2026-10-26 - City Council Workshop Meeting

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12:05>> Good morning and welcome to the workshop

12:08for the Orlando City Council for October

12:1126, 2026.

12:14And I'll start with

12:15Go Knights.

12:17Charge on is the

12:20>> [applause]

12:20>> How about that? Good football weekend.

12:22Gators were idle.

12:24Um okay, commissioners, today we're

12:27going to have a um

12:29report or an update from GOAA and our

12:32international airport is the seventh

12:34busiest airport in the country and the

12:36second busiest um origin and destination

12:40airport in the country with more than 57

12:42million visitors or passengers last

12:45year.

12:46And they are critical to how we welcome

12:48our visitors from around the world. So,

12:51um

12:52Lance Little, our CEO, is here to give

12:54us an update. And I don't know, have you

12:56been before council yet? Or is this

12:58first time?

12:59>> time.

12:59>> First time. Well, welcome then.

13:02Come on up.

13:02>> Okay.

13:04Okay.

13:07Uh good morning, Mr. Mayor. Good

13:08morning, commissioners. Thank you for

13:10having me. Um here as the mayor says,

13:12I'm Lance Little, CEO. I've been on the

13:13job I think exactly 18 months

13:16um this week. So, really happy to be

13:19here.

13:20Uh so, uh thanks again for the

13:21invitation to present and give an update

13:23on what's happening at MCO and OIA, the

13:26two airports uh that we manage.

13:29Just to give an overview of the

13:31presentation I'm going to make. I'm

13:33going to give an overview of both

13:34airports. Then I'm going to speak about

13:36the issues and challenges uh that we

13:39have. How we address those issues and

13:41challenges, we have a two-pronged

13:43approach. One is what we consider to be

13:45our tactical solutions. This is based on

13:47the things that we're going to be doing

13:49between year zero and year five. And

13:51then we have a strategic focus as well.

13:53And these are the things that we're

13:54going to be doing over the next five,

13:5610, 20 years as well. So, you'll see

13:59during the presentation that two-pronged

14:01approach to the issues and challenges

14:02that we have.

14:04So, a quick overview of um the airports.

14:06I'm going to talk about the governance

14:08structure real quick, who we are, state

14:10of the airport, and um an update on our

14:12financials.

14:15So, some of you might be aware we have a

14:17seven-member board consisting of course

14:19the mayor

14:21and also the mayor of Orange County.

14:23Jerry Demings, we also have five members

14:26board members that are appointed by the

14:27governor of um Florida. This one is

14:31probably a few days outdated. Carson

14:33Good that you're seeing on the um the

14:36screen right now, he resigned uh last

14:38week. So, last Wednesday was his last uh

14:41board meeting. So, a slight change in

14:43the governance structure here.

14:46So, who we are? We are the fourth

14:48largest um airport by land mass

14:51um next to Denver, um Dallas, and Dulles

14:55Airport. [clears throat]

14:56So, uh we have a lot of land space here.

14:59We have a 23,000 parking space at the

15:01airport and as you'll see during the

15:02presentation, 23,000 parking space is

15:05not enough.

15:06Um and uh of course as the mayor

15:09mentioned, we had a over 50 um 7 million

15:11passengers coming through the airport.

15:13This is at MCO. At ORL,

15:16uh we have two fixed-base operators

15:19Atlantic and Sheltair that operates at

15:22that um airport and is one of the busier

15:25what we call general aviation airports

15:27in the airport system.

15:30So, the state of the airport over MCO

15:33over 57.7 million um passengers. We have

15:36over 170

15:38uh non-stop destinations. Maybe about 55

15:40to 60 of those are international

15:42destinations. We have over 39 uh

15:45scheduled airlines. We're the um third

15:48busiest domestic O&D um

15:51origin and destination airport in the

15:54USA. Third to um LA and um JFK.

15:59And also, we are the world's largest

16:01rental car market. We have over 8,000 uh

16:04rental car transactions per day at the

16:07um airport. And one of the things that

16:09makes the O&D airport very challenging

16:11is that people arrive here and they

16:14depart from here. So, at

16:15Hartsfield-Jackson as an example, which

16:17is the busiest airport in the world,

16:19they have over 110 million passengers,

16:21but approximately 60% of those

16:23passengers are connecting. So, they

16:25don't have the parking challenges, for

16:27example, that we have.

16:28And that's why O&D is important. And I

16:31think I was speaking to one of the

16:32commissioners just earlier about the

16:34economic impact of

16:36MCO, 41.4

16:38billion dollars annually in economic

16:40impact. This is through direct,

16:41indirect, and induced activities that

16:43takes place at the airport. At OARL, we

16:46have over 292 based aircraft there. Over

16:49500

16:51aircraft take off and land in each day.

16:54And OARL was actually the first

16:57commercial service airport in Central

16:59Florida, started back in 1928 as the

17:03Orlando Municipal Airport.

17:07So, financial overview, we're doing

17:08really well. Our operating budget at MCO

17:10is just a little bit under a billion

17:13dollars. Our operating expense, 630

17:16million dollars. And the board just

17:18approved an increase in our CIP over the

17:20next 5 years, it's going to be 6.9

17:22billion dollars. So, lots of activities,

17:24lots of projects that's going to take

17:26place between now and the next 5 years.

17:28At OARL,

17:30slightly smaller budget, 10 million

17:32dollars in operating our operating

17:36budget, and our operating expense is

17:37about 4.63

17:39million dollars, rather. The CIP, 94.6

17:43million dollars. That was also increased

17:45and approved by the board by the board

17:4710 million dollars.

17:50So, issues and challenges. So, when I

17:52started at the airport, one of the

17:53things I did, I met with pretty much

17:55every stakeholder that I could find.

17:56People were involved in the development

17:58of the airport from the beginning,

18:00people were here back in the '60s, the

18:02'70s. I spoke to every stakeholder that

18:04I could touch base with,

18:07elected officials, passengers, etc. And

18:09also just observations. And based on

18:11that, these were the top challenges that

18:13we came up with that we really need to

18:15address. So, parking, baggage handling

18:17system, the number of gates that we

18:19have, the walking distance, particularly

18:21on C. We get a lot of compliments on C.

18:23It's a beautiful facility, but the

18:25walking distance is a challenge. And of

18:27course, just the upgrading of the

18:28facilities, and these facilities are

18:30terminal A and B, not C. And also,

18:33facility maintenance in general. So,

18:34these are the six broad areas that we

18:37are prioritizing right now that we're

18:38addressing.

18:40So, parking, as I said, we have 23,000

18:42parking spaces, but as you may

18:45experience, sometimes you come to the

18:46airport, it's not even a holiday or

18:48anything special, but you can't find

18:49parking. And one of the challenges that

18:51we have again is because we have the

18:53biggest rental car

18:54market in the world, and we have

18:55approximately 5,000 of those spaces that

18:58are being used by rental cars, as well.

19:01So, that presents a major challenge for

19:03us.

19:04Uh baggage handling system, we have an

19:06outdated baggage handling system,

19:08especially on AB.

19:10Uh it's what we call a pod system. It's

19:13like five disparate system, and during

19:15peak hours, it's really at capacity. So,

19:18that needs to be upgraded, as well. So,

19:19we've had challenges um with the airline

19:21sometimes during peak hours with people

19:23getting their bags on time, etc. So,

19:25that's another major challenge that we

19:27have. The number of gates,

19:30uh during peak, we do not have number of

19:31gates. Airports operate

19:33um like peaks and valleys. So, you'll

19:35come to the airport

19:36at some point in time, and there's

19:37pretty much nobody in the airport. 2 or

19:393 hours later, you can't find space to

19:41move around. And that's what happens

19:42with gates. We do not have enough gates

19:44during the peak hours. If you look at

19:46the diagram um right here,

19:48if I could move this to it, you'll see

19:50this space right here. This is airside

19:523,

19:53and this is what we call a wing. This is

19:55the only airside that only has two

19:57wings.

19:58All the other airsides have three wings,

19:59and you'll see this what the importance

20:01of this space right here when we get to

20:03other solutions part of the um

20:05presentation.

20:08Compliments on C, we get a lot. C is

20:11beautiful, it's nice, it's spacious.

20:13However, walking distance.

20:16And I think when uh the design was done

20:18for this facility, we were compared with

20:20other airports. However, the

20:22demographics at at those airports are

20:24pretty much different. Some of those

20:26airports the demographic is a business

20:27traveler with a roller bag and they're

20:29zipping through the airport. Our

20:31demographic is very different. It's mom,

20:33dad, three kids, grandma, they have two

20:37bags, they're going to the theme parks,

20:39etc. Walking distance is extremely

20:41important to them. And so we get a lot

20:43of compliments in terminal C, but we

20:45also get a lot of complaints about the

20:46walking distance. That That's a major

20:48challenge for us as well.

20:51And that's the general condition of the

20:52facilities. It's like a tale of two

20:54airports. You'll speak to someone who

20:56traveled on JetBlue through terminal C

20:59and it was Oh, it was so beautiful. It

21:01was nice. And you speak to someone else

21:03who traveled the very same day, but they

21:04traveled through terminal A B and

21:06they'll be like, "Your facility is kind

21:08of dated." Same day, same airport, two

21:12totally different experience. So the

21:13conditions of A and B and the air sides

21:17are a major challenge for us as well.

21:20And just maintaining the facilities. If

21:22you ask um, you know, airport directors

21:24what some of the biggest challenge that

21:25that they have, they'll tell you it's

21:26just maintaining the airports, keeping

21:28it clean, clean, keeping restrooms

21:30clean, etc. Just some of the basic

21:32things. We had leaks.

21:34I mean at the airport, we're the seventh

21:36busiest airport in the most powerful

21:37nation on earth. We shouldn't have

21:39leaks.

21:40And so those are some of the challenges

21:42that we have. The conditions of our

21:43restroom, the number of stalls that we

21:44have um, in the restrooms in the A B

21:47facility. So we have identified that the

21:49landscape and if you look at the

21:51original

21:52vision for the airport back in decades

21:55ago and you look at the landscape and

21:57etc. now, it's nothing

22:00near where our forefathers had

22:01envisioned what this airport would look

22:03and feel like.

22:05And so that's MCO or L. Other

22:07challenges, Colonial Promenade. Many of

22:10you might be familiar with Colonial

22:11Promenade. I'll speak a little bit about

22:13that. The lack of hangars, corporate

22:15hangars, what we call box hangars, FBO

22:17hangars, we just do not have enough

22:20to accommodate the demand right now. And

22:22what we call tied on space, it's open

22:24space, you tied on an aircraft to leave

22:25it um overnight. We don't have enough

22:28tie down space. And the airfield

22:29condition, the runways, taxiways, etc.

22:34Just want to speak a little bit about

22:35Colonial Promenade cuz it's extremely

22:37important to us.

22:39Um

22:40it's been in the condition, my

22:41understanding, that it's in right now

22:43for a very long time. And so it's become

22:45a very high priority for us to get that

22:47asset um

22:51with commercial um activities included

22:54in it. Um unfortunately, I can't say

22:56much today about what we're going to do

22:58at Colonial Promenade because we're

22:59doing a presentation to our commercial

23:02um properties committee 2 days from now

23:05on Wednesday. That's going to be a

23:06public meeting. So you'll hear all the

23:09um information associated with Colonial

23:11Promenade in 2 days. So I don't want to

23:13preempt that by saying too much. But

23:14suffice to say this is a very high

23:16priority um for us at the airport.

23:20So, tactical solutions. Again, the

23:22two-pronged approach, what are we going

23:24to be doing to address these issues in

23:26the first um 0 to 5 years, and then what

23:28are we going to do long term?

23:31And those are the areas that I'd

23:32mentioned earlier. So parking. We

23:35currently have our parking guidance

23:37system installed in terminal C. So the

23:40parking guidance system allows you to it

23:43will show you the number of parking

23:45spaces that are available um on each

23:47floor. When you get to each floor, it

23:48will show you the parking spaces that

23:50are available in each row with lights,

23:52etc., etc. So we have that implemented

23:54right now in terminal C. Uh we're also

23:56doing the implementation in AB at

23:58terminal top. That should be ready, I

24:00think, January or February of next year

24:02we'll have that completed. So that's one

24:03thing that we're doing. Reserve parking

24:05enhancement. We have reserve parking at

24:07terminal C right now. You can reserve

24:08your parking space. You don't have to

24:09worry about coming early to the airport

24:11because of parking. And we're doing the

24:13same thing over at the AB. That also

24:15should be completed in January of next

24:17year as well. So that's what we're doing

24:19to address the parking. And then longer

24:21term, by 2030, we're going to be adding

24:23uh four, sorry, 8,000 parking spaces.

24:26The board approved that already. We're

24:28going to be building approximately 4,000

24:30spaces on A and 4,000 parking spaces

24:32over at C. So, that's what we're doing

24:35to address the parking issue in the

24:36short term.

24:38Baggage handling system, as I said, we

24:40have six five or five disparate um

24:43systems that are um they operate

24:46independently, but they are at capacity

24:48during peak hours. So, we're going

24:50through a design competition right now.

24:52We're going to get the brightest best in

24:53the brightest in the world to actually

24:54present um solutions based on criteria

24:57that we have established. And this is

24:59going to result in a single integrated

25:01baggage handling system. We'll be able

25:02to check your bags in at any ticket

25:05counter, and that bag will go to any

25:06aircraft anywhere um around the airport.

25:08So, we'll do a design competition. Uh

25:10we'll probably select about three um

25:13firms to do that, and they will actually

25:16own the the design once they're

25:18finished, and we can choose either one

25:20or any one of the design or a

25:21combination uh thereof. So, that's how

25:23we're going to handle the baggage

25:24handling system on A.

25:27AB, rather.

25:28Uh gates, as I said, we have a lack of

25:30gates. We recently, just a few months

25:32ago, we opened

25:34um eight narrow-body equivalent gates,

25:36or what we call four wide-body gates,

25:37meaning we can have four big planes, or

25:40we can have eight small planes operate

25:41there. That's open. That's up and

25:43running over in terminal C. That's one

25:45of the immediate things we're doing to

25:46address the number of gate issues.

25:49And um as I had mentioned earlier, the

25:52drawing just to show you again, board

25:54just gave us approval. We're going to

25:56actually build This is on airside two,

25:59in this space right here.

26:01You can see we're going to add

26:02additional gates. It's going to be

26:04looking something like this, about seven

26:06to nine gates um over here. We'll have

26:09um new lounges, new hold room space, new

26:12concessions, new restroom, mother's

26:14nursing suites, etc. All of that will be

26:16included in this facility.

26:20And this I wanted to show this diagram.

26:22This is to give you a glimpse of

26:25what the future is going to look like at

26:26MCO. So, this is

26:29Initially, we had called this terminal C

26:31and D. If you know, what is the name

26:33nomenclature has changed here to 213.

26:36And what we're planning to do is to

26:37rename or re-look at naming the

26:39terminals differently. For example, if

26:41you're in the AB terminal, it was very

26:43confusing. Passengers will come to us

26:45and say, "Hey, um I need to get a flight

26:48on A. And where is A?" And we're like,

26:51"Well, if you step over that line,

26:52you're at A."

26:54"Well, where is B?" If you step back

26:55over, you're in B. It's really one

26:56terminal,

26:57right? So, we want to rename it to

26:59terminal one.

27:01And then you'll have a east side or west

27:02side or north side or south side. And

27:03then terminal C, as we know it now, will

27:06be terminal two. And then that new

27:08terminal will be terminal three. So,

27:10that's the direction that we're going.

27:12The importance though of this

27:14um diagram is if you look at it, we'll

27:16be able to build over 100 new gates.

27:19Over 100 new gates, more than 100 new

27:21gates on almost greenfield. What that

27:23What does that mean?

27:25The growth for aviation in Florida is

27:28going to take place right here. There's

27:29no other airport in Florida that has

27:32this capacity. In fact, there's very few

27:33airports in the USA that would have this

27:36ability

27:37to grow this way. So, you know, thanks

27:40to the people who came along before me

27:41who had the foresight to acquire all

27:43this land because they had a vision and

27:45they saw what would be required down the

27:47road. So, this is very important. The

27:49growth is going to take place right

27:50here.

27:52Uh so, just to give an update real

27:54quick, south terminal complex, this is

27:56the vision. This is what it's going to

27:57look like. And this is where we are so

27:59far. Oops.

28:02Okay.

28:04Oh.

28:05Sorry. So, we currently we have the

28:07automated people mover system that's in

28:10place already, Terminal Connect. We have

28:12Brightline that's operating already at

28:14the airport. We have the pedestrian

28:16bridge that we put in. We got a lot of

28:18compliments on that. So, people don't

28:20have to walk through the parking garage

28:22exposed to the elements. We used to get

28:23a lot of complaints about that. So, we

28:25have the bridge completed. We have the

28:27four wide wide body eight narrow body

28:29equivalent gate that I mentioned

28:31earlier. And then we're almost done with

28:35the um the future rental car lobby.

28:37We're doing TCO right now with the

28:39cities as soon as we get our temporary

28:41certificate of occupancy,

28:43um we'll be opening that facility.

28:46Uh they we're going to be adding

28:48additional moving sidewalks to the

28:50pedestrian bridge. The ones that we have

28:51there right now, they're short. We're

28:52going to be extending them, and then

28:54we're going to add in more to address

28:56the um walking distance issue over in C.

28:59Vertipad, um we're

29:02just a few weeks away from opening our

29:04Vertipad. Uh we're we're expecting uh to

29:08have a test flight November 2nd,

29:11November 2nd, so very, very shortly.

29:13This is under construction

29:15um right now, so we're very, very

29:17excited about that. We're working very

29:18closely with Fdot. They're leading the

29:20charge, and we're partnering with them

29:22on this effort.

29:24And future, as I mentioned earlier,

29:274,000 parking spaces in the future

29:29parking garage in Terminal C.

29:33Other future development, we have the

29:35space for SunRail. We've been working

29:37very closely uh with the various

29:38different um stakeholders, and we have

29:41the facility to accommodate it whenever

29:44um that comes into being. So, SunRail is

29:45going to be a part of the future

29:46development as well.

29:49Okay. Um

29:51I didn't miss anything there.

29:53Oh, and oh, Terminal C, you'll see

29:55future um moving walkways. One of the

30:00challenges again that we faced in

30:02Terminal C was moving sidewalks was

30:05removed um during COVID because of

30:08budgetary reason.

30:09And um another issue that we had was the

30:12size of the building was strong. So,

30:14it's very challenging for us to put

30:17moving sidewalks in there, so we're

30:19looking at various different ways uh to

30:21have conveyance again to to move people

30:23back and forth in Terminal C. So, that's

30:26what the South Terminal Complex is going

30:27to look like.

30:29And of course, if you have used the

30:31Brightline, I use it whenever I go to

30:33Miami or to Fort Lauderdale. It's a very

30:35convenient style We're the only airport

30:37in the USA that has a high-speed rail

30:39that goes into it.

30:41This is the construction of the vertipad

30:43that I just mentioned. That's going to

30:44be open in

30:46this week. And we're we're looking

30:49forward to that test

30:52flight in November 2nd as well.

30:56And that's what it's going to look like

30:57when it's finished.

30:58So, many airports may

31:02Is my time up?

31:04>> [laughter]

31:05>> So,

31:07many many airports may talk about

31:09multimodal facility, but we're one of

31:11the very few that have a true multimodal

31:14facility. You'll see the trains, the

31:16buses, air, and now AAMs

31:19that we're going to have in our

31:20facility. It's a true multimodal

31:22facility that we have. Again, kudos to

31:24the people who came long before me who

31:26planned this and have all of that space

31:28allocated so we can accommodate this.

31:32And then moving, as I said, walking

31:33distance we reopened Was it last year?

31:36We opened the new moving sidewalks once

31:38you got to through the TSA checkpoints

31:40to get to the Palm Court. And people

31:42love this one especially because it's

31:44taking you uphill and it's a really long

31:46walk, especially if you have bags, etc.

31:48So, that's in place right now.

31:51And we're going to be

31:54transforming A, B, and the

31:58the four air sides. As I said, the tale

32:00of two airports. You speak to someone

32:01that's on Terminal C, they're like,

32:03"Wow, it's really nice." And then

32:05they're at A and B and they're saying

32:06it's it's somewhat dated. Well, A and B

32:09is going to look like C. Not as big, but

32:12we're going to be doing new interior

32:14finishes, seating, wayfinding, the new

32:16rental car facility, the lighting

32:17improvements, etc. So, we have a really

32:20great plan for that. I'm not sure which

32:21side of the carpet you guys are on.

32:24There are people who love the carpet.

32:25There are people who don't love the

32:27carpet. A lot of the carpet that's in

32:29the walkway that you're moving is going

32:31to be gone. We need to have a hard

32:32surface so people can walk and bags can

32:34move and we'll have the large terrazzo

32:36tiles that you won't hear any noise,

32:38etc. But, carpets will still be in the

32:41areas where, you know, people dwell,

32:42people sit, etc. But, the walkways, it's

32:46painful when you're trying to move bags,

32:47especially if you're going on a slope,

32:49as I said. There's some people that has

32:51a cult following for the carpets, so it

32:52will still be there, but just in the

32:54appropriate um space. And then, to to

32:58bring it all home is our concessions,

33:00right? We're adding brand new

33:01concessions. We're going to have a

33:02really nice mix of local, um regional,

33:05national, and international brands. And

33:08um we have open We're in phase two right

33:10now, which includes 40 concessions. We

33:12have opened eight of them already, and

33:14we'll be opening the next ones over the

33:15next um few months and few years. So,

33:18really, it's going to be

33:19transformational when you see um the AB

33:22as well as the airside.

33:25And part of that transformation, we just

33:28um installed one of our new um gate

33:31links. As you can see, it's on the

33:32screen. On the left is the old one. On

33:34the right, you will see the old and the

33:35new, and we're replacing all the old

33:37ones um over the next 2 years as well.

33:40So, that's the first one that we have in

33:41place over on airside four.

33:45Uh as I said, keeping room um restrooms

33:48cleaned and maintaining the facilities

33:49can be a major, major challenge um for

33:52us. So, we're not only looking at um

33:56you know, manpower and how we do it,

33:57we're also looking at technology and

33:59innovation. We actually have a Android

34:02right now that we're testing. It doesn't

34:03look exactly like this one. It's

34:04actually more humanoid. And we're

34:06testing that right now in the facility

34:08to um in our in our restroom facilities

34:11to make sure we can do deep cleaning,

34:13for example, at nights, etc. You'll If

34:15you come through the airport in the

34:16night, you'll actually see robots going

34:18around cleaning um the airport, so this

34:20would be an enhancement um to that. And

34:23we're also, of course, have to put in

34:24additional restrooms as well.

34:27Colonial Promenade, as I said, I can't

34:28say a lot more about it, but suffice to

34:32say that the expectation is that it will

34:35be transformational, and it won't look

34:37anything like it's looking right now or

34:39it has looked over the

34:41um

34:4210 years from my understanding.

34:44So,

34:45Sky Harbor. Sky Harbor is our new FBO.

34:48They're under construction right now.

34:50The great thing about this, we have not

34:51had a new FBO in over 30 years at the

34:54airport. So, this is a big deal for us

34:56and a big deal for OARL.

34:58So, it's under construction. This is a

34:59rendering of what it's going to look

35:01like. We broke ground back in May of

35:032026.

35:04Um it's a $30 million investment and

35:07it's we have 5,000 square feet terminal

35:09space. It's just again going to

35:11transform the look and feel of OARL.

35:15And Sheltair also, they're making

35:16investment in hangars. You're looking at

35:19is the current hangar. We should have

35:20that opened very shortly, November, next

35:24month. So, two brand new hangars, $12

35:26million investment again taking place at

35:28OARL.

35:31And tiedown area, that has been a

35:34demand for us. We don't have enough

35:36tiedown space. This is a space where you

35:38basically tie your aircraft down and

35:40leave it overnight. You rent the space.

35:42And so, Judith Ann, who runs the

35:44airport, and her team came up with this

35:46brilliant idea. The board approved it a

35:48few months ago and that would add 20

35:51additional tiedown space. So, that's

35:53what we're doing to address that issue.

35:55So, at OARL, you'll see Colonial

35:57Promenade. Again, if you can make it to

35:59the

36:00meeting on Wednesday, you'll hear how

36:02we're going to reimagine

36:03Colonial Promenade. We have new

36:05corporate hangars, new FBO hangars,

36:08tiedown area, box hangars that we're

36:10putting in as well. We're improving the

36:12airfield and that's how we're addressing

36:14all the issues and challenges at OARL.

36:17And of course, Sky Harbor is going to be

36:18the new FBO. We haven't had a FBO there

36:21in more than 30 years, a new FBO.

36:24So, those are the things that we're

36:25doing in the in the short term. What

36:28year one, two, say year five.

36:30Uh what are we doing in terms of five

36:33years from now, 10 years from now, 20

36:35years from now? We have four strategic

36:37pillars that we're focusing on. Customer

36:39experience, community, infrastructure,

36:42and people. And on customer experience,

36:44we want to provide a passenger with

36:46information even before they leave their

36:47house. They know exactly what's

36:49happening at the airport, how long it

36:50will take. Um they can know where all

36:52the checkpoints are. We're going to be

36:53widening the roadways. The board

36:55approved that already. So, they can get

36:57to the airport. I spoke about the

36:58parking guidance system um earlier. So,

37:01they'll be able to get to a parking

37:02spot. Also, in the future, they'll be

37:04able to reserve a specific spot. So, you

37:06reserve spot X

37:082X or something. So, you don't even have

37:10to worry about where exactly you're

37:12going to park. We're going to be

37:13transforming, as I said, the interior of

37:16the facility. And we're going to be

37:18using technology. You can opt in and you

37:20basically can use your face to go

37:22through security or to purchase anything

37:24at the airport if you so choose. So,

37:26that's where we're going. We want to

37:27make sure we have a seamless,

37:28predictable experience um for our

37:30passengers. Community is the other

37:32pillar. As you can see, we do a lot of

37:34community activity. We think it's

37:35important to have the community members

37:38ingrained in what's happening

37:40um at the airport. But also, we think

37:41it's important that everyone understands

37:44that the airport serves as a huge

37:45economic engine for the region. Some of

37:48the pictures you're seeing here is from

37:49last year's MCO Means Business, where we

37:51match um

37:53small companies with very large

37:55companies, try to partner with them so

37:56they understand and they can partner to

37:58come up with the opportunities that we

37:59have at the airport. We just had our MCO

38:01Means Business on Friday. We had maybe

38:031,500 to 2,000 um people that

38:06participated in it. It was a huge

38:08success.

38:10And then infrastructure, we have to

38:11continue building the infrastructure,

38:13the number of gates that we need, the

38:15restrooms, the number of stalls. Not

38:17only restrooms, we need to build smart

38:18restrooms. So, we're piloting at least

38:20one smart restroom now where the

38:21restroom will tell you when it's time to

38:23clean it.

38:24Gone are the days when you just clean a

38:25restroom on a routine basis. That

38:27doesn't make any sense anymore. So, the

38:28restroom will have the information to

38:30tell you the soap dispensers are empty

38:32um right now. It hasn't been cleaned in

38:34X time. 100 people just passed through

38:36the restroom. It's time to clean it now

38:37and not on any particular schedule.

38:41And um we can't do any of this without

38:43people, right?

38:45We need to have the talent. we need to

38:47have um the number of people, we need to

38:50have people with the right training to

38:51make all of this happen. And one of the

38:53things you're seeing here is what we

38:55have, we call it the dolphin tank. It's

38:57a spin-off from Shark Tank. So, anyone

38:59in the organization at any level, it

39:01doesn't matter what you're doing, what

39:02what level you are in the organization,

39:04you can present an idea to us that

39:06addresses a customer service problem,

39:08generate revenues, whatever it is. And

39:10we have the Shark Tank each quarter, and

39:13it's been extremely successful so far.

39:16So, that concludes my presentation.

39:20I will have the vision video just

39:23running in the background while I try to

39:25answer any questions that you may have.

39:26The vision video shows the what's going

39:29to be happening at the two airports

39:31over the next 15 20 years, how it's

39:33going to feel, look, and operate. I'll

39:35just have it running in the background,

39:37and I'm happy to answer any questions

39:39that you may have. Thanks for the time.

39:41>> Okay, thank you, Lance. And we do have a

39:42few questions. It'll be Commissioner

39:44Sheen, then Rose, then Keen. Mr. Sheen.

39:47>> Uh thank you very much. Um what is a

39:49vertipad?

39:50>> So, a vertipad

39:52>> [laughter]

39:53>> It's it's

39:54It's like a helipad, you know, a

39:56helicopter takes off, but it's for

39:57eVTOL, electronic vertical takeoff and

39:59landing vehicles. Like Jetson.

40:01>> Cool.

40:02>> Yes.

40:02>> Where where would those be coming from?

40:04>> So, we're going to be Well, we're going

40:06to be

40:07It's a network that we're doing. We're

40:09working with Tampa It's being led by

40:11FDOT. It may be coming from Tampa.

40:16Yes, yeah.

40:18Yeah. So, we'll be testing this because

40:20the expectation is this will be one of

40:21the norm

40:23way to move around in the future.

40:25>> Well, as long as it gets to Tampa, it's

40:26it's a great idea. So, thank

40:27>> And you you avoid a lot of traffic,

40:29especially on the I-4 corridor.

40:30>> And Commissioner, we would envision

40:32there will be helipads in downtown

40:34Orlando, too.

40:35>> Pardon say again, sir?

40:36>> There would be helipads in downtown I'm

40:38sorry, vertipads.

40:40>> Vertipads, yes, yes, yes.

40:41>> There's a the way, because helicopters

40:43are a lot lighter and don't have as much

40:46um

40:47resistance, I suppose, as

40:49>> And it only works if you have multiple

40:51aircraft ties.

40:52>> Yeah, you got to have a place to take

40:54off and a place to land.

40:54>> Exactly, yeah.

40:56>> Okay. And uh I also um I just want to

40:59say about Colonial Promenade. I mean,

41:00that used to be destination shopping. It

41:02used to be fabulous years ago. And I

41:04always say, the problem with retail is

41:06bad management. So, I'm glad that you

41:08all are finally doing something with it,

41:10but I you know, I just like to say it's

41:13it's it's adjacent to my district, but

41:15you know, I mean, it's just sat there

41:17and languished and languished and

41:18languished for years, and we really do

41:19need to use it. So, I'm I'm I'll be very

41:22happy to see, you know, a presentation

41:24once you all are ready, but it's

41:26probably been 15 or 20 years, and it's

41:29just been an eyesore along Colonial

41:30Drive there.

41:32>> Yeah, I drive past there all the time,

41:34and I have stakeholders that ask me the

41:36question, is you're going to be I think

41:39you're going to be

41:40pleased after Wednesday.

41:42>> Well, thank you, cuz like I said, it

41:43used to be destination retail.

41:44>> Yeah.

41:45>> It's it's a

41:46high priority for myself on the board.

41:48It used to be a place people wanted to

41:49go.

41:49>> Yeah.

41:49>> And you know, now it's just, you know,

41:52been it's just gotten worse and worse

41:53and worse. So,

41:54um and I applaud you for doing the

41:56tie-down space because during weather

41:59events, hurricanes, and stuff like that,

42:01we have had problems with the planes,

42:03you know, almost ending up in the

42:04roadway. So, I'm I'm delighted to hear

42:06that you're doing that because, you

42:08know,

42:08a lot of times during hurricanes, during

42:10a weather event, we won't have enough

42:12notice, and you know, the the they don't

42:15have enough time to tie the planes down.

42:16So, I'm glad that you all are putting

42:17that infrastructure in. So, thank you

42:19for that.

42:20>> Thanks, Commissioner. Kudos again to

42:21Judith and and her team. They came up

42:23with this really great idea.

42:25>> That's all I had, Mayor. Thank you.

42:26>> Commissioner Rose.

42:27>> Thank you for your presentation, thank

42:28you, Canada and um and Lance. I have a

42:31question. So, most airports that you go

42:33to, there is there are designated rental

42:36car

42:37um space. Are we moving to that at any

42:40point? Is that part of the vision? Cuz

42:41it's a mess and a nightmare, and

42:43especially for like regular day-to-day

42:45parking.

42:46>> Yeah. The answer is yes. As a matter of

42:48fact, when I just started, there was a

42:49plan to build a consolidated rental car

42:52and facility. I kind of put it on pause.

42:55Couple of things. One was the cost, the

42:57other was the time and also where

42:59exactly would it be located. So, that's

43:02still in the plan. If you look at the

43:03master plan, you will see it included in

43:05it. However, we figured that the faster

43:08way to address

43:10the whole rental car issue is to build

43:12the additional parking space. We could

43:13get those done faster and we could

43:16alleviate the problem quicker and could

43:17maybe tide us over for another 10 years

43:20or so and give us additional time.

43:22Here's the plus. There pros and cons

43:24associated with a consolidated rental

43:26car facility.

43:28Chances are it's going to be to the

43:29south in terminal C. So, many airports

43:32as you said have a consolidated rental

43:33car including two or three that I've

43:35worked at before. So, with the

43:37consolidated rental car facility, it's

43:40far more efficient for the car rentals

43:41cuz their costs are reduced because they

43:43don't have three operations taking

43:44place. It's consolidated in one place.

43:47From the passenger perspective, though,

43:49there are some cons. So, every

43:51passenger, whether you're at

43:53um leaving from A, B, or C, you will

43:55have to return that rental car at that

43:58consolidated rental car facility at C.

44:01If you're at C, fine, you get on your

44:02airplane. If not, you have to get back

44:04on the train to get back over to AB.

44:07Right? So, pros and cons associated with

44:09it. Right now, it's very convenient.

44:11Whether you're at A, B, or C, you drop

44:12your car off and you get on your

44:13airplane, but it's not efficient for the

44:15rental car companies because they have

44:17three operations taking place.

44:19So, it's a far more complicated than

44:21just adding We have to take that into

44:23consideration. Also, if we have so many

44:25more rental car um

44:28users going all the way to C, do we have

44:30to increase the number of trains that we

44:32have going back and forth between So,

44:34we're looking at all of that and that's

44:35one of the reason why I kind of hold on.

44:37Let's put the the parking garages in

44:39place and then spend some more time

44:41looking at this rental Also, the cost

44:44It was very, very expensive and if we

44:46were to do that um project, we it would

44:49eliminate maybe two or three other major

44:51projects that we needed to get done. So,

44:52the financials was another challenge to

44:55get that done as well.

44:56>> Um thank you. Um

44:59So, you mentioned Terminal A B, it's

45:03confusing.

45:05How are we going to improve

45:06communication for A B parking right now?

45:09Because if you don't pay attention to

45:10where you park, so no matter what name

45:12we change to name, will we work better

45:15with communicating the different where

45:17you park at?

45:18>> And that's why that study has to be

45:20>> [laughter]

45:21>> so extensive. Because if we if we we are

45:24So, we're Brad Brad Phil, who leads our

45:27planning team, he's going through

45:29leading through that exercise now. If

45:30it's Terminal 1, so what's the parking?

45:32Is it north? Is it south? We're looking

45:34at what other airports, for example, if

45:36you go to some airports like Atlanta,

45:38they have a south and a north side. And

45:40everything on the north side is blue.

45:43Everything on the south side is red,

45:45etc. So, it's easy easily identified.

45:47So, we're looking at various different

45:49ways, but it's I I can promise if you

45:51walk with that badge through the airport

45:53right now, chances are somebody's going

45:55to ask you, "Where is A?" And you're

45:56"It's right here." They're like, "No,

45:58I'm at B." I'm like, "Okay, step over

46:00the line. Now you're at A." It's really

46:02one terminal.

46:03>> Okay.

46:04>> It just have different you know, sides

46:06to that terminal. So, it's it's not it's

46:08not an easy

46:09um

46:10transaction or transformation that we're

46:12cuz the roadway signs have to change,

46:14the parking garage is a lot of change.

46:16But we think it's the best thing to do

46:18for the future of this airport. Cuz it's

46:20just going to get more confusing cuz

46:21we're going to keep growing and having

46:23more people coming to the airport.

46:25>> Okay. Thank you. And the last thing I

46:26will say is I have airport socks from

46:29the carpet. So, I guess they will become

46:30classics and

46:31>> on the carpet side.

46:32>> So, I need to put them up, you know,

46:33hold them cuz they'll become antiques.

46:35>> Okay.

46:35>> Thank you.

46:36>> Thank you. I have my socks on right now.

46:38Not the carpet one, but my MCO socks.

46:41>> Commissioner Keen.

46:43>> Thank you, Mayor. I I've got like an

46:45hour and a half of questions.

46:46>> Okay.

46:47>> [laughter]

46:47>> We have that much time.

46:49I I do have a couple comments. As you

46:51know,

46:52the airport's wholly inside District 1.

46:54I'm sorry, MCO is. We won't talk about

46:57the executive airport. Um Um

46:59So, I've got neighbors that are very,

47:01very interested in Canada's been

47:04very helpful. We're going to reach out

47:06to homeowners, but they're very

47:07interested in that vertiport.

47:08>> In the sorry?

47:09>> In the vertiport.

47:10>> What a vertiport? Yeah.

47:11>> Yeah, they're very interested in that. I

47:13know there's been some changes that that

47:15that have happened over time, you know,

47:17where where you were going to put it,

47:18the maintenance facility for it, etc.

47:20So, just wanted to stay in close contact

47:22with you with those neighbors that

47:25are in North Lake Park and

47:27that area there is pretty

47:29pretty important to them, so it's pretty

47:31important to me.

47:32Um a a side comment on the on the

47:35walking and I I saw your animations

47:37there. One of the um

47:40calls that I recently received was

47:43wasn't getting to the gate, which is

47:46a long distance, but it was getting from

47:48the gate through customs that there

47:50seems to be a disconnect there with the

47:51walking.

47:53And there's a lot of transportation

47:55uh

47:57options. You know, you showed that

47:58little uh

47:59that little cart that could take people

48:01and you showed the the moving sidewalk,

48:04but we didn't show anything from the

48:05gate through customs and then to baggage

48:08claim. That's where a lot of

48:09international travels are going to have.

48:11And obviously they're international

48:12travelers, maybe they don't

48:14they don't get the um the ability to

48:17address, you know, with their comments

48:19this this body here, but they're very

48:20important to us, right? So, we want to

48:22make sure that they're taken care of,

48:23too. And it's a really long haul for

48:26somebody getting off the gate

48:28from the gate, getting through customs,

48:30and then getting to baggage claim or

48:31whatever the the order is. So, just

48:34wanted to put that in your

48:37>> Yeah, um I'm very aware of that. I had

48:40some folks I thought they were my

48:41friends. They invited me over to dinner

48:43and then they let me have it because

48:45they came in on an international flight

48:47and they had to go through exactly what.

48:48So, they I was at the table and I was

48:50like, "If I knew I wouldn't have come to

48:51dinner."

48:52>> resident who's not much older than me.

48:55>> But

48:55>> complaining about the distance and how

48:57>> Yeah, so that's one of the things we're

48:59we're looking at. Um, if

49:02the the gates that we have right now

49:04when you get off an airplane, a couple

49:06of things you're going up the ramp. Not

49:08only that, the ramp is carpeted. It's a

49:11difference between moving

49:13um a bag up a carpeted ramp versus say

49:16terrazzo or hard floor.

49:18>> to weigh in on which way I like carpet

49:19or hard surface.

49:20>> Yeah, that's

49:21right. So, we're looking at that, but

49:22we're also looking at moving moving

49:24sidewalks as well. The the big challenge

49:27I'm we're kind of knocking our brain was

49:29removing the moving sidewalks initially

49:32wasn't necessarily the key thing. The

49:34key thing was shrinking the building. If

49:37you had kept the size of the building,

49:38we could always just put the moving

49:39sidewalks back. Also, the building is

49:42curved. So, it's challenging to put a

49:44moving sidewalk and then have a curve.

49:46But, um we we just actually did a um had

49:49a report a study done by our planning

49:51team, and they're looking at various

49:52different ways to on where to put the

49:54moving sidewalks in. It gets complicated

49:57because we put it in certain places on

49:58this moving sidewalk, you bypass a

50:00concessioner.

50:02And the concessioner is not going to

50:03like that because there's a lot of

50:04people that's bypassing. So, where do we

50:06put them? Where do we stop? So, we're we

50:07have all of that in the plan, including

50:09getting from the gate over to um a

50:12customs and and border protection as

50:13well. So, give us a little bit more

50:15time. It's it's not a easy problem to

50:17solve, but we have some really smart

50:18people working on it.

50:19>> Great. Couple more things, Mayor.

50:22The uh I'd like to see you add some

50:24animation with the SunRail

50:26to your animation there. You you showed

50:28the the Brightline, and you showed

50:30[clears throat] your people movers, but

50:31I didn't see SunRail on there. And you

50:33know, you did mention that SunRail is

50:35important, and I want to make sure that

50:36we emphasize how important it is to get

50:38SunRail on there.

50:38>> The SunRail actually is there. It's on

50:40it. I may I may need to I may need to

50:42make it brighter, but no, but it is

50:44there.

50:44>> I saw the Brightline. I I guess I missed

50:46it.

50:46>> Yeah, because we actually have

50:47real videos for the Brightline cuz it's

50:49actually But no, SunRail was right

50:50there. Sorry, I I need to make it bigger

50:52next time.

50:52>> It will help you with getting people to,

50:54you know, to the station that are that

50:56are worker I mean, it's going to be a

50:57really good addition to I we just need

51:00it sooner.

51:00>> Oh, yeah, and our planning team has been

51:02working very closely with the city and

51:03all the stakeholders on this as well.

51:05Yeah.

51:06>> And then the last question the the the

51:07question I have and it it it concerns uh

51:10small businesses. Uh for example, I just

51:12went to Zaza's opening over here at Sodo

51:14and I know they're out at the airport

51:16and it's one of the iconic uh

51:18restaurants here that and I saw that in

51:20your presentation you're going to try to

51:21get local restaurants. Uh

51:23I know that we have a lot of small

51:25businesses that like to do work at not

51:26just restaurants, but they like to do

51:28maintenance, they like to do building,

51:29etc. And I think we're going to see

51:31something on that this afternoon or the

51:34next council meeting on making sure that

51:37between the Orange County, the city, and

51:38the airport we have some

51:40uh

51:41commonality so that folks don't have to

51:43apply to all three different things to

51:45get into a small business program, if

51:47you will. I certainly like I know

51:49separate governance, but I certainly

51:50like to see some

51:51some uh opportunities for our small

51:53businesses to operate out there at the

51:56airport.

51:56>> Yeah. So, if I could speak a little bit

51:58about that. Let me have to phone a

51:59friend and I'll check the friend is

52:00here. Oh, the friend is here. So, we we

52:02just got board approval for LDB, local

52:05development business program, and our

52:06new small business um program as well.

52:08Both of them were approved um last week

52:10at the board meeting. Um Aaron Itt and

52:13the team has been working very closely

52:14not only with the city, but also with

52:16the county as well. And one of the our

52:18objective was to have reciprocity

52:21um you know, with the city and the

52:23county. That that's one of the reason

52:24why we waited until the county and the

52:26city had completed theirs. However, once

52:28we started getting into the details, we

52:30started looking at personal net worth,

52:32we started looking at um gross receipts,

52:35etc. Our program is slightly different.

52:38So, our threshold are a little bit

52:40different. So, it was kind of very

52:41difficult to have like 100% reciprocity

52:44um across the the the three entities. We

52:48also um

52:49looked at what other airports with that

52:50munici- or the other municipalities were

52:52doing. We had work sessions with the

52:54actual small businesses um two had two

52:57sessions um with them and we got a lot

52:59of feedback.

53:00>> Mhm.

53:00>> So, we incorporated those feedback into

53:02our program. So, we it's it doesn't look

53:06exactly like the the city and the county

53:09because again the threshold might be

53:10different. However, we are both all

53:13three of us are going to be using the

53:14B2G now system to do the certification.

53:17So, once you're certified with the city

53:18and the county and you try to certify

53:21with us a lot of information that's

53:23there already will be ported over to us.

53:25That's what I'm understanding that it

53:27that it will work. So, you might not

53:29have full reciprocity but you'll have an

53:31accelerated um process. So, you don't

53:33have to go through the entire

53:34certification effort again. And that's

53:37kind of like the closest we could have

53:38gotten to reciprocity. But we're working

53:40we've been working very closely with the

53:41city and the county to make it easier

53:43for the small

53:43>> by state law or by federal law when it

53:45comes to this?

53:46>> Pardon?

53:46>> Is it covered by state law, federal law,

53:48or is it combination?

53:49>> So, the the LD the LDB um

53:52program is state

53:55and local. Yes.

53:56>> Okay.

53:57>> I can follow up with her if you want.

53:58She can.

53:59>> All right.

54:00>> Yeah.

54:00>> All right. That's all I have here.

54:02>> I'm sure you'll remember that we had

54:04MWBE programs at both the city and the

54:07county and how the federal government

54:09made us get rid of them. We said we

54:11couldn't have any federal grants if we

54:14had an MWBE program. So, that's why

54:16we're right. So, it wasn't exactly law

54:18but it was

54:20>> So, in addition to that there's the

54:21ACDBE and the DBE

54:24um program and they have a December

54:26deadline too.

54:29You want to make sure they can hear you.

54:31Yes. Yes. Yes.

54:32>> We're waiting for the entire unified

54:34certification participants to complete

54:36that before we can start reevaluating

54:38the goals that we placed on our federal

54:40contracts.

54:45>> Okay, thank you Commissioner.

54:46Commissioner Burns then Commissioner

54:47Chayton.

54:48>> Uh

54:49thank you Mayor [clears throat] and uh

54:50Lance great uh great presentation.

54:52Um and there's a lot of great uh

54:55economic activity that's happening a lot

54:57of exciting things and Commissioner King

54:59touched on the area that I wanted to

55:00speak on is our uh small and local

55:03business being able to contract. So, I

55:06want to applaud you and your team for

55:07revamping your plan and trying to get

55:09close to the reciprocity. So, when when

55:12you revamped your the several

55:15programs that you had, do you all

55:17establish new goals? Uh and and if you

55:20can't speak on those goals, then are

55:21they different for the different

55:23program?

55:24>> So, we the LDB program was revamped. It

55:27hadn't been updated since 2014. The SBP

55:29is a brand new program.

55:31>> exist before.

55:31>> SBP is the small business program.

55:33That's brand new. It just didn't exist

55:35before. So, everything in there

55:37is new. Again, we got feedback from

55:41research we did with other municipality,

55:43with the city, with the county, but very

55:45importantly, the actual small

55:46businesses. So, they kind of guided us

55:48in terms of what the thresholds should

55:50be. So, we looked at personal network.

55:52We looked at gross receipts and what

55:54those thresholds should be. And I'll ask

55:55Arnetta to elaborate a little bit, but

55:57one of the big concerns that we had was

55:59you have companies that are considered

56:01small businesses. And depending on the

56:03threshold, if they graduate from that

56:05small business, they enter into the

56:07space

56:08where it's we call it Middle-earth,

56:09where you're no longer a small business.

56:11You're not You don't have the small

56:12business protection, but you're now

56:14competing with these much bigger

56:16business. So, Arnetta and the team

56:17structured it so you that you can

56:19graduate from the LDB program,

56:21and then you can transition into the SBE

56:24program, so you still have that type of

56:25protection without being competing with

56:27the bigger guys. I don't know if you

56:28want to elaborate on this a little bit

56:30more.

56:31>> Absolutely. So, I think you were asking

56:32about the goals. So, we will do our

56:34goals based off of relative

56:35availability. So, how we come up with

56:37that formula, we're looking at the

56:38certified firms and the US Census data

56:41for that particular area of expertise,

56:43and that's how we come up with our goals

56:44for each project. So, if we're talking

56:47about an annual goal, we did decide not

56:48to go with the annual goal, and really

56:50be project specific in how we identify

56:52opportunities for our small business.

56:54>> Connect, what can you give me like an

56:56example of what a goal in one of those

56:58areas may be?

56:59>> Absolutely. So, for right now, being

57:01that we have for our old LDB program, we

57:03have roughly about 134 actual firms

57:06certified to date. And so, depending on

57:08construction, if we have enough firms,

57:11we may put a 11% goal on that project

57:13based off of the availability.

57:15>> Okay.

57:16>> So, once we get more firms in our

57:18programs, which we're going to be

57:19actively engaging the community to

57:20increase that. Um we start our first

57:22session on Monday uh talking about the

57:24certification opportunities. And so,

57:26once that increases, then our goals will

57:28be reflective of our local business

57:29community.

57:30>> Okay, good. Thank you.

57:31>> Yeah, and if I could add to that um

57:33Commissioner, say if you have a

57:35if you're doing a project where there's

57:37a roadway or taxiway or something, you

57:39have a lot of flat work and trucking,

57:40and we have a lot of companies that it

57:42fits into that next code, the goal might

57:44be higher. If it's, you know, something

57:46maybe some design work and it's specific

57:48to environment or something where there

57:49are smaller number of firms, then the

57:51goal more than, you know,

57:53obviously it's going to be smaller. So,

57:54that's what Arnett is saying. It's

57:56Initially we're thinking do we just set

57:58a goal, but that wasn't really

57:59practical, so it's going to be project

58:01dependent.

58:01>> Right. And then my last question, Mayor,

58:04uh in reference to the uh Colonial

58:06Promenade, um

58:07is there a chance, and I know you you're

58:09keeping a lot of things under wraps, but

58:11is there a chance that we'll see some

58:12housing

58:14as part of that development?

58:15>> I unfortunately as um as a Commissioner,

58:18we I can't preempt it because we're

58:20briefing the board November 4th.

58:23Sorry, is it

58:24>> Oh, yes. November 4th, 9:30 at OIA.

58:27>> At OIA. And it's a public meeting, so I

58:29mean anyone can come in and

58:31yeah.

58:32>> Good. Thank you. That's all, Mayor.

58:33>> And the Mayor is on the board as well,

58:35so I need to brief the Mayor before I

58:37brief everybody else, sorry.

58:39>> Mr. Chairman.

58:40>> Thank you for that presentation. Welcome

58:43belated welcome to Orlando.

58:45When you were named the new

58:48executive director, I know you came with

58:50a very impressive resume, so

58:52welcome to Orlando and we're glad to see

58:54you here.

58:55Again, I just would like to echo the

58:57importance of the Colonial Promenade. I

58:59know there was

59:02some talk about the length of leases,

59:04whether it was 5 years or 10 years, and

59:06and how airport concessionaires at OIA

59:10were kind of used to that 3, 5, 10-year

59:12cycle, but potentially uh tenants in a

59:16more uh retail-oriented, you know, city

59:18space weren't maybe didn't fit in some

59:21of those guidelines. So, I'll be curious

59:23to to see uh the presentation in a

59:26couple of weeks or next week, I can't

59:27remember when. Um but also just

59:29encourage your staff, you got a great

59:31staff, um to reach out to our city

59:33staff, especially our economic

59:35development team in terms of assisting

59:38in any of those areas.

59:40Um

59:41you mentioned that uh the new

59:43terminology is going to be Terminal 1,

59:45Terminal 2, and we've already got plans

59:46for Terminal 3.

59:48Do we have any space for Terminal 4 or

59:505? What's the what's the runway for

59:53>> I'm going to be long gone. I'm probably

59:55going to be long gone before

59:56>> [laughter]

59:57>> I Um

59:59Terminal I mean, if you look at the

1:00:00diagram that I showed, Terminal 3, we're

1:00:02at several hundred gates. That's

1:00:05>> Okay.

1:00:06>> huge, yeah. That's going to be way

1:00:08>> Well, that's what we thought in 1980.

1:00:10>> Yeah. By that time, we might have Star

1:00:12Trek, where we're like trans burned from

1:00:14one place to the other, so.

1:00:15Um no, but we but really should If you

1:00:17look at our master plan going all the

1:00:19way um to 2050, you'll see the plans

1:00:22that we have and the capacity that we um

1:00:24that we're putting in place.

1:00:25>> Yeah, cuz I know it's nearly impossible

1:00:27to do You can't shut down A or B to

1:00:30rebuild. I mean, you

1:00:30>> We don't have that luxury, yeah.

1:00:32>> Um you mentioned um the airport is

1:00:35really a a story of really two stories,

1:00:37peaks and valleys, and and we see that

1:00:39in government, we see that on I-4, we

1:00:41see that with OUC, we see that with OIA.

1:00:45Um

1:00:46Is there any talk about um

1:00:49modifying or incentivizing passenger

1:00:53behavior to to try to smooth out some of

1:00:55those peaks? I know you know, you're

1:00:57you're at the mercy of the airlines in

1:00:58terms of when when

1:01:00you know,

1:01:01when those flights are coming out of

1:01:02Atlanta or New York, but um

1:01:05has the airport given thought to to

1:01:08you know, can you incentivize passengers

1:01:11that have a flight at 10:00 or 11:00 to

1:01:13get there earlier to ease, you know, the

1:01:17crunch coming in or the crunch going

1:01:18out. Is that Is that something that that

1:01:20leadership has looked at?

1:01:22>> That's a discussion that's been going on

1:01:23for a long time. Not just at our

1:01:25airport, at many airports

1:01:27as well. And that would be

1:01:29a decision that the airlines would make.

1:01:31However, if you look at the trends over

1:01:33the years, you'd see these peaks and

1:01:35valleys. Now, the peaks the it's

1:01:38plateauing a whole lot more. So, the the

1:01:40peaks are a whole lot longer. So, people

1:01:42are traveling at different

1:01:44times.

1:01:45On the international side, it's kind of

1:01:47very difficult because when an

1:01:48international flight comes in, it has to

1:01:50leave at a certain time and you have to

1:01:51have a certain bank that you catch so

1:01:53you can get the connecting flights, etc.

1:01:56coming in. So, that part is a little bit

1:01:58more challenging, but

1:02:00you know, demand is what drives

1:02:02everything and there are people who

1:02:03wants to fly at a certain time. Most

1:02:05people don't want to fly

1:02:07in at midnight or at

1:02:0910:00. They want to fly at 8:00 in the

1:02:11morning or 6:00 or 5:00 in the morning.

1:02:13And I understand

1:02:13>> Yeah, I guess we we see the airlines do

1:02:15it, right? I mean, the popular flights

1:02:17are more expensive and and maybe flying

1:02:19earlier is less expensive or they they

1:02:21demand pricing. I didn't know if we

1:02:23would

1:02:24do anything with that for for

1:02:26concessions, for parking, for

1:02:27transportation. I don't It's just, you

1:02:30know, try try to avoid some of those

1:02:31peaks and valleys or smooth them out,

1:02:33but I'm sure to your point

1:02:35the the peaks are becoming just the new

1:02:37the new

1:02:38>> They're becoming plateaus, you know, a

1:02:39lot. So, yeah.

1:02:40>> Thank you.

1:02:41>> Okay.

1:02:42>> Okay, Lance, thank you for being here.

1:02:44We'll have you back next year.

1:02:45>> Thank you for having me. Appreciate it.

1:02:50>> All right, that is all the business we

1:02:51have for our workshop today. So, we will

1:02:54stand adjourned

1:02:56and we will convene our agenda review

1:02:58meeting.

1:03:00I have no request for public comment

1:03:02during the course of this meeting. Um

1:03:05Mr. Chapin, you're first up.

1:03:07>> I've been briefed, Mayor. Thank you. I'm

1:03:08all good.

1:03:09>> Mr. Sheahan.

1:03:10>> I had brief I've been briefed. I'm good,

1:03:12but I would like some assistance with my

1:03:13chair because I feel like I'm 8 ft tall

1:03:15and I cannot adjust this chair. So, is

1:03:18someone going to help me out after the

1:03:19meeting? I would appreciate it.

1:03:20>> I can help you.

1:03:21>> Where's that?

1:03:21>> One move forward. Move forward. No, no.

1:03:24Your hand one more.

1:03:25>> Let's hang on till after the meeting to

1:03:27do the chair adjustments.

1:03:29Commissioner Rose. [laughter]

1:03:30>> I've been briefed. I'm good, Mayor.

1:03:32>> Mr. Burns.

1:03:33>> I've been briefed. I'm good, Mayor.

1:03:34Thank you.

1:03:34>> Mr. Teen.

1:03:35>> Briefed and good to go, sir.

1:03:37>> Commissioner Ortiz.

1:03:38>> He's good.

1:03:39>> Okay.

1:03:40Um all right, we'll stand adjourned.

1:03:41We'll convene at 2:00.

1:03:43>> Thank you, Commissioner.

1:03:44>> You're welcome.

1:03:45>> [laughter]

1:03:45>> Motion.

1:03:48>> [music]

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