2026-10-12 - City Council Work Session

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  • Council approved unanimously a resolution adopting the El Paso Museum of Art strategic plan "Frontera Forward" for FY 2027 through FY 2031, presented ahead of the museum's 2027 national reaccreditation. Its four goals cover embodying El Paso, expanding frontiers through art, being a destination for all, and strengthening fundraising, the art school and partnerships.
  • Members asked about visitor-origin data, art school expansion, fundraising capacity and local artist exhibitions; the museum director described new zip code tracking and coming art school programming.
  • A resolution approving the updated Collections Care and Management Policy was moved and seconded. It revises acquisition approval thresholds, the role of the Museums and Cultural Affairs Advisory Board, council approval for larger purchases, provenance requirements and loan authority, and adds an interdepartmental loan form.
  • Staff updated council on the roughly $153.4 million of ARPA funds across 49 projects: about 99.4% is spent, about $909,000 is projected unspent, and all funds must be spent by Dec. 31, 2026. Body-worn cameras, a public health program and a small business capital program were the three projects still under 90% spent.
  • Staff plan to use the remaining ARPA funds to reimburse eligible general fund expenses, with fire department fleet routers and rugged laptops a priority, and will return Nov. 9 with a spending recommendation and data on business grant outcomes.
  • The Animal Shelter Advisory Committee presented its annual report: 11 meetings and six recommendations covering recurring spay/neuter funding, regional coordination, modernized facilities and fleet, shorter shelter stays, balanced Title 7 enforcement with a community safety net, and workforce capacity. Two of its 13 seats are vacant.
  • Members noted $122,000 already adopted for low-cost spay/neuter, expected to yield roughly 1,200 additional surgeries, and that additional spay/neuter events are likely but not yet committed.
  • A neighborhood association representative asked the city to enforce zoning, permit, noise and lighting rules at a paddle court business and opposed commercial rezoning nearby.
  • Council went into executive session on a Title 20 code compliance matter, litigation with the Ysleta del Sur Pueblo, a real estate update and legal advice on a $4 million grant application for the Climate Action Implementation Program. It then voted unanimously to authorize the city attorney to file suit to gain compliance with Title 20 of the City Code; no action was taken on the other three items.
  • The recording also carries the regular meeting. Council voted 4-5 against directing staff to analyze a city-initiated rezoning of about 800 Rio Grande neighborhood parcels, with members citing taxpayer cost, outreach timing and sequencing ahead of the comprehensive plan update.
  • The Mass Transit Department Board approved its consent agenda and heard a Sun Metro update on the Sept. 20 service changes: two route realignments restoring clinic and senior center access, schedule adjustments on seven routes, some routes moved between in-house and contractor service, and a next service round planned for early spring 2027.
  • Council approved the Animal Services and Code Enforcement fee schedule 6-2, then reconsidered 7-1 and approved it again 5-3. The small food establishment inspection fee rises from $174 to $344 and the maximum adoption fee from $110 to $198.
  • Council approved 5-3 an amendment to the 2026 Public Art Plan moving $225,000 of savings from the Arts Festival Plaza water wall to four other allocations; members opposed cited a reduced district share and short notice.
  • Council unanimously directed the city manager not to enter or renew agreements with Flock Safety or similar providers for fixed networked license plate reader cameras.
  • Council unanimously approved an MOU supporting El Paso Water's grant application for the Kay Bailey Hutchison Desalination Center expansion; El Paso Water would cover any required match at no cost to the city.

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00:01:15.7] Where's our trash can? Over here.

00:01:39.7] Test, test. Five, four, three, two, one. Test, test.

00:01:43.7] Five, four, three, two, one.

00:04:42.1] Good morning, Ms. Prime.

00:04:44.6] I think we're ready to start the meeting for today.

00:04:48.0] Good morning.

00:04:49.9] This is a work session of the El Paso City Council for Monday, October 12th,

00:04:53.3] 2026. It is 9:01 AM. Mayor

00:04:57.4] Pro Tem Chavez is present and presiding, along with

00:05:01.4] Representative Boya Trejo, Representative Nino, Alternate Mayor Pro Tem Fierro,

00:05:05.9] Representative Limon. Representative Rocha will be joining the meeting

00:05:10.7] a few minutes later.

00:05:13.7] And

00:05:15.3] Representative Acevedo, I don't see him online yet, but he will

00:05:19.3] be joining virtually.

00:05:21.3] Mayor Pro Tem, we have a quorum.

00:05:23.5] Thank you, Ms. Prime.

00:05:25.0] Representative Fierro, can you please lead us in the pledge of allegiance?

00:05:27.4] Thank you, Mayor.

00:05:34.4] Of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it

00:05:38.5] stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with

00:05:42.3] liberty and justice for all.

00:05:49.2] That brings us to item number one on the agenda, and this is discussion and action

00:05:53.0] on a resolution of the City Council of the City of El Paso, Texas, adopting the

00:05:56.9] El Paso Museum of Arts Frontera Forward Bridging Art and Community at

00:06:00.8] the Border Strategic Plan for FY 2027 through FY

00:06:04.8] 2031, providing for implementation and periodic adjustments

00:06:09.1] and providing an effective date. And Representative Acevedo has joined the

00:06:13.0] meeting at 9:02 virtually Good morning, Ben.

00:06:16.6] Good morning. And

00:06:18.5] Mayor Pro Tem, actually items one and two are related, so

00:06:22.7] we probably can take them together.

00:06:24.7] Okay. Item two is discussion and action on a resolution of the city council

00:06:28.9] of the City of El Paso, Texas, approving the collections care and management policy

00:06:32.7] for the City of El Paso Museum collections, providing for purpose and authority,

00:06:36.6] and providing for an effective date of October 12th, 2026.

00:06:42.1] Good morning, and for the record, Ben Fife, managing director.

00:06:46.0] We are very pleased today to be bringing you two items related to

00:06:50.0] our current process towards reaccreditation of the El Paso

00:06:53.9] Museum of Art. The El Paso Museum of Art has been accredited since the

00:06:57.5] 1970s.

00:06:59.5] And as we begin this process and as we briefed you, interestingly

00:07:03.3] enough,

00:07:04.5] one council member asked the question last week, "Do you think we're going to get

00:07:08.5] it this time?" And I said, "Absolutely." We're in a

00:07:12.4] really auspicious place. This process takes

00:07:16.2] place every 10 years. And if you'll allow me, I'd like to give you

00:07:20.1] a couple of facts about where we are since the last time

00:07:24.1] we underwent this process, accolades that let you know,

00:07:28.1] the quality of the work that is happening at the museum, and why we feel we are in

00:07:32.1] very good shape for this process. So first of all, in

00:07:36.3] 2018, the El Paso Museum of Art was awarded the National

00:07:40.3] Medal for Museums. That is a federal award that is traditionally

00:07:44.1] given out at the White House. We also

00:07:47.1] renegotiated and codified what had been a very

00:07:50.8] loose gentleman's agreement of over 25 years

00:07:54.7] with the El Paso Museum of Art Foundation into a

00:07:59.3] formalized council-approved agreement

00:08:03.3] that focuses on clarifying roles, funding

00:08:06.4] expectations, et cetera, to ensure more seamless coordination,

00:08:10.5] stronger governance, and planning.

00:08:13.3] We've completed over $4.25 million

00:08:17.0] in improvements to the facility. Many of those dollars went

00:08:20.8] to infrastructure that is critical to the care of the

00:08:24.6] overall collection, and we want to acknowledge the

00:08:28.3] work of the Capital Improvements Department, as well as

00:08:32.2] Streets and Maintenance, in helping us to accomplish that.

00:08:35.8] Our collection in the last 10 years has grown by almost 10%,

00:08:39.7] with over 634 new works added, and

00:08:43.8] all but 47 of those have actually been donated,

00:08:47.8] showing how staff has carefully cultivated relationships with

00:08:51.7] donors and art collectors. That represents an approximate value

00:08:55.7] of

00:08:56.9] about $2 million worth of work entering the collection, and that

00:09:00.9] does not include the $6 million

00:09:03.9] donation of Star Ceiling.

00:09:06.6] We conserved four old masters at NYU's prestigious

00:09:10.1] conservation lab for free, and that process not

00:09:13.9] only stabilized very fragile works from the Italian Renaissance to

00:09:17.9] ensure that generations of El Pasoans will be able to enjoy them for years to

00:09:21.7] come, it also yielded new insights.

00:09:24.7] So for example,

00:09:26.5] the NYU conservation lab, while doing work, was able to

00:09:30.3] determine that one of our paintings, which originally was part of an

00:09:33.7] altarpiece in

00:09:36.3] Italy in the 1500s, actually has a companion piece

00:09:40.2] from that same altar at the Yale Art Gallery right now.

00:09:44.9] We secured 53 grants over that time, allowing us to

00:09:48.9] amplify our programming without impacting El Paso

00:09:52.1] taxpayers. In the last two years alone, we have

00:09:56.0] held 236 programs for youth and families.

00:10:00.4] We've forged stronger community partnerships with ISDs,

00:10:04.7] UTEP, EPCC, and other partnering organizations.

00:10:08.6] We've established long-term funding relationship with national funders like the

00:10:12.5] Mellon Foundation, Art Bridges America, which is actually the

00:10:16.0] foundation of Alice Walton, the Walmart heir, and the Thoma Foundation.

00:10:20.9] We've undertaken significant work to actually increase accessibility for

00:10:24.8] our programs and our facility at the Museum of Art, particularly for

00:10:28.8] families that have members with developmental or sensory

00:10:32.8] issues. This includes everything from low sensory rooms to

00:10:37.0] low sensory hours at our programs, and even

00:10:40.5] ceramic potting wheels that are designed to be used by wheelchair users.

00:10:45.3] The United States Postal Service debuted the first ever Día de Muertos

00:10:49.0] stamp in the United States at the El Paso Museum of Art in

00:10:52.4] recognition of the quality of the Día de Muertos program

00:10:56.3] that initiated first from the Museum of Art and now is department-wide.

00:11:01.7] The 2024 Border Biennial was featured on the front page of the New York

00:11:05.5] Times Museum section for the last iteration.

00:11:09.5] And lastly, this last fiscal year saw a

00:11:13.0] 26% increase in attendance over the previous year.

00:11:17.0] And I should mention during that year that we increased attendance, we were closed

00:11:20.3] for five months because of infrastructure improvements.

00:11:24.9] All of that happened during a very turbulent period,

00:11:29.1] with the pandemic shutdowns, furloughs.

00:11:33.0] So I just want to acknowledge the hard work of staff, and

00:11:36.6] acknowledge and thank the continued support of the council,

00:11:40.8] and also city leadership like the city manager.

00:11:43.7] With that, I will turn this over to Eddie Hayes, our director of the Museum of

00:11:47.5] Art. I'm going to mention this is his first time presenting at the council, so

00:11:51.3] please be gentle.

00:11:55.8] Thank you, sir.

00:11:57.2] For the record, Edward Hayes, Jr., director of the El Paso Museum of Art, the very

00:12:00.4] proud director of EPMA. I'd like to add, in addition to what's been

00:12:04.3] described here, is that

00:12:06.2] we have been nominated, we have been recognized as the top five

00:12:10.6] museum in the state by editors at Glass Tire

00:12:14.0] just this summer, and we are nestled within the top four

00:12:18.3] downtown arts district in the nation.

00:12:20.7] And that's from a national poll held by USA Today.

00:12:24.0] So, really grateful to have this opportunity to present to you today

00:12:28.0] a five-year plan for the museum, our Frontera Forward strategic

00:12:32.0] plan.

00:12:34.3] And actually, IT, if you can bring up the presentation for item one.

00:12:37.7] I believe this is item two.

00:12:48.4] Thank you very much. So, we're looking at a plan that will cover

00:12:51.9] FY 2027 through FY 2031.

00:12:57.7] It's titled Frontera Forward, after a recent initiative of the museum where we're

00:13:01.4] doubling down on community,

00:13:03.7] using art to better understand our community, our region.

00:13:08.0] This

00:13:09.3] strategic plan is a core document that we need to have ready for

00:13:12.7] reaccreditation in 2027.

00:13:15.3] Again, this will cover the next five years.

00:13:20.6] And this plan also is in alignment with the City of El Paso strategic plan,

00:13:25.6] delivering on quality of life and good governance.

00:13:31.0] The process included listening to staff, the EPMA Foundation,

00:13:35.3] inviting artists, community partners, inviting our caterers, our DJ to

00:13:39.3] come and

00:13:40.8] connect with us. We

00:13:42.7] gathered such incredible feedback, over 225 feedback points

00:13:46.7] overall, that help us arrive at some desired outcomes.

00:13:50.2] And this was thanks to

00:13:52.6] a consultant firm here, Resilient Heritage, who worked with our

00:13:56.4] two

00:13:57.4] city strategic planners from the city strategy office

00:14:01.5] to be able to arrive at our desired outcome.

00:14:04.8] So it was a partnership here with city staff

00:14:09.1] and with a consultant and the museum team.

00:14:15.2] Okay, so there are four goals, and here's the first one.

00:14:17.9] We are looking to become an institution that embodies El Paso, and what does that

00:14:21.8] mean? I hear around town, "Let's be El Paso first." And so this

00:14:25.5] touches that point directly. In creating a place that reflects the

00:14:29.4] beauty and shared love for our city, establishing the museum as a cultural

00:14:33.3] hub of the region,

00:14:35.2] promoting the museum as an anchor of the downtown arts district,

00:14:39.1] and in doing so, aligning our

00:14:41.5] operational hours, promotional activities with other organizations on the block,

00:14:45.2] other businesses

00:14:46.8] in the downtown arts district as well.

00:14:50.5] We're also looking to expand frontiers through art. What does this mean?

00:14:54.0] We're looking to expand the sight lines of the museum, become a regional

00:14:57.9] art museum leader in the Southwest, not just in the region, but more broadly in the

00:15:01.5] Southwest United States. So folks looking to Phoenix for great art,

00:15:05.4] looking to Denver, making sure we're also looking at El Paso as a key

00:15:09.2] leader in the region. We're looking to offer a balanced exhibitions program that we

00:15:13.5] currently have, making sure we continue that going forward, showing our local

00:15:17.1] talent, our emerging artists, as well as well-established and incredible

00:15:21.1] traveling exhibitions. We just hosted Frida Kahlo: Sus Fotos, an

00:15:24.9] exhibition that drew over 30,000 visitors in just three and a half months.

00:15:29.2] We saw that over 30% of those visits were from outside of the region.

00:15:34.5] We're looking to also preserve our cultural heritage, making sure that with the

00:15:37.8] works of art in our collection, which total over 7,000

00:15:42.7] and span from the 13th century to the present, making sure that we are preserving

00:15:46.3] not just El Paso's local cultural heritage, but also world

00:15:50.1] heritage too.

00:15:54.5] We want to make sure that the museum is a destination for all to enjoy, providing a

00:15:58.5] visitor-first experience, really centering our activity, our focus on that

00:16:02.3] visitor, to make sure they come back, make sure they enjoy, make sure they feel

00:16:05.8] welcome. We are already a free museum, so more people need to know about

00:16:09.6] that. And there's always ways for us to improve, and we have

00:16:13.6] a plan to execute that. We want to make sure we embolden

00:16:17.5] fundraising capacity so that we are not just coming to the table at City Hall here

00:16:21.6] for city support.

00:16:23.9] As Ben mentioned, we've received some transformative grants over the past few

00:16:27.1] years, and we look to continue doing that to make sure that we provide

00:16:31.4] awesome traveling exhibitions. We're able to acquire some amazing art, and we're

00:16:35.2] making sure that that visitor experience is very rich, and especially

00:16:39.0] with our art school. So we're making investments, and we plan to make over the next

00:16:42.6] five years, key investments in the art school,

00:16:45.7] to enhance arts education. We're already serving 500 kids

00:16:49.7] and adults over

00:16:51.7] three classrooms, so we're looking to transform that, making sure we

00:16:55.6] serve more individuals, especially as we see a need for arts education in

00:16:59.6] the public schools.

00:17:02.8] And we want to do this together. So juntos adelante.

00:17:05.9] Vamos juntos. We're walking together. We're going to do this.

00:17:08.8] We're going to achieve this strategic plan with community, making sure that we

00:17:12.8] inspire citywide participation.

00:17:14.9] During that closure we had for our HVAC renovation,

00:17:18.1] our team was incredible. They organized over 40 programs across the city,

00:17:22.3] making sure that we got the museum out to different parts of town,

00:17:26.4] and we will continue doing that, and we've learned a lot from that experience, and

00:17:29.5] that is baked into this plan here.

00:17:32.9] We also want to make sure that we invest in the staff that we have.

00:17:35.3] We're not looking to expand the staff.

00:17:36.7] We're looking to develop them, making sure that we get them out to big conferences.

00:17:40.9] We've got a team going out in May to the American Alliance of Museums conference,

00:17:44.5] which is, by the way, the accrediting body that will be looking at our 2027

00:17:48.6] application for reaccreditation.

00:17:50.6] That, by the way,

00:17:52.2] if approved, is good for the next 10 years.

00:17:55.9] And we're looking to also cultivate art collectors.

00:17:57.9] There's a major opportunity in El Paso right now.

00:17:59.7] I've met some awesome individuals who love El Paso artists, who

00:18:03.6] are also collecting nationally.

00:18:08.6] I see an opportunity for us to cultivate that group, making sure that we share

00:18:12.0] knowledge about caring for art with individuals who want to grow their

00:18:15.5] collections. That will have an incredible return in the

00:18:19.4] future, as it has in other cities with collectors who are donating

00:18:23.3] works of art back to that museum that introduced them

00:18:27.2] to this amazing activity, which is not just collecting art, but also

00:18:30.7] developing and helping inspire artists' careers.

00:18:35.9] So that is the

00:18:37.7] last goal here of the strategic plan.

00:18:42.1] Thank you, Edgar. Thank you so much for the presentation. Thank you, Ben.

00:18:45.8] We do have a few questions. Representative Limón.

00:18:51.9] Good morning. Thank you. Thank you, Eddie. It wasn't so bad after all, huh?

00:18:56.5] I know we met last week, and you were quite nervous about this.

00:19:00.2] I really want to thank you for all the work that you're doing.

00:19:03.4] I especially like all the work that's been done around the museum.

00:19:07.7] I think it's coming to a point where it's all going to be finished up, and that is

00:19:11.5] such an attractive area because the museum really goes

00:19:15.2] out into the open space. It isn't just locked into that

00:19:19.2] building. And so thank you for the presentation. Really appreciate it.

00:19:23.0] Thank you for your comments.

00:19:23.3] You're doing a good job, Eddie.

00:19:24.7] I appreciate it.

00:19:27.4] Representative Nino.

00:19:28.8] Thank you, Eddie and Ben, for the great presentation as well.

00:19:32.3] I know that during my briefing, I asked in regards of how many Far East or District

00:19:36.0] 5 residents visit the museum, and I'm grateful for the data that you all

00:19:39.7] provided. Would you be able to share a little bit more about the 30% of visitors

00:19:43.4] that came outside of El Paso, where they came to visit from?

00:19:47.1] That's a great question. We saw zip codes coming from all over Mexico.

00:19:51.8] We saw visits outside of the state, multiple states.

00:19:56.5] We know there were international travelers, especially as we had the opening of

00:20:01.5] BTS, a huge BTS concert.

00:20:04.3] And so what we're seeing is visitation at the museum that

00:20:08.3] is

00:20:09.8] related to all the other exciting things happening in the downtown area, folks

00:20:13.6] coming to see concerts, folks coming to

00:20:16.9] the festivals. We haven't seen yet with our new zip code

00:20:20.7] capturing system, we have a QR code at the front entrance, and we're asking

00:20:23.9] visitors to scan,

00:20:25.8] and let us know how many folks are in their party, what zip code they're coming

00:20:28.8] from. We just started collecting this data in February-

00:20:33.3] Okay

00:20:33.4] ... with the opening of Frida Kahlo.

00:20:34.9] So, we will see what this data looks like throughout festival season, and I'm

00:20:38.6] really excited to see those numbers and share those with you once

00:20:42.9] we see a full breakdown of what that looks like.

00:20:45.2] No, that's good. Even whenever there's, like you mentioned, BTS concert, right?

00:20:48.3] If there's any future concerts that come into the region, just to get that data

00:20:51.8] will be good, so that we could highlight our investments more when it comes to the

00:20:55.5] museums and the art support. But thank you for the great presentation.

00:20:59.4] Thank you.

00:20:59.9] Thank you, sir. We will capture that, absolutely.

00:21:01.2] Thank you.

00:21:03.0] Representative Canales.

00:21:06.7] Thank you.

00:21:07.9] Yeah, good job, Eddie. Thanks. It seems like it was a really robust public

00:21:11.7] process that went into this as well, so I appreciate seeing that.

00:21:16.0] I think our strategic planning should always be driven by community input.

00:21:19.8] And I

00:21:20.9] think that's especially the case for something like

00:21:23.7] a museum where

00:21:26.6] it really is the people's museum, and the arts community in El

00:21:30.4] Paso is so invested in the success of

00:21:32.9] the Museum of Art. And so,

00:21:35.5] kudos to you all for going through the process in that way.

00:21:38.3] I think it makes a lot of sense.

00:21:42.2] I do have just a technical question, which is that this was posted as a

00:21:47.3] support for a resolution. There's not a resolution in the backup, and I

00:21:51.3] understand you need a resolution as part of your

00:21:55.2] accreditation process.

00:21:58.3] Is

00:22:00.2] the expectation that the council approves a resolution?

00:22:03.9] There should be a

00:22:04.2] resolution.

00:22:08.2] It's in the backup.

00:22:08.2] Is there? Let me see.

00:22:11.4] We're checking on that sir.

00:22:12.2] Oh, there is. I apologize. I didn't scroll far enough.

00:22:16.7] God.

00:22:19.6] Okay.

00:22:19.7] Keeping you honest, Ben.

00:22:21.5] It might be another 10 years from now, Chris.

00:22:25.4] Mayor Pro Tem, I understand. I don't think there's been a motion yet.

00:22:29.8] No.

00:22:30.2] Move to approve the resolution.

00:22:32.2] Second.

00:22:33.8] Second.

00:22:36.2] And that's all. Thank you.

00:22:38.7] Sorry for the scare.

00:22:42.5] All right. And if IT-

00:22:43.2] Rep-

00:22:43.3] ... can bring up... Oh.

00:22:45.8] Representative Trejo.

00:22:46.8] Sorry.

00:22:47.9] Thank you.

00:22:48.7] Thank you.

00:22:50.8] Thank you for the presentation, Eddie. Good job.

00:22:52.8] Thank you very much.

00:22:53.2] A couple of questions. On page seven of the

00:22:56.9] PowerPoint,

00:22:58.7] and you mention here expand art school to enhance arts education.

00:23:02.1] What are some of those

00:23:04.1] things that will be taking place for that?

00:23:06.6] Well, I'm happy to share that we are already expanding

00:23:09.5] the number of classes we're going to offer.

00:23:11.9] We have a larger number of teaching artists this year.

00:23:16.1] So in the short term, we're going to see more

00:23:19.6] classes, making sure we take advantage of all the different breaks that students in

00:23:23.3] El Paso have, all the intersessions, the fall breaks.

00:23:26.7] So we're already working to expand on that front.

00:23:30.0] We're also looking at

00:23:32.8] working with the El Paso Museum of Art Foundation to raise funds for

00:23:36.8] some transformations to the classrooms themselves,

00:23:41.4] to be able to

00:23:43.1] have a larger ceramic studio, which is one of our most popular offerings

00:23:47.4] at the museum. There's a waiting list every time.

00:23:50.5] These classes are fully booked. Sometimes we don't even post the classes online

00:23:53.6] because they fill up before we can even share that they're even open.

00:23:57.8] So, we're looking to raise funds for

00:24:01.1] changing the format of some of those classrooms.

00:24:04.1] And then, of course, we have everything in place, all the mechanisms to be able to

00:24:07.8] continue securing more teaching artists, which are essential to run the program.

00:24:12.4] And also, we're allocating additional security as

00:24:16.2] well to be able to provide classes at different hours.

00:24:19.4] We're seeing requests for more after-hours

00:24:22.6] offerings. At the moment, all of our offerings are in the daytime.

00:24:26.5] So we

00:24:28.0] are phasing this activity to make sure that we can provide an immediate need

00:24:32.7] to the excitement for art school. But we're also looking at a longer-term

00:24:36.5] plan, working with the foundation to secure some

00:24:39.4] significant funds for some physical, I don't want to say

00:24:43.2] capital, but for some physical transformations in that space.

00:24:46.4] And we're working with our

00:24:48.0] city offices, of course, at Capital Improvement.

00:24:50.7] Our city architect as well is aware of what we're looking to do there.

00:24:54.5] as we plan this out.

00:24:55.9] Very good. As far as the fundraising capacity, what does that

00:24:59.8] look like as far as strengthening that?

00:25:02.5] Well, I'll share right now that there's a $500,000 naming opportunity for the art

00:25:06.0] school. So that is available right now, and at the

00:25:09.7] moment, we have El Paso Giving Day happening right now.

00:25:12.6] So if you're tuning in, please go support the El Paso Museum of Art.

00:25:16.1] You can give towards arts education there, and we're building out a

00:25:19.7] formal

00:25:21.6] development plan for that art school

00:25:25.4] development project. It is significant.

00:25:30.9] I don't want to list any specific numbers because we do not have them yet, but it

00:25:34.3] could be

00:25:36.7] over one or two million dollars of a transformation there at the art school.

00:25:40.7] Yeah.

00:25:41.6] If I may, ma'am.

00:25:43.3] So that actual fundraising capacity as well, one thing I will say is that the

00:25:46.6] consultant who helped with the strategic plan is also doing

00:25:50.4] a fundraising strategy plan for our art

00:25:54.4] museum foundation to be able to help them understand how they can

00:25:58.0] better work with our local funders and how

00:26:01.9] they can be a little more streamlined in their processes.

00:26:05.4] So that's something we're looking at as well.

00:26:07.9] I think we're also thinking about the fact that the last couple of years we've had,

00:26:11.8] as I mentioned, a couple of national funders that have come to the

00:26:15.6] table and are actually repeating their giving

00:26:19.5] over and over again. We feel that that's a really great sign, and we want to be

00:26:23.2] able to also look at other funders that we might not have tapped into

00:26:27.1] nationally as we think about the fact that El Paso has a very shallow

00:26:30.8] philanthropic pool.

00:26:32.8] We don't want to just keep going to the same people here over and over again.

00:26:36.2] We also want to bring new money into the community.

00:26:38.8] That's great. And thank you for bringing those additional programs that include

00:26:42.6] sensory. That's very important to everyone.

00:26:46.0] Thank you again for the presentation.

00:26:49.2] Thank you for your questions.

00:26:51.7] Thank you, Eddie, once again. I know that Ben mentioned Italian Renaissance, and

00:26:55.5] you mentioned Frida Kahlo, but I did want to give you the opportunity to

00:26:59.5] talk about other artists that also have had exhibits there,

00:27:03.1] including one that I had the privilege of attending back in May, Minds of All

00:27:06.4] Kinds. Could you talk a little bit about how you bring local artists

00:27:10.1] also into the museum?

00:27:11.7] Yes. Thank you so much for participating and for seeing the work.

00:27:14.3] I appreciate that.

00:27:16.1] Yes, we have an opportunity to show the work of

00:27:20.0] our local artists, of local community organizations.

00:27:25.8] There's an opportunity, even though we have the next three years planned out for

00:27:29.3] the museum in terms of our exhibitions, we have opportunities to

00:27:33.1] carve out moments where we

00:27:35.8] have our artist incubator program.

00:27:37.3] Artists from that city-funded program have an exhibition in our Museum

00:27:41.1] Connect Lab. We currently have the work of Blast.

00:27:43.7] He's an incredible street artist, and you have to see his paintings at the museum.

00:27:46.7] They're on view right now through January.

00:27:48.9] We have mural opportunities. We had a beautiful mural by

00:27:52.7] Mariana Olague on view with us, one of the first Frontera Ford mural

00:27:56.4] commissions, where she painted memories of her Segundo Barrio neighborhood growing

00:28:00.3] up.

00:28:01.5] We had representations of the Ruben Salazar apartments there in this beautiful

00:28:04.5] mural. We now have another lobby installation by Julia Barelo.

00:28:07.8] She's an artist based in Las Cruces.

00:28:11.4] Again, another region that we cover, that we consider home here.

00:28:15.2] And

00:28:18.0] the team does an incredible job of integrating artists into our workshops.

00:28:22.9] We have professional artists. We have Kristen Apodaca, who

00:28:26.8] created a mural for Chalk the Block last year.

00:28:29.0] You can see that mural on the side of the building that faces La Nube.

00:28:32.6] And in fact,

00:28:33.8] the best view of that mural is from La Nube.

00:28:35.6] So go to La Nube and look across the street and see that incredible painting.

00:28:39.7] So it's through mural commissions, through small exhibitions, also larger group

00:28:43.6] shows, and larger investments in our artists that we're able to celebrate our

00:28:47.4] local talent. So please, thank you so much for noticing that, and we

00:28:51.4] really need everyone's support to come out, see their shows,

00:28:55.5] to support them, "para apoyarlos," making sure that they continue to thrive in

00:28:59.7] our very rich cultural region, which is going through an

00:29:03.4] incredible renaissance right now in downtown El Paso.

00:29:06.8] Thank you. I completely agree.

00:29:09.6] I don't think we have any other questions.

00:29:12.5] We have a motion and a second, Ms. Praim?

00:29:14.5] Yes. This is for item number one, correct?

00:29:18.7] Okay. The motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by Representative

00:29:22.4] Boya-Trejo, and this is to approve the resolution on item one.

00:29:26.3] On that motion, call for the vote.

00:29:31.1] Representative Acevedo?

00:29:33.5] Aye.

00:29:34.0] Thank you. End the voting session.

00:29:36.9] And that motion passes unanimously.

00:29:39.4] And for the record, Representatives Canales and Rocha joined the meeting at

00:29:43.2] 9:06 and 9:07 respectively, and Mayor Johnson requested to be

00:29:47.0] excused from today's meeting.

00:29:50.7] All right. If IT can bring up the presentation for item two, please.

00:29:58.1] Thank you. And this presentation is a little more technical, so please bear with

00:30:00.8] me. We are presenting here adjustments, updates to the

00:30:04.4] collections care and management policy,

00:30:07.0] another key document, core document that needs to be filed with the

00:30:10.3] American Alliance of Museums, the accrediting

00:30:13.8] body of this museum. By the way, the other core

00:30:17.8] documents are the strategic plan that, thank you, was just approved, and prior to

00:30:21.6] that, the code of ethics, which council approved as well in the summer.

00:30:26.6] This collections care and management policy is critical.

00:30:30.6] This aligns all of our internal work here with

00:30:34.7] the accrediting body's recommendations.

00:30:37.1] The last policy came before city council in 2017 and was

00:30:40.6] approved. So these updates here reflect changes to

00:30:45.1] larger museum policy across the world, in addition to

00:30:49.2] creating some mechanisms in place here that align our practices

00:30:52.7] with our city purchasing requirements.

00:30:55.6] So I'll go through those here.

00:30:58.2] The first is

00:31:01.0] on the financial side, making sure that any purchase over $3,500

00:31:05.0] is approved by our deputy city manager for quality of life or a similar

00:31:09.1] office

00:31:10.4] overseeing MCAD.

00:31:12.3] Second here is that

00:31:15.3] any acquisition is

00:31:17.9] vetted by the Museums and Cultural Affairs Advisory Board, our

00:31:22.0] MCAAB board.

00:31:23.8] And thirdly here, that any purchases over $50,000 come to city

00:31:27.5] council. So come before your eyes before we make

00:31:31.1] that final purchase there.

00:31:34.3] And these are items that just were not articulated in the prior plan and the prior

00:31:37.4] policy.

00:31:41.4] We have updated language here to our scope of collections.

00:31:44.0] As I mentioned, we have over 7,000 works from the 13th century to the present.

00:31:49.0] We cover so much of the world here, at least in this hemisphere,

00:31:52.9] Latin America,

00:31:54.7] art from Mexico.

00:31:57.4] What's key here is our retablo collection.

00:31:59.8] We have the second largest collection of retablos in the nation,

00:32:03.8] and that's something we're going to celebrate, and we're adding here to this

00:32:06.4] language.

00:32:07.9] Retablos, these are devotional paintings from northern Mexico.

00:32:12.2] They're found in the home, and we have an incredible collection of them, as

00:32:16.2] well as our ex votos

00:32:18.3] as well. So, we have early West Texas art, contemporary art, works

00:32:22.3] on paper. Again, this language is adjusted, modified to

00:32:26.1] help better characterize the collection as it stands today,

00:32:30.1] since 2016.

00:32:33.6] Okay. This is much more technical here.

00:32:36.0] We have updates to the policy that acknowledge public laws

00:32:40.0] governing art,

00:32:42.1] including the Native American Graves Protection and Holocaust Appropriated

00:32:46.3] Art Recovery Act.

00:32:48.3] This here, as you see, there's one adjustment to public law number

00:32:52.6] 119-82 made in 2026. That's fairly

00:32:56.1] recent. And so the previous policy did

00:33:00.0] not, of course, include that update there.

00:33:03.6] We're making sure that any art that is donated, that is purchased by

00:33:07.6] the museum,

00:33:08.9] is coming in clean, and that we're not acquiring works that are fake, that

00:33:13.0] are inauthentic. The works have to be authentic, free of any liens or

00:33:16.5] encumbrances.

00:33:18.3] They need to be exported legally from their country of origin, and they need to be

00:33:21.3] imported

00:33:23.3] into the United States legally as well.

00:33:26.9] And so we seek this provenance documentation, these

00:33:30.8] receipts, essentially, for works of art, before we consider

00:33:34.5] making these acquisitions.

00:33:38.0] Okay. There's also an update here to our outgoing loan

00:33:41.9] authority here. This allows our managing director of quality of life to

00:33:46.6] sign off on loans that are made. We need three months in

00:33:50.2] advance, so we're making sure that time is articulated, so that we have an

00:33:54.1] opportunity to check the object, make sure it's safe to travel, safe to leave

00:33:58.0] the museum.

00:34:00.1] Again, so this is an update to the loan request

00:34:03.5] authority.

00:34:08.1] Okay. And this is what I'm most excited about.

00:34:11.4] This is a new form here that's going to allow us to borrow more freely in

00:34:15.2] between the collections that the

00:34:18.4] city already has. We borrow every now and then from the El Paso Museum of History.

00:34:22.9] We'll be able to borrow more fluidly from the El Paso Museum of

00:34:26.3] History and Archaeology, and maybe even the MAC.

00:34:29.6] They have incredible art in their lobbies now, and this new form allows us.

00:34:33.6] It's an interdepartmental loan form.

00:34:36.2] And as it was described to me by our managing director,

00:34:40.0] he would often sign the loan request

00:34:44.0] and sign off as the receiving body as well,

00:34:47.7] so both the borrower

00:34:50.5] and

00:34:52.6] the lender. And so that's a very circular

00:34:56.2] motion right there. This interdepartmental loan form really cleans

00:35:00.1] that up and allows us to borrow more fluidly.

00:35:02.2] Our museums take fantastic care of our collections.

00:35:05.1] I trust what's going to archaeology, what's going to history, will be cared for in

00:35:09.2] a professional manner.

00:35:14.0] And thank you. That is all for the collections care updates.

00:35:19.6] Thank you. Representative Canales.

00:35:24.8] Thank you.

00:35:26.9] Good job again, Eddie. I move to approve. Thank you.

00:35:29.1] Second.

00:35:32.4] We have a motion and a second. I don't think we have any other discussion,

00:35:36.5] but I do want to thank you both for the presentation and for the wonderful work

00:35:39.7] you're doing in promoting the arts in our city.

00:35:43.7] Ms. Prime? Yes, the motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by

00:35:47.2] Representative Limón, and this is to approve the resolution on item two.

00:35:50.9] On that motion, call for the vote.

00:35:56.9] Representative Acevedo?

00:35:59.4] Aye.

00:36:00.2] Thank you. End the voting session.

00:36:02.6] And that motion passes unanimously.

00:36:04.9] Thank you.

00:36:05.5] Good job.

00:36:06.3] Thank you all for your support. Thank you.

00:36:08.2] That brings us to item number three, and this is presentation, discussion, and

00:36:11.3] action on the American Rescue Plan Act, ARPA, Coronavirus State and

00:36:15.2] Local Fiscal Recovery Fund.

00:36:24.5] Good morning.

00:36:25.7] Good morning.

00:36:26.4] Welcome.

00:36:27.9] Thank you.

00:36:31.2] Good morning.

00:36:33.6] I'm Elder Ruiz Hefner with the Office of the Comptroller Grants Administration

00:36:37.5] Division.

00:36:39.5] This presentation will have two parts.

00:36:42.9] Sasha Andonoski, the director of

00:36:46.5] the Office of Management and Budget, will continue the second part.

00:36:56.1] So I want to start off by letting you know there is no council

00:36:59.6] action that we are requesting at this time.

00:37:03.2] Today, we are providing a summary update of the ARPA

00:37:06.8] Coronavirus state and local fiscal recovery funds.

00:37:10.8] We will be discussing the monitoring of the remaining balances,

00:37:15.3] provide a brief summary of funds and projects, the completion

00:37:19.1] of eligible spending, and next steps.

00:37:25.0] As you may recall, the city received a little more than

00:37:28.5] $154 million

00:37:30.9] from the ARPA CSLFRFs to support the

00:37:34.4] continuation of the pandemic response, continue assisting

00:37:38.4] families, continue the essential public services,

00:37:43.0] and invest that promote long-term growth in our

00:37:46.8] community.

00:37:48.8] The one-time federal funding came with some restrictions, as they all do.

00:37:53.4] One of them being that the funds must be spent on or before December

00:37:57.4] 31st of 2026.

00:38:03.1] As part of our final spending year, we have been monitoring the

00:38:06.8] balance, reviewing eligibility of expenditures,

00:38:10.6] and preparing for the final federal closeout of this grant.

00:38:17.8] The CFO, OTC, and OMB hold weekly spending

00:38:21.7] update meetings to review balances, project

00:38:25.0] completion, and expected invoicing and payments.

00:38:28.9] We follow up with the departments on any delays with vendors,

00:38:32.8] contractors,

00:38:35.1] partners, and sub-recipients. We ensure that leadership

00:38:39.0] is aware of any potential issues that may come up.

00:38:44.8] As part of the grant requirements, we have quarterly project and

00:38:48.2] expenditure reports, an annual recovery plan report,

00:38:52.8] and the final closeout report.

00:38:55.3] And these reports are visible there at the

00:38:59.0] link.

00:39:02.1] And with that, I'll turn it over to Sasha to continue.

00:39:10.9] Good morning, Mayor and Council. Sasha Donoski, Office of Management and Budget.

00:39:15.1] So as Elda mentioned, we received

00:39:17.2] $153.4 million.

00:39:21.0] So we

00:39:22.4] allocated this huge money in three big main buckets.

00:39:26.4] So first bucket or 74% was allocated

00:39:30.2] to public health and safety, which is

00:39:32.7] $114 million.

00:39:36.1] Then we allocated 17% to community response and recovery,

00:39:39.9] $26.4 million, and then 9% or $14 million

00:39:43.8] to economic response and recovery.

00:39:49.8] So as a percentage, so we allocated total

00:39:53.8] of 49 projects across all the departments.

00:39:57.2] Up to date,

00:39:58.6] 46 of the projects were almost 100%

00:40:02.9] or almost

00:40:04.3] fully expended. We still have three projects or

00:40:08.3] less than 90% that will need to be expended in the

00:40:12.1] next couple of months.

00:40:17.9] In terms of the percentage from the total amount, as you can see,

00:40:21.5] $99.4 million or

00:40:24.1] $153.4 million has been already

00:40:27.5] expended,

00:40:29.2] which means that in little bit over five years, we expended

00:40:33.3] 99.4% of the whole amount of the money.

00:40:36.7] As you know,

00:40:38.1] we focused on just putting out one-time

00:40:42.2] projects. So we didn't focus on the projects that

00:40:46.3] will be recurring and will

00:40:49.1] have continued obligations for the city.

00:40:52.0] So

00:40:52.3] $909,000 or

00:40:56.5] 0.6%,

00:40:58.8] at this point, we are projecting to be unspent, but we have a good plan for

00:41:02.6] that.

00:41:04.9] So as we go by the main bucket, from $114 million,

00:41:09.4] as you can see from that public health and safety, only

00:41:12.7] 0.1% we are projecting to be

00:41:16.2] unspent

00:41:17.7] or

00:41:18.5] $173,000.

00:41:25.1] From the community response and recovery,

00:41:29.1] we already expend whole amount.

00:41:34.0] And from economic response and recovery from $14 million,

00:41:37.5] we are projecting 5% not to be spent at

00:41:41.3] this point.

00:41:45.3] So for the next steps, so during this month,

00:41:49.2] we are going to continue

00:41:53.1] monitoring the balances, and then we are going to see the

00:41:58.6] payment schedules that are upcoming, and then we will come in front

00:42:02.6] of you with additional recommendations.

00:42:05.8] In November, we are planning to have another presentation.

00:42:09.7] We are targeting November 9th for the next presentation

00:42:13.7] where we will come with a recommendation how to spend

00:42:17.7] that $909,000.

00:42:20.5] Hopefully, it will be less than $909,000 at that point.

00:42:24.6] In December, we will

00:42:26.7] complete all eligible work and payments, and we will confirm

00:42:30.4] any amounts that we will require return.

00:42:33.4] As I mentioned, we are not going to return any amounts.

00:42:36.9] And then

00:42:38.6] finally, we will reconcile the next fiscal year from January to

00:42:42.3] April. We are going to reconcile all the final reports, and then we

00:42:46.4] will submit the closeout report to the federal government.

00:42:52.6] So as a recommendation, when we come back on November 9th,

00:42:57.3] we are couple of

00:42:59.9] pressing

00:43:01.9] needs.

00:43:03.1] One of the needs is

00:43:05.1] routers or Accredo points for, and tough books for the fire departments.

00:43:09.6] These are routers that connect

00:43:12.9] ... internet connection that give internet connection to the fire

00:43:16.7] department fleet.

00:43:18.9] As of this point, 50% of these fleet routers are at the end

00:43:22.8] of its useful life. So we are

00:43:26.6] going to create room in the general

00:43:30.3] fund

00:43:31.6] by

00:43:32.7] increasing our eligible expenditures for the ARPA fund.

00:43:37.6] And with that,

00:43:40.5] we are open to any questions that you guys have.

00:43:43.4] Thank you, Sasha, for the presentation. We do have some questions.

00:43:46.1] Representative Trejo.

00:43:49.2] Thank you.

00:43:51.5] Thank you, Sasha. On

00:43:54.5] slide eight, you mentioned there's three projects left.

00:43:57.3] What are those three projects?

00:44:03.7] So these three projects are, as I mentioned, it will be

00:44:07.7] on slide 10.

00:44:09.4] So we have some leftover from body-worn cameras.

00:44:14.9] We already paid the invoice to the vendor,

00:44:18.8] and so we have a payroll that is coming out

00:44:22.7] from that project. We are estimating around the

00:44:26.6] middle of November to cut off the payroll, and then we are estimating that we will

00:44:30.3] have some savings there, $140,000.

00:44:33.8] What's the project?

00:44:35.7] So the project is the

00:44:38.4] actual body-worn camera. So the actual-

00:44:40.8] The camera

00:44:41.1] ... payment for that. Yes.

00:44:42.1] Okay.

00:44:42.3] But we have some payroll that is coming also from that

00:44:46.2] allocation.

00:44:47.2] So then-

00:44:47.4] Representative Trejo, you might recall that we moved the whole body-worn camera

00:44:50.7] program, along with the staffing, over to general fund.

00:44:53.8] And so this is the remainder of the last couple of charges that would go to

00:44:58.2] this grant, and the rest of it would be ongoing within a general fund for

00:45:02.0] next year moving forward.

00:45:03.5] So you have the worn camera, but what are the three projects?

00:45:06.4] They're all three projects for the worn camera?

00:45:08.5] So there's actually-

00:45:10.7] One of the projects is that body-worn cameras

00:45:13.2] ... body-worn cameras, a public health program, and I think the third one is the

00:45:17.2] economic development program.

00:45:20.1] Yes. So that's the-

00:45:20.9] And there's two programs within that economic development program.

00:45:23.8] One is the BOSS and the other was-

00:45:28.6] The access to capital for small businesses

00:45:30.5] ... the access to capital for small businesses.

00:45:30.9] Yes.

00:45:32.1] And so for the BOSS funding, we were able to utilize another

00:45:36.4] series of funding to be able to get that done.

00:45:38.7] And for the BOSS funding, I believe we're utilizing

00:45:42.5] another source of funding. Did we already bring that to council?

00:45:46.2] Airport.

00:45:46.7] Airport. It's coming.

00:45:50.1] Okay.

00:45:54.8] And you're coming back on the 9th with the recommendations?

00:45:58.0] Yes. We don't want to come with recommendations right now because we want

00:46:03.3] to monitor the program and see where we

00:46:07.0] stand

00:46:08.3] around the end of October. And

00:46:11.3] at that point, we are going to come in front of you with recommendation.

00:46:15.4] Okay. All right. Thank you.

00:46:18.8] Representative Limón.

00:46:21.2] Thank you. Sasha, were any buildings purchased with any

00:46:25.2] of this money?

00:46:28.2] Yes.

00:46:29.4] How many?

00:46:31.0] Do you have that information?

00:46:32.2] I don't have that information.

00:46:35.8] I guess my question is how many, and are they being

00:46:39.5] used, and for what? And then what happens after the funding is gone,

00:46:43.6] then the maintenance and

00:46:46.0] operation that will come under general fund?

00:46:49.5] So all the buildings that we purchased with ARPA money are already paid

00:46:53.3] off.

00:46:55.1] And all the recurring maintenance is already in the budget.

00:47:00.0] If we have recurring maintenance for these buildings, yes, it is included

00:47:03.9] in the budget.

00:47:04.8] Okay. And my question is how many, and what are they being used

00:47:08.6] for?

00:47:10.0] Maybe Robert

00:47:11.6] or Elda.

00:47:13.2] So it is for the health department.

00:47:14.6] This was for the MCA clinic and the relocation of

00:47:18.6] the health department itself.

00:47:21.2] So the other ones were CARES, ma'am.

00:47:23.2] So you might recall we did, I believe it was three or four, I'm guessing.

00:47:26.4] I think it was four.

00:47:28.3] That was with the CARES funding. Some of those are still being used for clinics,

00:47:32.0] but they all are within our city inventory.

00:47:35.6] One actually is going to be the new home for the BOSS.

00:47:39.3] We also had the location across the street that I think was used for

00:47:43.0] epidemiology for a bit. We have several departments who are

00:47:46.9] utilizing that space, and I think the other two clinics are still clinics.

00:47:50.5] Mm-hmm.

00:47:50.8] And then the second round of money was the health department

00:47:54.2] relocation, and then a new clinic that we have.

00:47:56.6] Very good.

00:47:56.9] And the Moorhead building that was purchased with those funds.

00:48:00.4] Okay.

00:48:00.7] The school.

00:48:01.6] The Moorhead building,

00:48:03.7] was the Moorhead building originally...

00:48:07.8] It was expected to be for the animal services, half, and the other was

00:48:11.7] for

00:48:12.9] migrant. Is that correct, or am I-

00:48:15.3] So

00:48:16.9] it's for emergency services. I don't know that I have-

00:48:19.2] Emergency services.

00:48:19.6] Oh, okay.

00:48:20.7] Emergency services.

00:48:21.7] Chief Killings will come. Yep.

00:48:31.3] Good morning. Chief Killings, El Paso Fire Department.

00:48:33.4] So the Moorhead building,

00:48:35.3] portion of that building is under the control of animal services.

00:48:38.6] The other portion is under the Office of Emergency Management for backup

00:48:43.1] for the EOC and also for migrant

00:48:46.1] sheltering or any other sheltering in coordination with the Red Cross.

00:48:50.9] Okay.

00:48:52.3] Were there any

00:48:56.4] thoughts of expanding the animal service use to the entire

00:49:00.4] building, or is it limited for any particular

00:49:04.1] reason?

00:49:05.9] So the conversation that we originally had regarding animal services

00:49:09.7] was we,

00:49:11.8] get the year, the CO, we issued a CO in

00:49:15.3] 2018, '19. We were having a conversation about some expansions

00:49:19.2] of animal services. Initially, that was supposed to be at the initial site.

00:49:23.7] We took those additional dollars, added a few dollars to that to be able to get the

00:49:27.4] portion that they have.

00:49:29.5] All the dollars that were allocated to be able to do that work were utilized for

00:49:33.4] that project, and I believe there was also a couple of vehicles

00:49:37.9] that we purchased also with those dollars.

00:49:40.5] And so if council

00:49:42.4] wanted to do anything different, we would need to do the design and

00:49:46.1] actually go through some funding process for that.

00:49:48.8] Those were primarily through COs, and so I think as we're talking about

00:49:52.8] a larger bond, there would be opportunities for expansion.

00:49:56.6] What would be important to note, though, is with all of these,

00:50:00.2] it requires a lot more people. When we opened Morehead, that was around $4 million

00:50:04.5] more just for the people we have. And if we're talking about adding

00:50:08.7] surgical suites and all those things, we need to be very mindful of the O&M costs

00:50:12.7] that are going to be associated with those moving forward.

00:50:15.7] And I guess I'm just concerned

00:50:19.2] how we have two sites.

00:50:21.9] What would it look like to combine animal services into

00:50:26.0] one facility, one building? I know I took a

00:50:29.5] tour of animal services, and they're kind of

00:50:33.3] limited in some areas. And then we've got the other site

00:50:37.6] in District VII that is

00:50:40.4] really not

00:50:42.1] being used a lot, and that used to be a public facility for the

00:50:45.5] community that was turned into an animal services place again.

00:50:50.0] So I'm just wondering, at some point in time, Dion, maybe

00:50:53.9] talking or looking at the possibility of putting everything

00:50:57.8] into that one building that has the ability.

00:51:02.6] If we're looking at migrant services or emergency services,

00:51:06.9] perhaps that could be done in District VII.

00:51:09.8] I'd just be open to a possible conversation on that at a

00:51:13.6] later date.

00:51:16.0] I think we'll have an opportunity to talk about the overall strategy regarding

00:51:19.6] animal services. I think we also are looking at the county bring on their

00:51:23.4] facility in the next couple of years, and so I think that that will also shift

00:51:27.7] some of what we utilize. I do know from staff's perspective,

00:51:31.6] allowing for us to have multiple facilities that people can get

00:51:35.6] to on different sides of town have been very advantageous to us.

00:51:39.3] And so I do think it's worthwhile for council to sort of understand what those

00:51:42.4] costs and expenses are. I have seen some very beautiful,

00:51:46.4] very expensive facilities in other cities, and I think we would just have to

00:51:50.4] figure out whether that is the highest priority and best use of funds for the

00:51:53.7] department at this time.

00:51:55.1] Okay. Thank you.

00:51:58.1] Representative Nino.

00:52:00.2] Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

00:52:03.3] Super quick question.

00:52:07.0] In regards to the $909,000 that are still available that are unspent,

00:52:11.8] if you can help me understand, slide number 14, it says, "Available ARPA funds will

00:52:15.7] reimburse eligible expenses paid out of the general fund, creating capacity to

00:52:19.3] fund," and it has a list of,

00:52:21.4] I believe, projects. Are those the recommendations, essentially, of the

00:52:25.3] $909,000? Is that what I'm understanding?

00:52:27.9] Yes.

00:52:28.1] Yes.

00:52:28.7] Okay.

00:52:29.2] During the budget process, you might recall that we talked about, and we want to

00:52:32.9] verify the number, but it's a $1.6 million need that

00:52:36.8] Fire brought forth during the budget process for this critical piece of

00:52:40.4] equipment, and we couldn't put it in the budget at all.

00:52:43.4] And so we're looking at, even if it's not enough money,

00:52:47.1] to set that aside. So it definitely would help us during the next budget process to

00:52:51.2] be able to pay for that asset. From our perspective, as you know,

00:52:55.1] that we've been talking about

00:52:57.2] needing to find other sources of revenue for much of our pay

00:53:01.2] goal for next year, and so this is one of the things that I think should be a

00:53:04.8] cash

00:53:07.3] purchase, and then we would come back for others.

00:53:10.2] And so we have to obligate the funds as we're closing out this grant,

00:53:14.2] and so the action would be, one, to allow you all to have a discussion about

00:53:17.9] whether you think this is the highest and best use.

00:53:20.2] We wanted to give you a few weeks to be able to do that, but we want to come back

00:53:23.1] on the 9th, so as the team is starting to close out the grant, everything is in its

00:53:27.1] proper category. So there is allowance within the

00:53:31.0] grant documents to allow for us to be able to utilize the funds in this way.

00:53:35.4] We didn't charge any indirect or any of our administrative costs to it, so we would

00:53:39.3] want to use those dollars to be able to offset some of our taxes or

00:53:43.2] potential debt for the upcoming fiscal year.

00:53:45.6] Thank you for that clarification.

00:53:47.2] So we have approximately $909,000.

00:53:50.5] The replacement of the fleets and the rotters,

00:53:52.9] tough books for fire department. What was the total cost to replace that?

00:53:55.8] You had mentioned, is it one-

00:53:56.9] It was 1.6, but it also has a contract that's existing, so it was

00:54:01.0] one of the things that we looked at.

00:54:02.2] We didn't want to bring you an item that had another cost and expense

00:54:06.1] that was associated with it. And so we're going to see where those other

00:54:09.9] dollars sort of land with the spending and the drawdown, and I'm hoping that it's a

00:54:13.8] little bit higher and we can get closer to the actual cost.

00:54:17.0] But it would be really great to be able to get that really critical

00:54:21.2] resource for the fire department, because we have a lot of things that are already

00:54:24.2] coming up that we're going to have in next year's budget.

00:54:26.4] Ms. Mack, and can you repeat one more time in regards of the benefit of this,

00:54:29.8] because it mentions leveraging grant funding reduces the general

00:54:33.2] fund or debt burden.

00:54:35.4] Correct.

00:54:35.5] So instead of spending $1.6 million

00:54:39.0] in regards to the general fund or debt burden, we're essentially trying to allocate

00:54:42.3] some of this funding to help some of that burden from the taxpayers leveraging this

00:54:46.1] grant.

00:54:46.6] Correct. And so it'd mean that this is a one-time capital purchase, and

00:54:50.5] we already have the ongoing maintenance contract.

00:54:54.6] And so this would mean that this would be at least $990,000

00:54:58.7] that we would not need to add to debt service next

00:55:02.5] year or to add to our general fund for next year.

00:55:05.8] And some of these things we just can't keep kicking the can on.

00:55:08.4] We've got to figure out some solutions for them.

00:55:10.5] Perfect. I have no further questions. Thank you, Sasha and Ms. Mack.

00:55:15.2] Thank you, Sasha and the team. I have one question. Ms.

00:55:18.6] Mack, on slide 12, or maybe Sasha could answer this.

00:55:21.9] I know we've given some business grants and we've done some support for other local

00:55:25.6] businesses. Is there any data that shows what that support

00:55:29.5] has translated into either businesses that have employed

00:55:33.1] people, sales revenue, tax revenue, anything that they've generated in our

00:55:36.9] community?

00:55:39.9] We're happy to bring that presentation back when-- and those of us who were able

00:55:43.9] to go to the BOSS Gala, was just so proud of the businesses

00:55:47.8] and the community and

00:55:51.0] all the partners who have come to help us to be able to do that work.

00:55:53.5] So I think it will be a nice recap, and maybe we can bring it for the 9th along

00:55:57.1] with the presentation, if that's okay with you.

00:55:59.1] I think that would be very beneficial so that our community can see what investment

00:56:03.0] really looks like and translates into benefit for

00:56:06.9] everyone. Thank you, Ms. Mack.

00:56:09.2] Okay.

00:56:09.3] Thank you, Sasha. I don't believe we have any action on this item, so we don't need

00:56:12.5] a motion. Is that correct?

00:56:13.8] Yes.

00:56:14.2] Thank you so much. Thank you both.

00:56:16.7] That brings us to item four, and this is discussion regarding the presentation of

00:56:20.2] the 2026 Animal Shelter Advisory Committee, ASAC,

00:56:24.6] annual report to City Council.

00:56:37.0] Welcome, Representative Canales.

00:56:39.5] Thank you. So strange every year to present from this side.

00:56:46.4] All right.

00:56:49.3] Good morning. I'm here to deliver this presentation not

00:56:53.2] as the representative for District 8, but as the chair of the city's Animal Shelter

00:56:57.2] Advisory Committee,

00:56:58.9] and we wanted to

00:57:01.0] make sure that we present to the council our annual report,

00:57:05.1] along with six recommendations

00:57:08.5] that the committee wanted to make to the city council.

00:57:12.8] I'll start with a little bit of background about the committee.

00:57:17.4] It consists of 13 members,

00:57:21.4] one member appointed by each of the districts and by the mayor's

00:57:25.4] office, making nine, and then four specialized

00:57:28.8] positions

00:57:30.4] appointed by the mayor's office. And those four positions are one

00:57:34.0] licensed veterinarian,

00:57:36.4] one person whose daily duties include the operation

00:57:40.4] of an animal shelter,

00:57:42.6] one person who is a representative of an animal welfare organization, and

00:57:46.5] then one

00:57:48.0] city or county official.

00:57:51.0] That one is me.

00:57:55.3] Also, before we start presenting the report, wanted to acknowledge the work

00:57:59.3] of the Animal Shelter Advisory Committee's ad hoc

00:58:03.2] subcommittee for the development of the annual report,

00:58:07.2] and that consisted of myself, Tess Passero, who is the vice

00:58:11.1] chair, and also the Animal Welfare

00:58:14.8] Organization representative,

00:58:18.3] Megan Sesker. Also appointed by the mayor as the

00:58:23.2] shelter operator

00:58:25.1] position,

00:58:26.4] Sylvia Serna, the District 2 appointee, and Mary Barduch, the District

00:58:30.7] 7 appointee. So thank you to the committee who put in the work to

00:58:35.5] prepare the annual report and to

00:58:38.9] really go back through the minutes of the meetings and the videos of the meetings

00:58:42.9] to make sure that everything that the ASAC discussed was captured and that

00:58:46.5] informed the recommendations.

00:58:50.5] So we'll go very briefly and we'll take a look at the

00:58:54.4] ASAC's strategic plan. The ASAC has adopted its own

00:58:58.3] strategic plan with a mission to advise,

00:59:02.4] support, and advocate for the well-being of animals in the El Paso community

00:59:07.1] and a vision to be the leader in animal welfare.

00:59:14.4] Looking at our committee by the numbers, we held 11 meetings

00:59:18.4] across fiscal year 2026,

00:59:21.5] considered a total of 50 agenda items.

00:59:24.8] We had three of the seats turn over, so we welcomed three new members

00:59:28.6] during the fiscal year,

00:59:32.2] and we had a total ASAC meeting duration of 18 hours

00:59:36.1] and 28 minutes.

00:59:38.2] That's a lot of time for volunteers to dedicate to the committee service, so

00:59:42.2] thank you to everybody

00:59:43.8] for all that investment of time.

00:59:47.2] And of course, that time is multiplied by the 13 members who serve.

00:59:51.1] I apologize that the text is quite small here, but

00:59:55.8] we

00:59:57.4] went through quite a transition from

01:00:00.0] many years of meeting virtually as the Animal Shelter Advisory

01:00:03.9] Committee to

01:00:05.6] a first year, and it actually transitioned mid-year, but a first year of

01:00:09.6] meeting in person.

01:00:12.1] And so you see a slight decrease in the attendance rate from last

01:00:16.1] year, which was in the 90s, but still a very strong,

01:00:20.4] nearly 85% attendance rate from the committee.

01:00:24.0] They've been incredibly dedicated.

01:00:31.1] And what was discussed? So there were

01:00:35.0] many topics that the ASAC discussed over the term of the

01:00:39.8] report,

01:00:41.2] but there were five things that the subcommittee that prepared the report

01:00:45.4] identified as kind of the topics that

01:00:48.7] spanned multiple meetings or pervaded multiple

01:00:52.0] conversations.

01:00:54.0] Spay and neuter access and funding was the

01:00:58.2] number one most discussed issue, and the council saw that

01:01:02.1] in the form of a recommendation

01:01:04.9] in last year's annual report, and then also a separate recommendation

01:01:09.6] during the consideration of the budget for the city

01:01:12.6] just a few months ago.

01:01:15.1] But the committee

01:01:16.5] repeatedly discussed ways to expand access for the

01:01:20.3] public to spay and neuter services, including the

01:01:24.8] community spay-a-thons that the department already holds and

01:01:29.0] other potential ways to increase the services that

01:01:33.0] are available to the public.

01:01:35.6] We discussed at length animal ordinances and legal and

01:01:39.6] regulatory issues.

01:01:41.9] We spent time across multiple meetings talking about potential

01:01:45.8] amendments to Title 7.

01:01:48.1] The committee did take a position

01:01:51.1] during the

01:01:52.4] year to recommend to the council the adoption of

01:01:56.4] some amendments to Title 7 that were ultimately adopted, the

01:02:00.8] vicious dog and dangerous dog ordinances.

01:02:04.7] And so the committee was pleased that the council

01:02:08.8] listened to their recommendation.

01:02:13.0] The committee discussed animal services operations and

01:02:17.5] performance and shelter conditions very frequently.

01:02:22.0] At every meeting, the committee receives the director's report

01:02:25.8] from El Paso Animal Services. The committee's purview actually is

01:02:29.5] larger than just El Paso Animal Services.

01:02:32.2] It actually encompasses the entirety of El Paso

01:02:36.1] County and all of the

01:02:38.8] shelters and animal welfare operations at those shelters across the entirety of the

01:02:42.8] county. But we do hear every month from El Paso Animal Services,

01:02:47.1] and the operations of that shelter were

01:02:50.4] a large focus of the time that the committee spent in its meetings.

01:02:56.1] We discussed community resources, outreach, and public awareness.

01:03:00.4] Quite frequently, the topic came up about how we can better

01:03:03.9] connect residents to the services that already exist, how

01:03:07.7] residents can be made more aware

01:03:10.3] of,

01:03:12.1] again, available services, but also

01:03:14.8] Title 7 of the municipal code and our

01:03:17.7] animal welfare laws that are already on the books.

01:03:21.9] And we discussed the possible development of a community pet resource alert

01:03:25.8] page

01:03:27.8] to

01:03:29.4] put all of the resources in one place.

01:03:32.2] We also discussed regional coordination and ASAC's role.

01:03:35.3] As I mentioned, it has purview larger than just the city

01:03:38.9] shelter. And

01:03:40.6] for the last several years, I think a lot of the focus of the ASAC has been

01:03:43.8] primarily on the city shelter. As we see the county

01:03:47.8] go through their development process for their own large facility that was

01:03:51.6] approved by the voters a few years ago.

01:03:54.8] And

01:03:56.0] they restructure and grow their department.

01:03:58.6] We've begun to invite El Paso County

01:04:02.6] to now come present about their animal operations,

01:04:07.2] and that's been a fruitful partnership.

01:04:08.8] And the ASAC has discussed ways to further increase

01:04:12.7] engagement with other

01:04:14.8] shelters and rescues and other entities

01:04:17.7] that can come provide us with information about their operations at their shelters

01:04:21.6] across the county.

01:04:26.7] We also

01:04:28.1] identified some frequently raised concerns.

01:04:31.1] These were things that came up, again, across multiple meetings that we

01:04:35.0] thought were important to flag for the council.

01:04:39.5] You'll see some overlap with the frequently discussed topics, but insufficient

01:04:43.3] access to affordable spay and neuter services

01:04:46.2] was the primary concern that had the most

01:04:50.6] discussion at the ASAC meetings.

01:04:55.3] Again, that culminated in a recommendation to the council that

01:04:59.2] has already happened.

01:05:01.0] And

01:05:02.5] the committee was very happy that, again, the council

01:05:05.5] agreed to fund additional spay and neuter services in the budget

01:05:09.6] for fiscal year '27.

01:05:12.4] Maintaining strong shelter standards and animal care practices

01:05:16.1] was another frequently raised concern.

01:05:18.5] The committee discussed housing and sanitation and

01:05:22.6] appropriate separation of sick, injured, or diseased animals from healthy

01:05:26.2] animals.

01:05:30.2] The committee received a couple of updates on

01:05:34.0] the screw worm

01:05:37.5] outbreak

01:05:38.8] that we've seen in surrounding areas, and

01:05:43.3] thankfully

01:05:44.7] not heavily in El Paso yet. And fingers crossed that

01:05:48.2] we're in the clear here, but kind of all around us, there has been

01:05:52.3] a large outbreak of New World screw worm that has been very difficult for

01:05:57.0] shelters, animal welfare organizations, but also

01:06:00.4] farmers, ranchers, pet owners. It's created a lot of extra

01:06:04.2] burdens. And so that is another thing that the committee

01:06:08.0] discussed multiple times and actually brought in

01:06:11.3] some expert information and an expert to provide us with

01:06:15.2] information.

01:06:18.9] Another frequently raised concern was public awareness of animal

01:06:22.4] welfare resources. There are lots of great organizations

01:06:26.2] operating within the community and lots of great resources that the city

01:06:30.0] offers through the Animal Services Department.

01:06:33.8] But not everybody is aware of all of those services, and

01:06:37.7] so that was always something that the committee returned

01:06:41.5] to.

01:06:43.5] How can we increase that awareness and better connect people to those services?

01:06:48.3] The Pet Pantries program was one that was brought up frequently.

01:06:51.0] That's a program of the libraries, the El Paso Public Libraries,

01:06:54.9] not Animal Services, but it's another key service

01:06:58.8] for

01:07:00.1] pet owners in El Paso, and the committee frequently discussed ways to

01:07:03.8] better connect the people that those resources serve

01:07:07.8] to the availability of the resources.

01:07:11.6] And finally, supporting effective staffing, leadership, and regional

01:07:15.2] coordination. The committee discussed ways to better

01:07:19.2] recognize and support the employees,

01:07:22.3] in particular at El Paso Animal Services.

01:07:26.6] There are a lot of very difficult city jobs, but I would put some of

01:07:30.6] those positions at Animal Services up against any of them.

01:07:34.3] They're both physically difficult and I think emotionally difficult for a lot of

01:07:37.9] those employees. And so the ASAC

01:07:40.7] I was very focused on

01:07:43.9] making sure that those employees are being supported in their work

01:07:48.1] and

01:07:49.4] discussing ways that

01:07:51.8] potentially the community can support or the city can support those

01:07:55.4] employees better.

01:08:01.0] And so the ASAC, as a result, is making six

01:08:04.6] recommendations to the council.

01:08:07.2] You've seen recommendations come forward over the last couple of years,

01:08:10.9] and

01:08:12.5] the

01:08:14.1] subcommittee who prepared the report actually wanted me specifically to

01:08:17.9] thank the council for

01:08:20.3] adopting a lot of the recommendations that have come from the ASAC over the past

01:08:24.5] couple of years. And so

01:08:27.3] we can move to the first recommendation, and that is to establish recurring

01:08:31.0] funding to sustain high-volume spay and neuter services.

01:08:36.3] Again, the committee was very grateful that the council included, for the first

01:08:40.0] time, funding for

01:08:42.2] very high volume spay/neuter event, a single

01:08:46.1] event but a large one,

01:08:48.5] in the fiscal year 2027 budget.

01:08:52.0] The recommendation from the committee is essentially to

01:08:55.4] consider making that level of support something that's permanently included in

01:08:59.3] the city's budget in order to

01:09:03.2] be able to provide that expanded service to the public.

01:09:07.1] We anticipate that the funded program

01:09:11.1] in fiscal year 2027 will provide an additional,

01:09:15.5] somewhere between 1,000 and 1,400 spay and neuter surgeries

01:09:19.6] to the public.

01:09:21.1] And that can make a real dent in the number of animals that we see coming into the

01:09:25.1] shelter.

01:09:26.4] So we hope that this is something that the council will consider

01:09:30.1] in the development of next year's budget.

01:09:35.8] Recommendation number two is strengthen regional coordination and shared

01:09:39.2] responsibility for animal welfare.

01:09:41.3] Again, this is something that

01:09:43.9] is already

01:09:45.4] ongoing, and we've seen, I think, a strengthening of ties

01:09:49.2] between

01:09:50.6] city animal services, and then the

01:09:53.9] county's animal welfare department as well.

01:09:57.3] We want to continue

01:09:59.2] expanding those partnerships and making sure

01:10:02.9] that the council

01:10:05.7] is engaged as well on the

01:10:09.5] relationships that happen with counterparts at the county and other

01:10:13.4] jurisdictions with regard to their work on animal

01:10:17.3] welfare.

01:10:20.0] Recommendation number three is to maintain and modernize animal services

01:10:23.2] facilities, equipment, and fleet.

01:10:27.5] As was mentioned during the budget process recently, a lot of the

01:10:31.5] animal services fleet in particular is

01:10:35.5] beyond its useful life at this point.

01:10:39.3] And a lot of those vehicles, particularly the animal protection

01:10:43.4] officer vehicles that are out in the field every day,

01:10:46.9] are hanging on by a thread.

01:10:48.5] So this

01:10:52.8] recommendation number three

01:10:56.0] was to invest in those tools that the

01:11:01.4] El Paso Animal Services

01:11:03.5] needs

01:11:05.3] every day.

01:11:07.1] And again, facilities are a part of that as well.

01:11:10.4] There have been significant facilities upgrades at animal

01:11:14.1] services,

01:11:15.6] but there's always more need, and there are animals

01:11:19.3] being held because of capacity in temporary

01:11:22.8] facilities that

01:11:26.1] is not necessarily a longer-term sustainable solution.

01:11:29.5] And so the committee recommends making the investments in

01:11:33.4] those infrastructure pieces that the department needs.

01:11:39.0] Our recommendation number four is continuing strategies that reduce length of

01:11:42.8] stay and improve positive outcomes.

01:11:46.3] El Paso Animal Services has presented regularly to the committee about

01:11:51.7] pretty comprehensive restructuring of the foster program, the adoption

01:11:55.7] program, the behavioral program, the medical program,

01:12:02.1] and

01:12:03.6] placement practices. And so

01:12:07.8] all of that is change that's very welcome, and the

01:12:11.6] committee wants to make sure that those changes are

01:12:16.6] continued and that they're made formal parts of the way

01:12:20.4] that El Paso Animal Services operates.

01:12:23.7] Length of stay data is showing that the average length of

01:12:27.6] stay for animals is coming down significantly,

01:12:30.9] which is a great thing for capacity at the shelter.

01:12:36.1] So we hope that these upgrades and changes

01:12:39.8] to policies within the department continue.

01:12:44.2] And recommendation number five is to balance effective enforcement with a

01:12:47.7] strong community safety net.

01:12:50.8] The committee discussed at length, as I said,

01:12:55.3] Title 7, both changes to the city

01:12:59.0] code

01:13:00.4] with regard to animals and animal welfare,

01:13:03.4] but also enforcement of existing code

01:13:08.0] on things ranging from animal cruelty to breeding and sale

01:13:12.3] to standards of care.

01:13:15.0] We want to make sure that

01:13:17.0] that

01:13:18.4] enforcement aspect is also balanced with providing

01:13:22.3] resources to the public

01:13:24.4] in order to

01:13:26.3] maybe alleviate some of the pressures that people feel that can lead to some of the

01:13:30.5] bad behaviors or violations of Title 7.

01:13:34.2] So that includes things like pet food assistance, as mentioned before,

01:13:37.7] accessible spay and neuter services, lower cost veterinary care

01:13:43.3] Im-improve public education. That's something that we've seen from the

01:13:47.6] department already, but that we want to see an expansion of,

01:13:51.1] and better communication of available resources to the public.

01:13:56.3] And finally, recommendation number six is to invest in animal services

01:14:00.3] workforce capacity and development.

01:14:03.3] The department has wonderful employees and as I said earlier,

01:14:07.2] many of them doing very difficult jobs.

01:14:10.8] And so, the committee

01:14:12.7] recognizes that successful animal welfare outcomes

01:14:16.7] depend on

01:14:18.1] the staff at the shelter who are

01:14:22.0] being asked to do a lot of work,

01:14:24.8] doing that work in a way where they feel supported.

01:14:29.6] We want to

01:14:30.8] make sure that the focus is on identifying

01:14:34.5] ways that these employees can advance through the department,

01:14:39.3] strengthening the career pathways available to them, reducing

01:14:43.0] vacancies and turnover at the shelter,

01:14:47.1] and then recognizing the employees that are doing a great job,

01:14:51.2] and making sure that the staffing capacity keeps pace with the needs

01:14:55.2] of the shelter.

01:15:01.1] We also wanted to give special thanks to those who have been involved in the

01:15:05.0] meetings of the ASAC over the fiscal year.

01:15:09.5] Michael Waksman, the interim director at El Paso Animal Services, presents his

01:15:12.9] report to us at every meeting. So thank you to Michael.

01:15:15.9] Those reports have gotten more and more detailed.

01:15:18.2] They're now broken down

01:15:20.2] by program within the department, and we get a great

01:15:24.0] density of information from those.

01:15:26.9] I'll give extra special shout-outs to Maria Arciniega,

01:15:30.8] who is the staff liaison to the committee and prepares our

01:15:34.7] agendas and makes sure that

01:15:37.5] we're on track. And then,

01:15:40.2] another extra special shout-out to Mona Heydarian, who

01:15:44.2] is the staff attorney from the city attorney's office

01:15:48.5] assigned to the committee,

01:15:50.7] who in addition to all of the duties

01:15:54.7] of this assigned staff attorney, also gives us excellent

01:15:58.7] presentations quarterly about the ASAC's duties.

01:16:02.9] And we rotate through

01:16:05.3] the state law provisions that establish the ASAC and then the city code

01:16:08.9] provisions.

01:16:10.7] The ASAC is a strange committee in that it has

01:16:14.5] some requirements from the state and state law.

01:16:17.9] The city is required to have an Animal Shelter Advisory Committee,

01:16:22.5] but then also separate requirements from the city code.

01:16:25.9] And so in order to foster understanding both for the public and for

01:16:29.8] the members,

01:16:31.7] Mona goes through those presentations with us very regularly and it's very helpful.

01:16:35.8] So extra big shout-outs to those folks.

01:16:39.8] And that was the last slide. So with that,

01:16:42.1] I'm happy to answer any questions.

01:16:45.5] Thank you for the presentation.

01:16:48.1] Representative Rocha.

01:16:50.7] Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you, Representative Canales, or should I say

01:16:54.4] President of ASAC Canales?

01:16:57.1] Put your president hat on. And a lot of these recommendations-

01:17:00.5] Chair. President sounds like a two bigger promotion.

01:17:02.8] Well, chairman.

01:17:05.0] Yeah.

01:17:05.0] So,

01:17:06.6] with all these recommendations, a lot of these are already being

01:17:09.7] implemented to some form.

01:17:11.7] Yes.

01:17:12.0] Correct?

01:17:13.2] Yes. And again,

01:17:14.7] recall this is

01:17:16.4] timed to the fiscal year-

01:17:18.0] Right

01:17:18.0] ... so it has already been a few months and many of the things that were

01:17:21.7] discussed and recommended here in the report did get considered and

01:17:25.4] adopted in the meanwhile.

01:17:27.3] So I want to give thanks to Michael and his staff

01:17:31.7] for really taking that initiative to be

01:17:35.6] able to do that. I know that now

01:17:39.0] you all are closing once a month, if I'm not mistaken, to clean

01:17:43.0] and just do a real deep cleaning if I'm not mistaken, and do some

01:17:46.7] staff

01:17:49.3] training. And so I think that all of that is super important to be able

01:17:53.3] to make sure that

01:17:55.3] you're reaching these particular goals.

01:17:59.4] The one concern, I know that as a council, we

01:18:03.3] adopted or included the recommendation for the

01:18:07.1] low-cost spay and neuter, right?

01:18:09.0] Yes.

01:18:09.2] Which I think is a total of 128,000. Is that right?

01:18:13.7] 122,000.

01:18:14.8] 122,000. And so that's going to come.

01:18:17.7] Unfortunately, we didn't pass the additional piece which

01:18:21.7] would have given the maintenance of the vehicles

01:18:25.9] on the animal services portion,

01:18:30.7] the much needed care that they need in order to be out there in the

01:18:34.6] community to do everything in the public education piece,

01:18:38.4] everything in being out in the community.

01:18:41.0] I really do support the recommendations that ASAC has

01:18:45.0] provided. I think that we need to do

01:18:49.7] some creativity as to how we can include more

01:18:53.6] for animal services. So thank you. I really appreciate it.

01:18:57.6] And thank you to the committee as well for their work.

01:19:04.8] Representative Nino.

01:19:06.4] Thank you, Chairman Canales, as well for all your work on this important

01:19:10.2] advocacy that has to take place in our community. I have one super quick follow-up.

01:19:13.8] During the conversation about the

01:19:16.2] spay and neuter services-

01:19:17.4] Mm-hmm

01:19:17.5] ... we mentioned a little about an organization possibly also

01:19:21.4] taking part of doing other spay and neuter events.

01:19:24.4] Do you know if they were able to approve that, or did they agree on

01:19:28.3] moving that forward?

01:19:30.5] It's still not 100% decided. Again,

01:19:34.7] the

01:19:35.9] city

01:19:37.4] approved funding for one event.

01:19:41.0] There's still the possibility of a couple of other events that

01:19:45.0] funding would come from

01:19:46.7] elsewhere. And so,

01:19:48.7] it's still not Committed, but I think it's very likely that we

01:19:52.6] will see additional work with that organization,

01:19:56.5] Greater Good Charities.

01:19:59.7] They have already visited El Paso.

01:20:03.8] They were here less than two weeks ago

01:20:07.0] for

01:20:08.9] site visits and going through their planning

01:20:12.9] process for bringing that first event here.

01:20:16.4] They

01:20:17.7] were,

01:20:18.8] I think it's fair to say,

01:20:20.8] their words, they were blown away by El Paso and the operation that we have going

01:20:24.5] here. They were very excited to work with us.

01:20:27.7] And so, I think that they

01:20:30.5] very much want to continue to have a presence here.

01:20:33.1] And

01:20:34.4] the funding pieces just have to come together for additional events for them.

01:20:37.3] But I think it's very likely.

01:20:38.8] Okay. No, I just wanted to follow up on that because I know that we had talked

01:20:41.4] briefly about that, and I was just curious to see if the other organizations had

01:20:45.0] agreed or not. But thank you for all your work. Appreciate it.

01:20:47.4] No further questions.

01:20:50.5] Thank you, Chair Canales. I also have a question.

01:20:53.0] Okay.

01:20:53.6] I know there are some board members that have been there for a bit

01:20:57.4] longer, and some others that are new.

01:21:00.0] What is the process of accepting these recommendations?

01:21:03.3] Was it unanimous from the board, or how does everybody feel about them?

01:21:07.4] Yeah.

01:21:08.5] Again, there was the subcommittee of myself plus

01:21:13.2] four other members, who

01:21:15.8] made an initial pass at the annual report.

01:21:18.7] It was then presented to the full committee,

01:21:22.3] who did adopt this unanimously, the

01:21:27.0] report and the six recommendations in the state they're currently in.

01:21:29.7] There were some small adjustments that were made along the way, but

01:21:33.7] yes, it was

01:21:35.0] a unanimous vote by the committee.

01:21:37.6] Okay. And that's really good to know, to see that there's consensus within the

01:21:40.8] committee for these recommendations.

01:21:43.0] I think it was a data point that you said, and I think it's important

01:21:47.1] probably to highlight it once again, how many additional spay and neuters you

01:21:50.9] think will take place given that additional funding that we adopted through the

01:21:54.8] budget?

01:21:56.2] Yeah. We anticipate somewhere between 1,000 and

01:21:59.4] 1,400.

01:22:01.6] We'll probably be in the ballpark of 1,200 additional

01:22:05.6] surgeries. A lot of it, I think, depends on the balance of

01:22:09.3] dog surgeries and cat surgeries.

01:22:12.4] Some are faster than others.

01:22:13.7] Right.

01:22:13.9] Larger dogs versus small dogs and things like that.

01:22:15.8] But it will be somewhere in that ballpark.

01:22:17.9] Okay. That's really good to know. And in addition to that, we've been supporting,

01:22:21.8] of course, the department because I do think they brought forward an

01:22:25.6] increase in their budget this fiscal year. Do you remember?

01:22:29.0] I think it was about $1.5 million-

01:22:31.6] Yes, that's-

01:22:31.8] ... in additional funding.

01:22:33.4] Mm-hmm.

01:22:34.5] And I'm really happy that the council has been supportive of the department.

01:22:38.2] I know that there's a lot of need across many city departments in our city.

01:22:41.6] So, we're happy to support. And I have a question, but I'll ask you

01:22:45.5] probably after the meeting-

01:22:46.7] Okay

01:22:47.2] ... regarding something specific to District 1.

01:22:49.8] Sounds good.

01:22:50.1] Thank you. Thank you, Chair Canales.

01:22:51.6] All right.

01:22:51.7] And I don't believe this is posted for any action.

01:22:53.8] It is not. One final note. At

01:22:56.8] full crew, the committee has 13 members.

01:23:01.3] There are currently two vacancies.

01:23:03.0] So I promise, not trying to shame anybody, just so

01:23:07.0] folks are aware, District 6 has a vacancy,

01:23:12.2] and District 7 has a fresh vacancy,

01:23:16.1] but a member who's eligible for reappointment.

01:23:18.6] And so,

01:23:20.7] otherwise, the committee currently stands at

01:23:23.9] 11 out of the 13 members. And one

01:23:27.8] final thing to say, and that is a big shout-out to

01:23:31.6] Barbara Candelaria, who served on the committee

01:23:35.5] for quite a long time,

01:23:37.7] and just termed out. So she's done

01:23:41.7] a couple of stints on the committee and

01:23:45.1] has been really a mainstay for years and years.

01:23:47.9] And

01:23:49.1] she was the District 6 appointee, and her term has expired.

01:23:52.7] So thank you to Barbara for the many years of service on the committee.

01:23:57.0] That's great. Thank you. I don't think there's any further questions.

01:24:00.1] All right. Thank you.

01:24:02.0] Ms. Prime, before we retire into executive, I think we have public

01:24:05.6] comment.

01:24:06.6] Yes, ma'am. There's public comment on EX1 from Kyle Elliott.

01:24:12.7] Good morning, Mr. Elliott. You have three minutes.

01:24:15.1] Good morning. Thank you.

01:24:16.8] Good morning.

01:24:18.0] Good morning. Mayor Pro Tem, city council members, thank you very much for giving

01:24:21.8] me this opportunity to speak to you about

01:24:26.3] the reason that I came here. My name is Kyle Elliott, and I'm a

01:24:30.1] resident of the Rancho Soreno community in El Paso's Upper

01:24:33.9] Valley. And this morning, simply all I want to do is just read a

01:24:37.3] statement from our homeowners association

01:24:40.5] concerning an ongoing problem that's

01:24:42.8] pushing two years

01:24:44.4] at this point. So, if I may.

01:24:45.9] "Dear council

01:24:49.6] representative for District 1 and city attorney's office.

01:24:53.2] The Rancho Soreno Homeowners Association supports affected

01:24:56.9] residents'

01:24:58.6] request for effective enforcement concerning the paddle courts adjacent to our

01:25:02.2] neighborhood.

01:25:04.0] Residents report recurring court noise, yelling, music, and

01:25:07.7] bright overhead lighting extending well into the nighttime hours.

01:25:11.5] These disturbances interfere with the peaceful enjoyment of nearby homes

01:25:15.7] and raise concerns about the long-term effects of our neighborhood's residential

01:25:19.5] character, marketability, and property values.

01:25:22.3] Although the property is outside our HOA, its impact extends into our

01:25:26.4] community. Regardless of whether paid commercial operations have

01:25:30.0] ceased or not,

01:25:32.5] residents report that the noise and lighting disturbances continue.

01:25:36.2] We respectfully request that the city address any established zoning,

01:25:40.0] permitting, noise, and lighting violations and pursue measures

01:25:43.9] that achieve lasting compliance.

01:25:46.3] We also oppose commercial rezoning or further expansion that would intensify these

01:25:50.2] impacts. Please include this correspondence in the city in record

01:25:54.2] for the city's consideration of this matter.

01:25:56.4] We appreciate your attention and ask that you advise us of any additional

01:26:00.2] documentation residents can provide to assist enforcement.

01:26:03.8] Sincerely, Board of Directors, Rancho Sorrento Homeowners Association.

01:26:08.5] And with that,

01:26:11.7] that's it.

01:26:12.6] Thank you, Mr. Elliott.

01:26:14.0] Thank you very much.

01:26:15.9] Council, is there a motion to return to executive session?

01:26:19.2] So moved.

01:26:19.2] Second.

01:26:19.8] There's the motion and a second to return to executive session. All in favor?

01:26:24.2] Aye.

01:26:24.2] Anyone opposed?

01:26:25.9] And the City Council of the City of El Paso may return to executive session

01:26:28.9] pursuant to Section 3.5a of the El Paso City Charter and the Texas Government Code

01:26:32.9] Chapter 551 Subchapter D to discuss any of the

01:26:36.6] following executive session item one, Patricia Alvarez and Paddle

01:26:40.4] Ranch Health and Wellness under 551.071.

01:26:43.7] Executive session item two, Ysleta del Sur Pueblo versus City of El Paso, cause

01:26:47.5] number EP-23-CV-132-DCG

01:26:52.1] under 551.071. Executive session item three, real estate

01:26:56.0] division update, HQ number 25-5035 under

01:27:00.5] 551.072, and executive session item four, legal advice regarding the grant

01:27:04.3] application to Meta Platforms, Inc.

01:27:06.6] through the Futures for Everyone fund, requesting $4 million in grant funds

01:27:10.6] with no match required from the City of El Paso for the El Paso Climate Action

01:27:14.6] Implementation Program under 551.071.

01:27:18.0] These measures are taken into executive session under 551.071.

01:27:22.1] Consultation with attorney in 551.072.

01:27:25.4] Deliberation regarding real property. It is 10:23 AM.

01:32:04.5] I just want to make sure that

01:32:06.5] I save enough time for this

01:32:08.9] course and the other students.

01:32:30.2] Also, what do you mean by the cost?

01:32:31.4] I mean, the economy of it. You want to make sure

01:32:35.7] that it's not going to be

01:32:40.2] . But this is

01:32:40.6] just

01:32:48.5] for one water.

01:32:50.0] I'm just wondering because the water situation is getting

01:33:11.6] tight.

01:33:15.6] There's been lots of less water. So one

01:33:19.5] test was four bottles a day.

01:33:23.8] So 100K gallons per day,

01:33:27.8] which

01:33:29.8] we just worked with the

01:33:33.3] portfolio stuff and they're taking about the same amount.

01:33:37.0] And then they are only spending 30,000 gallons a

01:33:43.2] day, which is peanuts compared to the similar portfolio properties on the school.

01:33:46.1] All 14 units are 500,000 a year.

01:33:48.7] Wow! So it would be less. What communities are going to be less than

01:33:52.7] the equivalent of all those?

01:33:54.7] Okay. So there's a lot of

01:33:58.6] noise about something that maybe is

01:34:01.5] stored.

01:34:03.8] Well, that's encouraging.

01:34:05.5] Yes. We're not doing that well.

01:34:08.7] It's not on that

01:34:10.0] big part.

01:34:19.1] Is this your first visit here?

01:34:20.8] Yes.

01:34:21.3] Welcome.

01:34:21.6] Thank you.

01:34:22.0] Have you made

01:34:25.0] it in?

01:34:25.8] No, I haven't.

01:34:26.9] This is Diane Allen. She's going to be your attorney and help you with real

01:34:30.7] estate.

01:34:32.6] Is that your area of expertise, real estate?

01:34:35.1] Yes.

01:34:35.7] Well, I'm going to need a ton of help with that.

01:34:37.4] I've done a lot of different property issues.

01:34:41.6] Nice.

01:34:41.7] Maybe it's going to be a game changer for some of

01:34:45.0] the people.

01:34:45.2] I mean, in general, I'm sure

01:34:48.0] any company would want to take

01:34:50.3] a

01:34:51.5] call on that.

01:34:51.8] But with the background in hospitality real estate, it seems like there's a lot of

01:34:54.8] flexibility for a company to be able to adjust their policies to be more

01:34:58.8] flexible about things being done

01:35:02.6] remotely.

01:35:03.7] Where were you working?

01:35:05.8] Before this, I was working in education, and I was getting super frustrated

01:35:10.0] with education. I don't think they're the most

01:35:12.9] innovative. They're all run by

01:35:16.2] bureaucrats, I think.

01:35:18.2] Okay. I think so.

01:35:19.7] They're very small.

01:35:26.1] You said you were

01:35:28.7] working in education.

01:35:29.7] I was

01:35:29.9] working

01:35:35.1] in housing with crisis workers still.

01:35:35.1] Really?

01:35:35.1] Yeah. I just felt like I was always doing too

01:35:38.1] much stuff. If I was trying to just make ends

01:35:41.5] meet.

01:35:41.9] You are a survivor.

01:35:44.7] Which I did a lot about coming to law school.

01:35:46.8] So I don't know. I just

01:35:50.5] feel like it's too much.

01:35:53.4] Yeah. So it feels like right now you're figuring out that one.

01:35:59.1] Yeah.

01:35:59.1] Yeah.

01:35:59.1] Honestly, I was kind of looking for a job.

01:36:02.0] Like I said.

01:36:04.1] I understand.

01:36:05.1] Yeah.

01:36:08.2] There's been plenty of times I took the first job offer.

01:36:12.7] You won't run out of interviews today.

01:36:14.8] Oh, no. Things get very busy.

01:36:16.6] Something from your last job

01:36:30.4] that you

01:36:30.6] really

01:36:37.1] liked or a future device?

01:36:37.5] It's always a vision.

01:36:39.2] Oh, okay.

01:36:39.9] Do you

01:36:40.1] think

01:36:46.7] it's just too early? Yeah. That's where I would go.

01:36:50.4] What's GS2?

01:36:50.5] What's that?

01:36:53.6] GS2.

01:36:55.9] Everyone has that.

01:36:58.0] Oh, I do.

01:36:59.6] Or at least take them all.

01:37:02.2] Yeah, sorry. I was studying the abbreviation.

01:37:04.8] I think I see it somewhere else too.

01:37:07.0] Oh, okay.

01:37:07.9] But I heard that in my

01:37:23.1] grad program.

01:37:24.5] Yes.

01:37:32.8] Correct.

01:37:45.6] I was like, do you still see that?

01:37:45.9] Is that an iPad or a Surface Pro?

01:37:48.0] This is an iPad.

01:37:49.7] Does everything function like a SharePoint?

01:37:52.6] SharePoint, yes.

01:37:57.7] What else would work though?

01:37:59.4] Just functionality because I know-

01:38:11.6] I think the only thing that I cannot do very well is anything myself.

01:38:18.4] I can see it but modifying them is

01:38:28.2] because I have expectations and I can

01:38:37.0] .

01:38:37.1] You know what problem could be explained with that?

01:38:40.4] On my math grad, there was

01:38:42.9] something about just the interface and how much you could do

01:39:27.0] with it. Oh, shoot!

01:39:30.4] We weren't muted.

01:39:34.0] What?

01:39:35.8] It's

01:39:39.8] wonderful.

01:39:42.0] So I'm glad we're

01:39:42.8] complaining

01:41:51.7] about

01:42:25.0] it.

01:50:35.5] I don't even know

01:50:37.2] what your response

01:50:43.0] is. Well, I think that the AI has not adopted.

01:50:46.4] I've got to learn to use Claude, ChatGPT,

01:50:50.4] or something.

01:50:51.9] And you may be so good at it that you're writing all these headlines and

01:50:55.4] answering questions much more efficiently

01:50:58.7] than I can. So I

01:51:02.6] end up being the college professor kind of thing

01:51:07.1] where she's going to get all these headlines from all these other places,

01:51:11.9] and it creates this kind of like this fog or something.

01:51:17.5] There's something about AI that's really equitable or a visual

01:51:21.4] aid

01:51:22.5] or something like

01:51:25.6] that. And I think that's one of the values of using

01:51:34.0] AI. It becomes very popular very quickly.

01:51:37.2] And so the problem with creating and teaching something is that you teach yourself

01:51:39.7] into technology. And whether or not it actually works for you or is successful or

01:51:39.9] not is like

01:51:49.8] a very different thing. And

01:51:54.5] while I understand why they would

01:51:55.9] want

01:52:00.0] to do that, I think

01:52:04.1] you have to contract

01:52:05.8] that

01:52:08.1] people will use things that way because it doesn't-- You can see where the AI was

01:52:09.8] probably thinking but wasn't correct

01:52:13.1] because- Yeah, there's some great uses for that,

01:52:18.8] but for imaging or something- Oh,

01:52:21.1] yeah.

01:52:27.0] Cancer research.

01:52:30.7] Gene edits. You have to go through

01:52:32.6] all those

01:52:34.0] obvious legal rights and things

01:52:38.0] like that. They also teach you how

01:52:43.9] to do things the same or a certain way,

01:52:47.3] and that means this thing is probably also

01:52:51.2] true. Except for stuff like cancer.

01:52:56.1] Yeah, and I think it was really interesting because the thing is, is that

01:53:00.2] we

01:53:06.8] have this big bubble of public sentiment where this

01:53:10.7] is so much application, and it's

01:53:14.7] working. But it all works until it doesn't work.

01:53:22.4] And I think

01:53:24.2] the history is showing that.

01:53:26.6] Which means that from this brief use that I had, and that

01:53:30.6] was a whole station that was like, "Oh no, I

01:53:34.8] had this whole big communication with this thing that turned into spam or they were

01:53:44.9] using AI to promote a product or something, and it didn't do what they

01:53:48.9] said it would do." And all of a sudden, yeah, that's when it's just like,

01:53:52.7] "Oh."

01:53:54.5] And

01:53:55.8] I didn't see anything come out of it negatively.

01:54:00.3] It's like so last week, two weeks ago, there was a

01:54:06.7] semi-famous person who posted naked

01:54:09.8] imagery. And so there was this

01:54:14.0] whole thing.

01:54:19.3] But in 2024, seeing just across

01:54:23.5] every practice area, there's almost nobody high that

01:54:27.6] isn't hearing about it.

01:54:31.6] And it seems to be having a bunch of people that are businesses seeing this as

01:54:35.0] something

01:54:36.6] that can either be on their side as opposed to

01:54:40.0] completely overwhelming them and destroying them.

01:54:44.9] I think a lot of people are going to

01:54:49.9] figure out very quickly that they're going to have to

01:54:52.7] do something about it. And I don't know.

01:54:56.2] When did you start this license issue?

01:55:04.7] In March. And the person in law school.

01:55:08.6] So for them, that is just what

01:55:12.9] we have.

01:55:24.7] And it's like, "Well, I don't know." And I think that's one of the biggest problems

01:55:28.0] is that most people who do something- Sure. ...

01:55:30.0] that's gone already scored 70 to 80% on

01:55:32.9] their potential testing

01:55:36.9] anyway. But

01:55:38.2] in a four-hole three-page section on how to use AI in this context, it's not very

01:55:41.9] descriptive.

01:55:51.7] In law school? Yeah. Because I have an email I know people get caught

01:55:55.6] by that all the time.

01:55:58.1] When you're researching, you have to look

01:56:01.0] at your text first and then

01:56:05.2] in order to find individual cases, you have to go to Westlaw

01:56:09.2] or LexisNexis.

01:56:11.2] So you understand what the scope of intelligence solutions

01:56:14.9] means. There's a lot of stuff that you have to do before you even get to the point

01:56:18.4] where it's educating you about what

01:56:22.6] intelligence means for you as opposed to

01:56:26.3] what it means for the next couple of years.

02:02:50.4] It's not perfect.

02:02:52.9] Yeah, and that just makes it a little quicker.

02:02:54.8] So five figures, automatic population, but the wall right

02:02:58.5] there. So I think we can pull that. And

02:03:02.5] the other thing that comes to mind is these walls all

02:03:05.7] around

02:03:17.0] the theater.

02:03:17.8] I think that actually goes for it.

02:03:19.6] Yeah,

02:03:22.3] they're going to use the wall location for

02:03:24.7] the

02:03:28.6] pop-up.

02:03:29.5] I assume whatever exists now.

02:03:30.6] Yeah.

02:03:30.6] I think that deserves attention.

02:03:30.6] Yeah.

02:03:30.6] I think that makes a lot of sense.

02:03:30.6] You know what? Here's another question. I have a wall between us.

02:03:30.8] So many choices.

02:03:30.8] We want to have two weeks of credits to go along with that.

02:03:33.4] Yeah.

02:03:34.0] So that gives us upwards of 15 weeks on it.

02:03:37.9] Yeah.

02:03:38.3] I like that.

02:03:38.7] That's the

02:03:42.7] same

02:03:47.6] concept.

02:03:47.9] Okay. Oh, yeah.

02:03:49.4] That is on course a little later.

02:03:50.3] Yeah.

02:03:50.3] We're saying a quarter of the way out.

02:03:55.8] Yeah.

02:03:56.2] There's one path that they track on.

02:03:58.9] Yeah.

02:04:02.2] I guess they all are.

02:04:03.1] How many classes do you think they might have?

02:04:06.5] I'm not going to say we can do that.

02:04:08.0] It's like a whole quarter.

02:04:11.1] Yeah.

02:04:11.6] We're not at six,

02:04:16.1] we're probably at seven.

02:04:16.5] So the next step, the next direct step is to do a statutory

02:04:20.4] notice. So there's a section within the qualified notice triggering,

02:04:24.6] and I have that letter drafted. We would send that to the

02:04:28.5] clerk and then from there,

02:04:31.6] responses received and everything, that would be in good time for

02:04:35.5] purposes of submitting. I think that after that, that

02:04:39.7] kind of feedback would be maybe the best time to talk to the

02:04:46.7] clerk and ask for 15

02:04:49.1] minutes.

02:04:55.9] I mean, I think that we'll necessarily going to get to the next point once we

02:04:59.7] get

02:05:03.9] to what they're helping with,

02:05:10.7] but I think it's just

02:05:14.2] starting to get to the point where we have to tell people

02:05:18.3] that we didn't get this message.

02:05:20.7] We're working on this. The rest is

02:05:24.6] up to us. And then also always

02:05:28.1] bringing up one part of the conversation and not the other.

02:05:31.6] That was actually my question.

02:05:33.2] Yeah.

02:05:34.5] Yeah,

02:05:46.4] I wanted to check

02:06:02.2] in with you about that. I would need to start outreach and see if this is something

02:06:04.9] that they would appreciate.

02:06:05.5] Yeah.

02:06:05.5] I know you want to do this.

02:06:05.6] Yeah.

02:06:05.6] So we have like five right now.

02:06:05.6] Yeah, I saw something earlier today.

02:06:06.1] I would say give us a week.

02:06:06.7] I would say give us a week, yeah.

02:06:09.8] These are going to save the seat. Can we talk on Friday, Nick, for us?

02:06:18.2] Okay.

02:06:27.2] Sure.

02:06:28.8] Okay.

02:06:29.7] There's not one other way.

02:06:30.8] Yeah.

02:06:31.3] Oh, of course.

02:08:43.0] Certain things.

02:08:45.7] All right.

02:08:46.6] I think we're good.

02:08:48.7] That's good.

02:08:50.3] Yeah.

02:15:10.2] Yeah.

02:15:14.1] Well,

02:15:15.9] we got two

02:15:16.4] things

02:15:25.2] that we wanted to do. That's nice. Did you get everything today?

02:15:32.6] Yeah. How big

02:15:33.2] is

02:15:46.9] it?

02:15:50.2] Actually, I hired someone just to do that.

02:15:59.4] I thought they did a pretty good job. Thank you very much.

02:16:11.1] Okay. My mom put-- Because our house

02:16:15.2] is 3,000 square feet.

02:16:22.8] And they quoted us 30K for, I guess,

02:16:26.9] a ton of jobs that would just require

02:16:31.4] some

02:16:33.1] maybe 10 years, but would last 50

02:16:35.7] years.

02:16:42.5] Whereas this one lasted-

02:16:55.6] They can tell it's not. And they told me,

02:16:58.1] I have to go up and make sure that the mortar's not broken.

02:17:05.2] Yeah. I'll send you the proof. Okay. That seems a little crazy. Yeah.

03:03:22.8] Is there a motion to come out of executive session?

03:03:26.6] There's a motion and a second to come out of executive session. All in favor?

03:03:30.9] Anyone opposed?

03:03:32.7] And the meeting is back in session at 12 noon.

03:03:36.5] Alternate Mayor Pro Tem, we're on EX1.

03:03:38.9] EX1, motion made, second, and carried that the city attorney,

03:03:42.8] in consultation with the city manager, be authorized to file suit

03:03:46.8] against Paddle Ranch Health & Wellness Center and

03:03:50.7] Patricia Alvarez in HQ matter number

03:03:55.0] 5684 to gain compliance with Title 20 of the City

03:03:59.0] Code of El Paso.

03:04:00.2] Second.

03:04:00.9] And to take all steps necessary, including the execution of

03:04:04.8] any required document in order to

03:04:09.9] effectuate this authority. I need a larger font.

03:04:14.2] Thank you.

03:04:14.3] Second.

03:04:18.2] There's a motion made by Alternate Mayor Pro Tem Piedra and read into the record,

03:04:22.2] seconded by Representative Limón, and this is on EX1 to

03:04:25.8] file a lawsuit.

03:04:28.6] On that motion, call for the vote.

03:04:44.6] Alternate Mayor Pro Tem Piedra?

03:04:46.4] Aye.

03:04:46.5] Thank you. End the voting session, and that motion passes

03:04:49.8] unanimously. Representative Acevedo not present.

03:04:53.5] EX2?

03:04:54.6] No action.

03:04:55.3] Thank you. EX3?

03:04:56.7] No action.

03:04:57.4] Thank you. EX4?

03:04:58.7] No action.

03:04:59.4] Thank you.

03:05:00.2] Move to adjourn.

03:05:01.1] Second.

03:05:02.4] There's a motion and a second to adjourn the work session. All in favor?

03:05:05.5] Aye.

03:05:05.6] Aye.

03:05:06.2] Anyone opposed? And the work session for Monday, October 12th,

03:05:10.2] 2026 is adjourned at 12:01 PM. Thank you, Council.