2026-10-12 - City Council Study Session

00:14Good evening. Tonight we have several

00:17meetings and many of you are not here

00:19for the first one which is a public

00:21housing authority commission. It'll be

00:24short and then we'll move into the items

00:26that most of you are here for. So with

00:29that, I would like to call to order the

00:31public housing authority commission uh

00:34our regular meeting and would ask the

00:36clerk if you would please take the role.

00:38>> Chair Hartkey

00:39>> here.

00:40>> Vice Chair Cena

00:41>> here.

00:41>> Commissioner Poston

00:42>> here.

00:43>> Commissioner Ellis

00:44>> here.

00:44>> Commissioner Orlando

00:45>> here.

00:46>> Commissioner Harris

00:47>> here.

00:47>> Commissioner Hawkins

00:48>> here. Commissioner Lorine

00:51>> here.

00:51>> We have a quorum.

00:52>> Thank you. Do we have any unscheduled

00:55public appearances for the public

00:57housing authority meeting?

00:58>> We have not received any.

00:59>> Okay. Thank you. Uh the next and only

01:03other item on our agenda for the PAC

01:06meeting is is the consent agenda.

01:09Council, we had the chance to look at

01:11this earlier. How would you like to

01:13proceed?

01:15Commissioners,

01:19>> vice chair.

01:21>> Thank you. I move uh to approve the

01:23minutes um of the public housing

01:25authority commission

01:27of a regular meeting on August 10th,

01:292026

01:31items two and three.

01:33>> All right. Second.

01:35>> All right. Commissioner Ellis, we have a

01:37motion and a second. Any recusals?

01:40Seeing none, please take the vote.

01:44>> Vice Chair Cena,

01:45>> yes.

01:46>> Commissioner Poston,

01:48>> yes.

01:48>> Commissioner Ellis,

01:49>> yes. Commissioner Orlando,

01:51>> yes.

01:52>> Commissioner Harris,

01:53>> yes.

01:53>> Commissioner Hawkins,

01:54>> yes.

01:55>> Commissioner Lori,

01:56>> yes.

01:57>> And Chair Harky,

01:58>> yes.

01:59>> Motion carries unanimously.

02:00>> Thank you. That concludes the business

02:02of the Public Housing Authority

02:04Commission of October 12th.

02:11>> Thank you, Commissioner. Next on our

02:14agenda tonight is the regular meeting of

02:16the Chandler City Council of October

02:1912th. I would like to call this meeting

02:21to order. Clerk, please take the role.

02:23>> Mayor Herky

02:24>> here.

02:25>> Vice Mayor Inas

02:26>> here.

02:26>> Council member Poston

02:28>> here.

02:28>> Council member Ellis

02:29>> here.

02:30>> Council member Orlando

02:31>> here.

02:31>> Council member Harris

02:32>> here.

02:33>> Council member Hawkins

02:35>> here. [snorts] We have a quorum.

02:36>> Thank you so much. Tonight, our

02:39invocation will be led by Pastor Tim

02:42Clumps of the Family Bible Church and

02:44our pledge of allegiance by Vice Mayor

02:47Encus. Pastor, well, let's let's stand

02:50and pray. Lord God, we we thank you that

02:53we have the privilege to recognize that

02:56you are the supreme authority, but God,

02:59we also thank you that you've given us

03:00government. We thank you so much for our

03:02our federal government. We thank you for

03:04our state government. But right now, we

03:06just are so grateful for our city here

03:08and our city government. We pray for

03:09Mayor Hartkey and all the council

03:11members. We pray for our our officers,

03:14our police officers, our first

03:15responders. Lord, we pray for safety and

03:17and and for peace in our city, Lord. And

03:20I just pray that we would have the

03:22blessing of God as we think about you

03:24and we honor you and we put you first as

03:26we put you first in this meeting

03:28tonight. So, we just dedicate this

03:30meeting to you and our lives to you in

03:32Jesus name. Amen.

03:33>> Amen. Thank you pastor for being with us

03:35and for your words. Please join me in

03:37reciting the pledge of

03:38>> allegiance. Igiance to the flag of the

03:42United States of America and to the

03:44republic for it stands one nation under

03:48God indivisible

03:50andice for all.

03:55>> Thank you, Pastor Kim. Thank you, Vice

03:57Mayor.

03:59Next on our agenda is scheduled public

04:02appearances. And we've got quite a few

04:04exciting ones tonight. I would like to

04:07invite Council Member Harris to join me

04:09up front.

04:35And first is service recognitions. Like

04:38to call on our city manager, John

04:40Pandier, to lead us in these.

04:43>> Mayor and council, I'd like to ask

04:45Christie to come on down. And our first

04:46service recognition is for Sher Trinidad

04:49and 10 years of service.

05:02Good evening, Mayor and Council.

05:03Tonight, I have the privilege of

05:05recognizing Sher Trinidad. She has

05:07served the city in the accounting

05:08division since October of 2016. Her

05:11career began as an accounting specialist

05:12in accounts payable, where she was

05:14responsible for processing vendor

05:15invoices and auditing and proving

05:17purchasing cards or PE card reports.

05:20After just 10 months, she was promoted

05:21to a senior role where she currently

05:23serves as the team lead. Sherry

05:25maintains supplier records, issues

05:27checks and a payments, and also

05:29processes and distributes 1099 forms to

05:31suppliers at your end. Recently, she has

05:33been serving on multiple teams for the

05:35workday software implementation project

05:36where we thank her very much for her

05:38service on that along with all the rest

05:39of us. And outside of work, Sherry

05:41spends time with her two boys, Damian

05:43and Edward, who are in the audience back

05:45there, who she wants to come up for the

05:47picture.

05:49And they enjoy outdoor activities,

05:50traveling, and watching baseball. Love

05:52that she watches baseball. Sherry's a

05:55valued member of the accounts payable

05:56team, and we congratulate her on 10

05:58successful years and look forward to the

06:00next 10. Thank you, Sherry.

06:45Mayor and Council, our next service

06:47recognition is from the city clerk's

06:49office. Jennifer will be providing it

06:51for Ivan Enriquez for 15 years of

06:53service.

07:04All right. So, please congratulate Ivan

07:07Enriquez on 15 years of service with the

07:09city of Chandler. Ivan began his career

07:12in 2011 as an aid with the library. He

07:15[snorts] later worked in accounting

07:16before finding his way to the city

07:18clerk's office where he has spent the

07:20past six years as a city clerk

07:22specialist and passport agent.

07:25Throughout his career, Ivan has been

07:26known for his customer service and for

07:28bringing the fun to our department. From

07:31impromptu spirit weeks, Snoopy themed

07:33cubicle decor to our annual secret

07:36Santa, Ivan brings plenty of flare and

07:38personality to the clerk's office. One

07:41highlight of Ivan's passport career was

07:43providing services to the Arizona

07:45Cardinals before an international game.

07:48We'll give Ivan credit for getting them

07:49out of the country, but we won't hold

07:51him responsible for how they're playing

07:53on the field.

07:57Outside of work, Ivan teaches Zumba,

07:59loves cruises and trains, and is a huge

08:02Snoopy fan. In true Peanuts fashion,

08:05happiness is celebrating 15 years of

08:08service with the city of Chandler.

08:09Congrats, Ivan.

08:41May council.

08:48Next, I'd like our assistant director

08:50from development services, Stephen

08:52Turner, to come on down to recognized

08:54Christopher Gutierrez for 20 years of

08:56service.

09:07>> Chris began his career city of Chandler

09:09career in 2006 as a signing and striping

09:11technician. He continued serving

09:13Chandler as a street light technician

09:15beginning in 2018 and a traffic signal

09:17technician in 2022 before we convinced

09:20him to train inh trade in his bucket

09:22truck for the traffic management center

09:24as a traffic signal analyst in 2025. He

09:27is always patient and willing to help

09:29out a co-orker, resident or stranger,

09:31usually with a smile and a good laugh

09:33along the way. He brings the same

09:35attitude to the traffic management

09:36center where his experience, teamwork,

09:38and sense of humor helps keep things

09:40light even on stressful days. When he's

09:43not uh keeping Chandler moving, Chris is

09:45can usually be found cheering on his

09:46beloved Green Bay Packers.

09:51>> One last thing about Chris, usually if

09:53he shenan, he'll shenan again.

09:55Congratulations, Chris, and thank you

09:57for 20 years of service and dedication

09:58to

10:32Mayor and council, I've never stood

10:34behind this place before. I feel even

10:35shorter than normal. All right,

10:38>> I'd now like to ask Leah Powell to come

10:40on down.

10:50as we recognize her for 30 years of

10:53service. [cheering]

11:02>> Now, I generally don't like to read, but

11:04I need to do this justice. Leah deserves

11:06it. So, take yourself back to 1996.

11:09Chandler was a city of about 145,000

11:12people and a new recreation coordinator

11:14named Leah Paulo showed up to run youth

11:17programs for Chandler kids. 30 years

11:20later, the city has grown and frankly so

11:22is Leah's job duties. You see, the funny

11:25thing about Leah is she hasn't had one

11:27career, she's had seven. She was a

11:29recreation coordinator, senior

11:31management assistant, assistant to the

11:33city manager, Chandler's first diversity

11:36admin administrator, community resources

11:38and diversity manager, neighborhood

11:40resources director, and since August of

11:432025, deputy city manager.

11:51>> When Chandler decided it needed a

11:53diversity office, there wasn't one, so

11:55she built it. When she saw nonprofits,

11:58faith community, schools, and the city

12:00all working the same problems in

12:02separate rooms, she helped create for

12:04our city Chandler and put it all in one

12:06room. That model is now replicated

12:10across the state and gave us help. IHEL,

12:14I believe. IHelp. Yep. And then there's

12:17housing. Chandler had 303 public housing

12:20units built in 1972 and a repair bill

12:23Washington was never going to cover.

12:25Leah looked at it at that and didn't

12:27look back. She led us through the HUD

12:30RAD conversion, built the public private

12:32partnership, and stacked and oh, I'm

12:35having a hard time reading right now.

12:36And stack the financing until the math

12:38worked. This past June, we cut the

12:42ribbon on Villas on McQueen, 157

12:45affordable homes, and the largest

12:46expansion of public housing in the city

12:48in more than 50 years.

12:58Lee, I'm gonna look at you as I say this

13:00one. Haven on Hamilton is next.

13:03>> That's a $155 million um pipeline built

13:06one funding source at a time and every

13:08unit of it has somebody's name on the

13:11lease.

13:13A word on that. There's no federal

13:15funding acronym that Leah has not

13:17personally wrestled to the ground. CDBG,

13:20Home, ARP, RAD, and LIHTC

13:25>> and HUD. Outside the lines,

13:28she she chairs the board for the Arizona

13:31Center for Blind and Visually Impaired

13:33has led Sir Optimus of the Santans and

13:35Relay for Life. And my personal favorite

13:38line in her resume, served as the

13:40president of an Irish dance company,

13:44which if you know Leah says a lot,

13:46folks. All right.

13:4930 years, seven roles, one city

13:54>> and indeed only one Leah. She

13:57exemplifies the Chandler way. Please

14:00join me and my personal congratulations

14:03of Leah for 30 years of service, not

14:06retirement, folks. 30 years of service.

14:24Why not?

14:28>> Come on.

14:36[laughter]

14:37>> My window.

15:05city manager. Next, I believe we have a

15:07retirement recognition.

15:09Next up, I need John Septton to come on

15:11down. We to celebrate the retirement of

15:14Deborah Moreno.

15:25>> Today we are honored to recognize Debbie

15:27Marino who joined Chandler Public

15:29Library back in 1998. More than 25 years

15:33ago, she has been a steady force for our

15:35community. Debbie began as a library

15:37page, carefully tending the stacks and

15:40rose to become the library

15:41administrator, guiding the Sunset

15:43Library team with inspiration and

15:44dedication. Her service extended way

15:47beyond the branch walls. Debbie lent her

15:49leadership to the Chandler Education

15:50Coalition, Readon Chandler, and the

15:53Arizona Library Association, helping

15:55strengthen literacy and opportunity

15:57across our city. Her excellence earned

15:59her the community services employee of

16:01the year award as well as the first

16:03things first champion for young children

16:05honor for the south southoutheast

16:07maricopa region. Many of us remember the

16:10day that the strip mall explosion

16:12happened, shook sunset quite literally,

16:15and Debbie was there, calm, committed,

16:18and helping the day of and later

16:20ensuring that the repairs and guiding

16:22the branch back to the community that

16:25needed it so much. Debbie devoted

16:29Debbie's devotion to literacy, to

16:31families, and to Chandler itself will

16:34continue to echo far beyond her

16:36retirement. Her legacy is one of

16:38service, resilience, and heart. Debbie,

16:40thank you for everything. May your next

16:42adventures be as meaningful as the many

16:44years as you've shared with us.

16:46Congratulations on your retirement.

18:00All right. Next, we have a proclamation

18:02uh for every month in Chandler.

18:04>> We have one more service recogn Oh, I

18:06mean retirement.

18:07>> Oh, okay. I believe you.

18:11>> Next up, Don Lang is going to present.

18:13She's coming on down for a retirement

18:16for Randall Scott Rogers.

18:21[cheering]

18:26>> All right. After 12 years with Chandler

18:29in the environmental management

18:30division, Scott has become something of

18:32a storm water superhero minus the cape.

18:35Whether it is inspections, education, or

18:38keeping our storm water system running

18:39smoothly, Scott always showed up with

18:41dedication, knowhow, and that signature

18:44Roger smile. Scott also has an uncanny

18:48talent for being in exactly the right

18:51place, or maybe it's the wrong place, at

18:53the exactly the right time. Over the

18:55years, he's jumped in to help during

18:57accidents, rescued animals in trouble,

19:00and even pulled a cat out of an engine

19:02near City Hall. That lucky feline is now

19:05living the best life in the Rogers

19:06household. With a great sense of humor,

19:09endless stories, and kind words for

19:11everyone, Scott has brightened countless

19:13days across team Chandler. He and his

19:15wife Tracy, who's in our accounting

19:18division, and here this evening as well,

19:21uh make their home in Sun Lakes, where

19:24Scott enjoys working on his boat,

19:25relaxing on the water, and catching

19:27fish, presumably ones that don't require

19:30rescue. And now retirement means Scott

19:33gets to enjoy even more of what he

19:35loves. Between fishing trips and time on

19:37the golf course, he'll have two favorite

19:40pastimes to fill the days. Scott, thank

19:42you for your 12 years of service, your

19:45dedication, and the heart you brought to

19:46every part of your work. You've made a

19:49lasting impact on Chandler and on the

19:51people fortunate enough to work

19:53alongside you. We'll miss your humor,

19:56your stories, and that signature smile

19:58more than you know. Wishing you a

20:01retirement filled with great fishing,

20:03enjoyable sound rounds of golf, plenty

20:05of wildlife adventures, and all the time

20:07in the world to enjoy them. You

20:09certainly earned it.

20:56He's got a speech.

21:00>> Thank you, Mayor Council.

21:03I can't forget JP.

21:06He's my BFF,

21:08but after this poem, he may not be.

21:14I'm going to tell you all a story about

21:16a man named Scott. He ain't much to look

21:19at, but look at the wife he's got.

21:25I always dreamed of Arizona, the desert,

21:28sun and sky. Then one day, I saw a

21:31Chandler job posting and thought, "Hey,

21:33I should apply."

21:35So, I packed up my dreams and my dog,

21:38Forky, and headed out west and found out

21:42Chandler, Arizona, is truly the best.

21:45I've made so many friends here,

21:48wonderful and true.

21:51They've made my life special. For that,

21:54I say thank you.

21:56I won't be remembered for my

21:58accomplishments or for definitely not my

22:01pay,

22:02but for all of the animals I have

22:04rescued along the way.

22:07So wherever life takes me and whatever I

22:10find,

22:12I will never forget what Father Manassa

22:14told me. Always be kind. Thank you.

22:38You know, I would say keep your day job,

22:41but you've just retired.

22:43[laughter]

22:47>> All right. Do I have any more?

22:50>> Okay.

22:52Next, we have uh Proclamation Rotary

22:55Month in Chandler. If I could have

22:56Stephen Fair and and hey, why not all

22:59the rest of those Rotarians hanging out

23:01there in blue shirts. Sure,

23:05why not?

23:20>> All right. Is Terry Kimble, the honorary

23:23member, still in the audience?

23:26>> All right. Okay. Well, I've got a

23:29proclamation. then give you a chance to

23:31say some words.

23:33>> All right. Whereas

23:36the city of Chandler recognizes

23:38contributions of Rotary clubs whose

23:41members dedicate time, leadership, and

23:43resources to support local initiatives

23:46including youth development,

23:48scholarships, service projects, and

23:50humanitarian efforts that enhance

23:53residents quality of life. And whereas

23:56for decades, Rotary clubs have played an

23:59integral part in the community, bringing

24:01together volunteers, leaders, and

24:03residents to support and celebrate the

24:06city through service, collaboration, and

24:09shared commitment to improving lives of

24:11others. And whereas Rotary clubs in

24:14Chandler and Sun Lakes are celebrated or

24:17impactful service projects that

24:19strengthen the community, foster

24:22leadership, support education, and

24:24promote service above self, contributing

24:27to a thriving, connected, and

24:30forward-looking Chandler. And whereas

24:33Rotary clubs worldwide unite each

24:36October to raise awareness and mobilize

24:39resources in the effort to eradicate

24:42polio globally, demonstrating a shared

24:45commitment to improving public health

24:47and creating a healthier future for all.

24:50And whereas Rotary clubs in Chandler and

24:53Sunlakes unite volunteers and leaders in

24:57service who are committed to enhancing

24:59quality of life and leaving the

25:01community and world better than we found

25:04it. Now therefore, I Kevin Hartkkey,

25:07mayor of the city of Chandler, Arizona,

25:09do hereby proclaim October 2026 as

25:13celebration of Rotary Month in Chandler.

25:23Well, thank you, mayor and council. Um,

25:25this means a lot to us. Uh, Rotary

25:28started in Chandler in 1934,

25:31and we are going strong as ever. Um, I

25:35will say I'm going to need all of our

25:37Rotarians help here. Do we have fun?

25:40>> Do we do a lot of good work in the town?

25:44>> All right. And in every Rotary Club

25:46meeting, we ask ourselves four questions

25:48of the things we think, say, and do.

25:50First, is it the truth?

25:52>> Is it fair to all concerned?

25:54>> Will it build good and better

25:56friendships? And will it be to all

25:59concerned?

26:00>> And Scott, where are you? Scott. Scott.

26:04>> Oh, he ran out. Oh, we have an

26:07application for him. So, no, no, quite

26:10seriously. Um, if any of you are

26:12interested in joining Rotary, we're a

26:15fun loving group of people. We've got

26:16three clubs here. I'm in the Rotary Club

26:18of Sun Lakes. We've got the Rotary Club

26:21in uh downtown Chandler and then we've

26:23got Chandler Horizon. So, whenever you

26:25want to meet, we've got a club for you.

26:26Thank you.

26:34>> All right.

26:47All right.

26:49One, two, three.

26:53One, two, three.

27:09That's right.

27:10>> Thank you, Rotaries.

27:32>> All right. Our

27:35next proclamation is cyber security

27:38awareness month. Can I have our Chandler

27:41cyber security team come on up?

28:17Okay.

28:18Whereas the city of Chandler recognizes

28:21that cyber security plays a vital role

28:23in protecting city services businesses

28:26against technology threats. And whereas

28:29critical city services are reliant in

28:32defensible information systems and

28:34identities. And whereas cyber security

28:37awareness month is an opportunity to

28:39raise awareness about the importance of

28:42protecting our personal and

28:43organizational information against cyber

28:46threats as such as fishing, identity

28:49theft, ransomware, and financial loss.

28:53And whereas fostering a culture of cyber

28:56security awareness strengthens our

28:59community and helps residents,

29:01businesses, organizations navigate an

29:04increasingly digital world safely and

29:07securely. Now therefore, I not Kevin

29:10Harky, but I am his substitute today. I,

29:14Kevin Harky, mayor of the city of

29:16Chandler, Arizona, do hereby proclaim

29:19October 2026 as cyber security awareness

29:22month. Yay.

29:27>> Who would like to have some words?

29:32[clears throat]

29:33>> All right. Thank you everyone. Uh, with

29:34the little time I have here, I'll I'll

29:36start with gratitude. That's the most

29:37important thing. I want to thank uh the

29:39mayor and council who has supported us

29:41year and year. I want to uh thank the

29:43city managers. I want to thank legal

29:45clerk who has always helped us out and

29:47the city staff we work with every day to

29:49secure critical city services. However,

29:52I want to also remind us that a small

29:54team of six very formidable. However, we

29:57have a a larger community of people who

29:59are steering committee throughout the

30:01city to help affect change. That's quite

30:04formidable. However, the goal, the

30:06ultimate goal here is to have a city, a

30:08whole city that can defend itself when

30:10needed and defend it critical city

30:12services. Lastly, I want to thank all

30:14the residents and citizens who come to

30:16support every every week. And uh without

30:19you, we don't have a purpose and we

30:21don't have a city. So, I really

30:22appreciate that. Thank you.

30:24[applause]

30:30I'll be done.

30:57>> All right. Thank you all.

31:10All right, we've got one left.

31:13Like to recognize the Chandler Exchange

31:16Club as annually they give an award to

31:20Chand to a Chandler firefighter and

31:22Chandler police officer. So, could I

31:24have Mark Whitaker and any other um

31:28Exchange Club members to join us?

31:36So, every year the Chandler Exchange

31:38Club honors two of our exceptional

31:40Chandler first responders. I always am

31:43excited for this annual recognition. So,

31:46Mark, let me turn the microphone over to

31:49you.

31:51>> Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, city

31:52council. It's it's our honor to always u

31:56every October honor Chandler's first

31:59responders and to that extent my

32:01associate Tim Wittmann will read the

32:04information about each of the honores

32:06this evening.

32:07>> Thank you. Um first of all, mayor, we'd

32:09like to say thank you uh for giving us

32:11this time to honor the Chandler's first

32:13responder. If I uh first off, if our

32:16fire department um award nominee, if I

32:20could have Battalion Chief Bo Jenkins,

32:22please uh come down and uh we'll have an

32:25opportunity after we read your wonderful

32:28accomplishments to call your family down

32:31and uh get some picture taken. So, thank

32:33you. All right.

32:40Battalion Chief Jenkins exemplifies the

32:43highest standards of professionalism,

32:46service, and commitment, making him

32:49exceptionally deserving of this award.

32:52Beyond his daily responsibilities,

32:54Battalion Chief Jenkins has taken on the

32:57mantle of leading the Chandler

32:59firefighters charities. His leadership

33:02in this role has been remarkable as he

33:05has been instrumental in raising

33:07hundreds of thousands of dollars to

33:09benefit those in need. Battalion Chief

33:12Jenkins was also recognized by his peers

33:15as the Chandler Fire Department's 2025

33:18firefighter of the year. Battalion Chief

33:21Jenkins, for your exceptional efforts,

33:24we are pleased to present you with the

33:26Exchange Club of Chandler Firefighter of

33:29the Year Award. And

33:38and if you'd like to have your family

33:39come down, we'll take a quick picture.

34:46and our police department nominee. If I

34:48could have Officer Aaron O'Brien please

34:52come forward.

35:12Officer O'Brien serves as a member of

35:15the behavioral health unit, the BHU,

35:18where she regularly responds to crisis

35:21related calls for service involving

35:23individuals experiencing mental health

35:25and behavioral health challenges. Her

35:28ability to remain patient,

35:30compassionate, and professional during

35:32difficult, and often unpredictable

35:35situations allow her to build trust with

35:39individuals in crisis, their families,

35:42and the community. Officer O'Brien

35:45consistently demonstrates the importance

35:48of treating people with dignity while

35:50working to find appropriate resources

35:53and solution. In addition to her

35:56responsibilities within the PHU, Officer

35:59O'Brien provides training and education

36:02to Chandler Police Department employees,

36:05City of Chandler employees, and external

36:08partners.

36:11Officer O'Brien has also taken on the

36:13leadership role in the Chandler Police

36:15Department's peer support program. She

36:18has made herself consistently available

36:21to department employees and has averaged

36:23approximately 25 to 30 employee contacts

36:26each week. Officer O'Brien, for your

36:29dedicated service, we are pleased to

36:32present you with the Exchange Club of

36:34Chandler Police Officer of the Year

36:37Award.

37:48I would also like to take a moment to um

37:52say that the exchange club does a lot of

37:54different projects throughout the year

37:56here in the community and the next big

37:58one that we have coming up uh a lot of

38:00you folks may know on December 12th at

38:03the Valley of the Sun Cemetery we will

38:05be honoring our veterans. So if you can

38:08come out Saturday morning, December

38:0912th, we'd love to have you take part in

38:12honoring our veterans. Thank you very

38:15much.

38:43Council,

39:00next on our agenda is the consent agenda

39:03of the regular meeting of October 12,

39:052026.

39:07Uh, I believe a motion is in order. Who

39:09would like to make?

39:11Council member Poston.

39:13>> May there I move to approve the consent

39:15agenda of the October 12th, 2026 regular

39:17meeting items one through three.

39:20>> We have a motion. Is there a second?

39:21>> Second.

39:22>> Second by Vice Mayor Seen. Council,

39:25please vote.

39:26>> Mayor, we'll have to do a voice vote.

39:28>> Oh, that's right. Thank you.

39:29>> All right. So, Mayor Harky

39:31>> here. Yes. Both.

39:33>> Great.

39:34>> Vice Mayor Zenzas.

39:35>> Yes.

39:35>> Council member Poston.

39:37>> Yes.

39:37>> Council member Ellis.

39:39>> Yes.

39:39>> Council member Orlando. Yes.

39:41>> Council member Harris. Council member

39:43Hawkins.

39:43>> Yes.

39:44>> Motion carries unanimously.

39:46>> All right. And that concludes our our

39:50council meeting of October 12th.

39:55>> But wait, don't leave.

39:57We now have a steady session. I would

39:59like to call that meeting to order. And

40:01once again, clerk, please take the role.

40:03>> Mayor Harky

40:04>> here.

40:04>> Vice Mayor Cena

40:05>> here.

40:06>> Council member Poston

40:07>> here.

40:07>> Council member Ellis

40:08>> here. Council member Orlando

40:10>> here.

40:10>> Council member Harris

40:12>> here.

40:12>> Council member Hawkins

40:13>> here. We have a quorum.

40:15>> Very good.

40:18Um, council, we have quite a few items

40:23that have been

40:25called in here for tonight. Let me go to

40:29the looking at my pages here. I've

40:32gotten them out of order.

40:36There we go.

40:38First is item number three, resolution

40:41number 6042, Chandler Flex grant

40:45agreement. Uh has been called up for uh

40:49presentation by Jason Crarampton.

40:51Comment from council member Ellis.

40:54Jason.

40:55>> Hi, Mayor. Council

41:02have a brief presentation for you

41:04tonight. We're excited to be able to

41:05receive a $1 million grant to help

41:08assist with the operations and expansion

41:11of Chandler Flex. Chandler Flex is the

41:13city's on demand microtransit service

41:15that residents can request a ride using

41:17the Chandler Flex app or with this phone

41:19number. And our fleet of minivans will

41:21take residents anywhere they would like

41:23within the service area. Uh, I do want

41:25to point out the areas shown in yellow

41:27on this map are areas that we expanded

41:29into in 2024 and the grant we're

41:31discussing tonight greatly facilitated

41:34this expansion.

41:36A little more about the grant. Uh,

41:37Congressman Greg Stanton uh, championed

41:40this uh, the efforts in obtaining this

41:42$1 million grant. Uh, funds will be

41:45applied to expenses that we incurred

41:47last fiscal year as well as the current

41:49fiscal year. There is a 50% local match

41:52required. Um, which means that the city

41:56will have to contribute at least as many

41:58dollars as we utilize in federal funding

42:01each fiscal year, which is not a uh

42:04problem because we have budgeted and do

42:06plan for uh more than that in local

42:08expenses already. So, there are no new

42:11local dollars required by accepting this

42:13grant. Um, just a few key stats about

42:15Chandler Flex. We've completed nearly

42:18200,000 rides since service began in

42:202022 to 6,300 different individuals um

42:23who provide a ride rating of 4.9 stars

42:27out of five. And with that, I'd be happy

42:29to take any questions.

42:30>> Council member Ellis.

42:32>> Thank you, Mayor. I wanted to call this

42:34in so that the community will know what

42:38efforts that your team you're putting

42:41behind the flex. We see those vans all

42:44over the place. They're moving the

42:46students to school. They're moving the

42:48elderly people. There's not a time that

42:50someone in the community, they don't

42:52stop me and say, "Thank you so much

42:54because Flex takes me to my doctor's

42:55appointment." So, I wanted to thank you

42:57on behalf of the constituents for this

42:59effort. I know when we first started

43:01this and we wanted it to be just a pilot

43:03and look at where we are right now. The

43:05only thing people are asking is how much

43:07more can we enlarge our borders and more

43:10more territories so people can actually

43:12enjoy it more. The question also that I

43:14have, you probably just answered it.

43:16When we received that grant uh from uh

43:19Congressman Stanton, and by the way,

43:21thank you to Congressman Stanton.

43:22There's not a time mayor and council

43:24have engaged him in Washington DC

43:26concerning Chandler, whether it's water,

43:28whether now it's transportation. He

43:30allows us to do what we do best here in

43:32Chandler with the federal dollars. The

43:34things that we want to do, not what they

43:37want us to do. What's best for our

43:39constituent is what we put that money

43:41toward. So you explain u the fact that

43:44that grant is a match and then the

43:47taxpayers money that from the city of

43:50Chandler is going to line up with it.

43:52Can you go more a little bit more in

43:54detail? I know you high level it a

43:55little bit.

43:57>> Um yeah uh council member Ellis

43:59appreciate that. Thank you for the

44:01question. So uh yeah we we received $1

44:03million with this grant and and we can

44:05spread it over last fiscal year and this

44:07fiscal year. So, all the expenses that

44:08the city incurred last fiscal year,

44:11we'll be able to recoup u nearly nearly

44:13$500,000 of those expenses. Um,

44:16additionally, I mentioned that we were

44:17able to expand service in 2024 thanks in

44:21large part to this grant. We were

44:22actually able to do that a little bit

44:24early uh because we were able to

44:26leverage some one-time regional funding

44:29that covered us that carried us through

44:31a couple of years until this grant is in

44:33place. Uh but this grant really got us

44:35started on those initiatives to to do

44:37that expansion. So So yeah, it'll

44:39reimburse last fiscal year and then

44:41it'll it'll reimburse about $500,000

44:43worth of expenses in the current fiscal

44:45year, too. So saving the city a million

44:48dollars total.

44:49>> That's awesome. Thank you so much for

44:50everything you guys do. Please let your

44:52team know that. I really appreciate it.

44:53And then to Congressman Stanton, we

44:56might need another million.

44:58>> Thank you so much.

44:59>> Thank you.

45:00>> Council member Belinda, you had a

45:02question. Hi Jason, thank you. Good

45:04presentation here. Um, hey, I got a

45:06question for you. In the actual

45:08agreement between Phoenix and Chandler,

45:10it says $250,000 match. Is that per

45:14[clears throat] year? Is that where you

45:15get the half half million dollars?

45:17>> Uh, yes. Council through the mayor,

45:20Council Orlando. Um

45:22the the $250,000

45:25match is is the the minimum, but since

45:28this is a uh retroactive grant, we're

45:32we're seeking reimbursement from prior

45:34years the way that we had set it up last

45:36fiscal year was a uh a 50% local match.

45:39So we'll we'll continue that this fiscal

45:41year. uh if if for some reason we reduce

45:44Chandler flex and don't end up spending

45:46as much as as uh as planned as that

45:4959,000 for 2627 we we can adjust and

45:53utilize that lower rate of a local match

45:55if need be.

45:56>> Okay. So that's where the disconnect was

45:59495 versus 250 is what I'm saying.

46:01>> Okay. Got it. Thank you for clarifying

46:03that. Appreciate it.

46:03>> Thank you.

46:04>> Please don't reduce.

46:05>> Any other questions? All right. Thank

46:08you, Jason.

46:09>> Thank you. Next up, uh, called in is

46:11item number five, resolution number

46:146041, authorizing the city to accept

46:17land and water conservation fund grant

46:20fund for [clears throat] Puma Park

46:22Playground. This has been called in by

46:24Vice Mayor Cena John Septton.

46:26>> Thank you, Mayor, members of council.

46:28What an honor it is. While it's not the

46:30million dollars that Jason brought, it's

46:32$750,000

46:34to towards the Puma Park playground.

46:36Now, since picture's worth a thousand

46:39words, I got a little video for you.

46:42Hopefully, it'll play right.

46:53Maybe it won't.

46:57Maybe it's too big.

47:01Came apart.

47:13So, it hid from me.

47:16All right. So, Puma Park. So, really fun

47:19fact. Uh, this is going to give you a

47:20little look around. Those are not our

47:22trees. It's all a video uh makeup here,

47:24if you will. Miracle Playground has done

47:27a wonderful job. It was about last

47:28summer, end of June, that we actually

47:31were able to h hold a design cheret with

47:34the members of our camp challenge. That

47:36is our special needs camp that we have

47:38out in the community. They helped us

47:40design what would be a wonderful

47:41playground. Uh Miracle Playgrounds has

47:44been on the forefront of designing and

47:46developing and implementing adaptive and

47:49accessible playgrounds across the

47:51country. We're honored to uh partner

47:53with them on this project. And uh again

47:56little bit of a visionary here. Uh the

47:59different types of elements a lot on the

48:01ground which would be fully accessible.

48:04A lot of the ramps are fully uh

48:06wheelchair or other you other use other

48:09adaptive use uh accessible. The swing

48:12sets have high back as well as the front

48:15facing uh to where a a partner or a

48:18caretaker can swing with them. You saw

48:20the spinner uh as a way that molds. So

48:23those that with might not have core

48:25strength. Uh that's one of those areas.

48:28That little square down there, the

48:29bright one you can see right there, that

48:31is actually a communications board. And

48:34a communications board can help us for

48:35th with those that have uh might not be

48:38verbal. So the design and the intent is

48:40really to put a focus on our puma park.

48:43Uh and this uh match, the $750,000, it

48:46is a one forone match. We have um

48:48approval through the budget process and

48:50our CIP program uh to accommodate all of

48:53the funding aspects.

48:55Interesting fact that the Landwater

48:56Conservation Fund actually helped us buy

48:58Puma Park. I have a letter from 1976

49:01February uh that we received uh a

49:04whopping $25,000

49:07uh so we could buy parks back then for

49:08$25,000. But things are are way more

49:11expensive. With that, I'm happy to

49:13respond to any questions.

49:15>> Question.

49:16>> Thank you, John. Uh, I just really

49:18wanted to highlight this project. I know

49:20we're talking about the grants, which is

49:21uh amazing that we're getting some help

49:23with that funding there. But I did want

49:24to thank you for bringing this uh visual

49:26so we can actually see this park

49:28improvement. Um, I know this park is

49:29it's been a long overdue and I just

49:32wanted to share and highlight the the

49:34new look of what's going to be coming

49:35here. I know that our staff when we're

49:38looking at improvements, we're looking

49:39to increase quality of life of all of

49:40our residents here. And with Chandler

49:43being one of our certified autism

49:45centers here, I wanted to make sure that

49:47we had those elements incorporated. But

49:48I saw the communication boards, I saw

49:50the sensory spaces and one of the

49:52biggest things that I hear from parents

49:53all the time and residents is they're

49:55looking for gated parks and you do have

49:57some fencing there which is great so

49:58everyone can feel safer there. So um I

50:01had a couple questions but you answered

50:03everything in in your presentation here

50:05tonight. So I just wanted to highlight

50:06this and make sure that our residents

50:08look forward to Pum Park again. When is

50:09it going to be potentially ready to go?

50:12Are we looking spring or

50:14>> Excellent question, mayor, vice mayor.

50:17Uh we're looking to as soon as we get

50:19the approval for this, we tight tidy up

50:21the buttons, if you will, for the uh

50:23budget process and then we'll be before

50:25you again with a contract for the

50:26installation. So, we might be a couple

50:28of months for that, but our goal is to

50:30kick it off as quickly as we can, maybe

50:32by fall next year, uh or sooner if we

50:34can get all the gears going in the right

50:36direction. Thank we

50:38>> certainly want to recognize Kurt Hoffman

50:40and Corey Povar for their excellent work

50:42in navigating the grant process which is

50:44federal. Uh the National Park Service

50:46folks I'll have to do this approval that

50:48actually built in some extra time for us

50:50but uh definitely is a need uh

50:53definitely been part of the visionary

50:54process from our our parks master plan

50:57and this is going to be an exciting

50:58project and it'll be a lot more to come

51:00and a lot more public exposure for it.

51:02>> Awesome. We're excited. We look forward

51:03to it. So thank you so much for your

51:04work and your department's work.

51:05>> Thank you. Any additional questions for

51:08John on this one? Seeing none, John,

51:11don't go anywhere.

51:12>> I'm I'm right here, sir.

51:14>> Next one called in was for me. Item

51:17number six, professional service

51:18agreement with Kimley Horn and

51:21Associates, Inc. for the Holey Park and

51:23Pool renovation master plan design

51:26services. So, love to see kind of

51:28briefly what will this do, the elements,

51:30and then give us a timeline.

51:32>> Excellent. Thank you, mayor. Uh, this is

51:33a really the kickoff. So you see this

51:36small number of $159,000. This is to

51:39design the master plan. This really

51:41helps us set the vision. This has had

51:44been a longtime visionary project from

51:46our parks master plan that was adopted

51:47by council back in 2021. Uh we've now

51:50got the dollars and cents put together

51:52for us to take this project to the next

51:54level. And we feel it very important

51:56that we take the steps to check back

51:58with the community to make sure that

51:59we're building and designing the right

52:01things. Uh we know that in our downtown

52:04area we've had approximately 1,200 new

52:06development units in our downtown. We've

52:09got a lot of multifamily that are are in

52:11place both being built underway under

52:13entitlement or in the works. This is

52:16this project will help us expand and

52:18meet the needs for for the aquatic uh

52:20programming as well as final

52:23enhancements for our Foley Park. So, we

52:25envision a at this point uh and

52:28certainly want to do a check-in, but we

52:30envision a competitive pool, a pool for

52:33lap swimmers, uh everything from uh

52:36master swimming to our swim teams. We

52:38have such an impacted demand for the

52:41lanes for the high school swimmers as

52:43well as the uh recreational swim teams

52:46that are within our community. We have

52:48good pools now, but they're simply the

52:50demand is so much greater. We know that

52:53by adding all of these residential uh in

52:56residences within the community that

52:58we're going to have additional demand as

53:00well. So that as well as the play area

53:03that places that place for us to be able

53:06to uh offer swim lessons to offer that

53:10exposure to the kids. Uh we partner

53:13extremely well with ICAN. We partner

53:15with the Boys and Girls Club. We partner

53:17with our partners over in in housing and

53:19development where they can work with

53:21their uh constituents to uh utilize our

53:24swimming pool. Foley is the smallest of

53:28our pools. We've got it's a 25 yard with

53:30a a three a couple of diving boards and

53:33we operate it for six weeks during the

53:36summer for public swim and we put

53:38through still about 1,900 visitors this

53:40past summer uh and a number of swim

53:42lessons as well. So, we've maximized

53:44that use, but this visioning is really

53:47to touch base with the community. Uh,

53:49Kimley Horn uh our fabulous partners on

53:52a number of different projects that

53:53we've had throughout the parks and

53:55recreation, but also the city. They know

53:57us and we're excited to have them as the

53:59lead designers on this project.

54:02>> And John, will it be the basic footprint

54:05or is that to be decided? You'd

54:06mentioned I I've done a lot of laps

54:08there in the past. Is it still going to

54:10be that size or is that part of the

54:12public discussion?

54:14>> As long as my vision is not exceeding of

54:16the budget, sir, I want a 50 meter pool

54:20so that we can do those lanes and have

54:22and meet the demand. Like you said, it's

54:25the laps and I think about this being

54:27our downtown pool. Uh the the lap pool,

54:30the swim, the the the recreational swim

54:32team that we have launched over the past

54:34couple of of summers has just gone

54:36through the roof. They really enjoy the

54:39competitive nature on the recreational

54:41side, but we envision that as well as a

54:43play pool. So, let's think about some

54:46like an arrowhead uh with that length of

54:48a pool uh really gives us the capacity.

54:51And then also over at uh Mosqu Groves,

54:54the play pool uh that type of

54:56environment to where we have the slides

54:58and the shallow shallow entry and the

55:01you know the play features within that

55:03pool area will really change the

55:05dynamic. And I think it's really

55:06important to understand that that our

55:08neighborhood is changing and we want to

55:10be able to meet that demand and make

55:12sure that we're providing exactly what

55:14our residents care for.

55:16>> Thank you, John. Any additional

55:17questions for me?

55:20>> All right. Thank you, sir.

55:21>> Thank you.

55:21>> All right. Now you can go.

55:25Next item called in is item number 10,

55:27introduction and tenative adoption of

55:29ordinance number 5179,

55:32reszone revamp office number two and

55:36number three council member Orlando.

55:43>> Hey Michaela.

55:46>> Hi. How are you today?

55:48>> We spoke earlier today a little bit

55:49about this project. Um just the a couple

55:53quick questions. Again, I'm I'm for this

55:55project. We need more of these projects.

55:57Um the capacity issue was something we

56:00talked about earlier, the permit process

56:03and the compliance. So, who does that?

56:07Pretty sure that happened.

56:08>> The mayor, council member Orlando. Um

56:11the compliance is through the division

56:14of devel developmental disabilities with

56:17the ar Arizona department of health.

56:22>> Okay.

56:24And are they respons and what is the

56:26capacity? I think it was nine you say?

56:28>> Yes. So there will be nine clients at

56:31this site maximum.

56:32>> Okay. And then six

56:34>> and six employees.

56:36>> Perfect. Okay. And then they have to

56:38[clears throat] go through an annual

56:39process with the state to get their

56:41permit, licensing, that type of stuff,

56:43right?

56:43>> Correct. They are inspected annually.

56:46>> Okay, great. I'd appreciate Thank you

56:47for following up. I know you didn't have

56:49the answers today, otherwise would have

56:51gotten it earlier, but thank you.

56:53>> Thank you. Thanks, Mayor.

56:55>> Yes, mayor. Real quick, can you recap on

56:58the population, please?

57:00>> The the age group of the population and

57:02the license holder, what kind of license

57:04they will be having?

57:06They will be um the population is from

57:10kids to adults and it covers um anyone

57:13with a developmental disability. Um so

57:16they are under a DDD license which is

57:18that developmental disable control.

57:21Thank you so much. Once DDD is involved,

57:23we know it's good.

57:24>> Thank you.

57:26>> Seeing no additional. Thank you again.

57:29Next item called in item number 15,

57:32preliminary development plan, Desert

57:35Palms. Council member Orlando and Alicia

57:38Peterson.

57:44>> Another great project, Alicia. Thank

57:46you.

57:47>> My pleasure.

57:56>> Okay. Good evening council, mayor and

57:59council. Um I can run give you a very

58:02brief presentation of uh the request.

58:09Okay. So the case before you is PL250018

58:12Desert Palms. Um this particular request

58:15is for a preliminary development plan

58:17approval for site layout and building

58:19architecture. Um this is approval for

58:22new pad buildings at an existing

58:23shopping center comprised of three quick

58:26serve um restaurants or drive-thrus and

58:29a shops building on three parcels. Um a

58:32little relevant uh site history. Um this

58:36is a shopping center with kind of a long

58:38uh history. In 1983, the original zoning

58:42was amended to allow the village shops.

58:44You can see those fronting onto Warner

58:46Road. um kind of highlighted as as the

58:49five brown buildings at that location.

58:51And following that, in 1987, the site

58:54was amended or the zoning was amended to

58:56allow general commercial across the

58:58center. Those being the shops

59:00highlighted yellow and blue.

59:03Uh you can see here uh an aerial site

59:05image from 2013 shows that village shops

59:09uh development right there along Warner

59:11Road. and then uh an aerial from 2025

59:15showing what that center has looked like

59:18for those many years uh after the

59:20village shops was demolished.

59:22So the proposed site plan again is

59:24proposing those three um quick serve uh

59:27restaurants and drive-throughs out right

59:29along the front uh frontage uh facing

59:31out onto Warner and on the school road.

59:34Um because that use was already that was

59:37use that had been approved previously

59:39but that proposed use is allowed by

59:41right

59:43I'm happy to answer any questions. May

59:45house.

59:46>> Yeah, I appre I'm sorry, mayor. Thank

59:48you. Yeah, again, there's a great

59:50project. There's a great investment in

59:52that area. That's the type of stuff we

59:54want to see

59:55>> uh to revive some of these corners. Um

59:59the I [clears throat] know there's

1:00:01discussion about two pad limitation.

1:00:03>> Yes.

1:00:03>> And I think there's extenduating

1:00:05circumstances why we really don't need

1:00:08to adhere to that. Particularly, it

1:00:09looks like less footage than it was

1:00:11before.

1:00:12Yes, that's correct. Through the mayor,

1:00:14um council member Orlando, um the

1:00:16previous approval was for those five PAD

1:00:18buildings. Um because this was less than

1:00:21five at uh four proposed pad buildings,

1:00:23it was considerable

1:00:25>> and we're okay with the egress and uh

1:00:28egress uh trafficking in that area. Uh

1:00:32yes, through the mayor, council member

1:00:34Orlando. Um we worked with our traffic

1:00:36division to make sure um we did receive

1:00:38a traffic study um and it has been

1:00:41approved um by our uh traffic division.

1:00:43So that's been looked at um to make sure

1:00:45that there will be no conflicts backing

1:00:47out onto those arterials.

1:00:49>> Yeah. One final comment, mayor, council,

1:00:51this is another project where

1:00:54[clears throat] doesn't have to be

1:00:55multif family. we could look at these

1:00:58projects, make them work uh good good

1:01:01clientele in there, plus be restaurants

1:01:04and other areas to revitalize that that

1:01:06corner. So, it's exciting to see this.

1:01:08Not there's something wrong with f

1:01:10multifamily or even living, but again,

1:01:12we could do other things with these

1:01:14corners. So, looking forward to more of

1:01:15these. So, thank you.

1:01:17>> Thank you so much.

1:01:18>> Thanks, mayor. Thank you, council

1:01:19member. Any other questions?

1:01:21>> I have a question.

1:01:24just wanted now that we established that

1:01:26this is good for this area and

1:01:27everything. I just wanted because I had

1:01:29a little talk with Micah that morning

1:01:31after I took a look at the project, the

1:01:33economic impact of this with the retail

1:01:36and everything. Micah, can you talk a

1:01:37little bit about that?

1:01:44through the mayor. Council member Ellis,

1:01:46uh, quick service drive-throughs have

1:01:48become an increasingly important part of

1:01:50our economy. Changing consumer spending

1:01:53habits are really driving, no pun

1:01:54intended, people to stay in their cars.

1:01:56>> And so providing these additional

1:01:58options, each one of these um, quick

1:02:00service pads generates pretty

1:02:02significant sales tax collection on

1:02:04people going to work, coming home from

1:02:06work, and just generally shopping in the

1:02:08area. So without knowing the the

1:02:11specific users at the end of them, they

1:02:12they will have a positive sales tax

1:02:15revenue for ongoing in addition to the

1:02:17one-time construction sales tax

1:02:19spending.

1:02:20>> Thank you, Mike. I appreciate that.

1:02:21Thank you, Mayor.

1:02:22>> All right. Thank you. Uh thank you, Mr.

1:02:24Bull, for bringing this project for your

1:02:27client as well. Next item up is um item

1:02:32number 28. And council member Harris I

1:02:36think what was your plan intention for

1:02:38this?

1:02:39>> Yeah I just want to move it to action

1:02:41for Thursday.

1:02:42>> So Thursday we will not have a

1:02:44discussion then tonight Thursday item

1:02:46number 28 will be on action.

1:02:49Okay. Item number 34 and 35 construction

1:02:53manager at risk Seymour construction

1:02:56service agreements for the water

1:02:58reclamation facility improvements phase

1:03:00three. This has been question has been

1:03:03brought in for a request for

1:03:05presentation by council members Hawkins,

1:03:08Ellis, and Orlando. Jeremy Abbott.

1:03:13Thank you, Mayor, Council, Council

1:03:15Member Ellis. Um,

1:03:18appreciate the opportunity to talk about

1:03:20a very important project to us and that

1:03:22is the improvements to two of our water

1:03:25reclamation facilities. So in general

1:03:28this is a uh considerable investment. Um

1:03:32these projects uh support and and point

1:03:36out the need for utility rate increases.

1:03:39Uh this project is is going to focus on

1:03:43our airport water reclamation facility

1:03:45as well as our octio water reclamation

1:03:47facility. Primarily our our airport

1:03:50water reclamation facility uh is is

1:03:53where the majority of the investment is

1:03:55being made. Prior phases one and two

1:03:58were focused on OARF but these plants

1:04:00are aging and AWARF is was built in 1998

1:04:04so it's approaching 30 years of age

1:04:07and in today's dollars if we were to say

1:04:10build this plant from scratch it would

1:04:11exceed over a billion dollars to build

1:04:13it from new.

1:04:16So, some of the things that we're going

1:04:17to be focusing on with this rehab

1:04:19project that I wanted to point out is a

1:04:22a replacement of our diffuser system.

1:04:26And so, if you can paint the picture,

1:04:28you know, the the water reclamation

1:04:30process is very biologically driven. And

1:04:33so these diffusers are the pipes and and

1:04:36components that push air into the

1:04:39treatment plant that oxygenate and and

1:04:42provide oxygen to the bugs that that do

1:04:44all the work for us. So that process is

1:04:47being uh uh rehab as well as headworks

1:04:51improvements. We're making improvements

1:04:53to our odor scrubber. Uh we're adding

1:04:56another filtration, a disc filter. There

1:04:59are currently five within the entire

1:05:01treatment plant. This adds a sixth one.

1:05:04That filter was always planned. There's

1:05:06a space for it. We're just adding all

1:05:08the components, the internal guts, if

1:05:11you will, of that filter to ensure that

1:05:13we can meet our A permit and and and

1:05:16provide high plus A+ quality reclaimed

1:05:20water. So again, you know, all of these

1:05:23components are are very important in the

1:05:25treatment process of our wastewater and

1:05:29and they're aging. This project actually

1:05:32spans over three years. So it it's a

1:05:35very long project and we are working on

1:05:39approximately half of the plant. So

1:05:42we'll be able to and we're doing this

1:05:44strategically. It allows us to take

1:05:45portions offline while we rehab those

1:05:49during lowflow periods, seasonal periods

1:05:52of time uh before they actual before

1:05:55they actually fail.

1:05:57So in summary that that covers uh the

1:06:00construction piece. Uh the companion

1:06:02component item number 35 is a

1:06:05construction management professional

1:06:07services contract which is just shy of 5

1:06:10million or or uh like 9 and 3/4% of the

1:06:15total construction cost. And again

1:06:17that's a large contract value. But again

1:06:20this is a $50 million project we're

1:06:22talking about. And that requires a a

1:06:25huge team of of professional engineers,

1:06:27inspectors, and staff to help us manage

1:06:31all this work over that three-year

1:06:32period of time.

1:06:36Just again to kind of give it

1:06:37perspective, uh this $5 million contract

1:06:41um allows a team of of up to about 34

1:06:44professionals over that period help us

1:06:47oversee this work. and and our CIP

1:06:50division alone is only 24 total team

1:06:53members. So, this is a very large team

1:06:55we're bringing in to help us manage all

1:06:57this work.

1:06:59And again, complexity and scale is is

1:07:01really important. uh the the the plan

1:07:04set and I I brought some just exhibits.

1:07:06You know, for every pump and motor and

1:07:10piece of pipe that that goes into the

1:07:12ground, we have to review submittals and

1:07:15ensure that they meet the technical

1:07:16specifications of that design. Again, at

1:07:20the end of the day, that the goal is to

1:07:22ensure that the end product is what we

1:07:25designed and what we're paying for, and

1:07:27that it meets the uh regulatory

1:07:29requirements of our A to ensure we can

1:07:31still send out and provide that

1:07:34reclaimed water to all of our customers.

1:07:38So, again, this is a three-year project.

1:07:40Um, it's a large investment, but it's

1:07:43important to Chandler. can't operate on

1:07:45a day-to-day basis without the ability

1:07:47to treat this waste water. So that I'd

1:07:50be happy to answer any other questions.

1:07:52>> Council member Hopkins, do you have any

1:07:53questions?

1:07:55>> Thank you, Jeremy, for the presentation.

1:07:57I don't have any questions. I mostly

1:07:59just wanted to emphasize with the large

1:08:00dollar tag. Uh what that means, right?

1:08:03Um people see the pass through costs

1:08:06that come down to them eventually, but I

1:08:07feel it's important to share um the

1:08:10reasons why, right? the infrastructure

1:08:12costs, all of those things, the

1:08:14chemicals, everything boils down to it's

1:08:15just the inflation that's hitting

1:08:16everybody. Um, so I just wanted to make

1:08:18sure that we shared that message that

1:08:20um, we keep the transparency there, the

1:08:22communication open, and if people have

1:08:23questions about things that they can

1:08:24come to us. Thank you,

1:08:26>> Councilman Brooks.

1:08:27>> Yeah, thank you Jeremy. The reason why I

1:08:29wanted to talk to you about this is the

1:08:315 million that we have to pay for

1:08:33consultant to the team that we hire

1:08:37actually to do the work. Um my concern

1:08:40is that is there a conflict of interest

1:08:42right because we are paying them 50

1:08:44million and then we paying them another

1:08:45five million they hire that team to

1:08:48oversee their own work uh what is it

1:08:51that you have in there or your team you

1:08:53just told the capacity is not there you

1:08:56just told me you don't have the capacity

1:08:58to manage that company while they build

1:09:01this thing and you want it to be done

1:09:02from the ground up. We don't want to

1:09:04wait until something happened in the

1:09:06middle of it and then that's when we're

1:09:07going to grapple back. So having a

1:09:09consulting group on board, I can

1:09:11understand that. But my concern is

1:09:13having the same company provide us that

1:09:18covering or that oversight that we need

1:09:21for them to do a good job. Number one.

1:09:23Number two, you talk. I'll just give

1:09:25them to you all at once and you can

1:09:27answer them. And the other one, if Norah

1:09:29was here, he would be so happy to hear

1:09:30that you're gonna clean that smell

1:09:32because he's in here constantly telling

1:09:34us, "Get the smell out of Chandler, and

1:09:37this will do it." So, for that matter, I

1:09:39I think it's a worthy cause when it

1:09:41comes to this project. 1998 is not

1:09:44yesterday. We've been getting water out

1:09:46of this thing every single day. There's

1:09:48not a day that I opened my faucet, I

1:09:50didn't have good water coming out of it.

1:09:52So, it is needed. and and so therefore I

1:09:55want to commend you for that for

1:09:56sticking with the CIP. I remember when I

1:09:58was on the um public works group for us

1:10:02to go for the bond for this uh time for

1:10:05us to have the money to do this project.

1:10:07We were thinking that you know we could

1:10:09actually hold it for a while but now we

1:10:11can't because of the time frame. So,

1:10:14thank you again for sticking with it and

1:10:16we want to push it through, but give me

1:10:18a pretty good understanding why we

1:10:21letting this company hire their own team

1:10:23to beside them.

1:10:25>> Through the mayor, council member Ellis.

1:10:27So, so for clarification, the

1:10:29construction award, the 50.8 million to

1:10:32McCarthy, that is to our construction

1:10:34manager at risk. They are the company

1:10:36that's going to facilitate the rehab and

1:10:39the construction work. uh the

1:10:42professional services contract which is

1:10:45item number 35. Yeah. That that that

1:10:48contract award is to Wilson Engineers.

1:10:50Excellent. Who is our professional

1:10:52services team? So there is no conflict.

1:10:54These are two different organizations

1:10:56and we we hire and select both of those

1:10:59individually.

1:11:00>> Individual. Good. Thank you so much.

1:11:02because somehow somewhere there was a a

1:11:05um overlap understanding that it was the

1:11:08same company who's going to hire these

1:11:10people to oversee their work. So I

1:11:12wanted to make sure publicly we

1:11:14acknowledge the fact that that was not

1:11:15the case.

1:11:16>> Absolutely.

1:11:16>> So thank you Jeremy. Appreciate it.

1:11:18>> Thank you mayor.

1:11:19>> Mayor Council Member Orlando.

1:11:22>> Thank you. I think uh council member

1:11:23Ellison Hawkins emphasize what we're

1:11:26doing here. Um,

1:11:29we didn't talk about if we don't do

1:11:30this,

1:11:33what happens

1:11:34>> through the mayor, council member

1:11:36Orlando, if if we don't take care of our

1:11:39facilities and we don't make these

1:11:40repairs and these replacements, the

1:11:42equipment eventually over time will fail

1:11:45to the extent that that the plant will

1:11:47not be able to treat that water. We'll

1:11:49have uh grand environmental impacts. uh

1:11:53we won't meet our aquifer protection

1:11:56permit water quality standards. We won't

1:11:58be able to recharge that water into the

1:12:00aquifer. We won't be able to send that

1:12:01to our customers. So So the the the

1:12:05impact of not doing anything, that plant

1:12:07will continue to age. Those components

1:12:09will will eventually fail and we won't

1:12:12have the ability to treat and provide

1:12:14that that water. And that was an obvious

1:12:16question obviously for both of us and

1:12:18for the audience watching, but the

1:12:20reality is we're talking about water

1:12:22rates uh later on this week. Um this is

1:12:26the reason why that we take a hard look

1:12:28at these issues. Prevented maintenance

1:12:31enhancements. I mean you have other

1:12:33issues on here too about just buying

1:12:35material. Um activated charcoal

1:12:39$420,000.

1:12:41Um these are things that are defendable.

1:12:44Council member Hawkins indicated these

1:12:46are things that we have to do otherwise

1:12:49we can't be a safe and healthy

1:12:50community. So unfortunately it's costing

1:12:53a lot of money for various reasons

1:12:55material inflation

1:12:58obviously but if we get it done today

1:13:00obviously we're going to be able to uh

1:13:03mitigate potential issues down the road.

1:13:05So

1:13:06>> absolutely. Yeah. With planned

1:13:08rehabilitation and replacement, it's far

1:13:11cheaper than waiting till it completely

1:13:13fails and then we're acting or reacting

1:13:15in in an emergency state.

1:13:17>> And I think the mayor says this all the

1:13:18time. It's a prudent thing we have to

1:13:20keep looking at. So thank you.

1:13:22>> Thank you. I don't know if I say it like

1:13:24that, but it sounds like it should.

1:13:26>> Something like something like that.

1:13:27Mayor, I'm giving you credit for

1:13:29something.

1:13:30>> Thank you, Council Member Harris.

1:13:32>> Yeah. Um, thank you so much. I I guess

1:13:34my concern was just kind of specifically

1:13:37tagging on to what council member Ellis

1:13:39said, a $5 million supervisor role for a

1:13:43$50 million project. Um I think that's

1:13:46kind of how I see what's going on and I

1:13:48think it's kind of sticker shock to know

1:13:50that we're going to spend another5

1:13:52million to

1:13:54um to oversee a company that we're

1:13:56paying $50 million to to make sure

1:13:59they're doing the work. Um, specifically

1:14:02about the 5 million, what type of skill

1:14:04sets are we looking at um, as it

1:14:08pertains to that because this has got to

1:14:09be a very specialty

1:14:12type look overseas. So, what talk talk

1:14:16us through that process in terms of the

1:14:17type of skill sets that's going to be

1:14:20taking place, that process over there on

1:14:22the $5 million side.

1:14:23>> Okay. Through the mayor, council member

1:14:25Harris. Um yeah to to kind of elaborate

1:14:28more on the construction management

1:14:30services. Uh like I mentioned earlier,

1:14:33this is a team of 34 individuals that

1:14:35that have various responsibilities over

1:14:38this period of time. We have structural

1:14:40engineers, we have electrical engineers,

1:14:42we have civil engineers on that team

1:14:45involved in various components. We we've

1:14:47got structural rehab uh of our

1:14:50clarifiers and our basins where we're

1:14:52removing concrete and rebuilding some of

1:14:54these these concrete structures. Uh and

1:14:58and in the process we've got a lot of uh

1:15:00structural steel. So we within our our

1:15:04clarifiers, we have rotating bridges.

1:15:06These are large steel bridges that that

1:15:08that rotate 247. They never stop. A lot

1:15:12of that uh work is being removed and

1:15:14replaced with new steel. And so hence

1:15:17the the structural engineer requirement

1:15:19to oversee to make sure that yes what

1:15:21we're paying to get built but then what

1:15:23is actually uh built on site meets that

1:15:25specification.

1:15:27Uh any changes throughout that

1:15:29three-year period uh to the original

1:15:31design has to be documented at the end

1:15:34of the day. uh the engineers have to

1:15:36document, stamp, seal, sign off on those

1:15:39plans, say this is how that facility was

1:15:41built and resubmit to the state to get

1:15:44what's called an approval of

1:15:45construction to ensure that we can

1:15:47continue to operate under our permit.

1:15:50>> Uh thank you. That's all I have left.

1:15:52Thanks, Mayor.

1:15:53>> And that percentage is is not unusual.

1:15:56It's fairly standard, right,

1:15:58>> Mayor? Yes. actually uh I would say in

1:16:01in relation to this project is it's a

1:16:03little bit lower than than the average.

1:16:05Average is depending on the project

1:16:07scope and and scale is 12 to 15% for

1:16:10construction management services.

1:16:12>> Okay. Thank you. No other questions.

1:16:15Thank you, Jeremy. I I need to look back

1:16:17up. I missed one. Uh item number 18,

1:16:20agreement for young family and

1:16:22professional attraction campaign

1:16:24requested from council member Orlando.

1:16:26I'd like to call up Chelsea.

1:16:29economic development.

1:16:31>> I was off the hook for a second, but I'm

1:16:33so excited to be here to talk to you

1:16:35guys about this um campaign that we've

1:16:38been working on. I have a short

1:16:41presentation or we can walk through it

1:16:43um council member Linda, whatever

1:16:44>> you prefer.

1:16:46>> Awesome. Well, thank you for this

1:16:48opportunity. This campaign is a multi-

1:16:51channelannel marketing effort aimed at

1:16:53attracting young families and

1:16:54professionals to the city of Chandler.

1:16:56We're launching this to proactively

1:16:58address the demographic trends our

1:17:00community has been facing that are

1:17:02affecting our labor force, our consumer

1:17:04spending, municipal revenues, as well as

1:17:06school enrollment. This campaign is

1:17:09really going to be focusing on all of

1:17:10the great qualities and amenities for

1:17:12living here in Chandler. Thinking of it

1:17:14as job growth, community safety, family

1:17:17amenities, and then obviously really

1:17:18honing in on our high achieving school

1:17:21districts. We have partnered with the

1:17:23four school districts that service our

1:17:25community to initiate this campaign

1:17:27which include the Chandler Unified

1:17:29School District, Kyne Elementary, Mesa

1:17:31Public Schools, and Tempe Union High

1:17:33School District. All of whom have

1:17:34contributed $10,000 to initiate this

1:17:37marketing campaign. Additionally, we

1:17:40have gone to the Chandler Industrial

1:17:42Development Authority and received a

1:17:43$150,000 grant to initiate this campaign

1:17:47for the first year. All of this funding

1:17:49at this time is a one-time ask. Our

1:17:52school district stakeholders have been

1:17:53really involved in this initiative from

1:17:55the get-go. Um I believe you've all

1:17:57received statements of support which up

1:17:59here are just a few of the callouts from

1:18:01that. They have been instrumental in us

1:18:04getting this off the ground and will

1:18:05continue to be a part of this through

1:18:07launch and actually through the

1:18:08development and launch of this campaign.

1:18:11Tonight we're talking about the service

1:18:13agreement with Eddie Alexander, which

1:18:14was a um marketing agency that we found

1:18:17through a competitive RFP process. We

1:18:20launched this RFP in January, which

1:18:22received over or I guess 17 RFP

1:18:25proposals. Our key stakeholders, which

1:18:27are the school districts in the city, re

1:18:30reviewed all these proposals, narrowed

1:18:32it down to three, interviewed the

1:18:33agencies, and landed on Eddie Alexander.

1:18:35So, tonight the agreement in front of

1:18:37you is for a one-year contract term with

1:18:40this agency with the option to renew for

1:18:42four one-year renewal options. Um,

1:18:46upon approval, this campaign will launch

1:18:48in November with a 10-w weekek discovery

1:18:52and strategy period, which will include

1:18:54stakeholder workshops, interviews with

1:18:56our key stakeholders and their

1:18:58leadership teams, competitor

1:18:59benchmarking, and then just a regional

1:19:01brand audit that following this 10 week,

1:19:04we will get a stakeholders insight

1:19:05report will really help us drive the

1:19:07campaign metrics that we're looking to

1:19:09achieve with this campaign in that first

1:19:11initial year. The pro campaign will be

1:19:14tracked through obviously website

1:19:16analytics in the beginning, advertising,

1:19:19conversions, interactions with our video

1:19:21engagement, and then ultimately school

1:19:23district referral data. As you can

1:19:26imagine, we can't address the

1:19:27demographic trend in one year. So, we

1:19:29foresee this being a multi-year

1:19:31campaign, and that will fold into

1:19:33overwride city communication strategies.

1:19:37And because our contributions from our

1:19:38partners were just a onetime funding, we

1:19:40anticipate coming back to the city

1:19:42council and requesting additional

1:19:43funding to continue this campaign

1:19:45through the city's budget process. We're

1:19:47really looking forward to get getting

1:19:49this campaign off the ground and telling

1:19:51everybody why choose Chandler and

1:19:53continue to live here and help address

1:19:55our demographic trends. With that, I'm

1:19:58happy to answer any questions.

1:19:59>> Council of Orlando.

1:20:01>> Thank you, Charles. I know this is uh

1:20:03just starting out the early process

1:20:05here. Um I [clears throat] guess one of

1:20:08the things the process I'm looking at is

1:20:09what's the measurable goals.

1:20:11>> Yes.

1:20:12>> Um mayors council member Orlando we will

1:20:15be identifying those measurable goals

1:20:17throughout that 10-week initial phase

1:20:18with the agency. The agency has not been

1:20:20engaged in any of the data demographic

1:20:23trendings that we've been researching.

1:20:24And so it's really instrumental to

1:20:26identify what those will be in that

1:20:2810-week phase and we're happy to come

1:20:30back and report that and keep council

1:20:32informed on kind of what we decide to

1:20:34move forward with prior to launch.

1:20:36>> So the 190k you have that's for the five

1:20:39years.

1:20:40>> No, that's for the first initial year.

1:20:41So those were just grant time funding.

1:20:43So

1:20:44>> we anticipate based off of um general

1:20:47campaigns, marketing campaigns,

1:20:48community attraction campaigns, the ask

1:20:51may be similar in year two and three.

1:20:53This first initial year we'll be

1:20:54developing those assets to help us

1:20:56promote with year two really amplifying

1:20:58that through media buys and year three

1:21:01looking at maintaining this campaign.

1:21:03>> Okay. And you're going to set up a

1:21:05committee with the school districts to

1:21:07work towards whatever these goals are

1:21:09the campaigns etc. Right.

1:21:11>> Correct. Yeah. We've actually been

1:21:12working with them from day one. So we've

1:21:14had a committee all of the stakeholders

1:21:15were a part of the RFP process. Their

1:21:18valued um insight on the agreement with

1:21:20Eddie Alexander was amazing. So, we're

1:21:23all really excited to get this

1:21:24officially off the ground.

1:21:25>> Right. Thank you. Thank you, Chelse.

1:21:27Thanks, Mayor.

1:21:28>> Thanks, Mayor.

1:21:30>> Thank you, Chelsea. Um, I think this is

1:21:31a great campaign to, you know, look

1:21:33towards our future and I I love the

1:21:35collaboration that we have with the

1:21:36school district. Um, well, various

1:21:39school districts. Is there any component

1:21:41of this campaign or any portion of this?

1:21:43Um, any data or involvement that we can

1:21:46incorporate through our real estate

1:21:48associations, through we getting that

1:21:50data. Obviously the goal is to, you

1:21:52know, attract people to come and live

1:21:54here in Chandler. Is there anything on

1:21:56the plans for that or is that down the

1:21:57line or?

1:21:58>> Absolutely. Um, mayor, council member,

1:22:00vice mayor, and Cena, we do plan on

1:22:02leaning on our real estate stakeholders

1:22:04as key ambassadors for this campaign.

1:22:06And one of the reasons why we selected

1:22:08Eddie Alexander is they really call that

1:22:09out in their RFP. So, as you can

1:22:12imagine, when people are looking to move

1:22:14and relocate, they are first person that

1:22:16they're communicating with is their

1:22:17realer. And so we do plan on doing some

1:22:19road show um presentations, getting them

1:22:22engaged and involved and that way they

1:22:24can have the information and help us

1:22:26initiate this campaign and tell why they

1:22:28should choose the city of Chandler.

1:22:30>> Awesome. Thank you. Council member

1:22:32Poston, Council Member Ellis.

1:22:34>> Thank you. Uh I was kind of curious, do

1:22:37you have a specific demographic that

1:22:39you're going after or is this company

1:22:41going to help develop a persona or is it

1:22:43a combination of both?

1:22:45um mayor through through the mayor

1:22:47council member post and this is my first

1:22:48time actually so bear with me.

1:22:50>> You're doing great. Thank you.

1:22:52>> Yes, that is the initial plan. So

1:22:55obviously young professionals were

1:22:56targeting people to come and fill the

1:22:58jobs of our um employment corridors as

1:23:00well. But we plan on really identifying

1:23:03and narrowing our target audience

1:23:04through that first initial 10-week phase

1:23:06in conjunction with the agency. We all

1:23:08have ideas. the school district. Again,

1:23:09this campaign is really to help amplify

1:23:11what the school districts are already

1:23:13doing to address their schools

1:23:14enrollments. Um, and so again, this is

1:23:17really planning on amplifying those

1:23:18efforts. So, we plan on, I guess,

1:23:21forming that together.

1:23:22>> Okay. Thank you,

1:23:24>> Council Member.

1:23:24>> Thank you, Mayor Miss Elsie. I just

1:23:26don't want to leave the healthc care

1:23:29community out of this because I realize

1:23:32that so many young families, they would

1:23:34like to move here because there we have

1:23:36hospitals. you have Chandler Hospital,

1:23:38the Dignity Health, and then you have

1:23:40Gilbert Community uh hospital right next

1:23:43door and plus all these other uh sub

1:23:46hospitals that we have here in Chandler.

1:23:48So is the plan to add them at next year

1:23:51into the equation as as partners and

1:23:54things because there's a lot of money in

1:23:56the healthcare right now and those

1:23:58hospitals, they are looking for these

1:24:00nurses to come to work here. They are

1:24:01looking for doctors to come here to

1:24:03work. So if we partner with them in the

1:24:06future, I could see where they can bring

1:24:08dollars also to the table to help us

1:24:10accomplish this great in partnership,

1:24:13you know, with this great campaign.

1:24:14>> Yeah. Through the mayor, Council Member

1:24:16Ellis, that's a great um point. I think

1:24:18we'll be looking at any and all options

1:24:20to partner with industry partners, our

1:24:22key industry partners to help amplify

1:24:24this campaign. Like I said, this is a

1:24:25multi-year campaign. I foresee this

1:24:27really crawling with different legs so

1:24:29we can attack different issues of a

1:24:31community and ultimately our community

1:24:33will just marry this messaging beyond

1:24:35that

1:24:36>> because I will say so many uh students

1:24:39come here to go to nursing school

1:24:41>> and also to other healthcare schools

1:24:45that we have here and they might not

1:24:46want to go back and they might want to

1:24:48leave here and we need to truly

1:24:52collaborate with those schools,

1:24:54universities and then also the hospitals

1:24:56themselves. We'll definitely look

1:24:58>> if you need any help, I'll connect you.

1:24:59>> Awesome.

1:25:01>> Thank you.

1:25:01>> Additional questions.

1:25:04Council member Hopkins.

1:25:06>> Thank you, Chelsea. Appreciate all the

1:25:07information. I love where this program

1:25:08is going. Um I was just a little curious

1:25:11on landing on the vendor. What was the

1:25:13criteria as far as um when choosing that

1:25:17specific vendor? Yeah, through the

1:25:19mayor, council member Ell or Hawkins. Um

1:25:21we during the competitive RFP process,

1:25:24we had a very detailed um request for

1:25:26proposals. It was a combination of the

1:25:29actual budget that we have to execute

1:25:32this campaign as well as the quality of

1:25:35ads and their history with working with

1:25:37like-minded entities. Um, I think the

1:25:41proposal that we landed on really

1:25:42excited all of our stakeholders, not

1:25:44only from a creative perspective, but

1:25:46also someone that's new to market that

1:25:48could help us kind of cut through what's

1:25:50already being done, proposed new ideas.

1:25:52Um, and so looking at all the RFPs,

1:25:55really budget being the driving force,

1:25:58this really rose to the top. And even

1:26:00following our in-person interviews that

1:26:01we had with three of our finalist

1:26:03agencies, it really seemed like a great

1:26:05match and it's proving so. and I

1:26:07actually even have haven't even had my

1:26:08first meeting with them, but it's been

1:26:10awesome so far. So, um I'm looking

1:26:12forward to that.

1:26:13>> Good, good, good. Okay. Um I think

1:26:15Council Member Ellis kind of already

1:26:16talked about like who else are we

1:26:17partnering with? Um I think to their

1:26:19points like the more that we can bring

1:26:20into this conversation, the better off

1:26:22we'll be. Love that you already have

1:26:24measurables in place. I think that's

1:26:25fantastic. And then my only other

1:26:27request is just keep us updated.

1:26:28Absolutely.

1:26:29>> So we can see how we're pivoting and

1:26:30moving the needle.

1:26:31>> Awesome. Thank you.

1:26:32>> Thank you.

1:26:34>> Thank you, Chelsea. The last item called

1:26:37in from the consent vendum is item

1:26:39number 39. Sir Jeremy, you need to come

1:26:42back up here. Uh, this is for the Hunt

1:26:46Highway. Well, called in from council

1:26:48member Orlando.

1:26:50>> Mayor, I got my answer on this one,

1:26:52Jeremy. No, no need. This was a We

1:26:54talked about this earlier. This is just

1:26:55a part of the whole thing we talked

1:26:58about earlier about uh our rates. What's

1:27:01what's um [snorts] driving our rates?

1:27:04That was an example I forgot to tell

1:27:06about, but we did talk about this. We're

1:27:07good. Thanks.

1:27:08>> Thank you.

1:27:09>> Okay, council. Next on our agenda is we

1:27:11have three items for discussion and to

1:27:14our council and audience. We're not

1:27:16making any decision here tonight. The

1:27:20question before us of the as as

1:27:22different council members have requested

1:27:25something is if I'm going to ask the

1:27:28council member to explain what they want

1:27:30to do. If indeed they another council

1:27:34member joins them on this request, we

1:27:36then will refer this to staff to come

1:27:40back to us at a future time uh either

1:27:44for an ordinance or other types of

1:27:47considerations. So,

1:27:49um, and if I have any question, we will

1:27:51run it to our city manager, to our city

1:27:54attorney, but this is really the goal is

1:27:57if is there is there enough desire on

1:28:00council to have more than one support

1:28:03this in order to have staff do further

1:28:05research and bring us back an ordinance

1:28:08or or something else at that point. So,

1:28:13let me I'm not sure if there's

1:28:15presentations involved with this since

1:28:17we've all been privy to that, but hang

1:28:20on and let me see. The first is

1:28:22discussion and possible direction

1:28:24regarding amendment options for Chandler

1:28:27Municipal Code Chapter 8 through 10, the

1:28:30extension of runway physical

1:28:32limitations.

1:28:33Let me turn this since again we've all

1:28:36had opportunity I think to have an

1:28:38extensive presentation almost all um but

1:28:41council member Ellis uh tell us your

1:28:43intention your desire where do you want

1:28:46to go with this

1:28:46>> thank you mayor really appreciate it

1:28:48thank you Mr. Ran for being here with us

1:28:50this evening. Mayor, what I wanted to do

1:28:52is kind of piggyback on the last meeting

1:28:54that we had where we were in the room

1:28:56and the presentation was made and

1:28:59basically we had we were at a at the

1:29:01draw where three of us wanted to give

1:29:04direction and three of us pretty much

1:29:05were looking at not giving direction. So

1:29:08we we didn't have a fourth person to

1:29:11kind of break the tie in the process in

1:29:14the understanding since then that I have

1:29:16spoken with council member Harris and

1:29:19the rest of uh the council who would

1:29:21like to give direction and I'm still

1:29:24getting a yes. So tonight I wanted to

1:29:26bring Mr. Reeves here so to publicly I

1:29:29know we had an open public meeting and

1:29:31people could have been there. So

1:29:32>> council member we're not going to have

1:29:34the complete presentation. I'm not

1:29:35asking for a complete term presentation,

1:29:37mayor. If you waited for me, you could

1:29:39have heard me say that's what I tell the

1:29:41kids all the time. Wait until I'm

1:29:42finished and you would know exactly what

1:29:44I'm trying to ask you. So, what I'm

1:29:46saying tonight is the fact that I just

1:29:48wanted you to revisit with us the two

1:29:50options that we had in the room when we

1:29:53had to give the directions. And quickly,

1:29:55if you may add, what are the benefits

1:29:58for us to actually use either one of

1:30:01those and what is the negative behind

1:30:04not doing very quickly do that as a hold

1:30:07for us so that the public uh if they

1:30:09want to go back and revisit that they'll

1:30:10have a good idea of what we were trying

1:30:13to accomplished.

1:30:14>> So Ran, could you do this in about four

1:30:16or five minutes? The goal again is to is

1:30:19there another council member that will

1:30:21agree with you that we will further

1:30:23study and bring back to us in the

1:30:24future.

1:30:25>> And at this point, I think I have four

1:30:26council members that are agreed with me.

1:30:29>> Then if another council member is in

1:30:31agreement, we can give a brief

1:30:33presentation and then this will come up

1:30:36as a future consideration. Correct.

1:30:38>> Yes, sir.

1:30:39>> All right.

1:30:40>> All right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um,

1:30:42Council Member Ellis, at your request,

1:30:44we're going to give a very brief

1:30:46highlevel revisit of the presentation

1:30:48from September 17th. Uh, that was quite

1:30:51extensive. Um, the tonight what we're

1:30:53talking about is one of two options that

1:30:55the community impact study uh, resulted

1:30:57in recommending for the runway

1:30:59extension. One was keep the ordinance,

1:31:01namely 38.88,

1:31:03um, and as written, and move towards a

1:31:05bond election. Option two was amend the

1:31:08ordinance to remove the bond election

1:31:10requirement but keep protections that

1:31:12residents valued. Um now what the runway

1:31:16extension means requires a little

1:31:17context for those who weren't there and

1:31:18for the benefit of those in the room. A

1:31:20runway extension at the airport requires

1:31:21zero uh property be uh acquired. We

1:31:25don't change the type of aircraft that

1:31:26can operate at the airport. 90 plus

1:31:28percent of the project's cost will be

1:31:32covered by the Federal Aviation

1:31:33Administration is where share values uh

1:31:36with AOT grants. Um and the only thing

1:31:38stopping us from from progressing

1:31:41towards runway extension is uh ordinance

1:31:44388 which we're asking for direction on

1:31:48this evening. The extension um cannot be

1:31:51longer than 680 ft. that will take us to

1:31:53a total length on the south runway only

1:31:55of 5,550

1:31:57ft. Um the reason for that is the air in

1:32:02summer is warm. We need that for um the

1:32:06users that are already at our airport so

1:32:09that they may use the airport year round

1:32:12rather than skipping using it uh the

1:32:15benefits of the airport the four months

1:32:17of the summer. Now, what the extension

1:32:21does and does not do, it allows aircraft

1:32:23again that are currently here to use us

1:32:24year round. Um, it keeps businesses and

1:32:27tenants and I would argue the airport

1:32:29competitive uh in the current aviation

1:32:32market. Um, it does shift the runway

1:32:35protection zone a bit to the northeast

1:32:38um on airport property. What it does not

1:32:40do is bring large airlines passenger

1:32:42terminals um firefighting requirements

1:32:44to be on airport. Um, it does not allow

1:32:47heavier aircraft to land here. Um, and

1:32:50it doesn't add flight paths or introduce

1:32:52new flight patterns over neighborhoods

1:32:55that don't currently have them. Um, and

1:32:57most importantly, it does not change our

1:32:58role. Now, the noise contours do change

1:33:01a bit. As you'll see, the top uh noise

1:33:03contour, the outside of the red contour

1:33:06is the 65 decibel line, which the the

1:33:09FAA terms as significant noise impact.

1:33:13Uh that's our current configuration on

1:33:15existing. The extended shows that we do

1:33:17extend into the industrial space to our

1:33:20northeast, but we also see that noise

1:33:22line recede from the residential along

1:33:24Queen Creek a bit. Um 95% of the cost is

1:33:30footed by the FAA and AOT Aeronautics.

1:33:33Um the total project cost is just over

1:33:367.1 million. Our share would only be

1:33:394.47% of that. What the airport

1:33:42contributes today is roughly this $150

1:33:44million of economic impact. A growth

1:33:47scenario, not a projection, is that with

1:33:50the extension, we could see as much as

1:33:52$220 million of economic impact. It does

1:33:55make us more competitive in the market

1:33:57for development and operations and

1:33:59revenue generation.

1:34:01What waiting costs us is the summer

1:34:03stability uh continues to be an issue at

1:34:05the airport. Again, the hot temperatures

1:34:07here four months out of the year. We

1:34:08have a lot of base businesses that are

1:34:11currently at the airport and a lot of

1:34:13businesses that want to be at the

1:34:14airport that are currently limited

1:34:17because of the runway length and of

1:34:19course construction escalation. The

1:34:21longer we wait to pursue a project such

1:34:24as this, we're seeing roughly 3.6%

1:34:27um escalation costs annually. Um what

1:34:32ordinance 3888 protects is the runway

1:34:35extension requires public input. Um it

1:34:38caps the runway at 5,700 feet and it

1:34:40sets maximum weight for the air for the

1:34:42airport. None of that changes. Um what

1:34:45it restricts us from doing is pursuing

1:34:47FAA funding for such capital expansion

1:34:51as a runway extension. Um because we

1:34:54don't have a bond election currently. We

1:34:57cannot pursue these projects. Um we are

1:35:00the only city in the state uh with such

1:35:03a requirement. The normal process is to

1:35:06have it approved through city council

1:35:08and capital projects and then pursue FAA

1:35:12uh approvals and studies. Um I will say

1:35:17that the baseline cost right now our

1:35:20share is $319,000

1:35:22of the project. If we pursue a bond

1:35:25election, the bond election, I am told,

1:35:27can cost the city as much as $500,000

1:35:31and then

1:35:33escalation of cost with inflation ensues

1:35:36and every year we wait. Now, the two

1:35:39options side by side are this. Um, keep

1:35:42the ordinance as written and move to a

1:35:45bond election and everything stays the

1:35:48same and every current ordinant limit

1:35:50stays in place and a ballot measure plus

1:35:52the federal process process follows.

1:35:54Option two is to amend the ordinance,

1:35:58but council may put other protections in

1:36:00that such as a length cap, which again

1:36:03we're only asking for 5,550 ft, not 5700

1:36:06as the current ordinance reads. Um, we

1:36:10can put a footprint limit on the

1:36:12airport, i.e. the airport cannot expand

1:36:14beyond its current property lines. Um,

1:36:18and all aircraft weight and wingspan

1:36:20limits stay the same. Um what I will

1:36:23emphasize here tonight as I emphasized

1:36:25with you last month this is a four to

1:36:27fiveyear process um with either

1:36:31direction we go. So each

1:36:34um year you see on this timeline

1:36:39is required and mandated by the FAA to

1:36:42extend a runway with the exception of

1:36:44our ordinance action. And at every stage

1:36:48of this outside of construction, there

1:36:51is required federallymandated public

1:36:54input. Um, with that, I'll try and keep

1:36:58it as short as I can. Mayor, um, the

1:37:01options before us that we're requesting

1:37:03direction on or keep the ordinance as

1:37:04written and move towards a bond election

1:37:06or enhance and amend the ordinance to

1:37:09move towards runway construction. And we

1:37:11await council's pleasure.

1:37:13>> So, is there someone that would

1:37:16join council member Ellis in exploring

1:37:18these options and bringing something

1:37:20back to us. Mayor,

1:37:23>> I'm glad let me ask a question first. Is

1:37:26there

1:37:27>> Well, I I'll join it, but then we'll So,

1:37:29we have two, but what is it? Council

1:37:31[clears throat] member Yeah. Orlando.

1:37:33So, um

1:37:35the bond election to go back in history

1:37:38was just a mechanism to put on the

1:37:40ballot as we spoke about last week.

1:37:44council could option three,

1:37:47it might be more, but option three was

1:37:50I'm we talked a little bit about was to

1:37:53remove the bond election and just go to

1:37:55a public vote because again this was all

1:37:58based upon a public vote.

1:38:02Um, so

1:38:05looking at this and in my mind, I'd

1:38:09rather go down that path versus just

1:38:12changing as a council member. We could

1:38:14still get a election. We could still get

1:38:16the votes. The commitment that we had to

1:38:19the voters. Um,

1:38:22let's be let's go back a step. The

1:38:24reason why we had these ordinances in

1:38:25place was based upon a vote of the

1:38:28people in 1989

1:38:31to 2000 and whatever the other three

1:38:33were you you crossed them. So it's not a

1:38:35question of extending the runway. I even

1:38:38the emails I received where all of us

1:38:40received over the last couple of days

1:38:42and discussion points folks are not

1:38:44against the extension of runway. They

1:38:47just want to see a vote. They feel like

1:38:50the council would be usurping according

1:38:52to their memos

1:38:54usurping our authority. So I don't want

1:38:57to limit ourselves to just one or two. I

1:39:00want to add more value to this by saying

1:39:03let's go to the voters and let's go uh

1:39:06let's remove the bond aspect of this.

1:39:10>> So I already asked that go ahead. I

1:39:12already did ask that we send this to

1:39:15staff to explore and what other options

1:39:17that can come back that we can vote on.

1:39:20So it may be very clear uh what my

1:39:23intent was tonight uh when I asked for

1:39:25this to come back and then for us to

1:39:28look more closely at uh uh option two

1:39:30which is where I believe that we can

1:39:34actually not only be more efficient but

1:39:38less costly especially very transparent.

1:39:41This will not be something that we will

1:39:43be doing in the back behind the

1:39:45background in secrecy and also respect

1:39:48the residents and the taxpayers money

1:39:51very much so with this option the fact

1:39:54that we have a four years process uh

1:39:58with the FAA overseeing this whole

1:40:01process engaging the community making

1:40:04sure that those who are either for or

1:40:07against have an opportunity to come to

1:40:08the table and let us know or is strictly

1:40:12literally tying council's hand in a way

1:40:15letting us know that we are not making

1:40:17this decision to usurp the people's

1:40:20vote. What we are saying to the people

1:40:22at this point, you have truly elected us

1:40:26in this year in this 2026

1:40:30to make decision that's going to move

1:40:32the city forward. Not waiting until 1998

1:40:36for us to continue to make decision with

1:40:38those timeline. But in 2026, realizing

1:40:43the fact that with a 2021 million

1:40:46sitting at the airport to engage with

1:40:48997

1:40:52jobs waiting for us to employ people, I

1:40:56have business owners sitting at the

1:40:58airport cannot park their business.

1:41:01Every six months they have to take

1:41:04people off jobs, literally fire people

1:41:08and rehire them in six months if they're

1:41:11available. These are multi-million

1:41:13dollar businesses who are bringing tax

1:41:15money into the city for us to move the

1:41:18city forward. Now we are telling them we

1:41:20don't even want to start a process until

1:41:23we get a yes from a of $500,000 that we

1:41:28have to put for an election. whether

1:41:30it's a bone election or not, election

1:41:32costs money. And so I'm looking into how

1:41:35can we do this very efficiently,

1:41:38still keep the people very involved

1:41:40because I do not want anything that the

1:41:43people of Chandler does not want. But at

1:41:46this point, I'm getting more people

1:41:48telling me they would like to see a

1:41:49process done versus those a few that I

1:41:52have sent. I only received two email

1:41:54that was against two emails that I

1:41:57received and they were addressed

1:41:59personally to me because I was the one

1:42:01who they heard was going to put it on

1:42:03the agenda tonight. So whether they

1:42:05whoever wanted to, you know, truly say

1:42:09no to this, they could have come here

1:42:11tonight and tell me in front of me or

1:42:13keep sending me email. But the fact is I

1:42:16have two people tonight who would like

1:42:18to move this thing forward and I would

1:42:20like to do that. Mayor.

1:42:21>> Mayor. All right, we've got our two. I

1:42:24don't want this to be a discussion

1:42:25between two council members. So again,

1:42:28staff, I'm going to ask you to

1:42:30>> come back to us with options for this

1:42:33and then meet with us and we will at a

1:42:36future council meeting either amend an

1:42:39amendment. Either way, we'll have to

1:42:41amend an amendment,

1:42:44>> mayor. But whatever that is, I would

1:42:46like to do that. And now I'm going to go

1:42:48on to the next discussion.

1:42:50>> Excuse me. Point order here. No, we may

1:42:52excuse me,

1:42:53>> you are not recognized.

1:42:54>> Well, mayor, I would ask you to

1:42:55recognize me because this is out of

1:42:58character.

1:42:59>> No,

1:42:59>> we had a meeting is out of character.

1:43:01>> Mayor,

1:43:02>> I'm going to move on to the next item.

1:43:04>> We don't know what the rest of the

1:43:05council feels about this issue.

1:43:08>> What matters

1:43:09>> asking council member Orlando is two

1:43:11people as required to have staff bring

1:43:14this back. That's the simple ask. Is

1:43:16there enough of a will to bring this to

1:43:19a future item? No, we got that.

1:43:21>> No, that's that's not the way we did

1:43:23this last time. In fact, we had council

1:43:25member Poston who brought up an issue.

1:43:28We had three people that said move

1:43:30forward and we didn't move forward

1:43:32because you asked the rest of the

1:43:34council. I'm just going by the precedent

1:43:36set. We asked the rest of the council

1:43:38and there was enough council members

1:43:40that said don't move forward. Go work

1:43:42with staff on this. So, we changed the

1:43:45the matrix here. So I would like to hear

1:43:49my personal opinion. I would like to

1:43:51hear what other council members have to

1:43:52say so that staff is not spending days,

1:43:55hours and time and come back and say

1:43:58that's not what we wanted.

1:44:00>> So I would thank you

1:44:01>> hope that we would hope to have the rest

1:44:02of the council members be recognized

1:44:04what their thoughts are.

1:44:05>> Point taken. Council member Hopkins,

1:44:08would you support uh further exploration

1:44:12into this and the change of a possible

1:44:15ordinance based upon or last? I'm just

1:44:17going to go down the row here. What

1:44:19would be your your thoughts?

1:44:32>> Okay, apologies. Technical issues

1:44:34tonight. Um I can see both sides of this

1:44:36issue. Um, I could see going either way

1:44:39in this right now. Um, I 100% support

1:44:43the extension. However, I believe

1:44:46it would make sense to do the vote.

1:44:49However, I do have questions on that.

1:44:51Um, for city attorney, could you please

1:44:54tell me what is the earliest special

1:44:56election date that we could anticipate

1:44:59if it was to go that way?

1:45:02So, if you were to have a a general

1:45:04election, the earliest date that you

1:45:06could have a a general voter election,

1:45:09not a bond election, but a general voter

1:45:11election would be May of 27. You because

1:45:14the you can have a general voter

1:45:16election on any of the four election

1:45:18dates. Um, but you're too late to get it

1:45:20on the March election. The deadlines to

1:45:22get it on the March election have

1:45:24already passed. So, the earliest would

1:45:26be May of 27. And then the first

1:45:29election if it was a bond election would

1:45:31be November because you can only have a

1:45:33bond election in November. So it would

1:45:35be November of 27.

1:45:38Okay. Thank you. Um the other thing that

1:45:41I would request

1:45:43if this was to go to a uh May ballot is

1:45:48what kind of written plan could we

1:45:50expect from our side? How would we be

1:45:51getting our messaging out? What would

1:45:53that look like? I know Ryan touched on a

1:45:55few points that the FAA um has some

1:45:58mandated stuff. However, is that

1:45:59something that you could provide to us

1:46:01on

1:46:03what the expectation is? What's our

1:46:05standards and how are we getting this

1:46:07message out?

1:46:10So, if it was a general voter election,

1:46:13not a bond election, um it would just be

1:46:16um you would be passing an ordinance to

1:46:19amend the code and it would just be a

1:46:21general this uh qualified electors are

1:46:26um asked to amend the code uh pursuant

1:46:29to this ordinance and it would be a

1:46:31general question presented to the

1:46:32borders of the qualified electors of the

1:46:34city of Chandler just like any other

1:46:37code amendment.

1:46:38Um, if it was a bond election, um, you

1:46:42would present it in the normal course as

1:46:44any bond election question. Um, and I

1:46:47mean it would run the course of any

1:46:48normal bond election. There would be a

1:46:50publicity pamphlet, there would be pros,

1:46:52cons um, and that's how that would run.

1:46:56>> Okay. Thank you. And city manager, is

1:46:59that something that you guys could put

1:47:00together um, as a plan of action that we

1:47:02could see?

1:47:04>> Mayor, council member Hawkins, we could

1:47:07within whatever recommended ordinance

1:47:09that we put forward to you and you guys

1:47:11chosen many safeguards to ensure that

1:47:13the residents are getting exactly what

1:47:16we're talking about here tonight. As far

1:47:18as

1:47:20promoting that ordinance, I have to be

1:47:22careful once it goes to a vote. Then I'm

1:47:24not I'm allowed to give the facts. I'm

1:47:25not allowed to suggest how that vote

1:47:27plays out. But we could definitely make

1:47:30sure that that ordinance provides all of

1:47:32the aspects of the enhanced community

1:47:35engagement process that we discussed at

1:47:37the last meeting that most council will

1:47:38support.

1:47:39>> Okay.

1:47:40>> Thank you, Mayor.

1:47:41>> May I provide information on that May 18

1:47:45election,

1:47:46>> please?

1:47:46>> Because the deadline to notify the

1:47:48county about any ballot measures would

1:47:50be November 19th. So, that comes up very

1:47:53quickly. and then the ballot language um

1:47:56is also due to them by that time and

1:47:58then we'd have to publish the call of

1:48:00the election in December. So for the May

1:48:0318, all those deadlines come up very

1:48:05quickly.

1:48:07>> And and to be clear, what I ask for is

1:48:10for them to come back and explore a

1:48:12change of this because anything we do is

1:48:14going to take a change of an ordinance

1:48:16if we if or an ordinance of some kind.

1:48:19Whether we go to any election, it's

1:48:21going to take an ordinance if we move

1:48:22this from a bond to a general. That is

1:48:24what I've asked staff to what I would

1:48:26like to ask staff to do in this case.

1:48:30>> Okay. Thank you for clarifying. Um, and

1:48:32I got my answers. So, I would like to um

1:48:43I guess I do not need staff to bring

1:48:46forward anything right now.

1:48:48>> So, you do not need staff to bring

1:48:50anything forward.

1:48:51>> No.

1:48:52>> Okay.

1:48:54>> Well, I take that back. Um,

1:48:57I guess help me work through this. If we

1:48:59were to

1:49:02look at the May ballot, we would still

1:49:05need them to come back Thursday with

1:49:07information. Okay. So, sorry about that.

1:49:09We'll get there eventually. Um, yes. So,

1:49:10that would be my request is to have them

1:49:13move forward with information.

1:49:14>> So, to explore and see is what I hear

1:49:17you saying, the possibility of a general

1:49:19election.

1:49:20>> Yes, sir.

1:49:21>> Okay.

1:49:21>> Thank you.

1:49:22>> And to do that with haste.

1:49:24>> Absolutely.

1:49:25>> Be your request. Okay.

1:49:27Council member Harris.

1:49:28>> Thank you so much, Mayor. Um I um I

1:49:32think that there's something I want to

1:49:34clarify here. U when the council makes

1:49:37an ordinance, that's our decision. Um

1:49:40that's not the will of the voters. Um it

1:49:42may be influenced by the will of the

1:49:44voters, but it's our decision up here.

1:49:46So we never really we never went to a

1:49:48vote out in public to say this is the

1:49:51law of the land. We we never did that.

1:49:53So I just kind of wanted to make sure

1:49:55that when we ordinances up here. That's

1:49:57the will of the council and the people

1:50:03are the advocate of what they heard at

1:50:06that time. I wasn't here during the time

1:50:08that these things was written and and

1:50:11today I have to make a decision um to uh

1:50:15to look at what today looked like and

1:50:18and I would like today I think the

1:50:20airport has a lot of uh opportunity

1:50:23there. I would like staff to look

1:50:26further into what it can be for the

1:50:29future um and bring back information

1:50:32including the the bond information.

1:50:35Whatever options you want to give us,

1:50:37bring that back to us. We should all sit

1:50:39and look at that um and and and move

1:50:43forward that way because I do think

1:50:45there are some areas of opportunity. But

1:50:46I do think there's a critical

1:50:48conversation that probably needs to have

1:50:49with the community. Not one or two

1:50:52persons should control the outcome. not

1:50:54five or 10. It should be a robust

1:50:56conversation and with a five-year

1:50:57process um that that creates a

1:51:00conversation and and we're going to have

1:51:02a lot of options. So, I would tell the

1:51:04community whether you are whether you

1:51:08are looking at possibly seeing what the

1:51:11economic opportunity could be for this

1:51:13or whether you see this as a a stopping

1:51:16point. I think at best the council today

1:51:21owe you all the options first. And the

1:51:24only way we're gonna get all the options

1:51:26is by getting staff to go out and do the

1:51:29work. We've seen the surveys. Go out

1:51:31there and do the work and bring back all

1:51:32the options to us um for another

1:51:36discussion. So, I do support um I do

1:51:39support moving forward with staff um

1:51:43coming back to give us options. So, um,

1:51:46that's where I'm going to lay my claim

1:51:48there. So, thank you,

1:51:51>> Council Member Martinez.

1:51:54>> I thought thought you your voice was

1:51:55heard.

1:51:56>> I would um echo Council Member Hawkins

1:51:59thought process. Okay. If there's move

1:52:02forward uh to work on getting a a vote

1:52:05of the people. Uh again, this was the

1:52:07vote of the people. It's always been the

1:52:10vote of the people in my mind for almost

1:52:1140 years now. Um the ordinances were

1:52:15created because of the vote. Yeah. We

1:52:18sat up here and voted 70,

1:52:21but it was the cudgel

1:52:24that brought that ordinance to respect

1:52:27that. It was the people that said we

1:52:29want you to do something. And we put

1:52:31that several council members, not just

1:52:33this mind, the ones I was on. Um the

1:52:37bond was a convenience but it wasn't it

1:52:40was a requirement for the convenience of

1:52:42it because they want to put it in a a

1:52:44bond election which they did twice and

1:52:46twice it failed. Uh I truly believe this

1:52:49would pass. But I also truly believe I

1:52:53don't want to lose the trust of the

1:52:55voters. They've been saying this for

1:52:57many many years and it's been more than

1:53:00uh two people or 10 people or 15 people.

1:53:03So, I rather see council member Hawkins

1:53:06thought process uh which is why mine is

1:53:09to do a general election on this. If

1:53:11it's the value of the airport is $250

1:53:13[clears throat] million

1:53:15>> and you want to compare 500,000

1:53:18to a potential upswing of $250,000.

1:53:21Count me in. I'll take that bet. I'll

1:53:24take that ROI anytime. So, that's my

1:53:27thoughts on it. Feel free to move

1:53:28forward. I like to see us move forward

1:53:30with the general election.

1:53:32>> That's fair. Thank you, mayor. Uh,

1:53:34council member, I do appreciate you

1:53:35bringing this topic back up. It's a very

1:53:36important um topic that um we've been

1:53:39discussing and I think there's a lot of

1:53:41great economic opportunity and so for

1:53:43me, I would like to see the additional

1:53:45options of amending our our current

1:53:48ordinance u but still keeping the the

1:53:51vote there with our residents. So, see

1:53:53what options we do have available

1:53:54whether it's a general election or

1:53:55sooner or the sooner the better. you

1:53:58know, if later works out considering the

1:53:59the time frames and the constraints, but

1:54:01I still would like to see a vote of the

1:54:02people on this item. So, if we can um

1:54:06see what options we have amending this

1:54:08ordinance, detaching it from the

1:54:09requirement of the bond, I'd like to see

1:54:11that.

1:54:13>> Council member Poston,

1:54:14>> Council Member Ellis.

1:54:16>> Okay, revisit.

1:54:18>> Thank you so much, Mayor. We like to

1:54:20thank my colleagues for taking the time

1:54:22to look into this. It was done in a

1:54:25public way. It was done where every

1:54:29business owner who needed to say

1:54:31something was there. Those who had sent

1:54:34email to us for or against didn't show

1:54:38up that night. And frankly, I don't know

1:54:41how many of them are in this room right

1:54:42now. So, the fact of the matter is I not

1:54:47sitting here saying that I want to

1:54:51take the trust of the people and throw

1:54:54it back in their face.

1:54:56What I'm saying tonight is that we have

1:54:59before us a decision to make which

1:55:02requires that we truly

1:55:06have the courage to make that decision.

1:55:07The same way at the time I believe

1:55:11D consult had the courage to make that

1:55:14decision because they had the people or

1:55:16they had a few people at their throat at

1:55:18the time and at this time what we are

1:55:20saying or what I'm trying to move

1:55:22forward here is this city. I am not

1:55:25moving anything forward that will look

1:55:29at my own interest because the interest

1:55:32of the people of Chandler that's what I

1:55:35am trying to move here tonight I do not

1:55:38want to take them out when you go back

1:55:41with your team please understand that

1:55:44make it a priority I do not want the

1:55:46people to be out of the process all I'm

1:55:49saying tonight is that we have tied our

1:55:52hands with an ordinance And now we have

1:55:55an opportunity to untie it and bring

1:55:57more people involved in it in 2026

1:56:00rather than 1998. And those and I live

1:56:03in that pathway of that airport. I've

1:56:05been living there Lord knows for how

1:56:07long. And so the fact of the matter is

1:56:10I'm one of them. I'm one of those

1:56:12constituents. So I'm talking to myself

1:56:14also. So please understand that I am not

1:56:18asking you to go back Mr. Ryan and try

1:56:21to remove the people from the process.

1:56:23What I'm saying is that put the pros and

1:56:25the con together with the fact that do

1:56:28we want to gamble with this city,

1:56:31continue to gamble with this airport

1:56:33that is sitting right there for us to be

1:56:35able to do something that is

1:56:37progressive, something that is amazing,

1:56:40something that's going to continue to

1:56:41move this city forward. And I'm going to

1:56:43leave us with this and to all of my

1:56:46colleagues. Elections threat of election

1:56:50should not stop us from making decision

1:56:52to move this city forward and those who

1:56:54use threats of election to stop people.

1:56:57I have sat on this D so many times and

1:57:00I've seen them came for me for this seat

1:57:02because I have taken stands that

1:57:05requires me have the courage to make a

1:57:08decision for the greater good and I have

1:57:10done that with every single day for the

1:57:12people of Chandler because every night I

1:57:14live here I'm going to go home and I'm

1:57:17going to have a good night's sleep

1:57:18because I've done it well and I've done

1:57:20it with a clean hand and a pure heart

1:57:22for the people of Chandler. Thank you,

1:57:24Mayor

1:57:26That's where we're posted.

1:57:28>> Thank you. While I'm asking you this one

1:57:31question, I just kind of want to give

1:57:32you a little heads up. If you could pull

1:57:34up the slide that had that timeline on

1:57:37it. Something caught my eye and I'm

1:57:38going to have a second question about

1:57:40that. Thank you. So, um I guess my first

1:57:44my first question though, um

1:57:48one of the concerns that I had about

1:57:50this was the public input and again the

1:57:53voters kind of similar to some what's

1:57:55already been spoken about up here and

1:57:57that when we were looking at the data

1:57:59that we received, it was from airport

1:58:01days which was kind of a a an audience

1:58:06that probably going to typically lean

1:58:08for an airport anyhow along with our

1:58:11scitec festival and I and I know we did

1:58:13the outreach that we could but I I just

1:58:15really kind of feel like we need to do

1:58:17more. One of the items that you had said

1:58:19to sort of sued that concern that I had

1:58:21had was that the FAA requires public

1:58:26input. So one of the things that

1:58:29occurred to me after we had this meeting

1:58:30last time is once they get that input

1:58:34and we have started this process whose

1:58:38decision is it then when we're getting

1:58:40that public input does it then come back

1:58:42to this council does it do the voters

1:58:44get to decide or are we seating that

1:58:47decision to the FAA because at that

1:58:50point you started the process

1:58:52>> uh through the mayor council member

1:58:54Poston the FAA mandate ated uh public

1:58:58input particularly through the design

1:59:00process as well as the environmental

1:59:02review process that is in the FAA's

1:59:06court. It is for them to assess, decide,

1:59:09adjust. Now that said, we have seen

1:59:12multiple examples um even locally and

1:59:16lately of the FAA heeding that call to

1:59:20the public and adjusting not only their

1:59:23timelines but quite possibly their

1:59:25ultimate decisions.

1:59:27They gather tremendous amount of public

1:59:30input through particularly the

1:59:32environmental review process. There are

1:59:34in-person meetings, virtual meetings. It

1:59:37takes months. Typically a I would say a

1:59:41thorough NEPA review takes anywhere from

1:59:4412 to 18 months and that's just for the

1:59:47environmental

1:59:48side of this. And then there's two

1:59:50design phases on each side of that

1:59:53environmental review. all of which have

1:59:56public input. Um,

1:59:58>> okay. I I think this actually kind of

2:00:00leads into my next question because I

2:00:02think you might have answered it. Um,

2:00:05but at that point, you know, that that

2:00:07timeline that you showed, you're getting

2:00:08that input at that 30% design and the

2:00:12output.

2:00:13>> So, at that point, our residents are

2:00:14discussing the design, what it looks

2:00:17like, the impact, and those sorts of

2:00:19things. Our residents are not giving you

2:00:21input on whether they want this or not

2:00:24though.

2:00:24>> Correct.

2:00:25>> Okay. That that's that's where I was

2:00:27going with that. So, thank you for the

2:00:29explanation and your answer. Um

2:00:33um

2:00:35just to clarify in terms of if we are

2:00:38asking staff to move forward, we're

2:00:40asking them to move forward with all

2:00:43three possibilities. um that whether

2:00:46it's the possibility of a or any

2:00:49possibility of not moving forward, maybe

2:00:52even being one of them if that's the

2:00:53most appropriate, the vote, the

2:00:56potential of a vote and the potential of

2:00:58us adjusting the ordinance somehow.

2:01:01>> That was my intention.

2:01:02>> Okay. Yes. Then then I can support that.

2:01:05So, thank you very much and thanks for

2:01:06your input, Ryan.

2:01:08>> Okay.

2:01:10City Manager, do you have a do you have

2:01:12a through the through the fog perhaps?

2:01:16Do you have a precient voice of

2:01:18direction of what to investigate and

2:01:21bring back to us? Exploring the

2:01:23possibility of elections if we shifted

2:01:27from a bond to a general, what ordinance

2:01:30would look like? uh uh the the timelines

2:01:35that are possibly mentioned to bring

2:01:37this back to uh future council or this

2:01:40council or a future council.

2:01:43>> Mayor, I think the direction is clear

2:01:44that by the november 9th meeting, we

2:01:47need to bring back two new ordinances.

2:01:51One that would remove the bond election

2:01:53and put a general election in and one

2:01:55that would remove the elections

2:01:56entirely. That third option is stand

2:01:58pack and that doesn't require any

2:02:00changes to the current ordinance. If we

2:02:02do that in November, I think the first

2:02:04meeting is November 9th. That still

2:02:07gives us time to camp. No.

2:02:11Uh I was mayor, I was speaking with the

2:02:13city attorney. I think with the timeline

2:02:15changing your ordinance, you have an

2:02:16introduction and then a second reading

2:02:19and then it's effective 30 days after.

2:02:21So realistically, you're probably

2:02:23looking at the July 20, 2027 election

2:02:27>> as the earliest.

2:02:29>> Yes. Because you'd notify the county by

2:02:30January 21st.

2:02:33>> Okay. And that I So also put in there

2:02:36the options and and even pros and cons

2:02:40of uh if council wanted to proceed that

2:02:43way, what what would be that? So, uh,

2:02:46moving beyond an op beyond a vote,

2:02:49looking at the the bond option, looking

2:02:52at a general, I think is the the

2:02:55questions to get input and pre prepare

2:02:58some possibilities. Okay,

2:03:00>> we will take that input and get it back

2:03:01to council.

2:03:02>> Thank you, mayor.

2:03:05just um just for staffs just I don't

2:03:08need no comment back but also

2:03:10special meetings too can can also

2:03:13alleviate issues as well.

2:03:16I'm sorry. I didn't understand.

2:03:21>> Okay.

2:03:24>> Okay. All right. Um, we have two more

2:03:27discussion points. Discussion and

2:03:29possible

2:03:31Yes. Thank you, Ron. U to dis consider

2:03:34reducing full-time hours for employment

2:03:37benefit eligibility. This is requested

2:03:40by council member Harris. Um, mayor, I

2:03:43got that question answered. I think

2:03:45we're all set.

2:03:46>> Okay. And a third discussion in possible

2:03:49direction to consider rolling 410

2:03:52schedules for employees.

2:03:54>> Yeah, I wanted to um um city manager, if

2:03:57you can help me. I spoke with city

2:03:59manager about bringing this forward and

2:04:03one of the things I wanted to do was

2:04:04look at potential um changing city hours

2:04:08to allow our community to have um for us

2:04:11to have longer days um or 10 hours. So

2:04:15that way community can those that work

2:04:18in the morning time can still come and

2:04:20get the benefit of night hours and

2:04:23making sure that um we're able our

2:04:26services are reflective of a community

2:04:28that works 247. And right now our

2:04:31community hours are only reflective of

2:04:35um our business hours only reflective

2:04:37for most departments is only reflective

2:04:39of a community that during during the

2:04:42daytime. And also, I wanted to make sure

2:04:44that employees have the opportunity by

2:04:47having longer days, they can also get

2:04:49mental well-being. They can go to their

2:04:51kids soccer games. They'll be able to

2:04:53have the opportunity to um they'll be

2:04:56able to have the opportunity to actually

2:04:58uh have time away. So, I kind of John,

2:05:01can you help can you help me with this?

2:05:03You know what I'm asking. So, we talked

2:05:05about it. So, uh, and then also staff

2:05:08also facility hours because some some of

2:05:10our staff works on Sundays and I I'm not

2:05:13sure if I if I want staff to work, um,

2:05:16some departments work on Sundays. Uh,

2:05:18obviously law enforcement is probably

2:05:20247, but there are um, adjustments that

2:05:22we could possibly make. Um, in some of

2:05:25our sanitation department as well, they

2:05:28work on Sundays. unsure if that's needed

2:05:30or not, but I wanted to give staff

2:05:33direction to look at how we can better

2:05:36serve our community, better serve our

2:05:38employees, and making sure that we are

2:05:40being comparable and also look at what

2:05:43other cities are doing so we can get up

2:05:45to date because we're talking about 2026

2:05:47and I want to make sure. So, city

2:05:49manager,

2:05:50toss that out there to use.

2:05:52>> Mayor and council, uh, right now we

2:05:55obviously have a 58 schedule that has

2:05:58normal business hours for the city of

2:06:00Chandler. Although I say that obviously

2:06:03we have many employees that work uh all

2:06:06seven days of the week, not

2:06:07individually, but the departments that

2:06:08are open seven days a week, 247,

2:06:11I believe, if I'm not mistaken, we

2:06:13already have 25 to 30% of our current

2:06:15employees that work the 410 schedule.

2:06:18So, we have some on 410s, we have some

2:06:20on 58s, and then that doesn't begin to

2:06:22account for fire, which I'm not going to

2:06:24try to explain their schedules. Okay,

2:06:26with that said, what I would say is I

2:06:29believe we have a very strong system as

2:06:31it currently sits. I have not heard from

2:06:34any individual departments whether we

2:06:36need the extended hours. It is something

2:06:38we can definitely take a look to see

2:06:39what the business trends are. Do we have

2:06:41people who are lined up in the morning?

2:06:42Do we have people who miss deadlines in

2:06:44the afternoon? and we can look at that

2:06:46on an individual department basis.

2:06:48Currently, we look at 410s on an

2:06:51individual department basis. Is there a

2:06:54need within your department for those

2:06:56addition for those types of hours and

2:06:57does your business allow for it? I was

2:07:00uh in Mesa when we went to 410s. Believe

2:07:03it or not, it was popular with about 60%

2:07:06of employees. 40% wanted 58. They wanted

2:07:09that ability for the expanded family

2:07:11time. Child care is always difficult to

2:07:13get as this council knows adding longer

2:07:15days makes child care very difficult. So

2:07:17there are many aspects of this problem

2:07:19that goes into it. While we are more

2:07:21than welcome to go from a department to

2:07:23department standpoint, um I do not think

2:07:26and I've never heard from this council

2:07:27the desire to be open only four days out

2:07:29of the week. And so we may we want to

2:07:32continue to maintain our fiveday

2:07:34schedule and we will look for ways to

2:07:36improve that. I'm happy if this is the

2:07:38will of the council to bring back a more

2:07:40broad plan to show you where we use it

2:07:41and where we do not. Or if you want us

2:07:43to consider any of those other options

2:07:45as part of this action, we're happy to

2:07:47do that. But I'm very confident right

2:07:49now that we're really balancing pretty

2:07:51well with the exception of looking at

2:07:52the departments to find out if there's

2:07:54anywhere where enhanced hours would be

2:07:55of benefit apart from like community

2:07:57services which already has expanded

2:07:59hours because they operate the

2:08:00facilities. I was at MS Mosquet Grove

2:08:02Pool this weekend is actually really

2:08:04cool. So I'm just to throw that out. So,

2:08:06mayor, so mayor, what I would like to do

2:08:10is um have I would like staff to look

2:08:13into it. Um see, you know, go survey the

2:08:17department heads, go see exactly where

2:08:20we are, what would be best suited, have

2:08:22that conversation, and then bring it

2:08:24back to council for a later date for a

2:08:26work session for us to look at how we're

2:08:29delivering services. Do we need expanded

2:08:31hours? Have we surveyed our community to

2:08:34see if this is going to work or not? I

2:08:35just really want staff to go back and

2:08:37look further into it and then bring it

2:08:39back later um for a work session um

2:08:42something later in the future. Maybe not

2:08:44in 2026, but definitely 2027. That's

2:08:48kind of where I'm at with it.

2:08:49>> Well, in the spirit of the prior thing,

2:08:52let me start with this end with council

2:08:54member Poston and we started there and

2:08:57share your comments. If there is enough

2:08:59of a will, then we will proceed.

2:09:03Otherwise, we we can always ask city

2:09:05manager to bring back the materials, but

2:09:07would how would you like to proceed with

2:09:10council member Harris's request?

2:09:13>> I would like not to go first. Um,

2:09:16actually, I I um

2:09:20I guess, you know, I'm never opposed at

2:09:22looking at serving our community better

2:09:24and our residents better, but I do feel

2:09:26fairly comfortable with the answer that

2:09:28our city manager gave us that they're

2:09:30doing that. So, um, I I don't know if if

2:09:34from what I'm hearing from him, if this

2:09:37needs the full weight of a work session

2:09:40and and a deeper study. So, if I'm

2:09:43misreading that, I'd be open to having

2:09:45further discussion with you about it a

2:09:46little bit, council member, but at at

2:09:48this point, I'm pretty comfortable with

2:09:50what our city manager said that we're

2:09:52doing that. And maybe there's as opposed

2:09:54to a big huge survey, maybe there's

2:09:56something modified he could look into

2:09:58that would meet your needs.

2:10:00ma'am. I respond just lovingly. Um

2:10:06um just want to make sure that we've

2:10:10given them no direction. Um and they

2:10:12haven't really did all that work. I just

2:10:14kind of want them to kind of look into

2:10:15it. I'm not saying what level of

2:10:17extensive work they should do, but also

2:10:20just go back out there and ask, you

2:10:22know, I trust the city manager. I trust

2:10:24this team, but I just want him to go out

2:10:25there and really ask and and do that

2:10:27type of work. I just want to see it. It

2:10:29don't got to be it don't have to be

2:10:30expanded where it's going to cost a lot

2:10:32of resources, but just go out there and

2:10:33ask. Um I trust his opinion, but also I

2:10:36want to verify with the with our

2:10:38departments, with our community as well.

2:10:40That's it.

2:10:40>> I'm going to continue and let's let

2:10:42everyone go without comment. Council

2:10:45member Ellis.

2:10:45>> Thank you, Mayor. when council member

2:10:47Harris discussed this with me uh city

2:10:50manager I the questions because I'm so

2:10:52used to these flexible hours being in

2:10:54the health care and knowing that you

2:10:56have to be the questions that I have

2:10:58asked is that what is the intent behind

2:11:00it and I think his heart behind it what

2:11:03he explained it to me was the fact that

2:11:05there are a lot of employees that are

2:11:07working for us and they have to take

2:11:08sick time to go to the doctor or if

2:11:10their kids are sick they don't have a

2:11:12day where they can actually schedule all

2:11:15their things that require requires that

2:11:16they go there during the day because

2:11:18things they work from 8:00 to 5:00 and

2:11:20there were five days and that's it. Um

2:11:23doctor's appointment all those things

2:11:25require them to leave work in order to

2:11:26go. So giving employers some kinds of

2:11:30the options to be able to choose those

2:11:32hours might help them to facilitate

2:11:35their daily lives and to planning when

2:11:37they would like to go see their doctors

2:11:39and when they would like to uh actually

2:11:41have other things done during the week

2:11:43that required it between 8 and 5. So I'm

2:11:46I agree with that um that I think people

2:11:48should have choices. I'm not saying we

2:11:51are working great and and we do have

2:11:53employees right now that are doing that.

2:11:55But if we look to see where else can we

2:11:57offer it, maybe some pe other people

2:11:58would like to do it, but their

2:11:59department don't offer it. But if we

2:12:01open it to a discussion and looking into

2:12:04it, that might put them in a position

2:12:06where they um their directors or even

2:12:09their supervisor might say, "Hey, you

2:12:11have the flexibility to do that. Can you

2:12:13do it?" As long as you're productive,

2:12:15you're doing your work, you're doing

2:12:16what you're supposed to do, then you can

2:12:18arrange your schedule that way. So,

2:12:20that's the only reason why I'm saying

2:12:21that. I would like to have more

2:12:22information about it. Thank you,

2:12:25>> Vice Mayor.

2:12:26>> Uh, thank you, mayor. Um,

2:12:30this is I I feel like we're very

2:12:33well-run city already. We know what our

2:12:34foundation is and um I'm not sure if

2:12:37there is an extensive need. Um, but I

2:12:40again appreciate you bringing this up

2:12:42for this uh discussion, but I I have to

2:12:44think of the um the lifestyle change,

2:12:48the culture change that might possibly

2:12:51impact, but I'm also am curious to see

2:12:54if there's some efficiencies in some

2:12:56departments if there is a department

2:12:57that is better at 410. I am a little bit

2:13:01curious just just to see what that looks

2:13:04like. But at the same time, I will say

2:13:05I'm very um satisfied in the current

2:13:08operations that we are running as a

2:13:10city. So, don't know if I made myself

2:13:13super clear there or not. [laughter]

2:13:15>> I'm curious. There we go.

2:13:17>> Council member,

2:13:19>> just to follow [clears throat] up,

2:13:20thanks for bringing this forward. Follow

2:13:22up. City manager, what is the work

2:13:24schedule now for most of the employees

2:13:28roughly?

2:13:29>> I don't know that I can speak to most of

2:13:31the employees right now because when I

2:13:33think of your biggest uh employers the

2:13:35police department I think is

2:13:37predominantly for sworn four tons but

2:13:39and they work all varied schedules

2:13:41obviously.

2:13:42>> Let me let me rephrase the question. Is

2:13:44it a eight hour workday plus an hour

2:13:46lunch? So you hear nine hours

2:13:49>> at a bare minimum

2:13:50>> right if [clears throat] you go

2:13:52>> fulltime employees.

2:13:52>> So I'm sorry.

2:13:53>> Yes. For full-time employees at a bare

2:13:55minimum. That is correct.

2:13:56>> So if I come in at a 10-hour work week

2:13:58now I'm actually here 11 hours.

2:14:01>> Uh generally that is correct. Yeah. So

2:14:04now you're looking at someone coming in

2:14:06at 7 o'clock potentially working to six.

2:14:09That's 11 hours. Now you're looking at

2:14:12someone coming in at 8 working to 7:00.

2:14:14I believe that's 11 hours. Um

2:14:18um again um I know when I was in the

2:14:22National Guard, we did a survey of 410s

2:14:25what our guards members and the safety

2:14:28went up dramatically. Issues with safety

2:14:31went up dramatically.

2:14:32uh particularly wrench turners, folks

2:14:34that handle heavy equipment, folks that

2:14:37drive that extra hour, that time frame

2:14:40because it's getting dark. It's early

2:14:42early in the morning, it's dark. We

2:14:44exponentially went up and it was we

2:14:46immediately went back to our original

2:14:49shift. Um so my concern would be with

2:14:53safety and looking at that area and

2:14:55you're looking at 11hour day whether

2:14:58it's you know behind a desk or turning a

2:15:01wrench that is a long day for anyone and

2:15:04I and I get that. Um I know there's

2:15:07other modifications every other Friday

2:15:09but nine hours things like that. So, um,

2:15:12we can look at these things, but I I do

2:15:15trust what you're doing and what the

2:15:19city manager is doing that we do have

2:15:21the coverage, uh, Monday to Friday

2:15:24because I hate to be the one person that

2:15:26needs a permit to get the job done on a

2:15:304:00 on a Friday afternoon and now, oh,

2:15:33sorry, the door's closed. Uh, and again,

2:15:36that's obviously hopefully we could do

2:15:38that. Um, but I don't want to shut down

2:15:41city hall. So, if there's a, you know,

2:15:44we can look at a lot of hours, but I

2:15:46also agree with your philosophy of let

2:15:49the departments have the discretion of

2:15:52how they want to work their schedule.

2:15:54Um, and some folks may be happy with um

2:15:57regular 9 to 9 to 6, 8 to 5, whatever

2:16:00that number is, but 11 hour long 11 hour

2:16:02day is a real long day. So, anyway,

2:16:06those are my thoughts. Um I I have no

2:16:08problem what you're doing today allowing

2:16:10the departments to be flexible instead

2:16:12of mandating anything from a council

2:16:15standpoint which I don't know how the

2:16:17departments are run. I really don't. So

2:16:19anyway,

2:16:21>> council member Hawkins.

2:16:23>> Thank you. Um I'm fine if you want to

2:16:25bring back some information just high

2:16:27level of what that kind of looks like

2:16:28today. Um I don't know that we need a

2:16:31separate study session or anything like

2:16:32that. If you could at least provide the

2:16:33information that council member Harris

2:16:35has talked about.

2:16:37And I'll close um conversation is it I

2:16:41I'd be curious too a lot of the requests

2:16:44how much are we able to meet those with

2:16:47uh expanding AI what are the the kind of

2:16:49requests is there a way that as we are

2:16:52looking at more and more providing

2:16:54services without necessarily talking to

2:16:57a person is there is there ways that how

2:17:00are we expanding services to meet our

2:17:02community I think is the heart of

2:17:05council member Harris's question and is

2:17:07there other ways that we can do that

2:17:10without I mean I'm I'm like vice mayor

2:17:14now I'm a little curious who does what

2:17:16but I do trust your your read on the

2:17:18city but I would have loved to explore

2:17:21uh are there other ways other than

2:17:23changing ours that we can uh meet the

2:17:26needs of our community so that's where I

2:17:30would last I I guess we're asking you to

2:17:31give us some more information with with

2:17:35not not a complete buy in on on saying

2:17:38that we want to jump into a study

2:17:42session or go deep in this without

2:17:43knowing more. I think that's what I

2:17:45heard. So,

2:17:47>> mayor, council, the the city manager's

2:17:49office and my departments would be happy

2:17:51to take this challenge up not only to

2:17:53look at what we currently do, but are

2:17:55there other opportunities to expand

2:17:58hours while not changing much of what we

2:18:00do? For example, you can have eight hour

2:18:02shifts that are nine hours. One starts

2:18:03at six, one starts at seven, one starts

2:18:05at 8, and you've just expanded the hours

2:18:06the city has available. And it may fit

2:18:08somebody's lifestyle better. It may fit

2:18:10that what they're looking for better.

2:18:12So, we will talk across our departments

2:18:14to make sure a what are we doing today?

2:18:16And b, are there innovations or new ways

2:18:18of looking things that could give people

2:18:20better life, home life quality, and

2:18:24provide more to our residents. We are

2:18:25happy to do that.

2:18:26>> Okay.

2:18:29>> Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor and

2:18:30Council, for considering this. and I'm

2:18:32looking forward to seeing what the city

2:18:34manager and his team puts together. So,

2:18:36thank you.

2:18:37>> All right, council. That concludes our

2:18:39meeting tonight. Thank you for the

2:18:41robust conversations and we'll see you

2:18:43on Thursday.