2026-10-22 - City Council Workshop Meeting

Summary

Based on the official minutes and on manual (live) captions, in capital letters, which begin about ten minutes into the meeting; names and figures may be misheard.

Lynn Hurtak presided with Charlie Miranda, Guido Maniscalco and Bill Carlson present; Naya Young, Luis Viera and Alan Clendenin were absent, so no formal direction was given on any item. Convened 9:06 AM, adjourned 11:24 AM.
The two ethics code items (CM25-18644 and CM25-18645) were continued unanimously to the January 28, 2027 workshop at Carlson's request. See Ethics Code Review.
On the Bike Pedestrian Advisory Committee and multimodal safety, Transportation Services Director Adam Purcell said about 300 people a year are killed or seriously injured on Tampa roadways. He described the safe-systems approach, high-injury networks, engineering fixes such as roundabouts and removing continuous right-turn lanes, protected bike facilities such as the Cass Street cycle track, and federal Safe Streets and Roads for All grants (about $20 million from 2022 and about $2.6 million for quick-build corridors). Staff proposed a pedestrian safety action plan process of 18 to 24 months, with a firm selected in early 2027, and involving a bicycle-pedestrian advisory committee as a stakeholder, then deciding whether to make it permanent. Mobility Director Brandon Campbell noted that the "Dangerous by Design" ranking covers the whole metro area, cautioned against over-reading crash trends, and said staff could ask Waymo for pedestrian and cyclist data. Staff said sidewalks get roughly $1 million a year and quick-build safety work about $800,000 a year.
Carlson asked for city-specific crash data, suggested a broader "safe mobility" committee with rotating neighborhood seats and more up-front public engagement, raised Bayshore safety, potholes and missing sidewalks, and asked whether school-zone speed camera revenue (estimated around $14 million a year) could fund safety work. Maniscalco backed an advisory committee and road diets, and Hurtak suggested 20 mph neighborhood speed limits, better signage to parallel bike routes, and a committee structure like the Neighborhood Advisory Council. The item was continued unanimously to January 7, 2027 for a staff update. See Bike Pedestrian Advisory Committee.
The City Attorney's office presented its review of standard rules for boards and committees, split into the application and appointment process (Part A) and terms, composition and removal (Part B). Findings included difficulty recruiting members, quorum problems, inconsistent vacancy timelines and no consistent process to remove members who stop attending. Recommendations included an application timeline of about 45 days, applications that capture qualifications, aligning member terms with appointing officials while serving until a replacement is confirmed, tighter removal for unexcused absences, and considering non-city residents with a strong city connection. A Community Redevelopment Area item is to return next month.
Members' views differed in detail: Maniscalco and Hurtak favored a 45-day timeline, Carlson suggested a default of seven council appointees (one per member) plus four mayoral appointees and removal after three unexcused absences, and Hurtak was cautious about non-city residents and wanted public comment after each item rather than only at the end. The Council Attorney said no direction could be taken with three members absent. The presentation was received and filed. See Board and Committee Standard Rules.
Two residents spoke, one on how boards handle inappropriate members and renewals, the other on Bayshore safety, barriers for bike lanes and e-bikes on sidewalks.

Issues discussed

Agenda

CM25-18644: whether and how to update the ethics code and the Ethics Commission's structure (continued from February 26, 2026; continued to January 28, 2027).
CM25-18645: whether the ethics code is duplicative and should be modified or eliminated (continued to January 28, 2027).
CM25-20246: Bike Pedestrian Advisory Committee and multi-modal and pedestrian safety on roads, parks and trails (rescheduled several times; continued to January 7, 2027).
CM26-25343: standard rules and procedures for all committees and boards (continued from September 3, 2026; presentation received).

Sources

Video

Transcript

These are manual (live) captions, in capital letters; names and numbers may be misheard.

Transcript

10:43>>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD MORNING,

10:44EVERYONE.

10:44WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

10:46WORKSHOP EDITION.

10:47WE ARE WITH A SKELETON CREW

10:49TODAY.

10:51TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO STAND FOR

10:53A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND THEN

10:54WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF

10:55ALLEGIANCE.

10:57[MOMENT OF SILENCE]

11:09THANK YOU SO MUCH.

11:11[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

11:25THANK YOU SO MUCH.

11:25CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?

11:30>>THE CLERK: MIRANDA?

11:31>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

11:32>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

11:33>>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.

11:36>> YOUNG?

11:37VIERA?

11:37CARLSON?

11:37>>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

11:39>> CLENDENIN?

11:39WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

11:41>>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAN TELL THAT

11:42WE ARE BARE BONES TODAY.

11:44OUR CRA CHAIR, COUNCILWOMAN

11:47YOUNG IS AT THE FRA CONFERENCE,

11:49AND MR. VIERA IS NOT FEELING

11:52WELL.

11:52I AM NOT SURE WHERE CHAIR

11:54CLENDENIN IS, BUT EITHER WAY --

11:58OH, HE'S AT THE CONFERENCE, TOO.

12:03OH, PERSONAL.

12:05ANYWAY, IT IS JUST THE FOUR OF

12:06US.

12:06WE MAY BE TAKING MORE BREAKS

12:08BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET OFF THE

12:09DAIS.

12:09WE MAY BE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF

12:11BREAKS HERE AND THERE FOR FIVE

12:12MINUTES.

12:13YOU'LL HAVE TO BEAR WITH US

12:15TODAY.

12:16WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS -- DO WE

12:21NEED TO OPEN THE AGENDA?

12:21NO.

12:23I DO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT NEED

12:24TO BE CONTINUED.

12:27COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.

12:29>>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I WOULD

12:30MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEMS 1 AND 2

12:34TO JANUARY 28 WORKSHOP.

12:35>>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION

12:36TO CONTINUE ITEMS 1 AND 2 AND A

12:40SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER

12:40MANISCALCO.

12:41ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

12:43AYE.

12:47OKAY.

12:48>>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO CONTINUE

12:49THREE AND FOUR.

12:51[ LAUGHTER ]

12:53>>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, WE ONLY

12:54HAVE THREE AND FOUR.

12:55I ALSO WANTED TO HAVE MR. SHELBY

12:58REMIND FOLKS WHAT THE RULES ARE

13:02FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

13:03IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT

13:05TODAY.

13:06GO RIGHT AHEAD.

13:07YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE

13:09SPIEL.

13:09JUST TALK TO PEOPLE.

13:11>>MARTIN SHELBY: THE RULES PER

13:12YOUR AMENDED AND REVISED RULES

13:14OF PROCEDURE IS BEFORE THE END

13:16OF THE WORKSHOP, YOU WILL TAKE

13:18PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MEMBERS OF

13:20THE PUBLIC, AT LEAST THAT'S THE

13:21LAST THING I REMEMBER.

13:23I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

13:25>>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S NOT AFTER

13:26EVERY ITEM?

13:28>>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME CHECK.

13:30>>LYNN HURTAK: WHILE HE'S

13:31CHECKING, WE'LL MOVE ON.

13:32THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 3, THE

13:34DISCUSSION OF THE CREATION OF A

13:36BIKE PED ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND

13:38MULTIMODAL PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ON

13:40ROADS, PARKS AND TRAILS.

13:40GOOD MORNING.

13:41>>ADAM PURCELL: GOOD MORNING.

13:42ADAM PURCELL, TRANSPORTATION

13:44SERVICES DIRECTOR, CITY OF

13:45TAMPA.

13:46I KNOW THIS MOTION HAS BEEN A

13:47LONG TIME COMING OR THIS

13:48DISCUSSION HAS BEEN A LONG TIME

13:50COMING.

13:50IT'S BEEN CONTINUED.

13:51IT'S BEEN REVISED.

13:52WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

13:53COME TODAY AND DISCUSS IT WITH

13:55COUNCIL.

13:55THERE SHOULD BE A PRESENTATION

13:56THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

13:57>>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.

13:59>>ADAM PURCELL: IS THAT

14:00SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PUT ON THE

14:01SCREEN?

14:07IF NOT, I HAVE PAPER COPIES.

14:10>>LYNN HURTAK: THEY DON'T HAVE

14:10ONE?

14:13YEAH, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE TO

14:14GO WITH PAPER.

14:18>>ADAM PURCELL: MOVING THINGS

14:23ALONG ...

14:29>>LYNN HURTAK: THERE YOU GO.

14:30IT IS THE WHEEL THAT'S AT THE

14:32FRONT THAT YOU TURN BACK AND

14:34FORTH.

14:34THERE YOU GO.

14:35>>ADAM PURCELL: WE'LL FIGURE THE

14:36TECHNOLOGY OUT THIS MORNING.

14:37>>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S OKAY.

14:38EVERYBODY WHO COMES IN FRONT, WE

14:40ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE WHEEL.

14:44>>ADAM PURCELL: OKAY.

14:48SO, I WANTED TO TALK REALLY

14:48QUICKLY ABOUT THE TOPIC.

14:50THE MOTION TALKS ABOUT THE

14:53ESTABLISHMENT OF A BICYCLE

14:54PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

14:55IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT A DISCUSSION

15:00OF RISKS THAT OUR VULNERABLE

15:01USERS OF THE TRANSPORTATION

15:02SYSTEM FACE EVERY MONTH.

15:03I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON BOTH

15:05TODAY.

15:05MOST OF THE DISCUSSION WILL BE

15:08ABOUT TRANSPORTATION SAFETY.

15:11AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND

15:12STAFF HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS

15:14ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A BPAC,

15:17AND WE TALKED THROUGH THAT.

15:18I'LL CLOSE WITH THAT DISCUSSION

15:19AT THE END.

15:21I'LL START -- WE'LL WORK THROUGH

15:23OUR PROBLEM STATEMENT.

15:23WORK THROUGH THE PLANS THAT WE

15:25USE TO ADDRESS SAFETY.

15:27HOW WE ANALYZE CRASHES AND

15:28PROGRAM OUR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS

15:30CITYWIDE, AND THEN HOW WE GO

15:33ABOUT SOME OF OUR ENGINEERING

15:36SOLUTIONS FOR TRANSPORTATION

15:37SAFETY CITYWIDE.

15:39SO WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY BEFORE

15:42CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSING THIS

15:43TOPIC?

15:46WELL, IT'S BECAUSE ABOUT 300

15:47PEOPLE A YEAR ARE KILLED OR

15:49SERIOUSLY INJURED ON OUR

15:50ROADWAYS.

15:52SO, IN THE THEME OF HEALTH,

15:54SAFETY, AND WELFARE AS A PRIMARY

15:56PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT, WE'RE

15:57HERE TO WORK TO ADDRESS AND

15:59ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.

16:02YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TREND -- I

16:06GUESS IF THERE'S ANY GOOD NEWS

16:07ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT THE TREND

16:10IS HEADED DOWNWARDS.

16:13FROM 2020 -- MY APOLOGIES WITH

16:14THE PRINTED COPY.

16:15THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO

16:16SEE -- BUT IN 2020 THE SERIOUS

16:22INJURIES WERE MUCH LARGER.

16:23IT'S KIND OF TRENDED DOWN TO

16:262024.

16:26SO THE ONLY GOOD NEWS THAT WE

16:27HAVE ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT THE

16:29TREND IS HEADED IN THE RIGHT

16:31DIRECTION.

16:32BUT WE TYPICALLY USE FIVE-YEAR

16:33AVERAGES BECAUSE WE SEE SOME

16:35FLUCTUATION FROM YEAR TO YEAR

16:37WHERE A SINGLE INCIDENT MAY KIND

16:39OF SKEW THE DATA.

16:41WHEN WE SAY SERIOUS INJURY

16:43CRASHES, THESE ARE WHERE PEOPLE

16:44ARE TRANSPORTED TO A HOSPITAL

16:46WHERE THEY RECEIVE MEDICAL

16:48ATTENTION.

16:48AND A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF

16:50CRASHES RESULT IN LIFE-CHANGING

16:52INJURIES.

16:53SO PEOPLE SOMETIMES NEVER

16:54RECOVER FROM THOSE KINDS OF

16:56CRASHES.

16:56THEIR FAMILIES ARE AFFECTED FOR

16:59A LIFETIME BECAUSE OF THEM.

17:01AND THEN 60 PLUS PEOPLE EACH

17:03YEAR ON AVERAGE ARE LOSING THEIR

17:05LIVES ON OUR ROADWAYS.

17:06SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE FACING

17:08THAT CHALLENGE.

17:11TODAY AS A GROUP.

17:12AND TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE,

17:15FROM A BICYCLE -- I'M SORRY --

17:18FROM A PEDESTRIAN PERSPECTIVE,

17:19THE TAMPA METROPOLITAN AREA IS

17:22EXCEPTIONALLY HAZARDOUS FOR

17:24PEDESTRIANS.

17:25WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NATION, WE

17:29ARE NUMBER 8 NATIONALLY FOR

17:33DEATHS OF PEDESTRIANS PER

17:35100,000 RESIDENTS.

17:38IT'S A SUN-BELT ISSUE.

17:39IT'S A KIND OF URBAN DESIGN CITY

17:44DEVELOPMENT ISSUE THAT POSTWAR

17:47IN THE SOUTH CITIES WERE BUILT

17:49TO SERVICE THE AUTOMOBILE.

17:51AND THAT RESULTS IN A CONDITION

17:54WHERE IT'S HAZARDOUS FOR OUR

17:56VULNERABLE USERS.

17:56SO WHEN I SAY "VULNERABLE

17:58USERS," THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT

18:00ARE RIDING BICYCLES, THAT ARE

18:01WALKING ON OUR ROADWAYS, THAT

18:02DON'T HAVE AN AIR BAG, THAT

18:04DON'T HAVE A SEAT BELT, THAT

18:06DON'T HAVE THE STEEL CAGE OF AN

18:08AUTOMOBILE PROTECTING THEM IN A

18:09CRASH.

18:09THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE

18:11WALKING OR RIDING A BICYCLE AND

18:13ARE ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE TO

18:15CRASHES.

18:15THIS FIGURE SHOWS THAT FLORIDA

18:17IS NUMBER FIVE NATIONALLY AS A

18:18STATE WITH THE DEATH OF

18:22PEDESTRIANS PER 100,000

18:22RESIDENTS, AND THE TAMPA METRO

18:24AREA IS NUMBER 8 NATIONALLY.

18:28SO THIS IS A PROBLEM OF

18:31SIGNIFICANCE HERE, AND WHEN WE

18:32COMPARE IT TO THE OTHER AREAS OF

18:34THE COUNTRY, WE ARE AT THE TOP

18:36OF THE LIST.

18:41WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT AS A

18:42CITY?

18:46WE'VE DEVELOPED AN ACTION PLAN.

18:49A SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

18:50WE HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THE

18:51CONDITIONS ON OUR ROADWAYS.

18:54WE'VE MET WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS

18:57AND ORGANIZATIONS.

18:58WE'VE BROUGHT IN OUTSIDE

19:00CONSULTANTS TO EVALUATE OUR

19:02TRANSPORTATION SAFETY

19:03CONDITIONS, AND WE DEVELOPED AN

19:04ACTION PLAN THAT LAYS OUT A

19:06SERIES OF STRATEGIES THAT WE AS

19:08A CITY CAN UNDERTAKE TO MITIGATE

19:10THE CRASHES AND THE HAZARDS THAT

19:12OCCUR ON OUR ROADWAY NETWORKS.

19:14WE COMPLETED THAT PLAN BACK IN

19:172021.

19:17SO THERE WAS A PUSH WITH USDOT

19:21TO FUND SAFETY PROJECTS

19:22NATIONALLY.

19:23AND IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THAT

19:26FEDERAL FUNDING, THOSE

19:27JURISDICTIONS HAD TO HAVE A

19:29SAFETY -- COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY

19:30ACTION PLAN IN PLACE OR YOU

19:33COULD NOT APPLY FOR THE FEDERAL

19:35FUNDS.

19:36IN THAT ASPECT, THAT SERVED US

19:38WELL.

19:39WE'VE GOTTEN TENS OF MILLIONS OF

19:40DOLLARS IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR

19:42SAFETY IN THE CITY BECAUSE WE

19:43HAD THAT VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN

19:44IN PLACE.

19:45THAT ACTION PLAN CAME JUST

19:47BEFORE OUR CITYWIDE MOBILITY

19:49PLAN.

19:49SO IT KIND OF SET THE BASIS OF

19:53THE DISCUSSION ON SAFETY.

19:54AND THEN OUR MOBILITY PLAN MOVED

19:56TO IMPLEMENT MANY OF THE

19:58POLICIES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN

19:59THAT SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

20:03OUR SAFETY ACTION PLAN IS BASED

20:06ON THE IDEA OF A SAFE SYSTEMS

20:09APPROACH.

20:09I WAS HOPING COUNCILMAN

20:10CLENDENIN WAS HERE TODAY BECAUSE

20:12THE SAFE SYSTEMS MODEL COMES

20:14FROM THE FEDERAL AVIATION

20:15ADMINISTRATION.

20:16IT COMES FROM THE IDEA THAT ANY

20:19SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE SHOULD

20:20NOT RESULT IN A CRASH OR AN

20:24INCIDENT THAT RESULTS IN SERIOUS

20:25INJURY OR LOSS OF LIFE.

20:26SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAD THIS

20:29IDEA, THIS SWISS CHEESE MODEL IS

20:30WHAT WE CALL IT ON THE SAFETY

20:33SIDE OF THE RISK MANAGEMENT

20:34SIDE, WHERE ANY SINGLE POINT OF

20:37FAILURE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE

20:38WHOLE, THAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY

20:39FOR THAT RISK OF FAILURE, BUT AS

20:42IT FALLS THROUGH THAT LEVEL, IT

20:44SHOULD REACH ANOTHER LEVEL OF

20:46REDUNDANCY WHERE ANOTHER FACTOR

20:49LIMITS THE SEVERITY OF THAT

20:50INCIDENT SO THAT IT DOESN'T

20:51RESULT IN A SERIOUS INJURY OR

20:54FATAL CRASH.

20:54WE LOOK AT IT AS SAFE FOR

20:56PEOPLE, SAFE FOR STREETS, SAFE

20:57FOR SPEEDS, SAFE FOR VEHICLES

21:00AND POSTCRASH CARE.

21:03SO WE LAYER THOSE DEFENSES OR

21:05THOSE LAYERS OF MITIGATION SO

21:08THAT ONE UNSAFE ACTION, ONE

21:11UNSAFE VEHICLE, ONE UNSAFE

21:13ROADWAY DOESN'T RESULT IN A

21:15FATAL OR SERIOUS INJURY CRASH,

21:17BUT WE LAYER THAT SAFETY

21:19APPROACH SO THAT THE LIKELIHOOD

21:21OF A SERIOUS INJURY IS LIMITED.

21:28SO, HOW DO WE BEGIN TO ANALYZE

21:29THE SYSTEM?

21:30HOW DO WE TARGET OUR INVESTMENT?

21:34HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THE AREAS

21:37THAT ARE ISSUES WITHIN THE CITY?

21:40WE HAVE ACCESS TO STATEWIDE

21:43DATABASE OF EVERY CRASH THAT

21:45OCCURS WITHIN THE CITY.

21:46SO THESE ARE BASED ON POLICE

21:49REPORTS.

21:49SO EVERY REPORTED CRASH IS PUT

21:51INTO A DATABASE.

21:52THAT DATABASE IS SUMMARIZED.

21:53AND WE CAN MAP IT.

21:55AND WE CAN BEGIN TO ANALYZE THE

21:57DATA.

21:57SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CRASH

21:59DATA PRESENTED HERE THAT YOU CAN

22:02START TO SEE SOME OF THE

22:02CORRIDORS IN THE CITY WHERE THE

22:05CRASHES ARE MORE FREQUENT, WHERE

22:06THEY ARE MORE SEVERE.

22:08AND WE START TO AS A STAFF LOOK

22:10AT THOSE AND ANALYZE THOSE

22:13CORRIDORS.

22:14WE TAKE THIS DATA -- AND THIS IS

22:16FIVE-YEAR -- THIS IS FIVE YEARS

22:17OF CRASHES WITHIN THE CITY OF

22:19TAMPA BETWEEN 2020 AND 2024.

22:21SO EVERY CRASH -- EVERY SEVERE

22:23INJURY OR FATAL CRASH IN THE

22:25CITY IS INCLUDED IN THIS MAP.

22:27THE RED AREAS ARE THOSE AREAS

22:28THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST

22:29CONCENTRATION OF CRASHES.

22:32WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND WE

22:34ANALYZE IT.

22:35WE LOOK AT IT ON TRAFFIC VOLUME.

22:37WE LOOK AT IT ON SEGMENT

22:41CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ROADWAY.

22:42WE WORK TO DEFINE A HIGH INJURY

22:44NETWORK.

22:44SO THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK IS

22:47WHERE MOST OF THE CRASHES ON THE

22:50SYSTEM OCCUR BASED ON THE TOTAL

22:54AREA OF THE SYSTEM.

22:56WE'VE BROKEN IT DOWN INTO JUST

22:58THE FIRST MAP SHOWS GENERALLY

23:01ALL CRASHES ON THE SYSTEM, WHAT

23:02IT LOOKS LIKE.

23:03BUT THEN WE CAN START TO DRILL

23:04DOWN INTO THE DATA AND LOOK AT

23:06LIKE THE CENTER MAP WHERE THAT

23:09SHOWS BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN

23:11CRASHES.

23:11SO THAT'S OUR HIGH INJURY

23:13NETWORK FOR BICYCLE AND

23:14PEDESTRIAN CRASHES.

23:15AND THEN YOU CAN LOOK TO THE

23:17RIGHT WHERE WE HAVE HIGH INJURY

23:18INTERSECTIONS.

23:20SO THIS LETS US BEGIN TO

23:22IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS OF THE

23:23SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE THE GREATEST

23:25PROBLEMS ON AND FOCUS OUR

23:28RESOURCES SO WE CAN ADDRESS

23:29THOSE AREAS OF GREATEST NEED.

23:32WE DO A LOT OF DATA ANALYSIS ON

23:36THOSE CRASH REPORTS.

23:37WE PULL STATISTICS OUT OF THEM.

23:39WE'RE ABLE TO START TO BUILD

23:41PROFILES FOR ROADWAY TYPES.

23:43THIS IS THE MOST HAZARDOUS

23:45ROADWAY TYPE IN THE CITY.

23:46THIS IS A SIX LANE HIGH-SPEED

23:50ROADWAY.

23:50SO SPEED LIMIT OF 40 OR 50 MILES

23:52AN HOUR.

23:53AND WE KNOW THAT SPEED IS A

23:55DIRECT CONTRIBUTOR TO SEVERITY

23:57OF A CRASH.

23:58SO WE CAN SEE THAT ALONG THESE

24:01ROADS THAT THEY ARE

24:03EXCEPTIONALLY HAZARDOUS FOR

24:05THOSE VULNERABLE USERS.

24:07YOU WOULD THINK THAT A LOT OF

24:09AUTOMOBILES TRAVEL ALONG THOSE

24:10ROADS AND NOT SO MANY BICYCLE

24:11AND PEDESTRIANS DO, AND THAT'S

24:13TRUE, BUT WHEN THE CRASHES OCCUR

24:15ON THESE FACILITIES AND THEY

24:16INVOLVE THOSE VULNERABLE USERS,

24:23THEN THERE ARE EXCEPTIONALLY

24:25GRAVE CONSEQUENCES FOR PEOPLE

24:26THAT DON'T HAVE THE PROTECTION

24:27OF THE VEHICLE.

24:2850% OF ALL FATAL CRASHES

24:31INVOLVING BICYCLISTS AND

24:31PEDESTRIANS OCCUR ON THIS TYPE

24:32OF ROAD.

24:35THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE WANT TO

24:37FOCUS SOME RESOURCES.

24:38WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT THIS, AND IT

24:40LETS US START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT

24:43CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT ROADWAY

24:45ARE STARTING TO CONTRIBUTE TO

24:48THOSE CONDITIONS.

24:50IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO

24:51READ HERE.

24:52AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE

24:53PRINTED COPY.

24:55BUT ALONG CYCLE LENGTH AND

24:57PERMISSIVE LEFT-TURN PHASES,

25:01INCONSISTENT MEDIANS, SO WE

25:02START TO LOOK AT VEHICLES

25:03TURNING ACROSS THOSE ROADWAYS.

25:04WE START TO LOOK AT POINTS OF

25:06CONFLICT BETWEEN VEHICLES.

25:07WE START TO LOOK AT POINTS OF

25:10CONFLICT BETWEEN PEDESTRIANS AND

25:10VEHICLES.

25:12WE SEE THE DART AND DASH, SO THE

25:14POLICE OFFICER THAT REPORTS

25:16THOSE TYPES OF CRASHES WILL

25:19CHARACTERIZE THE CAUSE OF THE

25:20CRASH IN THE POLICE REPORT, SO

25:21WE CAN SEE THAT PEOPLE DARTING

25:22AND DASHING ACROSS THE ROAD

25:25CONTRIBUTE HIGHLY TO THOSE.

25:26JUST OVER HALF OF THE CRASHES

25:27ALONG THOSE TYPES OF CORRIDORS

25:30OCCUR AT NIGHT.

25:31WE UNDERSTAND MAYBE THERE ARE

25:32LIGHTING CONDITIONS INVOLVED IN

25:33THOSE TYPES OF CRASHES.

25:35WE DON'T JUST DO THAT FOR THE

25:37SIX-LANE ROADS, BUT WE DO IT FOR

25:39ALL THE ROAD TYPES THAT WE HAVE

25:40IN THE CITY.

25:41WE CAN START TO LOOK AT SOME OF

25:43THE SMALLER ROADS.

25:43THIS LOOKS A LOT LIKE

25:46MacDILL.

25:46THIS LOOKS A LOT LIKE COLUMBUS.

25:48SOME OF THE OTHER SMALLER

25:50ROADWAYS IN THE CITY THAT WE

25:51HAVE THAT ARE LOWER SPEED.

25:52ONE OF THE THINGS WE SEE ON

25:55THESE ROADS IS THAT THE

25:57OCCURRENCE OF CRASHES IS

25:58UNDERREPRESENTED WHEN YOU LOOK

25:59AT THE LENGTH OF THE ROADWAY

26:01PRESENT.

26:01WE KNOW THESE ROADWAYS ARE A

26:03LITTLE BIT SAFER THAN THE SIX

26:05LANE ROADS AND LIKELY JUST

26:06BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATION OF

26:07SPEED ON THESE ROADS.

26:09YOU DON'T HAVE THE HIGHER SPEED

26:11CRASHES.

26:11YOU DON'T HAVE THE FORCE

26:12INVOLVED IN THEM AND YOU DON'T

26:14HAVE THE SEVERE AND FATAL

26:16INJURIES IN THESE CRASHES AS

26:17WELL.

26:17BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE -- THIS IS

26:19A LITTLE EASIER TO READ ON THIS

26:23SLIDE -- BUT THE CRASH

26:25CONSIDERATIONS.

26:26THIS STARTS TO LET US HAVE AN

26:27IDEA WHERE THE PROBLEMS ALONG

26:29THESE CORRIDORS EXIST, LIKE

26:30DRIVEWAYS.

26:31IF YOU THINK OF SOME OF THOSE

26:32SMALLER ROADS, FREQUENT

26:34DRIVEWAYS WHERE THERE IS A

26:35BICYCLIST OR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING

26:37THAT DRIVEWAY WHERE THERE IS A

26:38CAR TURNING FROM A DRIVEWAY INTO

26:40A TRAVEL LANE, THOSE ARE THE

26:41AREAS THAT WE START TO LOOK TO

26:43ADDRESS PROBLEMS ON THE SYSTEM.

26:45ONCE WE HAVE THIS TYPE OF

26:49INFORMATION, THIS TYPE OF

26:51CHARACTERIZATION OF ISSUE, WE

26:52START TO LOOK FROM AN

26:54ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE HOW WE

26:55CAN BEGIN TO ADDRESS IT.

26:57SO THIS COMES OUT OF THAT SAME

26:59DANGEROUS BY A DESIGN BOOK THAT

27:02THE PEDESTRIAN CRASH DATA CAME

27:03OUT OF, AND IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW,

27:06THE EXISTING CONDITION ON THE

27:07LEFT.

27:07THAT COULD BE JUST ABOUT ANY

27:10INTERSECTION IN THE CITY OF

27:10TAMPA.

27:11A LOT OF OUR INTERSECTIONS LOOK

27:13AT THAT.

27:14AND THEN AS ENGINEERS WE START

27:15TO LOOK AT THOSE POINTS OF

27:18CONFLICT.

27:18WE START TO LOOK AT THE AREAS

27:20WHERE FASTER MOVING VEHICLES ARE

27:22INTERACTING WITH OTHER VEHICLES

27:23OR INTERACTING WITH PEDESTRIANS.

27:24AND THAT'S WHERE THAT SECOND

27:27FRAME, THAT OPPORTUNITY FRAME

27:29FOR CHANGE IS WHERE WE SEE AN

27:32OPPORTUNITY FOR ADJUSTMENT.

27:32YOU CAN SEE IN THE ORANGE AREA,

27:35ON THE TOP RIGHT QUADRANT OF THE

27:36INTERSECTION, THERE IS A

27:38CONTINUOUS RIGHT-TURN LANE.

27:39THAT'S GREAT FOR THE MOVEMENT OF

27:40CARS AND THE SPEED OF CARS

27:42MOVING THROUGH AN INTERSECTION.

27:44IT'S REALLY BAD FOR PEDESTRIANS.

27:46SO WE KNOW THAT AREAS WHERE WE

27:48HAVE THOSE CONTINUOUS RIGHT-TURN

27:49LANES, THAT NEEDS TO BE A POINT

27:52WHERE THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC

27:54HAS TO BE PRIORITIZED OR NEEDS

27:56TO BE PRIORITIZED, BUT WE REALLY

27:58DO LOOK FOR CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE

28:01THAT MOVEMENT OF VEHICLES ISN'T

28:02THE SOLE PRIORITY FOR THAT

28:04INTERSECTION.

28:04WE LOOK FOR WAYS THAT WE CAN

28:06MAKE IT SAFER.

28:08WE DO THAT.

28:09WE LOOK IN THE BOTTOM LEFT

28:11QUADRANT OF THE EXISTING

28:12CONDITION, YOU CAN SEE A REALLY

28:13EXTENSIVE DRIVEWAY.

28:14WE ALSO LOOK AT THOSE AS

28:16POTENTIAL POINTS OF CONFLICT.

28:17WE COME IN AND WE TRY TO

28:19DESIGNATE THE SPACE FOR THE

28:21SEPARATION OF TYPE OR MODE TYPE.

28:23SO WE WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE

28:26MOTORISTS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE

28:27OPERATING AND WHERE THEY SHOULD

28:30BE TURNING.

28:30WE WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE

28:32BICYCLISTS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE

28:33OPERATING AND MAKE CLEAR TO THE

28:34PEDESTRIANS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE

28:36OPERATING.

28:36PROVIDE AS MUCH DISTINCTION OR

28:38SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE AREAS

28:39AS WE CAN TO REDUCE THE

28:42CONFLICT.

28:42SO YOU CAN SEE WE TAKE THAT

28:44INTERSECTION ON THE LEFT AND FOR

28:46A SAFER DESIGN, WE CAN IMPLEMENT

28:48AN INTERSECTION ON THE RIGHT.

28:50SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE TAKEN OUT

28:51THAT RIGHT-TURN LANE.

28:53WE'VE REDUCED THE DRIVEWAY

28:54ENTRANCE LENGTHS TO SHORTER,

28:56MORE FOCUSED DRIVEWAYS, SO THAT

28:57POINTS OF CONFLICT CROSSING

29:00SIDEWALKS ENTERING TRAVEL LANES

29:01ARE SMALLER.

29:01BUT THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF

29:02THINGS THAT WE TRY TO DO FROM AN

29:06ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE.

29:07THIS IS ALSO A GREAT EXAMPLE.

29:11WE GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT

29:13ROUNDABOUTS.

29:15THIS ROUNDABOUT IS LOCATED AT

29:18OSBORNE AND 34th.

29:19IT'S SOMETHING WE CONSTRUCTED.

29:20BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM A TRAFFIC

29:22ENGINEERING OR OPERATIONS

29:24PERSPECTIVE, AT A STANDARD

29:25INTERSECTION, THOSE RED DOTS ARE

29:28ALL POTENTIAL CONFLICT POINTS

29:29FOR VEHICLES.

29:29WHEN YOU LOOK AT A ROUNDABOUT,

29:32THE RED DOTS ARE THE POTENTIAL

29:34CONFLICT POINTS FOR VEHICLES.

29:35YOU CAN SEE WHY WHERE WE HAVE AN

29:37OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THINGS

29:40LIKE ROUNDABOUTS AS A SAFETY

29:42COUNTER MEASURE, WE LIKE TO DO

29:43IT BECAUSE IT TAKES AWAY A LOT

29:46OF THOSE CONFLICT POINTS.

29:47LIKE I NOTED, THIS IS ONE

29:49LOCATION WHERE WE STARTED TO

29:50IMPLEMENT THAT KIND OF SOLUTION.

29:53SO WHERE HAVE WE DONE THESE

29:55KINDS OF THINGS AROUND THE CITY?

29:56WHERE DO WE PLAN TO DO THEM?

29:59WE IMPLEMENT THIS SAFETY PLAN

30:01THROUGH A SERIES OF CAPITAL

30:04IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

30:04THIS IS AN EXAMPLE FROM COLUMBUS

30:07WHERE WE'RE WORKING ON A PROJECT

30:09TO IMPROVE COLUMBUS FROM 34th

30:11ALL THE WAY TO DALE MABRY.

30:14THIS WAS THE FIRST PHASE.

30:15THIS IS IN EAST TAMPA.

30:17IT'S BEEN REALLY WELL RECEIVED

30:19BY THE COMMUNITY.

30:20WE'VE COME IN AND TAKEN A

30:22ROADWAY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY

30:23FAIRLY HAZARDOUS FOR PEDESTRIANS

30:26THAT DIDN'T HAVE THAT CLEAR

30:29DELINEATION OF USE -- OR SPACE

30:30FOR USE, AND WE'VE DONE AN

30:32UPDATE ON COLUMBUS.

30:33THAT'S ROLLING TO THE WEST.

30:35THE WEST RIVER PROJECT WILL BE

30:38IMPLEMENTING A PHASE IN WEST

30:39TAMPA AS IT GOES -- COLUMBUS

30:42GOES ACROSS THE HILLSBOROUGH

30:42RIVER.

30:43SO WE'LL BE DOING AN IMPROVEMENT

30:45ON COLUMBUS THERE.

30:46AGAIN, THIS IS TO IMPLEMENT SOME

30:51OF THOSE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS.

30:52WE'LL LOOK AT THE SIDEWALK

30:53EXTENSIONS AS A WAY TO REDUCE

30:55THE CROSSING DISTANCE FOR

30:57PEDESTRIANS TO LET THE

30:58PEDESTRIANS BECOME VISIBLE

30:59BEFORE THEY ENTER THE ROADWAY.

31:01YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SOLUTION

31:04HAS RFB.

31:04THOSE ARE THE FLASHING BEACONS

31:08THAT PEOPLE CAN WAIT TO SHOW

31:09THEY ARE ENTERING THE CROSSWALK

31:11TO BRING MORE ATTENTION TO THEM

31:13FROM DRIVERS.

31:13WE'VE DONE A PROJECT.

31:15WE'VE STARTED THE PROJECT ON

31:16COLUMBUS.

31:17WE COMPLETED A PHASE OF IT.

31:18BUT ADDITIONAL PHASES ARE COMING

31:20AND WE'LL BE ROLLING FURTHER TO

31:21THE WEST.

31:22WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE GREEN

31:24ARTERY.

31:24THIS IS THAT PLACE WHERE WE WANT

31:26TO WORK, DEVELOP A LOOP THROUGH

31:28THE CITY WHERE IT'S CLEAR THAT

31:31PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS HAVE

31:34SAFE ACCOMMODATION ON THE ROADS

31:35SO THEY CAN MOVE THROUGHOUT THE

31:36CITY.

31:36WE'VE CONSTRUCTED THE TWO

31:37SEGMENTS TO THE NORTH, SEGMENTS

31:39E AND D, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH

31:41OUR PLANNING AND ENGINEERING

31:43DEPARTMENT NOW TO DEVELOP THE

31:45CONCEPTS AND THE DESIGNS FOR THE

31:47REMAINING SEGMENTS OF THE

31:47PROJECT.

31:52ALSO DOWNTOWN, IT RUNS RIGHT

31:55PAST CITY HALL, THE CYCLE TRACK

31:57THAT WE IMPLEMENTED ON JACKSON.

31:59AS WE START TO SEE THE INCREASE

32:01OF E-BIKES, I THINK WE ALL AGREE

32:03THAT THEY DON'T -- MOST

32:06CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY DON'T REALLY

32:06FIT ON THE SIDEWALKS.

32:07IN A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY

32:09DON'T REALLY FIT IN THE TRAVEL

32:11LANES.

32:11SO WHERE CAN WE PUT THEM?

32:13THOSE PROTECTED BIKE LANES ARE A

32:15GREAT SPOT FOR E-BIKES.

32:17IT GIVES THEM A SAFE PLACE TO

32:20OPERATE OUTSIDE OF THE RISK OF

32:22BEING HIT BY A VEHICLE OR

32:23OUTSIDE OF THE RISK OF HITTING A

32:25PEDESTRIAN ON A SIDEWALK.

32:26SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

32:28MORGAN STREET IS A PROJECT THAT

32:30WE'RE GETTING READY TO ADVANCE

32:32DOWNTOWN.

32:32THAT'S REALLY OUR NORTH-SOUTH

32:35TIE TOGETHER.

32:36WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE A

32:37PROTECTED BIKE LANE ON MORGAN

32:40ALL THE WAY FROM BROREIN UP TO

32:43FORTUNE.

32:44THAT WILL TIE TOGETHER SOME OF

32:45THE EAST-WEST CONNECTIONS THAT

32:46WE ALREADY HAVE.

32:47CASS STREET, THE CYCLE TRACK ON

32:50CASS IS A GREAT SUCCESS STORY.

32:53THERE IS A COUNTER ON CASS NEAR

32:57THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.

33:00WE HAD 300,000 PEOPLE LAST YEAR

33:01USE THE CYCLE TRACK ON CASS

33:02STREET.

33:04TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHEN --

33:06SOMETIMES WHEN IT'S BUILT, THAT

33:07IT'S USED, AND IT'S USED SAFELY.

33:11IN ADDITION TO OUR CAPITAL

33:13PROJECTS, YOU MAY HEAR A LOT OF

33:15CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR

33:16QUICK-BUILD PROJECTS.

33:17THAT'S WHERE WE GO IN AND WE

33:19DON'T DO A WHOLE LOT OF

33:21EXTENSIVE ENGINEERING WORK.

33:22WELL, A WHOLE LOT OF PHYSICAL

33:24WORK TO CHANGE THE CONDITION OF

33:27THE CORRIDOR.

33:27WE LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THIS

33:29THROUGH PAINT, THROUGH

33:31DELINEATORS, TO KIND OF RESTRIPE

33:33THE SPACE AND REDEFINE THAT

33:35SPACE THROUGH LOWER COST

33:36ELEMENTS.

33:37THAT CAN BE DEPLOYED MUCH

33:39QUICKER.

33:39A LOT OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS,

33:42THOSE TAKE A YEAR TO PLAN, A

33:45YEAR OR TWO TO DESIGN, AND THEN

33:46A YEAR OR TWO TO CONSTRUCT.

33:48AND SOMETIMES THE PUBLIC WANTS

33:50TO SEE SOMETHING RELATED TO

33:52SAFETY MUCH FASTER THAN A

33:55FIVE-YEAR TURNAROUND.

33:55THIS QUICK-BUILD PROJECT PROGRAM

33:58IS SOMETHING WE CAN USE WHERE WE

33:59CAN DO IT RELATIVELY QUICKLY AND

34:01WE CAN HAVE AN EFFECT ON SAFETY

34:03THROUGH THE QUICK-BUILD

34:05PROJECTS.

34:05ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT WHEN WE

34:07MOVED QUICKLY WAS AFTER THE

34:09CRASH IN YBOR.

34:12WE CAME IN.

34:13THE POLICE CHASE THAT OCCURRED

34:15IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE CAME ON

34:177th AVENUE.

34:187th AVENUE WAS KIND OF AN

34:22UNIMPEDED WIDE LANE ROADWAY TO

34:23THE LEFT WHERE THAT VEHICLE

34:27EASILY REACHED HIGHER SPEEDS.

34:28WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO THROUGH

34:29THE QUICK BUILD PROJECT IS COME

34:32IN WITH PAINT AND INCLUDE

34:34ON-STREET PARKING.

34:34SO NOW WHEN 7th AVENUE IS

34:37OCCUPIED BY PEOPLE, WE EXPECT

34:38THAT THESE SPACES WOULD BE

34:40OCCUPIED BY CARS.

34:41THAT NARROWS THE ROADWAY.

34:44IT PUTS A CHICANE IN THE

34:49ROADWAY, SO A VEHICLE TRAVELING

34:50AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED WILL

34:52HAVE TROUBLE MANEUVERING THROUGH

34:53THIS TYPE OF CONDITION OR FOR

34:55THE STANDARD DRIVER, IT WILL

34:57GIVE THEM A VISUAL CUE THAT THE

34:59ROAD IS NARROWING, THAT IT IS A

35:01MORE ACTIVE SPACE AND THEY NEED

35:03TO SLOW DOWN.

35:04THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE

35:06QUICK-BUILDS THAT WE'VE

35:07ADVANCED.

35:09LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, I NOTED

35:11THAT WE WERE SUCCESSFUL THROUGH

35:13THAT VISION ZERO PROGRAM AND

35:16THROUGH OUR FEDERAL FUNDING

35:19OPPORTUNITIES, WE'VE RECEIVED

35:19TWO GRANTS THROUGH FEDERAL

35:22HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION FOR

35:23SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS CITYWIDE.

35:24THE FIRST IS A 2022 SAFE STREETS

35:27AND ROADS FOR ALL GRANT.

35:29THAT IS A $20 MILLION

35:31IMPLEMENTATION GRANT.

35:33IT INCLUDES 20 ROADWAY SEGMENTS

35:35THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND

35:38IMPLEMENT TRANSPORTATION SAFETY

35:40IMPROVEMENTS.

35:41WE'VE GOT THROUGH CONCEPT

35:44DEVELOPMENT.

35:44WE ARE WORKING TO FINISH THE

35:47ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS THAT'S

35:47REQUIRED FOR THE FEDERAL

35:49PROJECTS AND PLAN TO PUT THIS

35:50OUT FOR DESIGN-BUILD IN EARLY OF

35:54'27.

35:54WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE CONCEPT

35:56PHASE, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO BEGIN

35:58THE FINAL DESIGN AND

36:00CONSTRUCTION ON THAT.

36:00AND THEN WE'VE JUST FINALIZED

36:02OUR GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THE 2023

36:04SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL.

36:07THAT'S FOUR CORRIDORS THAT WE'RE

36:08GOING TO COME IN AND DO THOSE

36:10KIND OF QUICK-BUILD SOLUTIONS TO

36:16IMPROVE SAFETY.

36:16THE COST IS ABOUT 2.6 MILLION.

36:18THIS IS JUST THE GRANT FUNDING.

36:20THERE IS A LOCAL MATCH FOR EACH

36:22OF THESE.

36:22I THINK THE TOTAL COST FOR SS 4A

36:27IS 25 MILLION AND 2023, ABOUT

36:293.6 MILLION.

36:30THE VALUE OF THE PROJECTS IS

36:31PRETTY HIGH.

36:32ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE 2022

36:35SS4A PROJECT IS LETTING US DO IS

36:39ADVANCE SIDEWALK SAFETY ACTION

36:41PLAN OR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ACTION

36:42PLAN.

36:43RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY, AND THIS

36:44IS OUT OF THE MOVES PLAN.

36:46THE MOVES PLAN IDENTIFIED 1300

36:48MILES OF SIDEWALK GAPS IN THE

36:51CITY.

36:51IT STARTED TO DO A

36:53PRIORITIZATION OF THOSE GAPS.

36:55IT IDENTIFIED 400 MILES OF HIGH

36:57PRIORITY SIDEWALK GAPS.

36:58IT COST US, IF YOU LOOK AT THE

37:02$220 A LINEAR FEW FOOT THAT WE

37:06-- LINEAR FOOT THAT WE USED FOR

37:07THE CONSTRUCTION OF SIDEWALKS

37:08COST ESTIMATE, THAT'S OVER A

37:10BILLION DOLLARS IN SIDEWALK NEED

37:12WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.

37:13SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO -- WE

37:15UNDERSTAND THAT A BILLION

37:16DOLLARS IS NOT GOING TO BE MADE

37:17AVAILABLE FOR SIDEWALKS.

37:19WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO

37:21PRIORITIZE THAT INVESTMENT SO IT

37:23BEST ADDRESSES THE PROBLEM.

37:24WE'VE GOT A $1.7 MILLION

37:28ALLOCATION IN THAT 2022 SS4A

37:30PROJECT TO DO A CITYWIDE

37:32PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

37:33THAT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ACTION

37:34PLAN IS GOING TO LET US REVIEW

37:37AND PRIORITIZE THE SIDEWALK GAPS

37:38IDENTIFIED HERE.

37:39IT'S ALSO GOING TO LET US

37:40UNDERTAKE AN ADA RETROFIT.

37:42SO MANY OF OUR SIDEWALKS AND OUR

37:44RAMPS WERE NOT BUILT IN A MANNER

37:47THAT MEETS CURRENT AMERICANS

37:49WITH DISABILITIES ACT STANDARDS.

37:50THE CITY IS A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.

37:52I THINK THAT BILL -- OR THAT LAW

37:55WAS INTRODUCED IN THE 1990s.

37:57MUCH OF THE CITY NEEDS TO BE

37:58RETROFITTED SO THAT IT'S

38:00ACCESSIBLE BY ALL PEOPLE OF ALL

38:02ABILITIES, AND IT'S THE FEDERAL

38:03LAW TO DO SO.

38:04THIS PLAN WILL HELP FACILITATE

38:09THAT.

38:09THIS PLAN IS WHERE WE HOPE TO

38:11BRING IN THAT PEDESTRIAN --

38:13BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY

38:15COMMITTEE.

38:15WE WANT TO CREATE A COMMITTEE

38:17WITH PURPOSE, AND WE WANT TO

38:22CREATE A COMMITTEE THAT HAS THE

38:24AUTHORITY TO TAKE ACTION.

38:25SO WE HOPE TO BRING THEM IN AS

38:27PART OF THIS PROJECT.

38:29THEY'LL WORK AS AN ADVISORY

38:30GROUP OR A STAKEHOLDER IN THE

38:32DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLAN.

38:33AND THEN AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS

38:35PLAN -- WE EXPECT THIS TO TAKE

38:37ANYWHERE BETWEEN 18 AND 24

38:39MONTHS FOR THE EVALUATION OF THE

38:43CONDITION AND THE FINALIZATION

38:44OF THE PLAN.

38:45WE EXPECT THROUGH THAT 24 MONTH

38:48PERIOD WORK WITH THAT BICYCLE

38:50PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE,

38:51AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW THAT

38:53COULD BECOME A PERMANENT FIXTURE

38:54WITHIN THE CITY.

38:55SEE HOW IT FUNCTIONS WITHIN THIS

39:00SPECIFIED TASK AND SEE HOW IT

39:01PERFORMS AND SEE HOW WE WANT TO

39:03IMPLEMENT IT CITYWIDE AND

39:04CONTINUE IT.

39:07WITH THAT, I THINK THAT'S MY

39:09RESPONSE TO THE MOTION.

39:10I'M HERE FOR DISCUSSION.

39:11>>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO

39:12MUCH.

39:15COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.

39:18>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN I FIRST

39:20STARTED HERE, I BELIEVE WE WERE

39:21RANKED NUMBER TWO IN THE COUNTRY

39:23FOR PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES.

39:24NOT NUMBER ONE.

39:26MAYBE NUMBER TWO.

39:27WE WERE ONE OF THE WORST.

39:28IT'S ENCOURAGING TO SEE WE'RE

39:30NOW AT NUMBER 8, BUT IT'S NOT

39:32ANYTHING TO BE PROUD OF.

39:33WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS BUT WE

39:34STILL HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO.

39:36THE GOAL IS WITH VISION ZERO TO

39:38GET OFF THAT LIST, OF THAT

39:41RANKING.

39:43YOU MENTIONED WITH THE ADVENT OF

39:47THE AUTOMOBILE -- AND THAT'S

39:48WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES -- BUT IT

39:51GOES EVEN FARTHER BACK THAN

39:52THAT.

39:53A FORMER TAMPA MAYOR IN 1909 WAS

39:55KILLED IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT.

39:57HE WAS IN A HORSE AND BUGGY, AND

40:00HE COLLIDED WITH, FROM WHAT I

40:02READ, HE COLLIDED WITH A TRUCK,

40:04WHICH WAS NEW AT THE TIME.

40:06SO WE HAVE A HISTORY GOING BACK

40:07TO EVEN LEADERSHIP.

40:11IN 1909.

40:12MOVING FORWARD AS HISTORY

40:14PROGRESSES AND WITH THE

40:15INTRODUCTION OF AUTOMOBILES AND

40:17AWAY FROM HORSE AND BUGGIES

40:18WHICH MOVE AT A MUCH SLOWER

40:20SPEED, THERE WERE ACCIDENTS BUT

40:21NOT LIKE WE SEE WITH THE

40:23AUTOMOBILE, WE HAD THE

40:25STREETCAR, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE

40:26THAT USAGE OF CARS UNTIL REALLY

40:301946.

40:30IN THAT ERA, POST-WORLD WAR II

40:33IT WAS, WIDENING THE ROADS,

40:35BUILDING THE INTERSTATES AND THE

40:38HIGHWAYS, PUSHING BY THE

40:39AUTOMOBILE COMPANIES AND THE

40:40TIRE COMPANIES AND GREAT

40:41STREETCAR DISAPPEARANCE, HAVING

40:42THE INDEPENDENCE OF HAVING YOUR

40:44AUTOMOBILE.

40:45AND IN THAT, WE SEE A RISE IN --

40:49CLEARLY, MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.

40:51RISE IN FATALITIES.

40:53WHETHER SOMEBODY NOT WEARING A

40:54SEAT BELT, SOMEBODY CROSSING THE

40:56STREET, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT AS

40:57WE GET INTO THE 21st CENTURY

40:59AND NOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS

41:04DATA.

41:04LIKE YOU SHOWED THE THREE

41:06INTERSECTIONS AND HOW YOU HAVE

41:07EXISTING, WHAT CAN BE DONE AND

41:09WHAT THEY CAN BE.

41:13YOU SHOWED ROUNDABOUTS.

41:14YOU SHOWED ROAD DIETS AND

41:17COMPLETE STREET PROJECTS.

41:18I REMEMBER WHEN THEY DID

41:19NEBRASKA AVENUE FROM MARTIN

41:20LUTHER KING SOUTH.

41:21WENT FROM TWO LANES NORTH AND

41:22SOUTH TO HOW IT IS TODAY.

41:25THE MORE RECENT COLUMBUS DRIVE,

41:27THAT SEGMENT THERE, IT'S

41:30BEAUTIFUL, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE

41:31THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR HIGH SPEED,

41:327th AVENUE WITH THE STREET

41:34PARKING, THOSE CARS, THEY CREATE

41:36A BARRIER.

41:36YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

41:37ONCE YOU GET ON 7th AVENUE,

41:39YOU GO THROUGH THAT BRICK

41:42SECTION AND YOU REALLY CAN'T --

41:44YOU CAN BUT YOU ARE ENCOURAGED

41:45NOT TO.

41:46THAT IS ANOTHER THING WITH THE

41:48CARS.

41:48THROUGH THIS MODERNIZATION AND

41:50URBAN RENEWAL, NOT ONLY DID WE

41:52PUSH FOR THE INTERSTATES, YOU

41:54KNOW, TO MOVE PEOPLE AND BUY

41:55CARS AND HAVE THAT INDEPENDENCE,

41:57WE PULLED UP A LOT OF BRICK

41:58STREETS IN TAMPA OR PAVED OVER

42:00THEM.

42:01THOSE BRICK STREETS ACTED AS

42:03NATURAL DETERRENTS TO HIGHER

42:04SPEEDS.

42:05YES, OVER TIME, CARS GOT FASTER

42:07AND WHATNOT, BUT LOOK AT THE

42:09HUNDRED PLUS YEARS.

42:10GOING BACK TO THE MAYOR GETTING

42:13KILLED IN 1909 TO NOW, THE DATA

42:14THERE OF WHY WE NEED TO INVEST

42:18IN PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE

42:20SAFETY.

42:20VERY INTERESTING NUMBER ABOUT

42:22CASS WITH THE 300,000 USERS ON

42:26BIKES.

42:26IS IT PEOPLE ON FOOT OR IS IT

42:28PEOPLE ON BIKE?

42:30>>ADAM PURCELL: TOTAL PEOPLE

42:31PASSING THE COUNTER.

42:32I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE ON

42:33BICYCLES OR ON FOOT.

42:34>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES IT

42:35COUNT CARS?

42:36>>ADAM PURCELL: IT DOES NOT

42:37COUNT CARS.

42:37IT IS DIRECTED AT THE TRAIL.

42:39>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAD PEOPLE

42:40TELL ME, YOU BUILD THE BIKE

42:42LANES AND I DON'T SEE BIKES.

42:44DON'T SEE PEOPLE USING IT.

42:46300,000 DOCUMENTED NUMBERS ARE

42:46VERY INTERESTING.

42:47ROUNDABOUTS.

42:49YOU HAVE ROUNDABOUTS ON 40th.

42:50YOU SHOWED THE ONE ON 34th.

42:54ON BOULEVARD NEAR ARMATURE

42:55WORKS, THAT ROUNDABOUT WASN'T

42:59THERE.

42:59THOSE CREATE -- MAKE PEOPLE SLOW

43:02DOWN.

43:02ON RIDGE, SOUTH OF COLUMBUS,

43:03THERE IS A ROUNDABOUT THERE.

43:06PEOPLE WOULD SPEED RIGHT THROUGH

43:07THE LIGHT TO CUT THROUGH THE

43:08NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE WERE ALL

43:09THESE SIGNS AND PEOPLE COMPLAIN

43:12ABOUT SPEEDING.

43:12ROUNDABOUTS HELP.

43:13AND THEN I'LL CLOSE WITH, YOU

43:17KNOW, HOW TECHNOLOGY IS WORKING

43:20WITH SELF-DRIVING AND AUTONOMOUS

43:21VEHICLES.

43:22I HAVE AN ELECTRIC CAR AND I

43:25STARTED USING THE FULL

43:27SELF-DRIVING.

43:28IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THE

43:29ACCURACY, HOW IT WILL STOP FOR

43:31PEDESTRIANS, KIDS ON BIKES.

43:32I'M TURNING ONTO DALE MABRY AND

43:34THREE KIDS ON BIKES YESTERDAY

43:35AND IT STOPS.

43:37IT YIELDS.

43:38MAYBE THE TECHNOLOGY WILL HELP

43:40BECAUSE IN THIS LAST CENTURY

43:41PLUS OF AUTOMOBILES, WE HAVE

43:43PLENTY OF HUMAN ERROR.

43:44YOU SHOWED LIKE RIGHT-TURN

43:46LANES, AND THAT HARDER TO READ

43:48BLUE SLIDE SHOWED THE

43:50OPPORTUNITY OF PEOPLE MAKING

43:51ERRORS, WHETHER IT'S POORLY LIT,

43:55WHETHER IT'S NO TURN SIGNAL, NO

43:56LEFT TURN, THE RIGHT TURN,

43:58PEOPLE DON'T YIELD AT THE RED

43:58LIGHT AND THEY TURN THE CORNER

44:00AND DON'T SEE SOMEBODY CROSSING

44:02THE STREET.

44:03THERE'S SO MUCH THAT CAN BE

44:05DONE.

44:06THE TECHNOLOGY OF THE

44:08SELF-DRIVING VEHICLES HELP.

44:09THE VISION ZERO PROJECTS, THESE

44:11GRANTS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM

44:13THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE SAFE

44:14STREETS, IN THAT, IT WAS $20

44:16MILLION WITH THE $5 MILLION

44:18LOCAL MATCH, AND THERE WERE MORE

44:20THAN 20 PROJECTS IN THERE.

44:21RIGHT?

44:22>>ADAM PURCELL: CORRECT.

44:23>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE ON

44:24THERE IS HABANA, RIGHT, FROM

44:25HILLSBOROUGH SOUTH?

44:26>>ADAM PURCELL: I WOULD HAVE TO

44:27LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS.

44:28YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE OF

44:30THE SECTIONS INCLUDED IN THE

44:31PROGRAM.

44:32>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I LIVE RIGHT

44:33THERE.

44:33HABANA IS TWO LANES NORTH AND

44:35SOUTH WITH A CENTER DIVIDER, NOT

44:36A CONCRETE MEDIAN, BUT JUST THE

44:39STRIPES IN THE ROAD.

44:40PEOPLE RACE THROUGH THERE ALL

44:41THE TIME.

44:42WHEN DO YOU A ROAD DIET LIKE WE

44:44WOULD DO, NEBRASKA AND ALL THESE

44:47OTHER STREETS, IT WILL HELP.

44:49WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THAT BARRIER,

44:51THE CONCRETE MEDIAN, THE

44:53CROSSWALKS, THE LIT CROSSWALKS,

44:55YOU KNOW, IT HELPS.

44:56LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT HELPS.

44:57THERE WAS A CHART I SAW WHEN I

44:58WAS IN THE MPO, NOW TPO, WHERE

45:01IF SOMEONE IS HIT AT 15 MILES AN

45:04HOUR, A PEDESTRIAN, THEIR

45:07SURVIVABILITY RATES ARE

45:07GENERALLY HIGH.

45:0830 MILES AN HOUR IT DROPS.

45:10LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT HELPS.

45:11THERE ARE SO MANY LITTLE EASY

45:14THINGS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO

45:15SPEND A FORTUNE THAT CAN MAKE A

45:19DIFFERENCE.

45:19PUTTING TOGETHER THIS ADVISORY

45:20COMMITTEE IS SMART.

45:21WE HAVE SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS

45:24LIKE WALK BIKE TAMPA AND OTHER

45:26ACTIVISTS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE

45:27TRANSPORTATION PROFESSIONALS

45:28THAT HAVE STUDIED THIS.

45:29AND GETTING THEIR OPINION AND

45:31INPUT AND THEIR WORK AND THEIR

45:33SERVICE TO IT WILL HELP US TO

45:36MAKE BETTER DECISIONS AS WE MOVE

45:38FORWARD.

45:38BUT IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

45:39YOU GO TO OTHER CITIES AND THEY

45:42ARE WALKABLE.

45:43HERE, WE'RE NOT.

45:44FLORIDA IS VERY DIFFERENT.

45:47CALIFORNIA IS VERY DIFFERENT,

45:47BUT WE HAVE TO INVEST IN THIS

45:49KIND OF TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW,

45:52NEW THINGS, ROAD DIETS, WHATEVER

45:54IT IS, LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT

45:55TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.

45:56OWNING A CAR IS EXPENSIVE.

45:58WE DON'T HAVE MASS TRANSIT.

46:00HERE WE HAVE THE STREETCAR.

46:01WE HAVE UBER AND LYFT, OTHER

46:03WAYS TO GET AROUND.

46:04WE HAVE THE BUS, BUT PEOPLE

46:05WALK.

46:05SO MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY

46:06HAVE TO GET TO THAT BUS STOP.

46:08I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE

46:09SAFE.

46:09THE GOAL IS WITH VISION ZERO,

46:11FOR US TO GET OFF THIS LIST.

46:168th IS BETTER THAN 2nd, BUT

46:18I WANT US TO BE OFF COMPLETELY.

46:19I WANT US TO BE A MODEL FOR THE

46:21REST OF THE COUNTRY HOW WE GO

46:22FROM THE WORST TO THE BEST.

46:23I THINK WE CAN GET THERE BECAUSE

46:25WE HAVE THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO

46:27DO SO.

46:29>>ADAM PURCELL: AGREE.

46:30>>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO

46:31MUCH.

46:31COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.

46:35>>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO

46:35PREFACE THIS BY SAYING WHEN I

46:37GOT ON COUNCIL IN 2019, I MADE A

46:39MOTION SUPPORTED BY COUNCIL TO

46:40CREATE A CITYWIDE BIKE PLAN AND

46:43CITYWIDE SIDEWALK PLAN AND THE

46:44MAYOR IGNORED IT AND

46:46INCORPORATED SOME PARTS OF THAT

46:48IN TAMPA MOVES WHICH TOOK FOUR

46:50TO FIVE YEARS TO DEVELOP.

46:51IT'S A SHAME BECAUSE WE LOST A

46:53LOT OF GROUND THAT WE SHOULD

46:54HAVE EARLY ON.

46:56JUST ONE RESPONSE TO PUBLIC

47:00TRANSIT, JUST THREE QUICK

47:02STORIES I CAN REMEMBER, ANTHONY

47:05GALDI, THE ARCHITECT IN

47:07BARCELONA WAS KILLED BY A

47:09STREETCAR.

47:09IN LONDON, ABOUT ONE PERSON A

47:10DAY KILLED BY THE TUBE.

47:13MOST OF THOSE ARE

47:14SELF-INFLICTED.

47:16BRIGHTLINE IS CALLED THE MURDER

47:18TRAIN BECAUSE IT KILLS SO MANY

47:20PEOPLE.

47:20MAYBE SOME OF THOSE ARE

47:22SELF-INFLICTED, TOO.

47:23MY POINT IS NOT TO BLAME MASS

47:25TRANSIT BUT JUST TO SAY IT'S AN

47:27INTEGRATED PROBLEM WHICH I THINK

47:28IS THE WAY YOU PRESENTED. THIS

47:31SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED IN

47:322019.

47:33I WISH THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

47:34WE COULD HAVE MADE MORE

47:35PROGRESS.

47:36COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST

47:37OR SECOND SLIDE?

47:41WHAT I'LL DO, IF IT'S OKAY WITH

47:43YOU, I'LL HIT POINTS THAT SOUND

47:44LIKE QUESTIONS.

47:45THEN WHEN I'M DONE, YOU CAN

47:46RESPOND TO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

47:48>>ADAM PURCELL: THE NATIONAL

47:49CRASH SAFETY?

47:50>>BILL CARLSON: WHEN I LOOK AT

47:52STATISTICS LIKE THIS, AND THIS

47:54IS A KIND OF STATISTIC THAT

47:54PEOPLE LIKE TO THROW AROUND ALL

47:57THE TIME.

47:57IF YOU GO TO TAMPA

48:00SCORECARD.COM, YOU'LL SEE FOR

48:01ECONOMIC DATA I ONLY USED TAMPA.

48:03I DIDN'T USE REGIONAL.

48:05MSA THROWS THINGS OFF.

48:07I KNOW YOU HAD SOME TAMPA DATA

48:10LATER.

48:10I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW THE

48:13TAMPA DATA AND DRILL IT DOWN

48:16EVEN MORE.

48:16WHAT OUR PR DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE

48:18DOING INSTEAD OF JUST TAKING

48:20PHOTO OPS OF THE MAYOR IS TRYING

48:22TO PUSH BACK ON SOME OF THESE,

48:24IF THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY TRUE.

48:26BUT IF YOU HAVE ONE CITY IN THE

48:28WHOLE TAMPA BAY REGION AND SIX

48:30COUNTY REGION, ONE CITY WHERE A

48:31BUNCH OF ACCIDENTS ARE

48:32HAPPENING, IT WOULD DRAG DOWN

48:34OUR NUMBERS.

48:35WE COULD BE THE WORST ONE IN THE

48:36REGION OR WE COULD BE THE BEST.

48:38WE DON'T KNOW BY LOOKING AT DATA

48:40LIKE THIS.

48:40LIKE I SAID, I'LL HIT A BUNCH OF

48:42THINGS.

48:42YOU CAN RESPOND TO WHATEVER YOU

48:43WANT.

48:43THE SECOND SLIDE, THE NEXT SLIDE

48:44AFTER THAT, PLEASE.

48:48>>ADAM PURCELL: THAT'S WHERE I

48:50JUMPED INTO THE ACTION PLAN.

48:51>>BILL CARLSON: THERE WAS

48:52ANOTHER SLIDE ON DATA.

48:54MAYBE IT WAS BEFORE THIS.

48:57EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER.

48:58YEAH, THE SAME THING HERE.

49:01THERE WAS A SPIKE IN CRIME

49:05AROUND 2020 AND ALSO AS COVID

49:10STARTED TO -- AS THE SHUTDOWNS

49:12FROM COVID STOPPED, THERE WAS A

49:15SPIKE IN TRAFFIC, LIKE EVEN

49:16BEFORE WHAT IT WAS LIKE ON

49:20COVID.

49:20THE OTHER THING IS CONTEXT.

49:22I WONDER WHAT THE CONTEXT IS

49:23BEFORE 2020?

49:24WHAT WAS THE NORMAL BEFORE

49:25COVID?

49:25WAS IT HIGHER AND WE HAVE COME

49:28DOWN?

49:29OR DOES 2020 REPRESENT THE SPIKE

49:31AND THEN WE WENT DOWN FROM

49:35THERE?

49:35I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT THE

49:37CONTEXT OF IT.

49:40I'M ON THE BOARD OF AN ART

49:42MUSEUM.

49:42WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS FROM

49:44COVID FORWARD, IT LOOKS

49:45DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU LOOK AT

49:46IT BEFORE.

49:47SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT

49:48THE WHOLE CONTEXT.

49:50THE OTHER THING IS THAT OUR

49:53COUNTRY AND OUR CITY ARE REALLY

49:55DIVIDED NOW PARTLY ALONG

49:57POLITICAL LINES.

49:57THE TERM VISION ZERO I HAVE NOT

50:00DONE A POLL, BUT I WOULD SAY

50:02THAT THE TERM VISION ZERO WHICH

50:04WAS VERY POSITIVE TEN YEARS AGO

50:07IS PROBABLY MAJORITY NEGATIVE

50:10NOW.

50:10IF I WERE YOU ALL, I WOULD THROW

50:13OUT THAT NAME.

50:14YOU COULD MENTION IT WHEN YOU'RE

50:16IN FRONT OF PEDESTRIAN

50:18ENTHUSIASTS, BUT I THINK IT'S

50:19BETTER TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING

50:21ELSE, LIKE SAFE MOBILITY OR

50:22SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

50:24BECAUSE VISION ZERO SOUNDS --

50:27IT'S BEEN POLITICIZED.

50:28AND SOME OF THE OTHER TERMS

50:30AROUND THIS HAVE BEEN

50:31POLITICIZED, TOO.

50:32WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS, BUT

50:33WHEN THOSE TERMS ARE USED, IT IS

50:35A LIGHTNING ROD THAT CAUSES

50:38CONCERN.

50:39ANOTHER THING -- AND AS I SAID,

50:40I'M IN FAVOR OF BIKE SAFETY,

50:44PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, MOBILITY

50:48ALTERNATES, BUT I'M GOING TO

50:49MENTION SOME OF THE THINGS THAT

50:50MY CONSTITUENTS ARE CONCERNED

50:51ABOUT.

50:52THEY SEE US SPENDING 2 MILLION,

50:535 MILLION, WHATEVER, AND THEY

50:55WONDER WHY CAN'T YOU FIX THE

50:57POTHOLES?

50:58I LIVE JUST OFF MacDILL AND

51:00A LOT OF THE ROADS IN SOUTH

51:02TAMPA HAVE TERRIBLE POTHOLES.

51:06PROSPECT, SUNSET, NEW SUBURB

51:08BEAUTIFUL, ONE OF THE WORST

51:10STREETS I'VE EVER DRIVEN

51:11ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

51:12WHEN YOU HIT POTHOLES, EVEN IF

51:14YOU ARE GOING BELOW THE SPEED

51:15LIMIT, IT KNOCKS YOUR CAR OFF IN

51:18A CERTAIN DIRECTION AND PUTS

51:19PEDESTRIANS AT RISK.

51:21IT PUTS BICYCLISTS AT RISKS.

51:23FOLKS COULD ARGUE, WHY DON'T YOU

51:24FIX THE POTHOLES BEFORE YOU DO

51:25THESE THINGS.

51:26THE OTHER THING, WHAT IS THE

51:28HAZARD CREATED BY POTHOLES THAT

51:30SHOULD BE LOOKED AT?

51:32THE OTHER THING IS THAT DESPITE

51:35THE PEOPLE KILLED, WE HAD THREE

51:36DEATHS ALMOST IN A ROW ON

51:38BAYSHORE A FEW YEARS AGO.

51:40BAYSHORE ARGUABLY IS ONE OF THE

51:41BIGGEST INVESTMENTS IN OUR

51:43REGION.

51:43ONE OF THE DEATHS WAS THE SON OF

51:45A FRIEND OF MINE, HAL FLOWERS

51:47JUNIOR WHO WAS RIDING IN THE

51:49PAINTED BIKE LANE AND SOMEBODY

51:50HIT HIM.

51:52AS A RESULT, I WON'T RIDE ON

51:54BAYSHORE.

51:54I DON'T ALLOW MY KIDS TO RIDE ON

51:57BAYSHORE.

51:57I LIVE NEXT TO ONE OF THE BEST

51:59PLACES TO RIDE BICYCLES IN THE

52:01AREA, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S

52:03SAFE.

52:03IF YOU ARE RIDING BICYCLES ON

52:05THE SIDEWALK, THE PEDESTRIANS

52:06DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T

52:07THINK IT IS SAFE.

52:09SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH

52:11BETTER SOLUTIONS FOR THAT.

52:12I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS BUT THAT'S

52:13LONGER TERM THAN RIGHT NOW.

52:14THE OTHER THING IS, ANOTHER ONE

52:16OF THE DEATHS WAS A MOTHER

52:19PUSHING A STROLLER ACROSS THE

52:21MEDIAN AND THEN DOWN ACROSS THE

52:23ROAD, AND IT WAS CAUSED -- THE

52:28COURT SAID IT WAS CAUSED BY KIDS

52:29SPEEDING AND RACING EACH OTHER,

52:32BUT THE -- SINCE THEN, I DRIVE

52:34ON BAYSHORE EVERY DAY.

52:35SINCE THEN, I'VE SEEN ONCE A

52:37WEEK, ONCE A MONTH, I'VE SEEN

52:39PEOPLE PUSHING THEIR STROLLERS

52:41OVER THE GRASSY MEDIAN AND INTO

52:43THE ROAD BECAUSE EVEN IF THE

52:45FLASHING -- WE PUT IN MORE

52:48FLASHING LIGHTS, EVEN IF THEY

52:49ARE A HUNDRED METERS AWAY, THEY

52:51DON'T WANT TO WALK THAT FAR.

52:53THEY WANT TO WALK ACROSS THERE.

52:54THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST STREETS

52:56IN THE CITY BUT WE HAVE A

52:57CONTINUED HAZARD WHERE THE EXACT

52:59SAME THINGS THAT CAUSED TWO

53:01DEATHS ARE STILL HAPPENING WHERE

53:03PEOPLE ARE STILL SPEEDING ON

53:06BAYSHORE.

53:06SOMETIMES THEY ARE RACING ON

53:08BAYSHORE.

53:08STILL AN UNPROTECTED BIKE LANE

53:10AND PEOPLE ARE STILL PUSHING

53:12THEIR STROLLERS ACROSS THE

53:13MEDIAN.

53:14ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENS IS

53:16THAT THE TRAFFIC JAMS WE TALKED

53:18ABOUT, THE ONES AROUND THE

53:19STADIUM AND AROUND DOWNTOWN, BUT

53:21PEOPLE GET STUCK IN TRAFFIC

53:23JAMS, ESPECIALLY FROM ALL THE

53:24CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, WHICH

53:25THEY THINK IS HAPHAZARD AND NOT

53:27COORDINATED.

53:28AND WHEN THEY GET PAST THE

53:29CONSTRUCTION, THEY GO REALLY

53:30FAST AFTER THAT, BECAUSE THEY

53:32ARE EITHER BEHIND OR THEY FEEL

53:33LIKE THEY ARE BEHIND IN TIME,

53:35AND THAT CREATES A HAZARD.

53:37IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO

53:38FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF

53:39ACCIDENTS HAPPEN BECAUSE OF

53:41TRAFFIC JAMS AND MAYBE HOW TO

53:43ALLEVIATE THOSE BY LETTING

53:45PEOPLE GO STEADY, SLOW PACE,

53:47INSTEAD OF STOPPING AND SPEEDING

53:49UP AFTERWARDS.

53:53ON MY STREET, YOU TALKED ABOUT

53:55SIDEWALKS.

53:55THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT,

53:57THREE OR FOUR HUNDRED, WAS IT,

53:59MILES OF SIDEWALKS THAT WE NEED

54:01TO BUILD?

54:02>>ADAM PURCELL: 1300 MILES OF

54:03SIDEWALK BUILD, 100 MILES OF

54:05HIGH PRIORITY SIDEWALK.

54:071400 MILES OF HIGH PRIORITY

54:10SIDEWALK.

54:10>>BILL CARLSON: MY STREET IS A

54:11GOOD EXAMPLE.

54:12I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, A

54:13PERSON IN A WHEELCHAIR PUSHED BY

54:14HIS NURSE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE

54:18ROAD AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY

54:19DANGEROUS.

54:20AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH KIDS

54:23AND PRAMS AND ALL KINDS OF

54:25STUFF.

54:25THAT IS REPLICATED THROUGHOUT

54:26THE CITY AND PEOPLE ARE RACING

54:28DOWN THESE KINDS OF ROADS.

54:33SIDEWALKS ARE A DISABILITY

54:34ISSUE.

54:34WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE

54:36RIGHT KINDS OF SIDEWALKS.

54:36ALSO IF THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS,

54:38THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING DOWN THE

54:39CENTER OF THE ROAD.

54:41MacDILL IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

54:43I SEE PEOPLE CROSSING --

54:45MacDILL IS A PRETTY FAST

54:46ROAD MOST OF THE TIME.

54:48I SEE PEOPLE CROSSING ALL THE

54:49TIME.

54:50PEOPLE CROSSING WHERE THEY

54:51SHOULDN'T ON DALE MABRY AND

54:52CROSSING WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T ON

54:54BAYSHORE.

54:54THAT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THE

54:55CITY.

54:56ONE OF THE THINGS, YEARS AGO, DO

54:59TRAFFIC PATTERNS BASED ON WHERE

55:00PEOPLE ARE GOING, NOT JUST WHERE

55:03CARS ARE GOING, BECAUSE THERE

55:05SEEM TO BE PATTERNS OF VOLUMES

55:06OF PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T WANT TO

55:08FOLLOW THE PATTERNS OF THE

55:09SIDEWALKS THAT -- OR THE

55:11CROSSWALKS THAT WE SET UP.

55:13ALSO, A FAIR NUMBER OF PEOPLE

55:17DON'T LIKE BICYCLES AND DON'T

55:19LIKE HEAVY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC,

55:21ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OVER A CERTAIN

55:22AGE WHERE THEIR EYESIGHT AND

55:25REFLEXES ARE SLOWER, NOT BECAUSE

55:26THEY DON'T LIKE PEOPLE WALKING

55:27OR RIDING BICYCLES, BUT THEY SEE

55:29THEM AS A HAZARD.

55:30THEY DON'T WANT TO HIT THEM.

55:32ALSO THERE ARE FOLKS -- I TALKED

55:34TO CHRISTINA ACOSTA AND OTHERS

55:35IN THE PAST -- FOLKS WHO AREN'T

55:38FOLLOWING RULES.

55:39I REGULARLY SEE PEOPLE CROSS

55:41MULTIPLE LANES OF DALE MABRY ON

55:42A BICYCLE, NOT ON A SIDEWALK.

55:44SUPPOSED TO ACT LIKE A CAR OR

55:45SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE SIDEWALK

55:46AND THE PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING

55:49EITHER.

55:49WHAT SUCCESSFUL CITIES DO AS

55:50PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS, AND

55:52I THINK WE NEED A PUBLIC

55:54EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, WE SEE

55:55PEOPLE THIS MORNING, EARLY, I

55:57WAS DRIVING TO GO TO AN EVENT,

56:00AND THE -- THERE WAS A TURN LANE

56:02AND THE GUY, HE DIDN'T HAVE THE

56:04WHITE SIGN.

56:06HE HAD THE HAND, AND HE STILL

56:08CROSSED NOT REALIZING, NOT EVEN

56:10LOOKING TO SEE THAT PEOPLE WERE

56:11TURNING AND HE ALMOST GOT HIT

56:12BECAUSE THERE WASN'T VERY MUCH

56:14LIGHT OUT.

56:15SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE

56:16KNOW, PEDESTRIANS ALSO HAVE TO

56:17FOLLOW RULES, BICYCLISTS HAVE TO

56:21FOLLOW RULES, ESPECIALLY WHEN

56:22THERE'S DIM LIGHT.

56:24PEOPLE COULD GET HIT.

56:27TWO OTHER THINGS I MENTIONED, IN

56:29TERMS OF THE COMMITTEE, I WISH

56:31WE COULD CALL IT SOMETHING LIKE

56:33A SAFE MOBILITY COMMITTEE

56:34INSTEAD OF JUST BICYCLE AND

56:39PEDESTRIAN, BECAUSE ONE THING,

56:41THE OTHER PIECE THAT BICYCLE AND

56:43PEDESTRIAN IS MISSING IS PEOPLE

56:45DRIVING CARS.

56:46AND THERE ARE A FAIR NUMBER OF

56:47PEOPLE -- LOOK AT THE FEEDBACK

56:49WE'RE GETTING ON EL PRADO.

56:51PART OF THAT IS THE CITY DIDN'T

56:54DO ENOUGH COMMUNICATION UP

56:56FRONT.

56:56PART OF IT IS PEOPLE LOOK AT THE

56:59THINGS AS HAZARD AND

57:00INCONVENIENCES.

57:01WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE

57:03OVERALL ECOSYSTEM OF WHAT'S

57:04GOING ON AND MAKE SURE WE'RE

57:05GETTING FEEDBACK.

57:06I RECOMMEND IF WE CREATE A

57:08COMMITTEE, WE SHOULD HAVE LIKE

57:09MAYBE FOUR SEATS FOR

57:11NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, AND THEY

57:12COULD ROTATE OUT.

57:13BUT WE NEED ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE

57:14BESIDES JUST THE BIKE AND

57:16PEDESTRIAN ADVOCATES.

57:17BECAUSE IF WE'RE JUST GOING

57:21THROUGH BUILDING COMPLETE

57:22STREETS, VISION ZERO ALL OVER

57:23THE PLACE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

57:26THE SAME KIND OF REACTION WE

57:27HAVE ON EL PRADO.

57:30IT NEEDS TO BE COORDINATED AND

57:32DEEP COMMUNICATION.

57:32WE NEED IT IN EAST-WEST ROUTE

57:36FOR BICYCLISTS IN SOUTH TAMPA,

57:38BUT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF

57:41PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BEFORE THAT

57:42PROJECT WAS BUILT, WE'RE SEEING

57:45ALL KINDS OF HEADACHES RIGHT

57:46NOW.

57:46THANK YOU.

57:50>>ADAM PURCELL: COUNCILMAN

57:51CARLSON, I AGREE.

57:54YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF

57:55OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS A

57:55DEPARTMENT TO INTRODUCE

57:58INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CAN

58:00FACILITATE BEHAVIOR.

58:01IT'S LIKE THE IDEA OF URBAN

58:04DESIGN, FRONT PORCH COMMUNITY,

58:05THAT A FRONT PORCH OFFERS AN

58:07OPPORTUNITY FOR SOCIALIZATION.

58:09AND IF THERE'S NO FRONT PORCH,

58:10THEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR

58:12SOCIALIZATION GOES AWAY.

58:12I THINK THE SAME THING WITH THE

58:14INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG OUR ROADS.

58:16IF IT'S NOT THERE, NO ONE IS

58:17GOING TO RIDE IN A BIKE LANE OR

58:19WALK ON A SIDEWALK BECAUSE IT'S

58:20NOT AVAILABLE.

58:20IF WE PUT IT IN, THEN THEY MAY

58:24RIDE IN THE BIKE LANE OR WALK ON

58:25THE SIDEWALK.

58:26THEY MAY WALK DOWN THE MIDDLE OF

58:27THE ROAD.

58:28I THINK FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE

58:31PERSPECTIVE, ENGINEERING

58:31PERSPECTIVE, I AGREE THAT WE CAN

58:34FACILITATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR

58:36SPECIFIC BEHAVIOR.

58:37AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT

58:39THE SAFE SYSTEMS APPROACH,

58:41GETTING THE SAFE PEOPLE, SAFE

58:43CARS, SAFE STREETS, WE LOOK AT

58:475E.

58:48ENGINEERING, ENCOURAGEMENT,

58:50ENFORCEMENT, EDUCATION, AND

58:50EVALUATION.

58:53WE LOOK AT FIVE Es.

58:55WE TRY TO COME IN FROM A WIDER

58:57PERSPECTIVE.

58:57I AGREE THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A

59:01LICENSING FOR AUTOMOBILE

59:02DRIVERS.

59:02WILL THERE BE A LICENSING FOR

59:04E-BIKE DRIVERS THAT REQUIRES A

59:05MINIMUM TEST OR A MINIMUM LEVEL

59:07OF KNOWLEDGE ON THE RULES OF THE

59:09ROAD TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE AN

59:10E-BIKE ON THE SYSTEM?

59:11I THINK THAT IS AT THE FLORIDA

59:13LEGISLATURE LEVEL RIGHT NOW.

59:14>>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ADD TWO

59:15QUICK THINGS?

59:16IN PUBLIC EDUCATION, I DON'T

59:17KNOW IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THE

59:20AUSTRALIAN TV SHOW, WIGGLES.

59:22DISNEY OWNED IT A WHILE.

59:23WHEN MY KIDS WERE LITTLE, ONE OF

59:25THE SONGS THEY HAD, CHARACTER

59:28WOULD WALK UP AND SAY, STOP AT

59:29THE ROAD, LOOK BOTH WAYS, LOOK

59:31BOTH WAYS AGAIN, CROSS THE ROAD

59:33WITH A FRIEND.

59:35MY KIDS HAVE THAT MEMORIZED

59:37BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO -- AND

59:40SO THERE ARE FUN WAYS TO

59:43COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC.

59:45MY CRITICISM ABOUT COMMUNICATION

59:46IS MOSTLY ABOUT THE

59:48COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT WHICH

59:49IS CENTERED AROUND POLITICS

59:50RATHER THAN A DIALOGUE WITH THE

59:52COMMUNITY.

59:53WE SEE ON PROJECTS LIKE SOUTH

59:58HOWARD AND THE PAVING OF ROADS

1:00:00AND TO SOME EXTENT EL PRADO,

1:00:03IT'S ONE DIRECTIONAL.

1:00:04HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

1:00:05HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE.

1:00:07THAT'S NOT COMING FROM YOU ALL.

1:00:08IT'S COMING FROM THE

1:00:09ADMINISTRATION THAT DOESN'T CARE

1:00:10WHAT THE PUBLIC SAYS.

1:00:11BUT WE NEED SOMEHOW TO,

1:00:14ESPECIALLY AS THIS MAYOR IS A

1:00:15LAME DUCK, WE NEED TO START

1:00:17LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC AND

1:00:18REALLY WORKING ON PLANS THAT

1:00:19HAVE THE PUBLIC IN MIND BECAUSE

1:00:21THE PUBLIC IS VERY, VERY UPSET,

1:00:24ESPECIALLY ABOUT EL PRADO AS AN

1:00:27EXAMPLE.

1:00:27>>BRANDON CAMPBELL: GOOD

1:00:28MORNING, COUNCIL.

1:00:29BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY

1:00:30DIRECTOR.

1:00:30THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOGNITION

1:00:32OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT

1:00:33WE'RE UP AGAINST.

1:00:34I DID WANT TO PROVIDE JUST A

1:00:35LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.

1:00:38THE FIRST TWO THINGS THAT YOU

1:00:39ASKED ABOUT, FIRST, WHICH WAS

1:00:44THE CHART THAT SHOWS US AS

1:00:49RANKED AT NUMBER 8 AND LOOKS AT

1:00:54METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA

1:00:54INSTEAD OF TAMPA MORE

1:00:56GRANULARLY.

1:00:56I SHARE THE CONCERN.

1:00:57THIS IS ACTUALLY A REPORT CALLED

1:01:00"DANGEROUS BY DESIGN."

1:01:01EVERY TIME IT COMES OUT, IT GETS

1:01:03A LOT OF ATTENTION.

1:01:04SO WE WANT TO SPEAK TO IT AND

1:01:06NOT IGNORE WHAT IT'S SAYING.

1:01:07AND THE DATA THAT ACTUALLY

1:01:10POPULATES THEIR REPORT IS NOT

1:01:14ENTIRELY AVAILABLE TO US.

1:01:16THIS HELPS TO BRING SOME CONTEXT

1:01:17TO WHERE WE ARE FROM A HIGHER

1:01:19LEVEL PERSPECTIVE.

1:01:20BUT TOTALLY APPRECIATE IT AND

1:01:22UNDERSTAND.

1:01:23WE DO NEED TO LOOK DIRECTLY AT

1:01:26THE THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR

1:01:28CONTROL AS A DEPARTMENT.

1:01:30LIKEWISE, YOU ASKED ABOUT FATAL

1:01:32AND SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES IN

1:01:34THE CONTEXT OF THE COVID SPIKE,

1:01:36AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

1:01:39NATIONWIDE, THOSE NUMBERS WENT

1:01:40WAY UP IN 2020, 2021, AND HAVE

1:01:45BEGUN TO APPROACH THOSE

1:01:49PRE-COVID SPIKE NUMBERS.

1:01:50I ALWAYS WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS

1:01:51ABOUT CLAIMING TOO MUCH CREDIT

1:01:53FOR DECLINING NUMBERS OR

1:01:55ACCEPTING TOO MUCH BLAME FOR

1:01:57INCREASING NUMBERS.

1:01:57THEY DO HELP US, AGAIN, WITH

1:01:59SOME CONTEXT AND LOOKING AT

1:02:01TRENDS AND LOOKING AT WHERE WE

1:02:03CAN ACTUALLY LEVERAGE OUR

1:02:05RESOURCES TO PUT THEM TO BEST

1:02:07USE.

1:02:07IT'S HELPFUL REALLY TO

1:02:09UNDERSTAND THE BROADER PICTURE.

1:02:11YOU ASKED ABOUT TAILORING OUR

1:02:16ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WHETHER

1:02:19IT'S A BPAC, PER SE, OR

1:02:22SOMETHING MORE BROADLY SPEAKING,

1:02:23SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO

1:02:24SUGGEST THAT WE CONSIDER AS A

1:02:27STAFF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT

1:02:31INDIVIDUAL SEGMENTS, LET'S SAY

1:02:32MAYBE SOME OF THOSE THAT WERE

1:02:34NOT ADDRESSED BY THAT LARGER

1:02:36EFFORT OF THE 2022 AND 2023 SAFE

1:02:38STREETS FOR ALL GRANTS PROJECTS,

1:02:41THERE IS A METHODOLOGY, A ROAD

1:02:44SAFETY AUDIT METHODOLOGY THAT

1:02:45GENERALLY BRINGS IN STAKEHOLDERS

1:02:48OF VARIOUS PERSPECTIVE.

1:02:49AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I

1:02:52INTEND TO LOOK AT AS LIKE THE

1:02:54NEXT STEP BEYOND THOSE SORT OF

1:02:56-- I'LL CALL IT LIKE THE SHOTGUN

1:02:59APPROACH, WHERE WE HAVE ALL OF

1:03:00OUR HIGH INJURY NETWORK

1:03:01PROJECTS, WE'RE PUTTING SOME

1:03:04FASTER PROJECTS IN PLACE TO TRY

1:03:06TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE, BUT

1:03:07THEN THERE IS A MORE SURGICAL

1:03:09APPROACH THAT WE MIGHT TAKE A

1:03:12SECOND LOOK LATER AT.

1:03:14>>BILL CARLSON: YOU MENTIONED IN

1:03:15SLIDE ONE THE DATA.

1:03:17THE DATA IS NOT ACCESSIBLE.

1:03:19>>BRANDON CAMPBELL: WE DON'T GET

1:03:20THE FULL SET OF DATA FROM THAT

1:03:22DANGEROUS BY DESIGN REPORT.

1:03:24>>BILL CARLSON: IS IT POSSIBLE

1:03:26TO BUY IT OR POSSIBLE TO CONTACT

1:03:31THE --

1:03:32>>ADAM PURCELL: THIS GRAPH

1:03:33REPRESENTS THE NUMBER OF

1:03:34PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES PER

1:03:36HUNDRED THOUSAND POPULATION.

1:03:39THE TAMPA, CLEARWATER, ST. PETE

1:03:41MSA IS AT ABOUT 3.74 DEATHS PER

1:03:47100,000 FOR PEDESTRIAN RELATED.

1:03:49>>BILL CARLSON: ACS OR THE API

1:03:54CRIME STATISTICS.

1:03:54DRILL DOWN AND LOOK AT TAMPA

1:03:56VERSUS ST. PETE, VERSUS

1:03:58CLEARWATER.

1:03:58>> WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK.

1:03:59>>BILL CARLSON: SAME THING WITH

1:04:00MIAMI.

1:04:01THAT'S WHAT THE TAMPA SCORECARD

1:04:03IS, IF YOU USE MSA, THE ECONOMIC

1:04:05DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE USE THE MSA,

1:04:07WHICH MAKES TAMPA LOOK HIGHER

1:04:08THAN IT IS BECAUSE OF ST. PETE'S

1:04:10PERFORMANCE.

1:04:11IN THIS CASE, WE COULD BE BETTER

1:04:13OR WORSE DEPENDING ON WHAT'S

1:04:14HAPPENING IN OTHER CITIES.

1:04:15THERE MIGHT BE A CITY WHERE

1:04:16THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF

1:04:18ACCIDENTS AND WE'RE GETTING

1:04:20BLAMED FOR IT.

1:04:22>>BRANDON CAMPBELL: YEAH,

1:04:23CERTAINLY NUANCE TO THE DATA NOT

1:04:24CAPTURED BY THE GRAPHIC.

1:04:25THE GRAPHIC I THINK IS HELPFUL

1:04:27IN LOOKING AT, AS ADAM

1:04:29MENTIONED, SOME OF THE TRENDS WE

1:04:30SEE ON A NATIONAL LEVEL ARE

1:04:31DRIVEN BY WHEN THAT PARTICULAR

1:04:33AREA WAS DEVELOPED IN HISTORY.

1:04:36YOU DON'T SEE OUR NORTHEAST

1:04:39CITIES THAT PRIORITIZE SIDEWALKS

1:04:40FROM THE BEGINNING OF THEIR

1:04:45BUILD-OUT AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF

1:04:46OUR SOUTHERN CITIES THAT DID

1:04:47NOT.

1:04:48>>BILL CARLSON: IT SAYS RIGHT

1:04:49THERE THAT SOME CITY IS NUMBER

1:04:51TEN, THE ONE UP --

1:04:55>>BRANDON CAMPBELL: I'M NOT SURE

1:04:58WHAT NUMBER 10 REFERENCES.

1:04:59IT'S NOT LISTED OUT.

1:05:00NOT BROKEN OUT.

1:05:02>>BILL CARLSON: AND CITIES OUT

1:05:04WEST.

1:05:04I DON'T LIKE THE NORTH-SOUTH

1:05:06COMPARISON.

1:05:06NEW MEXICO IS NUMBER ONE AND

1:05:09ARIZONA IS NUMBER THREE.

1:05:14I THINK IT'S MORE ACCURATE TO

1:05:15SAY WHAT YOU SAID IN THE

1:05:17BEGINNING WHICH IS CITIES THAT

1:05:18WERE DEVELOPED LATER IN A

1:05:21SUBURBAN, WITH A SUBURBAN

1:05:23MINDSET MIGHT HAVE LESS.

1:05:25BUT THERE'S NOTHING BECAUSE OF

1:05:27NORTH-SOUTH, IT WAS JUST ABOUT

1:05:28THE TIME THEY WERE BUILT.

1:05:30>>BRANDON CAMPBELL: SURE.

1:05:31RIGHT.

1:05:31>>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

1:05:32COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

1:05:34DON'T FORGET TO PUT YOUR LIGHT

1:05:37ON.

1:05:37PUT ON YOUR MICROPHONE.

1:05:42>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY

1:05:42THIS.

1:05:43FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR

1:05:47PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR

1:05:47WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND GET

1:05:49ACCOMPLISHED.

1:05:49BUT WE'RE REALLY NOT COMPARING

1:05:51OURSELVES TO OURSELVES.

1:05:53YOU'RE COMPARING YOURSELVES TO

1:05:54OTHER CITIES, AM I CORRECT?

1:05:57>>ADAM PURCELL: I THINK WE DO A

1:05:58BIT OF BOTH, BUT, YEAH.

1:06:01>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIFESTYLES.

1:06:02I THINK LIFESTYLES CREATE A LOT

1:06:03OF OUR PROBLEMS.

1:06:04MAY DISAGREE OR AGREE.

1:06:06BUT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS

1:06:06DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE WHEN I WAS

1:06:08GROWING UP.

1:06:09FIRST OF ALL, I HAD A POPULATION

1:06:10OF MAYBE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

1:06:14YOU HAD VERY LITTLE CARS AND A

1:06:18LOT MORE BIKES.

1:06:19AND YOU HAD A STREETCAR AND YOU

1:06:21HAD A BUS TRANSIT SYSTEM ONLY IN

1:06:25THE CITY OF TAMPA.

1:06:28THREE FACTORS HAVE COME APART.

1:06:30A, THE STREETCAR, VERY MINIMAL.

1:06:33USED TO BE 54 MILES.

1:06:34NOW THREE OR FOUR MILES.

1:06:37YOU HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT DROVE

1:06:40CARS VERY SLOWLY BECAUSE THEY

1:06:41DIDN'T GO FAST.

1:06:42THEY WERE CLUMSY AND BIG.

1:06:44DIDN'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING.

1:06:46THE WINDOWS WERE DOWN.

1:06:47YOU COULD HEAR SOUND.

1:06:49YOU COULD HEAR VOICES.

1:06:50YOU COULD HEAR EVERYTHING.

1:06:51THE BIKES WERE NOT E-BIKES.

1:06:54THEY DIDN'T GO 40 AND 50 MILES

1:06:55AN HOUR.

1:06:56YOU HAD TO PEDAL THEM YOURSELF.

1:07:01MOST BIKES NOW YOU CAN PEDAL OR

1:07:03MOVE BY BATTERY OR ELECTRIC

1:07:05POWER SOMEHOW.

1:07:06YOU HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES IN THE

1:07:08LIFESTYLE THAT WE'RE COMPARING

1:07:11FROM NOW TO WHEN IT WAS BEFORE.

1:07:17YOU HAVE A CROSS HERE THAT YOU

1:07:18HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, POPULATION,

1:07:21HOW MANY CARS ON THE ROAD, HOW

1:07:27MANY BIKES, COLUMBIA, WESTERN

1:07:29FLYER, OR HOME MADE.

1:07:30A LOT OF THEM ARE HOME MADE.

1:07:33ALL THESE THINGS HAVE TO COME

1:07:35ABOUT TO SAY WHAT THE REAL FACTS

1:07:38ARE.

1:07:38WHEN YOU PUT 400 FEET, COLUMBUS

1:07:41DRIVE, IF I RECALL SOMETHING

1:07:42LIKE THAT THAT IS A TOTAL OF ONE

1:07:44FOOTBALL FIELD AND 20 YARDS.

1:07:52THAT IS A TOTAL OF WHAT WE'RE

1:07:53TALKING ABOUT.

1:07:53ALL THESE THINGS TO ME ARE

1:07:55CALCULATED AS TO THE PERIOD IN

1:07:56LIFE IN WHICH YOU LIVE.

1:08:02AN AIRPLANE WOULD TAKE HOURS AND

1:08:04HOURS TO GO FOUR OR FIVE HUNDRED

1:08:06MILES.

1:08:06NOW IT TAKES ONE HOUR.

1:08:09IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THE PEOPLE

1:08:11THAT DRIVE CARS THAT NOW AIR

1:08:19CONDITIONED.

1:08:19NOT HEAR ONE SOUND, TAKE IT TO A

1:08:22DEALER BECAUSE AIR IS LEAKING

1:08:25SOMEWHERE.

1:08:25THEY CAN'T HEAR, OUTSIDE CAN'T

1:08:26HEAR THEM.

1:08:27YOU HAVE A COMPLICATED PROBLEM

1:08:30CREATED BY TECHNOLOGY.

1:08:31HUMAN DEMAND TO GET SOMEWHERE

1:08:34FASTER THAN BEFORE.

1:08:35THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE.

1:08:36YOU HAVE THE INTERSTATE WHERE

1:08:38THEY ARE DRIVING AT WHATEVER

1:08:39SPEED IT IS OR HIGHER.

1:08:41SO WHEN YOU GET DOWN, YOU THINK

1:08:44YOU ARE STILL DRIVING ON THE

1:08:45INTERSTATE BECAUSE YOU SEE CARS

1:08:46ALL THE WAY AROUND YOU.

1:08:48YOUR MIND, BODY AND CAR NOT ALL

1:08:52-- I'M THINKING OUT LOUD.

1:08:53YOU HAVE A LOT MORE THINGS TO

1:08:55THINK ABOUT THAN JUST SAYING,

1:08:58HEY, WE'LL PUT A BIKE LANE.

1:09:00I WAS TOLD, I THINK COUNCIL

1:09:03MEMBER CARLSON MENTIONED EL

1:09:07PRADO.

1:09:07WE'RE GOING TO STRIPE IT.

1:09:09IF IT DIDN'T WORK, UNSTRIPE IT.

1:09:11THE OTHER DAY I WAS WITH MY

1:09:13DAUGHTER.

1:09:13SHE SAID LET'S TAKE A DRIVE DOWN

1:09:16WESTSHORE BOULEVARD TO EL PRADO.

1:09:18WESTSHORE TO EL PRADO WE TOOK

1:09:20IT.

1:09:21THEN I STARTED SEEING ON THE

1:09:23EAST-WEST AND THEN THE NORTH AND

1:09:24SOUTH WHERE THEY INTERSECT, THEY

1:09:29HAVE A BOLLARD, SIZE OF EIGHT

1:09:35FEET, ABOUT SIX, SEVEN INCHES.

1:09:38THE ONES GOING EAST AND WEST CAN

1:09:40ONLY TRAVEL IN ONE LANE.

1:09:42AM I CORRECT SO FAR?

1:09:43>> CORRECT.

1:09:44>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO

1:09:45MAKE SURE I SAW IT.

1:09:46MY HAIR IS NOT ALL HERE.

1:09:49SO WHEN YOU'RE GOING THAT WAY, I

1:09:51LOOKED AROUND, I WONDER HOW MANY

1:09:55ACCIDENTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN

1:09:56HERE, ONE CAR, ONE AUTOMOBILE

1:09:58HITS THE SIDE OF THAT CURB THAT

1:10:00IS REALLY A CURB WITH A LOT OF

1:10:02CONCRETE ON IT, WHAT'S GOING TO

1:10:04HAPPEN IF THE CAR IS GOING 35 OR

1:10:0740 MILES AN HOUR?

1:10:08THAT COULD HAPPEN.

1:10:10ALL YOU NEED IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS

1:10:13THE STEREO ON LISTENING TO

1:10:15WHATEVER MUSIC.

1:10:16MAY EVEN HAVE A TV IN THE CAR

1:10:18WATCHING THE NEWS.

1:10:19I DON'T KNOW.

1:10:19TOO MUCH TECHNOLOGY TODAY

1:10:20CREATES A LOT OF PROBLEMS WHEN

1:10:22YOU'RE DRIVING A CAR.

1:10:24BUT THAT'S HOW LIFE IS.

1:10:27I UNDERSTAND, RANKED 8.

1:10:28SHOULD HAVE MAYBE DONE MUCH

1:10:31BETTER.

1:10:31BUT ALL IN ALL, WITH ALL THE

1:10:33IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE, THE

1:10:35SIDEWALK NEXT TO US, PUT A

1:10:37CAMERA THERE, TELL ME HOW MANY

1:10:40BIKES RUN THROUGH THERE?

1:10:43NOT TOO MANY.

1:10:45HOW MANY CARS GO THROUGH THERE?

1:10:47A LOT.

1:10:49SO THE BICYCLE IS OUTNUMBERED BY

1:10:50A HUNDRED TO ONE THERE.

1:10:52THAT MEANS THEY HAVE A HUNDRED

1:10:53CHANCES OF GETTING HIT.

1:10:56SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IT IS

1:10:58WHAT IT IS AND IN LIFE YOU GOT

1:11:00TO PROTECT YOURSELF.

1:11:01YOU GOT TO THINK WHERE YOU'RE

1:11:02GOING, HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET

1:11:04THERE.

1:11:04SO LEAVE EARLY IF YOU THINK YOU

1:11:05GOT TO GET THERE ON TIME.

1:11:08DON'T LEAVE 15 MINUTES WHEN YOU

1:11:09HAVE 12 OR 20 MILES BECAUSE YOU

1:11:11AIN'T GOING TO MAKE IT, NO

1:11:13MATTER A BICYCLE, CAR, ELECTRIC

1:11:16CAR.

1:11:16THE OTHER DAY LEAVING HERE,

1:11:18GOING EAST -- EXCUSE ME, WEST ON

1:11:23THE STREET, KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

1:11:26AS I'M APPROACHING MacDILL

1:11:29AVENUE, I LOOKED UP AND COULDN'T

1:11:30BELIEVE WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF ME.

1:11:32IT LOOKED LIKE A GOLF CART BUT

1:11:37MUCH LONGER.

1:11:38DRIVER, PERSON, TWO KIDS FACING

1:11:40THAT WAY AND TWO KIDS FACING ME

1:11:43SITTING BACKWARDS LIKE THIS AND

1:11:45THE TRAFFIC WAS COMING AT THEM.

1:11:49NO LICENSE PLATE ON THE INSIDE

1:11:52LANE.

1:11:52LOOKS AROUND, MAKES A LEFT-HAND

1:11:54TURN ACROSS THE TRAFFIC LANE AND

1:11:55INTO THE TURNING LANE SO HE CAN

1:11:58GO SOUTH ON MacDILL.

1:12:00NOW, THAT GUY IS LOOKING FOR

1:12:03TROUBLE.

1:12:07THAT'S ALL I SAW.

1:12:09YOU SEE THAT ANYWHERE IN THE

1:12:10CITY OF TAMPA NOW.

1:12:11I DIDN'T SEE IT BEFORE.

1:12:13USED TO SEE IT ON DAVIS ISLAND,

1:12:14THAT WAS THE DEAL THEY HAD

1:12:16THERE.

1:12:16NOW I SEE THEM OUT ON CITY

1:12:19STREETS.

1:12:19SO SOONER OR LATER BY AN ACT OF

1:12:24GOD, SOMEBODY MAKING A MISTAKE,

1:12:26SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN

1:12:28THERE.

1:12:28WE'RE CREATING THINGS THAT WE

1:12:29CANNOT SOLVE BY JUST TRYING TO

1:12:31SOLVE THEM BECAUSE SOME OF THESE

1:12:32THINGS SHOULD NOT BE ON THE

1:12:36ROAD, HEAVY TRAFFIC.

1:12:38I IMAGINE THOSE WERE HIS KIDS.

1:12:40THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.

1:12:50>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE A

1:12:51VICTIM OF PROGRESS BECAUSE A LOT

1:12:51OF THINGS ARE COMING BACK FULL

1:12:53CIRCLE.

1:12:54WE HAD A STREETCAR SYSTEM THAT

1:12:55WORKED THAT SERVED A GOOD CHUNK

1:12:57OF THE CITY AS IT WAS BACK THEN,

1:12:59AND WE STOPPED THE SERVICE IN

1:13:031946.

1:13:05WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED TO

1:13:08ACCOMMODATE THE AUTOMOBILE, AND

1:13:09IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT SINCE

1:13:12BASICALLY WORLD WAR II.

1:13:13A GENTLEMAN THAT I KNEW, A

1:13:16WORLD WAR II VETERAN, HE SAID

1:13:17THE FIRST ITALIAN FAMILY IN

1:13:19SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, AND HE WAS

1:13:21BORN AT THE ST. JOE'S ON 7th

1:13:24AVENUE.

1:13:24USED TO BE THERE.

1:13:25THE SIDEWALK IS THERE.

1:13:28HE WAS BORN THERE, LIVED IN

1:13:30SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.

1:13:31AFTER THE WAR, HIS -- STORY TOLD

1:13:34ME -- WHY DO YOU WANT TO LIVE

1:13:36HERE?

1:13:36IT'S OLD.

1:13:37YOU KNOW, GO BUILD A HOUSE.

1:13:40GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

1:13:40GOT MARRIED, GOT AN APARTMENT ON

1:13:42DAVIS ISLANDS.

1:13:43WHEN HE DIED, HE LIVED FOR YEARS

1:13:46IN LUTZ.

1:13:46LUTZ WAS ALL FARM BACK THEN.

1:13:48NOW YOU SEE HOW IT HAS GROWN.

1:13:50WHY DO WE MOVE OUT THERE?

1:13:52IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE POPULATION

1:13:54OF TAMPA HAS GROWN.

1:13:55IT'S BECAUSE WE WANT -- YOU

1:13:58KNOW, YOU CAN GET MORE LAND AND

1:13:59BUILD A BIGGER HOUSE FARTHER

1:14:01OUT.

1:14:03THE MOVE TO SUBURBIA.

1:14:04WHAT I'VE SEEN LATELY, MAYBE IT

1:14:06IS MY GENERATION, MAYBE THE

1:14:08GENERATION BEFORE, WANT TO COME

1:14:10BACK TO THAT URBAN CORE.

1:14:11IF YOU LOOK AT YBOR CITY

1:14:13HISTORICALLY, IT'S A PERFECT

1:14:15EXAMPLE AS IT ORIGINALLY WAS OF

1:14:17LIVE, WORK, PLAY.

1:14:18YOU LIVED UPSTAIRS, YOU HAD YOUR

1:14:20BUSINESS DOWNSTAIRS.

1:14:21WORKED IN THE CIGAR FACTORY,

1:14:23WALKED TO YOUR SHOTGUN HOUSE,

1:14:26ALL THIS.

1:14:27THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.

1:14:30WE HAVE OVER A CENTURY OF DATA,

1:14:32BECAUSE WHAT WE HAD BEFORE

1:14:33WORKED.

1:14:34WE HAD A WORKING STREETCAR.

1:14:36WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WALKED TO

1:14:38WORK, THAT BIKE TO WORK, THAT

1:14:40DIDN'T HAVE TO GO FAR.

1:14:41DIDN'T HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR

1:14:42COMMUNITY.

1:14:43BUT NOW PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK.

1:14:44AND WITH THAT, THOSE BRICK

1:14:47STREETS, A LOT OF THEM WENT AWAY

1:14:49BECAUSE WE WANTED TO ACCOMMODATE

1:14:50THE AUTOMOBILE.

1:14:51WHY DO YOU WANT THAT OLD HOUSE,

1:14:54THAT OLD STREET?

1:14:54MODERNIZE IT WITH THE PAVEMENT.

1:14:56AND THEN YOU GET SPEEDING.

1:14:58DID PEOPLE GET KILLED BACK THEN

1:15:00I MENTIONED THE FORMER MAYOR,

1:15:02ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, I KNOW

1:15:04COUNCILMAN MIRANDA KNEW WHO

1:15:05WORKED AT TPD, HIS BROTHER WAS

1:15:08KILLED IN A CAR ACCIDENT IN THE

1:15:111930s.

1:15:11I DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD A BROTHER.

1:15:13YEAH, CROSSING NEBRASKA AT THE

1:15:14HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, IT WAS AN

1:15:15OPEN CAR AND I THINK HE FLEW

1:15:17OUT.

1:15:18THINGS HAPPEN BUT NOT TO THE

1:15:19LEVEL THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

1:15:23SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE

1:15:23THE DATA.

1:15:25WE KNOW HOW -- WE HAD A SYSTEM

1:15:28THAT WORKED.

1:15:29BUT AS PEOPLE, AS WE'RE COMING

1:15:32BACK FULL CIRCLE AND TALKING

1:15:33ABOUT EXPANDING THE STREETCAR,

1:15:34TALKING ABOUT BIKING TO WORK,

1:15:35TALKING ABOUT WALKING TO WORK,

1:15:38PEOPLE -- DOWNTOWN HAS COME

1:15:39BACK.

1:15:40THIS WHOLE AREA.

1:15:40THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.

1:15:43BUT WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS

1:15:44THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA

1:15:45WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO WALK TO THE

1:15:46BUS STOP, PEOPLE NEED TO WALK TO

1:15:48WORK.

1:15:48THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.

1:15:51THE ROUNDABOUTS, EVERYTHING THAT

1:15:52I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M NOT

1:15:53GOING TO GO THROUGH IT, BUT WE

1:15:55KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

1:15:57AGAIN, COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID

1:15:58MAYBE VISION ZERO WORKED.

1:16:00THE PHRASE TEN YEARS AGO, WE

1:16:01NEED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING NEWER

1:16:04AS WE LOOK FORWARD.

1:16:06I THINK HAVING THIS ADVISORY

1:16:08COMMITTEE IS GREAT BECAUSE I

1:16:11KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE FULL OF

1:16:12PEOPLE THAT BOOTS ON THE GROUND,

1:16:14THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING,

1:16:15THEY HAVE THE DATA.

1:16:16THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS.

1:16:18THEY HAVE STUDIED THIS AND HELP

1:16:20US MAKE BETTER DECISIONS MOVING

1:16:22FORWARD.

1:16:22YOU CAN NEVER INVEST TOO MUCH

1:16:25INTO THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS.

1:16:26YOU CAN ONLY KEEP INVESTING

1:16:28UNTIL, AGAIN, WE GET OFF THAT

1:16:29LIST OF TAMPA IS RANKED ONE OF

1:16:31THE WORST.

1:16:32WE STILL ARE.

1:16:34WE'RE GOING DOWN THE LIST, BUT

1:16:36WE HAVE TO DO BETTER, BECAUSE

1:16:37MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING

1:16:41HERE.

1:16:41THE POPULATION INCREASE HAS BEEN

1:16:42CLOSE TO 25,000 IN THE LAST

1:16:45EIGHT YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE

1:16:46THAT.

1:16:46THE SIZE OF TEMPLE TERRACE,

1:16:49ESSENTIALLY.

1:16:50AS MORE PEOPLE MOVE HERE, WE

1:16:52WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SAFE

1:16:53BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MASS

1:16:55TRANSIT.

1:16:56THAT REALLY APPLIES.

1:16:57PEOPLE RELY ON THE CAR, AND WE

1:16:59HAVE TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN.

1:17:00THAT'S IT.

1:17:00THANK YOU.

1:17:02>>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, THANK YOU

1:17:03FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

1:17:04IT'S BEEN AWESOME.

1:17:07THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN REALLY

1:17:08GOOD, TOO.

1:17:10SO YOUR VERY FIRST SLIDE, THE

1:17:12VERY FIRST THING YOU PUT UP.

1:17:17>>ADAM PURCELL: THE AGENDA?

1:17:19>>LYNN HURTAK: NO, SOMETHING

1:17:20THAT SHOWED 20, 30, 40 MILES AN

1:17:22HOUR.

1:17:23IT WAS REALLY THE FIRST --

1:17:27>>ADAM PURCELL: SORRY, I

1:17:28DISCARDED MY FILE OF SLIDES AS I

1:17:30WENT THROUGH THEM.

1:17:33>>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.

1:17:36SO I NOTICED THIS RIGHT AWAY

1:17:38BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK OF

1:17:41ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA

1:17:42WHERE THE SPEED LIMIT IS 20

1:17:43MILES AN HOUR.

1:17:48AGAIN, THAT'S A CHOICE THAT WE

1:17:51HAVE.

1:17:51BUT YOU GO TO OTHER CITIES WHO

1:17:52HAVE REALLY BEEN WORKING ON THIS

1:17:54PROBLEM, AND 20 IS PLENTY IS

1:17:57KIND OF THE NONRHYMING, RHYMING

1:17:59WAY TO TALK ABOUT IT.

1:18:01AND SO LIKE EVEN MY

1:18:03NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S 25 MILES AN

1:18:05HOUR.

1:18:05WE HAVE TO MOVE PAST 25.

1:18:07WE'VE GOT TO GET THOSE

1:18:09NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS BACK TO 20.

1:18:11I KNOW THERE IS A COST INVOLVED

1:18:12IN THAT IN CHANGING SIGNS AND

1:18:13DOING ALL OF THIS, BUT I DO --

1:18:16THE ONLY PLACE WE SEE 20 IS

1:18:19SCHOOL ZONES.

1:18:20IT'S REALLY RARE TO SEE THAT.

1:18:21MAYBE DOWNTOWN, BUT EVEN

1:18:22DOWNTOWN NOT REALLY.

1:18:24SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

1:18:25I WANT TO CHALLENGE US TO DO IS

1:18:27IN THOSE PLACES THAT WE CAN GO

1:18:29FROM 25 TO 20, TO REALLY LOOK

1:18:31AND SEE THAT 20 IS PLENTY.

1:18:34YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME OF

1:18:36OUR HIGH INJURY NETWORKS.

1:18:38ONE MAJOR STREET THAT I DON'T

1:18:39SEE ON THERE ANYMORE IS

1:18:42FLETCHER.

1:18:42AND THAT'S BECAUSE F.D.O.T. TOOK

1:18:44IT AND THEY ADDED BOLLARDS,

1:18:48CONNECTED BOLLARDS TO GET PEOPLE

1:18:50TO HAVE TO USE THE CROSSWALKS.

1:18:54IT'S WORKED BEAUTIFULLY.

1:18:56I TRAVEL FLETCHER BECAUSE MY

1:18:58FAVORITE BAGEL PLACE IS DOWN

1:19:00THERE.

1:19:00BAGELS PLUS, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN

1:19:02THERE, GREAT BAGELS.

1:19:04I GO DOWN THERE RELATIVELY OFTEN

1:19:06BECAUSE I LOVE A GOOD BAGEL.

1:19:09AND FLETCHER IS JUST A DIFFERENT

1:19:11PLACE NOW.

1:19:13PEOPLE ONLY CROSS AT CROSSWALKS

1:19:15AND IN THOSE MIDDLE LANE

1:19:17CROSSINGS BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY

1:19:20FOR THEM TO MOVE OTHERWISE.

1:19:21SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

1:19:23-- AND I KNOW THAT WAS AN

1:19:25F.D.O.T. THING, BUT MAYBE THAT'S

1:19:26SOMETHING THE COUNTY CAN LOOK AT

1:19:28FOR BAYSHORE.

1:19:29I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE

1:19:31PRETTY, BUT IT WILL WORK.

1:19:33ACTUALLY, I MEAN, IT'S NOT UGLY.

1:19:34WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, THEY HAVE

1:19:36DONE WOODEN BOLLARDS WITH ROPE

1:19:39BETWEEN THEM.

1:19:39AND THE ROPE IS HIGH ENOUGH THAT

1:19:40YOU CAN'T CLIMB IT, BUT NOT SO

1:19:42HIGH THAT YOU ALSO REALLY CAN'T

1:19:44GO UNDER IT.

1:19:46IT WORKS.

1:19:49SO I THINK THAT CAN HELP THE

1:19:52DART AND DASH PROBLEM THAT WE

1:19:55NEED.

1:19:56ALL OF US SEE IT.

1:19:57IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE IN

1:19:59A CAR, WALKING OR BIKING, YOU

1:20:00SEE THE DART DASH CONSTANTLY.

1:20:04SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS,

1:20:07TOO.

1:20:07I NOTICED THAT WE DO ENCOURAGE

1:20:09BIKING ON THESE LARGE

1:20:12THOROUGHFARES.

1:20:12AND THIS IS THE THING THAT I

1:20:14JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.

1:20:16THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I

1:20:17HOPE THE BPAC COMMITTEE CAN WORK

1:20:20ON IS, SINCE THE OLA AVENUE

1:20:22BIKEWAY HAS BEEN FINISHED, I SEE

1:20:25PEOPLE BIKING ALONG FLORIDA ALL

1:20:26THE TIME.

1:20:26I JUST WANT TO STOP AND SAY,

1:20:28HEY, DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS

1:20:30A PROTECTED BIKEWAY JUST TWO

1:20:32BLOCKS TO THE WEST?

1:20:33I GUARANTEE MOST OF THE PEOPLE

1:20:35DON'T KNOW THAT.

1:20:36PART OF OUR PROBLEM IS THERE'S

1:20:39NO SIGNAGE.

1:20:40THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION.

1:20:41WE HAVEN'T PUT IT OUT THERE

1:20:43THAT, HEY, THIS BIKE BOULEVARD

1:20:44EXISTS.

1:20:44IF YOU ARE A CYCLIST, YOU SHOULD

1:20:47REALLY BE ON THESE PARALLEL

1:20:50STREETS UNTIL YOU GET TO THE

1:20:52BLOCK, THAT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO

1:20:53GET TO SOMETHING ON FLORIDA

1:20:54AVENUE, LIKE TAKE THE PARALLEL

1:20:56STREET UNTIL YOU GET THERE.

1:20:59WE DON'T HAVE THAT CULTURE YET.

1:21:01THAT AGAIN GOES ALONG WITH THE

1:21:02PUBLIC RELA RELATIONS STUFF THAT

1:21:05COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WAS

1:21:06TALKING ABOUT, WE NEED TO GET

1:21:07MESSAGES OUT.

1:21:08HEY, PARALLEL STREETS REALLY

1:21:09WORK BEST FOR CYCLISTS.

1:21:11ANOTHER THING THAT IF MONEY WERE

1:21:12NO OBJECT AND TIME WERE NO

1:21:14OBJECT, ONE OF THE THINGS I

1:21:14WOULD LOVE TO DO IS STOP

1:21:19CYCLISTS AND ASK, HEY, WHERE ARE

1:21:20YOU GOING AND HOW DO YOU GET

1:21:21THERE?

1:21:23NOT ALL THE TIME, OBVIOUSLY SOME

1:21:25PEOPLE USING FLORIDA AVENUE, BUT

1:21:26OTHER PEOPLE WHO RIDE BIKES,

1:21:28WHETHER THEY BE THE E-BIKES THAT

1:21:29YOU SEE MORE AND MORE, BECAUSE

1:21:31THAT'S AN AFFORDABLE WAY OF

1:21:33TRANSPORTATION, HOW ARE THEY

1:21:34GETTING THERE?

1:21:35LIKE, WHAT ARE THEIR ROUTES?

1:21:36SO A LOT OF THE ROUTES THAT THEY

1:21:40ARE CREATING, IT'S THE NEW

1:21:42VERSION OF WAITING TO SEE WHERE

1:21:46PEOPLE WALK THROUGH GRASS BEFORE

1:21:47YOU PUT A SIDEWALK.

1:21:49BUT THAT'S EASY, UNFORTUNATELY.

1:21:50THIS IS NOT SO EASY.

1:21:52BUT WE REALLY HAVE TO FIND A WAY

1:21:54TO FIND OUT HOW ARE PEOPLE

1:21:55BIKING?

1:21:56HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING AROUND?

1:21:58BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL USE

1:21:59THE SAFE ROUTE IF THEY CAN.

1:22:01THEY WILL USE A NEIGHBORHOOD

1:22:03STREET AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT

1:22:04WHERE THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS

1:22:05ARE AND REALLY PRIORITIZE THAT,

1:22:07HELP WITH CROSSINGS, DO STUFF

1:22:08LIKE THAT.

1:22:14I HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE

1:22:16COMPLAIN TO ME ABOUT THIS

1:22:17RECENTLY.

1:22:17I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO

1:22:19YOUR ATTENTION.

1:22:20WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BIKE

1:22:23CROSSINGS, ONE AREA THAT WE

1:22:25HAVEN'T DONE A VERY GOOD JOB IS

1:22:27CROSSING THE RIVER.

1:22:29IT'S VERY HARD TO CROSS THE

1:22:31RIVER ON A BIKE.

1:22:32IT'S DUE TO THE NARROWNESS OF

1:22:34BRIDGES.

1:22:34I KNOW YOU'LL KIND OF WORK ON

1:22:35THAT WITH THE CASS STREET WITH

1:22:39THE WEST RIVER PROJECT, BUT WE

1:22:40ALSO HAVE TO LOOK LIKE FURTHER

1:22:43NORTH.

1:22:44HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING ACROSS

1:22:45THE RIVER?

1:22:49SIDEWALKS CAN EVEN BE NARROW IN

1:22:50SOME OF THE PLACES THAT CROSS

1:22:52THE RIVER.

1:22:53EVEN IF YOU HOP ON A SIDEWALK,

1:22:55IF THERE'S SOMEONE COMING AT YOU

1:22:56THE OTHER WAY, YOU ARE REALLY

1:22:57KIND OF STUCK.

1:22:59IT'S JUST SOMETHING -- I KNOW

1:23:01THAT IS A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM TO

1:23:03FIX, BUT JUST PUT IT ON YOUR

1:23:05RADAR.

1:23:06AS FAR AS THE BPAC GOES, I THINK

1:23:09THAT WE JUST HAD A REALLY

1:23:12SUCCESSFUL NRAC CREATION, AND WE

1:23:15DID HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS ON

1:23:17THAT AS WELL.

1:23:17SO I THINK THAT MIGHT NOT BE A

1:23:19BAD THING.

1:23:21MAYBE LOOK AT THE CREATION -- SO

1:23:22WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE NRAC WAS

1:23:25WE HAD THE MAYOR CHOOSE THE

1:23:30PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE

1:23:31THAT NEEDED TO BE LIKE A

1:23:34SPECIFIC SKILL SET, AND THEN

1:23:36COUNCIL CHOSE NEIGHBORHOOD

1:23:38LEADERS TO DO.

1:23:39MAYBE WE DON'T NEED LIKE A FULL

1:23:41COMMITTEE, A GIANT COMMITTEE

1:23:43LIKE THAT.

1:23:43BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WORKING ON

1:23:45THIS -- AND I LOVE THE WAY THAT

1:23:47-- YOU ARE DOING IT IN THE VERY

1:23:49SAME MANNER THE NRAC DID.

1:23:50THE NRAC HAS A SPECIFIC GOAL

1:23:54FIRST ABOUT ONE OF THE REPORTS

1:23:54THEY ARE WORKING ON, AND THEN

1:23:56THEY'LL SEE WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

1:23:58I THINK FOLLOWING THAT PATTERN

1:23:59MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

1:24:01I REALLY DO LIKE IT.

1:24:03I JUST WANT TO CLOSE WITH ONE

1:24:05THING, AND THAT'S THAT EVERYONE

1:24:06TALKS ABOUT NOT SEEING CYCLISTS.

1:24:09THE THING IS YOU DON'T SEE CARS

1:24:13UNLESS -- ON SOME STREETS EITHER

1:24:15BECAUSE CARS WHEN THERE AREN'T

1:24:17AS MANY CARS CAN MOVE THROUGH AN

1:24:19AREA FASTER.

1:24:20AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE

1:24:23ENOUGH BICYCLISTS TO SHOW, LIKE,

1:24:29WE DON'T HAVE BIKE -- WHAT IS

1:24:30THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?

1:24:33WE DON'T HAVE BIKE -- OH, WHAT

1:24:37IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?

1:24:41>>BRANDON CAMPBELL: TRYING TO

1:24:41BUILD NETWORKS.

1:24:42>>LYNN HURTAK: YES, WHAT I'M

1:24:43SAYING, WHEN YOU GET A BUNCH OF

1:24:45CARS IN A PLACE, YOU CAN TELL

1:24:46THERE ARE A BUNCH OF CARS THERE,

1:24:47BUT WHEN THE CARS CAN GO

1:24:49THROUGH, YOU DON'T NOTICE THEM

1:24:51AS MUCH.

1:24:52I THINK THAT'S HAPPENING WITH

1:24:54CYCLISTS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A

1:24:55REAL BUNCH OF CYCLISTS BECAUSE

1:24:57WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BIKES YET.

1:24:59THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE AND

1:25:00THAT'S CHANGING AND WE'RE

1:25:03STARTING TO SEE IT.

1:25:04I APPRECIATE AND THANK WHAT YOU

1:25:06HAVE DONE FOR THIS.

1:25:07COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

1:25:07>>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.

1:25:09I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON ONE THING

1:25:10SHE SAID AND A NEW IDEA.

1:25:15GUIDO MENTIONED TESLAS EARLIER.

1:25:18EVERY TESLA IS MAPPING EVERY

1:25:20BICYCLIST, EVERY PEDESTRIAN ON

1:25:21THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

1:25:23I DON'T KNOW IF GOOGLE IS DOING

1:25:24THAT OR NOT.

1:25:26IS THERE DATA THAT WE CAN BUY?

1:25:29EARLIER I TALKED ABOUT

1:25:32PEDESTRIAN PATTERNS SO WE CAN

1:25:33SEE THE NATURAL FLOWS OF PEOPLE

1:25:34AND WHERE SHOULD WE BE PUTTING

1:25:36CROSSWALKS LIKE ON BUSY ROADS

1:25:38LIKE BAYSHORE?

1:25:39BUT THE SAME THING WITH

1:25:42BICYCLISTS.

1:25:42WE SHOULD INTERVIEW THEM.

1:25:43THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO FIND OUT

1:25:45WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM AND

1:25:46WHAT THEIR LIFESTYLE IS,

1:25:48ET CETERA.

1:25:49BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET DATA

1:25:50ON WHAT THE FLOWS ARE?

1:25:53>>BRANDON CAMPBELL: IT'S

1:25:54DEFINITELY MORE DIFFICULT

1:25:57BECAUSE BICYCLISTS WOULD MORE OR

1:25:58LESS HAVE TO OPT INTO THAT.

1:26:00A COUPLE OF DATA SOURCES THAT

1:26:02ARE IMPERFECT, INCOMPLETE BUT

1:26:05STILL HELPFUL, STRAVA IS

1:26:07SOMETIMES A GOOD DATA SOURCE FOR

1:26:09US.

1:26:09THERE IS A SORT OF

1:26:10SELF-SELECTION BIAS, PEOPLE ARE

1:26:13USING STRAVA MOSTLY TO TRACK

1:26:15THEIR EXERCISE ROUTINE.

1:26:16SOME PEOPLE USE IT TO TRACK

1:26:19EVERYTHING.

1:26:20>>BILL CARLSON: IS IT POSSIBLE

1:26:21WE COULD GET SOMEBODY TO CONTACT

1:26:27TESLA, WAYMO AND --

1:26:28>>BRANDON CAMPBELL: TESLA IS A

1:26:29LITTLE LESS OPEN TO US WHEN IT

1:26:31COMES TO EVEN TALKING ABOUT

1:26:32THEIR AV OPERATION.

1:26:34WE DO HAVE A LITTLE MORE OPEN

1:26:36LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH

1:26:37WAYMO.

1:26:40WE HAVEN'T REALLY ASKED THEM

1:26:43ABOUT SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO

1:26:43PROVIDE US WITH ANY KIND OF

1:26:46CYCLIST DATA, BUT WE COULD ASK.

1:26:47>>BILL CARLSON: CYCLIST AND

1:26:48PEDESTRIAN WOULD BE GREAT.

1:26:49THE OTHER THING IS, WE HAVE A

1:26:50MOTION COMING UP I THINK NEXT

1:26:51MONTH TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY

1:27:00ALLOCATING THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED

1:27:02CAMERA MONEY TO SCHOOL ZONES

1:27:04THAT I THINK AN ESTIMATE WAS 14

1:27:06MILLION A YEAR OR SOMETHING.

1:27:07I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE STILL

1:27:09GOING THROUGH.

1:27:09HOW MUCH OF A DENT, THAT WOULD

1:27:11ONLY BE SCHOOL ZONES, BUT HOW

1:27:13MUCH OF A DENT WOULD THAT MONEY,

1:27:1514 MILLION A YEAR PUT INTO

1:27:17SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

1:27:20>>ADAM PURCELL: THAT WOULD

1:27:21EXPAND OUR PROGRAM BY MULTIPLES

1:27:23OF ITS CURRENT FUNDING.

1:27:24RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT A

1:27:25MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR DEDICATED

1:27:27TO SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION.

1:27:28IF WE'RE LOOKING TO BRINGING IN

1:27:3010 TO 14 MILLION, WE HAVE ABOUT

1:27:32800,000 FOR VISION ZERO, SAFETY

1:27:34QUICK-BUILD PROGRAM.

1:27:34WE HAVE ABOUT A MILLION FOR

1:27:36SIDEWALKS.

1:27:37WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

1:27:39TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTING 10 TO

1:27:4214 MILLION A YEAR, THAT WOULD

1:27:43GIVE US THE FUNDING TO HAVE A

1:27:45ROBUST PROGRAM.

1:27:46WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION RIGHT

1:27:47NOW WITH STAFF IN THE

1:27:49DEVELOPMENT OF THAT ORDINANCE OF

1:27:51WHERE THOSE FUNDS CAN BE SPENT

1:27:52AND HOW THEY CAN BE SPENT ON

1:27:54SAFETY.

1:27:54IS IT THE SCHOOL ZONE, IS IT THE

1:27:57SCHOOL ATTENDANCE ZONE TO WORK

1:27:59SAFE DISTANCE TO SCHOOLS PROGRAM

1:28:00LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN SULPHUR

1:28:02SPRINGS.

1:28:03PRIMARY AND SECONDARY APPROACH

1:28:04CORRIDORS.

1:28:04WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF

1:28:06DISCUSSION WITH LEGAL WHERE WE

1:28:07THINK THE MONEY CAN BE SPENT FOR

1:28:09THAT.

1:28:09THAT 10 TO 15 MILLION WOULD BE A

1:28:11GAME CHANGING SUM FOR OUR

1:28:15PROGRAM --

1:28:16>>BILL CARLSON: WAS IT PASCO

1:28:18COUNTY?

1:28:19>>ADAM PURCELL: POLK COUNTY.

1:28:19>>BILL CARLSON: IT WAS A "P."

1:28:21ANYWAY, IN POLK COUNTY, DID YOU

1:28:23SEE A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS IN

1:28:27LIVES IN ACCIDENTS FROM

1:28:27PROTECTING THE SCHOOL AREAS?

1:28:31>>ADAM PURCELL: SO POLK TOOK THE

1:28:32APPROACH OF AN EDUCATION

1:28:33PROGRAM.

1:28:34SO THERE'S POLKSAFETY.ORG IS A

1:28:36WEBSITE.

1:28:36I HELPED DEVELOP THAT AS A

1:28:39CONSULTANT.

1:28:39WE ACTUALLY WENT INTO THE SCHOOL

1:28:41SYSTEM.

1:28:41THE COUNTY PROVIDED THE SCHOOL

1:28:42DISTRICT WITH AN EDUCATION PLAN.

1:28:44WE HAD FORMER TEACHERS ON OUR

1:28:45PROJECT TEAM THAT HELPED WRITE

1:28:47CURRICULUM TO TEACH IN SCHOOLS.

1:28:48I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

1:28:50WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDS IN

1:28:53THE STATE STATUTE, IT SAYS

1:28:54PUBLIC SAFETY FOR USE FOR PUBLIC

1:28:58SAFETY, EDUCATION PROGRAMS MAY

1:28:59POTENTIALLY FALL UNDER THAT

1:29:00UMBRELLA.

1:29:01I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT LEGAL

1:29:03AGREED WITH THAT VIEW OR

1:29:06PERCEPTION.

1:29:07BUT I THINK THAT WE FOCUS --

1:29:11POLK WAS FIRST INFRASTRUCTURE.

1:29:12WE LOOKED AT THE HIGH INJURY

1:29:13NETWORK THERE.

1:29:14WE LOOKED AT PROVIDING SIDEWALKS

1:29:16TO ACCOMMODATE.

1:29:17WE LOOKED AT SAFE CROSSING

1:29:19OPPORTUNITIES.

1:29:19BUT THEN THEY DECIDED TO TAKE

1:29:21FUNDING AND PAIR IT WITH THAT

1:29:23EDUCATION PROGRAM.

1:29:24I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS

1:29:25SHOWING RESULTS.

1:29:26THAT PROJECT I THINK IS WRAPPING

1:29:31UP IN POLK COUNTY.

1:29:31THEY HAD A SAFE STREETS AND

1:29:34ROADS FOR ALL PROJECT AS WELL,

1:29:35SO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING

1:29:36THROUGH THAT.

1:29:38THEIR NUMBERS FOLLOW A SIMILAR

1:29:39TREND TO OURS WITH THE COVID

1:29:41SPIKE AND THEN THE SLOW

1:29:43DECREASE.

1:29:44>>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.

1:29:45WELL, THANK YOU.

1:29:45I APPRECIATE THAT.

1:29:46THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION,

1:29:48BECAUSE IT REMINDED ME, THERE IS

1:29:51A GRASSROOTS CURRENT OPT-IN BIKE

1:29:55MAPPING APP, ROUTE MAPPING APP.

1:29:56ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH IT?

1:29:58>>ADAM PURCELL: I AM NOT.

1:29:59>>LYNN HURTAK: SOMEONE IN YOUR

1:30:00OFFICE MIGHT BE.

1:30:01IF NOT, I'VE JOTTED A NOTE TO

1:30:03ASK SOMEONE I KNOW WHO IS

1:30:05PARTICIPATING IN IT TO FIND OUT

1:30:07WHO IS CREATING THAT AND I'LL

1:30:09TRY TO CONNECT YOU BECAUSE THAT

1:30:13WILL HELP YOU FIGURE OUT MAYBE

1:30:17WHERE SOME OF THESE.

1:30:18THE IDEA IS PULLING PEOPLE WHO

1:30:20ARE NOT RECREATIONAL CYCLISTS

1:30:23BUT ARE PEOPLE WHO USE BIKING AS

1:30:25A MAIN FORM OF TRANSIT.

1:30:27LIKE I SAID, I'LL FIND OUT WHO

1:30:29IS DOING THAT.

1:30:30SOMEONE IN YOUR OFFICE WHO IS

1:30:32WORKING WITH BIKES MAY KNOW THAT

1:30:34ALREADY.

1:30:34BUT IF NOT, LIKE I SAID, I'LL

1:30:36FIND THAT INFO.

1:30:38>> THERE IS VENDOR DATA OUT

1:30:39THERE AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN

1:30:40PURCHASE FOR BIKE AND PED

1:30:43VOLUMES.

1:30:43WE PURCHASED AN URBAN DATA SET.

1:30:45IT'S SPEED AND VOLUME ON ALL THE

1:30:47CITY ROADS.

1:30:49THAT'S COSTING US $45,000 THIS

1:30:53YEAR.

1:30:53LIKELY TO GO UP NEXT YEAR.

1:30:56SO THOSE ADD ONS FOR BIKE PED

1:30:58PROBABLY IN THE RANGE OF 50 TO

1:31:0175 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A

1:31:02SUBSCRIPTION FEE TO GET THAT

1:31:04KIND OF DATA.

1:31:05>>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S GOOD TO

1:31:06KNOW.

1:31:07IS THERE ANYTHING YOU NEED FROM

1:31:09US TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY?

1:31:10>>ADAM PURCELL: I DON'T BELIEVE

1:31:11SO.

1:31:11SO WHAT WE PLAN TO DO, WE'RE IN

1:31:15CONTACT WITH CONTRACT

1:31:16ADMINISTRATION RIGHT NOW.

1:31:16WE'RE WORKING ON THE LANGUAGE

1:31:19FOR THE SOLICITATION FOR THE

1:31:21PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

1:31:23SO WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT

1:31:25SOLICITATION ISSUED BEFORE THE

1:31:26END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR.

1:31:28AND THEN A FIRM ON BOARD IN

1:31:31EARLY '27 TO BEGIN WORK ON THAT

1:31:33PROGRAM.

1:31:35I THINK THAT THE SURVEY

1:31:37ABSOLUTELY A COMPONENT THAT WE

1:31:38CAN INCORPORATE INTO THE

1:31:41COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PORTION OF

1:31:42THAT.

1:31:42AND THEN THE BPAC AS WELL OR AN

1:31:46EQUIVALENT COMMITTEE OF A BPAC

1:31:46SIMILARITY.

1:31:48WE'RE ON THE TRACK TO GET THE

1:31:52WORK UNDERWAY, AND THEN I GUESS

1:31:54JUST YOUR SUPPORT AS WE WORK

1:31:55THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT

1:31:57EFFORTS.

1:31:57I KNOW WE GET A LOT OF REQUESTS

1:31:59FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COME OUT

1:32:00TO THEIR DISTRICTS AND THEIR

1:32:02NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAVE

1:32:04CONVERSATIONS.

1:32:05WE LOOK FOR THAT CONTINUED

1:32:06ENGAGEMENT.

1:32:07>>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE

1:32:07THAT.

1:32:09SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CREATION

1:32:10OF THE BPAC OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT

1:32:12BE MIGHT BE LEFT TO THE NEXT

1:32:15COUNCIL.

1:32:16>>ADAM PURCELL: CORRECT, YEAH.

1:32:17THE INTENT IS TO CREATE IT, TO

1:32:21FACILITATE THAT PROJECT.

1:32:21LIKE YOU NOTED, LOOK AT HOW IT

1:32:23FUNCTIONS.

1:32:24HOW DOES IT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED

1:32:25AND THEN MAKE IT A MORE

1:32:27PERMANENT ENTITY WITHIN THE

1:32:28CITY.

1:32:29>>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.

1:32:29COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.

1:32:32>>BILL CARLSON: WE DON'T KNOW

1:32:32WHO WILL GET ELECTED NEXT.

1:32:33I THINK YOUR INTENTION IS TO

1:32:35CREATE IT NOW, RIGHT?

1:32:36WHAT IS THE HOLDUP?

1:32:38CAN WE GET IT STARTED NOW?

1:32:39>>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE THE GOAL

1:32:43IS TO -- SIMILAR TO THE NRAC, TO

1:32:44HAVE IT HAVE A PURPOSE.

1:32:45AND THE PURPOSE IS TO HELP WITH

1:32:49THIS PLAN.

1:32:49>>BILL CARLSON: IF WE PUT IT

1:32:51TOGETHER NOW, THEN THEY CAN GIVE

1:32:53INPUT INTO THE RFP AND GUIDE THE

1:32:57CONSULTANTS.

1:32:59>>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.

1:33:00>>ADAM PURCELL: I THINK THERE

1:33:01ARE QUESTIONS ON STRUCTURE.

1:33:02WHO WOULD STAFF IT, WHO WOULD

1:33:04MANAGE IT FROM THE COUNCIL

1:33:05PERSPECTIVE, WHO WOULD ADVERTISE

1:33:08THE MEETINGS, WHO WOULD CONDUCT

1:33:09THE MEETINGS.

1:33:09I THINK THERE WERE SOME

1:33:10QUESTIONS THERE THAT WE HAD HOPE

1:33:12TO ANSWER AS WE KIND OF WORKED

1:33:14THROUGH THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY

1:33:15ACTION PLAN.

1:33:18BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO

1:33:19TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT, WE CAN DO

1:33:20THAT.

1:33:20>>BILL CARLSON: YOUR INITIATIVE,

1:33:21BUT IF IT COMES BACK.

1:33:22>>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.

1:33:23I WAS GOING TO SAY MAYBE WE JUST

1:33:27GET AN UPDATE -- LET'S SAY

1:33:30JANUARY.

1:33:32IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A

1:33:34MOTION FOR JANUARY 7.

1:33:35>>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.

1:33:36>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.

1:33:37>>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION

1:33:38FOR THIS TO COME BACK TO TALK

1:33:41ABOUT HOW -- WE'LL CONTINUE TO

1:33:43CALL IT BPAC FOR NOW.

1:33:45I DO THINK BPAC STILL WORKS

1:33:47BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE

1:33:48OTHER PEOPLE TO JOIN THAT FOCUS

1:33:50ON OTHER THINGS, BUT THE POINT

1:33:52OF THE COMMITTEE IS FOCUSING,

1:33:54BUT WE CAN DEBATE THAT LATER.

1:33:55RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE THREE

1:33:57STAFF REPORTS.

1:33:57I HAVE A MOTION FOR BPAC UPDATE

1:34:01TO COME BACK TO US ON JANUARY 7

1:34:03UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

1:34:04I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL

1:34:06MEMBER MANISCALCO.

1:34:06ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

1:34:08AYE.

1:34:08ANY OPPOSED?

1:34:10OKAY.

1:34:10WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1:34:11I APPRECIATE IT.

1:34:13WE ARE GOING TO DO JUST A

1:34:14FIVE-MINUTE BREAK BECAUSE I NEED

1:34:16TO USE THE RESTROOM.

1:34:17>>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE

1:34:19THING?

1:34:19THE CLERK, WHEN WE GO FROM ITEM

1:34:21TO ITEM CONTINUING, IT HAS

1:34:23ORIGINAL MOTION BY, BUT JUST IN

1:34:25CASE, SINCE THIS IS GOING FROM A

1:34:27WORKSHOP TO A REGULAR ITEM,

1:34:28WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING IN THERE,

1:34:30IF IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT THE

1:34:31ORIGINAL MOTION WAS BY HURTAK?

1:34:33SHE JUST HAPPENED TO BE CHAIR SO

1:34:36COULDN'T MAKE THE MOTION.

1:34:36THANK YOU.

1:34:38>>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.

1:34:39OKAY.

1:34:39THANK YOU.

1:34:42FIVE MINUTES.

1:34:45[FIVE-MINUTE RECESS]

1:43:31>>LYNN HURTAK: BACK BACK TO

1:43:31TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP

1:43:33EDITION.

1:43:33ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

1:43:36>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

1:43:37>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

1:43:39>> YOUNG?

1:43:40VIERA?

1:43:40CARLSON?

1:43:42>>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

1:43:42>> CLENDENIN?

1:43:44HURTAK?

1:43:45>>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.

1:43:45>>THE CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL

1:43:47QUORUM.

1:43:47>>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

1:43:48WE ARE ON THE LAST ITEM OF THE

1:43:50AGENDA.

1:43:50THAT IS RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR

1:43:52CITY BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.

1:43:56THERE HE IS.

1:43:57I WAS JUST GOING TO PAGE FOR

1:43:59YOU.

1:43:59EXCELLENT.

1:44:01WELCOME.

1:44:07WE'LL START WITH YOU.

1:44:09DO WE NEED TO START WITH YOU,

1:44:11MR. SHELBY?

1:44:11>>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO THAT

1:44:13YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, THAT MY ROLE

1:44:17IN THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN,

1:44:21FRANKLY, IN THE ROLE OF

1:44:22COORDINATING AND FACILITATING.

1:44:23I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE BULK

1:44:26OF THE WORK PRODUCT THAT YOU

1:44:28SEE, I DO NOT HAVE MY

1:44:29FINGERPRINTS ON, ALTHOUGH I AM

1:44:30VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE WORK THEY

1:44:32HAVE DONE.

1:44:33THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH I'M A

1:44:35PART OF THE MOTION, THIS IS

1:44:37PRIMARILY THE WORK OF THE LEGAL

1:44:39DEPARTMENT IN COORDINATION WITH

1:44:41THE CRA ATTORNEY, AND THAT IS A

1:44:44TOTALLY SEPARATE SUBJECT, THE

1:44:45CRA ITSELF.

1:44:46THAT BEING MY INTRODUCTION, I

1:44:48REALLY HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO

1:44:50SAY.

1:44:50>>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.

1:44:50WONDERFUL.

1:44:51THANK YOU.

1:44:51WELCOME.

1:44:57>>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: CITY

1:44:57ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

1:44:59I'M HERE WITH TAYLOR BOLLT WHO

1:45:03HAS BEEN A PART OF THE PROJECT

1:45:04AS WELL.

1:45:05WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH THE

1:45:06DEPUTY CITY CLERK ON THIS AS

1:45:07WELL.

1:45:08WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE

1:45:11RULES AND PROCEDURES.

1:45:12>>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY, YOUR

1:45:13PRESENTATION IS UP.

1:45:18>>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: THAT'S

1:45:19GREAT.

1:45:20THE MOTION WAS THAT THE CITY

1:45:22COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND THE CITY

1:45:24ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WORK WITH THE

1:45:26DEPARTMENT, CRA DIRECTOR, CRA

1:45:29ATTORNEY TO CREATE STANDARD

1:45:30RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR

1:45:32ATTENDANCE, OPENING, CLOSING,

1:45:34TIMELINE, ET CETERA.

1:45:34WE WERE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK

1:45:37SEPTEMBER 3rd.

1:45:37AT THAT TIME, THE ITEM WAS

1:45:39CONTINUED TO TODAY.

1:45:41AS MR. SHELBY MENTIONED, THE CRA

1:45:42ITEM WILL COME TO YOU NEXT

1:45:46MONTH.

1:45:46AFTER WE LOOKED AT THE MOTION,

1:45:51TAYLOR AND I DECIDED IN

1:45:52CONSULTATION WITH THE CHAIR, OF

1:45:54COURSE, DECIDED IT WAS BEST TO

1:45:55BREAK THIS UP INTO TWO PARTS.

1:45:57PART A IS THE LOCAL BOARD

1:46:00APPOINTMENT PROCESS INCLUDING

1:46:02STANDARDIZING TIMELINES AND

1:46:03PROCEDURES.

1:46:03PART B IS YOUR TERMS,

1:46:05COMPOSITION, AND ESTABLISHMENT

1:46:07OF YOUR LOCAL BOARDS, INCLUDING

1:46:08MEMBERSHIP TERMS AND RULES OF

1:46:11PROCEDURE.

1:46:13WHEN WE GOT THIS ASSIGNMENT, WE

1:46:15PICKED UP THE PHONE.

1:46:17WE CALLED SULING AND WE WERE

1:46:18DELIGHTED TO LEARN THAT SHE WAS

1:46:19WELL AHEAD OF THE CURVEBALL ON

1:46:22PART A OF THIS.

1:46:23BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE

1:46:27ABOUT 30 BOARDS.

1:46:30WE HAVE OVER TIME, AMONG MANY

1:46:31PEOPLE AND LIAISONS AND

1:46:32ATTORNEYS WORKING ON THESE

1:46:34BOARDS, WE HAVE STANDARDIZED

1:46:36RULES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARDS

1:46:37BUT NOT ALL THE BOARDS.

1:46:42JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU

1:46:43THAT A LOT OF OUR BOARDS IN THE

1:46:44CITY OF TAMPA ARE ESTABLISHED BY

1:46:46AN ENTITY OTHER THAN COUNCIL.

1:46:49THEY ARE ESTABLISHED BY A

1:46:51SPECIAL ACT, PLANNING

1:46:53COMMISSION.

1:46:53THEY ARE ESTABLISHED BY STATE

1:46:55LAW, THINK AHAC.

1:46:57WE ALSO HAVE BOARDS THAT WE'VE

1:46:59ESTABLISHED LOCALLY, BUT THE

1:47:00RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT ALLOW

1:47:03US TO CONTINUE TO REMAIN A LOCAL

1:47:07CERTIFIED GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY IN

1:47:09HISTORIC PRESERVATION COME TO US

1:47:10THROUGH FEDERAL AUTHORITY.

1:47:11THAT WOULD TOUCH OUR

1:47:13ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION,

1:47:15BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION AND

1:47:17HISTORIC PRESERVATION

1:47:18COMMISSION.

1:47:19YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF LOCAL

1:47:21BOARDS CREATED BY CHARTER

1:47:22ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION.

1:47:24I'VE LISTED THOSE HERE.

1:47:25WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THESE WHEN

1:47:27WE GET TO PART B.

1:47:29PART A FOCUSES HOLISTICALLY ON

1:47:31ALL YOUR BOARDS.

1:47:33PART B THE LOCAL BOARDS.

1:47:34LOCAL BOARDS, LOCALLY CREATED

1:47:36INCLUDE YOUR CHARTER REVIEW

1:47:38ADVISORY COMMISSION, THE BUDGET

1:47:40AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, THE CBAC,

1:47:43EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY,

1:47:44HUMAN RIGHTS BOARD, NATURAL

1:47:46RESOURCES ADVISORY COMMITTEE,

1:47:48PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, VARIANCE

1:47:50REVIEW BOARD AND VETERAN'S

1:47:51ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

1:47:51WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LOCAL

1:47:53BOARDS, BUT THEY ARE VERY

1:47:54UNIQUE.

1:47:54THE ETHICS COMMISSION, AS YOU

1:47:56KNOW, THE MEMBERS HAVE VERY

1:47:57SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS,

1:48:01INCLUDING SOMEONE WHO IS

1:48:04APPOINTED BY THE CHIEF JUDGE OF

1:48:05OUR CIRCUIT.

1:48:06SOMEONE APPOINTED BY THE

1:48:07HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BAR.

1:48:08AND THEN WE ALSO PARTICIPATE IN

1:48:12THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BUILDING

1:48:12BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WHICH WAS

1:48:14CREATED BY COUNTY ORDINANCE.

1:48:17NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO

1:48:18PART A WHICH WAS OUR DISCUSSION

1:48:22ABOUT APPOINTMENT PROCESS AND

1:48:23JUST ALL OF THE PROCESSES THAT

1:48:25WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WITH

1:48:27REGARD TO STANDARDIZING

1:48:28TIMELINES AND PROCEDURES.

1:48:29AS I SAID, ONCE WE PICKED UP THE

1:48:33PROJECT, WE CALLED SULING.

1:48:34SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, I'VE REALLY

1:48:36BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR MONTHS

1:48:39BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF

1:48:40THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO LOOK

1:48:42AT.

1:48:42WE TALKED TO HER IN SOME DETAIL

1:48:46AND WE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL

1:48:47ISSUES, INCLUDING THAT,

1:48:48GENERALLY SPEAKING, AS A CITY,

1:48:51WE HAVE DIFFICULTY FINDING

1:48:52CITIZENS TO SERVE ON BOARDS.

1:48:54WE MAY EXPERIENCE DELAY IN

1:48:55FILLING OPEN POSITIONS FOR SOME

1:48:58BOARDS.

1:48:58A BIG ISSUE, A SUBISSUE OF

1:49:00DIFFICULTY FINDING CITIZENS TO

1:49:01SERVE ON BOARDS IS THAT A LOT OF

1:49:03THEM NEED TO HAVE SPECIAL

1:49:04QUALIFICATIONS.

1:49:05AS YOU KNOW, THE ARC, WE HAVE

1:49:08ARCHITECTS, HISTORIC

1:49:10PRESERVATIONISTS, VRB IS IN NEED

1:49:11RIGHT NOW OF AN ARBORIST.

1:49:13THOSE ARE VERY SPECIAL

1:49:14QUALIFICATIONS.

1:49:15THIS ALL GOES TO OUR ABILITY TO

1:49:17ESTABLISH QUORUM, LIKE YOU ALL

1:49:21DID TODAY, TO HAVE YOUR MEETING.

1:49:22WE REALLY SOMETIMES HAVE TO PUSH

1:49:25BETWEEN CONFLICTS ON THE AGENDA

1:49:27AND BOARD MEMBERS AVAILABILITY.

1:49:28SOMETIMES WE REALLY HAVE TO PUSH

1:49:29TO GET A QUORUM.

1:49:32WE ALSO HAVE IDENTIFIED -- I

1:49:33KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HEARD THIS A

1:49:35LOT BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD ALL

1:49:36THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS -- WE

1:49:37HAVE ISSUES REPLACING BOARD

1:49:39MEMBERS WHO FAIL TO SHOW UP FOR

1:49:40MEETINGS.

1:49:41WE'VE HAD BOARD MEMBERS

1:49:42APPOINTED AND THEY COME TO THEIR

1:49:43ORIENTATION.

1:49:44THEY COME TO THE FIRST MEETING

1:49:44AND WE NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN.

1:49:48TALKING TO SULING, WE LOOKED AT

1:49:51ALL THESE ISSUES, AND WE

1:49:53THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, SHE'S REALLY,

1:49:55REALLY PUT A PUSH WITH T & I TO

1:49:59TRACK RESIGNATIONS AND

1:50:01VACANCIES.

1:50:01SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE

1:50:04LIAISONS TRYING TO REALLY

1:50:05HOMOGENIZE THAT PROCESS SOMEWHAT

1:50:07BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SUCH A

1:50:08CHALLENGE OVER THE YEARS.

1:50:10YOU HAVE A RULE 8 IN YOUR

1:50:12COUNCIL RULES THAT DISCUSSES

1:50:14FILLING VACANCIES BUT REALLY

1:50:15DOESN'T PROVIDE TIMELINES.

1:50:18WE ALSO NOTICED -- AND THIS IS

1:50:20ALMOST COMING TO THE FINISH LINE

1:50:21-- THAT OUR APPLICATIONS DON'T

1:50:23REALLY REQUIRE APPLICANT TO

1:50:25PROVIDE THEIR QUALIFICATION.

1:50:26SO IF I'M AN ARCHITECT AND I

1:50:28WANT TO SERVE ON THE BARRIO

1:50:29LATINO COMMISSION, THERE'S NO

1:50:30LINE ON THE APPLICATION THAT I

1:50:31SAY I'M AN ARCHITECT.

1:50:33YOU KIND OF HAVE TO BREATHE IT

1:50:34OUT OF THE APPLICATION.

1:50:37SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH THIS.

1:50:39IN FACT, IT'S IMMINENT.

1:50:40IT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED ON THE

1:50:42APPLICATION VERY SOON.

1:50:45ANOTHER THING WE HAVE

1:50:46EXPERIENCED, ONE OF OUR FINDINGS

1:50:47WAS THAT MANY BOARDS REQUIRE

1:50:50APPLICANTS TO BE CITY OF TAMPA

1:50:52RESIDENTS.

1:50:52AND THEN AGAIN, I'LL MENTION --

1:50:54AND THIS WILL BE ANOTHER THEME

1:50:55-- THERE'S NO CONSISTENT PROCESS

1:50:56FOR REMOVING MEMBERS WHO FAIL TO

1:50:58ATTEND MEETINGS.

1:51:01FURTHER FINDINGS DISCUSSING THIS

1:51:03WITH THE CHAIR AND THE CLERK'S

1:51:06OFFICE, OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE

1:51:10PREDICTABILITY AND

1:51:10STANDARDIZATION IN THE PROCESS.

1:51:12AGAIN, SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH

1:51:15T & I AND THE BOARD LIAISONS TO

1:51:17TRACK RESIGNATIONS AND

1:51:17VACANCIES.

1:51:19AND WE WANT TO HAVE A CLEAR-CUT

1:51:21PROCESS IF WE NEED TO REMOVE A

1:51:23BOARD MEMBER WHEN THEY ARE NOT

1:51:25ATTENDING.

1:51:26THE BOARD MEMBER -- THE REASON

1:51:27THAT'S SUCH A THEME FOR ME AND

1:51:30FOR ALL OF US, ACTUALLY THE CRA

1:51:33ATTORNEYS AS WELL IS TAYLOR AND

1:51:36SULING, IS BECAUSE THAT GOES TO

1:51:37OUR ABILITY TO HAVE A QUORUM.

1:51:38IF WE DON'T HAVE -- IF WE HAVE

1:51:41AN INACTIVE MEMBER BUT STILL ON

1:51:43OUR ROSTER, THAT UPS OUR NUMBER

1:51:45FOR A QUORUM.

1:51:47SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE

1:51:48HAVE ACTIVE ENGAGED MEMBERSHIP.

1:51:50SO AFTER LOOKING AT EVERYTHING,

1:51:53TALKING TO CITY COUNCIL

1:51:54ATTORNEY, TALKING TO THE CITY

1:51:56CLERK, TALKING TO BOARD

1:51:59LIAISONS, WE WOULD RECOMMEND

1:52:01THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER

1:52:02AMENDING YOUR RULES TO PROVIDE A

1:52:04TIMELINE FOR A POSITION TO BE

1:52:05ADVERTISED BEFORE CLOSING.

1:52:09RIGHT NOW, YOUR APPLICATION

1:52:11PROCESS IS OPEN, AND THEN

1:52:13THERE'S NO TIME FRAME.

1:52:14WE TALKED TO EVERYONE KIND OF

1:52:17CAME DOWN ON ABOUT A SIX-WEEK

1:52:18PERIOD WOULD BE A FAIR PERIOD OF

1:52:20TIME TO LEAVE SORT OF LIKE A JOB

1:52:22APPLICATION.

1:52:23IT'S OPEN FOR 45 DAYS.

1:52:27BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT TAKES A

1:52:28LITTLE WHILE FOR THE WORD TO GET

1:52:29OUT.

1:52:30FINALLY, THE WORD GETS OUT, AND

1:52:31YOU WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR

1:52:33PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED TO

1:52:35APPLY.

1:52:36IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO GET -- IF

1:52:40THEY WANTED TO REACH BACK OUT

1:52:41AND REOPEN THE PROCESS, YOU

1:52:43COULD DO THAT, AND WE COULD ADD

1:52:44THAT TO YOUR RULE 8.

1:52:49AGAIN, WE'LL AMEND THE

1:52:50APPLICATION TO HAVE THE

1:52:51QUALIFICATIONS SPECIFICALLY

1:52:52STATED.

1:52:53IN SOME CASES, AND THIS IS

1:52:55SOMETHING YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO

1:52:55THINK ABOUT, EXPANDING THE POOL

1:52:58TO ALLOW CERTAIN COUNTY

1:52:59RESIDENTS WITH A CONNECTION TO

1:53:00THE CITY TO APPLY FOR SOME

1:53:03BOARDS.

1:53:03AS YOU KNOW, BARRIO LATINO

1:53:06COMMISSION IS SOMEONE WHO EITHER

1:53:07RESIDES OR OPERATES A BUSINESS

1:53:08IN THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC

1:53:10DISTRICT.

1:53:10IF ALL OF OUR MEMBERS HAD TO

1:53:12ACTUALLY RESIDE IN YBOR CITY,

1:53:14THAT WOULD BE A VERY, VERY, VERY

1:53:16SLIM POOL.

1:53:16BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WORK

1:53:18THERE, VERY ENGAGED.

1:53:20OUR CHAIR HAS A BUSINESS IN YBOR

1:53:21CITY AT THE MOMENT.

1:53:23SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING, IF

1:53:24THERE WAS A STRONG CONNECTION TO

1:53:26THE CITY, A COUNTY RESIDENT MAY

1:53:28BE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON SOME OF

1:53:30YOUR BOARDS.

1:53:31AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT

1:53:32WE'RE ABLE TO REMOVE MEMBERS

1:53:34THAT ARE NOT ACTIVE.

1:53:38SO THAT'S PART A.

1:53:38THAT'S ALL OF OUR BOARDS.

1:53:41WHETHER IT'S CREATED BY THE

1:53:43STATUTE OR CREATED BY THE

1:53:44FEDERAL PROCESS, WHATEVER, THOSE

1:53:46WERE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE

1:53:47LEARNED IN THE BIGGER PICTURE

1:53:49HOW WE CAN EXPEDITE, ENGAGE MORE

1:53:52PEOPLE, EXPEDITE THE PROCESS,

1:53:53MAKE IT MORE STANDARDIZED AND

1:53:54MORE UNIFORM.

1:53:56NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT PART B.

1:53:58PART B WAS OUR TERMS,

1:54:00COMPOSITION, AND ESTABLISHMENT

1:54:01OF LOCAL BOARDS, INCLUDING

1:54:03MEMBERSHIP TERMS AND RULES OF

1:54:05PROCEDURE.

1:54:05AND THESE ARE THE MATTERS THAT

1:54:09GO TO YOUR SPECIFICALLY LOCAL

1:54:10BOARDS.

1:54:11AND THE LISTS I PROVIDED AGAIN

1:54:13JUST TO REFRESH OUR MEMORY,

1:54:15CHARTER REVIEW, ADVISORY AND

1:54:18BUDGET COMMITTEE, COMMUNITY

1:54:20BENEFITS, EQUAL BUSINESS

1:54:21OPPORTUNITY, HUMAN RIGHTS,

1:54:22NATURAL RESOURCES, PUBLIC ART,

1:54:25VARIANCE REVIEW, AND VETERANS

1:54:27ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

1:54:27THOSE ARE OUR PURELY LOCAL

1:54:29BOARDS CREATED BY ORDINANCE OR

1:54:30CHARTER.

1:54:31A LOT OF THEM ARE ADVISORY.

1:54:34AS WE LOOKED AT OUR LOCAL

1:54:37BOARDS, AND STARTED LOOKING, WE

1:54:38LISTENED TO ALL THE COMMENTS.

1:54:39WE HEARD THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

1:54:42WE HEARD WHAT THE CHAIR HAD TO

1:54:43SAY ABOUT HIS CONCERNS ABOUT

1:54:47TERMS AND MEMBERSHIP.

1:54:47SO WE DUG INTO ALL THE FACTS

1:54:49THAT WE HAD BEFORE US AND,

1:54:51AGAIN, IN CONSULTATION WITH THE

1:54:53CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK, WE

1:54:56CAME TO REALIZE THAT A LOT OF

1:55:00CASES, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF

1:55:01BOARDS WHERE THE TERMS OF

1:55:02INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS ARE

1:55:03CONSISTENT WITH THAT OF THE

1:55:06APPOINTING PERSON, BODY, OR

1:55:08MAYOR.

1:55:08AND ALSO, A LOT OF THEM THAT

1:55:10DON'T.

1:55:12BUT WE DISCUSSED IT A LOT AND

1:55:14REALIZED THERE IS A VALUE IN

1:55:16RETAINING SOME INSTITUTIONAL

1:55:17KNOWLEDGE.

1:55:19YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE

1:55:21BOARDS JUST EVACUATE AT THE END

1:55:23OF A TERM WITHOUT THERE BEING

1:55:26SOME PROCESS FOR A TURNOVER THAT

1:55:28ALLOWS THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO

1:55:29DO BUSINESS.

1:55:30ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR

1:55:31QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARDS LIKE

1:55:32VARIANCE REVIEW.

1:55:35WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE DIFFICULTY

1:55:36FILLING SOME POSITIONS, AND THAT

1:55:40IS EXACERBATED BY THE LIMITATION

1:55:41THAT THEY BE CITY RESIDENTS.

1:55:42I MAY HAVE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE IN

1:55:44THE CITY THAT DO A CERTAIN

1:55:46THING, AND THAT BUSINESS IS WHAT

1:55:48THEY COME TO YOU ALL THE TIME

1:55:50ABOUT.

1:55:50THEY CAN'T SIT ON A CITY BOARD

1:55:52BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A

1:55:53CONFLICT.

1:55:53IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK OUT.

1:55:56WE DO FIND SOME POSITIONS

1:55:58DIFFICULT TO FILL AND LIMITED TO

1:56:00CITY RESIDENTS.

1:56:01AGAIN, WE WANT TO HAVE A PROCESS

1:56:02TO REMOVE PEOPLE WHO ARE

1:56:06INACTIVE.

1:56:07WE DID FIND THERE IS A VALUE IN

1:56:09RETAINING INSTITUTIONAL

1:56:10KNOWLEDGE ON BOARDS.

1:56:12WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC

1:56:13AND FROM THE CHAIR THAT THERE IS

1:56:16A PREFERENCE TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL

1:56:18BOARD MEMBERS' TERMS BE

1:56:19CONSISTENT WITH THOSE OF THE

1:56:21APPOINTING BODY.

1:56:22ONE THING WE WOULD NOTE WITH

1:56:25REGARD TO THAT AND THIS IS

1:56:26ALREADY IN THE LANGUAGE IN ALL

1:56:27OF OUR BOARDS, IS YOU WANT TO

1:56:28ALLOW PEOPLE TO SERVE UNTIL

1:56:31THEIR REPLACEMENT IS CONFIRMED.

1:56:34AND THE REASON -- THERE ARE

1:56:36SEVERAL REASONS, FIRST, IT MAY

1:56:37BE HARD TO FIND SOMEBODY TO TAKE

1:56:39THAT SPOT.

1:56:39YOU MAY HAVE SOMEONE ELECTED WHO

1:56:41REALLY IS HAPPY WITH THE

1:56:43APPOINTEES ON THE BOARDS OR THEY

1:56:44DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY IDEA OF

1:56:47ANYONE DIFFERENT.

1:56:48IF MEMBERS WOULD SERVE UNTIL A

1:56:50REPLACEMENT IS CONFIRMED BUT IT

1:56:52WOULD ENSURE CONTINUITY AND THAT

1:56:54OUR BOARDS WOULD CONTINUE TO

1:56:56FUNCTION, ESPECIALLY AGAIN THE

1:56:57QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARDS.

1:57:00AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT MAYBE

1:57:03ALLOWING SOME NON-CITY COUNTY

1:57:04RESIDENTS TO SERVE ON SOME

1:57:07BOARDS.

1:57:07STANDARDIZED RULES AMONG BOARDS

1:57:09AND COMMITTEES.

1:57:09THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE DONE.

1:57:11AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON IN

1:57:13QUASI-JUDICIAL.

1:57:14ARC, VRB, BARRIO LATINO

1:57:17COMMISSION, HISTORIC

1:57:18PRESERVATION, THOSE LOCAL

1:57:19BOARDS, THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME

1:57:20RULES.

1:57:22TWEAKED FOR THAT PARTICULAR

1:57:23BOARD, OF COURSE.

1:57:24ADVISORY BOARDS, WE COULD

1:57:27STANDARDIZE THOSE RULES AS WELL

1:57:28SO THERE WOULD BE THAT

1:57:29STANDARDIZATION IN THE PROCESS

1:57:30THAT THE COUNCIL WAS LOOKING

1:57:31FOR.

1:57:33THAT BRINGS ME TO

1:57:37RECOMMENDATIONS.

1:57:39WE DISCUSSED WHAT WE MIGHT

1:57:40RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL.

1:57:41WE DISCUSSED IT WITH THE CRA

1:57:44ATTORNEY.

1:57:44OF COURSE, THEY'LL COME BACK TO

1:57:45YOU AND STAFF, THEY'LL COME BACK

1:57:47TO YOU NEXT MONTH WITH THEIR

1:57:49THOUGHTS BECAUSE THEIR BOARD

1:57:50STRUCTURE IS A LOT DIFFERENT.

1:57:52AND WE HAD MARTY IN THE LOOP ON

1:57:54ALL OF THIS THROUGHOUT THE

1:57:55PROCESS.

1:57:55OF COURSE, SULING HAS BEEN VERY

1:57:58ACTIVE.

1:57:59IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD

1:58:00AMEND THE ORDINANCES AND

1:58:01RESOLUTIONS THAT ESTABLISHED ALL

1:58:03YOUR LOCAL BOARDS THAT ARE ON

1:58:05THAT LIST TO CREATE A MEMBERSHIP

1:58:07TERM WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD

1:58:10MEMBER TERMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH

1:58:11THOSE OF THE APPOINTING BODY OR

1:58:13OFFICIAL.

1:58:13YOU JUST DID THAT WITH NRAC.

1:58:15WE HAVE THAT WITH ANOTHER BOARD.

1:58:18SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS

1:58:19PRECEDENTED AND COULD CERTAINLY

1:58:22BE DONE.

1:58:23WE WANT TO BE SURE IF YOU DO

1:58:28ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT YOU

1:58:29WOULD WANT LANGUAGE IN THAT

1:58:31ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW

1:58:34REMOVAL FOR EXCESSIVE ABSENCES.

1:58:36THEY ALL SAY IT, IF YOU MISS

1:58:37MORE THAN THREE MEETINGS, YOU

1:58:38MAY BE REMOVED FOR CAUSE, IF

1:58:40THOSE ARE UNEXCUSED.

1:58:42BUT THERE'S NO REAL WAY TO DO IT

1:58:45BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY

1:58:46IT.

1:58:46WE THOUGHT IF WE GET IN THERE,

1:58:49IN THOSE ORDINANCES AND START

1:58:51TWEAKING, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO

1:58:52TIGHTEN IT UP SO IT WOULD BE A

1:58:54FOREGONE CONCLUSION, INSTEAD OF

1:58:56YOU MAY BE REMOVED -- YOU WILL

1:58:58BE REMOVED UNLESS THERE'S SOME

1:59:00REASON WHY YOU WON'T BE.

1:59:02THESE ARE UNEXCUSED ABSENCES.

1:59:04I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

1:59:05BECAUSE WE DO HAVE MEMBERS THAT

1:59:06GO OUT FOR HEALTH-RELATED

1:59:08REASONS OR THEY GO AWAY FOR

1:59:09SEVERAL MONTHS AND THEY COME

1:59:11BACK.

1:59:11THIS WOULD BE AN UNEXCUSED

1:59:13ABSENCE, NOT JUST -- NOT ANOTHER

1:59:16TYPE OF ABSENCE.

1:59:18AGAIN, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT

1:59:20ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL MOVES

1:59:22FORWARD WITH, WE WOULD

1:59:24RECOMMEND.

1:59:24MEMBERS WOULD SERVE UNTIL A

1:59:26REPLACEMENT IS CONFIRMED BECAUSE

1:59:27WE DON'T WANT THE BOARDS TO STOP

1:59:30WORKING.

1:59:30AGAIN, CONSIDER ALLOWING

1:59:31NON-CITY RESIDENTS TO SERVE ON

1:59:33BOARDS WHERE THE PERSON HAS A

1:59:35CONNECTION TO THE CITY.

1:59:36I USED THE BARRIO AS AN EXAMPLE

1:59:39BECAUSE OF THE YBOR CITY

1:59:42CONNECTION.

1:59:42IT'S EITHER BY YOUR OFFICE -- I

1:59:44MEAN, YOUR WORK OFFICE, OR BY

1:59:45YOUR RESIDENTS.

1:59:48THOSE PEOPLE CARE AS MUCH ABOUT

1:59:49THAT COMMUNITY, WHETHER THEY

1:59:50LIVE THERE OR WORK THERE AS

1:59:52ANYONE ELSE.

1:59:54IT'S WORKED OUT VERY WELL FOR

1:59:56THE BARRIO.

1:59:57THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAME UP

1:59:59WITH VERY LATE IN OUR PROCESS IN

2:00:00DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE CHAIR

2:00:02AND OTHERS.

2:00:03CONSIDER APPOINTING AT LEAST TWO

2:00:05STANDING MEMBERS TO EACH BOARD.

2:00:07SOMEONE WHO IS ALWAYS THERE.

2:00:10WE FOUND THAT IN THE CBAC, THE

2:00:12COMMUNITY BENEFITS ADVISORY

2:00:13COMMITTEE.

2:00:15THEY HAVE TWO STANDING MEMBERS,

2:00:16AND THEN MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED

2:00:19FOR THE PROJECT.

2:00:20AND THAT GIVES THAT BOARD THAT

2:00:23CONTINUITY AS IT MOVES FORWARD.

2:00:25ALWAYS THAT INSTITUTIONAL

2:00:25KNOWLEDGE AND THAT CONTINUITY.

2:00:28AGAIN, ONCE EVERYTHING HAPPENS

2:00:30THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH YOUR

2:00:31ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION THAT

2:00:33ESTABLISHED THE BOARD, THEN WE

2:00:34COULD BRING BACK TO THOSE NEWLY

2:00:38CREATED OR NEWLY FRESH BOARDS

2:00:41STANDARDIZED RULES OF PROCEDURE

2:00:42THAT THOSE BOARDS WOULD THEN

2:00:45ADOPT THAT WOULD DEAL WITH THEIR

2:00:47DAY-TO-DAY ACTIONS AS BOARDS AND

2:00:49COMMITTEES.

2:00:51SO WE ALSO HAVE SOME NEXT STEPS.

2:00:53THE CLERK WILL CONTINUE WORKING

2:00:54WITH T AND I OR STANDARDIZED

2:00:56APPOINTMENT AND MEMBER TRACKING

2:00:57PROCESS.

2:00:58THIS THING HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS

2:00:59FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS.

2:01:00IT'S IN VERY GOOD SHAPE RIGHT

2:01:02NOW.

2:01:03AGAIN, THE APPLICATION, IT'S

2:01:05IMMINENT THAT IT WILL BE UPDATED

2:01:07TO STATE THE APPLICANT'S

2:01:08QUALIFICATIONS.

2:01:09SO AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD JUST

2:01:12LOOK FOR AND MAYBE NOT TODAY

2:01:13SINCE THE CHAIR IS NOT HERE AND

2:01:16OTHERS, WE WOULD LOOK FOR

2:01:18COUNCIL DIRECTION ON COUNCIL

2:01:19AMENDING RULES TO ESTABLISH THE

2:01:21TIMELINE FOR APPLICATIONS AND

2:01:23AMENDING THE LOCAL ORDINANCE AND

2:01:26RESOLUTIONS TO ESTABLISH THE

2:01:27TERMS WHERE INDIVIDUAL BOARD

2:01:28MEMBERS' TERMS ARE CONSISTENT

2:01:29WITH THOSE OF THE APPOINTING

2:01:31OFFICIAL OR BODY.

2:01:33THINK ABOUT STANDING MEMBERS TO

2:01:35EACH BOARD OR COMMITTEE, HOW WE

2:01:37COULD STRENGTHEN LANGUAGE TO

2:01:38REMOVE BOARD MEMBERS FOR

2:01:39EXCESSIVE ABSENCE, AND WHETHER

2:01:42OR NOT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS

2:01:44NON-CITY COUNTY RESIDENTS TO

2:01:45SERVE ON BOARDS WHERE THAT

2:01:48PERSON HAS A CONNECTION TO THE

2:01:49CITY.

2:01:49AGAIN, UNDER NEXT STEPS, THE

2:01:51STANDARDIZED RULES OF PROCEDURE

2:01:53FOR OUR ADVISORY BOARDS WILL

2:01:54COME BACK TO THOSE BOARDS AFTER

2:01:56WE'VE DONE ANY NECESSARY

2:02:01AMENDMENTS.

2:02:01THAT'S WHAT I BRING TO YOU

2:02:02TODAY.

2:02:04>>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU GO BACK

2:02:05ONE SLIDE SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE

2:02:07COMMENTS, THE DIRECTION THERE?

2:02:08I WANT TO START WITH COUNCILMAN

2:02:10MANISCALCO.

2:02:11>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.

2:02:11I WANTED TO SEE THAT LAST SLIDE.

2:02:13IN REGARDS TO TIMELINE, I THINK

2:02:16IT SHOULD BE OPEN 45 OR 60 DAYS,

2:02:19BUT WELL ADVERTISED TO MAKE SURE

2:02:21THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THERE ARE

2:02:23VACANCIES ON BOARDS AND

2:02:25OPPORTUNITIES.

2:02:27SO A TIMELINE SO IT'S NOT JUST

2:02:28WIDE OPEN, SO WE KNOW WE HAVE A

2:02:30DEADLINE TO MEET TO FILL THE

2:02:32POSITIONS.

2:02:32NUMBER ONE.

2:02:34TERM WHERE INDIVIDUAL BOARD

2:02:35MEMBERS' TERMS ARE CONSISTENT

2:02:36WITH THOSE OF THE APPOINTING

2:02:38BODY OFFICIAL, A LOT OF PEOPLE

2:02:40WON'T -- YOU KNOW, THERE IS A

2:02:42CHANGE HERE COMING IN THE

2:02:43SPRING.

2:02:43SO A LOT OF MEMBERS WON'T BE ON

2:02:45THE DAIS.

2:02:48BUT I DON'T THINK THOSE THAT ARE

2:02:49APPOINTED SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY

2:02:51BE REMOVED.

2:02:52MAY 1st AT WHATEVER.

2:02:57THEY SHOULD STAY ON THAT BOARD

2:02:58GOING INTO THE NEXT TERM, AND

2:03:01THEN WHOEVER FILLS THAT

2:03:03POSITION, I THINK YOU MENTIONED

2:03:06THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER CAN SAY

2:03:08I'LL KEEP THIS PERSON OR THANK

2:03:09YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, I HAVE

2:03:11ANOTHER PREFERENCE, SO WE DON'T

2:03:12HAVE A LOSS OF A QUORUM AND

2:03:14THESE BOARDS DON'T MEET.

2:03:17STANDING MEMBERS TO EACH BOARD

2:03:19OR COMMITTEE, YOU HAD MENTIONED

2:03:20TWO.

2:03:20YOU ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE THERE.

2:03:23REMOVAL OF BOARD MEMBERS FOR

2:03:24EXCESSIVE ABSENCE, I THINK THE

2:03:26WORD THERE IS UNEXCUSED BECAUSE

2:03:29THERE ARE LEGITIMATE REASONS AS

2:03:30TO WHY PEOPLE CAN'T BE THERE.

2:03:32WHEN I WAS ON THE CODE

2:03:33ENFORCEMENT BOARD, I WAS AN

2:03:34ALTERNATE, BUT I WAS THERE FOR

2:03:36ALMOST EVERY MEETING, BECAUSE

2:03:38THERE WAS ALWAYS AN OPEN SEAT.

2:03:40NOW, WHETHER NON-CITY-COUNTY

2:03:41RESIDENTS CAN SERVE ON BOARDS

2:03:43WHERE THERE IS A CONNECTION TO

2:03:43THE CITY, AT FIRST I THOUGHT,

2:03:45WELL, IF MY WIFE WERE HERE, SHE

2:03:47WOULD SAY, YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN

2:03:48YOUR DISTRICT.

2:03:49YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY

2:03:51WHERE IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO

2:03:53LIVE.

2:03:53EVERYBODY ELSE SHOULD FOLLOW THE

2:03:54SAME RULES.

2:03:55HOWEVER, THE CONNECTION TO THE

2:03:57CITY COULD BE WHAT?

2:03:58SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN THE COUNTY

2:04:00BUT OWNS PROPERTY IN THE CITY,

2:04:01MEANING THEY ARE PAYING TAXES

2:04:02THAT GO TO THE CITY, NOT JUST

2:04:04COUNTY TAXES, THEY ARE

2:04:06CONTRIBUTING IN SOME WAY, SO

2:04:06THEY HAVE THAT CITY CONNECTION.

2:04:09YOU HAD HAD THE BARRIO LATINO,

2:04:10THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER BOARDS.

2:04:14NOW, WHAT ABOUT FORMER CITY

2:04:16EMPLOYEES THAT MAY LIVE IN THE

2:04:16COUNTY THAT WANT TO BE ON

2:04:18BOARDS?

2:04:21TO ESTABLISH SOME KIND OF

2:04:22PARAMETERS, I KNOW IT'S SIX

2:04:23YEARS TO BECOME VESTED.

2:04:26MEANING, IT CAN'T BE JUST

2:04:27ANYBODY.

2:04:27SOMEBODY THAT WORKED HERE FOR

2:04:28SIX MONTHS, LIVES IN THE COUNTY,

2:04:30HEY, CITY EMPLOYEE FOR A BRIEF

2:04:32PERIOD OF TIME, I THINK IT

2:04:33SHOULD BE A VESTED INDIVIDUAL,

2:04:35MEANING SOMEBODY AFTER SIX YEARS

2:04:36OR GOING TO BE COLLECT OR THEY

2:04:37DO COLLECT A PENSION, THAT IS A

2:04:39CONNECTION TO THE CITY WHERE YOU

2:04:41HAVE THAT MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, YOU

2:04:43HAVE TO BE VESTED HAVE TO BE

2:04:45HERE SIX YEARS SO IT OPENS IT

2:04:47UP.

2:04:48IT PUTS STRICTER GUIDELINES BUT

2:04:50OPENS IT UP TO SOMEBODY WHO

2:04:51LIVES IN THE COUNTY OR LIVES IN

2:04:53ANOTHER COUNTY.

2:04:53THEY MIGHT LIVE IN PINELLAS.

2:04:54THEY MIGHT LIVE IN PASCO,

2:04:56WHATEVER.

2:04:57BUT THEY HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE

2:04:59CITY FOR A SPECIFIC BOARD THAT

2:05:00COULD BE VERY VALUABLE, BECAUSE

2:05:03WE TALKED ABOUT INSTITUTIONAL

2:05:05KNOWLEDGE.

2:05:06THAT PERFECT APPLICANT MAY NOT

2:05:07LIVE IN THE CITY OR THEY LIVED

2:05:08IN THE CITY AND THEN WHEN THEY

2:05:10RETIRED THEY MOVED OUT SOMEWHERE

2:05:12ELSE.

2:05:12BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO SERVE

2:05:14AND COME IN.

2:05:15THEY COULD PROVIDE A LOT OF

2:05:17CONTEXT AND THEIR EXPERIENCE.

2:05:21YEAH, THAT'S REALLY IT.

2:05:21THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

2:05:22THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS.

2:05:24>>LYNN HURTAK: COUNCILMAN

2:05:24CARLSON.

2:05:29>>BILL CARLSON: I'LL DO THE SAME

2:05:31THING.

2:05:32I'LL START WITH A SUGGESTION.

2:05:33YOU CAN COMMENT ON WHATEVER YOU

2:05:35WANT AFTERWARDS.

2:05:35I THINK I'VE SAID THIS MANY

2:05:37TIMES.

2:05:37I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A GENERAL

2:05:40STATED RULE THAT ANY NEW

2:05:46COMMITTEE WILL HAVE SEVEN

2:05:47APPOINTEES BY CITY COUNCIL,

2:05:48MEANING ONE PER COUNCIL MEMBER,

2:05:50AND THEN FOUR BY THE MAYOR.

2:05:52AND THEN IT COULD SAY, UNLESS

2:05:55MUTUALLY -- UNLESS CHANGED

2:05:57THROUGH MUTUAL AGREEMENT BY THE

2:05:59MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS

2:06:00EASY TO GET.

2:06:01IT SETS UP THE EXPECTATION THAT

2:06:02THERE IS A BALANCE.

2:06:04I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE

2:06:07GEOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY REPRESENTED

2:06:08ON THESE BOARDS, AND EVERY CITY

2:06:10COUNCIL MEMBER COMES FROM A

2:06:13DIFFERENT PLACE AND THEY CAN

2:06:14PICK PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT

2:06:19BACKGROUNDS.

2:06:22AND THEN FOR THE TERM, THERE

2:06:24AREN'T THAT MANY SO FAR THAT WE

2:06:26APPOINT ONE PERSON.

2:06:28IT'S USUALLY FROM A BUCKET OF

2:06:30NAMES.

2:06:32I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT WOULD BE

2:06:34AN ANNUAL -- ON THOSE, IT WOULD

2:06:36BE AN ANNUAL RENEWAL.

2:06:41IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO EITHER

2:06:46RENEW THE PERSON OR PICK A NEW

2:06:50PERSON.

2:06:50IF SOMEONE SERVES A FOUR-YEAR

2:06:52TERM, THEY COULD PUT FOUR PEOPLE

2:06:54IN CONCEIVABLY, INSTEAD OF TWO,

2:06:55IF IT IS A TWO-YEAR TERM, AND IF

2:06:57THE PERSON IS NOT WORKING ON OR

2:07:00CONTRIBUTING, THEN THEY DON'T

2:07:02HAVE TO PUNISH THEM BY TAKING

2:07:04THEM OFF.

2:07:04THEY CAN JUST NOT RENEW THEM.

2:07:12ON ATTENDANCE, I THINK THREE

2:07:15TIMES IS ENOUGH, BUT THERE'S GOT

2:07:17TO BE REALLY TIGHT RULES ABOUT

2:07:21WHAT COUNTS AS AN EXCUSED

2:07:23ABSENCE AND WHO GIVES THAT AND

2:07:24WHO WOULD MAKE THE DECISION, WHO

2:07:26WOULD INFORM THEM THEY ARE NO

2:07:27LONGER ALLOWED ON?

2:07:30IDEALLY, IT WOULD BE SULING.

2:07:31LET SULING DO IT.

2:07:34BUT SOMEBODY WITH AN IRON FIST

2:07:36THAT CAN GO IN AND SAY, HEY,

2:07:38SORRY, YOU MISSED IT.

2:07:39YOU'RE DONE.

2:07:40AND THEN HERE IS A QUESTION,

2:07:42PROBABLY MY COLLEAGUES WON'T

2:07:43AGREE, WE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE,

2:07:46INCLUDING ONE OF MY APPOINTEES,

2:07:49WHO FILED TO RUN FOR OFFICE.

2:07:52I THINK THAT -- FOR ME THAT IS A

2:07:56AN INFLECTION POINT WHERE WE

2:07:56SHOULD GET A DIFFERENT PERSON.

2:08:00WHETHER OFFICIAL OR NOT, IT IS

2:08:01AN IDEA.

2:08:02IF THEY SERVED ALREADY, JUST SO

2:08:05IT DOESN'T LOOK POLITICAL, NO

2:08:07POLITICAL CONFLICTS.

2:08:08AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, FOR

2:08:11REGULAR COMMITTEES, DO YOU ALLOW

2:08:13REMOTE ACCESS?

2:08:14YOU DON'T.

2:08:15>>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: NO.

2:08:16WE DO NOT ON OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL

2:08:21COMMITTEES, THEY ARE ALL IN

2:08:23PERSON.

2:08:23WITH REGARD TO ADVISORY BOARDS,

2:08:26IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE BOARD

2:08:27CAN AGREE TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO

2:08:31PARTICIPATE REMOTELY IF THERE'S

2:08:34A REASON.

2:08:34THEY ARE HOME SICK, OUT OF TOWN

2:08:38FOR ADVISORY COMMITTEES.

2:08:39ALL THE QUASI-JUDICIAL, WE HAVE

2:08:41IN-PERSON QUORUM, IN-PERSON

2:08:43ATTENDANCE.

2:08:46>>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

2:08:47I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS.

2:08:48BUT I'M GOING TO START BY SAYING

2:08:51THIS IS WHY PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER

2:08:54EACH ITEM AND BEFORE DECISIONS

2:08:55ARE MADE IS IMPORTANT IN A

2:08:57WORKSHOP BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO

2:08:59MAKE SOME DECISIONS, AND THEN

2:09:01WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COME

2:09:02UP AND TALK.

2:09:03I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

2:09:07I'M GOING TO VOICE MY OBJECTION

2:09:10BECAUSE NOW OUR NEW RULE IS

2:09:11PEOPLE ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO SPEAK

2:09:14AT WORKSHOPS AT THE VERY END.

2:09:15I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S

2:09:19CORRECT.

2:09:19I'M THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

2:09:20>>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY,

2:09:21CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

2:09:22THE PURPOSE OF A WORKSHOP IS TO

2:09:24GET INFORMATION.

2:09:27AND TO ULTIMATELY NOT TAKE ANY

2:09:29FINAL ACTION ON SOMETHING.

2:09:31SO IF YOU WISH TO -- I'LL ALSO

2:09:35POINT OUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO

2:09:37COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT THERE

2:09:38ARE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT

2:09:40TODAY.

2:09:41SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO

2:09:43NOT TAKE FINAL ACTION -- OR NOT

2:09:45TO TAKE ACTION TODAY ON THIS

2:09:48MATTER UNLESS COUNCIL INSISTS,

2:09:50BUT THEN STILL HAVE ANOTHER

2:09:52OPPORTUNITY FOR THE REMAINING

2:09:53MEMBERS TO COME IN AND GIVE

2:09:55INPUT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY --

2:09:59BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE

2:10:01PURPOSE OF A WORKSHOP IS

2:10:03INFORMATION ONLY.

2:10:03AND NOT TO MAKE MOTIONS TO GIVE

2:10:07ACTION TO COUNCIL, TO THE STAFF

2:10:09THAT WOULD BE PERCEIVED AS A

2:10:11FINAL ACTION, BECAUSE YOU'RE

2:10:13CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT.

2:10:14YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

2:10:16YOU WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE THE

2:10:17OPPORTUNITY TO HEARD.

2:10:18IF YOU WISH TO OPEN PUBLIC

2:10:19COMMENT ON IT NOW, I GUESS

2:10:22THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.

2:10:23>>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, THOUGH,

2:10:23WHAT I'M SAYING, THE BPAC, THE

2:10:28CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, WOULD

2:10:29HAVE BEEN GETTING INFORMATION

2:10:30FROM THE PUBLIC.

2:10:33MY PLAN TODAY IS TO ANSWER THESE

2:10:35QUESTIONS ON DIRECTION AND THEN

2:10:37ADDITIONALLY ASK AND MAKE SURE

2:10:39THAT THEY SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL

2:10:40MEMBERS WHO AREN'T HERE TODAY

2:10:42AND GET THEIR DIRECTION.

2:10:43I DON'T WANT TO STOP ANYTHING

2:10:45JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T HERE

2:10:47TODAY.

2:10:49>>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, WITH

2:10:50REGARD TO THIS, WE HAVE NOT

2:10:52TALKED ABOUT, I AS PART OF THE

2:10:54MOTION HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THE

2:10:55FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

2:10:56>>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE NOT LOOKING

2:10:57FOR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

2:10:58>>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN WHAT

2:11:00DIRECTION ARE YOU PLANNING ON

2:11:01GIVING?

2:11:01>>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS WHAT THEY

2:11:02ASKED FOR.

2:11:02THEY ASKED FOR DIRECTION ON

2:11:04AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL RULES.

2:11:05THEY ARE BASICALLY ASKING OUR

2:11:06OPINION.

2:11:06AND AFTER THE OPINION, WE'LL

2:11:09HAVE A NEXT STEP AND WE'LL TALK

2:11:11ABOUT THAT.

2:11:12BUT THANK YOU.

2:11:12>>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.

2:11:13WELL, I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR

2:11:14AMENDING COUNCIL'S RULES.

2:11:16I'M NOT PREPARED TO TAKE

2:11:18DIRECTION TODAY.

2:11:18>>LYNN HURTAK: I DID NOT SAY

2:11:19THAT.

2:11:19I SAID THIS IS MY COMMENT.

2:11:21MY COMMENT IS THAT PUBLIC

2:11:23COMMENT SHOULD HAPPEN AFTER

2:11:25EVERY ONE AND THIS IS WHY.

2:11:26THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS

2:11:28MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

2:11:29I JUST WANT MY FELLOW COUNCIL

2:11:31MEMBERS TO LISTEN BECAUSE I

2:11:32THINK WE ALL CAN HEAR THAT TODAY

2:11:34THAT WE DIDN'T GET TO HEAR FROM

2:11:35EVERYBODY ABOUT THE BPAC AND NOT

2:11:40GOING TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY

2:11:40ABOUT THIS.

2:11:41I'M NOT GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC

2:11:43COMMENT FOR ONLY ONE THING.

2:11:45THAT'S NOT FAIR.

2:11:46>>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW I

2:11:46UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT,

2:11:48COUNCILWOMAN.

2:11:48I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND ACCEPT

2:11:49THAT.

2:11:50COUNCIL'S RULES ARE COUNCIL'S

2:11:51RULES AND THEY ARE SUBJECT TO

2:11:52AMENDMENT AND CHANGE.

2:11:53>>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THEY ARE.

2:11:54I WANT TO TALK, THOUGH, ABOUT

2:11:56WHAT YOU ASKED FOR DIRECTION ON.

2:11:59AMENDING COUNCIL RULES TO

2:12:00ESTABLISH A TIMELINE FOR

2:12:01APPLICATION, I THINK WE GO FOR

2:12:0545 DAYS.

2:12:06I THINK MAKING A DECISION ABOUT

2:12:07A NUMBER OF DAYS IS IMPORTANT.

2:12:09I WOULD JUST GO FOR 45 DAYS.

2:12:12AS FAR AS STANDING MEMBERS TO

2:12:13EACH BOARD AND COMMISSION, WHO

2:12:19GETS TO DECIDE WHO IS STANDING?

2:12:21SO I'M THINKING ABOUT MY TIME ON

2:12:23THE VRB.

2:12:25THE VRB HAS VERY SPECIFIC ROLES.

2:12:28ARE WE GOING TO SAY THAT A

2:12:30BUILDER SHOULD GET STANDING?

2:12:32I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.

2:12:33WE'D HAVE TO REALLY BE CAREFUL

2:12:35ABOUT WHO YOU APPROVE FOR

2:12:39STANDING.

2:12:39MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT

2:12:41ROTATES AND THAT STANDING IS TWO

2:12:44YEARS OR STANDING IS THREE

2:12:46YEARS.

2:12:46YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME

2:12:48PARAMETERS AROUND THAT BECAUSE

2:12:49FOR THE VRB, THERE IS NO LIKE

2:12:51OPEN MEMBERSHIP.

2:12:52THE ONLY ONES ARE NEIGHBORHOOD

2:12:54LEADERS.

2:12:55I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD

2:12:58ACTIVISTS, BUT I DON'T

2:12:59NECESSARILY THINK THOSE SHOULD

2:13:00BE PEOPLE WITH STANDING EITHER.

2:13:01IF YOU HAVE A COMMISSION WHERE

2:13:05EVERY SEAT HAS A SPECIFIED SEAT,

2:13:07YOU MAY NEED TO -- LIKE I SAID,

2:13:11I WOULD ROTATE THAT.

2:13:14AS FAR AS THE TERM WHERE THE

2:13:16INDIVIDUAL BOARDS ARE CONSISTENT

2:13:18WITH THOSE TO THE APPOINTING

2:13:20BODY, I TEND TO AGREE.

2:13:22I THINK MORE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER

2:13:26MANISCALCO THAT -- I THINK WE

2:13:27SHOULD HAVE THEM CONSISTENT, BUT

2:13:30ALSO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE

2:13:35CHANGED.

2:13:35THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD

2:13:37COUNTER WITH COUNCIL MEMBER

2:13:39CARLSON ABOUT JUST HAVING A YEAR

2:13:40IS THAT THERE IS A HUGE LEARNING

2:13:43CURVE TO THESE COMMITTEES.

2:13:44SO BY THE TIME YOU ARE IN FOR A

2:13:46YEAR, YOU ARE BASICALLY FINALLY

2:13:48GETTING YOUR FEET UNDER YOU.

2:13:50I MIGHT HAVE A TIME WHERE YOU

2:13:51DISCUSS WITH YOUR PERSON, LIKE

2:13:53HOW IS IT GOING?

2:13:54WHAT DO YOU LIKE?

2:13:56ARE YOU INTERESTED IN STAYING

2:13:57ON?

2:13:59MORE THAN JUST DOING ONE YEAR.

2:14:02REMOVAL OF BOARD MEMBERS FOR

2:14:04EXCESSIVE ABSENCE, ABSOLUTELY A

2:14:07YES FOR UNEXCUSED ABSENCES.

2:14:09AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE AT

2:14:10THREE.

2:14:11AND I THINK WHATEVER YOU NEED TO

2:14:13DO TO TIGHTEN THE LANGUAGE, I

2:14:15THINK YOU'RE GETTING A FULL

2:14:17THING THERE.

2:14:18I AM REALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF

2:14:19NONCITIZENS SERVING ON BOARDS.

2:14:22I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT

2:14:25THAT YOU HAVE -- IT'S REALLY

2:14:27HARD TO EVEN SAY IF YOU OWN

2:14:29PROPERTY -- WELL, IF YOU OWN

2:14:33PROPERTY, YOU'RE STILL NOT

2:14:34DEALING WITH MOST OF THE STUFF

2:14:35THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY ON

2:14:37A DAILY BASIS.

2:14:38I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

2:14:40IF I I HAD, MY ONLY LINE, NOT

2:14:42JUST OWNING PROPERTY BUT OWNING

2:14:44A BUSINESS.

2:14:44I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE TO DO

2:14:45BOTH.

2:14:46SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME REAL OR

2:14:50OWNING PROPERTY AND BEING A

2:14:51VESTED FORMER EMPLOYEE OR OWNING

2:14:54A BUSINESS AND BEING A VESTED.

2:14:56I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE TWO.

2:14:58IF WE CAME UP WITH THREE OR FOUR

2:15:00WAYS, YOU SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE

2:15:03TWO OF THOSE.

2:15:03I THINK THE CONNECTION TO THE

2:15:05CITY HAS TO BE INCREDIBLY STRONG

2:15:08AND HAS TO BE SOMETHING WHERE

2:15:09YOU ARE IN THE CITY EVERY DAY.

2:15:12I THINK THAT'S JUST REALLY

2:15:14CRITICAL.

2:15:15WE HAVE 400,000 PEOPLE IN THE

2:15:17CITY.

2:15:17IF WE COULD GET PEOPLE TO SERVE

2:15:19ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHEN

2:15:20WE HAD A HUNDRED THOUSAND, I

2:15:23THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS WE

2:15:24DON'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB IN

2:15:27ADVERTISING.

2:15:27WE DON'T PUSH THIS OUT TO CIVIC

2:15:30ORGANIZATIONS.

2:15:30WE SHOULD BE PUSHING IT OUT TO

2:15:34EVERY POSSIBLE GROUP.

2:15:34WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT

2:15:36VOLUNTEER IN THE CITY FOR SO

2:15:38MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

2:15:39I REALLY BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE

2:15:40JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN

2:15:41SERVE ON A BOARD AND/OR THEY

2:15:43DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ARE

2:15:44QUALIFIED.

2:15:45THEY FEEL LIKE IT IS THIS BIG

2:15:46THING.

2:15:47AND FOR HALF OF THESE BOARDS,

2:15:48IT'S NOT A QUALIFICATION ISSUE.

2:15:51SO LET'S DO A BETTER JOB AT

2:15:53GETTING SOME NUMBERS OUT BEFORE

2:15:55WE GO OUTSIDE OF THE 400,000

2:15:57PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE.

2:16:00COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I SAW YOUR

2:16:01LIGHT POP ON?

2:16:02>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH

2:16:04MOSTLY EVERYTHING YOU SAID,

2:16:04ALONG WITH EVERYONE THAT SPOKE,

2:16:05THE THREE BEFORE ME.

2:16:06I THINK THEY HAVE SOME GOOD

2:16:08THINGS.

2:16:08THE TERMS ABOUT BOARD MEMBERS,

2:16:10IF YOU ARE NOT HERE, THEN THEY

2:16:12GOT TO LEAVE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T

2:16:16THINK SO.

2:16:17LET'S SAY WE APPOINT SOMEBODY

2:16:19NOW AND SOME OF US ARE NOT HERE

2:16:21AND AFTER MARCH, DOES THAT MEAN

2:16:22THAT INDIVIDUAL, HE OR SHE IS

2:16:25OUT OF THE BOARD AUTOMATICALLY?

2:16:28>>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: IN

2:16:30RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, IF

2:16:31YOU APPOINT SOMEONE FOR THE

2:16:32REMAINDER OF YOUR TERM AND THEY

2:16:34DO THE ORIENTATION AND THEY

2:16:35NEVER COME BACK, THEN YOUR

2:16:37QUESTION IS, WOULD THEY BE

2:16:39AUTOMATICALLY OUT IN MARCH?

2:16:42THEY WOULD REMOVE -- UNDER THE

2:16:45PERFECT-WORLD SCENARIO, THEY

2:16:46WOULD CONTINUE TO SERVE UNTIL

2:16:48THEIR REPLACEMENT IS CONFIRMED.

2:16:50SO YOUR SUCCESSOR THEN OR YOU,

2:16:53WHOEVER IS SITTING IN THE SEAT

2:16:54IN MARCH, WOULD THEN APPOINT

2:16:57SOMEONE ELSE.

2:16:58BECAUSE NOW IT'S A NEW TERM.

2:17:01A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER TERM.

2:17:04BUT THEY WOULDN'T AUTOMATICALLY

2:17:06JUST DROP --

2:17:07>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE DON'T DO

2:17:07IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

2:17:09DO WE?

2:17:10>>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: NO.

2:17:11IF --

2:17:11>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND

2:17:12WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

2:17:13LET ME PUT IT THE OTHER WAY.

2:17:17IF THAT RULE STANDS, THE

2:17:18INCOMING PERSON, WHOEVER HE OR

2:17:20SHE IS, CAN STILL HAVE THAT

2:17:22PERSON?

2:17:22>>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: YES, THEY

2:17:23WOULD STILL HAVE THEIR SEAT

2:17:24UNTIL THEY ARE REMOVED.

2:17:26>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: UNLESS YOU

2:17:27PUT IT IN WRITING.

2:17:28>>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: YES.

2:17:30UNLESS WE TWEAK THE ENABLING

2:17:31ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THEM TO BE

2:17:33REMOVED.

2:17:33>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.

2:17:36>>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I WOULD

2:17:37TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN

2:17:39MIRANDA.

2:17:41SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE IN THERE

2:17:42FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THEN MAYBE

2:17:44GET TO KNOW THAT PERSON AND SEE

2:17:46IF THERE IS SOMEBODY ELSE YOU

2:17:47WOULD WANT.

2:17:50OKAY.

2:17:50MY SECOND REQUEST IS GOING TO BE

2:17:52THAT YOU REACH OUT TO THE THREE

2:17:53COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE

2:17:55UNAVAILABLE TODAY AND MAKE SURE

2:17:56YOU GET THEIR ANSWERS TO THIS

2:17:59QUESTION.

2:17:59AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS I

2:18:01WILL ASK YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE

2:18:03CHAIR TO SET THIS ON A

2:18:07SUBSEQUENT MEETING JUST BECAUSE

2:18:09I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO

2:18:11HAPPEN.

2:18:11I KNOW THE CHAIR IS ON IT, SO

2:18:13I'M NOT CONCERNED AT ALL.

2:18:15THIS WILL BE A MOMENT, THOUGH,

2:18:18FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

2:18:19SO NOW THAT WE ARE FINISHED WITH

2:18:21THIS -- AND THIS IS WHY.

2:18:24I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE IDEA

2:18:27OF BREVITY BUT I THINK IT KIND

2:18:28OF RUINS THE ENTIRE POINT OF A

2:18:30WORKSHOP IF WE CAN'T HEAR FROM

2:18:31-- I MIGHT MAKE THAT MOTION

2:18:33TONIGHT, BUT I MIGHT MAKE THAT

2:18:34MOTION NEXT WEEK TO RECONSIDER

2:18:38THESE RULES BECAUSE I DON'T

2:18:38THINK THEY ARE SERVING THE

2:18:40PURPOSE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO

2:18:42SERVE.

2:18:42IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON

2:18:44PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS 3 AND

2:18:484, PLEASE COME UP AND WE WOULD

2:18:49BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU.

2:18:51I SEE I HAVE ONE PERSON.

2:18:52I THINK THE OTHER TWO MIGHT BE

2:18:55JUST LISTENING.

2:18:56IF NOT, THEY CAN COME UP AS

2:18:57WELL.

2:19:00MS. POYNOR, I LOVE YOUR SHIRT.

2:19:02>> THANK YOU.

2:19:05IT'S NOT AS FUN FROM THE FRONT

2:19:08UNTIL YOU READ THE BACK.

2:19:10[ LAUGHTER ]

2:19:13I'VE HAD IT FOR A LONG TIME.

2:19:15>>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU TURN

2:19:17AROUND AGAIN?

2:19:17NOW YOU ARE ON TV.

2:19:19>> OH, NOW I'M ON TV.

2:19:24ANYWAY, I HAD IT A LONG TIME.

2:19:25I KEPT FORGETTING TO WEAR IT.

2:19:27GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.

2:19:29EVERY SINGLE COMMITTEE AND THIS

2:19:30NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN INTO THE

2:19:31RULES, NEEDS A BABYSITTER.

2:19:33THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO

2:19:35GUIDES THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.

2:19:37THEY DON'T HAVE A BABYSITTER,

2:19:39THEN THEY ARE WANDERING

2:19:40AIMLESSLY.

2:19:41THE BUDGET COMMITTEE WHEN I

2:19:43STARTED IN 2021, WE HAD SEVERAL

2:19:47BABYSITTERS OVER TIME.

2:19:49WE ARE PRETTY SETTLED IN NOW.

2:19:51I WOULD AGREE THAT THE FIRST

2:19:52YEAR ON A COMMITTEE, I MEAN THE

2:19:54FIRST YEAR ON THE BUDGET

2:19:55COMMITTEE, I PROBABLY DIDN'T SAY

2:19:58BOO, NOT MUCH AT ALL BECAUSE

2:20:01IT'S SO COMPLICATED AND SO

2:20:03COMPLEX.

2:20:03I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT THE ONLY

2:20:04REASON THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

2:20:07TAKING SOMEBODY OFF OF A

2:20:08COMMITTEE OR A BOARD IS

2:20:13ATTENDANCE.

2:20:13BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU

2:20:14HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON

2:20:16COMMITTEES NOW WHO ARE NOT

2:20:18REPRESENTING YOU AS A BOARD.

2:20:20THEY ARE NOT DOING WHAT YOU

2:20:24WOULD DO AS A GROUP

2:20:27CONSISTENTLY.

2:20:27THAT'S NOT OKAY.

2:20:29IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT

2:20:30DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO

2:20:31BE DOING, WHAT IF THEIR BEHAVIOR

2:20:34IS INAPPROPRIATE?

2:20:35WHAT -- THERE'S NOTHING THAT

2:20:37SAYS YOU CAN REMOVE SOMEBODY.

2:20:38YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY BEEN

2:20:39THROUGH THAT WITH THE PLANNING

2:20:40COMMISSION.

2:20:41YOU HAD TO HAVE LEGAL LOOK INTO

2:20:44IF YOU COULD DISMISS SOMEBODY

2:20:46FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

2:20:48IF YOU DON'T PUT ANYTHING IN

2:20:49THERE, THEN THERE'S NO WAY TO DO

2:20:51IT.

2:20:53I ALSO HAVE SCREAMED BLOODY

2:20:54MURDER BECAUSE THE WHOLE CONCEPT

2:20:59OF SHOVING PEOPLE IN THERE FOR

2:21:00THREE OR FOUR YEARS WHEN THE

2:21:02PERSON WHO IS PUTTING THEM THERE

2:21:03IS NOT GOING TO BE AROUND IN

2:21:05THREE OR FOUR YEARS, THAT'S NOT

2:21:08APPROPRIATE.

2:21:08AND IT SHOULD BE -- I MEAN, I

2:21:09DON'T THINK IT SHOULD HAPPEN

2:21:12INSTANTANEOUSLY, BUT

2:21:13APPOINTMENTS TO COMMITTEES,

2:21:14EVERYBODY CAN RENEW SOMEBODY.

2:21:16THEY CAN KEEP THEM ON.

2:21:19THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT

2:21:20YOU HAVE TO FIRE SOMEBODY WHEN

2:21:23YOU LEAVE.

2:21:23AS A MATTER OF FACT,

2:21:25COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WHEN SHE

2:21:27CAME ON BOARD, I CONTACTED HER

2:21:30BECAUSE I WAS COUNCILMAN

2:21:34DINGFELDER'S APPOINTEE.

2:21:35WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

2:21:36SHE SAID I'M GOOD FOR NOW.

2:21:38WE'LL LEAVE IT ALONE.

2:21:39NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION SINCE.

2:21:40IT WAS HER PERSONAL DECISION TO

2:21:42KEEP ME ON.

2:21:44I THINK THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD

2:21:46BE.

2:21:46THE NEW PERSON SHOULD HAVE THAT

2:21:47OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE THEM WITH

2:21:48THEIR PERSON.

2:21:50THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF TURNOVER ON

2:21:52COUNCIL, SO THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF

2:21:54TURNOVER ON THE BUDGET

2:21:55COMMITTEE.

2:21:55I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY, IF

2:21:57YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A FORMER

2:21:59EMPLOYEE ON A COMMITTEE, THAT

2:22:00THAT PERSON NEEDS TO HAVE SOME

2:22:03KNOWLEDGE AND SOME FOUNDATION

2:22:05FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE,

2:22:06NOT JUST WILLY-NILLY THEY WORKED

2:22:08FOR THE CITY SO THEY MUST ME TO

2:22:10EVERYTHING.

2:22:11WHAT I FOUND OVER TIME IS THAT

2:22:13THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR THE

2:22:15CITY ARE VERY MYOPIC ABOUT THEIR

2:22:17OWN PERSONAL JOBS, AND THEY

2:22:19DON'T KNOW THE BREADTH OF

2:22:20EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY ELSE

2:22:21IN THE CITY DOES.

2:22:23SO DON'T JUST AUTOMATICALLY PUT

2:22:26SOMEBODY IN FOR THIS.

2:22:28YOU KNOW, I REALLY HAVE AN ISSUE

2:22:29BECAUSE I HAVE THINGS TO SAY

2:22:32ABOUT THE BIKE STUFF.

2:22:35>>LYNN HURTAK: WHICH IS WHY I

2:22:35MADE THE COMMENT.

2:22:36IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE AGREEMENT

2:22:38HERE.

2:22:39>> I COMPLETELY AGREE ON THAT.

2:22:40THANK YOU.

2:22:43>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JOSEPH

2:22:47CITRO, 33611 FOR THE RECORD.

2:22:48AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.

2:22:51COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I LIVE ON

2:22:52BAYSHORE.

2:22:53I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

2:22:54WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

2:22:58EVERY DAY THIS CITY'S POPULATION

2:23:01DOUBLES FROM PEOPLE COMING IN

2:23:03FROM PINELLAS, POLK, PASCO,

2:23:07HERNANDO, SARASOTA, MANATEE.

2:23:09IF WE CAN ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT

2:23:10TRAFFIC ON OUR ROADS, WE CAN

2:23:13MAKE OUR ROADS SAFER.

2:23:15WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS OF THIS

2:23:17COUNCIL THAT BELONG TO THE

2:23:19MPO/TPO OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

2:23:21PLEASE, USE YOUR VOICES SO WE

2:23:23CAN GET BETTER PUBLIC MASS

2:23:25TRANSPORTATION.

2:23:26COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ALL

2:23:29FATALITIES, PEDESTRIAN

2:23:29FATALITIES THAT HAVE HAPPENED ON

2:23:32BAYSHORE IS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE

2:23:35BREAKING THE LAW.

2:23:38SPEEDING, DRIVING DRUNK, DRIVING

2:23:40UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF DRUGS.

2:23:43I LEARNED FROM A VERY WISE

2:23:47TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, EXPERT

2:23:49THAT OUR BIKE LANES ARE NOT SAFE

2:23:51UNTIL WE HAVE SOME SORT OF

2:23:53PHYSICAL BARRIER, WHETHER IT BE

2:23:59A PARKING LANE WHERE CARS

2:24:01SEPARATE THEMSELVES FROM TRAFFIC

2:24:02FLOWS TO THE BIKE LANES.

2:24:05OR A CONCRETE BARRIER, MAYBE 8

2:24:09INCHES TALL.

2:24:10PEOPLE DO NOT RIDE IN THE BIKE

2:24:13LANES BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARED TO

2:24:13BE THERE.

2:24:15BARRIERS ARE NEEDED TO MAKE

2:24:17THOSE BIKE LANES SAFER.

2:24:19BUT WE HAVE A GROWING PROBLEM.

2:24:26WE HAVE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE NOW

2:24:29BEING INFILTRATED BY E-VEHICLES.

2:24:33WE'RE NOT USING HUMAN-POWERED

2:24:34VEHICLES, WHETHER IT BE

2:24:37SCOOTERS, BIKES, MONOWHEELS,

2:24:39SKATEBOARDS ON SIDEWALKS, AND

2:24:42THOSE ARE ENDANGERING

2:24:43PEDESTRIANS.

2:24:43WE HAVE E-BIKES THAT ARE NOW

2:24:46GOING 30, 40 MILES AN HOUR ON

2:24:47SIDEWALKS.

2:24:49PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO WALK ON

2:24:50SIDEWALKS NOW.

2:24:52AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.

2:24:55THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, I

2:24:56PERSONALLY SIGNED UP FOR A

2:24:58BOARD.

2:24:58I'VE BEEN ON CIVIL SERVICE

2:25:01BOARD, VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD,

2:25:02CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, CHARTER

2:25:04REVIEW BOARD.

2:25:07AND SOMEBODY WHOSE EGO WAS TOO

2:25:10BIG.

2:25:10THERE WAS ONLY SIX POSITIONS.

2:25:14SIX PEOPLE WERE THERE, INCLUDING

2:25:15MYSELF, TO BE ON THAT BOARD.

2:25:18SOMEBODY'S EGO WAS SO BIG THAT

2:25:20THEY DECIDED NOT TO APPOINT ME

2:25:21TO THAT BOARD.

2:25:23TO THE PRESENTERS, FIRST

2:25:28STATEMENT, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH

2:25:29PEOPLE TO FILL THE BOARDS.

2:25:31IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY PLEASURE

2:25:31TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD FOR THREE

2:25:35YEARS.

2:25:37AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER'S EGO WAS

2:25:38TOO BIG.

2:25:39MADAM CHAIR, BOARD, THANK YOU.

2:25:41>>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY

2:25:42MUCH.

2:25:42ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

2:25:46I THINK WE'LL HOLD NEW BUSINESS

2:25:47UNTIL EVENING, IF THAT'S OKAY.

2:25:50>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO

2:25:51MAKE A COMMENT, NOT NEW

2:25:53BUSINESS.

2:25:53WE KNOW VICTOR DiMAIO AND THE

2:25:55DiMAIO FAMILY, HIS MOTHER

2:25:57MERCY PASSED AWAY.

2:25:58I KNOW SHE WORKED FOR THE CITY.

2:26:00SHE WAS INVOLVED IN I DON'T KNOW

2:26:01HOW MANY BOARDS OVER THE YEARS.

2:26:05AND VICTOR'S FATHER, VICTOR

2:26:09SENIOR, LEGENDARY GUY, ALWAYS

2:26:11GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY,

2:26:13RUN FOR OFFICE, SERVED ON

2:26:15BOARDS, THEY HAVE DONE IT ALL.

2:26:17AND I WANT TO OFFER MY

2:26:19CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

2:26:21LIKE I TOLD VICTOR, YOUR MOTHER

2:26:23LIVED A FULL LIFETIMES TEN.

2:26:25BECAUSE MY WHOLE LIFE GROWING

2:26:27UP, SHE WAS INVOLVED IN YBOR

2:26:28CITY, WEST TAMPA, THE CITY, YOU

2:26:30NAME IT.

2:26:31SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE

2:26:32TOMORROW -- OR THERE IS A WAKE I

2:26:34BELIEVE AT 4:00 AT BOSE AND

2:26:36ROYAL ON ARMENIA FOR THOSE WHO

2:26:38WISH TO ATTEND.

2:26:39SHE LIVED A GOOD LIFE.

2:26:42SHE GAVE BACK ENDLESSLY TO THE

2:26:44COMMUNITY.

2:26:44MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.

2:26:45THAT'S IT.

2:26:46>>LYNN HURTAK: ANYONE ELSE?

2:26:47OKAY.

2:26:47WELL, THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED

2:26:49UNTIL 5:01 --

2:26:51>> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

2:26:52>>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO RECEIVE

2:26:53AND FILE BY COUNCIL MEMBER

2:26:55MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM

2:26:57COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

2:26:57ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

2:26:59AYE.

2:26:59ANY OPPOSED?

2:27:00WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 5:01 P.M.

2:27:02[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

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