2026-11-02 - Committee on Council

05:13Good morning everyone. I'm

05:15council member Byron A as chair

05:15of the Committee on counsel.

05:16I'd like to officially call the

05:18meeting to order on Monday,

05:20November 2nd, I have my

05:22colleagues join with me. To my

05:24far far left councilwoman Boone

05:28councilman uh Winston and

05:29Council Mendozer, we make up a

05:31quorum, um. Make the most to

05:34adopt the agenda. Most of that

05:37has been made in the 2nd in

05:37discussion. Saying now please

05:38open the vote. Vote is open.

05:42Vote is closed. 4 ye, 0 nays.

05:44The agenda has been adopted.

05:45Thank you. Motion to adopt the

05:47full council agenda. Thank you.

05:49Uh, these are the minutes. OK,

05:51well, make a motion to adopt

05:53the minutes. I Motion that has

05:56been made in the 2nd discussion

05:58saying nah, please open the

05:58vote. Vote is open. Boers

06:02closed 4 ye 0 nays. The minutes

06:03have been approved. Thank you.

06:04Remake the motion to adopt the

06:05full council agenda. Is there a

06:07second? Mocha remain the 2nd.

06:09In the discussion, saying

06:10please open the vote. Vote is

06:12open. Vote to close for ya, 0,

06:16nays. The full council agenda

06:17has been adopted. Thank you.

06:18That brings us to our public

06:19comment session. You have 3

06:20minutes time be posted on the

06:23screens. Please keep all

06:24comments directed to the

06:25committee and cordial. First we

06:27have Mr. Kendall Long. Yes So.

06:41Very cool. Uh, good morning,

06:47council members. My name is

06:48Kendall Long. I'm First

06:49Amendment policy counsel at the

06:50Southern Center for Human

06:52Rights. Um our office and our

06:52partners in the People's Voice

06:54Coalition have been before you

06:56many times this year, raising

06:57our concerns and solutions

06:59aimed at increasing the

06:59accessibility of public comment

07:01before the Atlanta City Council

07:03And I'm here to, to encourage

07:05you all to pass the public

07:06comment legislation on the

07:07agenda as it exists before you

07:08today. This legislation

07:10reflects solutions from our

07:12observations of public comment

07:13throughout this term from our

07:14engagement of community members

07:16organizations, and many of the

07:17council members as well. The

07:19public comment legislation

07:20before you expands access of

07:21the public comment process by

07:23increasing the predictability

07:24of the timing of public comment

07:26ensuring people are heard in

07:27the order that they sign up,

07:28and reducing the burdens on

07:30speakers who wish to donate

07:31their time. The document that I

07:33passed up explains. this in

07:33more detail. Um, while the

07:37People's Voice Act was joined

07:38with other public comment

07:39legislation with similar goals

07:40under no circumstances do we

07:42believe that residents should

07:42be afforded less opportunity to

07:44speak or be subjected to

07:46procedures that create

07:48additional obstacles, delays,

07:49and barriers to being hurt. We

07:51unfortunately will not be able

07:52to support any amendments that

07:53will restrict rather than

07:55expand the access to public

07:55comment, and we've come before

07:57you on behalf of and with our

07:59community, uh with the sole

08:00goal of cementing and expanding

08:02free speech rights for

08:04Atlantans. We're not naive to

08:04think that policymaking and

08:06co-governance does not come

08:08with compromise. However, the

08:09language of trade-offs is not

08:11applicable here when affecting

08:13fundamental and constitutional

08:14rights. We don't believe that

08:15bargaining rights away without

08:16the consent of our community,

08:18uh, and we can't support

08:20legislation that does so. So

08:21although we've been grateful

08:22and eager to work uh with

08:24members of council on the

08:24introduction of the People's

08:26Voice Act and the subsequent

08:27legislation that it reflects.

08:29If amendments that are

08:31introduced that deviate from

08:31the overall goals of the

08:33People's Voice Campaign, free

08:34speech and increased access, we

08:36in our community will not be

08:37able to support that. We're

08:38living through an era where

08:40communities across the country

08:41are being increasingly removed

08:43from important decision making

08:45processes. On the eve of such a

08:47consequential election.

08:49Election day, Atlanta City

08:49Council has the opportunity to

08:51amplify rather than curtail the

08:53voices of community members and

08:54the organizations representing

08:56them. So we urge each council

08:57member to vote, uh, in support

08:58of legislation as it is and not

09:01to support amendments that

09:02would further enroach free

09:03speech rights here in Atlanta,

09:05and our office remains open for

09:05any conversations on this

09:07matter, so thank you all. Ms.

09:10Franklin, Dan Franklin's next,

09:12please. Thank you, Chair Amos.

09:18Good afternoon, counsel. Good

09:20morning, council members. Um,

09:23during the last committee on

09:23council meeting, I stood at

09:25this podium and offered sincere

09:27gratitude for the introduction

09:30of 26-0-1589, um, that codified

09:32and overhauled in the

09:34administration of public

09:34comment as city council

09:36meetings, including removing

09:37the barriers that

09:38disincentivize seated time

09:39speakers, such as placing

09:41speakers, such speakers at the

09:41end of public comment order of

09:44call and requiring people

09:45seeing them time to wait until

09:47the speaker was called in order

09:48They have their time allotted.

09:50I offered thanks and gratitude

09:52because I know the labor that

09:53went into getting to the point

09:54where we had a piece of

09:55legislation that was actionable

09:58That balanced the differing, if

09:59not somewhat competing

10:01interests in the operation of

10:02city council meetings and

10:04accomplished what the ultimate

10:05goal of ensuring that the

10:07public comment in the city of

10:08Atlanta was accessible,

10:10equitable, and considerate of

10:12people's time and the need for

10:13community to offer nuanced

10:14comment on whatever issue was

10:15feeding their motive to speak

10:17on any given day. I offered

10:20thanks for many partners who

10:21outside of Southern Center, um,

10:23worked to commit time to

10:25crafting the ask of that

10:26legislation and so the elected

10:28stakeholders such as Councilman

10:30Amos, President Overstreet. Uh,

10:32the paper sponsors, uh, Kelsey

10:34Bond and Lilian Battiari, as

10:36well as Councilman Dozier, who

10:40Actually made time to return

10:41phone calls or emails or

10:43schedule meetings. But today,

10:44while I'm still grateful for

10:46all of those aforementioned

10:47things. I was speaking to offer

10:50some frustration. Because as I

10:53understand the revised version

10:53of the legislation is once

10:55again likely to be held after

10:57its reintroduction today

10:59because of the concerns of

11:00Ghosts. Ghosts being unnamed

11:02parties that want to amend

11:04Cornerstone protections of this

11:05legislative effort. Excuse me.

11:15My colleague Kendall Long

11:17already addressed specific

11:18concerns about the legislation,

11:20but allow me to close with this

11:20absolute piece of clarity. It

11:22is of utmost importance. Uh, it

11:24is of the utmost importance,

11:26want and desire of ours to

11:27continue to hold conversations

11:29and collaborate and work

11:31through any and all policy

11:33considerations with anyone that

11:34is open to scheduling and

11:36having conversations with us.

11:38However, I will also make it

11:40abundantly clear, if the

11:41ultimate result of these

11:43conversations is to

11:43discriminate against and

11:45disincentivize seated time

11:47speakers by placing them at the

11:47end of public comment and or

11:49limiting their total allotted

11:50time, that the Southern Center

11:51for Human Rights will withdraw

11:54our support for the legislation

11:55But again, I want to be clear,

11:56our desire is to have those

11:58conversations and continue the

11:59hard and difficult work that

12:00we've engaged in thus far to

12:02make sure that we are always

12:05acting on behalf of and in

12:05favor of the people of Atlanta

12:07and Nuanced intelligent

12:09discussion and conversation.

12:10Thank you. Thank you. That

12:14brings us to the end of our

12:15public comments, um, that takes

12:16us to our regular scheduled

12:18agenda. Mr. Overton. Thank you,

12:20Mr. Chair. Before we get to our

12:21ordinance for second reading,

12:22can we bring item number 5 off

12:25of held for consideration, the

12:25appointee is in attendance. Yes

12:27proceed. This is item number

12:32526C 5090, a communication from

12:34council President Marcy Collier

12:34Overstreet, appointing Doctor

12:36Annette Hall to serve as a

12:37member of the Human Relations

12:38Commission. This appointment is

12:39for a term of 3 years. Is Miss

12:43Hall here? Yes, please approach

12:44the Mike, give us your name and

12:45tell us why you would like to

12:48venture out into this committee

12:52Good morning, City Council.

12:53Thank you for having me here.

12:54I'm so excited just to speak

12:55with you and tell you why I

12:57want to be a part of the human

12:59relations commission. I just

13:01finished my doctorate in

13:03healthcare administration, and

13:04I've been working nationwide,

13:06making sure that people have

13:06health equity and access to

13:08healthcare. While this is not

13:11directly involved with the

13:12human relations commission with

13:13healthcare. I think it has

13:16greater implications and I want

13:17to help people who are facing

13:19discrimination, make sure that

13:21their voices are heard and be a

13:22part of my civic duty and serve

13:24the city. Thank you so much for

13:26your time and having me here

13:27today. Thank you very much,

13:30Councilman Mbartiari. Well,

13:31first of all, motion to approve

13:33um, the second, I've had the

13:34pleasure of knowing Doctor Hall

13:35God. I mean, We worked at King

13:39of Pops together, if that tells

13:40you anything. So it's been a

13:42long time, so, uh, and that

13:45like it's been, it's amazing to

13:46see you here now after all

13:48these years, and I'm really

13:49excited that you'll be a part

13:51of this, so as I said, I

13:53already motioned to approve. I

13:53think, I think, um, I think, a

13:56colleague, Colin seconded, but

13:58thank you and really excited to

14:00have you a part of this. Thank

14:01you. I'm so excited to be back

14:02in the city. Thank you. Motion

14:04sense to be made in a second.

14:05Any more discussion. CNN,

14:06please open the vote. Vote is

14:07open. Vote is closed. 70 nays.

14:13The item is favorable. Thank

14:15you. Congratulations, staff

14:16will be in touch with you about

14:17next steps. Mr. Overton. Yes,

14:19sir. This brings us back to

14:21item number 1, ordinances for

14:23second reading. 2601589 an

14:26ordinance by Committee on

14:27counsel to amend the City of

14:28Atlanta Code of Ordinances Part

14:292 Ordinances, chapter 2,

14:31Administration, Article 2

14:32counsel, division 2 meetings,

14:35subdivision 2 Rules of

14:36Procedure, Section 241

14:38proclamations and titations,

14:40Section 2-104, remarks from the

14:42public, so as to modify

14:43procedures governing public

14:44comment, public comment sign up

14:47and proclamations during

14:47regular meetings of Atlanta

14:48City Council and for other

14:49purposes. Muser hope. Motion

14:52that's been made in the second

14:54and more discussion. Yeah. OK,

14:58Councilwoman Collins. Yes, um,

14:58I know I've been, um, so I was

15:01looking at the, the joining of

15:03both papers and um vice as vice

15:06chair of the committee,

15:08completely open to, you know,

15:10working with my colleagues and

15:12of course with Chair Amos to

15:13get a piece of legislation that

15:15really fine balance between,

15:17you know, balance from what we

15:17are trying to achieve, um, I

15:19know one of the comments

15:21referred to. in who, you know,

15:25Ghost or whoever, um, and so I

15:28encourage you all to continue

15:29to lean on those individuals

15:32that are say whatever the

15:34information is, what I've been

15:35very clear on, and I'll just

15:36tell you in terms of my

15:39colleagues and consideration of

15:41this legislation is, um, The

15:46Maintaining the order of our

15:48meetings to truly give respect

15:52to those that we're honoring,

15:55um, but I mean, absolutely,

15:57because for many of them,

15:59coming down to City Hall and

16:01council chambers to be honored

16:03is an absolute privilege for us

16:06to do that, but also the same

16:10um but I do want us to think

16:12about the extension of time

16:15through. You know, through

16:17proclamations to the time of

16:19public comment and what the

16:21yielded process, um, the, the,

16:23the individuals that signed up

16:25to yield time, having having

16:29those people the roll called

16:31out at the time, at the

16:32beginning of public comment

16:33than how we've leaned on to at

16:36the end just for that cause I

16:38do know they are individuals

16:40that take time out their

16:42schedule to come down and want

16:42to sit through, so definitely

16:44wanting to be. Um, open to that

16:49The comment, the the yielded

16:50time piece and how much that is

16:51I am absolutely indifferent to

16:54it. Some people feel the same

16:57one way, others feel the next.

16:59I am absolutely indifferent to

17:00it, so at the end of the day if

17:04um what I, if, if OK with this

17:05committee working with with

17:07Chair Amos and my colleagues is

17:09to, you know, present

17:12substitute language to reorder

17:13this for your for you all's

17:16consideration and for us to

17:18continue to work, continue to

17:18work on this. One thing I also

17:20wanted to, if it's OK for me,

17:22Mr. Chair, to also have my uh

17:25and my colleagues. To consider

17:29um enforcing this once we get

17:29to a final version, if we're

17:31able to get to a final by the

17:33end of this calendar year,

17:34making it effective, the

17:36beginning of January that also

17:38gives us time to communicate

17:40what that order is to the

17:42community. And so, um, I do

17:43want to just employ you all to

17:45think about that as well, just

17:47to make sure that we're being

17:49fully transparent. Everyone

17:50knows changes that are

17:51potentially happening and in

17:52the city can plan accordingly

17:54to that. So with that Mr. Chair

17:56I just um um I yield, but

17:59please know that I helped work

18:01clean this up for, for everyone

18:02and I appreciate that because

18:03um that, that only shows why we

18:07need to hold it so we can do

18:07some more work together. Um, to

18:10the substitute that a speaker

18:12spoke about is, is, is one

18:14thing in the paper I just

18:14completely missed, you know,

18:16there's rarely an opportunity

18:18that um everyone wins, but

18:21there's always an opportunity

18:23that everybody can lose and

18:24this is this one of these

18:24opportunities. If we just sit

18:26down and get together,

18:28everybody can definitely win.

18:30It is always a conversation

18:32about compromise always that's

18:33how the world works that's how

18:34the political world worked.

18:36This paper represents wins and

18:39losses on both sides. One of

18:41the things that I totally

18:41missed was when we talk about

18:43the seeding of time. Um, we are

18:46going to in this paper it

18:48creates that registry for

18:48people to be able to have their

18:50name called and leave. They

18:52don't have to stay until um

18:55public comments start. But

18:56those that are seated time

18:59definitely in my opinion has to

18:59move back to the back of the

19:02line seating time is a

19:03privilege. It is not a right.

19:05Your right is to speak it is

19:08not to speak when so that is

19:11what I'm standing on and

19:12hopefully um I can talk to my

19:13co-authors of this paper and,

19:15and get that done. And once

19:17again it. It puts us in a

19:19better position of listening to

19:20the people and maintaining the

19:22regular decorum of our meetings

19:24as well. So, um, I would

19:26definitely prepare that working

19:27with our colleague um um

19:29councilman Collins or anyone

19:31else who wants to chime in. I

19:32do think we need to go ahead

19:33and get this done or not to get

19:35it done. So, um, with that

19:37council member Bun. I'm taking

19:40down notes too. Thank you, Mr.

19:42Chair and thank those who avail

19:45themselves of the opportunity

19:46for public comment came down to

19:47at this meeting, but I have a

19:50couple of questions. One, Uh I

19:53know I was out due to, uh,

19:58medical leave early in the year

19:59but normally this is the type

20:00of thing that's discussed at a

20:02retreat. Of the counsel. Was

20:05there, have we, do we have a

20:08retreat scheduled and has there

20:09been one? Because I'm not aware

20:11of that there was one. It's

20:13been one, but it hasn't been

20:14one around this subject, and

20:16there's not one plan. OK, well,

20:18well, normally this type of

20:19thing would be discussed, uh,

20:22After a retreat. Uh, but we

20:25have legislation before us, so

20:26it, it, it's before us. I do

20:27want to put on the record

20:29though that I have the

20:32distinction of never voting to

20:34restrict public comment in any

20:36way, shape or form. Over my

20:38tenure. I'm very proud of that,

20:41uh, because when I began here

20:43in 1994 when we were sworn in.

20:46Uh, the very first meeting

20:47there were over 300 speakers.

20:49Uh, Because of the Utoy Creek

20:53sewer tunnel issue, and there

20:54was no time limit. There was no

20:57seeding of taxes. So people

20:59could come to the microphone

21:01and, and give their all, give

21:05their total opinion. And That's

21:08just how it was over succeeding

21:11years Those those who Profess

21:14to have a a allegiances even

21:16with this organization. Put in

21:19legislation to restrict. Public

21:21comment and chip away and even

21:23take away. The ability for

21:27people to see time to restrict

21:30how it's done and all those

21:32other kinds of things. I

21:33appreciate the Expanded

21:36checklist, uh, that was

21:37provided. Uh, I'm probably

21:39split. Uh I see 4 things on

21:43here that are Kind of like

21:48Issues for myself. The other 4,

21:51I mean they're indifferent to

21:53or could support. But I just

21:55want to remind people. Uh, that

21:59I'm available, um, I don't

22:01believe that I've been reached

22:02out to if I have, I, I didn't

22:04get a phone call. I don't, I

22:05don't have a message, but as a

22:08former activist who grew up in

22:10a household full of activists

22:12around activists whose efforts

22:13changed the world. You can't

22:15just talk to people that you

22:17like. Right, you got a lobby

22:19everybody. You gotta bring

22:22everybody to the table if

22:22you're seeking to make change.

22:26So I would encourage you not,

22:27not just to talk or You know,

22:31concern yourself with people

22:33that you think might be likely

22:36supporters, but to reach out

22:38and uh Reach out to everyone,

22:42particularly like on the issue

22:44of proclamations. You know, the

22:46problem of proclamation as I

22:47see it is that Members, uh,

22:49half the council is not there

22:51when the proclamations are

22:52given. It's an insult really.

22:56And send cultural, different

23:00cultural uh aspects of the city

23:02It's an insult to the person

23:03who's being honored. And it

23:06generally looks bad, uh, when

23:07we're giving out the The

23:10highest award the city can give

23:11and half the chamber is empty,

23:14uh, from its seated members.

23:16You know, that kind of

23:18grumbling began because there

23:20there was a council member who

23:22remained nameless. Who didn't

23:25like sitting where they sat

23:27because that's where the

23:27proclamations were given out.

23:30And then over time, as other

23:33people fell out of favor. Well,

23:35I'm sorry, as, as Newcastle

23:38presidents came along who

23:41didn't necessarily embrace the

23:43practice they sought to

23:45undermine it. They leaked and

23:47had stories done in the paper

23:49trying to go after the people

23:50who were giving out

23:52proclamations trying to point

23:54to a particular person and say

23:56that's all that they were doing

23:57but when they the analysis came

23:58out, come to find out that

24:00particular person was not the

24:03person who gave out most of the

24:04proclamations. It was somebody

24:05else. So all of this on balance

24:09I, we need to do things that

24:12are best for the institution.

24:14It's great to get suggestions

24:15from the public. But we need to

24:18protect our institution and our

24:20institution as opposed to the

24:22administration and our court.

24:25We're not We're the most public

24:30Facing probably the most, we're

24:30definitely the ones the public

24:32hold the most accountable. But

24:35we're also the ones that

24:37Probably carry the burden of

24:39preserving, recognizing,

24:41acknowledging and addressing

24:44Atlanta's culture. More than

24:46any other branch of the

24:47government. And that includes

24:50You know, dealing with and not

24:53not only listening to people

24:55who have grievances, but

24:57honoring and acknowledging

24:59people, places and institutions

25:02that have done well on the on

25:04behalf of everyone. Right. And

25:06as I see this as written. I'm

25:08glad we're going to have more

25:10conversation about it. Um, We

25:14would be the only government in

25:15the world. That would seek to

25:19either move or diminish.

25:23Honoring those who've done well

25:24on behalf of everybody else in

25:26our city. To push that back

25:29when we should be encouraging

25:31it. We should be encouraging

25:35people to do more on behalf of

25:36their fellow citizens and not

25:39just hosting a session for

25:41gripes or complaints. You know,

25:42the council meeting is uh Based

25:46if you go back far enough, it's

25:47based on the hearth. Of small

25:53hunter-gatherer communities

25:53where at the end of the hunt,

25:54the end of the hunting and

25:56gathering, the community would

25:58gather around the fire and tell

26:00those stories of, of what

26:02others have done that are great

26:04Hold their fellow warriors and

26:07farmers accountable for the

26:07work that they've done in the

26:09fields, and then generally it

26:11it conducts itself as a

26:14communal place, not just a

26:16place of hardcore, you know, I

26:18guess, uh, screw. Frugian

26:20business. That is a cultural

26:23meeting. And we should abandon

26:26that culture. I mean, we do it

26:27every council meeting anyway

26:29with the, the members

26:31themselves don't come when

26:33we're honoring people in the

26:34community. Now, I won't go

26:36there along with racial lines,

26:38but uh African Americans have

26:41the best record of attendance.

26:42I'll just put it like that. And

26:45when I started here in 1994

26:47when the council was more

26:49diverse. Culturally, sexually.

26:54Ginger and gender way, you know

26:57class distinction. Everybody

27:00was there and uh President

27:03Harrington, if you didn't come

27:05to proclamations. You know, It

27:09was just as important as being

27:12in your seat when the public

27:14spoke at that time, as I

27:15reminded everyone with no time

27:16limit. And so we could be in

27:19public comments sometimes for 4

27:21and 5 hours. And everyone was

27:23there and everyone was seated.

27:25Every part of the meeting is

27:27just as important as ever,

27:30every other part Because It's,

27:34it's more than just a business

27:36meeting, it's a cultural

27:37meeting. Me of leadership

27:41representative of the city's

27:42culture. So I hope that in

27:45these discussions and I'm

27:46available. Uh, you have, you

27:48know, I've never voted to

27:50restrict public comment. I'm

27:51the only person who can say

27:52that on the council, by the way

27:54uh, in any way, shape or form,

27:55I believe in public comment. I

27:57believe people have a right and

27:59I want to remind the public at

28:01home that was A seven-day

28:04period. Only the government of

28:06the city of Atlanta provides 7

28:11opportunities within 7 days for

28:13the public to come down and

28:14speak to us. We are the only

28:17government that does that. And

28:19we should not forget that. Not

28:22Fulton County. Not any of the

28:24other uh 1314 cities in Fulton

28:27County or DeKalb in North

28:29Georgia, South Georgia. It's

28:31the city of Atlanta that does

28:33that already. And if you

28:35include the zonal review board,

28:37that's 8. So there's plenty of

28:41opportunity for the public to

28:42come and to Express themselves

28:46before our body. Should it be

28:48tweaked and looked at and

28:49reviewed? Of course it should.

28:51Yeah. But I'm available, uh, if

28:55there are meetings, uh, I, I

28:57suggest that, uh, Perhaps

29:00everyone uh Come to the table

29:02again. And uh review a lot of

29:06our procedures. Maybe it's had

29:07annualized, I don't know. Uh,

29:11but it definitely should be

29:12done, but no one should leave

29:14this discussion thinking that

29:16somehow, even though everything

29:18is not perfect and legislative

29:20bodies. Particularly ones like

29:22ours that are based on His

29:23Majesty's Parliament. are

29:27engines of compromise and

29:29discussion. And not everybody

29:32likes compromise. But

29:34Legislative bodies are here to

29:36carry the burden of

29:39representing all aspects of the

29:40people that they represent. And

29:43so with that, since it's going

29:45to be held. You know, I've,

29:48I'll reserve my other comments,

29:49but I don't want people leaving

29:50the discussion to think that

29:52they're That somehow the city

29:54of Atlanta is not. I guess

29:58Might be inconvenient for some.

29:59But that we're not providing

30:01the opportunities for public

30:03input. Uh, as opposed to vis a

30:06vis uh someone else, and it's

30:08funny somebody mentioned ghost.

30:10And by late nights at Morehouse

30:12when I was running chicken to

30:13the girls at Spelman at Clark

30:15after the gates were closed,

30:17that was my co-sign to go to Mr

30:19Winters to take orders via

30:21DoorDash before DoorDash

30:23existed. That was my nickname,

30:26Ghost. I would draw a. Thank

30:32you, counsel. Remember Bond, um

30:37so with being one of the

30:37co-authors of this paper and

30:39and and, and the chair of the

30:40committee, I truly believe it

30:42is my duty and responsibility

30:44to bring the best paper to this

30:45committee, but not only to this

30:46committee to this full council

30:48as well, so before Wednesday,

30:52um, my office will reach out to

30:53all of you to see what are,

30:54what are your changes, what,

30:55what, when can we get together

30:57to have a conversation and when

30:59we can um. Get more public

31:02comment um from the public as

31:04well, so, um, I would take that

31:06on my office would take that on

31:07but that's motion has been made

31:09and second and more discussion.

31:11Sanna please open. Well, do we

31:13have to vote to hold it since

31:15it's already held? That's right

31:17Uh, please open the vote. Vote

31:18is open. Voters closed 70 nays.

31:24The item is held in committee.

31:26Uh, this brings us to our dual

31:27referred item for which we will

31:28take no action as the item

31:31remains held in finance exec

31:31Committee, and we have no

31:33papers coming off of hell.

31:34They're slated to come off of

31:35hell. That can thus that

31:36concludes our legislative

31:37agenda for today. You more

31:40comments, announcements. Vote

31:44tomorrow, in case you didn't

31:44hear, vote tomorrow. We stand

31:47adjourned. Thank you. I see the

31:51sponsors

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