2026-10-21 - City Council Formal Meeting

Summary

Based on auto-generated captions; names and details may be misheard. The captions start mid-way through an announcement.

Time on topic (from transcript timestamps; approximate, includes side talk):

Topic Minutes Share
Rio Salado District Policy Plan General Plan Amendments 38 32%
Rezoning Z-24-26-7 (SWC SR 202 & Lower Buckeye Road PUD) 15 13%
First Responders Comprehensive Addiction Act Grant 10 8%
Safe Outdoor Space Shower Water Temperature Petition 6 5%
Menlo Digital Data Center in Ahwatukee 5 4%
Judge Hudson Appointment Ratification 3 3%
Public Records Request Response Times 2 2%
2023 General Obligation Bond Program Implementation 2 2%
Gaming grants (S-53285, S-53286) 2 1%
Executive Session Rules Petitions 2 1%
Other business 33 28%
  • Wednesday, October 21, 2026.
  • The recording opens with about 10 minutes that are not part of the meeting (a state litter-cleanup announcement, a water department employee video and a street-sign ceremony honoring a retired basketball star); that stretch is not counted.
  • The formal meeting was called to order at the 13:35 mark and adjourned at about 2:07:52 on the recording.
  • The Mayor presided; eight members answered the roll and every recorded vote below was 8-0 (Guardado did not answer the roll call).

Judge Hudson Appointment Ratification

20:41-23:38

  • Item 66 asked the council to ratify the appointment of Judge Hudson (the office is not named in the captions). The agenda said the ratification was needed because of possible open meeting law concerns about a May 12 executive session.
  • One speaker, representing the group Good Goat, said the comment was about process rather than the appointee. He argued state law requires a detailed written description of the earlier action and deliberations at least 72 hours before ratification, and that the city's notice only gave the date. He also said the city attorney had declined to release related records.
  • No council discussion; passed 8-0.

Gaming grants (S-53285, S-53286)

23:56-25:37

  • Item 75 approved a gaming grant from the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community. One resident thanked the tribal communities for the grants.
  • Mayor Gallego said the funds support a museum's programming and nonprofit partners including the Arizona Humane Society and housing groups. Passed 8-0.

First Responders Comprehensive Addiction Act Grant

29:23-38:55

  • Item 91 authorized, retroactively, applying for and accepting a federal first responder addiction grant to continue an overdose follow-up program whose earlier grant ended September 30. Police said that after officers revive someone with naloxone, a nonprofit peer navigator reaches the person within about two hours.
  • Hernandez asked how it works, how the money is split (most goes to the nonprofit), and whether the council could get a one-year update (yes). She said she supports the program but remains concerned about asking officers to take on more crisis response, and asked to expand overdose-reversal training to other city staff.
  • Vice Mayor Hodge Washington asked that data be shared with the Office of Public Health; police said it already is, with a software purchase for coordination in the grant. Passed 8-0.

2023 General Obligation Bond Program Implementation

38:58-41:01

  • Items 105 and 106 were taken together: construction of the new Cactus Park police precinct and architectural design for Fire Station 51 near 43rd Avenue and Dove Valley Road (six apparatus bays). O'Brien thanked voters for the bond approval. Passed 8-0.

Rio Salado District Policy Plan General Plan Amendments

41:01-1:18:50

  • Items 121 and 122: the Rio Salado District Policy Plan and companion major General Plan land use amendments for about 7 square miles south of downtown. The Mayor framed it as advancing Rio Reimagined, the regional effort for the Salt River corridor.
  • Enrique Bohorquez of the Planning and Development Department said it ends three years of work with over a thousand interactions and 500 survey responses, with recommendations of approval from two village planning committees and the Planning Commission.
  • Speakers in favor included the vice chair of the Rio Reimagined nonprofit, an Arizona State University representative and South Phoenix residents. One asked that benefits reach South Phoenix and warned of a new methadone clinic nearby; another urged traffic fixes on Baseline Road; a third asked that a Latino cultural center be considered.
  • A lawyer for Cemex, which owns 26 acres in the corridor, asked whether the plan would block a special permit for short-term construction materials use. Staff said nothing in the plan precludes pursuing one; Vice Mayor Hodge Washington cautioned against giving an interpretation during public comment, and the Mayor said no interpretation was given.
  • Members stressed community involvement, anti-displacement, affordable housing and health. A councilmember representing South Phoenix (apparently Hernandez) cited a 3 to 13 year life expectancy gap; Pastor recounted her father's role in the vision and urged deeper community embedding. Both votes passed 8-0.

Rezoning Z-24-26-7 (SWC SR 202 & Lower Buckeye Road PUD)

1:19:06-1:33:46

  • Items 123 and 124 (District 7): a roughly 65-acre site rezoned to a planned unit development, about 22 acres of commercial and neighborhood services and about 43 acres of commerce park, with a condition that site plans return to the Estrella Village committee. The applicant's attorney and a principal of the development team described a change from a less desirable use after the city asked for better.
  • Hernandez thanked the developer and staff, calling it a model of partnership. A village planning committee leader (name garbled in the captions) spoke virtually in opposition, saying the plan differed from what was shown at community meetings and would put trucking beside homes.
  • Item 123 passed 8-0; item 124 (as revised, per an October 20 staff memo) passed 8-0 with a second from Stark. Hernandez moved item 123.

Safe Outdoor Space Shower Water Temperature Petition

1:33:48-1:38:57, 1:47:56-1:48:54

  • Item 125: a citizen petition about overly hot shower water at the Safe Outdoor Space. The petitioner was not present. Staff recommended denial because the issue had been fixed; the motion to approve the staff recommendation passed 8-0.
  • Homeless Solutions staff said they adjusted the water after a July complaint and have checked daily since the petition, moving to weekly. Hodge Washington asked about grievance processes; staff cited a shower attendant, grievances (including anonymous) and a November 6 town hall.
  • Later, a site resident said the heat was fixed but sealed bathrooms, shut-off sinks and broken fixtures remain.

Menlo Digital Data Center in Ahwatukee

1:40:40-1:43:31, 2:05:34-2:07:49

  • Two residents spoke in citizen comment against the 38-acre, five-building data center, citing height, noise, heat, diesel generators, power demand and a zoning history they say never allowed heavy industry. No council response.

Public Records Request Response Times

1:53:03-1:54:07, 2:04:05-2:05:28

  • Two speakers said record requests have gone unanswered for months despite new state court rules and warned of attorney-fee liability. No council response.

Executive Session Rules Petitions

1:56:25-1:58:04

  • A speaker submitted 16 citizen petitions, 14 about executive sessions, asking the city to publish its executive session rules and to vote on the petitioners' own recommendations instead of staff's.

Other business

10:48-20:41, 23:38-23:56, 25:37-29:23, 1:38:57-1:40:40, 1:43:31-1:47:56, 1:48:54-1:53:03, 1:54:07-1:56:25, 1:58:04-2:04:05

  • Invocation, Pledge led by Robinson, roll call, Spanish interpretation and public comment rules. Boards and commissions nominations were confirmed unanimously and new members sworn in.
  • Items 2 through 62 passed unanimously in one motion, with item 56 continued to the November 18 formal meeting. Items 63 through 125 passed 8-0 in a group, except those heard separately; item 118 was continued to November 4. Other ordinances, including Pay classification ordinance amendments (S-53288), were read by title with no separate discussion.
  • Item 67, a proposed annexation at 32nd Avenue and Davin Road, had a public hearing with no speakers; a vote will come at a future date.
  • Items 77 (relocating protected birds and nests, including burrowing owls), 78 (a wasted-food prevention grant) and 79 (a home-delivered meals grant) each drew one supportive resident and passed 8-0.
  • Citizen comment also covered fuel prices, red-light running, noise, the Phoenix Symphony season, jail-area conditions, mental health care, child welfare agency complaints (the Mayor and a member noted that is outside city authority), and a golf course and parks master plan complaint. Several registered speakers did not appear.

Agenda

Rezoning ordinances (Z-24-26-7 SWC SR 202 & Lower Buckeye PUD; PHO-2-26--Z-101-07-5), General Plan Amendments for the Rio Salado area (GPA-CC-SM-1-26-7-8, -2-26-7-8) and 63rd Ave/Lower Buckeye, grants and contracts, pay ordinance amendments.

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00:00Everyone in your group fills out a

00:01voluntary registration form before each

00:03cleanup.

00:04The Arizona Department of Transportation

00:06wants this to be a rewarding and safe

00:09experience for all of you. Volunteers

00:11like you make this program successful by

00:13giving your time and energy to make a

00:15positive impact on the environment. Your

00:18efforts are appreciated, very much so.

00:20Not only by ADOT, but also by the

00:22citizens of Arizona and the visitors who

00:24will enjoy a cleaner state because of

00:26your hard work.

00:27>> [music]

00:27>> So, spread the word. Arizona, keep it

00:30grand.

00:34>> [music]

00:41[music]

00:55>> Hi, my name [music] is Brian Seis. I'm a

00:57water service technician for the City of

00:59Phoenix Water Department.

01:02>> [music]

01:06>> My role as a technician is to provide

01:08excellent customer [music] service to

01:10our residents in the City of Phoenix. As

01:12a water service technician, we deal

01:15[music] with leaks, turn on turn offs of

01:19homes with customers moving [music] in

01:20and out of their residence, replacing

01:23meters,

01:24and replacing [music] stops.

01:34For me, the most rewarding part, um, I

01:36grew up in City [music] of Phoenix. I

01:38went to grade school, high school. So,

01:40for me, being able to come back and

01:41provide the service to the community

01:43that [music] I grew up in is very

01:44important to me.

01:49I believe the water [music] service

01:51technician position is important to our

01:53division because we are the first people

01:56the customer's see.

02:11>> [music]

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04:18>> Welcome everyone. We are starting the

04:22city's celebration of Diana Taurasi.

04:31In the city of Phoenix, we celebrate

04:33people in many ways and one is with

04:36street signs. For nearly a decade, fans

04:39coming here have been welcomed with a

04:41street sign bearing Diana Taurasi's

04:43name.

04:45When the sign first went up, Diana had

04:47just surpassed the great Tina Thompson

04:49to become the WNBA's all-time leading

04:53scorer.

04:56Fortunately for Phoenix and for her

04:58fans, she kept going and it is time to

05:02update the sign to recognize her

05:05incredible record scores in the city of

05:08Phoenix and the amount of

05:10baskets that she made.

05:12She's been a really important part of

05:14our city. We are so lucky that the

05:16Mercury drafted her, number one pick,

05:19and that she spent 20 seasons with us

05:22and the Phoenix Mercury becoming the

05:24most decorated Olympian in women's

05:26basketball and remaining the WNBA's

05:28all-time leading scorer.

05:35And she's not content with just

05:36greatness on the court. She's also been

05:38an important contributor to our

05:40community stepping up for parents and

05:43families, fighting for equality and

05:45more. We are so grateful to have her

05:47commitment to the city of Phoenix, and

05:49the city of Phoenix is so pleased that

05:50we can honor her with this street sign.

05:55We're looking forward to unveiling the

05:56sign which will show her current total

06:00on scoring more than 10,000 points.

06:03That number will forever mark her place

06:05in WNBA history and remind the city of

06:07the countless moments she gave us to

06:08celebrate.

06:10Diana, your legacy is something we are

06:11proud of in the city of Phoenix. Thank

06:13you.

06:17And now we'll welcome Josh Bartelstein,

06:18the CEO of the Phoenix Suns and Mercury.

06:20Thank you.

06:25>> Good morning.

06:27It's a great day to celebrate the

06:29greatest of all time.

06:31Now, people throw around that word a

06:33lot, goat,

06:34the greatest,

06:35there's only one greatest, and she

06:37happens to be standing right behind me.

06:39You can throw around the stats, a

06:41three-time champ, six gold medals, and

06:44MVP, go on and on and on,

06:47but DT was the ultimate winner. She

06:50cared about winning at the highest

06:51level, and she did that for all 20 years

06:53in the Valley. Her loyalty, what she

06:56meant to the fans, and her teammates,

06:58and her coaches, and what they mean to

07:00her, is what separates Diana Taurasi.

07:06DT, your first basket, you know what it

07:08was? Do you know what it was against?

07:10There you go. First basket, Sacramento

07:13Monarchs.

07:14Right? Last basket,

07:18WNBA Minnesota Lynx. There was all

07:20trivia to do this. Minnesota Lynx.

07:23Uh but all along the way, the points,

07:25the baskets, there were game winners,

07:27there were step backs, there were

07:29and-ones looking at the ref,

07:31but those don't capture who DT is. It's

07:34the moments and memories, and you're

07:36going to see that on Sunday when you

07:37have people crying because they know

07:39what she means to them and their family.

07:42All 10,646

07:46baskets. So, it's a privilege, it's an

07:48honor to be of the greatest, a winner, a

07:51true champion, someone who means so much

07:53to Phoenix, the one and only Diana

07:56Taurasi. I want to thank Mayor Gallego

07:58and the city for all they've done for

07:59this as well. DT, floor is yours.

08:02>> Wow, crazy.

08:06Good morning, everyone.

08:09Um first off, I'd like to thank Mayor

08:12Gallego and and the city of Phoenix. Uh

08:14this wouldn't be possible without her

08:15vision.

08:16Um

08:17you know, without her thinking this is

08:18really important for the for the city,

08:20for the Phoenix Mercury, um and and all

08:23the Phoenix um community. Josh and Matt,

08:27thank you guys so much. Um since you

08:29guys have

08:30really

08:31taken over the Phoenix organization,

08:33there's been this push to really make

08:35sure that the legacy of of this city is

08:38portrayed in and not only the the

08:40players that have played in this

08:41building, but what the city is all about

08:43and um

08:45you know, when I think of the 20 years

08:46that I I spent here, um

08:50I get really emotional cuz I came here

08:52as a little kid. I was 21. I guess

08:54that's not little, but it was in my

08:55head.

08:57And I'd never been to Phoenix before. I

08:59had no clue what the city was about. And

09:0120 years later, it mirrors all the

09:03things that I thought were important in

09:04life as a teammate,

09:06and team as a daughter, and now as a

09:08mother.

09:10Um

09:11hard-working city,

09:13a community that brings everyone

09:15together,

09:17and mirrors all the things that it takes

09:19to be a champion in life and on the

09:21court. Um and I just hope when

09:24people see that last name, it symbolizes

09:26all the things that it takes

09:29um

09:30to really make it, and that's hard work,

09:32discipline, consistency,

09:35um and not only that, a great community.

09:37This wouldn't been possible without

09:40everyone that

09:41played at the Phoenix Mercury, worked at

09:43the Phoenix Mercury, coached the Phoenix

09:44Mercury, everyone who's been, you know,

09:46part of the fabric of what this

09:47championship

09:48community means. And, uh,

09:50you know, it's it's a an amazing

10:48>> Good afternoon. Thank you for joining

10:50us. Police Chaplain Rabbi Levertov will

10:52provide an invocation in keeping with

10:54the tradition of a legislative prayer

10:56for the council. Participation is

10:57entirely voluntary. Anyone may remain

11:00seated or step outside. Rabbi, thank you

11:01so much for joining us.

11:03>> Thank you.

11:05Please join me in prayer.

11:07Almighty God, when you instructed

11:10Abraham, the father of monotheism, to

11:11leave his land, his birthplace, his

11:13family, and everything familiar and

11:15comfortable, you did not tell him

11:17exactly where he was going. You simply

11:19told him to go to the land that you

11:20would show him. You promised him great

11:22blessings, yet the journey ahead was

11:24anything but easy. Abraham followed your

11:26direction with faith and courage,

11:28leaving behind the familiar and

11:30venturing into the unknown despite the

11:31doubts and questions that surrounded

11:33him.

11:34Shortly after arriving in the promised

11:35land, a famine forced him to travel to

11:38Egypt. The very land which you had

11:40directed him was now a place of

11:42hardship. Yet, Abraham did not abandon

11:44his mission. He persevered, continued

11:46his journey, and ultimately ultimately

11:48saw your blessings begin to unfold.

11:50Almighty God, our mayor and council

11:53members have been entrusted with a godly

11:54mission. Among the seven Noahide laws

11:57given to all mankind is the

11:58responsibility to establish justice in a

12:01society governed by law.

12:03They have been elected by the people to

12:04serve our community, stepping beyond the

12:06comforts of private life to take on the

12:08responsibility of helping make our city

12:10a better place. They, too, have stepped

12:12forward into a journey filled with

12:14challenges and uncertainty.

12:16But when we are doing your work, may we

12:18have the faith to persevere knowing that

12:19with your help and blessings, our

12:21efforts will bear fruit. Bless our mayor

12:23and council members with the wisdom to

12:25recognize the right path, the courage to

12:27take it, the humility to listen to one

12:29another, and the strength to serve our

12:31community with integrity. May their

12:33efforts efforts be blessed with success,

12:35bringing greater justice, peace, and

12:37prosperity to the people of Phoenix.

12:39Watch over our dedicated city employees,

12:41first responders, and law enforcement

12:43officers, including those whose tireless

12:45work often goes unseen, yet upon whom we

12:48rely each day. Bless them and their

12:50families, along with the families of our

12:52mayor and council members with strength,

12:54protection, good health, and the

12:55knowledge that their service is

12:56meaningful and appreciated. And bless

12:58all who are gathered here today and all

13:00the residents of Phoenix with health,

13:02peace, prosperity, and your continued

13:04blessings. And let us say, "Amen."

13:08>> Thank you, Rabbi. Councilman Kevin

13:10Robinson will lead us in the Pledge of

13:11Allegiance.

13:33>> Thank you, Councilman.

13:35I'll now call to order the formal

13:36meeting of the Phoenix City Council.

13:38Will the clerk call the roll?

13:40>> Councilwoman Guardado.

13:42Councilwoman Hernandez.

13:43>> Here.

13:44>> Councilwoman O'Brien.

13:45>> Here.

13:46>> Councilwoman Pastor.

13:47>> Here.

13:48>> Councilman Robinson.

13:49>> Here.

13:50>> Councilwoman Stark.

13:51>> Here.

13:52>> Councilman Waring.

13:53>> Here.

13:54>> Vice Mayor Gallego Washington.

13:55>> Here.

13:56>> Mayor Gallego.

13:57>> Here.

13:59>> Mario Barajas and Oscar Monroy are here

14:00with us to provide Spanish

14:02interpretation. Mario, would you

14:03introduce your team?

14:04>> Yes, Mayor. Thank you.

14:05Good afternoon. My name is Mario Barajas

14:07and today Oscar Monroy will be helping

14:10me today in the interpretation for our

14:12Spanish-speaking residents.

14:14I'll now take a moment to introduce

14:15ourselves to our Spanish-speaking

14:17residents.

14:44Thank you, Mayor.

14:46>> Thank you so much. Will the city clerk

14:48read the 24-hour paragraph?

14:50>> The titles of the following ordinance

14:51and resolution numbers on the agenda

14:53were available to the public at least 24

14:54hours prior to this council meeting and

14:56therefore may be read by title or agenda

14:57item only. Ordinances number G-7533

15:01and 7552 through 7553, S-53253

15:06through S-53264

15:09and 53266 through 53288

15:12and resolutions 22398

15:15through 22406.

15:18>> Thank you. Will the city attorney please

15:20explain the role of public comment?

15:21>> Yes, thank you, Mayor. Members of the

15:23public may speak for up to 2 minutes to

15:25comment on agenda items. Comments must

15:28be related to the agenda item and the

15:29action being considered by the council.

15:32General comments that go beyond the

15:33scope of the agenda item should be made

15:35during the citizen comment session at

15:37the end of the agenda. The City Council

15:39and staff cannot discuss or comment on

15:41matters related to pending

15:42investigations, claims, or litigation.

15:45Additionally, any member of the public

15:46who appears before the council in their

15:49capacity as lobbyist must, as required

15:51by Phoenix City Code, disclose this fact

15:53before addressing the council. The City

15:55Code states that speakers must express

15:57their comments respectfully and

15:59courteously. Use of profane language,

16:01threats, or personal attacks on members

16:03of the public, council members, or staff

16:04are not allowed. Such comments are

16:06disruptive and unrelated to the

16:08council's business. Any person who

16:10violates these rules may lose their

16:11opportunity to speak further and could

16:13be asked to leave. Thank you.

16:15>> Thank you so much.

16:19Item one, boards and commissions. Vice

16:20Mayor, do you have a motion?

16:22>> I do. Um I move Motion to approve the

16:24Mayor and City Council Board and

16:26Commissions nominations.

16:28>> Second.

16:29>> We have a motion and a second. All those

16:30in favor say I. I.

16:32Any opposed, nay?

16:33We have an impressive group of citizens

16:35to be sworn in today to advise the City

16:37of Phoenix. Congratulations on your

16:39unanimous confirmation. Please come

16:40forward.

17:04Please raise your right hand.

17:06I, state your name,

17:10solemnly swear

17:12that I will support the Constitution of

17:13the United States

17:17and the Constitution and laws of the

17:19state of Arizona.

17:23That I will bear true faith.

17:26And allegiance to the same.

17:28And defend them against all enemies.

17:32Foreign and domestic.

17:34And that I will faithfully and

17:35impartially.

17:37Discharge the duties of.

17:40State your board.

17:45According to the best of my ability.

17:47So help me God.

17:49Congratulations. If you'll now go back

17:51behind the dais, the council would like

17:52to thank you.

18:43Congratulations again to our new and

18:45returning commissioners.

18:47The city of Phoenix provides an advisory

18:49role to the state of Arizona on liquor

18:50licenses and we turn to that portion of

18:52our agenda next. Vice Mayor, do we have

18:55a motion?

18:56>> Motion to approve items 2 through 62,

18:59noting that item 56 is being continued

19:01to the November 18th, 2026 formal

19:04council meeting.

19:05>> Second.

19:06>> Motion and a second. All those in favor

19:07say aye.

19:08>> Aye.

19:09>> Any opposed, nay.

19:11Passes unanimously.

19:18City Clerk, are we ready for ordinances,

19:20resolutions, new business, planning and

19:21zoning?

19:22>> Yes, Mayor.

19:23>> Wonderful. Vice Mayor, do we have a

19:24motion?

19:25>> Motion to approve items 63 through 125

19:29except for the following: items 67, 91,

19:32105, 106, 121, 122, 123, 124, and 125.

19:40Noting that item 66 has additional

19:42information. Item 118 is continued to

19:44November 4, 2026 formal council meeting.

19:48Items 121 and 124 are as revised. And

19:52can the clerk confirm if there are any

19:53other items that should be excluded for

19:55in-person public comment?

19:57>> Yes, Mayor. Vice Mayor, also excluding

19:59items 66,

20:0175, 77, 78, and 79. That's items 66, 75,

20:0977, 78, and 79.

20:12>> Second.

20:15>> All those in favor say aye.

20:17>> Aye.

20:17>> Oh, I'm sorry. Roll call.

20:20>> Hernandez.

20:21>> Yes.

20:22>> O'Brien.

20:22>> Yes.

20:23>> Pastor.

20:24>> Yes.

20:25>> Robinson.

20:26>> Yes.

20:27>> Stark.

20:28>> Yes.

20:29>> Wearing.

20:30>> Yes.

20:31>> Hunt Washington.

20:32>> Yes.

20:33>> Gallego.

20:38>> Yes.

20:39>> Passes 8-0.

20:41>> Item 66, Vice Mayor.

20:44>> Motion to approve item 66.

20:47>> Second.

20:47>> Motion and a second, Jeremy Thacker.

21:02>> Sorry.

21:11>> Mayor

21:12Council members

21:13>> Um Jeremy Thacker speaking for Good

21:16Goat.

21:17Today you're being asked to ratify

21:19Judge Hudson's appointment uh because of

21:22possible open meeting law violations

21:23surrounding the May 12th executive

21:25session.

21:26Uh

21:27This comment concerns your process, not

21:29Judge Hudson.

21:31Um I think he's a fine candidate. I

21:34listened to his interviews

21:34[clears throat]

21:35and questions. Uh

21:37Your agen- your agenda says this is

21:39because this was a formal action. There

21:41are no further written descriptions. But

21:44Arizona's ratification statute requires

21:46more than identifying the appointment

21:48and repeating the vote. It requires a

21:49detailed written description of the

21:51action and all proceeding all proceeding

21:54related deliberations

21:55uh and decisions. That description must

21:57be available at least 72 hours before

22:00the ratification. And the supplemental

22:02notice tells us those discussions

22:04occurred on May 12th.

22:05It does not describe those actions.

22:08It points to meeting materials and says

22:09executive session minutes are

22:10confidential. A statement about when

22:13discussions occurred is not a detailed

22:15description of what occurred.

22:18Good Goat requested the records behind

22:19the Attorney General matter on October

22:215th. The city attorney first said she uh

22:25the matter was confidential because it

22:26was pending.

22:27Subsequently

22:29uh she asserted that attorney-client

22:31privilege and work product protection

22:32over any records the city has.

22:35Uh

22:35the Attorney General is investigating

22:37the city, not representing it.

22:40There is no privilege in that instance.

22:43Uh

22:44So before voting, uh we ask that you

22:46identify the conduct you're attempting

22:47to cure, which you have not done.

22:51Uh

22:51Identify the detailed description you

22:53contend satisfies the statute

22:56and establish when it becomes publicly

22:57available.

23:00Release responsive and non-exempt

23:01records and explain the withholding

23:03before you vote.

23:05It's the public's right to know.

23:07Thank you.

23:09>> Thank you.

23:11Roll call.

23:14Hernandez?

23:15>> Yes.

23:19>> Oh, I'm sorry. Um Vice Mayor?

23:24All right.

23:25Hernandez?

23:27>> Yes.

23:27>> O'Brien?

23:28>> Yes.

23:29>> Pastor?

23:30>> Yes.

23:30>> Robinson?

23:32>> Yes.

23:32>> Stark?

23:33>> Yes.

23:34>> Waring?

23:34>> Yes.

23:35>> Hodge-Washington?

23:36>> Yes.

23:36>> Gallego?

23:37>> Yes.

23:38>> Passes 8-0.

23:39We next go to

23:41item 67, which is a proposed 32nd Avenue

23:44and Davin Roads annexation.

23:46We'll open the public hearing.

23:48I do

23:49not have anyone to comment, so close the

23:51public hearing. We will have a vote at a

23:54future date.

23:56All right. Uh next we go to item 75,

23:59which is Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian

24:02Community Gaming Grant by Vice Mayor.

24:04>> Motion.

24:05>> Motion to approve item 75.

24:07>> Second.

24:08>> We have a motion and a second. Leonard

24:10Clark.

24:15>> Thank you, Mayor and Council members. Um

24:17I just want to thank the indigenous

24:19brothers and sisters

24:21of this nation, and uh I was hoping to

24:23include this

24:25thankfulness to the other indigenous

24:27nation that'll be on the next item for

24:29their grants. I think it's rather ironic

24:31after everything that has gone on

24:34through the last 500 years that

24:36we find ourselves in a place in history

24:38here in the city of Phoenix, especially,

24:40with the symbol behind you, which isn't

24:43goes back to indigenous

24:45uh

24:47spiritual beliefs that they are

24:50being kind in helping out our citizens

24:52with these grants. So, I want to thank

24:54them, at least one citizen, and I hope

24:56there's other citizens

24:57that uh feel the same way. Thank you so

25:00much. I hope you'll vote yes on this.

25:01Thank you.

25:03>> Thank you. Any comments?

25:05This is a exciting item. I include

25:07support for Sudavik

25:10museum where we'll be able to do some

25:11great programming as well as some of our

25:13non-profit partners including the

25:15Arizona Humane Society and several

25:17related to housing. So, appreciate the

25:19partnership with the Salt River

25:21Pima-Maricopa Indian Community. Roll

25:22call.

25:23>> Hernandez.

25:25>> Yes.

25:26>> O'Brien.

25:27>> Yes.

25:28>> Pastor.

25:28>> Yes.

25:29>> Robinson.

25:30>> Yes.

25:31>> Stark.

25:31>> Yes.

25:32>> Waring.

25:33>> Yes.

25:33>> Hodge-Washington.

25:34>> Yes.

25:35>> Gallego.

25:36>> Yes.

25:37>> Passes 8-0.

25:39We next go to item 77, relocation of

25:41protected birds and active nests

25:42including burrowing owls contract. Vice

25:44Mayor.

25:45>> Motion to approve item 77.

25:48>> Second.

25:49>> Williams, Clark.

25:54>> Thank you, Mayor and Council members. As

25:55our environmental laws are under attack

25:57and our species that are endangered and

25:59all the rest, I want to thank you and I

26:01hope for having this item and I hope

26:03you'll vote for it.

26:04I know there are those who scoff at

26:06saving quote the birds,

26:08but they don't understand that the earth

26:10is our mother and that, you know, this

26:13is a whole interactive organism that we

26:16live on and Phoenix, as fast as it's

26:18growing, we need to protect especially

26:20endangered species such as the burrowed

26:23burrowing owl. I'm not sure I got the

26:24exact name, but I thank you in this time

26:27when our environment is under attack

26:29from Washington, D.C. that you're doing

26:31this. Thank you. And I hope you'll vote

26:32yes.

26:34>> Thank you. Roll call.

26:36Hernandez.

26:37>> Yes.

26:38>> O'Brien.

26:38>> Yes.

26:39>> Pastor.

26:40>> Yes.

26:41>> Robinson.

26:41>> Yes.

26:42>> Stark.

26:43>> Yes.

26:43>> Waring.

26:44>> Yes.

26:45>> Hodge-Washington.

26:45>> Yes.

26:46>> Gallego.

26:47>> Yes.

26:47>> Passes 8-0.

26:49Item 78 is the requesting of retroactive

26:52authorization to apply for accept and

26:53disperse funding for the national

26:55household wasted food prevention project

26:57grant application catalyst grant by

26:59Mayor.

27:00>> Motion to approve item 78.

27:02>> Second.

27:03>> Motion and a second, Leonard Clark.

27:09>> Thank you Mayor and council members.

27:11I'm sorry, but I did have to speak on

27:12this. I know I'm speaking a lot, but

27:14with so much wasted food in the city of

27:17Phoenix and in the valley, I think this

27:19is an excellent thing that we need to

27:20do. Think of all the food that's going

27:22to waste when our unhoused brothers and

27:23sisters

27:25and many citizens in the city of Phoenix

27:28and the valley with the high fuel prices

27:30and everything don't have enough food.

27:31We're throwing this food away. I hope

27:32somewhere in there

27:34I know there's a lot of good restaurant

27:35owners that are already trying to help,

27:37but in your system your study here that

27:40you'll find a way

27:42to work with the restaurant owners to

27:44donate more food in this time of high

27:45diesel and fuel prices in this crazy

27:48economy thanks to what's going on in

27:50Washington D.C. Thank you.

27:54>> Thank you. Roll call.

27:56>> Hernandez.

27:56>> Yes.

27:57>> O'Brien.

27:58>> Yes.

27:58>> Pastor.

27:59>> Yes.

28:00>> Robinson.

28:00>> Yes.

28:01>> Stark.

28:02>> Yes.

28:03>> Waring.

28:04Howe Washington.

28:05>> Yes.

28:05>> Gallego.

28:07>> Yes.

28:07>> Passes 8-0.

28:09>> Item 79 is the retroactive authorization

28:11to accept and disperse area agency on

28:13aging region one grant for home

28:15delivered meals by Mayor.

28:17>> Motion to approve item 79.

28:19>> Second.

28:20>> Motion and a second, Leonard Clark.

28:25>> I promise after this there'll just be

28:26one more, but I just want to you know, I

28:29was a Meals on Wheels driver many years

28:31ago and I think this is an excellent

28:33program. I hope you'll vote for it and I

28:35think it's another way of checking on

28:36our elderly and our

28:38physically challenged residents. Many

28:40people are found passed away long after

28:43they passed away. This is a huge tragedy

28:45and I think having Meals on Wheels not

28:47only

28:48helps people, they can tell you with

28:50with the physical challenges how hard it

28:51is to cook, but also as a way of

28:53checking on our our

28:55challenged physically challenged and

28:57elderly neighbors that we have. I think

28:59this is a very good thing. Thank you

29:01again, and I'm glad that you I hope

29:03you'll vote for this. I hope that you

29:04will all vote for this. Thank you.

29:06>> Thank you, and thanks for being a Meals

29:08on Wheels driver. Roll call.

29:09>> Hernandez.

29:11>> Yes.

29:12>> O'Brien.

29:12>> Yes.

29:13>> Pastor.

29:14>> Yes.

29:14>> Robinson.

29:15>> Yes.

29:16>> Stark.

29:16>> Yes.

29:17>> Wearing.

29:18>> Yes.

29:18>> Hodge-Washington.

29:19>> Yes.

29:20>> Gallego.

29:20>> Yes.

29:21>> Passes 8-0.

29:23Next is item 91, retroactive

29:25authorization to apply for and accept

29:27the First Responders Comprehensive

29:28Addiction Act program.

29:30Vice Mayor.

29:31>> Motion to approve item 91.

29:33>> Second.

29:34>> Got a motion and a second. Count First

29:36we'll go to Leonard Clark.

29:40>> [clears throat]

29:40>> Okay, I thought it was going to be a

29:41little longer. This is my last time. But

29:44I want to thank you for putting this

29:45item on the agenda. I know that we it's

29:48either hate or love the police or all of

29:50these other things, but I think that

29:52this is an act of humanity. I think

29:55people out there that are addicted, that

29:57overdose, and all of these things,

29:58having our officers highly trained and

30:01using this type of system, um I'm hoping

30:05that it will inject more compassion

30:07into, you know, you have to have a thick

30:10skin in law enforcement. I couldn't do

30:11it. I know many people that do it.

30:14So I'm hoping this will help them

30:15interact with our community and help

30:17save a lot of lives. Thank you. And I

30:19hope you'll vote for this. Thank you.

30:20>> Thank you so much, Leonard. Councilwoman

30:22Hernandez.

30:22>> Thank you, Mayor. I just have a couple

30:24questions for PD on this item.

30:34>> Mayor, councilwoman, members of the

30:36council, as the team's coming down I'll

30:37introduce them. Assistant Chief Jeff

30:39Benza, um

30:41Commander Brian Millone,

30:43also, um, Detective Sabrina Taylor who

30:45oversees our community,

30:47um,

30:48Oh my gosh, CIT.

30:51>> Crisis Intervention

30:51>> Crisis Intervention Team. The The

30:53acronym just escaped me.

30:55>> There are so many acronyms though.

30:56>> [laughter]

30:57>> Don't worry. I can't keep them all

30:58straight. Um, just have a couple

31:00questions. I think this is a very

31:01important program that we have. Um,

31:03first of all, I just wanted to start,

31:04can you elaborate a little bit on how

31:06the program would work?

31:12>> Need to turn your microphone on, ma'am,

31:14please. What

31:15>> Sorry.

31:15>> Thank you.

31:16>> Thank you.

31:17Um,

31:18the we have a COSSUP grant that ended

31:21September 30th, um, where we were able

31:24to run this program and this would be

31:25continuation of it. It's mirrored off a

31:27program in Tempe. Um,

31:30what it would do is if, uh, officers

31:33revive a person using the Narcan,

31:36um, La Frontera Impact will send a peer

31:38navigator out to that person within 2

31:40hours. Um,

31:42if they're notified, um, and if we

31:45aren't able to notify them right away,

31:46they'll send somebody out within a

31:48couple of days. Um, and to have a candid

31:50conversation about, um,

31:53resources and openness to treatment,

31:54supporting family, or trying to figure

31:57out if they need, um, some kind of

32:00social services to assist them in

32:02recovery.

32:03>> Okay, thank you for that. Um, in does in

32:06our community assistance program, do we

32:07have any similar training or similar

32:09program to this? Um,

32:12in community assistance program

32:14or, um,

32:16if not, what is different in this from

32:22from that?

32:23Sorry, I guess I should have also

32:29>> Mayor and members of the council, um,

32:31Council Member Nunez, I'm not sure if,

32:33uh,

32:34Administrator DC Earnest is here or not,

32:36um, but I can speak to the fact that we

32:38do have um, naloxone training

32:42for

32:43many many city employees across the

32:45city. And we also provide training to

32:46the community. As far as the response

32:49component of this, I think you know,

32:51this is more of a service augmentation.

32:53It is a service that CAP could

32:55potentially provide, but the ability to

32:58respond in every situation may be

33:01challenging depending on whether they're

33:02on other calls and having the

33:03partnership with La Frontera Impact is

33:06really critical in this um

33:08situation as well.

33:09>> Okay, thank you for that cuz I that's

33:10what I was trying to get to if this is

33:11just a

33:14training for administering

33:17because I do agree that we need a I

33:18would like to I want to make sure that

33:21training is not exclusive just to

33:25PD when we're talking about

33:27opioid reversal.

33:29And wanted to make sure that this is

33:31also extended to our CAP teams, probably

33:34our fire since they have a lot of

33:36interactions with our community members

33:38as well. I'm so just trying to if I can

33:40get that follow up, that would be that

33:42would be great.

33:43>> Yes, and Mayor and members of the

33:44council, Councilwoman Hernandez, I can

33:46definitively say our our fire teams, our

33:48CAP teams are trained and able to

33:51respond in those overdose situations.

33:53>> Okay, perfect. Thank you. And

33:55with the grant money on this, how does

33:56the financial structure break out? Does

33:59all of the grant money go through PD or

34:01is any of it allotted to Impact

34:04on their end?

34:05>> Mayor and members of the council,

34:07Councilwoman Hernandez, the majority of

34:09the funding is going to go to La

34:11Frontera Impact with a little bit left

34:14for PD for administrative oversight and

34:16some outreach activities.

34:19We do meet every other Friday with CAP,

34:23Office of Homeless Solutions, Public

34:25Health, and it is a very collaborative

34:26effort. And we all know

34:29what every team is doing and so that

34:31there's no overlap and that we're all

34:33looped into what everybody's doing.

34:35>> Okay, perfect. Um and regarding

34:37monitoring and just success of the

34:38program, um in a year, would we be able

34:41Would the council be able to get an

34:42update on how many individuals we have

34:45helped under this program?

34:48>> Yes, Mayor and members of the council,

34:50Councilman Hernandez, um absolutely.

34:52We're required to monitor that for grant

34:54reporting, um and we do use a

34:56closed-loop referral software, so um

34:58getting reports back to you is very

35:00easy.

35:01>> Awesome. Um and I think Lori, you you

35:04touched a little bit already on that, um

35:06you know, on

35:08broader training for more city uh staff

35:11and departments that are out cuz that we

35:13have a lot of different uh functions in

35:15the city, right? We have park rangers

35:17that are out, we have streets employees

35:19that are out. Um I would love to see

35:21like how how much more we can expand um

35:24opioid reversal training just so that

35:26many of us are prepared to to help

35:29community members that are in need. Um

35:31so, no

35:32we can probably continue that

35:33conversation um and figure out how to do

35:35some more work around that.

35:37>> Mayor and members of the council,

35:38Councilwoman Hernandez, yes, we can

35:39absolutely get you a report of exactly

35:41what has been done to this point. We do

35:43offer training to any city employee that

35:45would like to be trained, um but there

35:47are specific departments, like you

35:49mentioned, parks, library, for example,

35:51human services, that we do um

35:53intentionally

35:55encourage staff to participate in that

35:56training, and so uh we can get you some

35:58information on that and have further

36:00conversation.

36:01>> Okay, thank you so much. Um you know, I

36:03I'm in agreement that we need as many of

36:06our staff um that are out in the

36:08community prepared to help our residents

36:10that are having an overdose. I do still

36:12have to be honest that I do have a

36:13little bit of concern remaining with

36:15police being the ones um doing a lot of

36:17that opioid emergency response, um but I

36:20do want to support, you know, the

36:22programs that already exist, um

36:24and ensure that they work, and we are

36:27meeting the needs of of our residents.

36:29Um I I think my concerns lie in adding

36:31more to the plate of officers. I've had

36:33some conversations with some rank and

36:35file

36:36um

36:36uh

36:37officers and I think

36:39you know, the

36:42they don't want to engage with folks in

36:44in a crisis, right? In an overdose

36:45situation. So, my concerns lie more on

36:48that, on what we're adding and asking to

36:50continue to respond. Um but I will be

36:53supporting this um because I'm open to

36:55multiple solutions um that really get us

36:58to addressing some of our overdose

36:59challenges. Um but I definitely want to

37:02make sure that this is being monitored

37:03and we know uh what impact it's having

37:06out in the community um and make making

37:09sure we're successful in this model. Um

37:11but yeah, that's all I have there. Thank

37:13you so much, Mayor.

37:14>> Thank you, Vice Mayor.

37:16>> Thank you so much, Mayor. I just have a

37:17maybe a clarifying question. I I heard

37:20that you mentioned that this information

37:21is more of a close-loop system. Um and I

37:24know for example, we have the Office of

37:25Public Health which does the Naloxone um

37:28program, overdose prevention program.

37:30I'm wondering if that information will

37:31be shared with the that the that office

37:34or any other department that may benefit

37:36from that information to ensure that we

37:38are targeting the right areas and we

37:39know um we're just keeping better

37:41metrics. I see you nodding your head, so

37:42I'll go ahead and let you answer.

37:45>> Um Mayor, members of the council, um

37:47Councilmember uh Washington, yes. Um we

37:51have been meeting with Public Health

37:52every Friday and we're moving to every

37:54other Friday. I provide them um monthly

37:56reports. They already get data from fire

37:59um but now they're getting data from PD

38:02on um

38:03what uh

38:04reversals have been reported. Um and we

38:07will continue to stay in close contact

38:09with them. Um all of our departments are

38:12looking at um what software might help

38:16us better coordinate across all

38:17departments. Um and so that's there's a

38:20committee formed and we'll we'll find

38:21out um but we do have some money in this

38:24grant to purchase um, licenses for a

38:26software that would make that easier.

38:28>> Thank you for that. I just think this

38:29work is so important. We want to make

38:31sure that the the uh, departments are

38:33not working in silo. I think a more

38:34comprehensive and collaborative approach

38:36is best. So, thank you for that. That

38:38was my only question, Mayor.

38:41>> Thank you. Roll call.

38:43>> Andres?

38:44>> Yes.

38:45>> O'Brien?

38:46>> Yes.

38:47>> Pastor?

38:47>> Yes.

38:48>> Robinson?

38:49>> Yes.

38:49>> Stark?

38:50>> Yes.

38:50>> Waring?

38:51>> Yes.

38:52>> Hodge-Washington?

38:52>> Yes.

38:53>> Gallego?

38:54>> Yes.

38:55>> Passes 8-0.

38:58Items 105 and 106 have a uh, connection.

39:02So, we're going to take them together.

39:03Vice Mayor, do you have a motion?

39:04>> Yes, uh, combined motions on items 105

39:08and 106.

39:09>> Second.

39:10>> Councilwoman O'Brien.

39:11>> Thank you so much, Mayor. Just wanted to

39:14thank the Phoenix voters for their

39:16approval of the general obligation

39:17bonds. We are taking steps to strengthen

39:19public safety in District 1. First, the

39:22Cactus Park pre-police precinct, we are

39:24moving forward with construction of a

39:26modern precinct to replace an outdated

39:28facility. The new campus will better

39:30support our officers, improve

39:32operations, and provide space for

39:34community meetings. It's being built at

39:37the former Fry's Electronics site on

39:39Thunderbird Road just off of Interstate

39:4117. This is an important investment in a

39:44growing corridor with expanding

39:46residential, commercial, and industrial

39:48development. And I look forward to

39:50celebrating the opening of the new

39:51Cactus Park precinct in the coming

39:53years. Additionally, Fire Station 51,

39:57today's item advances the architectural

39:59design for a new station near 43rd

40:01Avenue and Dove Valley Road. Plans call

40:04for six apparatus bays, modern living,

40:07working, and safety spaces for our

40:09firefighters, updated dispatch

40:11capabilities, and a district office.

40:14These plans will help ensure the

40:15facility meets the needs of our

40:17firefighters and our growing Northwest

40:19community.

40:21Both projects demonstrate your tax

40:23dollars at work investing in the public

40:25safety facilities our residents and

40:27first responders deserve. I'm proud to

40:29continue advocating for public safety

40:31and to see these important investments

40:33move forward. Thank you, Mayor.

40:36>> Thank you. Roll call.

40:39Hernandez.

40:41>> Sorry. This is for both items, the vote?

40:43>> Would you like an individual?

40:45>> Oh, no, no, that's fine.

40:46>> Okay, it it is for both.

40:47>> Okay, yes.

40:49>> O'Brien.

40:49>> Yes.

40:50>> Pastor.

40:50>> Yes.

40:51>> Robinson.

40:52>> Yes.

40:53>> Stark.

40:53>> Yes.

40:54>> Waring.

40:54>> Yes.

40:55>> Hodge-Washington.

40:56>> Yes.

40:57>> Gallego.

40:58>> Yes.

40:59>> They passed 8-0.

41:01Next, we move to the Rio Policy Plan. We

41:04will have one hearing but two votes on

41:07items 121 and 122. So, we'll ask uh

41:11the team Enrique to come down and I'll

41:13say a few words of

41:15introduction. This is an exciting item,

41:17the Rio Policy Plan and land use

41:19amendments, which we works will advance

41:22the goals of Rio Reimagined, our

41:24regional effort to celebrate the river

41:25that made Phoenix and our neighboring

41:27communities possible.

41:30From the dedication of grassroots

41:31activists and indigenous communities to

41:33the halls of the US Congress, this

41:35initiative is made up of the dedication

41:37of people from all walks of life who are

41:39committed to preserving the riparian

41:41habitat and creating opportunities for

41:44residents to enjoy this special amenity.

41:46We are thankful to Senator McCain and

41:48Congressman Ed Pastor, whose vision was

41:51very important to this moving forward,

41:53as well as to incredible number of

41:55partners, some of whom are with us here

41:57today.

41:59We have so much momentum bringing the

42:00vision of Rio Reimagined to fruition,

42:02South Central light rail extension with

42:04its beautiful public art, grassroots

42:07efforts to keep the river clean and

42:08remove invasive plants, protectors of

42:10the Salt River, including many members

42:12of our tribal communities who volunteer

42:14weekly.

42:15Want to thank our voters who you we used

42:18general obligation bond dollars to

42:19purchase more than 20 acres east of the

42:21Audubon Center.

42:23We have 4 miles of bike and pedestrian

42:25pathways on both sides of the riverbed

42:28which connects us with neighboring

42:29cities.

42:30The Maricopa Association of Governments

42:32Active Transportation Study is going to

42:34build on this.

42:35Greater Phoenix leadership recently led

42:38the creation of a 501c3 social impact

42:41organization to bring together

42:42stakeholders from across the valley to

42:45drive momentum and thank you to Larry

42:47Lazarus and uh Willow Keeler Altman who

42:50are part of that.

42:52We have uh

42:53in partnership with community members

42:55and philanthropy we're turning a 1-acre

42:56parcel just west of Audubon Center into

42:59a gateway to the riverbed to connect

43:01more residents to this special place.

43:03It'll have shade, gathering space,

43:05native plants, and public art. Thank you

43:07to the community for Arizona Community

43:09Foundation and Bloomberg Philanthropies

43:11for help in that area.

43:14We work very closely with the ASU

43:17University City Exchange Rio Reimagined

43:19team and CC and Maggie, thank you for

43:21being here with us today. And the

43:25council offices uh have been incredibly

43:27involved with this. Also want to thank

43:29the city's Rio PHX team. Extensive

43:32outreach through workshops, surveys, and

43:34literally hundreds of interactions with

43:35community members. Uh thank you to Lisa

43:38who has since taken a promotion in

43:39aviation, Joel, uh Christian Enrique,

43:43Josh, and so many others the

43:45environmental office of environmental

43:47programs and uh with that I will turn it

43:50over to Enrique to

43:52uh

43:53introduce the item.

43:55>> Good afternoon, Mayor, Vice Mayor, uh

43:57members of the council. Uh as mentioned,

44:00Enrique Bohorquez, Planner 3 with

44:01Planning and Development Department.

44:03Uh today culminates 3 years of community

44:05planning work by PDD staff on the Rio

44:07Salado District Policy Plan.

44:09So, we want to thank the project team

44:11which was just previously mentioned, as

44:13well as our consultants, community

44:14partners, residents, property owners for

44:17their involvement over the years. And

44:19also thank Gila River Indian Community

44:20for a grant that supported all of this

44:22work.

44:24So, once again, we'll discuss into items

44:26here, companion cases. First one is the

44:28Rio Salado District Policy Plan

44:30followed by a major General Plan Land

44:32Use Map Amendments.

44:35So, both of these cases here uh support

44:37the economic development goals of the

44:39Rio Reimagined vision at the local

44:41level. This vision has been championed

44:43by late Senator John McCain, late

44:45Congressman Ed Pastor, also supported by

44:47ASU, GPL, and more recently by the Mayor

44:50Gallego, and also many of you here in

44:52the council.

44:55This map right here shows the boundaries

44:56of the Policy Plan as well as a General

44:59Plan Land Use Map Amendments which is a

45:017 square mile area south of downtown

45:03Phoenix bounded by I-17 to the north,

45:06Broadway Road to the south, 32nd Street

45:08to the east, and 19th Avenue to the

45:10west.

45:12The Rio Salado District Policy Plan has

45:14four different parts. The first part

45:16introduces the importance of this

45:17project followed by part two which

45:19celebrates the existing community in the

45:21area. Part number three captures a

45:23community input graphically in the plan.

45:26And part number four is essentially the

45:28road map that has a series of actions

45:30and goals to help achieve the goals in

45:32the plan.

45:33>> [clears throat]

45:35>> Here are just some of the images that

45:36took place with within within our public

45:38outreach process.

45:40As you can see, there were over a

45:41thousand interactions, 500 survey

45:43responses, and over 50 community

45:45engagements in this robust planning

45:47process

45:49which was grounded extensively on

45:51community outreach.

45:54Accompanying the Policy Plan is a major

45:56General Plan Land Use Map Amendments.

45:59This GPA supports the Policy Plan goals

46:01and encourages a transition in land uses

46:03in the area over the long term.

46:07Both the plan and the general plan

46:08amendments are grounded on the on these

46:10four ideas that are shown here on the

46:12screen, which arise from community

46:14inputs

46:15and work in tandem to achieve these

46:17community goals as part of this vision

46:19roadmap for the future.

46:23We're we're happy to to share that we

46:25received recommendation of approvals

46:27from the Central City Village Planning

46:29Committee back in July, followed by the

46:31South Mountain Village Planning

46:32Committee in September, and most

46:33recently by the Planning Commission on

46:35October 1st, which recommended approval

46:37for the staff memo dated September 29th,

46:402026. Since then, we have also received

46:43a letter from the Environmental Quality

46:45Sustainability Committee, which is in

46:47support of the of the policy plan. We do

46:49want to thank them and also look forward

46:51to supporting their recommendations upon

46:54implementation of the plan actions.

46:57And with that, staff offers a

46:59recommendation of approval for both

47:01cases for the Planning Commission

47:02recommendation and adopt the related

47:04resolutions.

47:06Be happy to answer any questions. Thank

47:07you.

47:09>> Thank you so much.

47:11Go ahead and open the public hearing.

47:12Would anyone like to comment before we

47:14go to public comment? We have many

47:15public comments. What public comment?

47:19All right.

47:24We'll begin with Larry Lazarus, followed

47:26by Cece.

47:36>> Good afternoon, Mayor, members of the

47:38council. Um I'm not here representing

47:40anybody.

47:42I am vice chairman of the founding board

47:45of the 501c3

47:48Rio Reimagined, um comprising six

47:51cities, two Indian reservations,

47:55uh and over 55 miles of riverbed

47:59Um we are going to be coordinate helping

48:02coordinate the entire plan over this

48:05period of time

48:06as well as working on funding

48:09opportunities.

48:11We are very much in support of I am very

48:14much in support of the plan and

48:17this is um Senator McCain's um

48:21vision before he passed away and we're

48:24very happy continue on that vision and

48:28work with you on this plan

48:30which is so much so important to the

48:32entire 55 miles. Thank you.

48:37>> Thank you.

48:39CC is next followed by

48:42Gilbert Arvizu.

48:51>> Mayor and council members, thanks so

48:52much for the opportunity to speak today.

48:54My name is Cecilia Riviere. I'm

48:56representing ASU University City

48:59Exchange Office.

49:01ASU's role in the Rio Reimagined

49:03initiative is pretty unique. We're not

49:06an owner or regulator. We're not a

49:08developer of the corridor. Instead,

49:10we're a neutral convener and

49:11facilitator. We bring together cities,

49:14tribal communities public agencies,

49:16nonprofits and businesses industry, our

49:19researchers, students and community

49:22stakeholders around a shared vision for

49:25the future of the Salt and Gila River

49:26corridor.

49:28And since it's launch in 2018, Rio

49:30Reimagined has worked to connect people,

49:33nature, culture, economic opportunity,

49:36transportation across a regional

49:38landscape that traverses multiple

49:40jurisdictions. The vision recognizes

49:42that no single project or city can

49:45achieve transformation alone. It

49:47requires each partner to advance bold,

49:49locally grounded plans that contribute

49:52to the larger whole.

49:54That's why the Rio Salado District

49:55Policy Plan is so important. Phoenix has

49:58taken the regional aspirations of Rio

50:00Reimagined and translated them into

50:03thoughtful, actionable framework

50:05for the future of the district.

50:08The plan builds upon decades of planning

50:10by the city of Phoenix. Riverfront

50:13investments, extensive community

50:15engagement, and it provides a long-range

50:17vision for how land use, mobility,

50:20economic development, housing, public

50:23space, ecological stewardship, and

50:25quality design can work together to

50:28create a more connected and vibrant

50:30community. The plan sets a high standard

50:33for future river corridor planning

50:35efforts throughout the region for many

50:37of the other cities.

50:38It combines technical rigor and

50:40community vision.

50:42Balancing economic opportunity with

50:44environmental stewardship, and it moves

50:46beyond concepts to implement

50:49uh future strategies and partnerships

50:52will be necessary.

50:54Thank you so much. Thank you.

50:58Mr. Irvin Sue followed by Armando Ruiz.

51:05Thank you, Mayor and members of council.

51:06It's hard to believe that I've been

51:07coming up here for nearly a decade in

51:09support of Rio Reimagined, and the

51:11reason is as I was in

51:14uh John McCain's DC office answering the

51:17phones when his long-time legislative

51:19assistant Matt McTeague walked in and

51:21asked, "Are you from Phoenix?" And I

51:24said, "Yes." Because most of McCain's DC

51:26interns are from the DC area. And he

51:29said, "Okay, well you're going to help

51:30out on a project." And he turned around

51:33and he left. He didn't even tell me what

51:35the project was. Well, the project ended

51:37up being Rio Reimagined. Virginia

51:40Pounds, McCain's long-time staffer and

51:42DC office manager at the time, later

51:45told me she couldn't remember ever a

51:47time where an intern traveled for

51:49official US Senate business and I did

51:52traveling here to Phoenix to meet with

51:54city staff in those early days of

51:56planning. Of course, there were many of

51:58us who got us to this point, the ASU

52:01architecture students in the 60s, Harry

52:04Mitchell and Neil Giuliano who helped

52:06turn that vision into Tempe Town Lake

52:09and of course Congressman Ed Pastor who

52:11brought in the federal funding to

52:12restore the Rio in Phoenix. And while I

52:16was in the room when we voted to call it

52:17Rio Reimagined, of everything I

52:19contributed in those early days, there

52:21was one perspective I wanted understood

52:24in our briefings to Senator McCain. And

52:28that the real Salado is not for the guy

52:30in Paradise Valley who's going to come

52:31and ride his bike and spend $8 on a cup

52:33of coffee once a month. It isn't for the

52:36person in town for the Final Four and

52:38All-Star Weekend or the Super Bowl. Can

52:40these folks use the Rio? Absolutely.

52:43Spend your time and money in downtown

52:45Phoenix, please. But this project is for

52:48the communities in and near the Salt

52:49River flood plain that have historically

52:51been left out of the investment and

52:53opportunity around them. This is for

52:55them. And as we move forward, we cannot

52:58lose sight of who this is for. I

53:00appreciate Enrique and the staff for the

53:02meaningful community engagement that got

53:04us here and I look forward to seeing

53:06this vision finally become a reality.

53:08Thank you.

53:11>> Thank you. Armando is next followed by

53:13Bob Brown.

53:18>> Afternoon, uh

53:20mayor, members of the council.

53:22I remember this issue 35, 40 years ago

53:25and the suspicion was that this was not

53:28for us from South Phoenix. It was going

53:30to be for other folks who'd come in from

53:32other areas and tell us this is how

53:34you're going to live.

53:36This is what we're going to do for you.

53:37We're going to save you.

53:39And that suspicion has always been there

53:40and I would tell you being honestly

53:42being honest it's still there.

53:45But you have an incredible staff and

53:46we've worked really really hard with

53:48them in these last years. Sometimes

53:49almost beating each other up.

53:51You know, welcome to South Side and but

53:55it's about being honest and we need to

53:57have a seat at the table for this dream

54:01to be successful.

54:03We are here in support. It's been

54:06a long time coming. Lots of folks

54:09who have your dad, you know,

54:13uh Senator DeConcini, Senator McCain,

54:15former Mayor Paul Johnson, lots of

54:18folks.

54:20They've had this dream.

54:22Now, we have also we want to participate

54:25in that. It's got to be good for

54:26everybody. The development just can't

54:28stop at Broadway. Just can't be just Rio

54:31Salado. It's got to be the South

54:33Phoenix. Got to be entering into South

54:36Phoenix. It's got to be a whole city of

54:38Phoenix a celebration.

54:41Now, we still have work to do and I

54:44would just

54:45uh you know, we have to be vigilant

54:46about things that can bring this down

54:49and I'll I'll bring up uh we have a

54:51methadone clinic that is right on Rosier

54:54and Central that is opening up. Nobody

54:56knows about it.

54:58Thank God we we were at a meeting with

55:01a community meeting with with with uh

55:03Council Member Hernandez and they just

55:05kind of came up. So, we have to be

55:07vigilant at that. We have to work with

55:09the state and the and the county cuz we

55:11don't know who brought that in.

55:13The community doesn't know about it.

55:15There's nine schools around that. 24

55:17hours a day, 7 days a week.

55:21Thank you.

55:26>> Thank you. Bob is next followed by

55:28Michael who I believe is our final

55:29speaker.

55:35>> Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Thank

55:37you for giving me this opportunity.

55:40My remarks might be a little off-topic,

55:43but I'm looking like the last gentleman

55:44at the greater area.

55:46And uh

55:48I'm super in support of the uh Rio

55:51Reimagined. I was a student at ASU in

55:531984 and helped with the organizations

55:56to do help Tempe do the original

55:58planning. Always been a super big

56:00advocate.

56:01But if we don't look at the larger

56:03picture, and one of the larger pictures

56:05in this area is the traffic in South

56:08Phoenix, particularly along Baseline

56:09Road, is a mess. It's a quagmire. Uh

56:13MAG keeps kicking the can down the road

56:15for the for the interchange.

56:17>> you do got to connect it somehow to Rio.

56:19>> I'm just saying it's the larger area.

56:21>> and we will take you in public comment

56:23if you want to talk about Baseline Road,

56:24but

56:26could you make it somehow related to

56:27Rio?

56:28>> Yeah, well, I I said it's it's it's the

56:29area around it. As as the last gentleman

56:32just talked about the clinic at at Rio

56:34and Central.

56:35Uh

56:36this is the area around it. And the it

56:39doesn't really help us to have a really

56:40groovy area if the traffic around it is

56:43just nothing but a quagmire. So, I would

56:45implore

56:47implore you to think about improving the

56:49traffic along Baseline. There's several

56:51uh things that could be done,

56:53and and it could be improved. So, thank

56:55you for your time.

56:58>> Thank you. We'll go next to Michael, and

56:59then we do have one person virtual to

57:01speak if necessary. So, we'll go to Sam.

57:06>> A good afternoon, Mayor and Council

57:07members. Mike Mearowits with the law

57:09firm Snell & Wilmer. I'm here on behalf

57:11of my client uh Cemex, which owns 26

57:13acres within the Rio Salado uh corridor.

57:16Uh there's a letter that's included in

57:18your case packet from Cemex with some

57:20suggested revisions that we had proposed

57:22to to the plan. And as was uh clear in

57:25the letter, we very much are supportive

57:26of the city's overall policy goals for

57:29the Rio Salado in terms of transforming

57:31and revitalizing it. Um our concern is

57:33really a a simple one, that as a policy

57:36plan it doesn't address or provide a

57:38policy framework for short-term and

57:41interim uses uh that really are

57:44beneficial uh uses of properties within

57:46the Real Slough Corridor and are not

57:48incompatible with those future goals.

57:50So, as an example, in the case of

57:51Cemex's property, the plan identifies

57:54the future use of Cemex's property for a

57:56mixed-use uh campus with lots of open

57:59space and public trails, which is a

58:01great long-term use of of the property.

58:03But, Cemex, as a construction uh

58:05materials producing company, views the

58:07site as a very valuable site that's a

58:09great opportunity to support uh its its

58:12business operations and support

58:13construction through aggregate mining or

58:15construction uh materials producing

58:18activities. And currently, the plan um

58:20is silent with respect to those

58:21short-term uses, which again can be

58:24compatible of a future use like a

58:26mixed-use campus if there's

58:27post-reclamation

58:29uh activities or requirements at that

58:31are implemented. And so, we did include

58:33suggested language for you. We

58:34completely understand all of the hard

58:36work that's been put into this by by

58:37city staff and how difficult it is to

58:39make uh late changes. And so, really, we

58:41we just have a question that we're

58:42hoping staff uh could answer, which is

58:45in light of the plan not addressing uh

58:47short-term uses, if a company like our

58:49client were to uh request a proposal or

58:52a special permit for a construction

58:53producing activity, if a reclamation

58:56measures uh were proposed as part of

58:58that, would this plan preclude uh the

59:00city from supporting or staff from

59:02supporting a special permit request such

59:04as that one?

59:05>> Thank you.

59:06And I should note we are in court this

59:08morning. Snell & Wilmer sued us on

59:09behalf of a data center. So, we went to

59:11court this morning. Big day with Snell.

59:13All right.

59:14>> Mayor,

59:14>> Uh

59:15Councilwoman.

59:17>> Thank [laughter] you.

59:18Um you threw me off my game a little

59:20right there, but

59:21>> I've never I've never done that before.

59:24>> I know. There's a first time for

59:25everything. But, um

59:27I just a follow-up on that question,

59:29um

59:30with the plan Josh, is there anything

59:32that you can address to that specific

59:34question?

59:35Um

59:36if they would be okay with the

59:38short-term use going through the

59:40permit process?

59:42>> Mayor, Councilwoman Hernandez, members

59:44of the council, there is nothing in the

59:46plan that would preclude a property

59:48owner from exercising their existing

59:50zoning rights. What I think Mr.

59:51Meriwether is referring to is that a

59:54concrete batch plant or an asphalt batch

59:56plant is required to pursue a special

59:58permit today. This plan does not change

1:00:01the allowance for them to pursue that

1:00:02special permit. They, as part of that

1:00:05special permit um

1:00:07process, would have to just demonstrate

1:00:09how that request aligns and addresses

1:00:12the adopted vision in the Rio Phoenix

1:00:14plan. Ultimately, special permit goes

1:00:16through rezoning process and the final

1:00:18say is the city council and it would go

1:00:19through our public hearing process.

1:00:21So, I I can't provide any assurances to

1:00:23Mr. Meriwether's permit with that, but

1:00:25there's nothing in this plan precludes

1:00:27him or his client from pursuing that.

1:00:29>> Okay. And hopefully if that answer

1:00:32doesn't suffice, I would be happy to

1:00:34continue the conversation. Um since

1:00:36Cemex I think is in the District 7 side

1:00:38of the of the Rio.

1:00:41Um

1:00:42So, hopefully that we can continue

1:00:43conversations if needed on that piece,

1:00:45but hopefully we got you a little bit of

1:00:46answer there.

1:00:47Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor.

1:00:50>> Thank you and I was corrected, they sued

1:00:51us yesterday

1:00:53on some elected officials' birthdays.

1:00:56>> [laughter]

1:00:56>> Vice Mayor.

1:00:57>> Thank you, Mayor. Um I just have a

1:00:59little um trepidation

1:01:00>> I should also note that we have one

1:01:01speaker remaining, but this is very

1:01:03important. So, okay, Vice Mayor.

1:01:04>> Yeah, thank you. I will just ask my

1:01:05question and then I go back to the

1:01:06speaker. I just have some trepidation

1:01:08about a speaker asking for a

1:01:10what could be viewed as an

1:01:11interpretation from the DAs without more

1:01:14information.

1:01:16I think there is a process, right, for

1:01:18an as a property owner to get

1:01:20clarification about their

1:01:22property potential property rights and

1:01:24of the procedure and it it's not

1:01:26necessarily coming and asking this

1:01:28question at

1:01:30public comment. That I'm sorry comment

1:01:32on this item. Is there a procedure for

1:01:35further clarification if that

1:01:36clarification is needed?

1:01:38>> Mayor Vice Mayor members of the council

1:01:39yes a property owner certainly can

1:01:41pursue a zoning verification or zoning

1:01:43interpretation. Again my my response was

1:01:46an attempt to to verify or just confirm

1:01:48that the this policy adoption does not

1:01:50preclude them from pursuing that route

1:01:52or a special permit request.

1:01:54>> And maybe it's the lawyer in me. I'm

1:01:56just concerned that we would say

1:01:57something here that will then bind us

1:01:59later on without a true um

1:02:02review of the matter. So I just wanted

1:02:04to voice my concern about us doing that

1:02:06in this matter because there is a

1:02:07process for that. So thank you for

1:02:10clarifying that Mayor I'll let the other

1:02:12speaker and then I'll come back to my

1:02:13other concerns.

1:02:14>> Perfect. I'll let you go to you.

1:02:15Uh first but very good point. Thank you

1:02:17Vice Mayor. It's good to have a lawyer

1:02:18on the council and so we did not provide

1:02:21any kind of interpretation and should

1:02:23someone want to have an additional rock

1:02:24products facility they would go through

1:02:26the normal

1:02:27process perhaps a special use permit.

1:02:30But if the council one wants to push for

1:02:32more rock products there's

1:02:34the existing ability.

1:02:36Sam.

1:02:41>> Good afternoon. Uh can you guys hear me?

1:02:45>> We can.

1:02:46>> Can you hear me?

1:02:50Hello.

1:02:50>> Sam we can hear you.

1:02:53>> Okay. Can you hear me now?

1:02:55>> Yes we can.

1:02:57>> Okay. Thank you thank you council. Thank

1:02:59you uh

1:03:01Mayor Garcetti Vice Mayor. Uh so my I'm

1:03:04Sam Gomez. I represent the Sagrado

1:03:07um

1:03:08I'm very excited about this milestone as

1:03:10you know after 10 years um

1:03:13working cultivating arts and culture on

1:03:15the corridor

1:03:16uh participating with the Third Street

1:03:18pedestrian uh bicycle bridge as well as

1:03:21uh curating art shows at the Autobahn

1:03:24for the last 10 10 years, almost 10

1:03:27years now. Um

1:03:29as well as just uh always, you know,

1:03:31being uh involved but also advocating

1:03:34for

1:03:36beautification as well as

1:03:39conscious development in the area.

1:03:41And I know that's sometimes hard to do

1:03:43based on

1:03:44uh a budget

1:03:46zoning and policies. Um but what I would

1:03:50love to see and I'm um I think I've been

1:03:52sharing this uh with community and also

1:03:54been hearing this from community is to

1:03:56see how the city can explore the

1:03:58possibilities of the Latino Cultural

1:04:01Center

1:04:02uh to be possibly develop and build at

1:04:05the Rio Salado.

1:04:07I think it would be a great uh

1:04:08investment and and positive impact for

1:04:11the sake of the light rail uh connecting

1:04:13from north to the south, south to north

1:04:16right now.

1:04:17And just seeing down there create the

1:04:19equity and the balance of just bringing

1:04:21arts and culture investment more to

1:04:24south of the tracks. All the museums

1:04:26and most of the galleries or all the

1:04:28galleries are north of the tracks. It

1:04:30would be a great uh I think it would be

1:04:32great for our community to gather as

1:04:34they gather now at the Rio Salado for

1:04:36arts and culture and um and doing other

1:04:39um

1:04:40stewardship work at the Rio and just

1:04:42would love to see uh how the also how

1:04:45the city would be able to make sure that

1:04:48the community is involved with uh the

1:04:51phases and the next steps and

1:04:52implementation and and I know like uh

1:04:56Armando mentioned earlier that there's

1:04:57plenty of work still need to be done but

1:04:59we would make sure that uh the community

1:05:01voice is being involved as we move

1:05:03forward.

1:05:04Thank you.

1:05:07>> Thank you.

1:05:08Okay. Uh that I believe concludes public

1:05:10comment. I'll turn back to the vice

1:05:11Mayor.

1:05:12>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I just wanted to

1:05:14start off by saying, uh, thank you to

1:05:16Enrique and Josh for the great work

1:05:18you've done. Um, having, uh, more than a

1:05:20thousand interactions and dozens of

1:05:22community, uh, and meetings. Some have

1:05:24gone multiple hours. I I know of those

1:05:27and they've been robust and lively

1:05:29conversations. And I think that's a

1:05:31testament to how important this project

1:05:34is for our community.

1:05:36Um, I think this plan gives us an

1:05:37opportunity This is an opportunity to

1:05:38think intentionally about how this area

1:05:41is developed, how we connect residents

1:05:43to the Real Salt Lake,

1:05:44and how we create neighborhoods that are

1:05:46more accessible, vibrant, and responsive

1:05:48to the needs of the people who already

1:05:49live there.

1:05:50I think as we plan, we need to be uh

1:05:53we need to ensure that we are

1:05:55incorporating, um,

1:05:56our residents, our neighborhood

1:05:58organizations, businesses, and community

1:06:00partners. I thank them who have

1:06:01participated this far.

1:06:03And I recognize their efforts and I

1:06:04think their voices were very essential

1:06:06to ensuring that this vision reflects

1:06:08the priorities and experiences of people

1:06:10who are most directly affected.

1:06:13Um, I'm also encouraged by the

1:06:15opportunity to connect economic

1:06:17development with housing affordability,

1:06:19improved mobility, um, environmental

1:06:22restoration, and neighborhood

1:06:23investment. Um, I believe we have an

1:06:25obligation to make sure that growth is

1:06:27not simply about what we build, but also

1:06:29who benefits from that growth.

1:06:31I also want to emphasize that as we move

1:06:33forward, implementation will be as just

1:06:35as important as adoption. We need to

1:06:37continue working with residents,

1:06:38businesses, community organizations, and

1:06:40our regional partners to turn the goals

1:06:43of this plan into tangible improvements.

1:06:45I believe, um, Mr. Ruiz said it best.

1:06:49This community wants this investment,

1:06:52but they also want to make sure that

1:06:53they are heard throughout this process.

1:06:56I was, um,

1:06:57I was grateful to see we have a 501c3

1:07:00that is interested in moving this

1:07:02forward and I definitely want to make

1:07:03sure we have a good balance of the

1:07:06residents that live there or those that

1:07:07are affected and those that are don't

1:07:09live there, but I want to make sure it

1:07:10feels like it's a cohesive project. Um,

1:07:14I think this is one of the many

1:07:15opportunities where this area, I like to

1:07:17say this, I don't believe I just

1:07:19represent District 8. I believe it's

1:07:21also my role to represent District 8 to

1:07:24our community. And I think this is one

1:07:26of the projects that gives us the

1:07:27opportunity to do so.

1:07:29Um, of course I know this project

1:07:31predates myself, so I don't want to make

1:07:33it seem like I am

1:07:34I am taking credit for it, but I believe

1:07:36that this is an important, very

1:07:38important milestone that we um, that we

1:07:41take very carefully. It's it doesn't end

1:07:43here the collaboration. I I'm saying

1:07:45this not just for the benefit of city

1:07:47staff. I'm saying it for the benefit of

1:07:48our residents that are also listening

1:07:50and have concerns. I know many of our

1:07:53residents were concerned about, for

1:07:54example, making sure there was more

1:07:56housing incorporated into this plan. And

1:07:59I really want to thank you for having

1:08:01those, sometimes it felt like difficult

1:08:03conversation with the community members

1:08:05about what's possible and what's

1:08:07feasible. And I think we got to a really

1:08:09good place and it showed that this is a

1:08:11trusted process and I just want to

1:08:13acknowledge those efforts and thank you

1:08:15for taking those efforts and encourage

1:08:17us to continue building [clears throat]

1:08:19on this as we move forward. The Rio

1:08:21Salado is an important part of Phoenix's

1:08:23identity and our future. So, this item I

1:08:25think brings forth a very strong

1:08:27framework for bringing together our

1:08:29environmental, economic, and community

1:08:31priorities that will benefit generations

1:08:34to come. So, again, I just want to thank

1:08:35the Planning and Development Department,

1:08:37our Village Planning Committees, the

1:08:39Planning Commission, and all of the

1:08:41community members who have helped shape

1:08:43this vision. And I am very much in

1:08:45support of moving this item these items

1:08:46forward. So, thank you.

1:08:49>> Thank you. Well well said. So, wanted to

1:08:52recognize Joelle for the work on this.

1:08:55Uh, who Councilwoman?

1:08:57>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, you know, I I

1:09:00really appreciate, you know, the the

1:09:02comments from the community members

1:09:03here. Um,

1:09:05You're right, like this is going to be

1:09:07the community here has a vision and a

1:09:09dream of what they want to see for this

1:09:10area, and I fully agree that we cannot

1:09:13leave them out of the process, right?

1:09:15Like a lot of times

1:09:16we do a lot of really good things, and

1:09:18sometimes we miss the mark in the

1:09:20implementation phase. And I think what I

1:09:22really appreciate about all the work

1:09:25that Joel well you and Josh and

1:09:27everybody has done on this is that we

1:09:29were very honest about the history of

1:09:31this area

1:09:32in the report. I I don't think anybody

1:09:35probably has not taken the time to read

1:09:36the full report that was put out, but I

1:09:39do want to say and acknowledge that for

1:09:41me it was very important as as part of

1:09:45representation in South Phoenix

1:09:47to really have the honesty of the

1:09:50history of this area, the redlining that

1:09:52happened in the past, right, in the

1:09:53Barrio

1:09:54Barrio Unidos neighborhoods,

1:09:57how certain people could only live south

1:09:58of the tracks. And I think if we are not

1:10:01honest about our past, we are not going

1:10:04to build a proper future for this

1:10:06community. So, I appreciate that that is

1:10:09in the report of the displacement that

1:10:11has happened in the past, and you all

1:10:12know that that is one of the biggest

1:10:14concerns not just to me, but to me

1:10:17through the community, right? And every

1:10:19every conversation involves around how

1:10:22is this going to benefit us or are we

1:10:23going to be displaced out of this area?

1:10:25And this is an area that has seen

1:10:27significant disinvestment over decades.

1:10:29Um you know, we still have I know the

1:10:31report says that up to 2003 there was

1:10:34neighborhoods that still didn't have

1:10:35sidewalks. I mean, I still have streets

1:10:37in South Phoenix that still don't have

1:10:38sidewalks. So, I know we got a long way

1:10:39to go, but I think this is a great step

1:10:42in getting us to the kind of South

1:10:44Phoenix and Rio area that everybody

1:10:46wants to see.

1:10:48You know, the some of the other facts

1:10:50for those that don't know the the the

1:10:52numbers behind this area, it's also a

1:10:5472% Latino Hispanic district, right? In

1:10:58the real district. There's also

1:11:01I like that we're incorporating health

1:11:04into this plan because right now there's

1:11:06a 3 to 13 year life expectancy

1:11:08difference

1:11:10in this area between the rest of the

1:11:12city of Phoenix. That means that

1:11:14residents in this area are living up to

1:11:1613 years less than other residents

1:11:18across the city of Phoenix. So, that's

1:11:21very important that we are incorporating

1:11:22that lens and bringing that framework

1:11:24into this plan

1:11:26of how we're going to build this area

1:11:27moving forward. And I also want to

1:11:29reiterate that I am in full agreement

1:11:32that we have to incorporate the

1:11:33community in the decision-making

1:11:35process, keep them apprised of progress,

1:11:38make sure that they are being

1:11:39communicated that we maintain those

1:11:41those open lines of communication so we

1:11:43continue so we keep the trust of this

1:11:46community with us.

1:11:48So, great work on all of this on the

1:11:50many years that have went into it.

1:11:53You know, it's I love where we're at.

1:11:56I'm excited to see where we go with this

1:11:58and I'm excited that we're going to work

1:12:01in partnership with the community that

1:12:03is directly impacted by everything we do

1:12:07from this day. So, thank you so much for

1:12:08all the work. Thank you to the community

1:12:10members that like the Ruiz family, Sam,

1:12:13and everybody else, the organizations

1:12:15that have been involved in getting us to

1:12:17this point. And I'm just really excited

1:12:19to see how the implementation goes so we

1:12:21can actually build everything that we're

1:12:23encompassing in this plan. Thank you so

1:12:25much, Mayor.

1:12:27>> Thank you, Councilwoman.

1:12:28>> Can I say one thing?

1:12:29>> All right, Councilwoman Waring.

1:12:30>> I didn't mean to omit Joel from my

1:12:31comments. So, I apologize for missing

1:12:33you. So, my thing I just wanted to say

1:12:34thank you for your work as well.

1:12:40>> Uh to Councilwoman Waring and then

1:12:41Councilwoman Pastor.

1:12:42>> I think I just like to say thank you to

1:12:43the Mayor for spearheading this. When

1:12:45she got elected Mayor, I think one of

1:12:47the first things I remember her talking

1:12:49to me about was this and uh I remember

1:12:51meeting I can't remember where, uh with

1:12:53Cindy McCain to discuss this. Um

1:12:56just very grateful as someone who worked

1:12:57for Senator McCain. I know he'd be

1:12:58thrilled that 8 years after his passing

1:13:01that this is something we're discussing

1:13:02and focused on. I know this is a passion

1:13:04project of his, really his last big

1:13:06thing, so that's very meaningful for me.

1:13:09And again, just very grateful for

1:13:10everybody who's been supportive and

1:13:12who's been working on this. Um

1:13:14just want to say thank you.

1:13:16>> Thank you.

1:13:17Councilwoman Pastor.

1:13:19>> Thank you, Mayor. And thank you to my

1:13:21colleagues. Um I'm just going to set

1:13:23some record straight on history.

1:13:26Um

1:13:27my dad would be 83.

1:13:31And 65 years ago, this is where the

1:13:34vision started.

1:13:35Um the vision started as a

1:13:39assignment to one of his classes, and he

1:13:43chose the Rio. And he chose that area

1:13:46because he had worked in that area.

1:13:48And he had also been part of Guadalupe,

1:13:51and uh then

1:13:53his vision continued when he became uh a

1:13:56county supervisor.

1:13:58Um the bridge actually kept the bridge

1:14:03traveled to the north or you traveled to

1:14:05the south.

1:14:07And when you traveled to the north, it

1:14:08was the working-class families that

1:14:10lived in that area that went to their

1:14:12jobs and they traveled back. The bridges

1:14:15separated.

1:14:17I don't know if it was intentional,

1:14:20but they separated communities.

1:14:24The other piece is that um

1:14:29that area, we have to think of that area

1:14:31as

1:14:32as our families

1:14:35being truly authentic as to what

1:14:39is going to happen for the future.

1:14:41This plan is needed because the

1:14:44community's voice is needed in this

1:14:45plan,

1:14:46but it should be better it should be

1:14:48embedded even deeper.

1:14:50It's a rich area

1:14:52of history.

1:14:55And so

1:14:57I am glad that you captured

1:14:59a majority of it, some of it, but we

1:15:02probably need to go deeper

1:15:04in this space.

1:15:06The other piece is light rail went down

1:15:10um Central.

1:15:12There was intention behind light rail

1:15:13going down Central. The intention of it

1:15:16going down Central was also to connect

1:15:18the north and south.

1:15:20In addition to that was also to bring

1:15:23housing.

1:15:24Not to change South Phoenix, but to

1:15:27bring the items that were deserved to

1:15:30that area.

1:15:31So, affordable housing

1:15:34is one of the things that is deep in the

1:15:36plan.

1:15:37Being able to keep and maintain our

1:15:41mom-and-pop businesses.

1:15:44There's been great effort for this area

1:15:47not to be regentrified.

1:15:49And if

1:15:51the community does not follow it

1:15:54and stick with this and voice their

1:15:58opinions,

1:15:59it could be regentrified.

1:16:03The other piece is um

1:16:06this is a dream for many.

1:16:09And

1:16:10it was a dream of Congressman Pastor,

1:16:14who also secured all the dollars

1:16:17in order to start the Rio.

1:16:20In order for it to move and be where it

1:16:22is today.

1:16:25My understanding and my understanding is

1:16:28then Senator McCain

1:16:30then said

1:16:32looked out at Tempe Town Lake and said

1:16:36we need to make this happen on the Rio.

1:16:39And with the combo of both of them

1:16:41towards the end of their of their

1:16:43careers,

1:16:44uh uh they came together.

1:16:47And it was a combo of both of them

1:16:49that are going to make their spirits are

1:16:51still still alive that is going to make

1:16:54it happen.

1:16:55Because really in true true form they're

1:16:58the legacy of Rio Salado. We're just

1:17:00continuing the legacy and making sure

1:17:03that it is built the way it is needed by

1:17:06community.

1:17:08I will end with the fact that the

1:17:12indigenous population is all part of

1:17:14this.

1:17:15I will end with the fact that there's a

1:17:17lot of love going into this.

1:17:20And I will end with the fact that it's

1:17:22all community driven.

1:17:24So thank you for all your efforts. Thank

1:17:26you for everybody that has been part of

1:17:28this and generations of generations of

1:17:30families.

1:17:32And thank you for those that are

1:17:33standing here today that continue the

1:17:35legacy that is needed for our community.

1:17:37Thank you.

1:17:41>> Thank you.

1:17:43All right. Does anyone wish to comment

1:17:45before we move forward with the first of

1:17:47our two votes?

1:17:48All right, vice mayor. Do we have a

1:17:50motion on

1:17:52item 121?

1:17:53>> Thank you, mayor. Motion is to approve

1:17:55per the planning commission

1:17:56recommendation and adopt the related

1:17:58resolution on item 121.

1:18:00>> Second.

1:18:02>> Motion and a second. Roll call.

1:18:04>> Hernandez.

1:18:05>> Yes.

1:18:05>> O'Brien.

1:18:06>> Yes.

1:18:07>> Pastor.

1:18:08>> Yes.

1:18:08>> Robinson.

1:18:09>> Yes.

1:18:10>> Stark.

1:18:10>> Yes.

1:18:11>> Wearing.

1:18:12>> Yes.

1:18:12>> Pott Washington.

1:18:13>> Yes.

1:18:14>> Gallego.

1:18:15>> Yes.

1:18:16>> Passes 8-0.

1:18:17122, uh vice mayor. Motion to approve

1:18:21per the planning commission

1:18:22recommendation and adopt the related

1:18:23resolution as it pertains to item 122.

1:18:26>> Second.

1:18:28>> Motion and a second. And I apologize, I

1:18:29forgot to close the public hearing.

1:18:33Roll call.

1:18:35>> Hernandez.

1:18:36>> Yes.

1:18:36>> O'Brien?

1:18:37>> Yes.

1:18:38>> Pastor?

1:18:39>> Yes.

1:18:40>> Robinson?

1:18:41>> Yes.

1:18:41>> Stark?

1:18:42>> Yes.

1:18:43>> Waring?

1:18:43>> Yes.

1:18:44>> Hodge Washington?

1:18:45>> Yes.

1:18:45>> Gallego?

1:18:46>> Yes.

1:18:46>> Passes 8-0.

1:18:50>> All right. Thank you so much for the

1:18:51incredible work on the Rio. We will

1:18:52continue to

1:18:54invest in this

1:18:56legacy project for the city of Phoenix.

1:18:58Thank you to all the partners who worked

1:19:00so hard and continue to work with us

1:19:02every day. Congratulations on the

1:19:04unanimous passage.

1:19:06We next go to item 2123

1:19:09and a related item 124

1:19:12which is in District 7.

1:19:14Uh

1:19:15I understand we will have a brief

1:19:175-minute report from the applicant. Is

1:19:19that right to Councilwoman Hernandez and

1:19:20our staff? All right. So, we will

1:19:22welcome uh Lind- uh

1:19:25Open the public hearing and we will

1:19:26welcome

1:19:28uh Lindsey Schubeo on behalf of the

1:19:29applicant for 5 minutes.

1:19:33>> Um Mayor, Vice Mayor, council members,

1:19:36Lindsey Schubeo with the law firm of

1:19:38Gammage & Burnham here on behalf of

1:19:40Vintage Partners and Stream Realty. Uh

1:19:44Walter Crutchfield is also here. He will

1:19:46be part of the presentation.

1:19:50Uh the development team, Vintage

1:19:52Partners, Stream Realty Partners, Lo Ka

1:19:55Hi,

1:19:56Jamie Blakeman will get a special

1:19:57shout-out uh for all the great work she

1:20:00did, uh RBI, and Gammage & Burnham.

1:20:04Uh this really is a tale of partnership.

1:20:07Uh Mayor,

1:20:08you're aware you followed this very

1:20:10closely. Council members, um and of

1:20:12course District 7. This was a great tale

1:20:15of the city, city staff, Josh and his

1:20:18team working very closely with us.

1:20:21Vintage Partners, as many of you know,

1:20:23commercial developer in Phoenix, Uptown

1:20:26Plaza, um two affordable housing

1:20:29projects down um in the Laveen and

1:20:32Estrella area. Uh Rise Hotel, great uh

1:20:36multi-generational

1:20:37development partner of Phoenix.

1:20:40Also, Stream Realty. Uh they they are

1:20:43newish to Arizona. A national company

1:20:48uh ranked seventh nationally in

1:20:50development of commerce park projects,

1:20:52but most importantly, they have a local

1:20:53presence. Uh Ben Cooper, who is here,

1:20:56born and raised in Arizona, uh West

1:20:58side, and very happy to be working on

1:21:00this project and worked very closely uh

1:21:03not only with Josh and his team, as well

1:21:04as with the council district on this

1:21:06project. We're very excited of what but

1:21:08what this brings um

1:21:09>> [clears throat]

1:21:10>> to this project or to this part of town.

1:21:12So, why are we here? 65 acres. The

1:21:15current zoning is commerce park and

1:21:17general commerce park, A1C2.

1:21:20Uh we are surrounded by some undeveloped

1:21:22property to the north, the 202, uh as

1:21:25well as some single-family residential.

1:21:28This was a remnant parcel from the

1:21:30development of the 202. Uh the general

1:21:33plan is industrial, and again, as said,

1:21:36zoned commerce park and general commerce

1:21:39park. Uh Mary, I think if you know, when

1:21:42you originally uh thought of the

1:21:44development of the 202 and employment

1:21:45opportunities out here, and we're very

1:21:47excited to be bringing that that dream

1:21:49into fruition. So, what is our plan? We

1:21:52are rezoning to PUD, planned unit

1:21:54development, to allow for retail,

1:21:57which is very necessary down here, uh

1:22:00and as well as commerce park for uh

1:22:02hopefully an an great employment

1:22:04opportunity.

1:22:05So, 22 acres of commercial, uh

1:22:08neighborhood services.

1:22:10Uh we've been talking to a variety of

1:22:11different uses. We do not have a site

1:22:13plan at this time. You will see there is

1:22:15a condition of approval that when we

1:22:17have our site plan and elevations, that

1:22:18we do go to the Estrella Village um and

1:22:21share that with that community.

1:22:23The southern 43 acres, commerce park. It

1:22:27is consistent with the existing zoning

1:22:29now. However, with a bunch of arm

1:22:32wrestling from staff, uh sizable

1:22:34building setbacks, enhanced corner

1:22:36treatment design, decorative walls,

1:22:39shade, art, uh

1:22:42a lot of arm wrestling.

1:22:4463rd Street improvements, I won't go

1:22:46into the details, but I do want to say

1:22:48Chris Kowalski, I want to thank him for

1:22:49his work with Jamie Blakeman, our

1:22:51traffic engineer, as they um did a great

1:22:55job of negotiating all of the things

1:22:58everyone wants, right? We We want that

1:23:00bike lane. We also want landscape

1:23:02setbacks. We also want sidewalk. We want

1:23:05all the things. And so, between the two

1:23:07of them, they did a very fabulous job of

1:23:09getting everyone all of the things.

1:23:12Community outreach, we had two

1:23:13neighborhood meetings. The first one had

1:23:15four neighbors in attendance. The second

1:23:17one had one neighbor in attendance.

1:23:20And post the Planning Commission

1:23:22hearing, um Walter Crutchfield himself

1:23:24has reached out to uh the Estrellita

1:23:26Village Planning Committee chair, the

1:23:28Riverside School District

1:23:29Superintendent, as well as the Rio Del

1:23:31Rio Del Rey uh neighborhood homeowner.

1:23:34Uh so, with that, we do come to you with

1:23:36a recommendation of approval from staff,

1:23:38recommendation of approval from the

1:23:40Planning Commission, and Walter

1:23:42Crutchfield, which is like to close us

1:23:43out.

1:23:48>> Mayor Gallego, council members, it's an

1:23:50honor to be here today. I'm not going to

1:23:52go as far as to say it's historic, but

1:23:54it is definitely important.

1:23:57What was done here was

1:24:00uh elected officials came to us and

1:24:02said, "We think you can do better."

1:24:04And a less desirable use was pushed

1:24:06aside for a more desirable use, and

1:24:10something that was

1:24:11focused on the community. And it's what

1:24:14we're not seeing happening in our

1:24:16present political age, where there's

1:24:18trust built,

1:24:20uh there is hard work, and there's

1:24:22sacrifice.

1:24:23And we walked away from potentially

1:24:26additional millions of dollars in order

1:24:28to do this. We ask a question, why would

1:24:29you do that?

1:24:31You're just good guys, that's why you do

1:24:32it. No, you have to have convictions

1:24:34that are bigger than money. I'm I'm not

1:24:37going to pay attention to that. Is that

1:24:39okay, Mayor?

1:24:40>> Um, we will ask you a question so you

1:24:41can continue. Ask him a question. Or

1:24:44>> Why are you not going to

1:24:47>> I should turn on my mic.

1:24:48Walter, can you please elaborate a

1:24:50little bit more?

1:24:51>> Thank you.

1:24:53Mayor, Councilmember Hernandez. Um,

1:24:56because I think the opportunity here

1:24:59was,

1:25:00um,

1:25:01setting aside a value proposition for a

1:25:04bigger proposition, that of community.

1:25:07And as a Vintage Partners team, I think

1:25:09that is our reputation. We've done that

1:25:11all over the city.

1:25:13But we don't do that simply because we

1:25:15want to have people say, "What a good

1:25:16guy."

1:25:17No, we do it because we have a greater

1:25:19conviction, and that is we've

1:25:21we've we've received God's grace, so we

1:25:23show that, and that's exactly what this

1:25:25is. This is a demonstration of do the

1:25:28better thing. Uh, when the question is

1:25:31asked, "Are you your brother's keeper?"

1:25:32the answer is yes.

1:25:34And I'm proud of my partners, I'm proud

1:25:35of our investors that we were willing to

1:25:37do that, to set aside a less desirable

1:25:40use, uh, to come up with something that

1:25:43reflected what the community desired.

1:25:46And the second thing I would say, and

1:25:47last thing I would say, is this is

1:25:49probably the last time I'll be in front

1:25:50of you doing this, uh, as I have a great

1:25:53desire to retire and spend time with my

1:25:5513 grandchildren on the farm we just

1:25:57finished. But that is this, what gets

1:25:59rewarded gets repeated.

1:26:02And I would encourage you to be as brave

1:26:04as the Mayor was in setting forth the

1:26:07text amendment, and then pushing those

1:26:09conversations to inevitable conclusions,

1:26:13some of those difficult, as you have

1:26:15highlighted, uh, already, and some of

1:26:18those positive, which this is. And so,

1:26:22I'm proud to be a part of that. I'm

1:26:23proud to be a part of the city. Proud to

1:26:25work with you all as a team. And excited

1:26:28to open the doors of what this is going

1:26:30to be in terms of large-scale employment

1:26:33and retail development that's

1:26:34desperately needed in this area. Thank

1:26:37you.

1:26:39I Thank you, Lindsay, for that. This

1:26:41doesn't happen without an outstanding

1:26:43staff on your part. Josh and his team uh

1:26:47made this happen. They worked with us in

1:26:49partnership. Uh even I think potentially

1:26:52frustrating some people because they

1:26:54moved it along quickly and did a great

1:26:56job. And it would not have happened

1:26:58without the whole planning team. And we

1:27:00[clears throat] want to make sure to say

1:27:02we're incredibly grateful for them as

1:27:03well.

1:27:07>> Thank you so much. Really appreciate it.

1:27:09This is a project that really addressed

1:27:10the city's concerns about health and

1:27:11safety. And we're so thankful that you

1:27:14worked with us on that.

1:27:17Um we do have more speakers, but do you

1:27:18want to say anything before we

1:27:21Okay.

1:27:22>> Yeah, thank you, Mayor. I just want to

1:27:23cuz I I want to take the time really

1:27:25quick to thank Walter

1:27:27um

1:27:27because you really listened to the

1:27:30community. Um not just you, right? Your

1:27:33entire team. But you all really put so

1:27:36much importance into what the community

1:27:38voice was telling you, what they wanted

1:27:41to see for this area. And I think this

1:27:43is just such a good example of good

1:27:45partnership uh between a developer and

1:27:48the city, right? And the staff and the

1:27:49community.

1:27:51Um I don't I can't think of a better

1:27:52example anytime soon. Uh I think so many

1:27:56people should look at this um on how you

1:27:59really

1:28:00uh engaged in good faith with us, but

1:28:03most importantly with the community

1:28:05um to really make sure that their needs

1:28:07were met in this process.

1:28:09Um Um, you know, that it it's it's not

1:28:12always easy and I know there was

1:28:14frustrations on both ends, but I want to

1:28:16really thank you for just showing up how

1:28:19you showed up, um, you and the entire

1:28:21team and how you all were really good

1:28:24partners in this,

1:28:25um, because I think through this you

1:28:27have just earned yourself, uh, the trust

1:28:29and respect of residents in District 7,

1:28:32um, because of this project. Um, and as

1:28:35you said, none of this would be possible

1:28:37without the amazing staff that we have

1:28:39here at the city. Um, Josh, Trisha, the

1:28:42hours that you have put into this, um,

1:28:45you know, Nayeli, uh, Russell from from

1:28:47the your department, um, our village

1:28:49planner Nayeli and Chris Kowalski from

1:28:52streets. I mean, the the the time that

1:28:54was put into this, um, none of this

1:28:56happens with us individually, um, and I

1:28:59think this is just such a great example

1:29:02and I agree it doesn't happen often, um,

1:29:04but this is exactly how we all deliver

1:29:07for our shared communities and really do

1:29:09right by by them. So, thank you, Josh,

1:29:12the entire team. Thank you, Walter,

1:29:14Lindsey, the entire Vintage team, um,

1:29:16and all the partners for really

1:29:17delivering, um, a

1:29:19amazing project for District 7.

1:29:22Thank you, Mayor.

1:29:23>> Thank you, Councilman, and

1:29:24congratulations to you and to District

1:29:267.

1:29:27Uh, Jamie Blackman available to speak if

1:29:28necessary. We're good? Okay. Uh, then

1:29:31we'll go virtual public comment, uh, to

1:29:34our Village Planning Commission leader,

1:29:35Lisa Perez.

1:29:47Lisa, give us just a second.

1:30:04Lisa, we are showing you as a muted,

1:30:07but we we have not been able to hear

1:30:08you.

1:30:10Can you unmute yourself?

1:30:13>> I Yes.

1:30:15>> Oh, we just heard you. It was It

1:30:17It was a little faint.

1:30:18Can we get a sound check before you

1:30:19start?

1:30:25>> Hello. Can you hear me?

1:30:26>> All right, we can hear you. All right,

1:30:28thank you.

1:30:29>> Sorry about that. I guess I'm a little

1:30:31stunned at you, Mayor, members of the

1:30:33council. Thank you for the opportunity

1:30:34to speak today. I'm a little stunned by

1:30:37the

1:30:38conversations about the entire

1:30:39engagement of the community. I'm going

1:30:41to start by saying that there were two

1:30:42community meetings in the past that have

1:30:44been brought to you today is not what

1:30:45was presented to the community at all.

1:30:47So, I'll start with my comments and go

1:30:50from there. I'm I'm expressing my

1:30:51disappointment opposition to this

1:30:53project with all due respect to all of

1:30:55you and to Mr. Kretchmer.

1:30:57Um I know that you believe that this is

1:30:58the best project you can do the best you

1:30:59can do and I disagree. I mean and I'm

1:31:02absolutely aware of the circumstances of

1:31:03that at this point. We should do better.

1:31:06This part of the Straight Village is

1:31:08mostly residential. While the North

1:31:10Village is designated as a Southwest

1:31:12Employment Center, this area is home to

1:31:13hundreds if not thousands of homes that

1:31:15would be impacted by this amount of

1:31:16changing zone.

1:31:17When moving here, every person knows we

1:31:19have heavy traffic, but adding more

1:31:21without express approval from the

1:31:23community is just unhealthy.

1:31:25This council, goodness, when you put the

1:31:26only as perfect warehouse in our area

1:31:28that is surrounded on three sides by

1:31:30neighborhood. And only half of that a

1:31:32district 7 rep said would happen time.

1:31:34And now this problem project is going

1:31:36forward without

1:31:37going to the Straight Village plan

1:31:38community. It's incredibly

1:31:39disappointing.

1:31:41Now, when you move forward on this

1:31:43project, which I assume you will

1:31:44approve, it is important for you to

1:31:46understand that what the impact is when

1:31:49you have this kind of trucking with

1:31:51residential. You wouldn't do this

1:31:52anywhere else in the city and I don't

1:31:53know why that's okay. Why is it okay to

1:31:56tell the residents of my community that

1:31:57this is okay? Is our quality of life not

1:32:00as important as the rest of the city?

1:32:02We deserve quality development without

1:32:03having to testify or sending out the

1:32:05questionnaire. You all know better and

1:32:07so does your incredibly dedicated staff.

1:32:10Following your own ordinance without

1:32:11suspending the rules for certain

1:32:12developers and projects or make sure

1:32:14you're communicating your intention why

1:32:16they are hearing that will be

1:32:18In closing, October is National

1:32:20Community Planning Month. It is supposed

1:32:22to be a celebration of the way planning

1:32:24creates great communities. I ask that

1:32:26you all make sure you are considering

1:32:28and thinking about the community

1:32:30as you're doing so.

1:32:32Thank you for your time.

1:32:34>> Thank you.

1:32:37With that, I will close the public

1:32:38hearing and turn to Councilwoman

1:32:40Hernandez for motion.

1:32:44First on item 123.

1:32:46>> Thank [snorts] you, Mayor.

1:32:48I'm going to shuffle these up here. Uh

1:32:49motion to approve per the planning

1:32:51commission's recommendation and adopt

1:32:52the related resolution on item 123.

1:32:56>> Second.

1:32:57>> We have a motion and a second. Comments.

1:33:00Roll call.

1:33:02>> Hernandez.

1:33:03>> Yes.

1:33:03>> O'Brien.

1:33:05>> Yes.

1:33:05>> Pastor.

1:33:06>> Yes.

1:33:07>> Robinson.

1:33:08>> Yes.

1:33:08>> Stark.

1:33:09>> Yes.

1:33:10>> Wearing.

1:33:10>> Yes.

1:33:11>> Hodge-Washington.

1:33:12>> Yes.

1:33:12>> Gallego.

1:33:14>> Yes.

1:33:14>> Passes 8-0.

1:33:16Item 124.

1:33:19>> Uh motion to approve per the October

1:33:2220th, 2026 memo from the Planning and

1:33:25Development Director and adopt the

1:33:26related ordinance

1:33:28>> Second.

1:33:28>> on item 124.

1:33:30We have a motion and a second from

1:33:31Councilwoman Stark. Roll call.

1:33:33>> Hernandez.

1:33:34>> Yes.

1:33:35>> O'Brien.

1:33:36>> Yes.

1:33:37>> Pastor.

1:33:38>> Yes.

1:33:39>> Robinson.

1:33:39>> Yes.

1:33:40>> Stark.

1:33:41>> Yes.

1:33:42>> Wearing.

1:33:42>> Yes.

1:33:43>> Hodge-Washington.

1:33:44>> Yes.

1:33:44>> Gallego.

1:33:45>> Yes.

1:33:46>> Passes 8-0.

1:33:48>> Thank you so much.

1:33:51We next go to item 125, consideration of

1:33:54a citizen petition submitted by Ms.

1:33:56Elizabeth Venable.

1:33:58Uh Vice Mayor, do you have a motion?

1:34:01>> Yes, Mayor, the motion is to approve the

1:34:03staff recommendation as it as it entails

1:34:05to item 125.

1:34:07>> Second.

1:34:08>> We have a motion and a second from

1:34:09Councilwoman Stark. Is Elizabeth with us

1:34:11today?

1:34:16Elizabeth, it would be your floor if

1:34:17you'd like to speak.

1:34:20All right, I do not see Elizabeth. We'll

1:34:21turn to Councilwoman Hernandez who has a

1:34:23comment.

1:34:24>> Thank you, Mayor. And I just um you

1:34:26know, want to first thank Elizabeth for

1:34:28bringing this forward and I do have one

1:34:29question for Rachel from OHS.

1:34:32Um

1:34:34just for clarity.

1:34:41Thank you, Rachel. Um you know, this

1:34:43petition had to do around water the

1:34:44water situation at the SOS site. Um and

1:34:47I know that uh one of the things in the

1:34:50in the response in the staff

1:34:51recommendation was that we are uh s-

1:34:54we do test water regularly. Can you just

1:34:57elaborate a little bit on that and just

1:34:59make sure that um I just want to make

1:35:00sure that the public is is aware of that

1:35:02and hears that and we can just reiterate

1:35:04the how we handle that.

1:35:06>> Sure. Mayor, members of Council,

1:35:08Councilwoman Hernandez, um when we first

1:35:10heard that the water was too hot back at

1:35:12the July City Council meeting, we we did

1:35:15test the water at that time and adjusted

1:35:16it down and it had gotten um hot

1:35:19especially in our two new ADA trailers.

1:35:22Um and since that time we've checked

1:35:23checked it periodically. Um however,

1:35:26since the citizen petition was submitted

1:35:282 weeks ago now, we've checked it daily.

1:35:30>> Okay, thank you. And and do we plan on

1:35:32continuing like what is the schedule

1:35:34that we will maintain um moving forward?

1:35:36>> Councilwoman Hernandez, especially as

1:35:38we're just starting to get a little bit

1:35:39chillier weather, we're looking at um

1:35:41checking the water temperature um daily

1:35:44for the next couple of weeks and then

1:35:45moving to uh once a week um

1:35:48uh

1:35:48temperature check.

1:35:49>> Okay, thank you so much for that. I just

1:35:51want to make sure that the

1:35:52Elizabeth and the public are aware of

1:35:54that we do

1:35:55continuously

1:35:57check that and make sure so we can get

1:35:59ahead of issues hopefully in the future.

1:36:01That's pretty much all my my question.

1:36:04>> Thank you, Vice Mayor.

1:36:05Thank you. I just want to follow up on

1:36:07the on the question.

1:36:09Had OHS or the SOS partners received any

1:36:12complaints prior to the citizens

1:36:14petition regarding the shower

1:36:16temperature at the

1:36:19>> Mayor and members of council about Vice

1:36:21Mayor Hodge Washington. The only

1:36:23complaint we have received was in July,

1:36:26but since that time we have not received

1:36:27complaints. We've been asking people as

1:36:29they come out of the shower

1:36:31since the citizens petition was

1:36:33was

1:36:34presented 2 weeks ago and we have not

1:36:36had any complaints since that time.

1:36:38>> And it might be worth repeating, what

1:36:40are the processes that are available for

1:36:42anyone who resides at the SOS to raise a

1:36:45complaint shy of a citizens petition?

1:36:48>> Vice Mayor Hodge Washington, specific to

1:36:50the showers, we do have a staff person

1:36:52who monitors the showers as they are

1:36:54open every day from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00

1:36:56p.m. So they can bring those issues

1:36:58directly if they're shower related

1:37:00directly to that staff person. In

1:37:02addition to that, we have

1:37:04a grievance procedure at the safe

1:37:06outdoor space, both one that goes

1:37:08straight to staff and then an anonymous

1:37:10grievance procedure as well.

1:37:12>> And can you talk a little bit more about

1:37:13the grievance procedure? For example, is

1:37:16there like do they get responses to the

1:37:18individual that has filed the grievance

1:37:20and is there a time frame for those

1:37:23grievances to be processed?

1:37:24>> Vice Mayor Hodge Washington, I can get

1:37:26back to you on the specific time frame,

1:37:28but yes, we follow up on all grievances

1:37:30that are that are brought to staff

1:37:32directly. The anonymous grievances will

1:37:35answer in a more general way via town

1:37:37hall. Our next town hall is November 6th

1:37:40at the safe outdoor space.

1:37:41>> Okay. And just for anyone that might be

1:37:43listening, including residents at the

1:37:45SOS, Um, are some of the issues that are

1:37:48permissible to be brought up at the town

1:37:50hall conversations?

1:37:52>> Sure, Vice Mayor Hodge Washington. We

1:37:54typically have an agenda of things that

1:37:55we want to talk about if there are

1:37:57things that we've heard bubble up. Um,

1:37:59this town hall is really based on

1:38:01workforce opportunities. We have a new

1:38:03program at the town hall um, with St.

1:38:05Vincent [clears throat] de Paul that

1:38:06we're going to highlight, but it's also

1:38:08an opportunity for people to bring up

1:38:09issues that they have that um, may be

1:38:11food related or shower related, things

1:38:14that have to do with a site that we are

1:38:15able to address.

1:38:16>> Thank you so much for that. Those are my

1:38:18questions, Mayor. Thank you.

1:38:20>> Thank you.

1:38:22All right. Roll call.

1:38:25>> Hernandez.

1:38:26>> Yes.

1:38:27>> O'Brien.

1:38:28>> Sorry.

1:38:29>> Staff recommendation is

1:38:34>> Staff recommendation is to deny the

1:38:35petition since the Office of Homeless

1:38:37Solutions staff has already addressed

1:38:39the water temperature issue.

1:38:40>> staff recommendation. I would have

1:38:41[laughter] confused. So, yes.

1:38:44>> O'Brien.

1:38:45>> Yes.

1:38:45>> Pastor.

1:38:46>> Yes.

1:38:47>> Robinson.

1:38:48>> Yes.

1:38:48>> Stark.

1:38:49>> Yes.

1:38:50>> Waring.

1:38:50>> Yes.

1:38:51>> Hodge Washington.

1:38:52>> Yes.

1:38:53>> Gallego.

1:38:53>> Yes.

1:38:54>> Passes 8-0.

1:38:57>> Thank you. That concludes our agenda as

1:38:58business and I'll turn to the city

1:39:00attorney to introduce the final portion

1:39:01of the meeting.

1:39:02>> Thank you, Mayor. During citizen

1:39:04comment, members of the public may speak

1:39:05to the city council for up to 3 minutes

1:39:07on issues of interest or concern.

1:39:10However, the matters addressed must be

1:39:11within the jurisdiction of the Phoenix

1:39:13City Council and on which the council

1:39:15has the authority to act. The citizen

1:39:17comment session is limited to 30

1:39:19minutes. The Arizona Open Meeting Law

1:39:21allows the city council to listen to

1:39:23comments, but prohibits council members

1:39:25from discussing or acting on the issues

1:39:27presented. However, council members may

1:39:29respond to criticism. Thank you.

1:39:32>> Thank you so much. And we do if we don't

1:39:35have time for everyone at the meeting

1:39:36before, we do take uh, the people who

1:39:38were unable to speak

1:39:40at the start of the meeting. So, today

1:39:41we will begin with Bill uh, William Monk

1:39:44and and appreciate his patience and then

1:39:47followed by Leonard Clark.

1:39:49>> One photo.

1:39:51Picture guys.

1:40:40Good afternoon. I My name is William

1:40:42Monk and I live in the Monarch

1:40:44subdivision, which is the first

1:40:45subdivision built directly across from

1:40:47the East Mesa Landing data center.

1:40:49The pictures you have in front of you, I

1:40:51wanted to go over them to you cuz

1:40:52they're a little more current.

1:40:54The first picture on the left is taken

1:40:56in the backyard of the closest house to

1:40:57this project. It's about 125 ft away.

1:41:00Unfortunately, that was about 3:00 a.m.,

1:41:02which is 2 hours prior to construction.

1:41:06The second one is a house approximately

1:41:08150 ft from directly west and across

1:41:1148th Street

1:41:13from the data center.

1:41:15The data center's

1:41:17original property zoning was 48 ft. It

1:41:20has been approved and changed and

1:41:22changed. And they're now asking for a

1:41:24height of 59 ft for the building

1:41:27with everything else being added to the

1:41:29top of that, which is not included.

1:41:31We're looking at approximately 74 ft. If

1:41:34you'll see that right now, that's

1:41:35basically about 59 ft.

1:41:39Number three is kind of a street view

1:41:41from 48th Street of the building one and

1:41:44two of the data center being

1:41:45constructed.

1:41:47The one on the left is a picture from my

1:41:49front yard approximately 1200 ft from

1:41:51the data center.

1:41:53And number five is basically a side view

1:41:56with a drone view of the top of the data

1:41:58center

1:41:59on the curve of Thistle Landing through

1:42:02the 48th intersection.

1:42:05Again, this is a property that was zoned

1:42:08to be light industrial.

1:42:09This is a heavy industrial property that

1:42:12is being utilized in the wrong way.

1:42:16We have um

1:42:17continued to see nothing but noise

1:42:20interruptions

1:42:22and we don't even have a clear ideal of

1:42:25how this property is going to be cooled.

1:42:27We've been told it was going to be

1:42:28forced air then a closed loop brochure

1:42:31was presented to us.

1:42:33This is on 38 acres.

1:42:35Um when this was approved general

1:42:37originally

1:42:38uh none of the hyper data centers that

1:42:40were in unused were even looked at.

1:42:44The closest one to us would have been in

1:42:45Oregon, Prineville.

1:42:47It was done by Meta. It's on 120 acres.

1:42:50This is 38 acres. That one's 4.6 million

1:42:53square feet. This is 1.1.

1:42:56It only generates and requests use of

1:42:59157 megawatts of power.

1:43:02This one is 50%

1:43:05in buildings but yet asking for 100

1:43:08additional megawatts of power.

1:43:11In other words, they're going to be

1:43:12doubling the amount of servers in five

1:43:14buildings which is going to create a

1:43:16more possible heat island than usual

1:43:20as well as potential fire problems. I

1:43:22encourage you to continue to take a look

1:43:24at this and work with the city and

1:43:26planning department to see if we can

1:43:27write this wrong. Thank you.

1:43:31>> Thank you so much. Leonard is next

1:43:33followed by Haley Handcock.

1:43:38>> Uh thank you, Mayor and Council members.

1:43:40Uh I just have several things I wanted

1:43:41to speak on.

1:43:42First is the high cost of diesel fuel

1:43:45and fuel for our residents of Phoenix

1:43:47and the surrounding areas. I'm not sure

1:43:49I know that you

1:43:51you can't directly intervene, but I'm

1:43:52just wondering if the situation

1:43:54continues to worsen

1:43:56uh and the price per barrel of oil

1:43:58continues to go up,

1:44:00uh many families could be in the Phoenix

1:44:04City of Phoenix and around our city

1:44:05could be

1:44:06uh not being able to put enough food on

1:44:09the table just like our hard-working

1:44:10truck drivers who live in the City of

1:44:12Phoenix are now having a hard time

1:44:13making ends meet. So, I don't know if we

1:44:16could come up with more plans. I know we

1:44:17have excellent organizations like St.

1:44:19Vincent de Paul and these other

1:44:20organizations, but even maybe look more

1:44:22closely at the situation. I know you

1:44:25can't help it. You can't help the

1:44:26policies in Washington, D.C., but our

1:44:29residents are beginning to even suffer

1:44:31more and more.

1:44:32Uh and it's a real shame. Our economy

1:44:34could be doing good. And then also uh

1:44:37even though I never went I'd like to go,

1:44:39but uh it's uh saying here Phoenix

1:44:41Symphony is suspending its 26-27 season

1:44:45due to severe

1:44:46financial shortfalls.

1:44:48And I do think that's a mark of our city

1:44:50is to have that. So, maybe we could look

1:44:52into that. And then uh

1:44:54finally, look, I'm not a saint, but I

1:44:56know that in Phoenix it used to be break

1:44:58on yellow, stop on red. But as I'm

1:45:00driving around in Phoenix and the other

1:45:01uh surrounding areas,

1:45:03uh I'm just seeing people run red

1:45:05lights. Like

1:45:07you you really have to drive

1:45:08defensively. You have to hesitate. I'm

1:45:11just asking our fellow residents and the

1:45:13people of the City of Phoenix and the

1:45:15surrounding areas,

1:45:16please try, you know, don't run the red

1:45:19lights. I mean, it's not even like

1:45:21close. I mean, the light will be red and

1:45:23they will just go through it.

1:45:25So, uh I'm hoping we can do something

1:45:27about that. And uh and finally, I'm

1:45:29going to sound like an old man here, but

1:45:30we complain about light pollution,

1:45:32right? For astronomers, we complain

1:45:34about air pollution, people have to go

1:45:36smoke in a designated area.

1:45:38What about the noise pollution? I mean,

1:45:40I know I sound old, but these people no

1:45:43offense against all of you that have

1:45:44Mustangs and your power cars, but I

1:45:46mean, some of your engines are like

1:45:48sound like they're competing with

1:45:49airplane engines. There is a such a

1:45:51thing as noise pollution. It affects our

1:45:53children. And I know that this is not in

1:45:55just in the city of Phoenix, but the

1:45:57noise ordinances, why our young people,

1:45:59our older people, the old guys trying to

1:46:01be 20 again with the gold necklace

1:46:03around their necks. Sorry if you wear a

1:46:05gold necklace, but what I'm saying is

1:46:07it's just so loud. And you know, it

1:46:10doesn't just stress me out. Noise, you

1:46:12know, science scientists have pointed

1:46:13this out. High levels of noise decibels

1:46:16can affect people. So, I'm wondering if

1:46:19you can check on that. So, thank you so

1:46:21much. I am very impressed today. You did

1:46:23a lot of great things, I think, for the

1:46:24citizens of Phoenix and surrounding

1:46:26areas, particularly regarding hunger and

1:46:28all of these other things. So, thank you

1:46:30so much and I hope you guys have a

1:46:31beautiful whenever we see you again.

1:46:33Thank you. Stay safe.

1:46:36>> Thank you.

1:46:38Haley Handcut is next, followed by

1:46:40Stephen Johns.

1:46:42>> Oh, my name is Haley Handcut. Um I just

1:46:45wanted to say that um all in all, I

1:46:47think Phoenix is is improving. I do want

1:46:49to say that it down by

1:46:53the bottom part of the courthouse and

1:46:56around the jail, it just feels like um

1:46:59they're not putting back in the the

1:47:01right the right um

1:47:03>> [clears throat]

1:47:04>> um bottoms for around the jail. I think

1:47:07it's still a little bit too high around

1:47:0919th Avenue.

1:47:13Like

1:47:18>> Thank you.

1:47:19Stephen is next, followed by William

1:47:21Lockwood.

1:47:27Steven Jones, if you could sort of

1:47:28indicate your

1:47:31He chose not to speak. Okay, thank you.

1:47:32That's very helpful.

1:47:35Um

1:47:37William Lockwood

1:47:42No William Lockwood, okay.

1:47:43Uh

1:47:44Natalie Miller, you said what Okay.

1:47:47And then

1:47:48Andrew Frank Morehead

1:47:56>> Hi, I'm Natalie Miller. I do stay at the

1:47:58SOS. Um the water

1:48:01heat thing has been corrected, but two

1:48:03of those um

1:48:04ramped base bathrooms that have two

1:48:07other regular bathrooms attached to them

1:48:09have been sealed off.

1:48:11So, the hot water doesn't matter.

1:48:13They have not fixed them. All of the

1:48:15other bathrooms, they have the sinks

1:48:17turned off in where they're just toilets

1:48:19and sinks. So, you have to go outside

1:48:22after when and wash your hands outside,

1:48:25which is a sanitation issue.

1:48:27Um most of the showers have

1:48:29um

1:48:30they're filthy, they have cracks in

1:48:31them, um

1:48:33all kinds of things are broken. Toilets

1:48:35hanging off walls, toilets you sit on

1:48:36that fall over.

1:48:38These are

1:48:39rented or units or whatever that are not

1:48:41being maintained, and a lot of people

1:48:43say, "Well, the people have destroyed

1:48:44them."

1:48:45I could fix them.

1:48:46My parents are landlords. They won't let

1:48:48us even to have Ajax in there and clean

1:48:50them.

1:48:51Um so, it's more than an issue of heat.

1:48:54I'd like to say something about

1:48:55something I've lived through

1:48:57having to do with homeless if um for my

1:48:59own personal thing is

1:49:01it's about fentanyl overdoses.

1:49:03Um I've witnessed many people that I

1:49:05know homeless on the street die.

1:49:08And fentanyl is different than heroin.

1:49:10People It turns down your circuitry.

1:49:12Doesn't It's not like opioid with heroin

1:49:14where your suppression of your heart and

1:49:15your breath.

1:49:16I've seen multiple people just be put in

1:49:18ambulance and not use the defibrillator.

1:49:20You know, where they do not use the

1:49:21defibrillator on which they need their

1:49:23electricity shocked back on cuz that's

1:49:25what fentanyl does. It turns off your

1:49:27circuitry.

1:49:29So, I have seen countless countless

1:49:30people and I mean a lot

1:49:32taken away who could have been shocked

1:49:34and resuscitated who needed to be

1:49:37defibrillated.

1:49:38So, that is not happening because the

1:49:40people's hearts are hard and they're

1:49:41just they think they're not worthy. And

1:49:43I've done CPR on multiple people and um

1:49:47had someone revived to only have to have

1:49:50the

1:49:52by the time the ambulance got there and

1:49:53I had to get away from the situation,

1:49:55they said she's dead.

1:49:56And she I had brought her back to color

1:49:58from looking dead with my own CPR.

1:50:02And they came brought her up dead.

1:50:04We and they weren't willing to do a

1:50:06shock or anything and I was just like,

1:50:08"What are you talking about?"

1:50:09So, many people So, fentanyl is

1:50:11different than heroin. It is

1:50:15circuitry shut off. Those people should

1:50:17be defibrillated and be given a chance

1:50:19to live because that's and it's not

1:50:21being done.

1:50:23Um

1:50:24What else can I say?

1:50:29The stigma of homeless

1:50:31the umbrella

1:50:33When people think of homeless people,

1:50:34they think of every other stigma as

1:50:36raindrops. I've walked around with these

1:50:37stigma of what people think of me

1:50:40because I'm homeless.

1:50:42I have no criminal history.

1:50:44I'm not a drug addict.

1:50:45And I used to be a Scottsdale school bus

1:50:47driver, CNA, and a live-in nanny. I'm a

1:50:49widow.

1:50:50And I have many issues and my issues are

1:50:52my private issues.

1:50:54And but the stigma is heavy.

1:50:56Please change your mindsets and hearts

1:50:57and look into stuff.

1:50:59Thank you.

1:51:01>> Thank you.

1:51:02Andrew is next followed by Connie

1:51:04Rothgeb.

1:51:11Andrew

1:51:12could you indicate your here? Andrew

1:51:13Frankmorehead.

1:51:18All right, I do not see Andrew. We will

1:51:19go to Connie followed by Edwin.

1:51:22We have Connie and Edwin?

1:51:24>> [clears throat]

1:51:26>> Connie, Edwin?

1:51:28All right.

1:51:29Uh Navlin Samuel followed by Tim

1:51:32Sierakowski. Navlin and I'm sorry for

1:51:35I'm not doing well with names today.

1:51:36Navlin Navlin? All right.

1:51:53>> Okay.

1:51:55I don't know how this work, but I'm here

1:51:56because of mental

1:51:58health abuse.

1:52:02Basically,

1:52:04I ended up in mental health

1:52:07for wrong reasons.

1:52:09And um I noticed that when they give you

1:52:12the medication,

1:52:13your body starts changing.

1:52:16You start gaining weight. Now people ask

1:52:18me if I'm pregnant. I went from 95 lbs

1:52:22and so forth, now I'm 200 and

1:52:2570-something lbs

1:52:27>> [laughter]

1:52:27>> because I'm taking medication that's not

1:52:29doing right for my

1:52:31for my body.

1:52:32I should not be walking down the street

1:52:34and someone say, "Congratulations.

1:52:36You're pregnant."

1:52:39>> [clears throat]

1:52:39>> You know what I'm saying?

1:52:41So, it's very hard to look [laughter] at

1:52:44the public and say, "No, I'm not." And

1:52:47they say, "No, yeah you are."

1:52:49You know, so

1:52:51I just want to address that issue.

1:52:54I'm not going to keep you guys any

1:52:55longer.

1:52:56>> Thank you. I'm very sorry. Tim is next

1:52:59followed by Jeremy.

1:53:01>> [clears throat]

1:53:07>> Good afternoon. Thank you, Tim

1:53:09Surakowski.

1:53:11Recently, the Arizona Supreme Court

1:53:14passed new

1:53:17rules of record requests.

1:53:20And I'm not sure if the city is still

1:53:21following it or not because we have

1:53:24record requests which have been

1:53:25outstanding for months and months.

1:53:28And according to the new rules, you have

1:53:29a certain time period that you now must

1:53:32respond to. And if you don't respond to

1:53:35the new rules, and we have to hire an

1:53:37attorney once again to get this

1:53:40information, the city is going to be

1:53:42held liable for our attorney fees. So,

1:53:44I'm trying to figure out when we're

1:53:46going to start getting our record

1:53:47request in a timely manner.

1:53:50Two or three months is too long.

1:53:54I know you guys are protecting

1:53:56yourselves, but there should be some

1:53:58ethical basis of trying to produce these

1:54:00records in a timely manner.

1:54:03And they're not being produced.

1:54:06Second thing I want to really talk about

1:54:07is the new master plan for the Parks

1:54:10Department.

1:54:13They're spending a million dollars for a

1:54:15plan that does not incorporate

1:54:173/4 of the park.

1:54:20Why are we spending a million dollars on

1:54:22something that's not a master plan, but

1:54:25one specific segment of the park?

1:54:28We heard earlier today at a subcommittee

1:54:30meeting that they are going to

1:54:33add all this other stuff later. Well,

1:54:35how come they're not doing it now?

1:54:38When I hear master plan, I hear in in

1:54:41the back of my head saying, "All of this

1:54:43stuff has to be integrated together."

1:54:46This new master plan is not taking golf

1:54:48courses.

1:54:50Why not? It's not taking in any of the

1:54:53part any of the

1:54:54the preserves in in town. Why not?

1:54:59I it's I'm baffled by it at the present

1:55:02time, and I'm just not understanding why

1:55:03we're spending a million dollars. Plus,

1:55:05he's taken 3 years to do this plan.

1:55:08It's already outdated.

1:55:10So, why are we spending a million

1:55:12dollars? For what?

1:55:15Earlier, we also talked about the golf

1:55:17courses, and I want to go back to the

1:55:18golf courses.

1:55:21You guys let ASU have Papago Golf Course

1:55:23for about 200, 300 thousand dollars a

1:55:26year. The proper evaluation, the

1:55:28property's value is 42 million dollars.

1:55:33Sell it to ASU. If ASU wants a golf

1:55:36course, sell it to them.

1:55:38200, 300 thousand dollars wouldn't pay

1:55:41interest on the money.

1:55:44Grand Canyon, same way.

1:55:46Sell it to them.

1:55:48Current market value of the property.

1:55:51Everyone said they would keep the price

1:55:52of golf down at both these places. It's

1:55:55outrageous how much it costs to play at

1:55:57these two golf courses, and no one's

1:55:59checking at the present time. So,

1:56:01Papago, they get to build something for

1:56:03a million dollars, but the property's

1:56:06worth 40 million.

1:56:07I think we should sell them. Thank you.

1:56:13>> Thank you. Jeremy is next, followed by

1:56:15John Ziegler.

1:56:25>> So, Jerry is submitting a citizen

1:56:27petitions today, and I want to make sure

1:56:29that they actually

1:56:31get in today. So,

1:56:33uh can we bring them now? Yeah.

1:56:35Here he's got

1:56:36Um we're submitting 16

1:56:38separate citizen petitions today.

1:56:41Um

1:56:43two of them should have been part of

1:56:44last week's. They're what Kristen

1:56:45submitted, and they weren't honored for

1:56:47some reason.

1:56:48Uh

1:56:50The other 14 are on executive sessions.

1:56:54Executive sessions are when you exclude

1:56:57the public from public meetings.

1:56:59Uh

1:57:01There's not a single instance of

1:57:03executive session

1:57:06in the code

1:57:07or the charter.

1:57:09We have no idea

1:57:11how you operate them. You hold them in a

1:57:15location that's

1:57:16we can't get to as the public. We can't

1:57:17see who goes in, who comes out, what

1:57:19time it started.

1:57:20Uh

1:57:22just taking your word for it. So, we're

1:57:23asking you to actually make the public

1:57:26aware of the rules of how you hold

1:57:28executive sessions.

1:57:29Simple ask, we should know that. If

1:57:31you're going to exclude us, tell us how

1:57:33it works.

1:57:34Tell us the rules.

1:57:36Put them out there, make them available.

1:57:38So, we've asked for very specific

1:57:39questions. We don't want staff's We

1:57:41don't want you to vote on staff's

1:57:42recommendations. That's what we're

1:57:44asking. We're asking you to vote on our

1:57:46recommendations.

1:57:48So, our petitions address that. We're

1:57:50asking for one legal action,

1:57:52which is for you to vote

1:57:54on the measures that we put forward.

1:57:56Not staff's recommendation. If they want

1:57:58to put them forward, that's fine, but

1:57:59that's staff's petition, not ours.

1:58:03Ours are explained.

1:58:04Thank you.

1:58:07>> Thank you. John is next, followed by

1:58:08Candace Washington.

1:58:15And if John Ziegler is here, could you

1:58:18indicate?

1:58:22All right. Did you not see John? Candace

1:58:23is next.

1:58:25Followed by Richard Vannick.

1:58:35>> Good evening, Mayor and members of the

1:58:36council. My name is Candace Washington,

1:58:38and I am here today as a mother, as a

1:58:41concerned parent, as someone who

1:58:42believes in every family deserves

1:58:44fairness, accountability, and real

1:58:47chances to be heard. I am speaking out

1:58:50about the Department of Child uh Safety

1:58:53[clears throat]

1:58:54and how allegations and some sometimes

1:58:58are treated as facts without full

1:59:01with without full and careful

1:59:03investigations.

1:59:04Protecting children is essential.

1:59:07Treating parents fairly and respectfully

1:59:09do do process is also essential. My

1:59:13concern is what happens when allegations

1:59:16is accepted as truth before the facts

1:59:19are fully examined. What happens when

1:59:21the parents dispu- dispute um an

1:59:24allegation, often evidence offer

1:59:28evidence, and ask questions, but feel

1:59:30unheard? What happens when parents are

1:59:33pa- What What [clears throat] happens

1:59:34when parents past is given more weight

1:59:37than their present actions?

1:59:39Or when their efforts to explain are

1:59:43overlooked?

1:59:45In our own In In my own situation, I'm

1:59:47not asking for the council to look at

1:59:50that. I am concerned about what happens

1:59:52to families when the Department of

1:59:55Department of Child Safety

1:59:57their communication and their

1:59:59allegations go through as

2:00:02truth without proper investigations.

2:00:05Thank you, City Council, for hearing.

2:00:07Thank you.

2:00:08>> Thank you.

2:00:09>> Can I respond to him, Mayor?

2:00:10>> Yes, Mayor.

2:00:11>> Thank you. I just think it's important

2:00:13for the

2:00:14um

2:00:15the speaker to recognize that the

2:00:16Department of Child Safety is not under

2:00:19the purview of City Council.

2:00:21So, I I am sympathetic to your concerns,

2:00:24but this is probably not the best

2:00:26tribunal. It's

2:00:27I just wanted to share that.

2:00:29We can talk to you after.

2:00:33>> Thank you, everybody. Uh my name is

2:00:35Richard Vanek. Ladies and gentlemen,

2:00:37colleagues, fellow citizens, we're here

2:00:39today to address escalating incidents

2:00:42threats our nation's sovereignty, our

2:00:44people's fundamental sovereignty,

2:00:46freedoms from transnational repression.

2:00:48Transnational repression is

2:00:52uh you have

2:00:54five executive orders, you have nine

2:00:56federal laws that have been made. Now, I

2:00:59am a victim of transnational repression.

2:01:02My wife was born 100 miles from the

2:01:04North Korean border.

2:01:06>> sounds very important. We do need you to

2:01:07connect it to something under our

2:01:08jurisdiction, okay?

2:01:10>> Okay, I will. I'm sorry, ma'am.

2:01:12Uh I was trying to get housing uh of

2:01:15through uh CAS, and I was also trying to

2:01:18get housing through Justice Center. They

2:01:20denied me.

2:01:21Okay? I was here last time, and I would

2:01:23like to ask for forgiveness on how I

2:01:25asked, okay? Because my wife is missing

2:01:28of 34 years. I don't know where she's

2:01:30at. Uh we were renting a house from a uh

2:01:35Korean, and basically my wife just went

2:01:38sideways on me. Transnational repression

2:01:40is a very serious thing. It is a mental

2:01:43problem. Now, my wife has to do

2:01:46interpretation, translation,

2:01:47transliteration to understand, and do

2:01:49back the other way. So, she can't

2:01:50understand what I was trying to explain

2:01:52to her.

2:01:53Uh what I'm saying to you is, you know,

2:01:57this is very, very serious, okay? Our

2:01:59Lord Jesus Christ came here for a

2:02:00reason, to expose things that are here

2:02:03that he went through. It's the same

2:02:05exact program. If you look at

2:02:07Revelations 9:12, it's a red the red

2:02:09dragon rising. Now, if you look at our

2:02:11flag, the flag has seven red stripes.

2:02:13Those red stripes represent the seven

2:02:15continents. Six white stripes represent

2:02:18the man [clears throat] king that is

2:02:20running everything till Jesus Christ

2:02:21comes back, and it's seven it's double

2:02:23perfection, okay? The blue banther's

2:02:25James 3:8, okay? Treat your neighbors as

2:02:28yourself, and you have according to the

2:02:29scriptures, you have done well. The

2:02:31stars are not like what you guys say.

2:02:34It's not you guys, all right? It's the

2:02:36sun you got the sun, the moon, and

2:02:39uh the star uh

2:02:41the Christians, basically. We're last in

2:02:43line. Everyone wants to get mad at the

2:02:44Muslims. No, we're last. All right? The

2:02:46word mer means

2:02:49water.

2:02:50Water flows through the river.

2:02:52Like cur, currency. [clears throat]

2:02:54Okay? Now, we have false brethren

2:02:56unaware came in privately to steal our

2:02:58liberty which we have in Christ Jesus. I

2:03:01am a victim. I am homeless. I just got

2:03:04evicted from my place that I'm at. Now,

2:03:07the place I got evicted from today, all

2:03:09right? The guy's mom works for Justice

2:03:12Center. What Rudy did over at Justice

2:03:15Center is trying to cover his tracks

2:03:16from going and denying me care. Okay? Me

2:03:20and the manager of that place, Dan, all

2:03:22right? He got kind of belligerent on me.

2:03:25He wanted to get violent. I don't have a

2:03:27problem. I got 5 years in martial arts

2:03:28and a couple other things. You want to

2:03:29mix it up, let's rock. All right? But,

2:03:31that's not what I'm supposed to do. I

2:03:33ended up in jail for no reason because

2:03:35of that Detective Faith

2:03:37on the Brady list put me there.

2:03:39I'm asking for help, please. This can

2:03:41happen to anyone in this room. All

2:03:43right? Like I say, transnational

2:03:45repression is very, very serious. Very,

2:03:48very serious.

2:03:48>> you for that testimony. Jerry Vangas is

2:03:51next followed by Shannon Brown.

2:04:05>> Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.

2:04:07Uh

2:04:08Tim and Jeremy have uh

2:04:10basically said most of what I was going

2:04:13to say. But,

2:04:14you know, this is this was has come to

2:04:17our last recourse through the city are

2:04:20these citizen petition.

2:04:22Uh

2:04:23Our attorneys and uh others

2:04:26at the Center for Law in the Public

2:04:28Interest have filed numerous record

2:04:30requests through you know, since the

2:04:32start of the pandemic basically.

2:04:34And have met with

2:04:36you know, uh ignored

2:04:39and then with on, you know, after they

2:04:42follow up months later with a demand

2:04:44letter

2:04:45we get a paltry smattering of records.

2:04:49Uh knowing full well there's more and

2:04:51we've gotten more from other sources.

2:04:53So, we know they're not providing

2:04:55everything.

2:04:57So, I mean it's really simple.

2:04:59Just follow the law. The law says

2:05:02these records have to be produced

2:05:05in a timely manner.

2:05:07They can't sit on them forever.

2:05:09And uh so, you know,

2:05:11uh there are other recourses outside of

2:05:14city. And uh we're going to avail our

2:05:16and the center for law has already said

2:05:18they'll help us avail ourselves of those

2:05:20court recourses.

2:05:22So, uh

2:05:23just follow the law again.

2:05:28>> Thank you, Shannon.

2:05:34Hi, can everyone hear me?

2:05:36>> We can.

2:05:37>> Okay. Good afternoon, Mayor, Vice Mayor,

2:05:39and Council members. My name is Shannon

2:05:41Brown. I'm a small business owner with a

2:05:43background in health, biochemistry, and

2:05:44science education. I'm also a District 6

2:05:46resident member of the Ahwatukee

2:05:48Community Alliance and I live about a

2:05:50mile from the Menlo Digital Data Center

2:05:51at 40th Street in The Settlement.

2:05:54This is an industrial project by any

2:05:56standard. It covers 38 acres with five

2:05:58buildings totally nearly 1 million

2:06:00square feet. It will draw 257 megawatts

2:06:03enough to power 154,000 to 205,000

2:06:07homes. That's four to five times the

2:06:09number of homes in all of Ahwatukee.

2:06:12Menlo's filings with Maricopa County

2:06:14show 72 Caterpillar diesel generators on

2:06:17just the first three building buildings

2:06:19with 120 planned overall. And there are

2:06:2124 planned tier two generators which

2:06:24will release nitrogen oxides and fine

2:06:26particulate matter next to homes on

2:06:28three sides. The completed project will

2:06:30have 5,880 cooling fans running 24/7

2:06:35365.

2:06:36The health impacts are real. Chronic

2:06:38exposure to low-frequency noise is

2:06:41linked to vibroacoustic disease, which

2:06:43causes calcification in the arteries of

2:06:46the heart and lungs. I encourage you to

2:06:48look it up.

2:06:49Air pollution will increase asthma,

2:06:51bronchitis, and sinus infection, and

2:06:52we're already seeing it. Anna Marshall

2:06:54lives 150 ft from the site and has taken

2:06:56her son to the doctor multiple times

2:06:58this year for sinus infections she

2:07:00attributes to the construction dust

2:07:02because he didn't have those symptoms

2:07:03before.

2:07:05I have two questions for you. First, did

2:07:07you know the original General Commerce

2:07:09Park zoning from 1996 does not allow

2:07:11industrial projects?

2:07:13It light industrial, but not heavy like

2:07:15this. Why did this move forward? The

2:07:17original preliminary site plan showed a

2:07:19substation, which was a clear indicator

2:07:21this project was heavy industrial from

2:07:23the very beginning. Second, did you know

2:07:25the General Commerce Park stipulations

2:07:27predate Prop 207? No new land use law

2:07:30devalued Menlo's property. So, Menlo has

2:07:33no claim for damages, and the city has

2:07:34no obligation to grant waivers. Menlo

2:07:37knew what it was buying. The property

2:07:39was never zoned for heavy industrial.

2:07:41Fear of litigation is not a reason to

2:07:43ignore your constituents' concerns for

2:07:45their health and well-being.

2:07:47Thank you.

2:07:49>> Thank you for that testimony. That

2:07:50concludes our public comment for today.

2:07:52We are adjourned.