2026-10-07 - City Council

02:59Right.

03:10I'm going to call this meeting of the

03:12city property committee um to order at

03:16556. Clerk, if you can call the roll.

03:21>> Council Kovette

03:22>> here.

03:22>> Council Roujo

03:23>> here.

03:24>> Council Moreno.

03:26>> Two in attendance.

03:27>> Right. Is there any public written

03:29public or anybody signed up for public

03:30comment?

03:32>> No.

03:32>> That's right there.

03:34>> Yeah. No.

03:34>> Anyone online?

03:36>> No.

03:36>> Okay. Council, can you take number two?

03:38>> Item number two is a communication from

03:39Joe Moes, uh, senior budget leader,

03:42Department of Public Works to the

03:43honorable members of Pucket City Council

03:46easement for Island Energy to install an

03:48electric utility pole at 100 freight

03:51street city right of way. Motion is to

03:53take up this communication. It's been

03:56motioned by councelor Rujo, second by

03:57myself, that we take up a communication

03:59from Joe Moren, uh, senior project

04:02manager, Department of Public Works to

04:04the honorable members of the Texas City

04:05Council for an easement for Rhode Island

04:07Energy to install an electric utility

04:09pole at 100 Freight Street City right

04:11away. All in favor of taking up this

04:12communication. I All right, Chris, do

04:17you want to start?

04:18>> Uh, sure. Uh th this is uh regarding the

04:23EV stations that we're going to be

04:25putting out here. We we received a

04:27grant. Um we need to put a electric pole

04:32in uh Rail Energy's asking for an

04:34easement just like kind of like what

04:37they come to the council and the

04:39property committee for any kind of new

04:42um electric pole. Um the only difference

04:46is this is city property that they're

04:49asking for an easement so they'll be

04:52able to come in and maintain the pool.

04:54Um it's going to be right here right at

04:56the you if you're coming into the

04:58building on the right

05:00>> if I'm facing the building towards bra

05:02street basically.

05:03>> Correct.

05:03>> Okay. And how many are there going to

05:04be? They're going to be

05:08I think there's six all together

05:11and we have a grant that um that we

05:14received that we're using for this.

05:17>> Okay. So, well, we also do we have to um

05:22do anything with this communication file

05:23it?

05:24>> No, you can file it when make motion to

05:27file in.

05:28>> Okay. Got that?

05:30>> Yeah.

05:30>> Okay. [laughter]

05:32Um so a couple of things that had been

05:35brought up by um solicos is

05:39it looks here that he's concerned um he

05:43wants he was wondering if he believes

05:45that easement should be expressly

05:46limited to the transformer pad and

05:48conduit route and not the whole entire

05:51lot.

05:52Oh, hi. I was just reading your

05:53communication [laughter]

05:56>> in in

05:58>> He's correct with that. It should be

06:00just for

06:02um

06:04where the poll is located.

06:06>> Okay. We can make a motion to

06:11to address that.

06:13>> It's normally just I apologize. It's

06:15just the path that cuz there is going to

06:17be some underground from the pole to the

06:20transformer. So it's it's strictly

06:24right out here like I said to the right.

06:26>> So it's not really going further into

06:28the lot regardless anyways if No.

06:30>> Okay.

06:31>> Um and then Frank your first point also

06:35did a little bit too which we just got

06:37this Frank so I apologize.

06:38>> That's okay.

06:38>> Uh which it may withhold any reason. The

06:40city might have um the right to relocate

06:42the equipment at its own expense without

06:44consent not unreasonably withheld. I

06:47mean, I I don't really see it happening,

06:49but one never knows. And the way the

06:52lease was I mean, the easement was

06:54currently uh drafted, which I get it's

06:56standard language, I'm sure, on their

06:57part

06:58>> that we have to get permission from

07:00them. And even, you know, it's it's

07:03their discretion 100%. And I don't know,

07:05I can't see the future. What if there is

07:07some need to do it? Yeah,

07:11>> I think we should have that right to do

07:14so.

07:14>> Yeah. And I also agree with your third

07:16comment about some sort of termination

07:18clause.

07:20>> Again, I don't see it happening.

07:21>> No, but to protect ourselves,

07:23>> you know, why why be stuck with a

07:24perpetual leasement on the land?

07:27>> Yeah.

07:27>> So again, as I said, I don't see any of

07:29these as actually, you know, obstructing

07:31the forward progression. They were just

07:33thoughts.

07:34>> Yeah.

07:36>> No. And I think they're fair and make

07:37sense. Any extra language that can

07:39protect ourselves from anything better

07:41than none. Council,

07:44>> is this uh time sensitive? I mean, can

07:46it be?

07:46>> Yeah. Um, yes. The only reason is

07:50originally we were going to go back to

07:52the transferformer

07:54that's in the electrical room. Um, and

07:57then we decided to go this way because

08:00one, it would be safer. We're not

08:02running the electric wires uh

08:04underground or overhead all the way back

08:07to the back room. And it's it's

08:10um safer and and inexpensive uh option

08:14to to put the transformer right out here

08:17and tie in this way. That's that's why

08:19we ended up changing the grant's going

08:22to expire at the end of the year. So, we

08:25have to order the once once it's

08:27approved easement, then we can order the

08:29transformer and then that gives us it's

08:31a tight schedule, but we'll we will be

08:34able to um get the transformer audited

08:37and then all the electric and the pole

08:38installed, but we can't move forward

08:40until the easement's been approved.

08:44So if if we move forward with asking the

08:49solicitor to address these points

08:53possibly with the presidency

08:57nor we don't leave the next meeting

09:02and have it have all these

09:05>> and then send it to council

09:06>> and then send it to council that night.

09:08So, normally we would wait on one one

09:11meeting later to do this, but if we're

09:14comfortable, aside from this, maybe we

09:16request that council Milos u address

09:19these very minor but kind of uh good

09:22protections for the city uh with the uh

09:26with the vendor and then we bring it to

09:28the next meeting and then we bring it

09:29forward council so we're not missing any

09:32time but we can address that city level

09:34book.

09:36>> Is that okay? Like in terms of the

09:38timeline that council first asked like a

09:40few more weeks isn't going to make that

09:42much of a difference, right?

09:44>> Well, it's gonna wait anyway.

09:47>> So, if we turn around and do uh talk to

09:50President Mercer, see if we can do

09:52another property meeting just solely for

09:54this specific thing. We already know the

09:56background. We're just going to be

09:57looking at the language and then we can

10:00bring it forward that night to the

10:01council meeting, but not missing a beat

10:03for Chris.

10:05It it's it's close to be honest because

10:08we're already in October and

10:11>> yeah, but we're not going to be we're

10:12not the council is not going to vote on

10:14it until the second meeting in October.

10:16>> So we do this at the property committee

10:19level and then we bring it right up.

10:22>> Okay. Yeah, that that would be fine.

10:23Yeah.

10:23>> So yeah, it's basically for your

10:25timeline it's right on.

10:27>> Yeah.

10:28>> Does that sound

10:29>> As long as we agrees with the changes.

10:32>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean I I don't know who

10:34the contact person is at national risk

10:36that if somebody gives me that person's

10:38name I can reach out have a quick

10:40conversation and making these amendments

10:42whether it's me or them

10:44>> won't be

10:45>> would not be difficult.

10:46>> All right. So, I'll make a motion to

10:48first file this communication when

10:49discussing and second uh to postpone uh

10:53until the next meeting uh requested for

10:56the second meeting of October of the

10:57property committee meeting so councelor

11:00Milos can address the issues that he

11:02stated in his uh his letter to us.

11:05>> Okay. It's been moved by councelor Roujo

11:07that we um

11:10read order file this communication

11:11right?

11:12>> Yeah. regular and file the communication

11:14from councelor Miles regarding um some

11:18uh language considerations for the

11:20contract for this easement and then in

11:22addition um see those changes at our

11:25next property committee for the second

11:28meeting in October uh to then have a

11:30recommendation issued.

11:33>> Yeah. And and and also I don't know if

11:35we need to add that to it that so it can

11:37be brought forward to the council.

11:39That's

11:39>> we just

11:41we just do it. I mean we as long as you

11:44know Car's okay with it. President's

11:46okay with this.

11:47>> Okay.

11:47>> We can just make sure we roll with it.

11:50>> Okay.

11:50>> Do we need a roll call or just a regular

11:53I?

11:54>> We should do roll call.

11:55>> Okay. So, clerk, if you can call the

11:56role.

11:57>> Council. Yes. Council Roujo.

11:59>> Yes.

11:59>> Two to zero.

12:00>> All right. Uh, councelor Roujo number

12:02three, please.

12:04>> I'm going to take three and four

12:05together. Okay. Item number three is

12:07communication John Mox proprietor

12:09Joshua's LLC EDBA news cafe to the

12:11pirate members of Tucker city council

12:13parking lot lease renewal at 43 North

12:16Street uh and also number four

12:18communication from Michael Cassidy

12:21planning department on the city to the

12:22city uh clerk's office planning

12:25recommendation regarding the renewal of

12:27the lease at 43 Broad Street. My motion

12:30is to file both of these communications

12:32and take both up. It's been moved by

12:34councelor Roujo that we file and take up

12:38a communication from John Mart

12:40proprietor of Joshua's LLC DV8 News Cafe

12:42to the honorable members of Tucket State

12:44Council for parking lot lease renewal at

12:4643 Broad Street and as well as a

12:47communication from Michael Cassidy

12:49planning department to the city clerk's

12:51office planning recommendation regarding

12:53the renewal of the lease at 43 Broad

12:55Street. All in favor of taking filing

12:57and taking up these communications. I

13:00>> All right. Um,

13:03how do you want to start? Uh, is either

13:05John or Michael here before I get

13:07started?

13:07>> John's here.

13:08>> Oh, John.

13:09>> How are you?

13:10>> Hi. Good.

13:12So, um, the lease is up and you would

13:15like a renewal of the parking lot.

13:17>> It's up in October.

13:18>> Okay. And you would like to um, how long

13:22is usually your lease? Five years.

13:24>> Yes. First was three and then we meet

13:27for five the last time, right? 18. And

13:29then in 21 you renew for five more years

13:31to 26.

13:32>> Right. Right. Right. Okay.

13:33>> The reason why it was three because I

13:35realized two of it was a former owner.

13:39>> All right. Um and every obviously um

13:42everything goes well. You're a great

13:44business there. We're you know uh

13:46actually councelor Moreno sent me a

13:48message you know you know that he what

13:51his thoughts were on this and he also

13:53agrees you know obviously you guys don't

13:54give us any issue there or any problems

13:56like that. Um, but I know there is the

13:59communication um from the planning

14:01department if we want to go over that

14:03communication. Um, Michael. Okay.

14:06>> So, nothing against what John's done out

14:08there, taking care of it and that. Um,

14:10it's just that a fiveyear lease locks

14:14the city in to that giving up the

14:18ability to have access to that

14:20particular parking lot for the next five

14:22years. Um, there are a number of things

14:25going on downtown. Um, the Felman

14:27Furniture Building is currently in

14:29renovation. There will be new tenants in

14:31there. Um, the parking lot between the

14:34Felman building and the library, uh, the

14:37library had an agreement with the owners

14:39that they could park there. That's going

14:41to go away. Uh, the library used to park

14:44or h say there was available parking at

14:48the parking lot up by News Cafe. There

14:50are also uh renovations going on in the

14:53building that he's in. um that is going

14:56to create some different uses in there,

14:59potentially some residential as well as

15:01another commercial use. Um we're not

15:04suggesting that we don't let him

15:06continue. We're suggesting that we don't

15:10think you need to give it a five-year

15:11lease. We're suggesting that you give it

15:15a a threemonth lease till the first of

15:18the year. And when the new mayor and new

15:20council are in then and whatever has

15:24transpired between now and the end of

15:26the year as far as those construction

15:28projects go, we'll have a better

15:30understanding of

15:32what the city's needs might be for that

15:35lot or for parts of that lot. Um, so

15:40that's the reason we say don't don't

15:43we're suggesting don't give it a

15:44fiveyear lease. What are the completion

15:47dates for some of these projects that

15:49you have listed?

15:50>> Uh Feldman uh is pretty pretty far

15:53along. Okay. And uh I know at least one

15:57of the businesses is going into the the

16:00building that news cafe and that's

16:02almost ready to be get a certificate of

16:05occupancy. A restaurant is going in

16:06there. And so that's been under

16:08construction for three four months now.

16:12Um, the PBDC is providing some money for

16:14it, I believe. Uh, maybe not.

16:18>> Oh, you're not on there anymore. Okay,

16:20never mind. The PBDC has provided some

16:22money for that. That loan went out five,

16:25six months ago. So, that that's pretty

16:28close to being ready. Uh, so we just

16:31like that to kind of play out a little

16:33bit. Um, it's very likely that we would

16:36want to make sure there were spaces

16:38available during the day and perhaps the

16:41evening for uh library patrons.

16:44>> Yeah,

16:45>> particularly during the day.

16:47>> What is I can't remember. We just did

16:48this too, but when is Nexus taking those

16:50spots back? When did we do for the

16:53library? Can't remember.

16:54>> They only did a six-month lease.

16:56>> An extension was six months, right?

16:58I think that was and yeah

17:00>> because it was ending

17:02>> what something was going to happen in

17:03February.

17:04>> Yeah. The So yes, so the library is

17:06losing that those parking spaces

17:09>> soon.

17:10>> Yeah.

17:10>> So

17:12>> and and what I will add for context as

17:14well is that because right there Broad

17:16Street um area, not so much where News

17:19Cafe is, but across the street is my

17:21district. I have heard a lot from the

17:23post office and their parking situation

17:27for employees.

17:28>> Oh yes.

17:29>> Um especially with the construction of

17:32more residential buildings and the lots

17:33they typically would park in now being

17:35built up. And so I have heard from

17:38>> the library manager, not library

17:41manager, I'm sorry, post office manager

17:42that they're concerned about parking

17:44even just for employees.

17:45>> Yes. Um, so I just wanted to add just

17:48from the perspective of some of my

17:50businesses in my district that that was

17:52is a concern of theirs as well.

17:54>> Yeah, there is the other city parking

17:57lot on Broad Street across from

17:58Walgreens. Yeah.

17:59>> Um, the post office approached the city

18:02a couple times about selling it to them

18:04so they could use it for their

18:05employees. Um, we declined to do that.

18:09This happened a number of years ago.

18:11Don't forget I've been around here a

18:12long time. uh and uh we declined to do

18:15that, but I know that the employees do

18:18park in there, which is fine, but there

18:20was a lot of construction guys parking

18:22in there when the new project was being

18:25built on Dexter. That project's done.

18:27So, that lot has been freed up.

18:30>> So, uh but it always has been an issue

18:33with the post office that they want

18:36their guys to park their cars and get in

18:37the post office trucks.

18:39>> Yeah.

18:40>> Uh and they don't have a lot of spaces

18:41up there.

18:42>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean I find it like one of

18:44those um double-edged sword swords where

18:47we're so happy to see the buildup,

18:49right, of things happening in that

18:51everybody

18:52>> and those taxes that we're getting.

18:53>> Yeah. But then situations like this

18:56arise where we go, where do all these

18:57people go?

18:58>> We never have enough parking spaces.

19:00>> Rich, any questions?

19:03>> Well, 3 months looks like it's kind of a

19:06very small window um

19:10to me. I mean, as these kind of things

19:12come to fruition, and when we deal with

19:15construction projects, a lot of times

19:16they don't go on time. Maybe they will

19:19be because of

19:21um the thing that gives me a little

19:22pause is 3 months is a long time for a

19:25long time tenant. And I know we got

19:26other things going on, too. So, I'm

19:28trying to find a balance here. Um you

19:31know, even be a little more comfortable

19:33even if it was like six months to give

19:35give a half a year, right? So, this way,

19:38>> um it gives Mr. and his, you know,

19:40company who's been a very good tenant in

19:42the city.

19:42>> Absolutely.

19:43>> Um, a little more time wiggle room

19:45because

19:46>> three months holiday time, a lot of

19:48things going on by that time. Now, we've

19:50got to figure out, you know, some of the

19:51parking issues, but we also got to take

19:53care of the projects that we're doing.

19:55And I understand that. Um, I just think

19:573 months is a little short of a window.

20:00Um,

20:01>> and then monthto monthth after six

20:02months.

20:03>> Yeah. You know, maybe we could do it

20:04that way. So, there's some

20:05insuranceances for a half a year. um you

20:08know just because again there's an

20:10eightyear history uh of uh of of under

20:14his leadership of of being a really

20:16outstanding tenant.

20:17>> I've been here 16.

20:18>> No, I know. I'm just going by

20:21the last thing the you know the three

20:23years and the eight that's why I'm going

20:25by what I have.

20:25>> No. And yeah, you have been a good

20:27community partner. So I I understand

20:29what you're saying is like if we have a

20:31chance to give back a little bit at this

20:33moment for something like this, it's

20:35>> just that, you know, gives another three

20:36months, three while the dust settles on

20:39what we're doing, we still can go to

20:40monthto month and then at that point,

20:42you know, if we find out that we can

20:44keep things status quo, then maybe we

20:46come back and we visit

20:48>> there's an update on some of those

20:49projects.

20:49>> Yeah. Reapply for that, right?

20:51>> Yeah. if we need parking for the

20:52library. They used to be like they were

20:55entitled to five spots or something in

20:57that lot during the day. But I mean

20:59those kinds of issues we could

21:01>> Is that for the employees or people

21:03visiting?

21:03>> Uh people visiting.

21:05>> I mean how long people have been parking

21:07there visiting the library?

21:10>> I'm sorry. Hi.

21:11>> For the last 60 years I've been there.

21:13Yeah.

21:13>> People always park there to go to the

21:15library.

21:15>> Right. Yes. And I'm not suggesting and

21:17I've never set the library a bill. No.

21:19And I'm not suggesting that

21:22>> he's not. I'm just saying that, you

21:25know, there's

21:26>> we want to make sure we have all the

21:27loose ends and an understanding of what

21:30the needs are out there so that we can

21:33we can make best use of that parking lot

21:37with John taking care of it.

21:39>> Yeah. And then realistically, how much

21:42notice could you give him that that

21:43there's going to be a change? Let's say

21:45the six month is coming up, right?

21:47>> Yeah. Is this going to be something that

21:50you know let's say the six month is

21:51coming up and then you'll know like hey

21:53we have two or three months or if it's

21:55going to happen at the six months can

21:56you give him a two-month notice like

21:58what realistically notice

22:00>> I agree with what you said is giving him

22:02six months and then a month a month

22:04after that so we would give him enough

22:06notice

22:06>> a month

22:07>> uh that ahead of time uh because I don't

22:10think there's going to be any drastic

22:12changes to the use of the lot it's only

22:14going to be the parking lot so just a

22:16matter of how

22:17maybe divvied up or configured or who

22:20might have potential use of some spots

22:23there uh under some kind of an

22:25agreement. Well, the problem with that

22:27is my I mean it's going to be very hard

22:28for me to sign a new lease um on monthto

22:31month there new lease with the landlord

22:35at the news cafe.

22:36>> Okay.

22:37>> I will not sign a lease without the

22:39parking lot.

22:40>> Okay. When's your lease up?

22:42>> June.

22:43>> Okay.

22:43>> Okay. So, that's

22:44>> Well, you got time. That's six, seven,

22:48>> nine months. So, do you

22:50>> do you do you feel comfort level to nine

22:52months? So, that's

22:53>> to cover up to his lease.

22:56>> Well, yeah, but that doesn't help him

22:57because when his lease is up, he wants

22:59to make sure he's already got

23:01>> it under under control. So, in six

23:03months,

23:04>> in six months, within a month, a month

23:06in six months, we can say, "Okay, here's

23:08what we're going to try and do with this

23:09lot. Here's the libraries

23:12it their agreement with Felman is up.

23:15You know, how do we want to do if

23:17anything with that? I know that library

23:19patrons at night and the weekends park

23:21in the Y block right across the street.

23:24Yeah. Because nobody's there. So, I

23:25mean, I need to have a conversation with

23:27library about, you know, what their

23:29needs are when they lose the Feldman

23:32block.

23:32>> Now, how many spots for the library do

23:35you have?

23:35>> I I don't know.

23:37>> I That's what I'm saying. We don't know.

23:38They may say to me, "Don't worry about

23:40it. We don't we don't it's not for our

23:42staff. People park across the street

23:45because there's not enough cars in in

23:47the Y going there." All

23:48>> about a year year and a half ago and

23:50they said they're all set.

23:51>> Yeah. Well, that's because they have a

23:53contract to use the Felman lot next door

23:56>> which goes away when the new

23:58>> prop.

23:59>> And Michael, let me ask you this

24:00question. And have the conversations

24:02been brought up and I know we brought it

24:03up during the library conversations

24:05about their lease is obviously we are

24:08transitioning here and like the lot

24:11space available in the city lot itself

24:13and

24:14>> that's up for conversation.

24:15>> That's that's right. That's up that's

24:17would be included in our discussion.

24:19Okay. Because we built a set of stairs

24:21there so you can park it city the

24:23library employees park in the city hall

24:26lot. Yeah.

24:27>> And so the public can also park there

24:29and go up the stairs. So, yes. So,

24:31there's some options that may open up on

24:35this end of downtown from the library as

24:37opposed to that end of downtown from the

24:39library.

24:39>> We're just not there yet.

24:40>> We're just not there yet.

24:41>> Okay. Absolutely.

24:42>> And what when's the maximum capacity of

24:44that parking lot needed by times? It's

24:46at night or is it the whole day, too?

24:49>> Day and night.

24:50>> Day and night.

24:50>> I mean, at night I mean a fest night is

24:53a zoo there.

24:54>> So, yeah. Right.

24:55>> Yeah. You know, it's you know people

24:57double pocket but somebody's got to be

24:58there.

24:59>> Yeah. That can never be a public lot.

25:00Well, it could be. It would create a lot

25:02of a lot of problems at night

25:04>> because they know people are not happy.

25:06You pocket back when they come out, they

25:08have a few drinks, they all got

25:09attitude.

25:10>> Somebody's got to move their car. Yes.

25:12>> Thank God the other vibe there anymore.

25:13That was a war zone.

25:15>> Mhm.

25:15>> I mean, I need a I mean, I need a

25:17bulletproof vest when they

25:19>> That was just crazy. But

25:21>> so I think I think

25:22>> it just can't be run. You know, whoever

25:25runs it has to be there.

25:27>> Understand? I understand. And I nothing

25:30absolutely nothing how he's been doing

25:32with this and what he's doing with it

25:34and his the potential for him to

25:36continue doing that.

25:37>> We just said five years is a long time

25:39to lock into this when we have a lot of

25:42unknowns right at the moment and in the

25:44next six to nine months.

25:46>> Okay. So council well what are your

25:49thoughts about doing a six month from

25:51now and revisiting the conversation?

25:54Yeah, we could do that. And I think we

25:57could still do a sixmonth and then a

25:59month-to-month lease. Approve that now

26:02with the stipulation that Mr. Mox can

26:04come back in in six months after the

26:06conversations have been had. So maybe

26:08there can be more exploratory and doing

26:09a longer idea.

26:11>> Yeah. Yep.

26:12>> He obviously deserves to have a clearer

26:14picture of

26:14>> That's right. Absolutely.

26:15>> Yes.

26:16>> Does that sound

26:17>> Yeah, it's fine. The restaurant next

26:18door I'm really working we're really

26:21working together to make some spots,

26:23>> you know. Okay.

26:24>> Yeah.

26:24>> I mean, I'm not out there to kill

26:26anybody.

26:28Anybody wants to play business, that's

26:30why we're trying to work.

26:31>> Yeah. We're not we're not suggesting

26:33that either that he's not been

26:34cooperative or that we we don't think we

26:36can work something out if somebody else

26:38>> at the end of the day, we only have so

26:39many spots.

26:41>> And I think ultimately I think the six

26:43month lease just bene right now is the

26:45benefit of having a clearer picture of

26:48what it's going to look like down the

26:49line. um and not sort of lock everybody

26:52in and then we come to six months and we

26:54go, "Oh, shoot. That was probably not a

26:56great idea." So, I I think um

26:58>> yeah, that's all that's all we're asking

27:00for. That's the only that's our only

27:02suggestion.

27:02>> And that month um we must have to put a

27:06sunset in there, right? I mean,

27:07>> it could be tenants at will. Quite frank

27:10once a lease is up there, tenants at

27:12will.

27:12>> Yeah. Like residential, like unless you

27:13sign a new lease, they're just there.

27:15So,

27:16>> so do do you want me to I was going to

27:18wait until everyone was done uh

27:20deliberating on it.

27:22>> So, it sounds like what you're really

27:23looking for me to do is just a very

27:25straightforward lease extension that

27:28would again extend the lease from when

27:31it's coming to film, which is October

27:3326, 2026 through should we say April

27:3630th, 2027 as opposed to the 2 uh the

27:3926th.

27:40>> That makes sense. And then basically

27:41language that says for the most part all

27:44provisions in the current lease will

27:46remain in force and effect including the

27:48$100 per month rent. And then I could

27:51put some language that basically

27:53expressly talks about that if the

27:56parties have not entered into a new

27:59written lease agreement by say April

28:0130th 2027 then the tenency shall

28:04continue on a month-to-month basis. And

28:05I'll put some conditions that way at

28:08least have something to bring back. Do

28:10do you want this back to the committee

28:12once I drafted this uh extension or do

28:17you want to put it on the docket?

28:18>> Put it on the docket so this way we get

28:20it done in time because it's 26, you

28:22know. So

28:23>> you're going to have a property

28:26committee meeting. Yeah, that's fine.

28:28Yes. Yes. Yes. That's right. That's

28:29right.

28:29>> Comes back here and you take a quick

28:31look at it here too and that's probably

28:32and then we cross. Yes. Yeah, that's

28:34right. Cross the Oh, no. Cross the tea.

28:38And then Rick, do we need to put

28:41anything now on record for coming back

28:44in six months?

28:45>> No, because he always has the right to

28:47come back.

28:47>> Yeah, John will be knocking on our door.

28:49>> Okay.

28:51>> Come April 1st, he's going to be

28:52knocking on our door saying,

28:54>> "Hey, what's going on?"

28:55>> We didn't go to him

28:57>> when it was over now. He came out. He'll

28:59do the he'll do the same thing.

29:00>> Yeah. Okay. I am I'm comfort comfortable

29:04with that. So I'll make the motion as uh

29:06councelor Mosa stated that uh we come up

29:10with a lease agreement to extend till

29:13April 30th and at that point conditions

29:15to be a monthto month um and to bring it

29:19back to the property committee uh the

29:20next meeting in October. So, it's been

29:23moved by councelor Rouger, second by

29:25myself that we do a lease extension with

29:28the news cafe until April 30th, 2027

29:32with then them being tenants at will

29:34with all conditions remaining from

29:35lease. Yep. Upon approval and then um

29:40bringing that updated lease uh to the

29:42property committee for the second

29:44meeting in for approval in the second

29:47meeting of um October.

29:50Clerk, if you can call the role, please.

29:52Council SCA. Yes. Council Roujo.

29:54>> Yes.

29:55>> Two to zero.

29:57Motion to

29:58>> All right. It's been a motion to adjourn

30:00this sitting property committee meeting

30:02at 6:22. All in favor? I. This meeting

30:05is adjourned.

34:15Call to order tomorrow committee of

34:17claims append

34:20call please

34:21>> 626

34:22>> two contract district 627

34:24>> 627 sorry about that

34:28councelor Rubio

34:30>> here councelor Arusa yes councelor

34:32Moreno

34:34two attend.

34:35>> Any public input? [clears throat]

34:37>> Right. No public input. Uh councelor,

34:40can you please take up number item

34:42number two?

34:43>> All right. So, as it reads, all claims

34:45pertaining to benefit street. Is this

34:47something um still should take it in?

34:49>> Well, we put them all together so you

34:50could do them all because it's one

34:52project that everybody hit.

34:54>> Okay.

34:54>> So, you can really take them all

34:56together. is

34:57>> being referred to.

34:58>> Maybe all of them except

35:01one only because it was a fence.

35:04>> Yeah, I I didn't Well, I say that only

35:06because I don't think I have Did I have

35:08a field inspection report on all of

35:10them? Rick

35:10>> the one we take

35:12>> with the field inspection on all these,

35:14right?

35:14>> Yes.

35:16>> Well, we could just do Thank you, Lena.

35:20Well, no. Actually, you know something.

35:21The question that I had and maybe Chris

35:23knows the answer is

35:27it was unclear to me whether it was a

35:30Vagro truck or if it was a city truck.

35:34Are we

35:35>> Can Chris?

35:38Yeah.

35:39>> But if he says it's Vanagra, then I

35:41think you can do all of them.

35:42>> Okay.

35:42>> At the same time.

35:43>> Okay, sir.

35:44>> I'll just try to make it simpler.

35:47process. This is the whole we kept

35:48looking at him and saying this is this

35:51is the same thing and this is the same

35:52thing.

35:52>> Last week we did it so bad

35:55>> to get redone too. It just seemed like

35:57it took a little longer for them.

35:59>> But we're not it's not talking.

36:01>> Yeah. So

36:05>> only because even the description of the

36:07claim says possible city vehicle court.

36:09That was that was the claims,

36:12>> but then it carried over to the field

36:13inspection report despite the fact they

36:15still recommended referring it to Vagro.

36:19I just want to make sure that we're on

36:21the same page and it was actually a

36:25>> Vagro.

36:27>> You guys can start while

36:29>> Yeah, maybe do those first and then

36:30>> Yeah, before that's what I'm thinking.

36:34>> There he is.

36:35>> I'm sorry.

36:38Okay. I'm I'm sorry. What was the

36:40question?

36:41>> The one claim where there was a truck

36:44fence

36:46up at them

36:48>> that chain link fence torn up grass

36:50>> benefit street.

36:55We'll just take the four up. Okay. Uh

36:57item number two, all claims pertaining

36:59to benefit street. I would like to take

37:00the following ones up together. The

37:02first one, two, three, four. Carrie Cord

37:06Cardoso for $350.14

37:09for a tire. Courtney Peter for $62312

37:14for a manhole. Ryan Bedro for $374.71

37:19for a manhole. And Timothy Pico III for

37:23$1,717.78

37:25vehicle deal. I'd like to take all of

37:27these claims up together. That is obeyed

37:30by councelor Rubio, second by council

37:32Rubio that we take up items item number

37:35two minus Karen

37:39>> any

37:43so obviously this was uh this was

37:46happening on benefit street which as

37:49most people know in that area was torn

37:51up um and they were redoing it and was

37:55the vendor

37:57>> and in all of the um inspection reports

38:02um was saying that it was during this

38:04time period. So I would like to make a

38:07motion to deny all four of them and

38:10referred each and every claimment here

38:13um to Scott Campbell of Corporation.

38:17Items been uh I'm sorry

38:22>> motion's been made by council rub second

38:23by councel group that we deny the

38:26following Harry Cardoso Courtney Peter

38:29Ryan Budro Timothy Pacheco and uh denied

38:32refer to Vagro

38:35please

38:36>> chairman Rubio council

38:38>> yes

38:40>> uh the next claim is for cavata uh for

38:43$1,172.50

38:45or 20

38:4729.80

38:48property damage. My motion is to take

38:50this clean up.

38:51>> It has been made by councelor Rubio,

38:53second by councelor Rubio that we take

38:54up sata for the amount for property

38:57damage.

38:59Any discussion on this item?

39:04>> Uh I I I

39:06believe the question was was this a a

39:08city vehicle or uh contract venro?

39:13It wasn't a city vehicle. I know they

39:15mentioned

39:16>> Sorry, you said it was not

39:17>> It was not a city vehicle.

39:20>> So that's why we said refer it to

39:22>> That's what I did, but I just wanted to

39:24be sure because the inspection report

39:26kind of

39:26>> Yes.

39:28So based on the information given to us

39:31from director, I'm going to make a

39:33motion to deny parents uh playing in two

39:37different amounts and refer the claimant

39:40to Scott Campbell of

39:45>> Motion made by councelor, second by

39:47councelor Ruba that we deny Kapata for

39:49both amounts for property damage denied

39:52and referred to Vacro.

39:54Is it Vanro cooperation or just The nag

39:58>> public call.

39:59>> Yeah.

40:00>> Just wasn't sure if we had to sit at

40:02all.

40:02>> No.

40:05>> In the minutes we'll have it.

40:06>> All right. Will they call roll please?

40:09>> Chairman Rubio. Yes. Councelor Rio. Yes.

40:11Two to zero.

40:12>> Item number three city of the first one

40:14is for Chevy Marshall in the amount of

40:17$266.19

40:19for our time. My motion is to take the

40:20claim off.

40:20>> Motion made by councelor Ra. Second by

40:22councelor Ra that we take up vehicle

40:24claims. Um the Sher Marshall

40:29want discussion.

40:31>> Well, the um incident report says um

40:34that it was on a railroad uh that was

40:38maintained by Parliament Worcester

40:40Railroad

40:41um and that this responsibility of the

40:43city should not be directed um and it

40:46shouldn't be the responsibility of the

40:48city and should be directed forever. Um

40:52I think I'm going to make a motion on

40:54that. Do you feel same thing? Okay. All

40:57right. So, we're going to make a motion

40:59to deny uh Sharie Msho's claim and refer

41:03a claimant to the father's lab.

41:07Motion has been made by councelor Rio,

41:08second by councelor Rubio that we deny

41:11Sherry Marshall for the amount of

41:12$266.19

41:15for a tire

41:17and that we refer them to the Providence

41:19Worcester Railroad.

41:21Call roll, please.

41:25Chairman Chairman Rubio,

41:26>> yes.

41:27>> Council Roua,

41:28>> yes.

41:28>> Two to zero.

41:29>> Cody Teres by progressive subluggation

41:33$1,3183

41:37buy a vehicle. Motion is to take this

41:38claim up.

41:39>> It has been movement made by councelor

41:40Rojo, second by councelor Rubio that we

41:44take up Cody to bars by progressive

41:46support fee

41:47>> segregation

41:48>> segregation for the amount of 1,31,83

41:52by a vehicle. Any discussion on this

42:00>> uh

42:01>> well it

42:02>> that's sir

42:06>> so

42:07>> let's claim the city is at fault

42:09>> right

42:14>> I don't have a field inspection report

42:17on this one is there one

42:20the the allegation is that a

42:24you have an email from Chief Chasel.

42:27>> Yeah. Say it wasn't referred to us

42:31>> uh struck a vehicle taking a tight turn

42:35from good street onto blood street spot

42:38and I thought we had clearance to

42:40complete the turn as I was turning to

42:41avoid driving through the snowbank and

42:44hitting the telephone pole as much as

42:46possible. ended up striking a pocked cop

42:49that is parked on the street due to not

42:51having enough food to complete my turn.

42:54So basically,

42:56>> but he's admitting that it was our

42:58fault.

42:58>> What's the parking ban in effect at that

43:00point?

43:04>> Nothing that I

43:06>> What's the date?

43:09Uh, the date of the occurrence was uh

43:15>> 92 February

43:16>> 9 2026 at 1:30 a.m.

43:20>> I can look quick if you give me a minute

43:24of snow that day. I know, you know, it

43:26could be that it was just the bank or

43:28the snow bank and it was, you know, some

43:30plow snow, but just to make sure we

43:33>> Yeah, if it turns out that there was not

43:35and that the car was legally parked

43:37there, it was unactive. I This isn't a

43:39situation we moving vehicle that might

43:41have had some obligation to pull over

43:44because there was a fire apparatus

43:46coming through. So assuming again that

43:48uh the there's no issue relative to

43:52where the car was parked, it would seem

43:54to me that just based on what you read a

43:56few minutes ago, we are comfortable

43:58review for this.

44:04>> Uh February 9th, you said

44:06>> at 1:30 a.m.

44:07>> Uh no, we we had a storm February 7th.

44:10>> So that was legally there.

44:13>> Yes.

44:14>> So when do we have a motion? Yeah, just

44:16one other question. Yeah, when that's

44:19$1,300.

44:21When it comes to deductibles and stuff,

44:23do they remember when we talk about

44:24that?

44:24>> We did. We researched this about maybe a

44:27year and a half, two years ago. What we

44:29discovered is that there's actually a

44:31statute, Rhode Island General,

44:35and there's actually a regulation in the

44:37code that basically says it is the

44:40insurers's actual responsibility to put

44:43in a claim that actually includes the

44:46deductible. Okay.

44:47>> And so they've done that. The 1301.83

44:52encompasses, from what I can see, the

44:55entirety of the repair. So the insurance

44:57company paid out $3183,

45:00but there was a $1,000 deductible. So in

45:03this instance, what we would probably do

45:05if the committee approves the full

45:06amount, and I don't really see where

45:08there's comparative fault here, we would

45:11basically process this either one check

45:14signed by both or two separate releases,

45:18but we would probably want to get

45:19release from both the insured and the

45:23insurer.

45:24>> So do we when we make this motion then

45:26do we have to state such that you do

45:29that or is that just a process that you

45:30follow?

45:31>> That would be the process. I think that

45:32we filed. You're basically approving the

45:34claim that's before you from the

45:36insurance company that is uh subregating

45:39in this particular matter and again has

45:41the statutory obligation to include the

45:43deductible.

45:43>> So I will make a motion to approve the

45:46um claim of Cody Travales by progressive

45:49subligation uh of 13

45:53>> $1,318

45:56buy a vehicle. Motion's been made by

45:58councelor Rio, second by councelor Rubio

46:00that we approve cody to bars by

46:02progressive subrigation for the amount

46:05of 1,31 with 83 cents for a fire

46:08schedule. Please call roio

46:12council rujo.

46:13>> Yes.

46:13>> Two to zero.

46:14>> Uh and Antonio Ramos and Gresen do

46:18Santos $2,100 for vehicle damage. Motion

46:21to take off.

46:22>> Motion made by councelor Rudo, second by

46:24councelor Rubio that we take up an

46:27travels in person Los Santos for the

46:30amount of $2,100 for vehicle damage.

46:35>> Do you have any

46:38>> It looks like it's It looks like it's

46:40cutting your eye. It was um our fault.

46:45So, at that point, I I don't think

46:47there's any any argument to say

46:49otherwise. So, I would make a motion to

46:51approve the claim of Antonia Ramos and

46:55Gerson Dos Santos for $2,100.

46:58>> I have one question about this.

47:02>> Are they just subject to submit one

47:05invoice?

47:08>> We've gone back and forth with this. No,

47:11no, we've gone back and forth in this

47:12over the years.

47:14>> Most claims is supposed to be two. It's

47:16supposed to be tube, but with cars

47:19because people have to get their car

47:21fixed and because they've it's it's so

47:25hard to get a company now to do a you

47:29know

47:31to give to give them the the amount that

47:35if they get it fixed then we would

47:37accept they've been accepting the bill

47:40to um as sufficient

47:44>> in this case, it looks like the invoice

47:47was paid.

47:49>> And even our own claim form says you

47:51must submit less than before a paid

47:54bill. So in this case, it looks like

47:56they did submit the paid bill.

47:57>> Okay. All right.

47:58>> Now, that's again, that's up to you if

48:01you want to continue to do that. That's

48:02your call. That's that was just a thing

48:05because the problem we were having is

48:06people were having car car damage and

48:09they were trying to get two estimates

48:10and they and companies now will give

48:12them the estimate. They won't give it an

48:14estimate unless they agreed to bring it

48:16there for the for the business.

48:17>> I think that's a fair point.

48:19>> And so this is when they started doing

48:21this.

48:22>> I'd love to get two estimates, but

48:23people need the vehicles now. So I get

48:25it.

48:26>> So are you saying this is just the case

48:27for vehicle damage?

48:29>> Yes.

48:31>> All right. Motion's been made by

48:32councelor, second by councelor Ruba that

48:34we approve

48:37and vers for the amount of $2,100 for

48:40vehicle damage.

48:42Colorado place.

48:44>> Ter Rubio.

48:46>> Yes. Conjo to zero.

48:48>> No further.

48:50No problems.

1:05:00So, I see that I have people that have

1:05:02joined

1:05:04um at this time. If you're interested in

1:05:06get public input this evening, please

1:05:08raise your hand by using the raise hand

1:05:11at the bottom of your screen.

1:05:15Yes, I do see one. Um,

1:05:20thank you.

1:05:30to get to it.

1:05:34>> All right.

1:05:38>> Good evening. Welcome to our more

1:05:41permanent

1:05:42uh town chambers here on Freight Street.

1:05:45We're not quite sure what's going to the

1:05:47future holds for city hall, but we're

1:05:49going to be here for quite some time

1:05:51while we figure that out and anything

1:05:53else that's done. So, um, we welcome

1:05:57you. We're going to kind of have to work

1:05:59out a few bugs. It's a little bit set

1:06:00up, a little bit different technology.

1:06:02So, bear with us if we run into a couple

1:06:05hiccups. Um, but on to that, we after

1:06:08that, we are now on public input. We've

1:06:11got one bit of public input I have to

1:06:14just introduce that came via email from

1:06:17a Miss Maddie Weeden regarding the

1:06:20Harmony dog kennel. Uh we've got four

1:06:23people in person and one person online.

1:06:26So we will get right to it. Uh Mr.

1:06:28Michael Pompilly.

1:06:32Mr. Pilly, how are you?

1:06:34>> Doing good, thank you.

1:06:36>> It's uh congratulations on new chambers.

1:06:40We'll see. Yeah. Uh so this this comment

1:06:42is more for the city hall building

1:06:44committee. Uh since they haven't met in

1:06:46nearly eight months, I guess the grand

1:06:48oak uh new council chambers seems like

1:06:51just as good a time to discuss this. We

1:06:54have spent $14 million to purchase this

1:06:57building and apparently another $8

1:06:59million just on the first phase of

1:07:01renovation.

1:07:02Uh as we found out at the last council

1:07:04meeting, bids are for another phase uh

1:07:07later this month and untold more phases

1:07:10are yet to come. I'll take it face value

1:07:13that was presented that this is the

1:07:15temporary B city

1:07:17uh to allow us more time to decide what

1:07:19to do at city hall and that that

1:07:21absolutely isn't a facade to hide the

1:07:23fact that long-term decisions were

1:07:25already made behind closed doors.

1:07:27Through the process of evaluating city

1:07:29hall, public's been told repeatedly that

1:07:31the cost to renovate city hall into a

1:07:33state-of-the-art facility would be $100

1:07:36million. The committee went out for more

1:07:38bids, and now it'll only cost $92.3

1:07:42million to renovate

1:07:44our facility. These conversations have

1:07:47never included the cost of renovating

1:07:48this building as a comparison. In the

1:07:50public's perception, this move is

1:07:52practically free. The conversations

1:07:54haven't even included the cost of just

1:07:56repairing city hall tower and not

1:07:58creating a state-of-the-art facility

1:08:00within the walls of the building.

1:08:02Between the purchase price of this

1:08:03building and and the initial phase of

1:08:05renovations, we've already spent $22

1:08:07million on these temporary quarters. In

1:08:102023, before the city hall building

1:08:12review committee was formed and without

1:08:14any other estimates being collected,

1:08:16Downs Construction reported the cost of

1:08:18repairing

1:08:20tower including costs to maintain people

1:08:24building would be drum roll $22 million.

1:08:28I appreciate that city hall workers

1:08:32I just lost my There we go. Um, I

1:08:35appreciate the city hall workers and

1:08:36visitors need and healthy environment

1:08:38and that this is certainly nicer than

1:08:40the uh the back rooms in what we call

1:08:42the temporary a facility.

1:08:46But perhaps the largest public facing

1:08:48government office in the DMV was in the

1:08:51apex building for six years. It wasn't

1:08:54this built out. If this move is truly

1:08:56temporary, maybe the scope should be

1:08:58scaled back a bit to reign in cost so

1:08:59our next administr afford to keep the

1:09:02center of our government in its iconic

1:09:04building in its transit accessible

1:09:06location. If this relocation is actually

1:09:08intended to be permanent, then cost

1:09:10estimates for this phase and future

1:09:12phases should be shared with the public

1:09:14so we know what we're actually spending

1:09:16uh to abandon City Hall. Thank you.

1:09:18Thank you, Miss Montilly. Uh Jason

1:09:22Espazito.

1:09:26Mr. Espazito, how are you?

1:09:28>> Well, and yourself. I'm fine, thank you.

1:09:30Thank you for your time. Um, you give me

1:09:33about an hour.

1:09:36Uh, my name is Jason Espazito. I

1:09:38representing that New England Tractor

1:09:39and Trailer Trading School. It is a

1:09:41trade school. Don't don't be mistaken by

1:09:43the name. It is a trade school with two

1:09:45different programs, CDL and HVAC

1:09:47programs. Uh this school has been

1:09:49established in in uh in the Pucket area

1:09:52and and especially in Rhode Island for

1:09:53the last 42 years. Third generation

1:09:56owned uh trade school um started by Bob

1:09:59the grandfather Mark took it over and uh

1:10:02more recently in about two and a half

1:10:04years Sam his daughter who is continuing

1:10:07the legacy to keep this school running.

1:10:09We are on 600 Mashes Valley Industrial

1:10:11Highway. It's a mouthful, but just like

1:10:14that, um it seems to be avoided by um

1:10:17the police and patrolling the area. I've

1:10:21worked hard to uh get signs out and this

1:10:24is a parking issue by the way. Um

1:10:27students,

1:10:28mostly the students we deal with about

1:10:3075% of our are in instate. Uh we do have

1:10:34some um you know transients and whatnot

1:10:36but uh parking has been an issue. Uh you

1:10:39know especially in the past u I would

1:10:42say year and a half it's been

1:10:43overwhelming. Um the last uh last year

1:10:46we had a really big snowfall. We all

1:10:48remember that we were stuck for a

1:10:49minute. Well those trucks on the road

1:10:51were stuck for days, weeks. Um it cost

1:10:54the school about $10,000 to remove all

1:10:56the snow uh just to get our students to

1:10:58come to school. We do not shut down

1:11:00school. We don't and these people are

1:11:02paid customers and so we want to make

1:11:04sure we're fulfilling [laughter] our

1:11:05commitment to be open. Um to go back to

1:11:08that, we've seen obstructions. I've seen

1:11:10um some terrible acts. Uh I've watched

1:11:13people wash their vehicles, motor oil

1:11:16and all that stuff hits the street. Um

1:11:19it's been aructure for our students. You

1:11:21know, we want to train them in real

1:11:22time, but when the trucks are parked,

1:11:24these are brand new drivers. They can't

1:11:26even see down the street. Um, at night

1:11:28it's god awful. Um, can I interrupt you?

1:11:31Just one second, Jason. So, these are

1:11:33not any these are not tracked,

1:11:37>> correct? These are other vehicles

1:11:40parked.

1:11:40>> I'm sorry. Yes. To clarify,

1:11:42>> the industrial parkway there. Okay. So,

1:11:44I'm sorry. So, we have 500 600 Marsh

1:11:47on the outside of the fence. Any vehicle

1:11:49on the outside of the fence is not owned

1:11:51by Nets. Okay. And there might have been

1:11:52some mis mis thoughts over the past

1:11:55years that there are trucks. They are

1:11:56not our vehicles. Every vehicle we own

1:11:58is on the inside of our property. The

1:12:00only parking that we allow that we want

1:12:03on the outside of the fence is our

1:12:04student parking employees if need be,

1:12:06but so be it. So any vehicle commercial

1:12:08vehicle on the outside outside of our

1:12:10property is nothing to do with nets.

1:12:12They they take advantage of uh the

1:12:14ability to park there for free. Um as a

1:12:16business owner, if you're legit, you

1:12:18have to park inside of a property. It's

1:12:20secured or whatnot. Um but going back to

1:12:22that so between you know you know

1:12:25working on their vehicles washing their

1:12:26vehicles I've called the the multiple

1:12:29times in the act to kind of curtail this

1:12:32behavior um and um you know when it goes

1:12:35back to obstructions students they have

1:12:37to deal with a lot um overall um

1:12:41obviously Nets has been around I want to

1:12:43expand we're looking at putting extra

1:12:45facilities on top like module buildings

1:12:47bigger bigger programs but I'm afraid

1:12:49because I don't know how to park

1:12:51vehicle. Um the parking is available for

1:12:54students, but it's taken by a truck. You

1:12:56think about one vehicle, a tractor

1:12:58trailer is roughly about 70 some odd

1:13:00feet. It only takes a few to take up all

1:13:02that parking, and that's five or six of

1:13:04our vehicles are for our students. So,

1:13:06it's been a nuisance. Um I've only been

1:13:08with the company about a year and a

1:13:09half. Uh, but we have

1:13:12and since I've been there, I've been

1:13:13trying to do this and I have the the

1:13:16backing of the company to make sure that

1:13:17we expand and do these things, but we

1:13:19need the help of this of the city to do

1:13:21this. Um, and not to mention, I mean,

1:13:23there's a million different stories, the

1:13:25environmental problems, I mean, we

1:13:27walked the streets the other day and the

1:13:29stuff you see on the other side of the

1:13:30railings. So, where these vehicles are,

1:13:32they they create, you know, you know,

1:13:35hideway for the the bad guys, you know,

1:13:37to do bad things. you know, the Euro

1:13:38bottles get tossed over the fence, the

1:13:40tires, the vehicle, who knows how much

1:13:42diesel could be done. I've watched

1:13:44people do oil changes out of the street.

1:13:46Now, this is not how it's supposed to

1:13:47be, especially in a commercial vehicle.

1:13:49God forbid one of our trucks, which

1:13:51happened last year, got into an accident

1:13:54and diesel starts pouring out, I have to

1:13:56recoup that fuel. I have to pay a ton of

1:13:58money to get rid of it. And some of

1:13:59these people are not following those

1:14:01rules and regulations. So, um,

1:14:02environmentally, it's it's just out of

1:14:04control. So, um,

1:14:07so yeah, I felt it. I'll just mention I

1:14:10know that's in council's district and

1:14:13she has two items on the on the agenda

1:14:15tonight. One is specifically on point

1:14:18with this that she intends to try to

1:14:20address this for you and the folks who

1:14:22live in in Galgo Court and uh we we have

1:14:26some ordinances already in place and I

1:14:28think she's gonna try to make use of

1:14:31those.

1:14:32>> Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for

1:14:33coming down.

1:14:36Okay. Number three in person is Molly

1:14:39Henry.

1:14:43>> Henry, how are you?

1:14:44>> I'm good. How are you?

1:14:46>> Good, thank you.

1:14:46>> Good evening, council. My name is Molly

1:14:48Henry. Um I am here wearing two hats. Uh

1:14:51one is with the green center. The other

1:14:53is Pucket Green Life. Um green

1:14:55infrastructure center, we did the um

1:14:57strategic tree canopy plant for the

1:14:59city. um Pucket Green Life actually my

1:15:02co colleague Dena Xavier actually came

1:15:05and presented to you all the strategic

1:15:07tree canopy plan about six or so months

1:15:10ago. Um we're a group of residents

1:15:12dedicated to a healthier bucket and part

1:15:15of what we've been focusing on is the

1:15:17very issue that um Jason just spoke to

1:15:20on the Shastik Industrial Highway. Um we

1:15:23have been um through community input we

1:15:26have identified Galago uh

1:15:30uh sorry Galgo field as a priority

1:15:33needing some upgrades and um went

1:15:36through a community design process with

1:15:38our uh landscape designer engaged um

1:15:42over 76 participants had three

1:15:44engagement events and we have a

1:15:46beautiful conceptual plan for that park.

1:15:48We've talked to the city with um public

1:15:50works with Chris Cwley. Um and one of

1:15:54the first pieces of that plan is um

1:15:57improving the gate the park and we've

1:16:00invested an enormous amount of labor and

1:16:04leverage additional funding um through

1:16:06private um grants and also partnership

1:16:09with the city to help us depave and

1:16:11improve that park experience. That is

1:16:14the only on Masha Lake industrial

1:16:16boulevard the only public entrance to

1:16:18the park. There is no other way to get

1:16:20to it. It has been overgrown. Um we have

1:16:23been working with groundwork and there

1:16:25use green team every single month clear

1:16:27it and remove tons and tons of trash. Um

1:16:31it looks way better right now but one of

1:16:33the barriers that was identified um

1:16:36through our engagement process is the

1:16:38lack of accessibility. So these trucks

1:16:41that are parked on Bashic Industrial

1:16:43Boulevard or sorry highway are a visual

1:16:47obstruction and people do not feel safe

1:16:50even accessing the park in the only park

1:16:53entrance that there is. So um not only

1:16:55is it an environmental hazard, it is a

1:16:57public issue. Um and also what Jason

1:17:01didn't mention is that um there's

1:17:03nowhere for park users to even park

1:17:05there. So, um, all of those trucks are

1:17:08occupying spaces for the public to be

1:17:10able to actually use their public space.

1:17:12So, my hope is that, um, the city can

1:17:16elevate this and actually enforce. I

1:17:18really just think it is a matter of

1:17:21ticketing and scaring some of these

1:17:23trucks away, um, because they've known

1:17:25for too long that they can park there

1:17:27for free. Um and Jason will tell you

1:17:29that anybody that you know has a tractor

1:17:32trailer usually has to rent and pay for

1:17:35um that space. So that's money that the

1:17:37city is losing revenue and in exchange

1:17:39is losing parking space for residents.

1:17:42And lastly, I'll just mention that I've

1:17:44worked very closely with a lot of

1:17:46residents in Galgo Court who have also

1:17:48mentioned um the trucks being um just

1:17:53idling there as well. also another

1:17:55violation. So many violations happening

1:17:57there. So I really I just implore you to

1:18:00please bring some enforcement and

1:18:02attention to that.

1:18:03>> It's clearly come to Council Kodiak's

1:18:05attention. So we will we will be sure to

1:18:08her as we can to take care of that.

1:18:10>> Thank you. You're welcome.

1:18:11>> Thank you.

1:18:14>> Representative Sher Cruz.

1:18:19Representative, how are you?

1:18:21>> I'm good. Thank you, President. Uh well

1:18:24you you heard from you know Jason from

1:18:27Nets and I want to say that's we were

1:18:29doing a clean up with green life Molly

1:18:32and seeing all those trucks and cars and

1:18:35all of these violations. It was the

1:18:37assumption and I think like many here

1:18:39and why it's probably went on so long

1:18:41that it was nets and being a good

1:18:43partner and it was going over there and

1:18:45saying let's just ask them hey go be a

1:18:48good partner. I went over. I was like,

1:18:50"Hey, you want to like adopt this space

1:18:52and let's clean this mess up together?

1:18:53We'll help you." And he said, "That's

1:18:55not my mess. Those are not my trucks."

1:18:59And he's been trying for years to get it

1:19:02to be cleaned up, to get the police to

1:19:04enforce the area. We're talking about

1:19:07dumping, which is an ordinance,

1:19:09overnight tractor trailers, um un having

1:19:13uh idling trucks, uh detached trailers

1:19:16parked for months. people camped out,

1:19:20public drinking. I mean, we can go on

1:19:22and on with the ordinances. You you

1:19:24could just drive down and you don't have

1:19:26to search very far to find some way to

1:19:29ticket to stop this. And you know, I

1:19:32talked to SND who's just over the line

1:19:34in Lincoln who also shared their

1:19:36concern. What the problem is is

1:19:38Southside where they dump, they just get

1:19:40away with it. And he was like, I wish

1:19:42you were my w because we want someone to

1:19:45clean this up, too. But something that's

1:19:48very interesting and you know alarming

1:19:50is when you get to that Lincoln line

1:19:53it's empty.

1:19:54>> I was just going to ask that question.

1:19:55So

1:19:55>> it's empty. Yeah. We've taken pictures.

1:19:58You can see they know int they know. So

1:20:01the the warning should should not happen

1:20:03because they know intentionally you

1:20:06don't see one truck or one car parked on

1:20:09the Lincoln side and then you turn and

1:20:11look to the Pucket side and it's filled

1:20:14with dumping and trucks and cars and

1:20:19what I'm I'm here because and you can

1:20:21hear it in my voice. I'm upset because I

1:20:23grew up in this area and it's treated

1:20:26like this. Not just that, but this is

1:20:29our only public housing with children.

1:20:32Our only city public housing, our

1:20:35poorest kids in this in this city. And

1:20:38this is what they see every day. This is

1:20:40what they risk if they walk to try to

1:20:42enter that park. This is what they've

1:20:44been dealing with for years.

1:20:47And so I think for me it's egregious. I

1:20:51hope and I'm so happy that you know,

1:20:53Councilwoman, you know, she came down,

1:20:55she was like, "No, I'm right on this.

1:20:56Let's get rid of this. I'm I'm happy to

1:20:58hear that, you know, you're also on

1:21:01board, council president. But again,

1:21:03this is serious. It is serious because

1:21:06again, these are kids that are forced to

1:21:08walk around as Molly had shared. They

1:21:10come and help do cleanups and they have

1:21:13to be amongst this.

1:21:15>> We definitely get it. I don't come to

1:21:17our attention

1:21:19called me last week about putting stuff

1:21:22on the agenda. So, we are now as she

1:21:24said, we are on it. Yes. And and I hope

1:21:27so because I drive by there every day

1:21:29and night and it just gets worse and

1:21:31worse. So I'm hoping again I called the

1:21:33state police. They said it's Pucket

1:21:36police. We call DEM. It's Pucket police.

1:21:40It comes back to Pucket. So I'm hoping

1:21:43we take ownership. We take our most

1:21:45vulnerable citizens in Pucket and we and

1:21:48we get this cleaned up. So thank you so

1:21:49much.

1:21:50>> Thank you, Representative.

1:21:52And we have one person online.

1:21:55That's correct.

1:21:56>> Okay.

1:22:00>> So, joining us this evening online, we

1:22:02have Maddie Weeden.

1:22:04>> Hey there. Um, I'm just speaking on the

1:22:08Harmony Dog Training Kennel. I don't

1:22:09know if you would want to wait um until

1:22:12that actually came up or I could say my

1:22:14piece now.

1:22:14>> Um, why don't you do it now because it's

1:22:16not a public hearing later on. So, um,

1:22:20now would be fine. We're we're all ears.

1:22:22>> No problem. Um, here goes. Um, I just

1:22:25want to say that this has been 2 years

1:22:28now of um, nuisance barking, unfortunate

1:22:30odor. Um, I don't think that

1:22:33soundproofing is the solution. Um,

1:22:35there's literally an ordinance that says

1:22:37that a kennel cannot be within 200 ft of

1:22:40residences. Um, and it's literally

1:22:42abudding my property. Um, there's no

1:22:44buffer and ordinances exist to protect

1:22:47against situations like this. And I feel

1:22:49like if due diligence had been done in

1:22:52the first place, um the owner of this

1:22:54kennel wouldn't have to invest so much

1:22:55money in soundproofing soundproof

1:22:58soundproofing a a warehouse essentially.

1:23:00Um these dogs go off all day, they go

1:23:03off all night. Um my baby monitor picks

1:23:06it up. My child care hears it. And um I

1:23:09just don't think that we have to we

1:23:10should have to suffer um because a

1:23:13technical error was made. Thank you.

1:23:17>> Thank you, Miss Weed. Okay, that takes

1:23:19care of public input, I believe.

1:23:20Correct, Michelle?

1:23:22>> That's correct.

1:23:22>> All right, then we are on

1:23:28Dr. Board of Life Commissioners call.

1:23:36>> President Person here.

1:23:39>> Council Rujo

1:23:40>> here. Council Kodair. Council Gregor.

1:23:45>> Council Moran. Council Morett,

1:23:48>> councelor Rubio

1:23:49>> here,

1:23:50>> council stoiaak

1:23:51>> here,

1:23:51>> council

1:23:52>> here. Seven in attendance.

1:23:54>> Item number one.

1:23:54>> Rosen, I'm sorry before you start. Um,

1:23:57so can we go back to what we've done in

1:24:02the in the temporary chambers upstairs?

1:24:04Have your mic off until you want to use

1:24:08it. Um, just so we don't get any

1:24:10feedback.

1:24:14Uh let's try it old school that raise

1:24:17your hand if you want to be recognized

1:24:19and take the floor. Uh I do have a

1:24:22pretty good site length so let's try it

1:24:24that way before we re

1:24:26I'm sorry council. Okay, great. All

1:24:29right, item number one, I'd like to call

1:24:31for approval of the previous minutes

1:24:32from September 10th, 2026 and September.

1:24:36>> Second, the move by councel second by

1:24:38council will hain that approval given to

1:24:41the minutes from the September 10th and

1:24:43September 23rd meeting of the board. Uh,

1:24:45are there any concerns amendments to

1:24:47lease and additions? counselor.

1:24:51>> Uh yes, regarding the the hearing on the

1:24:54harmony panel, it references that I

1:25:04page I guess page five here from the

1:25:06minutes.

1:25:08Um council Gregor stated that during the

1:25:10zoning process the ball was dropped. I

1:25:12don't remember saying that my issue

1:25:15application period uh things that were

1:25:17supposed to done including this only

1:25:19were not done. So I'd like to see some

1:25:22sort of correct but I'm I'm going to

1:25:23assume this has been recorded

1:25:27>> recorded the minutes the minutes just

1:25:30recommend to take into consideration

1:25:32actions and other things. So are you

1:25:35taking issue with the the suggestion

1:25:37that that someone dropped the ball? Is

1:25:40that the the concern?

1:25:42>> Yes. Specifically,

1:25:45process was failed.

1:25:47Okay. Um

1:25:52Rick, could we amend those minutes to

1:25:56simply say that the council asserted

1:25:59that the process had been?

1:26:03>> Okay.

1:26:04>> And with that amendment, are we good?

1:26:08>> Yes. As long as it's clear that it the

1:26:10application should not have been brought

1:26:12to the council because

1:26:14>> that's that's not for the minute.

1:26:16>> Okay,

1:26:17>> that should be sufficient. Thanks.

1:26:19>> All right. Appreciate it. Thank you. In

1:26:20that case, as amended, all in favor? I

1:26:23oppose. Motion carries.

1:26:25>> Item number two, consent agenda. And

1:26:27item number three, petitions for

1:26:28licenses starting with Victilla House

1:26:31first class renewal of Louis

1:26:34uh down to porn broker renewal fast cash

1:26:37porn and check cashaches. My motion is

1:26:39to approve both item number two and

1:26:42three. Moved by councelor Rujo, second

1:26:44by councelor Kodier that items two and

1:26:47three to consent with tender and

1:26:48petitions for license starting with the

1:26:50victoring house first class renewal of

1:26:52Lucania bakery down through porn broker

1:26:55renewal for fast cash porn and cashiers

1:26:59check casher inc. Any discussion? All in

1:27:03favor? I oppose. Motion carries

1:27:05>> as advertised. Public hearing. Class B

1:27:08ventilanu Kaliante Mexican Grill Lama

1:27:11Lampera LLC 295 Boulevard license number

1:27:16LQB 26-11. My motion is to convene this

1:27:20public hearing. It's been moved by

1:27:21council Roujo. Second Mike

1:27:24that we convene a public hearing about a

1:27:26class petrol of new for Caliente Mexican

1:27:29Grill Lama La LLC at 295 Armson

1:27:34Boulevard license number LQ-26-11

1:27:38public hearing open. Is the applicant

1:27:40here?

1:27:41>> You could come forward, sir.

1:27:44Just um speak into the mic and get the

1:27:46the clerk your name and address, please.

1:27:49My name is

1:27:52Can you spell the last name?

1:27:54>> R O D E Z N O.

1:27:58>> Okay. And your home address?

1:28:00>> Albert Youngstone.

1:28:02>> Albert Drive. Yes. You got that right?

1:28:05>> Arman Rodenzo Port Albert Drive.

1:28:08Johnston Orlando.

1:28:09>> Yes.

1:28:11>> Okay. This is in the big plaza there.

1:28:13Dunkin Donuts. Donald's plaz. um brother

1:28:18over towards the side where Dr. Donuts

1:28:20is correct. Yes, sir.

1:28:21>> Okay. The whole plaza and then councelor

1:28:23Wily District. So, I'm going to turn

1:28:25this over to him. Uh counselor, do you

1:28:27have any questions?

1:28:28>> Um did the clerk give you my phone

1:28:31number, sir? Because I didn't hear from

1:28:32anybody.

1:28:33>> I think so. I have. Yeah.

1:28:34>> Yeah. I don't recall talking to you on

1:28:37the phone.

1:28:38>> I don't think so. I think

1:28:39>> I don't think so either.

1:28:40>> I think I lost your number.

1:28:41>> So, could you go for through it for me

1:28:43what you plan on doing there? Is it

1:28:46takeout? Uh, fat takeout or restaurant?

1:28:49>> Yes,

1:28:50>> it's going to be takeout mostly.

1:28:52>> Mostly. Yeah.

1:28:53>> Yeah. Okay. How many days a week you

1:28:55going to be operating?

1:28:56>> Uh, like seven days a week.

1:28:58>> How many employees do you plan on

1:28:59having?

1:29:00>> Uh, 7 to 9.

1:29:02>> 7 to 9.

1:29:03>> Uh, hours of operation.

1:29:05>> Really good.

1:29:06>> How many What time are you going to open

1:29:08in the in the morning?

1:29:09>> 10 to 11. 10 to 11.

1:29:11>> 10 to 11.

1:29:13Seven days a week.

1:29:14>> Yes, sir.

1:29:21about. You're not serving alcohol there.

1:29:23That's not No, it's

1:29:25>> Yes.

1:29:26>> This is just a fixing house,

1:29:28>> right?

1:29:29>> Yep.

1:29:30>> Those are all the questions I have.

1:29:31>> No, this this this is a liquor license.

1:29:34>> I told you.

1:29:36>> Yeah. Class B.

1:29:38>> So, can I for a second?

1:29:40>> Go ahead.

1:29:41He had this is on on the same idea as

1:29:44Baja and and uh Chipotle. Same kind of

1:29:48kind of diet,

1:29:49>> right? And then for alcohol, is it just

1:29:54beer and bottles of wine that you serve?

1:29:58Yeah, we serve those in that plate,

1:30:00right? See if we need a if we can get a

1:30:03whole liquid license for if we're not.

1:30:05So that'd be great. All right. So

1:30:07they're applying for a full class B. Is

1:30:09that

1:30:10>> Yes. Yeah.

1:30:12>> Okay.

1:30:12>> All right.

1:30:13>> Um, so that if you intend on having

1:30:16everybody's going to be tip served out

1:30:18of the people that you indicate your

1:30:20employees will be tip serve certified.

1:30:22>> Uh, yes.

1:30:23>> Okay.

1:30:24>> You said in the other places. How many

1:30:26other places have uh you operated?

1:30:28>> Uh, we have like um eight places but we

1:30:31we sell beers. Yes. like like five

1:30:34because the other ones they are in

1:30:36college so you can

1:30:38>> where are the eight places located? One

1:30:40of them is

1:30:42>> one of them is in Chopstone Avenue to

1:30:44the other one is on street

1:30:5099

1:30:51Kingston of Jul

1:30:55was Warick and that one's the children.

1:30:59>> Okay. So this is the only one that

1:31:00you'll have here in Kentucky. Correct.

1:31:02>> Uh this is the only one. Yes.

1:31:03>> Okay.

1:31:04When you say you serve beer and beer

1:31:07mostly

1:31:09cans, right? So, we're not talking about

1:31:11bottles behind.

1:31:13>> No, we don't.

1:31:13>> Having you make it mixed and drink,

1:31:15right? We don't

1:31:16>> pre-bottled and pre- canned.

1:31:18>> Yes.

1:31:19>> That's what we have right now.

1:31:21>> Okay. And somebody's got to come in and

1:31:24get a salad or a taco or a burrito, sit

1:31:27there

1:31:28>> and we cover the

1:31:29>> and have a beer from the from the coupe,

1:31:31right? There's no tap system. No, we we

1:31:34serve with them. Yes. Okay.

1:31:37>> That help at all cost a

1:31:39>> little bit. Um the exact location are

1:31:42you in the place that is on the corner

1:31:45there?

1:31:45>> No, it's um next to the laundromats.

1:31:49>> Okay.

1:31:49>> The bank over there.

1:31:50>> Okay. Yeah.

1:31:51>> Yeah. Fast cash check next door.

1:31:54>> Blockbuster was a long time ago.

1:31:55>> Okay. All right.

1:31:58All right. No, that's all the questions

1:32:00I have. Anybody else have any questions

1:32:03for the applicant? Okay, sir. This is a

1:32:05public hearing, so if you just have a

1:32:06seat for a moment. All right. Thank you.

1:32:08Thank you. Is there anybody here tonight

1:32:10to speak on this application?

1:32:13And is there anybody online to speak on

1:32:14this?

1:32:18Okay. In that case, I will declare the

1:32:20public hearing. Motion council. I'll uh

1:32:24make a motion to

1:32:27>> second move by council building effected

1:32:29by councelor that approve approval be

1:32:31given to the petition for a class BA uh

1:32:34calient Mexican grill at 295 Armis

1:32:37Boulevard license by LQB-26-

1:32:4011. Any discussion on the motion to

1:32:43approve? All in favor?

1:32:45>> I opposed. Motion carries. You're all

1:32:47set, sir. Good luck.

1:32:49Item number five advertised for public

1:32:51care class Villan Nevermore Nevermore

1:32:54LLC 65 Blackstone Avenue license number

1:32:58LQB 26-12 my motion is to convene at

1:33:01public hearing move by council Rou

1:33:03second by Rubio that public hearing

1:33:06about class B nevermore nevermore LLC 65

1:33:10Blackstone Avenue uh licensed up

1:33:12LQB-26-12

1:33:15public hearing is convened the applicant

1:33:17can come forward Same thing. If you give

1:33:19your name and home address to the clerk,

1:33:20please. Y

1:33:21>> Robert Deetsz. And my address is 146

1:33:26Warrington Street. W A R R I N G T O N

1:33:30in Providence.

1:33:33Just one second.

1:33:34>> Mr. Robert Deetsz, 146 Warrington

1:33:37Street, Providence.

1:33:38>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Deetsz. Um, thank

1:33:42you for coming down. Uh this is in

1:33:45council Moran's district and he's

1:33:47recovering from some recent uh surgery.

1:33:50So he did tell me that you guys had

1:33:53spoken correct yesterday.

1:33:55>> You uh gave him the lay of the land of

1:33:57what you intend to do.

1:33:58>> Um could you just kind of reiterate that

1:34:01for the rest of the board, please?

1:34:02>> Sure. Um to be a restaurant doing food

1:34:04and drink

1:34:07and a little more elevated than Hangry

1:34:09Kitchen, darker on the inside, more of

1:34:12like a maybe

1:34:16Uh but small and big not even 30 seats.

1:34:20Yeah. So just you know

1:34:22>> Can you just orient me? Is it near the

1:34:24peddler and I'm trying to figure out

1:34:26where uh

1:34:28>> it used to be the gym?

1:34:30>> It's across

1:34:31>> right next to

1:34:33>> Oh, okay. It's in one of the adjoining

1:34:35uh mill or one of the adjoining mill

1:34:37buildings and

1:34:38>> down for the river.

1:34:40>> Yes. And behind the the most recent exit

1:34:43from Tolman High School then, right?

1:34:45>> Yes. Right. Right. By the scrap metal.

1:34:47Gotcha. And the art the art collective

1:34:48at the armory.

1:34:50>> Okay. Um I'm sure you went with council

1:34:53tip certified employees and all the rest

1:34:55and and he he seemed to be fine with all

1:34:57the questions he asked and all the

1:34:59answers you gave.

1:35:00>> Um is there anybody else that has any

1:35:02questions for Mr. Beats?

1:35:05Council,

1:35:07Council Murray indicated to me all

1:35:10>> just wanted to let me know so in case

1:35:12anybody else.

1:35:14>> Gotcha. Okay. Thank you. Uh in that

1:35:16case, I'm going to have to take a seat,

1:35:17please.

1:35:17>> Thank you. Is there anybody here tonight

1:35:19in person in the chambers here to speak

1:35:22on this application?

1:35:26Anybody online?

1:35:28>> There is none.

1:35:31>> Okay. I go to declare the public hearing

1:35:33closed and I will entertain a motion on

1:35:35behalf of councelor man. President

1:35:38Mercer. I'll make that motion on behalf

1:35:39of the councelor. Okay. It's been moved

1:35:41by councelor Wilden Hayes, second by

1:35:43councelor Roujo councelor that approval

1:35:46be given to the class B vitan for

1:35:49nevermore. Nevermore LLC 65 Blackstone

1:35:52and license-26-12.

1:35:56Uh any discussion on the motion to

1:35:57approve? All in favor? I opposed. Motion

1:36:00carries. You're all set. Good luck.

1:36:03Council president number six. Correct.

1:36:06That what we just read.

1:36:08>> Uh, we just did five.

1:36:09>> All right. Five. Okay. Okay. Item number

1:36:10six, petition for license vict first

1:36:12class new Nevermore. Never more LLC 65

1:36:15Blackstone Avenue-26-12.

1:36:19Motion to approve. Move by council Rou

1:36:21second by council hat and councel Rubio

1:36:24that the petition for license for

1:36:26picture house first class new for

1:36:27Deborro LLC 65 Blackstone Avenue license

1:36:31number LQB 612 be approved. Any

1:36:34discussion on a motion to approve? All

1:36:36in favor? I

1:36:37>> opposed. Motion carries.

1:36:39>> Item number seven, a report from Kyle J.

1:36:41Johnson, director of zoning and code

1:36:42enforcement board of licensed

1:36:44commissioners. Tiki auto sales

1:36:46inspection report from September 17,

1:36:492026.

1:36:51My motion is to read file and take up

1:36:54move by council. Second by that a report

1:36:57from Carl Johnson, the director of zon

1:36:59code enforcement for Kentucky photo

1:37:00license commission regarding tiki auto

1:37:02sales and inspector report September 17,

1:37:052026 be filed. Uh any discussion on file

1:37:10communication? All in favor?

1:37:12>> I oppose. Motion carries.

1:37:14>> Item number eight, second update for the

1:37:16following licenses taken up. Automobile

1:37:18repair shop and secondhand shop class A

1:37:20and B selling used automobiles and

1:37:23parts. Tiki Auto Sales Annex Aussie uh

1:37:26Aussie G Incorporated 772 Main Street

1:37:30license number AUT24-68

1:37:32stations. No mechanical repairs in the

1:37:35front of the building. No debris in the

1:37:37back. All work must be done inside the

1:37:40building. All vehicles in the front are

1:37:42for sale only and that is as of uh

1:37:45January 23rd, 2013.

1:37:48Right. My motion is to take the slices

1:37:50up again.

1:37:51>> Move by council. by councelor Gregor

1:37:53that have a secondhand up the second

1:37:55update for the following licenses taken

1:37:57up automobile repair shop and secondhand

1:37:59shop licenses class A and B selling used

1:38:01automobiles and parts Tiki's auto sale

1:38:04Annex RZG Inc. excuse me, 772 Main

1:38:09Street, license number AUT4-68.

1:38:13And there are four stipulations put on

1:38:15by the zoning board uh back in 2013 as

1:38:19councelor just motion is to take up this

1:38:22license again. Is the applicant here?

1:38:25I'm sorry. I see you back there, sir.

1:38:29Yeah, if you come forward, please.

1:38:38We already have his his name and

1:38:40address, right?

1:38:41>> Yes.

1:38:41>> So, I'm going to turn this over as as

1:38:43we've done in the past to council

1:38:44Gregor. It's his district. Uh I'll leave

1:38:46it at that.

1:38:48>> Okay.

1:38:49>> Councelor.

1:38:50>> Uh good afternoon. How you doing?

1:38:52>> Good afternoon. Go. How you doing?

1:38:53>> So, uh what's the place looking like

1:38:58>> from the pictures I provided last month?

1:39:00It's still exactly the same. meaning

1:39:04>> meaning still clean everything cars are

1:39:06still in the same spot so this way no

1:39:08issue when it came to this one

1:39:11>> and what about the cars probably just

1:39:13the vehicles park sparking down the

1:39:14street

1:39:17thinking there's

1:39:19one person already picked up his vehicle

1:39:21there's probably one vehicle that has a

1:39:24plate on it I just don't know if it's

1:39:26registered or not

1:39:28that could be

1:39:31there's a connection to you like one of

1:39:32client.

1:39:33>> Yeah. Okay.

1:39:35>> And do we were supposed to get a report

1:39:37on the civil case with your dad

1:39:39regarding the back lot.

1:39:40>> Yeah. And I talked to my lawyer. He said

1:39:41there's no update on that. He's trying

1:39:44to find a judge to take his case.

1:39:49>> Excuse me.

1:39:51Frank, have you received anything

1:39:53regarding the update on that?

1:39:56>> Superior.

1:39:58>> Yes. Yeah.

1:40:00Frank, if you could just especially with

1:40:02the new please.

1:40:04>> So, no to answer your question as you

1:40:06recall a few weeks back I provided you

1:40:08with a breakdown from the court portal

1:40:10where the case actually stood. So, you

1:40:13have all that information. I'm not aware

1:40:14of anything.

1:40:16My recollection is that it was basically

1:40:18put down or assigned for trial, but that

1:40:22hasn't happened yet.

1:40:24>> Again, I'm not I'm not involved in the

1:40:26litigation. Is not

1:40:27>> No, I understand that.

1:40:29You weren't able to reach out to the

1:40:30attorney.

1:40:32>> No, I provided you as you requested with

1:40:36what the status of the case was. I went

1:40:38to the portal and I downloaded a

1:40:41complete report of everything that has

1:40:43happened in the case up to that point. I

1:40:46have not had any conversations with any

1:40:49of the attorneys who are involved in

1:40:51that superior court action.

1:40:54But my understanding is that both

1:40:55parties are in fact represented by

1:40:58councel and that they've basically taken

1:41:01the matter to a point where now it's

1:41:03just a matter of getting reached tribe

1:41:05on the underlying issue which basically

1:41:08sounds like it's some type of a statute

1:41:10of frauds issue. My understanding is

1:41:12that uh the plainif is alleging that his

1:41:16father promised to sell him the property

1:41:19and apparently that's in dispute. And so

1:41:21the court's going to ultimately have to

1:41:23decide whether or not that

1:41:25representation and promise was made and

1:41:27whether or not the property can or

1:41:29should be conveyed.

1:41:31But again, city of Pucket is not a party

1:41:33to

1:41:34>> Yeah. [clears throat] No, I understand

1:41:35that. Okay. Um,

1:41:40SP, you have no idea what that would be.

1:41:43Your attorney hasn't told you anything.

1:41:45>> He hasn't provided provided me any

1:41:47information on it.

1:41:48>> Have you reached out to him and asked

1:41:49him?

1:41:50>> Yeah, I talked to him a couple days ago.

1:41:51He hasn't provided me any information on

1:41:53it.

1:41:53>> Okay.

1:42:00I'm just going to suggest at this point

1:42:01that uh they do the inspections. So

1:42:05hopefully the director can give us

1:42:07another update

1:42:09and

1:42:10>> and you know obviously in the interim if

1:42:12anything comes up or place the case for

1:42:15trial he would let us know. So

1:42:17>> okay

1:42:19so another inspection again another

1:42:22month

1:42:24is what is why you call

1:42:25>> just one second Rick there there's

1:42:27nothing before

1:42:29this is a an active valid license right?

1:42:33Yes.

1:42:34>> Okay. So, you're suggesting another

1:42:37report from the zoning to the council.

1:42:40>> Yeah. Six weeks, I think.

1:42:44>> Okay. And then depending on what that

1:42:46report says, you we may or may not reach

1:42:48back out to you.

1:42:50Understood? That makes sense.

1:42:52>> I thought that's what this one was for

1:42:54where because that's what happened last

1:42:56month.

1:42:57Well, I think the counselor is hoping to

1:43:00get an ongoing review to make stay on

1:43:03the right track, especially with the

1:43:05pending litigation. Doesn't mean you'll

1:43:07have to be back here again before us,

1:43:09but asking for another review.

1:43:12>> Understandable.

1:43:13>> Six weeks

1:43:16longer.

1:43:21First week in December, I guess maybe

1:43:23that would give it sufficient time, but

1:43:26hopefully

1:43:27do have some issues. I mean, the main

1:43:28thing is that you can't use the back to

1:43:30move the cars in in the interim. You got

1:43:32to do your best efforts to clean up,

1:43:33keep the place cleaned up, and no, none

1:43:36of your uh customers vehicles should be

1:43:38parked on the street, unregistered,

1:43:39obviously, and that's something the

1:43:41zoning should be addressing. So,

1:43:45>> so I was when the council is looking for

1:43:48you to continue on the right path with

1:43:50making sure you're abiding by all those

1:43:51stipulations and not parking and keeping

1:43:54it clean clean as best you can with the

1:43:56property that you control.

1:43:59>> Good. Thank you.

1:43:59>> And then we'll get a report back from

1:44:01the zoning uh

1:44:04first meeting. Well, it'll be in the so

1:44:06second meeting of December.

1:44:07>> Yeah.

1:44:08>> Okay.

1:44:10All right. I think that

1:44:11>> Thank you.

1:44:12>> Thank you.

1:44:12>> Thank you. vote.

1:44:14>> Thank you, councelor.

1:44:16>> Okay. Item number nine. The following

1:44:18petition for renewal was postponed at

1:44:20the meetings held on April 8th, May 6th,

1:44:23June 10th, July 8th, August 5th, and

1:44:27September 10th, 2026

1:44:29is again taken up. Kennaly

1:44:33Harmony Dog Training LLC 65 Patterson

1:44:36Avenue license number KNL-25-2.

1:44:40Motion is to take this up.

1:44:42>> Moved by councelor Roua, second by

1:44:44councelor Gregor that following

1:44:46petitioner for renewal was postponed

1:44:47that held April 8th, May 6th through

1:44:5010th July 8th August 5th September 10th

1:44:53and it's again taken up. It's a kennel

1:44:55renewal kennel license renewal. Harmony

1:44:58Dog Training LLC 65 Patterson Avenue

1:45:00license number KNL-25-2.

1:45:04Uh we are taking the matter again before

1:45:07we get into it. Uh, Attorney Bel, I'm

1:45:09glad you're here. Could you step

1:45:11forward, please?

1:45:15>> Um,

1:45:16>> good evening.

1:45:16>> Good evening. How are you?

1:45:17>> Good. How are you?

1:45:18>> And you're the attorney of record for

1:45:19the Dick Harmony,

1:45:20>> correct?

1:45:21>> So, um, very quick question for you. We

1:45:24met uh for about almost two hours uh

1:45:28last week, Council Greg, the solicitor,

1:45:31myself, and you see if we could kind of

1:45:34come up with some sort of a uh an

1:45:37agreement on how to how to proceed. Uh

1:45:39part of that was

1:45:42um

1:45:45no outdoor use. So no exercising or

1:45:48relieving of the and the second would be

1:45:53um installing adequate soundproofing

1:45:56that your client at least had indicated

1:45:59he thought would be helpful. Um

1:46:02is your client willing to abide by both

1:46:05of those statutes?

1:46:07>> At at this time Harmony Kennel would

1:46:09object to the imposition of any

1:46:12conditions on its license. We think the

1:46:14appropriate thing for the board to do

1:46:17license with no condition as was done in

1:46:202025, although that postponed as it has

1:46:23been again this year. Um,

1:46:27Harmony has already invested thousands

1:46:29in the building, uh, which it doesn't

1:46:31own, but it does have a long-term lease.

1:46:34Um, unfortunately, we feel it's been set

1:46:37up for failure by the city because

1:46:39almost immediately after the license was

1:46:41granted in March 2024, as this council

1:46:43knows, um, complaints began immediately

1:46:46and and we heard from Miss Weeden

1:46:47tonight, uh, she doesn't think

1:46:50soundproofing will solve the issue for

1:46:52the neighbors. Uh, we agree. We don't

1:46:54think the neighbors, unfortunately, are

1:46:56going to be satisfied until Harmony is

1:46:58out of town. Um a and that may be

1:47:01ultimately where Harmony is going, but

1:47:03at this point the city has granted

1:47:05Harmony a property interest in its

1:47:07license. It didn't impose conditions

1:47:09when it originally uh was granted the

1:47:12license. We don't think conditions

1:47:14should be imposed now. Um at this point

1:47:18um Harmony cannot agree to investing um

1:47:24thousands and potentially four or five

1:47:26figures. I certainly understand I am.

1:47:28Yeah.

1:47:30>> Uh but as you know, we frequently issue

1:47:34licenses and subsequently put

1:47:36stipulations on because of things that

1:47:38have arisen. So the fact that there was

1:47:40no stipulation first granted or when it

1:47:43was first renewed really is neither here

1:47:46nor here nor there. But I I I get your

1:47:48position. Um, I just wanted to be clear

1:47:52before we went perhaps down one road uh

1:47:55that it wasn't going to be satisfactory

1:47:57to your client either. So, I appreciate

1:47:59you coming up and and and offering that

1:48:01comment. Thank you.

1:48:03>> Okay. Um,

1:48:06so matter is now back before us. It is

1:48:09in uh district five, council Gregor's

1:48:12district. Um I think we all know that

1:48:16the travel it was issued um in the

1:48:19spring or so of 2024.

1:48:23Um the renewal process in 2025 was

1:48:29delayed while we tried to address some

1:48:32uh problems that came up in the first

1:48:36year of of operation.

1:48:39It was also

1:48:41made clear to us that

1:48:44there was a

1:48:47misstep

1:48:49uh by the city uh including by this

1:48:53board to uh that we didn't give

1:48:58consideration to the license ordinance

1:49:01which prohibits a

1:49:06uh

1:49:08a kettle license from being given within

1:49:12200 f feet of a residential property. Uh

1:49:15that

1:49:17that's clear that the board didn't know

1:49:20it or understand it at the time. Uh and

1:49:24that's what's created the problem here

1:49:27for the last

1:49:29two plus years. And that um

1:49:34the very things at issue right now are

1:49:37precisely why the ordinance the

1:49:39licensing ordinance not the zoning

1:49:41ordinance the licensing ordinance

1:49:43prohibits it with that close proximity

1:49:46to a u

1:49:49a residential lot. So, it's kind of

1:49:53where we are now. We've been trying to

1:49:55grapple whether to come up with some

1:49:57sort of a way to to deal with the

1:50:02misstep and see if there couldn't be

1:50:04some sort of uh coexistence. Uh but

1:50:08that's where we are now. I will now just

1:50:10turn it over to councelor Greor. Um

1:50:14councelor

1:50:19trying your client here.

1:50:23No, Mr. Rosado is out of state.

1:50:28>> Okay.

1:50:29>> I just wanted to uh bring up the issue.

1:50:31He made a statement at the last hearing

1:50:33that he had invested uh approximately

1:50:35100,000 or more into that building and

1:50:39um it's been brought to my attention

1:50:41that Mr. was currently significantly

1:50:45under he's got several cases with the

1:50:47family court and the child support is in

1:50:49aruspended

1:50:51sentence of nine months for failure to

1:50:54pay his child support and I'm trying to

1:50:56reconcile no

1:50:58I'm stop you there is this is a

1:51:01licensing issue I we don't know need to

1:51:03be bringing up

1:51:04>> no the the reason why just may finish

1:51:07I'm trying to recon say how is it that

1:51:08he can invest 100 he has $100,000 to

1:51:11invest into a building and yet he he's

1:51:14filing relief motions and thoroughly in

1:51:16violation of his child's law with

1:51:20I'm going to stop right there. I don't

1:51:22think one has anything to do with the

1:51:24other.

1:51:25>> Um he

1:51:26>> he has said and his attorney has said

1:51:29that he's invested

1:51:30>> in the name of the $100,000. That that's

1:51:33>> that's not at issue. The issue is what

1:51:37do you want to do with the

1:51:41the license renewal that has been held

1:51:44in abance now for a number of months.

1:51:46>> Well, have you been provided training

1:51:49cards with all the u discovery that you

1:51:53needed regarding this matter?

1:51:56Well, the package that Frank gave you.

1:51:59>> Yes, the solicitor gave the package that

1:52:02that the council the licensing board

1:52:04received.

1:52:06>> Okay. So, I just wanted to

1:52:11to point out that the uh this board and

1:52:14myself have

1:52:16repeatedly from the start uh question

1:52:20the propriety of the zoning certificate

1:52:23that was issued to Mr. was out regarding

1:52:25opening that um that can open a

1:52:28residential.

1:52:31So and again we haven't been

1:52:36this council was not aware of the fix

1:52:40regarding

1:52:42prohibition for a kennel to be within

1:52:44200 feet or residential property that

1:52:46was never brought to us by either the

1:52:48director or anyone else. So up until the

1:52:51time we found out and

1:52:55as I see it you know as elected

1:52:57municipal board I think um we are

1:53:01mandated that's where the child you know

1:53:05which is essentially our constitution

1:53:07the rules and regulate relate to

1:53:11um our zoning orders and not in general

1:53:14and clearly section

1:53:20The kill license

1:53:2416-56 C requires that all

1:53:29cattle and

1:53:32pet care services

1:53:34meet all the requirements required under

1:53:36section 41060U of our and in particular

1:53:40I keep you know so we reference number

1:53:42three which again states that it can't

1:53:45be within 200 ft of res. And that's

1:53:47obviously for reasons that's been

1:53:49articulated here previously and also as

1:53:51just uh brought up again by council

1:53:54president that the exact issues that

1:53:57these folks have been complaining about

1:53:59is why we have those um the zoning

1:54:03ordinance and the requirements. I mean

1:54:04they're very clear that they don't

1:54:06provide for options for for anything

1:54:10other than strict compliance with what

1:54:12those regulation

1:54:14uh for regul for ordinances

1:54:17um to mean anything is is going to say

1:54:20what it says and do what it what it

1:54:22means and and clearly I don't see how we

1:54:25have any other choice but to deny the

1:54:27renewal.

1:54:31>> Is that a motion? Yes, there would be a

1:54:34motion.

1:54:36>> Second and moved by councelor Greor,

1:54:39second by councelor Wen Hay, that the

1:54:42board

1:54:44deny the renewal of

1:54:48the Harmony Dog Training LLC, kennel

1:54:52license number 10 KNL-25-2.

1:54:57There any discussion on the matter?

1:55:01Uh, I'll just wave here in support of

1:55:03counselor counselor Greor. Um,

1:55:07you know, it's this has been a kind of a

1:55:10sticky sticky situation. It he's correct

1:55:14that it should not have been issued, but

1:55:17it was. He's correct that

1:55:20we know now that it should not have been

1:55:22issued. Um, and no amount of trying to

1:55:27put a square peg in a roundt is going to

1:55:29necessarily help us here and it's

1:55:31certainly not going to help the the

1:55:33constituents in in council Gregor's

1:55:35district. So, um, while I thought there

1:55:38might be some sort of a resolution, uh,

1:55:41I I'm inclined to agree with councelor

1:55:43McGregor that, um, it should not have

1:55:46been issued and

1:55:49therefore should not be, uh, renewed.

1:55:53So, I will be voting in favor of his

1:55:55motion to

1:55:58not renew.

1:56:02Anybody else?

1:56:05Uh Rick, let's take a roll call on us,

1:56:08please.

1:56:13>> Yes to deny the renee. Yes to deny the

1:56:19>> council.

1:56:20>> Yes to deny.

1:56:21>> Councelor Kodair.

1:56:22>> Yes.

1:56:23>> Councelor Greger.

1:56:24>> Yes.

1:56:25>> Councelor Rubio.

1:56:27>> Yes.

1:56:27>> Council.

1:56:28>> Yes.

1:56:28>> Council Wild.

1:56:29>> Yes.

1:56:30>> Seven to zero.

1:56:31>> Thank you. Thank you, councelor. Thank

1:56:33you. uh started going

1:56:35>> I just uh procedurally um that was the

1:56:40motion uh to deny the renewal. Does the

1:56:43board intend to make a finding with

1:56:46respect to the notice of violation?

1:56:50I would think that would be kind

1:56:54uh Rick I mean could you just come up

1:56:57for one second in my non attorney opin

1:57:03if we are taking a stance that it

1:57:05shouldn't have been issued now that we

1:57:08know should not have been issued that we

1:57:10are denying to declining to do it

1:57:13>> that's correct

1:57:13>> so in other words you're basically

1:57:15looking strictly at the legal issue that

1:57:17council Gregor raised which is at 410.

1:57:20Uh, is it 67U?

1:57:22>> 67U.

1:57:23>> 67U

1:57:25specifically requires as a condition of

1:57:29the licensing that the premises not be

1:57:32within 200 ft of a residential zone. So,

1:57:35you're focusing and my understanding

1:57:36from what I heard is your motion focused

1:57:39specifically on that section. I would

1:57:41agree with you that I don't think the

1:57:44issue of a noise and nuisance. Yes. if

1:57:48you're looking strictly at that one

1:57:50particular and I believe that's that is

1:57:52how it was articulated and that's how I

1:57:54understood it. So does that answer your

1:57:56question?

1:57:56>> Um yes just in the event of further

1:58:00review I I want it to be clear um why

1:58:03the council voted as they did and I I

1:58:06think it it is clear no findings have

1:58:08been made with respect to the factual

1:58:11evidence um that came before that was

1:58:14presented to the board last month. I I

1:58:16think that's what I'm hearing.

1:58:17>> Okay. And should we have a finding or

1:58:19should we Again, there there there

1:58:21hasn't been a motion made relative to

1:58:25those aspects of the summons. I'm not

1:58:28saying there has to be. Again, Council

1:58:30McGregor's motion focused specifically

1:58:33on 410 67U

1:58:37and the particular subsection that

1:58:39creates the 200T buffer

1:58:43when this first came up. So in other

1:58:45words, if there is an appeal and it

1:58:46sounds like there will be

1:58:48>> that would be the primary actually the

1:58:51sole issue uh that the court would be

1:58:55addressing as part of the pellet.

1:58:57>> Well in in light of that um I think that

1:59:01the question the board then would have

1:59:03to ask would have to was there

1:59:06sufficient evidence.

1:59:07>> Correct. I was just about to ask you

1:59:09that question. So um

1:59:12I believe after hearing everything heard

1:59:15that um there certainly was substantial

1:59:19evidence that there was

1:59:22an ongoing nuisance.

1:59:24Um so should we

1:59:28consider

1:59:30a decision on that? Again, you've made a

1:59:34decision to not renew, which is akin to

1:59:37a revocation on a specific legal

1:59:40standard that wasn't met. I don't know

1:59:43that you need to go further, but you

1:59:45certainly can and decide that as an

1:59:48alternate

1:59:50uh basis for revoking. Does the board of

1:59:54licensed commissioners as a body believe

1:59:57that there was a violation of the other

2:00:01issues raised thumbs? [clears throat]

2:00:02And if so, would that in and of itself

2:00:06in the board's uh consideration

2:00:11have been sufficient to warrant a

2:00:15revocation? I don't think you need both,

2:00:17but you certainly can articulate both if

2:00:20that's the board. I think we kind of

2:00:21did. I just I don't know who's wrapped

2:00:23into the motion, but certainly the

2:00:24counselor. You may you may make a vote

2:00:27and and say that although you acts in

2:00:31support of violations of those other

2:00:34sections that they in and of themselves

2:00:37don't rise to the level of revocation or

2:00:39you may and if you do then there will be

2:00:42two bases of uh appeal that the parties

2:00:47will be arguing. You agree with me?

2:00:49>> Yes. So my yeah my my n my lawyer take

2:00:55on this I I I do believe it was part and

2:00:57parcel of what the what the counselor

2:00:59was saying and not renewing

2:01:01[clears throat] that that's not what the

2:01:03motion was the motion

2:01:04>> but in his in his articulation before he

2:01:06>> sure but that but again for the clarity

2:01:09of record right now what I heard is a

2:01:13motion to revoke slashnotrenew

2:01:16strictly on the basis of the 200 buffer.

2:01:20>> Yes, that that was the motion. Correct,

2:01:22council. Correct.

2:01:23>> Okay. Um

2:01:26we'll we'll we'll we'll stick with that.

2:01:28That was the way it was articulated

2:01:30voted on it.

2:01:30>> And to make it clear though, yes, you

2:01:32can also entertain a motion and a vote

2:01:36on the nuisance noise specs. That's

2:01:40completely if you feel you need to do so

2:01:42or want to do so for the basis that you

2:01:45just gave.

2:01:46>> Okay. Um,

2:01:49if I may, um, I think we should because

2:01:53the nuisance abatement 116-25

2:01:57is derivative of the reasons why, um,

2:02:02section

2:02:04>> by the 200 foot buffer.

2:02:05>> Yeah. Well, yeah, that and the 116-56

2:02:11general application requirements that

2:02:13all spe special use requirements for pet

2:02:17care service establishment

2:02:19as listed in section 146 CU

2:02:23uh the zoning law of the city of Turkey

2:02:25requires that 200 buffer from

2:02:28residential properties and I think Frank

2:02:31has submitted sufficient police report

2:02:34folks that testify

2:02:36And I've emailed repeatedly for the last

2:02:39two plus years since the license

2:02:42regarding the noise and a nuisance with

2:02:44the dogs and and and so forth. So

2:02:48habitual barking, howling, yelping,

2:02:50disturbing, annoying and a considerable

2:02:53number of persons or neighbor declared a

2:02:56public nuisance. So, I think we should

2:02:58take a hold on the fact that there is

2:03:00sufficient evidence support the claims

2:03:02of nuisance in addition to

2:03:06the um

2:03:07>> Okay, I'll I'll consider that a motion.

2:03:11>> Second by second by council koviaak.

2:03:16The board finds there is sufficient

2:03:19evidence to consider

2:03:22or constitute a public nuisance relative

2:03:25to the operation of the kennel under the

2:03:29should not have been

2:03:33issued. Is that accurate council?

2:03:36>> Yes, that's accurate.

2:03:38>> Okay. So that's the motion by council

2:03:40second by council kak. Any discussion on

2:03:42that motion?

2:03:45In that case, uh, we'll we'll go with a

2:03:47roll call on this one, too.

2:03:51>> President Mercer,

2:03:52>> yes.

2:03:53>> Council Riojo,

2:03:54>> yes.

2:03:54>> Council Kodair,

2:03:55>> yes.

2:03:56>> Council Gregor,

2:03:57>> yes.

2:03:58>> Council Rubio,

2:03:59>> yes.

2:04:00>> Council SC,

2:04:01>> yes.

2:04:01>> Council Wilder,

2:04:02>> yes.

2:04:03>> Seven to zero.

2:04:04>> Thank you.

2:04:06>> Awesome. Thank you both. We're on to

2:04:08item 10.

2:04:09>> Okay. Item 10, petition for license,

2:04:11entertainment, and beer and wine.

2:04:13petition of St. Mary's Antioch

2:04:16Orthodox Church for a license to conduct

2:04:18an annual holiday bizarre and sell beer

2:04:21and wine at 60 St. Mary Way on Friday,

2:04:23November 6, 2026 from 5:00 p.m. until

2:04:258:00 p.m. Sat Saturday, November 7th,

2:04:292026.

2:04:30So 8:30 p.m. and Sunday, November 8th,

2:04:332026 from 11:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. License

2:04:37number EV26s87.

2:04:39My motion is to approve

2:04:41>> the move by councelor Roua second by

2:04:43councelor the kovi act that a petition

2:04:46class fier wine petition of St. Mary's

2:04:49Antioch and Orthodox Church for license

2:04:51conduct an annual holiday bizarre and to

2:04:54sell wine at 60 St. Way on Friday,

2:04:57November 6th from 5:00 p.m. until 8:00

2:05:00p.m. Saturday, November 7th from 10 a.m.

2:05:02until 8:30 p.m. and Sunday, November 8th

2:05:05from 11:30 a.m. to 300 p.m. License of

2:05:08an EBT-26.

2:05:11The motion is for approval. Is there any

2:05:13discussion? All in favor? I oppose.

2:05:15Motion carries. Hey,

2:05:16>> no further business coming before the

2:05:18target board of license commissioners. I

2:05:19make a motion that we

2:05:22made with that by my counselor. A second

2:05:24by council that we adjourn as of

2:05:27Kentucky board of license commissioners

2:05:28and we as of city council. Before we do,

2:05:31I ask that everybody here stand and join

2:05:33us in the pledge of allegiance started

2:05:35by council

2:05:40of America

2:05:42stand.

2:05:51>> Thank you. Kentucky City Council will

2:05:54come to order clerical control.

2:06:06>> President Person

2:06:07>> here.

2:06:08>> Councelor Roua

2:06:09>> here.

2:06:09>> Councilor Kodair

2:06:10>> here.

2:06:11>> Council Gregor

2:06:12>> here. Council Moran. Council Moren.

2:06:16Council Rubio

2:06:17>> here. Council here. Council Wilder

2:06:20>> here. Seven in attendance.

2:06:23>> I call for approval of item number one,

2:06:25which is the previous minutes of

2:06:26September 23rd, 2026 of the finance

2:06:29committee and the city council.

2:06:30>> Second move by councelor Rojo, second by

2:06:33councelor Wine, was that you?

2:06:35>> Uh that approval be given to the minutes

2:06:37from September 23rd of the finance

2:06:40committee and the city council has been

2:06:42prayed by the clerk. Are there any

2:06:43discussions? Amen. Additions. Hearing

2:06:46none. All in favor? I opposed. Motion

2:06:48carries. Item number two, I call up for

2:06:50uh approval of the consent agenda and

2:06:52the correspondence.

2:06:54>> Been moved by councelor Roua, second by

2:06:56councelor that approval given to item

2:06:59two, the to consent agenda and

2:07:00correspondence. Are there any items the

2:07:04members would like to discuss

2:07:06separately? I'll look to my left first.

2:07:08Council toolak any

2:07:14Anybody

2:07:21on my right?

2:07:24Okay, I will take item chief. Um, other

2:07:27than those, all in favor? I motion? I'm

2:07:30sorry.

2:07:31>> E.

2:07:34Yes. E.

2:07:37>> Okay. Other. All in favor? I motion

2:07:41carries. Okay. Uh,

2:07:45Takoviac, let's take D first, please.

2:07:47>> Sure. Um, so, uh, item D, actually, let

2:07:52me just pop this up here, but item D is

2:07:54a communication from myself, um, to the

2:07:57honorable Terren Iver, our city council

2:07:59president, regarding Smithfield AB and

2:08:01road work. Um, so this has been, um, a

2:08:05communication I've been having with the

2:08:07residents on Smithfield AB. If you think

2:08:09about blossoms down to the border of

2:08:12Providence, Blossoms Flower to the

2:08:14Border of Providence, they had in May,

2:08:17April, May of of this year, they had

2:08:19road work or I not really road work, but

2:08:21work done from Rhode Island Energy. Um,

2:08:24and then that road work was patched up.

2:08:26Since it was patched up, they have felt

2:08:29vibrations in their house with trucks

2:08:32going over it. Uh, they're starting to

2:08:34see cracks. Um, their quality of life

2:08:37has gone down. it has really become a

2:08:40quite an issue for the residents and the

2:08:42business um that received that road

2:08:45work. Uh we have done some backend work.

2:08:48Uh we reached out to our own DBW trying

2:08:51to connect us with Red Island Energy.

2:08:53They did come out admit that there was

2:08:55some patching issues, repatched um some

2:08:58of the the work they had done. There was

2:09:00no change to what was happening to the

2:09:02houses. Um the residents and myself have

2:09:05tried to reach out to DOT uh Rhode

2:09:07Island Energy, Rhode Island Energy

2:09:09parent company, just trying to get some

2:09:12solution and some resolution for these

2:09:14residents and businesses. um especially

2:09:17the residents who have invested in their

2:09:19properties and now they can't even enjoy

2:09:22it and are starting to actually see

2:09:23structural work have um reached out to

2:09:26attorneys to see have reached out to

2:09:28structural engineers are trying to get

2:09:30as much work as they can do to try to

2:09:32prevent that further damage. So, I

2:09:34really love the council support and

2:09:37trying to communicate with Rhode Island

2:09:39Energy, um, even our own DPW if they

2:09:42have any advice on what we can do to get

2:09:45this road work fixed up properly so

2:09:48these people can enjoy their quality of

2:09:50life on the street, especially before

2:09:52the winter comes because, as we know,

2:09:54there's going to be no paving in the

2:09:55winter time. Um, but they're going to

2:09:57continue to be failing the bumps during

2:09:59the winter and the damage to their

2:10:01property is going to continue. Um, so I

2:10:04would love to send a communication with

2:10:06the council support to uh DOT to Rhode

2:10:09Island Energy CCing RDPW as well and um

2:10:14I don't know if anybody has a suggestion

2:10:16of anybody else we could contact but

2:10:18something needs to be done for these

2:10:19residents. It is at this point I mean

2:10:22how they can't live at this point.

2:10:23They're being hed up. It is quite a

2:10:25nuisance and they don't deserve it.

2:10:28>> Okay. I think think we can all agree,

2:10:29council. I I mentioned to you offline

2:10:32that there was a state law passed a

2:10:35couple years ago. Proves you might

2:10:37remember this requiring curb to curb

2:10:40paving. Right. So, uh, Rick, the motion

2:10:43is to do I have a second on the motion.

2:10:46>> Second.

2:10:46>> Second by council. Motion is to send a

2:10:49communication to uh primarily to Rhode

2:10:52Island Energy. Copy to Department of

2:10:55Transportation or actually to Rhode

2:10:57Island Energy and Department of

2:10:58Transportation copy to our little DPW

2:11:01and let's please copy the solicitor's

2:11:03office and in the letter ask them how

2:11:07they intend to remedy the situation

2:11:11especially in light of if you could look

2:11:12up the statutory site for the

2:11:14requirement for curb curve bathing. Um,

2:11:17and then

2:11:19copy the solicitor as well, so that if

2:11:21we have to kind of inch it forward a

2:11:25little bit with a a more suggestion of

2:11:27adherence to that statute, I think we'd

2:11:30be in better shape. Council Ghel.

2:11:34Um,

2:11:36yeah. While we've got um DPW director

2:11:39here, uh Chris, if if Rhode Island

2:11:43Energy turns around and digs up a road,

2:11:45they only partially they wait for it to

2:11:48settle and then they always schedule it

2:11:51for the next year. Is that the is that

2:11:54usually the case?

2:11:59>> Chris, if you guys could come up,

2:12:00please. We want to don't want to get in

2:12:02a bad habit.

2:12:07The issue the issue with this one is

2:12:09because um Smithfield is uh under the

2:12:14control of Brown DT.

2:12:15>> Yeah.

2:12:16>> So Brown energy in directly working with

2:12:20them for their permits. It's not like a

2:12:23regular street that we can restrict or

2:12:25or restore and then go back after the

2:12:28RA. So if it was a noble city street or

2:12:32part of the city infrastructure, we

2:12:35could go and do the repair and then back

2:12:36charge R energy or or pull their

2:12:39permits.

2:12:40>> And I think that's the why I'm asking

2:12:42the question. If we don't have to wait

2:12:43that long, if there's a way to bump it

2:12:45up on the list so that it gets repaid

2:12:48sooner,

2:12:49>> it it's it's not raw control that it's a

2:12:52state road.

2:12:55>> Yeah. Not to cut you off. Um I've been

2:12:57working with with the counselor on this

2:12:59that we we reached out to right out of

2:13:03they came out did some patch from my

2:13:05understanding there's still some

2:13:07additional work and at that time it's

2:13:10supposed to be restored but um you know

2:13:13I can't force around DOT to Could you

2:13:16well then could we include it in and

2:13:19let's include in the letter if you would

2:13:21Rick uh a strong suggestion to do

2:13:26make energy adhere to the statuto

2:13:29requirement of curb curve state road.

2:13:32>> Yeah.

2:13:33>> It's a state road but it's affecting

2:13:35res.

2:13:36>> Yes.

2:13:39>> Yes.

2:13:40>> No. And I Yes, please. And I appreciate

2:13:42that. And if onation

2:13:44um strongly suggest some resolution

2:13:47quickly.

2:13:48>> Yes. with the with uh the slow down at

2:13:53best um asphalt production in the fall.

2:13:56>> It's we're requesting an immediate

2:14:00response.

2:14:01>> Got it. All right. Thank you. Is that

2:14:04good, Council?

2:14:04>> Yes. Appreciate it. Thank you.

2:14:06>> That both you and Council Gregor are on

2:14:08item E.

2:14:09>> Did we take a vote on a vote?

2:14:10>> I'm sorry. All in favor?

2:14:12>> I opposed. Motion carried. I'm sorry.

2:14:15So item E is the communication from the

2:14:18honorable Marina Marcoia uh to the

2:14:21honorable Terrence Mercer, city council

2:14:23president of Mashik Industrial Highway.

2:14:26Um as we heard during public comment uh

2:14:28from three of our speakers who spoke

2:14:30very well about the issue that's going

2:14:31on there. Uh it has come to my attention

2:14:34that there's some ongoing issues with

2:14:36illegal overnight and long-term parking

2:14:39along that highway inclave

2:14:42to that is obviously that then there's

2:14:44environmental issues with dumping work

2:14:46on the street and all the other stuff

2:14:48that comes with it that should not be on

2:14:50our public street. Um I I attached

2:14:54pictures to my community the counselors

2:14:56can see that those that was during the

2:14:58day. Um, and it was chalk full. And even

2:15:01today, I drove by again, chalk full. And

2:15:04there were people actually in the Galago

2:15:06uh field there walking their dogs,

2:15:09playing soccer. So, it was trying to be

2:15:11used. And I could see I was like, where

2:15:13parking because it was full. Um, the

2:15:16issues are really impacting those who

2:15:19regulated that area. Obviously, Nets and

2:15:21their employees and their and they are a

2:15:24long-term community partner, business

2:15:26partner of ours. you have the soccer

2:15:27players and families that are using that

2:15:29recreational field. Uh and in

2:15:31particularly that is during the evening

2:15:33hours. Um you know and the the the

2:15:37street right next to it there is a

2:15:40community housing that is for children

2:15:42and has children and families and they

2:15:44are also using that park and that is a

2:15:46street right next to them that goes down

2:15:48to Higuson where we have a brand new

2:15:50school in our system. Um what is also

2:15:53noticeable as everybody's commented is

2:15:55the litter of the dumping. Um there's

2:15:57streams back there. So you can imagine

2:15:59what is really being put into those

2:16:01streams from these um trucks. Um next

2:16:04has testified that you know they're

2:16:06having parking challenges when it comes

2:16:08to their students attending classes when

2:16:10it has snowed. The trucks are remaining

2:16:12there. And these are not just box

2:16:14trucks. These are huge truck trailers.

2:16:17There's trailers that are abandoned. And

2:16:19I want to make it clear. I have

2:16:21tremendous respect for um truck drivers.

2:16:24I am a daughter of one. So, I understand

2:16:27um the important work they do. I

2:16:29understand their lifestyle. I get it

2:16:31that you know they're coming home for a

2:16:33certain time and going back to work. I

2:16:35understand all of that.

2:16:38But at the same time, we really need to

2:16:40be making sure that our existing orders

2:16:43are being enforced and they're there for

2:16:44a reason and that this rail roadway

2:16:47remains safe and accessible for the

2:16:49business, the student, residents, the

2:16:51families, our recreational users who are

2:16:53relying on that every day. Um, so I'm

2:16:56hoping with the support of my colleagues

2:16:58that we um we are um making

2:17:02communication to our police department

2:17:04that we are increasing our enforcement

2:17:06of our current ordinances regarding

2:17:08overnight truck and trailer parking um

2:17:11abandoned and unattended

2:17:14uh trailers, illegal dumping, and the

2:17:16other parking violations as well as just

2:17:20I mean all of it just increased traffic,

2:17:22but they're speeding on that uh roadway

2:17:24as well. So, I think ultimately the

2:17:26issue is we just need more enforcement.

2:17:29Um, and so I'm hoping with the support

2:17:31of my colleagues here, we can send that

2:17:33communication and start a difference on

2:17:35that roadway for everybody.

2:17:37>> Thank you, Council. Before we take that

2:17:38as a motion council, did you have

2:17:40anything you want to add? You asked for

2:17:42that item as well.

2:17:44>> This may fully support uh

2:17:48councs and again is by Molly Henry from

2:17:53the green life and with the grants of

2:17:56improving the interest to give their

2:17:58much needed park and improve it is you

2:18:02know is crucial. So appreciate

2:18:04everybody's efforts and I just want to

2:18:06say absolutely not just for the

2:18:09environmental factors but how it's

2:18:11affecting local business uh and the kids

2:18:15and the residents from KIA court.

2:18:18>> So can I make I I do want to add that uh

2:18:22has put up signs of no um overnight

2:18:24parking to make I I that which is great

2:18:28but obviously that's not enough and it

2:18:30hasn't been working. We do have the

2:18:32current ordinance so that um vehicles

2:18:3410,000 pounds, which all these are,

2:18:36should not be parking overnight. Um and

2:18:39then I know DPW is supposed to pick up

2:18:42of trash and uh sort of bigger items on

2:18:46the road. I just want to make sure that

2:18:47we continue to be doing that as well.

2:18:49>> All right. So, councelor, if I am

2:18:51articulating it correctly, the motion

2:18:53seconded by councelor Greor is a

2:18:56communication to

2:18:59uh the police department, DPW, and

2:19:02zoning, primarily the police department

2:19:05to make sure that they are enforcing.

2:19:08We've got a number of different

2:19:09ordinances play here. There is an

2:19:11ordinance that is no overnight parking

2:19:13for vehicles 10,000 pounds or greater

2:19:16GPW. Uh that's a box trucks in a box

2:19:20trucks up to tractor trailers. We al

2:19:23also have an ordinance that says there

2:19:25is no parking there's no parking of or

2:19:27leaving trailers overnight. So attached

2:19:31or detached doesn't matter what the GBW

2:19:34trailer.

2:19:35>> So asking asking the police department

2:19:38to enforce those ordinances about

2:19:40parking there. Um I will say this as my

2:19:44day job. I know that towing those

2:19:46vehicles is a very expensive

2:19:49proposition. It's not like a Honda

2:19:51Accord. Um,

2:19:54you know, maybe

2:19:57starting with a sticker on them at the

2:19:59first. I don't know that you're going to

2:20:00get that many to get down there and do

2:20:02it. It's a nonconceptual towing. You

2:20:04know, an orange sticker on it. You got

2:20:07till tomorrow to get it out or you know,

2:20:09whatever the case may be. I'm just

2:20:12suggesting that as a most practical way,

2:20:15but if the police department says we're

2:20:18going to tow all out of here and let

2:20:19them let the toward sort it sort it out,

2:20:22that's that's fine with me, too. So, um,

2:20:26do you have a preference on their

2:20:28approach?

2:20:30>> Um, I would like I don't want to use the

2:20:32word aggressive, but I think urgent,

2:20:34whatever their approach, the most urgent

2:20:37that they decide is best is what I would

2:20:39want. Um,

2:20:41>> okay. That's the be that's the best way

2:20:42to put it.

2:20:43>> Yeah. The most urg I think the most

2:20:44urgent approach I would also request

2:20:46that maybe for the next um two weeks a

2:20:50month or as long as they can do it have

2:20:52more presence on the road. Um so not

2:20:55even just driving by to just ticket

2:20:57who's there but show that there's a

2:20:59presence and that we have taken notice.

2:21:00>> Yes. I think it's it's kind of out of

2:21:02sight out of mind now.

2:21:03>> Yeah. Um, and clearly if it's not a

2:21:06problem 10 feet down the road over the

2:21:09lines of Lincoln, it shouldn't be a

2:21:10problem here. So, um, and then asking

2:21:14DVDW to do what they can about the

2:21:16litter and the debris.

2:21:18>> Um, was it something else you wanted to?

2:21:21Oh, zoning.

2:21:22>> Zoning. Yep.

2:21:23>> Uh, you know, that's kind of a a joint

2:21:25effort between police zoning on on

2:21:27illegal dumping.

2:21:29You get the we get the the message that

2:21:32we want to send to those three

2:21:34departments. Yes.

2:21:34>> Yes.

2:21:35>> I think that covers it all.

2:21:37>> All right. Any further discussion?

2:21:41>> Okay. All in favor of sending that

2:21:42communication.

2:21:43>> I

2:21:45motion carries.

2:21:47Um item G is communication from the

2:21:50zoning director to uh the Pucket City

2:21:53Council regarding our request that they

2:21:56look into the property and Arrogance

2:21:58Park Plaza uh for property inspection

2:22:01and code violations. Uh the the response

2:22:04from the zoning director is that they

2:22:06they did note a number of violations, um

2:22:13overgrowth, uh platforms hanging off,

2:22:17and a whole host of other things where

2:22:19they have started the zoning enforcement

2:22:22process. So, I appreciate that going out

2:22:24there. Um, there was a story in Valley

2:22:27Breeze a couple days ago about I guess

2:22:29it was last week and I had been stopped

2:22:32by two different people

2:22:34who

2:22:36were thrilled that we were addressing

2:22:39this issue. So, um, stay tuned. On the

2:22:42on another note, they are actually

2:22:44building another building on the part

2:22:47side next to the Taco Bell, uh, which I

2:22:51hear is going to be a witness, but it is

2:22:54a step in the right direction, but

2:22:55there's still so much disrepair on the

2:22:58rest of that property on the Pucket

2:22:59side. U, so I appreciate them getting

2:23:03the ball rolling. Thank you. Uh, item

2:23:06three.

2:23:13Item three council dragon

2:23:19communication from Andrew the MCN

2:23:22supervisor distribution design energy to

2:23:25the pro city council submitting a

2:23:27petition

2:23:29three to be approved bending approval

2:23:32from the director public works

2:23:35moved by councelor dra second

2:23:38Bio communication

2:23:42energy levels of Kentucky City Council

2:23:45submitting petition for installation at

2:23:46freight street to be approved pending

2:23:48the approval director of public works.

2:23:49The motion for file of communication.

2:23:51All in favor? I opposed. Motion carries.

2:23:55Number four, communication form is

2:23:57honored. Mayor Donald

2:23:59of Tucker City Council make the

2:24:01following reappoint as a member of the

2:24:03personnel board for confirmation.

2:24:05Patricia Martinez, 142 Oakland Avenue,

2:24:08Wuck, Rhode Island, 02861. Term expires

2:24:11the first Monday in January 30 2032. Uh

2:24:15I call for approval. I roll vote. Second

2:24:17move by councelor Wenhain, second by

2:24:19councelor Rubio and councelor.

2:24:23uh communication from his honor mayor

2:24:25Donald

2:24:26Pucket City Council for medical

2:24:28following reappoint as a member of

2:24:30Tisher Martinez 142 Oakland Avenue for

2:24:33termin first Monday in January of 2032

2:24:37the motions for confirmation on roll

2:24:38call vote is there any discussion

2:24:41call the roll sorry

2:24:43>> I'm sorry yes

2:24:45>> I just had a question these terms

2:24:48they're expiring on the first week.

2:24:53First Monday um every week of the year,

2:24:56right?

2:24:58>> The first Monday in January.

2:25:00>> Yeah. In January. Yes.

2:25:02>> Uh that's when the particular position

2:25:05is due to expire.

2:25:08>> This is a reappointment to a full term

2:25:10that expires the first Monday in January

2:25:1320.

2:25:15Yeah. So, is it expiring this coming

2:25:17January? Just I'm just trying to

2:25:20understand

2:25:21>> I would imagine so that's why he's here

2:25:23in front of us.

2:25:25>> Okay.

2:25:26>> Yeah.

2:25:28>> So,

2:25:30so that's like I mean I was looking at

2:25:32these some of them are six year ter

2:25:35they're expiring the first week in

2:25:38January. I'm just questioning the

2:25:39propriety of the outgoing administration

2:25:42of making appointments at the time when

2:25:44they no longer be uh in that position

2:25:47because that's what it comes down to. Um

2:25:49>> well, and the first Monday, he'll still

2:25:52be the mayor, but you can vote no or you

2:25:54can vote yes.

2:25:56>> I'm sorry. As of January 4th, which

2:25:59would be the first week of January

2:26:02>> first Monday.

2:26:02>> Yeah, first Monday. That's be January

2:26:054th. Um the new mayor will be taking

2:26:07over. I I I don't

2:26:12the the motion is still be you can you

2:26:14can vote yes or you can vote no.

2:26:16>> Okay.

2:26:17>> Clerk

2:26:19President Murphy.

2:26:20>> Yes.

2:26:20>> Council.

2:26:21>> Yes.

2:26:22>> Council Kodair.

2:26:23>> Yes.

2:26:23>> Dr. Greger.

2:26:24>> No. For a reason I articulated.

2:26:27>> Council Moran.

2:26:28>> I'm sorry. Council Rubio.

2:26:30>> Yes.

2:26:30>> Council SC.

2:26:31>> Yes.

2:26:32>> Council W.

2:26:33>> Yes. Six to one. Item number five is

2:26:35communication from Miss Rev to the

2:26:38honorable members city council

2:26:39submitting the following reappoint as a

2:26:41member of the advisory commission on

2:26:43arts and culture for confirmation.

2:26:44Advisory commission on ops and culture

2:26:47Jane Lawson 255 rice street part 02861.

2:26:51This term will expire on the first

2:26:53Monday of October 2029. I call for

2:26:55confirmation for a vote.

2:26:57>> Move by council second by councelor code

2:27:00from miss mayor Donald

2:27:03city council submitting the following

2:27:04reappointment as a member of the

2:27:05advisory commission on arts and culture

2:27:07Jane Larson 255 Rice Street for the next

2:27:11October of 2029. The motion is for

2:27:14confirmation on a roll call vote. Is

2:27:15there any discussion?

2:27:18Cler.

2:27:19>> President Mercy.

2:27:20>> Yes.

2:27:21>> Council Roujo.

2:27:22>> Yes.

2:27:22>> Council Kodair.

2:27:23>> Yes. Council Gregor,

2:27:25>> yes.

2:27:26>> Council Rubio,

2:27:27>> yes.

2:27:28>> Council,

2:27:29>> yes.

2:27:30>> Council Wy,

2:27:31>> yes.

2:27:31>> Seven to Z.

2:27:36>> Item number six is a communication from

2:27:39Gravian to the honorable members of the

2:27:41Paka City Council submitting the

2:27:43following reappoint as a member of the

2:27:45planning commission for confirmation.

2:27:47Planning Commission, Elizabeth Crowley,

2:27:5041 Kipper Street, Paka, Marina, 02860.

2:27:55Term expires the first Monday, January

2:27:582020 2032nd.

2:28:02I call for approval on a roll call vote.

2:28:04>> Second move by councelor Kodas,

2:28:06councelor Rou on a communication from

2:28:08his mayor Donald Argra [clears throat]

2:28:10to the Al Kentucky city council spending

2:28:12the following reappoint as a member of

2:28:14the planning commission. Elizabeth Cwley

2:28:1741 Keeper Street for a trip expires

2:28:19first Monday in January of 2000 I'm

2:28:21sorry 2032 uh motion for confirmation on

2:28:23a roll call vote is there any discussion

2:28:27and call the role president Mercer

2:28:29>> yes

2:28:29>> councelor Riojo

2:28:30>> yes

2:28:30>> council kodair

2:28:31>> yes

2:28:32>> councelor Greor

2:28:33>> no for the reason I on the last

2:28:35appointment reappointment I mean

2:28:37>> councelor Rubio

2:28:38>> yes

2:28:39>> councier

2:28:40>> yes

2:28:40>> councelor

2:28:41>> yes six to one number seven the

2:28:43communication just one Second Mark Rick,

2:28:46last time did you say seven and correct

2:28:47yourself to say six?

2:28:49>> No, it was 70 to zero.

2:28:50>> It was 70 to zero. You said yes before

2:28:53this one.

2:28:54>> No, I I know, but I thought you had

2:28:56corrected yourself and said seven

2:28:57>> and then I realized I didn't need to

2:28:59correct myself.

2:29:00>> All right. Thank you. I'm sorry,

2:29:01Council.

2:29:02>> No, because on that one actually

2:29:05>> No, I I knew that. I just thought he

2:29:08something different and I didn't know I

2:29:10caught it correctly or not.

2:29:12>> Um, yeah. Number seven, the

2:29:14communication as mayor Donald Dog

2:29:17Rivier. The honorable members of

2:29:18Kentucky City Council submit following

2:29:20reappoint as member of the purchasing

2:29:22board for confirmation. Nancy Pellet 63

2:29:25Cer Street, Puck, Rhode Island, 0261.

2:29:28Term expires the first Monday of January

2:29:30of 2030. I call for approval on roll

2:29:33call vote.

2:29:34>> Second. I move by council. Second by

2:29:36council will second by a communication

2:29:39from his mayor Donald Agrevy to the

2:29:41privacy of Pucket City Council

2:29:42submitting the filing reappoint to the

2:29:44purchasing board Nancy Pelier 63 Colton

2:29:48Street for travel expires the first

2:29:49Monday in June 2030.

2:29:52Uh motion for a confirmation on a roll

2:29:55call vote. Any discussion? Clerk will

2:29:58call the role.

2:30:00>> President Mercer.

2:30:01>> Yes.

2:30:02>> Councelor Roujo.

2:30:03>> Yes.

2:30:03>> Councilor Kodair.

2:30:04>> Yes. Councelor Greger.

2:30:06>> No. For the same reason I articulated

2:30:08out Rubio.

2:30:09>> Just vote no if you'd like. You don't

2:30:10have to.

2:30:12>> Well, I just like my vote to be clear.

2:30:13That's all.

2:30:14>> Councilor Rubio.

2:30:15>> Yes.

2:30:16>> Council SC.

2:30:17>> Yes.

2:30:18>> Council Wilder.

2:30:19>> Yes. Six to one.

2:30:21>> Item number eight, a communication from

2:30:22his honor mayor Don Donald R. Grab to

2:30:25the honorable members of the protected

2:30:26city council submitting the following

2:30:28reappoint as a member of the water

2:30:29supply board for confirmation. James

2:30:32Bradford 118 Ferris Street Pucket Rhode

2:30:35Island 02861 term expires the first

2:30:38Monday in January 2031.

2:30:41I move to approve on a roll call vote.

2:30:43>> Second.

2:30:43>> I move by councelor Rubio second by

2:30:46council communication from his honor

2:30:48mayor Donald

2:30:49City Council following reappoint as a

2:30:51member of the water board James Bradford

2:30:54118 Ferry Street for a term that expires

2:30:56the first Monday in J.

2:30:58Uh motion is for confirmation on a roll

2:31:00call vote. Is there any discussion?

2:31:04Call the

2:31:04>> president Mercer?

2:31:05>> Yes.

2:31:05>> Council Rio,

2:31:06>> yes.

2:31:07>> Council Kodair,

2:31:07>> yes.

2:31:08>> Council Greor,

2:31:09>> no. For the same reason previously

2:31:11articulated.

2:31:12>> Council Rubio,

2:31:13>> yes.

2:31:13>> Council Kovak,

2:31:14>> yes.

2:31:14>> Council Wilder,

2:31:15>> yes.

2:31:16>> 6 to1.

2:31:17>> Number nine's communication from Mayor

2:31:19Don Mayor Donald. Rubian for the

2:31:21honorable members of Kentucky City

2:31:22Council submitting the following

2:31:23reappoint as a member of the zoning

2:31:25board of appeals for for confirmation.

2:31:27Paul Mum 39 Booth Street Pucket Found

2:31:31261 expires the first Monday in January

2:31:342032. Call for approval by RO vote.

2:31:38>> Second move by councelor Rou I'm councel

2:31:40second by councel

2:31:42from the mayor to city council

2:31:44submitting the file reappointment as a

2:31:46member of the zoning board of appeals to

2:31:47Paula A. Maloom 39 Ruth Street for a

2:31:52term that expires the first Monday in

2:31:53January of 2032 and the confirmation on

2:31:56a roll vote. Is there any discussion?

2:31:59Cler call the role.

2:32:00>> President Mercer.

2:32:01>> Yes.

2:32:02>> Councilor Roujo.

2:32:02>> Yes.

2:32:03>> Councier.

2:32:04>> Yes.

2:32:04>> Councilor Gregor

2:32:06>> again. No. For the same reason

2:32:08previously articulated.

2:32:09>> Councilor Rubio.

2:32:10>> Yes. Council

2:32:11>> Kovak.

2:32:12>> Yes. And thank you for them wanting to

2:32:13do the work again. Council

2:32:15>> Wen. Yes. 621.

2:32:24Oh, number 10 is a communication from

2:32:28to the honorable members of the council

2:32:30submitting the following reappoint as a

2:32:32member of the juvenile hearing

2:32:34Marabel Extravari Mloffen Esquire 87

2:32:37Barn A Kentucky Rhode Island. Perm

2:32:39expires the first Monday in December 29.

2:32:42I move for confirmation on a roll call

2:32:44vote.

2:32:45by councelor

2:32:47councelak

2:32:48by councelor that communication from his

2:32:50honor mayor Donald to the honorable

2:32:52members of Kentucky city council deing

2:32:55reappoint as a member of the juvenile

2:32:57a hearing board marel ml esquire 87

2:33:02Barnum Avenue for a term that expires

2:33:03first Monday in December of 2029. The

2:33:06motion is for confirmation on a roll

2:33:08call. Voters any discussion

2:33:10call the roll.

2:33:12>> President Merc.

2:33:13>> Yes. Council Roujo,

2:33:14>> yes.

2:33:15>> Council Podair,

2:33:15>> yes.

2:33:16>> Council Gregor,

2:33:17>> yes.

2:33:18>> Council Rubio,

2:33:19>> yes.

2:33:20>> Council Kovak, Council Wild,

2:33:22>> yes. Seven to zero.

2:33:24>> Item number 11, communication

2:33:27Mark Rebian to the honorable members of

2:33:29the Pucket City Council submitting the

2:33:31following reappoint as an alternate

2:33:34democratic member of the board of

2:33:36confirmation. Mary Lee E. Arsenal 7 Bell

2:33:40Green Avenue and Pucket Rhode Island 026

2:33:43term to expire the first Monday of

2:33:44January 2033. I move to approve on a

2:33:48roll call vote.

2:33:49>> Second move by councelor Rubio, second

2:33:51by councelor Roujo that communication

2:33:52from his honor mayor Donald Reb to the

2:33:55city council subitting the following

2:33:57reappoint as an alternate democratic

2:33:59member of the board of canvas e arsenal

2:34:027 Avenue for a term that expires first

2:34:04Monday January 2033.

2:34:07Motions for confirmation on a roll call

2:34:10vote. Is there any discussion?

2:34:13>> Call the roll.

2:34:14>> President Mercer.

2:34:16>> Councilor Roua.

2:34:17>> Yes.

2:34:17>> Council Kodair.

2:34:18>> Yes.

2:34:18>> Council Greger.

2:34:20>> No. For the same reason.

2:34:22>> Council Rubio.

2:34:23>> Yes.

2:34:24>> Council SC.

2:34:25>> Yes.

2:34:25>> Council Wild.

2:34:26>> Yes. 621. Number 12 is an ordinance

2:34:28repealing and replacing the scheduled

2:34:30pay rates for local 251 in the section

2:34:3388-12 of the code of ordinances city of

2:34:36bucket 1996 teenst 2026 to 2029. I call

2:34:40for approval for a second passage on a

2:34:42roll call vote

2:34:43>> second. I move by councelor Wen Hate,

2:34:45second by councelor Kodia that placing

2:34:49the schedule of pay rates for local 251

2:34:51and section 88-12

2:34:53of the code of ordinances the city of

2:34:55Kentucky 1996 regarding teamsters 2026

2:34:58to 2029. This is second passage on a

2:35:01roll call vote. Is there any discussion?

2:35:04>> Cler call the roll.

2:35:05>> President Mercer.

2:35:06>> Yes.

2:35:08>> Yes.

2:35:08>> Councelor Codair.

2:35:09>> Yes.

2:35:10>> Council Greger.

2:35:11>> Yes.

2:35:12>> Councelor Rubio. Yes.

2:35:14>> Council SCAC.

2:35:15>> Yes.

2:35:16>> Council W.

2:35:17>> Yes. 7 to zero.

2:35:18>> The finance committee returns the

2:35:19following ordinance with recommendation

2:35:21for approval. An ordinance repealing and

2:35:22replace

2:35:253960 in section of 88-12 the code of

2:35:27ordinance in the city of 1996. Add a

2:35:31parking enforcement officer for first

2:35:33passage. A roll call vote.

2:35:36>> Second.

2:35:37>> Then moved by councelor Welen seconded

2:35:39by councelor Rubio. The finance

2:35:42committee returns the following

2:35:43ordinance with with recommendation for

2:35:45approval. An ordinance repealing and

2:35:47replacing the schedule of pay rates for

2:35:48local 396 and section 12 of the code of

2:35:52ordinance of the city of Kentucky

2:35:54regarding adding a parking enforcement

2:35:56officer. This is uh motion as first

2:35:59passage on a roll called vote. Is there

2:36:01any discussion?

2:36:03>> Council Greg,

2:36:04she sent back

2:36:07going to be assuming that position.

2:36:09>> I'm sorry. So decommunication of a

2:36:12sudden going into a shastic river issue

2:36:15is

2:36:17[laughter]

2:36:20not a bad idea.

2:36:22>> That's after the next meeting and second

2:36:23passage.

2:36:25We we'll have it in her on her

2:36:27onboarding packet first assignment.

2:36:30Okay. Uh any further discussion? CL

2:36:32call.

2:36:33>> President Mercer.

2:36:34>> Yes.

2:36:34>> Dr. Roujo.

2:36:35>> Yes.

2:36:36>> Counc.

2:36:37>> Yes.

2:36:37>> Councelor Greger.

2:36:39>> Council. Yes.

2:36:40>> Council.

2:36:41>> Yes.

2:36:42>> Council Wilder.

2:36:43>> Yes. Seven to zero.

2:36:44>> Item number 14. The comm the committee

2:36:46on claims and pending suits returns the

2:36:48following claims or damages against the

2:36:51city. The following are to are is a

2:36:54recommendation to deny and be referred

2:36:57to. Carrie Cardardoso for 350 um 14 for

2:37:02a higher. Courtney Peter for the amount

2:37:04of $62312

2:37:06for a manhole. Uh Ryan Budro for the

2:37:10amount of $374.71,

2:37:14Timothy Bacco for the amount of

2:37:16$1,717.78

2:37:19for a vehicle damage. Carrie Sapata for

2:37:23property damage uh for two amounts. Uh

2:37:26first one is 1,172.50

2:37:29and the other one's 229.80.

2:37:33both all to again recommended to deny

2:37:36and refer to bedro.

2:37:38>> Second

2:37:39>> all being referred to the same place.

2:37:40Correct.

2:37:40>> Correct.

2:37:41>> Been moved by councelor

2:37:43second by councelor Roujo that one two

2:37:46three four five claims against the city

2:37:50be denied and referred to of the first

2:37:52is Carrie Cardardoza in the amount of

2:37:55330 $350.14.

2:37:58Cody Ped in the amount of $623.12.

2:38:02Ryan Butro in the amount of $374.71,

2:38:05Timothy Patrico III in the amount of

2:38:08$1,717.78.

2:38:11And Karen Zabata uh amount alternative

2:38:14amounts of $1,172.50

2:38:17or $2,29.80

2:38:21motion. Yes. Vote is to deny and refer.

2:38:24So call the room.

2:38:26>> President M. Yes. Councelor Roujo.

2:38:29>> Yes.

2:38:30>> Councelor Kodair.

2:38:30>> Yes. Council Greger.

2:38:32>> Yes.

2:38:33>> Councelor Rubio,

2:38:34>> yes.

2:38:35>> Goat,

2:38:36>> yes.

2:38:36>> Council Wild,

2:38:37>> yes.

2:38:38>> Seven to zero.

2:38:39>> Barry Marshall for the amount of

2:38:4319 cents for entire motion is to

2:38:47refer to Providence Worester Railroad.

2:38:49>> Second

2:38:51move by councel group. my councelor uh

2:38:54Arujo, I'm sorry, that a claim of Sher

2:38:58Marshall in the amount of $266.19

2:39:01for a tire be denied and referred to

2:39:04Province on Worcester Railro. Any

2:39:06discussion? Cler.

2:39:12>> President Mercer.

2:39:13>> Yes. To deny your referral.

2:39:15>> Councilor Roujo.

2:39:16>> Yes.

2:39:16>> Council Kodair.

2:39:17>> Yes.

2:39:18>> Council Gregor.

2:39:19>> Council Rubio.

2:39:20>> Yes. [clears throat] Council W. Yes.

2:39:24Seven to zero.

2:39:26>> Cody Tavvaris by Progressive Sub,3183

2:39:34for fire vehicle damage. Uh a motion is

2:39:37>> second

2:39:39>> in that amount.

2:39:40>> Yes.

2:39:41>> Move by councelor Rubio. Second my

2:39:43council rule that a claim by Cody

2:39:45Tavvarus by Progressive Subregation in

2:39:48the amount of $1,3183

2:39:51cents for biome vehicle damage be

2:39:54approved. Any discussion on the approval

2:39:57clerk can call the role. President M.

2:40:00Council Roujo

2:40:01>> yes.

2:40:02>> Council Kodair.

2:40:02>> Yes.

2:40:03>> Council Gregor.

2:40:04>> Yes.

2:40:04>> Council Rubio.

2:40:05>> Yes.

2:40:06>> Council SC.

2:40:08>> Yes. Seven to zero. Antonia Ramos and

2:40:11Gers Santos in the amount of $2,100 for

2:40:15vehicle damage. Motion is to

2:40:17>> second the move by council

2:40:21>> Rubio

2:40:21>> Rubio still second by councel

2:40:25>> Rjo that a claim uh of Antonio Ramos and

2:40:29Gerson do Santos in the amount of $2,100

2:40:33even for being approved.

2:40:35>> Yes.

2:40:38Uh, any discussion on the approval?

2:40:41>> Call the role.

2:40:42>> President Mercer.

2:40:43>> Yes.

2:40:43>> Councelor Roujo. Yes. Counc. Yes.

2:40:46Council Gregor.

2:40:47>> Counc Rubio. Kovak. Council Wilder.

2:40:50>> Yes. 70 to zero.

2:40:53>> Okay. No further business coming.

2:40:56>> We adjourn for the evening.

2:40:57>> Move at councelor second by the entire

2:41:00city council that we adjourn our first

2:41:02meeting at the new chambers.

2:41:04We are journ.

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