2026-09-29 - City Council

05:49I'd like to call the Anaheim City

05:51Council meeting to order pursuant to

05:53SB77.

05:55This meeting will include in person and

05:57remote participation via webinar. Clerk,

06:00can you please call roll?

06:01>> Thank you, Mayor. Council member Bis,

06:03>> present.

06:04>> Council member Curts,

06:05>> here.

06:06>> Council member Mos

06:07>> here.

06:08>> Council member Meeks,

06:09>> here. Mayor Pro Timone

06:10>> present.

06:11>> Mayor Aken

06:12>> present.

06:12>> Let the record show we have six members

06:14present.

06:15>> Clerk, are there any additions or

06:16deletions to the close session agenda?

06:18>> Mayor, there are none.

06:19>> Do we have any public speakers to come

06:21forward to address the closed session

06:22agenda?

06:23>> Mayor noting we don't have any inerson

06:25speakers and we did not receive any

06:26requests for remote comments and noting

06:29for the record we did not receive any

06:30public um comments electronically on the

06:32close session agenda.

06:33>> Thank you so much for that. So hearing

06:35none, we will close public comment on

06:36the closed session agenda and recess to

06:38close session. Thank you.

2:07:12attorney.

2:07:13>> Oh, that is true. We don't have an

2:09:07Good evening everyone.

2:09:11So, I'd like to reconvene the Anaheim

2:09:14City Council back to order. Pursuant to

2:09:17SB77,

2:09:19this meeting will include in person.

2:09:21Excuse me. Can I have everyone quiet

2:09:23down, please? Thank you so much. The

2:09:26first item on our agenda is an

2:09:28invocation that will be offered this

2:09:30evening by Reverend Dr. Joel Van Solen

2:09:33from Anaheim Christian Reform Church.

2:09:36Follow that, I'm going to ask the mayor

2:09:37prom to please lead us in the pledge of

2:09:39allegiance. If you are able, please

2:09:42stand.

2:09:45>> Thank you, honorable mayor. Please pray

2:09:47with me. Almighty God, Father, Son, and

2:09:50Holy Spirit, we thank you for this

2:09:51beautiful day that you have made. We

2:09:53thank you for the opportunity to be here

2:09:55together this evening and we ask for

2:09:57your blessing on the Anaheim City

2:09:58Council meeting. We pray for peace and

2:10:01unity in our city. We pray that the

2:10:02truth would be believed in and lies

2:10:04would be exposed. We ask for your

2:10:07wisdom, humility, and strength to be

2:10:09with our leaders for Mayor Aken and the

2:10:11city council members and all the staff

2:10:13and employees of the city. Lord, we ask

2:10:16for your protection, peace, and

2:10:17provision to be with the Anaheim Police

2:10:19Department and the fire department. Help

2:10:22them to be at their best when others are

2:10:23going through their worst. Lord, we

2:10:25thank you for your provision in our city

2:10:27of public works. Thank you for water,

2:10:28for power, for the presentations that

2:10:30will be made tonight. Lord, we thank you

2:10:32for all the businesses, nonprofits,

2:10:34faith communities, and schools in

2:10:35Anaheim. We thank you for each resident

2:10:37and visitor to our city. And we ask that

2:10:40you would continue to watch over and

2:10:41provide for this beautiful city that

2:10:43each person may flourish and grow in

2:10:45grace and peace. In Jesus name we pray.

2:10:49Amen. Amen.

2:10:53Please uh place your right hand over

2:10:54your heart. I pledge allegiance

2:10:57>> to the flag of the United States of

2:10:59America to the stands nation

2:11:08for all

2:11:11America.

2:11:32So, we have one presentation tonight.

2:11:34Tonight, we are recognizing a check

2:11:36presentation from the Anaheim Police

2:11:38Foundation to our mounted enforcement

2:11:41unit. Our city's mounted unit dates back

2:11:44to 1995.

2:11:47Oh, was like that was in high school.

2:11:49Since then, the team has grown and

2:11:51become an important part of our public

2:11:53safety efforts. They patrol

2:11:55neighborhoods to help deter crime and

2:11:58provide a visible presence in our

2:11:59community. And of course, they spend

2:12:03time engaging with all of our residents

2:12:06because if anyone has been to one of our

2:12:08national nights out, if anytime they see

2:12:11these in the community, kids go right

2:12:13past us and they want to pet a horse.

2:12:16So, we thank them for bringing our furry

2:12:18friends out to parades and to community

2:12:22events.

2:12:23So, as much as I did ask and try, they

2:12:26did tell me that I couldn't bring in and

2:12:28honor an actual horse tonight.

2:12:31The mounting unit also plays a critical

2:12:33role in helping with crowd control, the

2:12:36abatement efforts, search and rescue

2:12:39operations, and much more. Every horse

2:12:42is personally owned by one of our

2:12:44officers. So donations like this are

2:12:46incredibly helpful in covering the cost

2:12:49of their care, including [snorts] their

2:12:51veterary needs, grooming supplies, and

2:12:54first aid equipment. I bet you spend

2:12:56more on your horses grooming supplies

2:12:58than you even do on your own, right?

2:13:01[laughter]

2:13:02Thank you so much to the Anaheim Police

2:13:04Foundation for all the work they have

2:13:05put in to raise these funds. And a

2:13:08special thanks to our mounted officers

2:13:09and their horses for all they do to keep

2:13:12Anaheim safe. And I'd now like to

2:13:14welcome up welcome up the police

2:13:16foundation board as well as some words

2:13:19from our former chief George [snorts]

2:13:20Cisneros

2:13:24[applause]

2:13:35[laughter]

2:13:40>> in the back row. I'll stand. stand in

2:13:43front of you.

2:13:44>> We take pictures

2:13:46will eventually

2:14:00>> Well, life has uh provided spectacles

2:14:02for me now. All right. Good evening,

2:14:05Mayor, City Council, and Chief Sid and

2:14:08the rest of the community. The Anaheim

2:14:10Police Foundation is an independent

2:14:12nonprofit organization that supports the

2:14:15Anaheim Police Department's mission by

2:14:17providing crucial funding in the

2:14:19following categories: investing in

2:14:21state-of-the-art equipment and

2:14:23innovative technology. Offering advanced

2:14:26professional development and training

2:14:28opportunities and supporting the safety

2:14:30and wellness of all Anaheim Police

2:14:32Department personnel. our board of

2:14:34direct directors whom are behind me

2:14:36today

2:14:39provide uh countless hours and share

2:14:42their expertise to better this community

2:14:44at no cost. Today we are here to present

2:14:47a $100,000 check to the city to support

2:14:50the Anaheim Police Department mounted

2:14:52unit specifically for developing a local

2:14:55training facility.

2:14:57The facility will enhance the unit's

2:14:59capabilities and strengthen crime

2:15:01prevention and deterrence, directed

2:15:03enforcement, crowd control operations,

2:15:06and community engagement. Lastly, on

2:15:08behalf of our board, we would like to

2:15:10thank our donors as this would not be

2:15:12possible without them.

2:15:16[applause]

2:16:16Justice for Alberta.

2:17:56So, next on our agenda are recognitions

2:17:58to be presented at a later date. Clerk,

2:18:00can you please announce them?

2:18:02>> Thank you, mayor. We have three this

2:18:03evening. Recognizing October 3rd through

2:18:06the 11th as California Water

2:18:08Professionals Appreciation Week,

2:18:10recognizing October 4th through the 10th

2:18:12as Public Power Week and recognizing

2:18:14October the month of October 2026 as

2:18:17National Community Planning Month. And

2:18:19mayor, City Council, we do have

2:18:20representatives to accept two of the

2:18:23recognitions. The first for California

2:18:25Water Professionals Appreciation Week.

2:18:27If the representative could please step

2:18:28forward.

2:18:40>> Yes.

2:18:54Good evening, Mayor, mayor prom and

2:18:57council members. My name is Madvi Vora

2:19:00and I'm a senior and civil engineer in

2:19:02water planning and development work

2:19:04group for Anaheim public utilities. Our

2:19:07team is responsible for planning, design

2:19:10and reviews of public water

2:19:12infrastructure to support residential

2:19:14and commercial development projects. We

2:19:17ensure that our water system can support

2:19:19portable water and fire suppression

2:19:22demands for these development projects.

2:19:25As a part of California Water

2:19:27Professional Appreciation Week, we

2:19:29appreciate the opportunity to highlight

2:19:32the important role of water industry

2:19:34professionals and local public water

2:19:36agencies in ensuring safe and reliable

2:19:39water services for the Anaheim

2:19:41community. The city's water system was

2:19:44established in 1879

2:19:46and for well over a century water

2:19:49professionals have worked diligently to

2:19:51improve our water system as a city has

2:19:54grown. Our water supplies are precious

2:19:58and we want to remind our customers to

2:20:00be water smart and adv take advantage of

2:20:04efficiency programs and turf replacement

2:20:07rebates as ways to conserve and save

2:20:10utility bills.

2:20:13For more information, we invite

2:20:15customers to visit anahim.netwater.

2:20:21Thank you for your recognition of

2:20:23California Water Professional

2:20:24Appreciation Week

2:20:26>> and thank you for all you do for our

2:20:28utilities.

2:20:29>> Thank you.

2:20:31[applause]

2:20:35>> And now we have a representative for

2:20:36public power week. Power. Good evening,

2:20:39mayor, mayor prom, and council members.

2:20:42My name is Tanya Castana, and I'm the

2:20:44community and sustainability programs

2:20:46manager at Anaheim Public Utilities. On

2:20:48behalf of the utility, we thank you for

2:20:50this proclamation. Public Power Week is

2:20:53celebrated nationwide by more than 2,000

2:20:56communities who own and operate their

2:20:59own locallyowned electric utility, just

2:21:02like Anaheim. Why is that important?

2:21:04because it highlights the value of a

2:21:07municipallyowned

2:21:09utility and our mission which is to

2:21:12provide reliable and affordable electric

2:21:14service while remaining dedicated and

2:21:16actively engaged to the community we

2:21:18serve. So this year we're celebrating

2:21:21public power week by inviting local

2:21:23elementary school students from Lincoln

2:21:25Elementary on October 6 to the

2:21:28sustainability education center. They'll

2:21:30get a chance to learn all about how um

2:21:33energy gets to their home, how to be

2:21:36safe around power lines, and more

2:21:38importantly, all the career

2:21:40opportunities in public service. So,

2:21:43Public Power Week builds upon our

2:21:44outreach efforts every year, and it's a

2:21:46special opportunity to connect with the

2:21:49next generation on all the career

2:21:51opportunities here in Anaheim. Once

2:21:53again, council, we thank you for this

2:21:55proclamation.

2:21:56>> Thank you so much for coming.

2:22:00>> [applause]

2:22:04>> So, Madame Clerk, are there any

2:22:05additions or deletions to tonight's

2:22:07agenda?

2:22:07>> Mayor, there are none.

2:22:09>> Can you please outline the public

2:22:10comment procedures and call forward the

2:22:13first several speakers to address the

2:22:15agenda?

2:22:16>> Thank you, Mayor. Speakers have one

2:22:18opportunity to address the city council.

2:22:21The first public comment period is

2:22:22limited to 90 minutes or until all

2:22:25agenda item speakers have been heard.

2:22:27Any time remaining of the 90 minutes

2:22:29will be provided to speakers who wish to

2:22:31speak on any non-aggenda related items

2:22:33but within the council's jurisdiction. A

2:22:36second public comment period will be

2:22:37open by the mayor only if any

2:22:39non-aggenda item speakers were not heard

2:22:42during this first public comment and it

2:22:44will be open at the end of council

2:22:46business. The time limit for public

2:22:48comments is three minutes per speaker.

2:22:51In compliance with California Senate

2:22:52bill, remote public participation is

2:22:54available at all city council meetings.

2:22:57Members of the public wishing to address

2:22:59the city council remotely must submit a

2:23:01remote speaker card available at

2:23:03anaheim.net/counsel

2:23:06webinar. Detailed public participation

2:23:09information can be found on the city's

2:23:10website as well as on the published

2:23:12agenda. For in-person participants,

2:23:15speaker cards are available at the back

2:23:17of the council chambers. The name and

2:23:19contact information requested on the

2:23:21speaker card is optional. Any

2:23:23unidentified speaker will be called by

2:23:25the speaker card number. Remote

2:23:28participants will be called to speak

2:23:29following in-person speakers. At this

2:23:32time, I'd also like to announce that

2:23:34Spanish interpreting services are

2:23:36provided at every city council meeting.

2:23:39Simultaneous Spanish interpretation is

2:23:41provided through the use of headsets and

2:23:43consecutive interpretation is available

2:23:45to anyone who would like to address the

2:23:46city council. For those members

2:23:48participating remotely, the webinar

2:23:51supports supports automated live

2:23:53captions in multiple languages,

2:23:55including Spanish. For translation

2:23:57services in other language, we ask that

2:23:59you please contact the city clerk's

2:24:01office at least 48 hours prior to the

2:24:03scheduled meeting. At this time, I'd

2:24:05like to introduce our interpreter, who

2:24:07make the same announcement in Spanish.

2:24:26participary

2:24:40municipal.

2:24:46At this time, on behalf of the city

2:24:47council, we would like to remind the

2:24:49public that Anaheim remains committed to

2:24:51freedom of speech. And we ask that

2:24:53speakers address the city council with

2:24:55civility and refrain for making per

2:24:57personal, threatening, abusive,

2:24:59slanderous, or profane remarks towards

2:25:01any member of the council, staff, or

2:25:03general public. We appreciate you

2:25:05reflecting the spirit when you speak.

2:25:07The time now is 5:19 with the 90minute

2:25:10public comment period set to conclude at

2:25:126:49 or until all agenda item speakers

2:25:15have been heard. We ask that speakers

2:25:17line up at the podium once they see

2:25:19their name appear on the projection

2:25:20screen behind me. For those

2:25:23participating remotely, you'll be called

2:25:25at the appropriate time. And mayor and

2:25:27city council for agenda item speakers,

2:25:30we have nine speakers. And if the first

2:25:32speaker can please come forward are

2:25:34Joshua Collins,

2:25:43Good afternoon, mayor and council. My

2:25:44name is R. Joshua Collins, founder of

2:25:46Homeless Advocates for Christ, also the

2:25:48author of the book Preaching on

2:25:49Persecution in Sin City, my true story.

2:25:52How I got involved in activism work for

2:25:54the homeless. And unfortunately, I've

2:25:56seen a lot of the the same situation

2:25:58here in Anaheim is in Las Vegas where

2:26:01the poor are oppressed and often times

2:26:03their rights are violated. I'm here once

2:26:06again to ask uh this council to address

2:26:08a very specific problem, safe parking

2:26:09for people who are living in their

2:26:10vehicles in Anaheim. I brought this

2:26:12request before you multi at multiple

2:26:14meetings. I've submitted a petition with

2:26:16more than 100 signatures from people who

2:26:18are asking Anaheim to take this issue

2:26:19seriously. The petition has been

2:26:21received by the city of Anaheim. But

2:26:23despite those signatures, despite my

2:26:24repeated requests, despite bringing this

2:26:26issue before you, meeting after meeting,

2:26:28I still have not seen this matter placed

2:26:29on the agenda for meaningful discussion

2:26:31and action tonight. Again, I'm asking

2:26:34for a simple question. How many more

2:26:36times do we have to ask that for this

2:26:38before it'll be put on the agenda? You

2:26:40all know I've been uh bringing to you

2:26:41homeless mothers with children as well

2:26:43as elderly homeless people to this

2:26:45council meeting needing help and still

2:26:47no response regarding this uh safe

2:26:49parking issue. These cars and vehicles

2:26:52are homes of many who can't afford the

2:26:54everinccreasing rent prices due to the

2:26:56lack of rent control. There are people

2:26:59sleeping in vehicles because they have

2:27:00nowhere else to go. Some are working,

2:27:02some are elderly, some are disabled,

2:27:04some are mothers, some are victims of a

2:27:06system that left them unable to afford

2:27:07the housing they need. When someone has

2:27:10to sleep in their car, where are they

2:27:11supposed to park? They need somewhere

2:27:14that's safe, legal, sanitary, and

2:27:15organized. A place where they can sleep

2:27:17without constantly wandering whether

2:27:18they are going to be attacked, ticketed,

2:27:21towed, or forced to move in the middle

2:27:22of the night. So, I ask the council once

2:27:25again to get this on the agenda. Uh the

2:27:28petition can be found for those you'd

2:27:29like to sign it and share it at my

2:27:31website httpsrjshuins.wordpress.com.

2:27:38That's https

2:27:40colon/rjoshuains.wordpress.com.

2:27:45I'm asking you tonight to acknowledge

2:27:46this petition, acknowledge these

2:27:47residents residents and give this issue

2:27:49the public discussion and needed

2:27:51recognition it deserves. Please put this

2:27:53on the agenda. Also, I ask for justice

2:27:56for Albert Arzola as well. The the the

2:28:01council uh unfortunately hasn't done

2:28:03enough, I believe, either for that

2:28:05situation. What if that was your your

2:28:07family member where that happened? Why

2:28:09is it that also the in my opinion uh

2:28:12they they should be equal? If if someone

2:28:14in this uh chamber here killed somebody

2:28:16that isn't on the council or isn't a

2:28:18police officer, how would they be

2:28:20treated? And why aren't the police

2:28:21officers treated the same way?

2:28:24It's not right.

2:28:25>> We need to have equal justice for for

2:28:28everyone in this city. Again, please put

2:28:30safe parking on the agenda and thank you

2:28:33for your time.

2:28:35>> We'll have our next speaker.

2:28:39>> Heal.

2:28:41Good afternoon, Running Deer Clan,

2:28:43Obsidian Knife Clan, Tebati, Heart of

2:28:45Mountain Clan. Item number uh eight. Um

2:28:50it's very interesting that we have this.

2:28:52This is good that we preserve the oak

2:28:53trees for a lot of those that don't know

2:28:55or some of you that don't know. That's

2:28:57where we um our ancestors use the way

2:29:00that's how you say acorns and it's very

2:29:02important that they get that funding

2:29:03that revenue for the oak center. I know

2:29:06we have the um the festival up there and

2:29:08it's very important that we um save our

2:29:10oak trees because I know for the tanga

2:29:13the kish or gabilenos or gabilenas

2:29:15gabenos is gabenas is what the Spanish

2:29:17colonist concisadors call them or the

2:29:20gabs is what the colonist English

2:29:22pilgrims call them as well but um yes we

2:29:26we must um protect the oak trees it's

2:29:28very important uh many tribes like

2:29:30pachanga patcha mamy or which is the

2:29:33original the homeland is in tekku

2:29:36And um I I believe these doctors uh

2:29:38should get these um this this revenue,

2:29:41this funding. The last thing is item

2:29:43number 15, the um policy code. Yeah, we

2:29:47need to go over that because I read the

2:29:49uh term historic and we have old history

2:29:52here and I believe there's some down the

2:29:55um uh center street where you see the

2:29:58two tongo baskets in the uh the story of

2:30:00the coyote the coyote the running with

2:30:03the river the water trying to compete

2:30:05with the with the at with the water. By

2:30:08the way, the word Seattle, Atlantic,

2:30:10Atlanta is nawat before the coming of

2:30:12the colonist Europeans, white people

2:30:15without without respect to our white

2:30:17allies, not to the Trump supporters. Um,

2:30:21I uh would like to say also that um

2:30:25I'm very uh happy how the city is uh

2:30:29actually is working with the city uh

2:30:32school board or the city council with

2:30:33having the change of the grass. It's

2:30:36important. We never had grass here. Uh,

2:30:38sakatal is a nawa word. In Spanish, in

2:30:41Spain, they say pasto for those of you

2:30:43that didn't know. Um, and I hope that uh

2:30:46we keep decolonizing, not just the uh

2:30:49racist school mascots like uh Savannah

2:30:52rebels, right? The Confederate flags at

2:30:53Savannah High School and Anaheim High

2:30:55School. The colonist. They got rid of

2:30:56the mascot mayor, but they didn't get

2:30:59rid of the name of the colonist. And

2:31:00you, as a mayor, I hope you should be

2:31:03removed because of your racist remarks.

2:31:05because you don't represent our people.

2:31:07We are the majority. I really believe we

2:31:10have I think we're the majority now. I

2:31:13hear 50 60%. We're like 80 90% here

2:31:15indigenous. Mashika Mexican indigenous

2:31:17choices.

2:31:19We are natives before the colonists came

2:31:21and put these borders and their uh their

2:31:23flags that have blood that's got blood

2:31:25in the history, right? So yeah, let's

2:31:27protect that. And the last part is I

2:31:29want to thank Senator James Ramos Aino

2:31:30Valencia for supporting bill uh 1881 for

2:31:35the first Native American paid uh

2:31:36holiday. Let's take it to the federal

2:31:38level and let's change the name of home.

2:31:39So we need a cho city mayor that

2:31:41represents and hear us because I've

2:31:42never heard you say anything about the

2:31:44colonize the calling petition. We have

2:31:45like 16,000 signatures to remove that

2:31:47name. Please step please step it up or

2:31:49we'll vote you out. Thank you.

2:31:51>> Our next speaker

2:31:56>> our next speaker Megan

2:32:02>> [clears throat]

2:32:02>> Good evening. My name is Megan Shyo and

2:32:05I'm a resident of downtown Anaheim. I

2:32:07live on Clementine Street, which is a

2:32:10historic street in the Victor Lai House.

2:32:12It's about a hundred years old. And I am

2:32:15the chair of the historic preservation

2:32:17committee and I've been on the committee

2:32:18for over 20 years. I've been a volunteer

2:32:21in Anaheim's historic preservation along

2:32:24with uh some of my friends that are

2:32:25here. wave your hands from the historic

2:32:27preservation committee. They've put in a

2:32:29lot of hours and we've been working with

2:32:31staff for um and Natalie Rubikava for uh

2:32:35item number 15, which is receive a

2:32:38presentation and provide direction to

2:32:40staff regarding potential changes to

2:32:42historic preservation policy, including

2:32:45recommended options for possible

2:32:47amendments to the municipal code. And I

2:32:50wanted to just talk to you quickly today

2:32:52in support of this moving forward

2:32:56because um every vibrant city is is

2:33:00defined by a district, a sense of place.

2:33:02Our historic homes, commercial

2:33:04corridors, and neighborhood streetscapes

2:33:06tell the story of who we are and who we

2:33:09were. Once lost to unchecked demolition

2:33:12in comp uh in oh I can't read it right

2:33:16now. anyway, development that does not

2:33:19fit in with historic structures that

2:33:21history cannot be rebuilt. The ordinance

2:33:24provides a clear and thoughtful

2:33:26framework for our community needs to

2:33:28protect that legacy. And um it also

2:33:33helps to clarify predictability for

2:33:35homeowners and builders without any sort

2:33:38of ordinance to protect historic

2:33:40structures. Planning decisions can feel

2:33:43arbitrary or reactive, but a formal

2:33:45preservation ordinance establishes

2:33:47transparent standards, clear review

2:33:50policies, and access to valuable

2:33:52incentives such as the Mills Act program

2:33:55or um any other programs that are

2:33:57available. could really streamline

2:33:59building and development downtown and

2:34:02around historic properties because we

2:34:04don't have those clear guidelines now uh

2:34:07as far as size. You know, three stories,

2:34:09five stories over someone's little

2:34:11historic home that they've preserved

2:34:14over the last hundred and something

2:34:15years. There's got to be a happy medium

2:34:17that we can put into place that we can

2:34:19all coexist with new development and

2:34:24what the state has put to burden you

2:34:27with, you know, what you need to do and

2:34:29also with historic preservation. So, we

2:34:32appreciate your support with staff and

2:34:35moving forward with this and we

2:34:38appreciate your time tonight reviewing

2:34:39it. Thank you.

2:34:44[applause]

2:34:45our next speaker.

2:34:51>> All right. Hello. My name is Matt and

2:34:53I'm here as a member of Community

2:34:54Service Organization Orange County.

2:34:58I'm here alongside the family of Albert

2:34:59Arzola to demand Anaheim Police Chief

2:35:01Manuel Sid fire killer cop Nathan

2:35:04Garcia.

2:35:05>> It has been nine months and there are

2:35:07still many questions the family still

2:35:09have and many things that have still are

2:35:11that are still being hidden. One of

2:35:13these things includes the autopsy

2:35:14report. How can nine months go by and

2:35:17they still don't have an autopsy report

2:35:19for their own family member. Nine months

2:35:21and we still have a killer cop roaming

2:35:23the streets of Anaheim. Aren't the

2:35:25police supposed to make us safe? How can

2:35:27a killer who hides behind his badge make

2:35:29us safe? As long as Anaheim PD continues

2:35:32to kill with zero accountability, we

2:35:34will never be safe. The working-class

2:35:36chicos all around this country will

2:35:38never be safe. For those on this council

2:35:41who support the police, how would you

2:35:42feel if your child was killed by the

2:35:44cops and months later you barely know

2:35:46anything? That's the situation the zolas

2:35:48are in. That's the situation many

2:35:51families are in since Anaheim PD is so

2:35:53trigger-happy. They kill working-class

2:35:55chicos time and time again. All while

2:35:58this council sits idly by or while the

2:36:00mayor decides to make racist remarks.

2:36:02This racism used by the mayor is the

2:36:04same racism used to justify killing

2:36:06working-class chicos. The police

2:36:09constantly deny their own racism, but

2:36:11their history of killings tells a

2:36:13different story. Anaheim PD is actively

2:36:16trying to hide it. They suspended their

2:36:17support of the mayor in order to try and

2:36:19make themselves look good. However, the

2:36:21residents of Anaheim, which includes the

2:36:23Ozola family, will never forget. It was

2:36:26their son, their brother, and their

2:36:27nephew who was killed. Anaheim PD can

2:36:30try and try to protect themselves, but

2:36:32we will never let anyone forget the

2:36:33countless lives they have taken. We

2:36:36demand the immediate release of the

2:36:38Albert Arzola autopsy report. We demand

2:36:40that police chief Manuel Sid, who was

2:36:42just here, fire killer cop Nathan

2:36:44Garcia. And we demand justice for Albert

2:36:46Arzola.

2:36:52>> We'll have our next speaker.

2:36:55>> Mayor, council members, I have lived in

2:36:58Anaheim for 17 years. I voted for some

2:37:02of you. Um, when my neighbors are okay,

2:37:05I'm okay. But my neighbors are not okay.

2:37:08On August 28th, 2018, city council

2:37:11adopted an affordable housing policy

2:37:13that said affordable housing is a

2:37:16priority in the city of Anaheim. Yet,

2:37:18according to the California Department

2:37:20of Housing and Community Development,

2:37:22last year, out of 10,083

2:37:25completed housing projects in Anaheim,

2:37:28less than 10% were affordable for low to

2:37:31moderate income families. In 2017, city

2:37:36council established a housing and

2:37:38community development commission to help

2:37:40the council hear from members of our

2:37:42community how to make Anaheim better for

2:37:44all its residents. Council members and

2:37:46mayor, when is the last time that you

2:37:48attended one of these meetings

2:37:51for the Housing and Development

2:37:53Commission?

2:37:54When is the last time you requested a po

2:37:57a report from this commission? When is

2:38:00the last time you asked my neighbors how

2:38:02you could make our neighborhoods better

2:38:03for all of us? Families who have lived

2:38:06here for generations are having to leave

2:38:08Anaheim to move to more affordable

2:38:10areas. City tree branches are crashing

2:38:13down on top of pedestrians and vehicles.

2:38:15I had to personally pay a tree trimmer

2:38:18to come and cut back the city's trees on

2:38:21my property. And yes, I got permission

2:38:23from the city

2:38:25because my neighbor had a branch fall

2:38:28and crash on um vehicles that had were

2:38:31parked outside of his house. And when I

2:38:33called city council to talk about the

2:38:35tree problem in our in our neighborhood,

2:38:37they told me that they could not even

2:38:39tell me when they would be able to come

2:38:42out.

2:38:44So, I just took care of it myself

2:38:46because I don't want to a branch to fall

2:38:48on one of my pedestrian neighbors.

2:38:54Um, I have uh my apartment dwelling

2:38:57neighbors have mold in their units that

2:38:59their landlords refuse to address. Ask

2:39:01anyone in this room and they'll tell you

2:39:03the parking situation in our

2:39:04neighborhoods is completely impractical.

2:39:07I have been to Anaheim City Council

2:39:10meetings for the last eight months and

2:39:12I've noticed a pattern. My neighbors

2:39:14come to this microphone and share our

2:39:15concerns about rent stabilization,

2:39:18transparency about the water from our

2:39:19faucet, surveillance of law-abiding

2:39:21citizens with the unlawful installation

2:39:23of ALPR cameras, street safety, outdated

2:39:27city codes, code enforcement harassment,

2:39:29senior services, youth services, grocery

2:39:31store worker safety, police

2:39:32accountability, and justice for Albert

2:39:35Arzola. And in eight months, I have seen

2:39:37only one concern brought up at a city

2:39:39council added to your meeting agenda.

2:39:42Thank you, Councilwoman

2:39:44Norma Campos Curts, for agendaizing a

2:39:47bike lane in the Olive Street

2:39:49neighborhood. As for the rest of you, I

2:39:51have yet to see what you're doing for my

2:39:53neighbors. You're not even talking about

2:39:55them. You don't respond to us in these

2:39:57meetings because you're not allowed to,

2:39:59but you don't respond because you don't

2:40:01care to.

2:40:03>> It is time to vote. Sorry, your time is

2:40:05up.

2:40:05>> The sellouts,

2:40:09>> our next speaker

2:40:20Good evening. Good evening, Anaheim

2:40:22staff and residents. My name is Abe. I'm

2:40:24a member of CSO Orange County in the

2:40:26Police Accountability Committee. We're

2:40:27here tonight in solidarity with the

2:40:29family of Albert Arzola to demand

2:40:30justice for his life.

2:40:32>> Justice for Albert.

2:40:33>> That's right. All right, for all of you

2:40:34Anaheim residents who don't know Albert,

2:40:36he was a 19-year-old Anaheim resident

2:40:38who lived just minutes away from this

2:40:40chamber on Philadelphia Street. He

2:40:42worked at the Honda Center. He had a

2:40:44loving family and friends who had been

2:40:46to this council to this council chamber

2:40:47many many times to demand justice for

2:40:49his life and he wanted to explore a

2:40:51career in the culinary arts. He was a

2:40:53young cho living here in the city. On

2:40:55December 6th, 2025, Albert Arzola's life

2:40:58was taken by Anaheim PD officer Nathan

2:41:01Garcia. Security footage of the incident

2:41:03shows that Garcia jumped out of an

2:41:05unmarked vehicle and targeted Albert,

2:41:07chasing him to the front door of his

2:41:09home. Body camera footage then shows

2:41:11that Albert that um Nathan Garcia

2:41:14grabbed Albert by his hoodie, dragged

2:41:16Albert, and shot him in the back and

2:41:18neck on his front porch. You can see in

2:41:20body camera footage that Albert had his

2:41:21hands open, palms down, facing the

2:41:23ground many times, many different frames

2:41:25of both of his hands doing that. The

2:41:27full unedited body camera footage has

2:41:29not been released. But this incident,

2:41:31the police incident video

2:41:34shows that Albert never threatened the

2:41:36officers. He never posed any danger that

2:41:38would require lethal force. It's also

2:41:40important to note that in 2024, officer

2:41:42Nathan Garcia and his partner brutally

2:41:44assaulted a 14-year-old minor who had no

2:41:47prior arrests, leading to a lawsuit

2:41:49against this city and a settlement of

2:41:51order of almost a quarter million

2:41:52dollars paid by all of your residents,

2:41:54by all of the people in this chamber.

2:41:56Shame.

2:41:57>> Shame. So, here we are almost 10 months

2:42:00since Albert Arzolo was killed by an

2:42:01officer with a history of misconduct.

2:42:04The last thing we need about the last

2:42:05thing we heard about officer Garcia is

2:42:07that he was on paid leave shortly after

2:42:09the shooting, meaning that there is a

2:42:10killer cop still patrolling this these

2:42:13streets, still driving through your

2:42:14neighborhoods and looking for his next

2:42:16target. We demand that Anaheim release

2:42:18the full unedited body camera footage.

2:42:20We demand that Anaheim PD release the

2:42:22autopsy report to his family. And we

2:42:24demand that Nathan Garcia be fired from

2:42:26Anaheim PD. Justice for Albert Arzola.

2:42:33>> Our next speaker.

2:42:42>> My name is David Bolo and I'm a proud

2:42:44member of Freedom Road Socialist

2:42:46Organization. I [snorts] was not

2:42:48surprised by the allegations that

2:42:49Anaheim Mayor Ashley Akin called her

2:42:51chief of staff penas a dirty Mexican.

2:42:54For over nine months, we've joined the

2:42:56family of Albert Arzola and seen them

2:42:58demand justice for their loved one. He

2:43:00was a 19-year-old Chico. Mayor Aken and

2:43:03many here on the city council have been

2:43:04silent on the issue of this racist

2:43:06police killing or worse. They chose to

2:43:08celebrate the police in their slides

2:43:10presentations and as you all just

2:43:11witnessed, things like the stupid horse

2:43:12thing. Uh it's disgusting. And they've

2:43:15also used Chuco children, not much

2:43:17younger Albert as props in their shows.

2:43:19Shame. It's disgusting. Disgusting. This

2:43:22is an example of the racism built into

2:43:24our local government. The racist

2:43:26treatment of Chucos and majority Chico

2:43:28cities like Anaheim and Santa Ana is

2:43:30considered normal. Racist police

2:43:32killings are considered normal. That is

2:43:34why Anaheim PD blamed Albert for his

2:43:36death at the hands of killer cop Nathan

2:43:38Garcia just as it blamed Joey Aso in

2:43:402012 and Fermine Vincent Valenuela in

2:43:422016. And all of their killers like

2:43:45Kelly Phillips, like Wuin Jun and Daniel

2:43:48Wolf were all kept out of jail by the

2:43:50so-called justice system. And today, all

2:43:52of those officers are still on the

2:43:53force. Shame.

2:43:55>> Shame.

2:43:56>> The only justice that we have won is the

2:43:58result of consistent pressure from the

2:44:00people. The testimony of Albert's family

2:44:02forced a real concession from this city

2:44:04in March when it released the name of

2:44:06the officer who killed off uh Albert.

2:44:09Officer Nathan Garcia.

2:44:11>> Nathan.

2:44:11>> Fire Nathan Garcia.

2:44:13>> Fire. Like the other 22, at least 22

2:44:17other killer cops we identified on the

2:44:182026 police roster, Nathan Garcia is

2:44:21still on the force. So, we have work to

2:44:23do. But this concession is an example of

2:44:26why anything worth winning is something

2:44:27we have to fight for. And you're not

2:44:28going to give it to us out of the

2:44:30goodness of your hearts. You've been

2:44:31quiet on this issue. Shame.

2:44:34>> People like Ashley Aken and Manny Sid

2:44:36protect the interests of the ruling

2:44:38capitalist class. That's why in all of

2:44:41their speeches and if you look at their

2:44:42campaign financing, you know, they care

2:44:44about their donors, they care about

2:44:46property development and Disneyland and

2:44:48they don't really care about the lives

2:44:50of their residents, which is why when

2:44:51they're killed in mass and they're

2:44:52strateg they're targeted on on the basis

2:44:55of their race, they don't say anything.

2:44:57It's that, you know, it's it's a threat

2:44:59really to their their actual interest,

2:45:01their campaign interest. So, you know,

2:45:03they will come and go and yes, racists

2:45:05should be removed. But the racist system

2:45:07that made them isn't going anywhere and

2:45:09we can't vote it out of power. That is

2:45:11why that's right. The truth is you, you

2:45:14know, these problems preceded a lot of

2:45:15you, you know, and that's a problem and

2:45:18we have to solve that problem, but you

2:45:19are now also part of the problem. Um, we

2:45:22are building a political party of the

2:45:24working class and freedom road socialist

2:45:26organization. We're fighting alongside

2:45:27people like the family of Albert Arzola.

2:45:29We will continue to make these demands

2:45:31until they are met. Justice for Albert

2:45:33Arzola.

2:45:34>> Justice for Alberta.

2:45:36>> Jail killer cops.

2:45:39>> Nathan Garcia.

2:45:42>> Nathan Garcia.

2:45:45>> Nathan Garcia.

2:45:47>> Nathan Garcia.

2:45:50>> Okay, sir. Thank you very much. Our next

2:45:52speaker.

2:45:53>> Up. Can we call the next speaker?

2:45:55>> Deborah Luhan.

2:46:05Good evening, uh, mayor and Anaheim City

2:46:09count or city board, sorry. Um, my name

2:46:12is Deborah Luhan and I'm a retired

2:46:13teacher from AUHSD. I'm here tonight to

2:46:16talk about the council providing more

2:46:19support for affordable housing, rent

2:46:21control, and renters rights for the

2:46:23family of Anaheim. This is an issue that

2:46:26affects us all. Parents, teachers, city

2:46:30members, local employees, city

2:46:33employees, and schools. I am a teacher.

2:46:36I was a teacher at Catella High School

2:46:38for 19 years. In 2004, I was surplus to

2:46:41Savannah High School due to declining

2:46:44enrollment. Catella went from enrollment

2:46:47of 2600 students in 2017 to 2,000

2:46:52students in 2026.

2:46:54Savannah is currently under 1,500

2:46:57students and um down from 2100 students

2:47:01during uh before COVID. This not only

2:47:04affects the Anaheim Union schools, but

2:47:06all of the elementary schools in this

2:47:08area, too. All declining enrollment.

2:47:12Families are leaving because they cannot

2:47:14afford to live in Anaheim. I see

2:47:16construction of many new homes in the

2:47:18area, but even with my salary as an

2:47:20Anaheim teacher, I don't think I could

2:47:22afford to buy one. So, how could you

2:47:25expect um other people to as well? And I

2:47:28actually make a decent salary. Um

2:47:32the decline in enrollment of course is

2:47:34causing families to leave this

2:47:36community. Teachers are losing their

2:47:38jobs. State funding is decreasing in

2:47:41schools. Local businesses are losing

2:47:44revenue.

2:47:45The people who are employed at the

2:47:48Disneyland Resort, which is Anaheim's

2:47:50largest employer, cannot afford to live

2:47:53in this area. There are some that

2:47:56actually I've known met a few people who

2:47:58actually commute from San Bernardino to

2:48:00work in Anaheim.

2:48:03this board. If this board and the

2:48:05residents of Anaheim would like this

2:48:07city to continue to flourish and grow,

2:48:10then you must provide affordable

2:48:13housing, rent control, and renters

2:48:16rights for its people to live here.

2:48:19Thank you.

2:48:26>> Our next speaker

2:48:35I will speak on item 14. Good evening

2:48:38everyone. My name is Lup Zamaron and I'm

2:48:41a field organizing officer for District

2:48:435 with Tenants United Anaheim. I am also

2:48:47a resident and attendant. So, this

2:48:49community is very important and personal

2:48:51to me.

2:48:52Tenants United Anaheim is here to listen

2:48:55and support our residents and make sure

2:48:57their voices are heard on issues

2:48:59affecting their homes, families, and

2:49:01neighborhoods.

2:49:03Mayor and council members, I am speaking

2:49:06to you today as someone who cares deeply

2:49:09about the community we all serve. There

2:49:12is one thing many of us have in common.

2:49:15Regardless of our circumstances, we are

2:49:18struggling financially. Our residents

2:49:20are facing rising housing cost,

2:49:22increasing rents, and difficult reality

2:49:25of trying to make ends meet. Does this

2:49:28not worry you? I cannot imagine

2:49:31continuing to watch families and working

2:49:33people in Anaheim struggle just to

2:49:35remain in the communities they call

2:49:38home. We also have to think about future

2:49:41generations. What kind of Anaheim are we

2:49:43leaving behind if ordinary people can no

2:49:46longer afford to live here? That is why

2:49:49I am res respectfully requesting that

2:49:52the city of Anaheim seriously consider a

2:49:54freeze or rent increases

2:49:58to freeze

2:50:00or ordinance providing a stronger

2:50:02protection for renters within the

2:50:05authority available to the city. I

2:50:07understand there are legal, economic and

2:50:10practical considerations involved. But

2:50:12doing nothing also has consequences for

2:50:15families, seniors, workers, and future

2:50:18gener generations. Housing is not just a

2:50:21number or on a lease. It is a home. It

2:50:24is where our children grow up, where

2:50:26families build their lives, and where

2:50:27communities come together. I am asking

2:50:31you to listen to residents who are

2:50:33struggling and explore every lawful

2:50:35option available to protect housing

2:50:37stability in Anaheim. We deserve Anaheim

2:50:41where people who work here have an

2:50:42opportunity to afford to live here,

2:50:45where families are not constantly

2:50:47worried about losing their homes, and

2:50:48where future generations have a chance

2:50:50to build a life in this community.

2:50:53Please take action to protect Anaheim

2:50:55renters. Thank you for your time and

2:50:57listening to our community.

2:51:04Mayor and city council, that concludes

2:51:05speakers on agenda items. Noting for the

2:51:07record, we didn't receive any remote

2:51:08speakers on agenda items. We will now go

2:51:11to our general comments. And in person,

2:51:13we have 32 speakers. The first speaker,

2:51:16Paul Hayek and Mr. Paul Hayek has step

2:51:19forward.

2:51:23>> Paul Hayek.

2:51:28We'll go to our next speaker, mayor and

2:51:30city council, Mark Richard Daniels.

2:51:32>> I am. Thank you for that kind

2:51:35introduction, Miss Bass. Um, first of

2:51:40all, I think uh we're at a point where

2:51:44we need an investigation as has been

2:51:47suggested,

2:51:48which is good, but we don't know what

2:51:52was said.

2:51:53issue or personal account.

2:51:56>> We don't know what was said. We have to

2:51:59wait till there's an investigation.

2:52:01First of all, uh none of you know what

2:52:05was said. None of you were there.

2:52:09>> That's right. You were exactly right.

2:52:12And uh so therefore, you're ask I'm

2:52:15talking here. I'm talking here.

2:52:19So, uh, at the same time, we wait till

2:52:23the investigation is done.

2:52:26>> Then we pass. Uh,

2:52:30>> no, I'm not.

2:52:33>> Yeah. Yeah. It's all right. I don't need

2:52:35that much time like you guys do. So, at

2:52:38the same time, if we find out that the

2:52:41mayor said something

2:52:44and uh well,

2:52:47we know that that's not a good thing,

2:52:49but it is not a crime. It's not

2:52:51technically a crime.

2:52:54>> Uh and I'm sure a lot of people have

2:52:56said worse that pe Yeah. So, uh we have

2:53:01to wait till the investigation is done.

2:53:04>> And in the meantime,

2:53:07This mayor is a former federal

2:53:10prosecutor. This mayor is a officer of

2:53:14the court. So this therefore there would

2:53:18be uh a lot to answer to in her own

2:53:22private life in her own uh

2:53:26um occupation of choosing. So, we have

2:53:31to wait and I'm going to stand with the

2:53:34mayor until the investigation is

2:53:36complete.

2:53:39>> Our next speaker, Paul Hayek.

2:53:45>> All right.

2:53:48>> It's disaster preparedness month. How

2:53:52many on the pulpit and how many in this

2:53:55chamber are s certified

2:53:59simple home remedies? Even our bus

2:54:03drivers aren't trained and some of the

2:54:05staff at OCTA aren't trained and they

2:54:09did the they did the the um

2:54:14Garden Grove uh evacuation.

2:54:18How many want to learn C and become S

2:54:22members? Even at Digilan, they have C

2:54:25and S members

2:54:28and some outfits aren't even being

2:54:29trained, right? The guy that ran Garden

2:54:32Grove, he was he wasn't even search and

2:54:37he lived in Long Beach. How many are

2:54:39going to go out and get search

2:54:41certified?

2:54:44How many are search certified in this

2:54:46crowd?

2:54:49search certified people. How many?

2:54:53>> You can always use it no matter where

2:54:55you work or where you live in Anaheim or

2:54:58Orange County. The other thing is on

2:55:00housing, I happen to be in one of those

2:55:03that's got a bug infestation and it's in

2:55:06the walls and I passed their inspection,

2:55:10but my HUD I did not and it's in the

2:55:14walls. Our

2:55:18next speaker, Art Castillo.

2:55:28>> Before I say anything, I wanted to talk

2:55:30about Joshua Collins's idea. I think

2:55:33that should be number one, taking these

2:55:36homeless and make it safer and safer for

2:55:38them, plus hygiene, everything. give

2:55:41them coffee, have somebody there and try

2:55:43to use that as an idea to find a parking

2:55:46lot. Uh on the other hand too, um I've

2:55:50been always going to the school board

2:55:52and there's been problems because

2:55:54there's been some uh assaults,

2:55:58a death of a suicide. Um, which really

2:56:02gets me to understand that uh some of

2:56:06people say again even with the Arzola

2:56:07family uh procedures going by the role

2:56:11by the rules but yet having some comfort

2:56:13of some information from you guys to you

2:56:17know keep it saying that it's going to

2:56:18happen you know so we this is something

2:56:21that back in 1977

2:56:23I had to see this and it's still

2:56:25repeating and uh I just really feel bad

2:56:28and uh you know But I want to thank

2:56:31those officers that did stop hitting the

2:56:33kids when I talked to them. I was like

2:56:36from here to you and they're beating

2:56:37them up in the streets. I have the

2:56:39negative side, but they knew and they've

2:56:41re apologized. People from the city who

2:56:44came and apologized, you know, for what

2:56:47had been the way it was treated. So, I'm

2:56:49going to let you guys know that. I don't

2:56:50know if you see videos or anything of

2:56:52our city doing something to somebody and

2:56:55it's videotaped and you see it with your

2:56:57own eyes, black and white and you know

2:57:01we do have the good stuff and we we also

2:57:03have to weigh it equally to each other.

2:57:05I just wanted to give the you guys an

2:57:08opportunity to take a look into these

2:57:11things. You could research them. They're

2:57:12in there and then make your decision.

2:57:15But I'm noticing that I used to be able

2:57:18to go somewhere like the city or the

2:57:20school board and get some answers. But

2:57:23today there's nothing. There's that's

2:57:25not in our jurisdiction. And so now what

2:57:28do we do with our kids? I don't care

2:57:30about the mothers and the family

2:57:31members. I think about the child, young

2:57:33kid who had a an incident that was uh

2:57:38very devastated to them. They're out

2:57:40they're out there and they're uh

2:57:42depressed and they don't know what to do

2:57:44because they're saying that nobody

2:57:46believes in them. So when I used to take

2:57:48kids to the to their schools to the

2:57:51principal and I would say spirit of the

2:57:52law can you look at this young man

2:57:54trying to explain to you you know what

2:57:56the principles all said most of 99% said

2:57:59we'll let them we'll let them stay and

2:58:01they graduated and the expulsions were

2:58:05done a lot in the school time back in in

2:58:08the 81 and 80 82 area. I was very

2:58:12appalled by there were just numbers and

2:58:14they were going like crazy but I was

2:58:16saving dozens of them. So that means

2:58:18what I'm going to ask is we need to have

2:58:20better um what I want to call it

2:58:22investigation time to to look into the

2:58:25matters if you can and before you make a

2:58:28decision because if they're making

2:58:30decisions to expel kids that actually

2:58:32are victims.

2:58:32>> Mr. Castillo I'm sorry your time is up.

2:58:35>> Just wanted to give you that

2:58:36information. Thank you. Our [applause]

2:58:38next speaker, Cecil Jordan Corkin.

2:58:47>> Trick or treat.

2:58:49[laughter]

2:58:52I would love to go to Disney and see

2:58:54what it's like on Halloween,

2:58:58but I'm more concerned what the Lord has

2:59:00to say.

2:59:03But who so shall offend one of these

2:59:06little ones?

2:59:08That's what we're concerned about. We

2:59:10want us to be safe at Disneyland

2:59:16on the uh the tourist as well as the uh

2:59:22public that goes down to Disney. I've

2:59:26seen them unload one time. We were

2:59:29sitting there with my mother in a car

2:59:32and they were just been going for about

2:59:3430 40 minutes unloading

2:59:38like a ball game. And I thought that was

2:59:41very interesting. She said, "Let us just

2:59:43turn around and just go the other

2:59:45direction." She did. She turned around

2:59:48in that street and went back to my

2:59:52apartment where I live now. But what

2:59:55we're after this understanding

2:59:59is where Dizzy's coming from. We've got

3:00:02to realize the truth on it. I found some

3:00:06backmassing on some films on audio of

3:00:11satanic.

3:00:13It takes some special equipment to

3:00:15backmass it.

3:00:18Back in the day, Aussie had an album and

3:00:21you spin it backwards and it says smoke

3:00:23marijuana. smoke marijuana. That's back

3:00:26in the day when rock and roll was like

3:00:29that.

3:00:31And uh

3:00:34what we need to do now is do a program

3:00:38where we can uh protect the children

3:00:42from the evils of of Disney or what it's

3:00:47all about. That's what I said last time

3:00:50I was here. and I'm waiting to see

3:00:53what's gonna happen next.

3:00:56And uh the album, the program was called

3:01:00Hail's Bells. It was telling the truth

3:01:03about rock and roll, how satanic it was.

3:01:07And uh I listened to it. I had a videape

3:01:12of it, VHS.

3:01:15What I'm after now is to see what

3:01:18happens as I save that 200 at least each

3:01:23month from my direct deposit.

3:01:27I can manage to do that. I wanted to go

3:01:30to Disney. I would love to see what it

3:01:33be like to go to the Halloween on

3:01:35Disney. That's what I was looking at

3:01:39because they're talking about it on

3:01:40channel one.

3:01:42the the introduction of Halloween of

3:01:46Disney and I thought that was very

3:01:49interesting.

3:01:51I would love to have a ticket but it's

3:01:54>> see I'm sorry your time is up

3:01:56>> day ticket or you can get a two-day pass

3:02:00for $335.

3:02:04Father, Son, Holy Spirit. I try my best.

3:02:08Trick or treat.

3:02:12Thank you, Cecil. Our next speaker, G

3:02:15Price.

3:02:17>> I spent a lot of time this month putting

3:02:20this together

3:02:23from Fantasia.

3:02:25>> Have our next speaker, please.

3:02:26>> Thank you, mayor. You didn't have no

3:02:29candy. I said trickor treat [laughter]

3:02:34and I brought my bucket.

3:02:38A bus driver says, "I don't have no no

3:02:41candy. Will you give me a discount on

3:02:43the bus pass?"

3:02:44>> Thank you, Cecil.

3:02:46>> Thank you very much,

3:02:49>> Jimmy the Cricket,

3:02:52Peter Pan,

3:02:54[clears throat]

3:02:55and Mickey.

3:02:57>> Thank you, Cecil. We're gonna let the

3:02:59next speaker go. Okay.

3:03:10I have struggled to process the

3:03:12allegations involving the mayor because

3:03:14quite frankly they hurt my heart. To

3:03:17think that a young Latino woman who was

3:03:19hired because of her experience,

3:03:22knowledge, and ability could have been

3:03:24made could have been made to feel less

3:03:26than because of her race. That is

3:03:29absolutely heartbreaking.

3:03:31Residents deserve the truth. I

3:03:33understand there are two sides to every

3:03:35story and I believe in a fair and

3:03:38independent investigation. I've heard

3:03:40people suggest this is a political hit

3:03:42because of the election, but that is

3:03:45something an investigation should

3:03:46consider, but the timing does not answer

3:03:49the allegations. The Los Angeles Times

3:03:52reported serious allegations of a

3:03:54pattern of discriminatory treatment

3:03:57harassment involving this the mayor's

3:04:00chief policy adviser. The mayor said she

3:04:03would cooperate with the with the city's

3:04:05investigation, so investigate it fairly,

3:04:09independently, and thoroughly. I cannot

3:04:12imagine going to work every day afraid

3:04:14to speak up because I needed my job. I

3:04:18can't imagine feeling that the very

3:04:20people who are supposed to protect

3:04:21employees are the very ones harming

3:04:24them. My heart hurts for everyone who

3:04:27has experienced harassment or

3:04:28discrimination.

3:04:30I'm angry that allegations this serious

3:04:33could involve the highest elected office

3:04:35in our city. If these allegations are

3:04:38substantiated, residents deserve to know

3:04:41who knew, who saw what was happening,

3:04:44who was told, and most importantly, who

3:04:47was supposed to protect this employee.

3:04:50Because that leads us to an even bigger

3:04:51question. How many other people working

3:04:54for the city of Anaheim are experiencing

3:04:57something similar and are afraid to come

3:04:59forward? Our elected leaders set the

3:05:02example for city employees, residents,

3:05:05and especially our children. We teach

3:05:08our children that our differences should

3:05:10be embraced, not mocked. That someone's

3:05:13race, religion, ethnicity, or sexual

3:05:16orientation should never determine their

3:05:19worth or how you treat them. [applause]

3:05:25These values should not disappear at the

3:05:28doors of city hall. I am not asking the

3:05:31council to prejudge anyone. I'm asking

3:05:34you to find the truth. And wherever the

3:05:37truth leads, please have the courage to

3:05:40confront it headon and publicly.

3:05:47>> Our next speaker, Mark Herbert.

3:05:51We missed you.

3:06:04>> Council me Oh, Mark Herbert, Anaheim

3:06:06Greece.com. Council member Meeks, last

3:06:08Tuesday, you were the only council

3:06:10member to publicly address the

3:06:11allegations against the mayor. You said,

3:06:14"We owe it to the community to take

3:06:16accusations like this seriously and

3:06:18address them." You called for an

3:06:20expedited investigation,

3:06:22but residents have heard the words

3:06:24investigation, review, audit, and staff

3:06:26reports before. Will this investigation

3:06:29be different and actually produce

3:06:30answers, or will residents eventually

3:06:33receive another carefully packaged city

3:06:35hall summary? in chronological order.

3:06:39Here is my top 10 of of failed Anaheim

3:06:42investigations and staff reports.

3:06:45>> In um number one, October 2017,

3:06:49following the wildfire in Anaheim Hills,

3:06:51residents were promised a fire

3:06:52evacuation plan. Nine years later, we're

3:06:56still waiting. December 20th, the city

3:06:58launched an investigation into racist

3:07:00comments made by Council Member Bradman.

3:07:04Six years later, we're still waiting.

3:07:07Number three, November 20, 2022, the

3:07:10council in a unanimous vote called for

3:07:12quote a full property condition

3:07:14assessment report on Angel Stadium. Four

3:07:17years later, we're still waiting.

3:07:22July 2023, the jail report on corruption

3:07:25was released. Three years later,

3:07:27residents are still waiting for a

3:07:28community meeting or workshop to discuss

3:07:30its findings. Five. April 2024, the

3:07:34council unanimously approved Disney

3:07:36Forward. The environmental issues raised

3:07:38in the 17,000page environmental impact

3:07:41report were overturned by a 30-page

3:07:44economic report funded by Disney based

3:07:46on confidential attendance numbers

3:07:48provided by Disney. The council and

3:07:51staff abided by Disney's request to

3:07:53settle for a four-page summary. The c

3:07:56the council chose not to read the

3:07:5730-page document that to that contained

3:08:00the overriding considerations.

3:08:03Six November 2025. I filed six Brown Act

3:08:07violations in public comments and sent

3:08:09written copies to the mayor, council,

3:08:11and city attorney. 10 months later,

3:08:13we're still waiting. A council member in

3:08:15June told me to quote, "Keep waiting. I

3:08:19am

3:08:21>> number uh number seven. December 2025,

3:08:24the public learned about the illegal 35

3:08:26room addition at the Windham Hotel. It

3:08:29wasn't discovered by the city for 27

3:08:32years. 9 months later, after requesting

3:08:34an investigation, we're still waiting.

3:08:37Number nine, April 2026,

3:08:41I'm sorry, December 2025, Albert Arzola

3:08:44was killed by Anaheim police. Nine

3:08:46months later, the Arzola family is still

3:08:48waiting for the results of the police

3:08:50investigation.

3:08:52I have two more but only 12 seconds

3:08:54left. I'll trust that maybe these eight

3:08:56will keep you occupied and I support the

3:08:59Arzas.

3:09:04>> Our next speaker, Mike Robbins.

3:09:16Of

3:09:20[snorts]

3:09:22course.

3:09:23Of course. There's a sign.

3:09:31Mayor Ashley, you had plenty plenty to

3:09:34say about the residents who speak at the

3:09:35council. You told us we were the

3:09:38disinformation brigade. You interrupted

3:09:40us repeatedly when we brought our

3:09:42concerns to the podium. even told my

3:09:44wife she should be embarrassed.

3:09:46Embarrassed about what exactly? For

3:09:48showing up? For telling you how to do

3:09:50your job? For pointing out governance

3:09:52failures? For giving you pertinent

3:09:54information? Maybe instead of attacking

3:09:57the residents, you should investigate

3:09:59the city failures. Anaheim seems to

3:10:02operate in a constant state of chaos.

3:10:05Enough. Do the work you were elected to

3:10:07do. Uh beyond, you know, just being paid

3:10:10to work for Disney. uh deal with the

3:10:12city's problems, demand answers, hold

3:10:15people accountable. But how can you

3:10:17possibly do that when the highest

3:10:19elected official in this city is facing

3:10:21allegations of racist and homophobic

3:10:24remarks? These aren't insignificant

3:10:26allegations. They strike directly at the

3:10:29majority Latino and LGBTQ communities

3:10:33you are elected to represent.

3:10:35The mayor didn't immediately deny the

3:10:37deny the racial slur or homophobic

3:10:39comments they were thrown out of the 33

3:10:42club crime for God's sake. She changed

3:10:45she changed her tune a few days. That's

3:10:47not suspicious at all. The tone

3:10:49established at the top of an

3:10:51organization travels downward.

3:10:56When the city's highest elected official

3:10:59is facing allegations is serious.

3:11:01residents have a right to ask what kind

3:11:03of culture exists underneath her.

3:11:07Meanwhile, residents are watching

3:11:09scandal after scandal consume city hall,

3:11:12why the actual business of Anaheim, you

3:11:14know, half billion dollars in debt and

3:11:17uh and all the other things that are

3:11:19going we can't drink the water, can't uh

3:11:22stop attacking the residents

3:11:24that point out the problems and show you

3:11:26pictures. Even the residents aren't

3:11:28creating the chaos by talking about it.

3:11:31Our job is to hold you accountable. Your

3:11:33job is to govern. So enough enough with

3:11:36council communications and showing

3:11:38something important up here. Enough with

3:11:41the excuses. Do the work. And Ashley,

3:11:45um, if the ash if the allegations are

3:11:48true, I assure you we will all be

3:11:51embarrassed that you used to be our

3:11:55mayor.

3:11:59release

3:12:01the letter

3:12:03>> and and resign.

3:12:05>> Yes.

3:12:06>> Don't drag your name through the mud.

3:12:10Just um move on to uh you know, you've

3:12:13you've got a beautiful house and family

3:12:16and and why why spoil that? Just uh I

3:12:20mean, I can't believe the things you've

3:12:21you've said or done and uh I'm I'm

3:12:24embarrassed.

3:12:24>> Mr. Robins, your time is up.

3:12:26>> I'm embarrassed for you. Really? And uh

3:12:30resign now, please.

3:12:32>> Our next speaker,

3:12:34>> Janine Robbins.

3:12:46Ashley Aken, in January when Jim

3:12:48Vanderpool was under scrutiny for an

3:12:50undisclosed trip to Lake Havsu, you

3:12:53demanded accountability. You said, and I

3:12:56quote, "We need to hold ourselves to a

3:12:58higher standard and not just follow the

3:13:00letter of the law, but follow the spirit

3:13:02of the law. You even wanted the ethics

3:13:04officer involved. You said he is their

3:13:07ethics officer as much as he is ours."

3:13:10Those are powerful words. So, mayor, do

3:13:12those standards also apply to you?

3:13:15Because I filed a public record request

3:13:17on all documents pertaining to your all

3:13:20expense paid trip to Qatar. Let me

3:13:22summarize those records for everyone.

3:13:25The Qatar embassy invited the mayor and

3:13:27a guest to a special mayoral delegation

3:13:30in Doha, Qatar. In May of 2025,

3:13:34the mayor accepted and informed Qatar

3:13:36that she would bring her husband,

3:13:38Michael Penn, as her guest. In fact, on

3:13:41April 2nd, the mayor emailed Qatar and

3:13:44said, "I will need to purchase Michael's

3:13:46plane ticket given the California rules

3:13:48on gifts." So, apparently, everyone

3:13:51understood the gift ban law. Family and

3:13:54spouses cannot accept gifts on behalf of

3:13:58elected officials.

3:14:00The mayor and her husband then went to

3:14:02the mayoral delegation in Qar from May

3:14:0517th to May 22nd.

3:14:07After the mayor and her husband returned

3:14:09from Qatar, the mayor's staff contacted

3:14:12the Qatar embassy to obtain an itemized

3:14:15breakdown of the expenses of the trip

3:14:17for reimbursement.

3:14:19And the embassy responded with that

3:14:21information on May 28th.

3:14:23The mayor's staff then specifically

3:14:25asked the embassy to confirm whether

3:14:27those expenses had been paid by the

3:14:29embassy. And the embassy responded,

3:14:31"Yes, all of these were paid by the

3:14:33embassy." The total cost of the trip was

3:14:36almost $34,000

3:14:38and the mayor was expected to reimburse

3:14:40almost 17,000 back to Qar for her

3:14:42husband.

3:14:44>> But there was no proof of reimbursement

3:14:47in any of the records that I received.

3:14:50So what story, Ashley, are you going to

3:14:52make up this time? If you never

3:14:54reimburse the 17,000, are you going to

3:14:57concoct some reason as to how you got

3:14:59out of paying for your husband's free

3:15:01trip? And what does the Anaheim ethics

3:15:03officer say about all this? Used to work

3:15:05for the FPPC and reports to attorney Rob

3:15:08Fabella. Fabella and Greg Garcia should

3:15:11certainly understand the gift ban law

3:15:13because they both have law degrees. So

3:15:15why haven't either of them investigated

3:15:17this issue on their own?

3:15:20My guess because they too lack ethics.

3:15:24I am absolutely positive. I've known you

3:15:26for a long time as you pointed out that

3:15:29you are going to try and spin this. We

3:15:32know that you think you're exempt from

3:15:33the law. We know your father's

3:15:36connections. We know you will try and

3:15:37squirm your way out. But the truth will

3:15:40come out and the truth doesn't care who

3:15:42your dad is.

3:15:44I will be providing additional evidence

3:15:46to reopen the investigation with the

3:15:48FPPC into this um issue.

3:15:50>> Miss Robbins, I'm sorry your time is up.

3:15:53>> You should be embarrassed, Ashley.

3:16:05Anaheim has a long history of trying to

3:16:07contain scandals before they further

3:16:09damage the city's reputation. But that

3:16:12ship has sailed. Today, Mayor Akin faces

3:16:15serious questions involving ethics,

3:16:18transparency, foreign sponsored travel,

3:16:20gift compliance, discrimination,

3:16:22harassment, retaliation, accountability,

3:16:25and public trust. At this point, it's

3:16:27difficult for residents to keep track of

3:16:29all the scandals unfolding in Anaheim.

3:16:32We appreciate that Council Member Meeks

3:16:34called for an investigation into

3:16:36allegations against Mayor Aken, but it

3:16:39did not go unnoticed that every other

3:16:41member of this council remained silent

3:16:44last week. That silence was deeply

3:16:46concerning.

3:16:48And while we agree that an urgent

3:16:50investigation is warranted, we must ask,

3:16:53where was this urgency when residents

3:16:56came to you about our drinking water?

3:16:59Since March, residents and

3:17:01whistleblowers have raised serious

3:17:03concerns about Anaheim's water

3:17:05operations. Did this council demand an

3:17:08immediate independent investigation? No.

3:17:11Instead, you requested a presentation,

3:17:14one that failed to answer the

3:17:15fundamental questions we have been

3:17:17asking for months. Craig Parker told the

3:17:21public utilities board that the state

3:17:23had investigated these allegations and

3:17:25found nothing. But how can the city call

3:17:28that a complete investigation when the

3:17:30whistleblowers who raised the concerns

3:17:32were never interviewed? And where are

3:17:35the results of this alleged

3:17:37investigation?

3:17:39Which brings us to today. How can we how

3:17:42can the public trust this city's

3:17:44investigative process when some

3:17:46allegations trigger immediate demands

3:17:48for an independent investigation while

3:17:51others are minimized, handled

3:17:53internally, or declared resolved before

3:17:55the people who raise the concerns are

3:17:57even interviewed. This leaves residents

3:18:00with the troubling impression that

3:18:02politics determine what gets

3:18:04investigated while ethics takes a back

3:18:07seat. Transparency isn't selective.

3:18:10Truth isn't selective. And frankly, if

3:18:14this city did its job properly in the

3:18:16first place, taxpayers wouldn't have to

3:18:19keep paying for costly investigations

3:18:21just to figure out how city hall failed.

3:18:24Yet again,

3:18:28>> our next speaker,

3:18:34[clears throat]

3:18:37>> mayor and council members, I have a

3:18:39little parody song for you uh with

3:18:42apologies to George Harrison.

3:18:45One, two, three. I look at you all, see

3:18:52what Disney has purchased.

3:18:56While my guitar gently weeps,

3:19:02I look at this budget and what Anna

3:19:08lost.

3:19:10Still my guitar gently weeps.

3:19:15I don't know why [screaming]

3:19:18nobody told you not to be abject tools.

3:19:26We all know how

3:19:29Disney controlled you.

3:19:32They bought and sold

3:19:35you.

3:19:37I look at you texting,

3:19:41ignoring

3:19:43the speakers,

3:19:45while my guitar gently weeps

3:19:51with every mistake one would think we'd

3:19:56be learning.

3:19:58Still, my guitar gently weeps.

3:20:03It's plain to see how [screaming]

3:20:07you were elected.

3:20:09You were perverted

3:20:12too.

3:20:14I don't know why

3:20:17our city deserves this. Run like an

3:20:22oligarchy.

3:20:26I look out at them. See the voters

3:20:32disgusted

3:20:34while my guitar gently weeps.

3:20:40Seduce is gone but nothing has changed.

3:20:47Still my guitar gently weeps.

3:20:55Our

3:20:58next speaker, Dave Duran.

3:21:04>> We'll go to our next speaker. I believe

3:21:05Dave Duran is a remote speaker, so we'll

3:21:07go to Tracy Theodore.

3:21:12Tracy Theodore.

3:21:16We'll go to our next speaker, Grace

3:21:18Arzola.

3:21:27It's hard to follow that serenata as us

3:21:30Mexicans would say. Um, good afternoon.

3:21:32My name is Grace Arzola. I'm here to

3:21:34demand justice for my nephew Albert

3:21:37Arzola.

3:21:38It's been

3:21:4110 months since he was sensibly killed

3:21:43and shot in the back by the Anaheim

3:21:45Police Department. We ask for justice

3:21:47and sit in and you guys sit in the

3:21:49position of power and denounce the

3:21:51unchecked excessive force used by eyes

3:21:53in the community, but do nothing to

3:21:55check the Anaheim Police Department

3:21:56excessive force. Ashley, I want you to

3:21:58know that I love my nephew almost as

3:22:00much as you love wine.

3:22:03Um,

3:22:06you need to do what's right. If you said

3:22:08it, resign. Please don't drag yourself

3:22:10through it. Don't drag the city. You

3:22:12deserve better and so does the city. If

3:22:15you did it, own up to it. And there's

3:22:17some dignity in knowing our own

3:22:20mistakes. And you know what? I've been

3:22:22drunk before and I've said stupid

3:22:24too.

3:22:26>> So, I would respect more you coming and

3:22:28saying, "I was under the influence. I

3:22:29made a bad comment." But also in the

3:22:32Mexican culture, we say that the drunks

3:22:34and the kids don't lie.

3:22:37la verd um my mom did want me [snorts]

3:22:41to tell you that every time you eat a

3:22:43vegetable or you eat a fruit that you

3:22:46remember that those vegetables and fruit

3:22:48pass through the dirty hands of a

3:22:49Mexican worker in the field

3:22:54who takes the responsibility of feeding

3:22:57America even when they're not treated as

3:22:59a quarter resident not given legal

3:23:02status in this country

3:23:04>> Mexicans take the work that Americans

3:23:07don't want to do. And I want to remind

3:23:10everyone, we dirty Mexicans did not

3:23:13cross the border. The border crossed us.

3:23:19>> And shame on all the Hispanics sitting

3:23:21in this council that did not denounce

3:23:25Ashley's or called for an investigation.

3:23:27And although there are allegations, you

3:23:29guys should had called for transparency,

3:23:30but you guys were on self preservation

3:23:33and put your political ambitions above

3:23:35that. And it had to be the white girl

3:23:37calling her out.

3:23:39>> Shame on you guys.

3:23:44>> Natalie, you sit there and you say you

3:23:45represent district three, that's

3:23:47majority Mexicans, but you said nothing

3:23:49about the mayor's allegation. You stayed

3:23:51quiet. Why? because you want to preserve

3:23:53your connection that she has with the

3:23:55dem with the Democratic party.

3:23:57>> Yeah.

3:23:58>> And Norma, I was so sad to see the

3:24:00videos of them towing cars today in your

3:24:02district. That was sad. These people

3:24:05have financial hardship. You know that

3:24:07$500, $600 is going to set them back a

3:24:09lot. And there's a lot of cars because

3:24:11there's multiple families living there

3:24:13because it's unaffordable to live in the

3:24:16city of Anaheim. Come on, do something

3:24:18for your district. You cannot be okay

3:24:20with the Anaheim police towing them.

3:24:22These people are scared of ice and now

3:24:25they're scared to get their to cars

3:24:27towed. And how many houses are they

3:24:28going to have to clean?

3:24:29>> Ma'am, I'm so sorry. Your time is up.

3:24:33>> And I want to say if you're a dirty

3:24:34Mexican, ring your cowbell.

3:24:38>> Our next speaker.

3:24:48Um,

3:24:50you know, actually, honestly, since I've

3:24:52heard the news, I've been celebrating

3:24:54cuz I knew you guys didn't take Albert's

3:24:56dad serious. If you guys actually took

3:24:58Albert's dad serious, you guys wouldn't

3:25:00have allowed Manny Sid to call him the

3:25:01lookout. That's such a disgusting

3:25:04comment that I thought you would correct

3:25:05it. It's not fair. Why are we

3:25:09villainizing the victim? Like, what

3:25:11sense does that make? Albert was the one

3:25:12murdered. Nathan Garcia is still alive

3:25:14and breathing. He's going to live a full

3:25:15life and be just fine. Rosy's never

3:25:18going to be fine. My uncle Albert would

3:25:19never be fine. Why does Anaheim

3:25:22villainize Albert? Basically, they

3:25:25haven't told us any information about

3:25:27the investigation, but if I had to

3:25:28believe Anaheim PD's investigation, it

3:25:30was just pure crap. And they villainized

3:25:32Albert, called him a dirty Mexican.

3:25:34Maybe um they won't I want to know how

3:25:39many days Nathan Garcia spent by Rosy's

3:25:42house, by Albert's house. That's the

3:25:44simple thing. If a killer spends

3:25:45multiple time multiple days at the

3:25:47house, wouldn't you want to know? Like

3:25:50that's that's transparency. You can't

3:25:52just wrap it up and say that he was the

3:25:54lookout. That that tells me you guys

3:25:56didn't take this killing serious. That's

3:25:59despicable. And I wondered why actually

3:26:02you wouldn't help a Groovy family. Rosie

3:26:04has been coming up here every single

3:26:05week demanding justice and you allowed

3:26:08Nathan Garcia to stay on the force. And

3:26:10if you guys want to say maybe, you know,

3:26:12you guys want to say Albert deserved to

3:26:14die, that's fine. But what about the

3:26:1514-year-old child Nathan Garcia beat up

3:26:17before getting to even Albert? Where's

3:26:19the transparency in that? Manny Sid

3:26:21doesn't want to fire him over killing

3:26:23Albert. Okay, but what about the

3:26:2514-year-old he allowed Kyle Smith and

3:26:28him to allegedly not beat up, right? Cuz

3:26:29he didn't beat him up to the Anaheim

3:26:31spokesperson. He said that he just

3:26:33watched. Like that's even better. Here,

3:26:35you used to be a federal prosecutor. Who

3:26:37gets charged if one guy beats up another

3:26:40one and the other guy's just watching

3:26:41and making sure they get charged as a

3:26:43group, right?

3:26:45>> Yes, they get charged as a group. You

3:26:47guys told the family to trust the Orange

3:26:48County DA. Why do I look up on the

3:26:51internet and I see no charges were ever

3:26:52filed against Kyle Smith or Nathan

3:26:54Garcia for the assault on a 14-year-old

3:26:56child? Why? There was proof. He went to

3:26:58the hospital right after those cops

3:27:00can't get out of it. You guys signed the

3:27:02settlement already. Where where's the

3:27:04charges? There's none. Because why? Cuz

3:27:07Anaheim PD and the Orange County DA,

3:27:09they work together. That's a Bonnie and

3:27:12Clyde. That's Peanut Butter and Jelly.

3:27:14Exactly why you guys won't give us

3:27:16Albert's autopsy. When you look at the

3:27:18facts, he was killed. He was shot in the

3:27:20back. And you guys are waiting 9 months

3:27:22to release that. It's just disgraceful.

3:27:25>> Ma, you were elected over Anaheim Union.

3:27:28Uh they wanted somebody else, right? You

3:27:31are supposed to be the voice of reason.

3:27:33It's It's unfair. People voted you over

3:27:36a Disney employee and Anaheim police

3:27:38endorsement. If it was up to Anaheim PD

3:27:40M, you wouldn't be here today. There

3:27:42should be a voice of reason. If

3:27:44everybody else is going to be quiet,

3:27:46who's going to stand up? Nobody wanted

3:27:48the Anaheim PD endorsement. They didn't

3:27:49pick him for a reason. And Ashley, you

3:27:51stuck up for Anaheim PD and they took

3:27:53away that endorsement today.

3:27:55>> Our next speaker,

3:27:57>> Rosie Kamacho.

3:28:09December 6, 2025 will never be the same.

3:28:13Shame on you, Ashley, for having other

3:28:16people speak for you. You should have

3:28:18spoke for yourself. Under that skin,

3:28:21you're still racist. Just because you

3:28:23speak Spanish, that don't mean anything.

3:28:25We all know. And I am that dirty

3:28:28Mexican. Shame on you. Shame

3:28:30[clears throat] on you for having Nathan

3:28:32Garcia still as a a killer cop, murder

3:28:37cop, and shame on

3:28:42all the rest of you guys. You guys are

3:28:45shameful to our district. You guys just

3:28:49want us out.

3:28:52And for you, Norma, to tow all them

3:28:54vehicles and not let people know what

3:28:57was going on, that's very shameful.

3:29:00These people woke up in the middle of

3:29:01the night with no vehicle. That's a like

3:29:05$500 ticket that they don't have.

3:29:08>> Shame on you. And if that happens to

3:29:11your district, Natalie, what are you

3:29:12going to do? Are you going to prevent it

3:29:14from happening since you went out there

3:29:16already and talked to everybody and that

3:29:18you voted stating that you're going to

3:29:22control their transparency on the

3:29:24tenants? All you want to know is what's

3:29:27going on with the tenants instead of

3:29:28helping them of their affordable

3:29:31housing. What's the housing for? Just

3:29:33for other people, but them. The rent is

3:29:36still be it's still going to be the

3:29:38same. It's still going to be every year

3:29:40$100. Not only that, shameful for you

3:29:45tying them that all they want to know is

3:29:49that they're going to be okay, but

3:29:51they're not going to be okay because

3:29:52they're still going to be paying $100 to

3:29:54$200 every year. And they change

3:29:58landlords every year. Have you told them

3:30:00that they change every year? They change

3:30:02landlords. They change names. They

3:30:04change addresses, but it's still the

3:30:06same landlord. Did you tell them that,

3:30:08Ashley? No, I bet you didn't. So, you

3:30:11need to keep on going over there and

3:30:14doing your work. And you talk about

3:30:15gangs. What do you talk about gangs for?

3:30:18Why don't you do something? Why don't

3:30:20you help them? Why don't you have your

3:30:22police officers instead of killing them

3:30:24and running them over? Talk to them.

3:30:27Give them advice. Instead of

3:30:29chasing them and killing them like my

3:30:32son, justice for my son, Alberto Arsola.

3:30:36And you think we're going to stop here?

3:30:38We're not. We're going. and we're going

3:30:40to keep on going. Just because you lay

3:30:43in that skin, you're just a cop killer

3:30:46yourself.

3:30:47>> That's all you are. Just like the mayor,

3:30:51the rest of you guys shameful for being

3:30:53Mexican and not even talk about your

3:30:55mayo, your mayor. She's racist. Why

3:30:59don't you say anything instead of having

3:31:01Natalie over here Meeks talk about her?

3:31:04Huh? We need to know about her calling

3:31:08us dirty Mexicans. What happened with

3:31:10that? Just because she's drunk doesn't

3:31:12give her the right.

3:31:14>> It doesn't give no one the right to

3:31:16disrespect our culture.

3:31:18>> Brown and proud.

3:31:21>> And justice for our Arzola.

3:31:24>> Our next

3:31:26>> justice and fire. Nathan Garcia. Our

3:31:29next speaker.

3:31:37>> Hello. [gasps] It's crazy that you and

3:31:40Norma are talk and all of you guys are

3:31:43talking about the rent stuff. When me

3:31:45and Vern have been out there canvasing

3:31:49all all summer and having people sign

3:31:53the petitions, we didn't get that much

3:31:56signatures, but we were fighting every

3:31:58single day for the rent. And you guys

3:32:01should be shameful because you guys all

3:32:04have the power right now. Who cares if

3:32:07you guys are under election right now?

3:32:09You guys today could help people with

3:32:11the rent, but you all choose not to. You

3:32:14guys don't want to help us with the

3:32:16rent. And honestly, what's so up,

3:32:20too, is that you guys could have told

3:32:22those people or gave them a ticket.

3:32:24Instead, you guys told their car in the

3:32:27middle of the night. How sneaky is

3:32:28Anaheim PD? When I was coming over here,

3:32:31the Anaheim cop that I was in front of

3:32:34the license plate or the license the

3:32:38number thing was 34 I think it was 3417

3:32:42or 3419.

3:32:44They were not even using their turning

3:32:46signals at all. They could have crashed

3:32:48somebody. They were not using their turn

3:32:50signals and they were swerving into

3:32:52other lanes to get cross. And you know

3:32:54what also they did? They turned on their

3:32:56light just so they could cross. And

3:32:59there's no emergency. A few lights down,

3:33:02they turned it off. Like, how shameful

3:33:04is that? If I would have done that, I

3:33:05would have got a five or $1,000 ticket

3:33:08and my car would have got repoed cuz you

3:33:10Anaheim PD loves to pull people over for

3:33:13doing stupid But yet, their cops

3:33:16are just reckless driving right there.

3:33:19So, honestly, you guys all should be

3:33:22ashamed of your guys'elves. And all of

3:33:25you guys are getting reelected. Natalie,

3:33:29you're getting out of here. Ashley,

3:33:32you're getting out of here, too. Carlos,

3:33:35I really was hoping somebody was in your

3:33:37district wanting to run cuz I would

3:33:39fully support them to get you out of

3:33:41here, too. Anyways, vote for Mayor

3:33:45Rodriguez and vote for Elia. I hope all

3:33:47you guys are out and I'm a proud dirty

3:33:50Mexican.

3:34:02Good evening, mayor, mayor prom and

3:34:04council members. My name is Ivon Pñena

3:34:06and I'm the executive director of Orange

3:34:08County communities organized for

3:34:09responsible development or accord

3:34:12organized alongside workingclass

3:34:14immigrant and Latino families in Anaheim

3:34:16for over 20 years. I am here tonight on

3:34:18behalf of our organization and the

3:34:20communities we work with because we are

3:34:22deeply disturbed by the allegations that

3:34:23come forward involving the mayor. I want

3:34:26to be very clear. Accord believes in

3:34:29accountability, transparency, and due

3:34:31process. That is why we are calling for

3:34:33a transparent, independent, and credible

3:34:35process that establishes the facts and

3:34:37gives our community answers. However,

3:34:39calling for an accountability at this

3:34:41moment does not mean abandoning due

3:34:43process. These are serious allegations

3:34:45and regardless of what the process

3:34:46ultimately finds, the reported rhetoric

3:34:49is deeply painful. It has caused harm

3:34:51and reopen wounds in a community that

3:34:53hears such rhetoric far too often. These

3:34:55allegations are especially painful in

3:34:57this moment when immigrant and Latino

3:35:00communities are already navigating an

3:35:01increasingly hostile climate marked by

3:35:04immigration enforcement, fear, and

3:35:06dehumanizing rhetoric. That is

3:35:08especially significant in Anaheim, where

3:35:09over 50% of residents are Latino, 53.2

3:35:13two to be exact. The families we

3:35:15organize alongside are carrying fear and

3:35:17uncertainty every single day. Immigrant

3:35:20families are being targeted, hunted, and

3:35:22ripped apart. Latino families are being

3:35:24attacked and dehumanized every single

3:35:26day. People are living in uncertainty,

3:35:29afraid for their families and their

3:35:30future. I think about our young people.

3:35:32I think about our families. I think

3:35:34about the young Latino kids growing up

3:35:36in Anaheim who are watching the adults

3:35:37in positions of power right now. What

3:35:40are we teaching them about what happens

3:35:41when allegations of racism are made out

3:35:43inside their own city hall? Do we

3:35:45confront it? Do we acknowledge the harm?

3:35:47Or do we stay silent and hope it goes

3:35:49away? That is why I have also been

3:35:51deeply disappointed by the silence from

3:35:52members of this council, particularly

3:35:54our Latino representatives. I'm not

3:35:57asking anyone to prejudge the outcome of

3:35:59investigation. I am asking you to

3:36:00acknowledge what your community is

3:36:02feeling. I am asking you to acknowledge

3:36:04that these allegations are serious. I'm

3:36:06asking you to acknowledge the harm of

3:36:07this rhetoric in our community and I am

3:36:09asking you to clearly say that racism

3:36:11and dehumanizing language have no place

3:36:13in Anaheim because your silence

3:36:16communicates something too. Our young

3:36:18people are watching you. Our families

3:36:20are watching you. Representation matters

3:36:23most in moments like this. And frankly,

3:36:25it is heartbreaking and deeply

3:36:26disappointing to see Anaheim once again

3:36:29dealing with questions about trust,

3:36:31accountability, and leadership at city

3:36:33hall. It is so disappointed that our

3:36:35city is once again riddled with scandal.

3:36:37City Hall has already been through years

3:36:39of scandal investigations and promises

3:36:41that things would be different. How do

3:36:43we go from calling ourselves a city of

3:36:45kindness to our city where a former

3:36:47mayor is serving time for corruption and

3:36:49the current mayor is facing deeply

3:36:51troubling allegations? Our community

3:36:53deserves better than to keep asking

3:36:54whether they can trust our city

3:36:56government. So on behalf of a court, we

3:36:58are calling for a transparent and

3:36:59credible process that allows the facts

3:37:01to come forward. We are calling on every

3:37:03member of this council to acknowledge

3:37:04the impact this is having on the

3:37:06community you were elected to represent

3:37:08and especially at a time when so many of

3:37:10our families are already your leadership

3:37:12matters. Your words matter and your

3:37:14silence sends a message too. Our

3:37:16community deserves better and we expect

3:37:17more from this city's leadership.

3:37:19>> Thank you.

3:37:21Our next speaker

3:37:35>> shame on you guys.

3:37:41>> Good evening, Mayor Atkins and members

3:37:45of the city council. My name is Miguel

3:37:47Hernandez. I am serve as the executive

3:37:49director of the Orange County

3:37:50Congregation Community Organization, a

3:37:52faith rooted organization that has

3:37:54worked alongside Anaheim families and

3:37:56institutions for decades. Our faith

3:37:58traditions teach us that every person

3:38:00possess sacred worth. They also call us

3:38:03to seek truth, practice justice, protect

3:38:06those who are vulnerable, and repair

3:38:08harm when it occurs.

3:38:11The specific allegations against Mayor

3:38:14Atkins are deeply troubling. They

3:38:16include the alleged use of anti-Mexican

3:38:18language towards her chief of staff uh

3:38:20Benise Bayenes and repeated unwelcome

3:38:24comments and questions about her

3:38:25perceived sexual orientation. Oko is not

3:38:29asking the council to determine the

3:38:31truth of these allegations tonight. May

3:38:33Mayor Atkins has the right to deny them

3:38:35and to receive a fair investigation.

3:38:38Miss Bayenas also has the right to be

3:38:41heard, to be treated with dignity, and

3:38:43to participate without being discredited

3:38:46or experiencing retaliation.

3:38:49Unconditional belonging does not mean

3:38:50unconditional approval.

3:38:53It does not mean avoiding conflict or

3:38:55accountability. It means that every

3:38:57person experience experiences

3:38:58recognition, voice, inclusion, safety,

3:39:01and agency even when difficult truths

3:39:04are being examined.

3:39:06Othering occurs when some someone's

3:39:08race, ethnicity, sexuality, health or

3:39:11position is used to diminish their

3:39:12humanity or power. It it also occurs

3:39:16when an institution protects the voices

3:39:18of persons with greater power while

3:39:20persons reporting harm becomes less

3:39:23visible.

3:39:27A genuine uh we ask that uh we ask the

3:39:30city for a genuinely fair and

3:39:32independent investigation conducted by

3:39:34someone with experience in

3:39:35discrimination, harassment, retaliation,

3:39:39and workplace uh workplace power. We

3:39:42remain open to honest dialogue, but

3:39:45private dialogue cannot replace

3:39:47transparent public accountability. Our

3:39:51faith calls us to pursue truth

3:39:53faithfully and repair where where harm

3:39:56has is found. Anaheim deserves a process

3:40:00that protects human dignity, establishes

3:40:03the facts, and strengthens trust in the

3:40:06public's democratic institution. Thank

3:40:08you.

3:40:12>> We'll have our next speaker, Jose

3:40:14Molino.

3:40:28Justice for Albert Arola.

3:40:32>> My name is Jose Moreno, president of Los

3:40:35Amigos of Orange County, which has been

3:40:38meeting every Wednesday morning at 7:30

3:40:40a.m. for over 48 years since 1978.

3:40:47born of police riots where in Chico

3:40:49youth and residents were attacked by the

3:40:51Anaheim police at Little People's Park.

3:40:53An outraged community met with then

3:40:55mayor John Seymour with former mayor

3:40:57Bill Thch anchoring those meetings along

3:40:59with Amin David. A host of community

3:41:02voices arose establishing meetings every

3:41:04Wednesday morning where people from

3:41:06across our city could attend, petition

3:41:08for help that they may need, seek

3:41:10solutions or to discuss community

3:41:12affairs. We continue meeting this in

3:41:15this tradition with one guiding motto no

3:41:18gusta aayudar justice for Albert also

3:41:23at a time when we had few chico or

3:41:26latino elected officials and

3:41:27institutional leaders. Los amigos

3:41:29unapologetically

3:41:31stood up against racism and

3:41:33discrimination

3:41:34advocating for more diverse leadership.

3:41:37Los Amigos has initiated or participated

3:41:41in countless community actions,

3:41:43initiatives, and even lawsuits,

3:41:45including when Anaheim police illegally

3:41:47surveiled its residents for exercising

3:41:49free speech. when corrupt council

3:41:51members were giving away millions of

3:41:54dollars in corporate welfare to their

3:41:56donors. And when data showed that the

3:41:59city's electoral system suppressed the

3:42:01rights of Latino voters, which led to

3:42:03our current district-based electoral

3:42:05system,

3:42:07we stood up. Natalie, Carlos, and Norma,

3:42:12you are a product of that history.

3:42:15>> When you ignore us, you ignore your

3:42:17history.

3:42:19Mayor Aken, you have often partnered

3:42:22with us in our work, including standing

3:42:24up for district elections. For that, we

3:42:26will always be grateful, and with that,

3:42:28you have earned our community's patience

3:42:30with this investigation, and that it may

3:42:33be completed expeditiously. We also

3:42:35believe in due process. But we are now

3:42:38in a moment, a moment of reckoning. Our

3:42:40history is right with examples of what

3:42:42is possible when we engage in difficult

3:42:44but necessary conversations with the

3:42:46intent to heal, build bridges, and

3:42:48examine the root causes of what still

3:42:50ails our city's soul. Whether the

3:42:53allegations are true or not, the

3:42:55historically painful and diminishing

3:42:56term dirty Mexican is once a li once

3:42:59again revived in the language of our

3:43:00city. Look to your predecessors, Mayor

3:43:03Aken, for some guidance. Councilwoman

3:43:06Meeks, thank you for being the only

3:43:08council person to call for

3:43:10accountability.

3:43:12Natalie, Carlos, and Norma, our people

3:43:14marched, they organized, they fought for

3:43:17decades so that you could have th those

3:43:19seats. And your silence, your silence

3:43:24last week where you talked about ice

3:43:27cream and socials and unicorns and

3:43:29puppies does not help our people. For

3:43:32you to sit there is a betrayal to the

3:43:35ethics and the work of so many who have

3:43:36marched.

3:43:37>> Dr. Moran, I'm sorry your time is up so

3:43:39that you could have those seats.

3:43:45>> Our next speaker,

3:43:48>> Arali Alvarez.

3:43:51Are

3:43:54our next speaker Wendy Lopez.

3:44:00Next speaker, Ivonne Gonzalez Duncan.

3:44:12>> ADA seating is required by law.

3:44:19>> Ma'am, if we could bring an um

3:44:21microphone to you.

3:44:28>> Thank you.

3:44:30Good evening, uh, Mayor Akin and Oops.

3:44:36Good evening, Mayor Akin and honorable

3:44:38council members. My name is Ivon

3:44:41Gonzalez Duncan and I'm the former

3:44:44California state director for LUAC, as

3:44:47well as a member of the Anaheim LUAC

3:44:502848,

3:44:52which has been around also since the

3:44:541970s.

3:44:56These past 21 years I've been in LUAC,

3:45:01which is stands for the League of United

3:45:03Latin American Citizens and is the

3:45:06oldest civil rights organization to the

3:45:08nation of Latinos.

3:45:11I'm also a member of Los Amigos of

3:45:13Orange County. I have known Dr. Jose

3:45:16Moreno for the past 19 years and I know

3:45:19him as an honorable and kind person.

3:45:23He's also a husband, a father to four

3:45:25daughters, and a professor at a

3:45:28university

3:45:32>> as well as a leader in the Anaheim

3:45:34community. People look up to him as a

3:45:37Latino uh role model.

3:45:41This is Hispanic Heritage Month. hearing

3:45:44that a mayor from one of the largest

3:45:46cities in Orange County has been quoted

3:45:48as saying a derogatory remark about one

3:45:51of her employees and that they don't

3:45:54feel safe with Dr. Moreno is

3:45:56unbelievable.

3:45:58Anaheim is supposed to be the city of

3:46:00kindness which is promoted through the

3:46:03school districts as well as the young

3:46:05people in the community.

3:46:07Latinos in Anaheim are the 53% of the

3:46:11population. Imagine how students feel in

3:46:15hearing that the mayor thinks someone is

3:46:18a dirty Mexican.

3:46:20>> In our letter that was sent to Mayor

3:46:23Akin, the Anaheim community

3:46:25organizations would like to have a

3:46:27dialogue with the mayor to be

3:46:30transparent and address these issues.

3:46:33Thank you for listening and I look

3:46:34forward to meeting with all of you.

3:46:39Our

3:46:45[applause]

3:46:45next speaker.

3:46:53>> Good evening, mayor and city council. My

3:46:56name is Elia Garcia and I am here

3:47:00because I know that there's been a lot

3:47:01of concern in our community about the

3:47:03allegations involving the mayor. Ashley,

3:47:05I know your family has done a lot of

3:47:07work with the immigrant community. I

3:47:08worked at the family justice center. We

3:47:10had an immigration clinic that your

3:47:12family sponsored. But I think it's

3:47:14important that we allow the appropriate

3:47:16process to move forward, that we the

3:47:18facts that are established fairly, and

3:47:20that everyone involved is treated with

3:47:21dignity and respect. At the same time, I

3:47:24also think that we can acknowledge that

3:47:26this conversation has been painful for

3:47:28many people, especially members of our

3:47:29Latino community.

3:47:32I stand on the shoulders of the Latinos

3:47:33that have come before us here.

3:47:36And right now, families are ready are

3:47:39already carrying so much. People are

3:47:41worried about paying rent. Families are

3:47:43living in more crowded housing because

3:47:45of affordability has become such a

3:47:47challenge. In some of our denser

3:47:49neighborhoods, parking is extremely

3:47:51limited and residents are dealing with

3:47:52the stress of citations and having their

3:47:54cars towed.

3:47:56These are the kinds of everyday issues

3:47:58people are facing. So for me, this

3:48:01moment is not about remembering the

3:48:02importance of listening to our community

3:48:04and making sure people feel heard,

3:48:05respected, and represented. It is also

3:48:08about leadership. Leadership does not

3:48:10always mean having all the answers right

3:48:12away. Sometimes it means listening,

3:48:15acknowledging that people are hurting

3:48:17and making sure that they know that

3:48:19their concerns matter.

3:48:21I believe in transparency,

3:48:23accountability, and respect. But I also

3:48:26believe in keep in giving people the

3:48:28space and fairness they deserve while

3:48:29the facts are being established. Most of

3:48:32all, I believe our residents deserve

3:48:34leaders who are present in their

3:48:36neighborhoods, who understand what

3:48:37families are going through, and who are

3:48:39willing to listen even when the

3:48:41conversation is difficult. Our community

3:48:44deserves to feel seen, heard, and

3:48:47respected. Thank you, city council.

3:48:54our next speaker.

3:49:02>> Uh good evening, uh mayor and city

3:49:04council members. Um I'm here tonight on

3:49:06behalf of my community regarding an

3:49:08ongoing issue involving a vacant parcel

3:49:10located um on count on the county island

3:49:13that is only physically accessible

3:49:15through our property here in uh Anaheim

3:49:17proper. Uh we have a problem, we have a

3:49:19solution and what we really need is

3:49:21execution. So a little over a year ago,

3:49:23unhoused individuals began occupying

3:49:26this parcel. At its peak, there were

3:49:27about 20 people living there. Because

3:49:29our private street was the only physical

3:49:31access point, the situation directly

3:49:33impacted uh our residents and uh our the

3:49:36children living in the community. We

3:49:38experienced vandalism, theft, drug use,

3:49:40and a multitude of other issues um

3:49:43associated with that in and around our

3:49:44community. A major complication was that

3:49:47one of those individuals claimed that he

3:49:48owned the property and because the

3:49:50parcel sits across the city boundary,

3:49:52there was uncertainty about uh

3:49:54jurisdiction, whether that was in

3:49:55Anaheim or the county. Our community

3:49:57spent an extraordinary amount of time

3:49:59researching this issue. We reviewed the

3:50:01assessor records, deeds, development

3:50:02plans, entitlements, spoke with city and

3:50:04even former employees. What ultimate uh

3:50:07what we ultimately established uh

3:50:09working with the state and the county

3:50:10was that there was no recorded easement

3:50:12to allow this individual right uh to

3:50:14access the parcel. And additionally,

3:50:16this person didn't uh even own the

3:50:17parcel. As a private community, we took

3:50:20the necessary steps to secure the

3:50:22property. We engaged with the 602

3:50:24trespass notices, posted signs, work

3:50:26with APD, community policing, kind of

3:50:28the whole nine yards. We also recognize

3:50:30that APD has a tough job and we

3:50:32appreciate the work and collaboration so

3:50:34far.

3:50:36However, the problem right now is

3:50:38execution. This individual continues to

3:50:40enter our property despite being told by

3:50:42us that he's uh trespassing. A few

3:50:46months ago, he came and vandalized our

3:50:47fence. Then this week, he returned and

3:50:49was caught with a saw attempting to

3:50:51vandalize our property again.

3:50:52>> People over.

3:50:56>> So, we called APD. Patrol officers

3:50:59responded and made contact with him. uh

3:51:01the res the resident asked that he be

3:51:04formally given a trespass warning uh so

3:51:06he would understand that returning to

3:51:07our property would uh uh could result in

3:51:10arrest. Instead, we were told that he

3:51:12was simply asked to leave and that

3:51:13officers believe he had a right to be in

3:51:15our property. We were then referred back

3:51:17to community policing. I understand that

3:51:19patrol officers responding to a call

3:51:21should not be expected to know the

3:51:23entire history of a complicated property

3:51:24and jurisdictional issue, but that's

3:51:26exactly why I'm here tonight. We already

3:51:28worked with the city, county, and APD to

3:51:31establish a solution. We need to make a

3:51:33uh we need to make sure there's a way

3:51:35that the solution is communicated and

3:51:36consistently understood by officers

3:51:38responding to our community. My question

3:51:40for tonight is what can we do to gap

3:51:42that bridge uh bridge that gap? My

3:51:45neighbors are frustrated with the on uh

3:51:47with going around in circles uh getting

3:51:49pushed around referring to different

3:51:50people. We don't want to waste uh uh

3:51:53officers times. We don't want to waste

3:51:54the city's monies responding to uh our

3:51:56property. One of my neighbors um shared

3:51:59that, you know, we have over 50 calls of

3:52:00service. We want a clear, documented

3:52:02process that allows responding officers

3:52:04to understand the property status and to

3:52:06take appropriate action when this

3:52:07individual returns. Uh my contact

3:52:09information is on the

3:52:10>> Sorry, your time is up

3:52:11>> and I'll be in the back if anybody needs

3:52:13to follow up. Thank you so much.

3:52:14>> Do we have someone from planning here? I

3:52:15I agree. I don't want you to have

3:52:17multiple people that you have to go

3:52:20through in order to um to solve this

3:52:23problem, but do we have somebody from

3:52:25planning here? Maybe I don't know.

3:52:28>> Yeah, I can have staff meet with him in

3:52:29the back of the room.

3:52:30>> Okay, that would be wonderful. Thank

3:52:31you.

3:52:32>> Thank you.

3:52:32>> Thank you, Mr. Garcia.

3:52:38>> At least the cub didn't kill him.

3:52:40>> Our next speaker,

3:52:42>> thank you for proving our point.

3:52:50>> First thing giving honor to God on the

3:52:52council is honoring the God of the

3:52:55people.

3:52:56You know, the [snorts] first time I was

3:52:57down here, we we was fighting for

3:53:00district elections. Why? Because all the

3:53:04council people lived in district six in

3:53:07the hills.

3:53:09Wasn't getting representative

3:53:11of people down off the hill. That was a

3:53:15big fight.

3:53:17One of the reasons we have so much chaos

3:53:20is because there's Disneyland. Yes,

3:53:25>> they going ahead and putting millions of

3:53:26dollars into our elections. They

3:53:28shouldn't have to be able to put put But

3:53:30I'mma say this right here. It's a lack

3:53:33of respect for the people who built

3:53:35Disneyland.

3:53:37>> The people who built Disneyland were

3:53:39Hispanic. Now, we talk about 53%. How

3:53:44this doing? It's a It is a calculated

3:53:47effort to get Hispanic people out of

3:53:50Anaheim.

3:53:52Well, how keep raising the rent?

3:53:55>> Keep raising the rent every year. Some

3:53:58of you came in here saying that you was

3:54:00for rent control. It's never been

3:54:02agendaized. Never been on a agenda,

3:54:06especially when we went ahead and had uh

3:54:11the chaos that we had from our last

3:54:13mayor. We had 500 apartments that was

3:54:15supposed to go ahead and be built for

3:54:17the Disneyland people in 1996. It got

3:54:20lost in the shuffle.

3:54:22Disney

3:54:25runs this city putting millions of

3:54:27dollars, millions of dollars talking

3:54:30about the settlement of police. See, if

3:54:33you want to go ahead and cut down on

3:54:35police shooting,

3:54:37make the settlements go towards their

3:54:39retirement.

3:54:42>> If you do that, they won't be so fast to

3:54:44pull the trigger. I'mma say this for the

3:54:47Arzola people, justice and peace for

3:54:51them. Why? Cuz there's chaos in that

3:54:55whole investigation. Because

3:54:56investigations are like surveys. Who's

3:54:59putting it on? They influence the

3:55:02results.

3:55:04Camera, the man that was with him,

3:55:06partner did not turn on the camera.

3:55:09>> Didn't turn on the camera. You had a

3:55:11police shooting. We needed to go ahead.

3:55:13You know what you need to do? you you

3:55:15need to go ahead and when those sirens

3:55:18come on, the cameras come on

3:55:21>> so they don't have to worry about

3:55:22turning them on. But let let make make

3:55:25sure it's do it like this.

3:55:28Listen, investigations, like I said, can

3:55:31be tainted. We talk about people not

3:55:33being prosecuted. Our district attorney

3:55:37was a reserve policeman.

3:55:41So if he's a reserve policeman, who side

3:55:43he going to side on?

3:55:46Okay. So my the point is this right

3:55:48here. The city 53% of this

3:55:52residents are

3:55:55Hispanic.

3:55:56>> Mr. Batis, I'm sorry your time is up.

3:55:58>> Thank you, Teresa. But my point of it is

3:56:01is rent control.

3:56:04>> That's what you supposed to do. You

3:56:06supposed to be concerned.

3:56:07>> Thank you, Mr. Batista. I'm sorry.

3:56:09>> Thank you. three minutes.

3:56:13>> Our next speaker.

3:56:17>> Hi again. Um I'm Lisa Sarter. Uh I want

3:56:20to acknowledge and um just give my heart

3:56:22to you guys. Um open a film million

3:56:25dollar parent center in Salt Lake City,

3:56:26Utah for my Hispanic families. They're

3:56:28very dear to my heart. Um um I wanted to

3:56:30talk about some things that are going on

3:56:32with Anaheim Housing Authority again

3:56:33that are under the umbrella of of a very

3:56:35used to be corrupt mayor. I don't know

3:56:38um Ashley very well. Mayor Ashley and I

3:56:40have to say that I'm not hearing very

3:56:42good things tonight, but I make my own

3:56:44decisions on things. Anyway, there was

3:56:46letters on I asked for a copy of my pile

3:56:48um from Anaheim Housing and on the front

3:56:50of every pile there was like one little

3:56:52letter of a lot of um false information

3:56:55um and written false statements and um

3:56:57false statements is according to act 18

3:56:59USC United States code one 101 10001

3:57:03which makes it u a federal crime to

3:57:05knowingly and willfully make a a

3:57:07material false statement to a federal

3:57:10agency and u programs. So, um, HUD zone

3:57:13rules also require that third-party

3:57:15documentation of a homelessness other

3:57:17than available are are available. Um, I

3:57:20was, uh, there was a note that I was not

3:57:22homeless during the year of 2021. I was

3:57:24homeless for a year. I did work with,

3:57:26um, city council. I mean, we did work

3:57:28with, um, um, city net and they were, I

3:57:30worked with them the day after I was

3:57:32introduced to them here. Uh, so that

3:57:34information is on file. So, that's

3:57:36inaccurate information that's on my

3:57:37file. Another reason they dropped

3:57:39another voucher of mine from mainstream

3:57:41uh a mainstream voucher that I applied

3:57:42for in 2021. I wanted to go over um ACES

3:57:46something was said about my son having

3:57:47asthma and that um Karen Cardwell so

3:57:49sorry he had asthma and I needed

3:57:51accommodations. I just want to read to

3:57:53you what my son has and I have all the

3:57:54documentation right here. He had PVCs

3:57:56ventricular teocardia hyper lip lipidmia

3:58:00family history of sudden cardiac death

3:58:01with his father who died at 41.

3:58:03depression, anxiety, weak response to

3:58:05numaccoal vaccine, sorry, active micro

3:58:08bacteria, pneumonia, he had aspiggilis,

3:58:10fumigitis, infection in his lungs, CDHD,

3:58:13oppositional defiant disorder, strep

3:58:15throat reoccurring,

3:58:17dis datonomia, POTS, postroatic

3:58:20ticardia, pandas, pediatric autoimmune

3:58:22psychiatric disorder associated with

3:58:24streptoal infection. He had far

3:58:27ferangitis, suicidal ideiations. Um

3:58:30[snorts] he had migraine headaches on a

3:58:32daily basis, mop plasma pneumonia. Um

3:58:36autoacoustic hearing loss, abnormal labs

3:58:39all the time. He had [snorts] orthosic

3:58:41tacocardian hypertension, MTHFR gene

3:58:44variant, immune system weakness and over

3:58:47[snorts] reaction, colitis, hyper um by

3:58:50hypo hyprotectinis labs, increased CRP,

3:58:54vascular headaches, immune deficiency,

3:58:57anemia, microhyperro, hyperchromic

3:59:00andthalosmia, impaired cognition and

3:59:02focus. Um there's a thing called ACES

3:59:04and it's called um it's for uh children

3:59:07to diagnose them to see how much uh

3:59:08toxicity there is in their life to find

3:59:10out how well they'll grow up in their

3:59:12life. He [snorts] had one with my family

3:59:14and I because his father passed away

3:59:16after what the housing did to me um

3:59:18because other social drivers have helped

3:59:20me also cause

3:59:21>> I'm so sorry your time is up [snorts]

3:59:28>> Lupe Hernandez

3:59:38[snorts]

3:59:39alcadesa concales

3:59:42personal

4:00:14Carlos Leon

4:00:30Special

4:00:31Jimmy.

4:01:05Compens.

4:01:28>> [applause]

4:01:31>> Good afternoon, Mayor and uh the council

4:01:36members. My name is Guadalupe Hernandez

4:01:38and I am member of the great community

4:01:40here of the city of Anaheim. First of

4:01:42all, I would like to give you my uh

4:01:44gratefulness for the opportunity to be

4:01:47able to come and speak with you and also

4:01:50through Exalt my name and that of my

4:01:52neighbors uh in gratefulness to the

4:01:56district of Anaheim for all of the work

4:01:58that has been done in my neighborhood. I

4:02:00would like to more than everything else

4:02:02express my deep uh thankfulness to

4:02:05council member Carlos Leon for the e

4:02:08effort that he has demonstrated to be

4:02:11able to resolve the problems and more

4:02:13importantly for the problems that we had

4:02:16with the lighting security homelessness

4:02:19etc. I would also like to extend my

4:02:21gratitude for a in a very special way to

4:02:24Mr. Jimmy Galvan for taking care of the

4:02:28work that was the lighting in my

4:02:31neighborhood. He was supervising the

4:02:32work that was realized uh to make sure

4:02:35that it was done on time with good

4:02:37quality. As a result of this magnificent

4:02:39work, it is impactful in such a way in

4:02:42our neighborhood. It has now gave us a

4:02:45sense of security. This is the same way

4:02:47in which I wish to be grateful to the

4:02:50police department for listening to our

4:02:53problems and our um anxieties

4:02:57and that's giving us as a result a more

4:02:59better vigilance and better um taking

4:03:02care of our neighborhood as a part of

4:03:04the police department. I am convinced

4:03:06the closeness between the community, our

4:03:09representatives and our authorities will

4:03:11give better results to our communities

4:03:14being safer. Thank you very much for

4:03:16your time and I hope that we continue to

4:03:18work together.

4:03:25Our next speaker.

4:03:30Hello, my name is Scattle. I'm here

4:03:32standing in solidarity with our Zello

4:03:33family. Many months have passed since

4:03:35the murder of Albert. Seasons have

4:03:37passed and they have yet to receive any

4:03:39justice. A young man loses his life and

4:03:42his whole future while his murderers

4:03:43Nathan Garcia and the unknown man get to

4:03:47live on like nothing ever happened. This

4:03:49is exactly what Anaheim is known for and

4:03:52the reputation that you have. Will this

4:03:54family ever be given any sort of

4:03:56timeline? Will they get to see the day

4:03:59that these killer cops be put in a jail

4:04:02cell? The city of Anaheim is quick to

4:04:05put our brown and black neighbors away,

4:04:07but we'll stand next to crooked cops and

4:04:09hide them. It's a shame. Ashley, how is

4:04:13anyone supposed to trust that you

4:04:14actually stand with us with these

4:04:16accusations of calling us dirty

4:04:19Mexicans? We can't ignore that Albert

4:04:21comes from a Mexican working-class

4:04:23family, just like many of us that live

4:04:25here. We already lack trust with Anaheim

4:04:27BD. Now, we definitely lack trust with

4:04:30you as our mayor. If you are under

4:04:33investigation, it must be swift,

4:04:35thorough, and transparent. But I doubt

4:04:38it will it will with the track record

4:04:40that this city has. Once again, I'm

4:04:42leaving here with anger in my heart for

4:04:44the lack of response for Albert's case.

4:04:47And leaving with more questions and

4:04:49answers. Shame on you, Ashley, for the

4:04:51alleged racist remarks. Shame on Anaheim

4:04:54PD for the murder of Albert. And I pray

4:04:56for true justice for the Arzola family.

4:05:02our next speaker.

4:05:06[applause]

4:05:11Um, good evening, mayor and members of

4:05:14the city council. Um, my name is Eric

4:05:17Kihano and I'm here tonight alongside my

4:05:20family to issue to to issue a serious

4:05:25warning to this city about what's been

4:05:28happening behind closed doors at Anaheim

4:05:31High School. We are standing before you

4:05:33because our family is being

4:05:36systematically targeted and the school

4:05:39and the school administration is

4:05:41actively flipping the narrative to make

4:05:43us look like the bad guys.

4:05:45The the the the breaking point happened

4:05:50at football practice. Another student

4:05:53pulled down my face mask, started

4:05:55choking me, slapped my helmet, and

4:05:58assaulted me. While doing this, he

4:06:00called me the n-word hard r. I know I

4:06:04don't look black, but through my

4:06:06ancestry, I am part black and I'm a mix

4:06:10of everything. And to me, that just hurt

4:06:12me deeply. And honestly, it's just wrong

4:06:15that they're not doing anything. Yet,

4:06:17instead of protecting the victim,

4:06:20Anaheim High School kicked me off the

4:06:22football team while the student who used

4:06:25vile racial slurs faced zero

4:06:27consequences.

4:06:29When when we asked for a proper timeline

4:06:33consequences,

4:06:35um while we asked for a proper timeline,

4:06:38the student was never investigated. The

4:06:40student who used the vile racial slurs

4:06:42faced zero consequences when when we

4:06:47asked for a proper timeline investigate.

4:06:49They refused. Instead, the school

4:06:52completely flipped the story. They

4:06:54fabricated the narrative to make it look

4:06:57like we were trying to jump the other

4:07:00student. Completely twisting a racially

4:07:03motivated assault to blame my family.

4:07:07This toxic environment isn't just

4:07:09affecting me because our family spoke

4:07:13up. They retaliated. No. Um, they

4:07:16retaliated against my siblings, too.

4:07:18They kicked my brother Elijah off the

4:07:21football team and they kicked my sister

4:07:23off the cheer. They didn't do anything.

4:07:25They [snorts] have completely stripped

4:07:26us of all our student of

4:07:30um of our student lives, banning us from

4:07:33ASB, Apac and student and community

4:07:36school, the community schools program.

4:07:39The calculated corruption is h happening

4:07:41under the dis the direct watch of

4:07:45principal Ruben Gayto. It has gone far

4:07:48beyond school politics and it is a

4:07:52matter of safety. My mother has been

4:07:54forced to file two separate police

4:07:57reports against the principal Cytos

4:07:59because he almost physically assaulted

4:08:01my mother and my sister right on the

4:08:04school site. I know public schools are

4:08:07managed by the school district board,

4:08:10but you are the leaders of this city.

4:08:12You oversee public safety and our local

4:08:16police department. We have a public ser

4:08:18we have a public servant. Sorry, your

4:08:20time is up.

4:08:21>> Of powers. Can I just finish? To attack

4:08:24a family, protect a racist asalent, and

4:08:28punish innocent siblings. It threatens

4:08:31the safety of every youth in Anaheim.

4:08:34>> Sir, you're

4:08:35we are we are here to warn you, and we

4:08:39are asking this council to stand with

4:08:41our family, look into the hostile

4:08:44environment at Anaheim.

4:08:46>> Sir, your three minutes are up.

4:09:01Aren't you

4:09:03alumni?

4:09:08>> Our next speaker.

4:09:15>> Good evening. Good evening, mayor and

4:09:17members of city council. My name is

4:09:19Kayla Martinez. I am a senior at NIM

4:09:21High School class of 2027. I am here

4:09:24tonight because I want the city council

4:09:26to know what has been happening to me

4:09:28and my family. For over more than two

4:09:30years, I have felt like I have been

4:09:32treated unfairly at my school and pushed

4:09:35away from opportunities that other

4:09:37students have been given. I was denied a

4:09:39spot at ASB. I joined yearbook so I

4:09:42could still be involved in school and I

4:09:44was told to leave the football field

4:09:46while I was taking pictures. I also I

4:09:48was also denied a football manager

4:09:50position after I accepted it and I was

4:09:53blocked from being cheer captain when I

4:09:55was voted cheer captain by my my high

4:09:58school by my varsity team. Things became

4:10:01even more serious after my brother was

4:10:03assaulted at school. I was suspended

4:10:05from athletics and I feel that I was not

4:10:09given a fair chance to explain my side

4:10:12of what happened. There was also an

4:10:14incident at Glover Stadium where I was

4:10:16experienced physical assault threats and

4:10:19harassments from a parent. After that, I

4:10:21was placed into the ILC program. I want

4:10:24to be clear that I am thankful for the

4:10:27teachers and staff in ILC who have made

4:10:29me feel safe and supported. But I don't

4:10:32believe I don't believe that any student

4:10:35should have to be separated from any

4:10:38everyone else just to feel safe at

4:10:40school. For more than a year, I have re

4:10:43reached out to people in in the school

4:10:46in the school district and asked for

4:10:48help. I have spoken to super Dr. Jarn

4:10:50Frerieded. I have spoken to Amy Quan,

4:10:53Amy Maya, and Mr. Ron Hosshi. I have

4:10:56been told that my concerns have been

4:10:58addressed, but I'm still here today

4:11:00asking for help. I believe my family and

4:11:03I have been treated differently because

4:11:05of conflicts involving my mother and her

4:11:07speaking up about concerns at the

4:11:10school. and district. I am not here

4:11:12tonight to attack anyone. I am here

4:11:15because I want people to know what is

4:11:17happening. I want to be able to go to

4:11:19school, participate in activities, and

4:11:22feel safe without feeling like I'm being

4:11:24pushed. I'm being punished for speaking

4:11:27up for what is right. I am asking the

4:11:29city council to listen, to understand

4:11:32what is happening, and to help make sure

4:11:34students in Anaheim have a safe and fair

4:11:38place to learn. Thank you so much for

4:11:40hearing me.

4:11:45>> We have our next speaker.

4:12:02Good evening, city council, mayor, and

4:12:06council members. My name is [snorts]

4:12:08Linda Martinez, and I am an advocate for

4:12:11students here in the city of Anaheim.

4:12:13I'm an established civic leader for more

4:12:14than 20 years. And I am a resident, a

4:12:18mother of three Anaheim High School

4:12:20alumni as well. And I'm here tonight

4:12:22because my children, Eric, Kayla,

4:12:24Elijah, deserve a safe, respected,

4:12:26included, included, and treated fairly

4:12:29at their own community school, Anaheim

4:12:32High School. For more than two years, I

4:12:34have raised serious concerns with AUHSD

4:12:37Superintendent Jiren Freed regarding

4:12:39Principal Ruben Cayto and what I allege

4:12:42is a pattern of discrimination,

4:12:44isolation, segregation, intimidation,

4:12:46harassment, and retaliation involving my

4:12:49children. I also believe my children are

4:12:51being targeted because I'm exercising my

4:12:53constitutional rights to speak publicly

4:12:55and run for the Anaheim Union High

4:12:57School District Board of Trustees. I

4:12:59allege that Principal Cayto's conduct

4:13:02towards my family has been connected to

4:13:05my advocacy and my campaign and that my

4:13:08children are being affected because I

4:13:10have chosen to speak up. There are also

4:13:12serious safety concerns involving my

4:13:14family. On October 17th of 2024, my

4:13:17daughter Kayla was physically assaulted

4:13:19at Glober Stadium. I have also reported

4:13:21alleged threats against Kayla and our

4:13:23family, including an allegation that

4:13:25this woman threatened to kill my

4:13:27daughter. I have provided Anaheim Police

4:13:30Department with documentation and police

4:13:31reports concerning these incidents.

4:13:33There is a substantial collection of

4:13:35police reports concerning this woman

4:13:37that I have reported to APD. There are

4:13:39also been multiple requests for

4:13:41restraining orders filed in Orange

4:13:43County Superior Court concerning these

4:13:44safety concerns. Unfortunately, I'm

4:13:46standing here today without the

4:13:48protection I have repeatedly sought

4:13:50because those requests for restraining

4:13:52orders have been denied, and the

4:13:54harassment has not stopped. I allege

4:13:56that this woman has continued to harass

4:13:58me and my family and has gone to great

4:14:00lengths to target me publicly, including

4:14:02sharing personal court documents on my

4:14:04campaign page in an effort that I

4:14:06believe is intended to damage my

4:14:08reputation. I am asking that the Anaheim

4:14:10Police Department take these allegations

4:14:12seriously, including patterns of context

4:14:14of the conduct and determine whether the

4:14:17actions reported are intentional and

4:14:19whether the laws have been violated.

4:14:21Then on August the 17th, my son Eric was

4:14:24assaulted on the Anaheim High School

4:14:25football field by this woman's son. I'm

4:14:28identifying the connection between these

4:14:30incidents because from the family's

4:14:31perspective, there's events that created

4:14:34ongoing and serious concerns of the

4:14:35safety of my children. At the same time,

4:14:37my children have experienced what I

4:14:39allege is a pattern of exclusion from

4:14:41school opportunities and activities,

4:14:43including ASB, community schools,

4:14:45freshman representatives, football,

4:14:47basketball, cheer, theater, and other

4:14:49programs. I am not asking the city

4:14:51council to conduct an investigation. I'm

4:14:53asking you as Anaheim's elected

4:14:55representatives and community leaders to

4:14:57intervene and have conversations

4:14:59directly with AUHSD leadership in

4:15:01Anaheim Police Department. I am asking

4:15:03you to listen to our family, communicate

4:15:05these concerns to the district and help

4:15:07make sure that my children are

4:15:08experiencing does not happen to another

4:15:10child. My child should not have to lose

4:15:13opportunities, feel isolated

4:15:16because their mother has chosen to

4:15:18advocate for them. Excuse me, ma'am. I'm

4:15:19sorry. Your three minutes are not become

4:15:21collaborate.

4:15:23>> Ma'am,

4:15:26ma'am, I'm going to have to ask you to

4:15:29stop. Ma'am,

4:15:33>> ma'am, your three minutes are up. Could

4:15:35you please

4:15:38open to the next speaker?

4:15:44>> Ma'am,

4:15:51Ma'am,

4:15:59>> ma'am, I'm going to ask you to thank you

4:16:01very much,

4:16:05Mayor and City Council. That concludes

4:16:08general comments for our in-person

4:16:10speakers. We will now turn to our remote

4:16:12participants. We did receive four

4:16:14speaker cards and we'll go ahead and

4:16:15call them in the order that those cards

4:16:17were received. Our first speaker is

4:16:19Bobby Olay. Bobby Olay, if you can

4:16:22please unmute yourself at this time.

4:16:28Bobby, you can begin when you're ready.

4:16:33Bobby

4:16:44Bobby,

4:16:51mayor and city council, we'll go to the

4:16:52next speaker and then return to Bobby

4:16:54Olay.

4:16:58If our next speaker, Leslie Lopez,

4:17:04if you can unmute yourself at this time.

4:17:07She's unmuting herself right now.

4:17:13>> Leslie, if you can go ahead and speak.

4:17:30Leslie, can you be heard? Can you hear

4:17:33us?

4:17:38Mayor and city council, if you can give

4:17:40us a please moment while we treat see

4:17:42what's happening with our audio.

4:18:05Give us one moment. Mayor, city council.

4:18:21Mayor and city council, if we can just

4:18:22please pause for one moment. We're going

4:18:25to go ahead and check with our PE um our

4:18:27audio team.

4:18:32>> Yes. If you can just do a brief recess

4:18:34at this time. Okay. go ahead and recess

4:18:37the Anaheim City Council meeting while

4:18:39we uh figure out this issue over here.

4:19:14Look who showed up.

4:19:25The police chief of Anaheim, California.

4:19:39>> [snorts]

4:20:22>> Where's the popcorn?

4:21:00It's just not It's not coming in here.

4:21:03>> Yeah, it's on Zoom. We could hear them

4:21:05clearly hear you.

4:21:06>> He could hear in Granagicus and you can

4:21:08hear there but you cannot hear in here.

4:21:11>> Okay.

4:21:11>> Do they know?

4:21:13>> So it's working through Granus. It's

4:21:15working through Zoom. Like if you would

4:21:17log into the Zoom but it's not coming in

4:21:19here.

4:21:22>> So let me see if we

4:21:54Hallelujah.

4:22:39Testing zoom. Testing zoom.

4:22:52City clerk staff, if you can please

4:22:53count to one, two, three.

4:22:58>> Testing. One, two, three. One, two,

4:23:00three.

4:23:04>> You could be heard. Thank you, staff.

4:23:09>> I have

4:23:11Steve

4:23:14>> [snorts]

4:23:23>> Uhhuh.

4:23:46Okay, we're going to try this one more

4:23:48time

4:23:51and reconvene the Anaheim City Council

4:23:53meeting.

4:23:56So, mayor and city council, apologies

4:23:57for the delays. It turns out it was

4:23:59going externally but not internally in

4:24:01this chambers. Um, to our remote

4:24:03speakers, we apologize. We're going to

4:24:05try this one more time. Bobby Olay,

4:24:09if you can please unmute yourself at

4:24:11this time,

4:24:14>> can everyone hear me?

4:24:16>> Yes, Bobby. Thank you. Thank you for

4:24:18your patience. We appreciate you

4:24:19joining. I'm going to go ahead and start

4:24:21the time and you could go ahead and

4:24:22address city council. Go ahead.

4:24:26I support council member Meeks's

4:24:29suggestion last week with with the

4:24:31investigation of the mayor and right now

4:24:34I back the mayor

4:24:37and also to

4:24:40you guys Anaheim has a has a cancer

4:24:44right now.

4:24:45>> You guys Keith said you you guys need to

4:24:48fire the Nason Garcia and give give

4:24:52closure to the family.

4:24:55They they they deserve it.

4:24:58>> They really do. They need Thanks to

4:25:02Nathan Garcia, they can't He can't He's

4:25:06not going to turn 21.

4:25:09They They need closure, guys.

4:25:13Thank you for your time.

4:25:17[applause]

4:25:17>> Thank you, Bobby. We'll go to our next

4:25:20speaker, Leslie Lopez. if you can please

4:25:23unmute yourself at this time.

4:25:28>> Hello. Um,

4:25:30>> hi. Hi.

4:25:30>> Okay, you can hear.

4:25:31>> Yes, go ahead and begin.

4:25:32>> Sounds good.

4:25:33>> Hello. My name is Lusty Lopez and I'm

4:25:36here once again on behalf of my cousin

4:25:38Albert Barzola and our family. We

4:25:41continue to come before the council

4:25:42because we still have questions and we

4:25:45still have demands about transparency

4:25:47and accountability regarding Albert's

4:25:49death. Albert was only 19 years old. He

4:25:51was a son, a cousin, a nephew, and

4:25:54someone deeply loved by his family. He

4:25:56was hardworking and he had an entire

4:25:58life ahead of him and his life mattered.

4:26:00One of the questions that continues to

4:26:02haunt our family is why did officer

4:26:04Nathan Garcia have his gun drawn so

4:26:07quickly? What assessment was made before

4:26:09that weapon was drawn? What threat did

4:26:11he believe existed in that exact moment

4:26:13knowing that Albert was running into his

4:26:15house and he pulled him back where he

4:26:17then later shot him in the head in the

4:26:19back?

4:26:20These questions deserve answers. We

4:26:23watch what happened to Albert. Our

4:26:24family wants to understand every

4:26:26decision that led to a 19-year-old

4:26:28losing their lives. And Norma, I think

4:26:30you should also be asking the police

4:26:32chief these questions, too. Why is an

4:26:34officer who fatally shot my cousin

4:26:37working in the same community while the

4:26:39circumstances surrounding Albert's death

4:26:41continue to be unanswered? You were

4:26:43elected to represent and uplift your

4:26:45community. So I ask you directly, do you

4:26:48believe the decision to keep him in

4:26:49District 4 builds trust between your

4:26:51community and the police department?

4:26:54Officer Garcia has a past history of

4:26:56excessive force in separate lawsuit

4:26:59involving a minor. Our community

4:27:00deserves to know what training,

4:27:02evaluation, supervision, and review took

4:27:04place before he returned to the

4:27:06community. I truly believe that if an

4:27:08Anaheim PD had given Nathan Garcia the

4:27:11proper consequences the first time he

4:27:12had a excessive force lawsuit, my cousin

4:27:14would be alive today. And another issue

4:27:17that cannot simply can that can simply

4:27:20not be ignored is the mayor's chief of

4:27:23staff and her allegations that the mayor

4:27:27said that she didn't want her car driven

4:27:29by a dirty Mexican. As a

4:27:30Mexican-American, that family as a

4:27:33Mexican-American family that has

4:27:35repeatedly stood before this council

4:27:37asking to be heard, those allegations

4:27:40are painful. Mexican and Latino families

4:27:42are a major part of Anaheim. We work

4:27:44here. We raise families here. We

4:27:45contribute to the city. We deserve

4:27:47dignity and respect from the people who

4:27:50represent us. And these allegations make

4:27:52when these allegations became public,

4:27:55council member Natalie Meeks, who

4:27:57publicly called for an investigation.

4:27:59Yes, Natalie Meeks, not to be confused

4:28:01with Natalie Rubikava, since we already

4:28:03know that she supports Officer Nathan

4:28:05Garcia, who killed Albert Arzola, a

4:28:08Mexican mal on December 6th. It makes me

4:28:11question where the voices are of the

4:28:14Latino council members who represent so

4:28:16many Latino families in this city. Our

4:28:19family has repeatedly asked for

4:28:21transparency. We have repeatedly asked

4:28:23for accountabil accountability and we

4:28:25have repeatedly asked for elected

4:28:27officials to listen. Albert was 19 years

4:28:30old. He was our family. His life

4:28:33mattered and we will continue to show up

4:28:35and ask questions and demand answers

4:28:38>> and say his name.

4:28:40>> Leslie, I'm sorry. Your time is up.

4:28:43Our next speaker, Elijah, if you can

4:28:45please unmute yourself at this time.

4:28:48[applause]

4:28:52Hello, Anaheim City Council. My name is

4:28:55Elijah Manosero and I'm actually a

4:28:57Fullerton resident. I live just right

4:29:00down the road, but um I wanted to speak

4:29:03on something that affects both of our

4:29:04cities and that is the uh um Orange

4:29:08County Council of Governments or OKOG.

4:29:11Uh this is it's a kind of a low

4:29:13visibility board, but it has a lot of um

4:29:17impacts to uh housing and and SCAG and

4:29:21how many uh housing units the state is

4:29:24going to tell you to build. And this

4:29:27wasn't really reported, but the person

4:29:31that this board appointed as their

4:29:34executive director last year was Brian

4:29:38Pbolski, which was not talked about at

4:29:41all. This is the same Brian Powolski who

4:29:44served on OCPA. he was the executive

4:29:47director who was hired despite not

4:29:49having a degree or any experience

4:29:51whatsoever

4:29:53um to justify his hiring and there was

4:29:56no competitive process and everyone here

4:29:59I think knows what happened with OCPA

4:30:03after that. Um, with Brian specifically,

4:30:08he has a threshold of how much money he

4:30:10can spend without board approval and he

4:30:12was allegedly according to the LA Times,

4:30:15he was splitting up the contracts so

4:30:18that it's smaller amounts just so he

4:30:19gets right below that threshold and

4:30:21giving out contracts without a

4:30:23competitive process or the normal

4:30:26procedures that should be uh present in

4:30:28these kinds of contracts.

4:30:31So, I was surprised and kind of appalled

4:30:35that uh OKOG made him their executive

4:30:40director in a unanimous vote. So, I'm

4:30:43here just to share that with you. And I

4:30:45know that the council member who is on

4:30:48that board is a new council member. It's

4:30:51possible maybe he didn't have the full

4:30:53context, but um I do think it's a little

4:30:56bit problematic that someone like Brian

4:30:58Pbolski is on another public agency

4:31:02after everything that happened at OCPA.

4:31:04And I would really like to see this city

4:31:07and other cities uh in Orange County um

4:31:11express that same concern because this

4:31:12is an important issue and it's going to

4:31:14have uh impacts on

4:31:17the um on the arena numbers that you're

4:31:20going to get from Sky. So, uh, it's just

4:31:22something to consider. And again, I

4:31:24don't want to make any personal

4:31:25judgments because I know it's a it's a

4:31:27fairly new council member, but, um, I

4:31:30think it is a problem that Brian Pbolski

4:31:32is the executive director of Oak. So,

4:31:35uh, thank you for your time.

4:31:38>> Our next remote speaker, David Duran, if

4:31:41you can please unmute yourself at this

4:31:43time.

4:31:50Thank you.

4:31:53>> You can go.

4:31:54>> Can you hear me? Okay.

4:31:55>> Yes, we can. You can go ahead and begin

4:31:57when ready.

4:31:59>> Justice for our Zola family, please. And

4:32:03the mayor of Anaheim has been accused of

4:32:05receiving, you know, a $16,000 gift for

4:32:09her husband from a Qatar embassy. the

4:32:12very same issue she was up in arms about

4:32:14regarding Jim Vanderpool's Havasu trip

4:32:17in in January. The mayor is facing

4:32:20allegations from her chief of staff that

4:32:23on numerous occasions use the words

4:32:26dirty Mexican when referring to her

4:32:28chief of staff and again on numerous

4:32:31occasions by harassing her and others

4:32:34regarding their sexual orientation.

4:32:37Since the mayor is an attorney, she

4:32:40should know that harassment becomes

4:32:42unlawful when unwelcome conduct conduct

4:32:46is based on protected class and becomes

4:32:49severe or pursuant enough to create a

4:32:51hostile environment or result in an

4:32:54adverse employment action. Anaheim

4:32:57residents also deserve answers. Speaking

4:33:00Spanish doesn't prove that the racist

4:33:02allegations are false. Holding a pride

4:33:05flag doesn't prove that the sexual

4:33:08orient orientation uh harassment

4:33:11allegations are false. Public symbolism

4:33:15is not evidence that specific conduct

4:33:18did not occur. Mayor Aken, when these

4:33:21allegations first became public, you did

4:33:24not immediately issue a denial.

4:33:27You asked residents to look at your

4:33:29record and the values demonstrated

4:33:32through your actions. Yes. When your

4:33:34husband received more than 16,000 in

4:33:38Qatar travel paid for by the Qatar

4:33:41embassy, I think it's fair to say you

4:33:44demonstrated your values al are which

4:33:48are also in question. Leadership

4:33:51leadership accepts expectations

4:33:54throughout an organization. If an

4:33:56investigation substantiates the

4:34:01highest level of city government, then

4:34:04the council must examine whether there

4:34:06are broader institutional failures. I

4:34:10would guess there are. We absolutely

4:34:12should ask whether Anaheim has a culture

4:34:15in which accountability is applied

4:34:17consistently regardless of or whether

4:34:21the person involved

4:34:30Mayor and city council. Then that

4:34:32concludes our remote speakers. We will

4:34:35now um conclude noting for the record.

4:34:37Also stating for the record, we did

4:34:39receive electronic comments on the um

4:34:41city agenda. We received six general

4:34:44public comments. Each of those were

4:34:45distributed to city council as well as

4:34:47posted on the city's website and can be

4:34:49found at anaheim.net public comment.

4:34:53Thank you. We will now close the public

4:34:55comment portion of this meeting and move

4:34:56to council communications. Are there any

4:34:58council members with items to share? Uh

4:35:02start with count council member Compost

4:35:04Curts.

4:35:07>> Thank you.

4:35:09>> Those who know me know that I usually

4:35:12speak from the heart and not from a

4:35:16scripted prepared statement.

4:35:19Tonight,

4:35:21while speaking from the heart, I have

4:35:23prepared my remarks.

4:35:27I've been working and struggling with

4:35:29what I need to say.

4:35:33I struggle because I don't want to cause

4:35:35more harm to our city, Anaheim.

4:35:40But in my heart, I need to not only

4:35:45respond to the people I represent,

4:35:49but to stay true to who I am.

4:35:54I am a Mexican.

4:35:56An East LA Mexican

4:35:59raised to be proud of who I am and where

4:36:03I came from.

4:36:06grandfathers who worked in the fields.

4:36:11A grandmother who boarded the red car in

4:36:13LA every day with her mop and pale and

4:36:18rode to Union Station to wash out the

4:36:20train cars so that our boys from East LA

4:36:24would board clean trains on the way to

4:36:27fight a war.

4:36:30My father was an auto mechanic.

4:36:34My mother worked in a factory.

4:36:37all came home tired,

4:36:40sweaty, and dirty.

4:36:45>> I stand with Council Member Meeks in

4:36:47demanding an expedited investigation.

4:36:51[applause and cheering]

4:36:54>> If the allegations are shown to be

4:36:56correct, I will also ask for the mayor's

4:36:58resignation.

4:37:04>> Mr. City Attorney,

4:37:06I would like to request that a special

4:37:09meeting of the city council be scheduled

4:37:12prior to our next regular meeting of

4:37:14October 13th

4:37:17>> so that the council may meet in close

4:37:19session with the city attorney's office

4:37:22regarding the threatened litigation

4:37:24litigation stemming from the alleged

4:37:26conduct of the mayor. separately. I

4:37:30would like an update on the public

4:37:32release of the claims documents

4:37:36submitted by Mrs. Bionis.

4:37:39Also,

4:37:40status of the investigation.

4:37:43Thank you, [snorts]

4:37:46[applause]

4:37:49>> Council Member Ma.

4:37:52>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I don't have a

4:37:54prepared statement, but I want to uh

4:37:57acknowledge uh my lack of communication

4:38:01regarding this issue. There is no room

4:38:04for racism in our city, period.

4:38:08Um, and I'm not only concerned about how

4:38:11our residents feel, but how our city

4:38:13staff feels. Um, I look forward to all

4:38:16the facts coming forward

4:38:20>> and anybody who's using this for

4:38:22political gain or political theater, I

4:38:25think has shown lack of character.

4:38:28Um, and so I think we need to really

4:38:30wait for the facts to come out. Um, I'm

4:38:33Mexican myself. if I don't look it and I

4:38:35haven't been included in some of the

4:38:37comments tonight, but I'm half Mexican

4:38:40and um

4:38:42I've myself been called out and beat up

4:38:47and left in a parking lot by a group of

4:38:49men for calling out racism years ago.

4:38:52So, if anybody wants to discuss where my

4:38:55heart is, where my actions are, I'm

4:38:57here. Um and that's all I have to say on

4:39:00this matter for now. Um, moving on. I do

4:39:03have a couple of slides and I do have

4:39:05some more comments, but I'd like to get

4:39:07back to city business. So, if I can

4:39:10start with my two slides.

4:39:12Uh, this past Saturday, we had our

4:39:15monthly cleanup at the Miraloma Family

4:39:18Resource Center and we had several

4:39:21students from the Anaheim Elementary

4:39:23School uh district join us by their

4:39:26choice. Um, and so they were really

4:39:28proud to be there. We had a good

4:39:30conversation about why we're there

4:39:32picking up trash, where the trash goes,

4:39:36and um hopefully they will uh show up to

4:39:39our next cleanup. We'll be cleaning up

4:39:41around Lincoln Park on Saturday, October

4:39:4324th. Everyone's invited. Uh we talk, we

4:39:47pick up trash, and uh it's a good

4:39:49opportunity to connect. Next slide.

4:39:54I want to thank our Anaheim uh workforce

4:39:57development team for putting together a

4:40:00fantastic career expo today. Uh

4:40:03something I've really been championing

4:40:04to include our trades uh when we do

4:40:07these career expos. I was told we

4:40:10haven't had an expo at the convention

4:40:12center in 9 years. And when I was there

4:40:15at noon today, we had 3,000 people had

4:40:18already come through. So, um I really

4:40:21again appreciate the city staff for

4:40:23putting that on, for listening to what

4:40:26we say up here and taking that into

4:40:28action. So, um thank you again. There

4:40:30were um not only uh businesses and

4:40:33healthc care, hospitality, banking and

4:40:35so on. There were universities there. Uh

4:40:38Santa Ana College was there. There were

4:40:41military branches there. Our city

4:40:43departments there and again the trades

4:40:45were there to share about really great

4:40:47opportunities here in our city.

4:40:50That's all I have for my slides. Um, I

4:40:52do want to acknowledge two other things.

4:40:55Uh, one is that we had a community

4:40:57meeting earlier this month in regards to

4:41:00traffic safety concerns on Senica

4:41:02Street. Um, it was a really uh, great

4:41:05meeting. About 60 residents came out and

4:41:08uh, we heard a lot of requests for

4:41:10increased enforcement around the schools

4:41:13on Sun-Kissed. And so I want to thank

4:41:15Chief Sid and thank your team for

4:41:18listening to those concerns and for

4:41:20increasing enforcement around Suniss

4:41:23Street. And uh for all those driving in

4:41:25the area, please slow down and beware um

4:41:28because we have increased enforcement.

4:41:30And then I also want to acknowledge um

4:41:33some comments that were made tonight

4:41:35about some parking enforcement that took

4:41:37place. Um the comments were directed to

4:41:39my colleague but um it was actually in

4:41:41district five where a lot of it

4:41:43happened. So about a week ago uh

4:41:46officers went out and canvased

4:41:48neighborhoods and passed out about a

4:41:50thousand flyers clarifying what rules

4:41:54what parking uh rules are enforcable.

4:41:58And so over the past couple of days, um

4:42:01there has been enforcement taking place

4:42:03and it's always in the spirit of safety.

4:42:06We need to make sure that fire trucks

4:42:09can get in and out of neighborhoods so

4:42:11we can respond when there are

4:42:13emergencies. So I just wanted to clarify

4:42:15where the enforcement took place and the

4:42:17why behind it. I'll be working on a

4:42:19community meeting with our police

4:42:21department and public works to continue

4:42:26the conversation about parking and

4:42:28parking management and the problems that

4:42:30it creates. So that's all my comments.

4:42:33Thank you.

4:42:35>> Thank you, Council Member Rubikava.

4:42:41>> Thank you, city clerk. I believe I have

4:42:43some slides. And as we are waiting for

4:42:45the slides to come up, I just want to

4:42:46mention I do have the opportunity to

4:42:48represent 50,000 residents in the city

4:42:50of Anaheim. I was born and raised in the

4:42:52city and 50% of the population in my

4:42:55district are Latino and it is a

4:42:57privilege to be able to represent such a

4:42:59great population, but I'm really happy

4:43:01to highlight with its bittersweet a

4:43:04project that we've been working on for

4:43:05about a year. Uh we um rolled this out

4:43:08in council member Leyon's district

4:43:10because that's where this young lady

4:43:11lived. But September is suicide

4:43:14awareness month. Uh, and I am uh,

4:43:16grateful that we were able to leverage

4:43:19the great skills of our city staff,

4:43:21Shaunie Larson Cash, and her team to um,

4:43:24really help this family as they grieve

4:43:27through some of the pain that they've

4:43:28sustained. Their daughter was being

4:43:30bullied at some of our local at one of

4:43:32our local schools and as a result, she

4:43:34decided to take her life. um as part of

4:43:37their mission and healing, they've

4:43:38decided to really give back to the

4:43:40community in an effort to prevent

4:43:42another child or person from committing

4:43:44suicide or taking their life. Uh

4:43:47thankfully, we partnered with a local

4:43:49artist who has also beautified our

4:43:51entire city through our local elementary

4:43:53schools. Her name is Carla Ro and Carla

4:43:56created this beautiful mural uh in

4:43:59collaboration with our city. We um it is

4:44:02at a local park at Clara Barton Park. If

4:44:04you have not had a chance to go past it,

4:44:07please visit it. The message on the wall

4:44:10is um you uh the world is a better place

4:44:13because you're in it. We want to remind

4:44:15everybody that they have meaning even

4:44:17though they may feel hopeless. Uh it is

4:44:19something that is really important for

4:44:21us, not only for our local youth, but

4:44:22also for adults who might be struggling.

4:44:25There's also a resource on the mural for

4:44:27anybody who might need to seek help

4:44:29immediately. I also want to thank my

4:44:32council colleagues for all being in

4:44:33attendance on Friday when we unveiled

4:44:35this beautiful mural in uh her name is

4:44:38Mia Mahia in Mia's memory. She would

4:44:40have been 14 years old which is the age

4:44:43of my daughter as well. So, it's near

4:44:45and dear to many of our hearts. And as

4:44:46the family grieavves through this

4:44:48process, we're happy to be able to

4:44:50install this mural, not only in Mia's

4:44:52memory, but really in the movement

4:44:54that's even greater than than her um

4:44:57than what happened to her, but also just

4:44:58helping to prevent it from happening to

4:45:00somebody else.

4:45:05Next slide. So, we do have a community

4:45:07meeting. So, if anybody would like to

4:45:09attend, District 3's community meeting

4:45:11is coming up on October 14th. It is the

4:45:14day after our council meeting. There are

4:45:16topics that we will be discussing that

4:45:18are uh really important to the community

4:45:20including uh various cameras or other

4:45:23public safety issues. We will also be

4:45:25addressing coyotes. I have asked

4:45:27residents to provide other issues that

4:45:29they are dealing with. We're very aware

4:45:31of all of the challenges that we face. I

4:45:33know that many people have talked about

4:45:34parking. Parking is not a problem that

4:45:36we can really fix once it's started, but

4:45:38it is something we can prevent through

4:45:40proper planning on our housing front.

4:45:42So, as a council member, I'm very

4:45:44educated on these topics. So, it is my

4:45:46um duty to make sure that we are

4:45:48preventing further impaction in our

4:45:50neighborhoods. And as I walk our

4:45:52communities, these are things that I'm

4:45:53very aware of alongside many of our city

4:45:56staff. So, thank you for your

4:45:57partnership to all of them for the work

4:45:58that they do on behalf of our city.

4:46:02I also have to highlight one of our

4:46:04local treasures, uh Labou Boutique,

4:46:07which is located in my district. Um if

4:46:09you have not been, you should. It is a

4:46:12gem in our city really. Um, but it's

4:46:14located on Lemon and North and they will

4:46:16be having a House of Spirits on October

4:46:1920. I think it says 25th or 23rd to the

4:46:2231st. I highly recommend going early

4:46:24because it is lines around the corner.

4:46:26Uh, they do various events uh multiple

4:46:29times a year, but it is a great uh store

4:46:32to visit. It's a local small business,

4:46:34family-owned, and they do employ many of

4:46:36our youngsters who are focused on um

4:46:39positivity in our city.

4:46:43And then I also want to ask um Mayor

4:46:45Aken to close the meeting in memory of

4:46:48Danny Clavl. So Danny passed away this

4:46:51past month. He leaves behind a wife

4:46:53Tracy. They were high school

4:46:55sweethearts. Uh he passed away due to uh

4:46:57West Nile virus is what we are being

4:47:00told. They still resided in our city. He

4:47:02was a Laera graduate. His wife is an

4:47:04Anaheim High graduate. He leaves behind

4:47:06five kids and 13 grandchildren. I will

4:47:09also be posting a GoFundMe as the family

4:47:12unexpectedly lost him this year. They

4:47:14are looking for uh donations to help

4:47:16support the family as they are going

4:47:18through this really difficult time of

4:47:20their lives.

4:47:22And then I also just wanted to uh

4:47:24mention a couple of things. I want to

4:47:25say something to our Zola family. And I

4:47:27know that you guys are grieving and

4:47:29going through a very difficult time in

4:47:31your life. And it's not lost on me that

4:47:33you come to our meetings and that we

4:47:35don't get to speak back to you. But I

4:47:37also just want to to mention a couple of

4:47:40things. You know, I know that you want

4:47:42to hold us responsible and that you're

4:47:44right and we are uh doing a proper

4:47:46investigation, but the fact is this does

4:47:48remain an ongoing investigation. The

4:47:51bodywn camera footage has been released

4:47:53in an independent investigation by

4:47:55independent agencies are currently

4:47:57reviewing the circumstances of what

4:47:59happened. those agencies which are

4:48:01through the county, not the city of

4:48:03Anaheim, actually hold and distribute

4:48:05when that autopsy report is conducted.

4:48:08The city does not participate in that

4:48:10process at all. And I also have to

4:48:12mention that there was a loaded Tech 9,

4:48:15a gun banned by name under California

4:48:17law, which was at the scene that created

4:48:21a serious safety threat for the officers

4:48:23and first responders trying to

4:48:25administer aid. Supporting law

4:48:27enforcement does not mean I believe

4:48:29officers are above the law, but having

4:48:31weapons on scene further complicate

4:48:33things. You may disagree with me. You

4:48:36may be angry with me. That's your right.

4:48:39And if it makes you feel better, that's

4:48:40okay. But I was elected I was elected to

4:48:44represent this community. And I will

4:48:46continue to do that with integrity, with

4:48:49compassion, and with respect for others

4:48:51and the facts. I can have compassion for

4:48:54the family and still stand by due

4:48:56process.

4:48:57>> So, thank you for coming here, but just

4:49:00so you know, we are focused on making

4:49:02sure that the investigation is proper

4:49:04and there are third parties agencies.

4:49:09>> So, I can listen to criticism without

4:49:11abandoning what I believe is right, but

4:49:14my condolences are with your family. But

4:49:16I just

4:49:19[cheering] change THE NAME OF YOUR

4:49:21SCHOOL.

4:49:22But we do want you to know there is a

4:49:25third party investigation and it is

4:49:27being conducted. So

4:49:35>> thank you, Mayor Aken. I'm going to go

4:49:37ahead and conclude my council comments.

4:49:41>> Thank you.

4:49:43>> Thank you.

4:49:45The next person to share their council

4:49:47communications will be council member

4:49:49Bis and then Mayor Prom Leon.

4:49:54>> Thank you.

4:49:56>> Vote her out. Anaheim,

4:49:58>> what about the 14-y old kid?

4:50:02>> What about the comment from the mayor?

4:50:03>> You know, when I got elected, the first

4:50:05thing I did was swore to uphold the

4:50:07Constitution.

4:50:09And as far as I know, the constitution

4:50:11says you are innocent until proven

4:50:13guilty.

4:50:16>> Execution should be against the law.

4:50:19>> So, but she determined

4:50:21>> I gave you guys Hey, come on.

4:50:22>> Officer has the right to kill my nephew.

4:50:24>> She just said it right now.

4:50:26>> Natalie, he shot in THE BACK. YOU KNOW

4:50:29THAT.

4:50:30>> I gave each and every one of you guys

4:50:32your your due. Now it's my turn.

4:50:35>> Hey, excuse me. Excuse me.

4:50:38We we listened during your three minutes

4:50:41each. Please

4:50:44>> please

4:50:45>> show him the respect

4:50:47>> that he gets.

4:50:48>> You shows respect for Mexican people.

4:50:52>> We listen to you every time. Matzel. Now

4:50:54let's listen to my council colleague.

4:50:57>> Do your job.

4:50:58>> I am doing my job right here, right now.

4:51:00Please.

4:51:02>> I have period.

4:51:04>> I have at Thank you. Anyways, where I

4:51:07was going with this was

4:51:09I believe strongly innocent until proven

4:51:12guilty. I want to say that uh

4:51:16>> Council Member Meeks brought up uh an

4:51:18issue last week at the end with the

4:51:20mayor and my silence was strictly that

4:51:22hey, I agree. If I didn't agree, you

4:51:25would have heard from me. And what I

4:51:27want to say is uh perhaps maybe I don't

4:51:32know how to do this because I know that

4:51:33it's not in the charter, but I know when

4:51:36we have investigations in the city and

4:51:38whatnot, we oftent times will put a

4:51:40staff on investigatory leave. And I

4:51:43don't uh

4:51:46I don't know how to do that on city

4:51:47council, but what I would ask the mayor,

4:51:50I mean, we're obviously got some pain

4:51:53out in the community and maybe it's a

4:51:55good idea toend suspend the public

4:51:57calendar until the investigation is

4:51:59over. I do ask that it is an independent

4:52:03investigation and I ask for it to be um

4:52:06expedited as quickly as possible. With

4:52:09that, I want to also say that I had the

4:52:12opportunity to attend the California

4:52:14League of Cities this week. I also had

4:52:16the opportunity to go to the Orange

4:52:18County Division of City Clerks meeting

4:52:21and I'd like to uh just give a quick

4:52:23shout out to our city clerk, Teresa

4:52:25Bass, who was appointed by her peers,

4:52:28the second vice president uh of the

4:52:30group there. So, congratulations to

4:52:32Teresa. I think that speaks volumes of

4:52:34our city manager or excuse me, our city

4:52:36clerk. And then the other thing I also

4:52:38want to bring up, I don't have a uh

4:52:40slide, but I do have a community meeting

4:52:42on October 7th at 5:00 p.m. at the West

4:52:45Anaheim Youth Center. Again, that's

4:52:47October 7th, 5:00 p.m. at the West

4:52:49Anaheim Youth Center. Thank you.

4:52:52>> Thank you, Mayor Prom.

4:52:56>> Thank you, uh, Madame Mayor. I do want

4:52:58to express my gratitude to my colleague

4:52:59for her work on the newest mural in

4:53:01District 2 honoring the life of Mia

4:53:04Mahia. Um, and as I said then, I very

4:53:07much appreciate her family's continued

4:53:09advocacy uh, in light of a tragedy. Um,

4:53:12I want to thank them for their continued

4:53:14good work uh, and to for for making such

4:53:18a positive uh, difference um, in the

4:53:21community. So, I want to thank them and

4:53:23and thank everybody. Uh, JJ, I want to

4:53:24give a special shout out. I know that

4:53:26they were working as well as Shaunie

4:53:27very closely with the family and uh,

4:53:30just wanted to say that I appreciate

4:53:32that. Uh, Madame Clerk, uh, this past

4:53:34weekend, uh, I wanted to share that we

4:53:36held our shake ready earthquake and

4:53:38emergency preparedness event, and it was

4:53:41great to see so many residents come out

4:53:43to learn how they can better prepare

4:53:45themselves and their households for an

4:53:47emergency. I want to thank our Anaheim

4:53:49Fire and Rescue team, especially

4:53:51Alejandra Solano, for leading the

4:53:53presentation and walking residents

4:53:55through what to do before, during, and

4:53:58after an earthquake. I also want to

4:54:00thank the Anaheim uh Police Department,

4:54:02Anaheim Public Utilities, the American

4:54:04Red Cross, and friends of families for

4:54:06their support and for helping make this

4:54:08event possible. One of the biggest

4:54:11takeaways is that the time to prepare is

4:54:14now. When an earthquake hits, that is

4:54:18not the time to start figuring out your

4:54:20plan. Talk with the people in your

4:54:22household about what you'll do, how

4:54:24you'll reconnect if you're separated.

4:54:26Start building an emergency kit with

4:54:28enough essential supplies to get through

4:54:30a disruption in services. And during an

4:54:33earthquake, remember to drop, cover, and

4:54:35hold on. Don't run outside while the

4:54:37ground is shaking. Once the shaking

4:54:39stops, be prepared for aftershocks and

4:54:41check your surroundings for hazards.

4:54:44Emergencies can happen with little

4:54:46warning. So, taking basic steps now can

4:54:48make a real difference when that time

4:54:50comes. And if you left this event with

4:54:52one message, I hope it was that we

4:54:55should not wait until an emergency

4:54:57happens to figure out what we should

4:54:59have done beforehand. So, uh, to all of

4:55:01our residents, please make sure that,

4:55:04uh, you are making your plan now and

4:55:06making sure that your household is

4:55:07ready.

4:55:09Um, I know that my colleague alluded to

4:55:11this. I I wanted to give a quick update

4:55:13as well on the work of the Orange County

4:55:15Mosquito and Vector Control District.

4:55:17The district works year round to monitor

4:55:19mosquito populations, uh, test for

4:55:21diseases like Westnile virus and reduce

4:55:24mosquito breeding throughout Orange

4:55:25County. We are seeing higher than normal

4:55:28Westnile virus activity in mosquitoes

4:55:31across the county and the state and that

4:55:33includes here in Anaheim as well. This

4:55:35is something that the district monitors

4:55:37regularly and uh the response is driven

4:55:40by data. More than 200 mosquito traps

4:55:43are set weekly across Orange County to

4:55:45help us track mosquito populations and

4:55:48disease activity so the district can

4:55:50determine where treatment is needed and

4:55:52what response is appropriate.

4:55:54Additionally, field inspectors are out

4:55:56in the community daily to inspect and

4:55:58treat routine sources that hold water,

4:56:01inspect homes when requested by

4:56:03residences, and look for new areas in

4:56:05the community that may be potential

4:56:07mosquito breeding sources. Well, when

4:56:10adult mosquito control treatment is

4:56:12necessary, it is targeted based on that

4:56:14surveillance data. You've probably seen,

4:56:16if you live in your neighborhood, you

4:56:18may have seen a a warning sign that

4:56:20says, "Here's uh here's what we're

4:56:22doing." The products used are registered

4:56:24for mosquito control. They're applied by

4:56:26trained professionals according to state

4:56:28and federal requirements. But one of the

4:56:30biggest things that we can do with this

4:56:32as well is prevention, and residents can

4:56:34make a real difference at home.

4:56:36Mosquitoes need very little standing

4:56:38water to breed. So, regularly check your

4:56:40yard weekly and dump out any water that

4:56:43has collected. That includes flower pot

4:56:46saucers, buckets, toys, or anything else

4:56:48outside that can hold water. You can

4:56:50also protect yourself from bites by

4:56:52using an EPA registered mosquito

4:56:54repellent when it is needed. And check

4:56:57window and door screens for holes that

4:56:58can let mosquitoes inside. I share this

4:57:02not for alarm uh but rather to um ensure

4:57:06the community as as a city's

4:57:08representative on the vector control

4:57:09district uh board um that there is a a

4:57:12reason to be proactive in protecting

4:57:14yourself. Obviously the team is out

4:57:16there um but you can be proactive in

4:57:18protecting yourself, protecting your

4:57:20community. Uh the district will continue

4:57:22monitoring uh conditions and responding

4:57:24based on the data and residents can help

4:57:27by eliminating eliminating those places

4:57:29that mosquitoes breed around their

4:57:31homes. And so with that, I look forward

4:57:33to seeing everyone out in the community,

4:57:34including uh the upcoming free health

4:57:36fair for active older adults. I'll

4:57:39continue to be out in our neighborhoods

4:57:41talking directly with residents, hearing

4:57:43your concerns and feedback, and working

4:57:45to address the issues that are affecting

4:57:46district 2. Thank you.

4:57:49Right.

4:57:51>> Thank you. Um I know this was already

4:57:54mentioned by council member Ma, but I

4:57:56did want to thank our um workforce

4:57:58development team for putting on an

4:58:01amazing regional career expo at our

4:58:04Anaheim Convention Center. Not only did

4:58:06we have continuing education uh

4:58:09representatives from Santana College

4:58:12where my both my parents went, uh we had

4:58:14members from the trades, our police and

4:58:16fire department, our city staff, and it

4:58:19was amazing to welcome 3,000 young

4:58:21people um looking for their next

4:58:23opportunity.

4:58:25Um I also want to um thank the teachers

4:58:29at Fullerton College. um they invited me

4:58:32to their polyai um class yesterday to

4:58:36talk about what it is like to be um an

4:58:39elected leader. They had good and tough

4:58:42questions which I was happy to um

4:58:45participate with them. Um and I just

4:58:47want to highlight how strong this

4:58:50program is, how strong the teachers are,

4:58:52and what a wonderful asset our community

4:58:55college system is. And if you're whether

4:58:58you're a young person coming out of high

4:59:00school or you are an adult looking for

4:59:03further education, our community

4:59:05colleges are the biggest gift. Um they

4:59:09are free, they are accessible, and we

4:59:11hope everyone can um take advantage of

4:59:15them. Um, as as far as my council

4:59:18colleagues, you know, I would expect um

4:59:23from my council colleagues that voted

4:59:26against my starting Anaheim Contigo and

4:59:29funding it, that voted against opening

4:59:31our libraries, that didn't want Anaheim

4:59:34to be a welcoming city. I can I can

4:59:38understand that and I can understand

4:59:39their viewpoints. Um, and I really just

4:59:43want to commend Council Member Curts on

4:59:45her bravery for coming out and joining

4:59:48this and kicking me while I'm down two

4:59:51weeks after this has happened. I have

4:59:53called for an independent investigation.

4:59:56We have all are mandated by the state to

4:59:59have an independent investigation and

5:00:02this process is going to play out. I

5:00:04welcome an independent investigation. I

5:00:07need this independent investigation to

5:00:09clear my name.

5:00:11And I really welcome it because that is

5:00:13what a democracy is all about. You are

5:00:16innocent until you are proven guilty.

5:00:19Thank you.

5:00:22>> He was guilty. He was dead. Shame on

5:00:25you, Natalie.

5:00:26>> So, we are going to go on to the city

5:00:28manager's update. Mr. Interim City

5:00:30Manager, do you have anything to report?

5:00:32>> Just a quick update, mayor and council.

5:00:35And this was mentioned previously uh

5:00:39>> with regard to our community open

5:00:40houses. And so it's that time of year.

5:00:43Uh our next round of community open

5:00:44houses across all six districts is

5:00:47coming up as we head into October. Uh we

5:00:49start with district 1 on October 7th and

5:00:52work our way through to district 6 on

5:00:55October 22nd. As you can see, the slide

5:00:57has all the dates and times. Residents

5:01:00can drop in anytime at their convenience

5:01:02from 5:00 to 7:00 p.m. and engage on the

5:01:04subjects they are interested in. Uh it

5:01:06is an openhouse setting with departments

5:01:08and city staff and they are there to

5:01:11speak to residents one-on-one. Kids are

5:01:14also welcome and we will have light

5:01:16refreshments on hand as well. You can

5:01:18find full details at

5:01:19anaheim.net/openhouse.

5:01:21Uh that concludes my update. Thank you.

5:01:24>> Thank you so much, Mr. Interim City

5:01:26Manager. We're now going to move to the

5:01:27city council's consent calendar. Items 1

5:01:30through 14 are before us. Are there any

5:01:33members that would like something

5:01:34pulled? Uh, council member Bis, do you

5:01:37have something?

5:01:41>> That was left over, but I do have three,

5:01:44six,

5:01:47and 13.

5:01:49>> Okay. And just as a reminder, um, if

5:01:51you're not if you're not ready to speak,

5:01:53you can just click on the button on your

5:01:55monitor and then you will be removed

5:01:56from my speakers list. Council member

5:01:59Leyon.

5:02:01>> Uh, thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh, I was

5:02:03also going to pull item 13 and I just

5:02:04wanted to note uh for the record a

5:02:06recusal on item nine just out of an

5:02:08abundance of caution, Madame Clerk, uh,

5:02:11make sure that there is no conflict with

5:02:13my employment. Thank you.

5:02:16>> Thank you. Uh there's no other items

5:02:18being pulled. So can I have someone move

5:02:20the rest of the consent?

5:02:24>> I'll move the balance to this consent

5:02:26calendar.

5:02:28>> Have a second.

5:02:29>> We don't want all the everything. We

5:02:32want everything.

5:02:33>> Do we have a motion in a second? Please

5:02:35vote.

5:02:36>> That wasn't the first time he went to my

5:02:39house.

5:02:40>> Okay. It was previous times, previous

5:02:43times that he WENT TO MY HOUSE AND

5:02:45SHOWED UP, called my son by his name.

5:02:49>> Okay. It wasn't the first time. And she

5:02:53don't know that. She has no PERMISSION

5:02:55TO TALK ABOUT MY SON. You don't know

5:02:57that. Did you see the cameras?

5:02:59>> Did you see?

5:03:00>> THEY SHOOT YOUR SON. HOW THEY SHOOT YOUR

5:03:03KIDS? THEN YOU'LL KNOW. YOU'LL NEVER

5:03:05KNOW.

5:03:06>> Your ancestors CAME FROM EUROPE. ALL

5:03:08YOUR ANCESTORS KILLED

5:03:11THANK YOU. Thank you folks. I

5:03:13understand. I understand this drama.

5:03:15>> I understand. Listen. I understand.

5:03:22>> Please. I understand. I do not I do.

5:03:26Thank you. I don't want to have to

5:03:28recess the meeting again.

5:03:31>> Thank Excuse me.

5:03:35If you continue to disrupt the meeting,

5:03:38we are going to have to go into recess.

5:03:41Please

5:03:42>> go and take

5:03:44I get it. Thank you.

5:03:47>> Thank you.

5:03:53>> Sergio, you had your time to speak.

5:03:55Please. Thank you.

5:04:00>> Okay. Ma'am.

5:04:02Ma'am, I need you to

5:04:14>> watch.

5:04:15>> All right. So, Mr. City Clerk,

5:04:18>> mayor and city council, the vote on the

5:04:19consent calendar is seven eyes, no nays

5:04:21with the recusal on number um item

5:04:23number nine by Mayor Prom Leon.

5:04:26>> Thank you very much. The first item

5:04:28pulled was item number three. Mr. Mr.

5:04:31City, I'm sorry. If you should ask my

5:04:32council colleague, would you like a

5:04:34staff report,

5:04:35>> please?

5:04:36>> Mr. City Manager, may we have a staff

5:04:38report?

5:04:38>> Yes, staff report will be provided by

5:04:40Heather Allen, our planning director.

5:04:43>> Good evening. Thank Thank you, American,

5:04:46members of the city council. Heather

5:04:47Allen, planning and building and

5:04:48director. I am joined this evening by

5:04:50Landre Rosco, senior planner, and Leoni

5:04:52Maill, assistant city attorney. The item

5:04:55before you tonight is a review of the

5:04:57development agreement for LAR's a town

5:04:59project.

5:05:01In October of 2005, the city council

5:05:04approved a development agreement

5:05:05governing uh governing development of a

5:05:07town. In October of 2015, the council

5:05:10approved a revised agreement allowing

5:05:12for the development of up to 1,746

5:05:16residential units, 50,000 square ft of

5:05:19commercial space, and two public parks.

5:05:22In May 2018, council approved an

5:05:24amendment to modify performance

5:05:25milestones to be completed by the years

5:05:282020, 2022, 2025, and 2030. Completion

5:05:32of each milestone grants the next

5:05:34corresponding extension.

5:05:37To date, the developer completed the

5:05:392020 and 2022 milestones, extending the

5:05:42revised agreement through October of

5:05:442025. The 2025 milestone requires

5:05:48construction of 462 additional

5:05:50residential units, of which 132

5:05:53currently remain outstanding. The final

5:05:56site plans for the remaining units,

5:05:58which are for areas B, C, and D, as

5:06:00highlighted in red on the screen, were

5:06:02approved by the planning commission in

5:06:042022 and early 2023. However, due to

5:06:07challenges financing large-scale

5:06:09mixeduse podium projects, the developer

5:06:12has not begun construction on the

5:06:14remaining 132 units and therefore did

5:06:16not complete the milestone due in

5:06:18October 2025 and the building permits um

5:06:21have expired. On December of last year,

5:06:25December 16th, the city council

5:06:27concluded its conducted its annual

5:06:29review of the revised agreement and

5:06:31determined that the developer was not in

5:06:33compliance. The council directed staff

5:06:36at that time to notify the developer of

5:06:38its intent to establish new development

5:06:40time frames. In response, the developer

5:06:43subsequently requested an extension to

5:06:45allow time to submit a formal

5:06:47application and complete the public

5:06:49hearing process to amend the revised

5:06:51agreement and the master site plan. On

5:06:54January 27th, 2026, the city council

5:06:57approved and established a new 10th

5:06:59anniversary milestone of this July uh 20

5:07:03July 31st, 2026.

5:07:05To date, the developer has not submitted

5:07:07a formal application to amend the

5:07:09revised agreement and master site plan

5:07:11or completed the required public hearing

5:07:13process. Accordingly, and again, the

5:07:16city council may determine that the

5:07:17developer has not complied in good faith

5:07:20with the terms and conditions of the

5:07:21revised agreement for the 10th

5:07:23anniversary milestone. In accordance

5:07:25with the procedures resolution, the

5:07:27council may then initiate proceedings to

5:07:30either establish a new timeline, modify,

5:07:33or terminate the development agreement.

5:07:36In response to the city's notification

5:07:38of the city council's intent to review

5:07:40the revised agreement this evening, the

5:07:42developer has requested another

5:07:44extension to allow additional time to

5:07:46submit a formal application and complete

5:07:48the public hearing process for the

5:07:50amendments to the revised agreement and

5:07:52master site plan. Although a formal

5:07:54application has not been not yet been

5:07:57submitted, staff believes the proposed

5:07:59amendments could be considered to allow

5:08:01for the completion of the Atown mixeduse

5:08:04project.

5:08:05Staff recommends that the city council

5:08:07determine that the developer, despite

5:08:09their good faith efforts, has not

5:08:11complied with the revised agreement's

5:08:1310th anniversary milestone and direct

5:08:15staff, per the procedures resolution, to

5:08:17provide notice of the city council's

5:08:19intent to modify or terminate the

5:08:21revised agreement at a public hearing to

5:08:23be held within 45 days. Staff further

5:08:26recommends establishing July 31st, 2027

5:08:30as the date on which the revised

5:08:31agreement would automatically terminate

5:08:33if modifications to the revised

5:08:35agreement have not been achieved. This

5:08:38would provide a focused final effort to

5:08:40facilitate completion of the Atown

5:08:41mixeduse project. We're happy to answer

5:08:43any questions you may have.

5:08:46>> So, member Bis.

5:08:47>> Thank you. Uh my first question is is if

5:08:50this development agreement is terminated

5:08:53um can you tell us or can you tell me I

5:08:56guess what is the action moving forward

5:08:58after that because we still have a

5:09:00property owner that's there. Correct.

5:09:02>> Correct. I'll I'll start and then if I

5:09:04miss anything uh Leon can chime in. So

5:09:07So essentially development in the

5:09:09Platinum Triangle requires a development

5:09:11agreement. Um there is an entitled

5:09:13project. Um so the developer would

5:09:16at whatever time they wanted to move

5:09:19forward um would pursue the playing

5:09:23field that is in place at that time.

5:09:26>> So does that mean everything resets? So,

5:09:29I guess what I'm asking is so parks uh

5:09:33any and all fees would reset back to

5:09:35whatever today's date is moving forward

5:09:37or do they still um would get the

5:09:40benefit of uh the date of the original

5:09:42agreement?

5:09:44>> So, the fees without the development

5:09:45agreement, the fees would be what is in

5:09:47place at that time?

5:09:51So, this might be a little premature,

5:09:53but I'm curious. How does a development

5:09:56agreement, if we terminate this one, how

5:09:58does a development agreement move

5:10:00forward looking at, say, parks

5:10:02considering they've already built two

5:10:03parks? Do we do we start over and

5:10:06require them, you know, additional

5:10:09additional parks or would we look back

5:10:13and give them credit for what was there?

5:10:16So specific to this development

5:10:17agreement or if we started

5:10:19>> well if we terminate this development

5:10:20agreement we are and hopefully I mean

5:10:22we're going to I guess the idea is right

5:10:25to work with the same developer again

5:10:27ask for some commercial space as being

5:10:29the priority and um moving forward from

5:10:32there. So I'm just curious they've

5:10:34already built a couple of parks. How

5:10:38would that look? I mean does it does it

5:10:39start over from zero I guess or would

5:10:41they get credit? So the the parks that

5:10:44have been built um were pursuant to the

5:10:46agreement that's in place and they've

5:10:48paid park fees for the units that have

5:10:51been constructed. So even if they come

5:10:53forward under the development agreement

5:10:55that's currently in effect, they would

5:10:57be paying the park fees at the rate

5:11:00that's set by this development agreement

5:11:02on any units constructed under this

5:11:04development agreement. If we're talking

5:11:06about a new development at some point in

5:11:08the future, that would be a new

5:11:10discussion.

5:11:11>> All right. Thank you.

5:11:14>> I'll move the motion if there's no other

5:11:16question.

5:11:16>> If you don't mind, council member,

5:11:18council member uh Ma.

5:11:21>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um I'm

5:11:23extremely disappointed with LAR and um

5:11:28their lack of movement and the specific

5:11:30uh anchor that would be a potential

5:11:33market or grocery store for this area.

5:11:35What do we expect to change between now

5:11:39and July that hasn't already they

5:11:42haven't already had an opportunity to

5:11:44work on? Certainly, I think um we all

5:11:47recognize on both sides all cards are on

5:11:49the table and um the next months kind of

5:11:53gives us both that last last hail Mary

5:11:56to see if we can continue this

5:11:58partnership that we've had. I think LAR

5:12:01um understands that this community has

5:12:04been waiting for a grocery store and

5:12:06we're hopeful. Um the reason that the

5:12:08motion is coming forward as it is is

5:12:11let's let's just try one more time,

5:12:12right? See if see if there's a a

5:12:15modification that works for both parties

5:12:17that can give us that store.

5:12:20>> Thank you. I would like to think that

5:12:21they are good community partners and

5:12:23want the best for uh the city of Anaheim

5:12:26and the Putham Triangle area. I support

5:12:29uh moving forward with terminating the

5:12:32agreement and what's been recommended by

5:12:35staff.

5:12:36>> So just to clarify, it would be um if I

5:12:38may uh put uh words in your mouth um to

5:12:42modify or terminate would be the actions

5:12:44that would be coming forward in a public

5:12:45hearing and at that time our

5:12:47recommendation would be to do both and

5:12:50set the ter termination date of July

5:12:5231st of 27 if modification is not

5:12:55achieved.

5:12:55>> Yes. what you said.

5:12:59Thank you. So, I think I interrupted

5:13:01Council Member Bis. Did you want to move

5:13:03the item?

5:13:05>> Okay.

5:13:06>> Thank you. We have a motion and a

5:13:07second. Please vote.

5:13:25Oh.

5:13:31Hold please.

5:13:49>> The vote is seven eyes, no nays. Motion

5:13:51carries.

5:13:53>> Thank you. The next item pulled um by

5:13:55council member Bis is item number six.

5:13:57Would you like a staff report?

5:14:00>> Mr. Interim City Manager.

5:14:04>> Yes. Staff report for item six will be

5:14:06provided by Rudy Amami, our public works

5:14:08director.

5:14:28All right. Good evening, Mayor and

5:14:30members of the city council. This

5:14:32evening, I have with me city engineer

5:14:34Carlos Casayanos and principal traffic

5:14:36planner Corey Wilkerson. Before you

5:14:39tonight is an agreement with Alta

5:14:41Planning and Design to develop Anaheim's

5:14:44citywide safe routes to school action

5:14:46plan. The city received a $980,000

5:14:51federal safe streets for all grant with

5:14:54an additional $245,000 provided through

5:14:57city staff time. The goal is to identify

5:15:00and prioritize improvements that make it

5:15:02safer for students throughout Anaheim to

5:15:04walk and bike to school.

5:15:07The scope includes assessments at up to

5:15:10100 schools. The team will observe

5:15:13arrival and dis dismissal conditions and

5:15:15identify issues such as unsafe

5:15:17crossings, vehicle and student

5:15:19conflicts, sidewalk gaps, bicycle

5:15:22network gaps, speeding and circulation

5:15:25concerns. Each assessment will result in

5:15:28school specific recommendations, maps,

5:15:30and planning level cost estimates. The

5:15:33primary deliverable is a comprehensive

5:15:36citywide safe routes to school action

5:15:38plan that positions projects for future

5:15:40grant funding.

5:15:43The project will take approximately 27

5:15:45months with the planning work

5:15:47anticipated to be completed by the end

5:15:48of 2028.

5:15:50We'll begin with data collection and

5:15:52coordination with the school districts

5:15:54followed by school assessments and

5:15:56community engagement. From there, we'll

5:15:59develop school specific recommendations,

5:16:01prioritize projects, and advance the six

5:16:04priority corridors before completing the

5:16:07final action plan. Importantly, we won't

5:16:09wait until the plan is finished. As

5:16:11priority projects are identified, staff

5:16:14will continue pursuing implementation

5:16:16grants and other funding opportunities

5:16:18to move these improvements forward. And

5:16:20that concludes my presentation.

5:16:22Available for any questions.

5:16:23>> You I'll turn it back over to Council

5:16:24Member Bis.

5:16:26Uh, thank you, Director Rudy. First off,

5:16:29let me just say this. I think this is a

5:16:31fantastic idea. Um, I love the fact

5:16:34that, you know, we're trying to get the

5:16:36cool the kids from their house to the

5:16:38school in a safe fashion. Um, couple

5:16:41questions that I was kind of maybe

5:16:44thinking outside the box and what I'm

5:16:45asking is do they apply to this uh grant

5:16:48that's here? But say for example um if

5:16:52we have a kid that has to walk maybe to

5:16:55along Beach Boulevard. When we say safe

5:16:57schools, is there any uh looking at

5:16:59Beach Boulevard in terms of uh

5:17:01prostitution and maybe making that route

5:17:03safer to school in that aspect or is

5:17:05this just simply looking at sidewalks um

5:17:09bike lanes and whatnot?

5:17:12>> So uh let me go back to the the heart of

5:17:15this project. You know, we've always

5:17:16used the safe routes to school uh

5:17:18program to be reactive to issues we have

5:17:21in the street. So, if we know we have

5:17:23gaps in our sidewalks or things like

5:17:24that, we use this this as a funding

5:17:26source. This is a different way of

5:17:28thinking about it. So, this is being

5:17:29very proactive and going out to our

5:17:31community early to do these walkability

5:17:34audits with them and hear all of their

5:17:36concerns. And when we're hearing those

5:17:38concerns, we're able to take that and go

5:17:40back to our partners in other

5:17:42departments, the police department,

5:17:43whatever the issue. So like the example

5:17:45you gave of prostitution or if it's some

5:17:47other issue through code enforcement,

5:17:49we'll be able to work with our other

5:17:50partners in the city to address all of

5:17:52those concerns.

5:17:53>> Oh, fantastic. So that's in possibly

5:17:55included then in this uh grant. All

5:17:58right, that's great. Another question I

5:18:00had is and I actually reached out to one

5:18:01of the superintendents. I reached out to

5:18:03Frank Donovan over in the Magnolia

5:18:05School District and he was definitely

5:18:07supportive of this and I was just kind

5:18:09of curious to ask him if he had an idea

5:18:11of how many kids maybe still walk to

5:18:13school. Um it seems as though there are

5:18:16still kids that walk and ride their

5:18:18bike, but a majority are getting dropped

5:18:20off. And I asked him for an estimate. He

5:18:22said roughly 20 to 25% are still either

5:18:26riding their bike or walking to school.

5:18:28And

5:18:30I guess the what I thought about this

5:18:32was are we is this project looking at

5:18:36areas that delineate drop off uh for the

5:18:40schools because sometimes what we'll

5:18:41notice is that the queue seems to back

5:18:43up sometimes on public streets and that

5:18:45could possibly create you know an unsafe

5:18:48condition uh traffic-wise when that

5:18:50happens. So I just curious if that's

5:18:52involved in this.

5:18:54>> Yes. And that is a condition that we're

5:18:56going to be looking at those on-site uh

5:18:58queuing and circulation issues. And

5:19:00again, this just gives us an uh

5:19:02opportunity to speak to all the schools

5:19:04because we address those issues as they

5:19:05come up individually at schools, but

5:19:07this is a systematic approach to to go

5:19:10to all the schools and then start to

5:19:11prioritize those projects.

5:19:13>> All right. And then my last question,

5:19:15and this is a real tough one, I know

5:19:16because um 20 years ago, at least I know

5:19:19I didn't have one. uh I would have loved

5:19:21one, but we we have a lot of ebikes out

5:19:24in the community at this point. And so

5:19:26I'm I'm I'm wanting to

5:19:28I guess check the box and say, are we

5:19:31looking at how kids may or may not get

5:19:33to school if they have to ride an ebike

5:19:35because I know what is it? If it's over

5:19:38x miles per hour, they're not allowed to

5:19:39ride on the sidewalk. They have to ride

5:19:41on the street and I know that can be

5:19:44perilous. So I'm just curious, are we

5:19:46also looking at the ebikes?

5:19:48So, we're listening to all concerns that

5:19:50the students are having, and I'm sure

5:19:52that's going to come up as well. And and

5:19:54we are working separately with our

5:19:56police department right now to look at

5:19:57how we address the ebike issue. But

5:20:00we're also treating it as regular

5:20:01bicycles if that's a way uh students are

5:20:04getting to school. So, if we look need

5:20:07to look at supplement supplementing our

5:20:09bike lanes and making routes safer, that

5:20:13that would be part of this project.

5:20:15>> Thank you. Appreciate that.

5:20:20Thank you, Council Member Meeks. And

5:20:22then Council Member Moss,

5:20:24you said this uh you're going to study

5:20:26100 schools. How many schools are there

5:20:28in Anaheim?

5:20:30>> Roughly about

5:20:30>> Yeah, I should know that.

5:20:35>> You can just like how are these how are

5:20:37these hundred selected?

5:20:38>> It's it's about 103 total. Um that

5:20:41includes all the the charters and

5:20:43everything. And you said

5:20:44>> monasteries.

5:20:45>> Yeah, there was three of them. We just

5:20:46decided not to do. [laughter]

5:20:51[gasps and snorts]

5:20:52>> Yeah, that's true. Some some schools

5:20:54just don't have kids that walk or bike

5:20:56to school.

5:20:56>> Oh, okay. All right. So, okay. This is

5:20:58great doing all the schools. I totally

5:21:00support this. It's a good way to look at

5:21:03it. I know we do a little bit every year

5:21:07on safe routes to school, but having a

5:21:09master plan so that we can prioritize

5:21:11those better is great. Thanks.

5:21:16Thank you. I really, really appreciate

5:21:18this. I've been spending a lot of time

5:21:20with our school since I got on council

5:21:22and while we don't have jurisdiction

5:21:24what happens on campus, my message has

5:21:26been we want to improve safety to and

5:21:29from school. So, thank you and helping

5:21:31us realize that. Um, I want to ask our

5:21:34bus stops included in this.

5:21:37>> Yes.

5:21:38>> And then I want to ask that we be

5:21:41invited. We may not be able to make

5:21:43every walk audit, but I would love the

5:21:45opportunity to join you. So,

5:21:47>> we'll we'll make that happen.

5:21:49>> Thank you.

5:21:52>> Thank you. If you could distribute that

5:21:54to all council, that would be helpful.

5:21:55Council member Curts,

5:21:59>> thank you. Um, I too support the

5:22:01project. Happy to hear that you're not

5:22:04going to wait the two years to then

5:22:08start, but we'll prioritize as you go

5:22:11along. and and start some work as funds

5:22:14become available. Uh so I I do support

5:22:18the project uh sorely needed in many of

5:22:20our neighborhoods. So thank you.

5:22:25>> Thank you. Council member Vis. Would you

5:22:27like to make the motion?

5:22:29>> Sure.

5:22:31>> I will happy to move the motion. Thank

5:22:33you.

5:22:33>> I'll second.

5:22:37>> Please vote.

5:22:44The vote is seven eyes, no nays. Motion

5:22:46carries.

5:22:55Our next item pulled was item number 13,

5:22:58pulled by Mayor Prom and Council Member

5:23:00Bis. Would either of you like a staff

5:23:02report?

5:23:04>> Yes, please.

5:23:05>> Yes, please.

5:23:10staff report will be provided by Brian

5:23:12Beler, our acting public utilities

5:23:14general manager.

5:23:18>> Okay.

5:23:27Good evening, mayor, members of city

5:23:29council. With me tonight is Andrew Win,

5:23:31our financial planning manager, and

5:23:32Heather Allen, our planning director. If

5:23:34there are any land use related questions

5:23:36on this item and city council approves

5:23:39electric and water rules that

5:23:41essentially govern electric and water

5:23:42service for our customers. These rules

5:23:44cover such diverse topics from how we

5:23:46meter and bill to how we accept deposits

5:23:49and how we determine how customers may

5:23:51interconnect with the utility. The item

5:23:53before you this evening is a proposed

5:23:55new rule that would address the

5:23:57financial risks posed by an emerging

5:24:00category of customers. large data

5:24:02centers. The rapid growth of AI

5:24:06streaming and online platforms have

5:24:09created immense electrical demand in

5:24:11various parts of the country.

5:24:13At the same time, many data centers are

5:24:16financed through newly formed entities

5:24:18that require sizable commitments from

5:24:20utilities to serve them. Yet, these

5:24:23entities lack an established financial

5:24:25track record and carry significant

5:24:27leverage and therefore risk of

5:24:28defaulting on their obligations. As a

5:24:31public utility, Anime Public Utilities

5:24:33has a requirement to serve any customer

5:24:36requesting service, regardless of the

5:24:38type of legal business they may engage

5:24:40in.

5:24:42If a customer of this size were to

5:24:44default, restructure, or exit Anaheim

5:24:47before we were able to recover the costs

5:24:49to serve them, those costs do not

5:24:51disappear. As a not-for-profit utility,

5:24:54those stranded costs would necessarily

5:24:57shift to our current customer base.

5:25:02The proposed rule mitigates these risks

5:25:04and is built around three core financial

5:25:07protections for our current customers.

5:25:09The first one is a build to serve. The

5:25:12customer would fund 100% of the

5:25:15infrastructure built to serve them paid

5:25:17upfront so current customers are never

5:25:20at risk of absorbing that cost. This

5:25:23could be circuitry or other

5:25:25infrastructure that may be required to

5:25:27power them. Second, a prepayment account

5:25:30or deposit funded by the customer

5:25:33covering 6 to 18 months of projected

5:25:36bills dependent upon their

5:25:37creditworthiness. This would protect APU

5:25:40against delayed or missed payments or

5:25:43what could be a sizable bill if they did

5:25:45exit the territory. The size of the

5:25:48deposit would be determined by their

5:25:49creditworthiness. And for context, we

5:25:53recently had a large customer go

5:25:55bankrupt in the canyon where we had to

5:25:57write off $1.5 million worth of their

5:26:01bills that were then borne by our

5:26:03current customers. Third, collateral

5:26:05security such as a bond or a letter of

5:26:08credit that would guard against stranded

5:26:10costs if the customer exits APU before

5:26:13we were able to recover these costs.

5:26:15This may recover the cost to acquire

5:26:17capacity for them or a purchase power

5:26:19agreement if they were of the size where

5:26:21we would need to procure additional

5:26:23power that we currently do not have.

5:26:27An independent third-party trustee would

5:26:29then administer both the prepayment

5:26:31account and the collateral ensuring

5:26:33consistent administration

5:26:36and confirming that Anime Public

5:26:38Utilities does not benefit financially

5:26:40from holding those customer funds. For

5:26:43clarity, the proposed rule does not

5:26:46increase any rates or fees. It only

5:26:48applies to new customers requesting

5:26:50large-scale electric service or to an

5:26:53existing customer requesting to

5:26:55materially expand their electric

5:26:57service.

5:26:59Three criteria together determine

5:27:01whether a customer falls under this

5:27:04proposed rule. First, they would need to

5:27:07have electric demand of 15 megawws or

5:27:09more, which is roughly enough to power

5:27:1221,000 homes. Second, they would have to

5:27:15have what's called a load factor of 80%.

5:27:19That means they are using that 15

5:27:21megawws 80% of every day. Most

5:27:24commercial customers do not even come

5:27:26close to this level of load factor. And

5:27:29third, they would require a new or

5:27:31materially larger power supply

5:27:33commitment from APU that would otherwise

5:27:36not be needed to make in order to make

5:27:39likewise capacity purchases or purchase

5:27:41power agreements. Taken together, these

5:27:44aren't the characteristics of a typical

5:27:46commercial customer, but those of a

5:27:48large data center that may pose risks to

5:27:50rateayers if left unmmitigated.

5:27:54In summary, this proposed rule would

5:27:56give customers a clear, predictable

5:27:58framework before they committed to

5:28:00service in Anaheim. It reflects the

5:28:02industry's leading safeguards tailored

5:28:05to Anaheim and allows APU to serve new

5:28:07customers while predict protecting

5:28:10existing customers from subsidizing

5:28:12these large data center costs. If

5:28:15approved tonight, this new rule would be

5:28:17effective on October 1st. This concludes

5:28:20my summary. I am happy to answer any

5:28:23questions you may have.

5:28:25>> Thank you. I'll turn that over to

5:28:27Council Member Bis.

5:28:30>> Thank you. Um, first off, I want to say

5:28:34thank you for bringing this forward. I

5:28:36think this definitely is a step to

5:28:38protect some of our uh rate payers if if

5:28:42something happens. Uh, you mentioned

5:28:45that this requires customers [snorts]

5:28:48above 15 megawatts. Correct. That is

5:28:51correct. Yes. So,

5:28:52>> I think that's part of a it's going to

5:28:54be a small subset of the community

5:28:56that's out there. Um, my first question

5:28:59that I have for you is

5:29:03I know that the uh the the federal

5:29:06government is looking at the rateayer

5:29:07protection act and I was just curious.

5:29:10I'm happy to have this come forward with

5:29:12us locally, but will there be any

5:29:13additional things that have to be done

5:29:15by the Anaheim utility if that u uh

5:29:19passes at the federal level?

5:29:21>> Sure. Uh the rate protection act for

5:29:23context has recently passed the house of

5:29:25representatives and is currently before

5:29:27the Senate. What it does do is it

5:29:29compels regulated utilities to adopt a

5:29:32series of protections for customers

5:29:34similar to these. Anime public utilities

5:29:36is not regulated per the definition of

5:29:39an act called perpa, the public

5:29:40utilities uh rateayer protection act.

5:29:44And we are regulated by the city

5:29:46council. However, what it does do is it

5:29:48allows this city council to make the

5:29:50determination within two years of its

5:29:52adoption whether or not they will adopt

5:29:54these protections. The protections in

5:29:56this rule are almost are very close to

5:29:59the protections mandated within the

5:30:01right payer protection act absent the

5:30:03collateral or the shity that we are

5:30:05requiring. That is not included in the

5:30:07right payair protection act. It mainly

5:30:09deals with the infrastructure costs on

5:30:11the front side to serve them if they

5:30:13needed additional circuitry or higher

5:30:15voltage circuitry in order to provide uh

5:30:18service to them. But yes, so we would th

5:30:20we would this would comply with all the

5:30:23rateayer protection act requirements.

5:30:25>> Perfect. Thank you. And then I have two

5:30:28last questions. So, I want to just make

5:30:29sure I got this kind of straight in my

5:30:31brain, but the way that I read this, if

5:30:33a new customer comes in using over the

5:30:3615 megawatts, the I I I look at this as

5:30:39kind of being three buckets. And let me

5:30:42just make sure I got this right. First

5:30:43bucket is you're requiring them to pay

5:30:45upfront for all the infrastructure

5:30:47needs. So, for example, if an additional

5:30:49circuit is needed or an additional um

5:30:53you know, transformer that's needed in

5:30:54the substation, they have to pay for

5:30:55100% of that. Is that correct?

5:30:57>> That is correct. Yes. And then the

5:30:58second part I see is we're asking them

5:31:00depending on their creditworthiness for

5:31:02a deposit.

5:31:04>> That is correct. 6 to 18 months

5:31:05depending on their creditworthiness.

5:31:07>> Okay. And then I guess the last part is

5:31:09is that

5:31:12I don't know I'm just take I'm I'm I'm

5:31:14picking words out of the air here, but

5:31:15if we were to sign say for example a

5:31:1710-year agreement

5:31:19for

5:31:21I don't know I I don't know what the

5:31:23capacity would be but it would be

5:31:24substantial. Um, we are asking them to

5:31:28basically either get some sort of like a

5:31:31an insurance policy on or a bank note

5:31:33for that. If they do go out of business,

5:31:36we would hold the bank responsible for

5:31:37the rest of that contract. That's a very

5:31:39good way to characterize it. Yes, it

5:31:40would be kind of an insurance policy.

5:31:42They could use a letter of credit. They

5:31:43could use a bond. They could even cash

5:31:45pay it, which would be held by a third

5:31:47party trustee, not held by Anaheim in

5:31:49order to protect against any obligation

5:31:51we uh in uh obligate ourselves to in

5:31:55order to serve them for a longer period

5:31:57of time.

5:31:57>> All right. Thank you. And then my last

5:31:59question is is what I I don't

5:32:00necessarily see the language in here,

5:32:02but I want to find out

5:32:05and I don't know that this would

5:32:06actually apply perhaps to the uh 15

5:32:10megawatt customer, but I'm going to ask

5:32:12it anyways. Is there any

5:32:15environmental deposit that's there? I

5:32:17know one of the the industries seem to

5:32:20be moving from instead of water cooled

5:32:22to, you know, some sort of a an air gap,

5:32:25be it that a florocarbon

5:32:27or, you know, something to that effect.

5:32:29And I do know that they are

5:32:33normally inert, but they can be

5:32:35flammable and they could have uh impact

5:32:38on the greenhouse gases that are out

5:32:40there. So, I'm wondering is there any

5:32:42additional uh requirements that are

5:32:44being set up to identify some of the

5:32:46environmental concerns?

5:32:48>> That would be outside of our uh

5:32:50jurisdiction. I would have to look to

5:32:52Heather and the planning department for

5:32:54guidance on that.

5:32:55>> Yes, certainly. So, the data center land

5:32:58use is one that requires a conditional

5:32:59use permit. So, because it is a

5:33:02discretionary application that would be

5:33:04coming forward and we would have the

5:33:06opportunity to do a complete

5:33:07environmental analysis under SQA. So SQL

5:33:10looks at greenhouse gas, SQL looks at

5:33:12energy, SQL looks at water noise, um all

5:33:16the the items that you typically hear

5:33:18associated with data centers. So I think

5:33:20this is a good companion rule to the

5:33:23land use process that would allow the

5:33:25city to review projects on a case- by

5:33:28case basis. um as a conditional use. Uh

5:33:31the planning commission or council on

5:33:33appeal has to make findings that the use

5:33:36is compatible with the site and

5:33:38surroundings and at part of that review

5:33:41again would be the environmental

5:33:43component where we would be able to

5:33:44analyze mitigate. So based on the system

5:33:47proposed we would look at any unique

5:33:49impacts. Uh water supply assessment

5:33:51would be something that we would look at

5:33:53as well.

5:33:54>> Thank you.

5:33:57go to Mayor Prom and then council member

5:33:59Rubikava.

5:34:01>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. I'm gonna ask

5:34:03your patience. I'm a little bit over um

5:34:05a little bit all over here, but I just

5:34:07wanted to one clar a clarification. So,

5:34:11the report says that customers pay 100%

5:34:14of the new infrastructure. Um but the

5:34:17rule say also says that they pay only

5:34:19their share of anything that might also

5:34:21benefit others. Can you just clarify for

5:34:25me which is correct and how we're

5:34:26defining shared benefit?

5:34:28>> They're both correct. For instance, if

5:34:29we had to put a new circuit in,

5:34:31sometimes we put in extra conduits if we

5:34:33have to tear up the street in order for

5:34:34additional expansion in the territory.

5:34:36So, they would only pay their share of

5:34:38the infrastructure that we put in. Uh, a

5:34:41good example tonight there was an item

5:34:42for a water man going out to the

5:34:44cemetery district. The cemetery

5:34:46district's only going to pay 70% of the

5:34:48added facility cost or the expansion

5:34:51cost that would incur because we

5:34:53oversized the pipeline in order to serve

5:34:55additional development that may occur

5:34:57out there. So we basically future proof.

5:34:59So both both things are correct. They

5:35:01pay their their costs, but if we do make

5:35:05a a bigger investment than they need,

5:35:08they only pay the share of the cost that

5:35:10is their responsibility.

5:35:11>> And that's only if we were going to do

5:35:13that anyway. Is that fair to say or?

5:35:17>> That's correct. Because if we're going

5:35:18to open the street, we would want to

5:35:19make it so that we had enough conduit in

5:35:21there to expand as uh you know, the

5:35:24future may require.

5:35:26>> Okay. Thank you. Just wanted to make

5:35:27sure we were clarifying that. Um in

5:35:30terms of um do we do you have like a

5:35:33ballpark of what a what a dollar amount

5:35:36for deposit would look like for let's

5:35:38say it's a 15 megawatt uh application

5:35:41that comes in tomorrow. like do we have

5:35:45any any idea of what that would cost?

5:35:47>> If they required a 12month deposit, uh

5:35:51it would be in the high seven figures.

5:35:54>> Seven figures. Okay. Um the other

5:35:57question that I had regarding this um so

5:36:00this basically gives the authority to

5:36:02the general manager to act unilaterally

5:36:04if an application like this were to come

5:36:06forward. Is that correct?

5:36:08>> That's correct. It gives the general

5:36:09manager broad authority of how to

5:36:11administer the rule because we don't

5:36:13know the nature or the tenor of the

5:36:15customer. If Amazon Web Services came

5:36:17in, they're a much different customer

5:36:19than, you know, um a customer that we've

5:36:22never heard of and never done business

5:36:24with. So, it gives us some flexibility

5:36:26with what the requirements would be um

5:36:29and would then allow the general manager

5:36:32to make those discretionary decisions. I

5:36:35think I I don't know if this is

5:36:37possible, but I just because we could be

5:36:40talking about large amounts of deposits

5:36:43and and and funds. Um whether that be a

5:36:46a report of some sort that you could

5:36:48give to the utilities board if we are in

5:36:49that situation or that you could uh

5:36:51bring to council uh just so that there's

5:36:54another set of eyes on what what comes

5:36:57before the general manager. Um I don't

5:37:00know if that's something that we might

5:37:01be able to to add on to this or take a

5:37:03look at. So all the deposits and the

5:37:05collateral security require a trustee

5:37:08agreement, a trust agreement with a

5:37:09thirdparty trustee. So we would have to

5:37:11bring a trust agreement anyway before

5:37:13the board and the council in order to

5:37:15approve that trust agreement. We don't

5:37:16have the ability just to enter

5:37:18agreements on behalf of the city without

5:37:19city council approval. So that would be

5:37:22developed uh in concert with city

5:37:23council and then all that information

5:37:25would be included. Yes,

5:37:26>> I appreciate that. U do can I ask have

5:37:29we had any large load inquiries into

5:37:31public utilities lately? I've heard that

5:37:34there have been some inquiries. I think

5:37:36Heather may have some more information

5:37:37on that, but I think there's been some

5:37:38facilities out in the Canyon area where

5:37:41some uh data center brokers are looking

5:37:44to possibly site here. I don't have the

5:37:47specific uh information though.

5:37:49>> Heather, do you have any info on that?

5:37:51>> Just the the one property has been

5:37:53circulating that I think has an existing

5:37:56um good electric infrastructure that's

5:37:58vacant. It's in the canyon. Um so we

5:38:01that that caused planning to kind of

5:38:04proactively um take the stance on the

5:38:06conditional use permit. Um but that's

5:38:08that's the one that we're aware of at

5:38:09this time.

5:38:10>> Okay. And then are we so I mean 15

5:38:12megawatts is the threshold for this

5:38:14rule. Are we tracking I mean if there

5:38:16are uh if there's a group of smaller uh

5:38:20groups that maybe one of them is 14.5

5:38:24but then there's another one that's also

5:38:2610 that uh cumulatively would be above

5:38:2915. But these rules don't apply to them.

5:38:31Is that something that we're we also

5:38:33took a look at?

5:38:33>> So this is on one site because it would

5:38:35be one set of circuits and you know two

5:38:38sets of circuits and two separate bills.

5:38:39But what this uh rule does allow for is

5:38:42if there's material expansion by a

5:38:43customer which then exceeds that 15

5:38:45megawatt. a potential customer couldn't

5:38:48game it, come in at 5 megawws, then at a

5:38:50later date add 10 or 12 in the dark at

5:38:53night without uh so that allows us then

5:38:57to uh assess this rule and the

5:38:59provisions in this rule on a customer

5:39:01that expands to the level.

5:39:02>> Okay, thank you. And then can you just

5:39:04explain to me, Brian, I believe the

5:39:06state passed uh regulations regarding

5:39:08these types of large load inquiries. Are

5:39:11you able to is this consistent with

5:39:13that? And can you explain if there's any

5:39:15differences? Sure, it's very consistent

5:39:16and the state's rules apply to CPU

5:39:19jurisdictional uh utilities like PG&,

5:39:22Southern California Edison, SDG& of

5:39:24which we are not. So those rules do not

5:39:26apply to us, but these are uh in

5:39:28alignment with those requirements.

5:39:31>> Okay. Thank you. Um and then just a few

5:39:34more questions and I appreciate your

5:39:36patience. Um, in terms of did you did I

5:39:39hear you say that we also compared what

5:39:41other uh potential public utilities have

5:39:43been doing? And if I heard that

5:39:45correctly, are you able to to share

5:39:48which ones?

5:39:48>> Sure. Imperial Irrigation District in

5:39:50the southeastern part of the state is a

5:39:52municipal utilities utility district has

5:39:54had a lot of inquiries for data centers.

5:39:57So, they've come out with similar

5:39:58requirements as this in order to protect

5:40:00their customers. um obviously their

5:40:03customers are concerned about stranded

5:40:04costs and who's going to bear the brunt

5:40:06of those stranded costs. It's a largely

5:40:08uh farming community, lower income

5:40:09community that couldn't really bear the

5:40:11brunt. Um so that is a local utility in

5:40:14California municipally owned that has

5:40:16addressed this. Uh there's other

5:40:18utilities across the country but they

5:40:21face far more uh significant risks of

5:40:24hyperscale data centers. We're talking

5:40:27100 megawatt, 200 megawatt, uh, dozens

5:40:30of acres data centers. That is a very

5:40:33low likelihood of a of a situation like

5:40:35that occurring here. So, in Indiana,

5:40:37Arizona, Texas, those states are really

5:40:40grappling with this to the point that

5:40:42the grid might strain with the amount of

5:40:44data centers that are moving in because

5:40:47we're built out and we don't really have

5:40:48the land space for something like that.

5:40:50I don't think there's really a high

5:40:51likelihood of anything like that

5:40:52happening here.

5:40:53>> Okay. Thank you. And then just I know

5:40:55we're talking about power um but are we

5:40:58also considering doing something for

5:40:59water or is that completely separate?

5:41:02>> Water is under development. However, the

5:41:04risk is it not nearly as high for water.

5:41:06Couple reasons. First of all, most data

5:41:08centers now are closed loop. They pull

5:41:09water once and then they chill it on

5:41:11site so that they aren't a drain on the

5:41:13water system. They I think the these um

5:41:17these companies have learned their

5:41:18lesson from the water situation. So it

5:41:20allows for one big pole and they're

5:41:22done. Second, secondly, whenever

5:41:24developer comes, we have to do a water

5:41:26assessment. Do we have the water in the

5:41:27system to allow for this kind of

5:41:29development? It doesn't matter the

5:41:31development. So, they all have to do u

5:41:33an evaluation whether or not we can

5:41:35support that development with the amount

5:41:37of water they require. So, uh there's

5:41:39not the financial risk to our customer

5:41:41with water. There's more of a resource

5:41:43and you know, tragedy the commons, if

5:41:45you will, uh problem. And so, you know,

5:41:47we're looking at that and how we can

5:41:49best protect our aquafer um from

5:41:52somebody coming in and building one big

5:41:54straw and drawing all the water out.

5:41:56>> Got it. Thank you. And then Heather, can

5:41:57I just ask you in terms of zoning, from

5:41:59what I just heard Brian say is that the

5:42:01likelihood of this giant massive uh uh

5:42:04uh inquiry coming in is unlikely just

5:42:06given where we are in terms of our

5:42:08footprint in the city of available

5:42:10space. Um, what I'm hearing you say is

5:42:14that most of these are if they were to

5:42:16come forward, it would likely be in the

5:42:18canyon area, not necessarily in

5:42:20extending neighborhoods or houses or

5:42:22things like that.

5:42:23>> So, they they potentially could be in

5:42:25any industrial zone um with the

5:42:27conditional use permit. Um, the reality

5:42:30is bigger properties without residential

5:42:32nearby or in the canyon. Um, but the

5:42:35having the conditional use permit would

5:42:37allow us on a case- by case basis to

5:42:39look at the suitability of the site. So,

5:42:41we've heard noise, right, is is one of

5:42:44the key issues that when you have

5:42:46residential in proximity, um, it's it's

5:42:49an impact of the the use. So, that would

5:42:51be something that we would be able to

5:42:52study and vet through the conditional

5:42:55use permit process.

5:42:56>> Thank you. I I I will end by saying that

5:43:00I appreciate staff uh being proactive in

5:43:02this uh before we are um just being

5:43:05proactive and not having to make

5:43:07decisions uh while potentially

5:43:10considering something else. Um, I would

5:43:12just say, Heather, I mean, in terms of

5:43:14as we're looking at regular code

5:43:15updates, uh, something to keep in the

5:43:17back of our minds, if there's something

5:43:19that's similar that we can do

5:43:20proactively, um, I understand that the

5:43:23the CUP would then make it a a a process

5:43:26that would go to the planning commission

5:43:28council. So, there'd be a lot of steps

5:43:30before even getting to a place where

5:43:32something is approved or not. Uh but as

5:43:34we're looking, you know, our annual

5:43:35review of codes and things like that

5:43:37that if we could be proactive on that

5:43:39site as well, so that we are uh making

5:43:42sure that we're protecting our residents

5:43:43and and and rateayers uh just like we're

5:43:46doing here, I think would be a good

5:43:47idea.

5:43:48>> Thank you.

5:43:51>> Thank you, Council Member Curts.

5:43:56>> Thank you. Um I just wanted to also say

5:43:58thank you for taking a look at the issue

5:44:02proactively and not waiting for the

5:44:04application and having to scramble. So I

5:44:07thank you for for those efforts. Um uh

5:44:12recently the three of us back in

5:44:13Washington DC with uh ACCO

5:44:18meeting with some members and some

5:44:21departments. This came up quite often

5:44:25and it it came up with cities, counties

5:44:29trying struggling after those data

5:44:31centers went in and uh so it's nice to

5:44:35see that you're very proactive um and

5:44:38taking care of our customers. Thank you.

5:44:42>> Would you like to move the item?

5:44:47>> I'll move the item.

5:44:48>> Do we have a We have a second. Thank

5:44:50you. Please vote.

5:44:52A resolution city council of the city of

5:44:54Anaheim adopting new rule number 27 of

5:44:56the electric rate rates rules and

5:44:58regulations was do not does not increase

5:45:00rates or fees are making determinations

5:45:02under the California Environmental

5:45:03Quality Act.

5:45:10[clears throat]

5:45:15>> So we are going to move

5:45:16>> I'm sorry Mayor Prom. Oh,

5:45:22sorry.

5:45:31>> The vote is seven eyes, no nays. Motion

5:45:33carries.

5:45:34>> Thank you. Uh we're going to move on to

5:45:37item 15, a presentation and discussion

5:45:39regarding potential changes to the

5:45:41historic preservation policies and

5:45:44guidelines. Mr. Interim City Manager, do

5:45:47we have a staff report?

5:45:49Yes, we do. Uh Heather Allen, our

5:45:51planning director, will lead this item.

5:46:05We're good. Thank you. Good evening

5:46:07again. So, I'm joined this evening by

5:46:09Amanda Laugher, senior planner, and Nick

5:46:11Taylor, uh, principal planner, who are

5:46:15kind of internal subject matter experts

5:46:17on the city's historic preservation

5:46:19program. Um, as was mentioned by Megan

5:46:22Shyo in public comment, um, this has

5:46:24been about a year-long effort working

5:46:26together with the Historic Preservation

5:46:29Committee following, um, last August a

5:46:32request from council member Rubukava to

5:46:34ultimately agendaize and bring forward a

5:46:37discussion of historic preservation

5:46:39policy. So, over the last year, we've

5:46:41worked with HPC to understand their

5:46:43concerns and reviewed with them existing

5:46:46regulations and planning tools. We've

5:46:48also undertaken some preliminary work to

5:46:50identify in concept potential options to

5:46:54address the topics raised by HPC. So in

5:46:57this presentation, we'll discuss the

5:46:58concerns, provide a strategy framework

5:47:01for potential historic preservation

5:47:03regulation for city council

5:47:05consideration.

5:47:07So I'd like to start with a bit of

5:47:08background. So, uh, Anaheim has four

5:47:11historic districts predominantly

5:47:13located, uh, in the downtown between La

5:47:16Palma Avenue, South Street, and North

5:47:18South, West and East Streets. Anaheim

5:47:21also has individually eligible historic

5:47:24properties outside of the historic

5:47:25districts called historically

5:47:27significant structures.

5:47:30Existing tools and regulations are

5:47:32grounded in the historic preservation

5:47:34goals of the citywide historic

5:47:36preservation plan which focused on

5:47:39increased awareness importantly not

5:47:41regulation of historic resources as the

5:47:44best protection from inappropriate

5:47:46alteration or demolition. The plan

5:47:49includes design guidelines from the US

5:47:51Secretary of the Interior standards for

5:47:53rehabilitation in addition to principles

5:47:56to serve as a guide to property owners.

5:47:58The Anaheim colony design guidelines

5:48:00provide more detailed design principles

5:48:02and guidelines for the colony and

5:48:05adjacent areas including the five points

5:48:07historic district. The city has also

5:48:10developed architectural style guides by

5:48:12common architectural style. And most

5:48:15recently, as part of the adoption of our

5:48:16citywide objective design standards in

5:48:182025, the city for the first time

5:48:21codified standards applicable to new

5:48:23multifamily or mixeduse construction

5:48:26within 20 ft of a historic resource or

5:48:28within a historic d uh district to

5:48:31address compatibility through design

5:48:33features, materials, setback, ground

5:48:35floor, and scale requirements.

5:48:39The concerns raised by the HPC fall into

5:48:41four categories, which we'll talk in

5:48:43more detail about the next slides, but

5:48:46generally these are the compatibility of

5:48:48new construction and alterations within

5:48:50historic districts, the level of

5:48:52protection afforded to historic

5:48:54resources from demolition, the need for

5:48:57clear and predictable standards for

5:48:58owners of historic properties, and the

5:49:01composition and authority of a body to

5:49:03provide oversight for historic

5:49:04preservation matters.

5:49:07The HPC identified a concern that change

5:49:10within districts uh needs to respect the

5:49:13existing historic character and

5:49:15indicated that owners are looking for

5:49:17clear codified standards related to

5:49:19historic properties. While the recently

5:49:21adoptive objective design standards

5:49:24regulate new construction to protect its

5:49:26historic neighbors, um, as I mentioned,

5:49:29there are multiple documents which

5:49:30provide recommendations, not

5:49:32requirements for rehabilitation or

5:49:35additions to existing structures.

5:49:37Specifically in the municipal code, it

5:49:40does not include any standards or

5:49:42regulations specific to historic

5:49:44properties either within a district or

5:49:47individually outside of a district.

5:49:50Additionally, unless a historic resource

5:49:52is under a Mills Act contract or is

5:49:55included in a property subject to

5:49:56development uh with a discretionary

5:49:58application, the owner in owner can

5:50:00demolish it with a building permit. The

5:50:03citywide historic preservation plan does

5:50:05identify a good faith effort to file a

5:50:0860-day notice um which goes also on the

5:50:11property and to anyone uh who may have

5:50:14expressed interest essentially to uh

5:50:17advise anyone to claim the building uh

5:50:20for relocation or preservation. The

5:50:22municipal code does not include

5:50:24standards specific to historic property

5:50:26demolition and if no one claims a

5:50:28building in the 60-day period, it may be

5:50:29demolished.

5:50:31Lastly, there is no formal city council

5:50:33authorized body with review authority

5:50:36over historic preservation matters

5:50:38related to private property development.

5:50:40So, although the Cultural and Heritage

5:50:42Commission duties include advising on

5:50:44matters concerning historic

5:50:45preservation, their focus relates more

5:50:47to the city's historical assets and

5:50:49enhancing the cultural and historic

5:50:52environment of the city. Although the

5:50:54HPC informally advises and confers with

5:50:56staff today, it has no codified

5:50:58responsibilities and no discretionary

5:51:01review authority over projects affecting

5:51:03historic resources.

5:51:06So based on the concerns expressed by

5:51:07the HPC and staff's inventory of

5:51:10existing and potential planning tools,

5:51:12we've identified strategies for low,

5:51:15medium, or high level of additional

5:51:17regulation and included potential

5:51:19actions at each level. Sample potential

5:51:22actions at the low level include

5:51:24synthesizing and updating all the

5:51:25guidelines, principles, and guides, of

5:51:28which there are at least three that

5:51:30would remain guidelines, but they would

5:51:33be combined more to be more easily

5:51:35navigated by property owners and could

5:51:37provide additional clarity on

5:51:39applicability to the various types of

5:51:41historic resources.

5:51:43At the medium level, these same

5:51:45recommendations could be turned into

5:51:47regulations and codified in the

5:51:49municipal code. Additionally, the

5:51:51historic adjacency standards uh recently

5:51:54adopted could be expanded to all project

5:51:56types and not limited to mixed use or

5:51:58multifamily.

5:52:00At the high level of additional

5:52:01regulation, we've identified the

5:52:03creation of additional discretionary

5:52:05processes for development review,

5:52:07including the formation of a city

5:52:09council authorized historic preservation

5:52:11commission and a codified discretionary

5:52:13process for demolition. So importantly,

5:52:16staff is seeking direction from city

5:52:17council at this time on the level of any

5:52:20additional regulation desired by this

5:52:22council. We are seeking direction

5:52:24because importantly spending additional

5:52:26resource uh understanding that any

5:52:28additional regulation could uh uh

5:52:31include a substantial policy shift

5:52:33towards more proactive preservation

5:52:36as you're considering potential

5:52:38regulation strategies. We wanted to

5:52:40provide some additional considerations.

5:52:42So other than discussions which with the

5:52:44HPC staff has had no other public

5:52:46outreach on the topic. So engaging with

5:52:48property owners would be an integral

5:52:50part of future efforts. There is also

5:52:52the potential for increased cost and

5:52:54reduced flexibility as we increase

5:52:57regulation.

5:52:58State law will also impact our ability

5:53:00to require additional discretionary

5:53:02review for certain housing development

5:53:04projects. However, standards do rather

5:53:07than guidelines uh provide clear

5:53:09expectations and predictable results and

5:53:11are more defensible as a regulatory

5:53:13tool. uh staff has not explored any

5:53:15potential benefits of heritage tourism

5:53:18which could also um be a benefit with

5:53:21intact neighborhoods and districts.

5:53:24So following the city council discussion

5:53:26uh we would ask for your direction on

5:53:28the regulatory strategy specifically

5:53:30whether to pursue low, medium or high

5:53:32level of additional regulation or to

5:53:35maintain the existing practices with no

5:53:37change. This discussion will allow staff

5:53:39to solicit solicit additional expertise

5:53:42from our subject matter on call historic

5:53:44preservation consultants to identify if

5:53:46there are also other actions we should

5:53:48identify but importantly consistent with

5:53:51council direction um with low uh medium

5:53:54or high. We would also uh funding of the

5:53:57scope of work would also be an important

5:53:59consideration and assuming the budget

5:54:01would allow we would develop a work plan

5:54:04which would include stakeholder

5:54:05participation on whatever the resulting

5:54:08amendments and updates uh were that came

5:54:10forward. So this concludes my

5:54:12presentation and we're happy to answer

5:54:13any questions that you have.

5:54:15>> Thank you Director Allen. Um I'm going

5:54:17to turn it over to the council member

5:54:18that brought this forward, council

5:54:20member Rubikava.

5:54:21>> Thank you. Thank you, Heather, and your

5:54:23team for um really leaning into this. I

5:54:25know it's really important to our to me.

5:54:27I live in a historic home in the colony,

5:54:29but also to our preservation committee.

5:54:31So, I I guess I'm going to um I I

5:54:34definitely want to hear feedback from my

5:54:36colleagues because I think uh especially

5:54:38council member Meeks probably has some

5:54:41um just background uh from the public

5:54:43works side, but also what was the

5:54:45recommendation from the preservation

5:54:48committee because more importantly, they

5:54:49are the group that is not a designated

5:54:51Brown Act committee, but they are really

5:54:54involved in our community and ensuring

5:54:56that we are preserving our history. So

5:54:59I'm more um I' I'd like to know a little

5:55:01bit about what their recommendation was.

5:55:03>> Certainly. So they are um we had

5:55:05presented all of these items um without

5:55:10the low, medium, high and they were

5:55:12interested in all of exploring all of

5:55:14them as as tools that could address

5:55:16their problems um and issues that they

5:55:18have raised. So I think at at the HPC

5:55:21level they're interested in exploring

5:55:23all further. We felt that it was

5:55:25important to kind of recognize the scale

5:55:28of what each would add. Um, and then

5:55:30also prioritize um what that could look

5:55:34like systematically based on the level

5:55:36of regulation the council was

5:55:37comfortable with and then of course the

5:55:39cost associated with that.

5:55:40>> So if council voted to go ahead and give

5:55:42you direction to explore all three

5:55:44options, you would come back to let us

5:55:46know what level of impact that would

5:55:48have on the community.

5:55:49>> Correct. So if we if you wanted to look

5:55:51at all three, we would we have three on

5:55:53call firms um on our bench for historic

5:55:56preservation. We would go out to them

5:55:58kind of with this charge of what does

5:56:00that work plan look like and what would

5:56:02the deliverables be? Are there any other

5:56:05strategies um that they would provide um

5:56:09scope, cost, and what that would look

5:56:11like.

5:56:12>> And I would ask my council colleagues to

5:56:14um take the recommendation of the

5:56:16preservation committee. They are a very

5:56:17committed group. But I know council

5:56:18member Moss is familiar with the work

5:56:20that they do and I know that they

5:56:21reached out to every council member to

5:56:23brief them on this topic and the

5:56:25importance of it. Oh, they Okay, I'll

5:56:26make sure that they they mentioned that

5:56:28they did. Um, so I but I would ask that

5:56:31we do allow staff to explore all three

5:56:34options and come back with their

5:56:35recommendation with more detail. The

5:56:38other thing I wanted to add is I know

5:56:39that they've mentioned with all of the

5:56:41construction that's been going around on

5:56:43the infrastructure front um sidewalks

5:56:45that some of the sidewalks are no longer

5:56:48matching and they do I run our sidewalks

5:56:50a lot and they some of them are

5:56:52horizontal, some are vertical and it

5:56:54just looks um like not Anaheim. It just

5:56:57looks like we kind of threw it together

5:56:58and didn't give our contractors uh more

5:57:01direction on what we need. So even in

5:57:03for example, I'll use Pearson Park as an

5:57:05example. all of the the sidewalk lines

5:57:08are different. Um, and that is a problem

5:57:10because it doesn't look great. I know in

5:57:13the grand scheme of things that's a

5:57:14first world problem, but it really is

5:57:16something that impacts that community.

5:57:18Parson Park's our oldest park in the

5:57:20city, and I think it would be important

5:57:22for us to preserve its uh character.

5:57:26Council member Meeks,

5:57:31>> I think um I would be more interested in

5:57:34pursuing or looking more into the medium

5:57:37regulation

5:57:38uh on the high regulation. I am

5:57:41concerned with um the discretionary or

5:57:44people purchase properties or plan to

5:57:47approve and and they're subject to

5:57:51a discretionary process with people that

5:57:54may have different interests than or

5:57:57goals than they have with their own

5:57:58property. And and I would like to

5:58:01provide our homeowners with more clarity

5:58:03when they're either living in a property

5:58:05or looking to buy a property. And you

5:58:08know, I can see protecting some of these

5:58:10historic assets that we have in our city

5:58:13um a little more clearly with

5:58:16guidelines and and in the municipal

5:58:18code. But I I would like to put that in

5:58:21regulation instead of developing a

5:58:25discretionary process. So that that

5:58:28would be my direction um that I would

5:58:31like to pursue. Thank you, Council

5:58:33Member

5:58:33>> Rubaka. I

5:58:36>> have to press the button. Uh I I would I

5:58:38agree with you on I don't like to have

5:58:40the um discretion from individuals who

5:58:42may have their own perspective, but I

5:58:44think if you would at least um

5:58:48give us the opportunity to explore what

5:58:50that would look like and we might be

5:58:51able to pick and choose from some of the

5:58:53recommendations that come from the high

5:58:55regulation and apply it to whatever our

5:58:58policy is in general. But if we just do

5:59:00an exploration phase, but not

5:59:01necessarily adopt any of them now, um

5:59:04that's what I would request that you at

5:59:06least oblige me the opportunity to let

5:59:08our preservation committee um have, you

5:59:11know, that feedback because they they do

5:59:12work really hard. I do see the value of

5:59:15what they're doing and it has really

5:59:17continue to beautify our neighborhoods.

5:59:19Um but we can definitely make it more of

5:59:22a moderate uh adoption by the time it

5:59:26occurs. I mean the passion of of the

5:59:28people that live in those community and

5:59:29protect those has turned those

5:59:31neighborhoods around over the last

5:59:33decades. So I appreciate that. Um I

5:59:37would what would the cost difference be

5:59:40>> and I don't want to you know spend a lot

5:59:42of money on something that

5:59:44the majority of the council probably

5:59:46doesn't want to pursue or may not want

5:59:48to pursue. Certainly. I I think

5:59:50depending on on where we go this

5:59:51evening, um before we would start

5:59:54anything, we could certainly kind of

5:59:55bring back what the consultants have

5:59:58suggested as the scope and cost and

6:00:01council can then decide. That

6:00:03>> be okay.

6:00:03>> Yeah, that's perfect. That's kind of

6:00:05that's exactly what I'd like to see

6:00:06first is what the scope would be cost

6:00:08and and then also get a recommendation

6:00:10from well I mean I they're probably

6:00:12going to say high regulation but just

6:00:14also get some feedback from the planning

6:00:16or from the historic preservation

6:00:18committee.

6:00:20>> Thank you. Council member Moss.

6:00:23>> Thank you. Yes, I reached out to the

6:00:24historic preservation committee and um

6:00:27appreciate the work they do. I am most

6:00:29inclined to go with the medium

6:00:31regulation, but will oblige to explore

6:00:34all three. Um, I do know we have a

6:00:36really successful mills act program, one

6:00:39of the most successful in the state, and

6:00:41I'm really proud of that. This is

6:00:43personal for me. My great-grandfather

6:00:45was a um a builder at the turn of the

6:00:48century, and they we have four family

6:00:49homes in downtown. So, um I hope we can

6:00:53protect those, and there's not a day

6:00:54when those are at risk for being torn

6:00:56down. So, I do support this. Thank you.

6:00:58Thank you, Council Member Bis.

6:01:02>> Thank you.

6:01:04I guess the first question that I'll ask

6:01:05is, Heather, have

6:01:08has the city gone out to the community

6:01:11inside the historic district and

6:01:13[snorts]

6:01:14queried everybody to see what they are

6:01:16interested in?

6:01:18>> No. As as I mentioned in my uh

6:01:20additional considerations, um the the

6:01:22kind of the conduit for staff at this

6:01:24point has been with HPC. So, that would

6:01:26be an important conversation because we

6:01:28don't know what the rest of the owners

6:01:31um in the districts um are interested

6:01:33in.

6:01:34>> My second question is is the committee

6:01:36that we're referencing here, I I don't

6:01:39see that as one of our uh commissions,

6:01:42who makes up that committee?

6:01:46>> So, it is a uh committee of volunteers

6:01:49as as was mentioned in public comment.

6:01:51It is um not you're correct. It is not a

6:01:54city authorized committee. It's the um

6:01:58offshoot of a committee that used to

6:02:01exist um back when we had re had

6:02:04redevelopment and now it's a interested

6:02:06group of of colony residents and and

6:02:09folks who support uh historic

6:02:10preservation for the city that that form

6:02:13um that committee but it's it's not a

6:02:15city um recognized body in our our

6:02:19charter or uh municipal code.

6:02:22So this next question might be helpful

6:02:24for me to understand. Um what are the

6:02:27problems that we're trying to solve

6:02:29here?

6:02:34>> Certainly. So the the issues that were

6:02:36raised by the the HPC were um you know

6:02:39in historic districts

6:02:42we do not have specific regulations on

6:02:45the historic properties. Certainly

6:02:47properties that have a Millsapac

6:02:48contract have a little bit more

6:02:51direction and protection. Um, but if you

6:02:53do not have if you've not opted into a

6:02:56Millsac contract, um, if you are a

6:02:59contributing structure, if you're even a

6:03:02non-contributing structure in the in the

6:03:04district, we don't have specific

6:03:06regulations telling you what you can or

6:03:08cannot do to your property. So the risk

6:03:10um would be that there are unprotected

6:03:13structures that get altered um or

6:03:16demolished. So that would really be

6:03:18points uh one, two, and three um on the

6:03:21slide. And then the fourth is um if a uh

6:03:25oversight body was desired um the the

6:03:28city does not have an official chartered

6:03:31uh recognized oversight body to render

6:03:35decisions on historic preservation for

6:03:36private development.

6:03:39So, as an example then, let's say right

6:03:41now there's a house in the historic

6:03:43district that wanted to and they're not

6:03:46part of the Mills Act. If they wanted to

6:03:49demo their house and start over, they

6:03:51could do that today. But we're is it I

6:03:55think maybe what I got from some of the

6:03:56regulations, you're saying, well, we

6:03:58would want to restrict the rights for

6:04:00somebody to do that.

6:04:02>> So, currently today, they could demolish

6:04:04in 61 days with a building permit. So

6:04:06they would have to give notice. Um but

6:04:08there is no if nobody wanted the house

6:04:11um there is no codified protection. So

6:04:14the issue raised by the HPC is just that

6:04:16that that we have guidelines that say

6:04:20gosh it would be nice if um and maybe

6:04:24keep your house. Maybe use wood windows.

6:04:27Here's some things that we can help you

6:04:29do that are more efficient. So think

6:04:32about not demolishing. Um but we don't

6:04:34have any regulatory standards to clearly

6:04:39communicate the city's wishes if that is

6:04:42your policy.

6:04:44So then let me ask what's the difference

6:04:46between what we're doing now and I think

6:04:48it was the low what did we say the low

6:04:52regulation.

6:04:55>> So what we are doing now the difference

6:04:58between the two would essentially take

6:05:01three documents they would still be

6:05:04guidelines but we would make them easier

6:05:06to use and put them in one document. So

6:05:10right now there's three different places

6:05:13that Amanda looks when somebody calls

6:05:15and says what can I do with my property

6:05:17and we send them to three different

6:05:19documents. What low regulation is

6:05:21proposing is updating making it a little

6:05:24bit more user friendly but at the end of

6:05:26the day they would still be

6:05:27recommendations and guidelines.

6:05:30>> All right. Well, I'll say this

6:05:33with not knowing what the uh the

6:05:35community is looking for. I would I

6:05:38guess recommend we stay with what we

6:05:40have or low regulation.

6:05:46>> Kalva,

6:05:48>> uh I just wanted to also mention I know

6:05:49that the I like I mentioned before the

6:05:52our preservation group is not a uh mil a

6:05:55brown act committee. However, it is of

6:05:58it is a quasi committee and and our um

6:06:01our staff supports that um preservation

6:06:05group and I will have to say they do

6:06:07represent a lot of the families that

6:06:09live in the colony in terms of

6:06:12preservation similarly to the way that

6:06:14our commissioners or we might represent

6:06:16the 350,000 people that we serve in our

6:06:19city. So, um it is a pretty fairly large

6:06:22group of people. is it? I think it's

6:06:24like 20 homeowners and um local business

6:06:28owners and realators. So, they are

6:06:30pretty well connected in the community.

6:06:32If you ever wanted to take some time to

6:06:35meet with them, they're a pretty

6:06:36influential group who just really has

6:06:38the best interest of our historic

6:06:40district in mind. And they also um I

6:06:43believe they kind of take took this as a

6:06:46compromise because what they originally

6:06:47came to us for was a specific plan uh

6:06:50for our historic district and then

6:06:53settled on something like this that

6:06:55would just provide more protections

6:06:57around preserving our community. So I I

6:07:00support this item. I support the

6:07:02residents who are um trying to preserve

6:07:04our history. And historically Anaheim

6:07:07has not always done that. As you see,

6:07:08Lincoln Avenue was completely

6:07:12disrupted is what I'll call it. But, um,

6:07:15it did lose a lot of its historic value

6:07:17and I think this is what this group is

6:07:18really trying to do. So, so thank you

6:07:21for those who will support at least

6:07:22exploring. I'm not I'm not asking to

6:07:24vote on an item tonight, but at least or

6:07:26I'm asking to vote on an item, but at

6:07:27least just to give staff direction to

6:07:29explore, not necessarily make a

6:07:31decision, but bring us more information.

6:07:34>> Thank you, Council Member Curts.

6:07:39Thank you. I was going to make a comment

6:07:40about the outreach to the community,

6:07:43making sure that every all the residents

6:07:46are aware of what discussions are taking

6:07:49place. Um, I think before

6:07:57I would vote to support it, and I'm not

6:07:59saying I disagreed, but I would like to

6:08:01know kind of a cost

6:08:04uh of, you know, what will it what will

6:08:06it cost us to do all of this? um

6:08:11and your thoughts that there would be of

6:08:14because of the dynamics of the three act

6:08:18possible actions three different costs

6:08:21uh and I don't mean to make a decision

6:08:23strictly based on the cost but for this

6:08:27much money we're going to get this much

6:08:29done for this much money we can possibly

6:08:32get this done and for a little bit more

6:08:34money we can even talk about uh

6:08:37establishing a discretionary ary process

6:08:39for demolition and something to that

6:08:41effect. So that we are uh also basing

6:08:45what we're going to do uh knowing how

6:08:49much it's going to cost us to get there.

6:08:54>> Thank you. Um I want to thank Council

6:08:56Ruva for bringing this forward. I think

6:08:59having a historic district in the middle

6:09:01of our city makes us really special. Um,

6:09:04you know, I think Orange has done a

6:09:06better job of preserving uh their

6:09:08history than we have at times, and I

6:09:10echo your sentiment when redevelopment

6:09:13was used to d to basically tear down our

6:09:16original downtown. There's still some

6:09:18hurt feelings around that. So, I would

6:09:20like to explore this and I would like to

6:09:23um make sure that the historic

6:09:25preservation commission knows how much

6:09:27um their time and energy is valued. Is

6:09:31this something that since we have a

6:09:33district three meeting coming up, we

6:09:35could partner with them as a way to get

6:09:38some outreach and get some opinions of

6:09:40the community at at large?

6:09:45We could certainly do it at at this

6:09:46meeting, although I might suggest to as

6:09:49as we I would I would hate to

6:09:53build expectations for what we may

6:09:55ultimately decide we can't do right

6:09:57away. Um, so I might suggest certainly

6:09:59the district meeting is um, historic

6:10:03preservation is something that we

6:10:04commonly discuss there as well. Um, so I

6:10:06might suggest we go out to the

6:10:08consultants, get the scopes, get the

6:10:10pricing, come back to council, decide

6:10:13what you're comfortable with developing

6:10:15further, and as a key point of that

6:10:18outreach, we could go to the next

6:10:21district 3 meeting um, based on that

6:10:23timing. I think that would probably be

6:10:24more valuable so we're not um setting

6:10:27expectations inappropriately.

6:10:29>> Okay, thank you. That makes sense. Uh

6:10:31Council Member Rubikala.

6:10:32>> Yeah, and I was going to just Council

6:10:34Member Curts, that is the direction

6:10:36we're asking is for to get pricing on

6:10:38these items. And I do um think that we

6:10:41could probably hold a separate meeting

6:10:42for the communication with um our

6:10:45community. The one benefit is that we do

6:10:48have a very active um colony group with

6:10:50a 400 plus email. So pretty much

6:10:53everybody who is um living in the colony

6:10:56and would be impacted by this uh we do

6:10:58have their email address so we can

6:11:00communicate it. Uh and then I know that

6:11:02the preservation uh group will also be

6:11:04doing outreach. So I I absolutely think

6:11:07that it would be a benefit to host a

6:11:09community meeting specifically to

6:11:10explain the impact before council is um

6:11:14asked to take any action.

6:11:19>> With no other council comments, is there

6:11:21a motion?

6:11:23I'll make a motion.

6:11:26>> I'll We have a motion and a second.

6:11:28Please vote.

6:11:30>> Oh, are you looking for clarification?

6:11:31So, I will make a motion to ask staff to

6:11:34go back and get um

6:11:37>> pricing on the two or three, whatever.

6:11:40>> So, I'll all three. I guess you might as

6:11:42well if you're we will come

6:11:44>> probably get two for one.

6:11:45>> Yes. We'll we'll work with our on call

6:11:47consultants, get pricing for the low,

6:11:48medium, high, come back to council for

6:11:50further direction before moving forward.

6:11:52>> Can I ask

6:11:53>> We have a motion and a second. I think

6:11:54we have a point of clarification.

6:11:56Council member Bis,

6:11:57>> please. I just want to make sure a yes

6:11:58vote to this will also include you're

6:12:01going to go out to the community and see

6:12:02what they uh what they're looking for.

6:12:04>> Not yet.

6:12:05>> Not at this stage. So, we would just

6:12:06essentially scope and price it. And then

6:12:09once we kind of know what we're looking

6:12:11at, kind of gauge council's interest,

6:12:14I think then then we would have a a more

6:12:18appropriate framework for a discussion

6:12:20with the community.

6:12:23>> Thank you. Please vote.

6:12:33>> The vote is seven eyes, no nays. Motion

6:12:35carries.

6:12:39>> Next is a report on close session. Mr.

6:12:42City Attorney, do you have anything to

6:12:43report?

6:12:46>> Uh, no, mayor. No reportable action.

6:12:48>> And we have no uh leftover public

6:12:50comment. Um, so now is the time for

6:12:53future agenda requests by council

6:12:55members. Council member Ruba,

6:12:58>> I would just like to request a

6:12:59proclamation for Cal State Fullerton's

6:13:02uh, National Gear Up Week.

6:13:08Thank you, Council Member Compost Curts.

6:13:12>> Thank you,

6:13:14>> Mr. City Attorney. How do we go about

6:13:16setting up um a special meeting?

6:13:19>> Um the Brown Act provides two ways.

6:13:21Either the um uh presiding officer, so

6:13:24the mayor or a majority of the members

6:13:26of the legislative

6:13:27body. So, it it's uh it's been um

6:13:32suggested that because the Keep Brown

6:13:34Act contemplates that a majority of the

6:13:36council can call a special meeting that

6:13:38it's it's sort of a an exception to your

6:13:42being able to uh outside of a notice

6:13:44meeting schedule a special meeting. Uh

6:13:47can't talk about substance, but as far

6:13:49as dates, times, availability, um that's

6:13:51something that's allowed. Um, I think

6:13:54the best practice is for the city clerk

6:13:56to contact you all and you can use her

6:13:58as the kind of conduit for the um

6:14:02consensus that a special meeting shall

6:14:03occur. Obviously, if you have an

6:14:05objection to it, you wouldn't provide

6:14:06dates for every availability. Uh, and

6:14:08then uh as long as there's a majority of

6:14:10council members who uh agreed to a

6:14:12special meeting time, date and they're

6:14:14available, then um that can be arranged.

6:14:17>> Thank you.

6:14:21>> Okay. So, um, with no other business

6:14:24before the council, I would like to

6:14:25adjourn this meeting in the memory of

6:14:27Danny Clayville. And we will be

6:14:30adjourned to our special meeting

6:14:32scheduled for tomorrow, September

6:14:35September 30th at 1 p.m. Thank you.