2026-10-12 - City Council Work Session
Summary
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- Council approved unanimously a resolution adopting the El Paso Museum of Art strategic plan "Frontera Forward" for FY 2027 through FY 2031, presented ahead of the museum's 2027 national reaccreditation. Its four goals cover embodying El Paso, expanding frontiers through art, being a destination for all, and strengthening fundraising, the art school and partnerships.
- Members asked about visitor-origin data, art school expansion, fundraising capacity and local artist exhibitions; the museum director described new zip code tracking and coming art school programming.
- A resolution approving the updated Collections Care and Management Policy was moved and seconded. It revises acquisition approval thresholds, the role of the Museums and Cultural Affairs Advisory Board, council approval for larger purchases, provenance requirements and loan authority, and adds an interdepartmental loan form.
- Staff updated council on the roughly $153.4 million of ARPA funds across 49 projects: about 99.4% is spent, about $909,000 is projected unspent, and all funds must be spent by Dec. 31, 2026. Body-worn cameras, a public health program and a small business capital program were the three projects still under 90% spent.
- Staff plan to use the remaining ARPA funds to reimburse eligible general fund expenses, with fire department fleet routers and rugged laptops a priority, and will return Nov. 9 with a spending recommendation and data on business grant outcomes.
- The Animal Shelter Advisory Committee presented its annual report: 11 meetings and six recommendations covering recurring spay/neuter funding, regional coordination, modernized facilities and fleet, shorter shelter stays, balanced Title 7 enforcement with a community safety net, and workforce capacity. Two of its 13 seats are vacant.
- Members noted $122,000 already adopted for low-cost spay/neuter, expected to yield roughly 1,200 additional surgeries, and that additional spay/neuter events are likely but not yet committed.
- A neighborhood association representative asked the city to enforce zoning, permit, noise and lighting rules at a paddle court business and opposed commercial rezoning nearby.
- Council went into executive session on a Title 20 code compliance matter, litigation with the Ysleta del Sur Pueblo, a real estate update and legal advice on a $4 million grant application for the Climate Action Implementation Program. It then voted unanimously to authorize the city attorney to file suit to gain compliance with Title 20 of the City Code; no action was taken on the other three items.
- The recording also carries the regular meeting. Council voted 4-5 against directing staff to analyze a city-initiated rezoning of about 800 Rio Grande neighborhood parcels, with members citing taxpayer cost, outreach timing and sequencing ahead of the comprehensive plan update.
- The Mass Transit Department Board approved its consent agenda and heard a Sun Metro update on the Sept. 20 service changes: two route realignments restoring clinic and senior center access, schedule adjustments on seven routes, some routes moved between in-house and contractor service, and a next service round planned for early spring 2027.
- Council approved the Animal Services and Code Enforcement fee schedule 6-2, then reconsidered 7-1 and approved it again 5-3. The small food establishment inspection fee rises from $174 to $344 and the maximum adoption fee from $110 to $198.
- Council approved 5-3 an amendment to the 2026 Public Art Plan moving $225,000 of savings from the Arts Festival Plaza water wall to four other allocations; members opposed cited a reduced district share and short notice.
- Council unanimously directed the city manager not to enter or renew agreements with Flock Safety or similar providers for fixed networked license plate reader cameras.
- Council unanimously approved an MOU supporting El Paso Water's grant application for the Kay Bailey Hutchison Desalination Center expansion; El Paso Water would cover any required match at no cost to the city.
Agenda
- Museum of Art strategic plan and Collections Care and Management Policy.
- ARPA fiscal recovery fund update.
- Animal Shelter Advisory Committee annual report.
- Executive session.
- Regular meeting items: Rio Grande city-initiated rezoning analysis; Animal Services and Code Enforcement fee schedule; Public Art Plan amendment; Flock Safety license plate reader agreements.
See also 2026-10-13 - City Council and 2026-10-13 - Mass Transit Department Board Meeting.
Sources
- Video: https://vimeo.com/1231035573
- Agenda: https://elpasotexas.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=1452632&GUID=8D247189-61EA-4D3C-BDAB-560741CC51B0
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00:01:15.7] Where's our trash can? Over here.
00:01:39.7] Test, test. Five, four, three, two, one. Test, test.
00:01:43.7] Five, four, three, two, one.
00:04:42.1] Good morning, Ms. Prime.
00:04:44.6] I think we're ready to start the meeting for today.
00:04:48.0] Good morning.
00:04:49.9] This is a work session of the El Paso City Council for Monday, October 12th,
00:04:53.3] 2026. It is 9:01 AM. Mayor
00:04:57.4] Pro Tem Chavez is present and presiding, along with
00:05:01.4] Representative Boya Trejo, Representative Nino, Alternate Mayor Pro Tem Fierro,
00:05:05.9] Representative Limon. Representative Rocha will be joining the meeting
00:05:10.7] a few minutes later.
00:05:13.7] And
00:05:15.3] Representative Acevedo, I don't see him online yet, but he will
00:05:19.3] be joining virtually.
00:05:21.3] Mayor Pro Tem, we have a quorum.
00:05:23.5] Thank you, Ms. Prime.
00:05:25.0] Representative Fierro, can you please lead us in the pledge of allegiance?
00:05:27.4] Thank you, Mayor.
00:05:34.4] Of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it
00:05:38.5] stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with
00:05:42.3] liberty and justice for all.
00:05:49.2] That brings us to item number one on the agenda, and this is discussion and action
00:05:53.0] on a resolution of the City Council of the City of El Paso, Texas, adopting the
00:05:56.9] El Paso Museum of Arts Frontera Forward Bridging Art and Community at
00:06:00.8] the Border Strategic Plan for FY 2027 through FY
00:06:04.8] 2031, providing for implementation and periodic adjustments
00:06:09.1] and providing an effective date. And Representative Acevedo has joined the
00:06:13.0] meeting at 9:02 virtually Good morning, Ben.
00:06:16.6] Good morning. And
00:06:18.5] Mayor Pro Tem, actually items one and two are related, so
00:06:22.7] we probably can take them together.
00:06:24.7] Okay. Item two is discussion and action on a resolution of the city council
00:06:28.9] of the City of El Paso, Texas, approving the collections care and management policy
00:06:32.7] for the City of El Paso Museum collections, providing for purpose and authority,
00:06:36.6] and providing for an effective date of October 12th, 2026.
00:06:42.1] Good morning, and for the record, Ben Fife, managing director.
00:06:46.0] We are very pleased today to be bringing you two items related to
00:06:50.0] our current process towards reaccreditation of the El Paso
00:06:53.9] Museum of Art. The El Paso Museum of Art has been accredited since the
00:06:57.5] 1970s.
00:06:59.5] And as we begin this process and as we briefed you, interestingly
00:07:03.3] enough,
00:07:04.5] one council member asked the question last week, "Do you think we're going to get
00:07:08.5] it this time?" And I said, "Absolutely." We're in a
00:07:12.4] really auspicious place. This process takes
00:07:16.2] place every 10 years. And if you'll allow me, I'd like to give you
00:07:20.1] a couple of facts about where we are since the last time
00:07:24.1] we underwent this process, accolades that let you know,
00:07:28.1] the quality of the work that is happening at the museum, and why we feel we are in
00:07:32.1] very good shape for this process. So first of all, in
00:07:36.3] 2018, the El Paso Museum of Art was awarded the National
00:07:40.3] Medal for Museums. That is a federal award that is traditionally
00:07:44.1] given out at the White House. We also
00:07:47.1] renegotiated and codified what had been a very
00:07:50.8] loose gentleman's agreement of over 25 years
00:07:54.7] with the El Paso Museum of Art Foundation into a
00:07:59.3] formalized council-approved agreement
00:08:03.3] that focuses on clarifying roles, funding
00:08:06.4] expectations, et cetera, to ensure more seamless coordination,
00:08:10.5] stronger governance, and planning.
00:08:13.3] We've completed over $4.25 million
00:08:17.0] in improvements to the facility. Many of those dollars went
00:08:20.8] to infrastructure that is critical to the care of the
00:08:24.6] overall collection, and we want to acknowledge the
00:08:28.3] work of the Capital Improvements Department, as well as
00:08:32.2] Streets and Maintenance, in helping us to accomplish that.
00:08:35.8] Our collection in the last 10 years has grown by almost 10%,
00:08:39.7] with over 634 new works added, and
00:08:43.8] all but 47 of those have actually been donated,
00:08:47.8] showing how staff has carefully cultivated relationships with
00:08:51.7] donors and art collectors. That represents an approximate value
00:08:55.7] of
00:08:56.9] about $2 million worth of work entering the collection, and that
00:09:00.9] does not include the $6 million
00:09:03.9] donation of Star Ceiling.
00:09:06.6] We conserved four old masters at NYU's prestigious
00:09:10.1] conservation lab for free, and that process not
00:09:13.9] only stabilized very fragile works from the Italian Renaissance to
00:09:17.9] ensure that generations of El Pasoans will be able to enjoy them for years to
00:09:21.7] come, it also yielded new insights.
00:09:24.7] So for example,
00:09:26.5] the NYU conservation lab, while doing work, was able to
00:09:30.3] determine that one of our paintings, which originally was part of an
00:09:33.7] altarpiece in
00:09:36.3] Italy in the 1500s, actually has a companion piece
00:09:40.2] from that same altar at the Yale Art Gallery right now.
00:09:44.9] We secured 53 grants over that time, allowing us to
00:09:48.9] amplify our programming without impacting El Paso
00:09:52.1] taxpayers. In the last two years alone, we have
00:09:56.0] held 236 programs for youth and families.
00:10:00.4] We've forged stronger community partnerships with ISDs,
00:10:04.7] UTEP, EPCC, and other partnering organizations.
00:10:08.6] We've established long-term funding relationship with national funders like the
00:10:12.5] Mellon Foundation, Art Bridges America, which is actually the
00:10:16.0] foundation of Alice Walton, the Walmart heir, and the Thoma Foundation.
00:10:20.9] We've undertaken significant work to actually increase accessibility for
00:10:24.8] our programs and our facility at the Museum of Art, particularly for
00:10:28.8] families that have members with developmental or sensory
00:10:32.8] issues. This includes everything from low sensory rooms to
00:10:37.0] low sensory hours at our programs, and even
00:10:40.5] ceramic potting wheels that are designed to be used by wheelchair users.
00:10:45.3] The United States Postal Service debuted the first ever Día de Muertos
00:10:49.0] stamp in the United States at the El Paso Museum of Art in
00:10:52.4] recognition of the quality of the Día de Muertos program
00:10:56.3] that initiated first from the Museum of Art and now is department-wide.
00:11:01.7] The 2024 Border Biennial was featured on the front page of the New York
00:11:05.5] Times Museum section for the last iteration.
00:11:09.5] And lastly, this last fiscal year saw a
00:11:13.0] 26% increase in attendance over the previous year.
00:11:17.0] And I should mention during that year that we increased attendance, we were closed
00:11:20.3] for five months because of infrastructure improvements.
00:11:24.9] All of that happened during a very turbulent period,
00:11:29.1] with the pandemic shutdowns, furloughs.
00:11:33.0] So I just want to acknowledge the hard work of staff, and
00:11:36.6] acknowledge and thank the continued support of the council,
00:11:40.8] and also city leadership like the city manager.
00:11:43.7] With that, I will turn this over to Eddie Hayes, our director of the Museum of
00:11:47.5] Art. I'm going to mention this is his first time presenting at the council, so
00:11:51.3] please be gentle.
00:11:55.8] Thank you, sir.
00:11:57.2] For the record, Edward Hayes, Jr., director of the El Paso Museum of Art, the very
00:12:00.4] proud director of EPMA. I'd like to add, in addition to what's been
00:12:04.3] described here, is that
00:12:06.2] we have been nominated, we have been recognized as the top five
00:12:10.6] museum in the state by editors at Glass Tire
00:12:14.0] just this summer, and we are nestled within the top four
00:12:18.3] downtown arts district in the nation.
00:12:20.7] And that's from a national poll held by USA Today.
00:12:24.0] So, really grateful to have this opportunity to present to you today
00:12:28.0] a five-year plan for the museum, our Frontera Forward strategic
00:12:32.0] plan.
00:12:34.3] And actually, IT, if you can bring up the presentation for item one.
00:12:37.7] I believe this is item two.
00:12:48.4] Thank you very much. So, we're looking at a plan that will cover
00:12:51.9] FY 2027 through FY 2031.
00:12:57.7] It's titled Frontera Forward, after a recent initiative of the museum where we're
00:13:01.4] doubling down on community,
00:13:03.7] using art to better understand our community, our region.
00:13:08.0] This
00:13:09.3] strategic plan is a core document that we need to have ready for
00:13:12.7] reaccreditation in 2027.
00:13:15.3] Again, this will cover the next five years.
00:13:20.6] And this plan also is in alignment with the City of El Paso strategic plan,
00:13:25.6] delivering on quality of life and good governance.
00:13:31.0] The process included listening to staff, the EPMA Foundation,
00:13:35.3] inviting artists, community partners, inviting our caterers, our DJ to
00:13:39.3] come and
00:13:40.8] connect with us. We
00:13:42.7] gathered such incredible feedback, over 225 feedback points
00:13:46.7] overall, that help us arrive at some desired outcomes.
00:13:50.2] And this was thanks to
00:13:52.6] a consultant firm here, Resilient Heritage, who worked with our
00:13:56.4] two
00:13:57.4] city strategic planners from the city strategy office
00:14:01.5] to be able to arrive at our desired outcome.
00:14:04.8] So it was a partnership here with city staff
00:14:09.1] and with a consultant and the museum team.
00:14:15.2] Okay, so there are four goals, and here's the first one.
00:14:17.9] We are looking to become an institution that embodies El Paso, and what does that
00:14:21.8] mean? I hear around town, "Let's be El Paso first." And so this
00:14:25.5] touches that point directly. In creating a place that reflects the
00:14:29.4] beauty and shared love for our city, establishing the museum as a cultural
00:14:33.3] hub of the region,
00:14:35.2] promoting the museum as an anchor of the downtown arts district,
00:14:39.1] and in doing so, aligning our
00:14:41.5] operational hours, promotional activities with other organizations on the block,
00:14:45.2] other businesses
00:14:46.8] in the downtown arts district as well.
00:14:50.5] We're also looking to expand frontiers through art. What does this mean?
00:14:54.0] We're looking to expand the sight lines of the museum, become a regional
00:14:57.9] art museum leader in the Southwest, not just in the region, but more broadly in the
00:15:01.5] Southwest United States. So folks looking to Phoenix for great art,
00:15:05.4] looking to Denver, making sure we're also looking at El Paso as a key
00:15:09.2] leader in the region. We're looking to offer a balanced exhibitions program that we
00:15:13.5] currently have, making sure we continue that going forward, showing our local
00:15:17.1] talent, our emerging artists, as well as well-established and incredible
00:15:21.1] traveling exhibitions. We just hosted Frida Kahlo: Sus Fotos, an
00:15:24.9] exhibition that drew over 30,000 visitors in just three and a half months.
00:15:29.2] We saw that over 30% of those visits were from outside of the region.
00:15:34.5] We're looking to also preserve our cultural heritage, making sure that with the
00:15:37.8] works of art in our collection, which total over 7,000
00:15:42.7] and span from the 13th century to the present, making sure that we are preserving
00:15:46.3] not just El Paso's local cultural heritage, but also world
00:15:50.1] heritage too.
00:15:54.5] We want to make sure that the museum is a destination for all to enjoy, providing a
00:15:58.5] visitor-first experience, really centering our activity, our focus on that
00:16:02.3] visitor, to make sure they come back, make sure they enjoy, make sure they feel
00:16:05.8] welcome. We are already a free museum, so more people need to know about
00:16:09.6] that. And there's always ways for us to improve, and we have
00:16:13.6] a plan to execute that. We want to make sure we embolden
00:16:17.5] fundraising capacity so that we are not just coming to the table at City Hall here
00:16:21.6] for city support.
00:16:23.9] As Ben mentioned, we've received some transformative grants over the past few
00:16:27.1] years, and we look to continue doing that to make sure that we provide
00:16:31.4] awesome traveling exhibitions. We're able to acquire some amazing art, and we're
00:16:35.2] making sure that that visitor experience is very rich, and especially
00:16:39.0] with our art school. So we're making investments, and we plan to make over the next
00:16:42.6] five years, key investments in the art school,
00:16:45.7] to enhance arts education. We're already serving 500 kids
00:16:49.7] and adults over
00:16:51.7] three classrooms, so we're looking to transform that, making sure we
00:16:55.6] serve more individuals, especially as we see a need for arts education in
00:16:59.6] the public schools.
00:17:02.8] And we want to do this together. So juntos adelante.
00:17:05.9] Vamos juntos. We're walking together. We're going to do this.
00:17:08.8] We're going to achieve this strategic plan with community, making sure that we
00:17:12.8] inspire citywide participation.
00:17:14.9] During that closure we had for our HVAC renovation,
00:17:18.1] our team was incredible. They organized over 40 programs across the city,
00:17:22.3] making sure that we got the museum out to different parts of town,
00:17:26.4] and we will continue doing that, and we've learned a lot from that experience, and
00:17:29.5] that is baked into this plan here.
00:17:32.9] We also want to make sure that we invest in the staff that we have.
00:17:35.3] We're not looking to expand the staff.
00:17:36.7] We're looking to develop them, making sure that we get them out to big conferences.
00:17:40.9] We've got a team going out in May to the American Alliance of Museums conference,
00:17:44.5] which is, by the way, the accrediting body that will be looking at our 2027
00:17:48.6] application for reaccreditation.
00:17:50.6] That, by the way,
00:17:52.2] if approved, is good for the next 10 years.
00:17:55.9] And we're looking to also cultivate art collectors.
00:17:57.9] There's a major opportunity in El Paso right now.
00:17:59.7] I've met some awesome individuals who love El Paso artists, who
00:18:03.6] are also collecting nationally.
00:18:08.6] I see an opportunity for us to cultivate that group, making sure that we share
00:18:12.0] knowledge about caring for art with individuals who want to grow their
00:18:15.5] collections. That will have an incredible return in the
00:18:19.4] future, as it has in other cities with collectors who are donating
00:18:23.3] works of art back to that museum that introduced them
00:18:27.2] to this amazing activity, which is not just collecting art, but also
00:18:30.7] developing and helping inspire artists' careers.
00:18:35.9] So that is the
00:18:37.7] last goal here of the strategic plan.
00:18:42.1] Thank you, Edgar. Thank you so much for the presentation. Thank you, Ben.
00:18:45.8] We do have a few questions. Representative Limón.
00:18:51.9] Good morning. Thank you. Thank you, Eddie. It wasn't so bad after all, huh?
00:18:56.5] I know we met last week, and you were quite nervous about this.
00:19:00.2] I really want to thank you for all the work that you're doing.
00:19:03.4] I especially like all the work that's been done around the museum.
00:19:07.7] I think it's coming to a point where it's all going to be finished up, and that is
00:19:11.5] such an attractive area because the museum really goes
00:19:15.2] out into the open space. It isn't just locked into that
00:19:19.2] building. And so thank you for the presentation. Really appreciate it.
00:19:23.0] Thank you for your comments.
00:19:23.3] You're doing a good job, Eddie.
00:19:24.7] I appreciate it.
00:19:27.4] Representative Nino.
00:19:28.8] Thank you, Eddie and Ben, for the great presentation as well.
00:19:32.3] I know that during my briefing, I asked in regards of how many Far East or District
00:19:36.0] 5 residents visit the museum, and I'm grateful for the data that you all
00:19:39.7] provided. Would you be able to share a little bit more about the 30% of visitors
00:19:43.4] that came outside of El Paso, where they came to visit from?
00:19:47.1] That's a great question. We saw zip codes coming from all over Mexico.
00:19:51.8] We saw visits outside of the state, multiple states.
00:19:56.5] We know there were international travelers, especially as we had the opening of
00:20:01.5] BTS, a huge BTS concert.
00:20:04.3] And so what we're seeing is visitation at the museum that
00:20:08.3] is
00:20:09.8] related to all the other exciting things happening in the downtown area, folks
00:20:13.6] coming to see concerts, folks coming to
00:20:16.9] the festivals. We haven't seen yet with our new zip code
00:20:20.7] capturing system, we have a QR code at the front entrance, and we're asking
00:20:23.9] visitors to scan,
00:20:25.8] and let us know how many folks are in their party, what zip code they're coming
00:20:28.8] from. We just started collecting this data in February-
00:20:33.3] Okay
00:20:33.4] ... with the opening of Frida Kahlo.
00:20:34.9] So, we will see what this data looks like throughout festival season, and I'm
00:20:38.6] really excited to see those numbers and share those with you once
00:20:42.9] we see a full breakdown of what that looks like.
00:20:45.2] No, that's good. Even whenever there's, like you mentioned, BTS concert, right?
00:20:48.3] If there's any future concerts that come into the region, just to get that data
00:20:51.8] will be good, so that we could highlight our investments more when it comes to the
00:20:55.5] museums and the art support. But thank you for the great presentation.
00:20:59.4] Thank you.
00:20:59.9] Thank you, sir. We will capture that, absolutely.
00:21:01.2] Thank you.
00:21:03.0] Representative Canales.
00:21:06.7] Thank you.
00:21:07.9] Yeah, good job, Eddie. Thanks. It seems like it was a really robust public
00:21:11.7] process that went into this as well, so I appreciate seeing that.
00:21:16.0] I think our strategic planning should always be driven by community input.
00:21:19.8] And I
00:21:20.9] think that's especially the case for something like
00:21:23.7] a museum where
00:21:26.6] it really is the people's museum, and the arts community in El
00:21:30.4] Paso is so invested in the success of
00:21:32.9] the Museum of Art. And so,
00:21:35.5] kudos to you all for going through the process in that way.
00:21:38.3] I think it makes a lot of sense.
00:21:42.2] I do have just a technical question, which is that this was posted as a
00:21:47.3] support for a resolution. There's not a resolution in the backup, and I
00:21:51.3] understand you need a resolution as part of your
00:21:55.2] accreditation process.
00:21:58.3] Is
00:22:00.2] the expectation that the council approves a resolution?
00:22:03.9] There should be a
00:22:04.2] resolution.
00:22:08.2] It's in the backup.
00:22:08.2] Is there? Let me see.
00:22:11.4] We're checking on that sir.
00:22:12.2] Oh, there is. I apologize. I didn't scroll far enough.
00:22:16.7] God.
00:22:19.6] Okay.
00:22:19.7] Keeping you honest, Ben.
00:22:21.5] It might be another 10 years from now, Chris.
00:22:25.4] Mayor Pro Tem, I understand. I don't think there's been a motion yet.
00:22:29.8] No.
00:22:30.2] Move to approve the resolution.
00:22:32.2] Second.
00:22:33.8] Second.
00:22:36.2] And that's all. Thank you.
00:22:38.7] Sorry for the scare.
00:22:42.5] All right. And if IT-
00:22:43.2] Rep-
00:22:43.3] ... can bring up... Oh.
00:22:45.8] Representative Trejo.
00:22:46.8] Sorry.
00:22:47.9] Thank you.
00:22:48.7] Thank you.
00:22:50.8] Thank you for the presentation, Eddie. Good job.
00:22:52.8] Thank you very much.
00:22:53.2] A couple of questions. On page seven of the
00:22:56.9] PowerPoint,
00:22:58.7] and you mention here expand art school to enhance arts education.
00:23:02.1] What are some of those
00:23:04.1] things that will be taking place for that?
00:23:06.6] Well, I'm happy to share that we are already expanding
00:23:09.5] the number of classes we're going to offer.
00:23:11.9] We have a larger number of teaching artists this year.
00:23:16.1] So in the short term, we're going to see more
00:23:19.6] classes, making sure we take advantage of all the different breaks that students in
00:23:23.3] El Paso have, all the intersessions, the fall breaks.
00:23:26.7] So we're already working to expand on that front.
00:23:30.0] We're also looking at
00:23:32.8] working with the El Paso Museum of Art Foundation to raise funds for
00:23:36.8] some transformations to the classrooms themselves,
00:23:41.4] to be able to
00:23:43.1] have a larger ceramic studio, which is one of our most popular offerings
00:23:47.4] at the museum. There's a waiting list every time.
00:23:50.5] These classes are fully booked. Sometimes we don't even post the classes online
00:23:53.6] because they fill up before we can even share that they're even open.
00:23:57.8] So, we're looking to raise funds for
00:24:01.1] changing the format of some of those classrooms.
00:24:04.1] And then, of course, we have everything in place, all the mechanisms to be able to
00:24:07.8] continue securing more teaching artists, which are essential to run the program.
00:24:12.4] And also, we're allocating additional security as
00:24:16.2] well to be able to provide classes at different hours.
00:24:19.4] We're seeing requests for more after-hours
00:24:22.6] offerings. At the moment, all of our offerings are in the daytime.
00:24:26.5] So we
00:24:28.0] are phasing this activity to make sure that we can provide an immediate need
00:24:32.7] to the excitement for art school. But we're also looking at a longer-term
00:24:36.5] plan, working with the foundation to secure some
00:24:39.4] significant funds for some physical, I don't want to say
00:24:43.2] capital, but for some physical transformations in that space.
00:24:46.4] And we're working with our
00:24:48.0] city offices, of course, at Capital Improvement.
00:24:50.7] Our city architect as well is aware of what we're looking to do there.
00:24:54.5] as we plan this out.
00:24:55.9] Very good. As far as the fundraising capacity, what does that
00:24:59.8] look like as far as strengthening that?
00:25:02.5] Well, I'll share right now that there's a $500,000 naming opportunity for the art
00:25:06.0] school. So that is available right now, and at the
00:25:09.7] moment, we have El Paso Giving Day happening right now.
00:25:12.6] So if you're tuning in, please go support the El Paso Museum of Art.
00:25:16.1] You can give towards arts education there, and we're building out a
00:25:19.7] formal
00:25:21.6] development plan for that art school
00:25:25.4] development project. It is significant.
00:25:30.9] I don't want to list any specific numbers because we do not have them yet, but it
00:25:34.3] could be
00:25:36.7] over one or two million dollars of a transformation there at the art school.
00:25:40.7] Yeah.
00:25:41.6] If I may, ma'am.
00:25:43.3] So that actual fundraising capacity as well, one thing I will say is that the
00:25:46.6] consultant who helped with the strategic plan is also doing
00:25:50.4] a fundraising strategy plan for our art
00:25:54.4] museum foundation to be able to help them understand how they can
00:25:58.0] better work with our local funders and how
00:26:01.9] they can be a little more streamlined in their processes.
00:26:05.4] So that's something we're looking at as well.
00:26:07.9] I think we're also thinking about the fact that the last couple of years we've had,
00:26:11.8] as I mentioned, a couple of national funders that have come to the
00:26:15.6] table and are actually repeating their giving
00:26:19.5] over and over again. We feel that that's a really great sign, and we want to be
00:26:23.2] able to also look at other funders that we might not have tapped into
00:26:27.1] nationally as we think about the fact that El Paso has a very shallow
00:26:30.8] philanthropic pool.
00:26:32.8] We don't want to just keep going to the same people here over and over again.
00:26:36.2] We also want to bring new money into the community.
00:26:38.8] That's great. And thank you for bringing those additional programs that include
00:26:42.6] sensory. That's very important to everyone.
00:26:46.0] Thank you again for the presentation.
00:26:49.2] Thank you for your questions.
00:26:51.7] Thank you, Eddie, once again. I know that Ben mentioned Italian Renaissance, and
00:26:55.5] you mentioned Frida Kahlo, but I did want to give you the opportunity to
00:26:59.5] talk about other artists that also have had exhibits there,
00:27:03.1] including one that I had the privilege of attending back in May, Minds of All
00:27:06.4] Kinds. Could you talk a little bit about how you bring local artists
00:27:10.1] also into the museum?
00:27:11.7] Yes. Thank you so much for participating and for seeing the work.
00:27:14.3] I appreciate that.
00:27:16.1] Yes, we have an opportunity to show the work of
00:27:20.0] our local artists, of local community organizations.
00:27:25.8] There's an opportunity, even though we have the next three years planned out for
00:27:29.3] the museum in terms of our exhibitions, we have opportunities to
00:27:33.1] carve out moments where we
00:27:35.8] have our artist incubator program.
00:27:37.3] Artists from that city-funded program have an exhibition in our Museum
00:27:41.1] Connect Lab. We currently have the work of Blast.
00:27:43.7] He's an incredible street artist, and you have to see his paintings at the museum.
00:27:46.7] They're on view right now through January.
00:27:48.9] We have mural opportunities. We had a beautiful mural by
00:27:52.7] Mariana Olague on view with us, one of the first Frontera Ford mural
00:27:56.4] commissions, where she painted memories of her Segundo Barrio neighborhood growing
00:28:00.3] up.
00:28:01.5] We had representations of the Ruben Salazar apartments there in this beautiful
00:28:04.5] mural. We now have another lobby installation by Julia Barelo.
00:28:07.8] She's an artist based in Las Cruces.
00:28:11.4] Again, another region that we cover, that we consider home here.
00:28:15.2] And
00:28:18.0] the team does an incredible job of integrating artists into our workshops.
00:28:22.9] We have professional artists. We have Kristen Apodaca, who
00:28:26.8] created a mural for Chalk the Block last year.
00:28:29.0] You can see that mural on the side of the building that faces La Nube.
00:28:32.6] And in fact,
00:28:33.8] the best view of that mural is from La Nube.
00:28:35.6] So go to La Nube and look across the street and see that incredible painting.
00:28:39.7] So it's through mural commissions, through small exhibitions, also larger group
00:28:43.6] shows, and larger investments in our artists that we're able to celebrate our
00:28:47.4] local talent. So please, thank you so much for noticing that, and we
00:28:51.4] really need everyone's support to come out, see their shows,
00:28:55.5] to support them, "para apoyarlos," making sure that they continue to thrive in
00:28:59.7] our very rich cultural region, which is going through an
00:29:03.4] incredible renaissance right now in downtown El Paso.
00:29:06.8] Thank you. I completely agree.
00:29:09.6] I don't think we have any other questions.
00:29:12.5] We have a motion and a second, Ms. Praim?
00:29:14.5] Yes. This is for item number one, correct?
00:29:18.7] Okay. The motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by Representative
00:29:22.4] Boya-Trejo, and this is to approve the resolution on item one.
00:29:26.3] On that motion, call for the vote.
00:29:31.1] Representative Acevedo?
00:29:33.5] Aye.
00:29:34.0] Thank you. End the voting session.
00:29:36.9] And that motion passes unanimously.
00:29:39.4] And for the record, Representatives Canales and Rocha joined the meeting at
00:29:43.2] 9:06 and 9:07 respectively, and Mayor Johnson requested to be
00:29:47.0] excused from today's meeting.
00:29:50.7] All right. If IT can bring up the presentation for item two, please.
00:29:58.1] Thank you. And this presentation is a little more technical, so please bear with
00:30:00.8] me. We are presenting here adjustments, updates to the
00:30:04.4] collections care and management policy,
00:30:07.0] another key document, core document that needs to be filed with the
00:30:10.3] American Alliance of Museums, the accrediting
00:30:13.8] body of this museum. By the way, the other core
00:30:17.8] documents are the strategic plan that, thank you, was just approved, and prior to
00:30:21.6] that, the code of ethics, which council approved as well in the summer.
00:30:26.6] This collections care and management policy is critical.
00:30:30.6] This aligns all of our internal work here with
00:30:34.7] the accrediting body's recommendations.
00:30:37.1] The last policy came before city council in 2017 and was
00:30:40.6] approved. So these updates here reflect changes to
00:30:45.1] larger museum policy across the world, in addition to
00:30:49.2] creating some mechanisms in place here that align our practices
00:30:52.7] with our city purchasing requirements.
00:30:55.6] So I'll go through those here.
00:30:58.2] The first is
00:31:01.0] on the financial side, making sure that any purchase over $3,500
00:31:05.0] is approved by our deputy city manager for quality of life or a similar
00:31:09.1] office
00:31:10.4] overseeing MCAD.
00:31:12.3] Second here is that
00:31:15.3] any acquisition is
00:31:17.9] vetted by the Museums and Cultural Affairs Advisory Board, our
00:31:22.0] MCAAB board.
00:31:23.8] And thirdly here, that any purchases over $50,000 come to city
00:31:27.5] council. So come before your eyes before we make
00:31:31.1] that final purchase there.
00:31:34.3] And these are items that just were not articulated in the prior plan and the prior
00:31:37.4] policy.
00:31:41.4] We have updated language here to our scope of collections.
00:31:44.0] As I mentioned, we have over 7,000 works from the 13th century to the present.
00:31:49.0] We cover so much of the world here, at least in this hemisphere,
00:31:52.9] Latin America,
00:31:54.7] art from Mexico.
00:31:57.4] What's key here is our retablo collection.
00:31:59.8] We have the second largest collection of retablos in the nation,
00:32:03.8] and that's something we're going to celebrate, and we're adding here to this
00:32:06.4] language.
00:32:07.9] Retablos, these are devotional paintings from northern Mexico.
00:32:12.2] They're found in the home, and we have an incredible collection of them, as
00:32:16.2] well as our ex votos
00:32:18.3] as well. So, we have early West Texas art, contemporary art, works
00:32:22.3] on paper. Again, this language is adjusted, modified to
00:32:26.1] help better characterize the collection as it stands today,
00:32:30.1] since 2016.
00:32:33.6] Okay. This is much more technical here.
00:32:36.0] We have updates to the policy that acknowledge public laws
00:32:40.0] governing art,
00:32:42.1] including the Native American Graves Protection and Holocaust Appropriated
00:32:46.3] Art Recovery Act.
00:32:48.3] This here, as you see, there's one adjustment to public law number
00:32:52.6] 119-82 made in 2026. That's fairly
00:32:56.1] recent. And so the previous policy did
00:33:00.0] not, of course, include that update there.
00:33:03.6] We're making sure that any art that is donated, that is purchased by
00:33:07.6] the museum,
00:33:08.9] is coming in clean, and that we're not acquiring works that are fake, that
00:33:13.0] are inauthentic. The works have to be authentic, free of any liens or
00:33:16.5] encumbrances.
00:33:18.3] They need to be exported legally from their country of origin, and they need to be
00:33:21.3] imported
00:33:23.3] into the United States legally as well.
00:33:26.9] And so we seek this provenance documentation, these
00:33:30.8] receipts, essentially, for works of art, before we consider
00:33:34.5] making these acquisitions.
00:33:38.0] Okay. There's also an update here to our outgoing loan
00:33:41.9] authority here. This allows our managing director of quality of life to
00:33:46.6] sign off on loans that are made. We need three months in
00:33:50.2] advance, so we're making sure that time is articulated, so that we have an
00:33:54.1] opportunity to check the object, make sure it's safe to travel, safe to leave
00:33:58.0] the museum.
00:34:00.1] Again, so this is an update to the loan request
00:34:03.5] authority.
00:34:08.1] Okay. And this is what I'm most excited about.
00:34:11.4] This is a new form here that's going to allow us to borrow more freely in
00:34:15.2] between the collections that the
00:34:18.4] city already has. We borrow every now and then from the El Paso Museum of History.
00:34:22.9] We'll be able to borrow more fluidly from the El Paso Museum of
00:34:26.3] History and Archaeology, and maybe even the MAC.
00:34:29.6] They have incredible art in their lobbies now, and this new form allows us.
00:34:33.6] It's an interdepartmental loan form.
00:34:36.2] And as it was described to me by our managing director,
00:34:40.0] he would often sign the loan request
00:34:44.0] and sign off as the receiving body as well,
00:34:47.7] so both the borrower
00:34:50.5] and
00:34:52.6] the lender. And so that's a very circular
00:34:56.2] motion right there. This interdepartmental loan form really cleans
00:35:00.1] that up and allows us to borrow more fluidly.
00:35:02.2] Our museums take fantastic care of our collections.
00:35:05.1] I trust what's going to archaeology, what's going to history, will be cared for in
00:35:09.2] a professional manner.
00:35:14.0] And thank you. That is all for the collections care updates.
00:35:19.6] Thank you. Representative Canales.
00:35:24.8] Thank you.
00:35:26.9] Good job again, Eddie. I move to approve. Thank you.
00:35:29.1] Second.
00:35:32.4] We have a motion and a second. I don't think we have any other discussion,
00:35:36.5] but I do want to thank you both for the presentation and for the wonderful work
00:35:39.7] you're doing in promoting the arts in our city.
00:35:43.7] Ms. Prime? Yes, the motion was made by Representative Canales, seconded by
00:35:47.2] Representative Limón, and this is to approve the resolution on item two.
00:35:50.9] On that motion, call for the vote.
00:35:56.9] Representative Acevedo?
00:35:59.4] Aye.
00:36:00.2] Thank you. End the voting session.
00:36:02.6] And that motion passes unanimously.
00:36:04.9] Thank you.
00:36:05.5] Good job.
00:36:06.3] Thank you all for your support. Thank you.
00:36:08.2] That brings us to item number three, and this is presentation, discussion, and
00:36:11.3] action on the American Rescue Plan Act, ARPA, Coronavirus State and
00:36:15.2] Local Fiscal Recovery Fund.
00:36:24.5] Good morning.
00:36:25.7] Good morning.
00:36:26.4] Welcome.
00:36:27.9] Thank you.
00:36:31.2] Good morning.
00:36:33.6] I'm Elder Ruiz Hefner with the Office of the Comptroller Grants Administration
00:36:37.5] Division.
00:36:39.5] This presentation will have two parts.
00:36:42.9] Sasha Andonoski, the director of
00:36:46.5] the Office of Management and Budget, will continue the second part.
00:36:56.1] So I want to start off by letting you know there is no council
00:36:59.6] action that we are requesting at this time.
00:37:03.2] Today, we are providing a summary update of the ARPA
00:37:06.8] Coronavirus state and local fiscal recovery funds.
00:37:10.8] We will be discussing the monitoring of the remaining balances,
00:37:15.3] provide a brief summary of funds and projects, the completion
00:37:19.1] of eligible spending, and next steps.
00:37:25.0] As you may recall, the city received a little more than
00:37:28.5] $154 million
00:37:30.9] from the ARPA CSLFRFs to support the
00:37:34.4] continuation of the pandemic response, continue assisting
00:37:38.4] families, continue the essential public services,
00:37:43.0] and invest that promote long-term growth in our
00:37:46.8] community.
00:37:48.8] The one-time federal funding came with some restrictions, as they all do.
00:37:53.4] One of them being that the funds must be spent on or before December
00:37:57.4] 31st of 2026.
00:38:03.1] As part of our final spending year, we have been monitoring the
00:38:06.8] balance, reviewing eligibility of expenditures,
00:38:10.6] and preparing for the final federal closeout of this grant.
00:38:17.8] The CFO, OTC, and OMB hold weekly spending
00:38:21.7] update meetings to review balances, project
00:38:25.0] completion, and expected invoicing and payments.
00:38:28.9] We follow up with the departments on any delays with vendors,
00:38:32.8] contractors,
00:38:35.1] partners, and sub-recipients. We ensure that leadership
00:38:39.0] is aware of any potential issues that may come up.
00:38:44.8] As part of the grant requirements, we have quarterly project and
00:38:48.2] expenditure reports, an annual recovery plan report,
00:38:52.8] and the final closeout report.
00:38:55.3] And these reports are visible there at the
00:38:59.0] link.
00:39:02.1] And with that, I'll turn it over to Sasha to continue.
00:39:10.9] Good morning, Mayor and Council. Sasha Donoski, Office of Management and Budget.
00:39:15.1] So as Elda mentioned, we received
00:39:17.2] $153.4 million.
00:39:21.0] So we
00:39:22.4] allocated this huge money in three big main buckets.
00:39:26.4] So first bucket or 74% was allocated
00:39:30.2] to public health and safety, which is
00:39:32.7] $114 million.
00:39:36.1] Then we allocated 17% to community response and recovery,
00:39:39.9] $26.4 million, and then 9% or $14 million
00:39:43.8] to economic response and recovery.
00:39:49.8] So as a percentage, so we allocated total
00:39:53.8] of 49 projects across all the departments.
00:39:57.2] Up to date,
00:39:58.6] 46 of the projects were almost 100%
00:40:02.9] or almost
00:40:04.3] fully expended. We still have three projects or
00:40:08.3] less than 90% that will need to be expended in the
00:40:12.1] next couple of months.
00:40:17.9] In terms of the percentage from the total amount, as you can see,
00:40:21.5] $99.4 million or
00:40:24.1] $153.4 million has been already
00:40:27.5] expended,
00:40:29.2] which means that in little bit over five years, we expended
00:40:33.3] 99.4% of the whole amount of the money.
00:40:36.7] As you know,
00:40:38.1] we focused on just putting out one-time
00:40:42.2] projects. So we didn't focus on the projects that
00:40:46.3] will be recurring and will
00:40:49.1] have continued obligations for the city.
00:40:52.0] So
00:40:52.3] $909,000 or
00:40:56.5] 0.6%,
00:40:58.8] at this point, we are projecting to be unspent, but we have a good plan for
00:41:02.6] that.
00:41:04.9] So as we go by the main bucket, from $114 million,
00:41:09.4] as you can see from that public health and safety, only
00:41:12.7] 0.1% we are projecting to be
00:41:16.2] unspent
00:41:17.7] or
00:41:18.5] $173,000.
00:41:25.1] From the community response and recovery,
00:41:29.1] we already expend whole amount.
00:41:34.0] And from economic response and recovery from $14 million,
00:41:37.5] we are projecting 5% not to be spent at
00:41:41.3] this point.
00:41:45.3] So for the next steps, so during this month,
00:41:49.2] we are going to continue
00:41:53.1] monitoring the balances, and then we are going to see the
00:41:58.6] payment schedules that are upcoming, and then we will come in front
00:42:02.6] of you with additional recommendations.
00:42:05.8] In November, we are planning to have another presentation.
00:42:09.7] We are targeting November 9th for the next presentation
00:42:13.7] where we will come with a recommendation how to spend
00:42:17.7] that $909,000.
00:42:20.5] Hopefully, it will be less than $909,000 at that point.
00:42:24.6] In December, we will
00:42:26.7] complete all eligible work and payments, and we will confirm
00:42:30.4] any amounts that we will require return.
00:42:33.4] As I mentioned, we are not going to return any amounts.
00:42:36.9] And then
00:42:38.6] finally, we will reconcile the next fiscal year from January to
00:42:42.3] April. We are going to reconcile all the final reports, and then we
00:42:46.4] will submit the closeout report to the federal government.
00:42:52.6] So as a recommendation, when we come back on November 9th,
00:42:57.3] we are couple of
00:42:59.9] pressing
00:43:01.9] needs.
00:43:03.1] One of the needs is
00:43:05.1] routers or Accredo points for, and tough books for the fire departments.
00:43:09.6] These are routers that connect
00:43:12.9] ... internet connection that give internet connection to the fire
00:43:16.7] department fleet.
00:43:18.9] As of this point, 50% of these fleet routers are at the end
00:43:22.8] of its useful life. So we are
00:43:26.6] going to create room in the general
00:43:30.3] fund
00:43:31.6] by
00:43:32.7] increasing our eligible expenditures for the ARPA fund.
00:43:37.6] And with that,
00:43:40.5] we are open to any questions that you guys have.
00:43:43.4] Thank you, Sasha, for the presentation. We do have some questions.
00:43:46.1] Representative Trejo.
00:43:49.2] Thank you.
00:43:51.5] Thank you, Sasha. On
00:43:54.5] slide eight, you mentioned there's three projects left.
00:43:57.3] What are those three projects?
00:44:03.7] So these three projects are, as I mentioned, it will be
00:44:07.7] on slide 10.
00:44:09.4] So we have some leftover from body-worn cameras.
00:44:14.9] We already paid the invoice to the vendor,
00:44:18.8] and so we have a payroll that is coming out
00:44:22.7] from that project. We are estimating around the
00:44:26.6] middle of November to cut off the payroll, and then we are estimating that we will
00:44:30.3] have some savings there, $140,000.
00:44:33.8] What's the project?
00:44:35.7] So the project is the
00:44:38.4] actual body-worn camera. So the actual-
00:44:40.8] The camera
00:44:41.1] ... payment for that. Yes.
00:44:42.1] Okay.
00:44:42.3] But we have some payroll that is coming also from that
00:44:46.2] allocation.
00:44:47.2] So then-
00:44:47.4] Representative Trejo, you might recall that we moved the whole body-worn camera
00:44:50.7] program, along with the staffing, over to general fund.
00:44:53.8] And so this is the remainder of the last couple of charges that would go to
00:44:58.2] this grant, and the rest of it would be ongoing within a general fund for
00:45:02.0] next year moving forward.
00:45:03.5] So you have the worn camera, but what are the three projects?
00:45:06.4] They're all three projects for the worn camera?
00:45:08.5] So there's actually-
00:45:10.7] One of the projects is that body-worn cameras
00:45:13.2] ... body-worn cameras, a public health program, and I think the third one is the
00:45:17.2] economic development program.
00:45:20.1] Yes. So that's the-
00:45:20.9] And there's two programs within that economic development program.
00:45:23.8] One is the BOSS and the other was-
00:45:28.6] The access to capital for small businesses
00:45:30.5] ... the access to capital for small businesses.
00:45:30.9] Yes.
00:45:32.1] And so for the BOSS funding, we were able to utilize another
00:45:36.4] series of funding to be able to get that done.
00:45:38.7] And for the BOSS funding, I believe we're utilizing
00:45:42.5] another source of funding. Did we already bring that to council?
00:45:46.2] Airport.
00:45:46.7] Airport. It's coming.
00:45:50.1] Okay.
00:45:54.8] And you're coming back on the 9th with the recommendations?
00:45:58.0] Yes. We don't want to come with recommendations right now because we want
00:46:03.3] to monitor the program and see where we
00:46:07.0] stand
00:46:08.3] around the end of October. And
00:46:11.3] at that point, we are going to come in front of you with recommendation.
00:46:15.4] Okay. All right. Thank you.
00:46:18.8] Representative Limón.
00:46:21.2] Thank you. Sasha, were any buildings purchased with any
00:46:25.2] of this money?
00:46:28.2] Yes.
00:46:29.4] How many?
00:46:31.0] Do you have that information?
00:46:32.2] I don't have that information.
00:46:35.8] I guess my question is how many, and are they being
00:46:39.5] used, and for what? And then what happens after the funding is gone,
00:46:43.6] then the maintenance and
00:46:46.0] operation that will come under general fund?
00:46:49.5] So all the buildings that we purchased with ARPA money are already paid
00:46:53.3] off.
00:46:55.1] And all the recurring maintenance is already in the budget.
00:47:00.0] If we have recurring maintenance for these buildings, yes, it is included
00:47:03.9] in the budget.
00:47:04.8] Okay. And my question is how many, and what are they being used
00:47:08.6] for?
00:47:10.0] Maybe Robert
00:47:11.6] or Elda.
00:47:13.2] So it is for the health department.
00:47:14.6] This was for the MCA clinic and the relocation of
00:47:18.6] the health department itself.
00:47:21.2] So the other ones were CARES, ma'am.
00:47:23.2] So you might recall we did, I believe it was three or four, I'm guessing.
00:47:26.4] I think it was four.
00:47:28.3] That was with the CARES funding. Some of those are still being used for clinics,
00:47:32.0] but they all are within our city inventory.
00:47:35.6] One actually is going to be the new home for the BOSS.
00:47:39.3] We also had the location across the street that I think was used for
00:47:43.0] epidemiology for a bit. We have several departments who are
00:47:46.9] utilizing that space, and I think the other two clinics are still clinics.
00:47:50.5] Mm-hmm.
00:47:50.8] And then the second round of money was the health department
00:47:54.2] relocation, and then a new clinic that we have.
00:47:56.6] Very good.
00:47:56.9] And the Moorhead building that was purchased with those funds.
00:48:00.4] Okay.
00:48:00.7] The school.
00:48:01.6] The Moorhead building,
00:48:03.7] was the Moorhead building originally...
00:48:07.8] It was expected to be for the animal services, half, and the other was
00:48:11.7] for
00:48:12.9] migrant. Is that correct, or am I-
00:48:15.3] So
00:48:16.9] it's for emergency services. I don't know that I have-
00:48:19.2] Emergency services.
00:48:19.6] Oh, okay.
00:48:20.7] Emergency services.
00:48:21.7] Chief Killings will come. Yep.
00:48:31.3] Good morning. Chief Killings, El Paso Fire Department.
00:48:33.4] So the Moorhead building,
00:48:35.3] portion of that building is under the control of animal services.
00:48:38.6] The other portion is under the Office of Emergency Management for backup
00:48:43.1] for the EOC and also for migrant
00:48:46.1] sheltering or any other sheltering in coordination with the Red Cross.
00:48:50.9] Okay.
00:48:52.3] Were there any
00:48:56.4] thoughts of expanding the animal service use to the entire
00:49:00.4] building, or is it limited for any particular
00:49:04.1] reason?
00:49:05.9] So the conversation that we originally had regarding animal services
00:49:09.7] was we,
00:49:11.8] get the year, the CO, we issued a CO in
00:49:15.3] 2018, '19. We were having a conversation about some expansions
00:49:19.2] of animal services. Initially, that was supposed to be at the initial site.
00:49:23.7] We took those additional dollars, added a few dollars to that to be able to get the
00:49:27.4] portion that they have.
00:49:29.5] All the dollars that were allocated to be able to do that work were utilized for
00:49:33.4] that project, and I believe there was also a couple of vehicles
00:49:37.9] that we purchased also with those dollars.
00:49:40.5] And so if council
00:49:42.4] wanted to do anything different, we would need to do the design and
00:49:46.1] actually go through some funding process for that.
00:49:48.8] Those were primarily through COs, and so I think as we're talking about
00:49:52.8] a larger bond, there would be opportunities for expansion.
00:49:56.6] What would be important to note, though, is with all of these,
00:50:00.2] it requires a lot more people. When we opened Morehead, that was around $4 million
00:50:04.5] more just for the people we have. And if we're talking about adding
00:50:08.7] surgical suites and all those things, we need to be very mindful of the O&M costs
00:50:12.7] that are going to be associated with those moving forward.
00:50:15.7] And I guess I'm just concerned
00:50:19.2] how we have two sites.
00:50:21.9] What would it look like to combine animal services into
00:50:26.0] one facility, one building? I know I took a
00:50:29.5] tour of animal services, and they're kind of
00:50:33.3] limited in some areas. And then we've got the other site
00:50:37.6] in District VII that is
00:50:40.4] really not
00:50:42.1] being used a lot, and that used to be a public facility for the
00:50:45.5] community that was turned into an animal services place again.
00:50:50.0] So I'm just wondering, at some point in time, Dion, maybe
00:50:53.9] talking or looking at the possibility of putting everything
00:50:57.8] into that one building that has the ability.
00:51:02.6] If we're looking at migrant services or emergency services,
00:51:06.9] perhaps that could be done in District VII.
00:51:09.8] I'd just be open to a possible conversation on that at a
00:51:13.6] later date.
00:51:16.0] I think we'll have an opportunity to talk about the overall strategy regarding
00:51:19.6] animal services. I think we also are looking at the county bring on their
00:51:23.4] facility in the next couple of years, and so I think that that will also shift
00:51:27.7] some of what we utilize. I do know from staff's perspective,
00:51:31.6] allowing for us to have multiple facilities that people can get
00:51:35.6] to on different sides of town have been very advantageous to us.
00:51:39.3] And so I do think it's worthwhile for council to sort of understand what those
00:51:42.4] costs and expenses are. I have seen some very beautiful,
00:51:46.4] very expensive facilities in other cities, and I think we would just have to
00:51:50.4] figure out whether that is the highest priority and best use of funds for the
00:51:53.7] department at this time.
00:51:55.1] Okay. Thank you.
00:51:58.1] Representative Nino.
00:52:00.2] Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.
00:52:03.3] Super quick question.
00:52:07.0] In regards to the $909,000 that are still available that are unspent,
00:52:11.8] if you can help me understand, slide number 14, it says, "Available ARPA funds will
00:52:15.7] reimburse eligible expenses paid out of the general fund, creating capacity to
00:52:19.3] fund," and it has a list of,
00:52:21.4] I believe, projects. Are those the recommendations, essentially, of the
00:52:25.3] $909,000? Is that what I'm understanding?
00:52:27.9] Yes.
00:52:28.1] Yes.
00:52:28.7] Okay.
00:52:29.2] During the budget process, you might recall that we talked about, and we want to
00:52:32.9] verify the number, but it's a $1.6 million need that
00:52:36.8] Fire brought forth during the budget process for this critical piece of
00:52:40.4] equipment, and we couldn't put it in the budget at all.
00:52:43.4] And so we're looking at, even if it's not enough money,
00:52:47.1] to set that aside. So it definitely would help us during the next budget process to
00:52:51.2] be able to pay for that asset. From our perspective, as you know,
00:52:55.1] that we've been talking about
00:52:57.2] needing to find other sources of revenue for much of our pay
00:53:01.2] goal for next year, and so this is one of the things that I think should be a
00:53:04.8] cash
00:53:07.3] purchase, and then we would come back for others.
00:53:10.2] And so we have to obligate the funds as we're closing out this grant,
00:53:14.2] and so the action would be, one, to allow you all to have a discussion about
00:53:17.9] whether you think this is the highest and best use.
00:53:20.2] We wanted to give you a few weeks to be able to do that, but we want to come back
00:53:23.1] on the 9th, so as the team is starting to close out the grant, everything is in its
00:53:27.1] proper category. So there is allowance within the
00:53:31.0] grant documents to allow for us to be able to utilize the funds in this way.
00:53:35.4] We didn't charge any indirect or any of our administrative costs to it, so we would
00:53:39.3] want to use those dollars to be able to offset some of our taxes or
00:53:43.2] potential debt for the upcoming fiscal year.
00:53:45.6] Thank you for that clarification.
00:53:47.2] So we have approximately $909,000.
00:53:50.5] The replacement of the fleets and the rotters,
00:53:52.9] tough books for fire department. What was the total cost to replace that?
00:53:55.8] You had mentioned, is it one-
00:53:56.9] It was 1.6, but it also has a contract that's existing, so it was
00:54:01.0] one of the things that we looked at.
00:54:02.2] We didn't want to bring you an item that had another cost and expense
00:54:06.1] that was associated with it. And so we're going to see where those other
00:54:09.9] dollars sort of land with the spending and the drawdown, and I'm hoping that it's a
00:54:13.8] little bit higher and we can get closer to the actual cost.
00:54:17.0] But it would be really great to be able to get that really critical
00:54:21.2] resource for the fire department, because we have a lot of things that are already
00:54:24.2] coming up that we're going to have in next year's budget.
00:54:26.4] Ms. Mack, and can you repeat one more time in regards of the benefit of this,
00:54:29.8] because it mentions leveraging grant funding reduces the general
00:54:33.2] fund or debt burden.
00:54:35.4] Correct.
00:54:35.5] So instead of spending $1.6 million
00:54:39.0] in regards to the general fund or debt burden, we're essentially trying to allocate
00:54:42.3] some of this funding to help some of that burden from the taxpayers leveraging this
00:54:46.1] grant.
00:54:46.6] Correct. And so it'd mean that this is a one-time capital purchase, and
00:54:50.5] we already have the ongoing maintenance contract.
00:54:54.6] And so this would mean that this would be at least $990,000
00:54:58.7] that we would not need to add to debt service next
00:55:02.5] year or to add to our general fund for next year.
00:55:05.8] And some of these things we just can't keep kicking the can on.
00:55:08.4] We've got to figure out some solutions for them.
00:55:10.5] Perfect. I have no further questions. Thank you, Sasha and Ms. Mack.
00:55:15.2] Thank you, Sasha and the team. I have one question. Ms.
00:55:18.6] Mack, on slide 12, or maybe Sasha could answer this.
00:55:21.9] I know we've given some business grants and we've done some support for other local
00:55:25.6] businesses. Is there any data that shows what that support
00:55:29.5] has translated into either businesses that have employed
00:55:33.1] people, sales revenue, tax revenue, anything that they've generated in our
00:55:36.9] community?
00:55:39.9] We're happy to bring that presentation back when-- and those of us who were able
00:55:43.9] to go to the BOSS Gala, was just so proud of the businesses
00:55:47.8] and the community and
00:55:51.0] all the partners who have come to help us to be able to do that work.
00:55:53.5] So I think it will be a nice recap, and maybe we can bring it for the 9th along
00:55:57.1] with the presentation, if that's okay with you.
00:55:59.1] I think that would be very beneficial so that our community can see what investment
00:56:03.0] really looks like and translates into benefit for
00:56:06.9] everyone. Thank you, Ms. Mack.
00:56:09.2] Okay.
00:56:09.3] Thank you, Sasha. I don't believe we have any action on this item, so we don't need
00:56:12.5] a motion. Is that correct?
00:56:13.8] Yes.
00:56:14.2] Thank you so much. Thank you both.
00:56:16.7] That brings us to item four, and this is discussion regarding the presentation of
00:56:20.2] the 2026 Animal Shelter Advisory Committee, ASAC,
00:56:24.6] annual report to City Council.
00:56:37.0] Welcome, Representative Canales.
00:56:39.5] Thank you. So strange every year to present from this side.
00:56:46.4] All right.
00:56:49.3] Good morning. I'm here to deliver this presentation not
00:56:53.2] as the representative for District 8, but as the chair of the city's Animal Shelter
00:56:57.2] Advisory Committee,
00:56:58.9] and we wanted to
00:57:01.0] make sure that we present to the council our annual report,
00:57:05.1] along with six recommendations
00:57:08.5] that the committee wanted to make to the city council.
00:57:12.8] I'll start with a little bit of background about the committee.
00:57:17.4] It consists of 13 members,
00:57:21.4] one member appointed by each of the districts and by the mayor's
00:57:25.4] office, making nine, and then four specialized
00:57:28.8] positions
00:57:30.4] appointed by the mayor's office. And those four positions are one
00:57:34.0] licensed veterinarian,
00:57:36.4] one person whose daily duties include the operation
00:57:40.4] of an animal shelter,
00:57:42.6] one person who is a representative of an animal welfare organization, and
00:57:46.5] then one
00:57:48.0] city or county official.
00:57:51.0] That one is me.
00:57:55.3] Also, before we start presenting the report, wanted to acknowledge the work
00:57:59.3] of the Animal Shelter Advisory Committee's ad hoc
00:58:03.2] subcommittee for the development of the annual report,
00:58:07.2] and that consisted of myself, Tess Passero, who is the vice
00:58:11.1] chair, and also the Animal Welfare
00:58:14.8] Organization representative,
00:58:18.3] Megan Sesker. Also appointed by the mayor as the
00:58:23.2] shelter operator
00:58:25.1] position,
00:58:26.4] Sylvia Serna, the District 2 appointee, and Mary Barduch, the District
00:58:30.7] 7 appointee. So thank you to the committee who put in the work to
00:58:35.5] prepare the annual report and to
00:58:38.9] really go back through the minutes of the meetings and the videos of the meetings
00:58:42.9] to make sure that everything that the ASAC discussed was captured and that
00:58:46.5] informed the recommendations.
00:58:50.5] So we'll go very briefly and we'll take a look at the
00:58:54.4] ASAC's strategic plan. The ASAC has adopted its own
00:58:58.3] strategic plan with a mission to advise,
00:59:02.4] support, and advocate for the well-being of animals in the El Paso community
00:59:07.1] and a vision to be the leader in animal welfare.
00:59:14.4] Looking at our committee by the numbers, we held 11 meetings
00:59:18.4] across fiscal year 2026,
00:59:21.5] considered a total of 50 agenda items.
00:59:24.8] We had three of the seats turn over, so we welcomed three new members
00:59:28.6] during the fiscal year,
00:59:32.2] and we had a total ASAC meeting duration of 18 hours
00:59:36.1] and 28 minutes.
00:59:38.2] That's a lot of time for volunteers to dedicate to the committee service, so
00:59:42.2] thank you to everybody
00:59:43.8] for all that investment of time.
00:59:47.2] And of course, that time is multiplied by the 13 members who serve.
00:59:51.1] I apologize that the text is quite small here, but
00:59:55.8] we
00:59:57.4] went through quite a transition from
01:00:00.0] many years of meeting virtually as the Animal Shelter Advisory
01:00:03.9] Committee to
01:00:05.6] a first year, and it actually transitioned mid-year, but a first year of
01:00:09.6] meeting in person.
01:00:12.1] And so you see a slight decrease in the attendance rate from last
01:00:16.1] year, which was in the 90s, but still a very strong,
01:00:20.4] nearly 85% attendance rate from the committee.
01:00:24.0] They've been incredibly dedicated.
01:00:31.1] And what was discussed? So there were
01:00:35.0] many topics that the ASAC discussed over the term of the
01:00:39.8] report,
01:00:41.2] but there were five things that the subcommittee that prepared the report
01:00:45.4] identified as kind of the topics that
01:00:48.7] spanned multiple meetings or pervaded multiple
01:00:52.0] conversations.
01:00:54.0] Spay and neuter access and funding was the
01:00:58.2] number one most discussed issue, and the council saw that
01:01:02.1] in the form of a recommendation
01:01:04.9] in last year's annual report, and then also a separate recommendation
01:01:09.6] during the consideration of the budget for the city
01:01:12.6] just a few months ago.
01:01:15.1] But the committee
01:01:16.5] repeatedly discussed ways to expand access for the
01:01:20.3] public to spay and neuter services, including the
01:01:24.8] community spay-a-thons that the department already holds and
01:01:29.0] other potential ways to increase the services that
01:01:33.0] are available to the public.
01:01:35.6] We discussed at length animal ordinances and legal and
01:01:39.6] regulatory issues.
01:01:41.9] We spent time across multiple meetings talking about potential
01:01:45.8] amendments to Title 7.
01:01:48.1] The committee did take a position
01:01:51.1] during the
01:01:52.4] year to recommend to the council the adoption of
01:01:56.4] some amendments to Title 7 that were ultimately adopted, the
01:02:00.8] vicious dog and dangerous dog ordinances.
01:02:04.7] And so the committee was pleased that the council
01:02:08.8] listened to their recommendation.
01:02:13.0] The committee discussed animal services operations and
01:02:17.5] performance and shelter conditions very frequently.
01:02:22.0] At every meeting, the committee receives the director's report
01:02:25.8] from El Paso Animal Services. The committee's purview actually is
01:02:29.5] larger than just El Paso Animal Services.
01:02:32.2] It actually encompasses the entirety of El Paso
01:02:36.1] County and all of the
01:02:38.8] shelters and animal welfare operations at those shelters across the entirety of the
01:02:42.8] county. But we do hear every month from El Paso Animal Services,
01:02:47.1] and the operations of that shelter were
01:02:50.4] a large focus of the time that the committee spent in its meetings.
01:02:56.1] We discussed community resources, outreach, and public awareness.
01:03:00.4] Quite frequently, the topic came up about how we can better
01:03:03.9] connect residents to the services that already exist, how
01:03:07.7] residents can be made more aware
01:03:10.3] of,
01:03:12.1] again, available services, but also
01:03:14.8] Title 7 of the municipal code and our
01:03:17.7] animal welfare laws that are already on the books.
01:03:21.9] And we discussed the possible development of a community pet resource alert
01:03:25.8] page
01:03:27.8] to
01:03:29.4] put all of the resources in one place.
01:03:32.2] We also discussed regional coordination and ASAC's role.
01:03:35.3] As I mentioned, it has purview larger than just the city
01:03:38.9] shelter. And
01:03:40.6] for the last several years, I think a lot of the focus of the ASAC has been
01:03:43.8] primarily on the city shelter. As we see the county
01:03:47.8] go through their development process for their own large facility that was
01:03:51.6] approved by the voters a few years ago.
01:03:54.8] And
01:03:56.0] they restructure and grow their department.
01:03:58.6] We've begun to invite El Paso County
01:04:02.6] to now come present about their animal operations,
01:04:07.2] and that's been a fruitful partnership.
01:04:08.8] And the ASAC has discussed ways to further increase
01:04:12.7] engagement with other
01:04:14.8] shelters and rescues and other entities
01:04:17.7] that can come provide us with information about their operations at their shelters
01:04:21.6] across the county.
01:04:26.7] We also
01:04:28.1] identified some frequently raised concerns.
01:04:31.1] These were things that came up, again, across multiple meetings that we
01:04:35.0] thought were important to flag for the council.
01:04:39.5] You'll see some overlap with the frequently discussed topics, but insufficient
01:04:43.3] access to affordable spay and neuter services
01:04:46.2] was the primary concern that had the most
01:04:50.6] discussion at the ASAC meetings.
01:04:55.3] Again, that culminated in a recommendation to the council that
01:04:59.2] has already happened.
01:05:01.0] And
01:05:02.5] the committee was very happy that, again, the council
01:05:05.5] agreed to fund additional spay and neuter services in the budget
01:05:09.6] for fiscal year '27.
01:05:12.4] Maintaining strong shelter standards and animal care practices
01:05:16.1] was another frequently raised concern.
01:05:18.5] The committee discussed housing and sanitation and
01:05:22.6] appropriate separation of sick, injured, or diseased animals from healthy
01:05:26.2] animals.
01:05:30.2] The committee received a couple of updates on
01:05:34.0] the screw worm
01:05:37.5] outbreak
01:05:38.8] that we've seen in surrounding areas, and
01:05:43.3] thankfully
01:05:44.7] not heavily in El Paso yet. And fingers crossed that
01:05:48.2] we're in the clear here, but kind of all around us, there has been
01:05:52.3] a large outbreak of New World screw worm that has been very difficult for
01:05:57.0] shelters, animal welfare organizations, but also
01:06:00.4] farmers, ranchers, pet owners. It's created a lot of extra
01:06:04.2] burdens. And so that is another thing that the committee
01:06:08.0] discussed multiple times and actually brought in
01:06:11.3] some expert information and an expert to provide us with
01:06:15.2] information.
01:06:18.9] Another frequently raised concern was public awareness of animal
01:06:22.4] welfare resources. There are lots of great organizations
01:06:26.2] operating within the community and lots of great resources that the city
01:06:30.0] offers through the Animal Services Department.
01:06:33.8] But not everybody is aware of all of those services, and
01:06:37.7] so that was always something that the committee returned
01:06:41.5] to.
01:06:43.5] How can we increase that awareness and better connect people to those services?
01:06:48.3] The Pet Pantries program was one that was brought up frequently.
01:06:51.0] That's a program of the libraries, the El Paso Public Libraries,
01:06:54.9] not Animal Services, but it's another key service
01:06:58.8] for
01:07:00.1] pet owners in El Paso, and the committee frequently discussed ways to
01:07:03.8] better connect the people that those resources serve
01:07:07.8] to the availability of the resources.
01:07:11.6] And finally, supporting effective staffing, leadership, and regional
01:07:15.2] coordination. The committee discussed ways to better
01:07:19.2] recognize and support the employees,
01:07:22.3] in particular at El Paso Animal Services.
01:07:26.6] There are a lot of very difficult city jobs, but I would put some of
01:07:30.6] those positions at Animal Services up against any of them.
01:07:34.3] They're both physically difficult and I think emotionally difficult for a lot of
01:07:37.9] those employees. And so the ASAC
01:07:40.7] I was very focused on
01:07:43.9] making sure that those employees are being supported in their work
01:07:48.1] and
01:07:49.4] discussing ways that
01:07:51.8] potentially the community can support or the city can support those
01:07:55.4] employees better.
01:08:01.0] And so the ASAC, as a result, is making six
01:08:04.6] recommendations to the council.
01:08:07.2] You've seen recommendations come forward over the last couple of years,
01:08:10.9] and
01:08:12.5] the
01:08:14.1] subcommittee who prepared the report actually wanted me specifically to
01:08:17.9] thank the council for
01:08:20.3] adopting a lot of the recommendations that have come from the ASAC over the past
01:08:24.5] couple of years. And so
01:08:27.3] we can move to the first recommendation, and that is to establish recurring
01:08:31.0] funding to sustain high-volume spay and neuter services.
01:08:36.3] Again, the committee was very grateful that the council included, for the first
01:08:40.0] time, funding for
01:08:42.2] very high volume spay/neuter event, a single
01:08:46.1] event but a large one,
01:08:48.5] in the fiscal year 2027 budget.
01:08:52.0] The recommendation from the committee is essentially to
01:08:55.4] consider making that level of support something that's permanently included in
01:08:59.3] the city's budget in order to
01:09:03.2] be able to provide that expanded service to the public.
01:09:07.1] We anticipate that the funded program
01:09:11.1] in fiscal year 2027 will provide an additional,
01:09:15.5] somewhere between 1,000 and 1,400 spay and neuter surgeries
01:09:19.6] to the public.
01:09:21.1] And that can make a real dent in the number of animals that we see coming into the
01:09:25.1] shelter.
01:09:26.4] So we hope that this is something that the council will consider
01:09:30.1] in the development of next year's budget.
01:09:35.8] Recommendation number two is strengthen regional coordination and shared
01:09:39.2] responsibility for animal welfare.
01:09:41.3] Again, this is something that
01:09:43.9] is already
01:09:45.4] ongoing, and we've seen, I think, a strengthening of ties
01:09:49.2] between
01:09:50.6] city animal services, and then the
01:09:53.9] county's animal welfare department as well.
01:09:57.3] We want to continue
01:09:59.2] expanding those partnerships and making sure
01:10:02.9] that the council
01:10:05.7] is engaged as well on the
01:10:09.5] relationships that happen with counterparts at the county and other
01:10:13.4] jurisdictions with regard to their work on animal
01:10:17.3] welfare.
01:10:20.0] Recommendation number three is to maintain and modernize animal services
01:10:23.2] facilities, equipment, and fleet.
01:10:27.5] As was mentioned during the budget process recently, a lot of the
01:10:31.5] animal services fleet in particular is
01:10:35.5] beyond its useful life at this point.
01:10:39.3] And a lot of those vehicles, particularly the animal protection
01:10:43.4] officer vehicles that are out in the field every day,
01:10:46.9] are hanging on by a thread.
01:10:48.5] So this
01:10:52.8] recommendation number three
01:10:56.0] was to invest in those tools that the
01:11:01.4] El Paso Animal Services
01:11:03.5] needs
01:11:05.3] every day.
01:11:07.1] And again, facilities are a part of that as well.
01:11:10.4] There have been significant facilities upgrades at animal
01:11:14.1] services,
01:11:15.6] but there's always more need, and there are animals
01:11:19.3] being held because of capacity in temporary
01:11:22.8] facilities that
01:11:26.1] is not necessarily a longer-term sustainable solution.
01:11:29.5] And so the committee recommends making the investments in
01:11:33.4] those infrastructure pieces that the department needs.
01:11:39.0] Our recommendation number four is continuing strategies that reduce length of
01:11:42.8] stay and improve positive outcomes.
01:11:46.3] El Paso Animal Services has presented regularly to the committee about
01:11:51.7] pretty comprehensive restructuring of the foster program, the adoption
01:11:55.7] program, the behavioral program, the medical program,
01:12:02.1] and
01:12:03.6] placement practices. And so
01:12:07.8] all of that is change that's very welcome, and the
01:12:11.6] committee wants to make sure that those changes are
01:12:16.6] continued and that they're made formal parts of the way
01:12:20.4] that El Paso Animal Services operates.
01:12:23.7] Length of stay data is showing that the average length of
01:12:27.6] stay for animals is coming down significantly,
01:12:30.9] which is a great thing for capacity at the shelter.
01:12:36.1] So we hope that these upgrades and changes
01:12:39.8] to policies within the department continue.
01:12:44.2] And recommendation number five is to balance effective enforcement with a
01:12:47.7] strong community safety net.
01:12:50.8] The committee discussed at length, as I said,
01:12:55.3] Title 7, both changes to the city
01:12:59.0] code
01:13:00.4] with regard to animals and animal welfare,
01:13:03.4] but also enforcement of existing code
01:13:08.0] on things ranging from animal cruelty to breeding and sale
01:13:12.3] to standards of care.
01:13:15.0] We want to make sure that
01:13:17.0] that
01:13:18.4] enforcement aspect is also balanced with providing
01:13:22.3] resources to the public
01:13:24.4] in order to
01:13:26.3] maybe alleviate some of the pressures that people feel that can lead to some of the
01:13:30.5] bad behaviors or violations of Title 7.
01:13:34.2] So that includes things like pet food assistance, as mentioned before,
01:13:37.7] accessible spay and neuter services, lower cost veterinary care
01:13:43.3] Im-improve public education. That's something that we've seen from the
01:13:47.6] department already, but that we want to see an expansion of,
01:13:51.1] and better communication of available resources to the public.
01:13:56.3] And finally, recommendation number six is to invest in animal services
01:14:00.3] workforce capacity and development.
01:14:03.3] The department has wonderful employees and as I said earlier,
01:14:07.2] many of them doing very difficult jobs.
01:14:10.8] And so, the committee
01:14:12.7] recognizes that successful animal welfare outcomes
01:14:16.7] depend on
01:14:18.1] the staff at the shelter who are
01:14:22.0] being asked to do a lot of work,
01:14:24.8] doing that work in a way where they feel supported.
01:14:29.6] We want to
01:14:30.8] make sure that the focus is on identifying
01:14:34.5] ways that these employees can advance through the department,
01:14:39.3] strengthening the career pathways available to them, reducing
01:14:43.0] vacancies and turnover at the shelter,
01:14:47.1] and then recognizing the employees that are doing a great job,
01:14:51.2] and making sure that the staffing capacity keeps pace with the needs
01:14:55.2] of the shelter.
01:15:01.1] We also wanted to give special thanks to those who have been involved in the
01:15:05.0] meetings of the ASAC over the fiscal year.
01:15:09.5] Michael Waksman, the interim director at El Paso Animal Services, presents his
01:15:12.9] report to us at every meeting. So thank you to Michael.
01:15:15.9] Those reports have gotten more and more detailed.
01:15:18.2] They're now broken down
01:15:20.2] by program within the department, and we get a great
01:15:24.0] density of information from those.
01:15:26.9] I'll give extra special shout-outs to Maria Arciniega,
01:15:30.8] who is the staff liaison to the committee and prepares our
01:15:34.7] agendas and makes sure that
01:15:37.5] we're on track. And then,
01:15:40.2] another extra special shout-out to Mona Heydarian, who
01:15:44.2] is the staff attorney from the city attorney's office
01:15:48.5] assigned to the committee,
01:15:50.7] who in addition to all of the duties
01:15:54.7] of this assigned staff attorney, also gives us excellent
01:15:58.7] presentations quarterly about the ASAC's duties.
01:16:02.9] And we rotate through
01:16:05.3] the state law provisions that establish the ASAC and then the city code
01:16:08.9] provisions.
01:16:10.7] The ASAC is a strange committee in that it has
01:16:14.5] some requirements from the state and state law.
01:16:17.9] The city is required to have an Animal Shelter Advisory Committee,
01:16:22.5] but then also separate requirements from the city code.
01:16:25.9] And so in order to foster understanding both for the public and for
01:16:29.8] the members,
01:16:31.7] Mona goes through those presentations with us very regularly and it's very helpful.
01:16:35.8] So extra big shout-outs to those folks.
01:16:39.8] And that was the last slide. So with that,
01:16:42.1] I'm happy to answer any questions.
01:16:45.5] Thank you for the presentation.
01:16:48.1] Representative Rocha.
01:16:50.7] Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you, Representative Canales, or should I say
01:16:54.4] President of ASAC Canales?
01:16:57.1] Put your president hat on. And a lot of these recommendations-
01:17:00.5] Chair. President sounds like a two bigger promotion.
01:17:02.8] Well, chairman.
01:17:05.0] Yeah.
01:17:05.0] So,
01:17:06.6] with all these recommendations, a lot of these are already being
01:17:09.7] implemented to some form.
01:17:11.7] Yes.
01:17:12.0] Correct?
01:17:13.2] Yes. And again,
01:17:14.7] recall this is
01:17:16.4] timed to the fiscal year-
01:17:18.0] Right
01:17:18.0] ... so it has already been a few months and many of the things that were
01:17:21.7] discussed and recommended here in the report did get considered and
01:17:25.4] adopted in the meanwhile.
01:17:27.3] So I want to give thanks to Michael and his staff
01:17:31.7] for really taking that initiative to be
01:17:35.6] able to do that. I know that now
01:17:39.0] you all are closing once a month, if I'm not mistaken, to clean
01:17:43.0] and just do a real deep cleaning if I'm not mistaken, and do some
01:17:46.7] staff
01:17:49.3] training. And so I think that all of that is super important to be able
01:17:53.3] to make sure that
01:17:55.3] you're reaching these particular goals.
01:17:59.4] The one concern, I know that as a council, we
01:18:03.3] adopted or included the recommendation for the
01:18:07.1] low-cost spay and neuter, right?
01:18:09.0] Yes.
01:18:09.2] Which I think is a total of 128,000. Is that right?
01:18:13.7] 122,000.
01:18:14.8] 122,000. And so that's going to come.
01:18:17.7] Unfortunately, we didn't pass the additional piece which
01:18:21.7] would have given the maintenance of the vehicles
01:18:25.9] on the animal services portion,
01:18:30.7] the much needed care that they need in order to be out there in the
01:18:34.6] community to do everything in the public education piece,
01:18:38.4] everything in being out in the community.
01:18:41.0] I really do support the recommendations that ASAC has
01:18:45.0] provided. I think that we need to do
01:18:49.7] some creativity as to how we can include more
01:18:53.6] for animal services. So thank you. I really appreciate it.
01:18:57.6] And thank you to the committee as well for their work.
01:19:04.8] Representative Nino.
01:19:06.4] Thank you, Chairman Canales, as well for all your work on this important
01:19:10.2] advocacy that has to take place in our community. I have one super quick follow-up.
01:19:13.8] During the conversation about the
01:19:16.2] spay and neuter services-
01:19:17.4] Mm-hmm
01:19:17.5] ... we mentioned a little about an organization possibly also
01:19:21.4] taking part of doing other spay and neuter events.
01:19:24.4] Do you know if they were able to approve that, or did they agree on
01:19:28.3] moving that forward?
01:19:30.5] It's still not 100% decided. Again,
01:19:34.7] the
01:19:35.9] city
01:19:37.4] approved funding for one event.
01:19:41.0] There's still the possibility of a couple of other events that
01:19:45.0] funding would come from
01:19:46.7] elsewhere. And so,
01:19:48.7] it's still not Committed, but I think it's very likely that we
01:19:52.6] will see additional work with that organization,
01:19:56.5] Greater Good Charities.
01:19:59.7] They have already visited El Paso.
01:20:03.8] They were here less than two weeks ago
01:20:07.0] for
01:20:08.9] site visits and going through their planning
01:20:12.9] process for bringing that first event here.
01:20:16.4] They
01:20:17.7] were,
01:20:18.8] I think it's fair to say,
01:20:20.8] their words, they were blown away by El Paso and the operation that we have going
01:20:24.5] here. They were very excited to work with us.
01:20:27.7] And so, I think that they
01:20:30.5] very much want to continue to have a presence here.
01:20:33.1] And
01:20:34.4] the funding pieces just have to come together for additional events for them.
01:20:37.3] But I think it's very likely.
01:20:38.8] Okay. No, I just wanted to follow up on that because I know that we had talked
01:20:41.4] briefly about that, and I was just curious to see if the other organizations had
01:20:45.0] agreed or not. But thank you for all your work. Appreciate it.
01:20:47.4] No further questions.
01:20:50.5] Thank you, Chair Canales. I also have a question.
01:20:53.0] Okay.
01:20:53.6] I know there are some board members that have been there for a bit
01:20:57.4] longer, and some others that are new.
01:21:00.0] What is the process of accepting these recommendations?
01:21:03.3] Was it unanimous from the board, or how does everybody feel about them?
01:21:07.4] Yeah.
01:21:08.5] Again, there was the subcommittee of myself plus
01:21:13.2] four other members, who
01:21:15.8] made an initial pass at the annual report.
01:21:18.7] It was then presented to the full committee,
01:21:22.3] who did adopt this unanimously, the
01:21:27.0] report and the six recommendations in the state they're currently in.
01:21:29.7] There were some small adjustments that were made along the way, but
01:21:33.7] yes, it was
01:21:35.0] a unanimous vote by the committee.
01:21:37.6] Okay. And that's really good to know, to see that there's consensus within the
01:21:40.8] committee for these recommendations.
01:21:43.0] I think it was a data point that you said, and I think it's important
01:21:47.1] probably to highlight it once again, how many additional spay and neuters you
01:21:50.9] think will take place given that additional funding that we adopted through the
01:21:54.8] budget?
01:21:56.2] Yeah. We anticipate somewhere between 1,000 and
01:21:59.4] 1,400.
01:22:01.6] We'll probably be in the ballpark of 1,200 additional
01:22:05.6] surgeries. A lot of it, I think, depends on the balance of
01:22:09.3] dog surgeries and cat surgeries.
01:22:12.4] Some are faster than others.
01:22:13.7] Right.
01:22:13.9] Larger dogs versus small dogs and things like that.
01:22:15.8] But it will be somewhere in that ballpark.
01:22:17.9] Okay. That's really good to know. And in addition to that, we've been supporting,
01:22:21.8] of course, the department because I do think they brought forward an
01:22:25.6] increase in their budget this fiscal year. Do you remember?
01:22:29.0] I think it was about $1.5 million-
01:22:31.6] Yes, that's-
01:22:31.8] ... in additional funding.
01:22:33.4] Mm-hmm.
01:22:34.5] And I'm really happy that the council has been supportive of the department.
01:22:38.2] I know that there's a lot of need across many city departments in our city.
01:22:41.6] So, we're happy to support. And I have a question, but I'll ask you
01:22:45.5] probably after the meeting-
01:22:46.7] Okay
01:22:47.2] ... regarding something specific to District 1.
01:22:49.8] Sounds good.
01:22:50.1] Thank you. Thank you, Chair Canales.
01:22:51.6] All right.
01:22:51.7] And I don't believe this is posted for any action.
01:22:53.8] It is not. One final note. At
01:22:56.8] full crew, the committee has 13 members.
01:23:01.3] There are currently two vacancies.
01:23:03.0] So I promise, not trying to shame anybody, just so
01:23:07.0] folks are aware, District 6 has a vacancy,
01:23:12.2] and District 7 has a fresh vacancy,
01:23:16.1] but a member who's eligible for reappointment.
01:23:18.6] And so,
01:23:20.7] otherwise, the committee currently stands at
01:23:23.9] 11 out of the 13 members. And one
01:23:27.8] final thing to say, and that is a big shout-out to
01:23:31.6] Barbara Candelaria, who served on the committee
01:23:35.5] for quite a long time,
01:23:37.7] and just termed out. So she's done
01:23:41.7] a couple of stints on the committee and
01:23:45.1] has been really a mainstay for years and years.
01:23:47.9] And
01:23:49.1] she was the District 6 appointee, and her term has expired.
01:23:52.7] So thank you to Barbara for the many years of service on the committee.
01:23:57.0] That's great. Thank you. I don't think there's any further questions.
01:24:00.1] All right. Thank you.
01:24:02.0] Ms. Prime, before we retire into executive, I think we have public
01:24:05.6] comment.
01:24:06.6] Yes, ma'am. There's public comment on EX1 from Kyle Elliott.
01:24:12.7] Good morning, Mr. Elliott. You have three minutes.
01:24:15.1] Good morning. Thank you.
01:24:16.8] Good morning.
01:24:18.0] Good morning. Mayor Pro Tem, city council members, thank you very much for giving
01:24:21.8] me this opportunity to speak to you about
01:24:26.3] the reason that I came here. My name is Kyle Elliott, and I'm a
01:24:30.1] resident of the Rancho Soreno community in El Paso's Upper
01:24:33.9] Valley. And this morning, simply all I want to do is just read a
01:24:37.3] statement from our homeowners association
01:24:40.5] concerning an ongoing problem that's
01:24:42.8] pushing two years
01:24:44.4] at this point. So, if I may.
01:24:45.9] "Dear council
01:24:49.6] representative for District 1 and city attorney's office.
01:24:53.2] The Rancho Soreno Homeowners Association supports affected
01:24:56.9] residents'
01:24:58.6] request for effective enforcement concerning the paddle courts adjacent to our
01:25:02.2] neighborhood.
01:25:04.0] Residents report recurring court noise, yelling, music, and
01:25:07.7] bright overhead lighting extending well into the nighttime hours.
01:25:11.5] These disturbances interfere with the peaceful enjoyment of nearby homes
01:25:15.7] and raise concerns about the long-term effects of our neighborhood's residential
01:25:19.5] character, marketability, and property values.
01:25:22.3] Although the property is outside our HOA, its impact extends into our
01:25:26.4] community. Regardless of whether paid commercial operations have
01:25:30.0] ceased or not,
01:25:32.5] residents report that the noise and lighting disturbances continue.
01:25:36.2] We respectfully request that the city address any established zoning,
01:25:40.0] permitting, noise, and lighting violations and pursue measures
01:25:43.9] that achieve lasting compliance.
01:25:46.3] We also oppose commercial rezoning or further expansion that would intensify these
01:25:50.2] impacts. Please include this correspondence in the city in record
01:25:54.2] for the city's consideration of this matter.
01:25:56.4] We appreciate your attention and ask that you advise us of any additional
01:26:00.2] documentation residents can provide to assist enforcement.
01:26:03.8] Sincerely, Board of Directors, Rancho Sorrento Homeowners Association.
01:26:08.5] And with that,
01:26:11.7] that's it.
01:26:12.6] Thank you, Mr. Elliott.
01:26:14.0] Thank you very much.
01:26:15.9] Council, is there a motion to return to executive session?
01:26:19.2] So moved.
01:26:19.2] Second.
01:26:19.8] There's the motion and a second to return to executive session. All in favor?
01:26:24.2] Aye.
01:26:24.2] Anyone opposed?
01:26:25.9] And the City Council of the City of El Paso may return to executive session
01:26:28.9] pursuant to Section 3.5a of the El Paso City Charter and the Texas Government Code
01:26:32.9] Chapter 551 Subchapter D to discuss any of the
01:26:36.6] following executive session item one, Patricia Alvarez and Paddle
01:26:40.4] Ranch Health and Wellness under 551.071.
01:26:43.7] Executive session item two, Ysleta del Sur Pueblo versus City of El Paso, cause
01:26:47.5] number EP-23-CV-132-DCG
01:26:52.1] under 551.071. Executive session item three, real estate
01:26:56.0] division update, HQ number 25-5035 under
01:27:00.5] 551.072, and executive session item four, legal advice regarding the grant
01:27:04.3] application to Meta Platforms, Inc.
01:27:06.6] through the Futures for Everyone fund, requesting $4 million in grant funds
01:27:10.6] with no match required from the City of El Paso for the El Paso Climate Action
01:27:14.6] Implementation Program under 551.071.
01:27:18.0] These measures are taken into executive session under 551.071.
01:27:22.1] Consultation with attorney in 551.072.
01:27:25.4] Deliberation regarding real property. It is 10:23 AM.
01:32:04.5] I just want to make sure that
01:32:06.5] I save enough time for this
01:32:08.9] course and the other students.
01:32:30.2] Also, what do you mean by the cost?
01:32:31.4] I mean, the economy of it. You want to make sure
01:32:35.7] that it's not going to be
01:32:40.2] . But this is
01:32:40.6] just
01:32:48.5] for one water.
01:32:50.0] I'm just wondering because the water situation is getting
01:33:11.6] tight.
01:33:15.6] There's been lots of less water. So one
01:33:19.5] test was four bottles a day.
01:33:23.8] So 100K gallons per day,
01:33:27.8] which
01:33:29.8] we just worked with the
01:33:33.3] portfolio stuff and they're taking about the same amount.
01:33:37.0] And then they are only spending 30,000 gallons a
01:33:43.2] day, which is peanuts compared to the similar portfolio properties on the school.
01:33:46.1] All 14 units are 500,000 a year.
01:33:48.7] Wow! So it would be less. What communities are going to be less than
01:33:52.7] the equivalent of all those?
01:33:54.7] Okay. So there's a lot of
01:33:58.6] noise about something that maybe is
01:34:01.5] stored.
01:34:03.8] Well, that's encouraging.
01:34:05.5] Yes. We're not doing that well.
01:34:08.7] It's not on that
01:34:10.0] big part.
01:34:19.1] Is this your first visit here?
01:34:20.8] Yes.
01:34:21.3] Welcome.
01:34:21.6] Thank you.
01:34:22.0] Have you made
01:34:25.0] it in?
01:34:25.8] No, I haven't.
01:34:26.9] This is Diane Allen. She's going to be your attorney and help you with real
01:34:30.7] estate.
01:34:32.6] Is that your area of expertise, real estate?
01:34:35.1] Yes.
01:34:35.7] Well, I'm going to need a ton of help with that.
01:34:37.4] I've done a lot of different property issues.
01:34:41.6] Nice.
01:34:41.7] Maybe it's going to be a game changer for some of
01:34:45.0] the people.
01:34:45.2] I mean, in general, I'm sure
01:34:48.0] any company would want to take
01:34:50.3] a
01:34:51.5] call on that.
01:34:51.8] But with the background in hospitality real estate, it seems like there's a lot of
01:34:54.8] flexibility for a company to be able to adjust their policies to be more
01:34:58.8] flexible about things being done
01:35:02.6] remotely.
01:35:03.7] Where were you working?
01:35:05.8] Before this, I was working in education, and I was getting super frustrated
01:35:10.0] with education. I don't think they're the most
01:35:12.9] innovative. They're all run by
01:35:16.2] bureaucrats, I think.
01:35:18.2] Okay. I think so.
01:35:19.7] They're very small.
01:35:26.1] You said you were
01:35:28.7] working in education.
01:35:29.7] I was
01:35:29.9] working
01:35:35.1] in housing with crisis workers still.
01:35:35.1] Really?
01:35:35.1] Yeah. I just felt like I was always doing too
01:35:38.1] much stuff. If I was trying to just make ends
01:35:41.5] meet.
01:35:41.9] You are a survivor.
01:35:44.7] Which I did a lot about coming to law school.
01:35:46.8] So I don't know. I just
01:35:50.5] feel like it's too much.
01:35:53.4] Yeah. So it feels like right now you're figuring out that one.
01:35:59.1] Yeah.
01:35:59.1] Yeah.
01:35:59.1] Honestly, I was kind of looking for a job.
01:36:02.0] Like I said.
01:36:04.1] I understand.
01:36:05.1] Yeah.
01:36:08.2] There's been plenty of times I took the first job offer.
01:36:12.7] You won't run out of interviews today.
01:36:14.8] Oh, no. Things get very busy.
01:36:16.6] Something from your last job
01:36:30.4] that you
01:36:30.6] really
01:36:37.1] liked or a future device?
01:36:37.5] It's always a vision.
01:36:39.2] Oh, okay.
01:36:39.9] Do you
01:36:40.1] think
01:36:46.7] it's just too early? Yeah. That's where I would go.
01:36:50.4] What's GS2?
01:36:50.5] What's that?
01:36:53.6] GS2.
01:36:55.9] Everyone has that.
01:36:58.0] Oh, I do.
01:36:59.6] Or at least take them all.
01:37:02.2] Yeah, sorry. I was studying the abbreviation.
01:37:04.8] I think I see it somewhere else too.
01:37:07.0] Oh, okay.
01:37:07.9] But I heard that in my
01:37:23.1] grad program.
01:37:24.5] Yes.
01:37:32.8] Correct.
01:37:45.6] I was like, do you still see that?
01:37:45.9] Is that an iPad or a Surface Pro?
01:37:48.0] This is an iPad.
01:37:49.7] Does everything function like a SharePoint?
01:37:52.6] SharePoint, yes.
01:37:57.7] What else would work though?
01:37:59.4] Just functionality because I know-
01:38:11.6] I think the only thing that I cannot do very well is anything myself.
01:38:18.4] I can see it but modifying them is
01:38:28.2] because I have expectations and I can
01:38:37.0] .
01:38:37.1] You know what problem could be explained with that?
01:38:40.4] On my math grad, there was
01:38:42.9] something about just the interface and how much you could do
01:39:27.0] with it. Oh, shoot!
01:39:30.4] We weren't muted.
01:39:34.0] What?
01:39:35.8] It's
01:39:39.8] wonderful.
01:39:42.0] So I'm glad we're
01:39:42.8] complaining
01:41:51.7] about
01:42:25.0] it.
01:50:35.5] I don't even know
01:50:37.2] what your response
01:50:43.0] is. Well, I think that the AI has not adopted.
01:50:46.4] I've got to learn to use Claude, ChatGPT,
01:50:50.4] or something.
01:50:51.9] And you may be so good at it that you're writing all these headlines and
01:50:55.4] answering questions much more efficiently
01:50:58.7] than I can. So I
01:51:02.6] end up being the college professor kind of thing
01:51:07.1] where she's going to get all these headlines from all these other places,
01:51:11.9] and it creates this kind of like this fog or something.
01:51:17.5] There's something about AI that's really equitable or a visual
01:51:21.4] aid
01:51:22.5] or something like
01:51:25.6] that. And I think that's one of the values of using
01:51:34.0] AI. It becomes very popular very quickly.
01:51:37.2] And so the problem with creating and teaching something is that you teach yourself
01:51:39.7] into technology. And whether or not it actually works for you or is successful or
01:51:39.9] not is like
01:51:49.8] a very different thing. And
01:51:54.5] while I understand why they would
01:51:55.9] want
01:52:00.0] to do that, I think
01:52:04.1] you have to contract
01:52:05.8] that
01:52:08.1] people will use things that way because it doesn't-- You can see where the AI was
01:52:09.8] probably thinking but wasn't correct
01:52:13.1] because- Yeah, there's some great uses for that,
01:52:18.8] but for imaging or something- Oh,
01:52:21.1] yeah.
01:52:27.0] Cancer research.
01:52:30.7] Gene edits. You have to go through
01:52:32.6] all those
01:52:34.0] obvious legal rights and things
01:52:38.0] like that. They also teach you how
01:52:43.9] to do things the same or a certain way,
01:52:47.3] and that means this thing is probably also
01:52:51.2] true. Except for stuff like cancer.
01:52:56.1] Yeah, and I think it was really interesting because the thing is, is that
01:53:00.2] we
01:53:06.8] have this big bubble of public sentiment where this
01:53:10.7] is so much application, and it's
01:53:14.7] working. But it all works until it doesn't work.
01:53:22.4] And I think
01:53:24.2] the history is showing that.
01:53:26.6] Which means that from this brief use that I had, and that
01:53:30.6] was a whole station that was like, "Oh no, I
01:53:34.8] had this whole big communication with this thing that turned into spam or they were
01:53:44.9] using AI to promote a product or something, and it didn't do what they
01:53:48.9] said it would do." And all of a sudden, yeah, that's when it's just like,
01:53:52.7] "Oh."
01:53:54.5] And
01:53:55.8] I didn't see anything come out of it negatively.
01:54:00.3] It's like so last week, two weeks ago, there was a
01:54:06.7] semi-famous person who posted naked
01:54:09.8] imagery. And so there was this
01:54:14.0] whole thing.
01:54:19.3] But in 2024, seeing just across
01:54:23.5] every practice area, there's almost nobody high that
01:54:27.6] isn't hearing about it.
01:54:31.6] And it seems to be having a bunch of people that are businesses seeing this as
01:54:35.0] something
01:54:36.6] that can either be on their side as opposed to
01:54:40.0] completely overwhelming them and destroying them.
01:54:44.9] I think a lot of people are going to
01:54:49.9] figure out very quickly that they're going to have to
01:54:52.7] do something about it. And I don't know.
01:54:56.2] When did you start this license issue?
01:55:04.7] In March. And the person in law school.
01:55:08.6] So for them, that is just what
01:55:12.9] we have.
01:55:24.7] And it's like, "Well, I don't know." And I think that's one of the biggest problems
01:55:28.0] is that most people who do something- Sure. ...
01:55:30.0] that's gone already scored 70 to 80% on
01:55:32.9] their potential testing
01:55:36.9] anyway. But
01:55:38.2] in a four-hole three-page section on how to use AI in this context, it's not very
01:55:41.9] descriptive.
01:55:51.7] In law school? Yeah. Because I have an email I know people get caught
01:55:55.6] by that all the time.
01:55:58.1] When you're researching, you have to look
01:56:01.0] at your text first and then
01:56:05.2] in order to find individual cases, you have to go to Westlaw
01:56:09.2] or LexisNexis.
01:56:11.2] So you understand what the scope of intelligence solutions
01:56:14.9] means. There's a lot of stuff that you have to do before you even get to the point
01:56:18.4] where it's educating you about what
01:56:22.6] intelligence means for you as opposed to
01:56:26.3] what it means for the next couple of years.
02:02:50.4] It's not perfect.
02:02:52.9] Yeah, and that just makes it a little quicker.
02:02:54.8] So five figures, automatic population, but the wall right
02:02:58.5] there. So I think we can pull that. And
02:03:02.5] the other thing that comes to mind is these walls all
02:03:05.7] around
02:03:17.0] the theater.
02:03:17.8] I think that actually goes for it.
02:03:19.6] Yeah,
02:03:22.3] they're going to use the wall location for
02:03:24.7] the
02:03:28.6] pop-up.
02:03:29.5] I assume whatever exists now.
02:03:30.6] Yeah.
02:03:30.6] I think that deserves attention.
02:03:30.6] Yeah.
02:03:30.6] I think that makes a lot of sense.
02:03:30.6] You know what? Here's another question. I have a wall between us.
02:03:30.8] So many choices.
02:03:30.8] We want to have two weeks of credits to go along with that.
02:03:33.4] Yeah.
02:03:34.0] So that gives us upwards of 15 weeks on it.
02:03:37.9] Yeah.
02:03:38.3] I like that.
02:03:38.7] That's the
02:03:42.7] same
02:03:47.6] concept.
02:03:47.9] Okay. Oh, yeah.
02:03:49.4] That is on course a little later.
02:03:50.3] Yeah.
02:03:50.3] We're saying a quarter of the way out.
02:03:55.8] Yeah.
02:03:56.2] There's one path that they track on.
02:03:58.9] Yeah.
02:04:02.2] I guess they all are.
02:04:03.1] How many classes do you think they might have?
02:04:06.5] I'm not going to say we can do that.
02:04:08.0] It's like a whole quarter.
02:04:11.1] Yeah.
02:04:11.6] We're not at six,
02:04:16.1] we're probably at seven.
02:04:16.5] So the next step, the next direct step is to do a statutory
02:04:20.4] notice. So there's a section within the qualified notice triggering,
02:04:24.6] and I have that letter drafted. We would send that to the
02:04:28.5] clerk and then from there,
02:04:31.6] responses received and everything, that would be in good time for
02:04:35.5] purposes of submitting. I think that after that, that
02:04:39.7] kind of feedback would be maybe the best time to talk to the
02:04:46.7] clerk and ask for 15
02:04:49.1] minutes.
02:04:55.9] I mean, I think that we'll necessarily going to get to the next point once we
02:04:59.7] get
02:05:03.9] to what they're helping with,
02:05:10.7] but I think it's just
02:05:14.2] starting to get to the point where we have to tell people
02:05:18.3] that we didn't get this message.
02:05:20.7] We're working on this. The rest is
02:05:24.6] up to us. And then also always
02:05:28.1] bringing up one part of the conversation and not the other.
02:05:31.6] That was actually my question.
02:05:33.2] Yeah.
02:05:34.5] Yeah,
02:05:46.4] I wanted to check
02:06:02.2] in with you about that. I would need to start outreach and see if this is something
02:06:04.9] that they would appreciate.
02:06:05.5] Yeah.
02:06:05.5] I know you want to do this.
02:06:05.6] Yeah.
02:06:05.6] So we have like five right now.
02:06:05.6] Yeah, I saw something earlier today.
02:06:06.1] I would say give us a week.
02:06:06.7] I would say give us a week, yeah.
02:06:09.8] These are going to save the seat. Can we talk on Friday, Nick, for us?
02:06:18.2] Okay.
02:06:27.2] Sure.
02:06:28.8] Okay.
02:06:29.7] There's not one other way.
02:06:30.8] Yeah.
02:06:31.3] Oh, of course.
02:08:43.0] Certain things.
02:08:45.7] All right.
02:08:46.6] I think we're good.
02:08:48.7] That's good.
02:08:50.3] Yeah.
02:15:10.2] Yeah.
02:15:14.1] Well,
02:15:15.9] we got two
02:15:16.4] things
02:15:25.2] that we wanted to do. That's nice. Did you get everything today?
02:15:32.6] Yeah. How big
02:15:33.2] is
02:15:46.9] it?
02:15:50.2] Actually, I hired someone just to do that.
02:15:59.4] I thought they did a pretty good job. Thank you very much.
02:16:11.1] Okay. My mom put-- Because our house
02:16:15.2] is 3,000 square feet.
02:16:22.8] And they quoted us 30K for, I guess,
02:16:26.9] a ton of jobs that would just require
02:16:31.4] some
02:16:33.1] maybe 10 years, but would last 50
02:16:35.7] years.
02:16:42.5] Whereas this one lasted-
02:16:55.6] They can tell it's not. And they told me,
02:16:58.1] I have to go up and make sure that the mortar's not broken.
02:17:05.2] Yeah. I'll send you the proof. Okay. That seems a little crazy. Yeah.
03:03:22.8] Is there a motion to come out of executive session?
03:03:26.6] There's a motion and a second to come out of executive session. All in favor?
03:03:30.9] Anyone opposed?
03:03:32.7] And the meeting is back in session at 12 noon.
03:03:36.5] Alternate Mayor Pro Tem, we're on EX1.
03:03:38.9] EX1, motion made, second, and carried that the city attorney,
03:03:42.8] in consultation with the city manager, be authorized to file suit
03:03:46.8] against Paddle Ranch Health & Wellness Center and
03:03:50.7] Patricia Alvarez in HQ matter number
03:03:55.0] 5684 to gain compliance with Title 20 of the City
03:03:59.0] Code of El Paso.
03:04:00.2] Second.
03:04:00.9] And to take all steps necessary, including the execution of
03:04:04.8] any required document in order to
03:04:09.9] effectuate this authority. I need a larger font.
03:04:14.2] Thank you.
03:04:14.3] Second.
03:04:18.2] There's a motion made by Alternate Mayor Pro Tem Piedra and read into the record,
03:04:22.2] seconded by Representative Limón, and this is on EX1 to
03:04:25.8] file a lawsuit.
03:04:28.6] On that motion, call for the vote.
03:04:44.6] Alternate Mayor Pro Tem Piedra?
03:04:46.4] Aye.
03:04:46.5] Thank you. End the voting session, and that motion passes
03:04:49.8] unanimously. Representative Acevedo not present.
03:04:53.5] EX2?
03:04:54.6] No action.
03:04:55.3] Thank you. EX3?
03:04:56.7] No action.
03:04:57.4] Thank you. EX4?
03:04:58.7] No action.
03:04:59.4] Thank you.
03:05:00.2] Move to adjourn.
03:05:01.1] Second.
03:05:02.4] There's a motion and a second to adjourn the work session. All in favor?
03:05:05.5] Aye.
03:05:05.6] Aye.
03:05:06.2] Anyone opposed? And the work session for Monday, October 12th,
03:05:10.2] 2026 is adjourned at 12:01 PM. Thank you, Council.