2026-10-07 - Library Commission

00:03Oh, hi everyone. And now it is 7 o'clock

00:08on October 7th, uh, 2026,

00:12Wednesday.

00:14And I call the, uh, Certino City Library

00:18Commission meeting to order.

00:22And now, yeah, we start the roll call.

00:27Um, commissioners out. Okay.

00:29Commissioner Jooshi. Yes. Vice Chair

00:32Santal.

00:32>> Can you repeat what is just coming?

00:35>> Can you repeat what is the what's

00:37>> Oh, is this roll call?

00:39>> Roll call. Oh, okay.

00:43>> And chair shoe.

00:44>> Yeah. Here.

00:46>> Great. And uh Commissioner Pan is

00:48absent. Might

00:51>> Okay. So the next is approval

00:54[clears throat]

00:55of the meeting minutes on August 5th,

00:592026.

01:03Is there any comments

01:06about

01:07>> I can move motion to approve the

01:09meetings? One second.

01:11>> Second.

01:12>> Okay, we can start to vote.

01:15Uh

01:18yes.

01:20Yes.

01:24>> Uh chair shoot.

01:26>> Yes.

01:32>> So the next one. Yeah. I'm going to uh

01:36propose a motion to move item uh number

01:40four. Uh, move it before the new

01:45business.

01:47>> A second.

01:49Uh, all neighbor.

01:52>> Yes, honey.

01:55>> All right. And I turn it over to you

01:57guys.

02:11All right. Well, welcome everyone. Um,

02:14Cooper Chino Library has been uh a very

02:17busy hub of activity all the month of

02:19September. Uh, we've been very excited

02:21to see everybody coming back from their

02:23summer vacations and school starting

02:25with all the students returning to study

02:27and work on their projects. um and just

02:30in general enjoyed being here uh in our

02:33spaces uh learning and being with

02:36friends and doing what teens do. Uh so

02:40in September we had uh almost 187,000

02:44items checked out here as a building. Uh

02:46which is uh very much on trend for

02:48everything that we've been doing this

02:49year. Uh 16,340

02:52people checked out those items. On

02:55average, we had just under 15,000 items

02:58put on hold for pickup. So that's items

03:00from the collection that's housed here

03:02within this building or we brought in

03:04from other buildings within our system.

03:06Um we had uh almost 102,000 people

03:09borrow electronic items online. So

03:12that's e audio books, uh ebooks, uh e c

03:16per curi, magazines, newspapers, um and

03:19even from our uh Chinese database

03:22collection uh high rates, they get

03:24checkouts there as well.

03:27Uh almost 70,000 people walked in our

03:30front door and so generally that

03:32translates into a couple thousand people

03:34every day with the weekends averaging

03:36between three and 4,000 people on a

03:38Saturday and again on a Sunday. So, we

03:41see a lot of people. It's great fun. Uh,

03:45and then we get a bonus when we have

03:46things like the bike fest that happen

03:48out in the plaza that bring in even more

03:49people to see what we have and

03:51experience. Uh, we had 717 booker

03:54meeting rooms uh to work on projects, do

03:58interviews, uh complete work assignments

04:01uh as well as the reading program comes

04:03in here to work with uh community

04:05members uh who are learning English and

04:07practicing those skills. Uh we had 88

04:09programs scheduled with just over 4,000

04:12people coming to attend those programs

04:15and another 14 individuals who booked uh

04:17this room here 2011 both house to come

04:20and and do programming as well.

04:22>> Excuse me.

04:23>> Oh yes.

04:24>> So what's the difference with the room

04:26booking and the community room rental?

04:29>> So the community room would be this uh

04:31we open up this wall behind you. So it's

04:33the entire space and the um

04:35>> some of the room you know refer to those

04:39>> the two halves on the right

04:41>> and then the room bookings the micro

04:42room downstairs the toy room and then

04:45that smaller half that we do during the

04:47weekday we make available not

04:50include this room no not including the

04:53whole space now

04:54>> okay

04:55>> I u I see there is a little bit of dip

04:59in from as compared to August and

05:02September number

05:04uh for the checkouts

05:06>> for the kid count kind of uh so is it

05:10just because of the school starting and

05:14it very well can be there's always a

05:16little bit of fluctuation but in general

05:19you were are holding purely steady on

05:20the number of people coming in a prize

05:23pick up we did have prize pickup I'm in

05:26August look like looks like August is a

05:28dated month Yeah. [laughter]

05:33>> Okay. Uh couple of uh photos from this

05:36month. Um the one on the left, we

05:39started doing a a hot takes poll on

05:41Sundays here uh people to come and just

05:45give their opinion on all kinds of

05:47random things and to have fun. Uh which

05:49also includes a little bit of editorial

05:52uh some interesting comments. But this

05:53particular one uh we asked how many

05:55bowls does a straw have? one, two, or in

05:59this case, uh, someone added at the

06:01bottom zero and a whole bunch of people

06:04that uh, so just a little bit of whimsy

06:06to to brighten up everybody's day on the

06:09weekends. Um, uh, the middle photo was

06:12the first session of our collaboration

06:15with Dan College. So, they're coming in

06:18to teach ESL 451

06:21uh, here uh, this semester. So, it'll go

06:24all the way through December 8th. It's

06:25on Tuesdays after our ESL conversation

06:27club. And so that particular class uh is

06:30also called ESL 251 and uh any community

06:35members who enroll can either uh pay for

06:37credit courses um and get uh an a degree

06:41from Danza or they can do it as the free

06:43program and you wind up with a

06:45certificate at the end of the ESL uh

06:48series. So, uh, this is our first

06:50attempt at trying to bridge the gap

06:53between what our reading program does to

06:56help people who are just coming in and

06:57learning English, our ESL conversation

07:00club, but for those who have a little

07:02bit more English skills in which to

07:04practice their speaking, and then this

07:06is a more formal education component.

07:08Um, and so far we've had some very good

07:09feedback and everybody is enjoying the

07:11experience. Uh and so uh Claire Baricio

07:15who is who coordinated all this and I

07:18are are very looking forward to seeing

07:19how a tire semester progresses and then

07:22what other future opportunities that we

07:24can bring here uh as we continue to work

07:26up. I'm in the photo on the right is a

07:30program that we had called uh

07:34ah sorry words are failing me.

07:38Um

07:39uh it was nutrition program for like gut

07:42inflammation. Uh so we had a lot of

07:43interest in just learning about being

07:45healthy and and the ways we can promote

07:48uh general health and the choices that

07:51we make within our lifestyles. Uh, our

07:54children's pictures were a little

07:55delayed this month due to illness and

07:57people being away conferences, so I

07:59didn't quite get them in yet, but

08:01eventually I will get those photos as

08:03well.

08:03>> Excuse me. The Banza program, you need

08:05to register in the Denza website or you

08:08need to ESL one is through Danza, so you

08:10have to enroll within the college

08:12itself.

08:13>> Uh, and when you go on their website,

08:15there's an entire section for ESL

08:17classes. Uh I not sure if they're taking

08:20any additional enrollments at this time

08:23because we're a few weeks into the

08:24semester. Uh but it is something that

08:27they offer every semester. So it can be

08:29done again.

08:29>> So you need to read this in the end

08:31county website. Another location will be

08:34here.

08:34>> It's here. Yes.

08:35>> Okay.

08:36In fact, I have forgotten to uh provide

08:38a picture of this room was booked for um

08:43one program from CLF and I forgot to

08:47send a picture which [laughter]

08:49>> that's okay. Life life moves quickly,

08:51doesn't it?

08:53>> So I remember so in our library there

08:56also some Yeah. Yes. So that's separate

09:00or

09:00>> our conversation club is separate. We

09:03also do that every single week and that

09:05you register for on our website. Then we

09:08usually have between 40 and 50 people or

09:11so attend. Uh so we open up this entire

09:13space and it's completely filled. Uh and

09:16so we have artfuls that just interesting

09:18things happening around the world. Uh

09:21just a little bit of a a grammar lesson

09:23if people want to general questions. Um

09:26and we let the conversation flow where

09:29it's going to go. We're not, you know,

09:32strictly here to any one thing. Um

09:35because we want people to be able to

09:36lead that and be comfortable and talk

09:38about what they're interested in and

09:40their own experiences.

09:41>> Yeah. And I I see the and so our ESL uh

09:45conversation club on the calendar. So

09:47that that's ours. This is the

09:50>> Yeah, this is the PGMO.

09:53>> Okay. Uh you can see this is the

09:55children's calendar for October. And as

09:58always, we have so much going on for um

10:00all of our little ones here at the

10:02library. Uh and here's some of the

10:04particulars. Uh we've got our regular

10:07story times that happen every single

10:09week as well as some uh special

10:10programs. So for uh Filipino American

10:14Heritage Month, which is the entire

10:15month of October, uh the children's

10:18department did a

10:20let me pronounce this incorrectly. A a

10:22Sarangala craft. So that's a a kite

10:25filmed by Filipino children. so that

10:27they get to experience that particular

10:29part of the culture. And then for

10:31Hispanic Heritage Month, um Alabrius is

10:34another one they're making. And so

10:36they're wooden spirit animals um that

10:39originate in Ohaka. Uh so children will

10:42be sculpting their own animal out of a

10:43clay and then decorating that and the

10:45spear to of uh what that uh what an

10:49alibra is. Uh for the teams we did or

10:52bada which is Mexican tin art. And so

10:55when you take up a very thin sheet of

10:57metal and it's embossed and decorated.

11:00Uh we also have Italian American

11:02Heritage Month this month. Um and they'd

11:04also be doing a lecture on Italian

11:06voices and the experience that

11:08Italian-Americans had here in the Bay

11:10Area during World War II because they

11:12was also uh interament that happened

11:14around that that's not as well known. Uh

11:17but I digress. Uh so back to the kids.

11:20Um, we're also doing uh

11:23children's literature for adults. So,

11:24they'll be reading doll bones this

11:26month. Uh, something a little bit spooky

11:28for Halloween. Uh, we do have a few

11:31different activities in celebration of

11:34Halloween and Das Das Deluxertos.

11:38Uh, so they'll be making sugar skulls on

11:40October 29th. Uh the the J-stack here

11:44will actually press the sugar into the

11:46sil shape and the kids have the

11:48opportunity to come in and decorate it.

11:49Uh and we've been doing this for a

11:51number of years and it's always great

11:52fun. Uh we will have a special Halloween

11:55story time and a costume parade for the

11:57little ones to come around and show off

11:59um all of their costumes. We walk around

12:01the inside of the library and then we go

12:03out and have a little bit of bigger

12:04parade. Miss some music and a buddy who

12:06loves that. Uh and we're also doing the

12:09no wrong way craft for Halby. So that's

12:12the theme. We let we put out all the

12:15markers and the paper and all of the

12:17things and let kids just be creative and

12:20use their imaginations and it's always

12:22fun to see what they come up with.

12:26For the adults, um we also have a a

12:29fairly big start to the month um ending

12:31with preparing for midterm election

12:34voting. Um we've got our free book

12:37clubs. The fiction book club will be

12:39doing we'll be reading and discussing

12:40the collective regrets cover by uh

12:44Mickey Bremer. The non-fiction book

12:46group will be reading tire call by Adam

12:49Meos and our mystery book club which is

12:51this morning and is tomorrow again. Uh

12:54we'll be reading all the cinders bleed

12:56by exit car. Uh we do have our regular

12:58ESL conversation clubs on Tuesday. We

13:01have knitting every Friday and uh

13:05there'll be a few other extra bits in

13:08there um that we do. Uh this Friday

13:11we're going to be doing an introduction

13:13to watercolor painting. So every time

13:15you bring out all the creative things

13:18for adults, they always enjoy

13:22being allowed to to do those kinds of

13:24things again because sometimes we forget

13:26how to have fun and use our imaginations

13:29outside the rigors of having to adult in

13:31being responsible in their lives. Uh

13:34master gardeners will be in at the end

13:36of the month. Um as well as the

13:37California Native Plant Society. Um

13:39they'll be talking about uh poet

13:41landscaping uh Senate Bill AB572

13:45that will be restricting uh watering

13:48grasses as an effort to move towards

13:51native landscaping.

13:53Um teens we have our our monthly flex

13:57prep seminar. So this month I'll be

13:59talking about college admissions and how

14:02that will lead to AI uh ethics and

14:05policies.

14:06We just finished up our fall series of

14:09Chong with Amy Yang, which was uh very

14:12wellreceived. So, we had about just

14:14under 40 people attend every league for

14:1710 weeks um to practice um and and

14:21socialize and be together.

14:24Um

14:26we also had Filipino American Heritage

14:28Month, Kira Hooks, come in. Uh she was

14:31here last Sunday and we had about 52

14:34people come to cure her. So she's a

14:36Filipino American singer, songwriter. So

14:38she performed both in English to Tagalog

14:41and she also brought uh a few other

14:43additional musicians that also sing at

14:44Tagalog. So we got to experience uh

14:47music in both languages.

14:52>> Okay. And October also brings our annual

14:55pumpkin decorating contests. Uh I hope

14:58you saw it when you walked in the front

15:00door. Currently, you've got 13 pumpkins

15:02out there decorated by our staff on

15:08book themes, characters,

15:12um

15:14or things that you might find in the

15:16library collection. Um so there's a

15:18whole range there as well as voting

15:20slips and we encourage everybody to go

15:22pick out their favorite one and vote for

15:24who they think is the best. And then at

15:27the end of October, we'll highlight the

15:28top three winners. And again, we've been

15:31doing this for a number of years now.

15:33And

15:35you usually get over a thousand entries.

15:37Takes us a little while to count it all

15:39up, but everybody seems to love it. And

15:41especially to see the kids, man, they

15:42walk up there and they're like, "Oh,

15:44that's my favorite. No, that's my

15:45favorite." And look at that one. And

15:47they go back and forth. It's it's really

15:49nice.

15:51Um

15:53the Santa Clair County register voters

15:55will be here in 2011 at the end of the

15:57month starting October 31st on Halloween

16:00to conduct voting for the midterm

16:02elections. Uh so they will be in this

16:04room for several days until voting. So

16:07we always encourage everybody to take

16:08advantage uh and exercise their their

16:12right to vote.

16:14and upcoming you do it's the end of the

16:17year festivities and holidays and we get

16:19a whole slew of closed days. So we will

16:22be closed this coming Monday for

16:23Indigenous People's Day. Um in November

16:26we'll be closed on the 11th for Veterans

16:29Day and in nove also in November uh

16:32Thursday the 26th for Thanksgiving as

16:35well as the 27th the day after

16:37Thanksgiving.

16:39Uh by my colleagues from

16:44Thank you. Yeah, thanks. So, yeah, very

16:48a lot of interesting programs. Oh, I

16:51didn't realize we have those pumpkin

16:54decoration contest. So, yeah, so many

16:57users. Wow.

17:00And the next

17:02>> All right. Fantastic. Uh nice to be with

17:05you all. Jennifer Wols, County Library

17:06of the Clair County Library District.

17:09Um, and again just uh thank you Karen

17:12for highlighting uh some of the really

17:15fun programs. Obviously we're coming to

17:17the end of Hispanic Heritage Month and

17:20then celebrating Filipino American

17:23History Month and of course I would say

17:26libraries love October, right? They love

17:29Halloween. So you can see it's already

17:31full in here of really exciting to see

17:34what's happening. I did want to point

17:36out um of course we do a lot of

17:38partnership with the county and being a

17:40voting center with the registar of

17:43voters is one of the real values we feel

17:46bringing to the community. I wanted to

17:48point out that it if you noticed it

17:50starts at 9:00 a.m. So that is a

17:53different um tactic that they are taking

17:57this year to standardize hours. So, I

18:01just want to shout out to the team in

18:03the city and that we're actually going

18:04to be opening the back door. Um, so what

18:08the library will not be open at 9:00

18:10a.m., but the voting center will be open

18:12from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. So, you

18:14know, again, we really want to make sure

18:16that we have that access available and

18:17the teen here is doing everything they

18:19can. And again, the the really

18:21thoughtful con um design of this

18:24building to allow for these different

18:26access points. Um, I I know the library

18:29foundation was very involved in that.

18:31So, I just wanted to point out how this

18:32how well this is being used.

18:35On Friday, October 16th, we are finally

18:40opening our new literacy center. So

18:44behind our administrative building in

18:47Campbell, we have a nuan new building

18:51that is partially for um some staff and

18:56then also a place for our reading

18:58program. And so as Karen uh referenced

19:01earlier, Lurs and tutors come together

19:06and this would give them another place

19:08for training and for coming together. We

19:12will be dedicating the large community

19:14room there to our past uh county

19:19librarian Nancy How who sadly passed

19:21away a few weeks ago. Um and many of you

19:25may have seen her name her and work for

19:27her uptowner. Uh and we're really

19:30pleased that this was a vision that she

19:32had for that program and so we will be

19:34dedicating that or next week which we're

19:37we're very excited about doing. Um, so

19:40those are just a few highlights I I

19:43wanted to share with you, but certainly

19:45happy to answer me questions and also to

19:47give thanks to your chair. I know I've

19:49seen you at a couple library events.

19:51Thank you for uh, you know, with the

19:53Taipei visit and then also um, just

19:56really being an advocate for your group.

19:58So, thank you. Thank you very much. Good

20:00seeing you at home. Thanks.

20:01>> Yeah. And good to see you coming to Cino

20:04so many times that. Thank you. Yeah.

20:10Okay. So, is there any clarific

20:14clarification questions for the update?

20:18Um,

20:22so uh yeah, I have a question. So, for

20:24the uh early voting and so does and

20:28every library they they have some Yeah.

20:32So they open in the distance earlier

20:35than the library time

20:37>> only the libraries that can physically

20:40do so. So in this case it's you Saratoga

20:44Morgan Hill and uh

20:47>> Saratoga. Did I say did I say Saratoga

20:49already? Um yes. So at Cubertino

20:52Saratoga Militus uh actually cannot do

20:55it. They do not have the facility to do

20:57it but Morgan Hill does. And actually

20:59our new building in Campbell, the nest

21:02will be uh having those 9:00 a.m. to

21:045:00 p.m. hours.

21:05>> Yes.

21:06>> So it really depends on the design of

21:08the

21:09>> It really does. It really absolutely to

21:11make sure that um and you know it really

21:14I appreciate the team here because it is

21:16a little bit confusing. People will want

21:18to get into other parts and we're going

21:19to have to tell them no and we're not

21:21quite ready for you yet. But again,

21:23we're glad to be able to at least give

21:25the access to the spaces that uh for the

21:27for Bod Good to know. We're very sorry

21:30for the hand.

21:31>> Absolutely. Absolutely.

21:33>> So the dropbox are not part of uh

21:35library managed or

21:37>> the drop the ballot boxes aren't handled

21:39by the ROV. Yes, they do all of that

21:41work.

21:42>> Walker.

21:45>> Yeah. If no more question. Yeah. Thank

21:48you for all the update.

21:50>> Thank you. Yes.

21:57So next is that our communication for

22:01non-aggenda item.

22:04Uh looks like no. Okay. So yeah, we

22:09start the new business. Uh the next is

22:13Certino library services feedback from

22:16King Commissioner. Welcome.

22:21And I think last time we did this, it

22:23was helpful that if you guys want to do

22:25introductions and then maybe just talk

22:27about how you currently are using the

22:29library um and then you can field the

22:32questions from the commissioners um and

22:35and share feedback on how you think that

22:37maybe things could uh improve or things

22:40that you heard from people you're from

22:42your peers. Uh yeah, so I can start. Hi

22:45everyone. Uh my name is Isabelle Tien. I

22:48go to I'm a junior at Kart Repatory

22:50right now. Um I really appreciate

22:52hearing all the updates of the library.

22:54I didn't know all these like uh programs

22:56existed and I really appreciate

22:58highlighting different cultures

22:59especially for different months

23:01dedicated to specific cultures. Um and I

23:04can definitely say one of the 70,000

23:06people that wer over the weekends

23:08especially I do a lot of studying over

23:10here. Um, I typically like to use either

23:12the teen space or like the quiet study

23:14room or just the general area over there

23:17on the second floor uh to get some

23:19studying done. It's also a great place

23:21to just run into some friends. Um, I

23:24definitely come here for group projects

23:25and also just work by friends uh

23:28especially in like more collaborative

23:30spaces. Um, yeah. So, I think there's

23:34definitely a lot of activity for people

23:36of all ages which I love. Uh I think we

23:39see a lot of teens here often, but it's

23:40great to have ESL programs and also

23:43obviously the children's stuff found

23:44Sarah's. Uh if there's any questions for

23:47me about how teens can um better or how

23:50the library can be better suited for

23:52teens like

23:55>> um I'm Ben. Uh I I go to CHN like

23:59Certino High School. It's like right

24:01there like like a mile away. I maybe

24:04I'll be less than a mile. I don't know.

24:06I'm bad at geography. Oh, I'm part of

24:09the teen commission like uh like these

24:12these two other people here and um I

24:15used to library a lot actually. Uh I'm a

24:17freshman and so a lot of the people at

24:20my school don't actually live around

24:22Cooper High School near that area. They

24:24actually lived like near here. They're

24:26near um Wilson Park, right? And so a lot

24:30of times we actually come here and meet

24:32for school projects and poster making,

24:34right? And I find that really useful

24:36because um we it's a place where you not

24:41only can just like work peacefully, but

24:43you can also uh read books if you want.

24:45You can study. Um you can even get on

24:48your computer and uh surf playing games

24:50if you like. But and nobody's going to

24:52judge you for that, right? Like that's

24:54what I like about the library. And

24:55additionally, I I a lot of time I

24:59volunteer in that building next to the

25:01library. I don't know what it's called.

25:02And so whenever I'm done volunteering, I

25:04just come here and start reading books

25:06because I like reading books. And I

25:09really like that about the library

25:10because I also think it's a place where

25:13there's a lot less judgment to be

25:14frowned. Like people don't judge you as

25:16much if you're just reading in the

25:18library and minding your own music.

25:22My name's Anya and I'm also a freshman

25:27at Cooper Shinaria School and uh I use

25:31the library like as like join like the

25:34events that happen here in the community

25:36rail and sometimes and like I'm a coach

25:39for like science Olympia so I use like

25:41the workspace area over there and then

25:44sometimes I come from Bino High School

25:47and like come here to study in like the

25:50second quarter A and I really like it

25:53because like I could just like I don't

25:55know something and instead of having to

25:57like uh like look for resources online,

26:01I can just like walk behind like a few

26:04steps and get like the sources that I

26:06need. So that's very good.

26:12>> So how many uh team commissioner in your

26:15comm

26:16>> uh how many?

26:18Oh, see. Yeah, I think it's eight. Do we

26:22have one alternate as well? I believe I

26:24think you have nine. Is it nine with the

26:26one? It should be an odd number. Nine.

26:29And then it's 10 with the alternate.

26:31Yeah.

26:32>> Or it's seven and eight. Yes.

26:34>> One or the other.

26:40>> Yeah. So, uh yeah, I I heard sometimes.

26:44So after school, would there be too many

26:47teens in the te area? I heard from

26:51Brian, he that if there's any uh if it's

26:55needed, they can even open these rooms

26:58if there's not enough uh teen uh teens

27:02space for high school students. Have you

27:06seen such thing happen

27:07>> in all the time of day? I think, you

27:10know, sometimes it does look a bit

27:12crowded in certain areas, but if you

27:13just walk around for a second, there's

27:15always somewhere to be found that's

27:17empty. So, like there's a quite study

27:18room over there and there's also bunch

27:20of room along the windows along like

27:23just a long book aisles. There's always

27:25space. Um sometimes you might not be

27:27able to sit next to your friends. Um

27:28like you might not be able find like two

27:30person or three, four, five person

27:32table, but um you can certainly find a

27:34single or small for your

27:35>> Yep. Yeah. I what is B said? Um, there's

27:38a lot of places to work in the library,

27:40right? You you don't necessarily need to

27:41open this room because like I think the

27:43city's done a great job at like

27:44designing the library. There's big

27:46workspace over there across from us. You

27:49can also go downstairs and work. Um, and

27:52overall this entire complex, this entire

27:55complex here, there's a lot of benches

27:56where you can just sit down. Eore.

27:58>> Oh, good to know. So, that would

28:01>> be too minor, especially on the

28:04weekends, but it's full. And provided

28:06that this room hasn't been booked for a

28:08program or by the community to use, we

28:10will open it up when we finally your

28:13city.

28:13>> Okay. Yeah. And so so your guide here is

28:19that you buy the uh buy some bike or

28:24maybe some public transportation or

28:28pirate.

28:29>> Yeah. So after school, I'm just want to

28:31know you did your guide to the library.

28:35I I was like right on the bike trail

28:38that goes down the creek and it comes to

28:40the library. So that's like really

28:41convenient for me. Like before that

28:44trail existed, I had to go through all

28:46those different roads and that like

28:47added a much unnecessary minutes. So So

28:50I think that trail useful because

28:53sometimes I ride my scooter, my electric

28:56scooter, a bike down that trail and I

28:59just come to the library to hang out.

29:02>> Um since I'm a junior, I have my license

29:03now. So, I just um drive one over, but

29:06before that I used Hopper. Oh, I me but

29:10um yeah, I use that to get here. It's a

29:12pretty convenient ride. It's definitely

29:14like a popular stop. So, you you don't

29:16have to wait super long. Yeah. Okay.

29:20Uh I still use the trail. So, like it's

29:23for Ken and you can just go straight

29:25down to like the park and then down the

29:29park there's like the creep. So, you can

29:30just spot extra

29:34It's pretty safe.

29:36Yeah. So you you me your your coach, you

29:39know, you're teaching some subject in

29:42here, some program,

29:43>> but not here like in the movies or down

29:46there.

29:47>> Yeah. So it's that program is uh

29:53you teaching for free or you know you um

29:56part of some organization.

29:58>> Uh I'm just a coach for like my daily

30:00score.

30:02Oh wow. Okay. Is that the room across

30:06the street?

30:09>> Like the right way over there. I think

30:10it's like what is it? I think the one is

30:15true.

30:16>> Yeah. It's basically science is the

30:19school program.

30:20>> School program.

30:20>> School program. But kids used to study

30:23here. Even like Kennedy kids here, Monta

30:26kids used to be here. So and they they

30:28book the room uh and the other side are

30:32creating tank rooms and then they has

30:35like the collaborative study.

30:37>> M nice good to know.

30:41We didn't know our library Yeah. is open

30:43for so many different uses. That's

30:46really good. which you have seen the

30:48calendar which are the popular

30:51uh programs that you would uh you would

30:55be interested personally you would be

30:57interested in participating or you would

31:00be wanting to add on to the

31:04>> um I think definitely the webinar or I'm

31:06not sure there's web but the one on

31:08college admissions I think that's one

31:10every high schooler mine especially in

31:12the Bay Area um so I I would love to see

31:15more programming in that area and also

31:17in AI literacy as well. That's something

31:19that's definitely a bit of discussion in

31:21my school and I'm sure it's been a

31:22discussion many schools around the area.

31:24Uh I think personal finance also

31:27financial literacy is also a big one. Um

31:30I think there's also public speaking.

31:32There's obviously school public um

31:34speaking at schools but just having

31:36centralized place where students can

31:38really practice that as a skill. And I

31:40think a lot of students in this area, me

31:42included, are looking to develop

31:43foundational skills that can help us

31:45later on in life. Um, and also just

31:49guest speakers in general. I would love

31:50to see like different kinds of musicians

31:52or different kind of community activists

31:54or community uh members here that could

31:57share some of their stories. As teens,

31:59we're always interested in hear I I know

32:01it might not sound like that sometimes,

32:02but we're always interested in hearing

32:04what um the people older than us have to

32:06say, people with a lot more experience

32:07have to say, and they can really act as

32:09role models. Uh and I think one last

32:12thing that sl

32:16I can come back to it later, but yeah.

32:18salt.

32:18>> So in November there is uh one speaker

32:21series which is uh exactly what you

32:24mentioned um uh there is a professional

32:28who comes with a counselor to guide the

32:31students. So

32:34just check out the calendar.

32:37So a couple of questions. Uh thanks for

32:40listing out all interesting things. I do

32:41public speaking, personal finance and

32:43yeah literacy stuffs, right? Uh so each

32:47school also has their own clubs, right?

32:49Like public speaking, they have clubs.

32:52If you had a chance to define what

32:54library it has to offer, what would be

32:56your preference? Like how do you want to

32:57look public speaking from high school or

33:00program perspective? Yes, you also have

33:02a school program, a school club

33:04activities and when if the library

33:06offers how that need to be different

33:09from your school?

33:10>> Yeah, absolutely. I think some of school

33:13programs are more centered around speech

33:14and debate, not necessarily giving or

33:17presentations to a large group of

33:19people. Um, I think there's also a lot

33:22of impromptu speaking. So, just

33:24workshops where you can have a space to

33:26practice that with people your age.

33:27That's a I think also at schools it

33:30might be a higher judgment zone just

33:31because okay it's people that you know

33:33you see every day you make a slip up

33:35think maybe you think they're they're

33:36going to make fun of you. I'm sure they

33:37are but I'm sure just like on your mind

33:39think they're going to make fun of you

33:40in class or something. But if it's a

33:42less pressure environment I think in

33:44library you can bring together a lot of

33:45people through a lot of different

33:46schools. We also get to hear diverse

33:48perspectives in that way. But um just

33:51having people that maybe you're not as

33:52familiar with. I know for me personally

33:54like if I'm speaking in front of a crowd

33:56at my school that's a lot scarier of me

33:58than speaking in front of people that I

33:59don't know. So I think it could be a

34:01lower risk entry. Okay. So it's

34:03typically the other way around right

34:04people familiar they would be more

34:06confident then the faces that is not

34:09familiar will be like a little bit

34:10reluctant. So you see that how do you

34:12take like the way you are explaining me

34:15is like you're comfortable with

34:17unfamiliar faces. Okay. Mistakes are

34:19okay there. I admit more mistakes are

34:21more okay there because you think oh I'm

34:23not going to see these people again

34:25teacher. So if you say like oh I don't

34:27have to see you in class I don't have to

34:28sit next to you I don't have to go like

34:30like carful with you back home like I

34:32just see you once and that's kind of it.

34:34And also when you're learning together

34:36um especially if a lot of people coming

34:38in here are kind of beginners and

34:40they're uncomfortable when you learn

34:41together you start becoming more

34:43comfortable with a group with um your

34:45skills and also with aggra. Okay. So, a

34:48couple of other questions, right? In

34:49terms of resources.

34:51So, I'm sure you guys have your own

34:54phones and here, right? But do you think

34:57enough resources available in here if

34:59you want to take some homework here or

35:01homework help something? I I see some

35:04other libraries offering like math

35:06homework help and other activities,

35:08right? Like uh do you see any such a

35:11need here? First question is on that one

35:14like resource perspective. anything on

35:17more computers, more terminals,

35:19>> anything you would like to see added to

35:23the existing facility.

35:27>> Um, overall, I think this facility here

35:30is pretty good. We have lots of

35:32computers and I like that

35:35>> we also uh I was seeing bandage for free

35:37tutoring and I think that's really

35:39useful cuz a lot of kids here could

35:41could use the help like including me. I

35:43struggle like oh when my m a lot and so

35:47he sometimes I think about using that

35:50tutor but I never got the chance. So

35:53>> So why you never got a chance because of

35:55the you didn't get a time to meet them

35:58or it's the crowd is high or like a lot

36:00of people?

36:01>> Um it's um when I tried registering for

36:05it um asked for my my library ID card,

36:10right? M and um I at that point I hadn't

36:16renewed it in a while, right? And so I I

36:18had to I didn't want to go through the

36:20cooch of coming back here and uh re

36:24renewing it, right? But after a while, I

36:28did finally decide to renew my library

36:29card. But by that time, I had already

36:31the eighth grade was already over,

36:32right? And I I was done in my math and

36:34it was summer. So at that point, I just

36:36came here and started relaxing, hanging

36:39out with my friend. I want to go with

36:40ice cream. No problem.

36:42>> Okay.

36:44And for the AI side, right, do you guys

36:47see um AI literacy, AI ethics, right?

36:50Terms of like obviously your school will

36:54be more concerned about the material you

36:56are giving back, right? Most of the

36:58schools are like

37:00finish the work at the class.

37:02>> Yeah.

37:02>> Because they want more control about

37:04that that you're doing it, right? So in

37:07terms of those kind of program do you

37:08see that need or value in a library that

37:11has a here is an AI ethics event is

37:14happening. How you can basically use AI

37:17for your school activities but you want

37:21to apply your creativity not just copy

37:23paste of chat GPT right uh do you guys

37:28uh has clarity already or do you think

37:30such a kind of initiatives will be

37:32helpful? I think that it's more clarity

37:34on how to use it more effectively. So I

37:37think at my school they've like created

37:39a specific program just for students to

37:41work with teachers on developing AI uh

37:44like rules and uh regulations starting

37:46at our school. Uh but it's about using

37:49it for using in a productive way first

37:52of all. So I think we could talk about

37:55specific ways to prompt where you're

37:56getting the most effective and accurate

37:58answer for what you're looking for. So

38:00that might include maybe saying like act

38:02as my math teacher, act as like this

38:05kind of person rather than just being

38:06like do this because it you're acting in

38:08a specific position like use schools

38:10example. If you act as my teacher,

38:12they're going to teach it to you in a

38:13step-by-step way rather than just saying

38:16like oh here's like the answer. And then

38:18I think it also has a lot of practical

38:20applications especially for uh looking

38:22for internships, looking for

38:24scholarships, looking for summer

38:26programs um that students might have

38:29trouble finding when they're just do

38:31simple Google searches. I know for me it

38:33definitely helped with res with some uh

38:36resume building. That's something that's

38:38pretty big. And then I think also um

38:42uh with interview practice, that's a big

38:45thing. I think schools don't really give

38:47you a lot of good opportunities for

38:49interviewing practice. So when I was

38:51doing my team commission thing, I'm sure

38:52with all of our team commissioners doing

38:54it in front of like a mayor Moore and

38:57all the vice mayor, all the vice chairs,

38:58all the commissioners, whatever, it was

39:00a more unfamiliar experience that I did

39:04bully hop practice for. But using AI

39:06tools, I was able to kind of refine my

39:07answers, refine my story, and I think

39:09that ultimately helped me get this girl

39:11as well. So there are some real life

39:12cult if I could add to your question too

39:15like I I totally agree with what said um

39:18like you can use AI for a variety of

39:20things right you can use it to uh

39:21research you can use it to study but all

39:23matters on like about how you prompt the

39:26AI right and I think um schools like

39:29right now they don't teach us enough

39:30about how to prompt an AI AI is a great

39:33tool you can use it to create

39:35simulations to create games to create

39:38code that helps you um solve aar provide

39:41you problems, right? For simulations as

39:43well, you can use it to show change over

39:45time, right? You can use AI for that.

39:47But for now, schools are telling us how

39:50not to use AI instead of telling us how

39:52to probably use it. So, I think that

39:54would be a great course idea or lesson

39:56idea for primary.

39:58>> Okay. So, if I if u if I ask a team

40:02commission, hey, since you see listed a

40:05lot of bunch of things that would be

40:07interesting topic, right? If you can

40:09propose something that library can

40:12library commission basically can

40:14recommend the library or county library

40:16or council to have some programs

40:19addressing especially the personal

40:21finance is a very interesting topic and

40:23there are a lot of events already happen

40:25here too in crypton library that is I

40:28think couple of nonprofits they have

40:29some courses kind of thing right it

40:31happens but uh if there is any specific

40:35teen commissions proposal that teens

40:38need part of library would be helpful

40:41then maybe that's a concrete outcome

40:43that we can plan

40:46>> also to uh add on to that um are there

40:50any um experiences where you didn't find

40:54a book or you didn't find a particular

40:57space in any room or any um any program

41:04which we could imple

41:08I think there's a great organizational

41:10system here, especially with like all

41:11the digital cataloges and stuff. It's

41:13never really follow like not like

41:15sometimes like obviously like the like

41:18the book that you want checked out, but

41:19that's not something that like I don't

41:20think that's a list.

41:22>> So, and that's and that not are the kids

41:25really still reading your printed books

41:27or you guys prefer to look at the screen

41:30or

41:31>> audio books or ebook?

41:33>> I prefer ebook.

41:34>> Okay.

41:35Okay.

41:38So I think so maybe that would be my

41:41proposal basically. I think um I don't

41:43know what is the procedure that we need

41:45to follow but if you think hey this

41:47these are the things that as a followup

41:50uh of this visit if you can come up with

41:52four or five items maybe uh each month

41:56one program maybe we can request if they

41:58can able to figure it out in that

42:01schedule right we have run you guys can

42:04be an ambassador for those programs

42:06passing to the schools

42:08>> and also periodically if you guys can

42:10come um visit us, give us suggestions

42:14that dictation.

42:16>> Yeah, we just scheduled for a yearly

42:19visit commissioners.

42:21>> Yeah. But but you can share this

42:24information with other team

42:25commissioners if you have any idea any

42:28new proposal even after this meeting you

42:30can just send email to library

42:33commission.

42:34Another idea we can do too is is you as

42:37commissioners can also go visit them and

42:39Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah to be who are

42:41interested to speak to the whole

42:43commission. Yeah.

42:44>> Yeah. Because bunch of programs they

42:46they asking can be can can be part of

42:49libraries events, right? And we can try

42:52to find out how we can uh address like

42:55uh I see that like college planning is

42:57one of the very hot topic for juniors

43:00and seniors, right? And that definitely

43:02going to be benefit and the same

43:04category like the middle schoolers

43:06obviously AI literacy and AI ethics is

43:08important topic for them because

43:09everyone is trying to use the AI but

43:11then again the prompt right the prompt

43:14is nothing but it's a it's a word is

43:17prompt is is an innovation of the way

43:20you asking are interacting right how do

43:23I ask different things in same question

43:25but different way of asking will give a

43:28different answers right Um so that's

43:31another uh good program that kids would

43:35benefit and I think like another thing

43:37is a gas right so is if we can because

43:40we are living in a hot place right if we

43:43can invite somebody is really already

43:45proven in the industry if for example if

43:48somebody from open or spacex giving a

43:51talk right would be an very attractive

43:54event

43:58>> that's the same uh platform that I I am

44:02trying to create from through C CLF um

44:06where a professional comes and a college

44:09counselor comes and speak about their

44:12experiences professional who is actually

44:15right now active in the field and that

44:18gives lot of insight. The two programs

44:21has already happened and the third is

44:23going to come. So if you get a chance do

44:26attend those because they are really

44:29informative. The college counselor gives

44:32the steps what to do if you want to uh

44:36go into that particular field what you

44:39need to do. The college counselor guides

44:41you that there. So it's very permitted.

44:45>> I just want to say I just want to

44:47respond to what Mr. Mr. Chandra said. Um

44:51he said we could have somebody from

44:52ChadBt or SpaceX probably come and

44:54present here. And I just want to say

44:56that's not that's not like crazy at all

44:58because we just had a cyber security

45:00event over there and one of the top um

45:03top people from PaloAls came and gave a

45:06presentation about AI how it's being

45:09used to scam people and for criminal

45:12networks and stuff. So I totally think

45:13it's possible and it's a weird idea.

45:15>> Yeah. Because my only thing is from last

45:19year to this year now we are completely

45:21changed our way of thinking is not

45:24writing or not thinking okay ask that's

45:26the tool right and I'm not bothered

45:28about if somebody thrown at me and very

45:31odd question or some science physics

45:33question still I can I have tool to

45:35figure it out right now it's very easy

45:38and from now when you guys go into

45:40college or after college the world would

45:42be different right it could be

45:44completely different like maybe a jobs

45:47opportunity skills that you need could

45:49be different. So library could be one

45:51place where start cultivating and

45:53somebody who's a visionary thinks about

45:55how the 2030 job market will be right

45:58like when you guys graduate. So could be

46:00an um yeah those kind of things can be

46:04forwardlooking progressive programs that

46:06we can recommend the library people. So

46:12>> uh I also had a question just uh what I

46:14heard earlier about the voting. Is there

46:17opportunities to pre-register a vote

46:19here uh for teens espec especially if

46:22it's a lot of people looking to get into

46:25uh work or they whatever they

46:28>> typically schools also has that

46:30pre-registration events right I no high

46:33school I saw that there is a event which

46:37senior seniors can register

46:39>> they had that was a whole

46:43so back in September we did have the

46:45league of women voters come visit

46:48because there is a national voter

46:49registration day.

46:50>> Yeah.

46:50>> And then on the California government

46:53bow site is the actual voter

46:55registration. So you can go in there and

46:56do the registration yourself.

47:01>> But I think for the deans when they

47:03visit the library it's easy for them to

47:05register. Maybe I think you can include

47:08maybe you can send out on proposal like

47:10all the other items right uh like the

47:12events that you are pl asking or

47:15suggesting. Right. And also the voting

47:18thing could be one of the line items we

47:20can discuss and then figure it out how

47:22it can be brokenly added in going

47:24forward.

47:24>> I think just honestly having a side out

47:26there is a QR code or something.

47:28>> That's what you have existing like the

47:31boat midterms like right here. It's like

47:33it's just when teens come here like oh

47:36pre-register vote. It's something they

47:37do right then, like now like go home and

47:40like

47:41>> Yeah. So maybe, you know, we we can put

47:44a flyer by the front door because there

47:47there should be a QR code a link to the

47:49online registration for the voter

47:52registration online. Maybe

47:54>> you can certainly look into it. Uh

47:56because we are an official voting

47:58registration site, there are some things

48:00about leaking the campost.

48:02>> So we have to follow up with that.

48:03>> Yeah.

48:05Okay.

48:08Okay. So, any other uh other last minute

48:11to ask for suggestions, recommendations?

48:14>> I just say thank you all for listening

48:16for what we are to say and really hope

48:19you take these into consideration. We'll

48:21definitely work with other commission

48:23members to send baby something more

48:24formal and concrete over which is horiz.

48:27>> Yeah.

48:27>> Thank you so much.

48:31>> Thank you.

48:32>> I really appreciate because the other

48:33future generations, right? So we need to

48:35make sure

48:36>> we listen to you.

48:37>> Yes.

48:41>> Freight.

48:44>> Thank you.

48:46>> Thank you.

48:50>> Okay. So the next item is Mino library

48:56aquarium and uh automated materials

48:59handling system tour.

49:02>> Yep. And thank you for showing us.

49:05>> Yeah, learned a lot.

49:08>> Very interested to work very

49:10interesting. Very interesting.

49:13>> Yeah. Um and and despite all the help

49:15that machine gives us, it does still

49:17take a lot of manpower to get those

49:19books back on the shelf as quickly as we

49:21can.

49:22>> It's very uh automatic. I'm used to work

49:25on stand for a East Asian library. We do

49:28not have this machine.

49:35Uh

49:37I our numbers change all the time but

49:40you know we house

49:46more than 60,000 items in this building.

49:49Uh and so I just the sheer scale

49:52everything

49:54means the necessary smaller libraries

49:56much easier to manage manpower alone.

50:00There's no way we could do what we do

50:01without it.

50:02>> Yeah.

50:06Okay. So, if there's no more questions,

50:09we just go to the next item. That's a

50:12monthly update reports.

50:16>> Yeah. Nearly the month reports.

50:18>> Oh, yeah. And after that, so that's

50:22stuff and the commission reports. Yeah.

50:26Um I just have a couple of amends to

50:28talk about. um that are how many within

50:30the parson and the city. Uh we have our

50:33hidden treasures event which is on

50:35Thursday October 22nd from 9:00 am to 2

50:37pm at the Kino Senior Center. Um on

50:42Saturday, October 24th, we have our

50:44Monster Mash event which is from 5 to

50:478:00 p.m. at the Kick Community Center.

50:49And then finally is the Certino

50:50Community Service Awards uh which is a a

50:53combo of the Crest Awards and the

50:55Commissioner Recognition Dinner. That's

50:57on Wednesday, October 28th at 6 PM. And

51:00I believe that the event is sold out.

51:03So, if you did not have a chance to

51:05register, uh you can reach out to me and

51:08I can see if there might still be room,

51:09but I don't know. Yes. Can you send me

51:12an email though? Okay. And I will

51:14forward it over and see if they can pick

51:16but uh I think

51:18>> I didn't read it because I may not.

51:20>> Do I register?

51:21>> You've registered.

51:22>> Oh my god. Yeah.

51:24>> And

51:24>> Okay. Yeah. Oh, Muhammad. Yeah.

51:28>> Okay. Good to know.

51:30>> Email me and I will see if there is any

51:32B. I cannot guarantee though at this

51:34point.

51:35>> It's on 28th

51:37>> on the Yeah. On Wednesday, October the

51:396th.

51:39>> Okay. [clears throat]

51:44>> One I don't know whether I ask other

51:47items it's based on a only or

51:50>> Oh. Uh is there any uh updates from

51:54commissioners

51:56this part?

51:57>> Okay. On that case right in that uh one

52:00ask is uh the restroom uh uh the napkin

52:04that uh pass papers right that's not

52:07coming out that's not seems not working

52:09right the men's restroom.

52:11>> Can we can we talk about those little

52:13things? They're not technically agenda

52:14item.

52:15>> Oh that's okay. Yeah that's [laughter]

52:19>> okay. which is just Yep.

52:21>> Okay.

52:21>> But you can report that out.

52:23>> Okay. Sure. I I Okay. I was about right

52:26as a individual and making sure it's

52:29because it's happening in the last four

52:31or five times.

52:34>> Okay. I attended the event of um library

52:38creme opening you know in that day I saw

52:41the I think also attended the event. Uh

52:44I saw the Cooper Library Foundation and

52:47a friend of library and then the donor

52:49you know they also up and introduce the

52:52history of the I think it's

52:56very um I learn a lot from the history

52:59of the amen.

53:02Yeah.

53:04Yeah.

53:06And uh

53:08I have some

53:10oh some update. So uh I I noticed some

53:15know of the newspaper was damaged last

53:18week and I reported to Bryant which

53:21newspaper

53:22>> the the newspaper on the shelf the

53:23Catino courier couer newspaper.

53:27>> Yeah it was damaged some page were

53:30someone turn turn turn turn turn turn

53:31turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn

53:31turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn

53:31turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn

53:31turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn

53:31turn turn turned it that way and I just

53:33uh Yeah. So I just asked Brian about the

53:36security camera and I learned now we

53:38only have a security camera as a front

53:40door but maybe long time ago city put

53:44some security camera inside but but now

53:47there's no more. Yeah, just some update

53:50I I I learned

53:52and looks like Yeah, because it it

53:55doesn't happen often for people damage

53:58the public books and the newspaper in

54:03public area. Well, we don't think it

54:06will happen often. So, uh I I won't

54:10propose to add more security camera just

54:12to share the information. So now we only

54:16have the one from door.

54:18>> They're they're currently only waiting

54:20at doors exits for the building. Um and

54:23that is specifically to address privacy.

54:26Um because uh the library is very

54:31protective of everyone's privacy and we

54:34don't want

54:36people to be unintention and recorded

54:39when they don't wish to be. Uh so we

54:41just do that much for building security.

54:44>> Okay. So uh and so that that means we

54:48never had uh security camera in public

54:52area or in the past maybe long time ago

54:55city have that.

54:57>> I don't know.

54:58>> Yeah. I don't know.

54:59>> But I know right now that

55:00>> Yeah. Yeah. Now there now I just

55:03confirmed. Yeah.

55:06Okay. Yeah. Is there any other update?

55:10If no update, we we need to discuss the

55:13future agenda setting.

55:16>> Uh yes, there was a document that was

55:17included in your packet you received

55:20that has our future agenda setting on

55:22it. Um the only thing that we have left

55:23to accomplish is to have our senior uh

55:26advisory board come and talk to us about

55:28senior services at the library. So our

55:30hope is to do that in December.

55:33>> Okay.

55:35Do you there's anything else you'd like

55:36to add to that? Do you have any proposal

55:39or maybe?

55:40>> Yeah.

55:42>> You've got one meeting left this year.

55:44>> So, uh, next meeting will be December

55:463rd.

55:47>> 2.

55:48>> Oh, December 2nd. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Cuz

55:50I'm u planning my trip. So, I need make

55:54sure. [laughter]

55:55>> Okay.

55:56>> Yeah. If you don't have any proposal

55:58today, if I think about anything, just

56:00feel free to send me email.

56:02>> Yeah. to your chair and that when we

56:05meet about the agenda we got it.

56:08>> Okay.

56:08>> Okay. Yeah. Sounds good.

56:11>> Okay. So,

56:14it's 8:13

56:17October 6 and I call the Catino Library

56:21Commission meeting to end.

56:23>> Yeah. Second.