2026-10-28 - Planning Commission Meeting

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00:57hearing process.

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01:27An administrator

01:28report by staff.

01:31Public comment

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01:34from the previous hearing.

01:38Continuances from

01:39items that were

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01:43Withdrawals from items that have

01:44been withdrawn

01:45from many further

01:48consideration.

01:50And then again, we have

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01:52not likely to require

01:53a presentation or discussion.

01:55All items on the consent

01:55agenda may be, be voted

01:57all together at one.

01:57Any commissioner

01:58may move any item.

02:00From the

02:00consent agenda to the regular.

02:08Agenda. And then the regular

02:11includes a presentation and

02:11recommendation

02:11by the staff, a presentation

02:15by the applicant.

02:15And public comments.

02:15Comments, the applicant will

02:15then have

02:16an opportunity to respond

02:18to the public comments.

02:22Comments, the planning

02:22commission

02:22will do deliberate on the case

02:25and the CA and cast their votes.

02:26Votes the non-action items

02:26are for discussion only items.

02:29No vote will be cast

02:29by the planning commission.

02:41Do we have the

02:44We have the written comments

02:44cards, which is a yellow

02:46card here.

02:50If anybody wants to

02:50submit one of those right

02:50now. And then the request

02:51to speak cards

02:51are the blue item cards here.

02:55So if do we have any

02:55more outstanding we're here.

02:59Thank you.

02:59Okay. And

02:59they're an order. Okay.

03:06Thank you. Mm-hmm .

03:23Okay. So

03:25Mr. Curtis, should I.

03:27Set out on these

03:27requests to speak cards now.

03:36Call meeting order. Of course.

03:36I'm sorry. Yeah. Finish calling

03:38the meeting

03:38order. Commissioner Gonzalez.

03:43Will need to take

03:43the roll call and all that.

03:44Okay. Before we

03:44do that, why don't we ha have.

03:51Re request to I'm sorry,

03:51one more time again. What,

03:53what would you like me to do?

03:56Take a look at

03:56that script in front of you.

04:00There's an order.

04:01Right of

04:01of operations, including.

04:06We're getting

04:06the roll call. Okay. Very good.

04:09On the world

04:11call we'll have the.

04:15I'm sorry.

04:23Okay, why don't

04:23we go ahead and have the roll

04:28call now. And.

04:29We'll start with, who

04:29would you like to start with

04:32on that? Yeah.

04:32Commissioner Gonzalez present.

04:34Commissioner

04:34joiner here. Commissioner Reed.

04:37Commissioner Drake here.

04:44Commissioner brand here.

04:44Commissioner Craig here.

04:44Commissioner

04:49McCurdy, present six

04:50here. Thank you.

04:54Thank you.

04:58The administrative report on

04:58your agenda

04:58right here. Right? Okay.

05:03Yeah.

05:07Okay. Call to order

05:07roll, call a public comment.

05:09Not an genderized items.

05:13Citizens may address the members

05:13of the planning

05:13commission during

05:18public comment.

05:21Public comment. Time is reserved

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05:23the meeting for citizens

05:23to come out comment on the

05:26non engine ice items that are.

05:27Within the planning

05:27commission's jurisdiction.

05:29Is limited

05:29to a total of 15 minutes.

05:30Arizona state law prohibits the

05:30planning

05:30commission from discussing or

05:33taking.

05:33Any action on

05:34these non-ag genderized items.

05:38Speakers may submit

05:38a blue request to speak card.

05:40In, in person prior to

05:40the beginning of the meeting.

05:43Public testimony is limited

05:43to of three minutes per.

05:48Speaker.

05:50Okay then written comments are

05:51also being accepted for non

05:53generalized items.

05:56May be submitted by

05:56in person, by the hearing or

05:58electronically at the

05:58planning commission website.

06:01Within comments, written

06:01comments submitted

06:01electronically will be.

06:05Emailed to

06:05the commission members.

06:11Administrative report.

06:15Yeah. Thank you, commissioner

06:15Gonzalez. I just want to thank

06:18you for.

06:20For being the acting

06:20chair this evening as our most

06:23senior member, since.

06:24We lost a

06:24few members, basically.

06:27Getting termed

06:28out of their service.

06:32So appreciate the efforts

06:32in acting as the chair this

06:36evening.

06:36I wanted also let you know that.

06:41Commissioner Reed is planning

06:41on joining us remotely, but he

06:47will be late.

06:47So he'll just check

06:47in when he's available to, to

06:51sign in remotely.

06:51Also wanted to welcome.

06:53Our three new members.

06:54Commissioner

06:57commissioner McCurdy.

06:58And then commissioner brand and

07:07Glad to have you

07:07and, and thanks. Thank you for

07:09volunteering. And I know you've

07:09all served on other boards

07:11and commissions,

07:12so you're dedicated.

07:13Continual service

07:13is certainly appreciated.

07:14Wanted to draw your attention.

07:16To additional information that's

07:16in front of you. It's all.

07:19About, I

07:19think item number three.

07:22So the applicant

07:27dropped off some

07:27additional correspondence in the

07:32and, and in exhibit

07:34for y'all

07:34to take a look at and we also

07:36received.

07:36Some additional correspondence.

07:38Within the

07:38last hour and a half or so.

07:43And that's

07:44in front of you as well. So I

07:46wanna make sure you saw that.

07:49And members of the commission

07:49after tonight,

07:52our next available.

07:52Meeting will be November.

07:5717th, November 17th.

08:00Is on a Tuesday.

08:00We had a holiday conflict in

08:04early November. So.

08:04Your next regular

08:04scheduled meeting is Tuesday.

08:10November 17th. So just wanted

08:10to remind you of that. And

08:13that will be the

08:13only meeting that we have in

08:14November.

08:14So Tuesday, November 7th.

08:17That's

08:18all I have

08:18commissioner go Gonzalez.

08:22For the administrative report.

08:22Thank you.

08:22Very good. Thank you,

08:25sir.

08:25The next

08:25is on the public comment.

08:31We have, let's see.

08:31Commissioner Gonzalez. I think

08:37the public comment that

08:37you have received in terms of

08:39the comment

08:39cards probably relate to.

08:41One of the cases,

08:41perhaps item number three.

08:47So typically

08:47we run through presentations.

08:51Before we get to the public

08:51comment. So we're probably.

08:54Ready to

08:54move on to the consent agenda.

08:59Which I think there is an

08:59understanding that that item

09:01may be moving to regular.

09:04So we could probably

09:07start item number two.

09:13If you're ready, Mr. Chair.

09:13Very good on the consent.

09:15Oh, I'm sorry. The minutes.

09:15First item number one. Let's

09:18make sure we get.

09:18A motion

09:18and a decision on the minutes.

09:23Okay. Thank

09:29okay. So I guess

09:29the next point is the minutes

09:31approval

09:31of the September 23rd, 2026.

09:33Regular meeting minutes.

09:36Mr commissioner.

09:38I moved to approve

09:38the minutes and I will second

09:40that.

09:40Very good. I guess that.

09:43Passes then

09:43on the have to call for a.

09:46Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Excuse me.

09:48Yes. Can

09:48we have a vote on that, please?

09:54Mr. Gonzalez.

09:55Yes. Commissioner Joyner. Yes.

09:56Commissioner Reed. I'm sorry.

09:59Commissioner

09:59Drake. Yes. Commissioner brand.

10:03Yes. Commissioner Craig? Yes.

10:03Commissioner McCurdy.

10:03Yes. Motion passes. Thank

10:06you.

10:08Very good. Thank you.

10:16Just wanted

10:16to make sure anything on the.

10:21Consent agenda, Mr.

10:21Chairman, I'd like to move to.

10:25Remove item two from

10:25the consent agenda and move it

10:28to the regular agenda.

10:31Very good.

10:34Do we have any comments?

10:38Comments, does it need any

10:38presentation?

10:39Okay. I'm sorry. No

10:40comments on. Okay.

10:45Very good. Well, let's

10:45go ahead and move that way.

10:47I guess what

10:47we'll start here is with the.

10:51Yeah.

10:57On the 11 ZN, 1986.

10:57Number two Mac industrial re.

11:03Rezone quest by owner for a

11:03zoning district Mac amendment

11:08to develop. Amend.

11:08Development standards regarding

11:08required landscape

11:08setback, adjacent to streets.

11:14On a plus or

11:14minus 95 acre portion of one,

11:19one.

11:19And a plus

11:19and minus 1 24 acre site.

11:22Located at 1771.

11:25And 1785 north Pima road.

11:33It's AP N number 2 15 0 7 4 7

11:42And 2 15 0 7 2 2 P.

11:42With industrial

11:44park environmental.

11:44And sensitive lands, hillside

11:44plant community district.

11:49I one ESL,

11:49H D P C D to industrial

11:53park, environmental.

11:53Sensitive Lance hillside

11:53plant community district one.

12:01I won S E S L.

12:01H DPCD zoning

12:01staff contact is Chris Zimmer.

12:09Thank you. Commissioner

12:09planning, commissioners.

12:09I'm Chris Zimmer with the

12:12planning department here to

12:12introduce

12:12and present to you. Mac

12:15industrial.

12:16Amended standards.

12:19Standards to give you a

12:20little context. If you're not

12:21familiar with the site, it's

12:21pretty large.

12:24The highlighted area

12:24is about 94 acres.

12:27And the whole site

12:27is about 124, but the area

12:29that we're looking at tonight

12:29is specific to the highlighted

12:31in the yellow.

12:31It flanks the 1

12:310 1 freeway Pima road and bell.

12:39The existing zoning and proposed

12:40zoning is staying the same.

12:42It was originally

12:44approved back in 1986.

12:44This is more

12:44of a formality to just kind of

12:45clean up

12:45the language for this property.

12:53Here's a, just a snippet of

12:53the legislative draft that's

12:55been proposed for this

12:55request. It is to eliminate.

13:00The or to provide a

13:00landscape buffer only on bell,

13:0291st Trailview Pima road

13:02in the Fremont Pima frontage.

13:05This is essentially to eliminate

13:05the landscape

13:08buffer necessary for

13:13any internal streets.

13:13I will clarify on

13:13that one also, that this does

13:16not affect any of the landscape

13:16effort requirements. SCE.

13:19Scenic corridor, setbacks along

13:19PMA or the

13:19free freeway frontages.

13:22So all of that is staying.

13:23Consistent with 49, Dr. 2022.

13:26This is the

13:26request again in front of you.

13:35For that. And the applicant

13:35has prepared a more detailed

13:38presentation to kind of go

13:38through some of those exhibits

13:40and specific to the request.

13:43But that ends staff's

13:43presentation.

13:43And again, I have Jason

13:45here as well with

13:45the applicant team to kind of

13:47give you a, a little

13:47bit thorough of a presentation.

13:49Thank you. Thank you very much.

13:55Be working perfect.

14:03Mr chair, commissioners, Jason

14:03Morris with

14:03you Morris bomb behalf of

14:06the applicant.

14:06Thank you very much for.

14:07Your time and, and

14:07I'd like to thank staff. This

14:09is.

14:09A a technical amendment.

14:13And a technical request

14:13yet has to go through the

14:15public hearing process.

14:18So it's worth giving

14:18a little bit of background and

14:20I think more than anything.

14:20It's also

14:20worth giving assurances.

14:25Assurances that nothing is

14:25changing.

14:25And none of the commitments

14:27that were

14:27previously made are being.

14:31Retreated upon. So

14:31a as we go forward, I, I.

14:39Feel like

14:39I need to give a little bit of

14:39background to this only because

14:39some of the commissioners are

14:41new to this case.

14:41Although it's been in front of

14:43the planning commission.

14:43Most recently for the Rivian.

14:44Building that was approved.

14:46Actually

14:46within the last few months.

14:52And just as an update, they're

14:52actually in the process

14:54of their tenant improvements

14:55and moving into their building.

14:56So with that as a background.

14:59This parcel has

15:04been zoned I one for

15:04a significant amount of time,

15:06largely because it

15:06sits at the end of the runway.

15:09For Scottsdale air park.

15:14And was zoned.

15:14Zoned I one in

15:14a time when there was actually

15:17other industrial.

15:17Also shown in this area.

15:19During the

15:23state land department.

15:25Auction. It was advertised

15:25as I one and was planned

15:28for I one actually.

15:34Heavier industrial uses.

15:34And as a result of the Mac

15:37companies, being able to

15:37purchase

15:37this property at auction and

15:40being the high bidder.

15:40It was actually turned into a

15:40lighter industrial

15:44component with

15:45some of the.

15:47Forward facing uses that we've

15:47talked about like Rivian that

15:50are more public facing

15:50rather than distribution.

15:55If we go a little

15:55bit further back, we can

15:56get a sense of what this

15:56area was like historically.

15:58And I think this

15:58gives you a very good sense

16:01of.

16:01The proximity to the runway

16:01and obviously what the flight

16:03patterns would

16:03be as a result of this site.

16:09So

16:12subsequent to the state land

16:12auction, our zoning was already

16:15in place. And I'd also

16:15like to reiterate nothing that

16:17we're discussing this evening.

16:18Has any impact on the underlying

16:21zoning? This truly is

16:21about the technical

16:21aspects of the ordinance.

16:25But this plan.

16:25Was delivered to the design

16:25review board. I believe there's

16:30at least one member.

16:30Of the planning commission who

16:30sat through those DRB hearings.

16:36Hearings and the plan has

16:36not changed. There have been

16:39some deviations.

16:39We've worked with staff.

16:43We are now under permit review,

16:43building permit review for

16:48buildings a and B.

16:48Building C and

16:48D are in place. So this has

16:52moved along.

16:53Precisely as was planned

16:53at the DRB and approved by

16:57the DRB.

17:00Most importantly, at the DRB

17:00level and in every subsequent

17:03hearing and

17:03conversation with the city.

17:04More importantly

17:07with the neighborhood.

17:07And the DC ranch residents,

17:07we have committed to a

17:12perimeter landscape.

17:12And that has not changed

17:12and will not changed as

17:14a result of this. In fact,

17:17the perimeter landscape is now a

17:17better pedestrian design than

17:20it was originally.

17:20And includes

17:21all of the security.

17:24Provisions that were originally

17:26approved at the D R B.

17:26So you see, there were a series.

17:30Since our original TRB

17:30approval of other master plans.

17:36Plans, all of those

17:36are still in place. None of

17:37those are changing

17:37as a result of this request.

17:42So what is changing?

17:42Essentially

17:42we are going from calling.

17:47The internal drives.

17:47Drives private drives to tracks.

17:51Tracks the difference between

17:51a private drive and a track.

17:55Is the city treats a tract.

17:59Much like a street in terms

17:59of the internal landscaping.

18:02In this instance,

18:07because of that.

18:10Desire to be attracted

18:10by the city. This is driven

18:12by the city's ordinances,

18:12but also part of the platting

18:15and.

18:15Access requirements.

18:15There are certain pinch points.

18:19Limited pinch points

18:19where it does not meet 20 feet

18:24on the internal drive.

18:24That being said the totality

18:24of the landscaping as we'll

18:27see in other.

18:30Slides completely.

18:31Exceeds any of the requested

18:31landscaping for this area?

18:39Which is why staff is

18:39recommending

18:39approval of this, because

18:41they're comfortable that the

18:42perimeter landscaping

18:44does not change and

18:46only the.

18:46Internal drives or impacted, but

18:46those internal

18:49drives are offering.

18:50More landscaping

18:50that would be required.

18:51Required.

18:51So as we look at the only.

18:54Impacted areas. They're

18:55essentially

18:57two tracked locations.

19:00Locations within the park

19:00where 20 feet is not possible

19:04in total landscaping.

19:09Those are largely around curved

19:09areas or

19:09around existing buildings

19:13again. So we

19:13are talking about areas where.

19:15Technically,

19:15we cannot make that standard.

19:16But as you'll see, we've

19:16exceeded

19:16the landscape overall. So

19:19anyone.

19:19Experiencing

19:19this park either from.

19:26The exterior driving

19:26by this area on either of the,

19:29the two arterials

19:29or from the interior.

19:31We'll see a plethora of

19:31landscaping

19:34and over landscaping.

19:39This exhibit gives

19:39you a sense of that area on

19:41the perimeter that we

19:41discussed that is not changing.

19:43Everywhere in green was

19:44what was presented to the D

19:49R B originally.

19:52And in every subsequent plan,

19:52those areas have not changed

19:55in terms of their density

19:55of landscaping or their size.

19:58I will also point.

19:58Out that both the density

19:58of the landscaping and the

20:00size of the landscaping.

20:01Exceeds the requirements

20:01for the city of Scottsdale.

20:04The areas

20:04in yellow, the internal tracks.

20:07Tracks our

20:07areas where they have corners.

20:11Corners that do not

20:11meet that area. We'll go into

20:14a little bit more.

20:17Detail as to what

20:17that area looks like and where

20:21those tracks are.

20:21Slightly below the standard.

20:24But as I alluded to

20:24earlier, the required 20 foot

20:27landscaping internally.

20:32If it were measured in terms

20:32of landscaping would have

20:34to require 127,000

20:34square feet of landscaping.

20:39In this instance with the

20:39plan that's proffered and the

20:41plan that

20:41has been approved by D R B.

20:45It provides landscaping along

20:46those roads

20:49and tracks of 317,000

20:50square feet.

20:50So to my earlier point,

20:50nothing has changed and we

20:53do exceed the standard.

20:54What we are asking

20:54for is some leeway on some

20:56of the corners.

20:57Corners,

20:57and I will give that to you.

20:59And, and this actually

21:04as things have changed

21:04literally day by day, as we've

21:07been doing our.

21:09Minute calculations.

21:10These numbers are actually

21:10lower than the numbers.

21:18That will in actuality

21:18be those setback points. So at

21:20one point we thought that

21:20the lowest deviation was a

21:23three foot setback.

21:23In fact, because

21:23we've moved the sidewalk.

21:25To the other side,

21:25to be closer to the large

21:28landscape tracks.

21:33Tracks, there's an extra

21:3310 feet that they're at least

21:3510 feet. So there's nothing

21:35less than 10 feet. Even

21:37in our pinch

21:37points, nearest the buildings.

21:39Buildings. And as

21:39you can see in many instances,

21:41in fact, in most instances,

21:43we exceed the required

21:4420 feet by either a little

21:46or a significant number.

21:51That is also true.

21:51There is one point on the

21:53south building where

21:53we are two feet deficient.

21:55But as you can

21:55see from the areas on either

21:58side, we are.

21:58More than making up

21:58for that on the other portions

21:59of the landscape tract.

22:09I, this is probably

22:09more data than you want to

22:11see on a Wednesday

22:11evening. And I know you have

22:12more important cases

22:12to look at, but I wanted to.

22:15Show you graphically.

22:15How far we're exceeding

22:15all of those standards.

22:22Standards, because I think the

22:22concern and the reason perhaps

22:24this was pulled

22:24is to make sure we are on

22:26the record as doing

22:26everything that we promise to.

22:28Do for the neighborhood when

22:29this was originally approved.

22:32And that we are

22:32so with that, I'm happy

22:32to answer any questions you

22:34may have.

22:37Mr chairman.

22:39Yes. Thank you.

22:44Thank you very much.

22:48I'm the one that

22:48pulled it. So I'll start off

22:50and I do wanna correct

22:50you on one thing. Three

22:52of us sat

22:52on D B when this was approved.

22:54One of which is a landscaping

22:54expert. So I'm thrilled

22:56to have him

22:56back on the Dias with us.

23:01But thank you very much.

23:01My concerns were because this,

23:02the exhibits that

23:02we got didn't have any of this

23:08information in it.

23:09So you've answered my questions

23:11and that I I'm sorry,

23:11commissioner. I wanted to point

23:12out that's our failure, not

23:13staff. So thank you

23:13very much for actually giving.

23:16Us an opportunity to tell

23:16the story. Absolutely. No, I'm

23:17very happy with what

23:17you said, but that's all my

23:19comments. So.

23:22That's it.

23:22Very good. Do we

23:22have anybody else that has any

23:25questions or anything?

23:25Okay, thank you very much.

23:27I'd like to make a motion.

23:37I'd like to make a motion

23:37for recommendation of the

23:39approval of sit for

23:39city council for case 11 ZN

23:421 19 86. Number.

23:46Two after finding

23:46that the P C D criteria had

23:48been met and that the proposed

23:48zoning district map amendment

23:51and development

23:51plan are consistent. And.

23:52Conform with

23:52the adopted general plan.

23:55Per the attached stipulations.

23:55I'll second. That motion.

24:01What do these

24:01people think you need to ask?

24:07Were these on that?

24:08No, I think they're

24:08on the they're need to call

24:12for them, right? Yeah.

24:16Okay. Very good. Thank you very

24:16much for your presentation.

24:18We'll just go

24:18ahead and move on to roll call.

24:20Did you make

24:20a second? No. Did we get a

24:22second? Yeah. Second.

24:23Right. This section, right.

24:25Well, go ahead and

24:25go with the roll call. Thank

24:27you.

24:30Commissioner go Gonzalez. Yes.

24:30Commissioner Joyner.

24:30Yes. Commissioner Drake.

24:37Yes. Commissioner brand? Yes.

24:37Commissioner Craig? Yes.

24:37Commissioner McCurdy. Yes.

24:42Motion passes. Thank you.

24:42Thank you very much. Thank

24:42you for your presentation.

24:54Half the room temping

24:54out. so, anyway, we'll move.

24:57Go ahead. Move to item number.

24:59Four item number three,

24:59excuse me. On a regular agenda.

25:07Okay, thank you. Good evening.

25:12Chair Gonzalez members of the

25:12planning commission. My name is

25:16Jeff Barnes.

25:16With the city's planning

25:16department presenting for you.

25:22Case ZN three.

25:272026.

25:28For context,

25:28this site is located at the.

25:33Southeast corner of happy

25:33valley road and Pima road in

25:36the.

25:37The highlighted site shown here.

25:41That includes 94.8 gross acres.

25:46Of site.

25:46Getting in a little bit closer.

25:50Still capturing

25:50the overall in this, you can.

25:54See that most

25:54of the site is vacant as it

25:57exists.

25:59Exists. There are visible

25:59regional drainage facility.

26:02Improvements

26:02that the city has put in.

26:03Along the Pima road frontage.

26:07You may not be

26:10able to see as

26:10clearly at, at this view, but

26:12there are.

26:15Three culverted

26:15crossings that were put in.

26:23Accounting for access, future

26:23access to this site as part

26:26of those

26:26regional drainage improvements.

26:30The existing zoning

26:30on this site is R 1, 1 90.

26:36ESL the applicant

26:37team proposes R 1 35.

26:43ESL on this site.

26:43The existing

26:43general plan designation.

26:46Of rural neighborhoods.

26:49Remains as

26:49the proposed zoning request.

26:53Is still in alignment with the.

26:56The less than

26:56one dwelling unit per acre.

27:02Classification that goes along

27:02with that. So there is not

27:04a accompanying

27:04general plan amendment.

27:07With this application.

27:07The

27:09the the

27:15overall goal of this request

27:15with the

27:15applicant's rezoning proposal

27:18is to ultimately

27:18allow for the property.

27:20To be reconfigured into a 77.

27:23Launch single family,

27:23residential subdivision.

27:31With the proposal of amended

27:31development

27:31standards as allowable under

27:35the environmentally sensitive

27:35lands, zoning

27:36overlay that exist.

27:38Exists out there today.

27:38Highlighting a, a few key items.

27:40For consideration

27:41with this request.

27:44I mentioned

27:44that this is proposing 77 lots.

27:50Lots on 94.8 gross

27:50acres, which amounts to a 0.81.

27:55Dwelling unit per acre.

27:56Density this

27:56development proposal.

28:00Includes a combination of lot.

28:06Lots and tracked NAOs.

28:07S and accounts for the existence

28:07of those regional drainage

28:10facility.

28:10Improvements along Pima road.

28:13Those do factor in

28:18to the NAOs calculation as the

28:18environmentally

28:18sensitive lands ordinance.

28:22Contains a provision

28:22that allows for an NAOs.

28:27NAOs reduction proportional to

28:27the amount

28:27of regional drainage facility

28:31on the site.

28:31And so I mentioned

28:31that as it's factored into the

28:34overall.

28:36Highlighting

28:39for you a few

28:39of the things that I hadn't.

28:43Hadn't already highlighted

28:43in the previous slides.

28:46The the existing

28:50site is made up of three

28:50parcels. I mentioned it's

28:54proposed.

28:54Ultimately

28:54for a 77 lot subdivision.

28:59The environmentally sensitive

28:59lands, overlay does limit.

29:02That to a maximum

29:02building height of 24 feet.

29:07So the ultimate product

29:07out there would be held to

29:09that.

29:11The

29:13required

29:14NAOs based on slope analysis.

29:21Prior to that reduction,

29:21they mentioned comes in as a

29:26Acres, but the applicant's

29:26proposal

29:26accounts for the ability to

29:29provide.

29:3123.89 acres.

29:31Within the site

29:31again, in that distribution.

29:34Of about nine and a half acres.

29:39Of tract ALS

29:39and about 14 and a half acres

29:43of Omo and AOS.

29:44AOS some

29:44quick comparison numbers.

29:48The existing density.

29:50Calculation for

29:50R 1, 1 90 zoning on the site.

29:54Calculates 19 lots as a result.

30:01The requested R 1 35.

30:01In just base calculation.

30:04Would allow for 98 lots.

30:09Lots in calculation. The

30:09applicant

30:09team is proposing only 77.

30:12Which is

30:12accompanied by constitu.

30:16Stipulations that would hold

30:16them to, to that density number.

30:20As well as conformance

30:21to the, the proposed.

30:26Development site plan.

30:28I mentioned the amended

30:28development standards. They are.

30:32A product of the environmentally

30:34sensitive lands.

30:34Lands overlay.

30:36They are typically.

30:42They're typically reviewed and

30:42approved at the time of the

30:44preliminary plat as

30:44the way that ordinance section.

30:47Directs, but showing

30:48again, for

30:50comparison of, of the.

30:50The requested

30:50change on the screen here.

30:57Is going from

30:59and I've I've, I've mislabeled

30:59that first column as our

31:071, 1 30.

31:07It should

31:07be R one 90, but the, the lot

31:10area there changing from

31:10what's out there today to the.

31:13The base R 1 35 zoning

31:13to the proposed amendments.

31:16Amendments

31:16just for some context for you.

31:18And again, I should mention.

31:20Those amended

31:22development standards.

31:24Standards are set up by the

31:25environmentally

31:25sensitive lands overlay

31:27to allow for.

31:30Design flexibility in the way,

31:30lots are

31:30configured and oriented

31:34within subdivisions.

31:34Subdivisions

31:34so that they may respond to.

31:37Wash corridors, open space

31:38requirements and, and similar.

31:41Features protected within those

31:46drainage

31:46mens NAS and CENIC corridor.

31:48Seen a corridor, a little.

31:52Hard to put on

31:52the screen here in the scale

31:54of it, but this gives you.

31:55The overall subdivision.

32:00Plan extending there from,

32:00from happy valley to the north.

32:03Down along Pima road to the.

32:07Abutting the LA Mora

32:07commercial center to the south.

32:09This proposal includes.

32:13Includes an access point out to.

32:16Happy valley

32:16at the, the Northeast corner.

32:20It also accounts

32:20for utilizing two out of the.

32:27Three culverted crossings

32:27that were put in as part of

32:30those regional

32:31drainage improvements.

32:31At the southernmost

32:31and the center of the site.

32:34With that, that north most.

32:37One out onto Pima

32:37not being utilized by this.

32:42This proposal.

32:48The next slide

32:48up here has for you the, the

32:50N a O S and open space plan.

32:56Which is split

32:56in half to at least fit a

32:59little better, maybe visually

32:59for you, but the left side

33:02of the screen,

33:02there is the north.

33:02End of the site,

33:03the, the right, being the, the

33:05south end.

33:05Giving a

33:05little bit better visual.

33:07On how that

33:08internal circulation.

33:13Works along with the

33:14the open

33:14space corridors between.

33:18Between homes in those

33:23in the lots shown

33:27shown. And then this slide

33:35or.

33:35Circulation plan for

33:35you. I've blown it up as much

33:37as I could

33:37on the, the right hand side of

33:38the screen there, but again,

33:39giving you that

33:39circulation context utilizing.

33:45Two out of those three

33:45existing access points out to,

33:48to Pima road and then adding.

33:49The the new out to

33:49happy valley at the Northeast

33:52corner.

33:57And so

33:59in, in summary

33:59of staff's presentation.

34:05The, the requested application

34:05for unite

34:05is for a recommendation.

34:09To the city council regarding.

34:11Request by the owner for

34:11approval of the zoning district

34:12map amendment.

34:17From the existing R 1, 1 90

34:17single family, residential

34:17environmentally sensitive

34:22land zoning.

34:22To the R 1 35.

34:22Environmentally

34:23sensitive lands zoning.

34:29With those ultimate requests for

34:29amended development

34:32standards to create

34:32a 77 lot.

34:33Residential subdivision

34:33on this 94.8 gross acre site.

34:39That concludes staff's

34:39presentation.

34:39I know the applicant team is

34:41here with.

34:42Presentation as well.

34:47Thank you, Mr.

34:47Varnes. Let me ask, do we have

34:49any questions

34:49right now for Mr. Barnes?

34:51Okay. Very

34:51good. Well, thank you, sir.

35:07Mr. Berry.

35:10Yes, sir. Thank you.

35:16It'd give me a moment

35:16just to get situated here.

35:17No problem. Thank you,

35:18sir. As you know, I usually

35:19use the Elmo, but I've

35:19gone 20th century. Forget 21st

35:21century here. I'm gonna.

35:23I'm gonna use the PowerPoint.

35:23So you'll have to give

35:24me some grace certainly

35:24on this one, but let me

35:27get.

35:27Things a

35:27bit organized here. Thank you.

35:42To give you an

35:42idea of how, what a dinosaur

35:44I am. They

35:44had to show me which button to

35:45press to

35:45advance the, the PowerPoint.

35:47So, oh, that's okay. I'm

35:47still wondering who Elmo is.

35:52.

35:55I think it

35:55was part of a puppet. I'm not

35:56sure, but puppet show. Thank

35:56you. Acton

35:56chair, Gonzalez members

35:59of the commission

36:01for your record, John.

36:01Barry 67 50 east

36:01Camelback road in Scottsdale.

36:04And the question this evening.

36:05Before you

36:05is, what do we do with this?

36:10Odd unique

36:10infill parcel of 95 acres.

36:13At the corner

36:13of happy valley and Pima road.

36:17Happy valley is a

36:17minor arterial. PMA is a major

36:22arterial.

36:25Now it's interesting because

36:25this site

36:25is even more difficult

36:27to site plan because

36:27the city, in order to address

36:29drainage issues.

36:30Issues put

36:30about a, over a 100 foot wide.

36:34Regional drainage channel all

36:34along Pima

36:34road, adjacent to our,

36:38on our property.

36:38There's also

36:38immediately to the south.

36:43At the intersection of pinnacle

36:43peak and Pima, and including

36:46immediately adjacent

36:46to our Southern boundary.

36:49Commercial. And in fact, the

36:49Lara commercial

36:49shopping center shares

36:52a boundary with our property.

36:54Now at one time and with

36:54another applicant and another

36:57lawyer.

36:58There might have been

36:58a request with all of these

37:00constraints. We've talked about.

37:03For a mixture of maybe

37:03some commercial down to the

37:05south there adjacent to

37:05the existing shopping center.

37:12And given that a hundred foot

37:12wide regional drainage center,

37:14which at least for now

37:14is not exactly something you'd

37:17put on the

37:17cover of Arizona highways.

37:20Highways with these types of

37:20constraints

37:22and the unique nature

37:23of this property long and

37:23narrow, maybe

37:26some high density,

37:26residential to go with that.

37:27And that could have been

37:27the application. And in the

37:28past, there have been

37:28some of those applications.

37:32Now today it's very

37:32different and it it's nice to

37:35be associated

37:35with a client like Shea Holmes.

37:41Cuz what you have with Shaa

37:41Holmes's leadership in their

37:42corporate ethic is we're here

37:42this evening with a request

37:46and you know,

37:46Shaa is a family-owned.

37:47Owned company. They've got a lot

37:47of experience in Scottsdale.

37:49And we're here

37:49this evening with a request.

37:51For 77 homes on 95 acres.

37:58Now, these are one

37:59story, luxury homes in a gated

38:02community,

38:02and I want to stress this.

38:04That the,

38:04this proposal has fewer homes.

38:05Homes than what

38:05is permitted by the maximum.

38:07In the general

38:07plan for the zoning category.

38:10Now, what does the general plan.

38:13Allow

38:16this is an

38:16excerpt from the general plan.

38:24The designation on the

38:24general plan for this piece of

38:26property is rural neighborhoods.

38:26And you can see the definition

38:28of rural neighborhoods.

38:29It's usually one.

38:30Dwelling

38:30unit per acre or more acres.

38:33Our proposed density,

38:33as you can see in green is

38:370.081 homes per acre.

38:3819% less than

38:38the maximum permitted under

38:42the general plan designation

38:42for rural neighborhoods.

38:49Neighborhoods now our original

38:49proposal

38:50that we discussed was to,

38:56to.

38:56Recognize that general plan

38:56and look at doing 95 homes

38:59on 95 acres.

38:59That would've

38:59included two story homes.

39:02Two-story homes. It had no

39:03additional

39:03natural area open space

39:08or preserved desert.

39:08Associated with that request,

39:08but we would've

39:09met the ordinance

39:10requirement, which is

39:10pretty onerous in some cases.

39:12For preserved

39:14desert on this site.

39:14But

39:19as many of

39:19you know, that is not how Shea

39:20Holmes operates, nor is it how.

39:27This firm operates after

39:27neighborhood

39:27outreach. We listen to the

39:31community. We listen to

39:31the neighbors and we made some

39:31significant change.

39:31Changes to that proposal.

39:32And this is what is before

39:33you this evening.

39:33High altitude. It's the only.

39:3677 homes on the 95 acres.

39:44It does have more preserved

39:44desert or NAOs you see

39:47that 30% number and

39:47we use it throughout and we

39:49need to, we need

39:49to fact check that cause I.

39:50I'm not sure it's correct.

39:51But needless to say it

39:52is more.

39:53Than two acres of additional

39:53NAOs or preserved desert on

39:56the property.

39:56And we did eliminate

39:56all of the two story homes.

40:05Homes. I wanna do

40:05a little deeper dive on those

40:08changes we made to our plan.

40:08We've talked about reducing

40:10the number

40:10of homes eliminating the.

40:11Two story homes. Now this is.

40:12Something

40:13very interesting from the.

40:15Setback for our homes along

40:15Pima road. It's about 200.

40:1815 feet from

40:18Pima road. That's the average.

40:20That includes a hundred.

40:24Foot scenic

40:24corridor as well along Pima.

40:29That Pima road also includes

40:29an eight foot wide multi-use

40:33path for the public.

40:33It includes a 10

40:33foot wide trail for the public

40:36as well.

40:36Now to the east,

40:36adjacent to those neighbors.

40:44Neighbors in the upper right

40:44hand corner. You'll see those

40:45gray roofs, just south

40:45of happy valley road. That is

40:48the solitude neighborhood. And

40:48I want you to remember that.

40:51Location in

40:51the name. That's the solitude.

40:52Neighborhood, but adjacent

40:52to the solitude neighborhood.

40:54Running all the way. South

40:54is a hundred foot average.

40:57Building

40:57setback along that boundary.

41:05Now we also had a suggestion to

41:05allow pedestrian connectivity

41:08to that shopping center

41:08immediately

41:10to our south to allow

41:11people to walk or ride their.

41:11Bike directly into and out

41:11of that shopping center, which

41:13we provided.

41:13Provided we did provide two

41:13acres of

41:13additional preserved desert.

41:17And something I'm gonna

41:17spend some more time on is

41:18that last bullet point up there.

41:23The modified access to happy

41:23valley road at the request

41:25of the neighbors, that those

41:25neighbors would be solitude.

41:28They have

41:28an extremely challenging.

41:34Access issue today with

41:34access into an out of happy

41:37valley road.

41:38From there neighborhood.

41:41These are just a couple

41:41images of some existing Shea

41:43home.

41:43Signature product in Scottsdale.

41:48By the way these homes

41:48will be somewhere from three

41:50to 5 million.

41:52Now by the time

41:52they get built, who knows how

41:53much they'll,

41:55they'll actually be.

42:00Now, one of the

42:00things that I don't members of

42:02the commission here and

42:02will here in the future, if

42:04this is your first meeting.

42:05Is the concern

42:05that with new residential.

42:06Will it lower the

42:06property values in the area.

42:10And in this instance,

42:10what we've done is kind of

42:15segment out some.

42:15Neighborhoods just

42:15geographically.

42:15And you can see based on the

42:16different color squares there.

42:19The average square foot

42:19for sales prices in the area.

42:23The solitude homes, for

42:23example, in that yellow area.

42:32Are going for about $877

42:35the, that's a recent

42:35comp for us. We intend and

42:37projecting guests.

42:37It's a guess will

42:37be at around $879 per square

42:42foot.

42:43Now that $913 per square

42:43foot is an anomaly. Those

42:46homes in

42:46Prada next door to the east.

42:50Are anywhere from 10,000

42:50to, I think there's some there

42:5225, 30,000 square

42:52feet in there in that project.

42:55But you can see

42:55in the balance of the area,

42:57the range of.

43:01Prices and at $879

43:01per square foot, I don't think

43:04we're gonna be, this will

43:04be a challenge for people's

43:06property values in the area.

43:08Acting chair members of the

43:09commission. We all know that

43:11water is a critical

43:11issue in our community.

43:12And one of the very interesting

43:12things about this case.

43:16Is that

43:16this proposal actually.

43:20Result in

43:20less water consumption.

43:24Than large lots.

43:24Lots that are large homes.

43:27Homes that have a

43:28lot of pools. I mean, multiple

43:32pools.

43:35Pools huge amounts

43:35of turf. And if we hadn't zoom

43:38in on an aerial

43:38photo on some of those homes

43:39immediately to the east of us,

43:40but based

43:40on staff available data.

43:43We predict and project it,

43:43we will actually consume 60%

43:47less water.

43:47On this, with this proposal.

43:52Now the real issue,

43:52because this is where water is

43:54lost. Much

43:55of the water. We know.

43:55That goes

43:55into the sewer is recycled.

43:58And captured what's

43:58not captured. Is the water.

44:01Outdoor used outdoors

44:01by single family homes.

44:04Homes and

44:04about 70% of the water.

44:08In a single

44:08family homes, total use 70%.

44:11Is outdoor

44:11water use. So if we can.

44:17Limit the amount of outdoor

44:17water consumption.

44:20We drastically reduce

44:20the amount

44:20of water use by a home.

44:24And that is true with

44:24these homes as well. There'll

44:26be limitations on

44:26the amount of turf that can be

44:28used on the, on the site.

44:29And there will be obviously

44:29significant

44:29and technologically advanced.

44:34Advanced methods to restrict

44:34and take better care of our

44:37water resource.

44:37I'd like to talk about access.

44:40And you have these graphics.

44:43Graphics on the diocese there.

44:43And they were a suggestion

44:44from one of your fellow.

44:46Commissioners

44:46that we provide those to you.

44:54And I know

44:54some of you live up in that

44:55area. I'm sure

44:55all of us have traveled up in

44:57that area and we know

44:57that happy valley road and

44:58Pima road

44:58in general are challenging.

45:00For folks

45:00when they drive up there.

45:05This graphic does not show the

45:05current condition for solitude.

45:08Now you can see

45:08solitude on the right there in

45:09the bottom, right?

45:09With all those gray roofs.

45:10Roofs, what they

45:10have now is not what you see

45:13there, what they have now.

45:19Is a lottery demolition

45:19Derby, trying to get out of

45:22their subdivision, unhappy

45:22valley road

45:22with high speed traffic and.

45:25And try and

45:26get, make a left turn out of

45:28their property

45:28to head towards teamer road.

45:30We worked with them. We

45:31collaborated

45:31with them. They're president

45:33of the homeowners association

45:34is here this evening.

45:38We work closely with the city

45:39transportation staff. And the

45:41challenge is left turns in

45:41and out of their subdivision

45:44at happy valley.

45:46And how did we,

45:46how did we improve that again

45:47with the transportation

45:47departments and involvement

45:49and blessing is what

45:50you see there.

45:50And those median changes those.

45:52Protected medians with protected

45:53left turns and right. Turns.

45:58Are in use all over

45:58the city, including on Pima

46:00road, south

46:00of this particular subdivision.

46:06So it will provide deceleration

46:06lanes. It provides a heart

46:08safe Harbor for people

46:08to wait until traffic is clear

46:11to be able to accelerate.

46:11Into the traffic on

46:11happy valley road and also to

46:14make their left turn.

46:14And not impede the flow.

46:17Of traffic that's going through

46:17today on happy valley road.

46:24Now in terms of the.

46:24Number of cars that the, that

46:24the traffic report identifies.

46:32Identifies in the morning, it's

46:32anticipated that, making a left

46:34turn out of our

46:34pro parcel, which is to the

46:36left, where you see the

46:36vacant land with our entrance.

46:37Is about 15 cars in

46:37the morning, making left turns

46:40out of there.

46:40And in the evening

46:40about 10 cars in the evening.

46:50Something that doesn't really

46:50jump out in the staff report,

46:53but I think it's

46:53important for us to emphasize.

46:58Is this 95 acres

46:58has the legal right to three

47:05access points on Pima.

47:06In fact, the city recognized

47:07that when they put in

47:08that over a hundred foot wide

47:08drainage,

47:08regional drainage channel

47:11along the front

47:11of the, of the entire range of

47:12this property.

47:12Because they

47:12built three bridges over.

47:18That regional drainage channel.

47:18So let's give you an idea

47:20of the magnitude of that

47:20channel that they gotta build

47:21bridges over it. It

47:21had to be all weather access.

47:23All-weather access. We are

47:23only using two of those three.

47:27Bridges, none of them

47:27will look like the point of

47:28ACHI, but there will be

47:28three bridges that are already

47:30installed.

47:30Across that

47:30drainage those the drainage.

47:35Channel

47:36so we've eliminated

47:36one of 'em the one furthest to

47:39the north.

47:40Is a simple, right

47:40in, right out. You can see

47:44the green arrow.

47:44Going right out of the

47:44project and heading north on

47:50Pima road.

47:52Now importantly at the bottom,

47:52you see that left green

47:55arrow, that green arrow at

47:55the bottom, turning into the

47:57project.

47:57There's a new 100 foot.

48:00Long deceleration lane in

48:00order to enter that in order

48:05to enter the project.

48:07That means that

48:07cars do not have to slow down

48:09as they put on

48:09their blinker and move to turn

48:12into the subdivision.

48:12The cars on Pima continue

48:13north without having to slow

48:15down.

48:17It has a salutatory

48:17effect on traffic on Pima road

48:20and makes it better.

48:20What are the

48:20numbers we're talking about?

48:23In the morning

48:23for that right in write out is

48:25four cars in the morning.

48:26What about

48:26coming back in the evening?

48:30Seven cars now.

48:32The numbers probably don't

48:32justify a D cell lane, but

48:34it's something that the city.

48:35Requested and something that

48:35we happily agreed to provide.

48:42The final access

48:42point is further to the south.

48:44And this is full access.

48:48Now this

48:48you will see, or on the upper.

48:50Let's see.

48:57I was going

48:57to look for the mouse, but I

48:59can't find it.

48:59I smell a rat. I can't find

49:02the mouse.

49:02So you see where it

49:02says Pima road coming south.

49:03You'll see that green arrow.

49:04There is a, again, a protected.

49:13Left turn lane that

49:13is about a hundred feet long

49:15to allow traffic to gather there

49:15without impeding the southbound

49:21traffic on Pima road.

49:21There's a right in,

49:21right out going north on Pima.

49:23And also if you're coming

49:23out of this subdivision, you

49:25may turn

49:26left and find that refu.

49:27Refuge area that long area.

49:28Where you can wait in safety.

49:30Until there is

49:30a gap where it's safe to merge

49:33into traffic.

49:33On Pima. And again, there

49:33are several of these types

49:36of.

49:36Of geometrics and medians.

49:38Medians that

49:38exist on PMA road today.

49:43And all over the city

49:43and they're proven safe and

49:45our transportation department.

49:47Has endorsed them.

49:54Now I know

49:54some of, you know, this.

50:00But when we submit our

50:00applications,

50:00we're required to prepare

50:03a transportation

50:04mitigation analysis.

50:04And that's prepared by traffic

50:05engineers for traffic engineers.

50:08Engineers. They're very thick

50:08and they talk about all sorts

50:14of things.

50:14But the city requires

50:14that you do whatever you can

50:17to mitigate the impact.

50:18Of any new traffic that

50:18your proposal's gonna bring to

50:23our streets.

50:23So on this instance, working

50:23with city staff, working with

50:26solitude.

50:26Working with the neighbors

50:26and working with our client.

50:33All of those improvements.

50:33I've shown you in the last

50:35three slides I showed

50:35you and then are in front

50:36of you. All

50:39of those improvements.

50:41We pay for, they're not a

50:41taxpayer expense. They're the

50:44most important thing from the

50:44traffic engineer's perspective.

50:46Is that the

50:46result is it enhances safety.

50:48And it doesn't

50:48impede the flow of traffic.

50:52So this conclusion is

50:52a that's in the transportation.

50:56Analysis it's been

50:56accepted by the city staff.

51:00Basically says that when

51:00you look at all the things

51:04we've done,

51:08the conditions will not

51:09deteriorate

51:09compared to what exists today,

51:12even though

51:14we're adding 77 home.

51:14Homes to the area.

51:14And that's what that sentence.

51:16Says I can go through

51:16it in greater detail if

51:17you want.

51:18But that is the punchline

51:18for the traffic analysis.

51:26Acting chair members of the

51:26commission in summary. I know

51:28I'm way over

51:28on my time, but I thought it

51:30was important.

51:30Some others thought it was.

51:30Important that we talk about

51:30that access in particular. So

51:36let me conclude.

51:38We do reduce the total

51:38amount of water that will

51:40be used on this 95

51:40acres compared to what could

51:43be done with the current zoning.

51:45Today that is true of

51:45reducing the amount of outdoor

51:48water consumed

51:50on the site as well.

51:50Now, this is an intangible,

51:50but it's an important one.

51:57It eliminates the uncertainty

51:57for everybody

51:59in this area about

51:59what's gonna go on

51:59that 95 acres. What's gonna go

52:01there. Will it be

52:01commercial one day? Will it be

52:05apartments? Will it.

52:06Be high rises. Will

52:06it be, you know, who knows?

52:08But it, it creates

52:08a bunch of uncertainty and it

52:10can be argued that that's

52:10worse for property values.

52:13Than putting in place

52:13a very high end single family

52:16gated luxury home community

52:16three to 5 million homes.

52:18Homes. So this removes that

52:18uncertainty

52:20for everybody in the

52:21area.

52:21Now it does provide very

52:21appropriate

52:21contextually appropriate.

52:26Development.

52:33I think we

52:33have the right to go to two

52:34stories on this property,

52:34whether it's

52:36the current zoning or

52:36our proposed zoning, the current

52:36zoning would allow two story

52:40homes here.

52:41But what we're proposing

52:41and all of these things I'm

52:43describing here will be invoked

52:43in the stipulations are invoked

52:47in the stimulus.

52:47Stipulations. So we're limited

52:47to one story. Maximum height of

52:49staff set of 24, 24 feet.

52:55Reduce the number

52:55of homes by 19%. It is in

52:57conformance with all city

52:57adopted plans.

52:57Sometimes I come before

53:00you with proposals that are.

53:01So new, so unique or so

53:01different

53:01that aren't anticipated

53:08by our city's plans.

53:09Plans that we're asking

53:09you for some, some changes to

53:11those plans. This

53:11is not one of those. This is

53:13in conformance with all

53:13of the city's approved plans.

53:15Plans for this property.

53:17And importantly, as you

53:17know, we want, we work through

53:18collaboration. We

53:18worked with a solid team folks.

53:20To construct

53:20and pay for not the taxpayers.

53:23Taxpayers, but we pay for

53:23the improved vehicular access.

53:29Along happy valley road. We

53:29provide that

53:29pedestrian connectivity to

53:32the shopping

53:33center to the south.

53:37We have these huge average

53:37building

53:37setbacks along Pima and

53:41CENIC corridors and the building

53:41setbacks

53:41along our neighbors boundary

53:44to the east.

53:44We preserve two

53:44more acres of additional NA OS.

53:46We have support from

53:46the LA Marata shopping center.

53:50We have a staff recommendation

53:50from your

53:50professional planning and

53:53transportation staff.

53:58For approval importantly,

53:58and we work very hard with the

54:01solitude homeowners association.

54:01I'd like

54:01to publicly thank them for

54:03their time

54:03and, and energy on this.

54:04We have their support

54:05for this proposal from them.

54:09Now Adam, I'm sorry,

54:09but I've kind of stole two

54:12sentences out of your letter,

54:12your email that you sent

54:14to the staff and to the city.

54:14Supporting this. And I did

54:14that because it summarizes so

54:18succinctly.

54:19What this process is about

54:19in Scottsdale and where we

54:21are with this

54:21pro with this proposal today.

54:24This is a quote from the

54:24president of the homeowners

54:25association at solitude.

54:27Shay has been transparent.

54:32And solutions oriented and we

54:32appreciate their participation.

54:39We hope this plan

54:39I'm can go to the highlighted

54:41at the bottom, gets

54:41final approval and is put into

54:42motion. But

54:42I wanna read what's in between.

54:43We hope this plan, which now

54:44includes the proposed traffic

54:48solution.

54:50The necessary access for the

54:50lift station.

54:50Decommissioning. That's an

54:54internal issue for them, but

54:54works. We're

54:54assisting them with.

54:55And the respectful aesthetics

54:55between the two communities.

54:58There have been times,

54:58and there will be times for

55:04new members.

55:06When there are parade

55:06of neighbors up here that that

55:08say we've been disrespected.

55:08You've not

55:08paid attention. You've not

55:11listened to

55:11us. You've you are not provid.

55:14Providing any type of buffer

55:14between your use and our

55:16use. We did simulations for

55:16these neighbors

55:19that showed before

55:19and after we

55:19worked with them. Very careful.

55:20Carefully. And

55:20it's great to hear them say.

55:25Respectful aesthetics between

55:25the two communities

55:25now, their request for

55:28you, which they make

55:29on their own when they speak,

55:30but they have it in this email.

55:30They hope this plan

55:30gets final approval and is put

55:34into motion.

55:35Now, the first step

55:35in that process is in your

55:37lap. It's

55:37in your hands this evening.

55:43And that is to make a

55:43recommendation for approval to

55:46the city council to

55:46make this change with all the

55:49benefits we've.

55:49Identified.

55:49We hope that we have earned.

55:52That support

55:52from you with this proposal.

55:54Acting chair. I'm happy

55:54to answer questions now. And I

55:56know usually traditionally.

55:57Acting chair and commissioners.

55:57You typically wait until after.

56:02Council or, I mean, after

56:02neighborhood

56:02comments and public comment,

56:06but whatever the pleasure of

56:06the commission is, I'm happy

56:09to do.

56:09Thank you, Mr. Barry.

56:13I don't know. Do we

56:13have any questions right now

56:14for, for Mr. Perry?

56:21We can go ahead and

56:21move on to public comments,

56:23commissioner Gonzalez. If we get

56:23direct public comment to the

56:26lectern on the other side of.

56:27The room. Yes, sir. Thank

56:27you. On the opposite side.

56:28I think that the first

56:29person is Ryan Orth worth.

56:35Could you enunciate

56:35your last name for me? Born T

56:41H. Thank you, sir.

56:42Well, thank you for

56:42the opportunity to speak today.

56:48I'm not opposed to developing

56:48this property. My concern and

56:51I live.

56:52Across the Pima road

56:52in the Alta Sonora community.

57:00My concern is whether

57:0077 homes with lots of small

57:02as 26,000 square feet are

57:02appropriate for

57:03this environmentally sensitive

57:06location.

57:06There are

57:06really two issues open.

57:10Space and traffic first, the

57:10NAOs figures used to establish

57:13a project's principle benefit.

57:15Need to be reconciled.

57:15And we heard that from the

57:18council at

57:18Shay's council a minute ago.

57:20The report says

57:2021.94 acres are required in 20.

57:243.9 acres are provided

57:24about 9% above the requirement.

57:31The applicant claims that

57:31approximately

57:3430% more by using a

57:34lower requirement after

57:34applying a drainage credit.

57:36The council and the public

57:36deserve one clear calculation.

57:44Showing the requirement, all

57:44credits and

57:44any overlap among NAOs

57:47drainage easements

57:47in the scenic corridor.

57:51Also about 14.4.

57:54Acres 60% of the NAOs.

57:56NAOs would be located on private

57:56residential lots. And over

57:59time, these areas

57:59may face pressure from pools.

58:01Pools walls, grading,

58:01landscaping, expanded backyards.

58:08Backyards. And if they count

58:08as permanent open space, they

58:10need to, they need clear

58:10boundaries, homeowners,

58:10disclosures, and meaningful

58:14enforcement.

58:14We should also

58:14know how much of the NAOs will

58:15remain undisturbed,

58:17native desert.

58:18And how much will be

58:18re-vegetated

58:18or used for drainage.

58:22These areas do not provide

58:22the same environmental value.

58:25Traffic is the other major.

58:29Concern the development

58:29is expected to generate 887.

58:35Weekday trips, 714 more daily

58:35trips than

58:35the development allowed

58:39under the current zoning.

58:41This matters because the city

58:41recently

58:41made a major investment

58:44in widening Pima road.

58:44And building the regional

58:45drainage facility, the proposal.

58:48Says access points were planned

58:48during those improvements.

58:53But what level of development

58:53did the city assume? 19

58:55homes? The proposed 77.

58:5798 allowed

58:58under R 1 35 or something else.

59:05The added lane may keep

59:05traffic moving, but it does

59:08not necessarily

59:08make entering Pima road easier.

59:11The applicant's own study

59:11projects,

59:11level of service F for

59:13residents turning

59:13from the Southern driveway.

59:15During the morning and evening

59:15peak hours that could cause

59:17long delays, risky gap taking.

59:20U-turns or traffic shifting

59:20to happy valley road or nearby

59:25routes.

59:26Routes and so taken together,

59:26these concerns

59:28suggests that this

59:28plan is trying to

59:28place too many homes on this

59:30property.

59:32A reasonable compromise would

59:32require lots of at least one

59:34acre 43,560 square feet.

59:38Larger laps would mean fewer

59:38trips, more room to preserve

59:40washes in native desert.

59:42Better separation from protected

59:42NAOs and a development pattern.

59:45More consistent with

59:45the area's rural character.

59:51I respectfully asked the

59:51commission not to approve the R

59:531 35 proposal as presented.

59:57Please direct the applicant

59:57to return with one acre or

59:59larger lots enforceable,

59:59open space protections.

1:00:02And traffic improvements based

1:00:02on the actual

1:00:05design assumptions of

1:00:05the completed Pima road project.

1:00:06Thank thank you for your time.

1:00:10Thank you, Ryan.

1:00:18Next

1:00:34You have three minutes,

1:00:35sir. Thank you. Thank you very

1:00:37much. And nice to meet you.

1:00:38All, and I appreciate

1:00:38the opportunity to be able to

1:00:44address the council.

1:00:45You heard a lot from

1:00:45Shay when they were talking

1:00:48about the

1:00:48development of that community.

1:00:50And the submission. Well, we

1:00:50learned about it through the

1:00:54normal process.

1:00:54That Scottsdale

1:00:54uses where you get a postcard.

1:00:57In the mail saying something's

1:00:59going on around you.

1:01:00And if you

1:01:00want to attend or meet.

1:01:02Here's your

1:01:04project manager? Well,

1:01:11I'm with solitude. My name

1:01:11is Adam Warner and I'm the

1:01:13president of the

1:01:13solitude property association.

1:01:15Property owners association

1:01:15and myself and Richard.

1:01:20A fellow board member met

1:01:20with Jeff Barnes to talk about.

1:01:23Exactly what was going

1:01:24to happen with that particular.

1:01:27Piece of land

1:01:27and that was in April of this

1:01:31year.

1:01:33And I don't think that

1:01:33anybody in the solitude or

1:01:37frankly.

1:01:37In the, in

1:01:37the entire neighborhood.

1:01:39Were surprised that there

1:01:39was going to be a development,

1:01:41a residential.

1:01:41Development

1:01:42being put out forward.

1:01:43For that particular lot.

1:01:48But how is it

1:01:48gonna be handled? Would it fit

1:01:51within the community?

1:01:52And frankly, I think one

1:01:52of the biggest concerns that

1:01:54we had was.

1:01:56Traffic congestion.

1:01:57And how is

1:01:57traffic gonna be managed?

1:01:59Managed with an additional

1:02:07development right at that

1:02:07intersection

1:02:07of happy valley and PMA

1:02:10and how that impacted

1:02:11the solitude folks really.

1:02:13Was around the fact that.

1:02:14Without a shade development

1:02:15without any

1:02:15development right there at

1:02:18that land.

1:02:18It was a very

1:02:18difficult for us to exit our

1:02:20property.

1:02:22And turn left.

1:02:23And it was

1:02:25difficult even though.

1:02:25Happy valley had just been.

1:02:32A few years earlier.

1:02:32Redone all the

1:02:32way to the other side of the

1:02:37McDonald mountains.

1:02:38Mountains, but it became

1:02:38challenging for

1:02:38the solitude residents because

1:02:42it was difficult to.

1:02:46Get around, make

1:02:46a left out because of the bend

1:02:49in happy valley road. And

1:02:49we couldn't see the oncoming

1:02:52traffic.

1:02:52So it was

1:02:52kind of harrowing to leave.

1:02:54When we brought some

1:02:54of these and other concerns to.

1:02:57Shay and their representatives.

1:02:59Representatives, they didn't

1:02:59say, well,

1:02:59that's what comes with.

1:03:04Additional homes

1:03:04and, and additional residents.

1:03:08Residents, they acted,

1:03:08they took all of our concerns.

1:03:12Concerns and they acted

1:03:12on every single one of 'em

1:03:16including.

1:03:16Not only

1:03:16proposing changes to traffic.

1:03:22Patterns, but also

1:03:27saying and we'll fund those

1:03:27changes. Not we're, we're not

1:03:29gonna ask Scottsdale

1:03:29to do that or solitude to do

1:03:32that, but they stepped up and.

1:03:33Did it things like we have a.

1:03:34A lift station for sewage.

1:03:36To go to

1:03:36that's built in our community.

1:03:40Because it was too difficult

1:03:40with the prior ownership to

1:03:44be able to run.

1:03:44Straight down through that

1:03:44land. Mr. Warner? Yes. Can you.

1:03:51You're a little bit over

1:03:51your three minutes. I'll let

1:03:52you go ahead and wind

1:03:52up. Okay. Right now. Thank

1:03:55you, sir. Okay. Sure.

1:03:55So, what we've

1:03:55found is that Shea is a very

1:03:57candid.

1:03:58Very solutions oriented,

1:03:58very transparent company.

1:04:01That wants

1:04:02to be a good neighbor.

1:04:04And has gone, frankly, I think.

1:04:08We're very, very happily

1:04:08and pleasantly surprised.

1:04:11At the accommodations

1:04:11that they were willing to make.

1:04:13So that their neighbors

1:04:16neighbors

1:04:16felt like their neighborhood.

1:04:22Was being accreted.

1:04:22Rather than taken away from.

1:04:26Very good. Thank you, sir.

1:04:26Appreciate your time. Thank.

1:04:32Chase Weiss.

1:04:39How's it going? My name is

1:04:39chase Weissenborn. Thank you

1:04:40guys for your time today.

1:04:47I'd just like to say, as

1:04:47a proud Scottsdale resident,

1:04:49I am fully in support

1:04:49of this project that Shea

1:04:51Holmes is putting forward.

1:04:52And I'd like

1:04:52to add that Shea Holmes.

1:04:54Has an outstanding reputation.

1:04:59And for building beautiful high

1:04:59quality homes

1:04:59and creating communities

1:05:02that we're

1:05:02all proud to be a part of.

1:05:03Thank you guys.

1:05:04Thank you, sir.

1:05:09Next is Sulton.

1:05:12Excuse me.

1:05:13So rinky. Thank you, sir.

1:05:24Good. Just making

1:05:28Start by saying thank you

1:05:28guys. I appreciate your time.

1:05:34I am.

1:05:35Also, just like chase

1:05:35said in full support of Shea's.

1:05:39Shea's motion to

1:05:43change and rezone.

1:05:43I think that it's good for the

1:05:46community.

1:05:49They have the ability.

1:05:49In their original zoning

1:05:49plans to do the full 95,

1:05:52some odd

1:05:52homes. I think that that.

1:05:56That being changed

1:05:56to 77 is great. And it shows

1:05:59their accretive

1:05:59to the community.

1:06:02And not trying to

1:06:02you know,

1:06:02overbuild in that area.

1:06:06Like the first gentleman

1:06:06said it is a very nice

1:06:09high-end area.

1:06:15And with Shea being able

1:06:15to deliver three to 5 million

1:06:17homes will only support

1:06:17the area itself financially.

1:06:21But also with the commercial

1:06:24behind it, just south.

1:06:24They will also be a benefit to.

1:06:28The area

1:06:28and also,

1:06:28I want to point out with.

1:06:32With that land being

1:06:32vacant, as long as it has,

1:06:34I've lived.

1:06:38In Scottsdale for the

1:06:38last 26 years, I've driven by

1:06:39that piece many, many

1:06:40times. I'm glad that it's not

1:06:42gonna be.

1:06:42Zoned for

1:06:42more commercial, which would.

1:06:44You know,

1:06:44increase traffic in that area.

1:06:48Significantly more.

1:06:50Than what's gonna be

1:06:50going on with the residential.

1:06:53Development. So I just want to.

1:06:58Show my support for

1:06:58the rezoning and Shay itself.

1:07:01Thank you. Thank

1:07:01you very much for your time.

1:07:09Commissioner Gonzalez. My

1:07:09understanding that commissioner

1:07:12Reid just joined us

1:07:12at 6:06 PM. Thank

1:07:12you. Very good. Thank you, sir.

1:07:15We wanna meet.

1:07:19Connor Allen.

1:07:25Hello everyone. My name's Connor

1:07:25Allen. I

1:07:25appreciate the opportunity

1:07:30to speak tonight.

1:07:30Like the

1:07:30last couple gentlemen, I am.

1:07:33Putting my support behind the

1:07:33project being passed as well.

1:07:36As a Scottsdale resident.

1:07:39Just as the

1:07:39last two gentlemen were.

1:07:44I have seen the community

1:07:45in the city grow over

1:07:50the last.

1:07:51Five years, very significantly.

1:07:51And I would like to see

1:07:54that continue to

1:07:54happen. And as someone who's.

1:07:55Who's looking to potentially

1:07:55purchase a home up in that

1:07:58area.

1:07:58I don't think that there's

1:07:58a better candidate to develop

1:08:05the.

1:08:05Land then SHA

1:08:05homes would be, I've been to a

1:08:07couple of their communities.

1:08:07And I think that they do

1:08:09a.

1:08:09Incredible job as far as.

1:08:13Just building nice communities

1:08:13and lovely homes. And I thought

1:08:20the.

1:08:21Potential water saving was

1:08:21extremely

1:08:21important as well as that's

1:08:25obviously been a hot

1:08:25topic in Arizona over the last.

1:08:28Decade or so

1:08:28so, yes,

1:08:28I am voting in support as well.

1:08:31Thank you.

1:08:31Very good. Thank you, sir.

1:08:35Our next is Joaquin.

1:08:40Garcia.

1:08:45I guess he's

1:08:46he's not here right

1:08:46now. So, and then the case,

1:08:50that was our last one.

1:08:51Let's go

1:08:51ahead and move to Mr. Berry.

1:09:03Can all right now we

1:09:03got it. Action chair, Gonzalez.

1:09:06Commissioners,

1:09:06including commissioner Reid.

1:09:11I, I obviously don't have

1:09:11any comment on the support.

1:09:17We appreciate that.

1:09:17I do want to

1:09:17thank Mr. Orth for coming down

1:09:19today or this

1:09:19evening and, and appearing.

1:09:24And I know you're heavily

1:09:24involved in

1:09:25your homeowner's association

1:09:27and your wife is, and

1:09:27there'll be others that, that

1:09:29are involved.

1:09:29We'll be getting involved.

1:09:30So we wanna extend

1:09:30to you the same approach that

1:09:31we demonstrated with solitude.

1:09:33To at least get together and.

1:09:35Listen, very carefully

1:09:35to your community's concerns.

1:09:43Concerns and see if there's

1:09:43exchange

1:09:43of information that would

1:09:45result in better analysis

1:09:46by both us and by your

1:09:49neighborhood as well. And if.

1:09:52There's opportunities. We'd

1:09:52certainly like

1:09:52to take advantage of that,

1:09:53but we'll have someone from

1:09:53technical

1:09:53solutions. I think you

1:09:56have a card from Prescott.

1:09:58This evening, you have my card.

1:09:58To arrange

1:09:59to try and get that done soon.

1:10:05To explore that and to

1:10:05listen more carefully to your

1:10:08concerns and update you

1:10:08on what we're doing as well.

1:10:09So thank you very

1:10:09much for taking the time I

1:10:11get.

1:10:11Paid all of you don't

1:10:11so I would've wished speaking

1:10:13of that, I would've wished you

1:10:13would've talked longer, but

1:10:18okay.

1:10:19Acting chair, Gonzalez members

1:10:19of the commission.

1:10:23No other comments

1:10:23from me. Happy to answer any

1:10:23questions from the commission.

1:10:26Certainly thank you,

1:10:26Mr. Murray. I think we have a

1:10:28few questions

1:10:28here from the commissioners.

1:10:31Thank you.

1:10:33Mr. Berry.

1:10:36I was an excellent presentation,

1:10:38but I do have one

1:10:38question for clarification.

1:10:40One of the homeowners

1:10:40brought up a question that I.

1:10:47Wanna have clarified for

1:10:47the record. And that is that

1:10:49if someone decides

1:10:49to build a pool in an NAOs.

1:10:51NAOs they have to, redesignate

1:10:52an additional part of their

1:10:58land.

1:11:00For NAOs. Is that cons,

1:11:00is that true? Acting chair

1:11:03and commissioner joiner? That is

1:11:03absolutely

1:11:03correct. And in order

1:11:08to.

1:11:08Build that pool.

1:11:08You have to get a permit from

1:11:09the city and you've

1:11:09gotta go down to the city

1:11:11and demonstrate to them that

1:11:11you're not building or doing

1:11:13anything inside that.

1:11:13N NAOs area. Yeah.

1:11:14So it's a, it's a good

1:11:14concern. And there's certainly

1:11:18been examples.

1:11:23Examples, Mr. Orth, where

1:11:23neighbors

1:11:23or neighborhoods and HOAs have

1:11:27not paid attention to that.

1:11:27And it's become a problem.

1:11:27And staff's

1:11:27aware of that as well.

1:11:27So we understand that, but

1:11:27I think that the enforcement

1:11:33process.

1:11:35Has come a long way

1:11:35since then. So, but anyway,

1:11:36we'll happy to discuss, but yes,

1:11:36commissioner

1:11:36joiner. Absolutely. Correct.

1:11:38That's all my questions. I'll

1:11:38make comments later after the

1:11:40rest of.

1:11:42The commission speaks.

1:11:42Speaks. Very good. Anybody else

1:11:42has questions? Commissioners?

1:11:48Your sir.

1:11:49Doug. Yeah. Thank you, Mr.

1:11:49Berry. Appreciate

1:11:52your presentation.

1:11:52Question along pier road.

1:11:55What kind

1:11:55of screening is provided.

1:11:58Provided besides the 200 or the.

1:12:02The setback.

1:12:02Between the

1:12:02community and the roadway.

1:12:06Acting chair,

1:12:06Gonzalez, commissioner Craig.

1:12:14It's not been decided

1:12:14yet, but we are looking at

1:12:16alternatives which could include

1:12:16some type

1:12:16of perimeter wall that

1:12:20would, that would.

1:12:20Meet the standards

1:12:20and requirements of ESLO.

1:12:26So, but that's one of

1:12:26the things that we're, we're

1:12:27considering we haven't made

1:12:28that decision yet in terms of

1:12:30the Pima

1:12:30road frontage. Yeah. Even.

1:12:32Like, if you all

1:12:32I don't think necessarily

1:12:33a solid builder

1:12:34wall perimeter wall.

1:12:35Would not be necessarily

1:12:39required.

1:12:40Required, but

1:12:40just wondering what kind of.

1:12:44Almost thinking more for the.

1:12:48Homeowners.

1:12:48Homeowners then for the travel.

1:12:56Acting chair, Gonzalez

1:12:56commissioner, Greg Craig.

1:12:56It's interesting because Mr.

1:13:01ORs neighborhood.

1:13:01Work very hard

1:13:01with the city collaboratively.

1:13:04To help convince

1:13:06the city to spend.

1:13:10Significant dollars to put in

1:13:10that sound wall directly across

1:13:13the road

1:13:13from our, from our project.

1:13:16So, and part of

1:13:16that neighbor, his

1:13:16neighborhood's concerns was

1:13:16exactly what you've described

1:13:19was noise.

1:13:21From the expanded

1:13:22Pima road. So we just

1:13:22haven't gotten that far yet.

1:13:29We would like

1:13:29to see if we have a project

1:13:30before we spend

1:13:30that, that money. So thank you.

1:13:36Thank you, Mr. Gray,

1:13:36anybody else? I have a few

1:13:38questions.

1:13:38If I could, if anybody.

1:13:40What are the

1:13:40questions I had, sir, is that.

1:13:45Is the, the Southern most

1:13:45entrance point off of Pima.

1:13:49That drive that comes in.

1:13:49Commissioner Gonzalez. Yes.

1:13:55Is, is that an access

1:13:55for the fire department to

1:13:59come in that way too?

1:13:59Acting chair Gonzalez. Yes.

1:14:03Okay. And

1:14:03then is, is that access.

1:14:08Gonna be used

1:14:08as a normal access or is it

1:14:10for emergency purpose only, or.

1:14:14What's usage then I guess,

1:14:14acting chair, Gonzalez. It will

1:14:17be full access.

1:14:17For fire department,

1:14:17public, any public safety.

1:14:20Visitors guests residents.

1:14:26Residents and others.

1:14:27Will that

1:14:27be, are you planning on.

1:14:34Having like a automatic that

1:14:34just focuses

1:14:38on vehicles weaving

1:14:38or do the

1:14:38vehicles have to be marked.

1:14:39To get, get in and, and.

1:14:42And leave that space.

1:14:42Great question. Acting

1:14:42chair, Gonzalez don't know.

1:14:50We're not sure about

1:14:50the wall yet either and the

1:14:53mechanics of the gate,

1:14:53but I think would want to

1:14:55use latest

1:14:55and greatest technology.

1:14:56To allow us to do that.

1:14:59So, you know, by the

1:14:59time, if this gets approved,

1:15:00by the time it's built,

1:15:00it's probably two to three

1:15:05years out.

1:15:05Before this, this is open

1:15:05and there could be significant

1:15:07changes in technology

1:15:07when it comes to that. But.

1:15:09I dunno if I've addressed

1:15:09your question or not chair

1:15:12Gonzalez.

1:15:12Well, I guess

1:15:12maybe one thing I would ask is.

1:15:16The gate, the gate,

1:15:16that's gonna be in that, in

1:15:18that, on that placement.

1:15:23Do you know how, what

1:15:23the basic measurement would be

1:15:26from that

1:15:26gate to the, to Pima road.

1:15:29I will, I don't

1:15:29know if our land planner could

1:15:31take a look

1:15:31at that and, and estimate that.

1:15:33Or if Michelle

1:15:34could do that, but.

1:15:34What I do know is whatever.

1:15:37That requirement is alre.

1:15:37What you see on your plans.

1:15:42Plans already incorporates the

1:15:42fire department's

1:15:42requirements and the city

1:15:45planning and traffic.

1:15:49Staffs requirements. So they,

1:15:49as you know, they've got very

1:15:51specific requirements.

1:15:51Is that stacking distance?

1:15:54And also the width

1:15:54of the gates, how they're open

1:15:56by public safety,

1:15:56all those types of things.

1:15:57Acting chair,

1:15:57Gonzalez hot off the press.

1:16:06Approximately 150 feet from P.

1:16:06Okay. Very good. I appreciate

1:16:10that. And then

1:16:10the front entrance gate that.

1:16:13Comes off of the

1:16:13mountain not mountain view,

1:16:13but the main entrance gate.

1:16:16Does it have

1:16:16happy? Yeah. Happy valley.

1:16:21Does

1:16:24how do you know approximately

1:16:24is that about the same

1:16:27proximity measurement wise?

1:16:30As far as what

1:16:30the entrance would be or load

1:16:31factor would

1:16:31be as far as how many cars or

1:16:34anything.

1:16:34To that nature, chairman

1:16:34Gonzalez

1:16:34members of the commission.

1:16:36Just to clarify our major.

1:16:41Access our main access. Our

1:16:41primary access is the Southern

1:16:43one on Pima road.

1:16:43So that's our,

1:16:43our that's our main access.

1:16:48We really wanted to reduce

1:16:48as much as possible, the

1:16:49traffic onto happy valley.

1:16:54Again, in conjunction with

1:16:54solitude

1:16:54and also recognizing that that

1:16:59intersection can.

1:16:59Sometimes get complicated. So

1:16:59our major access and primary.

1:17:05Access signage, all

1:17:05that will be on that access on

1:17:11the south closest to.

1:17:11To the shopping center, but yes,

1:17:11it's 150 approximately 150

1:17:15feet as well

1:17:16for the happy valley.

1:17:16Gate. Very good. And then.

1:17:21Do you have a

1:17:21design or anything on, on that

1:17:23gate yet? Or have

1:17:23you just kind of left that

1:17:25up?

1:17:25Right now,

1:17:25as far as the application,

1:17:29chair Gonzalez members of the

1:17:29commission.

1:17:31We have not designed

1:17:32the gate yet.

1:17:32Okay. Very good. Well, that

1:17:33ends my questions. Thank you,

1:17:36sir.

1:17:36Anybody else? I have, I have

1:17:36one quick question. Certainly.

1:17:39Are there.

1:17:41Are there drainage ways

1:17:41on the site? Are there any.

1:17:44Retained washes that are

1:17:44happening on the site. Like a

1:17:464 0 4.

1:17:47Based wash basins that

1:17:47are being retained or is it

1:17:50all.

1:17:50Modified drainage

1:17:50pathways through the city.

1:17:58Chair Gonzalez commissioner

1:17:58brand. Unfortunately,

1:18:02I don't have my civil

1:18:02engineer with us this evening,

1:18:02but my understanding is there

1:18:04are no four. Oh.

1:18:04Four.

1:18:04Washes that that

1:18:04were impacting now, please.

1:18:10I didn't even

1:18:10stay at a, at a holiday and

1:18:11express to, to give you

1:18:11any idea whether that's valid

1:18:13or not.

1:18:14But just from remembering,

1:18:14I think that is the case.

1:18:21We can certainly give

1:18:21you an, an answer after this

1:18:25evening, if that, if that helps.

1:18:29No, that's fine.

1:18:29I was just in looking at the

1:18:30site plan. It appears like

1:18:30the, the site planning and

1:18:33the placing of the lots

1:18:33has been responsive to natural

1:18:33area wash.

1:18:33Corridors. And I didn't know

1:18:33if those were designated or

1:18:37not.

1:18:37But chair, acting chair,

1:18:37Gonzalez, commissioner brand.

1:18:45Our land planner on this

1:18:45is SWAK partners. Jeff den,

1:18:47Zach and Jeff, and SWAK are

1:18:47extremely familiar with north.

1:18:52Scottsdale residential

1:18:52development, all development.

1:18:54And this really is a very.

1:18:56Well done design plan. That's

1:18:56been very sensitive and attuned

1:18:59to.

1:18:59Exactly. What

1:18:59you, what you've described.

1:19:05Okay. Thank you, Mr. Very

1:19:05anybody else have any questions?

1:19:11Questions. I have a few

1:19:11comments. Sure. Go ahead. Thank

1:19:15you.

1:19:16Thank you, Mr. Berry, first

1:19:16of all, I'm thrilled that

1:19:18Shea is involved

1:19:20in this project.

1:19:23I'm I think on

1:19:23the commission, I live in that

1:19:25neighborhood and I

1:19:25think I'm the only one that I

1:19:27live the closest to it.

1:19:30And I have suffered

1:19:30through it was gonna be a

1:19:32retirement community. It was

1:19:32gonna be

1:19:32apartments. Then it was

1:19:34gonna be commercial

1:19:34all the way up and down Pima

1:19:35road.

1:19:35So when I

1:19:35finally got the packet,

1:19:40my concern.

1:19:40Continued to be traffic,

1:19:40just like everybody else's was.

1:19:42So I am thrilled with the.

1:19:50Ingress and egress that has

1:19:50been provided and that Shea

1:19:52is actually paying

1:19:52for it. I think that speaks.

1:19:54Speaks very highly

1:19:54of them. So with that in mind,

1:19:56I am ready to make a motion.

1:20:02I'd like to

1:20:02recommend a motion for request.

1:20:10By owners of, for a zoning

1:20:10district map amendment from

1:20:13single family, residential

1:20:13environmentally

1:20:14sensitive lands are 1, 1 90.

1:20:17Zoning to single family,

1:20:17residential environmentally.

1:20:20Sensitive lands zoning with

1:20:20amended development

1:20:20standards for a 77

1:20:24lot subdivision.

1:20:25On a plus or minus.

1:20:2694.8 gross acre site located.

1:20:30At the Southeast corner

1:20:30of east happy valley road and

1:20:33north Pima road.

1:20:33Staff con

1:20:33oh, they don't need that.

1:20:40And of course adding the

1:20:40stipulations

1:20:43that you alluded to

1:20:43in the presentation

1:20:45of ingress and egress.

1:20:49Egress, I'm sorry, acting chair

1:20:49and commissioner

1:20:50joiner. Mr. Curtis

1:20:55and I were just.

1:20:57Trying to make sure

1:20:57that we heard you say that

1:20:59the recommendation wasn't just a

1:20:59recommendation,

1:20:59but a recommendation for

1:21:01hopefully

1:21:01approval. Yes. Okay. Thank you.

1:21:03I'll second

1:21:03that the one thing I wanted to.

1:21:05Mention on top of everything

1:21:05else is that I've been

1:21:09familiar.

1:21:11And have tried to work

1:21:11with that property for many,

1:21:15many, many years.

1:21:15It's gone through

1:21:15a lot of different renditions.

1:21:18The the previous owner was.

1:21:25Was famous in his ability to.

1:21:30Upset some people and,

1:21:30and the neighborhood and, and.

1:21:36What I was always looking

1:21:36forward to was a development

1:21:39that would,

1:21:39the neighbors would support.

1:21:40And it sounds like

1:21:40we are getting that support.

1:21:42So I would

1:21:42like the second that motion.

1:21:50Coffee vote. I'm just checking

1:21:51everybody first. I'm gonna

1:21:54call for a vote.

1:21:54Commissioner Gonzalez. Yes.

1:21:57Commissioner

1:21:57Joyner. Yes. Commissioner Reed.

1:22:05Yeah. Commissioner Drake? Yes.

1:22:05Commissioner brand.

1:22:05Yes. Commissioner Craig. Yes.

1:22:10Commissioner

1:22:10McCurdy. Yes. Motion passes.

1:22:12Passes. Thank

1:22:12you. Thank you all very much.

1:22:13Thank you for your time.

1:22:30You'll the election. Yeah.

1:22:33I just wanted

1:22:33to see if anybody else.

1:22:38Okay, we're gonna have the

1:22:38election for the officers now.

1:22:47Yeah, commissioner Gonzalez

1:22:47members of the commission.

1:22:52We have both.

1:22:53Officer positions open.

1:22:57Typically the chair goes

1:22:57first and then the vice chair.

1:22:59So.

1:22:59You could

1:22:59open it up for nominations.

1:23:02And then

1:23:02gather those nominations.

1:23:05And then you

1:23:05could close those nominations.

1:23:08And call

1:23:08for a vote on each nomination.

1:23:13Very good. I I'd like to open.

1:23:15Now for the nominations.

1:23:20Yes, I would,

1:23:20I would like to nominate.

1:23:22Nominate joiner for the chair.

1:23:27Chair. Very good.

1:23:34Well, I, I also would like

1:23:34to nominate Michal Joyner,

1:23:37and I prepared

1:23:37a statement. If I may go ahead.

1:23:41It is my honor to nominate

1:23:41commissioner Michal, Joyner to

1:23:44serve as the next chair of

1:23:44Scottsdale planning commission.

1:23:46Throughout

1:23:46her many years of service.

1:23:50Both at our wider Arizona

1:23:50community and in our city

1:23:54of Scottsdale.

1:23:56Commissioner joiner has provided

1:23:56steady, thoughtful leadership.

1:23:59She brings experience

1:24:01fairness.

1:24:01And a deep respect for the

1:24:01residents and applicants who

1:24:03come before this commission.

1:24:04Those are exact

1:24:05qualities we need in the chair.

1:24:13And I believe she

1:24:13is the right person to lead

1:24:14us in this next term. Therefore,

1:24:14I firm formally nominate

1:24:19commissioner.

1:24:19Joiner as chair of the

1:24:19Scottsdale planning commission.

1:24:23Very good. Anybody else have

1:24:23any recommendations or I, I

1:24:26concur.

1:24:28Very good.

1:24:31I would like

1:24:31to, I'd also write to nominate.

1:24:38Nominate her. She is.

1:24:39Been a very good asset

1:24:39for the city volunteer program.

1:24:43As such as

1:24:43this commission and for the.

1:24:48Dr review board.

1:24:48And I think she's put in the

1:24:51time and the.

1:24:52Ability and

1:24:52the education to perform.

1:24:58This job. So in

1:24:58other words, I think that she

1:25:01would do a very good job.

1:25:04Thank you.

1:25:04You have to call for a vote.

1:25:06I'm just wanna make sure.

1:25:06yep. I'll call for a vote.

1:25:10Commissioner Gonzalez.

1:25:10Yes. Commissioner joiner.

1:25:12Yes, commissioner Reid.

1:25:20Yes. Commissioner Drake? Yes.

1:25:20Commissioner brand?

1:25:20Yes. Commissioner Craig. Yes.

1:25:24Commissioner McCurdy.

1:25:24Yes. Motion passes. Thank you.

1:25:26I did not

1:25:26pay him for that speech.

1:25:27but I'm

1:25:27very honored. Thank you.

1:25:30Very good. Thank

1:25:30you very much. Now we go for

1:25:33this second nomination.

1:25:37I'd like to nominate Jeff

1:25:37brand as vice chair, please.

1:25:45I'll second. It.

1:25:45David, do you have any.

1:25:47Anything

1:25:47to say one way or another.

1:25:52See on the phone? Yes. Oh, okay.

1:25:56Was that

1:25:56a yes, I'm sorry. I didn't.

1:26:00Didn't. Yeah. Thank you. Okay.

1:26:00Very good. Thank you, David.

1:26:05I'd like to

1:26:11go with Jeff also. I think

1:26:11he's very knowledgeable there

1:26:14again, he

1:26:14has a lot of energy, a lot of

1:26:19ability.

1:26:19He's he's, he's volunteered

1:26:21for a lot of, lot of

1:26:23things. He's served the

1:26:23city very well, I think. And

1:26:25I think.

1:26:25You know, he brings on an added.

1:26:27Ability of being

1:26:27an architect. And I think he.

1:26:31Understands the, the problems

1:26:31that we have brought forward to

1:26:35us.

1:26:35So I, I didn't

1:26:35now I'm gonna hated him also.

1:26:38Anybody else

1:26:40have any questions or.

1:26:41Comments.

1:26:44Very good.

1:26:44Might as well have a roll call.

1:26:50Commissioner Gonzalez. Yes.

1:26:50Commissioner Joyner proudly.

1:26:50Yes. Commissioner Reeb.

1:26:54Yes. Commissioner Drake. Yes.

1:26:55Commissioner

1:26:55brand. Yes. Commissioner Craig.

1:27:00Hmm. Yes.

1:27:02Commissioner McCurdy. Yes.

1:27:02Motion passes.

1:27:02Thank you. Thank you very

1:27:06much.

1:27:06I think that covers everything.

1:27:14Hopefully you, you haven't had

1:27:14too much tedium through this.

1:27:18This is kind of

1:27:18a new situation for me today.

1:27:21But I appreciate your

1:27:21time and just go ahead and

1:27:23end.

1:27:23This meeting, we'll have

1:27:23a roll call, motion to adjourn.

1:27:31Adjourn. Yes.

1:27:31you don't need a, a vote to

1:27:33you. Don't need oh, that's

1:27:34to adjourn, right? Okay. Very

1:27:37good.

1:27:37Well adjourn the

1:27:37meeting then. Thank you, sir.

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