2026-10-15 - City Council

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  • Council approved the agenda as amended and the consent agenda, both unanimously; a $95,000 donation to Sunken Gardens was noted. Open forum speakers addressed the city's 287(g) immigration enforcement agreement, the proposed general obligation bond, airport hangar replacement and resilience planning.
  • The mayor read a memorial tribute resolution honoring a local businessman, philanthropist and arts leader.
  • Council unanimously approved two federal-case settlements: $100,000 (a civil rights case, including attorneys' fees) and $60,000 (an employment case, including attorneys' fees and other claims).
  • The housing and community development director updated council on a HOME American Rescue Plan capacity-building grant. A nonprofit behavioral health provider reported same-day access for 1,828 new residents between January 2025 and June 2026, a 98% same-day success rate and plans for a mobile crisis van of roughly $250,000; a children's museum reported 37 free school field trips and a planned discovery center with the county schools.
  • Consent item F-4 was pulled and passed unanimously: funding for arts and cultural agencies not to exceed $557,000, covering 42 recommended FY2027 City of the Arts grants. A cited study put the sector's contribution at about $132.5 million to the local economy. See Arts and cultural agency funding.
  • Council took up the Port of St. Petersburg Master Plan (the first update since 1999, needed for state grant eligibility), with three focus areas: a maritime and defense technology innovation hub, marine maintenance and repair, and a small-cruise terminal. Revised conceptual costs rose to about $93 million to $163 million in today's dollars (from $50 million to $70 million), and staff stressed that adopting the plan does not commit the city to every element. The motion passed unanimously.
  • First-reading ordinances passed unanimously: land use and zoning changes for a 0.26-acre parcel on 4th Street North, and a vessel exclusion zone in a city park lagoon (see Coquina Key Park lagoon vessel exclusion zone).
  • Referrals: city vehicle usage and monitoring policy to the Public Services and Infrastructure Committee (passed 7-1); possible amendments to the Intown Redevelopment Plan to the Budget, Finance and Taxation Committee; and a possible historic preservation master plan task force to the Committee of the Whole (both unanimous). A prior AI-permitting referral was broadened into a citywide AI adoption discussion.
  • Council supported creating a resilience advisory committee (unanimous) and a general obligation bond advisory committee (7-1); see General Obligation Bond Referral. A resolution supporting the Resilient by Nature program also passed.
  • Council approved code amendments raising residential and downtown parking permit penalties and fees and the boot-removal charge, and updating brush disposal site penalties with an appeal process; both passed unanimously with one absence.
  • An ordinance extending the SunRunner BRT overlay intensity distance from a quarter-mile to a half-mile passed with one absence and one recusal (see Transit Oriented Development Overlay). Two 7th Avenue South right-of-way vacations also passed.
  • A quasi-judicial land use and rezoning request for a 0.43-acre parcel (about 33 one-bedroom units planned) was heard, and a separate request to allow up to three-story development near 34th Street was discussed with concerns about commercial encroachment and the Live Local Act's density effect; the motion to approve failed on a 4-4 tie.
  • Council heard an appeal of a planning commission denial for a six-story self-storage facility on a 1.08-acre parcel near MLK Street South and Booker Creek. Staff recommended denial (suburban use, inconsistent with the activity center, spot zoning, lot width about 108 feet against a 200-foot requirement); the applicant cited market demand. Council members raised environmental and spot-zoning concerns. The motion to grant the appeal failed, upholding the denial as final agency action; a supermajority of six was required to reverse.
  • The next council meeting was set for Nov. 5.

Agenda

Arts and cultural agency funding ($557,000), Ordinance 654-H vessel exclusion zone at Coquina Key Park lagoon, Port of St. Petersburg Master Plan, committee reports including a Resilience Advisory Committee resolution.

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>> Welcome to the city of St. Petersburg City Council meeting and your elected officials our mayor Ken well. District one hopefully Curtis. District 2 Brendan Gallagher. District 3 my party. District

4 and Council chair Lisette can away. District 5 ever think Sanders. Gina Driscoll. Were you given Stu year. And and Council vice chair reaching Floyd. >> Everyone welcome to the Oct. 15th, 2026 City

Council meeting clerk can I please have a roll call gabbard Harding here Hannah what's here. Sanders. Today we're going to have our invocation given by district 7 councilmember Corey Givens junior, if

you can stand and then please remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. >> Let us bow our heads but lift our hearts o GOD, our creator are sustain our guy. We stand before you today at a critical

crossroads in our history in the chambers of decision-making we thank you for the privilege of leadership, but we ask you today to give us wisdom to serve lastly Lord remind us as a council today that

leadership. It's not about the privilege of the position but about the purpose of the people and help us remember that the true measure of our greatness is not found in the height of our skyscrapers

now on the wealth of our downtowns but and those who treat others at the bottom as if they are they on teach us today, how to lead. Not by our wheel but by that I will we ask right now that you give

right now power to the powerless voice to the voiceless but us guide right now those who need direction. Help us right now as we serve of touch, each council member and Mayor each staff member and

each person who was gathered here today as we endeavor to do justice love mercifully and to walk humbly in Jesus name we pray, a man Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag. And to public which it

stands. With liberty and justice for all. Thank you MAY be seated. Thank you councilmember given for the future. Patients. >> Here we have an agenda for us we have an edition of the one of the

resolution the more a tribute to the lead words and the addition of h 2 h 3 and h 4 which are the Oct. 15th, 20 27st committee action items doesn't. Motion to approve as amended. Second clerk if you

can open the machine for voting council members please enter your vote seen that all present council members have voted clerk please tally announce the vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve the

agenda passes unanimously. >> Thank you we have a consent agenda. Do we any cards we do not MADAM Chair, okay Reuben second the motion second the only thing I want to know on the consent agenda was

the sunken gardens forever Foundation that have a donation of $95,000 to sunken gardens which I think is fantastic is a 5, 1, 3, c that was founded back in 36. And it's dedicated to supporting and

enhancing something gardens so what they do is. We don't have to pay for it if then through donations so it's always a wonderful thing so. So we have a motion a second clerk if you can open the

machine for voting council members please enter your votes seeing that are present council members have voted clerk please telling announce the vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve the consent

agenda passes unanimously. Thank you. Next up we have open forum. We have speakers and if so can you please read the rules. We do have some speakers, MADAM Chair. If you wish to address City Council

and subjects other than public hearing a quasi-judicial items listed on the agenda. He signed up with the clerk. Only the individual wishing to speak by Simon open farm ship in a city residents.

Owners of property, the business owners in the city or their employees MAY speak. All issues discussed and are open for must be limited issues related to this city of St. Petersburg government. If

you're speaking to an item on the agenda you MAY only speak once during the open forum. When the item comes up on the agenda. Applause is not permitted except in connection with a with presentations

in order to provide an opportunity for all citizens to drink to address Council each individual would be given 3 minutes to speak and after which the microphone will be needed. If you wish to address

City Council through the zoom meeting. You must use the hand raise feature bad app entrust our 9 on your phone. At the time the agenda item is addressed. What is your turn to speak he will be a new

did and asked to state your name and address at the conclusion of your comments when you have reached a 3 minute time limit. You would be needed are raise hands will be lowered after each agenda item

regardless of the method of participation use normal rules apply, including the 3 minute time limit on comments. The requirement that any presentation materials must be submitted in advance of the

meeting and the rules of decorum that's why public comments is disrupted my violation. The rules of decorum the chairs authorized to accept public comments. My alternate means including by email to

MADAM Chair, we do have some speakers. Thank you. Political 2 speakers at a time. Please go to an open road and state your name address across Street for the record you have 3 minutes to address City

Council. First 2 speakers arlinda Stoller and Roger covid. >> Good morning. I'm Linda Stoller my address is 7 oh one mayor Lake drive. St. Petersburg I'm reading a proclamation to end all cooperation

of local law enforcement with ice 8 the age. The Pinellas coalition fee human rights and to end 2.87 g in solidarity with the talk to the sheriff initiative. It's a local accountability campaign

focused on ending law enforcement cooperation with ice and death is not the time. If you all can sit down please. We try to keep everyone seated during the meeting. Thank you those are part of the

rules. Go ahead. In cooperation with ice and protecting the rights and safety of our communities. We represent a growing nationwide base of activists committed to engaging sheriffs and local law

enforcement directly building local pressure and advancing policies that protect constitutional rights and immigration immigrant communities, we're a prosperous Pinellas County is one with every

resident immigrant and us but one alike feel safe. Valued and able to participate in County life. All local public resources should be used to keep our community safe. Not just not to erode public

trust and take away our loving neighbors from the people that depend on them. Pinellas coalition includes the Unitarian Universalist of Clearwater unity Church of Clearwater. The Florida immigrant

coalition, the workers circle and a visit both of Pinellas and Tampa Bay immigrants solidarity network. We are committed to the following one and profiling and the practice of stopping questioning.

What detaining people based on their race at its system be or what the language they speak. Number 2 follow due process required due process and judicial oversight of Lawrence and detain is issued by

ice prior to any enforcement actions. Number 3 treat with dignity. Require that lawful deportation first include safe and dignified return to the individual's family, whether the in the United States

or outside the United States. Number 4 protect children. Require that children born in the United States be the place with us citizen families or friends known to them and their parents when the

parents are detained. Well these Hayne members of the same family should stay together. And number 5 allow inspection. We're quiet that each detention center be open to inspection by elected officials

be subject to independent public inspection and free of nutritional health and safety violations given to the gross if violations of floor and common decency committed by ice, we call on all our

enforcement agencies in Pinellas County to end the 2. Every day. We MAY think you ma'am. >> I'm here to speak to the proclamation in the 2.87. The agreement. There is a legitimate role for for you.

Address across the record please share. Roger Kobe 4, 9, 7, 4, Oxford Avenue. There is a legitimate role for federal immigration enforcement. But there is also a legitimate question for this Council.

Should the St. Petersburg Police Department be part of it. The 2.87 g agreement was entered without a proceeding vote that this Council and without public discussion. I'm asking you to have that

discussion now and then vote. The 2.87 g agreement blurs the line between the badge of the Petersburg Police Department officer and the badge of an ice agent. When that happens trust in the police is

lost and worse. People fear the police. This is not speculation on my part you might remember the reverend Andy. Oliver spoke here in fit FEBRUARY about undocumented women and even some green cold

green card holders who were sexually. Abused abused and were afraid to report those crimes. More recently the University of South Florida. Researchers interviewed. Immigrants lawful permanent

residents people with temporary legal protections and us citizens. They found a declining trust in law enforcement. Some participants reported avoiding even reported avoiding. Police even during

emergencies because they feared exposure. 2 immigration authorities. Residents of St. Petersburg should not live in fear. The victim of a assault in St. Petersburg should not hesitate to report the

crime. A 5th grader in St. Petersburg should worry about long division problems not to cut the conversation their father head with the school resource officer that morning that drop off. The high

school sophomore in St. Petersburg should not be worried about racial profiling and being hauled off to jail. A churchgoer and St. Petersburg we should be able to do just that go to church without

fear. I'm not asking. This Council to decide federal immigration policy I'm asking you to decide Petersburg policing policy. But the 2.87 g agreement on the agenda. Hear publicly from chief Holloway

immigration attorneys victims advocates clergy. And residents. Debate its costs and benefits and then vote. This agreement began without a public vote. It should not continue without one. >> Next 2

speakers are Zoe Tweedy and won't triggers. Please go to an open podium state your name address across Street for the record you have 3 minutes to address City Council. Hello my name is Zoe Tweety I

in 4th Street North. Good afternoon. I work full-time for the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida and I'm the Tampa Bay field organizer for for the organization I also hope all City Council

members can make sure they're paying and giving diligent attention to the speakers that are going up today about this issue. The aclu is a non-partisan organization whose mission is to defend

strengthen and protect constitutional rights and liberties of all people in Florida. The Saint Pete Police Department charter is to protect the public. But the record continues to show that voluntary

2.87 g agreements do not promote public safety. Instead they harm families encourage racial profiling destroy the community's trust and unnecessarily diver local resources. Notably Vol voluntary 2.87

g agreements deputize local law enforcement to make immigration arrests. Importantly though it also mandates jail sharing and information sharing between local Police Department and homeland security.

While we are glad to hear that the Saint Pete Police Department has not engaged in the designation it is designated immigration officer training where the Deo program. This is not an excuse to remain

in the 2.87 g agreement by complying with voluntary 2.87 g agreements, the Saint Pete Police Department is still sharing information with ice and he's referring are asked to homeland security through

the county jail. Rather we see this as an opportunity for Saint Pete to actually be a leader in Pinellas County a county which has spent in this is a correct number 909 995 million 704,000 $146 on

mass deportation, according to the economic Policy Institute for reference that's the equivalent to an rolling. 71,000 Saint Pete residents and Medicaid. Florida law does not require local police

departments to enter into voluntary 2.87 g agreement with ice lawyers for the governor and the ag have admitted this in court. In fact the Florida Legislature legislature has considered and rejected a

proposed mandate for cities multiple times. The meat this means that see the city of Saint Pete can choose to end its voluntary 2.87 g agreement at any time because no law requires it to have one.

It's as easy as terminating any other contract. The city has signed. And despite his throughout the governor does not have the constitutional authority to remove municipal officials who have not been

indicted for a crime. We are proud to stand with the people Saint Pete today and calling for the end to the city's 2.87 g agreement as soon as possible. Let us and the chaos caused by these agreements

approved prop improve public safety restore trust in the local Police Department and give the people of Saint Pete relief from this unnecessary attack on their civil liberties lets see Pete be a model

of Democratic just leadership Pinellas County and beyond thank you. >> One Beach drive Southeast St. Petersburg Florida, 3, 3, 7, o. One. I have 3 points to share with you today one is I want to thank

you so much for your support again this year for the scholarship program. We have $16,500 we're only going to invoice for 16,000 because we've got the mechanics component to it we haven't been able to

find a successful partnership for that element. But thank you so much for working with supporting these young people in moving them forward in their aviation career. The second point is it's been 2

years this month since we've lost 32 hangers 8 airplanes and 2 helicopters. We don't understand why it's taken 2 years to replace the demolished 10 hangers with the hurricane resistant resilient pre

stress concrete hurricane resistant hangars at no cost no tax dollars to the city and you wouldn't have to borrow any money. The group is doing that is hoping to finalize this agreement soon. We're

down to where they are down to only one point it would like to get that result, so we can move forward. The last point I'd like to share with you. Those I've had the great ability to work with another

part of the city we're working with the marketing and events department they have been doing and totally awesome job on an upcoming historic event that's going to happen at Albert whitted Airport on

Oct. 30th. So if you ever see when you see Kerry. O'brien and Tony Leno please that knowledge their professionalism it's been great to work with those people for this event. Thank you so much. Thank

you. Next to speakers. Next 2 speakers are Robin Davidoff and Michael Caine through please go to an open podium state your name address across Street for the record you have 3 minutes to address City

Council. >> Thank you councilmember Robin David of 4, Osprey drive so. And I'm here on behalf of the League of Women, voters and are 500 members. We we take the job of educating voters very seriously

and we've worked very hard the last couple months in educating voters about the Geo bond. We did sponsor and a form with MR. Tankersley and we have posted a lot of social media. Information as well as

posting our conversation with MR. Tankersley on our website and the more people that we talked to as we educate voters in Saint Pete. The question we get a lot is about accountability and public

participation. This is the one thing that seems to concern a lot of voters so to that and we're here to support the hers committee proposal to create these committees and have citizen involvement and

transparency we think go a long way to answer voters concerns about this important legislation. We have voted to support the job and we're very proud to do that and work with you. Thank Thank you.

Michael kingsford 1, 2, 3, one Monticello Boulevard and Saint Pete. >> First I'd like to apologize to my parents when I got notice of this meeting I was in my garden, so you guys get the view of me

that my plants get. I'm also here with regard to the general obligation bond or go bond I'm representing the Sierra Club we are in support of the bond and we hope it gets past. Beyond that we really

hope that the management of the bond includes. Ponder Inc of green solutions. More than half a century ago. I was a kid growing up on a farm in New Jersey. My father worked in New York. Periodically I

would have the privilege of of accompanying him on the train. And before we got to New York City. We would go through an area called the Meadowlands. Well you look out and you would just see grasses

who is a big Marsh and my father would always comment to me that that land would never be developed because that was what absorbs storm waters and without that New York City would flood. I think you

might remember pictures of Sandy with cars floating up out of a basement garage is in New York and flooded subways after the Meadowlands was developed. Green solutions are not only cheaper and

supportive of our environment. They don't need to be renovated you know some that will always need to be redone mangroves don't they get stronger over time. So I'm or a gym you too. From concept on

focus on green solutions when it comes to this kind of resiliency thank you very much for your time. Thank you. Speakers. Thanks to speakers are. >> Worst Russell and Patricia Pena John please go to

an open podium state your name address across Street for the record you have 3 minutes to address City Council. >> My name is Mary Russell I live at 15 32th Street apartment a one in St. Petersburg I

wanted to address the 2.87 g agreement. I believe that the Department of homeland security and ice have shown us all that's the true intent is to terrorize and to brutalize our immigrant communities.

In the past year. We have seen this cruelty from the Johnny actions in the street. The inhumane conditions in the detention centers. And the deportation, too dangerous, communities and countries. Even

with all that public exposure. Dhs has stated very boldly that they will continue and evil even double down. The same process a process that that they have been showing us for the last year too. They

have no intention of changing. In view of that our Petersburg police cooperating with ice is really where the road in the trust of the immigrant community. And this is a a trust that takes a long time

to build up, but can be destroyed very easily. My concern is is that what is the line that has to be crossed before the City Council says enough. I hope that the public outcry that is going to grow.

We'll encourage our city leadership to find the support and the will to end this agreement and the citizens of St. Petersburg will applaud you and we'll support you in this effort, thank you. Thank

you. >> Patricia Patty Jones, 1612 Street North St. Petersburg. I am a Florida native, I'm a resident and homeowner, I'm here to talk about 2.87 g and the opportunity that is presented you with to do

the right thing for the right reason by signing the agreement you did the wrong thing for the wrong reasons in the wrong reasons for fear and intimidation. We know that one Key West didn't sign. The

state attorney threatened to remove elected officials from their office and very quickly Key West Side. But South Miami which is my hometown. And said no and they sued. They went to court and

immediately the state of Florida seated. That in fact they are not required to sign the agreement if you're a city. Now they tried to slip in that if you're a city with jail you might be quite too.

But that is not in the law and there is no legal requirement for the city of St. Petersburg to sign that agreement. So it's time to do the right thing for the right reason and I understand how

difficult that is becoming the last year in 10 months, we know, but it's just something that has to be done it can be to so. Good luck. I hope you do stand up. I'm sure that once you do you will not

be thrown from office. Thanks. >> We have one speaker I'm going to call. Sarah hips Amanda and she went to the meeting space. Please unmute yourself state your name and address for the record you have

3 minutes to address City Council. >> I can hear me, yes we can hear you go ahead please. Also I'm Sarah hips. I am the PRESIDENT Show up relief alliance, a nonprofit for disaster preparedness and

relief. I live at first ave North and 23th Street. I just want to take a moment to speak in favor of the Geo bond and the committees. The. Accountability that needs to be taking in account here is

that we have an entire Peninsula, but inter city that is very much needing to move forward quickly to protect itself. We have a ball town unpredictable hurricane climate we've seen it this year. And

we will continue to see it moving forward a lot of people forget that just because we have it experience something this season does not mean that we are on a downscale we are proven weather wise that

we're on the upscale and what that takes from us is absolute preparedness and a lot of times people only look at the area's deeply impacted me write those off because they consider the fact that they

are storm surge and those are things that we can't adequately protects from, but we are for getting people like Janine that my nonprofit was able to help where she lived across 4th Street and she was

in an area that has never flooded before. But because we were not properly properly prepared to be able to take care of our storm water that came for Helene she flooded and while she only received 5

inches of water. She did have to lose 4 feet of drywall and this is a woman who's a senior citizen is only help was another senior citizen who is also handicapped if it wasn't for nonprofits like

mine. I cannot tell you how long she would have sat there. The reality is is that we have so many people who do not have a trust in our government and so when they hear that their taxes are going to

increase that what they are going to be responsible for will increase, but they don't know if the city will be held accountable to show up properly for them. What we are given is an amazing

opportunity to actually show up for everybody here in Saint Pete, especially those who have been underrepresented and who have been low communicated and shown up for I believe that while this MAY

initially feel like a pinch for some people it MAY sound like we're asking too much. In reality we have to absolutely move faster to protect. This amazing city that we live in weather wise. We will be

paying exponentially more end individual homeowners renters and landlords will be paying exponentially war to be able to live here and continue to grow cp as it is I have a number of stories like

Janine people that you don't think of it consider that didn't live in barrier islands and we don't usually think of but I'm going to leave it with her and and 2. Okay speakers. The next 2 speakers

are. Kathy haralson in Franklin. All this please go to an open podium if your name address across Street for the record you have 3 minutes to address City Council. >> I counsel my name is frankly now

is live at 10 35th Avenue South I'm here representing the council neighborhood associations today. And I remembered Evers I wanted to first off I thinking the minister even all of them for taking the

time this year meeting with us very regularly taking your feedback from a resiliency committee. All of our questions and really falling up with really intentional and thoughtful things. The item today

for the go bond accountability committee. We're an absolute support of that that was one of the top things that came out from our meetings with. Claude and it especially having representation from all

of our different districts. This impacts what we're asking for is the whole city to pay for these types of projects infrastructure and that having a committee that represents all of cp is an important

part of that and some you're just and in speaking in favor of that. And that it moves forward and that we can see that that is it an enormous part of what people asked when we talk to them. You know

how do we hold our government accountable. This is specifically that mechanism to do that so very excited to see them forward today with all support to thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. >> Good

afternoon. My name is Kathy haralson limit 32th ave North 26 Street. In Saint Pete Heights, I've lived in I think 5 different districts in Saint Pete including 30 years in shore acres. So I've had

also lived experience with resilience or lack, thereof I want to thank the city is sustainability specialist engineers, hers committee and City Council for your work on the resilience advisory

committee and the go bond committee and to the many community organizations bringing attention to these key issues which go hand in hand. I appreciate your willingness to allow for more whole city

community involvement in the important work of these committees per what Franklin just stated. And of your converging viewpoints that living nature based infrastructure is a valuable adjunct to the

drains pipes and pumps. We all know we need to have to live here successfully. Transparency is not just reports but must include education involvement and commitment to live in bility throughout the

community. I was heartened this morning to hear additional items such as he rainfall and drought added to our many resilience and liveability issues reducing heat super tax an increase in our tree

canopy and green space is critical to liveability and perhaps to return us to a normal rainfall cycle. Which not surprisingly brings me to the number one topic it's always about. Senator says the

trees in Yeah. The scope of work and where the money will come from for the resiliency resiliency project is exactly why I continue to stress. They need to stop the chop keeping in protecting the tree

canopy we have left is a critical first step. This is an asset we can't afford to lose and to do that just to build big box houses and neighborhoods after clear cutting the property is not only

devastating to her resilience but also to our bottom line. Ups urban tree canopy is functions a powerful form of green infrastructure, so at the end that yields measurable financial returns measuring

these as it should be step one in our scope of work. It's also the cheapest first step unlike traditional muni has since like roads and bridges that depreciate and require costly maintenance overtime

trees and the only urban asset that appreciate in value as immature multiplying their community dividends exponentially finally ongoing tree-planting is vital of 5 city epa study found that

municipalities receive a $1.50 to $3. Indirect benefits for every one dollar invested in planting and maintenance. So again. Thanks to one and all and let the resilience began. Thank you. Next

becomes. Next 2 speakers are Courtney pro Corpus and Mary gerken please go to an open podium state your name address or cross Street for the record you'll have 3 minutes to address City Council. >>

Hello my name is Courtney prokop us, I'm with the in the immigration justice chairperson of the League of Women, voters, the St. Petersburg area looking at 38th in Haines road. I recently learned that

the St. Petersburg Police Department officers regularly participate in the Florida Holocaust museums, law enforcement and society lessons of the Holocaust or l a s training. How fortunate are we to

live in a city with world class institutions like that. We're literally right next door to that Museum. Which offers this kind of training. It's a gift too. I'm curious was this Council where about

training have you been briefed. What the Police Department training. Im not teacher money. Police were steadily turned away from community policing and steered towards becoming force multipliers for

an increasingly authoritarian state. How do you square this history with the present situation. Police officers are being used as force multipliers for immigration enforcement that deadly eroding

public trust while also draining our local resources. Zoe Tweedy of so you so clearly articulated. When we're in it it's hard to see it. That's how the saying goes. It's difficult to see the forest

for the trees. But we have the gift of the training from the Holocaust Museum. You all have at least 18 months of irrefutable input on the public record against 2.87 g agreements. What are you waiting

for. At the beginning of open forum will MISS A stroller was speaking. Several individuals stood silently in solidarity council member. You stopped misses Stoller time and directed us to sit down.

When else in history has standing in solidarity been weaponized the irony is not lost on me. And 2.87 g. Now. >> Good afternoon mayor eager can 1345 15th Street North. I'm an active member of Suncoast

Sierra Club when I moved to Florida 45 years ago I live in Tampa. But it didn't take me long to realize that Saint Pete's vibe and resources. What is what my by this and where that it's deep in my

heart, I've never regretted it. But it always and was in the back of my mind not only is Florida peninsula. But St. Petersburg is on the Peninsula completely surrounded by water. Of course it brings

the natural beauty. But it makes us responsible to maintain that. That's not just to keep our trees for wildlife in shade clean shoreline some parks to walk to restore during this time of electronic

overload. But we also must plan for the future. When looking for my home must have was high ground. But of course in Saint Pete that's not all really that high. But I took my responsibility personally

and seriously. I have solar panels and electric car which I'm luckily charging across the street which is fantastic. I ride my bike whenever possible and I'm building my neighborhood network we help

each other. Either through just physical help or resources. We ask each other for help. I'm not asking. For you to do anything that I haven't done. I had to do the resort. Research. I had to make wise

decisions and spent spend some money. But I also knew that one Helene and Milton approached. I had done my part. I was prepared this I could be. And luckily my neighborhood was not affected that much

we were on high ground we did have trees come down. But I am part of the city and I feel a responsibility for the whole entire city. So yes, I voted, yes on go bond I I believe that we need to back

the resources that we need to make us more sustainable and resilient. I attended the first meeting today and I was very encouraged by the 2 committees that they proposed and also the policy that they

they put forward and so I hope that that will pass. Thank you very much. Our final speaker is James Scott. Please go to an open podium state your name address across Street for the record you have 3

minutes to address City Council. The low James Scott here for 49th Street North. So this go bond issue has been this should be a no-brainer if this is on the ballot 2 years ago it probably would be an

easy thing to pass right. But there's a there's an art to resilient cities. There's a public engagement and planning process than you adjust the policies and the zoning and land use that what you're

building in the right places. The new bill the financing plan and then you asked the public to finance it and at that point the public's behind it because they get it they trust that you know the

plan. It says their plan. Well we never did that and and so we had to react in 2024. And I want to commend the administration and Council for putting the gold on the ballot. Because it needs to be

done. And that was a courageous thing to do otherwise you'll gonna keep having to hike or utility bills that's the alternative. But we still need to get this right and so you all especially Claude

Tankersley and MAY even with opposites in building resiliency. I have heard that loud and clear earlier this year and the items you have today Tucker 8 an advisory board for resiliency to create an

oversight board as well for the go bonds that should have come earlier. But here we are and the fact that you all are doing this today. I think is a clear signal to the citizens that you take this

seriously. We don't have to rehash how we got here but getting it right today is is really important. So I urge you all to to vote yes on your resolutions today. Especially the resilience plan that's

what ties all this together we have dozens of plans. We can't just focus on our infrastructure that like our streets that are pipes. We've got to focus our neighborhoods in our communities. That's

what the resilience plan kind of folds together. But we have to put we have a gap we are very vulnerable. Just in 2024. I think it was over almost $250 million and recovery costs for the city, a 102

13 of which was it was permanent damage to our facilities and infrastructure. These aren't abstract costs and so I think it's a shame that a lot of voters are unaware of this issue don't feel

ownership of this issue. This is a moment to change that you all today are taking that seriously we as a city need to. So. This is dragged on. The fact that this go bond might fail. It really speaks

to the fact that the citizens of Saint Pete. I don't understand this issue and that the city hasn't shown. What the plan is and why it makes sense and how utility bills are the alternative. So I

appreciate you all very much I know this has been kind of a sprint this year. Let's shift from being a city that reacts to flooding in disasters to a city that's very proactive and makes his part of

our youth those part of our economy part of who we are because that's who we are and we can do better. Thank you for your time. It was a much bigger. Thank you I just want to remind everyone. The fire

code prohibits anyone from standing in the aisles or in the back of the room so when it was said that you couldn't stand it's because of fire code prohibits and we do it in every meeting. Thank you.

Hoping is closed. Next up we have awards and council members just a little housekeeping before after pic of my daughter at 5 o'clock. So at some pending how long this park takes and 5 o'clock public

hearings I have to just go and I'll be back for the rest says he'll be back for it. Most of the 5 additional back. Next up is the one and our mayor is going to present a resolution a memorial tribute

to the family and friends. Bill Edwards. Thank you. Good morning, second MADAM Chair. >> Thank you, MADAM Chair members of City Council or city team and members of the public for being with us today,

I'm honored to join you to celebrate honor recognize, and most importantly. Remember someone who has been such a part of the growth of the city of St. Petersburg both in the arts and in our community

and that's in our friend William bill Edwards. He was a friend to our city and businessman with a passion for the Arts community education youth in all things Saint Pete. We recognize that while we

mourn the loss of a remarkable citizen and community leaders. We also celebrate a life that made a lasting impact and the legacy that will continue to shape. The cultural fabric economic vitality and

character of our city for generations to come. We honor his life with the joint resolution, a memorial tribute. And at this time I'd like to invite his family his wife joy and children kt and value

joining isil well as any friends and family would like to join me for the reading of this resolution. And it reads whereas we are profoundly grieved by the passing of a friend. And the last to the

city of William bill Edwards, a visionary businessman philanthropist community leader and devoted champion of the arts. And whereas he understood that cultural institutions, professional sports.

Businesses restaurants and community celebrations all contribute to the vitality of the city as investments in the Mahaffey theater. Lane stadium. The rowdies sunda and charitable programs reflected

his belief that these places and experiences could bring people together and make St. Petersburg a stronger community and whereas bill Edwards commitment to this community to extended far beyond

business sports and the arts. Through the Edwards family Foundation's annual Christmas celebration bill and his family. I mean the holidays, brighter for hundreds of local families and providing meals

gifts. Toys and a joyful celebration filled with the spirit of the season. Whereas bill Edwards was equally passionate about the power of the arts to bring people together to educate and inspire our

young people to strengthen neighborhoods and create a sense of belonging this commitment to the arts was not simply a financial investment. It was an investment in the identity and future of our city.

And whereas St. Petersburg is a better and more vibrant city because he chose to make this community his home to believe in our potential and to invest his time resources and heart in our future. And

whereas William bill Edwards has been call from a season of service on Aug. 27th to an internal reward of wrist. Now therefore be it resolved by Mayor candidate he Welch Council chair listen Hannah

Woods and the members of City Council of the city of St. Petersburg Florida. That we for ourselves and for the citizens we served. And he served so well. In publicly acknowledged the debt of

gratitude. This city owes to William bill Edwards. For his entire ring and steadfast service. Be it further resolved that we expressed to the family of William bill Edwards, our heartfelt condolences

with the hope that you will take some measure of consolation in the knowledge that he gave himself wholeheartedly to the service of the city. Biggest question. Thank you so much to give the man is.

Councilmember Harvey thank you chair. Mayor thank you for. Thanks to a point in in recognizing. MR. Edwards ladies. Thank you for being here today. When when you look back at at names that are that

are on buildings and that you hear and that you're not sure about snow in snow while roads are in roads or Park. Those are the folks throughout our history that that that shaped and made this

community and what it is and Bill is one of those people and I still find it interesting that it was scary to be in front of him. >> But on the back end of that now. Against it after a while, but on

the back end of that he was going to do good things with that with whatever you brought to him he's going to maybe take a kind of flesh first which have had happened. But what he did for this

community is it is measurable. The the the fact that that he had resources available. The any is willing to to use them and commit the family to to help in the city and the citizens of Saint Pete

that's awesome. That's incredible. We also did have this time and that is that that is the bigger part of this is that that that throughout all of this and building his career. He amassed inability.

And you'll be you'll find as these things go forward you get to you get to hear from other folks that that that we're going to bill was was the part that was more valuable was his counsel. The the

advice that he can offer you on how is it that you take this to the next level. What do you look for the resources to build this ad you just you can sit and listen to him forever which is possible

because he talked. I think he has a familiar with that as well but this one is this is a name that will be remembered for for will be on us and we'll be on this Council. The bill made an effect on

this community that the last and stay here for a very very long time. I am profoundly sorry for your loss but I am I'm privileged to to have known bill and to receive the so this kind words so thank

you for being here Mayor thank you for making this happen. Thank you chair. Thank you. I will have to say that. Arie councilmember here has probably a one point or the other and the mayor. And lots of

people probably in this room and staff have had conversations with Bill Edwards. There is never question first of all he's a force. An absolute force. He was passionate councilmember Hardin said you

know he had advice. Sometimes it's just an opinion and he made sure that you want that you followed it. And that you knew what his opinion was and and you always what I appreciated about that the lead

words as you always knew where he stood. There was never a question about how he felt about something you were never taken by surprise. It is what you see is what you get. But you know what with even

with that he still would listen to you and you could change his mind on things believe it or not as scary as he could be sometimes as councilmember Harvey pointed out, you could have those

conversations and I appreciated that so much about him councilmember Harding putting basically bill Edwards is synonymous with St. Petersburg and he has been a force for this community that just goes

it's going to go beyond our lives. The the impact that he has made so I want to thank you for being there and supporting him. Throughout all be endeavors and for giving back to this community. We're

very thankful and we are honored that he was part of St. Petersburg so our condolences to you and your family, thank you. Thank you mayor for the beautiful resolution. And thank you for everyone

that's here and his family besides his family that's here for Bill Edwards. >> Next up we have legal items to address the first one is I won and can the call near here for that. Good afternoon

Council, thank you come home from the City Attorney's Office. Your today on a settlement of the matter this was land revisit a vs. Initially filed against 4 different officers with Police Department,

here's Lynn and Mark know it will take a. Ortega was dismissed from this case we reached a resolution last month with plaintiffs counsel this was a section 1983 civil rights action in federal court.

The total sum of the settlement is $100,000 this is inclusive of attorneys fees which can be part of this type of seeking approval for anybody has any questions you think you have a motion a second

clerk if you can open in JUNE for voting. Council members please enter your votes. In present council members voted clerk please tell you now spoke. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda item I

one passes unanimously. Thank you, thank you, everybody. Is there a looker is handling that. >> Good afternoon Sarah Walker with the City Attorney's Office also this is an employment law case that or

outside counsel handled a negotiated a settlement. It's the matter of free to ask some versus the city of St. Petersburg us District Court case. Number 8.26 cb 0, 0, 4, 3, 8, It's a settlement in the

amount of $60,000 that's inclusive of attorneys fees lost wages and claims for emotional distress. The rule that you have a motion second clerk if you can open machine for voting council members

please enter your votes. Being that all present council members voted quick police telling us about. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda item I 2 passes unanimously. Thank you thank you. We move

on to reports first item we have is great explorations 2025 26 update. And Julian how the seal is here who's going to cry. The presentation. I am clean. Well thank you for taking the time to listen to

our report. This afternoon I appreciate being able to I stand before you. Great explorations has been serving our community for 39 years. Our mission is to stimulate learning through creativity play-

in exploration. We are honored to be part of our St. Petersburg community and we value our partnership with the city. Okay over the past year I am proud of the hard work and dedication of all the

employees of great explorations. And throughout this report you will see the successes in all the different. Overall we delivered a $176,905 worth of in kind services to the citizens of St.

Petersburg. Are busy field trips a season typically is in spring and summer and as you can see during last fiscal year we hosted 37 free field trips to schools such as. Campbell Park Clinton

elementary Jamerson Lakeview maximo and that's just to name a few. A couple years we have invested in hiring an evaluator who spends the time to immerse yourself in programs and exhibits and really

see are we meeting the needs to communi are we doing our job we making an impact and as you can see 9200% field trips have said they've enjoyed their experience and their educational programs. We

received numerous requests and needs for scholarships and we are very pleased to be able to offer 57 scholarships to children living in St. Petersburg. As you MAY be aware we along with many other

cultural institutions have lost funding at the federal level state level and local level a lot of these grants have covered our outreach programs that have gone into neighborhoods and schools and

broken down transportation barriers for every child to learn through hands-on education. However this past year we did, but we did provide 50 community outreach is here in St. Petersburg as we believe

there should be no beer barrier to hands-on learning. And our surveys show that many of our activities were fun and educational. During this past fiscal year we provided 2062 free admissions and

memberships. We are honored to continue to be a resource to our community as we continue to rebuild after 2 major destructive Hurricanes. One of our favorite things to do as an organization is to

partner with other nonprofits and service organizations. We know that together we can make a bigger impact here in our community. This past year we held 63 free Museum rentals to area nonprofits and

this next slide. We'll time. I behind they're here. These just name a few of the many nonprofits that we partner and provide free space to on a regular basis. As mentioned earlier we believe in no

barriers for children to learn through hands-on education. We have many programs on site at the museum as well as in our community and this just list a few. That you MAY have heard of through social

media and out in our community. This past year we installed many new exhibits and experimentation Zahn this list, a couple of them. For our members and our guests and our future leaders. Great

explorations holds many accreditations we belong to some of the top associations in the museum industry and we have received countless awards. Great exploration continues to represent the city of St.

Petersburg locally throughout the state and across the nation. So what's next for great explorations. We are growing as mentioned in last year's report our vision is to open a discovery center. The

discovery center is where you take your hands on science experimentation you merge it with the hands on learning of an early childhood center that is the discovery center and great exploration wants

to take it one step further to tie it to careers and get our use the excited for what they want to be when they grow up. We are working very closely with Pinellas County schools to find a location

that fits the needs of our community. We're very excited for what the future could hold for our community and for great explorations. Thank you for your time this afternoon I appreciate being able to

report this to you. Thank you Andy, you have any board members here with you I do thank you for asking more members that they're here for another item. Several my board members have joined me as well

as our leadership team. Great so can raise your hands. >> All you got a great turnout and really not everybody gets as many board members at an event. >> In job councilmember given thank you very much

chair and thank you so much and sling for being here. I am a product of the St. Petersburg science Center. One of my fondest childhood memories growing up in Pinellas County schools is attending field

trips annually to the science Center. There's something about children's museums and institutions of learning they give you this cultural experience that really helps to broaden your horizons that

holistic experience I think really helps the whole child week getting a well-rounded perspective of careers, right the possibilities beyond just the world that you see every day wherever you come from

can you talk a little bit about the interactive hands-on learning experiences that great expirations provides for the children who are able to attend. Right now we specialize in early childhood,

hands-on learning so our our demographic to 0 to 10 and what we're learning as want to age out of great explorations there really isn't anywhere to go. Here in Pinellas County. So that's the gap we

want to fill and in the past 5 years we have partnered with Pinellas County schools and we've brought the hands-on learning to middle schools. We have been in every single Pinellas County middle

school serving 8 grade with our traveling planetarium program. 6 grade with interactive steam crates and 7th grade has really benefited from both of those programs combined. That is great information,

I'm looking at well traders because he knows he and I have had multiple conversations with Barrington Irving about some aviation components that we can try to bring here to St. Petersburg specifically

with simulators and that sort of thing so we will definitely be following up in conversation with you connect these the Friends of Albert whitted airport. But I'm excited about the growth can you

speak a little bit about your conversations if you are able to that you've been having with the school district. It's my understanding there MAY be some closures and consolidations that could be

possibly benefit you all as you look to expand. Right now we are considering Bay point elementary the current site which is an incredible area to be end because those are steam focus schools. >> We

are exploring other options as more schools continue to close but we're really excited about being anywhere in Pinellas County and offering hands-on education to everybody. It is amazing and exciting

looking at here Hannah what's in some of your board members because a few of us were together last night with Shirley Proctor pull a foundation. And I'm wondering are you all working with them at all

can you speak a little bow, look like your partnerships I'm thinking about like even the gathering of women in there sunflowers organization story 7 to 7 partnerships that can help expand your

footprint. As mentioned in my report, we love partnership, so yes, all of our area nonprofits were speaking to a lot of them because again we know together we can make a bigger impact we don't have

any solid partners right now we just want to make sure we continue to design something that is meaningful to the community of where we will be serving. Well as we unfortunately have to brace for

funding cuts wherever they MAY be if it happens. I certainly think there are possibilities when it comes to bridging that gap so no children left behind and I really appreciate what great expirations

doing as we talk about bridging that gap on the opportunity gap which you all are doing you're working with those high poverty income areas, you're working with those areas that have a lot of them

really you know we're talking about social economic challenges and what you're doing is you're exposing them to worlds beyond what they see every day and I'm so grateful for what you all do so thank

you all so much into you and your board keep up the great work. Thank you thank you chair. Thank you councilmember councilmember fix Sanders. Thank you thank you for the presentation in my words

they're going to be very short but I want to fly in my head you employee of the Mount Daniel Sanders, thank you so much and again thank you for what you do for the city safe use for. Thank you chair,

thank you. Angeline always great work from you and your team. You have a fantastic for councilmember Givens mentioned we were yesterday, it's really part of color Foundation event and obviously Donald

Cochran who sits on your board sits on our board so lots of opportunities there to collaborate to collaborate all ways and this is to me when you think about great acts. This is our cities. Children's

Museum. I mean this is our city children's Museum period. And when I travel different places and my daughter was young you always found the children's Museum to take your child to it's not only

serving our community locally with the preschool and everything else that it does. But it also is opportunity obviously for others to come and visit to bring their children to enjoy our city. Not just

the beaches, but the children's Museum in other museums and so you know it gives so much to the community. Not just here for those that visit so I thank you for all your efforts, I'm also on the Tampa

Bay water board. Another great partner of yours and it's always wonderful to see how much you put online new exhibits. Last time you were talking about the wonders of wetlands exhibit that with that

and the water board collaboration and now you have new exhibit so you're always growing and changing and engaging with children and it's wonderful. So on a little bit about the preschool, how many

children are you serving roughly at the preschool right now, and growth in all that all that where do you see the priest one. We have a 110 children currently in our preschool and we've open to new

classrooms that we are currently enrolling I believe we've offered 21 spotlight could be off on that number. But we knew we needed to expand last year reported we had over 300 kids on the waitlists we

have contacted all those families and we've gotten our wait list down to about a 100 kids, 300 kids on the waitlist out. That's fantastic. So you're growing obviously the preschool and your services,

yes that's great and I know you worked fantastically with sunken gardens. Yes, another wonderful partner those Sarah made here today. But he's always talk about how wonderful this work with great acts

so anything that we can do for you we're here for you you're my district, I'm always available. But I want to just make sure that you know we appreciate the work that you do I always look forward to

this report that you provide to us so thank you for that and thank you for the board members who took the time out of your jobs to come over here not just like support the organization all the time

because we know you do this voluntarily it's not for the big paycheck. It's because you care about great acts. But then you came in you sat here a City Council meeting to support Angeline so thank you

didn't go unnoticed. Thank you very much. Thank you thank you for your time. Next up we have to which is the home American rescue plan. Capacity-building Grant update and 8. >> It reads like or

director housing and community development. We are here this afternoon to bring you a report on our nonprofit capacity building home Arp said contract with directions for living the home our program

was a part of the American rescue act of 2021. This was awarded as the home American rescue plan program to provide housing services and shelters to individuals experiencing homelessness or other

vulnerable populations. There was an assessment need done in 20 to 2. And one of the top 3 needs identified through that assessment was capacity building for nonprofits therefore the city carved out

$832 for nonprofit capacity building on 12/12/2020 4 this Council awarded that 2 directions for living for an organizational readiness assessment with the state certification for the certified

community behavioral health clinic and so we are here today to be here with APRIL lot who is PRESIDENT And ceo of directions for living to tell us about the success and the future of this wonderful

opportunity in Cuba. >> Good afternoon lot. Hi thank you for having me here today, it's a pleasure. It's always good to bring good news and to say thank you for your support I have to say that the

city of Saint Pete I brag on you often why don't come before you often I hope your ears burn, sometimes I say probably too many times a week that you are the best funding partner for community

nonprofits we are direction is for as you know home bases in Clearwater, but we serve all of Pinellas County and when this opportunity came forward, I have to say many of our funding partners are not

forward thinking like the city of St. Petersburg in particular and who are investing in capacity. Lets see lets get this. So right now. We haven't really talked in this city Council meeting today

about mental health care, but often you you hear about it it comes up. Often in our community and right now as you probably know our crisis response system is very fragmented it's expensive depending

on where you live and which law enforcement agency is going to respond to you responds differently in terms of how that mental health crisis is going to be handle but what I will tell you is usually

when a mental health crisis happens. It usually after midnight it usually in the middle of the night and they often end up in the emergency room in jail and other very high-cost doors that they're

going through and in often for no particular gain I have to say some summer Baker acted they go into the hospital. We stabilize them and then they come out and they're really not much better off than

when they went in. So what what the federal government in and locally across the country. I have really been working on for the last many many years which some of you MAY have heard about or have it

is developing a certified community behavioral Health Center which is often referred to as acc bhc so if you're familiar with fq agencies are federally qualified health centers and many of you

probably are familiar with him health is a partner I believe of of the city of Saint Pete in any case acc bhc is comparable to an f uh see only it is to meet the emergency and or ongoing mental health

needs of our community. So cbs she really is intended to be a one-stop or an urgent care clinic for mental health addiction. Services oftentimes looking at kind of social determinants of health which

include housing and emotional support and financial assistance and all the things that our vulnerable our most vulnerable in our community need. So we used this capacity building a $151,000 to really

start looking at the essential functions of Assisi bhc the state of Florida has not yet adopted cc bhc certification. We are probably a year or 2 away from that. But we'd are actions for living as a

community mental Health Center want to be ready to apply for that certification in order to be ready. The capacity-building funds became particularly important. So right now. We are working to address

same day access which I think is what was most needed at the time access to care we want people to be able to walk in and get mental health services, the same day. You might have heard over the years

of your service that people are often put out at 2 to DECEMBER. If you call right now to get a mental health appointment or meeting with a psychiatrist or to get meds that somebody would say to you

right that that that appointment is scheduled about 2 DECEMBER. Right now if you walk into directions for living any one of our clinics you will get a same day appointment we will see you the same day

and you will walk out with having your needs met. These are the advantages of implementing acc bhc access to care the cost of care and then of course the long-term financial sustainability which is I

think what most of us are worried about certainly in this current environment. What pps stands for is the prospective payment system. I'm not going to go into that, but ultimately we are we are

working to achieve that status. Ultimately acc bhc really is trying to get the right people to the right care at the right time by the right provider it kind of thing and so that they are not waiting.

To get their their needs met. I often think that people end up in an emergency room or in a the back of a cruiser being taken to a crisis stabilization unit in the middle of the night because they

didn't access care when it was when it was necessary and needed. So we wanted to use these funds we did use these funds for 2 of the recommended process changes needed so that we can apply for cc bhc

wants that designation becomes available in the state of Florida. So what we achieved is we did a full and complete phase wanted to readiness assessment. It was rather lengthy took us about 6 to 7

months and what what came out of that assessment were too. Priorities the first was the use of ai assisted documentation and the second was same day access. So the 2 pain points really that I want to

focus on ai assisted documentation. What we are hearing from most of our providers is that the the time to document a service was preventing them from seeing more people because it would take we would

see somebody would take them. You know 30 minutes 45 minutes to to do their their documentation. Which of course was complicating then people getting into the services that they need so documentation

time was really really was reduced from an average of 15 days to complete notes to let to 3 minutes and where we are right now is about 45 seconds services provided and the provider now reads that no

real time and hits the accuracy to say yes, it's it's correct. It literally is down about 45 seconds we have as a result of reducing that amount of time per service. We're now able to see that many

more people simply because of the efficiency. The accuracy of documentation has improved by 100% employee satisfaction related to the time it takes to do documentation has increased by 100%. It really

is quite amazing and I wish I could show it to you here, not that year, necessarily interested, but it's super super. >> Al intake and first time appointments have been eliminated it d-fl so if you

are to call us and say you know I have a neighbor who needs you know to see a psychiatrist can I get an appointment. We are not going to give you an appointment all appointments have been have been

eliminated at directions for living. Instead what we will say to you is calm. Calm right now if you want to if you want to be seen today, we can see you today. I will tell you that one of the things

that was a surprise to all of us because since the day I got 2 directions for living which was 20 years ago as the ceo I have been hearing that the problem with access to care is that you can't get an

appointment when you when you need it. And so when we took this step to eliminate appointments. I thought we would confetti would fall. I thought people would cheer in have parades for us right. It

did not happen people got mad because they couldn't get an appointment. I was like We want an appointment and he's like well, you don't need an appointment just just come in. >> Why can't come today

will come tomorrow. Never you want to come in fact right and so so now we are working through some things with some of the hospitals to say listen if you have to fabricate or create an appointment.

Just so that they feel like they have an appointment to in order to calm just give them an appointment but we don't actually need appointments at directions for living if you need a service. You can

walk in. We have a 98% success rate which means that 98% of a 100 people who walk through our door to get an appointment same day get not only appointment. That they wanted in that they needed that

they get the service that they were looking for the wait time is less than one hour. Individuals are no longer asked or required to wait. 6 weeks, you know 3 months that kind of thing to do to get an

appointment. I can't tell you how revolutionary this is and I really hope that you are proud of that accomplishment. So what we achieved in between JANUARY of 25 in in JUNE of 26 is for the city of

Saint Pete specifically. Is we provided same day access to mental health care to 1828 new individuals from the city of Saint Pete. In 2,661 individuals from the city of Saint Pete benefited from the

improved after seeing documentation and all the the efficiencies that came from the La owes the ai documentation. Product. These are just some of those statistics just conceiving kind of see by by zip

code where individuals from the city of Saint Pete are originating from when they come to us. We are we have 2 locations, one that's physical locations. One that is in largo and one that is in

Clearwater. We are also co located and all of the health departments, including the Saint Pete Health Department. We are also co located in all of the schools within the school system. So we are a lot

of places and we deliver the vast majority of our services are delivered in home and in community with people who need those services if I could get rid of clinic, they services altogether I probably

would. It really is a far more meaningful. Service when we are with people in their own neighborhoods, their own spaces, their own homes and that kind of thing. Again this is new and existing just

some information about the zip codes in terms of where individuals and families are coming from in the city of Saint Pete for our services. So what's next we're going to continue. 2 raise funds in

Enright for additional funds for additional capacity building so that we can implement phase 3, 4, 5, in in 6. We have already submitted our application to samsa we did get notice today that it is

currently under review. We are very very hopeful for that we have also recently submitted an application to actually purchase a mobile crisis Van which will be retrofitted to to respond to the

community. We were notified last week that we were fully funded for that vehicle and so that vehicles currently being purchase to the cost of that vehicles about $250,000. So we recently got that that

funding and it's it's being purchased in going to retrofit and then we are going to be working on same day medication management. So often times people run out of their medications because they fail

to meet their appointments and if you don't meet your appointment you can't get your psychotropic medications unfortunately so were coming up with a way that people can then get bridge medication

until they can get back in front of perhaps their psychiatrist by using just in time it's a it's a it doesn't matter what it is it's a it's a platform that helps us with that and then the next stage

is the integration of primary care so we've converted 2 of our and our clinics office spaces into primary care spaces and we will be partnering with the Department of Health and to have primary care

on site so that we are our own medical home. All of this leads us to see cbh c and as a nation. How was my tie. >> So thank you truly from the bottom of my heart, thank you for the capacity-building

dollars it made the biggest difference. I said to your team to your staff right Lake honestly who knew that a $151,000 could could do what it has done and sometimes it takes a little I know $151,000

lot of money but sometimes it's just a little bit to to really revolutionize kind of the way things done are done so thank you. Thank you councilmember gabbard thank you MADAM Chair and APRIL it is so

good to see you you know I just the work that you are doing and again how you're taking these dollars and you're just. >> Kind of spreading them so thin that making such an impact is so incredibly

impressive. But I'm just going to take a moment of personal privilege to say I think that is just who you are. >> You MAY not know. You mean the world to me. So you know back after the storms of 2024.

What you did for our people. And I can remember being on the phone with a me over and over and over again and her. For singing your praises and what a relief you were to her as the administrator. You

know really working to try to bring mental health to our employees with everything they were going through. And then turn it around and in MAY of that year we had the Tampa Bay regional planning

councils resiliency cement. The entire summit that year was really about trying to bring things to people as everyone across the region was recovering. And it was important to me as part of that

planning process that we address the mental health component around what people were still suffering from. So I called Amy and I said who was that amazing Lady that you had working with the employees

because we have got to have her and you came on the last day it was the first morning session and I will tell I think that it was a complete round of 400 people who after we heard from APRIL just side

this breath of relief and was able to really kind of let all of that trauma out that everyone was feeling some of us had to take a sidebar with her and have a little cry session on the side I mean,

but you are there for every single person in that moment as the region was really looking to each other for how we move forward and making sure that we didn't forget that every single person was in

some sort of response during those days. But also needed care as well and you brought that to us thank you and I will never forget it I will always be grateful to you and so thank you thank you for

what you do for people every single day and just the light that you shine on the help that is there for people when they are having mental stress and they need trauma relief. What you do cannot be

replaced in our community so thank you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart so much for those kind words I have to say that I said to Amy this morning. I think it'd be nice to me. And now look you

know make me cry and she's like yes, they're going to be nice you you're giving them good news. And and here you are being incredibly kind to me so thank you thank you for those kind words to you are

you just exude this positivity and I think that when people are in their dark darkest moment. They need someone they can trust, but they also need someone that they can see a light in and that is who

you are so thank you thank you again, thank you for some great to see you. >> Councilmember Givens thank you chair and thank you so much APRIL for what you do. Councilmember Gavitt gabbard said it so

well, I mean we really could not do what we do without you. And people like you. In my work in child welfare I know firsthand how much of an asset directions for living is to our community. With the

families that we work with in preservation and then prevention. You know like I know how many unnecessary hospital visits Baker acts how many costs shuns we prevent how many unnecessary. And how's

families we keep House because of resources that provide it goes beyond ji's mental health counseling in family therapy. I mean you all are making sure that families keep a roof over their head, let's

be honest and when you have to worry about things like where your next meal is going to come from us if your lights are going to be on at the time to get home if you'll be able to make your child a

hot meal. You know those things really do play on your mental health. In as COUNCILMAN Gabbert said when you're recovering from things like a hurricane. You know you all are there too provide that

stabilization that support in I just want to let you know that we are grateful and we are thankful because if it wasn't for institutions like you where would we be where what our community and I am

ji's in all when I when I look at the statistics 2600 plus existing and new clients served in a six-month period. And we're talking about a little over a $150,000 here that you've been able to to help

build capacity with. Little becomes much when it's yielded to the touch of the right person so thank you so much for being the right organization to really helped lead the way in trying to combat the

mental health crises that we're dealing with in our community. So thank you so much, thank you thank you for those kind words for us thank you chair. As Murphy Sanders. >> so thank you so much for

being here so you know you've gotten that the kind sad, you know you're the savior year that nice that number talk about now warriors I okay, yeah so so I have had the pleasure to work were on coc

together and when I tell you in this environment that you are in. It is good to be kind is good to be nice want to have to stand up for what you do because you are in Reena that is fiercely combating

for dollars fiercely combating to be able to provide those services for those that do not have that voice and you have been steady. We have been in meetings when for raises their hand and that just

sit back because I know is government and I do appreciate the fact that you do not stand down. You are there for the clients that you serve you know we are you know on that same vein as the

understanding that you know we have to get this done and nobody is going to hold our hands, you know through this process and I'm glad muse been there in the city of St. Petersburg has been there to

understand the challenges that you face to provide the services that you do. And so for you know as far as my assistance with is concerned. I would love to continue to work with you because I see

firsthand what you do. I pick up the phone APRIL what can we do with is how can we handle this. Do you have clients for us to serve and you get right back with us but more importantly I do appreciate

your voice. I do appreciate the fact that you state the real you know a lot of times we try to be politically correct. But you understand what you are having to deal with him to have your voice in

that room has not strong not want to and so again thank you for your advocacy and your work in full way you and your staff, what you do especially for what you do find children in Mexico elementary I

just absolutely love what you do 5 babies they're in for our families and so again publicly I applied the kindness and you read the new know your consideration but continue to be that we can continue

to be that advocate here the whole us Lord I would definitely be to see you do in that battle. So thank you so for thank you and thank you to those words I am a bit of a street fighter. >> But you

know I much rather be that this week kind person, but you would when it becomes necessary. I am I am taking my earrings off in my in my come I you know I'm going into the street that's on time. Well

maybe I should is that that. >> Sweet kind Street war to a call love your energy I will tell you this is the only thing I'm gonna think everything's been said already and I can add to any of that. I

will say I was interested in the ai staff. Granted it's pride that's for another time probably there right you're right about that, but yeah, you know after hearing everything I've heard about you.

The fact that you made a 152 Cagle as far as it went not shocked. So the. Thank you for the work that you do thank very much. Thank you to all of you truly fear investment it really has made a

meaningful difference not just now but for many many years to come. Julie. Thank you very much. Thank you. >> Next up we have for this is a resolution for funding, various arts and cultural agencies

tolling out not to exceed $557,000 this I pulled from consent, it's the art advisory Grant I pull this because I have to celebrate. Our group the art advisory committee like I sit on it they they care

so much we discuss every Grant like you would not believe and because we care and so I by share a core heavy Dow here also which I love serving with. Tsai also want to thank Sir last and Tracy for

their work and popcorn I see back there so and Paul is also on on the committee. So I. I love being on the art advisory committee because you see the the passion that everyone on the committee has for

the Arts and so I just wanted to kind of make sure that City Council heard. I leave it to you Sir. Thank you for the opportunity. >> Good afternoon chair Hannah what's and members of City Council. It

is my pleasure to share information about the fy 2027 city of the arts grants. As chair Hannah what's can confirm. It is a big task that the art advisory committee takes on the committee is dedicated

and hard-working group and members of the committee represent a cross section of local arts organizations. Their involvement gives them unique and valuable insights. Since we're talking about good

news. Some of the good news from this year's grants is that we have the most grants that I could find that we have awarded for fy or that you will consider a warning fly 2027, 42 recipients, 3 of the

proposed grantees are the first time applicants and 10 of the 2027 proposed grantees our second year option applications which means that they scored 90 or above on their Grant application. I cannot

pass this moment by without talking about the economic impact. Investing in the arts is a wise thing for the city to do. And the Americans for the Arts a e p 6 study Saint Petersburg's nonprofit arts

and culture sector generated approximately 132 0.5 million dollars. That's how much they added to the economy. So thank you for the support and to share more about the grants. I have for Hayward all

who is the vice chair of the art advisory committee. Philip Moran from on Tampa Bay Symphony and Craig Venter from freefall Theatre. Thank you Sir less. >> Good afternoon chair, analysts and members

of the City Council. Our community members that are here today that are still here. Every dog vice chair of the art advisory committee and ceo of Florida craft art. Thank you for. The city's continued

support for the Arts. My fellow committee members and I see our work is great panelists is both an honor, but it's also a huge responsibility. The makers city of the arts. And even better place to

live is our main focus for me it's personal I grew up here I've worked at several of the organizations that this funding supports and now at lead one. Seeing firsthand what that investment means for

neighbors opportunities to learn something new to discover their own creativity and feel can to connected to the community. The kid the committee works throughout the year to refine the application

process. Helping organizations tell their stories and giving us the information we need to make thoughtful recommendations and then comes the reading but COUNCILWOMAN And with that approach me when I

was up on the same that is. She was carrying the biggest weight Binder that I'd ever seen in my life and before I even have the chance to ask her what it was. Her aide was following right behind her

with volume 2. See immediately. Let me know that she had printed out everything that we had read that summer. Those applications offer us a wonderful view of the city even after years of working in

the arts here, I'm struck by the depth and range of that work and by the thoughtful inventive ways organizations reach and serve our neighbors. Behind every application or people working hard to serve

the community. Our responsibility is to give that work careful consideration. Thank you to my fellow committee members. Pa. Too a so last to and Tracy who would not we would not be able to do what we

do without their what behind the scenes organizing. The City Council for continuing to invest in a sieve very important part of our city. The creative community. It is a privilege to help support the

work that makes in Petersburg the city law firm. Thank you you're welcome. Vice chair and members. >> I think for the opportunity to let me talk today on behalf of the 80 volunteer musicians and our

board of directors. We want to express our sincere gratitude for the Arts in grants cultural grant. You have a wide. It's a point strengthens our mission in which is our community and allows us to

bring meaningful music experience to the residents of St. Petersburg you support helped us marked for youth annual Jack Keller young artist competition. Milestone that speaks to dedications of

nurturing young music, musical talent in Florida. Many of our past winners have gone on to distinguish musical careers. And they often tell us that this competition experience was foundational Hugh

Grant also helps few. Our call for scores comp composer competition. This year we receive 16 entries from 5 different countries. Brazil one Ireland one, Portugal one. Singapore one and the us 12. This

international participation has put St. Petersburg on the global map. As the city the champions living composers and welcomes coasters I as a grant writer enjoy a streamlined process for application

funding and finally and final reporting. Your program of sharing funding with all applicants is a great testament to your love of the arts. It also shows that you can be small group or a large group.

So that everybody has a good chance to be funded. Applying for Grant is a unique process, I've been doing too. Grants for the past 2 years now. And requesting funds for classical music is hard to

express when there are so many other organizations as we've seen in the past in this meeting vying for the certain amount of money funds. The process is wonderful and I hope that other grant ers will

take your process. Council members we won we want you to know how deeply we appreciate your commitment to the arts. We recognize how fortunate we are to be based in a city that values cultural

vibrancy artistic excellence in community access to classical music. Your support strengthens on mission. Inspires our musicians and it which is the cultural life of St. Petersburg once again on

behalf of the Tampa Bay Symphony. Thank you all from from believing in us. >> Good afternoon. I'm Craig baiting or executive director of freefall Theatre. Hello from West Central Avenue. I'm also a

resident of part of the park since 2022. And I'm here today to thank you as a council and to give testimony to the importance of funding the arts in our city. For the fiscal year 27 city of the arts

Grant cycle freefall Theatre has been scored at 93.9 to receive just under $14,000. We're grateful. A few things I think are important for you to know first I'll take a moment to acknowledge the good

work of Jorge and Paul and the other members of the grants panel to observe the grants panel is to recognize that these folks dedicated a lot of time and attention to all the grant applications. The

scoring rubric of the panel's questions comments and feedback suggest a fair and unbiased process at all levels of government we should be so fortunate for all processes to operate this. Well. Now 3

ways that this grant impacts freefall Theatre one the impact on our budget free falls to fiscal year 27 budget is 1.7 million. To balance this. We're expecting close to $700,000 in ticket sales. Which

means we're relying on contributed revenue, which means support from our community. For the remained here remainder of $1 million. It's a tall order. But last year we raised $900,000 for the first

time and mostly from individuals. We need to do it again. And this $14,000 helps. In fact $14,000 is just about the exact amount of next week's payroll. So it's nice to know I have that covered. To

the impact on our people free fall theater has a staff of 9 full-time employees plus 5. Technically 7 hourly and contracted employees. Next week is our first rehearsal for the da Vinci code and we're

adding 9 actors to payroll. When you fund organizations like ours you're directly paying wages to these employees. We worked very hard to enable our actors and Theatre technicians to earn a living

wage. These are our neighbors who rent to own homes here who spend their money in our stores who live work and play right here in St. Petersburg your investment accounts. And 3 the impact on our

patient patrons. Please understand that I'm not getting political want to bring this up, but this is the 3rd consecutive year that freefall Theatre will receive no funding from the state of Florida

division of arts and culture. Our patrons have taken notice. i'd say on average once a month when a meeting with a major donor. They ask about our status with state funding. And they're never happy to

learn of it. They almost always follow it by asking about the city to which I can say yes, the city has once again stepped up to fund the arts and I will tell you how proud they are to learn that the

city of St. Petersburg shares their values that you as a council continue to fund the arts that make this a special place to live. Are people take notice. And on behalf of freefall Theatre and our

supporters I thank you. >> Thank you. Craig and Philip for being here and sharing the impact to your renovations. From the grants and what the art advisory committee does have to say you know. When

you talk about the process and how wonderful it was to go through that specifically the work of the committee and I will tell you they just finished this big process and guess what they were like how

can we improve it yet again right so last. It looked like that was the conversation months and that's a conversation every year how do we change it we get what we what do we have to do. And so we'll

when Jorge said the committee is well aware of the people working hard in our community. And the care that they show like in the meeting the questions that are at I mean this time there were so many

applications and where it was and why printed that out just to show the amount of work they read all those applications and when you go to that meeting you know they read it because of the questions

they ask. And so that is a huge testament to the work that Sun by our community. In the arts who are part of the advisory committee who care about arts because they want to make here that the money is

used in the most effective way with the largest impact and that is really the goal and so this hearing from you all and hearing that the process was wonderful and will continue to improve the in

please never hesitate to let us know if something does go wrong because trust me I will tell you we will have a conversation at the committee about it. But I want to also thank the opportunity to

thank again. The committee members that are not here. For all their work and and thank you Jorge for being here in Paul. Who are just fantastic I sit back the in that committee because I let the

experts most of the work I give bite my take every once in a while but but we do have. A very engaged committee and I'm just very thankful inner city should be very thankful for arts advisory

committee to thank you very much. Thank you chair. Thank you okay. >> a motion and the sec in. Look at the end of an issue for voting. Council members please enter your votes. Now present council

members. But it quickly selling out to vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda item f 4 passes unanimously. And that was the look I was getting like are you going to prove this or not. Thank

Okay next up we have f 3 a resolution adopting the master plan for the port of St. Petersburg good afternoon David afternoon all are you. >> Good afternoon Council chair. Thank you for the opportunity

to present the port masterplan we are excited. It is one of my favorite facilities that I have. Just a bit of a background the. The port is one of the 5th work 15 now 15 deepwater seaports of the

state of Florida. We are federally regulated. We are not big by any means really about 4 acres. But we are still an important economic driver. For the state and for the city. Our master plan is

important. A document that we have to have on file with the state for fdot for applying and receiving Grant funds. So f dot likes to have an updated plan on file every and I mean for smaller ports

like us we can get away with 20 years, but the last MARCH master plan we've done was in 1999. So we've really pushed out on up. So today's presentation is you have the full masterplan packet but

today's presentation is kind of condensing overview and kind of a highlight of the area's key areas we're focusing on. We'll take you through that. So early on we started the planning process we

engage with Moffat nickel as our consultants to lead this hole process for us. We want to look at 2 main questions how the port land can support new economic opportunities and how the port can should

prioritize prioritize future capital and operational improvements. So that process included a lot of site assessments case studies planning concepts market insight stakeholder input and implementation

strategies. The objective was to develop a flexible actionable plans spending more than 10 years. And the plan is intended to guide future decisions as market conditions technologies and community

needs involve evolved with men to change as. Surrounding city does. Community engagement was a big part of our initial planning process we recognize that the port is part of a much larger waterfront

network and that its future affects more than just the port operations alone community engagement was a major component of this and we sought input from Port users waterfront stakeholders city

departments, academic partners usf and the broader community that input helped shape the initial concepts and public engagement will continue as individual projects are developed and brought forward

for your consideration. Core tenants were identified as part of this early development process these 8 principals will guide future port development. They are the common thread throughout the master

plan and we want the port port that remains operationally relevant but contributes to the blue economy supports innovation and maintains a symbiotic relationship with the city's waterfront. These

principles also reinforce the need to balance public access with the security and maritime operations of a port facility. The initial concepts were created based off of our early public input. And

they show the different ways the port property could be organized and develop so we presented these at our public workshop in JUNE of 2025. And we asked for feedback and it's been discussion from

community stakeholders reports say holders in the community members and then it all helped identify which opportunities warranted greater attention kind of pointed us in the directions to go. So these

are very early on preliminary one was focused mostly on cruise one was focused on innovation and one was focused more on kind of that public access. So with our draft plan we took it to psni on

3/12/2026 we presented what we had our findings at that point we listened and we heard back from the community. There were 3 main priorities that we we're kind of directed towards was expand the

maritime defense technology hub through the proposed innovation hub too explore Marine maintenance and overhaul and repair mro operations and pursue public private partnerships and expand or enhance

our passenger. Terminal for smokers operation that we have. >> Important piece. But I wanted to kind of point out again the entire master plan is is 400 pages plus it's a massive plan, lots of

concepts, lots of opportunities in there so. We're not proposing to advance all right, we've we've got these key 3 ideas in these areas that we want to focus on and so by the end of this today. I

don't want you to think that we're here asking for everything in that 400 pages that is that is not the goal that we're going for here we want to adopt the plan. But these are the 3 areas of that that

we're going forward. So starting on the easternmost end of the port kind of working westward towards us f. This concept shows that That misstep Marine repair opportunity area will be adjacent to the

building and we're kind of looking at ways that they can complement each other. And so the hub has areas and tenants that need access to the water. They have expressed interest of a haul out or crane

to lift assets in and out of the water for some of their tenants that could also benefit partial Marine repair lift vessels or other service equipment in and out of the water. So this obviously would

need much more in-depth studies and analysis evaluation but this is kind of the area that we were thinking could lend itself to be part of that Marine. Repair area. The innovation hub as you know is

an existing tenant on the port property with a 32,000 square foot building hub too is the proposed next step for next building for that we have Allison Barlow ceo of the innovation district here who

needs no introduction for me, but I figured I have her step up us to better could describe hub to and where we are with that process. The Nelsons world. >> Fellow council members, thank you very much

really quick just want to highlight it for a moment, the existing hub, many of you already know quite a bit about it but it's a great example of how Saint Pete has been able to transform this port

area into an economic engine for our community since its opening in 2022 the hub has become home of innovation companies, developing technologies and maritime and coastal resilience partner to side by

side with the University of South Florida in Florida Fish and Wildlife Institute. It's attracted national attention from noaa Coast. Guard Defense Department and international partners and it value

extends beyond the entrepreneurs and the researchers occupying the building over the port past 4 and a half years we've documented dozens of business collaboration Zahn educational partnerships and

government engagements we've connected the Saint Pete community in the innovation happening there to over 50 youth tours internships with students from usf Saint Pete college Eckerd College and more

than a 100 community activities and this is what we envision as we look to expand from the current building into a future pub building as well. The approximately 50,000 square foot facility that we're

in the process of applying for grants for and working with funding partners would provide most importantly. The Bay area's or large workshop areas on that first floor that will provide waterfront

access. That's a critical need. As David said we are a unique asset in Tampa Bay and across the state being one of 15 ports and one of 3 ports in Tampa Bay. The are small size is actually an asset and

asked that we should lean into because we're able to work with the research vessels. The researchers, the test and evaluation the demos in a way that are larger counterparts across the bay can't

because they have the large cruise ships, the large vessels that they are dealing with. We do a great job among the partners within that bayboro Harbor area. The conflicting we're running right now a

demo this week on a device, its autonomous that does seagrass mapping and mowing it for students of the university and also popped mental partners. You might have read last week about saildrone out of

Tampa Bay out of Saint Pete out of this building doing the work of the hurricane mapping and tracking. So you can see the what we could do more of. That's a little bit of the video or picture of the

building. The adjacent to the current building 50,000 square feet to have that first floor be bays with port access and then offices accompanying spaces on the second and 3rd floor. The idea is that

we would lean into even more that the technology. The maritime areas, the research collaboration. Many of you MAY know that we brought in a lot of the folks from the College of marine science after

the fire. And we'll be holding a space for them for the next couple of years so quickly running out of space. And this is a picture of that first floor which is the most unique floor it shows on the

right side, the current hub and on the left side, those 3 bays with a little bit of a communal area. The other upper floors would have like a loft area for offices and then the other offices above so

we're really excited. We see this as an opportunity to position the port of Saint Pete is nationally recognized for maritime innovation while creating jobs, attracting investment and expanding

opportunities, thanks. >> And then the final kind of eastward section of the poor closest to us f. We would consider that area for the small cruise development and opportunity to leverage the

waterfront wall of valuing the economics obviously of it all this is again very ambitious it shows about a 600 foot pier addition to the existing Wharf. Double-sided that essentially doubles the

workspace of the port right now we have 1200 linear feet of workspace so if we go out 600 on a parallel to the usf we could potentially theoretically do it. It's a very large build we know that but

again with the cruise industry we would be looking for those public private partnerships. This also considers kind of a new access to the port right so the council considers how passenger arrivals

terminal operations ground transportation security and that access could be organized more effectively. We don't have a lot of space out front for bringing in passengers buses. Ubers you know Rogers

all that stuff so the intent here is to create a functional gateway that supports Cruz activity that remain sensitive to the ports limited size and location on 8th ave Southeast. And again this is no

by no means a final terminal design here this is still poorly conceptual we need to convict continue evaluating the viability of those types of facilities and buildings and access to that area of the

port. But this does build upon the existing. Cruz operation we have operating out of the port we have American cruise lines will be there forth. Year I believe operating out of the port Huron 3 ships

a week for the season, the six-month season that they run they'll be back into port on Nov., 3rd and will run through next APRIL. They have expressed interest in a public private partnership were

development of a passenger terminal for the passengers to weight load disembark and also expansion of appear as it could help stage more vessels in the future as they develop more southeastern routes

here right now we're in Saint Pete. 2 key West and back on a date night trip overnight and they have their last 2 nights the board in Saint Pete if their last 2 nights in Saint Pete aboard and that's

where we link up with Mahaffey the pier sunken gardens and they kind of get bust all around the city. Capital investment again everything is purely conceptual this is all very high level. >> High-

level planning estimates they're not final construction budgets by any means but just a couple of kind of the main points there is the estimated terminal in crew center could range anywhere from 26

million to 40 50 million and the estimated range for the mro area and the innovation hub in total between 60 in a 120 million honestly by that point. But these figures also do not permitting design

the soft costs, potential utility and infrastructure upgrades so again as we get into these projects. The approach we do evaluate each proposed phase independently. There will be detailed market and

financial analysis determined to determine if there are infrastructure requirements and identify appropriate funding strategies again we have as a port access to state and federal dollars.

Appropriations and public. There are private investment as well. So the objective here again is to not come into port to a large unfunded capital program that is the last thing we would like to do.

And so key takeaways from all this again last study we had was in 99. We are required to have a current master plan on file at least with Department of Transportation for those Grant funds. We have

narrowed the focus of that entire plan down to these 3 main areas, the innovation the mro and the small cruise and we will in their own right respectfully evaluate each aspect of that as we move

forward with any projects before we bring them to you for consideration, they will have definite market demand studies viability states financial analysis of it all the deals will be done. With that

open it up to feedback questions report to discuss it you force a public comment first. Jayson Mathis please go to either podium state your name and address for the record you have 3 minutes to

address City Council and I I don't need 3 minutes Jason Mathis with the St. Petersburg downtown partnership. We're located at 2, 4, 4 2nd Avenue North in beautiful downtown. I just wanted to commend

day for all of his work on this project. It's been thoughtfully kunst constructed I think that it makes a ton of sense. You know we as a city decided a long time ago to put our resources into a

waterfront Park and not a big working poor and I think that was a wise decision I think it served us really well. We've got this beautiful discreet little port. We haven't always activated in the best

possible way the maximum way for economic development and this takes us to the next level. Mostly want to of all of his work the work of the consultants to put this together they really did listen to

the public and then I also wanted to thank all of you as I always do for your service and means a lot and I don't say that I don't want to ever be a cliche when you put yourself out there in the

public and commit to doing good things for your community, it's not easy and I really appreciate each and every one of you for the work that you do so thanks very much. I hope you support this

adoption of this public of this master plan, thank you. Thank you. And the other speakers know the speaker's MADAM Chair council member Jessica, thank you. >> David thank you for all of the work that

you do I know you're excited about this. You know we've talked about it. You know brought forward and taking out there to the public. And I just really appreciate all of your passion that you put into

this and also your expertise >> Maybe. I think you even know more than Allison about the port. But I do love the way that you to work together as well and I appreciate all of the considerations for

our success that we've had at on the port at for the near time in defense technology hub, and also for the partnership with American cruise. 2. Not only serve them now that keep them in the

conversation about how we can collaborate to serve this stirs even better in the future. And I love seeing that part of this plan. Depending on what happens. With the referendum item regarding the

portly says that could served to accelerate some of this and I and hopeful and can't wait to see. What happens next with this. >> One thing as I was looking through. The master plan itself and on

pages 6, 7, you've got the map and kind of a key to all of the different areas and I was thinking back to when we have that the psni committee meeting. The priorities that we put forward. You've

illustrated here in the presentation. But then when we look on the map there's a lot that's. Kind of air MARCH for recreation and this is their opportunities. More than I think was expressed as a

priority by the committee at that time and I do wish that this and come back to like committee of the whole are some that have before we first and final input before we get a chance to vote on it but

you're er. The on the ledge and item number 2 we've got recreational boating and super yacht Marina. That appears to be like directly in front of on the water side. And we just finished talking about

how the access to that water is so important to the hot and for the expansion for the Center for coastal resilience. Why would you elect and I know this is conceptual but if they're in the first

place. If we know that we need we need that space for the hob. It's it's a great question and to your point yes, it is extreme to plea conceptual at the time we were going through this process we were

not as as far along as you say as we are with the hub to now. To was still part of kind of conceptual options of what we could do with that space and so with I think we did we through kind of

everything in those renderings all it wants to show the whole host of everything that is possible. And then after aps and I we went back and we looked at uttering the plan is a need. The way that that

whole book flows together that plan flows together with those conceptual images to change those little tweaks and everything would have to kind of remarried and re orchestrate a lot of that and it was

just outside the scope of our budget we had left for this project that at the time. Again this this project is half Grant funded from dot Grant. Unfortunately the it was just outside the scope of the

budget to to make all of those necessary changes to just reflect pub to is the priority get rid of the marina slips since that was not a priority. And French angel, those renderings okay, thank you

and now I understand that better. >> And I want to make sure everyone is clear that's paying attention to this that everything that you see here is not exactly what's going to happen. Just like when

we're presented the wasn't years Chris and the. The Center for the Arts master plan which included the demolition of Al Lang Stadium and we know that's not going to happen. It does make me a little

bit nervous when we bring forward master plans that have everything but the kitchen sink in it. And that's why I wanted to get some of this stuff clarified because. We're certainly not trying to turn

the port into a playground. Well it is very niche as Jason mentioned when he spoke. You know it's and and Allison too having a smaller pour like its been under-recognized but we don't want it to be

over to evade it. By that I mean we have and we have the peer we have so many other assets along the waterfront that brings me to another question regarding then Marine repair and in the committee I

had asked and 2. Maybe look further into what some of our private businesses and developers are planning to do because my understanding at that time was that at least one of the Marine repair

businesses was going to be kept and. And remain open. So which would eliminate our fear of not having any of those resources here at is when enough I don't know. But I'm not sure about dedicating that

much space to marine repair and having when we have other places where even we could find for people to take their boats for repairs. Yeah, absolutely and again it purely conceptual on that kind of

went for everything we can possibly throw in there. So that that area that that build over the water that we show it for the Marine, your research. I mean I think some of those images show hauling out

some significantly large yachts in that area. That MAY not necessarily be the case obviously we have some of the larger yacht haul out on the Tampa side and up in tarpon Springs side. The salt Creek

area did see a significant reduction in both yards. But there are still service yards there. So this could function as an extension of those yards is again. Allison are going to vote you aren't we

don't we know a lot we don't know that so it could be public private partnership or an expansion of a salt Creek yard into the port area bayboro Harbor on that side just as another Hall out or a

staging area or you know something prop worker some lighter work on that is and we don't want to turn that section, especially between of and coastguard into a full-blown operational boatyard those

are gritty and dirty and a lot of debris and stuff like that so anyway could complement that kind of service will be happy to evaluate further. And again you know Allison has expressed interest in a

need for a crane of some sort or a larger hauling out things so if that can be utilized and in a complimentary way we're happy to explore that. Yes. If I can add that is a great point I won't belabor

it but cranes or those type of things out are expensive right. And so if we can find multiple uses so whether it's using it in the innovation capacity, but also for research vessels and for our

commercial vessels and things like that. I think this is one of those cases were going to try to find the best win win to make it a viable thing for a partner to come to the table so that we get the

best possible equipment. And plane will keep the dream of the crane alive, yes, okay, that's pretty much. All I had I just I really wanted to make that point that this is really the world of

possibilities and as we move forward, it will be definitely a specialized approach. And David under years continues. Stewardship of the port I know that it's going to be successful. So thank you thank

you. And Beth, a new year here in Extra assistance is needed and so I will thank you while you're here for all that you do. Thank you MADAM Chair. Thank I'll try to keep it brief. Because everything's

been covered but I want to number When it focus conceptual again because up to a conceptual conceptual. And I want to include the disclaimers on the cost I focus on the cost of first time around the

estimated costs which were not really detailed in terms of like what they were and I want to make for those that are watching or listening. You know we're looking originally it was you know when 50

million to 70 million now we're looking about 93 million to one 63 million based on. But you brought down that's in today's costs. Originally it would take 10 to 20 years. What does that just now the

changes is still 10 to 20 years. I would assume it's a 10 to 20 year plan. So bottom line 2 days costs is not 10 years from now or 20 years from now so that number's going to be much larger and and it

does not include soft costs. So everybody can keep it in perspective in terms of what is before us. But again you need to plan for. All the purpose of the discussed. I'll entertain a motion. Rushing

in the second clerk if you can open the >> Seeing it up for the council members voted clerk police telling us vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda item f 3 passes unanimously. Thank you and

thank you for your work on this thank you all for being here. Next up we have new ordinances, easy one. Clerk if you can read the ordinance. >> Rose ordinance number 7.68 dash town and once amending

the future. Map of the comprehensive plan for the city of St. Petersburg Florida, changing the future land use map designation for a 0.2 6 acre Emma well portion the parcel located at 4, 2, 0, 1,

Forest north from Henry development, residential p r dash r 2 planned redevelopment mixed use pr dash in you, providing for repeal of conflict in ordinances and provisions thereof and providing for an

effective date. The public you for this item is Nov., the 5th. Ordinance number 8, 0, 3 Desi and boards and many the official zoning map of the city of St. Petersburg Florida. It into the zone where a

0.2 6 acre and allow portion and the parcel located and for 2, 0, 1, 4, Street north from neighborhood traditional dash one in t dash one 2 corridor commercial suburban dash one c c s dash one

providing for repeal of conflict in provisions thereof and provided for an effective date. The public you for this item is Nov., the 5th and we do not have any cards. That can have a motion a second

for commuting up in a McCain for voting. Council members please enter in that a person council members voted clerk Kelly announced vote. Chair the motion to approve the agenda item is the one hand you

want to be passes unanimously. Thank you clerk if you greedy too. >> Because or Dec. 6, 5, 4 dash ph and boards of the city of St. Petersburg Florida. The vessel. Exclusion zone within the lagoon at

Cook. He knows he Park. And many of the city code to add a new section 7. Dash 1, 0, 4, cook a key part to do limiting the game 2 vessels under wars or and are still only we're providing boundaries

providing penalties providing for severability and providing for an effective date. The pump up here for this item is Nov., the 5th and we do not have any cards. Thank for that. >> It could have a

motion a second councilmember to school. Thank you I want to thank Heather jet for her work on this we did receive feedback from fwc on this request and they had recommended that we include swimming

as an activity in it as part of the day. The documentation. So that was an easy adjustment to make its way it looks very very slightly different. And we're just thrilled that we have the support of

fwc moving this forward and I look forward to. Seeing the results. Thank you. Thank you, thank you councilmember just look for the work from this. We have a motion second clerk if you can up in the

making for voting council members please enter your vote seen present council members have voted clerk Ali announce the vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve or deny them a 2 passes unanimously.

Thank u next up the one councilmember Givens thank you chair. Well after the doordash incident involving a city vehicle. I had a conversation with raw and also with Claude on just involving doing a

deeper dive on city vehicle usage and the technology that we use to monitor that usage. So it was recommended that we are hopefully get with our Tech team it just to find out more about how we can

understand better trust. Utilize the system so that we don't lose transparency interests when it comes to city vehicle usage in our policies. So respectfully requesting referral to the public services

and infrastructure Committee were other relevant committee to discuss the usage of city vehicles, including policy surrounding city vehicle usage and the technology used to monitor and audit usage

with moved approval. And much as second vice chair Floyd q a. i'm interested in the conversation see where it goes. But you know around the time I got here just before that there was a big Well with

between the administration and the union about surveillance and the vehicles and I still I'm inclined not to support that just because we had one employee who felt like she we need to do something

that was inappropriate and so interest in the conversation, but if it turns in that direction you lose me pretty quickly. Thank you okay. Councilmember fix centers. Thank you when I initially saw it I

I take you back to the fine line between the City Council involvement in hr and I do understand that there MAY be an issue but I don't know how in death City Council needs to get into hr and

administration's concerns. And I do need to know if im going to ask this of you administrative areas based on that particular incident has administration not been charged with reviewing. The mean we

can't follow employees and I agree with councilmember Floyd on the surveillance. But I'm sure that there's conversations going on internally in regards to how we can better monitor that without

getting City Council involvement in h r issues. Well thank you councilmember. I appreciate that and you know we have a really robust program on how we monitor vehicle usage vehicle uses is important

we have a lot of vehicles in the city of St. Petersburg there are costs associated with that. So we would be happy to come and report on how we monitor vehicles what we do you know I think this would

be more Randel Johnson and fleet talking about the systems that we have it wouldn't be our intent to get into any particular human resource issue okay, okay, I just want to make sure we're clear on

that that we just talking about well with what you all are doing and not. Openly giving recommendations to hr issues because as long as I've been on Council I've been so that that is not a boundary

that we are supposed to cross and I want to make sure that we are having that conversation as an update. Okay all right, I'm good. Thank you thank you councilmember Harding I think might my comments

relate back to what to tie together with both councilmember said I I see this as a major issue. I reviewed the policies that we have on on vehicles. I find it pretty standard policies. Unfortunately,

this person did something wrong got caught and was punished for it. In the only other thing that we could add to that aside from policy wise. It is is being able to track those vehicles if those if

folks in certain positions are allowed to take their vehicles home the idea of tracking doesn't sit well with me. Inside I don't I don't see this is rising to the level of something City Council needs

to get involved in that I see this as an hr issue and more to the point I see this particular case is a major issue that was handled well. It is very unfortunate that someone chose to do this but but

administration is faced with with hr issues like this routinely we have a staff of 3800 people sometimes these things just happen. I am I'm I'm sad about what happened. That's unfortunate. I'm okay

with how how that not of him. I appreciate the way that that that administration handle an outage soon be done with that thank you chair. Thank you if I go back to you councilmember Givens. I'll just

say look when I read this the reality is it's just. >> Discussing the use of city that oppose a conversation that we're having here we can have a committee. It's gonna be a general conversation and

it's not going to get into anything specific so I don't mind having the conversation frankly I think we've had conversations committee meeting some things that we don't control many times and so I'm

fine with that because we've done it in different subjects and I don't think it's going to focus on that and frankly there are things that we probably couldn't discuss and how it's going to be a

general conversation so with that being said councilmember Harvey. >> You know all about okay. I thought you'd like to speak again, okay with that being said we have a motion second clerk if you can

open the machine for voting council members please enter your votes seeing that are present council members a vote a clerk please telling out to vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda item g

one passes 71, with councilmembers tree school fix. Sanders Floyd gabbard Curtis Givens in hand with voting. Yes, councilmember Harvey voting no. Thank u next up we have g to councilmember Curtis.

Respectfully requesting or for the budget finance and taxation committee for a discussion on potential amendments in the in town cre redevelopment plan to include funding options for improvement

initiatives. And I move approval. Thank you have a motion a second clerk if you can open the machine for voting council members please enter your votes. Ended up for the council members that voted

clerk Ali announce the vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda item g 2 passes unanimously next up we have g 3 councilmember Curtis. Very much MADAM Chair, this comes out of our joint cbbc the

council meeting respectfully requesting referral to the committee of the whole for discussion on the creation on the possibility of a creation of the task force are similar by for the purposes of

historic preservation master plan. Move approval second the motion second clerk if you can open the machine for voting council members please enter into depression council members a vote a clerk

please telling announce the vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda item g 3 passes unanimously. Thank u next up is my item h one. It is a committee report action item respectfully requesting

City Council approval to remove the following item from the public services and infrastructure Committee referral less presentation discussion regarding the use of ai permitting software from

councilmember gabbard and it's kept and expand the scope of the referral item a discussion on the citywide strategy for artificial intelligence adoption, including use cases data governance risk

management and budgetary implications for councilmember Harding to incorporate the contents of permitting referral item we'll prove it. Thank you. And motion second clerk if you can open in mission

for voting council members please enter your votes. I think present council members have voted quickly selling out. Chair the motion to approve agenda item h 1, 8, passed unanimously. Thank you.

Council members, I know that we got documentation while we were here if you want to take a break to review that before we go through h one h 3 and h 4 I will grant that if not if everyone is ready to

go we can take those I if I want to give at least a courtesy to the council members here if they wanted to if anybody wants to review it. We can take a little break we can continue going forward. Good

I'm good. Okay, I don't see anybody saying that you're not good. So with that we're going to h 2. I told her 15, 22 a Sixers action item we'll start councilmember gabbard. All right item h 2

respectfully requesting City Council approval of a resolution supporting the creation of a resilience advisory committee and I so move I can in the motion a second councilmember guard us very much

MADAM Chair. I was not in attendance. This morning hers, but I did watch it and obviously been following and just frankly just wanted to say thank you to the committee I think you guys have done a

really good job here. I thought the discussion it was well done well thought out I appreciated all the sentiment and I just I didn't want to go through these votes without just saying I think you guys

that are really good job we came out of place, especially a few weeks before some of these initiatives are going to go to our voters and so just thank you so much for the work really well done. Thank

you, MADAM Chair. Thank you to do. They have a motion a second. We do this. Work if you can open the machine for many council members please enter your votes that are present council members a vote a

clerk police telling us a vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda. The item h 2 a passes unanimously a councilmember covered. Respectfully requesting City Council approval of a resolution

supporting the creation of a general obligation bond advisory committee and I so move. Thank you Moshe second. We have public comment. Amber Woods. That he ran for Woods is in the audience. Again I

think the committee for all the work this point the only thing I will say and I told this when I spoke to the Sierra Club on this item is the only thing that I have a concern about is always putting

the cart before the horse. The election is in NOVEMBER. Worst we're doing this. And. And it's very different than doing what we're doing with the fire fee because a fire fee we're going through a

profit process we haven't established a fire fee right because we're going to see what happens in NOVEMBER. And so whenever we do action like this and we create something without the public completely

voting and I understand Sierra club's position but it can also backfire so but with that being said I'll support it so. We have a motion a second. His neighbor was was in support of the I'm okay Park

and you can open the machine for voting. Council members please enter your votes in that all present council members a vote a clerk please telling announce the vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to reject

item h passes 71 with councilmembers fix. Sanders Florida gabbard Curtis Givens and what's an art in voting. Yes, the council member driskell voting. Thank u next up we have h 4 a respectfully

requesting City Council approval of a resolution supporting the resilient by nature program, including the development of administrative policy and I so move. Thank you. We have a motion a second

clerk if you can open machine for voting. Council members please enter boats. You get a present council members of broke voted clerk please telling us vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda

item h for a passes unanimously. Next up we have public hearings that start at 5 oh one with that being said we're in recess. Thank you everyone for you. >> Wafa. One behalf. >> Wow. >> Staff. >>

Yeah. >> In >> Whataburger. And one behind. >> In the City Council meeting. And again on our public starting with. Items Ga one 2, 3, Seeing no request. These over the machine. >> Single present

council members voted look for the selling announce the vote. MR. Vice chair, the motion to approve agenda items, Ga one Ga 2 nj 3 passes unanimously with and what's being absent. Thank you we're

moving on to item j says we have a presentation by Ben Morey but we need to first have that. Those are just numbers 6.50 dash h influence of the city of St. Petersburg many of the city code to

increase parking permit penalties provided in section 26 dash one 67 a any section 26 dash one 68 related to residential parking permits to increase permit fees adjust elgibility criteria. And

duration of permits in make updates to the program generally. The men's section 26 dash one 70 to increase the downtown parking permit fee amends section 26 dash one 72 to increase the removal. Charge

of the immobilization device providing for severability and providing for an effective date and we do have a card on this move approval. >> Council members feel they need the presentation. We've

become why didn't it. You know Okay we can get a public comment. Max we can. Please go to the podium state your name and address for the record you'll have 3 minutes to address City Council. >> Thank

you, thanks everybody Maxima can 3rd Avenue South and 27th Street South just want to quickly voice my support for this it's good that we're updating these violations. I'm especially glad that we can

use some of this revenue for safe streets improvements. This is a nice step forward next everybody. >> Re fleece say. I think this is. Totally logical thing to do in that some of our hurting these are

violations were cheaper than the cost is to park on some days in downtown and so I personally witnessed a lot of illegal parking people just blatantly doing it because they decided to just be better

to pay a ticket, so I'm happy to see this go for that reason and also using this funding for safe streets will be beneficial for everyone so. Having said that seeing no further requests to speak will

the clerk Commission probing. Council members and your votes. Single person council members voted with the party's tying up telling announce the vote. MR. Vice chair of the motion to approve agenda

item j 6 passes unanimously with councilmember and what's being absent and the thank you. We're going to go to item j 5 now we have the court please read the title. Oppose abortion are 6.49 dash age

and boards of the city of St. Petersburg amending section 27 dash 5, 0, 5, of the city code related to the use of brush disposal sites and the penalties for violent violating this section providing

for in appeal process and providing for an effective date and we do not have any concept of can. >> To speak will the clerk please of mission for voting. And some members of your votes, a single

person council members voted with the party selling announce the vote. MR. Vice chair, the motion to approve agenda item j 5 passes unanimously with councilmember and what's being absent. >> All the

ordinance we poured in the first. Proposed ordinance number 6.48 dash h and Lawrence and many the St. Petersburg city code section, 16.30 1, 0, 6 3.1 points 8.1 increasing the regulated in intensity

distance from quarter mile to half a mile from the summer brt that's it. Best at rapid transit overlay urban stationary a time adding a footnote or find the regulation. We're 2 maximum intensity

distance really I overlap providing for severability and providing for the effective date and we do have a card of this one. >> Thank you vice chair as in all other business. It is come before the

council related to this topic. And you and run a business that is in this geography so I abstain from from being involved in this topic in the news myself to get it done. Thank you MISTER. >> I again

I repeat what I said during for this is a cleanup item I appreciate Derek and the team's work on this and I'm glad we're moving this forward a move approval and the break. >> We have a motion I don't

request to speak. We've had this presentation a few times we're going to count. On behalf of pse Allen the thank you all for this extension on that thank you chair, vice chair Janet. Okay seeing no

further requests people hurt please open the she wrote in councilmember Susan euros. Oh I'm so sorry. Well, let's and vote. >> No I was told there was a party. Well sort of. Max we can please go to

the podium state your name and address for the record you'll have 3 minutes to address City Council. Thank you can 3rd Avenue South in 27th Street South. I will keep it super short just want to say I

live 2 blocks away from this area that we're updating right now and I'm really excited to have more housing options and more customers to support these businesses in Grand Central that's an important

component of this. Update so thank you appreciate it. >> Seeing no further request for that. So members reason your votes. So you know present council members voted with the Berkeley stalling announce

the vote. MR. Vice chair, the motion to approve agenda item j 4 passes unanimously with councilmember and what's being absent and councilmember Harding week using himself. >> Ordinance number 11 a

dash feet and or is it approve the vacation of the 7th Avenue South right away between 34th and 35th Street South in the at would we and would replant a subdivision generally located at 3, 4, 3, 0,

Fairfield Avenue South setting forth conditions with the Cajun to become effective in providing for an effective date and we do not have any cars on this or. Move approval, second. >> And if I

everyone's comfortable with it and reviewed the materials that we can to forward so you know see no requests to speak with the Seeing a person council members voted with her selling and also the. MR.

Vice chair, the motion to approve the agenda item j 7 passes unanimously with councilmember and what's being absent. Thank you. Straight item j. >> The proposed ordinance number 1181 dash fyi in order

to prove the vacation of the 7th Avenue South right away a budding lots 1, 2, 3, in Of the general aren't to replant subdivision generally located at 4, 4, 5, 1, 8th Avenue South setting forth

conditions for the vacation to become effective in providing for an effective date and we do not have any course of this year were brutal. Thank you. >> Requests to speak with Berkeley's open road.

Some members and your votes seeing a person council members voted announce the vote. MISTER Vice chair the motion to approve the agenda item j 8 passes unanimously with councilmember and what's being

absent. Thank you thank you. >> We have a quasi judicial item next. I 2 see if we can pull for the chair to come back before this the but determination of the legal. So that we can have everyone here.

Yeah, absolutely parents up to you whether you would want to have a recess. Yes, I'm told she should be here. Ok cool all right well then we'll recess into for. So we'll call it to it's been 20. I

thank you, you know whatever but 20. >> Yeah. >> We. With that. >> We start to and the cj 9 a and b. If a private issue application for a point for 3 acre parcel generally located at the southeast

corner of Second Avenue North and 31th, 35th Street South. This is quasi judicial so it's going to happen is that I'm going to be reading from a script. So if I look like I'm reading from a script.

It's because I'm reading from a script. So with that being said anyone wishing to speak on this item must fill out a yellow card and provided to the city clerk. And all speakers must be sworn in

before presenting testimony. The rules, Rick was a huge issue proceedings can be found on the yellow Shia pash to the printed agenda is or if you in debt to the Lee pages 15 through 16 of the council

agenda. Corky please wearing all parties and speakers, including city staff. Where can you please read the ordinance title. Proposed ordinance number 7.66 dash out and many of the future land use map

of the comprehensive plan for the city of St. Petersburg Florida. Changing the future land use map designation where a 0.4 3 acre Al parcel Jerry located at the southeast corner of Second Avenue North

and 35th Street north from residential medium rm to planned redevelopment mixed use. Pr dash m u providing for repeal of conflict provisions thereof in providing for an effective date. Proposed

ordinance number 8, 0, one dash z and or in some ending. The official. The official zoning map of the city of St. Petersburg Florida changing the zoning where a 0 point for 3 acre out parcel generally

located at the southeast corner of Second Avenue North and 35th Street north from neighborhood suburban multi-family dash one ns and dash one. 2 corridor commercial suburban dash one c c s dash one

providing for repeal of conflict in ordinances and provisions. They're of providing for an effective date and we do have some parts manager. >> Good Britain, Wilson city planner presenting proposed

land use and zoning amendments initiated by the property owner Saint Vincent de Paul cares. And the purpose of amendments is to allow for multifamily affordable housing. The subject property is a 0.4

3 acre vacant lot located a block in to the west of 34th Street North and a block north of First Avenue North. 34 Street North also known as us 19 is a principal arterial roadway supporting suburban

to oriented commercial uses such as a self storage facility located at the top right. Followed by the walmart Supercenter directly next door to the subject property is the Saint Vincent de Paul thrift

store. That on Central Avenue are the central Plaza commercial strip buildings and just outside of the image to the Southeast is the psta bus transfer station. And then the sun runner activity center

then there is office retail insurance and make banking to the south of the site to the north are apartments and to the West or single-family homes in the Central Park neighborhood Association. This is

the future land use map showing the subject property has designated residential medium or r m which is proposed for amendment 2 planned redevelopment mixed use our pr mu to match the adjacent property

to the east and South. And the hatched area represents the sun or activity center overlay. This is a zoning map where the subject property is currently zoned neighborhood suburban multifamily or

someone and has proposed for change to corridor commercial suburban or ccs one shown in red a property. Directly East and South and is consistent with the ccs one death. As it extends on pretty much

the entire stretch since 19 as demonstrated in this zoning extent map where the star is the subject property. And it is in keeping with the overall commercial death on this roadway. The change in

zoning from someone to ccs one will provide for a little increase in development, potential as a residential density remains the same at 15 units per acre and the work force housing bonus remains the

same at 8 units per acre. But the loud development intensity and impervious surface increases slightly and the main difference and the change in zoning as allowance for commercial mixed use.

Development and the ability to take advantage of Senate bill one or 2. Also known as the live local act that allows multifamily to be built commercials on property at a density of up to 82 units per

acre. If at least 40% of the units are at or below a 120% of the area's median income. As noted in a staff report. The proposed amendments are consistent with many policies of the comprehensive plan.

It's a highlight a few. The proposal furthers these policies as it will facilitate the construction of affordable housing. It provides for compatible and logical land use transition. And is consistent

with established character of the us 19 corridor. So Steph did receive public input this morning from 2 adjacent neighbors who object to the proposal that increase density and the commercial

encroachment into the neighborhood and generally stating that the applicant has not been a good neighbor has a vacant site has been a nuisance in regards to trash in crime. And with that staff

recommends a finding of consistency with the comprehensive plan for the proposed future land use change from residential medium to planned redevelopment mixed use and concurrent rezoning change from

neighborhood suburban multifamily to court our commercial suburban. Because it furthers provisions of the conference of plan and is consistent with the neighborhoods established land use and zoning

pattern and that concludes my presentation and happy to answer any questions you MAY have. Thank you. They're registered opponent for this item. It will move on to public comment. You have any cards.

Yes, MADAM Chair, we have 2 cards when I call your name please go public in I could of them, I'm sorry presentation but I'm sorry that I MISS That the applicant and the presentation. Thank you.

Another presentation, the app to have a presentation. There is no other presentation. Now we can take public com. >> When I call your name please go to an open podium state your name and address for

the record you have 3 minutes to address City Council. Kim Van one guard and Valerie. We're going. >> Thank you good evening chair members of the council name is Kim Van when guard and I live at 35

13nd Avenue North. Within 300 feet of the property in application from 84. But if in the neighborhood for about 6 years now. I'm here to respectfully also to deny this application and I do want to be

clear that my concern is not about who lives who would potentially live in this property. My concern is the zoning being requested this application aust to rezone this parcel to card a commercial.

This parcel is not on the corridor. It is not on 34th Street. It sits on 35th Street North and Second Avenue North both residential streets directly across from single-family bungalows commercial

zoning belongs to 34th Street moving on to our residential block. The ship's the commercial line into the neighborhood and once that line moves the next line the next lot becomes easier to rezone as

well. Second the notice is the purpose of this change is multi-family housing, but ccs one permits for more than housing and it allows retail as was previously presented. So if the goal is housing why

does this parcel need commercial zoning. 3rd parking a speech dependence be parking neighbors, many of them have multiple multiple cars in large homes. I often cannot parking from own home which is

unnerving and concerning at night in particular to adding more units plus potential customers for any commercial use that's more cars on the streets that have no room left. 4th commercially Springs

deliveries longer hours lighting noise and more traffic right next to homes where families live and sleep. And finally this neighborhood has a real identity, not the 34th Street identity, the 35th and

Second Avenue North identity. We have older Florida been close to transition to from 34th Street corridor to our quiet residential streets is part of what makes it work into this change would erode

that transition. So I respectfully ask the council to deny from 84 and at a minimum I also this parcel remain residential only in keeping with the homes around it on 35th Street North and Second

Avenue North. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Next speaker. >> That evening, I'm again, thank you for listening to my comments I am the owner and resided 3, 5, 0, 1, 2nd Avenue North. Directly

catty corner across from this property. Whatever is built there. I'm going to be looking directly at it out my front porch, my front windows whatever it might be. This is a concern to me that we MAY

look at putting 30 units over there or to kens point it could even become something completely different without having to come back to Council for approval. I want to be clear I support helping

people who are experiencing homelessness they are near and dear to my heart. But supporting the mission is not the same as every development having to be for that particular purpose. And every density

and every location are not the right one. This request would change the land use designation and zoning from the 0.4 3 acre parcel based on my conversations with the planning staff the proposed change

would allow 4.30 homes. Compared to the 10 currently that some 4. Could pursue as I mentioned mixed use development without returning to you for approval. So the decision is about more than adding

homes. It is about expanding what can happened on this property and the PRESIDENT That this decision can set for the rest of the city. City. Our neighborhood already faces real challenges. I have

personally waded through water above my ankles to reach my vehicle parked on the street to try to go to work in the morning. We are adding building and paved areas. This raises serious questions for

me about the storm water capacity and who's going to pay for the necessary infrastructure improvements to accommodate that number of residents or those potential businesses. 35th Street already

carries substantial vehicles and pedestrian traffic young children and teenagers live within 300 feet of this site. Traffic pedestrian safety parking lighting noise and privacy must all be evaluated

before development capacity is increased not after when we're dealing with the consequences for the residents. I also want to speak about stewardship. I pick up trash along the street multiple times

every week. The neighborhood has made progress through cleanup efforts addressing litter. And problematic okay. >> Ask you to consider and please vote no. Thank you. And the more speakers. No

speakers. Thank you now we'll move on to cross-examination each party will have 5 minutes for cross examination staff would you like to cross examine. It does African which to cross examine. >> Good

afternoon or evening in k on Henderson for the record. I have heard the really just wants her cross-examination I'm so sorry okay all right if you have nothing competitive and you can wave if you want

to wait. Thank you. Okay now we'll get to closing arguments part. Now we move to closing arguments are a battle each party will have 5 minutes to provide a closing argument rebuttal. Staff any closing

argument, a rebuttal. Does the applicant have any closing arguments for rebuttal. And Henderson again for the record and we are the applicant I'm with the applicant part of the applicant I realize

that part of what was stated was a bout the mixed use. With Vincent chin we have been very careful and not have been in the mixed use business we are really just making sure that we provide safeties

and affordable housing for those individuals who are in need. While we are asking to go up it proposes for a 6 story, 75 units we're really looking to do about 33 bedroom, one bathroom with 24 spaces.

It will be about 21 and then the rest will be ada compliant and then we'll have some bicycle spaces so I just wanted for the record to state that we are looking to increase of 32, but not going to the

maximum of 76 and we're not looking to do a mixed use we just need the density to be able to allow us to go up. >> The cause of judicial proceeding is closed and we will move on to executive session.

Council members. Council member driskell. Thank you this is for the applicant there have been some comments made about the conditions of their current of the site as it stands right now. Although

that's not part of this proceeding. You know since that was flagged. I wanted to find out if there has been any plans made to improve the conditions of the site until they construction would begin.

And address these concerns which are quite valid. >> Sure they are so one of the things that we always do is also have wrap-around support services so I I can appreciate when someone comes up and

speak, we are still in very conceptual homes of a conceptual tha's of the projects that we don't have a final concept yet and so we hear the community and we're not trying to put something that

wouldn't otherwise be we definitely want to kind of include the community as we look forward to move the concept forward and having that built. We are looking to clean up and make sure that that does

not become an eyesore as we move forward but without knowing which direction we were going and coming here to get that we we have not made any plans yet. Okay thank you. What I would like to see. And

this is again this kind of a side note. The best way to get the community involved is to be a good neighbor to start and that includes making sure that the area's kept clean. Free of hazards free of

litter. And make it make it look like you care about the neighborhood. Noted thank you, thank you, thank you, MADAM Chair, thank you councilmember think Sanders. Thank you in that was pretty much my

same line of request is because I know exactly where this light is and my concern is because I know is right behind your store. And right now it is somewhat quiet and I can see the concern of the

residents with you going up in adding to the congestion of the street parking lot on that and in my mind I wish I had a better opinion of Saint Vincent de Paul in the care of the trash and in those

that you you say you serve. I just want to make sure that you have someone on site 31 and to ensure that you know because to me when you don't take care of where your residents are is not only saying

that you don't care about the neighborhood which you don't care about the residents. I didn't because they deserve a quality of life just like everyone else in any place that we choose to put them

should not be substandard so if you're looking to put these residents in that neighborhood I know exactly where it is if you're looking to put those business in that neighborhood. We want them to

blend. We don't want them to be an obvious ok now I know what I'm looking at it. Because you will be doing yourself a disservice just because I do hope to You know I don't know what your timeline

news. Even if I'm cow so I'm gonna come Bay in make sure that I address it because I agree with the residents wholeheartedly that are going to walk outside in the if I see what I see. You know in

other areas, I'm going to be that person because I am an advocate for are announced and I want to make sure that they're going to get the same care concern is any other homeowners in the city of St.

Petersburg so please let that be my request and then when we're moving forward with that that you're giving that care and concern to them as well as to partnership with those homeowners that you are

looking to build that that because of going up or have any story stories did you say you'd be looking to go about to maximum 3 stories okay desco make issues difference in an online. In that

neighborhood that is going to make a huge difference. Yes is right off of 34 Street. But I do know that neighborhood and that is definitely gonna make a major difference for those neighbors. So I will

leave it at that. But I just wanted to voice all record I can bank rate because I do agree with the homeowners but more importantly. The residents that you are warning to serve should have the best

and they should be in the best surroundings which means safe clean and healthy. Thank you chair. Thank you. We're gonna cancel members Givens legal I just want to touch base this hearing is about land

use. And then so the focus is on not this that what's going to happen in the future with the site right. So this is for map amendment or rezoning and land use as some of the comments said changing

from one category to another is changing the allowable use lights and so they might have a stated plan for the property but that's not anyway locked in are decided in this hearing, it's just are you

comfortable with the rezoning the future land use map and the calculations for density and intensity that are coming with that change. Okay councilmember Givens thank you chair. I do have a couple of

questions on specifically on for you as the applicant in regards to. How this is gonna harmoniously work with the current neighborhood plan now I'm I'm in support of it I think it's consistent with

the comprehensive plan also believe that it's consistent with the neighborhoods established character. But I want to know what is your plan as the developers of this property. How do you plan on

complimenting what's already in place. There's a neighbor who spoke a little bit about the historic architecture of the neighborhood the bungalows what is your plan for complementing that care. So

we've gone into other think Saint Vincent is known for a mixture of things not just for congregate shelter, but also affordable housing and we've gone through many different municipalities in one of

the things that we've always made sure some community engagement so we're not death to the fact that we want to make sure that we're good neighbors also and his stated earlier we would still come back

with whatever that plan project would be before you for that approval, so we wouldn't be come in creating a project just because it's it's where we are now asking for that rezone in but we would still

have to come back for any approval for the actual project that was selected. In new left where I want to pick off which is this isn't the end all be all this is not the you again that is correct all

in one of the things I'm excited about is the opportunity to engage the current neighborhood residents right so I see a few of them here Central Park that's my district I represent it. What has your

engagement them with those residents, the current homeowners in there. So far we haven't actually gone out to do any boots on the ground engagement, I'll tell you part of that is we don't really know

where this is going to go. But once we either get approved or we have to come back we'll then have an idea which direction will be able to go hire someone to come in and give us an actual conceptual

plan so that we can bring it to the residents to say this is what we're looking forward to put there. So that's something that we've done with all of our other neighbors when we do multi-family. Fair

enough I again I see a few of them here today, so it's my hope that you all will engage. If this is to move forward and make this a harmonious effort I think it's very important what you're doing when

you're talking about providing affordable housing, especially for a vulnerable population like what you're seeking to provide housing for I fully support that but again I want to make sure as we talk

about engaging the community in making sure that the homeowners and those residents who are currently there are heard and considered they have neighborhood meetings every month I think it would be

worthwhile for you all consider attending. Thank you chair. Thank you councilmember greatness. Thank you MADAM Chair. We go I declare occasions so piggybacking off of what councilmember Givens was

saying that they don't necessarily have depending on what they propose they don't necessarily have to come back to us. It cannot as up approval of the u Senate bill one oh 2 right. Possibly or

depending on what's proposed it might be something that triggers site plan review our redevelopment plan and those are generally. A final decision of drc and would only be before you again if it was

on appeal. Okay yeah, I mean. I think that's where I'm having a little bit of a burn. It is. From anybody else that has any comments on this, but it seems to me that we're opening it up. Into interior

to the corridors on a commercial space and giving a pretty large breath and when I'm looking at. You know the criteria about. >> You know how does that how does that affect the the neighborhood the

density pattern. I mean we're talking can we go to the presentation please and go to slide. Britain and Ian do you know how many units are on the 2 apartment complexes that you've identified at the

top of the screen. Happening now North. It's a walk-up. It is low density. Believe it might be at 7 units to the acre that's the that's the Southern. >> The one the dirt going directly adjacent to the

proposed property. So to the north or apartments to the south. This insurance and baking thinking. >> There you got to you've got 2 arrows of a point of apartments right yeah, so about that one yeah.

We have any idea what the density is of that or how many units. I don't okay. It just looked bigger become I mea that no you're right it probably isn't higher density. But so that's my concern is that

we don't know what's going to come what's gonna come in not that I'm taking that into account, but there. What I'm trying to use is the criteria to go. Depending on what they did there it could affect

this criteria and that's how I'm I'm looking at that is that is that a reasonable. Use of of the criteria. I want to make sure I'm still staying in line because if we open it up. It could be all sorts

of different things depending on how they use it right and so what I'm look at the criterion I go okay they can put 32 units on that that that does affect the criteria to me but if they were to

propose 7 units. >> a criteria, 3 for land use and zoning changes whether the proposed changes would alter the population density pattern and thereby adversely affect residential dwelling units or

public schools so year point is well taken and evaluating this criteria about discussing weather moving in from the street is affecting them and positively or negatively based on the potential use. I

just want to make sure I was staying staying in line. So I I appreciate that. So that that's where my concern about this is if this were a budding first or 30 for for 34th I would have no issue

whatsoever but I think it's a worthwhile conversation to talk about do we because you can already go multifamily year. Its. By opening this up are we adversely affecting the pattern that has happened.

That's already there and that's kind of think where I'm at I haven't made a decision yet but I'd be interested in everybody else's take take on. What I hope I'm explaining okay. So I'll leave it there

for now, thanks motor. Well. Councilmember grizz I think you and I had that same conversation with another rezoning in your district and pressure Derek remembers that i can't that we had that

conversation right there Eric, which is and I think one of the speakers touched upon that which I think it was Kim who mentioned about the fact ok you start here. And I had that same conversation I

can't remember the development was it was a church, the Pasadena church thing. And it's like ok and the next one comes to us and it's like well, they have it on the south side and it's on the East

Side and then you have in neighborhood that adversely affected. It could be this neighborhood. It could be historic Kenwood it could be any other neighborhood in the city. >> But then that changes the

character of the neighborhood and by the way what we're making decisions right now is on land use has nothing to do with what they're going to the future because we have no idea to your point. We have

no idea how this is going to land and so when you're looking at it you are looking at those uses and then if you change that right that are and if you look at the map or a change is that then you can

look at the next one and you can make the same argument then they can make the same argument and the same argument and I've had that issue and it's come up. And I'm concerned about going into the

neighborhoods. There is a use they're ready that allows residential and so I get where you're coming from because I think we've had this conversation before and the issue is when does it stop. And

then it's the same argument well, you know what that the zoning is you know on the South is the same and you know one and it just doesn't end and then you start taking away from the neighborhoods. And

so I do have a general problem with that we've had this discussion and and I don't care what it's going to end up for me, it's just a more philosophical like you're looking at land use in our city and

neighborhoods are extremely important and the development of the commercial quarters are extremely important. But that intrusion is that what you're touching upon and how it kind of evolves into the

neighborhoods is also very important to us. So and that is part of the criteria that we're looking at so what a week and I just want to step back and kind of touch some of this the issues that have

been discussed are ready and brought up with by some of the speakers in the criteria that we have to be looking at because we've talked a lot about whatever they're going to do. I'm interested in the

criteria, so the level of service issue that was brought up flooding. Issue right now it's not develop. Any of this been looked at in terms of the impervious area. What the difference is going to be

do we even know the effect of the development from where it's now and what it can do but be developed the impervious you wouldn't know well that allowed impervious. Increases from 0.6 5.8 5, 8, 5, o

k. So. The site was previously it's 3 was 3 platted lots for single-family homes. I believe were removed. Maybe 30 years ago the properties been ownership with Saint Vincent de Paul for about that on.

Ok and talk a little bit about the parking issue that was mentioned in terms of the effect on parking. >> Well it is within the sun runner over distance and so parking will not be required. So there's

no parking required. Okay. And so if there's no parking required then that means that some of the parking is absorbed by the neighborhood. Potentially right there. It there is something there okay in

terms of. Have have you considered I don't know if you've heard from from the neighbors before today had you all heard Start coming in last night says last night and this morning. Okay, at the cppcc

meeting there was no. >> Can you talk a little bit about the the erosion the eroding the transition issue that we're kind of discussing and I don't know if you for Derrick want to talk about that

transition we do typically look at there being some sort of right of way but for whether it be an ally or roadway and in this case there are 2 right of ways on both sides that would but Fred staff

would not support it encroaching into the neighborhood further West. But as you zoom farther out you can see that the precedent has been set for us 19 to extend this commercial zoning multiple lots

and on the East Side it's much more significant way encroach into the neighborhood in the West sides. All right so. And I think what we end up getting a lot is like when you look I think with with

councilmember Curtis mentioned when you start looking at that. Then you just look at those areas and then all a sudden they turn red up there and then you can go down and it would continue. >>

Generally not support it without there being a buffer and then very minimum an alleyway by for the roadway buffer is idea. There has to be a logical transition and right now the transition from West

to East a single-family the multifamily than commercial. Going from West to East. So is that the only I mean for you the buffering basically. Ali or a right of way so that they're not rate abiding a

single-family home. So the intensity. For the increase in density it's just 8 is how do you look at that. Well that doesn't change in this case from ask them. 2 ccs one it is the same density allowed

and it's also gives us workforce housing density Both. With the bonus can have 10 units for both zoning districts. But with the live local Act. 3 and a half times right that's the part. That's allowed

is much higher is the highest within a mile of the site. >> I mean that that's an issue that comes up in neighborhoods in my district for the same issues and we've talked about lot consolidation and

how that can how that could happen. How it changes that you know. >> Some of the areas, especially some of the historic areas. Okay well, I'll leave it at that I see others want to speak, but yeah,

I'm still thinking about it. By sure Floyd. >> I was looking through the back. Peters having a little trouble separate scroll forward slowly. It's a big document. >> And we have these criteria and

have the staff responses to that and I have some confusion about one of them, I believe it's alright. Whether the subject property is within the 100 year floodplain it says it's not but if I pull up

the map. It is and so I don't know if I'm missing that. Definition of what the 100 year flood is it's it's not in a flood zone, it's in it x it's in part of the highest part of the city it's probably

around all on the us is love about 7 blocks North and flooded during hurricane but that doesn't mean you can't have localized flooding due to congestion and it does say the 100 year floodplain though

and according to this map, it's within the 100 year floodplain the 100 year floodplain and you're required to have flood insurance. The aec sewn is not in the flood plain. 100 year floodplain so it is

a question that maybe isn't is for it is outdated it's from the 80's so now when we look at probably fema flood zone maps or try to reduce that number from 100 doesn't really only happen once every

100 years that's starting to happen once every 5 years or 10 years so that number. That nomenclature calling it the 100 year floodplain is kind of Yeah that's that's not I understand that I guess I'm

just. Confused because we came out with a storm water map that has the 100 year floodplain on and it's an interactive map on our storm water website. And its. Shows in a pink area where a one in 100

year rain storm and flood. And it's all up and down 34th Street and so I don't know if we're referring to something different when we say the 100 year floodplain Mount this is referring to fema maps

so that the city might look at a more localized developed okay. >> ok thank you all let other people go in. Digest that for a second, but I just first time I came across something like this. Thank

you. Thank you councilmember gabbard. Thank you MADAM Chair and maybe all start actually where you left off vice chair because I did want to just clarify, I mean it's certainly a sensitive to knowing

that there was flooding within that area and I hear what you're saying about the 100 year floodplain in the coastal high hazard area. But that is there are 2 different things we're talking about here

we're talking about the coastal high hazard area as it pertains to fema flood maps versus what you're looking at I believe which is the storm water flood plain and as part of site plan review there

will have to be some sort of mitigation on site for whatever kind of run off will happen is that correct. Yes they will meet code requirements right. Right so kind of trying to separate those 2 things

as it comes to the criteria and understand what will eventually have to. So that kind of alleviates that one for me even though I never want to see you know reduced impervious are increased impervious

surface thing at the opposite. I still think I mean when I'm looking at. The density and the existing and the proposed I think the change is so minimal between the 2 I mean it really is about height

which is less. >> And you know specifically to looking at the map on slide 4. And wall. In between your questions in my questions I went and looked at these 2 apartment buildings were quick on the

property appraiser. >> And one of them the one that is owned by a bully is to buildings, 20 units, 10 units each and the other one that's directly across the street that one is a 9 units, one

building. So to kind of answer the question of what is already there. But then one of our look at the proposed zoning. To me there already seems to be a pattern if you switch to slide 4. There's

already a pattern that has been created within this area. And so I don't look at this particular parcel all as encroaching anymore because I think that pattern already exists that that ship is kind of

sailed and so on just understanding that live local hangs out there and essentially I mean they could come forward with the live local proposal Lynn. What we could have gotten from this change is

minimal compared to what could happen there am I off base. >> I mean that's. And accurate reflections so while I'm sensitive to the single-family neighborhoods. I kind of feel like in this area. Again

the ship is kind of already sailed it's already happening there. And so I think it's better to be more engaged as the city into what I did. Our word versus leaving it open for this live local all kind

of boogeyman that could be out there to bring something that is much more dense. That's my concerns so I'll leave it there. But those are kind of the thought of having. Thank you. If I go

councilmember Curtis. The cpc approve the 7, 0, I think that was a little different than the one that we talked about the church which was. PRESIDENT Out by cp that was the denial by cp pc.

Councilmember Curtis. Thank you MADAM Chair I just to pick you back off camera gobert's point I think when you when you look at that map. One more slide 4 we're one less yet. Those those ccs ones and

that pattern that's being created moving North. >> Before Senate bill. >> The in the density impact the pattern impact. The environmental impacts less impact is significantly different now with. Live

with live local and that is where I'm at and so. We have we have those ccs ones him they could do that they could go and make that live local application. I'm concerned about continuing that pattern

because of what it doesn't live local that is not that's not on a corridor. That's that's where on that so I just don't think I'm gonna overcome that today. So thank you MADAM Chair. Thank you. If I

hear Floyd thank you. Okay, so yeah I did pull up the fema maps and I think my confusion was the distinction between like we're just the definition of what the 100 year floodplain isn't according to

fema maps cs it's nowhere near there. But like our storm water maps that we've created at the city does place it in there and so I don't know like. I don't know what governs like the. Bullet points

that state statute or whatnot yeah life. So generally when we're talking about these types of maps in chapter, 16 for land development it does refer to it especially in our floodplain specific

ordinance in sections in chapter, 16 to the fema maps the for maps nf issue amendments there too so those are the maps that we use okay, thank you so yeah I just got confused so wanted to clarify

that. Second thing is is. >> Leading off councilmember Gerster said. You know in a vacuum. I see. You know no problem with the land use change. But with the live local act I definitely I understand

people's concerns. >> And it's really more about a loss of control of like you know our ability to regulate and so. >> And I think this is a great spot for multi-family where it sound all ready for

that and so I understand that. But I do want to get clarity like what I'm making a consideration like is that I mean it. >> You know how. >> Is. The existence of the live local act in our ability to

regulate losing our ability to regulate the inappropriate thing for me to consider. Well I think that you know councilmember Curtis articulated that in that that changes the calculus for the density

criteria and the established pattern because again the established patterns were solely governed by our code but now if you do make that that makes that parcel eligible for everything in our code and

that is the relevant criteria that MAY be different and evolving but still appropriate for review and also criteria, 7 the proposed changes consistent with the established land-use pattern of the area

in reasonable proximity so then considering all available potential uses. And other requirements for that change. In the surrounding area, and I think the evaluation of the map using the slide was

correct by all council members either positively or negatively. That does make sense. You know if you consider historically what's been built in that area and specifically in the quarter commercial

ccs one zoning district. Yeah, that makes sense to me. >> And I just go back, I mean councilmember great is that you know that I kind of fall within your camp and how I feel I the one thing that is

moving to the other when this one is the cppcc and their review. And. It's one where. There is an established pattern. I don't like to live local issue. I don't like it. And so it's it's it's

frustrating but that's just one of the factors. I think with some of the owners have had various factors that played into it wasn't just one. And I'll go back to what happened when we made that

decision I try to be consistent on some of these issues because I'm trying to look at it more broadly when we consider something whether it sink in in district one or district for try to put myself in

the shoes of of those neighborhoods and those quarters and try to figure out ok, how it effects them put it also affects my district and the decisions that we make so I'm trying to be consistent and

and that's where I'm having a hard time with the consistency but I mean I'm just if there was more on the other one. And I I think the cpc can push me in the yes on this but I want to hear by sure

Floyd accounts that Barker does. >> 2 seconds to make myself clear like what I was been presented which I'm not considering by the applicant. Ice totally reasonable. And you know, but I'm not making

that decision making the land used to sit together. The land-use decision. Is pretty significant when you consider some and ccs in the context of live local and that's the because I don't think that.

>> And I say this because I want to be clear like I'm not opposed to anything that the applicant just saying it's just now that I have to consider. The whole realm of possibility that this could exist

there. Yeah I'd start to get uncomfortable. >> Councilmember Curtis, thank you MADAM Chair I think you make a very good point. But what I would what I would say is because we've had 2 applications

Pasadena. Community Church in Palm Lake community Church. And I even got some pushback from the neighborhood saying that I voted for one and not the other, but they worked. There are different very

different very different. Very different sitting right on 22th Avenue right across the street from that. One was. What is considered a corridor but really isn't a corridor because it's a neighborhood

road once it gets less than 66 Street. And so I so I very much appreciate what you're saying and that's where I'm trying to do the same thing stay consistent because it's an what it does that density

change is is not the same interior when you open up that category to live local and that's where I feel like I. Yeah that's that's my big concern where I've made my my points on the criteria so but I

totally get it I totally get it. So I'll leave it there, okay. Any other comments from other council members. Approval. 2 seats. We have a motion and the second clerk if you can open the machine for

voting. Council members please enter your votes. In that office and council members voted for police telling us about. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve the agenda items j 9 and j 9 b fails 4 to 4

with council members to Floyd Gabbert Curtis voting no councilmembers big Sanders Givens Hannah what's party voting. Yes. >> Thank you everyone for being here. Next up we have. Which is the appeal of

a cp c decision to deny a private initiate application requesting a text amendment to the comp plan. In town activities center boundary with concurrent amendments to future land use and zoning maps

for a 1.0 8 acre parcel generally located at the southwest corner of DR. Martin Luther King junior Street South and 6th Avenue South just north of Boca Creek. This item is quasi judicial. Anyone

wishing to speak on this item that's the law a yellow card and provide it to the city clerk and all speakers must be sworn in before presenting testimony. The rules for quasi judicial proceedings can

be found on the yellow sheet attached to the printed agenda is or if you Inc digitally pages 15 to 16 of the council agenda. Clark please swear in all parties and speakers, including city staff. Or

can you read the ordinance titles. >> Those board is number 6.51 dash age and parts of the city of St. Petersburg Florida many its comprehensive plan map for in town activity center. Providing for

severability and providing for an effective date the public hearing for this item is Feb. The 18th 2027. Julie continue. MADAM Chair. Proposed ordinance number 7.67 dash l and or some ending future

land use map of the comprehensive plan for the city of St. Petersburg Florida. I change in the future land use map designation freeze 1.0 8 acre. Allow parcel. Generally located at the southwest

corner. DR. Martin Luther King junior Street South and 6th Avenue South from planned redevelopment the issues p r dash m u and recreation slashed open space are slashed os 2 planned redevelopment

mixed use pr dash m u was in town to activity See overlay and recreation slashed open space are slashed who has providing for repeal of conflict in ordinances in provisions thereof and provided for an

effective date. The public hearing for this item is also 2/18/2027. Thank you will now move on to presentation one more one more story. Oppose or Dec. 8, 0, 2 dash z or is demanding. The official

zoning map of the city of St. Petersburg Florida. I change in the zoning of e 1.0 8 acre out parcels generally located at the South was corner. DR. Martin Luther King junior's tricks Street South in

6th Avenue South from quarter is a gentle traditional dash one crt dash one in neighborhood suburban estate and s p. 2 quarter commercial suburban dash one cc asked dash one neighborhood suburban

estate and s e providing for repeal the conflict in ordinance in provisions thereof and providing for the effective date for the signs also Feb., the 18th 2027 and we do have some cards. >> We can

move on to presentations each party will have 10 minutes for their presentation and we will begin with the city staff presentation. Again, but most a city planner presenting an appeal to the community

planning and preservation commission's decision to deny a request by a vote of 6 to one. >> Related to 3 proposed amendments to a parcel located at DR. Mlk junior Street South and this is the first

reading in first public hearing for these items where staff is recommending denial of the appeal. Application request is multi faceted first is a text amendment to the comprehensive plan proposing to

amend map for depicting the intent activity center. Second is a land use map amendment to be included in the in town activity center overlay and then a zoning amendment from corridor residential

traditional want a quarter commercial suburban one. And then a 0.2 3 acre portion of the borders book or Creek. Is within the coastal high hazard area which is proposed for amendment 2 wrecked open-

space land use and neighborhood suburban estate zoning. And the purpose of the applications ultimately is to allow for a higher intensity self storage facility. So both the text amendment in the land

use map amendment proposed to include the site but then the activity center overlay which would grant increases and density and intensity and then the proposed change in zoning to ccs one would allow

for the use of self storage if approved to the special exception use public hearing process and this would all out for a potential built out of a 6 story 115,000 square foot storage facility. It

jumped ahead. Subject lot is a vacant one acre regular training or shape, lot located at the Southwest intersection of 6th Avenue South and mlk junior Street South as within the camp, a park

neighborhood Association and mlk business district. The orange hat area depicts the coastal high hazard area. This reading uses starting at the top right or townhomes then surface parking that health

followed by Booker Creek which flows to the site and down it's a historic rose or Park neighborhood. Then to the south is a camel part neighborhood. Then the Brookwood terrorist group home and then

Campbell Park elementary school and recreation area followed by the exchange apartments to the north of the site. So initially we have a proposed text amendment to update and 10 activity center

boundary to include the subject property outlined in red and the yellow area outlined in blue is existing interactivity center boundary which is irregularly shaped due to the carve out of the

innovation district activity center created in 39. This little extension that follows Booker Creek was not included in the innovation district because it is located within the coast. I hazard and it

applies to residential uses and the historic Reza Park neighborhood. It does not benefit from any density or intensity bonuses that would be granted by being located in the overlay thereby making the

ac over they at this section Noel as it has no development value that can be applied to the underlying zoning. So staff is recommending denial in part because it does not meet the location

requirements as a parcels about 183 feet away from the nearest other person within the overlay as shown in the graphic on the right. But also staff is recommending denial because it is contrary to a

county wide real provision that does not support the use of warehouse and storage in an activity center which I will speak to a more detail later slide. And typically winning any changes are made to a

activity center. Using a special area plans created or modified and community involvement and put similar to what we went there with the sun runner activity center over line. So we typically don't do

a one-off amendment to an activity center. Here's existing future land use map for the site is mostly designated planned redevelopment mixed use up here and you with req open space designated around

the creek and the ca jj boundary is shown in hatched this is the proposed future land use map are the pure in new designation remains but the wreck open-space boundary is to conform with the ca jj

area. Then the intense activity center boundary is shown in red hatched on the East Side and McCain has been requested to extend over to the subject parcel. This is the zoning map showing the subject

site is currently zoned quarter residential traditional our crt one and a small area is zoned neighborhood suburban estate were in a speech. And this is proposed for amendment to quarter commercial

suburban or ccs one. And in a c to conform with the cj change area and together the wreckage in space band use. Together they don't represent any development potential and which is why that is applied

to the city to cheat area. I'm talking a little too fast. As noted in the staff report that the proposed amendments are not consistent with many policies of a comprehensive plan and then the next few

slides I will speak to these 4 policies. I think it's just moving its own. You 3.4 states that the lanes plan shall provide for compatible land use transition through an orderly land use arrangement.

The proposed change from traditional zoning district to a suburban zoning district is not consistent with established land use patterns and the surrounding area. And does not provide for a compatible

land use transition through an orderly Lane use arrangement as the subject property is located. 1.7 miles from another like parcel of ccs one such a change in zoning if approved would be considered

spot zoning which is contrary to the city's character framework, detailed in the vision element of a comprehensive plan. Were spots zoning generally is the practice of resenting a small parcel of land

to a district that is inconsistent with the city's master plan and typically only benefits a single property owner without advancing knowledge and the judgment Prada public purpose. Well a clu 3.6

states at land use planning decisions show weigh heavily on the established character of the developed area, the word character is key here as a compliment speaks to. As a compliment speaks to is made

very specific either traditional character or suburban character. The intent to the center also known as downtown Saint Pete or d t s p as the city's original cities that are characterized with its

distinctly traditional building form and scale that creates a notable sense of place and this map showing that the traditional zoning districts are shaded out and the suburban districts earned read

demonstrating that only traditional characters ending radiates out from downtown and the suburban zoning of any category isn't found for a couple miles out until you get to 34 Street or to the West or

south to Lake mcgorry. You 3.7 plane decision South shall determine whether existing means boundaries are logically drawn in relation to existing conditions and expected future conditions. The

existing crt zoning district is logically drawn and conforms to the district's development standards and lot mention requirements is the proposed zoning of ccs one that if approved will create a

nonconforming lot by not meeting the required lot where it which is not allowed by city code that require lot went for a medium-sized ccs one lot is 200 feet and when measuring irregular shape. Lots

the code requires measurement to be taking in the middle of a lot which in this case measures 108 feet which is a 40%. Deficit and lot with. City you 20.2 requires that cp com plan to be consistent

with the county wide rules and this rule section speaks to the purpose of activity centers which is to create mixed uses with urban design that allows encourages multi-modal transportation and it

specifically states that storage uses do not support that goal and purpose of activity centers. To date state staff has received 8 letters from neighbors and opposition. The letter was received from

the mlk business district and from the Saint bna vision stating that their opposition to the application as they believe the self storage facility is inconsistent with both districts objectives which

are to support economic vitality and promote and investment that strengthens the character of the community and a self storage facility generates limited employment are opportunity for collaboration

and innovation we also received a letter of objection from the camera Park associated Association who voted unanimously against it and 5 other letters opposing a received from the town house is

located to the Northeast on mlk and the applicant also submitted a letter of support signed by the property manager of exchange multi-family residential building to the north. An email from staff to

the applicant cent last DECEMBER the inconsistency is with the compound were identified and it was also stated that staff could support an amendment from the current 0, 2, 1, 2 quarter commercial

traditional are cct one as it would retain the traditional building for him consistent with the area. Well opening up the loud uses too. Hotels restaurants, bars and retail. The proposed use is a

storage supported Houston industry on ccs zoning and this map shows nearby locations of parcels with the zoning. And of these parcels I highlighted ones are currently vacant. And with that staff

recommends a finding of inconsistency with a comprehensive plan and deny all the requested appeal thereby denying their requests to text a moment. And tonight the land use and zoning amendments

because they're inconsistent with the review policies did you're in and other policies outlined and the staff report and that concludes my presentation nine's it you've got you've got it you've got it

in. Now you can breathe. We will have opponents presentation. Good evening, MADAM Chair and. Council members my name is Todd Pressman 202nd Avenue South number 4.51 St. Petersburg. There's an ad and

we'll know which is that the proof is in the pudding. And we're going to present to you tonight. What we believe is the proof in the pudding of this request. You see the location aspects. I'm gonna

move forward on that, but I want you notice first of all there were not a budding any residential community or any residential home other the multi-family and were separated significantly by Booker

Creek, their arsenal to family that are in support but were located on a very busy arterial roadway. A 15,005 vehicles per day. This is an extremely confine constrained difficult unique a regular

shape that is a remnant that is still vacant and has been vacant for a long time. When you look at the challenge and constrained of this site with Brooker Creek setback Street frontage is an extremely

difficult shape as you can see here than on the aerial. It's a very difficult site to develop in any logical manner particularly in the JUNE ju geometrical elements of the both points. I'm showing you

here. What we're proposing is a and style climate role self storage unit, with Street activation. This is a concept plan proposed. But proof of the pudding number one is that the planners advisory

committee from forward Pinellas and council member Driscoll and gabbard and a few others use it on for Pinellas came forward with it an important advisory committee that development trend of self

storage or shifted from large lot single story, 2 vertical orientation closer to within established neighborhoods in activity centers. This is a critical finding that codes of the city and county

throughout Pinellas County are lagging behind. They founded advisory committee found support for self storage units because it is under the national average. So stores demands have grown as more

people experience across the city living you'll hear more about that but again that's the plan is advisory Committee for Pinellas giving you a paradigm shift for these type of uses and of course,

Derek and Brittany said on that board to some as some new members doing they said the political actually use them for Pinellas proof of the pudding number 2 the exchange 132 apartments which are

virtually a buddy. This site. Strongly recommend support and they know that represents a compatible and supported we use that would provide a valuable service. It is compatible it is cohesive because

they're small apartments low trips, no noise, no parties and provides additional storage for their units, this is the exchange apartments which gives virtually a budding the chain department says

there you can see the site and yet there's other multifamily the media area that I've talked to who voiced to me no opposition there's nothing on the record as my personal conversations, but again

these are some of the ultimate multi families that would be able to take use of this site walking across the street for storage. We like to integrate. Well, Campbell Park in terms of a design a

standard which we have some nice elevations and also provide a pedestrian path through Brooker Creek which is a beautiful asset and to adopt elements of Campbell Park bridge which is right next store.

The current zoning corridors very intensive what's proposes very intensive commercial court a suburban one to improve connections and compared to build a strong neighborhoods which I presented to you

are ready in conjunction with residential multifamily units for structures. Same thing of course reflects on the future land use category which would be an intensive areas well which would be

concentrated along that corridor. Now council members are really very familiar with gerrymander districts. Well this is about as gerrymandered is a guess on the entire activity center with some type

of tale and on the it it. A new tentative new center we're not in it. But we should be in it and you can see by this mapping. It was the Scrivener or following Brooker Creek are following other

bureaucracies that ended up in a gerrymandered district that we should be in and the regarding innovation district. We should not be in the in the innovation district. Again. We are barely in it just

barely catching the border of as you can see the air because the innovation district is relying upon or looks for more intensive professional uses like the hospital and research that's not what the

shoes would be so both of the innovation district in the in totality center don't apply the district's don't apply and the uses don't apply. When you look at our market demands study and Johns here to

talk more about this it falls in line again with proof of the pudding of what the planners advisory committee and for Pinellas put forward is a policy that 90% of the self storage is full in this

area. There's barely any more room yet demand is significantly increasing. New condo units stuart seid is are reduced. So when you and those elements together you have a lot more development which is

blessed full and we love it it's great with smaller units but no demand so again proof is in the pudding that this use is important. It's critical as comprehensive a cohesive for this particular site.

Now we asked Patricia Ortiz he's a great player to look at the private planning or look at the planning policies of the city which she responded to its difficult for me to go through all these in 10

minutes. But her report she noted again the regular triangular shape undeveloped parcel ideally situated for storage. That the proposed use is consistent is found under the political at under the

planners advisory forward Pinellas that present the subject site is actually isolate his own it is a spot zone. In opposing to good comments that Britain made in regard to it being a spot zone because

there are no others it is itself a spot so of the crt the subject parcel is the only crt parcel in the innovation district activity center which again which were gerrymander barely an the zone is not

designed to accommodate the innovation district. She knows in terms of the staff report. That's a suburban care to zoning specifically neighborhood suburban single-family abuts the site to the south.

Therefore the addition, a suburban characters only other 0.8 5 acre parcel will have minimal if any impacts on the overall planning planning framework of the city pointed to now from the staff number

3 is that would create a substandard ccs one lot. But she knows that this will reduce the size of development parcel to less than one acre and a lot will be reduced to 100 feet which could be either

be accommodate are required. Require a minimal variance she knows that the proposed mix of retail stores is consistent with the best management practices again outlined by the white paper presented by

for Pinellas players advisory committee and she also notes in terms of interpreting from state statutes what the fines can take us which is touching bordering are joining along the border for the

purpose of that section properties would be contiguous if not separated by road way or other public easement but I think support begin as you've talked a lot at this hearing about residential

communities. We are. Significantly away from residential communities by Brooker Creek and the closest multifamily is in support so were not impacting or influencing or having negative impacts of the

residents of communities on the other hand. There are very low trips of any for the use of this nature. There's no noise, no parties. It's a great use that does not impact on residential districts.

Now the mlk district did submit a letter of objection. But we are proposing and want to provide a ground level retail component was specifically included inconsistent with the best mention practices

again by the political action or by the planners advisory committee so with that. MADAM Chair and council members. You have a terribly constraints site a terribly unique site the 3 main bake it hasn't

been able to be developed he's part of the coastal high hazard area on it as well. It follows specifically the line of the planners advisory Committee for port for Pinellas that is calling for a

paradigm change in how store just looked at. It follows the proof of the pudding that were showed you on the market analysis. How we have a number of elements coming together to make it very difficult

and that this would be a cop comprehensive and complimentary use for the community and the city in the area with that MADAM Chair, we're happy to answer any questions and we have a couple of the

speakers for you who are listed with you on the yellow cards. Is there registered opponent for this item. No there's not do not take public comment correct you have any cards. Yesterday. >> Want to

call 2 speakers at a time when I call your name please go to and hoping podium state your name and address for the record you have 3 minutes to address City Council. First 2 speakers are John Burkett

and Franklin House. >> Good evening John Mark at Io 900 through 9.38. Mlk South and then a few more in the district. I am also the president mlk business district. Thank you chair handle its members

of Council. Administration. I'm here on behalf of our board to respect what respectfully ask that you deny this appeal and uphold the denial of the proposed land use and zoning amendments. Our board

previously submitted a formal letter opposing this application. In responding to that letter the applicant appears to have reduced our objections to a single concern, the lack of street activation. I

want to clarify that point today Street activation was one concern. But it was never our only concern or within our most fundamental objection. Our opposition is about the long-term economic

productivity of this property. Its compatibility with surrounding neighbors and whether the proposed zoning changes advanced the city's vision for this important corridor. This is a strategically

located gateway parcel connecting downtown along the mlk business district. The innovation innovation district in South Saint Pete. And yes, it also sits on an Booker Creek, the decisions made here

will influence the character and economic vitality of this quarter for decades. The city's own professional planning staff has identified several reasons why the application should be denied. First

the proposed zoning constitute spot zoning introducing a suburban commercial designation approximately 1.7 miles from the nearest similarly zone property, second it introduces suburban development

standards into into a stab list traditional urban corridor. 3rd the proposed self storage use conflicts with its intended purpose of the intown activity center and a clickable countywide planning

policies and forth the requested zoning would create a substandard lot require additional setback variances these are fundamental land use and planning issues. They cannot be resolved simply by

buildings appearance are adding features intended to activate the street. Our business district is actively working to attract neighborhood serving businesses, restaurants, retailers, entrepreneurs

and employers that generate sustained economic activity. A 6 story self storage facility, maybe a financially viable investment by for its owner. But it offers comparatively limited employment little

ongoing commercial activity and minimal opportunity to strengthen the surrounding small business ecosystem. That represents a significant opportunity cost. I say this is both the commercial real

estate professional and someone personally invested in revitalizing this corridor we're going through a one-way to two-way pairing right now on mlk which is going to change the entire paradigm. Right

here in this property sits at that door step. We support private investment in respect property rights, but when an applicant requests changes to the city's comp plan activity center boundaries and

zoning framework. The city has both the authority and responsibility to consider the broader public interest. The question is not whether self storage can be made to look more attractive. The question

is whether the city should change its long-term planning framework to accommodate eu's that its own staff is found inconsistent with. >> In q. Thank you for that House indicated he was against. Next 2

speakers are corn or year and station straighter please go to an open podium state your name and address for the record you have 3 minutes to address a concern. >> The name is Justin Kern I'm a

resident of 10 35th Avenue South in Campbell Park neighborhood, some just a couple blocks from this property. I just became the PRESIDENT Of Campbell Park neighbors Association. My board unanimously

voted to oppose this. I stand with Rosa Park mlk business districts in the innovation district in opposition to this. Ccs is not oriented development pattern. And okay South is a former streetcar

corridor as heavy pedestrian and bicycle activity we're just a few blocks from downtown and we're within the innovation district with people walking and biking to work. This is an urban neighborhood

quarter that has been through a lot in the last half century of urban renewal projects and highway building practices. But it is coming back as a vibrant walkable commercial corridor once again I

believe the mlk South could be another Main Street just like Central Avenue one day. I believe that this project but take away from that urban walkable Street that were championing for an mlk South. I

also don't believe that there's a requirement that they could that they have to put the retelling on the ground floor they could you know make the pretty renderings that it could never be built out.

Walkability thrives when they're active blocks of retail housing and green space curling development like self storage takes away from that. This property is also adjacent to a culturally significant

environmentally sensitive Creek Booker Creek is an urban oasis full of native wildlife such as River otters I personally been down there and seeing them clean the creek up several times with

volunteers. There's even a local artist that goes down there does live paintings and a raft in the creek. It's quite magical. Storage units are also known to encourage illegal dumping which is

something that's a huge issue from a neighborhood already and I personally know people that live inside a storage units instead of improper housing. That's not something that I want to see from a

neighbors. I want to see housing I want to see mixed use and want to see retail. In a position to this item thank you. Thank you. Next week. Hello my name is station straighter and I love 6, 9, 2 10th

Avenue South and historic preserve the park, I've lived there for 25 years. And I'm asking that you please uphold the cppcc commission. The vote of 6 to one to deny all of these amendments. I love

Saint Pete. I welcome its growth. I'm a banker and I help all of the commercial growth here in St. Petersburg 25 years I've been waiting for vibrancy to finally hit the south side of St. Petersburg

and it's coming. But it's got to be thoughtful development because it's going to bring new neighbors, it's going to support local businesses and it's going to create opportunities. Our planning

decisions now are going to help ensure that growth strengthens the community around these developments. This person MAY be small. But it offers a meaningful opportunity. It's a gateway to neighborhood

shaped by decades of underinvestment in highway construction that divided historical black communities. Today, new homes investment along mlk corridor including the looking glass initiative, new

townhomes and the vision for Booker Creek. For a chance to reconnect these neighborhoods. The applicant makes a fair point. They could plan does not contribute to vibrancy. But development for the

sake of development does not contribute activation. They're 2 different things what we build should contribute to the life of this neighborhood. This proposal includes approximately 100 square feet. A

storage space. 2,341 square feet of retail space. That balance raises a reasonable question. How much will this project contribute to the active connected neighborhood envisioned our comprehensive

plan that our city has put forward. I ask you to support growth that fulfills our planning division with welcoming Street footage. Frontage meaningful economic activity and lasting neighborhood

benefits what we do now. It's going to be there 25 years from now. You spent money on our new bridge. It's gorgeous. It's a historically accurate bridge. This is up against that are one way street is

finally coming to 2 ways it's going to be active and vibrant please do the right thing. It's an awkward stretch of land. But there's a way to make this work you own it and you can do the right thing

for us we will help you make it skews me memory you can the commenter to us I'm sorry that's okay. Thank you. The final 2 speakers are mikko Seymour and Patricia Ortiz please go to an open podium

state your name and address for the have 3 minutes to address City Council. >> Chair and council members my name is Micah Seymour to for 10th Avenue South and I have the privilege of serving as the

PRESIDENT Of the circle as a park neighborhood Association. I'm here tonight on behalf of our board who also voted unanimously against this project and on behalf of our neighbors ask you to deny the

appeal want to start by honoring the work that the applicant has put into this for sure we've been able to meet with them that triangle of land at mlk and 6 has sat empty for a long time and we

believe they've tried hard to make something work there. We want to see that corner come alive to but just not in this way and so we join with our friends can Park the innovation district mlk business

district. Booker Creek runs through that lot and winds downed in to Rosa parks, pastor homes and our brick streets and our neighbors love that Creek and so why we look after it and whatever gets built

on its banks upstream we live with what comes down the water and staff has already set a building press on to that law could harm the creek and that Creek was here long before any of us and we're

basically asking you to help us look after it. For the neighbors to come. Additionally to show that they're lot touches the activation Center in their presentation to the cppcc which seem not to have

come up today. The application or the applicant pointed across mlk. To the homes in Rosa Park and even suggested that our houses could one day be re-zoned for something bigger and that's somebody

else's picture of our future that we did not draw alongside them. The families of Rosa parks have everything that they want in their neighborhood. The historic old homes and the brick streets in the

creek running past their front doors. What we hope for on that corner it's a place that brings people together Holmes with a few neighborhood shops on the ground floor and a spot along the creek were

neighbor from Campbell Park and at Rosa Park could get together and maybe even just sit for a while and get to know one another while watching some of those otters play everything around this corner

was built for people on foot from the homes and parking Campbell part to the store fronts, including our new storefronts along mlk with buildings that sit close to the sidewalk in front doors that

face the street storage building people drive up to belong somewhere else in our city. And this corner deserve something that fits the way our neighborhoods were made. So with gratitude for your

service as you look at all of this and with real hope for that quarter we're asking or I'm asking on behalf of Rosa Park for you to deny the appeal and uphold the cp peace decision thank you very

much. Thank you. Good evening for the record my name is Patricia Ortiz and I am here on behalf of the developer. I'd really like to ask that you look at this from a practical perspective. Let's think

about how quickly the city has grown and the density the last statistic that I saw were i believe 9400 welling units within the urban core. And another 8400 either approved or under construction.

That's that's incredible Dan suffocation. These urban dwelling units are small people are exchanging you know more square footage in a home for a location in the downtown area where they can enjoy

specific amenities. And one consequence of that is storage. We have many people from many different walks of life living in the urban core and they need room to store large bulky items such as winter

clothes. Toys like kayaks musical equipment. His hobby items so there's definitely and need for storage and the amount of storage currently existing is lacking. I'd like you also to think about very

limited impacts that a self storage use will have on public services. It will have a net 0 impact on hurricane evacuation. And shelter space. And it is vertical vertically integrated with ground floor

retail. Be the property has been vacant for decades, presumably because of its size shape. Coastal high hazard area designation and its lack of the in town activity center designation but this is very

interesting. And alludes to a possible scrivener's error. The innovation district was carved out of the in town activity center. Our site is designated as innovation center activity center. But it

doesn't have that in town activity center designation staff notes that the rezoning would be a spot zoning. But I conclude that the site is already spots and staff also notes that the request is

inconsistent with the city's planning framework. Well a long standing vacant lot. In the urban core is also inconsistent with the planning framework. I'll go on to say. That staff contends that

approval will result in a substandard ccs one lot. I don't think so the lot is greater than the minimum lot size of 4500 square feet and it's less than one acre in size once we take out the coastal

high hazard area. So it would only be with of 100 feet as I read the code. >> Thank you all right. The more speakers, we have one more speaker. John Whitner please go to either podium state your name

and address for the record you have 3 minutes to address City Council. My name is John widner my address is 3.60 Central Avenue. I'm speaking on behalf the development was asked to do a market study

and I think some of the findings of the market study should be pertinent to the decision of whether to consider this request. As noted before we are above 90% occupancy in the 3 downtown serving self

storage centers. We are also 30% before below the national average. Basin are current level. Also have a huge wave of development coming in in the development related brokerage. We've got site plan

approved projects for thousands of units that are already in place waiting for economics to support started construction and development. And we have a little project called the gas plant it's

supposed to be out in quite a bit of density and need for storage as well. The trend in current development is to not provide for as many storage options and either condominiums or the rental projects

that are being built. So this problem is compounding. From my perspective. This law has been sitting here making for over 10 years as a local concerned business person and broker it feels a perfect

solution. We're very difficult regular sight that has very difficult setbacks as well as the fact that it's a relatively clean use to be next to broker Creek. There of course is some. Objection and a

desire by the neighborhoods. But I believe that this is a great solution that can provide and helps them the growing deficit for storage and can help activate with the planned retail that is involved.

And the current plans for the development. I want to also say that this really feels like a case where you should look at the most well criteria rules and laws always have a reason to consider

exception. That's why we have a process we are heading towards a greater and greater deficit with our needs for self storage, it seems like a great location for it and I think that it would be an

excellent benefit that could be done in concert with the community and be a positive. Okay now we'll move. Into cross examination each party will have 5 minutes. No cross-examination correct. The

appellate like to cross examine. Would you like to cross examine. No we thank you. Thank you so much. Now we move to closing arguments rebuttal each party will have 5 minutes to provide a closing

argument or rebuttal. Staff and the closing argument for rebuttal. If the car could put my per point I would guess that my first point would just be to point out that. But the site is not necessarily

it. Staff doesn't considered a remnant site it was platted over a 100 years ago and was 5 mostly to accommodate. Creek. And that also the the location of the activity center boundary not being

contiguous so we have this parcel to the north. That's as it has a land use of activity Center and then the parcel to the south of our open space both these 2 parcels are closer to the lot. The note

pr lot that the applicant is claiming it is continuous to the staff does not feel that it needs to continue this. Requirements to bring in the activity center overlay and then also about neighborhood

suburban estates zoning being of suburban character neighborhood suburban estate in order for it to be developed or have any development potential it must have its compatible land use category of

residential low, which it does not have it has. Wrecked open space and so together with the neighborhood is state zoning with direct open space and as the acts as a protector direct open space. It

does not allow for any development whatsoever because again nse realm and use it also requires minimum of one acre to be developed so it purely functions to protect. The wreckage in space Creek. And

then just that staff does it I agree that a self storage isn't needed and necessary use and it is allowed and zoning districts of industrial and I. Commercial suburban. One worse, they're requesting

which is close by it's about 2 miles away and they're available spots because we recognize the self storage is a suburban news. It requires large truck access. Multiple people at a time say on a Sat.

Morning could be showing up with their u haul wanting to move in their items and at the small constrain lot that should be is appropriate for traditional walkable zoning is not appropriate for a lot

of trucks to be coming in and out trucks do not support a walkable traditional character. That concludes staff's comments. Okay. Thank you. Have a closing argument. >> Thank you MADAM Chair

councilmember stressful. I want to think the citizen representatives who have come here this evening. Taking their time for their communities. It's well. Those comes well heard and respected. In every

state former for your planning staff both there can Britain the immigrate to work with. We have some significant difference of opinions but they've been great to work with. I think what you have your

council members is a difficult balance because you have a very tough. Unique geometric small site that has remained undeveloped for a long time. You have to balance what clearly is a movement towards

a significant change of paradigm change. How stores should be looked at. And that's again verify not to be a dead horse, but that's verified. By findings a policy changes of the players advisory

committee through 4 palace. And that brings up the situation which is typical government of. Need to be changed and the leg, but they don't change until there's a big push. And it becomes clear that

those are issues that need to be addressed. At the same time we can meet. The concerns and the issues that are raised by the community groups. We can provide Street activation. In the park want to

pull it up we show Street activation and we show use long Brooker Creek. We could pull that out. We can provide that but at the same time provide a use that we presented to you has been. Well which is

looked at as easy target. And that really in that regard into what it is and what it can be. And if you notice we show Street activation this elevations seats and seating outside. And you can see here

and then along Brooker Creek. Brooker Creek is a great asset we want to use it we want to put it and use it as part of the project. Because we've heard a lot for the community groups to provide that

pedestrian passageway which mate line up with one of the plans that were submitted for. The stadium site which would be a crossover over the Interstate so we're we're those things and we think those

are things that need to be included we can meet those and we can provide those. But it's a balance of those elements of use that really is a low impact. When you look at trip analysis. The trip in

elsa's for storage is almost similar to a cell tower or nursing home there's just not a lot of people coming going it's a great 9 pack uses are planners presented to you so with that we appreciate

your consideration. I I've been doing these things for a long time I've been doing these kind issues for 25 plus years I said a lot of boards. In fact, one of your boards. To pay planning Council and

I understand how difficult it is to representative for communities who have concerns come before you and you have to weigh those. But I'll say in final emphasis that we can provide to things that we

want to hear that you want and they want we can do that at the same time provide address to use that he's need in the area by them and by development appreciate your attention. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay now the presidential proceeding is close and we'll move on to executive session. And during the executive session if any councilmembers stepped out if they can just put on the record that they

were listening, you know to the proceeding so we have that on the record. Before I get to councilmember comments and questions I want to just. This over the standard. Obviously this is an appeal by

acp pc decision voted 6 to one in making a finding of inconsistency with the comp plan within that Nov o standard which means that we MAY hear new evidence and the substitute our judgment for that of

the cppcc the burden is on the appellant this requires a supermajority. >> To reverse a decision so if there are 8 of us which they are that's a vote of 6. The staff recommendation is to deny I want

to go over again just what we went over last time. We're focusing here on future land use and zoning map right that's what we're looking at and the question obviously is whether or not it meets the

standards of review. And I'm looking at legal. Yes, those criteria and again the criteria leads with goals and objections of policies and guidelines of the comprehensive plan, so it's the ld our

criteria for a view of future land use map and zoning amendments and then the comprehensive plan criteria and consistency with us. Thank you. So now that lead the table councilmember gabbard. >>

Question. Specifically about. Number 2 the effect whether the proposed amendment would have firstly effect environmentally sensitive lands or properties can we talk about that specifically to the

creek and the part that I want to just clarification on which are documented as habitat for the listed species as defined by the conservation element of the comprehensive plan can you just give a

little bit more clarity to what that means and the reason I'm asking is because there's a lot of reasons here all of which I feel like you've laid out that I agree is problematic, but that one I just

really want to understand. Kind of what that means within our code because I'm very sensitive to adverse effects on the creek. So can you just kind of lay that out just a little bit more for so.

Booker Creek is very important to vote. Local ecology and the ecosystem for wildlife, it has mostly function recently more as a storm water retention Basin. And the setbacks for wetland areas are put

in place for good reason and if they need any variances to those setbacks in order to accommodate the proposed development it can be reasonably expected that nonpoint sources of pollution would enter

into the creek more so than if it remained a traditional. Sony category. Understood thank you thank you for clarifying that and I mean I certainly want to hear what everyone else has to say, but for

me I mean I first of all when. All of the surrounding neighborhoods come together and are against this. That speaks volumes to me. You know I this is just such an important part of our city and to the

point of you know, yes activation. But I also don't necessarily agree that every single inch of everything has to be developed especially when there's environmental sensitivity that to me just

continues to stand out. And even looking you know specifically at number one with the comp plan at a Cleveland area. Consistent land use pattern I mean I feel like the list kind of goes on and on for

me as to conflict with you know the findings and so I'm looking forward to hearing what everything everyone else has to say. >> But for me I just I don't think that this is an appropriate use for this

property. But at the same time I think you know we also have to remember that there's no guarantee that the retail component would even have to be built here and that's I think you know that unknown

of what eventually could happen if we make that change is just a step too far for me. But I'm I'm. Open to hearing what everyone else has to say the last thing that I'll say about the comments that

were made about the need for storage. And I've said here for 9 years never had anyone come here and beg us for more storage. I hear more uses for the neighborhood like grocery retail things like that.

I just I'm not buying the oh my GOD we have to have more storage at the sake of environmentally sensitive lands that don't comply with the comp plan in my opinion so. Thank you councilmember gerda

think about your. I have a question for legal. There's obviously let's talk about the. Regional planning Council white paper and then staff talked about. The county wide rules. Let's just set that

straight right like even though there might be a recommendation from forward Pinellas we still have to live by the county wide rules just because they say. Yeah we should be looking at this maybe

differently. Still we still have a rule. Yes forward Pinellas is the county wide planning agency and they do develop. White papers working groups on evolving topics there's some involving data centers

that were participating in right now. But again the actual regulations in place are the county wide rules. And this application if you grant the appeal. It will then be transmitted to for Pinellas for

evaluation with compliance with the county wide plan rules. Thank you. It MAY also point out one point about the white paper from that the and also visor committee put together and it was to address

the proliferation of self storage that that was popping up everywhere and that we want a little bit more planning control over where should for the most appropriate places for to go in and that

process we determined that the ccs one zoning was only an appropriate one to date. We're also got a special exception permit otherwise it's permitted industrial zoning because it is an industrial use.

Well in that context I very much appreciate it because it popped all over the West Side that was that. I back back to the point. You know I do I do think. I taught I think you made a good point on the

spot zoning the only the only thing i would say is that just because it seems spot zone right now doesn't mean I want to spots on it again. And that's that's kind of how I look at that and that. But I

thought you made I thought you made a good argument. And make some good points. But when I look at the nonconforming part part of the argument, the city the county wide rules. The ac overlay

quadruples the intensity right next to. And so that that obviously is a concern you talked about that councilmember gobert's life I want. I want double click on that but and I also again not I I

appreciate the market study but I think it has anything to do with this right like it's not even a criteria, it's not part of anything where we're examining at this point right can we just. It can it

is evidence that was brought before this commission you can find it compelling and year. And application to criteria or not compelling. >> All right well, I'm with council member Garrett, just I just

don't. Based on rules and and extending the overlay just it just doesn't jive so the building. Thank you chair. >> Thank you vice-chair Floyd. >> Do I have to step out for a second earlier I was

listening to my phone just a will not. Say too much because a lot of it's been covered. But I did want to highlight one thing that had been covered. The. >> Individual change to the. In town. Area I

we've never done that before. As far as I'm aware. Right as staff typically does not support piecemeal amendments to an activity Center and part of that is because of the rules within the county wide

rules that activity center amendments used to have to be done with a special area plan that usually takes years to develop and a lot of citizen input. And and meetings with Council before it finally

gets. It proved and we don't do one-offs yeah that was my impression You know that right there gave me pause immediately before we've gotten anything else. But then yes has already been described. If

it seems spots already I don't want to spot so that. And make a point to a head yeah, I said it seems the current zoning of crt one is a traditional zone is order residential traditional the

traditional nature does in itself is consistent with the intent activity center. The property to the north and Northeast and in I believe East used to all be consistent zoning with the subject

property. But over time those lot's changed, but this lot stayed the same at crt and staff could support a rezoning to another traditional zoning district of cctv which is would match the other

properties fronting mlk to the cell and it would broaden allowed uses right now town houses are allowed in certain personal services are allowed to me. The town houses could be a reasonable use on

this property. But staff could easily support the use of hotels. Restaurants retail that the cct one would've forward. Okay, thank you for that context, you know wasn't trying to imply that it was

spots on to its lowest careful about its Because but I do think yeah we're to change to his owning that's almost 2 miles away them definitely would be. And then yeah environmental concerns as well

This one very much is environmentally impacted. Its completely clear so those are mine concerns and also that. >> Thank thank you councilmember Givens. Thank you very much chair on I'll have to

support the cps decision to uphold them. The denial here mainly just because of the lack of consistency. It's it's not contiguous. Does not meet the requirements for neighborhood suburban estate. And

although it MAY be allowable for the the use. I do not think this is needed just because something is permit it doesn't necessarily mean that it's appropriate and I I don't think we have a shortage of

so storage container units here I think there's more than enough. However, we do not have enough housing. We do not have enough retail. We do not have enough lodging and I think hospitality is

something that should be considered for the spot. I certainly think preserving the green space that we have will be my primary desire and I think many of the people in that neighborhood in that

district will probably agree. We have very very very little underdeveloped public green space across the city and the little bit that we do have I think it's worth preserving. So like I said based on

the criteria. I'll have to uphold the cpp suspicion. Thank you chair. Thank you council member driskell thank you. I agree with what's already been said. Here on the dias and I appreciate and the the

work is staff put into this to come to these findings, it is. Really encouraging to see. Consistency not with a plan. But with what's to that Staff came to the conclusion that the cpp seeking to the

conclusion that the mlk business district and the innovate the St. Petersburg innovation district and the neighbors and the neighborhoods that are right next to this. Everyone. Consistently the leaves

that this is not the right way forward for this property. Now if I had it my way I agree with councilmember Givens. It would be great to just have it as green space and if it was public land. Then we

would certainly be protecting it. And you know that of course is not every decision we do not own that land. But given the environmental sensitivity. The fact that we've got to turn things around with

Booker Creek not make it worse. We have to find ways to improve the creek. This isn't one of them. As was mentioned there are other uses for this property if someone wants to develop something there

are choices their options. This one should not be one of them. So I will. Not be supporting the appeal. And I just really appreciate the the strength with which you came forward for the neighborhoods

in the guts to to business districts and really student solidarity for this piece of property in an area that it is. Finally on its way to revitalization. 2 really reflecting the love that the

neighborhoods have for it. And I look forward to seeing what does happen next with this property. I just don't want this to be it. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Harvey. Thank you chair. Thank

you for your works the presented a very compelling argument >> and I very stuffy and help. But I think that that we've heard today and points in a direction. It in there are enough opponents that

showed up. The this one's not going to move forward. I do want to take a second before I talk further to recognize your clients and the property owners we'd even as we demonize them a little bit.

These guys are these folks sent to these folks are willing to spend money in our community willing to put capital into an area that capital I want to make sure we recognize that for what it is this

isn't the idea that that's going to move it's going to have that piece of property forward but I appreciate their entrepreneurial spirit unwilling willingness to invest in our community that shouldn't

be overlooked. That This we've heard from from the city of heard from the business community. We've heard from the neighbors we've heard from the neighborhood associations and it all pointed in the

same direction. We've also heard from legal and I think that that that allowing this and changing this designation is a bit of a stretch so well I I appreciate the effort. I I I will the voting with

the sec peas it comes to seeing there. Decision and thank you very much. Thank you chair. Thank you councilmember Sanders. Thank you Ed definitely wanted to voice that are already come to my decision,

but I did want to voice thank you to MR. PRESIDENT and the developers that came today. Models really already on the site with the neighborhood Association when it comes down to this but he's

particular piece of parcel one book a Creek. And I have to be fully transparent when I heard it was a storage unit has laid low and that another storage unit. Although I know that they are so needed

for that particular area I just didn't think that that was the best spot for it. But I definitely have to say thank you to everybody that was here that time and the effort and the dollars that was

placed into it. But unfortunately, I'm going to have to vote no on the appeal for this. But don't don't stop and again thank you to the neighborhood associations as well. And I look forward to mlk be

revitalized as well. Thank you. Thank you. And before I go to councilmember Givens again all. Share my findings first of all want to thank everyone for spending part of the time with us at 7 30 at

night. You know we this is important and so I'm gonna go through some of that criteria. I do want to thank both sides. You know you both presented very well and my decision is always based on the

facts and the evidence that's presented before me so with that being said you know in terms of the standards of review in terms of the. >> Propose use with the goals in objectives and policies of the

comp plan. I want to refer to and then there were various provisions that were included by staff to one of the ones that has come out in different ways that also I had Fermi highlighted was ella you

3.6 which is inconsistent with cities overall planning framework by adding a suburban character zoning district within a traditional City Center area which is what has been discussed in various ways

we kind of went into kind of the spots owning thing and that goes back to the criteria, 7 which is whether the proposed changes consistent with the established land-use pattern of the areas in

reasonable proximity and if proposed changes a significant distance from any other suburban character zoning college not only calling whatever at the end of the day. And are number 7. It's it's not a

reasonable proximity. The other thing in terms of whether the proposed amendment would have that adversely affect environmentally sensitive lands. Again this has been touched upon. It has been shown

day could reasonably be expected to eversley effect Booker Creek. This goes back to kind of it's not an adequate or appropriate lot with for the proposed change for the crt 1, 2, ccs with the overlay.

It would require approval variances by the drc prior to site plan approvals and this is this is under 5 appropriate and adequate line you sufficient for use and reasonably anticipated operations and

expansions so this is more appropriate for large suburban butts. Ok did around city edges. Acc one s ccs one parcel greater than one acre is required to have minimum lot with of 200 feet to be

conforming and legal basis of subject parcel does that mean self that was all in information that was provided to us and it has been said in different ways by City Council members I just want to make

the record clear in terms of the different standards of review and the different parts of our comp plan that were that I used to consider my to consider this councilmember Givens and that would mean

that I'm also upholding cp pcs decision to deny. Thank you chair, I stepped out for moments I just want to go on the record to let you know that I did that so thank you I appreciate that thank you.

So. I think we've all had our say now on legal King you since we're go through with how this should be framed and what a yes and the no means that's always really helpful before this okay and. As we

discussed previously we as we are going into next year we've had a change in state law regarding applications related to land use and the requirements of boards and commissions like the City Council

to make written findings. So at this time I'm going to transmit what I believe is the written findings for review of this commission and then weaken add or delete any of that and those will be

included with whatever the result in the decision is that will be provided to the applicant after vote. Hope the Internet is still with me and do that right. >> Well thanks thanks for the lead up. And

we we did it. >> We all we all have to remember. The attorneys have to somehow draft whatever we say here into written findings. So it's it's it's good to kind of get that practice. >> The summit in

just eriz everything. Yeah can we have to just 5 minutes for a technical. And we re so. And yes we can actually yes we can absolutely recess for 5 minutes. City councils and basis. >> a rule. >>

Meeting at a yes or no okay. Yes, and the we MAY be back online but in my written findings for you guys is not so we will they were really good though everybody did a very nice job. And we will

practice again on Nov. 5th and it will work then but. So now we just go to vote the motion is a motion and to grant the appeal. Granting the appeal is a yes to the project. Yes vote grants the appeal

approves the project overturn cppcc and the result of that is that this all these ordinances will then be transferred to the county and then they will come back on Feb. 18th I believe clerk. So if it

is a no we will not transmitted to the county and you will not see on Feb. 18th. And you uphold the cpc. >> In the affirmative. So is there councilmember Curtis. I just want to make a clarification

because if we were to grant the appeal. That's when there's a second hearing. Yes. Because granting the appeal overturned cpp stun I'll so then it just moves on and the process. >> But I just wanted

to clarify that real quickly okay, thank Have a motion and second clerk if you can open machine for voting just to clarify this for all 3 are just going to be all 3. Yes because it's a move. Move

approval is granting the appeal and the appeal includes the 3 ordinances to complete the application. >> And much as second clerk of the mission for voting council members please enter your votes

seeing that are present in some members have voted clerk please Kelly announce the vote. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve agenda items j 10 agent, Jay 10 b and j 10 c l u. >> Thank you and thank you

everyone for being here today this was I do to shul proceeding is closed completely with their votes. Yes, this concludes of this constitutes final agency action on this application on behalf of the

city. Thank you very much. And MAY find my agenda. Thank you all for being here. Next up we have open forum. I'm sure we do not have any speakers. You have no speakers we close open form and we go to

announcements. Councilmember Givens. Thank you Just a little. Update on events that are happening this weekend in the community. I care dental outreach will be doing a free dental clinic for those

folks who are uninsured and looking for access to dental services on that will be on 23th and mlk this weekend from 09:00pm to 01:00pm and then we will also have our St. Petersburg fire rescue 100

House and so if you're like me and you love a good scare. I look forward to seeing you out at fire station number 10 at 2800 30th ave North. Thank you chair. Thank you councilmember Curtis it very

much, MADAM Chair, I'll just repeat what I said earlier just thanks for a great day, everybody. >> Also tomorrow is boss's day. And so although technically we don't have one eye. I feel like Jamie,

sure. >> So just want to say a big thank you to Jane in everything she does she does she goes above and beyond she is going above and beyond currently right this very second partly because of me and

so I just want to thank her for everything she does for our entire administration. She's awesome she's a rock star and we're very very lucky to have her. We also have a couple of birthdays in the

coming week, it's church and after his birthday next week. And so I'm going to struggle very mightily singing happy birthday to this evening, but if you'll join me in seeing Trish and definitely happy

birthday I to you. Happy birthday to you happy birthday and uber asked me. And happy birthday to you and I just got a text message that it was Heather's birthday yesterday. >> a day to you. Happy

birthday to you happy birthday dear head there. Happy birthday to you. Well you see we kept you here with us still 7.45. If your little brother. You got to see her in action. Well thank you for your

words. >> Well everyone we don't have a committee all next week and we don't have a council meeting the week after so we will see see the brake. So basically yes, I'm at we're gonna have to wish

everyone a happy Halloween and Halloween everyone, yeah, and so we come back Nov. 5th which is our next meeting. All that see everyone then thank you thank you,