58.68] peace slogan for your word

00:02:59.58] says Blessed are the

00:03:00.68] peacemakers. We pray that you

00:03:02.35] would raise a peacemakers in

00:03:03.39] our community and we pray,

00:03:06.22] father, GOD, right now over

00:03:08.19] our schools, our first

00:03:08.86] responders more got all our

00:03:10.23] military and all that serve in

00:03:11.19] our community. We praise you

00:03:11.90] and thank you, Lord GOD that

00:03:15.40] you're with us. We ask you,

00:03:16.72] Lord GOD for today for the

00:03:17.37] Mind of Christ, the wisdom of

00:03:20.50] the Lord and peace of GOD. O

00:03:21.87] Lord bless us and keep us o

00:03:22.71] Lord make face shine upon us

00:03:25.91] and be gracious to us. Lord

00:03:26.58] Turner, countless tours to

00:03:28.15] give us peace. The name of

00:03:32.99] Jesus. We pray. Amen. Amen.

00:03:35.49] >> I pledge allegiance to the

00:03:37.94] flag. The United States of

00:03:38.93] America and to the Republic

00:03:44.63] for you One nation under GOD,

00:03:45.27] indivisible, liberty and

00:03:52.24] justice for all.

00:03:53.47] >> We will now consider the

00:03:54.18] consent calendar. These items

00:03:56.81] will be acted on as a whole

00:03:57.45] unless a specific item is

00:04:00.22] called for discussion by

00:04:00.82] Councilmember assistant

00:04:01.42] wishing to address the

00:04:04.92] council. COUNCILMAN Gold.

00:04:05.62] >> like to pull item for ba

00:04:07.16] off of the consent. Please.

00:04:19.30] >> Or the? Will be pulled out.

00:04:22.14] Moving on to recognitions. How

00:04:26.11] do we still need to it

00:04:27.28] develops? Need to vote on on

00:04:30.35] except for for ba. I have a

00:04:31.48] motion from COUNCILMAN Tension

00:04:32.42] and a second from COUNCILMAN

00:04:33.42] Gold on favor. Say Any

00:04:38.95] opposed. Moving on to

00:04:47.40] recognitions. This morning. We

00:04:48.84] have a proclamation supporting

00:04:49.90] Al Paso County, Public Safety

00:04:52.54] sales tax. The renewal and the

00:04:53.17] continued private tours,

00:04:53.81] prioritization of public

00:04:56.71] service. I have the honor and

00:04:57.41] the pleasure of reading this

00:05:03.52] proclamation. Paso County

00:05:05.69] voters first approved a

00:05:07.46] dedicated point to 3% public

00:05:08.19] safety sales tax and use tax

00:05:11.56] in 2012 to provide funding for

00:05:12.43] central law enforcement and

00:05:16.37] public safety services. And

00:05:16.67] whereas the public safety

00:05:18.27] sales tax has provided stable,

00:05:20.20] dedicated funding for critical

00:05:21.64] services provided by the Paso

00:05:22.47] County Sheriff's Office,

00:05:27.21] including patrol deputies,

00:05:28.21] detention operations,

00:05:29.21] emergency communications

00:05:29.78] technology training,

00:05:31.18] equipment, wild land

00:05:34.99] firefighting in public service

00:05:36.79] and infrastructure. And

00:05:38.60] whereas the public safety

00:05:39.96] sales tax currently supports

00:05:40.63] nearly 197 positions within

00:05:41.79] the sheriff's office,

00:05:47.40] including patrol duties.

00:05:47.60] Investigators, civilian

00:05:51.47] support personnel and wild

00:05:53.27] land fire personnel as well as

00:05:54.21] facilities and other resources

00:05:55.68] necessary to provide public

00:05:58.18] safety services throughout El

00:06:00.71] Paso County. And whereas the

00:06:02.78] Pikes Peak, region has

00:06:03.55] experienced significant

00:06:04.22] population growth since the

00:06:07.19] tax was first approved while

00:06:07.89] demands an emergency service

00:06:08.56] and public safety services

00:06:11.76] have also increased, making

00:06:12.83] reliable and dedicated funding

00:06:13.46] increasingly important to

00:06:15.83] maintain responsibilities.

00:06:17.97] Capabilities and service

00:06:19.97] levels. And whereas Al Paso

00:06:21.64] County board of County

00:06:22.34] Commissioners has referred to

00:06:23.57] the continuation of the

00:06:25.13] existing 0, 2, 3%, public

00:06:28.21] safety sales tax. Voters for

00:06:30.75] consideration in the NOVEMBER

00:06:31.45] 2027 election without

00:06:34.49] increasing the current tax

00:06:36.58] rate. Whereas continuing this

00:06:39.61] dedicated funding will help to

00:06:40.29] Paso County maintain essential

00:06:40.69] public safety services and

00:06:43.90] provide the stability

00:06:44.53] necessary to plan for the

00:06:46.35] needs of the growing

00:06:47.83] community. And whereas

00:06:48.47] revenues from the public

00:06:51.10] safety sales tax are

00:06:54.24] restricted to specific public

00:06:55.34] safety purposes, including law

00:06:56.13] enforcement and detention,

00:06:57.21] staffing and equipment.

00:07:01.18] Emergency communications

00:07:02.19] emergency response and

00:07:02.62] mitigation vehicles and

00:07:04.85] equipment. Wild land

00:07:05.49] firefighting in criminal

00:07:08.76] justice infrastructure. And

00:07:10.86] whereas the city of Colorado

00:07:11.59] Springs recognizes that public

00:07:15.16] safety is a shared regional

00:07:15.73] priority and that the

00:07:19.27] effective law enforcement.

00:07:20.50] Emergency response, wild land

00:07:21.94] for protection and related

00:07:22.70] services benefit. Residents

00:07:23.34] throughout the Pikes Peak

00:07:27.94] region. And whereas the City

00:07:29.50] Council recognizes and

00:07:30.18] appreciates the work of El

00:07:31.85] Paso County Board of County

00:07:33.78] commissioners, Paso County

00:07:34.79] Sheriff's Office in

00:07:35.49] maintaining and planning for

00:07:37.92] the public safety needs of our

00:07:39.99] growing region. And whereas

00:07:41.79] continued cooperation between

00:07:43.66] the city of Coral Springs, El

00:07:45.50] Paso County, the Sheriff's

00:07:46.73] office and other regional

00:07:48.33] partners is essential to

00:07:48.93] providing effective and

00:07:51.47] coordinated public safety

00:07:52.57] surfaces. Now, therefore, be

00:07:53.17] it resolved by the City

00:07:57.54] Council of Cars Springs. City

00:07:58.51] Council recognizes that city

00:08:01.85] Council expresses its support

00:08:02.48] for El Paso County's efforts

00:08:04.58] to continue the existing 0.2

00:08:07.12] 3% public safety sales tax

00:08:10.99] sales and use tax and place

00:08:11.89] its continuation before the

00:08:16.96] voters in NOVEMBER 2027. Dated

00:08:17.70] Car Springs, Colorado. This

00:08:19.43] 13th day of OCTOBER signed by

00:08:20.47] myself. The PRESIDENT City

00:08:24.94] Council in at Crow Iverson.

00:08:27.34] And now if we could have the

00:08:28.14] Sheriff, Sheriff Troy will

00:08:28.74] come up and say a few words. I

00:08:30.98] really appreciate that. It can

00:08:31.71] make sure the green buttons on

00:08:37.65] so we can hear you. Good

00:08:38.86] morning. Thank you, MADAM,

00:08:41.83] PRESIDENT.

00:08:42.89] >> council, I absolutely

00:08:43.59] appreciate that. The support

00:08:46.80] here, City Council, our

00:08:47.46] partnership throughout the

00:08:49.47] region for public safety is

00:08:51.40] incredible. We have a military

00:08:52.90] collaborative meeting every

00:08:56.11] month with our military

00:08:56.84] leaders, installations and law

00:08:58.18] enforcement throughout the

00:08:59.68] region, including Colorado

00:09:03.88] State Patrol nowhere else.

00:09:04.52] Every time we get a new

00:09:07.42] general are some of in charge.

00:09:08.76] Nowhere else have they seen

00:09:10.19] the collaboration that our

00:09:12.63] region, a community has and

00:09:13.59] public safety. And this is one

00:09:15.50] more example of that. Just

00:09:19.17] this last Sunday, police

00:09:21.54] operation center lost power

00:09:23.60] here downtown and who was

00:09:24.77] there to help pick up and

00:09:25.64] continue dispatch services and

00:09:28.88] back up. It was us. And we

00:09:29.58] know that that's been in the

00:09:32.95] news as of late. There's one

00:09:34.45] more example of where we

00:09:36.49] collaborate and the citizens

00:09:37.57] Colorado Springs have

00:09:39.59] benefited from that

00:09:40.86] collaboration where there was

00:09:43.33] no cut and services, no delays

00:09:44.31] services because we we picked

00:09:46.33] it up and where the backup for

00:09:52.70] Cspd another example of that.

00:09:52.64] Sales tax and I hate that

00:09:53.34] we're tax. Know what it is. I

00:09:55.67] wish it was called. The fund

00:09:58.51] public safety. Find because

00:09:59.64] that's what it does. It funds

00:10:06.68] 197. Of my public service

00:10:07.59] employees. So 89197 are

00:10:10.76] specific to this. 91 on with

00:10:12.19] the list by now. I do have

00:10:12.89] that high. That's something I

00:10:15.40] want to give credit to. The

00:10:16.67] suit calls springs and the

00:10:17.80] Cold Springs Police

00:10:19.60] Department. You all know you

00:10:20.30] all know how to do it. You do

00:10:22.24] it right when it comes to

00:10:24.90] substations. Pasco County

00:10:24.84] sheriff has never had a

00:10:28.11] substation like you will. And

00:10:28.78] so you spread your services

00:10:31.84] throughout your community. And

00:10:35.35] so when we had opportunity. To

00:10:36.25] build one, identify some land

00:10:39.26] out. Corporal Paso County. I

00:10:41.12] went to Chief Vazquez and ask

00:10:42.59] for help. So you guys do a

00:10:43.39] right to dispel the

00:10:46.16] substation. Another one down

00:10:47.13] south. How did you do And

00:10:50.87] we've we copied your model and

00:10:51.83] now because of the public

00:10:53.30] safety fund for the first time

00:10:54.76] in history, a Pasco County

00:10:56.54] Sheriff's have a fully

00:10:58.78] functional and operational

00:11:00.14] substation unincorporated Paso

00:11:03.68] County. It's 100% funded by

00:11:04.42] the Public Safety Fund, which

00:11:07.19] is going to increase services

00:11:10.46] to the largest growing

00:11:11.46] population in Paso County, as

00:11:12.76] well as northern eastern El

00:11:14.46] Paso County. This is a game

00:11:17.00] changer. All thanks to your

00:11:19.27] model and your dedicated

00:11:21.50] service and funding the cost

00:11:22.14] police department. We were

00:11:23.70] able to copy them and now

00:11:26.24] we're going increase services.

00:11:26.91] I will light you all to our

00:11:27.57] ribbon cutting. We plan to

00:11:30.74] have a ribbon cutting later

00:11:31.34] this year and be fully

00:11:35.78] operational in JANUARY.

00:11:36.85] >> Thank you so much. We

00:11:37.65] really appreciate you being

00:11:38.52] here this morning. This is a

00:11:40.72] very important ballot

00:11:41.82] initiative and we just urge

00:11:45.69] the residents to support that

00:11:48.56] continuation as we are

00:11:49.23] incorporated county. We are

00:11:49.93] sitting in the county as well

00:11:53.54] as the city. Yeah, it's so

00:11:54.20] help. Bring it back to the

00:11:54.94] diocese there. Any comments on

00:12:04.58] the dice? Seeing none We will

00:12:07.25] join you. Don't front for and

00:12:09.29] here is my are. Froze again. A

00:12:16.83] case COUNCILMAN I thank you,

00:12:17.50] MADAM PRESIDENT, chair for

00:12:18.16] about nice to see you here.

00:12:20.73] And I am.

00:12:22.60] >> But Kerry supportive of

00:12:23.27] ballot initiative. And I do

00:12:26.64] hope people listening will.

00:12:27.61] But yes, if they haven't voted

00:12:30.34] already of fill in that bubble

00:12:31.34] for yes. And that and I

00:12:32.17] appreciate that. You talked

00:12:36.78] about the partnership between

00:12:38.79] Colorado Springs El Paso

00:12:39.82] County. Certainly on the law

00:12:40.76] enforcement side. But it also

00:12:43.39] extends to fire as well and

00:12:46.23] would say that at some point

00:12:48.33] here in the coming Hopefully

00:12:52.10] sooner than later we need to

00:12:52.80] have a conversation about our

00:12:55.71] own public safety sales tax,

00:12:58.58] which was instituted in 2001

00:13:00.81] and has not been addressed

00:13:02.85] since And we have some

00:13:04.88] significant needs in our

00:13:07.89] public safety. But just both

00:13:08.25] fire and police. And we look

00:13:10.92] forward to the same kind of

00:13:11.22] support from the county when

00:13:14.63] we get to that point. So thank

00:13:14.99] you very much. She knew from

00:13:15.46] PRESIDENT Man.

00:13:22.97] >> COUNCILMAN Donaldson. Type

00:13:24.20] of collaboration that extends

00:13:26.90] to the jail, the sheriff's

00:13:26.94] office or no pass account. I

00:13:27.67] am responsible for the largest

00:13:29.27] deal in the state of Colorado.

00:13:30.81] >> And it's the only jail, you

00:13:37.48] know, Paso County over 50%

00:13:39.12] folks to its 15. 52 to 58% of

00:13:42.27] the people in the jail are

00:13:42.72] arrested by Colorado Springs

00:13:52.67] police officers.

00:13:53.27] >> Yeah, thanks, MADAM

00:13:56.17] PRESIDENT. Good morning,

00:13:56.84] Sheriff morning. Yeah. One

00:13:57.51] also express my support for

00:14:02.71] this. My brothers was a police

00:14:03.45] officer and another in another

00:14:08.82] state city it is support or

00:14:09.75] lack of support by the elected

00:14:13.16] officials, which finally after

00:14:15.76] 27 28 years, he finally

00:14:16.43] retired because you notice

00:14:19.46] that. And so think it's it's

00:14:20.16] good for for city council to

00:14:23.53] also expressed support on this

00:14:24.10] public safety is the

00:14:27.47] fundamental thing that

00:14:28.27] government at the municipal

00:14:30.47] level that the county level

00:14:30.61] should provide to the

00:14:31.84] citizens. We don't see that

00:14:35.38] nothing else really matters.

00:14:39.99] So. I fully support this. We

00:14:41.29] thank you for being here this

00:14:42.60] morning. And I look forward to

00:14:45.76] its passing. Council

00:14:46.49] >> Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT,

00:14:49.83] thank you for being here. I

00:14:51.93] did want to just 8 fully for

00:14:53.10] the record that while I am not

00:14:53.80] an supportive of this, I have

00:14:55.74] not yet made my final decision

00:14:56.64] on how I will be marking my

00:14:57.27] personal ballot for this

00:14:58.24] initiative. I still have some

00:15:01.54] research to do and because

00:15:02.28] this is a proclamation or does

00:15:04.15] not require a vote of the

00:15:06.42] council. So wanted to make it

00:15:07.98] clear for those listening who

00:15:08.65] are a part of district 4 to

00:15:11.15] understand that I am not quite

00:15:11.86] supportive and not quite and

00:15:17.26] supportive. We will join you

00:15:23.33] down for a picture. Thank you.

00:15:38.65] >> I'm good.

00:16:56.10] >> Moving on to item 5 be will

00:16:59.11] the clerk please read item 5,

00:17:00.17] be into the record. A

00:17:01.74] resolution recognizing OCTOBER

00:17:02.41] 2026. Is arts month in the

00:17:03.74] Pikes Peak region. COUNCILMAN

00:17:07.21] Donald said.

00:17:07.85] >> Yeah, thank you, MADAM

00:17:11.49] PRESIDENT and so I have the

00:17:14.36] privilege of reading this

00:17:15.95] resolution is resolution right

00:17:18.63] this month and Angeles SEALs

00:17:19.53] is here from copper to to

00:17:22.90] speak on it. And so I'll get

00:17:28.27] started reading it. And before

00:17:29.41] I even read it, you know, I

00:17:31.21] just want to reinforce the

00:17:32.44] Colorado Springs. It's really

00:17:35.28] a city founded in a way,

00:17:36.88] unlike other cities, most were

00:17:37.58] founded for economic reasons.

00:17:42.42] A port on ocean, a big river.

00:17:45.86] The Mississippi River.

00:17:47.99] Crossings of railroad main

00:17:50.67] railroad lines. When General

00:17:50.86] Palmer came here, when he

00:17:51.56] really notice was the beauty

00:17:54.50] of the land and felt that this

00:17:56.74] would be a perfect place for a

00:17:57.87] sea of really of culture and

00:18:02.61] art. And it would be. But new

00:18:04.24] in the Rockies or little

00:18:04.95] London. And that was his goal

00:18:07.25] at the outset. And it's still

00:18:11.90] reflected in architecture in

00:18:11.99] are and what the city has been

00:18:12.72] focused on from the beginning.

00:18:13.85] And so with that. I will read

00:18:20.16] this. A resolution recognizing

00:18:21.23] OCTOBER 2026. Is art months in

00:18:24.97] the Pikes Peak region, whereas

00:18:25.70] the months of OCTOBER has been

00:18:26.37] recognized as national Arts

00:18:28.64] and Humanities month by

00:18:31.87] thousands of arts and cultural

00:18:32.71] organizations, communities and

00:18:36.38] states across the U.S. As well

00:18:37.11] as by the White House and

00:18:40.55] Congress for over 30 years.

00:18:42.52] And for 13 years here in

00:18:44.72] Colorado Springs, whereas the

00:18:45.39] arts and humanities enhance

00:18:47.79] and enrich the lives of every

00:18:49.69] American, including those of

00:18:50.83] us living in and visiting

00:18:56.24] Colorado Springs. Our city's

00:18:58.17] founder. Well, General William

00:19:00.41] Jackson Palmer said upon the

00:19:03.28] city's founding in 18, 71

00:19:05.41] quote, My theory for this

00:19:06.31] place is that it should be

00:19:07.68] made the most attractive place

00:19:11.89] for homes in the West, a place

00:19:12.39] for schools, colleges,

00:19:16.22] literature and science first

00:19:16.79] class newspapers and

00:19:17.43] everything that the above

00:19:21.34] imply. In, quote, earning it.

00:19:24.70] The nickname of Little wanted.

00:19:26.80] And whereas cultural heritage,

00:19:28.67] creativity and innovation are

00:19:30.44] an intrinsic part of the

00:19:30.71] history of Colorado Springs

00:19:34.78] and our shared future. And

00:19:35.75] whereas the arts positively

00:19:38.52] support mental well-being

00:19:41.55] community cohesion, education,

00:19:44.19] healing economic vitality,

00:19:44.86] tourism and our quality of

00:19:48.43] life. And whereas the arts are

00:19:50.93] a proven civic engagement tool

00:19:53.36] and can bring people together

00:19:53.93] across differences in

00:19:56.17] challenging times. And whereas

00:20:00.37] the arts and culture.

00:20:01.11] For-profit and nonprofit

00:20:03.34] sectors represent an over

00:20:05.54] 1 trillion with a t trillion

00:20:10.21] dollar American industry. 4. 4

00:20:11.22] and a quarter percent of the

00:20:12.99] national gop gdp, gross

00:20:17.46] domestic product. And that's

00:20:18.63] 19.7 billion dollars in

00:20:23.63] Colorado. That supports 5.4

00:20:24.30] million American jobs. And

00:20:28.40] that's 1000. 121,228 jobs in

00:20:32.54] Colorado. Now, therefore, be

00:20:33.21] it resolved by the Colorado

00:20:36.78] Springs City Council, Colorado

00:20:37.98] Springs City Council hereby

00:20:41.22] recognizes OCTOBER. 26 2026 as

00:20:43.89] the 13th annual arts month in

00:20:46.60] Colorado Springs and calls

00:20:46.89] upon our citizens to celebrate

00:20:49.86] and value arts and culture in

00:20:52.00] Colorado Springs and to

00:20:53.93] specially specifically

00:20:54.63] encourage greater

00:20:56.60] participation by those

00:20:58.57] citizens in the local arts and

00:21:00.24] humanities and their

00:21:01.87] community. And that is dated

00:21:06.21] today in OCTOBER of 2026. And

00:21:06.81] signed by City Council,

00:21:07.41] PRESIDENT Lynette Crow,

00:21:10.62] Iverson. And with that, I'd

00:21:11.28] like to invite Angela up to

00:21:16.52] the to the microphone. Thank

00:21:17.22] you, COUNCILMAN Donelson for

00:21:18.96] your support. And I know many

00:21:19.66] of you to support Arts month.

00:21:20.36] Thank you very much. Colorado

00:21:22.60] Springs City Council.

00:21:24.56] >> For having us here today,

00:21:25.30] I'm Angela SEALs and executive

00:21:25.93] director of the Cultural

00:21:27.74] Office of the Pikes Peak

00:21:30.30] Region for the nonprofit local

00:21:32.24] arts agency for El Paso and

00:21:33.88] Teller counties. We also serve

00:21:37.16] Fremont through peak radar dot

00:21:38.91] com. We advanced the arts as a

00:21:39.62] driving force in our region's

00:21:43.32] identity and economy. And we

00:21:44.55] access to connect cultivate

00:21:47.36] and champion arts community.

00:21:50.43] Our local arts month

00:21:51.66] initiative as the proclamation

00:21:52.46] noted has been happening for

00:21:54.56] 13 years. And we've been doing

00:21:55.23] this proclamation with you

00:21:59.57] over 13, very different years

00:22:00.24] under the leadership of the

00:22:02.24] Cultural Office Arts Month

00:22:03.31] unfolds with local arts groups

00:22:06.41] in creative leaders across the

00:22:08.38] region as a coordinated

00:22:09.52] awareness advocacy and

00:22:11.92] community Engagement campaign

00:22:12.55] owner talked over dot com

00:22:15.39] residents and visitors cover

00:22:16.93] hundreds of events during the

00:22:19.39] 31 days of OCTOBER. Explore

00:22:20.33] the arts month. Bingo passport

00:22:23.70] visit Colorado Springs access

00:22:25.67] classroom resources, connect

00:22:27.77] with creative business

00:22:28.37] support. We're having a

00:22:29.74] creative business fair and a

00:22:30.50] couple weeks right here in

00:22:32.17] downtown and find more ways to

00:22:36.82] take part throughout OCTOBER,

00:22:36.78] the creative sector. When we

00:22:37.45] talk about that many people

00:22:39.18] talk to me first about

00:22:41.88] artists. Oh, yes, my sister is

00:22:43.99] an artist. They don't realize

00:22:44.72] the full breadth of creative

00:22:45.55] industries that were actually

00:22:49.95] talking about in serving 80%

00:22:49.79] of creative industries in the

00:22:51.16] Pikes Peak region are in the

00:22:53.13] city limits of Colorado

00:22:57.50] Springs. And they include so

00:22:58.23] media performing arts design

00:23:01.75] and architecture visual arts

00:23:04.14] and crafts, literary in

00:23:05.80] publishing houses and heritage

00:23:05.71] and cultural assets. The

00:23:06.98] power, thousands of jobs and

00:23:11.18] our local economy as elected

00:23:12.22] officials, you can help her

00:23:14.62] realize more of these benefits

00:23:15.32] with the policies that we not

00:23:17.76] here in Colorado Springs,

00:23:18.36] Colorado's arts Policy

00:23:21.16] Framework. Points to 4 key

00:23:23.99] areas for public officials.

00:23:26.17] And as we do arts month,

00:23:26.80] proclamations across the

00:23:27.53] region and Rittiman 8

00:23:30.67] municipalities this month.

00:23:32.74] We're sharing these for

00:23:34.47] Rickles from Colorado's arts

00:23:35.14] policy framework for all of

00:23:35.84] our elected officials to keep

00:23:39.75] in mind. Expand access to the

00:23:41.65] arts by making arts and

00:23:42.28] culture experiences more

00:23:42.88] available, visible and

00:23:45.95] accessible. Strengthen the

00:23:48.16] creative economy by investing

00:23:48.99] in the organizations,

00:23:50.63] businesses, spaces and

00:23:50.76] infrastructure that sustained

00:23:54.60] it. Help creative workers

00:23:56.93] thrive by addressing

00:23:57.60] affordability and expanding

00:23:58.27] access to professional and

00:24:00.20] business development. Into

00:24:04.24] fast and arts education and

00:24:05.18] creative career pathways by

00:24:06.74] strengthening our it's

00:24:07.41] learning in our schools and

00:24:08.82] creating opportunities for

00:24:11.68] lifelong arts. Learning. The

00:24:12.62] cultural offices programs

00:24:14.65] year-round regularly work on

00:24:15.92] all of these goals. And we

00:24:16.59] appreciate your partnership

00:24:18.69] throughout the year and that

00:24:20.36] of the creative workers,

00:24:21.64] businesses, nonprofits and or

00:24:23.16] its leaders in Colorado

00:24:26.36] Springs who are all working to

00:24:26.97] advance a vision of a

00:24:29.73] community united by creativity

00:24:31.70] during arts month. And all of

00:24:33.77] the 11 other months of the

00:24:36.81] year. This OCTOBER arts month

00:24:37.38] invites residents and visitors

00:24:38.14] across El Paso and Teller

00:24:39.25] counties to experience the

00:24:41.41] region's creativity in real

00:24:43.21] time. Real art made for the

00:24:44.79] moment is this year's

00:24:45.49] campaign. Thank you for your

00:24:49.86] support. Thank you. I'll bring

00:24:53.50] it back to the Dias COUNCILMAN

00:24:54.16] Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT.

00:24:54.83] Angela, thank you for being

00:24:56.33] here. I'm so grateful for

00:24:58.72] Copper. I'm gonna take this

00:25:00.84] opportunity to

00:25:02.14] >> Say to folks who are here,

00:25:03.87] who MAY not realize, you know,

00:25:06.68] many cities and many

00:25:07.38] governments actually fund the

00:25:10.61] arts to their general fund and

00:25:12.65] have positions and plus the

00:25:14.28] arts. That's not Colorado

00:25:14.95] Springs. That's not who we

00:25:19.56] are, how we do it. However,

00:25:20.86] copper does receive some of

00:25:21.76] our large funds, which is the

00:25:24.20] lodging, auto and rental tax

00:25:24.93] to support their work. But the

00:25:28.20] majority of their funds are

00:25:28.77] through donations and

00:25:30.40] foundations. And I mean, you

00:25:31.75] could speak specifically to

00:25:34.71] the percentages of of things,

00:25:37.24] Angela, but I just want to

00:25:39.31] highlight that. I believe

00:25:40.41] everybody in some way, shape

00:25:42.72] or form is benefit on a daily

00:25:46.32] basis by culture and arts in

00:25:47.55] your life. The it an art piece

00:25:49.56] of art hanging on your wall or

00:25:52.46] music that you listen to or,

00:25:53.65] for example, I'm gonna

00:25:57.47] highlight on NOVEMBER 4 15th

00:25:59.47] at Colorado College. The Yu's

00:26:01.44] documentary academy that not

00:26:03.57] only teaches students how to

00:26:05.91] produce and create documentary

00:26:08.71] films, but their shared in our

00:26:11.21] high schools and they promote

00:26:11.88] incredible an advance meant

00:26:15.99] the mental health of our And

00:26:18.22] so the arts has impact across

00:26:20.56] all aspects of humanity and

00:26:23.53] society and our city. And so

00:26:26.43] I'm really grateful that we as

00:26:28.70] a city council continue to 2

00:26:30.90] for this resolution in

00:26:32.74] recognition, the importance of

00:26:33.91] the arts. And thank you,

00:26:34.91] Angela, for you and for copper

00:26:35.77] in the work that you do. And

00:26:39.71] it's what your anniversary is

00:26:40.55] it like are 20th this year?

00:26:41.21] Yes year. Congratulations.

00:26:44.28] Thank you. Thank you.

00:26:45.22] >> COUNCILMAN Gold. Thank you.

00:26:46.42] MADAM PRESIDENT,

00:26:47.59] congratulations on 20 years.

00:26:48.22] Thank you. Councilmember

00:26:49.36] Donaldson for bringing

00:26:51.83] proclamation or resolution

00:26:54.80] forward. It's arts month and,

00:26:55.73] you know, I think right now

00:26:57.16] when we're facing such

00:26:57.87] challenges and mental health

00:27:00.10] as a nation and as a city, we

00:27:02.44] need arts more than ever.

00:27:03.14] Because Smart Express emotion

00:27:04.74] when words fail U.S. And can

00:27:08.21] heal us in so many ways. And I

00:27:08.84] love going to peak radar

00:27:10.88] because no matter what your

00:27:12.98] interest is, you can find it.

00:27:15.82] Fact, earlier this month, I

00:27:16.52] celebrate arts month by going

00:27:20.82] to 90's, hip-hop on strings,

00:27:21.52] candlelight performance. You

00:27:22.22] know who knew the in Colorado

00:27:24.43] Springs be able to be

00:27:27.63] serenaded by a string quartet

00:27:32.30] at a church to the sounds of

00:27:33.90] Biggie will Tang and MISTER.

00:27:33.70] It was delightful and it was

00:27:35.34] just a perfect way to end my

00:27:36.34] week. So and it even, you

00:27:40.21] know, in our murals and some

00:27:41.48] questions posed downtown.

00:27:43.32] Think one of my favorite is

00:27:46.12] the mural that says where cry,

00:27:46.82] tears flow. And every time I

00:27:47.52] cycle past it, it just makes

00:27:51.62] me a little reflective of

00:27:53.19] where do cry? Tears flow. How

00:27:53.86] do you hold Hold that pain.

00:27:54.73] And sometimes Choi that comes

00:27:57.40] with crying. So thank you for

00:27:59.40] the work that you do it. It

00:28:01.23] makes us better people. And

00:28:01.97] thank you again, councilmember

00:28:02.67] Donaldson for bringing us for

00:28:06.27] this month. COUNCILMAN

00:28:06.64] Donelson.

00:28:09.11] >> Yeah, things get MADAM

00:28:10.82] PRESIDENT. You might be

00:28:11.55] interesting for the citizens

00:28:12.28] here today and those who watch

00:28:15.25] this online to know that, you

00:28:17.22] know, 1, one council person

00:28:18.39] can't bring a resolution to be

00:28:22.26] voted on. It takes at least 5

00:28:24.26] to say, ok, one MAY have the

00:28:24.99] idea, but then it goes out and

00:28:26.36] has to be the support.

00:28:27.26] Sometimes things don't get the

00:28:31.40] support. So. You know, I I

00:28:33.27] agree with what was just said

00:28:34.37] about, you it's it's very

00:28:35.54] good. That council continued

00:28:39.94] to this 13 year tradition now

00:28:44.92] of having this resolution. And

00:28:45.95] from again from the founding

00:28:49.65] Colorado Springs and our

00:28:51.12] founding father wanted

00:28:53.13] Colorado Springs to be a place

00:28:55.29] of culture and art and that's

00:28:55.99] reflected in the architecture

00:28:58.87] which we have downtown. When I

00:28:59.53] was in Huntsville, not long

00:29:00.33] ago, just a few days ago, the

00:29:05.51] mayor there said he. You know,

00:29:06.67] he just was jealous in a way

00:29:09.18] when he came here. Our

00:29:13.88] downtown is. Bluntly Superior

00:29:14.58] to there's an architecture in

00:29:17.95] the beauty of it. So they have

00:29:18.59] to compete with different

00:29:20.66] things, which is a Redstone

00:29:22.95] arsenal. But we have other

00:29:22.69] things which are in our

00:29:24.64] history, right from really

00:29:27.53] from not day one. But but very

00:29:29.17] early on. And part of that is

00:29:29.90] the architecture and our parks

00:29:32.74] that are part of this. The

00:29:35.61] statues that we have downtown

00:29:36.41] and then other forms of are

00:29:41.15] painting other things. Winston

00:29:41.71] Churchill said we former

00:29:43.71] buildings and then they for

00:29:45.92] months. And so what we have

00:29:47.48] around us that we see this

00:29:49.49] room either gives you a sense

00:29:53.16] of beauty and makes you makes

00:29:55.29] you calm happy or it can give

00:29:56.46] you a sense you can be. Like

00:29:57.13] the brutalist architecture

00:29:59.37] words more. Aggressive,

00:30:04.30] largest. You know, a

00:30:05.90] dehumanizing. So we've got we

00:30:08.17] should choose wisely. We can't

00:30:08.88] forget this can't become just

00:30:11.75] an economic trade zone. And so

00:30:13.78] I thank you very much, Angela,

00:30:15.22] for for being here today. And

00:30:16.18] for what you and organization

00:30:20.32] do. Thank you.

00:30:21.59] >> Have a motion from

00:30:21.72] COUNCILMAN Golden. A second

00:30:31.27] from COUNCILMAN Let's that.

00:30:33.40] >> The motion passes 9 to If

00:30:34.87] you'll join us down

00:30:35.47] friendship, Angela, for

00:30:44.75] picture, thank you. And just

00:31:00.30] make sure no have.

00:32:17.54] >> Moving on to item 5, see,

00:32:17.75] will the clerk please read

00:32:22.96] item 5, see into the record?

00:32:23.59] >> Resolution recognizing

00:32:24.36] OCTOBER 20 26 is national.

00:32:26.56] Cyber awareness month.

00:32:28.96] COUNCILMAN Williams. Thank

00:32:32.90] you. PRESIDENT Yes, thank you

00:32:36.30] all for being here today.

00:32:37.90] Operating a resolution

00:32:39.94] recognizing OCTOBER 2020 sinks

00:32:40.61] as national Cyber Security

00:32:44.35] Awareness Month. Whereas we

00:32:46.15] recognize the vital role that

00:32:47.54] technology has in our daily

00:32:48.99] lives and the future of our

00:32:52.29] nation. Today, many citizens,

00:32:53.27] schools, libraries, businesses

00:32:56.23] and other organizations. Use

00:32:57.29] the Internet for variety of

00:32:59.30] tasks, including keeping in

00:33:00.16] contact family and friends,

00:33:04.73] managing personal finances,

00:33:05.27] performing research, enhancing

00:33:08.11] education and conducting

00:33:08.81] business and whereas critical

00:33:09.51] infrastructure sectors are

00:33:11.61] increasingly reliant on

00:33:13.55] information systems to support

00:33:15.38] financial services, energy,

00:33:17.82] telecommunications,

00:33:18.48] transportation, utilities,

00:33:19.90] health care, emergency

00:33:22.52] response systems. As the use

00:33:23.99] of the Internet at the primary

00:33:24.89] and secondary school level. As

00:33:27.99] in the city of Colorado

00:33:29.34] Springs and Han says the

00:33:29.86] education of youth by

00:33:30.93] providing them access to

00:33:31.53] online educational and

00:33:34.37] research materials.

00:33:34.97] Institutions of higher

00:33:38.84] education. The use of

00:33:39.84] information technology is

00:33:41.78] integral to teaching and

00:33:43.48] learning research and outreach

00:33:47.38] and services. And whereas

00:33:47.98] Internet users and our

00:33:48.65] information infrastructure

00:33:49.35] faces an increasing threat of

00:33:52.32] malicious cyber attacks and

00:33:53.59] significant financial and

00:33:54.52] personal privacy losses due to

00:33:58.93] identity theft and Try. And

00:34:00.23] whereas the United States

00:34:00.93] Department of Homeland

00:34:03.40] Security has established the

00:34:03.90] office of Cyber Security and

00:34:04.57] Communications and devoted

00:34:07.67] resources within it solely to

00:34:08.37] support the strengthening and

00:34:10.67] security of the country. Cyber

00:34:12.41] infrastructure at the state,

00:34:15.58] local, tribal and territorial

00:34:16.78] levels, whereas the stop thank

00:34:19.82] connect campaign as a national

00:34:22.62] effort coordinated by a

00:34:23.19] coalition of private

00:34:23.82] companies, nonprofits and

00:34:24.49] government organizations to

00:34:25.42] raise awareness about

00:34:27.36] cybersecurity among all

00:34:28.99] citizens, helping them to stay

00:34:31.56] safer and more secure online.

00:34:32.23] And whereas the multistate

00:34:34.37] information sharing and

00:34:35.67] analysis Center Division of

00:34:37.87] the nonprofit Center for

00:34:39.57] Internet Security provides a

00:34:40.67] collaborative mechanism to

00:34:42.81] help state local, territorial

00:34:44.68] and tribal governments

00:34:46.58] enhanced cybersecurity and the

00:34:48.65] city's information technology

00:34:49.78] Department. Cybersecurity

00:34:50.42] provides a comprehensive

00:34:51.12] approach to help enhance the

00:34:54.66] security of the city. And

00:34:55.26] whereas maintaining the

00:34:57.66] security of cyberspace is a

00:34:58.29] shared responsibility and

00:35:00.67] which each of us has a

00:35:00.80] critical role and awareness of

00:35:03.33] computer security essentials,

00:35:04.57] we'll improve the security of

00:35:07.20] the city information,

00:35:07.87] infrastructure and economy.

00:35:08.44] And whereas the U.S.

00:35:09.74] Department of Homeland

00:35:10.47] Security, the multistate

00:35:12.38] information sharing and

00:35:14.65] analysis center, the National

00:35:16.21] Association of State Chief

00:35:16.91] Information officers and the

00:35:18.88] National Cyber Security

00:35:21.19] Alliance have declared OCTOBER

00:35:23.59] as National Cybersecurity

00:35:24.12] Awareness Month now,

00:35:25.89] therefore, be it resolved by

00:35:26.59] the City Council of the City

00:35:30.00] of Colorado Springs dated at

00:35:32.90] Colorado Springs, Colorado.

00:35:34.73] This 13th Day of OCTOBER 2026.

00:35:35.47] Signed by council PRESIDENT On

00:35:37.64] that. Crowe, Iverson. And I

00:35:40.44] know we have a couple of it.

00:35:47.62] Staff, Cher, Dusty,

00:35:48.68] >> Good morning. Members of

00:35:49.72] council. Thank you. I like to

00:35:50.65] take an opportunity to say

00:35:52.59] thank you for supporting our

00:35:53.25] continued effort to have a

00:35:54.56] focus in OCTOBER for

00:35:55.62] cybersecurity. We've been

00:35:58.49] doing this for about 7 years

00:35:59.13] now. You've surely great

00:35:59.83] leadership and support for us

00:36:01.10] every year in focusing on why

00:36:01.73] we need to be cyber aware

00:36:03.80] throughout the year. The

00:36:06.50] technology that we choose use

00:36:08.67] working home continues to

00:36:10.47] advance. But with that

00:36:11.14] advancement, we all have to

00:36:12.18] make sure that we're focused

00:36:12.84] on making sure that what we

00:36:15.31] choose to use is updated and

00:36:16.71] patched and secure so that we

00:36:17.65] can continue to be a

00:36:18.65] productive member of a our

00:36:24.42] community. Are sometimes are

00:36:28.98] people get fearful a

00:36:28.99] cybersecurity. It's a big

00:36:30.36] words of concepts that for

00:36:31.36] everything that all of us do,

00:36:32.90] we can do 3 simple things to

00:36:33.57] make sure that we see cyber

00:36:36.60] safe throughout the year. You

00:36:36.70] don't have to be a technical

00:36:38.70] expert to get that done. So I

00:36:39.41] just like to remind everybody

00:36:42.78] what that work. And at home

00:36:43.44] stop thinking verify before

00:36:44.95] you click on any link in an

00:36:48.19] e-mail or a text message, lot

00:36:50.45] of us are rushing and we're

00:36:51.18] multitasking. And so it's very

00:36:52.29] easy for us. The quick those

00:36:53.25] attachments. So we just

00:36:54.92] everybody something can

00:36:59.29] verify. Use past freezes.

00:36:59.89] Password managers with

00:37:00.60] multi-factor authentication.

00:37:01.96] Every chance you can. Use the

00:37:03.93] technology to help you stay

00:37:06.13] secure. And then like in the

00:37:07.27] beginning, just make sure that

00:37:08.80] the technology that you choose

00:37:11.41] to use it both work and home

00:37:15.14] that you make sure that it is

00:37:16.28] patched. Update our updated a

00:37:17.98] lot of cyber threats that are

00:37:19.87] successful are using that

00:37:20.22] technology that we use that we

00:37:21.52] just simply don't keep updated

00:37:25.16] with current ashes. I

00:37:25.82] encourage everybody to make

00:37:27.96] sure that cyber security a top

00:37:27.83] that. There discussing at work

00:37:30.66] and at home, I think take the

00:37:31.30] things that we share is a

00:37:34.27] cyber security team in our

00:37:35.71] training every month

00:37:35.80] throughout the year. Take that

00:37:37.94] home and share with friends

00:37:39.20] and family. Several security

00:37:40.44] tends to not be one of the

00:37:41.24] things that we talk about

00:37:41.94] because it's just supposed to

00:37:47.17] be there working. Like again.

00:37:47.68] Thank you for supporting us

00:37:50.22] over the years. Thank you for

00:37:51.79] your leadership to help us

00:37:52.49] protect sitting. Keep us ever

00:37:56.86] say that. I have

00:37:57.92] >> Thank I'd like to invite

00:38:03.56] DR. Sean p PRESIDENT And chief

00:38:04.23] security officer osecurity

00:38:04.60] services

00:38:05.20] >> Expand upon how this

00:38:05.73] impacts us locally.

00:38:18.19] >> World Vine.

00:38:20.22] >> So earlier this the mayor's

00:38:22.15] office was represented by MR.

00:38:23.79] Williams for our annual Cyber.

00:38:24.45] See our first of an annual

00:38:25.93] event. The Cybersecurity

00:38:26.49] Awareness Community Day where

00:38:29.59] we pulled in community

00:38:31.60] partners continuing initiative

00:38:32.50] locally here in the city from

00:38:35.43] the city Council to support

00:38:37.17] cybersecurity awareness in the

00:38:39.94] initiatives are very

00:38:41.57] important. Members of City

00:38:42.44] Council's guess citizens of

00:38:43.14] Colorado Springs. I'm honored

00:38:44.78] to speak today in the strong

00:38:46.55] support of the City Council's

00:38:50.92] resolution. Does that

00:38:51.75] designating October

00:38:52.68] Cybersecurity Awareness Month

00:38:54.24] for the city of Colorado

00:38:55.66] Springs as an industry

00:38:56.86] professional with years of

00:38:57.72] experience traveling around

00:38:58.32] the globe, performing

00:39:00.65] assessments on national

00:39:02.86] critical infrastructure. I

00:39:04.30] understand firsthand that our

00:39:05.73] adversaries are actively

00:39:06.37] targeting federal, state,

00:39:07.73] tribal and local governments

00:39:10.44] on a daily basis for nearly a

00:39:11.44] decade. Murray Security

00:39:13.24] services has had the privilege

00:39:13.91] of providing cybersecurity

00:39:15.28] training and services to

00:39:17.38] Colorado Springs working

00:39:18.18] directly alongside the city's

00:39:20.32] dedicated it and cybersecurity

00:39:22.59] teams. I understand deeply how

00:39:24.52] relentlessly committed these

00:39:25.79] professionals are to defending

00:39:26.46] our community against cyber

00:39:30.93] threats. Resolution is far

00:39:32.93] more than a ceremonial

00:39:33.90] gesture. Its vital statement

00:39:35.90] to the citizens of Colorado

00:39:38.74] Springs that and local sheet

00:39:39.84] leadership that local

00:39:40.67] leadership is fully dedicated

00:39:42.64] to safeguarding their personal

00:39:44.28] information and protecting the

00:39:44.88] critical infrastructure

00:39:45.51] required to keep our city

00:39:48.85] running safely. Every single

00:39:50.88] day. I commend the city

00:39:53.65] Council and our it in

00:39:54.75] cybersecurity teams for your

00:39:55.92] visionary leadership,

00:39:56.56] unwavering dedication to

00:39:57.19] ensuring Colorado Springs

00:39:59.96] stands prepared, resilient and

00:40:01.96] ready to meet today's evolving

00:40:02.66] cyber threats. Thank you for

00:40:06.10] your time. Okay. Back to the

00:40:07.33] dyes screening comments. Just

00:40:07.67] a few.

00:40:13.54] >> Present comment. For those

00:40:14.88] of us you are in the corporate

00:40:15.58] world. We have our trainings

00:40:19.35] that come. Monthly weekly as

00:40:22.28] often as possible. And I know

00:40:23.12] they're really annoying, but

00:40:26.59] they've nice and short and

00:40:26.69] sweet. And unfortunately,

00:40:29.86] they're very necessary.

00:40:30.93] >> The problem is it doesn't

00:40:32.40] come across, as you know. Hey,

00:40:33.34] we're here to steal your

00:40:36.23] information. That's you know,

00:40:37.27] there's something wrong with

00:40:38.60] your children there. Something

00:40:40.20] wrong with your grandchildren.

00:40:40.90] Think something is happening.

00:40:44.38] Unfortunately gets people into

00:40:45.47] a fear of mine sent and of

00:40:45.74] course, their first reaction

00:40:48.71] is I need to do something and

00:40:49.38] whatever that something is

00:40:51.48] generally runs the top 2, not

00:40:52.15] something good happening on

00:40:55.85] the back in. I was like it's

00:40:56.56] an apparent says and I don't

00:40:58.49] know people that happen. Been

00:41:00.59] hacked and had these problems

00:41:01.76] and had some cases unwind

00:41:03.20] their entire lives. So thank

00:41:06.30] you for what you guys do.

00:41:06.67] Thank you for what happens.

00:41:09.67] You know. Cars be televisions

00:41:12.31] like Travis, but I know

00:41:13.31] they're doing their best to

00:41:14.67] make sure to keep everything

00:41:15.88] safe and keep up the good

00:41:17.78] work. We appreciate it. Thank

00:41:22.92] you. COUNCILMAN, rainy.

00:41:24.90] >> Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT

00:41:25.69] once again, thank you for this

00:41:26.42] proclamation and thank you all

00:41:29.56] for what you do. Any

00:41:30.69] cybersecurity I think quite

00:41:33.93] often in today's society, kind

00:41:36.60] of very passive and in the

00:41:38.23] world that we're living in.

00:41:40.17] But in the digital footprint

00:41:44.45] from the economy, financial

00:41:46.91] banking to defense industry,

00:41:47.38] to governance.

00:41:51.20] >> It is all tied in the

00:41:51.68] cybersecurity. That is the

00:41:54.28] world that we live in. And I

00:41:54.99] think sometimes we treated as

00:41:59.62] a very passive activity, sadly

00:42:01.73] enough. I mean, good. But

00:42:02.39] sadly enough and the world

00:42:04.80] that I live in from job

00:42:07.10] perspective. I get to see the

00:42:08.17] worst of the So it's not just

00:42:11.75] foreign threats but also

00:42:12.31] domestic. So it is very

00:42:13.27] important that we take the

00:42:17.28] stand stream. Serious. When

00:42:19.18] you start looking at not just

00:42:19.85] your typical ransomware or

00:42:20.98] malware are phishing attempts

00:42:24.79] for everyone to take care of

00:42:25.42] their cyber networks and

00:42:26.58] making sure that they're

00:42:26.72] protecting their passwords.

00:42:27.72] And so fort. But it goes

00:42:32.32] deeper than that way deeper

00:42:34.23] than that. And I think too

00:42:37.97] often we take it for granted.

00:42:40.17] So I think recognizing this

00:42:41.90] month for Cybersecurity

00:42:43.77] awareness Month, it's just

00:42:45.14] another opportunity for us to

00:42:47.24] reinforce that we are living

00:42:47.88] in a different age. We're

00:42:48.68] living in a digital age where

00:42:50.45] your information is out there.

00:42:54.42] It needs to be protected, but

00:42:56.42] it takes everyone to make sure

00:42:57.92] that they're doing all the

00:42:58.32] right things not to protect

00:42:59.86] your information, but also

00:43:02.98] that of your business is your

00:43:03.33] employers governance. As I

00:43:05.30] mentioned before as a whole.

00:43:06.83] So once again, thank you for

00:43:07.53] what you do and thank you for

00:43:11.70] this resolution.

00:43:12.47] >> Have a motion from

00:43:13.14] COUNCILMAN Golden, a second

00:43:13.84] from COUNCILMAN. Remy, let's

00:43:23.68] vote. The motion passes 9 to

00:43:24.35] 0. He just missed They will

00:43:39.30] come down and take a picture.

00:44:56.85] Moving on to item 5 d will the

00:44:59.39] clerk please read item 5 d

00:45:00.94] into the record city council

00:45:00.82] payments to boards commissions

00:45:05.56] and committees. First up, we

00:45:07.83] have the Downtown Review

00:45:09.71] board. 3 vacancies occurred on

00:45:09.73] a downtown review 2 members

00:45:11.67] completing their term.

00:45:12.64] >> 2 nominations for the

00:45:13.27] downtown Partnership and

00:45:15.67] Planning Commission reviewed

00:45:16.54] by council liaison Brandi

00:45:19.41] Williams on OCTOBER. 1st,

00:45:20.16] Councilmember Williams

00:45:21.71] interview the applicant for

00:45:24.88] downtown based zone property

00:45:26.82] owner seat Katie. Is

00:45:28.92] recommended for appointment as

00:45:28.69] a voting member for the

00:45:31.66] downtown Partnership board

00:45:33.13] member seat. Jennifer Cecil is

00:45:33.66] recommended for the

00:45:34.39] appointment as a voting member

00:45:35.50] of the Planning Commission,

00:45:39.20] Liaison c and Jeremy share

00:45:41.30] Cher Feet is recommended for

00:45:41.97] the appointment is a voting

00:45:42.67] member for the downtown based

00:45:45.47] property owner seat COUNCILMAN

00:45:46.11] Williams. Do you have any

00:45:49.81] comments?

00:45:52.85] >> Very excited that they're

00:45:52.78] all willing to volunteer. And

00:45:53.45] I highly recommend all 3 of

00:45:55.65] them. Thank you. I think we

00:45:58.52] might have one or 2 here. Yes.

00:46:02.29] Thank you for being here.

00:46:05.43] Moving on to the Lodgers, an

00:46:06.30] automobile.

00:46:07.40] >> Rental text Alert. Citizen

00:46:09.17] Advisory Committee. A vacancy

00:46:09.73] occurred on the large

00:46:10.37] committee due to a member

00:46:12.70] completing their term on

00:46:16.44] SEPTEMBER 14th and SEPTEMBER.

00:46:17.74] 24th Councilmember and myself,

00:46:18.28] the deputy council

00:46:19.94] administrator interviewed

00:46:21.25] applicants Jim level is

00:46:21.98] recommended for appointment as

00:46:23.21] a citizen at large voting

00:46:24.25] member COUNCILMAN Hinge. And

00:46:27.12] you have any comments.

00:46:28.91] >> Yes, thank you, MADAM

00:46:28.89] PRESIDENT and Jim is here and

00:46:32.62] really appreciate it.

00:46:34.96] Outstanding candidate. We had

00:46:36.33] a actually pool of candidates

00:46:39.43] to choose from. But gym looks

00:46:40.13] for the city works at the

00:46:44.14] airport has a great story and

00:46:45.57] I think will bring really

00:46:46.17] important things to the

00:46:47.21] Committee. Thank you, Jim. I

00:46:51.85] concur.

00:46:52.78] >> And a committee a vacancy

00:46:53.35] occurred on the audit

00:46:54.52] committee due to an alternate

00:46:56.85] member being e elevated to

00:46:58.58] remote voting member and on

00:46:59.65] SEPTEMBER. 28 and OCTOBER

00:47:00.32] second, Councilmember Dave

00:47:02.89] Donelson and myself, the city

00:47:03.56] auditor, an assistant city

00:47:06.76] editor interviewed applicants.

00:47:07.33] Lee sent our Wolf is

00:47:09.43] recommended for the

00:47:10.10] appointment as an alternate

00:47:10.77] member council. Donald said

00:47:14.94] you have any comments.

00:47:16.31] >> Oh, sure, MADAM PRESIDENT.

00:47:17.24] All have a few comments. I

00:47:17.91] don't see. Lisa in here is,

00:47:22.84] you know, I do, not here, but

00:47:22.78] is a former city COUNCILWOMAN

00:47:29.35] From. More than 20 years ago.

00:47:29.69] County?

00:47:30.35] >> 1990, not 90 years ago.

00:47:34.63] Now.

00:47:35.33] >> So yeah, from 1990. So she

00:47:39.16] had quite a knowledge of ways

00:47:40.37] to compare things that we do

00:47:41.53] now to how it was done, then

00:47:44.10] we feel like that could be

00:47:44.84] useful on the audit committee.

00:47:48.81] Just. You know, historical

00:47:49.61] knowledge is usually valuable.

00:47:51.38] Somebody you seen for a while.

00:47:53.41] So we look forward to having

00:47:54.98] her on there. That was kind of

00:47:59.62] a unanimous agreement. We did

00:48:02.26] have other good candidates.

00:48:02.92] Also saw just say this for

00:48:03.56] everybody here and those

00:48:06.30] listening. If you've applied

00:48:06.93] but haven't selected, it

00:48:07.66] doesn't mean you're not a good

00:48:11.71] applicant just sometimes we

00:48:12.97] get multiple really good

00:48:13.74] applicants. We have to settle

00:48:14.47] on one. And so I encourage you

00:48:16.87] to play again. So thank you,

00:48:18.41] MADAM PRESIDENT.

00:48:19.11] >> COUNCILMAN Tension, thank

00:48:22.83] you. MADAM PRESIDENT. I want

00:48:24.52] to backlick just one if I

00:48:28.49] could come back to MR. Level.

00:48:30.62] Given that it's arts month and

00:48:32.59] he's here and this is a little

00:48:33.22] unusual. But would you be

00:48:35.29] willing stand up and speak

00:48:36.19] very briefly about the arts

00:48:38.10] exhibit at the airport as it

00:48:45.75] relates to alert and

00:48:46.31] >> good morning council

00:48:47.27] members and attendees

00:48:49.18] opportunity this is to have

00:48:49.84] art, its ios representative

00:48:51.94] right there in our terminal.

00:48:52.68] We really appreciate partners,

00:48:55.95] some of whom were here earlier

00:48:56.62] having that opportunity to

00:48:57.35] showcase the talent we have in

00:48:59.15] the Pikes Peak region. You

00:48:59.85] know, when people come in, if

00:49:00.79] they're visiting, that's one

00:49:01.89] of the first places they see

00:49:03.59] our region. And that's a great

00:49:05.49] opportunity. And also for the

00:49:06.23] people that they call home, he

00:49:07.46] called home here an

00:49:08.20] opportunity to see the arts in

00:49:11.60] the way out. So we appreciate

00:49:13.64] the economic benefit we have

00:49:14.77] with the airport in our

00:49:15.47] hearts. We also appreciatehe

00:49:16.84] opportunity to showcase the

00:49:17.47] parts of our region, the

00:49:18.17] cultural heritage that we're

00:49:19.61] so appreciative for. Thank

00:49:25.55] you. Thank you.

00:49:26.22] >> Moving on to the Stetson

00:49:28.23] Hills, special improvement

00:49:28.62] Maintenance District. A

00:49:29.22] vacancy occurred on the

00:49:35.59] Stetson Hills. S amd Advisory

00:49:36.29] to remember completing their

00:49:37.10] term on OCTOBER. 5th member

00:49:39.26] Kate can Casey interviewed the

00:49:41.40] applicant? Matthew Simpson is

00:49:41.73] recommended for appointment as

00:49:44.30] a voting member council

00:49:45.94] member. Casey do have any

00:49:47.97] comments.

00:49:48.67] >> Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT

00:49:50.14] decided to speak with Matthew

00:49:50.88] Sims and that they could be a

00:49:51.98] great addition to the Stetson

00:49:52.65] Hills, Special Improvement

00:49:58.28] District Advisory Board.

00:49:59.39] >> I have a motion from

00:50:00.95] COUNCILMAN Golden, the second

00:50:01.69] from COUNCILMAN Rainy. If

00:50:02.29] there are no additional

00:50:10.67] comments, let's vote.

00:50:14.57] >> motion passes 9 to 0.

00:50:17.24] >> Moving on to item 6 mayors,

00:50:17.97] business chief of staff. Their

00:50:20.38] team airs

00:50:23.65] >> Yes, thank MADAM PRESIDENT,

00:50:25.78] just number exciting things

00:50:28.22] going on today out the

00:50:28.68] neighborhood of a couple of

00:50:29.35] our council members there.

00:50:32.36] Bridge girders. Going forward

00:50:35.49] with the powers find course

00:50:36.23] club drive process. And so

00:50:40.90] this is a voter approved. Road

00:50:43.50] project to extend Powers

00:50:44.17] Boulevard to connect it to

00:50:45.34] I-25 on the side, this was

00:50:46.75] approved by the voters with 79

00:50:46.70] and a half percent of the

00:50:49.64] vote. We're excited to

00:50:52.21] continue that progress.

00:50:55.31] There's a media availability

00:50:57.35] today to see the girders for

00:50:58.15] those. I I'm more excited

00:50:59.49] about seeing the actual road

00:51:00.49] with that takes place. But it

00:51:01.65] is an important step because

00:51:06.66] you must build a bridge first.

00:51:08.70] For those who want to be

00:51:11.63] involved in rich worker

00:51:12.87] roadwork rather than our sun

00:51:13.57] of data show rats are taking

00:51:17.67] place next week. On Wednesday,

00:51:20.13] Thursday, Friday evenings and

00:51:23.21] Saturday. And so as we look

00:51:25.51] forward to the redesign of the

00:51:27.12] north that area, which

00:51:28.22] important entry wage or city,

00:51:31.39] particularly uccs area. That

00:51:35.96] on the sports as a proud

00:51:36.99] father in law of a dentist to

00:51:38.46] peek best of the breakfast of

00:51:41.90] champions. Proceeds hour.

00:51:42.63] Exciting budget meeting that I

00:51:45.17] know everyone will want to.

00:51:46.40] Have a good breakfast

00:51:52.58] beforehand and be inspired.

00:51:53.31] Athletes next week because the

00:51:54.17] Sports Corp Hall of Fame and

00:51:57.45] then finally. We look forward

00:51:59.25] to seeing many of you at the

00:52:01.22] state of the presentation on

00:52:02.92] Friday morning. So those are a

00:52:02.99] few things going Thank you,

00:52:05.26] Matt.

00:52:05.93] >> COUNCILMAN Engine. Yes,

00:52:08.83] thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT,

00:52:09.46] thank you, Wayne, for for

00:52:10.20] those updates. I was wondering

00:52:12.80] if you could say a little bit

00:52:14.97] more and if not you, even

00:52:16.80] perhaps the council PRESIDENT

00:52:18.94] About the North Nevada

00:52:21.24] Charette I I I will be

00:52:22.48] attending and excuse me the

00:52:24.83] Wednesday Thursday, Friday,

00:52:25.28] myself. I'm not sure I'm gonna

00:52:26.41] make the set final Saturday.

00:52:30.12] One, but it is actually not

00:52:33.15] open to the public yet at this

00:52:35.16] point. I and I think it

00:52:36.13] deserves for those who don't

00:52:37.19] know what that even a sure bet

00:52:39.63] is just hearing a little bit

00:52:43.30] more about that process and

00:52:44.43] the development of that

00:52:45.43] quarter. And I I mentioned the

00:52:46.27] PRESIDENT As well because I

00:52:47.87] know she's been very active in

00:52:48.57] that. So but I would love to

00:52:51.11] hear a little bit more for the

00:52:52.98] public sake.

00:52:53.91] >> Thanks. I'm happy put MADAM

00:52:56.81] PRESIDENT. If you want to say

00:52:57.78] anything first.

00:52:58.68] >> Absolutely. We're just

00:53:00.75] doing city building a little

00:53:01.92] bit different. It's been done

00:53:03.12] in the past instance, this

00:53:06.49] city to the funds of pp rta

00:53:07.66] hired a engineer team to work

00:53:10.13] on the entire corridor.

00:53:11.80] >> And other areas related to

00:53:17.27] the corridor. We felt it.

00:53:17.94] Opportunity to add a design

00:53:24.65] team. Park attacks. And design

00:53:27.11] team to that to piggyback on

00:53:29.72] the engineer team. And so. As

00:53:31.85] you saw with the you lie

00:53:35.52] steady a year ago and a lot

00:53:36.79] community 100 community

00:53:40.73] leaders and partners and

00:53:41.33] nonprofits.

00:53:41.93] >> Police fire all were

00:53:47.47] invited To interview session

00:53:48.87] so they could understand what

00:53:51.51] was important. That was.

00:53:53.68] >> Developers that was real

00:53:55.45] estate, every walk of life in

00:53:56.11] the city. This is just the

00:53:59.52] next step from that where the

00:54:01.90] same people will be invited to

00:54:03.65] go through this year at help

00:54:07.33] with the design. The North

00:54:08.30] that a corridor is to how it

00:54:13.43] would look. It's just a

00:54:14.17] different way of doing

00:54:14.83] building chief of staff to

00:54:19.57] have anything to add.

00:54:20.27] >> I guess I just because for

00:54:22.58] most of us might be a were not

00:54:23.51] familiar with. So it is an

00:54:25.45] intensive focus. Design

00:54:27.78] workshop to develop a master

00:54:28.45] plan for the north about a

00:54:29.18] foundry project, which is what

00:54:32.65] we're calling that based on

00:54:33.19] significant date in

00:54:35.46] stakeholder input. And so the

00:54:36.19] stakeholders involved property

00:54:39.49] owners in the area uccs. And

00:54:40.20] others that are part of that.

00:54:43.63] Ultimately it will go through.

00:54:44.50] It's an extensive public

00:54:45.23] processes, the beginning of it

00:54:47.90] working with stakeholders, but

00:54:48.77] it will go forward as well. So

00:54:49.74] thank you for your

00:54:53.98] participation. MADAM.

00:54:56.91] >> Reza Sayah, well, don't

00:54:57.31] thank you.

00:54:58.25] >> For the additional

00:54:58.95] conversation. And I I wanted

00:55:00.28] to do that because in part I

00:55:06.36] got the invitation I am very

00:55:07.63] keenly interested and focused

00:55:09.39] on this area is in my district

00:55:11.56] and the it didn't crack more

00:55:13.20] neighborhoods will be

00:55:14.37] dramatically impacted. And I

00:55:15.72] think a very positive way by

00:55:16.10] this development as well.

00:55:18.97] Really the entire city I made

00:55:23.80] the mistake of forwarding that

00:55:26.16] invitation to one of the

00:55:27.15] neighborhood organizations and

00:55:27.98] learned that actually it's not

00:55:30.92] quite ready for that level of

00:55:32.23] public input. And so I'm

00:55:35.82] learning in the process and I

00:55:36.52] just thought it was since you

00:55:37.22] mentioned it. I was I brought

00:55:39.73] it up otherwise. But I think

00:55:40.66] it's an important thing for

00:55:41.36] people to be aware of. And as

00:55:42.96] the PRESIDENT Said, it's a

00:55:45.47] different way of doing city

00:55:48.74] city planning and engaging

00:55:48.70] stakeholders all the way

00:55:50.54] through and eventually, of

00:55:54.21] course, the neighborhoods most

00:55:55.18] affected and public will be

00:55:55.95] invited to participate as

00:55:56.51] well. So thank you. I

00:55:59.68] appreciate it very much.

00:56:00.35] >> You know, correct. I was

00:56:01.55] going to add on to that that

00:56:01.75] there will be a point for the

00:56:04.85] neighbors. To engage as well.

00:56:08.29] Right now, it's just more of

00:56:10.86] that at the engineering. Not

00:56:13.69] not what's going to go there,

00:56:14.57] but how we're going to improve

00:56:15.27] the district so that when we

00:56:18.70] go to market its shovel ready.

00:56:19.91] >> And I would just say for

00:56:21.11] for those who MAY be new

00:56:23.38] community, if you look at the

00:56:24.81] transformation that has taken

00:56:25.61] place on or stunned and

00:56:28.15] frankly, South Nevada. Over

00:56:30.15] the last few decades, you have

00:56:31.45] seen an area that has been

00:56:35.62] significantly transformed.

00:56:36.36] Providing much better in trees

00:56:38.96] to our community, but also

00:56:39.66] providing significantly more

00:56:44.33] sales tax revenue.

00:56:46.23] >> Making a community that we

00:56:47.54] can be proud of. And you've

00:56:49.57] seen those changes. The

00:56:50.24] entrance to siesta so much

00:56:50.97] nicer than it was when I moved

00:56:52.67] here.

00:56:53.41] >> I used teach their a little

00:56:57.41] bit so. Appreciate the work

00:56:58.31] that's been done and

00:56:59.38] appreciate all who are going

00:57:00.12] to participate in this process

00:57:04.22] going forward.

00:57:05.22] >> Moving on to item 7. Will

00:57:08.96] the clerk please read item at

00:57:09.26] which is items called a

00:57:10.46] consent calendar. Will the

00:57:11.50] clerk please read item for

00:57:18.27] into the record? City Council?

00:57:18.77] Regular meetings.

00:57:19.44] >> Special regular meeting

00:57:20.87] minutes, SEPTEMBER 17th 2026

00:57:28.21] COUNCILMAN Hand Jim.

00:57:29.58] >> Go ahead. Keep a lid some I

00:57:30.25] you introduce and then I do

00:57:33.72] snow. The Knicks. I up I

00:57:34.35] thought you mentioned in

00:57:36.79] yesterday's I'm sorry. Yes.

00:57:37.56] You said yesterday put off and

00:57:38.19] that was my confusion. So

00:57:41.33] COUNCILMAN Gold. Okay. Thank

00:57:45.16] you, MADAM PRESIDENT. So for

00:57:46.30] clarity, this is the city

00:57:48.33] Council special, regular

00:57:50.84] meeting minutes, SEPTEMBER

00:57:51.51] 27th SEPTEMBER, 17th 20 26,

00:57:54.28] which is the project Taurus.

00:57:55.38] >> Public hearing if you are

00:57:59.31] unable to attend this meeting

00:58:00.32] or any meeting for that matter

00:58:00.95] are meeting minutes are a

00:58:04.90] great way to get an accurate

00:58:04.75] reflection of what happened

00:58:06.26] during that meeting. Asked for

00:58:07.86] this to be pulled off for a

00:58:12.70] few reasons. One. On Page 11,

00:58:13.96] I do want to actually commend

00:58:17.50] council member rainy for for

00:58:17.67] stating the obvious that we

00:58:21.20] weren't quite ready and that

00:58:23.17] we needed further review. And

00:58:24.45] I want to publicly state to my

00:58:27.49] peers that I hope that we do

00:58:29.85] the work together to get the

00:58:30.48] items there listed in the

00:58:33.95] meeting minutes so that we can

00:58:35.45] better review this project and

00:58:36.19] support the will of the voters

00:58:41.23] in the future of our city.

00:58:42.23] Will not be able to vote yes

00:58:42.90] on these meeting minutes

00:58:44.66] because I do not feel like

00:58:47.50] they are reflected reflective

00:58:48.33] of the true depth of

00:58:51.76] everything that happened that

00:58:52.27] day. And while I have the

00:58:54.21] floor and because MISTER Caleb

00:58:57.51] is here in the audience. I do

00:58:59.78] actually want to sincerely

00:59:00.95] apologize. I believe that we

00:59:03.85] had an opportunity to listen

00:59:05.22] to our residents, even if it

00:59:07.99] wasn't within a certain

00:59:08.96] protocol and we did not do so.

00:59:14.96] Which resulted in. Some pretty

00:59:17.87] disturbing things that that

00:59:18.97] you yourself had to go through

00:59:21.67] and those who witnessed had to

00:59:22.34] go through when the will of

00:59:24.48] the people was to be heard by

00:59:27.38] there legislative body. And so

00:59:29.15] for that, I would like to

00:59:31.19] apologize to you and others

00:59:34.15] who had to endure that while

00:59:38.22] we were safely on a stage. So

00:59:40.19] again, I sincerely apologize I

00:59:42.16] hope that this doesn't deter

00:59:43.80] you or others from engaging

00:59:46.30] with your legislative body and

00:59:46.80] local government or any form

00:59:52.74] of government. Thank you. And

00:59:55.64] now I do have something to

00:59:56.64] say. So.

00:59:57.88] >> I didn't know. Actually the

00:59:58.61] council and the goal was going

00:59:59.31] to pull this off the agenda.

01:00:01.78] But I did. And I want to

01:00:04.90] highlight the opportunity here

01:00:06.42] take this an opportunity to

01:00:09.12] highlight the work of the city

01:00:09.76] clerk's office and the

01:00:13.50] incredible work that goes into

01:00:14.20] creating minutes a record of

01:00:16.77] all of our public processees.

01:00:18.83] This was very, very long

01:00:21.60] meeting. Therefore, you can

01:00:23.64] imagine taking minutes for

01:00:24.87] such a long meeting is quite

01:00:29.35] the quite the task. Those

01:00:30.78] minutes were published on

01:00:32.42] Wednesday and then a corrected

01:00:35.57] version was published on

01:00:36.75] Friday. And I read those

01:00:40.79] minutes long. I don't remember

01:00:42.63] every single thing myself, but

01:00:44.60] I actually took the

01:00:45.53] opportunity to get a

01:00:47.93] transcript, an actual verbatim

01:00:50.27] transcript of the minutes. And

01:00:56.44] I and ai assistant to help me

01:00:57.21] look for discrepancies or

01:00:57.91] things that might be missing

01:01:00.75] and so forth. And it produced

01:01:02.32] rather long set of

01:01:03.15] discrepancies. I reviewed

01:01:05.90] those with our city clerk,

01:01:08.52] Sarah Johnson. She's

01:01:09.19] responsible for the minutes

01:01:10.93] and they have a process and a

01:01:12.53] way of of capturing the

01:01:16.80] minutes that I respect and she

01:01:17.47] might want to say something

01:01:18.97] about that. But if they're

01:01:20.84] not, it's not like verbatim.

01:01:22.76] What was said by every single

01:01:24.17] person MAY they summarize and

01:01:25.31] there's you know, that that

01:01:28.28] happens as part of the

01:01:30.25] minutes. But I did present

01:01:32.92] with her a number of the

01:01:35.82] things that were identified

01:01:36.32] and a missing now

01:01:37.49] clarification of emotion or

01:01:38.42] whatever she reviewed those

01:01:41.53] yesterday with her staff

01:01:43.53] together. We said, okay, yeah,

01:01:44.66] this this this we're going let

01:01:46.20] go of and this we're going to

01:01:48.40] keep I sent that memo to all

01:01:51.14] of my fellow council members

01:01:51.80] yesterday. I don't know if

01:01:52.50] they've all had the chance to

01:01:55.14] read it or not, but I'm now

01:01:56.12] comfortable myself with voting

01:01:58.81] on the minutes as with those

01:02:01.28] corrections presented to the

01:02:02.31] city clerk and the city clerk

01:02:04.92] might want to say something

01:02:06.75] about it, but she was fine

01:02:07.42] with the corrections that I

01:02:09.76] made and therefore, I would

01:02:10.56] assume is fine with the

01:02:11.29] minutes as presented and ready

01:02:16.33] to be voted on. And thank you.

01:02:18.93] I appreciate This was a long

01:02:19.30] meeting.

01:02:20.80] >> There was a lot of

01:02:23.70] discussion on that. And we do

01:02:24.97] as councilmember I'm so we do

01:02:25.64] some re minutes and then we

01:02:28.61] send those out to the

01:02:29.58] appropriate department,

01:02:30.48] particularly land use because

01:02:32.15] it's not our area of

01:02:34.35] expertise. So we do send those

01:02:36.90] out to the different

01:02:36.89] Department for review to make

01:02:38.82] sure we've captured things

01:02:40.82] correctly, along with the city

01:02:41.43] attorney's office. So I

01:02:42.69] appreciate their input on

01:02:45.16] that. And I want to give a

01:02:46.96] shout out to Curly Thompson on

01:02:47.57] my staff. That does the

01:02:50.50] yeoman's work on this and she

01:02:52.70] did fabulous job. We did

01:02:54.81] review and councilmember and

01:02:57.24] the difference is we're really

01:02:58.21] we do some re minutes. So we

01:03:00.91] summarize something. But in

01:03:02.21] the actual transcript, it was

01:03:04.52] a little more detailed which

01:03:05.18] was fine with the way we do

01:03:08.35] minutes to is.

01:03:09.49] >> What was said not what was

01:03:10.42] thought of or what was

01:03:13.63] implied, but what was actually

01:03:14.56] said and the minute. And so

01:03:15.26] there are several changes. If

01:03:17.87] you can send me that e-mail.

01:03:19.67] >> The final when you sent out

01:03:20.97] yesterday after they're our

01:03:22.57] discussion, that would be

01:03:24.87] helpful. Then we can get those

01:03:26.94] it to my fellow council member

01:03:27.74] forgot to send it to us.

01:03:30.78] That's a time we'll get those

01:03:31.65] changes MAY, but I do

01:03:32.35] appreciate everybody takes a

01:03:33.45] lot of time to go through the

01:03:34.12] meeting. It takes a lot of

01:03:34.78] times do the minutes and I

01:03:35.92] appreciate you are reading

01:03:36.65] them. We greatly appreciate

01:03:42.83] that. COUNCILMAN Dawson.

01:03:43.43] >> Yeah, thanks, MADAM

01:03:48.53] PRESIDENT and I would

01:03:49.73] recommend that.

01:03:50.40] >> Since there's still some

01:03:51.73] things being change in the

01:03:52.73] minutes that we I would make a

01:03:52.90] motion to postpone this just

01:03:55.67] into our next meeting. And

01:03:56.41] we've all had a chance to look

01:03:57.88] at what we're really voting

01:04:00.49] on, which is sounds like be a

01:04:00.74] little different than what we

01:04:02.65] have in our packets. I don't

01:04:03.35] think there's any issue with

01:04:06.42] just. Being sure that we're

01:04:10.94] voting on. That. We've

01:04:11.26] actually read what we're

01:04:11.96] voting on. So I would make a

01:04:12.76] motion to just postpone this

01:04:19.87] until our next meeting.

01:04:24.40] >> I'll second. At a motion

01:04:25.11] from COUNCILMAN Donaldson to

01:04:29.94] postpone.

01:04:32.55] >> Ruble of for yeah. For ba.

01:04:33.11] >> And a second from

01:04:33.78] COUNCILMAN Hinge and let's

01:04:48.20] bow.

01:04:51.80] And the motion passes 5

01:04:57.71] to 4.

01:04:59.48] >> Moving on to item 8.80,

01:05:03.68] council Johnson.

01:05:07.75] >> My question would be the

01:05:08.92] Woods said in a day. So I'm

01:05:09.59] I'm happy. I don't know if

01:05:10.26] Sarah Nice to read into the

01:05:16.73] record. Which are item which

01:05:19.73] is utilities can I was getting

01:05:20.71] there?

01:05:22.84] >> ok, yeah, I'm running the

01:05:23.54] meeting. We are moving on to

01:05:24.20] item 8 a will the clerk,

01:05:26.27] please write it. Read.

01:05:29.38] >> Item 8, a into the record.

01:05:30.48] >> Resolution authorizing the

01:05:32.11] purchase price of the

01:05:32.75] acquisition of permanent

01:05:34.58] easement on the property Dana,

01:05:41.66] 5 Pasco County tax schedule.

01:05:42.36] 6, 4, 3, 4, 1, 0, 0, 0, 3, 2,

01:05:46.30] 6, 4, 3, 4, 1, 0, 0, 3, 5, 6,

01:05:50.43] a 4, 3, 4, 1, 1, 2, 0, 0, 4,

01:05:52.37] And located and Astrozon

01:05:53.37] boulevard fees for the kill

01:05:53.94] Kurds to South plant

01:05:55.20] transmission project. Good

01:06:00.54] morning, Jessica.

01:06:01.21] >> MADAM PRESIDENT. And you

01:06:02.58] know, my question actually

01:06:03.58] pertains to the minutes, but

01:06:04.21] it's a utilities question

01:06:05.92] about these minutes. Can can I

01:06:08.45] ask that now? Yes. Okay.

01:06:10.92] Thanks so.

01:06:11.59] >> For the reason are a big

01:06:13.26] part of the reason.

01:06:18.66] >> In my memory that. Council

01:06:19.36] voted to postpone a decision

01:06:26.54] on. Project Taurus was too.

01:06:27.14] Allow utilities time to

01:06:29.14] receive a an application from

01:06:36.22] rating. For a large load study

01:06:36.92] and that would determine. And

01:06:38.59] then at that point, Raiden

01:06:39.19] would declare how many

01:06:41.29] megawatts power they want. So,

01:06:45.83] yes, you can go out start

01:06:46.93] getting the pricing on that

01:06:48.13] much power and also would help

01:06:50.36] counsel. That's why we

01:06:52.60] postpone. I would like to ask

01:06:55.80] the ceo if Reagan has

01:07:03.41] submitted that application.

01:07:07.42] >> As of today, we have not

01:07:08.12] received an application from

01:07:08.72] raiding or move for the

01:07:16.19] process to request. MR. Deal.

01:07:21.10] Can you just clarify?

01:07:22.43] >> What what? Why is that

01:07:23.39] important that that csu

01:07:25.20] receives an application? If

01:07:27.37] the applicant? Wants to

01:07:32.18] proceed?

01:07:34.28] >> For us on the power side

01:07:35.22] and infrastructure that

01:07:35.92] applicant required to pay for

01:07:38.15] all the infrastructure up

01:07:39.45] front. Whatever comes through

01:07:40.55] with our distribution system,

01:07:43.62] which is csu engineering, then

01:07:43.82] the other one is actually

01:07:44.49] through the southwest Power

01:07:45.99] Pool will have to pay for any

01:07:48.26] of that. Allows us to

01:07:50.20] understand what the mode

01:07:50.63] requirements are. And we

01:07:51.93] haven't really got that

01:07:53.84] defined yet. So pretty much as

01:07:54.54] we're concerned, all of that

01:07:56.80] has to happen before there are

01:08:01.11] in the process.

01:08:01.71] >> ok, thank you, MADAM

01:08:02.38] PRESIDENT. I just one it's

01:08:05.25] been a month and that's why

01:08:06.58] that decision was postponed to

01:08:09.19] allow this to happen. And

01:08:09.85] apparently there's been

01:08:10.92] there's been no progress. So

01:08:13.96] thank you.

01:08:15.63] >> COUNCILMAN Drizzly, thanks,

01:08:16.64] MADAM PRESIDENT. I'm just

01:08:17.16] curious. And fire city

01:08:18.23] attorney would give us some

01:08:19.23] guidance about this because

01:08:21.27] this is a quasi judicial

01:08:21.97] matter. And I I I think we're

01:08:24.50] curtailing the conversation.

01:08:25.14] >> But I'm concerned that

01:08:25.80] we're treading on some ice

01:08:28.57] here.

01:08:29.31] >> Council PRESIDENT

01:08:31.21] Three-year to PRESIDENT Pro

01:08:33.14] Tem drizzly. I think that's

01:08:33.88] well We can receive

01:08:36.58] information here. But in terms

01:08:38.52] of and tends to a debate

01:08:39.52] regarding whether or not that

01:08:40.19] makes a difference on your

01:08:40.79] decision that would be

01:08:47.69] inappropriate. Good morning,

01:08:48.66] Jessica.

01:08:48.66] >> Good morning. MADAM

01:08:50.66] PRESIDENT, Pro Tem members of

01:08:51.33] City Council, many Jessica

01:08:52.40] Davis in the land resource

01:08:52.70] manager for Colorado Springs,

01:08:55.54] Utilities. And as the city

01:08:56.20] clerk stated, I am here to

01:08:57.44] talk about the Lockwood

01:08:58.14] properties for the Calcutta.

01:08:58.74] South plan transmission

01:09:03.48] project. As a refresher

01:09:05.61] reminder Coker to Southland

01:09:06.42] Transmission Project is a 5.5

01:09:10.22] around 5.5 mile long

01:09:10.89] transmission line from our

01:09:13.26] Calpers substation located

01:09:15.23] South Academy in Hancock to

01:09:15.99] our South Plant substation,

01:09:16.69] located at the former site of

01:09:20.70] Drake. We've been I'm also

01:09:21.97] happy to report that this will

01:09:23.53] hopefully be the last time in

01:09:24.87] front of you is all the land

01:09:25.67] stuff is now going to be

01:09:26.70] closed on this particular

01:09:27.40] project. And construction has

01:09:32.91] begun. So for this one,

01:09:34.25] Lockwood has 3 different

01:09:34.95] parcels that we're looking at

01:09:38.18] to acquire easement on. They

01:09:40.90] have a to larger parcels and

01:09:40.82] then a postage stamp parcel in

01:09:43.62] the middle of the property. So

01:09:45.76] the first that we're talking

01:09:47.86] about is larger parcels, as

01:09:48.53] you can see in the picture,

01:09:49.23] we're making kind of an al

01:09:49.96] straight on the north and west

01:09:51.56] side of their property. The

01:09:56.64] pricing for this particular

01:09:57.34] section of their property was

01:09:58.10] negotiated prior to him and

01:09:59.37] how should step back. So I was

01:10:02.54] in front of you about a year

01:10:05.18] ago to talk about media

01:10:05.61] because meant immediate

01:10:07.98] possession and intimate domain

01:10:09.38] to get access to the property

01:10:10.12] to begin construction. So then

01:10:11.99] we can negotiate through the

01:10:12.69] court system and how much the

01:10:15.66] value of their property is

01:10:16.46] worth. The property owners

01:10:19.46] very willing to work with us

01:10:20.67] on allowing us on their

01:10:22.47] property to do construction.

01:10:24.47] However, we had some issues

01:10:26.84] with what they thought the

01:10:27.57] value of their property was

01:10:29.34] and the value of their

01:10:30.79] property, the issues that they

01:10:31.44] had nothing to do with these 2

01:10:33.38] particular parcels. So I'm

01:10:34.45] going go to the one that's

01:10:35.18] kind of been a little bit of a

01:10:39.75] trouble. So this is assault

01:10:41.25] Harris site that the that the

01:10:42.65] property owner leases to a 3rd

01:10:45.32] party to get revenue for the

01:10:48.46] property. The biggest concern

01:10:49.66] on this basically what the

01:10:51.83] issue is is that their concern

01:10:52.37] was if we build our

01:10:54.94] transmission line, would we

01:10:56.97] take away their opportunity to

01:10:57.64] make rental income on this

01:11:00.31] postage stamp parcel. And so

01:11:02.44] after a long discussion and

01:11:03.51] after deciding, you know, how

01:11:06.51] much is this post and partial

01:11:07.22] actually worth? We were able

01:11:09.45] to come to a settlement with

01:11:10.52] And that's just kind of this

01:11:11.22] is a lot of information that

01:11:11.82] walks through with the

01:11:13.59] settlement was. But this is

01:11:17.46] the most important The city of

01:11:22.60] praise. Like I said, first 2

01:11:23.33] parcels are fairly Clear about

01:11:24.20] a dollar part on a career like

01:11:24.93] per square foot. What it would

01:11:28.57] cost. On personal 38 c or the

01:11:31.88] push to stamp site. We were

01:11:32.54] extremely far apart. We had

01:11:35.50] about $54, a square foot and

01:11:35.81] they said it was worth about

01:11:39.20] $248, a square foot. So

01:11:40.18] through the court system and

01:11:43.25] through a lot of discussion we

01:11:43.69] finally discover we finally

01:11:44.39] settled on an amount kind of

01:11:46.12] in between about $150, a

01:11:50.33] square foot, which is about

01:11:51.33] $241,000. It's all said and a

01:11:52.33] settlement for the lack

01:11:53.70] properties for all 3 easements

01:11:58.54] is $475,000. And with that,

01:11:59.77] I'm requesting permission

01:12:02.46] today to settle back with him.

01:12:02.78] Pay the amount of $475,000 to

01:12:07.58] them for the three-months.

01:12:08.72] COUNCILMAN Gold. Thank you,

01:12:09.68] MADAM PRESIDENT and thank you,

01:12:10.35] Jessica, for being here and

01:12:12.55] explaining this to us.

01:12:13.62] >> Could you go back to slide

01:12:19.79] for please salute Lee. This

01:12:20.46] strip within the Southeast,

01:12:22.26] but the district 4 literally

01:12:26.14] keeps me up at night. If you

01:12:27.54] can see outside of part that

01:12:29.43] we're going to be acquired

01:12:29.67] will hopefully acquiring

01:12:31.91] you'll see debris. I think

01:12:35.18] this debris that's evident in

01:12:37.68] this photo just a fraction of

01:12:40.72] what that road looks like. So

01:12:41.95] my hope is that we can move

01:12:45.12] forward with this purchase.

01:12:46.92] And my hope is that the

01:12:48.19] property owner do some

01:12:49.53] significant investment with

01:12:54.77] some of this money to reclaim

01:12:57.67] this part of the southeast for

01:12:58.37] our community. It sits

01:13:00.34] directly next to the Sand

01:13:03.54] Creek Trail. So it causes a

01:13:05.41] lot of disruption. There are

01:13:08.38] businesses there that are

01:13:09.95] negatively impacted by the

01:13:12.85] appearance of of this area. So

01:13:13.99] I'm glad this is happening. I

01:13:17.52] think this is, you know, much

01:13:18.19] bigger than the staff Coker

01:13:23.30] plant. It is. It is. Some

01:13:24.20] investment in this particular

01:13:25.47] area by the property owner

01:13:28.74] could be transformative to the

01:13:29.54] southeast. So Tsai well,

01:13:30.11] second Councilmember

01:13:31.34] Donaldson's motion to approve

01:13:33.58] this and I hope that we can

01:13:34.28] see some rapid improvement on

01:13:35.11] this piece of property. Thank

01:13:39.22] you.

01:13:40.28] >> Have a motion from

01:13:40.92] COUNCILMAN Donelson in a

01:13:41.62] second from COUNCILMAN Gold.

01:13:49.36] Let's foe.

01:13:50.43] >> the motion passes 9 to

01:13:52.93] Thank you. Thank you. Moving

01:13:57.24] on to item 10 new business

01:13:57.94] Well, the clerk, please read

01:14:01.84] item into the record.

01:14:03.91] >> Resolution ending the least

01:14:05.48] the city auditorium to a va

01:14:06.31] presents llc to extend the

01:14:07.18] rent abatement period to

01:14:08.82] APRIL. First 2027.

01:14:11.58] >> Good morning, Kim.

01:14:12.42] >> Good Morning Council

01:14:14.39] PRESIDENT Pro Everson

01:14:15.46] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Risley and

01:14:18.33] members of council. Thank you

01:14:19.33] again for having us here

01:14:20.23] today. My name is Kim King of

01:14:21.20] the assistant director for the

01:14:23.10] part Recreation, Cultural

01:14:24.70] Services Department. This is

01:14:25.53] an item that was presented to

01:14:29.87] you a few weeks ago regarding

01:14:31.74] the change of an embankment

01:14:32.74] rent date.

01:14:33.91] >> And at least for the city

01:14:37.85] auditorium with vendor, aba

01:14:38.55] presents happy to repairs at

01:14:39.98] the We're here to answer

01:14:40.62] questions, Ali is here as

01:14:46.61] well. COUNCILMAN Drizzly,

01:14:49.66] thanks, MADAM PRESIDENT.

01:14:50.89] >> Kim, you'll recall at our

01:14:51.93] work session meeting. I ask

01:14:53.76] the question, what happens if

01:14:57.84] we get to APRIL and building

01:14:59.67] doing what we expected to do

01:15:02.31] or business model still isn't

01:15:03.88] playing out. Can you give me

01:15:04.61] The answer to that question

01:15:06.75] again, just on the record.

01:15:08.71] >> Yes, sir. I do recall that

01:15:10.92] question. And the commitment

01:15:13.85] was this would be the change

01:15:14.49] to the day is is the only

01:15:15.55] change we would not further

01:15:16.56] extend the rate of being

01:15:17.26] statement period would begin

01:15:20.86] on APRIL. First 2027.

01:15:21.56] >> Is there a reason why that

01:15:22.16] wasn't written into the

01:15:22.76] agreement are into the

01:15:23.50] resolution that we're going to

01:15:25.17] be voting on.

01:15:27.63] >> know, at the time I believe

01:15:29.44] there was discussion. I didn't

01:15:32.31] know that that was something

01:15:33.12] that requirement. If that is

01:15:33.64] something that you would

01:15:35.51] desire and council proves that

01:15:36.21] it could be something that we

01:15:38.78] could add.

01:15:40.18] >> I don't Yeah. I don't know

01:15:41.18] how my colleagues are feeling

01:15:42.92] about it, but I asked the

01:15:43.79] question and you gave an

01:15:45.15] answer on the record. And so

01:15:47.12] it seems to me that whether we

01:15:48.56] modified the resolution or

01:15:49.26] not, it's on the record that

01:15:50.43] that's the intent of the city.

01:15:51.99] Correct? Correct. And I do

01:15:54.30] believe.

01:15:55.30] >> If we have any additional

01:15:57.57] information we would need to

01:15:58.70] provide. I also Kelly

01:15:59.54] Billingsley here and Caitlin

01:16:00.24] Moldenhawer have been working

01:16:02.67] on this lease with me. And so

01:16:03.71] I don't know if that's a

01:16:05.28] question for the attorney or

01:16:07.15] not. Again.

01:16:07.81] >> I think it's a point of

01:16:13.56] discussion.

01:16:15.15] >> MADAM PRESIDENT, Stephen

01:16:15.89] Baster City attorney, we could

01:16:16.59] amend the resolution from the

01:16:18.49] diocese to include that or we

01:16:20.33] could postpone it up. So we

01:16:21.98] could officially include that

01:16:21.76] in the Either way would be

01:16:24.36] fine.

01:16:25.63] >> And again, I haven't had a

01:16:26.40] conversation with my

01:16:28.33] colleagues. I don't know how

01:16:29.40] anyone else is scaling on on

01:16:32.34] this topic. But I don't

01:16:33.37] necessarily want to make

01:16:34.28] things messier than they need

01:16:36.24] to be. But again, I ask the

01:16:37.49] question at work session and

01:16:37.71] can give us the answer that

01:16:42.25] you just gave us. So. Maybe

01:16:44.90] I'll test the waters and make

01:16:44.75] a motion that we amend the

01:16:51.31] resolution rent abatement ends

01:16:51.73] on APRIL first 2027 and will

01:16:53.56] not be extended again going

01:16:54.23] forward. So they willing to

01:16:59.80] second that.

01:17:00.47] >> 7 motion from COUNCILMAN

01:17:01.10] Drizzly in a second from

01:17:03.87] COUNCILMAN Williams to a man.

01:17:07.15] As he just stated. If you

01:17:07.71] repeat it, you have, sir, for

01:17:12.35] the record. Coming up.

01:17:18.12] And just clarification and the

01:17:20.30] rent abatement on APRIL. 1st,

01:17:30.30] that's correct. 2027. Again

01:17:32.34] because initially it was JUNE

01:17:33.54] yet which we would start. Yes,

01:17:35.74] it was initially JUNE. 26 to

01:17:36.38] submit it to APRIL. First

01:17:41.53] 2027.

01:17:41.78] >> Well, if we can, we have

01:17:42.42] some discussion before we

01:17:45.99] vote. MADAM PRESIDENT.

01:17:46.72] >> Yes, can sometimes just for

01:17:50.43] clarification. I. Type 2

01:17:51.79] instead of one. Sorry. So the

01:17:52.49] motion on your screen says 2,

01:17:58.40] it should be one.

01:17:59.44] >> Cancer, can you remind me

01:18:04.87] without this amendment? What

01:18:06.14] does it say now as far as rent

01:18:09.41] abatement until one?

01:18:12.15] >> It was chilled the JUNE of

01:18:12.75] 2026. Date. So this is

01:18:13.42] extending it when we talked

01:18:16.82] few weeks ago. It's because,

01:18:17.66] you know, we're still

01:18:18.32] continuing renovations. We

01:18:21.56] haven't started that earning

01:18:22.29] revenue for the facilities. So

01:18:22.99] that's why we're going extend

01:18:24.83] the period.

01:18:27.60] >> Use remind me. It already

01:18:32.43] has a

01:18:32.67] >> Sunset clause in here

01:18:34.24] renovate monies extend until

01:18:36.80] when.

01:18:37.51] >> It was currently it was the

01:18:40.51] JUNE of 2026. Date. This will

01:18:43.45] go to the APRIL first 2027 day

01:18:44.15] and that would be the end of

01:18:45.45] the rent abatement period.

01:18:46.15] There would be no opportunity

01:18:49.46] for extension.

01:18:52.43] >> that is that is my

01:18:53.66] colleagues request to add

01:18:53.73] that. And what does it say

01:18:56.23] currently are also I can just

01:18:58.17] read

01:19:00.27] >> Currently, it would just do

01:19:01.70] it extended to the APRIL first

01:19:02.97] 20 20th date, which is the

01:19:05.21] proposed extension its silent

01:19:07.18] on whether or not there would

01:19:08.28] be an opportunity for MISTER

01:19:09.35] Morelli to come forward and

01:19:10.41] ask for another extension

01:19:11.98] looking good. And this is the

01:19:12.82] heart of what I'd like to have

01:19:15.15] the the discussion about right

01:19:15.45] now.

01:19:19.12] >> It MAY happen did in APRIL.

01:19:19.79] There are new circumstances

01:19:20.49] and we think it's appropriate

01:19:21.23] to extended for 2 more months.

01:19:27.40] So. I agree with the Pro

01:19:29.50] Thames View that, hey, this is

01:19:30.60] on record. This is our intent.

01:19:32.60] I don't think we need to lock

01:19:38.15] it in an amendment. I don't

01:19:39.21] know we game and can we even

01:19:41.85] do that as an attorney

01:19:42.92] question, can we limits future

01:19:51.29] Council to never it extended?

01:19:52.30] >> You could try if that works

01:19:54.40] and actual effect, probably

01:19:57.69] not. But you couldn't make to

01:19:57.43] the next.

01:19:58.37] >> You know, in APRIL, a

01:19:59.33] council could come along and

01:19:59.97] vote to override that and

01:20:05.27] extend it. So and I appreciate

01:20:05.97] my colleagues concern about,

01:20:06.64] hey, we just can't kick the

01:20:07.18] can down the road

01:20:10.91] indefinitely, but I think many

01:20:11.68] of us are still going to be

01:20:18.36] here after APRIL. Of 27 and so

01:20:19.93] we know what was said today. I

01:20:19.76] don't I just don't think we

01:20:22.43] need to amend this country and

01:20:23.46] make it more difficult when

01:20:26.70] that month comes if if there's

01:20:29.80] desire on the part of council

01:20:31.40] that, you know what we need to

01:20:32.24] do this for an additional 2

01:20:32.90] months because construction

01:20:36.81] took longer than expected.

01:20:37.64] Unforeseen for circumstances

01:20:42.21] in the future. That's my view.

01:20:43.12] >> appreciate that.

01:20:44.21] Councilmember. My point is

01:20:45.38] that I just don't want this to

01:20:46.45] continue in perpetuity, right?

01:20:48.32] We could get APRIL 1st and

01:20:49.12] decide again that there's

01:20:49.92] going to be another extension

01:20:51.52] and then another extension.

01:20:53.69] Another extension. And this is

01:20:55.40] a rate, a big this is rent

01:20:56.43] rate abatement, meaning that

01:20:58.36] taxpayers are helping to

01:21:00.30] subsidize, which I understand

01:21:01.60] the importance of the value

01:21:04.43] this facility in trying to

01:21:05.24] breathes new life into it. And

01:21:06.27] I'm certainly not opposed to

01:21:06.97] that are trying to get in the

01:21:10.83] way of that. When I look at

01:21:12.52] the use of taxpayer dollars,

01:21:15.68] is it appropriate to

01:21:16.99] essentially set up a situation

01:21:18.22] that in perpetuity this could

01:21:20.46] be, you know, retread it every

01:21:23.46] 6 months or every year and and

01:21:25.36] I also appreciate that. The

01:21:27.60] next council or this body in

01:21:28.26] APRIL before the change of

01:21:33.34] leadership. Voted that time to

01:21:35.64] extend it again. So I I

01:21:36.81] understand that we MAY not be

01:21:39.14] able to lock this down and

01:21:41.31] prevent it from being

01:21:43.15] extended. But I had asked the

01:21:43.85] question and community given

01:21:45.22] the answer. But the intent

01:21:47.24] was. And I'm simply suggesting

01:21:47.72] that we include the intent in

01:21:50.46] the written resolution.

01:21:51.69] >> And I appreciate that. I

01:21:52.36] would say MISTER Morelle as

01:21:55.49] well as is looking forward to

01:21:56.53] moving forward with the

01:21:57.23] businesses soon as possible.

01:21:59.30] Seth is making strides

01:21:59.90] indefinitely is making

01:22:00.73] improvements over there.

01:22:07.91] >> COUNCILMAN Line Weber.

01:22:08.54] >> Yeah, I wanted to hear

01:22:16.15] from. Storm around the summer

01:22:19.92] morale a on this is acceptable

01:22:20.39] to him is is walking in this

01:22:21.12] April date, something that you

01:22:25.46] can work with.

01:22:26.13] >> good morning. Thanks for

01:22:29.97] having again. I I do think.

01:22:32.73] The specificity of the day was

01:22:33.20] one bit was necessary to put a

01:22:33.80] resolution in front of

01:22:39.21] council. As Ken said, my goal

01:22:40.48] truly is to get the business

01:22:43.28] operating as quickly as

01:22:43.98] possible. Doesn't do me any

01:22:44.75] favors to keep staff on hand

01:22:48.35] and to attract construction.

01:22:50.56] So we do want to get it in

01:22:51.32] place quickly as possible. I

01:22:52.62] think through discussion with

01:22:53.29] real estate services and my

01:22:57.68] team and parks, this was the

01:22:57.66] date became up with his

01:23:00.47] seeming to be the most

01:23:01.20] reasonable. But things do

01:23:02.70] happen. Thanks for pointing

01:23:04.60] that out. COUNCILMAN. That

01:23:06.91] mean expect the covid to

01:23:07.54] happen in that had a huge

01:23:08.58] effect on what how people

01:23:12.75] could operate concert venues

01:23:14.78] or any kind of assembly

01:23:16.28] places. And so I I would worry

01:23:16.89] of the debate by having

01:23:20.39] something like that in place.

01:23:22.32] If there's something unrelated

01:23:24.39] to renovation or construction

01:23:25.63] that were to occur like it, an

01:23:26.33] unforeseen circumstance there

01:23:27.93] wouldn't be an opportunity

01:23:28.53] without jumping through

01:23:31.33] additional hoops. I'm not

01:23:32.57] opposed to it because again,

01:23:35.10] my intent is not delay paying

01:23:35.87] rent in any way at all. Just

01:23:40.74] trying to. Figure how to get

01:23:42.17] to the finish line honestly.

01:23:46.65] And one thing I would say

01:23:47.95] making a building like this

01:23:49.85] matter again, is no small

01:23:51.99] undertaking. It's taken a lot

01:23:53.86] of work and there were a lot

01:23:57.10] of unforeseen circumstances as

01:23:58.40] you know, councilmen. If you

01:24:00.20] open up the wall and historic

01:24:01.23] building, you find things you

01:24:01.93] would have never expected be

01:24:02.60] found. I think I said last

01:24:06.44] time we found it. Vacuum

01:24:06.74] system. Central vacuum system

01:24:09.11] in the building that is a

01:24:11.11] great thing to have put into a

01:24:11.91] building 100 years ago. Got in

01:24:12.61] the way some of the plumbing

01:24:15.68] we need to make. So in terms

01:24:17.52] of perspective, I would just

01:24:18.72] say we've only had possession

01:24:19.45] of the building for a year and

01:24:22.32] we've had to do in place.

01:24:22.99] Investigations assessments,

01:24:23.73] planning all these things. And

01:24:28.34] in. The lifeline of this

01:24:28.70] building in the lifeline in

01:24:31.23] the 10 years it's gone largely

01:24:33.40] unused 20 years, actually

01:24:35.17] maybe is going largely news 10

01:24:35.87] years, been trying to figure

01:24:37.77] out a solution to it to have

01:24:39.51] only had it for a year and

01:24:40.24] made the progress we've I feel

01:24:45.32] pretty proud of that. But if

01:24:46.35] that's a necessity to add into

01:24:49.58] the resolution to make it.

01:24:50.95] Something that's comfortable

01:24:52.69] for council. It's the city

01:24:54.46] building. So I'm open to

01:24:55.13] whatever proposition you'd

01:24:58.60] like to make.

01:24:59.36] >> Well, I I just want to do

01:25:02.84] whatever we can do to help you

01:25:04.77] succeed. Thank you. I

01:25:05.74] certainly understand viewpoint

01:25:09.38] that we just can't extend this

01:25:10.31] forever, the And you just

01:25:12.14] stated yourself that you just

01:25:13.83] can't go on forever either

01:25:17.85] without it operating. So so

01:25:20.55] you're in cure during

01:25:21.22] financial lost every single

01:25:24.86] month. It's not open. And so I

01:25:26.13] think that's kind of obvious.

01:25:26.86] But I'm I'm not really opposed

01:25:30.50] to this idea. I also heard our

01:25:31.23] city attorney says the council

01:25:36.17] can always change its mind. So

01:25:36.87] all put this in here. I think

01:25:39.54] they're still. Little room. So

01:25:41.28] anyway, thank you.

01:25:43.75] >> For sure. COUNCILMAN

01:25:44.15] Donaldson.

01:25:46.52] >> Yeah, thanks. Thanks again,

01:25:47.18] MADAM PRESIDENT, I'll just

01:25:47.82] point out that what we're

01:25:51.22] voting on is. Basically not to

01:25:53.66] charge MISTER Morelle rent,

01:25:55.59] you know, until APRIL one of

01:25:57.56] 2027. And then if if this

01:25:58.23] amendment is approved, what

01:25:59.56] we're saying is and that

01:26:02.70] cannot be extended. And I

01:26:04.77] don't see a necessity to do

01:26:05.70] that. There's a limit to it

01:26:06.67] right now. It ends on APRIL

01:26:08.54] one. 22 27 and rent will

01:26:12.88] begin. On APRIL second or on

01:26:15.18] APRIL. First of 2027. Without

01:26:19.12] adding this amendment. And so

01:26:20.35] just in a spirit of

01:26:20.99] collaboration with MISTER

01:26:24.29] Morelle, he's taken on

01:26:24.62] something that's really

01:26:25.33] important to the city. It's a

01:26:28.73] very historical building. It's

01:26:30.83] Thomas McLaren a design. I

01:26:33.60] believe it was. It was an

01:26:35.60] amazing thing that that

01:26:37.44] citizens did more than 100

01:26:40.74] years ago. They funded out of.

01:26:41.84] Out of their own pockets. It

01:26:42.64] wasn't it wasn't tax. It was a

01:26:47.72] a collection to build the

01:26:48.92] largest auditorium to side of

01:26:49.59] a the Mississippi, except I

01:26:53.16] think San Francisco and so,

01:26:54.42] you know, the work you're

01:26:55.52] doing, I mean, the previous

01:26:56.86] option was going to gut the

01:26:57.56] inside of it and turn it into

01:27:03.57] modern. Basically similar

01:27:05.70] office space. So I mean, we've

01:27:07.51] had this discussion before. I

01:27:08.47] sincerely appreciate what

01:27:09.21] you're doing to retain as much

01:27:11.68] as store a cull.

01:27:17.72] What sort coherence that we

01:27:18.42] can in the building. But but

01:27:22.42] bring it up to modern. Music

01:27:25.99] venue standards. So I just I

01:27:27.64] just I would hate to do this

01:27:29.33] and kind of like draw a line

01:27:33.10] in the sand. A second line,

01:27:35.57] really? Because it's already

01:27:36.30] there. The pavement ends on on

01:27:36.97] APRIL first. So I asked my

01:27:40.14] colleagues. You know, I would

01:27:42.21] ask I would ask the pro tem to

01:27:43.61] withdraw this and then I would

01:27:44.61] ask my my colleagues if it's

01:27:47.35] not just vote vote against it,

01:27:50.29] it ends on APRIL. First

01:27:51.19] anyway, the new the other.

01:27:51.89] There MAY be some new council

01:27:54.36] members on APRIL first and

01:27:55.49] they they won't know this

01:27:56.56] background and to them, it's

01:27:57.73] going to have this you that

01:27:59.50] now shall not extended in

01:28:00.46] there. And I don't think

01:28:04.27] that's helpful thank you.

01:28:05.70] >> COUNCILMAN Thank you, MADAM

01:28:08.41] PRESIDENT. And this is a good

01:28:12.98] valuable conversation you

01:28:14.49] know, I think it's really

01:28:15.50] important for us to

01:28:16.11] acknowledge and recognize that

01:28:20.25] for decades we have deferred

01:28:23.92] maintenance on a historic city

01:28:25.12] property and we defer

01:28:27.26] maintenance on so many things

01:28:27.89] because we don't have the

01:28:29.80] dollars in the budget. And we

01:28:34.10] have a. Homegrown Colorado

01:28:40.21] Springs boy. Now, man who is

01:28:40.84] devoting his expertise in

01:28:43.74] energy into helping we store

01:28:47.52] this. This Billy beloved.

01:28:50.62] Property for the city of

01:28:52.25] Colorado Springs. And so I

01:28:52.89] concur and I don't think

01:28:55.28] anybody expects or wants that

01:28:56.69] this abatement would happen

01:28:57.93] forever. The point is to get

01:29:01.93] it back to the condition it

01:29:02.66] needs to be and so that he can

01:29:07.50] proceed with the relationship

01:29:08.71] and the partnership he has

01:29:09.34] forged with the city over

01:29:12.44] many, many months of of a

01:29:14.21] collaboration and

01:29:15.98] conversations. So I too don't

01:29:18.62] want to and we do have

01:29:20.79] restriction. We MAY have to

01:29:21.82] visit again at some point. I

01:29:25.29] don't think it's necessary put

01:29:27.16] a firmer line as was just said

01:29:29.89] by Councilmember Donelson. So

01:29:32.67] I certainly wouldn't. Second

01:29:33.33] the motion hopefully we can

01:29:34.73] get to a vote and keep moving

01:29:36.70] on here. Thanks. COUNCILMAN

01:29:37.97] Williams.

01:29:38.61] >> Thank you, PRESIDENT.

01:29:42.14] Correct person. Just, you

01:29:44.28] know, more than once. I've

01:29:45.41] come to your aid on this

01:29:45.95] particular issue in

01:29:49.35] conversations. So. I feel like

01:29:53.92] this is another way of getting

01:29:54.56] your contractors moving,

01:29:55.26] getting every brown the same

01:29:57.83] page. Again, we can't. Have a

01:29:58.53] crystal ball to see how we're

01:29:59.16] going to get from here to

01:30:04.40] there. I think intent is that

01:30:06.57] the deadline. I think your

01:30:07.34] goal deadline, you need to be

01:30:08.41] making money and putting

01:30:12.31] things back into your coffers.

01:30:14.21] And no, there's nothing that

01:30:15.21] precludes that. But I think

01:30:16.18] that really is the end times.

01:30:19.92] And if it's a way for you to

01:30:21.90] go to your people and say by

01:30:23.25] GOD, this is our deadline are

01:30:24.60] again, if you need me help you

01:30:24.72] in the background, I'll be

01:30:26.42] there for you. So just let me

01:30:29.13] know and keep me in live

01:30:31.86] COUNCILMAN Drizzly, thank you.

01:30:32.56] MADAM PRESIDENT. I think this

01:30:34.97] conversation has underscored

01:30:37.50] my concern and has has gotten

01:30:38.14] the out on the table. So

01:30:47.51] withdraw my amendment.

01:30:47.68] >> COUNCILMAN Donaldson.

01:30:48.35] >> Yeah, MADAM Pres. I just

01:30:48.88] want to express my

01:30:49.55] appreciation to the pro tem

01:30:50.22] for for that action. Thank

01:30:55.46] you.

01:30:58.56] >> Back to original. Motion. I

01:31:00.70] have a council I have a motion

01:31:02.70] for council Donaldson and a

01:31:15.11] COUNCILMAN From go. Let's go.

01:31:15.81] >> And the motion passes 9 to

01:31:19.25] 0. Thank you so much.

01:31:20.35] Appreciate it. Thank you.

01:31:21.52] Council moving on to item 10

01:31:23.32] be will the clerk please read

01:31:26.62] item 10 be into the record.

01:31:28.49] >> An ordinance amending

01:31:30.36] ordinance. 25 Dash 95 2026

01:31:31.99] Budget Appropriation Ordinance

01:31:32.43] for Supplemental

01:31:33.23] Appropriation.

01:31:35.33] >> To multiple funds for the

01:31:36.43] elimination of the NOVEMBER

01:31:37.14] 23rd 2026 scheduled furlough

01:31:40.71] day.

01:31:41.44] >> Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT,

01:31:45.38] if I MAY. First want to start

01:31:50.32] by part of the basis for this

01:31:51.21] is sells tax coming in higher

01:31:51.72] than anticipated. I wanted to

01:31:53.95] share with you the most recent

01:31:57.99] numbers which are from.

01:31:58.69] SEPTEMBER for transactions in

01:32:02.93] AUGUST. And sales and use tax

01:32:04.97] combined is up was up. 19.0 7%

01:32:07.77] for the month. That brings us

01:32:09.10] year-to-date up 6.4, 2%. So we

01:32:10.74] do believe that it is a

01:32:15.48] fiscally. Prudent decision and

01:32:16.55] we believe it is appropriate

01:32:20.85] for employees. We did notify

01:32:25.36] with a communication

01:32:26.46] yesterday. Explaining that we

01:32:28.79] have submitted this for city

01:32:32.96] Council approval. Emphasizing

01:32:33.63] that it does need to boost

01:32:36.71] amend the budget. But as part

01:32:36.77] of this proposal, we want to

01:32:38.77] clarify that we expect all

01:32:40.71] employees who would have been

01:32:41.41] furloughed and still wish to

01:32:42.14] take the day off, will be able

01:32:42.94] to do so and outlined the

01:32:45.71] different ways that would be

01:32:46.45] addressed or available and how

01:32:48.85] they wish We discuss this at

01:32:52.62] the work session. Happy to

01:32:53.25] answer any questions that

01:32:56.66] there MAY be.

01:32:57.76] >> COUNCILMAN Thank you. And

01:32:59.93] yes, we did receive the

01:33:00.66] communication that went out to

01:33:02.10] all in place yesterday

01:33:02.90] outlining based on whatever

01:33:06.77] would happen here today. There

01:33:07.70] is just one clarification. I

01:33:08.64] don't recall reading in that

01:33:10.57] communication lane and I asked

01:33:13.81] it last time. By the way, I'm

01:33:15.48] very supportive of this. I'm

01:33:16.65] grateful that, you know,

01:33:18.45] you're bringing it to our

01:33:19.55] attention that we have the

01:33:23.45] revenue to it a day back to

01:33:25.59] employees and payment. And I

01:33:26.29] think the vast majority of

01:33:28.59] employees are very, very happy

01:33:30.53] about that. The one very

01:33:31.23] specific. And it's probably a

01:33:35.40] very few people. But who MAY?

01:33:36.10] Still have plan to take that

01:33:38.97] day off and not necessarily

01:33:39.70] want to be paid or if they're

01:33:41.61] going to take it off to use

01:33:46.48] one of their paid time off

01:33:50.98] days. So in other words. Will

01:33:51.92] anybody who who doesn't want

01:33:53.82] to come in and still doesn't

01:33:56.32] want to be paid for that day

01:33:57.99] off. Is that an option that is

01:33:59.93] acceptable? Yes, okay. Then

01:34:01.56] you've got my vote. Thank you.

01:34:04.93] COUNCILMAN Line Weber.

01:34:09.74] >> I think just want revisit

01:34:12.44] the idea we know we we hire

01:34:13.51] these an employee of these

01:34:14.24] employees with an agreement of

01:34:17.78] what he should be paid and

01:34:18.48] they've set out a budget for

01:34:19.45] the year. They plan where they

01:34:22.15] could live. The plan. You know

01:34:23.32] how much food they can buy

01:34:23.99] that plan. What kind of car

01:34:27.22] they can afford and then the

01:34:28.89] city turned to them and said

01:34:29.56] we're going to take away 5

01:34:32.66] days of pay from you. They

01:34:34.73] didn't really have an option.

01:34:38.90] This was financial withdraw

01:34:43.14] from all of our employees. Was

01:34:43.84] a thing that I guess happens

01:34:49.95] in government. But in

01:34:50.82] business, I I just never heard

01:34:51.75] of something like this and

01:34:57.12] business. I is you know, and I

01:34:58.28] get the government MAY do this

01:35:02.59] all the time. But I'm just

01:35:03.53] again, I'm kind of

01:35:04.20] uncomfortable. I've always

01:35:05.63] been uncomfortable with the

01:35:07.93] idea that this furlough thing

01:35:09.34] was a way to save the city

01:35:10.14] money to get us through this

01:35:15.81] budget credit, which I

01:35:16.80] understand the situation and I

01:35:18.18] actually voted for the budget

01:35:21.85] last year. So but my point is.

01:35:24.23] I feel like we we stole 5 days

01:35:25.15] of pay from our employees or 7

01:35:29.49] days for some people. And and

01:35:31.89] in in essence, I I don't

01:35:32.23] think.

01:35:32.93] >> I don't think just saying,

01:35:36.63] hey, you get to work again.

01:35:37.90] It's like it's like, okay. But

01:35:39.40] so many people have planned to

01:35:40.14] take this day off. This is the

01:35:43.64] day before Thanksgiving. I

01:35:45.88] think half the employees are

01:35:49.98] planning to take the day I

01:35:50.68] don't think it easy. I don't

01:35:51.32] think it's going to be a

01:35:54.12] productive day for the city

01:35:54.79] and I would prefer to say,

01:36:01.89] hey. City employees. Take the

01:36:02.56] day off and we're going pay

01:36:04.46] you for that. That's what I

01:36:08.73] think we should do. I think

01:36:10.67] that honors our employees. I

01:36:14.64] think that elevates them. It's

01:36:16.48] a one-day pay thing. I don't

01:36:18.41] think we're losing as a city.

01:36:20.18] A lot in that. I'm not sure

01:36:21.11] how productive that day is

01:36:24.72] going to be typically the day

01:36:25.39] before Thanksgiving is not

01:36:26.72] what I would classify as the

01:36:31.97] most productive day of work.

01:36:33.93] And so for me, I just feel

01:36:35.23] like have we looked into the

01:36:38.93] idea of trying to to say to

01:36:41.47] our employees who have done a

01:36:43.24] great job of serving our city

01:36:46.94] and they have. Leaned into

01:36:51.35] this issue and said, yes, all.

01:36:54.55] How reduce my salary. Read all

01:36:56.12] reshape my budget for the year

01:37:00.16] and lose 5 to 7 days of pay.

01:37:02.98] In their way. We can kind of

01:37:02.86] like make a positive statement

01:37:04.76] out of this. That goes a

01:37:05.83] little bit farther than just

01:37:06.56] say, hey, you get to work some

01:37:10.20] more. And or hey, you plan

01:37:11.34] that vacation and now you have

01:37:14.51] to use one of your paid time

01:37:15.34] off. I just doesn't feel to

01:37:17.98] me. It doesn't feel right. And

01:37:19.28] so I think it's almost there.

01:37:22.20] I think we should take it all

01:37:24.78] the way there. And so that's

01:37:25.79] my proposal. And I don't know

01:37:30.72] if I can make a recommendation

01:37:37.30] or a motion or along those

01:37:38.37] lines. I don't know if that's

01:37:39.72] in in our purview. So I just

01:37:46.48] would like to ask our. Chief

01:37:47.81] of staff he can kind of

01:37:54.82] comment on Thank you. The

01:37:55.49] >> certainly if you wish to

01:37:59.66] make a motion to do that. Of

01:38:00.39] the administration, we'll work

01:38:05.46] to do that.

01:38:06.16] >> Woman, I would like to

01:38:11.17] craft a motion that. We take a

01:38:19.49] the date is the date. We take

01:38:21.68] note Amber 25th as a paid day

01:38:25.62] off for all city employees.

01:38:28.89] And how we do that can be

01:38:29.86] worked out through hr and all

01:38:30.76] that kind of stuff, right? I

01:38:32.89] don't know all those things

01:38:33.63] that city attorney to weigh in

01:38:34.33] on this. Well, it got on the

01:38:34.96] mic. Yes.

01:38:38.70] >> I wanted to clarify. There

01:38:40.23] were a number of employees

01:38:42.64] that were not affected by the

01:38:43.30] furloughs. So the way your

01:38:45.81] phrasing it a slightly

01:38:46.54] different. So if you're saying

01:38:49.61] for the employees that were

01:38:50.31] furloughed, yes, okay. I just

01:38:52.38] wanted that clarification.

01:38:57.42] >> Yeah. For the so let's I'm

01:39:00.16] very good making these on the

01:39:00.99] spot type deals and certainly

01:39:01.83] would love some suggestions if

01:39:04.36] other people are looking, I'd

01:39:08.70] like to make a motion that for

01:39:12.20] those employees that were

01:39:16.41] impacted by the furlough.

01:39:21.58] Particularly on NOVEMBER 20.

01:39:26.42] That we make paid day off for

01:39:29.45] them to no consequence to

01:39:30.59] using any of their paid off

01:39:31.29] the paydays or anything like

01:39:37.80] that. I think that's all say.

01:39:38.67] That the cut this week at the

01:39:42.10] idea, Sarah,

01:39:46.74] >> I do. So my short hand end

01:39:48.47] to take NOVEMBER 25th. 26 is a

01:39:49.38] paid day off for employees

01:39:50.49] that were furloughed on the

01:39:54.15] same day.

01:40:01.49] >> Has that treated to orange?

01:40:16.87] Ok, I'm looking for a second.

01:40:18.88] >> I'm considering, but I want

01:40:21.28] to hear my other council

01:40:21.98] members speak before I decide

01:40:22.75] to second. If that's okay, I'd

01:40:26.69] like to hear from from. Other

01:40:28.49] council members for tonight.

01:40:29.76] Get clarify Haitian from you.

01:40:31.59] So right now it's a furlough

01:40:33.46] day where everybody's off the

01:40:35.13] city's closed and it's not

01:40:38.56] paid. Are you asking that? I'm

01:40:39.33] going to call it a furlough

01:40:40.70] day where everybody's off. The

01:40:42.40] city is closed.

01:40:42.84] >> However, this budget

01:40:43.50] amendment money will go to

01:40:46.41] everybody getting paid. That

01:40:47.11] would be furloughed in in my

01:40:51.91] understanding that. Is that

01:40:52.51] does that help counsel

01:40:55.15] intention?

01:40:55.68] >> I was getting a

01:40:57.89] consultation for Michael. I'm

01:40:58.69] gonna go ahead. And second to

01:40:59.32] allow the conversation to

01:41:02.99] happen.

01:41:03.69] >> Okay. So we have a motion

01:41:05.13] from COUNCILMAN Line River and

01:41:05.86] a second from COUNCILMAN Hinge

01:41:07.90] him. And I will get to

01:41:11.10] council. Comments. I just want

01:41:14.77] to get this motion in. That

01:41:15.77] this budget, this budget

01:41:19.18] appropriation will go to.

01:41:20.48] >> a paid day for all

01:41:22.15] employees that were furloughed

01:41:25.65] 4 NOVEMBER 25th. Is that

01:41:26.28] correct? Okay. COUNCILMAN

01:41:29.59] Donaldson. Yeah, thanks, MADAM

01:41:29.99] PRESIDENT.

01:41:32.16] >> I think the original.

01:41:34.49] Ordinance isn't an ordinance.

01:41:40.30] Your wind is strikes the right

01:41:41.83] balance and the balance is

01:41:42.67] between being fiscally

01:41:44.77] responsible to the taxpayers,

01:41:47.78] right? So that we're not just

01:41:47.77] saying, hey, everybody, free

01:41:51.24] day off. Versus we do allow

01:41:54.95] that. We do allow are

01:41:56.38] valuable, see employees to

01:41:58.12] either continue on and take

01:41:59.15] the day off without pay. If

01:42:00.96] they would like today that to

01:42:01.66] do that or they can take the

01:42:04.39] day off. And be paid if they

01:42:07.96] use a leave day or they can

01:42:09.10] come in and work and not and

01:42:10.37] get paid and come into work.

01:42:15.91] So. You know, are it's easy to

01:42:16.54] be generous with someone

01:42:18.94] else's money. We should be

01:42:21.49] prudent. Also. And I think the

01:42:21.75] ordinance that came before us

01:42:22.35] today strikes the right

01:42:23.65] balance.

01:42:25.22] >> COUNCILMAN, rainy.

01:42:28.22] >> Thank you, MADAM PRESIDENT,

01:42:30.39] I want to go back to the chief

01:42:31.39] of staff. I would make a

01:42:34.96] making an assumption here.

01:42:35.63] >> That this was discussed,

01:42:39.46] this exact type of motion.

01:42:41.37] Let's discuss amongst the

01:42:42.77] administration. Can you give

01:42:44.50] us some insight into what the

01:42:45.17] feedback was based on that

01:42:50.14] conversation? Certainly it was

01:42:52.41] discussed as an option.

01:42:58.39] >> We believed that. I won't

01:43:02.69] speak for everybody. I

01:43:04.79] believed. So talk about what I

01:43:05.53] believed bringing this forward

01:43:07.46] today. With the

01:43:11.71] administration's approval. It

01:43:14.10] struck the correct balance. We

01:43:14.70] looked at the other. We

01:43:16.50] thought there would be.

01:43:18.97] Potential perception issues.

01:43:21.14] As has been pointed out. The

01:43:21.88] discussion. However, I also of

01:43:26.25] note. Strong arguments to be

01:43:30.12] made for the for that. We have

01:43:32.60] asked a lot from our

01:43:32.69] employees. They have come

01:43:37.99] through incredible fashion. We

01:43:41.30] could support that. Which is

01:43:42.37] why indicated to councilmember

01:43:44.97] line what room? We're fine

01:43:46.90] with doing either one of those

01:43:50.21] whichever council. Your

01:43:51.15] phrasing it as part of a

01:43:51.68] budget amendment, which is

01:43:53.17] what we're here today for. We

01:43:57.15] believes that. We will do

01:44:00.69] whatever of the 2 you ask us

01:44:01.26] to do.

01:44:01.86] >> Well, I do believe that the

01:44:03.82] amendment that was brought

01:44:04.72] forward for this particular

01:44:05.39] ordinance today does strike

01:44:06.98] the right balance. And maybe

01:44:08.66] I'm speaking in the very buys

01:44:10.36] manner because I was dead

01:44:11.70] leader several times over in a

01:44:13.63] government that had to do that

01:44:14.54] and make those announcements

01:44:16.17] and then bring people back in

01:44:19.68] and people who did have time

01:44:20.38] off and have to work directly

01:44:22.48] with them to make the right

01:44:23.48] decision. So I understand the

01:44:28.45] uniqueness of this. The heart

01:44:29.19] of this question that I really

01:44:31.65] want to ask is. Now you have

01:44:33.19] to go back into the budget.

01:44:35.33] You're going to find money

01:44:37.59] that you weren't planning on.

01:44:43.40] It's. In the amendment itself.

01:44:45.40] No. So that's not the case

01:44:46.14] here. Know based on the way

01:44:49.77] the New Amendment are, should

01:44:50.41] say the new motion that's

01:44:53.38] currently on the floor is word

01:44:54.25] it.

01:44:55.31] >> The new motion, as I

01:44:56.18] understand or meant the

01:44:56.88] proposed amendment to the Up

01:45:00.49] next. Does not change the

01:45:01.19] source of the revenue, which

01:45:05.36] the. What I just said. The

01:45:10.20] number 6.4% that we okay and

01:45:10.86] additional said that's not

01:45:13.50] change the current status.

01:45:14.39] Does not change funding. Set

01:45:17.47] my question is answered.

01:45:18.17] >> Chief of staff, you still

01:45:20.13] have up to do get your

01:45:21.81] questions answered. You still.

01:45:23.45] I apologize. You're fine.

01:45:26.45] COUNCILMAN

01:45:27.25] >> Yes, I think it's important

01:45:29.48] to strike the right balance.

01:45:36.43] And that is we took. 5 days of

01:45:38.32] work and pay away from our

01:45:40.36] employees. 7 days for several

01:45:43.90] others. So we've already

01:45:47.91] fiscally. Took money that we

01:45:51.51] had agreed in our employee

01:45:52.24] contract with them for them to

01:45:56.95] work for the city. We took out

01:45:59.99] of there personal finances. Fi

01:46:04.82] 4 days. I'm asking of the 5

01:46:07.64] days that we return it. So now

01:46:07.76] it's just 40. So we're still

01:46:13.70] taking 4 days. So there's 4

01:46:15.73] days of pay that that a

01:46:15.90] minimum of our staff is going

01:46:23.51] to be losing 6 days for

01:46:24.21] several others. The the ideas

01:46:27.31] this is a partial. I think

01:46:31.99] this is more than fair and and

01:46:34.79] balance considering we're not

01:46:35.42] talking about single day.

01:46:38.33] We're talking about 5 days for

01:46:41.16] all employees and for some 7

01:46:43.33] is what the original agreement

01:46:45.54] was. So I'm trying to find

01:46:47.17] some way to compensate for

01:46:51.61] that to make it. Balance. I

01:46:52.24] don't believe its balance

01:47:00.15] will. Johnson and Johnson?

01:47:03.46] Thanks again. MADAM PRESIDENT.

01:47:04.32] You know, there are a lot of

01:47:05.39] citizens out there struggling

01:47:08.65] with price of gasoline, small

01:47:08.76] business owners with with the

01:47:10.60] tax burden is on them.

01:47:11.43] >> So it will strike them is

01:47:14.67] is council is he's very

01:47:15.37] generous with or dollars with

01:47:20.44] their with their. Taxes. The

01:47:21.64] option that was brought before

01:47:26.25] us today before was amended.

01:47:26.95] The ordinance gave employees.

01:47:30.39] Hey, if you if you.

01:47:31.89] >> One thing, if you want to

01:47:35.26] work that day and not. Have

01:47:35.96] one last day of pay, you can

01:47:37.12] do that. If you want to use a

01:47:40.16] leave day, you can do that if

01:47:41.23] you want to just take the day

01:47:43.70] off with without pay, which is

01:47:44.97] what you are probably

01:47:45.67] originally planning was going

01:47:46.34] to happen. You can still do

01:47:50.17] that. I think that gives

01:47:53.61] employees a lot of options.

01:47:56.81] You know, I value employees

01:47:58.53] deeply but in the and were

01:47:58.85] paid by. We are our revenues

01:48:01.65] come from the citizens and the

01:48:02.35] citizens have to believe the

01:48:05.22] council is very a prudent with

01:48:09.36] their money. And the idea

01:48:10.16] that, well, we'll just give

01:48:10.86] everybody a day off now fully

01:48:14.70] paid. I think is going to is

01:48:18.34] going Send the wrong message

01:48:23.48] in this time of a really tight

01:48:25.58] finances for all citizens. Its

01:48:26.71] can. It's how city governments

01:48:28.52] kick sort of bad rap if

01:48:32.39] they're not connected to what?

01:48:33.58] Regular citizens are going

01:48:37.96] through. So I don't support

01:48:39.32] the amendment. We hit by

01:48:40.13] bringing this ordinance. We

01:48:43.10] have found a way to alleviate

01:48:44.30] that. The economic stress of

01:48:47.40] of not getting paid for that

01:48:48.10] day. You simply take a day of

01:48:48.80] leave or your you come in and

01:48:49.54] work.

01:48:53.94] >> COUNCILMAN Gold. Thank you.

01:48:56.11] MADAM PRESIDENT, while I was

01:48:56.71] initially supportive of

01:48:59.18] ordinance as it was written.

01:49:00.32] >> Now that Councilmember

01:49:02.62] line, where has brought this

01:49:04.66] change forward? I'm

01:49:05.69] reconsidering and I think that

01:49:06.32] when it comes to furlough

01:49:11.73] days. People squeezing more

01:49:15.37] work into last time. So I

01:49:16.67] think, you know, we MAY call

01:49:17.30] we MAY say that there's a

01:49:17.97] furlough day, but the work

01:49:19.71] still needs to be done. And we

01:49:21.57] have so many folks who are

01:49:23.74] been asked to do less. Excuse

01:49:27.31] me, do more with less. And I

01:49:28.41] think it's a rare opportunity

01:49:30.28] that we get to give this kind

01:49:33.95] of appreciation. Monetary Lee

01:49:36.61] to our city employees. So

01:49:37.95] while there are some things I

01:49:38.23] do agree with Councilmember

01:49:38.89] Donaldson, I will I will be

01:49:40.60] supporting this to support our

01:49:41.66] city employees.

01:49:44.36] >> COUNCILMAN Hand Jim. Thank

01:49:45.20] you. Well, what a

01:49:46.30] conversation. I don't know how

01:49:47.40] many city employees are

01:49:47.67] listening right now that.

01:49:50.31] Quite a few. I hope what

01:49:50.94] they're hearing from this

01:49:54.18] conversation. Is that we care

01:49:57.38] about them and we appreciate

01:49:58.52] them. And we know that this

01:49:58.61] has been a very, very

01:50:02.89] difficult year. For city

01:50:04.49] employees who I want to uplift

01:50:07.76] and I want to say there are

01:50:08.29] regular citizens to

01:50:10.36] councilmember Donaldson. We

01:50:14.33] all are. And while some MAY

01:50:16.10] say, well, I don't get my

01:50:18.97] employer to do this for me.

01:50:19.64] They're not working for the

01:50:25.84] city of Colorado Springs. It's

01:50:26.91] tough, right? I mean, I get I

01:50:30.88] get the points here and I get.

01:50:31.55] What the chief of staff has

01:50:34.45] presented and trying to really

01:50:36.46] we've a very fine line and

01:50:37.52] deal with folks who can't take

01:50:39.49] the day off because they have

01:50:42.63] to protect the city. They have

01:50:43.33] to be available for

01:50:47.84] emergencies. So if this is

01:50:52.31] cost neutral. It is cost

01:50:53.14] neutral and Im people have

01:50:55.54] been forced to take time off

01:50:56.24] that they expected to be paid

01:50:57.58] for and work over this last

01:51:02.38] year. And so I am going vote

01:51:03.25] for this amendment. I really I

01:51:06.96] mean, this conversation has

01:51:07.66] genuinely I've been listening

01:51:10.79] to every single bit of input

01:51:13.10] and I'm I'm gonna vote. Yes.

01:51:15.10] So we're already just regular

01:51:15.73] citizens. We need to show

01:51:17.57] appreciation to our city staff

01:51:19.64] and I sure hope this passes.

01:51:25.24] COUNCILMAN Williams. Thank

01:51:26.18] you.

01:51:27.28] >> First a lot of times that

01:51:29.18] stuck in the middle on this

01:51:29.61] one truly in the middle

01:51:30.38] because the money is coming

01:51:34.24] from the citizens and the nuts

01:51:34.69] going to the employees and

01:51:35.29] you're trying to strike

01:51:38.36] delicate balance.

01:51:39.26] >> I know lots of the same

01:51:41.16] place and I know they know me

01:51:43.46] and as you know, Nancy said,

01:51:44.13] love respect and appreciate

01:51:47.17] them. All.

01:51:50.17] >> And I think being able to

01:51:50.97] give back at least one

01:51:51.64] furlough day is absolutely

01:51:55.41] fabulous and wonderful.

01:51:56.64] >> And if this for-profit

01:52:00.15] company and I was the ceo, I

01:52:00.75] completely concur with

01:52:04.52] Councilmember line murder. But

01:52:05.22] that's not the diamond right

01:52:07.42] now. And it really is looking

01:52:09.12] not, you know, both sides and

01:52:09.76] where the money is coming

01:52:10.43] from. And all of the people

01:52:12.29] involved.

01:52:13.66] >> I will not be supporting

01:52:15.43] the amendment, but that

01:52:17.53] doesn't mean I don't support

01:52:18.77] the employees. And the voted

01:52:19.47] for the budget. And the best

01:52:23.14] part is. At moments. The

01:52:25.14] proposal is known days and

01:52:28.88] arrays and 2027. I'm excited

01:52:29.58] for that. And we're going to

01:52:33.49] talk about that on Thursday.

01:52:34.52] >> COUNCILMAN Casey.

01:52:36.39] >> Thank you. MADAM Wayne

01:52:37.93] about committee see employees

01:52:40.36] were not subject to furlough.

01:52:41.98] And we'll cover employees. Are

01:52:48.57] those. 2000

01:52:52.24] >> 2000, I am told by. 2000

01:52:55.71] were not subject were subject.

01:52:58.55] 2000 were not subject. So. Law

01:53:01.92] enforcement, right? So most of

01:53:03.78] Public MAY know council knows

01:53:05.25] this. Most of our employees of

01:53:05.92] the city are in police and

01:53:08.39] fire. And so those do not stop

01:53:12.69] functioning. Just because

01:53:13.83] money is tight. They must

01:53:16.43] continue to operate. And so

01:53:17.37] that is the bulk of the

01:53:20.74] employees who are not subject

01:53:20.84] to the for those who were

01:53:21.54] talking about the other 1000

01:53:23.24] employees. That were subject

01:53:30.88] to it. But yeah, it is.

01:53:32.15] >> So presumably they work

01:53:32.78] hard and sacrifice in the

01:53:34.39] service the city just as the

01:53:35.29] ones that we're going to be

01:53:39.72] furloughed work or do.

01:53:44.33] >> Yes, that is Talked to a

01:53:45.69] number of them. Yes, they work

01:53:47.47] very hard. And so their pay

01:53:49.54] was not affected. Hours for

01:53:54.34] not affected.

01:53:55.51] >> You know, just concerned

01:53:57.28] there be a perception that

01:53:58.55] their service is less a Bible.

01:53:59.28] We're going to get a day off

01:54:00.31] to one group of city

01:54:02.28] employees, but not all city

01:54:02.98] employees and that that's my

01:54:05.42] concern with agree with

01:54:09.29] restoring the furlough, as you

01:54:09.99] know, has proposed initially

01:54:10.66] today. I don't necessarily

01:54:11.99] agree with the, you know, you

01:54:14.13] know, make it a paid day off

01:54:14.86] for some employees and not all

01:54:20.40] employers.

01:54:23.81] >> COUNCILMAN Hand

01:54:25.38] >> Thank you. I I hear your

01:54:26.80] question. Councilmember Casey

01:54:30.95] and you know, our our sworn.

01:54:31.58] Officers who are there to

01:54:36.22] protect us. Take that job,

01:54:36.89] knowing that that that is a

01:54:39.76] part of the the work. I think

01:54:42.39] one of the ways that we can

01:54:43.33] show those members of our city

01:54:46.66] staff. Is to look at the

01:54:49.38] revenue we need to bring into

01:54:49.63] the city to raise their

01:54:54.91] salaries. And to give them the

01:54:58.24] pay that they deserve. We're

01:55:00.88] not all equal in that sense. I

01:55:01.75] mean, I think there's equity

01:55:06.49] possible here. And there's

01:55:07.19] there's different ways to get

01:55:08.52] that. And so I think what

01:55:09.76] we're for finally, what I'm

01:55:10.46] hearing, we're finally coming

01:55:14.90] to. Little bit. He says I'm

01:55:15.46] hearing it is public

01:55:16.20] perception. And and and values

01:55:19.67] and how you how you see how

01:55:25.11] you treat people equally. And

01:55:25.97] use tax payer money. I mean,

01:55:26.68] those those are those are the

01:55:27.31] values that we're talking

01:55:28.34] about here. And there isn't

01:55:31.28] honestly. Yes, isn't right

01:55:33.20] know isn't right. They're

01:55:34.78] both. They're both right. But

01:55:39.46] unfortunately. In a

01:55:40.19] legislative body is a binary

01:55:42.23] choice. I hope now we can get

01:55:45.93] to prison.

01:55:46.60] >> COUNCILMAN Line Yeah, I

01:55:49.97] just wanted to reiterate

01:55:51.70] again, we're not talking about

01:55:53.20] a single day. I know that

01:55:56.71] >> This initiative, the of the

01:55:57.34] it's before us is talking

01:56:00.78] about a single day.

01:56:01.81] >> My

01:56:02.82] >> consideration is that we've

01:56:07.89] already of taken 4 days away

01:56:10.95] from 40's of pay out our

01:56:12.73] employees, budget. So they've

01:56:17.43] lost this year, 4 days of pay.

01:56:18.37] At We're talking about remedy

01:56:20.17] that. So it's not 5. Which is

01:56:25.51] great. But they lost 4 days of

01:56:29.68] pay. They still lost 4 days of

01:56:33.82] pay. And that's my concern and

01:56:34.55] other employees of last 6 days

01:56:39.16] of pay.

01:56:41.39] >> So looking at is you have

01:56:43.36] to look at the whole. Not just

01:56:47.43] one day one day. I probably.

01:56:48.13] >> you know, I probably take

01:56:50.20] back with what I'm saying. But

01:56:51.14] the thing they've already

01:56:57.74] given. 4 days of pay was they?

01:57:00.16] They need to make a living and

01:57:04.18] and when the furlough.

01:57:05.75] Decision came down, there

01:57:06.59] weren't employees celebrating

01:57:09.19] that, I get to lose 5 days. A

01:57:12.29] worker, 7 days, a work, not a

01:57:12.69] single employee celebrated

01:57:18.13] that day. And so I'm trying to

01:57:18.93] offset And really I'm just

01:57:22.27] talking about the employees

01:57:22.90] that were affected by the

01:57:27.18] furlough days. So our citizens

01:57:28.98] have already gained quite a

01:57:30.35] bit by these employees making

01:57:34.12] that sacrifice and losing 4

01:57:36.99] days of pay. Let's not make it

01:57:37.65] 5 is what I'm trying to get

01:57:38.32] Let's let's try do a little

01:57:40.39] bit more to kind of recover

01:57:44.66] the loss of 4 days of pay.

01:57:47.70] >> COUNCILMAN Drizzly, thanks,

01:57:49.70] MADAM PRESIDENT. My question,

01:57:50.72] Trey, I don't mean put you on

01:57:50.77] the spot, but I think it's a

01:57:54.90] question for you.

01:57:54.94] >> This goes back to a

01:57:55.67] conversation. I think the unit

01:58:00.34] had maybe last week. The

01:58:01.83] appropriating amounts for each

01:58:03.35] of the departments is

01:58:07.72] relatively small. And I'll

01:58:09.79] give you example. Sea otter,

01:58:11.28] $4300 City Council. 3700 $1.

01:58:11.86] There are some that are bigger

01:58:15.19] for sure. Police 58,000. But

01:58:17.23] in the police budget of

01:58:18.37] 100 million dollars, right?

01:58:22.47] 58,000 is a very small amount.

01:58:23.17] I think the conversation that

01:58:26.77] you and I had was. Regardless

01:58:30.68] of this amendment, what if the

01:58:31.38] budget appropriation the the

01:58:31.98] amendment to the budget

01:58:34.78] doesn't go through. Could you

01:58:36.42] find these dollars within

01:58:37.12] these budgets? And my

01:58:41.16] assertion is that I think you

01:58:42.16] and your assertion, I don't

01:58:42.86] put words in your mouth. Was

01:58:47.46] that? I'll just ask you, what

01:58:48.69] is your assertion about

01:58:49.36] whether or not you could find

01:58:49.80] the dollars within each of

01:58:51.80] these budgets? Should we not

01:58:53.54] approve either the amended

01:58:55.87] version or the the base Budget

01:58:57.71] Amendment. Okay.Hank you for

01:58:59.21] that. Good morning. Sherri

01:59:00.15] McDaniels City chief financial

01:59:01.78] officer.

01:59:05.45] >> And I think that. What

01:59:07.99] would end up happening is that

01:59:09.79] some departments MAY be able

01:59:13.86] to handle the amount that it

01:59:15.39] would take to cover the

01:59:16.99] additional day for those that

01:59:17.36] are subject to the furlough

01:59:20.77] and then others. Likely would

01:59:24.67] not. So the smaller budgets.

01:59:25.41] And I'm thinking and I don't

01:59:26.77] mean to come out. But city

01:59:29.31] clerk, city auditor. Perhaps

01:59:30.48] even council, if they don't

01:59:32.55] have turnover in there

01:59:34.45] departments throughout the

01:59:36.68] year, then their salaries and

01:59:37.35] benefits would be tracking

01:59:39.75] closely to budget. And so if

01:59:40.56] we did not amend the budget

01:59:42.59] and put the budget back for

01:59:45.49] that day of pay, then they MAY

01:59:47.20] run over their budget. So I

01:59:50.87] think it would be quite and

01:59:51.60] didn't upon the department. So

01:59:52.30] the smaller ones I think have

01:59:54.50] less ability to handle it. And

01:59:56.43] then the larger MAY have more

02:00:00.21] ability to handle it because

02:00:01.31] there would be had been

02:00:03.21] statistically speaking.

02:00:03.88] There's likelihood of more

02:00:05.12] turnover in those departments.

02:00:07.55] So I think it would depend on

02:00:09.52] the department. And so just

02:00:10.52] thinking of the 2 smallest

02:00:11.94] departments that you

02:00:11.76] mentioned, the city auditor

02:00:12.39] and legislative services.

02:00:16.23] >> Both have had staff

02:00:18.23] turnover in 2026. And both of

02:00:18.90] Haddonfield positions for a

02:00:23.87] period of time. So I would

02:00:24.74] assume that there is room

02:00:25.94] within those budget. I haven't

02:00:26.97] asked those directors, but I

02:00:27.61] would assume there's our

02:00:28.31] dollars within those budgets

02:00:31.54] that absorb this. And I

02:00:32.21] regardless of whether we go

02:00:34.35] with councilmember line

02:00:36.12] members amendment or or the

02:00:39.24] underlying budget allocation.

02:00:40.32] I'm just not comfortable with

02:00:42.16] amending a budget when I'm

02:00:43.52] quite certain that the dollars

02:00:44.29] are available within the

02:00:46.73] budget to do what you want to

02:00:47.80] do anyway. Is that reasonable

02:00:53.67] assumption? I think that the

02:00:54.37] assumption of whether or not

02:00:55.75] there's going to be funding,

02:00:57.31] they're not.

02:00:58.57] >> I don't have the answer to

02:01:00.18] that. But if you don't feel

02:01:01.31] like it would be appropriate

02:01:04.21] to amend the budget, then.

02:01:07.25] That's my choice. Yeah, that's

02:01:09.92] one of those are So what

02:01:13.12] happens if a budget, if a

02:01:13.96] department exceeds their

02:01:19.13] allocated budget fiscal year?

02:01:20.47] >> The budget is for the

02:01:23.97] budget appropriations

02:01:24.64] ordinance. It is. But it by

02:01:26.90] what we call appropriating.

02:01:31.91] Buckets. I guess. Then. That's

02:01:32.48] what the city council

02:01:33.95] appropriates 2 in the general

02:01:36.87] fund and then for every other

02:01:37.42] fund, the appropriation as is

02:01:39.49] at the fund level. So for the

02:01:43.59] general fund. It MAY or MAY

02:01:44.63] not push some of the

02:01:46.69] appropriating departments over

02:01:48.33] budget and then we wrap it up

02:01:49.43] to the general fund as a

02:01:52.87] whole. And so if there were

02:01:53.60] sufficient savings across the

02:01:54.30] entirety of the general fund

02:01:55.87] to cover the amount. Then the

02:01:59.44] fund would not go over, but

02:02:00.81] there MAY be some cases where

02:02:02.61] and appropriating area would

02:02:04.51] go over. So it's really not

02:02:05.72] major issue as long as the

02:02:06.38] total amount of the general

02:02:07.48] fund is not exceeded.

02:02:14.36] >> Correct. Great. Thanks.

02:02:15.76] >> the motion from COUNCILMAN

02:02:16.43] Line River in a second from

02:02:18.23] COUNCILMAN Hand, Jim.

02:02:24.70] >> To amend the NOVEMBER 25th.

02:02:26.80] As a paid day off for

02:02:27.21] employees that were planned to

02:02:29.94] be furloughed on the same day.

02:02:44.42] >> Let's but

02:02:44.76] and the motion

02:02:49.90] passes 5 to 4. Moving on to

02:02:52.93] item 11, a well. The clerk,

02:02:56.27] please read. Can

02:02:56.90] >> That was the motion to

02:03:00.46] amend.

02:03:00.74] >> So we need to vote on the

02:03:05.85] amended main motion.

02:03:11.69] >> Do we?

02:03:12.36] >> It was an amendment. So,

02:03:13.76] yeah, we still have to vote on

02:03:14.16] ordinance.

02:03:17.73] >> So motion from. Gold

02:03:21.73] Council meeting gold and

02:03:22.87] >> the still councilmember re

02:03:25.14] need to vote on the motion as

02:03:28.64] amended

02:03:29.31] >> So I had a motion on the

02:03:33.85] floor. And we amended motion.

02:03:36.55] To a completely different

02:03:41.92] motion which passed. So how do

02:03:42.69] we pass that one and then vote

02:03:43.26] on another one that's

02:03:46.89] completely different.

02:03:48.96] >> Can you explain that stuffy

02:03:49.70] Boster City attorney? See your

02:03:50.36] back on the main motion as

02:03:53.27] amended. But you haven't voted

02:03:55.73] on the main motion. You just

02:03:57.44] voted on the motion meant to

02:03:59.34] amend the motion which passed

02:04:00.81] through. Then it feels like

02:04:01.51] you're voting twice that you

02:04:03.78] really back to the main

02:04:04.11] motion.

02:04:04.78] >> Chris, we've amended the

02:04:07.75] main motion to now being my

02:04:08.45] numbers motion. And we're on

02:04:11.25] our way to voting. Something

02:04:11.89] that's a move that That's

02:04:14.28] correct possibly.

02:04:15.26] >> The one question I do have

02:04:16.33] on that, MADAM PRESIDENT is

02:04:19.76] because the initial motion was

02:04:22.20] madey councilmember gold who

02:04:26.40] just voted on the new motion.

02:04:27.54] Do we need to withdraw that

02:04:29.74] motion in revolt again?

02:04:32.68] >> COUNCILMAN, Gold and you

02:04:32.98] just.

02:04:36.58] >> Can't defer Sarah.

02:04:41.24] >> So this is. Like any other

02:04:43.12] amended motion. You voted on

02:04:47.26] the amendment which past. You

02:04:48.49] now have the motion back on

02:04:52.30] the floor The regular motion

02:04:56.14] with this amended language.

02:04:59.44] Pretty easy. And that is. Do

02:05:01.12] away with the furlough today,

02:05:03.14] which was the main motion that

02:05:07.61] now includes an on line, so to

02:05:09.72] speak. That says that.

02:05:12.82] >> Would be. Payday for those

02:05:17.26] that. Were to be furloughed.

02:05:17.99] >> So can you say that motion,

02:05:25.90] please? So would be to move

02:05:26.90] approval of the supplemental

02:05:27.64] provision of the General Fund.

02:05:30.11] This etf, Pss tm tops funding

02:05:31.44] to eliminate the NOVEMBER

02:05:36.65] 25th. 26 furlough day. And 2.

02:05:37.38] Boy, I'm paraphrasing here and

02:05:41.62] to state that that. Original

02:05:42.55] furlough day would now be

02:05:43.25] unpaid furlough day for those

02:05:44.62] individuals who are intended

02:05:50.86] to be furloughed on that day.

02:05:55.87] >> motion would still. Would

02:05:56.47] still support that paid

02:05:58.34] furloughed, a correct? Okay.

02:05:59.17] Then I looked I was staying

02:06:00.77] with that motion. Thank you.

02:06:05.28] >> Let's remind members.

02:06:08.42] >> Yes, I I I would just kind

02:06:09.25] of intrigued COUNCILMAN

02:06:12.92] Drizzly questioning about do

02:06:13.59] we really need to amend the

02:06:19.66] budget? And and so I'm I'm

02:06:23.60] willing to entertain

02:06:24.83] discussion maybe do a Second

02:06:25.50] Amendment that says without

02:06:28.40] amending the budget.

02:06:29.76] >> or what? What would you

02:06:32.51] suggest? Council and risley?

02:06:36.91] Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT.

02:06:39.15] Yeah, I that's the crux of the

02:06:39.85] situation for Council members

02:06:41.79] that I don't. I think the

02:06:45.46] administration could do what

02:06:46.39] they wished on that day.

02:06:48.46] Regardless of council's

02:06:49.19] actions, because I think the

02:06:52.53] dollar will exist within the

02:06:53.30] budget to accomplish that as

02:06:58.10] it stands now, the risk is

02:07:01.84] pointed out the risk is some

02:07:02.51] of the departments will be

02:07:03.88] able to absorb that without

02:07:05.91] any problem. Some of them MAY

02:07:06.65] struggle to absorb that. But

02:07:07.31] as long as the general Fund

02:07:10.65] balance is not exceeded. It's

02:07:15.62] all that. And the the intent I

02:07:16.46] believe in, can't speak for

02:07:17.12] the administration, but the

02:07:20.46] intent here, I believe, is to

02:07:21.30] put belt and suspenders on the

02:07:23.36] budget to ensure that none of

02:07:25.23] the departments go over their

02:07:25.90] budgets and to ensure that

02:07:26.50] there is no risk of the

02:07:28.10] general fund being exceeded

02:07:32.34] it. Obviously can't guarantee

02:07:33.46] that that would be the case.

02:07:35.48] But I can tell you, based on

02:07:36.18] my analysis of the individual

02:07:36.85] departments and of where we

02:07:39.28] stand with the overall general

02:07:41.12] fund, that there is plenty of

02:07:44.19] money in the current budget as

02:07:46.59] it stands to absorb. This

02:07:47.29] shouldn't something that the

02:07:48.29] administration decides to move

02:07:48.96] forward So that's what it

02:07:51.83] boils down to.

02:07:52.90] >> Well, I mean, would you be

02:07:54.87] willing to put that forth and

02:07:56.63] some kind of amendment

02:07:58.64] language because I love to

02:07:59.87] second that motion. I think

02:08:01.74] that that we we we should just

02:08:02.61] find the dollars within what

02:08:03.57] we currently have. I think we

02:08:05.78] could. That's what you're

02:08:06.58] suggesting. That's what I'm

02:08:07.28] suggesting in the easy answer

02:08:08.41] is just simply to vote no on

02:08:10.15] This budget amendment. But

02:08:14.29] then we don't get to vote for

02:08:16.82] the employees getting a

02:08:17.72] benefit getting the least one

02:08:22.60] of their days back. To see

02:08:23.80] much. The piece that I'm

02:08:25.30] looking for is to say thank

02:08:26.77] you, employees for Mike giving

02:08:30.84] part of your salary so we can,

02:08:31.44] you know, overcome our

02:08:36.15] financial loss. So I think the

02:08:37.15] administration could choose to

02:08:38.21] do that regardless of the

02:08:40.53] action of counsel. I think

02:08:41.68] that the mayor's office chief

02:08:43.15] of staff could simply make the

02:08:43.92] decision that.

02:08:44.62] >> We've heard the discussion

02:08:48.62] that council has had. We think

02:08:49.69] that it is appropriate to give

02:08:50.69] a paid day off to employees to

02:08:51.26] thank them for their

02:08:53.60] dedication and service. And we

02:08:54.43] think we can do that within

02:08:55.70] the current budget as it

02:08:57.10] stands right now.

02:09:00.74] >> Can we make any kind of

02:09:02.81] well, you've made the

02:09:04.78] statement, but can we make any

02:09:05.44] kind of official statement?

02:09:07.31] That's what I'm asking. Is

02:09:09.68] there any I mean, we we have

02:09:12.42] to do a proclamation to hold

02:09:16.32] to doing something I would

02:09:16.99] defer to the attorney, but

02:09:19.36] this is a budget amendment.

02:09:22.20] >> Ordinance. And so I think

02:09:23.10] that's all we would legally be

02:09:23.80] doing through this process is

02:09:26.63] amending the budget. I don't

02:09:28.40] believe that this is the

02:09:30.27] appropriate platform to convey

02:09:31.67] councils desire or intent

02:09:34.80] relative to supporting the the

02:09:36.41] city staff that would likely

02:09:37.15] be a resolution or be some

02:09:37.81] other action. And I see the

02:09:40.53] attorney nodding her head so I

02:09:40.75] mean, not being attorney, but

02:09:43.29] apparently I have some grasp

02:09:47.60] of this. You can like facial

02:09:47.72] expressions you're smiling,

02:09:51.56] yes. So maybe that answers

02:09:52.33] your question.

02:09:54.63] >> Well, I'm I mean,

02:09:56.83] >> I actually like support

02:10:00.54] that, but I I would hope that

02:10:02.41] our mayor would keep to his

02:10:03.21] commitments and find a way to

02:10:07.50] make this kind of happened

02:10:08.21] right eye. And in to what

02:10:09.35] you've stated and what we've

02:10:11.65] heard that that's very

02:10:15.62] conceivable, very possible. I

02:10:16.49] mean, again, I think that

02:10:17.16] we've talked about striking

02:10:20.16] the right balance right? Do we

02:10:22.19] really need to increase the

02:10:24.56] budget to compensate for that?

02:10:27.80] I guess I I guess I would

02:10:29.30] chief of staff if you'd like

02:10:34.31] to weigh in on this and

02:10:38.35] >> thank you, sir. Paid

02:10:39.51] holidays are set forth in the

02:10:39.75] personal which is a document

02:10:42.78] that is approved by council.

02:10:43.92] So the administration MAY be

02:10:45.22] other ways we could

02:10:49.52] conceivably get there. But

02:10:50.16] awarding additional paid

02:10:53.96] holiday is not something. That

02:10:54.60] that would contradict the

02:10:55.23] personnel manual that is

02:10:56.73] approved by council. And I

02:10:57.47] could see this being a problem

02:10:59.34] because of

02:11:02.27] >> Two-thirds of our staff

02:11:03.51] didn't get for right write.

02:11:06.14] And so then you get into a

02:11:07.31] number of issues. The reason

02:11:07.98] we believed the appropriate

02:11:08.81] thing to do

02:11:13.42] >> was a budget amendment. Is

02:11:15.29] twofold. First, the furloughs

02:11:15.92] were clearly part of the

02:11:16.62] discussions with council last

02:11:21.89] time. Getting huge, approve a

02:11:23.33] budget. We're we specifically

02:11:23.60] said we were going to

02:11:26.77] furlough. And then without

02:11:30.57] council approval doing a bait

02:11:32.77] and switch essentially. Is

02:11:36.98] not. The type of partnership

02:11:41.15] that I believe is appropriate.

02:11:41.82] That's why we went forward

02:11:42.45] with the budget amendment

02:11:43.95] because it was clearly part of

02:11:45.25] the budget discussions. Now,

02:11:45.95] if I'm wrong, tell me because

02:11:49.39] I wasn't here at that. But I

02:11:50.95] remember seeing articles and

02:11:55.30] other information about. It

02:11:56.53] was as I look I've done my

02:12:03.34] online. I give you that. When

02:12:04.61] I see other informations are

02:12:06.84] reporting and other things.

02:12:07.58] Furloughs were clearly part of

02:12:15.39] the budget. The other reason

02:12:16.42] is there even beyond the the

02:12:17.42] issues for particular

02:12:18.49] department? We did not know

02:12:19.22] everything that will happen in

02:12:22.99] the next 4 months. Because

02:12:23.70] what we've got is that as the

02:12:28.33] AUGUST information. We do know

02:12:30.40] is there are sufficient funds

02:12:30.74] that have come in already in

02:12:31.40] the first 8 months to cover

02:12:37.61] this. So what happens if you

02:12:39.58] approve the amendment and

02:12:40.28] there's under spending? Well,

02:12:41.61] just like always that rolls

02:12:45.59] back to council to review. And

02:12:46.22] so there is not a risk in

02:12:51.93] doing it that way. The risk of

02:12:53.90] in addition members, not just

02:12:54.93] general fund furloughs are

02:12:55.60] also affecting some of the

02:12:56.56] other funds. Those we can

02:13:00.77] switch money back and And if

02:13:01.84] there were significant things

02:13:02.54] that might occur, that might

02:13:07.78] necessitate. And predicting

02:13:09.49] the weather in Colorado is not

02:13:10.75] something that I'm qualified

02:13:11.75] to do, but I certainly see

02:13:12.45] reports indicating that there

02:13:14.15] will be. Potential for

02:13:19.36] increased know. Again, there

02:13:20.36] are impacts of all of that. So

02:13:22.56] knowing everything that will

02:13:23.93] come forward, we believe this

02:13:26.69] was the more prudent way to go

02:13:27.50] forward. And again, if it

02:13:28.20] turns out that there were the

02:13:32.27] additional funds. It just goes

02:13:32.94] back to council for Re

02:13:34.11] appropriation motion. As you

02:13:37.71] see some time, APRIL MAY. And

02:13:38.41] when we usually do the Ripper

02:13:46.25] provisions. Yeah. So would

02:13:46.95] just go to the fund balance.

02:13:51.26] So this is a less risky method

02:13:52.33] to go forward in this fashion.

02:13:52.96] That's why we chose this

02:13:55.70] method. Okay. I thank you for

02:13:58.23] that answer. And I.

02:13:59.83] >> I think I agree with it. I

02:14:00.70] do agree with it. I think that

02:14:01.37] we probably should move

02:14:05.27] forward on We just always need

02:14:05.87] to provide. We are the

02:14:10.35] control. Of the budget and

02:14:11.45] spending. And I think we

02:14:12.15] always should be aware of how

02:14:16.56] we spend our dollars in this

02:14:17.35] motion where clearly stating

02:14:21.96] that we had to take money from

02:14:24.53] our employees. In order to

02:14:28.27] meet the budget this year. And

02:14:28.97] I think we just need to give

02:14:32.54] some back. All right. Thank

02:14:35.54] you.

02:14:36.17] >> COUNCILMAN Casey.

02:14:36.91] >> Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT,

02:14:37.54] the chief of staff to the

02:14:38.48] questions I had.

02:14:43.75] >> COUNCILMAN Williams.

02:14:44.42] >> Snyder for almost added

02:14:46.72] another wrench in this.

02:14:49.69] Probably for the city

02:14:52.43] attorney. So given that day is

02:14:54.65] off our official and the

02:14:57.10] manual and as the chief of

02:14:58.33] staff stand, the mayor cannot

02:15:01.94] arbitrarily change that. Are

02:15:03.91] you comfortable with how this

02:15:05.78] is being presented? So it

02:15:06.91] doesn't necessarily have to

02:15:10.31] bring the p pm Manuel and to

02:15:12.31] play and it checks all the

02:15:12.95] boxes and has, you know,

02:15:18.95] again. These employees do that

02:15:19.69] they're off these in place, do

02:15:21.66] not. And essentially passes

02:15:22.53] all of your legal tests and

02:15:26.13] whatever sure, a Thank you.

02:15:27.93] Councilmember Williams,

02:15:28.50] Stephanie Foster City

02:15:29.30] attorney. I think defer to the

02:15:33.94] chief financial officer.

02:15:36.57] >> Cheri McDaniel, city chief

02:15:37.31] financial officer and it would

02:15:39.58] not be a holiday day. So we

02:15:42.38] would have to handle it.

02:15:44.78] >> For peril purposes for tax

02:15:45.35] purposes and to be in

02:15:48.49] compliance with the policy and

02:15:50.12] procedural Manuel. It would

02:15:50.99] not be handled a holiday. It

02:15:54.97] would be a word time. And what

02:15:54.73] would end up happening is

02:16:00.83] that. That day would be as

02:16:01.57] previously planned a day where

02:16:05.77] the city is closed and the but

02:16:08.80] the people who are. To

02:16:15.32] furlough. Would that? Handle

02:16:16.22] that day as they had planned

02:16:19.25] to for this period. And then

02:16:21.94] anyone who is subject to

02:16:23.63] furlough the city was still be

02:16:26.00] closed. They would not work

02:16:27.53] and it would be handled as

02:16:29.70] technically we call it a war

02:16:34.27] time. And then that makes it

02:16:36.31] pensionable. So it acts like

02:16:37.41] regular time, but it would not

02:16:40.15] be an official city holiday so

02:16:42.55] that we are in compliance with

02:16:43.85] the pm.

02:16:43.75] >> Okay. And then just one

02:16:46.32] question. So. So kind of

02:16:49.19] clothes that live but also

02:16:50.12] means.

02:16:51.92] >> The mayor is not aligned

02:16:52.62] arbitrary arbitrarily declare

02:16:56.33] award time as well as paid

02:16:56.96] time off as well as holidays

02:16:57.63] as well all of those pieces

02:17:04.70] are. Anything feels like

02:17:06.77] >> I think this charade, but I

02:17:07.11] my understanding is there is

02:17:08.21] some provision, but it's not

02:17:10.71] arbitrary. Councilmember one

02:17:13.51] But there is some I mean,

02:17:14.35] without City Council and

02:17:15.54] father is some provision for

02:17:17.32] war time without city come

02:17:22.46] okay. My question Thank you.

02:17:24.49] >> That's correct. I don't

02:17:25.29] believe Juneteenth this in the

02:17:25.99] pmp. However, that is a paid

02:17:30.83] holiday. Is that correct? And

02:17:31.93] under under Mayor Suthers who

02:17:32.64] did get that, he did not need

02:17:33.34] to come to council and he did

02:17:34.97] get that as a paid day off.

02:17:35.64] But it's not in the list of

02:17:38.94] holidays. That's kind the same

02:17:43.78] thing. You You are saying, ok,

02:17:44.51] and I'm going to have to defer

02:17:47.85] because I don't know. I. Don't

02:17:48.49] know if it's in the as a

02:17:55.98] holiday or not. It's It's not.

02:17:56.29] So there's did Ministration

02:17:56.96] without counsel. So I just

02:17:57.70] wanted to make that very clear

02:18:00.17] that that's already happened.

02:18:00.87] They do have that discretion

02:18:09.14] just for clarity. So I have a

02:18:11.58] motion from COUNCILMAN Gold

02:18:14.38] COUNCILMAN, rainy to approve

02:18:15.12] the supplemental appropriation

02:18:18.99] to the General Fund. No,

02:18:22.19] that's a different motion. I

02:18:22.89] don't see the motion in front

02:18:27.99] of me.

02:18:27.80] >> the the when I have is the

02:18:30.27] one on the screen, which is to

02:18:30.90] approve the supplemental

02:18:31.57] appropriation, the General

02:18:34.87] Fund c a t psta tops fun to

02:18:36.84] NOVEMBER 20. The 26 for Ledet

02:18:37.97] is now amended to make it a

02:18:39.61] paid day off for those

02:18:41.64] furloughed employees. Not sure

02:18:42.35] which if all of that showing

02:18:44.68] on your tablets, but it is on

02:18:45.38] the public you just threw on

02:18:46.54] some of those because that

02:18:46.72] wasn't the first one up at.

02:18:47.22] Thank you for the

02:19:02.43] clarification. Let's vote.

02:19:02.90] And

02:19:19.67] We are back in session. Well,

02:19:20.74] the clerk, please read item 11

02:19:23.58] a into the record. An

02:19:24.98] ordinance vacating a portion

02:19:26.58] of a public right away, known

02:19:27.78] as Kettle Creek Road in

02:19:30.62] consisting of approximately

02:19:31.29] 2.4 2 acres located at 26 t

02:19:32.92] Old Ranch Road.

02:19:33.52] >> Today's hearing will

02:19:36.39] proceed as follows city staff

02:19:37.16] presentation applicant

02:19:39.23] presentation public comment

02:19:41.36] support public comment and

02:19:42.83] opposition applicant rebuttal

02:19:43.56] closing staff back to the Dias

02:19:44.20] for council questions in

02:19:48.24] deliberation. And decision and

02:19:49.57] we will now hear from the city

02:19:50.24] staff for 10 minutes. Good

02:19:52.54] morning.

02:19:53.51] >> Good morning, everybody. My

02:19:54.64] name is Austin Cooper around

02:19:56.44] the city planner senior

02:19:57.58] planner here at City, Colorado

02:19:58.65] Springs Planning Department

02:19:59.71] today. I'll be talking about

02:20:00.35] the Kettle Creek credibly

02:20:05.89] vacation plat. So this

02:20:07.57] property or this right of way

02:20:08.35] is located adjacent to 2060

02:20:09.66] Old Ranch Road. It is

02:20:10.32] northeast of Old Ranch Road

02:20:15.65] and Voyager Parkway. Right

02:20:15.69] away is known this Kettle

02:20:19.60] Creek Road. So to the

02:20:20.43] approximately 2.0, 4, 2, acres

02:20:27.74] in size. You'll see the on the

02:20:30.44] side, the vacation So this

02:20:33.28] development came before us to

02:20:35.71] JULY for annexation and the

02:20:38.72] land use plan for development

02:20:40.65] through that annexation land

02:20:43.72] use plan. You can see that the

02:20:45.79] existing Kettle Creek Road is

02:20:46.89] proposed to be vacated as part

02:20:48.43] of that. And this is kind of

02:20:49.97] the foremost ation of that

02:20:54.90] vacation process. The initial

02:20:57.80] snow that was in FEBRUARY and

02:20:58.50] the items were ready for the

02:20:59.20] agenda in AUGUST. There are 3

02:21:03.11] review cycle us. There were no

02:21:03.81] comments received up until

02:21:04.71] yesterday afternoon. We did

02:21:05.44] receive one public comment in

02:21:08.18] opposition to the proposal

02:21:10.51] mainly due to traffic

02:21:12.41] circulation in the surrounding

02:21:13.86] area that neighbors here to

02:21:15.38] speak on his his opposition.

02:21:20.42] So I want try to summarize.

02:21:21.79] The agency review is complete.

02:21:23.59] There were no outstanding

02:21:24.26] comments that needed to be

02:21:28.66] addressed. Post review. It

02:21:29.43] does comply with the overall

02:21:33.83] goes to plan c o s. And here

02:21:34.54] the application or criteria.

02:21:39.78] If you wish review them. And

02:21:42.14] here you're optional motions.

02:21:42.81] Any questions before light

02:21:46.65] breeze past that there is

02:21:47.25] proposals for roadways

02:21:50.62] throughout this development.

02:21:52.39] It just won't go directly in

02:21:54.22] the vein that is currently

02:21:55.86] exist in traffic. Engineering

02:22:01.93] prefers that ninety-degree.

02:22:02.70] Transition from Old Ranch Road

02:22:03.36] into the neighborhood. Not

02:22:06.70] this kind of angle. So it's

02:22:07.70] kind of straighten that out.

02:22:08.97] But also we've been through

02:22:09.67] the development a little bit

02:22:10.27] for the land use plan.

02:22:14.94] >> COUNCILMAN Casey.

02:22:15.68] >> Thank you. Members of could

02:22:16.78] you point on this map them to

02:22:17.91] where the I know we discussed

02:22:21.11] earning in excess workers, the

02:22:21.85] rotunda on I don't know how to

02:22:24.82] point about Cardinal

02:22:29.69] Directions. It's

02:22:30.89] >> I don't really know scale

02:22:33.42] but 50 feet or 100 feet east

02:22:34.97] of the existing mentions on

02:22:36.29] the Old Ranch Road.

02:22:37.33] >> Yeah, right around There is

02:22:41.87] a an adjacent application and

02:22:42.83] development that's already

02:22:43.87] been approved for the site to

02:22:44.90] the east that has an access

02:22:47.77] directly onto Old rancher onto

02:22:51.94] Old Ranch Road, upset of Otero

02:22:53.88] and for the land use plan of

02:22:54.51] this development. There's

02:22:55.85] going to be that one access

02:22:56.51] onto old ranch, but also an

02:22:58.68] access on some it. The Jayson

02:23:01.95] Eastern development as well.

02:23:02.62] >> And for numbers taking,

02:23:05.99] there's a prt, a funded.

02:23:07.39] >> Road improvements rolled

02:23:10.97] around roadless areas, walls

02:23:10.79] improvements to the bridge to

02:23:11.49] commissioner bp, rta and city

02:23:13.53] funding.

02:23:14.50] >> a lot of talks on here. I

02:23:15.20] Yeah, I don't know much about

02:23:19.10] that. But ok?

02:23:20.37] >> And just th vacation,

02:23:22.27] separate vacation, go through

02:23:24.31] planning commission.

02:23:27.28] >> Vacations do not go through

02:23:27.98] Planning Commission. They go

02:23:28.61] straight to counsel their

02:23:30.38] company by second mental. The

02:23:32.48] right Boulder Street vacation?

02:23:33.55] With that having other

02:23:34.25] applications associated with

02:23:35.15] that, they want together when

02:23:35.88] they're separated like this to

02:23:36.59] go straight to count. Right.

02:23:41.89] Thank you. Problem. That was

02:23:42.59] all that I had. So if you do

02:23:43.33] have additional questions, I'd

02:23:45.13] be happy to answer. The

02:23:47.40] applicant is here to present.

02:23:48.13] A few are one neighbor to pose

02:23:50.60] as well.

02:23:51.30] >> We will now hear from the

02:23:54.27] applicant. To provide an

02:23:59.11] overview for 10 minutes. Teen.

02:23:59.74] Good Good afternoon. Felt like

02:24:04.44] I feel like it's afternoon.

02:24:05.48] >> Sorry, your Entry of with

02:24:06.51] nes here to speak on behalf of

02:24:13.59] >> the applicant. As didn't

02:24:14.89] okay to this is the location

02:24:15.59] of the existing Kettle Creek

02:24:19.86] Road. And we are proposing to

02:24:24.33] vacate that portion.

02:24:27.20] >> he did also notice that the

02:24:27.73] annexation of me so

02:24:28.40] disassociated with this was

02:24:29.10] approved in JULY with a 9, 0,

02:24:30.10] vote.

02:24:34.37] >> And thank you, everybody.

02:24:35.98] The the entire right of way is

02:24:40.65] within the property subject to

02:24:41.45] vacation. They 3 properties

02:24:45.52] that are adjacent to it.

02:24:48.24] >> Old being bull by the

02:24:48.72] developer comprise within the

02:24:51.69] proposed development. That

02:24:53.83] will be a new access and

02:24:54.56] street network. Provided with

02:24:59.56] the development plan. This one

02:25:00.26] shows the development plan to

02:25:04.47] add and council member cases

02:25:06.64] question the red is the

02:25:08.51] proposed vacation and the blue

02:25:09.51] is the new location of the

02:25:10.21] primary access road. And then

02:25:13.24] from that, that will be.

02:25:13.91] >> Smaller roads providing

02:25:14.54] access to the individual

02:25:20.62] units. Just got briefing

02:25:23.45] through the criteria because

02:25:24.12] they offer a specific Vita

02:25:24.79] play fake Haitian different

02:25:25.52] from most of this that fed the

02:25:30.29] objective. The right to play

02:25:32.13] is no longer needed public

02:25:33.13] transportation purposes, like

02:25:34.46] I say. And currently says

02:25:38.37] saves 3 county Paul Souls.

02:25:39.50] While former county pa cause

02:25:44.67] properties now since the city.

02:25:46.51] It wasn't a impact, 10, a

02:25:47.21] puppet utilities. There is an

02:25:47.88] existing gas easement which

02:25:51.71] will served and then the

02:25:54.35] utilities will be relocated

02:25:54.92] new easements in the

02:25:55.58] post-credits within the new

02:26:00.49] Subdivision.

02:26:02.26] >> with that to the impact

02:26:02.86] uniform any remaining

02:26:03.49] proportions of the public

02:26:06.73] right of way.

02:26:07.36] >> It wasn't because the

02:26:08.67] entire public right of way is

02:26:12.70] being vacated. Fall of rights

02:26:13.93] to access to the property is

02:26:14.64] it's not providing any other

02:26:15.34] access to any other props is

02:26:19.64] just the 3 that now going to

02:26:20.27] be at within this of rule

02:26:24.18] development possible. And

02:26:24.88] consistent with the purposes

02:26:27.41] of the udc. There are many

02:26:28.11] says that you to say, but the

02:26:30.35] primary one is too protect

02:26:33.57] public health safety and well

02:26:36.76] fi. This will not be adversely

02:26:37.46] affected by this vacation is

02:26:40.66] no members of the public haw.

02:26:41.73] Impacted by to break right to

02:26:43.23] play vacation because it just

02:26:43.86] the 3 properties. Again,

02:26:45.10] that's all part of this

02:26:49.60] development. And with that,

02:26:50.20] I'm happy to answer any

02:26:57.24] questions. Tied council in kc.

02:26:57.98] >> You're just a question from

02:26:58.64] referred the primary Access

02:27:02.15] Road has a dedicated turn lane

02:27:02.45] that.

02:27:04.45] >> we'll have a left turn lane

02:27:05.12] eastbound left Lane coming

02:27:08.49] into this site from the East,

02:27:09.72] 10 into the property. That

02:27:11.19] will be a new left. And thank

02:27:15.93] you and you are correct about

02:27:16.56] the improvements that you

02:27:18.86] mentioned that appt fate. Ppp

02:27:19.90] and city-funded. I think MR.

02:27:20.56] Frisbee went into that. Is

02:27:21.33] that some detail with the

02:27:24.33] annexation hearing? Thank you.

02:27:24.90] I don't see any other

02:27:27.37] questions for now. Thank you.

02:27:27.94] Thank you.

02:27:28.57] >> now open it for public

02:27:33.24] comment. I have no one signed

02:27:35.95] in support, but I do have one

02:27:36.85] signed up in opposition, MR.

02:27:44.65] Jay Stoner. Good morning, MR.

02:27:46.59] Stoner you have 3 minutes, 3

02:27:50.99] minutes. Good morning.

02:27:54.53] >> Almost

02:27:57.87] >> I'm here as a resident of

02:27:58.37] the neighborhood.

02:27:59.67] >> South of Old Ranch Road

02:28:03.20] along Otero. Over to spring,

02:28:03.81] Chris, about 2 miles of

02:28:07.48] ground. There's about 100

02:28:08.44] homes in there that rely

02:28:09.38] heavily on being able to

02:28:11.11] access Old Ranch Road. Otero

02:28:15.58] Avenue. My concern is it's

02:28:18.91] very dangerous right now. And

02:28:20.25] after you had 300 homes on the

02:28:23.19] north of Old Ranch Road, it's

02:28:28.26] it's going to be varied

02:28:29.66] interests. I'm going to read

02:28:31.43] something. I wrote this so I

02:28:36.70] don't ramble. My name is Jay

02:28:37.70] Stoner and my wife, Michelle

02:28:39.77] and I are building a new home

02:28:41.17] at 1, 0, 2, 1, 5 Otero Avenue.

02:28:41.81] That's 2, lots off of Old

02:28:45.24] Ranch Road. So we are

02:28:45.91] persally very interested in

02:28:47.45] what's happening our new

02:28:49.48] neighborhood. I'm also

02:28:50.87] residential real estate

02:28:50.75] developer. And I understand

02:28:53.42] planning. Based on how the

02:28:57.16] roads are being laid out. This

02:28:57.79] project, the challengers

02:28:58.32] developing Wilke be

02:29:01.23] connecting. With the

02:29:01.96] previously approved challenger

02:29:06.36] project next door. So most

02:29:08.50] both projects traffic will be

02:29:08.67] accessing Old Ranch road at

02:29:13.76] the Otero Avenue intersection.

02:29:14.21] The road layout was probably

02:29:14.91] designed this way to meet the

02:29:15.61] fire code requirements for 2

02:29:18.34] points of access. I understand

02:29:21.31] that the current situation at

02:29:22.51] the intersection of Old Ranch

02:29:24.45] Road in Otero avenues, very

02:29:25.15] dangerous every day, at least

02:29:26.88] 3 times per day. It is nearly

02:29:30.12] impossible for someone living

02:29:30.82] in the Otero neighborhood to

02:29:33.56] safely Access Old Ranch Road.

02:29:35.56] Given the massive traffic

02:29:37.46] count and the lack of line of

02:29:38.63] sight disability. Let me

02:29:39.33] explain that when you get to

02:29:43.17] the Otero. Branch

02:29:44.10] intersection, you look West,

02:29:44.97] you can't see very far because

02:29:46.57] the ground is this and does

02:29:47.20] this so people are coming

02:29:50.64] east. That way more than the

02:29:53.81] speed limit. 35 miles an hour.

02:29:55.18] And you just kind of hope when

02:29:57.18] you pull out that somebody is

02:29:57.85] not going 60 because you're

02:30:01.58] going to get smacked. So

02:30:03.59] anyway, it's dangerous.

02:30:04.25] Currently given the massive

02:30:06.52] anyway, back to. This is the

02:30:10.23] reality today with no with no

02:30:10.93] new homes built on the north

02:30:13.20] side of Old Ranch Road. I can

02:30:14.50] only dangerous. It's going to

02:30:15.36] be with another 300 plus or

02:30:18.60] minus homes. Use Otero Avenue

02:30:22.44] Access older, intrude. Moving

02:30:23.10] forward. I'm sure Colorado

02:30:23.77] Springs is going to approve

02:30:26.21] this project. It's really not

02:30:30.48] a bad project. So the only way

02:30:31.81] to make this intersection

02:30:34.92] safer is to approve this

02:30:36.21] project condition upon the

02:30:36.65] developer, installing a

02:30:37.35] stoplight at the intersection

02:30:38.49] of Old Ranch Road Turtle

02:30:41.96] Avenue. This will help make

02:30:42.62] this intersection safer for

02:30:46.30] the current residents as well

02:30:46.76] as the future residents on the

02:30:49.00] north side of Old Ranch Road.

02:30:50.23] That's helping make

02:30:50.96] challengers new projects more

02:30:52.50] livable and safer for

02:30:55.87] residents. Please not approve

02:30:56.54] this project without adding

02:31:00.44] the condition. That challenge

02:31:01.91] or and or developer install a

02:31:02.61] stoplight at the intersection

02:31:03.98] of Old Ranch Road in Otero

02:31:04.94] Avenue. Thank you for your

02:31:07.21] time and consideration. I'll

02:31:11.45] be back because I yeah, really

02:31:12.55] need make sure you all

02:31:13.95] understand this is a very

02:31:14.62] dangerous intersection and

02:31:15.49] it's going to get way worse.

02:31:18.96] Thank you.

02:31:19.66] >> That just conclude public

02:31:26.20] comment. For this hearing the

02:31:26.76] applicant can come back up for

02:31:31.27] rebuttal. For 5 minutes. So

02:31:36.94] tonight. My presentation

02:31:37.64] backup that to the questions

02:31:38.34] slide. Just so I have a site

02:31:47.12] on.

02:31:48.62] >> So this doesn't show the

02:31:55.96] entire context that the

02:31:57.98] gentleman was correct and that

02:31:59.00] this this property just

02:32:00.00] connect. You can see on the

02:32:00.83] north side, there was a

02:32:01.53] connection into the adjacent

02:32:07.20] possible. That required for

02:32:08.27] purposes. It was required full

02:32:13.46] as possible as both

02:32:15.48] developments cottages on the

02:32:17.25] adjacent property is access is

02:32:17.91] the proper to that success

02:32:21.62] opposite that arrow opinion.

02:32:23.52] Need the properties from a

02:32:24.95] development perspective

02:32:26.99] require that connection access

02:32:27.66] point of view, pure access

02:32:30.29] point of view. But for

02:32:31.30] connectivity and to have the 2

02:32:31.66] points of access that was

02:32:32.49] required by the fight to pass

02:32:36.87] continued Fiat. The adjacent

02:32:42.41] property is being developed by

02:32:46.84] the of a homes and that spot

02:32:47.98] pushed them to put just these

02:32:48.88] profit is negotiate these

02:32:49.58] owners to annex this into the

02:32:51.68] city said they could make that

02:32:52.35] 2 properties connect to one

02:32:56.48] another. It is not anticipated

02:32:59.32] in the traffic studies done to

02:33:01.49] dissipate that this traffic

02:33:04.53] will go through the adjacent

02:33:05.69] development, too gain access.

02:33:07.66] I wish now I had a plan that

02:33:08.93] kind of combined the 2

02:33:09.63] layouts. But he was say it's

02:33:13.20] not very convenient. Way to go

02:33:16.84] through. It's it's that would

02:33:17.50] effectively because you but

02:33:18.77] dry for ways within a

02:33:18.81] multi-family development. That

02:33:22.21] call teaches us mola. But it's

02:33:23.54] connection that takes you from

02:33:27.48] that point to a terror avenue.

02:33:29.54] So Tara Avenue access will be

02:33:29.85] essentially used just by the

02:33:32.15] cottages, which is already

02:33:32.92] approved, has already being

02:33:38.89] approved by City Council isn't

02:33:40.13] a construction so that ship

02:33:40.83] has sailed on on that

02:33:44.60] particular access point. And

02:33:45.70] then in terms of this project,

02:33:47.60] the development time for this

02:33:48.77] project because it's been an

02:33:49.90] extent it's being sent is also

02:33:54.34] administrative. So this this

02:33:55.13] project we're talking about

02:33:55.74] today, this application is

02:33:58.51] just for the right way. They

02:34:00.52] Cajun. It has very specific

02:34:04.42] criteria that do not relate to

02:34:05.15] traffic generation that do not

02:34:09.26] relate to traffic impacts. And

02:34:09.92] particular development will

02:34:11.73] not have the impacts. Tara

02:34:14.32] happening.

02:34:19.60] >> It will 99% of the traffic

02:34:20.50] will utilize this access

02:34:22.40] point, which is how it's

02:34:22.77] designed.

02:34:24.97] >> You MAY get Cajun and if

02:34:28.44] there is VSin from the fire

02:34:29.46] prospective to use the

02:34:30.41] alternative access, clearly

02:34:31.25] it's available. But it's not

02:34:32.65] going to be a regular access

02:34:40.52] point. And questions. I don't

02:34:47.36] see any. Thank you. Moving on

02:34:48.66] to closing staff comments. If

02:34:51.63] there are any Boston, you

02:34:53.71] don't have case back to the

02:34:53.80] Dias for questions. Liberation

02:34:55.90] in decisions. COUNCILMAN

02:34:56.84] Casey.

02:34:58.77] >> No word if agree with MR.

02:35:01.94] Stoner, that is a dangerous

02:35:03.14] intersection or terror o and

02:35:04.85] 0, Ranch road there. But I do

02:35:05.81] think that's a separate issue

02:35:06.51] than from the vacation of the

02:35:07.11] of the of the road were

02:35:10.38] talking about today. But I

02:35:11.52] will follow up with a traffic

02:35:12.39] engineer to see what if

02:35:14.15] there's any kind calming

02:35:14.89] measures or if there's signage

02:35:15.56] that could put in there to

02:35:19.97] alert people coming from. But

02:35:19.69] eastbound that they're

02:35:20.36] approaching the, you know,

02:35:23.96] kind of a intersection there.

02:35:24.70] Do note heroin. You're from

02:35:26.13] the mistake when you're

02:35:30.80] driving. When you over,

02:35:30.84] introduced to city on a hill,

02:35:31.47] basically rivers, it's an

02:35:32.77] incline and looking left like

02:35:33.47] a that would be difficult to

02:35:34.14] that given to many times.

02:35:39.41] Thank you.

02:35:39.98] >> If I have no more

02:35:43.95] questions. From the Dyess. We

02:35:45.32] have a motion from COUNCILMAN

02:35:46.24] And a second from COUNCILMAN

02:35:54.66] Gold. Let's And the mission

02:36:01.30] passes 9 to 0. So next up,

02:36:04.20] we're going to have to recess

02:36:06.14] from council meeting and go in

02:36:08.41] to reconvene as the board of

02:36:09.64] directors of the Burg. A

02:36:10.34] general improvement district

02:36:12.68] for the 2021.

02:36:14.65] >> Action plan on the

02:36:16.28] following item. So the regular

02:36:18.89] city council meeting is in

02:36:20.89] recess and we are now in

02:36:22.96] session as the board. For

02:36:27.73] that. General improvement

02:36:33.37] District. Good morning.

02:36:36.14] Honorable members of City

02:36:36.87] Council shirt. And so I got to

02:36:40.37] for it, Yeah, I need a motion.

02:36:46.98] To go They don't. Gavel then

02:36:54.49] were gobbled out. 14 back in

02:36:56.12] the 1441. The clerk, please

02:37:00.66] read item 13, a for today into

02:37:02.83] the record NOVEMBER 10, 2026.

02:37:04.70] Is public hearing date for

02:37:06.53] integration of adopting the

02:37:07.20] proposed 2020's on Colorado

02:37:07.80] Springs Brigade General

02:37:09.70] Improvement District 2021

02:37:09.34] budget.

02:37:09.94] >> And to advertise as

02:37:13.77] required by law.

02:37:15.14] >> Great. Thank you so much.

02:37:18.48] Doing same page. The huge

02:37:19.11] financial officer. So what

02:37:20.15] we're doing here with this

02:37:22.28] item and the next one that

02:37:23.22] you'll see for the Austin

02:37:25.18] Bluffs, which will address

02:37:28.49] then this starts the budget

02:37:30.36] process for these 2 general

02:37:31.42] improvement districts by state

02:37:35.86] statute. We need to have set

02:37:36.63] the city the board of the

02:37:39.36] district, which is the council

02:37:41.73] members needs to set a public

02:37:43.47] hearing. And so what this is

02:37:44.47] doing is simply setting the

02:37:46.11] public hearing.

02:37:49.17] >> 4 NOVEMBER 10th for this

02:37:51.64] general improvement district.

02:37:52.54] What we will do that NOVEMBER

02:37:55.11] 10th is we will.

02:37:57.78] >> Review the budget. We will

02:38:00.79] review the no levee resolution

02:38:04.62] and have that public hearing.

02:38:07.53] So this step is simply

02:38:08.23] providing public notice that

02:38:08.93] the NOVEMBER 10th will be the

02:38:13.70] public hearing on the budget.

02:38:15.53] Colorado Springs Briargate

02:38:17.90] Improvement District 2021, the

02:38:21.84] 2027 budget as proposed

02:38:25.64] totals. 2 million, 248,833,

02:38:26.95] which is an increase of

02:38:30.72] $165,000. This general

02:38:33.49] improvement district, you MAY

02:38:34.15] remember used to be a prior

02:38:38.12] gate. Special improvement

02:38:39.32] maintenance district. It was

02:38:42.19] revamped and is now a Chi id.

02:38:45.63] So this functions as a to

02:38:47.63] operate the for perks to

02:38:50.57] maintain that General

02:38:51.20] improvement district for

02:38:55.51] priority. The Mill Levy is

02:38:59.44] 4.4, 0, 9, mills, which is

02:39:00.18] unchanged from the prior year.

02:39:04.38] So same the Levy. And we but a

02:39:05.72] copy of the budget included on

02:39:07.65] the agenda packet. Plus, the

02:39:08.72] public notice which we will

02:39:09.45] coordinate with the city clerk

02:39:11.92] to post a public notice. And

02:39:13.59] then again on NOVEMBER 10th,

02:39:17.76] we will have a public hearing.

02:39:19.80] Approve a budget by resolution

02:39:20.63] and a proven ability of

02:39:21.27] resolution. So that's the

02:39:23.90] plan. So this is just simply

02:39:26.27] motion to approve the public

02:39:28.37] notice for NOVEMBER 10.

02:39:31.54] COUNCILMAN Casey.

02:39:32.61] >> Thank you. MADAM PRESIDENT

02:39:35.58] will be more information

02:39:36.28] provided them with You know,

02:39:36.98] so the budget that's attached

02:39:39.62] to this us lies or additional

02:39:40.52] information will be provided

02:39:41.55] for them over As far as what

02:39:42.22] they're doing with it maybe

02:39:45.49] more details on that.

02:39:46.22] >> And all of that information

02:39:47.49] is included in the 2027 budget

02:39:52.43] document that you received.

02:39:54.43] >> In the perks that was just

02:39:55.27] the you talk about, the one

02:39:57.60] that was attached here to the

02:39:59.42] agenda. That was just a one

02:40:01.84] pager that had budget. But no

02:40:03.97] details as far examples of

02:40:05.94] salaries would just talk staff

02:40:06.91] members or 20 other

02:40:07.61] improvement once had doesn't

02:40:08.35] have. That is a So just trying

02:40:11.48] to get a feel for maybe if

02:40:12.58] it's on a return, that could

02:40:13.32] be a separate number. You have

02:40:13.98] to do for me to tears with

02:40:14.62] them to talk about. It's

02:40:16.12] included in the parks,

02:40:19.95] operation and maintenance.

02:40:21.99] >> that section of the budget

02:40:23.39] will contain the detail for

02:40:24.33] this general improvement

02:40:24.73] districts so that you can see

02:40:25.33] the breakdown of those

02:40:30.63] specific items. Thank you.

02:40:32.24] >> if I don't have any

02:40:35.77] deliberation, I need a motion.

02:40:37.48] Have a motion from COUNCILMAN

02:40:38.14] Williams and a second from

02:40:39.44] COUNCILMAN Drizzly to set over

02:40:54.29] 10 date. That's The mission

02:40:58.30] passes 9 to 0. Thank you. So

02:41:00.40] we will adjourn from that

02:41:04.27] board of directors 4.

02:41:05.27] >> The Burg, a general

02:41:06.24] improvement district 2021 and

02:41:06.84] council that will not

02:41:07.67] reconvene as the board of

02:41:09.41] directors for the market place

02:41:12.31] at Austin. Bless General

02:41:13.15] Improvement District for the

02:41:16.48] action of the following. Will

02:41:19.35] the clerk please read? Item

02:41:23.35] into the record request a

02:41:24.52] senator 5/10/2026. Is a public

02:41:25.99] hearing date consideration of

02:41:27.62] adopting.

02:41:30.65] >> The proposed 2027 cars

02:41:30.80] marketplace. An awesome place,

02:41:31.50] General improvement district

02:41:32.10] budget and advertisers

02:41:34.17] required by law.

02:41:35.70] >> Great. Good morning. A

02:41:35.70] number of members of City

02:41:37.53] Council, Cheri McDaniel, chief

02:41:39.47] financial officer and this is

02:41:40.14] very similar. We are just

02:41:41.97] simply setting a public

02:41:45.44] hearing for the date of

02:41:47.28] NOVEMBER 10th. This General

02:41:47.98] improvement district is very

02:41:48.61] different than the prior.

02:41:50.28] Okay. General Improvement

02:41:51.62] district. This general

02:41:54.56] improvement district exists

02:41:57.82] solely has a debt funding

02:41:59.22] mechanism that was issued to

02:41:59.92] fund the improvements at the

02:42:02.66] Austin Bluffs and Academy.

02:42:04.13] Coroner there for the

02:42:08.50] marketplace and the so

02:42:10.53] function of this jd is to make

02:42:15.44] those debt service payments.

02:42:20.31] The budget for 2027 totals.

02:42:22.38] $545,325. And that is solely

02:42:27.15] to payment on bonds that were

02:42:28.58] issued and any administrative,

02:42:30.39] the fees that MAY apply. We

02:42:32.62] are making an additional

02:42:35.36] payment. 355,000 on those

02:42:38.33] bonds, which benefits the

02:42:41.69] property owners paying that

02:42:44.10] ability and we reduce the

02:42:45.20] interest paid and the term of

02:42:46.10] the bonds, we're reducing that

02:42:48.90] the term of the bonds by about

02:42:49.34] 3 years. So that's great news

02:42:53.91] for businesses in that she it.

02:42:56.51] This is business is only there

02:42:56.75] are no residential properties

02:42:57.35] in general improvement

02:43:03.57] district. The Mill Levy, this

02:43:04.35] 50 mills for payment in 2027,

02:43:05.82] which is unchanged from the

02:43:09.33] current year. U.S. Are

02:43:12.19] questions that just would

02:43:12.93] appreciate a motion to set the

02:43:16.43] public hearing. Have a motion

02:43:17.47] from COUNCILMAN In a second

02:43:18.80] from COUNCILMAN Donaldson.

02:43:19.47] Let's go to set the public

02:43:24.34] hearing for NOVEMBER 10th.

02:43:25.54] >> And the motion passes 9 to

02:43:29.98] 0. Thank you. Thank you. We

02:43:31.41] are now adjourned from the

02:43:32.52] board of directors of the

02:43:36.22] marketplace to Boston. Bless.

02:43:37.85] Plus and we are now back in

02:43:40.59] the regular meeting. And

02:43:44.16] meeting is back in session. We

02:43:47.23] now have citizens. Discussion

02:43:49.47] for items not on today's

02:43:51.20] agenda. Citizens will have 3

02:43:51.87] minutes to share their

02:43:52.57] comments. They have withstood

02:43:53.67] the you've signed up Michael,

02:43:55.17] please State your name.

02:43:58.37] Introduce yourself. Limit

02:43:59.11] yourself to topics that are

02:44:01.95] relevant in germane to city

02:44:02.65] business. And first I have

02:44:11.62] Steve Lightfoot.

02:44:18.79] >> smile.

02:44:33.31] >> You are.

02:44:36.61] And my own. Okay.

02:44:37.71] I'm Steve Lightfoot. I'm the

02:44:38.35] guy who owns the land and

02:44:41.12] murder truth dot com ban. Can

02:44:45.66] I get another 30 seconds here?

02:44:46.35] No, I mean, I lost 30 seconds

02:44:50.83] with no Mike. Yeah, but I'm

02:44:51.53] losing 3 minutes here. Can I

02:44:52.13] get another 30 seconds,

02:44:58.27] please. Anyway, Stephen King's

02:44:58.97] hometown Council rock gave me

02:45:02.91] a phony ticket last week

02:45:03.54] enlisted the support of a

02:45:04.74] trucking company all with

02:45:05.77] empty flat. But you're and me

02:45:06.41] into the left lane over a

02:45:07.81] period of 10 minutes soon. As

02:45:09.82] I got into the left lane, I

02:45:13.55] got a ticket. It was so nasty

02:45:14.25] looking the way I was pulled

02:45:15.82] over for doing nothing that 2

02:45:16.48] people wrecked right behind

02:45:21.95] me. The man gave me a ticket

02:45:21.79] is looking to just like a bet

02:45:22.49] wing monkey in the Wizard of

02:45:26.56] Oz. They only feel secure

02:45:28.16] working for somebody huge and

02:45:29.46] powerful like the government

02:45:30.13] because they themselves are

02:45:31.40] weak and powerless. That's

02:45:34.40] what I call a boot liquor.

02:45:35.41] Anyone not helping Steve

02:45:38.57] Lightfoot expose this is

02:45:39.28] looking the government's boot

02:45:41.94] after they your ribs in.

02:45:42.61] Looking the boot that kick

02:45:46.86] your ribs Brady after they

02:45:46.88] brainwashed. You made you all

02:45:50.69] insane. Made you all sick.

02:45:51.42] Yes, I'm the guy telling you

02:45:52.12] you're all washed up your all

02:45:56.43] wet. You're all exposed.

02:45:57.63] Covering up John Lennon's

02:46:01.56] murder. And just by the way,

02:46:03.30] last week I was at a karaoke

02:46:03.67] and someone said to me, you

02:46:04.33] know, you're famous, I go.

02:46:06.23] What do you mean? I'm famous.

02:46:06.97] You're all over the Internet.

02:46:07.57] You're all over. Read.

02:46:10.24] Everyone loves you. So take

02:46:10.94] that Stephen King and all you

02:46:13.41] naysayers. The story's going

02:46:14.14] to break. Where will you be in

02:46:17.48] the mix? I'm gonna do my

02:46:19.35] rally. Not here at City Hall.

02:46:21.82] DECEMBER 8th moving it to krdo

02:46:24.25] television station on a street

02:46:24.95] while there's still a median

02:46:29.62] public site. Everyone should

02:46:29.72] should come down at noon on

02:46:32.86] DECEMBER 8, the Tuesday at a

02:46:33.83] rally around the evidence. The

02:46:34.80] killer's face before the

02:46:35.50] murder. The killers letter to

02:46:38.73] the editor before the murder

02:46:39.40] codes in time in Newsweek's

02:46:40.72] headlines for for 5 months.

02:46:43.77] All about Lennon's murder. You

02:46:44.44] can prove, although little

02:46:45.41] nasty secrets, the Kennedy

02:46:46.31] murders, Martin Luther King,

02:46:48.14] just go back to their bold

02:46:49.78] print surrounding the crime,

02:46:51.15] folks find other nasty little

02:46:52.95] secret. But meanwhile, this

02:46:56.52] ticket. They want me to fight

02:46:58.32] it and get 3 points when they

02:47:01.16] swat me down. No, I'm gonna

02:47:02.36] pay this off early. Get it

02:47:03.28] down to one point and then

02:47:05.65] petition for an appeal. Going

02:47:05.96] to get discovery. Going to

02:47:07.73] find out exactly what's going

02:47:09.73] on. But bunch of bookmakers

02:47:11.30] gave me a ticket Stephen

02:47:12.50] King's hometown because their

02:47:15.74] boot Lakers folks, thank

02:47:16.37] >> Next up, we have Joyce

02:47:27.48] Tevis. And I'm Thank you. Let

02:47:28.85] me speak. I'm here to speak

02:47:29.45] about the Meadows Park

02:47:33.39] Community Center.

02:47:34.16] >> I do not believe the

02:47:34.86] holdings company is going to

02:47:37.73] do as they say, because I feel

02:47:39.33] as we go into the upcoming

02:47:40.32] year, you guys have the right

02:47:43.73] to waive it. You can wait that

02:47:44.67] decision. You MAY not be in

02:47:46.27] the seats, but somebody else

02:47:49.20] MAY be maybe a different

02:47:49.90] Anything so I cannot believe

02:47:50.61] they're going to do what they

02:47:53.44] say. And I also like to thank

02:47:54.14] you, guys dropped the ball on

02:48:00.28] that one. Pay tax money for

02:48:01.52] that center and that tax money

02:48:05.49] over 40 years over 40 years

02:48:07.59] kept that Senator going.

02:48:12.33] >> And now all the You guys

02:48:14.46] were the kid takers of that

02:48:17.93] community center. You

02:48:18.63] shouldn't make sure the money

02:48:22.64] went to the right place. Next

02:48:25.44] have

02:48:36.92] >> apologized him. PRESIDENT I

02:48:38.39] just waited too long to hit

02:48:39.15] that. But if I could please

02:48:42.79] and thank you. I just want to

02:48:44.79] appreciate you and thank you

02:48:45.49] for coming regarding Meadows

02:48:46.98] Park. And I think it's

02:48:48.83] important for you to know that

02:48:54.60] we voted yesterday that I do

02:48:57.90] believe that that

02:48:58.64] >> the soon-to-be owner of the

02:49:01.84] property will, in fact support

02:49:04.48] the community in those deed

02:49:06.65] restricted areas. Furthermore,

02:49:07.31] there will be a meeting. He

02:49:08.45] will be meeting with the

02:49:12.91] community to talk. I just

02:49:13.29] can't I was waiting because I

02:49:15.52] could remember the date do.

02:49:16.32] Member council member called

02:49:20.43] member Councilmember that

02:49:21.26] OCTOBER 20th.

02:49:22.40] >> fox 6 o'clock at the 6

02:49:25.40] o'clock in the community

02:49:26.37] center.

02:49:27.40] >> And there is a group of of

02:49:28.30] neighbors who were very, very

02:49:31.97] engaged and involved and have

02:49:32.91] been very engaged involved I

02:49:33.57] won't go into more now just

02:49:35.48] because it's your time to

02:49:37.64] talk. But I want you to know

02:49:38.71] that that is happening and you

02:49:39.41] can get more information from

02:49:45.45] us later. Thank you.

02:49:46.85] >> We have judge for not being

02:49:53.16] yesterday, but drug as a my

02:49:53.83] issue is one dissenter was

02:49:55.86] open and we had. The always

02:49:59.70] years we've been there. We had

02:50:00.37] a maintenance guy come in

02:50:02.10] claiming deuce of whatever. So

02:50:09.74] your workers too. And then

02:50:10.51] what? My issue a free as the

02:50:11.11] maintenance community,

02:50:11.78] including why did he write

02:50:14.68] down report that we have?

02:50:16.32] Lauren didn't read his book a

02:50:18.57] floor itself. Now you guys

02:50:19.39] report due report to use she

02:50:26.36] get a Now the force falling

02:50:27.10] apart alive. Knowing that even

02:50:29.93] going off dozens die. Was told

02:50:33.14] I will show you Russell, that

02:50:33.80] you guys are trying to hold

02:50:37.24] all the senators down. Centers

02:50:37.81] and that impression.

02:50:41.94] Appreciate that all. I much

02:50:44.88] coming through. Because people

02:50:48.88] need these centers. And

02:50:49.62] they've been around for a long

02:50:50.29] time, right? For my parents

02:50:52.39] around. With that. That's how

02:50:54.99] I got involved. Have been

02:50:58.33] doing phones. 52 years and

02:50:58.99] that had lived in this town

02:51:02.69] that down and there's your

02:51:04.93] county to logic and everybody

02:51:05.63] and they are there to support

02:51:09.76] Council back then. And you

02:51:10.47] guys, we asked you, guys, come

02:51:12.74] our center open. We invite you

02:51:17.51] guys to our findings. No one

02:51:18.38] says you guys urge know we're

02:51:18.88] doing down in the

02:51:23.29] neighborhood. That is a much

02:51:25.99] for you Size But you guys need

02:51:29.99] to show mentions with and the

02:51:33.20] centers when are not close.

02:51:35.20] That's all I have to say.

02:51:39.17] >> COUNCILMAN Drizzly. Thank

02:51:39.87] you, MADAM PRESIDENT, I just

02:51:40.80] want to make it clear. I

02:51:41.44] appreciate you coming in.

02:51:42.76] Appreciate your comments.

02:51:42.74] Thank you very much.

02:51:43.37] >> But I want to make it

02:51:46.78] clear. For all the citizens

02:51:47.68] that are listening that the

02:51:49.65] choice of closing this

02:51:50.31] community center was not a

02:51:53.58] decision made by City council.

02:51:54.68] >> And any rumors about other

02:51:56.55] community centers being on the

02:51:57.22] block for closure, which I

02:51:57.92] haven't heard that river. But

02:52:01.56] let's say it's true. That's

02:52:02.73] not a city council decision.

02:52:05.43] Either of those are all

02:52:06.67] administrative choices in

02:52:06.73] things that are done by the

02:52:09.47] mayor's office and by the city

02:52:10.13] administration, not by city

02:52:11.50] Council. So just want you to

02:52:14.64] be aware that case year just

02:52:16.47] try find him come down on

02:52:17.17] because this is is a fair to

02:52:19.78] neighbors.

02:52:21.49] >> Yeah. If there are rumors

02:52:22.35] of other senators being

02:52:24.86] proposed for closure, we you

02:52:24.82] know, we recently received the

02:52:26.42] 2027 budget books and I

02:52:27.23] haven't

02:52:27.65] >> seeing anything in the

02:52:29.72] budget book about that. But if

02:52:32.56] you have more information,

02:52:35.83] please feel free about 8, 0,

02:52:36.53] what they cause yet. And if I

02:52:37.26] could help and we give his own

02:52:37.96] children, please let me know,

02:52:40.20] because I know.

02:52:40.93] >> I've been help new city for

02:52:43.30] a long time.

02:52:44.17] >> Yeah, I'd encourage you to

02:52:44.84] get with the chief of staff

02:52:47.31] and talk about your concerns

02:52:49.17] council. Can help anyway if

02:52:49.87] that's not true. That's true.

02:52:50.81] I want to sell ones that start

02:52:52.48] saving them.

02:52:52.88] >> Thanks.

02:52:53.51] >> Thank. Thank you, MR.

02:52:55.15] Mayor. Next up, we have Kyle

02:53:06.42] Macafee.

02:53:07.13] >> Good afternoon Council. My

02:53:10.46] name is Khan Macafee. I'm 14

02:53:11.16] years old and I'm here today

02:53:12.16] to talk about transparency. My

02:53:16.34] cspd records requests on JULY

02:53:17.17] 28th. I requested existing and

02:53:20.43] we are records tied to my

02:53:21.84] mother's vehicle, including

02:53:23.13] detections alerts and access

02:53:23.61] fox under the Colorado

02:53:25.82] Criminal Justice Records Act

02:53:28.71] with signed authorization.

02:53:31.18] Cspd is AUGUST. 11th internal

02:53:31.88] do they pass and the request

02:53:33.59] was denied on AUGUST 17th

02:53:34.29] because the systems could not

02:53:34.89] be queried for civilian

02:53:39.59] purposes. That they requested

02:53:40.29] written grounds undersea are

02:53:43.86] as section 2, 7, 2, that's

02:53:44.86] 305, subsection sakes. That

02:53:46.23] provision requires a written

02:53:46.90] statement within 72 hours,

02:53:50.34] citing the law, regulation

02:53:51.94] supporting the denial or the

02:53:52.64] general nature of the public

02:53:55.34] interest being protected.

02:53:57.31] After receiving no response. I

02:53:58.15] contacted the city attorney's

02:53:59.91] office on AUGUST. 20th. I

02:54:00.98] spoke with Stephanie Pass or

02:54:03.58] accounts on AUGUST. 25th and

02:54:04.22] sent her the documents on

02:54:07.72] AUGUST 27th. On SEPTEMBER. 3rd

02:54:08.42] Boxer said an attorney would

02:54:12.16] review the matter and respond.

02:54:12.83] Christine, you also explain

02:54:13.79] that the requested clear query

02:54:16.66] would create a new record.

02:54:17.30] That was 17 days after my

02:54:21.20] request for rain grounds. His

02:54:22.34] response MAY have been that

02:54:23.80] written statement, but the

02:54:23.67] city has not confirmed it.

02:54:27.74] Which response it relied on my

02:54:28.44] request explicitly aspect of

02:54:30.81] this thing. Records Biden cspd

02:54:31.48] tree. My request creating a

02:54:37.22] new one. On SEPTEMBER 8th On

02:54:37.75] SEPTEMBER 8th Foster said Cspd

02:54:41.19] had complied with the law. She

02:54:41.86] wrote, quote, the written

02:54:42.56] grounds, but the denial were

02:54:44.66] properly issued under Cora and

02:54:45.86] said no further action was

02:54:47.56] required. She also wrote,

02:54:48.60] quote, If you have any

02:54:49.23] questions, please do not

02:54:52.80] hesitate to reach out. So on

02:54:56.57] SEPTEMBER 11, faster to

02:54:57.20] specific questions. First

02:54:59.11] issue means ecj are rather

02:54:59.57] than core Cincy Cjr a

02:55:00.24] governor's criminal justice

02:55:03.61] records. Second, which

02:55:04.51] specific response satisfied my

02:55:06.35] AUGUST 17th requests for

02:55:07.25] reading grounds and on what

02:55:10.32] date was not provided.

02:55:11.90] According to my notes from our

02:55:13.59] SEPTEMBER 22nd conversation

02:55:14.42] after council, she said the

02:55:15.69] matter was closed and up to

02:55:17.46] 72, our requirement did not

02:55:18.69] apply. I understood she would

02:55:21.56] not respond for Green mountain

02:55:24.33] by questions. So I haven't I

02:55:24.97] still haven't received a

02:55:25.60] written reply addressing

02:55:28.70] either Being told the matter

02:55:30.74] is close. Those questions

02:55:32.57] unanswered through project or

02:55:35.64] raised concerns about public

02:55:36.31] transparency. This records

02:55:36.91] dispute raises the same

02:55:38.61] question for me. Can residents

02:55:39.28] get clear explanations from

02:55:43.12] their city? I'm asking council

02:55:44.99] to help obtain a written

02:55:45.65] statement identifying which

02:55:46.86] response side. It's my of my

02:55:49.83] AUGUST 17th requests for

02:55:50.96] Britain grounds. When was it

02:55:51.93] provided by the city? Believes

02:55:52.63] the 72 hour requirement does

02:55:58.77] not apply. Thank you.

02:55:59.44] >> Next step we have Taylor

02:56:10.31] Gray.

02:56:14.55] >> It didn't sound. It's on.

02:56:19.27] Hi, everyone. So a couple

02:56:21.62] things I want to spit As far

02:56:22.79] as the notes that like the

02:56:23.49] minutes we were talking about

02:56:26.83] for the tourists. Stay. I also

02:56:29.13] watched the video and it was

02:56:29.83] very clear that it was muted.

02:56:32.14] It was also cut. And so it's

02:56:34.40] kind looks like if we never

02:56:36.31] know what our records are like

02:56:37.12] anyway. And also it's been a

02:56:39.71] lot of time doctor that. And

02:56:42.68] that's not record. So that

02:56:46.58] concerns me really want to

02:56:47.22] talk about villains and

02:56:50.25] heroes. So you know, villains

02:56:56.56] are. Experts at reasoning. The

02:56:57.56] reason themselves into being

02:56:58.16] okay with anything that

02:56:59.50] they've had to do. Where is

02:57:02.10] the hero? Is more likely to

02:57:05.77] reason with their heart and if

02:57:07.70] someone is in danger or

02:57:08.71] unsafe, they're going to make

02:57:10.88] decisions usually based on

02:57:14.16] that MAY lay down to sleep in

02:57:14.91] smile as they go to sleep

02:57:16.25] during while the wonderful

02:57:17.42] things that they've

02:57:18.87] accomplished and the great

02:57:21.19] relationships that's built

02:57:21.92] Avila, and we'll probably have

02:57:23.59] to go over some of the things

02:57:25.99] they did that day try to

02:57:26.62] decide and reason through

02:57:31.86] that. I know all of and you're

02:57:33.86] not villains. And so. I want

02:57:35.90] to make sure that of the

02:57:39.47] decisions that we're making.

02:57:40.14] If there's one person, one

02:57:42.21] single person are one thing.

02:57:42.91] It is unsafe once it is. And

02:57:47.41] that hurt. Let's make a

02:57:48.45] different decision. We will

02:57:50.82] stop accepting anything that,

02:57:51.45] you know, I think they've

02:57:52.75] brought up something really

02:57:54.99] important about, you know,

02:57:56.79] like police can shoot citizens

02:57:57.86] like it's going to happen. It

02:57:59.19] does or accidents. No one

02:57:59.89] plans for like this amount of

02:58:02.29] citizens to be

02:58:05.13] >> We We need to. Really make

02:58:07.67] sure that. Everything that we

02:58:11.60] do. Sits right with you. When

02:58:12.24] we talk about this Taurus

02:58:15.87] thing. Look, they're coming in

02:58:16.54] trying to take advantage of

02:58:19.61] that. We don't have laws for

02:58:20.31] low-frequency things. They're

02:58:24.75] trying to do this and I'm

02:58:25.82] gonna kind of year to cameras

02:58:27.75] because I I understand that

02:58:28.49] we're getting rid of flock and

02:58:29.19] we're moving the axon, which

02:58:32.29] is. The same people that do

02:58:35.33] like the body cameras Cars.

02:58:35.96] Will it stick to the body

02:58:38.80] cameras in the cars? You know?

02:58:41.73] I've grown up in the city and

02:58:43.41] I am not a criminal. I have

02:58:44.42] never thought to hurt or harm

02:58:46.97] something or someone, but I

02:58:47.47] would smash the s#

02:58:47.60] #

02:58:47.71] #

02:58:47.84] out of

02:58:49.78] those cameras, a carefree

02:58:50.91] because they my whole life has

02:58:51.54] made me feel in my heart

02:58:54.95] wrong. And so there MAY not be

02:58:56.92] a law against being police

02:58:59.12] state, but I believe our

02:58:59.82] police are completely capable

02:59:05.23] of doing their job without us.

02:59:06.73] Harming people and we all

02:59:07.46] harming people. We're the frog

02:59:11.36] sitting in the cattle, get

02:59:11.66] more somewhere somewhere

02:59:12.77] somewhere running out of time

02:59:14.33] before this technology thing

02:59:15.39] blows up. So I really hope we

02:59:19.94] can get Thanks.

02:59:22.28] >> Next step is Miller.

02:59:29.15] COUNCILMAN Donelson.

02:59:29.85] >> Thanks, MADAM PRESIDENT. I

02:59:30.88] just want to clarify with

02:59:33.25] either Michael Montgomery or

02:59:37.89] Sam to we are the recordings

02:59:38.76] of the different hearings and

02:59:42.46] our council sessions are they

02:59:43.46] added in any way? Do we clip

02:59:47.30] pieces out or is it just a

02:59:48.37] continuous recording of the

02:59:50.30] hearings were much tougher to

02:59:51.34] the city clerk 3rd term

02:59:52.97] massive. What we do is we go

02:59:53.54] in and we cut out the

02:59:56.44] recesses.

02:59:57.11] >> Just so it's a continued

02:59:58.98] flow of the tape. That's and

03:00:02.58] we time stamps. Someone goes

03:00:04.59] to look at an agenda item, we

03:00:07.56] we connect it to exactly where

03:00:08.36] that item

03:00:09.28] >> is discussed. But that's

03:00:11.19] the only other thing we can

03:00:11.89] do. The system doesn't allow

03:00:15.30] us to do anything else other

03:00:16.26] than remove the dead time in

03:00:16.93] the beginning or if there's

03:00:18.71] dead time in the middle,

03:00:22.14] that's all we can do.

03:00:23.27] >> The project Taurus hearing

03:00:24.97] is that if citizens notice,

03:00:26.78] hey it, it stops it starts

03:00:27.48] again. What was what was cut

03:00:30.41] out?

03:00:32.45] >> The recess periods on that

03:00:35.65] one k to my knowledge

03:00:36.65] communications, we did get

03:00:38.29] that one from communications

03:00:38.95] versus through the encoder

03:00:42.29] system that we use here. My

03:00:42.92] understanding is the only

03:00:45.76] thing that was compressed. On

03:00:47.53] that because it was so long

03:00:49.67] was the recess, the dead time

03:00:50.77] before the meeting starts the

03:00:52.70] the recess period, the dead

03:00:54.17] time before that and the dead

03:00:57.31] time I understand I'm. Okay

03:00:59.18] that we don't have the ability

03:01:01.24] did in the respect of other

03:01:02.78] than those simple things.

03:01:06.88] >> ok, thank you. And I hope

03:01:09.62] that that helps if there's a

03:01:10.29] specific request saying you

03:01:11.89] have, I think Sam might be

03:01:13.86] able like review it with you

03:01:14.49] and then bring it to our

03:01:15.16] attention. A few things are

03:01:15.86] some I think any human could

03:01:18.86] see. It was muted.

03:01:21.77] >> So I I just I don't want to

03:01:22.40] the main the sounds like

03:01:23.10] people would speak. And then,

03:01:24.47] you know, there was a lot of

03:01:25.17] disruption afternoon speaker,

03:01:27.74] you did war. How come you're

03:01:30.37] not hearing any of the

03:01:31.41] disruption throughout the

03:01:32.80] entire or so things like no

03:01:32.74] destruction. And I think at

03:01:34.41] that hearing, like when

03:01:35.45] someone's time it ended like

03:01:36.85] their 3 minutes they were

03:01:41.12] muted. Is that right? Correct?

03:01:41.79] Yeah. Security I'm talking

03:01:42.55] about because so you turn the

03:01:44.16] mikes off. So that muted the

03:01:45.42] whole room for rush? Yes, I

03:01:46.16] don't think we should be

03:01:46.82] misrepresenting like that.

03:01:50.13] That is what happens there.

03:01:51.33] Well, yeah, it's not

03:01:52.26] misrepresented. That's what

03:01:54.20] happened. They muted one over

03:01:55.43] 3 minutes. They stopped you

03:01:57.20] its 3 minutes. We couldn't

03:01:58.17] hear you either. Did notice

03:01:59.47] that it was different there

03:02:00.17] that it did muted afterwards.

03:02:00.87] So maybe it didn't pick it

03:02:04.46] out. But I heard a lot of

03:02:04.78] their background stuff such as

03:02:08.31] site. I don't know. It's it's

03:02:08.91] pretty rare, ok? Well,

03:02:09.55] hopefully that's helpful.

03:02:16.95] Thanks. Kayla Mueller. Hello

03:02:19.76] City Council. I'm very

03:02:20.89] thankful to be standing before

03:02:23.73] you today

03:02:24.40] >> strong healthy body that

03:02:27.37] provides for all of my needs.

03:02:27.77] >> The first thing that I want

03:02:30.73] to talk about today is that we

03:02:31.10] tack the Cspd Accountability

03:02:33.76] Board the solved in APRIL of

03:02:33.74] this year and has not been

03:02:37.71] replaced. In any shape or

03:02:39.18] form. You have people that are

03:02:42.25] literally school age, middle

03:02:43.42] school, high school, doing all

03:02:44.12] of the research, finding all

03:02:45.38] of legality submitting

03:02:48.59] requests that are legal

03:02:49.25] legally founded grounded in

03:02:51.69] legal precedent. And there's

03:02:53.43] still no accountability.

03:02:55.69] There. Also like to bring up

03:02:57.70] that again. The project Taurus

03:02:59.97] meeting. You guys made the

03:03:00.70] decision to move the vote to a

03:03:01.90] day where you could not be

03:03:02.54] held accountable for your

03:03:06.20] vote. Which is just another

03:03:07.44] thing that has absolutely no

03:03:11.78] accountability. In addition,

03:03:13.58] as has been mentioned before

03:03:14.71] Cspd is announcing that

03:03:16.25] they're moving even more acts

03:03:20.32] on pr, license plates, bears

03:03:22.22] lprs are a violation of every

03:03:23.29] single person in this room is

03:03:24.12] constitutional rights because

03:03:24.86] it is warrantless surveillance

03:03:29.33] by definition. In addition,

03:03:29.96] acts on is a Trump funded

03:03:31.63] company. It isn't. Epstein

03:03:34.70] founded company. But you're

03:03:35.47] right at the back. In

03:03:39.21] addition. Cara Springs

03:03:40.67] utility, but to get its ceo

03:03:43.84] Travis, a raise. And this

03:03:45.51] comes on top of csu is budget

03:03:46.81] increasing by 50% over the

03:03:47.41] last 2 years. Which is

03:03:49.52] awesome. I love that. I'm also

03:03:51.42] not saying that Travis

03:03:53.49] shouldn't be paid the amount

03:03:54.35] that he's being paid. I think

03:03:55.92] it's great that we're paying

03:03:56.66] our people out and giving them

03:03:57.39] paid days off. I love that you

03:04:00.53] guys did that. But if doing

03:04:01.56] that, we need to also be

03:04:02.23] giving the beneficiaries of

03:04:04.57] utility the raise as well.

03:04:05.23] Here's what I'm asking for

03:04:09.47] today. For staff move the

03:04:10.17] project tourist boat to a day

03:04:10.87] when you can be held account

03:04:14.21] for your votes sometime in

03:04:14.91] FEBRUARY MARCH. That's plenty

03:04:17.21] of time for. Billion dollar

03:04:19.75] company to submit a report.

03:04:20.68] Secondly, Foreman

03:04:23.62] Accountability Board for Cspd.

03:04:24.59] It's embarrassing that we

03:04:25.35] don't have one. We're watching

03:04:26.58] the consequences of it every

03:04:29.49] single day. And the more time

03:04:30.46] that passes without you

03:04:31.73] forming an accountability

03:04:32.46] board. He messier and messier.

03:04:35.00] This gets for all of you. In

03:04:36.20] addition, I would like to

03:04:38.30] point out that Jason Green

03:04:39.13] after the project Taurus

03:04:39.87] meeting specifically posted a

03:04:42.24] public statement that he was

03:04:43.24] disappointed in. Kimberly,

03:04:47.34] Dave and Nancy in JANUARY.

03:04:49.82] There's a situation where

03:04:50.38] Kimberly posted the Dave

03:04:51.17] marched out of the room.

03:04:51.75] Institutions served for saying

03:04:53.25] that excuse me, stumbling over

03:04:55.18] that word. If you as a body

03:04:57.32] are going to protect

03:04:58.49] yourselves and your own which

03:04:59.45] I love the you guys are doing,

03:05:00.16] we need to protect be

03:05:02.12] protecting all of us.

03:05:04.97] Unequivocally a ceo from

03:05:05.65] California does not get to

03:05:06.16] come and say to my city

03:05:06.80] council members that he's

03:05:08.96] disappointed in that to the 3

03:05:10.27] of you. Thank you very much

03:05:11.83] for standing on business.

03:05:12.57] Thank you very much for seeing

03:05:13.17] the facts. We genuinely

03:05:16.44] appreciate it. Accountability

03:05:17.77] in place, please. It will

03:05:21.31] literally look good for you.

03:05:22.45] >> Except Chrissy.

03:05:30.45] >> Morgan ii.

03:05:31.75] >> Council members, my name is

03:05:32.42] Christine Morgan, thank you

03:05:33.92] for this opportunity to be

03:05:34.96] here today on NOVEMBER 5th, my

03:05:37.39] companion of 10 years was 10

03:05:38.33] trapped. I did what any person

03:05:40.67] would do. And I called 9-1-1

03:05:41.86] for help. Well waiting, I also

03:05:42.50] reached out to animal law

03:05:43.97] enforcement and my kitchen

03:05:46.74] area. My call for help lead to

03:05:47.64] hours of my detainment by

03:05:48.37] cspd. Well, my that was on

03:05:49.76] site at ministering pain meds

03:05:52.64] and then about it for his

03:05:53.38] injuries. Officers officers

03:05:53.98] were rewriting a search

03:05:55.65] warrant to seize Mike up for

03:05:57.21] me. He was taken from a

03:05:57.88] property that night. Well,

03:06:00.58] officers on their room cameras

03:06:01.28] talked about eating goat many

03:06:03.62] worse things than that and

03:06:06.96] admitted their lack of

03:06:07.89] jurisdiction. He was given

03:06:13.68] hsppr and a probable cause.

03:06:13.93] Hearing was scheduled for 10

03:06:14.63] days later. It deemed moot

03:06:16.67] because they killed him on the

03:06:17.67] 9th day. The day before my

03:06:21.64] hearing. And now on APRIL 13th

03:06:22.51] of this year. And that was 3

03:06:23.87] years ago on APRIL 13th this

03:06:29.25] You guys approved the council

03:06:29.95] approved the use of taxpayer

03:06:30.58] funds to defend the city

03:06:33.88] against my claims. And on that

03:06:35.57] same day, internal affairs

03:06:37.25] with Cspd division has

03:06:38.56] sustained one of the reported

03:06:40.22] the reports that I made

03:06:42.33] against him. So I'm here today

03:06:42.93] to ask how much of the

03:06:44.26] public's money has the city

03:06:45.53] spent over the last 6 years

03:06:46.60] defending the actions taken

03:06:49.47] against this one goat? The

03:06:50.64] taxpayers deserve to know

03:06:51.50] exactly how much has been

03:06:53.30] funneled into legal fees and

03:06:55.31] shield office officers and

03:06:55.97] agencies that have already

03:06:56.67] been found to be in violation

03:07:00.50] of city policy. It is. Is it

03:07:01.85] truly the city's a priority to

03:07:03.12] spend thousands of taxpayer

03:07:03.98] dollars to defend conduct that

03:07:04.58] your own department has

03:07:08.19] admitted was wrong. I'm asking

03:07:08.89] for full public accounting of

03:07:10.89] these legal expenditures. I'm

03:07:11.96] looking for transparency and

03:07:12.56] accountability from the

03:07:13.29] government that is supposed to

03:07:15.99] serve us all. If there are any

03:07:16.66] citizens are advocates who

03:07:17.96] believe in government

03:07:18.70] transparency and want to learn

03:07:19.43] more about how our tax dollars

03:07:21.97] are being used in this matter.

03:07:22.77] Please reach out to me. My

03:07:23.67] goat, not yours at g Mail dot

03:07:28.21] com. The public has a right to

03:07:28.91] know what they're paying for.

03:07:29.54] And I appreciate all your