2026-09-29 - Committee of the Whole

00:04Right.

00:30the whole jug, jug right there

00:31behind you.

00:37Oh, I'm good, man. How are you?

00:40day.

00:43The right side of the daisy.

00:47You want to ask you what?

00:47OK.

00:50weather's giving me a bit of a

00:51break.

00:54Jesus.

00:58Good.

00:58Mr.

01:02OK, Chairman, up with the chair.

01:06Good evening. Um, it is now 5:30

01:07. I'm gonna call this meeting of

01:09the committee of the whole to

01:11order. Please rise and join us

01:11for the Pledge of Allegiance.

01:14Pledge allegiance pledge

01:15allegiance.

01:15Like.

01:16Of the United States of America.

01:18To the republic.

01:21One.

01:22Under God.

01:24Indivisible within the two

01:26unions justice for all.

01:31Thank you. um.

01:33Before we get started tonight,

01:35um, I, I know everyone's

01:36probably seen this in the, in

01:37the news, um,

01:39We lost one of our police

01:41officers last week. Um, so I'd

01:42like to take a, a moment of

01:44silence to recognize Officer

01:46Baker, um, and send our thoughts

01:48and prayers to his family and

01:50SPD for their loss.

02:08Thank you very much everyone, um

02:09.

02:09again.

02:11thoughts to his family.

02:13At work and at home.

02:17Hey, Mr. Clerk, will you please

02:18take the roll?

02:21Ma'am, Alderman Cox here

02:23Alderman Gregory here. Alderman

02:25Williams here, Alderman Rockford

02:27, all the women purchased all

02:29the women in Toronto, Alderman

02:31Carlson here Carlson Carlson

02:32here Carlson Carlson here,

02:33Alderman Conley present Alderman

02:36Alderman Hanauer here, Mary,

02:39Jeremy. Don't demote me like

02:40that.

02:43Thank you. No, I'm not sure

02:44about that. Um, I will accept

02:45the motion for the approval of

02:48the September 8th so moved and

02:50seconded. Any discussion, seeing

02:51none. All those in favor? I

02:53oppose. The ayes have it. Um, we

02:55do not have any presentations.

02:58Right, um, but we do, as I

02:59understand, have an executive

03:00session.

03:02That's correct, we need a motion

03:04to go into executive session

03:06under 2C11 pending improbable

03:08litigation in 2C21 review of

03:10executive session. I'll make

03:11that motion, Mr. Chair. I moved

03:12and seconded. All those in favor

03:15opposed, we are.

03:16Off to exec.

03:37Right

03:37OK.

03:40I think

03:44And

03:51I

03:51That's a good one.

03:54I.

03:54Jim.

03:58Yeah.

04:01Yeah.

04:01Thank you

04:08It

04:08I was gonna say.

04:16Yeah

04:16OK, we are back in session.

04:20Um, clerk, we are ready for

04:22ordinances tabled remaining in

04:23committee.

04:29Ordinance tabled or 2026339.

04:33Nothing on that. OK, ordinances

04:35for committee's consideration.

04:36OK.

04:39Oh sorry, can I get a motion to

04:41come back in executive come back

04:41in executive move come back in

04:42executive the second any

04:44discussion, seeing none. All

04:44those in favor, opposed. The

04:46ayes have it. I will move on to

04:47CWLP. Thank you, Clerk. CWLP

04:512026 410 is the ordinance

04:52accepting bids and authorizing a

04:56contract UE 270733 outdoor 145

05:00KV circuit breakers with rebar

05:03Electric Company Inc. in the

05:04amount not to exceed

05:09$1,739,398.21 for the Office of

05:10Public Utilities. We consent.

05:11Would second for consent. Any

05:12discussions, seeing none. All

05:12those in favor, opposed. The

05:14ayes have it.

05:162026-414 is as the ordinance

05:17authorizing the purchase of new

05:20sewer infrastructure and

05:21geographic information systems.

05:22Sorry, clerk, we're on 411.

05:24Where you live? I skipped a page

05:28.

05:28Uh, thank you.

05:31Big thumbs, sorry.

05:33This is what happened when CWLP

05:34didn't have ordinances last time

05:35. OK, thank you.

05:382026 411 is an order authorizing

05:42various FY 2027 budgetary

05:44transfers and the amount total

05:48$1,195,000 from certain capital

05:50projects accounts to various

05:51operating capital expense

05:53accounts for the Office of

05:54Public Utilities.

05:54consent motion to second for

05:56consent. Any discussion, seeing

05:58none. All those in favor,

05:59opposed. The ayes have it. 2026

06:01412 is the no authorizing the

06:03purchase of a 2 air compressor

06:06for the Dolman Unit 4 with John

06:08Henry Foster Company for the

06:11Office of Public Utilities

06:11consent a second for consent.

06:12Any discussion, seeing none. All

06:15those in favor opposed. The ayes

06:17have it. 2026 413 is the North's

06:19accepting bi in authorizing the

06:21execution of a contract UE

06:23270232.

06:24Inside wire, high wire, uh,

06:26highway lighting, traffic

06:27systems with B&B Electric in the

06:29in in the amount not to exceed

06:33$750,000 for the electric

06:34division of the Office of Public

06:35Utilities for consent move

06:38seeing none. All those in favor,

06:40opposed. The ayes have it. 2026

06:42before 2014 is the Norton's

06:44authorization to the purchase of

06:45new server infrastructure for

06:48the geographic information

06:49Systems GIS storage area network

06:52SAN with.

06:53Presidio Network Solutions LLC

06:55in the mountain not to exceed

07:01$221,260.40 to the Office of

07:02Public Utilities 2nd for consent

07:04. Any discussion?

07:05none. All those in favor opposed

07:07. The ayes have it. 2026 415 is

07:10the North's accepting and

07:11authorizing execution of a

07:12contract with Simming Bella

07:14Landfill for disposal of

07:16uncontainment debris for the

07:17amount not to exceed $500,000

07:19for the Office of Public

07:22Utilities motion

07:24Seeing none. All those in favor

07:26opposed. The ayes have it. 2026

07:29416 is the North's authorized in

07:30the city of Springfield-Sangwin

07:31County, Illinois to borrow funds

07:33from the Illinois Environmental

07:35Protection Agency's public water

07:37supply revolving loan program

07:39for lead service line

07:41replacement project for the

07:42Office of Public Utilities

07:43consent.

07:45Second motion is 2nd for consent

07:46. Any discussion?

07:48and I will point out this is a

07:50really great, um,

07:53We, we call it a loan. This is

07:54not a loan that's paid back, um,

07:57very, very pleased to see us

07:58getting more money like this, uh

07:59, for a lead service line

08:00replacement program.

08:02So, um, oh, sorry, Alderwoman.

08:03Oh no, you're fine. Um, yeah, I,

08:07it sounds really great. I think

08:09that we should have someone come

08:11speak to this, um, so that we

08:13and the public can be informed.

08:15How this is going to change.

08:17Hopefully.

08:20It will change our progress.

08:25purpose.

08:25Um, Scott Rogers.

08:28Yeah, do you just want to give

08:30us an overview of this and like

08:32is it going to allow us to do

08:34more or?

08:35Yeah, it's gonna do more. I

08:37forgot the dollar amount of the

08:38green.

08:38revolving line.

08:40Basically it's interest free

08:41loan.

08:43But

08:43It will allow us to do more. I

08:44don't have exact number. How

08:45many more, but it is going to be

08:49tract we added two census tracks

08:51.

08:52Both in ward

08:53One and World War 2 and 3.

08:55OK. So there are some additional

08:57items.

08:58Yes, it is.

09:01Right.

09:02So it's a.

09:03Da da.

09:08500 lead lead service lines lead

09:09, so that's in addition. So

09:10that'll be $1000 a year then,

09:12right?

09:13That would be the goal, yes, if

09:15we get 1000 if we can get enough

09:18.

09:19Labor and contractors to support

09:20, yes. OK, that's, that's

09:21amazing.

09:23Thank you. Thank you, uh,

09:25Alderman Gregory, yes, I just

09:27wanna say thank you, um, you

09:28know, especially for those

09:29census tracks while I was 16 and

09:3223, um, do have some, some.

09:35East side areas 42, um, not only

09:37covers the east side, but it

09:38does go north, uh, Rockford and,

09:39and.

09:46Thank you.

09:47But I, I, I do wanna thank you

09:48guys for your work and and.

09:50You know anything that we can do

09:51to get the word out and and.

09:54We're, we're always looking for

09:55money.

09:55Where we can get in.

09:57On top of that, I appreciate you

09:58. Can I just ask real quick,

10:00Alder McGregor, it sounds like

10:00you're cutting in and out. Is

10:03your mic just not OK, I just

10:05wanna make sure because we, we

10:06do get some comments about the

10:08mics. I'll make sure I send a

10:09thank you.

10:10Thank you, uh, Alderman, uh, any

10:12other comments or questions?

10:14on, thank you very much, um, we

10:16have a motion to second for

10:17consent. All those in favor? Aye

10:19opposed. The ayes have it.

10:222026 417 is an authorizing

10:24amendments to the lease with

10:29BBSSI assets LLC with the SF

10:31Uh, Madison wireless

10:32telecommunications antenna site

10:35for the Office of Public

10:36Utilities.

10:37Motion to second for consent. Um

10:38, Alderman Gregory, you just

10:39still in there?

10:41You wanna talk about this, Lise?

10:43Let's do it. All right, um, all

10:45those in favor, opposed? The

10:46ayes have it.

10:49Public Works 2026-418 is the

10:51North's authorizing purchase of

10:52temporary easement between the

10:53city of Springfield and Fresno

10:56Rentals LLC located 800 South

10:58Walnut in the amount not to

10:59exceed $2000 for the Office of

11:02Public Works motion to second

11:04for consent. Any discussion?

11:05Say none. All those in favor

11:06those oppose. The ayes have it.

11:092026, 419 is the Norton's

11:11authorized acceptance of right

11:12of way for the Bradford.

11:15For Bradfordton Road located at

11:16the north side of Wabash Avenue

11:18west of Hamlin Parkway for the

11:20Office of Public Works. Move to

11:21consent. Motion to second for

11:22consent. Any discussion?

11:25Seeing none of those in favor

11:26opposed. The ayes have it.

11:30General city business 2026-420

11:33ordinance authorizing Patricia

11:35Meyer, Terrie Young, Robert

11:36Frazier to the Springfield

11:37Planning and Zoning Commission.

11:392nd motion is 2nd to debate. I

11:41do know that we have, um,

11:43Two people in the room. I, I

11:45definitely see Mr. Frazier. Um,

11:46would you Terry, would you like

11:49to come up and just introduce

11:51yourselves.

11:52What up, Terry?

11:55I want to say, even before you

11:57start, thank you very much for

11:59volunteering to serve on what is

12:00one of the more complicated

12:02commissions.

12:03Yes, I want to just say thank

12:03you to.

12:05Hold the microphone to your face

12:05, please.

12:07I just want to say thank you to

12:09Mayor Busher and her

12:10administration for the

12:10confidence that they've shown in

12:12appointing me, uh, to the

12:15committee.

12:16Do not come to this commission

12:18claiming to know everything

12:19about planning and zoning, but I

12:20come prepared to learn, listen

12:22and ask questions, make a fair

12:24and informed decisions.

12:26what I bring is decades of

12:29business management, operations

12:31and community experience. I

12:33understand that decisions about

12:34development in neighborhoods,

12:35property and investment have a

12:37real consequence for people. I

12:39believe in good planning

12:40requires balance. We need

12:42economic development.

12:44Responsible growth, strong

12:45neighborhoods, and decisions

12:46that are long term interest of

12:48Springfield. I'm honored to

12:49serve. Thank you.

12:50Thank you very much.

12:52Robert's gonna make me look bad.

12:54I didn't have any prepared any

12:55prepared notes, but prepared I

12:55was born and raised here. I'm 63

12:57years old. I, I retired last

12:59December after a 31 year career

13:01with Hoosier Racing tires, so

13:03I've been in business myself in

13:05addition to that and look

13:06forward to serving and, and, uh,

13:07be happy to answer any questions

13:08if there are any. Thank you. Do

13:09you have any questions for these

13:10gentlemen? Thank you. Thank you

13:13both for your time. OK, so we

13:15have a motion to second for the

13:16debate agenda. I do just want to

13:17clarify for both of you, all

13:19appointments go on the debate

13:20agenda. That's not, that's

13:21nothing personal.

13:22OK, motion a second.

13:25All those in favor opposed? The

13:26ayes have it. 2026421 is the

13:30Norton's payment to Chad Carter,

13:32a CWLP maintenance worker for

13:34settlement of workers'

13:39compensation claim number

13:4424-WC017579 in the Mount not to

13:45exceed $56,0755.50. Move consent

13:49motion to second for consent. Is

13:50there any discussion? Seeing

13:51none, all those in favor?

13:52opposed. The ayes have it.

13:552026422 is the Norton's

13:56approving small business

13:57redevelopment.

13:57assistance to the business

13:58owners utilizing cannabis tax

14:00funds and the amount not exceed

14:02$800,000 in authorizing a

14:03supplemental appropriation in

14:04the amount of $750,000 for a

14:08restricted cannabis fund balance

14:09for the Office of Planning and

14:11Economic Development. Motion for

14:12consent. Second.

14:13Motion second for consent.

14:14Alderman Gregory. Uh, yes, um, I

14:15just have a few questions.

14:17Miss Amy.

14:31Um, first of all, I, I, you know

14:33.

14:34I just wanna thank you and your

14:35staff.

14:37Um, this has been a a uh a um.

14:41Important, important, important,

14:43um, round of funding and you

14:45know.

14:45This has not come without.

14:49My yapping, of course, right, um

14:50, but, but you and your staff

14:52has done a good job and, and you

14:54know I thought that that it

14:55would be best for me to say that

14:57publicly to you, um.

14:59I know you guys don't have a lot

15:01of staff, but you know, the, the

15:03time that you took with these

15:05applicants, um, going over

15:06things, going to Cab 19 like

15:07those things are not lost upon

15:09me and the East Side and those

15:12people who applaud in fact, um,

15:14this, this very round, um,

15:16expands beyond that and and so

15:18we, we, we truly appreciate you

15:19getting these things done, um,

15:21and I thank you for that and

15:23that's all my, my, my, uh, only

15:24thing I wanted to say to you.

15:25You're welcome. We just hope

15:27that we can help people build on

15:28their success and.

15:30build on their entrepreneurship,

15:31so thank you.

15:33Thank you very much. um, excited

15:35to see this money going out the

15:36door. So we have a motion in a

15:37second for consent. All those in

15:40favor? All opposed. The ayes

15:42have it. 2026 423 is the North's

15:45authorized execution of

15:46redevelopment agreement in the

15:47amount of $75,000 with Leon's

15:50Caps Inc.

15:50With the financial assistance

15:53for the property located 2508

15:55Cook Street, utilizing the Far

15:57East Tax increment finance funds

15:59through the Office of Planning

16:01and Economic Development. Motion

16:03to second for consent discussion

16:06.

16:07Um, Alderman Gregory, I'm sorry.

16:10I forgot, um, seeing none, all

16:11those in favor? All those

16:12opposed. The ayes have it.

16:162026424 is the North's

16:17authorizing acceptance of a

16:20proposal under RFPCS 26-22, and

16:23execution of an agreement with

16:25Carolyn Manjamojolo.

16:27Sorry about that.

16:28Uh

16:28For the purchase of city-owned

16:31property consisting of one

16:33vacant lot located at 718 South

16:3615th Street in the amount of

16:37$500 to the Office of Budget

16:38Management. Motion for consent.

16:39Motion to second for consent.

16:40I'm going to extend apologies

16:43for that name pronunciation.

16:45Sorry, I'm sorry I butchered

16:46that name. Sorry about that. Uh,

16:47do we have any discussion?

16:50Saying none. All those in favor?

16:51A opposed. The ayes have it. Um,

16:53we will move to unfinished

16:55business. Is there any

16:56unfinished business to come

16:56before the committee tonight.

16:58Alderman Purchase.

16:59Thank you, my screen here went

17:01blank. It's been a while since I

17:03talked about any unfinished

17:05business, but I wanted to um say

17:10I got 26,0632 steps in over the

17:14weekend from Mother Road Route

17:1666 and congratulations because

17:18we had a total of 1,498

17:22registered vehicles and 14 long

17:25blocks of plastic cars and it

17:27was the largest turnout in a 25

17:29year history, so kudos.

17:33And then last but not least,

17:35something really, really cool

17:36that we got to see was, um, a

17:40gentleman, um, he's with the

17:42National, uh, National Guard

17:43Black Hawks and they flew over

17:46our downtown and they went

17:47really slow so I was able to

17:49video and capture the moments

17:50and I and you just saw everybody

17:52stop and look, kids, I thought

17:53that was really cool too to see

17:55that go on so I'm looking

17:57forward to next year and thank

17:58you to all the staff, the city

18:00of Springfield, this took a good

18:02effort to bring this together.

18:03And it was a smooth process and

18:06everyone really enjoyed

18:07themselves and I got a lot of

18:09steps in.

18:11Thank you. I, I can't quite

18:12touch you on the step count, but

18:13I did get quite a few too. It

18:14was a really wonderful weekend.

18:16Thank you. Is there any other

18:18unfinished business?

18:19Then I am just going to remind

18:21everybody, and I apologize for

18:22not bringing this up at the

18:23beginning of September, but

18:24September was get your library

18:26card month.

18:27Um, so anyone in the community

18:28who doesn't have a library card,

18:31please do step into to visit our

18:33wonderful, wonderful staff at

18:35the Springfield Public Library.

18:37Um, they're getting the, the,

18:39Bookmobile out and into

18:40neighborhoods, but there's also

18:42a lot of resources even beyond

18:43books that are available for us

18:45all at our local library. So

18:46please check them out.

18:47Then we'll move to new business

18:48because they don't have new

18:49business tonight.

18:54Y'all look at me? I'm looking

18:55you know I'm, you know exactly

18:58why I'm looking at you. OK, um,

19:00we're gonna go for a record

19:01tonight. Um, seeing no new

19:04business, um, clerk we will move

19:06to citizen's request to address

19:06the committee.

19:07Yep.

19:08Wayne Kerr.

19:12Wayne Kerr

19:17Diane Shaw.

19:19Diane Shaw.

19:24I

19:30Blues.

19:31Good evening. It's my first time

19:32here, so I'm a little nervous.

19:35Welcome. Thank you. Nothing to

19:37be nervous about. Thank you for

19:39your service. Appreciate it.

19:40Thank you. So this is, I'm here

19:43to speak as a passionate

19:46collaborative alternative to the

19:48landlord registry.

19:50My name is Diane Charlotte and I

19:52am a Springfield resident in a

19:53proud retired Navy veteran.

19:56When it comes to housing in our

19:58city, I wear a variety of hats.

20:00I am a property owner, a

20:03landlord, a property manager,

20:04consultant, and a tenant.

20:06I live and breathe this

20:09ecosystem from every single

20:11angle.

20:12That is why I feel so deeply and

20:14passionate about this issue.

20:16My position is subtle, but it's

20:18backed by real world experience.

20:21I want what is best for

20:23Springfield, and that is why I'm

20:25standing here to advocate for a

20:27solution that actually works

20:29rather than a blanket landlord

20:32registry.

20:32Let's be honest about the

20:34landlord registry.

20:36It is meant to target out of

20:38state bad actors who neglect our

20:41neighborhoods, but a blanket we

20:43registry is a bureaucracy of

20:47dragnet. It penalizes our local

20:50housing providers and worst.

20:53The administrative fees will

20:56unavoidably be passed down

20:57driving up rent for our

20:59hardworking tenants.

21:00Now do not, do not misunderstand

21:02me. I agree that we need to

21:05ensure.

21:07Greater accountability with

21:09every property manager, landlord

21:11, focusing on a system standards

21:14rather than a single operator.

21:17Local housing providers must be

21:19held to high standards too, but

21:22we cannot achieve real system

21:24accountability by simply adding

21:26paperwork, creating barriers,

21:28and passing the costs down to

21:31renters who are already

21:32struggling to get by.

21:35Here's a solution in the Navy,

21:37we then solve Operation Crisis

21:40with registries and spreadsheets

21:41. We solved them with initiative

21:45.

21:45Training share standards and

21:47mutual respect.

21:48That is the exact mission behind

21:51tenant landlord boot camp.

21:53Initiative I have designed.

21:56We need proactive education, not

21:58reactive.

22:00By pardoning to offer focused,

22:03welcoming session, attended boot

22:05camp for financial literacy, a

22:07landlord boot camp for housing,

22:08cos, and property manager.

22:11boot camp for professional

22:13standards.

22:13We can build a system.

22:17Accountability from the ground

22:19up. The model invites everyone

22:21to the table as collaborators.

22:24Not adversary, it's not us

22:25against them.

22:28Conclusions and requests.

22:29We must change the mindset in

22:32Springfield. I care too much

22:34about this community, the

22:35renters and the local housing

22:37providers, which are the

22:38landlord.

22:40To adopt a policy that is

22:43unavoidably drive up renters and

22:45widen divide, which in my

22:47opinion, the renters would be

22:48the ones paying.

22:49But frankly, 5 minutes is not

22:52enough time, so I wish that

22:54sometime come back again and be

22:56more in detail and I apologize

22:58because I did have flyers to

22:59share with the council.

23:04Thank you. Thank you for coming

23:04in.

23:08Thank you Vanessa Vanessa Knox.

23:30Good evening everyone.

23:35I've been very

23:38Disturbed since Thursday?

23:42Actually makes my stomach just

23:43turn.

23:44Um,

23:46Been coming down here for a long

23:48time and an activist for a long

23:50time.

23:50Seen a lot of things in

23:52Springfield, good and bad.

23:55And what I saw Thursday.

23:58And why it's not being talked

24:00about.

24:01Why it's not on the news.

24:03Why no one is saying anything. I

24:04don't understand.

24:07We've had a lot of issues with

24:10police officers.

24:11Good and bad.

24:16But wanting a pickup truck.

24:19Hit a man walking down.

24:21The walkway.

24:24In the pedestrian lines,

24:26Thursday morning.

24:29Sheriff's deputy.

24:30I'm marked

24:31They've got truck.

24:34It's plowed into a making a left

24:36turn.

24:38It's not made the news anywhere

24:41that I've seen and I've been

24:42searching, other people search.

24:45I don't understand how.

24:48All the stuff that makes the

24:49news, all the stuff that's

24:50talked about here, even at city

24:52council, all the condolences

24:53that goes out. I don't know if

24:55the man died or if he's still

24:56alive. I pray he's still alive

24:57from being hit like that.

25:02But he deserves community

25:04support.

25:04Just like all the other cats and

25:06dogs and all the things that end

25:08up being talked about up here so

25:10much.

25:10And all the people and the

25:11important people.

25:14If you look at it, there's a lot

25:16of debate of folks downtown.

25:18Looking at all the goings and

25:20comings of of the people.

25:24Don't matter if they have rags

25:26on or suit.

25:27No matter if they're on a bike.

25:29Or driving a Mercedes, it

25:30doesn't matter.

25:32They deserve.

25:33Help.

25:35They deserve respect.

25:36And they deserve for the

25:37community to be able to reach

25:40out to them to offer their

25:42condolences. I don't know this

25:43man's name. I see him around.

25:45And I don't know his name. If

25:46anyone has it, I'd sure like to

25:48know to reach out to him as

25:50community people should, as they

25:51have to all the other people

25:54that I apologize to all the

25:55other people.

25:57That have had

25:59Things happen to them.

26:02Small and big that so many

26:04people have reached out to them.

26:05He deserves to be reached out to

26:07and I pray that he is alive.

26:08Sheriff came out.

26:12There's cameras everywhere

26:13around the county building,

26:14happened at 9th and Monroe.

26:16Thursday morning.

26:18This is what, 5 days later?

26:22Not making WICS. None of the

26:24news stations, radio stations or

26:25anything. This man was walking

26:27by himself, no rain, no

26:29distractions, and the Sangamon

26:30County officer in an unmarked.

26:34Pickup truck just smashed him

26:35and pushed him back about 6 ft.

26:38There were other people there as

26:40well.

26:43Why isn't this man being talked

26:44about?

26:46Why is this man not having

26:47something set up for him, be

26:49whatever injuries, if he's still

26:50alive, I don't know.

26:52Fire trucks took a little while.

26:54They got there. Everybody just

26:56stood around. Some had hands on

26:57their hips looking at him just

26:59wail and moan and cry the way he

27:00was.

27:03And dogs and cats make the news

27:06here.

27:06And a little spring patch.

27:09All the issues of the business,

27:10all the things about the weather

27:12, but this man was plowed down.

27:14And it could've, it very well

27:15could have been an accident. But

27:17either way.

27:19That man deserves to have.

27:22Someone reach out to him and

27:23help him as so many other ones

27:25have had help.

27:26And money and food and rides and

27:29condolences and flowers and

27:31things like that.

27:32The sheriff came out.

27:34Many of her deputies came out.

27:36Court securities all came out.

27:39Nothing is being said with that

27:41many people who finally came out

27:43there.

27:43Cameras are everywhere.

27:45Why is it not on the news?

27:49Why didn't anyone say anything

27:50about that man?

27:54I'm gonna personally.

27:57Give condolences to him.

27:59And that he get justice by just

28:01walking down the street by the

28:02county building and get plowed

28:04like that.

28:05Fast.

28:08I'm gonna give some condolences

28:09to that man.

28:11If anyone knows who he is, I'm

28:12asking to please let me know. I

28:14wanna speak with him if he if

28:15he's made it. I don't even know

28:16if he made it or not.

28:19But I want you guys to think

28:20about it when you're here

28:22because you bring up groups, you

28:23bring up all kind of people and

28:24all kinds of things and

28:25especially the animals and stuff

28:27.

28:27Which they, they matter as well.

28:30But everybody in Springfield

28:32matters, not just the small.

28:33Thank you.

28:37Robert Williams.

28:39Robert Williams.

28:43Mr. Williams. Anthony.

28:56Good evening, good evening,

28:58everybody. Sorry, Mr. Nito,

28:59could you, um, the cover of the

29:01microphone came off when you

29:02moved it. It's on the, it's on

29:03the podium right there. Oh.

29:06Sorry. Thank you. Who maybe

29:08start his time? OK, go ahead.

29:10Thank you. Yeah, I wanna make

29:10sure they didn't get lost. Can

29:12you hear me? Yes, we can. OK, um

29:16.

29:17So I want to thank each and

29:18every one of you. I appreciate

29:19the work that you all do do here

29:21, and I know it's not easy. It's

29:23a tough job, and I appreciate

29:25you all for doing it.

29:26Thank you for doing it, um, I

29:29have some great information to

29:31present to the council on

29:32housing earnances.

29:34Before I do that, I would like

29:35to address some of the

29:36statements made to me the last

29:37time I appeared that I was

29:39unable to respond to.

29:41Last time I was at the city

29:43council meeting, I was told that

29:46our views, landlords are missing

29:48from the housing issue, and this

29:49was, and that this was not an

29:53anti-landlord or anti-tenant.

29:54And that they were coming

29:55together to fix a Springfield

29:58problem.

29:58Our views are not missing. In

30:00fact, our views are well

30:02documented.

30:03The folks that are pushing the

30:05landlord licensing scheme don't

30:07want to hear our views because

30:08what they are pushing are

30:11anti-landlord and anti-tenant.

30:13And the so-called shrimp of

30:14problems are already addressed

30:15by our current ordinances.

30:18I was told that I was presenting

30:21as facts, but I'm sorry, what I

30:24was presenting as facts were

30:26divisive and that nothing exists

30:29about our registration and our

30:30registration licensing and that

30:31the sessions haven't started.

30:33Well,

30:34The faith Coalition for the

30:35Common Good.

30:39A 501c charity, which Alderman

30:41Williams is a treasurer of.

30:42As a paid executive director

30:44that is spearheading this

30:45political action campaign.

30:47And has published a proposed fee

30:49schedule for the tenant taxes

30:50they want to impose on everybody

30:53.

30:53I was never invited to that

30:55session of decision making or

30:56any other.

30:583 weeks ago, I had a nice

31:00conversation with that paid

31:01executive director, at which

31:02time she asked for my card.

31:04She's a very nice young lady.

31:05Very nice.

31:07Um,

31:09I have not received a call yet

31:10from her. I'm sure she is super

31:12busy.

31:14I did go to one of their public

31:17seminars which Al Williams

31:20attended on grassroots campaigns

31:22.

31:23Until it became a landlord

31:24bashing session.

31:25At that time I removed myself.

31:27Um, it was stated that um the

31:30city knows how to get in contact

31:31with owners.

31:33Even LLCs have listed contacts

31:35to the ones in charge, so I

31:36don't understand why we're still

31:37pushing for registration.

31:41Registration is already in our

31:43ordinances. In fact, registered

31:45properties are listed on the

31:47city's website.

31:49So the information is there. The

31:51only thing that's missing is a

31:54punitive and discriminatory

31:55tenant tax schedule.

31:56So I do have a little bit of

31:58time and I'm going to go through

31:59, I'm gonna go over some of the

32:01ordinances that we do have on

32:02the books that cover the issues

32:04that we want that they want to

32:05have covered by landlord

32:07registration.

32:08We have vacant building

32:10registration.

32:11Um,

32:12I'm not gonna run the numbers,

32:14read the numbers, but uh this is

32:18Springfield's long-standing

32:19vacant building registration

32:21program.

32:22Adopted December 19, 2006. Its

32:25stated purpose is to register

32:26certain vacant buildings require

32:28owners to maintain them and

32:31correct existing code violations

32:34and and prevent deter

32:35deterioration in blood.

32:38The important provisions include

32:39, name the division.

32:41Vacant buildings, establish the

32:43purpose of the registration

32:45program establishes one vacant

32:46building registration is

32:48required. Govern's notice from

32:49the city requiring

32:54Registration periods and fees

32:56requires a disclosure of

32:57ownership and property

32:58information, including the

32:59parcel number, address, date,

33:00and building, when the building

33:01became vacant and the vacant

33:04building plan requires a

33:06detailed vacant building plan

33:08including maintenance,

33:09correction, repair schedules,

33:10and went out of demolition plans

33:12.

33:13Um,

33:14Makes clear that registration

33:15does not prevent the city from

33:17using other enforcement remedies

33:19including rehabilitation or

33:22demolition.

33:22Creates a special rules for

33:24certain vacant properties

33:25actively managed and marketed by

33:26real estate brokers. 2.

33:30Cited property registration.

33:35Major 2025 change. City

33:37council's official description

33:38says the ordinance creates a new

33:39registry for property cited 3 or

33:41more times in a 12-month period.

33:43More importantly, the city

33:45expressly stated that the, the

33:47purpose was to separate these

33:48types of property code

33:49violations from the chronic

33:51nuisance ordinance while

33:52preserving the chronic nuisance

33:54ordinance for properties

33:55involving multiple crimes. I'm

33:57at a time. I've got 22 more

33:59pages to read here maybe I can

34:01come back some other time and

34:03Inform you of the ordinances

34:04that we already have. Thank you,

34:06sir. Um, Alderman Williams.

34:07Thank you, Chair, and thank you

34:09for coming, sir. and again I

34:11wanna.

34:13Extend the standing invitation

34:15to you.

34:16To come and participate. Uh, I,

34:18I imagine Ms. Bankhead hasn't,

34:21uh, contacted you yet because

34:22they have yet to set up the

34:24dates and the times and venues

34:27or places where these series of

34:30uh discussions and planning are

34:31gonna be done, but you need to

34:33bring your information. I'm

34:33quite sure they know about what

34:34she, she said she just wanted to

34:37meet with me and have a

34:38conversation. Yeah, oh, that, OK

34:40, that's a little different. I

34:41thought you were speaking to the

34:44sessions that are gonna be

34:45planned that we're in.

34:47Aiding tenants and landlords to

34:49come. I'm hoping that you're

34:51gonna participate with the city,

34:54with, with the citywide

34:55groupings that they're gonna be

34:56putting together to put this

34:58together, uh, I, I do realize

34:59it's a change and it's different

35:02. The very much aware of

35:04everything that's on the books

35:09but not enforced enforced me

35:13excuse enforced me excuse me

35:20enforced me excuse, uh, no,

35:20please, I just, I absolutely,

35:21we're not gonna have a back and

35:22forth. Alderman Williams has the

35:23floor.

35:23Right now. Oh, I'm very sorry

35:24you. Thank you. Yeah, that's why

35:26I let him.

35:26So I'm just trying to invite you

35:28. I'll cut it short. I'm just

35:29trying to invite you so that you

35:31don't feel left out or cheated

35:33or whatever cause it's gonna

35:35happen regardless, so you might

35:36as well participate, but that's,

35:38that's up to you and your group

35:40or whoever, it's a standing

35:43invitation, uh, information will

35:43get out and I'll make sure that

35:45that you get the schedule of

35:47events that

35:48Lay out these meetings and times

35:50and subject matters as they put

35:51this thing together, it's not

35:53gonna be us against them is

35:55gonna be inclusive and you're

35:56willing to participate and I

35:58hope you will. Thank you.

35:59Thank you very much, Aldwin

36:00Williams. um, thank you, Mr.

36:00Nido, for your time.

36:01Um, would you, I could go ahead

36:03and pass these out to anybody if

36:04they're.

36:05Our clerk's, um, office can come

36:08. These are the ordinances that

36:08are on the books.

36:12Covered land or not point

36:17Thanks a lot. Thank you.

36:28I

36:30Like

36:302 seconds.

36:38I

36:38Almost feels like 2 weeks,

36:39wasn't long enough.

36:41It's kind of good not seeing

36:42some people's faces, I'll be

36:44honest, and I mean that's where

36:45we get into the next election

36:47where we're going to see a lot

36:48of hopefully new faces around

36:50certain seats in the council, uh

36:52, it will be really exciting to

36:55see some actual change instead

36:56of the same split vote that we

36:58frequently see on things that

36:59should be easy toss-ups.

37:02Simple votes things that would

37:03be like, are we helping a

37:04citizen? Are we doing the right

37:05thing with our tax money. Yeah.

37:08But it's always the same 5 and 5

37:09, isn't it?

37:12Then Misty always plays spoiler

37:14with the tiebreaker.

37:15I really do look forward to the

37:17day. If the election goes the

37:18way I want, if I get my

37:19candidates and I get to keep the

37:20people I like on the council.

37:23My wife would be another split

37:24vote and it's going to feel good

37:26.

37:27It's gonna feel good because

37:27we're gonna get things done for

37:28people.

37:30In a way that doesn't require

37:33generalities or vague futures or

37:35things happening when we put it

37:36all together.

37:37People have been waiting for

37:38this council and the one before

37:39it to put it together, and the

37:41one before that put it together

37:42for years.

37:44People continue to suffer.

37:46You may have seen the recent

37:47arrests of 23 young men in our

37:49current east side and South Side

37:51area and a lot of people think

37:52to themselves when they see

37:53those headlines, well, thank God

37:56.

37:57Thank God these people are off

37:57the streets.

38:00You know, how great is that that

38:01we no longer are in danger, as

38:04though these young men

38:05themselves were victims of a

38:06community that failed them.

38:09of an educational system that

38:10likely cast them out as an often

38:12does in this area with young

38:13black men and women.

38:15You think of a 16 year old and a

38:2015-year-old understand the

38:21inclinations.

38:22Of of their actions at that age.

38:23Do you think they know what a

38:25RICO case is, really?

38:29It's embarrassing. That is how

38:31he failed the people in this

38:32community is that we see 23

38:34young men go to prison. They're

38:35going to prison. They're going

38:37to spend their lives there,

38:38except for the ones who get

38:39desperate enough to rat

38:41themselves out when they dangle

38:4240, 50 year census over the head

38:44like they can do with RICA.

38:48But people don't think about

38:49that. They don't think about how

38:51the city fails to collaborate

38:53with 186 on actually helping a

38:54lot of these kids. We leave it

38:56up to groups like the Outlet.

38:57We, we make them come up with

38:59the money and find the money

39:01somewhere and the people that

39:02helped me mentors the young men,

39:04the young women that need it. I

39:05grew up there.

39:08By the grace of my own willpower

39:10and the kindness of many

39:11strangers did I escape that fate

39:14.

39:15Never mistake yourself for

39:16believing that.

39:17That I didn't have to fight to

39:18get out.

39:19Why it took me till I got to my

39:2130s to go to college.

39:23Which I was lucky to make it

39:25there because I almost got 2

39:26felonies in my 20s.

39:28From growing up in that kind of

39:30neighborhood where you were

39:31treated as the kind of person

39:34who's lost and just forgotten

39:36about and don't, I'm not putting

39:38this on the people that are

39:39leading it over here because

39:40they're doing outstanding things

39:42to change that, OK. For a lot of

39:43young people over there, but I,

39:44you know, when it comes to

39:45things here, we see that failure

39:47to take care of the community.

39:50$3900 last week. That's it.

39:52That's all it would have taken

39:53to fix some water.

39:55To get a house back in action

39:56for a young mother and her child

39:58.

39:58And what do we see? We're both 5

40:02to 5 and who cast the tiebreaker

40:04. Yours truly.

40:07No. You know what? I'm not gonna

40:09waste my time on that cause

40:10that'll come for the future

40:12because I wanna retake what

40:14little time I have to talk about

40:15Tierra Lee, yet another failure

40:16of this community.

40:1818 months is what it will be in

40:20October, gangs.

40:21How's she doing?

40:23You guys can't even talk about

40:24it. Why?

40:26Because they silenced you with

40:27the executive session.

40:28It's disgusting.

40:3118 months.

40:34She's still paying for the house

40:35she can't live in, everybody.

40:37Because the city won't even pay

40:38a pittance.

40:42$150,000 is a pittance for this

40:43city. $3900 is a pittance for

40:45this city.

40:47And we don't care because it's

40:48not about the community, it's

40:50about something generality from

40:51an outgoing alderman who talks

40:53about helping everyone fix all

40:55the numerous water lines that

40:56could need that help. It sounds

40:58ridiculous to anyone that's

41:00paying attention, and the fact

41:01that 4 more of you went along

41:03with it, should embarrass you. I

41:05hope your opponents absolutely

41:08smoke you in the selection. You

41:09deserve it. And for the ones

41:10that are leaving, be embarrassed

41:11that this will be some of your

41:13closing actions. I know I would

41:15be.

41:16Absolutely embarrassing.

41:20You know, I have a really hard

41:22time sometimes before I come

41:23here because I don't know how

41:25upset I'm gonna be when I really

41:26think about all the failures of

41:27what we see around here for

41:29young people, for the

41:31infrastructure, for people that

41:33genuinely need help.

41:36I sincerely hope that everybody

41:37votes for that registry and the

41:41opposition to those 5 if they're

41:43still on the ballot.

41:44Thank you.

41:45Laurie McKiern

41:54Yeah, go ahead.

41:57Sorry, I think you should

41:57probably ask, ask the chair that

41:59.

41:59Oh sorry, you better ask the

42:01chair. No, go ahead, Don. You

42:01can go first.

42:05Sorry, it's all right. Thank you

42:07and uh speaking of

42:09infrastructure, in June of 2025,

42:12CWLP applied for a small utility

42:14, clean energy planning grant

42:17program for $200,000 to help

42:19fund the new integrated resource

42:22plan, the grant application was

42:24denied.

42:24The grant program is funded by a

42:27congressionally approved funds

42:28from the US EPA's.

42:32Climate pollution reduction

42:34grants and it's designed.

42:35To facilitate the transition of

42:38municipal and cooperative

42:40utilities to clean our energy

42:42sources.

42:42And to get uh grants to assess

42:45their energy needs, evaluate uh

42:49available renewable energy

42:51options to develop procurement

42:53strategies that align with

42:55Illinois decarbonization goals,

42:56the initiative aims to equip

42:59utilities with the resources

43:02needed to navigate complex,

43:04clean power integration,

43:07ensuring compliance with

43:09complicated state and federal

43:10climate policies while

43:13maintaining

43:13Reliable and affordable

43:15electricity service.

43:17CWLP's grant application was not

43:19even deemed eligible for scoring

43:21by the finance authority and

43:23Climate Bank because it failed

43:24to meet 2 out of 3 objectives.

43:27The application failed to commit

43:29to an electric generation plant

43:32or a roadmap aligned with the

43:34climate and equitable Jobs Act,

43:36CEA.

43:38The statutory goal of 100%

43:40carbon free electricity by 2045.

43:43They didn't even include that.

43:45And the application failed to

43:47build an internal readiness to

43:51move from planning to

43:53implementation, emphasizing uh

43:56flexibility and scenario

43:58modeling over a clear path.

44:00The siege of compliance.

44:03CWLP's application for the grant

44:05referred to sieges legally

44:09required emission reductions as

44:13sustainability targets instead

44:15of legally binding requirements

44:17failed to commit to any plans

44:19achieving either the interim 45%

44:22reduction mandated by 2038 or

44:25the zero emissions required by

44:282045.

44:29After CWLP submitted that

44:32subsequently rejected

44:34application.

44:34The clean and reliable grid act,

44:37Sergio was signed into law.

44:40Surgeia mandated integrated

44:42resource plans for utilities to

44:45help direct planning for

44:48compliance with those deadlines.

44:50The intent is to prevent

44:53utilities like CWLP from failing

44:56to act until the very last

44:57minute and then claiming, oh,

44:59sorry, uh, we need more time to

45:01comply. That's the whole purpose

45:03of that counsel oversight.

45:06is absolutely critical here to

45:10assure statutory and regulatory

45:12compliance and to avoid new

45:15problems.

45:16Like the notice of violations by

45:18the US EPA back in July of 2023

45:22when you were surprised with.

45:2610 pages of violations from the

45:28US EPA.

45:30The council has to direct CWLP

45:33to commit to the transition plan

45:37to clean energy within the

45:39mandated time frames of Illinois

45:41law to meet seizure requirements

45:43. Failure to meet the interim

45:47requirement by 2038.

45:5145% reduction subjects the city

45:54to having Dolman 4 shut down

45:56early. That's the penalty for

45:59noncompliance. Clearly you

46:01should not want that on your

46:03heads. Denial of the grant is

46:06unfortunate.

46:07But it's remediable, thank

46:10goodness. CWLP can resubmit an

46:14amended application. They're

46:15starting round 4.

46:18Of these grant applications for

46:20$200,000.

46:20If they commit to the legal

46:23requirements of Illinois law for

46:26zero emissions by 2045 and

46:29moving from planning to

46:32implementation in their

46:33integrated resource plan.

46:34Then they can get this grant,

46:39$200,000 will help fund the

46:41legally required IRP to help the

46:43city council, CWLP ratepayers

46:45and the public, to develop

46:47strategies that are cost

46:49effective in compliance with law

46:52and meet electric reliability

46:55and resource adequacy

46:56requirements. I just want to let

46:58you know that the coalition

47:00group that I belong to, the

47:02Coalition for Springfield's

47:03Utility future.

47:05to help accomplish that, not

47:07hinder it.

47:08We want them to do that.

47:10Thank you, Laurie.

47:19Good evening.

47:21Don just gave the Coalition for

47:23Springfield's Utility Futures

47:25statement about this small

47:26utility grant. I'm going to add

47:27my own personal statement here.

47:28So I'm here to ask you to

47:30seriously consider your

47:31responsibility for regulation

47:33and oversight of CWLP. I've said

47:35this before, but it needs to be

47:36said again because of this

47:37poorly written grant application

47:39.

47:39Remember when you had to vote

47:41for the 74% water hike? Who do

47:42you blame? You blamed the

47:45previous administrations and

47:46previous city council members

47:47for not following through on

47:48what was required.

47:50This city council is responsible

47:51for what happens at CWLP now.

47:54The state of Illinois does not

47:55regulate municipal utilities

47:56like it does come at an Amrin

47:58and other than the CIDA

48:01requirement for CWLP to be zero

48:02emissions by 2045. There are no

48:05other state regulations ensuring

48:07that CWLP complies with state

48:10regulations. You're accountable

48:12for ensuring that CWLP complies

48:14with this 2045 date and that

48:16interim 2038 date.

48:18If CWLP misses the date, the

48:19Attorney General's office goes

48:20for enforcement. Do you think

48:22they're going to go after CWLP

48:24staff? No, they're going to go

48:26after the existing city council

48:28to force compliance. Of course,

48:28none of you will be in office in

48:312045, but it's your

48:32responsibility to do the right

48:33thing now, right now, and ensure

48:36that CWLP starts working towards

48:39compliance.

48:40Noncompliance and continuing to

48:41burn fossil fuels is a financial

48:44liability and a regulatory

48:46liability. CWLP has a history of

48:49complying only when forced to

48:50with legal enforcement. You all

48:52will be blamed for any financial

48:54price for non-compliance of CETA

48:56dates.

48:57The upcoming integrated resource

48:58planning process is the first

49:00step towards meeting that date,

49:01the 2045 date. The small utility

49:03grant would give an additional

49:06$200,000 as Don stated. CWLP

49:08needs to start planning now with

49:10this IRP to transition our

49:12electric fuel source from fossil

49:13fuels to clean energy.

49:152045 is less than 20 years away.

49:18I had heard Doug Brown say in

49:19the past that CWLP would start a

49:22transition to clean energy after

49:23Dolman Ford's debt was paid off,

49:26but that is irresponsible and

49:27puts Springfield at risk of

49:29non-compliance.

49:30I'll repeat myself on this

49:31statement too. We're the state

49:32capital. We should be leading

49:33the way on this, not being the

49:36ones forced to comply because we

49:38won't commit to state

49:39regulations. It's your

49:40responsibility to make sure that

49:42process starts now.

49:43We have knowledgeable, informed

49:44people in the city who can help.

49:46Let us help write that grant so

49:48the city gets the $200,000 it

49:51deserves. Do what's right and

49:52direct CWLP to manage this IRP

49:55process with the primary purpose

49:57of meeting the 2045 0 emissions

49:59date.

50:00Thank you. Alderman Williams,

50:02Lord, please, um.

50:05You know, I'm, I'm a little

50:08frustrated because.

50:09Um, of course Doug Brown, uh,

50:12always has resisted this RRP. I

50:14can remember oh well they're

50:15working on something that the

50:17state legislator, we, we, we

50:18gotta let them finish before I

50:20don't wanna waste the staff's

50:21time. I don't want, you know,

50:23and and and they just

50:2511 excuse after the other, but I

50:28wanna ask in this reduction.

50:30P.

50:31You know, the 38 is kind of new

50:32to me. I'm just hearing that one

50:34.

50:35But I've always known about the

50:3724 to be that that's the goal. I

50:39mean the 2045, that was the goal

50:41we're gonna be there. It's gonna

50:43be 0 Do you have any idea?

50:47Have we made any type of

50:49reduction.

50:50Uh, that you, you, your group

50:51would know of or know about.

50:54There were a few things from the

50:56previous IRP that they did, the

50:58small solar, um, I don't have

51:00any figures on the reduction on

51:03those figures uh I agree with

51:05you, uh, I've always felt the

51:06council didn't didn't take it

51:08serious though. We had a lot of

51:10time and many think we're not

51:12gonna be here, so why, you know,

51:14but um I'm one of the people

51:16that watched the weather and see

51:19the experiences in Springfield

51:20of all places ought to see some

51:22of these extraordinary types of

51:24storms.

51:25Things that have happened so

51:26people say oh you're one of

51:27those kooks. Maybe I am.

51:29But I'm a cool from a city that

51:30has a power plant.

51:32And we need to do the right

51:33thing and when I got on this

51:35council I said we need to start

51:38this planet and Director Brown

51:40and under my buddy Lance Lance

51:41build up, it didn't really.

51:43Do as much as I wanted. And now

51:46we're getting in this

51:47administration and we're this

51:48deep in and we still

51:50Then we get caught with oh well

51:53we're having a meeting. We're,

51:54we're, we're,, you know, but

51:55it's at the same time of these

51:57meetings, the committee meetings

51:58, so I'm asking, where was the

52:00agenda where was the, so we have

52:02to stop playing games and I'm

52:04convinced that's not gonna

52:06happen until like Ken says we

52:08really see new faces up here

52:09that are ready to do what we're

52:12supposed to. I understand that a

52:14lot of my colleagues think, oh,

52:17the state is no because we are

52:19our own.

52:20Home rule. So the state for

52:22everybody else, but for us, we,

52:24we, we better be thinking about

52:26these goals a lot more serious

52:27than doing it, but to get the

52:30resistance of moving these

52:33IRPs alone it's just amazing

52:35when we see the how effective

52:37that first one was.

52:39That's where all these closures

52:40came from and got us gone, but,

52:43is, is in the mix because we

52:45don't want to keep moving

52:46forward and doing the right

52:47thing.

52:48When it's gonna happen whether.

52:49We want it or not, we will be

52:52successful at stalling it and

52:54slowing it down and and playing

52:55games, but if we meet these

52:57deadlines.

52:58You're right. Whoever's here at

52:59that time.

53:01They're they're they're gonna

53:01have to do it. I wanna thank

53:02your group.

53:05Where your expertise and for be

53:07willing to share but not just

53:10this council but this

53:12administration and anybody that

53:13wants to help move toward these

53:15goals, uh, but I agree we spend

53:16an awful lot of money.

53:18On the power plant and with the

53:20power plant and a lot of times

53:22stuff is over our head we're

53:24passing votes of millions of

53:26dollars.

53:27That could, you know, just

53:29because of the unconsent, on

53:31consent on consent. But some of

53:32the things.

53:33If we was using our plan and we

53:35kinda knew then we wouldn't be

53:38as

53:38Uninformed I'll say we will be

53:40more informed because we voted

53:41on, put together a plan that's

53:43taken us places. That's what I

53:45saw happen.

53:46And how we got the first.

53:47Closure.

53:49By having a plan.

53:50So I,, I'm in support of the

53:53plan. There's others up here in

53:54support. We're just not the

53:56majority yet.

53:58So thank you. We appreciate your

54:00concern. Thank you. Um, I do

54:02want to point out that the IRP

54:03has been scheduled. We have, um,

54:06the CFP we just actually just

54:07got the

54:09press release from the 25th of

54:10September. So, um, the utility

54:12is moving forward on, on the IRP

54:16and, um, strongly encourage

54:17everyone, um, not just on

54:19council, but in the community to

54:20participate in that process, um,

54:21to ensure that we have that

54:24healthy public input and

54:25feedback on the process.

54:26Thank you. Um, do we have any

54:27more speakers? Uh, no more

54:30speakers motion is second to

54:31adjourn. All those in favor

54:32opposed. The ayes have it